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Title: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BDB on December 30, 2005, 09:19:54 AM
Welcome to the new home of WIAC Baseball discussion!

WIAC Baseball site links:

WIAC Baseball Homepage- www.uwsa.edu/wiac/baseball/index.html

UW-LaCrosse - www.uwlax.edu/Athletics/mbaseball/

UW-Oshkosh - www.titans.uwosh.edu/baseball/index.html

UW-Platteville - www.uwplatt.edu/athletics/baseball/index.html

UW-Stevens Point - www.uwsp.edu/athletics/baseball/index.htm

UW-Stout - www.uwstout.edu/athletics/mbsbhome.html

UW-Superior - www.uwsuper.edu/athletics/mens/baseball/index.asp

UW-Whitewater - www.uww.edu/athletics/mbaseball/index.cfm


Hyperlinks to schedules are listed below:

UW-Lacrosse -- http://perth.uwlax.edu/Athletics/mbaseball/schedule/

UW-Oshkosh -- http://www.titans.uwosh.edu/Baseball/Schedule.html

UW-Platteville -- http://www.uwplatt.edu/athletics/baseball/2006schedule.html

UW-Stevens Point -- http://www.uwsp.edu/athletics/baseball/schedule.htm

UW-Stout -- http://www.uwstout.edu/athletics/baseball/mbsbsked06.html

UW-Superior -- http://www.uwsuper.edu/athletics/mens/baseball/schedule.asp

UW-Whitewater --
http://www.uww.edu/athletics/mbaseball/schedule.cfm
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BDB on December 30, 2005, 05:23:31 PM
2 WIAC teams in the preseason top 30 poll:

# 6 Stevens Point

#18 WhiteWater

The boys of summer are getting ready for their turn.  :)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: John Gleich on December 31, 2005, 04:19:20 PM
Nice!  A place to talk about baseball!
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on January 03, 2006, 12:56:17 PM
I'm afraid WW lost too many seniors to be very good this year, unless they have some really good pitching coming in. It's about time Oshkosh took the top spot back.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on January 03, 2006, 02:22:01 PM
Quote from: janesvilleflash on January 03, 2006, 12:56:17 PM
It's about time Oshkosh took the top spot back.

I don't think it will be this year.  UWO doesn't return a whole lot of talent.

UWO will need to have a great recruiting class if they expect to compete for a top spot, considering they lost their top three hitters (Jirschele, Yost, and Balcoa) and their top three pitchers as well (Huffman, Plucinski, and Hermus.) In all reality, UWO doesn't return anyone offensively who hit better than .297 (Schwebke.)  All in all, UWO will have a lot of UNPROVEN players on the field this spring, unless of course there are more transfers than just Stanke.

As for Point, they had a D3 All Region catcher transfer in by the name of Doug Coe.  He put up pretty good numbers for Lawrence in the Midwest conference, but I would guess he would see a little better pitching on a weekly basis in the WIAC compared to just Ripon from the Midwest.  He did play for the Wisconsin Woodchucks this summer however, so I'm sure he can swing the bat.

As far as D1 transfers, Point has one by the name of Travis Kempf, a pitcher from Illinois Chicago who went to HS at Kewaskum.  I really don't know much about him other than that he had five starts for UIC last season, and pitched for the Eau Claire Express of the Northwoods league this summer.

Point did have two transfers from Whitewater, P's Justin Bushong and Derek Pankow.  Bushong will not be eligible to play this season, due to conference transfer rules.  Pankow appeared in eight games for the Wrhawks last season and had an ERA of 13.03.

All in all I think that Point is the front runner this season for the simple reason that of the "Big 3" (Point, Whitwater, Oshkosh) they weren't hit as hard by graduation as the other two.  Depending on how the freshman develop, this conference could be as wide open as it has been in a LONG time.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on January 03, 2006, 03:27:19 PM
I would have to think that Stevens Point will be the SID's preseason favorite.  They returned a solid group and from cubs report it looks like they've picked up some good players to go with it.

Don't count WHITEWATER[/color] out of it.  We've also recruited well and should field a very competitive team though last year will be a tough act to follow.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BDB on January 10, 2006, 03:17:51 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on January 03, 2006, 03:27:19 PM
I would have to think that Stevens Point will be the SID's preseason favorite. 

BW,
Let's see about this years previous SID's preseason favorites:

Football - LaCrosse
Men's Basketball - Oshkosh
Women's Basketball - Stout

  Time will tell about the basketball season, but right now these picks aren't looking too good.

The SID's crystal ball may need a little Windex.  ;)



Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: titansrus on January 10, 2006, 03:37:26 PM
How much do you guys feel Cal Stanke is gonna help Oshkosh this year?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ScrappyMcTavish on January 10, 2006, 03:54:28 PM
If Stanke stays healthy he could be a major force for the Titans this spring. He could be the guy that pushes them back into the national spotlight.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on January 11, 2006, 11:49:15 AM
Exactly. All the recruits and transfers are great, but in the end, the team with the best pitching will win. Any other pitching transfers or recruits of note?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on January 11, 2006, 12:19:36 PM
I thought last season was a great example of great pitching beating great hitting.  Point was a stronger hitting team than Whitewater which explains how they were able to beat them 5 times.  BUT, when Whitewater absolutely needed to win a big one against Point, it was the superior Warhawk pitching staff who always came through.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on January 17, 2006, 04:16:28 PM
Appears UW Oshkosh is finally joining the rest of the conference and taking a trip down to a warm weather state (Florida) for their spring games, instead of their traditional trip to Tennessee, Arkansas, Minnesota or Kansas.  They have a number of tough games on their schedule, including Preseason #2 Cortland State, #22 Suffolk, #24 Wheaton (MA), and a DH with traditionally strong Carthage.  Here is a link to schedules for all of the WIAC schools:

http://perth.uwlax.edu/Athletics/mbaseball/schedule/
http://www.titans.uwosh.edu/Baseball/Schedule.html
http://www.uwplatt.edu/athletics/baseball/2006schedule.html
http://www.uwsp.edu/athletics/baseball/schedule.htm
http://www.uwstout.edu/athletics/baseball/mbsbsked06.html
http://www.uwsuper.edu/athletics/mens/baseball/schedule.asp
http://www.uww.edu/athletics/mbaseball/schedule.cfm

Whitewater is the only school without their Spring Trip opponents scheduled.  Can't wait for the season to get started!!!
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on January 17, 2006, 10:41:45 PM
WW is going to Arizona. Don't know who they are playing.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on January 18, 2006, 02:14:48 PM
I see that Platteville is playing their home games all over SW Wisconsin (and even in Iowa).  Are they remodeling their park or something?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Tezbaseball on January 22, 2006, 12:26:24 AM
Interesting site. You can see by where a MLB player went to school.

http://baseballreference.com/schools/
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on January 25, 2006, 10:18:15 AM
UWP is getting a new field, must not going to be ready in time for this season. Was looking at UWO roster from last season, and saw a couple pitchers I was familiar with from their highschool days. Definately not the caliber of players UWO has had in the past. Stanke is going to have to be dominant for them to win it this year, but having Bosio on the coaching staff has to be a big boost for recruiting, and helping with the pitching staff.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 02, 2006, 04:25:26 PM
I agree that Stanke needs to be a workhorse for the Titans. 

Why did he transfer back from Evansville? I know he only got 17 innings last year, but it is a waiting game when you are an underclassman.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Beater on February 07, 2006, 04:55:43 PM
Who do you think the 4th team to make the WIAC tournament is gonna be.....??
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 07, 2006, 06:35:08 PM
Quote from: Beater on February 07, 2006, 04:55:43 PM
Who do you think the 4th team to make the WIAC tournament is gonna be.....??

Oshkosh, Whitewater, Stevens Point and Stout...
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 08, 2006, 11:02:42 AM
Quote from: Beater on February 07, 2006, 04:55:43 PM
Who do you think the 4th team to make the WIAC tournament is gonna be.....??
I think the "Big 3" will be in again, (WHitewater, Stevens Point, and Oshkosh) but I think LaCrosse will make it instead of Stout after a one-year absence (Platteville in 2005.)  My reasoning, LaCrosse returns their top 2 pitchers from last season in Bemis and Zurbriggen, and that SHOULD be enough to give them a leg up on Stout, Platteville, and Superior.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: baseball on February 08, 2006, 11:57:38 AM
I wouldn't count la crosse to be out of contention, they are young but they have some really good talent on that team.  As well as a few guys who played in the northwoods league..
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: baseball on February 08, 2006, 11:58:47 AM
dont' coun't la crosse out yet
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Beater on February 08, 2006, 03:58:54 PM
If La Crosse can get some wins early and the young players buy into their coaches systerm they could be a dangerous team in the WIAC........ THey do return their top 2 pitchers and they have arguably the best position player in the conference in Andy  Podmolik..........
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 09, 2006, 11:47:41 AM
Can't wait for the Carthage/Oshkosh doubleheader over spring break, should be a great two games.  It will be very interesting to see what carthage does as far as pitching, seeing they play #2 Cortland state in a double header the day before.  Although I feel these trips are important to getting your season started off right, its hard to measure exactly where you are because you are starting some guys  on the mound who may rarely pitch the rest of the season. I would say if carthage could split with both of these teams, that would show that they are for real this year.  Its always cool to see Augie and Lechnir get together for some games. They are traditionally two of the top teams in the country, and I think they should play yearly.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 09, 2006, 01:26:30 PM
Quote from: REDMENFAN on February 09, 2006, 11:47:41 AM
Can't wait for the Carthage/Oshkosh doubleheader over spring break, should be a great two games.  It will be very interesting to see what carthage does as far as pitching, seeing they play #2 Cortland state in a double header the day before. 
Oshkosh will also be playing Cortland State later on in the trip, so both teams should get a pretty good idea where they stand with their pitching depth.  UWO also plays preseason #22 Suffolk, (before Carthage) and #24 Wheaton (MA) (after Carthage) on their trip.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Beater on February 09, 2006, 03:49:51 PM
Did Whitewater get any big name transfers in.......???
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 10, 2006, 01:12:46 PM
I really don't see WW in the top 4 this year, unless they have some big time transfers or recruits, especially pitching.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: JUSTINTYEM on February 10, 2006, 01:43:28 PM
Dont forgot good OL' Patty Bloom may be getting some NCAA Sanctions against him for some Recruiting Violations of Doug Coe and someone else.This came from a reliable source that stated Bloom self reported in hopes of easing the sanctions.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 10, 2006, 03:36:55 PM
Quote from: JUSTINTYEM on February 10, 2006, 01:43:28 PM
Dont forgot good OL' Patty Bloom may be getting some NCAA Sanctions against him for some Recruiting Violations of Doug Coe and someone else.This came from a reliable source that stated Bloom self reported in hopes of easing the sanctions.

I am sure many people do not know this, but Pat Bloom started his playing career at Carthage before moving to UWSP. He has done great things at Point in his short tenure.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 11, 2006, 06:24:18 PM
Check out this interesting list on the Carthage web page:

Do any of the teams listed surprise you?

http://www.carthage.edu/athletics/index.cfm?page=325
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 11, 2006, 06:29:32 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on February 11, 2006, 06:24:18 PM
Check out this interesting list on the Carthage web page:

Do any of the teams listed surprise you?

http://www.carthage.edu/athletics/index.cfm?page=325

Link into the NCAAs Winningest Programs on the left:
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 13, 2006, 11:23:36 AM
2006 Recruits/Transfers[/u]

LaCrosse
Matt Sampson-1B/DH-Onalaska (Viterbo)
Aaron Aspenson-P-Seneca
Travis Schmitt-C-Beaver Dam
Derrick Minnig-P-Beaver Dam
Tyler Peterson-2B-Burnsville, MN
Joey Casper-OF-Onalaska
Andy Erickson-P-Racine Case

Oshkosh
Cal Stanke-P-Menasha (Evansville)
Peter Berg-OF-Janesville
Brad Keeling-P-Lakeland
Kyle Kopitzke-C-DePere
Casey Mumper-P-Kewaunee
Jordan Michakiewicz-P-Menasha St. Mary's Central

Stevens Point
Doug Coe-C-Appleton North (Lawrence)
Travis Kempf-P-Kewaskum (Illinois-Chicago)
Ryan Hopkins-P-Libertyville, IL (Illinois-Chicago)
Jeff Zielke-P-Watertown

Stout
Nick Klaren-P-Roseville, MN
John Englund-P-Savage, MN
Tony Velasquez-2B-Bloomington, MN
Sean Wilson-C-Woodbury, MN
Mike Ryan-P-Rice Lake
Andy Lorenzen-SS-Colfax
Joe Chittum-P-Wausau

Superior
Chris Adams-P-Hermantown, MN
R.J. Keur-P-Barnum, MN
Ben Lind-P/IF-Isanti, MN
Dean Loew-U-Askov, MN
Bryan Olson-P/3B-Superior
Bill Ryan-P-North St. Paul, MN
Rob Rybicki-P/OF-Eau Claire North
Paul Schlangen-U-Rice, MN
Rich Visger-P-Minong

Whitewater
No Transfers/Recruits Listed

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 14, 2006, 10:55:57 AM
WW has their preseason sched/teams listed now. http://www.uww.edu/athletics/mbaseball/schedule.cfm
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bataviapete on February 14, 2006, 11:25:10 AM
UWW Florida trip seems a little disapointing.  They only play 1 preseason ranked team in #16 Southern Maine.  Oshkosh plays Cortland #2, Suffolk #22, Wheaton Mass #25 as well as Carthage.  Carthage is also playing Cortland. 

When will UWW roster be posted, thay still have last years up?  When my son was at UWW's winter camp I thought I heard a mention of a transfer from SIU. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 15, 2006, 06:05:16 PM
Most teams have very little control of there spring trip schedule. They just announce that they are coming and and organizer sets up games with teams that will also be there. I know one year a team was matched up in FL with a team from their own conference... played them twice down south and four more times in conference, could have been more had the team qualified for the post-season tourney or NCAAs.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 16, 2006, 06:22:04 PM
I emailed the WW coach about posting the roster. He said it would be another 2-3 weeks before he made out his "traveling" roster. He said they had 4 srs. 4 jrs. and 30 freshemn and sophs. Guess we have to wait a while longer.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 20, 2006, 10:41:41 AM
My email must have done some good. The new roster is out. 20 freshemn. Anyone klnow anything about them?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 20, 2006, 01:55:10 PM
I have never seen him play, but I always read about C/1B Mike Kuhn last year.  He had some ridiculous  numbers last year for Burlington Catholic Central, I'm pretty sure he hit over .500.  I saw Mcormick from Kenosha Tremper pitch once for the Kenosha Kings this summer, he throws fairly hard and could probably compete for a middle reliver type role.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: sportsguru90 on February 23, 2006, 09:00:04 AM
I have read the post on Stevens Point's self-report to the NCAA for rule breaking,what else is new in the WIAC.
My son played in the WIAC and the top schools in the WIAC all stretch the rules. 
So please do not just call up Pat Bloom from Stevens Point.
And yes he has kept the winning tradition going at Stevens Point.
I think it should be a good race again in the WIAC but don't forget about Platteville, they have improved
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 23, 2006, 12:17:38 PM
What was done at Stevens point to break the rules, and are is the NCAA punishing the program at all for what was done?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 23, 2006, 12:40:22 PM
There was some problem with recruiting Coe from Lawrence. Haven't heard anything about any penalties yet.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 23, 2006, 03:54:00 PM
All programs stretch the rules... it is a matter of fact. Those that do not are generally doing one of two things... lying about it or losing games. I am not saying it is right to do it, but it is necessary in order to compete.

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 23, 2006, 10:53:50 PM
Care to elaborate on the rule stretching being done?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 24, 2006, 10:40:38 AM
I'm a little curious what you mean too. It is D-3 so there can't be all the under the table money type stuff going on. I'm guessing you mean maybe practicing more than is allowed, or somehow getting a player eligible who shouldn't be, or something along those lines. I wish Carthage could have"bent the rules" to get that guy eligible this year, hopefully they can overcome that loss.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 24, 2006, 11:19:15 AM
You would be amazed at the "jobs" players are given... even at the small schools. I have heard of a few cases where players were paid ridiculous amounts of money to shovel small sidewalks for alumni... or to cut the lawn of an alum.

And when it comes to recruiting, many coaches "bend" the rules and use friends of the recruit who are already in the program to lure them away from their current program.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 24, 2006, 01:41:36 PM
"I have heard of" doesn't quite get the job done when you make observations like you have. Either you know or you don't. Don't get me wrong, I'm not calling you a liar, just that when you make accusations like that, you need to be able to back them up.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 24, 2006, 03:39:45 PM
I know for a fact that it happened at a junior college I coached at.... and I have spoken with alums at other schools that admit to "overpaying" a student-athlete to do a simple job.

Forgive me if I do not give names.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pastprime on February 24, 2006, 08:55:00 PM
Well, I know for a FACT it happens.  I have first hand knowledge of just one example but I also do not want to divulge what or how this particular way is done.  I know the people personally who where able to take advantage of this type of financial gain.  I think this is wrong but am in a catch 22 and don't want to say anything.  I don't know if ALL teams in ALL sports do this kind of thing.  But I'm not ignorant to the fact that there are SOME schools and SOME sports that do find ways to give some players some sort of extra help financially. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 27, 2006, 12:57:17 PM
Just curious, would it be illegal for me to hire a D3 athlete to work in my yard and pay him or her $20 an hour?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 27, 2006, 01:38:28 PM
I have no idea if it would be illegal, but I'm sure it happens a lot. These players need some type of spending money in college. Not everyone can just ask Mom and Dad for money whenever they need it. I know D-1 athletes aren't supposed to have jobs, I'm not sure about D-3. Also, does anyone know if D-1 guys aren't supposed to have jobs only during the season of the sport they play, or year round?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: JUSTINTYEM on February 27, 2006, 03:03:35 PM
Last i knew(10 years ago) in D-1 it all depended on your scolly level ie:Fully,parial, and so on.I know for a "FACT" full scolly athletes couldnt work.But they did recieve money(coupons) for meals to be used on campus.I knew some partial scolly athletes that had part-tie jobs.But the rules may have changed since then.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 28, 2006, 06:39:55 AM
D3 athletes can and most do have jobs. That's why I can't see someone paying them to do odd jobs could be against any rules. What difference if they work at McDonalds, or doing yard work for someone? I assume you guys are talking about something much different that that? Shoveling someones sidewalk while they are in Florida for the winter and getting paid $50 a week wouldn't amount to a violation in my opinion.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 28, 2006, 08:54:27 AM
I agree. If someone wants to pay an athelte to do work, there shouldn't be a problem with that. Plus, if it  wasn't supposed to be allowed, I don't think the NCAA monitors too closely what D-3 athletes do outside of sports! ;)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on February 28, 2006, 12:05:35 PM
Quote from: janesvilleflash on February 27, 2006, 12:57:17 PM
Just curious, would it be illegal for me to hire a D3 athlete to work in my yard and pay him or her $20 an hour?
It could be.  If the NCAA or the school came investigating you would have to show why $20/hour was not an excessive amount.  (It's the going rate in the neighborhood, I pay other laborers the same rate, my yard is really big, etc.).
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: POUNDTHEROCK on March 05, 2006, 02:01:34 AM
First f all division theree athletes can have jobs for doing anything. It could be walking the big boosters dog, or just getting the little old lady ion the wheelchair her mail everyday because she can't.
As fas as illegal recruiting in terms of coaches telling joe from Greenfield to talk to bobby from greenfield to come to UW Whitewater or where ever nothing is illegal about that.
This is how most division three and all divisions for that matter recruit. They use people in the program from school X to recruit good players to their school from school X.
So nothing is illegal about that. I do know that at Division one though you can not have alumni former players come in and talk to potential student athletes. USC
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: POUNDTHEROCK on March 05, 2006, 02:05:19 AM
USC did this and they then realized that this was a violation of NCAA rules,and reported themselves or something to that anture.
As far as rules on recruiting and stuff at division three. Since no one really commits or anything and their are no letters of intent to sign. I do not believe there are a lot of rules to follow.
I am not an expert so I maybe wrong on that. However havving bobby talk to Joe from Podunk high where bobby went is not illegal,and niether is allowing student athletes to get paid,as long as they do the work, but thats how it is for everyone.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 05, 2006, 11:46:46 AM
Quote from: POUNDTHEROCK on March 05, 2006, 02:01:34 AM
First f all division theree athletes can have jobs for doing anything. It could be walking the big boosters dog, or just getting the little old lady ion the wheelchair her mail everyday because she can't.
As fas as illegal recruiting in terms of coaches telling joe from Greenfield to talk to bobby from greenfield to come to UW Whitewater or where ever nothing is illegal about that.
This is how most division three and all divisions for that matter recruit. They use people in the program from school X to recruit good players to their school from school X.
So nothing is illegal about that. I do know that at Division one though you can not have alumni former players come in and talk to potential student athletes. USC

Geez... mix in a spellcheck once in a while. You may have had good points, but it was so poorly constructed that I doubt anyone could choke their way through it. I am not saying that as an insult, but I am trying to make sure your point gets heard. Also, do not be afraid of the capital letters. They are your friend.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: POUNDTHEROCK on March 05, 2006, 05:31:32 PM
Thanks Big Poppa.
Maybe I shouldn't drink while I am typing.
My point is that it's not illegal to have kids recruits kids from their high schools,and it is not illegal for kids to work for people as long as it's a legit job at the d3 level.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 06, 2006, 01:01:33 AM
Quote from: POUNDTHEROCK on March 05, 2006, 05:31:32 PM
Thanks Big Poppa.
Maybe I shouldn't drink while I am typing.
My point is that it's not illegal to have kids recruits kids from their high schools,and it is not illegal for kids to work for people as long as it's a legit job at the d3 level.

I agree that players are the best recruiters for a program. Who are recruits going to trust more than their own friends?!!

In regards to drinking while typing... I think it should be a pre-requisite to esure the truth comes out...

"en vino veritas."
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on March 06, 2006, 08:56:45 AM
nunc est bibendum
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 1_For_27 on March 09, 2006, 01:38:19 PM
I see O'factor has made it over to the baseball board.  give it time he will make u crazy
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 09, 2006, 01:41:54 PM
Quote from: janesvilleflash on March 06, 2006, 08:56:45 AM
nunc est bibendum

"It appears that Mr. Ringo is an educated man like myself... now I really hate him."

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CaptainKurt on March 10, 2006, 08:22:30 AM
O'Reilly!!  You can't hide from us!!



O'Reilly!! Yuo ca'nt hdie frum uss!!!!
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: POUNDTHEROCK on March 13, 2006, 11:10:57 AM
Kart
Your right I can't hide from you, but I am staying off the football board for a while.
All I want to know is what is Doug Henry former UW Whitewater pitching coach up to. He was fired after the Brawl at Oshkosh a couple years ago. I'll never forget that as the coach from oshkosh shouted out"GO GET HIM" after their player got accidently hit in the head, and the brawl was on.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 13, 2006, 02:35:16 PM
Quote from: POUNDTHEROCK on March 13, 2006, 11:10:57 AM
I'll never forget that as the coach from oshkosh shouted out"GO GET HIM" after their player got accidently hit in the head, and the brawl was on.
I see it doesn't matter the sport, football, baseball, etc.. you aren't one for stating the facts.  You should really get a clue waht is going on before you spout of... ::)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: POUNDTHEROCK on March 13, 2006, 02:46:13 PM
I believe what I stated are he facts as I was there that day, and was told exactly what the oshkosh coach said as there were UWW standing near the oshkosh dugout. :)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 13, 2006, 03:54:27 PM
Quote from: POUNDTHEROCK on March 13, 2006, 11:10:57 AM
Kart
Your right I can't hide from you, but I am staying off the football board for a while.
All I want to know is what is Doug Henry former UW Whitewater pitching coach up to. He was fired after the Brawl at Oshkosh a couple years ago. I'll never forget that as the coach from oshkosh shouted out"GO GET HIM" after their player got accidently hit in the head, and the brawl was on.


Hey rock... a word of advice is to not state things about certain people that could be binding in a court of law. "GO GET HIM" could have legal ramifications if that coach were to press charges of libel against you, but I can conclude from your eloquent writings that you must be intelligent enough to understand this(I hoppe you caught my sarcasm).
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: POUNDTHEROCK on March 13, 2006, 03:57:37 PM
Big Poppas,
I do totally underestand what you are saying. I am just repeating what was told to me that the Oshkosh coach said. This is second hand information. Iwas not near the oshkosh dugout.
Whether he said it or not is some what irrelevant,as the warhawks won most of if not all of the games that year against the titans. I think the oshkosh whitewater baseball rivalry is the biggest rivalry in the WIAC.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 13, 2006, 03:58:22 PM
Quote from: POUNDTHEROCK on March 13, 2006, 02:46:13 PM
I believe what I stated are he facts as I was there that day, and was told exactly what the oshkosh coach said as there were UWW standing near the oshkosh dugout. :)

Just because you were there does not mean that you heard what was said. The simple fact that you were "told" what the coach allegedly said should allow us to rule you out as a credible witness to the incident.
Also, if this is the type of writing students are learning at Whitewater I fear for the future of the University. Mix in a spell check once in a while.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 13, 2006, 04:13:14 PM
Would it matter if someone was near the dugout??  Last time I checked UWO was up to bat when Shere got hit, so wouldn't the coach be in the 3rd Base coaches box and not the dugout??  Either the coach yelled (and there would be more people hear to support your statemant) or your informant has some great hearing to be able to hear what was said probably roughly 40-50 feet away? 

Either way it is something that happened almost two years ago, so why bring it back up??
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 13, 2006, 04:18:50 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 13, 2006, 04:13:14 PM
Would it matter if someone was near the dugout??  Last time I checked UWO was up to bat when Shere got hit, so wouldn't the coach be in the 3rd Base coaches box??  Either the coach yelled or your informant has some great hearing to be able to hear what was said probably roughly 40-50 feet away? 

Either way it is something that happened almost two years ago, so why bring it back up??

Well said... some people just fixate on things they cannot change... or really want to be a part of. It's basic psychology in its purest form.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 13, 2006, 04:25:26 PM
Interesting conversation in here! ;) Any word on how Oshkosh is doing? Carthage is 3-1, and plays a DH against the titans Wednesday. This game is a great rivalry, but don't get mixed up, Augie and Lechnir get along just fine. Steve Coughlin (Sophmore transfer from Oshkosh) starts in right field and has batted clean up and in the 5 hole for the Redmen this year. Not bad for someone Oshkosh turned into a pitcher last year and wouldn't let him swing a bat. Should be a great two games. Carthage has had the bragging rights the last two years, Oshkosh has a chance to earn some. Olson and Evosovich (Carthage's 1 and 2 starters) both threw complete games Saturday, so I don't know if Carthage will throw them on 3 days rest or not. Finally, any significant injuries for the Titans? Chris Sadjak is the only major one for the Redmen. He is out another 2-3 weeks, and should be one of the Redmen's top run producers.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 13, 2006, 04:30:47 PM
I would bet that Augie turns his #1 and #2 loose on Wednesday against Oshkosh. It should be a good matchup of two programs with solid pitching. I expect a low scoring set of games.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 13, 2006, 04:32:33 PM
UWO is 2-2.  They dropped their first two games (Wittenberg and #22 Suffolk) in extra innings (12 and 10 innings repectively.)  Stanke (UWO's #1 and transfer from D1 Evansville) threw against Suffolk giving up six runs in 8 innings of work.  Gowey (UWO's #2) took the loss giving up 3 runs in the 10th.

UWO responded by sweeping Ohio Wesleyan yesterday, and are off until their DH with Carthage on Wednesday.  

These ARE NOT your fathers Titans.  As of now, they are starting 6 freshman.  The staff IS NOT very deep, typically a strength for UWO.  My guess is if Carthage throws their #1 and #2 UWO would be happy with a split.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 13, 2006, 04:35:58 PM
Stanke is the real deal though. I watch him throw n=many time in high school and he just gets it done. I think that will be a great match-up for Carthage. They usually handle the hard-throwers quite well.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 13, 2006, 05:40:21 PM
I think both teamswould be satisfied with a split, just as long as they don't get swept by an in-state rival! I agree that chances are it will be two low scoring games. With that said, the teams will be all jacked up and might just go off and hit the snot out of the ball. I wasn't aware that oshkosh is starting 6 freshman! I assume they must be pretty darn good ball players to be starting there as freshman. If they are successful this year, look out the next 3 years after they get a year of college baseball experience under their belts.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 13, 2006, 06:22:32 PM
Quote from: REDMENFAN on March 13, 2006, 05:40:21 PM
I wasn't aware that oshkosh is starting 6 freshman! I assume they must be pretty darn good ball players to be starting there as freshman.
I think part of it has to do with the fact that the upperclassmen that played last year didn't come back, and the ones that did, didn't produce enough last year (not one starter returning had a BA over .297) to give the coaching staff a whole lot of faith in them.  The majority ot the offensive production came from Jirschele, Yost, Perdomo and Balcoa, three seniors and a junior who didn't return.  (This is just MY observation.) 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 14, 2006, 09:23:34 PM
Carthage beats #2 Cortland State 4-2 on Tuesday setting up a great showdown with UW-Oshkosh on Wednesday afternoon.

Both teams seem to be seeking identity and this could be the day that pushes each of them in the direction they are headed.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 15, 2006, 04:37:45 PM
UW-Oshkosh down to Carthage 2-0 in the 3rd inning...
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 15, 2006, 06:44:05 PM
Final of game 1: Carthage- 10, Oshkosh- 1
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 16, 2006, 08:42:49 AM
Oshkosh took the night cap 5-4 in ten innings. Carthage blew a 4-1 lead in the 7th inning (it was a 7 inning game.) As expected, a great DH between two good teams
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 1_For_27 on March 23, 2006, 02:42:39 PM
Who are the top pitchers in the league this year?

With 2 mlb'ers leavin WW who will pick up that slack?

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on March 24, 2006, 09:05:50 AM
Same thing as last year. their 2 top pitchers Endl and Callahan went pro, and Reinhard and Tommy stepped up. Can they do it again?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 24, 2006, 11:41:57 AM
Finally the WARHAWKS[/color] take to the diamond and officially kick off the 2006 campaign.  They did it the right way too with a pair of wins 4-1, 13-2 over Augsburg.  In the first game Mike Jacobson went five innings as the HAWKS[/color] scored three runs in the bottom of the fifth for the 4-1 victory.  Eddie Adamson and Matt Delong collected two hits apiece.  In game two Andy Keller went five innings for the win and combined with Jay Grutzmacher to four hit Augusburg.  Greg Harder and Jason Rutz led the 14 hit  WARHAWK[/color] attack with three hits apiece. 

The WARHAWKS[/color] will play a pair of  nine inning games today. The first  vs North Central followed by John Hopkins.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 24, 2006, 12:31:45 PM
Do you know if Kuhn (Freshman from Burlington Catholic Central) has a chance to see any playing time. I know he was one of the top D-3 recruits around after putting up amazing numbers his senior year in high school.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 24, 2006, 02:20:33 PM
Quote from: janesvilleflash on March 24, 2006, 09:05:50 AM
Same thing as last year. their 2 top pitchers Endl and Callahan went pro, and Reinhard and Tommy stepped up. Can they do it again?
Their is a big difference however....  Reinhard was 8-1 with a 3.05 ERA in 2004, while Tomasiewicz was 10-0 as a Freshman in 2003 and 4-4 in 2004.  Both those guys had proven they could win.  There isn't anyone like that for this years Warhawks.  The Warhawks don't return a pitcher who had more than 4 decisions last year (Riek 2-2) and as we all saw last year, PITCHING wins Championships.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 24, 2006, 02:23:17 PM
Quote from: REDMENFAN on March 24, 2006, 12:31:45 PM
Do you know if Kuhn (Freshman from Burlington Catholic Central) has a chance to see any playing time. I know he was one of the top D-3 recruits around after putting up amazing numbers his senior year in high school.
It appears he would be #3 on the depth chart at Catcher, as Whitewater has played two other catchers in their first 2 games (Gorman and Deck.)  I suppose we will have to wait how everything plays out, to see if he will get any time at 1B.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 27, 2006, 11:42:17 AM
WARHAWKS[/color] stumble some and go 1-2 over the weekend losing to North Central 11-8 and John Hopkins 9-5 on Friday and beating Southern Maine 8-6 on Saturday.  Kuhn has not played in any of the games thus far.

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 27, 2006, 01:48:18 PM
Thanks for the info. on Kuhn. Wow, a kid who can swing the bat like he can, he must have some studs in front of him
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 29, 2006, 03:05:35 PM
Thought some WIAC fans might be interested in this. I was watching a brewers spring training game monday night and Vinny Rottino flied out deep to end the game. Rottino is a UW-Lacrosse grad, and grew up in Racine, WI. He is currently hitting .455 during spring training games, and is playing in triple A this year. The announcers said this undrafted kid will definately be a major leaguer in the near future!! Vinny Works out at Carthage College all winter long and hits live against their pitchers as well as helps out with Christmas baseball camps. He is one of the nicest guys I've met and nobody works harder. He was in the weight room daily at 7 a.m. with Scott Roehl (Double A pitcher in the cleveland system from Kenosha) every day.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 29, 2006, 03:35:40 PM
badgerwarhawk-
Do you happen to know who is doing the stats out in Arizona for the baseball team?  I would hope it isn't the SID.  If you talk to the SID have him look over a couple of the games, as I believe there are a few games that are incorrect.  

Greg Riek shouldn't have picked up the loss yesterday, as the starter gave up 6 runs.  

Also, in the 9th inning against Southern Maine, three of the four runs Riek gave up should have been Earned runs instead of Unearned as you can't assume a double play on the ground ball that Stewart made an error on.  

I haven't looked at all the games that closely, but those two were pretty obvious to even the average fan.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 29, 2006, 04:27:39 PM
Who are you?  Greg Riek's daddy?   ;D

Just kidding.  The stats I see on the UWW web site don't reflect the errors you are talking about, so it looks like the problems are being corrected.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 29, 2006, 05:05:31 PM
Sorry, I haven't any idea who's keeping stats in Arizona.   I doubt it's the SID.  Personally the only stat I worry about is wins and losses and that ain't going that well right now. 

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 30, 2006, 09:44:40 AM
Quote from: Just Bill on March 29, 2006, 04:27:39 PM
Just kidding.  The stats I see on the UWW web site don't reflect the errors you are talking about, so it looks like the problems are being corrected.
Are you sure....  He is still labeled the losing pitcher in the Gustavus Adolphus boxscore, and the runs against Southern Maine are still listed as unearned.   The season stats indicate the same thing.

http://www.uww.edu/athletics/mbaseball/gusadg1.htm
http://www.uww.edu/athletics/mbaseball/smg1.htm
http://www.uww.edu/athletics/mbaseball/teamcume.htm
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 30, 2006, 10:39:28 AM
Ah, I misread your post.  Yes, I see the discrepencies you are talking about.

In the Southern Maine game however, I count only two earned runs for Riek.

In the 8th, he's responsible for Vardaro's run. (ER: Vardaro)

In the 9th, we assume the Vadaro is out without the error by 3B, and it remains 2nd and 3rd with 2 outs (benefit of the doubt always goes to the pitcher).  Burleson's single then would have scored Lemieux from third anyway, so that's earned.  Then, Borque's fly to CF should have been the third out of the inning, so all the other runs wold be unearned. (ER: Lemieux, UE: Pike, D'Andrea, Vardaro)

It's also kind of odd to credit two RBI's to Vardaro on the play with the error by the third baseman.  That assumes that BOTH runners would have scored without benefit of the error.  That seems unlikely.

If you like baseball scorekeeping stuff, check out http://www.baseballscorecard.com  There's a message board there, and they do these kinds of things all the time.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 30, 2006, 10:53:06 AM
I was just on that site JB.  Excellent, if baseball scoring is what you're interested in.

Whoever it was that was asking about Mike Kuhn, he saw the field for the first time yesterday as a back up catcher and walked his only time at bat.   WARHAWKS[/color] creep over .500 at 5-4 with a 12-5 win over Williams College.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 30, 2006, 12:17:50 PM
Thanks for the info on Kuhn. Do you know what year the guy starting ahead of him is?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 30, 2006, 12:45:23 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on March 30, 2006, 10:39:28 AM
In the Southern Maine game however, I count only two earned runs for Riek.

In the 8th, he's responsible for Vardaro's run. (ER: Vardaro)

In the 9th, we assume the Vadaro is out without the error by 3B, and it remains 2nd and 3rd with 2 outs (benefit of the doubt always goes to the pitcher).  Burleson's single then would have scored Lemieux from third anyway, so that's earned.  Then, Borque's fly to CF should have been the third out of the inning, so all the other runs wold be unearned. (ER: Lemieux, UE: Pike, D'Andrea, Vardaro)

It's also kind of odd to credit two RBI's to Vardaro on the play with the error by the third baseman.  That assumes that BOTH runners would have scored without benefit of the error.  That seems unlikely.
JB-
8th inning-Correct, 1 Earned run for Riek
9th Inning-Unsure

Here is how I see it.  Please correct me if I have something wrong.

-Bases Loaded One Out (Single, Double, HBP)
-Next Batter-E5-Scorer assumes you get the out at first, so now 2nd and 3rd, run scored-(Earned) Two Outs
Next Batter-Single-Run Scores (Earned) 1st and 3rd Two Outs
Next Batter-F8-Three Outs

That would be 2 Earned in the 9th, for 3 ER total in his appearance correct??
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 30, 2006, 12:50:02 PM
Quote from: REDMENFAN on March 30, 2006, 12:17:50 PM
Thanks for the info on Kuhn. Do you know what year the guy starting ahead of him is?
Bill Gorman is a Junior, however two other Catchers (Matt Millar and Jon Deck) have been seeing significant playing time (2 Starts each) ahead of Kuhn.  Millar is a Sophomore and Deck is a Junior.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 30, 2006, 01:11:28 PM
Thanks. Either Kuhn played in a pretty poor conference in high school, or whitewater just has some amazing catchers. Like I said, I've never seen him play, but he was always in the Kenosha paper, hit over .500, and was supposed to be one of the top hitters in the state. Any word on how other teams from the WIAC are doing? I saw Whitewater is 5-4, how about some other records?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 30, 2006, 02:17:39 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 30, 2006, 12:45:23 PM

JB-
8th inning-Correct, 1 Earned run for Riek
9th Inning-Unsure

Here is how I see it.  Please correct me if I have something wrong.

-Bases Loaded One Out (Single, Double, HBP)
-Next Batter-E5-Scorer assumes you get the out at first, so now 2nd and 3rd, run scored-(Earned) Two Outs
Next Batter-Single-Run Scores (Earned) 1st and 3rd Two Outs
Next Batter-F8-Three Outs

That would be 2 Earned in the 9th, for 3 ER total in his appearance correct??
I overlooked the HBP.  I'm getting sloppy in my old age.

On the E5 play you would have to see it to know for sure.  My orginal assumption was the fielder would have taken the lead runner out at home plate, thus leaving the bases loaded.  If the ball was a slow roller and the only possible play was at first, then I might score it like you did.  And considering that they were holding a lead in the ninth, it might be reasonable to assume the fielder would take the "sure" out at first.

This is one of those where you have to see it to know for sure.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 03, 2006, 09:57:44 PM
Came across an intersting stat today when going through the Conference stats for some of the WIAC teams. 

Through 14 games, UW Oshkosh batters have taken 39 HBP's this season compared to their pitchers giving up 37 BB's.

Just thought it was an interesting stat you probably won't see too often so I thought I would share it. :-\
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 04, 2006, 10:01:21 AM
Good to see that UW-Superior is right in mid-season form.   ;)  66-4 total score over four games.  Yikes.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 04, 2006, 10:43:08 AM
I'll try to do a weekly update through the season just to keep conversation flowing.  I'll focus on the WIAC games, because I don't want to get carried away with keeping up with everything.

UW-Stout 10, UW-La Crosse 6
UW-La Crosse 16, UW-Stout 0 (7 innings)
UW-Stout 15, UW-La Crosse 10
UW-Stout 6, UW-La Crosse 2

UW-Oshkosh 22, UW-Superior 0 (7 innings)
UW-Oshkosh 12, UW-Superior 2 (7 innings)
UW-Oshkosh 10, UW-Superior 1
UW-Oshkosh 22, UW-Superior 1 (7 innings)

UW-Stevens Point 7, UW-Platteville 2
UW-Stevens Point 10, UW-Platteville 0 (7 innings)
UW-Stevens Point 15, UW-Platteville 5 (8 innings)
Game 4 - Cancelled (Rain)

Standings
OSH  4-0
SP  3-0
ST  3-1
WW  0-0
LC  1-3
PLT  0-3
SUP  0-4
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 04, 2006, 11:45:07 AM
Can Whitewater get back on track?? Are they suffering a National Title hangover? What's the deal?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on April 04, 2006, 12:32:56 PM
We'll see tomorrow. Suposed to be a nice day too.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 04, 2006, 12:44:30 PM
I wouldn't call it National Title hangover.  I think it's safe to say that they're simply not the same team, and don't have the same talent.  I think it's going to be mid-season before you see them really find their identity.

Compare 2006 Whitewater Baseball to the 2005-06 Stevens Point Men's Basketball team.  Defending national champs, but lost the main players.  Struggled early, expecially in non-conference games while they were trying to get it together.  But, by mid-season, were playing very well, finished a strong third place and became a dangerous postseason team.  I could see Warhawk baseball following the same trend this year.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 04, 2006, 01:39:18 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on April 04, 2006, 10:43:08 AM
UW-Oshkosh 22, UW-Superior 0 (7 innings)
UW-Oshkosh 12, UW-Superior 2 (7 innings)
UW-Oshkosh 10, UW-Superior 1
Not being knit-picky, but you forget the 22-1 finale on Monday. ;)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 04, 2006, 01:41:31 PM
I know oshkosh is a solid ball club, but those 4 scores are just sick. Talk about helping out team ERA, batting average, runs scored per game... etc. I'm assuming Superior is the worst team in the conference, BY FAR
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 04, 2006, 01:52:55 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on April 04, 2006, 12:44:30 PM
I could see Warhawk baseball following the same trend this year.
I have a feeling that might not happen for one simple reason...... PITCHING.  This is probably the weakest staff Whitewater has had in the last 5 years.  At the same time, the WIAC overall pitching is pretty weak this year.  You don't really see many guys out there who are just going to stuff it down your throat like you have seen in the last 10 years.  Gone are the days of Chris Simonson, Craig Glysch, Brady Endl, Andy Kimball, Andy Elskamp, etc.. (just to name a few.)  The closest thing you have this year is Jordan Zimmerman, Matt Zurbriggen and possibly Cal Stanke.  I have a feeling there won't be too many 3-2 or 4-3 games no matter what teams are playing.  

Maybe I am wrong, but this sure looks to be a high-scoring confernece season, which doesn't bode well for much WIAC post-season success this year.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 04, 2006, 01:56:23 PM
Quote from: REDMENFAN on April 04, 2006, 01:41:31 PM
I know oshkosh is a solid ball club, but those 4 scores are just sick. Talk about helping out team ERA, batting average, runs scored per game... etc. I'm assuming Superior is the worst team in the conference, BY FAR
Probably, but they did split a DH with CCIW's North Central, winning 2-1 and losing 5-4.  Where would you put North Central in terms of the CCIW?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 04, 2006, 02:16:13 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 04, 2006, 01:39:18 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on April 04, 2006, 10:43:08 AM
UW-Oshkosh 22, UW-Superior 0 (7 innings)
UW-Oshkosh 12, UW-Superior 2 (7 innings)
UW-Oshkosh 10, UW-Superior 1
Not being knit-picky, but you forget the 22-1 finale on Monday. ;)
Thanks for the catch.  I added it.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 04, 2006, 04:32:06 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 04, 2006, 01:56:23 PM
Quote from: REDMENFAN on April 04, 2006, 01:41:31 PM
I know oshkosh is a solid ball club, but those 4 scores are just sick. Talk about helping out team ERA, batting average, runs scored per game... etc. I'm assuming Superior is the worst team in the conference, BY FAR
Probably, but they did split a DH with CCIW's North Central, winning 2-1 and losing 5-4.  Where would you put North Central in terms of the CCIW?

North Central will finish in the middle to bottom of the CCIW this year...only an outside shot at the conference tourney. It is always tough to compare teams based on common opponents though.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 04, 2006, 05:53:05 PM
NC is currently 4-11 and 0-3 in conference after getting swept by carthage. I would guess they'll finish this year in  6th or 7th out of the 8 teams. North Park has always been in last and they swept their first 3 game series in conference in 8 years over millikin, so North Central should finish ahead of Millikin and possibly North Park
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 04, 2006, 10:39:11 PM
The league has gone 30-43 in nonconfernce play so far. 

I'm not sure anyone is all that good this year. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 05, 2006, 09:52:55 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 04, 2006, 10:39:11 PM
The league has gone 30-43 in nonconfernce play so far. 

I'm not sure anyone is all that good this year. 
I assume that means you are agreeing with what I said earlier, that the WIAC will struggle in post-season play this season.........
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 05, 2006, 12:20:07 PM
I would never count a WIAC team out in the postseason. The conference season certainly toughens the top few teams up for the postseason.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 05, 2006, 09:37:42 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 05, 2006, 09:52:55 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 04, 2006, 10:39:11 PM
The league has gone 30-43 in nonconfernce play so far. 

I'm not sure anyone is all that good this year. 
I assume that means you are agreeing with what I said earlier, that the WIAC will struggle in post-season play this season.........



I would say that if the post season were played now, yes, they'd struggle. Fortunately it's not. 

WARHAWKS[/color] split with Oshkosh.  WHITEWATER[/color] blows two, one run leads in game one and Oshkosh pounds the heck out of the relief staff for a 10-4 win.  Game two is the opposite.  WARHAWKS[/color] jump on top 3-0.  Titan get back to within a run but WHITEWATER[/color] has a six run inning, the pitching holds up and they hang a 13-4 loss on Oshkosh.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Mr. Downtown on April 05, 2006, 10:22:41 PM
First, Superior would have a hard time winning the WIAA Championship, little lone the WIAC.

Second, I agree with BadgerWarhawk, I dunno know if anyone is really that good right now. This Oshkosh team is not better then last year's bunch, and that team finished 14-10. They are above average offensively, they have pretty decent pitching, but they are not a good fielding team whatsoever.

Splitting with Whitewater is good for them, and there chances of winning conference. But in all reality, I think everyone has a good shot in the first 6 WIAC games, if 4 of them are against Superior...
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 05, 2006, 10:52:00 PM
Quote from: Mr. Downtown on April 05, 2006, 10:22:41 PM
This Oshkosh team is not better then last year's bunch, and that team finished 14-10. They are above average offensively, they have pretty decent pitching, but they are not a good fielding team whatsoever.
However, I believe this team has the potential to be better than last years.  When you are starting 5 or 6 freshmen sometimes, there is a good chance they are going to improve as the season goes on.  Outside of Jirschele and Yost, you didn't have anyone finish with a BA over .300 last season.  There is a reason there are a lot of new faces around Oshkosh this year.  Chances are you won't see two regular starters not playing in the Conference Tournament this season (assuming they qualify) like you did last year (Perdomo and Balcoa.) 

As far as "decent" pitching, Ziegler is about the only guy that has shown much.  Their staff isn't very deep, and it still remains to be seen what type of affect Stanke is going to have.  If you call that "decent" I would hate to see what you consider a "strong" staff.

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 06, 2006, 12:16:33 AM
Quote from: Mr. Downtown on April 05, 2006, 10:22:41 PM
First, Superior would have a hard time winning the WIAA Championship, little lone the WIAC.

Just FYI, the phrase is "let alone" -- not "little lone."
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BDB on April 06, 2006, 07:54:34 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 06, 2006, 12:16:33 AM
Quote from: Mr. Downtown on April 05, 2006, 10:22:41 PM
First, Superior would have a hard time winning the WIAA Championship, little lone the WIAC.

Just FYI, the phrase is "let alone" -- not "little lone."

Maybe Downtown meant they were a little lonely since they have to travel so damn far everytime they play a conference away game.  ;)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 06, 2006, 11:44:27 AM
April 5th
UW-La Crosse 3, UW-Platteville 1
UW-La Crosse 8, UW-Platteville 6

UW-Oshkosh 10, UW-Whitewater 4
UW-Whitewater 13, UW-Oshkosh 4

UW-Stevens Point 15, UW-Stout 5 (7 innings)
UW-Stevens Point 7, UW-Stout 2

Standings:
SP:  5-0
OSH:  5-1
LC:  3-3
ST:  3-3
WW:  1-1
SUP:  0-4
PLT:  0-5
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 1_For_27 on April 06, 2006, 04:07:44 PM
Can anyone elaborate on the first UWW vs. Slopgosh game?  Last I heard it was 3-3 in the 6th and what was the story from there?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 06, 2006, 09:21:04 PM
 WHITEWATER[/color] scored in the sixth and it was 4-3 after 7..  The  WW[/color] starter was tiring and we made a pitching change.  He kept falling behind the hitters and Oshkosh jumped on him and his successor for 8 hits and 7 runs over the last two innings. Their pitcher kept the ball down, they made the defensive plays and we couldn't get anything going against him.  That's the gist of it. 

We did pretty much the same thing to them in game two turning a close game into a blow out with a 6 run inning and pounding on their relief staff. 

The box scores on our website include a play by play so you can read what happened if you want to.

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BDB on April 09, 2006, 09:29:58 AM
I attended both games Saturday. BW, where were you?  ;)

Some sloppy baseball by the Devils kept them from getting a win. Against Whitewater a team just can't do things to beat themselves and expect a chance to win.

Example: In game 2 during a mid-game mini rally, Stout found themselves with 2 base runners on 3rd base.  :-[

Sure was nice to watch some baseball. Maybe the Devils can get it done today.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 09, 2006, 09:48:51 PM
No, BDB, I wasn't in Stout this weekend.  Actually I was in Phoenix basking in 86 degree weather and hangin by the hotel pool.  Watched a little Brewer/Diamondback action on the local tv.   Saw the BADGER[/color] hockey win at a sportsbar called the Tilted Kilt, a hooters spin off with a Scottish flair.  If you're ever in Phoenix I highly recommend it.  :D 

WARHAWKS[/color] get both Sunday games too.   In game one they rally from a 2-0 to go up 7-2 before Stout scores 3 in the bottom of the eighth for a 7-5 final.   Stout has 4 errors in that one but we weren't exactly sterling with 3 ourselves. 

In game two the WARHAWKS[/color] jump on top 7-0 and cruise to a 10-4 win. 

Excellent weekend for the WARHAWKS[/color].  We really needed to take all four of these and the mission was accomplished. 


Hats off to LaCrosse who takes 3 of 4 from pre-season favorite Stevens Point.   Nice job Eagle and thanks. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 10, 2006, 10:39:19 AM
April 8-9
UW-La Crosse 6, UW-Stevens Point 2
UW-La Crosse 9, UW-Stevens Point 6
UW-Stevens Point 14, UW-La Crosse 1 (7 innings)
UW-La Crosse 5, UW-Stevens Point 2

UW-Platteville 8, UW-Superior 0
UW-Platteville 11, UW-Superior 0 (7 innings)
UW-Platteville 11, UW-Superior 0 (7 innings)
UW-Platteville 11, UW-Superior 1 (7 innings)

UW-Whitewater 12, UW-Stout 10
UW-Whitewater 11, UW-Stout 4
UW-Whitewater 7, UW-Stout 5
UW-Whitewater 10, UW-Stout 4

Standings
OSH  5-1
WW  5-1
SP    6-3
LC    6-4
PLT   4-5
ST    3-7
SUP  0-8

Great weekend for the Eagles and a blow to the Pointers.  That cancelled game against Platteville might come back to haunt Point at the end of the year.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on April 11, 2006, 06:14:37 PM
Could someone tell me how far you have to walk to get to the stands at the new UWO field. I've got a bad knee and can't go too far. Thanks.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 13, 2006, 09:49:46 PM
WARHAWKS[/color] take both ends of today's doublehitter 12-2 in seven and 9-3 in game two.  Jacobson throws a 2 hitter with 9 Ks and  Nick Teach, Eddie Adamson and Bill Gorman total 10 rbi in the first one.  Adam Dominick goes 6.2 giving up three runs and Greg Riek and Jay Grutzmacher finish things up in game two.  Adamson drives in three more. 

LaCrosse got a split with Oshkosh so the WARHAWKS[/color] moved into sole possession of first place in the conference standings but, obviously, there's a long way to go yet.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 15, 2006, 12:07:35 PM
WARHAWKS[/COLOR] and Platteville split yesterday's doublehitter with Platteville rallying from an 11-4 deficit after 5 complete to score 10 runs against the relief pitchers and pull out the win 14-13.  Base on balls and errors killed us in that one. 

The Pioneer took the early lead 2-0 in game two but WHITEWATER[/color] plated five runs in the second inning to go ahead 5-2.  The Pioneer rallied for three in the third to tie the game 5-5 but the WARHAWKS[/color]  bats came alive and they got five strong innings of relief from a freshman for the 11-5 win.

I will never mention our position in the standings again until the season is completed.  Sheeze, what the hell was I thinking.   

Oshkosh takes two from LaCrosse to win 3 of their 4 games.  Stout sweeps Superior on both days.  Stevens Point was idle.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: titan2000 on April 16, 2006, 02:47:30 PM
Quite a few folks in Appleton at the 2005 NCAA tourney thought that Whitewater may have been the worst championship team in NCAA history.

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 16, 2006, 03:23:56 PM
Quote from: titan2000 on April 16, 2006, 02:47:30 PM
Quite a few folks in Appleton at the 2005 NCAA tourney thought that Whitewater may have been the worst championship team in NCAA history.



Yeah, and that is like the old joke.

"Do you what they call the guy who graduated last in his class in medical school?"

"Doctor!" :D  ;D  ;)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 16, 2006, 06:18:32 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 16, 2006, 03:23:56 PM
Yeah, and that is like the old joke.

"Do you what they call the guy who graduated last in his class in medical school?"

"Doctor!" :D  ;D  ;)

That's not from personal experience, right? :)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 16, 2006, 08:10:19 PM
Quote from: titan2000 on April 16, 2006, 02:47:30 PM
Quite a few folks in Appleton at the 2005 NCAA tourney thought that Whitewater may have been the worst championship team in NCAA history.




ROTFLMFAO   

It makes one wonder what they would have thought of either Oshkosh or Lawrence if they'd had a chance to see them. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 16, 2006, 09:48:36 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 16, 2006, 06:18:32 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 16, 2006, 03:23:56 PM
Yeah, and that is like the old joke.

"Do you what they call the guy who graduated last in his class in medical school?"

"Doctor!" :D  ;D  ;)

That's not from personal experience, right? :)

:D :D :D :D :D :D 8)

You are correct!  It is not from personal experience!  But I know who he was! ;)

:D :D :D :D :D :D ;D
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 17, 2006, 10:04:50 AM
April 13-14
UW-Oshkosh 6, UW-La Crosse 1
UW-La Crosse 7, UW-Oshkosh 1
UW-Oshkosh 8, UW-La Crosse 6
UW-Oshkosh 11, UW-La Crosse 9

UW-Stout 18, UW-Superior 4 (7 innings)
UW-Stout 9, UW-Superior 1
UW-Stout 13, UW-Superior 4
UW-Stout 11, UW-Superior 4

UW-Whitewater 12, UW-Platteville 2 (7 innings)
UW-Whitewater 9, UW-Platteville 3
UW-Platteville 14, UW-Whitewater 13
UW-Whitewater 11, UW-Platteville 5

Standings
OSH   8-2
WW   8-2
SP      6-3
LC      7-7
ST      7-7
PLT    5-8
SUP   0-12
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: voice on April 17, 2006, 01:37:28 PM
Titan2000

I also talked to the same folks at last Spring's NCAA III Championship Tournament in Appleton.  They all seemed to be Oshkosh players that didn't seem to have what it takes again last year to get to the D-3 World Series. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 17, 2006, 02:20:19 PM
Quote from: voice on April 17, 2006, 01:37:28 PM
I also talked to the same folks at last Spring's NCAA III Championship Tournament in Appleton.  They all seemed to be Oshkosh players that didn't seem to have what it takes again last year to get to the D-3 World Series. 
I find that hard to believe, because outside of Jirschele, Yost and Huffman, there wasn't a whole lot of talent on that team.  There is a reason why there are only a couple players from last years team on this years roster (Schwebke, Shere, Burgert, Hubacek, and Arrowood.)  There are also only maybe 2? pitchers (Ziegler and Bolton) who threw more than 20 innings last season on this years roster.

If you know anything about Lechnir, he hates losing, so if the players he had last season weren't good enough to get it done, he was going to find a differnet group of players.  There is a reason that there have been 6 freshman in the starting line-up at times this season, and a total of 8 freshman have started.

Voice-
As far as a Whitewater fan taking a "shot" at an opposing team, you would have been one of the last people I thought it would come from (along with Badgerwarhawk.)  Whether you like the program or not, it's hard to argue with what Lechnir has done at Oshkosh.  I can remember not too long ago when Whitewater was struggling to finish over .500 (1999 at 20-20, 2002 at 21-19.)  There has been one time in the last 15 years where Oshkosh hasn't finished 10 games over .500 (2002.)  Sure it is easy to forget about history when your school is coming off a National Championship, but as the saying goes, "It's easier to get to the top then it is staying there."  I have a feeling when everything is said and done, you won't see Whitewater at the top of the conference (much less Region or Nation) in what I would consider a VERY WEAK Baseball Conference this year.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 17, 2006, 02:57:56 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 17, 2006, 02:20:19 PM
Quote from: voice on April 17, 2006, 01:37:28 PM
Whether you like the program or not, it's hard to argue with what Lechnir has done at Oshkosh.  I can remember not too long ago when Whitewater was struggling to finish over .500 (1999 at 20-20, 2002 at 21-19.)  There has been one time in the last 15 years where Oshkosh hasn't finished 10 games over .500 (2002.)  Sure it is easy to forget about history when your school is coming off a National Championship, but as the saying goes, "It's easier to get to the top then it is staying there."  I have a feeling when everything is said and done, you won't see Whitewater at the top of the conference (much less Region or Nation) in what I would consider a VERY WEAK Baseball Conference this year.

Well said, Cubs. The empty can rattles the most.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: voice on April 17, 2006, 04:07:24 PM
Actually I have great respect for the UWO baseball program. As you put it succinctly, the Titans record speaks for itself.
Titan2000's comment about UW-Whitewater being one of the weakest D3 champions in several years was uncalled for and obviously posted prior to the two teams squaring off on Wednesday in Oshkosh. 

On another subject... having the WIAC postseason tournament at a neutral site. the pressure of getting home field advantage isn't a factor now.  In a short season, having to win against the "big dogs" was always an intriguing part of the WIAC baseball regular season.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 17, 2006, 04:11:56 PM
Where is the WIAC tourney this season... still in Rapids? or does it move around from place to place?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: voice on April 17, 2006, 04:12:54 PM
It is still in Wisconsin Rapids
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 17, 2006, 04:39:08 PM
As I understood it, the tournament in Wisconsin Rapids was a two-year trial (2006 being the second year).  After this year they will re-evaluate and either stick with Rapids, return it to conference champions home, or (I guess) see if another "neutral" community wants it.  If I was a betting man, I'd put down a small wager that it stays in Rapids for at least a couple more years.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 17, 2006, 05:08:11 PM
The great thing about Rapids, other than the field, is that it is centrally located in the state. I would actually like to see it moved to Appleton. It has a great venue and it could do wonders for the recruiting of the WIAC schools. More prospective players could see it in Appleton than Rapids as Appleton hasa much bigger "metropolitan" population with the Fox Cities than Rapids does being surrounded by farm communities.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 17, 2006, 08:34:20 PM
Quote from: voice on April 17, 2006, 04:07:24 PM
Titan2000's comment about UW-Whitewater being one of the weakest D3 champions in several years was uncalled for and obviously posted prior to the two teams squaring off on Wednesday in Oshkosh. 
Shouldn't we all know by now that titan2000's words should be taken with a grain of salt?  This is the guy that says he likes to see Oshkosh win but is the first one to kick them after a loss. ::)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 17, 2006, 10:18:10 PM


WARHAWKS[/color] warm up for the Titan with a pair of wins over Lawrence to improve to 17-7 on the season.   

Trailing 2-1 in the eighth inning of game two the WARHAWKS[/color] got a huge break when a passed ball on a strikeout extended the inning allowing Jordan Stine to drive in the tying run and Mike Jacobson to follow two batters later with the winner, 3-2.  Five pitchers took the mound with none pitching over two innings.

Game one was easier as the WARHAWKS[/color] plated four runs in their first at bat and added a fifth before Lawrence got on the board.  The WARHAWKS[/color] added four more runs before the end for a 9-1 win.  Five pitchers combined to pitch a 5 hitter.

I have heard that at least two other Wisconsin communities were interested in hosting the WIAC tournament, Wausau and Appleton.



Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 1_For_27 on April 19, 2006, 05:54:20 PM
Can I get a whitewater vs. slopgosh update?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 19, 2006, 07:22:01 PM
Oshkosh's web site says the first game went to Whitewater 7-4.  Second game not in yet.

Elsewhere, SP sweeps Stout 1-0 and 7-5.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 19, 2006, 08:58:50 PM
The WARHAWKS[/color] and Titan split a pair of 9-4 games.  WHITEWATER[/color] jumps on top 5-1 in game one goes on to get 13 hits and four Titan errors in the easy win.  Adam Dominick goes 5 innings, gives up a single run and gets the win.    Jason Rutz goes 3-5 with 2 RBIs and Greg Harder goes 3-6 with  2 RBIs to lead the HAWKS[/color].

Game two is the opposite.  The Titan jump on top 9-0 in the first five innings before the WARHAWKS[/color] get 2 runs in the sixth and ninth for the final.  Adam Roos goes 9 full for Oshkosh surrendering 8 hits.  Matt Schliewe goes 2-4 with an RBI to pace WHITEWATER[/color] offensively.

WHITEWATER[/color] ends the day 9-3, 18-8.  Oshkosh 9-3, 17-7.  The two teams split the regular season series. 

Big, big weekend coming up with the Pointer in town.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: titan2000 on April 19, 2006, 09:19:18 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 17, 2006, 08:34:20 PM
Quote from: voice on April 17, 2006, 04:07:24 PM
Titan2000's comment about UW-Whitewater being one of the weakest D3 champions in several years was uncalled for and obviously posted prior to the two teams squaring off on Wednesday in Oshkosh. 
Shouldn't we all know by now that titan2000's words should be taken with a grain of salt?  This is the guy that says he likes to see Oshkosh win but is the first one to kick them after a loss. ::)

Cubs:

Only when they severely underachieve like the 2005/2006 basketball team.  What a waste.  That was terrible, embarrasing and should not be tolerated by the Titan faithful.

T2K
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on April 20, 2006, 07:45:45 AM
Article on ex-WW pitcher Reinhard. http://www.postcrescent.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060420/APC021102/604200682/1892
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 20, 2006, 09:30:46 AM
Thanks for finding that and posting the link Flash.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 20, 2006, 10:19:36 AM
Wed. 4/19
UW-La Crosse 13, UW-Platteville 12 (11 innings)
UW-La Crosse 12, UW-Platteville 1 (7 innings)

UW-Whitewater 9, UW-Oshkosh 4
UW-Oshkosh 9, UW-Whitewater 4

UW-Stevens Point 1, UW-Stout 0
UW-Stevens Point 7, UW-Stout 5

Standings
OSH   9-3
WW   9-3
SP      8-3
LC      9-7
ST      7-9
PLT    5-10
SUP    0-12
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 20, 2006, 02:42:16 PM
Quote from: titan2000 on April 19, 2006, 09:19:18 PM
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Cubs:

Only when they severely underachieve like the 2005/2006 basketball team. What a waste. That was terrible, embarrasing and should not be tolerated by the Titan faithful.

T2K


I'd buy that explanation except for the fact it was the same thing with you and the 2004/2005 team and I'll bet that wasn't the first time either.   
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pastprime on April 22, 2006, 02:32:56 PM
Underachieve?  Who are you to decide.  Is your life so desperately unfullfilled if Oshkosh loses?  Titan2000, get a life and move on.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 22, 2006, 06:35:34 PM
WARHAWKS[/color] and Pointer split the first two.  Game on saw Mike Jacobson pitch a complete game, eight hit, seven strikeout, shutout for the the 5-0 win.  Ben Prather put two off the fence going 3 for 5 with 3 RBI's to pace the WARHAWK[/color] offensively.

Game two gets ugly fast as the WARHAWKS[/color] misplay three bunts, commit an error and the Pointer  turn their second at bat into 7 runs.  Pointer pound out 20 hits against a parade of WARHAWK[/color] pitchers in this one and win a butt waxing 19-4 in seven innings.

It rained in Madison and cancelled the doublehitter between the Titan and Pioneer who were scheduled to play at Warner Park.   Evidently that cost the Pioneer the neutral field and the two will play all four games in Oshkosh, weather permitting, tommorrow and Monday. 

The total rainfall in Madison yesterday was 0.14 inches and it fell at 2:30am.  How does a little over one tenth an inch of rain almost 10 hours before the first pitch cancel a doublehitter and move the location to another city?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 23, 2006, 09:06:26 PM
WARHAWKS[/color] and Pointer split again today.  WHITEWATER[/color] battles back from 4-0 and 6-3 deficits to take a 9-6 lead into the fifth inning.  But the Pointer score five times in their last four at bats and take game one 11-9.  Eddie Adamson goes 3 for 5 with 3 RBI to pace the WARHAWKS[/color] offense.

In game two the WARHAWKS[/color] jump on top early by a 5-1 score after two innings.  But, again, the Pointer get back into the game with two runs in the fourth, three in the seventh and a solo run in the eighth to take a 7-6 lead.  However this time the WARHAWKS[/color] were able to rally themselves scoring one run on a sacrifice fly and another on clutch double by Greg Harder to regain the lead 8-7 and freshman Kris Edwards retired the Pointer in their last at bat to preserve the win.   Harder was 3 for 5 with the RBI to lead the WARHAWKS[/color] at the plate.

The day ends with WHITEWATER[/color] 11-5 in conference play and 20-10 on the season.  Stevens Point concludes the day at 10-5, 18-10. 



Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 23, 2006, 09:26:21 PM
Oshkosh and Platteville split today, with Platteville winning Game #1, 8-4.  The loss marked the 4th straight time Oshkosh had lost to Platteville going back to last season.  Oshkosh rebounds and wins game #2 11-5.

It would not suprise me if the Conference Champion ended up losing 7 or 8 games this season.  It doesn't appear that anyone is head and shoulders above the rest of the league.  Since going to the 24 game schedule, the most losses a Conference Champion has had is 5, by the 2003 Whitewater squad.  This was the same season Oshkosh received four "losses" in the standings for having 2 DH's rained out against La Crosse and Superior to finish 17-7.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 24, 2006, 10:26:35 AM
April 22-23
UW-La Crosse 17, UW-Superior 2 (7 innings)
UW-La Crosse 16, UW-Superior 6 (8 innings)
UW-La Crosse 9, UW-Superior 6
UW-La Crosse 16, UW-Superior 2 (7 innings)

UW-Whitewater 5, UW-Stevens Point 0
UW-Stevens Point 19, UW-Whitewater 4 (7 innings)
UW-Stevens Point 11, UW-Whitewater 9
UW-Whitewater 8, UW-Stevens Point 7

UW-Platteville 8, UW-Oshkosh 4
UW-Oshkosh 11, UW-Platteville 5
UW-Platteville at UW-Oshkosh (DH) - Monday

Standings
OSH   10-4
WW    11-5
SP      10-5
LC      13-7
ST        7-9
PLT      6-11
SUP     0-16
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 24, 2006, 11:40:20 AM
Looks great a great race is going on in the WIAC. Come on Superior, you gotta win at least one!!
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 24, 2006, 12:20:10 PM
What are the chances of the WIAC teams getting two into the NCAAs? For those that follow the WIAC, how are the teams looking and who is able to make a dent nationally this year.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 24, 2006, 12:27:25 PM
Of course it depends on how the rest of the season plays out but I think we've got a chance of getting two teams participating.  Particularly if either Oshkosh or Point were to sweep their series.  However I'm not certain that any of our programs have the pitching depth to go deep into the national tournament. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 24, 2006, 01:02:28 PM
I wouldn't count out a WIAC team either though. Everyone knows that the top teams from your conference can hit the crap out of the ball year after year. If you can get through the first few games of regionals with no losses or just one, then you will be getting deep into other teams pitching staff's as well and just pile up the runs like I see have been done already in some conference games between good teams.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 24, 2006, 01:54:54 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 24, 2006, 12:20:10 PM
What are the chances of the WIAC teams getting two into the NCAAs? For those that follow the WIAC, how are the teams looking and who is able to make a dent nationally this year.
Not knowing what some of the other teams around the Nation records look like I can't really predict if a WIAC team has a chance at a Pool C bid.  As it stands now, the WIAC won't have a team looking for a Pool C bid with less than 10 losses.  (Oshkosh has 8, but if they don't with the Conference Tourney that would be 2 more losses.)  In years past I don't remember how may losses got a team a Pool C bid, but I can remember when Oshkosh and Ripon recived Pool C bids in the Titans were 33-6 and the the Red Hawks 32-4.  I believe Christopher Newport was the ohter Pool C that season and they had maybe 7 losses??  I know there are nearly 5 times as many Pool C bids now, but when your sitting at 11, 12, or 13 losses, I have a feeling there are going to be a few 7, 8, and 9 loss teams getting bids first, regardless of conference strength. 

I may be wrong, but I have a feeling the WIAC is a one bid league this season.

As far as making a dent Nationally, I just don't see it.  I have said earlier this year, but this is as "watered down" I have seen the pitching in a long time.  We all know that the successful teams are the ones that can pitch in the postseason (Whitewater and Oshkosh teams of the past.)  There just doesn't appear to be that type of team this season.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 24, 2006, 03:59:34 PM
Well you can make that 12 losses for sure (the least amount a WIAC team will have in hopes of a Pool C bid) as Platteville sweeps Oshkosh today.  I think that noise you heard was the WIAC's Pool C chances flying right out the window.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 25, 2006, 10:52:52 AM
April 24

UW-Platteville 7, UW-Oshkosh 6
UW-Platteville 12, UW-Oshkosh 7

Standings (Remaining WIAC Series):
WW   11-5  (@ SUP, vs. LC)
SP     10-5  (@ OSH, vs. SUP)
OSH   10-6  (vs. SP, vs. ST)
LC      13-7  (Off, @ WW)
ST       7-9   (vs. PLT, @ OSH)
PLT     8-11 (@ ST, Off)
SUP    0-16  (vs. WW, @ SP)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 25, 2006, 11:12:08 AM
Wow, I'm assuming Oshkosh had to go pretty deep into their pitching staff for this double header.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 25, 2006, 04:59:37 PM
Quote from: REDMENFAN on April 25, 2006, 11:12:08 AM
Wow, I'm assuming Oshkosh had to go pretty deep into their pitching staff for this double header.


Actually they only used four pitchers in the Monday DH and nine pitchers in the four game series. No pitcher was used in more than one game. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 26, 2006, 02:46:11 PM
Not that anyone needed any proof that Superior is...ahem...not good, but I thought this was amazing.

Superior has only held the lead in a WIAC game twice this season in 16 games.  Both times, the lead lasted for exactly 1/2 inning.

Led La Crosse 2-1 at the end of the 1st

Led Oshkosh 1-0 at the end of the 1st

Yikes!
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 26, 2006, 07:10:25 PM
As long as it continues at least one more weekend.  :D
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 27, 2006, 01:01:14 PM
I was surprised to see Oshkosh only salvage a split with Marion yesterday though the Point series this weekend probably had an impact on what pitchers they used.   But, Marion?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 27, 2006, 01:40:25 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 27, 2006, 01:01:14 PM
I was surprised to see Oshkosh only salvage a split with Marion yesterday though the Point series this weekend probably had an impact on what pitchers they used.   But, Marion?
I think it said something in the boxscore that they started 7 freshman, including the DH (Shere, Arrowood, and Accola.)  Looks like Lechnir is going back to his old ways, instead of using transfers to plug holes for a year or two.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 29, 2006, 11:04:40 PM
WHITEWATER[/color] gets the first two against Superior 14-3 and 9-2. 

Superior led 3-0 after the first inning in game one but the WARHAWKS[/color] answered with 3 in their second at bat and scored in 4 of the next 5 innings for the seven inning victory.  Matt Schliewe drove in five runs with a double and a home run while Jordan Stine, Greg Harder and Ben Prather had 3 hits apiece. 

The game two the WARHAWKS[/color] went up 9-0 before Superior got a pair of runs in their last at bat.  Stine continued hitting well going 3 for 4 with an RBI.  Prather also had three hits.

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Oshkosh and Point played a pair of dandies today.  Oshkosh trailed 1-0 in game one and had gone hitless into the sixth inning when they got their only two hits of the game, a two out single followed by a home run.  Oshkosh holds on for the 2-1 win.

Game two was even wilder.  Point blew another lead and the teams went to extra innings when the game was tied 3-3 at the end of nine.   It continued that way until the bottom of the 11th when Oshkosh drew three walks.  One was intentional, the last one forced in the winning run, 4-3. 

Hopefully the Pointer can rebound for a pair of wins tomorrow. :D
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 30, 2006, 04:05:16 PM
Any updates on which games are being played or not? I know many teams had moved their game from Sat. and Sun. to Fri. and Sat.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 30, 2006, 05:18:10 PM
Today's WARHAWK[/color]/Superior doublehitter was moved from Superior to the Humpty Dumpty Dome and the start pushed back to 8pm.  Looks like some midnight baseball tonight.

Oshkosh/Point was cancelled and rescheduled for Monday.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 01, 2006, 12:31:44 PM
April 29-30
UW-Oshkosh 2, UW-Stevens Point 1
UW-Oshkosh 4, UW-Stevens Point 3 (11 innings)
Stevens Point @ Oshkosh (DH) - Monday

UW-Stout 6, UW-Platteville 4
UW-Stout 14, UW-Platteville 3 (7 innings)
Platteville @ Stout (DH) - Monday

UW-Whitewater 14, UW-Superior 3 (7 innings)
UW-Whitewater 9, UW-Superior 2
UW-Whitewater 14, UW-Superior 1 (7 innings)
UW-Whitewater 10, UW-Superior 0 (8 innings)

Standings
WW   15-5
OSH   12-6
LC      13-7
SP      10-7
ST        9-9
PLT      8-13
SUP     0-20
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 01, 2006, 12:49:45 PM
Does the WIAC conference tourney champ get the bid or is it a combination of the season and the tourney?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 01, 2006, 01:51:19 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 01, 2006, 12:49:45 PM
Does the WIAC conference tourney champ get the bid or is it a combination of the season and the tourney?
The Conference Tournament Champion receives the automatic bid.  The regular season is used for seeding purposes only.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 01, 2006, 02:15:19 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 01, 2006, 01:51:19 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 01, 2006, 12:49:45 PM
Does the WIAC conference tourney champ get the bid or is it a combination of the season and the tourney?
The Conference Tournament Champion receives the automatic bid.  The regular season is used for seeding purposes only.
The Regular Season champion is considered to be the WIAC Champion.  The tournament detemines only the automatic bid.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 01, 2006, 02:16:08 PM
This is a couple of weeks old, but its a nice story on Josh Perkins who returned to UW-Stevens Point's team after serving in Iraq.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=416555
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 01, 2006, 02:26:00 PM
The WARHAWKS[/color] get both wins in mercy shortened games.  Tied 1-1 after the second inning of game one the WARHAWKS[/color] score the next 13 runs to win 14-1 in 7 innings.  Mike Jacobson gets the win.  Matt DeLong goes 4x4 and scores 4 runs.  Eddie Adamson (2x4), Greg Harder (2x4), Matt Schliewe (2x4) and Jacobson (2x4) drive in a total of 11 runs.

Game two saw the WARHAWKS[/color] score 4 in their first at bat and cruise to the 10-0 win in 8 innings.  Jordan Stien paced the offense going 3x4 and driving in 4 runs.  Eddie Adamson contributed 2 RBIs going 2x4 at the plate.  Adam Dominick got win pitching 5 shutout innings, giving up 2 hits and striking out 9.

WARHAWKS[/color] improve to 24-10 on the season, 15-5 in conference play. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 01, 2006, 03:44:09 PM
How mant times has Superior been beaten on the mercy rule this season? It needs to be close to a record. It has to be tough to recruit kids to play in that area because of the weather.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 01, 2006, 03:58:29 PM
Superior has been "Mercy-ruled" 13 times in 20 WIAC games so far this year.  They have given up at least 8 runs in every WIAC game and at least 10 runs in 16 games.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 01, 2006, 04:11:19 PM
WOW!!!! That is a long season for those guys.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 02, 2006, 10:07:34 AM
May 1
UW-Oshkosh 4, UW-Stevens Point 2
UW-Oshkosh 7, UW-Stevens Point 3

UW-Platteville at UW-Stout - Cancelled

Standings (Remaining Series)
WW   15-5   (vs. LC)
OSH   14-6   (vs. ST)
LC   13-7   (@ WW)
SP   10-9   (vs. SUP)
ST     9-9   (@ OSH)
PLT     8-13
SUP    0-20   (@ SP)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 02, 2006, 01:50:02 PM
I am amazed that Point was preseason #6 in the polls and is fighting to stay at .500 in the conference. I am still not certain that this is a down year for the WIAC as I have a feeling they all pound one another and someone will roll in the NCAAs.

I think the WIAC prepares them better than the LMC, MWC, and MIAC does. It will be an interesting regional.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 02, 2006, 06:40:27 PM
The defending champs Whitewater are back in the top 25...Congrats. I gotta agree with BP, no matter which WIAC makes the tournament, I'm sure nobody will want to play them because of their reputation to just absolutely pound the baseball.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 02, 2006, 09:44:15 PM
The WARHAWKS[/color] tuned up for the weekend with a pair of convincing wins over Concordia (Wi) today. 

In game one Eddie Adamson went 4X5 with a double and two home runs good for 6 RBIs and the WARHAWKS[/color] scored in 7 of the 9 innings to coast 18-2.  Ben Prather and Matt Schliewe also had home runs.   Chris Spangler surrendered 3 hits over 5 innings for the win.

In game two the WARHAWKS[/color] got up 8-0 before Concordia got on the board and won 11-4.  Prather was good for two more home runs going 4x6 with 3 RBIs.  Billy Johnson also homered.  Andrew Keller got the win. 

WHITEWATER[/color] improves to 26-10.  Concordia is 19-17. 

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 06, 2006, 08:59:17 AM
The WARHAWKS[/color] and LaCrosse split yesterday's doublehitter.

WHITEWATER[/color] held a 6-4 lead into the seventh inning of game one but a throwing error and two hit batters turned a 2 run inning into a 5 run inning for the Eagle and they went on to win 9-7.  Jordan Stine and Bill Gorman each had 2 RBI to lead the WARHAWKS[/color]. 

We were all pretty bummed but the mood lightened when the word came in from Oshkosh and Stout had taken the Titan, 15-7, in their first game.

WHITEWATER[/color] rebounded in game two.  Tied 1-1 after 3 innings the WARHAWKS[/color] scored 7 runs over the 4th and 5th innings and went on for the 8-2 victory.  Adam Dominick went the full 9 innings on the mound striking out 8.  Jason Rutz and Ben Prather both went 2X4 with 3 and 2 RBIs respectively.

Prather extended his school record hitting streak to 25 games. 

Stout also took the second game against the Titan 16-5.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 07, 2006, 10:49:25 AM
The WARHAWKS[/color] started fast in game one jumping to a 3-0 lead on Mike Jacobson's 3-run home run in the first inning.  LaCrosse came back to tie the game 3-3 but the WARHAWKS[/color] retook the lead in their next at bat and scored four more times to the Eagle's once and clinched their fourth consecutive conference championship 7-4.   Jacobson carried the offensive load with 4 RBIs while senior hurler Andrew Keller went the distance yielding 6 hits.  Regrettably I jinxed Ben Prather who's hitting streak was halted at 25 games.  When will I ever learn? 

The championship was WHITEWATER'S[/color] 6th in the past 7 seasons.  With championships in football, men's basketball and baseball WHITEWATER[/color] becomes only the second school in conference history to accomplish that feat within the same academic school year.  The other is Stevens Point who has done it twice ('99-'00) ('00-'01).   

It was LaCrosse who started hot in game two with a 3 runs in their first at bat and building an 8-2 lead before Eddie Adamson's 3-run home in the bottom of the eigth cut the lead to 3 runs, 8-5, but it was too little, too late as the Eagle went on to win by the same score.

WHITEWATER[/color] finishes regular season play with an overall record of 28-12 and 17-7 in conference play securing the #1 seed in the upcoming tournament.  LaCrosse finishes 21-17, 15-9 and the #3 seed.  Oshkosh took both games from Stout yesterday to finish 27-13, 16-8 with the #2 seed and Stevens Point outscores Superior 54-2 in four mercy shortened games to finish 25-14, 14-9 and with the #4 seed.


Friday, 5/12
10 am.....WHITEWATER[/color] vs. Stevens Point
1 pm.......Oshkosh vs LaCrosse


Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2006, 08:56:59 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 17, 2006, 02:20:19 PM
I have a feeling when everything is said and done, you won't see Whitewater at the top of the conference (much less Region or Nation) in what I would consider a VERY WEAK Baseball Conference this year.
Boy I sure called that one........ ::) 

Congrats Whitewater on the Conference Championship.  I still think whoever wins the Conference Tournament will receive the only WIAC bid into the NCAA Tournament.  The least amount of losses a team could have is 14, if Whitewater would happen to come up short.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2006, 10:51:34 AM
Weak or whatever with three of the four playoff teams having a chance to secure the #1 seed on the final weekend of the regular season it was a very competitive year.   What surprised me is that the league went sub .500 out of conference.

For certain the league needs the other regional conference champions to win their tournaments, secure automatic bids, and not use up any extra at large bids.   
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: voice on May 08, 2006, 01:15:16 PM
I'm not really sure what "weak" means when talking about the strength of the WIAC this spring.  Last year, Whitewater went into the NCAA III playoffs ranked #1 in the country even though they lost the WIAC postseason title to Stevens Point and went on to sweep its way through the tournament on the way to the 2005 NCAA III Title.  A couple of weeks ago, someone on this forum called Whitewater one of the weakest national champions in several years.

I guess if you consider that to be true, this year's WIAC is not as strong as last years.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 08, 2006, 01:38:27 PM
Any division 3 team that has a pitcher drafted in the top 10 rounds, and 2 pitchers drafted overall obviously is not a weak team. I don't know how you could say a team that put up the offensive numbers WW did last year, and with those 2 pitchers could be one of the weakest national champions in recent memory.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2006, 01:58:32 PM
Quote from: REDMENFAN on May 08, 2006, 01:38:27 PM
I don't know how you could say a team that put up the offensive numbers WW did last year, and with those 2 pitchers could be one of the weakest national champions in recent memory.
Those of us that frequent the WIAC boards should remember who the source of that "information" was (titan2000.)  I for one don't put a lot of weight in his ramblings about rats, TVD fishing, etc... ::)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2006, 02:03:43 PM
Quote from: voice on May 08, 2006, 01:15:16 PM
Last year, Whitewater went into the NCAA III playoffs ranked #1 in the country even though they lost the WIAC postseason title to Stevens Point and went on to sweep its way through the tournament on the way to the 2005 NCAA III Title. 
Whitewater's 2005 team was special, which is why they were able to win the whole thing.  As I've said before there isn't a pitcher on any WIAC team that could come close to what Reinhard or Tomasiewicz did last year.  If there was, I would make that pitchers team the favorite to win the Conference Tournament this season.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gustie13 on May 08, 2006, 10:45:44 PM
Hello WIACers..
As an avid follower of the MIAC and Midwest Region baseball I believe I can honestly say, for the first time since UST won the natl title in 2001, that the MIAC is the strongest league in the region this year. The MIAC went 8-3 vs the WIAC this year (true, 4 of those wins were against lowly UW Superior), but more impressively the 4 MIAC playoff teams went 3-0 vs the 4 WIAC playoff teams, including Gustavus' 8-5 win over reg season champ UW Whitewater and staff ace Mike Jacobsen.

The strength of the MIAC this year is undoubtedly the pitching; 6 pitchers with over 30 innings pitched recorded eras under 2.50 (vs 2 in the WIAC). After losing Player of the Year Brett Olsen and Pitcher of the Year Brian Krause UST added 2 stud freshmen pitchers in Dan Leslie and Erik Olsen, while St Olaf has 4 top flight pitchers in Sr. Eric Tobias, Sr. Dan O'Malley, So. Paul Johnson, and Fr. Todd Mathison who in his first season of conf play did not yield an earned run in 31 innings pitched. Gustavus is led, as always, by Seniors Josh Spitzack and Andy Schmidt, and Hamline's staff leans heavily on Sr. Kyle Foster and So. Josh Roiger. As evidence of the strong pitching I point to the new record for team conference ERA; a record which had been held by the 1991 St Olaf team (1.87) for 15 years before being broken by both the 2006 St Olaf (1.77) and UST (1.64) staffs.

Hitting on MIAC squads is very different than on WIAC teams: Gustavus Jr. Tony Konicek (who should easily be conf player of the year) led the league with a .475 average, with 7 others also above .400 (vs 3 in the WIAC). However, you don't see nearly the run production in the MIAC that you do in the WIAC; League leaders in runs, RBIs, and HRs in the MIAC fell short of their WIAC counterparts (50 v 35 for runs, 48 v 44 for RBI, and 12 v 8 for HR), and team power numbers in the WIAC dwarfed those in the MIAC (346 runs for UWW v 244 for Hamline, 47 HR for USP v 18 for Gustavus, and .505 slug% for USP v .474 slug% for Gustavus).

I don't have much respect for the other leagues in the Midwest regions (MWC, LMC, & UMAC) or their leaders (Ripon, Edgewood, or College of St. Scholastica) because of how poor the competition is for them in their leagues. I'd give the MIAC a 50/50 chance of having its representative(s) win the Region, the WIAC 30/70 and CSS 20/80. No way Ripon or Edgewood win more than a single game in Regions.

This message isn't meant to be derogatory (well, at least not towards WIACers) its just my opinion of the balance of power in the region. I've often said to my friends that the WIAC is the best baseball conference in the nation, however, this year I feel the MIAC is stronger.

If anyone has a similar run down of the WIAC from the WIAC side of things I'd love to hear it.

Good Luck and Go Gusties!
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: POUNDTHEROCK on May 10, 2006, 11:57:52 AM
Does anyone on this board know why the WIAC made the decision to move the baseball tournament to a nuetral site in Wisconsin Rapids.
I know only four teams make the tournament,and would think that it would generate more revenue,and more home team fans if they just had the tournament at the school who won the conference. Sort of like the reward for them winning the conference. I know that it may not seem fair,and that not all of the schools have two baseball fields on campus, but most have another place they can play.
Such as Whitewater the high school and then the on campus field. Not to mention Whitewater has the best dam gounds crew manager Brezowitz in all of the WIAC.
In 2003 they most likely wouldn't ave played the tournament at UWW if it wasn't for him, as he was at the fileds at seven thirty raking them,and getting them ready.
Any insight into this would be much appreciated.I just think that the team that wins the conference should host the conference tournament. Even if it's in the same place every year such as Oshkosh or Whitewater.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 10, 2006, 12:23:41 PM
A few things came together to put the WIAC tournament in Wisconsin Rapids.

In 2004 when Whitewater hosted, they used Whitewater HS as the second field.  Unfortunately, the field was swamped with rain the week before and even after three days of work it was poor shape.  The games also got pushed late in the day which forced Point and La Crosse to drive down the road to Jefferson to play a game under the lights.  One of the parents of a La Crosse player happened to be from Rapids.  He approached the Rapids visitors bureau and the mayor about bidding to host the WIAC Tournament.  They put together a proposal and set up a meeting with the WIAC commish.

At that time the WIAC was trying to solve a few problems.  They didn't like the fact that we were playing two games of the WIAC Tournament on substandard fields (WW HS, Bukolt Park in SP).  They wanted a facility with lights so that they would have more time to get games in, in case of weather delays, but no WIAC shcool has lights.  The WIAC was also shopping around the possibility of playing the WIAC basketball tournament at a neutral site, and the thought was that the proposal from Rapids could be a test run for a neutral site championship.

The coaches weren't crazy about it either, but they decided to give Rapids a two-year run to see what it would be like.  This is the second year.  Personally, I went last year and thought the Rapids put on a great show.  Even with the rain, they were able to play the first six games on one field in a two day span.  As a fan, I enjoyed being able to see every game of the tournament and not having to split my attention between two fields.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 10, 2006, 01:02:13 PM
Quote from: POUNDTHEROCK on May 10, 2006, 11:57:52 AM
Such as Whitewater the high school and then the on campus field. Not to mention Whitewater has the best dam gounds crew manager Brezowitz in all of the WIAC.
In 2003 they most likely wouldn't ave played the tournament at UWW if it wasn't for him, as he was at the fileds at seven thirty raking them,and getting them ready.
If you think 7:30 is early, try coming up to Oshkosh in April when the players have been clearing snow off the field/tarp for a NC game against St. Scholastica at 6:00/6:30 on a Sunday morning. 

As far as best grounds crew manager, I have a feeling Brezowitz's attention is on the football field in the summer, while Lechnir is busy working on Tiedemann.  I think many would agree, Tiedemann has the best playing surface of any school in the conference.  In addition they have the Major League size infield tarp in case of poor weather.  (Does anyone else in the WIAC have a full size infield tarp?)   When/if they get lights (neighbors objecting right now) I would not be surprised if they put in a bid to host the Conference Tourney.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on May 10, 2006, 02:42:01 PM
I remember when Eau Claire's field at Carson Park was sweet, but I buy Tiedemann being the best now days.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 10, 2006, 07:55:29 PM
We have tarps which cover the entire infield. 

Does anyone else have a helicopter?   I know Oshkosh has the EAA but what about a helicopter?  lol ;)

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: POUNDTHEROCK on May 10, 2006, 11:01:40 PM
Badgerwarhawk,
I forgot about the helicopter idea of Brez's I think it was Brez that thought up that idea, and just had to get the NCAA to agree to pay for it.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 11, 2006, 12:52:55 PM
It might take more than a helicopter to play this weekend in Rapids.  Forecast calls for 50s and showers.  It looks like Friday and Saturday could both be in jeopardy.

Maybe they can call Superior and see if they can pull off that Metrodome deal again like they did for the Whitewater series.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 11, 2006, 02:38:11 PM
Friday's games have been postponed to Saturday.  Read all about it-  http://www.uwsa.edu/wiac/baseball/06trnyppd.html
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: POUNDTHEROCK on May 11, 2006, 02:44:14 PM
If the rainy weather conitnues through the entire weekend. Who from the conference would get the automatic bid then. Wouls it be Whitewater because they won the regular season.
Also what do you think the chances of the warhawks if they get the automatic bid  to host the regiopnals of the world series.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 11, 2006, 02:59:30 PM
I believe they would first switch to single-elimination format.  If the tournament can't be completed, then the highest seed yet to be eliminated would get the automatic bid.  So, if no games were played at all, Whitewater would get the bid as the #1 seed.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 11, 2006, 03:04:58 PM
I hope it clears... nothing more competitive than the WIAC baseball tourney.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 11, 2006, 03:23:36 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on May 11, 2006, 12:52:55 PM
Maybe they can call Superior and see if they can pull off that Metrodome deal again like they did for the Whitewater series.


It was WHITEWATER[/color] that put the MetroDome deal together.  Superior had nothing to do with it. 

One of our parents works in the Twin front office and when it became apparent completing the series was going to be a problem she contacted the coaching staff to see if they would be interested.  When they said they would be she made another phone call and the deal was done.  Convincing Superior to go along with it was somewhat of a problem though, in the end, they were agreeable.

I think the tournament has be completed by a certain time on Sunday because of the selection process.

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 11, 2006, 03:27:10 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 11, 2006, 03:23:36 PM


I think the tournament has be completed by a certain time on Sunday because of the selection process.



You are correct... 6PM.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BDB on May 11, 2006, 04:21:53 PM
I see in the tournament schedule that if a game 7 is necessary, it would start at 6 pm Sunday. So, I wonder what would happen then.

Those will be some cold metal bats this weekend.  :P

Thank God for batting gloves.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 11, 2006, 05:13:14 PM
Quote from: BlueDevil Bob on May 11, 2006, 04:21:53 PM
I see in the tournament schedule that if a game 7 is necessary, it would start at 6 pm Sunday. So, I wonder what would happen then.

Those will be some cold metal bats this weekend.  :P

Thank God for batting gloves.

Who knows... I am almost certain that the 6pm time is correct though. The NCAA committee needs to begin selecting teams and seeding them in the regions to have it annonunced early Monday. It's an amazingly long process.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 12, 2006, 10:55:39 PM
FYI, the helicopter deal wasn't unique.

It was done in the 80s (not sure what year) when Marietta hosted the Series. Brought in a helicopter from the airport across the river.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 13, 2006, 12:26:32 PM
The Tournament is underway!

SP leads WW 1-0 through 6 innings.  Point's Zimmerman has given up just 2 hits and has faced the minimum so far.

Tournament Live Stats:  http://www.uwsa.edu/wiac/baseball/2006Tourny/livestats.htm
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on May 13, 2006, 02:21:11 PM
Thanks for the link BDB, boy Point sure gave that one away.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 13, 2006, 08:31:26 PM
Whitewater scores 4 runs in the bottom of the 9th to come back and defeat Point, 5-4.

La Crosse scores 2 in the top of the 10th, and then holds Oshkosh to 1 run in the bottom half, to defeat Oshkosh 5-4 in 10 innings.

Point's Josh Perkins strikes out 15 Titans, to help Point defeat Oshkosh 3-0 in the first elimination game of the tournament.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BDB on May 14, 2006, 11:42:08 AM
Quote from: janesvilleflash on May 13, 2006, 02:21:11 PM
Thanks for the link BDB, boy Point sure gave that one away.

Flash, I would like to take credit for posting the link, but we better give credit where it is due.  ;)

Nice link, JB. Thanks.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 14, 2006, 08:32:19 PM
Copy, paste, post.  Really, how much credit does anyone deserve for that?

Pointers roar back with three straight wins on Sunday to claim the tournament for the second straight year.  Point edges LC 10-9 before pasting WW 14-7 and 12-2.  At the onset I thought Point was the most talented team, but had a terrible time getting crucial hits and avoiding crucial mistakes in tight games.  After Game 1 against WW on Saturday I thought there was no way they were mentally tough enough to recover from a world class choke job like that.  They proved me wrong.

I heard a rumor that Rapids submitted a bid for a Regional?  I assume with Point as the host school.  Any truth to that?  Could it happen?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BanditUWSP on May 14, 2006, 08:59:03 PM
Trust me on this.  It is more than rumor.  Just waiting for the decision to see if it will happen. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gustie13 on May 15, 2006, 07:17:40 AM
Wow, the brackets are out and no UW Whitewater in regionals (there is a link in the MWC thread). Coe (4th in reg season, winner of IIAC tourney) comes over from the Central region and keeps UWW out. Thats a shame, I think UWW is probably the 4th or 5th best team in the region but AQs from subpar conferences took up 3 spots.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on May 15, 2006, 09:30:30 AM
Congrats to the Warhawks for a great season and winning the regular season conference title. The team did better than many expected. Obvious weakness to me was pitching which hopefully will improve next season as the younger pitchers mature.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 15, 2006, 10:34:19 AM
Congrats and good luck to Stevens Point.  We won the war but they won the battle that counted.   

Not making the national tournament was disappointing.  I know 14 losses is a bit much but we also had 30 wins and we're the defending national champions.  But that wasn't enough for the NCAA.  At any rate we've only ourselves to blame.  We were in the driver's seat and all we had to do was take care of our own business but we didn't.   So it goes.

Realistically the season exceeded most everyone's expectations and next year, unlike this one, we'll be returning 7 of 9 starters and the #1, #2 so the future looks bright for WARHAWK[/color] baseball. 

To Nick Teach, Eddie Adamson and Andrew Keller....thanks for everything.



Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 15, 2006, 11:44:49 AM
NCAA Division III Regional
at Witter Field, Wisconsin Rapids
Wednesday, May 17
Game 1 – 9:30 a.m. - #5 UW-Stevens Point (29-15) vs. #4 St. Scholastica (36-4)
Game 2 – 1 p.m. - #2 St. Olaf (28-8) vs. #7 Dominican (21-19)
Game 3 – 4:30 p.m. - #3 St. Thomas (29-9) vs. #6 Coe (26-17)
Game 4 – 8 p.m. - #1 Ripon (31-5) vs. Game 1 winner
 
Thursday, May 18
Game 5 – 9:30 a.m. - Loser Game 2 vs. Loser Game 3
Game 6 – 1 p.m. - Winner Game 2 vs. Winner Game 3
Game 7 – 4:30 p.m. - Loser Game 4 vs. Winner Game 5
Game 8 – 8 p.m. - Loser Game 1 vs. Loser Game 6
 
Friday, May 19
Game 9 – Noon - Winner Game 4 vs. Winner Game 6
Game 10 – 3:30 p.m. - Winner Game 7 vs. Winner Game 8
Game 11 – 7 p.m. - Loser Game 9 vs. Winner Game 10
 
Saturday, May 20
Game 12 – Noon - Winner Game 9 vs. Winner Game 11
Game 13 – 4 p.m. - if necessary
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 15, 2006, 02:05:48 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 15, 2006, 10:34:19 AM
Realistically the season exceeded most everyone's expectations and next year, unlike this one, we'll be returning 7 of 9 starters and the #1, #2 so the future looks bright for WARHAWK[/color] baseball. 
Just to compare, Oshkosh returns 8 of 9 starters (Josh Shere being the only graduate) and return all but one member of their pitching staff (Jim Ziegler.)

With that said, I would expect Oshkosh to improve on their record from this season, considering all but two players return, including eight freshman that saw significant playing time this season.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 15, 2006, 04:06:01 PM
Don't know if anyone noticed, but the New jersey Athletic Conference received multiple bids for this years NCAA Tournmanent.  Anyone want to take a guess as to how many they recieved?  Not two, not three, but four bids.

It kind of shows you what kind of respect that confernece has when it comes to baseball.  Kind of reminds me of the WIAC and Men's Basketball this season (La Crosse, Whitewater, Stout.)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 16, 2006, 11:56:01 AM
UW-Stevens Point has put up a Regional web site:  http://www.uwsp.edu/athletics/baseball/NCAARegional06.htm
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on May 16, 2006, 09:24:17 PM
I read that their 5th place regular season team got an at-large bid and they didn't even reach the championship game, whereas Whitewater, the regular season champion who got to the championship game twice, didn't get a bid.  Their records were very similar.  I think Whitewater had 30 wins too.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 16, 2006, 11:10:27 PM
Looks like Rowan was 18-9 in-region, 7-5 against regionally ranked teams.
I see UW-Whitewater as 25-10, 0-1 against regionally ranked teams.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 16, 2006, 11:25:17 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 16, 2006, 11:10:27 PM
Looks like Rowan was 18-9 in-region, 7-5 against regionally ranked teams.
I see UW-Whitewater as 25-10, 0-1 against regionally ranked teams.

The Handbook also cites "Results vs In-region Ranked teams".  The fact that Rowan played 12 such games vs one for UW-W also worked to their favor.

Now I can see some WIAC fans complaining about why that doesn't work for them in basketball, but this time it didn't.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: voice on May 17, 2006, 03:00:37 AM
Ralph,
I understand totally what you are saying.  The one hole in the NCAA's in-region philosophy in baseball is teams from the Midwest that travel annually to Florida, Arizona or California for spring games just to fill out their schedules. This year's cast of teams in Phoenix was made up largely of teams from the East.  I talked about this situation with several coaches in Phoenix earlier this year and they all agreed that "in-region" games are totally at the whim of what schools decide on travelling to a certain spring location, be it Arizona, Florida or Caifornia.  I truely believe that the many week-long spring trips to warm weather sites should not be penalized by the archaic  NCAA III "in region" rule.  Division III is Division III isn't it? 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 17, 2006, 03:10:43 AM
Yes, it's Division III, which has an overarching divisionwide philosophy citing regional competition as a point of emphasis. You're not going to change that.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: formerd3db on May 17, 2006, 07:39:44 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 17, 2006, 03:10:43 AM
Yes, it's Division III, which has an overarching divisionwide philosophy citing regional competition as a point of emphasis. You're not going to change that.
Quote from: voice on May 17, 2006, 03:00:37 AM
Ralph,
I understand totally what you are saying.  The one hole in the NCAA's in-region philosophy in baseball is teams from the Midwest that travel annually to Florida, Arizona or California for spring games just to fill out their schedules. This year's cast of teams in Phoenix was made up largely of teams from the East.  I talked about this situation with several coaches in Phoenix earlier this year and they all agreed that "in-region" games are totally at the whim of what schools decide on travelling to a certain spring location, be it Arizona, Florida or Caifornia.  I truely believe that the many week-long spring trips to warm weather sites should not be penalized by the archaic  NCAA III "in region" rule.  Division III is Division III isn't it?

One solution, then, is to have teams from the same region (different conferences) go to those spring site baseball complexes in FL, Arizona or California and play their week long spring games there.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 17, 2006, 08:21:30 AM
I personally would dislike that. I like the idea of going and playing good teams from other regions. You see the people in your region all the time anyway, you can play them up north if you want. Why play them down south too? I understand why, but still don't like it, even though it happens anyway sometimes whether you want it to or not. I feel the same way about playing non Division III competition. A few years back Cortland State started out like 6-7. Well, that was because they were playing very strong Division I and II competition in Ormond Beach.

I dislike that the in-region games are given so much weight, almost as if the rest of the season doesn't even matter.



Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on May 17, 2006, 09:02:24 AM
Quote from: Spence on May 17, 2006, 08:21:30 AM
I personally would dislike that. I like the idea of going and playing good teams from other regions. You see the people in your region all the time anyway,...

Apparently you don't.  Whitewater only played one in-region game vs. a ranked opponent, as Pat pointed out.  Why didn't they play Ripon, like Point did (SP swept them in Ripon and may get to face them in the regional too). 

Anyway, I really didn't take time to look at the in-region records and all that.  Point accomplished an amazing feat by winning three games in less than 9 hours in one day, including back to back games vs. WIAC reg. season champ. and defending national champs Whitewater.  Pretty impressive.  So, I just decided to hop on the baseball site for a look-see.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 17, 2006, 10:58:44 AM
First game of the Regional is underway.  No score after two innings.  Zimmerman is pitching for the Pointers and has struck out 5 of the first 6 CSS batters.
http://www.uwsp.edu/athletics/baseball/NCAAregional/ncaa1.htm
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 17, 2006, 12:35:14 PM
Deja Vu....

It looks like Point is going to have to come back thru the loser's bracket.

CSS 4-3.

Zimmerman pitches a complete game, 13 K, 4 hitter.   But CSS turns a hit batter, walk, wild pitch, single into two runs and gets a pair of solo home runs to pull out the victory.  Point left 10 runners stranded, CSS none. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: formerd3db on May 17, 2006, 09:02:53 PM
Spence:
I can understand your point of view.  Many discussed this earlier in the year as well i.e. DIII teams getting the opporunity to play DII and even DI teams if they desire.  Personally, I like that as well, yet as Pat pointed out, the NCAA has made their policy on this a long time ago and it will continue, despite some of us perhaps not liking it.

Again, you have a valid point; yet I was also only suggesting that option might be a consideration for perhaps some of the teams, say in the southern regions who might not have the opportunity to play other division teams, and that might help them in this regional aspect.  On the other hand, the obvious best way for many teams is to just win your conference's AQ (if they give one) - many teams here in the Great Lakes area go for that, while still being able to get in a few games against DI and/or DII teams during the regular season.  But, admittedly, a team takes a chance doing it that way if for some reason they falter in their conference's tourney to get the AQ, thereby having to rely on an "at large" bid and thus, these regional aspects come into play for consideration for some teams.  Indeed a dilemma for some coaches, but every program has to decide how they want to "handle this" as far as scheduling.  Thanks to all for this interesing discussion and your opinions.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 18, 2006, 12:49:18 AM
Old School, a lot of the UW-Whitewater in-region record vs. ranked teams is owed to the fact that they were the only ranked team in the WIAC this year. Oshkosh wasn't, Stevens Point wasn't. The WIAC plays 4 game series for conference meetings. So that's 24 games right there. The only northern non-conference series UW-Whitewater played were against Lawrence and Concordia. I don't know why they didn't play Ripon, maybe it wasn't UW-W? I don't know.

They played Augsburg, North Central, Johns Hopkins, MIT, Southern Maine, Gustavus, Williams, and N.C. Wesleyan in Arizona. There's two former national champions and a couple of other solid programs in that list. There's absolutely no shame in that schedule.

UWW got penalized for playing Stout and Superior 4 times, their own slow start (8-6, albeit against the aforementioned schedule) and for the perceived downness of the WIAC (was UWO ranked at all this year?). All of this said, I think Stevens Point was the better team. Out of seven meetings, Whitewater went 3-4, winning two while being outhit 15-7 and 12-6. Aggregate score was 67-40 UWSP. UWSP outhit Whitewater 6 of the 7 games, none at Stevens Point. Them winning the WIAC was not an upset, it was a correction from anomaly.

I think UWW played a better schedule and made a better show of themselves in a tougher conference than tournament than at least one Pool C team that made the field.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: RR_Dad on May 18, 2006, 10:32:18 AM
Sorry, but I think it is time for the UWW fans to stop whining and just enjoy the  tourney!
;)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 18, 2006, 11:20:03 AM
Quote from: RR_Dad on May 18, 2006, 10:32:18 AM
Sorry, but I think it is time for the UWW fans to stop whining and just enjoy the  tourney!
;)

Easy to say when your team is playing...
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 18, 2006, 11:38:03 AM
We can only blame ourselves for leaving the decision up to the selection committee. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 18, 2006, 12:51:30 PM
2006 All-WIAC Baseball Team
First Team
Name, School, Year, Position, Hometown (High School)
Eddie Adamson, Whitewater, Senior, Utility, Wheaton, Ill.
Justin Bach, La Crosse, Senior, Secondbase, Wisconsin Rapids (Lincoln)
Ross Bennett, Platteville, Sophomore, Outfield, Mequon (Homestead)
Chuck Brehm, Stevens Point, Senior, Centerfield, Spencer
Adam Dominick, Whitewater, Sophomore, Righthanded Pitcher, Waukesha (West)
Adam Evanoff, Stevens Point, Junior, Firstbase, Plover (SPASH)
Mike Flood, Platteville, Junior, Catcher, Madison (LaFollette)
Jake Frombach, Stevens Point, Senior, Shortstop, Stratford
Mike Jacobson, Whitewater, Sophomore, Lefthanded Pitcher, Oak Creek
Matt Krause, Stout, Sophomore, Catcher, Bonduel
Seth Maier, Stout, Junior, Shortstop, Park Falls
Josh Perkins, Stevens Point, Senior, Righthanded Pitcher, Two Rivers
Andy Podmolik, La Crosse, Junior, Centerfield, Phillips
Ben Prather, Whitewater, Sophomore, Outfield, Shaumburg, Ill. (Conant)
Tim Schneider, Stout, Sophomore, Centerfield, West Salem (Onalaska Lutheran)
Bryan Schwebke, Oshkosh, Junior, Outfield, Oshkosh (West)
Josh Shere, Oshkosh, Senior, Shortstop, Janesville (Craig)
Jordan Stine, Whitewater, Freshman, Outfield, Merrill
Jim Ziegler, Oshkosh, Senior, Righthanded Pitcher, Eden (Campbellsport)
Jordan Zimmermann, Stevens Point, Sophomore, Righthanded Pitcher, Auburndale

Honorable Mention
Joe Bemis, La Crosse, Senior, Righthanded Pitcher, Stoughton
Adam Bretl, Oshkosh, Junior, Righthanded Pitcher, Sturgeon Bay (Southern Door)
Brandon Burgert, Oshkosh, Sophomore, Catcher, Oshkosh (West)
Doug Coe, Stevens Point, Junior, Catcher, Appleton (North)
Scott Decker, Stout, Junior, Righthanded Pitcher, Eau Claire (Memorial)
Steve Ems, La Crosse, Junior, Thirdbase, Waterford (Union)
Mickey Fadness, Oshkosh, Freshman, Secondbase, Eau Claire (Memorial)
Ryan Hopkins, Stevens Point, Junior, Righthanded Pitcher, Libertyville, Ill. (Carmel)
Tony Peterson, La Crosse, Junior, Firstbase/Designated Hitter, Savage, Minn. (Burnsville)
Adam Roos, Oshkosh, Junior, Righthanded Pitcher, Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada (Hammarskjold)
Luke Schultz, Stout, Junior, Secondbase, Menomonie
John Stetzenbach, La Crosse, Senior, Shortstop, Waukesha (Wisconsin Lutheran)
Billy Tafs, Superior, Sophomore, Outfield, Hermantown, Minn.
Nick Teach, Whitewater, Senior, Infield, New Berlin (Eisenhower)
Jason Watson, Platteville, Senior, Thirdbase, Boscobel
Matt Zurbriggen, La Crosse, Senior, Righthanded Pitcher, Onalaska

Position Player of the Year: Chuck Brehm of Stevens Point
Pitcher of the Year: Jordan Zimmermann of Stevens Point
Max Sparger Scholar-Athlete: John Stetzenbach of La Crosse
Coach of the Year: Chris Schwarz of La Crosse

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: John Gleich on May 18, 2006, 10:18:38 PM
Point's really starting to pour it on...

Coe........................... 002 -  2  2  0
UW-Stevens Point.... 136 - 10  7  2


In Point's 3rd,

UW-Stevens Point 3rd - Coe doubled to center field. Schlosser flied out to
rf. Zimmermann grounded out to c; Coe advanced to third. Coe scored on a wild pitch.Scheidler walked. Frombach walked; Scheidler advanced to second. Richter walked;Frombach advanced to second; Scheidler advanced to third. Brehm hit by pitch, RBI;Richter advanced to second; Frombach advanced to third; Scheidler scored. Byrnes homered to right center, 4 RBI; Brehm scored; Richter scored; Frombach scored. Springer to p for Hunt. Evanoff struck out. 6 runs, 2 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB.

Nothin' like a wild pitch, 3 straight walks and a hit batter for 2 RBI's... and then giving up a grand slam!  Thanks Coe!

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: John Gleich on May 19, 2006, 09:27:57 PM
After ending St. Thomas' season 6-2 earlier today, they're up on St. Olaf 9-3 in the 5th.  If things hold, then it looks like another double header against Ripon (of course, with a must-win in the first game... but all of these have been must-wins).  Point already took two games from the Eagles earlier this season.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 20, 2006, 11:50:39 AM
PS,

Maybe the Red Hawks will be tougher competition than the Eagles.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: voice on May 20, 2006, 09:41:06 PM
For the second week in a row Stevens Point comes through the losers bracket winning two on the final day to advance to the NCAA III World Series. The Pointers beat top-seeded Ripon 7-4 in today's first game and 6-4 in the championship game to send Point to Appleton next week. Chuck Brehm's two-run homer in the bottom of the eighth inning did the dastardly deed against Ripon.  Point beat Ripon all four games between the two teams this season.

Good luck Point, you have gotten hot at exactly the right time!
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: John Gleich on May 21, 2006, 01:23:32 AM
Eagles, Red Hawks... if it was a WIAC team, then I'd really sound bad... but I haven't really followed the MWC much (in anything) and we only played them once in basketball...  :P

Good luck to Point in Appleton!  Is the World Series a double elim like the conference tourney and regional?  Point's got plenty of experience!

From the UWSP website... Point has win 9 straight elimination games in the last week.  That's just awesome!
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: titan2000 on May 21, 2006, 11:21:13 AM
See you'all at the Wooden Nickel
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 21, 2006, 12:57:33 PM
I thought this was a down year for the WIAC?? ;)  Any year your conference gets a team to the world series, I would hardly call that a down year. Congratulations to Stevens Point. Maybe a bit overrated at the beginning of the season, but now showing why they were a preseason top 10 team.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 21, 2006, 09:41:35 PM
Quote from: REDMENFAN on May 21, 2006, 12:57:33 PM
I thought this was a down year for the WIAC?? ;) 
I'll take my crow warm.  Waht can I say, Point definitely surprised me.  I guess I put too much stock in Point beiong swept 4 games by an "average" Oshkosh team.

I will admit when I am wrong, something I seem to be doing a lot lately. ;D
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: John Gleich on May 22, 2006, 12:22:22 AM
Anyone know anything about the other 7 teams?  How are Point's chances?

They've had pretty hot bats this post season, and their pitching has been pretty darn good (to say the least).  Have they got what it takes to keep the NCAA title in Wisconsin?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 22, 2006, 08:04:33 AM
Quote from: PointSpecial on May 22, 2006, 12:22:22 AM
They've had pretty hot bats this post season 
Keep in mind however that those fly balls they were hitting in Rapids that turned out to be HR's, will be nothing more than outs at Fox Cities Stadium.  Their offense revolves around the longball, which is going to be tougher to hit in Appleton than it was the past two weekends in Rapids.

As far as their pitching goes, Zimmerman is absolutely lights out right now.  With him on the mound the first game, I think they have a definite chance of beating traditional power Marietta in a 3-2, 2-1 type game.  Should be interesting!!!
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on May 22, 2006, 08:37:13 PM
I don't know much about baseball or the WIAC baesball for that matter, but it did seem like it was down a little.  I mean, Whitewater didn't even get an at-large bid, something they got last year on their way to the World Series title.  I didn't hear much from Oshkosh either and Point really didn't turn it on until the post season.  If you go to the Point baseball webpage, there is a link to the college world series, which is run through the Oshkosh webpage...so I guess you could just go there too!

Anyway, Point has 16 losses (I think) and that was the most by any team in the field, I believe.  They play at at 7:45 on Friday, as the last game in the first round.  If I get real bored, I might go over.

I don't know anything about the other teams...let alone the Point team! lol.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on May 23, 2006, 10:58:05 AM
Fox Sports North will be airing the WIAC championship game on Thursday, according to the WIAC homepage.

Check it out (http://www.uwsa.edu/wiac/baseball/06champbroadcast.html)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 23, 2006, 01:11:56 PM
No thanks, I saw the game once and that was enough for me. ;)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on May 24, 2006, 10:15:56 PM
HERE (http://www.uwsp.edu/athletics/baseball/2006/baseballseriesnotes06.pdf) is some information on the World Series teams, according to a review on the Stevens Point Pointer website.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: titan2000 on May 27, 2006, 03:27:20 PM
Point 9th inning bunt gaffe vs. Marietta was embarrassing. 

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: John Gleich on May 27, 2006, 04:22:18 PM
Not nearly as embarrassing as (fill in a pot shot at either Lawrence or UWO, whichever school Titan2k is supporting this week).

Oh, by the way, Point is up 5-0 on Aurora in the middle of the 4th.  I believe they're in a rain delay.  They've definately got experience with elimination games.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on May 27, 2006, 10:53:47 PM
Quote from: PointSpecial on May 27, 2006, 04:22:18 PM
Not nearly as embarrassing as (fill in a pot shot at either Lawrence or UWO, whichever school Titan2k is supporting this week).

Come on PointSpecial...no pot shots are possible since neither Lawrence nor UWO are playing.  Be nice. lol.  ;D :P :D

After a 35 minute rain delay, Point spanks Aurora 12-3, setting up another elimination game tomorrow at noon.

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on May 28, 2006, 11:06:42 PM
Point finally loses an elimination game, going down to Wheaton 5-4.  Great post season run for the Pointers...now to concentrate on the World Cup! lol.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on September 07, 2006, 01:21:40 PM
Platteville names new head coach, Eric Frese.  Well, actually Platteville didn't name him Eric Frese, they named him the new head baseball coach. ;)

http://www.uwsa.edu/wiac/baseball/ericfrese.html
Title: Preseason predictions??
Post by: BigPoppa on January 09, 2007, 01:17:26 PM
What are the thoughts of the WIACers?

Here is how I see it:
1. Stevens Point
2. Whitewater
3. Oshkosh
4. Lacrosse
5. Platteville
6. ???
7. ???
8. ???

Can anybody help me with their thoughts?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on January 11, 2007, 03:12:26 PM
I like:

1. Point
2. Whitewater
3. La Crosse
4. Oshkosh
5. Platteville
6. Stout
7. Superior

Big Poppa, unfortunately if you are looking for an 8th place team you'll have to go back in time a few years.  *sigh*
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 11, 2007, 05:56:31 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on January 11, 2007, 03:12:26 PM
I like:

1. Point
2. Whitewater
3. La Crosse
4. Oshkosh
5. Platteville
6. Stout
7. Superior

Big Poppa, unfortunately if you are looking for an 8th place team you'll have to go back in time a few years.  *sigh*

Thanks... I forgot that they are only a seven team conference. I sure do miss those Bluegolds!
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on January 12, 2007, 06:28:42 AM
I pretty much agree with you guys. I never count Oshkosh out, and I'm thinking Platteville may fool some people this year with their new field ready to go.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 15, 2007, 12:21:07 PM
Quote from: OshDude on January 15, 2007, 12:44:32 AM
The standings will be the same as they always are. Point, Whitewater and Oshkosh, in some order, the top three teams with a wild card thrown in there. I don't think La Crosse will be that team this year. It's too much to replace half of last year's starts with the graduation of Bemis and Zurbriggen, though the soft-tossing combo of Peterson and Benitz was good last year. Totally different Eagles team this year.
Judging solely on returning players, here is how I see it. Once again, Whitewater and Point cleaned up on the top in-state recruits, at least on paper and reputation of the players. Most of the WBCA Classic players who are going to WIAC schools are going to those two.
1. Point
2. Oshkosh
3. Whitewater
4. Stout
5. Platteville
6. La Crosse
7. Superior

--Point just reloaded. Everyone up the middle except Doug Coe is gone, but you know the Pointers will score. The biggest loss is probably Perkins, but that only means Hempstead, Kempf and Thrun get more innings. Nothing wrong with that if your a Pointer fan. They will be tough to beat. This time, even before elimination games.
--Oshkosh, even with Ziegler gone, has a ton of arms. No other team has the quantity of quality pitchers Oshkosh has. They are not Zimmerman, but Roos, Stanke, Hendricks, Bretl, Michaliewicz, Bolton and the rest of the staff are no slouches. Whoever plays shortstop will be vital to any success the Titans have.
--Whitewater is finally without Keller, Teach and Adamson. Seems like they had been around forever. The Warhawks' pitching, while good, is not great. While a very, very good team, I see better teams at Point and Oshkosh. Unless they have at least one stud freshman pitcher, the 'Hawks are down a peg this year.
--Ross Bennett will hit a bunch of bombs, but Platteville loses a lot of familiar names and most of its infield. Aspensen and Slaght are big pitching losses. If Bulaga can anchor the staff and Connelly and Athey become more consistent, Platteville should be OK. The Pioneers will put up a lot of crooked numbers. Whichever team wins the PV/Stout season series is the four-seed.
--The Stout offense should be awesome. Crazy talent with Maier and the rest of the rakers. Its pitching should not be awesome. Anything can happen with that combination. That's why I like the Blue Devils. It's always an oddball as the fourth team, and I was impressed with Stout at the end of last season.
--Superior? Um, no. It's a coin flip whether the Yellowjackets get a WIAC win this season. That program is a mess.


Osh Dude- great preview of the WIAC for us. Thanks! It certainly is a conference of the have and the have-nots! It is one of the nations best conferences, but the weakness of the bottom teams keeps it from being the top dog. The WIAC has multiple national titles, but only among two programs, Oshkosh and Whitewater.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on January 19, 2007, 10:52:41 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on January 11, 2007, 05:56:31 PM
Thanks... I forgot that they are only a seven team conference. I sure do miss those Bluegolds!

And the Falcons.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 01, 2007, 03:18:27 PM
If you had to put together an all-time team for each WIAC school, who makes the cut for each school?

Anybody close to the programs have some thoughts?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 01, 2007, 07:46:53 PM
I'll take a stab at Oshkosh's all-time team. Seems like a fun diversion. With rare exception, I'm going with the guys I have seen in person (1987-present). The others just have to be the team.

P Jarrod Washburn (mid 90s)
P Troy Cota (early 80s)
P Craig Glysch (late 90s)
P Andy Kimball (mid 90s)
P Jordan Timm (early 00s)
C Kevin Murdock (mid 80s)
1B Craig Lieder (mid 90s)
2B Jeremy Jirschele (mid 00s)
3B Aaron Richartz (early 90s)
SS Tim Jorgensen (mid 90s -- best position player of all-time?)
OF Jeff Zappa (mid 90s)
OF Terry Jorgensen (mid 80s)
OF Scott Mann (early 90s)
DH Pat McDonald (late 80s)

Honorable Mention: OF Vince Mancuso (early 00s); C Casey Kopitzke (late 90s); UTIL Chris Delarwelle (late 80s); 2B Don Garvey (early 90s); OF Tom Jeremko (early 80s); OF Erik Morrell (late 90s); SS Kevin Reichardt (mid 80s); 2B Brian Bott (mid 90s); SS Jeff Carl (early 80s); P Todd Evers (late 80s); SS Bruce Schreiber (late 80s); 1B Rusty Tiedemann (mid 80s); 3B Lee Wetenkamp (late 70s).
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 01, 2007, 08:28:39 PM
Quote from: OshDude on February 01, 2007, 07:46:53 PM
I'll take a stab at Oshkosh's all-time team. Seems like a fun diversion. With rare exception, I'm going with the guys I have seen in person (1987-present). The others just have to be the team.

P Jarrod Washburn (mid 90s)
P Troy Cota (early 80s)
P Craig Glysch (late 90s)
P Andy Kimball (mid 90s)
P Jordan Timm (early 00s)
C Kevin Murdock (mid 80s)
1B Craig Lieder (mid 90s)
2B Jeremy Jirschele (mid 00s)
3B Aaron Richartz (early 90s)
SS Tim Jorgensen (mid 90s -- best position player of all-time?)
OF Jeff Zappa (mid 90s)
OF Terry Jorgensen (mid 80s)
OF Scott Mann (early 90s)
DH Pat McDonald (late 80s)

Honorable Mention: OF Vince Mancuso (early 00s); C Casey Kopitzke (late 90s); UTIL Chris Delarwelle (late 80s); 2B Don Garvey (early 90s); OF Tom Jeremko (early 80s); OF Erik Morrell (late 90s); SS Kevin Reichardt (mid 80s); 2B Brian Bott (mid 90s); SS Jeff Carl (early 80s); P Todd Evers (late 80s); SS Bruce Schreiber (late 80s); 1B Rusty Tiedemann (mid 80s); 3B Lee Wetenkamp (late 70s).


That is a heck of a list of talent. I would guess that they were each all-americans as well? I doubt that any D3 team can match the talent that UW-O has pushed through its system. Many of those players might end up on the NCAA's all-time list as well.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 01, 2007, 08:58:17 PM
Poppa,
All except Murdock at were All-Americans. I chose him over catchers who were All-Americans, though. My first team of 14 players has combined for 24 All-American seasons. That even includes 19 seasons for players on my list not named Jorgensen.
I could have stacked the team even better as Oshkosh has had 58 total All-American seasons (by my count).
I even left a bunch of Oshkosh greats off the list like Jim Gantner, Gary Varsho, Jack Taschner, Doe Boyland, Aaron Luepke, Mike Gasper, etc.
It really is an amazing program with a great tradition.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 01, 2007, 09:01:50 PM
Quote from: OshDude on February 01, 2007, 08:58:17 PM

I even left a bunch of Oshkosh greats off the list like Jim Gantner, Gary Varsho, Jack Taschner, Doe Boyland, Aaron Luepke, Mike Gasper, etc.
It really is an amazing program with a great tradition.

Tough to leave 3 big-league players off the team, but it is still a solid team even without them. How many other D3 programs have at least 5 major leaguers (Terry Jorgensen-Twins, Gary Varsho-Cubs, Jarrod Washburn-Angels/Mariners, Jim Gantner- Brewers, Jack Taschner- Giants)? It might be tough for any program to match that one.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 01, 2007, 09:51:02 PM
Tough to leave 3 big-league players off the team, but it is still a solid team even without them. How many other D3 programs have at least 5 major leaguers (Terry Jorgensen-Twins, Gary Varsho-Cubs, Jarrod Washburn-Angels/Mariners, Jim Gantner- Brewers, Jack Taschner- Giants)?
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That's not even all of them. Doe Boyland, Jim Magnuson and Dan Neumeier also made the bigs.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 02, 2007, 10:04:13 AM
Here is a list I found with (suposedly) the Wisconsin schools that had MLB players. Beloit suprised me.
Beloit College (7)
Cardinal Stritch University (1)
Carthage College (1)

Marquette University (1)
Ripon College (1)
University of Wisconsin-La Crosse (5)

University of Wisconsin-Madison (26)
University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh (8)
University of Wisconsin-Stevens Point (1)

University of Wisconsin-Superior (1)
University of Wisconsin-Whitewater (2)
Viterbo University (1)

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 02, 2007, 11:24:47 AM
Quote from: OshDude on February 01, 2007, 07:46:53 PM
Honorable Mention: OF Vince Mancuso (early 00s); UTIL Chris Delarwelle (late 80s);
Both Delarwelle and Mancuso were National POY's and yet they can't crack your 1st team?  Hmmmm......
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 02, 2007, 11:36:39 AM
Quote from: cubs on February 02, 2007, 11:24:47 AM
Quote from: OshDude on February 01, 2007, 07:46:53 PM
Honorable Mention: OF Vince Mancuso (early 00s); UTIL Chris Delarwelle (late 80s);
Both Delarwelle and Mancuso were National POY's and yet they can't crack your 1st team?  Hmmmm......

OshDude has a tough task ahead of him with all the talent at UW-O.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 02, 2007, 12:35:03 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on February 02, 2007, 11:36:39 AM
Quote from: cubs on February 02, 2007, 11:24:47 AM
Quote from: OshDude on February 01, 2007, 07:46:53 PM
Honorable Mention: OF Vince Mancuso (early 00s); UTIL Chris Delarwelle (late 80s);
Both Delarwelle and Mancuso were National POY's and yet they can't crack your 1st team?  Hmmmm......
OshDude has a tough task ahead of him with all the talent at UW-O.
Even with all that talent, UWO has only won the National POY four times (by three different players, Tim Jorgensen twice) which would make one think that all three of those guys would be locks for UWO's all time team.  Heck, I believe Mancuso played four different positions in his four years at UWO (3B, C, LF, and DH) surely he could be listed at one of those spots over someone on that list. ::)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 03, 2007, 11:10:31 AM
Quote from: OshDude on February 02, 2007, 10:22:25 PM
Cubs,
That's why we have opinions...express yours with your own team. I won't even take potshots like you do with my posts.
I'm not taking a "pot-shot" at you.....  Just because I think two guys should be on there doesn't mean I'm taking a shot at you.

Also, remember that guys like Mancuso, Kopitzke, and Parnell used wood bats for one season, (1999 I believe) so that affected their all time numbers when comparing them to the other All time greats at UWO.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 03, 2007, 11:40:36 AM
I'll give it a try
3b Rick Birkholz
2b Don Garvey
ss Jim Gantner
1b Chris Delarwelle
c  Kevin Murdock
of Lynn Held
of Vince Mancuso
of Terry Jorgensen
p  Jordan Timm
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 03, 2007, 04:04:56 PM
Flash,
You went old school on me with a few picks. Did you see any of the older guys play? Wish I could have seen Gantner. Can you give me anything on Birkholz and Held? I never saw them either.
I can't argue with the rest except Mancuso over Zappa or Mann for the reason I stated and no Tim Jorgensen? That's a bold opinion!
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 03, 2007, 07:10:44 PM
Just going on what I saw, for the most part. Held turned out to be a good friend of mine through couching in later years, he played with Gantner. I have no realistic knowledge, just thought I'd give you an oldtimers glimpze. I'm totally impressed whith you guys and your knowledge of UWO baseball. There is indeed another generation coming up,
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 03, 2007, 07:16:25 PM
Quote from: janesvilleflash on February 03, 2007, 07:10:44 PM
Just going on what I saw, for the most part. Held turned out to be a good friend of mine through couching in later years, he played with Gantner.

I am assuming that you meant to say COACHING, but I have a vast array of friends who I now COUCH with as well... especially on Superbowl Sunday.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 03, 2007, 07:57:56 PM
I'm old, but not that old, yes coaching. Thanks.

Now that I think of it, I will be doing some "couching" for the super bowl too!!
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 04, 2007, 05:10:55 AM
Oshdude- I know what you mean about Tim Jorgensen, but I just couldn't leave Gantner off. If it makes you feel better, I will concede Jorgensen had a better arm.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 04, 2007, 11:13:24 AM
The one thing that truly shows the depth of players at UW-O is the fact that Craig Leider's name has never even been brought up. There was nothing worse than facing Zappa, Jorgensen and Leider in the 2, 3, and 4 holes in the the 1995 World Series, and then seeing Jarrod Washburn on the mound that day. One of the worst days of my life. We battled back to beat Marrietta and Cortland on back to back days, but ran out of juice against eventual national champion Methodist.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 04, 2007, 09:36:42 PM
Poppa,
That team was something else. I did have Lieder on my all-time team. In fact, I had all four of those guys on my team.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 04, 2007, 11:23:45 PM
Quote from: OshDude on February 04, 2007, 09:36:42 PM
Poppa,
That team was something else. I did have Lieder on my all-time team. In fact, I had all four of those guys on my team.

I still have no idea how that team did not win the title. Second place had to be a huge disappointment for them.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: srpoint on February 06, 2007, 09:52:52 AM
UW-Stevens Point All-Time Team
I have been following UWSP for the past 15 years, so I apologize if someone before that I missed on this team.  It did not follow Point when they won 10 games a year, wow things have changed the past 10 years! Not quite as impressive as UW-O, but a pretty good team.
I could not come up with a catcher, ss, 2b / maybe someone else can put some names for this?
Because the Pointers can always hit I put in three DH's!!

DH - Gary Kostuchowski - mid 90's
DH - Steve Wiczek - mid 00's (because of one year)
DH/1b - Ryan Jones - early 00's
1b - Chris Berndt - mid-late 90's
3b - Paul Molitor - early 00's
OF - Chuck Brehm - early 00's
OF - Brian Nelson - mid-late 90's
OF - Randy - early 00's
P - Chris Simonson - mid-late 90's
P - Bill Verbrick - early 00's
P - Jordan Zimmerman - still playing

ANY OTHERS?

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 06, 2007, 10:45:35 AM
Quote from: srpoint on February 06, 2007, 09:52:52 AM
I could not come up with a catcher, ss, 2b / maybe someone else can put some names for this?
SS-Jake Frombach-All time Hits leader at Point
RP-Jared Szews-All time Saves leader at Point
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 13, 2007, 02:59:06 PM
WW fans may be interested in this.

Bruce Levine of ESPN1000 and Rotoworld are reporting the Cubs have sent Jae-kuk Ryu to the Tampa Bay Devil Rays for prospects RHP Greg Reinhard and OF Andy Lopez (thanks to reader Bogey for the tip). That should clear off the 40-man roster spot needed to add Cliff Floyd.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: NCWC on February 13, 2007, 07:39:41 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on February 04, 2007, 11:13:24 AM
The one thing that truly shows the depth of players at UW-O is the fact that Craig Leider's name has never even been brought up. There was nothing worse than facing Zappa, Jorgensen and Leider in the 2, 3, and 4 holes in the the 1995 World Series, and then seeing Jarrod Washburn on the mound that day. One of the worst days of my life. We battled back to beat Marrietta and Cortland on back to back days, but ran out of juice against eventual national champion Methodist.


Big Poppa I was reading this earlier and saw the Methodist and national champion words together.  I spilled my drink.  Methodist was runner up that year, I believe La Verne won it all.  Just didn't want Methodist to get that credit.  You know how rivalries are.   ;)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 13, 2007, 08:35:55 PM
Quote from: NCWC on February 13, 2007, 07:39:41 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on February 04, 2007, 11:13:24 AM
The one thing that truly shows the depth of players at UW-O is the fact that Craig Leider's name has never even been brought up. There was nothing worse than facing Zappa, Jorgensen and Leider in the 2, 3, and 4 holes in the the 1995 World Series, and then seeing Jarrod Washburn on the mound that day. One of the worst days of my life. We battled back to beat Marrietta and Cortland on back to back days, but ran out of juice against eventual national champion Methodist.


Big Poppa I was reading this earlier and saw the Methodist and national champion words together.  I spilled my drink.  Methodist was runner up that year, I believe La Verne won it all.  Just didn't want Methodist to get that credit.  You know how rivalries are.   ;)

You are right... thanks for the correction.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: NCWC on February 14, 2007, 12:38:44 AM
No problem
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on February 22, 2007, 03:35:30 PM
Well it's finally arriving.  Platteville officially kicks of the WIAC nonconference schedule with games against Rockford and Westminster (MO) in Fulton, Mo.

WARHAWKS take the field 3/2 with a double hitter against Edgewood in the Metrodome.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on February 23, 2007, 11:43:43 AM
Arrgh!  Platteville gets rained out in Missouri before they even get there:  http://www.uwplatt.edu/athletics/baseball/2007/2-22games.html

Just another spring baseball season in Wisconsin.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Harrier on February 24, 2007, 07:49:53 PM
Quote from: OshDude on February 24, 2007, 01:13:33 AM

AUTOS
(Men)
Bobby Riley (La Crosse) shot - 55-11 (2nd in D3 this season)
La Crosse DMR - 10:00.56 (best in D3 this season)

(Women)
*Katie Fondow (La Crosse) LJ - 19-0 (best in D3 this season)
*Jena Durnin (La Crosse) LJ - 18-10 1/2 (2nd in D3 this season)

PROVOS
(Men)
*Dan Herms (Whitewater) LJ - 23-8 3/4 (best in D3 this season, missed auto by 1/4)
*Clint Christy (River Falls) LJ - 22-10 1/2
Mark Cufaude (Stevens Point) PV - 15-3 3/4
Kyle Steiner (Stevens Point) HJ - 6-9
Oshkosh DMR - 10:04.43
Adam Baumann (Stevens Point) 55m hurdles - 7.74
Jamar Jackson (La Crosse) 55m hurdles - 7.74
Paul Moran (La Crosse) 5,000 - 14:49.28
David Kolbe (La Crosse) 400 - 49.48
A.J. Hollanquest (Oshkosh) 55 - 6.45

(Women)
Jessica Scott (Platteville) 800 - 2:16.65
Nikki Cahen (La Crosse) 5,000 - 17:38.25
Jenny Graef (Oshkosh) 5,000 - 17:40.76
Beth Lutz (Eau Claire) 5,000 - 17:44.11
Lyndsey Thoma (Oshkosh) HJ - 5-5 3/4
*THE OTHER JUMPERS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED EXCEPT KOPESKY

* Maybe...

Does the WICA dominate any other D3 sport like they do track & field?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 27, 2007, 09:25:18 PM
something to do while waiting for the season to start.
http://www.rawlingsgoldglove.com/Voting/Default.aspx
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 27, 2007, 09:26:43 PM
here's my picks

Pitcher:Kaat, Jim
Catcher:Rodriguez, Ivan
First Base:Snow, J.T.
Second Base:Richardson, Bobby
Third Base:Rolen, Scott
Shortstop:Smith, Ozzie
Outfield:Clemente, Roberto
Outfield:Kaline, Al
Outfield:Mays, Willie
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 05, 2007, 09:15:44 AM
Whitewater opens their season with a DH split against Edgewood College at the Metrodome.  They won the opener 4-2, and dropped the nightcap 2-0.

Here are the boxscores:
http://www.uww.edu/athletics/mbaseball/statistics/ecbb3021.htm (Game 1)
http://www.uww.edu/athletics/mbaseball/statistics/ecbb3022.htm (Game 2)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 07, 2007, 07:33:07 AM
Quote from: janesvilleflash on February 27, 2007, 09:26:43 PM
here's my picks; and here are mine

Pitcher:Kaat, Jim
Catcher:Rodriguez, Ivan
First Base:Snow, J.T. Mattingly
Second Base:Richardson, Bobby
Third Base:Rolen, Scott  Brooks Robinson
Shortstop:Smith, Ozzie
Outfield:Clemente, Roberto
Outfield:Kaline, Al    Junior
Outfield:Mays, Willie

Thanks for posting that, except we are in the middle of a great season in Texas.  :D
Title: Zimmerman
Post by: Jcon2134 on March 07, 2007, 10:24:53 AM
Why did jordan zimmerman not play in either of the 1st two gams fo Wisconsin stevens point he did not DH or pitch is is hurt?
Title: Re: Zimmerman
Post by: Just Bill on March 07, 2007, 10:56:06 AM
Zimmerman took a line drive to the face a couple of weeks ago in practice.  He is expected to return during the Pointers' trip to Florida in two weeks.
Title: Re: Zimmerman
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 07, 2007, 08:14:33 PM
Quote from: Jcon2134 on March 07, 2007, 10:24:53 AM
Why did jordan zimmerman not play in either of the 1st two gams fo Wisconsin stevens point he did not DH or pitch is is hurt?
Jcon, I will move this topic into the WIAC board where more interested parties are likely to see it.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on March 08, 2007, 07:47:07 AM
Sorry Ralph. Since that was the only post in here for 6 days, just thought we needed something to talk about.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on March 09, 2007, 11:17:40 AM
Warhawk website mentions 3 DI transfers....anyone know who the three are and where they transferred from?

http://www.uww.edu/athletics/news_events/2007_03_07_MBaseball_SeasonPre.html
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on March 09, 2007, 05:24:57 PM
Quote from: Barber Greene on March 09, 2007, 11:17:40 AM
Warhawk website mentions 3 DI transfers....anyone know who the three are and where they transferred from?

http://www.uww.edu/athletics/news_events/2007_03_07_MBaseball_SeasonPre.html

Well doing a little detective work and comparing the roster to last year's, I came up with:

1) Jake Wasechek- U of Illinois-Chicago
2) Ben Kuhlmann- Valparaiso
3) Kale Olson- Creighton
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 10, 2007, 02:18:10 PM
WARHAWKS take a pair from Augsburg College 7-6 and 3-1. 

In game one WHITEWATER got up 5-0 after two innings but lost the lead when Augsburg scored 2 in the fifth and 4 more in the top of the seventh.   However the WARHAWKS rallied back for a pair in the bottom of the inning, the game winner scoring on a fielder's choice.  DH Ben Kuhlmann led the way going 1x3 with 3 RBIs while LF Ben Prather drove in a pair going 1x3 at the plate.  Adam Dominick started and went five innings surrendering 2 runs (0 ER) and striking out six.  Mike Kenseth (1-0) got the win in relief.

Augsburg led most of game two 1-0 before the WARHAWKS tied the game when Kuhlman hit a solo home run in the sixth inning and won with a pair of runs in the seventh, the winning run scoring on a throwing error.   Kuhlman and Matt Schliewe each had RBIs for the WARHAWKS.  Mike Jacobson picked up his second win of the season a complete game, 5 hitter with 7k. 

WARHAWKS improve to 3-1 and are idle till 3/17 when we host Wheaton for a pair.  I'll be amazed if the field is playable.   Rain is forecast for Tuesday and Thursday.  Add the melting snow and there's going to be a ton of water to get rid of.   
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 12, 2007, 01:00:43 PM
Badgerwarhawk-
I was looking through some of the WIAC rosters and noticed Justin Shere is listed on UWO's.  I could have sworn I saw him on a different roster earlier in the year, maybe Whitewater's?  Just curious if he is following his older brother Josh's lead by transferring back and forth.... ;)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on March 12, 2007, 02:28:41 PM
I think he was on the LAX roster last year.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 12, 2007, 02:51:15 PM
Justin Schere was on LaCrosse's roster last year.  But he only appeared in 2 games with 2 at bats for the season.   To my knowledge he hasn't been on our roster.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: titan2000 on March 13, 2007, 08:59:56 PM
LaX sucks, he made a good move.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 18, 2007, 06:38:42 PM
Point drops a pair of one-run games to two quality opponents to open up thier Florida trip.  They lost to Rowan 7-6 and Wooster 8-7 in 11 innings.  No box scores available yet.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 19, 2007, 10:51:11 AM
The WARHAWKS Saturday doublehitter with Wheaton College was cancelled.

For anyone interested in a preview of the WARHAWKS......http://www.uww.edu/athletics/mbaseball/2007%20baseball%20preseason.doc

WARHAWKS get preseason nod from SIDs, Pointer close second......http://www.uwsa.edu/wiac/baseball/2007prev.html

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Mr. Downtown on March 19, 2007, 06:35:56 PM
QuoteLaX sucks, he made a good move.

I laughed a good 5 minutes after reading this.

Seriously, who says something like that? lol...funny stuff.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 20, 2007, 09:11:38 AM
Anyone happen to know the status of Catcher Doug Coe at UWSP?  I noticed he was pinch hit for in the bottom of the 4th inning in a 22-13 victory over Manchester College.  Normally I wouldn't think much of it, but I noticed the last out in the Top of the 4th was on a play at the plate.  Thought there may have been a collision or something but obviously you can only get so much from a boxscore.

Also noticed that Jordan Zimmerman is scheduled to start against St. Thomas on Wednesday.  I'll be curious to see how he does in his first start of the season.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 22, 2007, 09:31:16 AM
Point splits a pair of games against the MIAC yesterday, as they knock off St. Thomas 8-1, before losing to Bethel, 7-4.

Jordan Zimmerman makes his first start of the season and was impressive.  He went 7 innings, giving up 1 unearned run on 5 hits and a walk.  He struck out six.

Doug Coe did not play in either game.  Early reports are that he MAY have torn his ACL in a collision at the plate against Manchester College on Monday.  That would definitely be a blow to the Pointers if that is indeed the case.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 23, 2007, 12:27:38 AM
No Coe means no World Series for Point. The conference race will be tight if the early reports are correct. Tough blow for the Pointers and any WIAC baseball fan, really. He's fun to watch.
I could find out this weekend whether he tore his ACL. Bummer, if that's the case. I hope he's OK.
Cubs, let us know if you have the answer before then.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 23, 2007, 10:33:13 AM
The MIAC picks up a couple more victories yesterday, this time at the expense of Whitewater, as Gustavus Adolphus sweeps the Warhawks  10-9 and 4-0 (5 innings due to rain).  The one thing that jumped out was that Whitewater lost with their #1 and #2 pitchers on the mound in Jacobson and Dominick.  I'll be curious to see how they do the rest of their trip, because as of now, the WIAC really isn't fairing too well on their repective trips, with La Crosse leading the way at 7-3.  Now if Oshkosh would sweep St. Thomas and St. Olaf the next two days and finish at 9-1, that may change my mind a bit.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 24, 2007, 10:35:43 AM
It got a little better yesterday cubs as the WARHAWKS beat Central Conneticut State 6-4.  Freshman lefthander Tony Wong got his first win.  SS Greg Harder went 3x3 and scored three times.

Another MIAC opponent, Hamline, today. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 25, 2007, 08:42:14 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 23, 2007, 10:33:13 AM
The WIAC really isn't fairing too well on their repective trips, with La Crosse leading the way at 7-3.  Now if Oshkosh would sweep St. Thomas and St. Olaf the next two days and finish at 9-1, that may change my mind a bit.
So much for that thought......  UWO drops 3 out of 4 to St. Thomas (L 13-2 and W 8-4) and St. Olaf (L 13-3 and 5-4) to finish their trip at 6-4. 

Whitewater ups their record against the MAIC, with a 14-3 victory over Hamline to improve to 2-2 on their Arizona trip.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gustie13 on March 25, 2007, 09:42:14 PM
Was anyone down in Phoenix to watch the UWW-GAC games? Wondering how much weather played a role in the games, as I saw the 2nd game was called after 5. I was able to chat with some players a little after the games, but didn't get to ask about the playing field.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gustie13 on March 25, 2007, 09:45:27 PM
Whitewater, good job on beating HU 14-3 against Josh Roiger, I don't like the pipers.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 26, 2007, 10:17:29 AM
Thanks Gustie, WARHAWKS take on a Milwaukee Brewer minor league affilate today.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 27, 2007, 09:21:01 AM
WARHAWKS Top Brewer Farmhands

UW-WHITEWATER defeated a team of Milwaukee Brewers farmhands destined for various rookie leagues 4-2 in an exhibition game Monday  in Phoenix, Arizona.  WHITEWATER scored three times in the fifth inning on five hits and a sacrifice bunt and added an insurance run in the seventh on a sacrifice fly.  Greg Harder, Ben Prather and Tom Corcoran all had RBI singles in the third.  Harder and Prather both went 2x3 to pace the offense.

WHITEWATER used a different pitcher each inning of the seven inning game.   


Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on March 27, 2007, 11:00:16 AM
BW- I see 3 Donovans on the roster? Jeff is the QB and playing outfield? and one is 1b and one pitching? Are any related?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 27, 2007, 03:18:40 PM
Flash,

Don't know for sure but, in light of the fact they all attended Wauwatosa East  HS, it would seem very possible.   I'll check around and get back to you when I find out one way or the other. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: kluch on March 29, 2007, 11:21:09 PM
Just got word that ex oshkosh pitcher Jerimiah Gowey was signed by the St. Joe Blacksnakes (a member of the American Association) after working with Chris Bosio for the last year. Congrats to Gowey, he never really had "it" at oshkosh but it seems that he's got his stuff together and is now getting paid to play the game.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gustie13 on March 30, 2007, 07:45:24 AM
The American Association just had their tryouts 3/28 and 3/29 down in Ft Worth. Gustavus' Andy Schmidt went down to tryout and didn't catch on with anyone. He said they made the pitchers wait around in the stands all day and then didn't get to throw that many pitches, so I congratulate Gowey on being able to make an impression and get signed by St Joe.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BDB on April 01, 2007, 03:49:47 PM
Oshkosh comes from behind 5-2 in the top of the 9th in the first game Sunday to win. Solid fundamental baseball.

Back to the mud pit for game 2.  How about some sunshine?  ???  ;)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 01, 2007, 07:58:18 PM
Eight Oshkosh hitters had two or more hits in Game Two, as they win the nightcap 20-8 to pick up the sweep.  The teams will meet again tomorrow to complete the four game series.

La Crosse takes a pair of games from Superior 11-1 (completion of suspended game Saturday) and 8-1.  They will also try to get in a pair of games tomorrow. 

Stevens Point and Platteville are washed out again, and will try to get in three games tomorrow starting at 10:00.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 02, 2007, 04:35:39 PM
Pointers beat Platteville 5-2 in Game 1 of one of those unique "WIAC Tripleheaders"

I wonder if any other league in the country tries to play four nine-inning games in a weekend, and if that fails, plays three seven-inning games in one day.  I'm guessing no on both counts.

UPDATE:  Point gets a three game sweep, beating the Pios 3-1 and 5-0 in the last two games.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 02, 2007, 10:15:39 PM
Interesting looking standings as of 4/2 http://www.uwsa.edu/wiac/baseball/index.html (http://www.uwsa.edu/wiac/baseball/index.html)
Looks like the haves and have nots with WW squarely in the middle having not played.  Some competitive games played, but clean sweeps across the board.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
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Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 03, 2007, 01:37:45 AM
Quote from: BoBo on April 02, 2007, 10:15:39 PM
Interesting looking standings as of 4/2 http://www.uwsa.edu/wiac/baseball/index.html (http://www.uwsa.edu/wiac/baseball/index.html)
Looks like the haves and have nots with WW squarely in the middle having not played.  Some competitive games played, but clean sweeps across the board.

Expected Stout to be able to take 1 or 2...just couldn't keep Oshkosh off the boards.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 03, 2007, 03:54:20 AM
I also thought Stout would get at least one. Stout gave Oshkosh all it could handle last year, and I think Stout has the best offense in the conference.
I still think the Blue Devil hitters will get Stout into the WIAC tournament. They just need to get three of four against La Crosse this year.
Tough loss when Stout hits four bombs and still loses by a dozen because its staff gives up four HRs to Oshkosh.

I'll say it again, with catcher Doug Coe out indefinitely for Stevens Point, the WIAC is wide open. I think Coe is/was the most important position player in the league. Point still has the edge over the league with its pitchers, but the overall gap among the top three teams is virtually gone.
I still think it will come down to the last series of the season between Oshkosh and Point.
That said, I think the WIAC is down this season, especially on the mound. The regional winner will be from Minnesota (I like St. Thomas). I hope I'm proven wrong.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 03, 2007, 01:25:36 PM
In the past the teams had the weekend to play a pair of doublehitters and if weather postponed the games they had Monday to make them up.  If I understood correctly games not played by Monday were not made up, in fact I believe they counted as a loss for both teams.  This cost either Oshkosh or Stevens Point (I can't recall which) a share of the regular season conference championship a few years ago when they were unable to complete a series in Superior and was the reason we moved our games w/Superior to the MetroDome last year when weather threatened the series.

I noticed that neither Platteville or Stevens Point has a loss in the conference standings and I was wondering if the conference has changed that rule in either way.  Are they still losses and/or will teams be able to make them up on other dates?   Anyone know.....
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 03, 2007, 03:17:37 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 03, 2007, 01:25:36 PM
In the past the teams had the weekend to play a pair of doublehitters and if weather postponed the games they had Monday to make them up.  If I understood correctly games not played by Monday were not made up, in fact I believe they counted as a loss for both teams.  This cost either Oshkosh or Stevens Point (I can't recall which) a share of the regular season conference championship a few years ago when they were unable to complete a series in Superior and was the reason we moved our games w/Superior to the MetroDome last year when weather threatened the series.

I noticed that neither Platteville or Stevens Point has a loss in the conference standings and I was wondering if the conference has changed that rule in either way.  Are they still losses and/or will teams be able to make them up on other dates?   Anyone know.....

Yes, the "weather loss" was tossed out after the one year they used it.  (2003, I think and it did cost UWO a conference title when they had four games washed out at Superior).  It was stupid and the coaches recognized it as such.  So, that wasn't even in play last year.  WW just needed the games against Superior to get their winning percentage up to get the #1 seed.

Games not played by Monday are permenantly cancelled.  That may help a team or hurt a team depending on who they did or didn't play and what the other teams near them in the standings do.

The "weather loss" didn't actually show up on your record and was not posted as a loss on the conference standings.  It was only accounted for when determining the conference champion and seeding for the WIAC Tournament.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 03, 2007, 04:17:25 PM
Thanks, Bill.   I guess not realizing the rule had been dropped I just assumed that was the reason for the move to the MetroDome.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 03, 2007, 04:41:25 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 03, 2007, 04:17:25 PM
Thanks, Bill.   I guess not realizing the rule had been dropped I just assumed that was the reason for the move to the MetroDome.

Yes, that rule wasn't in place, but WW still needed the games in order to push their winning percentage up.  Smart move calling the Metrodome, and lucky move that it was available on short notice!
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gustie13 on April 03, 2007, 05:35:50 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 03, 2007, 03:54:20 AM
I also thought Stout would get at least one. Stout gave Oshkosh all it could handle last year, and I think Stout has the best offense in the conference.
I still think the Blue Devil hitters will get Stout into the WIAC tournament. They just need to get three of four against La Crosse this year.
Tough loss when Stout hits four bombs and still loses by a dozen because its staff gives up four HRs to Oshkosh.

I'll say it again, with catcher Doug Coe out indefinitely for Stevens Point, the WIAC is wide open. I think Coe is/was the most important position player in the league. Point still has the edge over the league with its pitchers, but the overall gap among the top three teams is virtually gone.
I still think it will come down to the last series of the season between Oshkosh and Point.
That said, I think the WIAC is down this season, especially on the mound. The regional winner will be from Minnesota (I like St. Thomas). I hope I'm proven wrong.

My vote is St Olaf. UST will struggle to score runs against good pitching this season.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 04, 2007, 09:08:20 AM
Quote from: Just Bill on April 03, 2007, 04:41:25 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 03, 2007, 04:17:25 PM
Thanks, Bill.   I guess not realizing the rule had been dropped I just assumed that was the reason for the move to the MetroDome.

Yes, that rule wasn't in place, but WW still needed the games in order to push their winning percentage up.  Smart move calling the Metrodome, and lucky move that it was available on short notice!

If I remember the story correctly the mother of one of our players works in the Twins' front office.  Fortunately the facility was available and it was set up pretty fast.   Superior balked at the idea initially ($, I think) but it got worked out.   
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 05, 2007, 05:43:00 PM
With the entire conference schedule postponed this week due to the weather, I think pitching depth is going to win the WIAC.
To me, that favors Oshkosh and Point and hurts Whitewater, which has a few studs but question marks after that. The tighter schedule hurts Platteville and Stout as well.
Then again it could give good hitting teams like Stout a better chance by allowing them to face lesser pitching. Any thoughts?
In any case, this season got a bit more interesting. I wish I was posting about game results and not the weather, but it's better than nothing.
Point and Platteville are already down a game thanks to the weather, and there's not much wiggle room left in the schedule. I hope more games are not lost and a true regular season champion is decided.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on April 06, 2007, 10:11:40 AM
Former WW RHP Greg Reinhard has made the opening roster of the Cubs AA Tennessee Smokies.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 06, 2007, 10:32:59 AM
Quote from: janesvilleflash on April 06, 2007, 10:11:40 AM
Former WW RHP Greg Reinhard has made the opening roster of the Cubs AA Tennessee Smokies.
Excellent!  Good for him!  That's one more team I'll have to check up on periodoically.  Who is their MLB affiliate?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 06, 2007, 11:29:14 AM
Chicago Cubs, wipe the sleep out of your eyes Bill. ;)

Kevin Tomasiewicz is with the St Lucie Mets this season.  It's a Class A affiliate.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: balco on April 10, 2007, 12:41:34 AM
yikes what an ugly day for whitewater baseball today against point. i'm hoping that jacobson can steal us a victory tomorrow if he's on the mound.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 10, 2007, 07:18:16 PM
In a battle of WIAC unbeatens, Oshkosh finished off a sweep of Lax today.

Lax came in averaging about 10 runs per game but scored only seven total runs in the four games.

Oshkosh did just enough on offense in all four games. Nothing spectacular, that's for sure. But UWO had someone different step up in every game.

Yesterday it was the freshman No. 9 hitter, Kyle Kannenberg, who hit a walkoff HR, despite going to the plate with two extra base hits and batting about .180 on the season.

Today it was another frosh, shortstop Derek Leighton, who provided the spark with three bunt hits and some great plays in the field. Freshman catcher Cory Hastings drove in the game-four winner in the bottom of the 10th.

Pitchers Adam Roos, Adam Bretl, Brad Bolton, Jeremy Rubens and Brian Gerl were all very, very sharp. All except the first inning today by Rubens, another freshman, were what I would call fairly dominant. Bretl and Bolton started and won. Gerl won two in relief and saved another.

It's early, but just like the good old days, Oshkosh is back in the WIAC driver's seat at 8-0.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 10, 2007, 08:10:51 PM
WARHAWKS get a split with Point winning both games today 5-4, 8-6.

Mike Jacobson went the distance in game one surrendering 10 hits to up his record to 4-0 on the season.  After trailing 3-0 Point scored a pair of runs in the sixth and seventh to take the lead 4-3 but Jeff Donovan's  two strike, two out, two run home run in the top of the ninth put the WARHAWKS on top for good.

Aaron Dott pitched five and 2/3 innings of relief to get the win in game two.  Trailing 8-4 Point scored single runs in the 7th and 9th to close the gap to two runs before Dott K'd the final hitter.  Greg Harder led WW hitters going 4 for 5 while Tom Donovan and Billy Johnson each had two hits and combined for 5 RBI to pace.

We really needed these two to avoid digging too deep a hole to start the season.   Next up, the Blue Devil at Procha Field.   
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 10, 2007, 11:23:31 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 10, 2007, 07:18:16 PM
Freshman catcher Cory Hastings drove in the game-four winner in the bottom of the 10th.
He also had a 2-run single in Game three, which proved to be the game winner in a 2-1 UWO victory.
Quote from: OshDude on April 10, 2007, 07:18:16 PMGerl won two in relief and saved another.
What is impressive to me, is that in 8 conference games, Gerl has appeared in 7 of them, earning 3 wins and 3 saves.  Coach Lechnir has been known to ride his starters in the past, but it appears this season he has a valuable arm in Gerl that is able to bounce back in a hurry, and he isn't afraid to go to him.  He lost a game early on their Spring Trip to Saint Norbert in the 9th inning 3-2, but since then he has been lights out giving up 2 ER in 29 IP.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 11, 2007, 11:00:52 AM
The weather's looking really bad for this weekend though it's suppose to clear up by Monday if the field isn't too wet to play. 

This weather is simply miserable and looks like it's going to continue to mess up the scheduling.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on April 15, 2007, 02:37:28 PM
Oshkosh 6, Platteville 5, End of 5th inning in Game 1 as I post.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on April 15, 2007, 03:44:02 PM
Oshkosh 11, Platteville 5, Final, Game 1.

Titans' Gerl came in to pitch the last 3 innings and retired all but one of the batters he faced.
R Demmin also pitched for this game. It's a wonder this one wasn't more of a slugfest than it apparently started out to be.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: razor_ramone on April 15, 2007, 05:12:52 PM
So did coach Brezowitz and the grounds crew work their magic and get the fields ready to play agin. I know on Thursday that was his bigest worry. Of course their is nothing you can do about the weather this is Wisconsin.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 15, 2007, 08:24:50 PM
Updated WIAC Standings (Through 4/16)
Oshkosh 11-1
Stevens Point 9-2
Whitewater 5-3
La Crosse 4-4
Stout 4-8
Platteville 1-6
Superior 1-11

Looking at the boxscores, here are a few things that jumped out....

-UWSP is hitting the ball pretty well right now, however their pitching isn't looking too hot.  Zielke, Nix, Kempf, Hopkins and Hemstead all were hit around pretty hard this weekend by a "light" hitting Superior squad.  Each one of them gave up 4 or more runs, with Zielke (4 R in 5 IP) and Hemstead (6 R in 6 IP) being the only two to throw at least 5 innings.

-UWO looks to be the exact opposite.  Their pitching continues to impress (47 runs allowed in 12 WIAC games, including 21 runs in the last 8 WIAC games) however their bats are about as lively as a mosquito in the dead of winter.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 15, 2007, 09:11:34 PM
Yes, Coach Brez and crew worked their magic.  The field looked great.  They also did a great job on the softball diamonds which hosted a doublehitter vs Eau Claire today. 

WARHAWKS win 3 of 4 from Stout, 8-1, 3-7, 6-5 and 9-2.   

Trailing 1-0 WW plated 4 in the 4th and 2 in each the 6th and 8th innings to win Saturday's opener going away.  Bill Gorman led the offense with 4 RBIs on 2x3 at the plate.  Tom Corcoran added 2 RBIs on 3x5 hitting.  A trio of pitchers, Jay Grutzmacher, Adam Dominick and Randy Johnson, were solid on the mound surrendering 7 hits combined.  Dominick got the win with 4 innings of relief.

Game two started fast as the two teams hit solo home runs in their first inning but Stout got another in the fourth and then four in the fifth to go up 6-1.  WW cut the lead to 6-3 but Stout added another for the final.  Mike Jacobson took his first loss of the season as the junior struggled with his control and pitched from behind often. 

The WARHAWKS scored the first run in game three  on a wild pitch in the first and made it stand until Stout got five hits and plated 4 runs in the fourth to take the lead.  WW got two back in the fifth but Stout scored another in the sixth and took the 5-3 lead into the eighth inning.  But WW plated two in the bottom of the eighth and got the game winner on a Jordan Stine double in their ninth.  Relievers Kale Olson and Kevin Harves pitched the final three innings with Harves getting the win by retiring the 3, 4 and 5 hitters for Stout on five pitches to end the game.  Stine went 3x4 with 2. Gorman added two hits and scored the winning run.  Jason Rutz also had two hits.

WHITEWATER plated five runs in the third with five hits highlighted by a grand slam home run by Kevin Zalnis.  Stout got on the board in the fourth but WW added two in their at bat and another in the sixth before Stout got an unearned one in the ninth.  Tony Wong evened his season record at 2-2 with 12 Ks in six innings on the mound.  Tom Corcoran paced the offense going 3x4 with 3 RBIs while Stine and Jeff Donovan each had two hits. 

Oskhosh on Wednesday.

Flash, the Donovans are brothers.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: razor_ramone on April 18, 2007, 12:50:21 PM
It looks a lil wet in whitewater today. I am wondering if coach Brez and his grounds crew will work their magic again and have the baseball field ready to go for the games today. If nothing else Whitewater should hire coach Brez as head gorundskeeper. As it doesn't matter how much it rains or snows the fields at Whitewater are always ready to go.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 18, 2007, 04:33:10 PM
From Point.....
Point knocks off Stout 1-0 in the opener behind a CG two hitter from Jordan Zimmerman.  He struck out 11 while walking four.  Point scored their only run (unearned) in the 5th thanks to dropped fly ball by the RF with two outs.  Ben Warwick followed with a single (one of only 3 Point hits) to drive in the eventual game winner.

Anyone have an update from Whitewater?  I can't get connected on the radio station on the UWO website.  It says they are broadcasting the game....
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 18, 2007, 08:45:13 PM
Oshkosh took both games unless WW rallied from a 10-1 deficit in their last two at bats.    Game one went 7-3 to the Titan when they broke a 3-3 tie with four runs after two were out in their final at bat. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 18, 2007, 09:11:01 PM
Point commits 6 errors, gives up 10 unearned runs and loses to Stout 13-10 in Game 2.   I think that says all I can say.

P.S.  Stout gave up 4 unearned runs on three errors.  A masterpiece this was not.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Mr. Downtown on April 24, 2007, 11:45:28 AM
I see that Oshkosh is ranked #12 in the nation now.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 25, 2007, 08:49:21 PM
WW and Oshkosh split their games today...WW takes the opener 12-4, OWO in the nightcap 10-5.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 25, 2007, 08:51:44 PM
Updated WIAC Standings (Through 4/25)
Oshkosh 18-2
Stevens Point 11-4
Whitewater 8-7-1
La Crosse 8-8
Stout 9-11
Platteville 3-11-1
Superior 1-15

UWO is guaranteed a share of the WIAC regular season championship with just one win over UWSP in a pair of DH's this weekend. 

The best race is for the 3-4 spot and a berth in the WIAC conference tournament.  Things could REALLY get interesting with a UWO four game sweep over UWSP (not very likely) this weekend.

We should get a better idea of what kind of team UWL is as they face Whitewater and Stevens Point in a pair of 4 game sets the next two weekends.

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: titan2000 on April 25, 2007, 08:57:45 PM
I thought Superior would have an awesome team this year.   Dissapointing.

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 26, 2007, 10:04:01 AM
Remaining conference schedules:

Oshkosh: @ Stevens Point (4), bye
Stevens Point: Oshkosh (4), LaCrosse (4)
WHITEWATER: @ LaCrosse (4), Superior (4)
LaCrosse: WHITEWATER (4), @ Stevens Point (4)
Stout: bye, @Platteville (4)
Platteville: @Superior (4), Stout (4)
Superior:  Platteville (4), @ WHITEWATER (4)

It could get very interesting but I think, with their pitching, Oshkosh has a good shot at the championship.  But you never know and Point's bats are certainly capable of giving the Titan staff a run for their money but I'd be pretty shocked if they couldn't get that done.

WARHAWKS and LaCrosse, who knows?  We've been so inconsistant that you never know which team is going to take the field.   Obviously WHITEWATER'S chances of repeating as conference champions have evaporated so our only chance of playing after the middle of May is to make the conference tournament and being playing our best baseball.  I'm just not sure what to expect.   If it's more of the same, we've got a problem.  At least the schedule concludes with Superior.  Obviously the series is critical to LaCrosse as well.  Finishing with Stevens Point only makes it more so for them.

I certainly wouldn't rule Stout out of the picture though their chances are slim.  They get a week to rest and then take on Platteville.  They'll probably have to sweep that series to have any chance.  They've got the sticks to do it but I don't think they have the arms.   






Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 27, 2007, 12:32:23 AM
I'll stick with my preseason prediction. Stout will be the No. 4 seed.

Not to toot my own horn, but before the season I said the winner of the La Crosse/Stout season series would be the No. 4. I'm pretty sure I'm right (toot, toot).

Lax has not beaten a good team besides Stout (1 of 4) all year. I don't see the Eagles doing much against Whitewater or Point either.

I would go so far as to say Blue Devils are in even if Platteville somehow sweeps them, because that would means Lax has to win 2 of 8 against Point/Whitewater due to the head-to-head tiebreaker.

Lax is not winning 2 of its last 8 games. And that's the best-case scenario. Even though Platteville is dangerous, Stout should at least get a split in that series, forcing Lax to split with SP/WW to earn a berth.

Granted, Stout's pitching is very suspect. But needing a win or two with a week off and the entire staff available against Platteville is much easier than the gauntlet Lax is facing.

Though I have been wrong before ...
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 27, 2007, 09:56:01 AM
Quote from: OshDude on April 27, 2007, 12:32:23 AM
Lax has not beaten a good team besides Stout (1 of 4) all year. I don't see the Eagles doing much against Whitewater or Point either.
In all fairness, La Crosse could have just as well won 3 out 4 from the Titans, losing three 1-run contests.  If they happened to win one or two of those one run games, do you give them a better chance?

I could see La Crosse splitting with both Whitewater and Stevens Point (which would put them at 12-12) and it still won't be enough for them to get in if Stout takes just one of four from Platteville.  They have nobody to blame but themselves however, considering they gave Superior their only win of the season.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: balco on April 29, 2007, 07:25:59 PM
Anyone hear the results yet from Whitewater and Lacrosse today?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 29, 2007, 08:02:20 PM
They split, LaX taking the opener 10-0 in 8 innings and the Warhawks in the second 16-10.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 30, 2007, 12:39:04 AM
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Platteville as the No. 4 seed. All the Pioneers need is to win 3 of 4 at home over Stout and a little help from Stevens Point. That's very possible.

The lost game against the Pointers could turn out to be the most important game of the year. It's hard to assume a Stevens Point win over Platteville in that game, but I would say it's better than 50/50 that Platteville would have another loss had the game been played.

Too bad Whitewater gets Superior. Things would be really interesting if they had Oshkosh to close out the year.

Nevertheless, there is some drama this weekend. The WIAC is always good for that.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 30, 2007, 05:57:29 PM
Here's my 2007 all-WIAC team. Don't see these changing in the last four games. Chime in with yours.

1B Brad Demmin (UWO) - .424, 5 HR, 40 RBI, 32 R
1B Seth Maier (Stout) - .416, 7 HR, 29 RBI, 33 R
1B Ross Bennett (Platte) - .383, 9 HR, 35 RBI, 40 R, 10-11 SB (Position POY)
2B Storm Gram (LC) - .403, 1 HR, 30 RBI, 37 R, 8-9 SB
2B Tim Schlosser (STP) - .317, 6 HR, 32 RBI, 22 R
OF Jason Fosler (UWO) - .361, 5 HR, 37 RBI, 35 R
OF Ryan Byrnes (STP) - .363, 6 HR, 35 RBI, 40 R
OF Brandon Scheidler (STP) - .368, 5 HR, 37 RBI, 37 R
OF Erik Johnson (Stout) - .298, 5 HR, 37 RBI, 24 R
OF Bryan Schwebke (UWO) - .338, 6 HR, 22 RBI, 37 R
OF Joel Hojnacki (STP) - .328, 5 HR, 16 RBI, 43 R, 13-16 SB
DH Thomas Corcoran (WW) - .379, 5 HR, 37 RBI, 26 R
DH Mike Kuhn (Platte) - .302, 6 HR, 42 RBI, 24 R
UTIL Adam Evanoff (STP) - .384, 8 HR, 39 RBI, 35 R
UTIL Brad Archambeau (STP) - .403, 5 HR, 34 RBI, 36 R

P Brian Gerl (UWO) - 4-2, 2.85 ERA, 9 saves, 47.1 IP, 42 H, 3 BB, 31 K (Pitcher of the Year)
P Jordan Zimmerman (STP) - 5-0, 2.56, 2 saves, 38.2 IP, 30 H, 9 BB, 40 K
P Brandon Hempstead (STP) - 4-0, 2.18 ERA, 53.2 IP, 47 H, 21 BB, 46 K
P Rob Heller (Stout) - 5-0, 1.99 ERA, 1 save, 40.2 IP, 49 H, 11 BB, 16 K
P Adam Bretl (UWO) - 6-2, 3.70 ERA, 1 save, 56 IP, 52 H, 8 BB, 34 K
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 30, 2007, 06:35:16 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 30, 2007, 05:57:29 PM
Here's my 2007 all-WIAC team. Don't see these changing in the last four games. Chime in with yours.

1B Brad Demmin (UWO) - .424, 5 HR, 40 RBI, 32 R
1B Seth Maier (Stout) - .416, 7 HR, 29 RBI, 33 R
1B Ross Bennett (Platte) - .383, 9 HR, 35 RBI, 40 R, 10-11 SB (Position POY)
2B Storm Gram (LC) - .403, 1 HR, 30 RBI, 37 R, 8-9 SB
2B Tim Schlosser (STP) - .317, 6 HR, 32 RBI, 22 R
OF Jason Fosler (UWO) - .361, 5 HR, 37 RBI, 35 R
OF Ryan Byrnes (STP) - .363, 6 HR, 35 RBI, 40 R
OF Brandon Scheidler (STP) - .368, 5 HR, 37 RBI, 37 R
OF Erik Johnson (Stout) - .298, 5 HR, 37 RBI, 24 R
OF Bryan Schwebke (UWO) - .338, 6 HR, 22 RBI, 37 R
OF Joel Hojnacki (STP) - .328, 5 HR, 16 RBI, 43 R, 13-16 SB
DH Thomas Corcoran (WW) - .379, 5 HR, 37 RBI, 26 R
DH Mike Kuhn (Platte) - .302, 6 HR, 42 RBI, 24 R
UTIL Adam Evanoff (STP) - .384, 8 HR, 39 RBI, 35 R
UTIL Brad Archambeau (STP) - .403, 5 HR, 34 RBI, 36 R

P Brian Gerl (UWO) - 4-2, 2.85 ERA, 9 saves, 47.1 IP, 42 H, 3 BB, 31 K (Pitcher of the Year)
P Jordan Zimmerman (STP) - 5-0, 2.56, 2 saves, 38.2 IP, 30 H, 9 BB, 40 K
P Brandon Hempstead (STP) - 4-0, 2.18 ERA, 53.2 IP, 47 H, 21 BB, 46 K
P Rob Heller (Stout) - 5-0, 1.99 ERA, 1 save, 40.2 IP, 49 H, 11 BB, 16 K
P Adam Bretl (UWO) - 6-2, 3.70 ERA, 1 save, 56 IP, 52 H, 8 BB, 34 K

Are those WIAC-only stats or all season?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 30, 2007, 08:31:50 PM
Jeff Donovan, WW...........  .377,    5 HR  26 RBI  33 R  .447 Slug%   4-5  SB/Att  (Season Stats)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 30, 2007, 09:15:24 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 30, 2007, 06:35:16 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 30, 2007, 05:57:29 PM
Here's my 2007 all-WIAC team. Don't see these changing in the last four games. Chime in with yours.

1B Brad Demmin (UWO) - .424, 5 HR, 40 RBI, 32 R
1B Seth Maier (Stout) - .416, 7 HR, 29 RBI, 33 R
1B Ross Bennett (Platte) - .383, 9 HR, 35 RBI, 40 R, 10-11 SB (Position POY)
2B Storm Gram (LC) - .403, 1 HR, 30 RBI, 37 R, 8-9 SB
2B Tim Schlosser (STP) - .317, 6 HR, 32 RBI, 22 R
OF Jason Fosler (UWO) - .361, 5 HR, 37 RBI, 35 R
OF Ryan Byrnes (STP) - .363, 6 HR, 35 RBI, 40 R
OF Brandon Scheidler (STP) - .368, 5 HR, 37 RBI, 37 R
OF Erik Johnson (Stout) - .298, 5 HR, 37 RBI, 24 R
OF Bryan Schwebke (UWO) - .338, 6 HR, 22 RBI, 37 R
OF Joel Hojnacki (STP) - .328, 5 HR, 16 RBI, 43 R, 13-16 SB
DH Thomas Corcoran (WW) - .379, 5 HR, 37 RBI, 26 R
DH Mike Kuhn (Platte) - .302, 6 HR, 42 RBI, 24 R
UTIL Adam Evanoff (STP) - .384, 8 HR, 39 RBI, 35 R
UTIL Brad Archambeau (STP) - .403, 5 HR, 34 RBI, 36 R

P Brian Gerl (UWO) - 4-2, 2.85 ERA, 9 saves, 47.1 IP, 42 H, 3 BB, 31 K (Pitcher of the Year)
P Jordan Zimmerman (STP) - 5-0, 2.56, 2 saves, 38.2 IP, 30 H, 9 BB, 40 K
P Brandon Hempstead (STP) - 4-0, 2.18 ERA, 53.2 IP, 47 H, 21 BB, 46 K
P Rob Heller (Stout) - 5-0, 1.99 ERA, 1 save, 40.2 IP, 49 H, 11 BB, 16 K
P Adam Bretl (UWO) - 6-2, 3.70 ERA, 1 save, 56 IP, 52 H, 8 BB, 34 K

Are those WIAC-only stats or all season?
Season.
Edit: I now understand why you asked ... good point. Without going back to look at WIAC-only stats, I'll go with this team anyway.

Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 30, 2007, 08:31:50 PM
Jeff Donovan, WW...........  .377,    5 HR  26 RBI  33 R  .447 Slug%   4-5  SB/Att  (Season Stats)

Donovan and Andy Podmolik were my last two off the team.

If you took anyone off my team for JD, who would it be? My guess is either Schlosser or Schwebke. But I'm curious anyway. It was tough to get it from about 18 to 15 offensive guys. I can't argue with JD being on there.

Also tough to leave off Ross Benitz and a couple other pitchers.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 01, 2007, 10:35:04 AM
Schlosser, Schwebke and/or Johnson.

I wondered about Podmolik when I saw your list but his numbers are a little down this year though he's still an exceptional player.

While my general perception is that the league, as a whole, is having a down year there are still a lot of very good players and I agree whitling the pack down to that few short changes someone.  I thought your's was a pretty good list.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on May 01, 2007, 11:04:22 AM
Quote from: Just Bill on April 06, 2007, 10:32:59 AM
Quote from: janesvilleflash on April 06, 2007, 10:11:40 AM
Former WW RHP Greg Reinhard has made the opening roster of the Cubs AA Tennessee Smokies.
Excellent!  Good for him!  That's one more team I'll have to check up on periodoically.  Who is their MLB affiliate?

Without checking I expect they are a Chicago Cubs minor league team.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 01, 2007, 11:32:39 AM
Quote from: janesvilleflash on April 06, 2007, 10:11:40 AM
Former WW RHP Greg Reinhard has made the opening roster of the Cubs AA Tennessee Smokies.


You are correct, JD.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 05, 2007, 12:17:21 AM
That didn't take long. All the top teams took care of business, and the seeds are locked in for the WIAC tournament.

#1 Oshkosh
#2 Stevens Point
#3 Whitewater
#4 Stout

Now all that is left is the all-conference team. Stout OF Erik Johnson probably secured his spot with a big day against Platteville. So did Stout SP Rob Heller, who improved to 6-0.

Anyone else have an all-conference team?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 05, 2007, 01:26:55 AM
Could be an interesting matchup between Stout and Oshkosh in the first round. Would assume Heller would pitch for Stout, and he left with a lead against them in the regular season before the bullpen blew it.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 05, 2007, 01:39:04 AM
Quote from: Spence on May 05, 2007, 01:26:55 AM
Could be an interesting matchup between Stout and Oshkosh in the first round. Would assume Heller would pitch for Stout, and he left with a lead against them in the regular season before the bullpen blew it.

I agree, Spence. Besides facing Stevens Point with Zimmerman on the mound, I think Stout and those bats (and Heller) is the next worst scenario for Oshkosh.

Good thing Oshkosh probably has a Pool C bid going in because Stout is not your average WIAC #4 seed.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 05, 2007, 02:10:46 AM
Maybe. An 0-2 would make it kind of iffy.

I'm curious to see what UWSP does with their pitchers. Both Zimmerman and Hemstead should stand a decent chance against Whitewater, but Zimmerman would stand a lot better chance against Oshkosh in a theoretical second game. That said, you have to win the first one to win the first two.

I'd have a hard time not throwing Zimmerman, but it's tempting.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 05, 2007, 09:27:34 AM
I think Oshkosh is anything but a lock for a Pool C bid.  Too many upsets across the nation and Oshkosh will have no safety net left.  It wouldn't surprise me if this was a 1 bid year for the WIAC.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 05, 2007, 10:54:03 AM
I see it pretty much the same way, Bill.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 05, 2007, 04:29:25 PM
If Point wins the tourney and Oshkosh gets a win, I think both are in.

If Whitewater or Stout wins over anyone but Oshkosh in the final, I think the WIAC gets one bid.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 07, 2007, 08:12:20 PM
I ran some QOWi numbers, and most Midwest Region teams need to do more than they think. These results should be very close, though I have four more St. Scholastica in-region games than the previous rankings had.

Though there are many criteria, on the national board many posters think 9.7 is a reasonable cutoff for at-large bids using the QOWi criterion.

Let me know if I made any errors or if another team should be considered.

Numbers through Sunday's games:
1. Oshkosh 10.32
2. St. Olaf 10.04
3. Ripon 9.7
4. St. Thomas 9.66
5. Stevens Point 9.61
6. St. Scholastica 9.33
7. St. Norbert 9.2
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: titan2000 on May 08, 2007, 10:53:31 PM
Does Gillespie wear a uniform or one of those silly sport coats he wears when he coaches Hoops?

Better dead than Red.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 11, 2007, 04:19:48 PM
UWO 7
UW Stout 9 (10 innings)

Currently in the 7th:
Whitewater 1
Stevens Point 2
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 11, 2007, 05:55:05 PM
Here's my updated 2007 all-WIAC team, which uses only conference stats (24 possible games, in most cases). There were a couple changes from the original.

1B Brad Demmin (UWO) - .455, 5 HR, 36 RBI, 27 R (Co-Position POY)
1B Seth Maier (Stout) - .398, 5 HR, 22 RBI, 28 R
1B Ross Bennett (Platte) - .366, 5 HR, 21 RBI, 21 R (Co-Position POY)
2B Storm Gram (LC) - .443, 2 HR, 18 RBI, 25 R
2B Tim Schlosser (STP) - .354, 5 HR, 24 RBI, 18 R
OF Jason Fosler (UWO) - .390, 5 HR, 27 RBI, 28 R
OF Ryan Byrnes (STP) - .358, 4 HR, 22 RBI, 28 R
OF Brandon Scheidler (STP) - .354, 2 HR, 25 RBI, 22 R
*OF Jeff Donovan (WW) - .376, 4 HR, 22 RBI, 31 R
OF Erik Johnson (Stout) - .347, 7 HR, 33 RBI, 25 R
OF Bryan Schwebke (UWO) - .320, 5 HR, 16 RBI, 27 R
*OF Jordan Stine (WW) - .442, 5 HR, 24 RBI, 30 R
DH Thomas Corcoran (WW) - .396, 3 HR, 30 RBI, 16 R
UTIL Adam Evanoff (STP) - .398, 5 HR, 28 RBI, 26 R
*UTIL Mickey Fadness (UWO) - .396, 2 HR, 25 RBI, 20 R

P Brian Gerl (UWO) - 4-1, 3.10 ERA, 7 saves, 40.2 IP, 34 H, 2 BB, 24 K (Pitcher of the Year)
P Jordan Zimmerman (STP) - 5-0, 2.60, 2 saves, 34.2 IP, 26 H, 9 BB, 42 K
P Brandon Hempstead (STP) - 3-0, 2.66 ERA, 44 IP, 42 H, 16 BB, 32 K
P Rob Heller (Stout) - 4-0, 1.89 ERA, 1 save, 33.1 IP, 36 H, 18 BB, 17 K
P Adam Bretl (UWO) - 5-1, 4.54 ERA, 37.2 IP, 40 H, 6 BB, 22 K

*Different from my last team

Just missed:
DH Mike Kuhn (Platte), OF Joel Hojnacki (STP), OF Scott Dybevik (Platte), UTIL Brad Archambeau (STP), OF Ben Prather (WW), P Ross Benitz (Platte), P Adam Roos (UWO), P Joe Cox (Platte), P Ben Sivertson (Stout), P Matt Doornink (Stout).
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 11, 2007, 07:21:53 PM
Point beat Whitewater 5-4.

Oshkosh def. Whitewater 7-4. WW is eliminated.

Point vs. Stout just underway.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on May 12, 2007, 09:10:22 PM
I liked Gerl for pitcher of the year. Only 2 walks is amazing.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 14, 2007, 01:08:57 AM
Nice little photo gallery from the WIAC Tournament courtesy of the Stevens Point Journal.  As you can guess it fetures Point the most, but includes shots of every team:

http://www.stevenspointjournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Avis=U0&Dato=20070513&Kategori=SPJNEWS&Lopenr=705130804&Ref=PH
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 14, 2007, 09:05:33 AM
UW-Stevens Point to host NCAA Regional at Witter Field in Wisconsin Rapids:

http://www.uwsp.edu/athletics/baseball/2007/NCAAbid07.htm
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 14, 2007, 03:13:43 PM
Anyone else think the two best teams are playing in the first round of the Midwest Regional? St. Thomas and Oshkosh deserved better, IMO. I admit Point deserves the No. 1 or 2 seed, but I think Oshkosh is a better team.

Seeds 3-5 are not what I thought they would be. Why did Ripon have to sweep Point earlier in the season? That screwed everything up. Ripon is not a No. 3 seed, but I understand why they are.

My seeds would be:
1. St. Thomas
2. Stevens Point
3. Oshkosh
4. Ripon
5. St. Olaf
6. St. Scholastica

The winner of St. Thomas/Oshkosh will play in Grand Chute. I'll go with my heart and pick Oshkosh over Point in the championship.

Any other predictions?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 14, 2007, 04:24:47 PM
I agree probably St. Thomas and Oshkosh are the two best teams and the winner of that could be going to Appleton. But dont count out the winner of the Stevens Point/Scholastica matchup because the winner of that game gets the loser of Ripon and Olaf so whoever wins between Point and Scholastica could be looking pretty.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 14, 2007, 08:38:55 PM
Wisconsin Rapids Regional web site:

http://www.uwsp.edu/athletics/baseball/NCAARegional07.htm
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: John Gleich on May 16, 2007, 02:05:12 PM
Point leading 3-1 after 3 innings.  One run per inning for Point, two of those were unearned due to three St. S errors.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 16, 2007, 02:33:41 PM
The all-WIAC team is posted. I don't agree with the Pitcher and Position Players of the Year, but I can see why Jordan Zimmerman and Seth Maier were selected. They are both really good, but as far as the best in 2007, I have my doubts.

Flip a coin between Zimmerman and Brian Gerl from Oshkosh for Pitcher of the Year. I'll give them that one. In fact, I'm probably in the minority in thinking Gerl was the Pitcher of the Year.

Although I really respect Maier's abilities (he's probably my favorite WIAC hitter to watch), he simply was not the best player in 2007. He'd be my fourth choice after Brad Demmin from Oshkosh, Ross Bennett from Platteville and Whitewater's Jordan Stine. Just going by numbers, Maier's teammate Erik Johnson had the better 2007.

Overall, I think the team looks good. My team and the actual team had one difference -- La Crosse's Andy Podmolik got a lifetime achivement nod instead of the more deserving 2007 performance of Point's Brandon Scheidler. I'm OK with that. If anyone deserves it, it's Podmolik.

http://www.uwsa.edu/wiac/baseball/07allcon.htm (http://www.uwsa.edu/wiac/baseball/07allcon.htm)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 16, 2007, 02:47:05 PM
Point 3
CSS 3   Bottom of 7th

-Zimmerman has been a victim of the long ball, giving up 2 HR's, which have accounted for all of CSS's runs.  He does however have 9 K's and 0 BB's in 7 IP.

-Point was able to chase CSS's #1 Moriarity, after only 5 IP.  It will be interesting to see if they can get something going against their bullpen.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 16, 2007, 02:57:47 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 16, 2007, 02:47:05 PM
-Point was able to chase CSS's #1 Moriarity, after only 5 IP.  It will be interesting to see if they can get something going against their bullpen.

Short answer:  Yes they can.

Point puts up six in the bottom of the 7th to take a 9-3 lead.  Zimmerman homered to start the inning, and the Pointers scored 5 more times on just 1 more hit, 2 CSS errors, a HBP and 2 wild pitches.  CSS really killing themselves with 5 errors and 7 unearned runs.

Zimmerman cruising along with 11 K's and no walks.  The two HR's are the only blemishes on an otherwise great outing.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 16, 2007, 03:17:24 PM
Point tacks on two more unearned runs in the eighth.  Now lead 11-3.  Good to see Point winning, but who could have imagined CSS committing six errors.  That won't help them overcome their conference's weak reputation.

UPDATE:  Game is now final - UWSP 11, CSS 3

http://www.uwsp.edu/athletics/baseball/NCAAregional07/ncaa1.htm
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 18, 2007, 01:18:24 PM
Ripon jumps on Point and Mike Thurn early scoring four runs in the Top of the 1st inning to get out to an early 4-0 lead.  Bo Johnson provided the big blow with a 3-run HR. 

It will be interesting to see how long Coach Bloom stays with Thurn in this elimination game.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 18, 2007, 01:30:11 PM
Point returns the favor, and scores three in their half of the first on HR's by Schlosser and Evanoff to make it 4-3.  Point actually had the bases loaded, however Hojnacki hit into a fielders choice to end the inning.

I wounder if this will be one of those 15-12 type elimination games??
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 18, 2007, 01:52:23 PM
Ripon tacks on three more in the 2nd, coming on 3 RBI singles to chase Zurn.  (Zielke gets the final out of the inning.)  Schlosser hits his 2nd HR of the day in the bottom of the 2nd, to make it 7-4 Ripon.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 18, 2007, 01:56:11 PM
WOW!!!! Sounds like a slow-pitch softball game broke out in Wisconsin Rapids.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 18, 2007, 02:11:27 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 18, 2007, 01:56:11 PM
WOW!!!! Sounds like a slow-pitch softball game broke out in Wisconsin Rapids.
Ain't that the truth!!!  To add to that, Ripon 1B Bo Johnson was ejected for "elbowing" UWSP 1B Adam Evanoff after grounding out to him to end the 2nd inning.

Score is now 8-4 Ripon, after Catcher John Dunlavy's HR in the 4th for Ripon.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 18, 2007, 03:32:19 PM
Point scores 5 in the 9th to win 11-10.  They will take on St. Thomas at 7:00 pm tonight.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 18, 2007, 03:33:19 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 18, 2007, 03:32:19 PM
Point scores 5 in the 9th to win 11-10.  They will take on St. Thomas at 7:00 pm tonight.

WOW! Heart-breaking loss for the Redhawks.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gustie13 on May 18, 2007, 04:32:33 PM
Was anyone at the game to see the elbow and ejection? Was it legit?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 18, 2007, 10:34:10 PM
Point beat St. Thomas 6-3 tonight to advance to the championship game.  Here is Saturday's schedule:

Game #10 - Noon - St. Thomas (2-1) vs. UW-Oshkosh (2-1)
Game #11 - 3:30 p.m.- UW-Stevens Point (3-1) vs. Winner Game 10 (Championship Game)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: titan2000 on May 19, 2007, 07:43:12 AM
Quote from: Gustie13 on May 18, 2007, 04:32:33 PM
Was anyone at the game to see the elbow and ejection? Was it legit?

Bo lost his cool on the basketball court a few times too.

Why can't Gillespie discipline these guys. 

Better Dead Than Red.

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 19, 2007, 09:16:22 AM
Quote from: titan2k on May 19, 2007, 07:43:12 AM
Quote from: Gustie13 on May 18, 2007, 04:32:33 PM
Was anyone at the game to see the elbow and ejection? Was it legit?
Bo lost his cool on the basketball court a few times too.

Why can't Gillespie discipline these guys. 

Better Dead Than Red.
Must mean you'd rather lose than win, with the amount of games the Lawrence Baseball team has won over the past 20+ years.....  Feel free to make the MWC Tournament at least once, much less the NCAA Tournament. ::)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: titan2000 on May 20, 2007, 07:07:59 PM
Bo Johnson is the topic.

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: RR_Dad on May 23, 2007, 08:02:09 AM
Quote from: Gustie13 on May 18, 2007, 04:32:33 PM
Was anyone at the game to see the elbow and ejection? Was it legit?
Don't think it was legit.  The 2nd base ump said he wouldn't have thrown him out.  Bo was just bracing for contact with Evanoff, but the ump didn't see it that way.  Just so happens to be the same ump that threw him out of a game last year.  Me thinks he has it out for him.  Was pretty weak ejection considering the importance of the game.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 01, 2007, 11:44:03 AM
It looks like three WIAC players will be suiting up in the Northwoods League this summer.  UW-W's Adam Dominick will be pitching for the LaCrosse Loggers and centerfielder Jordan Stine is playing for the Wisconsin Woodchucks.  UW-O's Mickey Faddness is on the Eau Claire Express roster.  He drove in their only run last night in a 2-1 loss to Madison.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on June 01, 2007, 07:01:05 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on June 01, 2007, 11:44:03 AM
It looks like three WIAC players will be suiting up in the Northwoods League this summer.  UW-W's Adam Dominick will be pitching for the LaCrosse Loggers and centerfielder Jordan Stine is playing for the Wisconsin Woodchucks.  UW-O's Mickey Faddness is on the Eau Claire Express roster.  He drove in their only run last night in a 2-1 loss to Madison.

FYI: there is a D3 summer wood bat league chat on the National board
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on June 07, 2007, 06:38:16 PM
UWSP's Jordan Zimmerman was selected by the Washington Nationals in the second round (67th pick).
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on June 07, 2007, 06:54:33 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on June 07, 2007, 06:38:16 PM
UWSP's Jordan Zimmerman was selected by the Washington Nationals in the second round (67th pick).

Congrats to him!  :) ;) :D 8)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on August 24, 2007, 07:58:48 PM
Alanta Braves cutting ties with former UW-W pitcher Bob Wickman by designating him for assignment.


http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/story/10316731 (http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/story/10316731)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 11, 2008, 02:34:29 PM
Can anybody preview the WIAC for me?

With two teams in the top 11 (UWSP #7 and UWO #11) it appears that it is going to be quite a battle for the conference.

How does Whitewater look? Who appears to the the #4 team (assuming that UWSP, UWO and UWW are 1-3)?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on January 15, 2008, 09:55:06 AM
BP-
Oshkosh returns 8 out of their 9 starters from last season, only having to replace Schwebke in CF (although he put up some nice numbers as a 1st Team All WIAC selection .355 BA 17 2B, 4 3B, 10 HR.) 

The Titans weakness, may be their pitching staff.  They only return one pitcher who threw more than 30 innings last year (Jeremy Reubens-51.2 IP.)  They will need to replace three All WIAC pitchers (Adam Bretl, Brian Gerl, and Adam Roos) and two other seniors in Cal Stanke (drafted in the 15th round by the LA Dodgers) and Brad Bolton who accounted for over 70% of both the teams victories (25 out of 35) and innings pitched (304 of the 413 IP.)  To say they will need some freshman to step up would be an understatement.....

As far as the 4th team, I would have to think that Stout has the inside track at this time.  (Depending on other schools recruits, I may be swayed.)  They return 1st Team All WIAC OF Eric Johnson, along with Honorable Mention All WIAC selections at C, SS, and P. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on January 17, 2008, 12:07:58 AM
Whitewater is my preseason pick, followed by Oshkosh and Stevens Point in third.

The other? I like La Crosse. Like the lineup and, unlike the other two contenders, there are some decent arms.

I just don't think Stout can get anyone out. Then again, that offense will be tough to stop, even without Seth Meier.

Platteville should give LAX and Stout a run for the fourth spot. You could do worse than that lineup, and I actually really like a couple of the PV pitchers.

Superior? Not so much.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on January 17, 2008, 09:48:43 AM
I think when you look at the "Big Three" they are all have "weaker" pitching staffs.

Oshkosh-Already went over their short-comings in my previous post. 

Stevens Point-They return Brandon Hemstead, however I have heard that he has some shoulder problems and had surgery around Thanksgiving.  If that is the case, both Kempf and Thurn will need to step up in a big way to carry the load. 

Whitewater-Returns Jacobson (the only pitcher on the staff with an ERA under 4.00 (3.84)) but after that it is slim pickings.  There is a reason he threw over 30 more innings (79.2) than anyone else on the staff (47.1) last season.  They lost their #3 (in terms of IP) to graduation as well (Grutzmacher-42.1 IP.)

Again, depending on recruits/transfers, 13-12 games may be the norm this season with the lack of returing quality pitchers.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on January 17, 2008, 12:52:58 PM
Quote from: cubs on January 17, 2008, 09:48:43 AM
I think when you look at the "Big Three" they are all have "weaker" pitching staffs.

Oshkosh-Already went over their short-comings in my previous post. 

Stevens Point-They return Brandon Hemstead, however I have heard that he has some shoulder problems and had surgery around Thanksgiving.  If that is the case, both Kempf and Thurn will need to step up in a big way to carry the load. 

Whitewater-Returns Jacobson (the only pitcher on the staff with an ERA under 4.00 (3.84)) but after that it is slim pickings.  There is a reason he threw over 30 more innings (79.2) than anyone else on the staff (47.1) last season.  They lost their #3 (in terms of IP) to graduation as well (Grutzmacher-42.1 IP.)

Again, depending on recruits/transfers, 13-12 games may be the norm this season with the lack of returing quality pitchers.



As for the Whitewater staff, Jacobson is a bulldog who, in terms of talent, put up below-average numbers last year. I think he'll bounce back and lead the staff better than last year.

Aaron Dott is the key. That dude can pitch. I have no idea what happened to him last year, but I would be surprised if he didn't make a push for all-conference, if not make the first team.

After those two starters, WW still has depth. Granted, Grutzmacher is a big loss. But Wong, Johnson, Dominick and Severson all have outstanding stuff. And WW still has other decent pitchers like Riek, Harves and Greg Donovan.

Jake, Johnson and Dominick have all been through the league a few times. I think that matters. Then add Dott, Wong and Severson? I don't think another WIAC team can beat that. Jake might not be the best No. 1 pitcher in the league, but the other pitchers are either solid or have a lot of potential.

I'm with you on the rest. Some very good lineups and questionable pitching in the WIAC.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on January 17, 2008, 02:53:57 PM
You have much higher expectations for the Whitewater pitching staff than I do......

I just can't get too high on some of these guys who finished last season with ERA's between 5.50-7.00 or higher.  The majority have a BA against around .300 or higher.

Dott-5.65 ERA .294 BAA
Johnson-6.19, .329
Dominick-5.32, .295
Severson-6.94, .244 (11 BB, 6 K)
Wong-7.18. .346
Riek-6.33, .341
G. Donovan-7.20, .300
Harves-7.36, .349

Comparing numbers to the other staffs around the WIAC, these numbers aren't any better than anyone else's.  The only difference, is that they return more arms, which doesn't really help unless they are quality, which I think the numbers show otherwise.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 17, 2008, 03:16:44 PM
Since many of the WIACers are expecting high scoring games, the pitching stats are not a surprise. The WIAC has always been known to produce some great hitters that can quickly skew an ERA or two.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on January 31, 2008, 01:03:23 PM
Kris Edwards for Whitewater had a solid freshman season in 2006 with a 4.97 ERA...last year he had an injured arm or elbow...will he be back in 2008?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gustie13 on February 01, 2008, 02:18:06 PM
Keith Law of ESPN has Zimmerman ranked #83 in his list of MLB prospects:

http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/insider/columns/story?columnist=law_keith&id=3222287 (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/insider/columns/story?columnist=law_keith&id=3222287)

"Zimmerman has a chance for four solid-average pitches and excellent control, projecting as a No. 3 starter if his command improves. He's very athletic and has a loose, fluid arm action, and wasn't worked as hard as most college pitchers due to a broken jaw in his final spring in school."
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: webjem on February 07, 2008, 09:12:47 AM
STEVENSPOINT IS STILL THE TEAM TO BEAT IN THE WIAC. THEY RETURN 6 SENIOR STARTERS TO THEIR EVERYDAY LINEUP, PLUS 3 SENIOR STARTING PITCHERS. THE SENIORS ARE VETERANS OF TOURNAMENT PLAY INCLUDING COMPETING IN TWO WORLD SERIES. THIS TEAM KNOWS WHAT IT TAKES TO WIN AND THEY ARE DEEP IN TALENT. OSHKOSH, I BELIEVE, IS A YEAR AWAY FROM BEING VERY GOOD. THEIR PITCHING NEEDS TO JELL QUICKLY FOR THEM TO COMPETE THIS YEAR. THE REST OF THE LEAGUE IS UP FOR GRABS. FORGET WHITEWATER, TO MANY INTERNAL PROBLEMS. LOOK FOR STOUT TO COMPETE.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 07, 2008, 04:20:13 PM
Quote from: webjem on February 07, 2008, 09:12:47 AM
STEVENSPOINT IS STILL THE TEAM TO BEAT IN THE WIAC. THEY RETURN 6 SENIOR STARTERS TO THEIR EVERYDAY LINEUP, PLUS 3 SENIOR STARTING PITCHERS. THE SENIORS ARE VETERANS OF TOURNAMENT PLAY INCLUDING COMPETING IN TWO WORLD SERIES. THIS TEAM KNOWS WHAT IT TAKES TO WIN AND THEY ARE DEEP IN TALENT. OSHKOSH, I BELIEVE, IS A YEAR AWAY FROM BEING VERY GOOD. THEIR PITCHING NEEDS TO JELL QUICKLY FOR THEM TO COMPETE THIS YEAR. THE REST OF THE LEAGUE IS UP FOR GRABS. FORGET WHITEWATER, TO MANY INTERNAL PROBLEMS. LOOK FOR STOUT TO COMPETE.

Disagreement is good, and I disagree with most of your post.

But you can't just leave us hanging. Care to elaborate on this intriguing nugget?

Welcome to the board.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 09, 2008, 11:51:11 AM
Quote from: webjem on February 08, 2008, 01:34:54 AM
WORD IS OUT ON THE WHITEWATER PROGRAM, RECRUITS ARE NOW GOING TO PROGRAMS WHERE BASEBALL IS STILL A GAME. PLAYERS GO TO STEVENSPOINT AND THEY STAY WITH THE PROGRAM FOR FOUR YEARS (SEVEN SENIORS THIS YEAR IN THEIR FOURTH YEAR WITH THE TEAM). OSHKOSH AND STEVENSPOINT HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN RECENT YEARS BECAUSE THEY PLAY WITH THEIR HEARTS NOT THEIR MOUTHS. PLAYERS ACTIONS ON AND OFF THE FIELD ARE A REFLECTION OF THEIR COACH, NUFF SAID. THIS IS WHY I FEEL THAT POINT WILL BE SUCCESSFUL AGAIN THIS YEAR BECAUSE THE CORE OF THE TEAM HAVE BEEN TOGETHER FOR YEARS. .OSHKOSH IS A VERY TALENTED TEAM. LEIGHTON IS THE BEST SHORTSTOP IN THE LEAGUE, FOSLER AND DEMMIN ARE TWO OF THE MOST FEARED HIITERS. WHEN THEIR PITCHING MATURES AND FADNESS RETURNS, THEY WILL BE A COMPLETE TEAM. OSHKOSH WILL WIN ALOT OF GAMES THIS YEAR BUT THEY WILL BE BETTER NEXT YEAR. STOUT AND SUPERIOR WILL CONTINUE TO IMPROVE, THE COACHES ARE DOING A NICE JOB WITH THOSE PROGRAMS.
webjem, Welcome to the message boards.  The WIAC is always a great message board.  They have a large group of loyal fans that provide good information.

Also, please review the Terms of Service agreement that you saw when you signed on.  The use of ALL CAPS is strongly discouraged.
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Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: webjem on February 09, 2008, 12:46:41 PM
My pre-season picks for players to watch this season, by position. catcher-Krause  Stout. 1B-Bennett  Platteville. 2B-Schlosser  Stevens Point. SS-Leighton  Oshkosh. 3B-Stace  Stout. OF-Fosler  Oshkosh,  Scheidler Stevens Point,  Corcoran  Whitewater. DH-Coe  Stevens Point. Pitchers-Thrun  Stevens Point,  Hemstead  Stevens Point,  Jacobson  Whitewater,  Benitz  La Crosse. Any comments or additions?? I'm always looking for good players to watch around the league.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 09, 2008, 01:38:52 PM
It's alright -- the ALL CAPS is considered shouting in message board circles so we discourage it. No harm no foul on one post. :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 11, 2008, 06:08:13 AM
webjem- Am I right, that you're picking yourself as a "pitcher to watch"?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 11, 2008, 09:09:18 AM
Quote from: webjem on February 07, 2008, 09:12:47 AM
STEVENSPOINT IS STILL THE TEAM TO BEAT IN THE WIAC. THEY RETURN 6 SENIOR STARTERS TO THEIR EVERYDAY LINEUP, PLUS 3 SENIOR STARTING PITCHERS. THE SENIORS ARE VETERANS OF TOURNAMENT PLAY INCLUDING COMPETING IN TWO WORLD SERIES. THIS TEAM KNOWS WHAT IT TAKES TO WIN AND THEY ARE DEEP IN TALENT. OSHKOSH, I BELIEVE, IS A YEAR AWAY FROM BEING VERY GOOD. THEIR PITCHING NEEDS TO JELL QUICKLY FOR THEM TO COMPETE THIS YEAR. THE REST OF THE LEAGUE IS UP FOR GRABS. FORGET WHITEWATER, TO MANY INTERNAL PROBLEMS. LOOK FOR STOUT TO COMPETE.
I would hope you feel that Stevens Point is best team in the WIAC considering you pitch for them......  I can see you aren't lacking any confidence. ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on February 11, 2008, 10:45:51 AM
I'd be interested in knowing just what "internal problems" exist at WHITEWATER
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 11, 2008, 05:37:40 PM
Quote from: cubs on February 11, 2008, 09:09:18 AM
Quote from: webjem on February 07, 2008, 09:12:47 AM
STEVENSPOINT IS STILL THE TEAM TO BEAT IN THE WIAC. THEY RETURN 6 SENIOR STARTERS TO THEIR EVERYDAY LINEUP, PLUS 3 SENIOR STARTING PITCHERS. THE SENIORS ARE VETERANS OF TOURNAMENT PLAY INCLUDING COMPETING IN TWO WORLD SERIES. THIS TEAM KNOWS WHAT IT TAKES TO WIN AND THEY ARE DEEP IN TALENT. OSHKOSH, I BELIEVE, IS A YEAR AWAY FROM BEING VERY GOOD. THEIR PITCHING NEEDS TO JELL QUICKLY FOR THEM TO COMPETE THIS YEAR. THE REST OF THE LEAGUE IS UP FOR GRABS. FORGET WHITEWATER, TO MANY INTERNAL PROBLEMS. LOOK FOR STOUT TO COMPETE.
I would hope you feel that Stevens Point is best team in the WIAC considering you pitch for them......  I can see you aren't lacking any confidence. ::)

webjem's e-mail is not for a UWSP pitcher. It's for a UW-Madison employee or student.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 11, 2008, 07:55:45 PM
Aha, there's a BW who works for UW who was born in 55. Dad, is that you? Actually, it's nothing to be ashamed of, the kid is damn good.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 11, 2008, 10:21:26 PM
Quote from: janesvilleflash on February 11, 2008, 07:55:45 PM
the kid is damn good.
I would agree with you but with one "minor" word change......

He has been damn good in the past......  Will he be damn good this season?  I'm not sure.  You never know how pitchers are going to perform following surgery, and Hemstead reportedly had shoulder surgery around Thanksgiving.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 11, 2008, 10:22:18 PM
Quote from: OshDude on February 11, 2008, 05:37:40 PM
Quote from: cubs on February 11, 2008, 09:09:18 AM
Quote from: webjem on February 07, 2008, 09:12:47 AM
STEVENSPOINT IS STILL THE TEAM TO BEAT IN THE WIAC. THEY RETURN 6 SENIOR STARTERS TO THEIR EVERYDAY LINEUP, PLUS 3 SENIOR STARTING PITCHERS. THE SENIORS ARE VETERANS OF TOURNAMENT PLAY INCLUDING COMPETING IN TWO WORLD SERIES. THIS TEAM KNOWS WHAT IT TAKES TO WIN AND THEY ARE DEEP IN TALENT. OSHKOSH, I BELIEVE, IS A YEAR AWAY FROM BEING VERY GOOD. THEIR PITCHING NEEDS TO JELL QUICKLY FOR THEM TO COMPETE THIS YEAR. THE REST OF THE LEAGUE IS UP FOR GRABS. FORGET WHITEWATER, TO MANY INTERNAL PROBLEMS. LOOK FOR STOUT TO COMPETE.
I would hope you feel that Stevens Point is best team in the WIAC considering you pitch for them......  I can see you aren't lacking any confidence. ::)
webjem's e-mail is not for a UWSP pitcher. It's for a UW-Madison employee or student.
My apologies for assuming incorrectly....... :-[
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 11, 2008, 11:31:34 PM
Quote from: janesvilleflash on February 11, 2008, 07:55:45 PM
Aha, there's a BW who works for UW who was born in 55. Dad, is that you? Actually, it's nothing to be ashamed of, the kid is damn good.

Was wondering if anyone would look into like I did  :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: webjem on February 12, 2008, 06:14:37 PM
The question still remains to be answered, who are the players in the WIAC  that I should see play as I travel across the state? Anyone who knows players from their area or from a team they follow, please respond. The WIAC has always been full of talented and entertaining players and coaches and I enjoy taking in a lot of games.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 12, 2008, 11:10:50 PM
Quote from: webjem on February 09, 2008, 12:46:41 PM
My pre-season picks for players to watch this season, by position. catcher-Krause  Stout. 1B-Bennett  Platteville. 2B-Schlosser  Stevens Point. SS-Leighton  Oshkosh. 3B-Stace  Stout. OF-Fosler  Oshkosh,  Scheidler Stevens Point,  Corcoran  Whitewater. DH-Coe  Stevens Point. Pitchers-Thrun  Stevens Point,  Hemstead  Stevens Point,  Jacobson  Whitewater,  Benitz  La Crosse. Any comments or additions?? I'm always looking for good players to watch around the league.

Besides the ones you listed (Coe is probably my favorite current WIAC player to watch, especially behind the plate), I like to watch these players, assuming they're still on their respective teams.
La Crosse: Storm Gram, Dusty Otto
Oshkosh: Brad and Ryan Demmin, Mike Waupoose, Jeremy Rubens, Mickey Fadness
Platteville: Mike Kuhn, Joe Lange
Stevens Point: Garrett Nix, Jeff Zielke, Brad Archambeau
Stout: Erik Johnson, Greg Smolinski, Tanner Kottre, Matt Doornink
Superior: Billy Tafs
Whitewater: Greg Harder, Aaron Dott, Tony Wong, Sam Petrasko, Matt Schliewe
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on February 13, 2008, 08:42:55 PM
Someone want to rank the WIAC

I would guess it would be something like this or similar

Stevens Point
Oshkosh
Whitewater
Stout
La Crosse
Platteville
UWS--
its good to see UWS make some improvement last year and think they will improve even more this year with their huge influx of freshman and junior college transers
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: webjem on February 14, 2008, 08:57:54 PM
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Besides the ones you listed (Coe is probably my favorite current WIAC player to watch, especially behind the plate), I like to watch these players, assuming they're still on their respective teams.
La Crosse: Storm Gram, Dusty Otto
Oshkosh: Brad and Ryan Demmin, Mike Waupoose, Jeremy Rubens, Mickey Fadness
Platteville: Mike Kuhn, Joe Lange
Stevens Point: Garrett Nix, Jeff Zielke, Brad Archambeau
Stout: Erik Johnson, Greg Smolinski, Tanner Kottre, Matt Doornink
Superior: Billy Tafs
Whitewater: Greg Harder, Aaron Dott, Tony Wong, Sam Petrasko, Matt Schliewe

Thanks for your list of players. you must be a baseball freak like myself!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: webjem on February 14, 2008, 09:06:32 PM
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its good to see UWS make some improvement last year and think they will improve even more this year with their huge influx of freshman and junior college transers

Coach Morgan will do a fine job with this program.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gustie13 on February 19, 2008, 09:03:23 AM
Can someone fill me in on Garret Nix? The Midwest preview named him as a "Top MLB Prospect" but his stats seem unimpressive. From his high SO, HBP, and WP totals I assume he throws gas...?
thanks
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on February 19, 2008, 01:21:23 PM
Quote from: Gustie13 on February 19, 2008, 09:03:23 AM
Can someone fill me in on Garret Nix? The Midwest preview named him as a "Top MLB Prospect" but his stats seem unimpressive. From his high SO, HBP, and WP totals I assume he throws gas...?
thanks

Baseball America tabbed him as a top prospect.  MLB teams are always looking at different things other than raw stats.

TOP PROSPECTS, 2008 DRAFT
1. Blake Booher, rhp, Texas-Tyler
2. Garrett Nix, rhp, Wisconsin-Stevens Point
3. Drew Mandelblatt, of, Pomona Pitzer (Calif.)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 20, 2008, 08:04:40 AM
Some speed in the WW outfield?

http://wisconsinpreps.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=755103
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on February 20, 2008, 10:25:42 AM
This addition along with the return of Prather, Petrasko, Stine and Schliewe gives WW a pretty decent set of outfielders.   Schliewe won't win too many foot races but Prather, Petrasko and Stine have pretty decent speed.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 20, 2008, 05:51:03 PM
Quote from: janesvilleflash on February 20, 2008, 08:04:40 AM
Some speed in the WW outfield?

http://wisconsinpreps.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=755103

My only concern is he said he chose WW in part because of its "great journalism program." Too bad he didn't choose the "best journalism program," which is at Oshkosh.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on February 20, 2008, 07:46:51 PM
Quote from: OshDude on February 20, 2008, 05:51:03 PM
Quote from: janesvilleflash on February 20, 2008, 08:04:40 AM
Some speed in the WW outfield?

http://wisconsinpreps.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=755103

My only concern is he said he chose WW in part because of its "great journalism program." Too bad he didn't choose the "best journalism program," which is at Oshkosh.

Maybe their outfield was already full. I'll let you explore which was more important for a kid transferring from D-I with one year of eligibility left.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 20, 2008, 10:07:18 PM
Quote from: Spence on February 20, 2008, 07:46:51 PM
Quote from: OshDude on February 20, 2008, 05:51:03 PM
Quote from: janesvilleflash on February 20, 2008, 08:04:40 AM
Some speed in the WW outfield?

http://wisconsinpreps.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=755103

My only concern is he said he chose WW in part because of its "great journalism program." Too bad he didn't choose the "best journalism program," which is at Oshkosh.

Maybe their outfield was already full. I'll let you explore which was more important for a kid transferring from D-I with one year of eligibility left.

Do I really need to use smiley faces? Turn it down a notch.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on February 21, 2008, 08:36:57 PM
Quote from: OshDude on February 20, 2008, 10:07:18 PM
Quote from: Spence on February 20, 2008, 07:46:51 PM
Quote from: OshDude on February 20, 2008, 05:51:03 PM
Quote from: janesvilleflash on February 20, 2008, 08:04:40 AM
Some speed in the WW outfield?

http://wisconsinpreps.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=755103

My only concern is he said he chose WW in part because of its "great journalism program." Too bad he didn't choose the "best journalism program," which is at Oshkosh.

Maybe their outfield was already full. I'll let you explore which was more important for a kid transferring from D-I with one year of eligibility left.

Do I really need to use smiley faces? Turn it down a notch.

Just saying...transferring does not help with regard to academic progress if you keep the same major. So the academically most responsible thing to do would have been to stay where he was, and that he's transferring with one year to in a degree program tells me that there were other reasons, which seems fairly obvious.

I guess I just picked up on an empty BS quote and called it out for what it is.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 21, 2008, 10:23:58 PM
Quote from: Spence on February 21, 2008, 08:36:57 PM
Quote from: OshDude on February 20, 2008, 10:07:18 PM
Quote from: Spence on February 20, 2008, 07:46:51 PM
Quote from: OshDude on February 20, 2008, 05:51:03 PM
Quote from: janesvilleflash on February 20, 2008, 08:04:40 AM
Some speed in the WW outfield?

http://wisconsinpreps.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=755103

My only concern is he said he chose WW in part because of its "great journalism program." Too bad he didn't choose the "best journalism program," which is at Oshkosh.

Maybe their outfield was already full. I'll let you explore which was more important for a kid transferring from D-I with one year of eligibility left.

Do I really need to use smiley faces? Turn it down a notch.

Just saying...transferring does not help with regard to academic progress if you keep the same major. So the academically most responsible thing to do would have been to stay where he was, and that he's transferring with one year to in a degree program tells me that there were other reasons, which seems fairly obvious.

I guess I just picked up on an empty BS quote and called it out for what it is.

What's BS and empty is your capability to see a intrastate jab when you see one. Why be difficult? Because you can? Lame.

Nowhere was I even remotely writing about what you are now writing. You can go on having an argument by yourself, debate captain.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 22, 2008, 09:32:42 AM
Quote from: webjem on February 12, 2008, 06:14:37 PM
The question still remains to be answered, who are the players in the WIAC  that I should see play as I travel across the state? Anyone who knows players from their area or from a team they follow, please respond. The WIAC has always been full of talented and entertaining players and coaches and I enjoy taking in a lot of games.

Speaking of questions that remain to be answered, just what internal problems at WW were you referring to, and did the pitcher we have been talking about have surgery, and if so, how is he doing? (100% I hope)
Title: Best way to follow the WIAC via Radio or TV or Internet?
Post by: for2n8john on February 26, 2008, 09:46:17 AM
Just found this DB and am glad to see like minded people interested in D3 Baseball.  I wondering what access there is to broadcasts of Baseball games in the WIAC via radio, internet or TV.  I just got DishTV because they carry FSN- North.  I understand FSN - Wisc will carry some games but don't see that as a channel option.  Any one got any resources or way of getting FSN- Wisc using on-demand services? 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on February 28, 2008, 09:48:43 AM
Whitewater roster is out:

http://www.uwwsports.com/roster.asp?path=baseball
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gashouse_Gang on February 28, 2008, 01:01:09 PM
Point's Roster

http://athletics.uwsp.edu/roster.asp?path=baseball

UWP's Roster

http://www.uwplatt.edu/athletics/baseball/2008/roster.html

LaCrosse's Roster

http://perth.uwlax.edu/Athletics/mbaseball/roster/

Stout's Roster

http://www.uwstout.edu/athletics/baseball/bbroster.htm

Superior's Roster

http://www.uwsuper.edu/athletics/mens/baseball/roster.asp



Oshkosh has yet to put up a roster, notorious for waiting until last second.




Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gashouse_Gang on February 28, 2008, 01:20:42 PM
Anyone notice any suprise additions to WIAC rosters this year?

Any impact freshman or transfers on rosters?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 28, 2008, 03:18:51 PM
Quote from: Gashouse_Gang on February 28, 2008, 01:20:42 PM
Anyone notice any suprise additions to WIAC rosters this year?

Any impact freshman or transfers on rosters?

Point: Soph OF Sam Spurney, a transfer from Oshkosh, could play a key role this season. Also liked frosh OF Jared Surman when he played in high school.

Platteville: Don't know if he'll get much time this year, but frosh IF Brett Benesh is a nice addition.

Oshkosh (EDIT): Frosh OF Blake Berger should hit a ton. That guy can rake.
I see frosh P Evan Matson getting meaningful innings.
Frosh 2B Nolan Fadness should win the starting job (with Kyle Kannenberg moving to 3B). In time, he could be better than his brother, Mickey.
There are a few other frosh pitchers who will have to get innings, but I can't pick out the best among the bunch.

Whitewater (EDIT): MATC junior transfer Steve Hedgepath should get some innings.
Junior P/OF Joe Munn was drafted in the 30th round out of HS, so I'd expect him to be a contributor.
Frosh P Jason Hooper is large and throws hard, but I don't know where he is in the pecking order. My guess is he's a year away from contributing.
Frosh 1B Tom Zimmerman is probably a year away as well, although he was a monster in high school, hitting nearly .500 with decent power potential.
Ditto for frosh P Bryant Ganser, who was a stud in HS with a 10-1 record in 11 starts, 1.10 ERA, 110 Ks in 72 IP and 34 hits allowed.

I know nothing of the mostly Minnesota and western Wisconsin recruits who are at Stout, Superior and La Crosse. Anyone have an opinion on those guys?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on February 28, 2008, 10:30:17 PM
Some JUCO guys to watch at UWS

Joey Hostrawser - 3B/P - Iowa Central
Tim Bouvine - P -Wisconsin Milwaukee/Mesabi Range CC
Justin Saufley P/IF - Minnesota West CC
Scott Hoium - IF - Mesabi Range CC
Nate Hedley - 3B/P - Madison Area TC/Mesabi Range
Nick Hedley - 1B - Madison Area TC/Mesabi Range
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on March 01, 2008, 07:18:23 PM
Quote from: Slinger45 on February 28, 2008, 10:30:17 PM
Some JUCO guys to watch at UWS

Joey Hostrawser - 3B/P - Iowa Central
Tim Bouvine - P -Wisconsin Milwaukee/Mesabi Range CC
Justin Saufley P/IF - Minnesota West CC
Scott Hoium - IF - Mesabi Range CC
Nate Hedley - 3B/P - Madison Area TC/Mesabi Range
Nick Hedley - 1B - Madison Area TC/Mesabi Range


These will be some great additions for UWS.
Bouvine and Hedley brothers will be great additions and wouldnt be surprised if they go directly into the starting line up/pitching rotation.

Tim Bouvine could be a #1 starter considering he started his career at a D1 school. Dont really know what happened to him for a couple years because he is older.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on March 01, 2008, 07:50:24 PM
Bouvine and Saufley will be the 1 and 2 starters, order yet to be determined.
Hostrawser would be in the group as well, but is rehabbing from injury and should start the year in the pen.
3B is probably the deepest position on the roster and there will be a lot of competition with others moving around to get their bats in the lineup as well.

Bouvine had labrum/rotator cuff surgery so that is the reason he is older.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on March 01, 2008, 08:21:29 PM
Quote from: Slinger45 on March 01, 2008, 07:50:24 PM
Bouvine and Saufley will be the 1 and 2 starters, order yet to be determined.
Hostrawser would be in the group as well, but is rehabbing from injury and should start the year in the pen.
3B is probably the deepest position on the roster and there will be a lot of competition with others moving around to get their bats in the lineup as well.

Bouvine had labrum/rotator cuff surgery so that is the reason he is older.

Dont know Saufley, but Bouvine was pretty good in high school and threw with pretty good velocity from the side if i remember correctly. Be interesting to see if his surgery affected that.

I think Eddy Morgan is doing a great job and has that program going the right direction
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on March 01, 2008, 08:23:30 PM
Haha well its weird for me talking in the third person so I might as well let the cat out of the bag that im Tim....where you from MIAC?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on March 01, 2008, 09:10:32 PM
Well I will keep the cat in the bag, but I am from the Duluth area so I know the area players well and know your high school team had a great rotation with you, Ritsche and Erickson. I was involved with a d3 program so I know the wiac, umac, and miac pretty well.

I hope you guys have a good year and can make your way up the wiac standings some
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 02, 2008, 12:40:49 AM
Whitewater kicked off the season last night, sweeping Edgewood College 4-3 (8 inn.) and 10-4 at the Metrodome.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 02, 2008, 03:07:19 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on March 02, 2008, 12:40:49 AM
Whitewater kicked off the season last night, sweeping Edgewood College 4-3 (8 inn.) and 10-4 at the Metrodome.

Not to read too much into it, but Dott started the first game for WW. Jake got the ball in game two, and he didn't last long.

Dominick and Munn had great lines in relief. Interested to hear the story of how Munn wound up at WW via California. That's a rare D-III trek.

Anyone know whether Schliewe is hurt or is now a reserve player? I thought Billy Johnson would play 2B and Schliewe would play C again.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 02, 2008, 10:01:19 PM
Quote from: janesvilleflash on February 20, 2008, 08:04:40 AM
Some speed in the WW outfield?

http://wisconsinpreps.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=755103
Guess not, as he is not even listed on Whitewater's 2008 roster.......
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 02, 2008, 10:08:36 PM
Quote from: OshDude on March 02, 2008, 03:07:19 PM
Interested to hear the story of how Munn wound up at WW via California. That's a rare D-III trek.
Maybe it was a package deal along with QB Danny Jones..... ;D

What was meant to be a joke, may actually have some truth to it.....  I just noticed they are both from Pleasanton, CA (although they attended different high schools.)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 03, 2008, 01:00:24 AM
Quote from: cubs on January 17, 2008, 02:53:57 PM
You have much higher expectations for the Whitewater pitching staff than I do......

I just can't get too high on some of these guys who finished last season with ERA's between 5.50-7.00 or higher.  The majority have a BA against around .300 or higher.

Dott-5.65 ERA .294 BAA
Johnson-6.19, .329
Dominick-5.32, .295
Severson-6.94, .244 (11 BB, 6 K)
Wong-7.18. .346
Riek-6.33, .341
G. Donovan-7.20, .300
Harves-7.36, .349

Comparing numbers to the other staffs around the WIAC, these numbers aren't any better than anyone else's.  The only difference, is that they return more arms, which doesn't really help unless they are quality, which I think the numbers show otherwise.

Guess we'll have to look elsewhere for Wong (not sure where) and Severson (St. Thomas), although I'm fairly certain I'm right about Dott.

Not the worst tradeoff for the Warhawks when you turn Wong and Severson into Munn (former draft pick), Hedgepath (decent arm from MATC) and Hooper and Ganser (two awesome HS Ps).

EDIT: Justin Dahmen transferred from Whitewater to Edgewood, who opened the season against each other. Dahmen didn't even get plunked. Too bad Tomasiewicz wasn't available out of the pen in a blowout ;). Then again Dahmen isn't Josh Shere.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 03, 2008, 09:21:08 AM
Quote from: cubs on March 02, 2008, 10:01:19 PM
Quote from: janesvilleflash on February 20, 2008, 08:04:40 AM
Some speed in the WW outfield?

http://wisconsinpreps.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=755103
Guess not, as he is not even listed on Whitewater's 2008 roster.......

Is he enrolled?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gashouse_Gang on March 03, 2008, 10:46:00 AM
UWO's Roster finally posted;

http://www.titans.uwosh.edu/Baseball/Roster.html

Any suprises here? New studs to the roster?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 03, 2008, 06:05:55 PM
Quote from: Gashouse_Gang on March 03, 2008, 10:46:00 AM
UWO's Roster finally posted;

http://www.titans.uwosh.edu/Baseball/Roster.html

Any suprises here? New studs to the roster?

Go back a page or two for my thoughts.
Title: Re: Best way to follow the WIAC via Radio or TV or Internet?
Post by: Just Bill on March 03, 2008, 08:20:33 PM
The On-Demand service is only available through Charter, so you're out of luck.

FSN-Wisconsin and FSN-Minnesota are sub-channels of FSN-North (Ch. 438 on Dish Network which is what I have. I don't know what it is on Direct TV).  Most of the time they have the same programming.  When FSN-Wisconsin shows something different than FSN-Minnesota, those games will usually appear on the "Sports Alternate" channels 445-450.  But sometimes, they won't be there and you'll be stuck with FSN-Minnesota programming.

If your only goal was maximum WIAC sports, then you should have gone with Charter Expanded Basic so you got FSN-North (on Charter you get nothing but FSN-Wisconsin programming) plus the On Demand games.

Of course, then you wouldn't get Big Ten Network or NFL Network, but that's a WHOLE 'nother debate.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 04, 2008, 01:43:28 AM
Quote from: OshDude on February 28, 2008, 03:18:51 PM
Quote from: Gashouse_Gang on February 28, 2008, 01:20:42 PM
Anyone notice any suprise additions to WIAC rosters this year?

Any impact freshman or transfers on rosters?

Point: Soph OF Sam Spurney, a transfer from Oshkosh, could play a key role this season. Also liked frosh OF Jared Surman when he played in high school.

Platteville: Don't know if he'll get much time this year, but frosh IF Brett Benesh is a nice addition.

Oshkosh (EDIT): Frosh OF Blake Berger should hit a ton. That guy can rake.
I see frosh P Evan Matson getting meaningful innings.
Frosh 2B Nolan Fadness should win the starting job (with Kyle Kannenberg moving to 3B). In time, he could be better than his brother, Mickey.
There are a few other frosh pitchers who will have to get innings, but I can't pick out the best among the bunch.

Whitewater (EDIT): MATC junior transfer Steve Hedgepath should get some innings.
Junior P/OF Joe Munn was drafted in the 30th round out of HS, so I'd expect him to be a contributor.
Frosh P Jason Hooper is large and throws hard, but I don't know where he is in the pecking order. My guess is he's a year away from contributing.
Frosh 1B Tom Zimmerman is probably a year away as well, although he was a monster in high school, hitting nearly .500 with decent power potential.
Ditto for frosh P Bryant Ganser, who was a stud in HS with a 10-1 record in 11 starts, 1.10 ERA, 110 Ks in 72 IP and 34 hits allowed.

I know nothing of the mostly Minnesota and western Wisconsin recruits who are at Stout, Superior and La Crosse. Anyone have an opinion on those guys?

I missed Parkside transfer and Point 1B Brad Frank. Gotta include the cleanup hitter for a top-10 team, I guess  :).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on March 05, 2008, 04:55:01 PM
UWS opened up their season today with a sweep of Morningside College 4-2 and 1-0

Tim Bouvine pitched game 1 - CG (7 ip) 4 h 6 k 1 bb 2 r 0 er
Justin Saufley pitched game 2 - CG (7 ip) 2 h 6 k 2 bb 0 r

Dont have the batting stats in front of me but Sean Cummings and Paul Schlangen both had triples and Joey Hostrawser had a 2 run double.  Ryan Leer had a few very nice plays in centerfield.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on March 05, 2008, 06:25:46 PM
Quote from: Slinger45 on March 05, 2008, 04:55:01 PM
UWS opened up their season today with a sweep of Morningside College 4-2 and 1-0

Tim Bouvine pitched game 1 - CG (7 ip) 4 h 6 k 1 bb 2 r 0 er
Justin Saufley pitched game 2 - CG (7 ip) 2 h 6 k 2 bb 0 r

Dont have the batting stats in front of me but Sean Cummings and Paul Schlangen both had triples and Joey Hostrawser had a 2 run double.  Ryan Leer had a few very nice plays in centerfield.

Nice wins for UWS, nice for them to start off 2-0. Morningside is a decent NAIA team too!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: for2n8john on March 05, 2008, 07:16:55 PM
"If your only goal was maximum WIAC sports, then you should have gone with Charter Expanded Basic so you got FSN-North (on Charter you get nothing but FSN-Wisconsin programming) plus the On Demand games."


Thanks JustBill.  I didn't have Charter as an option since I'm in Illinois.  I have Dish now and am hoping that I'll be able to see a couple of games this way.  I heard that FSN_Wis is going to tape a few games put it directly into the "on-demand" menu without airing them.  Unfortunately, when FSN-Central shows an WIAC game its 1:00am-3am time slot during the week.


Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 06, 2008, 09:29:18 AM
Quote from: for2n8john on March 05, 2008, 07:16:55 PM
"If your only goal was maximum WIAC sports, then you should have gone with Charter Expanded Basic so you got FSN-North (on Charter you get nothing but FSN-Wisconsin programming) plus the On Demand games."


Thanks JustBill.  I didn't have Charter as an option since I'm in Illinois.  I have Dish now and am hoping that I'll be able to see a couple of games this way.  I heard that FSN_Wis is going to tape a few games put it directly into the "on-demand" menu without airing them.  Unfortunately, when FSN-Central shows an WIAC game its 1:00am-3am time slot during the week.

Upgrade to the DVR and it's no problem.  It's totally worth it.  I don't know how I survived before without.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 08, 2008, 05:52:32 PM
Oshkosh splits with Luther – W 7-5, L 5-9. UWO pitchers (Luther had 20 combined hits) and the defense (four errors, seven unearned runs in the two games) struggled. Thought it must be said that Luther committed five errors, which led to six unearned runs scored by Oshkosh.

Pretty ugly boxscores. But I wasn't there, so I can't say for sure how ugly it was. Rubens gave up a lot of hits and didn't make it out of the fourth inning in game two. Not a good sign for UWO.

EDIT: The loss will not count against UWO (nor the Luther win) because the second game ended due to a time limit and the teams didn't complete six full innings.

UWO is 3-0 on the season. Luther is 0-1.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 10, 2008, 11:02:41 AM
The WARHAWKS  took on Augsburg College in the MetroDome Friday night and split the doublehitter. 

Adam Dominick pitched five complete innings surrendering a single hit and Kale Olson and Aaron Dott finished the game allowing 3 hits and striking out 5.  Tom Corcoran went 3x4 with a double, triple, 2 RBI's and 2 RS in the 8-0 win.

Randy Johnson took the loss in game two despite throwing five complete with 6 strikeouts and allowing only 4 hits.   Augusburg pushed a run across in the fourth and padded the lead with five runs in the sixth on 2 walks, 3 errors and a wild pitch.  The final was 6-2.

WW is 3-1 and idle until 3/19. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on March 10, 2008, 01:04:18 PM
Joey Hostrawser of UWS threw his first bullpen to live hitters Sunday night and was 88-89 and even hitting 91.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on March 10, 2008, 06:39:26 PM
Quote from: Slinger45 on March 10, 2008, 01:04:18 PM
Joey Hostrawser of UWS threw his first bullpen to live hitters Sunday night and was 88-89 and even hitting 91.

Hopefully he threw strikes and didnt walk anyone. Thats a really good velocity so hopefully he has the control to go with it and some decent off speed stuff or it wont make that big of difference with the better wiac teams
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on March 10, 2008, 06:52:18 PM
For those who arent aware of Joey...he was all but set to go the U of M until he had UCL problems, after lots of hard work and rehab hes getting towards 100 percent.

From what I say his command was just fine.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: for2n8john on March 17, 2008, 12:47:01 PM
Reporting scores from Phoenix RussMatt tourney:
UW-Stout & LaX are down here, plus a lot of MIAC teams.

Haven't found the boxscore spot on the tourney webpage yet.

UW-Stout beatup Macalester 13-2.  Doornik pitched 6 solid innings.  I think it was 8-1 when he came out.  Everyone from Stout hit.  Mac started a freshman, Yohd(?).   He battled gamely for 4 innings before exiting.

Doubleheader against Augsburg today.  Probably Hansen and vilstrep starting. 
LaX plays  DH against st. Johns today. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on March 17, 2008, 05:43:18 PM
UWS is now 5-1

Swept a doubleheader from Bethany Lutheran Sunday 12-4 and 3-2
Bouvine and Saufley both getting wins to go to 2-0 each

Split a DH with Grinnell College today.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 17, 2008, 08:22:57 PM
Quote from: for2n8john on March 17, 2008, 12:47:01 PM
Haven't found the boxscore spot on the tourney webpage yet.

And you won't either.  These spring break tournaments don't keep boxscores.  You'll have to go school-by-school to find them, and some may not get up until the team returns.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 18, 2008, 07:49:17 PM
Anyone know when/if Point SP Brandon Hemstead will return? Hard to fill out a pitching staff without an all-conference guy. A healthy Hemstead could get Point back on top. I'm actually surprised with how competitive SP's been against some good teams without its horse. Maybe Point will be better than I thought afterall.

But Point really needs to shore up that D. I don't know what the field condidtions are like where they are playing, but 17 errors in seven games obviously isn't getting it done. SP booted nine balls in the DH with Wooster, which didn't exactly pick it either, especially the 3B. SP has a ridiculous .931 FLD%, although opponents have a rather poor .938% themselves.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on March 18, 2008, 08:26:15 PM
Quote from: OshDude on March 18, 2008, 07:49:17 PM
Anyone know when/if Point SP Brandon Hemstead will return? Hard to fill out a pitching staff without an all-conference guy. A healthy Hemstead could get Point back on top. I'm actually surprised with how competitive SP's been against some good teams without its horse. Maybe Point will be better than I thought afterall.

But Point really needs to shore up that D. I don't know what the field condidtions are like where they are playing, but 17 errors in seven games obviously isn't getting it done. SP booted nine balls in the DH with Wooster, which didn't exactly pick it either, especially the 3B. SP has a ridiculous .931 FLD%, although opponents have a rather poor .938% themselves.

Well typically teams are going to have a lot of errors in their first couple games outside because they only get one practice before those games. They have had 15 errors in the 5 outside games. But on the other side 6 errors in a game is no excuse. How do pitchers have that poor of a fielding percentage, so much for pitchers being "athletes"

Stevens Point will be very competitive, they always are with Pat Bloom as coach plus they play a very difficult schedule so a lot of their SP get work against solid teams. But I think they need to go 3-1 in their last 4 games in florida with a split against Otterbein. They dont want to come back from florida with a losing record
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 19, 2008, 06:10:02 PM
The SIDs have spoken. They say hardly anything will change. The baseball predictions have not been hard to do for years, but I hope Superior makes the league more interesting this year.

http://www.uwsa.edu/wiac/baseball/2008prev.html (http://www.uwsa.edu/wiac/baseball/2008prev.html)

The Pointer bats have been speaking lately against some good teams, including roughing up one of the best pitchers in the nation in a loss to Wooster. I think Surman and Spurney will be the keys to keeping the offense rolling.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 20, 2008, 09:24:22 AM
WARHAWKS pick up a 3-2 win over Worcester College in 10 innings.  The winning run came when Tom Corcoran doubled and drove in Jordan Stine who had gotten on base as a hit batter and advanced to scoring position on a wild pitch.  Adam Dominick threw six solid innings before being relieved by Kale Olson who picked up the win.  Billy Johnson was credited with a save.   WW improves to 4-1 and faces Jamestown Community College today.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 20, 2008, 09:33:43 AM
BW,

Is that a Varsity Reserve game against JCC?  You can't play a 2-year school and have it count on your record.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 20, 2008, 10:40:33 AM
The schedule reads Jamestown CC (varsity reserve).  I didn't know if that means they're sending their reserves to play us, reserves to play reserves or what exactly.  We also play them again on 3/25 and the schedule reads the same. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 20, 2008, 12:41:40 PM
I would guess that UWW is playing their reserves against JCC.  NCAA teams can't count games against Community Colleges on their records, but a lot of them play reserve games in Florida to get more guys playing time.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gashouse_Gang on March 21, 2008, 10:01:21 AM
Yes, I beleive the juco games listed for UWW are played using UWW's reserves. 

Billy Johnson was given credit for the save vs. Worchester, was a misprint save should go to his brother, Randy.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on March 22, 2008, 03:31:10 AM
Whitewater (6-1) takes 2 from Bethel (3-5) in Port Charlotte, FL. 5-0 and 2-1 (http://www.uwwsports.com/news/baseball/2008/3/21/baseball_03212008_Bethel.asp).  The Warhawks next game will be a varsity reserve match Saturday, March 22, against Bethel in Port Charlotte, FL.  The Warhawks next varsity game will be Monday, March 24, against St. Olaf at Northport HS in Northport, FL.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on March 22, 2008, 11:42:49 PM
Possible that Hemstead will not pitch this year. Nothing set in stone as of yet.
Point could have easily finished their trip 8-1 instead of 5-4. Errors WILL kill you every time. Was very painful to watch, but the weather was great. Point has 11 new players on their roster this year, mostly freshman. This is the first time in a while where you get a chance to see what they can do. Saw some good things as well as some bad. I believe most of the errors were made by veteran players though.  Hard to say how starting rotation will shake out. And Hemstead pitched injured towards the end of last year. Point will be tough again this year. Question is will ANYONE play next week-end because of all the snow?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on March 23, 2008, 09:42:52 PM
UWS ended their spring trip with a 9-0 victory of SUNY-New Paltz on Saturday.

TJ Wink pitched 6 shutout innings, and has an era of 0.00 through 12 innings
Joey Hostrawser made his first appearance on the hill pitching the final two innings. 2 IP 4 K 0 H 0 BB, hitting 91, sitting in the high 80's.
Sean Cummings was 4-5 with 2 triples and a double to lead the way offensively.

UWS team era after 10 games (7-3) is roughly 1.75, they play next Thursday against St. Johns.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on March 23, 2008, 11:13:47 PM
Quote from: Slinger45 on March 23, 2008, 09:42:52 PM
UWS ended their spring trip with a 9-0 victory of SUNY-New Paltz on Saturday.

TJ Wink pitched 6 shutout innings, and has an era of 0.00 through 12 innings
Joey Hostrawser made his first appearance on the hill pitching the final two innings. 2 IP 4 K 0 H 0 BB, hitting 91, sitting in the high 80's.
Sean Cummings was 4-5 with 2 triples and a double to lead the way offensively.

UWS team era after 10 games (7-3) is roughly 1.75, they play next Thursday against St. Johns.

Good to see UWS continuing to play well, hopefully their offense can keep up with their pitching. 1.75 is pretty nice for 10 games played, too bad it wont last once they get into the WIAC and the short wisconsin fields. But their pitching will keep them in a lot of games, better watch out Platteville, Stout, LaCrosse!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 24, 2008, 01:59:40 AM
Quote from: szlongball on March 22, 2008, 11:42:49 PM
Possible that Hemstead will not pitch this year. Nothing set in stone as of yet.

Wow. That would obviously be a huge loss. Please keep us updated, and welcome to the boards.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 24, 2008, 05:02:49 PM
The WARHAWKS split a double hitter with St Olaf today losing the first game on a three hit shutout 5-0.  Adam Dominick took the loss.  In game two the WARHAWKS rallied from behind with four hits and three runs in their last at bat capped off by a Jordan Stine pinch hit single to drive in the winning run.  Greg Donovan was credited with the win in relief.  Jeff Donovan hit a three run home run in the contest.

With the split the WARHAWKS record is now 7-2.  St Olaf finishes the day at 7-3. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 25, 2008, 01:07:21 PM
Anyone happen to know the results of the DH between UWO and St. Thomas this morning?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 25, 2008, 01:51:26 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 25, 2008, 01:07:21 PM
Anyone happen to know the results of the DH between UWO and St. Thomas this morning?
Found it on the MIAC site.....

Split, with UWO winning 7-3 and St. Thomas winning 5-0.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 25, 2008, 03:56:51 PM
Anyone know if Whitewater's Adam Dominick is physically OK? He faced four St. Olaf batters, giving up three hits, in 1/3 of an inning in a 5-0 loss.

It would be a pretty big game for Vodenlich to make a "statement" by pulling one of his best starters that early, so it made me wonder if he's injured in some way.

Looks like Olaf's Todd Mathison worked over the 'Hawks. And WW needed a crooked number in the bottom of the 7th of Game 2 to earn a split, 8-7.

Only 10 of the 20 combined runs were earned. Got to love the early games.

Looks like Olaf and Whitewater threw their bests, although Dott didn't start for WW. The early going suggests yet another year of parity among the best teams. Lots of splits and no separation.

Should be an interesting year, with conference seasons being even more important due to the spring splits.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Warhawk19 on March 27, 2008, 11:38:07 AM
Quote from: OshDude on March 25, 2008, 03:56:51 PM
Anyone know if Whitewater's Adam Dominick is physically OK? He faced four St. Olaf batters, giving up three hits, in 1/3 of an inning in a 5-0 loss.

Dominick twisted his ankle pretty bad on a comebacker to the mound.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 27, 2008, 03:45:55 PM
Quote from: Warhawk19 on March 27, 2008, 11:38:07 AM
Quote from: OshDude on March 25, 2008, 03:56:51 PM
Anyone know if Whitewater's Adam Dominick is physically OK? He faced four St. Olaf batters, giving up three hits, in 1/3 of an inning in a 5-0 loss.

Dominick twisted his ankle pretty bad on a comebacker to the mound.
Thanks ... +1. Welcome aboard.

Bad enough to keep him out for an extended period? Assuming we get some games in, that is.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 27, 2008, 03:50:01 PM
UW-Platteville scored 2 runs in the third and 7 runs in the fourth and beat D1 Northern Iowa 9-4
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on March 27, 2008, 05:34:27 PM
UWS beat St. John's today at the Dome, 3-0, 3-1....now move to 9-3.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on March 27, 2008, 05:57:15 PM
Point is playing in La Crosse on Saturday due to poor field conditions at home. Sunday's games are scheduled for Apr. 2 in Point. Point will be home team in La Crosse.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on March 27, 2008, 07:09:44 PM
Quote from: Slinger45 on March 27, 2008, 05:34:27 PM
UWS beat St. John's today at the Dome, 3-0, 3-1....now move to 9-3.

Coach Morgan has UWS on the move this year. Already equal to last years win total of 9...Pretty good wins for them even though St. Johns is 6-7 but many had them at the top of the MIAC. Plus they held them to only 1 run and not pitching their top 2 pitchers even though Joey Hostrawser is their #3 right now im guessing he could be even higher.

The rest of the WIAC better not underestimate UWS they have 3 solid SP it seems like
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on March 27, 2008, 07:17:30 PM
Quote from: BaseballFan on March 27, 2008, 07:09:44 PM
Quote from: Slinger45 on March 27, 2008, 05:34:27 PM
UWS beat St. John's today at the Dome, 3-0, 3-1....now move to 9-3.

Coach Morgan has UWS on the move this year. Already equal to last years win total of 9...Pretty good wins for them even though St. Johns is 6-7 but many had them at the top of the MIAC. Plus they held them to only 1 run and not pitching their top 2 pitchers even though Joey Hostrawser is their #3 right now im guessing he could be even higher.

The rest of the WIAC better not underestimate UWS they have 3 solid SP it seems like

I dont think anyone on the team would deny that Joey has the best stuff on the team, he was 86-88 the last couple innings and hit 90 on a day where he was stiff by his own accounts. Its just a matter of him staying healthy and stretching out and today was a good step towards that.

When talking about the starting pitchers for UWS dont forget TJ Wink who is 2-0 with a 0.00 era so far....hes made great strides from last year and has even hit 88 on the gun. Not bad for a toothpick lefthander haha.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 28, 2008, 01:08:10 PM
We should have A LOT better idea about how much Superior has improved after this weekend.  Both DH's are on as planned at Tiedemann Field Saturday and Sunday.  UWO players spent some time this week getting snow off the field, and had their first outdoor practice yesterday.

The Titans have beaten the Yellow Jackets at least 28 straight times, so if they could manage to win at least one game in the four game series, I think it would be pretty safe to say Superiors Baseball program is improving.

I guess we'll see where things stand in a couple of days....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 29, 2008, 07:30:59 PM
Oshkosh opens WIAC play with a DH sweep of Superior, winning the opener 3-2, and the nightcap 5-1.  It appears from looking at the boxscore that Superior actually outplayed Oshkosh in the first game, outhitting the Titans 7-4, but they left 11 runners on base.

Platteville also opens with a sweep of Stout, winning the opener 10-0 (7 innings) and 14-13.  The Pioneers scored three runs in the bottom of the 9th inning for the Game #2 win.  Interestingly, Ross Bennett goes 0x7 on the day, but Platteville is still able to get a pair of victories.

La Crosse and Point split their DH, with La Crosse winning the opener 9-6, and the Pointers taking the nightcap 8-3.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on March 29, 2008, 10:24:24 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 29, 2008, 07:30:59 PM
Oshkosh opens WIAC play with a DH sweep of Superior, winning the opener 3-2, and the nightcap 5-1.  It appears from looking at the boxscore that Superior actually outplayed Oshkosh in the first game, outhitting the Titans 7-4, but they left 11 runners on base.

Platteville also opens with a sweep of Stout, winning the opener 10-0 (7 innings) and 14-13.  The Pioneers scored three runs in the bottom of the 9th inning for the Game #2 win.  Interestingly, Ross Bennett goes 0x7 on the day, but Platteville is still able to get a pair of victories.

La Crosse and Point split their DH, with La Crosse winning the opener 9-6, and the Pointers taking the nightcap 8-3.

UWS/UWO game did not surprise me and does look like UWS should of won the first game. We will see how things go tomorrow after UWO pitching top 2 today, UWS still with their #1 looks like so chance to get one tomorrow. I think these 2 games should be an eye opener if people dont think UWS is different this year. Last year would of not even been close. Their hitting still needs to pick it up though

Kind of surprised by Platevilles sweep of Stout

Kind of surprised that  STP only split

Who knows maybe WIAC is more balanced then most people thought i.e. top 3 and the rest of the pack. Lot of weekend and season left though
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 29, 2008, 10:55:53 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 29, 2008, 07:30:59 PM
Oshkosh opens WIAC play with a DH sweep of Superior, winning the opener 3-2, and the nightcap 5-1.  It appears from looking at the boxscore that Superior actually outplayed Oshkosh in the first game, outhitting the Titans 7-4, but they left 11 runners on base.

Platteville also opens with a sweep of Stout, winning the opener 10-0 (7 innings) and 14-13.  The Pioneers scored three runs in the bottom of the 9th inning for the Game #2 win.  Interestingly, Ross Bennett goes 0x7 on the day, but Platteville is still able to get a pair of victories.

La Crosse and Point split their DH, with La Crosse winning the opener 9-6, and the Pointers taking the nightcap 8-3.
Superior absolutely outplayed Oshkosh for the most part. Lack of execution during key moments hurt Superior. Sup should have been off the field with no runs in the first, but the 2B couldn't handle a routine DP throw from the 3B with no outs and a runner on first.

UWO's bats were silent all day. I wish I could say Sup's Game 1 pitcher was great, but Tim Bouvine wasn't. Oshkosh couldn't hit a batting-practice fastball nor rinky-dink breaking stuff. Only Brad Demmin had anything close to a nice day at the plate. So many UWO at-bats given away, in both games.

In Game 1, Oshkosh just found a way to score a few off of a mistake and then held on. UWO's Perlewitz was OK. He was Jeckl and Hyde – lights out one batter, then looked like he didn't know where the plate was next. Rubens struggled with his command, too.

I did like Sup's Game 2 SP, T.J. Wink. Good fastball and secondary pitches. Smooth and sneaky-fast lefty who comes at you with knees, elbows and a jersey. Does that kid eat? Lol. Sup's other Game 2 pitchers had OK fastballs but were not close to overwhelming anyone.

So far I'd say Sup's pitching is improved (from nothing to slightly above average). If I saw its best today, Sup still has a ways to go. After the first inning, UWO SP Ryan Demmin was dominant. He gave up a double and a few singles up the box (the other 2B was on a rather routine flyball that was misjudged). That was it. I would call Demmin dominant today, and his body language told the story. He wasn't going to lose that game, and he challenged (and won) just about every batter.

Ryan only needed those few sac flies today, but the offense needs to step it up. Bigtime. It's about as bad as you can hit while still winning both games.

One thing that struck me was how many dudes Sup now packs into its dugout. I counted about 35, and they had some pep for the first time I can recall. When they got up in Game 1, those guys had a bit of Whitewater in 'em. They can get a little chirpy. That's good to hear coming out of that dugout. And good to see the number of players.

My favorite moment of the day was when I first noticed what was written on Sup's jackets. You guessed it, "Jackets." Pretty sweet, if you ask me.

Oh, and congrats to Tom Lechnir for winning game Nos. 600 and 601.

UWO could use one 7-inning game tomorrow. The sticks could use the confidence boost, even if it comes against Sup, just like the good old days.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on March 30, 2008, 12:17:22 AM
Quote from: OshDude on March 29, 2008, 10:55:53 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 29, 2008, 07:30:59 PM
Oshkosh opens WIAC play with a DH sweep of Superior, winning the opener 3-2, and the nightcap 5-1.  It appears from looking at the boxscore that Superior actually outplayed Oshkosh in the first game, outhitting the Titans 7-4, but they left 11 runners on base.

Platteville also opens with a sweep of Stout, winning the opener 10-0 (7 innings) and 14-13.  The Pioneers scored three runs in the bottom of the 9th inning for the Game #2 win.  Interestingly, Ross Bennett goes 0x7 on the day, but Platteville is still able to get a pair of victories.

La Crosse and Point split their DH, with La Crosse winning the opener 9-6, and the Pointers taking the nightcap 8-3.
Superior absolutely outplayed Oshkosh for the most part. Lack of execution during key moments hurt Superior. Sup should have been off the field with no runs in the first, but the 2B couldn't handle a routine DP throw from the 3B with no outs and a runner on first.

UWO's bats were silent all day. I wish I could say Sup's Game 1 pitcher was great, but Tim Bouvine wasn't. Oshkosh couldn't hit a batting-practice fastball nor rinky-dink breaking stuff. Only Brad Demmin had anything close to a nice day at the plate. So many UWO at-bats given away, in both games.

In Game 1, Oshkosh just found a way to score a few off of a mistake and then held on. UWO's Perlewitz was OK. He was Jeckl and Hyde – lights out one batter, then looked like he didn't know where the plate was next. Rubens struggled with his command, too.

I did like Sup's Game 2 SP, T.J. Wink. Good fastball and secondary pitches. Smooth and sneaky-fast lefty who comes at you with knees, elbows and a jersey. Does that kid eat? Lol. Sup's other Game 2 pitchers had OK fastballs but were not close to overwhelming anyone.

So far I'd say Sup's pitching is improved (from nothing to slightly above average). If I saw its best today, Sup still has a ways to go. After the first inning, UWO SP Ryan Demmin was dominant. He gave up a double and a few singles up the box (the other 2B was on a rather routine flyball that was misjudged). That was it. I would call Demmin dominant today, and his body language told the story. He wasn't going to lose that game, and he challenged (and won) just about every batter.

Ryan only needed those few sac flies today, but the offense needs to step it up. Bigtime. It's about as bad as you can hit while still winning both games.

One thing that struck me was how many dudes Sup now packs into its dugout. I counted about 35, and they had some pep for the first time I can recall. When they got up in Game 1, those guys had a bit of Whitewater in 'em. They can get a little chirpy. That's good to hear coming out of that dugout. And good to see the number of players.

My favorite moment of the day was when I first noticed what was written on Sup's jackets. You guessed it, "Jackets." Pretty sweet, if you ask me.

Oh, and congrats to Tom Lechnir for winning game Nos. 600 and 601.

UWO could use one 7-inning game tomorrow. The sticks could use the confidence boost, even if it comes against Sup, just like the good old days.

Nice little recap. Im sure UWO wasnt happy about having to bring Rubens in for a couple innings but happy to at least get the sweep.

Bouvine might not of looked like he had the best stuff but only gave up 4 hits and only 1 walk in 8 innings. Thats gotta count for something. I think Justin Saufley is their number 1 right now so expect him to go tomorrow. Joey Hostrawser is probably their number 2 but just pitched against St. Johns.  Bouvine and Wink are probably 3 and 4. Its tough to say right now who are their top guys but probably they way i would put them.



Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on March 30, 2008, 12:18:59 AM
i guess ill bite the bullet and take offense osh. I realize everyone is entitled to their own opinions and i dont light up the gun like i use to but you obviously dont understand the effect of movement, location and knowing how to "pitch" can affect hitters. Its easy to say that because i dont throw gas its a bp fb but ill keep the ball down, sink and cut it and get outs. I was expecting better bats from uwo honestly. Aside from demmin none impressed me.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 30, 2008, 03:09:03 AM
Quote from: Slinger45 on March 30, 2008, 12:18:59 AM
i guess ill bite the bullet and take offense osh. I realize everyone is entitled to their own opinions and i dont light up the gun like i use to but you obviously dont understand the effect of movement, location and knowing how to "pitch" can affect hitters. Its easy to say that because i dont throw gas its a bp fb but ill keep the ball down, sink and cut it and get outs. I was expecting better bats from uwo honestly. Aside from demmin none impressed me.
It was nothing personal at all. I do understand the effects of movement. Greg Maddux gets along, and I used to get along, on being smarter than the other guys and messing with grips and pressures while pounding the zone. I actually appreciate your style more than I do radar-gun guys. Maddux is my favorite player and that's the way I got outs, so I get it.

It's clear you know how to pitch. I should have written that, so let it now be written: Tim Bouvine is a very good pitcher. You went through a decent lineup three or four times without creating your own trouble.

It's just that I kept reading about Superior guys throwing hard. It's on me that I lumped you in with the others. I never read about a crafty righty, so I assumed there wasn't one.

I enjoyed watching you miss bats. I just didn't know you existed, if that makes sense. I really thought all of the Sup posters were saying 74 was bringing it. And that isn't a stretch, considering how bad Superior has been the last decade. Throwing 74 for strikes would probably get you the cover of the media guide in prior seasons.

Virtual high-5 or are we enemies?

There was no reason to be impressed by UWO's offense. Besides B. Demmin, Wetenkamp and Hiroskey did their jobs with a few fly balls. That's all the highlights I remember. Oh, and the bunting was OK, too.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on March 30, 2008, 10:08:32 AM
yeah no hard feelings. You just seemed to be saying that the titans shouldve hit the crap out of me haha. And to save a little face i did hit 80 and was mostly in the high 70s so 74 might be a little low, i hit 87 before labrum surgery but those days are over. Either way good games yesterday and hopefully it wont be frigid today. Saufley is throwing one game not sure about the other, see ya at the park.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 30, 2008, 12:30:59 PM
WARHAWKS take two from DII St. Cloud State,  4-2, 11-3 and improve to 9-2 on the season.   Niether school has made a box score available at this time.   Conference play begins next weekend with Oshkosh in town for a pair of doublehitters.  I haven't seen the field so I'm not sure of it's condition however rain/snow is forecast for this week and that isn't going to help matters any.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on March 30, 2008, 07:43:21 PM
UWO and UWS split doubleheader UWO wins first game 7-0 then lost 3-1.

UWO starter pulled after 3 hitters in game two. Jeremy Rubens came in relief to pitch 9 innings of relief. Really surprising to have him pitch 11 1/3 innings over 2 days. Just another sign that their pitching beyond 3 guys is not strong.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 30, 2008, 07:56:35 PM
Quote from: BaseballFan on March 30, 2008, 12:17:22 AM
I think Justin Saufley is their number 1 right now so expect him to go tomorrow. Joey Hostrawser is probably their number 2 but just pitched against St. Johns.  Bouvine and Wink are probably 3 and 4. Its tough to say right now who are their top guys but probably they way i would put them.
So according to your projections, UWO pounds Superior's #1 (Saufley) for seven runs and eleven hits in a little over three innings, but gets nothing off of Superior's #? (Nate Hedley) mustering only three hits in 9 innings.  According to Superior's stats, this was Hedley's first appearance on the mound this season, however he was 6-2 with a 4.61 ERA at Mesabi Range CTC last season.

Who would of thought that would be the case? 

Anyway, Superior's win in Game #2 marked their first victory over Oshkosh since 1973, and the Yellow Jackets are now 3-41 all time aginst the Titans.

Stout also manages to win Game #2 today, 10-7, to avoid the a four game sweep against Platteville.  Ross Bennett breaks out of his "mini-slump" by going 4x8 to lead the Pioneers.

By looking at the weather forecast, things don't look to favorable for La Crosse and Stevens Point getting in their DH on Wednesday.  I have a feeling there are going to be some people wishing they would have just played the games today and got them in.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 30, 2008, 08:00:36 PM
WIAC Standings (Through 3/30)
Oshkosh 3-1
Platteville 3-1
La Crosse 1-1
Stevens Point 1-1
Whitewater 0-0
Stout 1-3
Superior 1-3
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on March 30, 2008, 09:10:08 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 30, 2008, 07:56:35 PM
Quote from: BaseballFan on March 30, 2008, 12:17:22 AM
I think Justin Saufley is their number 1 right now so expect him to go tomorrow. Joey Hostrawser is probably their number 2 but just pitched against St. Johns.  Bouvine and Wink are probably 3 and 4. Its tough to say right now who are their top guys but probably they way i would put them.
So according to your projections, UWO pounds Superior's #1 (Saufley) for seven runs and eleven hits in a little over three innings, but gets nothing off of Superior's #? (Nate Hedley) mustering only three hits in 9 innings.  According to Superior's stats, this was Hedley's first appearance on the mound this season, however he was 6-2 with a 4.61 ERA at Mesabi Range CTC last season.

Who would of thought that would be the case? 


Yea Saufley is probably their #1 but its not set in stone or anything im just taking an educated guess. Hostrawser could their #1 also but Saufley is one of their top pitchers. Hedley hadnt pitched but from past years hasnt been too bad in JUCO.  UWOs hitting besides a few guys hasnt been doing much and their pitching besides top 3 hasnt been impressive.

Was the STP/LAX game prematurely cancelled CUBS or was the weather bad? Surprised to see Plateville take 3 from Stout

I saw that Scholastica had to postpone 6 games so their schedule is getting jumbled up so if STP prematurely cancelled or whatever the case was is  too bad cuz it could hurt teams if their schedules get packed full of games. Forecast looks like it should warm up but depends on the rain
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 30, 2008, 09:59:03 PM
Quote from: BaseballFan on March 30, 2008, 09:10:08 PM
UWOs hitting besides a few guys hasnt been doing much and their pitching besides top 3 hasnt been impressive.
Everyone knew that outside of Reubens, Demmin, and Hendricks that UWO didn't have much pitching.  This is why you saw position players like Kannenberg and Wetenkamp take the mound at the Metrodome.  Very seldom do you see guys at UWO both pitch and hit.  The last one I can think of who consistently did it was Craig Glysch back in the late 90's.  As far as their hitters, I think you will see them come around.  Guys like Jason Fosler, Mike Waupoose, and Pete Berg are too good of hitters to stay down for too long.  UWO is really missing Mickey Fadness more than I thought they would at this time.....

Quote from: BaseballFan on March 30, 2008, 09:10:08 PMWas the STP/LAX game prematurely cancelled CUBS or was the weather bad? Surprised to see Plateville take 3 from Stout
The pair of DH's were originally scheduled to take place AT Stevens Point.  Since Point's field wasn't going to be ready for Saturday's DH, they agreed to move it to La Crosse, and rescheduled Sunday's DH for Wednesday at Point.  My guess is that Point didn't want to give up four home games, and I guess I can't really blame them, especially when their line-up is built for the softball diamond they play on.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on March 30, 2008, 10:31:17 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 30, 2008, 09:59:03 PM
Quote from: BaseballFan on March 30, 2008, 09:10:08 PM
UWOs hitting besides a few guys hasnt been doing much and their pitching besides top 3 hasnt been impressive.
Everyone knew that outside of Reubens, Demmin, and Hendricks that UWO didn't have much pitching.  This is why you saw position players like Kannenberg and Wetenkamp take the mound at the Metrodome.  Very seldom do you see guys at UWO both pitch and hit.  The last one I can think of who consistently did it was Craig Glysch back in the late 90's.  As far as their hitters, I think you will see them come around.  Guys like Jason Fosler, Mike Waupoose, and Pete Berg are too good of hitters to stay down for too long.  UWO is really missing Mickey Fadness more than I thought they would at this time.....

Quote from: BaseballFan on March 30, 2008, 09:10:08 PMWas the STP/LAX game prematurely cancelled CUBS or was the weather bad? Surprised to see Plateville take 3 from Stout
The pair of DH's were originally scheduled to take place AT Stevens Point.  Since Point's field wasn't going to be ready for Saturday's DH, they agreed to move it to La Crosse, and rescheduled Sunday's DH for Wednesday at Point.  My guess is that Point didn't want to give up four home games, and I guess I can't really blame them, especially when their line-up is built for the softball diamond they play on.
If Point plays on a softball diamond, what does that say about LAX field? If games can't be played on Apr. 2nd, they will be played on Apr.30th.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 30, 2008, 10:31:41 PM
Cubs, did you go to the games today? I couldn't. I'd like to hear what people had to say about Superior's pitching.

Slinger, what's your take on Oshkosh? How does UWO stack up against the rest of your opponents? Wouldn't imagine that the Titans wowed you. They didn't look like a Top 25 team on Saturday let alone the No. 7 team.

Looks like the UWO lineup produced from top to bottom in Game 1, then got dominated again in Game 2. I hope the UWO bats warm with the weather.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on March 30, 2008, 10:42:11 PM
Quote from: szlongball on March 30, 2008, 10:31:17 PM
to stay down for too long.  UWO is really missing Mickey Fadness more than I thought they would at this time.....


  If Point plays on a softball diamond, what does that say about LAX field? If games can't be played on Apr. 2nd, they will be played on Apr.30th.

Lets face it the majority of Wisconsin fields are pretty rinky dink
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 30, 2008, 10:50:44 PM
Quote from: szlongball on March 30, 2008, 10:31:17 PM
If Point plays on a softball diamond, what does that say about LAX field?
Unless things have changed in the recent past, it was always tougher to hit a ball out at La Crosse than at Point.  I will say this, if Point/LAX get their DH in on Wednesday, there will be more than the 3 HR's that were hit on Saturday in two games at La Crosse.

For the sake of comparison, there were ZERO HR's hit in four games at Oshkosh this weekend, and TWO at Platteville.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 30, 2008, 10:53:58 PM
Quote from: OshDude on March 30, 2008, 10:31:41 PM
Cubs, did you go to the games today?
Nope....  Wasn't able to make it.  Unfortunately it doens't look too promising to make any games this season, unless I call in sick for one of the two Point DH's.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 30, 2008, 11:08:20 PM
Quote from: BaseballFan on March 30, 2008, 10:42:11 PM
Lets face it the majority of Wisconsin fields are pretty rinky dink
I know you said the majority, but UWO's Tiedemann Field is not what I would call "hitter friendly."  When you add in the recently added "double-decker fences" (I believe they are either 14 feet high) to the distances below, it definitely is a pitchers park.  It makes the numbers that Jorgenson and Lieder put up in 1995 even more impressive.  While it may be "short" right down the lines, it jets out pretty quick by the time you get to the gaps.

LF-330 Feet
LCF-370 Feet
CF-403 Feet
RCF-365 Feet
RF-325 Feet
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on March 31, 2008, 01:01:22 AM
Nate Hedley was a surpirse pick to start game 2 but did a very good job, his era may be listed as 4.6 whatever but from playing with him last year it was actually in the mid 2's...our stats person at Mesabi wasnt the greatest.  He has ability, his shoulder has prevented him from getting work on the mound this year...he certainly sacked up today and did a great job.

From talking to Justin it sounded like he didnt have very good command today which led to his poor outing. Im sure hell rebound next weekend.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on March 31, 2008, 01:08:19 AM
Quote from: OshDude on March 30, 2008, 10:31:41 PM
Cubs, did you go to the games today? I couldn't. I'd like to hear what people had to say about Superior's pitching.

Slinger, what's your take on Oshkosh? How does UWO stack up against the rest of your opponents? Wouldn't imagine that the Titans wowed you. They didn't look like a Top 25 team on Saturday let alone the No. 7 team.

Looks like the UWO lineup produced from top to bottom in Game 1, then got dominated again in Game 2. I hope the UWO bats warm with the weather.

Youre right I wasnt impressed with their bats really, they did do a good job defensively, not giving anything away certainly helped with the close games this weekend.  The best hitting team that weve played against so far this year would probably be Bethany Lutheran, other than that UWO had the best pitching...etc, but we havent faced much top level competition. 

Cant really compare UWO to the rest of the WIAC, because even though im from Soup, these were the first WIAC games Ive ever gone to. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on March 31, 2008, 11:38:12 AM
Nice win for UWS. To go into Oshkosh and get one is a great accomplishment for a program on the rise. Congrats. I am convinced that UWO will be at the top of the mountain when it's all said and done. That is a very talented young lineup that wont stay in a slump long. Their pitching is young, but the top four are as good as any in the league. The WIAC wont have a lot of weekend sweeps as in the past, because the depth in the rotations is not there. Plenty of good young arms yet to get into form and show what they are going to mean down the stretch.
I do have a question though. What is going on with Nix at Point. He was suppose to be dominant arm in the WIAC this year. But his outings have been less than spectacular, is he healthy?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on March 31, 2008, 01:06:48 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 30, 2008, 11:08:20 PM
Quote from: BaseballFan on March 30, 2008, 10:42:11 PM
Lets face it the majority of Wisconsin fields are pretty rinky dink
I know you said the majority, but UWO's Tiedemann Field is not what I would call "hitter friendly."  When you add in the recently added "double-decker fences" (I believe they are either 14 feet high) to the distances below, it definitely is a pitchers park.  It makes the numbers that Jorgenson and Lieder put up in 1995 even more impressive.  While it may be "short" right down the lines, it jets out pretty quick by the time you get to the gaps.

LF-330 Feet
LCF-370 Feet
CF-403 Feet
RCF-365 Feet
RF-325 Feet

When I said most, I had one exception in mind and that was Oshkosh's field
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on March 31, 2008, 09:04:08 PM
Quote from: BRONKO7 on March 31, 2008, 11:38:12 AM
Nice win for UWS. To go into Oshkosh and get one is a great accomplishment for a program on the rise. Congrats. I am convinced that UWO will be at the top of the mountain when it's all said and done. That is a very talented young lineup that wont stay in a slump long. Their pitching is young, but the top four are as good as any in the league. The WIAC wont have a lot of weekend sweeps as in the past, because the depth in the rotations is not there. Plenty of good young arms yet to get into form and show what they are going to mean down the stretch.
I do have a question though. What is going on with Nix at Point. He was suppose to be dominant arm in the WIAC this year. But his outings have been less than spectacular, is he healthy?
To the best of my knowledge, Nix is healthy. Has a history of not being able to go long into games. Nice to be able to throw in the 90's, but you still need to have control. Don't expect him to remain the ace of the staff much longer. Watched him over the summer in Eau Claire, managed to put up decent numbers, but not as consistant as Zielke was.
Side note, rumour is Hemstead will not pitch this year. The type of surgery he had in November will require a lot more healing time than a few months. Sucks, but he should come back next season even better.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 01, 2008, 11:13:11 AM
Article in Stevens Point Journal says that Travis Kempf is the ace for the Pointers. Not sure where Nix will be in the rotation.
Also nice to see Platteville got 2 votes for the recent poll. That makes 4 teams either in the top 25 or receiving votes. I think there will be much more balance this year in the WIAC and no team will run away with the title.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 01, 2008, 10:54:51 PM
Update on the Hemi situation. Should have checked more into the RUMOUR.
My fault for not checking. Just bringing him along slowly. Will pitch at some point soon.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on April 02, 2008, 05:37:58 PM
Quote from: szlongball on April 01, 2008, 10:54:51 PM
Update on the Hemi situation. Should have checked more into the RUMOUR.
My fault for not checking. Just bringing him along slowly. Will pitch at some point soon.
That is good for USP, who ever can bring the most pitching to the conference tourney will go far, even though the ERA's might go through the rough at Wisconsin Rapids. Still excited to see who is going to take control of the 4 spot as the season progresses.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 02, 2008, 09:33:48 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 30, 2008, 10:50:44 PM
Quote from: szlongball on March 30, 2008, 10:31:17 PM
If Point plays on a softball diamond, what does that say about LAX field?
I will say this, if Point/LAX get their DH in on Wednesday, there will be more than the 3 HR's that were hit on Saturday in two games at La Crosse.
Well, Point managed to hit six HR's today against the Eagles....  They had three in each game of a DH sweep, a 13-1 seven inning rout in Game #1 and a 9-7 victory in Game #2. 

For the record, LAX also hit a pair of HR's on the day, both in Game #2.

Looks like the slowpitch softball atmosphere is alive and well at Point...... ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 02, 2008, 09:35:09 PM
WIAC Standings (Through 4/2)
Oshkosh 3-1
Platteville 3-1
Stevens Point 3-1
Whitewater 0-0
La Crosse 1-3
Stout 1-3
Superior 1-3
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 02, 2008, 10:11:58 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 02, 2008, 09:33:48 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 30, 2008, 10:50:44 PM
Quote from: szlongball on March 30, 2008, 10:31:17 PM
If Point plays on a softball diamond, what does that say about LAX field?
I will say this, if Point/LAX get their DH in on Wednesday, there will be more than the 3 HR's that were hit on Saturday in two games at La Crosse.
Well, Point managed to hit six HR's today against the Eagles....  They had three in each game of a DH sweep, a 13-1 seven inning rout in Game #1 and a 9-7 victory in Game #2. 

For the record, LAX also hit a pair of HR's on the day, both in Game #2.

Looks like the slowpitch softball atmosphere is alive and well at Point...... ::)

Including the not-so-covert adult beverage consumption taking place down the right field line, I assume.  Ah, spring.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 03, 2008, 09:09:39 AM
LaCrosse entered the games last in the conference with a team ERA of 7.00.  Looks like it could be getting worse.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 05, 2008, 02:42:50 PM
After Oshkosh takes a 5-1 lead in the top of the 5th to chase Whitewater ace Adam Dominick, WW comes back to hit back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back HR's off Ryan Demmin to take a 6-5 lead in the bottom of the 5th.

Don't know if 5 consecutive HR's is a record, but the wind is blowing out and there are some fireworks in Whitewater. UWO has one solo dinger, WW now has six solo shots.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on April 05, 2008, 03:25:52 PM
In my day, it would have been backtoback, HBP.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on April 05, 2008, 03:32:08 PM
Tough news out of UW-Stout today. Three students die in an off-campus house fire.

Stout Website (http://www.uwstout.edu/deaths)

Certainly tough to deal with. Prayers and toughts are with the UW-Stout community!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 05, 2008, 04:07:44 PM
Whitewater beats Oshkosh, 9-7, in a wild Game 1. WW tacks on two more HRs in the ninth to complete the comeback.

UWO gets a SF from frosh pinch hitter Blake Berger in the 9th to tie and a go-ahead two-out, RBI double from frosh CF Nolan Fadness.

WW comes back with a solo HR (Zalnis) off closer Jeremy Rubens to tie in the 9th. Then Matt Schliewe hit a pinch-hit walkoff 2-run HR to center. Rubens failed to get an out.

Tough loss for UWO. All of WW's runs come from 8 HRs. Teams combine for 31 hits and 23 left on base.

UWO SP Ryan Demmin: 8 IP, 13 H, 13 K, BB, 6 HR, about 170 pitches.
WW RP Mike Jacobson pitches 1/3 IP and gets the win.

WW HR: Stine 2, Zalnis 2, Kuhlman, Donovan, Corcoran, Schliewe.
UWO HR: Kannenberg.

EDIT: WW won Game 2, 8-3. UWO held to two hits. WW hits two more bombs for an even 10 HRs on the day. Billy Johnson and Kevin Zalnis (3 HRs on the day) connected in Game 2. UWO SP Travis Helland didn't get an out in the 2nd inning before being charged with 4 ER, and WW led 5-0 after two.

Only two WW regulars did not go deep in either game. UWO's Nolan Fadness hit an HR in Game 2.
WW SP Aaron Dott: 7 IP, 2 H, 3 ER, 8 BB, 5 K, 3 WP (I think that's called effectively wild).
WW RP Gregg Reik: 2 IP, 0 H, 4 K.

Hey, pollsters. Whitewater is a Top 25 team.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on April 05, 2008, 08:57:40 PM
We'll see about that top 25 after tomorrow.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 05, 2008, 09:13:41 PM
Trailing 5-1 in game one WHITEWATER hit back to back to back to back to back home runs in the bottom of the fifth.  That's five consecutive home runs on what probably wasn't more than a total of a dozen pitches.  It was wild.  I've never seen anything quite like it.   Seven solo home runs, one two runner and a 9-7 win. 

Oops, I see OshDude already mentioned it.  My bad.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 05, 2008, 09:22:17 PM
Quote from: janesvilleflash on April 05, 2008, 08:57:40 PM
We'll see about that top 25 after tomorrow.
I think the 'Hawks are Top 25 material no matter what happens tomorrow. I may be in the minority there, but I hope not.

They have a lot going for them: a recent power program with a national title a few years back, nice wins, silly production against one of MW region's top young pitchers and a good overall record. We'll see. You definitely could be correct with the wait-and-see approach, but I'm sold.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 05, 2008, 09:22:28 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 05, 2008, 02:42:50 PM
Don't know if 5 consecutive HR's is a record, ...

The back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back homers were a UW-W school record for consecutive home runs in an inning. The UW-W school record for most home runs in an inning was six against Carrol College on April 15, 1997. The UW-W school record for home runs in a game was 10 against UW-Stevens Point on April 28, 1995.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on April 05, 2008, 09:26:41 PM
The consecutive home runs were amazing...maybe next time the pitcher gets pulled after, say, three consecutive home runs?

Nice crowd today

And nice t-shirts...too bad there were none in my size (2XL)...I did buy one for a friend
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 05, 2008, 09:45:41 PM
Quote from: BoBo on April 05, 2008, 09:22:28 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 05, 2008, 02:42:50 PM
Don't know if 5 consecutive HR's is a record, ...

The back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back homers were a UW-W school record for consecutive home runs in an inning. The UW-W school record for most home runs in an inning was six against Carrol College on April 15, 1997. The UW-W school record for home runs in a game was 10 against UW-Stevens Point on April 28, 1995.
Looked at the record book. There's no entry in the book for consecutive HRs in D3. The record for HRs in an inning in D3 is six, which you mentioned Whitewater has done before and has been done several times.

The D1 record for consecutive HRs is five, set by Eastern Illinois against Moreland St. in 1998 and by Centenary against Stephen F. Austin in 1992. The D2 record for consecutive HRs is also five, set by Alabama-Huntsville against West Alabama in 1998.

I'm guessing five straight HRs a D3 record, but there's no category for consecutive HRs in the NCAA record book for whatever reason.

I'd put a lot of money in writing that UWO SP Ryan Demmin, who was named the WIAC Pitcher of the Week after two CG wins last week, set an all-divisions record by giving up 5 consecutive HRs.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on April 05, 2008, 10:51:25 PM
Stout and Superior split a DH today

UWS won the first game 4-2.

Bouvine, W (3-2) 7 ip 4 h 2 er 3 k 0 bb
Hostrawser, SV 2 ip 0 h 3 k 0 bb

Hostrawser and Berenguer with HR for UWS in the first game, Billy Tafs had 3 hits.

Tim Schneider had a HR for Stout.

Stout won the second game 5-3.

Schneider had another HR as did Sean Cummings for UWS.

Mitch Loegering, Scott Hoium and Nick Hedley all had multi-hit games in the second game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 06, 2008, 11:11:42 AM
Quote from: OshDude on April 05, 2008, 09:45:41 PM
Quote from: BoBo on April 05, 2008, 09:22:28 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 05, 2008, 02:42:50 PM
Don't know if 5 consecutive HR's is a record, ...

The back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back homers were a UW-W school record for consecutive home runs in an inning. The UW-W school record for most home runs in an inning was six against Carrol College on April 15, 1997. The UW-W school record for home runs in a game was 10 against UW-Stevens Point on April 28, 1995.

I'd put a lot of money in writing that UWO SP Ryan Demmin, who was named the WIAC Pitcher of the Week after two CG wins last week, set an all-divisions record by giving up 5 consecutive HRs.

It was strange because take away about 10 pitches in that inning and one mistake to Jordan Stine in the third inning and Demmin was very difficult to hit.  He's got a nasty curve and yesterday he was throwing it for strikes.  He made a few hitters look silly at the plate.    Several of us were dumbfounded that Lechner left him in the game in the fifth but he threw three more really good innings before being relieved in the ninth.   He's a really good pitcher and his brother saved at least three runs with a couple of incredible plays on line shots at first.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 06, 2008, 11:14:39 AM
Quote from: BoBo on April 05, 2008, 09:22:28 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 05, 2008, 02:42:50 PM
Don't know if 5 consecutive HR's is a record, ...

The back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back homers were a UW-W school record for consecutive home runs in an inning. The UW-W school record for most home runs in an inning was six against Carrol College on April 15, 1997. The UW-W school record for home runs in a game was 10 against UW-Stevens Point on April 28, 1995.



Don't quote me but if I remember correctly Stevens Point had nine home runs in that game and it set the NCAA D3 record for combined home runs by two teams at 19.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 06, 2008, 07:44:55 PM
WIAC Standings (Through 4/6)
Stevens Point 3-1
Oshkosh 5-3
Platteville 5-3
Whitewater 2-2
La Crosse 3-5
Stout 3-5
Superior 3-5

Interesting to note that Superior's Nate Hedley did not take the mound for the Jacket's this weekend after shutting down Oshkosh last weekend.  I would think it would be safe to assume he may throw on Wednesday against La Crosse.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 06, 2008, 07:53:51 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 05, 2008, 09:22:17 PM
Quote from: janesvilleflash on April 05, 2008, 08:57:40 PM
We'll see about that top 25 after tomorrow.
I think the 'Hawks are Top 25 material no matter what happens tomorrow. I may be in the minority there, but I hope not.

They have a lot going for them: a recent power program with a national title a few years back, nice wins, silly production against one of MW region's top young pitchers and a good overall record. We'll see. You definitely could be correct with the wait-and-see approach, but I'm sold.
Well Oshkosh bounces back and sweeps the Warhawks today 8-5 and 10-5.  I have not been able to find any box scores as of yet, but my guess would be that Hendricks and Reubens were the wining pitchers while Jacobson and Johnson were the losing pitchers.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 06, 2008, 08:26:48 PM
I had the pitchers of record correct, although I am a little surprised about Reubens.  After facing three batters and picking up the loss in Game #1 yesterday, Reubens comes back to earn a save and a win today.  He throws 1.2 scoreless innings in relief of Curt Hendricks in Game #1 allowing only one hit.  In Game #2, he goes the distance, scattering 14 hits while giving up 5 runs.  For the season, Reubens has now appeared in over half (8 out of 15) of the Titans games, making only two starts.  It will be interesting to see who starts for the Titans on Wednesday against Stevens Point. 

I could honestly see this year being a repeat of the 2006 season, where the top four or five teams are seprated by only a few games.  I would venture to say that the WIAC champion this season will have at least 6 losses, which has happened only once since the WIAC went to a 24 game conference schedule.  If that occurs, it would likely mean no Pool C bid for anyone.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 06, 2008, 08:51:35 PM
Oshkosh/WW game stories and box scores (http://www.uwwsports.com/News/baseball/2008/4/6/bb462008_Oshkoshagain.asp?path=baseball).

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 06, 2008, 09:56:21 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 06, 2008, 08:26:48 PM
I had the pitchers of record correct, although I am a little surprised about Reubens.  After facing three batters and picking up the loss in Game #1 yesterday, Reubens comes back to earn a save and a win today.  He throws 1.2 scoreless innings in relief of Curt Hendricks in Game #1 allowing only one hit.  In Game #2, he goes the distance, scattering 14 hits while giving up 5 runs.  For the season, Reubens has now appeared in over half (8 out of 15) of the Titans games, making only two starts.  It will be interesting to see who starts for the Titans on Wednesday against Stevens Point. 

I could honestly see this year being a repeat of the 2006 season, where the top four or five teams are seprated by only a few games.  I would venture to say that the WIAC champion this season will have at least 6 losses, which has happened only once since the WIAC went to a 24 game conference schedule.  If that occurs, it would likely mean no Pool C bid for anyone.

Yea they are not afraid to use Reubens! He will be burned out by seasons end at this pace
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 06, 2008, 10:09:35 PM
Quote from: BaseballFan on April 06, 2008, 09:56:21 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 06, 2008, 08:26:48 PM
I had the pitchers of record correct, although I am a little surprised about Reubens.  After facing three batters and picking up the loss in Game #1 yesterday, Reubens comes back to earn a save and a win today.  He throws 1.2 scoreless innings in relief of Curt Hendricks in Game #1 allowing only one hit.  In Game #2, he goes the distance, scattering 14 hits while giving up 5 runs.  For the season, Reubens has now appeared in over half (8 out of 15) of the Titans games, making only two starts.  It will be interesting to see who starts for the Titans on Wednesday against Stevens Point. 

I could honestly see this year being a repeat of the 2006 season, where the top four or five teams are seprated by only a few games.  I would venture to say that the WIAC champion this season will have at least 6 losses, which has happened only once since the WIAC went to a 24 game conference schedule.  If that occurs, it would likely mean no Pool C bid for anyone.
Yea they are not afraid to use Reubens! He will be burned out by seasons end at this pace
They did the same thing with Gerl last season (appeared in 26 of 47 games, however 0 starts, pitching 63.2 innings) and he didn't appear to break down.  Hopefully Reubens has the same type of endurance, or a short staff would become even shorter without an effective Reubens.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on April 06, 2008, 11:58:13 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 06, 2008, 07:44:55 PM
WIAC Standings (Through 4/6)
Stevens Point 3-1
Oshkosh 5-3
Platteville 5-3
Whitewater 2-2
La Crosse 3-5
Stout 3-5
Superior 3-5

Interesting to note that Superior's Nate Hedley did not take the mound for the Jacket's this weekend after shutting down Oshkosh last weekend.  I would think it would be safe to assume he may throw on Wednesday against La Crosse.

Im not sure what you may be looking at but we dont face La Crosse until the later portion of the season, our next games are @ Point next weekend.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 07, 2008, 07:46:46 AM
Quote from: Slinger45 on April 06, 2008, 11:58:13 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 06, 2008, 07:44:55 PM
WIAC Standings (Through 4/6)
Stevens Point 3-1
Oshkosh 5-3
Platteville 5-3
Whitewater 2-2
La Crosse 3-5
Stout 3-5
Superior 3-5
Interesting to note that Superior's Nate Hedley did not take the mound for the Jacket's this weekend after shutting down Oshkosh last weekend.  I would think it would be safe to assume he may throw on Wednesday against La Crosse.

Im not sure what you may be looking at but we dont face La Crosse until the later portion of the season, our next games are @ Point next weekend.
Ooops!!!  I must have been looking at Stout's schedule, and not Superior's..... 

That makes it even more puzzling that a guy who shut down a Top 25 team last weekend doesn't even step on the mound this weekend....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 07, 2008, 11:12:18 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 06, 2008, 10:09:35 PM
Quote from: BaseballFan on April 06, 2008, 09:56:21 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 06, 2008, 08:26:48 PM
I had the pitchers of record correct, although I am a little surprised about Reubens.  After facing three batters and picking up the loss in Game #1 yesterday, Reubens comes back to earn a save and a win today.  He throws 1.2 scoreless innings in relief of Curt Hendricks in Game #1 allowing only one hit.  In Game #2, he goes the distance, scattering 14 hits while giving up 5 runs.  For the season, Reubens has now appeared in over half (8 out of 15) of the Titans games, making only two starts.  It will be interesting to see who starts for the Titans on Wednesday against Stevens Point. 

I could honestly see this year being a repeat of the 2006 season, where the top four or five teams are seprated by only a few games.  I would venture to say that the WIAC champion this season will have at least 6 losses, which has happened only once since the WIAC went to a 24 game conference schedule.  If that occurs, it would likely mean no Pool C bid for anyone.
Yea they are not afraid to use Reubens! He will be burned out by seasons end at this pace
They did the same thing with Gerl last season (appeared in 26 of 47 games, however 0 starts, pitching 63.2 innings) and he didn't appear to break down.  Hopefully Reubens has the same type of endurance, or a short staff would become even shorter without an effective Reubens.

Well with basically 2/3 of the year left Rubens has already thrown 31 2/3 and Demmin 30 1/3 so they are on pace for over 90 innings each after the WIAC tourney which is a lot of innings in such a short time. Gerl was strictly a RP where Rubens is throwing 11 innings every weekend. 

so hopefully for UWO sake they dont burnout because they could be in big trouble come playoff time since their pitching staff is not deep. But they might have to ride those 2 in order to make it to the regional
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on April 07, 2008, 12:47:30 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 06, 2008, 10:09:35 PM
Quote from: BaseballFan on April 06, 2008, 09:56:21 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 06, 2008, 08:26:48 PM
I had the pitchers of record correct, although I am a little surprised about Reubens.  After facing three batters and picking up the loss in Game #1 yesterday, Reubens comes back to earn a save and a win today.  He throws 1.2 scoreless innings in relief of Curt Hendricks in Game #1 allowing only one hit.  In Game #2, he goes the distance, scattering 14 hits while giving up 5 runs.  For the season, Reubens has now appeared in over half (8 out of 15) of the Titans games, making only two starts.  It will be interesting to see who starts for the Titans on Wednesday against Stevens Point. 

I could honestly see this year being a repeat of the 2006 season, where the top four or five teams are seprated by only a few games.  I would venture to say that the WIAC champion this season will have at least 6 losses, which has happened only once since the WIAC went to a 24 game conference schedule.  If that occurs, it would likely mean no Pool C bid for anyone.
Yea they are not afraid to use Reubens! He will be burned out by seasons end at this pace
They did the same thing with Gerl last season (appeared in 26 of 47 games, however 0 starts, pitching 63.2 innings) and he didn't appear to break down.  Hopefully Reubens has the same type of endurance, or a short staff would become even shorter without an effective Reubens.
I think he is the guy, but I fear the load they are putting on him this early. I see them doing to him what happened at St. Olaf last season with Mathison. I hate to see young arms potentially damaged due to a lack of confidence in the rest of the staff. Does anyone know how many pitches he logged on Sunday?
Sunday was a huge day for UWO, if they lose one of those two, winning the conference is a slim chance.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 07, 2008, 12:50:07 PM
Didn't work out well for Gerl at the end of the season against Point. Better to have several pitchers you can rely on the one or two studs.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 07, 2008, 01:17:19 PM
Quote from: szlongball on April 07, 2008, 12:50:07 PM
Didn't work out well for Gerl at the end of the season against Point.
Last time I checked, Gerl was 1-0 with a save against Point last season.....  Although he gave up some runs, Oshkosh won both games he appeared in.

If you want to go a step further, Gerl was 1-0 with a save in the Midwest Regional at the end of the season as well.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on April 07, 2008, 01:23:50 PM
Quote from: szlongball on April 07, 2008, 12:50:07 PM
Didn't work out well for Gerl at the end of the season against Point. Better to have several pitchers you can rely on the one or two studs.
Gerl was little different, he was not used as a starter. He appeared in plenty of games, but for an inning or two at a time. There starting staff last year was much deeper. He was not asked to relieve, relieve, start. Coach Lechnir knows what he's doing but I fear late season fatigue which is where the injury part comes in. He is only a soph I think.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 07, 2008, 01:40:36 PM
Thought Point got to him in the conference tournament or the regional Championship game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 07, 2008, 02:00:12 PM
I guess it all depends on a teams overall goal. Some are to make it the regional and some are to win the regional. Right now it seems like UWOs goal is to make it to the regional. Its tough to win 4 games riding mainly 2 pitchers. Need to have a deep pitching staff for 4 games, more if you lose.

Its different to pitch your horse of your staff on short days rest in the playoffs and its another to be doing it in the regular season. It will be interesting to see how things pan out.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: xyz123 on April 07, 2008, 02:44:51 PM
I highly doubt that UWO would ever be satisfied with, or set a goal to just make it to a regional.  They want to make it, and they want to win it.  Their pitching, like alot of other teams, will have to develop as the season moves along.  And you are correct, it will be interesting to see what happens.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2008, 03:24:33 PM
The four game weekend series will be changing after this season concludes.  It's my understanding that the league will go to three game weekend series with one game on Friday and a doublehitter on Saturday leaving Sunday open for any weather related problems.  I guess the teams will still play each other four times but I'm unclear on how or when the fourth game would be played.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 07, 2008, 03:34:06 PM
Quote from: szlongball on April 07, 2008, 01:40:36 PM
Thought Point got to him in the conference tournament or the regional Championship game.
Gerl did not pitch in either the WIAC tournament game that Point won 9-2 or the Regional Championship game that Point won 6-0.  Point beat up on Roos and Mumper in the WIAC Tournament and Rubens and Bolton in the Regional.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 07, 2008, 04:04:52 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2008, 03:24:33 PM
The four game weekend series will be changing after this season concludes.  It's my understanding that the league will go to three game weekend series with one game on Friday and a doublehitter on Saturday leaving Sunday open for any weather related problems.  I guess the teams will still play each other four times but I'm unclear on how or when the fourth game would be played.   

That seems odd-meaning they are playing 4 times but only 1 on friday and 2 on saturday so they suppose to travel up and play another time. If they do make the switch either play 2 on friday/2 saturday for 4 games or just play 1 on friday/2 saturday for 3 games i think it will be nice to have that sunday open for weather
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 07, 2008, 04:06:42 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 07, 2008, 03:34:06 PM
Quote from: szlongball on April 07, 2008, 01:40:36 PM
Thought Point got to him in the conference tournament or the regional Championship game.
Gerl did not pitch in either the WIAC tournament game that Point won 9-2 or the Regional Championship game that Point won 6-0.  Point beat up on Roos and Mumper in the WIAC Tournament and Rubens and Bolton in the Regional.

I stand corrected. Thanks.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 07, 2008, 04:23:03 PM
Quote from: BaseballFan on April 07, 2008, 04:04:52 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2008, 03:24:33 PM
The four game weekend series will be changing after this season concludes.  It's my understanding that the league will go to three game weekend series with one game on Friday and a doublehitter on Saturday leaving Sunday open for any weather related problems.  I guess the teams will still play each other four times but I'm unclear on how or when the fourth game would be played.   

That seems odd-meaning they are playing 4 times but only 1 on friday and 2 on saturday so they suppose to travel up and play another time. If they do make the switch either play 2 on friday/2 saturday for 4 games or just play 1 on friday/2 saturday for 3 games i think it will be nice to have that sunday open for weather

I have a feeling they are going to scrap the fourth game altogether and just play everyone three times.  There's just no way you can justify some of the longer trips (WW to SUP?  PLT to SUP? Stout to OSH?) on a weeknight, to only play one game.

That means teams will have to pick up a few more non-conf games.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2008, 05:25:32 PM
I agree the scheduling of the fourth game makes no sense.  With it already being somewhat of a scramble to find enough nonconference games adding six to the total isn't going to make anything easier.

From what I understand it's the pitching depth issue that is prompting the change. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 07, 2008, 05:37:28 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on April 07, 2008, 04:23:03 PM
Quote from: BaseballFan on April 07, 2008, 04:04:52 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2008, 03:24:33 PM
The four game weekend series will be changing after this season concludes.  It's my understanding that the league will go to three game weekend series with one game on Friday and a doublehitter on Saturday leaving Sunday open for any weather related problems.  I guess the teams will still play each other four times but I'm unclear on how or when the fourth game would be played.   

That seems odd-meaning they are playing 4 times but only 1 on friday and 2 on saturday so they suppose to travel up and play another time. If they do make the switch either play 2 on friday/2 saturday for 4 games or just play 1 on friday/2 saturday for 3 games i think it will be nice to have that sunday open for weather

I have a feeling they are going to scrap the fourth game altogether and just play everyone three times.  There's just no way you can justify some of the longer trips (WW to SUP?  PLT to SUP? Stout to OSH?) on a weeknight, to only play one game.

That means teams will have to pick up a few more non-conf games.
I think the WIAC should keep the four-game weekends for the distant teams, but play shorter games. I don't know if there's ever been talk in the WIAC of playing 7-inning games or a 9/7 split, but many of the nation's conferences play shorter games. In the end, that doubly taxes WIAC teams – not many conferences regularly play four-game weekends, and the ones that do rarely (never?) play four 9-inning contests.

In a way the WIAC schedule prepares its teams for the potentially arduous postseason pitching schedules. But by the time some WIAC teams get to regionals (and often before regionals), WIAC pitching staffs have carried a burden not many other teams in the nation have. I don't have definitive proof of that, but when I look around the nation I don't see many, if any, other teams playing four 9-inning games in two days in the regular season.

Pitching depth is always key for all teams, but there are many other factors (how to use the staff ace, etc.) in the WIAC and that makes it even harder than the leagues that play three-game weekends, sometimes with 7-inning games (I think. Again, this is a knee-jerk response and not based on all empirical data). Going to 7-inning games or using some sort of 9/7 split would go a long way to easing the burden on WIAC pitchers, especially now that Superior is no longer a "bye" where you could use just about anyone.

Is it for "purist" reasons that the WIAC remains a holdout by playing all 9-inning games – most of the time four games in two days?

A final thought: The WIAC teams that have ultimately succeeded in the tournament and won regionals (Point, Whitewater, Oshkosh) have mostly featured ridiculous pitching talent to aid very good offenses (Zimmerman, Reinhard, Tomas..., Timm, Taschner, Glysch, Kimball, Grater, Washburn and other draftees). Without a WIAC team having, by far, the best pitching talent (either individual or team depth), I think the conference will come up short, thanks to its regular-season structure.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 07, 2008, 09:33:57 PM
I know one coach out there who would never vote for changing to seven inning games.... 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 07, 2008, 09:43:22 PM
Oshdude I like what you had to say and had some of the same thoughts.

The South and West can afford to play 9 inning games because their games are spaced out over a much longer time and they dont play 4 nines in two days. Its hard on the WIAC to play 4 9 inning games in a weekend. i think they should make the switch to 3 9s or 4 7s
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 07, 2008, 10:04:26 PM
Quote from: BaseballFan on April 07, 2008, 09:43:22 PM
Its hard on the WIAC to play 4 9 inning games in a weekend. i think they should make the switch to 3 9s or 4 7s
Looking at those options, I'd take 3 nine inning games in a heartbeat.....

Seven inning games are for softball, although with the dimensions of some of the WIAC fields, I guess it would fit..... ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 07, 2008, 10:17:40 PM
Seven inning games stink for college baseball.  I understand the reasons to do it, but it still stinks.

I'd be fine with three nines and I guess two 7/9 doubleheaders would be OK.  If they went to four 7-inning games that would be REALLY disappointing.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 07, 2008, 10:26:02 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 07, 2008, 09:33:57 PM
I know one coach out there who would never vote for changing to seven inning games.... 
Hmm, wonder who that is? LOL. Good point. +1
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 07, 2008, 10:38:13 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 07, 2008, 10:26:02 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 07, 2008, 09:33:57 PM
I know one coach out there who would never vote for changing to seven inning games.... 
Hmm, wonder who that is? LOL. Good point. +1
I know while I played there were teams we wouldn't play for NC because they refused to play nine inning games.....  It was instilled in us from day one that all the conditioning we did would pay off in the 8th and 9th innings, and in all honesty, I can't even begin to remember the number of games we won in the late innings after being down early.... 

I'm sure that philosophy hasn't changed....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Warhawk19 on April 07, 2008, 10:45:58 PM
In case anyone was curious, here is a terrible quality video showing the back to back to back to back to back home runs by the warhawks last saturday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZp2jKTpPN4
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 07, 2008, 11:13:19 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 07, 2008, 10:38:13 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 07, 2008, 10:26:02 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 07, 2008, 09:33:57 PM
I know one coach out there who would never vote for changing to seven inning games.... 
Hmm, wonder who that is? LOL. Good point. +1
I know while I played there were teams we wouldn't play for NC because they refused to play nine inning games.....  It was instilled in us from day one that all the conditioning we did would pay off in the 8th and 9th innings, and in all honesty, I can't even begin to remember the number of games we won in the late innings after being down early.... 

I'm sure that philosophy hasn't changed....

I hope you are talking about pitchers conditioning because positional should never be that out of shaped that they get tired. In my opinion I dont think conditioning is that important in baseball (only minimally), strength is more important!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 07, 2008, 11:19:35 PM
Quote from: BaseballFan on April 07, 2008, 11:13:19 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 07, 2008, 10:38:13 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 07, 2008, 10:26:02 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 07, 2008, 09:33:57 PM
I know one coach out there who would never vote for changing to seven inning games.... 
Hmm, wonder who that is? LOL. Good point. +1
I know while I played there were teams we wouldn't play for NC because they refused to play nine inning games.....  It was instilled in us from day one that all the conditioning we did would pay off in the 8th and 9th innings, and in all honesty, I can't even begin to remember the number of games we won in the late innings after being down early.... 

I'm sure that philosophy hasn't changed....
I hope you are talking about pitchers conditioning because positional should never be that out of shaped that they get tired. In my opinion I dont think conditioning is that important in baseball (only minimally), strength is more important!
Pitchers condtioned more, but the position players did their fair share as well....  The conditioning the position players did, not only helped aerobically, but it also got our legs stronger combined with the time spent in the weight room.  There were many of mornings spent in the pool swimming in addition to the running.

As far as conditioning not being important in baseball, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, however the year I was in the best shape, was my best year hitting the ball.  My legs were stronger, which allowed me to get to the inside pitches quicker.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 08, 2008, 09:23:25 AM
Quote from: OshDude on April 05, 2008, 09:22:17 PM
Quote from: janesvilleflash on April 05, 2008, 08:57:40 PM
We'll see about that top 25 after tomorrow.
I think the 'Hawks are Top 25 material no matter what happens tomorrow. I may be in the minority there, but I hope not.

They have a lot going for them: a recent power program with a national title a few years back, nice wins, silly production against one of MW region's top young pitchers and a good overall record. We'll see. You definitely could be correct with the wait-and-see approach, but I'm sold.
Well janesvilleflash was correct, as Whitewater is once again on the outside looking in this weeks Top 25 poll, 17 points behind Depauw at #27.

Oshkosh drops five spots for the second straight week, to #17, while Point moves up four spots to #20.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 08, 2008, 05:28:01 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 07, 2008, 11:19:35 PM
Quote from: BaseballFan on April 07, 2008, 11:13:19 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 07, 2008, 10:38:13 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 07, 2008, 10:26:02 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 07, 2008, 09:33:57 PM
I know one coach out there who would never vote for changing to seven inning games.... 
Hmm, wonder who that is? LOL. Good point. +1
I know while I played there were teams we wouldn't play for NC because they refused to play nine inning games.....  It was instilled in us from day one that all the conditioning we did would pay off in the 8th and 9th innings, and in all honesty, I can't even begin to remember the number of games we won in the late innings after being down early.... 

I'm sure that philosophy hasn't changed....
I hope you are talking about pitchers conditioning because positional should never be that out of shaped that they get tired. In my opinion I dont think conditioning is that important in baseball (only minimally), strength is more important!
Pitchers condtioned more, but the position players did their fair share as well....  The conditioning the position players did, not only helped aerobically, but it also got our legs stronger combined with the time spent in the weight room.  There were many of mornings spent in the pool swimming in addition to the running.

As far as conditioning not being important in baseball, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, however the year I was in the best shape, was my best year hitting the ball.  My legs were stronger, which allowed me to get to the inside pitches quicker.

Well there is a difference between conditioning for endurance and for strength. I think there should be some conditioning in baseball but only to supplement weight lifting. Baseball is generally a quick burst strength sport. So there really is no reason for positionals to work on running 2 miles they will never need it. By the time they use a quick burst enough time has passed before they will use it again. Lifting and short sprints are the best

On the other side pitchers need that endurance in their legs so running long distances coupled with lifting is a good idea. Need that strength plus the endurance

To get to inside pitches faster you use your core (abs) not your legs or to get to the inside pitch you cheat and open up early.

Overall I agree being in good shape helps, but always exceptions Prince Fielder, Miguel Cabrera, C.C. Sabathia
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 09, 2008, 04:10:56 PM
One way to avoid playing six 9-inning games in five days is to crush a team in seven innings, like La Crosse is doing at Stout today.

For those bored at work or school today, Stout has live stats http://www.uwstout.edu/athletics/baseball/live/xlive.htm (http://www.uwstout.edu/athletics/baseball/live/xlive.htm). Don't know if Stout is offering Game 2.

It's LAX 16, Stout 2, in the 7th of Game 1 as I type this. Stout has used seven pitchers in seven innings ... not the best way to get through six games in five days. Someone should have taken one for the team, as they say, after it was 12-1 in the 3rd.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 09, 2008, 06:06:05 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 09, 2008, 04:10:56 PM
One way to avoid playing six 9-inning games in five days is to crush a team in seven innings, like La Crosse is doing at Stout today.

For those bored at work or school today, Stout has live stats http://www.uwstout.edu/athletics/baseball/live/xlive.htm (http://www.uwstout.edu/athletics/baseball/live/xlive.htm). Don't know if Stout is offering Game 2.

It's LAX 16, Stout 2, in the 7th of Game 1 as I type this. Stout has used seven pitchers in seven innings ... not the best way to get through six games in five days. Someone should have taken one for the team, as they say, after it was 12-1 in the 3rd.



Ouch!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 09, 2008, 06:48:18 PM
OshDude thanks for the link. It is 8-8 in the 7th inning. To bad more teams don't have a setup like this.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 09, 2008, 09:02:30 PM
The WARHAWKS swept Platteville today 5-0 and 11-4.   Adam Dominick pitched 8 shutout innings, striking out 10, to get the win and Gregg Reik finished by striking out two of the three batters he faced in the ninth.  Ben Prather got things started with a 2 run double in the first inning and Kevin Zalnis added a home run. 

WW scored 9 of their first 10 runs with two outs in game two.  Aaron Dott struggled with his control walking six but surrendered only 3 hits and struck out 8 in five innings to get the win.  Kale Olson, Gregg Riek and Jason Hooper combined to throw four innings of relef and finish the game.  Prather hit well again going 3x4 with an RBI and 2 RS.  Billy Johnson went 2x3 with a pair of RBI and RS. 

WW improves to 4-2, 13-4. 

The weather forecast sounds pretty bad for playing a pair of doublehitters this weekend vs Stout.   Rain, rain and more rain.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 10, 2008, 09:22:46 AM
WIAC Standings (Through 4/9)
Stevens Point 3-1
Whitewater 4-2
Oshkosh 5-3
La Crosse 5-5
Platteville 5-5
Superior 3-5
Stout 3-7

Stevens Point/Oshkosh DH postponed to April 10th.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 10, 2008, 09:31:26 AM
Quote from: BaseballFan on April 08, 2008, 05:28:01 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 07, 2008, 11:19:35 PM
Quote from: BaseballFan on April 07, 2008, 11:13:19 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 07, 2008, 10:38:13 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 07, 2008, 10:26:02 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 07, 2008, 09:33:57 PM
I know one coach out there who would never vote for changing to seven inning games.... 
Hmm, wonder who that is? LOL. Good point. +1
I know while I played there were teams we wouldn't play for NC because they refused to play nine inning games.....  It was instilled in us from day one that all the conditioning we did would pay off in the 8th and 9th innings, and in all honesty, I can't even begin to remember the number of games we won in the late innings after being down early.... 

I'm sure that philosophy hasn't changed....
I hope you are talking about pitchers conditioning because positional should never be that out of shaped that they get tired. In my opinion I dont think conditioning is that important in baseball (only minimally), strength is more important!
Pitchers condtioned more, but the position players did their fair share as well....  The conditioning the position players did, not only helped aerobically, but it also got our legs stronger combined with the time spent in the weight room.  There were many of mornings spent in the pool swimming in addition to the running.

As far as conditioning not being important in baseball, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, however the year I was in the best shape, was my best year hitting the ball.  My legs were stronger, which allowed me to get to the inside pitches quicker.
Well there is a difference between conditioning for endurance and for strength. I think there should be some conditioning in baseball but only to supplement weight lifting. Baseball is generally a quick burst strength sport. So there really is no reason for positionals to work on running 2 miles they will never need it. By the time they use a quick burst enough time has passed before they will use it again. Lifting and short sprints are the best

On the other side pitchers need that endurance in their legs so running long distances coupled with lifting is a good idea. Need that strength plus the endurance

To get to inside pitches faster you use your core (abs) not your legs or to get to the inside pitch you cheat and open up early.

Overall I agree being in good shape helps, but always exceptions Prince Fielder, Miguel Cabrera, C.C. Sabathia
You are right about the cores being important, which we also did on a regular basis.  However if you really believe you don't need strong legs to hit consistently, take a look at David Ortiz right now.  He is coming off of off-season surgery, and his back leg just isn't strong enough yet to carry his load/weight transfer before the swing.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 10, 2008, 04:54:50 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 10, 2008, 09:31:26 AM
You are right about the cores being important, which we also did on a regular basis.  However if you really believe you don't need strong legs to hit consistently, take a look at David Ortiz right now.  He is coming off of off-season surgery, and his back leg just isn't strong enough yet to carry his load/weight transfer before the swing.

No I never said that you dont need legs. Your legs dont need be conditioned for endurance as a hitter unless you plan on taking 50+ full cuts in a row. Strength and power is what you need.


So teams in Wisconsin going to get games in this weekend or is suppose to rain?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 10, 2008, 05:00:38 PM
Could be LOTS of snow up north, LOTS of rain everywhere else. Could maybe play Sunday and Monday next week. Looks like Point/Oshkosh may play next Wednesday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: for2n8john on April 11, 2008, 04:10:18 PM
UW-W got the MetroDome for tonight and will play a double-header vs. Stout at 1am.

The AD is going to call the Coach Saturday If we get the weather they are predicting and the field isn't playable for Sunday.  If not playable, they will play another double header again after the Twins game on Saturday around 8pm. 


Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 11, 2008, 04:19:13 PM
The website is saying the Sunday games have been moved to Monday and will be played in WW.  I'm not sure if that's an update or what. 

http://www.uwwsports.com/News/baseball/2008/4/11/baseball_04112008_schedulechange.asp?path=baseball

I guess we'll just have to wait and see. 

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 11, 2008, 05:02:28 PM
Quote from: for2n8john on April 11, 2008, 04:10:18 PM
UW-W got the MetroDome for tonight and will play a double-header vs. Stout at 1am.

The AD is going to call the Coach Saturday If we get the weather they are predicting and the field isn't playable for Sunday.  If not playable, they will play another double header again after the Twins game on Saturday around 8pm. 




Good Luck to WW tonight. Hope they make it in one piece to the dome. Weather looks very bad as they try to get there. Smart move to secure the dome for their games, sucks though at playing doubleheader at 1:00 a.m.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: for2n8john on April 11, 2008, 08:25:46 PM
I heard from a player.  Can't see going all the way up there and not trying to get all the games in.  Hoping for good weather on Monday is really an iffy proposition and the kids have to miss classes on Monday.
This keeps the pitching on-schedule.

As far as playing at 1am.  It "Stinks" for the parents.  That's 3 hours past my bedtime.  But the kids are probably up at that time anyway.    But if they do try to turnaround and play later that night at 8:00pm Saturday that game will be brutal.

Twins are away.  UM baseball?  It shows they were at Northwestern, but maybe they chose to do the same thing and re-schedule to the dome.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: formman on April 12, 2008, 03:50:57 PM
UW-W and UW-Stout did indeed play at the Metrodome Saturday.

Game 1: UW-W: 9  UW-Stout: 7  Winner: G. Donovan (not totally sure on that though).
Game 2: UW-W: 7  UW-Stout: 0  Winner: Munn

First game started at 1:04, second game ended at 6:30
Attendance: Few, but sleepy.

The Twins are in KC, The Gophers never made it to Chicago flight was cancelled...guess which airline the may have been flying.
From what I heard the other games were moved to Monday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 12, 2008, 06:54:33 PM
Mike Jacobson was the winner in relief in game one.  Greg Riek, Kale Olson, Jason Hooper and Jacobson relieved starter Randy Johnson who was gotten to very early.  With the score tied 7-7 in the bottom of the eighth the WARHAWKS scored when a Jeff Donovan RBI double plated Ben Kuhlmann and after being sacrificed to third Donovan scored on a wild pitch.  Jacobson had pitched one out in the top of eighth and finished the ninth for the win.   Donovan finished 2x4 with 2 RS and 3 RBI.  Sam Petrasko and Ben Kuhlmann both had a pair of hits and Kevin Zalnis hit a three run home run.

Joe Munn got the win in game two throwing 6.2 scoreless innings surrendering only 4 hits and striking out 6.  Greg Donovan finished the final 2.1 innings also shuting out Stout on no hits and 3 Ks.  A Jeff Donovan home run in the first inning put the WARHAWKS on top early.  Billy Johnson went 2x4 with 3 RBI and Mike Kenseth also had a pair of hits.  Tom Corcoran added a home run.  The final was 6-0. 

WARHAWKS go 5-1 in the MetroDome this year.  We've played pretty well in there the past few years.

The wins improve the WARHAWKS record to 6-2 in WIAC play and 15-4 overall.  Hopefully the weather cooperates and the field is playable Monday.   I'm so sick of this crap that I've stopped watching the weather reports.  I'll just be surprised when the sun shines.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 13, 2008, 08:02:13 PM
Oshkosh sweeps La Crosse today, 9-6 and 15-2 (7 innings.) 

In the opener, Oshkosh scores in each of the first five innings to get an early lead.  Ryan Demin gives up 10 hits and 4 earned runs over 7 2/3 innings to pick up the win and improve to 3-0 on the season.  Jeremy Rubens picks up his third save going the final 1 1/3 giving up a pair of hits, including a Darren O'Donnell solo HR to lead off the 9th.  Freshman CF Nolan Fadness leads the Titans at the plate going 4x5, with a double, scoring two runs, and also driving in a pair.  Brad Demmin, Kyle Kannenberg, and Jason Fosler also chipped in a pair of hits apiece.

In the nightcap, Junior Greg Perlewitz makes just his third start of the season, and picks up a complete game victory to improve to 2-0 on the season.  He gives up just 5 hits and 2 runs in 7 innings pitched.  Oshkosh scores eight runs on 6 hits in the 5th inning, capped off by Mike Waupoose 3-run HR.  The Titans tack on six more in the 7th inning, capped off once again by a 3-run HR, this time by pinch hitter Shayne Jansen.  Kannenberg and Fosler repeat their Game #1 performance picking up a pair of hits each.  They are joined by Waupoose, Derek Hiroskey, and Pete Berg who also pick up a pair of hits each.

It will be interesting to see who Oshkosh sends out to the hill tomorrow, with the Titans having a DH against Point on Wednesday.  If I was a betting man, I would think it would be Hendricks in Game #1 followed by Rubens in Game #2.  Since La Crosse doesn't have another WIAC game until April 23rd, I would think Gibson and Benitz would be getting starts tomorrow for the Eagles.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 13, 2008, 08:05:35 PM
WIAC Standings (Through 4/13)
Stevens Point 5-1
Whitewater 6-2
Oshkosh 7-3
Platteville 5-5
La Crosse 5-7
Superior 3-7
Stout 3-9
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 13, 2008, 08:46:16 PM
Point sweeps Superior today, 11-1 (7) and 10-7, without throwing Kempf or Nix.  The question is, are they starting tomorrow, or is Coach Bloom saving them for Wednesday's DH against Oshkosh?

Senior Mike Thrun picked up the win in Game #1 allowing just three hits in six innings pitched, while striking out six and not walking a batter.  The Pointer offense was led by C Doug Coe and CF Brandon Scheidler who each went 3x4 with a HR.  Superior's Tim Bouvine picked up the loss going 5.0+ innings, giving up 8 runs (7 earned) on 11 hits.

In the nightcap, Point used five different pitchers (none of which threw more than 2 2/3 innings) to beat the Yellow Jackets.  Scheidler picked up right where he left off in Game #1, going 2x5 with another HR.  Superior pitcher Justin Saufley was roughed up for the second time in three starts, giving up 7 runs (4 earned) and 7 hits in just three innings pitched.

It will be interesting to see what develops tomorrow.  I would assume TJ Wink and Joey Hostrawser will each start for Superior tomorrow.  However, who starts for Point will be the interesting part.....  Will Kempf and Nix take the mound?  Does Brandon Hemstead return tomorrow?  I would think two of those three guys (if Hemstead is ready to return) would be saved for Oshkosh on Wednesday.  If that indeed is the case, that would mean Superior would more than likely see some of the same guys they saw in Game #2 today on Monday.

Any thoughts???
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 14, 2008, 04:09:24 PM
Point wins game 1 today by a score of 12-2. Stewart Larsen hits 3 homeruns for a total of 6 RBIs. Kempf started and only pitched 5 innings, giving up 2 runs in the 5th. Nix scheduled to start game 2. Who goes on Wednesday-not a clue.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 14, 2008, 04:35:04 PM
Oshkosh beats La Crosse in Game #1, 7-6 in 11 innings.  Hendricks starts and goes six innings, while Rubens goes five innings in relief.  I am REALLY interested to see who gets the start for Oshkosh in Game #2.  Gibson is scheduled to start for the Indi.... I mean Eagles.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 14, 2008, 09:17:04 PM
WIAC Standings (Through 4/14)
Stevens Point 7-1
Whitewater 8-2
Oshkosh 9-3
Platteville 5-5
La Crosse 5-9
Superior 3-9
Stout 3-11
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 14, 2008, 09:40:33 PM
Well the top three teams get further seperation from the rest of the WIAC, as Whitewater, Point, and Oshkosh all get sweeps today.  Oshkosh had the toughest time, as it took them 11 innings in both games to get the victory.

Interestingly, both Point and Oshkosh threw their top guys, with both Kempf and Nix starting and throwing 5 and 5 2/3 respectively to pick up victories for the Pointers.  On the other side, Oshkosh's main guy Jeremy Rubens saw 9 1/3 innings on the mound, as he came in relief to pick up a pair of victories.  Rubens went 5 1/3 innings in the opener in relief of Curt Hendricks and allowed 0 runs and only three hits.   In the nightcap, Rubens relieved Evan Matson and had a similar pitching line, except for giving up a pair of unearned runs in the 9th inning, thanks to a pair of errors by the Titan infield.  Rubens finishes the weekend appearing in three of the four games, pitching 10 2/3 innings, while giving up only one earned run, the HR to O'Donnell.  For his efforts, he picks up two wins and a save.

It appears the Titans bats woke up over the weekend as well, as they pounded out 55 hits in four games, with at least 12 hits in each game.  Freshman Nolan Fadness continues to impress, as he goes 12 x 22 out of the leadoff spot in the four game set.  Another thing worth mentioning is the starts that Oshkosh picked up from Perelwitz yesterday and Matson today.  They were able to give a thin staff 14 good innings.  I think both of these guys earned some more innings as the season progresses.

So what are everyone's predictions for the Point/Oshkosh DH on Wednesday as far as pitching match-ups go?  I have a funny feeling R. Demmin will start Game #1, with Rubens in relief if needed.  If Rubens doesn't throw Game #1, it would not surprise me to see him get the nod in Game #2.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 14, 2008, 10:03:47 PM
One thing I forgot to mention earlier, was that Whitewater was down 14-3 in the 4th inning in Game #2 against Stout today, before scoring 14 runs in the bottom of the 4th and taking a 17-14 lead.  Stout scored 3 times in the 5th to tie it back up at 17, however Whitewater scored 2 in the bottom of the 5th and 1 in the 6th for the 20-17 victory.  Stout actually out homered the high powered Warhawks 5-3.

This game is a prime example of why all WIAC DH's should start at 12:00, instead of 1:00.  They would have had another hour to get in a few more innings and possibly play all nine innings, instead of just six.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 14, 2008, 10:06:08 PM
The WARHAWKS swept Stout today 9-7 and 20-17.  The second game was called after six innings were completed because of darkness.  No one was certain if it would count as a win when I left but the general consensus was that it would.  It was a bizarre game anyway so the fact that it ended with no one certain of what it meant was fitting.

Adam Dominick (5-1) picked up his fifth win by throwing eight solid innings surrendering 8 hits and 2 runs (1 earned) with 5 ks in game one.  Kevin Harves relieved him and struggled surrendering 4 runs after facing only 5 batters before freshman lefty Bryant Gansler came and though Stout scored off of him was able to retire the side and preserve the victory 9-7.  Kevin Zalnis led the 12 hit WARHAWK attack going 3x5 with a pair of RBI and Mike Kenseth also had a pair of RBI.  Ben Kuhlman and Thomas Corcoran each had a pair of hits.  WW was 6 for 6 stealing bases.

Game two was one of the stranger things I've seen in a while.  Stout's offense picked up where it left off in game one scoring 2 in the second and 7 (all after two out)  in the third before the WARHAWKS finally got on the scoreboard with 3 of their own in the bottom of the third.  Stout shook it off though and put 5 more on the board in their fourth at bat again scoring all 5 after two were out.  With Stout leading 14-3 I was about ready to call it a day.  After all I'm not a parent and obligated to stay when a game looks that ugly.  Fortunately I decided to give the WARHAWKS one more chance.  And did they take it and run.  Sending 17 batters to the plate they erupted for 14 runs on 7 hits including a three run home run by Jeff Donovan and a 2 run shot by Zalnis to take their first lead of the game 17-14.   But Stout wasn't finished as they responded with 3 runs in the top of the fifth to tie the game 17-17.   However the WARHAWKS got the lead back on an RBI single by Bret Adamson and padded it with an unearned run to go back up 19-17.   After getting the last two outs in the previous inning Mike Jacobson was able put Stout down 1,2,3 in their sixth inning and the WARHAWKS added the final run on an RBI single by Corcoran.   Four errors hurt WW as only 7 of Stout's 17 runs were earned.  They're a good hitting team and you just can't give them all those extra outs.

Aaron Dott started and was relieved by Kale Olson, who was relieved by Greg Reik, who was relieved by Greg Donovan before Jacobson came in to finish the final 1.2 innings and pick up his third win against one loss.  Jeff Donovan and Bret Adamson each went 3x4.  Donovan drove in 6 and scored 4 times while Adamson had a pair of RBI.  Corcoran, Zalnis and Ben Prather each had two hits and 2 RBI, 3 RBI, 2 RBI respectively.  

I doubt there was more than 10 minutes of daylight left when the umpires ruled the game over right around 7:30pm.  

Assuming the game two was a win the WARHAWKS improve to 8-2 in the WIAC and 17-4 on the season.  With a 3-11 conference record Stout will miss the tournament.  

Wednesday's double hitter with Carroll was cancelled by Carroll and has been replaced with a double hitter tomorrow vs Luther College in Decorah, Ia.  



Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 15, 2008, 12:57:50 AM
How did Whitewater score 20 runs and have only 4 LOB in Game 2? That is amazing. For contrast, Oshkosh had 11 LOB in both games today.

Some RBI Baseball stat lines in that one, too. Two guys combine to drive in 13 and one team scored 14 in an inning? Must have been an interesting one to watch.

I'm a bit concerned that UWO committed seven errors today. I guess it's nice to sweep a DH when you strand 22 runners and commit seven errors, but I thought the D was the Titans' best asset when I've seen them this year.

Can't wait for Wednesday's Point/Oshkosh DH, just to see what kind of patchwork pitching both teams come up with.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 15, 2008, 09:54:42 AM
To think that I almost missed it.  I probably never would have heard the end of that.  lol

The school record for runs in an inning is 16 (vs. Carroll).   That was the same game in which they set the school record for home runs in an inning with 6.  So far we've had a five consecutive home run inning and now a 14 run inning.  This team is interesting to watch because you really don't know what might happen next, good or bad.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 15, 2008, 02:55:54 PM
Oshdude
I don't mean to be overly personal but I have to know if the avatar picture is actually you or is it some one else?    Sorry, I don't recognize it and it's been bugging me since you started using it. 



PS. The avatar I'm using is not me. :D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 15, 2008, 05:24:15 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 15, 2008, 02:55:54 PM
Oshdude
I don't mean to be overly personal but I have to know if the avatar picture is actually you or is it some one else?    Sorry, I don't recognize it and it's been bugging me since you started using it. 
PS. The avatar I'm using is not me. :D

Nah, I'm a college student.

The avatar is of the man from The Big Lebowski who played the part of "Smokey," whose pacifism cost him and his teammate, Gene, eight vital pins in a quarterfinal league bowling game. Though it must be said that Smokey is not a total pacifist, because he did report the incident to Fred of the Southern Cal Bowling League.

Walter and The Dude subsequently rolled their way into the finals as a result of Smokey's nonconfrontational demeanor in the quarterfinals and by defeating the pushovers Quintana (he can roll) and O'Brien (aka Seamus) in the semis. And they won despite Walter drawing a loaded weapon upon Smokey during league play. It's pretty durn'd interesting.

Musician Jimmie Dale Gilmore, my avatar, played Smokey. Thanks for asking. I abide.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on April 15, 2008, 05:30:15 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 15, 2008, 05:24:15 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 15, 2008, 02:55:54 PM
Oshdude
I don't mean to be overly personal but I have to know if the avatar picture is actually you or is it some one else?    Sorry, I don't recognize it and it's been bugging me since you started using it. 
PS. The avatar I'm using is not me. :D

Nah, I'm a college student.

The avatar is of the man from The Big Lebowski who played the part of "Smokey," whose pacifism cost him and his teammate, Gene, eight vital pins in a quarterfinal league bowling game. Though it must be said that Smokey is not a total pacifist, because he did report the incident to Fred of the Southern Cal Bowling League.

Walter and The Dude subsequently rolled their way into the finals as a result of Smokey's nonconfrontational demeanor in the quarterfinals and by defeating the pushovers Quintana (he can roll) and O'Brien (aka Seamus) in the semis. And they won despite Walter drawing a loaded weapon upon Smokey during league play. It's pretty durn'd interesting.

Musician Jimmie Dale Gilmore, my avatar, played Smokey. Thanks for asking. I abide.

Its too bad about Donny....Donny was a good bowler, and a good man. He was one of us. He was a man who loved the outdoors... and bowling, and as a surfer he explored the beaches of Southern California, from La Jolla to Leo Carrillo and... up to... Pismo. He died, like so many young men of his generation, he died before his time. In your wisdom, Lord, you took him, as you took so many bright flowering young men at Khe Sanh, at Langdok, at Hill 364. These young men gave their lives. And so would Donny. Donny, who loved bowling.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 15, 2008, 05:36:27 PM
Quote from: Slinger45 on April 15, 2008, 05:30:15 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 15, 2008, 05:24:15 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 15, 2008, 02:55:54 PM
Oshdude
I don't mean to be overly personal but I have to know if the avatar picture is actually you or is it some one else?    Sorry, I don't recognize it and it's been bugging me since you started using it. 
PS. The avatar I'm using is not me. :D

Nah, I'm a college student.

The avatar is of the man from The Big Lebowski who played the part of "Smokey," whose pacifism cost him and his teammate, Gene, eight vital pins in a quarterfinal league bowling game. Though it must be said that Smokey is not a total pacifist, because he did report the incident to Fred of the Southern Cal Bowling League.

Walter and The Dude subsequently rolled their way into the finals as a result of Smokey's nonconfrontational demeanor in the quarterfinals and by defeating the pushovers Quintana (he can roll) and O'Brien (aka Seamus) in the semis. And they won despite Walter drawing a loaded weapon upon Smokey during league play. It's pretty durn'd interesting.

Musician Jimmie Dale Gilmore, my avatar, played Smokey. Thanks for asking. I abide.

Its too bad about Donny....Donny was a good bowler, and a good man. He was one of us. He was a man who loved the outdoors... and bowling, and as a surfer he explored the beaches of Southern California, from La Jolla to Leo Carrillo and... up to... Pismo. He died, like so many young men of his generation, he died before his time. In your wisdom, Lord, you took him, as you took so many bright flowering young men at Khe Sanh, at Langdok, at Hill 364. These young men gave their lives. And so would Donny. Donny, who loved bowling.
Ah, another Achiever. And a good day to you, sir!

That was a moving eulogy until Walter turned yet another seemingly benign act into a travesty.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 15, 2008, 07:04:45 PM
Thanks, Oshdude.  I've got a business associate who thinks "The Big Lebrowski" is one of the best movies ever made.  He owns a copy and has watched it enough to know much of the dialogue by memory.  Surprisingly he seems to have a life as well. :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 15, 2008, 08:55:58 PM
WARHAWKS win a pair of close ones in nonconference play beating Loras 5-4 in 11 innings and 7-5 in 7 at Decorah.  No details were available.  19-4 on the season to date.

These games were hastily scheduled this week when Carroll had to cancel tomorrow's doublehitter to play a make up pair with Ripon.   If only it were that simple in football or basketball.  ;)

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on April 15, 2008, 10:44:49 PM
Boxes are up on WW site.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: for2n8john on April 16, 2008, 09:57:10 AM
I witnessed the Whitewater v Stout game 2 also.  The umpire squeezed down the strike zone after the 1st inning to about the range of a pitching machine consistancy.  The WW pitcher was chased out after 2 2/3.  The Stout pitcher lasted until the 4th and couldn't make quality pitches anymore.
The umpire didn't give anything on the outside or the corners.  It actually got tighter if the hitter was behind in the count.  The hitters figured it out that the pitchers had to throw it threw a hoop 3 times because  Blue wasn't giving any strike calls.  He was consistent, but it was obvously too tight a zone for college.  Batters sat on pitches to crush in their zone despite the counts.  Stout coach, Walters, got tossed in the 5th arguing over the strikezone.

There were a couple of pitchers (10 total) who throw well and none of them had any success until the end of the game when umpire went back to a fairer zone.  the score was ridiculous by than and he just wanted to get it er done.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 16, 2008, 10:10:42 AM
WHITEWATER was leading comfortably 4-1 in the ninth and starter Steve Hedgepath, though he'd surrendered 10 hits,  had held Luther in check.  However he was replaced by Jason Hooper and Luther rallied scoring 3 runs on 4 hits and a WW error and left the bases loaded before Joe Munn put a stop to it.  The play went into the eleventh when Ben Prather led off with a double, was advanced to third on a fly ball and scored on a sacrifice fly by Matt Millar.  Luther got a runner on base but Munn got a strikeout and a groundout to end the game the winner.  Prather led the offense going 3x5 with 1 RS and 1 RBI.  Ben Kuhlmann went 2x5 with an RBI and Kevin Zalnis added an RBI.   The defense was sloppy again committing 4 errors.  We've got get better with our gloves.

Mike Jacobson went the distance (7 inn) in game two surrendering 5 runs (4 ER) on 5 hits striking out 6 and walking a pair.   Luther jumped on top early scoring all 5 of their runs in the second inning on three hits, highlighted by a bases loaded triple, a walk and an error.  The WARHAWKS answered with a run in the third with the help of two Luther errors, another run in the fourth on two hits and five more in the fifth on 3 hits including Joe Munn's bases loaded double which drove in 3.   After the rough second inning Jacobson was sharp allowing only 2 hits and facing 17 hitters in the final 5 innings.  The offense was led by Munn who started in right field and went 2x4 with 3 RBI and a RS.  Sam Petrasko was 2x3 with an RBI and RS and Mike Kenseth added a pair of hits in 4 AB with an RBI and RS.   Only one error this game, much better.  

It was a hastely arranged affair and immediately following the physically draining pair with Stout and a 5 hour bus ride however it looks like a lot the back ups saw action and we came out on top twice.    Which obviously is a lot better than not playing at all.  

What are the conditions in Superior?  Did the snow melt off the field (or get removed) so there's a chance it will be playable?    


for2njohn, I agree with your assessment.   From my view I couldn't see if he was squeezing the corners but I could see that you had to throw the ball at the top of the knee or above if you wanted a strike called.   Dott, the starter, couldn't get a call down there to save his soul and theWARHAWK pitchers couldn't get ahead in the count.  Time after time they were down 2-0, 3-1 etc.  Stout can hit the hell out of the ball especially at the top of their lineup and if you have to keep grooving pitches they'll do what they did.    I also agree that the plate umpire was consistant and overall I thought the games were officiated pretty decently.




Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: for2n8john on April 16, 2008, 10:51:24 AM
The games were taped for TV.  It probably won't be televised.

It was consistent, but not "good" (fair) behind the plate.  I didn't like the WW Coach showing Blue up in the 1st game with his poor explanation of why he called a balk.   Volendich attempted to make a public debate about it.  That set the mood for game 2 when Blue moved behind the plate.

Stout showed they have as good an offensive club that can hit mistakes.  Do you have an opinion on the Stout starter?  - 3 runs allowed, but 6k's with that strikezone (Stine 2k's).

Also, WW beat Luther, not Loras.   Loras is in Dubuque.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 16, 2008, 12:45:22 PM
That's the second time in the recent past that I've confused Luther with Loras.  It appears to be one of those things I may never get straight though I did get right in the second post on the games.  duh

I was a little surprised they replaced the starter when they did.  He wasn't throwing that badly, had kept us relatively in check and had an 11 run lead.   I think it helped us getting him off the mound and seeing the string of relievers that we did.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on April 16, 2008, 03:24:07 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 16, 2008, 10:10:42 AM
WHITEWATER was leading comfortably 4-1 in the ninth and starter Steve Hedgepath, though he'd surrendered 10 hits,  had held Luther in check.  However he was replaced by Jason Hooper and Luther rallied scoring 3 runs on 4 hits and a WW error and left the bases loaded before Joe Munn put a stop to it.  The play went into the eleventh when Ben Prather led off with a double, was advanced to third on a fly ball and scored on a sacrifice fly by Matt Millar.  Luther got a runner on base but Munn got a strikeout and a groundout to end the game the winner.  Prather led the offense going 3x5 with 1 RS and 1 RBI.  Ben Kuhlmann went 2x5 with an RBI and Kevin Zalnis added an RBI.   The defense was sloppy again committing 4 errors.  We've got get better with our gloves.

Mike Jacobson went the distance (7 inn) in game two surrendering 5 runs (4 ER) on 5 hits striking out 6 and walking a pair.   Luther jumped on top early scoring all 5 of their runs in the second inning on three hits, highlighted by a bases loaded triple, a walk and an error.  The WARHAWKS answered with a run in the third with the help of two Luther errors, another run in the fourth on two hits and five more in the fifth on 3 hits including Joe Munn's bases loaded double which drove in 3.   After the rough second inning Jacobson was sharp allowing only 2 hits and facing 17 hitters in the final 5 innings.  The offense was led by Munn who started in right field and went 2x4 with 3 RBI and a RS.  Sam Petrasko was 2x3 with an RBI and RS and Mike Kenseth added a pair of hits in 4 AB with an RBI and RS.   Only one error this game, much better. 

It was a hastely arranged affair and immediately following the physically draining pair with Stout and a 5 hour bus ride however it looks like a lot the back ups saw action and we came out on top twice.    Which obviously is a lot better than not playing at all. 

What are the conditions in Superior?  Did the snow melt off the field (or get removed) so there's a chance it will be playable?   


for2njohn, I agree with your assessment.   From my view I couldn't see if he was squeezing the corners but I could see that you had to throw the ball at the top of the knee or above if you wanted a strike called.   Dott, the starter, couldn't get a call down there to save his soul and theWARHAWK pitchers couldn't get ahead in the count.  Time after time they were down 2-0, 3-1 etc.  Stout can hit the hell out of the ball especially at the top of their lineup and if you have to keep grooving pitches they'll do what they did.    I also agree that the plate umpire was consistant and overall I thought the games were officiated pretty decently.


its pretty warm here today and it was yesterday too, like 60'-70's so the games should be good to go this weekend.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 16, 2008, 08:33:56 PM
Defense, defense, defense. Oshkosh picked it, Point didn't. Oshkosh sweeps Point. Simple as that, in both games, but more evident in the opener.

Every UWO player had at least one great defensive play today. 3B Brock Wetenkamp, SS Derek Leighton and LF Pete Berg all had Webjem-quality plays today. RF Jason Fosler showed off his hose and 1B Brad Demmin and 2B Kyle Kannenberg were walls on the right side. It's an easy game when you can make the routine plays and then throw in spectacular plays.

UWO frosh pitchers Ryan Kuepper and Anthony Leaman gave the Titans HUGE innings. The UWO pitching depth held up better than the Point depth in Game 2, which had a one-sided home run derby feel to it for a while. But Oshkosh answered every crooked number, and put away Point late in Game 2.

One team made mistakes. The other team didn't make mistakes and capitalized on the opportunities it was given. EDIT: There were two UWO errors by the scorekeeper, apparently. The only UWO error committed on the field was with the bases empty and two outs late in the game. The other two were hits in my book.

Brad Demmin hit a grand slam to help cancel out the dinger binge Point went on in the middle innings of Game 2.

If Oshkosh plays like that the rest of the year, heads up Midwest Region. That's a big "if," but Oshkosh played some awesome ball today.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 16, 2008, 08:48:24 PM
For the curious the scores were 3-2, 14-10.  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 16, 2008, 08:54:48 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 16, 2008, 08:48:24 PM
For the curious the scores were 3-2, 14-10.  ;)
Formalities ... who woulda thunk that people care about scores? I mean, "oops." Thanks for having my back.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 16, 2008, 10:00:30 PM
Platteville committed six errors, gave up nine unearned runs and not surprisingly lost to Edgewood College 10-4.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 16, 2008, 11:46:27 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 16, 2008, 08:33:56 PM
EDIT: There were two UWO errors by the scorekeeper, apparently. The only UWO error committed on the field was with the bases empty and two outs late in the game. The other two were hits in my book.
I would say that UWO made two errors in game two, one by Wetenkamp (throw that pulled Demmin off of the base) and the other by Leighton (high chopper that he botched-wasn't an "easy" play, however if he doesn't take a step back, I think he gets a better hop and is able to make the play.) 

The slow roller that Scheidler hit to Wetekamp that they gave an error I would agree was the wrong call.  Even if the throw wasn't in the dirt, Scheidler had it beat out....

Other than that, if this DH was at Point, I'm going to say that they don't get five innings in in Game #2.  Point hit some balls well that were caught on the track that would have been HR's in Point.  Thankfully, Tiedemann is an actual baseball field where a routine fly ball isn't a home run.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 16, 2008, 11:47:47 PM
WIAC Standings (Through 4/16)
Whitewater 8-2
Oshkosh 11-3
Stevens Point 7-3
Platteville 5-5
La Crosse 5-9
Superior 3-9
Stout 3-11
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 17, 2008, 12:09:05 AM
Quote from: OshDude on April 16, 2008, 08:33:56 PM
Defense, defense, defense. Oshkosh picked it, Point didn't. Oshkosh sweeps Point. Simple as that, in both games, but more evident in the opener.

Every UWO player had at least one great defensive play today. 3B Brock Wetenkamp, SS Derek Leighton and LF Pete Berg all had Webjem-quality plays today. RF Jason Fosler showed off his hose and 1B Brad Demmin and 2B Kyle Kannenberg were walls on the right side. It's an easy game when you can make the routine plays and then throw in spectacular plays.

UWO frosh pitchers Ryan Kuepper and Anthony Leaman gave the Titans HUGE innings. The UWO pitching depth held up better than the Point depth in Game 2, which had a one-sided home run derby feel to it for a while. But Oshkosh answered every crooked number, and put away Point late in Game 2.

One team made mistakes. The other team didn't make mistakes and capitalized on the opportunities it was given. EDIT: There were two UWO errors by the scorekeeper, apparently. The only UWO error committed on the field was with the bases empty and two outs late in the game. The other two were hits in my book.

Brad Demmin hit a grand slam to help cancel out the dinger binge Point went on in the middle innings of Game 2.

If Oshkosh plays like that the rest of the year, heads up Midwest Region. That's a big "if," but Oshkosh played some awesome ball today.
Props to Oshkosh today. They were the better team on the field. Have to be surprised though by the number of homeruns hit out today. Very impressed with the Oshkosh pitching, see where they are at coming into the tournament though.  And not so sure things would have played out differently if the games were played in Point. That was a wicked wind blowing today, if it was like that at Point, I don't think there would have been more homeruns. Be happy with the wins today, chances are you will see Kempf and Nix next week. Maybe the outcome will be different(maybe not, but that's why you play the games).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 19, 2008, 09:07:02 PM
Oshkosh was not sharp today. The little things got away from them at times, but two wins are two wins (11-7, 8-7). Titans seemed to be cruising in both games, but luckily they had just enough in the bank to get by.

Curt Hendricks bailed himself out with the double play ball in Game 2. Hendricks was all over the place but effective. And Ryan Demmin gave up some big hits.

Overall, some chinks in the UWO armor, and both games ended just in time. Another inning or two and Stout maybe steals one or both. Speaking of, if UWO plays like that tomorrow, Stout will win one.

As you can tell by the boxscores, Stout used eight pitchers, one each inning, in both games. Interesting strategy, especially in the early innings when Stout starts a LHP to face UWO's 1-4, who all hit LH. The bottom five for UWO hit RH (except Waupoose in Game 2). Besides that, I think that's a good way to get through 36 innings against a ranked team, when you don't have a bonafide stud-type guy to go through a lineup a few times. All Stout pitchers should be able to throw another 1 or 2 IP tomorrow.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 19, 2008, 09:29:26 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 19, 2008, 09:07:02 PM
Oshkosh was not sharp today. The little things got away from them at times, but two wins are two wins (11-7, 8-7). Titans seemed to be cruising in both games, but luckily they had just enough in the bank to get by.

Curt Hendricks bailed himself out with the double play ball in Game 2. Hendricks was all over the place but effective. And Ryan Demmin gave up some big hits.

Overall, some chinks in the UWO armor, and both games ended just in time. Another inning or two and Stout maybe steals one or both. Speaking of, if UWO plays like that tomorrow, Stout will win one.

As you can tell by the boxscores, Stout used eight pitchers, one each inning, in both games. Interesting strategy, especially in the early innings when Stout starts a LHP to face UWO's 1-4, who all hit LH. The bottom five for UWO hit RH (except Waupoose in Game 2). Besides that, I think that's a good way to get through 36 innings against a ranked team, when you don't have a bonafide stud-type guy to go through a lineup a few times. All Stout pitchers should be able to throw another 1 or 2 IP tomorrow.

Interesting strategy but did not seem to work if they gave up 19 runs in 2 games. At least they can come back and pitch tomorrow
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 19, 2008, 09:36:22 PM
WIAC Standings (Through 4/19)
Oshkosh 13-3
Whitewater 8-2
Stevens Point 7-3
Platteville 5-5
La Crosse 5-9
Superior 3-9
Stout 3-13

Platteville/Point and Whitewater/Superior were both postponed and rescheduled for Monday April 21st.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 20, 2008, 08:35:51 PM
WIAC Standings (Through 4/20)
Oshkosh 15-3
Whitewater 9-2
Stevens Point 9-3
Platteville 5-7
La Crosse 5-9
Superior 3-10
Stout 3-15
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 20, 2008, 09:20:42 PM
Oshkosh sweeps Stout today, by scores of 14-2 and 9-5.  Junior Greg Perelwitz throws a CG in Game #1 giving up just two runs on six hits, while striking out nine.  Both Nolan Fadness and Brad Demmin connect for three-run HR's to pace the Titan offense.  Interstingly, UWO's seventh, eighth, and ninth place hitters combine to go 8-11 in Game #1.  After scoring seven runs in the 2nd to take a 7-1 lead, UWO crusies to the victory.  In Game #2, UWO scores five runs in the bottom of the seventh inning, with the big blows being a Brad Demmin solo HR and a Blake Berger three-run HR to turn a 5-4 deficit into 9-5 lead.  Jeremy Rubens comes in in the 6th inning and gives up just two hits in four innings to improve to 6-1 on the season. 

With neither Ryan Demmin or Rubens starting over the weekend, (although Demmin did throw 6 1/3 in relief) it looks like UWO will have both available to start on Wednesday at Point if needed.

Point sweeps Platteville today 6-3 and 13-0 in seven innings.  In the opener, Point scores three runs on the bottom of the 8th for the victory, with Brad Frank providing the key shot, a two run HR to give the Pointers a 5-3 lead.  In the nightcap it was all Pointers early and often (13-0 after three innings) which allowed the Pointers to pull Garrett Nix after just three innings.  I noticed he was still credited with the win, which must be a judgment call by the official scorer.  You can pretty much bank on Nix starting one of the two games against Oshkosh on Wednesday after the light work load today.  Kempf threw six innings in Game #1, so I would think he would be unavailable on Wednesday, except maybe in relief in the right situation.

Whitewater beats Superior 13-0 in seven innings, as Adam Dominick (5 IP) and Steve Hedgepath (2 IP) combine to no-hit the Yellow Jackets.  The teams are scheduled to play a tripleheader at the Metrodome tomorrow, starting at 1:00.  If memory serves correct, there was a triple-header a few years back, but for the life of me I can't remember the teams that were involved.  I'm curious to see if the they will be playing three seven inning games, or three nine inning games tomorrow.  I guess if they go like today, it doesn't really matter, as they will all be seven inning games.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 20, 2008, 09:29:23 PM
Adam Dominick and Steve Hedgepath combined to no hit Superior and the offense settled the manner early with 7 hits and 6 runs in the first inning as the WARHAWKS won 13-0.  Dominick went 5 innings striking out 9 and Hedgepath struck out 2 in the last two innings.   The two combined to face only 22 batters.  Ben Prather went 3x4, had 3 RS and an RBI.   Jordan Stine was 2x5 with 3 RBI and Joe Munn went 2x3 with 4 RBI.  Billy Johnson, Mike Kenseth and Ben Kuhlmann all had two hits apiece.  

Game two was a victim of rain and the two teams will play 3 games tomorrow in the MetroDome.   That should be interesting.  
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 22, 2008, 12:12:55 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 20, 2008, 09:20:42 PM
Oshkosh sweeps Stout today, by scores of 14-2 and 9-5.  Junior Greg Perelwitz throws a CG in Game #1 giving up just two runs on six hits, while striking out nine.  Both Nolan Fadness and Brad Demmin connect for three-run HR's to pace the Titan offense.  Interstingly, UWO's seventh, eighth, and ninth place hitters combine to go 8-11 in Game #1.  After scoring seven runs in the 2nd to take a 7-1 lead, UWO crusies to the victory.  In Game #2, UWO scores five runs in the bottom of the seventh inning, with the big blows being a Brad Demmin solo HR and a Blake Berger three-run HR to turn a 5-4 deficit into 9-5 lead.  Jeremy Rubens comes in in the 6th inning and gives up just two hits in four innings to improve to 6-1 on the season. 

With neither Ryan Demmin or Rubens starting over the weekend, (although Demmin did throw 6 1/3 in relief) it looks like UWO will have both available to start on Wednesday at Point if needed.

Point sweeps Platteville today 6-3 and 13-0 in seven innings.  In the opener, Point scores three runs on the bottom of the 8th for the victory, with Brad Frank providing the key shot, a two run HR to give the Pointers a 5-3 lead.  In the nightcap it was all Pointers early and often (13-0 after three innings) which allowed the Pointers to pull Garrett Nix after just three innings.  I noticed he was still credited with the win, which must be a judgment call by the official scorer.  You can pretty much bank on Nix starting one of the two games against Oshkosh on Wednesday after the light work load today.  Kempf threw six innings in Game #1, so I would think he would be unavailable on Wednesday, except maybe in relief in the right situation.

Whitewater beats Superior 13-0 in seven innings, as Adam Dominick (5 IP) and Steve Hedgepath (2 IP) combine to no-hit the Yellow Jackets.  The teams are scheduled to play a tripleheader at the Metrodome tomorrow, starting at 1:00.  If memory serves correct, there was a triple-header a few years back, but for the life of me I can't remember the teams that were involved.  I'm curious to see if the they will be playing three seven inning games, or three nine inning games tomorrow.  I guess if they go like today, it doesn't really matter, as they will all be seven inning games.
Point and Platteville played a tripleheader last year-Point won all three games.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 22, 2008, 08:50:40 AM
WIAC Standings (Through 4/21)
Whitewater 12-2
Oshkosh 15-3
Stevens Point 11-3
Platteville 5-9
La Crosse 5-9
Superior 3-13
Stout 3-15

BIG showdown on Wednesday, as Point travels to Oshkosh for a DH.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 22, 2008, 11:29:22 AM
A split would be nice.  :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on April 22, 2008, 01:27:17 PM
A Titan sweep would be better.  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 22, 2008, 03:04:49 PM
Getting two games in would be best. It's been raining off and on all day in Oshkosh. Supposed to be mostly sunny tomorrow, though. And Tiedemann Field drains well. Should see the best pitchers from both teams. They all should be fairly rested (as far as WIAC P's can be rested this time of year) except UWO's Greg Perlewitz and maybe Curt Hendricks.

Garrett Nix/Travis Kempf vs. Ryan Demmin, Game 1?
Nix/Kempf vs. ____, Game 2? Does Rubens get a start? Leaman? Committee of the guys who threw last weekend?

Sun plus both teams' aces? Sounds like a recipe for skipping classes.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on April 22, 2008, 04:39:05 PM
This is somewhat hard to believe given the slugfests the Warhawks have been in this year but they currently rank 10th in the country in team ERA

You can search here...

http://web1.ncaa.org/stats/StatsSrv/rankings?sportCode=MBA&rpt=wkly
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 22, 2008, 06:37:40 PM
Quote from: Barber Greene on April 22, 2008, 04:39:05 PM
This is somewhat hard to believe given the slugfests the Warhawks have been in this year but they currently rank 10th in the country in team ERA

You can search here...

http://web1.ncaa.org/stats/StatsSrv/rankings?sportCode=MBA&rpt=wkly

Yea thats pretty good, appears that team ERAs are not as low as years past across the nation.

Just had too look at for myself and most of their games are pretty low scoring except for one anomaly against Stout when they gave up 17 runs only 7 earned even though it appeared that it should of been 11 earned because of a mistake by the score keeper in marking 4 runs as unearned but oh well it happens a lot im sure.

Surprised to not see more midwest teams ranked, only CSS at 19 is, which is not surprising for a team that is usually the best in the nation.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 22, 2008, 09:36:51 PM
The WARHAWKS finished the series with Superior by winning all three games of the rare triple hitter on Monday, 3-1, 5-4 (8 innings) and 6-2.  The pitching staff surrendered a total of 13 hits in the four game series.  Aaron Dott went the distance in the first game striking out 9.  Randy Johnson struggled again in the second game but Reik, Olson and Jacobson relieved and the WARHAWKS rallied from two down to tie the game in the seventh on Ben Kuhlmann's  2 out 2 RBI double and then pushed the winning run across in the eighth on three consecutive singles.  Joe Munn and Jason Hooper no hit Superior for six innings and the WARHAWKS led 6-0 before Superior put a pair on the board on two hits in their last at bat in the final. 

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 22, 2008, 09:58:15 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 22, 2008, 03:04:49 PM
Getting two games in would be best.
That won't be a problem at all.....  I would be willing to bet Coach Lechnir had the guys put the tarp on after practice last night, since rain was already predicted for today.  They probably took it off before practice this afternoon, and more than likely, most of the rain will have soaked into the outfield before tomorrow rolls around.

Quote from: OshDude on April 22, 2008, 03:04:49 PMGarrett Nix/Travis Kempf vs. Ryan Demmin, Game 1?
Nix/Kempf vs. ____, Game 2? Does Rubens get a start? Leaman? Committee of the guys who threw last weekend?
My guess, Nix vs Demmin in Game #1, with Rubens in relief if it is a close game.  Game #2, Kempf vs Matson??, unless Rubens doesn't throw in Game #1, which then he would probably get the start.

I would doubt that Hendricks sees the mound on three days rest, considering he is coming off of Tommy John surgery.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 23, 2008, 11:11:47 AM
Even if Rubens throws a few innings in Game 1, I could see him starting Game 2, especially if Oshkosh loses Game 1. UWO doesn't need its top guys for a while after today. I doubt even Curt Hendricks throws against Carroll and maybe Marian, depending on how today goes. If you somehow get two against Point, I assume it's better to get your top innings guys some rest rather than use them against Marian. Don't get me wrong. Marian is good, but I don't see the benefit in going with your top three guys against them when everything after Marian is what's important.

With any luck, the young guys can get UWO through Carroll and Marian, setting up the staff nicely for Platteville and beyond.

On a side note, good call by Lechnir scheduling 36 (probably completing 35) games. It doesn't matter what team the other four would be against, this UWO staff doesn't need another 36 innings.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on April 23, 2008, 01:04:58 PM
Lecnir will ride Ruebens as long as he can, he is on a good amount of rest right now. He knows that today the conference is on the line.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: xyz123 on April 23, 2008, 01:49:17 PM
Are the Point v Oshkosh games on the radio anywhere that can be streamed on the web?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 23, 2008, 02:39:12 PM
Oshkosh 3
Point 0        Bottom 2nd

Demmin vs Nix is the pitching match-up.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 23, 2008, 03:30:04 PM
Point 5
Oshkosh 3     Top 4th
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 23, 2008, 03:43:34 PM
Point 11
Oshkosh 4     5th Inning

All 11 runs off of Demmin.....  Anthony Leaman now pitching for UWO.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 23, 2008, 04:46:31 PM
Point 15
Oshkosh 4     FINAL (7 Inn.)

Would guess you'll see Kempf vs Rubens in the nightcap......
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: xyz123 on April 23, 2008, 04:53:07 PM
Thanks for the updates cubs!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on April 23, 2008, 05:04:21 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 23, 2008, 04:46:31 PM
Point 15
Oshkosh 4     FINAL (7 Inn.)

Would guess you'll see Kempf vs Rubens in the nightcap......
Did UWO kick it around or is STP just on fire with the bats.
I would NOT want to be in the dugout or postgame right now--Lechnir is going to have a few things to say.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 23, 2008, 08:16:32 PM
Little bit of everything today in Oshkosh. Some good/not-so-good pitching, some good hitting, some good/bad fielding and a not-so-good bench-clearing skirmish. And on such a beautiful day, too ... ;). Can't we all just be friends?

Anyway, final of Game 2 was Oshkosh 11, Point 2 4, if you missed it. Nolan Fadness, Brock Wetenkamp, Mike Thrun and Ben Warwick all ejected in Game 2. I'll let someone else describe what led to the benches clearing because I'm pretty biased on this one.

EDIT: Oh, and Jeremy Rubens went the whole way. Dude's pretty darn good.
And Kempf didn't throw in Game 2, but he did hold down a big lead for a couple in Game 1. Really surprised to see him be a nonfactor today. Didn't see a reason why he came in in the first game, and to start Thrun in Game 2, when UWO just beat him a few days ago, didn't make a lot of sense to me. Then again, I don't get paid to coach.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 23, 2008, 08:20:40 PM
Quote from: BRONKO7 on April 23, 2008, 05:04:21 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 23, 2008, 04:46:31 PM
Point 15
Oshkosh 4     FINAL (7 Inn.)

Would guess you'll see Kempf vs Rubens in the nightcap......
Did UWO kick it around or is STP just on fire with the bats.
I would NOT want to be in the dugout or postgame right now--Lechnir is going to have a few things to say.
The latter on that one. Ryan Demmin just couldn't get off the field after two outs. Some smashes off of him, and Doug Coe was a beast in Game 1.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 23, 2008, 08:45:20 PM
WIAC Standings (Through 4/23)
Whitewater 14-2
Oshkosh 16-4
Stevens Point 12-4
La Crosse 7-9
Platteville 5-11
Superior 3-13
Stout 3-17
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 23, 2008, 09:39:44 PM
The WARHAWKS pounded out 33 hits and beat Platteville in two seven inning games 14-2, 15-2.

Adam Dominick went 6.1 innings in the first game allowing 2 runs on 3 hits and 2 walks while striking out 9.  He was relieved by Steve Hedgepath who struck out both hitters he faced.  The game was 4-0 after 5 innings but the WARHAWKS scored 5 runs in the sixth and another 6 in the seventh to end the game early.  Jordan Stine homered and finished 4x5 with 5 RBI.  Ben Prather had a pair of hits and drove in 4 runs.

Mike Jacobson also went 6.1 innings in game two.  He allowed 2 runs on 5 hits, a pair of walks and struck out 5.  Kale Olson relieved Jacobson and retired both hitters he faced.  Jeff Donovan was 4x5 with 5 RBI.  Tom Corcoran and Kevin Zalnis both homered and had a pair of hits.  Corcoran drove in 4 and Zalnis 3. 

It was a good day to be a WARHAWK fan. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 23, 2008, 09:45:59 PM
Just some thoughts running through my head....

-If Whitewater goes 7-1 over their last eight games (4 at La Crosse, 4 vs Point) they will have definitely earned the Conference title.

-Oshkosh may be lucky that they have 4 non-conference games coming up if there are any suspensions follwoing today's brawl.  If players have to sit, it wouldn't be a WIAC game if they act quick enough.

-Point has to finish with 8 games on the road (4 at Stout , 4 at Whitewater.)  If they sweep Stout, they will need to take 3 out of 4 at Whitewater (assuming Whitewater takes all four from La Crosse) and hope Platteville can get at least one from Oshkosh if they want any part of a WIAC Championship.

-Superior is going to have A LOT to say about who gets the #4 spot, having four games left against both Platteville and La Crosse, ALL at Superior.  Superior will need to take 3 out of four in both series if they want to have any chance of being the fourth team in the WIAC tournament.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gashouse_Gang on April 23, 2008, 10:29:53 PM
So who is going to break the silence regarding the bench clearing brawl in the UWO/UWSP game?

I realize some of you may be bias, but let's hear your side.

WHAT HAPPENED?!?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 23, 2008, 10:30:46 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 23, 2008, 08:16:32 PM
Little bit of everything today in Oshkosh. Some good/not-so-good pitching, some good hitting, some good/bad fielding and a not-so-good bench-clearing skirmish. And on such a beautiful day, too ... ;). Can't we all just be friends?

Anyway, final of Game 2 was Oshkosh 11, Point 2 4, if you missed it. Nolan Fadness, Brock Wetenkamp, Mike Thrun and Ben Warwick all ejected in Game 2. I'll let someone else describe what led to the benches clearing because I'm pretty biased on this one.

EDIT: Oh, and Jeremy Rubens went the whole way. Dude's pretty darn good.
And Kempf didn't throw in Game 2, but he did hold down a big lead for a couple in Game 1. Really surprised to see him be a nonfactor today. Didn't see a reason why he came in in the first game, and to start Thrun in Game 2, when UWO just beat him a few days ago, didn't make a lot of sense to me. Then again, I don't get paid to coach.


I agree time to share it with everyone!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 23, 2008, 10:31:51 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 23, 2008, 09:45:59 PM
-Oshkosh may be lucky that they have 4 non-conference games coming up if there are any suspensions follwoing today's brawl.  If players have to sit, it wouldn't be a WIAC game if they act quick enough.
Is that the rule for sure? It's the next game and not the next WIAC game? Would be great for Oshkosh, if that's the case.

Something tells me there may be either more suspensions doled out or the expected ones modified in some way. There were a few TV cameras there, and I'm fairly certain both sides didn't feel justice was served today. I think some tapes will be sent to the commissioner's office for review. I have no inside info. Just a strong hunch.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 23, 2008, 10:37:27 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 23, 2008, 10:31:51 PM
I'm fairly certain both sides didn't feel justice was served today.
Interesting to see former UWO player Sam Spurney get plunked to lead off the 9th inning in an 11-2 game....  I'm sure it wasn't intentional though..... ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 23, 2008, 11:00:14 PM
So this is what I found in the NCAA rule book on fighting, but not sure what happened. Page 63-65

http://www.ncaa.org/library/rules/2007/2007_baseball_rules.pdf 


Not sure if this applies to D3 but would assume so. That means it would be a 3 game suspension if there were punches thrown and what not
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 23, 2008, 11:00:38 PM
OK, but this is one person's view. I'd appreciate a Point fan's take.

Bottom of the 5th, 2 outs, Brad Demmin on first, Nolan Fadness on third.
Zielke enters the game and does the old "fake to third, wheel to first."
Demmin gets in a rundown. Fadness dashes toward home.
Fadness is meat – out by five feet.
Fadness makes a late, hard slide into Ben Warwick Garrett Bloom. Nolan really got in on him and added a little forearm into the mix.
Warwick Bloom holds on and rolls backwards toward his dugout, Fadness splayed across the plate.
Three outs and the ump looked like he immediately ejected Fadness. He made an emphatic out sign and then a really emphatic gesture with his arm to indicate the ejection, all in one motion.
Before Warwick Bloom or Fadness can even get up, three Pointers (I don't know which for sure) are on top of the play. I mean they bolted.
A little jawing for 10 seconds, and then UWO comes out and the rest of the Pointers.
Then there's too much going on to give a detailed account.
I know one UWO player was giving a Pointer the business in one fight. Vice versa in another. It doesn't really matter who they were, but the tape and probable subsequent suspensions will let you know.
By this time there's the usual taunts among fans and players.
Fadness and Wetenkamp ran out to their positions to start the sixth, but the umps called them back and they went downstairs for the night.
Thrun and Warwick chirped their way to the team bus about a quarter mile from the Pointer dugout and through the UWO crowd.
Bloom, Lechnir, the umps and UWO AD Al Ackerman had a meet-and-greet behind the plate. The UWO contingent didn't seem too pleased with the result of that conversation.

In sum, it was a good, hard slide IMO. It is how that play should go down. Was there a little shiver in there? Yes. It's a baseball play. It may not have been pretty or graceful, but I've seen worse at second on double plays.

Both teams were issued warnings, and there was no funny stuff after that. Unless you count the UWO guys who came in for the ejected players clutching up and helping put the game away as funny stuff. Personally, I did. But a Pointer fan probably wouldn't find that too hilarious. There was a HBP in the ninth, but I don't think there was anything to it. The umps didn't do anything about it, anyway. And it just grazed the Point batter who may or may not have been a former UWO player ... But like I wrote, there was nothing to it IMO.

So that's my least biased way of telling what happened. That's basically the facts with a pinch of opinion. Again, I'd like a Pointer fan's view on it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 24, 2008, 12:37:20 AM
Quote from: OshDude on April 23, 2008, 11:00:38 PM
OK, but this is one person's view. I'd appreciate a Point fan's take.

Bottom of the 5th, 2 outs, Brad Demmin on first, Nolan Fadness on third.
Zielke enters the game and does the old "fake to third, wheel to first."
Demmin gets in a rundown. Fadness dashes toward home.
Fadness is meat – out by five feet.
Fadness makes a late, hard slide into Ben Warwick. Nolan really got in on him and added a little forearm into the mix.
Warwick holds on and rolls backwards toward his dugout, Fadness splayed across the plate.
Three outs and the ump looked like he immediately ejected Fadness. He made an emphatic out sign and then a really emphatic gesture with his arm to indicate the ejection, all in one motion.
Before Warwick or Fadness can even get up, three Pointers (I don't know which for sure) are on top of the play. I mean they bolted.
A little jawing for 10 seconds, and then UWO comes out and the rest of the Pointers.
Then there's too much going on to give a detailed account.
I know one UWO player was giving a Pointer the business in one fight. Vice versa in another. It doesn't really matter who they were, but the tape and probable subsequent suspensions will let you know.
By this time there's the usual taunts among fans and players.
Fadness and Wetenkamp ran out to their positions to start the sixth, but the umps called them back and they went downstairs for the night.
Thrun and Warwick chirped their way to the team bus about a quarter mile from the Pointer dugout and through the UWO crowd.
Bloom, Lechnir, the umps and UWO AD Al Ackerman had a meet-and-greet behind the plate. The UWO contingent didn't seem too pleased with the result of that conversation.

In sum, it was a good, hard slide IMO. It is how that play should go down. Was there a little shiver in there? Yes. It's a baseball play. It may not have been pretty or graceful, but I've seen worse at second on double plays.

Both teams were issued warnings, and there was no funny stuff after that. Unless you count the UWO guys who came in for the ejected players clutching up and helping put the game away funny stuff. Personally, I did. But a Pointer fan probably wouldn't find that too hilarious. There was a HBP in the ninth, but I don't think there was anything to it. The umps didn't do anything about it, anyway. And it just grazed the Point batter who may or may not have been a former UWO player ... But like I wrote, there was nothing to it IMO.

So that's my least biased way of telling what happened. That's basically the facts with a pinch of opinion. Again, I'd like a Pointer fan's view on it.
[/quote) The catcher was Garrett Bloom,, not Ben Warwick. The play at the plate was not typical hard slide, Fadness did his best to take out Bloom. Honestly can't say who came out of the dugout first,  but there were enough punches thrown either way. Saw someone try to put Bloom through the fence. Umpire was correct in throwing Fadness out.
And seeing as Point knows what its like to lose a player for an entire year(Coe last year, same type of play), the Pointer fans had every right to be upset. And I would imagine if Point had tried that to your catcher, you would be calling us totally classless. Apparently this goes back to last week-something between Thrun and Fadness.
You would have thought that would have turned the momentum in Point's favor, but it didn't. Ruebens is definetly the real deal. But I will say your fans were much worse then the Pointer fans.
As to why Thrun started the 2nd game, your guess is as good as mine. Rumor was Zielke was to start game 2, then the coach changed his mind. One thing is for sure, we will play each other again in a couple of weeks at the WIAC tournament. Good luck with the remainder of your season and see you at the WIAC Tournament.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 24, 2008, 01:00:50 AM
Right on. Thanks for the catcher correction. And thanks for your take on how things went down. Greatly appreciated.

And you're right ... this is just another chapter. Can't wait for round 3, if you'll pardon the pun.

Anything in particular with the fans or just an overall perception? Hope it wasn't too bad. Things got a bit heated on and off the field for those 10 minutes or so.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 24, 2008, 09:59:18 AM
Following the Oshkosh/WARHAWK brawl a few years ago both head coaches were suspended for a game and Doug Henry, our pitching coach, was suspended for three games if I remember correctly.  I don't recall any players being suspended.  Henry had struck the Oshkosh scorer who felt he needed to be involved and had rushed onto the field with the players.   He sued but I never heard how that was resolved.  It was an ugly scene. 

I think any suspensions handed out will be for conference games.  If they aren't, they should be.

Of course Garrett Bloom is head coach Howard Bloom's son.  I played high school baseball with Howard Bloom ( useless trivial information).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 24, 2008, 10:12:55 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 24, 2008, 09:59:18 AM

Of course Garrett Bloom is head coach Howard Bloom's son.  I played high school baseball with Howard Bloom ( useless trivial information).


Whoa, whoa, BW.

The head coach of UWSP is Pat Bloom.  Garrett Bloom is Pat Bloom's younger brother.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Mr. Downtown on April 24, 2008, 10:27:07 AM
What is the ruling in the WIAC/NCAA with close plays at home plate?

I know in the WIAA, you pretty much cannot touch the catcher for safety reasons. If the catcher is blocking the plate, you can slide into them, but cannot throw a forearm to knock the ball out of the mitt.

I wonder if the NCAA/WIAC has the same ruling? If that's the case then Fadness should have been thrown out (like he was) immediately.

However, their is NO reason why Stevens Point should have cleared the benches IMO. Anytime their are plays at home plate, you as the runner, or you as the catcher, have to do everything possible to win that situation. Sliding into a catcher who is blocking the plate is like sliding into a brick wall. A great way to injure any part of the lower leg. A forearm to the glove might give you a bruise, or if you have weak wrists, worse. With the ruling, it's always more dangerous for the runner then for the catcher (again, my opinion).

If the Pointers and their fans believe it was to protect their player I'm sorry to say this, but toughen up a bit? Just because one catcher got hurt in a bang-bang play doesn't mean that all catchers are going to get hurt... If anything, from listening to the game on the radio, Oshkosh deserved one ejection, but Point instigated the other 3 players to be tossed.

Like Harry Truman once said "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen." (I've been paying probably too much attention to the Democratic Race and not the WIAC race... :-\)



Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 24, 2008, 11:47:59 AM
Quote from: Just Bill on April 24, 2008, 10:12:55 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 24, 2008, 09:59:18 AM

Of course Garrett Bloom is head coach Howard Bloom's son.  I played high school baseball with Howard Bloom ( useless trivial information).


Whoa, whoa, BW.

The head coach of UWSP is Pat Bloom.  Garrett Bloom is Pat Bloom's younger brother.

My bad, of course you are absolutely correct.  I would have been a pretty old high schooler to have played with Pat.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 24, 2008, 11:59:09 AM
Here is the Collison Rule cut-and-pasted directly from the NCAA Baseball rule book:

Collision Rule
SECTION 7. The rules committee is concerned about unnecessary and violent collisions with the catcher at home plate, and with infielders at all bases. The intent of this rule is to encourage base runners and defensive players to avoid such collisions whenever possible.

     a. When there is a collision between a runner and a fielder who clearly is in possession of the ball, the umpire shall judge:
          (1) Whether the collision by the runner was avoidable (could the runner have reached the base without colliding) or unavoidable (the runner's path to the base was blocked);
          (2) Whether the runner actually was attempting to reach the base (plate) or attempting to dislodge the ball from the fielder; or
          (3) Whether the runner was using flagrant contact to maliciously dislodge the ball.
     PENALTY—If the runner attempted to dislodge the ball, the runner shall be declared out even if the fielder loses possession of the ball. The ball is dead and all other base runners shall return to the last base touched at the time of the interference.
     A.R. 1—If the fielder blocks the path of the base runner to the base (plate), the runner may make contact, slide into, or collide with a fielder as long as the runner is making a legitimate attempt to reach the base or plate.
     A.R. 2—If the collision by the runner was malicious, the runner shall be declared out and also ejected from the contest. The ball shall be declared dead.
     A.R. 3—If the runner is safe and the collision is malicious, the runner shall be ruled safe and ejected from the game. If this occurs at any base other than home, the offending team may replace the runner.


     b. If the defensive player blocks the base (plate) or base line clearly without possession of the ball, obstruction shall be called. The umpire shall point and call, "That's obstruction." The umpire shall let the play continue until all play has ceased, call time and award any bases that are justified in Rule 2. The obstructed runner is awarded at least one base beyond the base last touched legally before the obstruction.
     A.R.—If the base runner collides flagrantly, the runner shall be declared safe on the obstruction, but will be ejected from the contest. The ball is dead.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 24, 2008, 12:13:29 PM
Quote from: Mr. Downtown on April 24, 2008, 10:27:07 AM
What is the ruling in the WIAC/NCAA with close plays at home plate?

I know in the WIAA, you pretty much cannot touch the catcher for safety reasons. If the catcher is blocking the plate, you can slide into them, but cannot throw a forearm to knock the ball out of the mitt.

I wonder if the NCAA/WIAC has the same ruling? If that's the case then Fadness should have been thrown out (like he was) immediately.

However, their is NO reason why Stevens Point should have cleared the benches IMO. Anytime their are plays at home plate, you as the runner, or you as the catcher, have to do everything possible to win that situation. Sliding into a catcher who is blocking the plate is like sliding into a brick wall. A great way to injure any part of the lower leg. A forearm to the glove might give you a bruise, or if you have weak wrists, worse. With the ruling, it's always more dangerous for the runner then for the catcher (again, my opinion).

If the Pointers and their fans believe it was to protect their player I'm sorry to say this, but toughen up a bit? Just because one catcher got hurt in a bang-bang play doesn't mean that all catchers are going to get hurt... If anything, from listening to the game on the radio, Oshkosh deserved one ejection, but Point instigated the other 3 players to be tossed.

Like Harry Truman once said "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen." (I've been paying probably too much attention to the Democratic Race and not the WIAC race... :-\)




I can't believe you would come up with the quote from Harry Truman.  Being at the game, and not listening to the broadcast(Oshkosh broadcast), I'm sure it was not an objective play by play. Everything happened very fast. Maybe the home plate umpire should have done a better job of controlling Fadness, seeing as he was in the middle of Bloom and Fadness. I believe Fadness threw a punch at Bloom, which started the whole mess. And this in no way was anything like the Oshkosh/Whitewater mess. And you can't say that if this happens to a player on your team, his teammates should not stand up for him, as BOTH benches did. It was ugly, plain and simple. Yes, Point beat Oshkosh in game 1 15-4, but they were WINNING game 2 3-0 at the time. So what was the point of the take out attempt? And don't just come down on the Point fans, Oshkosh fans had a hand in this as well. And good luck to Oshkosh or Whitewater in winning the conference. Point has done very well the last 2 years,not winning the conference, but making it to the World Series.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on April 24, 2008, 12:45:06 PM
If he was as dead at the plate as others have made it sound, by rule the runner has to make the effort to avoid the contact. Obviously there is intent to dislodge the ball from the catcher through contact. So the umpire was right in calling him out and ejecting Fadness.
As for running the catcher in my opinion bring it on, as most catchers will tell you. It's part of the game and I understand the NCAA wanting to protect kids but there is a lot of emotions running in these types of games and the fact that you cant run the catcher creates a situation like the one at Oshkosh. If running the catcher was a legal play, people expect it to happen and do not react by rushing the field.
The whole issue with fans is absurd, the visiting squad is always going to take the heat. Remember its 75% the home teams parents, alums and fans. If this was at Stevens Point we'd be hearing it from there side. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 24, 2008, 01:01:40 PM
Quote from: BRONKO7 on April 24, 2008, 12:45:06 PM
If he was as dead at the plate as others have made it sound, by rule the runner has to make the effort to avoid the contact. Obviously there is intent to dislodge the ball from the catcher through contact. So the umpire was right in calling him out and ejecting Fadness.
As for running the catcher in my opinion bring it on, as most catchers will tell you. It's part of the game and I understand the NCAA wanting to protect kids but there is a lot of emotions running in these types of games and the fact that you cant run the catcher creates a situation like the one at Oshkosh. If running the catcher was a legal play, people expect it to happen and do not react by rushing the field.
The whole issue with fans is absurd, the visiting squad is always going to take the heat. Remember its 75% the home teams parents, alums and fans. If this was at Stevens Point we'd be hearing it from there side. 
Point well taken. But if the same thing happened in Point I can't imagine the results or the fans reaction any differnet. And Point has the largest parent and fan following of the schools. And this is one of the biggest rivalries, besides Point and Whitewater. I guess it is a macho thing, seeing as Point, Oshkosh and Whitewater, year in and year out are the top teams. And yes, Fadness was dead at the plate, well before he reached it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 24, 2008, 01:31:21 PM
Update from the fight yesterday.  Garrett Bloom ended up with a fractured wrist. So say what you want-ending a players season, was not worth what Fadness did.
Side note, a Ripon player was at the game and couldn't believe that Fadness would intentionally try to take out Bloom the way he did. Thought he had more class than that.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on April 24, 2008, 01:50:30 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on April 24, 2008, 10:12:55 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 24, 2008, 09:59:18 AM

Of course Garrett Bloom is head coach Howard Bloom's son.  I played high school baseball with Howard Bloom ( useless trivial information).


Whoa, whoa, BW.

The head coach of UWSP is Pat Bloom.  Garrett Bloom is Pat Bloom's younger brother.

But is Pat and Garrett sons of Howard.  Inquiring minds need to know.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 24, 2008, 02:38:53 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 24, 2008, 09:59:18 AM
I think any suspensions handed out will be for conference games.  If they aren't, they should be.
So if this would have happened in a NC game, would that mean the suspensions would be in the next NC game the teams played?  Of course not.....  so why should the suspensions have to be for a conference game if that is not the next game?  

As far as the bolded comment, I have to wonder if you would be singing a different tune if this was Whitewater/Oshkosh or Whitewater/Point instead of Point/Oshkosh.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 24, 2008, 03:17:50 PM
It should be a conference game because it occurred in a conference game.  You can agree or disagree as you wish but that's my opinion.  Bloom is probably out for the season so Fadness missing a single conference game seems a small price to pay.   But I'm sure Oshkosh fans would prefer it to happen in a meaningless nonconference game because, after all, it is next.  That's their opinion and they're entitled to it. 

What happens if it takes the commissioner's office time to investigate and by the time he reaches a decision Oshkosh has a conference game up next? Would it be unfair to suspend them for that game because the investigation wasn't completed in time to suspend them for the next game?  And what if Stevens Point has someone suspended? They should miss a conference game because it's next while Oshkosh misses a nonconference one, that's fair in your book?

Suspensions come from the commissioners office.  I don't know the answer to this question but does the conference commissioner have the authority to suspend someone for something that happened in a nonconference game? 

I sang the same tune when it was WHITEWATER/Oshkosh so you need not wonder.   Not being aware of any WHITEWATER/Stevens Point brawls I can only speculate that I'd take the same stand. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 24, 2008, 03:26:52 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 24, 2008, 01:50:30 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on April 24, 2008, 10:12:55 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 24, 2008, 09:59:18 AM

Of course Garrett Bloom is head coach Howard Bloom's son.  I played high school baseball with Howard Bloom ( useless trivial information).


Whoa, whoa, BW.

The head coach of UWSP is Pat Bloom.  Garrett Bloom is Pat Bloom's younger brother.

But is Pat and Garrett sons of Howard.  Inquiring minds need to know.
YES
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 24, 2008, 03:36:06 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 24, 2008, 03:17:50 PM
It should be a conference game because it occurred in a conference game.  You can agree or disagree as you wish but that's my opinion.  Bloom is probably out for the season so Fadness missing a single conference game seems a small price to pay.   But I'm sure Oshkosh fans would prefer it to happen in a meaningless nonconference game because, after all, it is next.  That's their opinion and they're entitled to it. 

What happens if it takes the commissioner's office time to investigate and by the time he reaches a decision Oshkosh has a conference game up next? Would it be unfair to suspend them for that game because the investigation wasn't completed in time to suspend them for the next game?  And what if Stevens Point has someone suspended? They should miss a conference game because it's next while Oshkosh misses a nonconference one, that's fair in your book?

Suspensions come from the commissioners office.  I don't know the answer to this question but does the conference commissioner have the authority to suspend someone for something that happened in a nonconference game? 

I sang the same tune when it was WHITEWATER/Oshkosh so you need not wonder.   Not being aware of any WHITEWATER/Stevens Point brawls I can only speculate that I'd take the same stand. 
BadgerWarhawk thanks for chiming in with your point of view. I totally agree with everything you said. And I can't see where there would be anything like this between Point and WW. We HATE your coach, but don't know of any issues with the players. And I would also take the same stand if it happened between our two teams.
Personally, I would like Fadness to miss the rest of the season. Seems fair as he ended Bloom's season. But I would guess the commissioner will follow the guidelines and rules, and whatever happens happens.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 24, 2008, 03:41:32 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 24, 2008, 03:17:50 PM
What happens if it takes the commissioner's office time to investigate and by the time he reaches a decision Oshkosh has a conference game up next? Would it be unfair to suspend them for that game because the investigation wasn't completed in time to suspend them for the next game?  And what if Stevens Point has someone suspended? They should miss a conference game because it's next while Oshkosh misses a nonconference one, that's fair in your book?
If that is the way the schedule plays out than so be it....

Obviously if they don't rule by Tuesday, I would agree any suspensions need to be served the next possible games.  You can bet there won't be any appeals and risk the chance of missing WIAC tournament games.  

In 2004, the Whitewater/Oshkosh brawl was on a Saturday, and the suspension were issued by Thursday, so one would think that at least gives us a timeline.  If the same timeline is followed this time, we should know of any suspension by Monday at the latest.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 24, 2008, 04:07:00 PM
Suspensions always occur in the next scheduled games regardless of whether the opponent is conference or not.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 24, 2008, 04:25:20 PM
Quote from: szlongball on April 24, 2008, 01:31:21 PM
Update from the fight yesterday.  Garrett Bloom ended up with a fractured wrist. So say what you want-ending a players season, was not worth what Fadness did.
Side note, a Ripon player was at the game and couldn't believe that Fadness would intentionally try to take out Bloom the way he did. Thought he had more class than that.
Oh, man ... hoping that wasn't going to be the case. Sincerely hope Garrett heals up.

Do you know whether the injury was a result of the collision or the melee? It's only natural to say it's from the collision no matter what, but I think it's a valid question. I saw some haymakers out there, and not technically sound haymakers, either.

We'll never know, but I don't think three Oshkosh guys bumrush the plate and set off the fight if the roles and locations were reversed. I think the fight started with those three, not the collision. There was a moment when it was Bloom, Fadness and those three Point guys at the plate. When those three led out and attacked and jawed, Oshkosh reacted. But that's where my bias really shows, and it doesn't matter so much whether it was justified. It just sucked all around.

I was at the 2004 Whitewater/Oshkosh brawl too. If you didn't know, the fight yesterday was a tea party compared to that mother. Doug Henry broke a dude's nose and was taken away in handcuffs that day. There were other memories of the "sweet science" and mixed martial arts that day that I'll remain quiet about. It's one of my least favorite baseball memories. That wasn't baseball. On side note I think I saw the UWO player who was hit by WW that day, in the stands yesterday.

Longball, do you know anything more about the Fadness/Thrun rift you touched on last night? Thrun plunked Fadness yesterday to put him on in the 5th, the inning of the fight. Thrun got one more out, intentionally walked Demmin and took a seat. The next batter, about four minutes later, was when the fight started, and Thrun was one of the first three out of the dugout.

Thrun also hit Fadness last Wednesday. So, that tells me that you are maybe on to something. Don't want to be a conspiracy theorist, and I don't think I would have connected any dots without you mentioning it, but that's intriguing. That might help explain how things escalated from the play itself to what ensued, because I don't think the play in and of itself was malicious. Maybe illegal (I think that's debatable, but I'll concede that) according to NCAA rules, but not malicious.

Two 150-pounders, one with a four-step headstart (Fadness stopped and started 3/4 down the line, if I remember correctly) and sliding, the other with gear ... I don't know. Still think it was a good, hard, unpoetic baseball play – the kind that happens evey once in awhile. And the kind that tends to get blown up when you have ultracompetitive longtime conference rivals.

That's all I'll say about it. You guys/gals can reply, but I'm ready to move on and watch some more baseball. I hope this doesn't take away from the rest of what's shaping up to be a great conference season. Good luck and a virtual high-5/handshake to all. Just because the players have issues, that doesn't mean we have to.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 24, 2008, 05:58:44 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 24, 2008, 04:25:20 PM
Quote from: szlongball on April 24, 2008, 01:31:21 PM
Update from the fight yesterday.  Garrett Bloom ended up with a fractured wrist. So say what you want-ending a players season, was not worth what Fadness did.
Side note, a Ripon player was at the game and couldn't believe that Fadness would intentionally try to take out Bloom the way he did. Thought he had more class than that.
Oh, man ... hoping that wasn't going to be the case. Sincerely hope Garrett heals up.

Do you know whether the injury was a result of the collision or the maylay? It's only natural to say it's from the collision no matter what, but I think it's a valid question. I saw some haymakers out there, and not technically sound haymakers, either.

We'll never know, but I don't think three Oshkosh guys bumrush the plate and set off the fight if the roles and locations were reversed. I think the fight started with those three, not the collision. There was a moment when it was Bloom, Fadness and those three Point guys at the plate. When those three led out and attacked and jawed, Oshkosh reacted. But that's where my bias really shows, and it doesn't matter so much whether it was justified. It just sucked all around.

I was at the 2004 Whitewater/Oshkosh brawl too. If you didn't know, the fight yesterday was a tea party compared to that mother. Doug Henry broke a dude's nose and was taken away in handcuffs that day. There were other memories of the "sweet science" and mixed martial arts that day that I'll remain quiet about. It's one of my least favorite baseball memories. That wasn't baseball. On side note I think I saw the UWO player who was hit by WW that day, in the stands yesterday.

Longball, do you know anything more about the Fadness/Thrun rift you touched on last night? Thrun plunked Fadness yesterday to put him on in the 5th, the inning of the fight. Thrun got one more out, intentionally walked Demmin and took a seat. The next batter, about four minutes later, was when the fight started, and Thrun was one of the first three out of the dugout.

Thrun also hit Fadness last Wednesday. So, that tells me that you are maybe on to something. Don't want to be a conspiracy theorist, and I don't think I would have connected any dots without you mentioning it, but that's intriguing. That might help explain how things escalated from the play itself to what ensued, because I don't think the play in and of itself was malicious. Maybe illegal (I think that's debatable, but I'll concede that) according to NCAA rules, but not malicious.

Two 150-pounders, one with a four-step headstart (Fadness stopped and started 3/4 down the line, if I remember correctly) and sliding, the other with gear ... I don't know. Still think it was a good, hard, unpoetic baseball play – the kind that happens evey once in awhile. And the kind that tends to get blown up when you have ultracompetitive longtime conference rivals.

That's all I'll say about it. You guys/gals can reply, but I'm ready to move on and watch some more baseball. I hope this doesn't take away from the rest of what's shaping up to be a great conference season. Good luck and a virtual high-5/handshake to all. Just because the players have issues, that doesn't mean we have to.
Hey Oshdude. Don't have the details of what the beef is between these two.  My guess is no one will comment on it. Just heard something to do with trash talking. I think both will need to think long and hard about it. Was it worth losing a teammate over or having to sit out X number of games. I agree it is over and we should all be able to move on.  And I would hope that when the teams meet again, nothing like this happens again. Unfortunately for Garrett Bloom, I don't think that will be an easy thing to do. And I am not sure if it was from the slide or the fight.  Either way, it still sucks.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gustie13 on April 24, 2008, 10:21:50 PM
Quote from: BRONKO7 on April 24, 2008, 12:45:06 PM
If he was as dead at the plate as others have made it sound, by rule the runner has to make the effort to avoid the contact. Obviously there is intent to dislodge the ball from the catcher through contact. So the umpire was right in calling him out and ejecting Fadness.
As for running the catcher in my opinion bring it on, as most catchers will tell you. It's part of the game and I understand the NCAA wanting to protect kids but there is a lot of emotions running in these types of games and the fact that you cant run the catcher creates a situation like the one at Oshkosh. If running the catcher was a legal play, people expect it to happen and do not react by rushing the field.
The whole issue with fans is absurd, the visiting squad is always going to take the heat. Remember its 75% the home teams parents, alums and fans. If this was at Stevens Point we'd be hearing it from there side. 

As a former catcher, i'd have to disagree with this statement. I knew the rule was that people had to slide, so I never considered getting plowed in a MIAC game. Now, in my MN Amateur games, where plowing the catcher is legal, I was prepared for it and knew how to handle it. But this is D3 baseball and the rules are no plowing.
I've seen and been involved in enough "4 step head start late slides" to know they are bush and probably malicious. A good hard slide happens in a bang bang play which this was not, from all accounts. If you're toast by 5 feet, you're toast, and the rules are written such that you can't take out your frustrations on the catcher. If you disagree with that, go stand 5 feet away from me and let me take my frustrations out on you with a pair of metal cleats on and see how it feels.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 24, 2008, 10:42:04 PM
Thanks Gustie13 for your take on the issue.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 25, 2008, 12:08:36 AM
As a neutral party I think the entire thing is terrible. I know their is some bad blood between UWW, UWO, and STP or at least appears to be. From what Ive heard UWW and STP coaches hate each other. From what Ive noticed at times (not all the time) is that some of these schools dont act with a lot of class. If you compare the WIAC with MIAC it fails in comparison to sportsmanship. Again in my opinion this all stems from the head coaches so until they act more sportsmanlike (profressional) this wont change.

All players should be suspended the standard 3 games (conference) and coaches 1 game. I think the WIAC is a very talented and well coached conference but they need to class it up some.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on April 25, 2008, 01:24:39 AM
I think they should have a rule that everyone gets to play. Good grief.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gustie13 on April 25, 2008, 08:17:02 AM
Quote from: janesvilleflash on April 25, 2008, 01:24:39 AM
I think they should have a rule that everyone gets to play. Good grief.

Yeah, equal playing time!  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 25, 2008, 09:16:53 AM
Came across this as I was surfing the net this morning......

WIAC Commissioner Gary Karner says he'll review a bench-clearing incident during a baseball game Wednesday between U-W Oshkosh and Stevens Point. It happened in the fifth inning of a double-header night-cap, when Nolan Fadness of Oshkosh collided with Pointers' catcher Garret Bloom on a play at the plate. Bloom took issue with the way Fadness slid, and he started following the runner to his dug-out after the play. Words were exchanged, and both benches cleared. Two players from each team were ejected. Karner says he'll review a T-V station's video of the incident, and decide if anyone will be punished. N-C-A-A rules call for a three-game suspension for players ejected for fighting.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 25, 2008, 01:36:54 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 25, 2008, 09:16:53 AM
Came across this as I was surfing the net this morning......

WIAC Commissioner Gary Karner says he'll review a bench-clearing incident during a baseball game Wednesday between U-W Oshkosh and Stevens Point. It happened in the fifth inning of a double-header night-cap, when Nolan Fadness of Oshkosh collided with Pointers' catcher Garret Bloom on a play at the plate. Bloom took issue with the way Fadness slid, and he started following the runner to his dug-out after the play. Words were exchanged, and both benches cleared. Two players from each team were ejected. Karner says he'll review a T-V station's video of the incident, and decide if anyone will be punished. N-C-A-A rules call for a three-game suspension for players ejected for fighting.


Do you have a link?  What's the source?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 25, 2008, 01:50:46 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on April 25, 2008, 01:36:54 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 25, 2008, 09:16:53 AM
Came across this as I was surfing the net this morning......
WIAC Commissioner Gary Karner says he'll review a bench-clearing incident during a baseball game Wednesday between U-W Oshkosh and Stevens Point. It happened in the fifth inning of a double-header night-cap, when Nolan Fadness of Oshkosh collided with Pointers' catcher Garret Bloom on a play at the plate. Bloom took issue with the way Fadness slid, and he started following the runner to his dug-out after the play. Words were exchanged, and both benches cleared. Two players from each team were ejected. Karner says he'll review a T-V station's video of the incident, and decide if anyone will be punished. N-C-A-A rules call for a three-game suspension for players ejected for fighting.
Do you have a link?  What's the source?
You'll have to click on the sports link on the left side of the page....

http://www.wrpnam.com/
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 25, 2008, 03:12:45 PM
Thanks!

Here's another article.   No new information.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=743461
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 25, 2008, 05:31:54 PM
Thanks, Cubs +1.
Correct me here, but it was Warwick and not Bloom who was the second Pointer ejected, right?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 25, 2008, 05:35:10 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 25, 2008, 05:31:54 PM
Thanks, Cubs +1.
Correct me here, but it was Warwick and not Bloom who was the second Pointer ejected, right?
Yes, you are correct....  Due to Warwick's ejection, Point had to put seldom used Steve Considine behind the plate after Bloom's injury.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 25, 2008, 05:41:12 PM
In a bit of trivia (I hope ;)), Gary Karner is the chair of the Midwest Region ranking committee. There are only four people on said committee. One is Illinois College head coach Jay Eckhouse and one is Augsburg HC Keith Bateman. The other is ... Stevens Point HC Pat Bloom.

Just thought I'd throw that out there for your consideration. Gotta love Midwest baseball. Lotta ins, a lotta outs and a lotta what-have-yous.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 25, 2008, 05:44:40 PM
If Bloom is hurt and Warwick is suspeneded, might Doug Coe have to catch?  Is his knee cleared to do that?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 25, 2008, 05:50:04 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on April 25, 2008, 05:44:40 PM
If Bloom is hurt and Warwick is suspeneded, might Doug Coe have to catch?  Is his knee cleared to do that?
I think so unless he recently tweaked something. Coe caught both ends of the DH against UWO in "round one," two Wednesdays ago.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 26, 2008, 11:06:18 AM
Hey BadgerWarhawk-got a question for you. How does WW get to play in the dome so much? Do they know someone or just have a lot of cash in their program?
Point/Stout games cancelled for today, and I can't see the weather improving in the next couple of days. Games have to be played and would think playing at the dome would make sense. If you know the answer, thanks, if not, that's okay too.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on April 26, 2008, 12:15:25 PM
I don't know the answer longball, but I did read that it's for rent at $400 an hour not including use of the scoreboard, which is another $35 an hour. Stout played WW there, so I'm sure they must know how to go about it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 26, 2008, 03:30:11 PM
Thanks janesville flash.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 26, 2008, 04:09:06 PM
We do have an inside connection in that one of our parents works in the Twin front office.  Though I don't know that it gets us any breaks except perhaps the ability to schedule it on short notice.  As far as the money I don't know.  The baseball program is very active in fund raising and selling gear so I guess they have the resources. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 26, 2008, 09:05:42 PM
The WARHAWKS and LaCrosse split today's doublehitter.  WW won the opener 14-7, LaCrosse took the second one 9-8. 

The WARHAWKS led 5-1 in game one but LaCrosse tied it 5-5 in the fifth and after WW went 7-5 tied it again 7-7 after six innings.  However WW scored 7 over the last three innings to put it away.  Steve Hedgepath went 4.2 innings before being relieved by Gregg Riek who finished and picked up the win.  Billy Johnson was 4x5 with 3 RS and Kevin Zalnis went 3x5 including a home run.  Zalnis, Joe Munn and Mike Kenseth all had 2 RBI. 

WW led 4-1 in game two but LaCrosse scored 6 (4 unearned) in the 5th to go ahead and added 2 more to increase the lead to 9-4 after seven innings.  WW scored 4 in the ninth and had bases loaded but fell a run short.  Joe Munn started but was relieved by Kale Olson after 3.2 innings.  Olson struggled and wasn't helped by some sloopy defense before being relieved by Greg Donovan who finished the final 4 innings.  Olson took the loss.  Billy Johnson drove in 4 runs and both Ben Kuhlmann and Ben Prather had 3 hits. 

The race tightens. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 26, 2008, 09:44:48 PM
Thank you, La Crosse. Thank you very much  ;).

Saw Point has six games over the next three days, with Ripon being the last two of those games. Adds to the opportunity for another in-region Point loss. After Ripon, Point has a single game against a decent Edgewood team the next day. Tough schedule heading into the Whitewater season-enders.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 26, 2008, 11:31:02 PM
Don't know how much we can read into this, but UWO's Nolan Fadness, Brock Wetenkamp (the players ejected this week) and RF Jason Fosler did not play today. My guess is that they were suspended and they all either started or completed their suspensions today.

All other regular UWO position players started both ends of today's DH.

Jeremy Rubens even played a little 2B today.
Curt Hendricks got an AB, but veteran UWO pitchers have sometimes received AB's in nonconference blowouts in the past. UWO's Brett Hubbard was in uniform today as well.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 27, 2008, 04:46:08 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 26, 2008, 11:31:02 PM
Don't know how much we can read into this, but UWO's Nolan Fadness, Brock Wetenkamp (the players ejected this week) and RF Jason Fosler did not play today. My guess is that they were suspended and they all either started or completed their suspensions today.

All other regular UWO position players started both ends of today's DH.

Jeremy Rubens even played a little 2B today.
Curt Hendricks got an AB, but veteran UWO pitchers have sometimes received AB's in nonconference blowouts in the past. UWO's Brett Hubbard was in uniform today as well.
In the same vein, Point LF Eric Fritz, DH/C Doug Coe and C Ben Warwick are not in the lineup in Game 2 against Stout today, according to Stout's live stats. Add to that P Mike Thrun and injured C Garrett Bloom and we may have our suspended players. Maybe not. Could be coincidence or the fact that it's Stout.

Anyone hear anything definitive?

EDIT: Coe just pinch-hit in Game 2. EDIT 2: Fritz also played.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 27, 2008, 04:57:46 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 27, 2008, 04:46:08 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 26, 2008, 11:31:02 PM
Don't know how much we can read into this, but UWO's Nolan Fadness, Brock Wetenkamp (the players ejected this week) and RF Jason Fosler did not play today. My guess is that they were suspended and they all either started or completed their suspensions today.

All other regular UWO position players started both ends of today's DH.

Jeremy Rubens even played a little 2B today.
Curt Hendricks got an AB, but veteran UWO pitchers have sometimes received AB's in nonconference blowouts in the past. UWO's Brett Hubbard was in uniform today as well.
In the same vein, Point LF Eric Fritz, DH/C Doug Coe and C Ben Warwick are not in the lineup in Game 2 against Stout today, according to Stout's live stats. Add to that P Mike Thrun and injured C Garrett Bloom and we may have our suspended players. Maybe not. Could be coincidence or the fact that it's Stout.

Anyone hear anything definitive?

Well it seems like those guys are not playing due to the suspensions. Despite it being Stout I think you will still play one of your three catchers. I see they have another catcher but hasnt played. I would of figured UWOs players would of had to sit out conference games, it only would seem fair.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on April 27, 2008, 08:07:03 PM
Congrats to the Warhawk softball team...WIAC regular season champs!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 27, 2008, 08:10:53 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 26, 2008, 11:31:02 PM
Don't know how much we can read into this, but UWO's Nolan Fadness, Brock Wetenkamp (the players ejected this week) and RF Jason Fosler did not play today. My guess is that they were suspended and they all either started or completed their suspensions today.

All other regular UWO position players started both ends of today's DH.

Jeremy Rubens even played a little 2B today.
Curt Hendricks got an AB, but veteran UWO pitchers have sometimes received AB's in nonconference blowouts in the past. UWO's Brett Hubbard was in uniform today as well.
-Another way of looking at it, is that Coach Lechnir wanted to get some playing time for guys that will step in if/when suspenions are handed down.

-Rubens likely played 2B after Hubbard pinch hit in the 8th for Feldman because of UWO not having any IF's left on the bench and Hubbard being an OF.

-Coach Lechnir typically gets his SENIOR pitchers (or Juniors who may get drafted, i.e. Jack Taschner) one AB in a game that has already been decided.  (This is why Rubens did not get an AB.)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 27, 2008, 08:14:00 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 27, 2008, 04:46:08 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 26, 2008, 11:31:02 PM
Don't know how much we can read into this, but UWO's Nolan Fadness, Brock Wetenkamp (the players ejected this week) and RF Jason Fosler did not play today. My guess is that they were suspended and they all either started or completed their suspensions today.

All other regular UWO position players started both ends of today's DH.

Jeremy Rubens even played a little 2B today.
Curt Hendricks got an AB, but veteran UWO pitchers have sometimes received AB's in nonconference blowouts in the past. UWO's Brett Hubbard was in uniform today as well.
In the same vein, Point LF Eric Fritz, DH/C Doug Coe and C Ben Warwick are not in the lineup in Game 2 against Stout today, according to Stout's live stats. Add to that P Mike Thrun and injured C Garrett Bloom and we may have our suspended players. Maybe not. Could be coincidence or the fact that it's Stout.

Anyone hear anything definitive?

EDIT: Coe just pinch-hit in Game 2.
Fritz ended up playing in both games of the DH as well, so Warwick is really the only noticable name missing, assuming Bloom won't be playing with a broke wrist suspension or not.  If Thrun doesn't throw tomorrow, then you could add his name as well.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 27, 2008, 08:35:10 PM
WIAC Standings (Through 4/27)
Whitewater 17-3
Oshkosh 16-4
Stevens Point 13-5
La Crosse 8-12
Platteville 7-11
Stout 4-18
Superior 3-15
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 27, 2008, 08:41:38 PM
The WARHAWKS took both ends of today's double hitter with LaCrosse 11-2 and 15-4 (7 innings).  Adam Dominick went the distance in game one surrendering 6 hits and striking out 12.  With the score 2-1 after four innings the WARHAWKS scored 4 runs after two outs on 3 singles and 2 hit batters in the fifth to put the game away.  Ben Kuhlmann, Ben Prather, Sam Petrasko and Billy Johnson all had 2 hits.  Prather, Petrasko, Johnson and Joe Munn each had 2 RBI.

Mike Jacobson went 6.2 innings for the win in game two.  Jacobson yielded 7 hits and struck out 4.  Every starter had a hit in the 15 hit attack.   Johnson led the way going 3x4 with 4 RBI and Greg Harder added a pair of hits and 4 RBI.  Tom Corcoran went 3x4 and Prather and Greg Donovan each had 2 hits.   Ben Kuhlmann connected for a 2 run home run.  The WARHAWKS decided this one early with an 8 run third inning that included 7 hits.  

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 27, 2008, 08:45:55 PM
Anyone able to comment on why Whitewater's Aaron Dott did not pitch at all this weekend?  

He didn't pitch on Wednesday against Platteville either, so it's not like he would have been going on short rest.  His last appearance was April 21st in Whitewater's 3-1 victory over Superior at the Metrodome where he got the CG victory.  

I guess it really wouldn't have caught my eye, except for the fact that Whitewater brought back both Jacobson and Dominick today on three days rest after both threw 6 1/3 innings on Wednesday against Platteville, while Dott never stepped on the mound having five days of rest.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 28, 2008, 01:57:38 AM
Quote from: BaseballFan on April 27, 2008, 04:57:46 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 27, 2008, 04:46:08 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 26, 2008, 11:31:02 PM
Don't know how much we can read into this, but UWO's Nolan Fadness, Brock Wetenkamp (the players ejected this week) and RF Jason Fosler did not play today. My guess is that they were suspended and they all either started or completed their suspensions today.

All other regular UWO position players started both ends of today's DH.

Jeremy Rubens even played a little 2B today.
Curt Hendricks got an AB, but veteran UWO pitchers have sometimes received AB's in nonconference blowouts in the past. UWO's Brett Hubbard was in uniform today as well.
In the same vein, Point LF Eric Fritz, DH/C Doug Coe and C Ben Warwick are not in the lineup in Game 2 against Stout today, according to Stout's live stats. Add to that P Mike Thrun and injured C Garrett Bloom and we may have our suspended players. Maybe not. Could be coincidence or the fact that it's Stout.

Anyone hear anything definitive?

Well it seems like those guys are not playing due to the suspensions. Despite it being Stout I think you will still play one of your three catchers. I see they have another catcher but hasnt played. I would of figured UWOs players would of had to sit out conference games, it only would seem fair.
Suspended players are Bloom, Warwick and Thrun.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 28, 2008, 02:04:18 AM
Quote from: OshDude on April 26, 2008, 09:44:48 PM
Thank you, La Crosse. Thank you very much  ;).

Saw Point has six games over the next three days, with Ripon being the last two of those games. Adds to the opportunity for another in-region Point loss. After Ripon, Point has a single game against a decent Edgewood team the next day. Tough schedule heading into the Whitewater season-enders.
Ripon games postponed again. If games in Stout don't happen tomorrow(chance of snow) would be played on Tuesday(guessing). Trying to play games against Ripon the following Tuesday. Apparently Ripon doesn't want to play then because of Conference Tournament(like Point won't be in the same boat). Either way, it's another rough week for Point.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 28, 2008, 02:09:28 AM
Oshdude, I have a couple of questions for you, you can answer or not.
Heard Fadness took out one of Superior's catchers, and he also got hurt, is this true?
Also heard that Lechnir congratulated his players on the brawl(Don't want to believe this one) true or false?
Don't want to stir up any hard feelings, just curious. I also respect you for your knowledge and seeming to be a decent person.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 28, 2008, 03:01:11 AM
Quote from: szlongball on April 28, 2008, 02:09:28 AM
Oshdude, I have a couple of questions for you, you can answer or not.
Heard Fadness took out one of Superior's catchers, and he also got hurt, is this true?
Also heard that Lechnir congratulated his players on the brawl(Don't want to believe this one) true or false?
Don't want to stir up any hard feelings, just curious. I also respect you for your knowledge and seeming to be a decent person.
I was at the Superior games, but I don't recall an incident or even a play at the plate. Then again, it was a long time ago. Slinger would be able to answer that one better than I. Did not hear anything about the brawl congrats, either. As an aside, I wonder if any other D-III baseball coach in history has had more junk talked about him than Tom Lechnir. I doubt it.

What I can say for sure is I'm happy Nolan plays for Oshkosh and that Lechnir is the head coach. I wouldn't want to face those two guys, and I respect them both.

I hope your guys take one or two from Whitewater this week. The No. 1 seed, like always, is essential (unless some team "pulls a Point" in elimination games this year).

And I may be decent, but I'll disagree with the other part of your last sentence. I'm not very smart.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Z71Warhawk on April 28, 2008, 07:49:34 AM
UW-Whitewater clinched sole possession of the Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference championship with a doubleheader sweep of UW-Eau Claire, 2-0 and 12-4, in Eau Claire Sunday.

UW-EC, now 25-9, came in to the day ranked eleventh in the National Fastpitch Coaches Association Division III poll.  UW-W, winners of twelve in a row, is now 28-6.

The Warhawks, 14-2 in league play, have completed their WIAC schedule.  Eau Claire, 10-4, has a doubleheader with Superior remaining on the schedule and UW-Oshkosh, 10-3, has three league games left.  UW-Whitewater will be the number one seed in the WIAC tournament, May 2-3 in Stevens Point.  The winner of the league's postseason tournament earns an automatic berth in the National Collegiate Athletic Association Division III championship. 

Congrats to UW-W :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 28, 2008, 08:45:14 AM
Quote from: OshDude on April 28, 2008, 03:01:11 AM
I hope your guys take one or two from Whitewater this week. The No. 1 seed, like always, is essential (unless some team "pulls a Point" in elimination games this year).
I don't see anyone pulling a Point this year for the simple fact that I don't think any of the top four teams have enough pitching to do it.  There also isn't a pitcher in the WIAC that can pull a Jordan Zimmerman and completely dominate on short rest if needed, at least in my eyes....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 28, 2008, 11:03:44 AM
Quote from: Z71Warhawk on April 28, 2008, 07:49:34 AM
UW-Whitewater clinched sole possession of the Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference championship with a doubleheader sweep of UW-Eau Claire, 2-0 and 12-4, in Eau Claire Sunday.

UW-EC, now 25-9, came in to the day ranked eleventh in the National Fastpitch Coaches Association Division III poll.  UW-W, winners of twelve in a row, is now 28-6.

The Warhawks, 14-2 in league play, have completed their WIAC schedule.  Eau Claire, 10-4, has a doubleheader with Superior remaining on the schedule and UW-Oshkosh, 10-3, has three league games left.  UW-Whitewater will be the number one seed in the WIAC tournament, May 2-3 in Stevens Point.  The winner of the league's postseason tournament earns an automatic berth in the National Collegiate Athletic Association Division III championship. 

Congrats to UW-W :)


It was the programs sixth conference championship and the first since 1999.   They were picked to finish fifth.  I would be surprised if Brenda Volk isn't the Coach of the Year. 

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.uwwsports.com%2Fimages%2Fsoftball%2F2008%2F4%2F27%2Fsoftballchamp.jpg&hash=0b7e5a6bde87833636a3333fd7179e7ae4a7cb0c)

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 28, 2008, 11:06:11 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 28, 2008, 08:45:14 AM

I don't see anyone pulling a Point this year for the simple fact that I don't think any of the top four teams have enough pitching to do it.


Except possibly Point.  I don't think it's coincidence that Point has won the conference tournament every year since it was moved off campus to Wisconsin Rapids. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 28, 2008, 11:40:58 AM
Badgerwarhawk-
Since you are the guy to talk to regarding anything with Whitewater athletics, are you just ignoring my question about Dott?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 28, 2008, 01:00:15 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 28, 2008, 11:40:58 AM
Badgerwarhawk-
Since you are the guy to talk to regarding anything with Whitewater athletics, are you just ignoring my question about Dott?

No, I don't know the reason and couldn't think of any reason to post that. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 28, 2008, 01:17:11 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 28, 2008, 01:00:15 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 28, 2008, 11:40:58 AM
Badgerwarhawk-
Since you are the guy to talk to regarding anything with Whitewater athletics, are you just ignoring my question about Dott?
No, I don't know the reason and couldn't think of any reason to post that. 
Gotcha....  I'm guessing if you don't know, it's pretty safe to assume we as fans aren't going to hear anything. 

Who knows, maybe there just isn't anything to it and I'm making something out of nothing..... :-\
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubsbaseball on April 28, 2008, 02:18:20 PM
Dott was in a knee brace for the La Crosse series this weekend.  Heard it was a torn ACL.  Do not know for sure. 

As for the Oshkosh/Point brawl, I am not at all surprised that Fadness was in the middle of it.  When Oshkosh was at LAX, everyone in the park wanted a piece of Fadness and Kannenberg.  They ran their mouths the whole series and were constantly in the LAX players faces anytime they got a hit or made a routine defensive play and by the third an forth game is was getting to be ridiculous.  Fadness is a great player, but in that series, he took every opprotunity to let anyone he went by know how good he is.  There is a difference between confidence and cockiness and he definitely was on the cocky side.  So an incident like this does not surpirse me at all.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 28, 2008, 03:05:09 PM
Just throwing this out there but since when did this become a baseball-softball thread!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 28, 2008, 03:19:03 PM
Quote from: BaseballFan on April 28, 2008, 03:05:09 PM
Just throwing this out there but since when did this become a baseball-softball thread!
I agree. Don't they have there own site?
Oshdude, thanks for your answers, and don't sell yourself short.
Pont beats Stout 17-0 in first game. Thrun pitches complete game and strikes out 10.
Even had Kempf pinch hit in the 7th.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 28, 2008, 04:36:18 PM
Quote from: szlongball on April 28, 2008, 03:19:03 PM
Quote from: BaseballFan on April 28, 2008, 03:05:09 PM
Just throwing this out there but since when did this become a baseball-softball thread!
I agree. Don't they have there own site?
Oshdude, thanks for your answers, and don't sell yourself short.
Pont beats Stout 17-0 in first game. Thrun pitches complete game and strikes out 10.
Even had Kempf pinch hit in the 7th.
If Thrun threw today, are we to assume that he got a two-game suspension? Any word on the others? Is Warwick's longer seeing as he didn't play again in Game 1? Unless he's hurt, I don't see how he's not suspended when you put Kevin Thomas behind the plate.

And I love the Oshkosh against the world stuff. I'm sure the UWO players and Lechnir do too. Everything is right with the world when the whole conference hates Oshkosh. That makes me feel good, but I must admit I naturally like confident/cocky players (huge Larry Bird and Reggie Miller fan, for example). It's just like the good old days before Whitewater and Point knocked UWO off the WIAC mountain top.

Welcome to the boards, cubsbaseball. At least we can agree on our favorite MLB team. As for favorite WIAC players, I'll take the hit and enjoy Kanny and Nolan while they're here. Everyone gets another two and three years, respectively, of hating those guys  ;). As an added bonus, next year there will be double the Fadnesses to hate. By the way, I'm sure it's evident to everyone, but Oshkosh returns everyone besides Curt Hendricks next year, barring transfers and what-have-you. Glad to see the anomosity already in high gear for this group.

Most of that is tongue-in-cheek, and I'm not a cocky dude myself. I'm an abider, not an instigator (For the Achievers out there, I don't draw a line in the sand with my unchecked aggression, as it were). But it is interesting how success, history and perceived cockiness go hand in hand (in hand).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 28, 2008, 05:10:23 PM
Game 2 Point vs Stout  Point 22 Stout 3 bottom of the 4th.
Thrun 1 game, Bloom and Warwick 3 games.
But if you are kicking butt big time, why not let the other guys see the field. Look out WW if the bats can stay this hot(yea I know it's only Stout, but I can dream).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 28, 2008, 09:10:06 PM
One thing I don't quite get is how you give a pitcher a one game suspension and position players multiple game suspensions.  It just doesn't add up to me.... ::) 

Thrun didn't miss anything because he is a starting pitcher whereas Warwick has to miss three games.  Anyone else find that odd?  There is a reason starting pitchers get five game suspensions in MLB so that it actually means something instead of just being able to flip the rotation and avoid the penalty.

As far as the Fadness' go, there could be three of them before all is said and done, as there is another one who is a Junior catcher at Eau Claire Memorial this year.  He was a 1st Team All Conference selection last year as a Sophomore.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 28, 2008, 09:12:43 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 28, 2008, 04:36:18 PM
And I love the Oshkosh against the world stuff. I'm sure the UWO players and Lechnir do too. Everything is right with the world when the whole conference hates Oshkosh.  It's just like the good old days before Whitewater and Point knocked UWO off the WIAC mountain top.
I know it's music to my ears!!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 28, 2008, 09:23:34 PM
Platteville and UWS split today only reason i mentioned it was because UWS was down 7-0 after 8 1/2 in game 1. UWS then scored 9 runs in the bottom of 9 on a three run walk off homer to win 9-7.
Only 3 of the total 16 runs scored were earned.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 28, 2008, 09:27:05 PM
WIAC Standings (Through 4/28)
*Whitewater 17-3
*Oshkosh 16-4
*Stevens Point 15-5
La Crosse 8-12
Platteville 8-12
Superior 4-16
Stout 4-20

*Clinched WIAC Tournament berth

What this means.....

-If Whitewater sweeps Point next week, they are the WIAC Champs.  If they win 3 out of 4, they clinch a tie for the WIAC Championship.  If they split, they need Platteville to win at least one game against Oshkosh to still get a share of the WIAC title.  If Point takes 3 out of 4, they finish tied with Point, however Point would hold the tie-breaker, unless Oshkosh splits with Platteville in which the three way tie-breaker would come into play and Oshkosh (5-3) would be the #1, Point (4-4) #2, and Whitewater (3-5) #3 after the head-to heads.

-Superior needs to sweep La Crosse and hope for Oshkosh to sweep Platteville which would result in a three-way tie for the #4 spot.  Superior would get the nod to the dance by virtue of their 5-3 head to head record (Platteville 3-5, La Crosse 2-6.)

Did I miss anything???
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Z71Warhawk on April 28, 2008, 10:33:13 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 28, 2008, 09:27:05 PM
WIAC Standings (Through 4/28)
*Whitewater 17-3
*Oshkosh 16-4
*Stevens Point 15-5
La Crosse 8-12
Platteville 8-12
Superior 4-16
Stout 4-20

*Clinched WIAC Tournament berth

What this means.....

-If Whitewater sweeps Point next week, they are the WIAC Champs.  If they win 3 out of 4, they clinch a tie for the WIAC Championship.  If they split, they need Platteville to win at least one game against Oshkosh to still get a share of the WIAC title.  If Point takes 3 out of 4, they finish tied with Point, however Point would hold the tie-breaker, unless Oshkosh splits with Platteville in which the three way tie-breaker would come into play and Oshkosh (5-3) would be the #1, Point (4-4) #2, and Whitewater (3-5) #3 after the head-to heads.

-Superior needs to sweep La Crosse and hope for Oshkosh to sweep Platteville which would result in a three-way tie for the #4 spot.  Superior would get the nod to the dance by virtue of their 5-3 head to head record (Platteville 3-5, La Crosse 2-6.)

Did I miss anything???


That will be a tall order for UW- Whitewater to sweep as they play 2 double hitters against the Pointers.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on April 29, 2008, 03:13:49 AM
Quote from: szlongball on April 28, 2008, 02:09:28 AM
Oshdude, I have a couple of questions for you, you can answer or not.
Heard Fadness took out one of Superior's catchers, and he also got hurt, is this true?
Also heard that Lechnir congratulated his players on the brawl(Don't want to believe this one) true or false?
Don't want to stir up any hard feelings, just curious. I also respect you for your knowledge and seeming to be a decent person.

That is true, force out at the plate and went out of the way, catcher ended up with a fractured leg....was pretty intentional....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on April 29, 2008, 03:16:52 AM
Quote from: BaseballFan on April 28, 2008, 09:23:34 PM
Platteville and UWS split today only reason i mentioned it was because UWS was down 7-0 after 8 1/2 in game 1. UWS then scored 9 runs in the bottom of 9 on a three run walk off homer to win 9-7.
Only 3 of the total 16 runs scored were earned.


and all the runs were scored with 2 outs....was quite the scene and apparently fsn was taping the games as well...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 29, 2008, 08:48:53 AM
So Fadness has ended the season of two players.  He had a hard slide/collision at the plate down here too.  The umpire ruled it legal but it was right on the edge and could have gone either way.  Fortunately no one was injured.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2008, 09:04:36 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 29, 2008, 08:48:53 AM
So Fadness has ended the season of two players. 
Depends on if Bloom broke his wrist on Fadness' slide or when he was throwing punches.....  If he did it throwing a punch, pretty hard to blame Fadness for that. ???
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tommiepitcher on April 29, 2008, 10:40:27 AM
Man - no love for Steven's Point this week.  With a record of 221-10 you'd think they'd move up more than three spots.

http://www.d3baseball.com/top25/2008/week-10
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 29, 2008, 10:52:34 AM
Quote from: tommiepitcher on April 29, 2008, 10:40:27 AM
Man - no love for Steven's Point this week.  With a record of 221-10 you'd think they'd move up more than three spots.

http://www.d3baseball.com/top25/2008/week-10
No wonder their pitching staff is tired.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 29, 2008, 12:49:27 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 29, 2008, 09:04:36 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 29, 2008, 08:48:53 AM
So Fadness has ended the season of two players. 
Depends on if Bloom broke his wrist on Fadness' slide or when he was throwing punches.....  If he did it throwing a punch, pretty hard to blame Fadness for that. ???
Sorry to break it to you, but the fractured wrist was because of the collision NOT the punches he may or may not have thrown.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2008, 01:08:35 PM
Quote from: szlongball on April 29, 2008, 12:49:27 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 29, 2008, 09:04:36 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 29, 2008, 08:48:53 AM
So Fadness has ended the season of two players. 
Depends on if Bloom broke his wrist on Fadness' slide or when he was throwing punches.....  If he did it throwing a punch, pretty hard to blame Fadness for that. ???
Sorry to break it to you, but the fractured wrist was because of the collision NOT the punches he may or may not have thrown.
Can I ask how anyone would know?

Your comment makes Bloom following Fadness towards his dugout all the more puzzling.....  One would think that a guy with a broken wrist as the result of a collision would be writhing in pain and not too concerned about "getting even."
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 29, 2008, 02:51:16 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 29, 2008, 01:08:35 PM
Quote from: szlongball on April 29, 2008, 12:49:27 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 29, 2008, 09:04:36 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 29, 2008, 08:48:53 AM
So Fadness has ended the season of two players. 
Depends on if Bloom broke his wrist on Fadness' slide or when he was throwing punches.....  If he did it throwing a punch, pretty hard to blame Fadness for that. ???
Sorry to break it to you, but the fractured wrist was because of the collision NOT the punches he may or may not have thrown.
Can I ask how anyone would know?

Your comment makes Bloom following Fadness towards his dugout all the more puzzling.....  One would think that a guy with a broken wrist as the result of a collision would be writhing in pain and not too concerned about "getting even."
I would think that Bloom should have an idea when it happened. And as for being in pain, everyone has their own level of tolerance. And he did come out in the next inning to catch.  Following Fadness and the next batter had to do with them talking trash to Bloom.
Again, I would assume he would know seeing as it involved him. We all have our own opinions about what happened, and a right to defend our teams. Fact is still, Fadness was ejected for an illegal take out of Bloom, and Bloom still has a fractured wrist. And don't forget this is quite a rilvary, so emotions were running high.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 29, 2008, 03:12:57 PM
Quote from: szlongball on April 29, 2008, 12:49:27 PM

Sorry to break it to you, but the fractured wrist was because of the collision NOT the punches he may or may not have thrown.


It doesn't make any difference anyway.  There wouldn't have been a fight if it weren't for the slide.  You can't treat the two as isolated incidents.  I've broken my wrist three times.  It hurts  but, depending on the severity of the break, you may not be withering in pain and if your adreneline was flowing you could easily follow someone and be oblivious to any pain.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 29, 2008, 03:25:14 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 29, 2008, 03:12:57 PM
Quote from: szlongball on April 29, 2008, 12:49:27 PM

Sorry to break it to you, but the fractured wrist was because of the collision NOT the punches he may or may not have thrown.


It doesn't make any difference anyway.  There wouldn't have been a fight if it weren't for the slide.  You can't treat the two as isolated incidents.  I've broken my wrist three times.  It hurts  but, depending on the severity of the break, you may not be withering in pain and if your adreneline was flowing you could easily follow someone and be oblivious to any pain.   
Yeah, I've also broken my wrist on a baseball field. Different circumstances – broke mine making a layed out, over-the-shoulder catch – but I had enough adrenalin flowing to take off my glove and punch the earth a few times with my broken wrist. Stupid earth ... it's so unforgiving at times.

That injury happen on Sunday, Slinger? I was in and out of the park that day. I'd like to think that I pay enough attention to the game while I'm there to remember a broken leg. I know there's no such thing as a "good" fractured leg, but are we talking compounded and may never play again or we'll see him next year?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2008, 03:36:58 PM
Quote from: szlongball on April 29, 2008, 02:51:16 PM
And don't forget this is quite a rilvary, so emotions were running high.
You are ABSOLUTELY correct on this!!!  It's been this way since about 1997 when Point stopped UWO's string of seven straight College World Series appearances.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 29, 2008, 05:57:08 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 29, 2008, 03:36:58 PM
Quote from: szlongball on April 29, 2008, 02:51:16 PM
And don't forget this is quite a rilvary, so emotions were running high.
You are ABSOLUTELY correct on this!!!  It's been this way since about 1997 when Point stopped UWO's string of seven straight College World Series appearances.
So what are you saying cubs, that because Point stopped UWO's streak over 10 years ago, it is okay to take out a player and end his season? Or is it just that is what started the rivalry? Rivalries shouldn't be so competitive, that you want to possibly end  a player's career.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on April 29, 2008, 06:52:02 PM
All this should be taken care of on the field. I hope the game hasn't changed so much since I played that no one knows how anymore.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2008, 09:02:44 PM
Quote from: szlongball on April 29, 2008, 05:57:08 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 29, 2008, 03:36:58 PM
Quote from: szlongball on April 29, 2008, 02:51:16 PM
And don't forget this is quite a rilvary, so emotions were running high.
You are ABSOLUTELY correct on this!!!  It's been this way since about 1997 when Point stopped UWO's string of seven straight College World Series appearances.
So what are you saying cubs, that because Point stopped UWO's streak over 10 years ago, it is okay to take out a player and end his season?Or is it just that is what started the rivalry? Rivalries shouldn't be so competitive, that you want to possibly end  a player's career.
First of all, it is NEVER alright to take out a player and end his season.  Please don't suggest I was saying that.

What I was saying was that this rivalry started to get gain some steam when Point won the Regional in 1997, nothing more....  However I'm sure that there are some "extra" emotions flowing between these teams now due to some recruiting issues between the schools.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 29, 2008, 11:42:34 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 29, 2008, 09:02:44 PM
Quote from: szlongball on April 29, 2008, 05:57:08 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 29, 2008, 03:36:58 PM
Quote from: szlongball on April 29, 2008, 02:51:16 PM
And don't forget this is quite a rilvary, so emotions were running high.
You are ABSOLUTELY correct on this!!!  It's been this way since about 1997 when Point stopped UWO's string of seven straight College World Series appearances.
So what are you saying cubs, that because Point stopped UWO's streak over 10 years ago, it is okay to take out a player and end his season?Or is it just that is what started the rivalry? Rivalries shouldn't be so competitive, that you want to possibly end  a player's career.
First of all, it is NEVER alright to take out a player and end his season.  Please don't suggest I was saying that.

What I was saying was that this rivalry started to get gain some steam when Point won the Regional in 1997, nothing more....  However I'm sure that there are some "extra" emotions flowing between these teams now due to some recruiting issues between the schools.

Thanks for clearing that up. Did not mean to imply that was what you were saying, just trying to understand where you were coming from on the issue.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 30, 2008, 12:42:00 AM
Oshkosh got by Marian tonight, 12-7 and 10-5. I may be the only one, but I was worried about those two games. UWO needed Jeremy Rubens for more than 6 IP, though.

UWO mashed in the first game, banging out 20 hits (basically by everyone but the studs).

I think Brock Wetenkamp, Nolan Fadness and Jason Fosler all served three-game suspensions because none played until the second game tonight. Brock celebrated his return by collecting 5 RBI and hitting a 3-run homer.

Now my focus shifts to the Big One. Any predictions or thoughts on the biggest DH of the WIAC season? With a healthy Aaron Dott, I like WW to win three. Without Dott, I have a four-game split. One thing's for sure (in my mind, at least) – a couple of those games will be slugfests.

I'll try to remember to post updated in-region records, OWPs and the rest (through tomorrow's games) on the region board before Thursday's second regional rankings, which I don't see changing much, if at all.  I think the top three should stay in that order. Does Ripon go with CSS or Olaf arriving? I guess some of that will be answered tomorrow with the SP/RC DH. I think Ripon needs to win one game to stay in the rankings this week. Point has a lot to lose tomorrow, IMO.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on April 30, 2008, 10:53:30 AM
Dont believe there will be any changes to the Midwest rankings even after what goes on today @ Ripon. These games won't be reported in time to make a difference. Next weeks rankings will be the ones to watch for, after the conferences are decided and people wrap up the regular season. I believe Point has a LOT to lose, not a conference regular season champion, potential to lose in region games. They need a sweep to keep them as a strong C contender if they falter in the WIAC tourney.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 30, 2008, 11:46:45 AM
Point and Ripon can somewhat make or break their season in the next 6 games. Point has Ripon and UWW. Ripon has Point and Norbert.

Obviously Ripon has a pretty good shot of making the regional by winning their weak tourney. i think they will go 3-3 in those 6 games and need to win the tourney to make it. If Ripon plays really well and goes 5-1 they might not need to win their tourney

Point needs to do well in their next 6 games to take the pressure of themselves. If they go 4-2 in those games they are in, 3-3 might get it done too. They are helped out by a weak region after the top 6 teams and can always win their conference. The sudden rise of Olaf might hurt Point though as they look like they are #7 team in the region. Olafs schedule is easy until the conference tourney and will most likely enter with a record of 26-10.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on April 30, 2008, 12:46:50 PM
Point is in a really tough spot, they need to have a good week. Olaf seems to be taking car of business on their side. They are essentailly battling for a C bid with Point. It is very difficult to take three teams from a conference, I think the WIAC is the exception due to the fact that any of the top three teams are worthy. But to put three teams in the midwest regional you would think that would be a scenario that included the MIAC only having one deserving team, earlier in the season that seemed to be the case but now who knows. Another could be sending a team to the central regional which could be a possibility due to the 500 mile rule.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 30, 2008, 02:56:15 PM
Very cool news item on former UWSP pitcher Jordan Zimmerman who is with the Nationals' High-Class A team:

The Nationals believe that right-hander Shawn Hill and lefty John Lannan are keepers in their rotation, and they could add two more potential building blocks if Class AAA righty Collin Balester arrives at the All-Star break and Class A righty Jordan Zimmermann by September. After that, the Nats could bid for younger free agents who would fit their building program. Dunn, 28, Indians left-hander C.C. Sabathia, 27, Brewers righty Ben Sheets, 29, and Dodgers shortstop Rafael Furcal, 30, would qualify. ...

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8086082/Trade-market-getting-ready-to-open-for-business

A WIACer in the Majors?  How cool would that be?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: xyz123 on April 30, 2008, 03:13:07 PM
"A WIACer in the Majors?  How cool would that be?"

About as cool as Jarrod Washburn.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 30, 2008, 03:31:57 PM
Quote from: xyz123 on April 30, 2008, 03:13:07 PM
"A WIACer in the Majors?  How cool would that be?"

About as cool as Jarrod Washburn.
And Jack Taschner.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 30, 2008, 05:06:12 PM
I am aware.

I should have said Another WIACer in the Majors, nitpickers.  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 30, 2008, 06:21:28 PM
Anyone have the results of the Point-Ripon DH today?  I heard Point was considering throwing Coe and Bushong for a few innings today.  Are they not taking Ripon seriously or what?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on April 30, 2008, 07:02:06 PM
Game 1 -- UWSP 4    Ripon 2  in 11 innings, game 2 is underway no score anywhere to be found.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 30, 2008, 07:51:47 PM
Thanks, I'm a little surprised about Point only scoring 4 runs.  Does Ripon have any pitching?  I agree with several other posts on here about Point needing to win both today and at least 2 of 4 this weekend.  I would add that they need to at least make the championship of the WIAC tourney also or they won't get an at large.  How about freshman, Jared Surman, being top 3 in hitting in the WIAC as a freshman? I know it's way too early but even being a huge Pointer fan I'm going to go out and say Oshkosh will win the World Series next year.  They are returning nearly everyone and will add Justin Jirschele out of Clintonvile, Jeremy's brother.  This kid will be an outstanding addition to an already loaded team.  All they will need is 1 more pitcher besides Ruebens to dominate.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 30, 2008, 08:28:26 PM
Split: 4-2 (11) Point, 7-4 Ripon. Uh oh.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 30, 2008, 08:34:19 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 30, 2008, 07:51:47 PM
Thanks, I'm a little surprised about Point only scoring 4 runs.  Does Ripon have any pitching?  I agree with several other posts on here about Point needing to win both today and at least 2 of 4 this weekend.  I would add that they need to at least make the championship of the WIAC tourney also or they won't get an at large.  How about freshman, Jared Surman, being top 3 in hitting in the WIAC as a freshman? I know it's way too early but even being a huge Pointer fan I'm going to go out and say Oshkosh will win the World Series next year.  They are returning nearly everyone and will add Justin Jirschele out of Clintonvile, Jeremy's brother.  This kid will be an outstanding addition to an already loaded team.  All they will need is 1 more pitcher besides Ruebens to dominate.
And of course they get Mickey *gulp ;)* Fadness back. UWO should be crazy good next year. SHOULD. We'll see, plus we around these parts have some big ideas about this year. But that's what being a fan is all about, I guess. Take that from a Cubs fan. This is always the year ... until next year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 30, 2008, 09:18:40 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 30, 2008, 08:28:26 PM
Split: 4-2 (11) Point, 7-4 Ripon. Uh oh.

Oshdude who you saying uh oh for?

I think Point for sure needs to go 2-2 if not 3-1 against Whitewater
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 30, 2008, 09:41:22 PM
Quote from: BaseballFan on April 30, 2008, 09:18:40 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 30, 2008, 08:28:26 PM
Split: 4-2 (11) Point, 7-4 Ripon. Uh oh.

Oshdude who you saying uh oh for?

I think Point for sure needs to go 2-2 if not 3-1 against Whitewater
"Uh oh" because Point is in trouble. Serious trouble. I'm leaning toward 3-1 as necessary. Anything less and we might see Olaf in the future rankings, not Point. Makes things very interesting, that's all.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 30, 2008, 10:00:18 PM
I am not meaning this is a slam against Ripon but I did not forsee Point losing to them no matter who they pitched today.  I figured Point would be able to pound whoever they put out there and win a slugfest.  I am certainly disappointed in Points record this year but kind of expected them to be up and down especially when Hemstead was unavailable for the year.  Personally, I believe with Hemstead we would be talking about Point as a legit contender for a World Series berth.  They are really missing his experience and innings.  Don't get me wrong Delorit has filled in nicely for Point and TK has pitched well but their just one pitcher short like the year Whitewater won the title but Point beat them 5 times.  I am still wishing Josh Perkins would've been back that year instead of the following year.  I know Point has won the past 3 WIAC titles but one things missing, Jordan Zimmerman and the nearly automatic W when he pitched.  I think TK and Nix would have to pitch really well for them to have a shot.  Looking ahead to regionals I would say it should be some interesting ball.  St. Thomas will be extremely tough with Lonnie Robinsen on the hill.  I believe he mowed down Oshkosh once this year already.  I really wouldn't like Point to do much even if they do get lucky and make regionals primarily because they rely so much on the HR and have used that to their advantage the past few years at Witter Field.  They just don't seem to be able to string hits together and consistenly put up 2-3 runs per inning.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 30, 2008, 10:01:51 PM
The WARHAWKS swept Concordia 13-2 (7 innings) and 12-7.  Randy Johnson got the start and the win in game one allowing a single hit and no runs in 3 innings.  Bryant Ganser finished and pitched well holding Concordia to a pair of hits.  Ben Kuhlman, Matt Schliewe, Cory Trepanier, Ben Prather and Billy Johnson all hit home runs.  Johnson went 4x4 and his home run was a grand slam.

It was pitching by committee in game two.  Gregg Riek got a rare start.  Steve Hedgepath, Kevin Harves, Greg Donovan and Jason Hooper relieved.  Hedgepath got the win.  Kevin Zalnis went 4x5 and Prather was 3x5 with 2 RBI.  Tom Corcoran added a home run and 2 RBI.  Schliewe and Johnson had a pair of hits apiece.

WHITEWATER had 32 hits in the double hitter.  
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 30, 2008, 10:28:14 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 30, 2008, 09:41:22 PM

"Uh oh" because Point is in trouble. Serious trouble. I'm leaning toward 3-1 as necessary. Anything less and we might see Olaf in the future rankings, not Point. Makes things very interesting, that's all.

Ok thats what I assumed and I agree with you new rankings could look like below I ranked 6 so obviously if they only rank 5 take off number 6.

1. Oshkosh
2. Thomas
3. UWW
4. Ripon--did think they would be swept by Point, disappointed in Points offense or surprised by Ripons pitching
5. CSS
6. STP or Olaf

I seriously think they cant put CSS behind Point or Olaf now.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 30, 2008, 10:39:15 PM
Nice split by Ripon!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 01, 2008, 09:02:41 AM
I've heard that Oshkosh will be hosting the NCAA regional tournament and that it will played on North HS's field which is lit.  Having lights is a requirement.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tommiepitcher on May 01, 2008, 09:21:52 AM
i played for ust last year so i'm sure things have changed but you shouldn't take ripon for granted.  They had a guy throw a no-hitter last year in regionals against St. Olaf - A team that had a legitimate power and speed guy in Schmeising.  And, they had Stevens Point eliminated (And I think we all know how point ended up doing last year) until their coach made a bone head move and tried to save pitching in the 9th.  The were up 10-6 and gave up 5 runs, i believe 3 of them with 2 outs.  If Ripon returned anything of the team they had last year, they are pretty good.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 01, 2008, 09:40:05 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 01, 2008, 09:02:41 AM
I've heard that Oshkosh will be hosting the NCAA regional tournament and that it will played on North HS's field which is lit.  Having lights is a requirement.
You are correct.....  The Regional host sites came out a few months back (I think it was still during basketball season) and EJ Schneider Field will once again host the Regionals after a LONG hiatus. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on May 01, 2008, 09:46:49 AM
If Point is going to have any chance, they have to cut down on the errors. Can't give any team 4 or 5 outs in an inning. Solid defense, would go a long way, as well a timely hitting. Point had 13 hits in both games, should have been able to put up more than 4 runs.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on May 01, 2008, 01:20:48 PM
Apparently because of the weather forecast, the WW/Point series has been pushed back to 5/4 and 5/5
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on May 01, 2008, 01:52:58 PM
Quote from: Barber Greene on May 01, 2008, 01:20:48 PM
Apparently because of the weather forecast, the WW/Point series has been pushed back to 5/4 and 5/5
Glad to hear that, rumor was a trip to the dome. Forecast looks good for Sunday and Monday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 01, 2008, 02:52:04 PM
Quote from: szlongball on May 01, 2008, 09:46:49 AM
If Point is going to have any chance, they have to cut down on the errors. Can't give any team 4 or 5 outs in an inning. Solid defense, would go a long way, as well a timely hitting. Point had 13 hits in both games, should have been able to put up more than 4 runs.
I've noticed Bushong has been on and off the field lately, with Fritz moving to the IF. Good move if you ask me. Bushong can rake, but it's always been a coin flip in my mind whether he makes the plays on D. His errors come on the weirdest chances, at least against Oshkosh over the years.

If Coe can catch most games and someone else can play SS, Bushong at DH makes a lot of sense. I know he's not the only guy who makes errors in the league, but I was always sure Oshkosh would get at least 28 outs whenever Bushong was out there.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 01, 2008, 04:30:26 PM
Larsen also makes his share of errors at 3B.  Bushong is actually pretty solid at SS but you hit it on the head he has had some costly errors over the years.  I agree with Coe behind the plate.  He needs to be back there all the time from here on out so they can use the DH better. I would like to see Schlosser go back to 3B, Fritz to 2B, and have Larsen DH.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on May 01, 2008, 06:02:22 PM
Coe catching every game the rest of the year would be nuts. He missed all of last year because of the serious injury he received in Florida. While he is having a good year, the wear and tear of catching every game would not bode well for his knee.
If you look at the errors league wide, no one is fielding  very well. Could it have anything to do with the weather, the amount of games played because of the weather, new guys, or just sloppy play by everyone?
With Point losing so many guys to graduation, it nice to see the freshman getting playing time. It looks like they will be okay next year.
Also going to gues that if Coach Bloom knew yesterday that the WW games would be Sunday and Monday, I got to believe he would have pitched differently in game 2 against Ripon.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 02, 2008, 01:53:51 PM
Anyone know whether there's any truth that SPASH standout senior Pitcher/OF Cody Koback is going to Point next year?  I seen him play for Plover this past summer and he's an absolute stud who should definitely be playing D1.  From what I've heard he's had a bunch of D1 offers but may be staying here.  Question is will he pitch or play CF and replace Brandon Schiedler?  I am thinking with all the offense their losing to graduation they will need his bat in the lineup every day.  Outfield would look good with Surman in Left, Koback in Center, Spurney/Archambeau in right.  Assuming Arch would play First and Fritz SS.  Point will really need to either recruit a starting catcher or get a transfer.  Not sure that Bloom has the arm to be an effective catcher.  Thinking he will DH next year.  Doesn't appear Point will have a 3B or 2B either.  Hopefully Hemstead will be back and healthy to go with Nix, Delorit, and Williams.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on May 02, 2008, 02:36:08 PM
I would have to agree about catching position for Point. Hard to say how Bloom will recover from the fractured wrist(still may need surgery-time will tell). Steve Considine should get some playing time, so I would say he is still unproven. Several freshman are not seeing steady playing time, so they too are unproven.
Would be a nice addition if Kobuck(?) comes to Point. Arch played 1st base for the first ime in his career last year, so I don't think he would hurt the team at first. Also agree a healthy Hemstead, will solidify the starting rotation. Coach Bloom seems to do a pretty good job of recruiting so only time will tell what the 2009 Pointers will look like.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 02, 2008, 04:09:27 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 02, 2008, 01:53:51 PM
Anyone know whether there's any truth that SPASH standout senior Pitcher/OF Cody Koback is going to Point next year? 
As far as I know, he has not made a decision as of yet.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on May 02, 2008, 06:27:41 PM
Former UW-Stevens Point pitcher Jordan Zimmermann promoted to AA Harrisburg today. Will report to the team on Monday. With the Potomac Nationals, Jordan was 3-1 with a 1.66 era.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 03, 2008, 06:24:14 PM
With all the scheduled DH's being pushed back from Friday/Saturday to Sunday/Monday what kind of effect do you think it will have on WIAC Tournament next week?

The top teams like Whitewater, Oshkosh, and Stevens Point will have to weigh how much the regular season crown is worth.  I would guess all three teams will throw their #1 and #2 on Sunday, so that they could all come back on Friday with four days rest, since all three teams will play two games Friday regardless of whether they win or lose.

Teams like La Crosse, Platteville, and Superior have no margin of error as they need to win every game possible just to get into the tournament.  They can't plan ahead, which means that #1 seed MAY be even more valuable as you may be facing a depleted #4 seed.

Thoughts???
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 03, 2008, 07:07:54 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 03, 2008, 06:24:14 PM
With all the scheduled DH's being pushed back from Friday/Saturday to Sunday/Monday what kind of effect do you think it will have on WIAC Tournament next week?

The top teams like Whitewater, Oshkosh, and Stevens Point will have to weigh how much the regular season crown is worth.  I would guess all three teams will throw their #1 and #2 on Sunday, so that they could all come back on Friday with four days rest, since all three teams will play two games Friday regardless of whether they win or lose.

Teams like La Crosse, Platteville, and Superior have no margin of error as they need to win every game possible just to get into the tournament.  They can't plan ahead, which means that #1 seed MAY be even more valuable as you may be facing a depleted #4 seed.

Thoughts???
La Crosse already planned ahead by cancelling its DH against Lawrence at Fox Cities Stadium.
EDIT: I'm laying off the predictions for a while though. The horse I bet on today is now dead. That's enough of a sign for me.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 04, 2008, 04:33:52 PM
Whitewater knocks off Point in Game #1 of today's DH 12-10....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 04, 2008, 05:03:21 PM
Game 1: UWO 5, PV 1
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 04, 2008, 06:54:07 PM
Point lost the first game without Eric Fritz, Tim Schlosser, Stuart Larsen, and Ben Warwick.  Nothing like letting yourself, teammates, coaches, fans, and teammates down!!  I have to say this is the most upset I've been in years and am glad I didn't make the trip down there this weekend.  Sounds from talking to some people that Point easily should've won the first game regardless and may take the 2nd game.  All Point fans can hope is the suspended guys play tomorrow and they sweep.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 04, 2008, 07:06:21 PM
Quote from: tommiepitcher on May 01, 2008, 09:21:52 AM
If Ripon returned anything of the team they had last year, they are pretty good.
That is the problem......

Ripon needed to replace SIX First Team All MWC selections, which included the entire middle of the infield at C, SS, and 2B.  They also need to replace 2007 MWC Player of the Year Jordan Baitinger (who threw the no-hitter at Regionals) along with one of their other top pitchers Greg Basthemer.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 04, 2008, 07:30:34 PM
Well looks like ripon finally played how everyone has been waiting for all year. Stevens Point needs to something with their remaining games or might find themselves in Ripons position where they need the tourney championship to get in.

CSS won their 12th straight UMAC title today after sweeping Bethany Lutheran. Finish regular season 29-4 most likely will receive a pool B bid barring any catastrophe in their conference tourney.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 04, 2008, 08:12:46 PM
WIAC Standings (Through 5/4)
*Whitewater 18-4
*Oshkosh 17-5
*Stevens Point 16-6
La Crosse 10-12
Platteville 9-13
Superior 4-18
Stout 4-20

5/4 Results
La Crosse 5
Superior 2

La Crosse 8
Superior 3

Oshkosh 5
Platteville 1

Platteville 12
Oshkosh 6

Whitewater 12
Stevens Point 10

Stevens Point 14
Whitewater 6

-So things aren't really any more clear than before the day started, as all three of the top teams have a chance at a piece of the WIAC Regular Season Title, and both Platteville and La Crosse are still fighting for the last spot.

-If Whitewater wins ONE game tomorrow they clinch a share of the WIAC Regular Season Title.  If they win both, they win it outright.

-If Oshkosh sweeps Platteville, they could get a share of the title with one Whitewater loss, or win it outright with a Point sweep.

-If Point sweeps Whitewater, they could get a share of the title ONLY if Platteville beats Oshkosh one time tomorrow.

-If La Crosse sweeps Superior tomorrow, they get the #4 seed in the WIAC Tournament.  If they split, still get the #4 seed as long as Platteville doesn't sweep Oshkosh.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 04, 2008, 08:22:31 PM
Couple of things that crossed my mind.....

-When is the last time you have seen a UWO pitcher walk in three runs and allow another run to score on a wild pitch in an inning?  Perelwitz did it today in Platteville's five run 1st inning.  Ususally Lechnir will have someone else in before that....

-What I don't get is why Rayn Demmin didn't start Game #2 today for Oshkosh.  I figured it would be Hendricks and Demmin for sure today, since they would be likely to throw on Friday in the WIAC Tournament. 

Does this mean we may see Oshkosh start Rubens on Friday?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 04, 2008, 08:40:47 PM
Three or four Stevens Point players were suspended for today's double hitter because of an incident at their hotel Saturday night.  I'm not sure of the all the details but rumor has Hooters, hot women and alcohol involved.   Some of them were starters.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 04, 2008, 08:58:26 PM
Well I hope they actually sealed the deal because they blew winning a conference title over it.  Odds are they win both today with all their starters.  Now they will have to win the WIAC tournament just to get in regionals.  I've heard Point has a 24 hour rule before games with alcohol so I'm assuming that's why they were suspended.  Hot Hooter chicks in your Hotel room is priceless though.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 04, 2008, 10:13:49 PM
Hmm....  I figured I would be able to read who won the WIAC Softball Tournament Championship when I came on here tonight....  Guess not...  Must mean that Whitewater didn't win it, because otherwise we'd have heard from a couple of different posters..... ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on May 04, 2008, 10:15:17 PM
Now I know why the policeman was taken behind the left field fence in the WW/SP game today  :D...

However, the most entertaining portion of the Point-Whitewater nightcap was the gamesmanship by both sides after Pointers coach Pat Bloom was ejected in the top of the fourth inning after disputing a call that a Stevens Point runner had left second base early while trying to advance on a fly-out.

After being ejected, Bloom left the dugout and took a seat on the grass behind the leftfield fence. Whitewater coach John Vodenlich said that when he was ejected from a home game several years ago he was ordered to leave the stadium.


http://blogs.jsonline.com/statecolleges/archive/2008/05/04/pointers-lose-coach-gain-split.aspx
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 04, 2008, 10:37:44 PM
Leave home for five hours and come home to find out Platteville beat Oshkosh, Ripon got swept at home, Knox will host the MWC tourney, Bloom blew a gasket, some of the Point and Whitewater top pitchers got lit up,  and the Pointers turned into the Minnesota Vikings. It's like the Truman Show up in here. Some of that can't be real.

All sorts of WIAC and MWC drama, and Oshkosh wasn't even a part of the juiciest stuff this weekend ... seriously, how great do we have it with Midwest D-III baseball?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 05, 2008, 02:33:46 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 04, 2008, 08:40:47 PM
Three or four Stevens Point players were suspended for today's double hitter because of an incident at their hotel Saturday night.  I'm not sure of the all the details but rumor has Hooters, hot women and alcohol involved.   Some of them were starters.
You talking about the players or the women?
Sorry, there are too many bad jokes in my head right now. If I didn't write at least one, I couldn't live with myself.

LET'S GO POINTERS *clap clap clap*
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 05, 2008, 09:32:42 AM
ATTENTION

WHITEWATER did not win the conference softball tournament.  Oshkosh did.

Three WIAC teams received bids to play in the NCAA tournament.  WHITEWATER, Eau Claire and Oshkosh

That is all. 



I didn't think Bloom's confrontation with the base umpire was that bad.  He did follow him around a bit and was giving him an ear full but it didn't seem to warrant ejection.  Of course I have no idea just what he said.  What was just as funny was that after being asked to leave Bloom very slowly began walking around around the outfield fence taking the long, long way around.  I lost track of him in center field so I'm not sure where he ended up.   Maybe he sat in the bus with the suspended players. ;);) 

You have to give him credit for handling the situation like he did right before perhaps the most important series of his season and I suspect making the suspended players spend the afternoon sitting on the bus really drove home the message.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: balco on May 05, 2008, 02:07:15 PM
Any updates on the WW baseball games today so far?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 05, 2008, 02:12:12 PM
All I've heard is the Point suspended players are sitting on their bus without the windows open and it's 80 degrees outside.  It's one thing to suspend the guys which I totally agree with but to treat them like jail inmates because they got a little tail and had a few beers is wrong.  I think not getting to play towards a conference championship is a pretty big punishment in itself seeing 3 of the guys are seniors.  The game is on 106.5 and the internet but I cannot get it on my work computer.  An inning by inning update would be awesome.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 05, 2008, 03:47:18 PM
Here's what I got....

Oshkosh Leads Platteville 10-2 in the 8th inning

Whitewater leads Point 5-3 in the 6th inning

La Crosse leads Superior 2-1 in the 8th inning

So.... If everything holds:
La Crosse is the #4 seed
Stevens Point is the #3 seed

#1 and #2 still dependent on what happens in Game #2 in Whitewater and Platteville.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 05, 2008, 03:57:36 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 05, 2008, 03:47:18 PM
Here's what I got....

Oshkosh Leads Platteville 10-2 in the 8th inning

Whitewater leads Point 5-3 in the 6th inning

La Crosse leads Superior 2-1 in the 8th inning

So.... If everything holds:
La Crosse is the #4 seed
Stevens Point is the #3 seed

#1 and #2 still dependent on what happens in Game #2 in Whitewater and Platteville.

Nice updates
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 05, 2008, 04:39:06 PM
Points season is all but over after getting embarrassed 13-3 today in game 1.  Don't see them taking the conference tournament either without Zimmerman.  The suspended players really screwed the season for Point.  Winning 3 out of 4 they may have had a chance at a Pool C.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 05, 2008, 05:50:11 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 05, 2008, 04:39:06 PM
Points season is all but over after getting embarrassed 13-3 today in game 1.  Don't see them taking the conference tournament either without Zimmerman.  The suspended players really screwed the season for Point.  Winning 3 out of 4 they may have had a chance at a Pool C.

Looks like Stevens Point may have played their way out of a pool C bid
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on May 05, 2008, 05:51:16 PM
Never count any of those teams in the WIAC tourney out!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 05, 2008, 06:08:42 PM
To top it off their was a major collision in the outfield with Schiedler and Archambeau.  Schiedler may have a broken nose and Archambeau was hurt pretty bad and had to leave the game.  Either way Point is screwed with Larsen, Schlosser, and Fritz not seeing live pitching for over a week before the WIAC tourney.  I wouldn't be surprised to see Bloom not even play those guys on Friday. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 05, 2008, 08:32:53 PM
Well looks like Point will most likely have to beat UWW/Oshkosh 3 times in the tourney to make the regional after losing 3 out of 4 to UWW.

St. Olaf has to be pretty happy right now.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 05, 2008, 09:23:25 PM
For what it's worth the rumor around the ballpark was that Bloom had the team vote on whether to allow the suspended players to play today and they sat on the bus. 

Aaron Dott was tough in game one going all 8 innings allowing 6 hits and striking out 11.  He was supported by 14 hits including two home runs from Kevin Zalnis and single home runs by Billy Johnson and Joe Munn.  Zalnis was 4x5 with 5 RBI. 

Mike Jacobson got the win in game two going 5 innings.  Jason Hooper finished up in his longest stint since Flordia.  Tied 3-3 after the first inning the WARHAWKS scored 9 unanswered and despite a 4 run sixth inning by the Pointer remained in control.  Jordan Stine homered and Munn went 4X5 with 2 RBI.  One of the more interesting things happened when Munn fell to his knees after catching a flyball on the warning track in right field and then threw the ball to the diamond on the fly from his knees preventing the base runner from advancing from second to third.  

It's been an incredible year to be a WARHAWK GUY.  With this conference championship we've won all six of what could be considered the conference's feature sports (football, volleyball, men and women's basketball, softball and baseball).  I have to wonder when the last time that was done may have been.

The collison was nasty and everyone was glad to see both players stand and remain in the game afterward though as already noted Archambeau was substituted for at his next at bat.   I'm not sure who caught the fly but they did a remarkable job to hold on to it.

As long as the conference tournament is played at Stevens Point South you can't count them out.  Speaking of which, this will be the last year the conference tournament will be played in Wisconsin Rapids.  Next year it's scheduled for Oshkosh North on the high school field.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 05, 2008, 09:31:21 PM
Now that the WIAC Regular season is over, what are people's thoughts on the Pitcher of the Year and Position Player of the Year this season?

I think Jeremy Rubens locked up the Pitcher of the Year award today, improving to 9-1, (along with 7 saves) with an ERA just over 2.00.  When asked to start this year, he had 4 complete game victories in four starts, which included both Whitewater and Stevens Point.  (Pretty good percentage huh?  ;D)

As far as the Position Player of the Year, it's pretty hard to argue with the numbers that Doug Coe put up.  He is in the Top 3 in just about EVERY major offensive category.  

Anyone objections?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 05, 2008, 09:57:16 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 05, 2008, 09:31:21 PM
Now that the WIAC Regular season is over, what are people's thoughts on the Pitcher of the Year and Position Player of the Year this season?

I think Jeremy Rubens locked up the Pitcher of the Year award today, improving to 9-1, (along with 7 saves) with an ERA just over 2.00.  When asked to start this year, he had 4 complete game victories in four starts, which included both Whitewater and Stevens Point.  (Pretty good percentage huh?  ;D)

As far as the Position Player of the Year, it's pretty hard to argue with the numbers that Doug Coe put up.  He is in the Top 3 in just about EVERY major offensive category.  

Anyone objections?

I pretty sure its only conference stats that go towards the conference player and pitcher of the year so make sure you keep that in mind. With that said, you are probably right on with those choices
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 05, 2008, 10:12:49 PM
Quote from: BaseballFan on May 05, 2008, 09:57:16 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 05, 2008, 09:31:21 PM
Now that the WIAC Regular season is over, what are people's thoughts on the Pitcher of the Year and Position Player of the Year this season?

I think Jeremy Rubens locked up the Pitcher of the Year award today, improving to 9-1, (along with 7 saves) with an ERA just over 2.00.  When asked to start this year, he had 4 complete game victories in four starts, which included both Whitewater and Stevens Point.  (Pretty good percentage huh?  ;D)

As far as the Position Player of the Year, it's pretty hard to argue with the numbers that Doug Coe put up.  He is in the Top 3 in just about EVERY major offensive category.  

Anyone objections?
I pretty sure its only conference stats that go towards the conference player and pitcher of the year so make sure you keep that in mind. With that said, you are probably right on with those choices
Nope.... it's overall stats.  Take a look at the write-ups from previous seasons. 

For example, Seth Maier was the Position Player of the Year last season, and he had 7 HR's on the season in the write-up.  When you look at his final stats, it also shows 7 HR's.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 05, 2008, 10:26:06 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 05, 2008, 10:12:49 PM
Quote from: BaseballFan on May 05, 2008, 09:57:16 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 05, 2008, 09:31:21 PM
Now that the WIAC Regular season is over, what are people's thoughts on the Pitcher of the Year and Position Player of the Year this season?

I think Jeremy Rubens locked up the Pitcher of the Year award today, improving to 9-1, (along with 7 saves) with an ERA just over 2.00.  When asked to start this year, he had 4 complete game victories in four starts, which included both Whitewater and Stevens Point.  (Pretty good percentage huh?  ;D)

As far as the Position Player of the Year, it's pretty hard to argue with the numbers that Doug Coe put up.  He is in the Top 3 in just about EVERY major offensive category.  

Anyone objections?
I pretty sure its only conference stats that go towards the conference player and pitcher of the year so make sure you keep that in mind. With that said, you are probably right on with those choices
Nope.... it's overall stats.  Take a look at the write-ups from previous seasons. 

For example, Seth Maier was the Position Player of the Year last season, and he had 7 HR's on the season in the write-up.  When you look at his final stats, it also shows 7 HR's.

My mistake then!

Just know some conferences use only conference stats, which makes sense
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 05, 2008, 11:01:44 PM
Agree on Rubens and Coe. In fact, I don't ever recall a more clear-cut year for both position player and pitcher of the year. Maybe one or the other in some/most years, but off the top of my head I can't think of one. I'd be shocked if Coe and Rube were not chosen.

How about Point and Olaf? Any chance Point is in the new regional rankings over the Oles?

Also think it's clear that Whitewater will be No. 1. I think St. Thomas will be second, followed by Oshkosh, St. Olaf and St. Scholastica, although StO and CSS could be reversed without a gripe from me.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 05, 2008, 11:17:41 PM
I would bet it went
1. UWW
2. UST
3. UWO
4. CSS
5. STO Hasnt done enough to move past CSS or CSS hasnt done anything bad to be passed.

Norbert or Ripon will get the last spot, Point stuck at home watching. Point could throw a wrench into everything if they win the conference tourney then I would think Olaf wouldnt make it, another reason why I think they would be 5.

Another scenerio to think about: What if Point and Olaf both win conference tourney might be unlikely but may happen. CSS might be left out of the regional or if Oshkosh loses first 2 games they could be in that mix.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 05, 2008, 11:35:27 PM
Quote from: BaseballFan on May 05, 2008, 11:17:41 PM
I would bet it went
1. UWW
2. UST
3. UWO
4. CSS
5. STO Hasnt done enough to move past CSS or CSS hasnt done anything bad to be passed.

Norbert or Ripon will get the last spot, Point stuck at home watching. Point could throw a wrench into everything if they win the conference tourney then I would think Olaf wouldnt make it, another reason why I think they would be 5.

Another scenerio to think about: What if Point and Olaf both win conference tourney might be unlikely but may happen. CSS might be left out of the regional or if Oshkosh loses first 2 games they could be in that mix.
If that happens, I think UWO stays home. I highly doubt three WIAC teams get bids (I included a bit of trivia in the forthcoming blog about the MW conference tourneys: last time three WIAC teams got bids was 1998. The system has drastically changed in recent years, but still a relevant fact).

Whitewater would get a Pool C before Oshkosh (thanks, Platteville and Superior). I think Olaf would have to go 2-and-out as well for UWO to get a bid in that scenario.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on May 06, 2008, 01:45:26 AM
Congrats to WW for being WIAC Champs. It is obvious that Point did not put the best team on the field the last 2 days. Tourney time starts on Friday, so hopefully everyone is playing their best players. No one should be thowing their #4 pitcher with so much on the line. How will Point rebound from the events of the last 2 days? Seems like the downward spin started after the brawl in Oshkosh. Point could be limping into the playoffs, but you just never know. To all the Oshkosh fans, sorry but if Point doesn't win, I have to pull for Whitewater. Their fans treated the Pointer fans better, and can't forget about the brawl and losing Garrett Bloom for the rest of the season. Not to mention how the suspensions may have affected the team.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on May 06, 2008, 06:28:08 AM
It appears one of the suspended players was a freshman. I'm thinking if my team voted against me playing, I'm looking for a new team to play for next year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 06, 2008, 09:28:23 AM
The paper is kind of late to this story, but Duluth wrote about UW-Superior's Andre Berenguer (http://www.verizon.net/newsroom/portals/newsroom.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=newsroom_portal_page_mlb_article&_article=961913).

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 06, 2008, 09:51:39 AM
I can live with Coe and Rubens.  Our best challengers are Johnson (perhaps Prather) and Dominick but when you look at the numbers overall Coe and Rubens have the edge.   I think we'll have our share of all conference players and perhaps coach of the year.  

It's hard to say how the Pointer might react to this whole situation.   Assuming that the team was close before this happened it wouldn't surprise me to see them rally around it and look like a different group this weekend but if they weren't to begin with this isn't going to help matters.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 06, 2008, 11:58:07 AM
Quote from: janesvilleflash on May 06, 2008, 06:28:08 AM
It appears one of the suspended players was a freshman. I'm thinking if my team voted against me playing, I'm looking for a new team to play for next year.
If the team has rules and the players on the team support the enforcement and consequences of breaking those rules, that's a team I'd be proud to be a part of.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on May 06, 2008, 12:26:13 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on May 06, 2008, 11:58:07 AM
Quote from: janesvilleflash on May 06, 2008, 06:28:08 AM
It appears one of the suspended players was a freshman. I'm thinking if my team voted against me playing, I'm looking for a new team to play for next year.
If the team has rules and the players on the team support the enforcement and consequences of breaking those rules, that's a team I'd be proud to be a part of.

If there was a vote, that would seem that the coach left the door open for them to play. The guys must not be liked or respected by their team mates. I don't see how else you could take it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 06, 2008, 12:29:51 PM
I take it as the players had enough respect for the guys who didn't break the rules, to enforce punishment on the guys who did.  I'm sure the rule-breakers didn't like it, but then they shouldn't have broken the rules.  If a suspended player would like to transfer to a program with no accountability to your teammates, then by all means, please go.

Assuming team rules were broken, as a Point fan I'd be far more disappointed if they let them play.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: xyz123 on May 06, 2008, 12:43:24 PM
Agreed Just Bill.  If you have rules, you better follow them, or why have them?

This discussion came up with the wife last night and she was of the opinion that most coaches, given the situation, would find some excuse or way around any team rule to have their best players available for these big time games.  I think its extrememly impressive that they stuck with their team rules and enforced their suspensions. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on May 06, 2008, 01:26:24 PM
Maybe what I don't understand is that if the rule was that they couldn't play, why would you have a vote. Wouldn't it be cut and dried? Having a vote tells me the rule allowed for them to play, and the players said no. Maybe someone can explain it so even a dope like me can understand. I don't condone breaking or even bending rules, I just have never heard of rules being voted on before.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ballboy on May 06, 2008, 02:27:25 PM
I think the benefit of having a vote is that then they are directly disciplined by their teammates, which has more power and meaning than just having consequences of a rule. I do not believe that they are disliked or not respected, but rather that their teammates respect those who do follow the rules. I have a greater respect for Pointers coach now, as I am reminded that D3 athletics (and athletics in general) are not only about winning the game, but about creating an environment that helps young adults mature into successful people later in life.

In regards to the comment of xyz123, I agree with the wife that in many cases the coach would find an excuse, but those would primarily be in positions where the only goal for the team (and the coach) is to win (IMO). I am glad to see that the coach, program, and team were able to see that some things are more important than winning. And my hope is that those individuals learned a valuable lesson about accountability that undoubtedly will remain with them forever. I hope they accept the challenge to stay at that school, and work to earn the respect of their teammates, and their coach back (and I hope that their teammates and friends allow them the chance to earn that respect, and not just blame them for their season). Besides, you never know what is the one thing that may pull a team together in order to make a run to the big dance.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on May 06, 2008, 02:50:34 PM
Quote from: xyz123 on May 06, 2008, 12:43:24 PM
Agreed Just Bill.  If you have rules, you better follow them, or why have them?

This discussion came up with the wife last night and she was of the opinion that most coaches, given the situation, would find some excuse or way around any team rule to have their best players available for these big time games.  I think its extrememly impressive that they stuck with their team rules and enforced their suspensions. 
Your wife is awesome she hit the nail on the head, but the fact that Coach Bloom put the punishment in the players hand is a harsher penalty then if he just says "you're done for the weekend" peer disaproval is a great motivator.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on May 06, 2008, 03:19:34 PM
Former Pointer Jordan Zimmerman makes his AA debut tonight in Harrisburg, PA.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 06, 2008, 03:21:16 PM
Sounds like Bloom either got really lucky or had the votes (or the ears and minds of the leaders, who can influence the team) before the decision was passed to the team.

My question is, what would Bloom do had the players voted to allow them to play? What would that say about his authority or his team rules in general? I'm leaning toward he knew what the outcome of the vote would be. Like others said, it means more to be cast aside by teammates than your coach. Statement opportunity, statement made IMO.

That said, c'mon ... you can root for the Titans ;). There are some good folks who follow and play on that team.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on May 06, 2008, 03:39:57 PM
Quote from: OshDude on May 06, 2008, 03:21:16 PM
Sounds like Bloom either got really lucky or had the votes (or the ears and minds of the leaders, who can influence the team) before the decision was passed to the team.

My question is, what would Bloom do had the players voted to allow them to play? What would that say about his authority or his team rules in general? I'm leaning toward he knew what the outcome of the vote would be. Like others said, it means more to be cast aside by teammates than your coach. Statement opportunity, statement made IMO.

That said, c'mon ... you can root for the Titans ;). There are some good folks who follow and play on that team.
Sorry Oshdude, you seem like a great person, but it doesn't take away from the fact that Fadness got a three game suspension and Bloom is done for the year(as I would think the kid from Superior). But Good Luck anyway to Oshkosh. May the best team win and hope everyone plays clean.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 06, 2008, 04:25:04 PM
And if you play dirty, please do so with Hooters girls.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 06, 2008, 07:27:29 PM
Quote from: xyz123 on May 06, 2008, 12:43:24 PM
Agreed Just Bill.  If you have rules, you better follow them, or why have them?

This discussion came up with the wife last night and she was of the opinion that most coaches, given the situation, would find some excuse or way around any team rule to have their best players available for these big time games.  I think its extrememly impressive that they stuck with their team rules and enforced their suspensions. 

I would disagree with that but thats my own opinion hoping coaches would do that. I know I have benched my best player for acting out and I would like to think most coaches would do the same but just dont know if they would.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 06, 2008, 07:34:50 PM
Quote from: szlongball on May 06, 2008, 03:39:57 PM
Sorry Oshdude, you seem like a great person, but it doesn't take away from the fact that Fadness got a three game suspension and Bloom is done for the year(as I would think the kid from Superior).
Now in NO WAY am I trying to downplay the above incident, however some of you are making it sound like Bloom was this HUGE part of the Pointer team.  

He had a whopping four hits in 24 at-bats (good for a .167 BA) on the season, hadn't thrown out a base runner in six steal attempts, and for the most part started one out of every four games.  He was likely third on the depth chart behind Coe and Warwick and as the season winds down, his playing time would have probably been even more limited as coaches are more apt to put their top players out there on a more regular basis.

Now if this would have happened to Coe would it have been a bigger deal?  I hope not, however the loss would have been much more severe to the POinter's post-season chances.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on May 06, 2008, 11:45:29 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 06, 2008, 07:34:50 PM
Quote from: szlongball on May 06, 2008, 03:39:57 PM
Sorry Oshdude, you seem like a great person, but it doesn't take away from the fact that Fadness got a three game suspension and Bloom is done for the year(as I would think the kid from Superior).
Now in NO WAY am I trying to downplay the above incident, however some of you are making it sound like Bloom was this HUGE part of the Pointer team.  

He had a whopping four hits in 24 at-bats (good for a .167 BA) on the season, hadn't thrown out a base runner in six steal attempts, and for the most part started one out of every four games.  He was likely third on the depth chart behind Coe and Warwick and as the season winds down, his playing time would have probably been even more limited as coaches are more apt to put their top players out there on a more regular basis.

Now if this would have happened to Coe would it have been a bigger deal?  I hope not, however the loss would have been much more severe to the POinter's post-season chances.
Yes, Bloom was number 3 on the depth chart, but he was still a part of the team. And he probably wouldn't have seen much playing time. And because Superior isn't in the playoffs, I guess that makes it okay to take out players that aren't a huge part of the team. And before you think I am picking on you I'm not.  No one has the right to intentionally injure a player from the other team, I don't care if it is a starter or a 4th stringer. The fact is Fadness is a key player, and he gets off with a 3 game suspension. And if this happened to Coe, you can bet it would have been a HUGE deal.
side note to Oshdude-cute response.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 07, 2008, 09:42:36 AM
Quote from: szlongball on May 06, 2008, 11:45:29 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 06, 2008, 07:34:50 PM
Quote from: szlongball on May 06, 2008, 03:39:57 PM
Sorry Oshdude, you seem like a great person, but it doesn't take away from the fact that Fadness got a three game suspension and Bloom is done for the year(as I would think the kid from Superior).
Now in NO WAY am I trying to downplay the above incident, however some of you are making it sound like Bloom was this HUGE part of the Pointer team.  

He had a whopping four hits in 24 at-bats (good for a .167 BA) on the season, hadn't thrown out a base runner in six steal attempts, and for the most part started one out of every four games.  He was likely third on the depth chart behind Coe and Warwick and as the season winds down, his playing time would have probably been even more limited as coaches are more apt to put their top players out there on a more regular basis.

Now if this would have happened to Coe would it have been a bigger deal?  I hope not, however the loss would have been much more severe to the POinter's post-season chances.
Yes, Bloom was number 3 on the depth chart, but he was still a part of the team. And he probably wouldn't have seen much playing time. And because Superior isn't in the playoffs, I guess that makes it okay to take out players that aren't a huge part of the team. And before you think I am picking on you I'm not.  No one has the right to intentionally injure a player from the other team, I don't care if it is a starter or a 4th stringer. The fact is Fadness is a key player, and he gets off with a 3 game suspension. And if this happened to Coe, you can bet it would have been a HUGE deal.
Once again, please don't put words in my mouth.....

Anyway, I think it is out of line for anyone to say that Fadness' intent was to injure someone on either play.  If it was, my guess is only Fadness and those close to him would know. 

Who is to say that his intent wasn't to break up a double play against Superior?  (I wasn't there so I don't know the exact situation.)  How is it any different from a play at 2nd base?  NCAA rules state the runner needs to slide right to the base, (there is no "still reach the bag rule" like there is in MLB.)  I've seen some pretty vicious slides at 2nd base over the years, and people weren't calling "bloody murder."  The middle infielders know they need to get "clear" of the runner if they want to get a throw off.  Wouldn't the same go for a catcher at home?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 07, 2008, 09:51:56 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 06, 2008, 07:34:50 PM


Now if this would have happened to Coe would it have been a bigger deal?  


I would pay to see Fadness try and take Coe out like he did Bloom and the kid from Superior.  It's just possible he may have been the one to end up with a broken bone this time.   ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 07, 2008, 10:35:56 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 07, 2008, 09:51:56 AM
I would pay to see Fadness try and take Coe out like he did Bloom and the kid from Superior.  It's just possible he may have been the one to end up with a broken bone this time.   ;)
Just like Former Whitewater Coach Doug Henry would probably end up with a broken hand if he took a swing and connected with Doug Coe huh.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: StealinHome on May 07, 2008, 10:47:41 AM
I hear big Ken Kaiser is coming out of his forced retirement and will be umping in Rapids.  Any nonsense will result in body slams instead of ejections.   ;D ;)

May it be a civil tournament won on the field in a way that most all can get behind the team or teams that advance.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 07, 2008, 11:43:11 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 07, 2008, 10:35:56 AM
Just like Former Whitewater Coach Doug Henry would probably end up with a broken hand if he took a swing and connected with Doug Coe huh.....

Would you pay to see it?

Did you notice the ;), that means I was kidding.   How is the fighting, book keeping statistician anyway?  :D  ;)  I'm kidding again but I'll make it more obvious to you.

However Henry and Coe would certainly match up better than Fadness and Coe.  And clearly better than some book keeping, statiscian and Henry.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 07, 2008, 12:19:18 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 07, 2008, 11:43:11 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 07, 2008, 10:35:56 AM
Just like Former Whitewater Coach Doug Henry would probably end up with a broken hand if he took a swing and connected with Doug Coe huh.....
Would you pay to see it?

Did you notice the ;), that means I was kidding.   How is the fighting, book keeping statistician anyway?  :D  ;)  I'm kidding again but I'll make it more obvious to you.

However Henry and Coe would certainly match up better than Fadness and Coe.  And clearly better than some book keeping, statiscian and Henry. 
UWO's SID must be pretty quick to get from the pressbox to the field so quick, since he is the guy that does the book and keeps stats....

Anyway, I'd put my money on Coe over Henry, unless of course Henry grabs him from behind and gets a cheap shot on him....

I assumed you could tell I was kidding as well.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 07, 2008, 04:44:24 PM
I respect the decision coach Bloom made this past weekend not playing the 4 guys but does anyone have an update as to whether these guys will play Friday.  If not the game will be a **** show so I am hoping they are playing.  They will have a tough enough time beating a great team like Oshkosh the way it is.  I am assuming that they will be starting as Archambeau had a similar violation and had a 4 game suspension.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 07, 2008, 05:11:28 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 07, 2008, 04:44:24 PM
I respect the decision coach Bloom made this past weekend not playing the 4 guys but does anyone have an update as to whether these guys will play Friday.  If not the game will be a **** show so I am hoping they are playing.  They will have a tough enough time beating a great team like Oshkosh the way it is.   I am assuming that they will be starting as Archambeau had a similar violation and had a 4 game suspension.
No jinxes please. I'll have to counter that one because I'm a superstitious dude.

The Pointers always win the big ones. I have no idea how Oshkosh can beat a proven tourney team like Point. I hope underdog Oshkosh can make a game of it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 07, 2008, 05:22:20 PM
Quote from: OshDude on May 07, 2008, 05:11:28 PM

No jinxes please. I'll have to counter that one because I'm a superstitious dude.

The Pointers always win the big ones. I have no idea how Oshkosh can beat a proven tourney team like Point. I hope underdog Oshkosh can make a game of it.

Haha

Well Its hard to look past Point considering their playoff success the past few years

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 07, 2008, 05:49:37 PM
If Point has all their regulars starting including Schlosser, Fritz, and Larsen they have a great chance to win against Oshkosh.  Without those guys the entire game I have a better chance of winning the Power Ball.  You can't replace experience and talent of those guys.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 07, 2008, 06:59:32 PM
I'm curious to see who is gonna start for Oshkosh....  Point absolutley "lit up" Demmin in their one victory during the regular season, and I would assume UWO is going to use Rubens the same way they did in the regular season.  That would leave Hendricks, a guy Point has not seen yet who has been pitching pretty well as of late.

Who takes the mound for the Pointers?  My guess is Kempf, as he really hasn't thrown against UWO, except for two innings of mop up duty.

Regardless, Friday can't get here quick enough....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 07, 2008, 07:30:03 PM
It's unpredictable what Oshkosh will do with Ruebens.  He just pitched a complete game against Platteville on Monday 2nd game which didn't make much sense.  I would've guessed they would've thrown him on Sunday to give him more time to rest for Friday.  It's not going to matter who pitches if Point's not at full strength.  Thrun has thrown way too much against Oshkosh so they can't use him.  I'm guessing they would use Thrun against Whitewater if they win the 1rst game since they absolutely smoked the ball against Kempf and Nix.  I know this is crazy but I may start Lorenz against Oshkosh.  The guy is solid and could probably give them 5-6 solid innings.  Look at the guys ERA and his stuff.  He throws some filthy stuff.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on May 08, 2008, 07:15:02 AM
Here's an article mainly on UW-Whitewater baseball:

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=748380
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2008, 09:16:08 AM
Coach Bloom is "flummoxed."     ???

I don't know about you but I admit having to go to the dictionary to find out what that means. 

Stevens Point has won six of the ten conference tournaments and all three played in the Rapids.  I'd be more than surprised if the suspended players weren't back on the team.  It would seem the punishment they've already received would be sufficent.  If the team was close before I'd expect the fences to be mended, misdeeds forgiven and a team refocused on taking it's last shot.  After all while Bloom has shown that winning isn't everythng it is still pretty important in the minds of competitive athletes.  It isn't difficult to imagine a scenario in which the Point team would actually benefit from what has happened. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 08, 2008, 12:19:37 PM
Can Whitewater just show up this weekend and not play their best ball?  They already have a regional spot locked up as does Oshkosh.  The only way Point gets in is if they win and everyone who knows baseball knows the WIAC should get 3 in regionals.  Does anyone agree with me that this years Whitewater team is the best team in the WIAC in quite some time?  I have to give them an edge even over Point the past few seasons.  They have such a tough lineup and a lights out #1 in Dott and a pretty solid #2 in Dominick.  Look for them to place in the top 3 in Appleton.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2008, 12:38:14 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 08, 2008, 12:19:37 PM
Does anyone agree with me that this years Whitewater team is the best team in the WIAC in quite some time?  I have to give them an edge even over Point the past few seasons.  They have such a tough lineup and a lights out #1 in Dott and a pretty solid #2 in Dominick.  Look for them to place in the top 3 in Appleton.
I don't think I would go that far.... 

Remember Whitewater and Oshkosh split their four game set during the regular season.  Both Rubens (9) and Hendricks (7.1) went deep into the game for Oshkosh wins, and Demmin (8 IP) left his start with the lead before Whitewater scored three runs off of Rubens in the bottom of the 9th.

Dott (7 IP) dominated Oshkosh in his start, however Domininck only made it four innings, and Jacobson got hit hard late in his start.  Of course for this match-up to take place Friday, both Oshkosh and Whitewater need to win their first game, and that is not going to be easy.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 08, 2008, 01:02:42 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 08, 2008, 12:19:37 PM
Can Whitewater just show up this weekend and not play their best ball?  They already have a regional spot locked up as does Oshkosh.  The only way Point gets in is if they win and everyone who knows baseball knows the WIAC should get 3 in regionals.  Does anyone agree with me that this years Whitewater team is the best team in the WIAC in quite some time?  I have to give them an edge even over Point the past few seasons.  They have such a tough lineup and a lights out #1 in Dott and a pretty solid #2 in Dominick.  Look for them to place in the top 3 in Appleton.

If Oshkosh goes 2 and out, with STP winning the automatic bid, and if St Olaf gets the auto bid too Oshkosh could be staying home. Obviously all 3 of those things would happen but there is a possibility.

Depends on what you say is quite some time. 2005 had perhaps the 2 best teams in the nation. UWW won the national tournament and I thought if Point would of went they would of won it. UWW might have the best team in 3 years in the WIAC but I dont think they are as good as the UWW and STP teams in 2005.

UWW 45-7 Reinhard 12-0 Tomasiewicz 15-1
STP 38-11 Steve Wiczek 18HRs Chuck Brehm 14 HRs Ryan Jones 17HRs and a major leaguer in the making in Zimmerman

I wouldnt be already placing them in the top 3 at appleton already considering they havent even made it there yet. There will be 5 solid teams that will have something to say about that
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on May 08, 2008, 01:32:52 PM
Quote from: BaseballFan on May 08, 2008, 01:02:42 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 08, 2008, 12:19:37 PM
Can Whitewater just show up this weekend and not play their best ball?  They already have a regional spot locked up as does Oshkosh.  The only way Point gets in is if they win and everyone who knows baseball knows the WIAC should get 3 in regionals.  Does anyone agree with me that this years Whitewater team is the best team in the WIAC in quite some time?  I have to give them an edge even over Point the past few seasons.  They have such a tough lineup and a lights out #1 in Dott and a pretty solid #2 in Dominick.  Look for them to place in the top 3 in Appleton.

If Oshkosh goes 2 and out, with STP winning the automatic bid, and if St Olaf gets the auto bid too Oshkosh could be staying home. Obviously all 3 of those things would happen but there is a possibility.

Depends on what you say is quite some time. 2005 had perhaps the 2 best teams in the nation. UWW won the national tournament and I thought if Point would of went they would of won it. UWW might have the best team in 3 years in the WIAC but I dont think they are as good as the UWW and STP teams in 2005.

UWW 45-7 Reinhard 12-0 Tomasiewicz 15-1
STP 38-11 Steve Wiczek 18HRs Chuck Brehm 14 HRs Ryan Jones 17HRs and a major leaguer in the making in Zimmerman

I wouldnt be already placing them in the top 3 at appleton already considering they havent even made it there yet. There will be 5 solid teams that will have something to say about that
It very well could happen, but your logic is wrong. There can be more than 6 teams make the tournament. UWO will not be left out regardless. You would just see someone leave the midwest region for the central. The 500 mile rule would take affect and even CSS is eligible to move to the central according to the NCAA milage calculator, it is 491 miles from Rock Island Ill. (where the central is being held) to Duluth. I would think that the MWC champ and CSS would be the likely choice to move since I can't see the NCAA giving a single conference an oppurtunity to place 2 teams in the world series. Whoever would go would have an easier path to the series because as all of us know the Midwest Regional is the toughest path to the series.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2008, 02:05:14 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 08, 2008, 12:19:37 PM
Can Whitewater just show up this weekend and not play their best ball? 


That's rhetorical, right?   

No way, no how.  If we don't show up and play our best ball we'll be beaten.   As far as having a NCAA bid locked up I wouldn't be so sure.   We were left out as defending national champions with 30 wins in 2006 so until we either win the automatic bid or have an at large in hand I wouldn't do any chicken counting.   

This is a pretty decent team but I'd have to agree that the 2005 team was probably a better one.   I've been following the baseball program for decades and I'd have to say the 2005 team is best I've seen. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 08, 2008, 03:00:51 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2008, 02:05:14 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 08, 2008, 12:19:37 PM
Can Whitewater just show up this weekend and not play their best ball? 


That's rhetorical, right?   

No way, no how.  If we don't show up and play our best ball we'll be beaten.  As far as having a NCAA bid locked up I wouldn't be so sure.    We were left out as defending national champions with 30 wins in 2006 so until we either win the automatic bid or have an at large in hand I wouldn't do any chicken counting.   

This is a pretty decent team but I'd have to agree that the 2005 team was probably a better one.   I've been following the baseball program for decades and I'd have to say the 2005 team is best I've seen. 
Agreed. If anyone thinks their team has a bid locked up, I think you're wrong. Whitewater is in the best shape, but 2-and-out even puts WW at risk because there are scenarios where I think WW stays home. Ditto – even more so – for Oshkosh. Although the scenarios seem unlikely, there's a chance. Like BW wrote, Oshkosh and Whitewater have stayed home previous years in similar circumstances.

If La Crosse wins a game or more, especially the first Saturday elimination game (and they're very capable) if LAX is there, the scenarios come into play. Granted, a lot depends on St. Olaf as well.

If Point or La Crosse win this weekend, I think Oshkosh stays home, depending St. Olaf's results. If Whitewater wins it and UWO wins a game, I think Oshkosh is in.

Three teams are relatively safe in IMO: St. Thomas, WW and CSS. After the MWC adds one, it comes down to three teams (UWO, StO, UWSP) for two spots. As far as shipping MW teams, I think there are enough worthy Central teams to make that unlikely. And one of the three MW bubble teams will play itself out. It may become obvious which will be left out after this weekend, but one of UWO, StO or UWSP stays home IMO.

Of course we only have to wait a few days to find out, but if there's anyone relaxed over the safety of their team's bid, I wish I were you. In no way do I think Oshkosh has a bid wrapped up. If UWO wins a game, I'll feel safer.

As far as the best WIAC team in recent years, I'll take '05 Whitewater, and not only because the Hawks won the title. That team had everything. There were better '90s Oshkosh teams, but that WW team was awesome. I especially liked Teach, Gnatzig and Klaw. Gamers if there ever were gamers.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 08, 2008, 03:30:51 PM
Everyone is at risk, because you just don't what might happen nation-wide.  If there's a whole slew of upsets from Maine to Oregon, then every Pool C projection can be tossed out the window.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on May 08, 2008, 03:47:44 PM
New rankings say that USP is still the 5th best team in the region!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2008, 03:51:30 PM
Quote from: OshDude on May 08, 2008, 03:00:51 PM
As far as the best WIAC team in recent years, I'll take '05 Whitewater, and not only because the Hawks won the title. That team had everything. There were better '90s Oshkosh teams, but that WW team was awesome. I especially liked Teach, Gnatzig and Klaw. Gamers if there ever were gamers.
If I was going to go back to the 90's, I'd have a hard time overlooking the 1999 Oshkosh team (the infamous wood bat year.)  That team had six MLB draft picks, (five in 1999, which is still an NCAA Division III record, but starting 3B Jared Koutnik was drafted two years later) three of which were pitchers. 

They lost in the Regional championship 4-3 to an aluminum bat swinging St. Thomas team, who went on to finish as the National Runner-ups, losing to NC Wesleyan 1-0.  To this day, I still think if that team would have been swinging aluminum during the post-season, Oshkosh MAY have another National Championship in their trophy case. 

However, I guess we will never know.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 08, 2008, 03:56:08 PM
Quote from: BRONKO7 on May 08, 2008, 03:47:44 PM
New rankings say that USP is still the 5th best team in the region!
OWP and OOWP must be huge. Wonder if the extra win Olaf got yesterday does anything. Olaf's 20-6 has to be on the cusp.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 08, 2008, 04:31:02 PM
Will Bloom pull his head out and play his best team tomorrow or is he going to gift wrap a win for Oshkosh?  Here is what I would do If I were coaching but I'm not so it means nothing.
1.  Brad Archambeau RF
2.  Justin Bushong SS
3.  Brad Frank 1B
4.  Doug Coe C
5.  Brandon Schiedler CF
6.  Eric Fritz DH
7.  Jared Surman LF
8.  Tim Schlosser 2B
9.  Stewart Larsen 3B
Pitching-  Travis Kempf.  Some may argue Nix but you never know if he'll be in the strike zone.  Odds are Oshkosh will throw Ruebens so you can't walk guys and give up cheap runs.  Rather would see Kempf throw it over the plate and get rocked than lose because of walks and erros.  Thrun has pitched too much against Oshkosh already and would have to pitch against Whitewater if their able to pull off the upset.  You could also argue Hojnacki in left after his performance over the weekend and Surman struggling a bit.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 08, 2008, 04:35:59 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 08, 2008, 04:31:02 PM
Will Bloom pull his head out and play his best team tomorrow or is he going to gift wrap a win for Oshkosh?  ...
C'mon, man. I'm running out of counter-jinxes.
Point is the best team I have ever seen.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 08, 2008, 04:39:45 PM
Quote from: OshDude on May 08, 2008, 03:56:08 PM
Quote from: BRONKO7 on May 08, 2008, 03:47:44 PM
New rankings say that USP is still the 5th best team in the region!
OWP and OOWP must be huge. Wonder if the extra win Olaf got yesterday does anything. Olaf's 20-6 has to be on the cusp.

Could be that whoever advances the furthest in their tourney gets the last bid...its going to be interesting how this weekend goes and what teams get the phone call late sunday night!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 08, 2008, 07:39:49 PM
Predictions

Game 1  Whitewater 22  La Crosse 3 
Game 2  Oshkosh 13   Stevens Point 3
Game 3  Stevens Point  5  La Crosse 2  La Crosse Eliminated
Game 4  Whitewater 13  Oshkosh 8
Game 5  Oshkosh 9  Stevens Point 7  Point Eliminated
Game 6  Oshkosh 6  Whitewater 5
Championship  Whitewater 14  Oshkosh 11

MVP  Jordan Stine  Whitewater
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 08, 2008, 07:50:42 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 08, 2008, 07:39:49 PM
Predictions

Game 1  Whitewater 22  La Crosse 3 
Game 2  Oshkosh 13   Stevens Point 3
Game 3  Stevens Point  5  La Crosse 2  La Crosse Eliminated
Game 4  Whitewater 13  Oshkosh 8
Game 5  Oshkosh 9  Stevens Point 7  Point Eliminated
Game 6  Oshkosh 6  Whitewater 5
Championship  Whitewater 14  Oshkosh 11

MVP  Jordan Stine  Whitewater
Killin' me, dude.
Game 2: Point 2,129, Oshkosh -19.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2008, 09:46:54 AM
So has anyone thought that La Crosse may start Greg Gibson against Whitewater today?  He held the Warhawks to 4 runs in 8 innings in the Eagle's 9-8 regular season victory.  Why not see if he has their number again?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on May 09, 2008, 11:38:39 AM
Whitewater up 4-1 after 1 1/2.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2008, 11:41:05 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 09, 2008, 09:46:54 AM
So has anyone thought that La Crosse may start Greg Gibson against Whitewater today?  He held the Warhawks to 4 runs in 8 innings in the Eagle's 9-8 regular season victory.  Why not see if he has their number again?
Guess I can answer my own question, as Gibson is indeed starting today against the Warhawks.  La Crosse has taken an early 1-0 lead, as Storm Gram hits the first of what I'm sure will be many HR's in the tournament off of Whitewater's Adam Dominick.

Whitewater answers with four runs of their own in the bottom of the first on three singles, a HBP, an error, a SAC fly, and an error.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2008, 12:31:38 PM
It looks like La Crosse would rather be in a snowball fight than playing baseball today..... ;D

The Eagles have committed four errors through four innings, which have accounted for five unearned runs. 

Whitewater leads 8-3 after four complete innings.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Z71Warhawk on May 09, 2008, 02:01:36 PM
Thanks for the updates..
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 09, 2008, 02:20:36 PM
Appears from the box score that UWW is lucky to get the win. UWW was outhit 18-11 but LAC defense really gave the game away with 5 errors
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 09, 2008, 03:11:36 PM
Third time's the charm for Thrun? And Point's panty partiers are in the lineup.
Hendricks on the mound for UWO. I like the Hendricks move, BTW.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2008, 03:30:16 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 07, 2008, 06:59:32 PM
I'm curious to see who is gonna start for Oshkosh....  Point absolutley "lit up" Demmin in their one victory during the regular season, and I would assume UWO is going to use Rubens the same way they did in the regular season.  That would leave Hendricks, a guy Point has not seen yet who has been pitching pretty well as of late.

Who takes the mound for the Pointers?  My guess is Kempf, as he really hasn't thrown against UWO, except for two innings of mop up duty.

Regardless, Friday can't get here quick enough....

Quote from: OshDude on May 09, 2008, 03:11:36 PM
Third time's the charm for Thrun? And Point's panty partiers are in the lineup.
Hendricks on the mound for UWO. I like the Hendricks move, BTW.
Well I guess one out of two isn't so bad......
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2008, 03:31:41 PM
Coe with a 3-run HR to give Point an early 3-0 lead heading into the bottom of the third.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2008, 04:09:11 PM
Point up 5-0 heading into the bottom of the 5th....

Scheidler and Bushong added solo HR's in the Top of the 5th....

Thrun has given up just three hits and one BB through four ininngs....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 09, 2008, 04:15:08 PM
Been every half hour for me. It's 5-0, 5th inning.
Hendricks walking three dudes is unsettling. He usually pumps the zone. I guess Coe's bomb could have something to do with that. Shoulda hit him again, apparently.
The upside is Bushong hasn't committed an error yet. He or Stewie has at least one of them on the way.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2008, 04:53:39 PM
Looks like Hendricks is just going to eat some innings in a loss since UWO's offense has just been brutal today.....

Point leads 8-0 heading into the Top of the 8th....

Thrun has given up just five hits through 7 innings...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 09, 2008, 04:58:30 PM
Ugh. F'ing Point ;). Eh, at least Lilly beat Haren today. Not all is lost, I guess.
Ryno, Rube or young gun to start vs. LAX? I vote for Ryno with Rube against WW or SP (if LAX is willing to lose).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 09, 2008, 05:05:13 PM
I thought pitching Thrun was a good idea, not pitching Demmin bad idea but guess it doesnt matter when you cant score.

I could see them going with Demmin against LAX, but they cant afford to lose this game so I could see them using Rubens instead

Dott vs Kempf in the last game im guessing

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2008, 05:09:16 PM
Quote from: OshDude on May 09, 2008, 04:58:30 PM
Ugh. F'ing Point ;). Eh, at least Lilly beat Haren today. Not all is lost, I guess.
Ryno, Rube or young gun to start vs. LAX? I vote for Ryno with Rube against WW or SP (if LAX is willing to lose).
Depends if Lechnir thinks they need to just win a game to get a Pool C bid, or they need to win the whole thing.  If he thinks they need to win the whole thing, you may see Perlewitz or Matson, who both gave up three runs or less in seven innings in their starts against La Crosse during the regular season.  It should be interesting to say the least!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 09, 2008, 05:25:58 PM
That would be pretty gutsy to not throw one of their top 2. Im pretty sure Demmin and Rubens will pitch especially after how well LAX hit in their first game. You would look pretty stupid going 0-2 and not throwing your 2 studs.

As long as STP doesnt win the whole thing, I think 1 win for UWO gets them in.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 09, 2008, 05:31:33 PM
Quote from: BaseballFan on May 09, 2008, 05:25:58 PM
That would be pretty gutsy to not throw one of their top 2. Im pretty sure Demmin and Rubens will pitch especially after how well LAX hit in their first game. You would look pretty stupid going 0-2 and not throwing your 2 studs.

As long as STP doesnt win the whole thing, I think 1 win for UWO gets them in.
The last part has me the most concerned. There's something about the Pointers and postseason basebll.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2008, 05:34:15 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 07, 2008, 07:30:03 PM
Thrun has thrown way too much against Oshkosh so they can't use him.
Good thing Coach Bloom didn't listen to you on this one.....  Thrun goes out and gets a complete game victory giving up just five hits and stuffing the Oshkosh bats all day.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 09, 2008, 06:05:36 PM
Who would've thought Oshkosh would've gone up to bad and took some grade school cuts.  Fadness looked absoltely terrible today as did some of their other lefties.  How can you not start Reubens against Point with the success they've had?  Pretty questionable decision making on Lechnir's part.  Then to leave Hendricks in there when Point was rakin the way they were.  Thrun certainly was dealing today though but I am afraid Whitewater will have an easy time tonight with their lineup.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2008, 06:15:13 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 09, 2008, 06:05:36 PM
Who would've thought Oshkosh would've gone up to bad and took some grade school cuts.  Fadness looked absoltely terrible today as did some of their other lefties.  How can you not start Reubens against Point with the success they've had?  Pretty questionable decision making on Lechnir's part.  Then to leave Hendricks in there when Point was rakin the way they were.  Thrun certainly was dealing today though but I am afraid Whitewater will have an easy time tonight with their lineup.
I don't want to get in an argument with you, but honestly....

Why replace Hendricks in a tournament setting like they are in?  Since UWO's bats were brutal today and it looked like they were going to struggle to score, why wipe out an already thin pitching staff by going to your pen, especially when you know you have to win four games now to win the tournament.  Pretty logical if you ask me....  Let Hendricks take one for the team, and keep as many "bullets" as possible by not using the pen.

Secondly, take a look at Rubens three conference starts.  He has started the final game of all of those series so that he can be used in relief in previous games.  Why change things now?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2008, 06:23:17 PM
Oshkosh 6
La Crosse 1   Top 3rd

Demmin hits a Grand Slam with two outs in the 2nd inning.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 09, 2008, 06:27:22 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 09, 2008, 06:23:17 PM
Oshkosh 6
La Crosse 1   Top 3rd

Demmin hits a Grand Slam with two outs in the 2nd inning.....
Atta boy Bradley.
For a contrast to Rapids long ball, deep in the LEC tourney, there's a 0-0 game in 8th between Keene St. and ECSU. We don't usually get 0-0 games after the 1st inning of the early games.
Fun diversion for anyone interested.
http://livestats.prestosports.com/keene/bsb/baseball.html (http://livestats.prestosports.com/keene/bsb/baseball.html)

And Rockford/CUC is 1-1 in the 6th. I guess we're the only guerilla ballers to play in bandboxes at our tourney.
http://www.edgewoodcollegeeagles.com/livestats/baseball/xlive.htm (http://www.edgewoodcollegeeagles.com/livestats/baseball/xlive.htm)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2008, 06:36:49 PM
Quote from: OshDude on May 09, 2008, 06:27:22 PM
I guess we're the only guerilla ballers to play in bandboxes at our tourney.
Well it would still be pretty similar if it went back to the old way and the Regular Season champ hosted....  Whitewater isn't exactly a "pitchers park" either....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2008, 06:47:48 PM
Oshkosh 6
La Crosse 4   Top 4th

Michael Jack Schmidt with a 3-run HR in the bottom of the third inning....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2008, 07:02:59 PM
Oshkosh 7
La Crosse 4   Top 5th

Rubens enters in the Top of the 4th inning relieving Demmin
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on May 09, 2008, 07:27:26 PM
Thanks for the updates guys, keep them coming as long as you can.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 09, 2008, 07:29:38 PM
Quote from: janesvilleflash on May 09, 2008, 07:27:26 PM
Thanks for the updates guys, keep them coming as long as you can.
Just go here and hit refresh every 5 mins.
http://www.uwsa.edu/wiac/baseball/wiac3.htm (http://www.uwsa.edu/wiac/baseball/wiac3.htm)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2008, 09:42:20 PM
Hmmm......  Oshkosh gets five hits total in their first game against Stevens Point, and then has two seperate players go 5x6 in their second game against La Crosse.   :-\

Brad Demmin goes 5x6 with five runs scored, 6 RBI's, 2 doubles and a HR, while teammate Blake Berger goes 5x6 with one run scored, 5 RBI's, 2 doubles and a HR.

Jeremy Rubens shows dominating stuff once again, coming in in relief of Ryan Demmin and going six innings giving up just 1 run on six hits.  Rubens has now won or saved 17 of Oshkosh's 29 victories.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2008, 10:09:06 PM
Well, well, well......  What do we have here?  A pitchers duel?  Well I'll be....

Whitewater 1
Stevens Point 0    Top 5th

It would still be scoreless, but thank to a Stewart Larsen error, Whitewater is able to push across a run in the Top of the 4th inning on an RBI groundout from Mike Kenseth.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2008, 10:32:32 PM
Whitewater 2
Stevens Point 1    Bottom 6th

-Point's Brad Frank breaks up Whitewater's Aaron Dott's no hitter with one out in the Bottom of 5th inning on a solo HR. 

-Whitewater's Matt Schliewe had a solo HR of his own in the Top of the 5th inning.

-Point's Travis Kempf has FIVE hit-by-pitches through six innings, on FIVE different hitters.  Surprisingly, NONE of those extra runners have scored!!!!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 09, 2008, 10:37:34 PM
WHY IS DOTT STILL IN THERE? Three batters too many ... Frank RBI-single, Schlosser HR, Warwick HR. And now he's out ... Hooper on.

7-2 Point.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 09, 2008, 10:54:18 PM
Stewie Larson had a throwing error to make things worse. Stine just got hit in the elbow. Warning issued. Bloom arguing ...
7-5 Point, Stine on 1B, Prather on 2B after two-run double, none out.
Gotta love WIAC baseball.


Zielke gets out of it.
7-5 Point, bottom 7.
Tune into the webcast ... 106.5 from WW Web site.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 09, 2008, 11:34:05 PM
Point wins, 7-5. I don't feel any better about an Oshkosh bid than I did yesterday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2008, 11:39:23 PM
So what will the pitching match-up be tomorrow for Whitewater vs Oshkosh?  

I would think Whitewater would start either Jacobson or Munn.  As far as Oshkosh goes, I guess Perlewitz would probably get the start, but don't be surprised if Oshkosh uses about two or three other guys, including Matson (who threw 2.2 scoreless innings in relief against Whitewater during the regular season), Kuepper, and Leaman.

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 10, 2008, 12:24:41 AM
Reubens start and hopefully go 9 and Oshkosh wins and loses to Point in the title game.  Point gets automatic and Oshkosh and Whitewater still get regional bids with St. Olaf staying home.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 10, 2008, 12:34:17 AM
I also think Rube starts. Or maybe Ryno, then a quick hook with Rube should Ryno warrant one.

The WW radio guys said Rube and Jake were the probables. I'd prefer to see Randy Johnson, but with so many UWO lefty bats, running out LHPs against UWO makes sense. Plus, Jake is a gutty senior. Gotta give him a shot.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 10, 2008, 11:14:58 AM
Quote from: OshDude on May 09, 2008, 11:34:05 PM
Point wins, 7-5. I don't feel any better about an Oshkosh bid than I did yesterday.

Well I think they are still sitting ok, if Olaf gets 2 more wins could be a different story though
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 10, 2008, 10:48:55 PM
Well things couldn't have worked out better for WIAC fans as Point clinched the automatic berth and pretty much solidifed the WIAC getting 3 teams in the regional.  I have been researching and I would bet my savings and house that all 3 are in.  Any guesses on seeding or if Whitewater will not be in the Oshkosh regional?  Some observations from this weekends tournament are this:  If Nix is on for Point they can beat any team in D3.  Reason I make this statement is Whitewater had more success against Zimmerman last year than they did against Nix today and we all know where Zimmerman is.  I know this is going to probably piss Osh Dude off but I'm not trying to be a prick.  Oshkosh absolutely has to use Reubens as their #1 starter if they want to make the World Series.  If they can get another solid starter for next year they are going to have a great chance of winning the World Series.  Whitewater has a phenomenal offense along with pretty solid pitching.  They probably shouldn't have thrown Dominick for 145 pitches the other day especially when they have solid pitchers such as Hooper, Olsen, Rieck, and Jacobsen that can throw strikes off the bench.  I would say they are the best bet to advance to the World Series if they use their pitchers correctly.  I know I should just be happy that Point is in the regional but I can't stop thinking what if Point had Brandon Hemstead at 100% right now.  It seems every year Point has really bad luck and are 1 player away from having a chance.  Last year it was Coe and this year it is Hemstead.  Anyways, Good Luck to all WIAC teams that make it and as long as a WIAC team makes the Series I'm happy.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 11, 2008, 11:06:05 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 10, 2008, 10:48:55 PM
Well things couldn't have worked out better for WIAC fans as Point clinched the automatic berth and pretty much solidifed the WIAC getting 3 teams in the regional.  I have been researching and I would bet my savings and house that all 3 are in.  Any guesses on seeding or if Whitewater will not be in the Oshkosh regional?  Some observations from this weekends tournament are this:  If Nix is on for Point they can beat any team in D3.  Reason I make this statement is Whitewater had more success against Zimmerman last year than they did against Nix today and we all know where Zimmerman is.  I know this is going to probably piss Osh Dude off but I'm not trying to be a prick.  Oshkosh absolutely has to use Reubens as their #1 starter if they want to make the World Series.  If they can get another solid starter for next year they are going to have a great chance of winning the World Series.  Whitewater has a phenomenal offense along with pretty solid pitching.  They probably shouldn't have thrown Dominick for 145 pitches the other day especially when they have solid pitchers such as Hooper, Olsen, Rieck, and Jacobsen that can throw strikes off the bench.  I would say they are the best bet to advance to the World Series if they use their pitchers correctly.  I know I should just be happy that Point is in the regional but I can't stop thinking what if Point had Brandon Hemstead at 100% right now.  It seems every year Point has really bad luck and are 1 player away from having a chance.  Last year it was Coe and this year it is Hemstead.  Anyways, Good Luck to all WIAC teams that make it and as long as a WIAC team makes the Series I'm happy.

WIAC will most likely get 3 teams in and the team thats most in jeopardy is oshkosh rather than UWW (UWW regular season champ and advanced farther in tourney)

1. UWW
2. St. Thomas
3. Point
4. CSS
5. Oshkosh
6. Knox

that is assuming thomas beats olaf and somebody from the midwest doesnt get shipped out i.e. Knox or CSS (yea yea 500 rule but could happen)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: formman on May 11, 2008, 11:16:55 AM
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But look at what I found on my Monster job search under the keyword baseball this morning:

Head Baseball Coach/Development Officer

The University of Wisconsin-La Crosse seeks a head baseball coach for 25% academic-year appointment and development officer for UW-L Foundation for the remaining 75%. Coaching responsibilities include all areas of oversight of the program including but not limited to: on and off-campus recruiting; program organization and planning; coaching and training student-athletes; developing game plans; staff management; and, involvement in team fundraising projects. The development officer will work in annual gift fundraising at the Leadership Club level. Reports directly to the president of the UW-L Foundation. Responsibilities include: identification, cultivation, solicitation and stewardship of high level annual donors of unrestricted gifts. Prior professional fundraising experience at a 4-year college or university, computer literacy, analytical experience and abilities in financial planning required. Desired qualifications: master's degree, three years of prior coaching experience (some at college level), understanding of NCAA III mission and philosophy, and documented experience working in an institutional Foundation office. Sent letter of interest, current vita/resume, transcripts, and names and addresses of three current professional references to Larry Terry-Chair 09ATH01, UW-L, 1725 State St., 126 Mitchell Hall, La Crosse, WI 54601. Review of applications begins June 9, 2008 and continues until position is filled.

Any chance this is old news? I did not see anything on UW-LAX website about a resignation earlier in the year, etc.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 11, 2008, 01:13:23 PM
The specifics haven't been announced yet but the word around the Rapids was that WHITEWATER placed 8 players on the 20 player all conference team.  Coe and Stein were the finalists for position player of the year and Dominick and Ruebens for pitcher of the year.   Prather was announced as the Max Sprangler Scholar Athlete winner during the tournament.  WHITEWATER was proud to have five of the eight players nominated for the award.


Softball news: 
After three days all three WIAC schools remain alive.  WHITEWATER (to #1 ranked DePauw 6-5 in 8 innings) and Oshkosh (to EC 2-0) have one loss.  Eau Claire is undefeated.  Oshkosh will play St Thomas and the winner plays Eau Claire for the championship.  WHITEWATER meets Wartburg who they previously defeated 8-6 and that winner takes on DePauw for the championship.  The tournament is a double elimination format so it could extend to Monday before concluding.


Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 11, 2008, 04:52:19 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 11, 2008, 01:13:23 PM



Softball news: 
After three days all three WIAC schools remain alive.  WHITEWATER (to #1 ranked DePauw 6-5 in 8 innings) and Oshkosh (to EC 2-0) have one loss.  Eau Claire is undefeated.  Oshkosh will play St Thomas and the winner plays Eau Claire for the championship.  WHITEWATER meets Wartburg who they previously defeated 8-6 and that winner takes on DePauw for the championship.  The tournament is a double elimination format so it could extend to Monday before concluding.




Dont care sorry
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 11, 2008, 08:01:08 PM
Then knowing that Eau Claire has advanced to the softball World Series by beating  Oshkosh 6-0 would be meaningless to you, right?   And WHITEWATER beating Wartburg 7-3 to advance to the championship game with DePauw wouldn't interest you either. 

Ok, I understand, no problem.   ;D

Never mind that they beat DePauw 2-1 in 9 innings to force another game tomorrow. I guess the fourth time is a charm. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: voice on May 11, 2008, 08:30:02 PM
I care ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on May 11, 2008, 10:32:19 PM
Me too.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 11, 2008, 10:39:20 PM
Make that three of us, although UWO over EC would have made it even more interesting for me.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Z71Warhawk on May 12, 2008, 08:05:00 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 11, 2008, 08:01:08 PM
Then knowing that Eau Claire has advanced to the softball World Series by beating  Oshkosh 6-0 would be meaningless to you, right?   And WHITEWATER beating Wartburg 7-3 to advance to the championship game with DePauw wouldn't interest you either. 

Ok, I understand, no problem.   ;D

Never mind that they beat DePauw 2-1 in 9 innings to force another game tomorrow. I guess the fourth time is a charm. 

Thanks BW..........
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 12, 2008, 01:22:14 PM
Three WARHAWKS have been named to the Academic All American team.  Ben Prather and Tom Corcoran were first team selections and Billy Johnson was named to the second team.  Congrats guys. 

http://www.uwwsports.com/News/baseball/2008/5/12/baseball051208_Academic_All_America.asp?path=baseball
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 12, 2008, 02:20:28 PM
Only read if you care...or are bored...or just can't help yourself.  ;)

WARHAWKS punch their ticket to the softball world series by beating #1 ranked DePauw 6-2 in eight innings.   Trailing 2-1 a Lauren Cruz 7th inning home run tied the game and the WARHAWKS plated 4 runs in the 8th ignited by back to back doubles and finished with a 3-run home run from Amanda LeBeau.

WIAC gets two in the field of eight.   8)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 12, 2008, 04:06:47 PM
2 WIAC teams in the World Series is impressive.  Good Luck to both teams at the Series and hopefully we will see 2 WIAC teams for baseball.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 13, 2008, 02:27:42 AM
My all-WIAC first team while we wait for Wednesday. Tell me where I screwed up.

Jeremy Rubens, UWO (pitcher of the year)
Mike Thrun, Point
Adam Dominick, WW
Aaron Dott, WW
Travis Kempf, Point

Doug Coe, Point (player of the year)
Billy Johnson, WW
Brandon Scheidler, Point
Jordan Stine, WW
Brad Demmin, UWO
Kevin Zalnis, WW
Jeff Donovan, WW
Storm Gram, LAX
Nolan Fadness, UWO
Brad Frank, Point
Ben Prather, WW
Justin Bushong, Point
Kyle Kannenberg, UWO
Stew Larson, Point
Jason Fosler, UWO

There are a bunch of others who could easily make it, but I'll stick with these.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on May 13, 2008, 04:11:49 AM
Your list looks fine to me, but I would be surprised to see anyone who was suspended during the season make it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 13, 2008, 09:31:09 AM
I have a feeling Bennett will make it, even though his season may not "deserve" it.  Sometimes you will see a guy get the recognition because of his career numbers, even if his senior season wasn't that great.

Also, does Saufley from Superior make it as a Pitcher?  He was the Player of the Week twice this season, although he was just 1-3 with an ERA near 5.00 in WIAC play.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 13, 2008, 10:59:40 AM
I cant remember if the WIAC only does WIAC stats or season stats. But your list looks pretty good.

I might add Sean Cummings though from UWS
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on May 13, 2008, 02:13:03 PM
I dont know about others but as far as UWS guys a little birdie told me:

Sean Cummings -2B 1st Team
Hostrawser and Saufley -P Honorable Mention
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on May 13, 2008, 02:37:22 PM
Not to sound too bitter, because it really doesnt matter at all, but maybe a little love for my season?

4th in ERA, 3rd in OPP BA, 11th in K's...  and thats with some pretty unlucky games, Point and WW, off the top of my head there was probably about 6 IF hits in the Point game alone.

That being said I dont have a problem with any of the pitchers OshDude named being 1st teamers if thats how it pans out.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on May 13, 2008, 03:59:18 PM
45, you had a great year. Would be no big surprise to see your name on there.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 13, 2008, 04:22:27 PM
Quote from: janesvilleflash on May 13, 2008, 03:59:18 PM
45, you had a great year. Would be no big surprise to see your name on there.
If Slinger's not there, he had to be very close. I only saw him once, but he was sharp that day. Based on my questionable list of pitchers (and hitters for that matter), and if there are 12 HM players again this year, Demmin, Lange and Hendricks are probably there. Add Saufley and Hostrawser and that may be as deep as the pitchers go. The proverbial odd men out look like Bouvine and Benitz. "Pitchers" not named Greg Maddux or Tom Glavine never get recognition for their skills. Saufley/Hostrawser vs. Bouvine? Based on numbers and the mere one game I saw them pitch, I'd go with Bouvine.

Don't know why I didn't think about suspended players, but I think you're right about that. Not that Cummings doesn't deserve it anyway – he does, and he was one of the five or so that I tried to fit on my list – but take Kanny and Fadness off there and Cummings makes my first team. Maybe the same for the coaches?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 13, 2008, 09:04:27 PM
I don't know about Stewart Larsen for Point on the team either.  To me a guy has to be able to hit and field and he can't do much fielding.  The guy can hit but is very streaky.  Isn't there another 3B more deserving or maybe there's not?  1 positive thing about Larsen is the energy he brings to the team.  He basically got benched in the WIAC final and still was the first one out of the dugout after every inning and encouraging his teammates.  He's definitely a top notch teammate in that regard.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 13, 2008, 10:20:54 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 13, 2008, 09:04:27 PM
I don't know about Stewart Larsen for Point on the team either.  To me a guy has to be able to hit and field and he can't do much fielding.  The guy can hit but is very streaky.  Isn't there another 3B more deserving or maybe there's not?  1 positive thing about Larsen is the energy he brings to the team.  He basically got benched in the WIAC final and still was the first one out of the dugout after every inning and encouraging his teammates.  He's definitely a top notch teammate in that regard.
If you didn't know, the WIAC chooses the best hitters without regard to position.
Yeah, Larson is borderline. I sincerely like him though. He's caught a lot of crap from Oshkosh fans over the years, but I think the UWO fans all genuinely respect/like him. And his hotel slumber party probably hasn't hurt his rep as a fun guy to heckle.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 14, 2008, 01:43:23 PM
Jared Surman made 1rst team as an outfielder for Point but only got 1 at bat at the WIAC tournament.  Personally I think it's a joke that he's not in the lineup or at least used as a DH.  What more does the kid have to do?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 14, 2008, 01:55:19 PM
Quote from: OshDude on May 13, 2008, 02:27:42 AM
My all-WIAC first team while we wait for Wednesday. Tell me where I screwed up.

Jeremy Rubens, UWO (pitcher of the year)
Mike Thrun, Point
Adam Dominick, WW
Aaron Dott, WW

Travis Kempf, Point

Doug Coe, Point (player of the year)
Billy Johnson, WW
Brandon Scheidler, Point
Jordan Stine, WW
Brad Demmin, UWO
Kevin Zalnis, WW
Jeff Donovan, WW
Storm Gram, LAX
Nolan Fadness, UWO

Brad Frank, Point
Ben Prather, WW
Justin Bushong, Point
Kyle Kannenberg, UWO
Stew Larson, Point
Jason Fosler, UWO
Nice Work Oshdude!!!  All of the bolded guys made the All Conference team.  A little surprised at Dominick getting Pitcher of the Year over Rubens, although I am sure being a Senior didn't hurt Dominick's cause.

These were the guys you missed:
Ross Bennett-Platteville
Sean Cummings-Superior
Tom Corcoran-Whitewater
Joe Lange-Platteville
Jared Surman-Stevens Point

Three of the four Stevens Point guys you listed were Honorable Mention selections, with Larsen not receiving any mention.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 14, 2008, 05:18:08 PM
Linfield is broadcasting the UWSP/Linfield game:

http://secure.stretchinternet.com/demo/games.php?user=lin&o=cal_stamp&sd=1154415600

UWSP leads 1-0 in the 4th on a Brad Frank HR.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 14, 2008, 07:16:44 PM
Point takes step one in their quest for Appleton....

In the bottom of the tenth Point gets runners on second and third with one out following a sac bunt.  Linfield decides on an intentional walk to Schiedler to load the bases and set up the double play, even though it means facing Coe.  Coe responds with a RBI single to score the winning run. 

Point 2
Linfield 1   FINAL/10 innings

-Thrun goes 8.0+ solid innings, and Zielke comes in and gets out of two jams to get the win.

Point will now face the winner of Augustana/Wartburg tomorrow at 7:00 pm.

If you want to see some additional details, check the Midwest Regional thread.  I inadvertently posted updates over there on accident. :-[
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 14, 2008, 08:48:24 PM
I was surprised Linfield didn't throw their ace(Clark) but it really didn't matter and Point got very lucky to win.  They definitely pissed away some chances also but not like Linfield did.  I have to admit I thought it was over in the 9th. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 15, 2008, 01:58:25 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 14, 2008, 01:55:19 PM
Quote from: OshDude on May 13, 2008, 02:27:42 AM
My all-WIAC first team while we wait for Wednesday. Tell me where I screwed up.

Jeremy Rubens, UWO (pitcher of the year)
Mike Thrun, Point
Adam Dominick, WW
Aaron Dott, WW

Travis Kempf, Point

Doug Coe, Point (player of the year)
Billy Johnson, WW
Brandon Scheidler, Point
Jordan Stine, WW
Brad Demmin, UWO
Kevin Zalnis, WW
Jeff Donovan, WW
Storm Gram, LAX
Nolan Fadness, UWO

Brad Frank, Point
Ben Prather, WW
Justin Bushong, Point
Kyle Kannenberg, UWO
Stew Larson, Point
Jason Fosler, UWO
Nice Work Oshdude!!!  All of the bolded guys made the All Conference team.  A little surprised at Dominick getting Pitcher of the Year over Rubens, although I am sure being a Senior didn't hurt Dominick's cause.

These were the guys you missed:
Ross Bennett-Platteville
Sean Cummings-Superior
Tom Corcoran-Whitewater
Joe Lange-Platteville
Jared Surman-Stevens Point

Three of the four Stevens Point guys you listed were Honorable Mention selections, with Larsen not receiving any mention.
Ah, I just hit all the layups. I did better last year; I think I only missed one of 20.
Had a feeling I didn't get the 5th pitcher right ... so many logical options.

I can see Surman there, but he produced (a lot) in far fewer ABs than the other WIAC leaders. Prorate his numbers and I'd put him on there. Thought he was HM as it stands IMO.

No problems from me with the rest. Surprised at no Bushong, though. Judging from the ones I got wrong, apparently I'm a bigger fan of the Pointers than the coaches are. With all due respect, that's saying something.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 16, 2008, 04:26:13 PM
No third straight WS trip for UWSP.  Webster eliminates the Pointers today 9-7.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: mr_b on May 16, 2008, 04:52:01 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on May 16, 2008, 04:26:13 PM
No third straight WS trip for UWSP.  Webster eliminates the Pointers today 9-7.
Nice recovery for Webster after starting the season 0-7.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: KitchenSink on May 16, 2008, 04:52:49 PM
Bummer.  But that kid learned how to play some serious ball on that TV show...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: buf on May 18, 2008, 10:31:40 PM
Softball update:

EC is 3-0 so far and is in the championship game tomorrow after defeating the #1 ranked team today.

UWW lost its first game, but has since won 3 in a row.  If they win in the first game tomorrow, it will be an all-WIAC final.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on May 19, 2008, 10:07:10 AM
Quote from: Slinger45 on May 13, 2008, 02:37:22 PM
Not to sound too bitter, because it really doesnt matter at all, but maybe a little love for my season?

4th in ERA, 3rd in OPP BA, 11th in K's...  and thats with some pretty unlucky games, Point and WW, off the top of my head there was probably about 6 IF hits in the Point game alone.

That being said I dont have a problem with any of the pitchers OshDude named being 1st teamers if thats how it pans out.

Wow, how about being a little humble. Also you need to take into account that you are not the best pitcher on your own staff. When you come in where UWS did in the standings you're not going to get the numbers on the all-conf team that might be deserving. Be happy with what your TEAM accomplished this season which should be any players focus. But give it a rest on tooting your own horn for a while, it's not fair to your teammates. If any award should go to UWS it should be to Coach Morgan for turning that program into something players such as yourself should be proud of. He is making great strides and hope to see him make another one next year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: buf on May 19, 2008, 01:26:28 PM
Softball update:

UWW hit a 2 out, 2 run homerun in the bottom of the 6th to defeat the #1 ranked team, 2-1, and thus advance to the national championship game against UWEC.

Ithaca, Muskingum, and Louisana college have all been swept by the two WIAC teams.  These teams were a combined 3-0 against other opponents in the championships.

Should be a good game between UWEC and UWW.  UWW needs to win today and tomorrow.  UWEC needs to win just one of two.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on May 19, 2008, 04:34:08 PM
Quote from: buf on May 19, 2008, 01:26:28 PM
Should be a good game between UWEC and UWW.  UWW needs to win today and tomorrow.  UWEC needs to win just one of two.

So, if EC wins today, they can play all the subs tomorrow?  ??? ;D :D :P
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: buf on May 19, 2008, 04:44:09 PM
Quote from: Old School.... (Tom Doebler) on May 19, 2008, 04:34:08 PM
Quote from: buf on May 19, 2008, 01:26:28 PM
Should be a good game between UWEC and UWW.  UWW needs to win today and tomorrow.  UWEC needs to win just one of two.

So, if EC wins today, they can play all the subs tomorrow?  ??? ;D :D :P

I guess so ;D.  Actually they just won in extra innings, 4-3 in 9 innings, over UWW.  Jahnke hit a 2-out solo HR.  In the bottom of the 7th, with EC down 3-1 and with 2 out and nobody on base, EC rallied to tie the game and send it into the extra frames.

Congrats to EC on their national championship!

Congrats to UWW on a great season.

And finally congrats to the WIAC in fielding 2 teams in the national championship.  Its the first time in softball that 2 conference teams have met in the championship game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 19, 2008, 04:58:18 PM
Quote from: buf on May 19, 2008, 04:44:09 PM
And finally congrats to the WIAC in fielding 2 teams in the national championship.  Its the first time in softball that 2 conference teams have met in the championship game.

I wonder how often that happens in ANY D-III sport.  It's probably happened in ice hockey, but there's a lot fewer schools playing hockey.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 19, 2008, 05:08:58 PM
Darn, we had it but a fielding error sent the game to extra innings and EC did to us what we've done to so many others this season, hit a home run. 

Congrats Eau Claire and WARHAWKS.  You've made the WIAC and your fans proud.  It would have been great to force a game 15 but I guess national runner up isn't a bad thing to settle for.

The WARHAWKS conclude the season with a team and conference record 68 home runs.  The NCAA record is 72 held by St Thomas.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on May 19, 2008, 10:51:29 PM
Stevens Point beat River Falls in the '93 Championship in St. Thomas, MN, I believe.  I just know it was in Minnesota because we went to the Mall of America!

I'm guessing Stevens Point beat St. Thomas in the 2nd semi final.  River Falls beat Plattsburgh, I think.  The funny thing was, River Falls was just 14-13 or something like that and Plattsburgh had a great record coming in.  Point beat River Falls in OT, still have it on tape!

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on May 19, 2008, 11:12:50 PM
from the WIAC site:

The matchup between the Blugolds and Warhawks represented the third time in WIAC history two schools have met for the national championship - in any sport.  The previous national title meetings were in men's ice hockey with UW-Stevens Point beating UW-River Falls in 1993 and the UW-River Falls upending UW-Superior in 1994.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: batboy on May 21, 2008, 09:13:54 AM
Just want to say congrats to Doug Coe for being named to the D3baseball.com 2nd team All-America Team.  Kind of shocked that he is the only player from the WIAC to get any all-american honors.  I thought for sure Jeremy Rubens from Oshkosh deserved HM to say the least, he had some unbelievable numbers, maybe if he would have pitched at all in regionals he would've.  Unless he had a sore arm, he should've started against St. Thomas.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 21, 2008, 09:29:59 AM
Congrats to Coe and good luck to him.   Though I have to admit I'm glad to see him graduate.  ;D

We all wondered why Rubens wasn't used.  If he was available it just seemed odd not to use him in game two.   If he wasn't you have to wonder what impact the way he was used in the regular season may have played in it.   I don't profess to know and I'm not second guessing anyone but I admit to being curious.  ;)
Title: conduct
Post by: bighitter on May 24, 2008, 10:16:25 AM
now that the season is over for the rest of the wiac teams, i'm supposed to cheer for the warhawks at the world series and hope that they represent the conference well. after the way my wife and i were treated at whitewater this year,  that  will be difficult to do. a comment from this old coach to all wiac fans, go to the games to cheer for your team. don't go there to harass and insult the other teams players. these are college players not professionals and their family is there to watch them. the ww players showed some class in the wiac tourney when they returned to the field to shake hands after a loss when their coach refused to. coach vodenlich, there is something called "good sportsmanship", you might have heard of it. i hope that in the future the ww athletic director will attend more games and observe the conduct of his coach and some of the fans. maybe then there will no longer be a need for the peace officers at all ww home games. wiac baseball is the best and the warhawks have a great team of fine young men. i wish them good luck in the world series.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Z71Warhawk on May 24, 2008, 11:23:35 AM
I was at the Linfield V UW-W and the group of guys I was around tipped their hats to the Linfield team.... They played great and congrats to them.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 25, 2008, 09:51:59 PM
What are you talking about Bighitter, I personally witnessed Coach Vodenlich shake Coach Bloom's hand following the WIAC tournament loss.  It happened right in front of me.   Get your facts straight before you go around calling someone's sportsmanship to task.  I can tell you some story about fans from other programs if you think something is unique to WW.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: batboy on May 26, 2008, 05:02:22 PM
there were only two players that were waiting to shake stevens points hands after the WIAC tourney championship game.  coach vodenlich was not going to shake hands, but the boos and embarassment got to him and he finally gave in and pointed his players out to the home plate area to shook points hands.  WW has been known for doing this crap, it happened in the WIAC tourney in 2005 against SP also.  Their coach has a chip on his shoulder and thinks he is too good to shake hands after some games.  He shouldn't have to be booed and practically forced to do it, it should be automatic.  Because of this behavior by him, I know for a fact that some recruits have chose not to go there.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on May 26, 2008, 08:05:20 PM
Congrats to Whitewater for the outstanding job of representing the WIAC in the World Series. As I said before they were the right team to represent the WIAC this year. Zalnis had an amazing series and the rest of the Warhawks gave everthing they had, enjoy your summer and will look forward to seeing you next spring.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 27, 2008, 09:31:47 AM
Yes it's true.  It did take us roughly 30 seconds or so to assemble following the Point loss and Point fans did boo us for not lining up quickly enough for them.   But if you think it was embarassment you're giving yourselves far too much credit.    I have seen Voldenlich shake hands after games countless number of times and the assertion by bighitter that he failed to do so following the game is absolutely untrue.

One thing I know for a fact is that with two 40(+) win seasons, four conference championships, two national third place finishes and a national championship in the five years Voldenlich has been the head coach at WW  he is doing pretty well with the recruits he does get. 

Thanks sz, we did our best but losing on day one and having to come back through the loser's bracket got the better of us.   Enjoy your summer.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bighitter on May 28, 2008, 11:11:13 PM
Always happy to see a WIAC team do well each year and this year it was WW's turn to represent the conference in the world series and they did a great job. Congrats to the WW players on a great season. Some already solid teams returning next year with many fine recruits that I have heard about early. So, looks like another great year coming for the conference and I'm looking forward to it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hh131 on May 29, 2008, 10:26:54 AM
Speaking of recruits.....does anyone know of any WIAC recruits?  It's always fun watching future WIAC players during the current WIAA tourney.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: formman on May 29, 2008, 07:54:17 PM
Being from MN I can tell you that there are a number of parents and players that are starting to hear about the WIAC.

With the increased costs of MIAC schools the UW system seems to be a really good deal. I know that this year almost half of the starters for La Crosse were MN kids. I have not checked out Stout.

Superior gets Mpls Washburn H.S. best player next year.
UWW has one of the better players in the past few years from Mpls Southwest.
Title: WIAC Next Year
Post by: ShineTime on May 29, 2008, 09:28:23 PM
I think it's pretty much a given that Oshkosh and Whitewater will battle for the WIAC title and both teams will have good chances at winning the world series.  I would have to give the edge to Oshkosh next year but I think a key for them will be making Rubens a starter.  Point should still be top 4 but I don't think they will be a contender for the title or be a factor come regionals.  Can someone give a prediction for each teams lineup come next Spring or talk about any possible transfers/recruits each school may be getting?  I think Superior is actually going to finish top 4 next year based on what they have returning.

I will take a stab at Points lineup but am probably way off the mark.
1.  Eric Fritz  SS
2.  Brad Archambeau  1B
3.  Sam Spurney  RF
4.  Jared Surman LF
5.  Cody Koback  CF
6.  Aaron Heiden 3B
7.  Garrett Bloom DH
8.  Consadine  C
9.  Matt Johnson/ Seth McClullen 2B

Pitching staff should be 1. Nix 2. Delorit 3. Hemstead(If Healthy) 4. Williams.  Zielke should be a pretty dominant closer again.  Hoeschele, Kouba, and Lorenz will all hopefully improve.  If anyone has heard of any transfers or big time recruits to Point can you please post?  I am just guessing Koback is going to Point but am not 100% sure.  I think Point will have a lot of holes next year unless they have an outstanding recruiting class.  They will definitely need some new guys that can rake.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 29, 2008, 11:14:20 PM
I disagree on Rubens. I think Oshkosh used him very effectively this season. You can either run a guy out there once a week or use him in spots nearly every game. I'll take the latter. Plus, besides regionals Rubens always got the big starts as well. I'll take that scenario every time. In fact, I'm surprised more teams do not use their top Ps like Lechnir does. It's been successful the last two years with Gerl and Rubens, who expanded on Gerl's role to include the biggest starts.

With so many returners, I have no idea what the UWO lineup will be. There will be a lot of competition, that's for sure. UWO adds another Jirschele, and I'm sure a few other nice recruits, and returns a healthy Mickey Fadness. That hitting depth will be a welcome change after UWO struggled with the bats at the end of the year.

Next year I hope the WIAC moves to a slow-pitch softball lineup with 10 batters. Have not been able to say that at UWO in a while.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on May 30, 2008, 01:11:15 AM
Oshdude
   Got to disagree about the use of Ruebens like he was used this year. For whatever reason he was unavailable for the regional tournament. I think having him available would have made a difference for Oshkosh. Neither Gerl nor Ruebens were a factor in helping Oshkosh get to the promised land. I would rather have 4 solid pitchers and a relief specialist as opposed to a guy that gets run out to pitch all the time. It looks good for making all conference, etc. But you want to win at the end of the season when it counts. Doesn't do a lot of good if he is great throughout the regular season and is unable to pitch when you really need him at tournament time. So I will say that using him like Lechnir did was a big mistake. He is very talented and I would hate to see something go wrong and end a possible great career at Oshkosh. Whitewater had the right idea and they finished 3rd in the nation. Point had the potential but not the drive that it needed. That's just my thought on the subject though.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 30, 2008, 05:32:22 PM
Quote from: szlongball on May 30, 2008, 01:11:15 AM
Oshdude
   Got to disagree about the use of Ruebens like he was used this year. For whatever reason he was unavailable for the regional tournament. I think having him available would have made a difference for Oshkosh. Neither Gerl nor Ruebens were a factor in helping Oshkosh get to the promised land. I would rather have 4 solid pitchers and a relief specialist as opposed to a guy that gets run out to pitch all the time. It looks good for making all conference, etc. But you want to win at the end of the season when it counts. Doesn't do a lot of good if he is great throughout the regular season and is unable to pitch when you really need him at tournament time. So I will say that using him like Lechnir did was a big mistake. He is very talented and I would hate to see something go wrong and end a possible great career at Oshkosh. Whitewater had the right idea and they finished 3rd in the nation. Point had the potential but not the drive that it needed. That's just my thought on the subject though.

Your reasoning is short-sighted. Oshkosh would not have won the regional with a win over St. Thomas or Carthage. The gamble was to get through UST with a committee (if needed) and have a mismatch with Rube in the next game. It obviously didn't work and the result was 0-2, but in hindsight that UST game was lost on a check-swing blooper, a 10-hopper and Lonnie Robinson. Would Rube have shut out UST, like would have been necessary? Maybe, but I doubt it. The regional was probably lost after the CC game. Hard to get through a tourney after starting 0-1. But after that loss, do you try to map out a strategy to win the whole thing or try to get one win? I agree that the winning strategy was to save Rube and hope for the best against UST. Burning Rube by throwing him against Robinson is the same as conceding the regional IMO.

Whitewater did well because it had better pitching and better hitting than UWO (and almost every other team, for that matter). UWO got one bad inning from Ryno thus a loss, a well-pitched game from a committee but a loss to a sharper Robinson and nearly zero hitting in either game. If UWO wins either of those games, Rube throws in a possible mismatch in Game 3 (4-6 IP) and is in the consolation driver's seat with Rube available the rest of the way. That's how UWO had to play it to win. After that loss in the opener, it was boom or bust. UWO went bust, but I understand the gamble.

And getting to the promised land had more to do with Gerl and Rubens. Suggesting that how they were used was the reason behind not reaching the finals is not fair. They were a huge part in getting to where UWO ended. Oshkosh just wasn't good enough to get to the finals. Placing the blame on how Rubens was used doesn't make any sense. Take a step back from the final UWO overall team result and tell me how Lechnir used Rubens over the course of the season was anything short of genius. Then tell me how many games you think UWO would have won in using Rube as a starter for more than the biggest games of the year, which he did start and did win most of them.

There's a good chance that you will never see the reasoning my way, but try. Using Rube nearly every game is nontraditional and very effective if you give it a chance.

What does the bolded part mean?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: supermiac on May 30, 2008, 05:39:25 PM
Hm... maybe they should have used their ace against Carthage then...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 30, 2008, 05:52:39 PM
Quote from: supermiac on May 30, 2008, 05:39:25 PM
Hm... maybe they should have used their ace against Carthage then...

Lol ... like I wrote, I probably won't convince anyone ...

Demmin was their "ace" starter. Having Acevado face a LHP makes sense, no? Point being, if Ryno couldn't beat CC (his best matchup) UWO wasn't going to win the regional. Ryno didn't. UWO didn't. Burning Rube in one game, whether it be against Husing or Robinson, probably was not a good idea. I think people are under the impression that UWO had four awesome, consistent SPs.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on May 30, 2008, 07:01:52 PM
Have to agree with Oshdude on this one. At some point the guys that pitched that weren't Rueben, would have had to. I believe Lechnir thought that they were going to out score UST even with L Ron pitching. If that game is a close situation I am 1000% sure Ruebens would have been on the mound. And then been able to pitch again later in the tourney. Lechnir wasn't hoping for a miracle he was hoping for guys to get through the line up a time or two and hopefully have a chance to win with Ruebens and still be able to use him.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dukes on May 30, 2008, 08:04:24 PM
In my opinion UWO should have taken a different approach to the tournament in general. The way it was set up, if they lose, they have to play the winner of the 1v6 matchup. Being they didnt have 4 quality pitchers who could win a regional game, so you say, they should have went with a committee in the first game. If you win, you still have your top 2 to get you to the championship. If you lose, you have your top guys to face St. Thomas as it was. They had a good lineup because realistically even if they would lose the first game, they only had to win 3 to win the tourney.

And I agree with the fact that you play to win the tourney, not just a game here or there. Look at the way that St. Scholastica used their pitching staff. Throw one of your top 2 against UWW, lost. Throw about you number 5 or 6 against the number 6 team and pretty much pitch by committee. If they lost that, you would be saying the same thing that they didnt use a major league prospect in the tourney, but they played to win.

As far as the way he was used all year, that is a bit debatable. There are pros in cons to it both ways. On the one hand, yes, Ruebens did get them many wins in big situations throughout the year. On the other hand, perhaps it would have been more beneficial if someone else could have proven they could get a bit win during the year, build some character and confidence, and then be able to step up and win a regional. If whenever you have a big game, or big situation, your top dog pitches so you get the win, then what is the attitude when he is not pitching?


Quote from: szlongball on May 30, 2008, 01:11:15 AM
I would hate to see something go wrong and end a possible great career at Oshkosh.

And I am just assuming, but I think the point that is made by this is injury. You train your body a certain way, to be able to endure a certain type of stress. The way it sounds he was used goes against some of that logic. I was the same way...I could throw every day if it was a big game, but it is a coaches responsibility to be aware of that. Just because he seems like he has a rubber arm, doesnt mean he does...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on May 30, 2008, 09:10:30 PM
Doug Coe saw some action with the Windy City Thunderbolts, going 1 for 3 in his debut:

http://www.frontierleague.com/2008scores/wcy5290.html
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: supermiac on May 30, 2008, 09:18:53 PM
Quote from: OshDude on May 30, 2008, 05:52:39 PM
Quote from: supermiac on May 30, 2008, 05:39:25 PM
Hm... maybe they should have used their ace against Carthage then...

Lol ... like I wrote, I probably won't convince anyone ...

Demmin was their "ace" starter. Having Acevado face a LHP makes sense, no? Point being, if Ryno couldn't beat CC (his best matchup) UWO wasn't going to win the regional. Ryno didn't. UWO didn't. Burning Rube in one game, whether it be against Husing or Robinson, probably was not a good idea. I think people are under the impression that UWO had four awesome, consistent SPs.
No I completely understand that UWO wasn't as deep as other teams in the regional in terms of pitching. Yet, when everything is added up in the end, Ruebens was not used for a single inning. It must be very unsettling not only for Ruebens AND his teammates knowing that their supposed "ace" (which is what I've been hearing all year) was not given a chance. You can't simply "play for next year" come playoff time. What great disadvantage is it for Osh Kosh to pitch their #3-5 in the 3rd game anyways? It's certainly better than sitting at home watching the next round. Again, I fully understand the risk Lechnir was taking by not pitching him; but that doesn't make it right. There were several instances in the first two games for UWO when they could have used Ruebens to try to shut down Carthage and USt. They could have used him in the 3rd inning (I think) against CC, when Carthage piled up several runs. And they could have used him in the last 3 innings against USt to prevent them from scoring any insurance runs. Nonetheless, after hearing so much about him, I was disappointed not to be able to see him pitch.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 30, 2008, 10:33:01 PM
Quote from: supermiac on May 30, 2008, 09:18:53 PM
Nonetheless, after hearing so much about him, I was disappointed not to be able to see him pitch.
You can always head to next year's regionals ... on the rest, we can agree to disagree, I guess.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on May 31, 2008, 01:33:15 AM
Oshdude
  Not sure how that part got into bold. It was not intentional. I would just hate to see him develope any type of injury, because i think is VERY good. The point is that if Ruebens was used so much throughout the season, he should have been able to pitch in the regional. He pitched back to back days in the WIAC, so why was the regional different? And I agree that WW had the solid hitting and good pitching to get to the World Series. That is the point I was trying to make. They didn't just rely on 1 pitcher most of the time. It still is a team sport and you need to have a well balanced team to be successful. Jordan Zimmermann was a huge part of Point's team last year, but he also swung a mean bat. There were still 4 other pitchers on the team that contributed wins though, thus it was not just the Jordan Zimmermann show. Oshkosh still is one of the top 3 teams in the WIAC and I don't see that changing anytime soon. We have the right to disagree, just need to look at both sides. The last 4 appearances in the WS have been between WW and Point. Outside of WW relying on just 2 pitchers when they won it all in 2005, it seems that the 2 teams have relied on at least 4 good pitchers(at least through regionals). And I didn't mean to say that not using Gerl or Ruebens in the regional was the reason UWO lost. But if so much is based on their performances, I don't think that is fair either. Obviously there were other factors at play in UWO's lack of success.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 31, 2008, 09:03:54 AM
I didn't think Oshkosh's pitching was really the problem in the regional tournament.  They could have won with the pitching they got.  But when your teammates hit .167 and score 4 runs in two games even the best pitchers may not be enough.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Mr. Downtown on June 04, 2008, 10:18:12 AM
I'm just wondering if people really thought Oshkosh could win the regional?

Cause last time I checked, on how the last 3 years have went, if its Play-Off time and its a UW-Oshkosh Men's athletic team they're probably not going to win...

I can't explain what is going on when Oshkosh teams have as much talent (or in some sports, more) and don't even come close to the success as Whitewater. Grr.

Maybe that explains why we finished 4th in both the Men's and Women's athletic WIAC scores and 5th overall.

Wait... 4th + 4th = 5th?

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 04, 2008, 11:51:29 AM
It isn't that difficult to figure out how 4th + 4th = 5th, Downtown.

Here's how it works.  In men's sports they score 9 sports but use on the top 5 for each school because not all schools have programs in all 9 sports.  In women's sports they score 10 sports and use 7 for the same reason. 

4th + 4th = 5th because the LaCrosse men (3rd) outscored your men (4th) by 3.5 points and your women (4th) only outscored LaCrosse (5th) by .5 point.  Consequently when you add the two, LaCrosse moves ahead of you in the overall standings by 3 points.   

I can see why you slipped to only a regional winner in your senior year.  :D  ;) ;)  j/k


Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on June 04, 2008, 01:46:30 PM
Nice to see a little Warhawk, Titan banter. I believe Oshkosh certainly could have won that regional. Whitewater was strong though, it would have taken a lot of offense to compete with them. Oshkosh will be the team to beat next year! Returning everyone, but Hendricks. That is a good start to any season. Also they get Fadness back behind the plate which certainly won't hurt defensively or on the offense side.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 04, 2008, 03:57:02 PM
I doubt, hitting .167, that they could have.   Had they hit like they did during the regular season it might have been a different story.  But they didn't and it killed them.   The pitching was good enough to win if it had had some support.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 06, 2008, 02:38:30 PM
Quote from: Mr. Downtown on June 04, 2008, 10:18:12 AM
I'm just wondering if people really thought Oshkosh could win the regional?

Cause last time I checked, on how the last 3 years have went, if its Play-Off time and its a UW-Oshkosh Men's athletic team they're probably not going to win...

I can't explain what is going on when Oshkosh teams have as much talent (or in some sports, more) and don't even come close to the success as Whitewater. Grr.
Name a sport where Oshkosh has had more talent than a fellow WIAC team....  They had the least amount of pitching of the top three teams in the WIAC this season, yet were still in the race for a WIAC Title up until the last week of the season.

It gets REALLY annoying listening to you continually cry about UWO's lack of post-season success.  If you don't like it, than stop watching!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on June 06, 2008, 07:51:17 PM
Only three guys from Wisconsin were selected this year.

St. Norbert SS Adam Frost, 21st round to the Tigers.
West Bend East HS 3B Paul Hoenecke, 42nd round to the Tigers.
Arkansas-Little Rock LHP Steve Gilgenbach, 47th round to the Royals.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on June 06, 2008, 11:24:29 PM
There are four WIAC games to air on FSN Wisconsin this month. I remember a few cameras at the "Collision Game," so that could be the UWSP/UWO contest. It would give everyone a chance to see it for themselves instead of hearing the tall tales it has spawned. Hope that's the case.

UW-Whitewater vs. UW-La Crosse
Monday, June 9--7 p.m.

UW-Stevens Point vs. UW-Oshkosh
Monday, June 16--7 p.m.

UW-Whitewater vs. UW-Stevens Point
Saturday, June 21--Noon

UW-Whitewater vs. UW-Stevens Point
Thursday, June 26--7 p.m.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on June 07, 2008, 12:58:46 AM
Quote from: OshDude on June 06, 2008, 11:24:29 PM
There are four WIAC games to air on FSN Wisconsin this month. I remember a few cameras at the "Collision Game," so that could be the UWSP/UWO contest. It would give everyone a chance to see it for themselves instead of hearing the tall tales it has spawned. Hope that's the case.

UW-Whitewater vs. UW-La Crosse
Monday, June 9--7 p.m.

UW-Stevens Point vs. UW-Oshkosh
Monday, June 16--7 p.m.

UW-Whitewater vs. UW-Stevens Point
Saturday, June 21--Noon

UW-Whitewater vs. UW-Stevens Point
Thursday, June 26--7 p.m.

I believe these are the games from the WIAC tournament. Remember hearing at the tournament that the games would be televised in June on FSN.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on June 07, 2008, 01:08:45 AM
Quote from: szlongball on June 07, 2008, 12:58:46 AM
Quote from: OshDude on June 06, 2008, 11:24:29 PM
There are four WIAC games to air on FSN Wisconsin this month. I remember a few cameras at the "Collision Game," so that could be the UWSP/UWO contest. It would give everyone a chance to see it for themselves instead of hearing the tall tales it has spawned. Hope that's the case.

UW-Whitewater vs. UW-La Crosse
Monday, June 9--7 p.m.

UW-Stevens Point vs. UW-Oshkosh
Monday, June 16--7 p.m.

UW-Whitewater vs. UW-Stevens Point
Saturday, June 21--Noon

UW-Whitewater vs. UW-Stevens Point
Thursday, June 26--7 p.m.

I believe these are the games from the WIAC tournament. Remember hearing at the tournament that the games would be televised in June on FSN.
Makes sense. Bummer, then. Anyone see the "Collision Game" on FSN earlier in the year?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on June 21, 2008, 11:12:22 PM
Congrats to Aaron Dott for throwing a NO-Hitter on Wednseday for the LaCrosse Loggers. Surprised no one from WW posted this.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on June 24, 2008, 12:45:05 PM
Quote from: szlongball on June 21, 2008, 11:12:22 PM
Congrats to Aaron Dott for throwing a NO-Hitter on Wednseday for the LaCrosse Loggers. Surprised no one from WW posted this.

Thanks for the heads up...here is the story

Dott Makes Logger History vs. Bullfrogs


By Gregg Hoffmann

(Green Bay, WI)Aaron Dott made history last week for the Loggers, and by doing so also earned the team's Player of the Week honor.

Dott pitched the first no-hitter in team history, with a 6-1 win over the Green Bay Bullfrogs last Wednesday.

"It's something I've never done before in my life," said the  UW-Whitewater lefthander. "It's very exciting."

Dott surrendered seven walks and struck out four en route to the victory. He improved to 1-1 on the year.

"I didn't really have my best stuff," Dott said. "I was a little wild. My velocity was a little off. Of 134 pitches, I threw only four breaking balls. But, I was able to make pitches when I had to.

"I was able to throw a strike when I needed to. I also was able to get some batters to hit to the left side a couple times so the runner couldn't advance. My teammates made the plays when they had to."

The no-hitter was the latest in what already has been an exciting baseball season for Dott. He helped the Warhawks win the WIAC tournament this spring and played in the NCAA Division 3 World Series in Grand Chute.


http://www.lacrosseloggers.com/content/team/team_news?news_id=44
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 24, 2008, 04:00:32 PM
Dott really has the potential to be very, very good and a professional prospect.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on June 25, 2008, 12:05:36 PM
Sorry, but POINT WON the WIAC Tournament.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 26, 2008, 08:42:36 AM
Artificial turf approved for UW-Whitewater's baseball diamond ....

http://www.gazettextra.com/weblogs/latest-news/2008/jun/26/artificial-turf-approved-uw-whitewaters-baseball-d/

Although Prucha Field is probably as nice as any other baseball facility in the league with the turf and the other improvements slated it will be a first class facility once completed.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on July 15, 2008, 08:06:27 PM
Aaron Dott pitched .2 inning in the recent Northwoods League All-Star game.  After giving up a lead off walk Dott coaxed the next hitter into a groundout doubleplay.  Each team used 12 pitchers with only a few throwing a complete inning.  The South was victorious 8-4 in the game played in Madison.  Major league scouts were all over the place.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on August 17, 2008, 10:07:03 PM
UWSP announced their recruiting class this past week and it looks rather impressive.  However, I don't see them getting ahead of Oshkosh and Whitewater this year based on the experience they return.  Point will have plenty of depth at all positions including the outfield and Cody Koback should fill in nice in CF.  Looks like they also have some solid junior transfers and Mike Blizel of Sturgeon Bay won legion player of the year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on August 26, 2008, 03:52:59 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on August 17, 2008, 10:07:03 PM
UWSP announced their recruiting class this past week and it looks rather impressive.  However, I don't see them getting ahead of Oshkosh and Whitewater this year based on the experience they return.  Point will have plenty of depth at all positions including the outfield and Cody Koback should fill in nice in CF.  Looks like they also have some solid junior transfers and Mike Blizel of Sturgeon Bay won legion player of the year.
You may be able to add another All State performer to that list as well......

Rumor going around is that West De Pere's Brent Kakwitch has decided to change his mind and enroll at Point now instead of Oshkosh.  If this is the case, look for him to step right in and start on the infield for the Pointer's next season if this is indeed true.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on August 27, 2008, 11:37:11 PM
Due to a change in the schedule for the Rock River League Grand Championship Jeff Zielke(UWSP) will not get to pitch in the Championship Series for the Clyman Canners.
He was 13-0 with 8 CG  108 IP 107Ks  10 BB  1.00 ERA   16 runs  13 ER 
t
The Canners record is currently 20-2 heading into the Championship series. He
also got a chance to pitch for the Madison Mallards at the end of the regular season. Threw a complete game, gave up 6 hits, struck out 6, walked 1 and gave up 2 earned runs against the Battle Creek Bombers in Michigan. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on August 29, 2008, 08:20:59 PM
Is Zielke going to be a starter or remain closer for Point this year?  I would say it depends on whether or not Hemstead is 100% as Zielke is so valuable as a closer.  If the West De Pere kid also comes to Point I think that may sway my decision on whether Point can win conference.  They are going to be loaded this year as well as Whitewater and Oshkosh.  One concern I have with Oshkosh is their starting pitching against quality teams.   After Rubens what are they going to have?  Point has Nix who I consider a shutdown pitcher and I think Delorit will be in the status this year also.  Their offense should be at the top again or near.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on September 01, 2008, 11:19:32 PM
My guess is Zielke will remain the closer. Hasn't made any difference with the stats he throws during the summer the last couple of years. No doubt he can handle the role of closer. I know a lot of his former and current summer  teammates don't understand why he doesn't start, but being able to pitch when called upon is the most important thing. Don't see him cracking the starting rotation with the recruits Point has coming in. Scott Williams and Luke Hoeschele also pitched well this summer in the Rock River League. Got to like Point's pitching top to bottom. Agree that Oshkosh could be suspect after Ruebens. Only about 7 months til the season gets under way.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on October 20, 2008, 08:10:00 AM
Former Pointer Jordan Zimmermann named Nationals Top Minor League Pitcher (http://www.waow.com/Global/story.asp?S=9061542&nav=menu1360_4).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: mwunder on October 26, 2008, 11:08:31 PM
He's also been named the 17th highest ranked prospect in the game by none other than John Sickels for the end of the 2008 season.


17.) Jordan Zimmermann
Major sleeper alert.  Zimmermann could shoot into the 2010 Top 10 with another season like his 2009.  He looks very, very polished, and posted the Eastern League's third lowest opposing batting average.  I want to see more.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WIAC follower on November 04, 2008, 03:23:06 PM
hey everyone,
I know it is early but I was wondering who you all thought would get the fourth spot for the conference tournament this year? 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on November 04, 2008, 05:34:21 PM
I think it will be UW Superior
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan20 on November 06, 2008, 01:12:36 PM
I am going to have to say lax..

UWO
UWW
UWSP
UWL


same as last year
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on November 06, 2008, 04:28:13 PM
Until Superior proves it on the field, I am not certain that I can give them the nod at the #4 spot either. Too many years of finishing at the bottom of the WIAC to consider that they may not be there again, let alone leapfrog a few other teams in the process.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan20 on November 08, 2008, 08:28:32 PM
whos going to win it?  any predictions?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on November 10, 2008, 10:12:45 AM
Quote from: Titan20 on November 08, 2008, 08:28:32 PM
whos going to win it?  any predictions?


The WARHAWKS   :D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on November 10, 2008, 11:30:32 AM
Quote from: Titan20 on November 08, 2008, 08:28:32 PM
whos going to win it?  any predictions?

My predictions:

1. Oshkosh
2. Whitewater
3. Steven Point
4. Stout
5. Superior
6. La Crosse
7. Platteville

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan20 on November 10, 2008, 01:59:31 PM
Quote from: Titan20 on November 08, 2008, 08:28:32 PM
whos going to win it?  any predictions?

suprised by the superior over lax...other than that i agree
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on November 10, 2008, 05:57:04 PM
Subject to change, of course, but right now I like:
1. Oshkosh
2. Whitewater
3. Stevens Point
4. Superior
5. La Crosse
6. Stout
7. Platteville
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on November 10, 2008, 10:30:32 PM
Glad im not the only one who thinks UWS will slip in there for the 4th spot

Think oshkosh should be on top this year, but never know with how good the wiac is
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on November 14, 2008, 11:13:49 AM
Jeff Zielke was voted the Outstanding Pitcher of the Year for the Southern Division in the Rock River League. No one else was even considered for the award.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan20 on November 16, 2008, 04:10:58 PM
oshkosh will have 4 pitchers this year throwing over 87...and two of those over 90...should be a good starting rotation
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on November 16, 2008, 09:54:30 PM
Quote from: Titan20 on November 16, 2008, 04:10:58 PM
oshkosh will have 4 pitchers this year throwing over 87...and two of those over 90...should be a good starting rotation

I like pitchers who throw hard, but does not matter if its all they have or is 90 without movement or 90 and out of the zone. Just trying to make a point thats not the only thing that matters cuz the top teams in every region have a couple guys who throw upper 80s.

That being said I do agree with you that Oshkosh will have a good rotation.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on November 16, 2008, 10:24:19 PM
Quote from: Titan20 on November 16, 2008, 04:10:58 PM
oshkosh will have 4 pitchers this year throwing over 87...and two of those over 90...should be a good starting rotation
1. Rubens
2. R. Demmin
3. Kannenberg
4. ???

Am I close?

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan20 on November 17, 2008, 04:37:30 PM
you are right on...a freshman..brandon lenz hit 87 on scout day...
and for the movement, rubens is known as well is ryan d to have movement...kanny has good stuff and lenz is getting there.  if all goes well and they stay healthy, should be an exciting year
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: baseball20586 on November 25, 2008, 05:53:55 PM
I heard that Whitewater had a Freshman hit 92 or 93 on scout day. Anyone know if there is any truth to this?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on November 26, 2008, 09:25:11 AM
Quote from: baseball20586 on November 25, 2008, 05:53:55 PM
I heard that Whitewater had a Freshman hit 92 or 93 on scout day. Anyone know if there is any truth to this?

My sources place it at 90 on a gun that may not be as accurate as reported. The gun had not been calibrated in about 2-3 years.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on November 28, 2008, 03:04:05 PM
i heard he topped 88 with a crow hop and a mighty tail wind
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: baseball20586 on November 30, 2008, 08:01:31 PM
I heard that Multiple Guns at scout day had him in the low 90's.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on December 01, 2008, 04:32:31 PM
I was only joking around!...well if you heard that then you must know who it is, so please share!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: baseball20586 on December 01, 2008, 09:55:41 PM
I didn't get a name so i was hoping that someone else may have heard and knows who it is?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on December 01, 2008, 10:14:28 PM
Quote from: baseball20586 on November 25, 2008, 05:53:55 PM
I heard that Whitewater had a Freshman hit 92 or 93 on scout day. Anyone know if there is any truth to this?

Why is he playing at a D-III if he is popping 92?  Honestly, that makes no sense at all.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on December 01, 2008, 10:25:02 PM
Yea i dont know if I believe a freshman was hitting 92/93. Every high schooler i knew that hit 90+ was either drafted or D1 or both. Guess i will just have to see it to believe it
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: baseball20586 on December 02, 2008, 01:35:42 AM
I know a former player at WW who still is around the team from time to time and he confirmed that a Freshman sat in the low 90's on their scout day.  He didn't know the name but he knows that the guy is a Sophmore in school but has Freshman eligability. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on December 02, 2008, 08:55:27 AM
Quote from: baseball20586 on December 02, 2008, 01:35:42 AM
I know a former player at WW who still is around the team from time to time and he confirmed that a Freshman sat in the low 90's on their scout day.  He didn't know the name but he knows that the guy is a Sophmore in school but has Freshman eligability. 

Why don't you just tell us that it is you?!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ballfan55 on December 02, 2008, 09:27:44 AM
Quote from: BaseballFan on December 01, 2008, 10:25:02 PM
Yea i dont know if I believe a freshman was hitting 92/93. Every high schooler i knew that hit 90+ was either drafted or D1 or both. Guess i will just have to see it to believe it

Some choose to stay in the state and play DIII because despite the fact that they get a scholarship it may not be a full ride and the cost of a school out of state may be more than going to an i in-state D3 school.  What did Koback through in HS?  He stayed.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: baseball20586 on December 02, 2008, 10:18:09 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on December 02, 2008, 08:55:27 AM
Quote from: baseball20586 on December 02, 2008, 01:35:42 AM
I know a former player at WW who still is around the team from time to time and he confirmed that a Freshman sat in the low 90's on their scout day.  He didn't know the name but he knows that the guy is a Sophmore in school but has Freshman eligability. 

Why don't you just tell us that it is you?!

HAHA i wish it was me, i was toppin out at 86, haha maybe touched 88 if the wind was at my back
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on December 03, 2008, 12:26:46 AM
Quote from: BaseballFan on December 01, 2008, 10:25:02 PM
Yea i dont know if I believe a freshman was hitting 92/93. Every high schooler i knew that hit 90+ was either drafted or D1 or both. Guess i will just have to see it to believe it
MLB will find players anywhere, if that's the player's goal. Probably won't be a Boras client with a lot of zeros on the first contract, but in D-III you'll get scouted/drafted.
I've spoken with several D-I to D-III transfers (not all baseball players, but a few). The most common reason was D-I took the fun out of playing. I heard "It was like a job" quite often. And if it's a partial scholarship, like most sports, I've heard "It just wasn't worth it" a lot. If the athletes are from Wisconsin, WIAC tuition is usually less than D-I tuition with a partial.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on December 03, 2008, 12:27:12 PM
Very true! I was offered many partial scholarships that still would have made it more expensive than in-state tuition at a WIAC school. With all that being said, I still chose Carthage and its private school tuition over the WIAC schools. (I will be paying off my Carthage loans for many years to come, but I would not have it any other way).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on December 03, 2008, 12:41:52 PM
Not that it's any of my business, but why?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on December 03, 2008, 03:26:16 PM
Quote from: janesvilleflash on December 03, 2008, 12:41:52 PM
Not that it's any of my business, but why?

I was just much more comfortable at a smaller school and was given a chance to play every day as a freshman. It provided a quality education and I was very comfortable with the coaching staff at Carthage.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on December 03, 2008, 09:50:58 PM
Quote from: OshDude on December 03, 2008, 12:26:46 AM
Quote from: BaseballFan on December 01, 2008, 10:25:02 PM
Yea i dont know if I believe a freshman was hitting 92/93. Every high schooler i knew that hit 90+ was either drafted or D1 or both. Guess i will just have to see it to believe it
MLB will find players anywhere, if that's the player's goal. Probably won't be a Boras client with a lot of zeros on the first contract, but in D-III you'll get scouted/drafted.
I've spoken with several D-I to D-III transfers (not all baseball players, but a few). The most common reason was D-I took the fun out of playing. I heard "It was like a job" quite often. And if it's a partial scholarship, like most sports, I've heard "It just wasn't worth it" a lot. If the athletes are from Wisconsin, WIAC tuition is usually less than D-I tuition with a partial.

As hard as it may be for you to believe there OshDude I went to UWM on a scholarship out of HS, I didnt like it there and basically what you said, I didnt think it was worth it being unhappy to just stay because of the scholarship and that it was a D1 school. 
While I agree it was like a job, I have time imagining that the other WIAC schools dont have a lot going on, the amount of things we do at UWS (practice, conditioning, weight lifting, etc) are the exact same as UWM, but Ive heard about other schools where theres more.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on December 03, 2008, 11:43:57 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on December 03, 2008, 03:26:16 PM
Quote from: janesvilleflash on December 03, 2008, 12:41:52 PM
Not that it's any of my business, but why?

I was just much more comfortable at a smaller school and was given a chance to play every day as a freshman. It provided a quality education and I was very comfortable with the coaching staff at Carthage.

Did you happen to know my man, Hank Johnson?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on December 04, 2008, 12:02:37 AM
Quote from: Slinger45 on December 03, 2008, 09:50:58 PM
Quote from: OshDude on December 03, 2008, 12:26:46 AM
Quote from: BaseballFan on December 01, 2008, 10:25:02 PM
Yea i dont know if I believe a freshman was hitting 92/93. Every high schooler i knew that hit 90+ was either drafted or D1 or both. Guess i will just have to see it to believe it
MLB will find players anywhere, if that's the player's goal. Probably won't be a Boras client with a lot of zeros on the first contract, but in D-III you'll get scouted/drafted.
I've spoken with several D-I to D-III transfers (not all baseball players, but a few). The most common reason was D-I took the fun out of playing. I heard "It was like a job" quite often. And if it's a partial scholarship, like most sports, I've heard "It just wasn't worth it" a lot. If the athletes are from Wisconsin, WIAC tuition is usually less than D-I tuition with a partial.

As hard as it may be for you to believe there OshDude I went to UWM on a scholarship out of HS, I didnt like it there and basically what you said, I didnt think it was worth it being unhappy to just stay because of the scholarship and that it was a D1 school. 
While I agree it was like a job, I have time imagining that the other WIAC schools dont have a lot going on, the amount of things we do at UWS (practice, conditioning, weight lifting, etc) are the exact same as UWM, but Ive heard about other schools where theres more.
I believe it. I believed it when I heard it last spring, and I believed after seeing you pitch.

I blew out my shoulder the summer after my senior year, wasting a partial. I didn't even have options after that. College baseball's funny that way, especially when you're not a HS All-American or something similar, nationally, that also sounds good.

Of course I've mostly heard from men and women who made the D-I to D-III move and only one D-III to D-I (a female sprinter). I knew those athletes were all in D-III for a reason, but I was amazed by the small variance of those reasons. I can only think of one guy's primary motivating factor being something other than shades of what I wrote before – this one athlete missed his family, which was like 1,800 miles away if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on December 04, 2008, 01:31:56 PM
Quote from: janesvilleflash on December 03, 2008, 11:43:57 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on December 03, 2008, 03:26:16 PM
Quote from: janesvilleflash on December 03, 2008, 12:41:52 PM
Not that it's any of my business, but why?

I was just much more comfortable at a smaller school and was given a chance to play every day as a freshman. It provided a quality education and I was very comfortable with the coaching staff at Carthage.

Did you happen to know my man, Hank Johnson?

I attended Carthage from 1993-96. Not sure when Hank was there?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on December 05, 2008, 01:08:56 PM
Quote from: OshDude on December 04, 2008, 12:02:37 AM
Quote from: Slinger45 on December 03, 2008, 09:50:58 PM
Quote from: OshDude on December 03, 2008, 12:26:46 AM
Quote from: BaseballFan on December 01, 2008, 10:25:02 PM
Yea i dont know if I believe a freshman was hitting 92/93. Every high schooler i knew that hit 90+ was either drafted or D1 or both. Guess i will just have to see it to believe it
MLB will find players anywhere, if that's the player's goal. Probably won't be a Boras client with a lot of zeros on the first contract, but in D-III you'll get scouted/drafted.
I've spoken with several D-I to D-III transfers (not all baseball players, but a few). The most common reason was D-I took the fun out of playing. I heard "It was like a job" quite often. And if it's a partial scholarship, like most sports, I've heard "It just wasn't worth it" a lot. If the athletes are from Wisconsin, WIAC tuition is usually less than D-I tuition with a partial.

As hard as it may be for you to believe there OshDude I went to UWM on a scholarship out of HS, I didnt like it there and basically what you said, I didnt think it was worth it being unhappy to just stay because of the scholarship and that it was a D1 school. 
While I agree it was like a job, I have time imagining that the other WIAC schools dont have a lot going on, the amount of things we do at UWS (practice, conditioning, weight lifting, etc) are the exact same as UWM, but Ive heard about other schools where theres more.
I believe it. I believed it when I heard it last spring, and I believed after seeing you pitch.

I blew out my shoulder the summer after my senior year, wasting a partial. I didn't even have options after that. College baseball's funny that way, especially when you're not a HS All-American or something similar, nationally, that also sounds good.

Of course I've mostly heard from men and women who made the D-I to D-III move and only one D-III to D-I (a female sprinter). I knew those athletes were all in D-III for a reason, but I was amazed by the small variance of those reasons. I can only think of one guy's primary motivating factor being something other than shades of what I wrote before – this one athlete missed his family, which was like 1,800 miles away if I remember correctly.

Haha well I was just givin ya a hard time Osh, but yeah I dont have to tell you about shoulders injuries.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on December 05, 2008, 05:04:34 PM
UW-Oshkosh receives a bid to host the Midwest Regionals once again this season. 

Looks like EJ Schneider will get a makeover once again when the month of May rolls around.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on December 05, 2008, 11:57:05 PM
Quote from: cubs on December 05, 2008, 05:04:34 PM
UW-Oshkosh receives a bid to host the Midwest Regionals once again this season. 

Looks like EJ Schneider will get a makeover once again when the month of May rolls around.
Hope the makeover starts with new stands and an enclosed press box. One of these years someone's gonna get hurt on the third base bleachers. And calling games under parasols and covering your boards with garbage bags probably isn't fun.

I'll take the field as is, though.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on December 08, 2008, 05:18:06 PM
I completely understand needing a field with lights, but the best field in Oshkosh gets used for BP. I don't understand why they don't use the campus field and use EJ if there's rain or night games. Had a chance to see a few games of last years regional and EJ is no friend to lefty's. Not going to complain though, most anything beats the band box in Wisc. Rapids!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on December 09, 2008, 09:26:13 AM
Quote from: BRONKO7 on December 08, 2008, 05:18:06 PM
I completely understand needing a field with lights, but the best field in Oshkosh gets used for BP. I don't understand why they don't use the campus field and use EJ if there's rain or night games. Had a chance to see a few games of last years regional and EJ is no friend to lefty's. Not going to complain though, most anything beats the band box in Wisc. Rapids!

Since there's no more 4-team regionals, all the NCAA Regionals require night games. The NCAA won't let you split the regional games between two fields.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on December 09, 2008, 11:24:14 AM
Unfortunately WW's baseball field project had to be postponed to next summer.  Once completed we'll have lights and be bidding for a regional tournament.

In the meantime we've had some success on EJ Schneider diamond and won't mind returning.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on December 09, 2008, 03:15:57 PM
Quote from: OshDude on December 05, 2008, 11:57:05 PM
I'll take the field as is, though.
As is? 

Not me......

Wasn't EJ where a UWO player took a ball in the face during infield practice at Regionals some years back?  I believe they had to "burn" a redshirt on the guy that ended having to play.

He ended up having a pretty decent career though.....  Aaron Luepke ring a bell?

(Anyone else remember this or is my memory starting to go with old age?)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on December 10, 2008, 11:34:01 AM
You are correct sir. Not sure on the year it happened, but I was playing for Carthage at the time, so it had to be between 1993-96. I played tons of high school and legion games at EJ Schneider field. While it is a fantastic high school facility, I think they could do much better for the NCAA regionals. Much of this selection probably has to do with the quality of the event that UW-O hosts and not the quaility of the facility.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on December 10, 2008, 01:21:47 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on December 10, 2008, 11:34:01 AM
You are correct sir. Not sure on the year it happened, but I was playing for Carthage at the time, so it had to be between 1993-96.
I'm pretty sure it was 1995, the year after UWO won the National Championship.  Dan Johnston took a ball in the face during warm-ups, which forced Luepke to play and "use" his redshirt.  I believe that was also the year that UWO and Carthage played in the first round of the World Series in Salem, with the Titans winning.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on December 11, 2008, 01:17:22 AM
Quote from: Just Bill on December 09, 2008, 09:26:13 AM
Quote from: BRONKO7 on December 08, 2008, 05:18:06 PM
I completely understand needing a field with lights, but the best field in Oshkosh gets used for BP. I don't understand why they don't use the campus field and use EJ if there's rain or night games. Had a chance to see a few games of last years regional and EJ is no friend to lefty's. Not going to complain though, most anything beats the band box in Wisc. Rapids!

Since there's no more 4-team regionals, all the NCAA Regionals require night games. The NCAA won't let you split the regional games between two fields.
May have been just plain luck, but lights were not even close to being needed at EJ last year.

And if you play 3B at EJ, you're either brave or you don't know what you're in for. I did it several times, but I always hoped I wouldn't get killed. Things happens VERY quickly over there. But the rest of the IF is sweet. Granted I have not played at EJ in years, but SS and 2B were a pleasure to play at EJ. There's a lip at SS that one pregame fungo session will prepare you for, but whenever I played 2B there the IF was so fast that I played 5 feet into RF with the bases empty. I guess I had the experienced knowledge of the quirks, but I loved that IF. Everywhere but 3B, that is. If you've ever played 3B during the twilight hours on a clear day at EJ, you know it's almost impossible. Downright scary.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on December 13, 2008, 10:02:00 PM
Don't know if everyone saw that all schedules are up. Noticed the home-and-homes for nearby schools are gone this year. Not sure how I feel about that, but I don't think I like it.
Schedule edge to Point with WW and UWO at home. Schedule deficit to WW with road series at UWO and Point.

Oshkosh (http://www.titans.uwosh.edu/Baseball/Schedule.html)
Home: WW, LAX, PV
Road: Point, Sup, Stout
Noncon: Spring games (Fla.), Marian (H)

Whitewater (http://www.uwwsports.com/schedules.asp?path=baseball)
Home: LAX, Sup, PV
Road: UWO, Point, Stout
Noncon: Spring games (Fla.), St. Mary's (Dome @ 10 p.m.), St. Thomas (Dome @ 10 p.m.), Carroll (H, still called a college on WW site. It's now Carroll University ...), Marian (A), CUW (A) (betcha Marian and/or CUW get cancelled ...)
HC John Vodenlich was recently named the state College Coach of the Year by the Wisconsin Baseball Coaches Association. Not a big shocker, but thought I'd pass it on.

Stevens Point (http://athletics.uwsp.edu/schedules.asp?path=baseball)
Home: UWO, WW, Stout
Road: LAX, Sup, PV
Noncon: Spring games (Fla.), St. Olaf (Dome), St. Norbert (A), Ripon (H), Edgewood (A)

Superior (http://www.uwsuper.edu/athletics/mens/baseball/schedule.cfm)
Home: UWO, Point, Stout
Road: WW, LAX, PV
Noncon: Spring games (Fla.), Hamline (Dome), Loras (Dome @ 6 a.m.), Augsburg (Dome), Northland (H)
Not in-region: Concordia-St. Paul (Dome), Viterbo (A)
Superior on the road for first 3/4 or so of the year (3/4-4/19), home for last 1/4 (4/21-5/2). Three Supes captains have a blog (http://yellowjacketbaseball.blogspot.com/) this year. Also, two P's featured in Baseball Newsletter (http://www.uwsuper.edu/athletics/mens/baseball/08-09/news/upload/Baseball-Newsletter.pdf).

La Crosse (http://perth.uwlax.edu/Athletics/mbaseball/schedule/)
Home: Point, Sup, Stout
Road: UWO, WW, PV
Noncon: Spring games (Ariz.), St. Scholastica (Dome @ 11:45 p.m.), St. Mary's (H), Gustavus (A), St. Olaf (H)
Not in-region: Viterbo (H)

Stout (http://www3.uwstout.edu/athletics/baseball/sked.cfm)
Home: UWO, WW, PV
Road: Point, Sup, LAX
Noncon: Spring games (Ariz.), St. Thomas (A), Lawrence (A)
Not in-region: Minnesota-Crookston (Dome @ 6:45 a.m.)

Platteville (http://www.uwplatt.edu/athletics/baseball/2009/schedule.html)
Home: Point, Sup, LAX
Road: UWO, WW, Stout
Noncon: Fontbonne (A), Maryville (A), Loras (A), Wisconsin Lutheran (A), St. Norbert (H), Edgewood (A)
Not in-region: Birmingham Southern (A), Huntingdon (A), Piedmont (A), St. Ambrose (A)
Kendall Murray Field will see action on just seven days this year. PV's on the road for the other 17 scheduled dates.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on December 16, 2008, 01:35:32 AM
nice work osh, just to clarify we only have 2 captains currently, and yours truly might drop in with a blog post from time to time as well.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on December 16, 2008, 09:16:40 PM
Quote from: Slinger45 on December 16, 2008, 01:35:32 AM
nice work osh, just to clarify we only have 2 captains currently, and yours truly might drop in with a blog post from time to time as well.
Who are the two captains? The newsletter said all three – Schlangen, Cummings and Ryan – were captains.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on December 17, 2008, 02:07:48 PM
Quote from: OshDude on December 16, 2008, 09:16:40 PM
Quote from: Slinger45 on December 16, 2008, 01:35:32 AM
nice work osh, just to clarify we only have 2 captains currently, and yours truly might drop in with a blog post from time to time as well.
Who are the two captains? The newsletter said all three – Schlangen, Cummings and Ryan – were captains.

Just Schlangen and Cummings, Ryan has left the team for personal reasons I think.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: wailaucm on December 17, 2008, 07:16:12 PM
Quote from: OshDude on December 11, 2008, 01:17:22 AM
Quote from: Just Bill on December 09, 2008, 09:26:13 AM
Quote from: BRONKO7 on December 08, 2008, 05:18:06 PM
I completely understand needing a field with lights, but the best field in Oshkosh gets used for BP. I don't understand why they don't use the campus field and use EJ if there's rain or night games. Had a chance to see a few games of last years regional and EJ is no friend to lefty's. Not going to complain though, most anything beats the band box in Wisc. Rapids!

Since there's no more 4-team regionals, all the NCAA Regionals require night games. The NCAA won't let you split the regional games between two fields.
May have been just plain luck, but lights were not even close to being needed at EJ last year.

And if you play 3B at EJ, you're either brave or you don't know what you're in for. I did it several times, but I always hoped I wouldn't get killed. Things happens VERY quickly over there. But the rest of the IF is sweet. Granted I have not played at EJ in years, but SS and 2B were a pleasure to play at EJ. There's a lip at SS that one pregame fungo session will prepare you for, but whenever I played 2B there the IF was so fast that I played 5 feet into RF with the bases empty. I guess I had the experienced knowledge of the quirks, but I loved that IF. Everywhere but 3B, that is. If you've ever played 3B during the twilight hours on a clear day at EJ, you know it's almost impossible. Downright scary.

Looking at the different fields that the Regionals could be played on, EJ is obviously not one of the best fields for the NCAA Regionals. If OSH or WW would get their lights up they would be the best places for a regional which is what oshdude has said.  So in the mean time, why not Wisc. Rapids.   Now being a part of the entire thing as a player and listening to all the talk, the community loves baseball and does so much for the WIAC and the NCAA the year it was there.   Its not like the fences get moved back when one team hits vs another, plus, the town just put almost 6 figures into that field to redo the infield and various little things around the park.  Isnt that what teams and people want, is to play in a NCAA Regional where the community cares that the tournament like that is there in their city and goes that far above normal to put on a great tournament for the athletes. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ballfan55 on December 18, 2008, 10:25:00 AM
I understand WIAC tourney is not in WI Rapids this year but has been moved to Green Bay's Joannes field.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on December 18, 2008, 01:49:01 PM
Quote from: jbeeeb on December 18, 2008, 10:25:00 AM
I understand WIAC tourney is not in WI Rapids this year but has been moved to Green Bay's Joannes field.
I can't say I have heard anything about this....  All the WIAC baseball teams still have TBA listed on their schedules for the 2009 season.

Any chance you have a link?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on December 18, 2008, 03:27:32 PM
Quote from: wailaucm on December 17, 2008, 07:16:12 PM
So in the mean time, why not Wisc. Rapids.   Now being a part of the entire thing as a player and listening to all the talk, the community loves baseball and does so much for the WIAC and the NCAA the year it was there.   Its not like the fences get moved back when one team hits vs another, plus, the town just put almost 6 figures into that field to redo the infield and various little things around the park.  Isnt that what teams and people want, is to play in a NCAA Regional where the community cares that the tournament like that is there in their city and goes that far above normal to put on a great tournament for the athletes. 
I guess my thing is is why not play on a field that is similar to what you will be playing on in the World Series?  Witter Field and Fox Cities Stadium couldn't be more different as far as how it plays.  If you hit a HR at the World Series you have truly earned it, where as as Witter Field, some lazy fly balls are able to carry out for a "cheap" HR.

In 2007, Point had four different players hit a total of 6 HR's in five games at the Regionals, but were unable to hit even one until their fourth and final game of the World Series when Zimmerman hit a pair.

In 2006 it was even more drastic, as eight different Pointers accounted for 16 HR's in six games in the Regionals, but were only able to muster two in the World Series (Zimmerman and Brehm each hit one) in three games.

Now obviously the pitching is better at the World Series, which accounts for some of the difference, but the 16/2 number is VERY eye-opening.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: wailaucm on December 18, 2008, 09:31:46 PM
Quote from: cubs on December 18, 2008, 03:27:32 PM
Quote from: wailaucm on December 17, 2008, 07:16:12 PM
So in the mean time, why not Wisc. Rapids.   Now being a part of the entire thing as a player and listening to all the talk, the community loves baseball and does so much for the WIAC and the NCAA the year it was there.   Its not like the fences get moved back when one team hits vs another, plus, the town just put almost 6 figures into that field to redo the infield and various little things around the park.  Isnt that what teams and people want, is to play in a NCAA Regional where the community cares that the tournament like that is there in their city and goes that far above normal to put on a great tournament for the athletes. 
I guess my thing is is why not play on a field that is similar to what you will be playing on in the World Series?  Witter Field and Fox Cities Stadium couldn't be more different as far as how it plays.  If you hit a HR at the World Series you have truly earned it, where as as Witter Field, some lazy fly balls are able to carry out for a "cheap" HR.

In 2007, Point had four different players hit a total of 6 HR's in five games at the Regionals, but were unable to hit even one until their fourth and final game of the World Series when Zimmerman hit a pair.

In 2006 it was even more drastic, as eight different Pointers accounted for 16 HR's in six games in the Regionals, but were only able to muster two in the World Series (Zimmerman and Brehm each hit one) in three games.

Now obviously the pitching is better at the World Series, which accounts for some of the difference, but the 16/2 number is VERY eye-opening.

Very good points Cubs, first I want to comment on the WIAC Tourney. 
Rumor has it and it hasnt been finalized yet because of some administrators not liking it but the new WIAC tourney could be the top four teams again playing but #1 vs. #4 and #2 vs #3 in a 3-game series played at the higher seeded team.  No more double-elimination tournament at least that is what is proposed.  So the tourney could last a week. 

For the field being part of those numbers I will agree that playing there pads your stats and is the opposite of Fox Cities Stadium.  I agree that games should be played on a bigger field but until the other fields get the money/lights up play it at Witter.  The pitchers at the World Series are that much better then the regional however WW proved your point slightly wrong because they didnt hit very many at all at Witter during the WIAC Tourney but went on a homerun hitting streak in Osh and App.  So you cant really say the field is that much of a difference. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on December 19, 2008, 12:24:58 AM
Quote from: cubs on December 18, 2008, 01:49:01 PM
Quote from: jbeeeb on December 18, 2008, 10:25:00 AM
I understand WIAC tourney is not in WI Rapids this year but has been moved to Green Bay's Joannes field.
I can't say I have heard anything about this....  All the WIAC baseball teams still have TBA listed on their schedules for the 2009 season.

Any chance you have a link?
The Superior Baseball Newsletter has the Green Bay WIAC tourney listed.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on December 19, 2008, 02:44:38 PM
My personal opinion and experience is that when you play on shorter fields, players basbeball swings tend to be more condusive to the field. In other words they hit more fly balls cuz they know they will go out. Just happens to be that most fields in wisconsin are really short. In minnesota the fields are on the larger side and some of those homeruns in WI are just routine outs in minnesota.

I definately think it affects the game and gives an advantage to some teams despite both teams playing on the same field. It would be nice if they could alternate the site between WI and MN every year. Too bad no one in MN wants it so we will just have to be satisfied with WI.

One last thing, Wisconsin Rapids is a great host, but not a field for a regional. glad to hear they fixed the infield, but the field is just too short. Regional site should not be played at a crackerbox.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on December 27, 2008, 08:51:57 PM
Hey, it's 55 today. Let's play ball.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on December 29, 2008, 03:23:12 PM
The WARHAWKS are the only WIAC program ranked in Collegiate Baseball Newspaper's DIII pre-season poll.....

http://thecollegebaseballblog.com/2008/12/26/2009-collegiate-baseball-newspaper-preseason-division-3-poll/#more-8481
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on January 01, 2009, 02:12:26 PM
Whitewater should be ranked higher.  Point and Oshkosh should both be in top 25 but it don't matter.  Point may be better off starting off lower because every year their ranked too high to begin the year.  I finally seen their roster for this year and it looks rather impressive.  Unfortunately, Whitewater's and Oshkosh's are better on paper but we all know it's decided on the field.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan20 on January 03, 2009, 06:09:55 PM
that is just based on last year.  i garrentee that OSH will be in the top 25, prolly top 15 in the pre season polls when they come out ..the real one
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on January 05, 2009, 12:08:53 AM
Saw someone on another board made preseason AC picks. Seemed like a good way to generate some activity before every board debates the AA teams that are to be announced later this week. I know the WIAC doesn't do AC selections this way, but it makes things easier to have one dude at each position. These are the dudes I think will be the best at the end of the year. Might not be the best topic and I went chalk for the most part, but it's worth a shot.

C Greg Smolinski, UWSt
1B Brad Demmin, UWO
2B Ben Kuhlmann, UWW ... prolly playing SS, but I'm using his 2B eligibility like in fantasy baseball
3B Kevin Zalnis, UWW
SS Eric Fritz, UWSP
OF Jordan Stine, UWW
OF Storm Gram, LAX
OF Jared Surman, UWSP
UTIL Cody Koback, UWSP ... because I wanted to squeeze him in here somewhere
P Jeremy Rubens, UWO
P Aaron Dott, UWW
P Joe Lange, UWP
P Joel  Delorit, UWSP
P Tim Bouvine, UWSup ... don't make me look like a fool now ;)
Several pitchers I'd like to add.

Position POY: Kevin Zalnis, UWW
Pitcher of the Year: Jeremy Rubens, UWO
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 05, 2009, 12:12:49 AM
Dude, do you have a DH?  :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on January 05, 2009, 12:26:37 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 05, 2009, 12:12:49 AM
Dude, do you have a DH?  :)
On this team, I'll be the DH. My bum shoulder would relegate me to DH duty anyway. I could hit .300 in the 9 hole with this lineup.  Haven't swung a bat in a couple of years, but throw me anywhere around these guys and I'll drive in 30. At least in my mind I can still rake ... I still have some eligibility left.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on January 05, 2009, 12:27:21 AM
Can't log off with 666 posts ...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on January 05, 2009, 02:21:30 PM
Quote from: OshDude on January 05, 2009, 12:08:53 AM
C Greg Smolinski, UWSt
1B Brad Demmin, UWO
2B Ben Kuhlmann, UWW ... prolly playing SS, but I'm using his 2B eligibility like in fantasy baseball
3B Kevin Zalnis, UWW
SS Eric Fritz, UWSP
OF Jordan Stine, UWW
OF Storm Gram, LAX
OF Jared Surman, UWSP
UTIL Cody Koback, UWSP ... because I wanted to squeeze him in here somewhere
P Jeremy Rubens, UWO
P Aaron Dott, UWW
P Joe Lange, UWP
P Joel  Delorit, UWSP
P Tim Bouvine, UWSup ... don't make me look like a fool now ;)
Several pitchers I'd like to add.

Position POY: Kevin Zalnis, UWW
Pitcher of the Year: Jeremy Rubens, UWO
About the only chnage I would make, is putting Cummings from Superior in at 2B over Kuhlmann.

My DH would be Corcorran from Whitewater.....

I know you went "chalk" for most of your selections, but I have a funny feeling that Koback won't be the only freshman on the list.  In fact, I'd actually be disappointed if there weren't a couple more.

Also, I noticed you have Fritz at SS....  I figured he would just stay at 3B like he was at the end of last season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on January 06, 2009, 03:40:43 AM
Quote from: OshDude on January 05, 2009, 12:08:53 AM
Saw someone on another board made preseason AC picks. Seemed like a good way to generate some activity before every board debates the AA teams that are to be announced later this week. I know the WIAC doesn't do AC selections this way, but it makes things easier to have one dude at each position. These are the dudes I think will be the best at the end of the year. Might not be the best topic and I went chalk for the most part, but it's worth a shot.

C Greg Smolinski, UWSt
1B Brad Demmin, UWO
2B Ben Kuhlmann, UWW ... prolly playing SS, but I'm using his 2B eligibility like in fantasy baseball
3B Kevin Zalnis, UWW
SS Eric Fritz, UWSP
OF Jordan Stine, UWW
OF Storm Gram, LAX
OF Jared Surman, UWSP
UTIL Cody Koback, UWSP ... because I wanted to squeeze him in here somewhere
P Jeremy Rubens, UWO
P Aaron Dott, UWW
P Joe Lange, UWP
P Joel  Delorit, UWSP
P Tim Bouvine, UWSup ... don't make me look like a fool now ;)
Several pitchers I'd like to add.

Position POY: Kevin Zalnis, UWW
Pitcher of the Year: Jeremy Rubens, UWO

ill do my best haha
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on January 06, 2009, 08:15:12 AM
Quote from: cubs on January 05, 2009, 02:21:30 PM
Quote from: OshDude on January 05, 2009, 12:08:53 AM
C Greg Smolinski, UWSt
1B Brad Demmin, UWO
2B Ben Kuhlmann, UWW ... prolly playing SS, but I'm using his 2B eligibility like in fantasy baseball
3B Kevin Zalnis, UWW
SS Eric Fritz, UWSP
OF Jordan Stine, UWW
OF Storm Gram, LAX
OF Jared Surman, UWSP
UTIL Cody Koback, UWSP ... because I wanted to squeeze him in here somewhere
P Jeremy Rubens, UWO
P Aaron Dott, UWW
P Joe Lange, UWP
P Joel  Delorit, UWSP
P Tim Bouvine, UWSup ... don't make me look like a fool now ;)
Several pitchers I'd like to add.

Position POY: Kevin Zalnis, UWW
Pitcher of the Year: Jeremy Rubens, UWO
About the only chnage I would make, is putting Cummings from Superior in at 2B over Kuhlmann.

My DH would be Corcorran from Whitewater.....

I know you went "chalk" for most of your selections, but I have a funny feeling that Koback won't be the only freshman on the list.  In fact, I'd actually be disappointed if there weren't a couple more.

Also, I noticed you have Fritz at SS....  I figured he would just stay at 3B like he was at the end of last season.
I agree with the frosh part. If the Titans have the kind of record I think they will, Jirschele and Sebasta will be in contention for AC. You may be right about Fritz, but I think he's best utilized at SS.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on January 09, 2009, 03:48:18 PM
Heard a rumor Jordan Stine of UWW has a possible rotator cuff injury sustained in practice.  Anyone have info on the severity of it?  Or if it happened at all?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on January 18, 2009, 01:39:08 PM
UW-WHITEWATER'S  third baseman Kevin Zalnis and UW-Oskosh's pticher Jeremy Rubens have been named to the D3.baseball.com's pre-season All American team.  Both were second team selections.  Oshkosh's firstbaseman Brad Demmin was named an honorable mention member.

http://d3baseball.com/
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 06, 2009, 09:54:36 AM
While we're waiting for the thaw and a few box scores to peruse this week, the Supes updated their blog (http://yellowjacketbaseball.blogspot.com/) a couple of weeks ago. Slinger, you need to let us know when the newsletters and blogs get updated.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on February 06, 2009, 11:20:44 AM
UW-Whitewater 2008 Catcher and Captain Billy Johnson signs with the Milwaukee Brewers.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on February 06, 2009, 03:10:59 PM
Johnson was a good second baseman (HM All Conference) but we needed a catcher and despite not having played the position since little league he volunteered.  Then he ended up an All Conference first team selection.  He's solid behind the plate and he's really just learning the position. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: batboy on February 07, 2009, 05:33:33 PM
Whats everybody's picks for the top 4 teams in the conference this year?I feel that this is going to be an interesting year throughout the conference; a lot of surprises might be in store.  Maybe Superior will make it to the tourney, Stevens Point is young but talented, Whitewater may have some key players out, and Oshkosh...well you never know with them i guess.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on February 07, 2009, 08:29:06 PM
1.  Point-  This is the year no one including myself expects them to win conference so I think it will happen.  No one is mentioning them this year and they have a ton of talent and good freshman.  I think they will struggle mightily at the catcher position though and singles may become triples.
2.  Whitewater-  Dott will go undefeated on the mound but I'm not sure their pitching is that great after him. They certainly can rake but if Stine is really out for the season that will kill their outfield.  He has unbelievable range out there.
3.  Oshkosh-  I think they have the most talent top to bottom but are also relying on some really good freshman to step up like Point.  Reubens is a stud but they also have some issues with quality starting pitching.
4.  Superior-  Should be able to perhaps take a game or two from each of the above teams.  We're very competitive last year and should be a lot stronger this year.  Wouldn't be surprised to see them finish 3rd. 

Does anyone know Points lineup if the season were to start today?  I'm guessing Nix is their ace once again with Delorit or Hemstead being the #2.  Who is the pitcher they got from MATC?  I heard he's got a shot of getting drafted.  Is Zielke closing or starting this year?  Who will be the starting catcher?  I'm guessing Cody Koback will be playing CF.  Is he going to pitch this year at all?  I think Point has some major holes to fill on the infield but definitely have some really good young guys to fill in.  I'm guessing Fritz is starting at Short.  Also assuming that Surman will be in left, Koback in Center, and Archambeau in Right. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on February 08, 2009, 12:07:54 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 07, 2009, 08:29:06 PM
1.  Point-  This is the year no one including myself expects them to win conference so I think it will happen.  No one is mentioning them this year and they have a ton of talent and good freshman.  I think they will struggle mightily at the catcher position though and singles may become triples.
2.  Whitewater-  Dott will go undefeated on the mound but I'm not sure their pitching is that great after him. They certainly can rake but if Stine is really out for the season that will kill their outfield.  He has unbelievable range out there.
3.  Oshkosh-  I think they have the most talent top to bottom but are also relying on some really good freshman to step up like Point.  Reubens is a stud but they also have some issues with quality starting pitching.
4.  Superior-  Should be able to perhaps take a game or two from each of the above teams.  We're very competitive last year and should be a lot stronger this year.  Wouldn't be surprised to see them finish 3rd. 

Does anyone know Points lineup if the season were to start today?  I'm guessing Nix is their ace once again with Delorit or Hemstead being the #2.  Who is the pitcher they got from MATC?  I heard he's got a shot of getting drafted.  Is Zielke closing or starting this year?  Who will be the starting catcher?  I'm guessing Cody Koback will be playing CF.  Is he going to pitch this year at all?  I think Point has some major holes to fill on the infield but definitely have some really good young guys to fill in.  I'm guessing Fritz is starting at Short.  Also assuming that Surman will be in left, Koback in Center, and Archambeau in Right. 

1. Oshkosh-finished only 1 game out of 1st last year and only lost 1 senior
2. UWW- region champs but more than oshkosh and one of their aces
3. Point- finished 3rd last year, lost a lot, dont think freshman talent can win you the wiac
4. Superior-should continue to improve, think they may reach 12-12 in the conference. anymore than that would be a huge change from year to year after putting up a solid 4 wins last year. So i dont see them taking 3rd
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 08, 2009, 09:06:08 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 07, 2009, 08:29:06 PM
4.  Superior-  Should be able to perhaps take a game or two from each of the above teams.  We're very competitive last year and should be a lot stronger this year.  Wouldn't be surprised to see them finish 3rd.  
Wow. That's a bold statement. What has happened in the WIAC since you were born to make you think that? So i'm assuming, because you had UWO third, that you wouldn't be surprised if the Supes finished ahead of the Titans? You may be alone on that ...

My top four is the same as it was before, and the same as BaseballFan's.
1. Oshkosh: Gets some nice freshmen (Sebasta, legion state hitter of the year; Jirschele, he's a Jirschele; and a few more) of their own. That's in addition to the returnees. The keys will be Ryan Demmin and whoever fills the No. 3 SP role. Lots to like, though.
2. Whitewater: Agree that no Stine would be huge. Can anyone confirm? Top half of the order is loaded. Will the Hawks have the pitching or just mash every game Dott doesn't start?
3. Point: Really do like the team. Just don't think it's better than UWO or UWW. Looking forward to watching Hemstead's progress. If he's as good as he was, I could see UWSP being a comfortable Pool C, especially if Delorit is as good as I think he will be. I like the top six (or so) in the order a lot. Don't care how young they are, those guys can rake.
4. Superior: Will be a battle, but, as a whole, I like the Supe pitching more than the others.

What we're really doing here is splitting hairs. The top three should be very good, but I think the easiest order is mine and BaseballFan's, which goes by how many question marks a team has. Your Point pick isn't outrageous, but I just can't see it with UWO and UWW so strong. Superior in third on the other hand ... that's close to being outrageous.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on February 08, 2009, 10:04:17 AM
I agree I dont think Superior will take 3rd, even though it would be nice if they did just to shake things up but dont think they can pick up enough wins. They have the pitching, but their lacking of hitting and scoring hurt them last year and will be their weakness again this year even though I think their offense will improve.

It will be a close race for the top 3.

Im confused Oshdude, I thought Hemstead was a senior last year? maybe you can clarify for me.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on February 08, 2009, 10:53:59 PM
Hemstead was a senior last year, but didn't pitch(injured), so he gets to be a senior again. Zielke should be the closer. He needs 8 saves to set the school record for career saves.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on February 09, 2009, 05:26:48 PM
Well I'm finally logged in and ready to join in on the fun here on the board. 

My take on the conference this year goes something like this:
1-3: the usual suspects, UWO, SP, WW.
4: Platteville

I'm going to go ahead and give the first place nod to UWO this year although it will be a toss up as it always is with the big three.  They just have too much experience and what seems to be much more depth than the other two at the top this year.  It's all going to depend on how tommy and the boys get a long and if they can win some games when it really matters...which hasn't always happened for the titans, at least not during this century.  The one thing I don't like about UWO, and really havn't been much impressed with over the past couple of years is their pitching.  Yeah Rubens is good, but the WIAC plays 4 game series...that could be their downfall this year.  Outslugging may have to be their approach, but with WW and SP in conference that may be a tall order.  UWO lineup is definitely the most stacked by comparison to the other top two teams this year, so mediocre pitching may do them just fine.

Point is finishing second for me this year.  They lost a ton of guys, almost literally their entire offensive production, but they are flying low this year with great talent that never saw much time last year, and an outstanding recruiting class.  Because of the nature of their team last year many of the younger players were limited in playing time, but they've got more experience than you might think at first glance.   Couple that with a legitimate hardthrowing transfer from MATC and arguably the best recruit in the state, and Point is going to experience much less drop off in talent than most are expecting from them.  Their pitching is certainly their strong point, which in my opinion may be the best staff in the league, WW is pretty solid too.  Nix, williams, delorit, hemi, MATC transfer, and zielke closing things out...that's solid.  Their offense will rely on very talented young players, who if perform to their potential look out!!!  They are my darkhorse team for the championship this year!

WW is certainly solid again this year returning key offensive players and the best pitcher in the league in Aaron Dott.  Their offense is going to be big again, but with the loss of Stine (shoulder surgery) and Jeff and Greg Donovan (academically ineligible/off field issues) out for the year the mighty warhawks may be flying a little closer to the ground then they had hoped coming into this year.  While they are returning many players from last year, only dott and zalnis played a key roll in their advancement.  The other returners are good players, but no body that can't be replaced by a talented freshman.  They simply aren't going to be able to out slug teams like they have in the past, and will rely on that pitching depth to keep teams in low scoring games.  I'm taking them to finish third, because I just don't see the offensive production they are going to need to be top two this year.

Platteville is my fourth ranked team this year.  They have a respectable pitching rotation and a better lineup offensively then superior and lacrosse...I would not however be surprised is Superior switched spots with them!  Superior is coming on strong and are no longer the automatic 10 run rule team (thanks to stout) but I don't see them cracking the top 4 just yet...next year if they continue to progress count them in....Eddie Morgan is a great coach.


That's the way I see the league shaking up this year...time will tell, good luck to all of them I can't wait for the first pitch of the season!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on February 09, 2009, 08:11:41 PM
Quote from: szlongball on February 08, 2009, 10:53:59 PM
Hemstead was a senior last year, but didn't pitch(injured), so he gets to be a senior again. Zielke should be the closer. He needs 8 saves to set the school record for career saves.

Thanks for some reason i thought he pitched last year, but now that I think of it dont remember him pitching at all.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: batboy on February 09, 2009, 09:55:54 PM
Glad to see the input from everybody on the top 4 teams.  My top 4 goes like this:
1.)Stevens Point
2.)Oshkosh
3.)Whitewater
4.)Superior

The first two were a toss up for me, but I went with Point for the following reason, pitching.  They have a lot of depth this year on the mound.  Their rotation will be the best in the conference hands down.  Nix and Berry will be the top two guns, both can touch 90+ on a consistant basis.  After that I'm sure Hemstead, Williams, and Delorit will fall in line.  Hemstead is a smart pitcher and knows how to get people out, having him healthy will be a big boost for the Pointers.  Williams and Delorit are both young, but had plenty of experience last year and will play a huge role for the Pointers in 09.  Zeilke will most likely remain as the closer for the fact that not everyone has the ability to play that role and he certainly proved that he can last year.  Point's line up will be very young this year, but will definately turn some heads with the talent that they have.  Fritz, Archambeau, Koback, Surman, Richter, and Spurney will definately be in the lineup, the other 3 I'm unsure.

Oshkosh will be very tough this year, they are returning everyone in their line up minus Leighton and the have Mickey Fadness coming back.  I would imagine their line up is: N. Fadness, Berg, Demmin, M. Fadness, Fosler, Wetenkamp, Kannenberg, Hiroskey, Berger.   Their offense will score runs, the question is will they be able to hold the lead.  Rubens will be the ace of course, but who do they have after him?  They will need somebody else to step up and take some innings, because Rubens was used way too much last year.

Whitewater is going to be good, but with the absense of Stine, Munn, and Jeff Donavan, they have some big shoes to fill.  Their pitching staff will be tough with Dott and Hooper, but they are also in need of some guys to step up.  On the offensive side of things, nobody is going to pitch to Zalnis so some other guys are going to have to produce.  I'm sure Whitewater will play everybody tough and who knows they might be playing for a consecutive conference championship but I just think they have one too many key players out to repeat.

I'm giving Superior the nod this year for the 4th place team and make the tourney, they deserve it and this year I think they could do it.  They are returning a lot of good ball players and should have more confidence heading into 09.  They're a well coached team with nothing to lose and are going to play everyone tough.  It should be interesting to see what they do this year.

Those are my thoughts on the 2009 WIAC Baseball season. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan20 on February 09, 2009, 09:59:45 PM
My top 4 are going to be the same as most others, UWO, WW, SP, and SUP, but that fourth spot is very open with SUP, Lax, and Plattville..

The UWO team lineup is very stacked from top to bottom.  Mickey Fadness is back and two freshman on the left side, Sabesta and Jirsh.  A solid lineup, best in the conference.  Pitching is going to be good 1-4 (Rubens, Demmin, Kannenberg, Matson/Kuepper).  A couple good freshman coming in and we will see how they handle it all.  

WW lost a few key components and if it is true about stine, they might be hurting this year.  But no doubt have the ability to go where they went last year.  DOtt will be huge, having a close year like last year.  Their pitching will have to step up big.  They will score a lot of runs, but can they hold other teams..

SP lost a huge player in Coe.  That will be a hard player to return.  Nix will be the ace and the young talent will have to prevail for them to make it far this year.  

The fourth spot will be up for grabs this year.  This spot will come down to the last game of the year, between UWO and SUP if superior can get it.  
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan20 on February 09, 2009, 10:03:17 PM
Quote from: batboy on February 09, 2009, 09:55:54 PM
Glad to see the input from everybody on the top 4 teams.  My top 4 goes like this:
1.)Stevens Point
2.)Oshkosh
3.)Whitewater
4.)Superior

The first two were a toss up for me, but I went with Point for the following reason, pitching.  They have a lot of depth this year on the mound.  Their rotation will be the best in the conference hands down.  Nix and Berry will be the top two guns, both can touch 90+ on a consistant basis.  After that I'm sure Hemstead, Williams, and Delorit will fall in line.  Hemstead is a smart pitcher and knows how to get people out, having him healthy will be a big boost for the Pointers.  Williams and Delorit are both young, but had plenty of experience last year and will play a huge role for the Pointers in 09.  Zeilke will most likely remain as the closer for the fact that not everyone has the ability to play that role and he certainly proved that he can last year.  Point's line up will be very young this year, but will definately turn some heads with the talent that they have.  Fritz, Archambeau, Koback, Surman, Richter, and Spurney will definately be in the lineup, the other 3 I'm unsure.

Oshkosh will be very tough this year, they are returning everyone in their line up minus Leighton and the have Mickey Fadness coming back.  I would imagine their line up is: N. Fadness, Berg, Demmin, M. Fadness, Fosler, Wetenkamp, Kannenberg, Hiroskey, Berger.   Their offense will score runs, the question is will they be able to hold the lead.  Rubens will be the ace of course, but who do they have after him?  They will need somebody else to step up and take some innings, because Rubens was used way too much last year.

Whitewater is going to be good, but with the absense of Stine, Munn, and Jeff Donavan, they have some big shoes to fill.  Their pitching staff will be tough with Dott and Hooper, but they are also in need of some guys to step up.  On the offensive side of things, nobody is going to pitch to Zalnis so some other guys are going to have to produce.  I'm sure Whitewater will play everybody tough and who knows they might be playing for a consecutive conference championship but I just think they have one too many key players out to repeat.

I'm giving Superior the nod this year for the 4th place team and make the tourney, they deserve it and this year I think they could do it.  They are returning a lot of good ball players and should have more confidence heading into 09.  They're a well coached team with nothing to lose and are going to play everyone tough.  It should be interesting to see what they do this year.

Those are my thoughts on the 2009 WIAC Baseball season. 
Kannenberg is now a pitcher and not a hitter.  The lineup is close but forgot sabesta and Jirsh.  Also, scout day rubens and kanny both hit 91.  Demmin hit 89.  Starting rotation will be solid but i agree the rest of the linup with have to step it up, bc those 3 cant go 9 every time. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 10, 2009, 09:29:52 AM
Quote from: Dagger on February 09, 2009, 05:26:48 PM
Their offense is going to be big again, but with the loss of Stine (shoulder surgery) and Jeff and Greg Donovan (academically ineligible/off field issues) out for the year the mighty warhawks may be flying a little closer to the ground then they had hoped coming into this year. 
How intriguing ... don't leave us hanging on the Donovans. At least it's news to me.
Good first post. Hope you newer guys stick around. Seems like we have a good mix. Should make for a good board this year. All we need are some fans of Platteville, Stout and La Crosse and we'd be set.
Speaking of, to any lurkers, please join us on the Midwest boards. We're an accepting lot. Even when my guys run over your guys at the plate, we seem to get along just fine. Or join to tell me I'm an idiot. Either way, we could use more info and opinions.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on February 10, 2009, 10:29:25 AM
That's the scoop as I heard it from a WW player, one who I would feel confident in believing.  If things have changed about them I have not heard about it, but as of last month that was the situation.  I guess Jeff put up a staggering 0.?? gpa first semester, no winterim is going to boost that up!  Greg apparently had some issues of the field and was released by VO, first time a captain has been booted down there to my knowledge.  Stine is still a mystery I guess, everyone has a different story, but I heard he was down and out for the 09 season!

"Even when my guys run over your guys at the plate, we seem to get along just fine."

I can say there was never a dull moment at Tiedeman field throughout my career...played there three times, had two bench clearing brawls, and one police escort to our team bus!  Both fights didn't need to happen and really shouldn't have happened...both times UWO was the first out of the dugout and the instigator of the incidents!  I'm certainly not complaining about it, I loved playing them and that's all part of the game, good competition is always fun and I will never forget those two series! 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 10, 2009, 02:36:16 PM
The prevailing sentiment after reading the last few comments on here is that UWO doesn't seem to have much pitching this season.  I'm not so sure I agree with that.  Take a look back at last years numbers, and you will find Ryan Demmin actually had some success against Whitewater (minus the five straight HR's) and also had mixed results against Stevens Point, (although the BOMBING Point gave him at Tiedemann is probably more fresh in people's minds.)  Mix in Kannenberg with kids like Mattson and Kuepper who both threw some BIG meaningful innings down the stretch last season and I believe you have enough talent to get the job done in the WIAC four-game series schedule.  (This isn't including any of the freshman that may have come in either.)  Now if they happen to have a couple of injuries, that may change things, but as of now, I think the Titans staff may surprise some of you.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on February 10, 2009, 04:24:16 PM
Oshkosh is just missing a solid rotation.  Mattson and Kuepper are nothing that any other team in the WIAC doesn't have.   Demmin is a solid pitcher no doubt about that, but in my opinion if he threw right handed he would not be mentioned in the top of the WIAC pitching ranks, because he's really not overpowering.  he's effective I'm not saying that he isn't, but he isn't a top tier shut down kind of guy...more of a dependable know you got a chance with him out there kind of guy.  Kannenberg switching to pitcher is lovely, but in case you're unaware throwing 90 mph in itself isn't going to get you very far.  Having never seen him pitch I can't say much else about him.  Usually converted position players that have great arms have just that, and little control and hardly any off speed pitches.  Point and WW will feast off of a 90 mph fastball, they both see that stuff on a daily basis in practice.   If he does get control and some other pitches and can stay healthy (him staying healthy is my biggest concern here, that's a lot of stress on an arm not used to pitching), then that will certainly strengthen a weak point in their team.  I still like them to win the conference this year, but Point and WW both have better rotations.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 10, 2009, 04:53:31 PM
Quote from: Dagger on February 10, 2009, 04:24:16 PM
Kannenberg switching to pitcher is lovely, but in case you're unaware throwing 90 mph in itself isn't going to get you very far.  Having never seen him pitch I can't say much else about him.  Usually converted position players that have great arms have just that, and little control and hardly any off speed pitches. 
I don't think anyone is annointing Kannenberg an ace type pitcher or anything, merely just another arm to POSSIBLY help bolster a staff that was short on arms last season.  With that being said, I think Coach Lechnir's track record in developing quality pitching speaks for itself.

Quote from: Dagger on February 10, 2009, 04:24:16 PMPoint and WW will feast off of a 90 mph fastball, they both see that stuff on a daily basis in practice.   
Really?  Where are all these guys throwing 90 mph in the spring then?  I can only think of a handful of guys that have hit 90 mph on the gun in the last few years (Zimmerman, Dott, Reinhard, Endl, and Timm) and it's sure not enough guys for the teams hitters to be seeing it "on a daily basis in practice."  I'm sure I am missing a couple, but you get my drift.  The 90 mph pitcher seems to be few and far between in the WIAC during the spring.

Quote from: Dagger on February 10, 2009, 04:24:16 PMHim staying healthy is my biggest concern here, that's a lot of stress on an arm not used to pitching.
Better have that same worry for your guy Hemstead then.  You never know what you are going to get from a pitcher coming back from surgery the previous year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanBystander on February 10, 2009, 04:57:20 PM
Quote from: OshDude on February 10, 2009, 09:29:52 AM
Quote from: Dagger on February 09, 2009, 05:26:48 PM
Their offense is going to be big again, but with the loss of Stine (shoulder surgery) and Jeff and Greg Donovan (academically ineligible/off field issues) out for the year the mighty warhawks may be flying a little closer to the ground then they had hoped coming into this year. 
How intriguing ... don't leave us hanging on the Donovans. At least it's news to me.
Good first post. Hope you newer guys stick around. Seems like we have a good mix. Should make for a good board this year. All we need are some fans of Platteville, Stout and La Crosse and we'd be set.
Speaking of, to any lurkers, please join us on the Midwest boards. We're an accepting lot. Even when my guys run over your guys at the plate, we seem to get along just fine. Or join to tell me I'm an idiot. Either way, we could use more info and opinions.

OK - I've been called out.  :D  Having been a "lurker" for the past few years, I've been impressed with the thoughtful and respectful postings of this board.  Oshdude - I'm not about to call you an idiot, but hopefully I can live up to your expectations and example.

I think it's time to jump in with both feet. 

As far as the top 4 teams in the WIAC - I would list in this order:
1.  Oshkosh - given my screenname, no one should be surprised by that. 
2.  Whitewater - any team who has won/tied for the title 7 of the past 9 years needs to be mentioned near the top. 

My heart says near the top - not AT the top.

3.  Point - Too many holes to move any higher IMO.
4.  LAX/Superior - Seeing what strides Superior has made the past 2 seasons, I wouldn't be surprised to see them get the #4 slot, but then again - it's Superior.  No offense guys (and I acknowlege the win over Oshkosh last year)  - but they still have to prove they are a real player in the WIAC before I pen them in to the tournament. 


Not to pile on the pre-season analysis, but I also believe (like Cubs mentioned) that the UW-O staff will be OK.  Mattson & Kuepper stepped up big in important games last year so they should be fine.  Kannenburg has pitched well during the Summer (granted not WIAC competition) Rubens is a flat out stud & R. Demmin could really bloom this season after spending the summer pitching in the Northwoods league.  Returning All conference performers in B. Demmin, N. Fadness, J. Fosler, K. Kannenburg, J. Rubens, R. Demmin, and D. Hirsokey along with 2007 AC performer  M. Fadness should lead to a lineup that's hard to top.  Throw in B. Burger - who lit things up late last season, and a few notable freshmen, and I think you have a conference winning crew.   

That is...If they don't throw away games against Platteville. 
Think about this, if you were to throw out one of the three losses to Platteville in 2006, and 1 ugly loss to them in 2008, the Titans would be on a 3 year conference championship winning streak. I know, IF only..., but it just shows how tight the league really is.  One unexpected loss can kill you.  Hard to believe that the conference championship may be decided April 18-19 when Platteville visits Tiedeman Field.

So, let's all hope the Sun comes out, melts the snow, and dries the fields. 

Let's Play ball!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: poly god on February 10, 2009, 05:57:15 PM
Hello to All,

Here's what I know about Points line up.

Spurney-LF
Archambeau-CF
Surman-RF
Fritz-SS
Cummings-2nd
Richter-1st
3rd-?
Catcher-?
DH-?
Freshman who will get a good shot.
Koback-of/p/dh
Kackwich-3b/dh
Schoch-1b/of/d
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan20 on February 10, 2009, 06:55:39 PM
Quote from: Dagger on February 10, 2009, 04:24:16 PM
Oshkosh is just missing a solid rotation.  Mattson and Kuepper are nothing that any other team in the WIAC doesn't have.   Demmin is a solid pitcher no doubt about that, but in my opinion if he threw right handed he would not be mentioned in the top of the WIAC pitching ranks, because he's really not overpowering.  he's effective I'm not saying that he isn't, but he isn't a top tier shut down kind of guy...more of a dependable know you got a chance with him out there kind of guy.  Kannenberg switching to pitcher is lovely, but in case you're unaware throwing 90 mph in itself isn't going to get you very far.  Having never seen him pitch I can't say much else about him.  Usually converted position players that have great arms have just that, and little control and hardly any off speed pitches.  Point and WW will feast off of a 90 mph fastball, they both see that stuff on a daily basis in practice.   If he does get control and some other pitches and can stay healthy (him staying healthy is my biggest concern here, that's a lot of stress on an arm not used to pitching), then that will certainly strengthen a weak point in their team.  I still like them to win the conference this year, but Point and WW both have better rotations.
Kannenberg has good stuff to back up his fastball.  Granted he will have to stay healty but who doesnt for their team to do well.  And having 2 pitchers at 91 (Ruben, Kanny), 1 and 89 (demmin) is pretty solid.  not to many teams see a 90+ on a "daily basis".  Unless zimmerman or someother pro is coming back and those daily for that team.  Everyone is worried about the rotation, but it will be just as good, if not better than everyone esles, IF everyone stays healthy.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on February 11, 2009, 09:56:03 AM
ok, so poor choice of words on my part....they see 90 mph on a weekly basis!  I'm not saying oshkosh has a bad rotation, I just dont think they are stronger or more experienced then the rotations at WW and Point.   I'm also saying that being able to throw hard doesn't mean you're going to help out your team, you need to be able to pitch...and that's not a shot at UWO's rotation saying they can't pitch...I'm just saying that velocity is great but not enough to live on in this conference!  Remember in my previous posts, that I have UWO pegged as my favorite to win conference this year!  They are simply too deep across the board for even a mediocre staff to affect them, and I certainly think their staff is above mediocre.  IMO they have the third best staff and by far the best offensive lineup hands down.  As for kannenberg staying healthy, it's not easy to switch from position player to pitcher...having done so myself and then sitting out for a year with an arm injury...it really takes a toll on your arm if you're not used to it.  Who knows what Hemi is going to do this year, he could be great like he was or he could fall apart, physically and mentally and be terrible...time will tell.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on February 11, 2009, 10:01:36 AM
Quote from: poly god on February 10, 2009, 05:57:15 PM
Hello to All,

Here's what I know about Points line up.

Spurney-LF
Archambeau-CF
Surman-RF
Fritz-SS
Cummings-2nd
Richter-1st
3rd-?
Catcher-?
DH-?
Freshman who will get a good shot.
Koback-of/p/dh
Kackwich-3b/dh
Schoch-1b/of/d

Corrections:

kackwich at third
koback in CF
Surman in LF
and Arch in RF
spurney DH
bloom/?? splitting at C

that how it stands for now as I understand it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 11, 2009, 10:19:21 AM
Welcome, new posters! Karma all around. Anyone else out there?
As far as the UWO staff goes, count me as one who likes it. Maybe not as good as Point's because of the experience factor, but I don't think Whitewater's is any better. I really like Evan Matson, and Perle and Kuepper can provide quality innings. However, I hope Kanny developed some movement on his FB and Ryno gives up fewer big innings. Oh, and I hope Rube is Rube this year.

Who are the UWO frosh in the pitching mix? Buchkowski? Westphal? Huebner? The others?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan20 on February 11, 2009, 12:44:33 PM
Quote from: OshDude on February 11, 2009, 10:19:21 AM
Welcome, new posters! Karma all around. Anyone else out there?
As far as the UWO staff goes, count me as one who likes it. Maybe not as good as Point's because of the experience factor, but I don't think Whitewater's is any better. I really like Evan Matson, and Perle and Kuepper can provide quality innings. However, I hope Kanny developed some movement on his FB and Ryno gives up fewer big innings. Oh, and I hope Rube is Rube this year.

Who are the UWO frosh in the pitching mix? Buchkowski? Westphal? Huebner? The others?

First of all dagger-i dont want o stir up any bad blood between us, and im not staying UWO is perfect just good, and will put up good number this year in the rotation, only time will tell whose the best and whose jus alright. 
As for oshdude and wanting to know about the freshman in the rotation...First, perle (the would be senior) has transfered schools and is no longer a Titan.  As for the fresh- Troy Mirvika looked good, however he is  another position player switch and the other big fresh name is Brandon Lenz.  He looked good as well, both throw about 87-85, so decent.  Thats about all i no about it so far.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on February 11, 2009, 04:11:13 PM
There's no bad blood being stirred right now in my eyes...I'm just here to discuss.  I have a great deal of respect for Oshkosh and their history, as well as all the other schools in the WIAC!  I played in it and I understand all that comes with it, I had good years and bad years.  I'm not trying to cut anybody down, never was nor will be my intention...I appreciate good conversations with differing opinions.  I just don't UWO has much other than rubens and demmin...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dukes on February 11, 2009, 05:42:15 PM
Yes, yes, friends all around. Regarding the point of switching positions I agree it can be difficult, but a lot of it depends on which position you are switching from and their overall conditioning. I have seen it many times were a guy used to be an position player and is used to throwing every day a similar amount, then has to adjust that for specific outings. In my opinion the difficult thing for everyone at the start of the year is the feel factor, meaning it is less to do about arm strength or even mechanics and more to do with release point on off speed pitches. Any decent to good pitcher should be able to go out on any given day and throw fastballs for strikes, but the differences comes when they need to polish their offspeed for the good hitting teams. This is were I believe most two way guys, or pitcher converts seem to lack. And I agree velocity isnt everything, but for every guy Nolan Ryan there is a Greg Maddux.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: batboy on February 11, 2009, 06:08:01 PM
For the Titan followers: Is Mickey Fadness going to strictly 2b, or will he be doing some catching as well?  Whats the deal with Sebesta and Jirshley? Where are they going to be playing? I know Sebesta is a solid hitter, but is his defense good enough for the college level?  Other sources say he may play a big role just being the DH.  As for Kannenberg switching roles, I don't think injury will be a problem being that he has known about switching roles and will have his arm in shape by the time the season starts.  The bigger problem is knowing how to get college hitters out.  Looks like UWO has a pretty tough Florida schedule, St. Thomas 4 times!!! and St. Olaf twice...I guess they'll have the MIAC scouted for regionals then, pending how the season pans out.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 11, 2009, 08:44:20 PM
Quote from: batboy on February 11, 2009, 06:08:01 PM
For the Titan followers: Is Mickey Fadness going to strictly 2b, or will he be doing some catching as well?  Whats the deal with Sebesta and Jirshley? Where are they going to be playing? I know Sebesta is a solid hitter, but is his defense good enough for the college level?  Other sources say he may play a big role just being the DH. 
Everything I have heard up to this point is that if UWO had a game tomorrow, Sebesta would be the starting 3B, Jirschele SS, and M. Fadness 2B.  I guess we will find out for sure in a little over a month.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on February 11, 2009, 11:05:23 PM
I spoke to the owner of the Tilted Kilt in Stevens Point and he stated he built the establishment primarily in an attempt to get Whitewater baseball players there for the big series in April hoping they would bring some of the girls up to their rooms and get suspended and give Point some cheap W'S like they received last year in Whitewater. 

Anyone know whose playing 2nd, 1B, and C for Point?  What about former SPASH standout Chris Hoerter playing 2nd?  What happened to Point pitcher Lucas Hoeschele?  He was a junior lefty last year who showed some great potential other than the Oshkosh game.  Someone told me he had a professional soccer tryout but I have a hard time believing that.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: batboy on February 12, 2009, 08:25:16 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 11, 2009, 11:05:23 PM
I spoke to the owner of the Tilted Kilt in Stevens Point and he stated he built the establishment primarily in an attempt to get Whitewater baseball players there for the big series in April hoping they would bring some of the girls up to their rooms and get suspended and give Point some cheap W'S like they received last year in Whitewater. 

Anyone know whose playing 2nd, 1B, and C for Point?  What about former SPASH standout Chris Hoerter playing 2nd?  What happened to Point pitcher Lucas Hoeschele?  He was a junior lefty last year who showed some great potential other than the Oshkosh game.  Someone told me he had a professional soccer tryout but I have a hard time believing that.

Iverson and Cummings are battling it out for 2nd. Jeremy Richter is at 1st, and Catcher could be anybody at this point.  As far as the Tilted Kilt goes, I don't think that any of the girls there would be worth taking home.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 12, 2009, 10:28:20 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 11, 2009, 11:05:23 PM
I spoke to the owner of the Tilted Kilt in Stevens Point and he stated he built the establishment primarily in an attempt to get Whitewater baseball players there for the big series in April hoping they would bring some of the girls up to their rooms and get suspended and give Point some cheap W'S like they received last year in Whitewater. 

Anyone know whose playing 2nd, 1B, and C for Point?  What about former SPASH standout Chris Hoerter playing 2nd?  What happened to Point pitcher Lucas Hoeschele?  He was a junior lefty last year who showed some great potential other than the Oshkosh game.  Someone told me he had a professional soccer tryout but I have a hard time believing that.
There's one opening in Oshkosh. Not sure if it will be done before the season is over. Stay classy, Titans. No suspensions please.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on February 12, 2009, 10:35:59 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 11, 2009, 11:05:23 PM
I spoke to the owner of the Tilted Kilt in Stevens Point and he stated he built the establishment primarily in an attempt to get Whitewater baseball players there for the big series in April hoping they would bring some of the girls up to their rooms and get suspended and give Point some cheap W'S like they received last year in Whitewater. 


LMAO    That whole incident was pretty funny.

I watched the BADGERS men's hockey team win the NCAA Championship at the Tilted Kilt in Phoenix, Az.  It was tough to keep my eyes on the game. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on February 12, 2009, 11:45:18 AM
If point had a game tomorrow it would be richter at first, cummings at 2nd and bloom behind the dish.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 12, 2009, 11:59:57 AM
Well it's official....  The WIAC Tournament is going back to being hosted by the regaular season champion starting this season. 

Also, it is being propsed that the #1 and #2 seeds will have to be beaten twice to be eliminated, whereas the #3 and #4 seeds will be out after their first loss.  It makes the regualr season, all the more important now!!

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/statecolleges.html
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on February 12, 2009, 01:03:30 PM
Interesting format.  So essentially it's eliminating Game 1 and Game 2 and starting in the second round with the #3 and #4 seeds already in the "loser's bracket".

The best part is that since the tournament is now only 4 or 5 games long, there no need to make that loser's bracket team try to win three 9-inning games in the same day.  I don't know for sure, but I'm assuming it goes like this.

Friday
Game 1 - #1 seed vs. #2 seed
Game 2 - #3 seed vs. #4 seed (loser emliminated)
Game 3 - Game 1 loser vs. Game 2 winner (loser eliminated)

Saturday
Game 4 - Game 1 winner vs. Game 3 winner (First Championship game)
Game 5 - Rematch, if necessary (Second Championship game)

Certainly puts a premium on getting the top two seeds!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 12, 2009, 01:25:48 PM
This set-up really puts a premium on the WIAC regular season. Winning the #1 vs #2 seed game just about wraps it up as the loser would have to win three straight games to advance.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: batboy on February 12, 2009, 01:40:29 PM
I think that this new conference tournament rule is terrible! That's like saying the wild card teams in the MLB only have to get beat twice.  Its wrong.  What is the point of having a tournament if everyone isn't on the same playing field?  They should take this rule out, because it's taking away from the excitement of tournament play.  Look what Stevens Point did in 2006, they were the 4th seed, lost their first game to WW, then won the tournament and advanced to the World Series.  If this rule stands, which it shouldn't, it won't be around very long!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on February 12, 2009, 02:50:30 PM
I like the fact that the winner of the conference gets to host, you need something to reward the guys that win conference.  People were getting upset because it was always at UWO or WW with a SP mixed in here and there...but tough luck.  I don't like the format of the tournament though, that just makes it really unfair for the 3 and 4 seeds.  I see them doing this almost to ensure that the team that wins or takes 2 in the conference gets the automatic bid!  That's terrible...if the those top two teams deserve to play on and can handle the pressure of big games then they should have no problem moving on in the tournament fair and square.  the wiac only sends the top 4 teams to the tournament anyway so even if the 4 seed won the tournament and got the automatic bid they would still be able to compete in a regional.  I don't understand the rationale behind this new format, it needs to go!  I do like the conference champs hosting though!  We'll get it figured out sooner or later...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan20 on February 12, 2009, 05:28:40 PM
I also like the champion team hosting.  i think that is one of the biggest advantages of winning the conference now.  i agree it is unfair as well to the 3 and 4, but i like the overall new idea. 

as for oshkosh, mickey will most likely only play 2nd, depending on his arm and if it gets better...and how fast.  as for sebesta, his defense will be the key.  Either him or Blake will be DH.  If sebestas defense is good enough, then he will be at 3rd and blake at dh.  If he cant play good defense, then he will dh with blake in left field.  That is what i think will happen.  Line up has many different options so should be interesting. 
top 4 pitching-rubens, demmin, kanny, matson/kuepper
1-9 BA-N. Fadness, M. Fadness, B. Demmin, B. Berger, J. Fosler, Jirsh, Sebesta, p. Berg, D. Hirosky
possible others, b. wetencamp, m. wapoose, and a couple freshman all are in the mix.
If UWO played a game tomorrow, i think that would be the lineup.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: batboy on February 12, 2009, 06:05:31 PM
Thanks for the update Titan20. 

Stevens Point apparently has 3 possible starters at 3rd base; Brent Kakwitch, Josh Krueger, and Kevin Thomas (who is now strictly a position player).  As for catcher, it will most likely be Considine and Bloom splitting time to start the season, but that could change. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on February 12, 2009, 08:15:43 PM
Quote from: cubs on February 12, 2009, 11:59:57 AM

Also, it is being propsed that the #1 and #2 seeds will have to be beaten twice to be eliminated, whereas the #3 and #4 seeds will be out after their first loss.  It makes the regualr season, all the more important now!!



Well hopefully whoever is trying to make this decision isnt on the NCAA committee because they would probably like to bring back 7 team regionals too.

Wouldnt be surprised if Oshkosh, Point, and Whitewater are behind this to give them an advantage in the playoffs--just an outside perspective
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: poly god on February 12, 2009, 11:45:47 PM
From what I seen this fall, Points' areas of concern are the infield and behind the plate. Whoever can hit is gonna play. Pitching should be solid.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 13, 2009, 05:12:38 AM
Finally back at a campus field? Sweet! I understand how the monetary end of things made Rapids attractive, but as fans we often don't care – maybe to a fault. I hope the WIAC can somehow make up the cash difference and make this a lasting change. I'm sure it was a tough decision for many considering what I assume is a tiny budget (relatively speaking) for baseball. But I think the loss of those windfall dollars is well worth the sense it makes in competitive terms. Kudos to Karner for allowing the change.

In a related note, Lechnir, one of the proponents of the tournament change, will be inducted (http://www.titans.uwosh.edu/Baseball/) into the Wisconsin Baseball Coaches Association Hall of Fame this weekend. Lechnir joins fellow Titan coach Russ Tiedemann in the WBCA HOF. Congrats, coach!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on February 13, 2009, 09:26:38 AM


Well hopefully whoever is trying to make this decision isnt on the NCAA committee because they would probably like to bring back 7 team regionals too.

Wouldnt be surprised if Oshkosh, Point, and Whitewater are behind this to give them an advantage in the playoffs--just an outside perspective
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I'm not sure if you've noticed over the past 7 years or so or not, but the WIAC doesn't seem to need any advantages in the playoffs to get a team to the series!  That is ridiculous to think that is the driving force behind it, not to mention the coaches don't have anything to say about the format of the tourney.  Bloom is on the midwest selection committee, I believe he's the only WIAC coach in such a position but I could be wrong.  But even so that has nothing to do with how the rounds will be played, just who is playing. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on February 13, 2009, 09:39:13 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on February 12, 2009, 01:25:48 PM
This set-up really puts a premium on the WIAC regular season. Winning the #1 vs #2 seed game just about wraps it up as the loser would have to win three straight games to advance.
True, but at least they don't have to win three straight games on the same day.  In the past to come from the losers bracket meant playing two games on Friday and then winning three in a row on Saturday. I don't think that's any more fair than this setup.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanBystander on February 13, 2009, 09:43:05 AM
I'm probably in the minority with my opinion on this subject, but I'm OK with the tournament format change.  I've always believed in season championships being more important and higher prestige than tournament championships.  IMO the "best team" is that team which does it over the long haul.  Tournament championships reward the "hot team".  I hold teams that win consistently over a number of games in higher regard.  My opinion only.    

First (The easy one) allowing the regular season champ to host the tournement on campus is a great idea.  As stated before, I believe the regular season champ deserves something and hosting is a big deal.  It sure is a better idea more holding the tournament at a "neutral" site like Rapids.  FYI - you'll never convince me that Point didn't have a distinct advantage when Rapids hosted.  You can argue all you want, but I'll just point out that despite not winning a regular season title, Point goes 4 for 4 in the tournament when hosted in Rapids.  Again - the "hot team" gets the rewards & the "Best team" gets the shaft.  Just ask the '06 Whitewater team how they felt about staying home during the regional despite winning the regular season championship.  

I'm also OK with the format change.  We all know the rules before the season starts so if you want the benefit of not having the "1 & done" noose around your neck, then you have to win or place second in the regular season.  Rewarding teams for their consistent play and depth during the regular season is not a bad thing.  I mention depth because the format of the WIAC regular season (4 game weekends) tends to favor teams who are deep - particularly in the pitching staff.  Again - I consider these to be the best "teams".    Tournaments can be dominated by teams that have a couple of stud pitchers which really doesn't (IMO) demonstrate team depth.      

So...Fire away.  These are my opinions and by the way - they won't change even if Oshkosh is saddled with the "1 & Done" rule.  Get it done all season long & things will work themselves out.  
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on February 13, 2009, 10:16:01 AM
Quote from: BaseballFan on February 12, 2009, 08:15:43 PM

Wouldnt be surprised if Oshkosh, Point, and Whitewater are behind this to give them an advantage in the playoffs--just an outside perspective


Too funny.  Did you see the shooter behind the grassy knoll?  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: batboy on February 13, 2009, 10:21:47 AM
Quote from: TitanBystander on February 13, 2009, 09:43:05 AM
I'm probably in the minority with my opinion on this subject, but I'm OK with the tournament format change.  I've always believed in season championships being more important and higher prestige than tournament championships.  IMO the "best team" is that team which does it over the long haul.  Tournament championships reward the "hot team".  I hold teams that win consistently over a number of games in higher regard.  My opinion only.    

First (The easy one) allowing the regular season champ to host the tournement on campus is a great idea.  As stated before, I believe the regular season champ deserves something and hosting is a big deal.  It sure is a better idea more holding the tournament at a "neutral" site like Rapids.  FYI - you'll never convince me that Point didn't have a distinct advantage when Rapids hosted.  You can argue all you want, but I'll just point out that despite not winning a regular season title, Point goes 4 for 4 in the tournament when hosted in Rapids.  Again - the "hot team" gets the rewards & the "Best team" gets the shaft.  Just ask the '06 Whitewater team how they felt about staying home during the regional despite winning the regular season championship.  

I'm also OK with the format change.  We all know the rules before the season starts so if you want the benefit of not having the "1 & done" noose around your neck, then you have to win or place second in the regular season.  Rewarding teams for their consistent play and depth during the regular season is not a bad thing.  I mention depth because the format of the WIAC regular season (4 game weekends) tends to favor teams who are deep - particularly in the pitching staff.  Again - I consider these to be the best "teams".    Tournaments can be dominated by teams that have a couple of stud pitchers which really doesn't (IMO) demonstrate team depth.      

So...Fire away.  These are my opinions and by the way - they won't change even if Oshkosh is saddled with the "1 & Done" rule.  Get it done all season long & things will work themselves out.  
Well I guess I'll be the first to disagree with you about your opinion.  So you're saying that the team that finishes best in the MLB after 162 games is the best.  Do you forget that there are injuries in sports? And sometimes throughout the course of a grueling WIAC baseball season, sometimes teams can't put their best team on the field. And how can you say winning the tournament doesn't involve depth? You use the 2006 Whitewater team as an example of a team that should've been in the regional because they won the regular season, but Stevens Point came back through the losers bracket and beat them twice in the championship to advance.  You're telling me depth has nothing to do with that?  And if the tournament being in Rapids is the sole reason for Stevens Point winning the tournament, then how do you explain the two world series appearances and being the regional the runner up to National Champion UWW in 2005.  No I think Point was just a good baseball team. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on February 13, 2009, 11:52:03 AM
I will certainly not argue the fact that witter field had a certain magical effect for point, but what many outside fans don't understand is why point consistently comes up with the needed effort to win big games...That reason is by far, not even a comparison to be found in the conference, is their spring schedule!  This is the first year that point is laying low and playing average teams on their break.  The reason why WW didn't make it as an at large team in 06 is in part due to playing a weak schedule!  They had a great record, but their competition was mediocre at best.  Points games over the past couple of spring trips include double headers against Rowan, Otterbein, Wooster, st thomas, st scholastica, ohio wesleyan, and several others that have been ranked or darn close to being ranked.  Those are top 10 teams every year, and they play them, and they play them close if not beating them.  Yeah their records are not that great come the end of the year, but their experience in playing outstanding teams all year long undoubtedly prepares them for the stress of the post season games.  The other teams that don't test themselves and just pad numbers and chalk up W's can't handle the pressure and fall to the more weathered team that is Point.  At large bids are voted on by the whole region not one person or conference, so obviously the 06 WW team wasn't all that impressive!  You can say what you want about other team's schedules but this is the first year that point doesn't have the toughest schedule by twice as many times the next closest team!  Competition throughout the year is the reason point succeeds at the later dates, and in my opinion is why the other teams who rely on power lineups and pitching dont!  If they get in a tight game they can't handle the pressure because they havn't seen it yet in the year...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan20 on February 13, 2009, 01:35:45 PM
Quote from: Dagger on February 13, 2009, 11:52:03 AM
I will certainly not argue the fact that witter field had a certain magical effect for point, but what many outside fans don't understand is why point consistently comes up with the needed effort to win big games...That reason is by far, not even a comparison to be found in the conference, is their spring schedule!  This is the first year that point is laying low and playing average teams on their break.  The reason why WW didn't make it as an at large team in 06 is in part due to playing a weak schedule!  They had a great record, but their competition was mediocre at best.  Points games over the past couple of spring trips include double headers against Rowan, Otterbein, Wooster, st thomas, st scholastica, ohio wesleyan, and several others that have been ranked or darn close to being ranked.  Those are top 10 teams every year, and they play them, and they play them close if not beating them.  Yeah their records are not that great come the end of the year, but their experience in playing outstanding teams all year long undoubtedly prepares them for the stress of the post season games.  The other teams that don't test themselves and just pad numbers and chalk up W's can't handle the pressure and fall to the more weathered team that is Point.  At large bids are voted on by the whole region not one person or conference, so obviously the 06 WW team wasn't all that impressive!  You can say what you want about other team's schedules but this is the first year that point doesn't have the toughest schedule by twice as many times the next closest team!  Competition throughout the year is the reason point succeeds at the later dates, and in my opinion is why the other teams who rely on power lineups and pitching dont!  If they get in a tight game they can't handle the pressure because they havn't seen it yet in the year...
I am not going to deny they played some very good teams but UWO played thomas and St. S in the dome last year.  They play the same teams in the regular season, but i wouldnt say its 2x as hard as others...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on February 13, 2009, 02:12:38 PM
I guess I lost my point in all my nonsense rambling...I'm just saying that those tough games early in the year condition point for the brutal battles of the post season.  And when you only play so many out of conference games, and half of them are against ranked teams (highly ranked for the most part) you have a significantly harder schedule than the others in the conference who don't go after these big opponents.   I think that's a big part in points postseason successes.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: batboy on February 13, 2009, 02:49:42 PM
Quote from: Dagger on February 13, 2009, 02:12:38 PM
I guess I lost my point in all my nonsense rambling...I'm just saying that those tough games early in the year condition point for the brutal battles of the post season.  And when you only play so many out of conference games, and half of them are against ranked teams (highly ranked for the most part) you have a significantly harder schedule than the others in the conference who don't go after these big opponents.   I think that's a big part in points postseason successes.
I fully agree with this concept.  Playing tough competition in early part of the season prepares you for the tough competition that you'll see in the post season. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on February 13, 2009, 04:07:56 PM
Quote from: Dagger on February 13, 2009, 09:26:38 AM


Well hopefully whoever is trying to make this decision isnt on the NCAA committee because they would probably like to bring back 7 team regionals too.

Wouldnt be surprised if Oshkosh, Point, and Whitewater are behind this to give them an advantage in the playoffs (WIAC playoffs)--just an outside perspective


I'm not sure if you've noticed over the past 7 years or so or not, but the WIAC doesn't seem to need any advantages in the playoffs to get a team to the series!  That is ridiculous to think that is the driving force behind it, not to mention the coaches don't have anything to say about the format of the tourney.  Bloom is on the midwest selection committee, I believe he's the only WIAC coach in such a position but I could be wrong.  But even so that has nothing to do with how the rounds will be played, just who is playing. 
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You misunderstood what I was saying, i was only talking about the wiac tourney...and the comment about a 7 team regional was a joke, only ripping on the wiac for even thinking about it changing their format. Changing the format would be comparable to how bad a 7 team regional was. It was all a joke so  ;D

But my real opinion would be  that its still a stupid idea because Osh, Point, WW, will be the top 3 for a couple years and will always have a chance at making the NCAA tourney either with an A or C bid like last year. The #4 team most likely will need to win the tourney and would have to go 4-0 probably to make the NCAA tourney. Pretty hard for any WIAC team to go 4-0 especially when you are the 4th seed

The end of the season tourney is suppose to give 4 teams a chance well in this case it would only give 2 teams to win the conference tourney. If you finish first in the regular season you are probably going to get a C bid.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan20 on February 15, 2009, 06:04:56 PM
Does anyone know for sure who is all not going to play this year for WW due to injury or grades or whatever else people were saying?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanBystander on February 16, 2009, 09:28:24 AM
Quote from: batboy on February 13, 2009, 10:21:47 AM
So you're saying that the team that finishes best in the MLB after 162 games is the best. 

In a word - Yes, but let me explain....

MLB offers the best format for identifying the best team during their post season because of the 7 game series format.  I a series of that length, I assert that the best team usually rises to the top.  One could argue that the "hot team" can also rise up - I agree, but a 7 game series also gives that "hot team" a chance to come back to earth as well. 

In this age where we crave instant gratification, tournaments like the NCAA hoops many times do not crown their true best teams as champion.  Don't get me wrong, I love the intensity and underdog wins durnig the 1 & done tournament format, but I would forever argue that the best team doesn't always - and usually doesn't - win it all. 

The new WIAC tournament format is rewarding the two best teams (over the long haul) and I'm OK with that. 

On a side note, I wish the admins for the D3Baseball site would quit posting write ups about games already being played...It makes it too hard to wait until the middle of March to watch the WIAC get going.     :(
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dukes on February 16, 2009, 11:13:52 PM
To play devils advocate....what defines best team?

Is it the team with the most talent? (they dont always win). Is it the team that is the most consistent? (they dont always have enough talent) is it the team that stays healthy? (they might not even be good). Is it the team that the coaches vote as being the best team? (that is always biased). Is it the team that can win the big games? (maybe they are just lucky) I am not sure which, and surely it is a combination of these.

You use the MLB as an example of a way to get to the "best" team. What about the Rockies run from a few years ago? They were barely a good team, but they got hot. Maybe the best team is just the one that can have everything in place to get hot and stay hot at the right time.

So maybe the "best" team doesnt always win the championship by your standards, but in the end if you win the championship, you did something that no one else was able to do. To me that justifies being called the best team. And the nice thing about baseball, when you play a team, there is no time limit, no inning rule, no shoot out. You play until one team wins, and one loses. The winner, is the best on that day and thats good enough for me.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 16, 2009, 11:33:37 PM
Quote from: TitanBystander on February 16, 2009, 09:28:24 AM
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On a side note, I wish the admins for the D3Baseball site would quit posting write ups about games already being played...It makes it too hard to wait until the middle of March to watch the WIAC get going.     :(

;D
Let's play two!  ;)

The ASC has already had some good action down here!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on February 17, 2009, 10:24:41 AM
I think that a double elimination tournament produces a fair representative of the best team from any of the regionals.   A lot goes into winning a 6 team double elimination tournament, much more then simply being hot at the right time.  You have to have luck, mental strength, skill, smarts, confidence among other things to come out on top.  Simply being hot will not push you through to the next round, unless you are a better team then what people think.  Records mean nothing to me come postseason.  Some teams play terrible schedules and rack up 40 W's while others play incredibly tough schedules and win 30-35 games.  So is beating a bad team by one run make that team better then a team that loses to a highly ranked team by 1 in extra innings?  I don't think so, although they have more wins and thus more confidence I don't think they are a better team.  Tournament time brings out the true colors of teams and what they're really made of.  If a supposedly good team chokes and loses the tournament then they don't deserve to move on, because if you're clearly the best team then you will win.  How many times in the recent past has a mediocre team represented the WIAC or the midwest region in a tournament?   I can't remember one...maybe lakeland 7 years ago (or sometime around then). 

Oshkosh has been plagued with post season failures for a while after a dominating run, WW puts up huge numbers and W totals but having participated in that, I can tell you that it's not all that impressive if you see the teams they are playing!  Point is always middle of the pack as far as wins are concerned, but they play a tough schedule.  Any of those three will typically split with each other during a year, and whichever one can take 3 of 4 or sweep the other will win conference is basically how the WIAC pans out.  But the point I guess is that any of those three teams representing the conference in the Regional is a good team, and the 'best' team at that point to move on.

Having the most wins or the biggest and most talented players does not make you the best team!  There are tons of intangibles that can lift a team and make them rise to the top when needed, and the lack of those things can also sink a good team when they are faced with adversity.  Think of WW in '06...they were a very good team according to their win numbers, but all they had to do was beat point once to move on and they couldn't!  That's not a good team.  A good team wins the games that they absolutely have to.  WW got into some tough games, which they hadn't seen yet all year other then in conference Point UWO matchups, and they didn't know how to react to the pressures and they folded.  I'm not taking anything away from WW, I have a great deal of respect for that program and their successes, that's just my opinion on a possible reason why the "best" team went home. 

You could talk all year long about things that identify a 'best' team and what makes them better from any other team...in my eyes the team that hoists the trophy at the end of the year is the best team in the country.  I've been through regionals five years (including a transfer year) and been a part of four world series teams...the best team wins period!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: batboy on February 17, 2009, 12:41:52 PM
Quote from: Dagger on February 17, 2009, 10:24:41 AM
I think that a double elimination tournament produces a fair representative of the best team from any of the regionals.   A lot goes into winning a 6 team double elimination tournament, much more then simply being hot at the right time.  You have to have luck, mental strength, skill, smarts, confidence among other things to come out on top.  Simply being hot will not push you through to the next round, unless you are a better team then what people think.  Records mean nothing to me come postseason.  Some teams play terrible schedules and rack up 40 W's while others play incredibly tough schedules and win 30-35 games.  So is beating a bad team by one run make that team better then a team that loses to a highly ranked team by 1 in extra innings?  I don't think so, although they have more wins and thus more confidence I don't think they are a better team.  Tournament time brings out the true colors of teams and what they're really made of.  If a supposedly good team chokes and loses the tournament then they don't deserve to move on, because if you're clearly the best team then you will win.  How many times in the recent past has a mediocre team represented the WIAC or the midwest region in a tournament?   I can't remember one...maybe lakeland 7 years ago (or sometime around then). 

Oshkosh has been plagued with post season failures for a while after a dominating run, WW puts up huge numbers and W totals but having participated in that, I can tell you that it's not all that impressive if you see the teams they are playing!  Point is always middle of the pack as far as wins are concerned, but they play a tough schedule.  Any of those three will typically split with each other during a year, and whichever one can take 3 of 4 or sweep the other will win conference is basically how the WIAC pans out.  But the point I guess is that any of those three teams representing the conference in the Regional is a good team, and the 'best' team at that point to move on.

Having the most wins or the biggest and most talented players does not make you the best team!  There are tons of intangibles that can lift a team and make them rise to the top when needed, and the lack of those things can also sink a good team when they are faced with adversity.  Think of WW in '06...they were a very good team according to their win numbers, but all they had to do was beat point once to move on and they couldn't!  That's not a good team.  A good team wins the games that they absolutely have to.  WW got into some tough games, which they hadn't seen yet all year other then in conference Point UWO matchups, and they didn't know how to react to the pressures and they folded.  I'm not taking anything away from WW, I have a great deal of respect for that program and their successes, that's just my opinion on a possible reason why the "best" team went home. 

You could talk all year long about things that identify a 'best' team and what makes them better from any other team...in my eyes the team that hoists the trophy at the end of the year is the best team in the country.  I've been through regionals five years (including a transfer year) and been a part of four world series teams...the best team wins period!

In response and agreement to this; being apart of 2 world series teams, 4 WIAC tourney championships and going through tough battles in tournament play, I can agree that the best teams always find ways to win.  You have to be resilient and have the mental toughness to overcome adversity. 
I still and will always believe that tournament play is the only way to decide who the best team is, and there should be no advantage to teams who finish better in the regular season.  Look at the Division 1 NCAA football, that is the way some of you think the best team in the nation should be decided, throughout the regular season.  You're telling me that USC shouldn't have had a chance to play for the National Title last year, give me a break.  Everyone in the country disagrees with the way Division 1 football's post-season is ran, because everyone knows that the best teams are the one's that step up and get it done when the pressure is on.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 18, 2009, 02:20:40 PM
Quote from: Dagger on February 17, 2009, 10:24:41 AM
I've been through regionals five years (including a transfer year) and been a part of four world series teams...the best team wins period!
I'm going to politely disagree!!!!   :)

All I'm going to say is 1999, and leave it at that......
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on February 18, 2009, 06:06:50 PM
Quote from: cubs on February 18, 2009, 02:20:40 PM
Quote from: Dagger on February 17, 2009, 10:24:41 AM
I've been through regionals five years (including a transfer year) and been a part of four world series teams...the best team wins period!
I'm going to politely disagree!!!!   :)

All I'm going to say is 1999, and leave it at that......

That is a sore subject. But a great regional. There probably weren't 4 better teams in the country that year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 21, 2009, 07:51:06 AM
La Crosse is the first team with a posted roster (http://perth.uwlax.edu/Athletics/mbaseball/roster/). Nice freshman class, including a few all-state and all-district guys highlighted by first-team 3B Jay Fanta (http://wisconsinpreps.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=818935). Good get for the Eagles.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on February 22, 2009, 02:44:31 PM
I think this is one of the most intriguing pre-seasons for the WIAC!  There's a lot of parity in the league this year, and although I feel the three top dogs will remain the same for a while to come yet, their order will certainly rotate from year to year.  The fourth spot is the real exciting part this year...I feel lax, platteville and superior all have a an equal shot at grabbing that last spot.  All of those teams are very different in their strengths and style of play, but they are all very capable of winning some close games.  Going to be very interesting to see how things pan out this year for those three.  There has been a pretty good mix over the past few seasons with teams grabbing that fourth playoff spot in the tourny which is nice to see, and good for the conference also.  superior will now take stouts spot as a contender for that 4th seed as I don't figure stout to compete well in conference this year...could be wrong though, don't know much about them actually but they have seen a significant decline in talent over the past three or four seasons.  Anyone know anything on recruits that they have brought in, or how they are looking this year?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on February 23, 2009, 03:55:25 PM
WHITEWATER has posted it's 2009 roster.  In addition to the graduating seniors neither Greg nor Tom Donovan, Jordan Stine, Brett Adamson, Joe Munn, Bryant Ganser, Steve Hedgepath and Kevin Harves are on it.

New faces include pitchers Kyle Lee (Beaver Dam), Eric Schmitz (Fond du Lac) and Tony Wong (Appleton North); infielders Adam Francor (Wausaukee), Travis Wessles (Tomah) and Ryan Leavitt (Merrill) and catchers Rob Coe (Appleton North) and Brandon Egnarski (Watertown).

http://www.uwwsports.com/roster.asp?path=baseball

The WARHAWKS open play Thursday vs. St Marys (Mn) in the Metrodome.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on February 23, 2009, 04:21:24 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on February 23, 2009, 03:55:25 PM
WHITEWATER has posted it's 2009 roster.  In addition to the graduating seniors neither Greg nor Tom Donovan, Jordan Stine, Brett Adamson, Joe Munn, Bryant Ganser, Steve Hedgepath and Kevin Harves are on it.

New faces include pitchers Kyle Lee (Beaver Dam), Eric Schmitz (Fond du Lac) and Tony Wong (Appleton North); infielders Adam Francor (Wausaukee), Travis Wessles (Tomah) and Ryan Leavitt (Merrill) and catchers Rob Coe (Appleton North) and Brandon Egnarski (Watertown).

http://www.uwwsports.com/roster.asp?path=baseball

The WARHAWKS open play Thursday vs. St Marys (Mn) in the Metrodome.

No Stine or Munn is disturbing...that is 2/3 of the starting outfield from a year ago
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on February 23, 2009, 04:39:37 PM
Rob Coe appears to be Doug's brother and a transfer from Point....I hope the talent transfers from Doug to Rob!

Tony Wong returns to the Warhawks after not playing in 2008
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on February 23, 2009, 05:02:25 PM
Adamson will be missed in the outfield as well. 

Thanks, I was wondering about Rob Coe. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 23, 2009, 05:18:09 PM
I thought Wong had played with the Warhawks in the past....  Interesting to see he is also listed as an OF, as he had solely pitched in the past.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 24, 2009, 01:02:22 AM
I would like to amend my predictions. Point's looking very good to me right now. The Whitewater roster gets a wow from me.

Good info to start the year. We got the heads-up on the Donovans and Stine. Don't recall reading anything about Joe Munn not playing. Sorry if I missed it.

Tried to get an idea of the Whitewater transfers, but I got minimal info on most. And that info was sometimes shady, such as CJ Herrforth's stats in Johnson County CC's media guide (http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:-tEzazTDN0EJ:www.jccc.edu/home/download/18737/08BBMGReview.pdf+CJ+Herrforth+baseball&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us) saying he had a 3.36 ERA after giving up 8 ER in 16.2 IP.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on February 24, 2009, 09:24:11 AM
Even knowing of some of their losses earlier in the year, I'm still in shock after seeing that roster.  It's hard to be too critical before any of them get a chance to prove themselves over the course of the season, but they really took a hit this year!  This is why I had thought WW would finish 3rd this year....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: poly god on February 24, 2009, 01:20:44 PM
Here's Points' roster. This is not from their website. It has not been posted yet.
Fritz-ss/Spash So.
Nix-P/Osseo Sr.
Saeger-ss/Watertown Fr.
Krueger-3b/Portage Jr.
Cummings-2b/Prentice Sr.
Mielke-2b/Waunakee Fr.
Kakwitch-3b/ West Depere Fr.
Richter-1b/of/ Rosholt Jr.
Bloom-c/ Tomah Sr.
Iverson-2b/ Eau Claire North Fr.
Ullman-of/ Freedom Fr.
Van Beck-p/ Hartland Arrowhead Fr.
Koback-of/p Spash Fr.
Povlick-p/ Greendale Jr.
Schoch-of/1b Chippewa Falls McDonell Central Fr.
Thomas-p/3b Oshkosh West So.
Delorit-p/ Southern Door So.
Kramsky-c/ Glendale Nicolet So.
Surman-of/Kimberly So.
Lorenz-p/Pembine Jr.
Kouba-p/Denmark So.
Spurney-of/ Manitowoc Lincoln Jr.
Zielke-p/ Watertown Sr.
Hemstead-p/ Deforest Sr.
Archambeau-of/p Watertown Jr.
Williams-p/Baraboo So.
Barry-p/Wilmot Sr.
Rennicke-c/Mequon Homestead So.
Mittelstaedt-p/ Oshkosh North Fr.
Considine-c/Portage So.


Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 24, 2009, 05:18:33 PM
Superior's roster (http://www.uwsuper.edu/athletics/mens/baseball/roster.cfm) is also up.
Link (http://athletics.uwsp.edu/roster.aspx?path=baseball&) to Point's.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on February 24, 2009, 10:50:32 PM
Did Blizel, Hoerter, and Engelbert not make the team?  I thought Point was really counting on these guys to step in and contribute this year.  Wasn't Blizel the state legion player of the year this past summer?  What's up with so many catchers on the roster?  I think the only thing holding Point back this year is their problem making a decision behind the plate.  To me it's an easy answer, Consadine.  Use Bloom as a DH if anything he's not going to throw many people out.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 25, 2009, 09:14:24 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 24, 2009, 10:50:32 PM
Did Blizel, Hoerter, and Engelbert not make the team?  I thought Point was really counting on these guys to step in and contribute this year.  Wasn't Blizel the state legion player of the year this past summer?  What's up with so many catchers on the roster?  I think the only thing holding Point back this year is their problem making a decision behind the plate.  To me it's an easy answer, Consadine.  Use Bloom as a DH if anything he's not going to throw many people out.
I had no idea Mittelstaedt was a catcher. I've seen him pitch, DH and play 1B. Learn something everyday. I'm also curious to read the answer of your first question.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: poly god on February 25, 2009, 12:09:17 PM
From what I know Engelbert and Blizel quit. Mittelstaedt is a pitcher. It must have been a Typo?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 25, 2009, 12:37:37 PM
What about 1B Ethan Bestul from Little Chute?  I know he was listed on the Pointer press release regarding the 2008-09 recruits, but he is also not listed on the roster.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: poly god on February 25, 2009, 01:38:25 PM
I do not know about Bestul or Hoerter. I do know that they only had to make one cut this spring and that was Riegel the left hander from Hortonville. He looked good in the fall. I was surprised by that. I think they clocked him in the mid to upper 80's. Darn good for a lefty. Maybe control was an issue?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on February 26, 2009, 12:24:55 PM
I have a really hard time believing bloom would cut a lefty that throws in the mid to upper 80's!  Especially after losing hoeschele this year.  I have a hard time believing any team would cut a lefty that throws that hard.  There's some missing information there, because that's just not how it works.  Not with a guy that supposedly throws that hard and is a lefty! 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bbfanatic on February 26, 2009, 12:41:18 PM
Anyone know when Platteville or Oshkosh's rosters will be posted?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 26, 2009, 02:01:29 PM
Quote from: bbfanatic on February 26, 2009, 12:41:18 PM
Anyone know when Platteville or Oshkosh's rosters will be posted?
Oshkosh always seems to be the last one posted, and it will probably be even later this season, since their first game isn't until March 22 (nearly two weeks later than last year.)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: poly god on February 26, 2009, 06:43:02 PM
Dagger believe it or not Riegel was 84-87. I seen him pitch in the fall and I think that's pretty accurate. Besides Nix, Hemi, and Zielke their staff is really young but pitching will be one of their strengths. I think they've got 4-5 guys that get it up there close to 90. Maybe there was another issue with Riegel but I don't think so.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 27, 2009, 09:25:05 AM
Aaron Dott and Whitewater got lit up, 16-2 (http://gohuskies.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/stats/022709aaa.html), against D-I Univ. of Washington. Dott did K four dudes out of his five outs, though. Whitewater scrambled to get a game at the Dome after St. Mary's couldn't travel due to the weather.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on February 27, 2009, 09:36:00 AM
We got waxed but playing that good of competition is only going to make us better when tournament time rolls around. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 27, 2009, 09:50:21 AM
Quote from: OshDude on February 27, 2009, 09:25:05 AM
Aaron Dott and Whitewater got lit up, 16-2 (http://gohuskies.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/stats/022709aaa.html), against D-I Univ. of Washington. Dott did K four dudes out of his five outs, though. Whitewater scrambled to get a game at the Dome after St. Mary's couldn't travel due to the weather.

Nice to see Whitewater take the challenge of facing a D1.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: batboy on February 28, 2009, 10:27:37 AM
Quote from: Dagger on February 26, 2009, 12:24:55 PM
I have a really hard time believing bloom would cut a lefty that throws in the mid to upper 80's!  Especially after losing hoeschele this year.  I have a hard time believing any team would cut a lefty that throws that hard.  There's some missing information there, because that's just not how it works.  Not with a guy that supposedly throws that hard and is a lefty! 
Reigel was clocked at upper 70s this winter, thats why he was cut.  In addition, he was never clocked in the upper 80s this fall, i don't know where that information came from.  The one thing Reigel did have going for him was a good pick off move to first, which was borderline of being a balk.  BTW, the starters for the games in the dome this Tuesday are Garret Nix and Kyle Barry. 
The line up is: Fritz/ss; Archambeau/RF; Koback/CF; Surman/LF; Spurney/DH; Richter/1b; Krueger or Kakwitch/3b; Catcher(TBD); Cummings/2b
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 28, 2009, 09:44:08 PM
Jordan Zimmerman has a nice spring debut (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/boxscore.jsp?gid=2009_02_26_detmlb_wasmlb_1) earlier this week. He worked two clean innings, struck out three and got his other three outs on ground balls.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on March 01, 2009, 04:06:03 AM
Thanks OshDude for the nice stuff about Jordan Zimmermann. If he does make the starting rotation, his first start will be against Atlanta April 10.  Thank God for TBS.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 01, 2009, 09:54:13 AM
Quote from: szlongball on March 01, 2009, 04:06:03 AM
Thanks OshDude for the nice stuff about Jordan Zimmermann. If he does make the starting rotation, his first start will be against Atlanta April 10.  Thank God for TBS.
Pretty cool that he got in early enough to face Carlos Guillen, Magglio Ordonez and Miguel Cabrera. He set those guys down in order in the fourth. And he was in line for the win. Interesting that he didn't throw yesterday. I thought he would. Maybe today against the Orioles, but I wanted him to face Pujols yesterday.

Mlb.com still has "Zimmermann" as the No. 5 starter on the team depth chart (http://washington.nationals.mlb.com/team/depth_chart/index.jsp?c_id=was). Trouble for Z is his competition (I think the top four in the Nats' rotation are locks) – Collin Balester, Jason Bergmann and Shairon Martis also had scoreless, two-inning debuts.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on March 02, 2009, 09:50:12 AM
Yeah, it's great to see WIAC players doing well outside of the conference!  Zimmy has a legit shot, albeit maybe a difficult one, but a legit shot nonetheless at cracking the starting rotation in just his second full season in major league baseball!  That's pretty amazing to be moved up through the ranks that quickly for anyone.  I think the fact that he was their first pick (they didn't have a first round pick that year) will help him in the event of two pitchers being in a 'tie' to make the rotation.  Clubs like to promote their top picks and keep them moving up for obvious reasons.  I don't think Jordan will need any help climbing the ladder though, we'll see him in a big league game this season at some point!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ballfan55 on March 02, 2009, 11:53:12 AM
Quote from: cubs on February 25, 2009, 12:37:37 PM
What about 1B Ethan Bestul from Little Chute?  I know he was listed on the Pointer press release regarding the 2008-09 recruits, but he is also not listed on the roster.

He had a back injury that led to a pulled hamstring.  The decision was made to sit the year and rehab them.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 03, 2009, 01:02:45 AM
Big one tomorrow – Stevens Point vs. St. Olaf at the Dome. Anyone going by chance? I think SOC is the favorite in the MIAC this year. If you go, please let us know what you thought of the teams.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 03, 2009, 07:59:14 AM
Quote from: OshDude on March 03, 2009, 01:02:45 AM
Big one tomorrow – Stevens Point vs. St. Olaf at the Dome. Anyone going by chance? I think SOC is the favorite in the MIAC this year. If you go, please let us know what you thought of the teams.

I wish I could... I am only five minutes from the Dome on a daily basis, but cannot find the time to make it across the bridge today.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on March 03, 2009, 10:50:12 PM
Point and Olaf split their series in the dome tonight 4-3 and 2-4...good games to start the season for both teams!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on March 03, 2009, 10:53:01 PM
2-6 second game (typo)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on March 04, 2009, 09:00:15 PM
Superior sweeps 2 from Hamline to start the season.

http://www.hamline.edu/shared/news_items/athletics/baseball/2009/baseball.uws.3.4.09.html
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 05, 2009, 04:21:07 AM
Jordan Zimmerman tossed three more perfect innings (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/boxscore.jsp?gid=2009_03_04_nynmlb_wasmlb_1) yesterday, this time in a starting role against the Mets. Even better, his top comp, Collin Balester, was touched for two HRs.

It must be stated that the Mets were missing many regulars yesterday – no Wright (playing in the WBC), Reyes, Beltran, etc. Ryan Church or Fernando Tatis was probably the most established Met in the lineup.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 05, 2009, 04:32:02 AM
Anyone going to the Whitewater/St. Thomas games on Friday?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on March 05, 2009, 01:01:11 PM
Game 1  Point vs. St. Olaf
   St.Olaf was very shaky on defense in the first game. Point did all their scoring in the first inning. Nix and Zielke did a good job keeping them in check for the win.
Game 2
   Point had a chance to break the game open but couldn't capitalize.
Seeing as this was Point's first games, I think they did okay. I think they will be fine as they get more games in. Have to admit, was busy during the second game so I didn't really pay attention to how the team jelled. Was just great to see some live games.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 05, 2009, 02:22:27 PM
It appears that the Oshkosh roster will be posted on March 13th.....  Have to admit, that's earlier than I thought it would be!!! :D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 05, 2009, 08:12:09 PM
Quote from: OshDude on March 05, 2009, 04:32:02 AM
Anyone going to the Whitewater/St. Thomas games on Friday?

What time is the game...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on March 05, 2009, 08:19:23 PM
Congrats to UW Stout on the No Hitter yesterday. Four pitchers combined to no hit University of Minn. Crookston 2-0. Pitchers were: Russ Jiskra, Nate Hanson, Ethan Smallbrook and Dave Oestreich
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 05, 2009, 11:34:51 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 05, 2009, 08:12:09 PM
Quote from: OshDude on March 05, 2009, 04:32:02 AM
Anyone going to the Whitewater/St. Thomas games on Friday?

What time is the game...
Starts at 10 p.m. Take a pillow.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 08, 2009, 02:43:27 PM
The WARHAWKS split with St Thomas coming from behind to win game one 5-4 on a walk off single by Cory Trepainer and losing the second game 9-2 after being no hit for 5 innings.

In game one Sam Petrasko, Rob Coe and Trepainer all had two hits.  Trepainer added 2 RBI and Travis Wessels and Mike Kenseth each had 1 RBI.  Coe (double), Trepainer (double) and Nick Rechlitz (triple) had extra base hits for the WARHAWKS.  Aaron Dott started and surrendered 4 runs (3 earned) in four innings of work.  Ben Versnik got the win with 2.1 innings of scoreless relief. 

In game two Doug Hanson took the loss surrendering 4 earned runs in the first inning and 6 in 3.1 innings.  No WARHAWK had multiple hits.  Mike Kenseth did have a pair of RBI.  Kevin Zalnis doubled for the WARHAWKS only extra base hit. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on March 10, 2009, 12:50:23 PM
Shouldn't be a huge surprise to anyone who has been following him, but Zimmerman has survived the first round of cuts this spring for the nationals.  They reassigned 10 players, leaving 58 in big league camp.  The nationals top picks in 06 and 07 were among those sent to the minor league camps.  Colin Balester, probably Jordan's closest competition, has been touched up in two consecutive outings so things are looking promising for him right now to crack the starting rotation.  He has yet to give up a hit, run or walk, and has 6 K's in 5 innings!  With washburn's stint ending it's about time the WIAC gets a fresh face in the big leagues!  Vinny Rotino has been bounced around between nashville and the brewers, but nothing significant yet. 

Brady Endl for those that remember him was on the fast track to the braves big league club before he suffered career ending elbow problems.  He certainly had the body and the stuff to make it.  Greg Reinhard made it up the AAA for the Iowa cubs last year and finished with pretty solid numbers so he may be making a late season appearance this year if he continues with solid numbers again!  Maybe it's just me, but it's exciting to see all these guys go on and play well at the next level!  Am I missing anyone else.  Billy Johnson signed with the brewers not to long ago so he'll be playing rookie or low A ball this year also.  I'm sure there are other guys that I'm forgetting that are still active in the minor league ranks.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: titan2000 on March 10, 2009, 08:20:42 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on January 18, 2009, 01:39:08 PM
UW-WHITEWATER'S  third baseman Kevin Zalnis and UW-Oskosh's pticher Jeremy Rubens have been named to the D3.baseball.com's pre-season All American team.  Both were second team selections.  Oshkosh's firstbaseman Brad Demmin was named an honorable mention member.

http://d3baseball.com/

Is Rubens related to Pee Wee Herman? Or Pee Wee Reese?


Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on March 11, 2009, 12:56:22 AM
Jordan pitched 3 1/3 innings today. Gave up 4 hits, NO RUNS, 2 BB and 4 more Ks.
Looking like April 10th date with the Atlanta Braves.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanBystander on March 12, 2009, 01:02:59 PM
The WIAC composite schedule shows that Platteville scores 60 runs in 4 games.  WOW - where did that come from? 

Anyone know anything about their competition?  Fontbonne and Maryville - Both from Missouri.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 12, 2009, 01:43:10 PM
Quote from: TitanBystander on March 12, 2009, 01:02:59 PM
The WIAC composite schedule shows that Platteville scores 60 runs in 4 games.  WOW - where did that come from? 

Anyone know anything about their competition?  Fontbonne and Maryville - Both from Missouri.

Fontbonne and Maryville are middle of the road schools in the SLIAC which is a relatively weak conference. They would both finish at the bottom of the WIAC.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan20 on March 12, 2009, 08:21:13 PM
Oshkosh's roster is up on their website
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 15, 2009, 09:07:10 PM
Point destroyed Fontbonne MO today in Florida both games.  Looks like Point has a solid 1-2 with Nix and Barry and the bats came alive.  Surman homered twice the first game Jeremy Richter had either 4 or 5 hits in the 2 games.  I'm glad to see Point didn't load up their N/C schedule like previous years and can give some younger guys a chance.  I don't know for sure though that Point will play anyone on their break that will give an indication of where their at early in the year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on March 16, 2009, 04:44:38 PM
Washington Nationals 5th starter Jordan Zimmerman didnt start but was the first in relief in todays game. He picked up the win going 4 innings, 6Ks, giving up 2 hits and walking none and not surrendering a run.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on March 16, 2009, 08:10:12 PM
UWS swept Westminster today 12-2, 11-0
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on March 17, 2009, 09:42:34 AM
Another convincing day for point yesterday against greenville college.  Granted they haven't played any real competition yet, but their bats are coming alive and the pitching staff is looking to live up to all the hype so far!  If their bats stay hot like they are right now....look out.  Lot of successes early in the year for almost all the WIAC teams, conference games will be very exciting to watch this season...don't take your eye off of UWS just yet either, they're looking pretty strong thus far!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 17, 2009, 10:39:07 AM
Quote from: Dagger on March 17, 2009, 09:42:34 AM
Another convincing day for point yesterday against greenville college.  Granted they haven't played any real competition yet, but their bats are coming alive and the pitching staff is looking to live up to all the hype so far!  If their bats stay hot like they are right now....look out.  Lot of successes early in the year for almost all the WIAC teams, conference games will be very exciting to watch this season...don't take your eye off of UWS just yet either, they're looking pretty strong thus far!
Hemi's shaky IP against a weaker team concern you at all?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on March 17, 2009, 11:36:17 AM
A few errors didn't help that inning. I think he'll be fine. Hard to be perfect when you haven't pitched in over a year. Will just take some time to get the cobwebs out of the system.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on March 17, 2009, 03:50:53 PM
Hemi's inning is a little concerning to me...for several reasons.  He's been out for a substantial amount of time, and coming back and being effective may take a long time.  The good thing about that I suppose is that if he comes around it should be right in time for the postseason push.  However, the WIAC has a pretty condensed season (as does everyone else I suppose) so taking time to find his groove may take too much time to really contribute this year!  I also worry about his physical condition being that he hasn't thrown in so long, and his injury was pretty severe so hopefully his rehab will hold up throughout the season.  I'm also a little concerned about the mental side of him being able to compete, as many of you know pitching is largely dependent on your mental strength and ability to stay emotionally strong!  If he gets beat up for several outings in a row that could very well knock his confidence down and render him less effective.  Of course I hope and believe that he will be just fine as the year progresses, and will prove to be an integral part of the rotation!  Those are just possible scenarios which have run through my mind, I think he'll be just fine in the end...It may take a couple games for him to find himself but he'll find it again! 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: titan2000 on March 17, 2009, 10:53:02 PM
Quote from: OshDude on March 17, 2009, 10:39:07 AM
Quote from: Dagger on March 17, 2009, 09:42:34 AM
Another convincing day for point yesterday against greenville college.  Granted they haven't played any real competition yet, but their bats are coming alive and the pitching staff is looking to live up to all the hype so far!  If their bats stay hot like they are right now....look out.  Lot of successes early in the year for almost all the WIAC teams, conference games will be very exciting to watch this season...don't take your eye off of UWS just yet either, they're looking pretty strong thus far!
Hemi's shaky IP against a weaker team concern you at all?

My Hemi was shaky too; bad motor mounts in the Chryslers.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: poly god on March 18, 2009, 10:58:42 AM
Sounds like Richter is having a great trip for Point. Is anyone else standing out? How are the Freshman doing?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on March 18, 2009, 12:35:50 PM
Quote from: poly god on March 18, 2009, 10:58:42 AM
Sounds like Richter is having a great trip for Point. Is anyone else standing out? How are the Freshman doing?
sounds like point has been reeking havoc on the base paths.  koback apparently hits the ball on the ground and has a base hit and steals 2nd whenever he wants.  the freshman have been contributing down in florida, and kevin thomas who was a pitcher last year, has been hitting the ball well.  the pointers face a little tougher competition today so hopefully their bats stay hot and they get a couple of big Ws.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on March 18, 2009, 02:38:32 PM
The young guys are playing well, as are the older guys for point so far...keep in mind, as stated by others, they haven't played any competition down there yet and they know that!  Today against Ripon will be their first decent challenge down there.  Then they close out with washington and jefferson the last day.  I also believe that the team from tennessee they play (rhodes I think) is pretty legit too.   All those games will be a better gauge as to where they are standing.   With a such a young team though I like them getting some convincing wins early on like that to build up the younger players confidence levels heading into some bigger challenges.

To touch on a previous posting, I'm very concerned now that I thought about it more, about Hemi and his arm strength.  he's been out for a long time and from all reports he's just not where he needs to be.  he's been maxing out in the upper 70's!  granted he was never a real fireballer, but that's less then what he should be at at this stage in his comeback!  If he at least had his velocity and was just missing some spots I wouldn't worry too much, but that's a pretty concerning number popping up on the gun.  Hopefully he'll regain strength as the season roles on, however I wouldn't rely on him to be a significant contributor to the staff this year.  I see point viewing him as a bonus should he get healthy, but not something that they were really counting on anyway, so if he is in-effective I don't see it hurting them all too much!  I'm still holding out that he'll be fine, but the pessimist in me says it aint going to happen!  time will tell.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on March 18, 2009, 04:41:12 PM
not sure about game 1 vs ripon, but point won game 2 8-6 in 10 innings against Rhodes(TN) here are the game stats http://livestats.internetconsult.com/rhodes/baseball/
looks like archambeau and schoch had the big games offensively; arch 2-5 2 RBI, schoch 3-5 2 RBI. IDK much about Rhodes but I think thats the best competition point has faced in florida. Big win in extras for the Pointers. If anyone knows about the Ripon game, please let us know.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on March 18, 2009, 06:15:46 PM
Got the info on game 1 UWSP vs Ripon.  Point won 11-4, it was a 9 inning game, apparently Ripon was winning 4-3 through the 5th, but then they turned the game over to their bullpen who point lit up.  So two solid wins for the Pointers today.  Another note from game 2, hemi pitched a solid four innings against a better hitting team than Greenville, so hopefully the cobwebs are out and he's back on track.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on March 18, 2009, 08:18:16 PM
Point scored 9 runs in the late innings against ripon.  Hemi looked to be much more convincing today with his stuff which is a big relief for the pointers I'm sure.  He's a master with the changeup and will rely on it all year, as he's still maxing out in the upper 70's with the heater!  Nice pair of wins for them today, as rhodes was without question their best competition thus far.  I'm not convinced that ripon is worth noting as a good win for a team of points caliber, despite the history between them...I just don't think Ripon is any good.  Tomorrow's games against washington and jefferson will be good ones to gauge their team one last time before heading home.

once at home they get right at it with their first home weekend series being against the warhawks.  Be nice to know right off the bat where both of those teams stand in respect to one another.  exciting starts all around the league thus far though, so conference play will be interesting to follow this year to see who will separate themselves from the pack. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 19, 2009, 07:08:40 AM
Pointers, I have a dumb question. Did Z always have two N's at the end of his name? I don't remember seeing "Zimmermann" before this year. Now everywhere I look it says "Zimmermann." Take it easy on me. I went to Oshkosh. I'm not as smart as you guys, and I never retrieved baseballs that Z accidentally let someone hit, so I'm doubly behind your knowledge. It's just one of the stupid things that I (and very few others, probably) am curious about.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 19, 2009, 07:54:13 AM
Quote from: Titan20 on March 12, 2009, 08:21:13 PM
Oshkosh's roster is up on their website
Bruce Erickson is not listed as an assistant? Big loss, imo.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 19, 2009, 08:23:27 AM
Quote from: OshDude on March 19, 2009, 07:54:13 AM
Quote from: Titan20 on March 12, 2009, 08:21:13 PM
Oshkosh's roster is up on their website
Bruce Erickson is not listed as an assistant? Big loss, imo.

Not having Bruce Erickson is a huge loss. One of the greatest guys ever and a even better coach. I knew him quite well as he coached Appleton West for year who was in my high school conference as well as knowing his son Matt very well. Matt got a cup-o-coffee in the bigs and retired last year. He was just named the hitting coach for the Brewer's Single A team in Appleton.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on March 19, 2009, 10:13:26 AM
2 nns in Zimmermann. Maybe it was just listed wrong before.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on March 19, 2009, 10:07:00 PM
good start for the warhawks, taking an early game from (11-3) Wooster by one run.  They play Otterbein on Friday, another very good team.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on March 19, 2009, 10:17:24 PM
point splits with W&J on their last day in florida winning by one in extra innings and then losing 8-2 in the nightcap.  Seems to me like there were some costly errors in that second game, combined with the middle of the order going 0 for the day!  Those two things in combination never boast well for the final outcome.  That's just my opinion on the game from reading the box score and play by play, anyone who was there and has more insight to offer, please do so...I'm interested in hearing about these two games. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on March 19, 2009, 10:42:56 PM
Quote from: Dagger on March 19, 2009, 10:17:24 PM
point splits with W&J on their last day in florida winning by one in extra innings and then losing 8-2 in the nightcap.  Seems to me like there were some costly errors in that second game, combined with the middle of the order going 0 for the day!  Those two things in combination never boast well for the final outcome.  That's just my opinion on the game from reading the box score and play by play, anyone who was there and has more insight to offer, please do so...I'm interested in hearing about these two games. 

apparently point just didn't show up at all in the nightcap, it was by far their worst performance of the year.  with the errors and only getting 3 hits offensively, looks to me like it was just one of those games.  hard to believe the bats just went quiet after belting out 16 hits in game one, granted it was 10 innings, but still.  kind of shocked about what happened to nixy in game 1, hopefully it was just a bad day for him.  oh well, it was a pretty successful trip for the pointers, but it's tough to leave with that feeling in your stomach, hopefully they'll be able to get back on track when the play Norberts. 

Other WIAC game down in Florida, Whitewater had a big win against perennial powerhouse Wooster, that's a pretty big win for them, and came as a surprise to me.  WW has a pretty tough schedule down there, playing Otterbein three times, Carthage twice and the Minnesota Twins A ball team; should be interesting. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on March 20, 2009, 10:03:27 AM
I'm very surprised with the whitewater win over wooster.  I guess I really shouldn't be because they always seem to come out of every year being successful.  It's just hard to look at that roster and believe they have any kind of staying power, we'll see!  Like Brewers20 said UWW has a very difficult schedule, very similar to points schedules of the past two years (wooster, otterbein, etc..) I'm interested to see where the hawks finish their trip at, as the pointers always left there right around .500 in my time served!  Last time UWW played a rookie team ( I believe it was the twins rookie team) they beat them! 

As for nixy, that's pretty much standard throughout a season.  He'll be lights out one day and just plain off the next!  For someone with nix's talent it is something that you just deal with, because he has amazing stuff when he's on.  I'm not too concerned with that performance, because he's bound to do that another one or two times yet this season!  He's fine, he'll  be a dominant shut down kind of guy in all of his other starts.  If he could find a way to stay away from these types of outings his numbers would be ridiculous.  Lorenz has been looking pretty good for points pen thus far also, nice to see that for the pointers/him.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on March 20, 2009, 04:18:07 PM
UWW wins 3-2 against Otterbein today!  Great start for the hawks, looking to prove all their doubters wrong...and so far doing a very good job of that.  Extremely impressive wins down there to start off their trip.  not sure how the carthage game went.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on March 20, 2009, 04:23:32 PM
UWW beats carthage 9-0...I'm now forced to take back all the bad things I said about this years teams chances!  They are once again, and shouldn't be a surprise to anyone who's been alive the past 6 years or so, a powerhouse!  I would normally be a little hesitant to give too much praise to a team this early in the season, but with their track record and the quality of the teams they are playing and beating...I'm impressed...look out WIAC.  Still think point will win the season series, but they look to be much better than I had originally suspected!  Granted two of their three games down there have been 1 run games, but that just goes to show you they can handle tough situations and finish games off when they need to...very interesting start for them, one that I would have never guessed.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on March 20, 2009, 08:53:12 PM
Quote from: Dagger on March 20, 2009, 04:23:32 PM
UWW beats carthage 9-0...I'm now forced to take back all the bad things I said about this years teams chances!  They are once again, and shouldn't be a surprise to anyone who's been alive the past 6 years or so, a powerhouse!  I would normally be a little hesitant to give too much praise to a team this early in the season, but with their track record and the quality of the teams they are playing and beating...I'm impressed...look out WIAC.  Still think point will win the season series, but they look to be much better than I had originally suspected!  Granted two of their three games down there have been 1 run games, but that just goes to show you they can handle tough situations and finish games off when they need to...very interesting start for them, one that I would have never guessed.
WW is definitely playing with a chip on their shoulder.  The thing is with WW every year, no matter how good their team is or what their record is, they have tremendous confidence, and they think nobody can beat them, thats what it takes to be a great baseball team.  You have to give them credit, they are a perennial powerhouse.  I will stand behind the pointers to take the series as well in the WIAC opener, but all of the games will be battles. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on March 20, 2009, 10:01:08 PM
UWW skeptics of the world - unite...lol...

...both the Otters and Carthage had a difficult time with their defense, 5 errors each. As a result, take what you want out of these games.  Warhawks won each, but it's way to early to reach conclusions, IMO.  At least the 'hawks are playing traditionally strong competition in the early going and posting a few 'W's.'
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 21, 2009, 09:50:02 AM
I'm gonna echo BoBo's UWW hedge. I think the '09 Hawks are simply better than Carthage and Otterbein. I thought they would win both. Not at all surprised Dott and Olson shut out Carthage. UWW only plays Carthage and Otterbein down there, so they could come back undefeated against them. I may be alone, but I think Carthage is down a few pegs talent-wise this year. Still probably an NCAA team, but not a favorite in many games against UWO, UWSP or UWW (or St. Olaf/St. Thomas, if CC gets bused up here again) this year.

There are a few new Whitewater guys like Doug Hanson who are just names and numbers to many of us right now. I look forward to seeing Hanson and the other new faces. Hanson had a nice line against Otterbein, merely a decent team imo.

I'll stick with my third-place prediction for UWW – which will no doubt have wins over UWO and UWSP – but I wouldn't be shocked if Vode makes me eat my words. I like a lot of their parts, that's for sure. I think a lot hinges on Hooper, Hanson and whoever emerges as the No. 4. I'm a believer in Hooper. I'm curious about the others, that's all.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on March 21, 2009, 08:23:57 PM
La Crosse drops one to Johns Hopkins (7-7) 6-4 in Phoenix today after picking up a pair of wins vs Brockport State yesterday 10-3 & 4-2.  The Eagles are now 7-2 on their spring trip to the desert.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 21, 2009, 11:14:41 PM
Quote from: OshDude on March 21, 2009, 09:50:02 AM
I'm gonna echo BoBo's UWW hedge. I think the '09 Hawks are simply better than Carthage and Otterbein. I thought they would win both. Not at all surprised Dott and Olson shut out Carthage. UWW only plays Carthage and Otterbein down there, so they could come back undefeated against them. I may be alone, but I think Carthage is down a few pegs talent-wise this year. Still probably an NCAA team, but not a favorite in many games against UWO, UWSP or UWW (or St. Olaf/St. Thomas, if CC gets bused up here again) this year.

There are a few new Whitewater guys like Doug Hanson who are just names and numbers to many of us right now. I look forward to seeing Hanson and the other new faces. Hanson had a nice line against Otterbein, merely a decent team imo.

I'll stick with my third-place prediction for UWW – which will no doubt have wins over UWO and UWSP – but I wouldn't be shocked if Vode makes me eat my words. I like a lot of their parts, that's for sure. I think a lot hinges on Hooper, Hanson and whoever emerges as the No. 4. I'm a believer in Hooper. I'm curious about the others, that's all.

OshDude- you are not alone. I fear that Carthage is a few notches below their normal level of play. The turned over a lot of their starters this year defensively so it may take a while to gel... just hope it does not take too long.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on March 22, 2009, 02:53:50 AM
Warhawks improve to 5-2 on the season by winning a 17 inning, 4 hr 18 min marathon over Otterbein 4-3 in Port Charlotte, Florida.
Story (http://www.uwwsports.com/News/baseball/2009/3/21/bb_032109_otterbein.asp?path=baseball)
Box Score (http://www.uwwsports.com/sports/baseball/2009/ott-uww2.htm)

Nearly enough innings for 2 complete games, at the cost of only one on the schedule - I'm sure they will take the extra AB's!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan20 on March 22, 2009, 03:40:14 PM
UWO wins opener to Depuaw 3-1.  Matson pithed 3, demmin, 4 and rubens 2.  UWO had alot of runners on base but could not capitalize.  Double header v. Thomas will be a good test tom.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 22, 2009, 07:00:34 PM
The WARHAWKS dropped an 8-6 decision today to Carthage.   Williams Lovera took the loss surrendering 4 runs, none of which were earned, in 3.2 innings.  Mario Perez went the distance for Carthage.  All of the WARHAWKS runs were unearned as Carthage was guilty of 6 errors.   The WARHAWKS dropped to 5-3.  Carthage improved to 6-4.

In other developments Jordan Zimmermann's impressive string of scoreless innings took a hit.  Zimmermann was touched for 5 runs on 7 hits in two innings in a 12-11 National loss to the Cardinal. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on March 23, 2009, 03:15:34 PM
The overall stats are posted on UWSP's website through their spring trip, and I must say I am a little concerned about the team batting average (.293) and fielding percentage (.931).  I guess I was under the impression that their hitting did a lot better down in Florida with the amount of runs they scored, but apparently a fair amount of those runs were unearned.  Looks like the boys still need to work out some kinks before they get started up north or St. Norberts will give them a rude awakening.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on March 23, 2009, 05:35:33 PM
points error situation is nothing new to them over the course of the past few years, and a 290 ish team average is nothing to be worried about.  it's better than the 210's that whitewater is hitting as a team right now.  Nothing to be concerned about in my opinion.  I will agree that it seemed to be much higher while reading game recaps, I was expecting a team average well into the .300's.  Also keep in mind that the infield is entirely brand new (fritz has the most experience there) and he only played a limited amount of games last year.  Cummings is new to the infield, and especially 2nd base and the corners are new to the team!  The errors always are a concern for them and no doubt will cost them during this season, but they are young and it shouldn't be surprise to anyone that they are making errors.  Part of the growing pains with a new and young infield.  The last two years I have no idea, just a lot of unnecessary errors at random times. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: RSSmith on March 23, 2009, 06:10:11 PM
Quote from: Dagger on March 23, 2009, 05:35:33 PM
points error situation is nothing new to them over the course of the past few years, and a 290 ish team average is nothing to be worried about.  it's better than the 210's that whitewater is hitting as a team right now.  Nothing to be concerned about in my opinion.  I will agree that it seemed to be much higher while reading game recaps, I was expecting a team average well into the .300's.  Also keep in mind that the infield is entirely brand new (fritz has the most experience there) and he only played a limited amount of games last year.  Cummings is new to the infield, and especially 2nd base and the corners are new to the team!  The errors always are a concern for them and no doubt will cost them during this season, but they are young and it shouldn't be surprise to anyone that they are making errors.  Part of the growing pains with a new and young infield.  The last two years I have no idea, just a lot of unnecessary errors at random times. 

Dude, I didn't believe you so I checked the WW website--.204 after 8 games.  That's ridiculous.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 23, 2009, 06:19:11 PM
To be fair, Whitewater did face some tough pitching on their trip. Carthage(twice), Otterbein (twice)and Wooster  all threw quality arms at the Warhawks. That is half their season right there.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 23, 2009, 07:00:20 PM
Quote from: RSSmith on March 23, 2009, 06:10:11 PM
Quote from: Dagger on March 23, 2009, 05:35:33 PM
points error situation is nothing new to them over the course of the past few years, and a 290 ish team average is nothing to be worried about.  it's better than the 210's that whitewater is hitting as a team right now.  Nothing to be concerned about in my opinion.  I will agree that it seemed to be much higher while reading game recaps, I was expecting a team average well into the .300's.  Also keep in mind that the infield is entirely brand new (fritz has the most experience there) and he only played a limited amount of games last year.  Cummings is new to the infield, and especially 2nd base and the corners are new to the team!  The errors always are a concern for them and no doubt will cost them during this season, but they are young and it shouldn't be surprise to anyone that they are making errors.  Part of the growing pains with a new and young infield.  The last two years I have no idea, just a lot of unnecessary errors at random times. 

Dude, I didn't believe you so I checked the WW website--.204 after 8 games.  That's ridiculous.
Rough start considering it's DubDub. Zalnis (.129) and Kuhlmann (.222) will find it soon. Hope they wait until after April 1 though  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 24, 2009, 09:43:35 AM
Oshkosh drops a pair to St Thomas 6-3, 15-8.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on March 24, 2009, 10:07:17 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 24, 2009, 09:43:35 AM
Oshkosh drops a pair to St Thomas 6-3, 15-8.

Can I change my vote in the poll question?  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 24, 2009, 10:17:15 AM
Quote from: BoBo on March 24, 2009, 10:07:17 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 24, 2009, 09:43:35 AM
Oshkosh drops a pair to St Thomas 6-3, 15-8.

Can I change my vote in the poll question?  ;)
I'm with you if UWO doesn't return with a 5-2 3 in-region record. Need to get those two back from UST in a couple of days.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 24, 2009, 10:27:20 AM
The Tommies are starting to make some noise in the Midwest.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on March 24, 2009, 10:34:29 AM
UWO dropping two to the Tommies is a bit of a surprise to me as well.  I thought the Titans pitching was a little better than that.  Having them finish 2nd or 3rd in the WIAC standings is a good spot for them I think, but it's early, you never know what can happen up north.  So far Mickey Fadness seems to be hitting the ball well, looks like the year off didn't phase him much.  I can't say I'm surprised though, he's always been a great hitter.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on March 24, 2009, 12:18:47 PM
Quote from: Brewers20 on March 24, 2009, 10:34:29 AM
UWO dropping two to the Tommies is a bit of a surprise to me as well.  I thought the Titans pitching was a little better than that.  Having them finish 2nd or 3rd in the WIAC standings is a good spot for them I think, but it's early, you never know what can happen up north.  So far Mickey Fadness seems to be hitting the ball well, looks like the year off didn't phase him much.  I can't say I'm surprised though, he's always been a great hitter.

Well Thomas pitched 2 of their top 3 guys and guessing UWO didnt pitch any of their top 3. But on the other hand you dont want your 4-7 pitchers giving up 21 runs in 2 games
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on March 24, 2009, 12:56:34 PM
I've been puzzled a number of times as to the decisions made on who runs out to the mound for the titans.  Like OshDude mentioned however it is very difficult to question a coach like lechnir who clearly has had a great deal of success over the years.  I would have saved my best two pitchers to face their top guns personally.  I understand the concept of having the top three come around again and getting to face up against ust's bottom half of the rotation, but I guess I would just rather throw the guns against each other and at least make an attempt at grabbing a split, and you would sure think your 3-6 would match up similarly to ust's 3-6 and pull out at least another split there.  Now you're down 0-2, and if you split the second day you just cost yourself dearly in the region when it comes down to at large bids.  I'm still not totally sure what happened in the regional last year and what the thinking was in not throwing your best (the conferences best) pitcher!?! but I'll save that for another time. 

I agree with Big Poppa also that UWW has played some great teams and that no doubt will effect their average, but there's no excuse for it to be that low.  Those are the exact teams that point had played every spring for the last three years and they never came home hitting in the low .200's.  I said in my first post on here that UWW will have to rely on their pitching because they just simply don't have the offense that they have become so accustomed to in the past.  people will simply pitch around zalnis, plus I get the feeling that he's living under a ton of pressure this year trying to match the ridiculously high numbers he put up last year. 

I think the UWSP, UWO, UWW teams this year are all pretty much on the same playing field as far as I can tell from the limited games we have had this year (especially uwo).  usually there is a favorite, but I honestly am having a hard time picking my favorite to take the title.  The pointer in me thinks UWSP is due, but they are defensively weak, and unproven.  UWW has won some great games but have terrible numbers.  They also have a knack for coming up big when they need to though...see last 7 years...UWO is probably still the leader in my mind for conference champs, but time will tell how they stack up this year. 

Conference Tourney 2009
1. UWO
2. UWSP
3. UWP
4. UWW

I don't really believe that UWW will come in at the 4 seed but just for fun and for the possible "I told you so" at the end of the season, I'll put it down in writting now!  ;)  Also look for Superior to be battling for the final spot.  I don't believe LAX or Stout have any staying power this year, good starts for both of them and they both will no doubt be good games for anyone (and will undoubtedly steal a couple games in conference from the big guns) but I just don't see them having the depth and quality that you need to make it the end.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 24, 2009, 01:01:12 PM
Quote from: Dagger on March 24, 2009, 12:56:34 PM
I've been puzzled a number of times as to the decisions made on who runs out to the mound for the titans.  Like OshDude mentioned however it is very difficult to question a coach like lechnir who clearly has had a great deal of success over the years.

I thought the same thing last year when Rubens did not see the mound in the NCAA Regional. I find it hard to swallow when you go down and you still have a bullet left in your gun. COnversely, there is a reason that Lechnir is a VERY successful college coach and my college coaching record is under .500.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on March 24, 2009, 06:02:00 PM
Has anyone heard anything about the WIAC tournament and the new rules that were suppose to come out?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 25, 2009, 08:34:41 AM
Last I heard it was hosted by Joannes Park in Green Bay.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 25, 2009, 09:55:23 AM
I thought I'd heard that it was returning to the campus site of the team that won the regular season but I wasn't able to find anything on the WIAC website. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 25, 2009, 10:26:07 AM
Quote from: Brewers20 on March 24, 2009, 06:02:00 PM
Has anyone heard anything about the WIAC tournament and the new rules that were suppose to come out?
Go back to Page 74 on this thread, and you will find the latest news that has actually been published. 

You would think that the WIAC site would have something up by now since the conference season is almost underway.

Otherwise, just click on the following link:
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/archive/?blogID=30025249&archive=y&startDate=02-12-2009&endDate=02-12-2009
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on March 25, 2009, 11:12:49 AM
I wish the WIAC website would clarify what is going on this year, seems to me that the Commissioner has his mind made up about the format according to that article.  I think if they go back to the regular season champion hosting the tournament, they need to extend it to a third day, because the format of having the lower two seeds be lose one and done is wrong.  The tournament should be a level playing field for all four teams. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 25, 2009, 12:13:48 PM
The article indicates that given the option "nobody" wanted to extend the tournament to a third day. 

FWIW next year WHITEWATER will have lights.  We would have had them this year but delays extended the football field project so they wouldn't have been able to complete the baseball field in time for this season. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on March 25, 2009, 12:23:31 PM
Thats nice that WW will be getting lights.  IMO all of the fields in the conference should have lights.  It would attract a lot more fans for the games during the week, and it would possibly elimiate some cancellations. For example, if the field was wet from a big rain storm the night before, it would have all day to dry and the game could be played at night. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 25, 2009, 01:29:30 PM
I thought I had read that Oshkosh would be getting lights at Tiedemann Field as part of the renovations that were taking place.  (I can't seem to find the article anymore...)

If that is the case, I have a funny feeling that that would be the end of the Regionals being played at EJ Schneider, as one would think Oshkosh would put in the bid to play at thier home field, instead of playing across town.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on March 25, 2009, 02:42:10 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 25, 2009, 01:29:30 PM
I thought I had read that Oshkosh would be getting lights at Tiedemann Field as part of the renovations that were taking place.  (I can't seem to find the article anymore...)

If that is the case, I have a funny feeling that that would be the end of the Regionals being played at EJ Schneider, as one would think Oshkosh would put in the bid to play at thier home field, instead of playing across town.
I'm pretty sure I heard that too.  But not until 2010.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on March 25, 2009, 03:05:36 PM
Well looks like WW got another big victory today against Otterbien.  I don't know anything about the game besides the score which was 6-2 WW posted on the Otterbein website.  I have to give credit to the Warhawks getting it done against good competition.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: brewcrew2008 on March 25, 2009, 04:13:27 PM
It took me awhile but I thought I'd post my two cents worth on the Pointers Florida trip seeing how I was lucky enough to see it first hand.

First off I was pretty surprised to see the team batting average is only at .293 as it seemed like they were hitting the ball pretty well all week, I realize they also played two games in the dome before the trip which may have lowered it a bit, but overall they hit quite a few extra base hits including 5 home runs the first day and what seemed like quite a few doubles. Another positive was the amount of runs scored late in the games including turning the 2nd game against Greenville from a 4-3 game in the 5th to a 13-3 win and from trailing against Ripon into a 11-4 win. Also the comeback in the bottom of the 7th against Washington & Jefferson with 3 runs in the bottom half, then going on to win it in extras. The pitching seemed to be pretty solid and didn't get much help from the defense and Nix and Berry both worked on short rest to come back and pitch the final day. The defense was shaky, quite a few errors around the infield but for kids like Iverson and Schoch who've never played infield before I think they're just hoping to adjust as the season goes on and hopefully be solid come later in the conference season.

As far as the rotations go they shuffled three catchers all week in Bloom, Considine, and Rennicke so it seems like that might be how it is all year, just ride the hot hand. Schoch was hitting the ball well all week and got most the time at first with Richter playing right, Archambeau playing center and Kobak DH'ing. Thomas and Kakwitch split time at 3rd with Krueger also getting a start. Cummings started the first 4 games of the week at 2nd and struggled a bit in the field and at the plate and got taken out of the 5th game with Iverson coming in and playing the rest of the week, he had some struggles in the final game in the field but overall hit well including the game tying rbi's with 2 out in the 7th against W & J, so it seems like they might split time the rest of the year as well.

All in all a good trip for Point going 7-1 and looking forward to the rest of the season
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on March 25, 2009, 08:03:24 PM
Quote from: Brewers20 on March 25, 2009, 03:05:36 PM
Well looks like WW got another big victory today against Otterbien.  I don't know anything about the game besides the score which was 6-2 WW posted on the Otterbein website.  I have to give credit to the Warhawks getting it done against good competition.

Story (http://www.uwwsports.com/News/baseball/2009/3/25/bb_032509_otterbein.asp?path=baseball)

Box Score (http://www.uwwsports.com/sports/baseball/2009/ott3.htm)

Aaron Dott strikes out 13 in the 6-2 Warhawk win.  UWW plays the Minnesota Twins Class A team in Ft. Meyers on Thurs. to conclude the spring trip portion of their schedule.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on March 25, 2009, 11:38:06 PM
Really suprised no one posted this about the UWO game

http://www.depauw.edu/ath/baseball/2009/stats/032509.htm

20-9 loss is pretty rough even if its to a fairly good Depauw team in my opinion. Now UWO has 4 rough ones with Thomas and Olaf who i think they will at least get splits out of since they have their top 3 to pitch.

Thankfully they get to finish up with a bad Westminster (Mo) team
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 26, 2009, 08:30:35 AM
WOW! When was the last time Oshkosh gave up 20 runs??! The WIAC is going to be very interesting. Today will tell the story for UW-O as they should have their top arms on the hill.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 26, 2009, 09:23:58 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 26, 2009, 08:30:35 AM
WOW! When was the last time Oshkosh gave up 20 runs??! The WIAC is going to be very interesting. Today will tell the story for UW-O as they should have their top arms on the hill.
Curious about that myself. Looked it up and it was Whitewater, 20-13, in 2005. Thought I'd have to search further back than that. UWW won the title that year, so maybe DePauw wins it this year? Man, 20-9 ... only one way to go from there, I'd think. Would like to have heard the pep talk after that one.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on March 26, 2009, 09:39:32 AM
that is an absolute shocker to see the titans go down giving up that many runs.  If they don't pull out at least splits in their next two series, bye bye at large bid!  I mean it's awfully early to be talking about that and lots of things could happen, but they desperately need some wins here in the near future to have a chance come post season bids. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 26, 2009, 10:14:23 AM
In all fairness to the UWO pitchers, the defense committed five errors, (which led to 11 unearned runs) so the 20 runs COULD be a little misleading. 

Unless of course that is the type of defense UWO is going to play the majority of the season. :-\
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on March 26, 2009, 10:57:57 AM
The 5 errors didn't help UWO at all, but what about the 5 errors DePauw committed? I think those would've helped UWO make the game a little closer, but the errors the Titans made must have been more crucial.  Well i guess anybody can have a bad day, believe me I've experienced a few myself in my years of playing, but the key is after a bad game like that, you have to be able to bounce back and forget the past. Lets see if the Titans can do that, otherwise, they're going to be in bad shape returning up north.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on March 26, 2009, 12:06:40 PM

I just had looked at the UWW overall stats for offense and I think they're going to have to get in the cage or something.  .218 team average with your best hitter posting a .118 average and only 2 rbi coming back from Florida, I don't care who you're playing, that is for lack of better word, brutal.  Maybe he isn't getting pitched to and he is starting to get frustrated and swinging at balls out of the strike zone, idk.  But if WW wants a shot at being at the top again, a .218 team avg. isn't going to cut it. 

From the games played around the WIAC, I am going to have to go with UWSP having the best start. UWW is right there with the competition they've played, but that offense puts them behind Point.  Superior, Stout and LAX have also posted good records as well, but all of their schedules were fairly weak.  Oshkosh is off to a very poor start as everyone knows, and Platteville posting a 5-5 record against that competition is nothing to brag about.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on March 26, 2009, 12:42:56 PM
The next 2 weeks should prove how the top 3 teams will shake out. Point starts out with Stout on April 1st and then 4 games against Whitewater. Oshkosh will have 4 games against Whitewater (april 1st and 8th). The weaker teams in the conference have better records then they have probably ever had to this point(or any point in their seasons). Congrats to Whitewater on the wins they got against some very good teams. While Point didn't play their usual tough schedule in Florida, they still beat up on in region teams(which matters at the end of the season)Personally don't like Oshkosh, so I'm glad they are struggling, but should still be of some concern to their fans. Didn't expect to see them struggle so far.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 26, 2009, 01:21:39 PM
Quote from: Brewers20 on March 26, 2009, 10:57:57 AM
The 5 errors didn't help UWO at all, but what about the 5 errors DePauw committed? I think those would've helped UWO make the game a little closer, but the errors the Titans made must have been more crucial. 
I had originally thought the same thing when I saw that Depauw had also committed five errors, however of the nine runs they gave up only one of them was unearned.  I guess Depauw's pitchers were either able to do a better job of over-coming the errors, or the errors happened at times when it didn't really matter and the runs would have scored regardless.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 26, 2009, 02:18:11 PM
Quote from: Brewers20 on March 26, 2009, 12:06:40 PM
From the games played around the WIAC, I am going to have to go with UWSP having the best start. UWW is right there with the competition they've played, but that offense puts them behind Point.  Superior, Stout and LAX have also posted good records as well, but all of their schedules were fairly weak.  Oshkosh is off to a very poor start as everyone knows, and Platteville posting a 5-5 record against that competition is nothing to brag about.
Point's schedule wasn't exactly the greatest either.  The combined records of the teams they played?  46-43....  When you compare it to La Crosse's (45-42) they are actually pretty similar, and one could argue that a couple of the the team's that La Crosse played (and lost to) are traditionally a little stronger (St. Scholastica, and Johns Hopkins.).

For the sake of comparison, Superior opponents have gone 32-49, while Stout's are 28-54, which may help explain the nice records from the Blue Devils and Yellow Jackets.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on March 26, 2009, 04:04:18 PM
FYI the DH location between UWSP and St. Norberts has been changed to Stevens Point due to poor field conditions in De Pere. http://athletics.uwsp.edu/news/2009/3/26/BSB_0326091641.aspx?path=baseball
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on March 26, 2009, 05:41:58 PM
Correct me if I am wrong, but in regional games count a lot towards post season bids. Yes, Point didn't play a tough schedule this time in Florida, but all but one win was against in region teams. Stout, and the gang of weaker WIAC teams didn't play outstanding competition either, but a win is a win, especially if you have a program that is not used to winning. They still put up wins, scored runs and had some outstanding pitching. Will they keep it up? Don't know, but shouldn't be knocking them for at least trying to get their programs better, instead of the cupcake teams on the WIAC schedule for the big 3.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 26, 2009, 06:05:23 PM
Quote from: szlongball on March 26, 2009, 05:41:58 PM
Don't know, but shouldn't be knocking them for at least trying to get their programs better, instead of the cupcake teams on the WIAC schedule for the big 3.
Who is knocking them?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 26, 2009, 06:39:02 PM
I don't care who Superior has played this year they are for real and it's going to be very difficult for Oshkosh, Whitewater, or Point to win all 4 against them.  They have some solid pitching and a few good sticks in the lineup.  Platteville will also be tough to sweep because Lange is a stud on the hill.  The question is whether Superior will get enough home games with the bad weather we have coming the next few weeks.  I know Point was suposed to be play all 4 there last year and they got moved and Point hung on a few of the games making me believe Superior would've probably taken 1 or 2 from Point last year if the games would've been at Superior.  I don't think Stout is much to worry about but also think LaCrosse is going to have a pretty solid offense.  That freshman they brought in from Viroqua is going to be 1rst team WIAC like Surman last year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 26, 2009, 09:20:07 PM
Do you mean cupcakes like Wooster (ranked 7th nationally),  St Thomas (ranked 24th nationally), Carthage (receiving votes nationally), the University of Washington (D1) and the Minnesota Twins Class A minor league team?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on March 26, 2009, 10:35:48 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 26, 2009, 09:20:07 PM
Do you mean cupcakes like Wooster (ranked 7th nationally),  St Thomas (ranked 24th nationally), Carthage (receiving votes nationally), the University of Washington (D1) and the Minnesota Twins Class A minor league team?
I think what szlongball was saying is that  teams in the WIAC like Stout and Superior are trying to better their programs by getting some wins, so their not the cupcake/easy wins for the WIACs big 3.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on March 27, 2009, 07:17:00 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 26, 2009, 09:20:07 PM
Do you mean cupcakes like Wooster (ranked 7th nationally),  St Thomas (ranked 24th nationally), Carthage (receiving votes nationally), the University of Washington (D1) and the Minnesota Twins Class A minor league team?

Speaking of the Twins Class A minor league team, the Warhawks dropped the game by a 12-7 score on Thursday in Fort Meyers to close out the Florida swing.  No stats or details available, nor will the loss or stats be counted on the official NCAA statistics.

badgerwarhawk, do you know any game info?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 27, 2009, 08:49:14 AM
One thing that many do not realize is that when teams go on spring trips to a baseball destination (florida/Arizona) you often do not get to schedule your own games. Tourney directors build the schedules for you and you are often at the mercy of who else is in town that same week. Generally, the only teams you will not play on the trips are those in your own conference. ( regardless, we were once schedule to play a conference foe on a trip, but had it rained out).

My point is, do not give the coaches all of the credit or blame for the early season schedules... often, they have nothing to do with it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 27, 2009, 09:36:48 AM
No, Bobo, other than the website indicating that the game was played by our varsity reserves I don't know any of the details.

After re-reading szlongball's post I can see where that may have been what he was meaning to say and I misinterpeted it, Brewers20.  My bad, thank you for clarifying it for me.  I'm glad to see that they are working at improving their programs.  It wasn't that long ago that some were concerned that Stout may drop theirs.  That would be a bad break for the league because it would cost the automatic bid into the postseason.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on March 27, 2009, 09:52:49 AM
I agree with poppa on the whole scheduling thing, although your comments are a little bit misleading because while the coaches may not have the final say on who they end up playing, and of course you can only play who is in town at the time, they do have a say on the strength of schedule that they play down there.  At least all four years that I played on break we had a say in the types of teams we wanted to play (good vs decent vs bad).  With that said it's hard to take too much out of spring break trips for several reasons, conference contests will tell the story and like poppa said this years is going to be an interesting one!  Good luck to everyone as the northern season kicks off this weekend (hopefully).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 27, 2009, 11:29:23 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 26, 2009, 06:39:02 PM
That freshman they brought in from Viroqua is going to be 1rst team WIAC like Surman last year.
I assume you are talking about Jay Fanta? 

He sure is the real deal!!!  I was impressed with him when I watched him at the WBCA All Star Classic last year in Oshkosh.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on March 27, 2009, 11:48:45 AM
Quote from: Brewers20 on March 26, 2009, 10:35:48 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 26, 2009, 09:20:07 PM
Do you mean cupcakes like Wooster (ranked 7th nationally),  St Thomas (ranked 24th nationally), Carthage (receiving votes nationally), the University of Washington (D1) and the Minnesota Twins Class A minor league team?
I think what szlongball was saying is that  teams in the WIAC like Stout and Superior are trying to better their programs by getting some wins, so their not the cupcake/easy wins for the WIACs big 3.
Thanks Badger20 for sticking up for me. We have played Wooster and Otterbein and the others in the past. No way are any of those teams cupcake teams. By the way,I'm a chick.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on March 27, 2009, 09:49:23 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 27, 2009, 09:36:48 AM
No, Bobo, other than the website indicating that the game was played by our varsity reserves I don't know any of the details.

thanks, bw, guess they added the varsity reserve thing later after I looked at the schedule.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 27, 2009, 10:37:42 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 27, 2009, 11:29:23 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 26, 2009, 06:39:02 PM
That freshman they brought in from Viroqua is going to be 1rst team WIAC like Surman last year.
I assume you are talking about Jay Fanta? 

He sure is the real deal!!!  I was impressed with him when I watched him at the WBCA All Star Classic last year in Oshkosh.

Fanta is correct.  I think he will finish above 400 batting average in the WIAC.  La Crosse should have a very good offense this year but their pitching will be shady.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 29, 2009, 06:44:44 PM
Today's Wisconsin State Journal is reporting that Jordan Zimmermann has claimed one of the two remaining spots on the Washington Nationals' starting rotation. 

Another article:
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090328&content_id=4080438&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on March 29, 2009, 07:04:33 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 29, 2009, 06:44:44 PM
Today's Wisconsin State Journal is reporting that Jordan Zimmermann has claimed one of the two remaining spots on the Washington Nationals' starting rotation. 

yes will start april 19th
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 30, 2009, 09:59:19 AM
Not sure if anyone saw this, but former UWO pitcher Jack Taschner was traded on Friday from the San Francisco Giants to the Philedelphia Phillies.  Taschner had spent his entire ten-year career with the Giants, before the trade.

Here the link:
http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090327&content_id=4079550&vkey=news_sf&fext=.jsp&c_id=sf
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on March 31, 2009, 12:12:29 AM
By the slim margin of 4 votes to 3, UWW has been pick by the conference SID's as WIAC preseason favorites (http://www.wiacsports.com/baseball/2009Preview.html).

2009 Preseason Predictions (Voted on by WIAC Sports Information Directors)
                                                     2008 Record
1. UW-Whitewater (4)              20-4, 42-10
2. UW-Oshkosh (3)                   19-5, 29-11
3. UW-Stevens Point                16-8, 29-16
4. UW-La Crosse                       12-12, 19-20
5. UW-Platteville                        9-15, 17-23
6. UW-Superior                          4-20, 17-23
7. UW-Stout                               4-20, 12-25
( )--First-place votes

Let the free-for-all begin!!  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 01, 2009, 10:17:32 AM
So what does everyone think the pitching match-ups will be today in Oshkosh for the DH between the Titans and Warhawks?  I'm guessing everyone expects Dott to throw Game #1 for Whitewater, but after that, things could get interesting.  My prediction?

Game #1-Dott vs Rubens

Game #2-Hanson vs Kannenberg

What's everyone else think?  I'm sure Point is hoping that both games get played, as that would mean Dott would be coming back on only three days rest if he threw on Sunday in Point.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 01, 2009, 10:22:23 AM
This is going to be very interesting to watch how the WIAC teams come out of the chute today. Both teams have serious question marks in spots and today could tell the story.

By the way... still snowing in the Twin Cities. 1-2 inches on the ground right now. Amazing.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 01, 2009, 03:27:24 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 01, 2009, 10:17:32 AM
So what does everyone think the pitching match-ups will be today in Oshkosh for the DH between the Titans and Warhawks?  I'm guessing everyone expects Dott to throw Game #1 for Whitewater, but after that, things could get interesting.  My prediction?

Game #1-Dott vs Rubens

Game #2-Hanson vs Kannenberg

What's everyone else think?  I'm sure Point is hoping that both games get played, as that would mean Dott would be coming back on only three days rest if he threw on Sunday in Point.
Game #1 is indeed Dott vs Rubens

UWO leads 4-0 heading into the Bottom of the 7th. 

Rubens has faced two over the minimum through seven innings, giving up just three singles (lead-off hits in the 1st and 2nd innings) but Whitewater hasn't been able to muster much off of him, as he has retired the last 14 in a row.

Dott on the other hand has given up all four runs, on eight hits, including a pair of doubles and triples, and three walks.  Things could be worse, as UWO has left a runner in scoring position in both the 4th and 6th innings, and had a runner thrown out at the plate to end the 5th inning.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 01, 2009, 03:29:44 PM
Point was leading Stout 2-0 after 3 innings when I left.  Kyle Berry was looking good on the mound and I think had 5-6 k's through 3.  Richter hit a bullet to the fence in center and the outfielder made a tremendous catch that saved 2 runs. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 01, 2009, 03:32:59 PM
Demmin just hit a 3 run bomb to give Oshkosh a 7-0 lead.  I would say there's no need to worry any longer about Oshkosh especially since they are raking against one of the best lefty pitchers in D3.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 01, 2009, 03:41:58 PM
Oshkosh wins Game #1 via the mercy rule 10-0.....   :o

The Titans #4-6 hitters combine to go 7-11 with 2 2B's, 2 3B's, and HR.  They also account for five runs scored and seven RBI's.  All the damage was off of Dott, however only six runs were earned.

Just goes to show how fickle the game of baseball can be!!!  You can look brutal one day, and then look like "world-beaters" the next.

Game #2 Pitching Match-Up-
Hooper vs Kannenberg
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 01, 2009, 04:32:40 PM
Point wins game 1 over Stout 12-1.  I don't have any details at this point.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 01, 2009, 04:34:15 PM
Oshkosh jumps out to an early 3-0 lead after two innings of Game #2.  

Nolan Fadness leads off the 1st inning with a triple, and a Blake Berger single scores him.

Following second inning walks to Jason Fosler and Mickey Fadness, Justin Jirschele smokes a one-out, two run double to left field scoring both Fosler and M. Fadness. to give UWO a 3-0 lead.



Point knocks off Stout in Game #1, 12-1.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 01, 2009, 05:50:35 PM
After trailing 5-0, Whitewater scores five runs on five singles and a walk in the Top of the 6th inning to tie things up 5-5.

Kannenberg through well over the first five innings, giving up just three harmless singles, and striking out six.  Might be a case of a guy still trying to get his body into pitching form after being a position player the last two years, or something as simple as just having a bad inning.

Oshkosh 5
Whitewater 5

Bottom 6th
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: brewcrew2008 on April 01, 2009, 06:33:27 PM
stout's up on point 3-2 top 7
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 01, 2009, 06:49:31 PM
Game 2 final: UWO 17, UWW 5 (8 inn.) ... Fadness walkoff oppo 3-run HR to end it.

Rubens was unreal. Only two balls squared against him all day, and one of those went for an out. He gave up a solid single to CF and two 15-hoppers up the middle.

It took UWW 11 innings to mount a scoring threat. For good reason – they were so impatient. I had Rubens with 19 pitches over the last three innings. If it wasn't bad at-bats, it was bad defense and questionable pitching for UWW. The OF defense was crazy, and the IF D wasn't too slick either. Dott was OK. Hooper was decent. After those two, it was one of those days for UWW.

Dott vs. Rubens was fun to see ... finally. Too bad it was the '09 WIAC opener and not the '08 regional final. Dott fell behind everyone the second time through the order. He just didn't have it from the fourth on.

Kannenberg was cruising until the 5-spot. Pop up after pop up. To put a finer point on UWW's impatience, Kanny needed three pitches to get out of the first. Kanny was effectively pulled after giving up the lead, but UWO tacked on nine runs in the bottom of the inning, which allowed Kanny to complete the game.

Just about everyone for UWO hit the ball well today. Many extra base hits.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 01, 2009, 06:56:16 PM
Oshkosh wins Game #2 by the mercy rule as well, 17-5.  UWO answers Whitewater's five run 6th inning with nine of their own in the 6th, and ends it on a Mickey Fadness 3-run HR in the 8th for the final margin.

Nolan Fadness, Blake Berger, Mickey Fadness and Justin Jirschele combine to go 11-16 with five doubles, a triple, and two HR's, while scoring nine runs and driving in thirteen.

Kyle Kannenberg gets the complete game victory, giving up eight hits and five runs (all in the 6th inning) in eight innings, while striking out eight Warhawks.

All in all, a good start to WIAC play for the Titans!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 01, 2009, 07:29:09 PM
Point was down 4-2 to end the 8th.  Not trying to be harsh but if Point ends up losing that 2nd game they are screwed.  I think it's safe to say everyone picked Stout to finish last place as they have nothing expect Stace.  Too many Point hitters trying to pull pitches on the outside edge of the plate and not just going with the pitch opposite field.  As of right now the only guys in Points lineup that would scare anyone are Surman, Arch, Richter, and Kobach.  They have too many freshman playing right now.  I'm looking for Point, Platteville, and Stout to battle for the last 3 places in conference but for Point to compete for a top 3 finish next year.  On a side note I'm not surprised at all about Oshkosh pounding Whitewater.  Oshkosh can overcome their lackluster pitching by scoring 10 runs or more per game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: brewcrew2008 on April 01, 2009, 07:57:16 PM
Point got a walk off win 5-4, I don't have any details yet though
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 01, 2009, 09:04:01 PM
Quote from: brewcrew2008 on April 01, 2009, 07:57:16 PM
Point got a walk off win 5-4, I don't have any details yet though
Point has a runner on first with two outs, down 4-2, and proceeds to have the next four batters reach base safely via a single, walk, fielders choice (which Stout was unable to get an out on and extend the game) and double. 

Freshman Cody Koback is the hero, as his two run double wins the game for the Pointers.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 01, 2009, 09:07:13 PM
WIAC Standings (Through 4/1/09)
Oshkosh 2-0
Stevens Point 2-0
La Crosse 1-1
Platteville 1-1
Superior 0-0
Stout 0-2
Whitewater 0-2
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on April 02, 2009, 09:43:03 AM
Well I have to say yesterday was a bit surprising to me for the games in Oshkosh.  I did not expect the games to be anything like that.  I figured WW would hold UWO to less runs, I guess the Titans are out to show that Florida was a fluke and that they are one of the top teams in the Midwest.  However, it looks like WW offense wasn't a fluke and they really aren't that good.  Sorry Warhawk fans, but it looks like the pitching staff is going to have to carry the load this year, but that looks a bit shaky as well; UWOs offense is good, but 27 runs in 15 innings, wow! 

I guess I am not surprised about what happened in Stevens Point, they got two wins, and one of the games came down to the wire.   You can say what you want about Stout, but they are one of those teams that can beat you on any given day.  They don't have the talent but it's just something about them that can come out and give you a run for your money.  Glad to see the Pointers showed some resilience and came back to win with their backs against the wall in game 2; and what can I say about Cody Koback, the kid can flat out frickin' play!

The split between Platteville and LAX is no surprise, those teams match up well, and I wouldn't expect one to dominate another.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: poly god on April 02, 2009, 10:34:52 AM
I disagree Shinetime. I don't think you can pin Points problems on the freshman. The only one other than Koback to get regular playing time is Schoch. Kakwich and Iverson started the 2nd game but Kakwich was pulled after one ab and Iverson after two. I think that they are just very young overall, and they just are not all hitting together.
Now on the positive side they are WINNING. Berry looked unhittable at times yesterday and I thought Scottie Williams threw great. Nix did not pitch well the inning he was in there and that's concerns me a little.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 02, 2009, 11:46:35 AM
Good god that was ugly.  We're going to have to play a whole lot better if we want to be any kind of factor in this year's league play.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 02, 2009, 12:02:57 PM
reasons for shinetime ripping point to shreds on a daily basis aside...can we at least draw some realistic comments from the games.  I mean point isn't the most solid team ever put together, but their lineup is as strong offensively as any other team in the conference, besides UWO who as we thought pre-season appear to be in their own little world at this point.  Point however, with it's "lack of power" is among the leaders in all the power numbers in the conference, and will only get better as the season goes on. 

As was mentioned, a loss to stout is a devastating thing and shouldn't necessarily happen, but remember that they have some guys that can play and baseball is baseball.  Stout is that team that is no good, but seems to sneak up on one of the big dogs every year and take some games from them.  Losing to them will most likely take away chances of winning the league title, but certainly does not take you out of the runnings for postseason.  I mean this is the WIAC, one of the best conferences in the country in D3 ball, a loss to anyone in this conference isn't the most horrible thing out there. 

My question for shinetime is if UWSP looks shaky to you and their numbers aren't good enough to support a top three finish this year, how do you justify leaving UWW as a top 2 team?  They have the worst numbers in the league right now!  Just curious.  I'm open to differing views on things, I love it actually...but can we at least make an intelligent comment every now and then instead of just bashing teams?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on April 02, 2009, 12:54:10 PM
I agree with dagger, we have to start being realistic on here, or it just turns into a big joke.  Taking Point out of the top four is rediculous.  THEY HAVE THE BEST RECORD IN THE LEAGUE RIGHT NOW!! It doesn't matter who they've played, winning is winning.  If you're going to move anyone down on the rankings or out of the top 4 it should be WW, even though that would even be far fetched.  Good teams have set backs, but if they're truly a good team, they bounce back and find ways to win, just like Point did yesterday.  Lets get serious on here and bring some logic to what you're writing. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 02, 2009, 02:10:09 PM
I've been a Pointer fan probably longer than 90% of guys on this board and am not trying to be negative or bash Point.  I would love nothing more than to see them go to the World Series and win the WIAC.  I'm actually trying to be realistic and point out that Point has some OBVIOUS holes especially at catcher and they will struggle with any pitcher with a good curveball.  Let's not forget Point has not beaten anyone worth mentioning this year except maybe St. Olaf.  Nix has looked shaky his past few outings which is a definite concern.  I'm certainly not saying Point sucks because they do have the foundation to be a great team with Arch and Richter in the middle.  We will see this weekend what Whitewater has but I'm a little nervous for Point especially after the beat down Whitewater took Wed.  I'm setting my expectations as a split over the weekend.  I know Dott got lit up Wed but I can't see him losing back to back games.  Hopefully the weather will be warm and the wind blowing out.  Let's just hope Zalnis keeps struggling until after he's done at the softball field this weekend.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 02, 2009, 02:47:51 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 02, 2009, 02:10:09 PM
I've been a Pointer fan probably longer than 90% of guys on this board and am not trying to be negative or bash Point.   I would love nothing more than to see them go to the World Series and win the WIAC.  I'm actually trying to be realistic and point out that Point has some OBVIOUS holes especially at catcher and they will struggle with any pitcher with a good curveball.  Let's not forget Point has not beaten anyone worth mentioning this year except maybe St. Olaf.  Nix has looked shaky his past few outings which is a definite concern.  I'm certainly not saying Point sucks because they do have the foundation to be a great team with Arch and Richter in the middle.  We will see this weekend what Whitewater has but I'm a little nervous for Point especially after the beat down Whitewater took Wed.  I'm setting my expectations as a split over the weekend.  I know Dott got lit up Wed but I can't see him losing back to back games.  Hopefully the weather will be warm and the wind blowing out.  Let's just hope Zalnis keeps struggling until after he's done at the softball field this weekend.
You may "have been a bigger fan" than some of the guys on the board, but there are a couple of posters on here who actually donned the Pointer uniform, (one of which who actually wore both the Warhawk and Pointer purple) and played with some of the very guys that are starting for Point this season.  I am sure they have seen what they can do on a more consistent basis in practice, instead of just the handful of games you are able to watch. 

I'm not trying to "knock" your opinion, but at least give some reasoning behind some of your rants....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: poly god on April 02, 2009, 02:53:31 PM
Dagger is right. I think it's a luxury for Bloom to play all those guys and still win. It's not been the prettiest baseball all the time but it will certainly help down the road. At some point there going to get all those bats going at once (this weekend)? I still think there pitching is very solid! When it happens, look out!! Zielke looked great in relief yesterday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on April 02, 2009, 03:18:20 PM
Thats the thing with Point, there bats will come around.  The pitching will hopefully keep up the good work, Zielke should be 1st team All-WIAC this year, he is a very good pitcher out of the pen.  This weekend will put the bats to a big test when they face Aaron Dott, he's a tough pitcher and will be out to prove something this weekend after getting roughed up by UWO.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 02, 2009, 05:42:24 PM
Here's a question for Pointer fans.  How much patience do you have with Nix this year seeing he's a senior?  I know Zielke is a perfect closer and all WIAC but do you consider at some point having him be a starter and perhaps trying Nix as a closer?  I know Zielke pitched this past summer as a starter and did very well and has the arm to do it.  I realize when Nix is on he's lights out but if he struggles early I think Bloom should consider it.  I just hate seeing pitchers give up walks and making things easy and with Nix sometimes it gets ugly with his control. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 02, 2009, 06:48:59 PM
The ability to interchange so many new players for Point is a positive. They haven't been this deep in a while. The pitching staff has the lowest ERA in the league, and the hitting will come around. While Whitewater played well in Florida, to have a team batting average just above the Mendoza line is not a good sign. I think Point will do better than a split this weekend. I would give a victory to Dott, but after yesterday, not so sure. The weather will be crappy again, and I think that affects all players. As far as Nix goes, maybe drop him from #1 for a few starts and see what happens. Zielke deserves to start and should have been for the last 3 years.
But with only needing 6 saves to break career record for saves, he also deserves to stay as the closer. No need to pull a Lechnir and use him like Ruebens. By the way it is Alumni/Senior Weekend this weekend, so I'm guessing the team will be really pumped to play their best.
The pitcher in the second game against Stout yesterday was their ace, and is very good. His ERA is below 2.00(I believe).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: RSSmith on April 02, 2009, 07:14:36 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 02, 2009, 05:42:24 PM
Here's a question for Pointer fans.  How much patience do you have with Nix this year seeing he's a senior?  I know Zielke is a perfect closer and all WIAC but do you consider at some point having him be a starter and perhaps trying Nix as a closer?  I know Zielke pitched this past summer as a starter and did very well and has the arm to do it.  I realize when Nix is on he's lights out but if he struggles early I think Bloom should consider it.  I just hate seeing pitchers give up walks and making things easy and with Nix sometimes it gets ugly with his control. 

I'm not a Pointer fan, but I tend to agree with posters to a strand a couple of years ago on one of these boards to the effect that, in a DIII program, no coach has the luxury of having a stud closer.  The consensus then was that the four best pitchers should be starting games.  Unless you have a Kurt Yacko who can contribute at a position between saves, I haven't seen anything to make me change my mind.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 02, 2009, 09:36:50 PM
Quote from: szlongball on April 02, 2009, 06:48:59 PM
No need to pull a Lechnir and use him like Ruebens.
Yeah because who would want a guy to come in and shut down the other team in a tight situation with the game on the line and then be able to start the following day and give you a complete game.  ::) 

Rubens started four games last season, and threw CG's each of the four times.  That leads me to believe that that a guy that has won over 600 games as a Head Coach knows what he is doing just a bit!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 02, 2009, 10:55:12 PM
Check out the section for "Rookies to Watch"

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9406890/Helton-showing-signs-of-being-an-elite-hitter-again
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 03, 2009, 09:43:22 AM
I will agree that nix is a question mark everytime he goes out there!  He is very erratic at times, however he is also lights out at times.  to put him as the closer would be a potential disaster every time he went out there because of his control issues and the inability to work quickly and keep runners off the bases.  There's no more cruel treatment to your defense then messing around with batters and walking them, or taking at least 5 pitches an at bat to finish them off.  It puts your defense to sleep, and baserunners and a sleeping defense is not a good ninth inning strategy when you're trying to close the door on a team. 

I like the idea of moving him down in the rotation, maybe throw him on the midweek games instead of the bigger weekend series so that you still have a good arm throwing on wed. and can keep the other big guns fresh for the weekend.  I think zielke should be starting as well, he's clearly one of the best pitchers on the team and has been for years...but to keep him as a closer just to break the career saves record is a bit selfish don't you think?  The team would be better off with him starting, but it is what it is.  If zielke were to start the normal nix start on weekends, and nix started wed games I would then move lorenz into the closer role.  He's a power arm (for the wiac) and has pretty good off speed stuff.  he's been kind of hampered with injuries in the past, but he's got the stuff to step into that role effectively in my eyes. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 03, 2009, 09:58:22 AM
A couple of guys have brought up the save record when talking about how to use Zielke.  Something to keep in mind is that even if Zielke does break the save record this season, it COULD be broken just a year later by UWO's Jeremy Rubens, unless Rubens would become a full-time starter.  Rubens is six saves behind Zielke right now, but has another year of eligibility remianing, whereas Zielke is a senior this year.  If Rubens continues to be used the way he has been in the past, I'm guessing he will be right around Zielke's total through three years.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 03, 2009, 10:23:46 AM
I don't think that zielke breaking the save record is that important of an issue outside of his supporters!  I mean the last thing on any coaches mind, let alone bloom's is to keep zielke as the closer so he can break the record...which as cubs stated is probably going to be broken next year anyway.  It's about doing what's best for the team not an individual player's ego.  I'm sure it's a big deal to zielke to be able to have that record, as it should be (he deserves recognition for a great career that has received little attention)...but knowing him, as much as he cares about that he could care less if he gets to that mark or not as long as point wins and he has a successful year on the mound.  Personal records are great, but players would rather be on a successful team then rack up a bunch of honors on a bad team!  at least I would...and sometimes that means that you have to give a little to get a little. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 03, 2009, 10:59:35 AM
How did Reubens do in the WIAC tournament last year and the regionals?  Not much of a factor as I recall. That is what I meant. And though Lechnir has won over 600 games, when did he go to the World Series last? It has been Whitewater and Point lately. The record for saves would be the school record so I don't think Reubens will break that. Would definetly rather have Zielke starting, but not my call. And you're right, winning is the most important thing, not individual records, as I 'm sure he would agree.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 03, 2009, 11:34:28 AM
Quote from: Dagger on April 03, 2009, 09:43:22 AM
There's no more cruel treatment to your defense then messing around with batters and walking them, or taking at least 5 pitches an at bat to finish them off.  It puts your defense to sleep, and baserunners and a sleeping defense is not a good ninth inning strategy when you're trying to close the door on a team. 
Sorry that I called you "Bootshong" whenever you fell asleep in Oshkosh. Hard to believe I couldn't think of anything cleverer when I was in school. A Cameron Crazy I am not.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 03, 2009, 11:39:24 AM
Quote from: szlongball on April 03, 2009, 10:59:35 AM
How did Reubens do in the WIAC tournament last year and the regionals?  Not much of a factor as I recall. That is what I meant. And though Lechnir has won over 600 games, when did he go to the World Series last? It has been Whitewater and Point lately. The record for saves would be the school record so I don't think Reubens will break that. Would definetly rather have Zielke starting, but not my call. And you're right, winning is the most important thing, not individual records, as I 'm sure he would agree.
Just for the record, in the WIAC Tournament Rubens was 1-1, and in Regionals he did not pitch.

As far as going to the World Series last, it's been five years since UWO made it, but he does have a World Series Title to his resume, something only current WIAC coaches Vodenlich and Lechnir can claim.

And I think EVERYONE who ever wore a WIAC uniform would agree, winning is more important than individual records.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on April 03, 2009, 11:40:13 AM
Zielke will remain the closer for Point guaranteed.  Bloom knows how valuable it is to be able to close games the way Zielke does, and knows that not everyone has the capability to do it.  How do you think Zielke would feel if he was starting, and he went 8 strong innings, left the game, and see the closer give up the lead?  IDK about anyone else, but that would really burn me.  I say you stick with what's working, he is a great closer, and he has developed that reputation.  I don't think it would be wise for Bloom to start messing with the rotation at this point in the season, stick with what you prepared all fall and winter for, and the success will come.
After this year, however, i think if Cody Koback can handle it, he should step in and play the role as closer, similar to the Yacko kid from Chapman.  He definitely has the talent to do it and not putting him on the mound in some way is a waste.  However, having him be a starting pitcher and play center would be way too much.  With Zimmy pitching and hitting was different because he didn't play the field, he just DH'd which saved his legs a lot.  But playing the field and being a starting pitcher would ware the kid out.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 03, 2009, 11:50:17 AM
I wasn't suggesting that bloom "should" change the roation, I was just throwing out a possible scenario on how things could work out with the staff he has.  zielke will and should remain the closer and nix will remain the top one or two on the staff.  As for the closer blowing a lead, it's frustrating for any pitcher to lose a lead in the late innings after the ball is out of your hands, however zielke isn't immune to doing the same thing at some point.  I would gladly have him closing the game after I threw, but he's still human.

However it would be foolish to not adjust the team according to results...you can't just pick and path and follow it if it's going to run you off of a cliff!  Take an exit and find a better route on the way if you see it coming.  There's no reason that he couldn't mix things up a little if he needed to (which i dont think they do).  and the wiac isn't quiet the big leagues so as far as routines and everything goes, I think it's a fairly easy switch for a pitcher to make.  Maybe the arm strength and other issues come into play that would make switching less desirable, but overall it's certainly a relatively easy change to make at this level.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 03, 2009, 11:51:03 AM
Quote from: OshDude on April 03, 2009, 11:34:28 AM
Quote from: Dagger on April 03, 2009, 09:43:22 AM
There's no more cruel treatment to your defense then messing around with batters and walking them, or taking at least 5 pitches an at bat to finish them off.  It puts your defense to sleep, and baserunners and a sleeping defense is not a good ninth inning strategy when you're trying to close the door on a team. 
Sorry that I called you "Bootshong" whenever you fell asleep in Oshkosh. Hard to believe I couldn't think of anything cleverer when I was in school. A Cameron Crazy I am not.

haha, well there's been less clever names than that trust me!  and I was no doubt subject to the most random errors you could imagine over the course of the year.  pretty much the more routine the ball, the higher percentage I had on making an error...I don't know must have had too much time to think about it I guess.  I recall last years oshkosh series, which had hurricane force winds blowing right in my face and I threw a ball to first that started about waist high and flew over the fence!  I don't think I have that much carry on the ball haha...but yea I stumbled around on the infield plenty in my day, what can you do? 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 03, 2009, 11:56:17 AM
Around here we prefer former athletes who know their strengths and limitations, rather than the ones who think they walked on water.  :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 03, 2009, 12:07:20 PM
I can barely swim, so walking on it is out of the question...I was just happy to salvage a respectable senior year.  I'm really not on here for self promotion at all, my older brother (D1 player) made sure I knew all my limitations very clearly! :) 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 03, 2009, 01:02:50 PM
Quote from: Dagger on April 03, 2009, 11:51:03 AM
Quote from: OshDude on April 03, 2009, 11:34:28 AM
Quote from: Dagger on April 03, 2009, 09:43:22 AM
There's no more cruel treatment to your defense then messing around with batters and walking them, or taking at least 5 pitches an at bat to finish them off.  It puts your defense to sleep, and baserunners and a sleeping defense is not a good ninth inning strategy when you're trying to close the door on a team. 
Sorry that I called you "Bootshong" whenever you fell asleep in Oshkosh. Hard to believe I couldn't think of anything cleverer when I was in school. A Cameron Crazy I am not.

haha, well there's been less clever names than that trust me!  and I was no doubt subject to the most random errors you could imagine over the course of the year.  pretty much the more routine the ball, the higher percentage I had on making an error...I don't know must have had too much time to think about it I guess.  I recall last years oshkosh series, which had hurricane force winds blowing right in my face and I threw a ball to first that started about waist high and flew over the fence!  I don't think I have that much carry on the ball haha...but yea I stumbled around on the infield plenty in my day, what can you do? 
Glad I've become more refined in my baseball watching. I didn't say anything during the UWO/UWW DH. I even thought UWW got screwed on a few calls.

I probably won't chime in unless our CF gets bumrushed again  ;). Anyway, I'm not smart enough to come up with puns for Koback or Fritz. Bootshong and Stew-eeee5 is about the best I can muster. Wait ... if our CF gets attacked  ;), I thought of one for Fritz. Gonna have to announce "earmuffs" for it, though.

Can we read some stories about last year's get-together now? I played so many games, yet I never got a brawl story out of my years on the diamond.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 03, 2009, 01:44:10 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on April 03, 2009, 11:56:17 AM
Around here we prefer former athletes who know their strengths and limitations, rather than the ones who think they walked on water.  :)
Does chewing gum and spitting seeds at the same time count as a "strength?"  If not, I guess I don't have any....  :D :'( :D  I'm all limitations!!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on April 03, 2009, 02:07:05 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 03, 2009, 01:02:50 PM

I thought of one for Fritz. Gonna have to announce "earmuffs" for it, though.


If it has anything to do with what happened in WW last year, lets not go there.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 03, 2009, 03:56:18 PM
well I'll pull bench clearing fight #1 of my career out of retirement here....(these both happened in UWO by the way!)

...it's my freshman year, walked onto UWW who at the time was a pretty good team so I was real excited and everything that goes along with all of that.  So we get to the UWO series which is a huge deal and we got our talks to fire us up from the players and the coaches and all that good stuff all week.  Keep in mind this series featured shere who played for uww and then transferred to uwo.  so we start the game, both teams of course are all jacked up, tension everywhere....shere comes up, and tomasciewicz hits him in the head with a curve ball.  I can say this was not done intentionally...lolly pop curve ball lefty against lefty so it happens, but obviously shere thought it was intentional and started walking out at kevin.  UWO's bench immediately left their dugout with resulted in us leaving ours shortly thereafter.  While the benches are clearing, tomaciewicz is running off the field and jumped the fence into our crowd along the right field line, which just so happened to be where a number of our large football players were standing!  Back on the field I wander out into this mess of giant men, oshkosh in those days was put together pretty well, and I...well I'm not exactly a power lifter (especially freshman year).  So I'm just kind of walking around taking it all in pulling a leg or an arm here and there...During my travels through this carnage I witnessed the two highlights of the skirmish happen within feet of me...

...first was the knock out haymaker coach henry landed on the UWO redshirt was punched in him in the back of the head first.  henry was simply holding down feiner...for good reason if you've ever seen the man...and sweatie clad freshman guy comes up and starts beating on henry for some reason, so being the experienced big league player that he was he reacted by smashing in his face.  That was a sight to be seen, I can't say that he was wrong in doing it though, and i'm pretty unbiased I think!  The kid punched him in the head first I saw everything!....

...meanwhile I head off in another direction and stumble across a person I wont name strangling (literally) our pitching coach.  Face was beet red, slightly purple...so the death grip was on and the whole time this was happening the strangler was shouting/spitting, with veins popping out of his neck, I will F@#$ing kill you!  at this point I cried, not really but I think I wanted to....anyway after that our pitching coach could not talk for two days, no joke!....

....I forgot, and I mentioned this in a previous post, that the first person I ran into was mancusso and that was enough to make me want to quit life!....

...anyway so the day ended with one of our coaches being arrested, our team getting escorted to our bus by six officers of the law with their dogs in tow, and several bruises scattered throughout the players....and some suspensions mixed in there! 

so I would say all the hype was lived up to in that first series against the conference rival! 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 03, 2009, 04:05:05 PM
UWO brawl numero deuce to follow....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 03, 2009, 04:36:00 PM
Dagger-
Great stuff man!!!!  You got me rolling on the ground laughing twice this week!!!

I never had the pleasure of getting into a true brawl against a conference rival.  The closest was against River Falls, after their catcher tagged a guy out at the plate and proceeded to bounce the ball off of our runner's helmet as he was heading into the dugout.

Also had a "skirmish" the same year down on our spring trip, but that was rather "tame" as well.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 04, 2009, 08:18:02 AM
Point and Whitewater will get their 2 games in today but it's looking like snow and 32 tomorrow for a high and another bad day on Monday.  Will Whitewater have to come up here again for a DH or will they not get those games in?  I remember two years ago Point went to platteville and they ended up playing 3 7 inning games and didn't get the 4th in so that's why I'm wondering.  I was thinking they may have tried to do that today and have 3 games but haven't seen anything on the website indicating a schedule change.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 04, 2009, 09:35:22 AM
Thanks, Dagger! I was at both the UWW and UWSP skirmishes at UWO. If I recall correctly didn't Kevin T. come into the game (which was a blowout, right?) late out of the pen? That's the red flag for me, if I remember it correctly, of course. Why in the world would an All-American future draft pick see the mound in that situation? Loved the part of T high-tailing it out of there. I didn't see that part. Last I saw of him, he was ducking and getting partially disrobed.

It's a good thing Shere's shoulder caught some of it before his face did. There was so much going on that it overwhelmed my senses. I didn't know which fight to watch. The ones I chose to watch were pretty savage, baseball fight or otherwise.

I won't forget seeing a major leaguer earning a pension get taken away in a squad car for fighting in a D-III game. Getting Henry out of your dugout was quite a battle too. What a drama-filled day that was! And I'm with you; I saw some crazy heat-of-the-moment stuff that doesn't need to be detailed. I was/am just curious, like I'm sure we all are, what it was like to be on the field during something like that. Well, that and your gameplan for survival and whatnot.

So you stayed clear of Vince, Korey and Lucas? Good call. Self-preservation is a great human instinct, isn't it?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 04, 2009, 09:42:39 AM
Quote from: Brewers20 on April 03, 2009, 02:07:05 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 03, 2009, 01:02:50 PM

I thought of one for Fritz. Gonna have to announce "earmuffs" for it, though.


If it has anything to do with what happened in WW last year, lets not go there.
LOL. I have no idea what you're referencing, but something tells me I'd like to know.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 04, 2009, 07:49:02 PM
anybody that witnessed the uww-uwsp game...please enlighten me!  Thanks
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 04, 2009, 07:57:49 PM
Point lost game 1 7-2.  Whitewater pulled their starter early after Surman hit a 2 run homer and brought in a lefty that shut us down.  Game 2 Point was winning 7-2 in the 7th and Zielke walked 2 guys, hit a batter, and gave up a grand slam.  Whitewater tied it up in the top of the 9th as Point brought in Hemmy and he gave up a solo shot.  Next guy doubled and unfortunately I had to leave.  Point in the bottom of the 8th really hit the ball hard but right to the outfielders.  I'm assuming Point lost game 2 but don't know for sure.  Momentum was in Whitwater's favor and Point had the bottom coming up in the 9th.  Rob Coe absolutely killed Point today with the bat.  2 doubles and a HR 5 RBI'S. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 04, 2009, 09:39:16 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 04, 2009, 07:57:49 PM
I'm assuming Point lost game 2 but don't know for sure.

Confirmed ShineTime...UWW 9 UWSP 7.  UWW sweeps the twin bill.

Game One Box (http://www.uwwsports.com/sports/baseball/2009/uwsp15.htm)
Game Two Box (http://www.uwwsports.com/sports/baseball/2009/uwsp16.htm)
Recap (http://www.uwwsports.com/news/baseball/2009/4/4/bb442009_SP12.asp)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 04, 2009, 10:00:35 PM
Oshkosh splits with St. Norbert, losing 5-4 in game one, taking the nightcap 7-4.

Game one box (http://www.titans.uwosh.edu/Baseball/2009/SNC1.html)
Rubens surrenders 2 out, run scoring triple for the winning run for SNC.  SNC's first win at Oshkosh in 32 years.
Game two box (http://www.titans.uwosh.edu/Baseball/2009/SNC2.html)
Down 4-2 in 5th, Titans score 4 in 5th, 1 in the 6th for the final margin.  UWO 53-10-1 all-time vs SNC.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 04, 2009, 10:06:09 PM
I wasn't there, but it appears the UWO defense led to a split against St. Norbert, which scored four unearned runs (five errors) off Ryan Demmin (8 IP, 3 H, 4 BB, 1 HBP, 4 R, 0 ER, 2 E) in a 5-4 win in the opener. Jeremy Rubens got the loss after ceding a two-out RBI triple in the ninth. Tony Jandron stuck out 12 Titans and drove in two runs. UWO twice came from behind to win game 2, 7-4.

EDIT: Wish I would have known you were on it, BoBo!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 04, 2009, 10:06:57 PM
La Cosse sweeps Superior (http://perth.uwlax.edu/Athletics/mbaseball/) 14-4 in 8 innings and 14-5.  UWL has won 16 straight games (46 out of the last 47, too) over the Yellowjackets.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 04, 2009, 10:23:56 PM
Platteville and Stout split (http://www.uwplatt.edu/athletics/baseball/2009/stout.html) at Menomonie...Stout taking the first game 13-9, the Pioneers winning game two, 16-3 in 7 inninings.  UW-P second baseman Jason Jacobson had nearly a perfect day at the plate, going 9-10 on the day, including a Platteville school record 6 for 6 in the opener.  Stout had 4 players with 2 or more hits in game 1, including Brandon O'Connell with 2 HR's and 6 RBI's.  Hitters day at Stout.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on April 05, 2009, 07:05:34 PM
From what I saw at Point against UWW: Game 1 was similar to last weekend against St Norberts in game 1.  Point couldn't hit the ball and the defense struggled.  In game 2 the bats came alive and put some runs on the board.  Unfortunately they couldn't hold on to the lead. 

Looks like they could have played both today, too bad they canceled, because tomorrow looks like bad news.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 05, 2009, 08:56:46 PM
No make up date was scheduled when Sunday's games were canceled.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 05, 2009, 11:02:30 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 05, 2009, 08:56:46 PM
No make up date was scheduled when Sunday's games were canceled.

bw, Points website (http://athletics.uwsp.edu/index.aspx?path=baseball&tab=menssports) indicates a monday April 6 make-up for the sunday DH.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 06, 2009, 09:49:25 AM
Yesterday WHITEWATER'S website indicated that no make up date had been scheduled but checking it today I noticed they've corrected that.  I thought it was odd that they wouldn't try to get it in today. 

So the WARHAWKS could play two today, two tomorrow, two Friday and two Saturday.   Eight games in six days.  I wonder if they might cancel the Tuesday nonconference doublehitter against Carroll University.  That's a lot of stress on a pitching staff.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 06, 2009, 09:53:53 AM
have they changed the ridiculous conference rule yet, that if they don't make it up today that those two games are lost?  I can't believe that rule has stood for as long as it has, just doesn't make any sense to me, but what can you do I guess.  That could really really hurt point in the end, but I guess it could go both ways and really help them if they were to lose two more should they be played so I guess it's kind of a catch 22.  This happened to them a couple years ago (missed two conf. games) and it almost cost them dearly come postseason, because of the percentage points in the end...I believe it was platteville, and this is not the triple header weekend that was two years ago, this was the year before that...so 3 years ago I suppose.  Hopefully they get played today or some other time.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on April 06, 2009, 10:41:00 AM
Looks like weather will not be an issue today in Stevens Point.  The weather channel website said it will be a bit windy but no precipitation of any kind is in the forecast.  I am in Wausau, which is 30 minutes north of Point, and it's clear skies with a little breeze, usually the weather isn't much different between here and Point.  Too bad it wasn't like this yesterday, I would've been able to stay and watch.  Oh well maybe I am bad luck.  Anyway first pitch is at 1pm, GO POINTERS!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 06, 2009, 11:08:24 AM
I believe the conference rule has changed.  Rather than count them as losses they simply do not count them at all.  So you can have a situation where teams do not play the same number of games and their position is determined by w/l percentage of the conference games they have played. 

Point and Platteville played 23 games in 2007 while the rest of the league played 24.   

 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 06, 2009, 11:58:03 AM
yeah I knew they didn't count them as losses, I just think it is foolish to not allow them to make them up at another date down the road.  You get one day to replay the games and then they are lost!  Three years ago, and maybe it was against stout or something, but the games on a sunday were cancelled on saturday, and then of course it was beautiful on sunday, and then monday it was crappy and they were cancelled again and then could not be made up.  Well point either almost didnt make the tourny that year or almost lost a seed (I don't remember) because of those two games, because they had the same number of losses, but two (presumably) fewer wins.  I just think that if both teams can find a way to play the games, and you would think that those two conf. games are more important than non conf games, that the league would allow them to do it!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 06, 2009, 12:08:41 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 04, 2009, 09:35:22 AM

I won't forget seeing a major leaguer earning a pension get taken away in a squad car for fighting in a D-III game. Getting Henry out of your dugout was quite a battle too. What a drama-filled day that was! And I'm with you; I saw some crazy heat-of-the-moment stuff that doesn't need to be detailed. I was/am just curious, like I'm sure we all are, what it was like to be on the field during something like that. Well, that and your gameplan for survival and whatnot.

So you stayed clear of Vince, Korey and Lucas? Good call. Self-preservation is a great human instinct, isn't it?

well the game plan once you get on the field is really....well you really don't have time for a game plan!  At least I didn't.  I guess it all depends on the type of person you are too, I mean I went out to break stuff up and just be a good teammate, I wasn't out there to beat somebody up!  However there were clearly others who were looking to do just that.  Several guys had a specific target and you could see them looking around for them and then taking off after them, while others just wanted to fight the first person they ran into.  My game plan was to play peace maker and try to talk some sense into the guys that were bashing each others faces in for no reason!  I mean everything happens so fast you just react and my reaction was to not get suspended because I actually enjoyed playing college baseball, and so I found our best players and made sure that they were not doing anything stupid so that they too could continue to play.   Like I said before as I was wondering around the piles of human just kind of taking it all in, because well I wasn't going to make a dent in any of the fights, not to mention that most of them were already in full action and had guys breaking them up already.  From what I have seen there are the fighters and there are the ones who make sure nobody actually kills anyone!  I walked around until I found a fight or a near fight that didn't have the (non-fighters) present and then tried to step in/protect our guys.   I'm sure all of that would have changed had somebody stepped up to me and jacked me in the face though! ???

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on April 06, 2009, 12:14:09 PM
Does anyone know why Brad Demmin didn't start either of the games agains St. Norberts?  I see he came in at the end of the first game for an inning, but he didn't appear in game two at all.  I'm guessing something happened at practice, because he played complete games in the DH agains Marian.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 06, 2009, 12:23:34 PM
UWO fight #2 was much more tame than the first one I endured at that field.  As you all probably know our catcher got taken out at the plate for no reason, and against all conference rules, by a UWO player who had no problems last year taking out catchers for fun...and unfortunately taking them out for extended periods of time!  so that happened, and in this scenario I'm now a senior of course, and so I run in from short and start jawing at the baserunner and then all h@ll breaks lose and the next thing I see is the wave of UWO uniforms coming at me and bloom...shortly thereafter one of our players got dragged back to the backstop by a hoard of UWO men and they had a little episode back there.  I ran into one of UWO's better/bigger players first and basically just ended up holding him in one place, as I thought he kind of had that look in his eyes!  So I really didn't do much in the second one either...this one was more of the one isolated fight behind home plate, and then a bunch of dirty looks and F bombs!  UWW UWO fight was several violent fights scattered all over the place!  :o  What you have to take into consideration while you're out there is what am I going to do and what is the purpose/outcome of doing that and is it worth it.  For never really being a violent type going and starting a fist fight wasn't worth it.  Like I said before if somebody would have started something with me or someone on my team near by I would have had no problem jumping in and throwing some punches...ultimately your purpose out there is protect your guys, I chose to do so by making sure some of the other guys were occupied.

I think the best part of the second one, as I was a little more relaxed this time around and could take more of it in, was the umpires reaction!  They just about crapped their pants, the home plate ump stood his ground and helped clear the fight behind the plate, but the base ump looked like he was on fire and ran out of the mob screaming! haha...Everyone was pretty well in control, and I didn't have any issues with my captive, other then him trying to get away to go fight someone...I just held on and told him it wasn't worth it...actually have photos of this too if you don't believe any of my facts! :)

all in all it was a pretty tame fight other then the one brawl by the backstop!  The best part about the fights though is that after it's all said and done you still have to go play the rest of the game...not sure I've had that much adrenaline for a couple innings ever before, so that was quiet the rush playing the rest of those games.  Never do you want to pound a team more badly than after something like that happens!  Made for an intense finish to both games!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan20 on April 06, 2009, 01:15:17 PM
Quote from: Brewers20 on April 06, 2009, 12:14:09 PM
Does anyone know why Brad Demmin didn't start either of the games agains St. Norberts?  I see he came in at the end of the first game for an inning, but he didn't appear in game two at all.  I'm guessing something happened at practice, because he played complete games in the DH agains Marian.
Brad had a pinched nerve from practice the day before and was unable to squeeze his hand
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on April 06, 2009, 01:29:43 PM
Quote from: Titan20 on April 06, 2009, 01:15:17 PM
Quote from: Brewers20 on April 06, 2009, 12:14:09 PM
Does anyone know why Brad Demmin didn't start either of the games agains St. Norberts?  I see he came in at the end of the first game for an inning, but he didn't appear in game two at all.  I'm guessing something happened at practice, because he played complete games in the DH agains Marian.
Brad had a pinched nerve from practice the day before and was unable to squeeze his hand
I see.  Thanks for the update.  Will he play this week?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 06, 2009, 01:39:58 PM
"my captive" is the best choice of words I've seen on here in a long time. Thanks for the posts, Dagger.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan20 on April 06, 2009, 02:32:41 PM
Quote from: Brewers20 on April 06, 2009, 01:29:43 PM
Quote from: Titan20 on April 06, 2009, 01:15:17 PM
Quote from: Brewers20 on April 06, 2009, 12:14:09 PM
Does anyone know why Brad Demmin didn't start either of the games agains St. Norberts?  I see he came in at the end of the first game for an inning, but he didn't appear in game two at all.  I'm guessing something happened at practice, because he played complete games in the DH agains Marian.
Brad had a pinched nerve from practice the day before and was unable to squeeze his hand
I see.  Thanks for the update.  Will he play this week?
as far as i no he is going to play v stout
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 06, 2009, 07:24:59 PM
UWW takes the 1st game of the rescheduled DH at Stevens Point 7-5.  No details available at this time. 

The second game should probably be just about over or over, but no score posted as of this time.  After the results of the games at Oshkosh, this has to be at least a mild surprise, UWW taking the first 3 games of the set at Point with a chance to sweep the weekend.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 06, 2009, 07:45:00 PM
Stout took game 1 vs Platteville 13-5 and is tied in the nightcap 8-8 going into the top of the 9th...Platteville scored 7 in the first and 1 in the 2nd to take the early 8-0 lead, only to have Stout claw their way back into it, with single runs in the 2nd, 4th and 5th and a 5 spot in the 3rd.  Platteville's 7 in the first came on only 2 hits, 1 error and 5 walks.  Platteville is mounting a threat in the top of the 9th with 2 on via singles after the first batter grounded out.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 06, 2009, 07:47:00 PM
Whitewater is leading Point in the top of the 9th, 4-3 according to the Point website.

EDIT:  UWW takes the DH by identical 7-5 scores.  Important weekend sweep in Point by the Warhawks!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 06, 2009, 08:31:02 PM
The website is confusing.  It says Point lost 7-5 but the previous scores were reported differently.  For instance Saturday's Point losses were recorded 2-7 and 7-9.  Today's first game was recorded as a loss 5-7.  WHITEWATER'S website is reporting it as a 7-5 WARHAWK win so I assume that we did win and for whatever reason whoever put it on Point's website changed the format. 

I wasn't sure what to expect out of this series.  I was hoping we'd at least split and I figured after the Oshkosh losses we really needed to take 3 out of 4 to keep things interesting.  But winning all four is a big boost.  Now I just hope we've got the pitching to get through this weekend's series against LaCrosse.  They seem to be playing very well right now.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on April 06, 2009, 08:32:12 PM
Quote from: BoBo on April 06, 2009, 07:47:00 PM
Whitewater is leading Point in the top of the 9th, 4-3 according to the Point website.

EDIT:  UWW takes the DH by identical 7-5 scores.  Important weekend sweep in Point by the Warhawks!!

Important? I'd say huge, Bobo, huge!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 06, 2009, 09:18:06 PM
Rob Coe: 8 for 15, 8 RBI, 5 runs scored
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 07, 2009, 06:38:59 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 06, 2009, 08:31:02 PM
Now I just hope we've got the pitching to get through this weekend's series against LaCrosse.  They seem to be playing very well right now.

They seem to play very well against Superior...as I mentioned the other day, they rarely lose to the Yellowjackets, winning 46 of the last 47.  Hopefully, UWW can start them on a losing streak starting Thursday.  ;)

Quote from: Barber Greene on April 06, 2009, 08:32:12 PM
Quote from: BoBo on April 06, 2009, 07:47:00 PM
Whitewater is leading Point in the top of the 9th, 4-3 according to the Point website.

EDIT:  UWW takes the DH by identical 7-5 scores.  Important weekend sweep in Point by the Warhawks!!
Important? I'd say huge, Bobo, huge!!!

I was trying not to get too carried away with a successful weekend in Point...a lot of ball still to be played...it all goes for not if they have a poor outing vs UWL at the end of this week...team BA still very lackluster - .288 for all games (.270 in conference) - although it's on the rise after this weekend - and a fielding percentage not a great deal better. Hopefully as the weather heats up, they will too - I'd like to be cautiously optimistic, however.  :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 07, 2009, 07:40:47 AM
I Coach Bloom kept his brother on the roster and told Coe he wasn't good enough to play for Point.  Rennicke is doing great but I'm pretty sure Coe would be our catcher and Point would've taken at least 2 maybe 3 of the games this weekend with Coe.  He killed us bottom line and Point is now definitely out of conference title talk even though it's early.  There's no way Point beats Oshkosh all 4 and probably will only at least split with LaCrosse.  People can rip my posts all they want but there's a lot of truth behind them.  Too many freshman in the lineup and don't have that big homerun threat in the middle like the past few years.  Pitching IMO is also not as great as everyone expected.  Nix is the same old Nix.  Dealin for 5 and than gets rocked or walks everyone.  Berry doesn't get support behind him, Delorit didn't look good at all on Saturday and looks like he regressed from last year and Scott Williams just won't get it done against the quality teams in the WIAC.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 07, 2009, 09:40:42 AM
first of all, when robbie coe was at point he wasn't good enough to play as indicated by him not playing!  he looked good this past weekend, but maybe he's matured into a player that he was not when he was at point.  Nobody wanted zimmerman out of highschool and now look at him, people develop into players that they once were not sometimes.  Plus on field talent is not all that goes into putting together a team and keeping some guys, chemistry and off field behavior are big with the pointers and it shows if you've ever spent time around them!  So to simply say coach bloom got rid of coe to keep his brother on the team is foolish.  Garret has a great bat, not to mention it's from the left side of the plate, and as a catcher bloom receives the ball as well if not better than anyone in the conference.  He does not have a strong arm, but that's no secret, I'm just saying in a heads up competition at the time coe was at point bloom consistently outperformed him so say what you want now.  Also rob was hitting next to nothing coming into this series so I'm sure you wouldn't have been saying that two weeks ago.  Trust me, when you play your old team, you seem to muster up a little bit of extra energy to shove up their a$$es!  Now I"m certainly not saying that rob is a bad player, he lit us up this weekend no doubt about it...I'm just saying that he had a fair shot at point and it just didn't work out for him, I wish him luck at WW.

As for the Pointers....

They are in my eyes also out of the title runnings for this year, unless ww and osh find a way to blow some games and point is perfect from here on out they are done.  To hope for a split against a hot uwl team may be a legitimate hope at this point, but we'll see what lax is made of this weekend!  They are going to need to muster up a little magic to see the ncaa tourny this year, but as you all know as long as point in is the conf. tourny they are a favorite to take home the lumber!  I don't think there's any need to worry about point's lineup or their youth, they have been doing just fine and will only get better, and the pitching staff is prone to a bad series every now and then.  They are still in the top tier of staffs in the conf without question.  Delorit is a guy that relies on his natural movement and sometimes it just isn't working for him, on those days he can get hit around a little yes because he's not overpowering, but no worries with him...he'll be back.  Scottie Williams would be a top 2 pitcher on almost any of the other teams in the conference easily, so that's a joke to say that he can't get it done....Let's give them more then one series in freezing cold conditions before we start bashing individuals, not the best conditions for a pitcher and if you have every touched a baseball or played an inning you would know that that was certainly far from a pitchers weekend as far as the weather was concerned. 

I can say this though, point fans have a legitimate reason to be nervous right now! ??? :'(
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on April 07, 2009, 10:10:27 AM
I drove down to game 2 yesterday and it was the same story as what I saw in game 2 on Saturday.  Point came out swinging the bat well and pitching well, but it tapered off which is what kills you in this conference.  You have to consistently put runs up on the board because no team in the WIAC lays down, well the majority of them don't.  The Pointers definitely have the talent; it's just a matter of putting it all together.  I'm sure they will put it together by the time the conference tournament comes around. 

IDK if anyone remembers 2006 at all, but in a series at Oshkosh that was just like this last weekend (two on Saturday, canceled Sunday, and two on Monday) we got swept by the Titans two weeks before the conference tournament.  Nobody expected us to go anywhere.  They thought we were going to go two and out in the tourney and say see ya next year have a great summer.  Well look what we did.  WIAC conference tourney champs, regional champs, fifth at the D-III World Series!!  I know the Pointer fans remember that so I hope they're not giving up on the season after this weekend.

Let's not judge the outcome of the whole season on one weekend of baseball.  Yes, this leaves a bad feeling in my stomach watching the Warhawks take all four at the Pointers home park, but funny things happen in sports that nobody expects.  Let's give it a few more weeks before we take anybody out of contention for a conference title.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 07, 2009, 04:43:12 PM
after thinking about what took place this weekend for a little bit today, I have come to these simple conclusions! 

1.  Point is not as bad as some people are thinking right now after getting swept at home!  The only lost one of those four games by more than two runs, and prolly should or at least could have won the other three.  I'm sure you could say that about anyone's losses (that they could have won) but point was in a position to capture some W's in all of the two run games.

2.  WW may not be all that great, and no doubt sweeping point at point is a fantastic feat, but the fact remains that they still have NO offensive numbers and that will not hold out all season.  Granted they find ways to win and as long as that happens I guess who cares what your batting average is, but the run production and all other offensive outputs are embarrassing for them right now...especially being the perennial offensive machine that they've been in the past.  You could say don't fix it if it's not broken, but if you're a warhawk follower you would sure think you'd like to see some better numbers coming in the near future.  lax, platt, and superior are not pushovers and if they can't score runs then they will lose games to them....Same goes for any other team out there, and especially Point.

but looking at numbers, and I'm talking just looking at numbers alone here...It appears that Point is fine, and WW may need some help!  Point is hitting nearly 40 pts higher as a team, has almost double the runs scored and rbi's and has a higher team fielding%.  All other offensive numbers favor point as well.  And I"m obviously biased in my post here, and I'm not trying to hide that fact, just looking for some comfort in the numbers...and it appears to be there!  What are all your thoughts?   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 07, 2009, 05:12:01 PM
point get's beat by ripon in game one today AT POINT by a score of 12-14!  Yikes....I'm becoming cautiously optimistic here :-\

I know they have it in them, but at some point it needs to come out! :(
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 07, 2009, 06:44:33 PM
They were down 10-1 today and 14-5 in the 9th and scored 7 in the 9th to make it close.  Fritz had 2 HR'S.  They were winning game 2 2-0 in the 2nd.  The funny thing now is Point could win every game the rest of the year and not get an at large berth.  I'll say it again Point will be very good next year if they get a pitcher or two because their entire offense will get a year of experience.  They will be MEDIOCRE this year.  They have the ability to beat a great team on any given day but could also lose to anyone.  I still don't see them finishing top 4 in conference and quite frankly wouldn't want to see them play Oshkosh first game and get mercy ruled.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 07, 2009, 06:58:37 PM
Playing their first game of the year at Prucha Field, UWW's bats awaken ever-so-slightly and take game 1 today from Carroll University 16-6 in 7 innings; game 2 scoreless.  This is the 4th time in the last 5 games Carroll has lost via the mercy rule.

Game 1 box and recap (http://www.uwwsports.com/News/baseball/2009/4/7/bb472009_Carroll.asp?path=baseball)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2009, 09:35:24 PM
The WARHAWKS swept Carroll U taking the second game 9-3.  Riley Tincher goes 5 innings surrendering 2 hits and 2 runs striking out 8 for his second win.  Wessels goes 2x3 with 2 RBI including a triple.  Rechlitz goes 2x4. 

http://www.uwwsports.com/sports/baseball/2009/carroll2.htm

Zalnis goes  2x3 with 5 RBI in game one.   Doug Hansen goes six innings gives up 5 hits and 2 runs for the win.

Carroll uses 11 pitchers in the twin bill.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 08, 2009, 12:24:46 AM
Quote from: Dagger on April 07, 2009, 04:43:12 PM
but looking at numbers, and I'm talking just looking at numbers alone here...It appears that Point is fine, and WW may need some help!  Point is hitting nearly 40 pts higher as a team, has almost double the runs scored and rbi's and has a higher team fielding%.  All other offensive numbers favor point as well.  And I"m obviously biased in my post here, and I'm not trying to hide that fact, just looking for some comfort in the numbers...and it appears to be there!  What are all your thoughts?   
I know you're looking at raw numbers, but I think UWW's schedule to date has been much tougher. Before the Carroll DH, UWW played Washington, Carthage (Perez/Ruffie), St. Thomas (Schuld/Stone), Wooster, Oshkosh (Rubens/Kannenberg), Point and Otterbein. Considering Otterbein was probably the weakest opponent, that's pretty badass.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 08, 2009, 09:56:10 AM
yeah, that's for sure a rough start and no doubt a reason for the lower then normal stats...but we played similar schedules in the past and still had good numbers coming home.  I really had nothing to go on there, just trying to make myself feel better!  haha...it's way to early to get nervous, but after a couple more games if things don't start to look up for the pointers I'm going to be really nervous.  I still think they make the tourny easily, although it may be the 4 seed this year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 08, 2009, 10:01:47 AM
A portion of the renovation of Prucha Field has begun and is nearly completed.  Specifically the renovation of the WARHAWK player's locker room.  The area that previously served as the concession stand had been converted into a bathroom and showers.  Also the area immediately inside the door from the dugout will be used as a, for lack of a better term, mud room.  It has open lockers in which the players will be able to store their bags, spikes, etc. so the dirt won't be tracked into the carpeted dressing room.   It all looks really sharp.  

Still to come is the conversion of the infield from grass to sports turf, an irrigation system for the outfield, lights and restrooms for the fans.  This portion of the project is still on time to begin after this season is completed and finished by the end of the summer.  

Some really neat things happening at Prucha Field.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 08, 2009, 11:02:12 AM
those will be awesome updates to an already beautiful complex there.  That will not only help bring guys to WW but will also help out the WIAC as a whole also!  They are going to have one of the nicest facilities in the midwest, all divisions included!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan20 on April 08, 2009, 12:57:57 PM
Quote from: Dagger on April 08, 2009, 09:56:10 AM
yeah, that's for sure a rough start and no doubt a reason for the lower then normal stats...but we played similar schedules in the past and still had good numbers coming home.  I really had nothing to go on there, just trying to make myself feel better!  haha...it's way to early to get nervous, but after a couple more games if things don't start to look up for the pointers I'm going to be really nervous.  I still think they make the tourny easily, although it may be the 4 seed this year.
Who do u think will be the top three then if point finishes 4th?  LaCross is starting off on the right foot.

Talking about nice locker rooms and fields...any one who hasnt seen UWO's locker room...tile floor with wood lockers, showers, bathroom, huge tv, pool table, music speakers with the whole deck set up.  Very nice thanks to many donations of course.  Once lights get up at that field...will be a prime time place to play
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on April 08, 2009, 02:09:45 PM
I have seen pictures of the locker room at UWO, it's definitely a grade A facility.  I didn't know there was a pool table though.  What else does it have? A cooler full of ice cold beer, for after a long weekend? That would be prime.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on April 08, 2009, 02:27:04 PM

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Who do u think will be the top three then if point finishes 4th?  LaCross is starting off on the right foot.
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I think Point will still finish 3rd in the conference for sure, but I hate counting them out of anything at this point in the season.  There is still a lot of baseball to be played.  Teams can get hot and go on 15-20 game winning streaks.  And teams can get cold and lose some games that they shouldn't like UWO losing 3 out of 4 to Platteville in 06. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 08, 2009, 02:43:31 PM
I'm in no way counting point out, I have them as a for sure tourny participant...but i have to move them down as I originally had them as a title contender too, and say what you want about it being early but they have to be perfect from here on out to have a shot, and the WIAC is just too tough to do that I think.  I think lAX is going to be the fourth team this year.  Superior is on the right track and I think they will make in another two years for sure, but remember they still only won 4 conference games last year, and it typically takes around 12-13 conference wins to make the tourny.  Platteville just doesn't catch my eye and I know very little about them so maybe they could make a run at it too, but I just think LAX has more offensive capabilities than all the others looking to sneak in the conf tournament this year!  They could very well take the 3 spot with UWSP rounding out the field in 4th.

UWO's setup sounds pretty nice, WW also had a big screen TV with a leather couch and some bikes and exercise equipment so pitchers could do postgame workouts inside!  They had been talking about making a shower room out there when I was still around 5 years ago, but at the time didn't have water service to the field.  That place is pretty snazzy!  MAJOR draw for recruits!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on April 08, 2009, 04:30:02 PM
Quote from: Dagger on April 08, 2009, 02:43:31 PM
I'm in no way counting point out, I have them as a for sure tourny participant...but i have to move them down as I originally had them as a title contender too, and say what you want about it being early but they have to be perfect from here on out to have a shot, and the WIAC is just too tough to do that I think.  I think lAX is going to be the fourth team this year.  Superior is on the right track and I think they will make in another two years for sure, but remember they still only won 4 conference games last year, and it typically takes around 12-13 conference wins to make the tourny.  Platteville just doesn't catch my eye and I know very little about them so maybe they could make a run at it too, but I just think LAX has more offensive capabilities than all the others looking to sneak in the conf tournament this year!  They could very well take the 3 spot with UWSP rounding out the field in 4th.
I know you weren't counting out Point for being in the tourney, I am just thinking really positive for the Pointers winning the regular season title and saying "it could happen." I think if they get a couple wins at Edgewood and a couple more against Stout, their confidence should be back up and that will be great heading into the LAX series.  The one thing about that series is that it's at La Crosse and they are tough at their home park, believe me, my career record there is 2-4, when they had no business beating us.  It's just on of those places I guess.  But if they can get 3 of 4 from LAX, they'll be sitting ok, but they'll have to get it done against Oshkosh, and with those games being split double headers at Point, they should be fun to watch, because both teams will have their top two going both times I'm sure. 
I'm just hoping for the best right now, but Point had better figure it out quick cuz the season goes by fast.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 08, 2009, 10:16:16 PM
Quote from: Dagger on April 06, 2009, 11:58:03 AM
Well point either almost didnt make the tourny that year or almost lost a seed (I don't remember) because of those two games, because they had the same number of losses, but two (presumably) fewer wins. 
Whitewater was crowned Regular Season "Champion" and earned the #1 seed in the WIAC Touranment (and home-field advantage) in 2003 because of that very rule.  Oshkosh went 17-3, including beating Whitewater three out of four during the regular season, however they were unable to get all 24 games in, missing out on a pair against Superior, who was just BRUTAL that season, and two against La Crosse.  Whitewater went 19-5, and was able to "save" Callahan for Round Two of the WIAC Tournament, by getting the #1 seed, and the "easier" route to the WIAC Championship that season.

UWO did however earn an "at-large" bid that season, and beat Whitewater twice in the Regional to advance to the World Series.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 09, 2009, 09:35:09 AM
yeah, and it's situations like the one mentioned above that provide great examples of why the games should get played.  Conference games should get played no matter what, cancel the non conference games if you have to (obviously that's not desirable either but...) but get the conference games in so the 'best' team gets what they rightfully earned and aren't screwed by a percentage point because they got rained/snowed out and somebody else didn't.  That is one of my least favorite rules in the WIAC...well that and the transfer rule  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on April 09, 2009, 01:30:26 PM
If anyone is interested, there will be live stats online for the UWSP vs. Edgewood DH.
http://www.sidearmstats.com/edgewood/baseball/
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 09, 2009, 03:34:15 PM
Score Updates....

Stout 4
Oshkosh 1    Top 7th

Platteville 0
Superior 0    Top 8th

Point 3
Edgewood 0  Top 6th
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 09, 2009, 05:29:37 PM
any finals on game ones?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 09, 2009, 05:45:40 PM
Stout beat Oshkosh game 1.  That makes Point getting swept this past weekend sting even more.  I won't get over it for a while because Point definitely should've had 3 of those games.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 09, 2009, 07:28:36 PM
UWW takes game 1 vs La Crosse 9-8, scoring the winning run with 2 out in the 9th after having one runner thrown out at the plate as the second out.  Warhawks trailied 4-0 by the time the Eagles finished batting in the second and 8-5 by the 5th, but scored 1 in the 6th, 2 in the 7th, in addition to the run in the bottom of the ninth. 

UWW-UWL game 1 box (http://www.uwwsports.com/sports/baseball/2009/lax1.htm)

La Crosse earns a split with a 3-2 victory in game 2.  No details available.

EDIT:  Game 2 box score (http://www.uwwsports.com/sports/baseball/2009/lax2.htm)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 09, 2009, 08:40:01 PM
In game two WHITEWATER led 1-0 but LaCrosse hit a two run home run to take the lead 2-1.  WHITEWATER tied it on a solo home run by Sam Petrasko and the game remained tied into the ninth inning.  In the ninth LaCrosse got a couple of hits and then consecutive base on balls, the second of which forced in the go ahead run.  WHITEWATER had the tying run on second with one out and third with two outs but was unable to score. 

WHITEWATER'S winning run in game one was scored on either a passed ball or wild pitch.  I haven't looked at the official box so I'm not sure how it was scored. 

I see it was scored a wild pitch.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 10, 2009, 08:07:58 AM
I know Stout can hit, almost always have ... but if Rubens can't beat them the Titans are in trouble. I don't care if Brad Demmin didn't play, your ace needs to beat Stout.

Something that crossed my mind ... is the WIAC a one-bid league this year? It's early enough to make it not so but late enough to start thinking about it. Good thing Augustana is losing weird games because if the CCIW gets three bids, the WIAC starts to look shaky with all the parity and several NAC teams quietly putting together nice seasons. For the WIAC's sake, I hope our OWP numbers are better because the NAC and WIAC don't play each other often this year, making it hard to compare.

Anyway, is that what it is – WIAC balance – or do we not have a viable contender this year?
CSS and the top of the MIAC/NAC must be getting a chuckle out of the WIAC results.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 10, 2009, 09:32:11 AM
that's a really good question, and something that I had thought about last night for a bit.  I don't see Point or WW making a dent in a postseason run this year, and I'm not being down on them or whatever...I'm just being realistic.  They are both good teams and they both have a legitimate shot at ncaa games this year, but I don't see either one getting out of regionals.  UWO in my eyes is the wiacs only real shot at getting a contender in there this year, and somebody that could win a game or two in the series.  But with that said, they need to stop losing to stout and norberts and all that crap.  Point is just too young and inexperienced I think to piece together that post season run that they will need.  They are going be a very good baseball team next year though!  WW still hasn't impressed me yet to date with much of anything, yes they are winning ball games, but as shine time said (and I don't think that even the WW fans would disagree) point should have won three of those games!  All three will have a chance at postseason games, but I think that as the lower echelon teams in the wiac slowly build their programs back up the days of seeing uwo, uww, uwsp the top three may be on the way out.  It used to be that those three teams would sweep all the other teams every year, and it would come down to who played who heads up better.  Now teams like lax, platt, sup, and apparently stout can come in and take a game or two from the big dogs, which will really make things interesting this year.  I do think the teams are down a notch from the past couple years in the wiac this season (compared to other conferences/regions) but they still have some darn good ball clubs in there.  The rest of this season will be very interesting as it plays out I think.  I see the wiac getting one at large at this point, and they may even be able to justify none at this point...nobody really looks like a contender yet!  But as we all know, may/june brings out the best of the guys and we'll see what happens then!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 10, 2009, 10:20:34 AM
All I want for Xmas is for the Pointers to be able to play Edgewood 40 games per year so we can go 40-0.  Oshkosh definitely has the best chance to make a run because of their prolific offense.  I don't trust their pitching staff all that much though.  If Nix is on and throwing strikes Point can beat anyone in D3 but that's always a BIG if.  Whitewater is in the same boat they have a legit #1 pitcher in Dott and can do well in regionals because of it if they get in. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on April 10, 2009, 11:13:09 AM
Looking at the stats from yesterday's games between Point and Edgewood, and their overall statistics, Point needs to start hitting the ball better.  A team .275 batting average is so uncharacteristic for UWSP baseball.  When I was there the majority of our practice time was spent on the field doing defensive situations and bunt coverage's, with about 30 to 45 minutes penciled in for hitting stations, but we usually had about a .320-.330 team BA.  I think they might have to start doing some more match ups during practice so they can start putting some runs across the board.  Because if there not going to rely on the homerun this year, everyone in the line up is going to have be able to get base hits.  I have faith that they can do it, they just might have to get some more BP that's all.
 
As far as their pitching goes, it looks like they threw the ball well yesterday, and Edgewood usually isn't too bad.  Glad to see that is turning around.  They definitely have the talent on the mound to make a run in the post season; they just need to get the bats going a little better.

As far as the other games go in the WIAC, it's like I posted earlier, teams can get hot, and teams can lose games they shouldn't.  Rubens losing to Stout is a BIG shocker, but that just goes to show you, in the WIAC this year, anybody can beat anybody.  Matt Doornick for Stout has one of the best curveballs I've ever seen, and when he's on he can be very tough, so him striking out 13 Titans isn't too surprising.

The lack of offense in WW came out against LAX yesterday losing 3-2 in game 2.  And in game 1 they faced Zurbriggen who's not all that impressive.  So I'm still not too impressed with the 2009 Warhawks team, they just don't have the dominance they've had in the last few years.

Overall I think the WIAC is a little down this year, even though Oshkosh shouldn't be because they only lost two players (Leighton and Hendricks), but they're young so I guess that could be playing a factor.  Do I think any of them have a chance to make a post season run to Appleton? At this point, no, I think Point and WW will have to hit a lot better, and Oshkosh needs to pitch better and play better defense.  Point's pitching will also need to step up just a little bit.  Do I think anybody in the WIAC will get an at large bid? Right now, no, I don't think any of the teams deserve one.  La Crosse has the best record, but I don't see them ending the year as a contender.

I still think the regular season crown is up for grabs, the way the WIAC is shaping up to be this year, a lot can happen over the next 4 weeks.  I hope it comes down to the wire, whoever it is, because that's always fun to follow.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on April 10, 2009, 02:24:49 PM
UWO wasting no time today as they put up 11 runs in the top of the 1st against Stout.  19-2 UWO, still in the top of 4. Kannenberg is on the mound, and hitting for himself.

UWP leads UWS 2-0 through 6
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 10, 2009, 08:52:22 PM
Whitewater and La Crosse split for the second time in as many days. The Warhawks won 6-3 in game one.  UWL defeated UWW 9-6 in game two. "Could have been" a Warhawk sweep if it wasn't for a brutal fielding day by the Warhawks (La Crosse was nearly as bad) - all three runs allowed in game one victory were unearned and only 2 of the 9 runs scored by UWL in game 2 were earned, resulting in Dott picking up the tough luck loss (though he did issue 8 walks to only 6 strikeouts), to even his record at 3-3. La Crosse remains a game ahead of the Warhawks after the 4 game split.

Recap and boxes (http://www.uwwsports.com/News/baseball/2009/4/10/bb4102009_Lax34.asp?path=baseball)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 11, 2009, 08:45:01 AM
Think Blake Berger ever had a DH like that, even in Little League?
7-for-10, 3 HRs, 2B, 9 R, 15 RBI ... that's stupid.
Wonder who the WIAC Hitter of the Week will be.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 11, 2009, 10:06:33 AM
Quote from: BoBo on April 10, 2009, 08:52:22 PM
Whitewater and La Crosse split for the second time in as many days. The Warhawks won 6-3 in game one.  UWL defeated UWW 9-6 in game two. "Could have been" a Warhawk sweep if it wasn't for a brutal fielding day by the Warhawks (La Crosse was nearly as bad) - all three runs allowed in game one victory were unearned and only 2 of the 9 runs scored by UWL in game 2 were earned, resulting in Dott picking up the tough luck loss (though he did issue 8 walks to only 6 strikeouts), to even his record at 3-3. La Crosse remains a game ahead of the Warhawks after the 4 game split.

Recap and boxes (http://www.uwwsports.com/News/baseball/2009/4/10/bb4102009_Lax34.asp?path=baseball)

The second game was really frustrating.  We could have won 6-2 but for nasty fielding and some poor decisions on the basepaths.  But we all know what they say about would've, could've, should've.  This one of the better LaCrosse teams that I've seen and I would be surprised to see them miss the conference tourney. 

I am off to the sunny shores of southwest Florida for a week of relaxation and tanning.  I won't have a computer but I hope somehow I can keep up with what happens in the league. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 11, 2009, 12:03:31 PM
Just a heads up that this post is going to touch on a WHOLE range of thoughts I have had going through my head the last week or so....

1.  As surprising as the UWO loss to Stout is, they still did what they needed to do over the weekend, which was win three out of four.  If UWO wins three out of four from every conference opponent, they would likely win the regular season title, finishing at 18-6.  The only thing that would throw a wrench in there, is if Whitewater or La Crosse would happen to win out in their remaining WIAC games other than the games against Oshkosh.  If that would happen Whitewater would finish 19-5 and win the league, while La Crosse and Oshkosh would tie for second at 18-6.  The Whitewater scenario is more likely, as they "only" have Stout, Superior, and Platteville remaining on their schedule.

2.  I may have put a little too much stock on Rubens 48 pitch CG masterpiece against Whitewater earlier this season.  Why?  Well Whitewater has continued to show that they aren't exactly tearing the cover off the ball, hitting at just a .259 clip, even with their 22-hit DH performance against Carroll figured in.  Since then, Rubens has pitched in two games, and looked very hittable in each, losing to St. Norbert and Stout.  Now he has the potential to come back and be dominant like he has been in the past, but I guess we will see.  For UWO's sake, he will need to become that #1 pitcher he was last season if they hope to make a lengthy post-season run.

3.  Speaking of Pre-Season All American pitchers, Whitewater's Aaron Dott seems to be struggling as well.  One game he will get hit around a bit, the next he will look similar to his 2008 starts, and the next he will struggle with his control.  He just doesn't seem to be that "lights-out" dominant pitcher he was last season.  In three WIAC starts this season he is 1-2, giving up 17 hits and 12 BB's, while striking out 20 batters in 21.3 IP.  Look for those numbers to improve however over the next few weeks.

4.  I do think that WIAC baseball isn't as strong as it was even just 5-10 years ago.  I think the bottom part of the league has gotten better, but at the expense of the top teams depth.  You don't see the pitching depth at the top schools that there used to be.  No longer are rotations three or four deep with lights out guys who weren't going to get beat.  Their isn't that rotation of Endl, Tomasiewicz, Callahan, and Reinhard or Glysch, Grater, Taschner and Golberg.  Now you have guys going to the other WIAC schools and somtimes beating one of the "big three" instead of joining them and making one of the "big three's" rotation deeper.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 12, 2009, 12:41:52 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 11, 2009, 12:03:31 PM
1.  As surprising as the UWO loss to Stout is, they still did what they needed to do over the weekend, which was win three out of four.  If UWO wins three out of four from every conference opponent, they would likely win the regular season title, finishing at 18-6.  The only thing that would throw a wrench in there, is if Whitewater or La Crosse would happen to win out in their remaining WIAC games other than the games against Oshkosh.  If that would happen Whitewater would finish 19-5 and win the league, while La Crosse and Oshkosh would tie for second at 18-6.  The Whitewater scenario is more likely, as they "only" have Stout, Superior, and Platteville remaining on their schedule.

cubs, either Stout isn't as bad as you think they are or the Titans aren't as good as you make yourself believe - probably a little of both, IMO.  Maybe this year's a wake up call to the big 3 that the others are gaining ground on you and lackadaisical play will only get you an "L" in the loss column. Stout "surprising" Oshkosh in the first game of their set might be explained that way. They came out the second day with a little renewed vigor, knowing if they didn't show up, Stout is capable of beating them.  In that vein, I tend to disagree with your assessent that 6 losses might win the league regular season title. I think it might be more like 7 or 8.  I have to admit, though, my view comes from the Uecker seats. Whitewater splitting with Oshkosh on 4/15 and then running the table seems highly unlikely at this juncture, regardless who they are playing (this '09 club is not like recent editions), which goes contrary to your best possible assessment. Considering their uneven play, I'm not sure how UWW can accomplish that feat unless they somehow find their collective basehitting sticks and fielding gloves. I have as much optimism for the team I follow as you do for yours, but I'd be foolish to think a turn-around is in the making for the Warhawks - the signs just aren't leading in that direction.  Oshkosh is going to have to play much better from here on out to make your goal of taking 3 of 4 from everybody - they are still capable of being "surprised" again as much as they they might sweep everybody. IMO, I don't think we've heard the last from Stevens Point, either, but they must really be making their fans frustrated with their performance so far.  But, La Crosse is the team that intrigues me the most. The UWSP and Oshkosh back to back (to back to back) conference DH will determine if they are contenders or... yes...pretenders.  I like their chances.  But that's a tall order, too. 

Quote from: cubs on April 11, 2009, 12:03:31 PM
4.  I do think that WIAC baseball isn't as strong as it was even just 5-10 years ago.  I think the bottom part of the league has gotten better, but at the expense of the top teams depth.  You don't see the pitching depth at the top schools that there used to be.  No longer are rotations three or four deep with lights out guys who weren't going to get beat.  Their isn't that rotation of Endl, Tomasiewicz, Callahan, and Reinhard or Glysch, Grater, Taschner and Golberg.  Now you have guys going to the other WIAC schools and somtimes beating one of the "big three" instead of joining them and making one of the "big three's" rotation deeper.

I think the league as a whole is strongest when the difference between the #1 and #7 is at it's smallest margin.  IMO the gap is narrowing from where we were 5-10 years ago. Now, it you were to ask it this way - is the best team in the conference today as good as the best teams 5-10 years ago? I think we can agree that today, whoever the best is, would not be considered as strong. The conference is only as strong as it's weakest member, and I think the weaker members have gotten stronger, which is good for the conference.  I certainly like things much more now than the days of 1980-1999 when it was basically a 1 team league with a couple hiccups thrown in.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 12, 2009, 04:04:35 PM
Quote from: BoBo on April 12, 2009, 12:41:52 AM
I certainly like things much more now than the days of 1980-1999 when it was basically a 1 team league with a couple hiccups thrown in.
I'm sure you wouldn't mind it returning to the "olden' days" if it was Whitewater who was going on the 20-year run though would you? ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 12, 2009, 11:41:46 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 12, 2009, 04:04:35 PM
Quote from: BoBo on April 12, 2009, 12:41:52 AM
I certainly like things much more now than the days of 1980-1999 when it was basically a 1 team league with a couple hiccups thrown in.
I'm sure you wouldn't mind it returning to the "olden' days" if it was Whitewater who was going on the 20-year run though would you? ;D

Maybe we can revisit this in about 10 years and I'll let you know how I feel!!   ;)

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 13, 2009, 08:35:16 AM
I know this has been talked about before but why don't more pitchers hit?  I heard Joel Delorit for UWSP can rake and hit over 20 HR'S in high school.  Why not let some of these guys bat if their that athletic?  Pitchers usually are your most athletic players.  Point really screwed up a few years ago not letting Tyler Techlin at least DH.  He was one of the best hitters the Appleton ever seen and never got an opportunity to hit just because he was a pitcher.  I know Zimmerman and Endl both hit but who else in recent years got a chance to swing it.  Point also could've let J.C. Reinke hit but I can understand why they didn't with the lineup they had already.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 13, 2009, 10:18:50 AM
first of all there are a lot of things that go into a decision on whether or not a pitcher will hit, and "mashing" in high school doesn't mean a thing when you get to college.  zimmerman and endl were freaks of nature, callahan also hit for the warhawks.  But, you have to understand that there is also a mental aspect and a stamina side.  Having pitched for a year (while batting) I can speak to the fact that it is very disruptive to have to hit and pitch in the same game!  I'm not saying it impossible, but it just takes you out of your zone mentally when you're pitching and for some guys it can totally ruin their outing by having to do both!  As for the other guys, and kevin thomas is a great example of pitchers that can hit (now a 3B),  these guys get chances to swing in practice sometimes, but in order to get enough swings in to be a successful college hitter and to get your work in to be a successful pitcher you need to put in some major extra work.  It's not as easy as saying you want to do both.  The good hitters and good pitchers work their asses off to get to that point.  These guys were great hitters in high school but as I said before that means nothing now, and many of them do get to swing in practice every now and then, and they more then show that they will not cut it!  and the ones that do, Like kevin thomas, endl, callahan, zimmy...get to hit!  If a guy is that great at batting he will bat!

To touch on a few posts back, I believe the league itself is stronger as the bottom teams are getting stronger and stonger....but I believe the top teams are way down in terms of national comparison to the big dogs.  The WIAC for as long as I remember has always had at least one sometimes 2 or 3 teams that I felt could go the series and do some damage.  I don't see that in any of the teams this year, and I don't view that as a plus for the conference.  having the all the top three teams drop in talent only means that the other teams that don't get a chance to compete usually are now alive...and I agree for the league that is good...but I also believe it is not good to not have at least one big gun to represent the conference successfully!  When's the last time the WIAC wasn't at the series?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 13, 2009, 10:21:17 AM
Quote from: OshDude on April 10, 2009, 08:07:58 AM


Something that crossed my mind ... is the WIAC a one-bid league this year? It's early enough to make it not so but late enough to start thinking about it.


OshDude- I was thinking the same thing last night. I the WIAC getting only one bid is a distinct possibility, though I do not see it happeneing.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bump_and_Run on April 13, 2009, 06:57:51 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 13, 2009, 08:35:16 AM
I know this has been talked about before but why don't more pitchers hit?  I heard Joel Delorit for UWSP can rake and hit over 20 HR'S in high school.  Why not let some of these guys bat if their that athletic?  Pitchers usually are your most athletic players.  Point really screwed up a few years ago not letting Tyler Techlin at least DH.  He was one of the best hitters the Appleton ever seen and never got an opportunity to hit just because he was a pitcher.  I know Zimmerman and Endl both hit but who else in recent years got a chance to swing it.  Point also could've let J.C. Reinke hit but I can understand why they didn't with the lineup they had already.

Joel Delorit hitting 20 HRs in High School is absolutly false!  He had maybe 2 or 3 his Senior yeah of high school, tops.  He was a contact hitter, not a power hitter. In Legion Baseball he hit 1 home run in 2006 and 1 home run in 2007.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dukes on April 13, 2009, 09:56:51 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 13, 2009, 08:35:16 AM
I know this has been talked about before but why don't more pitchers hit?  I heard Joel Delorit for UWSP can rake and hit over 20 HR'S in high school.  Why not let some of these guys bat if their that athletic?  Pitchers usually are your most athletic players.  Point really screwed up a few years ago not letting Tyler Techlin at least DH.  He was one of the best hitters the Appleton ever seen and never got an opportunity to hit just because he was a pitcher.  I know Zimmerman and Endl both hit but who else in recent years got a chance to swing it.  Point also could've let J.C. Reinke hit but I can understand why they didn't with the lineup they had already.
Dude, you must be joking. Do you really think a pitcher is your most athletic person on the team? Have you ever seen how awkward they are doing anything except pitching? I would agree they may be the most athletic as they develop, but past about high school, they no longer are. And if they are, your team is in trouble.

I believe there are many things that play into a coaches decision of whether or not to let his pitcher hit. In my opinion this also applies to the guys who play a position and pitch as well. At most colleges I know, when kids come in as freshman they are tested out to see where they will best be used. So the guys who were two way guys in high school with both hitting and pitching get the opportunity to do both. Most schools probably already have incumbent position players in upper classman so it is tougher to get at bats. Early on there is usually a distinction made of whether you will be a pitcher only, hitter only, or both. With a limited number of at bats and innings, both in practice and during the season, the utilization of those resources must be conserved, meaning it is pointless to spend any energy or batting practice time or at bats on a pitcher. It sounds great that you can work on your own to get at bats, but truth is if you are not working with the coaches showing you ability in practice/games, you will not be seen.

The same reason that pitchers do not hit is also why there arent as many guys who pitch considerable innings and play a position, because as you get to more elite levels you must focus on specific skills to play at that high level.  Many examples exist in college baseball. Recently, look at the show that Zimmerman put on, but CSS usually has a few good two way guys, like Steve Gerten last year during the regional, St. Thomas used Dan Leslie that way. In the majors are examples to in the likes of Rick Ankiel, Micah Owings, Carlos Zambrano, Livan Hernandez, and Mike Hamptom come to mind as guys who could hit well for a pitcher. (Also that one guy for the brewers who would pitch and hit now and then, but I dont remember his name). My point being, even those guys with big league talent both ways, still have to focus on one or the other to be successful at a high level.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 15, 2009, 02:22:17 PM
UWO 5
UWW 0    Top 2nd

Fosler seems to be a "thorn" in Whitewater's side this season, as he smacks a two-out, two-run double in the first.  (He was 5x8 in the first DH this season against the Warhawks.)  M. Fadness follows with a two-run single, and Hiroskey caps off the inning with a RBI triple.

Hooper vs Rubens in Game #1 today at Oshkosh. 

I expected Rubens to get the start in Game #1, but thought Dott would be going in Game #1 for Whitewater instead of Hooper.

Now the question is, what will the starters for Game #2 look like?  My guess is Dott vs Kannenberg, unless Kannenberg has to pitch in relief in Game #1.  If that is the case, I'm guessing Demmin will get the nod, as he has pitched pretty well since returning from Florida.

An additional point of interst, UWO is playing without Brad Demmin again, making it  seven straight games he has been out of the starting line-up.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 15, 2009, 02:32:31 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 15, 2009, 02:22:17 PM



An additional point of interst, UWO is playing without Brad Demmin again, making it  seven straight games he has been out of the starting line-up.


Any idea why he is out of the line-up yet?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 15, 2009, 02:35:52 PM
I noticed a classic WW move with the mid-inning switch of a position player.  Could have gotten hurt I suppose so maybe I should check on that first, but I just found that amusing.  He has done that several times throughout the last couple years, it's just demoralizing to the players!  Nobody makes an error on purpose, have some respect for your own team at least and let him finish the inning!  Not to mention that today's switch took out their best player this year...again though he could have been injured, anybody know what happened?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 15, 2009, 02:48:33 PM
Quote from: Dagger on April 15, 2009, 02:35:52 PM
I noticed a classic WW move with the mid-inning switch of a position player.  Could have gotten hurt I suppose so maybe I should check on that first, but I just found that amusing.  He has done that several times throughout the last couple years, it's just demoralizing to the players!  Nobody makes an error on purpose, have some respect for your own team at least and let him finish the inning!  Not to mention that today's switch took out their best player this year...again though he could have been injured, anybody know what happened?
It appears the CF change happened right after Hiroskey's triple to CF, so if I was going to speculate, I would say there might have been an injury involved.  If it was an error, don't you think it would have been scored an error?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 15, 2009, 03:14:26 PM
you never know, I have seen him yank infielders mid-inning for not cutting to the right base!  that wouldn't be scored an error...Being that petrasko is their best hitter right now and a good player I would think that he was injured...but given the circumstances (getting throttled twice there already this year, and now getting it again) it wouldn't take much to set off a reaction which would result in that happening!  Could have simply misplayed the ball!  I'm not going to say anything else about it for now until I hear something about the situation, but just thought it was funny and he does that stuff all the time!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 15, 2009, 03:39:22 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 15, 2009, 02:22:17 PM
UWO 5
UWW 0    Top 2nd

Fosler seems to be a "thorn" in Whitewater's side this season, as he smacks a two-out, two-run double in the first.  (He was 5x8 in the first DH this season against the Warhawks.)  M. Fadness follows with a two-run single, and Hiroskey caps off the inning with a RBI triple.
UWO 11
UWW 0

FINAL (7 Innings)

Well three Whitewater vs Oshkosh games so far this season, and the Warhawks have gone down by the mercy rule all three times.  Surprising to say the least!!

Fosler continues to haunt the Warhawks, as he goes 3x4 with two doubles and a HR in the opener.  For the season he is now 8x12 with two doubles, two triples, and a HR against the Warhawks, in addition to scoring nine runs and and having five RBI's.

Rubens bounces back after a pair of losses, and stifles Whitewater once again.  He goes the distance, giving up just four hits, and faces just five batters over the minimum.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 15, 2009, 04:15:37 PM
petrasko is in the lineup in game two...injury unlikely in game one ::)

Very shocking to say the least is right about the outcomes of these games!  If someone would have told me this would  happen a couple weeks ago I would have told them they are on crack!  But here we are and there is WW down three times by the 10 run rule!  Rare for that to happen to them once in a season, let alone three times in one year to the same team.  bye bye WW from the rankings after this week, and welcome to the titans...at least one would sure think!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 15, 2009, 04:18:13 PM
UWW 4
UWO 0    Bottom 1st

Well, Petrasko must not have been injured too severly, if at all, as he is back in CF for Game #2.

Whitewater already has more hits in just one inning of Game #2 (five singles) than they did in all of Game #1 (four) as they jump out to an early lead.

Interestlingly, Dott is not on the mound for the Warhawks in Game #2, as Ben Versnik gets the start for Whitewater.  UWO hit him hard the first time they faced him, as he gave up six runs in just one third of an inning a couple of weeks back.  UWO counters with Kannenberg.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 15, 2009, 05:45:10 PM
Point loses to stout in game one at point 6-8 ???  I'm not liking the chances of them doing too well the rest of this season!  It's just one of those years for the pointers, lot of young guys getting some great experience, and I fully expect them to make a strong statement next year...but I'm not seeing it this year :-[  too bad for them.  Being a Pointer in the past, it's hard to watch this and I feel for the upper class men who haven't had to deal with anything like this before.  I think this may be one reason why things seem to be unraveling.  They have a team with few veterans, and the ones that they do have don't know what losing is like and maybe they just are able to react to it like they need to in order to lead the young guys to victory.  I don't know, just a thought.  I'm always going to be a strong supporter of the pointers, including the rest of this year, but I'm just being honest here...they aint looking to hot right now :(  I can and will say this though...NEVER underestimate the pointers!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 15, 2009, 07:12:44 PM
Quote from: Dagger on April 15, 2009, 05:45:10 PM
Point loses to stout in game one at point 6-8 ???
Stout was actually up 7-0 after five innings, and 8-2 through seven.  A late Pointer rally, scoring three in the 8th and one in the 9th,  comes up just short.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 15, 2009, 07:16:30 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 15, 2009, 02:48:33 PM
Quote from: Dagger on April 15, 2009, 02:35:52 PM
I noticed a classic WW move with the mid-inning switch of a position player.  Could have gotten hurt I suppose so maybe I should check on that first, but I just found that amusing.  He has done that several times throughout the last couple years, it's just demoralizing to the players!  Nobody makes an error on purpose, have some respect for your own team at least and let him finish the inning!  Not to mention that today's switch took out their best player this year...again though he could have been injured, anybody know what happened?
It appears the CF change happened right after Hiroskey's triple to CF, so if I was going to speculate, I would say there might have been an injury involved.  If it was an error, don't you think it would have been scored an error?
Not an error, just lack of hustle. He didn't run in on one where he shoulda called off the SS, and he coasted on the one over his head. The one over his head shoulda been caught. He got the hook immediately after.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 15, 2009, 07:18:37 PM
Whitewater manages to avoid a season sweep at the hands of UWO with a 7-4 victory in Game #2.  Whitewater jumps on Kannenberg for five runs, however Ryan Demmin comes on and keeps things close allowing the Titans to chip away and cut it to 5-4.  Whitewater scores single runs in the 8th and 9th innings for the final margin.

Aaron Dott comes on and gives up two hits and a walk while striking out four in 2 1/3 IP to record the save.  

Demmin gives up just three hits and one walk while striking out three in seven innings of relief.

One thing I forgot to mention....  Over the two games today, Whitewater attempted 10 stolen bases, and were caught five times.  Going into the game, Hiroskey had only thrown out six runners on the entire season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 15, 2009, 07:29:25 PM
Very frustrating second game. Kanny couldn't get off the field, and that one good inning – over four games – nets a win for UWW. Fear not, UWW can still chirp. Was wondering if I'd hear it this year. Well, sure enough ...

After throwing 99% fastballs the first time, Dott threw a billion sliders today. For strikes even. He looked much better, obviously. Versnik was throwing much harder today than he did the first time around. After UWW put up four runs, it looked like he had another 5 mph than the last time I saw him.

Vode pushed a lot of buttons to no avail in Game 1. It was hard keeping track of the subs. I found it weird that he seemingly waved the white flag so early. Vode then coached a GREAT Game 2. He handled matchups very well and took some nice calculated risks, like pitching to Berger in the middle of the game when he didn't have to.

Ryan Demmin was pretty good today. Just not perfect like he had to be, as it turned out.

B. Demmin may be out a while longer. His right hand is still in a soft cast.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 15, 2009, 07:58:43 PM
Well with teams having between one third and half of their WIAC games completed at this point, here is how things stand:

La Crosse 9-3
Oshkosh 6-2
Whitewater 7-5
Platteville 5-7
Stout 5-7
Point 3-5
Superior 1-7

Point has a six game stretch coming up that SHOULD give us a pretty good idea of where they will end up, getting La Crosse four times over the weekend and Oshkosh twice next Wednesday.  I would think anything less than 3-3, and Shietime's prediction of Point missing the WIAC tournament could actually hold some weight.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 15, 2009, 08:32:24 PM
I just want to make it clear that my prediction wasn't to be a dick it's just I know baseball too well and could tell just from a few games that Point is not ready to be a contender this year.  Like Dagger said Point has the talent but their very young.  Even when Point has been solid the past few years they haven't played well at La Crosse so I would be surprised to see Point win more than 2 at La Crosse and am actually planning on Point only winning 1.  For some reason I think Point is going to take 2 of 4 from Oshkosh though(Just a gut feeling).  I really think Point will have a tough time with Superior because their hitting is so inconsistent and Superior has a really underrated staff.  I realize Superior has no offense right now but one could say that about Point right now too.  I have to get a few things off my chest though after Point blew a game against Stout today.  I know I've said these things before but I'm going to say them again because I know their right.

1.  It's time to completely get G. Bloom out of the lineup.  He has a pretty swing warming up and maybe he can rake in practice but there's a lot better hitters on the bench that can DH and he sure as heck shouldn't be behind the plate in front of Rennicke or Consodine.  This isn't to ridicule him but let's be honest here he's playing because his last name is Bloom.  Kobach not hitting kills the Pointers offense and Surman should be on the field at all times IMO even if he's struggling.
2.  I believe I was right in that Peebs would have to actually coach for once because Point lacks the star power they've had over the past few years.  Not saying Peebs is a bad coach but I've come to realize he makes some horrible decisions with his pitching staff and with situations in general.  I think he's done a mediocre job of coaching so far.
3.  It's time to get Zielke where he belongs:  In the starting rotation.  Zielke is the most complete pitcher Point has and let's face it there not in the lead often this year and need to WIN NOW.  You can't leave him sit there and hope that you have a lead so you can use him.  He's a senior and deserves to go out as a starter like he should've been all along. 
4.  I realize Kobach is a tremendous pitcher as a freshman but IMO he's better suited for CF and being in the lineup offensively.  He may have struggled at the plate recently but he's still a phenom with the bat.  They have enough pitchers that are equal to or better so leave him in Center and put Arch back in right.  Keep Surman in LF and have Spurney DH.  Enough of the shuffling at DH and in the field.  Last suggestion would be to use Cummings as a pinch runner and that's it.  He's a SR but he's not getting it done offensively unless he gets a bunt hit.  Let Iverson or Krueger finish the year there so we have some experience there for next year. 

I will join Dagger in saying I will always love the Pointers and go to as many games as possible but it's really hard to watch this year.  The dugout is dead most of the time especially if they fall behind early.  I think if it weren't for Rennicke and his passion that it would almost feel like being at a church service with all the silence.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on April 16, 2009, 06:01:29 AM
Here's news about a prep player headed UW-Oshkosh's direction:

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/preps/43078327.html
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 16, 2009, 08:54:57 AM
Point's struggles are shocking to me. Never in my mind did it occur that they might miss the WIAC post-season. With that said, I still think they have time to straighten it out, but all hopes for a Pool C bid are long gone. They MUST win the WIAC tourney to get a NCAA bid.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 16, 2009, 10:02:11 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 15, 2009, 08:32:24 PM
Last suggestion would be to use Cummings as a pinch runner and that's it.  He's a SR but he's not getting it done offensively unless he gets a bunt hit.  Let Iverson or Krueger finish the year there so we have some experience there for next year. 
Not getting it done offensively?  Do you realize who leads the Pointers in on-base %?  That's right, none other than Mr. Cummings himself.  While his batting average may be lower than you like, there is no arguing the fact that he is getting on base at a pretty good clip.  He is doing what he needs to as far as setting the table for the top of the order.  Just because he isn't "slugging" it, doesn't mean he is an offensive liability.  In Game #1 yesterday, he had five plate appearances, and reached bsae all five times, with a single up the middle and a double to right center.  What more do you want from the guy?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on April 16, 2009, 10:26:34 AM
Two big changes i think the Pointers need to make.
1) Find a starting line up and stick with it...I don' t know how you expect guys to get hot when they're either bouncing around the lineup all the time or only playing 50% of the time.  Schoch has one of the better averages on the team, but only hits about 50% of the time, to get guys in a groove, you have to leave them in the line up on a consistent basis, at least for a few consecutive games.

2) I know I said earlier that Zielke should stay as the closer, but thats when I was under the impression of don't fix whats not broken, well i think it's safe to say that the starting rotation for the Pointers could use some change.  So, I agree with Shinetime on this one, in that Zielke should get a shot at the rotation.  Koback is probably there most consistent pitcher thus far, and I think he should possibly be in the rotation as well.  His bat has cooled off, and maybe he would best suit the team as a starting pitcher right now. 

I love the Pointers, and all the guys on the team.  I believe that they can turn it around this year and turn some heads come tournament time.  Maybe it's just a matter of forgetting about wins and losses and winning the regular season crown and just going out and having fun!  Because everybody knows that you play your best ball when you're loose and relaxed.  If they do that the wins will come.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 16, 2009, 11:09:10 AM
changes of all sorts are clearly in order for the pointers right now, but to be honest with you (other than a select few) what changes are those?  Is it personnel issues, coaching, lack of senior leadership, etc...Sometimes you just cant simply replace a couple parts and expect everything to just fall into place.  This is a rebuilding year for the pointers, and while I never expected it to be as bad as it looks right now I did expect some struggles.

I agree that the lineup is shuffled way too much and that that fact will contribute to inconsistency at the plate!  You can say what you want, but getting moved all around the lineup affects the batters and can throw them from a groove. 

cummings is not an all conference player!  But he is a senior leader on the team and like cubs mentioned just finds a way to get on base.  Once on base he's one of the quickest guys in the league!  He is the perfect 9 hole guy to get on and spark the top of the order. 

zielke needs to start, end of debate on that one, and koback needs to be in the lineup also!

I'm going to go back to what I mentioned in an earlier post, and I believe this to be true and a big reason why the struggles are as bad as they are right now...they simply havn't had to deal with a season like this ever before, and that includes the coaching staff.  Not being around the team, it's hard for me to sit here and say that they aren't handling it correctly, but from a distance it seems to me that they just don't have the upperclassmen leadership to be able to lead the younger guys through this mess!  They don't have the star power that will come up with the big hit everytime you need it or strike a guy out, and so now they need to rely on playing a sound defensive game (which has been difficult at times for them this year) and do all the small things right.  That kind of ball is difficult for a young team to accomplish, and when the upperclassmen that you have really don't have much experience either, it's just asking for trouble.  Point graduated their entire infield last year including catcher and two outfielders!  Those players essentially made up the entire offense, and one that was a much higher octane than what is now taking the field.  I don't mean that as a disservice to this years team, but now they have a totally different makeup from what they have had in the past, and I think they are just struggling to try and play a different kind of ball.  You can't do what you've done in the past with this team and expect to win.   

The next six games will make or break points chances at a tournament berth!  how weird is that to be talking about?  I'm fine with them not making NCAA tourney this year, but they have to make the conference tournament....don't they?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 16, 2009, 03:31:28 PM
For you diehard Jordan Zimmermann fans, his start for the Washington Nationals was pushed back to Monday the 20th against the braves due the Nationals game being postponed yesterday
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 16, 2009, 05:08:41 PM
that's good news for those that wanted to watch him...yay for tbs!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: poly god on April 17, 2009, 07:45:37 AM
here's my opinion on what has to happen for the Pointers.
1. Koback has to pitch! He hit 91 on the gun in the 1st inning and the last inning he pitched. He's too good not to use. Plus he's got a little mean streak in him.
2. Berry goes to long relief. He struggled against Stout and loses alot on his fastball after a couple innings.
3. Zielke stays at closer.
4. As far as the lineup goes. I don't know. The only thing I do know is that Bloom will have the same problem next year because all those guys will be back.
Hitting with guys on base would cure alot of their issues.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 17, 2009, 09:26:49 AM
Quote from: poly god on April 17, 2009, 07:45:37 AM
here's my opinion on what has to happen for the Pointers.
1. Koback has to pitch! He hit 91 on the gun in the 1st inning and the last inning he pitched. He's too good not to use. Plus he's got a little mean streak in him.
2. Berry goes to long relief. He struggled against Stout and loses alot on his fastball after a couple innings.
3. Zielke stays at closer.
4. As far as the lineup goes. I don't know. The only thing I do know is that Bloom will have the same problem next year because all those guys will be back.
Hitting with guys on base would cure alot of their issues.

That is true for EVERY program.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 18, 2009, 03:23:39 AM
A huge weekend on tap in conference action:

Superior at Whitewater : Warhawks should take 4 from the 'jackets - no, actually need to take 4 if they want to remain in the chase - but take nothing for granted with this match-up this year.  When will WW start to hit?

Stevens Point at La Crosse : Pointers needs to take 3 of 4 if they want anyone to believe they can get into the race...La Crosse is playing well & at home, so a sweep to keep pace with Oshkosh is a distinct possibility...if so, put a fork in the Pointers, they're done.

Platteville at Oshkosh : Titans takes 3 of 4 to remain firmly planted in the drivers seat before their mid-week pair at Stevens Point.

Of course, these are just my observations and opinions, anybody else care to offer a forcast?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 18, 2009, 10:40:18 AM
Thanks Oshdude.  I see they've maintained the double elimination format.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 18, 2009, 05:09:08 PM
Oof. Wasn't able to make it today. I hope someone is at Tiedemann and will let us know what in the wide world of sports is happening over there. UWP is just mashing UWO.

It's 10-0 UWP heading into the bottom of the first in Game 2? That's after UWP won 15-10 in Game 1? Sheesh. Congrats, Pioneers, I guess.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 18, 2009, 05:16:21 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 18, 2009, 05:09:08 PM
Oof. Wasn't able to make it today. I hope someone is at Tiedemann and will let us know what in the wide world of sports is happening over there. UWP is just mashing UWO.

It's 10-0 UWP heading into the bottom of the first in Game 2? That's after UWP won 15-10 in Game 1? Sheesh. Congrats, Pioneers, I guess.

The WIAC is truly a mess

UWW slips by UWS 10-8 in game 1
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 18, 2009, 05:24:57 PM
Check it ... 16-10 in Game 1. Don't wanna shortchange the Platteville merry-go-round. Now 11-0 bottom 2 ... LOL. I may have disrupted the universe by not being there. I'll take the blame for this day to forget. Well, so far a day to forget.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 18, 2009, 07:16:29 PM
Warhawks take game two 15-4.

Recap and Box Scores (http://www.uwwsports.com/News/baseball/2009/4/18/bb_041809_superior1.asp?path=baseball)

'Hawks start to hit a little - for the day, Zalnis goes  3x7, (2 hr in game 1), knocking in eight and scoring four. Matt Beyer went 3x8 while tallying four runs and four RBIs.  Ryan Leavitt also had a nice day at the plate going 4x6 while scoring three and knocking in two.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 18, 2009, 07:44:31 PM
Platteville finishes the sweep, winning game two in a mercy rule, 14-3.  The 10 first inning runs scored on 7 hits, 2 errors, 1 hbp, 1 walk.  Mrkvicka gets only 1 out in that inning before getting the hook.

Even with not knowing what happened in La Crosse, it's already been an interesting beginning to the weekend.  Neither La Crosse or Stevens Point are reporting anything as of this time.

In the WIAC, if today in Oshkosh is any indication, what goes around, truly does come around.  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 18, 2009, 08:05:22 PM
A friend told me Point one game 1 16-6 and game 2 14-5 but I think he was drunk.  I cannot see that happening and am guessing he was just changing it around.  I would be shocked if Point won a game yet killed them.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 18, 2009, 08:14:53 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 18, 2009, 08:05:22 PM
A friend told me Point one game 1 16-6 and game 2 14-5 but I think he was drunk.  I cannot see that happening and am guessing he was just changing it around.  I would be shocked if Point won a game yet killed them.

Unfortunate for your friend that he was probably sober because those scores are correct. On LAC's website, first game was mercy rule in 8.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 18, 2009, 09:08:51 PM
And just like that if Point wins even 1 tomorrow they are back in the run to at least make the tourney.  I still think they will need to win 1 tomorrow and at least 2 of 4 against Oshkosh and also win at least 3 against Superior and Platteville.  Perhaps some of their underclassmen are starting to play like Sophs or Juniors instead of Freshman.  I'm happy and surprised at the same time but tomorrow will tell me a lot of whether they had a good day today or their turning their season around.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 18, 2009, 10:21:33 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 18, 2009, 09:08:51 PM
And just like that if Point wins even 1 tomorrow they are back in the run to at least make the tourney.  I still think they will need to win 1 tomorrow and at least 2 of 4 against Oshkosh and also win at least 3 against Superior and Platteville.  Perhaps some of their underclassmen are starting to play like Sophs or Juniors instead of Freshman.  I'm happy and surprised at the same time but tomorrow will tell me a lot of whether they had a good day today or their turning their season around.

Total surprise to me - I was really beginning to believe in La Crosse. I figured from what I've read posted from some Point fans that they were near death, bobbing in the sea of confusion. Other than the 4 games vs Superior, when Platteville scored 10 runs in 4 games, the Pioneers have been hitting and scoring a lot of runs, but how could Oshkosh not show up on such an important day?  Whitewater was the only front runner taking care of business. But tomorrow is a new day...



STANDINGS  (Through 4/18)CONFERENCEOVERALL
Whitewater
9-5
17-8
La Crosse
9-5
16-8
Oshkosh
6-4
14-10
Stevens Point
5-5
17-9
Platteville
7-7
15-13
Stout
5-7
14-10
Superior
1-9
8-17

Looks like the top 6 are going to knock each other around for the 4 playoff spots - who's going to get left in the dust? - I think I hear a bell ringing... ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 19, 2009, 03:19:57 PM
Huge 5-4 win for Oshkosh over Platteville today.  Oshkosh has to be one of the biggest disappointments in all D3 this year with what they had returning and their incoming freshman.  Anyone know Point-LaCrosse final for game 1?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 19, 2009, 04:32:22 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 19, 2009, 03:19:57 PM
Oshkosh has to be one of the biggest disappointments in all D3 this year with what they had returning and their incoming freshman.
Can we chalk this up as another over-reaction from you this season, just like Point not making the WIAC Tournament, Point needing to get Kyle Cummings out of the line-up, etc, etc, etc......?

Oshkosh lacked pitching depth last season, and that didn't change this year.  The only addition to the rotation was Kannenberg, and that has come at the expense of his bat being in the line-up everyday.  I'm sorry, but without a quality 4/5 man rotation, teams are going to lose some games throughout the WIAC season, especially with how the schedule is set-up, with 3 DH's a week.

BTW-Cummings was 5x8, with five runs scored and a pair of RBI's yesterday.  He is currently batting over.300, and leads the team in OB%.  But he "should only be allowed to pinch-run."  Sure..... ::)

Point won Game #1 over La Crosse today, 13-3, and in a BIG surprise, Superior beats Whitewater via the mercy rule, 10-0 in 8 innings.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 19, 2009, 05:06:49 PM
Cummings is hitting 300 because of one weekend.  I believe he was hitting 230 prior to this series.  I never said he's a bad ballplayer I was only suggesting that they let Iverson or Krueger play over him as I figured their season may be over.  I'll admit I was wrong but who would've thought Platteville would take probably 3 out of 4 at Oshkosh and that Superior would beat Whitewater today?  I don't think I'm the only one who thinks Oshkosh is a disappointment this year.  They had all their offense back and the pitching staff gained a year experience.  I had them losing 2-4 games total this year in the WIAC and about 7 or 8 overall.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 19, 2009, 05:20:00 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 19, 2009, 05:06:49 PM
Cummings is hitting 300 because of one weekend.  I believe he was hitting 230 prior to this series.  I never said he's a bad ballplayer I was only suggesting that they let Iverson or Krueger play over him as I figured their season may be over.  I'll admit I was wrong but who would've thought Platteville would take probably 3 out of 4 at Oshkosh and that Superior would beat Whitewater today?  I don't think I'm the only one who thinks Oshkosh is a disappointment this year.  They had all their offense back and the pitching staff gained a year experience.  I had them losing 2-4 games total this year in the WIAC and about 7 or 8 overall.
I don't disagree that UWO's season to this point has been disappointing, but one of the biggest in all of D3?  That's a bit of a stretch in my opinion.  Even with losing three out of four to Platteville, they still control their own destiny as far as their regular season finish goes.  No one else in the WIAC can say that.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 19, 2009, 05:44:36 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 19, 2009, 05:20:00 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 19, 2009, 05:06:49 PM
Cummings is hitting 300 because of one weekend.  I believe he was hitting 230 prior to this series.  I never said he's a bad ballplayer I was only suggesting that they let Iverson or Krueger play over him as I figured their season may be over.  I'll admit I was wrong but who would've thought Platteville would take probably 3 out of 4 at Oshkosh and that Superior would beat Whitewater today?  I don't think I'm the only one who thinks Oshkosh is a disappointment this year.  They had all their offense back and the pitching staff gained a year experience.  I had them losing 2-4 games total this year in the WIAC and about 7 or 8 overall.
I don't disagree that UWO's season to this point has been disappointing, but one of the biggest in all of D3?  That's a bit of a stretch in my opinion.  Even with losing three out of four to Platteville, they still control their own destiny as far as their regular season finish goes.  No one else in the WIAC can say that.   

UWO has been disappointing, but probably not the most disappointing in the nation because I think that designation goes to Chapman. But I would say UWO is the most disappointing in the midwest considering they were 29-11 (19-5 WIAC) last year. This year 15-11 (7-5 WIAC) with pretty much everyone returning. I think Brad Demmin injury is big but doesnt lead to that many losses.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 19, 2009, 06:52:59 PM
WARHAWKS take game two from Superior 11-2 (8 innings).   Dott goes the full 8 innings giving up 3 hits, 0 earned runs and strikes out 13.  Zalnis and Kuhlmann both go 3x4.  Zalnis and Rob Coe each have a pair of RBI.

Tassi picked up his first win of the season and threw a good game for Superior in the opener. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 19, 2009, 07:31:37 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 19, 2009, 03:19:57 PM
  Anyone know Point-LaCrosse final for game 1?

Point won 8-7. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 19, 2009, 07:46:14 PM
What a difference a weekend can make!!!  Just like that, Point puts themselves in position for a WIAC regular season title by sweeping all four games at La Crosse over the weekend, three of them in CONVINCING fashion.  Point and Oshkosh control their own destiny as far as the Regular Season Chmapionship goes.

Standings (Through 4/19/09)
Whitewater 10-6
La Crosse 9-7
Oshkosh 7-5
Point 7-5
Platteville 8-8
Stout 5-7
Superior 2-10

Like I said last week, I still think Whitewater is in the best shape to win the regular season title.  I think if they go 6-2 over their last eight games, they assure themselves of at least a tie for a WIAC Championship.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on April 19, 2009, 08:40:20 PM
I hate to toot my own horn here, but it's like i said earlier, it was way to early to start taking people out of contention for the regular season title, because it's weekends like this that change everything. Point can now control their own destiny, if they get 3 of 4 from UWO, UWS, and UWP they'll most likely be the regular season champ, well either them or WW.   But the way Platteville played this past weekend that could be a tough feat to accomplish.  I have to say that winning all 4 at LAX is a huge accomplishment for the Pointers and Coach Bloom, the last 4 years we never played well there, so getting that monkey off their back is awesome.  I hope the Pointers can keep this momentum going into Wednesday, because their going to be facing hungry, ticked off Oshkosh team that will be out for blood.  Watching the WIAC this year is very exciting, and I have a feeling it's only going to get better. 

*Glad to see that the tourney stayed as a double elimination format, that will make it really interesting. 

*What a bummer for Brad Demmin this year.  His senior year and he gets hurt in practice and has missed almost half of the season.  I'm sure he'll be back soon though.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 19, 2009, 10:17:22 PM
Quote from: BaseballFan on April 19, 2009, 05:44:36 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 19, 2009, 05:20:00 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 19, 2009, 05:06:49 PM
Cummings is hitting 300 because of one weekend.  I believe he was hitting 230 prior to this series.  I never said he's a bad ballplayer I was only suggesting that they let Iverson or Krueger play over him as I figured their season may be over.  I'll admit I was wrong but who would've thought Platteville would take probably 3 out of 4 at Oshkosh and that Superior would beat Whitewater today?  I don't think I'm the only one who thinks Oshkosh is a disappointment this year.  They had all their offense back and the pitching staff gained a year experience.  I had them losing 2-4 games total this year in the WIAC and about 7 or 8 overall.
I don't disagree that UWO's season to this point has been disappointing, but one of the biggest in all of D3?  That's a bit of a stretch in my opinion.  Even with losing three out of four to Platteville, they still control their own destiny as far as their regular season finish goes.  No one else in the WIAC can say that.   

UWO has been disappointing, but probably not the most disappointing in the nation because I think that designation goes to Chapman. But I would say UWO is the most disappointing in the midwest considering they were 29-11 (19-5 WIAC) last year. This year 15-11 (7-5 WIAC) with pretty much everyone returning. I think Brad Demmin injury is big but doesnt lead to that many losses.

Disappointing? My personal picks are Cortland State and Johns Hopkins (Both started in the Top 5).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 19, 2009, 10:29:59 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 19, 2009, 10:17:22 PM
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Disappointing? My personal picks are Cortland State and Johns Hopkins (Both started in the Top 5).

So did Chapman #2,  but Cortland St and JHU can save a season by winning an A bid.  Chapman doesnt have that option. But I would definately agree with your choices being disappointing. 4 of top 6 teams at preseason no longer ranked
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 20, 2009, 10:13:18 AM
Quote from: BaseballFan on April 19, 2009, 10:29:59 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 19, 2009, 10:17:22 PM
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Disappointing? My personal picks are Cortland State and Johns Hopkins (Both started in the Top 5).

So did Chapman #2,  but Cortland St and JHU can save a season by winning an A bid.  Chapman doesnt have that option. But I would definately agree with your choices being disappointing. 4 of top 6 teams at preseason no longer ranked

The voters are the ones who are disappointing.  Is it the individual teams fault if those calling the shots can get it so wrong? I'd say wait until the 7th or 8th week of the season before conducting a poll.  Do you realize that Oshkosh had played a grand total of 1 game by the 5th week of the season while Texas-Tyler has 26 games under their belts at the same time. I think any poll produced under those conditions is meaningless. The baseball poll is nothing more than a glorified beauty contest. If you're going to have a valid poll, I would suggest teams would have to play a minimum of 10 games before they were eligible to be included.  How can you put a 0-0 Oshkosh team at #22 in the 4th week of the season if it isn't based only on reputation?   :-\
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 20, 2009, 10:24:42 AM
Wow, what a weekend!  Lots of surprises around the league, the biggest of which IMO was UWO losing three to UWP.  I'm not surprised that superior beat up WW by the mercy rule one game because they are an emerging team and are capable of doing that to anyone at anytime.  Point's sweep lax was huge for them, and now magnifies the hurt that was a result of an 0-4 weekend against the hawks earlier this season.  If they split that series or win three of four like they very easily could have, they are standing awfully pretty right now for their first regular season title in years!  Still, they are in a position to go out on top by playing some good ball here during the next couple of weeks.  Must split with UWO to have any chance though.  

To catch up on some other posts (I was gone all weekend)...UWO is a disappointment to me this year, but in no way a national disgrace, that's ridiculous.  Cummings is in the lineup for a reason, like what you see or not he earned that position...and trust me Bloom isn't starting him because he's a senior!  Say what you want about one weekend making his average for the year, but hitting .300 is a very respectable clip.  

Looking back on my thoughts of last week, I'm glad to see point pull it together and sweep lax at lax (like was mentioned for the first time in the bloom era)!  I still believe that the mental aspect of their game is going to be the biggest hurdle for them, and it appears that the leadership is there and has emerged to lead the club in the right direction.  sometimes it just takes a couple (or a lot) of bad losses in a row to light that fire and get some guys going.  If that fire stays light for point, they are a legit contender for the number one spot.  Funny that I say that, as last week I was questioning their ability to make the tourney...but I was saying all that with full confidence in the team, and assuming that the teams ahead of them were going to keep up the work that they had been doing, and that did not happen.  UWO almost getting swept by UWP is a nasty weekend for the titans.  It's a sprint to the finish line now, and there really isn't a favorite in my opinion, it could really go to anyone of the top 4-6 teams!  
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanBystander on April 20, 2009, 10:44:08 AM
RE:  Oshkosh historically throwing away games & conference championships against Platteville
Quote from: TitanBystander on February 10, 2009, 04:57:20 PM
That is...If they don't throw away games against Platteville. 
Think about this, if you were to throw out one of the three losses to Platteville in 2006, and 1 ugly loss to them in 2008, the Titans would be on a 3 year conference championship winning streak. I know, IF only..., but it just shows how tight the league really is.  One unexpected loss can kill you.  Hard to believe that the conference championship may be decided April 18-19 when Platteville visits Tiedeman Field.

How prophetic was this statement?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: poly god on April 20, 2009, 10:53:56 AM
Great weekend for Point. And they needed it to say the least! Alot of hits all over the line up. The only concern for me is Surman. He does not seem to be moving or swinging well. Is he trying to play through an injury?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 20, 2009, 02:03:47 PM
I used to think the phrase "Wacky WIAC" was only used to describe the basketball season, however after this weekend, I guess baseball is going to need to use it as well.

-Point was being written off by some on here, and had been swept by Whitewater as recently as just a couple of weeks ago.  La Crosse had just gotten done splitting a four-game set against nationally ranked Whitewater last weekend and sweeping Platteville on Wednesday.  So what happens this weekend?  Point goes to La Crosse and sweeps all four games from the Eagles.

-Oshkosh, who was considered the favorite by some on here (myself included) beats Whitewater for the third time via the mercy rule on Wednesday, but then proceeds to struggle this weekend and is beaten three times by Platteville.

-Superior, who had won just one WIAC game this season, knocks off Whitewater via the mercy rule on Sunday, 10-0.

I said before the weekend that this six-game stretch was going to make or break Point.  Well, by sweeping La Crosse, the Pointers are right back in the race.  However the shoe is now on the other foot this week, as Oshkosh's season may come down to how they play over the next eight days, having the pair against Point the next two Wednesdays with a four game set at home against La Crosse sandwiched in between on Saturday and Sunday.  Anything less than 4-4, and it may be the Titans who are in jeopardy of missing the WIAC Tournament.

If this is what we can expect over the next two weeks, buckle in for an enjoyable ride.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 20, 2009, 02:19:24 PM
Quote from: Brewers20 on April 19, 2009, 08:40:20 PM
*What a bummer for Brad Demmin this year.  His senior year and he gets hurt in practice and has missed almost half of the season.  I'm sure he'll be back soon though.
Don't be so sure about that.....  I have heard some news on the situation and lets just say the injury is worse than first thought.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: titan2000 on April 20, 2009, 09:07:56 PM
What is the nature of the injury?  Can Lechnir recruit someone from the student body to fill in this late in the season?

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 21, 2009, 09:12:25 AM
great start for zimmy last night against the braves.  a two hour delay due to rain finally made way for his first career victory, over derek lowe mind you!  He was a little erratic from time to time, but other than the home run to diaz on an elevated fastball (0-2) he didn't really make any major mistakes.  He looked extremely calm and put together considering the circumstances.  Only threw 72 pitches in 6 innings and would have thrown more if not for a bottom of the 6th rally that saw him get pinch hit for.  I believe of those 72 pitches 51 were strikes!  Good Start  :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: UWP SID on April 21, 2009, 09:46:08 AM
Zimmermann's pitching was especially needed for a team that is literally missing its "O".

Check out how the team names on Dunn's and Ryan Zimmerman's jerseys were spelled Friday night.

http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/the_sporting_blog/entry/view/23207/natinals_make_bizarre_cash-saving_pick
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 21, 2009, 10:14:15 AM
Quote from: UWP SID on April 21, 2009, 09:46:08 AM
Zimmermann's pitching was especially needed for a team that is literally missing its "O".

Check out how the team names on Dunn's and Ryan Zimmerman's jerseys were spelled Friday night.

http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/the_sporting_blog/entry/view/23207/natinals_make_bizarre_cash-saving_pick


No wonder they're off to the worst start in MLB!!  ;)

That had to be an intentional stunt.

Oh, and as good a game as he pitched, ESPN highlights (http://espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=290420120) only showed 1 pitch that he threw, the gopher ball to Diaz...welcome to the big leagues, kid!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 21, 2009, 12:35:05 PM
Quote from: BoBo on April 21, 2009, 10:14:15 AM
Quote from: UWP SID on April 21, 2009, 09:46:08 AM
Zimmermann's pitching was especially needed for a team that is literally missing its "O".

Check out how the team names on Dunn's and Ryan Zimmerman's jerseys were spelled Friday night.

http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/the_sporting_blog/entry/view/23207/natinals_make_bizarre_cash-saving_pick


No wonder they're off to the worst start in MLB!!  ;)

That had to be an intentional stunt.

Oh, and as good a game as he pitched, ESPN highlights (http://espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=290420120) only showed 1 pitch that he threw, the gopher ball to Diaz...welcome to the big leagues, kid!!


MLB network talked about Zimmermann for awhile. Mitch Williams was really high on him and said when he was in trouble he got out of it except for one pitch. Oh and Zimmermann was hitting 96 in the first inning and the deuce look nasty!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 21, 2009, 02:19:41 PM
I watched the whole game, and he was never really in any serious trouble.  Chipper hit a triple (thanks to dunn lumbering around out there) with no body out, and with 2 outs and an 0-2 count to diaz that's when the homerun came.  So he darn near worked his way out of that one.  Other than that, he had some baserunners, but never a big jam that he needed to work out of.  Got one double play ball to end an inning with guys on first and second.  He was definitely anxious though, you could see it in his location and the off speed pitches.  the fastball was missing up often, and on two of the hits for sure he missed his spot by the width of the plate, but he was still good enough to only allow 6 hits!  I was very impressed with his composure.  The curveball is nasty, he didn't have that one at point, and his slider was absolutely dominating the opposing batters!  When he got beat it was with the fastball that usually missed his spot.  It was a good example of how major league batters will make you pay for missing a spot.  It will be fun to see what he can do when he's really on top of his game, because he can certainly throw better than that...and he will!  unbelievable to go out there and beat lowe in your major league debut though...too bad is was only in front of 1,000 people! 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanBystander on April 21, 2009, 02:35:14 PM
Quote from: Dagger on April 21, 2009, 02:19:41 PM
...too bad is was only in front of 1,000 people! 

It is unfortunte that the stands were empty, but I'm sure it didn't matter to him or the friends & family that came to see his debut.  Personally, I would sit through a Katrina sized hurricane to see any of my kids dream come true. 

I found it funny that the SportsCenter I was watching this morning had to bring up the fact that he was from Wisconsin about 5 times in the 60 second segment.  Just stopped short of saying that the only athletic thing we do here is milk cows.       
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 21, 2009, 04:57:56 PM
The information previously linked regarding the conference tournament was incorrect.  This was probably due to the fact that the information was distributed last fall prior to the final decision being made on location and format. 

If I'm understanding the information I've received correctly the 3 and 4 seeds will play the first game and the loser will be eliminated.  The winner will move on to play the loser of the match up between the 1 and 2 seeds and that loser will be eliminated.  If it happened to be the winner of the original 3-4 matchup they would be eliminated with a single loss.  If it happened to be the loser of the 1-2 matchup it would be a second loss.  It would be possible for the league champion to be determined with two wins. 

This is how I'm understanding it.  I've requested clarification and if that is received and changes anything I'll post a correction.

Congrats to J. Zimmermann.  A great start to what I hope is a long career.  The Nats pitching is bad enough that he may end up moving up in the rotation.  They've already dumped two pitchers though both were on the relief staff. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: titan2000 on April 21, 2009, 06:06:45 PM
Great.

That means Lechnir can save his ace for Game 3 and never use him.   ???
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 21, 2009, 09:29:03 PM
Think of the new tournament format as a standard 4-team double elimination, except that the first two games have already been played and the higher seed has won.  Seeds 3 and 4 have dropped down to the losers bracket and Seeds 1 and 2 have advanced. Start from Game 3 and it works just like a regular bracket.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 22, 2009, 04:41:49 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 21, 2009, 04:57:56 PM
The information previously linked regarding the conference tournament was incorrect.  This was probably due to the fact that the information was distributed last fall prior to the final decision being made on location and format. 

If I'm understanding the information I've received correctly the 3 and 4 seeds will play the first game and the loser will be eliminated.  The winner will move on to play the loser of the match up between the 1 and 2 seeds and that loser will be eliminated.  If it happened to be the winner of the original 3-4 matchup they would be eliminated with a single loss.  If it happened to be the loser of the 1-2 matchup it would be a second loss.  It would be possible for the league champion to be determined with two wins. 

This is how I'm understanding it.  I've requested clarification and if that is received and changes anything I'll post a correction.

Congrats to J. Zimmermann.  A great start to what I hope is a long career.  The Nats pitching is bad enough that he may end up moving up in the rotation.  They've already dumped two pitchers though both were on the relief staff. 
Thanks for the update, bw. The WIAC site now has a link to the tourney. I got sick of waiting, so I Googled it. Turns out it was outdated. Thought the 2009 part of it looked good.

http://www.wiacsports.com/baseball/2009Bracket.pdf (http://www.wiacsports.com/baseball/2009Bracket.pdf)

EDIT: I deleted the older post/link to avoid confusion.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 22, 2009, 03:34:19 PM
Point 8
Oshkosh 7

Top 8th

Sounds like Oshkosh has squandered a few opportunities in the middle innings.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 22, 2009, 06:39:45 PM
Point wins 12-10 in 11 on Sam Spurney's walk off HR to Left.  I'm officially done posting after this post.  I now realize how dumb I am stating for Point to bench Cummings and of course since that statement he's been the best hitter in the WIAC.  I think he was on base 5 or 6 times in the game.  He has made a complete turnaround at the plate that's for sure.  I have to say that was one of the best back and forth games I've seen for some time but Oshkosh did waste a lot of chances.  Their was a very controversial call towards the end of the game in which Oshkosh had guys on 1rst and 2nd with nobody out and there was a play at first where Schoch was definitely off the base and the first base ump didn't see it and the home plate ump didn't see it either so they called the guy out.  I haven't seen Oshkosh's crowd that pissed in years.  That was a huge break for Point.  Anyone know why Jason Fosler didn't play?  I finally got info from a 100% credible source that Demmin is done for year but their hoping to get a medical redshirt.  Something about them needing to play so many games for him to have not played 1/3 of the season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 22, 2009, 06:51:34 PM
It was a true back and forth game.....  Oshkosh scored three times in the 8th to take a 10-8 lead, however Point answered with a pair of solo HR's in the bottom of the 8th to tie it 10-10.  I believe UWO hits into their second bases loaded DP in either the 9th or 10 to squander another scoring opportunity, and Spurney wins it in the 10th.

Game #1 FINALS
Whitewater 6
Platteville 5        (12 Innings)

Superior 11
Stout 5

Point 12
Oshkosh 10         (10 Innings)

Game #2 FINALS
Superior 6
Stout 1

Oshkosh 9
Point 6
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 22, 2009, 07:50:55 PM
Ben Kuhlmann hit a bases loaded single over a drawn in infield giving Whitewater the win over Platteville in the first game of their doubleheader at Whitewater.  The win gave UW-W head coach John Vodenlich his 200th win in his sixth season at the school.

Aaron Dott, 5-3, picked up the win with three and two thirds innings of hitless relief. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 22, 2009, 09:04:25 PM
Point lost game 2 9-6.  I know they were down 6-0 in the 4th but wasn't at game 2.  Any details?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 22, 2009, 09:22:55 PM
The second game between the WARHAWKS was suspended due to darkness.  It's the top of the 9th, WARHAWKS lead 7-5, Platteville has a runner on first with no outs.  The game will be resumed prior to the doublehitter next Wednesday.

Congrats to the UW-WHITEWATER women's softball team who by sweeping Oshkosh today 8-1 and 3-2 clinched at least a tie for the WIAC regular season championship.  The WARHAWKS 29-3, 14-0 have a two game lead over second place Eau Claire (10-2) with only a doublehitter between the two remaining.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 22, 2009, 09:31:39 PM
Standings (Through 4/22/09)
Whitewater 11-6
Oshkosh 8-6
Point 8-6
La Crosse 9-7
Platteville 8-9
Stout 5-9
Superior 4-10

*Game Two between Whitewater and Platteville suspended with Whitewater leading 7-5, heading into the Top of the 9th.  It will be resumed before the teams regularly scheduled DH next Wednesday at 12:30.

Whitewater moves one step closer to winning the 2009 WIAC Regualr Season Championship with their win (and near win) over Platteville today.  The real "race" is now for the all important #2 seed, between Oshkosh, Point, and La Crosse.  You don't want to be the #3 or #4 seed and know you are eliminated after just one loss.  The only real difference between the #1 and #2 seed is the "home-field" advantage.  Things should get a little more clear after this weekend with two of the combatants squaring off as La Crosse travels to Oshkosh for four games.  Both teams would likely need to win three out of four to have any chance at the #2 seed, assuming Point takes care of business in Superior.  (Although we saw last weekend that Superior has the abiity to take a game from one of the front-runners, and are playing really well right now.)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 22, 2009, 09:32:53 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 22, 2009, 06:39:45 PM
Anyone know why Jason Fosler didn't play? 
He started Game #1 and went 1x3, before being PH for.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 22, 2009, 09:44:15 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 22, 2009, 09:04:25 PM
Point lost game 2 9-6.  I know they were down 6-0 in the 4th but wasn't at game 2.  Any details?
Nix struggled and didn't make it out of the 3rd inning before giving up six runs.  Demmin went the distance, having really only one bad inning (4th) where Point got four of their seven hits and five of their six runs.

REALLY different line-up for Oshkosh in Game #2, as regulars like M. Fadness, Wetenkamp, and Fosler didn't see the field.  Instead players like Eichstaedt, Helland, and Wirth saw starts instead.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 22, 2009, 09:56:37 PM
That's very disappointing for Point having your supposed ace and senior on top of it not make it out of the 3rd.  Point really had a chance it sounds like to bury Oshkosh especially if Oshkosh didn't play those guys and not having their best player(Demmin).  I'm certainly happy Point split and being at the first game they were lucky to win that one.  I guess all that matters is making the tournament but like earlier posts state it will suck to be a 3 or 4.  Point will be hurt by the fact they don't have a standout reliable pitcher and may run into Platteville(Lange) first game.  I hope Point can avoid it but I think they will finish 3 or 4.  I really don't like the new format whatsoever and think it should stay the way it was except it being at Witter field.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 22, 2009, 11:37:58 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 22, 2009, 06:39:45 PM
I'm officially done posting after this post. 
Hey, you made it 2 hours and 25 minutes on that promise!  Nice work.

Just kidding, I don't want anyone to stop posting.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan20 on April 23, 2009, 05:06:41 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 22, 2009, 09:31:39 PM
Standings (Through 4/22/09)
Whitewater 11-6
Oshkosh 8-6
Point 8-6
La Crosse 9-7
Platteville 8-9
Stout 5-9
Superior 4-10

*Game Two between Whitewater and Platteville suspended with Whitewater leading 7-5, heading into the Top of the 9th.  It will be resumed before the teams regularly scheduled DH next Wednesday at 12:30.

Whitewater moves one step closer to winning the 2009 WIAC Regualr Season Championship with their win (and near win) over Platteville today.  The real "race" is now for the all important #2 seed, between Oshkosh, Point, and La Crosse.  You don't want to be the #3 or #4 seed and know you are eliminated after just one loss.  The only real difference between the #1 and #2 seed is the "home-field" advantage.  Things should get a little more clear after this weekend with two of the combatants squaring off as La Crosse travels to Oshkosh for four games.  Both teams would likely need to win three out of four to have any chance at the #2 seed, assuming Point takes care of business in Superior.  (Although we saw last weekend that Superior has the abiity to take a game from one of the front-runners, and are playing really well right now.)
WW doesnt have it in the bag yet.  OSH still has that tie breaker against them.  If WW wins out, which they could, then they will prolly win it.  But if they lose a couple close ones...and OSH takes care of business this weekend...it could come down to the last seriesi..
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanBystander on April 23, 2009, 05:12:51 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 22, 2009, 06:39:45 PM
Their was a very controversial call towards the end of the game in which Oshkosh had guys on 1rst and 2nd with nobody out and there was a play at first where Schoch was definitely off the base and the first base ump didn't see it and the home plate ump didn't see it either so they called the guy out.  I haven't seen Oshkosh's crowd that pissed in years. 

Tough break for our guys...Good to see Pointer fans agreed that we got hosed on that call.
What rankled me was that the base umpire immediately signaled for help because - given his line of sight - he couldn't see if the 1B had held the bag or not.  The home plate umpire (who was still behing the plate & had a perfect angle) simply shrugged his shoulders as if to say " I have no clue - I wasn't watching".  There was only one thing to look for on that play & he obviously wasn't paying attention. 

Base loaded no outs Vs. 2nd & 3rd with one out are two very different situations.  Result of the inning was 0 runs.       
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 23, 2009, 08:30:13 PM
Quote from: TitanBystander on May 24, 1970, 09:53:31 AM


Base loaded no outs Vs. 2nd & 3rd with one out are two very different situations.  Result of the inning was 0 runs.      

Obviously they are two different situations but none the less 2nd and 3rd with one out is still a situation in which a team will score as often as not.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanBystander on April 24, 2009, 09:14:48 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 23, 2009, 08:30:13 PM
Quote from: TitanBystander on May 24, 1970, 09:53:31 AM


Base loaded no outs Vs. 2nd & 3rd with one out are two very different situations.  Result of the inning was 0 runs.      

Obviously they are two different situations but none the less 2nd and 3rd with one out is still a situation in which a team will score as often as not.   

You're right - we should have scored, but when the next batter (after an intentional walk) grounds to 2B for the start of a double play, the one out that shouldn't have been gets Point out of the inning unscathed.   If only...If only...If only...I know - you can't base future events on what happened in the past.

The key point of my original message was that the plate umpire screwed the pooch by not paying attention.  That's why the UWO fans were so pissed.  This particular situation most definitely led to runs not getting scored.  I wouldn't blame opposing fans for getting ticked off if it happened to them either.     
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 24, 2009, 09:41:51 AM
Point taken
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: titan2000 on April 25, 2009, 03:09:18 PM
Point taken, Point sucks   ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 25, 2009, 04:07:47 PM
Stout beats Whitewater 9-5 in game one  :o

Oshkosh on the verge of winning game one over lacrosse
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 25, 2009, 04:33:31 PM
Game #1 Finals
Oshkosh 10
La Crosse 6

Stout 9
Whitewater 5

Point 10
Superior 7
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 25, 2009, 06:49:08 PM
Game two:
WW: 8
Stout: 4

Hooper (5-2) gets the win going 7 innings giving up 5 hits and 4 runs, none earned.  Schmidt finishes. 

Jordan Zimmermann is scheduled to make his second start Sunday vs NY Mets.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan20 on April 25, 2009, 09:43:00 PM
UWO wins both games in good fashion...back on top in the conference tie with stevens point...big games tom and wed...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 25, 2009, 10:36:39 PM
Quote from: Titan20 on April 25, 2009, 09:43:00 PM
UWO wins both games in good fashion...back on top in the conference tie with stevens point...big games tom and wed...
Hope Rubens can bounce back after a few shaky outings of late. Demmin's probable start looms large tomorrow.

Kanny put in a another full day of work. He's gotta be the UWO MVP so far this year. Maybe not the best numbers on the team, but he's definitely been a lifesaver for a team that could have gone either a way less than two weeks ago.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 25, 2009, 11:53:41 PM
WIAC Standings (Through 4/25) 
                    W-L     Overall W-L
Whitewater      12-7     20-10
Stevens Point   10-6     22-10
Oshkosh           10-6    18-12
La Crosse          9-9     17-13
Platteville          8-9     17-15
Stout               6-10    15-13
Superior            4-12    12-20
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 26, 2009, 05:27:22 PM
Zimmermann goes 5.1 innings giving up 6 hits and 1 earned run to pick win #2, 8-1 over the Mets.  He's carrying a 2.38 era.  It was the Nationals first road win of the of the season. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan20 on April 27, 2009, 09:21:17 AM
UWO sweeps LaCrosse to put them atop the league again.  A very close game in the first one on sunday.  UWO down one going into the bottom of the 9th...2 outs and no one on and 1-2 pitch i do believe..single, whild pitch and another single to tie it and titans won it in the 11th....
2 big games coming up wed. vs. point.  every team very much alive and this week should be exciting!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 27, 2009, 10:11:17 AM
Standings (Through 4/26/09)
Oshkosh 12-6
Whitewater 12-7
Point 10-6
Platteville 8-9
La Crosse 9-11
Stout 6-10
Superior 4-12

*Game Two between Whitewater and Platteville suspended with Whitewater leading 7-5, heading into the Top of the 9th.  It will be resumed before the teams regularly scheduled DH Wednesday at 12:30.

With Oshkosh winning all four games over the weekend, it puts a little bit of pressure on Whitewater and Point to take care of business on Monday.  I'm not sure there is another field in the WIAC that could have been played on yesterday, other than Tiedemann.  While the outfield was pretty wet (most balls in the gap had no chance of rolling to the fence) the infield, pitcher's mound, and batters box were in very good shape thanks to the infield tarp.  I have to give creidt to the UWL guys for helping put the tarp on and taking it off.  I've seen other teams in the same situation sit in the dugout and watch, yet still get their tails kicked once the games started.   ;D

Kannenberg finished a solid weekend coming on in relief and picking up the victory throwing 4 1/3 scoreless innings.  He was actually getting loose in the bottom of the 8th in Game #2 just in case things got hairy.  For the weekend, he picked up a pair of victories and a save, to bounce back nicely from the loss in relief to POint on Wednesday.

The question was brought up on Sunday, so I thought this may be a good place to find the answer....  How many WIAC fields have the full infield tarps?  I honestly can't remember, but I thought Whitewater did along with Oshkosh, but I couldn't think of anyone else.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 27, 2009, 10:27:30 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 27, 2009, 10:11:17 AM
Standings (Through 4/26/09)
Oshkosh 12-6
Whitewater 12-7
Point 10-6
Platteville 8-9
La Crosse 9-11
Stout 6-10
Superior 4-12

*Game Two between Whitewater and Platteville suspended with Whitewater leading 7-5, heading into the Top of the 9th.  It will be resumed before the teams regularly scheduled DH Wednesday at 12:30.

A runner on first and no outs for Platteville in that suspended game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 27, 2009, 10:31:35 AM
La Crosse sure picked a bad time to go into a deep freeze.  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 27, 2009, 11:34:29 AM
Only if you are a Whitewater fan did they pick a bad time!!!  If you are a Pointer or Titan fan, the timing couldn't have been better!!!! ;D 

Regardless, in a matter of only NINE days, La Crosse went from 9-3, to 9-11 in WIAC play!!!  Ouch!!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 27, 2009, 12:33:06 PM
Point has a full infield tarp also...it was the timber rattlers old tarp.  It has some holes in it from a slight mishap on the way back from appleton (flying out of the back of the truck! haha...but it gets the job done.  It has also been beaten up by us shoveling snow off of it and that kind of fun stuff, but it's an infield tarp nonetheless and it sure beats having nothing at all.  Point is slowly building up their facilities and trying to bring them up to a par with the other big dogs!  It will get done sooner or later, bloom is too committed to the team to allow otherwise, but Point has one of if not the smallest budget in the conference for baseball!  It makes things very difficult to try and spruce up the grounds...there's other issues that have slowed progress with the university and some stupid rules that make no sense, but expect the grounds at university field to look much more impressive over the coming years!  They have a good start already with the new duguouts.  They are looking to build more permanent seating as well as a party deck down the line in right field (I believe could be left?).  so it will be a pretty cool atmosphere when that gets completed, unless plans have changed.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan20 on April 27, 2009, 01:13:53 PM
anyone no the point superior game one final?  or no where there is a link to the game?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 27, 2009, 02:20:11 PM
Point won 10-7 and 9-2.  The details are linked on Superior's website on the schedule and results page.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 27, 2009, 02:22:14 PM
He was talking about today's 11:00 AM Point/Superior game, not Saturday's......
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 27, 2009, 02:53:36 PM
According to Superior's website, the completion of Game #1 has been moved from an 11:00 AM start to 1:00 PM.

Apparently Stout's connection has frozen, with Stout leading Whitewater 1-0 in the Bottom of the 1st inning.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 27, 2009, 03:34:57 PM
Through seven innings, Stout has opened up a 6-1 lead over Whitewater. 

A couple of points of interest:
1.  The Warhawks second leading hitter on the season. Sam Petrasko, is absent from the Whitewater line-up.  Just getting the game off, or is there more to it?

2.  Ethan Smallbrook, the starting pitcher for Stout today, has a grand total of 14 IP and an ERA over 6.00 going into today.   Pitcher's day maybe?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanBystander on April 27, 2009, 04:28:50 PM
According to Livestats on Stout's web site, Stout wins game #1 6-1.  Smallbrook throws a complete game 8 hitter. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 27, 2009, 04:31:34 PM
Game #1 Finals
Stout 6
Whitewater 1

Point 9
Superior 5

Whitewater's offense continues to struggle, and has really cost them the past couple of days....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 27, 2009, 05:12:50 PM
Looked like WW really shook up the lineup today in game one!  Not sure the reasoning, if it's just to get some guys a little time, or if it's Vo sending his starters a message that they're not going to keep on playing if they don't get it done!  My bet is on the latter, but that's just me :)

Big win for Point in game one, if they can hold off the jackets and get the sweep they are looking pretty good coming down to platteville next weekend.  If Point can take both from UWO they can afford to slip up a little down in platteville.  I see it as a split against the titans, and 3-4 from platteville.  I havn't looked too closely at the standings, but I believe if that happens then one loss from UWO would put point on top for the first time in the bloom era (correct me if I'm wrong on that scenario, kind of busy right now so again I didn't look at the standings).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 27, 2009, 05:55:22 PM
Quote from: Dagger on April 27, 2009, 05:12:50 PM
I see it as a split against the titans, and 3-4 from platteville.  I havn't looked too closely at the standings, but I believe if that happens then one loss from UWO would put point on top for the first time in the bloom era (correct me if I'm wrong on that scenario, kind of busy right now so again I didn't look at the standings).
If UWO/Point split on Wednesday like you predict, it will all come down to who does better over the weekend, since both Oshkosh and Point would be tied, at 13-7 going into the final weekend.  I believe Oshkosh would hold the tie-breaker over Point as well, so even if UWO drops one to Superior, Point would have to sweep Platteville for Point to come out on top. 

All of this will be MUCH more clear following Wednesday's set of games.....

(It appears Whitewater will bounce back and take Game #2 from Stout today, so they will be two out in the loss column going into Wednesday's games.  They will DEFINITELY be hoping for a UWO/Point split.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on April 27, 2009, 06:49:30 PM
Bench clearing brawl in Superior today, hopefully more info comes out soon.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: titan2000 on April 27, 2009, 07:17:13 PM
I think the Superior SS laughed at the Point 1B when he tripped on the ice fishing tip-up between 2B and 3B.  The Pointer took exception and hit the Superior SS with the ice skimmer.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 27, 2009, 07:34:31 PM
Quote from: Dagger on April 27, 2009, 05:12:50 PM
Looked like WW really shook up the lineup today in game one!  Not sure the reasoning, if it's just to get some guys a little time, or if it's Vo sending his starters a message that they're not going to keep on playing if they don't get it done!  My bet is on the latter, but that's just me :)

That would be my bet too.

WARHAWKS win game two 13-3 and salvage a split with Stout.  I think as the season has progressed it's become obvious that we simply haven't fielded a team as competitive of those of the recent past.  It doesn't mean that we couldn't get on a roll and make a run but I've been waiting for it to happen and it just doesn't seem to be.   Since the sweep of Point we just haven't been consistant.  Taking the remaining three games from Platteville is critical.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dukes on April 27, 2009, 08:24:23 PM
Looks like Superior beat Point 5-2 in the second game. Good for them. While it hasnt been as good of a year as some predicted for Superior at the beginning of the year, they also would never have won some of these games even a few years ago.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 27, 2009, 09:08:27 PM
Anyone know why Point Catcher Rennicke didn't play today?  I am not shocked that Superior took the 2nd game today as I was one of the ideots that predicted them to finish top 4 at the beginning of the year.  Looks like Oshkosh is going to take it with Point possibly finishing 2nd or 3rd although they have 6 really tough games left.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 27, 2009, 09:12:28 PM
Standings (Through 4/27/09)
Oshkosh 12-6
Whitewater 13-8
Point 11-7
Platteville 8-9
La Crosse 9-11
Stout 7-11
Superior 5-13

Pretty good day if your are a UWO backer, with both Point and Whitewater each losing a game today, while you're team is practicing.  Oshkosh would seem to be in pretty good shape if they could at least grab a split on Wednesday at Point, as they would stay a game ahead of Point, and remain in front of Whitewater going into the weekend.

The race for the #4 spot has REALLY gotten intersting, as Platteville will have their hands full this week with Whitewater and Point, while Stout and La Crosse will square off with each other.  While La Crosse seemed to play themselves out of the tournament over the last nine days, they could play themselves right back in with a good weekend.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 27, 2009, 09:26:25 PM
Quote from: BRONKO7 on April 27, 2009, 06:49:30 PM
Bench clearing brawl in Superior today, hopefully more info comes out soon.
Any details in the past few hours? 

Looking at the boxscores it  appears that there may have been a couple of ejections in the 8th inning of Game #1, after a play at 2B, with Spurney sliding in on Cummings.  Both Spurney and Cummings were ejected, along with Superior RF Lagadin.  Both Spurney and Lagadin played in Game #2, however Cummings did not see the field.

After looking at the boxscore, Point was 7 for 7 on stolen base attempts, yet were still only able to muster 2 runs. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: brewcrew2008 on April 28, 2009, 03:53:25 AM
Although I wasn't there I heard there was a benches clearing brawl in game one of the Point Superior game yesterday, it sounded like Spurney went in hard to break up a double play which started it, not sure of any other details
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 28, 2009, 11:46:41 AM
Awfully quiet around here today.... 

Figured with what "supposedly" happened up in Superior there would be a bit more chatter on here today.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 28, 2009, 12:06:40 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 28, 2009, 11:46:41 AM
Awfully quiet around here today.... 

Figured with what "supposedly" happened up in Superior there would be a bit more chatter on here today.

If a tree "supposedly" falls in the forest, but nobody is there to hear it, does it make a sound?  ;)   :-\
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on April 28, 2009, 12:10:06 PM
This was boiling from the start. Point has a guy who just sits on the bench and runs his mouth! Anyways..there was a homerun hit and then someone was hit, in my opinion unintentionally because it was a weak effort if it was on purpose. Later in the inning Spurney goes into second, spikes about belt high and gets Cummings. Spurney starts to get up and Cummings pushes him back to the ground. Within seconds Point is storming the field. UWS had no idea what was going on and hesitated leaving the bench, but soon did. At one point a kid from UWS is standing there not involved in anything and a Point player comes from the side and blasts him in the face.
Wierd that Point seems to have one of these a season. Maybe not having guys on your bench flapping their lips is a good idea.
I thought the WIAC really buckled down on this stuff, because it was getting emberassing...errrrrrrrrrrr  is emberassing.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pre16 on April 28, 2009, 12:29:53 PM
That's about what happened.  You could feel the tension between the teams on Saturday afternoon and it finally boiled over yesterday.  There's a difference between dugout chatter and being completely obnoxious and out of line.  Spurney went cleats up into second on a double play ball.  Cummings shoved him to the ground a couple times but it looked like Point was ready to go from the start.  They were on the field faster than the Superior 1B could get to second base.  There was a lot of pushing and shoving, with some punches thrown and landed.  I believe Cummings was the only player ejected from the game because Lagadin and Spurney both played in the 2nd game.  I think it fired Superior up, however.  Even though they lost that game, they came out and completely dominated the second game for a 5-2 victory with Lagadin pitching 7+. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 28, 2009, 01:56:21 PM
Quote from: Pre16 on April 28, 2009, 12:29:53 PM
I believe Cummings was the only player ejected from the game because Lagadin and Spurney both played in the 2nd game.
As far as Cummings being the only player ejected, I would have to disagree.  From looking at the box score, it appears all three of them were ejected from Game #1.  All three of them would be able to play Game #2, since it is a completely different game.  Ejections don't carry over from game-to-game in a DH.

It will be interesting to see if there are any suspensions do to this recent skirmish.  If prior practice is followed, you will likely see some type of penalty, which COULD hurt Point if Spurney is out for their DH with Oshkosh Wednesday or the DH against Platteville this weekend.  What may be a saving grace for both teams in all of this is that I doubt there was a TV station their covering the game, so the Commissioner won't have anything to review.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 28, 2009, 02:29:02 PM
I do know that Gary Karner (commissioner) is not a big fan of these things happening, as he shouldn't be, so I would almost guarantee that there will be further punishment for certain players.  It's going to be on the umpires and the coaches, and superior SID/Athletic director if they were there to fill in Gary on the details.  I wouldn't be surprised if Point gets a little talking to after this one also! 

The funny thing about it is that Coach Bloom in no way ever encourages something like that, and if you ask the guys on the team, 90% of them would not ever want to get involved.  But we are taught, and rightfully so, to not back down and take other teams crap!  That doesn't mean that you are supposed to fight other teams whenever you get a chance, Coach repeatedly steered us away from any thoughts along those lines, but I would have been out there in that scenario.  It's about protecting your guys at that point.  Maybe spurney was bush league in his slide (I don't know I wasn't there, sounds like he was) but cummings needs to be the bigger person then and if anything just talk trash, but pushing him down to the ground a couple times is asking for a whole bunch of pointers to respond!  As far as the random punchings that I read about, that's never justified...but with that said who knows what was being said out there and what that kid may have done one second before you saw him 'doing nothing'.   You hate to see that stuff, but at the same time it is a part of competitive athletics.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 28, 2009, 02:38:52 PM
Quote from: Dagger on April 28, 2009, 02:29:02 PM
Maybe spurney was bush league in his slide (I don't know I wasn't there, sounds like he was) but cummings needs to be the bigger person then and if anything just talk trash, but pushing him down to the ground a couple times is asking for a whole bunch of pointers to respond!  As far as the random punchings that I read about, that's never justified...but with that said who knows what was being said out there and what that kid may have done one second before you saw him 'doing nothing'.   You hate to see that stuff, but at the same time it is a part of competitive athletics.
Easier said than done....  According to that thinking, G. Bloom should have just got up talked a little trash and walked back to the dugout after the play at the plate last year.  Sorry, but that likely isn't going to happen no matter who you are!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 28, 2009, 04:17:30 PM
Bloom didn't say anything last year or start the fight, it was other players on our team who said something...and I have been cleated purposefully on three seperate occasions, one of which against whitewater (former team of course) which felt like my leg snapped in half and I was bleeding all over...I had some choice words for him, but that was it.  So it's not that hard to not push a guy down after a play.  I think it's more ridiculous that cummings did what he did than spurney doing what he did!  Not that spurney should have done that, because that's not cool, but it's also part of breaking up a play...I don't feel like he would do something like that on purpose.  Sometimes you tell yourself you're going in hard and stuff happens, it's a fast paced game out there.  Obviously Coach Morgan felt a similar reaction to cummings actions out there by not playing him the second game, that was a coaching call not a suspension!  I'm not justifying any of the actions by point, or superior for that matter, I wasn't there to see it all unfold...but from what I gathered, if Cummings doesn't push spurney down a couple times nothing happens.  Take the hard slide like a man and walk away, you play on the middle infield in a very competitive college conference, it's going to happen.   There's no need to react the way that he did.  Use that as motivation and go rip a line drive your next at bat to repay the other team! 

On a side note, I was never a big fan of the dougout talk at point...it is what it is, and is not the worst in the conference by any means but I agree that it is over the top and often times disrespectful!  So I can imagine there was some tension during this series. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 28, 2009, 04:28:46 PM
Re-read my post....  I never said G. Bloom did say anything last year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 28, 2009, 04:37:44 PM
I did re-read your post and came up with the same conclusion...how else is that supposed to be read?  Not to mention I wasn't really going after you or your comment anyway, I was more focused on this current event. 

I have spoken with several people, both players and fans (neutral ones at that) that all said the slide was very hard but also very legal.  If it was an illegal slide Spurney would have been kicked out for it, but he wasn't.  Trust me the umps watch that stuff very VERY closely.  There's no way at all that the ump would have missed spurney 'coming in with cleats waist high!' they would have sent him packing immediately...so the dirty slide rumor is put to rest!  Now it was a hard slide no doubt and it did take him out, but it's his own fault for standing there and not getting out of the way.  There's no rule that says you can't slide into a fielder when he's standing right on the base.  What's unacceptable is taking your season's frustrations out by kicking and punching a player for coming hard, especially when there was no foul play involved.  and if you're going to start a fight like a big boy don't turn and run like a little one once your opponent gains his footing!  That's bush league stuff right there, and at a time that superior is trying to regain respectability in this conference.  If you're going to start a fight at least stick around to finish it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: goldgloveOF on April 28, 2009, 06:21:12 PM
Quoteand if you're going to start a fight like a big boy don't turn and run like a little one once your opponent gains his footing!

I don't think Cummings turned and ran like a little boy.  If he's going to start something he's not going to back down, and I don't think Superior is either.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 28, 2009, 09:52:58 PM
Quote from: goldgloveOF on April 28, 2009, 06:21:12 PM
Quoteand if you're going to start a fight like a big boy don't turn and run like a little one once your opponent gains his footing!

I don't think Cummings turned and ran like a little boy.  If he's going to start something he's not going to back down, and I don't think Superior is either.

I've heard several accounts all from different people with different connections to both schools, and the almost all of them are identical in the key facts.  Those are as follows:
1. spurney went in very hard to second base on a slow grounder to third and contacted cummings
2. cummings did not get off the base, thus asking to get hammered by the runner
3. spurney slide straight into the bag, with his cleats at an acceptable height (if off the ground at all) as indicated by the umpire not calling any shenanigans
4. cummings didn't like the slide and kicked and punched spurney while he was on the ground
5. points bench immediately stormed the field, (as they should have in that situation)
6. superior looked confused and didn't do much of anything
7. after jumping on spurney cummings seemed to find his way to greener (safer) pastures

....and so on and so forth....

The only thing that is bothering me about all of this is that people are jumping on points butts about getting into fights, when this is clearly just a coincidence that cummings mugged one of our players.  No other team in the country would have reacted any differently in that situation, and if anyone disagrees I'd like to hear your opinion on the situation.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 28, 2009, 10:34:07 PM
If it's been a heated game and Sam Spurney is coming at my legs, if it all possible I get up and out of the way of Sam Spurney, get my two outs and tell Sam Spurney what I thought of his slide over my shoulder on my to the dugout. If there are only two outs, I'm now in one piece and I tell Sam Spurney what I thought of slide as he trots back to grab some bench.

I think all former and current middle infielders have taken bush and/or hard slides, and we all have the scars to prove it. However, I never punched or kicked a dude for crushing me. Sometimes it just happens (bad feed, bang-banger, etc.), but most of the time there are ways to avoid it. If you're still playing in college – especially in a hardnosed league like the WIAC – prior experience should let you know that if you don't avoid the shot you're going to get destroyed.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 28, 2009, 10:44:39 PM
Is this REALLY what the WIAC board has become this week? You have a great race for the title and all you are talking about is an on-field fight.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on April 29, 2009, 09:59:59 AM
Thanks Big Poppa, it looks like the focus has turned to something that isn't nearly as important as what could happen today.

Oshkosh @ Point

Platteville @ Whitewater (Have to finish game 2 of series with UWP up with a guy on first with no outs in the bottom of the 9th down 7-5)

Stout @ Superior

The top two double headers are very VERY important.  If Point sweeps, they're looking extremely good to bring home the hardware, given their past success  against Platteville.  If Whitewater loses one and Oshkosh sweeps, UWO is looking good to win the title.  If Point and Oshkosh split and Whitewater sweeps, then it will all come down to the last weekend, what a finish to the season that would be.  I knew the WIAC would be close, but not this close.  Hopefully today there are some good, clean, hard faught games around the league.

GO POINTERS!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 29, 2009, 10:04:17 AM
The finish in the WIAC regular season is VERY important as it appearsthe NCAA is leaning toward award two bids to the WIAC as of last week. A WIAC regualr season title might be enough to earn a Pool C bid should they falter in the WIAC tourney.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2009, 10:17:32 AM
Taking BP's lead, what does everyone think the pitching match-ups will look like today at Point?

I would guess UWO will likely go with their two "hottest" pitchers in Demmin and Kannenberg.  Kannenberg only faced two batters last week, so it would be a "new" look for the most part, and Demmin threw wel last week with the exception of one bad inning in UWO's 9-6 victory.

On the other hand, one would think Point would go with their lone lefty in Delorit to try and neutralize UWO's lefty line-up.  However the combination of Delorit just throwing six innings on Monday at Superior and getting "roughed-up" a bit last week, i doubt he gets a start today.  I would probably lean towards Williams and Barry getting the call as neither has faced UWO yet this season.  Regardless, I wouldn't be surprised to see Zielke log a few innings today, as he had a pretty light workload this weekend.

If I'm not mistaken the wind should be blowing in from left, but who knows if it will switch between now and 1:00.  Could make for one of the few "pitcher's days" at Point.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 29, 2009, 10:21:15 AM
I have no idea of what to think of the WIAC this year. It might be the most balanced league in the nation. To be this deep into the season and still have no clear-cut leader or obvious top four is amazing. So many teams still have a shot at the post-season which makes for great baseball.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 29, 2009, 10:29:08 AM
Quote from: Brewers20 on April 29, 2009, 09:59:59 AM
Thanks Big Poppa, it looks like the focus has turned to something that isn't nearly as important as what could happen today.

Oshkosh @ Point

Platteville @ Whitewater (Have to finish game 2 of series with UWP up with a guy on first with no outs in the bottom of the 9th down 7-5)


Actually, the suspended game is in the top of the 9th...it's being played at Whitewater!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on April 29, 2009, 11:19:27 AM
Not sure about everyone else, but I call this spikes high and definately off the ground....

http://www.superiortelegram.com/media/full/jpg/2009/04/28/u-41.jpg
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on April 29, 2009, 11:21:10 AM
I also know that umpire and he is a complete toolshed and I dont think he knows the game well enough to make the proper call on an illegal slide.  Even though it should really be the home plate ump making the call.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 29, 2009, 11:24:43 AM
Quote from: biggio34 on April 29, 2009, 11:19:27 AM
Not sure about everyone else, but I call this spikes high and definately off the ground....

http://www.superiortelegram.com/media/full/jpg/2009/04/28/u-41.jpg
To quote the immortal Rodney King, "Can't we all just get along?"
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on April 29, 2009, 11:44:07 AM
I've never seen a good hard slide to break up a double play end up with the infielders pants ripped from the ankle to up past the knee.

As for we shouldn't talk about it, hell yes we should. It's part of the game too.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on April 29, 2009, 12:16:12 PM
I forgot to give credit to the photographer---Jed Carlson from the Superior Telegram for his great shots. Excellent photographer that knows how to shoot sports. Has won numerous awards for his work.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 29, 2009, 12:20:27 PM
Quote from: biggio34 on April 29, 2009, 12:16:12 PM
I forgot to give credit to the photographer---Jed Carlson from the Superior Telegram for his great shots. Excellent photographer that knows how to shoot sports. Has won numerous awards for his work.



That IS a great shot.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 29, 2009, 12:28:50 PM
It is said that a picture is worth a thousand words.  That appears to be appropriate in this case.   Excellent photography.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on April 29, 2009, 12:30:43 PM
By the way, the reason Cummings wasn't in the second game was because he was at the hospital getting his THIGH stitched up. Not due to a coaching decision, so your unbias on looker was off a little bit.
As for the rules, you cannot break up a double play. You must take a strait line into the bag, not travel over the bag, or do anything to impede or intentionally distract the defensive player. Both the runner and the batter should be called out. It is the plate umpires responsibility to make the call on the person sliding.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 29, 2009, 12:38:53 PM
Quote from: biggio34 on April 29, 2009, 12:30:43 PM
By the way, the reason Cummings wasn't in the second game was because he was at the hospital getting his THIGH stitched up. Not due to a coaching decision, so your unbias on looker was off a little bit.
As for the rules, you cannot break up a double play. You must take a strait line into the bag, not travel over the bag, or do anything to impede or intentionally distract the defensive player. Both the runner and the batter should be called out. It is the plate umpires responsibility to make the call on the person sliding.

You are correct. The field umpire is expected to follow the ball as it is being thrown to first base. Most people blame the ump closest to the play and it is NEVER his call on the interference.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on April 29, 2009, 12:42:12 PM
From the picture you can see that the ball is still in the glove, thus no throw to first... if neither of the umps called anything, then I'd have to imagine they both fall into the toolshed category.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 29, 2009, 12:49:25 PM
Based on hand position, I'd say the second baseman was taking the out at second and not attempting to throw to first. if there is no attempt to throw, there cannot be interference, hence, no automatic double play. I am not saying it isn't a malicious slide, just that the defender does not appear to be in a throwing position.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 29, 2009, 01:02:23 PM
Quote from: biggio34 on April 29, 2009, 12:30:43 PM
As for the rules, you cannot break up a double play. You must take a strait line into the bag, not travel over the bag, or do anything to impede or intentionally distract the defensive player. Both the runner and the batter should be called out. It is the plate umpires responsibility to make the call on the person sliding.

thanks for the rules update, just in case I didn't play the middle infield for four years....You're also not expected to not make contact with a player when he's standing on second base, and if you look at your picture there's no way he's going to make an athletic attempt to turn anything there.  It's as simple as this: if you stand on the bag in that scenario, you're going to get taken out by the runner!  rules or no rules, that's how the game is played.  And I have a very hard time believing that both umps would have missed such a vicious slide that sent a player to the hospital.  the students I spoke with from superior said he went in hard and all of that, I'm not and never have argued that point.  but your picture is also the end of that slide after spurney has hit cummings, and in that situation the legs are going to fly up.  I mean get serious right now, go try to slide in that position right now!  it's not possible to slide with cleats that high, not both of them anyway, as your picture portrays.  

It's not worth arguing on here about what happened, it's done and over with and I wasn't even there to see it so take all my credibility away if you so please, but there's much bigger and better things to be talking about right now!  Superior players and fans will always believe it was point's fault...and point will always see it the other way.  having not been there to witness it, I can only go off of what I hear and the facts of the game, and the fact that sam did not get called for an illegal slide only solidifies my obvious view that it was a very hard...LEGAL...slide and it's up to cummings to get out of the way!  This is the WIAC people not junior high school, guys are going to come in hard and make contact it's the nature of the sport...throwing a tantrum after that happens is completely unnecessary and embarrassing.  that's my peace on this topic, I've said more than I needed to on it so far.  

...I digress...

the conference has turned into what many of us had mentioned earlier this spring, a very very tight and interesting finish with no clear front runner.  although I did think UWO would have separated themselves from the rest by now, I also thought the rest would be a crap shoot.  As BP mentioned it makes for some really intense and great late season games.  I would agree that zielke will for sure see some substantial innings today.  Barry will most likely throw, and then who knows...

It seems that the WIAC always comes down to the last weekend to decide the top 1-3, but this has got to be right up there with one of the most exciting and best finishes the league has seen in years!  It's great to have lax and platteville and stout all competing at the same time, instead of only one of them each year as it has been in the past.  Love it, wish I was still playing this year!!!

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 29, 2009, 01:06:44 PM
Quote from: Dagger on April 29, 2009, 01:02:23 PM
Quote from: biggio34 on April 29, 2009, 12:30:43 PM
As for the rules, you cannot break up a double play. You must take a strait line into the bag, not travel over the bag, or do anything to impede or intentionally distract the defensive player. Both the runner and the batter should be called out. It is the plate umpires responsibility to make the call on the person sliding.

thanks for the rules update, just in case I didn't play the middle infield for four years....


I am sensing your sarcasm... thanks for bringing the discussion back to a fourth-grade level :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2009, 01:43:15 PM
I REALLY wish Point had the capability to do live stats like Oshkosh and Stout!!!!  It would be really nice to be able to follow the action today!!! >:(
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 29, 2009, 01:44:32 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 29, 2009, 01:43:15 PM
I REALLY wish Point had the capability to do live stats like Oshkosh and Stout!!!!  It would be really nice to be able to follow the action today!!! >:(

I know the feeling. I have no personal interest in the games other than as a fan, but would love to be able to keeep up. If anyone has updates, please post them.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 29, 2009, 01:49:52 PM
yeah, I would think the wiac would be interested in maintaining availability of the stats to everyone.  maybe the conference could invest a couple dollars to catch up all the universities.  Edgewood had amazing live stats during the point game...it had all the guys pictures up and everything, pretty impressive stuff and really really nice for the out of town fans! 

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on April 29, 2009, 01:57:07 PM
Dagger, sarcasm noted. Having no connection to either program is a card I hold in this little game of poker. NO WHERE would I not agree with you that the game should be played the right way which means break up the double play, run the catcher if he's in the way etc...it's the way it should be played! Having seen it, I will tell you the intent was NOT in breaking up 2. The flying jump kick has an entirely different meaning. Your loyalty to the program is good to see, but you can's disagree with the fact that Point is involved with this too often. As is all the WIAC and until Karner acts firmly, it will continue. Bloom is a great coach and needs to act on his own to remedy this problem internally, so this doesn't happen again.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2009, 02:02:00 PM
Suspended Game
Whitewater 7
Platteville 5

FINAL
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 29, 2009, 02:26:20 PM
I agree that it happens too much and it puts an unpleasant blemish on the WIAC as a conference, but this is only points second one, they just happened back to back!  UWO and WW have had just as many, so it's a conference wide problem.  I guess I will have to concede defeat on this one and accept the fact that he went in with something other than breaking up the double play on his mind.  I still think cummings should have gotten out of the way though :)

To be honest I think that the whole league brawl thing is fueled by the coaches in an indirect way.  Most of the coaches in the WIAC DO NOT like each other.  And that's too bad, because as you look to other conferences its not like it is here.  My brother coaches in another conference and all their teams coaches get along real well and provide information to each other come postseason on opponents they may have faced and always chat before and after games.  I don't think that would ever happen in the WIAC, too many egos to try and help out your own league.  Now with that said I think most of the coaches in the WIAC are awesome guys, and seperately I would love to play for each one of them, but for some reason they just don't get along with each other!  That hate is picked up on by the players, and in some instances isn't hard to pick up on, and it gets transferred to the field.  The trash talking that is allowed by all coaches is just embarrassing to be honest and that goes for the whole league (some teams are better than others).  I was never much of a talker period, but if you're gonna be loud and obnoxious, which I think you need guys to be like that sometimes, be respectful to the other team and the game itself.  It's like some of the guys that don't play need the attention from outside the dugout and that's how they get it.  People talking about how funny it was after the game doesn't help, and until coaches really lay down some rules it will never change.  You can have heated rivalries, but let's have them be heated for the right reasons!  No need to trash talk and degrade anyone, get fired up because you're both good teams fighting for the top spot. 

For the record book I hope Cummings heals quickly and has no other problems from the incident.

Cant wait for the results of todays action!
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Post by: cubs on April 29, 2009, 02:47:43 PM
Point 3
UWO 0

Top 6th

Both coaches decide to bring back guys on short rest, as Williams and Kannenberg get the starting nods.

Point scores two runs in the 5th to gain a little breathing room.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: UWP SID on April 29, 2009, 03:36:25 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 29, 2009, 01:43:15 PM
I REALLY wish Point had the capability to do live stats like Oshkosh and Stout!!!!  It would be really nice to be able to follow the action today!!! >:(

The issue isn't with the stats program, but with having wireless access out at the baseball fields. Not too many of our pressboxes have that right now, although we're getting there. UWP will have live stats this weekend, thanks to a Sprint wireless card. Hmm, I wonder if I mention Sprint on here, I can get a reduced rate. :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2009, 03:44:37 PM
Quote from: UWP SID on April 29, 2009, 03:36:25 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 29, 2009, 01:43:15 PM
I REALLY wish Point had the capability to do live stats like Oshkosh and Stout!!!!  It would be really nice to be able to follow the action today!!! >:(
The issue isn't with the stats program, but with having wireless access out at the baseball fields. Not too many of our pressboxes have that right now, although we're getting there. UWP will have live stats this weekend, thanks to a Sprint wireless card. Hmm, I wonder if I mention Sprint on here, if I can get a reduced rate. :)
That's awesome!!!!  At least we'll be able to keep tabs on the Point-Platteville games which are sure to have Conference Tournament implications.  Too bad the Stout/LAX and UWO/SUP games weren't at Oshkosh and Menominee this weekend.   Those of us unable to attend would be able to catch all the games otherwise.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: UWBadgers on April 29, 2009, 03:53:29 PM
Cubs, where are you getting your UWO/Point updates?
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Post by: cubs on April 29, 2009, 03:56:56 PM
Point 11
UWO 0

FINAL (8 innings)

Point opens things up with a four spot in the 6th inning.....

Freshman Brandon Lenz came in to relieve Kannenberg.....
Westphal relieves Lenz and strikes out three of the four batters he faces....
Buchkowski finishes the game on the mound for UWO.

Williams with the CG victory....

Spurney not in the line-up Game #1.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2009, 03:58:56 PM
Quote from: UWBadgers on April 29, 2009, 03:53:29 PM
Cubs, where are you getting your UWO/Point updates?
Buddy texting me from the field.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: UWBadgers on April 29, 2009, 04:01:04 PM
Any idea if any radio stations are there?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2009, 04:04:56 PM
Not that I know of.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2009, 04:23:03 PM
Game #1 Finals
Stout 8
Superior 7

Point 11
Oshksoh 0 (8 inn.)

Platteville 3
Whitewater 2

Game #2 Finals
Point 2
Oshkosh 0

Stout 5
Superior 1

Whitewater 5
Platteville 3
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 29, 2009, 06:57:37 PM
does anyone have a point uwo update.  I see points site says 2-0 in the 7th but who's up?  You never know with that site, as sometimes they list losses as 5-3...wtf...if you lost its 3-5...anyway just wondering if anyone had an update :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 29, 2009, 07:01:10 PM
It was 2-0 Point top of the 9th with Zielke on the hill.  Berry pitched awesome today and Richter had a 2 run HR in the 6th or 7th.  Unfortunately had to get home by 5:30 so couldn't see the end.  Oshkosh going 17 innings without a run would be unreal.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2009, 07:09:10 PM
Williams and Berry absolutely DOMINATED the UWO hitters today.....  UWO was only able to muster eight hits in 17 innings, and did not score a run.  A very good pitching performance from Ryan Demmin is about the only positive for the Titans today.

Kudos to the Pointer pitchers and defense today!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 29, 2009, 07:13:40 PM
let the wacky wiac weekend begin!  wow is all I have to say right now...wow!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2009, 08:11:22 PM
Standings (Through 4/29/09)
Point 13-7
Whitewater 15-9
Oshkosh 12-8
La Crosse 9-11
Platteville 9-11
Stout 9-11
Superior 5-15

So what do these mean heading into the weekend?

1.  Whitewater needs Point to lose at least two games to Platteville and Oshkosh to lose one to Superior.  If that happens, they hold the tie-breaker in a three-way tie, and would be the #1 seed and host.  If it's a two-way tie with Point, they win the tie-breaker, but lose the tie-breaker in a two-way tie with Oshkosh.

2.  Oshkosh needs to win all four and hope for Platteville and Point to split, for them to get the #1 seed and host.  (In essence, they need to win two more games than Point this weekend, since they lose the tie-breaker with Point.)  If they win three out of four at Superior this weekend, the worst they can do is a #2 seed, which as we all know holds a little more importance this year.

3.  Point needs to win three out of four from Platteville and they are the #1 seed and host.

4.  If either Stout or La Crosse can take three out of four from the other this weekend, they are likely the #4 seed and make the WIAC Tournament, unless of course Platteville would sweep Point this weekend.  Both Stout and La Crosse hold the tie-breaker over Platteville by taking three out of four from the Pioneers earlier in the season.  If La Crosse and Stout split, and Platteville splits with Point, the edge CLEARLY goes to Stout, as I believe it resorts back to teams that finished ahead of them due to the fact that head-to-head both La Crosse and Stout would be 5-3, whereas Platteville would be 2-6.  La Crosse and Stout both went 2-2 against Whitewater, however La Crosse went 0-4 against both Oshkosh and Point, while Stout hold victories over both schools.

I hope I got everything correct on this, but feel free to correct me or add to it.  Regardless, it's nice to see six of the seven teams alive for a berth in the WIAC Tournament this year.  It makes for some exciting baseball the last weekend of the season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2009, 08:33:51 PM
Couple of extra tidbits I came across:

1.  Spurney did not play in either game of the DH today against Oshkosh.  Was he suspended, or did Coach Bloom just choose to sit him.

2.  Petrasko has not played at all for Whitewater over the past four games.  Was he injured, or is Coach Vodenlich just choosing to "sit" him?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 29, 2009, 08:57:40 PM
Spurney received a 3 game suspension from the commissioner from Superior game.  I was told it was BS but that of course is from UWSP fans.  I was not there to witness it so I can say nothing on it.  It will be huge to have him after game 1 on Sat because Surman is starting to play like Surman again and Spurney can DH.  DH was a huge hole for Point today having Bloom and Iverson in there instead of Spurney or Surman.  As I've said before Bloom should not be seeing the field for any reason the rest of the year and I was VERY surprised to see him in there today game 1 especially with the magnitude of the game.  I was also surprised to see that Coach Bloom would not use Schoch as a DH since he's been far more productive than either guy he used today.  Either way I am in shock over how well Point has played the past three weeks as I was one of the first to write them off.  I almost feel guilty still going to the games but I have always been there win or lose even before the success of the past few years.  Does anyone think there's any chance that Point can get a regional bid if they win the regular season title but not the conference title?  If Point completes the tough task in front of them this weekend and gets to host will they host it at Witter Field or at their home field?  Do they have a choice?  I would guess if they could they would have it at Witter since they have lights and their field has brought a lot of success to us.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 29, 2009, 09:03:24 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 29, 2009, 08:33:51 PM

2.  Petrasko has not played at all for Whitewater over the past four games.  Was he injured, or is Coach Vodenlich just choosing to "sit" him?

Injury, he's out for the the season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 29, 2009, 09:48:48 PM
Let me be the first to congratulate Whitewater on another tremendous regular season.  You guys battled through adversity from before the season all the way through and are still going to make the tourney.  I can't tell you how pissed I would be to find out that 8 of my teammates weren't playing especially after the success you guys had last year and you probably would've made the world series again this year with Munn, Donovan's, Stine, and a healthy Petrasko.  I know success is taken for granted some times but you guys overcame a lot this year. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 29, 2009, 09:52:48 PM
If your a Pointer fan who do you consider your ace right now or better yet who would you want on the hill in a must win game?  Here is how I'm ranking their staff from here on out.
1.  Williams  2. Delorit  3.  Berry  4.  Koback  5. Nix  I have my fingers crossed that I'm wrong and that Nix will throw a gem on Saturday and get the first game win.  Williams has looked good recently and Berry looked like the Berry Pointer fans were expecting all year against Oshkosh.  I just hope Point plays with a sense of urgency this weekend because Platteville has a few tough lefties and Point really struggles against lefties especially Arch.  I am taking the trip down there with a newborn so please guys let's not get any suspensions by going to strip joints, drinking in the room, or inviting ho's to the room.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 29, 2009, 10:00:40 PM
Can somebody help me make sense of the WIAC this year? I just want one team to be consistent. One day a team is unbeatable and the next they are terrible.

I am speechless (which is tough for me to be) about the WIAC right now.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 30, 2009, 10:06:13 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 29, 2009, 09:48:48 PM
Let me be the first to congratulate Whitewater on another tremendous regular season.  You guys battled through adversity from before the season all the way through and are still going to make the tourney.  I can't tell you how pissed I would be to find out that 8 of my teammates weren't playing especially after the success you guys had last year and you probably would've made the world series again this year with Munn, Donovan's, Stine, and a healthy Petrasko.  I know success is taken for granted some times but you guys overcame a lot this year. 

Thanks, it's nice of you to say that.  It's been a difficult season in many respects but the team has hung together and we'll still be playing next week.   The loss of players has hurt but you have to play with the guys you have and move forward.  There have been bumps in the road but for the most part we've done that.

I didn't mention it yesterday because the poster asked specifically about Petrasko but we've also lost Kenseth, our starting shortstop, for the remainder of the season due to an injury.   So it goes.  It's just been one of those years.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 30, 2009, 10:12:28 AM
Sure seems like there have been more injuries to key players this year than in the past....  Without looking through all the boxscores, guys like Petrasko, Kenseth, Greg Gibson, and Brad Demmin have all missed significant time this year.  Hope this is just a "fluke" year and doesn't become the norm in terms of injuries.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 30, 2009, 10:20:23 AM
Point also lost Kakwitch who could've done some special things this year if not injured.  He played in the beginning of the year and struggled but from what I've heard he was trying to play through a shoulder injury.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on April 30, 2009, 10:21:09 AM
WHO WANTS TO WIN THIS LEAGUE????
All three top teams have had a chance to run away and hide with it, seems nobody can put a consistent run together to put this away. What should make the WIAC and Regional interesting is the fact that NONE of them are very deep on the mound. All have a legit top 2 but the rest are inconsistent. Should be a good tourney. If Point gets home field it's OVER! They don't lose tourney's at Witter.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 30, 2009, 10:28:19 AM
Well if Point goes and wins three out of four this weekend in Platteville, it's all their's!!! 

I believe the WIAC Tournamnet would be at University Field however, and not Witter Field.  The whole point of moving it was to get it "on-campus."
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 30, 2009, 10:30:07 AM
Has anyone been following Greg Reinhard's stats (http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Greg%20Reinhard&pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=489234) this year in AAA? Amazing! Now that Samardzija is up with the big club, the relief pitcher line to Chicago may start behind Reinhard, who could be this year's Kevin Hart for the Cubs. Add Reinhard to JZ, Taschner and Wash, and we have about 1/3 of an MLB-quality staff from the WIAC.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on April 30, 2009, 10:34:01 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 29, 2009, 10:00:40 PM
Can somebody help me make sense of the WIAC this year? I just want one team to be consistent. One day a team is unbeatable and the next they are terrible.

I am speechless (which is tough for me to be) about the WIAC right now.

Sorry to say, but that's just how the WIAC is.  Anybody can beat anybody on any given day.  It's how the season is laid out, four 9 inning double headers in one weekend can sometimes really screw a team up.  I mean think about it, thats a s%&* ton of baseball over the course of two days, and then throw in a double header in the middle of the week, sometimes it gets to be too much for some guys.

As far as yesterday goes, I can say there is a better day to be a pointer.  They came out and showed that they do have the best pitching in the conference and that they can hit the ball a little bit too.  Shutting out a team twice that is hitting .340 as a team is pretty awesome.  Given the past success Point has had against Platteville who doesn't have much different of a team as last year, I can't see them losing more than one game down there.  BUT...with the way this year has gone so far you just never know. 

About Point possibly hosting the tourney at Witter field if they're the number 1 seed, I don't think it will happen, and I don't think the commissioner would allow it.  Playing at Witter has been a success for the pointers, but you're not going to turn down the opportunity to host the tournament at your home park..i don't think.  But, lets just say they did host it at Witter...how bad would that burn in the other coaches sides who absolutely hated the fact that it was at Witter and thought that is the only reason Point won the tournament 4 years in a row, because they were supposedly just like home games for us.  It's funny how the whole just like home games theory didn't work for Oshkosh when they hosted regionals, and they go 2 and out.  Thats just comical when you think about it. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 30, 2009, 11:46:30 AM
Quote from: OshDude on April 30, 2009, 10:30:07 AM
Has anyone been following Greg Reinhard's stats (http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Greg%20Reinhard&pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=489234) this year in AAA? Amazing! Now that Samardzija is up with the big club, the relief pitcher line to Chicago may start behind Reinhard, who could be this year's Kevin Hart for the Cubs. Add Reinhard to JZ, Taschner and Wash, and we have about 1/3 of an MLB-quality staff from the WIAC.

yeah I have been watching his numbers all season thus far, if he can maintain what he has going you'd have to think he's a prime candidate for a mid-season "shake up the bullpen" move!  I think he's better than samardzja anyway...I think he will at least debut this year, if not stick around for a while! 

as for the witter field site, I don't think point would choose to go their if their own field was an option...although they havn't played well there this year compared to years past.  We couldn't host regionals because of the lack of lights and cages, not because we would rather play in rapids.  Plus the playing surface at witter is not very nice, and as bad as university field is I would rather play there! 

on a side note....
The really funny part for me when we won 4 straight tourneys at witter was all the talk about it being a small ball park and we were winning on cheap homeruns!  I heard that after almost every game from several people.  My first thoughts were always, "does the other team bat in a different stadium?"  I mean how foolish.  the fences don't move in when we would bat, we just had the guys that could lift a ball and drive it out from time to time.  Not to mention that the field was no smaller than WW where the wind blows straight out with hurricane force winds most of the time, on top of the fact that it's a small yard but you never hear anything about their park being too small.  Oh well...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on April 30, 2009, 12:14:53 PM
You're correct in saying Witter's playing surface is rough. There is a ski-jump at third that you have to play correctly or wear it in the face! I have been there a couple times and never did I see the fence magiclly move back when Point wasn't hitting. The environment is great and the support is great, overall a good place to host any tournament.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 30, 2009, 12:15:23 PM
I'll go ahead and lay down my first shot at an All WIAC Team, but as we all know there are always surprises when it finally comes out for real.  I'm not sold on all of these so what are your thoughts?  Seems like a pretty down year this year when you look at offensive production numbers for guys around the league.

Berger UWO
Fanta LC
Richter UWSP
Jacobson PLT
Giebel ST
Archambeau UWSP
sebasta UWO
O'Connell ST
Cummings SUP
Spurney UWSP
Hiroskey UWO
Olson SUP
Gram LC
Gilbertson ST
Kuhlman WW
Hawkins PLT (I have a hard time doing that with his defense)

Zielke STP
Williams STP
Hooper WW
Dott WW
Saufley SUP

Pitcher of the year: zielke UWSP(most apperances, lowest era, lowest opponents BA....etc)
Player of the year: Berker UWO
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 30, 2009, 01:29:48 PM
As far as your pitchers, I think your list is pretty accurate, except that I think Saufley should be replaced by either Kannenberg or Lange.  Lange leads the WIAC in innings pitched, and is 2nd in strikeouts.  Kannenberg on the other hand has an ERA over a half run better than both of them, and is tied for third in the WIAC in wins.

As far as the Pitcher of the Year, Zielke is probably the leading candidate, however I wouldn't be surprised if it was a close vote.  Not because of numbers, but because there are some out there who feel the award should go to a starting pitcher.  (Kind of the same thoughts as the Position Player of the Year not going to a DH, but to a player that played the field.)

The two pre-season favorites, in Rubens and Dott, are likely out of the running, as pitchers on their own teams are having better seasons, in Hooper and Kannenberg.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 30, 2009, 01:58:16 PM
Position player wise, I think there are a handful of "locks."
-Berger
-Fanta
-Richter
-Jacobson
-Gram
-Giebel

Then the remaining nine spots are up for grabs among about fifteen guys:
-Fadness
-Fosler
-Hiroskey
-Sebesta
-Surman (I would take him over Spurney, despite the lower BA as OB% nearly identical and better power numbers)
-Spurney
-Archambeau
-Stace
-Gilbertson
-O'Connell
-Kuhlman
-Olson
-Cummings
-Kannenberg (Should end up with enough at-bats to be eligible as both a position player and pitcher like Endl was a few years back.)

POY-I think Berger is again a "lock" as he leads the WIAC in batting average, hits, runs, and RBI's, and is near the top in HR's, total bases, and doubles.

**I bolded the nine guys I would place on the 1st Team**
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 30, 2009, 03:16:16 PM
yeah I'm sure the pitcher of the year will be a close vote, and if berger isn't Position POY I will be absolutely shocked!  There's no way, unless he goes 0-the rest of the season and even then he should still get it. 

It's hard, and especially this year with the poor numbers across the board, to pick guys and the final team always throws at least one wrench into things that nobody saw coming.  I can't say that I would disagree with surman making it, the only thing working against him is his low average.  I just look at the numbers of the years past and can't believe the drop off.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 30, 2009, 05:19:51 PM
Number are down because the pitching in the WIAC is the best it's been in the past 15 years.  Everyone's top 4 are dominant.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 30, 2009, 05:59:07 PM
that's pretty bold statement there!  my freshmen year WW's top 4 ALL got drafted(endl, callahan,reinhard and tomasiewicz), and that same year point had reinke, mehne, simonson, and achterberg.  UWO had timm, another draftee...I think that was the strongest the pitching has ever been in any division three conference ever!  I'm sure there were others that year that were very good also.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 30, 2009, 06:51:57 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 30, 2009, 05:19:51 PM
Number are down because the pitching in the WIAC is the best it's been in the past 15 years.  Everyone's top 4 are dominant.
Really?  I would beg to differ....  Outside of Dott, I don't know of another kid that is in a WIAC Teams Top Four that will go on and pitch at the next level.  Heck there isn't even a clear cut Pitcher of the Year this year.

Just so you realize how long 15 years is, just 10 years ago, all of these guys were pitchers toeing the rubber in the WIAC:
-Jack Taschner (2nd Round Draft Pick and Current Philedelphia Phillies reliever)
-Kevin Grater (20th Round Draft Pick-Brewers)
-Craig Glysch (35th Round Draft Pick-Angels)
-Andy Elskamp (36th Round Draft Pick-Phillies)
-Chris Simonson (43rd Round Draft Pick-Brewers)

Find me five future draft picks that are pitching in the WIAC today......
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 30, 2009, 06:53:22 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 30, 2009, 05:19:51 PM
Number are down because the pitching in the WIAC is the best it's been in the past 15 years.  Everyone's top 4 are dominant.

Sarcastic?? I hope you were at least. i would say its near the bottom 5 years of those 15
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 30, 2009, 07:22:59 PM
You caught on I wasn't close to being serious.  This is the worst pitching I've seen in the WIAC in the past 15 years.  After each teams top 1 or 2 guys it's almost comparable to high school level pitching.  I remember when Whitewater had Reinhard I was just hoping his elbow would snap because I knew there was no way we were going to win with him on the hill.  Hopefully some teams in the WIAC will get some quality transfers or recruits for next year or the commissioner will have to have teams start their DH at 8:00 A.M. just to get 2 games in.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 30, 2009, 08:53:05 PM
Marian and UW-Whitewater split tongiht.  That was a regional loss UWW didn't need right now.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: UWP SID on April 30, 2009, 10:26:49 PM
I should mention that Jimmy Flannery and Mike Baker will be calling the first games both Saturday and Sunday for student station WSUP, Platteville. You can listen to those here: http://www.uwplatt.edu/athletics/stream/index.html. We'll have live stats for all four games this weekend vs. UW-Stevens Point at http://www.uwplatt.edu/athletics/baseball/livestats/xlive.htm


Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on May 01, 2009, 10:46:05 AM
Here are my first team All-WIAC selections: It's tough to do it on the stats that are on the WIAC site right now, because the All-WIAC team is based on conference games only stats.

*Blake Berger, OSH..........  .391*
Jay Fanta, LC..............  .372
Jason Fosler, OSH..........  .371
Jeremy Richter, STP........  .366
Jason Jacobson, PLT........  .349
Brian Giebel, ST...........  .344
Storm Gram, LC.............  .342
Ryan Stace, ST.............  .337
Brock Wetenkamp, OSH.......  .337
Brad Archambeau, STP.......  .315
Kyle Cummings, STP.........  .356
Ben Kuhlmann, WW...........  .326 
Ben Sebesta, OSH...........  .333
Nolan Fadness, OSH.........  .331
Brandon O'Connell, ST......  .328
Sam Spurney, STP...........  .310


*Jeff Zielke, STP...........  2.19*
Jason Hooper, WW...........  2.86   
Scott Williams, STP........  2.74   
Aaron Dott, WW.............  3.26
Kyle Kannenberg, OSH.......  3.48

*Denotes pitcher & player of the year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 01, 2009, 11:06:13 AM
Quote from: Brewers20 on May 01, 2009, 10:46:05 AM
Here are my first team All-WIAC selections: It's tough to do it on the stats that are on the WIAC site right now, because the All-WIAC team is based on conference games only stats.

*Blake Berger, OSH..........  .391*
Jay Fanta, LC..............  .372
Jason Fosler, OSH..........  .371
Jeremy Richter, STP........  .366
Jason Jacobson, PLT........  .349
Brian Giebel, ST...........  .344
Storm Gram, LC.............  .342
Ryan Stace, ST.............  .337
Brock Wetenkamp, OSH.......  .337
Brad Archambeau, STP.......  .315
Kyle Cummings, STP.........  .356
Ben Kuhlmann, WW...........  .326 
Ben Sebesta, OSH...........  .333
Nolan Fadness, OSH.........  .331
Brandon O'Connell, ST......  .328
Sam Spurney, STP...........  .310


*Jeff Zielke, STP...........  2.19*
Jason Hooper, WW...........  2.86   
Scott Williams, STP........  2.74   
Aaron Dott, WW.............  3.26
Kyle Kannenberg, OSH.......  3.48

*Denotes pitcher & player of the year.

Here are the conference only stats, just have to dig a little deeper. May or may not want to change your team.

http://www.wiacsports.com/baseball/HTML/lgconf.htm#leagp.mlb

WIAC player of the year could be Jeremy Richter too. Ahead of Berger in avg, hr, slug

.410avg, 8 hrs, .846slug
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 01, 2009, 11:14:17 AM
Quote from: Just Bill on April 30, 2009, 08:53:05 PM
Marian and UW-Whitewater split tongiht.  That was a regional loss UWW didn't need right now.

That loss could be a dagger in the heart of Warhawk faithful.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 01, 2009, 11:38:58 AM
Quote from: BaseballFan on May 01, 2009, 11:06:13 AM
WIAC player of the year could be Jeremy Richter too. Ahead of Berger in avg, hr, slug

.410avg, 8 hrs, .846slug
Good point!!!  Berger is ahead of him Runs, RBI's, and doubles, so depending on how big of a weekend each of them have, the Position Player of the Year could be decided this Saturday and Sunday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on May 01, 2009, 12:30:57 PM
I don't think kyle cummings will have enough at bats to qualify this year...depends on how many times he walks this weekend! he needs 16(plus/minus a couple) at bats I believe to have the 2.5 a game requirement.  good point on richter though, given points success and the loss of their whole offense last year, richter may be a better choice for those reasons (having to fill some huge holes) if their numbers are similar.  It's almost impossible though to say who's more important to their team this year, as point and UWO don't have huge numbers from a lot of guys like they have had in the past, richter had to fill in and pick up a young team and uwo lost demin so berger has carried the bulk of the load there also...they are very similar when you really look at everything.  because of points success this year (if they win conference) i think richter will get the nod, and berger if uwo takes the title.

whitewater has no shot at an at large bid at this point!  They will need to win the tourney to see regional action this year...but as was noted already, what an amazing season for them given what they were dealt!  shows the resiliency and toughness of that program.  They finished where I thought they would (if things play out like they're supposed to  :)  )  but they put themselves in a position to take another title.  Just too many KEY injuries and the loss of major contributors of past seasons hurt them.  They surprised a lot of people and should be very happy with what they accomplished this year...I don't know that I would want to play them in conference tourny!  they're still a tough squad and i wouldn't be shocked if they took the auto bid. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on May 01, 2009, 12:32:47 PM
cummings at bats are for the season though, so I don't know what his conf. at bat totals look like.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 01, 2009, 11:19:16 PM
I noticed on Platteville's site is states, "It's a great day to be a pioneer."  Let's hope this weekend, "It's a great weekend to be a Pointer."  For some reason which I don't know why I believe if Point wins the regular season title and at least makes the WIAC title game they will get an at large.  I don't know that Point winning the regular season title will help them that much seeing their last how many titles they've won they haven't been regular season champs at all.  I just seems Point plays better with their backs against the wall.  Call me foolish but I think Richter is hands down the player of the year at this point.  He has made such an immediate impact for Point and who knows where they would be without him.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 02, 2009, 09:43:10 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 01, 2009, 11:19:16 PM
Call me foolish but I think Richter is hands down the player of the year at this point.  He has made such an immediate impact for Point and who knows where they would be without him.
Hands Down?  I don't think I would go that far....  You could use the same argument for Berger since the loss of Demmin for UWO.  Like I said earlier, I think a lot of it will come down to what kind of numbers each of them put up this weekend, and if the numbers are close, it will likely go to the player whose team wins the Regular Season Title.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: brewcrew2008 on May 02, 2009, 04:17:00 PM
Point starts out the day with a 10-1 victory, platteville walked 12 batters and used 8 pitchers total, interesting considering it's the first of 4 games.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 02, 2009, 04:34:42 PM
Anyone know what the deal is with Cody Koback?  He did not play game 1 and is not starting game 2.  He has been playing very well all year so I have a hard time thinking he just wouldn't be in the lineup.  I thought maybe he didn't play game 1 because he was going to start game 2 but Nix is on the hill.  The only thing I can think of is Bloom is nervous about how long Nix can go and he may put Koback in today.  I still think he should be hitting even when he's pitching.  He's way too good of all ballplayer not to be on the field every game.  I have my fingers crossed that he's not injured.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 02, 2009, 05:05:38 PM
Now I see Arch is out of the game early in game 2 and Schoch is at first and Richter went out to CF.  Where is Koback and what is wrong with Arch?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: brewcrew2008 on May 02, 2009, 05:06:33 PM
arch and cummings had a collision in center knocking arch out of the game
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 02, 2009, 05:15:17 PM
Game #1 Finals
Point 10
Platteville 1

Oshkosh 7
Superior 2

La Crosse 4
Stout 3
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 02, 2009, 05:19:40 PM
Thanks for the update.  Anything on Koback and why he wouldn't have gone out to center?  Is Arch seriously injured or just out for remainder of this game?  I think we're in trouble this game especially if Nix stays in much longer.  I just wish Bloom would quit screwing with the order and keep it as follows the rest of the year.

1.  Fritz  SS
2.  Cummings 2B
3.  Richter  1B
4.  Spurney DH
5.  Archambeau RF
6.  Koback  CF
7.  Surman  LF
8.  Rennicke  C
9.  Thomas  3B

That is a potent lineup and for some reason Bloom refuses to use it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 02, 2009, 05:30:58 PM
I did get confirmation that Spurney did indeed receive a three-game suspension for his role in the fight with Superior.  Good thing he is available for Game #2 considering the injury/injuries that Point has sustained today.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 02, 2009, 05:35:20 PM
Man has Nix goon from good to bad in a short period of time.  He's going to cost the Pointers a title with this performance.  Major League prospect stud as a sophomore to a dud as a senior.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 02, 2009, 05:38:27 PM
So is Bloom going to just try and save a few arms in Game #2 knowing if he gets 3 out 4 Point wins the Conference?  If not, you would think he would have already pulled Nix being down 5-0 in the 3rd inning with the bases still loaded and only one out.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 02, 2009, 05:39:31 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 02, 2009, 05:35:20 PM
Man has Nix goon from good to bad in a short period of time.  He's going to cost the Pointers a title with this performance.  Major League prospect stud as a sophomore to a dud as a senior.
No he's not....  Superior leads UWO 7-0 in the Bottom of the 7th inning.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 02, 2009, 05:57:52 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 02, 2009, 05:38:27 PM
So is Bloom going to just try and save a few arms in Game #2 knowing if he gets 3 out 4 Point wins the Conference?  If not, you would think he would have already pulled Nix being down 5-0 in the 3rd inning with the bases still loaded and only one out.
I guess Bloom is throwing in the towel on this one...  The two guys that have relieved Nix have a combined 13 IP this season between the two of them.  Looks like he is playing for the sweep tomorrow, which MAY be harder than expected with Platteville still having Lange ready to start one of the two games.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 02, 2009, 06:20:09 PM
What does Point have to do to still finish in front of Whitewater? 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 02, 2009, 06:20:30 PM
Game #2 Finals
Superior 7
Oshkosh 3
(Danielson over Kuepper)

Platteville 11
Point 1      (7 Ininngs)
(Mack over Nix)

La Crosse 9
Stout 3
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 02, 2009, 06:22:34 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 02, 2009, 06:20:09 PM
What does Point have to do to still finish in front of Whitewater? 
Assuming they go on to lose Game #2 today:

-If they win both tomorrow they still win the WIAC, the #1 seed, and host the conference tournament.

-If they split, and UWO sweeps Superior, they are the #3 seed and UWO hosts.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 02, 2009, 07:17:32 PM
Standings (Through 5/2/09)
Point 14-8
Whitewater 15-9
Oshkosh 13-9
La Crosse 11-11
Platteville 10-12
Stout 9-13
Superior 6-16

So where do things stand going into tomorrow?

1.  Point wins both tomorrow, they are WIAC Regular Season Champions, the #1 seed, and host the Conference Tournament.

2.  Whitewater needs Point to at least split tomorrow, which would give them the Regular Season Championship, the #1 seed, and host the Conference Tournament.

3.  Oshkosh needs to sweep Superior, and have Platteville sweep Point, and they are the Regular Season Champions, the #1 seed, and host the Conference Tournament.

4.  La Crosse needs to only split with Stout tomorrow, to lock up the #4 seed, as they took three out of four from Platteville during the regular season, and hold the tie-breaker.

5.  Platteville needs to sweep Point and hope for Stout to sweep La Crosse to get the #4 seed.

6.  Stout is still mathematically alive!!  They need to sweep La Crosse tomorrow, and have Point at least take one game from Platteville tomorrow, as Stout would win the three way tie, as I believe it resorts back to teams that finished ahead of them.  Due to the fact that head-to-head both La Crosse and Stout would be 5-3, whereas Platteville would be 2-6.  La Crosse and Stout both went 2-2 against Whitewater, however La Crosse went 0-4 against both Oshkosh and Point, while Stout hold victories over both schools.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 02, 2009, 07:41:30 PM
Anyone hear anything yet on why Cody Koback wasn't in the lineup today?  Injury, Suspension, sick?? 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 02, 2009, 08:07:21 PM
Swine flu?? ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 02, 2009, 08:23:42 PM
It's funny you say that and I'm surprised the State of Wisconsin hasn't gone overboard and cancelled all athletic events.  What would you rather have the HIV or Swine Flu?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: brewcrew2008 on May 03, 2009, 01:12:31 PM
i heard cody has a sprained thumb
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 03, 2009, 01:28:49 PM
Thanks for the update.  I have been trying to find out for the past 24 hrs.  That really sucks that Arch and Koback are both out today.  Nothing like gift wrapping Whitewater or Oshkosh the conference title.  Are either of them going to be available for the conference tourney?  If not that really sucks for the conference because I would rather see Platteville in and have a chance to take it rather than Point with a depleted roster.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 03, 2009, 02:33:06 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 03, 2009, 01:28:49 PM
Thanks for the update.  I have been trying to find out for the past 24 hrs.  That really sucks that Arch and Koback are both out today.  Nothing like gift wrapping Whitewater or Oshkosh the conference title.  Are either of them going to be available for the conference tourney?  If not that really sucks for the conference because I would rather see Platteville in and have a chance to take it rather than Point with a depleted roster.
Gift-wrapped?  Like Whitewater and Oshkosh haven't had their fair share of injuries throughout the season.  It just so happens that Point has had a couple injuries this weekend, as opposed to throughout the season like the Titans and Warhawks.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 03, 2009, 02:39:43 PM
Game #1 Finals
Platteville 4
Point 2

-Surman leaves a small village on the bases in his first three AB's (7 LOB.)
-The first two Pioneer runs were unearned off of the Pointers Scott Williams.
-Spurney grounds out to SS, with runners on 2nd and 3rd in the 9th, following a double steal.
-Pioneers still have "ace" Joe Lange in the hole for the final game of the series.

Oshkosh 9
Superior 0

-Demmin goes the distance for UWO

La Crosse ?
Stout ?

??
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 03, 2009, 03:05:14 PM
It appears that Bloom may be being a bit cautious with Archambeau and Koback.

Archambeau pinch-hit in the 8th inning with a runner on first.  He tried to bunt for a hit with two outs, but was unsuccessful.  He has stayed in the game to play 1B, in the bottom half of the 8th inning.

Koback pinch-ran in the 9th inning following a single by Rennicke, but obviously an injured thumb isn't going to be affected much by running.

Wouldn't be surprised to Archmabeau starting Game #2......
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 03, 2009, 04:07:02 PM
Well with the loss in Game #1, Point loses not only the game, but the chance at hosting the WIAC Tournament as well even if they win Game #2.  They could even end up as the #3 seed, unless Superior is able to knock off UWO in Game #2 today. 

Whitewater is looking good to host right now, unless Point also loses Game #2 and Oshkosh wins, which would give UWO hosting rights.

Lange is indeed on the mound to start Game #2 against Kyle Barry. 

Once again however, no Archambeau in the line-up for Point.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 03, 2009, 04:51:05 PM
Way to choke Pointers way to choke!!  The blame can only be placed on Coach Bloom at this point.  If Arch was healthy enough to get in the game in the 8th he should've been playing the entire game.  You can't leave 2 of your top 3 players on the pine.  Even a sprained thumb sounds a little shady for not playing.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan20 on May 03, 2009, 08:30:38 PM
so who won conference?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 03, 2009, 08:40:09 PM
I believe Whitewater, Point, and Oshkosh all finished 15-9.  Oshkosh won the series against Whitewater so I believe they are the 1 seed and Whitewater is the 2 seed since they took the series against Point.  To me it doesn't make sense though.  Point took 3 of 4 against Oshkosh so I don't know how they could be ahead. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on May 03, 2009, 09:04:55 PM
Well I finally made it to some games this weekend, and unfortunately had to witness Point lose the regular season title.  A couple notes from the UWSP UWP games....The 10-0 game on saturday was ugly all the way around for point.  Nix looked like crap, and nobody could get a hit against kyle mack!  it's hard to put into words what it was like, other than to say not good! 

the first game on sunday was just one of those games for the pointers, who were squaring up on every single ball they hit (with a few exceptions).  They just found their way right into the gloves of the pioneers, not much you can do.  Scotty williams looked great on the mound, and deserved a better fate.  UWP found a way to score by hitting a swinging bunt to third which was beat out at first (scored a run) with two outs, and texas leaguer combined with a pointer miscue or two.  Very frustrating to watch point ripping the ball all over the park and not get rewarded at some point for it and to have platteville playing like they did both offensively and defensively and walk away with a W.  It really was just one of those games where you just couldn't get a break.   Spurney ripped his last at bat with a sharp two hopper right, and I mean right at, the shortstop who picked it and threw him out to end the game!  Five feet either way and it's tied...

Delorit also looked great on saturday in game one(to backtrack a little).  Game two barry was on the bump, looked very good also and the bats came alive in the fourth I believe with three consecutive doubles with two outs to go up 2-0.  I left shortly after that, but the boys looked like they were going to take control of the game at that point, and the pioneers could not touch barry.

Shinetime you're a true fan aren't you?  As always staying classy...there was no chocking this weekend...they flat out got beat on saturday game two, to the same team that took 3 of 4 against UWO in UWO mind you, and in game one on sunday were dominating the bats with nothing to show for it.  The defensive side did not cost them anything really and the pitching, other than nix, was very strong!  There was a good team in the pioneer uniforms, and Point just could get it done.   They had a great season considering everything and everyone that was new to the program, or at least new to playing consistently.  They had a great season to finish where they did, and I feel pretty good after this weekend going into the tournament...assuming the bats show up!

The arch and cummings collision was a pretty serious impact, which left arch in a neck brace saturday night with his shoulder and neck swelling up.  I would rather have him for sure healthy for the tournament (which they are guaranteed to be in) then risk the future to get a couple at bats on sunday.  The Point defense had its moments, as it usually does, but overall played pretty sound D all weekend.  It was just a story of no...NO...clutch hits with guys on base.  No joke I think they left over 27 guys on base in the first game on saturday!   A couple big hits here and there and the weekend turns out totally different for the boys, but so goes the game of baseball.

One thing I can say after finally seeing them play, is that scotty williams, joel delorit, and kyle barry (with zielke and lorenz in the late innings) is without doubt the best pitching in the conference, and if the bats wake up do not be surprised to see point walk through the tournament.  Their pitching staff is very capable of shutting teams down, it's more a matter of getting a hit when its needed that will hold them down.  Should be a very interesting conf. tourney this year! 

Good luck to all that find their way there (and in what position 1-4) and Congratulations on making it this far....Go Pointers :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 03, 2009, 09:09:19 PM
1. UWW
2. Point
3. UWO
4. LaCrosse

But the top 3 are considered co-champions

Gotta go by tie-breakers to figure it out
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 03, 2009, 10:16:06 PM
I'll be the first to make predictions but these are based on believing that Arch and Koback will play for Point.

Game 1:  Oshkosh 9  LaCrosse 5  I think Kanny will throw for Oshkosh and Benitz for LaCrosse.  LaCrosse eliminated

Game 2:  Point 2  Whitewater 1  It's going to be very difficult to beat Dott but after Point beat Lange today I think it can happen.  Arch really struggles against lefties so if he's out it shouldn't hurt as much other than his play in the outfield.  I'm hoping Point throws Williams.  I have a feeling Surman is going to hit a 2 run bomb in the top of the 9th and make up for his poor performance this weekend.  I know Whitewater won all 4 at Point but if you were at all 4 like I was there was no doubt who the better team was and that was Point.

Game 3:  Oshkosh 15  Whitewater 3  Demmin will throw for Oshkosh and put an end to Whitewater's tremendous season.  Whitewater has just lost way too much to put enough runs on the board and they will need to as Oshkosh has roughed them up this year.

Game 4:  Oshkosh 5  Point 4  Ruebens over Delorit.

Game 5:  Point 4  Oshkosh 3  Berry over Matson.  Point gets the automatic bid and Oshkosh lucks out and gets an at large.

Let's hear some other predictions.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 04, 2009, 02:32:48 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 03, 2009, 02:39:43 PM
Game #1 Finals
Platteville 4
Point 2

-Surman leaves a small village on the bases in his first three AB's (7 LOB.)
-The first two Pioneer runs were unearned off of the Pointers Scott Williams.
-Spurney grounds out to SS, with runners on 2nd and 3rd in the 9th, following a double steal.
-Pioneers still have "ace" Joe Lange in the hole for the final game of the series.

Oshkosh 9
Superior 0

-Demmin goes the distance for UWO

La Crosse ?
Stout ?

??
Grinnell and Monmouth set a D-III record for combined LOB's in a game the other day ... 43. It went 19 innings, but still.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 04, 2009, 03:00:48 AM
Quote from: BaseballFan on May 03, 2009, 09:09:19 PM
1. UWW
2. Point
3. UWO
4. LaCrosse

But the top 3 are considered co-champions

Gotta go by tie-breakers to figure it out
"Congrats, you won the WIAC regular season. Now go play at 10 a.m. in an elimination game." LOL.

Bystander had it right all along – the Platteville and Superior losses put Oshkosh in a very tough spot.

First year with the new format and it just had to be one of those fluky years when the WIAC is forced to buy three championship knicknacks. How fortunate for the Titans ...

If you're a bubble NCAA team you gotta like being either the #3 or #4 in this format. One loss or a Pool A is a better deal than two losses or a Pool A. Again, that's only if you're a possible NCAA team.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 04, 2009, 08:15:52 AM
Quote from: OshDude on May 04, 2009, 03:00:48 AM
Bystander had it right all along – the Platteville and Superior losses put Oshkosh in a very tough spot.

Hmmm, dude, IMO you're over-dramatizing Oshkosh as the hard luck loser this year.  Each of the top 4 had their moments of brilliance and what appeared to be moments of mediocrity that contributed to the logjam at the top.  Was it simply great balance throughout the conference or mind-blowing inconsistency that marked the season as a whole? Hard to know, but maybe we'll learn more about the quality of the WIAC this year (or lack thereof) once the regionals begin.  Either way, the preseason poll pretty much nailed the tournament seeds:

2009 Preseason Predictions (Voted on by WIAC Sports Information Directors)
                                                     
1. UW-Whitewater               
2. UW-Oshkosh                 
3. UW-Stevens Point               
4. UW-La Crosse                   
         


Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 04, 2009, 08:26:05 AM
Let me first apologize for putting up the wrong tie-breaking scenarios during the past week.... :-[  I was under the impression that in the event of a three-way tie, the head-to-head records of all three were used to break all ties, and not just the first one.  My apologies!!!

Wouldn't you know that the first year of a new set-up and it would be the year where a three-way tie occurs....  Makes a TOUGH road for the #3 (and #4) seed when you have to go 4-0, compared to just 2-1.  Oh well, I guess it's better than not having a chance at all though!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 04, 2009, 09:56:44 AM
cubs,

So the head to head of all three were used to separate WHITEWATER and then the head to head of the Oshkosh and Point series was used to seed them? 

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 04, 2009, 10:05:15 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 04, 2009, 09:56:44 AM
cubs,
So the head to head of all three were used to separate WHITEWATER and then the head to head of the Oshkosh and Point series was used to seed them? 
That is how it was explained to me.....  I understand the reasoning behind it, but at the same time, if you are going to use the three-way tie to break the first, why not break all three that way? :-\ 

Someone is going to be disgruntled no matter how it is broken, so it's pointless to question it I guess. 

Regardless, if I'm Whitewater I am happy with this though, as they get to play a team they beat four times the first game, instead of the one that mercy-ruled them three times.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 04, 2009, 10:12:55 AM
The WIAC is a mess this year. It is either really, really good as teams pound each other or really, really average and teams cannot play consistent. Anybody have thoughts on which of the two it is? I am doing trying to figure out this conference for 2009.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 04, 2009, 10:27:31 AM
I would venture a guess and say that the latter of the two is the more likely senario. 

Thanks, cubs.  I really thought that we would end up the three seed and be playing in Oshkosh. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 04, 2009, 10:39:10 AM
Here's my take on this year's WIAC....

There are combines, showcases, try-outs, etc.. just about everywhere you look these days.  With that said, kids that used to be going to D3 schools, are now getting partial scholarships and playing at some D1 and D2 schools.  Back when I played, those opportunities just weren't there and kids were going to the D3 schools by default.  Now that there are more guys going D1/D2, it waekens the D3 baseball for the most part.  You don't even have that one team with a dominant pitching staff or a team that can just mash the ball.  Look at the team averages this year!  You have only ONE team that batted over .300 this season, and that is against what A LOT of people have called a "down" pitching year. 

At this point, I honestly expect this is finally the year that St. Scholastica makes a trip to Appleton for the World Series.  They have two legit aces, and a decent offensive line-up.  It could even be an all-Minnesota Regional Final, as St. Thomas may be the next best team.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on May 04, 2009, 12:23:42 PM
I'm not sure I buy the bigger schools stealing talent argument, although i agree with it to a certain extent.  Other than brady endl who originally went to minnesota to play, none of the other stud players from the conference in the past were even given looks at the bigger schools!  Nobody wanted reinhard, zimmerman, tomasiewicz, callahan, wiczek, coe, jones, or any other big time player from wiac seasons past.  Mostly because most of them developed while in school.  zimmermann was nothing special when he arrived at point, he just blossomed while there.  Plus besides parkside (d2) only UW-Milwaukee has a baseball team in a higher division in Wisconsin.  Plus the success of the WIAC compared to the other D3 conferences in WI, and the facilities (for the most part) are so far superior to those of the smaller d3 private schools that can offer some "academic" money that a real player wouldn't choose to go there anyway. 

I do feel that the talent level has dropped off significantly this year, but I'm not sure it's anything more than a down year for the wiac.  Look at the rosters this year, there was a huge amount of turnover on many of the rosters, and especially on point and WW.  Young guys, no matter how talented they are, typically are not going to step in and light the world on fire.  They need to ease into the college game, and I believe that next year we will see much better numbers as a whole across the league.  Just for a little comparison...and to vent :)....just last season I finished .357 with 101 total bases, 12 doubles, 9 homeruns, 50 RBIS, and was honorable mention in the conference!  compared to this year that would be in consideration for player of the year!  So numbers are down no doubt, but I think the youth and inexperience of most of the teams was a huge contributor to that fact.   ...and yes I feel better with that off my chest now!  ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 04, 2009, 12:27:14 PM
Quote from: Dagger on May 04, 2009, 12:23:42 PM
I'm not sure I buy the bigger schools stealing talent argument, although i agree with it to a certain extent.  Other than brady endl who originally went to minnesota to play, none of the other stud players from the conference in the past were even given looks at the bigger schools!  Nobody wanted reinhard, zimmerman, tomasiewicz, callahan, wiczek, coe, jones, or any other big time player from wiac seasons past.  Mostly because most of them developed while in school.  zimmermann was nothing special when he arrived at point, he just blossomed while there.  Plus besides parkside (d2) only UW-Milwaukee has a baseball team in a higher division in Wisconsin.  Plus the success of the WIAC compared to the other D3 conferences in WI, and the facilities (for the most part) are so far superior to those of the smaller d3 private schools that can offer some "academic" money that a real player wouldn't choose to go there anyway. 


WOW! A bold statement. You ARE aware that Carthage is a Wisconsin school, right? It is a very small (2000 students) private school, but they have quality facilities, and for the most part, give the WIAC schools a run for their money every time they square off.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on May 04, 2009, 12:48:31 PM
yes I am aware that carthage is in wisconsin which is why I said the WIAC is better than the other "Conferences" in the state and that the facilities are far superior "for the most part"
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 04, 2009, 12:52:26 PM
Quote from: Dagger on May 04, 2009, 12:48:31 PM
yes I am aware that carthage is in wisconsin which is why I said the WIAC is better than the other "Conferences" in the state and that the facilities are far superior "for the most part"

Glad you clarified that, Dagger :) I already had my shirt off and was mapquesting your address while I prepared for the fight :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on May 04, 2009, 01:03:09 PM
haha...I'm not one of the private school bashers, I think carthage is a great program!  But I will never believe and unless something drastic happens, you will never get me to believe, that any conference in wisconsin can match that of the wiac on a yearly basis!  Yes there is bias in there being a wiac alum, but at the same time that is deeply rooted in fact...IMO.  but that's not the point of this thread so we'll just leave it at that for now.  There are other teams around the state that at times have put good teams on the field in years past beside the wiac and carthage...no doubt...but I'm just saying the wiac will outperform those other conferences as a whole year in and year out.  And that conference wide the facilities both practice and game, are better in the WIAC than those of other conferences in the area.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 04, 2009, 01:08:27 PM
Quote from: Dagger on May 04, 2009, 01:03:09 PM
haha...I'm not one of the private school bashers, I think carthage is a great program!  But I will never believe and unless something drastic happens, you will never get me to believe, that any conference in wisconsin can match that of the wiac on a yearly basis!  Yes there is bias in there being a wiac alum, but at the same time that is deeply rooted in fact...IMO.  but that's not the point of this thread so we'll just leave it at that for now.  There are other teams around the state that at times have put good teams on the field in years past beside the wiac and carthage...no doubt...but I'm just saying the wiac will outperform those other conferences as a whole year in and year out.  And that conference wide the facilities both practice and game, are better in the WIAC than those of other conferences in the area.

I agree. The WIAC is ALWAYS three deep on a national level while the CCIW is one or two deep (rarely three) and the NathCon and MWC have a national-level team every few years.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 04, 2009, 01:26:12 PM
Quote from: Dagger on May 04, 2009, 12:23:42 PM
I'm not sure I buy the bigger schools stealing talent argument, although i agree with it to a certain extent.  Other than brady endl who originally went to minnesota to play, none of the other stud players from the conference in the past were even given looks at the bigger schools!  Nobody wanted reinhard, zimmerman, tomasiewicz, callahan, wiczek, coe, jones, or any other big time player from wiac seasons past.  Mostly because most of them developed while in school.  zimmermann was nothing special when he arrived at point, he just blossomed while there.  Plus besides parkside (d2) only UW-Milwaukee has a baseball team in a higher division in Wisconsin.  Plus the success of the WIAC compared to the other D3 conferences in WI, and the facilities (for the most part) are so far superior to those of the smaller d3 private schools that can offer some "academic" money that a real player wouldn't choose to go there anyway. 

I do feel that the talent level has dropped off significantly this year, but I'm not sure it's anything more than a down year for the wiac.  Look at the rosters this year, there was a huge amount of turnover on many of the rosters, and especially on point and WW.  Young guys, no matter how talented they are, typically are not going to step in and light the world on fire.  They need to ease into the college game, and I believe that next year we will see much better numbers as a whole across the league.  Just for a little comparison...and to vent :)....just last season I finished .357 with 101 total bases, 12 doubles, 9 homeruns, 50 RBIS, and was honorable mention in the conference!  compared to this year that would be in consideration for player of the year!  So numbers are down no doubt, but I think the youth and inexperience of most of the teams was a huge contributor to that fact.   ...and yes I feel better with that off my chest now!  ;D
I get what you are saying, but just as a point of reference....

I was watching Iowa and Michigan St. on the Big Ten network last week.  In that series alone, there were three kids starting just from the Fox Valley area.  Iowa's starting pitcher was from Kaukauna, their starting SS was from Green Bay Notre Dame, and Michigan State's starting 2B was from Oshkosh West, who just so happened to go 5x6 with.  Now in the past those are the kids that likely went to either Stevens Point or Oshkosh.  Instead they are going D1, which in my opinion doesn't likely happen 10 years ago.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 04, 2009, 01:37:36 PM
I Completely agree... Most DI schools do not recruit anywhere in Wisconsin north of Milwaukee and D3 schools have produced a few big-leaguers north of Milwaukee (Zimmerman, Washburn, Terry Jorgensen, Taschner, Jimmy Gantner, Gary Varsho, etc). All of those big-leaguers came out of the WIAC.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Shhhhhh on May 04, 2009, 05:38:18 PM
A little birdie told me Ruebens is out for the year and needs Tommy John.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on May 04, 2009, 05:53:29 PM
while we're on the topic of UWO pitchers...which if this is true it doesn't surprise me with the way lechnir abuses his pitchers...how do UWO followers feel about tommy keeping guys in the games as long as he does?  Doesn't it seem a little crazy to allow demin to throw 170 pitches in one game (against piont) and throw kannenberg well into the hundreds on short rest?  It just seems like that would really take a toll on guys arms, which would explain rubens falling apart(physically) at the end of last year, and this year!  I mean I'm just looking for you thoughts on the situation, not trying to question lechnir's decisions...it just seems a little much to me to allow guys to throw that much...I would be pissed if I was a pitcher in that system.  That's disrespectful to the pitcher to do that to him don't you think?  I would hate to have seen what rubens could have accomplished in a more defined role!  Just fishing for some discussion, kind of dead in here today! :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on May 04, 2009, 06:21:38 PM
Lechnir is a legend for good reason, but in the past few years he has changed. How can scouts look at these pitchers and think that they are going to get a healthy product. And yes I know there are numerous pros that have made it under his guidance, but if i'm a scout and I come and watch a kid throw 170 pitches, I surely can't think he's going to last. Got a chance to see Kannenberg on Saturday get lit up and he looked tired, breaking ball flat, fastball with little velocity and hanging around the middle of the plate. Was floored when he started on Sunday and threw a COMPLETE GAME after throwing 4 innings on Sunday. That is madness!! He had to have thrown 200+ pitches in two days. Lechnir is well known for his intesity and want to win but the way his arms keep going down and the personal insults to the kids will head to a boiling point sometime and only two things can happen, he is going to flip out and get in a scrap with a kid or he will have a heart attack in the dugout!
Also I see Vodelich heading in that direction the way he's used Dott this season, it's crazy. You have to think these kids have to be hanging.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 04, 2009, 07:05:18 PM
I'm not going to reply specifically to any post, but I will just say this....  It's easy to question things when you are on the outside and see nothing outside of the actual games that are played.  The amount of work that the UWO pitchers do in the off-season and during the season compared to some other programs is ridiculous.

What I really get a kick out of is the post that ignited this discussion is someone'e first post and it seems they only registered to make that one post.  Wonder what the intent was there?  Someone have an ax to grind or something?  ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on May 04, 2009, 09:49:14 PM
first of all I think uwsp and uww work just as hard, and everyone probably thinks that they outwork the other, but in reality they all end up doing the same amount of work!  I thought UWW was the hardest working team in the nation when I was there, only to go to UWSP and find that it's the same way there, if not harder!  So I find it hard to believe that UWO works harder than the other two programs...I'm sure they work their nuts off, but so does everyone else.  Plus no amount of work will prepare an arm for 170 pitches in one game or 200 over the course of two days, that's just plain stupid to put that work load on a young pitchers arm. 

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 05, 2009, 03:32:13 AM
Quote from: BoBo on May 04, 2009, 08:15:52 AM
Quote from: OshDude on May 04, 2009, 03:00:48 AM
Bystander had it right all along – the Platteville and Superior losses put Oshkosh in a very tough spot.

Hmmm, dude, IMO you're over-dramatizing Oshkosh as the hard luck loser this year. 
LOL. How do you get that out of what I wrote? Whatever, if that's how you read it, that's fine.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on May 05, 2009, 09:25:56 AM
I'm not going to reply specifically to any post, but I will just say this....  It's easy to question things when you are on the outside and see nothing outside of the actual games that are played.  The amount of work that the UWO pitchers do in the off-season and during the season compared to some other programs is ridiculous.

I find it hard to believe that anyone can condition an arm to throw 200 pitches in a weekend. That's not even the worst of it. If there was a game TODAY, I would not be shocked to see Kannenberg run back out there for another 60 or so. The arm needs time to recover, otherwise it will be destroyed. Don't get me wrong there are people that have "rubber arm" and recover very quickly or rarely get soreness. I thought Ruebens fit that description perfectly, but him not being able to pitch in the regional last year and "allegedly" being on the shelf this year leads me to believe it is from overuse.
Again, I will not say that Lechnir is a bad coach, I have more respect for him than you can imagine. BUT kids health is too important to ignore. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ballfan55 on May 05, 2009, 10:43:53 AM
[quote author=cubs link=topic=4163.msg1064360#msg1064360

I was watching Iowa and Michigan St. on the Big Ten network last week.  In that series alone, there were three kids starting just from the Fox Valley area.  Iowa's starting pitcher was from Kaukauna, their starting SS was from Green Bay Notre Dame, and Michigan State's starting 2B was from Oshkosh West, who just so happened to go 5x6 with.  Now in the past those are the kids that likely went to either Stevens Point or Oshkosh.  Instead they are going D1, which in my opinion doesn't likely happen 10 years ago.
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Schreiber, Zeise, and Roberts are great examples of players who left due to the exposure they received with the Midwest Blazers.  There are a good number of players who are being seen and recruited.  Koback may be the exception this year as a player who could have easily gone elsewhere but chose to stay and play D3.

With the rare exception of a Jake Hermsen getting a full ride to Northern Illinois, few of these players are getting everything to be paid for...and the reality is that many may find that d3 and staying in state may be more affordable for them.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on May 05, 2009, 12:49:04 PM
you're always going to have guys leave to go play in other conferences.  That's true no matter where you live.  I just don't think that that fact is contributing to the poor numbers we saw in the WIAC this year!  guys have been leaving to go play at D1 schools for years, it's nothing new.  The youth of this years teams IMO was the reason for the decline in offensive output.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 05, 2009, 01:26:26 PM
Quote from: Dagger on May 05, 2009, 12:49:04 PM
you're always going to have guys leave to go play in other conferences.  That's true no matter where you live.  I just don't think that that fact is contributing to the poor numbers we saw in the WIAC this year!  guys have been leaving to go play at D1 schools for years, it's nothing new.  The youth of this years teams IMO was the reason for the decline in offensive output.
An occasional guy here or there leaving for other conferences?  Sure....  But not five guys in about a 50 or 60 mile radius, going to play D1 college baseball.  Ten years ago those guys were few and far between.  You can't tell me that the talent is that much better now than it was then.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on May 05, 2009, 03:10:47 PM
No, I agree that more players are leaving to play in other leagues...I know of some guys up north that have gone to some more southern D1 conferences to play.  Those larger schools are certainly starting to realize the amount of talent that is found in the state of wisconsin and are expanding their recruiting zones, but I don't think that they take enough players from the WIAC that it makes a difference in the talent level conference wide.  Missing out on 4-5 guys is not a huge deal, and like I mentioned before...most of the real studs of WIAC seasons past were all shunned by the big boys, and often times the highly recruited players go on to be busts in the next level.  So I mean I agree with you that they are starting to maybe take a few more players from our area than they have in the past, but I don't believe it negatively affects the conference talent level.


is there any truth to the random rubens post?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 05, 2009, 08:10:39 PM
From the CUW website, UWW drops 2 to CUW today 4-3 and 6-5. No game details.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: d3baseballnut on May 05, 2009, 09:00:39 PM
Quote from: BoBo on May 05, 2009, 08:10:39 PM
From the CUW website, UWW drops 2 to CUW today 4-3 and 6-5. No game details.

wow....that hurts
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 06, 2009, 12:33:38 PM
UWW has to win it to move on this weekend.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 06, 2009, 01:03:25 PM
 I have a feeling that was already the case.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on May 06, 2009, 03:48:08 PM
yeah, tough losses for sure for WW but I'm not sure they cost them a shot at a pool C...IMO they needed to win the tourney before those games were played.  You never know though, sometimes the committee coughs up a surprise!  Big advantage for WW though having the games in their backyard, and being able to lose one and still be alive...still not a fan of this format, and even with point being a beneficiary of the horrible setup this year, I don't think I ever will be.  It's just stupid to give the 3-4 seed no breathing room.  they played hard all year and deserve to be in the tournament, why start them both off with an 0-2 count!  Just for my educational purposes, is there any other division in any sport that does such a set up?  and if not, did the WIAC ever consider why!?!  the four seed has won  their first game the past couple years I believe, so now the third best team in the conference is out!  stupid...especially considering this year it was a tri-champion.  The difference between the 4 and 3 seed in the WIAC is generally a very noticeable one and the three seed usually can compete nationally without embarrassing the conference, so why boot them out if they slip up one time?  Point would have been eliminated almost every year under this format.  IDK, I just don't like it, dont' think it's fair, and don't think it will stick!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on May 06, 2009, 05:21:16 PM
Quote from: BoBo on May 05, 2009, 08:10:39 PM
From the CUW website, UWW drops 2 to CUW today 4-3 and 6-5. No game details.

Interesting that Sam Petrasko played DH in the first game...Guess that means he can play somewhat but is not well enough to play in the outfield
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 07, 2009, 08:14:25 AM
I heard last night Point will be without Koback, Arch, and Williams.  If this is indeed true, Point will be 2 and out.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanBystander on May 07, 2009, 09:29:51 AM
http://www.wiacsports.com/baseball/2009Bracket.pdf

Take a peek at the bracket & pay particular attention to the "If Necessary" game.  In the footnote, it states that Game #5 (If necessary game) will be played if loser of WW/Point wins game #3 & Game #4. 

Since the footnote doesn't say anything about the possibility of the winner of Game #1 advancing to the championship round, we could then logically interpret this to say that if the winner of Oshkosh/LAX were to advance and eventually beat the winner of WW/Point, then the "If necessary" game wouldn't be necessary and the winner of Osh/LAX would be the champion. 

In a typical double elimination format this would not be true.  However, in this screwed up format, it just might be the case. 

Anyone care to take an educated guess? 

Given that no one on here knew the three way regular season tiebreaker criteria, I'm guessing that our opinions would be speculation.  Anyone with an "in" to the WIAC offices?         
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 07, 2009, 10:07:20 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 07, 2009, 08:14:25 AM
I heard last night Point will be without Koback, Arch, and Williams.  If this is indeed true, Point will be 2 and out.
I wouldn't necessarily say that....  Barry has been DOMINANT his last two starts, and if he throws like that against a Whitewater offense that has been less than spectacular this season, I wouldn't be surprised to see Point come out on top.

What's the story on Williams?  Hadn't heard anything about him being injured, and just like Barry, he has been VERY impressive his last three starts.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 07, 2009, 10:14:28 AM
Quote from: Dagger on May 06, 2009, 03:48:08 PM
Big advantage for WW though having the games in their backyard, and being able to lose one and still be alive...still not a fan of this format, and even with point being a beneficiary of the horrible setup this year, I don't think I ever will be.  It's just stupid to give the 3-4 seed no breathing room.  they played hard all year and deserve to be in the tournament, why start them both off with an 0-2 count!  Just for my educational purposes, is there any other division in any sport that does such a set up?  and if not, did the WIAC ever consider why!?!  the four seed has won  their first game the past couple years I believe, so now the third best team in the conference is out!  stupid...especially considering this year it was a tri-champion.  The difference between the 4 and 3 seed in the WIAC is generally a very noticeable one and the three seed usually can compete nationally without embarrassing the conference, so why boot them out if they slip up one time?  Point would have been eliminated almost every year under this format.  IDK, I just don't like it, dont' think it's fair, and don't think it will stick!
Here's some info I gathered.....

The power's that be, said the Tournament needed to be completed in two days, (due to monetary reasons) with all games taking place on ONE WIAC member's home field.  That right there limited what you could do since there aren't any lights on any WIAC fields at this time.  One of the proposals was to have the #1 and #2 play a three game series, with the winner earning the automatic bid.  The AD's and coaches decided they would rather have the #3 and #4 seeds at least have a chance, however small it may be, so they chose this set-up instead, which fit the parameters that were set by the league.

Could something change in the future?  Probably, but I have a feeling this set-up will be around for a few years at least.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on May 07, 2009, 10:20:05 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 07, 2009, 08:14:25 AM
I heard last night Point will be without Koback, Arch, and Williams.  If this is indeed true, Point will be 2 and out.


Really?  

I just can't quiet figure out the motivation for some of your ridiculous posts on here!  I mean you're this wonderful fan of so many years, yet you never say anything even remotely positive about the team or coach.  if it were up to you, cummings (probably 1st team all conference) would not be playing, williams at the beginning of the year apparently was horrible and shouldn't be in the rotation (top 5 pitcher in the conference)...and so on and so on.  At what point do you just stop posting random remarks with no insight, or factual backing?  

Williams and Koback are both fine (unless you know something that none of their teammates do!),  Arch is not 100% and is a little stiff, but I get the feeling that he's going to be ready to play.  And even without them, I don't think it's as simple as a 2 and out for them.  You still have barry and delorit who are both very capable of shutting teams down, and an offense that is inconsistent yes, but at the same time very capable of blasting any team in the country out of the water.  If the bats show up, the pitching doesn't need to be at its best anyway.  Plus you still have nix, and although he's wildly inconsistent, he's still got filthy stuff and when/if he figures it out on the mound you do not want to be a fan of the opposing team because he will shut you right down!  He will also walk the entire team and give up several runs on occasion...BUT...if he's our number 3 or 4, go find me a better potential matchup in the country with a D3 team that has a 3-4 that is nix's caliber (when he's on).  Even if a team had time to bring their ace back, I still feel pretty good with a tired sore armed ace going up against a fresh nix.  And Come tournament time he (nix) seems to always come up big when you need him to, so don't let him fall off the radar screen just yet.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 07, 2009, 10:29:16 AM
Quote from: TitanBystander on May 07, 2009, 09:29:51 AM
http://www.wiacsports.com/baseball/2009Bracket.pdf

Take a peek at the bracket & pay particular attention to the "If Necessary" game.  In the footnote, it states that Game #5 (If necessary game) will be played if loser of WW/Point wins game #3 & Game #4. 

Since the footnote doesn't say anything about the possibility of the winner of Game #1 advancing to the championship round, we could then logically interpret this to say that if the winner of Oshkosh/LAX were to advance and eventually beat the winner of WW/Point, then the "If necessary" game wouldn't be necessary and the winner of Osh/LAX would be the champion. 

In a typical double elimination format this would not be true.  However, in this screwed up format, it just might be the case. 

Anyone care to take an educated guess? 

Given that no one on here knew the three way regular season tiebreaker criteria, I'm guessing that our opinions would be speculation.  Anyone with an "in" to the WIAC offices?         

I believe the footnote is incorrect or should have another footnote. It should say "Game 5 will be played if the winner of game 2 loses game 4."

My interpretation is that the bracket is double elimination for top 2 seeds and single elimination for bottom 2 seeds. But who knows maybe I am wrong because it is just speculation.

And i knew how the 3 way tie was determined  ;D.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on May 07, 2009, 10:38:02 AM
yeah, my understanding is that it is a double elimination format for the 1/2 seeds and single elimination for the 3/4 seeds.  just think of it as a regular double elimination format being on the second day of the tournament, with UWO and UWL having lost their first games and UWSP and UWW having won theirs.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 07, 2009, 10:46:32 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 07, 2009, 10:14:28 AM
Here's some info I gathered.....

The power's that be, said the Tournament needed to be completed in two days, (due to monetary reasons) with all games taking place on ONE WIAC member's home field.  That right there limited what you could do since there aren't any lights on any WIAC fields at this time.  One of the proposals was to have the #1 and #2 play a three game series, with the winner earning the automatic bid.  The AD's and coaches decided they would rather have the #3 and #4 seeds at least have a chance, however small it may be, so they chose this set-up instead, which fit the parameters that were set by the league.

Could something change in the future?  Probably, but I have a feeling this set-up will be around for a few years at least.

People can scoff at Witter Field's small dimensions and proximity to Point, but at least it let us have a regular double elimination tournament on a single field.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on May 07, 2009, 11:42:28 AM
prucha field is smaller than witter, and with the constant wind that blows out and a shorter outfield fence it plays even smaller! 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: voice on May 07, 2009, 11:49:36 AM
The wind will likely be blowing out on Friday and blowing in on Saturday for what its worth.

One other note:

All WIAC tournament games that include UW-Whitewater will be broadcast live with Gary Douglas and Tom Pattison on KOOL 106.5.  The games will be streamed by clicking onto:
http://www.uwwsports.com/sports/gen/2007/followthewarhawks_09202007.asp
Click onto click here to listen
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 07, 2009, 11:57:44 AM
Quote from: TitanBystander on May 07, 2009, 09:29:51 AM
http://www.wiacsports.com/baseball/2009Bracket.pdf

Take a peek at the bracket & pay particular attention to the "If Necessary" game.  In the footnote, it states that Game #5 (If necessary game) will be played if loser of WW/Point wins game #3 & Game #4. 

Since the footnote doesn't say anything about the possibility of the winner of Game #1 advancing to the championship round, we could then logically interpret this to say that if the winner of Oshkosh/LAX were to advance and eventually beat the winner of WW/Point, then the "If necessary" game wouldn't be necessary and the winner of Osh/LAX would be the champion. 

In a typical double elimination format this would not be true.  However, in this screwed up format, it just might be the case. 

Anyone care to take an educated guess? 

Given that no one on here knew the three way regular season tiebreaker criteria, I'm guessing that our opinions would be speculation.  Anyone with an "in" to the WIAC offices?   
No educated guess here, just the facts..... ;D

IF La Crosse or Oshkosh happen to win their first three games, they are indeed the WIAC Tournament Champion, and receive the automatic bid into the NCAA Tourmnament.  The reasoning is that they will have beaten each of the other three teams involved, if that is indeed how things happen to play out.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 07, 2009, 03:06:26 PM
Midwest Region Overall Record/In-Region Record
1. St. Thomas (Minnesota) 28-9 21-8
2. St. Scholastica 31-4 22-3
3. St. Olaf 25-11 20-8
4. Wisconsin-Stevens Point 27-13 25-12
5. Concordia Chicago 29-13 27-7
6. Wisconsin-Oshkosh 23-15 22-14

Looks like Point would be the only WIAC team with a realistic shot at a Pool C bid if they don't win the Conference Tournament, and even that might be "slim."
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WIACscout on May 07, 2009, 08:43:56 PM
I believe if Oshkosh doesn't win the conference tournament, they will get in because of their name and team history. They didn't play nearly good enough to get any consideration otherwise. If they do make it in, I just can't see them going very far. They lost their ace in Jeremy Reubens for this year and all of next year, along with another solid pitcher in Ryan Kuepper. Kyle Kannenberg has his ups and downs, so the only reliable pitcher they have right now is Ryan Demin. Their hitting just isn't what it was a year ago. With Brad out it hurts the middle of their lineup a lot.

On speculation with Jeremy Reubens, he will need Tommy John surgery and won't be back for next season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 07, 2009, 10:59:09 PM
Is it even worth rehabbing vigorously to try to get back after next season?  I feel bad for Ruebens and agree that the coaching staff over there didn't use him properly.  I remember posting on here last year about how they need to establish a role for him and leave him.  Having him pitch 3 innings in game 1 and than going the distance in the 2nd game just shouldn't happen especially all the time.  I agree with it in tourney play if need be but not the regular season.  Being a pitcher I know I had issues if I had to sit between games for an half an hour and than pitch the next game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2009, 10:34:43 AM
Hmm....  A couple of the "newbie" posters are coming out of the woodwork this week with all kinds of information!!  Where were these guys all season?  ::)

Anyway, if my source is correct, UWO MIGHT be getting a "shot in the arm" today as far as their line-up goes..... We'll see how much it helps, since they are in a "one and done" situation.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on May 08, 2009, 11:13:20 AM
Is there any live web stats or radio coverage of the WIAC tourney anywhere, or is it just the UWW games that are on the radio?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2009, 11:19:27 AM
Quote from: biggio34 on May 08, 2009, 11:13:20 AM
Is there any live web stats or radio coverage of the WIAC tourney anywhere, or is it just the UWW games that are on the radio?
Just the games involving Whitewater unfortunately....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2009, 11:30:24 AM
UWO 4
UWL 2

Top 2nd Inning
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 08, 2009, 11:35:41 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 08, 2009, 11:30:24 AM
UWO 4
UWL 2

Top 2nd Inning

Thanks!!!! Please keep the updates coming as often as you can.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2009, 11:38:33 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 08, 2009, 11:35:41 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 08, 2009, 11:30:24 AM
UWO 4
UWL 2

Top 2nd Inning
Thanks!!!! Please keep the updates coming as often as you can.
Will try to as much as possible, as long as work isn't interfering!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 08, 2009, 11:39:44 AM
On days like today, I assign a project to my students and monitor games all day :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 08, 2009, 11:40:28 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 08, 2009, 11:35:41 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 08, 2009, 11:30:24 AM
UWO 4
UWL 2

Top 2nd Inning

Thanks!!!! Please keep the updates coming as often as you can.

Pitchers duel early
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2009, 12:33:27 PM
Oshkosh 8
La Crosse 7

Top 5th

Demmin doesn't make it out of the 3rd as La Crosse take a 7-4 lead. 

Benitz doesn't make it out of the 4th, as UWO regains the lead 8-7. 

It's now Kannenberg and Walczak on the mound for each team.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on May 08, 2009, 12:48:24 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 08, 2009, 12:33:27 PM
Oshkosh 8
La Crosse 7

Top 5th

Demmin doesn't make it out of the 3rd as La Crosse take a 7-4 lead. 

Benitz doesn't make it out of the 4th, as UWO regains the lead 8-7. 

It's now Kannenberg and Walczak on the mound for each team.
are you getting these updates via text message or what?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2009, 01:05:58 PM
Quote from: Brewers20 on May 08, 2009, 12:48:24 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 08, 2009, 12:33:27 PM
Oshkosh 8
La Crosse 7

Top 5th

Demmin doesn't make it out of the 3rd as La Crosse take a 7-4 lead. 

Benitz doesn't make it out of the 4th, as UWO regains the lead 8-7. 

It's now Kannenberg and Walczak on the mound for each team.
are you getting these updates via text message or what?
Yeah.....  Have a buddy who took off of work to go to the games.

Oshkosh 8
La Crosse 7

Bottom 8th
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 08, 2009, 01:17:34 PM
The WIAC needs OSHKOSH to win if it has any hope of two bids.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on May 08, 2009, 01:18:37 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 08, 2009, 01:05:58 PM
Quote from: Brewers20 on May 08, 2009, 12:48:24 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 08, 2009, 12:33:27 PM
Oshkosh 8
La Crosse 7

Top 5th

Demmin doesn't make it out of the 3rd as La Crosse take a 7-4 lead. 

Benitz doesn't make it out of the 4th, as UWO regains the lead 8-7. 

It's now Kannenberg and Walczak on the mound for each team.
are you getting these updates via text message or what?
Yeah.....  Have a buddy who took off of work to go to the games.

Oshkosh 8
La Crosse 7

Bottom 8th
nice...well, thanks for keeping us updated!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2009, 01:21:37 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 08, 2009, 01:17:34 PM
The WIAC needs OSHKOSH to win if it has any hope of two bids.
I still don't see it....  I think the WIAC is a one-bid league, with the winner of the tournament being the only team to make it to the Regionals.

The only thing that could help is if Point happens to beat Whitewater, and then Oshkosh beats La Crosse, Whitewater, and Point in succession, which would only give Point ONE more in-Region loss due to the quirk in the bracket.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 08, 2009, 01:28:28 PM
I think a Point/Oshkosh final might get both teams in. The regional rankings are clear that the door is open for both to get in.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2009, 01:33:59 PM
Oshkosh clears hurdle #1, defeating La Crosse 8-7.

It looked like it was going to be a high-scoring affair after four innings, with UWO leading 8-7, however Kannenberg and Walczak BOTH quieted the down the opposition's bats.  (Kannenberg went seven scoreless innings, to pick up his third win over La Crosse this season.)

The question now becomes who throws the next game for UWO, as both Demmin and Kannenberg ended up throwing in Game #1.  I would guess probably Mattson, but who knows....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on May 08, 2009, 01:35:43 PM
Anyone have a clue about who is starting for Point and WW.  My guess would be Dott vs. Williams. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2009, 01:41:05 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 08, 2009, 01:28:28 PM
I think a Point/Oshkosh final might get both teams in. The regional rankings are clear that the door is open for both to get in.
If it ended up that way, the quirk in the schedule COULD benefit Point then, since the worst they could do is pick up one loss....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2009, 01:43:57 PM
Quote from: Brewers20 on May 08, 2009, 01:35:43 PM
Anyone have a clue about who is starting for Point and WW.  My guess would be Dott vs. Williams. 
I would say Dott vs Barry myself, but it wouldn't surprise me to see Williams. 

According to Shinetime, Williams is "supposedly hurt" but I didn't see anything about that anywhere else but here, so who knows if it is actually true.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on May 08, 2009, 02:08:02 PM
williams is healthy, but I would guess barry would see the bump for game one.

anyone else having any luck actually getting the game on the internet from UWW's site?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2009, 02:12:05 PM
Quote from: Dagger on May 08, 2009, 02:08:02 PM
williams is healthy, but I would guess barry would see the bump for game one.

anyone else having any luck actually getting the game on the internet from UWW's site?
Nope....  Glad to hear I'm not the only one....

If someone could kindly return the favor and give updates (score, inning, starting pitchers, etc..) to the second game it would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 08, 2009, 02:14:28 PM
Quote from: Dagger on May 08, 2009, 02:08:02 PM
williams is healthy, but I would guess barry would see the bump for game one.

anyone else having any luck actually getting the game on the internet from UWW's site?
Just started for me. Working for you? Super quiet, though. Think the mix is off. That or my sound card is crap. Probably the latter.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2009, 02:14:41 PM
Dott is pitching for WW
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on May 08, 2009, 02:20:39 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2009, 02:14:41 PM
Dott is pitching for WW
it's working for me too, but it wasn't right away.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on May 08, 2009, 02:21:23 PM
I got it up and running now...had to let it load for about 5 minutes
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2009, 02:23:45 PM
Got it here as well.....

Interesting to see that Archambeau is back in the starting line-up as well.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2009, 02:27:27 PM
Point goes up 1-0 after a WW error.  The third out of the inning was a 9-2 play at the plate.  WW coming to bat.

Williams pitching for Point
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 08, 2009, 02:28:18 PM
Everyone else getting full sound? My left speaker is about shot. Not getting much from the right side. Radio Ron, is the patch cord all the way in  :)?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on May 08, 2009, 02:28:23 PM
nice to hear a decent broadcaster...I was expecting some student that had no clue, and would make me not want to listen anyway! haha...I figured arch would be in, he was a little stiff but other than that nothing major.  I don't have the 'in's' like shinetime, but my sources said he was ready to go!  ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on May 08, 2009, 02:29:41 PM
sound is fine here...williams on the bump for point, interesting to see considine behind the dish for the pointers.  playing matchups I suppose as rennicke is a lefty bat.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 08, 2009, 02:29:46 PM
Quote from: Dagger on May 08, 2009, 02:28:23 PM
nice to hear a decent broadcaster...I was expecting some student that had no clue, and would make me not want to listen anyway! haha...I figured arch would be in, he was a little stiff but other than that nothing major.  I don't have the 'in's' like shinetime, but my sources said he was ready to go!  ;D
Yeah, these guys and the CSS guys are my favorite area baseball announcers.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2009, 02:30:05 PM
Yeah....  Looks like Shinetime is 0x3, as Williams, Archmbeau, and Koback are all in the starting line-up.  What a GREAT source!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on May 08, 2009, 02:32:25 PM
these guys sound better than the cardinals fsn crew! haha Seriously though.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2009, 02:45:57 PM
Williams strikeouts the side in the bottom of the first.  Point strands two runners in the top of 2nd.  Score remains 1-0 Point. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2009, 03:01:18 PM
The writing is on the wall for another early exit by a starting pitcher in the WIAC Tournament. 

Dott has already given up four hits and three walks, and trails 4-0 in the third inning with still two runners on and nobody out.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on May 08, 2009, 03:10:52 PM
dott works out of it with no more damage.  To be honest I'm not sure that Vo would pull him even if he didn't get out of it!  He always seemed to try and save the bullpen and his next best arms for the next game.  Not that he concedes defeat because that's certainly not the case, but he does tend to save the big arms for the elimination games if that's what it's looking like their fate will be....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2009, 03:56:41 PM
Kuhlman hits a 3 run home run to tie the game 5-5 after 5 innings.  Williams replaced.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2009, 04:14:40 PM
Tony Wong, Kory Trepainer both  hit solo home runs in the bottom of the sixth with two outs.  7-5 WARHAWKS  Zeilke pitching for Point.

Lorenz (sp?) pitching seventh inning for Point
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: titan2000 on May 08, 2009, 04:22:29 PM
Rumor has it that a number of WW football players just ran on the field and demanded to be cheered for while they delayed the between inning warm-up.   Apparently the school paper came out to take pictures and was denied access to the field.   ::)

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2009, 05:03:43 PM
After a standing ovation for several WARHAWK football players Point pounds the pitching staff and score 5 runsafter two outs to go up 10-7.
 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2009, 05:24:47 PM
Pointers continue to pound WARHAWK relievers go up 12-8 in 9th.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2009, 05:33:18 PM
It's over.  Pointers head to Hooters for dinner.  ;) 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on May 08, 2009, 05:43:20 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2009, 05:33:18 PM
It's over.  Pointers head to Hooters for dinner.  ;) 
Better than having to play two  :P...

I think Oshkosh will win game 2 today, because they'll be rested up. 
Solid day for Pointer hitters, pitching was a little shaky but they got it done, thats what matters.  My guess is Delorit will start the Championship game for Point, especially with the amount of lefties Oshkosh has.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on May 08, 2009, 06:29:53 PM
Vodenlich just got tossed in the second inning of game #2.  WOW.  This could be the last game of the year for Whitewater and their coach won't even be in the dugout.  Good time to get tossed VO.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan20 on May 08, 2009, 07:06:42 PM
another bomb....5-0 WW in the 4th
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 08, 2009, 08:44:46 PM
Quote from: Brewers20 on May 08, 2009, 05:43:20 PM

I think Oshkosh will win game 2 today, because they'll be rested up. 

UWW 12-2, 7 inning mercy - Titans eliminated...UWW and Point tomorrow for the championship.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 08, 2009, 10:40:29 PM
Does anyone have an answer to what happens to UW-Oshkosh come conference tourney time?  I don't know how else to say this other than that they forget how to play baseball or something.  I realize they've had some significant injuries this year but this is becoming a trend at Oshkosh.  Last year they lose 10-0 to Point first game.  When is the last time they won the conference tourney?  I'm just shocked that they lost the way they did to Whitewater who essentially had 1/2 varsity and 1/2 JV on the field.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 08, 2009, 11:09:36 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 08, 2009, 10:40:29 PM
Does anyone have an answer to what happens to UW-Oshkosh come conference tourney time?...When is the last time they won the conference tourney? 

1998
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: d3baseballnut on May 08, 2009, 11:22:14 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 08, 2009, 10:40:29 PM
Does anyone have an answer to what happens to UW-Oshkosh come conference tourney time?  I don't know how else to say this other than that they forget how to play baseball or something.  I realize they've had some significant injuries this year but this is becoming a trend at Oshkosh.  Last year they lose 10-0 to Point first game.  When is the last time they won the conference tourney?  I'm just shocked that they lost the way they did to Whitewater who essentially had 1/2 varsity and 1/2 JV on the field.

Oshkosh will not get a pool C bid. Too many other contenders and Oshkosh just has too many losses.

What do you mean about UWW having 1/2 jv on the field???
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 08, 2009, 11:33:51 PM
Quote from: d3baseballnut on May 08, 2009, 11:22:14 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 08, 2009, 10:40:29 PM
Does anyone have an answer to what happens to UW-Oshkosh come conference tourney time?  I don't know how else to say this other than that they forget how to play baseball or something.  I realize they've had some significant injuries this year but this is becoming a trend at Oshkosh.  Last year they lose 10-0 to Point first game.  When is the last time they won the conference tourney?  I'm just shocked that they lost the way they did to Whitewater who essentially had 1/2 varsity and 1/2 JV on the field.

Oshkosh will not get a pool C bid. Too many other contenders and Oshkosh just has too many losses.

What do you mean about UWW having 1/2 jv on the field???

Tons of UWW injuries in the last few weeks.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 08, 2009, 11:38:54 PM
The announcer today during the Point-Whitewater game was listing guys and it seemed he was rattling injured players off for 3 innings straight:  Stine, Kenseth, Petrasko, Leavitt, and he also added the guys who didn't join or were ineligible.  This is not being sarcastic I truly believe if healthy and everyone on Whitewater's team they would've possibly averaged over 20 runs per game this year as horrible as the pitching was in conference.  Can you imagine this lineup?

1.  Stine  2.  Petrasko 3.  Donovan  4. Zalnis  5.  Munn  6.  Kuhlman  7.  Leavitt  8.  Coe  9.  Kenseth
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on May 09, 2009, 12:29:57 AM
Quote from: Brewers20 on May 08, 2009, 06:29:53 PM
Vodenlich just got tossed in the second inning of game #2.  WOW.  This could be the last game of the year for Whitewater and their coach won't even be in the dugout.  Good time to get tossed VO.

It seems he was trying to get tossed...maybe to fire his team up...he worked pretty hard at it...he finally got tossed when he said something to the effect that the ump has sucked the last ten years  :D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: titan2000 on May 09, 2009, 07:35:32 AM
Quote from: BoBo on May 08, 2009, 11:09:36 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 08, 2009, 10:40:29 PM
Does anyone have an answer to what happens to UW-Oshkosh come conference tourney time?...When is the last time they won the conference tourney? 

1998

Lechniritis?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 09, 2009, 08:42:51 AM
I would have to agree with that.  Oshkosh has the best facilities and certainly has done well with recruiting especially this year.  To me they have a huge advantage with their history of great players but it appears more kids are wanting to go to Point and Whitewater now.  I think it's time for Oshkosh to go in a different direction as much as I know some people love Lechnir.  I personally like him as a coach and his style but I've spoken to hundreds of people about it and I would say the majority don't like playing for him.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 09, 2009, 09:17:52 AM
The Titan's pitching wasn't sharp but for the most part they couldn't get the key hit when they needed it.  Walks and hit batters gave them plenty of baserunners.  With just a single hit they stranded 8 runners on base in the first four innings. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: d3baseballnut on May 09, 2009, 09:26:12 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 09, 2009, 09:17:52 AM
The Titan's pitching wasn't sharp but for the most part they couldn't get the key hit when they needed it.  Walks and hit batters gave them plenty of baserunners.  With just a single hit they stranded 8 runners on base in the first four innings. 

See, preseason, when I predicted whitewater would be a great team, I was assuming Munn and other guys like him would be in the lineup since he was a junior last year. I didnt realize he was ineligible.....is that what happened to him? WHo else was ineligible?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 09, 2009, 09:42:53 AM
What a weird year for UWO. Weird WIAC year in general. I thought, like some others did, that UWO was a considerable favorite at the start. The outcome was disappointing, but I hope that crew is back for another shot next year. And I agree that UWO will not play another game this year.

I kinda hope UWW wins so I can watch two WIAC teams next week. Then again UWW may be in already. I think UWW is in (barely) right now. Pretty confident UWSP is in win or lose. Whaddya think?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 09, 2009, 10:43:42 AM
I'm not a numbers cruncher, so I'll leave the opinions about who is in and who is not to the likes of you, OshDude, and the others who can break things down.

But, if UWW does make it to play another day (or two) or not, I would have to say the coaching staff has absolutely earned their keep this year. With all the injuries and other distractions that changed the landscape of this team, the fact that they won a share of the league title and have made it this far is a testament to the masterful job that's been executed. The overall team depth of this program really has been quite evident, as well. It's been well documented that other teams had similar troubles with injuries, but UWW is still playing while others have been eliminated. Even when it looked like UWW would join that unfortunate club, they always bounced back and righted the ship - they were inconsistant, that's incontrovertible, but they never folded and remained a team to be reckoned with until the end. IMO, that speaks volumes. I won't be stunned if they beat UWSP twice today, just like it wouldn't surprise me to see them be the victim of another mercy rule in game 1.  Whatever happens, happens.   ;)  It's been a fun year...I do hope it will continue a bit longer.   ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: d3baseballnut on May 09, 2009, 10:50:12 AM
Quote from: OshDude on May 09, 2009, 09:42:53 AM
What a weird year for UWO. Weird WIAC year in general. I thought, like some others did, that UWO was a considerable favorite at the start. The outcome was disappointing, but I hope that crew is back for another shot next year. And I agree that UWO will not play another game this year.

I kinda hope UWW wins so I can watch two WIAC teams next week. Then again UWW may be in already. I think UWW is in (barely) right now. Pretty confident UWSP is in win or lose. Whaddya think?

Personally, i dont think UWW is in. They need both games today.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 09, 2009, 11:26:30 AM
I think UWW needs at least 1 win to have a shot but not sure if thats going to be enough
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 09, 2009, 11:47:16 AM
Capt. Obvious here, but the Oshkosh and Augie regionals have to be filled with 12 teams. The NCAA isn't too keen on flights, and there are plenty of those accounted for already. Unless Mideast teams fill in the gaps in Illinois, I think the WIAC, MIAC and CCIW get two teams. Then a flight for a team that can go anywhere (Millsaps/Hendrix) will fill out one of the regions. The wrench: the IIAC could snag a Pool C ahead of the CCIW or WIAC. The MIAC seems like a lock for two bids.

Probably jumping the gun with many games yet to be played, but that's my hunch right now.

EDIT: Forgot about Wash U, so it might come down to IIAC #2 vs. WIAC #2 vs. CCIW #2 for two spots. I still think one of those southern teams flies up here.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on May 09, 2009, 02:28:13 PM
I am unable to receive the WW broadcast over the internet...the only info I have found is on SP website...1-1 in 4th...anybody have any other info?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 09, 2009, 03:27:10 PM
No luck... no livestats that I have found for UWW/UWSP
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 09, 2009, 04:09:34 PM
UWSP-UWW tied in the seventh at 2.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on May 09, 2009, 04:18:38 PM
Whitewater's website says the Warhawks won 3-2
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on May 09, 2009, 04:19:23 PM
Audio through WW now available
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on May 09, 2009, 04:36:42 PM
Point is up 3-0 on a three run homer
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on May 09, 2009, 04:47:00 PM
After 1 1/2 innings...3-1 Stevens Point
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on May 09, 2009, 04:53:03 PM
Pointers lead 4-1 after two on a solo homer to right...apparently if you can get the ball in the air to right field anything can happen
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 09, 2009, 04:57:51 PM
Quote from: OshDude on May 09, 2009, 11:47:16 AM
Capt. Obvious here, but the Oshkosh and Augie regionals have to be filled with 12 teams. The NCAA isn't too keen on flights, and there are plenty of those accounted for already. Unless Mideast teams fill in the gaps in Illinois, I think the WIAC, MIAC and CCIW get two teams. Then a flight for a team that can go anywhere (Millsaps/Hendrix) will fill out one of the regions. The wrench: the IIAC could snag a Pool C ahead of the CCIW or WIAC. The MIAC seems like a lock for two bids.

Probably jumping the gun with many games yet to be played, but that's my hunch right now.

EDIT: Forgot about Wash U, so it might come down to IIAC #2 vs. WIAC #2 vs. CCIW #2 for two spots. I still think one of those southern teams flies up here.

Why not fly both Hendrix and Millsaps to the Midwest and Central?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: RSSmith on May 09, 2009, 05:06:51 PM
Quote from: OshDude on May 09, 2009, 11:47:16 AM
Capt. Obvious here, but the Oshkosh and Augie regionals have to be filled with 12 teams. The NCAA isn't too keen on flights, and there are plenty of those accounted for already. Unless Mideast teams fill in the gaps in Illinois, I think the WIAC, MIAC and CCIW get two teams. Then a flight for a team that can go anywhere (Millsaps/Hendrix) will fill out one of the regions. The wrench: the IIAC could snag a Pool C ahead of the CCIW or WIAC. The MIAC seems like a lock for two bids.

Probably jumping the gun with many games yet to be played, but that's my hunch right now.

EDIT: Forgot about Wash U, so it might come down to IIAC #2 vs. WIAC #2 vs. CCIW #2 for two spots. I still think one of those southern teams flies up here.


Assuming that St. Thomas wins the MIAC and that Stevens Point wins the WIAC, I suspect that any Pool C bid out of those four conferences will create some serious bitching on these boards.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 09, 2009, 05:13:17 PM
Quote from: RSSmith on May 09, 2009, 05:06:51 PM
Quote from: OshDude on May 09, 2009, 11:47:16 AM
Capt. Obvious here, but the Oshkosh and Augie regionals have to be filled with 12 teams. The NCAA isn't too keen on flights, and there are plenty of those accounted for already. Unless Mideast teams fill in the gaps in Illinois, I think the WIAC, MIAC and CCIW get two teams. Then a flight for a team that can go anywhere (Millsaps/Hendrix) will fill out one of the regions. The wrench: the IIAC could snag a Pool C ahead of the CCIW or WIAC. The MIAC seems like a lock for two bids.

Probably jumping the gun with many games yet to be played, but that's my hunch right now.

EDIT: Forgot about Wash U, so it might come down to IIAC #2 vs. WIAC #2 vs. CCIW #2 for two spots. I still think one of those southern teams flies up here.


Assuming that St. Thomas wins the MIAC and that Stevens Point wins the WIAC, I suspect that any Pool C bid out of those four conferences will create some serious bitching on these boards.
I expect the 13th (last) Pool C bid always to be contentious.  :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on May 09, 2009, 05:17:25 PM
Point is up 7-1 after four
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on May 09, 2009, 05:41:41 PM
After five, 11-1 Pointers
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on May 09, 2009, 06:08:34 PM
Warhawks lose 11-1 in seven...congrats on an unexpectedly successful (in my view) season
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 09, 2009, 08:25:42 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 09, 2009, 04:57:51 PM
Quote from: OshDude on May 09, 2009, 11:47:16 AM
Capt. Obvious here, but the Oshkosh and Augie regionals have to be filled with 12 teams. The NCAA isn't too keen on flights, and there are plenty of those accounted for already. Unless Mideast teams fill in the gaps in Illinois, I think the WIAC, MIAC and CCIW get two teams. Then a flight for a team that can go anywhere (Millsaps/Hendrix) will fill out one of the regions. The wrench: the IIAC could snag a Pool C ahead of the CCIW or WIAC. The MIAC seems like a lock for two bids.

Probably jumping the gun with many games yet to be played, but that's my hunch right now.

EDIT: Forgot about Wash U, so it might come down to IIAC #2 vs. WIAC #2 vs. CCIW #2 for two spots. I still think one of those southern teams flies up here.

Why not fly both Hendrix and Millsaps to the Midwest and Central?
Point taken. Then the Salisbury Regional would be?:
Salisbury
NCWC
Shenandoah
Hopkins
York
Washington and Lee

Looks OK to me. Lotta ins, lotta outs once you get to bracketing.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: d3baseballnut on May 09, 2009, 08:29:06 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 09, 2009, 04:57:51 PM
Quote from: OshDude on May 09, 2009, 11:47:16 AM
Capt. Obvious here, but the Oshkosh and Augie regionals have to be filled with 12 teams. The NCAA isn't too keen on flights, and there are plenty of those accounted for already. Unless Mideast teams fill in the gaps in Illinois, I think the WIAC, MIAC and CCIW get two teams. Then a flight for a team that can go anywhere (Millsaps/Hendrix) will fill out one of the regions. The wrench: the IIAC could snag a Pool C ahead of the CCIW or WIAC. The MIAC seems like a lock for two bids.

Probably jumping the gun with many games yet to be played, but that's my hunch right now.

EDIT: Forgot about Wash U, so it might come down to IIAC #2 vs. WIAC #2 vs. CCIW #2 for two spots. I still think one of those southern teams flies up here.

Why not fly both Hendrix and Millsaps to the Midwest and Central?

Ralph, I think Hendrix will fly to the central. I dont share your thought about Millsaps though. Although the central lacks a solid #2 seed, who could be the #2 seed in the south if Millsaps left?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 09, 2009, 08:40:10 PM
Quote from: d3baseballnut on May 09, 2009, 08:29:06 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 09, 2009, 04:57:51 PM
Quote from: OshDude on May 09, 2009, 11:47:16 AM
Capt. Obvious here, but the Oshkosh and Augie regionals have to be filled with 12 teams. The NCAA isn't too keen on flights, and there are plenty of those accounted for already. Unless Mideast teams fill in the gaps in Illinois, I think the WIAC, MIAC and CCIW get two teams. Then a flight for a team that can go anywhere (Millsaps/Hendrix) will fill out one of the regions. The wrench: the IIAC could snag a Pool C ahead of the CCIW or WIAC. The MIAC seems like a lock for two bids.

Probably jumping the gun with many games yet to be played, but that's my hunch right now.

EDIT: Forgot about Wash U, so it might come down to IIAC #2 vs. WIAC #2 vs. CCIW #2 for two spots. I still think one of those southern teams flies up here.

Why not fly both Hendrix and Millsaps to the Midwest and Central?

Ralph, I think Hendrix will fly to the central. I dont share your thought about Millsaps though. Although the central lacks a solid #2 seed, who could be the #2 seed in the south if Millsaps left?
In that part of the NCAA that gets flown wherever the committee needs to fly someone, I shouldn't be surprised when the NCAA ships someone anywhere.  Central bracket doesn't have a good #2.

There are other bracketologists who know the budget/finance nuances of this better than I, so I will defer to them.  However, Shenandoah was #3 seed in the final South Region rankings that we saw.

FWIW, why not keep Millsaps in the Central time zone?   ;D

Does the committee need to move a strong Midwest Region team out of that region as a #2 Central Region team?

Hendrix is a good #5 or #6 seed.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: d3baseballnut on May 09, 2009, 08:53:41 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 09, 2009, 08:40:10 PM
Quote from: d3baseballnut on May 09, 2009, 08:29:06 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 09, 2009, 04:57:51 PM
Quote from: OshDude on May 09, 2009, 11:47:16 AM
Capt. Obvious here, but the Oshkosh and Augie regionals have to be filled with 12 teams. The NCAA isn't too keen on flights, and there are plenty of those accounted for already. Unless Mideast teams fill in the gaps in Illinois, I think the WIAC, MIAC and CCIW get two teams. Then a flight for a team that can go anywhere (Millsaps/Hendrix) will fill out one of the regions. The wrench: the IIAC could snag a Pool C ahead of the CCIW or WIAC. The MIAC seems like a lock for two bids.

Probably jumping the gun with many games yet to be played, but that's my hunch right now.

EDIT: Forgot about Wash U, so it might come down to IIAC #2 vs. WIAC #2 vs. CCIW #2 for two spots. I still think one of those southern teams flies up here.

Why not fly both Hendrix and Millsaps to the Midwest and Central?

Ralph, I think Hendrix will fly to the central. I dont share your thought about Millsaps though. Although the central lacks a solid #2 seed, who could be the #2 seed in the south if Millsaps left?
In that part of the NCAA that gets flown wherever the committee needs to fly someone, I shouldn't be surprised when the NCAA ships someone anywhere.  Central bracket doesn't have a good #2.

There are other bracketologists who know the budget/finance nuances of this better than I, so I will defer to them.  However, Shenandoah was #3 seed in the final South Region rankings that we saw.

FWIW, why not keep Millsaps in the Central time zone?   ;D

Does the committee need to move a strong Midwest Region team out of that region as a #2 Central Region team?

Hendrix is a good #5 or #6 seed.

If they were to go the route of sending a Midwest team to the central to be a #2 seed, I could really only see them sending St. Olaf, or UWSP. If Luther wins, I could see them as a #2 seed. THey have played very well lately.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 09, 2009, 09:01:04 PM
Quote from: d3baseballnut on May 09, 2009, 08:53:41 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 09, 2009, 08:40:10 PM
Quote from: d3baseballnut on May 09, 2009, 08:29:06 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 09, 2009, 04:57:51 PM
Quote from: OshDude on May 09, 2009, 11:47:16 AM
Capt. Obvious here, but the Oshkosh and Augie regionals have to be filled with 12 teams. The NCAA isn't too keen on flights, and there are plenty of those accounted for already. Unless Mideast teams fill in the gaps in Illinois, I think the WIAC, MIAC and CCIW get two teams. Then a flight for a team that can go anywhere (Millsaps/Hendrix) will fill out one of the regions. The wrench: the IIAC could snag a Pool C ahead of the CCIW or WIAC. The MIAC seems like a lock for two bids.

Probably jumping the gun with many games yet to be played, but that's my hunch right now.

EDIT: Forgot about Wash U, so it might come down to IIAC #2 vs. WIAC #2 vs. CCIW #2 for two spots. I still think one of those southern teams flies up here.

Why not fly both Hendrix and Millsaps to the Midwest and Central?

Ralph, I think Hendrix will fly to the central. I dont share your thought about Millsaps though. Although the central lacks a solid #2 seed, who could be the #2 seed in the south if Millsaps left?
In that part of the NCAA that gets flown wherever the committee needs to fly someone, I shouldn't be surprised when the NCAA ships someone anywhere.  Central bracket doesn't have a good #2.

There are other bracketologists who know the budget/finance nuances of this better than I, so I will defer to them.  However, Shenandoah was #3 seed in the final South Region rankings that we saw.

FWIW, why not keep Millsaps in the Central time zone?   ;D

Does the committee need to move a strong Midwest Region team out of that region as a #2 Central Region team?

Hendrix is a good #5 or #6 seed.

If they were to go the route of sending a Midwest team to the central to be a #2 seed, I could really only see them sending St. Olaf, or UWSP. If Luther wins, I could see them as a #2 seed. THey have played very well lately.
Otterbein, if in and if needed, can (barely) bus to Rock Island.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 09, 2009, 10:52:51 PM
Congrats Point on winning the tourney once again.  I know I had stated those three guys were out but I was told that by a VERY RELIABLE source but am not going to name names on here and get anyone in trouble.  I wonder who is going to win the Conference tourney next year?  Let me guess Point.  They do return 8 out of 9 offensive starters and I'm guessing Kakwitch will be at 2nd.  Is Berry a Junior or senior?  I seen him listed as a Senior on the program but a parent told me he has another year of eligibility.  Is this true?  I sure hope so as Point would be sitting really good for next year.  However, after seeing what Oshkosh and Whitewater had to go through this year anything can happen injury wise or guys not joining.  I really think Koback will be a stud on the mound next year for Point.  I'm not saying Zimmerman dominating but I think very close.  He was already topping out at 92 this year and should have better command next year being a year older and I'm sure he will be working hard this summer.  If Delorit adds 2-3 mph on his fastball it certainly wouldn't hurt him.  He's really come on lately.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 09, 2009, 11:14:06 PM
Quote from: OshDude on May 09, 2009, 09:01:04 PM
Quote from: d3baseballnut on May 09, 2009, 08:53:41 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 09, 2009, 08:40:10 PM
Quote from: d3baseballnut on May 09, 2009, 08:29:06 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 09, 2009, 04:57:51 PM
Quote from: OshDude on May 09, 2009, 11:47:16 AM
Capt. Obvious here, but the Oshkosh and Augie regionals have to be filled with 12 teams. The NCAA isn't too keen on flights, and there are plenty of those accounted for already. Unless Mideast teams fill in the gaps in Illinois, I think the WIAC, MIAC and CCIW get two teams. Then a flight for a team that can go anywhere (Millsaps/Hendrix) will fill out one of the regions. The wrench: the IIAC could snag a Pool C ahead of the CCIW or WIAC. The MIAC seems like a lock for two bids.

Probably jumping the gun with many games yet to be played, but that's my hunch right now.

EDIT: Forgot about Wash U, so it might come down to IIAC #2 vs. WIAC #2 vs. CCIW #2 for two spots. I still think one of those southern teams flies up here.

Why not fly both Hendrix and Millsaps to the Midwest and Central?

Ralph, I think Hendrix will fly to the central. I dont share your thought about Millsaps though. Although the central lacks a solid #2 seed, who could be the #2 seed in the south if Millsaps left?
In that part of the NCAA that gets flown wherever the committee needs to fly someone, I shouldn't be surprised when the NCAA ships someone anywhere.  Central bracket doesn't have a good #2.

There are other bracketologists who know the budget/finance nuances of this better than I, so I will defer to them.  However, Shenandoah was #3 seed in the final South Region rankings that we saw.

FWIW, why not keep Millsaps in the Central time zone?   ;D

Does the committee need to move a strong Midwest Region team out of that region as a #2 Central Region team?

Hendrix is a good #5 or #6 seed.

If they were to go the route of sending a Midwest team to the central to be a #2 seed, I could really only see them sending St. Olaf, or UWSP. If Luther wins, I could see them as a #2 seed. THey have played very well lately.
Otterbein, if in and if needed, can (barely) bus to Rock Island.
Hey dude, you got 10 miles spare!  File that one away!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 11, 2009, 02:38:23 AM
Congratulations, UWW
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 11, 2009, 08:01:49 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 11, 2009, 02:38:23 AM
Congratulations, UWW

Yes, a big pat on the back for the Warhawks - and a #3 seed at that...I really didn't see that coming!!   :o   ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on May 11, 2009, 09:15:57 AM
Quote from: BoBo on May 11, 2009, 08:01:49 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 11, 2009, 02:38:23 AM
Congratulations, UWW

Yes, a big pat on the back for the Warhawks - and a #3 seed at that...I really didn't see that coming!!   :o   ;)


File under "Stranger Things Have Happened"....Good luck to the Warhawks and to the Pointers!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 11, 2009, 09:59:43 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 09, 2009, 08:42:51 AM
I would have to agree with that.  Oshkosh has the best facilities and certainly has done well with recruiting especially this year.  To me they have a huge advantage with their history of great players but it appears more kids are wanting to go to Point and Whitewater now.  I think it's time for Oshkosh to go in a different direction as much as I know some people love Lechnir.  I personally like him as a coach and his style but I've spoken to hundreds of people about it and I would say the majority don't like playing for him.
And how many of those "hundreds of people" that you talked to actually played for him? 

One of your hometown Manawa boys is actually an assistant coach for him now, so I doubt he would be coaching with him if he didn't like playing for him.

I'm not sure why I am even bothering to respond to your comments though, as you lost pretty much ANY credibility you had this season with your rants about Point..... ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 11, 2009, 10:08:12 AM
Quote from: OshDude on May 09, 2009, 09:42:53 AM
The outcome was disappointing, but I hope that crew is back for another shot next year. And I agree that UWO will not play another game this year.
They are definitely going to have to find some pitching if they want to win on a more consistent basis...  They will return nearly their entire line-up, but will still be lacking in the pitching department.

OF-Sebesta, Helland, N. Fadness
IF-Berger, Eichstaedt, Jirschele, Kannenberg
C-Hirsoskey
DH-?

Fosler and Wetenkamp end up being the pieces that need to be replaced, only because Demmin missed 2/3 of the season as it was.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 11, 2009, 10:19:14 AM
If I remember correctly Gerl also quit for one season because he couldn't take Lechnir riding him about everything.  He rejoined the team because he loves baseball not because he likes Lechnir.  Who wouldn't take the opportunity to be first base coach for a D3 program?  I would do it even if I didn't agree with how Lechnir runs the show.  Let's face it Lechnir cares about himself and himself only.  It's proven by the way he uses his pitching staff.  It's not safe to throw a guy 4 innings one game and 9 the next.  That's not baseball!!  I actually do know a lot of people that played for Oshkosh and the majority didn't have much good to say about Lechnir's style.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: GBMAN on May 11, 2009, 10:23:02 AM
   



Consider UW-Whitewater and St. Norbert party crashers.

Both teams failed to win their respective conference tournaments over the weekend but both secured at-large berths in the 54-team NCAA Division III baseball field released Monday morning.

Whitewater (26-17), which finished third in the national tournament last season, was seeded third in the Central Regional in Moline, Ill.

St. Norbert (23-13) was seeded fourth in the Midwest Regional in Oshkosh.

They joined automatic qualifiers Carthage (32-6), UW-Stevens Point (29-14) and Beloit (28-7).

Regional play begins Wednesday.

Carthage, which won the College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin regular-season and tournament titles, is seeded No. 1 in the Central Regional.

Stevens Point, which beat Whitewater in the final of the Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference tournament, was seeded fifth in the Midwest Regional.

Beloit, which beat St. Norbert in the Midwest Conference title game, was seeded sixth in the Midwest Regional.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 11, 2009, 10:23:26 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 11, 2009, 10:19:14 AM
If I remember correctly Gerl also quit for one season because he couldn't take Lechnir riding him about everything.  He rejoined the team because he loves baseball not because he likes Lechnir.  Who wouldn't take the opportunity to be first base coach for a D3 program?  I would do it even if I didn't agree with how Lechnir runs the show.  Let's face it Lechnir cares about himself and himself only.  It's proven by the way he uses his pitching staff.  It's not safe to throw a guy 4 innings one game and 9 the next.  That's not baseball!!  I actually do know a lot of people that played for Oshkosh and the majority didn't have much good to say about Lechnir's style.
You couldn't be more wrong.....  But hey, at least you are consistent, as you have been wrong pretty much all season!!!! ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 11, 2009, 10:30:53 AM
You can say I'm wrong but I think I've been right more than wrong.  My ripping on Point was for a good reason as you can see now.  They were coasting at the beginning of the year and playing to the level of the competition.  It's frustrating as a die hard fan to watch a group of guys so talented almost get 10 runned by Ripon and almost get swept in a DH by Stout.  Point has guys on their bench that could be starting on any team in the conference so I'm sorry I have such high expectations.  At least Bloom finally has his batting order correct.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 11, 2009, 10:36:22 AM
Quote from: BoBo on May 11, 2009, 08:01:49 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 11, 2009, 02:38:23 AM
Congratulations, UWW

Yes, a big pat on the back for the Warhawks - and a #3 seed at that...I really didn't see that coming!!   :o   ;)


I have to admit that I told everyone who asked "no way."  I should have listened to ex-WARHAWK coach Jim Miller who told me that "stranger things have happened."  When will I learn?  :D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 11, 2009, 10:38:45 AM
I'm happy Whitewater made it in but I personally thought their were better teams left out.  The WIAC has to have 2 teams in every year though.  The conference is just too tough top to bottom to only have 1.  Really sucks for Oshkosh and Whitewater with all the injuries this year or we may have seen a WIAC team playing for the title.  There's just not a standout team this year in D3 and it's more up for grabs than I've seen in years.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on May 11, 2009, 03:03:15 PM
Quote from: PointerTime on May 11, 2009, 10:30:53 AM
You can say I'm wrong but I think I've been right more than wrong.  My ripping on Point was for a good reason as you can see now.  They were coasting at the beginning of the year and playing to the level of the competition.  It's frustrating as a die hard fan to watch a group of guys so talented almost get 10 runned by Ripon and almost get swept in a DH by Stout.  Point has guys on their bench that could be starting on any team in the conference so I'm sorry I have such high expectations.  At least Bloom finally has his batting order correct.

I can't say that I remember a single time that your were right about anything this year!  and If your sources for uwo and lechnir are twice as credible as the ones you 'have' at point I still would not think twice about believing a word they say!  everytime you post a ridiculous comment I ask people right away before I respond, people who have a clue mind you, and they all laugh really hard everytime.  Being a die hard fan of the program you should understand at least a little bit by now how things work.  Instead you jump on and off the bandwagon about 3,595,090 times during the season.  One week you hate the whole team and coach, and the next they're a top 15 team in the country!  Get a clue.  If you want to be a good fan to the program, try backing them all year long and not tearing them apart.  All programs have ups and downs, it's part of the season and it's what makes the team better in the end.  In order to find the lineup that is best you need to experiment a little and tinker with guys, to your disliking.  Not to mention the only reason you like it as it is right now is because they are producing runs and winning.  If they weren't, you'd be on here saying the lineup is crazy and this and that.  seriously I'm not even sure why you post on here anymore....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on May 11, 2009, 03:06:08 PM
...and in other news

congratulations to point for taking the tourney title again, must still have a little 'witter field magic' left in the tank.  Very exciting year all around the conference, hopefully we can sneak somebody through to the series again, it's been a long time since the WIAC wasn't represented in appleton!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on May 11, 2009, 03:42:06 PM
With Stevens Point's pitching staff, they have a legit shot in making it to the series.  I'm still waiting for their lineup to hit it's potential, I know it's far better than what they have shown thus far.  I mean only two players hitting over .300 is not at all what that team is capable of.  If they start sticking like they can and the pitching staff keeps up what they have been doing, I would not be surprised to see them take the regional.  I expect them to go with the same pitching rotation they went with in the WIAC tourney.  Williams, Barry or Delorit, then have Zielke, Lorenz, and Koback in relief.  Nix will most likely get a start as well but I'm not sure when, he might be the anchor and put on another show like he did last year in the WIAC tourney against WW.  He definitely is one of the best on the team if he's on.  I guess it all depends on how they do in the first couple of games. They may only need 4 starters if they win out. 

I don't know what to think about WW down in Il.  They're a good enough team to be in the regional, but not the 3 seed, but seeding shouldn't matter in the long run.  They will have to step it up to get out of the regional, but I would love to see them make the series if Point does, because that would be awesome to send to teams from the WIAC to the Series. When is the last time that happened?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 11, 2009, 03:53:59 PM
Say what you want about Stevens Point and Witter Field but the fact of the matter is that Bloom has won 5 straight.  That isn't something that happens by chance.  He has to be doing something right.  Perhaps they have their ups and downs during the season but when it really counts they get it done.  As much as it pains this WARHAWK fan you have to respect that and give credit where it is due.  
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on May 11, 2009, 04:04:57 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 11, 2009, 03:53:59 PM
Say what you want about Stevens Point and Witter Field but the fact of the matter is that Bloom has won 5 straight.  That isn't something that happens by chance.  He has to be doing something right.  Perhaps they have their ups and downs during the season but when it really counts they get it done.  As much as it pains this WARHAWK fan you have to respect that and give credit where it is due.  

...I was saying witter field magic just as a reference to all those who thought that was the only reason point was winning the conference tourney the past four years (which it had little to nothing to do with).  Point fans/players have equal respect for the club down in WW as much as it may not show when the two teams play!  UWSP UWW first round matchup in the series would be very interesting...I'm thinking an attendance record would be broken for the series at that game! :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: titan2000 on May 11, 2009, 10:14:45 PM
Quote from: titan2000 on May 08, 2009, 04:22:29 PM
Rumor has it that a number of WW football players just ran on the field and demanded to be cheered for while they delayed the between inning warm-up.   Apparently the school paper came out to take pictures and was denied access to the field.   ::)



So what happened there....did they get those guys off the field or was their any further incident ?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 12, 2009, 10:08:47 AM
It turns out they were actually soccer athletes so the Royal Purple was granted access.  They wrote a front page spread, mailed it to all of the major media outlets in the state and said it was fun. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: d3baseballnut on May 12, 2009, 10:39:08 AM
Does anyone know what happened to so many underclassmen from the 2008 UWW team and why they are not playing this year.

Especially:

Joe Munn

Jeff Donovan

Jordan Stine

Greg Donovan
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on May 12, 2009, 10:42:13 AM
not sure on Munn...

stine had a season ending injury (I believe to his throwing shoulder?)

The donovans, and I'm not sure which one is which...but one of them got a 0.32 gpa and was declared academically ineligible, and the other one was kicked off the team by vo for some off field actions that didn't mesh with the team and what they stand for.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: d3baseballnut on May 12, 2009, 10:45:45 AM
wow....

those are some serious losses.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 12, 2009, 11:13:20 AM
Quote from: d3baseballnut on May 12, 2009, 10:39:08 AM
Does anyone know what happened to so many underclassmen from the 2008 UWW team and why they are not playing this year.

Especially:

Joe Munn

Jeff Donovan

Jordan Stine

Greg Donovan

Munn left school.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: d3baseballnut on May 12, 2009, 11:32:03 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 12, 2009, 11:13:20 AM
Quote from: d3baseballnut on May 12, 2009, 10:39:08 AM
Does anyone know what happened to so many underclassmen from the 2008 UWW team and why they are not playing this year.

Especially:

Joe Munn

Jeff Donovan

Jordan Stine

Greg Donovan

Munn left school.

Why????
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 12, 2009, 11:34:20 AM
They asked him to show his ID before entering the weight room.  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: GBMAN on May 12, 2009, 12:29:20 PM
60 to 70 % of showers for Moline, IL the site of the Augustgana Regional.... UW-W plays at 7 and by that time all the rain should be out of the area per weather.com....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 12, 2009, 12:53:27 PM
Quote from: GBMAN on May 12, 2009, 12:29:20 PM
60 to 70 % of showers for Moline, IL the site of the Augustgana Regional.... UW-W plays at 7 and by that time all the rain should be out of the area per weather.com....

They better hope that it doesnt rain much so the games dont get pushed back, because UWW will be playing late or early in the morning
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on May 12, 2009, 02:36:28 PM
An FYI:  Millsaps will webcast all of their games at the regionals and they will have a Coach's show this evening at 6 Central.  More information at:  http://www.gomajors.com/news/2009/5/12/BB_0512090021.aspx
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: voice on May 12, 2009, 05:32:12 PM
All games involving UW-Whitewater will be broadcast LIVE on KOOL 106.5.
The games will be streamed at:  http://www.uwwsports.com/sports/gen/2007/followthewarhawks_09202007.asp

The broadcast begins 15 minutes prior to game-time
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: GBMAN on May 13, 2009, 07:35:03 AM
I will be leaving at about 1:30 pm for Moline.. GO HAWKS
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on May 13, 2009, 02:45:00 PM
Since Brad Demmin played in 40% of Oshkosh's games this year does that mean that he won't be eligible for a medical red shirt? I was wondering it got declined, because why else would he have played in the tournament game against WW.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 13, 2009, 02:54:00 PM
Quote from: Brewers20 on May 13, 2009, 02:45:00 PM
Since Brad Demmin played in 40% of Oshkosh's games this year does that mean that he won't be eligible for a medical red shirt? I was wondering it got declined, because why else would he have played in the tournament game against WW.
Knowing that he had likely played in too many games already to receive a "medical hardship waiver" was the exact reason why Oshkosh trotted Demmin onto the field for the WIAC Tournament.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on May 13, 2009, 03:05:14 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 13, 2009, 02:54:00 PM
Quote from: Brewers20 on May 13, 2009, 02:45:00 PM
Since Brad Demmin played in 40% of Oshkosh's games this year does that mean that he won't be eligible for a medical red shirt? I was wondering it got declined, because why else would he have played in the tournament game against WW.
Knowing that he had likely played in too many games already to receive a "medical hardship waiver" was the exact reason why Oshkosh trotted Demmin onto the field for the WIAC Tournament.
thats what i figured...tough brake for demmin and the titans.  that is definitely not how you want to end your career, especially being pre-season all-american.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 13, 2009, 03:44:17 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 30, 2009, 01:58:16 PM
Position player wise, I think there are a handful of "locks."
-Berger***
-Fanta***
-Richter***
-Jacobson***
-Gram***
-Giebel (HM)

Then the remaining nine spots are up for grabs among about fifteen guys:
-Fadness ***
-Fosler***
-Hiroskey (HM)
-Sebesta (HM)
-Surman (I would take him over Spurney, despite the lower BA as OB% nearly identical and better power numbers)
-Spurney
-Archambeau
-Stace***
-Gilbertson
-O'Connell***
-Kuhlman***
-Olson (HM)
-Cummings***
-Kannenberg*** (Should end up with enough at-bats to be eligible as both a position player and pitcher like Endl was a few years back.)

POY-I think Berger is again a "lock" as he leads the WIAC in batting average, hits, runs, and RBI's, and is near the top in HR's, total bases, and doubles.

**I bolded the nine guys I would place on the 1st Team**
I ended up getting 12 of the 16 position players selected correct....  (I only picked 15 going off of last year.)

Instead of Giebel, Archambeau, and Surman making it, Zalnis, Hawkins, Coe and Fritz were selected. 

I have NO CLUE how Zalnis or Fritz and their .286 and .276 WIAC averages made it.....

Richter, thanks to a late charge, wins the Position Player of the Year award.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 13, 2009, 03:50:26 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 30, 2009, 01:29:48 PM
As far as your pitchers, I think your list is pretty accurate, except that I think Saufley should be replaced by either Kannenberg or Lange.  Lange leads the WIAC in innings pitched, and is 2nd in strikeouts.  Kannenberg on the other hand has an ERA over a half run better than both of them, and is tied for third in the WIAC in wins.

As far as the Pitcher of the Year, Zielke is probably the leading candidate, however I wouldn't be surprised if it was a close vote.  Not because of numbers, but because there are some out there who feel the award should go to a starting pitcher.  (Kind of the same thoughts as the Position Player of the Year not going to a DH, but to a player that played the field.)

The two pre-season favorites, in Rubens and Dott, are likely out of the running, as pitchers on their own teams are having better seasons, in Hooper and Kannenberg.
Looks like I was right, as not only was Zielke passed over for the Pitcher of the Year award, he also missed out on a 1st Team selection.  Only four pitchers were selected this season, compared to five last year, and Lange, Dott, Hooper, and Williams were the winners.

Lange was selected as the Pitcher of the Year, after leading the WIAC in innings pitched, second in strikeouts, fifth in saves, and ninth in ERA at 3.86.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on May 13, 2009, 04:01:17 PM
yah, there are definitely some spots on the all-wiac team that i don't agree with either
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on May 13, 2009, 04:09:01 PM
This years All WIAC team is a joke!  There are many deserving players on it and congratulations to everyone who did get on it, but it's quiet obvious that having a persuasive coach who goes to battle for you can get you on when you don't deserve to be there!   The numbers for this team have got to be the worst EVER for an all WIAC club.  You got guys on here with terrible averages, next to no rbis, horrible fldg %'s...IDK what's happening here, but it used to be incredibly difficult to make that team apparently that's not the case anymore.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on May 13, 2009, 04:19:45 PM
Quote from: Dagger on May 13, 2009, 04:09:01 PM
This years All WIAC team is a joke!  There are many deserving players on it and congratulations to everyone who did get on it, but it's quiet obvious that having a persuasive coach who goes to battle for you can get you on when you don't deserve to be there!   The numbers for this team have got to be the worst EVER for an all WIAC club.  You got guys on here with terrible averages, next to no rbis, horrible fldg %'s...IDK what's happening here, but it used to be incredibly difficult to make that team apparently that's not the case anymore.
well put...what is this years all-wiac team average?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 14, 2009, 10:34:38 PM
Whitewater pulls out an impossible victory with 2 runs, off 3 Washington U errors, in the bottom of the ninth for a 3-2 win.  Aaron Dott with 12 SO's in the complete game win.  The Wash U pitcher Williams was outstanding, too.  The Warhawks move on in the winners bracket at Moline and will face #2 Millsaps, a 5-3 winner earlier in the day vs Wartburg.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 14, 2009, 10:43:37 PM
If I am correct, this is tomorrow's line-up:

Whitewater (1-0) vs. Millsaps (1-0)
Carthage (1-0) vs. WashU (0-1)
Wartburg (0-1) vs Fontbonne (0-1)

Not sure on the times.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 15, 2009, 06:27:11 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 14, 2009, 10:43:37 PM
If I am correct, this is tomorrow's line-up:

Whitewater (1-0) vs. Millsaps (1-0)
Carthage (1-0) vs. WashU (0-1)
Wartburg (0-1) vs Fontbonne (0-1)

Not sure on the times.

Fontbonne (0-1) vs. Wartburg (0-1)    10am
Carthage (1-0) vs  WashU (0-1)             1pm
Millsaps (1-0) vs. UW-Whitewater (1-0) 4pm (moved from 7pm due to expected evening T'storms)

Game schedule is listed on the Augustana Regional (http://www.augustana.edu/x12950.xml) website.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: voice on May 15, 2009, 08:50:32 AM
Quote from: BoBo on May 15, 2009, 06:27:11 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 14, 2009, 10:43:37 PM
If I am correct, this is tomorrow's line-up:

Whitewater (1-0) vs. Millsaps (1-0)
Carthage (1-0) vs. WashU (0-1)
Wartburg (0-1) vs Fontbonne (0-1)

Not sure on the times.

Fontbonne (0-1) vs. Wartburg (0-1)    10am
Carthage (1-0) vs  WashU (0-1)             1pm
Millsaps (1-0) vs. UW-Whitewater (1-0) 4pm (moved from 7pm due to expected evening T'storms)

Game schedule is listed on the Augustana Regional (http://www.augustana.edu/x12950.xml) website.

Today's games in jeopardy of being rained out.  It has been raining since early this morning and the rain and imbedded thunderstorms will last until sometime this evening according to local TV here in the Quad Cities. Heading to the park in a few minutes. I'll give you an update once I talk with tournament officials.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 15, 2009, 12:16:10 PM
I doubt today's games will be played.  It's been raining hard all morning and the forecast calls for rain throughout the day.  Weather is really reeking havoc with the schedule down here but pitchers are getting extra days of rest.  Forecast calls for good weather Saturday and Sunday.

Unbelievable meltdown by Wash U last night.  It was so bizarre I couldn't remember the details without checking play by play.  Dott threw perhaps his best game this season.  He just got stronger and stronger as the game progressed.  Wash U's guy was tough too. 

The way I see it Wash U owed us one after the missed free throws in Elmhurst propelled them to the National Championship in men's hoops. 

Millsap looks very good.  We've got our work cut out for us. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: voice on May 15, 2009, 12:28:52 PM
Quote from: voice on May 15, 2009, 08:50:32 AM
Quote from: BoBo on May 15, 2009, 06:27:11 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 14, 2009, 10:43:37 PM
If I am correct, this is tomorrow's line-up:

Whitewater (1-0) vs. Millsaps (1-0)
Carthage (1-0) vs. WashU (0-1)
Wartburg (0-1) vs Fontbonne (0-1)

Not sure on the times.

Fontbonne (0-1) vs. Wartburg (0-1)    10am
Carthage (1-0) vs  WashU (0-1)             1pm
Millsaps (1-0) vs. UW-Whitewater (1-0) 4pm (moved from 7pm due to expected evening T'storms)

Game schedule is listed on the Augustana Regional (http://www.augustana.edu/x12950.xml) website.

Today's games in jeopardy of being rained out.  It has been raining since early this morning and the rain and imbedded thunderstorms will last until sometime this evening according to local TV here in the Quad Cities. Heading to the park in a few minutes. I'll give you an update once I talk with tournament officials.

As BW indicated, rain a plenty here in the Quad Cities - officially NCAA has all games on hold indefinitely
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on May 15, 2009, 12:40:33 PM
Looks like a train of storms all the way back into Nebraska and Kansas
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: titan2000 on May 15, 2009, 03:40:51 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 15, 2009, 12:16:10 PM
I doubt today's games will be played.  It's been raining hard all morning and the forecast calls for rain throughout the day.  Weather is really reeking havoc with the schedule down here but pitchers are getting extra days of rest.  Forecast calls for good weather Saturday and Sunday.

The way I see it Wash U owed us one after the missed free throws in Elmhurst propelled them to the National Championship in men's hoops. 

 


Lucky for you the Lawrence Vikings played Wash U. so tough the night before or you would have been blown out.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: formman on May 16, 2009, 12:06:23 AM
UWSP is eliminated. Licht pitches a shut-out. Those kids from Minneapolis Southwest can play ball...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 16, 2009, 11:58:57 PM
Quote from: titan2000 on May 15, 2009, 03:40:51 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 15, 2009, 12:16:10 PM
I doubt today's games will be played.  It's been raining hard all morning and the forecast calls for rain throughout the day.  Weather is really reeking havoc with the schedule down here but pitchers are getting extra days of rest.  Forecast calls for good weather Saturday and Sunday.

The way I see it Wash U owed us one after the missed free throws in Elmhurst propelled them to the National Championship in men's hoops. 

 


Lucky for you the Lawrence Vikings played Wash U. so tough the night before or you would have been blown out.



Maybe we would have, maybe we wouldn't have.  All I can say is that Wash U's coach told Pat Miller that UW-WHITEWATER was the best team they faced in the playoffs.  Of course he's only won consecutive national championships so he could be mistaken.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: GBMAN on May 17, 2009, 12:34:21 PM
UW-Whitewater 8 Watrburg 2 bottom of the 7th.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: GBMAN on May 17, 2009, 01:09:20 PM
Warhawk's defeat Wartburg 8 to 3... Will play Milsaps at about 1pm.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: GBMAN on May 17, 2009, 03:45:27 PM
Warhawks are leading Milsaps 8 to 2. ww still batting at the top of the 7th.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on May 18, 2009, 11:37:20 AM
Nice to see WW doing well down in the central, just think what they could have done with a healthy/complete team!!!  Good luck today...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 18, 2009, 01:37:36 PM
They are leading Carthage in Game #1 today 4-2, heading into the bottom of 6th inning.  Aaron Dott has 8 K's, and surprisingly 6 BB's through 6 innings.

Even if Whitewater would happen to lose the first game today, it should quiet MOST of the people out there who said the WIAC didn't deserve A Pool C bid this season.  Whitewater is showing that although their record wasn't the greatest, they are still a formidable opponent.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on May 18, 2009, 02:19:43 PM
yeah, I think this goes to show you the level that the teams like lax, platt, and stout are playing at now.  To be splitting and taking 3 of 4 from some of the big three!!!  maybe the inconsistency of the play contributed also, but this is a much tougher conference than it has been from top to bottom ever IMO.  Definitely proves the wiac is worthy of a C, if not 2  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on May 18, 2009, 02:24:05 PM
WW playing at 2 this afternoon for the trip to Fox Cities.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 18, 2009, 02:57:05 PM
WARHAWKS take game one, 4-2.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on May 18, 2009, 05:36:50 PM
UWW's run ends with an 8-3 defeat to carthage today...one heck of a finish for the hawks.  To go from the team that EVERYONE (outside of the team) had written off as not even a tournament participant, to a regional championship game participant is quiet the feat.  They proved that their program is always going to be good no matter what...I can't imagine too many other teams that could absorb the hits like they did this year and still finish in the position they did! 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: RSSmith on May 18, 2009, 06:06:05 PM
Quote from: Dagger on May 18, 2009, 05:36:50 PM
UWW's run ends with an 8-3 defeat to carthage today...one heck of a finish for the hawks.  To go from the team that EVERYONE (outside of the team) had written off as not even a tournament participant, to a regional championship game participant is quiet the feat.  They proved that their program is always going to be good no matter what...I can't imagine too many other teams that could absorb the hits like they did this year and still finish in the position they did! 

You could say exactly the same thing about Johns Hopkins.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 18, 2009, 06:35:51 PM
Quote from: Dagger on May 18, 2009, 05:36:50 PM
UWW's run ends with an 8-3 defeat to carthage today...one heck of a finish for the hawks.  To go from the team that EVERYONE (outside of the team) had written off as not even a tournament participant, to a regional championship game participant is quiet the feat.  They proved that their program is always going to be good no matter what...I can't imagine too many other teams that could absorb the hits like they did this year and still finish in the position they did! 


There were those who thought we didn't belong and those who thought we were "the team most likely to disappoint."  But I think we proved all of them wrong and even though we came up short we don't have anything to hang our heads over.   We've got a lot of players returning and the experience they've gained this year will go a long way next year.  Now we just need to add a few pieces and we'll be set to make another run next year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on May 18, 2009, 07:22:10 PM
The Warhawks could have a dream defensive outfield if Wong, Stine, and Petrasko all return
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 18, 2009, 07:38:43 PM
Quote from: Barber Greene on May 18, 2009, 07:22:10 PM
The Warhawks could have a dream defensive outfield if Wong, Stine, and Petrasko all return

Stating in May who might return next March is dangerous business - I think we all have learned a little something about that one after what happened this year...but I understand where you are coming from, Barber Greene!! There should always be a lot of optimism!!  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: RedmanFan35 on May 18, 2009, 08:01:02 PM
To all the Whitewater faithfull,

I heard all the talk that and saw the , Boards, that said you didn't deserve the bid. Don't think for a second that the Carthage Team or their, Faithfull, thought that for a second.

While everyone else was talking, Milsaps. The Carthage Camp was thinking Whitewater.

Your a Class Act. Congratulations on a Great Season.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on May 18, 2009, 08:07:03 PM
Quote from: BoBo on May 18, 2009, 07:38:43 PM
Quote from: Barber Greene on May 18, 2009, 07:22:10 PM
The Warhawks could have a dream defensive outfield if Wong, Stine, and Petrasko all return

Stating in May who might return next March is dangerous business - I think we all have learned a little something about that one after what happened this year...but I understand where you are coming from, Barber Greene!! There should always be a lot of optimism!!  ;)

You are correct Bobo. I am also hopeful that Jeff Donovan sees the baseball field again for the Warhawks next Spring.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: GBMAN on May 18, 2009, 08:38:47 PM
Great effort Hawks !! I, for one, am very proud of you...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 18, 2009, 10:27:37 PM
As a die-hard Carthage fan, my biggest fear was seeing Whitewater shifted into the Central Regional.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: RedmanFan35 on May 19, 2009, 07:28:42 PM
Mine too !!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brian Carroll on May 30, 2009, 10:30:44 AM
Aaron Dott of UWW threw 7 shutout innings for the La Crosse Loggers of the Northwoods League on Thursday night. He allowed only 2 hits and picked up the season-opening win in front of more than 3000 fans. He speaks well of the Logger fans, and the positive feelings are mutual. It's nice to see a Warhawk making a positive contribution to the La Crosse sports scene. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hickory_cornhusker on June 05, 2009, 07:38:09 PM
Bad news for WIAC basbeall.

http://lacrossetribune.com/articles/2009/06/05/newsupdate/13uwlcuts.txt

Barring something major happening before Wednesday UW-La Crosse will be cutting baseball and men's tennis. Men's tennis isn't a championship sport in the WIAC but baseball will be down to only 6 members after this.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brian Carroll on June 06, 2009, 12:13:52 AM
No more chilly April baseball games in the La Crosse marsh. The Eagles are dropping baseball.  I am sorry to see it go.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brian Carroll on June 06, 2009, 12:18:37 AM
I watched Aaron Dott of UWW throw 5 strong innings for the La Crosse Loggers Wednesday night. He allowed only 1 run, but got no run support at all. The Loggers rallied to win, and thus Mr. Dott avoided what would have been a real tough -luck loss. I calculate his ERA to be an impressive 0.75.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 06, 2009, 09:00:56 AM
There goes our automatic bid to the NCAA postseason.  For several years there has been rumors of either Superior or Stout dropping baseball but I never imagined LaCrosse would scrap it. 

It sounds like Dott is having an excellent summer season, BC.  It's probable that he will be drafted in the upcoming MLB draft.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on June 06, 2009, 09:05:31 AM
You would think it wouldn't take too much to fund raise 60,000 to keep it going another year, then see how the budget looks at that time.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on June 06, 2009, 11:18:56 AM
Headline you'll see in the near future:  "WIAC welcomes Finlandia as associate member for baseball"
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hickory_cornhusker on June 06, 2009, 01:49:04 PM
Assuming this all goes through, it isn't official until Wdnesday, the WIAC will have two years to find a 7th member before they forfeit their Pool A bid. I think next year they will play with six and put pressure on River Falls, Eau Claire and La Crosse to reinstate baseball. If that doesn't work I think they try to get Finlandia.

I could very easily seeing them joining the league for baseball. I talked about this on the Pool B board. Finlandia is the lone independent in the area other than North Central University in the Twin Cities and I think they will be eventually scooped up by the Upper Midwest Athletic Conference. After them I think the next closest Pool B team is Wash U in St. Louis. Finlandia is already in the conference for men's soccer. Even though Finlandia wouldn't be able to compete they would get a much more stable schedule and more home games than they had this year, two. They mention on their website they are looking for conferences for all of their sports teams. Unfortunately in Division 3 there are no options for them.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 06, 2009, 02:50:02 PM
While we are talking about Finlandia, they can fill their niches sport by sport by affiliation.

Men's sports:

Baseball -- can help the WIAC maintain AQ
Basketball -- where can they affiliate and compete?
Cross Country -- doesn't need a conference per se
Golf -- might help the UMAC maintain an AQ in Men's Golf by affiliating.  The UMAC has 7 golf playing members.  Finlandia would give some leeway in case one school did not have enough golfers one season.
Ice Hockey -- Midwest Collegiate Hockey Association
Soccer -- affiliating with the WIAC men.

Women's sports:

Basketball -- where can they affiliate?
Cross Country -- doesn't need a conference per se
Ice Hockey -- Northern Collegiate Hockey Association
Soccer -- affiliation?
Softball --  affiliation?
Volleyball -- affiliation?

The WIAC women do not need Finlandia as much as the WIAC men.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hickory_cornhusker on June 06, 2009, 04:45:28 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on June 06, 2009, 02:50:02 PM
While we are talking about Finlandia, they can fill their niches sport by sport by affiliation.

Men's sports:

Baseball -- can help the WIAC maintain AQ
Basketball -- where can they affiliate and compete?
Cross Country -- doesn't need a conference per se
Golf -- might help the UMAC maintain an AQ in Men's Golf by affiliating.  The UMAC has 7 golf playing members.  Finlandia would give some leeway in case one school did not have enough golfers one season.
Ice Hockey -- Midwest Collegiate Hockey Association
Soccer -- affiliating with the WIAC men.

Women's sports:

Basketball -- where can they affiliate?
Cross Country -- doesn't need a conference per se
Ice Hockey -- Northern Collegiate Hockey Association
Soccer -- affiliation?
Softball --  affiliation?
Volleyball -- affiliation?

The WIAC women do not need Finlandia as much as the WIAC men.

I think from a competitive stand point the UMAC is the best fit for Finlandia in all sports (except for hockey). The problem is adding Finlandia for all sports really stretches out the conference eastward it is already 450 miles from Presentation College (Aberdeen, SD) in the west to Northland College (Ashland, WI) in the east. Finlandia (Hancock, MI) is another 150 miles from Northland.

The WIAC works for the couple of affiliation sports on the men's side but the women's side is no help and this isn't a viable long term option for them.

The Midwest Conference gets severely stretched to the north. St. Norbert (De Pere, WI) is the farthest school to the north and they more than 200 miles south of Finlandia. It would 650 miles from Finlandia to the farthest south MWC opponent Illinois College (Jacksonville, IL) and 600 from the farthest west opponent Grinnell (Grinnell, IA).

The Northern Athletics Conference's closest opponent is Marian (Fond du Lac, WI) who is 280 miles south from Finlandia. The farthest south opponent in the NAthCon is Aurora who is 182 miles from Marian. The NAthCon prides themselves on being geographically small.

The MWC is probably the best option but I don't think Finlandia has enough sports to warrant an expansion that far north. Pretty much the only thing Finlandia brings to the table is hockey and the MWC doesn't have enough hockey teams (currently at 3 men and 1 women's team in 2010-11) that one more school could mean starting their own conference.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on June 06, 2009, 10:48:04 PM
Wisconsin LaCrosse was force to drop their baseball program THIS MEANS:

The WIAC drops to 6 teams

Automatically WIAC loses their automatic qualifier and drops to a pool B because conferences need 7 teams to be automatic qualifiers. From my understanding once the conference goes to 6 they lose that auto bid immediately unless they get another team in

They need to find someone to join their conference, which will be hard because teams dont want to leave a conference and join a really good conference, but one team that I think could be a possibility would be be Finlandia

This is huge for the WIAC!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on June 07, 2009, 12:03:05 PM
You are misinformed.  The NCAA grants a two-year grace period for Pool A conferences that fall below the 7 member minimum.  So the WIAC will have an AQ at least for 2010 and 2011.  Beyond that they will have to find a seventh member either with an exisiting member resurrecting their program or the addition of an associate member for baseball.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on June 07, 2009, 12:50:44 PM
Any word on LAX players planning to transfer? Sucks for them.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on June 07, 2009, 01:36:15 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on June 07, 2009, 12:03:05 PM
You are misinformed.  The NCAA grants a two-year grace period for Pool A conferences that fall below the 7 member minimum.  So the WIAC will have an AQ at least for 2010 and 2011.  Beyond that they will have to find a seventh member either with an exisiting member resurrecting their program or the addition of an associate member for baseball.

ok thanks
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: wizbegs1304 on June 07, 2009, 10:33:40 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on June 06, 2009, 11:18:56 AM
Headline you'll see in the near future:  "WIAC welcomes Finlandia as associate member for baseball"

I agree, they are the only school that could help matters right now.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on June 08, 2009, 01:11:22 AM
Quote from: wizkid9904 on June 07, 2009, 10:33:40 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on June 06, 2009, 11:18:56 AM
Headline you'll see in the near future:  "WIAC welcomes Finlandia as associate member for baseball"

I agree, they are the only school that could help matters right now.
I'm holding out hope that the economy bounces back – and that it's politically acceptable to add sports programs – over the next year or two. It would be hard to start a team in less than a year (admittedly best-case scenario as to when the economy possibly makes it viable and factoring all the legwork in building a program) in the Eau C or River Falls. But if LAX has not burned all bridges, it's conceivable that in two years Dr. Gow goes from a goat to whatever resembles a goat but isn't quite as bad as a goat. I'm a glass-is-half-full guy.

Finlandia? I hope not. If that's the case, the member schools should hold fundraisers and camps for the three without baseball teams or get the NCAA to allow a Whitewater B team. If both UWW teams are worthy of the NCAA tournament, UWW would have to choose one like with relay track teams.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanBystander on June 08, 2009, 10:03:06 AM
Talk about choosing between two bad options...

Add Finlandia?  22-115 since their inception in 2004.  No offense, but this sounds worse than Superior before Coach Morgan arrived.  For all you fans in P-Ville, you get to look forward to the 7 hour & 37 minute drive!  (Per Mapquest.com)

Not Add Finalndia?  Then we lose the auto-bid which would almost assure that only one WIAC team makes the post season.       



Probably beating a dead horse here, but come on LAX - and specifically Chancellor Gow! For $60K you cut TWO sports?  $60K in an athletic department like LAX is a rounding error!  Find the money somewhere.       

Here are some options to consider: 
Rather than sending the Football team to Texas for a non-conference game, have them play at home or some closer venue.  Basketball tournament in Texas?  Really necessary?
Stop the excessive travel and trim a little back on each remaining program and I'll bet you instantly save the money necessary to fund both of these teams.

To me, this simply sounds like the Chancellor throwing a hissy fit about the cutbacks from the State government and going for the political "we'll show 'em" play.  $60K out of a budget the size it takes to run a university?  Get serious! 



Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 08, 2009, 10:05:40 AM
Without adding a female sport and/or increasing the roster size of the existing female sports I don't see us increasing the baseball roster to a size necessary to field two teams.  I don't know if Oshdude is serious about that but I don't see it happening under any circumstance.

If the WIAC was willing to waive the conference afflilation requirement of fielding a football team for Superior they are never going to require EC or RF to field a baseball team.   Findlandia may be the best option though I don't know anything about their desire to do so.  

While economics appears to be the primary reason for LaCrosse dropping baseball they also bring their male/female athlete ration more into line with what Title IX is seeking.  So even if they could come up with the $60K they may not be interested in reinstating the program.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on June 08, 2009, 10:49:39 AM
Finlandia has made it clear in the past that they desire conference affiliations wherever and whenever they can get them.  They are already going to be a WIAC affiliate in men's soccer, so that door has already been opened.  Their scheduling is so difficult that if they can join a conference and guarantee 2/3 of their schedule is done for them, they will take it.  I'm sure they have already put in a call to the WIAC to let them know they are ready if invited.

With a two-year window, the WIAC may not bring in Finlandia right away, hoping for the (IMO) slim chance that one of the full members comes back to baseball.  I doubt that will happen, but there's no harm waiting two years.

Quote from: TitanBystander on June 08, 2009, 10:03:06 AM
Not Add Finalndia?  Then we lose the auto-bid which would almost assure that only one WIAC team makes the post season. 

I disagree. I think being in Pool B probably gives the WIAC a better chance to get two or more teams in.  Pool B is terribly weak and is only getting smaller. Chapman has used Pool B as a defacto automatic bid for years.

Quote from: TitanBystander on June 08, 2009, 10:03:06 AM
Here are some options to consider: 
Rather than sending the Football team to Texas for a non-conference game, have them play at home or some closer venue.  Basketball tournament in Texas?  Really necessary?
Stop the excessive travel and trim a little back on each remaining program and I'll bet you instantly save the money necessary to fund both of these teams.

I don't think you're on the right track here.  UW-La Crosse opted to play 9-game schedules for two seasons rather than take a long expensive trip just to fill their 10th game.  I don't think you can blame this Texas trip for the loss of the baseball team.  The difficulties of WIAC teams scheduling local football games has been been documented enough on these message boards to fill volumes. One willing participant is still one short of getting a game scheduled.

In addition these long trips like the football and men's basketball trips you cited are usually funded out of the booster/foundation account.  They are specifically fundraised for that purpose. It's not likely that a large share of the program's normal operating budget is used on these trips. In fact, the basketball teams that I have been associated with have usually asked the players to pay a portion of the trip directly out of their pocket.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hickory_cornhusker on June 08, 2009, 11:58:03 AM
Right now Pool B would be an easier route for the WIAC with their 6 bids but by 2011 they will be down to 3. Even with the WIAC's 6 it will be maybe 4, maybe not. Pool B is shrinking to the point where it will be harder to get teams in that way than a Pool A bid and hope for a Pool C would. Plus with Pool B there is no advantage to getting hot through the conference tournament if you had a subpar year. If La Crosse would have won the conference tourney this year they wouldn't have gotten in.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on June 11, 2009, 10:31:45 AM
In the immortal words of Monty Python, "We're not dead yet!"

http://www.uwlax.edu/Athletics/

Updated Message from UW-La Crosse Chancellor Gow Regarding Baseball and Men's Tennis
La Crosse, Wis. – The following is an updated message from University of Wisconsin-La Crosse Chancellor Joe Gow regarding the Eagles' baseball and men's tennis programs:

As you know, the State's extraordinary budget reductions to UW-L have forced us to make a wide range of difficult cuts, including ending our baseball and men's tennis programs. We had planned today to formally notify the Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Association (WIAC) about the elimination of these two programs; however, at the request of numerous alumni, parents and friends of the University we are delaying notifying WIAC officials about our plans so that our coaches and potential donors can determine whether it is feasible for these two sports to be supported entirely through private funding for the coming year, and possibly on into the future. We have indicated that we can wait until September 1st to learn the donors' intentions for the coming 2009-2010 season, because at that point the baseball and men¹s tennis coaches will need to have contracts and begin being compensated for their work. 

Although fundraising for sports activities at UW-L is a longstanding tradition, we have never thought it possible or desirable to fund an entire program or programs through private donations. However, in light of the unique situation we're currently facing, we don't want to deny the coaches and the many enthusiastic supporters of our baseball and men's tennis teams the opportunity to see what might be possible. Our athletic department has determined that, based on last year's budgets and input from the coaches overseeing them, maintaining baseball for the coming 2009-2010 season will require $50,000 and continuing men's tennis for another year will require $40,000. As I've said, these funds will need to be in hand by September 1st. 

Provided adequate monies can be raised to fund the two programs for 2009-2010, donors then will need to make more challenging decisions about whether they are able to sustain baseball and men's tennis over the long term. Based on discussions with our coaches and athletic department leadership, we have determined that five years of advance funding will need to be raised before we can tell potential UW-L students these programs are stable. Because privately funded programs will not draw the student fees they now receive (a decision approved by our coaches and athletic department leadership), the annual costs of baseball and men's tennis will rise over the 2010-2015 period; thus several hundred thousand dollars will need to be raised to sustain each program for these five years. And these large funding pools would need to be raised by May 1, 2010 so that coaches, players and prospective recruits could have a realistic sense of the viability of the baseball and men's tennis programs beyond the 2009-2010 season and be able to make informed decisions about their future personal plans. 

In the days since we made the very painful announcement that UW-L is no longer able to maintain financial support for baseball and men's tennis Athletic Director Joe Baker and I have been struck by the outpouring of concern we've received via e-mail messages, telephone calls and personal conversations. But our current budget crisis gives us no choice but to ask for sacrifices from our athletic department, just as we have asked for sacrifices from every other area of the University. So it is very heartening to see so many members of the UW-L community come forward to offer their very generous support to keep Eagle baseball and men's tennis alive. To be honest, I'm not sure whether this is feasible over the long term; but the messages I've received this week suggest that it is entirely possible to sustain these programs for an additional year with private funds. Toward that end I am personally donating $1,000 to be divided between the baseball and men's tennis fundraising efforts for 2009-2010. While this is but a small contribution, I hope it inspires others to think about making similar gifts in support of these extraordinary campaigns. Should you wish to make your own donation please contact Pat Stephens at the L Club/UW-L Foundation (785-8153 or stephens.patr@uwlax.edu) and ask about the funds established by Baseball Coach Chris Schwarz and Men's Tennis Coach Bill Hehli. 

I look forward to providing you with an update about baseball and men's tennis once we hear the results of the fundraising now being done in support of them. As I've indicated, we'll know definitive information about the coming season by September 1st. In the meantime, thanks for your patience and continuing dedication to UW-L.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on June 11, 2009, 10:54:22 AM
I think there's inherent danger in a school sponsoring a program, but having no financial investment in it.  But I suppose a non-funded program is better than no program at all.

The scary thing about these type of campaigns is what happens if the campaigns don't reach their goals.  They say they need $50,000 for baseball and $40,000 for men's tennis by September 1.  So what if we reach that day and baseball has raised $40,000 and men's tennis has raised $30,000.  Where does that money go?  Do you think they mail back the checks?  Nope, that a cool $70,000 right in the university's pocket and they didn't have to do a damn thing to get it.

Or worse, let's say the reach their goals.  What would keep the Chancellor from saying, "Yes, we've reached the goal for next year, but we've determined that it's impossible to sustain a program this way for the long term (which is likely true), so we're going to still cut it."  That could happen too.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 11, 2009, 11:16:53 AM
Wouldn't the donations more likely be in the form of pledges until it was determined that sufficent funds had been raised?  Either way I suspect the money would be returned to the donor as it had been specifically earmarked for either baseball or tennis.

While raising the money for a single season doesn't seem like that overwhelming of a task raising enough to sustain the programs for the five year term does.

Honestly I don't care one way or the other what happens to the tennis program but I'd like to see LaCrosse keep the baseball program alive and I commend the chancellor for at least giving them the opportunity.  Considering they just hit donors up for the new football/track facility it could be a hard sell.  But good luck, I hope they are successfull.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on June 11, 2009, 11:39:38 AM
Quotemaintaining baseball for the coming 2009-2010 season will require $50,000 and continuing men's tennis for another year will require $40,000. As I've said, these funds will need to be in hand by September 1st.

It was this statement here that led me to believe the Chancellor wants cash, not pledges.  I could be wrong, but I don't think he's bringing the program back based on promises.

Donations almost never get sent back. I suspect those funds would go to the general foundation fund.  If you read the fine print of just about any college's foundation you'll find that they have no obligation to return donations in just about any situation.  I've seen a school raise $100,000 for a new Fine Arts building and then simply say, "Thank you for your donation, but we've decided not to postpone the construction of the building at this time."  They're still waiting for it.

Sometimes they do return donations for good P.R. (and because they might have a conscience) but they don't have to.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 11, 2009, 03:47:21 PM
Dott is the only WIAC player taken in the MLB draft.  #949, 31st round to Tampa Bay
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 11, 2009, 07:46:36 PM
From NCAA.org

Wisconsin La Crosse delays sport sponsorship decision (http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?key=/ncaa/ncaa/ncaa+news/ncaa+news+online/2009/division+iii/wisconsin-la+crosse+delays+sport+sponsorship+decision_061109ncaanews)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 11, 2009, 09:04:43 PM
One comment on Pool B...

Pool B is shrinking.

Please follow my discussions on the Pool B boards.

By 2012, I think that Pool B will be Chapman, the E8, the UAA and the 6-member WIAC plus a few more.

The consolidation and growth of conferences is making the access ratio that determines Pool B even higher.

I think that it goes above 1:8.68 next season which will mean that the threshold to gain a bid becomes 9 schools for 1 bid, 18 for 2 bids, 27 for 3bids,  35 schools for 4 bids, 44 for 5 bids and 53 schools for 6.

HIckory cornhusker may be right and the WIAC watches what happens between now and late spring 2011 to consider staying in Pool A and whether to take on affiliate Finlandia.

(Affiliation agreements are taking schools out of Pool B and into Pool A.  I keep wondering when the CUNYAC and the NECC are going to sign an affiliation agreement and remove another 10 schools from Pool B.)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 17, 2009, 12:19:29 PM
Aaron Dott has signed a professional contract with the Tampa Bay Devil Rays.  Good luck to him though I have to admit I was hoping the money wouldn't be enough, he'd elect to return for his senior season and re-enter the draft next year.  So it goes.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on June 17, 2009, 04:23:36 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on June 17, 2009, 12:19:29 PM
Aaron Dott has signed a professional contract with the Tampa Bay Devil Rays.  Good luck to him though I have to admit I was hoping the money wouldn't be enough, he'd elect to return for his senior season and re-enter the draft next year.  So it goes.   

Im guessing the money isnt much so probably wasnt the reason
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 18, 2009, 10:02:32 AM
I had asked a member of our staff who thought the money could be anywhere between $2K to $30K depending on how bad they wanted him.  The Rays drafted quite a few pitchers.  Of the Rays' 50 draft picks 25 were pitchers, 15 RHP and 10 LHP.  Dott was the 18th pitcher they selected and the 7th left hander.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on June 18, 2009, 10:51:07 AM
I can't see the rays even contemplating giving him more than $5K at that point in the draft!  30K is out of the picture...probably between 2-4K.  but as all who have played before know, the opportunity to move on and play professional ball is a greater motivation than money...to some!  I don't think he would have improved his draft status drastically by staying another year anyway.  He certainly would have most likely moved up a little bit on the boards...assuming he had a good year.  If he comes back and gets hurt or has a bad season, he then risks not being drafted at all and will be left hoping that he gets picked up after the draft!  I think he made the right decision to go when he did, but that's my opinion.  risking the opportunity to play pro ball because you want another couple thousand dollars isn't worth it to me.  Unless you're getting drafted on the first day, the signing bonuses don't really matter because none of them are substantial.  Just be happy you got drafted and offered anything at all.

On another note...very shocked to read about UWL, never saw them as a possibility to drop the baseball team.  Always thought stout and superior would be next.  The frustrating part too is that they always put out a decent product that on any given day could compete...and beat...the wiacs best!  That's a tough loss for the conference in many ways.  If I'm a player on that team I'm on my way out the door right now, no questions asked.  With the uncertainty surrounding the future there why would I sit around and then be told it's not happening?  Hopefully they find a quick fix to this mess, I can't believe a UW school can't find 60,000 to keep this program alive!  There are dozens of budgets that could be nipped a little bit, or eliminated all together that probably wouldn't even be missed on campus, but unfortunately it comes down to the chancellors preference! 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on June 18, 2009, 11:08:28 PM
Agree probably not anymore than 5K, I believe Adian Kummet who went 20 picks before Dott did not get more than that when he signed with the Reds

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on June 19, 2009, 12:01:07 PM
WIAC baseball alum wins a World Series of Poker event, earning $521,991:

http://www.madison.com/tct/mad/topstories/455481
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanBystander on June 19, 2009, 03:35:32 PM
Quote from the linked Article: 
Baldwin, who earned a degree in psychology with a minor in mathematics at Whitewater, played right field for the Warhawks, who finished third his junior year and won the title his senior year.

He said his psychology degree "translates pretty well to poker."

The WSOP reported that a few of Baldwin's college baseball coaches were present, as they were on a recruiting trip and learned that Baldwin was playing for a WSOP gold bracelet.
----------

So Lacrosse can't find $60K to keep their team solvent, but Whitewater can send "A few" coaches to Vegas on a "scouting trip". 

I'm pushing the B.S. button on the "scouting trip" thing and pray to god that my tax money isn't helping to fund boondoggles like this one. 

Shame on the Warhawk Administration!  You should be embarrassed.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 19, 2009, 03:47:48 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on June 19, 2009, 12:01:07 PM
WIAC baseball alum wins a World Series of Poker event, earning $521,991:

http://www.madison.com/tct/mad/topstories/455481


Eric was a really good player and a big part of our success.  It's nice to see he's having success in Vegas too.

Way cool.  Thanks for the link JB.

Save your righteous indignation Bystander.   The boondoggle was paid with booster and camp money so none of your tax money was used.   Also they were actually on a fund raising trip not recruiting.  We have a wealthy booster who resides in the Las Vegas area. 

I've had an opportunity to speak with someone who has first hand knowledge of the deal Dott signed.  Dagger, you and Baseball fan aren't even in the ballpark.  I promised not to disclose the specifics but I will say it includes money, a tuition commitment and the total value of the deal is even greater than my initial source thought possible.  I guess you can never underestimate the value of a big left-hander. 






























Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on June 27, 2009, 03:18:11 PM
Half a million last week, a quarter of a million this week.

http://www.madison.com/tct/mad/latest/456464

Clearly, I've chosen the wrong career path.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on June 29, 2009, 03:11:24 PM
WIAC announces cost-cutting measures:

http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/sports/456626
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on July 03, 2009, 10:36:10 AM
Stumbled across this kinda old story from 6/23 about La Crosse's efforts to save the program. The article paints an optimistic picture regarding the $50k needed by the first deadline in September and a sadly predictable pessimistic view toward the long-term fund-raising mark of ~$350K by May 2010.
The story also details the origins of a Web site, www.saveuwlbaseball.com (http://www.saveuwlbaseball.com), which was set up to accept contributions.
http://www.lacrossetribune.com/articles/2009/06/23/sports/1sports23.txt (http://www.lacrossetribune.com/articles/2009/06/23/sports/1sports23.txt)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on July 23, 2009, 04:28:28 PM
The Nationals have placed Jordan Zimmermann on the 15 day disabled list with a sore elbow. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on July 23, 2009, 05:37:39 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on July 23, 2009, 04:28:28 PM
The Nationals have placed Jordan Zimmermann on the 15 day disabled list with a sore elbow. 

Arrgh!  And right before he was going to start in Milwaukee too!  That stinks. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dgilblair on July 23, 2009, 07:13:30 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on July 23, 2009, 04:28:28 PM
The Nationals have placed Jordan Zimmermann on the 15 day disabled list with a sore elbow. 

That stinks......lets hope its just a little strain.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on July 26, 2009, 01:32:24 PM
Work is underway on Prucha Field.   Looks like a mess now but, supposedly, come mid-September is going to be a jewel.  New backstop, artificial infield, foul territory and warning track, relocated deeper fences, natural grass outfield w/irrigation and several other improvements as well. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on July 26, 2009, 11:17:04 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on July 26, 2009, 01:32:24 PM
Work is underway on Prucha Field.   Looks like a mess now but, supposedly, come mid-September is going to be a jewel.  New backstop, artificial infield, foul territory and warning track, relocated deeper fences, natural grass outfield w/irrigation and several other improvements as well. 
Fantastic! Been hoping for that one.

Makes me think again about one of us being on the chopping block. All of this money is being spent (http://docs.google.com/gview?a=v&q=cache%3ACll5ErNqn9QJ%3Awww.wisconsin.edu%2Fgrowthagenda%2Fdocs%2FCapital-budget_Fact-Sheet090602.pdf+uw+system+building+projects&hl=en&gl=us&pli=1) on much-needed infrastructure. Saying this stuff is more important than LAX baseball is preaching to the choir. But this is silly money. I can't even comprehend how much money this is. But I do understand what $50,000 is. Hard to imagine with all of this cash floating around – nearly 3/4 of a billion doll hairs – that $50k/year is a deal-breaker.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on August 09, 2009, 01:59:06 PM
Troubling news ref: Jordan Zimmermann

From today's WSJ:

"The Washington Nationals have asked renowned orthopedist Dr. James Andrews to look at the MRI of right-hander Jordan Zimmermann's sore elbow. Zimmermann, an Auburndale native and form UW-Stevens Point athlete who's been on the disabled list with the injury since July 19, had the exam Friday and the Nationals did not like what they saw.  The sent the results to Andrews Saturday."  


Bummer
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on August 10, 2009, 09:46:01 PM
Zimmerman out for the rest of the season and likely all of 2010 as well.....

http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/chatter/2009/aug/10/zimmermann-needs-tommy-john-surgery/
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on August 11, 2009, 09:19:31 AM
That's a tough break.  However I have heard it said that after Tommy John surgery players can return with a stronger arm than before.  Hopefully the Nationals still have a spot for him.  He was a bright spot on their pitching staff so you'd think they wouldn't be ready to give up on him just yet. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on August 12, 2009, 12:14:44 PM
LaCrosse baseball saved....for now.

The WSJ is reporting that UW-LaCrosse's baseball and men's tennis programs have raised enough money to continue in 2010.  The baseball program raised $38,927 and the tennis program raised $16,850 to stay alive for the 2009-2010 school year.  However the baseball program still needs to raise $350,000-$375,000 by May 2010 to be included in the school's five year budget.  Tennis will need to raise $175,000 to be included in the same budget.  
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: poly god on August 22, 2009, 07:53:39 AM
Some transfer news. Brent Kakwich and Jon Schoch transfer out of Point. Kakwich to MATC, and Schoch to UW-Sout.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on August 25, 2009, 10:11:56 AM
Stout has a new head coach....http://www.wiacsports.com/baseball/SethMaierStout.html

Maier was a hell of a good player.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan20 on August 25, 2009, 03:00:33 PM
Rubens out all year with tommy john, demmin transfered to Texas, and Kuepper is gone...hope UWO has a good recruiting class pitching
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on August 25, 2009, 04:14:21 PM
Demmin transfered to the University of Texas?  Is he playing baseball?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on August 25, 2009, 06:01:36 PM
Quote from: Titan20 on August 25, 2009, 03:00:33 PM
Rubens out all year with tommy john, demmin transfered to Texas, and Kuepper is gone...hope UWO has a good recruiting class pitching
Kuepper was gone after the first Superior DH last season.....  Oh wait, you already knew that......  ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on August 25, 2009, 06:04:02 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on August 25, 2009, 04:14:21 PM
Demmin transfered to the University of Texas?  Is he playing baseball?
No, not the University of Texas.....  A school in Texas however and yes he is playing baseball.  He had a VERY good season in the Northwoods league, making the both the Postseason All Star team and pitching in the All Star Game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanBystander on August 26, 2009, 02:34:18 PM
Interesting that the UW-O baseball web site lists three stories about Nolan Fadness making the Northwest league All-Star team (good for him) but no mentions at all about Ryan Demmin making the same All-star team.

I guess this shows that Demmin truly has left the program.  This Titan fan is not surprised....  In my opinion, probably a great thing for Ryan & a lousy thing for UW-O.   

Good Luck in TX Ryan!

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on September 01, 2009, 11:36:28 AM
Former West Bend West standout Matt Meisenheimer, who transferred to UW-Whitewater from Concordia University-Wisconsin last winter, will try to earn a middle infield spot for the Warhawks this fall.

http://www.wissports.net/sports/baseball/blog/message.aspx?f=143&id=1059867







Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on September 09, 2009, 01:21:28 AM
Go o www.wdtimes.com and click on local sports for article about Jeff Zielke and the Clyman Canners. With his win on Saturday, he is 25-0 over the last 2 years.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on September 16, 2009, 01:48:00 PM
Quote from: cubs on August 25, 2009, 06:04:02 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on August 25, 2009, 04:14:21 PM
Demmin transfered to the University of Texas?  Is he playing baseball?
No, not the University of Texas.....  A school in Texas however and yes he is playing baseball.  He had a VERY good season in the Northwoods league, making the both the Postseason All Star team and pitching in the All Star Game.

Any idea which school he landed at? If it is a D3 we can expect to see an immediate impact in the program.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 16, 2009, 03:19:35 PM
UWW (http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?key=/ncaa/ncaa/ncaa+news/ncaa+news+online/2009/division+iii/whitewater+renames+baseball+stadium+for+longtime+coach_09_16_09_ncaa_news) renames baseball stadium for longtime baseball coach James B. Miller.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on September 18, 2009, 10:01:08 AM
An honor well deserved for someone who's done more for UW-W's baseball program than anyone else and continues to be significanty involved with it even now.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on October 16, 2009, 11:50:43 AM
WARHAWK FANS

Work on Prucha Field at the newly named Jim Miller Stadium has been steadily moving forward and is nearly completion.  Though there is still some grass to sod the place looks really sharp with the new field turf, backstop and outfield fence.   As a part of Homecoming weekend, October 24th all fans are invited to join the staff and team to get a look at the renovated facility and for a tailgate party prior to the WARHAWKS football game against River Falls.  The tailgate starts at 10:30am with food and beverages provided.  At noon we'll make the short walk to Perkins Stadium for the game and then reconvene at Jim Miller Stadium afterward for a social.  Ex-WARHAWK player Kris Hanson will be honored as he enters the UW-WHITEWATER athletic Hall of Fame.

In other news Ex-WARHAWK player Eric Baldwin is continuing his winning ways at the poker tables of Las Vegas.  Eric was his high school's valdictorian and graduated Sum Cum Lode from UW-W.  Brains and cunning are a scarey combination.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on October 16, 2009, 01:31:43 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on October 16, 2009, 11:50:43 AM
WARHAWK FANS
In other news Ex-WARHAWK player Eric Baldwin is continuing his winning ways at the poker tables of Las Vegas.  Eric was his high school's valdictorian and graduated Sum Cum Lode from UW-W.  Brains and cunning are a scarey combination.

I believe you mean summa cum laude, with highest distinction, bw!!   ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on October 16, 2009, 04:08:45 PM
Thank you BoBo, that is what I meant.
I thought it looked kind of weird but I was too lazy to look it up. I have neither brains nor cunning so there is nothing to be worried about with me.  I also haven't a clue how to play poker.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on October 22, 2009, 03:44:56 PM
the pictures online look like it's going to be an amazing place, especially for a D3 complex!  Good work by the way on the behalf of uww in posting pictures and keeping everyone up to date.  It's certainly going to be one the best facilities in this region for D3.  UW-Milwaukee is then process of developing a new stadium and complex that would rank it as one of the best in the midwest at any level!  Nice to see things like this being done for wisconsin programs...

...on a side note, has anyone else noticed the poor timing of the lax funding issues and the UWW facilities splurge?  I mean it's not anybody's fault, it's just kind of funny how it all fell into place.  UW Lax almost has to cut its entire program for lack of funding, while during the same time UWW is building a beautiful new complex worth enough $ to support uwlax's program for the next decade or two!  Clearly the WIAC needs a revenue sharing clause...haha  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on October 26, 2009, 10:06:56 AM
I'm glad you put the "haha" and winking guy in there Dagger because now I'm sure you realize how absurd that assertion is.    The administration (i.e. athletic department) needs to make a committment to baseball if LaCrosse's program is going to survive and it's pretty obvious that, at this point in time, they are unwilling to do so.  They've raised enough money to play another year but beyond that it's looking pretty bleak.   I think that's unfortunate.  There was a time when they had a strong and successfull program.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on October 26, 2009, 11:53:47 AM
The adsurdity of that suggestion was absurd....

yeah I agree with you, UWW clearly supports its athletics at a level that isn't matched (at least not in this state) in D3.  It's no secret why UWW is successful in all of their athletic departments year in and year out.  They have hands down best facilities among any other d3 state school in this whole region, which brings with it great athletes and good coaches and the support of the university to better those programs.  Unfortunately for many other schools, athletics takes a back seat to other concerns facing each institution.  It's really too bad to see historically successful programs disappear because of funding issues...those issues though stem from a each university essentially turning their shoulder to it's athletics.  If the school really supported their athletics and it was important to them, they would find the money to keep those opportunities available to future students.  I think it's a cop out, easiest path, for UWLAX to just cut it's baseball program!  It would be pretty easy if you really sat down and examined the university's budget  to trim a couple dollars here and there and still be able to keep the team and other departments operating.  It's really sad to see them go, and see the university fail them in support...

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on October 26, 2009, 02:34:22 PM
Quote from: Dagger on October 26, 2009, 11:53:47 AM
The adsurdity of that suggestion was absurd....

yeah I agree with you, UWW clearly supports its athletics at a level that isn't matched (at least not in this state) in D3.  It's no secret why UWW is successful in all of their athletic departments year in and year out.  They have hands down best facilities among any other d3 state school in this whole region, which brings with it great athletes and good coaches and the support of the university to better those programs.  Unfortunately for many other schools, athletics takes a back seat to other concerns facing each institution.  It's really too bad to see historically successful programs disappear because of funding issues...those issues though stem from a each university essentially turning their shoulder to it's athletics. If the school really supported their athletics and it was important to them, they would find the money to keep those opportunities available to future students.  I think it's a cop out, easiest path, for UWLAX to just cut it's baseball program!  It would be pretty easy if you really sat down and examined the university's budget  to trim a couple dollars here and there and still be able to keep the team and other departments operating.  It's really sad to see them go, and see the university fail them in support...




You hit the nail on the head.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ballfan55 on October 26, 2009, 04:12:17 PM
You know this is the same administration at UW-L that tore down a dorm to put up a new administration and is now saddled with overflow housing, 3-4 students in dorm rooms, because, guess what?  They don't have enough dorm space?  DUH!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on October 29, 2009, 09:57:25 AM
The fence in Prucha Field was moved back 10 feet in left field, 14 feet in center field but only 1 foot in right field.  Moving right field was limited by the location of the scoreboard.

The place looks incredible.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on October 30, 2009, 07:53:25 AM
Does WW have a lot of left handed hitters this year?  ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on November 12, 2009, 02:27:34 PM
Rumors about Ryan Demmin going to a school in Texas were false. He's on the roster for Mankato State. Looks like the Northwoods league picked off another DIII talent. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on December 08, 2009, 05:45:28 AM
Whitewater has the scheduling edge this year. Stevens Point has the toughest road.

UWW gets all four Point and Oshkosh DH's at home. The two other traditionally big DH's  – UWSP vs. UWO – are both at Oshkosh.

That's according to the UWW and UWSP posted schedules. Spring trip are not finalized, but right now Point (St. Olaf, St. Norbert, Ripon, Edgewood) has a tougher noncon sked than does Whitewater (Hamline, Ripon, Marian, Concordia-WI).

This is old news, but I didn't see it anywhere: Point's recruiting class (http://athletics.uwsp.edu/news/2009/8/19/BSB_0819095557.aspx?path=baseball). Looks pretty good to me.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on December 18, 2009, 03:58:38 PM
UW-WHITEWATER selected to host the 2010 NCAA DIII Midwest regional baseball tournament on the newly remodeled Prucha Field.

The letter from the NCAA reads: "This is to officially notify you that the University of Wisconsin, Whitewater, has been approved as host for the Midwest regional of the 2010 NCAA Division III Baseball Championship. The dates of competition for the regional are May 19-23.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanBystander on December 28, 2009, 11:20:30 AM
So does this mean that UW-W is installing lights at Prucha field / Miller Stadium?  I thought having lights was a requirement for hosting a regional.  I also thought i had read somewhere that lights were not included in this renovation.  Maybe Katchel & Co. found another few hundred K in their stockings for x-mas?     Anyone able to clarify? 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on January 04, 2010, 09:28:28 AM
I can clarify that Prucha Field will have lights installed in time for the NCAA tournament.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ECSUalum on January 04, 2010, 12:45:22 PM
Checked out pictures of UWW Baseball Facility renovations.

Only comment, Will cinder block wall field perimeter be a safety hazard for the players. Hope they install some padding for protection.  Otherwise looks great!!!

Congrats on getting the NCAA Regionals @ UWW, will be exciting for the players, coaches and fans, and hopefully bring in a little cash and RECOGNITION to the school and facilities for recruiting purposes ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on January 06, 2010, 03:30:08 PM
Just took a look at UW Oshkosh's non-conference schedule for the 2010 season, and it is not very impressive.  The St. Thomas', St. Olaf's, St. Scholastica's, and Carthage's of years past are nowhere to be found.  Instead, it's DH's against Augsburg, Edgewood, Gustavus Adolphus, and St. John's at the Metrodome, none of which you will find on any Top 25 list. 

Kind of disappointing to see such a dramatic overhaul of the schedule, but who knows, maybe it has more to do with who is available to play.  Maybe those other teams are heading to Florida or Arizona and already have their schedules filled.  It will be interesting to see other schedules once they are released.

EDIT-I see Point is playing St. Olaf before they head to Florida, so who knows what's going on.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on January 16, 2010, 01:08:13 PM
2010 Regional Sites
Central Regional - Hosted by Augustana College at Brunner Field
Mid-Atlantic Regional - Hosted by Kean University at Waterfront Park (Trenton Thunder)
Mideast Regional - Hosted by Marietta College at Don Schaly Stadium
Midwest Regional - Hosted by Wisconsin-Whitewater at Prucha Field
New England Regional - Hosted by Eastern Connecticut State University at Eastern Baseball Stadium
New York Regional - Hosted by SUNY Cortland at Falcon Park (Auburn Doubledays)
South Regional - Hosted by Methodist College at Armstrong Shelley Field
West Regional - Hosted by Linfield College at Jim Wright Stadium
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on January 17, 2010, 10:16:11 PM
Interesting news to report.....  A full time WIAC starter last season has chosen to transfer to Point for the upcoming season.  It should take place around February, but regardless in my opinion it makes Point a better team.  Will be interesting to see how things shake out, since Point is returning their starter from last season at this same position (non-pitcher.)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on January 17, 2010, 11:16:24 PM
Quote from: cubs on January 17, 2010, 10:16:11 PM
Interesting news to report.....  A full time WIAC starter last season has chosen to transfer to Point for the upcoming season.  It should take place around February, but regardless in my opinion it makes Point a better team.  Will be interesting to see how things shake out, since Point is returning their starter from last season at this same position (non-pitcher.)
Tough riddle to crack, cubs.
Didn't think UWSP had many lineup openings. Probable starter for Point, though? Like the Pointers need more help this year ...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 18, 2010, 08:26:49 AM
I'd expect the new guy, or the returner, to both be in the lineup and bump someone else out.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on January 18, 2010, 10:42:58 AM
It's pretty difficult to comment on how much it will help Point or how much it will hurt the other WIAC program without knowing who you're talking about. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on January 18, 2010, 02:25:14 PM
I agree with you BigPoopa...  I think both of them will likely be in the starting line-up.  I'm just not sure which one will be making the position change, since they are both such similar players.

Without giving away the identity (at least not at this time) I think it helps the Pointers, and definitely hurts the other WIAC program, although they have bigger issues to worry about than this.

Just bear with me....  I will reveal the identity all in due time....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on January 18, 2010, 06:59:33 PM
How many years did he play for his previous WIAC school?  If he played for two or more he won't be eligible at his new WIAC school anyway. He'll have to sit a year.

http://www.wiacsports.com/handbook/200910Handbook.pdf

13.5 Intraconference Transfers. Student-athletes who have competed for less than two years are eligible immediately upon transferring to another conference institution provided they have met all other applicable transfer requirements. Any student-athlete who has competed for two or more seasons (which may be nonconsecutive) at a single WIAC institution must establish a (one) year of residency (see 13.3.1) in order to be eligible to compete in that sport upon transferring from one conference institution to another. A season of participation regained as a result of an approved medical-hardship is not considered a season of participation in the application of this bylaw. [Revised 6/1/06]

Also, it's very odd to complete a transfer in February. The semester is at least two weeks old at that point.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on January 19, 2010, 11:28:05 AM
Just Bill,
He will be eligible to play right away this season.....

As far as the completing the transfer in February, doesn't the 2nd semester start on Monday February 1st?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on January 19, 2010, 04:01:08 PM
No. Classes at UWSP begin on January 25.

http://www.uwsp.edu/reg-rec/calendar.aspx

Technically, a student can still register until Feb. 3, but they'd be a 9 days behind in classes, which doesn't seem like a smart idea.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on January 19, 2010, 06:21:28 PM
Ok....  Well let me correct myself by saying the transfer will be complete by the last week in January then....    :D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on January 19, 2010, 11:45:06 PM
Rumors in the wind tell me it's Jirschele from UWO, but I don't have any kind of knowledge or proof of that.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanBystander on January 20, 2010, 10:59:13 AM
No rumors here, just conjecture....Logic would tell me that Jay Fanta from LAX would be the prime candidate simply because:
1.  He was a Freshman last year - wouldn't have to sit a season.
2.  Full time starter who would instantly help any team he goes go.
3.  LAX is not be the place a good ballplayer would want to be right now with the tenuous situation of their program.

This is only my GUESS based on the logic I listed above.  I could be totally off base (pun intended).   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on January 20, 2010, 12:50:06 PM
Former Warhawk baseball player gives gift of light to Prucha Field

http://www.uww.edu/marketingandmedia/news_releases/2010_01_eric_baldwin_prucha_field_donation.php
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 20, 2010, 01:33:26 PM
Quote from: TitanBystander on January 20, 2010, 10:59:13 AM
No rumors here, just conjecture....Logic would tell me that Jay Fanta from LAX would be the prime candidate simply because:
1.  He was a Freshman last year - wouldn't have to sit a season.
2.  Full time starter who would instantly help any team he goes go.
3.  LAX is not be the place a good ballplayer would want to be right now with the tenuous situation of their program.

This is only my GUESS based on the logic I listed above.  I could be totally off base (pun intended).   

That is EXACTLY who I was thinking of too. Makes Stevens Point an instant contender if it's true.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on January 21, 2010, 09:51:50 AM
I will not release the identity of our mystery transfer, but for those with nothing better to do but try and figure this out, I can tell you that it is not Fanta from lax.  That's all I'm chiming in with so don't ask who it is because I will not tell you :) 

Just thought I would make it interesting...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 21, 2010, 10:24:36 AM
Seeing as how you are an Oshkosh guy, I will take a guess that one of the Titans is packing his bags for the move.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on January 21, 2010, 10:49:25 AM
Actually he's a Point guy, although in his earlier years he would have been considered a Whitewater guy....  ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 21, 2010, 12:25:12 PM
Quote from: cubs on January 21, 2010, 10:49:25 AM
Actually he's a Point guy, although in his earlier years he would have been considered a Whitewater guy....  ;D

Sorry, you are right. I forgot he was a Point guy:) My bad. Point, Oshkosh, Whitewater... what's the difference when you are a Carthage supporter like me?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on January 22, 2010, 11:14:47 AM
Quote from: Barber Greene on January 20, 2010, 12:50:06 PM
Former Warhawk baseball player gives gift of light to Prucha Field

http://www.uww.edu/marketingandmedia/news_releases/2010_01_eric_baldwin_prucha_field_donation.php

Just what the rest of the WIAC wants to see...the rich getting richer.  ;)   ;D

Glad to see he's parting with a portion of his poker money and giving back to the university
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BrewCrew88 on January 22, 2010, 01:05:54 PM
Who will be catching for WW this year now that Coe had tommy john surgery in september?  Also, is Donovan playing baseball again for them now that football is over with for hiim?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on January 25, 2010, 12:50:44 PM
I have confirmed the identity of the mystery transfer.  However I don't want to ruin Dagger's surprise so all I'll say that one poster has made a pretty good guess despite having no direct knowledge of the fact. 

Donovan is playing baseball this season.  Stine will also be back.

Big Poppa, not that it matters but Point was already a contender.  The transfer will probably help them but they're a contenter with or without him.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on January 26, 2010, 11:58:08 AM
Come on BW!!!!  Don't I get a little bit of credit for breaking the news first!  :D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 26, 2010, 01:46:39 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on January 25, 2010, 12:50:44 PM
Big Poppa, not that it matters but Point was already a contender.  The transfer will probably help them but they're a contenter with or without him.

I agree 100%. The added transfer really makes them a threat on the national level though. I am very high on Point this season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on January 26, 2010, 08:26:19 PM
Quote from: cubs on January 26, 2010, 11:58:08 AM
Come on BW!!!!  Don't I get a little bit of credit for breaking the news first!  :D

Sorry about that cubs.  Initially I thought it was you but when I paged back I saw Dagger's post and thought it was the first. 

The preseason D3baseball.com Top 25 poll is out.  Point is the only WIAC team to crack the top 25 checking in at #18.WHITEWATER is just off the radar at #29th and Oshkosh is also mentioned at #40th. 
http://d3baseball.com/top25/2010/week-0

Ex-WARHAWK outfielder Eric Baldwin is doing quite well as a professional poker player.  Here's some information I recently came across....

     Upon graduation Baldwin entered the world of professional poker playing and, in 2008,
moved to Las Vegas.  He won four major tournaments in 2009, earning $1.5 million, and being
named Player of the Year by Cardplayer Magazine.  In the past four years he has won nearly $3
million.
     Recently Baldwin signed a sponsorship deal with the website Ultimate Bet, www.UB.net, and
will be appearing on NBC's Heads-Up Championship in April.


I remember telling his father that I thought he was nuts for becoming a professional poker player.  I was really on top of that one.  :D
     .
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on January 31, 2010, 11:59:25 PM
Stout's the first to post a roster (http://athletics.uwstout.edu/roster.aspx?path=baseball). Two nice transfers – Jon Schoch, UWSP; Jake Duske, Upper Iowa. Good to see nine frosh pitchers. Saw only one of them in HS, and he was pretty good.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ballfan55 on February 01, 2010, 09:59:32 AM
So is Jirschele at Point?   I am not so certain how excited he was to be going to Oshkosh in the first place.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on February 01, 2010, 11:24:26 AM
Quote from: jbeeeb on February 01, 2010, 09:59:32 AM
So is Jirschele at Point?   I am not so certain how excited he was to be going to Oshkosh in the first place.

I would tell you but it's secret and if I did I'd have to kill you.  :D  ;)

Here's an interesting article about Eric Baldwin's contribution to the WARHAWK baseball program and his poker career.

http://www.uww.edu/marketingandmedia/news_releases/2010_01_eric_baldwin_prucha_field_donation.php
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on February 01, 2010, 11:58:43 AM
Gee BW, that looks strangely similar to this post from January 20.   :D

Quote from: Barber Greene on January 20, 2010, 12:50:06 PM
Former Warhawk baseball player gives gift of light to Prucha Field

http://www.uww.edu/marketingandmedia/news_releases/2010_01_eric_baldwin_prucha_field_donation.php
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on February 01, 2010, 12:48:17 PM
By golly I guess it does.  DOH! 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanBystander on February 01, 2010, 02:33:35 PM
Quote from: jbeeeb on February 01, 2010, 09:59:32 AM
I am not so certain how excited he was to be going to Oshkosh in the first place.

Interesting---Care to elaborate?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: wwballfan00 on February 01, 2010, 09:15:07 PM
The word around Whitewater is that coe is 3/4 done with his rehab program and will be in full swing this year behind the dish. another quick  come back just like his brother.... no worries
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 02, 2010, 11:21:04 AM
Quote from: TitanBystander on February 01, 2010, 02:33:35 PM
Quote from: jbeeeb on February 01, 2010, 09:59:32 AM
I am not so certain how excited he was to be going to Oshkosh in the first place.
Interesting---Care to elaborate?
I would LOVE to hear jbeeb elaborate as well.... 

But when a guy starts out his sentence with "I am not so certain" that right there tells me he really isn't sure about anything he is about to say and it likely doesn't hold much weight anyway..... ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 02, 2010, 11:28:25 AM
Quote from: OshDude on January 31, 2010, 11:59:25 PM
Stout's the first to post a roster (http://athletics.uwstout.edu/roster.aspx?path=baseball). Two nice transfers – Jon Schoch, UWSP; Jake Duske, Upper Iowa. Good to see nine frosh pitchers. Saw only one of them in HS, and he was pretty good.
The two names that jump out at me are Hamman from Marathon and Britts from Nekoosa.  Both of them were SOLID high school pitchers, and if they continued to develop, they could give Stout some innings right away.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 09, 2010, 11:06:33 AM
Quote from: cubs on January 06, 2010, 03:30:08 PM
Just took a look at UW Oshkosh's non-conference schedule for the 2010 season, and it is not very impressive.  The St. Thomas', St. Olaf's, St. Scholastica's, and Carthage's of years past are nowhere to be found.  Instead, it's DH's against Augsburg, Edgewood, Gustavus Adolphus, and St. John's at the Metrodome, none of which you will find on any Top 25 list. 

Kind of disappointing to see such a dramatic overhaul of the schedule, but who knows, maybe it has more to do with who is available to play.  Maybe those other teams are heading to Florida or Arizona and already have their schedules filled.  It will be interesting to see other schedules once they are released.

EDIT-I see Point is playing St. Olaf before they head to Florida, so who knows what's going on.
Well, I guess MAYBE I shouldn't have been so quick to jump the gun on UWO's NC schedule.....  After looking a little closer, they have two dates in March where they are scheduled to play DH's at the Mall of America Field, however the opponents aren't listed as of yet.  Hopefully one of the traditional MIAC powers of years past or one of the better UMAC teams (CSS or Bethany Lutheran) find their way onto the schedule.  In all, UWO will be playing all 12 of their March games at the Mall of America Field, making three separate trips to Minnesota.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on February 09, 2010, 11:18:04 AM
Quote from: cubs on February 09, 2010, 11:06:33 AM
Quote from: cubs on January 06, 2010, 03:30:08 PM
Just took a look at UW Oshkosh's non-conference schedule for the 2010 season, and it is not very impressive.  The St. Thomas', St. Olaf's, St. Scholastica's, and Carthage's of years past are nowhere to be found.  Instead, it's DH's against Augsburg, Edgewood, Gustavus Adolphus, and St. John's at the Metrodome, none of which you will find on any Top 25 list. 

Kind of disappointing to see such a dramatic overhaul of the schedule, but who knows, maybe it has more to do with who is available to play.  Maybe those other teams are heading to Florida or Arizona and already have their schedules filled.  It will be interesting to see other schedules once they are released.

EDIT-I see Point is playing St. Olaf before they head to Florida, so who knows what's going on.
Well, I guess MAYBE I shouldn't have been so quick to jump the gun on UWO's NC schedule.....  After looking a little closer, they have two dates in March where they are scheduled to play DH's at the Mall of America Field, however the opponents aren't listed as of yet.  Hopefully one of the traditional MIAC powers of years past or one of the better UMAC teams (CSS or Bethany Lutheran) find their way onto the schedule.  In all, UWO will be playing all 12 of their March games at the Mall of America Field, making three separate trips to Minnesota.


After looking at the Bethany and CSS schedules they appear to be full so I don't think the Titans will be playing either of them in the Dome.  It's surprising that they don't already have an opponent set to go for those games.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 09, 2010, 11:32:44 AM
Quote from: biggio34 on February 09, 2010, 11:18:04 AM
Quote from: cubs on February 09, 2010, 11:06:33 AM
Quote from: cubs on January 06, 2010, 03:30:08 PM
Just took a look at UW Oshkosh's non-conference schedule for the 2010 season, and it is not very impressive.  The St. Thomas', St. Olaf's, St. Scholastica's, and Carthage's of years past are nowhere to be found.  Instead, it's DH's against Augsburg, Edgewood, Gustavus Adolphus, and St. John's at the Metrodome, none of which you will find on any Top 25 list. 

Kind of disappointing to see such a dramatic overhaul of the schedule, but who knows, maybe it has more to do with who is available to play.  Maybe those other teams are heading to Florida or Arizona and already have their schedules filled.  It will be interesting to see other schedules once they are released.

EDIT-I see Point is playing St. Olaf before they head to Florida, so who knows what's going on.
Well, I guess MAYBE I shouldn't have been so quick to jump the gun on UWO's NC schedule.....  After looking a little closer, they have two dates in March where they are scheduled to play DH's at the Mall of America Field, however the opponents aren't listed as of yet.  Hopefully one of the traditional MIAC powers of years past or one of the better UMAC teams (CSS or Bethany Lutheran) find their way onto the schedule.  In all, UWO will be playing all 12 of their March games at the Mall of America Field, making three separate trips to Minnesota.
After looking at the Bethany and CSS schedules they appear to be full so I don't think the Titans will be playing either of them in the Dome.  It's surprising that they don't already have an opponent set to go for those games.
I'm not sure if there are any games being played in the Metrodome this season....  UWO's games are listed as being played at the new Mall of America Field, which from what I understand does not have a roof on it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 09, 2010, 12:59:51 PM
Mall of America field is the new name for the field at the Metrodome. Once the Twins left, Mall of America sponsored the field which the Viking were the sole team to play on at that point.

I think it is officially called Mall of America field at The Metrodome.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 09, 2010, 01:27:51 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on February 09, 2010, 12:59:51 PM
Mall of America field is the new name for the field at the Metrodome. Once the Twins left, Mall of America sponsored the field which the Viking were the sole team to play on at that point.

I think it is officially called Mall of America field at The Metrodome.
Gotcha.....  So do yo know what the Twins new field is being called?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 09, 2010, 01:43:08 PM
Target Field....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 09, 2010, 02:13:36 PM
Thought the UWO schedule (http://www.titans.uwosh.edu/Baseball/Schedule.html) was set. Noncons are the four cubs mentioned, Lawrence, St. Norbert and Marian. Am I missing something?

Speaking of skeds, check out Edgewood's (http://www.edgewoodcollegeeagles.com/schedule.aspx?path=baseball&) if you have not already. Probably the toughest (SOC, UWO, UST, UWSP, UWP) I saw in making the 2010 in-region masterlist (http://midwestbaseball.wordpress.com/2010-midwestcentral-in-region-records/).

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 09, 2010, 04:05:11 PM
Agreed on Edgewood. Splitting those games could take them a long way if they happen to be a Pool C contender as Strength of Schedule appeared to have a big impact in 2009 for the last few spots (see St. Norbert chosen over Pacific Lutheran).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 09, 2010, 04:13:50 PM
Now that I look at it, St. Olaf's sked may rival Edgewood's.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on February 09, 2010, 05:24:40 PM
Quote from: OshDude on February 09, 2010, 02:13:36 PM
Thought the UWO schedule (http://www.titans.uwosh.edu/Baseball/Schedule.html) was set. Noncons are the four cubs mentioned, Lawrence, St. Norbert and Marian. Am I missing something?

Speaking of skeds, check out Edgewood's (http://www.edgewoodcollegeeagles.com/schedule.aspx?path=baseball&) if you have not already. Probably the toughest (SOC, UWO, UST, UWSP, UWP) I saw in making the 2010 in-region masterlist (http://midwestbaseball.wordpress.com/2010-midwestcentral-in-region-records/).


Not to mention Emory for an out-of-region DH.  Sheesh.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 10, 2010, 11:27:01 AM
Quote from: OshDude on February 09, 2010, 02:13:36 PM
Thought the UWO schedule (http://www.titans.uwosh.edu/Baseball/Schedule.html) was set. Noncons are the four cubs mentioned, Lawrence, St. Norbert and Marian. Am I missing something?

Speaking of skeds, check out Edgewood's (http://www.edgewoodcollegeeagles.com/schedule.aspx?path=baseball&) if you have not already. Probably the toughest (SOC, UWO, UST, UWSP, UWP) I saw in making the 2010 in-region masterlist (http://midwestbaseball.wordpress.com/2010-midwestcentral-in-region-records/).
I was looking at their 2010 Practice Schedule, and saw the two "DH vs TBA's".  Here is the link:

http://www.titans.uwosh.edu/Baseball/PracticeSchedule.html

If they add those two DH's, that puts them at 42 games...  For some reason I thought 40 games was the maximum that is allowed going into the WIAC Tournament.
Title: UWSP favored to go to the World Series?
Post by: baseballfreak32 on February 10, 2010, 06:09:41 PM
Will UW-Stevens Point with their very very strong program advance to the World Series?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on February 10, 2010, 06:46:31 PM
Quote from: baseballfreak32 on February 10, 2010, 06:11:28 PM
Hey I just read an article on how UWSP and St.Thomas will be favored to go the 2010 World Series in Appleton. What do you guys think about this?
Link?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 10, 2010, 09:01:39 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on February 10, 2010, 06:46:31 PM
Quote from: baseballfreak32 on February 10, 2010, 06:11:28 PM
Hey I just read an article on how UWSP and St.Thomas will be favored to go the 2010 World Series in Appleton. What do you guys think about this?
Link?
Check the D3 Baseball front page....  Our very own Oshdude did an article on the Midwest Region, and BigPoppa has done one on the Central Region.  Both GREAT articles!!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 11, 2010, 09:29:08 AM
Quote from: cubs on February 10, 2010, 09:01:39 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on February 10, 2010, 06:46:31 PM
Quote from: baseballfreak32 on February 10, 2010, 06:11:28 PM
Hey I just read an article on how UWSP and St.Thomas will be favored to go the 2010 World Series in Appleton. What do you guys think about this?
Link?
Check the D3 Baseball front page....  Our very own Oshdude did an article on the Midwest Region, and BigPoppa has done one on the Central Region.  Both GREAT articles!!!!
Not so fast! There may be a glaring mistake in the MW preview. I was forwarded an e-mail about a week ago stating the 2010 WIAC tourney will be three teams and double-elimination (still @ the #1 seed). I know it was something some coaches wanted. Some people are just so sloppy with their writing. What would it have taken? One or two phone calls to confirm a fact? No wonder why I can't find a writing job ....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ballfan55 on February 11, 2010, 12:37:42 PM
So what region is the MWC in....D3 Baseball has them back in the Midwest.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 11, 2010, 12:54:13 PM
Quote from: jbeeeb on February 11, 2010, 12:37:42 PM
So what region is the MWC in....D3 Baseball has them back in the Midwest.
Where did you see that?

The Midwest Conference was in the Central Region preview on the front page....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 11, 2010, 01:14:07 PM
Quote from: jbeeeb on February 11, 2010, 12:37:42 PM
So what region is the MWC in....D3 Baseball has them back in the Midwest.

The MWC is a Central Region team. They flipped with the newly formed NathCon last year which moved from the Central to the Midwest.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 11, 2010, 01:38:53 PM
Quote from: OshDude on February 11, 2010, 09:29:08 AM
Not so fast! There may be a glaring mistake in the MW preview. I was forwarded an e-mail about a week ago stating the 2010 WIAC tourney will be three teams and double-elimination (still @ the #1 seed). I know it was something some coaches wanted. Some people are just so sloppy with their writing. What would it have taken? One or two phone calls to confirm a fact? No wonder why I can't find a writing job ....
So lets see how this would look.....

Game #1
#2 vs #3

Game #2
Winner Game #1 vs #1

Game #3
Loser Game #2 vs Loser Game #1  (Loser Eliminated)

Game #4
Winner Game #3 vs Winner Game # 2

Game #5 (If Necessary)
Same as Game #4 (Only needed if Winner Game #2 loses Game #4)

I like this set-up much more than last years set-up!!!!  The single-elimination for the #3 and #4 seeds, and double elimination for the #1 and #2 seeds just didn't seem right.  Now everyone is on the same playing field, and the #1 seed is still rewarded for their regular season with getting to host, and essentially getting a 1st round bye.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanBystander on February 11, 2010, 02:23:52 PM
Quote from: cubs on February 11, 2010, 01:38:53 PM
Quote from: OshDude on February 11, 2010, 09:29:08 AM
Not so fast! There may be a glaring mistake in the MW preview. I was forwarded an e-mail about a week ago stating the 2010 WIAC tourney will be three teams and double-elimination (still @ the #1 seed). I know it was something some coaches wanted. Some people are just so sloppy with their writing. What would it have taken? One or two phone calls to confirm a fact? No wonder why I can't find a writing job ....
So lets see how this would look.....

Game #1
#2 vs #3

Game #2
Winner Game #1 vs #1

Game #3
Loser Game #2 vs Loser Game #1  (Loser Eliminated)

Game #4
Winner Game #3 vs Winner Game # 2

Game #5 (If Necessary)
Same as Game #4 (Only needed if Winner Game #2 loses Game #4)

I like this set-up much more than last years set-up!!!!  The single-elimination for the #3 and #4 seeds, and double elimination for the #1 and #2 seeds just didn't seem right.  Now everyone is on the same playing field, and the #1 seed is still rewarded for their regular season with getting to host, and essentially getting a 1st round bye.

So, if I understand this right, it's possible (and very plausible)  for Seed #2 or Seed #3 to have to play 5 games? 

Game #1:  Seed #2 wins
Game #2: Seed #2 loses to Seed #1
Game #3:  Seed #2 wins over Seed #3 (#3 Eliminated)
Game #4:  Seed 2 beats Seed #1
Game #5:  Rematch for the title....Seed #2's 5th game in a three team tournament! 

I thought the reason that the WIAC moved to a single elimination format was to try to get thigns wrapped up in 1 day thereby decreasing travel costs.  Am I wrong?   

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ballfan55 on February 11, 2010, 04:46:32 PM
Quote from: cubs on February 11, 2010, 12:54:13 PM
Quote from: jbeeeb on February 11, 2010, 12:37:42 PM
So what region is the MWC in....D3 Baseball has them back in the Midwest.
Where did you see that?

The Midwest Conference was in the Central Region preview on the front page....

It was, but then when you go to see what teams are in each Region they show up in Midwest.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 11, 2010, 04:59:29 PM
Quote from: jbeeeb on February 11, 2010, 04:46:32 PM
Quote from: cubs on February 11, 2010, 12:54:13 PM
Quote from: jbeeeb on February 11, 2010, 12:37:42 PM
So what region is the MWC in....D3 Baseball has them back in the Midwest.
Where did you see that?

The Midwest Conference was in the Central Region preview on the front page....

It was, but then when you go to see what teams are in each Region they show up in Midwest.
I think it is a small clerical error. They may not have moved over on the website from region to region, but they (MWC) are currently in the Central. I'll let Jim know and he can move it when he gets a chance.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 12, 2010, 10:14:01 AM
Quote from: TitanBystander on February 11, 2010, 02:23:52 PM
So, if I understand this right, it's possible (and very plausible)  for Seed #2 or Seed #3 to have to play 5 games? 

Game #1:  Seed #2 wins
Game #2: Seed #2 loses to Seed #1
Game #3:  Seed #2 wins over Seed #3 (#3 Eliminated)
Game #4:  Seed 2 beats Seed #1
Game #5:  Rematch for the title....Seed #2's 5th game in a three team tournament! 

I thought the reason that the WIAC moved to a single elimination format was to try to get thigns wrapped up in 1 day thereby decreasing travel costs.  Am I wrong?
Would that mean it would have to be a 3-day tournament then? 

I know during the post-season that the NCAA only allows teams to play two games per day, but maybe that only starts with Regional play?

I hadn't heard anything rtegarding the bolded part....  Even last year with the #3 and #4 seeds having single-elimination, it was still a two-day tournament.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on February 17, 2010, 12:16:37 PM
in response to points schedule...it's a typical start of the season for the pointers, being that it is loaded with great teams again.  Hands down the hardest schedule for any team in the midwest.  I think they will be extremely happy with a 12-4 record going into the WIAC portion of their schedule.  I'm going with splits against, olaf, otterbein, and trinity, and then one unexpected loss (in that scenario) in there for good measure.  They could very well come out 10-6 and still be in really good standing in my opinion.  It will be the typical start that will have people doubting the team, because they lost one run games to the best teams in the country, while other WIAC schools go and beat up terrible teams to start out 10-0.  Playing competition like this in the early part of the season is a great thing to do to prepare the team for big games down the road, not to mention it lets you know where your team stands on a national level by going up against the best.  I think 10-6 leaves them in great position heading into conference games and is a very realistic goal, I think anything less than that would be a disappointing start for a team that has high expectations, although I'm hesitant to say that 10-6 or worse would be something that would write them off!  They could very well come back 6-10 and end up just fine in the long run, something that was not uncommon in the years past.  so it's hard to say, I think 10-6 is a good target for them, 12-4 would be a great start, worse than 10-6 would be troublesome but no reason to panic given the past history of poor starts and great finishes.  Time will tell, should be an exciting year for the Dawgs!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on February 17, 2010, 04:36:21 PM
Quote from: Dagger on February 17, 2010, 12:16:37 PM
in response to points schedule...it's a typical start of the season for the pointers, being that it is loaded with great teams again.  Hands down the hardest schedule for any team in the midwest.  I think they will be extremely happy with a 12-4 record going into the WIAC portion of their schedule.  I'm going with splits against, olaf, otterbein, and trinity, and then one unexpected loss (in that scenario) in there for good measure.  They could very well come out 10-6 and still be in really good standing in my opinion.  It will be the typical start that will have people doubting the team, because they lost one run games to the best teams in the country, while other WIAC schools go and beat up terrible teams to start out 10-0.  Playing competition like this in the early part of the season is a great thing to do to prepare the team for big games down the road, not to mention it lets you know where your team stands on a national level by going up against the best.  I think 10-6 leaves them in great position heading into conference games and is a very realistic goal, I think anything less than that would be a disappointing start for a team that has high expectations, although I'm hesitant to say that 10-6 or worse would be something that would write them off!  They could very well come back 6-10 and end up just fine in the long run, something that was not uncommon in the years past.  so it's hard to say, I think 10-6 is a good target for them, 12-4 would be a great start, worse than 10-6 would be troublesome but no reason to panic given the past history of poor starts and great finishes.  Time will tell, should be an exciting year for the Dawgs!

The ability to schedule tough competition is one reason why having a conference AQ is soooo nice!  You can schedule the tough teams, get your team ready for conference and playoff competition, and afford to lose some close games to good teams.  I'm not sure why more teams don't take Point's scheduling approach outside of the conference because in the long run it makes them better. Of course Pool B teams need to find a balance in their schedule as they can not afford to be losing games period, but still need a strong schedule to make it in.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on February 17, 2010, 10:54:08 PM
Love the enthusiasm, but how about we let them (or anybody else in the region) actually play a game first.  If I had a nickel for everytime the most talented team didn't win, I could hire Bill Gates to type this message for me.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 18, 2010, 09:21:26 AM
Quote from: baseballfreak32 on February 17, 2010, 08:33:08 PM
Well I stongly agree with both of those posts. Also now that Point has Justin Jirchle and Travis Tuschen (source):
http://www.wissports.net/PLAYGROUND/tm.aspx?&m=1114228&mpage=1

Well now Point is absolutely going to just blowout Oshkosh and Whitewater and the rest of the WIAC teams. So Point is going to the World Sereies. They might not have went since 2006,and 2007, but now that Point is stacked it is going to happen again. They also might not have went last year or in 2008, just as I said before TALENT. And yeas we all know that St.Thomas beat UWSP last year and went on to win the World Series. St.Thomas will not even be a problem for Point this year. If St.Thomas was not in last years Oshkosh regional Point would have went to the World Series last year. But now in the Whitewater regional this year that will be tough for Point if St.Thomas is in that regional. But not as tough as it was last year for the Pointers because now they are completely stacked. If St.Thomas is not in the Whitewater regional then UWSP is deffinetly going to Appleton. It should be interesting in the St.Olaf game at the Metrodome March 9th for the Pointers. Get ready Point you're heading to Appleton.

You are a complete moron. For being a Pointers fan, you have just put the biggest target on their back. Nice work.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 18, 2010, 09:32:41 AM
Quote from: biggio34 on February 17, 2010, 04:36:21 PM
Quote from: Dagger on February 17, 2010, 12:16:37 PM
in response to points schedule...it's a typical start of the season for the pointers, being that it is loaded with great teams again.  Hands down the hardest schedule for any team in the midwest.  I think they will be extremely happy with a 12-4 record going into the WIAC portion of their schedule.  I'm going with splits against, olaf, otterbein, and trinity, and then one unexpected loss (in that scenario) in there for good measure.  They could very well come out 10-6 and still be in really good standing in my opinion.  It will be the typical start that will have people doubting the team, because they lost one run games to the best teams in the country, while other WIAC schools go and beat up terrible teams to start out 10-0.  Playing competition like this in the early part of the season is a great thing to do to prepare the team for big games down the road, not to mention it lets you know where your team stands on a national level by going up against the best.  I think 10-6 leaves them in great position heading into conference games and is a very realistic goal, I think anything less than that would be a disappointing start for a team that has high expectations, although I'm hesitant to say that 10-6 or worse would be something that would write them off!  They could very well come back 6-10 and end up just fine in the long run, something that was not uncommon in the years past.  so it's hard to say, I think 10-6 is a good target for them, 12-4 would be a great start, worse than 10-6 would be troublesome but no reason to panic given the past history of poor starts and great finishes.  Time will tell, should be an exciting year for the Dawgs!

The ability to schedule tough competition is one reason why having a conference AQ is soooo nice!  You can schedule the tough teams, get your team ready for conference and playoff competition, and afford to lose some close games to good teams.  I'm not sure why more teams don't take Point's scheduling approach outside of the conference because in the long run it makes them better. Of course Pool B teams need to find a balance in their schedule as they can not afford to be losing games period, but still need a strong schedule to make it in.
I'm still not in awe of Point's schedule. I think I wrote the same thing last year. Trinity and W&J are very good tests (not sold on those Otterbein games being marquee), but they don't mean anything tangible. Outside of the very gutsy St. Olaf DH to open up, there's not much. I'm also with you on the SNC and Ripon games; both should be nice OWP boosters. But I don't think you can judge a schedule on nonregional games. Besides the "measuring stick vs. nationally respected programs" theory, there's not much to those games.

Granted, Point's in-region schedule (http://midwestbaseball.wordpress.com/2010-midwestcentral-in-region-records/) is tougher than Whitewater's or Oshkosh's, but I don't think it's any tougher than Platteville's. It's definitely not tougher than those of St. Scholastica, Edgewood, Rockford, Aurora, St. Olaf and St. Thomas to name several. Those teams are playing tough games that count. Then again Point's noncons could be DH's vs. the top five teams in the preseason poll and I'd feel the same way.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on February 18, 2010, 01:01:26 PM
I don't see any reason to play out the season.  Just give the Pointer the title and let the rest of the WIAC save the money.  Perhaps it could be donated to LaCrosse and save their program. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on February 22, 2010, 10:48:14 AM
Jirschele is a nice addition but the WARHAWKS are adding Jeff Donovan and Jordan Stine to the middle of our batting order.  If the two have seasons like the ones they've had in the past that's adding a lot of offense to the batting order.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on February 23, 2010, 10:32:42 AM
It will be interesting to see how those two respond to playing again.  I doubt there will be any huge drop off in their numbers from what they have done in the past, but at the same time I don't expect them to be where they were that's for sure.  It's very difficult to sit out a year and come back and be 100%. 

How are the hawks, and any other team for that matter, looking right now???
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 25, 2010, 09:03:23 AM
Quote from: cubs on February 10, 2010, 11:27:01 AM
Quote from: OshDude on February 09, 2010, 02:13:36 PM
Thought the UWO schedule (http://www.titans.uwosh.edu/Baseball/Schedule.html) was set. Noncons are the four cubs mentioned, Lawrence, St. Norbert and Marian. Am I missing something?

Speaking of skeds, check out Edgewood's (http://www.edgewoodcollegeeagles.com/schedule.aspx?path=baseball&) if you have not already. Probably the toughest (SOC, UWO, UST, UWSP, UWP) I saw in making the 2010 in-region masterlist (http://midwestbaseball.wordpress.com/2010-midwestcentral-in-region-records/).
I was looking at their 2010 Practice Schedule, and saw the two "DH vs TBA's".  Here is the link:

http://www.titans.uwosh.edu/Baseball/PracticeSchedule.html

If they add those two DH's, that puts them at 42 games...  For some reason I thought 40 games was the maximum that is allowed going into the WIAC Tournament.
Good catch. UWO apparently found two partners for 3/25 – CSS and Augsburg. CSS and Augsburg already had a morning game scheduled for that day.

Problem is, the CSS site has the Saints vs. Augsburg @ 9 a.m. That's the stated time of UWO vs. Augsburg on the Titan site. Who knows what the deal is, but if KT has it on the UWO site, I'm buying it. Maybe Augsburg swapped CSS for UWO. As it stands, the SID sites don't yet match up.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 25, 2010, 09:15:57 AM
What would teams in the midwest do without the Metrodome:) ? It honestly allows them to save so much strain on so many arms as they are not forced to play 6-7 games a week like teams without a place to play in early-March do.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 25, 2010, 09:30:10 AM
Superior posted its roster (http://www.uwsuper.edu/athletics/mens/baseball/roster.cfm). I don't know much about the 10 frosh. Anyone have insights?

Only thing that stuck out to me is no Cale Tassi, but we knew he transferred to UW-Milwaukee. I counted six transfers for the Supers.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on February 25, 2010, 10:18:13 AM
There's snow on the ground but the new lights have arrived at Prucha Field

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.uwwsports.com%2Fimages%2F2010%2F2%2F23%2Frp_primary_baseball-lights.jpg&hash=40af34564977aa1ff8492d1dd3700e65820b0c27)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 25, 2010, 11:06:28 AM
Does WW have a date for completion this spring? How many games do they expect to play under the new lights before the regional? I cannot think they would have the regional as the debut of their new lights as they often need to be adjusted a bit after installation.  (I only know as my own school is currently installing them as we speak... holes will be drilled and poles sunk this weekend)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 25, 2010, 11:14:55 AM
Quote from: OshDude on February 25, 2010, 09:30:10 AM
Superior posted its roster (http://www.uwsuper.edu/athletics/mens/baseball/roster.cfm). I don't know much about the 10 frosh. Anyone have insights?

Only thing that stuck out to me is no Cale Tassi, but we knew he transferred to UW-Milwaukee. I counted six transfers for the Supers.
Have to admit I don't recognize any of the Wisconsin freshmen other than Cody Breitzke who was an Honorable Mention All State selection as a Utility player.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 25, 2010, 11:19:10 AM
Quote from: OshDude on February 25, 2010, 09:03:23 AM
Quote from: cubs on February 10, 2010, 11:27:01 AM
Quote from: OshDude on February 09, 2010, 02:13:36 PM
Thought the UWO schedule (http://www.titans.uwosh.edu/Baseball/Schedule.html) was set. Noncons are the four cubs mentioned, Lawrence, St. Norbert and Marian. Am I missing something?

Speaking of skeds, check out Edgewood's (http://www.edgewoodcollegeeagles.com/schedule.aspx?path=baseball&) if you have not already. Probably the toughest (SOC, UWO, UST, UWSP, UWP) I saw in making the 2010 in-region masterlist (http://midwestbaseball.wordpress.com/2010-midwestcentral-in-region-records/).
I was looking at their 2010 Practice Schedule, and saw the two "DH vs TBA's".  Here is the link:

http://www.titans.uwosh.edu/Baseball/PracticeSchedule.html

If they add those two DH's, that puts them at 42 games...  For some reason I thought 40 games was the maximum that is allowed going into the WIAC Tournament.
Good catch. UWO apparently found two partners for 3/25 – CSS and Augsburg. CSS and Augsburg already had a morning game scheduled for that day.

Problem is, the CSS site has the Saints vs. Augsburg @ 9 a.m. That's the stated time of UWO vs. Augsburg on the Titan site. Who knows what the deal is, but if KT has it on the UWO site, I'm buying it. Maybe Augsburg swapped CSS for UWO. As it stands, the SID sites don't yet match up.
I agree!!!  KT is one of the harder working SID's in the business, and if it's posted on-line, then its almost a sure thing.

So nobody ever answered my question....  Is there a 40-game limit for the regular season or am I imagining things?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on February 25, 2010, 12:10:16 PM
40 Game Limit with some exceptions that allow a team to go over the 40 game limit.

Seems like lawyers write this stuff to have rules and then the exceptions.
Nothing is simple with NCAA rules just like tax laws.

See Page 126 for the NCAA Publication basic rule of 40 games then read
pages 134 & page 135 to understand rule and the exceptions

17.2.5 Number of Contests and Dates of Competition(read entire section)
 
http://www.ncaapublications.com/Uploads/PDF/D3_Manual0c5a4b77-4ccc-4eac-9ae3-c634b0afb89a.pdf
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 25, 2010, 12:30:14 PM
Thanks Crash!!!

That would then finalize UWO's schedule then, as they are at 40 games.  I like the CSS pick-up, and I would be willing to bet that Kannenberg will be starting that game, as the Titans don't have another game after that for over a week.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on February 25, 2010, 03:24:05 PM
Quote from: cubs on February 25, 2010, 12:30:14 PM
Thanks Crash!!!

That would then finalize UWO's schedule then, as they are at 40 games.  I like the CSS pick-up, and I would be willing to bet that Kannenberg will be starting that game, as the Titans don't have another game after that for over a week.

Rumor on the street earlier in the week was that UWO was having a hard time finding someone to play them in their last double header in the dome and CSS and Augsburg were open to making a switch.  Its probably going to be a 3 team deal where each team will play the other two.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 25, 2010, 03:28:40 PM
Quote from: biggio34 on February 25, 2010, 03:24:05 PM
Quote from: cubs on February 25, 2010, 12:30:14 PM
Thanks Crash!!!

That would then finalize UWO's schedule then, as they are at 40 games.  I like the CSS pick-up, and I would be willing to bet that Kannenberg will be starting that game, as the Titans don't have another game after that for over a week.

Rumor on the street earlier in the week was that UWO was having a hard time finding someone to play them in their last double header in the dome and CSS and Augsburg were open to making a switch.  Its probably going to be a 3 team deal where each team will play the other two.
Doesn't surprise me as I know UWO and CSS have had a VERY good relationship in the past....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: baseballbro121 on February 26, 2010, 01:34:03 PM
Where is Smolinski for Stout? If i am not mistaken he would be a senior this year. Just wondering if you guys know whats up. big part of stouts offense last year. Glad to see Stine back for whitewater though. He is a much needed in that lineup.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 02, 2010, 09:56:04 AM
Platteville's roster (http://www.uwplatt.edu/athletics/baseball/2010/roster.html) is online. Very impressive, albeit small freshman class highlighted by INF/P Tyler Jacobson.

C Brenden Watson and OF Shawn Tobie are notable no-shows. I counted five transfers.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 02, 2010, 12:22:05 PM
Quote from: OshDude on March 02, 2010, 09:56:04 AM
Platteville's roster (http://www.uwplatt.edu/athletics/baseball/2010/roster.html) is online. Very impressive, albeit small freshman class highlighted by INF/P Tyler Jacobson.

C Brenden Watson and OF Shawn Tobie are notable no-shows. I counted five transfers.
Not sure if you counted Wiley as a transfer since he is a sophomore, but although he wasn't on their roster last season, he has been at Platteville his entire college career.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 03, 2010, 09:04:11 AM
Quote from: cubs on March 02, 2010, 12:22:05 PM
Quote from: OshDude on March 02, 2010, 09:56:04 AM
Platteville's roster (http://www.uwplatt.edu/athletics/baseball/2010/roster.html) is online. Very impressive, albeit small freshman class highlighted by INF/P Tyler Jacobson.

C Brenden Watson and OF Shawn Tobie are notable no-shows. I counted five transfers.
Not sure if you counted Wiley as a transfer since he is a sophomore, but although he wasn't on their roster last season, he has been at Platteville his entire college career.
I didn't count him. There was at least one other soph who appears to have been at UWP last year, too.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 03, 2010, 01:42:16 PM
Point's roster (http://athletics.uwsp.edu/roster.aspx?path=baseball&) is online. Not too many surprises, but I thought Luke Cismoski would make the cut. Wonder if Bloom will get Sean Gerber's bat in there somewhere. As if the Pointers will need more offense this year ... but it looks like another nice crop of frosh.

Garrett Bloom and Jeff Zielke are now assistant coaches. Jeff Pieper leaves Rockford and goes back to Point as its pitching coach.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 03, 2010, 01:50:42 PM
Quote from: OshDude on March 03, 2010, 01:42:16 PM
Garrett Bloom and Jeff Zielke are now assistant coaches. Jeff Pieper leaves Rockford and goes back to Point as its pitching coach.

Ironically, Jeff Pieper played for me when was in high school at Wausau West. He is a fantastic character guy who quickly put Rockford on the map as the pitching coach. This is a steal for UWSP and Pieper gets to come home in the process.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on March 03, 2010, 07:54:38 PM
Whitewater's roster is posted

http://www.uwwsports.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball

Notably absent in my mind are Sam Petrasko and Tony Wong

Appear to be a couple of transfers from higher divisions
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 04, 2010, 09:15:18 AM
Quote from: Barber Greene on March 03, 2010, 07:54:38 PM
Whitewater's roster is posted

http://www.uwwsports.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball

Notably absent in my mind are Sam Petrasko and Tony Wong

Appear to be a couple of transfers from higher divisions
I thought Vo was possibly gonna cut Petrasko in the first inning of a DH in Oshkosh last year. He pulled him instead, and I don't think he played very often about a week after that.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on March 04, 2010, 10:23:13 AM
pieper has been with point for the last three years as the pitching coach! 

...
Quote from: OshDude on March 04, 2010, 09:15:18 AM
Quote from: Barber Greene on March 03, 2010, 07:54:38 PM
Whitewater's roster is posted

http://www.uwwsports.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball

Notably absent in my mind are Sam Petrasko and Tony Wong

Appear to be a couple of transfers from higher divisions
I thought Vo was possibly gonna cut Petrasko in the first inning of a DH in Oshkosh last year. He pulled him instead, and I don't think he played very often about a week after that.

that made me laugh out loud....almost...only because it would not have been a stretch for him to do it!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 04, 2010, 11:03:15 AM
Quote from: OshDude on March 04, 2010, 09:15:18 AM
Quote from: Barber Greene on March 03, 2010, 07:54:38 PM
Whitewater's roster is posted

http://www.uwwsports.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball

Notably absent in my mind are Sam Petrasko and Tony Wong

Appear to be a couple of transfers from higher divisions
I thought Vo was possibly gonna cut Petrasko in the first inning of a DH in Oshkosh last year. He pulled him instead, and I don't think he played very often about a week after that.
I thought Petrasko ended up starting Game #2?  The only reason I believe that was the case was that at the time I thought maybe he was injured and that's why he was pulled.  Instead he ended up being in the line-up for the nightcap.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 04, 2010, 11:12:58 AM
Quote from: Barber Greene on March 03, 2010, 07:54:38 PM
Whitewater's roster is posted

http://www.uwwsports.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball

Notably absent in my mind are Sam Petrasko and Tony Wong

Appear to be a couple of transfers from higher divisions
Another transfer that could have an impact this season would be Lawrence transfer Aaron Leitner from Chilton.  He put up pretty good numbers for a BAD Lawrence team last year, going 5-3 with a 2.78 ERA and a 2-1 K-BB ratio.  (Lawrence only won 12 games as a team last year.)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 04, 2010, 11:59:28 AM
Petrasko graduated and Wong will be graduating and decided not to play this year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 04, 2010, 07:06:44 PM
Quote from: Dagger on March 04, 2010, 10:23:13 AM
pieper has been with point for the last three years as the pitching coach! 

...
Quote from: OshDude on March 04, 2010, 09:15:18 AM
Quote from: Barber Greene on March 03, 2010, 07:54:38 PM
Whitewater's roster is posted

http://www.uwwsports.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball

Notably absent in my mind are Sam Petrasko and Tony Wong

Appear to be a couple of transfers from higher divisions
I thought Vo was possibly gonna cut Petrasko in the first inning of a DH in Oshkosh last year. He pulled him instead, and I don't think he played very often about a week after that.

that made me laugh out loud....almost...only because it would not have been a stretch for him to do it!
A big demerit for the Pieper thing. I don't think I ever looked at assistant coaches on rosters all that closely. Bloom and Zielke jumped out and I saw Pieper's name. I thought "I wonder what he's been up to." Clicked his name and it said he's starting his first year at UWSP. Now that you mention it, sure enough. I've seen him in the dugout and on the mound a few times. Combine my apparent ignorance with the internet and what you sometimes get is not pretty.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 04, 2010, 07:15:30 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 04, 2010, 11:03:15 AM
Quote from: OshDude on March 04, 2010, 09:15:18 AM
Quote from: Barber Greene on March 03, 2010, 07:54:38 PM
Whitewater's roster is posted

http://www.uwwsports.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball

Notably absent in my mind are Sam Petrasko and Tony Wong

Appear to be a couple of transfers from higher divisions
I thought Vo was possibly gonna cut Petrasko in the first inning of a DH in Oshkosh last year. He pulled him instead, and I don't think he played very often about a week after that.
I thought Petrasko ended up starting Game #2?  The only reason I believe that was the case was that at the time I thought maybe he was injured and that's why he was pulled.  Instead he ended up being in the line-up for the nightcap.
I was being mostly flippant about Petrasko. I enjoyed watching him play since high school. He did start Game 2, and there's no reason to think he wasn't injured. When one of the fastest guys in the WIAC couldn't beat even me to the wall to pick up a baseball, something is wrong. I think he played regularly for another week or so, then not so much.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on March 05, 2010, 09:30:26 AM
Quote from: OshDude on March 04, 2010, 07:06:44 PM
Quote from: Dagger on March 04, 2010, 10:23:13 AM
pieper has been with point for the last three years as the pitching coach! 

...
Quote from: OshDude on March 04, 2010, 09:15:18 AM
Quote from: Barber Greene on March 03, 2010, 07:54:38 PM
Whitewater's roster is posted

http://www.uwwsports.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball

Notably absent in my mind are Sam Petrasko and Tony Wong

Appear to be a couple of transfers from higher divisions
I thought Vo was possibly gonna cut Petrasko in the first inning of a DH in Oshkosh last year. He pulled him instead, and I don't think he played very often about a week after that.

that made me laugh out loud....almost...only because it would not have been a stretch for him to do it!
A big demerit for the Pieper thing. I don't think I ever looked at assistant coaches on rosters all that closely. Bloom and Zielke jumped out and I saw Pieper's name. I thought "I wonder what he's been up to." Clicked his name and it said he's starting his first year at UWSP. Now that you mention it, sure enough. I've seen him in the dugout and on the mound a few times. Combine my apparent ignorance with the internet and what you sometimes get is not pretty.

yeah, well i can't blame you really.  They haven't really updated anything on that site for years as far as assistants are concerned!  They change the names of the student assistants, but that's about it...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 06, 2010, 01:15:44 AM
Oshkosh's roster (http://www.titans.uwosh.edu/Baseball/Roster.html) is up. Perhaps Rubens will pitch this year after all. Besides that, no surprises.

Good recruiting class for the Titans. Is Christensen the same all-stater from several years ago? Pretty sure it is, but he's the only Titan I'm not positive about.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 08, 2010, 08:01:32 PM
Anyone else have their UWO/Augsburg feed die? UWO was leading 8-1 (Top 7) in Game 1. Kyle Kannenberg had a one-hitter going. EDIT: Nevermind ... got it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on March 08, 2010, 09:36:31 PM
Quote from: OshDude on March 08, 2010, 08:01:32 PM
Anyone else have their UWO/Augsburg feed die? UWO was leading 8-1 (Top 7) in Game 1. Kyle Kannenberg had a one-hitter going. EDIT: Nevermind ... got it.

Could you give an update on these games?  I can't seem to get the audio to work at all.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 08, 2010, 11:01:26 PM
Quote from: biggio34 on March 08, 2010, 09:36:31 PM
Quote from: OshDude on March 08, 2010, 08:01:32 PM
Anyone else have their UWO/Augsburg feed die? UWO was leading 8-1 (Top 7) in Game 1. Kyle Kannenberg had a one-hitter going. EDIT: Nevermind ... got it.

Could you give an update on these games?  I can't seem to get the audio to work at all.
UWO won Game 1, 8-1, behind a two-hitter by Kannenberg.

My feed went down for good in the 4th of Game 2 with Augsburg up, 3-1, on a three-run bomb to left in the 3rd off frosh P Sean Grabig, who finished the inning and was lifted for soph Luke Westphal. Have not heard how it ended.

EDIT: UWO came back to win, 5-4. The Augsburg site has the details. Kanny finished the day with a win and a save. Also, UWO RF Travis Helland left the second game after colliding with Mickey Fadness on a flair.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 09, 2010, 01:39:27 AM
La Crosse roster (http://www.uwlathletics.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball&roster=41&) is online. A transfer or two and lots of frosh following last year's senior-laden squad.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 09, 2010, 09:27:31 AM
Any word on how they are doing with their long term fund raising.  I know they've raised enough to play this year but what about next year and the year after, etc.?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on March 09, 2010, 05:23:17 PM
Quote from: OshDude on March 08, 2010, 11:01:26 PM
Quote from: biggio34 on March 08, 2010, 09:36:31 PM
Quote from: OshDude on March 08, 2010, 08:01:32 PM
Anyone else have their UWO/Augsburg feed die? UWO was leading 8-1 (Top 7) in Game 1. Kyle Kannenberg had a one-hitter going. EDIT: Nevermind ... got it.

Could you give an update on these games?  I can't seem to get the audio to work at all.
UWO won Game 1, 8-1, behind a two-hitter by Kannenberg.

My feed went down for good in the 4th of Game 2 with Augsburg up, 3-1, on a three-run bomb to left in the 3rd off frosh P Sean Grabig, who finished the inning and was lifted for soph Luke Westphal. Have not heard how it ended.

EDIT: UWO came back to win, 5-4. The Augsburg site has the details. Kanny finished the day with a win and a save. Also, UWO RF Travis Helland left the second game after colliding with Mickey Fadness on a flair.

Where is Evan Matson projected in the UWO rotation.  I was surprised he didn't pitch at all in this DH.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on March 09, 2010, 05:50:46 PM
Is anyone else concerned that kannenberg is going to blow out this year???  first games and he already was used in back to back games.  That's not easy on the arm to recover from, and I know they have a nice layoff until they play again, but this type of over use seems to be the trend lately at UWO, and then all the big guns are too worn down by the end of the year to contribute like they are capable of!  I hope for kannenberg's sake that they don't do that to him all season long!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on March 09, 2010, 10:23:15 PM
Typical Tommy overusing his pitchers early in the season.  He's good at destroying guys arms just look at Reubens.  He did the same crap with him having him close than start and throw a complete game.  Anyways it looks like another year of no live stats for the Pointers.  It's killing me not knowing how they did against St. Olaf today.  You go on D3 scoreboard and there's no final for that game even though the first game was at 4:30 but every other score in the country is reported.  Anyone have a final and recap of who pitched?  I'm extremely excited about the WIAC this year and really believe Oshkosh and Whitewater should both be in the Top 25 and are being overlooked.  Point will have a difficult time having 4 games at both Whitewater and Oshkosh.  How about Jirschele transferring to Point?  His girlfriend must be something special to pack it up and head to Point with all his brother did at Oshkosh.  I'm definitely happy he's a Pointer though.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 09, 2010, 10:38:20 PM
Quote from: pickleshiner on March 09, 2010, 10:23:15 PM
Typical Tommy overusing his pitchers early in the season.  He's good at destroying guys arms just look at Reubens.  He did the same crap with him having him close than start and throw a complete game.  Anyways it looks like another year of no live stats for the Pointers.  It's killing me not knowing how they did against St. Olaf today.  You go on D3 scoreboard and there's no final for that game even though the first game was at 4:30 but every other score in the country is reported.  Anyone have a final and recap of who pitched?  I'm extremely excited about the WIAC this year and really believe Oshkosh and Whitewater should both be in the Top 25 and are being overlooked.  Point will have a difficult time having 4 games at both Whitewater and Oshkosh.  How about Jirschele transferring to Point?  His girlfriend must be something special to pack it up and head to Point with all his brother did at Oshkosh.  I'm definitely happy he's a Pointer though.
Nothing wrong with a split against SOC, but I'm surprised UWSP was shut out in Game 2. I didn't think UWSP would be blanked all year. Finals were 13-5 UWSP and 5-0 SOC. EDIT: 4-0.

SOC has a paragraph about the games so far.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on March 10, 2010, 07:35:40 AM
I was thinking the same thing about being shut out.  They found a way to score 3 or 4 off Schuld last year at Regionals and I'm doubting this pitcher is as good.  Typical Point though scoring 13 in one game and 0 the next.  Happens year in and year out.  I was shocked last year when Licht from St. Thomas shut them out at regionals.  He was nothing special.  I want to see a box score to see who started.  I know Point has some new guys including Tuschen and Jirschele but I read Kevin Thomas had 2 hits in the loss. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 10, 2010, 03:08:33 PM
Quote from: biggio34 on March 09, 2010, 05:23:17 PM
Where is Evan Matson projected in the UWO rotation.  I was surprised he didn't pitch at all in this DH.
I believe he is in their top four, along with Kannenberg, Westphal and Grabig.  If one more pitcher would have been used, it likely would have been him.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 10, 2010, 03:10:23 PM
Quote from: pickleshiner on March 10, 2010, 07:35:40 AM
I was thinking the same thing about being shut out.  They found a way to score 3 or 4 off Schuld last year at Regionals and I'm doubting this pitcher is as good.  Typical Point though scoring 13 in one game and 0 the next.  Happens year in and year out.  I was shocked last year when Licht from St. Thomas shut them out at regionals.  He was nothing special.  I want to see a box score to see who started.  I know Point has some new guys including Tuschen and Jirschele but I read Kevin Thomas had 2 hits in the loss.
New username, but same old pessimistic comments regarding Point.... ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on March 10, 2010, 03:18:16 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 10, 2010, 03:10:23 PM
Quote from: pickleshiner on March 10, 2010, 07:35:40 AM
I was thinking the same thing about being shut out.  They found a way to score 3 or 4 off Schuld last year at Regionals and I'm doubting this pitcher is as good.  Typical Point though scoring 13 in one game and 0 the next.  Happens year in and year out.  I was shocked last year when Licht from St. Thomas shut them out at regionals.  He was nothing special.  I want to see a box score to see who started.  I know Point has some new guys including Tuschen and Jirschele but I read Kevin Thomas had 2 hits in the loss.
New username, but same old pessimistic comments regarding Point.... ::)

But you have to admit that the username is a winner!  I know I lol'd the first time I read it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on March 10, 2010, 05:09:48 PM
Here's the deal with Point this year that I'm concerned about.  I think Peebs is going to try too hard to make everyone happy by getting everyone playing time instead of just trying to win each and every game.  I know you can never have too much talent but I think Point actually has the most quality depth they've had in years.  It's great if you have injuries but sucks when you have 4-5 great players on your bench.  As far as my username, I'm going to be shining it if Point ever plays to their potential.  I set my self up for disappointment again though believing this was going to be Point's best team since 05 and than they lose to an average St. Olaf squad.  I know it's early but IMO it was a shocking loss.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 11, 2010, 09:01:04 AM
Nice box score for DubDub (http://athletics.augsburg.edu/custompages/statistics/baseball/2010/031010G1.HTM) in its opener against Augsburg. Good to see JD (SB, 2B, HR ... only XBH's in the game) and Stine (2-for-5, SB, 2 RBI) didn't need time adjusting to game pitching after a year away. Dan Putnam added three steals from the leadoff spot to give the Warhawks five in the game.

Only one game, but different year, same old Whitewater. Running, bombing, efficiency on O (3 LOB) and good enough pitching.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 11, 2010, 09:23:42 AM
Quote from: OshDude on March 06, 2010, 01:15:44 AM
Oshkosh's roster (http://www.titans.uwosh.edu/Baseball/Roster.html) is up. Perhaps Rubens will pitch this year after all. Besides that, no surprises.

Good recruiting class for the Titans. Is Christensen the same all-stater from several years ago? Pretty sure it is, but he's the only Titan I'm not positive about.
If I had to guess, I'm going to say that Rubens will not be pitching this season and is just listed on the roster since he was a captain last year, and is possibly a captain again this season.

The one surprise for me was Andy Cordier from FVL...  He was listed in the Wisconsin Baseball yearbook as playing for Wisconsin Lutheran, so to see him on UWO's roster was a bit of a surprise.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 11, 2010, 09:38:36 AM
Quote from: pickleshiner on March 10, 2010, 05:09:48 PM
Here's the deal with Point this year that I'm concerned about.  I think Peebs is going to try too hard to make everyone happy by getting everyone playing time instead of just trying to win each and every game.  I know you can never have too much talent but I think Point actually has the most quality depth they've had in years.  It's great if you have injuries but sucks when you have 4-5 great players on your bench.  As far as my username, I'm going to be shining it if Point ever plays to their potential.  I set my self up for disappointment again though believing this was going to be Point's best team since 05 and than they lose to an average St. Olaf squad.  I know it's early but IMO it was a shocking loss.
Point is TWO games into the season for christ's sake!!!!  Cut the guy some slack, as he has some new players and likely wants to see what they can do in game situations.  It would be different if there was a big difference in talent with some of these guys, but they are all solid players.  Hell, you were upset with Cummings early in the season last year, and he ended up being Point's top hitter by 40 points.  Let the season play out a bit before you go postal.  I can't even imagine what your going to say when Fritz takes the mound down in Florida!!! ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 11, 2010, 09:48:31 AM
Quote from: Dagger on March 09, 2010, 05:50:46 PM
Is anyone else concerned that kannenberg is going to blow out this year???  first games and he already was used in back to back games.  That's not easy on the arm to recover from, and I know they have a nice layoff until they play again, but this type of over use seems to be the trend lately at UWO, and then all the big guns are too worn down by the end of the year to contribute like they are capable of!  I hope for kannenberg's sake that they don't do that to him all season long!
While I understand where you are coming from, Kannenberg had a pretty low pitch count in Game #1, throwing 85 pitches.  With the way he dominated the Augsburg bats, I can understand why he came back to close the game out with UWO not having another game in almost a week.  My guess is however he will be starting one of the four games this weekend against Edgewood or St. John's.  I'm kind of surprised however that Kannenberg didn't have any AB's in the Augsburg DH, considering he was a .333 hitter last season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on March 11, 2010, 10:15:07 AM
I have no problem with Fritz taking the mound in Florida I seen him pitch a few times and he's not too bad.  They also can put Jirsch at short if Fritz is pitching and have Tuschen at 2B and Thomas at 3B.  Point is really going to have a dillema between Jirschele, Tuschen, and Thomas.  Thomas is such a good hitter it's hard to keep him out but I know he can be a liability at times defensively.  I"m trying to keep it under control this year but it's hard.  I just look at this year's team and it reminds me of the days of Wiczek and all the other sticks they had.  They really should not lose more than 6-7 games this year with all the talent.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 11, 2010, 11:21:13 AM
Having Stine and Donovan back in the batting order has already paid dividends as the two went 5-9 with 3 runs scored and 4 rbi.  Donovan had two extra base hits (double, home run).  Also Mike Kenseth is back in the order.  He's a solid glove at SS and decent hitter.  It looks like Coe has recovered sufficently to be playing.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 11, 2010, 04:41:21 PM
The WARHAWKS are crushing Hamline, 17-0, after five.  Donovan, Putnam, Kuhlmann, Wessels and Mullin all have multiple hits.  Donovan has another home run.  Aaron Leitner went five innins surrendering 2 hits before being relieved by Eric Schmitz. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 12, 2010, 09:21:34 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 11, 2010, 04:41:21 PM
The WARHAWKS are crushing Hamline, 17-0, after five.  Donovan, Putnam, Kuhlmann, Wessels and Mullin all have multiple hits.  Donovan has another home run.  Aaron Leitner went five innins surrendering 2 hits before being relieved by Eric Schmitz.
BW-
You are going to like Leitner A LOT!!!  He is a solid pitcher, but with the defensvie and offensive support that Whitewater will be able to give him, it will only make him better.  While Point and Oshkosh are not as left-hand heavy in their line-ups as they used to be (Point with 4 lefties, and Oshkosh with 5 lefties) I still think he will match up well against both teams.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 12, 2010, 09:49:55 AM
It appears that Oshkosh will be starting the following this weekend:
Saturday
Game #1-Grabig
Game #2-Westphal

Sunday
Game #1-Lenzen
Game #2-Kannenberg

It will be interesting to see whio is in relief each day to see where some of the other guys figure in, since three of the four guys starting threw in the opening series.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 12, 2010, 09:57:49 AM
The WARHAWKS swept Hamline easily 18-1 and 13-1 in a pair of seven inning games.   Leitner got the win in the first one and Jason Hooper went six innings allowing 4 hits and striking out 5 for the win in game two.  Jeff Donovan pitched a scoreless inning in relief.  Donovan finished the day 5x10, 6 rbi.  Jordan Stine 3x8, 6 rbi.  Travis Wessels 4x7, 3 rbi and a pair of triples.  Ben Kuhlmann 5x9, 4 rbi.  Dan Putnam 5x9, 2 rbi.  One the day the WARHAWKS' offense goes 34x68 with 22 extra base hits and 9 stolen bases.  

The team will resume play 3/19 in Florida where they'll play Hope (2), Cortland, Salem State, Bowdoin and Otterbien.  The varsity reserve will face Kalamazo College, Elgin Community College and Lawrence.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 12, 2010, 09:59:11 AM
Looking at UW-O's schedule, every single game is in-region this year. Outside of WIAC play, they have scheduled winnable non-conference games which should really help their in-region AND overall record when it comes to handing out NCAA bids in May.

They have three weekends in a row in the Metrodome against, UMAC, MIAC, MWC and NathCon schools. Kudos to Coach Lechnir for working so hard to make sure every single game they play this year truly counts.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 12, 2010, 10:30:19 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 12, 2010, 09:59:11 AM
They have three weekends in a row in the Metrodome against, UMAC, MIAC, MWC and NathCon schools. Kudos to Coach Lechnir for working so hard to make sure every single game they play this year truly counts.
I noticed that as well..... 

Another thing that I found interesting was that the games are pretty spread out.  Since UWO lacks quality pitching depth this season, it allows the Titans to send out their top four or five guys each weekend they are in Minnesota.  Not sure that helps in the long-term, but it will give them a chance to post a pretty nice record going into WIAC play regardless of how strong their opponents are.  It would not surprise me one bit to see UWO at 12-2 or better heading into their DH with Stevens Point in April.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 12, 2010, 11:10:22 AM
Agree 100%. They are setting themselves up nicely for a run at a Pool C if they falter in the WIAC.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 12, 2010, 11:20:30 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 12, 2010, 11:10:22 AM
Agree 100%. They are setting themselves up nicely for a run at a Pool C if they falter in the WIAC.
In all honesty I see them as the third best team in the WIAC right now behind Point and Whitewater.  If Whitewater gets some pitching to go along with their sticks, they are going to be awfully hard to beat.  Point may have the most balanced team, with solid pitching depth and offesive fire-power, despite being shut-out by St. Olaf.  Rumor has it that Koback was in the 91-93 range in the cages during practice, and if that is the case, it just provides more depth to an already strong pitching staff.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 12, 2010, 11:23:50 AM
I see the WIAC:

1. Stevens Point
2. Whitewater
3. Oshkosh
4. ??????

All three could be in the regional... maybe one shifted to the Central (like WW in 2009).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 12, 2010, 12:36:18 PM
Quote from: OshDude on March 08, 2010, 11:01:26 PM
Also, UWO RF Travis Helland left the second game after colliding with Mickey Fadness on a flair.
Unfortunately, Helland suffered a broken arm on the play.....  It just seems the guy has had a hard time staying healthy while at UWO.  He missed over half of the season last year with an injury as well.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on March 12, 2010, 12:50:31 PM
I hate to do this because I love Point but here are my predictions:
1.  Whitewater-  May only lose 1-2 times in conference.  Best Offense I have ever seen on paper in D3.
2.  Oshkosh-  Being underlooked and should be a lot better than last year.  Kanneberg may win every game he pitches in.
3.  Point-  Could finish 1rst but history tells me they won't and will win the WIAC tourney and get the automatic berth.  Couldn't have more talent but just seem to play to their level of competition until the end of the season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on March 12, 2010, 01:04:53 PM
Quote from: pickleshiner on March 12, 2010, 12:50:31 PM
I hate to do this because I love Point but here are my predictions:
1.  Whitewater-  May only lose 1-2 times in conference.  Best Offense I have ever seen on paper in D3.
2.  Oshkosh-  Being underlooked and should be a lot better than last year.  Kanneberg may win every game he pitches in.
3.  Point-  Could finish 1rst but history tells me they won't and will win the WIAC tourney and get the automatic berth.  Couldn't have more talent but just seem to play to their level of competition until the end of the season.


I'm not sure I agree with the best lineup on paper assertion.  I can think of at least two teams from the wiac in the past 6 years that I would consider stronger on paper, and I'm sure there were several others before my time.  2003/2004 was a pretty stacked offensive unit for WW, as was the 2004 point team.  I think WW has a great team again this year, but I would take either of the other two before I would this one.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 12, 2010, 01:14:29 PM
Quote from: pickleshiner on March 12, 2010, 12:50:31 PM
I hate to do this because I love Point but here are my predictions:
1.  Whitewater-  May only lose 1-2 times in conference.  Best Offense I have ever seen on paper in D3.
2.  Oshkosh-  Being underlooked and should be a lot better than last year.  Kanneberg may win every game he pitches in.
3.  Point-  Could finish 1rst but history tells me they won't and will win the WIAC tourney and get the automatic berth.  Couldn't have more talent but just seem to play to their level of competition until the end of the season.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but how can you say that "Oshkosh should be a lot better than last year" this year?  They lost three of their top five hitters, and two of their top three pitchers.  Do you really think the freshmen they brought in are better than the likes of Rubens, Brad Demmin, Ryan Demmin, Jason Fosler, Ben Sebesta and Brock Wetenkamp?  Combined, they had six 1st Team All WIAC selections and four Honorable Mention All WIAC selctions.  You typically don't replace that talent with freshmen and improve the following year.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 12, 2010, 01:34:23 PM
Quote from: pickleshiner on March 12, 2010, 12:50:31 PM
I hate to do this because I love Point but here are my predictions:
1.  Whitewater-  May only lose 1-2 times in conference.  Best Offense I have ever seen on paper in D3.
2.  Oshkosh-  Being underlooked and should be a lot better than last year.  Kanneberg may win every game he pitches in.
3.  Point-  Could finish 1rst but history tells me they won't and will win the WIAC tourney and get the automatic berth.  Couldn't have more talent but just seem to play to their level of competition until the end of the season.
I'm sure Big Poppa can back me on this one, but I will take the 1994 Oshkosh line-up.....
Jorgenson, Lieder, Richartz, Zappa, and Bott were all 1st Team All WIAC selections, while Ulwellig and Stoltz were HM selections.  That means that seven of Oshkosh's nine everyday players that season earned some type of All Conference recognition. 

As far as pure numbers go, UWO's 1995 squad actually put up better numbers than the 1994 squad headlined by Jorgenson's 39 HR's and 121 RBI's and Lieder's 23 HR's and 73 RBI's.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 12, 2010, 01:45:45 PM
Can anyone remember the last year in which the games were played on paper?  I can't seem to find it in the archives.  ;)

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 12, 2010, 01:59:49 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 12, 2010, 01:45:45 PM
Can anyone remember the last year in which the games were played on paper?  I can't seem to find it in the archives.  ;)
You'd have to go back even further to find games played on surfaces "made out of whole cloth." I can't prove a negative, but I find it hard to believe pickle saw his first WIAC paper-baseball game a year or two ago.

I don't think you need any backup on the UWO juggernauts, cubs. You're working in nonfiction territory there. Many of us saw and remember those teams vividly, but only one of us writes fiction based on two games against Hamline in March. And in no way is that a slam on UWW in 2010.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 12, 2010, 02:23:18 PM
Remember??? I do my best every night to forget that line-up. Nothing worse that watching Leider get out on his front foot and miss a ball only to still have it clear the 60 foot net in right field for a dinger.

The 1994 AND 1995 UW-Oshkosh line-ups might have been the best of all-time. Oshkosh had the #1 and #2 homerun hitters in the nation that year and Jorgy had over 100 RBIs. Combine that with the fact that you Jeff Zappa hitting close to .500 in left-field and Jarrod Washburn on the mound!  They beat my Carthage teams three straight seasons at the World Series, sending us home twice and beating us in the opener the other.

That team had four first-team all-Americans on it. Unreal.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 12, 2010, 03:06:12 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 12, 2010, 02:23:18 PM
Remember??? I do my best every night to forget that line-up. Nothing worse that watching Leider get out on his front foot and miss a ball only to still have it clear the 60 foot net in right field for a dinger.

The 1994 AND 1995 UW-Oshkosh line-ups might have been the best of all-time. Oshkosh had the #1 and #2 homerun hitters in the nation that year and Jorgy had over 100 RBIs. Combine that with the fact that you Jeff Zappa hitting close to .500 in left-field and Jarrod Washburn on the mound!  They beat my Carthage teams three straight seasons at the World Series, sending us home twice and beating us in the opener the other.

That team had four first-team all-Americans on it. Unreal.
Actually it had five.....   :D

Jorgensen-1st
Lieder-1st
Zappa-2nd
Washburn-2nd
Mlodik-2nd
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 12, 2010, 03:13:37 PM
Thanks for the correction... it only fuels my hatred for the Titans:) (and the Green Weenies of Illinois Wesleyan).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on March 12, 2010, 05:10:25 PM
How about Point's lineup the year Whitewater last won the title and Point beat them 5 or 6 times?  Frombach, Richter, Wiczek, Brehm, JC Reinke, Polomis, Zimmerman, Schiedler, Hojnaski, Rickert, and so on.  I still think that Point team was better than the world series years but unfortunately the 2 best teams that year were in the same regional.  I was being a bit sarcastic but am somewhat serious that Whitewater is scary and should be ranked in the top 5 in the nation right now not 26th.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 13, 2010, 12:50:04 PM
Quote from: pickleshiner on March 12, 2010, 05:10:25 PM
How about Point's lineup the year Whitewater last won the title and Point beat them 5 or 6 times?  Frombach, Richter, Wiczek, Brehm, JC Reinke, Polomis, Zimmerman, Schiedler, Hojnaski, Rickert, and so on.  I still think that Point team was better than the world series years but unfortunately the 2 best teams that year were in the same regional.
First of all, Point beat that Whitewater team five times, but also lost to them four times, including the one that mattered the most, the Midwest Regional Final.

Second of all, a couple of those names you listed didn't even break the .300 mark as far as their season batting average.  Hojnacki hit a whopping .276, just a tad better than Richter's .275.  Now Schiedler on the other hand, didn't even break the "mendoza line" and finished at .175.  Three other names you listed, Reinke, Zimmerman, and Richter combined for TWO at-bats on the season.  When you said line-up, I assumed you meant the guys that actually bat.  Of all the guys you listed, the only ones that had good offensive seasons were Wiczek, Brehm, Frombach and Polomis, with all of them being 1st Team All WIAC selections except Polomis, who earned Honorable Mention.  Besides Wiczek, the guy that did the most damage was Ryan Jones who you somehow missed. 

Regardless, the 2005 Point numbers aren't even close to the 1994 or 1995 Oshkosh teams....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 13, 2010, 10:55:04 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 12, 2010, 12:36:18 PM
Quote from: OshDude on March 08, 2010, 11:01:26 PM
Also, UWO RF Travis Helland left the second game after colliding with Mickey Fadness on a flair.
Unfortunately, Helland suffered a broken arm on the play.....  It just seems the guy has had a hard time staying healthy while at UWO.  He missed over half of the season last year with an injury as well.
One thing I forgot to mention with the injury to Helland.....  It sounds as if Berger will be moving back out to RF now instead of playing 1B.  Any guesses as to who will be playing 1B?  I'm going to say Kannenberg, as it would get his bat in the line-up and be rather easy on his arm.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 14, 2010, 01:35:12 AM
Oshkosh drops game #1 to Edgewood tonight/this morning 4-3. 

Westphal got the start, but struggled giving up four hits in the first inning alone, and then walking a pair in the 2nd inning.  He ended up giving up three runs (all earned) on five hits and two walks.  Mrkvicka pitched well in relief, allowing just one unearned run.  After UWO had cut Edgewood's lead to 3-2, Kannenberg came on in relief in the 6th inning with a runner on first and two out and proceeded to walk the bases loaded.  An error allowed a run to score, which ended up being the difference in the game, as Kannenberg hit a solo HR in the 7th to cut it to 4-3.  UWO was able to get two more guys on, but Berger grounded out to second to end the game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 14, 2010, 04:37:09 AM
Quote from: cubs on March 14, 2010, 01:35:12 AM
Oshkosh drops game #1 to Edgewood tonight/this morning 4-3. 

Westphal got the start, but struggled giving up four hits in the first inning alone, and then walking a pair in the 2nd inning.  He ended up giving up three runs (all earned) on five hits and two walks.  Mrkvicka pitched well in relief, allowing just one unearned run.  After UWO had cut Edgewood's lead to 3-2, Kannenberg came on in relief in the 6th inning with a runner on first and two out and proceeded to walk the bases loaded.  An error allowed a run to score, which ended up being the difference in the game, as Kannenberg hit a solo HR in the 7th to cut it to 4-3.  UWO was able to get two more guys on, but Berger grounded out to second to end the game.
Edgewood completed the sweep with a 2-1 win in Game 2. Another unearned run allowed by UWO in the sixth. UWO had runners at the corners with two outs in the 7th.

Four total runs and 11 total hits don't bode well. Nice feather in the EC/NAC cap.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on March 14, 2010, 10:05:22 AM
How is Oshkosh losing to Edgewood?  I know they lost some key guys from last year but they still have a lineup of studs.  Nolan and Mickey Fadness, Berger, Eichstadt, Hirosky, Helland.  This team should not be losing to Edgewood. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 14, 2010, 12:22:17 PM
Quote from: pickleshiner on March 14, 2010, 10:05:22 AM
How is Oshkosh losing to Edgewood?  I know they lost some key guys from last year but they still have a lineup of studs.  Nolan and Mickey Fadness, Berger, Eichstadt, Hirosky, Helland.  This team should not be losing to Edgewood. 
You must have selective memory or something....

Helland broke his arm in the opening DH of the season, so I doubt he is going to be a factor the rest of the season.

Mickey Fadness struggled with the bat last season, coming back from a shoulder injury.  He actually only started about half of UWO's games last season.

Hiroskey, while strong behind the plate, hit under .300 last season.

I'll give you N. Fadness, Berger and Eichstaedt as solid sticks, but you need more than three guys to have a quality line-up and win games.  These three guys went 2x10 in Game #1 and 3X10 in Game #2.  Nobody for UWO had more than one hit in either game of the DH.  That's just not enough production to win games consistently, no matter if you are playing Point, Whitewater, or Edgewood.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 14, 2010, 01:17:09 PM
In Edgewood's defense, their #1 and #2 pitchers are as tough as just about anyones.  Krueger is 7-0 in his career and Winters is a tough lefty.  Sweeping Oshkosh is a surprise, but not a complete shock if they throw those two guys.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 15, 2010, 10:40:36 AM
Oshkosh split a pair of one run games with Gustavus Adolphus yesterday winning the first one 10-9 and losing the second one 2-1.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on March 15, 2010, 10:52:27 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 15, 2010, 10:40:36 AM
Oshkosh split a pair of one run games with Gustavus Adolphus yesterday winning the first one 10-9 and losing the second one 2-1.


And the first game went 9 innings and could have gone either way.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 15, 2010, 11:04:39 AM
Quote from: cubs on March 12, 2010, 10:30:19 AM
It would not surprise me one bit to see UWO at 12-2 or better heading into their DH with Stevens Point in April.
Nice prediction moron!!!!  Even if they win the rest of their non-conference games, the best they can do is 11-3 going into the Point series.  This includes a game against CSS, and a DH against SNC.  All three of those games will be tests from UWO.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 15, 2010, 11:59:41 AM
Wow....  Tough crowd today!!!

I "rip" on myself for being wrong on my prediction, and my "karma" takes a hit....  OUCH!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TurtleHead on March 15, 2010, 12:08:17 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 15, 2010, 11:59:41 AM
Wow....  Tough crowd today!!!

I "rip" on myself for being wrong on my prediction, and my "karma" takes a hit....  OUCH!!

You deserved it for making that prediction.   Or it was a renegade Sox fan. 

Any ideas about why Oshkosh is struggling this year.   People were talking about them being the 3rd WIAC team to make the tourney this year.  Now that does not look like a possibility.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 15, 2010, 12:22:56 PM
The WIAC is such a well-respected conference that the third place team will always be in the mix for Pool C bid. Still, taking a HUGE loss to Gustavus on the chin really hurts the Titans.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 15, 2010, 12:34:10 PM
Quote from: TurtleHead on March 15, 2010, 12:08:17 PM
You deserved it for making that prediction.   
Really??  I still think that prediction was "safe" at the time, considering who was on UWO's schedule and how the games were spaced out.  It wasn't as if UWO's schedule was littered with the St. Thomas', St. Olaf's, or Carthage's etc.....  It was full of teams that were either in 5th place, 6th place, 8th place, or 11th place in their conference standings last season.

Quote from: TurtleHead on March 15, 2010, 12:08:17 PM
Any ideas about why Oshkosh is struggling this year.   People were talking about them being the 3rd WIAC team to make the tourney this year.  Now that does not look like a possibility.
They could still be the third best team in the WIAC....  UWO has finished in 3rd place or higher in all but two years since 1968.  (They finished in 4th in 2000 and 5th in 2002.)  Until somebody else proves they can consistently win, there is no reason to believe that Whitewater, Point and Oshkosh won't be the Top 3 teams in WIAC play again this season.  Heck UWO started out 5-5 before WIAC play last season, and still ended up sharing the regular season WIAC Championship with Point and Whitewater.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 15, 2010, 12:35:57 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 15, 2010, 12:22:56 PM
The WIAC is such a well-respected conference that the third place team will always be in the mix for Pool C bid. Still, taking a HUGE loss to Augsburg on the chin really hurts the Titans.
You mean Gustavus Adolphus?  Oshkosh actually swept Augsburg.... 

They have enough losses already without you letting your hate for the Titans add some more on Poppa!!!! ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TurtleHead on March 15, 2010, 12:52:32 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 15, 2010, 12:34:10 PM
Quote from: TurtleHead on March 15, 2010, 12:08:17 PM
You deserved it for making that prediction.   
Really??  I still think that prediction was "safe" at the time, considering who was on UWO's schedule and how the games were spaced out.  It wasn't as if UWO's schedule was littered with the St. Thomas', St. Olaf's, or Carthage's etc.....  It was full of teams that were either in 5th place, 6th place, 8th place, or 11th place in their conference standings last season.

Quote from: TurtleHead on March 15, 2010, 12:08:17 PM
Any ideas about why Oshkosh is struggling this year.   People were talking about them being the 3rd WIAC team to make the tourney this year.  Now that does not look like a possibility.
They could still be the third best team in the WIAC....  UWO has finished in 3rd place or higher in all but two years since 1968.  (They finished in 4th in 2000 and 5th in 2002.)  Until somebody else proves they can consistently win, there is no reason to believe that Whitewater, Point and Oshkosh won't be the Top 3 teams in WIAC play again this season.  Heck UWO started out 5-5 before WIAC play last season, and still ended up sharing the regular season WIAC Championship with Point and Whitewater.

As far as the You deserved it comment.  It was sarcasm.  Hence the Sox comment.  I just find it amusing that you can lose karma for ripping on yourself.

Now the 3rd team to make the tourney.  I meant third team to make the NCAA Tourney.  I have no doubt they will place at least 3rd in the WIAC. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 15, 2010, 01:07:02 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 15, 2010, 12:35:57 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 15, 2010, 12:22:56 PM
The WIAC is such a well-respected conference that the third place team will always be in the mix for Pool C bid. Still, taking a HUGE loss to Augsburg on the chin really hurts the Titans.
You mean Gustavus Adolphus?  Oshkosh actually swept Augsburg.... 

They have enough losses already without you letting your hate for the Titans add some more on Poppa!!!! ;D

Thanks for the correction... Sorry, the Spring-Ahead has me a bit foggy today:)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 15, 2010, 01:27:53 PM
No offense intended but writing a team off after six games of a forty game season is as silly as assuming the addition of a .288 hitter clinches a World Series berth before a single game has been played. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 15, 2010, 01:50:59 PM
Quote from: TurtleHead on March 15, 2010, 12:52:32 PM
Now the 3rd team to make the tourney.  I meant third team to make the NCAA Tourney.  I have no doubt they will place at least 3rd in the WIAC. 
Sorry Turtlehead....  Misread your statement, as I thought you were talking WIAC Tournament, not NCAA.  My apologies... :-[

As far as answering your question about "why Oshkosh is struggling,"  one thing that pops out at me is a lack of senior experience/leadership on the team.  Realistically, your seniors are supposed to carry your team, and except maybe Kanenberg from a pitching standpoint, Oshkosh doens't really have any of these guys.  M. Fadness, Wirth, and the injured Helland are all decent players, but they aren't the first guys you would pick to have up to bat with the game on the line.  When you look back at the WIAC teams that have had a bit of success, all of them had a couple of seniors they could rely on.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 16, 2010, 10:33:36 AM
Jeff Donovan was named the UW-Whitewater baseball athlete of the week for his performance over the three game series played on March 10-11 at the Metrodome. Over the three game series UW-W defeated Augsburg College 12-2 and then went on to defeat Hamile University in a double header 18-1 and 13-1 respectivey.

Over the three game series Donovan had a .583 batting average accompanied by two home runs, a double, and eight runs batted in. He totaled fourteen total bases including a stolen base.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: eccfbaseballer on March 16, 2010, 01:19:07 PM
It looks like Oshkosh, Whitewater, and Point are the top three. Who will finish 4th? And what happened to Ben Sebesta?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 16, 2010, 01:49:42 PM
Quote from: eccfbaseballer on March 16, 2010, 01:19:07 PM
It looks like Oshkosh, Whitewater, and Point are the top three. Who will finish 4th? And what happened to Ben Sebesta?
In all honesty, I think there is a bit of a gap between #1 and #2, and the rest.  Point and Whitewater seem to be a notch above the other five teams this season.  It could be a great race however between the other five teams for two spots, as I believe Superior is improved, and there was only four games seperating La Crosse, Platteville, and Stout last season.

As far as Sebesta, I had heard that he chose to not play this fall.  I'm not sure if they are related, but I also heard he needed surgery this winter so he might not have been healthy enough to play anyway.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 17, 2010, 09:25:38 AM
Quote from: cubs on March 16, 2010, 01:49:42 PM
Quote from: eccfbaseballer on March 16, 2010, 01:19:07 PM
It looks like Oshkosh, Whitewater, and Point are the top three. Who will finish 4th? And what happened to Ben Sebesta?
In all honesty, I think there is a bit of a gap between #1 and #2, and the rest.  Point and Whitewater seem to be a notch above the other five teams this season.  It could be a great race however between the other five teams for two spots, as I believe Superior is improved, and there was only four games seperating La Crosse, Platteville, and Stout last season.

As far as Sebesta, I had heard that he chose to not play this fall.  I'm not sure if they are related, but I also heard he needed surgery this winter so he might not have been healthy enough to play anyway.
Is it a four-team WIAC tourney this year?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 17, 2010, 09:36:38 AM
Quote from: OshDude on March 17, 2010, 09:25:38 AM
Quote from: cubs on March 16, 2010, 01:49:42 PM
Quote from: eccfbaseballer on March 16, 2010, 01:19:07 PM
It looks like Oshkosh, Whitewater, and Point are the top three. Who will finish 4th? And what happened to Ben Sebesta?
In all honesty, I think there is a bit of a gap between #1 and #2, and the rest.  Point and Whitewater seem to be a notch above the other five teams this season.  It could be a great race however between the other five teams for two spots, as I believe Superior is improved, and there was only four games seperating La Crosse, Platteville, and Stout last season.

As far as Sebesta, I had heard that he chose to not play this fall.  I'm not sure if they are related, but I also heard he needed surgery this winter so he might not have been healthy enough to play anyway.
Is it a four-team WIAC tourney this year?
I was just going off of last year's set up, as I still haven't seen anything on the WIAC site or anywhere else about the three team double elimination set-up that has been rumored.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 17, 2010, 11:07:14 AM
The 2010 sport code for baseball shows a three-team tournament: http://www.wiacsports.com/baseball/200910Code.pdf (page 9)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 17, 2010, 02:16:12 PM
Point tabbed favorite by conference SIDs.

http://www.wiacsports.com/baseball/2010Preview.html
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanBystander on March 17, 2010, 02:38:50 PM
From the WIAC pre-season write up:

UW-Oshkosh
Head Coach:  Tom Lechnir; 22nd season at UWO; 647-221-1
Letterwinners Returning/Lost:  14-11
Starting Position Players Returning/Lost:  6/3

UW-O lost only 3 starting position players?
Brad Demmin
Jason Fosler
Justin Jerschele
Ben Sebesta
Brock Wettenkamp
Now toss in Travis Helland (injury).  Seems like a lot more than 3 lost to me. 

Seeing that it's a three team WIAC tournament this year, I've got UWW and UWSP as locks.  Oshkosh, LAX, and P-ville look to be in a dead heet for the last spot from where I sit.

Titans can ill afford to drop "bad losses" this year (like years past) to Platteville & Superior.  Prediction;  Final tournament spot sill be decided the last weekend of the WIAC season between LAX & UW-O.  Series winner plays on, loser goes to the BBQ.     
   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 17, 2010, 03:47:26 PM
Quote from: TitanBystander on March 17, 2010, 02:38:50 PM
From the WIAC pre-season write up:

UW-Oshkosh
Head Coach:  Tom Lechnir; 22nd season at UWO; 647-221-1
Letterwinners Returning/Lost:  14-11
Starting Position Players Returning/Lost:  6/3

UW-O lost only 3 starting position players?
Brad Demmin
Jason Fosler
Justin Jerschele
Ben Sebesta
Brock Wettenkamp
Now toss in Travis Helland (injury).  Seems like a lot more than 3 lost to me.
In all fairness, UWO had 10 different guys start at least 20 games last season....

As far as your list:
Brad Demmin-Only started 15 games, including just 2 WIAC games.  (Wouldn't count)
Jason Fosler-Started 32 Games (That's 1 starter lost)
Justin Jerschele-Started 40 Games (That's 2 starters lost)
Ben Sebesta-Started 37 Games (that's 3 starters lost)
Brock Wettenkamp-Started 24 games, but only 2 of the final 14 games of the season (The Superior finale and 11-0 loss to Point.)  Can understand why he wasn't marked as a "lost starter" since he wasn't starting much the last half of the season.
Now toss in Travis Helland (injury)-Helland was healthy when this survey was likely turned in.

That seems pretty accurate then, to say there were 3 starters lost (Fosler, Sebesta, and Jirschele)

As far as six returning starters:
Hiroskey-Started all 40 Games
N. Fadness-Started all 40 Games
Berger-Started all 40 Games
Kannenberg-Started 23 games, which all came in the last 25 games of the season.
Eichstaedt-Started 24 games, including the final 13 games of the season.
Helland-Started 11 games, once he returned from inury, including 9 of the last 14 games of the season.

I can see why it was listed as 6 returning starters.  That number doesn't include M. Fadness, who started 21 games last season as well, but only a handful the last half of the season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanBystander on March 18, 2010, 09:05:54 AM
Quote from: cubs on March 17, 2010, 03:47:26 PM
Quote from: TitanBystander on March 17, 2010, 02:38:50 PM
From the WIAC pre-season write up:

UW-Oshkosh
Head Coach:  Tom Lechnir; 22nd season at UWO; 647-221-1
Letterwinners Returning/Lost:  14-11
Starting Position Players Returning/Lost:  6/3

UW-O lost only 3 starting position players?
Brad Demmin
Jason Fosler
Justin Jerschele
Ben Sebesta
Brock Wettenkamp
Now toss in Travis Helland (injury).  Seems like a lot more than 3 lost to me.
In all fairness, UWO had 10 different guys start at least 20 games last season....

As far as your list:
Brad Demmin-Only started 15 games, including just 2 WIAC games.  (Wouldn't count)
Jason Fosler-Started 32 Games (That's 1 starter lost)
Justin Jerschele-Started 40 Games (That's 2 starters lost)
Ben Sebesta-Started 37 Games (that's 3 starters lost)
Brock Wettenkamp-Started 24 games, but only 2 of the final 14 games of the season (The Superior finale and 11-0 loss to Point.)  Can understand why he wasn't marked as a "lost starter" since he wasn't starting much the last half of the season.
Now toss in Travis Helland (injury)-Helland was healthy when this survey was likely turned in.

That seems pretty accurate then, to say there were 3 starters lost (Fosler, Sebesta, and Jirschele)

As far as six returning starters:
Hiroskey-Started all 40 Games
N. Fadness-Started all 40 Games
Berger-Started all 40 Games
Kannenberg-Started 23 games, which all came in the last 25 games of the season.
Eichstaedt-Started 24 games, including the final 13 games of the season.
Helland-Started 11 games, once he returned from inury, including 9 of the last 14 games of the season.

I can see why it was listed as 6 returning starters.  That number doesn't include M. Fadness, who started 21 games last season as well, but only a handful the last half of the season.


Point being that the "Returning/Lost" section of the WIAC write up is eniterly misleading.  A passing bystander would look at it & say "Hmm..Oshkosh returns a lot of players, they should be WIAC contenders".  In my opinion, Oshkosh lost A LOT more than they returned.  That goes for position players as well as pitching staff.  They are contenders, but only for the third spot in the WIAC tournament.  Hope I'm wrong, but that's the way I see it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 19, 2010, 01:54:02 PM
Quote from: OshDude on February 25, 2010, 09:03:23 AM
Quote from: cubs on February 10, 2010, 11:27:01 AM
Quote from: OshDude on February 09, 2010, 02:13:36 PM
Thought the UWO schedule (http://www.titans.uwosh.edu/Baseball/Schedule.html) was set. Noncons are the four cubs mentioned, Lawrence, St. Norbert and Marian. Am I missing something?

Speaking of skeds, check out Edgewood's (http://www.edgewoodcollegeeagles.com/schedule.aspx?path=baseball&) if you have not already. Probably the toughest (SOC, UWO, UST, UWSP, UWP) I saw in making the 2010 in-region masterlist (http://midwestbaseball.wordpress.com/2010-midwestcentral-in-region-records/).
I was looking at their 2010 Practice Schedule, and saw the two "DH vs TBA's".  Here is the link:

http://www.titans.uwosh.edu/Baseball/PracticeSchedule.html

If they add those two DH's, that puts them at 42 games...  For some reason I thought 40 games was the maximum that is allowed going into the WIAC Tournament.
Good catch. UWO apparently found two partners for 3/25 – CSS and Augsburg. CSS and Augsburg already had a morning game scheduled for that day.

Problem is, the CSS site has the Saints vs. Augsburg @ 9 a.m. That's the stated time of UWO vs. Augsburg on the Titan site. Who knows what the deal is, but if KT has it on the UWO site, I'm buying it. Maybe Augsburg swapped CSS for UWO. As it stands, the SID sites don't yet match up.
Well it appears that UWO has changed their schedule again....  Instead of single games against CSS and Augsburg, the Titans will now square off in a DH against Bethany Lutheran March 25th.  Should be an interesting match-up!!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on March 19, 2010, 09:20:13 PM
Whitewater 5
Hope College 3

Game one of a scheduled DH in Winterhaven, Florida in the Warhawks 1st game of their spring break trip. Details have yet to be posted.

EDIT: WW takes game two 11-3 - still no details posted.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 20, 2010, 12:20:55 PM
Otterbien canceled their scheduled games against the WARHAWKS who are scrambling to pick up a pair of games.

Limited details are available on the two wins over Hope.  Riley Tincher picked up his second win in the first game.  The WARHAWKS trailed 3-2 after four innings in game two.  Daniel Putnam stroked a two-run double in the fifth and Travis Wessels a two-run double in the sixth.  Eric Schmitz and Ben Versnik struck out seven consecutive hitters between the fourth and sixth innings.  Schmitz was pitching in the fifth so he may have gotten the win.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on March 21, 2010, 05:18:38 AM
Warhawks lose their first of the season (5-1), at the hands (& bats) of SUNY-Cortland (9-5) in Florida 17-9. UWW led 4-3 after 2 complete. Cortland State then ran off 11 unanswered runs between the 3rd and 6th, putting up a touchdown and XP in the sixth. The Red Dragons totaled 20 hits on the day to UWW's 14. Whitewater's defense suffered 6 errors, including 3 by SS Mike Kenseth. Matt Beyer led UWW offensively, going 4-5 at the plate 1 HR, 2 runs scored and 3 RBI's. Ben Kuhlman also had a 3 RBI day with a a 1-2 1BB performance.
Aaron Leiter took the loss, going 5 innings, 11H, 7R (6 earned), 1BB, 1SO. Of the relievers, Eric Schmitz was hit the hardest, 1/3 inning, 4H, 7R (all earned), 1BB, 1HBP.

Games continue tomorrow with a breakfast in Winterhaven 8am varsity game vs Salem State (MA) followed by a JV game vs Kalamazoo College at 11:30.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 21, 2010, 08:19:45 PM
Point's DH with Washington and Jefferson was postponed by rain, after just two batters today.  The DH will be made up on Wednesday, March 24th, taking the place of the scheduled DH against Otterbein.  Point's starting line-up was pretty similar to their opening day line-up.  Except for having a few changes as far as the actual order, it was the exact same guys starting.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on March 21, 2010, 08:31:04 PM
Whitewater belted 7 home runs in their 27-12 rout of Salem State on Sunday. Ben Kuhlmann, Jeff Donovan, and Fred Gromalak each hit 2, while Jordan Stine added one. Gromalak celebrated his first collegiate start behind the plate by going 5-for-6 with three runs scored, 5 RBIs and 2 stolen bases. Several pitchers threw, but the win went to Kyle Lee. They are off until Wed. when they take on Bowdoin in Clermont, Florida.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on March 21, 2010, 08:34:57 PM
Why can't Point schedule Salem State?  Anyways could today be any worse?  The Badgers get smoked by Cornell and than I have live stats up for the Pointer game and find out it's rained out.  This really hurts Point seeing who they have to go against tomorrow and losing the DH with Otterbein.  I'm wondering if Williams will go tomorrow or wait until Tuesday or Wednesday.  Whitewater is looking great with the sticks but I wonder how they would fare against Schuld, Perez, or even Williams/Koback.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: voice on March 22, 2010, 12:02:35 AM
It is great to see UW-Whitewater off to a great start this spring.  As Bobo previously indicated the Hawks seven home run explosion is just the latest multi-home run game this spring for Whitewater.

Since I don't have a real job, I will be blogging Warhawk and WIAC baseball this spring.  I plan on blogging live from most of the Warhawk games once they head North next week.

The Voice's Eye On Warhawk Baseball Blog Web address is:  http://voiceseyeonbaseball.blogspot.com/
Pass the word.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on March 22, 2010, 11:24:54 AM
That's great voice...look forward to your reports!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on March 22, 2010, 04:51:29 PM
I'm not taking anything away from uww's start and the accomplishments that individuals have made thus far, but they have played one real team so far...SUNY Cortland...and they got absolutely smoked by them.  I'm certainly not writing them off, I think they are a legit contender with their line up and they will definitely be battling it out with point to take home the regular season crown...but I think a lot of their explosive numbers will come back down to earth once they start playing quality teams again.  7 HR's in a game is great and all, but i"m guessing there were 30mph winds blowing straight out, so let's not get too excited.  Again, I have taken full advantage of the wind before and you still have to hit it hard for it go out so I'm not trying to bash the hawks here, but I'm going to need a little more time and some slightly better competition before I get too excited about them!  I can say that I've been impressed with both donovan and stine coming back from a year off and not missing a beat, that's hard to do!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 22, 2010, 07:03:47 PM
I don't disagree with your main point and I don't doubt your not intending to write them off or bash them but for the sake of accuracy I just want to clarify the weather conditions.  The weather channel has the wind at 3 mph when the first pitch was thrown at 8am.  It increased to 6 mph by 9:30  and reached a high of 15 mph around 10:30 before dropping and holding at 12 mph for the rest of the morning.  I don't know the orientation of the field but the wind was out of the southeast. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on March 22, 2010, 11:37:07 PM
haha...it's tough to argue hard scientific data!  I just had a visual of some of the spring games I witnessed down there, where you could literally hit it in the air and it would soar out of the park...that's what came to mind when I saw that they hit 7 jacks in one game, that's pretty amazing stuff when you think about it! 

On another note, point took a good split with the number 4 team in the country in Trinity College. Dont really know much about either of the games, but coming away with a split is a win (literally) for the pointers.  it's nice to see they are able to compete with the "best teams" in the country.  We'll see how the remainder of the trip plays out for them.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on March 23, 2010, 08:47:37 AM
Quote from: Dagger on March 22, 2010, 11:37:07 PM
haha...it's tough to argue hard scientific data!  I just had a visual of some of the spring games I witnessed down there, where you could literally hit it in the air and it would soar out of the park...that's what came to mind when I saw that they hit 7 jacks in one game, that's pretty amazing stuff when you think about it!  

On another note, point took a good split with the number 4 team in the country in Trinity College. Dont really know much about either of the games, but coming away with a split is a win (literally) for the pointers.  it's nice to see they are able to compete with the "best teams" in the country.  We'll see how the remainder of the trip plays out for them.

I guess it's all in good fun to question what role mother nature had in producing those 7 HR's - Salem State had 1 HR, BTW. On the otherhand, I wonder how many of Whitewater's 22 other hits in the game were wind-aided, as well? However, considering the conclusion you've reached in the bolded comments above after only the Pointers 2 DH splits to open the season, I guess it's acceptable for Warhawk fans to feel encouraged over their beginning 8 games, too!!

For what it's worth, the Trinity scores were UW-SP 3-1, Trinity 11-2.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on March 23, 2010, 10:04:40 AM
I absolutely think that WW fans should be extremely encouraged, but at the same time I'm just saying that they have really only played one solid team, and that team spanked 'em.  Playing a light schedule in spring can be a great thing, in terms of getting momentum and confidence going within the club.  I never said that the only reason they had success was because of the wind, I simply said I'm guessing there were heavy winds blowing straight out.  I also said you still have to be good to use the wind to your advantage, which would explain WW hitting 7 while the other team only hit 1.  There's no doubt that WW has a stacked line up this year and that they will continue to pound out some big numbers, I just don't think that level of success will be sustained over the long haul once they start playing better competition.  I've played spring break games against teams where getting 22 hits in a game was nothing.  Having been on both sides of the scheduling (really easy spring vs. extremely tough spring) I am simply saying that I personally feel it is more advantageous for a team to play the best possible competition to start the year, and that you can't look too far into any numbers until conference games start.  One team may come in with juiced numbers (as a result of an easy schedule) only to be mediocre, while another can come in with an average record and average numbers (really tought competition), and dominate.  You just never know until you start WIAC play.  In all honesty I'm glad that WW is doing well, I always enjoy any WIAC team traveling and kicking the crap out of people, it's good for our conference to instill that fear into these other teams!  ...of course I don't enjoy them kicking the crap out of my team...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 23, 2010, 10:47:05 AM
Scambling to fill the void left when Otterbien canceled the doublehitter scheduled with them the WARHAWKS were able to pick up a game with Washington and Jefferson and came out with a 12-8 win.  W&J held a 6-4 lead after four innings but the WARHAWKS scored single runs in the fifth and sixth and tied the game.  W&J regained the lead with a single run in the in the seventh however the WARHAWKS plated three runs in each of the final two innings to seal the deal.  Andrew Bauer (2-1) got the win in relief.  Jeff Donovan was 3x4 with 4 rbi and 1 rs.  Matt Beyer hit his second home run of the season and had 3 rbi in a  3X4 day at the plate.  Ben Kuhlmann had 3 rbi and was 2X5.  Jordan Stine (2), Rob Coe (2) and Fred Gomalak (2) also had multiple hits. 

W&J is among the others receiving votes in the D3baseball.com Top 25.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on March 23, 2010, 11:16:04 AM
Interesting that Point has W & J today and Bowdoin coming up tomorrow at 1:30 after they take on WW at 9:30. So, I guess if WW has few solid teams on the spring schedule, then so does Point.  Kind of contradicts your competing with the best teams in the country theory, Dagger.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 23, 2010, 12:18:49 PM
Quote from: BoBo on March 23, 2010, 11:16:04 AM
Interesting that Point has W & J today and Bowdoin coming up tomorrow at 1:30 after they take on WW at 9:30. So, I guess if WW has few solid teams on the spring schedule, then so does Point.  Kind of contradicts your competing with the best teams in the country theory, Dagger.
Before UWW added W&J to the schedule, the Warhawks played one team getting votes (Cortland). UWSP has played teams getting votes exclusively (SOC, Trinity, and now W&J). I think Dagger's theory was valid, especially at the time he posted. Even with the nice W&J add for UWW, I find it hard to believe anyone thinks UWW's schedule has been tougher than UWSP's.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 23, 2010, 01:57:25 PM
Quote from: Dagger on March 22, 2010, 11:37:07 PM
On another note, point took a good split with the number 4 team in the country in Trinity College. Dont really know much about either of the games, but coming away with a split is a win (literally) for the pointers.  it's nice to see they are able to compete with the "best teams" in the country.  We'll see how the remainder of the trip plays out for them.

According to the schedule on the WIAC website Point actually played two different Trinity teams.  They beat Trinity (Tx) 3-1 in the first game and then lost to Trinity (CT) 11-2 in the second game.  Trinity (CT) was the Trinity that participated in the 2009 D3 World Series and is presently ranked 5th in the D3baseball.com's Top 25.  Trinity (Tx) with an 18-5 record is currently ranked 25th in the same poll.   They finished 24-21 last year.

I'm just clarifying the schedule and not debating the virtues of Point's schedule vs WHITEWATER'S.  Actually I agree with Dagger, we'll see what happens when the teams start conference play.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on March 23, 2010, 03:34:50 PM
The Pointers did play Trinity(CT) both times yesterday and won 3-1 with Delorit on the mound.  I didn't see the final of game 1 today but know Point was ahead 6-1 in the 5th and they are down 5-0 with Van Beck on the hill in game 2.  W&J'S 1B has 2 homers in game 2 so far.  Williams pitched game 1.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 23, 2010, 03:42:41 PM
The conference website must be mistaken.  It indicated different Trinity(s).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on March 24, 2010, 09:35:04 AM
Got to be frustrating for point, when in two of your first three double headers you score double digits in the first game for the win, and then come out in the nightcap and get shut-out, or darn near shut out!  I'm going to hope that it's the quality of competition that is rising after the initial defeat to shut them down, but I'm still not convinced that's a good excuse.  Having not seen them play yet it's hard to say anything, but I don't like the trend that's developing.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on March 24, 2010, 12:15:55 PM
Or the fact that they scored 13 runs the first game and their coach decided to put starters on the bench for game 2.  I got chewed a few weeks ago for stating Peebs likes to get everyone in and look what happens when he changes the lineup.  Of course I'm not Peebs but my advice would be play every game to win or as it's to make the world series.  Luckily their splits are with excellent teams so it won't hurt them but if they split with Norbert's or Ripon it won't help them.  It's going to be very difficult to keep Thomas's bat out of the lineup but who do you bench?  Tuschen had a great game yesterday and I don't think you can bench Jirschele.  I'm sure if Koback is on the mound perhaps Thomas could DH although Koback can hit so good.  Why hasn't Koback pitched yet?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on March 24, 2010, 01:12:45 PM
Hey all,
First post of the year for this guy!...Point's struggles in game 2s of DHs are very surprising to me with all of the veterans on that team.  Hopefully they can get it out of their systems before they get back up north.  As far as who you bench?  Seems like everyone is hitting fairly decent right now, it's all about whose the hot hitters when you get back up north.  In Florida you have to get everyone at least 6 ABs or 2 starts in the field, thats the point of the spring trip.  But whoever performs the best down there will get the nod in the first few games up north, after that it's whoever gets hot and stays hot throughout the season.  I'm sure Koback is just resting his body, with a guy like that you don't want to burn him out, better to have him at the end of the year than in the beginning.  The rest of their trip they should be able to do pretty good, they only have one game today so we'll see how they perform in a full 9 innings.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 24, 2010, 01:24:13 PM
The WARHAWKS beat Washington & Jefferson again today by a 12-4 score.  W&J took a 2-0 lead in their first at bat but the WARHAWKS responded with a pair of runs on a RBI triple by Daniel Putnam and a SAC fly by Jeff Donovan in their half of the inning and took the lead for good with three runs in their second at bat.  Putnam went 3x5 with 4 RBI and Matt Kenseth was 2x4 with an RBI.  Jordan Stine also had 3 RBI.  Aaron Leitner got the start and was relieved in the fifth inning by Kyle Lee who pitched 3.1 shutout innings for the win, his second of the season.  Peot (.1) and Hooper (.2) finished the ninth.

The schedule has us playing Bowdoin (ME) this morning and a varsity reserve game against Elgin Community College this afternoon.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on March 24, 2010, 03:53:36 PM
Anyone know how UWSP did today against Bowdin?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on March 24, 2010, 05:46:08 PM
Bowdoin's website has the score from the UWSP game on their website.  UWSP 14 Bowdoin 2....another solid game for the Pointers.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on March 24, 2010, 09:11:02 PM
I think if point can get through the remainder of their trip and open WIAC play with only one more loss, maybe two, they will be sitting really good.  Right around what I had thought a couple weeks ago would be a good start.  With most of the heavy lifting done, as far as tough opponents are concerned, they need to finish strong!  I'm afraid more than 2 losses from today until conference play will not bode well in the future, should it come down to at large berths.  I would guess whoever wins the WIAC will lose at least 4-5 conference games.  My personal opinion is that you need to win 28 games or so to be a strong contender in the at large pool.  I know there are other factors, and scenarios where teams with less wins get in, but just for the sake of something to talk about for now.  If 28 wins were the magic number that would mean that Point could afford to lose no more than 9 more games this season.  take away 5 (lets say 6) for conference games, and that's only a 3 game (or so) cushion to work with.  The way the conference looks this year with all the parity between teams, I could see the champ losing 6 games or more! 

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: voice on March 24, 2010, 09:43:39 PM
I have been with the UW-Whitewater baseball trips both in Florida and Arizona in recent years.  The one thing I have found is "Spring Trip" schedules can often be changed, or games added.  Thus the schedule discrepency involving Point and Whitewater today.  Both teams rolled to wins.

UWW 12, Washington & Jefferson (Penn) 4.   The Hawks  are now 8-1 this year.
UWSP 14, Bowdoin (Maine) 2   The win lifts the Pointers to 4-3 on the season

I have developed a UW-Whitewater baseball blog this spring with plenty of information other than just box scores and statistics.
Check it out by clicking onto:
 http://voiceseyeonbaseball.blogspot.com/

Will be blogging live at all Warhawk baseball games (home and away) this season.  Will also be blogging each week about the other teams around the WIAC.

Check it out!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 25, 2010, 11:12:22 AM
Nice article on former UWO pitcher Jack Taschner, and his bid to make the 25-man roster with the Pirates....

http://pittsburgh.pirates.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100311&content_id=8762948&vkey=news_pit&fext=.jsp&c_id=pit
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on March 25, 2010, 09:50:52 PM
The Pointers dominated Allegheny today 3-2.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: voice on March 25, 2010, 11:55:07 PM
pickleshiner - Pointer's DOMINATED Allegheny today 3-2??  Good win for the Pointers coming back from being down 2-1 for the win - but dominating.?  Perhaps pickleshiner was partaking in too much pickle juice today???  Just kidding ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on March 26, 2010, 07:26:06 AM
Point is going to destroy Norbert's on Sunday.  I'm assuming they'll throw Delorit and Williams.  It's time to put the best team on the field and make a statement.  I have high expectations for Point from here on out.  Quite frankly if they don't sweep Norbert's, Ripon, and Oshkosh the next 6 games I think it's a disappointment.  I know their at Oshkosh but Oshkosh just doesn't seem to have the offense to keep up with Point and their pitching is nothing special.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on March 26, 2010, 09:37:25 PM
QuotePoint is going to destroy Norbert's on Sunday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 28, 2010, 02:25:50 PM
Prucha Field and Jim Miller Stadium have to be one of the best college baseball facilities in the state.  The new playing surface is super nice.  It's softer than playing on natural grass and all the bounces are true.  The dugouts have been expanded and the Kohler Suite has replaced the portable toilets.  The sound system has been updated and works like a charm.  The lights have been installed and are working.  I'm told that when illuminated the field is brighter than the playing field at Perkins Stadium.  The outfield irrigation system will insure the remaining grass is green and lush.  The fence in left now plays at 330 feet down the line and dead center is 395.  Right field is still 320 down the line but the scoreboard installed last year slightly overhangs the fence and keeps balls hit off of it in play.  The new netting which extends above the brick backstop provides an unobstructed view of the playing field.  The only remaining project is sodding which is scheduled for this upcoming work.  I think teams are really going to enjoy playing on it.

The WARHAWKS opened the renovated facility in grand style improving their season record to 10-1 with a double hitter sweep of Ripon winning the first game 11-1 in seven innings and taking game two 3-1.  Riley Tincher (3-0) went the distance in game one holding Ripon to five hits while striking out six and issuing a single base on balls.  Ripon took the early lead scoring their only run in the top of the fourth but the WARHAWKS answered with five runs of their own in the bottom of the inning before adding a single run in the fifth and five more in the sixth.  Ryan Leavitt had five RBI on a pair of home runs and Jeff Donovan drove in four runs going 4x4 at the plate.  Rob Coe (2) and Daniel Putnam (2) also had multiple hits.

Game two was a tighter affair in which the WARHAWKS prevailed 3-1.  Jason Hooper got the start giving up Ripon's only run on four hits and striking out six in 5.1 innings before being replaced by Kyle Lee.  Lee entered with Ripon runners on first and third with one out but worked out it with a strike out and infield ground out.  Lee (2-0) pitched 2.2 innings striking out three and giving up a single hit.  Ben Versnick struck out the side in Ripon's ninth.  Trailing 1-0 in the sixth the WARHAWKS scored three times with RBI hits from Jeff Donovan and Rob Coe.  Coe finished with a pair of hits and RBI.

The WARHAWKS return to action hosting a pair of games with Marion on Thursday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 28, 2010, 02:35:17 PM
So the face of the scoreboard is in play, huh?  That's very different.  I'm sure that's an emphatic point made during the pre-game coaches meeting.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 28, 2010, 03:49:19 PM
That's what I was told.  No doubt that is something that's discussed in the pregame.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: voice on March 28, 2010, 06:39:15 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on March 28, 2010, 02:35:17 PM
So the face of the scoreboard is in play, huh?  That's very different.  I'm sure that's an emphatic point made during the pre-game coaches meeting.

No different than off scoreboards on the outfield fence at Major League ball parks.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 28, 2010, 08:09:25 PM
Quote from: voice on March 28, 2010, 06:39:15 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on March 28, 2010, 02:35:17 PM
So the face of the scoreboard is in play, huh?  That's very different.  I'm sure that's an emphatic point made during the pre-game coaches meeting.

No different than off scoreboards on the outfield fence at Major League ball parks.

There is a big difference between a scoreboard built into a wall, and a freestanding scoreboard that is elevated above the wall.  Generally, the latter is not in play, but if they've chosen to keep it in play, it's no big deal.  It's just unusual.  That's my only point.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on March 28, 2010, 09:04:44 PM
Looks like I'm way off again Point ended up splitting with St. Norbert's today losing game 1 5-4 with their ace pitching and winning 8-1 in the 2nd game.  Looks like Point may finish 500 for the season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 28, 2010, 09:13:05 PM
Quote from: pickleshiner on March 28, 2010, 09:04:44 PM
Looks like I'm way off again Point ended up splitting with St. Norbert's today losing game 1 5-4 with their ace pitching and winning 8-1 in the 2nd game.  Looks like Point may finish 500 for the season.

Don't you get whiplash with these sudden changes of direction all the time?  There is such a thing as the middle of the road.  See if you can find it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on March 28, 2010, 10:07:38 PM
Just nervous that's all they barely beat Lawrence and split with an OK Norbert's team.  On a side note where the hell was Koback today for Point?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 29, 2010, 09:15:46 AM
Quote from: pickleshiner on March 28, 2010, 10:07:38 PM
Just nervous that's all they barely beat Lawrence and split with an OK Norbert's team.  On a side note where the hell was Koback today for Point?
Point was in control the whole time against Lawrence, and that was with having their #6 pitcher on the mound (Mittelstaedt.) 

That "ok" St. Norbert's team you speak of showed last year that even though they may only have an "average" record, they can play with (and sometimes beat) some of the top teams in the Midwest, as they went 3-3 against the WIAC last season with wins over Point and Oshkosh, who I'm sure you know both shared the WIAC regular season title with Whitewater.  (They also beat Platteville.)

I hope you have good medical coverage....  I assume you are going to break your ankle a few times with all that jumpiing on and off the Pointer bandwagon you are doing.... ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on March 29, 2010, 09:49:11 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 28, 2010, 02:25:50 PM
Prucha Field and Jim Miller Stadium have to be one of the best college baseball facilities in the state.  The new playing surface is super nice.  It's softer than playing on natural grass and all the bounces are true.  The dugouts have been expanded and the Kohler Suite has replaced the portable toilets.  The sound system has been updated and works like a charm.  The lights have been installed and are working.  I'm told that when illuminated the field is brighter than the playing field at Perkins Stadium.  The outfield irrigation system will insure the remaining grass is green and lush.  The fence in left now plays at 330 feet down the line and dead center is 395.  Right field is still 320 down the line but the scoreboard installed last year slightly overhangs the fence and keeps balls hit off of it in play.  The new netting which extends above the brick backstop provides an unobstructed view of the playing field.  The only remaining project is sodding which is scheduled for this upcoming work.  I think teams are really going to enjoy playing on it.

The WARHAWKS opened the renovated facility in grand style improving their season record to 10-1 with a double hitter sweep of Ripon winning the first game 11-1 in seven innings and taking game two 3-1.  Riley Tincher (3-0) went the distance in game one holding Ripon to five hits while striking out six and issuing a single base on balls.  Ripon took the early lead scoring their only run in the top of the fourth but the WARHAWKS answered with five runs of their own in the bottom of the inning before adding a single run in the fifth and five more in the sixth.  Ryan Leavitt had five RBI on a pair of home runs and Jeff Donovan drove in four runs going 4x4 at the plate.  Rob Coe (2) and Daniel Putnam (2) also had multiple hits.

Game two was a tighter affair in which the WARHAWKS prevailed 3-1.  Jason Hooper got the start giving up Ripon's only run on four hits and striking out six in 5.1 innings before being replaced by Kyle Lee.  Lee entered with Ripon runners on first and third with one out but worked out it with a strike out and infield ground out.  Lee (2-0) pitched 2.2 innings striking out three and giving up a single hit.  Ben Versnick struck out the side in Ripon's ninth.  Trailing 1-0 in the sixth the WARHAWKS scored three times with RBI hits from Jeff Donovan and Rob Coe.  Coe finished with a pair of hits and RBI.

The WARHAWKS return to action hosting a pair of games with Marion on Thursday.

not that it's a big deal, but a baseball infield (college standards) needs to be about twice as bright as a football stadium when it comes to the lighting.

On another note, I'm going to try and keep my spinal cord in-tact here, but I'm beginning to be a little concerned for Point.  There has to be some mental thing going on where they are just not able to bring everything they have to every game.  They have way too much talent to be as inconsistent as they have been.  There could certainly be other reasons, but in my experiences, inconsistency like that which they are exhibiting right now is from a lack of mental preparedness.  They may also be a little over confident as well.... I have no idea really, but I'm going to wait another 10 games before I hit the panic button.  7-4 is still a good start, just think it could have been better.

Whitewater looks to be playing well, and their facility is one of the best, until UW-Milwaukee builds their new field in a couple years.  You certainly can't beat the warhawks facilities in D3, and they give them a big advantage before the game even starts.  Even after playing there for two years, you still feel a little intimidated by the place!  It's a beautiful facility and also a 1-0 lead before the game begins.  It's going to be a great battle this year between point and uww for the top spot in the WIAC! 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 29, 2010, 10:12:12 AM
Quote from: Dagger on March 29, 2010, 09:49:11 AM
Even after playing there for two years, you still feel a little intimidated by the place!  It's a beautiful facility and also a 1-0 lead before the game begins.   

Fear the bird!  :D ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on March 29, 2010, 12:40:49 PM
I'm not too worried about Point's shaky start to the season...Seems like it happens every year.  In 06 and 07 we came back from florida just a game or two over .500 and we made it to the World Series.  Our competition was pretty stiff however, but winning is winning and losing is losing.  I'm sure they'll turn it around.
I wonder if Koback may be injured or if he is just not playing the field as much this year and focusing more on pitching.  We'll see if he plays or pitches this Saturday against Ripon.  If he doesn't do either, you almost have to assume that he's injured.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on March 29, 2010, 02:06:55 PM
It's really hard to take Koback's bat and his speed on the bases out of the lineup but the way Lorenz and Delorit have started I'm guessing Koback is going to be heavily counted on in the rotation which sucks.  Their offense is a lot better with Koback in the lineup.  I thought their lineup against Trinity game 1 was the best it could possibly be set up.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on March 29, 2010, 07:31:03 PM
Quote from: pickleshiner on March 29, 2010, 02:06:55 PM
It's really hard to take Koback's bat and his speed on the bases out of the lineup but the way Lorenz and Delorit have started I'm guessing Koback is going to be heavily counted on in the rotation which sucks.  Their offense is a lot better with Koback in the lineup.  I thought their lineup against Trinity game 1 was the best it could possibly be set up.
Well I'm sure there is a good reason for Koback not playing, what it is, i'm not sure.  I'm sure lorenz and delorit are going to come around, we're still in the first 10 or so games here, a lot of ball to play yet.  As everyone says, better to end hot then start hot, hopefully thats the case again this year. 
On another note, does anyone know how good of pitchers Whitewater has been facing?  Their team batting average is ridiculous.  Just wondering if WWs hitters are that good or if the pitching they're facing is that bad, or maybe it's a little of both.  Just curious
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 29, 2010, 08:06:33 PM
You can draw your own conclusion about WARHAWK hitters but here's the low down on the pitchers they've faced.

Against Ripon we faced their two pitchers, Wierschke and Dwyer, who are 1st and 2nd in innings pitched for the Red Hawks.
Against Washington and Jefferson we faced their two pitchers, Trushel and Kennedy, who are 1st and 2nd in innings pitched for the Presidents.
Against Cortland we faced their pitcher, Assmann, who is 1st in innings pitched for the Red Dragons.
Against Hope we faced their two pitchers, Clements and Fairchild, who are 2nd and 3rd in innings pitched for the Flying Dutchmen.
Against Hamline we faced their two pitchers, Eickman and Krietfort, who are 3rd and 4th in innings pitched for the Pipers.
Against Augsburg we faced their pitcher, Ozga, who is 2nd in innings pitched for the Augies.

I don't know how good they are but for the most part we are facing pitchers who are getting significant innings for their teams.  Obviously the season is still young and their position, in terms of innings pitched, could change but to date we're facing pitchers that our opponents use regularly.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on March 30, 2010, 08:42:03 AM
I've drawn my conclusion.  Whitewater will lose 2 games in the WIAC to Point but will walk away with the title.  Point will manage to win the conference tourney as the #4 seed.  Whitewater will go unbeaten in regionals and win the world series making WIAC champs in Football, Basketball, and Baseball.  Whitewater is looking better than their last world series team offensively.  Point is just way too inconsistent and can't put the same lineup on the field on a regular basis.  Great teams have a lineup 1-9 that's consistent with a few guys coming off the bench with clutch hits.  I'm also very concerned about Point's pitching staff so far.  Their really missing Zielke and Barry from last year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 30, 2010, 09:30:00 AM
I'm not even sure where to start with that.....

First of all, if Point is the #4 seed, they won't even make the WIAC Tournament, as it is only the top three seeds this season.  I will bet the farm that Point finishes either #1 or #2 during the regular season this year.

Secondly, while Whitewater may be looking better offensively this season, their pitching staff isn't even close to the World Series team that featured Reinhard and Tomasiewicz.  One could argue they don't even have one guy as good as either of those two, who combined to go 27-1 and threw nearly half of Whitewater's total innings that season.

Lasty, the pitching in the WIAC is down as a whole this season.  I still think Point has the deepest staff, which over the long haul will pay dividends with the way the WIAC schedule is set-up with six games in five days.

You take Whitewater and I'll take Point, and we'll see who is right.  Make sure you get some ice for that ankle!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 30, 2010, 09:53:32 AM
Like most of your conclusions I assume this one is subject to change following the next round of games.  ;) 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 30, 2010, 11:06:45 AM
Just goes to show what a funny game baseball can be.....

Oshkosh is 5-5 right now, however four of the five losses have been by one run.  While a lot of guys are down on UWO right now (myself included) I wonder what the attitude would be if they had won all of those one run games and were 9-1?  We'd probably have people who would think that the Titans belong right with Point and Whitewater.  Just to be fair however, three of UWO's five wins have also been by one run.  Just think if thay had lost those games, and were 2-8.  We'd have guys ready to shovel the dirt on the Titans grave.

I guess what I am trying to say, is 5-5 is probably a pretty accurate idea of where UWO is at this point in the season.  It will be interesting to see if all of these "close" early season games will benefit them during the WIAC part of the season.

It will also be interesting to see what UWO's line-up looks like on Friday against Lawrence.  I have a pretty good source who has indicated that there will be a noticable omission from the line-up.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on March 30, 2010, 12:05:27 PM
Their playing Lawrence I'm sure they can have a quite a few omissions.  I'm sure on 04/07/10 Point will win game 1 15-2 and lose game 2 8-1.  That's been their pattern thus far.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on March 30, 2010, 12:24:17 PM
Unfortunately I'm going to have to slightly agree with pickleshiner on the fact that shuffling the lineup every single game is a distraction for hitters, and something that really does have a impact on them.  Having lived that philosophy out, it is certainly frustrating as a batter to never know where you are hitting.  There are just too many differences in your approach at the plate to feel comfortable in a new spot in the lineup everyday...

...and with that I vow to never again be in agreement with pickleshiner! haha  8-)


On another note, WW does look pretty solid, but as we all know there will be some surprises that the WIAC will throw at the big boys again this year.  It really comes down to how well WW and Point can navigate the "weaker" WIAC teams.  I don't think there's any doubt that it will be WW and Point battling it out for the top spot.  As was previously mentioned, point's pitching is (theoretically) the deepest, and as such will carry them over the long haul.  That will especially come in handy during the games against the other wiac teams where WW's less deep pitching may give up a big game that the offense may not be able to match for whatever reason. 

As for Oshkosh, it's best summed up in my opinion as the same scenario we have seen play out for them in the past 5 years or so.  They are a dangerous club no doubt about it, but for whatever reason can not get over the hump when it really matters.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 30, 2010, 01:06:39 PM
Quote from: pickleshiner on March 30, 2010, 12:05:27 PM
Their playing Lawrence I'm sure they can have a quite a few omissions.  I'm sure on 04/07/10 Point will win game 1 15-2 and lose game 2 8-1.  That's been their pattern thus far.
While they may be able to afford it against Lawrence, it could hurt them the follwoing day against St. Norbert and the rest of the WIAC season.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on March 30, 2010, 02:38:49 PM
It would be kind of nice if Point would get their stats up to see how everyone is doing...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on March 30, 2010, 02:49:55 PM
It's really sad that a program as good as Point has been the past few years doesn't even have live stats yet update their stats.  I was checking the opposing teams website daily on their Florida Trip because I knew damn well Point's site wouldn't be updated other than the final and that would be at 11:00 P.M.  I sure wish I knew if Point's best overall player, Cody Koback, was playing again this year.  Anyone know if he's hure or what the deal is or is this hush hush like Jirschele transferring to Point?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on March 30, 2010, 03:36:07 PM
Quote from: pickleshiner on March 30, 2010, 02:49:55 PM
It's really sad that a program as good as Point has been the past few years doesn't even have live stats yet update their stats.  I was checking the opposing teams website daily on their Florida Trip because I knew damn well Point's site wouldn't be updated other than the final and that would be at 11:00 P.M.  I sure wish I knew if Point's best overall player, Cody Koback, was playing again this year.  Anyone know if he's hure or what the deal is or is this hush hush like Jirschele transferring to Point?
I agree, I've been wondering if they're going to ever get live stats.  It's not like it's difficult to do it, it's just buying the software and having you're team manager or a red shirt enter in the info.  But it's still pretty sad that they've been back from Florida for 5 days now and they still don't have any stats from the trip up.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 30, 2010, 03:58:35 PM
You don't need an extra person to do live stats. The official scorer (often the SID or an SID employee) is already scoring the game with StatCrew software. All he/she has to do is activate the live stats function.

The issue of live stats at Point has to do with having an internet connection at the field.  Currently there is none.  I know they were going to wire it when they built the pressbox, but IT promised the whole campus would be wireless, so they cut it out.  That hasn't happened yet.

Now that being said, it's nothing that a moblie broadband card can't handle. That's how many schools run live stats from unwired ball parks.  I don't know why UWSP hasn't made that investment.

The REALLY strange thing to me is I heard that UW-Whitewater's brand spanking new pressbox doesn't have phone or internet.  If that's true, that's really mind boggling why you'd build a beautiful new space and not wire it appropriately.  Makes me wonder if they will have live stats or radio for the NCAA Regional.  I remember how frustrated people got with Augustana last year when they had no coverage of their regional games.

Maybe badgerwarhawk or voice can fill us in if that is true?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on March 30, 2010, 04:24:56 PM
It's extremely frustrating with no live stats seeing most people have to work at 1:00 on Wednesdays and can't make the games until the middle end of the 2nd game.  It would be great to pop up live stats every once in a while at work and see the scores.  WIAC basketball is great because they have live stats for every game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on March 30, 2010, 05:02:43 PM
LOL..i see the stats are updated on Points website...I guess when you want something done just post it on D3boards.com..haha
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: voice on March 30, 2010, 05:31:52 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on March 30, 2010, 03:58:35 PM
You don't need an extra person to do live stats. The official scorer (often the SID or an SID employee) is already scoring the game with StatCrew software. All he/she has to do is activate the live stats function.

The issue of live stats at Point has to do with having an internet connection at the field.  Currently there is none.  I know they were going to wire it when they built the pressbox, but IT promised the whole campus would be wireless, so they cut it out.  That hasn't happened yet.

Now that being said, it's nothing that a moblie broadband card can't handle. That's how many schools run live stats from unwired ball parks.  I don't know why UWSP hasn't made that investment.

The REALLY strange thing to me is I heard that UW-Whitewater's brand spanking new pressbox doesn't have phone or internet.  If that's true, that's really mind boggling why you'd build a beautiful new space and not wire it appropriately.  Makes me wonder if they will have live stats or radio for the NCAA Regional.  I remember how frustrated people got with Augustana last year when they had no coverage of their regional games.

Maybe badgerwarhawk or voice can fill us in if that is true?

Just for clarification... the newly renovated Prucha Field at "Mills" Stadium still has the same press box.  The original plans had new press box, etc to be located on top of the current box seats.   When the economy improves, and with additional fundrasing, a phase II will be completed.

As far as no internet hookup... I have used  Spint mobile broadband for the past two years which allows me to get online pretty much at any location in the United States.  With Whjitewater hosting this spring's NCAA Division III Midwest Regional, hopefully visiting SIDs and media members will have access to the internet.

In a shameless plug... I will be blogging live (not LiveStats) from Thursday's Marian University @ Whitewater doubleheader via http://voiceseyeonbaseball.blogspot.com/

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 30, 2010, 06:29:52 PM
Quote from: voice on March 30, 2010, 05:31:52 PM
As far as no internet hookup... I have used  Spint mobile broadband for the past two years which allows me to get online pretty much at any location in the United States.  With Whjitewater hosting this spring's NCAA Division III Midwest Regional, hopefully visiting SIDs and media members will have access to the internet.

So does that mean UWW will be adding internet connections for everyone before the Regional or does that mean you're hoping visiting SIDs and media will bring their own broadband cards?

Just curious, because I know how much flack Augustana took when they hosted last year and had no live info of any kind.  People on these boards were pretty upset with them.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: voice on March 30, 2010, 09:38:27 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on March 30, 2010, 06:29:52 PM
Quote from: voice on March 30, 2010, 05:31:52 PM
As far as no internet hookup... I have used  Spint mobile broadband for the past two years which allows me to get online pretty much at any location in the United States.  With Whjitewater hosting this spring's NCAA Division III Midwest Regional, hopefully visiting SIDs and media members will have access to the internet.

So does that mean UWW will be adding internet connections for everyone before the Regional or does that mean you're hoping visiting SIDs and media will bring their own broadband cards?

Just curious, because I know how much flack Augustana took when they hosted last year and had no live info of any kind.  People on these boards were pretty upset with them.

No idea - I don't make those decisions.  I'll find out and have an answer by the weekend.

BTW  I had my broadband card down in Rock Island last year.  But because we had to broadcast outside, the sun prevented me from being able to view my computer screen much of the week.  DIII at its best!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 31, 2010, 10:23:00 AM
Whitewater has made significant upgrades to its facilities and after confirmation with Whitewater officials, the University is currently working on installing fiber optics to the Eric Baldwin Clubhouse so that there will be internet access for sports information and media during the NCAA Division III Midwest Regional in May. Whitewater appreciates everyone's patience as they work in a difficult economic environment in the State System.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 31, 2010, 02:25:53 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 31, 2010, 10:23:00 AM
Whitewater has made significant upgrades to its facilities and after confirmation with Whitewater officials, the University is currently working on installing fiber optics to the Eric Baldwin Clubhouse so that there will be internet access for sports information and media during the NCAA Division III Midwest Regional in May. Whitewater appreciates everyone's patience as they work in a difficult economic environment in the State System.

Don't I know it.  Thanks for checking up BW.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 31, 2010, 02:34:47 PM
Now that Point finally has their stats up, it's interesting to see how some of their guys did on the trip to Florida.

Fritz-Looks like he is seeing the ball well, hitting over .400 thus far.  Surprisingly, he also leads Point in slugging % out of the lead off spot.  Appears he is struggling defensively however, as he alone has half of Point's total errors thus far (7) thru 11 games.

Richter-Looks like he is going to pick up right where he left off following up his POY selection last season.  I would suspect his power nmbers will get better as the season progresses as well.

Surman-Seems to be in an early season funk.  (Actually reminds me of the numbers Whitewater's Kevin Zalnis put up early last year.)  Makes a guy wonder which Surman is going to show up?  The freshman who hit .385 and was a 1st Team All Conference selection, or the Sophomre that hit .265.

I am a bit surprised to see how successful Point's opponents have been swiping bases this season.  Thru 11 games, Points opponents have 9 stolen bases in 10 attempts.  For the sake of comparison, Point gunned down roughly 30% of would-be base stealers last season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on March 31, 2010, 03:30:15 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 31, 2010, 02:34:47 PM
Now that Point finally has their stats up, it's interesting to see how some of their guys did on the trip to Florida.

Fritz-Looks like he is seeing the ball well, hitting over .400 thus far.  Surprisingly, he also leads Point in slugging % out of the lead off spot.  Appears he is struggling defensively however, as he alone has half of Point's total errors thus far (7) thru 11 games.

Richter-Looks like he is going to pick up right where he left off following up his POY selection last season.  I would suspect his power nmbers will get better as the season progresses as well.

Surman-Seems to be in an early season funk.  (Actually reminds me of the numbers Whitewater's Kevin Zalnis put up early last year.)  Makes a guy wonder which Surman is going to show up?  The freshman who hit .385 and was a 1st Team All Conference selection, or the Sophomre that hit .265.

I am a bit surprised to see how successful Point's opponents have been swiping bases this season.  Thru 11 games, Points opponents have 9 stolen bases in 10 attempts.  For the sake of comparison, Point gunned down roughly 30% of would-be base stealers last season.
Fritz is definitely stepping up this year at the plate.  Last year was a little disappointing after the year he had as a freshman, but I guess they don't call it a sophomore slump for nothing.  Unfortunately his defense is a little rough, but he plays his a** off every game and gives it everything he has so hopefully it will turn around for him. 
Richter had a decent trip and start to the season, hopefully he can limit the strikeouts a little more, but he's a power hitter they tend to have a few more Ks. 
Archambeau is still there!!! LoL just funny cuz it seems like he's been there forever, i played with him 2 years and i feel like i've been gone a long time.  Looks like he's off to a decent start, definitely playing below his potential though.  I'm sure he will be a force in the middle of the lineup again this year.
Surman is a pretty big surprise to me as well, last year he went through a little bit of a slump, so i thought this year he would come out and hit pretty well.  Unfortunately thats not the case.
Looking at the stats, a lot of guys got significant playing time in florida and for the most part played pretty good.  Point will have a lot of depth on the mound and in the field, which is nice, but it also puts added pressure on the players because if you have a bad day, you could be benched and watching from the dugout the next game.  Hopefully the veterans step up and big years for the Pointers.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on March 31, 2010, 11:04:40 PM
I'm not making excuses for fritz's, or my own, defensive struggles, however I will say this...Point is by far the worst at scoring baseball games, when it comes to giving hits/errors to themselves.  Honestly in any given year, you can subtract 5 errors, and add about 15 points to batting averages.  It's actually comical sometimes, how things get scored.  That's my 1.5 cents on that topic!

After looking over the stats, the most surprising number to me, was the lack of numbers in the HR department, especially with the hitters they have this year in surman, arch, and richter, and fritz can poke some out also!  As a whole they are a little behind where you would like to see them offensively.  With a team average just barely over .300.  That is a number that is traditionally much higher, and is likely a result of a number of different factors.  other than that, they seem to be playing well for the most part, and come the end of the year they should be in perfect position to make another charge, with the experience of another season under their belts, and the strength of their pitching staff (barring an injury). 

I see trinity 9-1 has suffered their only loss of the young season at the hands of the pointers....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on April 01, 2010, 03:11:06 PM
Quote from: Dagger on March 31, 2010, 11:04:40 PM
I'm not making excuses for fritz's, or my own, defensive struggles, however I will say this...Point is by far the worst at scoring baseball games, when it comes to giving hits/errors to themselves.  Honestly in any given year, you can subtract 5 errors, and add about 15 points to batting averages.  It's actually comical sometimes, how things get scored.  That's my 1.5 cents on that topic!
LOL, i guess the pointers want everyone to underestimate them.  :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 01, 2010, 08:50:55 PM
The WARHAWKS pounded out 35 hits in sweeping a pair from Marion 19-7 and 13-3 (8 innings).  The WARHAWKS got out to a 7-0 lead after four innings in the first game.  Riley Tincher picked up his fifth win of the season going 6 innings.  He was relieved by Kyle Lee and Ben Versnik who threw three shutout innings striking out six batters.  Both Daniel Putnam (4x5, 5RBI) and Ben Kuhlmann (5x6, 4RBI) had a double and triple.  Mike Kenseth went 3x4 and Kevin Barth had a grand slam home run. 

Aaron Leitner (3-1) got the start and win in the second game going 5 innings giving up 5 hits and 3 runs.  He was relieved by Jason Hooper who had 5 Ks in 2.2 innings and Andrew Bauer got the final out.  The score was tied 3-3 after 4 innings before the WARHAWKS plated 5 runs in the fifth to take the lead for good.  The game ended with back to back to back home runs from Kenseth, Matt Beyer and Putnam.  Kenseth was a perfect 4x4 at the plate with a pair of RBIs.  Beyer (4RBI) and Putnam (2RBI) both went 3X5.  Jeff Donovan had a pair of hits and RBIs in three at bats.

History was made on Prucha Field in the Jim Miller Stadium when the lights were turned on toward the end of game two.  It was way, way cool.  They were really bright even though it wasn't really that dark out. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 01, 2010, 10:05:10 PM
whitewater is putting up ridiculous numbers right now.  I don't care who they're playing, that's something to fear! 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on April 01, 2010, 10:20:03 PM
Not only is Whitewater scary right now I'm nervous about Point's series at home against Platteville next weekend.  Platteville looks like they can rake this year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on April 02, 2010, 08:11:15 AM
Is Point going to shine it up tomorrow in Ripon?  I'm keeping my fingers crossed it doesn't rain.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 02, 2010, 09:35:08 AM
platteville has never really been a poor hitting team, however they more than make up for that success with their sub par pitching.  They are certainly a team capable of beating anyone in the conference, as really any team is this year...on that note, any insight into the stout club this year?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 02, 2010, 09:41:47 AM
I forgot to mention that Putnam hit for the cycle and had a walk in the first game yesterday.

Speaking of Platteville how about Aaron Hobson who had a walk off three run home run to beat Loras 15-14 in the 11th inning of the first game and then hit a two run walk off single with two outs in the second game giving the Pioneer another one run win 11-10.  Talk about clutch.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on April 02, 2010, 04:46:01 PM
Quote from: Dagger on April 01, 2010, 10:05:10 PM
whitewater is putting up ridiculous numbers right now.  I don't care who they're playing, that's something to fear! 
Ridiculous numbers for sure.  But their opponents overall record is 55-65.  I remember the feeling after beating the crap out of Superior or Stout by 20+ runs and it was nothing like beating a quality opponent.  It was a loss if you didn't 10 run rule the team pretty much.  WW hitters are traditionally very good, so we'll see if they keep up this insane offensive juggernaut throughout the WIAC season.  But I would rather be playing quality competition and winning or losing games by 1 or 2 runs, than beating a bunch of weak teams by 8-12 runs.  But I guess every team has their own philosophy, some teams like to get that confidence level up before facing the big dogs.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: voice on April 02, 2010, 05:32:19 PM
Quote from: Brewers20 on April 02, 2010, 04:46:01 PM
Quote from: Dagger on April 01, 2010, 10:05:10 PM
whitewater is putting up ridiculous numbers right now.  I don't care who they're playing, that's something to fear!  
Ridiculous numbers for sure.  But their opponents overall record is 55-65.  I remember the feeling after beating the crap out of Superior or Stout by 20+ runs and it was nothing like beating a quality opponent.  It was a loss if you didn't 10 run rule the team pretty much.  WW hitters are traditionally very good, so we'll see if they keep up this insane offensive juggernaut throughout the WIAC season.  But I would rather be playing quality competition and winning or losing games by 1 or 2 runs, than beating a bunch of weak teams by 8-12 runs.  But I guess every team has their own philosophy, some teams like to get that confidence level up before facing the big dogs.

Platteville is also putting big numbers  this season.  Case in point is this afternoon's first game of a doubleheader at Carroll in Wauskesha
UWP wins the opener 32-8.  That is a lot of runs no matter what the caliber of competiton is! :o
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: voice on April 02, 2010, 05:39:08 PM
Quote from: Brewers20 on April 02, 2010, 04:46:01 PM
Quote from: Dagger on April 01, 2010, 10:05:10 PM
whitewater is putting up ridiculous numbers right now.  I don't care who they're playing, that's something to fear! 
Ridiculous numbers for sure.  But their opponents overall record is 55-65.  I remember the feeling after beating the crap out of Superior or Stout by 20+ runs and it was nothing like beating a quality opponent.  It was a loss if you didn't 10 run rule the team pretty much.  WW hitters are traditionally very good, so we'll see if they keep up this insane offensive juggernaut throughout the WIAC season.  But I would rather be playing quality competition and winning or losing games by 1 or 2 runs, than beating a bunch of weak teams by 8-12 runs.  But I guess every team has their own philosophy, some teams like to get that confidence level up before facing the big dogs.


With the exception of Points split vs Trinity College last month in Florida, the Pointers and Warhawks schedules are very similar. At least in my eyes.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on April 02, 2010, 05:56:39 PM
Quote from: voice on April 02, 2010, 05:39:08 PM
Quote from: Brewers20 on April 02, 2010, 04:46:01 PM
Quote from: Dagger on April 01, 2010, 10:05:10 PM
whitewater is putting up ridiculous numbers right now.  I don't care who they're playing, that's something to fear! 
Ridiculous numbers for sure.  But their opponents overall record is 55-65.  I remember the feeling after beating the crap out of Superior or Stout by 20+ runs and it was nothing like beating a quality opponent.  It was a loss if you didn't 10 run rule the team pretty much.  WW hitters are traditionally very good, so we'll see if they keep up this insane offensive juggernaut throughout the WIAC season.  But I would rather be playing quality competition and winning or losing games by 1 or 2 runs, than beating a bunch of weak teams by 8-12 runs.  But I guess every team has their own philosophy, some teams like to get that confidence level up before facing the big dogs.


With the exception of Points split vs Trinity College last month in Florida, the Pointers and Warhawks schedules are very similar. At least in my eyes.
Yes they are, Pointers are definitely starting off slower than expected.   In general no one in the WIAC has played a tough schedule. 
*Point was suppose to play Otterbein but since the W&J games got postponed the first day on their trip, they had to bump Otterbein off the schedule, that would've been a good matchup as well.
I'm not taking anything away from the Warhawks, they're doing what they're suppose to and then some against the weaker teams.  But it's always a different story in WIAC play...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 02, 2010, 09:59:24 PM
Quote from: Brewers20 on April 02, 2010, 05:56:39 PM
facing the big dogs.
*Point was suppose to play Otterbein but since the W&J games got postponed the first day on their trip, they had to bump Otterbein off the schedule, that would've been a good matchup as well.

Someone (calling badgerwarhawk!) correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe WW was supposed to play the Otters, too - but something happened on the way to the ballpark and W & J was added late.  voice is right, other than the Trinity DH, UWSP and UWW's schedules are very similiar, except for the results!  ;)

BTW, what's with the poll question at the top of the page? Point 4 votes, WW 7 votes, total voters 10.

Who was put in charge of the math?

Or who voted twice? and how do you do that?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: formman on April 02, 2010, 10:07:02 PM
Otterbein did not make the trip to Florida so everyone that had a game scheduled with them was scrambling. St. Thomas was supposed to play them as well.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: UWP SID on April 02, 2010, 10:18:32 PM
UW-Whitewater is ranked third in all of NCAA III in scoring, and UW-Platteville is seventh--and that is before this week's on-slaught of runs and hits. (UWP tied a WIAC  record with 30 hits in the first game against Carroll and had 15 HRs in the doubleheader sweep.)

The two teams meet Wednesday at 1 p.m. in Platteville. And of course no, I'm not mentioning this just to sell tickets.  :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: wustlfan37 on April 03, 2010, 02:48:56 AM
Quote from: UWP SID on April 02, 2010, 10:18:32 PM
UW-Platteville is seventh--and that is before this week's on-slaught of runs and hits. (UWP tied a school record with 30 hits in the first game against Carroll and had 15 HRs in the doubleheader sweep.)



15 home runs...in one day...by one team?  Has anything even close to this ever happened before?  Were they playing in someone's backyard?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 03, 2010, 07:47:36 AM
Quote from: wustlfan37 on April 03, 2010, 02:48:56 AM
Quote from: UWP SID on April 02, 2010, 10:18:32 PM
UW-Platteville is seventh--and that is before this week's on-slaught of runs and hits. (UWP tied a school record with 30 hits in the first game against Carroll and had 15 HRs in the doubleheader sweep.)



15 home runs...in one day...by one team?  Has anything even close to this ever happened before?  Were they playing in someone's backyard?

Use to do that in the backyard all the time - only the game was wiffle ball!!  ;D :D 8-)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: UWP SID on April 03, 2010, 04:49:44 PM
Quote from: wustlfan37 on April 03, 2010, 02:48:56 AM
15 home runs...in one day...by one team?  Has anything even close to this ever happened before?  Were they playing in someone's backyard?

It actually has been bettered in the WIAC. Oshkosh hit 17 in a 1995 doubleheader with Stevens Point. That was the year Tim Jorgensen hit 39 and Craig Lieder 23 for the Titans.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: eccfbaseballer on April 04, 2010, 12:13:42 PM
All I can say Whitewater is "lookout for Stout"! 1-6 hitters are as good as anyone in the conference. Defense is much improved with the addition of Duske and Schoch and Gilbertson to 1st.  Pitching is young and unproven. I'd rather have young and unproven over old and questionable.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ballfan55 on April 05, 2010, 08:52:33 AM
Quote from: wustlfan37 on April 03, 2010, 02:48:56 AM
Quote from: UWP SID on April 02, 2010, 10:18:32 PM
UW-Platteville is seventh--and that is before this week's on-slaught of runs and hits. (UWP tied a school record with 30 hits in the first game against Carroll and had 15 HRs in the doubleheader sweep.)



15 home runs...in one day...by one team?  Has anything even close to this ever happened before?  Were they playing in someone's backyard?

I was at the game.  Frame Park, which is Carroll's home park is small to start, then you had a gale blowing out to right and center.  Balls that in any other game that were routine flies were making their way out.  Add to that the fact number of young pitchers Carroll put on the mound and a few errors that extended innings and it was a prescription for what happened.  It was actually pretty painful to watch.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on April 05, 2010, 10:11:42 AM
No comments about St. Norbert's sweeping Oshkosh this past weekend or Lawrence getting pasted by the U. of Chicago?  I don't think Stout presents much of a challenge for Whitewater but I think you can say any team in the WIAC is capable on any given day given the quality of the teams in this conference.  I'm getting more and more agitated by the day that I haven't heard what the deal is with Koback.  All I know is Point has 0 chance of winning the WIAC or regionals without him.  They need him to step up and be the #2-3 guy on their staff this year with his blazing heat.  They will also miss his bat in the lineup and arm in the outfield.  He should be used like Zimmerman was no doubt.  I'm looking forward to Oshkosh-Point this Wednesday.  I'm guessing Point will overlook them a tad and end up splitting winning game 1 17-2 and getting shut out by Kannenberg in game 2 2-0.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 05, 2010, 10:10:31 PM
Nothing against Kody Koback, but it takes more than one player to win. Not sure what is up with Koback, but sounds like some of the other guys are very capable of helping the Pointers out. You still need pitching and I think they will be okay.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bluemoon on April 06, 2010, 07:43:48 AM
I read a short bit in the monday Journal Sentinal that an anonymous donor has saved LaCrosse baseball. Anyone have any info?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on April 06, 2010, 07:44:25 AM
What I'm saying is they need him as a pitcher.  After Delorit, Williams, and possibly Lorenz I would be very nervous with having to put a freshman out their against some of these lineups in the WIAC.  I thought Koback would be a top 4 pitcher in the conference this year.  I'm happy to hear that La Crosse is at least funded for the next 5 years for baseball.  That would really suck if they would've had to cut baseball.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanBystander on April 06, 2010, 09:15:05 AM
Quote from: bluemoon on April 06, 2010, 07:43:48 AM
I read a short bit in the monday Journal Sentinal that an anonymous donor has saved LaCrosse baseball. Anyone have any info?


Link to Story:  http://www.lacrossetribune.com/news/local/article_8170aff4-3f9e-11df-a17e-001cc4c03286.html

Great news!  Thanks to this anonomous couple, LAX seems sound for at least 5 years.  If I remember right, they needed to come up with $400K to ensure the long term survival of the program so they may not be totally out of the woods yet.  Hopefully, the funding keeps coming in & people don't get the wrong impression that the program is saved forever.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanBystander on April 06, 2010, 09:23:10 AM
Quote from: cubs on March 30, 2010, 11:06:45 AM
It will also be interesting to see what UWO's line-up looks like on Friday against Lawrence.  I have a pretty good source who has indicated that there will be a noticable omission from the line-up.

Funny that no one has posted about this yet.  For those not up to speed, Andrew Eichsteadt from UW-O hung 'em up after the last trip to the Humpty Dome.  I'm not close enough to know a true reason why (I'll hold my own speculation to myself), but a .342 hitter year ago & full time starter this year typically doesn't just quit mid-season because he's not getting the job done on the field.  Also - Derek Hiroskey is now playing First Base due to arm troubles.  Tough break for a good player. 

At this rate, it's hard to see UW-O even making it to the end of the season with a roster intact.  They'll have to really turn things around just to make the 3-team WIAC tournament.  For what it's worth - and tough for me to say - I'm putting my $ on Platteville to be team #3.       
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 06, 2010, 09:43:13 AM
Quote from: TitanBystander on April 06, 2010, 09:23:10 AM
Quote from: cubs on March 30, 2010, 11:06:45 AM
It will also be interesting to see what UWO's line-up looks like on Friday against Lawrence.  I have a pretty good source who has indicated that there will be a noticable omission from the line-up.

Funny that no one has posted about this yet.  For those not up to speed, Andrew Eichsteadt from UW-O hung 'em up after the last trip to the Humpty Dome.  I'm not close enough to know a true reason why (I'll hold my own speculation to myself), but a .342 hitter year ago & full time starter this year typically doesn't just quit mid-season because he's not getting the job done on the field.  Also - Derek Hiroskey is now playing First Base due to arm troubles.  Tough break for a good player. 

At this rate, it's hard to see UW-O even making it to the end of the season with a roster intact.  They'll have to really turn things around just to make the 3-team WIAC tournament.  For what it's worth - and tough for me to say - I'm putting my $ on Platteville to be team #3.       
I am guessing that Coach Lechnir has a lot to do with the player walking away. He is a tough guy to play for.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 06, 2010, 10:06:34 AM
I'm glad to hear that LaCrosse got the funds they needed to keep the program alive for the next five years. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIACLUV on April 06, 2010, 10:07:41 AM
I am guessing that Coach Lechnir has a lot to do with the player walking away. He is a tough guy to play for.
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It always surprises me when people leave UW-O, You have to know what you're getting into when you go there. You're gonna play it the right way and get better, if you don't perform you're going to hear it from Coach Lechnir. He's not the type of guy that's going to hold your hand and say, "get em next time" it's not who he is. But players are coddled and babied throughout high school, so when someone actually gets on them, they fold and quit. Personally if I guy were to fold up like that and pout, I don't want him as a teammate!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 06, 2010, 10:16:29 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 06, 2010, 10:06:34 AM
I'm glad to hear that LaCrosse got the funds they needed to keep the program alive for the next five years. 
I'll join the chorus. That's fantastic news!
What's not fantastic? UWO's start. Interested to see how the Titans fare against UWSP tomorrow, weather permitting.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: voice on April 06, 2010, 12:59:51 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 06, 2010, 10:06:34 AM
I'm glad to hear that LaCrosse got the funds they needed to keep the program alive for the next five years. 

What a great story on the UW-L baseball program getting an 11th hour $100 thousand dollar donation to save the program.  It capped a very successful fundraising effort. 

What concerns me is that other schools in the WIAC may use the La Crosse fundraising effort as a reason to put some of their own sports programs on the chopping block.

I don't think it is a road that boosters (those that make donations) are willing to drive on a regular basis.  The "budget crunch" has put those that sit in their school's "ivory tower" in a very tenuous situation in regards to athletic budgets, etc.  While the talk at the D III level is to be able to find the money to operate full athletic programs, at the D I level, athletic programs are recieving millions of dollars due to the ridiculous amount of money that CBS, ESPN, etc pays to televise NCAA games.

I watched a special CBS Final 4 pregame telecast on Saturday.  Dozens of athletic directors from around the county lined-up to talk about the money going to their athletic programs in the name of the student athlete.   CBS is nearing an end to its 11 year, $6 billion deal with the NCAA. One wonders if the NCAA has the student-athlete No. 1 on its mind when negotiating a new TV package?

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on April 06, 2010, 06:11:23 PM
Quote from: MIACLUV on April 06, 2010, 10:07:41 AM
I am guessing that Coach Lechnir has a lot to do with the player walking away. He is a tough guy to play for.
It always surprises me when people leave UW-O, You have to know what you're getting into when you go there. You're gonna play it the right way and get better, if you don't perform you're going to hear it from Coach Lechnir. He's not the type of guy that's going to hold your hand and say, "get em next time" it's not who he is. But players are coddled and babied throughout high school, so when someone actually gets on them, they fold and quit. Personally if I guy were to fold up like that and pout, I don't want him as a teammate!
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Oshkosh baseball has been on the downward spiral for the past 6 or 7 years.  Might be time for Coach Lechnir to retire.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 07, 2010, 08:33:12 AM
Quote from: voice on April 06, 2010, 12:59:51 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 06, 2010, 10:06:34 AM
I'm glad to hear that LaCrosse got the funds they needed to keep the program alive for the next five years.  

What a great story on the UW-L baseball program getting an 11th hour $100 thousand dollar donation to save the program.  It capped a very successful fundraising effort.  

What concerns me is that other schools in the WIAC may use the La Crosse fundraising effort as a reason to put some of their own sports programs on the chopping block.

I don't think it is a road that boosters (those that make donations) are willing to drive on a regular basis.  The "budget crunch" has put those that sit in their school's "ivory tower" in a very tenuous situation in regards to athletic budgets, etc.  While the talk at the D III level is to be able to find the money to operate full athletic programs, at the D I level, athletic programs are recieving millions of dollars due to the ridiculous amount of money that CBS, ESPN, etc pays to televise NCAA games.

I watched a special CBS Final 4 pregame telecast on Saturday.  Dozens of athletic directors from around the county lined-up to talk about the money going to their athletic programs in the name of the student athlete.   CBS is nearing an end to its 11 year, $6 billion deal with the NCAA. One wonders if the NCAA has the student-athlete No. 1 on its mind when negotiating a new TV package?
Amen, Voice. I was thinking the same thing.

Another D-I student-athlete issue came up when John Feinstein tried to get the NCAA on the record (http://deadspin.com/5508007/last-nights-winner-john-feinstein) about the proposed 96-team tourney, which could potentially force students to miss a full week of classes during the second week of play.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 07, 2010, 12:08:20 PM
Congratulations to former UWO standout Jack Taschner for making the Pittsburgh Pirates opening day roster.  He pitched in the opener throwing 2/3 scoreless, striking out one.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/gametracker/live/MLB_20100405_LA@PIT
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 07, 2010, 12:14:21 PM
Quote from: pickleshiner on April 05, 2010, 10:11:42 AM
All I know is Point has 0 chance of winning the WIAC or regionals without him.  They need him to step up and be the #2-3 guy on their staff this year with his blazing heat.  They will also miss his bat in the lineup and arm in the outfield. 
That couldn't be farther from the truth....  Point has arguably the best pitching staff of any of the WIAC schools, with or without Koback.

As far as him being in the outfield, who are you going to sit then?  Leasding hitter Dan Douglas?  Spurney? Archambeau?  Those are your three best OF's at this time plain and simple.  It's not as if Koback tore the cover off the ball last year, hitting .313, and he's hitting a paltry .262 this year.

I guess I should expect this though, coming from the same guy that didn't think the eventual leading hitter (Cummings) should be inthe line-up last season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 07, 2010, 12:40:31 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 06, 2010, 09:43:13 AM
Quote from: TitanBystander on April 06, 2010, 09:23:10 AM
Quote from: cubs on March 30, 2010, 11:06:45 AM
It will also be interesting to see what UWO's line-up looks like on Friday against Lawrence.  I have a pretty good source who has indicated that there will be a noticable omission from the line-up.
Funny that no one has posted about this yet.  For those not up to speed, Andrew Eichsteadt from UW-O hung 'em up after the last trip to the Humpty Dome.  I'm not close enough to know a true reason why (I'll hold my own speculation to myself), but a .342 hitter year ago & full time starter this year typically doesn't just quit mid-season because he's not getting the job done on the field.  Also - Derek Hiroskey is now playing First Base due to arm troubles.  Tough break for a good player. 

At this rate, it's hard to see UW-O even making it to the end of the season with a roster intact.  They'll have to really turn things around just to make the 3-team WIAC tournament.  For what it's worth - and tough for me to say - I'm putting my $ on Platteville to be team #3.   
I am guessing that Coach Lechnir has a lot to do with the player walking away. He is a tough guy to play for.
While he may be a tough guy to play for, he is also always there to help you out LONG after your playing days are over.  Those on here that are quick to judge him don't see a lot of the stuff that goes on throughout the season.  They only see the stuff that happens on game day.  Coach is one of those guys that I am thankful I was able to play for, as he has helped me as much off the filed as he did on the field.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanBystander on April 07, 2010, 01:34:28 PM
Quote from: MIACLUV on April 06, 2010, 10:07:41 AM
It always surprises me when people leave UW-O, You have to know what you're getting into when you go there. You're gonna play it the right way and get better, if you don't perform you're going to hear it from Coach Lechnir. He's not the type of guy that's going to hold your hand and say, "get em next time" it's not who he is. But players are coddled and babied throughout high school, so when someone actually gets on them, they fold and quit. Personally if I guy were to fold up like that and pout, I don't want him as a teammate!

You are right the UW-O reputation should be very well known & players should be aware of what they are getting into.  I'm sure other successful coaches in the WIAC (Bloom & Vodenlich) can be jsut as tough to play for, but they don't seem to lose SIGNIFCANT CONTRIBUTORS in mid-career or mid-season.  I think when a team loses 5 contributors (Ryan Demmin, Ryan Kuepper,  Ben Sebesta, Justin Jerschele, and Andrew Eichsteadt) in the span of 1 year, one can not assume that all these guys were "coddled and babied throughout high school, so when someone actually gets on them, they fold and quit".  Just too many guys doing this to say it's completely on them. 
The UW-O program needs to take a close look at itself & ask "what are we doing wrong?" 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on April 07, 2010, 02:09:15 PM
Why are Archambeau and Koback not in Point's lineup today at Oshkosh?  I'm a little nervous with their lineup they have out there for game 1 against Kannenberg.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 07, 2010, 02:27:02 PM
Quote from: TitanBystander on April 07, 2010, 01:34:28 PM
Quote from: MIACLUV on April 06, 2010, 10:07:41 AM
It always surprises me when people leave UW-O, You have to know what you're getting into when you go there. You're gonna play it the right way and get better, if you don't perform you're going to hear it from Coach Lechnir. He's not the type of guy that's going to hold your hand and say, "get em next time" it's not who he is. But players are coddled and babied throughout high school, so when someone actually gets on them, they fold and quit. Personally if I guy were to fold up like that and pout, I don't want him as a teammate!

You are right the UW-O reputation should be very well known & players should be aware of what they are getting into.  I'm sure other successful coaches in the WIAC (Bloom & Vodenlich) can be jsut as tough to play for, but they don't seem to lose SIGNIFCANT CONTRIBUTORS in mid-career or mid-season.  I think when a team loses 5 contributors (Ryan Demmin, Ryan Kuepper,  Ben Sebesta, Justin Jerschele, and Andrew Eichsteadt) in the span of 1 year, one can not assume that all these guys were "coddled and babied throughout high school, so when someone actually gets on them, they fold and quit".  Just too many guys doing this to say it's completely on them. 
The UW-O program needs to take a close look at itself & ask "what are we doing wrong?" 
Have to agree with you TitanBystander. I'm pretty sure that they don't wreck pitchers arms either. Someone asked my advice about which school to go to for baseball.  Told them either Point or Whitewater. They have proven track records as winning programs and Oshkosh is the LAST place you want to go.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on April 07, 2010, 02:31:20 PM
Quote from: pickleshiner on April 07, 2010, 02:09:15 PM
Why are Archambeau and Koback not in Point's lineup today at Oshkosh?  I'm a little nervous with their lineup they have out there for game 1 against Kannenberg.
Both are a little banged up as of right now.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on April 07, 2010, 02:32:01 PM
Looks like Point is going to lose game 1.  Oshkosh is rocking Delorit and they have several starters missing and no one seems to know why.  All this ripping on Oshkosh and Coach Lechnir how about some of Blooms decisions?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: brewcrew2008 on April 07, 2010, 02:43:15 PM
Not sure why Archambeau isn't playing but I'm pretty sure Koback's out for the year with an elbow issue
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 07, 2010, 03:02:09 PM
Quote from: pickleshiner on April 07, 2010, 02:32:01 PM
Looks like Point is going to lose game 1.  Oshkosh is rocking Delorit and they have several starters missing and no one seems to know why.  All this ripping on Oshkosh and Coach Lechnir how about some of Blooms decisions?
It's only the 3rd inning. Get a grip!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on April 07, 2010, 03:18:38 PM
I have a grip and am telling you right now game 1 is over.  There's no way in hell Point is going to put up 6 runs against Kannenberg.  What a disappointing start for Delorit in WIAC play.  Giving up 2 bombs to virtually nobody's.  Oshkosh basically has guys out there that are backups because of all the quitting and transferring and yet they can beat Point?  I'm highly confident Point won't make the tourney this year with only 3 teams making it.  No way Whitewater doesn't make it and I would have to pick Platteville and possibly Stout over them to now knowing Koback is out.  Koback was the key to them getting over the hump and having a chance against a team like Whitewater or St. Thomas.  What's wrong with Arch?  I'm hoping to see the varsity team this weekend not the JV team.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 07, 2010, 03:22:44 PM
Quote from: szlongball on April 07, 2010, 02:27:02 PM
I'm pretty sure that they don't wreck pitchers arms either. Someone asked my advice about which school to go to for baseball.  Told them either Point or Whitewater. They have proven track records as winning programs and Oshkosh is the LAST place you want to go.
That's one of the most asinine things I have heard you say on here....  You have no clue what goes on at Oshkosh on a day-to-day basis other than second hand stories.  Oshkosh and Coach Lechnir have produced more guys that have played professional ball in the last 10+ years than the rest of the WIAC combined.  As far as a "proven track record" take a look at the history books.  While UWO has struggled lately with just two WIAC Championships and one Regional title, (there are a few schools that would be MORE than happy with that) noone can touch what they did from the late 1960's to 2000.

As far as these "pitchers arms that are getting wrecked" care to elaborate?  Outside of Rubens, I can't think of another significant arm injury in the last 10 years.  (In that same time period, 5 UWO pitchers have signed professional contracts.)  According to you, Coach Bloom must be "wrecking pitcher's arms as well," since Koback is out for the year with an elbow injury.  Your son Jeff had a nice career at Point, but I can think of more than just one pitcher who missed a season due to an arm injury in just the last five seasons.  Does Brandon Hemstead ring a bell?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 07, 2010, 03:29:25 PM
Quote from: pickleshiner on April 07, 2010, 03:18:38 PM
I have a grip and am telling you right now game 1 is over.  There's no way in hell Point is going to put up 6 runs against Kannenberg.  What a disappointing start for Delorit in WIAC play.  Giving up 2 bombs to virtually nobody's.  Oshkosh basically has guys out there that are backups because of all the quitting and transferring and yet they can beat Point?  I'm highly confident Point won't make the tourney this year with only 3 teams making it.  No way Whitewater doesn't make it and I would have to pick Platteville and possibly Stout over them to now knowing Koback is out.  Koback was the key to them getting over the hump and having a chance against a team like Whitewater or St. Thomas.  What's wrong with Arch?  I'm hoping to see the varsity team this weekend not the JV team.
Derocha was a starter at the beginning of the season, albeit at DH.  If he could play anywhere else in the field besides catcher, he would have gotten more starts.  Mrkvicka on the other hand, I agree with you.  When you just start hitting less than a month ago, you would think there would be a bit of a struggle.

I take your money if you want to bet that Point doesn't make the tourney however.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ballfan55 on April 07, 2010, 03:45:31 PM
Hmmmm 8-5...the gap is narrowing!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 07, 2010, 03:47:38 PM
Quote from: pickleshiner on April 07, 2010, 03:18:38 PM
There's no way in hell Point is going to put up 6 runs against Kannenberg. 
There up to five runs, with three innings to play....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 07, 2010, 04:05:22 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 07, 2010, 03:22:44 PM
Quote from: szlongball on April 07, 2010, 02:27:02 PM
I'm pretty sure that they don't wreck pitchers arms either. Someone asked my advice about which school to go to for baseball.  Told them either Point or Whitewater. They have proven track records as winning programs and Oshkosh is the LAST place you want to go.
That's one of the most asinine things I have heard you say on here....  You have no clue what goes on at Oshkosh on a day-to-day basis other than second hand stories.  Oshkosh and Coach Lechnir have produced more guys that have played professional ball in the last 10+ years than the rest of the WIAC combined.  As far as a "proven track record" take a look at the history books.  While UWO has struggled lately with just two WIAC Championships and one Regional title, (there are a few schools that would be MORE than happy with that) noone can touch what they did from the late 1960's to 2000.

As far as these "pitchers arms that are getting wrecked" care to elaborate?  Outside of Rubens, I can't think of another significant arm injury in the last 10 years.  (In that same time period, 5 UWO pitchers have signed professional contracts.)  According to you, Coach Bloom must be "wrecking pitcher's arms as well," since Koback is out for the year with an elbow injury.  Your son Jeff had a nice career at Point, but I can think of more than just one pitcher who missed a season due to an arm injury in just the last five seasons.  Does Brandon Hemstead ring a bell?
Point taken. I think Koback had arm issues before the season started. Hemstead didn't have Tommy John surgery or the high ceiling that Ruebens did. Can't live in the past. The last 6 years have seen Point(twice) and Whitewater(3? times) make it to Appleton with Whitewater winning it all. As far as players playing pro ball, if your coach isn't proactive, doesn't really matter. Hopefully Jordan Zimmermann can recover completely and have a successful pro career. He has at least made it to the pros as oppossed to the Whitewater pitchers previously drafted(jury still out on Dott). We all are biased towards the schools that we have ties to. Not saying Bloom is better than Lechnir or anybody else in the WIAC. They all have their issues. It is a tough job that most of us couldn't due.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on April 07, 2010, 04:10:20 PM
Richter needs to start hitting and they sure could've used Arch at 3 or 4 i nthe lineup.  I really like Rennicke but he's not your ideal cleanup hitter.  Point just stranded 2 on base and Rennicke couldn't get the clutch hit.  Point better win game 2 or it's going to be a long season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 07, 2010, 04:32:59 PM
Quote from: szlongball on April 07, 2010, 04:05:22 PM
The last 6 years have seen Point(twice) and Whitewater(3? times) make it to Appleton with Whitewater winning it all.
Didn't want to go back seven years, so that UWO would have one trip to the World Series, just one less than the Pointers?   ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 07, 2010, 04:45:35 PM
it's getting ugly...13-5
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on April 07, 2010, 04:50:10 PM
I'm going to become a Finladia fan.  I'm tired of the yearly letdowns of being a Pointer baseball fan.  Not that they don't have winning seasons but they just have too much talent to lose to Oshkosh this year.  Apparently Oshkosh is 1,000 times better than I thought.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on April 07, 2010, 05:05:59 PM
Quote from: pickleshiner on April 07, 2010, 04:50:10 PM
I'm going to become a Finladia fan.  I'm tired of the yearly letdowns of being a Pointer baseball fan.  Not that they don't have winning seasons but they just have too much talent to lose to Oshkosh this year.  Apparently Oshkosh is 1,000 times better than I thought.
Ok sounds good.  Cuz if Point comes out and wins this 2nd game I really would like to see you stay off the Point band wagon like you say you are.  And this is baseball, teams have bad games and lose to people they shouldn't.  The Yankees have way too much talent to lose to the Royals but they still do.  Stop picking every single game apart and just let the season play out.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 07, 2010, 05:12:29 PM
point did out hit the lechnirs...that's a plus!  They're still the number two seed in the tourney, IMO with UWO and platteville battling out third place. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 07, 2010, 05:19:38 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 07, 2010, 04:32:59 PM
Quote from: szlongball on April 07, 2010, 04:05:22 PM
The last 6 years have seen Point(twice) and Whitewater(3? times) make it to Appleton with Whitewater winning it all.
Didn't want to go back seven years, so that UWO would have one trip to the World Series, just one less than the Pointers?   ;D
Point is still in the last 6 years Oshkosh has not gone on to Appleton. Point doesn't have the history that Oshkosh has for being successful for 40 years. It is a world of what have you done lately, not 7 years ago. For Point to have only 1 more trip than Oshkosh in the last 7 years doesn't really matter to me. Point has started to establish itself as a quality program, that was the point I was trying to make.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2010, 05:20:38 PM
Quote from: szlongball on April 07, 2010, 04:05:22 PM

Hopefully Jordan Zimmermann can recover completely and have a successful pro career. He has at least made it to the pros as oppossed to the Whitewater pitchers previously drafted(jury still out on Dott).

We all are biased towards the schools that we have ties to. Not saying Bloom is better than Lechnir or anybody else in the WIAC.


Does the name Bob Wickman ring a bell.  Zimmerman can only hope to have the career Wickman did.
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Wickman

Perhaps you meant to say recently drafted. ;)

For the record I think Zimmerman is one hell of a good pitcher and I hope he has a long and successful MLB career.

Both Lechnir and Bloom have done pretty well for themselves.  
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2010, 05:23:54 PM
Quote from: pickleshiner on April 07, 2010, 04:50:10 PM
I'm going to become a Finladia fan.  I'm tired of the yearly letdowns of being a Pointer baseball fan.  Not that they don't have winning seasons but they just have too much talent to lose to Oshkosh this year.  Apparently Oshkosh is 1,000 times better than I thought.


It's easy to understand your frustration given the way you overreact to virtually every game played. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 07, 2010, 05:27:57 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2010, 05:20:38 PM
Quote from: szlongball on April 07, 2010, 04:05:22 PM

Hopefully Jordan Zimmermann can recover completely and have a successful pro career. He has at least made it to the pros as oppossed to the Whitewater pitchers previously drafted(jury still out on Dott).

We all are biased towards the schools that we have ties to. Not saying Bloom is better than Lechnir or anybody else in the WIAC.


Does the name Bob Wickman ring a bell.  Zimmerman can only hope to have the career Wickman did.
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Wickman

Perhaps you meant to say recently drafted. ;)

For the record I think Zimmerman is one hell of a good pitcher and I hope he has a long and successful MLB career.

Both Lechnir and Bloom have done pretty well for themselves.  

Sorry about that, yes I meant recently drafted.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 07, 2010, 05:31:29 PM
I saw derek jeter make an error once...so following the logic of our favorite poster, he's clearly the worst defensive player in all MLB.  Doesn't matter that maybe it took a bad hop or a bug flew in his eye, he's at least 1,000 times worse than the next worse defensive player because he should have made that play!  Never mind his decade and a half of service in which he has cemented himself as a great defensive player, because the whole body of work means nothing.  That single play regardless of all other facts of life just cemented him as the worst defensive player ever!

Sadly that isn't even dramatized a little bit from some of the comments that have been made...Why waste your time making yourself out to be a complete moron.  Nobody on here wants to read that garbage!  Contribute something that makes sense just once...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 07, 2010, 05:33:30 PM
I agree with Dagger!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2010, 05:46:29 PM
Point plates 5 in the ninth but comes up short 13-10 in game one.
Game two: Point 2 (back to back triples from Douglas and Fritz), Oshkosh 1 (2 out home run) after one.
Point adds an unearned run in the second. 3-1 after two complete.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on April 07, 2010, 06:09:16 PM
So get pissed at me because I'm upset that Point is once again extremely underachieving.  I'm not going to sit back and say good job boys when they lost to a terrible Oshkosh team.  I don't care if it's at oshkosh there's no excuse whatsoever.  Oshkosh has lost way too much to be able to beat Point.  As far as never posting anything important on here it's BS I have just as much or more baseball/UWSP knowledge than probably 75% of people on D3.  Game 2 is do or die for Point today if they lose their looking at starting the WIAC possibly 0-6 after Platteville sticks it to them this weekend.  Platteville will be facing Lorenz and Van Beck.  We could see over 100 runs scored in 2 games on Saturday since Platteville will be throwing their bottom pitchers also.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on April 07, 2010, 06:19:48 PM
Quote from: pickleshiner on April 07, 2010, 06:09:16 PM
So get pissed at me because I'm upset that Point is once again extremely underachieving.  I'm not going to sit back and say good job boys when they lost to a terrible Oshkosh team.  I don't care if it's at oshkosh there's no excuse whatsoever.  Oshkosh has lost way too much to be able to beat Point.  As far as never posting anything important on here it's BS I have just as much or more baseball/UWSP knowledge than probably 75% of people on D3.  Game 2 is do or die for Point today if they lose their looking at starting the WIAC possibly 0-6 after Platteville sticks it to them this weekend.  Platteville will be facing Lorenz and Van Beck.  We could see over 100 runs scored in 2 games on Saturday since Platteville will be throwing their bottom pitchers also.
100 runs? Come on man.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2010, 06:29:34 PM
Point gets 3 runs in the third on a RBI single from Jirschele and a two run home run from Krueger. 6-1 after 3.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on April 07, 2010, 06:42:59 PM
9-1 after a Surman 2 run single....check that 11-1 after a Jirshele 2 run homer...too bad pickleshiner is a Finlandia fan now. LOL
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on April 07, 2010, 06:48:06 PM
Here's the deal I'm not happy with a split and never will be.  I expected a lot from this year's team and never anticipated they would have 5 losses already.  Nice to see Jirsch stick it to his old team though.  I would love to get together with everyone on this site and down about 25 1/2 barrels before the Point-Platteville series this weekend and talk Point sports I mean every sport including women's and Coach Egner.  Egner is big time.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on April 07, 2010, 07:31:39 PM
Game two of Point and Oshkosh is postponed in the 4th inning due to rain with Point leading 11-1.  It will be continued on April 14th at 11am when Point travels back to UWO for the 2nd double header of the 4 game series.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 07, 2010, 08:41:34 PM
I don't have much to add since the games were streamed and had live stats, but the wind made it a hitter's day. It was gusting toward RF, where most of the HR's went. Most days, a majority of those balls are either outs or doubles. But Mrkvicka's and Richter's were out most days, most parks.

It took too long for Delorit to find it. Once he did, he was pretty good for a few innings. Kanny left everything up in the last two innings. That'll happen when the pitch count gets up there. It was a simple equation ... Kanny > Delorit.

Lechnir has quite a patchwork D going thanks to injuries/quitter. Hiroskey can't even throw overhand yet grinding it out. Some fairly bad D all day by both teams. An Oshkosh infielder couldn't field a ball and an UWSP outfielder helped UWO by playing on the warning track and still not getting to the wall for fly balls. And anything shy of 380 feet was a single to CF for UWO.

Bloom just shook his head all day. So did I. Conditions weren't great, but that was a sloppy, weird Game 1 of the WIAC season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 08, 2010, 10:45:35 AM
The WARHAWK/Platteville twin bill rescheduled yesterday to today has been rescheduled to tomorrow.  That means both teams will be playing six games in three days.  WHITEWATER will play Stout Saturday and Sunday and Platteville takes on Point both days. The pitching staffs will be taxed to the max.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 08, 2010, 11:41:48 AM
Quote from: OshDude on April 07, 2010, 08:41:34 PM
I don't have much to add since the games were streamed and had live stats, but the wind made it a hitter's day. It was gusting toward RF, where most of the HR's went. Most days, a majority of those balls are either outs or doubles. But Mrkvicka's and Richter's were out most days, most parks.

It took too long for Delorit to find it. Once he did, he was pretty good for a few innings. Kanny left everything up in the last two innings. That'll happen when the pitch count gets up there. It was a simple equation ... Kanny > Delorit.

Lechnir has quite a patchwork D going thanks to injuries/quitter. Hiroskey can't even throw overhand yet grinding it out. Some fairly bad D all day by both teams. An Oshkosh infielder couldn't field a ball and an UWSP outfielder helped UWO by playing on the warning track and still not getting to the wall for fly balls. And anything shy of 380 feet was a single to CF for UWO.

Bloom just shook his head all day. So did I. Conditions weren't great, but that was a sloppy, weird Game 1 of the WIAC season.
Seems like whenever Point plays in Oshkosh weird things happen.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 08, 2010, 01:42:57 PM
Quote from: szlongball on April 07, 2010, 04:05:22 PM
Point is still in the last 6 years Oshkosh has not gone on to Appleton. Point doesn't have the history that Oshkosh has for being successful for 40 years. It is a world of what have you done lately, not 7 years ago. For Point to have only 1 more trip than Oshkosh in the last 7 years doesn't really matter to me. Point has started to establish itself as a quality program, that was the point I was trying to make.
I guess it's all about how you want to spin it....  Below you will find the number of Regular Season WIAC Championships (ties included) over the past six years.

Whitewater-5
Oshkosh-2
Stevens Point-1

Now obviously this doesn't include the WIAC Tournament, which Point has absolutely dominated as of late.  I guess I just put a little bit more weight in the regular season, because it shows what team was the best over the long haul, and not who was the best over one weekend.  As you can see, both Oshkosh and Point have quite a bit of work to do to get to the same level as Whitewater.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on April 08, 2010, 02:44:18 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 08, 2010, 01:42:57 PM
I guess it's all about how you want to spin it....  Below you will find the number of Regular Season WIAC Championships (ties included) over the past six years.

Whitewater-5
Oshkosh-2
Stevens Point-1

Now obviously this doesn't include the WIAC Tournament, which Point has absolutely dominated as of late.  I guess I just put a little bit more weight in the regular season, because it shows what team was the best over the long haul, and not who was the best over one weekend.  As you can see, both Oshkosh and Point have quite a bit of work to do to get to the same level as Whitewater.
I understand why you put more weight on the regular season, and a lot of people will do the same thing.  But I also have to disagree with saying the team that has the better regular season is the best team overall.  Some teams just play better when there isn't as much pressure on them like the regular season, and some teams play better when the season is on the line.  It all depends on what type of players make up your squad. 

Playing for Point from '05-'08, and winning every WIAC Tournament while I was there, I firmly believe that we were the best team in years '06 & '07 (World Series appearances, Jordan Zimmermann and a line up that 1-9 could hurt you with the long ball).  '05 Whitewater was a tad better (rhinehardt) as it proved to be in the Regional and going on to win the World Series, which I believe we could've won IF we had gotten passed Whitewater, but that's IF.  In '08 Whitewater may have been a tad better than us, but it's a tough call seeing how we beat them twice in the WIAC tournament.  In all my years I know we were better than Oshkosh.  Bold statement,  I know, but I believe that we were the better team, and we proved it time and time again in the WIAC tournament and in the Regional in 07. 

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on April 08, 2010, 02:48:26 PM
I would like to add a few things to what Brewers20 stated.  Josh Blaha(Perkins) came back a year too late as that may have put Point over the edge against Whitewater.  One could also argue Point may have won the title the year Doug Coe got injured down in Florida.  On the other hand I will never forget the comeback Point had against Ripon at Witter a few years ago allowing them to stay alive and make it to Appleton. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 08, 2010, 04:27:20 PM
whitewater caught a break with playing stout on the tail end of the their 6 games in 3 days stretch!  Platteville on the other hand is in a real tough situation, having to play to two top teams 6 games in a row over three days!  with an already thin pitching staff, I don't like their chances of coming out of this little stretch above 2-4...even with their high powered (for now) offense.  Whitewater could have been in a tough situation had point or oshkosh...or any other wiac team but stout, been on the tailend of their 6 straight games.  That's assuming that Stout is as bad as they have been in recent years, which I quite honestly have no clue if they are or not...

As for our discussion of who's better and why...regular season in the WIAC is crazy with the way the schedules are crammed into two months, and a lot of external factors can influence the outcome of the regular season.  One year at point we played 19 of 24 conference games at home!  The regular season may indicate who's more consistent, but by almost anyone's standards, the team that walks off the field last come the end of the year is the better team!  catching a couple breaks during the regular season will not show up until it's all on the line, and that's when your true colors as a team shine...and that's where recently both point and whitewater have shined.  Oshkosh is slipping into obscurity, in my opinion.  I know some will disagree, but young players in this state no longer look at UWO as they once did, and as much as I respect the man and his accomplishments, it's in large part due to the coach and his ways of treating individuals.  There's too many first person accounts from too many people to even argue that fact!  They still compete, and sometimes very well, but they simply can  not win a big game in the past 6 years or so to save their lives.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 08, 2010, 11:43:07 PM
Thanks Brewer20 and Dagger.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 09, 2010, 09:35:59 AM
Quote from: Brewers20 on April 08, 2010, 02:44:18 PM
I understand why you put more weight on the regular season, and a lot of people will do the same thing.  But I also have to disagree with saying the team that has the better regular season is the best team overall.  Some teams just play better when there isn't as much pressure on them like the regular season, and some teams play better when the season is on the line.  It all depends on what type of players make up your squad.


So the team that wins the battle is better than the team that wins the war?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on April 09, 2010, 09:45:39 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 09, 2010, 09:35:59 AM
Quote from: Brewers20 on April 08, 2010, 02:44:18 PM
I understand why you put more weight on the regular season, and a lot of people will do the same thing.  But I also have to disagree with saying the team that has the better regular season is the best team overall.  Some teams just play better when there isn't as much pressure on them like the regular season, and some teams play better when the season is on the line.  It all depends on what type of players make up your squad.


So the team that wins the battle is better than the team that wins the war?

It is a kind of backwards scenario in sports I suppose.  The war of the season gets you ready for the battle at the end.  But the best teams are the ones who win the battles when everything is on the line and the losers are sent home to think about next year.  If it were the other way around, the postseason tournaments would be rather anti-climactic.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIACLUV on April 09, 2010, 11:28:13 AM
Conferences do have the right to choose how they crown their champion that gets the bid to the tournament (Reg. season champ or conf tourn). The coaches in the league have made the decision that a conference tournament is the best way to determine who represents the conference. And for Point's sake that's a good decision.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 09, 2010, 11:47:08 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 09, 2010, 09:35:59 AM
Quote from: Brewers20 on April 08, 2010, 02:44:18 PM
I understand why you put more weight on the regular season, and a lot of people will do the same thing.  But I also have to disagree with saying the team that has the better regular season is the best team overall.  Some teams just play better when there isn't as much pressure on them like the regular season, and some teams play better when the season is on the line.  It all depends on what type of players make up your squad.


So the team that wins the battle is better than the team that wins the war?

By winning the last battle, the one that dictates the rest of your summer (playing or watching), you win the war!  You can win all the little skirmishes along the way and feel good about yourselves in doing so, but until that decisive battle is won and you are victorious your past "victories" are pretty much worthless....

...remember as I'm saying this that I'm not taking sides here, as I stated yesterday, both ww and point have had successes in postseason play over the past couple of years!  I just think the regular season gets your ready to play in the postseason.  I'm not taking away the feat of winning regular season crowns, because we all know that's no easy task in the WIAC, but I personally put more weight on the postseason tournament myself...and that was true before I ever joined the WIAC and college ball
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 09, 2010, 12:08:52 PM
Quote from: Brewers20 on April 08, 2010, 02:44:18 PM
In all my years I know we were better than Oshkosh.  Bold statement,  I know, but I believe that we were the better team, and we proved it time and time again in the WIAC tournament and in the Regional in 07. 
Yet if you look at the scores, Oshkosh won the season series against you in 2008?  Hmm....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 09, 2010, 01:45:06 PM
Quote from: MIACLUV on April 09, 2010, 11:28:13 AM
Conferences do have the right to choose how they crown their champion that gets the bid to the tournament (Reg. season champ or conf tourn). The coaches in the league have made the decision that a conference tournament is the best way to determine who represents the conference. And for Point's sake that's a good decision.

The main reason the coaches vote for it has nothing to do with wining the final battle or feeling that it's the best way to determine who represents the conference and everything to do with not having a regular season championship guaranteed and the desire to get a second chance. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 09, 2010, 02:25:33 PM
well it's not like the WIAC is different from any other conference at any level.  Competitive sports across all levels and all different types, use playoffs to determine the "best" team.  Based on that format, those that find ways to win in the postseason are the best team, period.  Maybe not necessarily the most talented team, because it's no secret that the most talented teams don't always win, but the best TEAM.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 09, 2010, 02:35:38 PM
WW scored on a ground ball to the P?  how the H does that happen with a guy on third? haha...1-0 hawks after 2 1/2
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on April 09, 2010, 03:03:11 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 09, 2010, 12:08:52 PM
Quote from: Brewers20 on April 08, 2010, 02:44:18 PM
In all my years I know we were better than Oshkosh.  Bold statement,  I know, but I believe that we were the better team, and we proved it time and time again in the WIAC tournament and in the Regional in 07. 
Yet if you look at the scores, Oshkosh won the season series against you in 2008?  Hmm....
Then we sh** on them the first game of the WIAC tourney 10-0 in 8 innings in 2008...hmm
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 09, 2010, 03:58:23 PM
WW came alive after a relatively slow start, to put up 15 runs on 13 (to this point) in game one.  Top of the 7th right now...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 09, 2010, 04:19:24 PM
The WARHAWKS take game one from Platteville 15-2.  Riley Tincher (6-0) gets the win no hitting the Pioneers for 5.2 innings before surrendering a pair of hits and being relieved by Eric Schmitz.  Jordan Stine (2x4, 4 RS), Ben Kuhlmann (2x5, 2 RS, 2 RBI), Rob Coe (3x4, 2 RS, 3 RBI) and Mike Kenseth (2x4, 2 RBI) all had multiple hits in the 13 hit WARHAWK offense.  Platteville helps out with 5 errors.

Trailing 4-0 Platteville scored three in the 4th, two in the 5th and a single run in the 6th to go up 6-4.  However the WARHAWKS rallied for three runs in the ninth on four hits, a pair of wild pitches and a passed ball to retake the lead 7-6 and after Platteville put runners at first and third in the bottom of the inning with two outs struck out Aaron Hobson to preserve the win.  Aaron Lietner started and went 4.2 innings.  Kyle Lee (3-0) got the win with 3.1 innings in relief and Ben Versnick (2) earned a save by finishing the final inning.  Kuhlmann (2x5, 1 RBI) and Ryan Leavit (2x5, 1 RBI) had multiple hits and Putnam had an RBI.  Platteville's defense was better this game committing only a single error however four Pioneer pitchers threw five wild pitches, hit a batter and committed a balk.  
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on April 10, 2010, 12:02:48 AM
Whitewater also came up with a huge win in game 2 coming from behind in the 9th.  Hopefully Point can get a split this weekend since their at home but I'm a little concerned with all the injuries.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 10, 2010, 10:09:24 AM
Quote from: Dagger on April 09, 2010, 02:25:33 PM
well it's not like the WIAC is different from any other conference at any level.  Competitive sports across all levels and all different types, use playoffs to determine the "best" team.  Based on that format, those that find ways to win in the postseason are the best team, period.  Maybe not necessarily the most talented team, because it's no secret that the most talented teams don't always win, but the best TEAM.

There's where we're having different opinions.  I think the "best" team is the most "talented" team whether they win the conference tournament championship or not. 

How about this scenario.  Team A beats team B 4-0 in conference play and wins the conference championship.  Team B finishes third.  As the 3 seed team B beats team A in the conference tournament championship and wins the automatic invite.  Then you would say team B is the better team despite the fact they were beaten 4 out of 5 times by team A. 

It's true that the most talented team doesn't always win but I don't think that means, based on the outcome of one game of five, they are the better team.  The better team that day perhaps but not the better team based on the overall body of work.  That just doesn't make sense to my way of thinking.

But to each their own.  Everyone has an opinion and the fact two vary doesn't mean one is correct and the other is wrong.  It just means that they are different.



Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 10, 2010, 11:51:37 AM
Quote from: Brewers20 on April 09, 2010, 03:03:11 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 09, 2010, 12:08:52 PM
Quote from: Brewers20 on April 08, 2010, 02:44:18 PM
In all my years I know we were better than Oshkosh.  Bold statement,  I know, but I believe that we were the better team, and we proved it time and time again in the WIAC tournament and in the Regional in 07. 
Yet if you look at the scores, Oshkosh won the season series against you in 2008?  Hmm....
Then we sh** on them the first game of the WIAC tourney 10-0 in 8 innings in 2008...hmm
And yet still lost the season series 3-2....  How does that happen if as you put it, they were "the better team?"  Hmm....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 10, 2010, 06:27:56 PM
WARHAWKS win a pair of 7 inning affairs 21-6 and 15-3.  In the first game the WARHAWKS led 18-0 after four innings.  Jason Hooper (2-0) got the start gave up five hits striking out four in four innings for the win.  All of Stout's runs came against a pair of freshman pitchers, Andrew Bauer and Brock Liston, who pitched the final three innings.  Jordan Stine led the 18 hit WARHAWK offense going 5x5 with 5 RS and 5 RBI.  Daniel Putnam (3x4, 3 RS, 3 RBI) and Rob Coe (2x4, 2 RS, 2 RBI) each hit home runs.  Jeff Donovan (2x4, 2 RBI) and Matt Beyer (2x2, 2 RS, 2 RBI, Double) also had multiple hits. 

Jeff Donovan (1-0) got the start and the win in game two.  Stout scored a run in the first inning and two in the second however the WARHAWKS scored five in both innings to lead 10-3.  Donovan allowed five hits, all in the first two innings, and then retired 12 consecutive Blue Devils in the third through sixth innings. He finished with 4 strikeouts.  Bryan Dominick put the Blue Devils down in order in the seventh.  Donovan also led the WARHAWK offense going 3x4, 2 RS, 5 RBI which included a double.  Ben Kuhlmann went 3x4, 3 RS, 1 RBI on a solo home run.  Stine (2x3, 3 RBI) and Ryan Leavitt (2x4, 2 RBI, Double) had multiple hits.  Mike Kenseth (2 RBI, Triple), Matt Beyer  (2 RBI, Double) and Rob Coe (2 RBI) had multiple RBIs. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on April 10, 2010, 06:49:44 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 10, 2010, 06:27:56 PM
WARHAWKS win a pair of 7 inning affairs 21-6 and 15-3.  Jason Hooper gets the win in the first one and Jeff Donovan gets the W in the second game.  More to follow once the box score becomes available.

That's how you conserve your pitching when you play double headers for three straight days....just play seven inning games!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 10, 2010, 08:42:13 PM
Point takes both ends from Platteville 14-5, 11-10
Oshkosh splits with Superior 10-8, 3-11
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on April 10, 2010, 10:26:10 PM
I was at the Point DH today and can say "It was a great day to be a Pointer"  The wind was blowing out about 25-35 MPH and both teams took advantage.  Point had 11 HR'S in the 2 games.  Lorenz looked good for the most part in game 1 and gave up a pop up grand slam that made the score 6-5.  Fritz and Surman had huge days at the plate.  This is certainly another typical Point team relying on home runs.  I'm guessing they'll throw Williams and Delorit tomorrow but who knows.  I don't think Platteville will have much pitching so perhaps Point will throw Archie 1 of the 2 games and have Williams finish up the Oshkosh game he started and start the 2nd game on Wednesday assuming Point 10 runs Oshkosh the game their up 11-1.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 10, 2010, 10:32:40 PM
Quote from: pickleshiner on April 10, 2010, 10:26:10 PM
I was at the Point DH today and can say "It was a great day to be a Pointer" 

So I take it that you are you off the Findlandia bandwagon now. :D   
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Post by: BoBo on April 10, 2010, 10:36:03 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 10, 2010, 10:32:40 PM
Quote from: pickleshiner on April 10, 2010, 10:26:10 PM
I was at the Point DH today and can say "It was a great day to be a Pointer"  

So I take it that you are you off the Findlandia bandwagon now. :D  

That depends on which way the wind blows tomorrow!!  ;) ;D

Quote from: pickleshiner on April 10, 2010, 10:26:10 PM
The wind was blowing out about 25-35 MPH and both teams took advantage.  Point had 11 HR'S in the 2 games. 

10 home runs in the DH sweep for Point and only 2 for Platteville. From a HR standpoint, not sure how both teams took advantage of the gale force wind blowing out on this day!! ??? Were the majority of UWP's 16 hits in the 2 games of the wind blown variety?

The Pioneers weren't quite as hot as their bus on this day. (http://www.uwplatt.edu/athletics/baseball/2010/uwsp.HTML)
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Post by: pickleshiner on April 11, 2010, 08:21:49 AM
I always will be a Pointer fan win or lose.  It was nice to see the sweep but a little concerning that they rely so much on the HR.  I know both teams had the wind but I would like to see Point string more base hits together and score the traditional way.  It's going to be scary when Richter and Spurney get going.  I still can't see Whitewater losing more than 2-3 games in conference if any at all.  Their pitching is too deep and no one has the pitching in the WIAC this year to contend.  Williams and Delorit maybe can keep them in check but who else will be able to hold them down?
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Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 11, 2010, 07:12:01 PM
WARHAWKS take both ends of the double hitter from Stout today 10-3, 5-0.

Pitching on one days rest Riley Tincher (7-0) got the start in the first game and went 4.1 innings giving up three runs on seven hits while striking out four and walking one.  Kyle Lee was sharp in relief of Tincher facing the minimum eleven batters in 3.2 innings and striking out four.  Freshman Tom Kernt finished the ninth giving up a single hit.  Rob Coe went 3x3, 3 RS, 1 RBI.  Jordan Stine (2x4, 1 RBI), Nick Rechlitz (2x3, 1 RS, 2 RBI) and Matt Kenseth (2x3, 1 RS, 3 RBI, Double) all had a multiple hit game.  Ryan Leavitt (2 RBI) and Matt Beyer (2 RBI) had multiple RBIs.  

The real story of the day though was Jason Hooper (3-0) who starting for the second consecutive day hurled a complete game NO HITTER.  Hooper walked three but a double play kept the batters faced to two over the minimum twenty nine.  Matt Kenseth made the defensive play of the game when he raced to his left, dove to snag a grounder and then got to his feet and threw out the Stout player by half a step at first.  Ben Kuhlmann made some nice plays at second and Jordan Stine ran down a couple of well hit balls headed the gap in right center.  

Neither team scored in the first two innings before the WARHAWKS plated a single run when  Jeff Donovan's single drove in Stine who had doubled to lead off the  third inning.   WHITEWATER scored four more in the seventh when Kuhlmann drove in three with a bases loaded double and Ryan Leavitt drove in Kuhlmann with a single. Both Leavitt and Kenseth finished 2x3.

Weather conditions were a little unusual for Prucha today as a strong wind was blowing in from right field.  Kenseth (2), Kuhlmann, Donovan and Putnam all hit balls that ordinarily would have been home runs any other day.

Hooper's no hitter was the first thrown by a WARHAWK pitcher since 1993 when Todd Genke against Carrol College.  Adam Dominick and Steve Hedgepath combined to pitch one against Superior in 2008.  (Credit to WHITEWATER Sports Information staff.)    

Superior and Oshkosh split again today.  Oshkosh won the opener 13-5 and Superior smoked them 21-4 in the second game.
Point beat Platteville 8-5 in the first game and 11-6 in the second one.  

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Post by: GBMAN on April 11, 2010, 09:27:09 PM
The first no hitter I have ever witnessed in person.... All I can say is WOW.....
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Post by: UWP SID on April 11, 2010, 10:39:25 PM
UW-Stevens Point and UW-Platteville actually split today, with UWSP winning game one 8-5, and UWP taking the second 11-6.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on April 11, 2010, 10:50:21 PM
Here are some of my thoughts from today around the league starting with Point-Platteville.  I had no idea that Iverson was a pitcher and I'll tell you what he looked more impressive too me today than Archie, Fritz, or Seidl.  Point may have a diamond in the rough in that kid.  I'm certainly never happy to see Point lose but I'll take 3 out of 4.  Too much inconsistency in the lineup right now but a lot of hard hit balls right at people.  I know it's early but I just get that feeling that everyone in the WIAC realizes Whitewater will take the regular season unless they have a serious injury like Point had in losing Koback.  Point should lock down 2nd but who knows.  How about Superior piss pounding Oshkosh the last game today?  I never thought in my lifetime I would see Oshkosh lose by the mercy rule to Superior?  Congrats to Superior on splitting with Oshkosh even though Oshkosh is way down this year.  Great coaching by Whitewater to turn around and throw Tincher and Hooper again today and congrats on a no hitter to Hooper.  Stouts lineup 1-6 is really good so that's a rather impressive feat.  I'm still scratching my head a little on why Point brought Delorit in for the save today but didn't start him for the final game.  I've heard he takes a while to recover but my point is he shouldn't have come in at all if he wasn't going to be available for the last game.  Point absolutely must win all 3 at Oshkosh on Wed and all 4 home next weekend vs Superior if they even want the Whitewater series to have meaning for a conference title.  The only other thing I would like to vent about is why is Eric Fritz on the mound?  That's a huge risk to put arguably your best player/infielder on the mound and risk an arm injury.  I realize they have tons of depth in the infield with Jirsch, Douglas, Tuschen, but it just doesn't make sense to me.  Not like he's a bad pitcher or anything but they have tons of arms that are just as good or better.  They can't afford for him to get a tired arm and not be able to make the tough throws from short.  What a weekend for Fritz by the way!  Richter had some tough luck once again hit 2 balls today right on the dot at the pitcher and to the wall in center. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on April 12, 2010, 06:41:30 AM
I was at the Point/Platteville DH on Saturday and I have to say that Fritz is the hottest hitter for the Pointers right now.  Everything he swung at seemed to be hit hard.  Great to see his stick is coming around.  The D was a little shaky at times, they'll have to clean that up before they play the Warhawks.  I talked with two of the assistants on Saturday evening and both said that there is no way in he** Oshkosh should even come close to beating them.  Sounds like they're down more than we think.  Both assistants were disappointed when the poor UWO team walked away with a victory last Wednesday.  Sounds like Point will have something to prove this Wed. 
Fritz pitching...the assistants i talked to said that he just pounds the zone and makes guys put the ball in play.  I too am a little hesitant on putting too much stress on the shortstop, but I don't think Blooms intentions are to throw him a ton, I'm sure he just wanted to get him some innings in case they need to use him in tournament play, because we all know,
if you get in that losers bracket the pitching can get pretty thin.  All in all Ty Lorenz looked great.  The grand slam that was hit off of him was VERY wind aided to say the least.  On a day with no wind thats a shallow flyball to left, the kid just hit it high enough and with enough back spin for the wind to carry it over the wall.  Walking away 3 out of 4 this weekend was a little bit of a disappointment, seeing that the Platteville team was not very impressive.  But thats why you play the game.  I remember we lost a game to a 4-17 team in Stout my senior year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 12, 2010, 10:02:50 AM
Quote from: UWP SID on April 11, 2010, 10:39:25 PM
UW-Stevens Point and UW-Platteville actually split today, with UWSP winning game one 8-5, and UWP taking the second 11-6.

Thanks for correcting me.  The information on Stevens Point (schedule page) website at the time was confusing.  While the score was indicated 6-11, there was a "W" next to it implying that Point had won.  Also when I checked Point's record after Saturday's games and then compared it to the record shown on the website it appeared that Point had added two wins to their total once again making me think that they had won both games.   It all looks different today so maybe it was the viewer who was confused. ??? :D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 14, 2010, 09:53:19 AM
LaCrosse dropped both ends of a double hitter against St Olaf, 10-4, 4-0.
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Post by: Brewers20 on April 14, 2010, 07:33:58 PM
Well it looks like Point took care of business in Oshkosh today, winning game 1 9-2  and game 2 14-4.  Eric Fritz hit for the cycle in game 2, dude is having a monster year, congrats to him!...WW split with Platteville today so looks like Point is a game back from the Hawks for the top spot. 
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Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 14, 2010, 07:50:31 PM
The WARHAWKS and Platteville split today's double hitter with the WARHAWKS winning the first game 12-2 in seven innings and losing the second one 8-4.  

Riley Tincher threw a four hitter with five strikeouts and a single walk to pick up his seventh win on the season in the first game.  Jeff Donovan went 3x5 including a home run, 2 RS and 4 RBI.  Ben Kuhlmann also had a home run and was 2X5, 2RS, 1 RBI.  Dan Putnam had a multiple hit day (2x4, 2 RS, 2 RBI, Double).  In a rare start Tim Conway had a triple that drove in 3 runs and Ryan Leavitt had an RBI.

Jason Hooper (3-1) took the loss in the second  game.  Platteville scored a pair of runs in both the first and second innings and led 6-2 after three innings.  They increased their lead to 8-2 with a pair of runs in the seventh.  The WARHAWKS scored twice in the ninth to cut to 8-4 and had the bases loaded when the final out was made.  Rob Coe (2x4) and Travis Wessels (2x3, 1 RS, 1 RBI, 2 Doubles) had multiple hits while Mike Kenseth and Putnam also had RBI.  

Point also won the suspended game 15-1.

Stout beat LaCrosse 5-4 in the first game.  LaCrosse is leading 8-4 after five innings in the second game.   Stout scored single runs in the sixth, seventh and eighth then scored three in the ninth to win game two 10-9. 
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Post by: pickleshiner on April 14, 2010, 08:09:49 PM
Now that's what I'm talking about Point.  That's the type of baseball I've been hoping for all year.  Fritz is in the running for D3 player of the year right now.  Iverson is going to get more and more innings this year.  Thanks Platteville.  I still have a feeling Platteville is going to have a shot at 3rd they should be able to handle Stout and Oshkosh.  Don't know how good LaCrosse and Superior are but Platteville can rake.
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Post by: brewcrew2008 on April 14, 2010, 10:34:15 PM
Yeah nice to see Point take care of business today and hopefully will do so this weekend against Superior to set up the big series with Whitewater next weekend. Interesting that Iverson's pitching although I'm not surprised seeing as how he's already played catcher, 2nd base, and outfield as a Pointer but so far so good on the mound. Hopefully the offense will keep rolling and the pitching will hold up
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Post by: szlongball on April 14, 2010, 11:10:12 PM
Was in Oshkosh today to watch dismantling of Oshkosh. Fritz was just an animal at the plate and fantastic defensively.
Thinking Kannenberg could go the way of Ruebens if he continues to throw the amount of pitches he has over the last week. You could tell he had nothing left, but no one in the bullpen til late in the game. Oshkosh is in real trouble with their pitching. Kannenberg can't pitch every game(and shouldn't). I could see Oshkosh not making the top 3 at the end of the season. Not surprised that Hooper got the loss today after throwing a no-hitter on Sunday.  Scott Williams looked good for throwing as much as he has over the last week. Coaches need to remember you can't keep running the same guy out on the mound all the time. Come tournament time, you could be in a world of hurt(and that goes for all 3 coaches not just Lechnir).  That said, I would be surprised if WW doesn't sweep Oshkosh when they get together. And with Oshkosh losing players like they are(quiting after the season starts), it could get really UGLY for them.
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Post by: pickleshiner on April 15, 2010, 01:03:06 AM
Does anyone know where Eichstadt is going to play next year after quitting Oshkosh this year?  As much as I love seeing Point beat Oshkosh it's really hurting the strength of the WIAC this year to have Oshkosh this down.  I also cannot see them taking a game vs Whitewater but will hold out hope that they take 1 game.  You can't control injuries but there has to be a reason why guys are transferring/quitting during the season at Oshkosh. 
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Post by: Barber Greene on April 15, 2010, 10:58:12 AM
I was at the Platteville games yesterday. Kinda surprised that Hooper started given the amount of pitching that he did over the weekend.  Don't know if he was tired but he definitely wasn't fooling the Platteville hitters.  In the second game, the Warhawks were actually hitting the ball pretty well. Lots of line drives that unfortunately went directly to Platteville defenders.

Also, Aaron Hopson was a monster at the plate for Platteville yesterday. A groan was heard from the Warhawk faithful every time he came to the plate. He hit a homer off of Hooper that is probably still in the stratosphere.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 16, 2010, 03:04:38 PM
Quote from: brewcrew2008 on April 14, 2010, 10:34:15 PM
Interesting that Iverson's pitching although I'm not surprised seeing as how he's already played catcher, 2nd base, and outfield as a Pointer but so far so good on the mound.
Sounds as if that is about all he will be playing this season, as he sustained an injury to his glove hand that also prevents him from swinging a bat.  Pitcher is likely the only position he can play at this time....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 16, 2010, 03:21:38 PM
Quote from: szlongball on April 14, 2010, 11:10:12 PM
Was in Oshkosh today to watch dismantling of Oshkosh. Fritz was just an animal at the plate and fantastic defensively.
Thinking Kannenberg could go the way of Ruebens if he continues to throw the amount of pitches he has over the last week. You could tell he had nothing left, but no one in the bullpen til late in the game. Oshkosh is in real trouble with their pitching. Kannenberg can't pitch every game(and shouldn't). I could see Oshkosh not making the top 3 at the end of the season. Not surprised that Hooper got the loss today after throwing a no-hitter on Sunday.  Scott Williams looked good for throwing as much as he has over the last week. Coaches need to remember you can't keep running the same guy out on the mound all the time. Come tournament time, you could be in a world of hurt(and that goes for all 3 coaches not just Lechnir).  That said, I would be surprised if WW doesn't sweep Oshkosh when they get together. And with Oshkosh losing players like they are(quiting after the season starts), it could get really UGLY for them.
I was also there, and this UWO team is as down as any UWO team I have seen in the last 20 years, including the 2002 team that finished 17-20-1.  If they were in the MWC this season, they would have a hard time even qualifying for their Conference Tournament.

As far as Williams goes, what was the point of bringing him in for two innings of Game #1, with an 11-5 lead?  I understand he wanted to get him some work, but why not wait until Game #2, especially if it was a close game?  Essentially by throwing him in Game #1, he was unavailable for Game #2, as it would appear Williams is getting set up to be a weekend starter instead of a Wednesday starter.  Just seemed like a bit of a head-scratcher.

Right now it seems if Whitewater doesn't have much faith in any of their pitchers not named Hooper or Tincher.  Hard to believe that even with them both starting two games over the weekend that they both started again on Wednesday.  For as much heat as Lechnir catches about over-working his pitchers, I can't remember him ever starting a guy three times in a five day period like Vodenlich did with both Hooper and Tincher this weekend.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 16, 2010, 03:23:34 PM
Quote from: pickleshiner on April 15, 2010, 01:03:06 AM
Does anyone know where Eichstadt is going to play next year after quitting Oshkosh this year?  As much as I love seeing Point beat Oshkosh it's really hurting the strength of the WIAC this year to have Oshkosh this down.  I also cannot see them taking a game vs Whitewater but will hold out hope that they take 1 game.  You can't control injuries but there has to be a reason why guys are transferring/quitting during the season at Oshkosh. 
If he is going to actually play next year, he will have to go to a non-WIAC school, since he already had played for two years at Oshkosh.  If he wants to go to a WIAC school, he will have to sit out next season and resume playing in 2012.
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Post by: BigPoppa on April 16, 2010, 03:38:34 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 16, 2010, 03:23:34 PM
Quote from: pickleshiner on April 15, 2010, 01:03:06 AM
Does anyone know where Eichstadt is going to play next year after quitting Oshkosh this year?  As much as I love seeing Point beat Oshkosh it's really hurting the strength of the WIAC this year to have Oshkosh this down.  I also cannot see them taking a game vs Whitewater but will hold out hope that they take 1 game.  You can't control injuries but there has to be a reason why guys are transferring/quitting during the season at Oshkosh. 
If he is going to actually play next year, he will have to go to a non-WIAC school, since he already had played for two years at Oshkosh.  If he wants to go to a WIAC school, he will have to sit out next season and resume playing in 2012.

Carthage? Augie is great at getting kids thast leave other programs.
Where is he from?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 16, 2010, 03:46:59 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 16, 2010, 03:38:34 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 16, 2010, 03:23:34 PM
Quote from: pickleshiner on April 15, 2010, 01:03:06 AM
Does anyone know where Eichstadt is going to play next year after quitting Oshkosh this year?  As much as I love seeing Point beat Oshkosh it's really hurting the strength of the WIAC this year to have Oshkosh this down.  I also cannot see them taking a game vs Whitewater but will hold out hope that they take 1 game.  You can't control injuries but there has to be a reason why guys are transferring/quitting during the season at Oshkosh.
If he is going to actually play next year, he will have to go to a non-WIAC school, since he already had played for two years at Oshkosh.  If he wants to go to a WIAC school, he will have to sit out next season and resume playing in 2012.
Carthage? Augie is great at getting kids thast leave other programs.
Where is he from?
He is an Appleton kid, and you and I both know he has been very successful with the Appleton area kids in the past.  Boe Baitinger, Dan Gassner, Justin Hallock, and Dusty Reid are just a few that come to mind.
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Post by: brewcrew2008 on April 17, 2010, 04:29:58 PM
Nice to see Point have live stats at home games now, maybe its been going on for awhile but I just realized it today
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Post by: Titan20 on April 17, 2010, 07:28:51 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 16, 2010, 03:46:59 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 16, 2010, 03:38:34 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 16, 2010, 03:23:34 PM
Quote from: pickleshiner on April 15, 2010, 01:03:06 AM
Does anyone know where Eichstadt is going to play next year after quitting Oshkosh this year?  As much as I love seeing Point beat Oshkosh it's really hurting the strength of the WIAC this year to have Oshkosh this down.  I also cannot see them taking a game vs Whitewater but will hold out hope that they take 1 game.  You can't control injuries but there has to be a reason why guys are transferring/quitting during the season at Oshkosh.
If he is going to actually play next year, he will have to go to a non-WIAC school, since he already had played for two years at Oshkosh.  If he wants to go to a WIAC school, he will have to sit out next season and resume playing in 2012.
Carthage? Augie is great at getting kids thast leave other programs.
Where is he from?
He is an Appleton kid, and you and I both know he has been very successful with the Appleton area kids in the past.  Boe Baitinger, Dan Gassner, Justin Hallock, and Dusty Reid are just a few that come to mind.

maybe tom needs to start treating his players better and not threatening them by saying he's going to "bash his head in with a baseball bat when we get back"...that usually doesnt help his case...and there are many more incidents like this that have happened over the past few years...not a good way to keep players and help with recruiting...
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Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 17, 2010, 11:52:44 PM
The WARHAWKS took two from LaCrosse today 13-10 and 5-4 (10 innings). 

The WARHAWKS scored runs in each of the first four innings and led 7-4 in the first game.  LaCrosse took the lead 8-7 with four runs in the seventh.  The WARHAWKS answered with six runs in the eighth  to go on top 13-8.  LaCrosse scored a pair of runs in the ninth for the final score.  Aaron Leitner got the start for the WARHAWKS and went six innings. Kyle Lee (5-0) pitched the last three innings and got the win.  Jeff Donovan went 3X6 with 4 RS and 2 RBI that included a home run.  Ryan Leavitt (2X6, 4RS, 2 RBI) and Ben Kuhlmann (2X5, 2 RS, 2 RBI) also had home runs.  Tim Conway (2X4, 2 RS, Double) and Nick Rechlitz (2X4, 2 RS) had multiple hits.

In game two the WARHAWKS scored first and led 2-0 after the first inning.  LaCrosse got on the board and tied the game with single runs in the second and sixth innings.  The WARHAWKS regained the lead with a run in the seventh and added to it with another in the top of the eighth.  However LaCrosse tied the game a second time with a pair of runs in the bottom of the eighth.  Both teams had a runner on base in the ninth but neither could score and the game went to extra innings.  Mike Kenseth led off the WARHAWK tenth with a double and advanced to third on Conroy's sacrifice bunt.  After Rechlitz had lined out Kenseth scored the winning run on a wild pitch.  LaCrosse threatened to tie the game in the bottom of the tenth but Jordan Stine, after catching a fly out, threw out the runner at home.   Jeff Donovan got the start and went six innings allowing two runs on four hits and striking out three.  Riley Tincher relieved him and went two innings before being relieved by Kyle Lee (6-0) who got the win retiring the three batters he faced in the ninth before being relieved by Jason Hooper who picked up his first save on the season.  Donovan (2x4, 1 RS, 2 RBI) had another home run as did Rechlitz.  Leavitt (2x5), Stine (2x5), Rob Coe (2x5) and Conroy (2x3) had multiple hits. 

In other action:
Oshkosh split with Platteville winning the first game 14-3 and losing the second one 5-4.
Stevens Point took both ends of the double hitter from Superior 11-9 and 16-14.
Stout was beaten twice by Bethel 6-5 and 24-2 in nonconference action. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 18, 2010, 12:56:32 AM
Is it just me or is the quality of pitching in the WIAC absolutely terrible this year?
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Post by: Dagger on April 18, 2010, 11:32:02 AM
there's quality, it's just thin....I would say the depth of pitching in the WIAC is terrible this year.
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Post by: cubs on April 18, 2010, 12:51:45 PM
I would agree with szlongball on this one....  There are some teams who don't really even have a shut down pitcher, and those that do only have one.  The days of having a 1A and 1B seem to be non-existent this season, with Whitewater and Point being the closest with their combination Tincher/Hooper and Wiliams/Delorit.  By the time some teams are getting to their #3 and #4's, it's really getting ugly.
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Post by: cubs on April 18, 2010, 01:01:52 PM
Quote from: Titan20 on April 17, 2010, 07:28:51 PM
maybe tom needs to start treating his players better and not threatening them by saying he's going to "bash his head in with a baseball bat when we get back"...that usually doesnt help his case...and there are many more incidents like this that have happened over the past few years...not a good way to keep players and help with recruiting...
He treated me just fine for the four years I was there, and it wasn't as if I was an All Conference player or anything.  While he had a few choice words for me and others, it was nothing we couldn't handle. 

Some guys are just a bit tougher and have thicker skin than guys do now.  As soon as things get tough, it's easier to quit and have mom and dad come pick them up in Superior.  Wonder what these guys are going to do when they get in the real world and their boss gets on their case a bit......  Not exactly a guy I am going to be in a hurry to hire!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan20 on April 18, 2010, 05:17:06 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 18, 2010, 01:01:52 PM
Quote from: Titan20 on April 17, 2010, 07:28:51 PM
maybe tom needs to start treating his players better and not threatening them by saying he's going to "bash his head in with a baseball bat when we get back"...that usually doesnt help his case...and there are many more incidents like this that have happened over the past few years...not a good way to keep players and help with recruiting...
He treated me just fine for the four years I was there, and it wasn't as if I was an All Conference player or anything.  While he had a few choice words for me and others, it was nothing we couldn't handle. 

Some guys are just a bit tougher and have thicker skin than guys do now.  As soon as things get tough, it's easier to quit and have mom and dad come pick them up in Superior.  Wonder what these guys are going to do when they get in the real world and their boss gets on their case a bit......  Not exactly a guy I am going to be in a hurry to hire!!!

give me  a break...its real classy to have a coach tell u to get the "**** off the field and when we get back to oshkosh ur off my team"...so why would i stay on the team and be the TB for the rest of the weekend?  F that..and glad i did leave to btw...so i didnt have the embarrassment of raking up my own field for the regionals and not playing on it...must have missed out dang...and its not toughness..ive seen guys get choked out...not cool..but if u wanna call it toughness feel free...i dont care...and yes, if u are not a good player, u mean **** to him...theres a reason people are not going to oshkosh anymore...the stories are leaking out...
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Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 18, 2010, 08:16:07 PM
The WARHAWKS won both sides of today's double hitter, 8-6 & 8-4, to sweep the four game weekend series with LaCrosse.

The two teams were scoreless through three innings in the first game before LaCrosse got on the board first with a single run in the fourth.  The WARHAWKS answered with two runs in the fifth and three more in the sixth to go up 5-1.  In the seventh LaCrosse exploded for five and retook the lead 6-5 however the WARHAWKS answered with three in the eighth.  Jason Hooper got the start and went six innings giving up three runs on four hits and striking out four.  Bryan Dominick (1-0) relieved him and although he gave up a pair of runs in the single inning he pitched he picked up his first win of the season.  Kyle Lee and Ben Versnik pitched an inning apiece with Versnik recording his third save.  Ryan Leavitt (2x5, 2 RS, 4 RBI, Home run), Tim Conroy (2x4, 2 RS) and Nick Rechlitz (2x2, 2 RS, RBI) had multiple hit games while Ben Kuhlmann drove in a pair of runs with a double.

The WARHAWKS scored single runs in the first, third and seventh innings to lead 3-0 in the second game.  LaCrosse answered with a pair of runs in the seventh and a two out two run home run in the eighth inning gave them a 4-3 lead.  However the WARHAWKS put up a five spot in the ninth.  Jordan Stine's RBI single tied the game and Rob Coe's RBI single put the WARHAWKS ahead for good.  Riley Tincher started the game giving up five hits and two runs in seven innings.  Kyle Lee took the mound in the eighth but was quickly replaced by Eric Schmitz (1-0) who was credited with the win pitching just .2 innings.  Versnick finished the game by striking out the side after having hit a batter and surrendered a single.  Jordan Stine (2x4, 2 RS, RBI) was the only WARHAWK hitter to have multiple hits.  Daniel Putnam,  Jeff Donovan (Double), Rob Coe, Conroy, Mike Kenseth and Rechlitz all recorded RBIs. 

Around the league:

Stevens Point fell two games behind by splitting with Superior 5-10 and 11-1.  Point takes the series 3-1.
Oshkosh split with Platteville again today 4-5, 8-0.  The two split the series 2-2.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 18, 2010, 08:18:19 PM
So cubs, when did you play in Oshkosh? Played the last 5 years? Without knowing the full story on why players are leaving Oshkosh,what makes you an expect on what type of player they are or were? What makes you sure they would ask you for a job? Not sure you are someone I would want my son working for.  Don't think this has anything to do with having tough skin. You threaten me--I'm outta here! Guessing this also  not a case of running to mommy and daddy crying either.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on April 18, 2010, 11:40:03 PM
I didn't catch the Point Superior series but was happy to see Point won 3 of 4.  I also was happy to see live stats yesterday since I was out of state.  I see Point did spoil a 12 K performance by Delorit today.  Only 4 Earned must have been some errors.  Whitewater did what they had to do and that's win on the road in the WIAC.  Looks like LaCrosse isn't too far behind though. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 19, 2010, 09:04:01 AM
Never said I was an expert on anything.....  Anyway, when I was talking about hiring people, I was talking about it in general terms, not myself literally.

Btw-What specifically were you talking about when you said this wasn't a case of running to mommy and daddy?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 19, 2010, 09:41:53 AM
Quote from: Titan20 on April 17, 2010, 07:28:51 PM
maybe tom needs to start treating his players better and not threatening them by saying he's going to "bash his head in with a baseball bat when we get back"...that usually doesnt help his case...and there are many more incidents like this that have happened over the past few years...not a good way to keep players and help with recruiting...


I'm a little confused.  Did Lechnir say he was going to bash the player's head in with a baseball bat when we get back or did he say he was going to bash his own head in with a baseball bat when they got back?  If it was the former I would say that's a tad over the line but if it was the latter, he was going to bash his own head in, I would tend to think that he was using hyperbole and trying to communicate a high level of  frustration with the situation to make a point and it wasn't meant to be taken literally.  That doesn't seem all that horrendous.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan20 on April 19, 2010, 10:54:20 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 19, 2010, 09:04:01 AM
Never said I was an expert on anything.....  Anyway, when I was talking about hiring people, I was talking about it in general terms, not myself literally.

Btw-What specifically were you talking about when you said this wasn't a case of running to mommy and daddy?

I guess you can call it want you want...i did go home in Superior just because he said i was off his team...why would i want to stay?  There were plenty of players that i told i was leaving and knew that i was leaving and did nothing to stop me...so that shows that they dont care about me and didnt care i was leaving...so why would i want to stay when the team doesnt care or the coach?  My dad was at the game so i called him before he left and i went home...best decision i made ...and as for the job thing?  it isnt getting tough or anything...if my boss is going to threaten me and not want me part of the team why would i say on the team or with the job?  doesnt sound like a fun environment...
and warhawks...i was told that he said to the player that he was going to bash in his (the players) head when they got back from the dome and he quit...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on April 19, 2010, 12:03:22 PM
This sounds like a pretty honest recollection from a former player and if this stuff is true something should be done.  I know Lechnir is a "Legondary coach" whose probably on his way out after this year regardless but hopefully if they continue to struggle this year no one will get verbally abused or injured.  From knowing former guys on the Oshkosh team I've been told it takes a certain type of personality to play for him.  There has to be a reason why guys like Spurney, Wiczek, Jirschele, all left to go to Point and it's starting to all make sense.  Either way rumors have been spreading for close to 10 years now about Lechnir and his style and yet kids still make the decision to begin their career there thinking it must not be that bad.  One problem I do have with kids now though is a sense of entitlement.  Just because you were good in high school doesn't guarantee your a starter in the WIAC.  Some kids need to learn suck it up and be a man but I'm not condoning abuse if that is indeed the case.  My advice for Eichstadt would be to transfer to Point even if he has to sit out next year.  Thomas and Tuschen will be graduated after next year along with Fritz.  We could have Eichstadt at 2B, Jirschele at SS, and a slew of other Oshkosh transfers and win the world series.  Maybe Sebesta will be at Point next year in our outfield to replace Spurney.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 19, 2010, 12:33:51 PM
Quote from: Titan20 on April 19, 2010, 10:54:20 AM
[and warhawks...i was told that he said to the player that he was going to bash in his (the players) head when they got back from the dome and he quit...

If that was the case then I'd have to agree that it was over the line and if I were that player's parent I would be having a conversation with the athletic director.  I don't think coaching involves threatening kids with physical violence even if you didn't actually mean it literally.  

I think that if they are any good they should transfer to WHITEWATER.   ;D ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 19, 2010, 12:44:15 PM
Any player that held a position on the infield near an oshkosh dugout knows the type of verbal abuse that Lechnir can unleash on his players, and that in itself I have no problem with.  Yes he's a bit over the top, darn right hilarious sometimes, I know I have busted out laughing in the middle of an inning because of the tongue lashing that players would be receiving in the dugout, but that's part of playing at UW0.  When he get's to the point of making physical threats towards players, it's getting too far.  People need to wake up around there at some point and understand that all these kids are not quitting and/or transferring for no reason!  Yes he has had tremendous success in the past, but he's not now, and since his win totals are diminishing, his transgressions are starting to surface.  When you're winning you can get away with a lot of that stuff, but when you're not, players are a lot less willing to take the emotional (and physical?) abuse.  I'm not going to judge anybody for leaving the team having not known the circumstances.  If this is true it's absolutely ridiculous that this guy retains the rights to his job for any longer, in my opinion he has already done enough damage to a once proud baseball program!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan20 on April 19, 2010, 02:19:29 PM
I would have to agree sometimes it is down right hilarious...ive burst out laughing my fair share of times...all the quotes are priceless...i mean he has his own facebook page dedicated to them!  But when they happen to you in the heat of the moment, not to funny...he does take things to far and i no plenty of people that would agree with me...and your right dragger, people arent transfering for fun...there are reasons why people quit and/or transfer to different schools...i agree you have to be a more than a stud in high school to start or play in the WIAC...but clearly jirsh and drew icke were easily starters in the WIAC....and again your right...when he was winning, its easy to look past the abuse, but when ur not...like the last i dont know...decade....people dont take that crap aymore...including myself..Dont get me wrong, there is know doubt he is one of if not the smartest coach out there, let alone d3, but his coaching ways are what i do not, and many others, do not agree with...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan20 on April 19, 2010, 02:29:51 PM
In case you were wondering the facebook page...here it is...someone of these are classic if you know tom...i was laughing just reading these again...but some...i mean come on...a little of the top...

Baseball Quotes Updated: 07/21/08
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Monday, September 25, 2006 at 1:40am
Perlewitz, I bet if there was a hamburger in the dugout you would get over here a little quicker!!"

Spruney, ursophuked up you cant even take a full swing - do i teach check sssSSsswing in our program???!!!?? NO!!! I dont!!!!!!!! so next time you check swing - guess what...? YOUR DONE - for all of 2007!!

Fosler we all know you were up late last night emailing your old highschool teamate talking about our game tomorrow. Your urosphuked up you cant even swing against him. Everyone in the park knows your sSSsscard. FIGURE IT OUT!!! Awww, got hit in the nose, aww hit my nose - J*** F****** CHR****

Stanke your a psycho - and guess what? psychos dont get to play in our program.. do they??!!!!!!! DO THEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mick JE*** CH**** arre you that F**** up???!!! Everyone in the park knows your scared, even the umpires.....Your a MENTAL MIDGET - now he might be a mental midget but at least hes got drive ...and presence.

Mumpfer I had better have thosse charts beating me up to my F***** room!

Greg THATSSsss your F***** contribution today!!?/ 1/3 innings pitched 4 RUNSSssssS - FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFffffF F FF U aacacKKKKKK!

We didn't build this F***** program on SssplitsSSss DID WE!!!!!! DID WE!!!! You GuySSss make me SSSSSsssSick!

The yellow jackets of LAKE SSsssSsuperior REALLY SssssssssSSSsStung you didnt they brad!?!!!!!!!!

Stanke when i put you and Jordan in that means were cashing it in. You guys got it! When i put them in Im cashing it in , you guys dont cash it in, I do.

Peter your so F***** up you probably thought that pop up to the centerfielder was a hit...RIGHT!?

Bretl do you want me to get the F****** bullpen up the first innning? Cause I will - its F****** stout, give us a chance!

Hastings are you that F****ed up ? ARE YOU!!!?? Maybe we have to bring Brandon Burgert back from Marian.

Schwebke its a FLAIR, havent you learned anything in 4 years- F***** eh your 24 years old.

Stendahl don't look at me with that same face - you make me SsssSick!

Well looks like you guys were anxious to start your summer careers.

Roos you know how fast you were throwing? - 84! The scouts are wondering what I did to make you worse, they wonder what I did for stanke. You know how to throw faster? Get some arm speed- so that is your one thought in practice this week.

Guys its SSsssZimmerman for F**** sake - are you guys all that F***** up!!??

1984 conference champs, regional champs, world SSsseries
1886 conference champs regional champs, world series 2nd place
1988 Conferencve champs , regional champs, world series 4th
etc etc etc

I am your king and this is my kingdom.

"Stanke do you know how f****** pathetic you are...you're f******* gutless!"

"Is that the best you got stanke...a curveball 5 feet over his F****** head!

"Brad bring your right fielder back INTO OSHKOSH!"

"Shut your f****** mouth and listen for once, maybe you might actually learn something."

"Is that the best you got stanke...christ your pathetic."

"TJ this isnt the Shawno Sunday Social League!"

"Who the F*** do you think you are. Get the F*** out of my practice. That means for good!"

"Stop running around second base . Your not a F****** gerbel!"

"Tom stay on the mound. You'll walk 5 miles back and forth in 5 innings"

"Hendricks be decisive. I dont want this in between bullsh*t!"

"Hendricks what have you accomplised today besides coffeehousing with stanke? He can afford to do that, his pockets are a little deeper than yours now with your incident the other night."

"Christ you guys. He runs a 7.7 60 and you can't even throw him out."

"hey why dont u work on either ur left handed swing...or get in the weight room...cuz u dont have any power until you hit one out of this park."

"Hey Gow you ever think about killing yourself? - cause now would be a good time!...............somebody watch him."

"The nightmares over Sheres out of the game, you can all relax now"

"It didn't say PR on the workout sheet"
"Dont talk back! Shut your mouth and get your a** moving"

"Chapstick in your back pocket must be a new thing - eh Stendal?"

"You may think that injuries happen to unlucky people, guess what they don't - its just attrition - look at Ahman Green of the Packers, he blows out his hamstring and pee pee area once a year and what do they do? - they fire the strength and conditioning coach and hire a new one EVERY year!"

"Foley I bet you can bench women off of you heavier than that."

"TJ maybe you would have beat that throw out to first base if you would have drank 8 beers last night INSTEAD OF 18!"

" ******* had to sit in the bullpen with a dip in just to take the edge off."

"Stanke you might think Goeltz getting caught drinking in study hall is funny, but i dont think it is - that just shows your immaturity."

""Why don't you go bury yourself in the dugout so NO ONE knows you play for me!"

"Go watch yourself swing in the mirror and come back and tell me if you don't puke all over yourself...then again, why don't you just go to bed with your stats..maybe that will change your swing."

"Schmidt... in all my years of coaching, ive never seen someone swing and hit the plate. Thats the most embarrassing thing ive ever seen. Your horrible. "

What did you want him to do? Jump out of the way?!? He's got a bat in his hand, NOT A POGO STICK!!..............chicken sh*t!

Come here buddy and let me tell you something, you dont have to worry about that next year.....BEACAUSE I I GOT SOMEONE COMING!!!






I am your king and this is my kingdom...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: RSSmith on April 19, 2010, 03:49:09 PM
Quote from: Titan20 on April 19, 2010, 02:29:51 PM
In case you were wondering the facebook page...here it is...someone of these are classic if you know tom...i was laughing just reading these again...but some...i mean come on...a little of the top...

Baseball Quotes Updated: 07/21/08
Share
Monday, September 25, 2006 at 1:40am
Perlewitz, I bet if there was a hamburger in the dugout you would get over here a little quicker!!"

Spruney, ursophuked up you cant even take a full swing - do i teach check sssSSsswing in our program???!!!?? NO!!! I dont!!!!!!!! so next time you check swing - guess what...? YOUR DONE - for all of 2007!!

Fosler we all know you were up late last night emailing your old highschool teamate talking about our game tomorrow. Your urosphuked up you cant even swing against him. Everyone in the park knows your sSSsscard. FIGURE IT OUT!!! Awww, got hit in the nose, aww hit my nose - J*** F****** CHR****

Stanke your a psycho - and guess what? psychos dont get to play in our program.. do they??!!!!!!! DO THEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mick JE*** CH**** arre you that F**** up???!!! Everyone in the park knows your scared, even the umpires.....Your a MENTAL MIDGET - now he might be a mental midget but at least hes got drive ...and presence.

Mumpfer I had better have thosse charts beating me up to my F***** room!

Greg THATSSsss your F***** contribution today!!?/ 1/3 innings pitched 4 RUNSSssssS - FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFffffF F FF U aacacKKKKKK!

We didn't build this F***** program on SssplitsSSss DID WE!!!!!! DID WE!!!! You GuySSss make me SSSSSsssSick!

The yellow jackets of LAKE SSsssSsuperior REALLY SssssssssSSSsStung you didnt they brad!?!!!!!!!!

Stanke when i put you and Jordan in that means were cashing it in. You guys got it! When i put them in Im cashing it in , you guys dont cash it in, I do.

Peter your so F***** up you probably thought that pop up to the centerfielder was a hit...RIGHT!?

Bretl do you want me to get the F****** bullpen up the first innning? Cause I will - its F****** stout, give us a chance!

Hastings are you that F****ed up ? ARE YOU!!!?? Maybe we have to bring Brandon Burgert back from Marian.

Schwebke its a FLAIR, havent you learned anything in 4 years- F***** eh your 24 years old.

Stendahl don't look at me with that same face - you make me SsssSick!

Well looks like you guys were anxious to start your summer careers.

Roos you know how fast you were throwing? - 84! The scouts are wondering what I did to make you worse, they wonder what I did for stanke. You know how to throw faster? Get some arm speed- so that is your one thought in practice this week.

Guys its SSsssZimmerman for F**** sake - are you guys all that F***** up!!??

1984 conference champs, regional champs, world SSsseries
1886 conference champs regional champs, world series 2nd place
1988 Conferencve champs , regional champs, world series 4th
etc etc etc

I am your king and this is my kingdom.

"Stanke do you know how f****** pathetic you are...you're f******* gutless!"

"Is that the best you got stanke...a curveball 5 feet over his F****** head!

"Brad bring your right fielder back INTO OSHKOSH!"

"Shut your f****** mouth and listen for once, maybe you might actually learn something."

"Is that the best you got stanke...christ your pathetic."

"TJ this isnt the Shawno Sunday Social League!"

"Who the F*** do you think you are. Get the F*** out of my practice. That means for good!"

"Stop running around second base . Your not a F****** gerbel!"

"Tom stay on the mound. You'll walk 5 miles back and forth in 5 innings"

"Hendricks be decisive. I dont want this in between bullsh*t!"

"Hendricks what have you accomplised today besides coffeehousing with stanke? He can afford to do that, his pockets are a little deeper than yours now with your incident the other night."

"Christ you guys. He runs a 7.7 60 and you can't even throw him out."

"hey why dont u work on either ur left handed swing...or get in the weight room...cuz u dont have any power until you hit one out of this park."

"Hey Gow you ever think about killing yourself? - cause now would be a good time!...............somebody watch him."

"The nightmares over Sheres out of the game, you can all relax now"

"It didn't say PR on the workout sheet"
"Dont talk back! Shut your mouth and get your a** moving"

"Chapstick in your back pocket must be a new thing - eh Stendal?"

"You may think that injuries happen to unlucky people, guess what they don't - its just attrition - look at Ahman Green of the Packers, he blows out his hamstring and pee pee area once a year and what do they do? - they fire the strength and conditioning coach and hire a new one EVERY year!"

"Foley I bet you can bench women off of you heavier than that."

"TJ maybe you would have beat that throw out to first base if you would have drank 8 beers last night INSTEAD OF 18!"

" ******* had to sit in the bullpen with a dip in just to take the edge off."

"Stanke you might think Goeltz getting caught drinking in study hall is funny, but i dont think it is - that just shows your immaturity."

""Why don't you go bury yourself in the dugout so NO ONE knows you play for me!"

"Go watch yourself swing in the mirror and come back and tell me if you don't puke all over yourself...then again, why don't you just go to bed with your stats..maybe that will change your swing."

"Schmidt... in all my years of coaching, ive never seen someone swing and hit the plate. Thats the most embarrassing thing ive ever seen. Your horrible. "

What did you want him to do? Jump out of the way?!? He's got a bat in his hand, NOT A POGO STICK!!..............chicken sh*t!

Come here buddy and let me tell you something, you dont have to worry about that next year.....BEACAUSE I I GOT SOMEONE COMING!!!






I am your king and this is my kingdom...

That's hilarious.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on April 19, 2010, 03:51:13 PM
Quote from: RSSmith on April 19, 2010, 03:49:09 PM
Quote from: Titan20 on April 19, 2010, 02:29:51 PM
In case you were wondering the facebook page...here it is...someone of these are classic if you know tom...i was laughing just reading these again...but some...i mean come on...a little of the top...

Baseball Quotes Updated: 07/21/08
Share
Monday, September 25, 2006 at 1:40am
Perlewitz, I bet if there was a hamburger in the dugout you would get over here a little quicker!!"

Spruney, ursophuked up you cant even take a full swing - do i teach check sssSSsswing in our program???!!!?? NO!!! I dont!!!!!!!! so next time you check swing - guess what...? YOUR DONE - for all of 2007!!

Fosler we all know you were up late last night emailing your old highschool teamate talking about our game tomorrow. Your urosphuked up you cant even swing against him. Everyone in the park knows your sSSsscard. FIGURE IT OUT!!! Awww, got hit in the nose, aww hit my nose - J*** F****** CHR****

Stanke your a psycho - and guess what? psychos dont get to play in our program.. do they??!!!!!!! DO THEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mick JE*** CH**** arre you that F**** up???!!! Everyone in the park knows your scared, even the umpires.....Your a MENTAL MIDGET - now he might be a mental midget but at least hes got drive ...and presence.

Mumpfer I had better have thosse charts beating me up to my F***** room!

Greg THATSSsss your F***** contribution today!!?/ 1/3 innings pitched 4 RUNSSssssS - FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFffffF F FF U aacacKKKKKK!

We didn't build this F***** program on SssplitsSSss DID WE!!!!!! DID WE!!!! You GuySSss make me SSSSSsssSick!

The yellow jackets of LAKE SSsssSsuperior REALLY SssssssssSSSsStung you didnt they brad!?!!!!!!!!

Stanke when i put you and Jordan in that means were cashing it in. You guys got it! When i put them in Im cashing it in , you guys dont cash it in, I do.

Peter your so F***** up you probably thought that pop up to the centerfielder was a hit...RIGHT!?

Bretl do you want me to get the F****** bullpen up the first innning? Cause I will - its F****** stout, give us a chance!

Hastings are you that F****ed up ? ARE YOU!!!?? Maybe we have to bring Brandon Burgert back from Marian.

Schwebke its a FLAIR, havent you learned anything in 4 years- F***** eh your 24 years old.

Stendahl don't look at me with that same face - you make me SsssSick!

Well looks like you guys were anxious to start your summer careers.

Roos you know how fast you were throwing? - 84! The scouts are wondering what I did to make you worse, they wonder what I did for stanke. You know how to throw faster? Get some arm speed- so that is your one thought in practice this week.

Guys its SSsssZimmerman for F**** sake - are you guys all that F***** up!!??

1984 conference champs, regional champs, world SSsseries
1886 conference champs regional champs, world series 2nd place
1988 Conferencve champs , regional champs, world series 4th
etc etc etc

I am your king and this is my kingdom.

"Stanke do you know how f****** pathetic you are...you're f******* gutless!"

"Is that the best you got stanke...a curveball 5 feet over his F****** head!

"Brad bring your right fielder back INTO OSHKOSH!"

"Shut your f****** mouth and listen for once, maybe you might actually learn something."

"Is that the best you got stanke...christ your pathetic."

"TJ this isnt the Shawno Sunday Social League!"

"Who the F*** do you think you are. Get the F*** out of my practice. That means for good!"

"Stop running around second base . Your not a F****** gerbel!"

"Tom stay on the mound. You'll walk 5 miles back and forth in 5 innings"

"Hendricks be decisive. I dont want this in between bullsh*t!"

"Hendricks what have you accomplised today besides coffeehousing with stanke? He can afford to do that, his pockets are a little deeper than yours now with your incident the other night."

"Christ you guys. He runs a 7.7 60 and you can't even throw him out."

"hey why dont u work on either ur left handed swing...or get in the weight room...cuz u dont have any power until you hit one out of this park."

"Hey Gow you ever think about killing yourself? - cause now would be a good time!...............somebody watch him."

"The nightmares over Sheres out of the game, you can all relax now"

"It didn't say PR on the workout sheet"
"Dont talk back! Shut your mouth and get your a** moving"

"Chapstick in your back pocket must be a new thing - eh Stendal?"

"You may think that injuries happen to unlucky people, guess what they don't - its just attrition - look at Ahman Green of the Packers, he blows out his hamstring and pee pee area once a year and what do they do? - they fire the strength and conditioning coach and hire a new one EVERY year!"

"Foley I bet you can bench women off of you heavier than that."

"TJ maybe you would have beat that throw out to first base if you would have drank 8 beers last night INSTEAD OF 18!"

" ******* had to sit in the bullpen with a dip in just to take the edge off."

"Stanke you might think Goeltz getting caught drinking in study hall is funny, but i dont think it is - that just shows your immaturity."

""Why don't you go bury yourself in the dugout so NO ONE knows you play for me!"

"Go watch yourself swing in the mirror and come back and tell me if you don't puke all over yourself...then again, why don't you just go to bed with your stats..maybe that will change your swing."

"Schmidt... in all my years of coaching, ive never seen someone swing and hit the plate. Thats the most embarrassing thing ive ever seen. Your horrible. "

What did you want him to do? Jump out of the way?!? He's got a bat in his hand, NOT A POGO STICK!!..............chicken sh*t!

Come here buddy and let me tell you something, you dont have to worry about that next year.....BEACAUSE I I GOT SOMEONE COMING!!!






I am your king and this is my kingdom...

That's hilarious.

Agreed!  Reading that will no doubt be my most entertaining part of the week.  It's all down hill from here.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 19, 2010, 04:20:15 PM
Quote from: Titan20 on April 19, 2010, 02:29:51 PM
In case you were wondering the facebook page...here it is...someone of these are classic if you know tom...i was laughing just reading these again...but some...i mean come on...a little of the top...

Baseball Quotes Updated: 07/21/08
Share
Monday, September 25, 2006 at 1:40am
Perlewitz, I bet if there was a hamburger in the dugout you would get over here a little quicker!!"

Spruney, ursophuked up you cant even take a full swing - do i teach check sssSSsswing in our program???!!!?? NO!!! I dont!!!!!!!! so next time you check swing - guess what...? YOUR DONE - for all of 2007!!

Fosler we all know you were up late last night emailing your old highschool teamate talking about our game tomorrow. Your urosphuked up you cant even swing against him. Everyone in the park knows your sSSsscard. FIGURE IT OUT!!! Awww, got hit in the nose, aww hit my nose - J*** F****** CHR****

Stanke your a psycho - and guess what? psychos dont get to play in our program.. do they??!!!!!!! DO THEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mick JE*** CH**** arre you that F**** up???!!! Everyone in the park knows your scared, even the umpires.....Your a MENTAL MIDGET - now he might be a mental midget but at least hes got drive ...and presence.

Mumpfer I had better have thosse charts beating me up to my F***** room!

Greg THATSSsss your F***** contribution today!!?/ 1/3 innings pitched 4 RUNSSssssS - FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFffffF F FF U aacacKKKKKK!

We didn't build this F***** program on SssplitsSSss DID WE!!!!!! DID WE!!!! You GuySSss make me SSSSSsssSick!

The yellow jackets of LAKE SSsssSsuperior REALLY SssssssssSSSsStung you didnt they brad!?!!!!!!!!

Stanke when i put you and Jordan in that means were cashing it in. You guys got it! When i put them in Im cashing it in , you guys dont cash it in, I do.

Peter your so F***** up you probably thought that pop up to the centerfielder was a hit...RIGHT!?

Bretl do you want me to get the F****** bullpen up the first innning? Cause I will - its F****** stout, give us a chance!

Hastings are you that F****ed up ? ARE YOU!!!?? Maybe we have to bring Brandon Burgert back from Marian.

Schwebke its a FLAIR, havent you learned anything in 4 years- F***** eh your 24 years old.

Stendahl don't look at me with that same face - you make me SsssSick!

Well looks like you guys were anxious to start your summer careers.

Roos you know how fast you were throwing? - 84! The scouts are wondering what I did to make you worse, they wonder what I did for stanke. You know how to throw faster? Get some arm speed- so that is your one thought in practice this week.

Guys its SSsssZimmerman for F**** sake - are you guys all that F***** up!!??

1984 conference champs, regional champs, world SSsseries
1886 conference champs regional champs, world series 2nd place
1988 Conferencve champs , regional champs, world series 4th
etc etc etc

I am your king and this is my kingdom.

"Stanke do you know how f****** pathetic you are...you're f******* gutless!"

"Is that the best you got stanke...a curveball 5 feet over his F****** head!

"Brad bring your right fielder back INTO OSHKOSH!"

"Shut your f****** mouth and listen for once, maybe you might actually learn something."

"Is that the best you got stanke...christ your pathetic."

"TJ this isnt the Shawno Sunday Social League!"

"Who the F*** do you think you are. Get the F*** out of my practice. That means for good!"

"Stop running around second base . Your not a F****** gerbel!"

"Tom stay on the mound. You'll walk 5 miles back and forth in 5 innings"

"Hendricks be decisive. I dont want this in between bullsh*t!"

"Hendricks what have you accomplised today besides coffeehousing with stanke? He can afford to do that, his pockets are a little deeper than yours now with your incident the other night."

"Christ you guys. He runs a 7.7 60 and you can't even throw him out."

"hey why dont u work on either ur left handed swing...or get in the weight room...cuz u dont have any power until you hit one out of this park."

"Hey Gow you ever think about killing yourself? - cause now would be a good time!...............somebody watch him."

"The nightmares over Sheres out of the game, you can all relax now"

"It didn't say PR on the workout sheet"
"Dont talk back! Shut your mouth and get your a** moving"

"Chapstick in your back pocket must be a new thing - eh Stendal?"

"You may think that injuries happen to unlucky people, guess what they don't - its just attrition - look at Ahman Green of the Packers, he blows out his hamstring and pee pee area once a year and what do they do? - they fire the strength and conditioning coach and hire a new one EVERY year!"

"Foley I bet you can bench women off of you heavier than that."

"TJ maybe you would have beat that throw out to first base if you would have drank 8 beers last night INSTEAD OF 18!"

" ******* had to sit in the bullpen with a dip in just to take the edge off."

"Stanke you might think Goeltz getting caught drinking in study hall is funny, but i dont think it is - that just shows your immaturity."

""Why don't you go bury yourself in the dugout so NO ONE knows you play for me!"

"Go watch yourself swing in the mirror and come back and tell me if you don't puke all over yourself...then again, why don't you just go to bed with your stats..maybe that will change your swing."

"Schmidt... in all my years of coaching, ive never seen someone swing and hit the plate. Thats the most embarrassing thing ive ever seen. Your horrible. "

What did you want him to do? Jump out of the way?!? He's got a bat in his hand, NOT A POGO STICK!!..............chicken sh*t!

Come here buddy and let me tell you something, you dont have to worry about that next year.....BEACAUSE I I GOT SOMEONE COMING!!!






I am your king and this is my kingdom...

Holey Moley, he's got a real way with words.  Way to frickin' funny
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 19, 2010, 04:50:19 PM
yeah, now try to concentrate on a ball coming at you when that is going on the background!  I seriously had a hard time concentrating at times when he was going off, because the stuff that was coming out of that dugout was just unbelievable.  Hearing it live is even better than reading it, but that's some funny stuff either way!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on April 19, 2010, 05:53:24 PM
Where are the Wiczek lines?  Rumor always was he had to make sure Wiczek was staying overnight at another teammates place the night before a game so wasn't too hungover to play.  He had to have some comment for his uncontrollable drinking.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 20, 2010, 08:19:46 AM
Though those lines are pretty good, nothing matched those lobbed from the Carthage dugout and Augie Schmidt.

He once told a parent, "I don't know whether to punch your kid for making that mental mistake or you for having him."

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on April 20, 2010, 06:42:59 PM
Ok, this may open up a whole new can of worms...but I thought I would bring this topic up...What's going on with the conference tournament???  It's now down to 3 teams.  Does this make any sense? I understand that they want to make it so it's completed in two days, but this is ridiculous.  What's next?  Are they just going to stop having the tournament?  I'm losing a lot of respect for the WIAC and the way they're starting to run things.  There was nothing wrong with the 4 team double elimination tournament, then they had to go and screw that up last year with the bottom 2 seeds being one loss and done and having the top 2 seeds play each other right away in the first round.  When in the history of post season play has the top 2 seeds played each other in the first round?!  That's terrible, what's the point of getting the higher seeds?  And now the team that wins the first game between the 2 and 3 seeds at 10am, if they lose to the 1 seed at 1pm they'd have to play their 3rd game of the day against the loser of game 1 Friday at 4pm.  So the team that WINS a game will have the disadvantage of playing 3 games back to back to back the first day if they lose to the 1 seed, while the team that lost the first game will be well rested and sitting in the same boat as the team that beat them game 1.  Is that fair? 

And as a fan, I'm not interested in driving to watch a tournament with only 3 teams in it.  If anything they should have added more teams to the tournament.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on April 20, 2010, 08:23:01 PM
I have to agree with you.  I spoke to Point AD Frank O'Brien and was told it's mainly because of lights.  I know Whitewater will have lights now but Point and Oshkosh's home fields have no lights.  I'm doubting Point would have any trouble using Witter as a host field though and Oshkosh using Schneider if they were to host.  I have made every conference tourney the past 10 years but will not be going this year.  It's a bunch of BS the way it's run now.  It should go back to top 4 teams double elimination.  On a side note, Is Koback really done for the year with the fracture in his arm or is he eyeing a return for the postseason?  I was told by a parent he injured the arm in Florida and it was a 6-8 week injury meaning he would be back soon after some rehab.  I can understand if he doesn't want to waste a whole year but let's face it this is Point's best chance to go far this year so I wouldn't save a year if I was able to pitch even a few games yet this year.  What a boost it would be to get him back for the WIAC tournament and possibly regionals.  I actually would like Point's chances against Whitewater or St. Thomas in regionals if they have a healthy Koback.  I see Schuld got roughed up and finally lost. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 20, 2010, 11:21:06 PM
The conference tournament structure is a joke, and especially so considering that the end result is the WIAC's automatic bid to the NCAA tourny.  I can see why the more successful schools would be in favor of that layout, because basically if you're the 1 or 2 seed and you win the first game you're the champ!  I see it as an indirect way for the conference to ensure that their 1 or 2 seed from the regular season gets the bid, which if that's the case why not just use regular season as the criteria for the automatic berth?  Honestly I would like to see all teams included in the conference tournament, isn't that what's implied in the name?  "Conference" tournament...I don't know, I just don't like this new setup at all.  Including every team would take more time, but I think it's the best thing for the conference and for the fans!  Currently, the weak teams have nothing to play for all season, they know they aren't making the tournament so what's the point, and with this setup they could at lease have a shot at spoiling somebody's season come tournament time, and get to experience that atmosphere...maybe it's just me, but I would love to see all teams participate.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 21, 2010, 01:23:09 AM
Quote from: pickleshiner on April 20, 2010, 08:23:01 PM
I have to agree with you.  I spoke to Point AD Frank O'Brien and was told it's mainly because of lights.  I know Whitewater will have lights now but Point and Oshkosh's home fields have no lights.  I'm doubting Point would have any trouble using Witter as a host field though and Oshkosh using Schneider if they were to host.  I have made every conference tourney the past 10 years but will not be going this year.  It's a bunch of BS the way it's run now.  It should go back to top 4 teams double elimination.  On a side note, Is Koback really done for the year with the fracture in his arm or is he eyeing a return for the postseason?  I was told by a parent he injured the arm in Florida and it was a 6-8 week injury meaning he would be back soon after some rehab.  I can understand if he doesn't want to waste a whole year but let's face it this is Point's best chance to go far this year so I wouldn't save a year if I was able to pitch even a few games yet this year.  What a boost it would be to get him back for the WIAC tournament and possibly regionals.  I actually would like Point's chances against Whitewater or St. Thomas in regionals if they have a healthy Koback.  I see Schuld got roughed up and finally lost. 
Koback had the injury in Feb.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on April 21, 2010, 07:44:44 AM
He went 5 strong against Bowdoin down in Florida.  Your son's the pitching coach so you should have some insight on whether Koback's done or not.  Is he going to pitch again this year or not?  It would really help come regionals/WIAC tourney because Point could put Lorenz back to his closer spot.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on April 21, 2010, 09:32:06 AM
it would be nice for this year if he came back, but big picture it's just not in his best interests as a player...he sits out now he can medical redshirt this year and still have three left!  no sense in coming back for three games.  would it be nice? yes.  is it worth it for him? probably not.  I could be wrong, but I can't think of too many players that would lose a whole year of eligibility just to throw in the conference tournament.  How did this injury come about in the first place?  was it a result of baseball, or something else?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on April 21, 2010, 10:17:29 AM
1999 UW-Stevens Point pitcher Jesse Ray, gave up his redshirt for an inning in the Regional. Didn't go well!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 21, 2010, 11:42:06 AM
1995-UWO Infielder Dan Johnston gave up his redshirt at Regionals after starter Aaron Luepke catches a ball in the face causing a black eye during infield warm-ups.  

I don't remember his stats, but Oshkosh went on to win the Regional and take 3rd at the World Series.  Johnston may have only played in one or two games that season, because I believe Luepke was back for the World Series.

BigPoppa-Do you remember this?  I thought UWO beat Carthage in the opening round of the World Series that season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 21, 2010, 11:48:07 AM
Quote from: pickleshiner on April 20, 2010, 08:23:01 PM
On a side note, Is Koback really done for the year with the fracture in his arm or is he eyeing a return for the postseason?  I was told by a parent he injured the arm in Florida and it was a 6-8 week injury meaning he would be back soon after some rehab.  I can understand if he doesn't want to waste a whole year but let's face it this is Point's best chance to go far this year so I wouldn't save a year if I was able to pitch even a few games yet this year.  What a boost it would be to get him back for the WIAC tournament and possibly regionals.  I actually would like Point's chances against Whitewater or St. Thomas in regionals if they have a healthy Koback. 
If Koback is throwing as well next year as he was before the injury (91-93 this winter) next season may be his last with the Pointer's regardless.  He would have his three years in and be eligible for the MLB Amateur Draft.  I wouldn't be surprised to see him get drafted.  It would just be a matter of if he wanted to sign or not, and with an arm injury now in his past, he might not want to risk the chance of being injured the following year and losing out on the chance of an professional contract.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on April 21, 2010, 12:30:22 PM
I agree with you Cubs.  If Koback is able to pitch at 100% without risking further damage he should be throwing.  He is a unique talent and has the potential to put Point over the top.  With Williams and Koback as your 1 and 2 and Delorit and Lorenz following Point would have the depth to come back through regionals if they were to lose to St. Thomas first round for example with Schuld on the hill.  Point's weakness is their bullpen which would get a huge boost if Lorenz could throw middle relief or close games out.  Point will be very good again next year but they are losing great players in Richter, Spurney, Arch, and Lorenz.  If Point is going to get hot and win a world series this is the year not next.  Not saying Point can't next year but their odds are far better this year.  Top to bottom they are stacked as ever and are just a pitcher short right now. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 21, 2010, 04:42:52 PM
Stevens Point 2
Edgewood 1

Whitewater 2
Oshkosh 1

Stout 10
Superior 5

La Crosse 15
Platteville 7

All Game 1 Finals
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 21, 2010, 07:57:26 PM
Stevens Point 5
Edgewood 4

Whitewater 8
Oshkosh 5

Superior 14
Stout 13

La Crosse 3
Platteville 2
(The Eagles score three runs in the 9th inning to win it.)

All Game 2 Finals

One thing worth noting, was that Whitewater was able to sweep UWO despite not having even one extra-base hit on the day.  They had four singles in Game #1 and twelve singles in Game #2.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on April 21, 2010, 08:30:49 PM
Point started their #5 pitcher in game 1 and #6 in game 2 and still managed to win both against Edgewood's #2 and #3.  Too bad Oshkosh couldn't take one today but they still have 2 at Whitewater next week so hopefully they'll get at least 1.  Point's bats need to come alive quick if they want to do better than a split this weekend.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 21, 2010, 08:35:02 PM
The WARHAWKS won both ends of the double hitter with Oshkosh 2-1, 8-5.  As the score would suggest game one was a pitcher's duel.  Jeff Donovan (2-0) started for the WARHAWKS and got the win going seven innings giving up the only Oshkosh run on three hits with four strikeouts.  Riley Tincher relieved Donovan pitching a scoreless eighth inning and Ben Versnik picked up his fourth save of the season by pitching a scoreless ninth. WHITEWATER scored a single run in the first when Donovan singled, advanced to second on a pick off attempt that hit the first baseman in the head and then advanced to third and scored on a pair of wild pitches.  The WARHAWKS scored their second run in the second inning on a Dan Putnam RBI single.  Oshkosh's only run came in the seventh on a pair of doubles.   Ryan Leavitt, Donovan, Putnam and Rick Rechlitz had the WARHAWKS four hits.

The second game started much like the first with both teams having trouble scoring any runs.  Oshkosh scored the first run in the third on a pair of singles.  But the WARHAWKS answered with three runs in the sixth on three hits and a Titan error.  Oshkosh tied the game with a pair of runs in the seventh highlighted by a home run from Mrvicka.  WHITEWATER answered back with five runs in their at bat in the seventh on four hits and a couple of errors by the Titans.  Oshkosh threatened in the eighth scoring a pair of runs and leaving the bases loaded.  Aaron Lietner started for the WARHAWKS giving up one run on four hits, a walk and a strikeout.  Kyle Lee relieved him but pitched to just a single hitter before being replaced by Riley Tincher (8-0) who pitched a single inning and was credited with the win.  Jason Hooper relieved Tincher and Ben Versnik retired the final four hitters in order in relief of Hooper.  Putnam (2x2, 2 RS, 1 RBI), Rob Coe (2x3, 1 RBI), Jordan Stine (2x3, 1 RS, 2 RBI) and Mike Kenseth (2x3, 1 RBI) all had multiple hits and Ben Kuhlman also had 2 RBI.  
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 22, 2010, 01:03:35 AM
Quote from: pickleshiner on April 21, 2010, 07:44:44 AM
He went 5 strong against Bowdoin down in Florida.  Your son's the pitching coach so you should have some insight on whether Koback's done or not.  Is he going to pitch again this year or not?  It would really help come regionals/WIAC tourney because Point could put Lorenz back to his closer spot.
My son doesn't say anything about the team, so I don't know. I know that Koback is playing for the Rapids team in the Northwoods League along with Jirschele.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 23, 2010, 01:01:44 PM
Well this weekend should go a LONG way in determing things in the WIAC.

Point at Whitewater
-Point pretty much needs to take three out of four if they want any chance to host the WIAC Tournament.  A split still leaves them two games back in the loss colummn, with Whitewater only having six games to play.

La Crosse at Superior
Stout at Platteville
-These four game sets should separate the "pretenders" from the "contenders" unless of course they split both series, which could happen rather easily.  If someone does happen to get three out of four, they would position themselves nicely for 3rd place and a spot in the WIAC Tournament.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 24, 2010, 04:17:26 PM
Are any WIAC games getting in today, or is everything rained out?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: UWP SID on April 24, 2010, 04:35:25 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on April 24, 2010, 04:17:26 PM
Are any WIAC games getting in today, or is everything rained out?

Platteville and Stout are in the 11th inning of the opener.
Live stats at: http://www.uwplatt.edu/athletics/baseball/livestats/xlive.htm
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 24, 2010, 04:58:59 PM
Whitewater wins game 1 7-5. Point up 3-0 in game 2 Hooper vs Delorit.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 24, 2010, 05:05:16 PM
Top of 3rd Point up 4-0.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 24, 2010, 05:19:00 PM
Hooper doesn't get out of the 4th, Point still batting up 5-0.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 24, 2010, 05:25:10 PM
Point up 8-0, still the 4th inning.  Could have used some of this to take the first game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 24, 2010, 06:38:17 PM
Point wins Game 2, 12-1 in eight innings.

Platteville won the first from Stout 11-10 in 11 innings. In the second game, Stout leads 8-5 in the fifth.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: UWP SID on April 24, 2010, 07:35:53 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on April 24, 2010, 06:38:17 PM
Point wins Game 2, 12-1 in eight innings.

Platteville won the first from Stout 11-10 in 11 innings. In the second game, Stout leads 8-5 in the fifth.

At the end of 5, it's UWP 20-8.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on April 24, 2010, 08:26:30 PM
Jason Hooper hasn't looked so good since the no hitter. Kyle Lee has been shaky his last two appearances. Hawks really need those two to get back on track.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 24, 2010, 09:55:00 PM
Quote from: UWP SID on April 24, 2010, 07:35:53 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on April 24, 2010, 06:38:17 PM
Point wins Game 2, 12-1 in eight innings.

Platteville won the first from Stout 11-10 in 11 innings. In the second game, Stout leads 8-5 in the fifth.

At the end of 5, it's UWP 20-8.

A 15 run 5th inning... 8-) ...that's almost hard to believe...  :o !!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 25, 2010, 11:35:33 AM
Quote from: Barber Greene on April 24, 2010, 08:26:30 PM
Jason Hooper hasn't looked so good since the no hitter.
Well when you start three games in five days like Hooper did (April 10, 11, and 14) eventually it's going to catch up with you....

BTW-Today's doubleheader between Stevens Point and Whitewater has been postponed until Monday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 25, 2010, 07:53:20 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 23, 2010, 01:01:44 PM
Well this weekend should go a LONG way in determining things in the WIAC.

Point at Whitewater
-Point pretty much needs to take three out of four if they want any chance to host the WIAC Tournament.  A split still leaves them two games back in the loss colummn, with Whitewater only having six games to play.

La Crosse at Superior
Stout at Platteville
-These four game sets should separate the "pretenders" from the "contenders" unless of course they split both series, which could happen rather easily.  If someone does happen to get three out of four, they would position themselves nicely for 3rd place and a spot in the WIAC Tournament.
Looks as though Platteville got one closer to that #3 seed with a 4-game sweep of Stout this weekend.  They were able to pull out two games by identical 11-10 scores, which could go a LONG way in the standings.  By comparison, La Crosse and Superior split, with La Crosse winning both games on Saturday, and Superior winning both on Sunday.

Point pretty much needs to sweep on Monday to have any chance at hosting the WIAC Tournament, since they split with Whitewater on Saturday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 26, 2010, 02:42:33 PM
There will be live stats for the WARHAWK - Point games today.  You can access them by going to the athletic department home page and clicking on the live stats in the calendar on the right side of the page.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on April 26, 2010, 04:25:48 PM
Looks like errors hurt the pointers in game one a couple of times.  That and lack of hitting...whoa...lets get those sticks going boys!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on April 26, 2010, 04:51:22 PM
Point needs this next game badly but I don't know if they'll get it with Van Beck on the hill.  Should be lots of runs in game 2.  Anyone else think Point will need to win at least 7 of their last 8 WIAC games vs La Crosse and Stout to get an at large?  I think Whitewater will actually take the conference tourney this year.  Point can't hit left handers.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on April 26, 2010, 07:35:33 PM
Point is winning big in the 9th in game 2.  I think they just batted around 7 times in 1 inning.  Why the hell would Tincher come in the game after he just pitched Sat and they have 2 big games Wed against Oshkosh?  Not like Whitewater really needed this game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 26, 2010, 09:39:28 PM
Tincher pitched to two batters.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on April 26, 2010, 09:45:20 PM
I know that but it still doesn't make sense especially after Point lost the 1rst game today and Whitewater has essentially won the WIAC barring a total disaster.  You have to figure in throws in the bullpen to warm up and the batters he faced.  I do like that Whitewater plays to win every game though and will start a guy and bring him back for a few innings the next day but I think it's affected Hooper and could affect Tincher if they keep using him that way.  Point needs to go 8-0 the next 8 games which wouldn't be shocking seeing it's LaCrosse and Stout but that still may not be good enough.  Hopefully Kannenberg can throw a great game and Oshkosh can at least make it interesting going into this weekend.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 27, 2010, 10:01:32 AM
When Tincher entered we were down 8-6 and had an out.  We were trying to keep the score close enough to give ourselves a chance in our final at bat.  Actually if it had been successful and we had still scored the three runs in the ninth we could have won. We may not have really needed the win but I think most fans would agree a four game lead with six remaining is more comfortable than a two game lead.

Hooper's problem isn't fatigue. 

For what it's worth Point scored 9 runs in the ninth, there were three outs and two runners left on base.  So they sent 14 hitters to the plate.  That was bad enough.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on April 27, 2010, 06:22:28 PM
Coach V was debating a call at the plate in the Point series on Saturday. He says to the ump, "You can't handle the truth!". I thought that was pretty good. Laughs all around in the crowd.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on April 28, 2010, 08:11:16 AM
Can't Oshkosh borrow guys that either quit, transferred, or didn't join the team this year for the DH at Whitewater?  Here's what their lineup could be.
1.  Nolan Fadness CF
2.  Justin Jirschele SS
3.  Blake Berger 1B
4.  Kyle Kannenberg 3B
5.  Andrew Eichstadt 2B
6.  Ben Sebesta LF
7.  Travis Helland RF
8.  Derek Hirosky C
9.  Lucas Wirth DH
Pitcher Ryan Demmin Or Jeremy Ruebens.  What could have been a championship team
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 28, 2010, 10:00:34 AM
Quote from: pickleshiner on April 28, 2010, 08:11:16 AM
Can't Oshkosh borrow guys that either quit, transferred, or didn't join the team this year for the DH at Whitewater?  Here's what their lineup could be.
1.  Nolan Fadness CF
2.  Justin Jirschele SS
3.  Blake Berger 1B
4.  Kyle Kannenberg 3B
5.  Andrew Eichstadt 2B
6.  Ben Sebesta LF
7.  Travis Helland RF
8.  Derek Hirosky C
9.  Lucas Wirth DH
Pitcher Ryan Demmin Or Jeremy Ruebens.  What could have been a championship team
Helland didn't quit, transfer or fail to join the team.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 28, 2010, 11:22:55 AM
Quote from: OshDude on April 28, 2010, 10:00:34 AM
Quote from: pickleshiner on April 28, 2010, 08:11:16 AM
Can't Oshkosh borrow guys that either quit, transferred, or didn't join the team this year for the DH at Whitewater?  Here's what their lineup could be.
1.  Nolan Fadness CF
2.  Justin Jirschele SS
3.  Blake Berger 1B
4.  Kyle Kannenberg 3B
5.  Andrew Eichstadt 2B
6.  Ben Sebesta LF
7.  Travis Helland RF
8.  Derek Hirosky C
9.  Lucas Wirth DH
Pitcher Ryan Demmin Or Jeremy Ruebens.  What could have been a championship team
Helland didn't quit, transfer or fail to join the team.
Either did Rubens...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on April 28, 2010, 12:21:22 PM
I realize they didn't quit or leave I meant they would be in the lineup if healthy.  Some of the guys on there did leave and I was just projecting their lineup without all the drama.  I personally believe they would've won the WIAC this year if Ruebens were healthy, Demmin and Jirsch would've stayed.  Kannenberg would've been their #3 starter.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 28, 2010, 05:19:43 PM
Think you can stick a fork in Oshkosh---They are done. Lose 22-6 in game 1 against Whitewater. Kannenberg goes 1 inning giving up 7 runs all earned.  Would be a little concerned with Whitewater pitching though. Oshkosh managed 6 runs off of Whitewater. Not saying Whitewater should have no hit them but I think a shutout wouldn't have been imposible.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: neverabenchwarmer on April 28, 2010, 06:14:46 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 28, 2010, 10:00:34 AM
Quote from: pickleshiner on April 28, 2010, 08:11:16 AM
Can't Oshkosh borrow guys that either quit, transferred, or didn't join the team this year for the DH at Whitewater?  Here's what their lineup could be.
1.  Nolan Fadness CF
2.  Justin Jirschele SS
3.  Blake Berger 1B
4.  Kyle Kannenberg 3B
5.  Andrew Eichstadt 2B
6.  Ben Sebesta LF
7.  Travis Helland RF
8.  Derek Hirosky C
9.  Lucas Wirth DH
Pitcher Ryan Demmin Or Jeremy Ruebens.  What could have been a championship team
Helland didn't quit, transfer or fail to join the team.
Quote from: cubs on April 28, 2010, 11:22:55 AM
Quote from: OshDude on April 28, 2010, 10:00:34 AM
Quote from: pickleshiner on April 28, 2010, 08:11:16 AM
Can't Oshkosh borrow guys that either quit, transferred, or didn't join the team this year for the DH at Whitewater?  Here's what their lineup could be.
1.  Nolan Fadness CF
2.  Justin Jirschele SS
3.  Blake Berger 1B
4.  Kyle Kannenberg 3B
5.  Andrew Eichstadt 2B
6.  Ben Sebesta LF
7.  Travis Helland RF
8.  Derek Hirosky C
9.  Lucas Wirth DH
Pitcher Ryan Demmin Or Jeremy Ruebens.  What could have been a championship team
Helland didn't quit, transfer or fail to join the team.
Either did Rubens...

So that is 2 out of how many that either quit or transferred????  I believe the count is up to 7 as of last week.  I think Lechnir's antics have finally caught up with him.  I can't believe he has gotten away with it for so long. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 28, 2010, 08:05:32 PM
Quote from: szlongball on April 28, 2010, 05:19:43 PM
Think you can stick a fork in Oshkosh---They are done. Lose 22-6 in game 1 against Whitewater. Kannenberg goes 1 inning giving up 7 runs all earned.  Would be a little concerned with Whitewater pitching though. Oshkosh managed 6 runs off of Whitewater. Not saying Whitewater should have no hit them but I think a shutout wouldn't have been imposible.

Funny stuff...make it 12 in the DH!!  ;)

Warhawks sweep, winning game 2, 13-6.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 28, 2010, 09:20:33 PM
Riley Tincher (10-0) got the start and the win in the first game going five innings giving up nine hits and four runs.  Tom Kerndt relieved him and finished the final two innings.  Jason Hooper (4-2) started the second game and got the win with 6.2 innings, six hits, four runs and seven strikeouts.  Andrew Bauer, Ben Versnik and Brock Liston pitched in relief.  On the day Jordan Stine went 6x11, 4 RS, 4 RBI with a double and home run.  Dan Putnam was 4x7, 4 RS, 4 RBI with a double and home run.  Jeff Donovan was 3x4, 3 RS, 2 RBI with a double and home run. Rob Coe had 3x7, 4 RS, 3 RBI with a double.  Ryan Leavitt went 5x7, 2 RS, 6 RBI with a pair of doubles. Matt Beyer was 5x9, 3 RS, 8 RBI with a triple and home run.  Ben Kuhlmann went 3x5, 3 RS and 2 RBI and Nick Rechlitz 2x2, 4 RS, 1 RBI with a double.  Totally the WARHAWKS pounded out 37 hits in the double hitter.  

Oshkosh scored 21 runs against Point and got a win.  They scored 18 run against the WARHAWKS and lost all four.   Neither pitching staff shut them out.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 28, 2010, 09:26:35 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 28, 2010, 09:20:33 PM
Oshkosh scored 21 runs against Point and got a win.  They scored 18 run against the WARHAWKS and lost all four.   Neither pitching staff shut them out.

Thanks bw for putting things into proper perspective. +k
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 28, 2010, 10:44:09 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 28, 2010, 09:20:33 PM
Riley Tincher (10-0) got the start and the win in the first game going five innings giving up nine hits and four runs.  Tom Kerndt relieved him and finished the final two innings.  Jason Hooper (4-2) started the second game and got the win with 6.2 innings, six hits, four runs and seven strikeouts.  Andrew Bauer, Ben Versnik and Brock Liston pitched in relief.  On the day Jordan Stine went 6x11, 4 RS, 4 RBI with a double and home run.  Dan Putnam was 4x7, 4 RS, 4 RBI with a double and home run.  Jeff Donovan was 3x4, 3 RS, 2 RBI with a double and home run. Rob Coe had 3x7, 4 RS, 3 RBI with a double.  Ryan Leavitt went 5x7, 2 RS, 6 RBI with a pair of doubles. Matt Beyer was 5x9, 3 RS, 8 RBI with a triple and home run.  Ben Kuhlmann went 3x5, 3 RS and 2 RBI and Nick Rechlitz 2x2, 4 RS, 1 RBI with a double.  Totally the WARHAWKS pounded out 37 hits in the double hitter.  

Oshkosh scored 21 runs against Point and got a win.  They scored 18 run against the WARHAWKS and lost all four.   Neither pitching staff shut them out.

Whitewater is supposed to have a better pitching staff and a more consistant offense. You do have a no-hitter thrown this year, and ranked #1 or#2 depending on which poll you look at. Was not riping on Whitewater in any way. Point is not as strong in the pitching department as they have been in the past. Plus with the amount of players Oshkosh keeps losing didn't think they would score as many runs as they did. Your offensive output is what I expected in this game. So enjoy your wins and give it a rest about Point not shutting out Oshkosh.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2010, 09:16:54 AM
Quote from: szlongball on April 28, 2010, 10:44:09 PM
So enjoy your wins and give it a rest about Point not shutting out Oshkosh.
You were the one that mentioned "I think a shutout wouldn't have been imposible" so he was just replying to you....  You brought the topic up.....
Title: Oshkosh
Post by: BigPoppa on April 29, 2010, 10:51:00 AM
How far has Oshkosh fallen in the last few seasons? I knew they were struggling a little this year, but they are going to miss the WIAC post-season for the first time in who knows how long(The WIAC page goes back to "72 and Oshkosh appears to have been in every post-season). At 5-11, in sixth place, they are a shell of what they used to be. I know it is easy to blame Coach Lechnir for the team's issues, but the guy can flat out coach and his WIAC and national titles are a proof of that. Is there another reason for Oshkosh's fall in recent years? Is it due to the emergence of Whitewater and Stevens Point as national programs? Is it recruiting?
2010 Standings (Through 4/28)  

                           WIAC/Overall
Whitewater         17-3 29-4
Stevens Point      11-5 22-9
Superior               8-8 16-14
Platteville             9-11 19-14
La Crosse            6-10 14-17
Oshkosh              5-11 12-18
Stout                   4-12 9-20
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on April 29, 2010, 10:51:59 AM
Whose going to take the 3rd spot for the tourney?  Who poses the biggest threat to Point in that 1rst game?  I'm pulling for Superior because I think Point can pound whoever their top pitcher is.  Platteville and LaCrosse really don't have an ace either but have pitchers capable of keeping Point around 5-6 runs.  I think if Point wants a chance to win the WIAC tourney they'll have to start Lorenze game 1 so they have Delorit and Williams for their matchup with Whitewater.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIACLUV on April 29, 2010, 11:18:54 AM
Why not make the "conference tournament" more of a joke and just make the mid-season change to a best of 3 vs Point and Whitewater. Pretty soon it's going to be decided in the preseason poll. In most years the 3 team system works, this year it would actually take away from what would be a great 2 team matchup with fully loaded staff's. The WIAC has to figure it out and get back to a 4 team tournament maybe at a neutral site like Eau Claire. The 3rd and 4th teams usually have at least one pitcher on staff that can make for a great game.
Title: Re: Oshkosh
Post by: OshDude on April 29, 2010, 11:25:08 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 29, 2010, 10:51:00 AM
How far has Oshkosh fallen in the last few seasons? I knew they were struggling a little this year, but they are going to miss the WIAC post-season for the first time in who knows how long(The WIAC page goes back to "72 and Oshkosh appears to have been in every post-season). At 5-11, in sixth place, they are a shell of what they used to be. I know it is easy to blame Coach Lechnir for the team's issues, but the guy can flat out coach and his WIAC and national titles are a proof of that. Is there another reason for Oshkosh's fall in recent years? Is it due to the emergence of Whitewater and Stevens Point as national programs? Is it recruiting?
2010 Standings (Through 4/28)  

                           WIAC/Overall
Whitewater         17-3 29-4
Stevens Point      11-5 22-9
Superior               8-8 16-14
Platteville             9-11 19-14
La Crosse            6-10 14-17
Oshkosh              5-11 12-18
Stout                   4-12 9-20

Call me crazy, but I think UWO makes the WIAC tourney again this year. The Titans have eight games left against Stout and La Crosse.

It doesn't help when you lose your All-America pitcher to Tommy John, your #2 starter transfers into a D2 scholarship, your C hurts his shoulder and moves to 1B, your cleanup-hitting 3B quits, your SS transfers to a WIAC rival (although UWO's SS is doing OK) and your RF breaks his arm in Game 2.

It's hard enough to beat Whitewater and Stevens Point with your best. Good luck doing so with Plan B (or worse).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2010, 11:36:13 AM
Quote from: pickleshiner on April 29, 2010, 10:51:59 AM
I'm pulling for Superior because I think Point can pound whoever their top pitcher is.
Hmm...  You forget about T.J. Wink?  He is only 6-0 with a 2.82 ERA, which is second  among WIAC Pitchers.

Oh yeah, that also includes a 10-5 victory over Point less than two weeks ago.... ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 29, 2010, 11:38:40 AM
Superior's #1 pitcher is TJ Wink.  He's currently second in the league with a 2.82 era and a W-L record of 6-0.  He was the winning pitcher in their 10-5 win over Delorit allowing 4 earned runs in six innings.  Nice catch, cubs.

Superior and Platteville would seem to have the best shot at finishing third and it looks like it will probably come down to the final weekend when Platteville travels to Superior for a pair of twin bills.  Superior is 8-8 and has four games with WHITEWATER in addition to the series with Platteville.  Platteville is 9-11 and has just the four games with Superior remaining.  LaCrosse looks to be out of the running having four games series with Oshkosh and Point to play.  Oshkosh 5-11 has an outside chance if they can pull it together.  They have four with Stout and four with LaCrosse remaining.   I think they would need to win all eight and hope some other series worked out in their favor.  It should be an interesting final week.  

The difference in ERA between the WARHAWK pitching staff and Point's is .25 earned runs per game, 4.86 to 5.11.  

I forgot to mention that the WARHAWKS pulled off a triple play yesterday.  With the baseloaded the Oshkosh hitter hit a soft liner which Tincher caught at field level.  Because of the confusion over whether it was caught on the fly or not the Oshkosh runners took off.  Tincher threw the ball to third and Rechlitz doubled up the runner and then tagged out the runner from second who was standing on third base. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2010, 11:43:36 AM
I'm going to say that if a team is able to go 12-12, they will get the #3 seed.  If they go 11-13, then it will likely come down to a tie-breaker.

If Superior is able to "steal" a game from Whitewater this weekend, I like their chances, other wise they'll be sitting at 8-12, and need to take three out of four from Platteville next weekend to get in.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: eccfbaseballer on April 30, 2010, 01:58:17 PM
Can anyone explain to me why the wiac womens softball tournament has six qualifiers and the mens baseball tournament has only three?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on April 30, 2010, 02:08:02 PM
It has to do with time of the games and lights.  Softball games are far quicker.  I disagree with how they've done it with baseball now it should've stayed 4 teams double elimination and they should've kept it at Witter.  It was the perfect setup especially for Point.  I think they should consider 7 inning games for the baseball WIAC tourney and make it either 4 or 5 teams.  Some of these doubleheaders are starting at Noon and ending at 7:00 P.M.  That's ridiculous when you figure the long bus ride to the field and than driving back home afterwards after eating supper somewhere.  We're talking after midnight when guys return home.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 30, 2010, 03:06:55 PM
Quote from: pickleshiner on April 30, 2010, 02:08:02 PM
I think they should consider 7 inning games for the baseball WIAC tourney and make it either 4 or 5 teams.

The NCAA does not permit 7-inning games unless they are part of a doubleheader or a result of a mercy rule.  Tournament games are not doubleheaders so if you only played 7 innings they would not be official games by NCAA rules.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on April 30, 2010, 03:20:44 PM
The rules should change. WIAC games get boring after 5 innings.  No pitching and guys hitting pop ups out of the park.  I wouldn't be opposed to wood bats so we can see who really can hit.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 30, 2010, 04:51:45 PM
In order to play with more teams you either need lights or an extra day.  The conference coaches did not want to continue playing at a neutral site with lights and WHITEWATER has the only conference facility with lights.  The athletic directors didn't want to extend the tournament into a third day because of the cost of housing the teams an additional night.  Athletic budgets are tight. 

Only three of the seven teams in the league average more than one home run per contest.  Platteville has the most home runs with 40 in 33 games.  Point has 33 in 31 games and WHITEWATER has 35 in 33 games. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 30, 2010, 10:20:24 PM
Quote from: pickleshiner on April 30, 2010, 03:20:44 PM
The rules should change. WIAC games get boring after 5 innings.  No pitching and guys hitting pop ups out of the park.  I wouldn't be opposed to wood bats so we can see who really can hit.

That's already been done. 1999.

http://www.wiacsports.com/baseball/99/lgteams.htm
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on April 30, 2010, 10:54:21 PM
Let's go back to wood bats and do all 4 games in 1 day beginning at 11:00 A.M.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: eccfbaseballer on May 01, 2010, 08:20:59 AM
What about a six team single elimination tournament. Top two teams get byes. The top two teams are more than likely going to receive bids to the tournament anyway. If a 3-6 seeded teams wins it, the wiac would have 3 teams going which is usually the case, with this year being an exception.
As far as venues go there are some other options. Maybe one year at Witter and possibly looking  at Carson Park in Eau Claire. Great facility and the only team that may be using it on a weekend is the Bears, but the wiac tournament would obviously have priority every other year.
I don't know why Stout hasn't look into playing a home series there?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on May 01, 2010, 03:53:15 PM
Point lost 4-2 to Lacrosse game 1 today.  They had better win the next 3 and 4 at Stout or they may not make regionals unless they win the tourney.  Great outing by Lorenz wasted as Point has no bullpen.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on May 01, 2010, 05:04:40 PM
You are an idiot!!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on May 01, 2010, 08:16:21 PM
Take a look in the mirror.  Obviously your one of those ideotic parents who think just because your kids a coach the team is great.  Point is not a legit contender without Koback and anybody who really knows baseball realizes it.  I can guarantee you I've been a Pointer fan far longer than you have and the people that have been around for the long haul know this is a down year for Point.  Inconsistent hitting with 1-2 solid pitchers and no bullpen whatsoever.  You can't just think oh we're Point we'll get in because we're Point.  LaCrosse is awful and just like Oshkosh has NO business beating us even if we're playing blind.  Another typical game of Point playing to the other team's level.  Some of this has to be blamed on Coach Bloom.  Get the kids ready to play and if their not performing get them out and make a statement.  At the level Point is playing I personally don't want them to make regionals because it will be 2 and out.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 01, 2010, 08:44:35 PM


What kind of fan doesn't want the team he claims as his to make the post season because they might lose.    ???
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on May 01, 2010, 09:30:46 PM
Because it's getting frustrating seeing Point win 30 games a year and choking when it comes to crunch time.  Of course I want them to make regionals but am realistic and know they have no chance to do anything unless they start playing baseball every game no matter who the opponent is.  I realize they can beat Whitewater on any given day but they also can lose to Oshkosh, St. Norbert, and LaCrosse on any given day.  It's alumni day today and they give that kind of effort.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 01, 2010, 10:05:43 PM
Quote from: pickleshiner on May 01, 2010, 09:30:46 PM
Because it's getting frustrating seeing Point win 30 games a year and choking when it comes to crunch time.  Of course I want them to make regionals but am realistic and know they have no chance to do anything unless they start playing baseball every game no matter who the opponent is.  I realize they can beat Whitewater on any given day but they also can lose to Oshkosh, St. Norbert, and LaCrosse on any given day.  It's alumni day today and they give that kind of effort.

??? Someone needs to remind you that for the last 5 years (other than last year when there was a three way tie), UWSP has failed to win the conference regular season title, yet, during "crunch time" at the conference tournament, pulls out the win and the automatic qualifier tag. Seems to me you have things backward - fail during the regular season only to put it together at conference tournament time. Frustrated? Real Point fans  ;) are probably used to it by now!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 02, 2010, 12:20:51 AM
I'm not an "ideotic" parent and I also think you are an idiot. It's clear there is no connection between your brain and your mouth.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 02, 2010, 01:04:24 AM
BTW, is "ideotic" a word?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on May 02, 2010, 01:09:22 AM
I guess if being right makes you "ideotic" I'm fine with it.  I've come to realize we have a lot of "know it alls" or "wanna be know it alls" on here.  Everyone has the right to their opinion and this is a message board so I'm going to post what I believe.  Say I'm wrong all you want but I can promise you one thing their are a lot of people including former players I know that feel the same way I do.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on May 02, 2010, 02:04:19 AM
Quote from: pickleshiner on May 01, 2010, 08:16:21 PM
Take a look in the mirror.  Obviously your one of those ideotic parents who think just because your kids a coach the team is great.  Point is not a legit contender without Koback and anybody who really knows baseball realizes it.  I can guarantee you I've been a Pointer fan far longer than you have and the people that have been around for the long haul know this is a down year for Point.  Inconsistent hitting with 1-2 solid pitchers and no bullpen whatsoever.  You can't just think oh we're Point we'll get in because we're Point.  LaCrosse is awful and just like Oshkosh has NO business beating us even if we're playing blind.  Another typical game of Point playing to the other team's level.  Some of this has to be blamed on Coach Bloom.  Get the kids ready to play and if their not performing get them out and make a statement.  At the level Point is playing I personally don't want them to make regionals because it will be 2 and out.
I am not an idiotic parent. Yes my son is a coach this year. But I DO know they are NOT as solid as they have been in the past. And the Pointer parents know who YOU ARE. The word is out and you won't be getting the information that you got from a certain former player, and  we also know who he is.  I'm not sure why you think the team can't win without Koback. He was not a main part of the starting rotation last year.  Was he Player of the Year for the WIAC last year? I'm pretty sure it was Jeremy Richter. They don't have a solid closer this year, and the pitching staff is going through some growing pains. You need to have consistant hitting in your lineup--no matter who you throw out there. Kody is a great kid and suffered an injury. I'm sure he will come back strong next year. I am not foolish enough to believe that Point will make regionals because they are Point. That is why you play the games. Seeing as you NEVER played at Point and probably didn't play baseball where ever you went, not sure what gives you the right to critize Coach Bloom or any of the parents. Bet you have never even coached baseball.  Why don't you do everyone a favor and go back to being a Parole Officer and stay away from the ballfield. Great example you are setting for your child.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on May 02, 2010, 08:23:33 AM
Part of being a college or professional coach is taking criticism.  I have no problem with Coach Bloom as the coach and for the most part think he does a tremendous job.  Do I think some things could change to make the team better, Absolutely.  1 idea I would've thought Coach Bloom would've have thought was trying Surman in Left, Arch in Center, and Spurney in right.  Douglas is great for a freshman but I think you would rather want veterans in the lineup come tourney and post season.  That I know for a fact I don't stand alone on.  As I've said a million other times just because someone has coached little league or played in college does not mean they are automatically a good coach.  Let's face it a lot of guys play in college because their just great athletes.  Doesn't mean they know crap about the game.  Whether kids parents like me or know me me doesn't matter as does my profession.  I certainly realize Point has a good chance of winning the conference tourney and getting an automatic bid but with the WIAC is this year I don't think we are automatically getting an at large especially if we don't take care of business today and at Stout.  I have never had any problem with your son and thought he was 1 of Point's best pitcher's of all time but did comment that I thought he should've been a starter.  That's my opinion it's all it is.  He came in for how many innings in regionals last year and dominated the World Series winner in St. Thomas.  I realize we didn't have a closer without him though.  As for my son he is just fine and my parening skills are just fine.  Don't get the wrong idea just because I get upset about Point not playing to their potential that I'm a terrible person.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 02, 2010, 08:37:38 AM
I'm yearning for the days when even bench-clearing brawls provided mellower banter. Yeah, I wrote "yearning." What of it?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on May 02, 2010, 08:51:42 AM
I have never intentionally tried to piss anyone off on here but know I have made people upset.  People take things the wrong way all the time.  Stating I feel Point isn't a legit national title contender without Koback too me isn't that big of a deal but I guess I can see how some people think it's insulting.  Of Course there's plenty of other great players like Fritz, Richter, Jirschele, Arch, and so on but from what I see pitching always wins in the end.  I realize Koback wasn't dominating as a pitcher last year during the season but guys throwing 92-93 are rare especially guys that can go 7-8 innings and still hit 90.  He's gone I realize it so I won't talk about it any longer. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 02, 2010, 10:23:53 AM
Quote from: pickleshiner on May 02, 2010, 01:09:22 AM
I've come to realize we have a lot of "know it alls" or "wanna be know it alls" on here.   


Hello pot, my name is kettle and we're black.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on May 02, 2010, 10:33:01 AM
I have to give you credit you always come up with a quick liner.  What are your thoughts on the Whitewater-Superior series?  The pitching rotation should have a nice long rest before the WIAC tournament not having to play any more conference games after tomorrow.  I know I'm not a big hit on here but can you give me some advice as to good hotels in the area for the WIAC tournament? 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 02, 2010, 12:43:46 PM
Christ you change usernames as often as some change their underwear....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 02, 2010, 12:47:11 PM
Quote from: kirbypuckett on May 01, 2010, 08:16:21 PM
LaCrosse is awful and just like Oshkosh has NO business beating us even if we're playing blind.  Another typical game of Point playing to the other team's level. 
I swear sometimes you just piss and moan just to hear yourself talk.....

Did you happen to look who beat Point in Game #1 yesterday?  I'll help you out, it was Mitch Running who going into the weekend had the lowest ERA in the WIAC.  He sure didn't hurt his numbers yesterday.  A good pitcher can can go a long way in helping their team win games.  Just look at Superior and T.J. Wink.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 02, 2010, 01:27:04 PM
Interesting to see Travis Helland back in the line-up today for Oshkosh....  Now he isn't an All Conference type player, but it could give the Titans a bit of a shot in the arm.  I guess only time will tell...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 02, 2010, 05:43:09 PM
WHITEWATER clinches at least a tie for the WIAC regular season championship with an 11-3 win in Superior.  Aaron Lietner goes seven innings and gets the win.  Jeff Donovan, Matt Beyer and Rob Coe all hit home runs.  The WARHAWKS scored five runs in the top of the first.  

Game two in progress.  
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 02, 2010, 05:51:17 PM
Quote from: kirbypuckett on May 02, 2010, 10:33:01 AM
What are your thoughts on the Whitewater-Superior series?  The pitching rotation should have a nice long rest before the WIAC tournament not having to play any more conference games after tomorrow.  I know I'm not a big hit on here but can you give me some advice as to good hotels in the area for the WIAC tournament? 

I don't see us not winning enough games to take the conference regular season championship outright.

There are two hotels in WHITEWATER.  The Best Value Inn (formerly Super Eight) and Baymont Inn and Suites.  BIS has an indoor swimming pool.  Some people, and most of the visiting teams, choose to stay in either Janesville or Fort Atkinson.  Fort has a nice Holiday Inn Express, a Super Eight and an America's Best Value Inn.  Fort is about 9 miles from WHITEWATER.  Janesville is about 20 miles and has a full selection of hotels.  You can check them out here....

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=janesville+wi+hotels&aq=&aqi=&aql=&oq=janesville+wi+hotels&gs_rfai=&fp=a86c207b1c79523e
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 02, 2010, 06:18:43 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 02, 2010, 05:43:09 PM
WHITEWATER clinches at least a tie for the WIAC regular season championship with an 11-1 win in Superior.  Aaron Lietner goes seven innings and gets the win.  Jeff Donovan, Matt Beyer and Rob Coe all hit home runs.  The WARHAWKS scored five runs in the top of the first.  

Game two in progress.  
It appears as if the Game #2 result won't even matter, as La Crosse is taking it to Point in Game #2 of their doubleheader, 12-4 in the 6th inning.

Congrats to the Warhawks on their 6th regular season WIAC Championship in the last seven years.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 02, 2010, 06:57:15 PM
LaCrosse wins 15-5 in 8.

Thanks, cubs. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 02, 2010, 07:35:30 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 02, 2010, 06:18:43 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 02, 2010, 05:43:09 PM
WHITEWATER clinches at least a tie for the WIAC regular season championship with an 11-1 win in Superior.  Aaron Lietner goes seven innings and gets the win.  Jeff Donovan, Matt Beyer and Rob Coe all hit home runs.  The WARHAWKS scored five runs in the top of the first.  

Game two in progress.  
It appears as if the Game #2 result won't even matter, as La Crosse is taking it to Point in Game #2 of their doubleheader, 12-4 in the 6th inning.

Congrats to the Warhawks on their 6th regular season WIAC Championship in the last seven years.

Warhawks take game two 10-2. Jeff Donovan gets the win going 7.2 innings, 5 hits, 2 runs, 1 earned over Wink (8 hits, 5 runs - 3 ER). WW scores 6 in the last 2 frames to break open a close game. Five UWS errors ruined their opportunities (6 unearned runs)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 02, 2010, 07:58:10 PM
Things should be AWFULLY exciting next weekend!!  Although Whitewater and Point have the #1 and #2 seeds locked up (unless Superior wins a game tomorrow) the race for the #3 seed involves four teams.

So here is where things stand going into next weekend:

Platteville 9-11
Superior 8-10 (2 vs Whitewater tomorrow.)
Oshkosh 8-12
La Crosse 8-12

Platteville controls their own destiny...  If they win three out of four over Superior, they take the #3 seed.  The only way it wouldn't happen is if La Crosse swept Oshksoh.  Even if Oshkosh swept La Crosse they would lose the tie-breaker since Platteville beat Whitewater once and Oshkosh went 0-4 against Whitewater.

Am I missing anything?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on May 02, 2010, 09:39:37 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 02, 2010, 05:51:17 PM
Quote from: kirbypuckett on May 02, 2010, 10:33:01 AM
What are your thoughts on the Whitewater-Superior series?  The pitching rotation should have a nice long rest before the WIAC tournament not having to play any more conference games after tomorrow.  I know I'm not a big hit on here but can you give me some advice as to good hotels in the area for the WIAC tournament? 

I don't see us not winning enough games to take the conference regular season championship outright.

There are two hotels in WHITEWATER.  The Best Value Inn (formerly Super Eight) and Baymont Inn and Suites.  BIS has an indoor swimming pool.  Some people, and most of the visiting teams, choose to stay in either Janesville or Fort Atkinson.  Fort has a nice Holiday Inn Express, a Super Eight and an America's Best Value Inn.  Fort is about 9 miles from WHITEWATER.  Janesville is about 20 miles and has a full selection of hotels.  You can check them out here....

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=janesville+wi+hotels&aq=&aqi=&aql=&oq=janesville+wi+hotels&gs_rfai=&fp=a86c207b1c79523e
Thanks for the hotel info. Congrats on winning the conference.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on May 02, 2010, 09:54:28 PM
Quote from: kirbypuckett on May 02, 2010, 08:51:42 AM
I have never intentionally tried to piss anyone off on here but know I have made people upset.  People take things the wrong way all the time.  Stating I feel Point isn't a legit national title contender without Koback too me isn't that big of a deal but I guess I can see how some people think it's insulting.  Of Course there's plenty of other great players like Fritz, Richter, Jirschele, Arch, and so on but from what I see pitching always wins in the end.  I realize Koback wasn't dominating as a pitcher last year during the season but guys throwing 92-93 are rare especially guys that can go 7-8 innings and still hit 90.  He's gone I realize it so I won't talk about it any longer. 
Nice to throw 90 + mph, but if you have no control, who cares if you are still hitting 90+ in the 7th or 8th inning?  Good hitters will wait and crush the ball somewhere. Jordan Zimmerman was a great pitcher for Point and i'm sure he had more than just a fastball. Nix could throw over 90 but had no control.  I think you need to be cautious with Kody. See what happens when he is healthy and back on the mound. As far as the hitters you mentioned, Fritz is ON FIRE. The rest are not consistant enough for the Pointers to do some serious damage. These are great kids, but you need solid production from your offense top to bottom to also help you win games.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 03, 2010, 07:20:51 PM
The WARHAWKS completed the series sweep of Superior today winning by scores of 17-7 (7 innings) and 10-4.  Jason Hooper (5-2) picked up the win in the first game going 5.2 innings giving up 6 runs  (4 earned) on 7 hits.  Kyle Lee and Brock Liston pitched in relief.  The WARHAWKS put this one away early scoring 7 runs in the first and 7 more in the fourth.   Jordan Stine (2x4, 1 RS, 2 RBI, Double), Ben Kuhlmann (3x5, 2 RS, 1 RBI), Rob Coe (2x4, 2 RS, 3 RBI, Double) and Mike Kenseth (2x4, 3 RS, 2 RBI) had multiple hits.  Travis Wessels and Matt Beyer each had 2 RBI.  Nineteen WARHAWKS played in the game.

Superior led 1-0 in the second game before the WARHAWKS took the lead for good with a pair of runs in the fourth.  WHITEWATER added another pair of runs in the sixth, five in the eighth and a single run in the ninth.  Riley Tincher (11-0) got the win with a 7.1 inning, 4 hit, 11 strikeout effort.  Tom Kerndt finished the game.  Stine (2x4, 1 RS, 3 RBI, Double), Jeff Donovan (2x4, 1 RS, 3 RBI, Home run) and Coe (3x5, 1 RS) had multiple hits.  The WARHAWKS had five stolen bases and sixteen players saw action.  Attendance for the second game was listed as 15.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIACLUV on May 05, 2010, 11:41:05 PM
I know that Point is good, but late in the season dropping games to Lawrence is not good when battling for a C bid. Not conceding the WIAC tourney to the Warhawks quite yet, but as the #1 seed in this "tournament" they have a decided edge.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 06, 2010, 11:26:48 AM
That's a bad loss for Point no matter how you want to slice it.....  Their "B" squad should still be able to beat Lawrence's "A" squad....

shinetime/pickleshiner/kirbypuckett is probably on suicide watch as we speak.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on May 06, 2010, 03:52:09 PM
The worst thing I could've done last night was stay up until 10:00 to see the Point-Lawrence score.  I told my wife I don't know why I'm up I'm sure Point won by 15 or 20.  I stayed up watching the Suns-Spurs and caught the final and didn't get a minute of sleep on top of having a sinus infection.  I don't see how Point is ranked #4 in the regional rankings after losing to Lawrence and 2 to LaCrosse but I guess there's not a whole lot of better options out there.  Hopefully Point will wake up and take all 4 at Stout and be ready next Friday when it matters.  I'm actually to stunned by the Lawrence Taylor news to be on suicide watch over the Pointers play the past week. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 06, 2010, 03:55:13 PM
Quote from: kirbypuckett on May 06, 2010, 03:52:09 PM
I don't see how Point is ranked #4 in the regional rankings after losing to Lawrence 
The rankings are as of Tuesday's games. Obviously the Lawrence game hasn't been factored into the rankings yet.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanBystander on May 06, 2010, 04:11:44 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 02, 2010, 01:27:04 PM
Interesting to see Travis Helland back in the line-up today for Oshkosh....  Now he isn't an All Conference type player, but it could give the Titans a bit of a shot in the arm.  I guess only time will tell...

I'm so slow on the uptake this week (Work gets in the way of all the fun stuff), but looking at the game summaries, it looks like Helland started Game 3, played 1 inning in the field, then was pulled in the second.  Hopefully he didn't re-injure something.  Anyone know what's up or did Lechnir throw a 5 year guy a bone by starting him a game even with an injury?   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: eccfbaseballer on May 06, 2010, 06:40:26 PM
I agree Point should take 4 games from Stout this weekend.  Stout may get O'Connell back and have lost 10 games by one run and 2 games by 2 runs!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 06, 2010, 08:36:05 PM
The WARHAWKS rounded out the regular season with a pair of wins over Concordia (WI) by 7-4 and 12-1 scores.  Trailing 3-2 in the first game the WARHAWKS scored four times in the sixth and once in the seventh to put the game away.  Jeff Donovan got the start and went five innings giving up four hits, two runs (one earned) and striking out four.  Eric Schmitz (2-0) got the win with two innings of relief.  Kyle Lee and Ben Versnik each pitched a hitless inning to finish the game.  Ben Kuhlmann (2x4, 2 RBI, Double), Ryan Leavitt (2x4, 1 RS, 1 RBI, Double) and Matt Beyer (2x4, 1 RS, 2 RBI, Double, Triple) had multiple hits.  Jordan Stine (Double) also had an RBI.

The WARHAWKS scored twice in the second and third innings and then put the second game out of reach with five runs in the fourth, one in the sixth and another pair in the seventh.  Aaron Leitner (6-1) started and went five innings surrendering a single run on two hits.  Tom Kerndt, Jason Hooper, Andrew Bauer and Riley Tincher all pitched a single inning in relief with Kerndt, Hooper and Tincher each striking out two.  Rob Coe (3x4, 3 RS, 3 RBI, Home run) led the thirteen hit WARHAWK offense.  Daniel Putnam (2x4, 1 RS, 2 RBI, Home run), Mike Kenseth (2x4) and Ryan Leavitt (2x4, 1 RS, 3 RBI) had multiple hit games.  Jeff Donovan (Home run), Stine, Kuhlmann and Nick Rechlitz all had RBI. 

WHITEWATER concludes the regular season with a 35-4 record. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 07, 2010, 12:10:02 PM
Quote from: TitanBystander on May 06, 2010, 04:11:44 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 02, 2010, 01:27:04 PM
Interesting to see Travis Helland back in the line-up today for Oshkosh....  Now he isn't an All Conference type player, but it could give the Titans a bit of a shot in the arm.  I guess only time will tell...
I'm so slow on the uptake this week (Work gets in the way of all the fun stuff), but looking at the game summaries, it looks like Helland started Game 3, played 1 inning in the field, then was pulled in the second.  Hopefully he didn't re-injure something.  Anyone know what's up or did Lechnir throw a 5 year guy a bone by starting him a game even with an injury?   
He did have a ball hit out to him in the first inning, so a re-injury is indeed possible.  I have no first hand information, and from talking to a guy that was there, he didn't even realize Helland was out there.  He just assumed it was Layton from the start.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 07, 2010, 01:16:20 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on April 30, 2010, 10:20:24 PM
Quote from: pickleshiner on April 30, 2010, 03:20:44 PM
The rules should change. WIAC games get boring after 5 innings.  No pitching and guys hitting pop ups out of the park.  I wouldn't be opposed to wood bats so we can see who really can hit.
That's already been done. 1999.

http://www.wiacsports.com/baseball/99/lgteams.htm
I swear everytime I'm just about ready to forget about that season, someone has to bring it back up.....  :'(
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 07, 2010, 01:21:38 PM
All WIAC Doubleheaders scheduled for today have been postponed.  They will be made up on Sunday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2010, 06:57:59 PM
Point 10
Stout 8
-Yusten- 2x4, 2 HR, 6 RBI

Point 10
Stout 0
-Delorit with CG 2-hit shut-out

Oshkosh 7
La Crosse 1
-Westphal CG victory

Oshkosh 12
La Crosse 3
-Mrkvicka CG victory
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2010, 08:08:52 PM
Platteville/Superior split. 
Gm 1  Platteville 5-2
Gm 2  Superior 6-1

Platteville 10-12
Oshkosh 10-12
Superior 9-13

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2010, 10:02:29 PM
Here is how I have things figured going into tomorrow:
1.  Whitewater
2.  Stevens Point

3.  See Below

A.  Platteville-They coontrol their own destiny.  They sweep Superior tomorrow and they are in regardless of what else happens.

B.  Superior-They need to sweep Platteville tomorrow, AND have La Crosse beat Oshkosh one time tomorrow.

C.  Oshkosh-They need to sweep tomorrow AND have Superior beat Platteville at least once.  If they lose once they are eliminated regardless of what happens in the other games, due to losing tie-breakers with both Platteville and Superior.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2010, 10:42:13 PM
It sure would be nice if someone in Superior's athletic department could let the rest of the world know how the games went today.  I'm grateful that the scores are up but is it really so hard to get some box scores up? 

It seems like it is this way every weekend that Superior hosts another WIAC team.  You typically don't get the stats for Saturday's games until Sunday.  On the Platteville website it cites "computer problems in Superior" as the reason for not being able to provide box scores.  Give me a break!!!!

I would love to see what the pitching match-ups were today.  Did Wink throw for Superior?  Did Platteville throw Osmanski?  If either of these guys didn't throw (I would assume they both did) it would definitely give them the advantage heading into tomorrow's DH.

Looking at the other "meaningful" DH from today, I am surprised that Oshkosh was able to not only sweep La Crosse today, but get a pair of complete game victories from two guys not named Kannenberg.  I would assume Kannenberg would throw Game #1 tomorrow, knowing that they need to win both games, but what will Oshkosh do for Game #2?  I would guess it would likely be Wells, but your guess is probably as good as mine.

Regardless of the outcome, Platteville, Oshkosh, Superior, and La Crosse (to a lesser extent after today) fans have to enjoy getting to see meaningful games on the final weekend of the season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2010, 11:11:02 PM
So now that the WIAC Regular Season is coming to a close, what do people feel the All Conference team will look like?  In years past it has been the Top 15 position players, and Top 5 pitchers.

Here is mine:

Position Players
Brett Benesh-Platteville
Blake Berger-Oshkosh
Rob Coe-Whitewater
Jeff Donovan-Whitewater
Jake Duske-Stout
Nolan Fadness-Oshkosh
Jay Fanta-La Crosse
Eric Fritz-Point
Aaron Hopson-Platteville
Justin Jirschele-Point
Brett Olson-Superior
Jeremy Richter-Point
Paul Schlagen-Superior
Jordan Stine-Whitewater
Matt Trocke-La Crosse

Pitchers
Jason Hooper-Whitewater
Will Osmanski-Platteville
Riley Tincher-Whitewater
Scott Williams-Point  (Almost left him off due to his ERA)
T. J. Wink-Superior

So who did I miss?  I know there are some of you out there who like to tear apart my list each year, so lets hear it.   ;D

For me there were a couple of other guys that I had close to making it, but just missed, like Kuhlmann from Whitewater.  I wanted to put Kannenberg on as well, but even with 5 WIAC victories, his ERA was just too high.  The fifth pitcher was the hardest choice out of the 20 for me, and in the end I gave it to Hooper.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 09, 2010, 01:01:58 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 08, 2010, 11:11:02 PM
So now that the WIAC Regular Season is coming to a close, what do people feel the All Conference team will look like?  In years past it has been the Top 15 position players, and Top 5 pitchers.

Here is mine:

Position Players
Brett Benesh-Platteville
Blake Berger-Oshkosh
Rob Coe-Whitewater
Jeff Donovan-Whitewater
Jake Duske-Stout
Nolan Fadness-Oshkosh
Jay Fanta-La Crosse
Eric Fritz-Point
Aaron Hopson-Platteville
Justin Jirschele-Point
Brett Olson-Superior
Jeremy Richter-Point
Paul Schlagen-Superior
Jordan Stine-Whitewater
Matt Trocke-La Crosse

Pitchers
Jason Hooper-Whitewater
Will Osmanski-Platteville
Riley Tincher-Whitewater
Scott Williams-Point  (Almost left him off due to his ERA) Jeff Donovan-WW
T. J. Wink-Superior

So who did I miss?  I know there are some of you out there who like to tear apart my list each year, so lets hear it.   ;D

For me there were a couple of other guys that I had close to making it, but just missed, like Kuhlmann from Whitewater.  I wanted to put Kannenberg on as well, but even with 5 WIAC victories, his ERA was just too high.  The fifth pitcher was the hardest choice out of the 20 for me, and in the end I gave it to Hooper.

IMO, you should've left him off - Donovan's stats are simply better (sorry for the poor formatting):


Conference games only
Player                  ERA   W-L   APP  GS  CG SHO/CBO SV    IP   H   R  ER  BB  SO  2B  3B  HR   AB B/Avg   WP HBP  BK

Jeff Donovan, WW...  2.88   3-0     5   5   0   0/0    0  34.1  25  14  11  14  14   7   0   1  119  .210    2   4   0
Scott Williams, STP..  6.62   4-1     6   5   1   0/0    0  35.1  44  29  26  15  35   7   0   5  143  .308    1   7   0

I also think Hopson is a stretch - batted only .270 in conference games (among the lowest of every game players). Kuhlmann is currently 2nd in the league in strikeouts with 20, but did hit .308. Cummings from Superior should also get a look, if Hopson is on there.

Donovan - position player of year
Tincher - pitcher of the year
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 09, 2010, 01:21:19 AM
I disagree with only a few guys here or there.
All things being equal, Donovan vs. Fritz for POTY would be a good one. But the teams were not equal. Like you guys I'll give the nod to Donovan because the of the WIAC title, although Fritz probably had the better WIAC season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on May 09, 2010, 12:10:32 PM
How about Jordan Rennicke?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2010, 12:32:15 PM
Quote from: BoBo on May 09, 2010, 01:01:58 AM
I also think Hopson is a stretch - batted only .270 in conference games (among the lowest of every game players). Kuhlmann is currently 2nd in the league in strikeouts with 20, but did hit .308. Cummings from Superior should also get a look, if Hopson is on there.
I thought the same thing, but then remember a guy who hit .286 last season, with on OB% of .327 somehow found his way on there last season.

Hopson's .270 and .390 are similar so why not?  His 5 HR's also put him in the Top 5 of the WIAC this season.

Oh yeah....  That other guy was Whitewater's Kevin Zalnis.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2010, 12:41:12 PM
Quote from: OshDude on May 09, 2010, 01:21:19 AM
I disagree with only a few guys here or there.
All things being equal, Donovan vs. Fritz for POTY would be a good one. But the teams were not equal. Like you guys I'll give the nod to Donovan because the of the WIAC title, although Fritz probably had the better WIAC season.
I would have to go with Fritz....

WIAC Leader in Batting Average, Slugging Percentage, Hits, and Total Bases....
3rd in OB %, Runs scored, Doubles, Triples, and Home Runs
4th in RBI's

Dononvan is only in the Top Five in five of those ten categories, while Fritz is in all ten.  Fritz also hit nearly 100 points better than Donovan.  That's more than just a couple of hits here or there....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Mikewink64 on May 09, 2010, 01:21:25 PM
On Game One UW Superior Wink Pitched CG for the loss vs Byrne & Osmsnski Closed the 9th inn for Plattville.UW Superior couldnt get the bat's going. Game Two Was UW Superior Mike Swanson vs Oppriecht , UW Superior had 2 , 3 run Blast's in the Game for it's 6 run's.. Swanson pitched CG also for UW Superior.. Oppriecht Was chased early ... Which Makes for a Very Interesting Match up's today with Osmanski to start one of the Games..         
Quote from: cubs on May 08, 2010, 10:42:13 PM
It sure would be nice if someone in Superior's athletic department could let the rest of the world know how the games went today.  I'm grateful that the scores are up but is it really so hard to get some box scores up? 

It seems like it is this way every weekend that Superior hosts another WIAC team.  You typically don't get the stats for Saturday's games until Sunday.  On the Platteville website it cites "computer problems in Superior" as the reason for not being able to provide box scores.  Give me a break!!!!

I would love to see what the pitching match-ups were today.  Did Wink throw for Superior?  Did Platteville throw Osmanski?  If either of these guys didn't throw (I would assume they both did) it would definitely give them the advantage heading into tomorrow's DH.

Looking at the other "meaningful" DH from today, I am surprised that Oshkosh was able to not only sweep La Crosse today, but get a pair of complete game victories from two guys not named Kannenberg.  I would assume Kannenberg would throw Game #1 tomorrow, knowing that they need to win both games, but what will Oshkosh do for Game #2?  I would guess it would likely be Wells, but your guess is probably as good as mine.

Regardless of the outcome, Platteville, Oshkosh, Superior, and La Crosse (to a lesser extent after today) fans have to enjoy getting to see meaningful games on the final weekend of the season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2010, 01:50:35 PM
Thanks Mike!!!  Even as of now, there still aren't any stats up. 

Appreciate the report!!  Platteville would sure seem to have the advantage going into todays DH still having Osmanski available.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: UWP SID on May 09, 2010, 03:18:53 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 09, 2010, 01:50:35 PM
Thanks Mike!!!  Even as of now, there still aren't any stats up. 

Appreciate the report!!  Platteville would sure seem to have the advantage going into todays DH still having Osmanski available.

As soon as we get them from Superior, we'll put them up. Appropriately given the weather up there yesterday, their laptop froze after entering the games. If they can't get the computer unlocked, they'll have to type in the games from scratch and send them and post them that way.

BTW, Wil Osmanski was scheduled to start the second game today.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2010, 03:21:07 PM
Quote from: UWP SID on May 09, 2010, 03:18:53 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 09, 2010, 01:50:35 PM
Thanks Mike!!!  Even as of now, there still aren't any stats up. 

Appreciate the report!!  Platteville would sure seem to have the advantage going into todays DH still having Osmanski available.
As soon as we get them from Superior, we'll put them up. Appropriately given the weather up there yesterday, their laptop froze after entering the games. If they can't get the computer unlocked, they'll have to type in the games from scratch and send them and post them that way.

BTW, Wil Osmanski was scheduled to start the second game today.
I wasn't trying to imply it was your fault.....  Sorry if it came across that way.

BTW-Can you post a Game #1 final from today on here when you hear?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2010, 04:14:15 PM
Point 13
Stout 6     Final

Oshkosh 12
La Crosse 7    Final

Superior beat Platteville in Game #1, but I do not have the score.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: UWP SID on May 09, 2010, 04:26:47 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 09, 2010, 03:21:07 PM

I wasn't trying to imply it was your fault.....  Sorry if it came across that way.

BTW-Can you post a Game #1 final from today on here when you hear?

I didn't take it that way. I was just saying for all the advances with stat crew, live stats, etc. we are all still stuck if someone's laptop goes out.

Game One: UWS 11, UWP 8
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 09, 2010, 04:28:53 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 09, 2010, 04:14:15 PM
Point 13
Stout 6     Final

Oshkosh 12
La Crosse 7    Final

Superior beat Platteville in Game #1, but I do not have the score.
Ohhhh, baby.
EDIT: The openers today eliminate Superior, correct? By my math we're down to the obvious scenarios for UWO and UWP.
I have the Superior/UWO tiebreaker going all the way to La Crosse series.

Nevermind. I'm an idiot. Superior could be 3-1 vs. UWP.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 09, 2010, 06:39:04 PM
Game two:

Stout 5
Point 3
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2010, 07:28:24 PM
La Crosse 9
Oshkosh 8     Final/10 Innings

Platteville 10
Superior 5

Platteville gets the #3 seed and birth in the WIAC Tournament via the tiebreaker due to beating Whitewater once.

Another thing worth mentioning, was Mrkvicka coming back with 8 innings of solid relief work (3 runs) after throwing a CG victory yesterday.  I'm sure he earned some respect from a lot of people today.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2010, 08:30:46 PM
Any guesses as to what the pitching match-up will be Friday between Platteville and Point?  Would have to think Osmanski would go for Platteville, but who does Point send out?  Delorit didn't face Platteville this season, while Willaims and Lorenz were both able to beat the Pioneers.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on May 09, 2010, 08:37:05 PM
They say you have to play to win come tourney time and throw your ace which is Delorit right now but I think Lorenz should start Friday.  Point is going to need Williams and Delorit to win 2 against Whitewater.  I do think Lorenz could beat Whitewater too though so it's a tough choice.  Delorit has been lights out so it would pretty much be a lock for a W with him starting game 1.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on May 09, 2010, 09:19:51 PM
Anyone else think in the past 2 weeks how much better Whitewater could have been this year even though they've had an outstanding year?  Just imagine if Dott would've chosen to stay this year and Wong, Petrasko, and Lovera were all on the roster.  You would have Dott, Tincher, Leitner, and Donovan as your top 4 and Hooper as your closer.  On the other hand I was thinking this entire last week about Point and what could've been.  I believe Kyle Barry could've gotten a year of eligibility but chose not too.  They could've had a starting rotation of Delorit, Barry, Williams, and Koback with Van Beck for set up and Lorenz as a closer.  Not that Lorenz did bad as a starter but he could've solidified the bullpen.  If this would've happened this year does anyone else think these two lineups are better than the 2005 lineups for Whitewater and Point?  I know everyone's probably going to say Reinhard made the pitching staff so much better but after he and Tomasaviecz(spelling) they weren't that deep.  Point had J.C. Reinke, Zimmerman, Rickert, and Polomis.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on May 10, 2010, 04:14:24 PM
I would like to say 'way-to-go' to Jeff Donovan on producing for his team this season.

See ya' in the playoffs!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 10, 2010, 07:48:51 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on May 10, 2010, 04:14:24 PM
I would like to say 'way-to-go' to Jeff Donovan on producing for his team this season.

That's got to be one of the most heartwarming moments (comment) I can ever remember coming from D O.C.  Touching would be an understatement.  'Way to go' to you!!  ;) +k
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 11, 2010, 01:51:27 PM
Especially considering the ignorant comments he's made about Donovan in the past.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jpicard on May 11, 2010, 06:45:31 PM
Quote from: Mikewink64 on May 09, 2010, 01:21:25 PM
On Game One UW Superior Wink Pitched CG for the loss vs Byrne & Osmsnski Closed the 9th inn for Plattville.UW Superior couldnt get the bat's going. Game Two Was UW Superior Mike Swanson vs Oppriecht , UW Superior had 2 , 3 run Blast's in the Game for it's 6 run's.. Swanson pitched CG also for UW Superior.. Oppriecht Was chased early ... Which Makes for a Very Interesting Match up's today with Osmanski to start one of the Games..         
Quote from: cubs on May 08, 2010, 10:42:13 PM
It sure would be nice if someone in Superior's athletic department could let the rest of the world know how the games went today.  I'm grateful that the scores are up but is it really so hard to get some box scores up? 

It seems like it is this way every weekend that Superior hosts another WIAC team.  You typically don't get the stats for Saturday's games until Sunday.  On the Platteville website it cites "computer problems in Superior" as the reason for not being able to provide box scores.  Give me a break!!!!

I would love to see what the pitching match-ups were today.  Did Wink throw for Superior?  Did Platteville throw Osmanski?  If either of these guys didn't throw (I would assume they both did) it would definitely give them the advantage heading into tomorrow's DH.

Looking at the other "meaningful" DH from today, I am surprised that Oshkosh was able to not only sweep La Crosse today, but get a pair of complete game victories from two guys not named Kannenberg.  I would assume Kannenberg would throw Game #1 tomorrow, knowing that they need to win both games, but what will Oshkosh do for Game #2?  I would guess it would likely be Wells, but your guess is probably as good as mine.

Regardless of the outcome, Platteville, Oshkosh, Superior, and La Crosse (to a lesser extent after today) fans have to enjoy getting to see meaningful games on the final weekend of the season.

Okay for one thing it's pretty hard to put up box scores when we have no computer in superior. One computer crapped the bed and the other one no one could get it until sunday. So just be happy that you got the scores up!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on May 11, 2010, 10:41:58 PM
Let's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 11, 2010, 11:54:43 PM
Is it that you can only dish it out, not take it?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on May 12, 2010, 07:22:49 PM
Here's a nice story about Jeff Donovan from the school paper. Got to think he is a strong candidate for WIAC player of the year.

http://www.royalpurplenews.com/donovan-puts-on-dominating-display-as-dual-athlete-1.1478945
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: GBMAN on May 12, 2010, 11:43:11 PM
Quote from: Barber Greene on May 12, 2010, 07:22:49 PM
Here's a nice story about Jeff Donovan from the school paper. Got to think he is a strong candidate for WIAC player of the year.

http://www.royalpurplenews.com/donovan-puts-on-dominating-display-as-dual-athlete-1.1478945

Nice article Barber....... Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 13, 2010, 09:47:23 AM
Quote from: Barber Greene on May 12, 2010, 07:22:49 PM
Here's a nice story about Jeff Donovan from the school paper. Got to think he is a strong candidate for WIAC player of the year.

http://www.royalpurplenews.com/donovan-puts-on-dominating-display-as-dual-athlete-1.1478945
The WIAC gives both a Position Player of the Year and a Pitcher of the Year, and I'm not sure he would be my first choice for either.  That's not to say his numbers aren't great, I just think there is a guy that has better numbers across the board.

At the "position" side of things, I think Eric Fritz has numbers that more than make up the difference in placing 2nd to Whitewater in WIAC play.  He ended the WIAC play:

1st in- Batting Average, Slugging Percentage, Hits, Doubles,and Total Bases
3rd in Triples
4th in RBI's
5th in Runs Scored and Home Runs

As I said in an earlier post, Dononvan is only in the Top Five in four of those nine categories, while Fritz is in all nine.  Fritz also hit nearly 100 points better than Donovan.  That's more than just a couple of hits here or there.  I'm not trying to diminish what Donovan did offensively, as he had a nice season, but the numbers show just how good of an offensive year Fritz had.  The guy did just about everything the entire WIAC season.

From the pitching side of things, I'm not sure there is a clear cut favorite.  There seem to be a handful of guys that put up similar numbers.  Donovan's ERA is about a run better than the rest of the contenders, but his strikeout numbers are pretty low.  (I know high strikeout numbers don't make a great pitcher, but it seems that they always get more credit.)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on May 13, 2010, 12:13:19 PM
Ignorance is bliss, remember.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 13, 2010, 12:27:26 PM
I think Riley Tincher is the pitcher of the year and I don't think it's all that difficult of a decision.  He is the only undefeated pitcher in the league with almost twice as many wins as any other pitcher in the league, more appearances than any other and the second highest number of innings pitched.  His ERA is fifth in the league less than one run different than the league leader who has seven fewer appearances and twentytwo fewer innings.  He has the third most strikeouts and third fewest base on balls as well. Plus he's been the #1 pitcher for the league champion.

The position player of the year is a tougher choice.  Obviously I'd like to see Donovan get it but a very strong case can be made for Fritz.

Vodenlich should be coach of the year.  
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 13, 2010, 01:51:00 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 13, 2010, 12:27:26 PM
I think Riley Tincher is the pitcher of the year and I don't think it's all that difficult of a decision.  He is the only undefeated pitcher in the league with almost twice as many wins as any other pitcher in the league, more appearances than any other and the second highest number of innings pitched.  His ERA is fifth in the league less than one run different than the league leader who has seven fewer appearances and twentytwo fewer innings.  He has the third most strikeouts and third fewest base on balls as well. Plus he's been the #1 pitcher for the league champion.
Remember that they use WIAC-only statistics for the All Conference selestions.....

That said, Osmanski also has six wins for Platteville, and also appeared in 11 WIAC games just like Tincher.  Osmanski's ERA is actually a fraction better than Tincher's, and leads the WIAC in Innings Pitched.  Both stats lines are VERY similar, and with that said, the nod should go to Tincher, considering his team won the regular-season title.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 14, 2010, 11:03:47 AM
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!

Point not only decides against starting their "ace" against Platteville, but they also choose to bypass their #2 and #3 and go with their #4 Van Beck.   :o
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 14, 2010, 11:08:23 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 14, 2010, 11:03:47 AM
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!

Point not only decides against starting their "ace" against Platteville, but they also choose to bypass their #2 and #3 and go with their #4 Van Beck.   :o

Makes it clear that Bloom feels he has to win it to get a bid. Brilliant if it works and brutal if it backfires. Such is the life of a head coach.

Live Stats: http://www.sidearmstats.com/uww/baseball/index.htm (http://www.sidearmstats.com/uww/baseball/index.htm)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 14, 2010, 11:13:57 AM
With the set-up the way it is, even if Point loses, they "only" have to win three games, and still have their top three pitchers left to do so.  Not an easy task, but they would still have their top guys to do it.  If you are Whitewater you are definitely pulling for Platteville, as they are throwing their "ace" and will be pretty thin in the pitching department.

Now the question is, how long do you stay with Van Beck if he starts to struggle?   As I type this, Van Beck has allowed six out of seven base-runners to reach and Platteville leads 3-0 in the 2nd Inning.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 14, 2010, 11:18:29 AM
Platteville up 3-0 in second. (updated)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 14, 2010, 12:42:25 PM
Point scores 4 runs in the 4th and 6 runs in the 5th inning to take a 10-4 lead.  Van Beck still on the mound for Point, and Cox on in relief for Platteville.  Every starter but Thomas with a hit for Point.

EDIT: Thomas joins the hit parade as well now....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 14, 2010, 12:43:17 PM
Looks like Bloom is BRILLIANT (Unless they blow it and then he is an idiot!)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 14, 2010, 01:18:29 PM
Point goes from being down 3-0 heading into the Bottom of the 4th inning, to putting up three straight crooked numbers and defeats Platteville 17-6 in 7 innings via the mercy rule.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 14, 2010, 03:07:41 PM
In a match-up of "ace vs ace" both Whitewater and Point have been able to get to their opponents starters early for four run innings.

Whitewater put up four in the first (all unearned) inning off of Delorit while Point answered with four in the fourth inning off Tincher.  Both starters have also given up eight hits through four innings.

Fives are wild, as Whitewater and Point are tied 5-5 heading to the Top of the 5th inning.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 14, 2010, 03:11:39 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 14, 2010, 03:07:41 PM
In a match-up of "ace vs ace" both Whitewater and Point have been able to get to their opponents starters early for four run innings.

Whitewater put up four in the first (all unearned) inning off of Delorit while Point answered with four in the fourth inning off Tincher.  Both starters have also given up eight hits through four innings.

Fives are wild, as Whitewater and Point are tied 5-5 heading to the Top of the 5th inning.

sweet..thanks for the updates cubs
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 14, 2010, 04:00:30 PM
Point chases Tincher in the 6th inning putting up another four-spot to take a 9-5 lead.  Delorit seems to be getting stronger as the game goes along.

Following along with both games today, Point has gotten some great production out of their platoon at catcher with Rennicke and Considine.  Rennicke goes 4x5 against Platteville and watches from the bench as Considine goes 2x4 with a HR and 3 RBI's.

If Point holds on,they seem to have once again put themselves in great position to win the Automatic berth, winning two games without having thrown Williams or Lorenz.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 14, 2010, 04:02:04 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 14, 2010, 04:00:30 PM
Point chases Tincher in the 6th inning putting up another four-spot to take a 9-5 lead.  Delorit seems to be getting stronger as the game goes along.

Following along with both games today, Point has gotten some great production out of their platoon at catcher with Rennicke and Considine.  Rennicke goes 4x5 against Platteville and watches from the bench as Considine goes 2x4 with a HR and 3 RBI's.

If Point holds on,they seem to have once again put themselves in great position to win the Automatic berth, winning two games without having thrown Williams or Lorenz.

too bad...whitewatwer will have to win three in a row now. tough to do.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on May 14, 2010, 04:58:58 PM
Looks like Point brought their "A" game to the Tournament once again...Hopefully they can get the first one tomorrow so they'll get home early to celebrate!  Nice wins today fellas!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on May 14, 2010, 06:37:07 PM
Point vs Whitewater tomorrow at noon. Whitewater run rules Platteville. GO POINTERS!!! Lets make it 6 in a row!!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on May 14, 2010, 06:52:18 PM
Is Williams going to start game 1 tomorrow seeing he came in for 2 innings today when Point was up 10?  I thought it was a little odd that he came in with that big a lead but I'll take the W.  I'm guessing Lorenz will start the first game vs Hooper.  Hopefully Point will rock Hooper like the last time they faced him.  Good Luck.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on May 14, 2010, 08:05:54 PM
I think after today's impressive performance even if Point somehow doesn't win tomorrow they'll still get an at large.  They have already beaten the #2 team in the country 3 times and all 3 of the games weren't even close.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 15, 2010, 12:14:37 AM
Quote from: kirbypuckett on May 14, 2010, 06:52:18 PM
Is Williams going to start game 1 tomorrow seeing he came in for 2 innings today when Point was up 10?  I thought it was a little odd that he came in with that big a lead but I'll take the W.  I'm guessing Lorenz will start the first game vs Hooper.  Hopefully Point will rock Hooper like the last time they faced him.  Good Luck.
Ok....  First of all it was a 9-5 game when Williams came in for the 8th inning, not a 10-run lead as you suggest.  BIG difference between winning, and moving onto Saturday, and losing and having to play your third game in a row.  The amount he threw is roughly just like throwing a bullpen the day before your start, so I don't see any issue with it.

My guess is you will see Williams vs Hooper in Game #1 tomorrow, and if Whitewater wins, it will likely be Lorenz vs Donovan in Game #2.  Although Whitewater is likely already in the NCAA Tournament, they could solidify themselves as a #1 seed with a pair of wins tomorrow, so they are still playing for something.  With a Whitewater loss tomorrow, St. Thomas could snag that #1 seed (they would need to win thee straight games over the next two days, as they lost their opening game to Augsburg today while Schuld sat on the bench and watched) and possible first-round bye if the Midwest would end up being a 7-team Regional.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 15, 2010, 01:44:24 PM
Well Point jumps on Whitewater early putting up single runs in both the 1st and 2nd innings to take an early 2-0 lead.

Archambeau led off the bottom of the 1st inning with a solo HR off of Hooper, but Whitewater was able to escape a bases loaded, one out jam without any further damage.

Lorenz has allowed just one baserunner through three innings, a one out single to Putnam in the first inning.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 15, 2010, 02:46:54 PM
Whitewater finally gets to Lorenz for four runs in the 8th inning to take a 5-2 lead.  The big blows were a 2-run single by Putnam and a 2-run HR by Kuhlmann.

Hooper has really settled in since the 2nd inning, retiring 14 out of 17 hitters, giving up just a lone single and a pair of HBP's.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on May 15, 2010, 05:57:57 PM
Whitewater showed today why their #2 in the country.  Great effort by Point though.  Thought Point was a lock but just seen there were a ton of upsets today so I'm guessing Point will be left out.  St. Thomas acted like they had nothing to play for and Augsburg got the automatic bid.  Washington and Jefferson also choked today. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 15, 2010, 06:04:56 PM
Quote from: kirbypuckett on May 15, 2010, 05:57:57 PM
Whitewater showed today why their #2 in the country.  Great effort by Point though.  Thought Point was a lock but just seen there were a ton of upsets today so I'm guessing Point will be left out.  St. Thomas acted like they had nothing to play for and Augsburg got the automatic bid.  Washington and Jefferson also choked today. 
Hmmm ... I think UWSP is looking OK, UST is playing Augsburg for the MIAC Pool A right now (started at 5:04) and W&J can still win the PAC Pool A but is down 2-1 in the 4th. Pretty awesome post all around.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on May 15, 2010, 06:18:28 PM
Congrats to Whitewater. They were definetly the better team today.  Point left too many guys on base in both games today.  Hope they can get an at large bid, but was a good season none the less. Lost too much in pitching from last year. But did well with what they had.
Anyone going to the regional in Whitewater, make sure you have your walking shoes on. Not enough parking by the field, so you may have to park by the softball field and the fieldhouse.
Whitewater radio guys are the worse I have ever listened to. Kept calling Coach Bloom Steve, not sure which guy was up or calling the batter by the name of a Whitewater player when Point was batting. Listened to several games throughout the season(against more then Point) so it wasn't an isolated incident.
Not having followed the other regionals, I would have to say Whitewater should be the hands on favorite to make it to Appleton. Good Luck.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: d3baseballnut on May 15, 2010, 06:29:09 PM
Quote from: OshDude on May 15, 2010, 06:04:56 PM
Quote from: kirbypuckett on May 15, 2010, 05:57:57 PM
Whitewater showed today why their #2 in the country.  Great effort by Point though.  Thought Point was a lock but just seen there were a ton of upsets today so I'm guessing Point will be left out.  St. Thomas acted like they had nothing to play for and Augsburg got the automatic bid.  Washington and Jefferson also choked today. 
Hmmm ... I think UWSP is looking OK, UST is playing Augsburg for the MIAC Pool A right now (started at 5:04) and W&J can still win the PAC Pool A but is down 2-1 in the 4th. Pretty awesome post all around.

I agree.

I think UW-SP is getting a Pool C. They are fine.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 15, 2010, 08:01:20 PM
Jeff Donovan is absolutely clutch.  In the most important game of the year he takes the mound going 8.1 innings holding Point to seven hits and a pair of runs.  You can say all you want about Fritz and his numbers, and they were outstanding, he's a hell of a player, but Donovan's effort today is the thing POYs are made of.   

Rob Coe was hit by a pitch FIVE times in the three Point games.

I also think Point will get a Pool C bid.  The region just isn't that strong this year. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on May 15, 2010, 08:41:33 PM
Honest misstake on my post about St. Thomas and Washington & Jefferson.  I got a text today at my wife's graduation party and didn't get the chance at the time to double check.  He has told me St. Thomas choked and W&J also didn't win their tournament.  Either way Whitewater really looks good and it doesn't hurt having Donovan as your #4 pitcher.  One concern would be the way Point hit Tincher yesterday but he's been pretty impressive this year so I'm sure it was just 1 bad game.  I'm not giving up on Point as long as they get a pool C but Williams will have to pitch like he did round 1 against St. Thomas last year for Point to have a chance.  I love how Delorit is pitching so if they get in I think they could beat anyone first round including Whitewater and St. Thomas.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 15, 2010, 08:57:15 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 15, 2010, 08:01:20 PM
Jeff Donovan is absolutely clutch.

Nice that he was able to out duel Williams for the win!  ;)

Congrats to the Warhawks on a gutsy performance all around. Hooper, in game one, started out fighting for his very existence - but did a complete 180 and pitched a solid 7.1 innings.  Two error free games by the guys in the field also was clutch on the day.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: voice on May 16, 2010, 11:55:47 AM
Congratulations to U-Dub-Dub on securing the outright 2010 WIAC baseball championship. Winning both the regular season (outright) and the postseason tournament crown hasn't happened in the WIAC since the 2004 Warhawks did it in 2004. That team went on to finish 3rd in the Division III "World Series."    The 2005 Warhawks won the 2005 national title without winning the conference tournament.

This shameless plug.... you can follow the Warhawks on thier 2010 NCAA playoff run by clicking onto http://voiceseyeonbaseball.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 16, 2010, 12:36:19 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 15, 2010, 08:01:20 PM
Jeff Donovan is absolutely clutch.  In the most important game of the year he takes the mound going 8.1 innings holding Point to seven hits and a pair of runs.  You can say all you want about Fritz and his numbers, and they were outstanding, he's a hell of a player, but Donovan's effort today is the thing POYs are made of.   
Just to throw some numbers out there....

Fritz was 8x17 in this weeks WIAC Tournament, with 5 runs scored, but just one RBI.

Donovan on the other hand was 3x15 with three runs scored and two RBI's.

Now I will say Donovan was the definition of "CLUTCH" on the mound yesterday, but at the plate he was rather quiet the entire weekend.  I think Fritz proved he was the best hitter/position player in the WIAC this season, and this weekend just confirmed it. 

I'm sure he would trade it for the WIAC Championship and Pool A bid in a heartbeat though.... :-\
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: voice on May 16, 2010, 01:34:55 PM
If you go by season statistics for the WIAC Position Player of the Year I think Rob Coe, Jeff Donovan and Eric Fritz should all be highly considered for the postseason honor.  

Rob Coe  second in the WIAC in hitting to Fritz (both over .400).  Coe is flat out the best cather in the WIAC. The catcher is the tougher position and that is why I give Coe the nod (close nod) over Eric Fritz.  Coe helped lead his team to both the regular season & postseason title.

Eric Fritz Outstanding shortstop and led the WIAC in hitting .408 (Coe .403)  

Jeff Donovan  I had a major league scout tell me just prior to yesterday's WIAC championship game that Jeff Donovan is the pitcher he would want on the mound for UWW.  After being one of the top pichers in the state in high school Donovan had been used very little once he got to Whitewater.  He accepted the challenge and his record speaks for itself.  Yes I know that pitching is not what we are talking about here. So lets talk about Jeff as a position player.  Is there a better 1st baseman in the WIAC?  As a power hitter, Jeff led the WIAC  in both home runs (12) and RBI (60). He also hit for a .354 average. That doesn't make to shabby of an argument for Jeff to win the award.

Any of the three would be very worthy recipients of the award.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 16, 2010, 03:47:47 PM
Quote from: voice on May 16, 2010, 01:34:55 PM
If you go by season statistics for the WIAC Position Player of the Year I think Rob Coe, Jeff Donovan and Eric Fritz should all be highly considered for the postseason honor.  

Rob Coe  second in the WIAC in hitting to Fritz (both over .400).  Coe is flat out the best cather in the WIAC. The catcher is the tougher position and that is why I give Coe the nod (close nod) over Eric Fritz.  Coe helped lead his team to both the regular season & postseason title.

Eric Fritz Outstanding shortstop and led the WIAC in hitting .408 (Coe .403)  

Jeff Donovan  I had a major league scout tell me just prior to yesterday's WIAC championship game that Jeff Donovan is the pitcher he would want on the mound for UWW.  After being one of the top pichers in the state in high school Donovan had been used very little once he got to Whitewater.  He accepted the challenge and his record speaks for itself.  Yes I know that pitching is not what we are talking about here. So lets talk about Jeff as a position player.  Is there a better 1st baseman in the WIAC?  As a power hitter, Jeff led the WIAC  in both home runs (12) and RBI (60). He also hit for a .354 average. That doesn't make to shabby of an argument for Jeff to win the award.

Any of the three would be very worthy recipients of the award.
I already made the argument between Donovan and Fritz earlier in the week, and as I stated then and I will repeat now, the WIAC All Conference team is selected based off of WIAC only statistics.

With that said, Fritz was the only WIAC player to hit over .400, at .427.  Coe shows up in the Top 5 of exactly ZERO offensive categories (out of nine.)  Compare that with Fritz (nine) and Donovan (four) and I think Coe would finish third among these three candidates.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 16, 2010, 07:07:55 PM
Earlier this season we had the discussion about the better team.  The team that wins the war or the one that wins the final battle.  If my memory serves me among those who voiced an opinion  I was the only person who felt the team that wins the war is the better team.  Everyone else took the position that the team that can put it all together and win that final battle is the team that proved it is was best.   It's true that Donovan didn't have his usual numbers at the plate but the body of his work on the season is very respectable.  He was a critical part of the team that won the war and won it handily by five games.  And when it came to the final battle it was Donovan who put the ball in his hands and essentially shut down a Stevens Point offense that had blown it's opponents out of the water 24 hours earlier.  It was Donovan who won the final battle and that's the stuff that POY's are made of. 

I know I won't convince you cubs and that's fine.  Everyone has an opinion. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on May 16, 2010, 08:57:56 PM
It's amazing the year Donovan had for not playing last year.  It's a tough call between Donovan and Fritz and me being a Pointer fan I'll say Fritz but I can't disagree with your argument.  In the end all that matters is whose team advances farther and I'm guessing Donovan already has that unless the committee gives Point an opportunity.  It would also be a little odd for the player of the year not to be from the conference champion.  Fritz's numbers done lie though and it should be a heck of a battle again next year between Fritz and Donovan for POY.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 16, 2010, 10:35:44 PM
If it's called Position Player of the Year, it would be hard not to select Fritz, based on his offensive production. Overall numbers are superior, but not by much. If it's called MVP of the Conference, it would be hard not to select Donovan. When you consider all the numbers, offensively and pitching, he's hands down the conference MVP, IMO. I was thinking the only way to compare the two is if Fritz pitched, too - and when I check, he did pitch - 2 + innings with a 20.25 ERA  ;). As I said in an recent post, Tincher is probably the Pitcher of the Year, but Donovan isn't that far behind him either.

Quote from: kirbypuckett on May 16, 2010, 08:57:56 PM
Fritz's numbers done lie though and it should be a heck of a battle again next year between Fritz and Donovan for POY.

That might be a miracle waiting to happen as Donovan's eligibility will be exhausted following this season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on May 16, 2010, 10:52:14 PM
I could have swore I just read an article this week that stated his football career was over but he had 1 more year of baseball.  I'll take your word for it since you generally know Whitewater sports.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 16, 2010, 11:48:58 PM
Quote from: kirbypuckett on May 16, 2010, 10:52:14 PM
I could have swore I just read an article this week that stated his football career was over but he had 1 more year of baseball.  I'll take your word for it since you generally know Whitewater sports.

Being academically ineligible last spring means he lost the season - never to regain. badgerwarhawk, correct me if I'm wrong, but his college playing career is over once the Warhawks last out is recorded this season, right?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: voice on May 16, 2010, 11:59:01 PM
Quote from: BoBo on May 16, 2010, 11:48:58 PM
Quote from: kirbypuckett on May 16, 2010, 10:52:14 PM
I could have swore I just read an article this week that stated his football career was over but he had 1 more year of baseball.  I'll take your word for it since you generally know Whitewater sports.

Being academically ineligible last spring means he lost the season - never to regain. badgerwarhawk, correct me if I'm wrong, but his college playing career is over once the Warhawks last out is recorded this season, right?

Donovan IS a junior eligibilty wise for baseball purposes.

BTW - I'm not BadgerWarhawk but I have played him on television
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 17, 2010, 12:16:17 AM
Quote from: voice on May 16, 2010, 11:59:01 PM
Quote from: BoBo on May 16, 2010, 11:48:58 PM
Quote from: kirbypuckett on May 16, 2010, 10:52:14 PM
I could have swore I just read an article this week that stated his football career was over but he had 1 more year of baseball.  I'll take your word for it since you generally know Whitewater sports.

Being academically ineligible last spring means he lost the season - never to regain. badgerwarhawk, correct me if I'm wrong, but his college playing career is over once the Warhawks last out is recorded this season, right?

Donovan IS a junior eligibilty wise for baseball purposes.

BTW - I'm not BadgerWarhawk but I have played him on television

so voice, are you saying a student doesn't lose the year (season) if they don't play because they were academically ineligible? Something about that doesn't seem right?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 17, 2010, 09:55:07 AM
Quote from: BoBo on May 17, 2010, 12:16:17 AM
Quote from: voice on May 16, 2010, 11:59:01 PM
Quote from: BoBo on May 16, 2010, 11:48:58 PM
Quote from: kirbypuckett on May 16, 2010, 10:52:14 PM
I could have swore I just read an article this week that stated his football career was over but he had 1 more year of baseball.  I'll take your word for it since you generally know Whitewater sports.

Being academically ineligible last spring means he lost the season - never to regain. badgerwarhawk, correct me if I'm wrong, but his college playing career is over once the Warhawks last out is recorded this season, right?

Donovan IS a junior eligibilty wise for baseball purposes.

BTW - I'm not BadgerWarhawk but I have played him on television

so voice, are you saying a student doesn't lose the year (season) if they don't play because they were academically ineligible? Something about that doesn't seem right?

They still have 10 semesters of college to complete four seasons of eligibility, just like everyone else.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 17, 2010, 10:19:40 AM
Quote from: voice on May 16, 2010, 11:59:01 PM
Quote from: BoBo on May 16, 2010, 11:48:58 PM
Quote from: kirbypuckett on May 16, 2010, 10:52:14 PM
I could have swore I just read an article this week that stated his football career was over but he had 1 more year of baseball.  I'll take your word for it since you generally know Whitewater sports.

Being academically ineligible last spring means he lost the season - never to regain. badgerwarhawk, correct me if I'm wrong, but his college playing career is over once the Warhawks last out is recorded this season, right?

Donovan IS a junior eligibilty wise for baseball purposes.

BTW - I'm not BadgerWarhawk but I have played him on television



A performance worthy of an Oscar, Voice.   Having slept at a Holiday Inn Express recently I can confirm that Voice is correct and Jeff Donovan is a junior eligibilitywise for baseball.  

Just to clarify, a student-athlete uses his/her athletic eligibility when they practice and/or play after the first day of competition. The student-athlete has four years of athletic eligibility. In Division III, the student-athlete must complete this four years of eligibility in 10 full-time terms of attendance.

In Jeff's situation, he never used a year of athletic eligibility. Quite simply, he couldn't because he was ineligible. Jeff regained his athletic eligibility and so he has another season in the sport of baseball. In football, on the other hand, he has used all four years of eligibility.

While you can queston the process one should never forget that the ultimate goal is for the student-athletes to graduate.  

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 17, 2010, 10:42:45 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 17, 2010, 10:19:40 AM
Quote from: voice on May 16, 2010, 11:59:01 PM
Quote from: BoBo on May 16, 2010, 11:48:58 PM
Quote from: kirbypuckett on May 16, 2010, 10:52:14 PM
I could have swore I just read an article this week that stated his football career was over but he had 1 more year of baseball.  I'll take your word for it since you generally know Whitewater sports.

Being academically ineligible last spring means he lost the season - never to regain. badgerwarhawk, correct me if I'm wrong, but his college playing career is over once the Warhawks last out is recorded this season, right?

Donovan IS a junior eligibilty wise for baseball purposes.

BTW - I'm not BadgerWarhawk but I have played him on television



A performance worthy of an Oscar, Voice.   Having slept at a Holiday Inn Express recently I can confirm that Voice is correct and Jeff Donovan is a junior eligibilitywise for baseball. 

Just to clarify, a student-athlete uses his/her athletic eligibility when they practice and/or play after the first day of competition. The student-athlete has four years of athletic eligibility. In Division III, the student-athlete must complete this four years of eligibility in 10 full-time terms of attendance.

In Jeff’s situation, he never used a year of athletic eligibility. Quite simply, he couldn’t because he was ineligible. Jeff regained his athletic eligibility and so he has another season in the sport of baseball. In football, on the other hand, he has used all four years of eligibility.

While you can queston the process one should never forget that the ultimate goal is for the student-athletes to graduate.   

I believe that would be an Emmy, bw, "a performance worthy of an Emmy," since he played you on television  ;)  :D .

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 17, 2010, 11:13:20 AM
His performance transcended television thus the oscar.  :D 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on May 17, 2010, 12:28:36 PM
Has anyone seen Jeff Adams pitch for St. Scholastica?  0.98 ERA 8-0 record makes me a little nervous.  Is he better than Schuld from St. Thomas?  I'm guessing he will start against Point on Wednesday unless they throw Lewis.  Is Adams a lefty or Right hander and how hard does he throw?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 17, 2010, 12:36:50 PM
I haven't seen him pitch however according to the roster he is right handed.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 17, 2010, 02:55:51 PM
has there been a better all-around athlete than Donovan in the history of Warhawk athletics? It would be hard to find someone else....

I know we had some multi-sport athletes in the past, but to compete the way Jeff did at a very high level is second to none. Then again, my knowledge on UWW athletic history isn't the best.

Off the top of my head, Jake Walters had success in basketball and football, but I still think donovan had the better athletic career.

Congrats to the hawks on bouncing back and winning the WIAC tourny. tough to beat a great team like UWSP in back-to-back games. Not sure I want to face them again in the regionals  ;).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanBystander on May 17, 2010, 03:28:57 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on May 17, 2010, 02:55:51 PM
has there been a better all-around athlete than Donovan in the history of Warhawk athletics? It would be hard to find someone else....

I know we had some multi-sport athletes in the past, but to compete the way Jeff did at a very high level is second to none. Then again, my knowledge on UWW athletic history isn't the best.

Off the top of my head, Jake Walters had success in basketball and football, but I still think donovan had the better athletic career.

Congrats to the hawks on bouncing back and winning the WIAC tourny. tough to beat a great team like UWSP in back-to-back games. Not sure I want to face them again in the regionals  ;).


I agree that Donovan's results speak for themselves.  The fact that he's already won a National Championship in Football & could very well win one in baseball would trump anything else done by anyone in UW-W history - perhaps even trumping anything done in DIII history.  Could happen.... 

That said, my second place vote would be Jim Stoppenbach - UW-W Class of '84.   Football QB (I believe All conference) and multi time all conference player in Baseball.  From Jefferson WI.  I know him because I played against him in H.S.  Couldn't stand the guy because he killed us, but he was a really good person when he was on your side.       
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 17, 2010, 03:49:47 PM
Derek Stanley was a two sport All American in football and track.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 17, 2010, 07:26:35 PM
Quote from: TitanBystander on May 17, 2010, 03:28:57 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on May 17, 2010, 02:55:51 PM
has there been a better all-around athlete than Donovan in the history of Warhawk athletics? It would be hard to find someone else....

I know we had some multi-sport athletes in the past, but to compete the way Jeff did at a very high level is second to none. Then again, my knowledge on UWW athletic history isn't the best.

Off the top of my head, Jake Walters had success in basketball and football, but I still think donovan had the better athletic career.

Congrats to the hawks on bouncing back and winning the WIAC tourny. tough to beat a great team like UWSP in back-to-back games. Not sure I want to face them again in the regionals  ;).


I agree that Donovan's results speak for themselves.  The fact that he's already won a National Championship in Football & could very well win one in baseball would trump anything else done by anyone in UW-W history - perhaps even trumping anything done in DIII history.  Could happen.... 

Being that he was a member of the '07 team, as well, makes him a 2 time national champion in football.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on May 18, 2010, 11:18:18 PM
Here's a question whose the best all around Pointer shortstop over the past 10 years:  Jake Frombach, Justin Bushong, or Eric Fritz?  I'm curious to hear some opinions.  I'm going with Eric Fritz but by a narrow margin over Frombach. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BBGUY on May 18, 2010, 11:50:14 PM
I see WWater and SPoint are in the same regional. Was that necessary for them to possibly meet in the regional final? Are the other regionals set up with teams from the same conference? WW has won the D# football championship. SPoint has won the D 3 basketball championship. Do people get tired of seeing these WIAC teams win  thus putting them in the same region?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Mikewink64 on May 19, 2010, 01:17:15 AM
Ok :Question For You Guys: With The WIAC All Conference Awards Coming out ,,Is It Easier to be a Good Pitcher For a Less Winning ,Slightly Less Talented Team Within the Conference.. Or a Good Pitcher On a Conference Championship Team Or 2nd Place in Conference Team.. Case in Point .. Whitewater Pitcher's Don't have to face Whitewater Batter's in Conference Play.. The Same for Stevens Point Pitcher's ,they Don't Face Stevens Point Batter's..// So If some Pitcher's Were able TO have a Great Year & Good Stat's while facing both Team's Batter's Does That mean they did more to reach those good Stat's & Successful Year ??// Or am I just blowing smoke ?? ( I think the WIAC is one of the Toughest Conferences & has some of the Best Player's in the Country in it )   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: schmolph on May 19, 2010, 07:03:32 AM
kirbypickett, Jeff Adams is a good pitcher and has great numbers,however he has not faced the best competition. He is not in Schulds league,but is fully capable of beating anyone on any day. i am guessing he is low 80's. Pretty good off speed and breaking pitch and as you are I'm sure aware, if you throw strikes you always have a chance.CSS has a number of pitchers that can do the job. Lewis,Gerten, Retka etal
Freshman Vogelgesang has been Outstanding.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 19, 2010, 09:30:01 AM
Quote from: Mikewink64 on May 19, 2010, 01:17:15 AM
Ok :Question For You Guys: With The WIAC All Conference Awards Coming out ,,Is It Easier to be a Good Pitcher For a Less Winning ,Slightly Less Talented Team Within the Conference.. Or a Good Pitcher On a Conference Championship Team Or 2nd Place in Conference Team.. Case in Point .. Whitewater Pitcher's Don't have to face Whitewater Batter's in Conference Play.. The Same for Stevens Point Pitcher's ,they Don't Face Stevens Point Batter's..// So If some Pitcher's Were able TO have a Great Year & Good Stat's while facing both Team's Batter's Does That mean they did more to reach those good Stat's & Successful Year ??// Or am I just blowing smoke ?? ( I think the WIAC is one of the Toughest Conferences & has some of the Best Player's in the Country in it )   

If your kid is good enough, he will be recognized.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 19, 2010, 01:09:10 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 08, 2010, 11:11:02 PM
Position Players
Brett Benesh-Platteville
Blake Berger-Oshkosh
Rob Coe-Whitewater

Jeff Donovan-Whitewater
Jake Duske-Stout
Nolan Fadness-Oshkosh
Jay Fanta-La Crosse
Eric Fritz-Point

Aaron Hopson-Platteville
Justin Jirschele-Point
Brett Olson-Superior
Jeremy Richter-Point
Paul Schlagen-Superior
Jordan Stine-Whitewater
Matt Trocke-La Crosse


Pitchers
Jason Hooper-Whitewater
Will Osmanski-Platteville
Riley Tincher-Whitewater
Scott Williams-Point
 (Almost left him off due to his ERA)
T. J. Wink-Superior
Bolded are actual selections.....

Missed on Delorit, Donovan and Running as Pitchers, since they took eight pitchers instead of Duske, Hopson and Olson.

Fritz-Position Player of the Year
Tincher-Pitcher of the Year
Vodenlich-Coach of the Year
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 19, 2010, 01:16:16 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 19, 2010, 01:09:10 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 08, 2010, 11:11:02 PM
Position Players
Brett Benesh-Platteville
Blake Berger-Oshkosh
Rob Coe-Whitewater

Jeff Donovan-Whitewater
Jake Duske-Stout
Nolan Fadness-Oshkosh
Jay Fanta-La Crosse
Eric Fritz-Point

Aaron Hopson-Platteville
Justin Jirschele-Point
Brett Olson-Superior
Jeremy Richter-Point
Paul Schlagen-Superior
Jordan Stine-Whitewater
Matt Trocke-La Crosse


Pitchers
Jason Hooper-Whitewater
Will Osmanski-Platteville
Riley Tincher-Whitewater
Scott Williams-Point
 (Almost left him off due to his ERA)
T. J. Wink-Superior
Bolded are actual selections.....

Missed on Delorit, Donovan and Running as Pitchers, since they took eight pitchers instead of Duske, Hopson and Olson.

Fritz-Position Player of the Year
Tincher-Pitcher of the Year
Vodenlich-Coach of the Year

Hope you didn't break your arm patting yourself on the back!!  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 19, 2010, 01:24:51 PM
Forgot to mention that Brad Archambeau was selected as the Max Sparger Scholar Athlete.

The following were Honorable Mention selections:
Brad Archambeau-Stevens Point
Sean Cummings-Superior
Jake Duske-Stout
Mickey Fadness-Oshkosh
Nate Hanson-Stout
Zach Harazin-La Crosse
Aaron Hopson-Platteville
Kyle Kannenberg-Oshkosh
Kyle Kannenberg-Oshkosh
Mike Kenseth-Whitewater
Ben Kuhlmann-Whitewater
Aaron Leitner-Whitewater
Tyler Lorenz-Stevens Point
Troy Mrkvicka-Oshkosh
Brett Olson-Superior
Daniel Putnam-Whitewater
Sam Spurney-Stevens Point
Mike Swanson-Superior
Luke Westphal-Oshkosh

The following were selected to the All Sportsmanship team:
Shaun Marshall-Superior
Troy Mrkvicka-Oshkosh
Joe Nartowicz-Platteville
Matt Phipps-Stout
Lance Poppy-La Crosse
Nick Rechlitz-Whitewater
Sam Spurney-Stevens Point
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 19, 2010, 02:45:01 PM
'hawks win 6-1 in first round game...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brewers20 on May 19, 2010, 05:10:11 PM
Quote from: kirbypuckett on May 18, 2010, 11:18:18 PM
Here's a question whose the best all around Pointer shortstop over the past 10 years:  Jake Frombach, Justin Bushong, or Eric Fritz?  I'm curious to hear some opinions.  I'm going with Eric Fritz but by a narrow margin over Frombach. 
I'd have to go with Jake Frombach on that one, he was by far the best defensively out of the three, and he fit his role perfectly in the offense...Bush had an unbelievable senior year and should've been 1st team AC, but transferring from WW hurt him there, but didn't have as good of numbers his junior year (didn't help that he had to sit out a year because of the transfer rule).  Fritz can hit, no question there, but is shaky at times in the field.  I guess I have to go with Frombie because of consistency at a high level since his sophomore year.  All obviously excelled at the college level...Good ball players
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on May 19, 2010, 07:44:06 PM
Looks like Point was more than ready to play today killing St. Scholastica.  Carthage really could've made the regional interesting if Perez could've gone.  I have to believe Carthage would've won that game if he was on the hill with Schuld getting roughed up.  St. Thomas has so much pitching depth it's scary.  Point has to win tomorrow to have a chance at the world series whereas St. Thomas or Whitewater could lose and still have a very good chance.  I'm assuming Point throws Williams since he was lights out last year against St. Thomas.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 19, 2010, 08:21:48 PM
Quote from: kirbypuckett on May 19, 2010, 07:44:06 PM
Looks like Point was more than ready to play today killing St. Scholastica.  Carthage really could've made the regional interesting if Perez could've gone.  I have to believe Carthage would've won that game if he was on the hill with Schuld getting roughed up.  St. Thomas has so much pitching depth it's scary.  Point has to win tomorrow to have a chance at the world series whereas St. Thomas or Whitewater could lose and still have a very good chance.  I'm assuming Point throws Williams since he was lights out last year against St. Thomas.

Who's to say Perez wouldn't have been roughed up, too?
Is this a single elimination tournament for Point, while a double elimination for St. Thomas and Whitewater? Until Point records 2 losses, they are still in it - this is not a time to jump ship, Kirby P!!  ;) While Point lacks the pitching depth of the other two schools, when you have guys that can compete like Point does, anything can happen in regional play. Keep the faith, bud!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 19, 2010, 08:59:48 PM
Jeff Donovan didn't get POY but he was a first team all conference player at two positions.  [sarcasm]Maybe he should have focused on one.[/sarcasm] ;)

Schud was only "roughed up" in the first inning and a bit in the second.  After that there was little doubt who was in control.  I don't know that Perez would have made much difference. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: GBMAN on May 19, 2010, 09:07:34 PM
Nice outing by Tincher of Whitewater.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: schmolph on May 19, 2010, 09:32:29 PM
Congrats to Point,but what a pathetic performance by CSS.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on May 19, 2010, 11:21:55 PM
It was nice to see Jared Surman got in and did some damage at the end.  I'm a huge Surman fan and think he could come up huge for Point in this tournament.  He has a lot of pop and is one of those guys who can go yard on any pitch.  I just don't know how many opportunities he'll get. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 23, 2010, 05:00:02 PM
Story about UWO baseball in today's local paper. A sample:
Lechnir also believes it takes a certain type of personality and athlete to make it at UWO, one he said he's seeing less of as the years pass.

"In our program ... we require you to go to school," Lechnir said. "Is that different than most places? Yes. If they want to go to class every day and earn their grade, then it may be the right fit.


http://www.thenorthwestern.com/article/20100523/OSH02/100522013 (http://www.thenorthwestern.com/article/20100523/OSH02/100522013)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 23, 2010, 08:53:41 PM
Quote from: OshDude on May 23, 2010, 05:00:02 PM
Story about UWO baseball in today's local paper. A sample:
Lechnir also believes it takes a certain type of personality and athlete to make it at UWO, one he said he's seeing less of as the years pass.

"In our program ... we require you to go to school," Lechnir said. "Is that different than most places? Yes. If they want to go to class every day and earn their grade, then it may be the right fit.


http://www.thenorthwestern.com/article/20100523/OSH02/100522013 (http://www.thenorthwestern.com/article/20100523/OSH02/100522013)

Is he saying students/baseball athletes at UWSP and UWW don't go to class? That's what it sounds like to me. That has a Floyd Landis kind of tone to it!!  ;) 

IMHO, if the Points and Whitewaters of the WIAC world used the Oshkosh model to build their programs and now do it better than the original, it would be time for me to get a little humble, forget the excuses, and make some changes to hopefully turn the tide in the new WIAC-order. Otherwise, get used to the status quo!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 23, 2010, 09:24:33 PM
Typical Tom.  I almost spit milk out of my nose when the former UWO players said of some players who can't "make" it at UWO, "It's always someone else's fault."  Have you looked at your head coach?  "It's alway someone else's fault" could be his middle name.  He sure is good at holding players accoutable but he doesn't apply the same scrutiny to himself.

Other teams get good? "Our kids go to class, theirs don't"

Kids quit the program? "They didn't have what it takes to make it at Oshkosh."

He's drowning in denial.  I agree that kids are different than they were 10 and 20 years ago. In response he's chosen to whine about it and cut down programs who seem to be succeeding just fine with this type of kid.  How about you stop resting on your laurels and bellyaching about how soft today's kids are and figure out a way to succeed. If he's unwilling (obviously) or not a good enough coach (not likely) to adjust then step down and let someone else have a crack at it.  Until then quit the whining and finger pointing and get the job done.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 24, 2010, 09:25:40 AM
Just keep doing it the way you're doing it, Tom.  Don't change a single thing.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on May 24, 2010, 10:05:16 AM
Will the new AD at Oshkosh have what it takes to tell him change your style or we'll find someone who will? 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 24, 2010, 10:12:28 AM
Quote from: Suicide Squeeze on May 24, 2010, 10:05:16 AM
Will the new AD at Oshkosh have what it takes to tell him change your style or we'll find someone who will? 

No chance. Like it or not, Lechnir is there to stay as he has the credentials to keep him there. Winner (except for this season) get a much longer leash.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 24, 2010, 11:11:18 AM
I agree Poppa, with one caveat. I'll paraphrase from a good friend who has worked in D-III for years. 

He said, losing games will get the attention of the Athletic Director. And while that's not desireable, it's very rarely the lone cause for a dismissal in Division III. (Like Poppa said, someone with such a long track record of wins is in no danger for a few down seasons.)

However, losing students, when they transfer to another school, affects the school's bottom line.  That gets the attention of the FAR or the Dean or the Chancellor or whoever else is responsible for keeping classrooms full and spreadsheets balanced. Those are issues that higher-ups address.

Again Lechnir has a long history of success and has built up equity so there's no reason to believe he won't coach there as long as he chooses. But in Division III, the latter will get you shown the door faster than the former.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 24, 2010, 11:59:54 AM
I think Athletic Directors are becoming less tolerant today to behavior(s) or character traits that are detrimental to the ideals being stressed by our university administrators or mission statements. Unlike 5, 10 or more years ago, most AD's have wised up and are not going to go down with a sinking ship if they can all help it.  It doesn't matter if a coach is an institution at the school or not. An AD is going to show wayward coaches the way to the door if they determine someone doesn't share their same philosophy. Those who condone the behavior usually lose their jobs, too. It seems the new crop of modern day AD's have a lot less patience than those of days gone by. I'm not saying Lechnir should or shouldn't step down, just that I don't think that past success will protect him or anybody if they become too embarrassing to a program to keep onboard. Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 24, 2010, 09:28:12 PM
And in case anyone was wondering, the archives for the Academic All-District Team on the CoSIDA web site goes back to 2003.  In that time, UW-Oshkosh has had exactly ONE Academic All-District player and that was all the way back in 2004. By comparison, in that same time frame:

Academic All-District players 2003-2010:
UWW - 7
UWSP - 3
UWL - 2
UW-Stout - 1
UWO - 1

Maybe Tom's kids aren't going to class as much as he thinks.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: neverabenchwarmer on May 24, 2010, 09:29:44 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 24, 2010, 09:25:40 AM
Just keep doing it the way you're doing it, Tom.  Don't change a single thing.


Sure, you would like that - because UWO will continue not to be competitive with Whitewater or Stevens Point.   Because anyone with any sense and respect for themselves won't tolerate the emotional and physical abuse from Tom and they will leave too. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on May 24, 2010, 10:38:21 PM
Are any of the guys who left Oshkosh this season planning on playing next year?  I'm curious if Ben Sebesta or Andrew Eichstadt are going to play?  I don't know what to think about Oshkosh I know a few guys that played 4 years there and they have nothing but great things to say about Lechnir. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 24, 2010, 10:43:23 PM
Lechnir is very well-respected by other coaches.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: neverabenchwarmer on May 25, 2010, 12:56:32 AM
Quote from: Suicide Squeeze on May 24, 2010, 10:38:21 PM
Are any of the guys who left Oshkosh this season planning on playing next year?  I'm curious if Ben Sebesta or Andrew Eichstadt are going to play?  I don't know what to think about Oshkosh I know a few guys that played 4 years there and they have nothing but great things to say about Lechnir. 

I think you either love Lechnir or hate him - there is no in between.  I am curious to how long ago those guys you know played for him.  I also think it was different a few years ago when he had assistant coaches that were not former players.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on May 25, 2010, 08:06:57 AM
Anywhere from last year to 12 years ago.  Not every guy I know loved Lechnir but the majority did.  I agree with you that it can be a problem having assistant coaches that were former players.  It's worked out really good for Point over the years but generally the former players only coach 1 year and their gone. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 25, 2010, 09:47:24 AM
I had a high school football coach who was an abusive SOB.  He once struck me with his  fraternity paddle so hard it drove my head into a locker and I had a large welt on my butt.  He would get so mad at us in practice that his face would turn red and the veins in his neck would pop out.  Swearing and calling us names were simply par for the course.  On one occassion he got into a fist fight with a parent on the sideline during a practice.  At the time I respected him and didn't think anything of it.  I probably deserved getting smacked with his fraternity paddle.  After all I did sack the quarterback in a scrimmage.  It was only after I'd grown some that I came to realize how abusive and what a SOB he really was.  Coaches and athletes have a different sort of relationship.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on May 25, 2010, 03:38:23 PM
you really have to hit a guy hard in the head to leave a welt on his butt.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 25, 2010, 07:53:58 PM
Quote from: janesvilleflash on May 25, 2010, 03:38:23 PM
you really have to hit a guy hard in the head to leave a welt on his butt.

:D  ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 26, 2010, 09:45:55 AM
Congrats to Jeff Donovan.  Donovan was the only WIAC player to make D3baseball.com's All American teams.  Interestingly, and similar to the All Conference team selections,  Jeff made the All American second team at two positions, utility position player and utility pitcher.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 26, 2010, 10:04:16 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 26, 2010, 09:45:55 AM
Congrats to Jeff Donovan.  Donovan was the only WIAC player to make D3baseball.com's All American teams.  Interestingly, and similar to the All Conference team selections,  Jeff made the All American second team at two positions, utility position player and utility pitcher.

Are you or anyone surprised that this All-American team couldn't find a place for Riley Tincher, the owner of a 13-1 record with over 100 innings pitched, plus on a pretty good team in a pretty good conference?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 26, 2010, 10:12:05 AM
Quote from: BoBo on May 26, 2010, 10:04:16 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 26, 2010, 09:45:55 AM
Congrats to Jeff Donovan.  Donovan was the only WIAC player to make D3baseball.com's All American teams.  Interestingly, and similar to the All Conference team selections,  Jeff made the All American second team at two positions, utility position player and utility pitcher.

Are you or anyone surprised that this All-American team couldn't find a place for Riley Tincher, the owner of a 13-1 record with over 100 innings pitched, plus on a pretty good team in a pretty good conference?

Hey, don't look at me. I voted him as a first teamer and listed him as my second choice for National Pitcher of the Year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on May 26, 2010, 01:41:45 PM
Take a look at what Stevens Point did to St. Scholastica ace Jeff Adams.  Not saying Adams isn't really good but who did he pitch against this year?  I think one could argue Tincher should've been selected over Adams even though Adams was unbeaten during the regular season with an ERA under 1.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 26, 2010, 08:27:51 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 26, 2010, 10:12:05 AM
Quote from: BoBo on May 26, 2010, 10:04:16 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 26, 2010, 09:45:55 AM
Congrats to Jeff Donovan.  Donovan was the only WIAC player to make D3baseball.com's All American teams.  Interestingly, and similar to the All Conference team selections,  Jeff made the All American second team at two positions, utility position player and utility pitcher.

Are you or anyone surprised that this All-American team couldn't find a place for Riley Tincher, the owner of a 13-1 record with over 100 innings pitched, plus on a pretty good team in a pretty good conference?

Hey, don't look at me. I voted him as a first teamer and listed him as my second choice for National Pitcher of the Year.

We come to expect this kind of logical decision from someone with your baseball IQ. +k Unfortunately, it would appear the majority of other voters are not the brightest candles on the cake when it comes to doing this sort of thing!!  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: brewcrew2008 on May 26, 2010, 08:34:45 PM
I'd like to say congrats to the Pointers on the Midwest regional title. I think everyone knew the team could hit but once Koback went down they weren't sure how the staff would respond and as they showed last week at the regional they've all done a pretty good job getting it done this year despite being understaffed. Also kudos to Iverson who I learned is only pitching because he broke his left hand in Florida which meant he couldn't bat and instead of taking the medical red shirt decided to go to the bullpen to help them out, pretty cool that he ended up scoring the winning run. Now let's hope the staff can stay hot and let's bring a national championship back to Point!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on May 27, 2010, 06:17:51 AM
QuoteI had a high school football coach who was an abusive SOB.

What fraternity and did the paddle have holes in the blades and machined length-wise down the middle to vibrate upon contact?

I believe I picked Jeff pre-season A-A in two different positions - didn't I?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 27, 2010, 06:27:41 AM
Quote from: D O.C. on May 27, 2010, 06:17:51 AM
I believe I picked Jeff pre-season A-A in two different positions - didn't I?

...funny, I don't actually recall it happening that way!!  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 28, 2010, 02:20:56 PM
Point squanders a big lead (led 7-1 at one point) as Cortland scores three runs in the 8th and two more in the 9th to come from behind and defeat the Pointers 9-8.  Delorit threw well, but Point's bullpen was unable to hold the lead. 

Williams takes the loss, giving up two runs in 0.2 innings of relief.  Point really needed to get a win in this game, as they threw not only their #1, but also their #2 and #3 in relief.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 28, 2010, 02:36:48 PM
Quote from: BoBo on May 26, 2010, 10:04:16 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 26, 2010, 09:45:55 AM
Congrats to Jeff Donovan.  Donovan was the only WIAC player to make D3baseball.com's All American teams.  Interestingly, and similar to the All Conference team selections,  Jeff made the All American second team at two positions, utility position player and utility pitcher.


Tincher named to ABCA's All American second team.  Fritz is on the third team.
http://www.abca.org/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=18900&ATCLID=1246784
Are you or anyone surprised that this All-American team couldn't find a place for Riley Tincher, the owner of a 13-1 record with over 100 innings pitched, plus on a pretty good team in a pretty good conference?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on May 29, 2010, 02:10:40 PM
Nice come back Point!! Keep it going!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 30, 2010, 01:23:29 AM
Quote from: szlongball on May 29, 2010, 02:10:40 PM
Nice come back Point!! Keep it going!!!

szlongball, who will the Pointers put on the mound against the 'burg?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on May 31, 2010, 02:09:14 AM
Hey Bobo, Just checking the site as I am on my way back to Wisconsin from Virginia. Had to figure it would be Tyler Lorenz.  Nice little run by the Pointers. I'm sure the Warhawk fans will all be saying how Whitewater would have faired better. They may have, but Point did what they needed to do to get to the World Series. Want to believe that Point will be in good shape next year with starting pitching. Williams, DeLorit will be the studs. I think Van Beck will be fine as the 3 or 4 starter. If Kody Koback comes back strong, he has to figure in the equation. Need to recruit some solid pitching for the bullpen.  Shouldn't need a lot as far as the bats go. Glad they made it as far as they did, I for one really didn't think they would get as far as they did.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 31, 2010, 02:32:53 AM
szlongball, it was a good year - everyone had their ups and downs.  Next year should be more of the same fun. It's a long time off -- a lot is bound to happen between then and now. Point was a fine representative of the WIAC and I'm sure everybody wanted them to do well.  If they hadn't lost that lead on Cortland, who knows what would've happened. But that's baseball. Everyone still has work to do to bring home the walnut and bronze.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 31, 2010, 07:49:09 PM
Quote from: szlongball on May 31, 2010, 02:09:14 AM
I'm sure the Warhawk fans will all be saying how Whitewater would have faired better.

Both BoBo and I are WARHAWK fans and we haven't said it.   You won the Midwest Regional and the right to represent it in the Series.  Case closed.  Congrats on a successful season.  See you next year. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on June 01, 2010, 02:08:07 AM
Should be fun
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on June 01, 2010, 02:11:16 AM
Really great article on UWSP player Adam Saeger in the Appleton paper. He leaves for Iraq on June 17th. Kinda puts things in perspective. Would post link but I suck at that stuff. It is on the Pointers website though. Happy Memorial Day everyone.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 01, 2010, 10:18:25 AM
Here you go sz.....http://www.postcrescent.com/article/20100530/APC0206/5300625

Good luck to him.  It's a very brave thing that he's doing.  I hope everything goes well and he's wearing a Pointer uniform again soon.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on June 01, 2010, 07:27:17 PM
The ride is over for Point so just for fun I'm going to throw up a projected lineup for next year.  Great season for Point and good showing in World Series even though we went 1-2.  As was the case all year the hitting was just inconsistent and we were a little short on pitching depth.   I'm keeping my fingers crossed we get a 1-2 junior college transfers preferably 1 big power hitter to help offset the loss of Arch, Richter, and Spurney as well as Krueger and 1 pitcher that can assume the 3-4 starter spot. 

1.  Dan Douglas  CF
2.  Justin Jirschele 3B
3.  Cody Koback RF
4.  Eric Fritz SS
5.  Jared Surman LF
6.  Jordan Rennicke DH
7.  Kevin Thomas/Sean Gerber/Dylan McKugh 1B
8.  Steve Consodine C
9.  Travis Tuschen 2B

Pitching Rotation 1. Joel Delorit 2. Scott Williams 3.  Cody Koback 4.  Eric Van Beck/Jack Archie

Middle Relievers Ryan Iverson, Max Middlestaedt  Closer Cam Seidl  I think Seidl could be a shutdown closer with some work.  Obviously Point is going to get some big time recruits so this lineup is solely based on who we have returning and assuming Koback will be used in the field or DH when he's not pitching.  1 thing is for sure this group of seniors was unreal and I don't think you can replace Arch's leadership and Richter's production.  Surman and Koback are going to have to come up huge statistically.  Should be a great battle between Whitewater and Point and hopefully the league will be stronger top to bottom and pitching will improve throughout the WIAC.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 02, 2010, 11:56:13 AM
I have a hard time seeing Coach Bloom take Fritz out the the #2 spot in the line-up.  If he does, I wouldn't be surprised if he moved up to the lead-off spot, instead of down to the clean-up position. 

Point has plenty of kids with experience to turn to regardless of who/what they happen to bring in as far as recruits/JUCO transfers.

One recruit heading to Point that I can give you is Green Lake LHP Connor McElligot.  He was an Honorable Mention All State selection last season going 9-2 with a 1.75 ERA.  This year he is 6-1 with a 2.80 ERA.  He has 74 K's in 40 Innings Pitched.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on June 02, 2010, 12:46:55 PM
Nice to hear Point is getting a left hander.  Hopefully he'll be as good or better as Aaron Dott was at Whitewater.  I agree with you on Fritz because you want to have your best hitter getting as many AB'S as possible but I just don't know who else could be in that important cleanup spot.  I'm banking on Surman to have a huge year next year with no one really looking over his shoulder to steal his spot.  It's going to take Koback some time adjusting to hitting again after not playing this year and probably only pitching for the Rafters this summer. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 02, 2010, 01:57:21 PM
WIAC players on Northwoods League rosters:

Eau Claire Express : Nolan Fadness (UW-O)
Green Bay Bullfrogs: Joel Delorit (UW-SP), Rob Coe (UW-W), Ben Versnik (UW-W), Jeff Donovan (UW-W), Riley Tincher (UW-W)
Madison Mallards: Brett Benash (UW-P)  Limited contract
Waterloo Bucks: Scott Williams (UW-SP)
Wisconsin Woodchucks: Eric Fritz (UW-SP)
Wisconsin Rapids Rafters: Zach Harazin (UW-L), Jay Fanta (UW-L), Mitch Running (UW-L), Justin Jirschele (UW-SP), Cody Koback (UW-SP)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on June 02, 2010, 02:30:36 PM
Wow, One Pointer on the Bullfrog roster with how many Whitewater players?  Hopefully they won't jump him and break his arm.  That's going to be one heck of a team though.  I was hoping Fritz would play for the Rafters.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on June 02, 2010, 03:47:39 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on June 01, 2010, 10:18:25 AM
Here you go sz.....http://www.postcrescent.com/article/20100530/APC0206/5300625

Good luck to him.  It's a very brave thing that he's doing.  I hope everything goes well and he's wearing a Pointer uniform again soon.
Thanks badgerwarhawk. I should really try to figure out how to do this myself(lol)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on June 03, 2010, 10:48:56 AM
Quote from: Suicide Squeeze on June 02, 2010, 02:30:36 PM
Wow, One Pointer on the Bullfrog roster with how many Whitewater players? 

Sounds like a good way to get a better scouting report on him for next year!! In the words of Michael Coreleone, keep your friends close but your "enemies" closer!!  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on June 03, 2010, 10:59:36 AM
Quote from: BoBo on June 03, 2010, 10:48:56 AM
Quote from: Suicide Squeeze on June 02, 2010, 02:30:36 PM
Wow, One Pointer on the Bullfrog roster with how many Whitewater players? 

Sounds like a good way to get a better scouting report on him for next year!! In the words of Michael Coreleone, keep your friends close but your "enemies" closer!!  ;)

So four Warhawks get a scouting report on Delorit... but Delorit gets scouting reports on FOUR Warhawks!  Advantage, Point!  :D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on June 03, 2010, 01:13:29 PM
See that former UW-Oshkosh pitcher Ryan Demmin was Pitcher of the Night in the Northwoods League.  Gave up 3 hits and struck out 12.  Very impressive outing.  Also mentions that he had to sit out the season after transferring and wasn't able to pitch for UM-Mankato as they competed in the D2 World Series.  Congrats to him.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on June 03, 2010, 01:20:38 PM
Something equally impressive was Cody Koback starting last night for the Wisconsin Rapids Rafter in Right Field after not playing in several months and going 2X4. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 03, 2010, 03:08:00 PM
Quote from: szlongball on June 02, 2010, 03:47:39 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on June 01, 2010, 10:18:25 AM
Here you go sz.....http://www.postcrescent.com/article/20100530/APC0206/5300625

Good luck to him.  It's a very brave thing that he's doing.  I hope everything goes well and he's wearing a Pointer uniform again soon.
Thanks badgerwarhawk. I should really try to figure out how to do this myself(lol)

You're welcome. 
It's actually pretty easy.  If you're a PC.  First you find the article you want to post.  Then right click on the address bar at the top.  You'll get a menu that has "cut, copy, paste, delete."  Right click on "copy."    Then go to the post you want to make here and click on it.  You'll get the same menu.  Right click on "paste."  The copied address should appear in your post. 

If you're a Mac I haven't a clue. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: voice on June 03, 2010, 04:24:05 PM
Several payers from WIAC schools have been named All-Americans by D3baseball.com and Rawlings/American Baseball Coaches Association (All-America ) teams. 

http://www.wiacsports.com/baseball/10AllAmerica.html


Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on June 03, 2010, 07:37:44 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on June 03, 2010, 10:59:36 AM
Quote from: BoBo on June 03, 2010, 10:48:56 AM
Quote from: Suicide Squeeze on June 02, 2010, 02:30:36 PM
Wow, One Pointer on the Bullfrog roster with how many Whitewater players? 

Sounds like a good way to get a better scouting report on him for next year!! In the words of Michael Coreleone, keep your friends close but your "enemies" closer!!  ;)

So four Warhawks get a scouting report on Delorit... but Delorit gets scouting reports on FOUR Warhawks!  Advantage, Point!  :D

The way I see it, 3 Warhawks keep Delorit occupied with nonsense so he can't spy on the 4th Warhawk - with a coordinated effort - Advantage Whitewater!!  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on June 03, 2010, 11:29:44 PM
I just got back from watching a Division 3 regional final game between Stevens Point Pacelli and Marathon and all I can say is WOW.  I realize this is high school and left handed pitchers can look really good just throwing heat by hitters but Marathon Pitcher Cody Hanke is an absolute stud.  Tall kid with good mechanics and decent offspeed and only a junior.  I was talking to a guy who said he had several offers on the table but didn't clarify for baseball or basketball.  I noticed UWSP coach Bloom at the game and am guessing he has his eyes set on Hanke and sure hope so.  This guy could really help the Pointers in 2 years especially since their losing Delorit and Williams after next year.  Anyone gets a chance next Tuesday take the time to watch this kid pitch at Pacelli in Sectional play. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on June 04, 2010, 01:57:39 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on June 03, 2010, 03:08:00 PM
Quote from: szlongball on June 02, 2010, 03:47:39 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on June 01, 2010, 10:18:25 AM
Here you go sz.....http://www.postcrescent.com/article/20100530/APC0206/5300625

Good luck to him.  It's a very brave thing that he's doing.  I hope everything goes well and he's wearing a Pointer uniform again soon.
Thanks badgerwarhawk. I should really try to figure out how to do this myself(lol)

You're welcome. 
It's actually pretty easy.  If you're a PC.  First you find the article you want to post.  Then right click on the address bar at the top.  You'll get a menu that has "cut, copy, paste, delete."  Right click on "copy."    Then go to the post you want to make here and click on it.  You'll get the same menu.  Right click on "paste."  The copied address should appear in your post. 

If you're a Mac I haven't a clue. 
Thanks Badgerwarhawk.  I'm a PC so I'll give it a shot. Riley Tincher pitched well Wednesday night as well in the Northwoods League.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on June 06, 2010, 10:12:36 PM
UWW's Ben Versnik is listed on the MLB.com 2010 DraftTracker. He's the only Wisconsin D-III guy listed.  Here's the players listed from Wisconsin schools or with Wisconsin as their home state.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/draft/y2010/drafttracker.jsp?p=0&s=30&sc=last_name&so=ascending&st=number&ft=ST&fv=WI

Of course this doesn't mean others won't be drafted.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on June 06, 2010, 11:38:59 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on June 06, 2010, 10:12:36 PM
UWW's Ben Versnik is listed on the MLB.com 2010 DraftTracker. He's the only Wisconsin D-III guy listed.  Here's the players listed from Wisconsin schools or with Wisconsin as their home state.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/draft/y2010/drafttracker.jsp?p=0&s=30&sc=last_name&so=ascending&st=number&ft=ST&fv=WI

Of course this doesn't mean others won't be drafted.

According to this article HERE (http://www.jsonline.com/sports/brewers/95692919.html) on JSOnline, Baseball America magazine projects Grafton High School right-hander Conor Fisk as the top player in the state and expects him to go around the 20th round. Of the top seven players rated by BA, three come from UW-Whitewater: right-handers Ben Versnik and Jason Hooper and first baseman Jeff Donovan.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on June 08, 2010, 01:32:08 PM
I've been MIA on the board for a while, so as a welcome back present I figured I'd stir it up a little bit...

How come nobody made any excuses this year for why Point made it through again?  Certainly Witter field had to play some part in the magic, despite the fact they didn't play there.  All the past years point only made it through because they got to play at wiiter field with short fences, which apparently moved back for the other teams, otherwise that argument is completely unfounded.  I'm really not trying to start anything here, but I found it interesting that no comments were made this year compared to several comments in all the past years.  it was always something other than the team itself that gave point an unfair advantage...interesting then that they beat WW in WW to go to the series...just an observation  :)

I wish the best of luck to all WIAC'ers playing the northwoods...show those big boys what we're made of!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on June 08, 2010, 01:51:22 PM
Quote from: Dagger on June 08, 2010, 01:32:08 PM
I've been MIA on the board for a while, so as a welcome back present I figured I'd stir it up a little bit...

How come nobody made any excuses this year for why Point made it through again?  Certainly Witter field had to play some part in the magic, despite the fact they didn't play there.  All the past years point only made it through because they got to play at wiiter field with short fences, which apparently moved back for the other teams, otherwise that argument is completely unfounded.  I'm really not trying to start anything here, but I found it interesting that no comments were made this year compared to several comments in all the past years.  it was always something other than the team itself that gave point an unfair advantage...interesting then that they beat WW in WW to go to the series...just an observation  :)

I wish the best of luck to all WIAC'ers playing the northwoods...show those big boys what we're made of!

Well they didn't win the WIAC Tournament, did they?
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Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 08, 2010, 04:48:30 PM
Dagger, try to keep up.  It's been two years since the tournament was played at Witter Field.
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Post by: pickleshiner on June 08, 2010, 10:27:57 PM
Can someone please select Jeff Donovan so Point doesn't have to pitch to him next year.  How has this guy not been selected yet?  On a side note, I know Koback didn't play this year but I'm kind of shocked he hasn't been drafted.
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Post by: szlongball on June 08, 2010, 11:01:03 PM
Maybe they saw how he pitched in the Northwoods league the other night.  He is sporting a 13.50 ERA.  And Versnik has an era over 10.00 in the Northwoods league.  Seriously, you need to lay off the drugs.  Koback was not that impressive his freshman year and you have to wait until after your JUNIOR year to be drafted.
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Post by: szlongball on June 08, 2010, 11:05:25 PM
Badgerwarhawk  got a question for you.  Any idea if Kyle Lee and Jason Hooper are hurt.  Lee pitched for the Clyman Canners in the Rock River League last year and is on the roster this year.  Jason Hooper was supposed to be on the team as well.  Haven't seen either one of them yet and Whitewater's season has been over for a couple of weeks.
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Post by: pickleshiner on June 09, 2010, 07:49:27 AM
To Koback's credit he hadn't pitched in quite some time with an arm injury.  I wasn't sure on the having to be a junior thing as someone at the World Series had told me that wasn't true any more.  To be honest with you I was thinking he may get drafted as an outfield before pitcher.  I know for certain when he was in high school a few scouts were at games looking at him as a potential OF.  Anyhow, I'm serious about Donovan why hasn't he been selected?  There is a ton of potential there with his athleticism and power.  Put him in the minors a few years and he could be a stud even as an OF.
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Post by: CrashDavisD3 on June 09, 2010, 08:50:17 AM
Quote from: Suicide Squeeze on June 08, 2010, 10:27:57 PM
Can someone please select Jeff Donovan so Point doesn't have to pitch to him next year.  How has this guy not been selected yet?  On a side note, I know Koback didn't play this year but I'm kind of shocked he hasn't been drafted.

So few are drafted from DIII and so few make it beyond a few years in the minors. Last few years the DIII players of the year one, was drafted in last round and one went undrafted.

Good luck to those that get to play professional baseball drafted or not. Enjoy playing baseball another day past DIII days. So few get that chance... ;D
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Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 09, 2010, 09:36:12 AM
Quote from: szlongball on June 08, 2010, 11:05:25 PM
Badgerwarhawk  got a question for you.  Any idea if Kyle Lee and Jason Hooper are hurt.  Lee pitched for the Clyman Canners in the Rock River League last year and is on the roster this year.  Jason Hooper was supposed to be on the team as well.  Haven't seen either one of them yet and Whitewater's season has been over for a couple of weeks.

Neither appeared injured at the end of the season however I don't know if anything has happened to either of them since then.

 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on June 09, 2010, 12:27:31 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on June 09, 2010, 09:36:12 AM
Quote from: szlongball on June 08, 2010, 11:05:25 PM
Badgerwarhawk  got a question for you.  Any idea if Kyle Lee and Jason Hooper are hurt.  Lee pitched for the Clyman Canners in the Rock River League last year and is on the roster this year.  Jason Hooper was supposed to be on the team as well.  Haven't seen either one of them yet and Whitewater's season has been over for a couple of weeks.

Neither appeared injured at the end of the season however I don't know if anything has happened to either of them since then.
Thanks. We have 3 games this week and are missing about 8 guys. Only pitcher we have is Jeff and he is supposed to pitch on Sunday(ran his record to 28-0 after last Sunday).
 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on June 09, 2010, 02:04:01 PM
Ben Versnik RHP from UW-Whitewater just got drafted by Seattle. Pick no 1152 in Round #38.
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Post by: UWP SID on June 09, 2010, 04:22:19 PM
Nice update with encouraging news about a former WIACer

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/nationalsjournal/2010/06/jordan_zimmermann_on_pace_to_r.html

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Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 10, 2010, 10:14:17 AM
Thanks, SID
I've been wondering what his status was.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on June 15, 2010, 09:02:32 PM
6     Koback, Cody     9     31     3     14     1     0     0     1     3     2     3     0     0     1     2     0     0     .528     .484     .452

Koback is hitting .452 right now in the Northwoods.  Donovan, Jirschele, and Fritz are all below .275.  That is unbelievably impressive seeing he didn't play this year at Point.  What does .452 with a wood bat translate to in the WIAC with aluminum?  I'm guessing .700.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: UWP SID on June 17, 2010, 08:34:30 PM
Quote from: Suicide Squeeze on June 15, 2010, 09:02:32 PM
6     Koback, Cody     9     31     3     14     1     0     0     1     3     2     3     0     0     1     2     0     0     .528     .484     .452

Koback is hitting .452 right now in the Northwoods.  Donovan, Jirschele, and Fritz are all below .275.  That is unbelievably impressive seeing he didn't play this year at Point.  What does .452 with a wood bat translate to in the WIAC with aluminum?  I'm guessing .700.

Just to get all the WIACers in here ... UW-Platteville's Brett Benesh has a .286 average currently for the Madison Mallards.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 21, 2010, 12:30:48 PM
Benesh started out on a short term contract.  Was it renewed? 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: UWP SID on June 22, 2010, 10:03:29 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on June 21, 2010, 12:30:48 PM
Benesh started out on a short term contract.  Was it renewed? 

He does not appear on the Mallards roster anymore. Not a bad audition, especially learning left field, as he appears on the boxscores.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on June 30, 2010, 01:41:05 AM
Former UWSP Closer, Jeff Zielke fans 18 in a complete game tonight.  Allowed 1 BB, 6 hits and completes 5 assists. Clyman Canners win 2-0 over Ixonia Snappers in Tri County Night League. Zielke is now 30-0 with a no-decision last week(Left with 7-2 led after 8 innings).  Hasn't lost since 2007.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on June 30, 2010, 11:34:59 PM
I wish somehow he could've snuck into the game at Appleton this year to solidify Point's bullpen.  Cheat to win baby.  I just seen a kid throwing for Plover BABA and I'm hoping he's playing at Point this year.  His name was Drew Tomacek(spelling) and he brings some heat. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanBystander on July 06, 2010, 12:20:53 PM
Former UW-Oshkosh Titan LHP Ryan Demmin was signed by the Washington Nationals and assigned to the Vermont Lake Monsters Class "A" team.   

After Leaving UW-O with 1 year remaining, he transferred to Mankato where he sat out this past season.  He's torn up the Northwoods League the last 3 seasons being named to their all-star roster in 2009.

Seems like he's made all the right choices so far.  Getting involved with Mankato (Moondogs & University) was obviously the best thing that could have happened to him.  Good for him.  The Titans sure could have used him this past season.     


http://vermont.lakemonsters.milb.com/index.jsp?sid=t462
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on July 07, 2010, 01:27:53 AM
Congrats to Ryan Demmin!!! That's two former WIAC players for the Nationals!!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on July 07, 2010, 08:23:31 AM
Quote from: szlongball on July 07, 2010, 01:27:53 AM
Congrats to Ryan Demmin!!! That's two former WIAC players for the Nationals!!!!
Also makes four former D3'ers at Vermont Lake:
Ryno
Lynchburg's Ronnie Labrie
Concordia's (IL) Jack Walker
Alvernia's Shane Zellers

The Nats have eight total D3'ers in their system. JZ, Erik Arneson, Cole Kimball and Evan Bronson are the others.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on July 14, 2010, 11:05:30 AM
Cody Koback and Riley Tincher named to Northwoods League South Division all star team

http://www.northwoodsleague.com/Story.aspx?ArticleId=681
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on July 16, 2010, 09:53:08 AM
The World Series of Poker (http://espn.go.com/sports/fantasy/blog/_/name/poker) in Las Vegas heads into Day 7 of the main event with only 78 players remaining, including Eric Baldwin. He was responsible for eliminating the final woman in the field on Day 6. Day 7 will cut the field down to 27 -- those eliminated earn a cool $255,242. The top prize for winning the WSOP is $8.9 million!!
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Post by: badgerwarhawk on July 16, 2010, 04:42:55 PM
Cool, good luck Baldy.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on July 17, 2010, 12:15:10 AM
Quote from: BoBo on July 16, 2010, 09:53:08 AM
The World Series of Poker (http://espn.go.com/sports/fantasy/blog/_/name/poker) in Las Vegas heads into Day 7 of the main event with only 78 players remaining, including Eric Baldwin. He was responsible for eliminating the final woman in the field on Day 6. Day 7 will cut the field down to 27 -- those eliminated earn a cool $255,242. The top prize for winning the WSOP is $8.9 million!!
Finished in 58th place. Not too shabby.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on July 20, 2010, 03:05:33 PM
OSHKOSH – What the future holds for Mitch Beau has yet to be determined, but Saturday, the St. Mary's Springs graduate shined among the state's best at the Wisconsin Baseball Coaches Association All-Star Classic at E.J. Schneider Field.

"I was seeing the ball well and taking good swings," said Beau of his weekend in Oshkosh. "When I got good pitches I was trying to get good swings and hit it.

"I had a good weekend and the guys were a lot of fun."

Beau went 3 for 5 in the three games of the tournament with a two-run home run and four runs scored, while also earning two walks. On the mound, he earned the win in the North team's second game, pitching three scoreless innings, giving up just two hits and issuing one walk while striking out three.

"I was actually a little nervous facing Division 1 pitchers, playing in a Division 3 conference all year, but I was seeing the ball well," said Beau. "It gives me a lot of confidence for the rest of the summer to do what I did this weekend. I know I can hit good pitching now.

The 6-foot-1, 200-pounder will be attending UW-Stevens Point in the fall and plans to play both football and baseball for the Pointers. He was the runner-up for Wisconsin Flyway Conference baseball player of the year and a two-time first-team all-conference quarterback.

"It's going to be tough to play both, but I'm going to give it a shot and see what happens from there," said Beau.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on July 21, 2010, 11:40:12 AM
The North ended the South's three game winning streak in the Northwood League's All Star game 7-5 last night.  Cody Kobac went 1 for 2 from the plate with a triple, hit by pitch and strikeout.  Nolan Fadness was 0 for 1 and was thrown out at the plate attempting to score after a flyout.  He did have four put outs playing left field including one, a driving catch, that was pretty neat.  Riley Tincher pitched .2 innings and recorded a strikeout. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on July 26, 2010, 02:03:59 PM
Some interesting news I have come across over the course of the summer....

1B Luke Behm will be transferring from Carthage to Stevens Point.  Behm saw limited action for the Red Men last season, but was a two time 1st Team All Eastern Valley selection while at Waupaca.

IF Drew Eichstaedt will be transferring to Whitewater for the 2011 season.  He will have two years of eligibility remaining, and will be able to play immediately due to a waiver that was filed.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on July 28, 2010, 07:32:21 AM
So the already loaded Whitewater lineup will get another great player?  I really thought he would go to Point.  Should be two star studded lineups once again this year with some great players not even making the team for both schools.  I know Point is loaded with incoming freshman and a few transfers.  They really are going to need a few pitchers to step up if they want their ultimate goal of winning the NCAA championship.  Doesn't help that Koback is not pitching at all this summer for the Rafters.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on July 28, 2010, 04:44:03 PM
Quote from: OshDude on July 17, 2010, 12:15:10 AM
Quote from: BoBo on July 16, 2010, 09:53:08 AM
The World Series of Poker (http://espn.go.com/sports/fantasy/blog/_/name/poker) in Las Vegas heads into Day 7 of the main event with only 78 players remaining, including Eric Baldwin. He was responsible for eliminating the final woman in the field on Day 6. Day 7 will cut the field down to 27 -- those eliminated earn a cool $255,242. The top prize for winning the WSOP is $8.9 million!!
Finished in 58th place. Not too shabby.
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Quote from: OshDude on July 17, 2010, 12:15:10 AM
Quote from: BoBo on July 16, 2010, 09:53:08 AM
The World Series of Poker (http://espn.go.com/sports/fantasy/blog/_/name/poker) in Las Vegas heads into Day 7 of the main event with only 78 players remaining, including Eric Baldwin. He was responsible for eliminating the final woman in the field on Day 6. Day 7 will cut the field down to 27 -- those eliminated earn a cool $255,242. The top prize for winning the WSOP is $8.9 million!!

Another former D3 Baseball Player Brian Brubaker (Chapman '06) finished 54th in this years World Series of Poker. Brian has been playing since 2007 and also has played in the D3 Baseball World Series while at Chapman
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on July 30, 2010, 07:17:19 AM
QuoteAnother former D3 Baseball Player Brian Brubaker (Chapman '06) finished 54th in this years World Series of Poker. Brian has been playing since 2007 and also has played in the D3 Baseball World Series while at Chapman

Congrats to Mr. Brubaker, also...if I wasn't so old with a family to think about, I might want to give this professional poker thing a whirl, too -- sounds like a blast!!  ;) 

BTW, does Chapman's baseball complex need any upgrades, too?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: brewcrew2008 on July 30, 2010, 07:56:38 PM
Getting back to what Suicide said about the pitching staff for the Pointers, 3 more pitchers got added to Northwoods league teams recently with Eric Van Beck being added to the Green Bay Bullfrogs, Jack Archie being added to the Wisconsin Rapids Rafters and Ryan Iverson being added to the Wisconsin Woodchucks. Now in no way am I saying that the Pointers staff is loaded because they have so many pitchers playing in the league but it certainly will help getting to work with their respective teams and maybe gaining confidence for next season. Also as he mentioned getting Cody Koback back would be a huge gain for the rotation but for the time being nice to see the Pointers represented so well in the Northwoods League
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Post by: cubs on July 31, 2010, 12:28:38 PM
Quote from: szlongball on June 30, 2010, 01:41:05 AM
Former UWSP Closer, Jeff Zielke fans 18 in a complete game tonight.  Allowed 1 BB, 6 hits and completes 5 assists. Clyman Canners win 2-0 over Ixonia Snappers in Tri County Night League. Zielke is now 30-0 with a no-decision last week(Left with 7-2 led after 8 innings).  Hasn't lost since 2007.
Well the impressive streak has come to an end.....  Zielke's Clyman Canners lost 1-0 in the NBC semifinals last night to the Menasha Macs.  The game was completed in a swift one hour and twelve minutes.  A solo HR in the third inning provided the only scoring of the game.
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Post by: badgerwarhawk on August 01, 2010, 12:57:43 PM
Pardon my ignorance but who is Drew Eichstaedt?  What position does he play and where has he been playing previously? 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on August 01, 2010, 11:22:47 PM
Quote from: cubs on July 31, 2010, 12:28:38 PM
Quote from: szlongball on June 30, 2010, 01:41:05 AM
Former UWSP Closer, Jeff Zielke fans 18 in a complete game tonight.  Allowed 1 BB, 6 hits and completes 5 assists. Clyman Canners win 2-0 over Ixonia Snappers in Tri County Night League. Zielke is now 30-0 with a no-decision last week(Left with 7-2 led after 8 innings).  Hasn't lost since 2007.
Well the impressive streak has come to an end.....  Zielke's Clyman Canners lost 1-0 in the NBC semifinals last night to the Menasha Macs.  The game was completed in a swift one hour and twelve minutes.  A solo HR in the third inning provided the only scoring of the game.
Were you at the game? Still pretty impressive run. Clyman has had a problem getting hits lately. Didn't expect them to only have 1 hit in the game. Took longer to get to Menasha than it took to play the game.
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Post by: pickleshiner on August 02, 2010, 12:04:58 AM
Drew Eichstadt started as a freshman at Oshkosh and was a very solid infielder and hitter.  He played about 1/2 or less of the season at Oshkosh this past season before leaving the team.  He will be a key contributor for Whitewater and  I would expect him to be in the starting lineup and batting in the top 6 in the lineup.  Huge addition for Whitewater.  Anyone know about Seth McMullen and why he was able to play legion this summer for Wausau?  I thought he played D2 in Minnesota this past season and would have been inelibible to play legion.  Did the rules change or did he not play this past spring?  I wish he were a Pointer.  Every time I see how great Jeff Zielke pitched it just gets me wondering why more and more as to why he wasn't a full time starter for Point.  He was a great closer but I just feel like he may have been shorted a little not getting the chance to be in the rotation.  I will never forget the St. Thomas game 2  years ago he was lights out other than 1 pitch.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on August 02, 2010, 09:12:25 AM
Thanks SS.  I checked UW-O's website and with three infield positions open he looks like a solid addition who can help the team from the get go.

 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanBystander on August 02, 2010, 09:15:26 AM
Just to be clear BW, Eichstadt has LEFT UW-O and is transferring to UW-W this fall.  At least, that's the scuttlebutt on this site. 

He played a good amount his Freshman year & went through the Non-conference schedule this past season with Oshkosh, then suddenly quit the team. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on August 02, 2010, 12:29:16 PM
I understood that, Titan.  We have three infield spots open, 2nd (Kuhlman) SS (Kenseth) and 3rd (Rechlitz).  I haven't heard anything on this end but cubs seems to be tuned in.  Of course things could change between now and then so we'll just have to wait and see.  If it does happen it looks like he could contribute.  

I'm curious what the basis of the waiver he was granted is. Ordinarily having played two seasons for the Titans and transfering to another WIAC program would mean he'd have to sit out a year.  Though he could still have two of eligibility remaining.

Jake Peterson (Eau Claire Memorial) LHP/IB has indicated that he will join the WARHAWK baseball program.
http://www.wissports.net/sports/baseball/blog/message.aspx?f=143&id=1168332

WARHAWKS
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanBystander on August 02, 2010, 01:27:22 PM
I mis-interpreted your last post so good to clear everything up.  It's tough to stay up to speed on the soap opera that has become UW-O baseball.  Given all the good players that are showing up at Point & UW-W, I sure hope Lechnir & Co. land some solid guys themselves.  It's good for the league to have things be more than just a two horse race. 

I would also like to hear about the waiver.  I certainly wouldn't blame any coach in the WIAC for holding a kid to the rules & making them sit a year for a intra-WIAC transfer after year 1.  Some may say it's an onerous thing, but I say a rule is a rule. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on August 02, 2010, 02:03:06 PM
Quote from: Suicide Squeeze on August 02, 2010, 12:04:58 AM
Drew Eichstadt started as a freshman at Oshkosh and was a very solid infielder and hitter.  He played about 1/2 or less of the season at Oshkosh this past season before leaving the team.  He will be a key contributor for Whitewater and  I would expect him to be in the starting lineup and batting in the top 6 in the lineup.  Huge addition for Whitewater.  Anyone know about Seth McMullen and why he was able to play legion this summer for Wausau?  I thought he played D2 in Minnesota this past season and would have been inelibible to play legion.  Did the rules change or did he not play this past spring?  I wish he were a Pointer.  Every time I see how great Jeff Zielke pitched it just gets me wondering why more and more as to why he wasn't a full time starter for Point.  He was a great closer but I just feel like he may have been shorted a little not getting the chance to be in the rotation.  I will never forget the St. Thomas game 2  years ago he was lights out other than 1 pitch.
You know we couldn't figure it out nor some of the other parents. The game against Menasha on Friday reminded me of that regional game against St. Thomas.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on August 03, 2010, 02:40:02 PM
Legion baseball rules allow players who don't turn 19 before January 1 to play.  Depending on when their birthday is many college freshman are still eligible for Legion baseball the summer after their freshman year.  Whether they played for a college team or not is not relevant.

This was a change by the National Legion office about 5-6 years ago and it was somewhat controversial. They moved the cutoff date from June 1 to January 1.  Some Legion teams still refuse to permit college freshman but many have them.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on August 04, 2010, 09:32:28 PM
I personally HATE the rule..... 

I don't mind the change from June 1st, as I had a buddy who was unable to play his senior year because of this.  I would think September 1st would be a much better date, as it would likely make all seniors eligible to play, and there would only be an occasional college freshman playing instead of half a class like it is now.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on August 04, 2010, 09:38:21 PM
Quote from: TitanBystander on August 02, 2010, 01:27:22 PM
I mis-interpreted your last post so good to clear everything up.  It's tough to stay up to speed on the soap opera that has become UW-O baseball.  Given all the good players that are showing up at Point & UW-W, I sure hope Lechnir & Co. land some solid guys themselves.  It's good for the league to have things be more than just a two horse race. 

I would also like to hear about the waiver.  I certainly wouldn't blame any coach in the WIAC for holding a kid to the rules & making them sit a year for a intra-WIAC transfer after year 1.  Some may say it's an onerous thing, but I say a rule is a rule.
1.  That's what happens when you don't have a son playing anymore that shared everything with you for four years.

2.  I'm not sure on the exact details of the waiver, but after hearing about how the Eichstaedt family has decided to sue a pitcher after getting hit by a pitch this summer, (they felt it was intentional) I'm sure they were able to find a legal loophole to in order for Drew to play immediately.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on August 07, 2010, 11:45:21 PM
Quote from: cubs on July 26, 2010, 02:03:59 PM
Some interesting news I have come across over the course of the summer....

1B Luke Behm will be transferring from Carthage to Stevens Point.  Behm saw limited action for the Red Men last season, but was a two time 1st Team All Eastern Valley selection while at Waupaca.



I think the emergence of Carthage 1B Joey Aiello (Soph in 2010)this year really put the writing on the wall for Behm. He was not going to see the field until his senior season at Carthage.

By the way, being an all-conference selection at Waupaca is nice, but the Eastern Valley Conference is not a powerhouse.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on August 08, 2010, 08:53:54 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on August 07, 2010, 11:45:21 PM
By the way, being an all-conference selection at Waupaca is nice, but the Eastern Valley Conference is not a powerhouse.
While the Eastern Valley may not be a State powerhouse compared to the FVA, Big 8, Badger and some other D1 conferences, I would argue that it is near the top of Division 2 conferences in the state of Wisconsin, along with the Bay.  Year in and year out the Eastern Valley Conference has sent multiple teams to Sectionals, and has also had teams from the conference at State four times since 2000, including one State Champion. 

Teams from this conference have also seen success at the State level in Legion, winning the Class A title now for four straight seasons.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ballfan55 on August 23, 2010, 05:17:53 PM
Word is that UW-Oshkosh has a DI pitcher transferring in from a Big 10 school.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on August 23, 2010, 10:22:37 PM
Quote from: ballfan55 on August 23, 2010, 05:17:53 PM
Word is that UW-Oshkosh has a DI pitcher transferring in from a Big 10 school.
Have a name?  I have a feeling I know who it is, but am not positive.  If it's the guy I'm thinking of, he pitched in the Northwoods League this summer.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ballfan55 on August 24, 2010, 01:43:30 PM
No, that would be his cousin...this pitched in the Cape Cod league.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on September 14, 2010, 08:57:18 AM
I'm surprised it hasn't been mentioned on here earlier, but reports are that Point's Cody Koback has decided to return to Point after transferring to MATC.  Don't have a lot of details, but I guess he returned early enough to enroll in the Fall Semester.  Wonder what made him transfer in the first place?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on September 18, 2010, 10:16:01 PM
My heart stopped for 5 seconds after I read this.  He better be at Point this Spring and pitching.  I heard last week Williams arm was bothering him this summer.  Is he going to be ready to go this spring?  To be honest I had heard some D1 schools wanted Koback after his performance this summer but hadn't heard if he was leaving.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on September 22, 2010, 08:51:49 AM
Quote from: Suicide Squeeze on September 18, 2010, 10:16:01 PM
My heart stopped for 5 seconds after I read this.  He better be at Point this Spring and pitching.  I heard last week Williams arm was bothering him this summer.  Is he going to be ready to go this spring?  To be honest I had heard some D1 schools wanted Koback after his performance this summer but hadn't heard if he was leaving.
Well it will probably stop for more than five seconds now.....  I have a pretty good source that has said as of last week, Koback is no longer part of the Pointer baseball team. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on September 22, 2010, 10:06:27 PM
That is a devastating blow to the Pointer program.  I get ripped for this but I still honestly feel Point would've finished top 3 with Koback last year at the World Series.  He's the type of player you just can't replace.  Great speed, good hitter, and was coming into his own as a pitcher.  I could easily find this info out but just don't feel like it because I'm too bumbed out about it and have a feeling it's 100% true.  Looks like Whitewater's path has been made easier.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on September 23, 2010, 08:42:13 PM
He's still enrolled at UWSP this fall.  If he's leaving I'm assuming it's at semester.  I don't see any way he would be going to school here and not playing baseball.  It would suck if he left but I guess being a Koback fan I can't blame him as long as it's to a D1 school.  Can't blame a kid leaving and getting his school paid for if that's what happened.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on September 23, 2010, 09:13:21 PM
Quote from: Suicide Squeeze on September 23, 2010, 08:42:13 PM
He's still enrolled at UWSP this fall.  If he's leaving I'm assuming it's at semester.  I don't see any way he would be going to school here and not playing baseball.  It would suck if he left but I guess being a Koback fan I can't blame him as long as it's to a D1 school.  Can't blame a kid leaving and getting his school paid for if that's what happened.
I never said he wasn't enrolled at school.....  In fact I said he transferred in time to enroll for the fall semester.  However I stand by my statement that he is no longer on the Pointer baseball team, and it has nothing to do with looking to transfer elsewhere this time.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on September 24, 2010, 11:05:19 AM
yeah definitely not on the team...big loss for point, but in a case like that if the best player is going to be a problem because of attitude it's best to just part ways and move forward without him...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on September 24, 2010, 12:40:57 PM
Well that sucks but Point will still be fine with Fritz, Jirschele, Delorit, and hopefully Williams.  Anyone have any idea how Williams arm is doing? 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on September 24, 2010, 01:56:03 PM
Guess you needed to here it from a former Pointer to believe it?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on September 24, 2010, 04:03:06 PM
No I believed you I just was trying to find out the exact reason why he's not going to be there.  Is there any chance he'll still play for Point or is the door shut?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on September 27, 2010, 08:38:32 AM
Quote from: Suicide Squeeze on September 24, 2010, 04:03:06 PM
No I believed you I just was trying to find out the exact reason why he's not going to be there.  Is there any chance he'll still play for Point or is the door shut?
I would be VERY surprised if he put on a Pointer uniform this spring.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on September 27, 2010, 10:47:32 PM
Your definitely right Cubs.  I spoke to as credible a source as you'll ever find and was told there's no chance.  Apparently he went to MATC for 1 week so he would get more exposure and got home sick and came back.  Personally I don't think MATC is better than Point and more importantly I think he opened plenty of eyes playing for the Rafters this summer.  With Point's success and the amount of scouts they draw to games he really didn't need to leave anywhere.  I can't imagine any of his former teammates could be too happy about that decision and I would doubt they would want him on the team but who knows.  Also heard Coach Bloom won't even speak to him.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on September 28, 2010, 08:53:00 AM
Quote from: Suicide Squeeze on September 27, 2010, 10:47:32 PM
Your definitely right Cubs.  I spoke to as credible a source as you'll ever find and was told there's no chance.  Apparently he went to MATC for 1 week so he would get more exposure and got home sick and came back.  Personally I don't think MATC is better than Point and more importantly I think he opened plenty of eyes playing for the Rafters this summer.  With Point's success and the amount of scouts they draw to games he really didn't need to leave anywhere.  I can't imagine any of his former teammates could be too happy about that decision and I would doubt they would want him on the team but who knows.  Also heard Coach Bloom won't even speak to him.
It is my understanding that his choice to transfer to MATC has nothing to do with him no longer being part of the team.  He was welcomed back when he changed his mind, however there were other "issues" that caused this to happen.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on September 28, 2010, 09:34:59 AM
No matter how or what happened it's a devastating blow to the Pointer baseball team especially when your trying to replace great players like Arch, Richter, Spurney, and Lorenz.  I was expecting him to replace Lorenz as the #3 in the rotation and be the cleanup hitter. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on September 28, 2010, 10:10:38 AM
Going to a MATC allows him to enter the draft a year earlier (if that is his motivation). It also allows him to transfer to another school in the WIAC without sitting out a year of baseball. It makes baseball sense if that's the case.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ballfan55 on September 28, 2010, 10:18:33 AM
He took a greyshirt or whatever you want to call it., but he is entering his Junior year of college.  Doesn't that make him draft eligible?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on September 28, 2010, 10:26:44 AM
I wasn't planning on following WIAC baseball that closely this year to begin with and will never attend another WIAC baseball game again if Koback transfers to another WIAC school. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on September 28, 2010, 10:58:57 AM
Quote from: ballfan55 on September 28, 2010, 10:18:33 AM
He took a greyshirt or whatever you want to call it., but he is entering his Junior year of college.  Doesn't that make him draft eligible?
You can't take a grey-shirt when you practice with the team all season, much less play in eight games as was the case for Koback last season.  I'm sure he applied for a medical hardship and more than likely received it.

As far as being draft eligible, that would be correct.  He would be eligible for the 2011 MLB Amateur draft, since this is his thrid college season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on September 28, 2010, 12:32:54 PM
Quote from: Suicide Squeeze on September 28, 2010, 10:26:44 AM
I wasn't planning on following WIAC baseball that closely this year to begin with and will never attend another WIAC baseball game again if Koback transfers to another WIAC school.  

Too funny.

You'd let a single player stop you from EVER attending another WIAC baseball game again.  No offense intended but it that's the case you couldn't have much of a fan/supporter to begin with.   I don't think the Pointers will miss you much.  

Honestlymaybe I'm old school but that's simply absurd.  
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on September 28, 2010, 02:14:04 PM
Can you imagine finding out Tincher wasn't playing for Whitewater this year after having your hopes up thinking your team may win the world series and than hear on top of it he could transfer to Point or Oshkosh.  I'm just a little sick to my stomach right now. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on September 28, 2010, 02:52:38 PM
Quote from: Suicide Squeeze on September 28, 2010, 10:26:44 AM
I wasn't planning on following WIAC baseball that closely this year to begin with and will never attend another WIAC baseball game again if Koback transfers to another WIAC school. 

You have just revealed yourself as either Cody Koback's parent or girlfriend.  I'm guessing girlfriend, since you're clearly in love with him.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on September 28, 2010, 04:31:03 PM
It's not every day a D1 possibly professional baseball player choose to go to a D3 school.  In reality, Koback is not even my favorite player even though it may seem that way.  I'm actually a huge Justin Jirschele fan being from the Clintonville area.  Being a huge Pointer fan it's a little disappointing to know we had him and now he's no longer a part of the program and basically played 1 year(freshman year) and he's done.  It just sucks having to wonder what could've been.  Say what you want but 1 player can make a huge difference in determining conference/regional/world series champion.  For example. Doug Coe a few years back blew his knee out.  That Point team more than likely wins the title with Coe.  I'm certainly not saying Point won't be great but they'll once again be a player or 2 short of being able to win the title. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on September 28, 2010, 05:55:50 PM
update for suicide squeeze's question on williams...

He pitched in the fall scrimmage and looked pretty solid, he should be fine this year as the ace for point.  Iverson will likely slot into the 3 or 4 spot in the rotation and looked pretty impressive on the mound.  He hit 90 on the gun a week or two ago, which is pretty impressive given his size!  All in all they look to be in pretty good shape this year both defensively and offensively and on the mound.  They should be very competitive again this season with a legit shot at taking home the regular season title.  it appears at this point that fritz may potentially have an expanded role on the mound this year, either working wednesday games as a starter when he can get three days to rest before weekend series, or as a reliever. 

As for my two cents on the koback situation...there's no chance in hell he ever puts on a uniform for point again, and if he even had the nerve to want to put it back on I would tell him to get lost!  I hope he does transfer to another wiac school so he feel firsthand the agony of losing to his old team on a yearly basis.  If you can't tell by now I have lost every ounce of respect for the kid.  There's certain ways to go about doing things...if you want to advance your career by transferring to larger school then great, everyone would have been happy for him...but when you do what he did and how he did it, you just lost your right for anyone to give a damn about you.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on September 28, 2010, 06:04:56 PM
Thanks for the update on Williams.  I wish someone would just post exactly what Koback did or said so I could move on.  I realize he transferred and came back but than what happened?  Cubs posted he was welcomed with open arms.  Maybe if I know the truth I'll be able to get over it and realize he's not good for the program.  I was impressed with Iverson last year and was amazed with his velocity for his size.  I'm assuming Van Beck will be the #4 again.  Any idea on closers for Point?  What did they bring in for transfers?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on September 28, 2010, 06:53:03 PM
Quote from: Suicide Squeeze on September 28, 2010, 06:04:56 PM
Thanks for the update on Williams.  I wish someone would just post exactly what Koback did or said so I could move on.  I realize he transferred and came back but than what happened?  Cubs posted he was welcomed with open arms.  Maybe if I know the truth I'll be able to get over it and realize he's not good for the program.  I was impressed with Iverson last year and was amazed with his velocity for his size.  I'm assuming Van Beck will be the #4 again.  Any idea on closers for Point?  What did they bring in for transfers?

Girlfriend. Definitely.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on September 28, 2010, 07:27:32 PM
Why can't someone just grow a pair and write exactly what happened?  This board is not private.  Hard to judge a situation when you have 30% of the facts.  Is it a situation where Point is going to turn into Oshkosh and everyone all of a sudden leaves?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on September 28, 2010, 08:09:21 PM
Projected Pointer Lineup 2011
1.  Eric Fritz  SS
2.  Brent Kakwitch 2B
3.  Cody Koback RF
4.  Justin Jirschele 3B
5.  Rob Coe C
6.  Jared Surman LF
7.  Jordan Rennicke C
8.  Kevin Thomas 1B
9.  Dan Douglas CF

DH Sean Gerber/Travis Tuschen

Pitching Staff
1.  Scott Williams 2. Joel Delorit  3.  Cody Koback  4.  Ryan Iverson

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on September 28, 2010, 08:17:52 PM
Quote from: Suicide Squeeze on September 28, 2010, 02:14:04 PM
Can you imagine finding out Tincher wasn't playing for Whitewater this year after having your hopes up thinking your team may win the world series and than hear on top of it he could transfer to Point or Oshkosh.  I'm just a little sick to my stomach right now.  

Yes I can imagine it.  Of course I would be disappointed.  But it wouldn't make me write off the team.  You play with who you have and you support your team regardless of who they have, whether they might have been better than they are or whether some kid decided he wanted to play somewhere else.  We've had it happen in WHITEWATER, right Dagger.  Josh Shere was another.  

If someone wants to play for another school, fine.  I sure that they have their reasons.  You simply move on.  

But keep in mind there is always the Findlandia bandwagon you can jump on. ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on September 28, 2010, 08:31:19 PM
I knew you wouldn't let me forget Finladia.  I'll always be a Pointer fan seeing I'm alum and live and work here and am active in the community.  It's just frustrating seeing all these great players leave and not hearing exact reasons why.  If a guy is an asshole and thinks he's better than the team than I wish that would just be stated on here because I have no tolerance for pre-madonna's.  You have to be pumped about Booker Stanley being on the football team!  Nothing like having 3 of the top 5 running backs in D3 on 1 team.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on September 28, 2010, 09:02:53 PM
Yes, it's nice having Booker.  He still has it going.  The really good thing about it is that we can always put a fresh set of legs in the game with no drop off one from the other.  All three are feature running backs.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on September 28, 2010, 09:32:36 PM
They may not get a game in the WIAC within 28 points.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on September 28, 2010, 10:26:15 PM
Quote from: Rusty Fishhook on September 28, 2010, 06:04:56 PM
Thanks for the update on Williams.  I wish someone would just post exactly what Koback did or said so I could move on.  I realize he transferred and came back but than what happened?  Cubs posted he was welcomed with open arms.  Maybe if I know the truth I'll be able to get over it and realize he's not good for the program. 
There are just some things that happen behind closed doors that should be kept behind those closed doors.  There is no need to put everything out there for public knowledge.  I've kept that same approach with all my posts on here, and this situation is not going to change that.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on September 28, 2010, 10:28:58 PM
Quote from: Rusty Fishhook on September 28, 2010, 08:09:21 PM
Projected Pointer Lineup 2011
1.  Eric Fritz  SS
2.  Brent Kakwitch 2B
3.  Cody Koback RF
4.  Justin Jirschele 3B
5.  Rob Coe C
6.  Jared Surman LF
7.  Jordan Rennicke C
8.  Kevin Thomas 1B
9.  Dan Douglas CF

DH Sean Gerber/Travis Tuschen

Pitching Staff
1.  Scott Williams 2. Joel Delorit  3.  Cody Koback  4.  Ryan Iverson
No wonder Point has so few wild pitches....  They get to play two catchers in there line-up!!   ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on September 29, 2010, 09:44:56 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on September 28, 2010, 08:17:52 PM
Quote from: Suicide Squeeze on September 28, 2010, 02:14:04 PM
Can you imagine finding out Tincher wasn't playing for Whitewater this year after having your hopes up thinking your team may win the world series and than hear on top of it he could transfer to Point or Oshkosh.  I'm just a little sick to my stomach right now.  

Yes I can imagine it.  Of course I would be disappointed.  But it wouldn't make me write off the team.  You play with who you have and you support your team regardless of who they have, whether they might have been better than they are or whether some kid decided he wanted to play somewhere else.  We've had it happen in WHITEWATER, right Dagger.  Josh Shere was another.  

If someone wants to play for another school, fine.  I sure that they have their reasons.  You simply move on.  

But keep in mind there is always the Findlandia bandwagon you can jump on. ;)
It took awhile for everyone to "move on" after Shere landed at UWO.

I'll give a nickel to anyone who tells me the Koback Situation. Yes, it's turned into a capitalized affair. We get to know about hotel Hooters girls but not this? I'm sure I'll know eventually, but this has to be good. Well, at least decent.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on September 29, 2010, 10:16:55 AM
It took this fan about 15 seconds.  ;)

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on September 29, 2010, 10:18:07 AM
Quote from: Rusty Fishhook on September 28, 2010, 08:31:19 PM
I have no tolerance for pre-madonna's

That's would be primadonna Rusty...

pre-madonna - that must have been Madonna before she was a Debutante at the Cotillion - too funny!!  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on September 29, 2010, 11:10:11 AM
Nice that the Hooter's thing was brought up again.  I spoke to a former player who was involved in that mess at a game last year and almost pissed myself laughing. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on September 29, 2010, 12:20:02 PM
Couple of things...I for one am also a firm believer that certain bits of information are best left between those that experienced the exchange, and if they want everyone to know then they can tell you about it.  As you could probably tell by my last post it was not handled how it should have been, and I'll leave it at that.  He was welcomed back with open arms when he first returned to point after trying out MATC for a week...

...secondly I didn't so much voluntarily leave UWW to head to point as all the other in-conference transfers had done in the past, my situation was a little different.  I was expecting to play out my career as a warhawk, but I'm glad that I got the opportunity to come to point and I will forever consider myself a POINTER!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ballfan55 on September 29, 2010, 03:20:25 PM
Quote from: cubs on September 28, 2010, 10:58:57 AM
Quote from: ballfan55 on September 28, 2010, 10:18:33 AM
He took a greyshirt or whatever you want to call it., but he is entering his Junior year of college.  Doesn't that make him draft eligible?
You can't take a grey-shirt when you practice with the team all season, much less play in eight games as was the case for Koback last season.  I'm sure he applied for a medical hardship and more than likely received it.

As far as being draft eligible, that would be correct.  He would be eligible for the 2011 MLB Amateur draft, since this is his thrid college season.

My point was that transferring to MATC didn't make him draft eligible any faster.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: kennypowers on September 29, 2010, 07:19:39 PM
Quote from: Rusty Fishhook on September 28, 2010, 08:09:21 PM
Projected Pointer Lineup 2011
1.  Eric Fritz  SS
2.  Brent Kakwitch 2B
3.  Cody Koback RF
4.  Justin Jirschele 3B
5.  Rob Coe C
6.  Jared Surman LF
7.  Jordan Rennicke C
8.  Kevin Thomas 1B
9.  Dan Douglas CF

DH Sean Gerber/Travis Tuschen

Pitching Staff
1.  Scott Williams 2. Joel Delorit  3.  Cody Koback  4.  Ryan Iverson


Rob Coe isnt at Stevens Point anymore, this is the 3rd year now hes been at WW.  Also, i dont get why everyone thinks Koback is going to get drafted? He had an OK summer, other than that, what has he actually done?  He hasn't stayed healthy and seems like he has a bad attitude problem, something scouts will hear about.  I feel like before getting drafted, he needs to worry about getting on a team and staying healthy.  How many position players get drafted out of the WIAC? I also feel like we always hear about these Point pitchers who are throwing in the 90's and then when the season comes we never see it.  The one guy who has always impressed me was Delorit, he is a very good pitcher and always competes.  Williams had a down year last year and he needs to improve alot. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on September 29, 2010, 07:50:18 PM
Quote from: ballfan55 on September 29, 2010, 03:20:25 PM
Quote from: cubs on September 28, 2010, 10:58:57 AM
Quote from: ballfan55 on September 28, 2010, 10:18:33 AM
He took a greyshirt or whatever you want to call it., but he is entering his Junior year of college.  Doesn't that make him draft eligible?
You can't take a grey-shirt when you practice with the team all season, much less play in eight games as was the case for Koback last season.  I'm sure he applied for a medical hardship and more than likely received it.

As far as being draft eligible, that would be correct.  He would be eligible for the 2011 MLB Amateur draft, since this is his thrid college season.
My point was that transferring to MATC didn't make him draft eligible any faster.
Which I agreed with!!!  Why mention a greyshirt though, when he played last season?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on September 29, 2010, 08:01:28 PM
Quote from: kennypowers on September 29, 2010, 07:19:39 PM
Quote from: Rusty Fishhook on September 28, 2010, 08:09:21 PM
Projected Pointer Lineup 2011
1.  Eric Fritz  SS
2.  Brent Kakwitch 2B
3.  Cody Koback RF
4.  Justin Jirschele 3B
5.  Rob Coe C
6.  Jared Surman LF
7.  Jordan Rennicke C
8.  Kevin Thomas 1B
9.  Dan Douglas CF

DH Sean Gerber/Travis Tuschen

Pitching Staff
1.  Scott Williams 2. Joel Delorit  3.  Cody Koback  4.  Ryan Iverson
Rob Coe isnt at Stevens Point anymore, this is the 3rd year now hes been at WW.  Also, i dont get why everyone thinks Koback is going to get drafted? He had an OK summer, other than that, what has he actually done?  He hasn't stayed healthy and seems like he has a bad attitude problem, something scouts will hear about.  I feel like before getting drafted, he needs to worry about getting on a team and staying healthy.  How many position players get drafted out of the WIAC? I also feel like we always hear about these Point pitchers who are throwing in the 90's and then when the season comes we never see it.  The one guy who has always impressed me was Delorit, he is a very good pitcher and always competes.  Williams had a down year last year and he needs to improve alot. 
I believe he was trying to point out the kids that COULD be starting for Point this year had they stuck around, hence why Coe, Kakwitch, and Koback are listed.

As far as Williams having a "down" year, he was 10-2 last year and a 1st Team All WIAC selection.  One of those wins included four no-hit innings to clinch the Regional Championship over your Warhawks, and he also picked up a win going seven strong innings at the College World Series.

Btw-Good luck with the Mariners!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on September 30, 2010, 11:59:28 AM
You hit it on the head Cubs I woke up from a dream and envisioned that team this year.  Either way Point will still be very good but as everyone on here probably can tell I have a hard time getting over what could've been.  That projected lineup I posted is a legit national title contender no doubt about it.  I can't imagine Point's opening day lineup will be even close to that good unless they brought in some kids that I don't know about.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ballfan55 on October 01, 2010, 10:07:33 AM
But to be fair, if you are going to use that logic take Jirschele off.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on October 01, 2010, 11:20:05 AM
Quote from: Rusty Fishhook on September 30, 2010, 11:59:28 AM
You hit it on the head Cubs I woke up from a dream and envisioned that team this year.  Either way Point will still be very good but as everyone on here probably can tell I have a hard time getting over what could've been.  That projected lineup I posted is a legit national title contender no doubt about it.  I can't imagine Point's opening day lineup will be even close to that good unless they brought in some kids that I don't know about.
Not sure of you know about him or not, but remember the name Bryan Clark.  I wouldn't be surprised to see his name in the starting line-up on a regular basis.  The kid can just flat out rake!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on October 01, 2010, 12:16:11 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on September 28, 2010, 12:32:54 PM
Quote from: Suicide Squeeze on September 28, 2010, 10:26:44 AM
I wasn't planning on following WIAC baseball that closely this year to begin with and will never attend another WIAC baseball game again if Koback transfers to another WIAC school.  

Too funny.

You'd let a single player stop you from EVER attending another WIAC baseball game again.  No offense intended but it that's the case you couldn't have much of a fan/supporter to begin with.   I don't think the Pointers will miss you much.  

Honestlymaybe I'm old school but that's simply absurd.  
Good news for Pointer Fans, No more Suicide Squeeze, Rusty Fishhook, or whatever he wishes to call himself these days. I still don't understand the fantasy worship you have for Koback. As I said before, his freshman year was okay, NOT Jordan Zimmermann junior year good.  He didn't pitch for the Rafters, but hit the ball very well. So how do you project him as a draft pick in 2011?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on October 01, 2010, 12:24:36 PM
Quote from: Dagger on September 29, 2010, 12:20:02 PM
Couple of things...I for one am also a firm believer that certain bits of information are best left between those that experienced the exchange, and if they want everyone to know then they can tell you about it.  As you could probably tell by my last post it was not handled how it should have been, and I'll leave it at that.  He was welcomed back with open arms when he first returned to point after trying out MATC for a week...

...secondly I didn't so much voluntarily leave UWW to head to point as all the other in-conference transfers had done in the past, my situation was a little different.  I was expecting to play out my career as a warhawk, but I'm glad that I got the opportunity to come to point and I will forever consider myself a POINTER!
Dagger you WILL ALWAYS be a Pointer!!!! Miss ya!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on October 01, 2010, 01:17:50 PM
Who is Bryan Clark?  I have never heard of him.  That's good news for Point because they'll definitely need more sticks to keep up with Whitewater.  As for Koback, you have your opinion I have mine.  He's what you call a difference maker the type of player that can take you from 5th in the country to the champion.  I have no doubt he'll prove it wherever he lands.  I'm certainly not condoning his behavior but realize he's a once in 10 years type of talent.  He can play any outfield spot, pitch, steal bases, hit home runs, what more would you want?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on October 01, 2010, 03:03:52 PM
Cubs,  Did Bryan Clark go to high school in Oshkosh and play for the Appleton Legends?  I believe he's a catcher.  Same guy?  If so that's a huge pickup for Point.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on October 01, 2010, 04:54:07 PM
Quote from: Rusty Fishhook on October 01, 2010, 03:03:52 PM
Cubs,  Did Bryan Clark go to high school in Oshkosh and play for the Appleton Legends?  I believe he's a catcher.  Same guy?  If so that's a huge pickup for Point.
Yes that is the Bryan Clark I am talking about.  He went to Oshkosh North, and then to Faulkner State Community College.  FSCC qualified for the JUCO World Series last season, while Clark hit .337 on the season.

He will have two years of eligibilty left at Point.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on October 01, 2010, 07:31:51 PM
Thanks and huge addition.  I hope Kyle McCugh from Rosholt heads to Point after his junior college years are over.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on October 02, 2010, 11:03:18 PM
Quote from: Rusty Fishhook on October 01, 2010, 01:17:50 PM
Who is Bryan Clark?  I have never heard of him.  That's good news for Point because they'll definitely need more sticks to keep up with Whitewater.  As for Koback, you have your opinion I have mine.  He's what you call a difference maker the type of player that can take you from 5th in the country to the champion.  I have no doubt he'll prove it wherever he lands.  I'm certainly not condoning his behavior but realize he's a once in 10 years type of talent.  He can play any outfield spot, pitch, steal bases, hit home runs, what more would you want?
What DRUGS are you on? You must have seen things that NO ONE else has seen. A once in a 10 year type of talent? Better than Jordan Zimmermann? I'll give you your opinion, but man you don't know talent.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on October 03, 2010, 10:08:29 PM
I didn't say he was better than Zimmerman.  There's been a ton of great Pointer ballplayers but I just believe if he plays all 4 yrs at Point healthy he would've been a top 5 player in school history.  Either way it's a mute point now and I'll stop complaining about it and root on the team they put out there and I'm sure it will still be a great one.  Any word on where he will be playing though?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on October 04, 2010, 10:13:39 AM
I'm not sure that anybody knows at this point what he plans to do...I have heard rumblings from some who think he may not play anywhere!  I have heard that he will transfer to a bigger school, I have heard that he will stay in conference...take your pick.  I have no clue, and to be honest could care less about what the kid does at this point. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on October 04, 2010, 10:33:58 AM
Quote from: Rusty Fishhook on October 03, 2010, 10:08:29 PM
Either way it's a mute point now and I'll stop complaining about it and root on the team they put out there and I'm sure it will still be a great one.  Any word on where he will be playing though?


And if it isn't there is always Findlandia. 

I've heard he is transfering to WHITEWATER





Not really I just said that to yank your chain. LOL
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on October 04, 2010, 02:00:32 PM
I heard over the weekend it's Whitewater but who knows no one seems to have the exact answer.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on October 05, 2010, 08:50:54 AM
On Monday October 11, D3baseball.com will release the 2000 All-Decade team.  

I tried to come up with players from the WIAC that seemed "worthy" of consideration.  Did I miss anyone?

In no particular order:
1.  Vince Mancuso (Oshkosh) A two time WIAC Position Player of the Year (2002 and 2003) and 2003 National Player of the Year. 

2.  Brady Endl (Whitewater) A two time WIAC Pitcher of the Year (2001 and 2004.)  In addition, he was also a 1st Team All WIAC selection as a DH/1B in 2002, 2003 and 2004.  2004 National Player of the Year.

3.  Jeremy Jirschele (Oshkosh) A two time WIAC Position Player of the Year (2004 and 2005-Co-winner.)  A 1st Team All American in 2004 and 2005.

4.  Jordan Zimmerman (Stevens Point)  A two time WIAC Pitcher of the Year (2006 and 2007.)  A 2nd team All American in 2006 and 2007.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on October 05, 2010, 09:07:01 AM
I always thought Greg Reinhard was the WIAC's best pitcher-only of the decade, but he would be No. 5 after your four. Maybe fourth ahead of JZ.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on October 05, 2010, 08:22:28 PM
Steve Wiczek- National Player of the year
Ryan Jones
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on October 05, 2010, 09:47:23 PM
Quote from: Rusty Fishhook on October 05, 2010, 08:22:28 PM
Steve Wiczek- National Player of the year
Ryan Jones
Two things....  

1. Steve Wiczek was never a National Player of the Year.  In 2005 he was the WIAC Co-Position player of the Year with Jirschele.  He was however a 1st Team All American DH in 2005.  

Other than 2005, he didn't even make an All Conference team.  Pretty hard to put him on an "All Decade" team with only one good season.

2.  Ryan Jones was a solid WIAC player (three time 1st team All WIAC selection in 2002, 2003, and 2005.)  However he never once made it onto any level of the All American teams in those seasons.  That in itself would make it hard to make the cut for the All Decade team.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on October 05, 2010, 10:43:20 PM
Wiczek Named National Baseball Position Player of the Year

     Awards have been rolling in for Steve Wiczek and the latest is the biggest of all as the UW-Stevens Point senior has been named the NCAA Division III Position Player of the Year by the National Collegiate Baseball Writers of America.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on October 06, 2010, 08:16:43 AM
My mistake!!!   :-[

I was using the ABCA team for all of my choices, as that is the one that is linked on the NCAA Division III Baseball Championships website each year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on October 06, 2010, 08:17:11 AM
There are quite a few organizations that each name players/pitchers of the year. In many cases, they all have different players named. Just look at the AA teams between ABCA and D3Baseball.com and you can see quite a few differences.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on October 06, 2010, 01:46:02 PM
I agree with you though Cubs he only had 1 big year therefore he's not top 10.  Too bad his entire career wasn't at Point.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on October 12, 2010, 09:33:51 AM
Heard this morning that things went from bad to very bad for a former Pointer player over the weekend. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on October 12, 2010, 09:50:26 AM
Quote from: Rusty Fishhook on October 12, 2010, 09:33:51 AM
Heard this morning that things went from bad to very bad for a former Pointer player over the weekend. 

Care to elaborate?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on October 12, 2010, 11:21:24 AM
Quote from: Rusty Fishhook on October 05, 2010, 08:22:28 PM
Steve Wiczek- National Player of the year
Ryan Jones
Good call on Wiczek making the All Decade team.  He was an Honorable Mention selection at the DH position.  My guess is there probably weren't too many DH's that won the Player of the Year award int he decade, so his chances of being in the Top 3 were probably pretty good.

Jirschele and Mancuso were 1st Team selections, with Jirschele being one of only four unanimous choices.  Endl was a 2nd Team Utility selection.  All-in-all, not too bad a representation for the WIAC.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on October 12, 2010, 11:23:10 AM
Quote from: Rusty Fishhook on October 12, 2010, 09:33:51 AM
Heard this morning that things went from bad to very bad for a former Pointer player over the weekend. 
Interesting to say the least.....  Let the "who" questions start coming.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on October 12, 2010, 12:00:48 PM
When do schools announce their recruits/transfers?  I thought Point announced their class in the fall last year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on October 12, 2010, 12:23:19 PM
usually point makes their announcement in late summer, after their season is finished and before classes resume.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on October 20, 2010, 08:30:26 AM
Oshkosh had their "Scout Day" last week, and while you can never really take a lot away from it, there were a couple of things worth passing along.

-Jeremy Rubens got back on the mound for the first time since undergoing Tommy John surgery and looked alright.  He hit as high as 86 on the radar gun.  Will be interesting to see how he comes back.  Would definitely be a shot in the arm for an Oshkosh pitching staff that lacked depth last season.

-University of Iowa transfer Phil Schreiber was the hardest thrower on the day (not that that means it will translate into success.)  He hit 93 on the gun (the only UWO pitcher to get in the 90's.)

If Rubens could return to form and Schreiber is the real deal, UWO's pitching staff could go from a weakness last season, to a possible strength this year.  If Rubens and Schreiber could be those solid #1 and #2 arms, Westphal and Mrkvicka could slide down to #3 and #4 and give you a solid weekend rotation. 

It will be interesting to see how things play out....

BTW-Sounds like former UWO standout Kyle Kannenberg has traded in the baseball cleats for the sneakers, as he has been seen practicing with the UWO basketball team this fall.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on November 22, 2010, 09:48:20 AM
Thank God Koback is playing now for UWSP this spring.  Their back in national title contention.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on November 22, 2010, 11:26:41 AM
Does that mean you're not a St Scholastica supporter any more?  ;D ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on November 22, 2010, 11:57:05 AM
That's Finladia.  I will still be a Pointer supported but unfortunately will not be able to make as many games this year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on November 23, 2010, 08:37:36 AM
Quote from: Dagger on September 28, 2010, 05:55:50 PM
As for my two cents on the koback situation...there's no chance in hell he ever puts on a uniform for point again, and if he even had the nerve to want to put it back on I would tell him to get lost!
Good thing Point is considered heaven, and not hell.....   :D  So you going to be making the trip to Point this Spring to tell him to get lost? 

Must say I didn't see this happening.  I guess Bloom let the players decide whether to let him back on the team, and they said yes.  I stated a couple months back I would be surprised if he was back on the team, and I can honestly say I still am.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ballfan55 on November 23, 2010, 08:46:19 AM
"Is this heaven?"
"No, it's Iowa."

I guess compared to Iowa Point could be considered heaven!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on November 23, 2010, 02:54:21 PM
Just my opinion which means nothing I'm guessing some of the Point players realized after seeing what Whitewater and Oshkosh have this year that they could really use Koback if they want to finish top 3.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on November 23, 2010, 04:25:04 PM
Maybe they circulated a petition with hundreds, no make that thousands, of signatures and Bloom had no choice but to take him back.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on November 23, 2010, 04:29:11 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on November 23, 2010, 04:25:04 PM
Maybe they circulated a petition with hundreds, no make that thousands, of signatures and Bloom had no choice but to take him back.

Or perhaps Rusty Fishook climbed to the top of the Sentry Insurance building and threatend to fling himself off of it unless his man-crush was permitted back on the team.  Since Stevens Point doesn't have a SWAT team and Sentry refused to cover the costs of his injuries, they gave in.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on November 23, 2010, 07:34:50 PM
It's obvious I think Koback is a lot better than what a lot of people on here think.  To be honest I just really think Fritz, Delorit, and Williams deserve one last crack at a top 3 finish nationally and it won't hurt to have a solid #3 pitcher and great hitter in the lineup.  Someone needs to pick up for the loss of Spurney, Archambeau, and Richter and this will certainly help. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on November 23, 2010, 10:26:38 PM
How do you guys see the WIAC shaking out this year? I have some thoughts, but I'd prefer to save them until I release my national pre-season poll.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on November 24, 2010, 09:04:46 PM
I think Whitewater, Oshkosh, and Point will all be top 10 teams by the end of the year.  The WIAC will get three teams in regionals and advance 2 teams to Appleton.  Point over Whitewater in the championship with Koback striking out 12 in complete game effort.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on November 24, 2010, 09:24:12 PM
Quote from: Rusty Fishhook on November 24, 2010, 09:04:46 PM
I think Whitewater, Oshkosh, and Point will all be top 10 teams by the end of the year.  The WIAC will get three teams in regionals and advance 2 teams to Appleton.  Point over Whitewater in the championship with Koback striking out 12 in complete game effort.

That is completely ridiculous....

...Koback will strike out 13, obviously.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on November 24, 2010, 09:38:37 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on November 23, 2010, 10:26:38 PM
How do you guys see the WIAC shaking out this year? I have some thoughts, but I'd prefer to save them until I release my national pre-season poll.
I still think Point has to be the favorite, considering they return both of their top pitchers from last season (Delorit and Williams.)  Fritz and Jirschele also return to give them a couple of solid bats.  Whitewater should be close behind as well, as both Tincher and Donovan will be back on the mound for the Warhawks.  They will also have Coe, Donovan, and Putnam back in the line-up as well.  

Oshkosh would seem to be the darkhorse, depending on how the transfers perform and how Rubens returns following surgery.  They have Fadness and Berger back to anchor the offense, and Westphal and Mrkvicka back on the mound, who both got meaningful innings last season.  If those two are able to slide down to the #3 and #4 spots, I would think the Titans may finally be able to have enough pitching to sweep a 4-game series, something they didn't do all of last season, and it ultimately cost them a berth in the WIAC Tournament.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on November 25, 2010, 06:40:54 PM
Quote from: cubs on November 24, 2010, 09:38:37 PM
Whitewater should be close behind as well, as both Tincher and Donovan will be back on the mound for the Warhawks.  They will also have Coe, Donovan, and Putnam back in the line-up as well.

I wouldn't forget Aaron Lietner (7-1, 3.86 ERA) will also be a big part of the pitching rotation.  He pitched pretty well all season but was especially good down the stretch.

Ex-WARHAWK standout James Bathey has been named Milwaukee Brewers Vice President.
http://www.uwwsports.com/news/2010/11/24/BSB_1124101845.aspx
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on November 29, 2010, 10:13:47 PM
Tincher is a bulldog and that really helps Whitewater.  He can come back on short rest and dominate.  I think WW will miss Hooper a lot but their top 3 are as good or better than most teams.  Don't see anyone overpowering in that group though.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on December 01, 2010, 08:44:18 PM
Anyone besides myself think there's going to be a lot of windows smashed out of the new dorm in right center at Point's field?  The building is definitely within reach.  Batting practice could be entertaining.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bluemoon on December 01, 2010, 11:12:56 PM
Jeff Donovan will be visiting April 9th and 10th.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on December 04, 2010, 08:21:19 AM
I heard Clintonville Lefty Patrick Van Dalwyk is going to Point next year.  Big time
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on December 04, 2010, 10:35:19 AM
Quote from: Rusty Fishhook on December 04, 2010, 08:21:19 AM
I heard Clintonville Lefty Patrick Van Dalwyk is going to Point next year.  Big time
May want to check your source on that one..... 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on December 05, 2010, 08:34:21 PM
I was just told he was walking around campus last week with Pointer baseball shirt on touring the campus and was seen chatting with Coach Bloom.  Guess I had my hopes up that Point would land the quality lefty.  Let me guess, He's going to Oshkosh?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on December 05, 2010, 11:59:45 PM
I have heard that Ripon is in the mix as well, as far as D3 schools in Wisconsin.  I guess recently a couple of Scholarship schools have also started to show some interest.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on December 06, 2010, 07:51:34 AM
I have my fingers crossed he'll go to Point.  He's a tremendous athlete.  Right now I don't see him as anything more than a D3 player but the sky is the limit for a kid his size and being left handed.  Can't see him going to far away though with the way his father is involved with him and having a younger brother in high school. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on December 06, 2010, 10:36:31 AM
Quote from: Rusty Fishhook on December 06, 2010, 07:51:34 AM
I have my fingers crossed he'll go to Point.  He's a tremendous athlete.  Right now I don't see him as anything more than a D3 player but the sky is the limit for a kid his size and being left handed.  Can't see him going to far away though with the way his father is involved with him and having a younger brother in high school. 

May I ask what exactly is your definition of a D3 player?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on December 06, 2010, 10:40:50 AM
Quote from: Rusty Fishhook on December 04, 2010, 08:21:19 AM
I heard Clintonville Lefty Patrick Van Dalwyk is going to Point next year.  Big time

Quote from: Rusty Fishhook on December 05, 2010, 08:34:21 PM
I was just told he was walking around campus last week with Pointer baseball shirt on touring the campus and was seen chatting with Coach Bloom.  Guess I had my hopes up that Point would land the quality lefty.  Let me guess, He's going to Oshkosh?

This is why we have such hard time with you on this board. You report this kid is going to Point, but in fact, you know nothing of the sort. All you know heard is that he was at Point for a visit.

You know nothing, but like to talk like you do. Start by separating your fantasies from reality and things will go more smoothly. Big time.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pickleshiner on December 06, 2010, 11:14:40 AM
I've been right hundreds of times and never get credit for that though.  I'm not going to argue about it when someone close to the team tells you he's going here I thought it was safe to say he was a Pointer.  Nobody's perfect.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: East Beast on December 06, 2010, 09:52:08 PM
Quote from: cubs on December 05, 2010, 11:59:45 PM
I have heard that Ripon is in the mix as well, as far as D3 schools in Wisconsin.  I guess recently a couple of Scholarship schools have also started to show some interest.

If he can't read then Ripon has potential.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: East Beast on December 06, 2010, 09:55:35 PM
Quote from: pickleshiner on December 01, 2010, 08:44:18 PM
Anyone besides myself think there's going to be a lot of windows smashed out of the new dorm in right center at Point's field?  The building is definitely within reach.  Batting practice could be entertaining.

Especially when Oshkosh comes to town.  Point can't stop them in Point.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on December 06, 2010, 11:25:42 PM
Quote from: East Beast on December 06, 2010, 09:55:35 PM
Quote from: pickleshiner on December 01, 2010, 08:44:18 PM
Anyone besides myself think there's going to be a lot of windows smashed out of the new dorm in right center at Point's field?  The building is definitely within reach.  Batting practice could be entertaining.
Especially when Oshkosh comes to town.  Point can't stop them in Point.
May want to check your stats on that one....  Oshkosh hasn't won a series in Point since 2004 when they swept a single DH.  From 2004-2010, Point has won seven out of ten meetings between the clubs at Point.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on December 07, 2010, 01:26:01 PM
Quote from: pickleshiner on December 06, 2010, 11:14:40 AM
I've been right hundreds of times and never get credit for that though.

Nobody's perfect.

That's because all of the hundreds of times you were correct you were posting under another name.  ;)

You have that correct.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: formman on December 29, 2010, 06:20:20 PM
Looks like the Metrodome will be closed until sometime in March. 300+ games canceled.

Time for the Brewers to step up to the table...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on December 30, 2010, 09:41:06 PM
Quote from: formman on December 29, 2010, 06:20:20 PM
Looks like the Metrodome will be closed until sometime in March. 300+ games canceled.

Time for the Brewers to step up to the table...

Do you have a source on that?

I found this article but it doesn't give a time frame.  It sure doesn't sound like they are planning on hurrying though.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5947321
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: formman on December 30, 2010, 10:20:06 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on December 30, 2010, 09:41:06 PM
Quote from: formman on December 29, 2010, 06:20:20 PM
Looks like the Metrodome will be closed until sometime in March. 300+ games canceled.

Time for the Brewers to step up to the table...

Do you have a source on that?

I found this article but it doesn't give a time frame.  It sure doesn't sound like they are planning on hurrying though.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5947321

Since I live in Minneapolis I am able to listen to the radio, tv, etc. There was a report on one of those that said they would not be able to get the dome back up till mid to late March.

Now there is a story on D3Baseball.com that states the Metropolitan Sports Commission is trying to decide do they repair or replace...stay tuned.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on January 11, 2011, 12:09:37 AM
I had a conversation over the weekend regarding WIAC baseball with a friend of mine, and during the course of the conversation it was mentioned that a two-time All WIAC selection may not be eligible to play this season.  It would definitely be a blow to said teams conference championship aspirations.

Until I can confirm this, I am choosing not to give a name, which I know will bother some....  Sorry!!! :-\
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on January 13, 2011, 12:03:21 PM
WHITEWATER will host the 2011 MidWest Regional. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TongueSlap on January 15, 2011, 02:32:13 PM
Any official word on who may not be able to play this year?  Is it because of injury or grades? 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TongueSlap on January 15, 2011, 03:46:37 PM
Is Point Baseball Coach Bloom in the running for UWSP Athletic Director?  Did they announce whose replacing Frank O'Brien yet?  I thought he was retired as of Jan 3rd but noticed he was at the Pointer basketball games and am assuming he's still assuming the role until his replacement is hired.  While watching Rose Bowl I had heard some names and he was one of them.  Speaking of huge blows that would be a big one if he wasn't coaching.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TongueSlap on January 22, 2011, 03:35:01 PM
Stevens Point #2 and Whitewater #5 in the preseason poll. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on January 23, 2011, 04:04:53 PM
Quote from: pickleshiner on December 04, 2010, 08:21:19 AM
I heard Clintonville Lefty Patrick Van Dalwyk is going to Point next year.  Big time
Hey pickleshiner, err suicide squeeze, err TongueSlap.....

Check your sources again.....  Van Daalwyk will be headed to Ripon College next season, and not Point.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on January 24, 2011, 09:03:06 AM
Someday he'll realize it's not the username giving him away, it's the uninformed, asinine comments. Or maybe he won't.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tommiegun on January 24, 2011, 01:09:42 PM
St. Thomas and Scholastica also ranked.  Way too early MW Regional seeds...
1. Point
2. St. Scholastica
3. St. Thomas
4. Whitewater
5. St. Norbert/MWC Champ
6. Some Crappy two and done team from Illinois. Recent sacrificial lambs have been Concordia and Benedictine.

(Whitewater drops due to internal power of the WIAC).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on January 24, 2011, 03:45:25 PM
Quote from: tommiegun on January 24, 2011, 01:09:42 PM
St. Thomas and Scholastica also ranked.  Way too early MW Regional seeds...
1. Point
2. St. Scholastica
3. St. Thomas
4. Whitewater
5. St. Norbert/MWC Champ
6. Some Crappy two and done team from Illinois. Recent sacrificial lambs have been Concordia and Benedictine.

(Whitewater drops due to internal power of the WIAC).

Benedictine hasn't been in the NCAAs recently, if ever.  I think you meant Aurora.  And the NathCon teams are far from crappy. CUC got placed into a brutal regional in Michigan two years ago, and Aurora was a NathCon fourth place team who made a run. They didn't hold up in a six-team regional, but they were not really expected to be the sixth best team in the region anyway. Aurora has been to the Wrold Series in the past.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on January 24, 2011, 05:15:42 PM
Quote from: tommiegun on January 24, 2011, 01:09:42 PM
St. Thomas and Scholastica also ranked.  Way too early MW Regional seeds...
1. Point
2. St. Scholastica
3. St. Thomas
4. Whitewater
5. St. Norbert/MWC Champ
6. Some Crappy two and done team from Illinois. Recent sacrificial lambs have been Concordia and Benedictine.

(Whitewater drops due to internal power of the WIAC).

As a CSS fan it's always good to see your team ranked highly, but in this case I don't understand the basis for putting Scholastica above Whitewater or St. Thomas.  Whitewater thumped CSS in the regional last year. St. Thomas won all games (3) played between the two teams.   I know STU lost some studs, and I agree that you have listed what could be the top 4 or 5 teams (I think Oshkosh might have a bounce back year) but I just think at this point, until proven otherwise, you have them listed out of order.

I'd go, based solely on what I saw last year, and from what I can gather based on the preseason polls...

1. Point
2. Whitewater
3. St. Thomas
4. CSS

And after that I am not informed well enough to guess...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIACLUV on January 25, 2011, 11:46:53 AM
Since were declaring my Tommies dead with the loss of Schuld, I thought I'd lay my regional pre-season order out and see how it flies.

1) UW-Whitewater (they've owned the WIAC since 01, don't see that changing)
2) St. Thomas (Deeper this year than years past, a little young)
3) Point (Great staff, depth but seem to lose games they shouldn't to lesser teams)
4) Oshkosh (Good talent, good recruiting, health Ruebens, will contend for WIAC)
5) St. Olaf (Very good pitching and revamped roster, will be in the MIAC final)
6) St. Scholastica (lost a lot of offense, but they return a good core of players)
7) St. Johns (The MIAC darkhorse, very solid will steal games from UST & STO)
tie 7) Bethany Lutheran (offensive ???, 2 legitimate starters if Hallahan is healthy?)


Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on January 25, 2011, 11:54:13 AM
Quote from: MIACLUV on January 25, 2011, 11:46:53 AM
Since were declaring my Tommies dead with the loss of Schuld, I thought I'd lay my regional pre-season order out and see how it flies.

1) UW-Whitewater (they've owned the WIAC since 01, don't see that changing)
2) St. Thomas (Deeper this year than years past, a little young)
3) Point (Great staff, depth but seem to lose games they shouldn't to lesser teams)
4) Oshkosh (Good talent, good recruiting, health Ruebens, will contend for WIAC)
5) St. Olaf (Very good pitching and revamped roster, will be in the MIAC final)
6) St. Scholastica (lost a lot of offense, but they return a good core of players)
7) St. Johns (The MIAC darkhorse, very solid will steal games from UST & STO)
tie 7) Bethany Lutheran (offensive ???, 2 legitimate starters if Hallahan is healthy?)


Please add detail on two things if you can...

1.  Olaf's revamped roster?  Who did they get that is going to put them back into contention?  I believe they lost the Jones boys who were two of their best bats the last few years.

2.  Is Hallanhan's health in question?

Also, I don't remember STU ever lacking depth.  So if they are deep again this year, sounds like the same old song.  Interesting top 7!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIACLUV on January 25, 2011, 12:40:04 PM
* Olaf had a great recruiting class last year that will fill the holes left by the Jones' Also another good crop of Twin Cities kids this year make them a team to keep an eye on. Along with the Nelson kid being healthy will give them some pop in the middle that they lacked last year.

* As for the Hallahan situation, a source that works with the Dad's baseball service put it to me, "he got hit around pretty good in the league he was playing in down in Illinois and that he was not healthy so he had to be shut down." Also I saw no mention of him on the Bethany site in their fall wrap up, which makes me believe he didn't throw this fall. Not sure the extent of his health, but I'm sure their getting him ready for spring.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 25, 2011, 01:47:33 PM
Quote from: MIACLUV on January 25, 2011, 12:40:04 PM
* Olaf had a great recruiting class last year that will fill the holes left by the Jones' Also another good crop of Twin Cities kids this year make them a team to keep an eye on.

Every team thinks they have a great recruiting class coming in EVERY season. I am not saying that the Oles do NOT have a great class, but find me evidence of one coach that does not think he had a solid class coming in and I'll find you a coach that is unemployed.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on January 25, 2011, 02:17:22 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on January 25, 2011, 01:47:33 PM
Quote from: MIACLUV on January 25, 2011, 12:40:04 PM
* Olaf had a great recruiting class last year that will fill the holes left by the Jones' Also another good crop of Twin Cities kids this year make them a team to keep an eye on.

Every team thinks they have a great recruiting class coming in EVERY season. I am not saying that the Oles do NOT have a great class, but find me evidence of one coach that does not think he had a solid class coming in and I'll find you a coach that is unemployed.

Didn't take long to find one... check out Crown College, they are so impressed by their last few recruiting classes that they are displaying their 2008 roster on their website.

http://www.stormathletics.com/mens-sports/baseball/roster.html (http://www.stormathletics.com/mens-sports/baseball/roster.html)

UMAC basebll, catch the fever!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tommiegun on January 25, 2011, 02:23:52 PM
Quote from: biggio34 on January 25, 2011, 02:17:22 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on January 25, 2011, 01:47:33 PM
Quote from: MIACLUV on January 25, 2011, 12:40:04 PM
* Olaf had a great recruiting class last year that will fill the holes left by the Jones' Also another good crop of Twin Cities kids this year make them a team to keep an eye on.

Every team thinks they have a great recruiting class coming in EVERY season. I am not saying that the Oles do NOT have a great class, but find me evidence of one coach that does not think he had a solid class coming in and I'll find you a coach that is unemployed.

Didn't take long to find one... check out Crown College, they are so impressed by their last few recruiting classes that they are displaying their 2008 roster on their website.

http://www.stormathletics.com/mens-sports/baseball/roster.html (http://www.stormathletics.com/mens-sports/baseball/roster.html)

UMAC basebll, catch the fever!

Haha, sad. I think even sitting here now, fat and with a shredded rotator cuff, I could be a stud at Crown.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: mr_b on January 25, 2011, 03:07:55 PM
Quote from: biggio34 on January 25, 2011, 02:17:22 PM
Didn't take long to find one... check out Crown College, they are so impressed by their last few recruiting classes that they are displaying their 2008 roster on their website.

http://www.stormathletics.com/mens-sports/baseball/roster.html (http://www.stormathletics.com/mens-sports/baseball/roster.html)

UMAC basebll, catch the fever!
They did manage to win 5 games that year!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ballfan55 on January 25, 2011, 04:31:58 PM
Just curious which of these schools moved to Wisconsin?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on January 25, 2011, 04:47:49 PM
Quote from: ballfan55 on January 25, 2011, 04:31:58 PM
Just curious which of these schools moved to Wisconsin?

Apologies, you are right, this discussion is out of place on the WIAC board.  Let's all head to the UMAC board and recommence the brutality!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on February 01, 2011, 11:51:44 AM
The WARHAWKS have rescheduled games that were to be played in the MetroDome.  We will be playing a pair of doublehitters against Concordia Moorhead in their place.  These doublehitters are scheduled to be played in Omaha, NE.  On the Florida trip the WARHAWKS will play St Olaf, St Thomas (2), Mount Vernon Nazarene and a Minnesota Twins minor league spring training team in addition to several reserve games scheduled. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 03, 2011, 08:49:50 PM
Unable to find a stadium in Omaha in which to play because of the weather and field conditions the WARHAWKS were forced to find another opponent in the eleventh hour.  They were successful in scheduling a pair of single games against Washington University in St Louis the first of which was played today.  The WARHAWKS hammered Wash U 11-1.  The WARHAWKS scored two runs in the first inning, 4 in the second, 2 more in the fourth and seventh and a single run in the eighth on eleven hits.  Wash U's single run was scored in the fifth.  Riley Tincher picked up the win going 5 innings giving up 7 hits and the run which was earned.  He had 3 K's and walked a pair.  Four relief pitchers finished the game holding Wash U hitless and striking out 4 without a walk.  Dan Putnam went 3x5 (3 RS), Rob Coe 3x5 (4 RBI, 2 RS, Double, Home Run).  Andrew Eichstaedt went 2X5 ( 2 RBI, 1 RS, Double).  Jeff Donovan was 2X5 (1 RS, Double) and Matt Beyer was 1X3 (1 RBI, 3RS, Double).    Eight of the WARHAWK runs were scored with two outs.

The two teams will play again tomorrow.    
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 04, 2011, 11:49:36 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 03, 2011, 08:49:50 PM
Dan Putnam went 3x5 (3 RS), Rob Coe 3x5 (4 RBI, 2 RS, Double, Home Run).  Andrew Eichstaedt went 2X5 ( 2 RBI, 1 RS, Double).  Jeff Donovan was 2X5 (1 RS, Double) and Matt Beyer was 1X3 (1 RBI, 3RS, Double).
Safe to assume that Oshkosh signed off on the waiver allowing Eichstaedt to play right away?  I thought if you transferred inside the conference after playing two years at a school (ala Shane Manor) you needed to sit out for one season before you were allowed to play.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on March 04, 2011, 11:56:12 AM
Quote from: cubs on March 04, 2011, 11:49:36 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 03, 2011, 08:49:50 PM
Dan Putnam went 3x5 (3 RS), Rob Coe 3x5 (4 RBI, 2 RS, Double, Home Run).  Andrew Eichstaedt went 2X5 ( 2 RBI, 1 RS, Double).  Jeff Donovan was 2X5 (1 RS, Double) and Matt Beyer was 1X3 (1 RBI, 3RS, Double).
Safe to assume that Oshkosh signed off on the waiver allowing Eichstaedt to play right away?  I thought if you transferred inside the conference after playing two years at a school (ala Shane Manor) you needed to sit out for one season before you were allowed to play.

Is that a WIAC rule?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 04, 2011, 12:45:28 PM
Yes, it is a WIAC rule.  I don't know the circumstances of Eichstaedt leaving Oshkosh but I can say with confidence that we wouldn't be playing him if he wasn't eligible.   

It didn't take him long to make his presence felt.  He had two RBI in his first at bat.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ballfan55 on March 04, 2011, 01:54:16 PM
Maybe the fact he didn't play two complete years and quit part way through his second season had something to do with it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 04, 2011, 01:59:17 PM
Quote from: ballfan55 on March 04, 2011, 01:54:16 PM
Maybe the fact he didn't play two complete years and quit part way through his second season had something to do with it.
Shouldn't matter....  He used two years of eligibility up, regardless of if he played the full season or not.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 04, 2011, 02:07:05 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 04, 2011, 12:45:28 PM
Yes, it is a WIAC rule.  I don't know the circumstances of Eichstaedt leaving Oshkosh but I can say with confidence that we wouldn't be playing him if he wasn't eligible.   
I never questioned his eligibility....  My only comment is why have the rule if there is going to be selective enforcement?  Either let anyone who transfers within the WIAC be eligible right away or do away with the rule completely.  Simple as that.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: macdade77 on March 04, 2011, 02:35:42 PM
We will see how good the Warhawks are after they play Wooster four games in Port Charlotte!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on March 04, 2011, 03:04:15 PM
Quote from: macdade77 on March 04, 2011, 02:35:42 PM
We will see how good the Warhawks are after they play Wooster four games in Port Charlotte!!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Wooster is playing UW-Oshkosh 4 times in Florida, not Whitewater.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 04, 2011, 04:03:38 PM
You're correct biggio.  We won't see Wooster in Florida.  We will play St Thomas, St Olaf, Mount Vernon Nazarene and a Minnesota Twins minor league team. 

Cubs lets have a rule that is totally inflexible regardless of the circumstances.  That's always a good idea.

The WARHAWKS took game two of the two game series with Washington U today 16-10.  The WARHAWKS led 1-0 after the first inning, trailed 2-1 after the second and were tied 3-3 after the third.  They regained the lead 4-3 in the fourth and increased to 9-3 after five and a half.  Washington U closed the gap to 9-6 with three runs in the bottom of the sixth but the WARHAWKS put six more on the board in the seventh and added another run in the eighth to go up 16-6.  Washington U responded with four runs in the bottom of the eighth for the final.  Dan Putnam continued hitting the ball well going 5X5 (3 RS, Double) and Matt Meisenheimer went 3x4 (3RS, 4 RBI, Home Run).  Jeff Donovan and Rob Coe each had a pair of hits and Coe added 4 RBI.  Brent Young (2) and Travis Wessel (1) also recorded RBI.   Donovan got the win going 5.2 innings surrendering 6 runs on 7 hits, 4 BB and 4 Ks.    After a flawless day in the field yesterday the WARHAWK defense was somewhat shaky today with 3 errors. 

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 04, 2011, 08:57:32 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 04, 2011, 04:03:38 PM
Cubs lets have a rule that is totally inflexible regardless of the circumstances.  That's always a good idea.
I guess I was leaning more to the point of doing away with the rule altogether, as there aren't many other leagues (if any) that have the inter-conference transfer rule.

As far as this case, when you quit a team part way into the season, I don't see how the "circumstances" constitute a waiver....  After the incident this summer however, I'm sure dad had something to do with it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 04, 2011, 11:26:56 PM
What "incident?"
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 05, 2011, 09:13:21 PM
Said player was hit by a pitch....  Dad thought it was intentional and was ready to sue the pitcher....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on March 07, 2011, 10:26:12 AM
having lived through the transfer rule myself, I am in complete agreement with abolishing the thing!  It was put into place, as I was told when I was feverishly defending my right to play, in order to stop multi-sport athletes from playing football at the best football school and then transferring at semester so that they could play baseball at the bast baseball school.  In that situation I agree with the rule and there should be something to stop that kind of movement...however in many other cases the rule is too broad and doesn't consider the circumstances.  there's no reason you should have to sit out a year (if you've used 2 or more years eligibility), but it is what it is I guess.  Had I redshirted my freshmen year I would have transferred outside of the conference because then I would have lost a year of eligibility! 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 10, 2011, 03:28:32 PM
It appears as if Point is the first team to post their roster this season....

http://athletics.uwsp.edu/roster.aspx?path=baseball&

A couple of observations:
1.  Kevin Thomas makes the move from 3B to 1B.  Would bet he will be the opening day starter at 1B.
2.  Jirschele and Tuschen listed at 3B and 2B respectively.  It appears the musical chairs on the infield last season is over and done with.
3.  Bryan Clark is a SOLID transfer for the Pointers.  I am curious to see how he figures in.  He was a C in high school, so we'll see how his switch to the OF goes.  My guess is it is to get his bat in the line-up.
4.  Freshman Pitcher Zach Wendorf was a 3rd Team All State selection.  It should be interesting to see how quickly he makes the adjustment to college hitters.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 10, 2011, 04:19:51 PM
The WARHAWK roster has been posted....http://www.uwwsports.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball

Alot of new faces.  Of those eligible to return and aren't on this year's roster only Tim Conway made any significant contribution last year. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 14, 2011, 01:05:57 PM
Three more WIAC teams opened play recently.  Platteville lost a doublehitter to North Central 15-6 and 6-2 in Jacksonville, Il.  Stout dropped a twinbill to Central 7-5 and 13-7 in Arizona.  LaCrosse swept Simpson 6-3 and 3-2 in Arizona. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 14, 2011, 08:56:30 PM
Stout dropped another twin bill today.  This time it was St Johns 7-1 & 9-8.
LaCrosse was beaten by Springfield 7-5
 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 14, 2011, 10:18:54 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 14, 2011, 08:56:30 PM
Stout dropped another twin bill today.  This time it was St Johns 7-1 & 9-8. 

The Johnnies are going to be a solid MIAC team this year that may challenge for the #2 spot behind UST.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 16, 2011, 09:45:44 AM
Platteville lost to #9 Christopher Newport 9-4.  LaCrosse split with St Johns lwinning the first game 13-3 and losing the second one 4-3. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 16, 2011, 08:04:15 PM
Platteville split with Averett winning 12-3 and losing 5-2.  LaCrosse beat Concordia (Wi) 10-8.  Stout got a pair of wins over Minot State 10-1 and 7-5. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 19, 2011, 12:16:21 PM
Stout got a pair of wins over Simpson, 3-0, 4-2.  LaCrosse took two of three from Augsburg winning 7-3, 6-2 and losing 12-6.  Illinois-Chicago beat Superior 8-1 in the YellowJackets season opener.  Platteville dropped a pair losing to Virginia Wesleyan 8-1 and again to Christopher Newport 12-5.  



UW-Whitewater      2-0   
UW-La Crosse         5-3   
UW-Stout              3-7
UW-Platteville         1-6   
UW-Oshkosh           0-0   
UW-Stevens Point   0-0   
UW-Superior           0-1   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 19, 2011, 03:22:58 PM
Point opened their season on the wrong end of a 5-3 score to Oglethorpe.  A seventh inning two run home run was the difference.  It was  Oglethorpe's first win over a ranked opponent since April 2004.  The WARHAWKS dropped the first game of a double hitter against St Olaf 3-2. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 20, 2011, 11:37:18 AM
The WARHAWKS came back to split their double hitter with St Olaf by winning game two 7-2.

In the first game St Olaf took a 1-0 lead with a run in the top of the first.  The WARHAWKS came back to tie the game in the fourth on Jeff Donovan's RBI double.  St Olaf regained the lead with a unearned run in their fourth inning at bat.  Andrew Eichstaedt's sacrifice fly tied the game 2-2 in the sixth but St Olaf pushed a run across in the bottom of the seventh for the 3-2 win.  Riley Tincher (1-1) took the loss giving up all three runs (2 ER) on 8 hits, 0 bb and 2 ks.

A Rob Coe double in the bottom of the first put the WARHAWKS on top 1-0 in game two.  A little bit of everything (HBP, Error, hits (2) and BB (2)) led to six runs in the sixth inning.  St Olaf scored single runs in the sixth and seventh.  Coe was 3x3 (1 RS, 4 RBI) while Donovan, Dan Putnam and Sam Keller all had RBIs.  Donovan went six innings on the mound surrendering 1 run (ER) on 3 hits , 0 bb and struck out 6.   Eric Schmitz pitched an inning of relief surrendering a run (ER) on 2 hits.  

Game one of the Oshkosh/Wooster series went to the Titans 5-3.  Oshkosh lost to Carthage 6-1.

Superior lost to Chicago 10-3.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 20, 2011, 07:09:10 PM
Oshkosh improves to 3-1 after sweeping a DH from Wooster today.  Luke Westphal and Andrew Murphy pick up the victories, while Troy Mrkvicka notches his second and third saves of the season (all against Wooster.)

If you told the UWO faithful last week they were going to win three out of their first four games (knowing they were facing Carthage and Wooster three times) I think most would take it.

After a couple of "off days" UWO faces Wooster and Carroll on Thursday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 20, 2011, 08:00:39 PM
The Oshkosh scores were 7-2 and 2-1.

The WARHAWKS beat St Thomas 7-6.  A four run first inning got the WARHAWKS rolling.  RBI doubles by Matt Beyer and Travis Wessel accounted for three of the runs.  A sacrifice fly from Jeff Donovan plated the fourth run.  St Thomas came back with four of their own in their first at bat as starting pitcher Jack Larsen was unable to complete the inning and was relieved by Kyle Lee.  A pair of WARHAWK runs in the third, thanks to an RBI single from Matt Meisenheimer, regained the lead and a fourth inning sacrifice fly from Beyer added a 7th run.  St Thomas added single runs in both the fourth and sixth innings. 

Larsen got the start but lasted only .2 inning giving up 4 runs (2 ER) on 3 hits, 1 bb and 1 K.  Lee got the win in relief going 8 innings surrendering 7 hits, 2 runs (2 ER), while walking and striking out 3 batters.   Colin Grove got a save pitching .1 inning.

Beyer went 2 x4 (double, 2 RS, 3 RBI). Andrew Eichstaedt also had two hits in three at bats (double, 2 RS).  Wessels, Donovan and Meisenheimer (2) each had RBI. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 20, 2011, 10:12:33 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 20, 2011, 07:09:10 PM
Oshkosh improves to 3-1 after sweeping a DH from Wooster today.  Luke Westphal and Andrew Murphy pick up the victories, while Troy Mrkvicka notches his second and third saves of the season (all against Wooster.)

If you told the UWO faithful last week they were going to win three out of their first four games (knowing they were facing Carthage and Wooster three times) I think most would take it.

After a couple of "off days" UWO faces Wooster and Carroll on Thursday.
I think the Titans are being overlooked this year. There is a reason I keep voting them in my top 25 every week. The WIAC could be looking at three NCAA teams.

I am impressed with three in a row vs Wooster.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 21, 2011, 09:51:26 AM
Stevens Point took a pair from Fontbonne by identical 3-1 scores.

Wooster is a good program so I was surprised to see that they are 5-6 on the season. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 21, 2011, 01:34:00 PM
Point dropped a game to Allegheny 10-6 today. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: voice on March 21, 2011, 03:55:15 PM
The UW-Whitewater baseball team ran its record to 5 & 1 on the season following an 8-6 victory over Mt. Vernon Nazarene (Ohio) this morning in Auburndale, Florida.

Rob Coe continued his torrid pace at the plate with 3 RBI on a 2 for 5 day at the plate.  The senior catcher from Appleton has driven in 14 runs in his team's first seven games of the season.

UWW is playing St. Thomas this afternoon in Florida Ball

Follow Warhawk baseball all season long on Voices Eye on Baseball Blog
http://www.voiceseyeonbaseball.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 21, 2011, 07:42:57 PM
The WARHAWKS left runners in scoring position on base, 11 total, in every inning except the fifth and ninth dropping a game to St Thomas by a 6-4 score.  The WARHAWKS led 3-1 after three innings but St Thomas plated five runs in the fourth to go up 6-3.  WHITEWATER added a run in the eighth but came up short.  Jeff Donovan went 3x5 with a triple and 3 RBI.  Travis Wessel also had 3 hits in 4 at bats and Dan Putnam went 2x5 with an RBI.  Matthew Roberts took the loss going 4 innings surrendering 6 runs (4 ER) on 6 hits with a walk and 3 Ks.  Colin Grove continued pitching well going the remaining 5 innings with allowing a run and just 2 hits with a walk and 3 Ks.

The WARHAWKS wrap up their Florida trip with a game against a Minnesota minor league team on Wednesday and open up the home portion of the schedule with a single game against Concordia Morehead Friday and a double hitter against Bethel  Saturday.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 22, 2011, 09:38:56 AM
Superior lost to Eastern Connecticut 17-8.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 23, 2011, 09:33:33 AM
Point beat Grinnell 3-2
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 23, 2011, 08:32:46 PM
In a big Midwest Region match-up today, Point sweeps St. Thomas 4-2 and 9-0.  I don't have any oter details, so who knows what the pitching match-ups looked like.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 23, 2011, 08:42:31 PM
Everyone that had "St. Thomas opens the season 2-8" on their D3Baseball prediction card, please raise your hand...  Yeah, I didn't think so.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 24, 2011, 12:49:28 PM
Oshkosh completes the 4-game sweep of Wooster today with a 17-1 drubbing, as they pound out 22 hits. 

Matt Wells with the CG victory allowing five hits and striking out five in nine innings of work.  Derek Hiroskey leads the way offensively going 6x6 with 2 doubles and 6 RBI while JUCO transfer Alex Mullendore tallies the first HR of the season for the Titans.  JUCO transfer Kyle Van Abel was the only starter without a hit, as he goes 0x5.  Every other starter had two or more hits.

You gotta love the fact that Wooster was stealing in the 9th inning down 17-0. ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 24, 2011, 01:07:23 PM
I love the fact that even down by 17 runs late, Wooster still was looking to work on improving its game and did not let the day be a complete waste.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on March 24, 2011, 01:31:23 PM
yeah I think a lot of times people forget that these early games are the D3 world's "spring training" so some of the otherwise questionable coaching decisions are simply a result of coaches maximizing the game time situations that they have.  I doubt they believed that the stolen base was going to get them back into things, and I know you're not implying that, it's just more of a chance for runners to get the feel of reading live pitchers and working on base running.  I don't have any problems with stuff like that taking place in the early games of the season on spring break, that's what those games are for...trying stupid stuff and working out the kinks, sometimes no matter what the score is (within reason).  You only get so many opportunities, and can only come so close to replicating actual game speed in practice once you get home...and unfortunately for many in the state they will be coming home to snow covered fields, so game like situations aren't going to be happening anytime soon for them :(

on another note, Oshkosh looks to be back on track after some disappointing outcomes the last couple of years.  Wooster is no slouch!  It was also nice to see point rebound after a shaky start, at best, and sweep a legitimate midwest threat in the tommies (with or without a 2-8 record).  WW looks solid as usual...looks like it's back to a legit three horse race in the WIAC where the conference champs will be decided by how those three teams play each other (usually fairly even in terms of wins/losses) and then whomever doesn't blow a game or two to the lesser teams on their schedule.  Who's our favorite at this point to fill the 4 seed in the postseason for the WIAC?   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIACLUV on March 24, 2011, 01:54:29 PM
Is the Stevens Whitewaterkosh (aka. WIAC tourney) using the the three team format again this year?
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Post by: Just Bill on March 24, 2011, 02:38:17 PM
Quote from: MIACLUV on March 24, 2011, 01:54:29 PM
Is the Stevens Whitewaterkosh (aka. WIAC tourney) using the the three team format again this year?

Yes, according to the 2011 sport code: http://www.wiacsports.com/documents/2010/9/10/2011WIACBaseballCode.pdf
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 24, 2011, 03:57:47 PM
Although not exactly pretty, Oshkosh runs its winning streak to five games with a 9-5 victory over Carroll University.

Kyle Van Abel bounces back from an 0'fer against Wooster in the morning and goes 4x5 with a pair of doubles and 4 RBI.  Troy Mrkvicka comes on in relief and pitches 4.2 innings of scoreless baseball to earn the victory.  Starter Sean Grabig was knocked around in 4.1 innngs of work, giving up 5 runs (all earned) on 10 hits.

All in all, it's always nice to get a win, especially when your #6 or #7 starter takes the mound.

Oshkosh will be back in action tomorrow when they take on Western Connecticut State and Otterbein University.  It will be interesting to see who takes the mound for the Titans tomorrow and Friday, as they are tenatively scheduled to have an in-region DH with St. Norbert on Tuesday, before opening up WIAC play against Platteville on Saturday and Sunday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 24, 2011, 04:06:28 PM
I get what both of you are saying, but what are you working on when the 1B is playing behind the runner? 

I was always from the school of thought that you don't try to take extra bases when the score is lopsided whether you are up 17-0, or down 17-0.....  I suppose with it being "spring training" though, it makes it more acceptable than if it was a conference rival in the middle of the season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on March 25, 2011, 10:17:55 AM
I hear you...without being there and seeing it, it's hard to argue either way.  They very well could have been stealing because they are morons!  but for the sake of arguing, the base runner can still work on reading the pitcher and getting his jump, even when the first baseman is playing back...personally if I were coaching that would not have happened.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 25, 2011, 10:22:49 AM
I never begrudge the losing team from doing anything. I think that's one of the silly unwritten baseball rules. If you're behind by 10 runs or 100, I don't care what you do to try to score.  To do anything less says you're done trying, and if you're done trying then you're wasting everyone's time. Just concede the game and shake hands.  If you're leading then it's different.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 25, 2011, 12:06:38 PM
Oshkosh improves to 6-1, with a 5-0 victory over Western Connecticut State this morning.

Jeremy Rubens appears to have recovered from Tommy John Surgery, as he throws a CG shutout, the fourth of his career.  (It took him just 91 pitches.)  He gave up 6 hits (all singles) and 0 BB, while striking out 8 batters.

JUCO Transfers Kyle Van Abel and Alex Mullendore lead the way offensively, as each recorded three hits, while Doug Beatiie chipped in with two.

The one negative from today?  The Titans were successful just once in four stolen base attempts.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 26, 2011, 09:58:30 AM
The WARHAWKS game with Concordia Morehead yesterday was canceled by the weather.  Likewise the double hitter with Bethel that was to be played today has also been canceled. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 8404DOC on March 29, 2011, 01:26:35 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 24, 2011, 12:49:28 PM
Oshkosh completes the 4-game sweep of Wooster today with a 17-1 drubbing, as they pound out 22 hits. 

Matt Wells with the CG victory allowing five hits and striking out five in nine innings of work.  Derek Hiroskey leads the way offensively going 6x6 with 2 doubles and 6 RBI while JUCO transfer Alex Mullendore tallies the first HR of the season for the Titans.  JUCO transfer Kyle Van Abel was the only starter without a hit, as he goes 0x5.  Every other starter had two or more hits.

You gotta love the fact that Wooster was stealing in the 9th inning down 17-0. ::)
This is my first post on this board so be gentle.  I was at 9 of 10 games in FL and was impressed with the improvement from last season.  Pitching and hitting look solid, a few fielding and base running miscues which were quickly addressed in the dugout. I saw the late steal by Wooster, the Oskosh coach made his feelings known, the field ump stepped in and ended it. All in all a succesful trip, we'll see how they perform in the cold spring weather.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 29, 2011, 01:35:45 PM
Quote from: 8404DOC on March 29, 2011, 01:26:35 PM
This is my first post on this board so be gentle.  I was at 9 of 10 games in FL and was impressed with the improvement from last season.  Pitching and hitting look solid, a few fielding and base running miscues which were quickly addressed in the dugout. I saw the late steal by Wooster, the Oskosh coach made his feelings known, the field ump stepped in and ended it. All in all a succesful trip, we'll see how they perform in the cold spring weather.

Gosh, he usually just bottles that all up inside.  :D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 30, 2011, 03:24:29 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on March 29, 2011, 01:35:45 PM
Quote from: 8404DOC on March 29, 2011, 01:26:35 PM
This is my first post on this board so be gentle.  I was at 9 of 10 games in FL and was impressed with the improvement from last season.  Pitching and hitting look solid, a few fielding and base running miscues which were quickly addressed in the dugout. I saw the late steal by Wooster, the Oskosh coach made his feelings known, the field ump stepped in and ended it. All in all a succesful trip, we'll see how they perform in the cold spring weather.

Gosh, he usually just bottles that all up inside.  :D
A quote from today's local paper:
"The best line I heard from (Wooster's) coach was after our third, hotly contested game (the Titans won 2-1). I remember he said 'We'll be better on Thursday,'" Lechnir said. "Of course I told him 'We will too,' and that's the game we won 17-1. Believe me, they weren't happy."

The article closes with these two paragraphs:
While it remains to be seen how the conference will play out, with ranked powerhouses like UW-Stevens Point and UW-Whitewater also expecting to be WIAC champions, UWO's confidence, and so far, winning ways, have returned.

"I think you'll see us return to what we consider fairly normal around here," Lechnir said.


To this Oshkosh guy, it's nice to see the swagger back. I hope the good start is indicative of how the season will go.

Read the entire article here (http://www.thenorthwestern.com/article/20110330/OSH0201/103300523/Titans-expecting-make-pitch-WIAC-title?odyssey=mod%7Cnewswell%7Ctext%7CFRONTPAGE%7Cp).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 30, 2011, 04:38:38 PM
When Lechnir is chirping, all is right with the world:)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanBystander on March 30, 2011, 04:48:51 PM
Quote from: OshDude on March 30, 2011, 03:24:29 PM
A quote from today's local paper:
"The best line I heard from (Wooster's) coach was after our third, hotly contested game (the Titans won 2-1). I remember he said 'We'll be better on Thursday,'" Lechnir said. "Of course I told him 'We will too,' and that's the game we won 17-1. Believe me, they weren't happy."

The article closes with these two paragraphs:
While it remains to be seen how the conference will play out, with ranked powerhouses like UW-Stevens Point and UW-Whitewater also expecting to be WIAC champions, UWO's confidence, and so far, winning ways, have returned.

"I think you'll see us return to what we consider fairly normal around here," Lechnir said.


To this Oshkosh guy, it's nice to see the swagger back. I hope the good start is indicative of how the season will go.


Classic Lechnir ;D.

Looks like he's picked up a stable full of studs this off season & getting JR back makes ANY team a lot better.  Great to see the 9-1 record coming out of FLA.  Checking back through the archives, this is the best pre-WIAC season since 2005 when UW-O went 13-1.  Ended that year at 29-13 & 2 losses in WIAC tourney.  My guess is that will be unacceptable this year. 

Despite all the (deserved) pre-season hype around Whitewater & Point, this looks like a MUCH improved Oshkosh team this season.  I I don't expect Whitewater & Point to run away & hide.  I also wouldn't be surprised if the WIAC tournament visites Oshkosh this year!     
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: forheavendial4999 on March 31, 2011, 12:11:55 AM
Quote from: TitanBystander on March 30, 2011, 04:48:51 PM
Quote from: OshDude on March 30, 2011, 03:24:29 PM
A quote from today's local paper:
"The best line I heard from (Wooster's) coach was after our third, hotly contested game (the Titans won 2-1). I remember he said 'We'll be better on Thursday,'" Lechnir said. "Of course I told him 'We will too,' and that's the game we won 17-1. Believe me, they weren't happy."

The article closes with these two paragraphs:
While it remains to be seen how the conference will play out, with ranked powerhouses like UW-Stevens Point and UW-Whitewater also expecting to be WIAC champions, UWO's confidence, and so far, winning ways, have returned.

"I think you'll see us return to what we consider fairly normal around here," Lechnir said.


To this Oshkosh guy, it's nice to see the swagger back. I hope the good start is indicative of how the season will go.


Classic Lechnir ;D.


Sounds like Pettorini earned it in this case. Lechnir was just responding to him.

Then UWO hands it to them and they steal down 17 runs to try to scratch one across.

I wonder if these two will play next year. They should play up north, even if it's a cold day, the coaches would provide plenty of hot air at field level!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ballfan55 on March 31, 2011, 10:24:54 AM
Keep in mind the 17-1 drubbing was the last of four games in a row that UW-O played against then 16th ranked Wooster and the Titans won them all.  There may have been a tad bit bad blood built up between the two by then.

The one question I had is when it was 10-0 in the seventh why didn't the "mercy rule" go into effect?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 31, 2011, 10:49:35 AM
Quote from: ballfan55 on March 31, 2011, 10:24:54 AM
Keep in mind the 17-1 drubbing was the last of four games in a row that UW-O played against then 16th ranked Wooster and the Titans won them all.  There may have been a tad bit bad blood built up between the two by then.

The one question I had is when it was 10-0 in the seventh why didn't the "mercy rule" go into effect?

Both teams need to agree before the game to invoke the mercy rule. It's not automatic. Apparently they decided not to. Sometimes those extra two innings allow coaches to get other kids into games.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on March 31, 2011, 10:51:33 AM
Quote from: Just Bill on March 31, 2011, 10:49:35 AM
Quote from: ballfan55 on March 31, 2011, 10:24:54 AM
Keep in mind the 17-1 drubbing was the last of four games in a row that UW-O played against then 16th ranked Wooster and the Titans won them all.  There may have been a tad bit bad blood built up between the two by then.

The one question I had is when it was 10-0 in the seventh why didn't the "mercy rule" go into effect?

Both teams need to agree before the game to invoke the mercy rule. It's not automatic. Apparently they decided not to. Sometimes those extra two innings allow coaches to get other kids into games.

And to allow regulars to reach, All Conference, All Region and All American status.  :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on March 31, 2011, 11:13:26 AM
It's very surprising that the mercy rule was not put into play, I know a lot of the places that host these college teams in the spring write in a provision that states that all 9 inning games will have the mercy rule enforced to keep play moving on these fields as to keep the schedules in order.
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Post by: 8404DOC on March 31, 2011, 12:46:32 PM
Quote from: Bronko7 on March 31, 2011, 11:13:26 AM
It's very surprising that the mercy rule was not put into play, I know a lot of the places that host these college teams in the spring write in a provision that states that all 9 inning games will have the mercy rule enforced to keep play moving on these fields as to keep the schedules in order.
The schedule for the tourney allowed for ample time between games plus I don't think they had a full slate of teams as some of the fields, especially in Fort Meyers went unused. I don't think any games were pushed back during the time UWO was there even though some with higher scores went longer than usual.
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Post by: ballfan55 on March 31, 2011, 12:58:58 PM
I agree with that, it was just surprising.  Actually it gave me time to finish my lunch before getting to the field for the Carroll game.  

Actually I just went back and read the tournament rules and it says there is no 10 run rule.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 8404DOC on March 31, 2011, 02:04:20 PM
I hear there is still a ton of snow on the outfield and allot of water on the infield at Oshkosh, anybody have eyes on to give an opinion if the games this weekend will happen? Heard they may be moved to Platteville if they can't get the field ready.
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Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 31, 2011, 08:13:26 PM
The WARHAWKS took both ends of the double hitter with Ripon today 19-4 and 14-5.  Leading 7-2 after three innings of the first game the WARHAWKS scored a pair in the fifth, single runs in the sixth and seventh and eight runs in the eighth.  Riley Tincher (2-1) got the win by pitching 5 innings giving up 2 runs, both earned, on 4 hits with 3 walks and strikeouts.  Justin Lambert relieved him going 2 innings allowing a pair of runs, one earned, on 1 hit, 2 strikeouts without a walk.  Tom Kerndt and Eric Schmitz each pitched a hit less inning and combined for three strikeouts.  The WARHWKS pounded out 25 hits in the game.  Andrew Eichstaedt led the way going 4x6 (3 RS, 2 RBI). Dan Putnam, 3x5 (RS, double), Rob Coe, 3x6 (2 RS), Jeff Donovan, 3x5 (1 RBI) and Sam Keller 3x5 (2 RS, 2 RBI, 2 doubles) all had three hits.  Steve Bartlein (double), Ryan Leavitt, Matt Beyer (2 doubles), Travis Wessels, Nathan Boltz and Dylan Friend (2 RBI, home run) all had RBI.  The WARHAWKS left 14 runners on base.

Jeff  Donovan (3-0) went five innings surrendering one run (earned) on 2 hits without a walk and three strikeouts to pick up the win in game two.  Colin Grove (1 hit, 0 runs, 1 k), Kyle Lee ( 3 hits, 5 runs (4 er), 1 bb, 2 K), Matt Roberts (1 hit, 0 runs, 1 K) and Rob Coe (1 hit, 0 runs) each pitched an inning in relief.   The WARHAWKS led 13-1 after six innings before Ripon put 5 on the board in the seventh.    The sixteen hit offense was led by Beyer who was 4x5 (3 RS. RBI, 2 doubles).  Putnam 3x5 (3RS, 2 RBI, triple), Coe 3x5 (2 RS, RBI, 2 doubles), Donovan 3x5 (RS, RBI, 2 doubles) had a multiple hit game.  Eichstaedt (1x3, 2 RS, 2 RBI, double) and Dylan Friend each had an extra base hit while Brent Young added an RBI.

The use of the new bats was evident today as there were at least a half dozen hits that would have easily cleared the fence using last years bats.  All of them either hit the fence or fell just short of it today.  The wind blowing in also had some impact but most of it was due to the bats.  They will keep balls in the park that wouldn't have in the past.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 31, 2011, 08:47:56 PM
Quote from: 8404DOC on March 31, 2011, 02:04:20 PM
I hear there is still a ton of snow on the outfield and allot of water on the infield at Oshkosh, anybody have eyes on to give an opinion if the games this weekend will happen? Heard they may be moved to Platteville if they can't get the field ready.
Games will be played this weekend, however they will be played in Platteville.  Oshkosh had their tarp on the infield, however the outfield is just too wet from all of the melted snow.  There actually isn't any snow on the field, but without some heavy winds, it's going to take some time for the field to dry out.

If Oshkosh is a true contender for the WIAC title this season, they need to take all four against Platteville, regardless of if they are played in Oshkosh or Platteville.  For the record, the last time UWO was able to take all four from the Pioneers was 2004.
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Post by: cubs on March 31, 2011, 08:58:30 PM
Nice too see Whitewater take a pair from Ripon today, even if Ripon is a shell of what they used to be.  Have to admit I was a bit surprised to see Whitewater throw two of their top guys five innings each, with four WIAC games coming up on Saturday and Sunday.  It only gives them two days rest if they come back and throw on Sunday.  I know they brought back Tincher and Hooper on short rest quite a bit last season, but with it being early in the year one would think they would want to avoid putting too much stress on the arm, especially with the cool temperatures.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on April 01, 2011, 01:24:15 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 31, 2011, 08:58:30 PM
Nice too see Whitewater take a pair from Ripon today, even if Ripon is a shell of what they used to be.  Have to admit I was a bit surprised to see Whitewater throw two of their top guys five innings each, with four WIAC games coming up on Saturday and Sunday.  It only gives them two days rest if they come back and throw on Sunday.  I know they brought back Tincher and Hooper on short rest quite a bit last season, but with it being early in the year one would think they would want to avoid putting too much stress on the arm, especially with the cool temperatures.

Maybe they figure they won't need their top arms to beat UWS.  I agree that it would be strange to be bouncing guys on 2 days rest this early in the season in this type of weather.
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Post by: Just Bill on April 01, 2011, 01:41:16 PM
Stevens Point has already postponed theit Saturday DH against St. Norbert.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 02, 2011, 03:29:50 PM
Conference action opened up today around the conference.

In Game #1 in Whitewater, Whitewater defeats Superior 6-2.  Superior committed 6 errors, including 2 in the 7th inning on a pair of bunts, which allowed the Warhawks to score 4 unearned runs and turned a 2-1 game into a 6-1 game.  Whitewater gets a solid outing from Justin Lambert, who gives up just one run on 8 hits in 8 innings of work.  He walked two and struck out five.

In Game #1 at Platteville, Platteville scores three runs in the 9th inning to win 3-2.  Jeremy Rubens held the Pioneers to just two hits through 8 innings and looked like he was cruising to a 1-0 victory.  However, the Pioneers get back-to-back extra base hits to lead off the 9th inning and tie the game 1-1.  After an intentional walk and failed pick-off attempt allowed runners to move up to 2nd and 3rd, the Pioneers got a two run single from Trevor Kattre to take a 3-1 lead.  Rubens allowed another double, before being relieved by Mrkvicka.  The three extra base hits by the Pioneers in the 9th inning were the first extra base hits allowed by Rubens all season in over 25 innings of work.  The Titans actually outhit the Pioneers 11-6, but were unable to get that clutch hit.  They had the bases loaded with just one out in the bottom of the 9th inning, but a Hiroskey fly out and Grabig strike out sandwiched around an RBI walk by Dostalek was all they could muster.  It was a fitting end to a game which saw Oshkosh leave 14 runners on base.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 02, 2011, 11:32:20 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 02, 2011, 03:29:50 PM
Conference action opened up today around the conference.

In Game #1 in Whitewater, Whitewater defeats Superior 6-2.  Superior committed 6 errors, including 2 in the 7th inning on a pair of bunts, which allowed the Warhawks to score 4 unearned runs and turned a 2-1 game into a 6-1 game.  Whitewater gets a solid outing from Justin Lambert, who gives up just one run on 8 hits in 8 innings of work.  He walked two and struck out five.

In Game #1 at Platteville, Platteville scores three runs in the 9th inning to win 3-2.  Jeremy Rubens held the Pioneers to just two hits through 8 innings and looked like he was cruising to a 1-0 victory.  However, the Pioneers get back-to-back extra base hits to lead off the 9th inning and tie the game 1-1.  After an intentional walk and failed pick-off attempt allowed runners to move up to 2nd and 3rd, the Pioneers got a two run single from Trevor Kattre to take a 3-1 lead.  Rubens allowed another double, before being relieved by Mrkvicka.  The three extra base hits by the Pioneers in the 9th inning were the first extra base hits allowed by Rubens all season in over 25 innings of work.  The Titans actually outhit the Pioneers 11-6, but were unable to get that clutch hit.  They had the bases loaded with just one out in the bottom of the 9th inning, but a Hiroskey fly out and Grabig strike out sandwiched around an RBI walk by Dostalek was all they could muster.  It was a fitting end to a game which saw Oshkosh leave 14 runners on base.

Whitewater ended the day sweeping Superior, winning game two easily 17-1 in 7 innings. The Warhawks put the game out of reach early, scoring 4 times in each the first and second innings, then tacking on 6 more on 5 hits & 2 Superior errors in the third. Kyle Lee got the win going 5.0 innings of 2 hit ball with 2 strikeouts, & 0 walks in relief of Colin Grove (1.0 innings 1H, 2 BB, 2SO), to up his record to 2-0 on the season. Andrew Eichstaedt led the way for the 'hawks with a 4-5 1HR, 3RS, 4 RBI's, & 1 SB performance in game 2.  Daniel Putnam was also 4-5 (2 1B, Double, Triple) 3 RS from his lead off spot. Putnam continued at a torrid pace at the plate going 7-10 on the day. He goes into sunday with an 11 game hit streak - 8 of them multi-hit games - and batting .604 on the season.  Travis Wessels went 5-9 in the DH'er, 3 RS and 4 RBI's.

Oshkosh got a 5 hit, 9 SO complete game from Phil Schreiber to win the nightcap in Platteville 5-0.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 03, 2011, 04:17:24 PM
In Game #1 today at Whitewater, Riley Tincher over matches the Yellow Jackets as Whitewater defeats Superior 3-0. Tincher alllows just five hits (two through the first eight innings) while striking out 11 on just two days rest.  Jeff Donovan with the start in Game #2 for the Warhawks.

In Game #1 at Platteville, Luke Westphal goes the distance in an 11-1 seven inning victory for the Titans.  Troy Mrkvicka will get his first start of the season in Game #2, as he was only used for 2/3 of an inning in the first three games of the series for Oshkosh.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 03, 2011, 06:42:31 PM
In Game #2 today at Whitewater, Jeff Donovan goes seven strong innings as Whitewater defeats Superior 15-2. Any idea why this game went the full nine innings, when it was a 14-2 game after seven innings?  I would assume both coaches agreed to play nnine innings regardless of the score since it was the final game of the series.

In Game #2 at Platteville, Troy Mrkvicka goes seven strong inings as well in 8-3 victory for the Titans.

Stout won Game #1 at La Crosse today, 10-4, while La Crosse came back to win Game #2 14-2 in seven innings to take three out of four for the weekend.

WIAC Standings Through April 3rd
Whitewater 4-0
La Crosse 3-1
Oshkosh 3-1
Stevens Point 0-0
Platteville 1-3
Stout 1-3
Superior 0-4

The big match-up next weekend will be in Stevens Point, as Whitewater and Stevens Point meet up for a four game series.  It will be interesting to see how that series plays out.

Question for the Whitewater backers out there-Anybody happen to know the deal with pitcher Aaron Leitner?  I noticed he hasn't seen the field yet this year.  Safe to assume there is some type of injury issue?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 03, 2011, 09:45:34 PM
Tincher was on cruise control today though he had to work out of a jam in the ninth inning.  Between strikouts Superior had three singles to load the bases before a ground ball to third led to a fielder's choice force out at second that ended the game.  Andrew Eichstaedt (2x4) and Matt Beyer (2x2) had multiple hits while Jeff Donovan, Dan Putnam and David Cladis each had  RBI.

Donovan surrendered 5 hits and two run, both unearned, striking out nine with a single walk in his seven inning stint.  Tom Kerndt relieved him a game up a single hit in an inning and two thirds.  Rob Coe faced two hitters in his one third inning and recorded the final out.  Donovan went 3x5 with 3 RS and an RBI to lead the WARHAWKS offense.  Cladis was 2x2 (double) with 2 RS and an RBI.  Jared Fon scored twice and had an RBI.  Eichstaedt, Putnam and Coe each had a pair of RBI.  Andrew Bauer and Matt Beyer also had RBI.   The WARHAWKS had a total of 15 hits and left 10 runners on base in the game. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 04, 2011, 09:39:00 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 03, 2011, 06:42:31 PM
Any idea why this game went the full nine innings, when it was a 14-2 game after seven innings?  I would assume both coaches agreed to play nnine innings regardless of the score since it was the final game of the series.

An explanation:

The umpires said the game WAS NOT over. UW-Whitewater head coach John Vodenlich explained following the game.

"The question was asked to the umpires what exactly is the rule because it is their (umpires) job to make the call," Coach Vodenlich explained following the game. "They said they didn't know the rule and I said OK lets keep playing."

They didn't know the rule?  ???  That just seems hard to imagine considering the rule hasn't changed in quite some time.  It did give both teams an opportunity to substitute and get some bench players into the game. 

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 05, 2011, 09:43:48 PM
Can only imagine if Rusty Fishhook, Suicide Squeeze, Pickle Shiner, etc was still around........

Point splits with 3-11 Ripon today, winning the opener 11-7, while dropping the nightcap 8-6.  It looks like Point went in with the mindset to get all of their top pitchers work today.  They ended up throwing six guys today, and outside of Koback, nobody threw more than 3.0 innings.  Offensively, Jordan Rennicke had a huge day, going 6x9, including 4x5 with 3 2B's and a HR in Game #1.  He drove in 8 of the Pointers 11 runs.

My guess is that Coach Bloom was using this as a tune-up for this weekend four game series against Whitewater, as this was the Pointers first game since they returned from Florida over a week ago.  While the loss is an upset, I can't say it is surprising.  The Pointers seem to drop a game or two like this each year (Lawrence last year) in the NC portion of the schedule and it doesn't seem to hurt them too often.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 06, 2011, 09:52:27 AM
He always has Findlandia.  :D  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 06, 2011, 12:17:46 PM
I'm back and with a new attitude.  I didn't handle the Ripon loss all that well but like Cubs stated it's almost expected Point will throw a few games early in the year.  I'm not as excited as past years because of the new bats and it's made me less interested.  For Point to only have 2 home runs so far is unreal.  Hopefully the weather cooperates this weekend for the big series.  I hope Point pulls out at least 3 but they will need to get better pitching performances than what they got out of their top guns against Ripon.  Of course I have to add in that I'm stoked about Koback being at Point and he's starting off strong hitting.  Couple of questions since I've been working 42 jobs and not been on here in some time.  What happened to Jack Archie for Point from last year?  He was pretty solid for a freshman last year and pitched a gem against Edgewood last year?  How about Leitner from Whitewater is he playing this weekend against Point?  Does anyone else besides me think Oshkosh is very underrated and should be in top 5?  Their pitching staff is top 5 in the nation this year.  They will not lose in the WIAC with Schreiber on the hill.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 06, 2011, 12:24:35 PM
cubs,

He's just like Beetlejuice. Say his name three times and he appears.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 06, 2011, 12:30:18 PM
I won't appear often and will try not to give anyone a heart attack with my comments.  I don't care enough this year to get ticked off.  I would be lying if I said I wasn't a tad disappointed so far with Point seeing they really haven't played that great of competition.  The only ranked team they've played is St. Olaf and lost.  St. Thomas appears to be really down this year.  I know the trend is for Point to play to their level of competition early on and than step it up end of April early May.  Let's hope 3 teams make regionals and 2 make the world series.  I believe I had picked Point to beat Whitewater in title game with Koback striking out 14 about 6 months ago.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 06, 2011, 12:57:29 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 06, 2011, 12:17:46 PM
I'm back and with a new attitude.  I didn't handle the Ripon loss all that well but like Cubs stated it's almost expected Point will throw a few games early in the year.  I'm not as excited as past years because of the new bats and it's made me less interested. For Point to only have 2 home runs so far is unreal.  Hopefully the weather cooperates this weekend for the big series.  I hope Point pulls out at least 3 but they will need to get better pitching performances than what they got out of their top guns against Ripon.  Of course I have to add in that I'm stoked about Koback being at Point and he's starting off strong hitting.  Couple of questions since I've been working 42 jobs and not been on here in some time.  What happened to Jack Archie for Point from last year?  He was pretty solid for a freshman last year and pitched a gem against Edgewood last year?  How about Leitner from Whitewater is he playing this weekend against Point?  Does anyone else besides me think Oshkosh is very underrated and should be in top 5?  Their pitching staff is top 5 in the nation this year.  They will not lose in the WIAC with Schreiber on the hill.
1.  The bats are making the game more like baseball, and less like beer league softball.  The emphasis has been put back on defense and fundamentals.  I for one like it.  This is the game I grew up watching and playing.  If I wanted to see 21-17 scores, I would go to the football games in the fall.

2.  I am fairly confident that you won't see Leitner pitch this weekend.

3.  Unfortuanately for Oshkosh, you also need to have some offense to go along with the pitching.  Outside of Fadness and Hiroskey, there isn't really a lot returning, and I am still hesitant on the JUCO guys for the simple fact that the pitching they face is only going to get better as the season goes along.  Will they keep up the .350 + averages?  We'll see...  I'd like to see how they do against the Tincher's, Delorit, and Williams' before I make up my mind.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 8404DOC on April 06, 2011, 03:37:08 PM
NCAA DII Stats
I was just looking at some of the stats over the weekend to see were the WIAC teams land,
I included teams only if they were in the top 30.

Team     Rank     

Batting avg
LAX     3     362
WW    5     361
OSH   12    348
SP      13    347

ERA
OSH     3     2.19

Walks Allowed
OSH     1     1.36
LAX      6     2.25
WW     13   2.45
SP        22  2.65

Fielding %
WW     10     .971
SP        22    .967

Double Plays
OSH     4     1.36

If you don't see a team it means they didn't make the top 30, I'm a stats guy and love to crunch the numbers.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 07, 2011, 03:25:37 PM
NCAA Mid-Season report on the affect of the new bat standards:

http://bit.ly/ef98C2

In Division III, compared to this point of the season in 2010:

Batting average down from .311 to .291
Runs scored down from 7.05 per game to 6.03 per game
Home runs down from 0.54 per game to 0.30 per game
ERA down from 6.23 per game to 5.11 per game
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 08, 2011, 11:20:30 AM
Which big 3 would you take?  Coe, Putnam, Donovan or Koback, Fritz, Jirschele?  What if you make it big 4 and throw in Tincher or Williams/Delorit?  Too bad there's not free agency in D3 baseball they could've been the Miami Heat.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 09, 2011, 09:52:06 AM
UWW's Eric Baldwin was on NBC's Poker After Dark this week. Good exposure for him.

He took second place and took home zero-point-none dollars in the winner-take-all, 50K buy-in format. If anyone cares, Baldy lost to Tom Dwan.

The Director's Cut from the tournament airs early Sunday morning. It should feature a lot of Baldwin.

Baldwin's PAD bio (http://www.pokerafterdark.com/players/match_77/Eric_Baldwin)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 09, 2011, 03:22:06 PM
The WARHAWKS take game one in Point today 5-3.  Point scores three unearned runs in the first inning on three hits and three WARHAWK errors.  The WARHAWKS take the lead with four runs in the fifth and add an insurance run in the eighth.  Riley Tincher goes the distance allowing seven hits and striking out two improving to 4-1 on the season.  Scott Williams takes the loss for the Pointers. 

Dan Putnam leads the WARHAWKS twelve hit attack going 4x5 with an RBI.  Jeff Donovan, Dylan Friend and David Cladis all go 2x4.  Donovan has an RBI while Friend and Cladis each scored a run.  Rob Coe had a pair of RBI and Ryan Leavitt also added an RBI. 

Cody Koback was 3X4 to lead the Pointers. Surman and Thomas had RBI. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 09, 2011, 06:20:11 PM
Oshkosh and La Crosse split pitcher's duels. Rubens went the distance for a 5-0 UWO win in Game 1. Running and Lauersdorf pitched well in a 4-2 LAX win in Game 2. It was a struggle on offense all day.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 09, 2011, 07:02:18 PM
Whitewater took game 2 as well 6-2.  Donovan had a towering 3 run HR to right to seal it.  Point just could not get the bats going and the balls they did hit hard were right at people. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 09, 2011, 07:10:02 PM
The WARHAWKS take game two from the Pointers by a score of 6-2.  Leading 1-0 into the seventh inning the WARHAWKS erupted for five runs on four singles and a three run home run off the bat of Jeff Donovan.  Point answered with a pair in the bottom of the inning but couldn't get any more.  Donovan improves his record to 5-0 going the distance allowing 2 earned runs on seven hits, 3 walks and striking out 4.  Andrew Eichstaedt and Rob Coe each had a pair of hits.  Dan Putnam, Eichstaedt, Coe, Donovan, Matt Beyer and David Cladis all scored runs.  Donovan had 4 RBI.  Coe and Dylan Friend each had a single RBI.

Delorit took the loss going 6.2 innings allowing 6 earned runs with 3 walks and striking out 5.  Dan Douglas and Sean Gerber had the Pointer RBI.  
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 10, 2011, 08:49:54 PM
Point takes 2 this afternoon by scores of 8-1 and 11-7.  Cody Koback picked up the win in game 1.  Cam Seidl started game 2 and lasted around 2 innings and freshman Tyler Flood came in and pitched very well for a freshman.  My observations from this great series are Point has far better pitching depth than Whitewater but Whitewater's top 2 can beat anyone.  I'm expecting Williams and Delorit to pick it up as they always seem to do later in the season.  Putnam and Donovan are definitely 2 of the top 25 players in D3 as are Koback and Jirschele.  It was a lot of fun watching these two teams battle and lots of balls were pummeled and still didn't leave the yard.  Whitewater is definitely going to miss Leitner as their #3 and #4 are average.  Hopefully Point can establish a consistent #4 pitcher in the rotation that can consistently throw strikes.  Lots of tremendous freshman arms.  I really like the freshman left hander Wendorf he's going to be a force the next few years.  Can we start a recall on these bats and go back to the old ones?  I like being at the diamond for 8-9 hrs for two games.  More for your money.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 10, 2011, 09:16:51 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 10, 2011, 08:49:54 PM
Putnam and Donovan are definitely 2 of the top 25 players in D3 as are Koback and Jirschele. 

Can we start a recall on these bats and go back to the old ones?  I like being at the diamond for 8-9 hrs for two games.  More for your money.
Really?  What did Jirschele show you to make you think he's one of the Top 25 player in Division III?  Jirschele was 3x16 for the series, with 0 extra base hits.  That is an average that is below the Mendoza line.  How does that make a guy a Top 25 in the Nation?  (By comparison, Putnam was 8x17, Donovan 6x15, and Koback 7x12.) 

As far as the bats go, I say keep them, but I may be a bit biased, as I played during the season the WIAC played with wood bats.  It seperated the pretenders from the contenders.  It puts an emphasis on every pitch and play in the field that much more, as it's hard to make it up with a 3-run HR the next inning.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 10, 2011, 09:25:19 PM
WIAC Standings Through April 10th
Whitewater 6-2
La Crosse 5-3
Oshkosh 5-3
Stevens Point 2-2
Platteville 3-5
Stout 3-5
Superior 0-4

The big match-ups coming up this week pit Oshkosh at Stevens Point on Wednesday and Stevens Point at La Crosse on Saturday and Sunday.  These two series could go a long way in determining who qualifies for the WIAC Tournament this weekend.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 10, 2011, 09:46:07 PM
I knew Jirschele didn't have a ton of hits in the series but for the most part just had bad luck.  He hit the cover off the ball nearly every at bat and the hits he had were clutch hits.  I guess my putting him in top 25 wasn't based on just this weekend.  He's a gold glove infielder and one of the toughest outs in the nation.  I hate the new bats with a passion.  I'm guessing 10-15 HR'S with the old bats Koback and Donovan each would've had a minimum of 3.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 11, 2011, 09:29:00 AM
Damn, we missed a golden opportunity.  I was hoping for at least a split on Sunday. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIACLUV on April 11, 2011, 09:37:05 AM
I think someone hit the head of the nail in an earlier post about the pitching depth of WW. UWSP is set up for tournament play with the depth of that staff. Oshkosh certainly didn't take advantage with 2 splits over the weekend. Does anyone want to burst the Leitner bubble? Why is this kid not taking the mound? Injury, grades, discipline? He is a huge piece come tourny time.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 11, 2011, 11:35:06 AM
I was told Leitner is done for season with shoulder surgery and a few other pitchers for Whitewater are having Tommy John.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 12, 2011, 07:46:24 AM
Predictions for Oshkosh-Point series on Wednesday.  This is going to be big time but I have Point winning game 1 2-1.  Jirschele hits 2 run HR to seal the victory.  Game 2 I see Point winning 1-0 in a pitchers dual between Schreiber and Delorit.  Delorit k's 12 and Jirschele hits a solo HR to win it.  Should be great pitching and very little offense especially with the crappy weather that's being predicted.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 12, 2011, 04:15:06 PM
Platteville and Edgewood College live stats this afternoon:

http://www.uwplatt.edu/athletics/baseball/livestats/xlive.htm

EC leads 3-0 in the first.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 12, 2011, 06:33:54 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 12, 2011, 07:46:24 AM
Predictions for Oshkosh-Point series on Wednesday.  This is going to be big time but I have Point winning game 1 2-1.  Jirschele hits 2 run HR to seal the victory.  Game 2 I see Point winning 1-0 in a pitchers dual between Schreiber and Delorit.  Delorit k's 12 and Jirschele hits a solo HR to win it.  Should be great pitching and very little offense especially with the crappy weather that's being predicted.
So does this mean you are off the Koback bandwagon and on the Jirschele Express now? 

You do realize Point has hit 3 home runs total and Oshkosh has yet to allow a home run this year don't you?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 12, 2011, 08:24:20 PM
Or how about the fact that Jirschele hit four home runs in over 200 at bats last year with the old bats.  So he's going to hit half as many in two games with the new bat.  I suppose anything is possible but I don't but I don't like the odds of this happening.

Platteville rallies for a 10-6 win. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 12, 2011, 08:47:35 PM
No Koback is still by far my favorite player but I decided to tone it down this year because I obviously think he's a lot better than most others on here.  He has a legit shot of getting drafted but I'm hoping it's after next year.  I want to see him another year.  Those games tomorrow are going to be pretty quick with the quality of pitching you have going.  I don't see Williams and Delorit struggling 2 games in a row.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 8404DOC on April 13, 2011, 07:59:03 AM
Here are the stats as of 4/13/11 broken down to show just WIAC teams.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 8404DOC on April 13, 2011, 08:04:57 AM
NCAA Baseball                  
Division IIIBatting Average                  
Through Games 04/10/2011                  
                  
Rank   Name   G   AB   H   BA   
17   Wis.-Stevens Point   17   572   195   0.341   
22   Wis.-Whitewater   17   594   200   0.337   
32   Wis.-La Crosse   19   605   200   0.331   
44   Wis.-Oshkosh   18   586   192   0.328   
126   Wis.-Stout   18   556   168   0.302   
171   Wis.-Superior   13   431   126   0.292   
329   Wis.-Platteville   18   587   144   0.245   
                  
Division IIIScoring                  
                  
Rank   Name   G   R   PG      
16   Wis.-Whitewater   17   148   8.7      
67   Wis.-Stevens Point   17   123   7.2      
120   Wis.-La Crosse   19   124   6.5      
128   Wis.-Oshkosh   18   116   6.4      
170   Wis.-Superior   13   78   6      
248   Wis.-Stout   18   94   5.2      
303   Wis.-Platteville   18   81   4.5      
                  
Division IIIRuns                  
                  
Rank   Name   G   R         
   Wis.-Whitewater   17   148         
   Wis.-La Crosse   19   124         
211   Wis.-Stevens Point   17   123         
239   Wis.-Oshkosh   18   116         
   Wis.-Stout   18   94         
316   Wis.-Platteville   18   81         
   Wis.-Superior   13   78         
                  
Division IIIHits                  
                  
Rank   Name   G   AB   H      
187   Wis.-La Crosse   19   605   200      
   Wis.-Whitewater   17   594   200      
   Wis.-Stevens Point   17   572   195      
218   Wis.-Oshkosh   18   586   192      
268   Wis.-Stout   18   556   168      
313   Wis.-Platteville   18   587   144      
332   Wis.-Superior   13   431   126      
                  
Division IIIDoubles Per Game                  
                  
Rank   Name   G   2B   PG      
19   Wis.-Whitewater   17   42   2.47      
50   Wis.-Stevens Point   17   37   2.18      
51   Wis.-Oshkosh   18   39   2.17      
147   Wis.-La Crosse   19   33   1.74      
255   Wis.-Superior   13   18   1.38      
267   Wis.-Stout   18   24   1.33      
282   Wis.-Platteville   18   23   1.28      
                  
Division IIITriples Per Game                  
                  
Rank   Name   G   3B   PG      
   Wis.-Stout   18   9   0.5      
26   Wis.-La Crosse   19   9   0.47      
27   Wis.-Stevens Point   17   8   0.47      
   Wis.-Platteville   18   6   0.33      
109   Wis.-Whitewater   17   5   0.29      
   Wis.-Superior   13   3   0.23      
279   Wis.-Oshkosh   18   2   0.11      
                  
Division IIIHome Runs Per Game                  
                  
Rank   Name   G   HR   PG      
   Wis.-Platteville   18   7   0.39      
100   Wis.-Stout   18   7   0.39      
324   Wis.-La Crosse   19   6   0.32      
   Wis.-Whitewater   17   5   0.29      
   Wis.-Stevens Point   17   3   0.18      
   Wis.-Superior   13   2   0.15      
   Wis.-Oshkosh   18   2   0.11      
                  
Division IIISlugging Percentage                  
                  
Rank   Name   G   AB   TB   SLG PCT   
46   Wis.-Stevens Point   17   572   257   0.449   
45   Wis.-Whitewater   17   594   267   0.449   
51   Wis.-La Crosse   19   605   269   0.445   
99   Wis.-Stout   18   556   231   0.415   
109   Wis.-Oshkosh   18   586   241   0.411   
241   Wis.-Superior   13   431   156   0.362   
279   Wis.-Platteville   18   587   200   0.341   
                  
Division IIIStolen Bases Per Game                  
                  
Rank   Name   G   SB   CS   PG   
61   Wis.-Whitewater   17   34   7   2   
168   Wis.-Stevens Point   17   24   5   1.41   
241   Wis.-Oshkosh   18   19   6   1.06   
286   Wis.-Platteville   18   15   5   0.83   
302   Wis.-Stout   18   14   6   0.78   
311   Wis.-La Crosse   19   14   10   0.74   
359   Wis.-Superior   13   3   4   0.23   
                  
                  
Division IIIBase on Balls                  
                  
Rank   Name   G   BB         
   Wis.-Whitewater   17   72         
   Wis.-Platteville   18   67         
   Wis.-Oshkosh   18   64         
105   Wis.-La Crosse   19   53         
   Wis.-Superior   13   49         
330   Wis.-Stout   18   46         
331   Wis.-Stevens Point   17   45         
                  
Division IIISacrifice Bunts                  
                  
Rank   Name   G   SH         
   Wis.-Oshkosh   18   27         
   Wis.-La Crosse   19   13         
   Wis.-Stevens Point   17   11         
   Wis.-Stout   18   11         
   Wis.-Whitewater   17   11         
   Wis.-Superior   13   10         
   Wis.-Platteville   18   3         
                  
Division IIIEarned Run Average                  
                  
Rank   Name   G   IP   R   ER   ERA
5   Wis.-Oshkosh   18   155   46   37   2.15
35   Wis.-La Crosse   19   150.7   72   54   3.22
55   Wis.-Whitewater   17   144   73   57   3.56
111   Wis.-Stevens Point   17   138   74   67   4.37
270   Wis.-Stout   18   134   134   93   6.25
324   Wis.-Platteville   18   139.3   139   117   7.56
346   Wis.-Superior   13   100   134   106   9.54
                  
Division IIIStrikeouts Per Nine Innings                  
                  
Rank   Name   G   IP   SO   K/9   
32   Wis.-La Crosse   19   150.7   132   7.9   
168   Wis.-Stevens Point   17   138   101   6.6   
201   Wis.-Whitewater   17   144   101   6.3   
250   Wis.-Oshkosh   18   155   101   5.9   
246   Wis.-Stout   18   134   88   5.9   
315   Wis.-Platteville   18   139.3   77   5   
340   Wis.-Superior   13   100   49   4.4   
                  
Division IIIHits Allowed Per Nine Innings                  
                  
Rank   Name   G   IP   HA   PG   
23   Wis.-Oshkosh   18   155   138   8.01   
41   Wis.-La Crosse   19   150.7   144   8.6   
61   Wis.-Stevens Point   17   138   137   8.93   
65   Wis.-Whitewater   17   144   144   9   
315   Wis.-Platteville   18   139.3   194   12.53   
326   Wis.-Stout   18   134   192   12.9   
347   Wis.-Superior   13   100   159   14.31   
                  
Division IIIWalks Allowed Per Nine Innings                  
                  
Rank   Name   G   IP   BB   PG   
1   Wis.-Oshkosh   18   155   27   1.57   
8   Wis.-Whitewater   17   144   38   2.38   
21   Wis.-La Crosse   19   150.7   45   2.69   
104   Wis.-Stevens Point   17   138   54   3.52   
192   Wis.-Stout   18   134   62   4.16   
264   Wis.-Superior   13   100   52   4.68   
304   Wis.-Platteville   18   139.3   81   5.23   
                  
Division IIIFielding Percentage                  
                  
Rank   Name   G   PO   A   E   PCT
21   Wis.-Stevens Point   17   414   189   21   0.966
29   Wis.-Whitewater   17   432   175   22   0.965
127   Wis.-Oshkosh   18   465   210   33   0.953
170   Wis.-Platteville   18   418   167   31   0.95
188   Wis.-Stout   18   400   172   31   0.949
209   Wis.-La Crosse   19   452   211   37   0.947
333   Wis.-Superior   13   300   138   36   0.924
                  
Division IIIDouble Plays Per Game                  
                  
Rank   Name   G   DP   PG      
   Wis.-Oshkosh   18   23   1.28      
   Wis.-Stevens Point   17   13   0.76      
   Wis.-Stout   18   12   0.67      
   Wis.-La Crosse   19   12   0.63      
   Wis.-Platteville   18   11   0.61      
   Wis.-Superior   13   7   0.54      
   Wis.-Whitewater   17   6   0.35      
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 13, 2011, 11:11:51 AM
uwspathletics Live stats http://bit.ly/fO6Oyc and audio http://bit.ly/g5FH9b of today's baseball games vs @UWOshkoshTitans! 1pm first pitch.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 13, 2011, 12:29:15 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 12, 2011, 08:24:20 PM
Or how about the fact that Jirschele hit four home runs in over 200 at bats last year with the old bats.  So he's going to hit half as many in two games with the new bat.  I suppose anything is possible but I don't but I don't like the odds of this happening.
You could go even farther with that statement....  Add in the 150 AB's from his freshman year without a HR, and you are looking at four HR's in 357 collegiate AB's.  It wouldn't surprise me to see him with a couple of doubles, but I think you are really dreaming as far as the HR's go.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 13, 2011, 12:33:50 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on April 13, 2011, 11:11:51 AM
uwspathletics Live stats http://bit.ly/fO6Oyc and audio http://bit.ly/g5FH9b of today's baseball games vs @UWOshkoshTitans! 1pm first pitch.
Nice to see Point catching up with the rest of the WIAC....  What does that leave now, just Superior that has yet to get live stats/updates?  (La Crosse hasn't had live stats this year, but they do update the game on their website.  I could've sworn they had live stats in the past.)  I guess you can't really count them though, as they are always a few years behind up in Canada. ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 13, 2011, 12:40:03 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 12, 2011, 08:47:35 PM
Those games tomorrow are going to be pretty quick with the quality of pitching you have going.  I don't see Williams and Delorit struggling 2 games in a row.
One would have to guess the match-ups would be:

Game #1-Rubens vs Williams

Game #2-Schreiber vs Delorit

I think you have four guys starting tomorrow that wold be classified as "ACE" type pitchers.  It would not surprise me to see a couple of 3-2 type games, which be just fine with me.  Point has beaten Oshkosh 7 out of the last 10 meetings in Point, so it would seem as though Point has the advantage.  I'm going to go out on a limb and say that whichever team wins Game #1, rides the momentum into Game #2 and gets the sweep. 

Over/Under for Total Runs in the two games today-11.5
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 13, 2011, 12:45:30 PM
I'll take the over:)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIACLUV on April 13, 2011, 03:27:23 PM
Did I miss an earlier post on Blake Berger? He should be a senior this year if I'm not mistaken. I don't see him on the roster, did he transfer somewhere?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: John Gleich on April 13, 2011, 04:22:30 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 13, 2011, 12:45:30 PM
I'll take the over:)

Good call.... it's 10-2 SP heading into the top of the 9th in game 1.

Oshy led 2-1 going into the bottom of 7th, then Point rattled off 5 in the 7th and 4 in the 8th.

It's now a final.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanBystander on April 13, 2011, 04:46:23 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 13, 2011, 12:40:03 PM
Over/Under for Total Runs in the two games today-11.5

Can I still take the over?

Wow - what a wreck of a few innings.  Hopefully Rubens brings the extinguisher to the mound with him.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: forheavendial4999 on April 13, 2011, 05:32:23 PM
Quote from: PointSpecial on April 13, 2011, 04:22:30 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 13, 2011, 12:45:30 PM
I'll take the over:)

Good call.... it's 10-2 SP heading into the top of the 9th in game 1.

Oshy led 2-1 going into the bottom of 7th, then Point rattled off 5 in the 7th and 4 in the 8th.

It's now a final.

This is why every conference game should be 9 innings.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 13, 2011, 07:46:43 PM
Whitewater takes two from Platteville at home...5-1 in game one behind Tincher (allowed one run on eight hits, walked none, and struck out eight in eight innings of work) and 8-2 in game two. Donovan went, I believe 6 innings, 1 run on about 4 hits - 3 relievers finished up with 1 inning each giving up 1 run on 2 hits combined.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 13, 2011, 08:05:58 PM
The WARHAWKS took both ends of the double hitter with Platteville 5-1 and 8-2.

The WARHAWKS scored first in game one when Dan Putnam led off with a double and a Rob Coe double plated him.  They added three runs in the fifth.  Jared Fon led off with a double, advanced to third on a Matt Beyer sac bunt and scored on a David Cladis sac fly.  Putnam singled, stole second and scored on a Platteville throwing error for the second run.  Three consecutive walks plated the third run.  The WARHAWKS final run came after Fon hit his second double and a pair of sacs brought him home. Platteville scored their only run in the seventh.  Riley Tincher improved to 5-1 pitching 8 innings surrendering 6 hits, one earned run and striking out eight.  Jack Larson pitched a hitless inning to wrap up the game.   Fon led the WARHAWKS offense going 3X4 and scoring 2 runs.  Dan Putnam also had multiple hits (2x4) and scored a pair of runs.  Rob Coe, Ryan Levitt and Cladis (2) had RBI.

Bill Oppriecht took the loss.  Aaron Hopson (2x4) and Cody Luther (2x3) had multiple hits for the Pioneers.

Jeff Donovan picked up his sixth win of the season in game two.  Donovan went 6 innings giving up 1 run (earned) on 4 hits while walking 2 and striking out 7.  Mattew Roberts surrendered the second Platteville run (earned) giving up two hits with one walk and two strikeouts.  Eric Schmitz pitched a hitless inning striking out two and Rob Coe struck out the side in his one inning of work.  The WARHAWKS put this one away early scoring six runs in their first at bat on 2 doubles, 4 singles, a walk and a Platteville error.  Putnam (2x4, DBL, 2 RS), Cladis (2x4, RBI), Samual Keller (2x4, 1 RS, RBI) and Dyan Friend (2x4, DBL, 2 RS, RBI) had multiple hits.  Coe (DBL, RS) and Logan Peot (RS, 2 RBI) had RS &/or RBI.  

Platteville used six pitchers in the game.  David Cotty took the loss.  Aaron Hopson was 2x5 with an RBI to pace the Pioneers.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 13, 2011, 08:08:52 PM
Oshkosh took game two 3-1 to split the double hitter with Point.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 13, 2011, 08:13:22 PM
Quote from: PointSpecial on April 13, 2011, 04:22:30 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 13, 2011, 12:45:30 PM
I'll take the over:)
Good call.... it's 10-2 SP heading into the top of the 9th in game 1.

Oshy led 2-1 going into the bottom of 7th, then Point rattled off 5 in the 7th and 4 in the 8th.

It's now a final.
Take away the 4 run 8th when Mrkvicka stayed out to save the bullpen in case it would be needed in Game #2 and I would have been darn close, with 6-2 and 3-1 finals, for 12 runs.  Maybe that is why I don't gamble anymore.  ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 13, 2011, 08:14:27 PM
Even though Douglas was clearly safe at home I still would have to say that was a DARP.  You have Gerber up and took the bat out of his hands when he already had 5 hits between the two games and would've scored 2 with a single.  Either way Point had the chances and didn't capitalize and Reubens got the job done.  
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 13, 2011, 08:15:52 PM
Quote from: forheavendial4999 on April 13, 2011, 05:32:23 PM
Quote from: PointSpecial on April 13, 2011, 04:22:30 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 13, 2011, 12:45:30 PM
I'll take the over:)

Good call.... it's 10-2 SP heading into the top of the 9th in game 1.

Oshy led 2-1 going into the bottom of 7th, then Point rattled off 5 in the 7th and 4 in the 8th.

It's now a final.
This is why every conference game should be 9 innings.
Which is also why Oshkosh struggles to fill their schedule some seasons as they don't want to play 7-inning games....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 13, 2011, 08:19:10 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 13, 2011, 08:14:27 PM
Even though Douglas was clearly safe at home I still would have to say that was a DARP.  You have Gerber up and took the bat out of his hands when he already had 5 hits between the two games and would've scored 2 with a single.  Either way Point had the chances and didn't capitalize and Reubens got the job done.  
Your viewpoint was completely different than mine then, because Douglas never got to the plate....  Mullendore came up the line to get the ball causing Douglas to try and go around, which allowed Mullendore to tag him.

As far as missed opportunities, why not bunt Koback in a 3-1 game with runners on 1st and 2nd and nobody out in the Bottom of the 7th inning?  Instead he hits into a double play, Jirschele grounds out, and Point has nothing to show for it.  Obviously that wasn't the strangest decision though, as the play in the 9th takes the cake.  Even if Douglas scores, you still trail 3-2 and need another hit to tie the game, as runners would have still been at 1st and 2nd with two outs.  It was a high risk-no reward decision. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 13, 2011, 08:34:53 PM
WIAC Standings Through April 13th
Whitewater 8-2
La Crosse 6-4
Oshkosh 6-4
Stevens Point 3-3
Stout 3-5
Platteville 3-7
Superior 1-5

Seems like more splits this season than normal.  Big series coming up this weekend with Stevens Point visiting La Crosse.  La Crosse stubbed their toe a bit today with the 10-6 loss in Game #2 to Superior.  When all is said and done, playoff spots may be determined more on how the Top 3 teams do against the bottom instead of head-to-head if everyone keeps splitting.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 13, 2011, 08:54:24 PM
Quote from: TitanBystander on April 13, 2011, 04:46:23 PM
Hopefully Rubens brings the extinguisher to the mound with him. 
He did once again....  CG 3-1 victory, with the only run scored being unearned.  He threw quite a few pitches, but always made the big pitch when he needed, whether it was stranding a leadoff double early in the game, or striking out Koback who represented the go ahead run with runners on 1st and 2nd and one out in the 9th inning.  He seems to be making the most of every chance he gets to take the mound this season following Tommy John surgery. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 14, 2011, 06:14:11 PM
Coach Bloom took blame for the game 2 loss in the Stevens Point Journal.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 14, 2011, 08:47:42 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 14, 2011, 06:14:11 PM
Coach Bloom took blame for the game 2 loss in the Stevens Point Journal.
I was very impressed with the quotes in the article!!!!

Here's a link for anyone interested:
http://www.stevenspointjournal.com/article/20110414/SPJ02/104140528/College-baseball-Pointers-fail-complete-sweep-Oshkosh?odyssey=tab
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 14, 2011, 09:16:14 PM
Oshkosh traveled to Marian today for a non-conference DH, and were able to come away with a pair of victories.  The Titans pitching led the way again, as their #6 (Murphy) and #7 pitchers (Grabig) were each able to go the distance for complete game wins.  Murphy took care of business in the opener, for a 7-2 victory, while Grabig got his first victory in a Titan uniform winning the nightcap 10-1. 

With the three earned runs given up in 18 innings, the Titans lowered their team ERA to 2.32.  If they could get any offensive production, the Titans have the potential to make a legitimate run.  However, the offense has struggled to produce consistently which has forced the pitching to be almost perfect in order to get a win.  Today they got production out of the top three hitters in the line-up (Fadness 6x11, Kamps 5x10, and Van Abel 4x9) but after that the rest of the team combined to go 8x42.  That just isn't going to get the job done against the upper echelon teams.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 16, 2011, 10:39:18 AM
All three of the DH's scheduled for today have been postponed and resceduled for Monday afternoon.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 17, 2011, 03:09:16 PM
Whitewater ace Riley Tincher getting knocked around the ballpark today, as Stout leads the Warhwaks 14-7 in the bottom of the 7th inning.  Tincher gives up 9 runs (all earned) on 12 hits (including 4 HR's) in 6 innings of work.  I'm sure the wind is having some afffect on some of the HR's, but Stout must still be squaring up some balls.  Whitewater scored four runs in the Top of the 7th to tie the game 7-7, but Stout responded with seven runs of their own in the bottom half including their fifth HR of the game to takea 14-7 lead.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 17, 2011, 03:57:34 PM
Point defeats La Crosse in Game #1 at La Crosse today 13-3 in 8 innings.  Cody Koback stold the show both on the mound and at the plate.  He went 6 innings on the mound, giving up two earned runs while striking out seven.  He was also 2x4 at the plate, with a pair of home runs, scoring three times while driving in five runs.

Superior takes Game #1 against Platteville 10-3.  Platteville's live stats aren't working, so no details other than the score.

Stout's live stats also appear to be having problems, as the score is froze with Stout leading 14-7 in the Top of the 8th inning.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 17, 2011, 06:58:29 PM
  WARHAWKS take game two 13-8.  Jeff Donovan goes 8 innings and gets the win (12 hits, 8 runs, 7 earned, 3 walks, 11 strikeouts).  Kyle Lee strikes out the side in an inning of relief.  Dan Putnam 2X3, 3 RBI.  Donovan 2x3, home run, 2 RBI, Dylan Friend 1x2, 3 RBI, Matt Beyer, Rob Coe, Nathan Boltz and Travis Wessels each have an RBI.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 17, 2011, 07:35:40 PM
Platteville gives up two runs in the 9th inning, but holds on for a 4-3 victory over Superior and earn a split.

After Stout ties the game 7-7 in the 5th inning, Whitewater scores one in the 6th, three in the 7th, and two in the 8th to take a 13-7 lead and eventually wins 13-8.  Donovan earns the victory going eight innings in which he gave up eight runs (7 earned) on twelve hits and three walks.  He did strike out 11 Blue Devils on the day.

Point scores six runs in the 8th inning to turn a 9-8 deficit into a 14-9 lead, and tacks on two more in the 9th inning to answer La Crosse's three run bottom of the 8th inning, and pulls out a 16-12 victory.  Point marches out eight different pitchers with none of them going more than two innings.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 17, 2011, 08:26:04 PM
So after looking a closer look at the boxscore from today, I notcied that Eric Van Beck didn't pitch at all.  

One would think with the struggles that seven of the eight pitchers Point had take the mound in Game #2 he would have seen the field at some point.  He had thrown the fifth most innings on the team going into today.  Anyone happen to know anything?

I also noticed that every Point starter had a hit in Game #2, with seven of the nine starters having two hits.  Rennicke continues to swing a hot bat, as he had four hits and six RBI's in the nightcap.  Surman was the only starter without two hits, as he was 1x6 with a pair of RBI's.

I would assume Point would start Williams and Delorit tomorrow as they look to win the series, as they both will have four days rest.

WIAC Standings Through April 17th
Whitewater 9-3
Stevens Point 5-3
Oshkosh 6-4
La Crosse 6-6
Stout 4-6
Platteville 4-8
Superior 2-6
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 17, 2011, 10:12:40 PM
Did I miss something or where was Dan Douglas today?  I am impressed that Point rocked Running.  He shut them down at Point last year causing me my first of 5 mini heart attacks.  Let's hope they can take 2 again tomorrow with the big guns going.  Stout beating Whitewater all I can say is Wow.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 17, 2011, 10:15:43 PM
So all I post is scores today, and somehow my karma gets dinged....  Guess i should have just let everyone look up the scores for themselves.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 17, 2011, 10:46:41 PM
Wasn't me Chief.  By the way I'm not that Stout beat Whitewater just the fact they beat Tincher which is tough to do.  Kind of surprised that they scored 8 earned on Donovan also.  It's looking more and more like the WIAC is wide open this year.  I hope Douglas didn't get hurt in that collision at the plate against Oshkosh that's all I can come up with.  That would be an enormous blow for Point if he's done.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 18, 2011, 12:14:28 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 17, 2011, 10:15:43 PM
So all I post is scores today, and somehow my karma gets dinged....  Guess i should have just let everyone look up the scores for themselves.

You've got 1,954 other posts on this website. Any one of them could have been smited today.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 18, 2011, 01:35:08 AM
Not a complaint, an excuse or anything else, but I wonder if there's another team in the country with fewer true home games than Oshkosh's eight. And those home games are on four dates over the course of two weekends? That's a lot of studying in buses and hotels.

While I'm here, thanks for yesterday, Stout Blue Devils. Please do that again today.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on April 18, 2011, 10:39:23 AM
Quote from: OshDude on April 18, 2011, 01:35:08 AM
Not a complaint, an excuse or anything else, but I wonder if there's another team in the country with fewer true home games than Oshkosh's eight. And those home games are on four dates over the course of two weekends? That's a lot of studying in buses and hotels.

While I'm here, thanks for yesterday, Stout Blue Devils. Please do that again today.
Welcome to St. Scholastica's spring every season! There is currently only 9 games left scheduled for lovely Duluth, and they have yet to practice outside yet!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 18, 2011, 03:30:02 PM
Trailing 3-1 after six Point gets a run in the seventh and eighth and two runs in the ninth to take game one 5-3.  Jirschele's two run double was the winner.  Williams gets the win.  Iverson gets a save.

Stout's live stats either aren't working or the teams aren't playing.  They're stuck on yesterday's second game.  Ditto Platteville's website.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 18, 2011, 03:54:06 PM
WARHAWKS win game one 11-5.  
Platteville beats Superior 6-4 in their first game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: John Gleich on April 18, 2011, 05:47:01 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 17, 2011, 10:15:43 PM
So all I post is scores today, and somehow my karma gets dinged....  Guess i should have just let everyone look up the scores for themselves.

Have one back (not that I took any...).

I think somebody's been sniping lately.  I've lost 5 in the matter of the last few weeks and barely posted.  And it was all informational stuff, nothing even remotely edgy.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 18, 2011, 06:50:36 PM
WARHAWKS take game two 9-5 to salvage three out of four. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: brewcrew2008 on April 18, 2011, 07:45:06 PM
Point takes Game 2 in La Crosse 7-6 in 11 innings. Cody Koback with a run scoring double followed by Sean Gerber with a 2 run single to put the Pointers up 7-4 in the top half of the 11th, Cam Seidl came on to close it out after some trouble made it 7-6. Iverson got the win going two innings in relief following starter Joel Delorit who went 8 solid innings.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 18, 2011, 08:14:52 PM
Huge 4 game sweep by Point.  Van Beck/Douglas updates anyone?  There's virtually no way Point will play in Superior on Thursday with the snow storm hitting.  I'm also guessing Point's field will not be playable until at least next week.  Can you imagine if Point-Superior don't play at all this year?  Not saying that's 4 wins for Point but I would guess at least 3 without question.  What's the ruling again on that?  I thought someone had said the games have to be played within 3 days of the first scheduled game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 18, 2011, 08:33:27 PM
Justin Lambert (3-1) picked up the win for the WARHAWKS in game one today.  Lambert went 6 innings allowing 6 hits, 1 run (unearned) with 2 walks and 2 strikeouts.  Jack Larson pitched 2 innings giving up 2 hits, 3 runs (1 earned) with a walk and a strikeout.  Tom Kerndt finished the last inning surrendering an earned run on no hits, no walks and a strikeout.  Dan Putnam led the 13 hit WARHAWK attack going 3x4 (double, 1 RS, 2 RBI).   Andrew Eichsteadt had pair of hits in five at bats including a home run (2 RS, 3 RBI).  Jeff Donovan (2x4, double) and Dylan Friend (2x4, 1 RS, double) also had multiple hits.  Ryan Leavitt, Sam Keller, Jared Fon, Matt Beyer and Travis Wessels all had a RBI.  The two teams stranded a total of 25 runners (WW:13, Stout: 12) and a total of 9 hitters were hit by pitches.  The WARHAWKS were sloppy defensively committing 5 errors.

Kyle Lee (3-1) started and got the win in game two going 5 innings giving up 5 runs (all earned) on 7 hits with 0 walks and 3 strikeouts.  Matthew Roberts (1 hit, 0 runs, 0 walks, 4 strikeouts) and Rob Coe (1 hit, 0 runs, 0 walks, 2 strikeouts) each pitched two innings of relief.  Keller led the way offensively going 3x4 (3 RS, 2 RBI, double).  Putnam (2x4, 2 RS, 2 doubles), Coe (2x4, 2 RS, 2 RBI) and  Donovan (2x5, 1 RS, 2 doubles) all had multiple hits. Fon (2), Beyer and Friend all had RBI.  The defense improved significantly without an error.  

Coe catches 34 innings and then pitches the final two.  He's an iron man.  Point let a good one get away.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 18, 2011, 08:36:09 PM
Last year the games had to made up by Monday.  It seems that rule changes about every year or two and I'm not sure what it is this year.

Wasn't there a situation a few years ago where Point was unable to get their Superior games on the books and it ended up costing them in terms of the conference standings?  Was that the year that the missed games counted as losses for the teams involved?   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: brewcrew2008 on April 18, 2011, 08:54:24 PM
From the sounds of it Douglas got hurt on that final play vs Oshkosh, no word on Van Beck. Looking at the forecast it actually doesn't appear as though Superior is in line for much snow somehow, so hopefully Point can get those games in
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 18, 2011, 10:57:56 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 18, 2011, 08:36:09 PM
Last year the games had to made up by Monday.  It seems that rule changes about every year or two and I'm not sure what it is this year.

Wasn't there a situation a few years ago where Point was unable to get their Superior games on the books and it ended up costing them in terms of the conference standings?  Was that the year that the missed games counted as losses for the teams involved?
Not sure about Point, but I know in 2003 Oshkosh ended up "losing" four games after they had a pair of DH's against La Crosse and Superior rained out.  Oshkosh finished 17-3, but adding those four losses (Platteville and Superior combined to go 9-36 that season) put them at 17-7, while Whitewater went 19-5 and "won" the WIAC Championship.  A few weeks later Oshkosh beat Whitewater to win the Midwest Regional and a berth in the College World Series, so I guess when it was actually played on the field, the results were a bit different.

I believe because of the 2003 season, the standings are now based on the winning percentage of the games that were played, instead of counting them as losses.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 18, 2011, 11:19:50 PM
Winter Storm Watch for north of Madison goes into effect Tuesday night. Thinking there could be some games affected by the storm for the rest of the week.  Also congrats to Coach Bloom who got his 300th career win in the second game on Sunday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 18, 2011, 11:27:53 PM
WIAC Standings Through April 17th
Whitewater 11-3
Stevens Point 7-3
Oshkosh 6-4
La Crosse 6-8
Platteville 6-8
Stout 4-8
Superior 2-8

With Stevens Point's four game sweep of La Crosse, I would be really surprised if any team not named Whitewater, Stevens Point or Oshkosh earned a berth in the Conference Tournament this season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 19, 2011, 09:46:40 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 18, 2011, 10:57:56 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 18, 2011, 08:36:09 PM
Last year the games had to made up by Monday.  It seems that rule changes about every year or two and I'm not sure what it is this year.

Wasn't there a situation a few years ago where Point was unable to get their Superior games on the books and it ended up costing them in terms of the conference standings?  Was that the year that the missed games counted as losses for the teams involved?
Not sure about Point, but I know in 2003 Oshkosh ended up "losing" four games after they had a pair of DH's against La Crosse and Superior rained out.  Oshkosh finished 17-3, but adding those four losses (Platteville and Superior combined to go 9-36 that season) put them at 17-7, while Whitewater went 19-5 and "won" the WIAC Championship.  A few weeks later Oshkosh beat Whitewater to win the Midwest Regional and a berth in the College World Series, so I guess when it was actually played on the field, the results were a bit different.

I believe because of the 2003 season, the standings are now based on the winning percentage of the games that were played, instead of counting them as losses.

Now that you mention it I think that was the situation that I was thinking of.  I just got my teams mixed up.  Thanks for setting it straight.  I had a hunch that you would recall it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 19, 2011, 02:04:34 PM
The string of Oshkosh pitchers winning the WIAC pitcher of the Week Award ends at four weeks this week.   Stevens Point's Scott Williams wins the award after a 10-2 victory over UW-Oshkosh. He pitched a complete game, giving up two runs (both earned) while scattering three hits.

Just for the sake of comparison, Oshkosh's nominee Rubens also threw a complete game giving up just one run (unearned) in a 3-1 victory over Stevens Point.  With Rubens already winning the award twice this season, I would have voted for Williams this week as well.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 19, 2011, 11:00:41 PM
Quote from: szlongball on April 18, 2011, 11:19:50 PM
Winter Storm Watch for north of Madison goes into effect Tuesday night. Thinking there could be some games affected by the storm for the rest of the week.  Also congrats to Coach Bloom who got his 300th career win in the second game on Sunday.
What a coincidence.....  Coach Vodenlich got his 300th victory on Sunday in WHitewater's victory over Stout.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 19, 2011, 11:04:41 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 19, 2011, 11:00:41 PM
Quote from: szlongball on April 18, 2011, 11:19:50 PM
Winter Storm Watch for north of Madison goes into effect Tuesday night. Thinking there could be some games affected by the storm for the rest of the week.  Also congrats to Coach Bloom who got his 300th career win in the second game on Sunday.
What a coincidence.....  Coach Vodenlich got his 300th victory on Sunday in WHitewater's victory over Stout.
Would have thought he would have gotten it last year. But congrats anyway.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 20, 2011, 12:14:12 AM
Quote from: szlongball on April 19, 2011, 11:04:41 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 19, 2011, 11:00:41 PM
Quote from: szlongball on April 18, 2011, 11:19:50 PM
Winter Storm Watch for north of Madison goes into effect Tuesday night. Thinking there could be some games affected by the storm for the rest of the week.  Also congrats to Coach Bloom who got his 300th career win in the second game on Sunday.
What a coincidence.....  Coach Vodenlich got his 300th victory on Sunday in WHitewater's victory over Stout.
Would have thought he would have gotten it last year. But congrats anyway.
Whitewater would have had to win 60 games last season for Vode to get to 300..... 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: d32kidsplayen on April 20, 2011, 11:27:31 AM
Weather Reports look like Point will get two in at superior tomorrow- Friday looks iffy though.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 20, 2011, 07:18:14 PM
Whitewater took both games of a DH vs Edgewood today, 12-2 and 14-2 - 7 innings for both games.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 20, 2011, 08:12:39 PM
The WARHAWKS scored 3 runs in the third inning, four runs in the fifth and sixth innings and a single run in the seventh to take game one 12-2.  Matthew Roberts (1-1) pitched all seven innings surrendering single earned runs to Edgewood in the fifth and sixth on 7 hits while walking 1 and striking out 6.  Jeff Donovan paced the 14 hit offense going 3x3, scoring twice and driving in 4 RBI.  All of Donovan's hits were doubles which tied a school record for doubles in a single game that is held by six WARHAWKS including Donovan.  Andrew Eichstaedt (2x4, 3 RS, 2 RBI), Jared Fon (2x3, 1 RS, 2 RBI, double) and Dan Putnam (2x4) had multiple hits.  Logan Peot (double), Rob Coe and Ryan Leavitt all had an RBI. 

The WARHAWKS started fast in game two scoring a pair of runs in the first inning and adding 7 more in the second.  They added two runs in the fourth and fifth and a single run in the sixth to take game two 14-2.  Edgewood's runs game in the fourth and fifth.  Tom Kerndt (1-0) pitched six innings scattering 6 hits for 2 runs (1 earned) while walking 2 and striking out 3.  Justin Mortensen pitched a hitless seventh inning striking out one.  Donovan paced the 11 hit offense going 3x3, (2 RS, 3 RBI, double).  Fon drove in 4 runs going 2x3 (double) and Bauer had a multiple hit game going 2x3 (1 RS, 1 RBI).  Coe, Eichstaedt and Putnam all had an RBI. 

Due to a bomb scare closing Williams Center the WARHAWKS didn't have access to any of their current uniforms so the team wore throw back uniforms from 2003.  The uniform shirts and pants had slight color differences so they had never been worn.  It was odd seeing everyone in stirrup socks and high water pants. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanBystander on April 21, 2011, 09:31:20 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 20, 2011, 08:12:39 PM
Due to a bomb scare closing Williams Center ...
It was odd seeing everyone in stirrup socks and high water pants. 

SERIOUSLY?  Wow - back in the day ('80s) if we didn't want to go to class, we just didn't go.  Bomb scares were a relic of the '70s or are reserved for UW-Madison.   

High water pants & stirrups = Classy...the way things SHOULD be.  Pants down over the heels of your shoes are yet another reason to dislike Barry Bonds.   

Let's hope the weather breaks sometime soon so we can get a full slate of games in & not have to rely on the "missed games" rules that the WIAC has in place.  Speaking of which, I don't think anyone posted what the current rules are.  Anyone?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: forheavendial4999 on April 21, 2011, 09:43:29 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 20, 2011, 08:12:39 PM

Due to a bomb scare closing Williams Center the WARHAWKS didn't have access to any of their current uniforms so the team wore throw back uniforms from 2003.  The uniform shirts and pants had slight color differences so they had never been worn.  It was odd seeing everyone in stirrup socks and high water pants. 
I'll take games for which I'm glad I wasn't the official scorer for $100.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 21, 2011, 04:20:17 PM
LaCrosse over Platteville 3-1 in game 1.  Interesting on live stats said Running left game with injury wonder how severe.  Oshkosh up 6-3 in bottom of 9th at Stout.  No update on Point-Superior.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 21, 2011, 04:30:34 PM
Stout ties is up at 6.  This would be tragic for Oshkosk if they blow it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 21, 2011, 04:38:23 PM
Former Pointer Schoch with game winning 2 RBI single as Stout takes game 1 7-6.  I'm sure happy Point has Stout at home their a lot better than I thought.  They have 2-3 first teamers on that squad.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 21, 2011, 04:45:11 PM
Game #1 Results
La Crosse 3
Platteville 1

Running and Lauersdorf combine on a 6-hitter, while striking out nine.  A couple of injuries to keep an eye on however. Running left with in the 7th inning following a strikeout.  Also, Fanta was replaced at first base with two outs in the 9th inning following a groundout to 2nd base.  He has been the Eagles top hitter all season, as he entered today with a .400 average.

Stout 7
Oshkosh 6

Stout scores four runs in the 9th inning to pull out the victory.  With Oshkosh up 6-3, a ground ball back to the pitcher for a double play ended up being catcher interference.  Instead of two outs and nobody on, ends up being first and second and nobody out.   Three hits and a HBP later snd Stout puts four on the board for the victory.  Oshkosh nearly wiggled out of it, as they led 6-5 with 2nd and 3rd and one out.  Murphy came on in relief and got a strike out for the second out, but then a HBP loaded the bases, and Schoch drove a two-run single to the outfield for the victory.  Smolinski absolutely owned Schreiber, as he was 3x4 with a 2B, HR, and 4 RBI's.  (The one time he did get him out was when he hit into an RBI FC in the 9th inning when the score was 6-3 and the Blue Devils had the bases loaded with nobody out.)

Stevens Point 10
Superior 6

No details....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 21, 2011, 04:46:32 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 21, 2011, 04:30:34 PM
Stout ties is up at 6.  This would be tragic for Oshkosk if they blow it.
It was never tied at 6....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 21, 2011, 04:47:59 PM
Live stats had an error and that's when I had posted.  I realized the misstake after posting it.  I've found out live stats is wrong a lot.  It had Murphy entering the game to pitch in the 9th.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 21, 2011, 06:21:47 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 21, 2011, 04:47:59 PM
Live stats had an error and that's when I had posted.  I realized the misstake after posting it.  I've found out live stats is wrong a lot.  It had Murphy entering the game to pitch in the 9th.
Which he did....  He threw the wild pitch, struck a batter out, hit a batter, and gave up the game winning single.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 21, 2011, 08:06:31 PM
What's going on with Tincher?  Is he being overused or what?  Anyone have update on Pointers?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 21, 2011, 08:07:50 PM
Game #2 Results
Oshkosh 7
Stout 6

Stout scores four runs in the 9th inning again, but this time it's not enough, as Mrkvicka gets a groundout to end the game with runners on 1st and 2nd.  Schoch picks up where he left off in Game 1 going 4x5 to lead the Blue Devils.

La Crosse 7
Platteville 4

No details......

Stevens Point 7
Superior 2

Point scores four runs in the 9th inning to open things up.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 21, 2011, 08:11:18 PM
Thanks for update on Point.  They had to have thrown Koback and Wendorf/Seidl with Delorit and Williams both going on Monday I would guess.  Hard to say if any games will go on the next two days.  Oshkosh could have kissed their season goodbye had they blown another lead in the 9th but is still sitting good.  Glad to see Schoch producing for Stout he was a really solid freshman who got decent playing time at Point but there was just no permanent room for him in the lineup. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 21, 2011, 08:13:35 PM
WIAC Standings Through April 21st
Whitewater 11-3
Stevens Point 9-3
Oshkosh 7-5
La Crosse 8-8
Platteville 6-10
Stout 5-9
Superior 2-10
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 21, 2011, 08:16:03 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 21, 2011, 08:11:18 PM
Thanks for update on Point.  They had to have thrown Koback and Wendorf/Seidl with Delorit and Williams both going on Monday I would guess.  Hard to say if any games will go on the next two days.  Oshkosh could have kissed their season goodbye had they blown another lead in the 9th but is still sitting good.  Glad to see Schoch producing for Stout he was a really solid freshman who got decent playing time at Point but there was just no permanent room for him in the lineup. 
Everyone is probably hoping to get the games in tomorrow, as it would give the pitchers four days off before Wednesday, instead of three if they end up playing Saturday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 21, 2011, 08:21:41 PM
The WARHAWKS and 25th ranked Concordia-Illinois played a back and forth game that was eventually won by the WARHAWKS 7-6.  WHITEWATER jumped in front with a pair of runs in the bottom of the first but Concordia answered with a pair of their own in their second at bat and took a 3-2 lead with a run in the third.  The WARHAWKS regained the lead with a pair of runs in their third at bat.  Concordia tied it with a run in the fourth but WHITEWATER retook the lead with another run in their half of the fourth.  Concordia took their final lead, 6-5, with two runs in the sixth.  In the bottom of the seventh Sam Keller was walked and advanced to third on a Jared Fon double.  Matt Beyer's sac fly scored Keller and Dylan Friend singled in Fon with the game winning run.

Riley Tincher got the start but struggled giving up 11 hits and 5 earned runs with a walk and two strikeouts before being relieved by Justin Lambert after 4 innings.  Lambert (4-1) got the win going 4.1 innings surrendering 2 hits, 1 earned run with 3 walks and 3 strikeouts.  Jeff Donovan picked up a save getting a strikeout and ground out in his .2 inning.  

Beyer (1x2, 1 RS, 2 RBI, Home Run), Keller (2x3, 1 RS, 2 RBI, Double, Triple) and Coe (1x3) each had a pair of RBI.  Dan Putnam (2x4, 1 RS) and Andrew Eichstaedt (2x2, 2 RS, Double) had multiple hits.  
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 21, 2011, 08:25:27 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 21, 2011, 08:21:41 PM
Riley Tincher got the start but struggled giving up 11 hits and 5 earned runs with a walk and two strikeouts before being relieved by Justin Lambert after 4 innings.
That's two outings in a row where he has gotten hit around pretty hard....  Are all of the outings on short rest starting to catch up to him?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 21, 2011, 10:25:41 PM
Call me crazy but I think Whitewater should shut him down for a start or two.  They will make the WIAC tournament regardless and will get an at large for regionals even if they don't win conference.  What would you rather have Tincher at close to 100% for regionals or Tincher getting overused and be no factor come regionals?  It has to be fatigue a pitcher of his caliber doesn't get rocked by Stout and Concordia.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 22, 2011, 10:18:48 AM
Excuse me for changing sports but WARHAWKS softball coach Brenda Volk achieved a significant milestone yesterday when the team's two wins over Platteville, 4-3, 9-1, made her the all time WIAC leader in wins.  In her 13th season Coach Volk has amassed a won-loss record of 385-168-4. 

Shine Time you're crazy. ;)   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 22, 2011, 04:55:08 PM
Game #1 Results
Oshkosh 6
Stout 1

Luke Westphal with the complete game victory to improve his record to 4-0 in five starts.  He also lowered his WIAC leading ERA to 1.35.

La Crosse 19
Platteville 5   (7 Innings)

No details......

Stevens Point 10
Superior 2

No details.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 22, 2011, 05:15:06 PM
Clintonville has produced some solid ballplayers over the years.  Wiley is starting at Platteville, Jirschele at Point, and Westphal for the titans.  Wasn't there another Wiley that was really good at baseball?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 22, 2011, 05:19:01 PM
Check the Platteville live stats....  They are both playing right now, as both entered in the 6th inning.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: brewcrew2008 on April 22, 2011, 05:52:47 PM
Point loses in Superior 12-2...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 22, 2011, 06:30:48 PM
Did Delorit pitch the game they lost 12-2 or Williams?  That's a shocker especially by 10.  I could've seen them losing 4-3 or something but wow.  That's a bad loss.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: brewcrew2008 on April 22, 2011, 06:34:56 PM
Delorit threw the 2nd game, should be interesting to see the stats on the game although playing in Superior it might be awhile before that happens
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 22, 2011, 06:43:48 PM
Game #2 Results
Oshkosh 8
Stout 5

Troy Mrkvicka bounces back well after getting roughed up at Point last week, and gives up two runs in seven innings of relief to pick up the victory.  The top four hitters each have two hits for the Titans and Fadness adds three more stolen bases to his total.  

La Crosse 9
Platteville 3

Platteville kicks it around committing six errors in the field which led to unearned runs for La Crosse.  Scray is impressive on the mound for the Eagles limiting the Pioneers to two runs (both unearned) on six hits.

Superior 12
Stevens Point 2

No details....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 22, 2011, 06:48:15 PM
I really thought Delorit was completely back to last years form.  Point has a history of dominating a series and finding a way to lose that last game.  I believe it was three yrs ago when they score nearly 30 runs and lost the next game to Stout.  Either way it's pretty clear there's not a dominate team this year in the WIAC and anyone can beat anyone on any given day.  Will be interesting to see the Whitewater-Oshkosh series.  I would hope Point can take all 4 at Platteville next weekend but I'm only counting on 3.  Point vs Oshkosh is going to be big time.  Did Reubens even pitch against Stout?  Is he just getting a little rest coming off Tommy or is he hurt?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 22, 2011, 07:04:07 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 22, 2011, 04:55:08 PM
Game #1 Results
Oshkosh 6
Stout 1

Luke Westphal with the complete game victory to improve his record to 4-0 in five starts.  He also lowered his WIAC leading ERA to 1.35.
One thing that I should have added to this was that Westphal struck out 16 Blue Devils, which is the 4th highest total in WIAC history.  (Former Warhawk Greg Reinhard holds the record with 19.)  That number is impressive in itself, but to see him do that against a team that was swinging the bats as well as Stout was makes it even more impressive.  The run he gave up was unearned, so his ERA actually dropped to 1.08 on the season.  Pretty good chance that he will be the 4th different UWO pitcher to earn WIAC Pitcher of the Week honors early next week.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 22, 2011, 07:16:09 PM
WIAC Standings Through April 22nd
Whitewater 11-3
Stevens Point 10-4
Oshkosh 9-5
La Crosse 10-8
Platteville 6-12
Stout 5-11
Superior 3-11

Some GREAT games coming up this week with Oshkosh traveling to Point for a midweek DH, and then hosting Whitewater for a pair of DH's.  The results could go a long way in figuring out the seeding for this years WIAC Tournament.  A poor week by Oshksoh, and La Crosse could work their way back into the picture as well, as they have the weekend off. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 22, 2011, 08:47:17 PM
Stats are up for Point- Superior.  Williams went distance in game 1 and struck out 15.  Delorit only gave up 2 earned so one can't blame him.  Looks like Seidl struggled with control again.  Why can Douglas pinch run but not play field?  It's going to be difficult to bench Barnes now he's on fire.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 22, 2011, 10:27:43 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 22, 2011, 05:15:06 PM
Clintonville has produced some solid ballplayers over the years.  Wiley is starting at Platteville, Jirschele at Point, and Westphal for the titans.  Wasn't there another Wiley that was really good at baseball?
Clintonville also produce Carthage's two-time all-American 3B(and Phillies draft pick) Dean Muthing in the late 90s
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 22, 2011, 11:53:48 PM
I'm not going to question Coach Bloom's decisions, as he has a great track record in having his guys ready to play, especially when the post-season rolls around.  However, when I look at the boxscore from today, all I can do is scratch my head.  Tuschen goes 4x4 in Game #1, yet doesn't see the field until the 8th inning in Game #2 when he enters as a pinch hitter.  Why not keep a hot stick in the line-up?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 23, 2011, 03:57:53 AM
The only thing I can think of is he has too many players to keep happy.  He wants to get Thomas in the lineup with his bat so therefore Jirsch goes to 2nd taking Tuschin out.  When Douglas is healthy he wants his bat in the lineup so he puts him at 2nd one of the 2.  IMO the biggest thing Point needs to get over the hump is for either Seidl or Van Beck to pitch to their ability and just throw strikes.  Both have excellent velocity/movement but struggle at times to find the strike zone.  Williams is in a zone right now and I still think Delorit is a warmer weather pitcher.  What is wrong with Reubens or why didn't he pitch this week against Stout?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 23, 2011, 04:21:28 AM
Dean Muthig was a nice name to here.  One of the highlights of my baseball career was striking him out in legion.  He was the best players I ever played against.  Let's add Jon Dunlavy(Ripon) and Jeremy Jirschele(Oshkosh) to the list of former Clintonville players that had very good college careers.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 23, 2011, 10:25:27 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 22, 2011, 08:47:17 PM
  Why can Douglas pinch run but not play field?  .

I don't know what the issue is with Douglas but one reason he can pinch run and not play in the field is his arm/shoulder.  He doesn't use it much to run but needs them in the field.  Perhaps that is the problem. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 27, 2011, 12:13:34 PM
Curious to see what the pitching match-ups will look like today in the Point/Oshkosh DH.  If you are Bloom/Lechnir do you throw Williams/Delorit and Schreiber/Rubens again, or do you give the opponent a different look? 

I can see the argument both ways.  In one case you want to put your best out there today in order to win, but on the other hand you may want to go with your #3 and #4 because you don't want the opponent to see the same pitcher for a potential 3rd time in the WIAC Tournament when your season may be on the line.

I'll also be curious to see what Whitewater does with Tincher.  Do they give him the extra rest and not have him throw until this weekend in Oshkosh, or do you throw him against Platteville today.

Should be interesting to see what happens in both cases......
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on April 27, 2011, 03:17:28 PM
Can anyone provide highlights of the Point v Oshkosh DH.  No live stats is a downer.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 27, 2011, 03:18:09 PM
Well I can answer part of the equation....  Oshkosh starts their #7 Sean Grabig.  

Point leads 5-0 in the Top of the 4th inning.  Nice to see Point's Live Stats are non-existent once again today.   >:(
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 27, 2011, 03:26:05 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 27, 2011, 03:18:09 PM
Point leads 5-0 in the Top of the 4th inning.  Nice to see Point's Live Stats are non-existent once again today.   >:(

Been working just fine for me all along. 7-0 Point now after 5.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 27, 2011, 03:32:20 PM
Thanks!!!  I had finally gave up, since all I was getting was the game from two weeks ago against Oshkosh.

Williams cruising against Oshkosh once again.  Just two hits and an unearned run allowed through 6 innings.

Point leads 7-1.  Gerber and Jirschele with three hits apiece.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: brewcrew2008 on April 27, 2011, 07:24:03 PM
Point goes on to win game win 11-2 and cruises in game two winning 10-0. Cody Koback goes the distance in the 2nd game to follow up another good performance from Scott Williams in game 1. Justin Jirschele provides all the offense Point would need in the 2nd game with home runs in the 1st and 3rd innings. I missed the first game but interesting to see Point's lineup for the 2nd game with Fritz down in the 7 spot, never bad to have the reigning player of the year batting 7th.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 27, 2011, 07:36:50 PM
Oshkosh is all of a sudden in a lot of trouble.  No Reubens this past weekend or today leads me to believe he's injured.  I believe they have Whitewater coming up at home so they'll have to regroup quickly and try to get a split.  Point's lineup is playing very well right now but they may have to go 8-0 or 7-1 in their next 8 WIAC games to win the title.  I wish Jirsch would've had the 2 HRS the last time I predicted he would but I'll take it.  One thing Oshkosh has going if they finish 3rd and Point 2nd is that Point has not seen Westphal this season and I could see Point struggling with him.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 27, 2011, 09:55:34 PM
UWW takes two from Platteville today 12-2 (7 innings) in game 1. Game two went into extra innings with the Warhawks scratching out a 7-6 win in 10.

Tincher earned his 6th win in game 1. He gave up 2 unearned runs in the top of the first on Cody Luther's lead off single and 2 Warhawk errors. He gave up just 1 more hit, a single in the 3rd, before departing with a 9-0 lead heading into the 6th inning. Two walks and 3 SO's completed Tincher's line for the game. Justin Lambert finished up with 2 innings of no hit relief. Rob Coe was the offensive star of the game for the Warhawks getting 4 singles in 5 at bats, 2 RBI's and 2 runs scored. Putnam, Eichstaedt, Donovan, and Friend all contributed 2 hits each. Putnam scored 3 times and Friend knocked in 3.

Game two saw the Warhawks move out to a 5-1 lead after 4. However, Pioneers scored 4 in the top of the 5th, highlighted by a 3 run single and throwing error by Coe, to tie the game at 5. It remained tied until each team scored a single run in the 9th to take it to extra innings. Platteville had a single with 2 gone in the top of the inning and advanced as far as 2nd before being stranded. In the bottom half of the 10th, Beyer singled with 1 out, stole a base and scored following an intentional walk to Putnam when Eichstaedt reached on an error by the losing pitcher Oppriecht. Matthew Roberts relieved Jeff Donovan for the 10th and got the win for the warhawks.

Up next is a big weekend in Oshkosh.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: GBMAN on April 27, 2011, 10:19:54 PM
I was at the Whitewater DH and the second game was a barn burner to say the least.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 27, 2011, 10:26:41 PM
Standings after today:

UW-Whitewater      13-3
UW-Stevens Point  12-4
UW-Oshkosh           9-7
UW-La Crosse        11-9
UW-Stout              5-11
UW-Platteville        6-14
UW-Superior          4-12
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 27, 2011, 10:58:00 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 27, 2011, 07:36:50 PM
Oshkosh is all of a sudden in a lot of trouble.  No Reubens this past weekend or today leads me to believe he's injured.  I believe they have Whitewater coming up at home so they'll have to regroup quickly and try to get a split.  Point's lineup is playing very well right now but they may have to go 8-0 or 7-1 in their next 8 WIAC games to win the title.  I wish Jirsch would've had the 2 HRS the last time I predicted he would but I'll take it.  One thing Oshkosh has going if they finish 3rd and Point 2nd is that Point has not seen Westphal this season and I could see Point struggling with him.
Getting swept today definitely hurts, but not as bad as it could have had been, thanks to Superior and La Crosse splitting their DH.  Worst case scenario for the Titans is if they lose all four to Whitewater this weekend.  They would be two games behind La Crosse going into the final weekend of WIAC play.  Oshkosh would have the better match-up the final weekend however, as they play Superior for 4 games, while La Crosse travels to Whitewater, with the Warhawks playing for a Regular Season Championship and the right to host the WIAC Tournament.

As far as the match-ups today, it appeared one team was playing to win and trying to stay in contention for the regular season title, while the other one was trying to playing for a split.  About the only positive thing on the Oshkosh side today was that they will have Rubens, Westpahl, and Wells on full rest when they host Whitewater this weekend.

Impressive thing about Jirschele's two HR's today, was he jumped on a first pitch fastball in at-bat #1, and a first pitch hanging slider in at-bat #2.  Two completely different pitches, but the same result.  The second HR was the better swing, as it was on a line, and never got more that 35-40 feet off the ground.

Point's defense was solid today, turning five double plays on Game #1, which shut down just about every scoring opportunity Oshkosh had.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 28, 2011, 07:39:52 AM
Can anyone list a school in D3 that has had a better stretch of 1rst baseman that UWSP?  Peetz,  Jones, Wiczek, Evanoff, Richter, and now Gerber.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 28, 2011, 08:27:54 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 28, 2011, 07:39:52 AM
Can anyone list a school in D3 that has had a better stretch of 1rst baseman that UWSP?  Peetz,  Jones, Wiczek, Evanoff, Richter, and now Gerber.
Can I ask why you put Wiczek on the list?  The one season that he played significantly was at DH, not 1B.....  Ryan Jones was the strting 1B in 2005.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 28, 2011, 09:54:58 AM
Quote from: GBMAN on April 27, 2011, 10:19:54 PM
I was at the Whitewater DH and the second game was a barn burner to say the least.....

The game was definitive proof that sometimes you are better lucky than good.  

The double HEADER scheduled with Saint Scholasticia will be a pair of 7 inning games.  


that one is for you, Big Poppa
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 28, 2011, 10:11:49 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 28, 2011, 07:39:52 AM
Can anyone list a school in D3 that has had a better stretch of 1rst baseman that UWSP?  Peetz,  Jones, Wiczek, Evanoff, Richter, and now Gerber.


Brady Endl, Eddie Adamson, Eric Baldwin and Jeff Donovan have been pretty decent. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2011, 11:24:21 AM
I'm interested to see the pitcihng match-ups for this weekends four game series between Oshkosh and Whitewater.  I would assume with Tincher and Donovan throwing on Wednesday, they will both come back and start on Sunday.  That would mean Lambert and Lee would more than likely get the starts on Saturday.  If you are Oshkosh, do you match-up your two most consistent pitchers (Rubens and Westphal) with Tincher and Donovan on Sunday, or do you throw them on Saturday against the Warhawks #3 and #4?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: voice on April 29, 2011, 12:13:56 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 29, 2011, 11:24:21 AM
I'm interested to see the pitcihng match-ups for this weekends four game series between Oshkosh and Whitewater.  I would assume with Tincher and Donovan throwing on Wednesday, they will both come back and start on Sunday.  That would mean Lambert and Lee would more than likely get the starts on Saturday.  If you are Oshkosh, do you match-up your two most consistent pitchers (Rubens and Westphal) with Tincher and Donovan on Sunday, or do you throw them on Saturday against the Warhawks #3 and #4?

Is Ruebens even in the mix??
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 30, 2011, 06:27:53 PM
So the Titans have some fight left. Oshkosh won two over Whitewater today, 4-1 and 5-4. UWO scored two in the ninth in Game 2. The last run scored on an error with one out.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 30, 2011, 09:42:03 PM
Being a Pointer fan I was excited to see Oshkosh won both today.  I'm hoping they can take 1 of 2 tomorrow but Whitewater will have their big dogs going.  What is going on with Reubens?  Point won both today at Platteville 9-4 and 15-3 in 7.  Delorit had a strong outing going 8 innings and striking out 9.  Casey Barnes continues to tear it up ever since becoming the every day LF hitting a grand slam and having 3 hits in the 2nd game.  If Point can take both tomorrow and Whitewater loses 1 they should be sitting good for hosting the WIAC tourney.  
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 01, 2011, 01:21:47 AM
First of all, whoever is acting like a third grader and dinging my karma everyday, it's starting to get a little annoying.  If you have a problem with my posts, at least be big enough to call me out about it.  I have no problem defending my opinions, and trying to explain my comments for those who disagree with me.....

Ok, now that I have that taken care of, lets move on to today's DH at Oshkosh.  For those who decided to brave the 25 mph winds, you got to see two well pitched games by both teams. 

Game #1
Luke Westphal literally battled through about the first five innings without his best stuff.  However once Oshkosh scored three runs in the bottom of the 5th inning to take a 3-1 lead, and Rubens walked down to the bullpen, it was as if he became a different pitcher for the final four innings.  His curveball was sharper, he was locating better, and the results showed, as he allowed just a pair of two out singles the rest of the way.  If I didn't know any better, it almost appeared Westphal said this is my game and nobody is relieving me.  There were two balls that were absolutley CRUSHED in Game #1-Donovan's SAC FLY to CF, which went about 380 into the teeth of the wind, and Kamps two run triple to center in the 5th inning that landed about 385-390 feet from home plate, again into the teeth of the wind.  With the win, Westphal improved to 5-0, and actually lowered his WIAC leading ERA to 1.06.  Today's game was evidence that he has truly taken the next step in his progression as a pitcher.  The Whitewater line-up that he went through is as solid as it gets #1-9.

Game #2
You could tell right away during warm-ups that Rubens wasn't the same pitcher that the WIAC has grown accustomed to seeing pitch.  His motion looked completely different, and there just wasn't much on the ball.  Whitewater scored two in the first to take a 2-0 lead.  Wells came on in the 2nd inning, (Rubens tried to take the mound and was stopped by Lechnir about 10 steps outside the dugout) and pitched pretty effectively.  Outside of walking the #9 hitter on four straight pitches in Whitewater's two run 5th inning, he pounded the strike zone and was ahead in the count most of the game.  However, I was actually more impressed with Matt Roberts.  He stayed down in the zone the entire game, and Oshkosh never really squared one up off of him all game.  Unless it was a pitch count issue, I couldn't understand why he was pulled.  Both Kerndt and Coe were one-pitch pitchers (fastball) and Oshkosh took advantage of it.  Hiroskey's double to left off of Kerndt would have been a game-tying two-run HR on any other day.  Coe did a nice job of limiting Oshkosh to just one run in the 8th inning as he inherited 2nd and 3rd with one out.  The 9th inning saw the lead-off walk cause issues again, as Kachel got the rally started with his secod walk of the game.  Following a sac bunt, Fadness hit a sinking liner to center which caused the pinch-runner to have to freeze, making him stop at 3rd.  After a wild pitch moved Fadness to 2nd, Whitewater decided to bring the infield in which allowed Kamps ground ball to turn into a diving attempt/stop instead of a routine grounder for the 2nd out of the inning.  As the second baseman tried to recover and get an out, he threw wild which allowed Fadness to score from 2nd for the win.  Before the ball was put in play were questioning Whitewater's decision to bring the IF in, as it was only tying run at 3rd and not the go-ahead run.  The only thing we could come up with was that Whitewater was limited in the bullpen and didn't have anyone they felt comfortbale with if the game went extra-innings.

Whitewater definitely has the advantage as they head into tomorrow, with their #1 and #2 (Tincher and Donovan) ready to go.  Oshkosh will likely send Schriber to the mound in one game, and either Mrkvicka or Murphy in the other.  If Oshkosh could manage to get a split tomorrow, they would have to be pleased with taking 3 out of 4 from the #1 team in the Midwest Region.  It would be interesting to see what a 3-3 week against the #1 and #2 teams in the Midwest Region would do to their Regional Ranking.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 01, 2011, 01:30:58 AM
Standings Through April 30th
Stevens Point  14-4
Whitewater     13-5
Oshkosh         11-7
La Crosse        11-9
Stout              5-11
Platteville        6-16
Superior          4-12

Stout/Superior PPD due to wet field conditions and will try to make it up on Monday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on May 01, 2011, 09:34:04 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 01, 2011, 01:21:47 AM
It would be interesting to see what a 3-3 week against the #1 and #2 teams in the Midwest Region would do to their Regional Ranking.

I agree, it's going to be interesting.  Point will be #1 and I'd look for Oshkosh to move Olaf out of the top 6.  Almost all the MIAC series have been moved to today, and with Olaf all but officially out of the MIAC tourney, I can't see them staying in the rankings, even if they sweep St. Thomas today.  The Tommies have the #1 SOS in the country now, so if they sweep, I'll bet they move into the top 6 as well.  Who gets pushed out though?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 01, 2011, 10:09:40 AM
Quote from: biggio34 on May 01, 2011, 09:34:04 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 01, 2011, 01:21:47 AM
It would be interesting to see what a 3-3 week against the #1 and #2 teams in the Midwest Region would do to their Regional Ranking.

I agree, it's going to be interesting.  Point will be #1 and I'd look for Oshkosh to move Olaf out of the top 6.  Almost all the MIAC series have been moved to today, and with Olaf all but officially out of the MIAC tourney, I can't see them staying in the rankings, even if they sweep St. Thomas today.  The Tommies have the #1 SOS in the country now, so if they sweep, I'll bet they move into the top 6 as well.  Who gets pushed out though?
Not sure Olaf will get bumped this week. If the Oles sweep, I actually see them moving up. Olaf's SOS will jump to the high .500's after playing UST. A high .500's SOS would be around the top 10 in the country.

Even if Olaf is 18-11 in-region with a DH loss to UST, the SOS makes for a strong case to be ranked again, pending other results of course. The Midwest committee has been consistently clear in the past that it likes seeing high SOS numbers.

Not that anyone asked, but I agree with the MW committee's approach. I think the MW rankings, with rare exception, have been spot-on for several years. Even when I have a quibble, I know why the committee did what it did. When I see the Central rankings (and some others) I sometimes, sometimes don't understand them even after looking for plausibility hidden in the numbers. We don't often have that in the Midwest. We know what it takes to get ranked around here. It's been that way since the first regional rankings under the new-ish system. Play your best schedule within reason, and you'll be rewarded if you do well.

Sorry about the tangent, but I think we have a committee that does a great, often thankless job.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on May 01, 2011, 10:24:50 AM
Quote from: OshDude on May 01, 2011, 10:09:40 AM
Quote from: biggio34 on May 01, 2011, 09:34:04 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 01, 2011, 01:21:47 AM
It would be interesting to see what a 3-3 week against the #1 and #2 teams in the Midwest Region would do to their Regional Ranking.

I agree, it's going to be interesting.  Point will be #1 and I'd look for Oshkosh to move Olaf out of the top 6.  Almost all the MIAC series have been moved to today, and with Olaf all but officially out of the MIAC tourney, I can't see them staying in the rankings, even if they sweep St. Thomas today.  The Tommies have the #1 SOS in the country now, so if they sweep, I'll bet they move into the top 6 as well.  Who gets pushed out though?
Not sure Olaf will get bumped this week. If the Oles sweep, I actually see them moving up. Olaf's SOS will jump to the high .500's after playing UST. A high .500's SOS would be around the top 10 in the country.

Even if Olaf is 18-11 in-region with a DH loss to UST, the SOS makes for a strong case to be ranked again, pending other results of course. The Midwest committee has been consistently clear in the past that it likes seeing high SOS numbers.

Not that anyone asked, but I agree with the MW committee's approach. I think the MW rankings, with rare exception, have been spot-on for several years. Even when I have a quibble, I know why the committee did what it did. When I see the Central rankings (and some others) I sometimes, sometimes don't understand them even after looking for plausibility hidden in the numbers. We don't often have that in the Midwest. We know what it takes to get ranked around here. It's been that way since the first regional rankings under the new-ish system. Play your best schedule within reason, and you'll be rewarded if you do well.

Sorry about the tangent, but I think we have a committee that does a great, often thankless job.

The tangent is appreciated, well said, and its hard to argue with your point.  I think its frustrating for other teams on the bubble to see a team like Olaf ranked ahead of them, when they are currently playing well, and Olaf is struggling.  The criteria is the criteria, and you are probably correct.  I personally don't agree with ranking a team who is not in the top 3 or 4 of their league, but that's how it is, and everyone knows it going into the season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 01, 2011, 11:11:41 AM
Granted it also helps if your conference ends in IAC. There's a built-in security knowing your numbers won't be damaged by playing forced competition. Even with some dings from the bottom, teams from the WIAC, MIAC and IIAC are set up to succeed before the first pitch of the season.

If there were a mid-major level between the divide, the yearly regional eventualities (MIAC and WIAC dominate MW rankings, CCIW and IIAC dominate C rankings) wouldn't be so pronounced. But it's a meritocracy when a team like BLC can prove to be a reliable opponent and improve its SOS by leaps and bounds from a few seasons ago.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scrapper on May 01, 2011, 11:37:29 AM
Don' t really understand the logic that Olaf could still be ranked even with a DH loss to St Thomas just because it will help their SOS.  Totally illogical.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 01, 2011, 11:45:41 AM
Quote from: scrapper on May 01, 2011, 11:37:29 AM
Don' t really understand the logic that Olaf could still be ranked even with a DH loss to St Thomas just because it will help their SOS.  Totally illogical.
Maybe incorrect, but not illogical. It's a body of work up to a certain point, not a snapshot of weekly results. You may be right that a DH loss to UST would put SOC outside the top six. All I wrote is, pending other results, 18-11 with a very high SOS may be enough to remain in the rankings. I think that's plausible.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scrapper on May 01, 2011, 01:37:12 PM
Incorrect,illogical or whatever words you want to use, if St Thomas sweeps St Olaf they should be rated higher than ST OLAF along with Oshkosh,BLC and others.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 01, 2011, 02:38:02 PM
Whitewater is putting a hurting on Oshkosh game 1 today.  What has happened to Oshkosh's pitching staff?  Reubens and Schreiber are both struggling and the only guy who appears consistent is Westphal.  Hopefully Schreiber will save the day and go at least 7 strong in game 2.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 01, 2011, 03:32:38 PM
19-2 final in 7 innings.  WARHAWKS score in every inning except the 4th.
Tincher goes the distance.  7 hits, 2 runs, 1 earned, 3 walks, 2 strikeouts.
Coe, Wessels, Beyer and Donovan hit home runs.
Putnam (1), Coe (1), Donovan (3), Keller (2), Fon (1), Beyer (3) and Wessels (4) with RBI.

It would have been nice to have some of this offense yesterday.


Game two:

WARHAWKS 6  Oshkosh 4
Donovan gets the win going 6 innings, 8 hits, 3 runs (earned), 2 walks, 6 strikeouts
Schmidt, 2 innings, 2 hits, 1 run (earned), 2 strikeouts
Coe, 1 inning, 1 hit, 1 walk, 1 strikeout, save
Eichstaedt 3x5, Brent Young 2x3 home run
Coe (2), Dylan Friend (2), Young (1) RBI

This one was nip and tuck.  WHITEWATER led 3-0 but Oshkosh got a pair in the 6th.  The WARHAWKS answered with a pair in the seventh but Oshkosh got single runs in both the seventh and eighth.  The WARHAWKS got an insurance run in the ninth and the game ended with Oshkosh leaving runners on third and first. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: GBMAN on May 01, 2011, 06:34:23 PM
UW-W takes game 2 today.... 6-4...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 01, 2011, 07:28:13 PM
Quote from: biggio34 on May 01, 2011, 09:34:04 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 01, 2011, 01:21:47 AM
It would be interesting to see what a 3-3 week against the #1 and #2 teams in the Midwest Region would do to their Regional Ranking.
I agree, it's going to be interesting.  Point will be #1 and I'd look for Oshkosh to move Olaf out of the top 6.  Almost all the MIAC series have been moved to today, and with Olaf all but officially out of the MIAC tourney, I can't see them staying in the rankings, even if they sweep St. Thomas today.  The Tommies have the #1 SOS in the country now, so if they sweep, I'll bet they move into the top 6 as well.  Who gets pushed out though?
I don't think a 2-4 week is good enough to get Oshkosh into the rankings.  Had they won Game #2 today and went 3-3, I think they would have had an outside shot, as little as it may have been.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 01, 2011, 07:42:50 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 01, 2011, 02:38:02 PM
Whitewater is putting a hurting on Oshkosh game 1 today.  What has happened to Oshkosh's pitching staff?  Reubens and Schreiber are both struggling and the only guy who appears consistent is Westphal.  Hopefully Schreiber will save the day and go at least 7 strong in game 2.
Schreiber is struggling??  While he may have given up 6 runs in his 3.0 innings of work at Point on Wednesday, the numbers look worse than the actual pitching.  Two bad pitches to Jirschele cost him five of the six runs.  As for today against Whitewater, he threw a CG, giving up four earned runs.  While it's not a dominant outing, it's not terrible.

If Rubens can get back to where he was a couple of weeks ago, the foursome of Westphal-Schreiber-Rubens-Wells could still be good enough to win the WIAC Tournament, that is if if they can earn the #3 seed.  (I wouldn't wager any money on it because of the inconsistent offense and shaky defense however.)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 01, 2011, 07:51:21 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 01, 2011, 03:32:38 PM
Game two:

WARHAWKS 6  Oshkosh 4
Donovan gets the win going 6 innings, 8 hits, 3 runs (earned), 2 walks, 6 strikeouts
Schmidt, 2 innings, 2 hits, 1 run (earned), 2 strikeouts
Coe, 1 inning, 1 hit, 1 walk, 1 strikeout, save
Eichstaedt 3x5, Brent Young 2x3 home run
Coe (2), Dylan Friend (2), Young (1) RBI

This one was nip and tuck.  WHITEWATER led 3-0 but Oshkosh got a pair in the 6th.  The WARHAWKS answered with a pair in the seventh but Oshkosh got single runs in both the seventh and eighth.  The WARHAWKS got an insurance run in the ninth and the game ended with Oshkosh leaving runners on third and first.
In my opinion the double play Whitewater turned when Oshkosh had the bases loaded and one out in the 6th inning was the turning point of the game.  Instead of Oshkosh tying the game, Whitewater kept their lead and then used the momentun to tack on two runs on the Top of the 7th inning.  Had Oshkosh been able to tie it, maybe Uncle Mo carries them to a 3rd come-from-behind win this weekend. 

Regardless, it was nice to see Oshkosh bounce back twice this weekend.  I wasn't sure how things were going to go after Wednesday's pair of spankings against Point.  They came back yesterday and showed some life.  Then again today after getting it handed to them in Game #1, they came back in Game #2 and gave Whitewater a game, and were just one or two clutch hits away from pulling out a victory.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 01, 2011, 08:14:52 PM
Standings Through May 1st
*Stevens Point  16-4
Whitewater     15-5
Oshkosh         11-9
La Crosse        11-9
Stout              6-12
Superior          5-13
Platteville        6-18

*-Clinched WIAC Tournament berth

-Whitewater will clinch a WIAC Tournament berth win just one victory against La Crosse next weekend.

-Oshkosh needs to win as many games at Superior as La Crosse does against Whitewater to clinch a WIAC Tournament bid, as they hold tiebreaker with La Crosse due to their victory over Point..

-La Crosse needs to win one more game against Whitewater than Oshkosh does against Superior, as Oshkosh holds tie-breaker beating Point once while La Crosse was swept by Point.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 01, 2011, 10:11:11 PM
I noticed Koback only went 4 innings today in game 2.  Does anyone know if he's alright or are they just resting him a bit?  I see he stayed in as DH so I'm guessing it's not an injury.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 02, 2011, 03:35:23 PM
So with just one weekend left in the WIAC season, what are everyone's thoughts regarding the All Conference team?

I really think you have four pitchers that are "locks" at this point in the season.
-Donovan
-Westphal
-Williams
-Tincher

Then you have a couple of guys that are likely in consideration for a 1st Team spot in Rubens, Koback, Running and Verthein.  I would have put Rubens on the "lock" list a couple of weeks ago after beating Point, but he has only pitched one inning since then, so that may cause him to drop to the Honorable Mention list.

I'll give my hitter list later.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 02, 2011, 07:35:09 PM
Nick Bursick- Superior
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 02, 2011, 09:34:37 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 02, 2011, 07:35:09 PM
Nick Bursick- Superior
And his 2-4 record?  Sorry, but there are a handful of guys I would take before him.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 02, 2011, 10:47:31 PM
1-2 in the WIAC though with an ERA of 2.86.  I'm not saying he's 1rst team but he's one of the better unknown pitchers in the conference.  He mowed down Point this year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 02, 2011, 11:58:59 PM
Here's an interesting stat to chew on......

HR Totals For the 2011 Season to Date
Stevens Point-20
Whitewater-14
La Crosse-13
Stout-18
Superior-9
Platteville-8
Oshkosh-2

HR Totals in 1999
Oshkosh-24 (38 Games)
La Crosse-13 (34 Games)
Stevens Point-11 (41 Games)
Stout-9 (37 Games)
Whitewater-8 (40 Games)
Platteville-3 (39 Games)
Superior-1 (? Games)
(Listed as playing only 13 Games, but I'm sure that has more to do with missing stats than actual games that were played.)

Those of you that have been around long enough remember 1999 as the Wood Bat season.  Maybe Oshkosh should be swinging wood this year instead of the new BBCOR bats? ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 03, 2011, 07:17:59 AM
Having Blake Berger ineligible didn't help their cause for HR'S he would've had at least 5 I would guess.  Is he even going to try to play next year?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 03, 2011, 09:48:54 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 28, 2011, 10:11:49 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 28, 2011, 07:39:52 AM
Can anyone list a school in D3 that has had a better stretch of 1rst baseman that UWSP?  Peetz,  Jones, Wiczek, Evanoff, Richter, and now Gerber.


Brady Endl, Eddie Adamson, Eric Baldwin and Jeff Donovan have been pretty decent. 

I forgot to include Jeff Newcomer
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 03, 2011, 10:49:58 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 02, 2011, 11:58:59 PM
Here's an interesting stat to chew on......

HR Totals For the 2011 Season to Date
Stevens Point-20
Whitewater-14
La Crosse-13
Stout-18
Superior-9
Platteville-8
Oshkosh-2

HR Totals in 1999
Oshkosh-24 (38 Games)
La Crosse-13 (34 Games)
Stevens Point-11 (41 Games)
Stout-9 (37 Games)
Whitewater-8 (40 Games)
Platteville-3 (39 Games)
Superior-1 (? Games)
(Listed as playing only 13 Games, but I'm sure that has more to do with missing stats than actual games that were played.)

Those of you that have been around long enough remember 1999 as the Wood Bat season.  Maybe Oshkosh should be swinging wood this year instead of the new BBCOR bats? ;D

...rather than bring back the wood, maybe Oshkosh should time-warp to 2011 the Titans who hit the 24 dingers in 1999 instead...or the pitchers who gave up all those HR's...or a combination of both!!   ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 03, 2011, 07:01:02 PM
Game one:  WARHAWKS 3  St Scholastica 1

Jack Larson (1-0): 3.2 innings, 4 hits, 1 run (earned), 2 walks, 1 strikeout.
Kyle Lee S1: 3.1 innings,  1 hit, 0 runs, 1 walk, 2 strikeouts.

Jared Fon 2x2 1 RS, Dylan Friend 1x1, 2 RS, 2 RBI, home run, Andrew Bauer 1x2, 1 RBI


Game two: WHITEWATER 1  St Scholastica 2

Justin Mortensen (0-1): 5.1 innings, 5 hits, 2 runs (earned), 2 walks, 3 strikeouts
Matthew Roberts: .1 inning, 1 hit, 0 runs, walks, strikeouts
Eric Schmidt: 1.1 innings, 1 hit, 0 runs, 0 walks, 2 strikeouts

Jared Fon 2x3, 1 RBI

Two well pitched games on both sides.  WW scores two in the second inning of game one.  CSS gets one in the third. WW adds an insurance run on Friend's home run in the fifth. 

WW scores a run in the second inning of game two and it stands until the sixth when CSS scores a pair.  WW threatens in the seventh with runners on second and third with one out but can't get the clutch hit.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on May 04, 2011, 01:25:00 PM
Any word on the Roberts kid's arm? Listening to the CSS broadcast it sounded like he was hurt pretty badly.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 06, 2011, 06:58:41 PM
Standings Through May 6th
*Stevens Point  18-4
*Whitewater     17-5
Oshkosh         11-9
La Crosse        11-11
Superior          7-13
Stout              6-16
Platteville        6-18

*-Clinched WIAC Tournament berth

-Whitewater and Stevens Point each play as if the Regular Season WIAC Championship and the home-field advantage in the WIAC Tournament that comes along with it was on the line.  They were both dominant in picking up a pair of victories over La Crosse and Stout respectively.  Whitewater knocked off La Crosse 10-4 and 11-6 with Tincher and Donovan picking up victories.  Brooks Braga stold the show offensively in Game #2, (albeit in a losing cause) as he was 3x4 with a pair of HR's and 5 RBI's.  Stevens Point beats Stout 10-1 and 12-3.  Williams and Delorit pick up the victories on the mound.

-Point clinches a tie for the WIAC Regular Season Championship and will host the WIAC Tournament with a split tomorrow due to winning the tie-breaker.  (They beat Oshkosh 3 out of 4, while Whitewater split.)

-The DH between Oshkosh and Superior was PPD to Sunday, and both Saturday and Sunday's DH's will be played in Oshkosh.  I guess this makes up for the four home games Oshkosh lost earlier in the season when they were played in Platteville.  If Oshkosh wins bith games against Superior tomorrow, they clinch the #3 seed for the WIAC Tournament.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 06, 2011, 08:10:21 PM
WARHAWKS...10   LaCrosse...4

Tincher (8-2): 9 innings, 11 hits, 4 runs (earned), 0 walks, 6 strikeouts

Andrew Eichstaedt 3x4, 2 doubles; Brent Young 3x3, double, 2 RBI; Jeff Donovan 3x4, 2 doubles, home run, 3 RBI.
Jared Fon (1), Logan Peot (1), Matt Beyer (1), Dylan Friend (1) RBI


WARHAWKS...11   LaCrosse...6

Donovan (9-0): 6.1 innings, 10 hits, 4 runs (earned), 3 walks, 6 strikeouts
Justin Mortensen: 2.2 innings, 4 hits, 2 runs (earned), 1 walk, 2 strikeouts

Dan Putnam, 3x4, 1 RBI
Jared Fon, 2x3, Double, 3 RBI

Eichstaedt (2), Donovan (4), Friend (1) RBI

Donovan (grand slam) and Friend had home runs. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: John Gleich on May 07, 2011, 03:25:03 PM
Stevens Point wins game 1 against Stout to claim at least a share of the WIAC regular season title and the #1 seed in the WIAC tournament.

Tied 2-2 after 5, both teams went scoreless until a 2 out walk-off RBI single in the bottom of the 9th by Gerber.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 07, 2011, 06:05:31 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 02, 2011, 07:35:09 PM
Nick Bursick- Superior
He didn't even make it out for the 3rd inning today, and that's against an Oshkosh team that has struggled with the bats all season.  He gave up 6 runs in two innings, including a HR, which was just UWO's third of the season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 07, 2011, 07:14:00 PM
Standings Through May 7th
*Stevens Point  20-4
*Whitewater     18-6
*Oshkosh         13-9
La Crosse        12-12
Superior          7-15
Stout              6-18
Platteville        6-18

*-Clinched WIAC Tournament berth

-Point runs their winning streak to 11 games in their DH sweep of Stout.  They get a walk-off win in the opener, with an RBI single from Seam Gerber, and then jump out to an early 8-0 lead in the nightcap and hold on for a 9-6 victory.

-Whitewater splits a pair of games with La Crosse, dropping the opener 3-1, and then getting a thrilling 1-0 13-inning victory in the nightcap.  La Crosse's Garrett Scray threw 11 scoreless innings before giving way to the bullpen.

-Oshkosh shuffles up the line-up, and puts up double-digit runs for just the second and third time all season in WIAC play in a 10-4 and 14-7 DH sweep of Superior.  Westphal gets the CG victory to improve his record to 6-0 on the season in the opener, and then the Titans come out on top in a slug-fest in the nightcap.  The Titans jumped out to an 8-0 lead, only to see Superior score seven runs in the bottom of the 5th off of starter Matt Wells to close the gap to 8-7.  Oshkosh is able to tack on two runs in the 7th and four more in the 9th, while Troy Mrkvicka comes on in relief to throw four shut-out innings, giving up just one hit and striking out three and the Titans hold on for the 14-7 victory.  Every Titan starter had at least one hit in Game #2, including Jake Dostalek, who made his return to the starting line-up for the first time since April 21st at Stout.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 07, 2011, 08:03:11 PM
Got a bit chippy today in Oshkosh. Eddy Morgan was tossed in Game 2 after about five close calls went against Superior. And I saw Morgan's side most, if not all, of the time. The base ump didn't catch on that Morgan was basically pulling a Coach Dale and begging to get tossed. He didn't empty the bat rack, chuck a base or kick dirt, but it was obvious what was happening. Took about four minutes before the ump got the hint, and he tossed him only after Morgan went back to his dugout. "That's all you got?!" Morgan asked the ump from 200 feet away. And the slow stroll to the bus was on.

Kind of an entertaining day. Rather glad to see more baseball in Oshkosh this year. Stinks that Oshkosh had to travel to Superior to find an unplayable field, but home games are home games.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2011, 03:22:10 PM
Oshkosh clinched the #3 seed yesterday, and their play today showed as much, as they dropped Game #1 of a DH today to Superior 1-0.  Grabig threw arguably his best game of the season, but the combination of Dan Lindsey and Mike Swanson held Oshkosh to just four hits as the Titans never had a runner reach 3rd base with less than two out.

Game #2 sees some of the Titans regulars on the bench and a couple of guys getting their first starts of the season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2011, 05:59:06 PM
Superior takes game two 5-3.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2011, 07:51:19 PM
Final 2011 WIAC Standings
*Stevens Point  20-4
*Whitewater     18-6
*Oshkosh         13-11
La Crosse        12-12
Superior          9-15
Stout              6-18
Platteville        6-18

*-Clinched WIAC Tournament berth

WIAC Tournament Match-ups

Friday's Games
Game #1-Oshksosh vs Whitewater 10:00 am

Game #2-Winner Game #1 vs Stevens Point  1:00 pm

Game #3-Loser Game #1 vs Winner Game #2  4:00 pm

-It will be interesting to see who gets the start for Oshkosh on Friday.  Do they go with the most consistent starter and the guy who shut them down a week ago in Westphal or do they go with Schreiber who got the weekend off?  The wild card would be Rubens.  Is he going to pitch after throwing just one inning in the last month?  One thing I've learned over the years is as soon as you think you have the rotation figured out, the order is changed.

-Now if you are Whitewater, do you throw Tincher in Game #1, or do you throw Donovan and keep Tincher for a match-up with Point?

-In talking with people this weekend, the consensus was that if you play in Game #1, throw your #2, so that if you win Game #1 you have your #1 for Game #2 against the #1 seeds #1.  Even if you lose, you have your #1 going against the other teams #2 or #3 in Game #3.  I'm not sure I agree with it, but I can see their train of thought.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 08, 2011, 11:11:28 PM
This year's WIAC tournament will be interesting in the fact that usually Point doesn't win the WIAC regular season title and has to win the WIAC tourney to get that automatic spot in regionals.  I personally believe Whitewater will throw Tincher game #1.  Point and Whitewater both know that they are in regionals regardless of how they do this weekend and I don't know that even if Whitewater wins the tourney that they'll be the #1 seed for regionals.  I also believe that Point and Whitewater will be 1 and 2 seeds at regionals regardless of how they do this weekend.  I'm sure Whitewater would rather be a 1 seed going in but seeing they have home field advantage I'm sure it's not a top priority for them.  Either way whomever wins game #1 is going to have a very hard time with Point as Williams has been on fire the past few weeks.  Oshkosh has to throw Westphal game 1 no ifs, ands or buts about it.  He's been the best pitcher in the WIAC all season long.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 09, 2011, 02:25:21 PM
UW-Stevens Point announced their five Director of Athletics finalists today and baseball coach Pat Bloom is among them.

http://athletics.uwsp.edu/news/2011/5/9/GEN_0509114947.aspx
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: d32kidsplayen on May 09, 2011, 09:38:08 PM
so, if Bloom was to get the AD job I have to assume that would end his coaching career at UWSP, correct?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 09, 2011, 10:34:05 PM
Quote from: d32kidsplayen on May 09, 2011, 09:38:08 PM
so, if Bloom was to get the AD job I have to assume that would end his coaching career at UWSP, correct?

Most likely. The previous AD had no coaching responsibilities and no other WIAC AD coaches.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIACLUV on May 09, 2011, 10:49:40 PM
May be a good reason for him NOT to get the job. If he does get it, he has to interview the person to take over his program. That could be a tough decision since he's going to have a lot of good candidates that'll want that job.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 10, 2011, 07:28:49 AM
Quote from: MIACLUV on May 09, 2011, 10:49:40 PM
May be a good reason for him NOT to get the job. If he does get it, he has to interview the person to take over his program. That could be a tough decision since he's going to have a lot of good candidates that'll want that job.

That's a problem any AD would love to have. It's the job searches with no viable candidates that are the tough ones. I don't think that will be an issue in Bloom being considered.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 10, 2011, 08:07:46 AM
Quote from: MIACLUV on May 09, 2011, 10:49:40 PM
May be a good reason for him NOT to get the job. If he does get it, he has to interview the person to take over his program. That could be a tough decision since he's going to have a lot of good candidates that'll want that job.

Before Bloom came in at UWSP, Scotth Pritchard was there and left for Westminster. Why did Pritchard leave for what I see as a much less desirable job?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 10, 2011, 12:08:23 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 10, 2011, 08:07:46 AM
Quote from: MIACLUV on May 09, 2011, 10:49:40 PM
May be a good reason for him NOT to get the job. If he does get it, he has to interview the person to take over his program. That could be a tough decision since he's going to have a lot of good candidates that'll want that job.

Before Bloom came in at UWSP, Scotth Pritchard was there and left for Westminster. Why did Pritchard leave for what I see as a much less desirable job?

The Westminster job was full-time (when added to other duties on campus). The UWSP job was not. I don't know the current state of UWSP's baseball job.  Bloom actually replaced Brian Nelson who was inbetween Bloom and Pritchard.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 10, 2011, 12:10:26 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on May 10, 2011, 12:08:23 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 10, 2011, 08:07:46 AM
Quote from: MIACLUV on May 09, 2011, 10:49:40 PM
May be a good reason for him NOT to get the job. If he does get it, he has to interview the person to take over his program. That could be a tough decision since he's going to have a lot of good candidates that'll want that job.

Before Bloom came in at UWSP, Scotth Pritchard was there and left for Westminster. Why did Pritchard leave for what I see as a much less desirable job?

The Westminster job was full-time (when added to other duties on campus). The UWSP job was not. I don't know the current state of UWSP's baseball job.  Bloom actually replaced Brian Nelson who was inbetween Bloom and Pritchard.

You are correct. I forgot about Nelson. Thanks, Bill.

I find it hard to expect a program to compete without a full-time coach on campus. See Carroll this year as an example.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ballfan55 on May 10, 2011, 01:03:46 PM
Carroll may have turned into a full-time position.  At least the AD seems to have indicated that his priority will be to make things full time, but I think it may already be one.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on May 10, 2011, 03:16:05 PM
unless something has changed, Point's baseball coach is far from a full time job (in terms of pay).  They have been blessed with Bloom, in that he's put every ounce of his being into that program to get it to where it is now, but without changing the pay structure (again if it hasn't been already) they will be hard pressed to find someone willing to put in the time and effort for what amounts to a pat on the back, because at least when I was playing that's about all he got, and that's barely an exageration!  Without taking on lecture duties and additional jobs for the athletic department he was compensated less than many earn in a single month, and he put in countless hours...disgusting in my opinion, but I'm very grateful to have had him as a coach/mentor and wish him the best...he would be a great AD, the man has lived and breathed UWSP athletics for the past 7-8 years.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 10, 2011, 07:25:22 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on May 09, 2011, 10:34:05 PM
Quote from: d32kidsplayen on May 09, 2011, 09:38:08 PM
so, if Bloom was to get the AD job I have to assume that would end his coaching career at UWSP, correct?

Most likely. The previous AD had no coaching responsibilities and no other WIAC AD coaches.

Most likely but you never know, Bob Nielson at Minnesota Duluth is their AD and head football coach, who was still able to win 2 NCAA championships doing both jobs
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 10, 2011, 08:29:58 PM
The WARHAWKS took both ends of the double header with Concordia Wi today 8-7 and 11-0.  

Game one:
The WARHAWKS had a comfortable 5-0 lead after four innings but Concordia scored 4 times in the fifth to close the gap.  WHITEWATER stretched to lead to 6-4 with a run in bottom of the fifth however Concordia answered with a pair of runs in the sixth to knot it at 6-6.  Sam Keller's solo home run in the seventh gave the WARHAWKS the lead for good and they added an insurance run on an RBI single by Matt Beyer in the eighth.  The WARHAWKS stranded 13 runners.

Jeff Donovan: 3 innings, 0 hits, 0 runs, 0 walks, 0 strikeouts
Kyle Lee: 1.2 innings, 5 hits, 4 runs (earned), 2 walks, 1 strikeout
Eric Schmitz (2-0): 3 innings, 1 hit, 2 runs, 1 earned, 1 walk, 3 strikeouts
Riley Tincher (S1): 1 inning, 0 hit, 0 runs, 0 walks, 2 strikeouts

Andrew Eichstaedt: 2x4, 1 RS, 3 RBI, double
Dylan Friend: 2x4, 3 RS

Keller (2), Logan Peot (2), Beyer (1) RBI

Game two:
The WARHAWKS jumped on top with 7 runs in the first inning and cruised to the easy 7 inning victory.  

Riley Tincher (9-2:  3 innings, 1 hit, 0 runs, 0 walks, 1 strikeout
Rob Coe: 2 innings, 1 hit, 0 runs, 1 walk, 2 strikeouts
Jack Larson: 1.2 innings, 2 hits, 0 runs, 0 walks, 2 strikeouts
Justin Lambert: .1 inning, 0 hits, 0 runs, 0 walks, 0 strikeouts

Ryan Leavitt: 3x3, 1 RS, 2 RBI
Steve Bartlein: 2x3, 1 RS, 2 RBI
Beyer: 1x1, 2 RBI, Home Run
Andrew Bauer: 1x1, 1 RS, Triple

Travis Wessels (1), Dylan Friend (2), Nathan Boltz (1) RBI
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 10, 2011, 09:46:58 PM
Quote from: BaseballFan on May 10, 2011, 07:25:22 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on May 09, 2011, 10:34:05 PM
Quote from: d32kidsplayen on May 09, 2011, 09:38:08 PM
so, if Bloom was to get the AD job I have to assume that would end his coaching career at UWSP, correct?

Most likely. The previous AD had no coaching responsibilities and no other WIAC AD coaches.

Most likely but you never know, Bob Nielson at Minnesota Duluth is their AD and head football coach, who was still able to win 2 NCAA championships doing both jobs

Possibly one of the more successful dual HC/AD combo's in college athletics today would have to be Larry Kehres.  He has 10 National Championships as HC and AD at Mount Union.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 10, 2011, 10:41:49 PM
http://www.stevenspointjournal.com/article/20110510/SPJ02/105100402/College-baseball-Pointers-Williams-develops-into-staff-ace?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|SPJ-Sports
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: d32kidsplayen on May 11, 2011, 04:31:00 PM
Regarding Bloom- don't forget that he teaches Sports Psychology at Point as well...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 13, 2011, 01:03:54 PM
WOW!!!!!

Both Oshkosh and Whitewater decide against throwing either their #1 or #2 in Game #1 of the WIAC Tournament.

Oshkosh sends Wells to the bump, while Whitewater counters with Larsen.  Larsen is making his 4th start of the season, and has 22 IP going into today.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 13, 2011, 01:11:32 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 13, 2011, 01:03:54 PM
WOW!!!!!

Both Oshkosh and Whitewater decide against throwing either their #1 or #2 in Game #1 of the WIAC Tournament.

Oshkosh sends Wells to the bump, while Whitewater counters with Larsen.  Larsen is making his 4th start of the season, and has 22 IP going into today.

No surprise... gotta come at Point with all guns blazin'. Whitewater knows they are in and is playing to get the #1 seed in the regional. Oshkosh knows they need to win it to get to the regional so they prefer their best arms for the finals.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 13, 2011, 01:41:30 PM
Whitewater jumps on Wells early, scoring in each of the first two innings to take a 6-0 lead.  Eichstaedt with the big blow, a grand slam to give Larsen a cushion.  Wells out and Murphy in to start the 3rd inning for Oshkosh.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 13, 2011, 01:48:59 PM
Titans with some defensive lapses to load the bases in the bottom of the 3rd for UWW...no outs.

Dylan Friend doubles down the first base line to score 2 - still no outs.  UWW 8 UWO 0

Another walk loads the bases again for Daniel Putnam.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 13, 2011, 01:55:57 PM
Whitewater puts up another four runs in the 3rd inning to take a 10-0 lead....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 13, 2011, 01:57:54 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 13, 2011, 01:55:57 PM
Whitewater puts up another four runs in the 3rd inning to take a 10-0 lead....

4 runs on only 1 hit.

Make that 6 runs on 2 hits. Rob Coe hit a 2-run homer.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 13, 2011, 02:01:38 PM
Quote from: BoBo on May 13, 2011, 01:57:54 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 13, 2011, 01:55:57 PM
Whitewater puts up another four runs in the 3rd inning to take a 10-0 lead....

4 runs on only 1 hit.

Make that 6 runs on 2 hits. Rob Coe hit a 2-run homer.
Point's version of Live Stats leave A LOT to be desired.....  They seem to update every five batters or so, which never really lets you feel the "flow of the game."
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 13, 2011, 02:03:40 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 13, 2011, 02:01:38 PM
Quote from: BoBo on May 13, 2011, 01:57:54 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 13, 2011, 01:55:57 PM
Whitewater puts up another four runs in the 3rd inning to take a 10-0 lead....

4 runs on only 1 hit.

Make that 6 runs on 2 hits. Rob Coe hit a 2-run homer.
Point's version of Live Stats leave A LOT to be desired.....  They seem to update every five batters or so, which never really lets you feel the "flow of the game."

Mine just went out completely.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 13, 2011, 02:19:30 PM
Whitewater has scored in every inning, and leads 14-0 after four complete innings.  This has 7-inning game written all over it....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 13, 2011, 02:36:02 PM
Donovan with 2-run HR to answer UWO's single run in the 5th inning to make it 16-1.

Gotta love seeing a runner get thrown out at 3rd base when you're down 14-0.  Looks like he'll have plenty of time to think about it, as he was replaced in the bottom half of the inning.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 13, 2011, 02:39:41 PM
Larsen seems to be a pretty good choice of pitcher to start game 1 in this tournament for UWW.  I guess coach V knew what he was doing!!  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIACLUV on May 13, 2011, 02:48:10 PM
So if I follow this crazy 3 team format correctly, by winning this game WW would then face Point. Burn another starter and if they lose, come back to face Oshkosh again who would've only used one guy. Correct? Because losing the first game and throwing off may not be a bad play.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 13, 2011, 02:49:05 PM
Quote from: BoBo on May 13, 2011, 02:39:41 PM
Larsen seems to be a pretty good choice of pitcher to start game 1 in this tournament for UWW.  I guess coach V knew what he was doing!!  ;)
With the lack of firepower from the UWO bats this season, as long as said pitcher could throw it 60 feet 6 inches, I don't think it would have mattered who Vode chose to start.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 13, 2011, 02:50:41 PM
Quote from: MIACLUV on May 13, 2011, 02:48:10 PM
So if I follow this crazy 3 team format correctly, by winning this game WW would then face Point. Burn another starter and if they lose, come back to face Oshkosh again who would've only used one guy. Correct? Because losing the first game and throwing off may not be a bad play.
That is correct!!!  That was the discussion I was having a couple of weeks back.  You win Game #1, you get to match up your #1 with Point's #1 in Game #2.  You lose, you still have your #1, #2, and #3 to win three games.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 13, 2011, 02:52:15 PM
Whitewater with five more runs in the 6th to make it 21-1.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on May 13, 2011, 03:06:12 PM
cant decide if this is a good thing or a bad thing for the hawks...

certainly wont hurt their confidence, but could it set them up for a collapse if things get tough in the next game?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 13, 2011, 06:27:14 PM
I don't understand Whitewater's philosophy in starting Lambert against Point.  They gambled against Oshkosh and it worked so why not throw your #1 or #2?  Oshkosh must have just thrown in the towel you have Schreiber, Reubens, and Westphal and you don't throw any of them?  Why even have the WIAC tourney if teams aren't going to play to win? 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 14, 2011, 02:34:52 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 13, 2011, 06:27:14 PM
I don't understand Whitewater's philosophy in starting Lambert against Point.  They gambled against Oshkosh and it worked so why not throw your #1 or #2?  Oshkosh must have just thrown in the towel you have Schreiber, Reubens, and Westphal and you don't throw any of them?  Why even have the WIAC tourney if teams aren't going to play to win? 

An unconventional tournament format requires an unconventional, out-of-the-box approach, IMO.  Only time will tell if there was wisdom behind the decisions.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 14, 2011, 11:21:18 AM
The gamble came very close to working.  Lambert had a shaky start the first three innings but after that he settled down and pitched well.  We were able to climb back into the game and had the winning run on base in our last at bat.  We came close to taking both games yesterday and both Tincher and Donovan are available today.  Perhaps that regardless of what happened in the conference tournament we're in the post season so all we're really playing for is seeding is driving Vo's decisions.

Oshkosh is throwing Westphal today.  Would they be in better shape if he had pitched yesterday and wasn't available for a do or die game?  I don't exactly understand how Lechnir's been using his pitching staff the past couple of weeks but he's got his aces available today and without winning the conference tournament I don't think they'll make the post season.

No score in the WHITEWATER half of the third inning.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 14, 2011, 11:25:12 AM
Dylan Friend's solo home run puts the WARHAWKS ahead 1-0. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 14, 2011, 11:26:17 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 14, 2011, 11:25:12 AM
Dylan Friend's solo home run puts the WARHAWKS ahead 1-0. 

He's hit the ball well the last two days.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 14, 2011, 12:53:08 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 13, 2011, 06:27:14 PM
I don't understand Whitewater's philosophy in starting Lambert against Point.  They gambled against Oshkosh and it worked so why not throw your #1 or #2?  Oshkosh must have just thrown in the towel you have Schreiber, Reubens, and Westphal and you don't throw any of them?  Why even have the WIAC tourney if teams aren't going to play to win? 
Yeah, Oshkosh just showed up to get their arses kicked twice.....  It's comments like those that got on peoples nerves when you made them in previous seasons.  If you had ever played college athletics, you'd think twice before saying that about a group of players.  Oshkosh needed to win three games to make it to Regionals, and they are hoping that Westphal, Schreiber, and Rubens can get it done today.

I guess Westphal isn't pitching to win today either, making one mistake to Friend while giving up just two hits through nine innings and striking out 10 Warahwks.   ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 14, 2011, 01:00:54 PM
Titans execute a squeeze bunt in the bottom of the ninth and get the win 2-1.  Westphal was outstanding.

The WARHAWKS just gave the selection committee a reason to screw with us.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 14, 2011, 01:10:50 PM
Just out of curiousity....  Is the All Conference voting already completed before the WIAC Tournament?  I know they don't announce it until next week, but I was wondering if they vote on it before or after the tournament.  While Oshkosh didn't finish at the top of the standings, one could make a legitimate case for Westphal as the Pitcher of the Year.  In 8 appearances (all starts) he was 7-0 with an ERA around 1.30.  This includes two victories pver Whitewater.  I'm sure either Williams, Donovan, or Tincher will win it, but Westphal has the numbers to put him in the discussion.  If he would have gotten an start and victory over Stevens Point, he might have had a better chance.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 14, 2011, 04:57:50 PM
UWSP finishes it off with a 10-0, 7-inning win over UW-Oshkosh.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 14, 2011, 09:51:32 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 14, 2011, 01:10:50 PM
Just out of curiousity....  Is the All Conference voting already completed before the WIAC Tournament?  I know they don't announce it until next week, but I was wondering if they vote on it before or after the tournament.  While Oshkosh didn't finish at the top of the standings, one could make a legitimate case for Westphal as the Pitcher of the Year.  In 8 appearances (all starts) he was 7-0 with an ERA around 1.30.  This includes two victories pver Whitewater.  I'm sure either Williams, Donovan, or Tincher will win it, but Westphal has the numbers to put him in the discussion.  If he would have gotten an start and victory over Stevens Point, he might have had a better chance.

I think it's already been voted on.  During the WARHAWK/Oshkosh game they mentioned that Riley Tincher was voted the scholar/athlete award.  That would suggest to me that he wasn't voted the pitcher of the year.  I think Williams will get that.  Westphal was outstanding and he certainly had to be mentioned in the discussion.  He may have been the best pitcher in the league this year.  Unfortunately he didn't play for the best team.   If he had I don't think there would have been much more to discuss.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 15, 2011, 09:52:10 AM
Does anyone know why the home plate area on Steven Point's baseball diamond is elevated?  I've never seen that in another park.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 16, 2011, 11:39:52 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 15, 2011, 09:52:10 AM
Does anyone know why the home plate area on Steven Point's baseball diamond is elevated?  I've never seen that in another park.
I haven't been there in person since the re-did the field, but that's not apparent on any of the videos I have seen this year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 16, 2011, 12:07:05 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on May 16, 2011, 11:39:52 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 15, 2011, 09:52:10 AM
Does anyone know why the home plate area on Steven Point's baseball diamond is elevated?  I've never seen that in another park.
I haven't been there in person since the re-did the field, but that's not apparent on any of the videos I have seen this year.

It's elevated about 6 inches or so. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 16, 2011, 12:16:49 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 15, 2011, 09:52:10 AM
Does anyone know why the home plate area on Steven Point's baseball diamond is elevated?  I've never seen that in another park.

Water runoff... plate stays more playable when it rains. As long as the plate and mounds are useable, most times the rest is manageable.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 16, 2011, 12:19:46 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 16, 2011, 12:16:49 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 15, 2011, 09:52:10 AM
Does anyone know why the home plate area on Steven Point's baseball diamond is elevated?  I've never seen that in another park.

Water runoff... plate stays more playable when it rains. As long as the plate and mounds are useable, most times the rest is manageable.

I think Big Poppa's probably right. It just might be for some reason it's more pronounced or more apparent to the eye at UWSP.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 17, 2011, 02:56:16 PM
All Conference Team was released earlier today.....

Position Player of the Year-Cody Koback
Pitcher of the Year-Luke Westphal
Scholar Athlete-Riley Tincher
Coach of the Year-Pat Bloom

Both Koback and Donovan were named to the 1st team as both pitchers and position players.  Congrats to all!!!!

http://www.wiacsports.com/documents/2011/5/17/2011BaseballAllConf.pdf
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 17, 2011, 03:03:00 PM
Darn cubs, you beat me to it by five minutes.  I figured you'd be particularly pleased by the pitcher of the year selection. Very deserving he had a great year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 17, 2011, 03:38:09 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 17, 2011, 03:03:00 PM
Darn cubs, you beat me to it by five minutes.  I figured you'd be particularly pleased by the pitcher of the year selection. Very deserving he had a great year.
Not going to lie, I've been checking the WIAC site quite a bit today!!!!  Was also glad to see Jeremy Rubens make the 1st Team as well.  He's fought through a lot of injuries and when healthy he was as good as anyone in the WIAC the last few years.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 17, 2011, 03:49:38 PM
Rubens deserved the recognition.  

One thing that surprised me was Fritz going from POY last year to honorable mention this year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 17, 2011, 03:59:25 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 17, 2011, 03:49:38 PM
Rubens deserved the recognition.  

One thing that surprised me was Fritz going from POY last year to honorable mention this year.
That will happen when you drop from #1/2 in the order, and progressively drop all season until you end up hitting #9 in the WIAC Tournament.  Plus his average dropped under the .300 mark this season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 17, 2011, 06:32:46 PM
Fritz struggled with the bat but also had some tough luck this year hitting many balls hard but right at people.  He's still a great defensive SS and there's not many SS's I would take over him in D3.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 17, 2011, 10:12:24 PM
Anyone surprised Smolinski from Stout didn't get anything?  I thought he was their best player.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 21, 2011, 10:01:26 PM
UWW will open World Series play in Grand Chute against Buena Vista, winner of the Central Regional.  It's game #3 on the docket; first pitch scheduled for 4:30 on Friday May 27th.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 23, 2011, 12:48:28 PM
Wow...congrats to the 'Hawks for winning regionals. Didn't think they had it in them to get by UWSP and St. Scholastica. Tough region.

Buena Vista will be a tough game, they've been playing really well lately. But I guess at this stage in the tournament, they're all tough.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 23, 2011, 03:33:17 PM
Whitewater should cruise through their first two games but I also thought that about Point their first two games of regionals.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 23, 2011, 03:39:55 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 23, 2011, 03:33:17 PM
Whitewater should cruise through their first two games but I also thought that about Point their first two games of regionals.

Hard to say for certain as all eight teams that are left have battled their way through tough regionals and beaten some nationally ranked teams along the way. I think WW should get out of the box quickly in this bracket, but I also thought that CNU would beat Webster.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 23, 2011, 03:46:10 PM
Point not making the series stung enough while I was at Miller Park all weekend but than to get home and see the bracket made it sting even more.  I just keep thinking what could have been.  Either way a WIAC team is in once again which is great and unless Whitewater completely plays bad they should be the favorite to face Marietta in the championship.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 26, 2011, 09:31:50 AM
WARHAWK FANS attending the World Series be advised that there is a tailgate party on Friday 2:30pm - 4:30pm prior to the game.  The tailgate will take place in the parking lot on the first base side of the stadium.  Along with all the fixin's there will be Tom Lange's favorite beer....free beer.  If you plan on being there don't miss it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 26, 2011, 10:35:43 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 26, 2011, 09:31:50 AM
WARHAWK FANS attending the World Series be advised that there is a tailgate party on Friday 2:30pm - 4:30pm prior to the game.  The tailgate will take place in the parking lot on the first base side of the stadium.  Along with all the fixin's there will be Tom Lange's favorite beer....free beer.  If you plan on being there don't miss it.

Ain't that the truth  :D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 27, 2011, 12:06:38 AM
A couple Warhawks have taken some interesting life choices to get to the World Series, as explained HERE (http://www.jsonline.com/sports/statecolleges/122696554.html)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 27, 2011, 11:51:46 PM
Whitewater scores two runs in the 9th inning to tie the game up at 4-4, but unfortunately an RBI single by Buena Vista plates a run on the first pitch Riley Tincher throws to give the Beavers the 5-4 victory.

The Warhawks will look to fight their way back through the losers bracket as they face Western New England at 1:15 pm on Saturday.  Western New England dropped a 2-1 decision to Keystone College in the final game of the night on Friday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 31, 2011, 07:42:39 PM
Any predictions for 2012 WIAC?  Seems like Lacrosse and Oshkosh will have the best pitching returning but Point will return some great hitters in Douglas, Jirschele, Gerber, and Barnes.  Don't know that Point will have the overall pitching to make any sort of run.  Whitewater loses a ton too but will return Eichstadt and Lambert.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 31, 2011, 08:15:58 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 31, 2011, 07:42:39 PM
Any predictions for 2012 WIAC?  Seems like Lacrosse and Oshkosh will have the best pitching returning but Point will return some great hitters in Douglas, Jirschele, Gerber, and Barnes.  Don't know that Point will have the overall pitching to make any sort of run.  Whitewater loses a ton too but will return Eichstadt and Lambert.
Don't forget that Whitewater will also return LHP Aaron Leitner who missed this season due to injury.  Him and Lambert will make a solid #1/2 punch on the mound.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 31, 2011, 11:17:14 PM
Damn did you have to remind me they had Leitner coming back?  I guess it's great for the overall strength of the WIAC but Point really needs to either get a transfer or big time recruit that can step in and pitch right away and be a #1 or 2.  I think Wendorf and Flood have a ton of potential but they could use a proven pitcher with experience.  The thing with Leitner is you just don't know if he'll hold up for an entire year coming off major surgery.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on June 07, 2011, 03:55:28 PM
Koback gets drafted by the Red Sox in the 10th rd of the first year player draft...pretty high for a position player in D3
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 07, 2011, 04:26:55 PM
He's going to beat out Jacoby Ellsbury next year wait and see.  I already loved the Red Sox now I'm definitely making the trip out there next year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on June 07, 2011, 05:03:02 PM
Are you serious? Maybe see where the mi nor league teams are playing and go there. You do realize that Ellsbury is leading the American League in stolen bases don't you? Happy for Kody but don't see him in the majors for at least 2 years.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on June 07, 2011, 05:09:53 PM
If he set the world on fire he might get a shot in 3yrs, but that's pushing it IMO.  Barring some major injuries, and even then they would likely trade to find a big league ready player, he's got a lot of bus rides before we can even think about talking big leagues.  Congratulations to Cody, he has a great amount of talent and I certainly hope he does well for himself and the WIAC and Point!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 07, 2011, 05:17:00 PM
Quote from: Dagger on June 07, 2011, 05:09:53 PM
If he set the world on fire he might get a shot in 3yrs, but that's pushing it IMO.  Barring some major injuries, and even then they would likely trade to find a big league ready player, he's got a lot of bus rides before we can even think about talking big leagues.  Congratulations to Cody, he has a great amount of talent and I certainly hope he does well for himself and the WIAC and Point!
Quite a change in opinion since September huh Dagger? ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dagger on June 07, 2011, 05:18:25 PM
never said I was best friends with him...just wishing him success.  dont agree with how he handled himself this past fall, never will, but I certainly will not hope for failure.  He is a Pointer after all.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 07, 2011, 07:44:49 PM
I hate to say I told you so but I've been saying the past three years that Koback is one of the best D3 players of all time.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on June 07, 2011, 08:15:46 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on June 07, 2011, 07:44:49 PM
I hate to say I told you so but I've been saying the past three years that Koback is one of the best D3 players of all time.

He's not even the best D3 player all-time at his own school.

All he's got right now is a shot, which is a lot more than 99% of D-III ball players ever get. I'm glad for him and hope he makes the most of it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 07, 2011, 08:25:15 PM
One problem there's not that many players ever in D3 that are better than Jordan Zimmerman either.  Koback's stats won't show how great he really was in college since he missed most of last year with injury.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: infielddad on June 07, 2011, 08:41:14 PM
Shine,
It really doesn't matter how good he is in DIII.
What matters is will he sign and how quickly will he adjust to the speed and strength of those playing the game at the next level.
If he signs, he might net about $60,000 after taxes and won't have his degree.
He likely will be a Lowell Spinner and he will be seeing 90-95 most every night with better command and breaking balls than he has seen to date.
He needs to be better every day and every AB. If he isn't, the guy next to him, behind him or coming next year will.
That is life in Milb.
He has yet to play a single game at the quality level he will be playing in high A short season Lowell.  As we sit here, we don't understand how much better a DIII player needs to get in a short period of time.
They find out quickly.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 08, 2011, 10:19:11 AM
Quote from: infielddad on June 07, 2011, 08:41:14 PM
If he signs, he might net about $60,000 after taxes and won't have his degree.
I have a funny feeling there will be a stipulation in his contract that the Red Sox will pick up the tab for the remainder of his undergrad tuition should the baseball thing not work out.  I know a couple of guys that went MUCH later than him, and that was part of their contract, in addition to the signing bonus cash.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: infielddad on June 08, 2011, 10:38:45 AM
Quote from: cubs on June 08, 2011, 10:19:11 AM
Quote from: infielddad on June 07, 2011, 08:41:14 PM
If he signs, he might net about $60,000 after taxes and won't have his degree.
I have a funny feeling there will be a stipulation in his contract that the Red Sox will pick up the tab for the remainder of his undergrad tuition should the baseball thing not work out.  I know a couple of guys that went MUCH later than him, and that was part of their contract, in addition to the signing bonus cash.

cubs, you are right, the MLB scholarship program can be part of the contract. It is part of the negotiations.
 However, some teams take the potential cost into consideration on how much bonus is offered, especially as they  move down draft picks..
It is a known fact that the MLB scholarship program is only used by about 5% of those who have it in their contract.
Additionally, it is usually structured to pay current tuition costs, only. If tuition rises, and where is that not happening, the scholarship does not.  It pays a fixed amount which might only be 75% or so of the tuition amount when a player returns to school. The MLB program does not pay room or board.
Finally, the player must return to school within 2 years of their final release date in Milb. It they don't, the scholarship option lapses.
So, while MLB can provide this option, it has many variables which need to be carefully understood or it can look like one thing in a contract and end up being another, or nothing at all.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 08, 2011, 10:53:24 AM
Quote from: infielddad on June 08, 2011, 10:38:45 AM
Quote from: cubs on June 08, 2011, 10:19:11 AM
Quote from: infielddad on June 07, 2011, 08:41:14 PM
If he signs, he might net about $60,000 after taxes and won't have his degree.
I have a funny feeling there will be a stipulation in his contract that the Red Sox will pick up the tab for the remainder of his undergrad tuition should the baseball thing not work out.  I know a couple of guys that went MUCH later than him, and that was part of their contract, in addition to the signing bonus cash.
cubs, you are right, the MLB scholarship program can be part of the contract. It is part of the negotiations.
 However, some teams take the potential cost into consideration on how much bonus is offered, especially as they  move down draft picks..
It is a known fact that the MLB scholarship program is only used by about 5% of those who have it in their contract.
Additionally, it is usually structured to pay current tuition costs, only. If tuition rises, and where is that not happening, the scholarship does not.  It pays a fixed amount which might only be 75% or so of the tuition amount when a player returns to school. The MLB program does not pay room or board.
Finally, the player must return to school within 2 years of their final release date in Milb. It they don't, the scholarship option lapses.
So, while MLB can provide this option, it has many variables which need to be carefully understood or it can look like one thing in a contract and end up being another, or nothing at all.
+K!!!!  I knew that it was only tuition and not room and board, and I also knew that schooling had to start within 2 years of release, but I was unaware of the fact that they pay the current cost of tuition, and not the cost of what it is when they re-enroll.  Thanks for sharing!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on June 09, 2011, 03:45:58 PM
Daron Montgomery from Detroit Mercy is the choice for UWSP AD:

    uwspathletics Former @DetroitTitans senior associate AD Daron Montgomery introduced as the new UWSP AD. #ncaa #d3 http://yfrog.com/h36ohsij
Thu, Jun 09 14:16:54 from TweetDeck

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on June 19, 2011, 12:28:05 AM
Red Sox sign 12 (including their 6th and 9th round draft picks)...Koback not among them.   :o   STORY (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2011/06/red_sox_have_si.html)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 21, 2011, 07:52:56 AM
Is it possible Koback could be coming back to UWSP 1 more year in hopes of winning a national championship?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 21, 2011, 09:14:02 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on June 21, 2011, 07:52:56 AM
Is it possible Koback could be coming back to UWSP 1 more year in hopes of winning a national championship?

That would surprise the hell out of me. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 21, 2011, 01:28:51 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on June 21, 2011, 07:52:56 AM
Is it possible Koback could be coming back to UWSP 1 more year in hopes of winning a national championship?
If that was the case, Point would need to be bringing in at least 2-3 more pitching STUDS (besides Koback) because looking at their roster right now, they don't have the arms to compete at the national level next season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on June 22, 2011, 11:10:05 AM
Quote from: cubs on June 21, 2011, 01:28:51 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on June 21, 2011, 07:52:56 AM
Is it possible Koback could be coming back to UWSP 1 more year in hopes of winning a national championship?
If that was the case, Point would need to be bringing in at least 2-3 more pitching STUDS (besides Koback) because looking at their roster right now, they don't have the arms to compete at the national level next season.

Hanke could be one of those studs, anybody hear anything recently on his decision?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 22, 2011, 02:46:36 PM
Wendorf and Iverson aren't too bad they would make a solid #2 and #3 with Hanke possilby #4.  Van Beck also could factor in.  Anyone really know what's going on with Koback?  He's playing for the Rafters I see and hitting around 250. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 22, 2011, 10:20:14 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on June 22, 2011, 02:46:36 PM
Wendorf and Iverson aren't too bad they would make a solid #2 and #3 with Hanke possilby #4.  Van Beck also could factor in.  Anyone really know what's going on with Koback?  He's playing for the Rafters I see and hitting around 250.
Being able to beat teams at the National Level and "aren't too bad" are completely different things.  Look at it this way, which trio would you take:

A-Williams/Delorit/Koback
B-Koback/Iverson/Wendorf

If you would honestly take Group B, you are a bigger homer than anyone could have even imagined.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on June 22, 2011, 11:15:41 PM
cubs, you're being silly. You know he'd pick option C:

C-Koback/Koback/Koback
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 22, 2011, 11:22:30 PM
+K!!!

Good thing I was taking a drink as I was reading that, or my computer may have been ruined after I spit it out from laughing!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 27, 2011, 03:24:11 PM
While the line-up he faced may not be at the same level of those he sees during the Regular Season, UWO's Luke Westphal continued to be impressive this weekend, throwing a "No-Hitter" in the Oshkosh Giants victory in Addison (IL) on Sunday.

http://www.thenorthwestern.com/article/20110627/OSH02/110626058/Westphal-throws-no-hitter-Oshkosh-Giants-doubleheader-sweep-Addison-Braves?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|OSH-Sports
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on July 05, 2011, 11:08:00 AM
Rob Coe has signed with and is pitching for the St Paul Saints.  He's hitting the mid-90's.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on July 06, 2011, 11:35:59 AM
Rob or Doug?  If Rob is hitting mid 90's he should've been pitching on a regular basis this past season.  I know Doug had a rocket arm when he played for Point and could see him hitting mid 90's.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on July 06, 2011, 11:36:54 AM
What's the latest on Koback?  He's still playing for the Rafters which leads me to believe he's playing for Point next year. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on July 06, 2011, 01:43:06 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on July 06, 2011, 11:35:59 AM
Rob or Doug?  If Rob is hitting mid 90's he should've been pitching on a regular basis this past season.  I know Doug had a rocket arm when he played for Point and could see him hitting mid 90's.
Well he was Whitewater's defacto closer this season....  What more do you want him to do?  He was the best catcher on the Warhawk roster, so it's not like you can expect him to throw nine-innings every weekend and catch the other 27 innings.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on July 06, 2011, 03:14:39 PM
He was the best catcher in the league.  ;)

He was played at the position from which he could make the most significant contribution to the team.  His situation is different now.  I think Vodenlich has a pretty good idea of where to play his athletes.  He's been doing it pretty successfully for some time now. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on July 06, 2011, 10:41:35 PM
I guess what I'm trying to say is why didn't they get another very good catcher and make him a full time starter if he's throwing mid 90's?  I know Coe was a great catcher but I'm thinking Whitewater as good as they are could've recruited someone at least close to the caliber of Coe defensively.  Just seems like they wasted what could've been a dominant D3 pitcher.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on July 06, 2011, 11:44:11 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on July 06, 2011, 10:41:35 PM
I guess what I'm trying to say is why didn't they get another very good catcher and make him a full time starter if he's throwing mid 90's?  I know Coe was a great catcher but I'm thinking Whitewater as good as they are could've recruited someone at least close to the caliber of Coe defensively.  Just seems like they wasted what could've been a dominant D3 pitcher.

Very good catchers don't grow on trees. . . if they did, everyone might have one.   ::)   ;)

badgerwarhawk stated it clearly and correctly, IMO.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on July 07, 2011, 09:36:31 AM
You would think that it would be easy to recruit someone as good as or better than the best catcher in the league.  Surprisingly it is more difficult than it would seem.  We tried but he ended up going to Findlandia.   ???
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 08, 2011, 12:11:18 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on July 06, 2011, 11:35:59 AM
Rob or Doug?  If Rob is hitting mid 90's he should've been pitching on a regular basis this past season.  I know Doug had a rocket arm when he played for Point and could see him hitting mid 90's.

Saw him pitch for St. Paul last month and that's true. He is pitching and hitting the '90s.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on July 11, 2011, 11:45:55 AM
Reigning WIAC Pitcher of the Year Luke Westphal made his Northwoods League debut yesterday for the Eau Claire Express at Waterloo.  Even though he didn't give up an earned run in 7 innings of work, Westphal and the Express were on the short end of a 3-0 defeat.  Westphal gave up two runs on five hits while walking three and striking out five.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on July 21, 2011, 08:04:56 AM
Cody Koback signed with Red Sox and Scott Williams with Nationals.  It's in the Stevens Point Journal Today.  My dreams of Koback coming back are shattered.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on July 21, 2011, 09:45:02 AM
Congrats and good luck to both.

http://www.wisconsinrapidstribune.com/article/20110721/WRT02/107210595/Baseball-Pointers-pair-sign-MLB-teams?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Cimg%7CFRONTPAGE
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on July 21, 2011, 02:25:40 PM
Congrats to both of them!!!!

Nothing like being able to pursue your dreams, AND getting paid to do so.  It's a win-win situation!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: mr_b on July 24, 2011, 08:28:36 PM
Former Whitewater standout Kevin Tomasiewicz has been named pitching coach for North Park. (http://www.northpark.edu/Athletics/Viking-News/Current-News/Baseball-names-new-pitching-coach)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on August 10, 2011, 11:45:55 AM
A couple of transfers coming to WHITEWATER who will make immediate contributions. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on August 10, 2011, 01:28:28 PM
Got a link for us to look at or at least some names? 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: El Hombre on August 21, 2011, 06:57:53 PM
What's in the future for Jeff Donovan?  Any interest during the draft?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on September 20, 2011, 09:58:32 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on June 22, 2011, 11:10:05 AM
Hanke could be one of those studs, anybody hear anything recently on his decision?
Stevens Point it is....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on September 20, 2011, 10:12:10 PM
While I know quite a few things can change between the fall and the beginning of the season in March, here are a couple of reports I have come across from the first couple weeks of Fall Ball:

1.  Andrew Eichstaedt has left the Whitewater baseball team.  Conflicting stories regarding what led to the decision.

2.  All Midwest Region C Nick Skala has transferred from Concordia-Chicago to Stevens Point.  He has one year of eligibility remaining.

3.  All Midwest Region 1B Blake Berger is back on the field for Oshkosh.

4. Former Oshkosh All American 2B Jeremy Jirschele is now an Assistant Coach for Stevens Point.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on September 22, 2011, 11:06:18 AM
What's with  Eichstaedt?  He's unhappy in Oshkosh and now he's unhappy at WHITEWATER.  Does he plan on playing for a different program annually?

Sorry to see him go.  He would have helped the team this year.  But I suspect we'll manage to get a long without him. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on September 22, 2011, 11:25:39 PM
Nice to see Jirschele is assistant at Point I'm thinking that will really help the program.  Point's offense should be loaded but pitching will be the big question.  Did they get any pitching via transfer?  Where is Eichstadt going to play next?  He would certainly help Point.  Hanke is going to be at Point for 1-2 years and get drafted in top 5 rounds.  Is the Pointer fall game over with already or when is it?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on September 23, 2011, 10:31:42 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on September 22, 2011, 11:25:39 PM
Nice to see Jirschele is assistant at Point I'm thinking that will really help the program.  Point's offense should be loaded but pitching will be the big question.  Did they get any pitching via transfer?  Where is Eichstadt going to play next?  He would certainly help Point.  Hanke is going to be at Point for 1-2 years and get drafted in top 5 rounds.  Is the Pointer fall game over with already or when is it?

He will not be eligible for the draft until after his third year at Point.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on October 06, 2011, 09:25:14 PM
How was Point's fall game?  Any observations or newcomers that stood out?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on November 08, 2011, 02:54:14 PM
Vodenlich to manage in the Northwoods League....http://www.dailyunion.com/main.asp?SectionID=37&SubSectionID=119&ArticleID=9985
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on November 09, 2011, 12:46:15 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on November 08, 2011, 02:54:14 PM
Vodenlich to manage in the Northwoods League....http://www.dailyunion.com/main.asp?SectionID=37&SubSectionID=119&ArticleID=9985

This can, and will, be a great recruiting tool for UW-W as many players in this league transfer schools as a result of the relationships they form with their NWL coaches.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on November 09, 2011, 08:47:07 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on November 09, 2011, 12:46:15 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on November 08, 2011, 02:54:14 PM
Vodenlich to manage in the Northwoods League....http://www.dailyunion.com/main.asp?SectionID=37&SubSectionID=119&ArticleID=9985

This can, and will, be a great recruiting tool for UW-W as many players in this league transfer schools as a result of the relationships they form with their NWL coaches.
At the same time, this opportunity may give Vodenlich the chance to move up the coaching ladder if he do desires...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on November 12, 2011, 01:02:22 PM
Kind of stealing this idea off the basketball board, but with it being the middle of the off-season, maybe it will draw up some interest.  The WIAC is putting together an All Time team for each of the different sports it sponsors in recognition of their 100 year anniversary. 

Any thoughts on what the baseball team would look like?

Here are some guys that I feel would be deserving:

P-Jarrod Washburn-Oshkosh
P-Jordan Zimmerman-Stevens Point
P-Brady Endl-Whitewater
P-Bill Verbrick-Stevens Point
P-Ryan Callahan-Whitewater
P-Andy Kimball-Oshkosh

C-Casey Kopitzke-Oshkosh
1B-Jeff Donovan-Whitewater
1B-Craig Lieder-Oshkosh
2B-Jeremy Jirschele-Oshkosh
SS-Tim Jorgensen-Oshkosh
SS-Vinnie Rottino-La Crosse
3B-Terry Jorgensen-Oshkosh
3B-Aaron Richartz-Oshkosh
OF-Chris Delarwelle-Oshkosh
OF-Jeff Zappa-Oshkosh
OF-Nolan Fadness-Oshkosh
OF-Scott Mann-Oshkosh
OF-Pat Tobiasz-Whitewater
UT-Vince Mancuso-Oshkosh
UT-Seth Maier-Stout

Not sure how many of these guys will actually make it, but I thought it was a start.  Obviously I am missing a few guys, so who are they?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on November 14, 2011, 10:02:02 AM
Quote from: cubs on November 12, 2011, 01:02:22 PM
Kind of stealing this idea off the basketball board, but with it being the middle of the off-season, maybe it will draw up some interest.  The WIAC is putting together an All Time team for each of the different sports it sponsors in recognition of their 100 year anniversary. 

Any thoughts on what the baseball team would look like?

Here are some guys that I feel would be deserving:

P-Jarrod Washburn-Oshkosh
P-Jordan Zimmerman-Stevens Point
P-Brady Endl-Whitewater
P-Bill Verbrick-Stevens Point
P-Ryan Callahan-Whitewater
P-Andy Kimball-Oshkosh

C-Casey Kopitzke-Oshkosh
1B-Jeff Donovan-Whitewater
1B-Craig Lieder-Oshkosh
2B-Jeremy Jirschele-Oshkosh
SS-Tim Jorgensen-Oshkosh
SS-Vinnie Rottino-La Crosse
3B-Terry Jorgensen-Oshkosh
3B-Aaron Richartz-Oshkosh
OF-Chris Delarwelle-Oshkosh
OF-Jeff Zappa-Oshkosh
OF-Nolan Fadness-Oshkosh
OF-Scott Mann-Oshkosh
OF-Pat Tobiasz-Whitewater
UT-Vince Mancuso-Oshkosh
UT-Seth Maier-Stout

Not sure how many of these guys will actually make it, but I thought it was a start.  Obviously I am missing a few guys, so who are they?

Jim Gantner- Oshkosh
Mark Hinske (father of current Braves OF Eric Hinske... Mark was a phenomenal player for Oshkosh in the 70's as a teammate of Gantner)
Bob Wickman- Whitewater

I like the list, but I feel all of your players listed are within the past 20 years. It may be correct, but it negates the first 80 years of WIAC baseball.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on November 14, 2011, 10:21:23 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on November 14, 2011, 10:02:02 AM
Jim Gantner- Oshkosh
Mark Hinske (father of current Braves OF Eric Hinske... Mark was a phenomenal player for Oshkosh in the 70's as a teammate of Gantner)
Bob Wickman- Whitewater

I like the list, but I feel all of your players listed are within the past 20 years. It may be correct, but it negates the first 80 years of WIAC baseball.
I had thought about Wickman but didn't list him because he only had one All Conference selection season (as did Hinske, while Gantner had two.)  Not sure if the team will be picked based off of best players regardless of how long they played in the WIAC, or if WIAC longevity will be a factor.  Another guy that I would put in your grouping would be Gary Varsho-Oshkosh.

As far as my list going back 20 years (give me at least 25 ;D) it's hard to find records and statistics for players before 1972.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on January 10, 2012, 10:44:00 PM
Just a couple months before the season starts, Seth Maier resigns as Head Coach of the Stout baseball team to take a job in the private sector.

http://www.wiacsports.com/news/2011/12/30/BB_1230115510.aspx
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SUMMIT!!!!! on January 17, 2012, 02:04:01 PM
Tthis morning's Minneapolis Star-Tribune reports that UW-Stout hired Toby Gardenhire (20-something son of Ron) as its new baseball coach.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on January 17, 2012, 03:38:18 PM
Toby Gardenhire, age 29,  has played in the Minnesota Twins organization for several years.  A career .228 hitter in the minor leagues he has the distinction of having played all nine defensive positions including pitcher. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BDB on January 18, 2012, 02:33:44 PM
Here's a link to the story: http://athletics.uwstout.edu/news/2012/1/17/BB_0117125329.aspx?path=baseball
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 13, 2012, 12:24:32 PM
Well now that it is listed in print (Wisconsin Baseball Coaches Association Yearbook) I figured I would pass along a couple of names that could have an impact for Oshkosh this season.  They have three D1 transfers joining the baseball team this year.

Former Central Michigan Chippewa Brock Guetzke has joined the Titans with two years of eligibility remaining.  I'm not sure where he will be playing, but I would be willing to bet he will be starting somewhere, possibly first base.  This transfer shouldn't come as much of a surprise as he played with the Oshkosh Giants this past summer.

Oshkosh native Trey Demler has traded in the football pads at the University of North Dakota for the baseball cleats at UWO.  It will be interesting to see what kind of impact he will have after being away from the game for over a year.

UW Milwaukee recruit Michael Polcyn decides to forego the scholarship money and play at the D3 level.  With all four years of eligibility, he could be the type of kid that you build a line-up around later in his career.

For a team that struggled at times offensively last year, these additions could be a step towards fixing that issue.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: thrunt01 on February 13, 2012, 12:43:38 PM
Quote from: cubs on February 13, 2012, 12:24:32 PM
Well now that it is listed in print (Wisconsin Baseball Coaches Association Yearbook) I figured I would pass along a couple of names that could have an impact for Oshkosh this season.  They have three D1 transfers joining the baseball team this year.

Former Central Michigan Chippewa Brock Guetzke has joined the Titans with two years of eligibility remaining.  I'm not sure where he will be playing, but I would be willing to bet he will be starting somewhere, possibly first base.  This transfer shouldn't come as much of a surprise as he played with the Oshkosh Giants this past summer.

Oshkosh native Trey Demler has traded in the football pads at the University of North Dakota for the baseball cleats at UWO.  It will be interesting to see what kind of impact he will have after being away from the game for over a year.

UW Milwaukee recruit Michael Polcyn decides to forego the scholarship money and play at the D3 level.  With all four years of eligibility, he could be the type of kid that you build a line-up around later in his career.

For a team that struggled at times offensively last year, these additions could be a step towards fixing that issue.

All these additions will be huge for the Titans. I can't wait for the official rosters to see the rest of the comings and goings on the teams. I saw Demler play in high school, obviously he was pretty good but I'm looking for another Oshkosh native, Eric Stenson, to hopefully make a big leap this year (if he is back on the team).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on February 28, 2012, 09:12:56 AM
Point's roster has been posted...I have heard some great things on the incoming recruits, Point really reloaded after losing their top 3 arms.  I heard from a high school coach of one of the incoming pitchers that he's been clocked at 91 as a freshman...should be an extremely fun team to follow this year and looking forward to following the young guys like Feyeriesen, Coady, Hanke, Freemen, Giese, Ziegel and B Nelson's careers....Point even has a Chinese guy on the roster, don't know anything about him but his bio sounds impressive.  How is everyone else's roster shaping up??
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on February 29, 2012, 11:24:36 AM
UW-WHITEWATER selected to host NCAA MidWest Regional in 2012

NCAA news: If you missed the story on the front page, the championships committee approved the following regional hosts for the 2012 championship. Based on the access ratio, the championship will increase from 55 to 56 teams in 2012.

Central – USA Stadium in Millington, Tenn. (Rhodes College, host)
Mid-Atlantic – First Energy Park in Lakewood, N.J. (Kean University, host)
Mideast – Don Schaly Stadium in Marietta, Ohio (Marietta College, host)
Midwest – Prucha Field in Whitewater, Wis. (University of Wisconsin-Whitewater, host)
New England – Mansfield Complex in Mansfield, Conn. (Eastern Connecticut State University, host)
New York – Baseball Complex in Farmingdale, N.Y. (State University of New York at Farmingdale, host)
South – Captains Park in Newport News, Va. (Christopher Newport University, host)
West – Roy Helser Field in McMinnville, Ore. (Linfield College, host)

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: thrunt01 on February 29, 2012, 01:27:47 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on February 28, 2012, 09:12:56 AM
Point's roster has been posted...I have heard some great things on the incoming recruits, Point really reloaded after losing their top 3 arms.  I heard from a high school coach of one of the incoming pitchers that he's been clocked at 91 as a freshman...should be an extremely fun team to follow this year and looking forward to following the young guys like Feyeriesen, Coady, Hanke, Freemen, Giese, Ziegel and B Nelson's careers....Point even has a Chinese guy on the roster, don't know anything about him but his bio sounds impressive.  How is everyone else's roster shaping up??

Platteville's is up and I recognize maybe 2 names.
Stout's is also up and same story as UWP but to be fair I didn't see them play last year.
Superior is up, although it says 2011 at the top it is for this season, and I see a few more names I recognize
Nothing from UWO, UWW or UWL yet.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on February 29, 2012, 04:39:07 PM
WW's roster is now posted.  I have to say I know basically nothing about the newcomers.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 29, 2012, 05:55:59 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on February 29, 2012, 04:39:07 PM
WW's roster is now posted.  I have to say I know basically nothing about the newcomers.
Justin Lambert noticably missing from the Whitewater roster....  He pitched well for them at the end of last season, and would have rounded out the 4-man weekend rotation with Stewart, Leitner, and either Lee/Larsen.

With that said, Whitewater doesn't have a guy on their roster who pitched more than 30 innings for the Warhawks in 2011.  It will be interesting to see how the pitching comes along.  Stewart is definitely a HUGE pick-up for them.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 29, 2012, 06:09:26 PM
Quote from: thrunt01 on February 29, 2012, 01:27:47 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on February 28, 2012, 09:12:56 AM
Point's roster has been posted...I have heard some great things on the incoming recruits, Point really reloaded after losing their top 3 arms.  I heard from a high school coach of one of the incoming pitchers that he's been clocked at 91 as a freshman...should be an extremely fun team to follow this year and looking forward to following the young guys like Feyeriesen, Coady, Hanke, Freemen, Giese, Ziegel and B Nelson's careers....Point even has a Chinese guy on the roster, don't know anything about him but his bio sounds impressive.  How is everyone else's roster shaping up??
Platteville's is up and I recognize maybe 2 names.
Stout's is also up and same story as UWP but to be fair I didn't see them play last year.
Superior is up, although it says 2011 at the top it is for this season, and I see a few more names I recognize
Nothing from UWO, UWW or UWL yet.
Really?  They return three of their top hitters in Kattre, Jacobson, and Ney, two of which received All WIAC Honorable Mention honors last season.  They also return their top pitcher in Oppreicht as well.  While there might be a few names that aren't familiar, it's not as if they had a complete overhaul to their roster.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on February 29, 2012, 06:42:22 PM
Quote from: cubs on February 29, 2012, 05:55:59 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on February 29, 2012, 04:39:07 PM
WW's roster is now posted.  I have to say I know basically nothing about the newcomers.
Justin Lambert noticably missing from the Whitewater roster....  He pitched well for them at the end of last season, and would have rounded out the 4-man weekend rotation with Stewart, Leitner, and either Lee/Larsen.

With that said, Whitewater doesn't have a guy on their roster who pitched more than 30 innings for the Warhawks in 2011.  It will be interesting to see how the pitching comes along.  Stewart is definitely a HUGE pick-up for them.

I looked up the newcomers for Whitewater to see what I could find out.  Like you say, Stewart should be a huge pickup for his last year.  Throws high 80s and should instantly jump in and be their ace.  The Junior College transfer pitchers had some very unimpressive ERA's from what I saw, anyone know what kind of competition they faced?  Don't quote me on this, but I think one of the JC pitchers had an ERA close to 7, with the other having one close to 10.  Either way, Stewart and Leitner is a good combo at the top of the rotation.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: thrunt01 on March 01, 2012, 04:28:13 AM
Quote from: cubs on February 29, 2012, 06:09:26 PM
Quote from: thrunt01 on February 29, 2012, 01:27:47 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on February 28, 2012, 09:12:56 AM
Point's roster has been posted...I have heard some great things on the incoming recruits, Point really reloaded after losing their top 3 arms.  I heard from a high school coach of one of the incoming pitchers that he's been clocked at 91 as a freshman...should be an extremely fun team to follow this year and looking forward to following the young guys like Feyeriesen, Coady, Hanke, Freemen, Giese, Ziegel and B Nelson's careers....Point even has a Chinese guy on the roster, don't know anything about him but his bio sounds impressive.  How is everyone else's roster shaping up??
Platteville's is up and I recognize maybe 2 names.
Stout's is also up and same story as UWP but to be fair I didn't see them play last year.
Superior is up, although it says 2011 at the top it is for this season, and I see a few more names I recognize
Nothing from UWO, UWW or UWL yet.
Really?  They return three of their top hitters in Kattre, Jacobson, and Ney, two of which received All WIAC Honorable Mention honors last season.  They also return their top pitcher in Oppreicht as well.  While there might be a few names that aren't familiar, it's not as if they had a complete overhaul to their roster.

Fair enough. I'm speaking in these cases as a big time outsider so when I'm talking about names I recognize its mostly about guys that really stand out, at least to me obviously. Ney was one of those names.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on March 01, 2012, 09:23:25 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on February 29, 2012, 06:42:22 PM
Quote from: cubs on February 29, 2012, 05:55:59 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on February 29, 2012, 04:39:07 PM
WW's roster is now posted.  I have to say I know basically nothing about the newcomers.
Justin Lambert noticably missing from the Whitewater roster....  He pitched well for them at the end of last season, and would have rounded out the 4-man weekend rotation with Stewart, Leitner, and either Lee/Larsen.

With that said, Whitewater doesn't have a guy on their roster who pitched more than 30 innings for the Warhawks in 2011.  It will be interesting to see how the pitching comes along.  Stewart is definitely a HUGE pick-up for them.



I looked up the newcomers for Whitewater to see what I could find out.  Like you say, Stewart should be a huge pickup for his last year.  Throws high 80s and should instantly jump in and be their ace.  The Junior College transfer pitchers had some very unimpressive ERA's from what I saw, anyone know what kind of competition they faced?  Don't quote me on this, but I think one of the JC pitchers had an ERA close to 7, with the other having one close to 10.  Either way, Stewart and Leitner is a good combo at the top of the rotation.

Zander and Huckabay had ERAs of 3.10 and 3.03 respectively with MATC last year. 

http://madisoncollegeathletics.com/custompages/Statistics/Baseball/2011/teamcume.htm
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 01, 2012, 09:36:49 AM
Quote from: Barber Greene on March 01, 2012, 09:23:25 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on February 29, 2012, 06:42:22 PM
Quote from: cubs on February 29, 2012, 05:55:59 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on February 29, 2012, 04:39:07 PM
WW's roster is now posted.  I have to say I know basically nothing about the newcomers.
Justin Lambert noticably missing from the Whitewater roster....  He pitched well for them at the end of last season, and would have rounded out the 4-man weekend rotation with Stewart, Leitner, and either Lee/Larsen.

With that said, Whitewater doesn't have a guy on their roster who pitched more than 30 innings for the Warhawks in 2011.  It will be interesting to see how the pitching comes along.  Stewart is definitely a HUGE pick-up for them.



I looked up the newcomers for Whitewater to see what I could find out.  Like you say, Stewart should be a huge pickup for his last year.  Throws high 80s and should instantly jump in and be their ace.  The Junior College transfer pitchers had some very unimpressive ERA's from what I saw, anyone know what kind of competition they faced?  Don't quote me on this, but I think one of the JC pitchers had an ERA close to 7, with the other having one close to 10.  Either way, Stewart and Leitner is a good combo at the top of the rotation.

Zander and Huckabay had ERAs of 3.10 and 3.03 respectively with MATC last year. 

http://madisoncollegeathletics.com/custompages/Statistics/Baseball/2011/teamcume.htm

Thanks, I didn't look into that well...I must have found stats from 2 years ago or something.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 01, 2012, 09:46:14 AM
Colin Grove is another pitcher who should see innings this year.  He had an impressive start to the season last year before injury sidelined him.  Eric Schmitz and Matthew Roberts also. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 02, 2012, 09:19:16 PM
My preseason top 5 for conference.
1.  Oshkosh-  Solid 1-2 with Westphal and Schreiber.  Offense should be really good in the middle with Van Abel, Polcyn, and Mullendore.  Should have great shot at 1rst or 2nd in regionals.

2.  LaCrosse- Pitching will be excellent and offense should be better than average.  I know it's a stretch but I like their pitching more than Points and Whitewaters.

3.  Point-  Probably best offense in league with Douglas, Barnes, Hanke, Gerber, Jirschele,and Clark but don't know if the pitching will be good enough.  I'm a huge Wendorf fan but he'll have to be big time for Point to have shot at title.  Iverson may need to move to rotation.  Will be relying a lot on freshman and if they come through maybe they'll be better.

4.  Whitewater-  I honestly don't know much about their team but know Leitner was really good 2 yrs ago.  Hard to bounce back from Tommy John if that's what he had.  Their ace sounds like he'll be legit.  What do they return on offense?  Could easily see them finishing 1rst or 2nd but think they'll struggle with the bats early in the year.

5.  Platteville-  Solid 3-4 hitters in their lineup and could surprise.  Have 2 really good pitchers at the top but not spectacular.

I see the conference being as balanced as ever.  Easily could see Superior taking 2 out of 4 from the top teams.  Should be another great year and will be interesting to see how the WIAC stacks up against St. Thomas and St. Scholastica this year.  Really think Point's offense could put up 8-12 runs per game this year.  Anyone know what Points rotation will be for sure?  What happened to Eric Van Beck?  I thought he was a junior last year.  Is Hanke looking good on the mound or will he be a DH?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 02, 2012, 09:28:36 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 02, 2012, 09:19:16 PM
My preseason top 5 for conference.
1.  Oshkosh-  Solid 1-2 with Westphal and Schreiber.  Offense should be really good in the middle with Van Abel, Polcyn, and Mullendore.  Should have great shot at 1rst or 2nd in regionals.

2.  LaCrosse- Pitching will be excellent and offense should be better than average.  I know it's a stretch but I like their pitching more than Points and Whitewaters.

3.  Point-  Probably best offense in league with Douglas, Barnes, Hanke, Gerber, Jirschele,and Clark but don't know if the pitching will be good enough.  I'm a huge Wendorf fan but he'll have to be big time for Point to have shot at title.  Iverson may need to move to rotation.  Will be relying a lot on freshman and if they come through maybe they'll be better.

4.  Whitewater-  I honestly don't know much about their team but know Leitner was really good 2 yrs ago.  Hard to bounce back from Tommy John if that's what he had.  Their ace sounds like he'll be legit.  What do they return on offense?  Could easily see them finishing 1rst or 2nd but think they'll struggle with the bats early in the year.

5.  Platteville-  Solid 3-4 hitters in their lineup and could surprise.  Have 2 really good pitchers at the top but not spectacular.

I see the conference being as balanced as ever.  Easily could see Superior taking 2 out of 4 from the top teams.  Should be another great year and will be interesting to see how the WIAC stacks up against St. Thomas and St. Scholastica this year.  Really think Point's offense could put up 8-12 runs per game this year.  Anyone know what Points rotation will be for sure?  What happened to Eric Van Beck?  I thought he was a junior last year.  Is Hanke looking good on the mound or will he be a DH?

I'll know more about Point's pitching after Sundays doubleheader.  Their lineup will be extremely strong, which should help a young pitching staff.  I have heard great things about the freshman pitchers so I think Point's pitching may be a little better this year than expected.  And, I think next year, Point will be absolutely stacked.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 02, 2012, 09:35:53 PM
I was out for a job earlier and thought the same thing about Pointer baseball for next yr.  I'm not counting them out this year either but am obviously going into the season with lower expectations after losing 3 studs in Williams, Delorit, and Koback.  I wish Jirsch was a jr this year so they had him back next year also.  I'm guessing Bloom will split up innings on Sunday and give their top guys 2-3 at the most.  I am really looking forward to their spring trip and seeing how they do against the Tommies.  Looks like they may have top 5 rotation in the country this year.  No one is beating Marietta this year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 02, 2012, 09:44:10 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 02, 2012, 09:35:53 PM
I was out for a job earlier and thought the same thing about Pointer baseball for next yr.  I'm not counting them out this year either but am obviously going into the season with lower expectations after losing 3 studs in Williams, Delorit, and Koback.  I wish Jirsch was a jr this year so they had him back next year also.  I'm guessing Bloom will split up innings on Sunday and give their top guys 2-3 at the most.  I am really looking forward to their spring trip and seeing how they do against the Tommies.  Looks like they may have top 5 rotation in the country this year.  No one is beating Marietta this year.

Yeah, losing their top 3 pitchers from last year's team is tough to overcome, but I couldn't be happier with how Bloom reloaded with arms.  He got some of the best high school talent in Feyeriesen, Hanke, Ziegel and Nelson.  When you throw in the sophomores Wendorf and Stroik, that has the makings of a very deep and talented rotation in a year or 2.  For this year, I still have high expectations though.  I think their lineup alone is going to win them a lot of games.  With how many runs Point should score, the pitching only needs to be average. 

On another note, Point got some really good hitters in this freshman class as well.  Coady, Giese, Freeman and Hanke (when he's not pitching) have loads of potential at the plate.  The transfer Shilter will probably instantly step in at catcher and hit very well.  Basketball season just ended so now I'm just really excited to see this young team gel.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 02, 2012, 09:55:26 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 02, 2012, 09:19:16 PM
What happened to Eric Van Beck?  I thought he was a junior last year. 
He was a junior.... 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 02, 2012, 09:57:43 PM
Nothing like being in the company of Lou Brock and Nomar Garciaparra!!!!  Congrats to Tim Jorgensen on his induction into the College Baseball Hall of Fame!!!!

http://www.titans.uwosh.edu/Baseball/
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 02, 2012, 10:03:46 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 02, 2012, 09:57:43 PM
Nothing like being in the company of Lou Brock and Nomar Garciaparra!!!!  Congrats to Tim Jorgensen on his induction into the College Baseball Hall of Fame!!!!

http://www.titans.uwosh.edu/Baseball/

I've played some fastpitch against Jorgensen, hell of a player!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 02, 2012, 10:08:27 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 02, 2012, 10:03:46 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 02, 2012, 09:57:43 PM
Nothing like being in the company of Lou Brock and Nomar Garciaparra!!!!  Congrats to Tim Jorgensen on his induction into the College Baseball Hall of Fame!!!!

http://www.titans.uwosh.edu/Baseball/

I've played some fastpitch against Jorgensen, hell of a player!!!
I still remember the game he hit for the Home Run Cycle as if it was yesterday...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 02, 2012, 10:17:26 PM
Is Blake Berger playing for Oshkosh this year?  If so I like them ever more.  If Van Beck was a Jr. what happened to him?  Did he transfer or is he just not playing?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 02, 2012, 11:17:38 PM
I played against Jorgy in three college world series and it was clear that he was in a different class than the rest of the players on both teams. The guy hit 42(not a typo) bombs in '95 and drove in over 100 in under 50 games. Unreal!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 02, 2012, 11:23:21 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 02, 2012, 11:17:38 PM
I played against Jorgy in three college world series and it was clear that he was in a different class than the rest of the players on both teams. The guy hit 42(not a typo) bombs in '95 and drove in over 100 in under 50 games. Unreal!
His numbers must have gotten better over time!!!!  ;D

I think 39 HR's was his career high in 1995, which was done in just 41 games (I assume he didn't play in three games as UWO went 39-5 in 1995.)  You feel bad for a guy like Craig Lieder who hit 23 HR's that same season but was just an after-thought.  Lieder's 23 would still be a conference record if not for the unreal numbers from Jorgy.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 02, 2012, 11:47:14 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 02, 2012, 10:08:27 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 02, 2012, 10:03:46 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 02, 2012, 09:57:43 PM
Nothing like being in the company of Lou Brock and Nomar Garciaparra!!!!  Congrats to Tim Jorgensen on his induction into the College Baseball Hall of Fame!!!!

http://www.titans.uwosh.edu/Baseball/

I've played some fastpitch against Jorgensen, hell of a player!!!
I still remember the game he hit for the Home Run Cycle as if it was yesterday...
That's the highlight I'll always remember too. Eau Claire quit the game after that day.

It was surprising when someone actually got Jorgensen out. He was on another level.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 03, 2012, 07:39:53 AM
Quote from: cubs on March 02, 2012, 11:23:21 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 02, 2012, 11:17:38 PM
I played against Jorgy in three college world series and it was clear that he was in a different class than the rest of the players on both teams. The guy hit 42(not a typo) bombs in '95 and drove in over 100 in under 50 games. Unreal!
His numbers must have gotten better over time!!!!  ;D

I think 39 HR's was his career high in 1995, which was done in just 41 games (I assume he didn't play in three games as UWO went 39-5 in 1995.)  You feel bad for a guy like Craig Lieder who hit 23 HR's that same season but was just an after-thought.  Lieder's 23 would still be a conference record if not for the unreal numbers from Jorgy.
I think hit three in Salem that year to push his 39 to 42... Maybe I am wrong but it sure felt like it as he circled the bases against us.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: thrunt01 on March 05, 2012, 12:31:07 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 02, 2012, 10:17:26 PM
Is Blake Berger playing for Oshkosh this year?  If so I like them ever more.  If Van Beck was a Jr. what happened to him?  Did he transfer or is he just not playing?

Nope, no go on the Berger front. Also in an earlier post you seemed pretty confident in Schreiber. I do not share in that sentiment what so ever. I'm not entirely sure he's still on the team. We'll see when the official roster finally gets posted, which will probably be 3/12 at 4:59pm
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 05, 2012, 07:24:05 AM
Transfer Ryan Schilter 4X4 last evening for the Pointers.  I had heard they had a solid catcher transfer but wasn't sure what his name was.  Anyone know what Iverson is being clocked at? 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 05, 2012, 08:48:04 AM
Quote from: thrunt01 on March 05, 2012, 12:31:07 AM
Nope, no go on the Berger front. Also in an earlier post you seemed pretty confident in Schreiber. I do not share in that sentiment what so ever. I'm not entirely sure he's still on the team. We'll see when the official roster finally gets posted, which will probably be 3/12 at 4:59pm
Rest assured the roster will be posted by the end of the week.  I'm guessing it will be up by Thursday.  What's the big deal anyway?  They could post a roster in the middle of April and it wouldn't matter.  You would still have the boxscores to look at and see who is playing.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 05, 2012, 08:50:00 AM
Point sweeps a pair from Gustavus Adolphus to open the season 2-0.

Also of note, Honorable Mention All WIAC pitcher Mitch Running missing from the La Crosse roster.  I believe he still had two years of eligibility remaining.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 05, 2012, 10:03:28 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 03, 2012, 07:39:53 AM
Quote from: cubs on March 02, 2012, 11:23:21 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 02, 2012, 11:17:38 PM
I played against Jorgy in three college world series and it was clear that he was in a different class than the rest of the players on both teams. The guy hit 42(not a typo) bombs in '95 and drove in over 100 in under 50 games. Unreal!
His numbers must have gotten better over time!!!!  ;D

I think 39 HR's was his career high in 1995, which was done in just 41 games (I assume he didn't play in three games as UWO went 39-5 in 1995.)  You feel bad for a guy like Craig Lieder who hit 23 HR's that same season but was just an after-thought.  Lieder's 23 would still be a conference record if not for the unreal numbers from Jorgy.
I think hit three in Salem that year to push his 39 to 42... Maybe I am wrong but it sure felt like it as he circled the bases against us.

I wasn't around at the time, but I've always wondered why he got so many pitches to hit. Didn't teams just start walking him?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 05, 2012, 10:53:47 AM
I was at the DH in the Metrodome last night, got there around the 3rd or 4th inning of the first game so I'm not positive on who started the first game.  I was a little disappointed not to see any of the freshman throw but most of the Pointers who did throw looked pretty good.  I saw Frederick and Seidl throw in the first game....then Flood, Herbst and Iverson threw the second game.  Frederick, Seidl and Iverson all looked impressive.  They looked to throw pretty hard and had some good offspeed pitching working as well.  Flood looked awful, he couldn't find the zone with anything but a fastball....and even at times couldn't find the zone with that.  Herbst was hit or miss.  At times, he struggled to find the zone..others he looked pretty good.  A rotation with Stroik, Wendorf, Frederick and Seidl looks to be better than I imagined at the beginning of the year.

Before I get into the hitting, I want to say that I doubt any D3 team can get better defensively than Point is at 3B, SS and 2B.  Gerber, Douglas and Jirschele turned many double plays and made them look easy.  Freshman in the lineup for both games included Hanke at 1B, Coady in RF and Gregorich in LF.  Gregorich and Coady looked very good and comfortable at the plate.  Hanke on the other hand, looked the opposite.  He chased some bad pitches and just looked overmatched.  Shilter is a huge upgrade offensively for the Pointers at catcher from last year.  It's a small sample size so I don't want to get ahead of myself, but Point sure lucked out with this transfer...plus you get 2 years out of him.  Gerber struggled mightily.  I wanted to see more of him but he got a steady dose of offspeed stuff and didn't adjust.

As a team, I was pleasantly surprised with the pitching and a little underwhelmed with the hitting.  I have all the confidence in the world the bats will pick up though.  The Florida trip should be fun to follow, looking forward to the doubleheader with the Tommies.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: thrunt01 on March 05, 2012, 12:43:17 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 05, 2012, 08:48:04 AM
Quote from: thrunt01 on March 05, 2012, 12:31:07 AM
Nope, no go on the Berger front. Also in an earlier post you seemed pretty confident in Schreiber. I do not share in that sentiment what so ever. I'm not entirely sure he's still on the team. We'll see when the official roster finally gets posted, which will probably be 3/12 at 4:59pm
Rest assured the roster will be posted by the end of the week.  I'm guessing it will be up by Thursday.  What's the big deal anyway?  They could post a roster in the middle of April and it wouldn't matter.  You would still have the boxscores to look at and see who is playing.

The problem here is that part of my job is to talk about WIAC baseball and right now that means previewing the season. So it is pretty hard to analyze how a team will do when I have no idea who will even be playing for them that season. Just saying it is harder for me to do my job and provide any insight when I don't know one of the more basic elements of a team. Here's to hoping you're right about it being up Thursday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 05, 2012, 01:55:47 PM
Quote from: thrunt01 on March 05, 2012, 12:43:17 PM
The problem here is that part of my job is to talk about WIAC baseball and right now that means previewing the season. So it is pretty hard to analyze how a team will do when I have no idea who will even be playing for them that season. Just saying it is harder for me to do my job and provide any insight when I don't know one of the more basic elements of a team. Here's to hoping you're right about it being up Thursday.
Here's an idea....  Take a look at the practice schedule that is on-line and go watch a practice.  Better yet, call and set up a time to do an interview.  Don't always rely on the SID to do all the work.  Follow the lead of the baseball guy on this site who was just in talking to a WIAC head coach last week.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: thrunt01 on March 05, 2012, 04:42:34 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 05, 2012, 01:55:47 PM
Quote from: thrunt01 on March 05, 2012, 12:43:17 PM
The problem here is that part of my job is to talk about WIAC baseball and right now that means previewing the season. So it is pretty hard to analyze how a team will do when I have no idea who will even be playing for them that season. Just saying it is harder for me to do my job and provide any insight when I don't know one of the more basic elements of a team. Here's to hoping you're right about it being up Thursday.
Here's an idea....  Take a look at the practice schedule that is on-line and go watch a practice.  Better yet, call and set up a time to do an interview.  Don't always rely on the SID to do all the work.  Follow the lead of the baseball guy on this site who was just in talking to a WIAC head coach last week.

Well this conversation about my off hand comment has taken up way too much of my time and energy. Thank you for your suggestions, I'll take them into consideration. I'm looking forward to a great baseball season and no more off hand comments for me :-X.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 06, 2012, 11:45:04 AM
Quote from: thrunt01 on March 05, 2012, 04:42:34 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 05, 2012, 01:55:47 PM
Quote from: thrunt01 on March 05, 2012, 12:43:17 PM
The problem here is that part of my job is to talk about WIAC baseball and right now that means previewing the season. So it is pretty hard to analyze how a team will do when I have no idea who will even be playing for them that season. Just saying it is harder for me to do my job and provide any insight when I don't know one of the more basic elements of a team. Here's to hoping you're right about it being up Thursday.
Here's an idea....  Take a look at the practice schedule that is on-line and go watch a practice.  Better yet, call and set up a time to do an interview.  Don't always rely on the SID to do all the work.  Follow the lead of the baseball guy on this site who was just in talking to a WIAC head coach last week.

Well this conversation about my off hand comment has taken up way too much of my time and energy. Thank you for your suggestions, I'll take them into consideration. I'm looking forward to a great baseball season and no more off hand comments for me :-X.
Your wait is over.
UWO's 2012 roster (http://www.titans.uwosh.edu/Baseball/Roster.html)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 06, 2012, 05:52:08 PM
Not really any surprises with the UWO roster....

Looks like nobody notcied that La Crosse split with St. Thomas last night at the Metrodome.  That is a nice win for an Eagle team playing their first game of the season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 06, 2012, 08:14:39 PM
Oshkosh has one of the best teams on paper I've seen for a long time.  No excuses this year for not challenging for title and making a run at the World Series.  Where's Schreiber?  Did he get hurt or what?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 06, 2012, 10:37:40 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 06, 2012, 08:14:39 PM
Oshkosh has one of the best teams on paper I've seen for a long time.  No excuses this year for not challenging for title and making a run at the World Series.  Where's Schreiber?  Did he get hurt or what?

That's quite an outrageous comment to make in a year there are 4 teams that can easily compete for a conference title.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 06, 2012, 10:40:57 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 06, 2012, 08:14:39 PM
Oshkosh has one of the best teams on paper I've seen for a long time.  No excuses this year for not challenging for title and making a run at the World Series.  Where's Schreiber?  Did he get hurt or what?
First of all championships aren't won on paper....  Secondly, with the way the WIAC schedule is set up with a minimum of 4-nine inning games per week, pitching depth is necessary.  Oshkosh returns a total of THREE pitchers that logged meaningful innings last season. They are going to need some other arms to step up in order to for your projections to come to fruition.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 06, 2012, 10:56:09 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 06, 2012, 10:37:40 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 06, 2012, 08:14:39 PM
Oshkosh has one of the best teams on paper I've seen for a long time.  No excuses this year for not challenging for title and making a run at the World Series.  Where's Schreiber?  Did he get hurt or what?

That's quite an outrageous comment to make in a year there are 4 teams that can easily compete for a conference title.
That's par for the course for pickleshiner errr I mean Shinetime....  It will only get worse when Point loses a game to someone they shouldn't and he jumps on the Finlandia bandwagon again.   :P
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 06, 2012, 11:24:20 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 06, 2012, 10:56:09 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 06, 2012, 10:37:40 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 06, 2012, 08:14:39 PM
Oshkosh has one of the best teams on paper I've seen for a long time.  No excuses this year for not challenging for title and making a run at the World Series.  Where's Schreiber?  Did he get hurt or what?

That's quite an outrageous comment to make in a year there are 4 teams that can easily compete for a conference title.
That's par for the course for pickleshiner errr I mean Shinetime....  It will only get worse when Point loses a game to someone they shouldn't and he jumps on the Finlandia bandwagon again.   :P

Oh yes...now I remember Shinetime
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 07, 2012, 08:05:19 AM
I'm just telling you guys Westphal is unbeatable especially by a WIAC team and Polcyn may get player of the year as a freshman.  Can't believe Polcyn didn't go to Point after leaving Milwaukee.  That's where he was supposed to be going.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 07, 2012, 08:21:10 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 07, 2012, 08:05:19 AM
I'm just telling you guys Westphal is unbeatable especially by a WIAC team and Polcyn may get player of the year as a freshman.  Can't believe Polcyn didn't go to Point after leaving Milwaukee.  That's where he was supposed to be going.
Even IF, and that is a BIG if, Westphal goes undefeated in WIAC games, that still leaves at least 16 (or more) games that he likely won't take the mound.  That is A LOT of games that other guys are going to have to step up and pitch well for UWO to win the WIAC.

As for Polcyn, I will take that bet any day of the week.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 07, 2012, 10:22:21 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 06, 2012, 10:37:40 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 06, 2012, 08:14:39 PM
Oshkosh has one of the best teams on paper I've seen for a long time.  No excuses this year for not challenging for title and making a run at the World Series.  Where's Schreiber?  Did he get hurt or what?

That's quite an outrageous comment to make in a year there are 4 teams that can easily compete for a conference title.

Based on his history of hysterical early season hyperbole, I was about to comment that this was one of the most, measured, reasonable opinions I've ever heard from ShineTime. In the past he would have said "the best" not "one of the best". Our little boy is growing up!  ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 07, 2012, 11:11:48 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 07, 2012, 08:05:19 AM
I'm just telling you guys Westphal is unbeatable especially by a WIAC team and Polcyn may get player of the year as a freshman.  Can't believe Polcyn didn't go to Point after leaving Milwaukee.  That's where he was supposed to be going.

I hope so... the WIAC needs Oshkosh to step up to it's former self and be more relavent on the national stage again.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 07, 2012, 11:18:59 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 07, 2012, 08:05:19 AM
I'm just telling you guys Westphal is unbeatable especially by a WIAC team and Polcyn may get player of the year as a freshman.  Can't believe Polcyn didn't go to Point after leaving Milwaukee.  That's where he was supposed to be going.

Here we go again...You may not want to believe this but I doubt Polcyn would have started at Point with Jirschele and Douglas at SS/2B.  They are both great defenders who hit around or over .400...Quite possibly, Polcyn could have been DH...Experience is very valuable, it's not often a freshman takes the conference by storm. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 07, 2012, 12:19:18 PM
1.  Douglas 2B
2.  Polcyn SS
3.  Gerber 1B
4.  Jirschele 3B
5.  Schilter C
6.  Barnes CF
7.  Mittlestadt LF
8.  Coady RF
9.  DH Clark or Hanke

I'm definitely not trying to argue but Polcyn is the real deal guys.  He had a D1 offer to Milwaukee.  Douglas is a great SS but I think he's better suited at 2B or CF.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 07, 2012, 12:40:15 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 07, 2012, 12:19:18 PM
1.  Douglas 2B
2.  Polcyn SS
3.  Gerber 1B
4.  Jirschele 3B
5.  Schilter C
6.  Barnes CF
7.  Mittlestadt LF
8.  Coady RF
9.  DH Clark or Hanke

I'm definitely not trying to argue but Polcyn is the real deal guys.  He had a D1 offer to Milwaukee.  Douglas is a great SS but I think he's better suited at 2B or CF.

I don't see how Polcyn is instantly a better defender than Douglas or Jirschele.  I may be wrong but Polcyn had a partial offer to Milwaukee, correct??  That's a big difference comparing to a full ride.  Also, don't get me wrong, any team in the WIAC would have been more than lucky to add Polcyn to this years class...I just think you are underestimating kids who have put in the work the last couple years in college and have experience playing and facing pitching at this level.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 8404DOC on March 08, 2012, 07:37:43 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 07, 2012, 12:40:15 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 07, 2012, 12:19:18 PM
1.  Douglas 2B
2.  Polcyn SS
3.  Gerber 1B
4.  Jirschele 3B
5.  Schilter C
6.  Barnes CF
7.  Mittlestadt LF
8.  Coady RF
9.  DH Clark or Hanke

I'm definitely not trying to argue but Polcyn is the real deal guys.  He had a D1 offer to Milwaukee.  Douglas is a great SS but I think he's better suited at 2B or CF.

I don't see how Polcyn is instantly a better defender than Douglas or Jirschele.  I may be wrong but Polcyn had a partial offer to Milwaukee, correct??  That's a big difference comparing to a full ride.  Also, don't get me wrong, any team in the WIAC would have been more than lucky to add Polcyn to this years class...I just think you are underestimating kids who have put in the work the last couple years in college and have experience playing and facing pitching at this level.

Polcyn will probably start the season at 3rd with Kamps at SS, Van Abel at 2nd and Beattie at 1st.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 08, 2012, 08:26:30 AM
Whitewater splits a pair of games last night against Bethel University, losing Game #1 6-2, while bouncing back to win the nightcap 9-4.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 08, 2012, 08:35:14 AM
Quote from: cubs on March 08, 2012, 08:26:30 AM
Whitewater splits a pair of games last night against Bethel University, losing Game #1 6-2, while bouncing back to win the nightcap 9-4.
Reverse it. UWW won Game 1.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 08, 2012, 08:40:08 AM
Oops!!!  I'm an idiot....   :-[

Who started for Whitewater?  Stewart in Game #1 and Leitner in Game #2?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ballfan55 on March 08, 2012, 01:10:06 PM
Frankly I am not convinced that there is a big talent difference between UW-M and the big three WIAC schools.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 08, 2012, 01:24:46 PM
Stewart started and picked up the win in the first game.  He went 3.2 innings giving up 1 unearned run on one hit and struck out 8.  Quintin Zander releived him going 2.1 innings surrendering 1 earned run on a hit and striking out a pair.  Both Stewart and Zander walked 4.  Michael Huckabay finished the final inning giving up a hit and getting a single strikeout.  WARHAWK pitchers combined to strike out 11.  The WARHAWKS had 10 hits with Marty Herum (3x4) and Matt Beyer (2x4) recording multiple hits.  Mike Mierow, Jared Fon, Herum and Dylan Friend had RBIs. 

Eric Schmitz took the loss in game two surrendering 3 hits and 3 earned runs in 2 innings of work.  Justin Mortensen relieved him for 1.1 innings in which he also surrendered 3 earned runs on 3 hits.  Tom Kerndt replaced Mortensen for 3 innings giving up 1 earned run on 2 hits.  Huckabay again finished the game going .2 inning and gave up 2 earned runs on 2 hits.  The pitching staff struggled a bit in this one walking 8 and had 4 HBP.  Fon (2x3) and Andrew Bauer (2x2) recorded multiple hits.  JT Schneider, Fon, Bauer and Friend recorded RBIs.

A double hitter with St Thomas is scheduled for today.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 08, 2012, 07:16:35 PM
St. Thomas leads Whitewater 2-0 in the 6th inning of the opener...  Junior Jack Larsen currently on the mound for the Warhawks.

EDIT-St. Thomas wins 3-0, holding Whitewater to just one hit over seven innings according to Live Stats.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 08, 2012, 10:29:39 PM
Whitewater jumps ahead early scoring three runs in the first three innings to take a 3-0 lead into the 6th inning.  St. Thomas however comes back to tie the game with one in the 6th and two in the 7th and send it to extra innings.  Whitewater then opens extra frames loading the bases with nobody out in the 8th inning and Jared Fon produces a go-ahead single to give the Warhawks a 4-3 lead.  The Warhawks tack on four more before it's over to take an 8-3 lead.  Eric Schmitz with the victory in relief for the Warhawks.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: thrunt01 on March 09, 2012, 12:51:06 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 06, 2012, 10:40:57 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 06, 2012, 08:14:39 PM
Oshkosh has one of the best teams on paper I've seen for a long time.  No excuses this year for not challenging for title and making a run at the World Series.  Where's Schreiber?  Did he get hurt or what?
First of all championships aren't won on paper....  Secondly, with the way the WIAC schedule is set up with a minimum of 4-nine inning games per week, pitching depth is necessary.  Oshkosh returns a total of THREE pitchers that logged meaningful innings last season. They are going to need some other arms to step up in order to for your projections to come to fruition.

Depth in both the field and pitching is a huge issue for this Titan team. I know Polcyn will likely play 3rd but the roster doesn't technically have a 3rd baseman and if Polcyn is moved there then there are 0 backups on the infield (at least listed). How big would the drop off be if any of the the infielders went down? My guess is pretty big so Titan fans are going to have to cross their fingers for good health for this team to contend for a championship.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 8404DOC on March 09, 2012, 03:26:06 PM
Quote from: thrunt01 on March 09, 2012, 12:51:06 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 06, 2012, 10:40:57 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 06, 2012, 08:14:39 PM
Oshkosh has one of the best teams on paper I've seen for a long time.  No excuses this year for not challenging for title and making a run at the World Series.  Where's Schreiber?  Did he get hurt or what?
First of all championships aren't won on paper....  Secondly, with the way the WIAC schedule is set up with a minimum of 4-nine inning games per week, pitching depth is necessary.  Oshkosh returns a total of THREE pitchers that logged meaningful innings last season. They are going to need some other arms to step up in order to for your projections to come to fruition.

Depth in both the field and pitching is a huge issue for this Titan team. I know Polcyn will likely play 3rd but the roster doesn't technically have a 3rd baseman and if Polcyn is moved there then there are 0 backups on the infield (at least listed). How big would the drop off be if any of the the infielders went down? My guess is pretty big so Titan fans are going to have to cross their fingers for good health for this team to contend for a championship.
Titans start the season with more questions than answers, depth is an issue both infield and pitching, the new AD forced the team to only carry 26 on the roster. Hopefully some of the young arms will get an opportunity to step up, there are a few I would like to see get some innings or a start. I have lurked on this board for the past couple of years and offered a few comments, I will be at the games next week, anybody else gonna be there?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: thrunt01 on March 12, 2012, 01:28:38 PM
Quote from: 8404DOC on March 09, 2012, 03:26:06 PM
Quote from: thrunt01 on March 09, 2012, 12:51:06 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 06, 2012, 10:40:57 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 06, 2012, 08:14:39 PM
Oshkosh has one of the best teams on paper I've seen for a long time.  No excuses this year for not challenging for title and making a run at the World Series.  Where's Schreiber?  Did he get hurt or what?
First of all championships aren't won on paper....  Secondly, with the way the WIAC schedule is set up with a minimum of 4-nine inning games per week, pitching depth is necessary.  Oshkosh returns a total of THREE pitchers that logged meaningful innings last season. They are going to need some other arms to step up in order to for your projections to come to fruition.

Depth in both the field and pitching is a huge issue for this Titan team. I know Polcyn will likely play 3rd but the roster doesn't technically have a 3rd baseman and if Polcyn is moved there then there are 0 backups on the infield (at least listed). How big would the drop off be if any of the the infielders went down? My guess is pretty big so Titan fans are going to have to cross their fingers for good health for this team to contend for a championship.
Titans start the season with more questions than answers, depth is an issue both infield and pitching, the new AD forced the team to only carry 26 on the roster. Hopefully some of the young arms will get an opportunity to step up, there are a few I would like to see get some innings or a start. I have lurked on this board for the past couple of years and offered a few comments, I will be at the games next week, anybody else gonna be there?

I'll be at the Northwestern doubleheader on the 19th.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 12, 2012, 08:47:05 PM
UWO knocks off Hamline in Game #1 today 9-3.  Trailing 3-1 heading into the bottom of the 5th, the Titans score three runs in the fifth to take a 4-3 lead, and add on five more in the sixth inning to open things up.  Matt Wells picks up the victory giving up three runs (all earned) in 5.1 innings on three hits and three walks.  Troy Mrkvicka came on to throw 1.2 innings of scoreless relief to pick up the save.  A pair of freshmen lead the Titans offensively as Michael Polcyn and Luke Gajewski each had two hits in the opener.  Senior catcher Alex Mullendore added a pair of doubles and Junior Brock Guetzke reached base in all four of his plate appearances with three walks and a single as UWO out-hit Hamline 10-6. 

Game #2 to start shortly, with sophomore James Lacy getting the start for UWO.  Lacy is a converted catcher, who saw limited playing time last season for the Titans.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 12, 2012, 08:50:49 PM
Quote from: 8404DOC on March 09, 2012, 03:26:06 PM
Titans start the season with more questions than answers, depth is an issue both infield and pitching, the new AD forced the team to only carry 26 on the roster. Hopefully some of the young arms will get an opportunity to step up, there are a few I would like to see get some innings or a start. I have lurked on this board for the past couple of years and offered a few comments, I will be at the games next week, anybody else gonna be there?
Looks like 30 guys listed on the roster....  Maybe just 26 get to travel?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 12, 2012, 11:13:06 PM
After jumping out to a 6-0 lead in the nightcap, UWO gives up one run in the fourth inning, four runs in the fifth inning, and three runs in the sixth inning (on just one hit) to fall to Hamline 8-7. 

Sophomore James Lacy threw well over the first four innings, but was hit hard in the fifth giving up a pair of run scoring triples which closed the gap to 6-5.  Mrkvicka came on in relief in the sixth inning and strugggled with control giving up a single and a pair of walks to load the bases.  He gave way to Travis Sindles who appeared like he may be able to get out of the inning after striking out the first batter he faced for the second out of the sixth inning.  Unfortunately he hit the next two batters which forced in a pair of runs to give Hamline a 7-6 lead.  Chris Terzic was the third pitcher of the inning, and he promptly walked in another run to make it 8-6 before getting a bases loaded pop-up to end the inning.  Hamline uses three walks, two hit batters, and just one hit to turn a 6-5 deficit into an 8-6 lead.

The Titans threatened in the Top of the seventh inning with three straight singles to cut the deficit in half at 8-7 and there was still nobody out.  A sac bunt to move runners up to second and third was the first out of the inning, but a pop out to the shortstop and a strike out ended the threat and the game.

Offensively, eight of the nine starters had at least one hit with Kyle Van Abel leading the way.  Van Abel was a triple short of the cycle, however he was the only Titan with multiple hits.

Be interested to see how Westphal does against St. Thomas tomorrow.  Just excited to have the baseball season get underway!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 13, 2012, 02:26:36 PM
Oshkosh drops Game #1 to St. Thomas today by a score of 3-1.

After jumping ahead 1-0 in the second inning thanks to a Tyler Kamps double and an errant pick-off attempt, the Titans struggled offensively against UST's Steve Maher.  Maher retired 10 straight batters starting with the last out in the second inning until being relieved by Dylan Thomas in the sixth inning.   

UWO's Brock Guetzke nearly matched Maher, but unearned runs in the third and fourth innings gave the Tommies a 2-1 lead.  UST manufactured an insurance run in the fifth inning to build their lead to 3-1.

Frehsman Luke Gajewski promptly greeted Thomas in the sixth inning with a lead off single, and fellow freshman Michael Polcyn doubled to put runners on second and third with one out.  Thomas was able to strand both runners however as he struck out both Guetzke and Kamps (the Titans #3 and #4 hitters) to get out of the inning.  UWO went quietly in the seventh inning as Thomas struck out the side.  UST out-hits the Titans 6-3 for the game.

I'm guessing Game #2 will see Gapinski vs Westphal...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 13, 2012, 04:35:23 PM
St. Thomas completes the sweep knocking off UWO 7-1 in the nightcap.  Reigning Midwest Region Pitcher of the Year Luke Westphal gives up six runs (four earned) on 11 hits and 3 walks while striking out seven in six innings of work.  Freshman Michael Swift came on in relief and allowed a lead-off double which scored after a pair of ground-outs for the final UST run.

Bryce Gapinski followed Maher's gem in the first game with one of his own, giving up just one run on four hits while striking out 10 and walking none in the CG victory.  He faced just four batters over the minimum.

Oshkosh will return to action next week, as they play another pair of doubleheaders against St. John's and Northwestern at the Metrodome on Sunday and Monday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 13, 2012, 08:16:18 PM
St. Thomas is looking like the team to beat in the Midwest.  They appear to have the best 1-2 punch for pitching.  Polcyn is off to a great start.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 13, 2012, 10:13:10 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 13, 2012, 08:16:18 PM
St. Thomas is looking like the team to beat in the Midwest.  They appear to have the best 1-2 punch for pitching.  Polcyn is off to a great start.

At the plate, yes...not so much defensively....stand by my statement that Polcyn wouldn't start in the field for Point.  Jirschele and Douglas are about as good as it gets in D3 up the middle.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 13, 2012, 10:18:52 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 13, 2012, 10:13:10 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 13, 2012, 08:16:18 PM
St. Thomas is looking like the team to beat in the Midwest.  They appear to have the best 1-2 punch for pitching.  Polcyn is off to a great start.

At the plate, yes...not so much defensively....stand by my statement that Polcyn wouldn't start in the field for Point.  Jirschele and Douglas are about as good as it gets in D3 up the middle.

I now see that he's been starting at 3B for the Titans, which changes things some for sure.  Gerber is fantastic defensively as well so I'm not sure they would move him to first for Polcyn, but maybe Polcyn could take Hanke's spot at 1B.  The two games I saw of Hanke was less than impressive.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 13, 2012, 10:37:38 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 13, 2012, 10:13:10 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 13, 2012, 08:16:18 PM
St. Thomas is looking like the team to beat in the Midwest.  They appear to have the best 1-2 punch for pitching.  Polcyn is off to a great start.
At the plate, yes...not so much defensively....stand by my statement that Polcyn wouldn't start in the field for Point.  Jirschele and Douglas are about as good as it gets in D3 up the middle.
The kid has 2 errors in 14 chances in his first four games playing third base for the first time in his career at the collegiate level.  You make it sound like he is a butcher!!   

I'll give you that Jirschele is solid with the glove as evidenced by his Midwest Region Gold Glove award last season and National Gold Glove award in 2010.  As far as Douglas however, I think he needs to prove he is as solid as you say.  He played the OF last season, unable to beat out the incumbent SS who racked up E's like he was buying vowels on on Wheel of Fortune the previous two seasons (24 and 17 respectively.)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 13, 2012, 10:45:01 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 13, 2012, 10:18:52 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 13, 2012, 10:13:10 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 13, 2012, 08:16:18 PM
St. Thomas is looking like the team to beat in the Midwest.  They appear to have the best 1-2 punch for pitching.  Polcyn is off to a great start.
At the plate, yes...not so much defensively....stand by my statement that Polcyn wouldn't start in the field for Point.  Jirschele and Douglas are about as good as it gets in D3 up the middle.
I now see that he's been starting at 3B for the Titans, which changes things some for sure.  Gerber is fantastic defensively as well so I'm not sure they would move him to first for Polcyn, but maybe Polcyn could take Hanke's spot at 1B.  The two games I saw of Hanke was less than impressive.
Being "fantastic" at first base is one thing, but I need to see Gerber play more than two games at third base before I agree with him being a fantastic third baseman.  The guy has had a grand total of four chances thus far in the 2012 season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 14, 2012, 07:44:23 AM
My biggest concern with Douglas is his arm strength.  I don't think it's anywhere near Fritz or Bushong's over the years.  The kid can field and track down anything but I just said I feel he's better suited at CF or 2B.  I agree with Cubs about Gerber.  He can rake no doubt but I think he needs to be at first.  I'm not as confident about Point as a lot of people in the country are at this point especially the #5 ranking.  I think at this point their top 25 but not sure about #5.  Not sure they have the elite #1 and #2 pitcher to be a top 5.  I think they have some obvious holes that I'm not sure are going to be filled this year.  They have a ton of great young kids though hopefully the pitching will be better than what I think.  We'll see how they stack up against St. Thomas.  We know they'll face Edwards.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 14, 2012, 08:18:08 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 14, 2012, 07:44:23 AM
My biggest concern with Douglas is his arm strength.  I don't think it's anywhere near Fritz or Bushong's over the years.  The kid can field and track down anything but I just said I feel he's better suited at CF or 2B.  I agree with Cubs about Gerber.  He can rake no doubt but I think he needs to be at first.  I'm not as confident about Point as a lot of people in the country are at this point especially the #5 ranking.  I think at this point their top 25 but not sure about #5.  Not sure they have the elite #1 and #2 pitcher to be a top 5.  I think they have some obvious holes that I'm not sure are going to be filled this year.  They have a ton of great young kids though hopefully the pitching will be better than what I think.  We'll see how they stack up against St. Thomas.  We know they'll face Edwards.
Edwards was a senior last season....  If they face UST's ace, it will be either Steve Maher (3-0 with a 0.98 ERA in three starts) or Bryce Gapinski (2-0 with a 1.29 ERA in two starts) the same two guys that UWO faced yesterday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 14, 2012, 08:33:16 AM
Third Base is an offensive position. You are willing to trade defensive mistakes for the offense production.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 14, 2012, 08:48:49 AM
Quote from: cubs on March 13, 2012, 10:45:01 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 13, 2012, 10:18:52 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 13, 2012, 10:13:10 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 13, 2012, 08:16:18 PM
St. Thomas is looking like the team to beat in the Midwest.  They appear to have the best 1-2 punch for pitching.  Polcyn is off to a great start.
At the plate, yes...not so much defensively....stand by my statement that Polcyn wouldn't start in the field for Point.  Jirschele and Douglas are about as good as it gets in D3 up the middle.
I now see that he's been starting at 3B for the Titans, which changes things some for sure.  Gerber is fantastic defensively as well so I'm not sure they would move him to first for Polcyn, but maybe Polcyn could take Hanke's spot at 1B.  The two games I saw of Hanke was less than impressive.
Being "fantastic" at first base is one thing, but I need to see Gerber play more than two games at third base before I agree with him being a fantastic third baseman.  The guy has had a grand total of four chances thus far in the 2012 season.

This whole argument started over Shinetime's absurd statement about Polcyn being Position Player of the Year.  I think it's safe to say to be Position Player of the Year you have to be the best at your position in the league. How could you be Player of the Year and not be??  With a preseason All American at Polcyn's position, it's hard to make that argument that he's the best 3B.  In fact, I think Kamps and Van Abel have much better chances at Position Player of the Year than does Polcyn.  So, to back my opinion of Polcyn having a very slim chance at this distinction I wanted to point out that I don't think he would play the field for Point and DH's don't win a Player of the Year.  I'm sure this comes off as I'm knocking Polcyn's ability, I'm not trying to and I have no doubts this kid is going to be a guy the rest of the WIAC doesn't want to face.  I just value experience and believe upperclassmen definitely have a huge leg up on postseason awards.

My bringing up Gerber, Jirschele and Douglas' defensive skills stems from me watching their opening doubleheader in the Metrodome.  I watched this trio have large parts in turning 6 or 7 double plays, in which a few of them were plays not many in D3 would make in my opinion.  I was with a friend and we talked more about how sound Point's infield defense was then Shilter's 4x4 game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 14, 2012, 09:44:53 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 14, 2012, 08:48:49 AM
Quote from: cubs on March 13, 2012, 10:45:01 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 13, 2012, 10:18:52 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 13, 2012, 10:13:10 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 13, 2012, 08:16:18 PM
St. Thomas is looking like the team to beat in the Midwest.  They appear to have the best 1-2 punch for pitching.  Polcyn is off to a great start.
At the plate, yes...not so much defensively....stand by my statement that Polcyn wouldn't start in the field for Point.  Jirschele and Douglas are about as good as it gets in D3 up the middle.
I now see that he's been starting at 3B for the Titans, which changes things some for sure.  Gerber is fantastic defensively as well so I'm not sure they would move him to first for Polcyn, but maybe Polcyn could take Hanke's spot at 1B.  The two games I saw of Hanke was less than impressive.
Being "fantastic" at first base is one thing, but I need to see Gerber play more than two games at third base before I agree with him being a fantastic third baseman.  The guy has had a grand total of four chances thus far in the 2012 season.
This whole argument started over Shinetime's absurd statement about Polcyn being Position Player of the Year.  I think it's safe to say to be Position Player of the Year you have to be the best at your position in the league. How could you be Player of the Year and not be??  With a preseason All American at Polcyn's position, it's hard to make that argument that he's the best 3B.  In fact, I think Kamps and Van Abel have much better chances at Position Player of the Year than does Polcyn.  So, to back my opinion of Polcyn having a very slim chance at this distinction I wanted to point out that I don't think he would play the field for Point and DH's don't win a Player of the Year.  I'm sure this comes off as I'm knocking Polcyn's ability, I'm not trying to and I have no doubts this kid is going to be a guy the rest of the WIAC doesn't want to face.  I just value experience and believe upperclassmen definitely have a huge leg up on postseason awards.

My bringing up Gerber, Jirschele and Douglas' defensive skills stems from me watching their opening doubleheader in the Metrodome.  I watched this trio have large parts in turning 6 or 7 double plays, in which a few of them were plays not many in D3 would make in my opinion.  I was with a friend and we talked more about how sound Point's infield defense was then Shilter's 4x4 game.
Few things....

1.  Without going back and looking at the previous winners, I can think of at least one guy off of the top of my head that won the Position Player of the Year award that wasn't the best player at his position.  Vince Mancuso...  He just put up such good offensive numbers that what he did in the field didn't even matter.

2.  Gerber's Preseason All American award was as a first baseman, not a third baseman.  BIG difference!!!

3.  They had four double plays in their opening DH at the Metrodome.

Anyway, my money is on Jirschele to win the Position Player of the Year this season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 14, 2012, 10:01:12 AM
Is it me or does anyone else think it would be fun to see All-Conference teams battle head to head with other conferences in a post-season tourney? I know it is not feasible, but I think the WIAC would be pretty solid... maybe at the top?! I can see the SCIAC and ASC producing quality teams 1-9 and on the mound as well, but what other conferences would compete? Maybe the MIAC simply based on the arms that St. Thomas pumps out year after year.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 14, 2012, 10:12:32 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 14, 2012, 10:01:12 AM
Is it me or does anyone else think it would be fun to see All-Conference teams battle head to head with other conferences in a post-season tourney? I know it is not feasible, but I think the WIAC would be pretty solid... maybe at the top?! I can see the SCIAC and ASC producing quality teams 1-9 and on the mound as well, but what other conferences would compete? Maybe the MIAC simply based on the arms that St. Thomas pumps out year after year.
I think most conferences would run a great team out there. The LEC, OAC, CCIW, USAS, NJAC and many more.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 14, 2012, 10:26:10 AM
Quote from: cubs on March 14, 2012, 09:44:53 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 14, 2012, 08:48:49 AM
Quote from: cubs on March 13, 2012, 10:45:01 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 13, 2012, 10:18:52 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 13, 2012, 10:13:10 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 13, 2012, 08:16:18 PM
St. Thomas is looking like the team to beat in the Midwest.  They appear to have the best 1-2 punch for pitching.  Polcyn is off to a great start.
At the plate, yes...not so much defensively....stand by my statement that Polcyn wouldn't start in the field for Point.  Jirschele and Douglas are about as good as it gets in D3 up the middle.
I now see that he's been starting at 3B for the Titans, which changes things some for sure.  Gerber is fantastic defensively as well so I'm not sure they would move him to first for Polcyn, but maybe Polcyn could take Hanke's spot at 1B.  The two games I saw of Hanke was less than impressive.
Being "fantastic" at first base is one thing, but I need to see Gerber play more than two games at third base before I agree with him being a fantastic third baseman.  The guy has had a grand total of four chances thus far in the 2012 season.
This whole argument started over Shinetime's absurd statement about Polcyn being Position Player of the Year.  I think it's safe to say to be Position Player of the Year you have to be the best at your position in the league. How could you be Player of the Year and not be??  With a preseason All American at Polcyn's position, it's hard to make that argument that he's the best 3B.  In fact, I think Kamps and Van Abel have much better chances at Position Player of the Year than does Polcyn.  So, to back my opinion of Polcyn having a very slim chance at this distinction I wanted to point out that I don't think he would play the field for Point and DH's don't win a Player of the Year.  I'm sure this comes off as I'm knocking Polcyn's ability, I'm not trying to and I have no doubts this kid is going to be a guy the rest of the WIAC doesn't want to face.  I just value experience and believe upperclassmen definitely have a huge leg up on postseason awards.

My bringing up Gerber, Jirschele and Douglas' defensive skills stems from me watching their opening doubleheader in the Metrodome.  I watched this trio have large parts in turning 6 or 7 double plays, in which a few of them were plays not many in D3 would make in my opinion.  I was with a friend and we talked more about how sound Point's infield defense was then Shilter's 4x4 game.
Few things....

1.  Without going back and looking at the previous winners, I can think of at least one guy off of the top of my head that won the Position Player of the Year award that wasn't the best player at his position.  Vince Mancuso...  He just put up such good offensive numbers that what he did in the field didn't even matter.

2.  Gerber's Preseason All American award was as a first baseman, not a third baseman.  BIG difference!!!

3.  They had four double plays in their opening DH at the Metrodome.

Anyway, my money is on Jirschele to win the Position Player of the Year this season.

Admittedly, I haven't followed WIAC baseball very long to talk about many previous Position Players of the Year...but to clarify that when I said best player at his position in the league, I meant when you combine both offense and defense.  My guess is that when you combine both categories, every Position Player of the Year would be considered the best at his position. 

I must have exaggerated the double plays as I didn't look back on the box score, I just went off of memory.  Point did get hosed on one double play though, there should have then had 5.  Jirschele made the best play of the day making a stab to his right on a hard hit ball and getting the lead runner out at 2nd base, Douglas made the throw to first to turn the double play and got the guy by a step...the ump called him safe though, pretty horrendous call and I wouldn't care much if it didn't take a little muster out of the great play Jirschele made.

I agree that being a Preseason All American at 1B is different then 3B, but does it really matter in this argument??  Either way, to be the best at his position in the WIAC, a freshman Polcyn has to contend with a returning All Conference performer who hit .400 last season and is getting preseason national notoriety.  Is it just me that thinks it's a little early to be throwing out Polcyn as the best position player in a very competitive league??
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 14, 2012, 10:44:31 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 14, 2012, 10:26:10 AM
I agree that being a Preseason All American at 1B is different then 3B, but does it really matter in this argument??  Either way, to be the best at his position in the WIAC, a freshman Polcyn has to contend with a returning All Conference performer who hit .400 last season and is getting preseason national notoriety.  Is it just me that thinks it's a little early to be throwing out Polcyn as the best position player in a very competitive league??
Look back at my original reply to Shinetime....  I said I would take that bet EVERY day of the week.

Point fans better hope Gerber doesn't repeat what Fritz did last season, going from the Position Player of the Year as a Junior, to not even making 1st Team All Conference as a senior.  Some guys handle the higher expectations and pressure better than others.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D3guy99 on March 14, 2012, 12:38:21 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 14, 2012, 08:33:16 AM
Third Base is an offensive position. You are willing to trade defensive mistakes for the offense production.

Yeah with the old bats. Now you have to solid defensively all around.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D3guy99 on March 14, 2012, 12:41:22 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 14, 2012, 10:01:12 AM
Is it me or does anyone else think it would be fun to see All-Conference teams battle head to head with other conferences in a post-season tourney? I know it is not feasible, but I think the WIAC would be pretty solid... maybe at the top?! I can see the SCIAC and ASC producing quality teams 1-9 and on the mound as well, but what other conferences would compete? Maybe the MIAC simply based on the arms that St. Thomas pumps out year after year.

The MIAC would certainly be near the top of that. St. Thomas has some great arms but there is a ton of talent spread throughout the conference.  So far this year the WIAC hasn't really fared well against the MIAC; don't sleep on the MIAC.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 14, 2012, 01:02:54 PM
The two leagues are 9-9 to date.  Superior, Point and WHITEWATER have two wins apiece while Stout, LaCrosse and Oshkosh have a single win.  On the MIAC side St Thomas has four wins, Malcaster and Hamiline two each and Bethel has one. 

Regardless, I wouldn't sleep on the MIAC either. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 14, 2012, 01:09:35 PM
Sorry if I came across wrong... I was not saying that the MIAC was not good, I was simply saying that the WIAC is loaded this year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 14, 2012, 06:20:28 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 14, 2012, 10:44:31 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 14, 2012, 10:26:10 AM
I agree that being a Preseason All American at 1B is different then 3B, but does it really matter in this argument??  Either way, to be the best at his position in the WIAC, a freshman Polcyn has to contend with a returning All Conference performer who hit .400 last season and is getting preseason national notoriety.  Is it just me that thinks it's a little early to be throwing out Polcyn as the best position player in a very competitive league??
Look back at my original reply to Shinetime....  I said I would take that bet EVERY day of the week.

Point fans better hope Gerber doesn't repeat what Fritz did last season, going from the Position Player of the Year as a Junior, to not even making 1st Team All Conference as a senior.  Some guys handle the higher expectations and pressure better than others.

I agree completely.  Most seem to think Point's bats are going to have to carry them this year, I'm kind of on the fence with that theory but I still think Gerber needs a big year.  I didn't get to see Wendorf or Stroik, who should be the top starters for Point, but I was impressed with Frederick, Seidl and of course Iverson.  So, I think Point's pitching will be better than expected.  If the lineup plays up to expectations, which is a big if, Point should be in a good position to make some noise this year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 17, 2012, 06:29:10 PM
Point's offense shows up in a big way in their opener in Florida against Benedictine.  Win 14-4, I don't have any other details.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 18, 2012, 09:21:46 AM
Gerber and Barnes carried the offense and Brad Stroik pitched and gave up 4 runs all earned.  Live stats for the big DH today vs St. Thomas.  Maher vs Frederic game 1.  Guessing Wendorf will go game 2 vs Gapinski.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 19, 2012, 12:37:19 AM
After having an error in Game #1 in his only chance, Gerber moves back to first base for Game #2....

Point splits with St. Thomas, losing the opener 3-0 as Max Frederick is the tough luck loser.  They score four runs with two outs in the 7th inning of the nightcap for a 4-1 victory. 

UST pitchers Maher and Gapinski absolutely dominate Oshkosh and Point hitters this week.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 19, 2012, 12:38:37 AM
Oshkosh knocks off St. John's in Game #1 tonight 5-2.  Brock Guetzke with the win going five innings and helping his own cause with a 4x4 night at the plate.

St. John's rallies late, scoring a single run in the fifth inning to tie the game, a pair of runs in the sixth inning to take the lead, and an insurance run in the seventh inning to knock off UWO 4-2 in the nightcap.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on March 19, 2012, 02:43:57 AM
Quote from: cubs on March 19, 2012, 12:37:19 AM
After having an error in Game #1 in his only chance, Gerber moves back to first base for Game #2....

Point splits with St. Thomas, losing the opener 3-0 as Max Frederick is the tough luck loser.  They score four runs with two outs in the 7th inning of the nightcap for a 4-1 victory. 

UST pitchers Maher and Gapinski absolutely dominate Oshkosh and Point hitters this week.....

Maher also handcuffed Whitewater 3-0 on 2 hits last week.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 19, 2012, 08:50:03 AM
Quote from: cubs on March 19, 2012, 12:37:19 AM
After having an error in Game #1 in his only chance, Gerber moves back to first base for Game #2....

Point splits with St. Thomas, losing the opener 3-0 as Max Frederick is the tough luck loser.  They score four runs with two outs in the 7th inning of the nightcap for a 4-1 victory. 

UST pitchers Maher and Gapinski absolutely dominate Oshkosh and Point hitters this week.....

Gerber moving to first has everything to do with how Hanke has been struggling at the plate.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 19, 2012, 11:28:21 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 19, 2012, 08:50:03 AM
Quote from: cubs on March 19, 2012, 12:37:19 AM
After having an error in Game #1 in his only chance, Gerber moves back to first base for Game #2....

Point splits with St. Thomas, losing the opener 3-0 as Max Frederick is the tough luck loser.  They score four runs with two outs in the 7th inning of the nightcap for a 4-1 victory. 

UST pitchers Maher and Gapinski absolutely dominate Oshkosh and Point hitters this week.....

Gerber moving to first has everything to do with how Hanke has been struggling at the plate.
And exactly where he would be playing if Polcyn was on the Pointer roster....  I don't agree with Shinetime's POY comment, but at the same time to say that Polcyn wouldn't be starting in the infield for Point is a bit over the top was well. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: thrunt01 on March 19, 2012, 06:08:04 PM
Just FYI, although it's not listed on the WIAC website, the folks over at WRST will have a radio broadcast of UWO's double header tonight at 9:45pm. It can be heard online at wrst.org
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 20, 2012, 09:41:05 AM
Quote from: cubs on March 19, 2012, 11:28:21 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 19, 2012, 08:50:03 AM
Quote from: cubs on March 19, 2012, 12:37:19 AM
After having an error in Game #1 in his only chance, Gerber moves back to first base for Game #2....

Point splits with St. Thomas, losing the opener 3-0 as Max Frederick is the tough luck loser.  They score four runs with two outs in the 7th inning of the nightcap for a 4-1 victory. 

UST pitchers Maher and Gapinski absolutely dominate Oshkosh and Point hitters this week.....

Gerber moving to first has everything to do with how Hanke has been struggling at the plate.
And exactly where he would be playing if Polcyn was on the Pointer roster....  I don't agree with Shinetime's POY comment, but at the same time to say that Polcyn wouldn't be starting in the infield for Point is a bit over the top was well.

I made that comment thinking Polcyn was playing SS or 2B.  Polcyn wouldn't beat out Douglas or Jirschele.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 20, 2012, 11:27:00 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 20, 2012, 09:41:05 AM
Quote from: cubs on March 19, 2012, 11:28:21 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 19, 2012, 08:50:03 AM
Quote from: cubs on March 19, 2012, 12:37:19 AM
After having an error in Game #1 in his only chance, Gerber moves back to first base for Game #2....

Point splits with St. Thomas, losing the opener 3-0 as Max Frederick is the tough luck loser.  They score four runs with two outs in the 7th inning of the nightcap for a 4-1 victory. 

UST pitchers Maher and Gapinski absolutely dominate Oshkosh and Point hitters this week.....

Gerber moving to first has everything to do with how Hanke has been struggling at the plate.
And exactly where he would be playing if Polcyn was on the Pointer roster....  I don't agree with Shinetime's POY comment, but at the same time to say that Polcyn wouldn't be starting in the infield for Point is a bit over the top was well.
I made that comment thinking Polcyn was playing SS or 2B.  Polcyn wouldn't beat out Douglas or Jirschele.
You also said they wouldn't move Gerber back to first to play Polcyn at third base....  I disagree...

With another error yesterday in his only chance at third base, Gerber now has an .800 fielding percentage with two errors in 10 chances for the year at third base.  Compare that to Polcyn's two errors in 28 chances.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 21, 2012, 11:11:26 PM
Superior with a 10-2 victory over traditionally strong Carthage earlier today.  Superior's Ethan Branum with CG victory.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 22, 2012, 07:46:02 PM
Point splits with 3-10 St. Olaf today by identical 3-2 scores.  Frederick the tough luck loser in Game #1 and Iverson with the win in relief of Seidl in Game #2.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on March 23, 2012, 02:28:56 AM
UWW wins the first game of it's Florida swing, 14-2 over Clarkson.  The Warhawks scored 9 in the bottom of the first on 4 hits, 3 walks, 2 HBP and 1 Clarkson error. The hawks added 1 run in the second and 3 in the third, thanks to a Steve Bartlein home run. The upstate New Yorkers scored their 2 runs in the 6th on 3 hits, 1 walk and a wild pitch with a Warhawk error mixed in for good measure.  UWW scored one final time in the 7th and the game ended due to the run differential rule.

Kyle Stewart (2-0) went 6 innings (2 ER, 4 hits, 2 walks, with 7 SO's) to earn the win. Bartlein was 2x3 and a walk at the plate with 4 RBI's to lead UWW. The Golden Knights finished their Florida schedule at 6-3; the Warhawks are now 3-2

Warhawks were to play Western New England later on thursday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on March 23, 2012, 10:57:26 AM
. . . UWW beats Western New England (http://www.wnegoldenbears.com/schedule.aspx?path=baseball) 11-10 to go 2-0 on the first day of their Florida trip . . . no details as of yet.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: schmolph on March 24, 2012, 06:57:11 AM
CSS sweeps UW Lax 5-4 ,5-3.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 24, 2012, 09:27:58 AM
Can't complain too much with Point being 7-3 but one will have to wonder if their just going to pound the bad pitchers and lose to quality pitchers. What's going on with Wendorf?  I had him penciled in as the ace of the staff but it appears he's having some control issues.  Point desparately needs him to be the Wendorf of last year to have a shot at winning the WIAC.  All in all the team looks pretty solid but not spectacular.  I for one am shocked with the way Stroik and Frederick have looked so far.  That can only help their chances this year.  I'm kind of surprised that La Crosse is only 500.  Thought they would really be good this year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 24, 2012, 11:10:46 AM
Quote from: BoBo on March 23, 2012, 10:57:26 AM
. . . UWW beats Western New England (http://www.wnegoldenbears.com/schedule.aspx?path=baseball) 11-10 to go 2-0 on the first day of their Florida trip . . . no details as of yet.


Matt Beyer solo home run in the top of the ninth.  Eric Schmitz (2-1) gets the win in relief.

Ugly loss yesterday 7-3 to Benedictine.  Jack Larson (0-2) takes the loss.  Jared Fon (2x4) and Kyle Stewart (2-4, 2 RBI) have multiple hits.  WARHAWK defense plays poorly (6 errors).   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIACLUV on March 24, 2012, 11:13:51 AM
Don't sleep on LAX quite yet. Having seen the Point, WW, Osh & LAX all play in the Metrodome, LAX is the best offensive unit of that group.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 25, 2012, 05:13:52 PM
The WARHAWKS split a double hitter with Chicago on Saturday winning game one 8-5 and losing game two 6-0.  Tom Kerndt picked up his second win of the season with a complete game in the opener.  Kerndt allowed 10 hits, 5 runs (4 earned) while striking out 6 and walking a pair.  JT Schneider, Sam Keller and Matt Beyer all went 3x4 at the plate and each had a pair of RBI.  Jared Fon and Mike Mierow each had a pair of hits with Fon getting an RBI and Mierow scoring 3 runs. 

Matthew Roberts took the loss in game two giving up 6 hits, 6 runs (4 earned) walking a pair and striking out 4 in 3.2 innings of work.  Eric Schmitz relieved and pitched 2.1 scoreless innings giving up a single hit and striking out a pair.  As a team the WARHAWKS were held to three hits with Beyer getting a pair and Dominick Cannon getting the other one. 

The WARHAWKS (5-4) are off until Tuesday when they'll play a twin bill against Southern Maine. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 27, 2012, 04:53:40 PM
The WARHAWKS improved to 6-4 by defeating Southern Maine 5-0 today.  The box isn't available yet so I don't know the details.  I do know that Kyle Stewart got the start and was pitching as late as the eighth inning.  Details to follow when made available.

Stewart (2-0) went the distance giving up four hits, one walk and striking out 7.  The WARHAWKS scored one run in the fourth on a sac fly by Mike Mierow, two runs in the seventh with one unearned and a sac fly by Matt Beyer and two runs in the eighth on singles by Jared Fon and Fred Gromalak.  Fon led the 15 hit WARHAWK offense going 4x5.  JT Schneider went 3x5, Mierow 3x3 (dbl) and Marty Herum 2x4 to round out WARHAWKS  with multiple hits. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 28, 2012, 03:32:32 PM
The WARHAWKS defeated Southern Maine 16-5 today.  After scoring one run in their first at bat the WARHAWKS scored three runs in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th and 8th innings on 19 hits. 

Matthew Roberts (1-1) got the start and pitched four innings giving up 2 runs, both earned, on four hits and striking out two.  Aaron Lietner relieved him pitching 2 innings surrendering 1 run (earned) on 3 hits with a strikeout.  Tom Kerndt (1 inn, 2 runs both unearned, 2 hits, 1 bb, 1 k) and Eric Schmitz (2 inn, 0 runs, 0 hits, 2 ks) finished the game.  Eleven WARHAWKS recorded hits.  Marty Herum paved the way going 5x5 with a double, triple and scoring 3 runs.  Samuel Keller went 4x5 with an rbi and run scored.  Dylan Friend (2x2, dbl, 2 rbi, 2 rs) and Andrew Bauer (2x5, dbl, 2 rbi, 2 rs) rounded out those with multiple hits.  Tim Conroy had a two run home run.  JT Schneider (1), David Cladis (2), Steve Bartlein (1), Mike Mierow (1) and Fred Gromalack (1) also had RBIs. 

This concludes the WARHAWKS Florida trip.  They return home and will play a double hitter in Ripon 3/31.     
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 28, 2012, 11:33:57 PM
Quote from: cubs on November 12, 2011, 01:02:22 PM
Kind of stealing this idea off the basketball board, but with it being the middle of the off-season, maybe it will draw up some interest.  The WIAC is putting together an All Time team for each of the different sports it sponsors in recognition of their 100 year anniversary. 

Any thoughts on what the baseball team would look like?

Here are some guys that I feel would be deserving:

P-Jarrod Washburn-Oshkosh
P-Jordan Zimmerman-Stevens Point
P-Brady Endl-Whitewater

P-Bill Verbrick-Stevens Point
P-Ryan Callahan-Whitewater
P-Andy Kimball-Oshkosh

C-Casey Kopitzke-Oshkosh
1B-Jeff Donovan-Whitewater
1B-Craig Lieder-Oshkosh
2B-Jeremy Jirschele-Oshkosh
SS-Tim Jorgensen-Oshkosh
SS-Vinnie Rottino-La Crosse
3B-Terry Jorgensen-Oshkosh
3B-Aaron Richartz-Oshkosh
OF-Chris Delarwelle-Oshkosh

OF-Jeff Zappa-Oshkosh
OF-Nolan Fadness-Oshkosh
OF-Scott Mann-Oshkosh
OF-Pat Tobiasz-Whitewater
UT-Vince Mancuso-Oshkosh
UT-Seth Maier-Stout


Not sure how many of these guys will actually make it, but I thought it was a start.  Obviously I am missing a few guys, so who are they?
The bolded guys are guys actually names to the list that was released today.

Btw-BigPoppa, nice call on Wickman and Gantner, as they also made the list.  Unfortunately Hinske was omitted.

http://www.wiacsports.com/news/2012/3/28/BB_0328123130.aspx

There are ALWAYS going to be arguments as to players being "snubbed" but two I feel truly deserved to be on the list were Nolan Fadness and Scott Mann from UWO.  They were both named to the All Conference team all four years of their career, just like Jordan Stine.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 29, 2012, 02:42:49 PM
Where's Koback?  Point only has one player on the list how about Wiczek he was player of the year in the nation?  How about that lefty from Whitewater on world series team?  Toma something he was lights out.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 29, 2012, 03:18:39 PM
Kevin Tomasiewicz was 35-5 for his career and 4 of the losses came in one season.

Oshkosh does have 16 of the 27 which is well represented and isn't surprising considering the way they dominated the conference for as long as they did.

However the Stine/Fadness comparison favors Stine.  Stine's career BA was .381 (229 hits), Fadness was .335 (200 hits).  Stine had  .400 and .397 seasons.  Fadness best two were .352 and .333.  Stine has 145 RBI, Fadness 99.  Stine had 305 total bases in his career, Fadness 279.  Stine's best SL% was .636, Fadness's best was .610 and Stine's worst season (.466) was better than any of Fadness's other three (.438, .400, .425).  While they played different positions making it harder to compare fielding numbers Stine's error rate was 1 every 58.33 chances (350/6) and Fadness's was 1 every 17.06 chances (546/32).   While both were 4 time all conference selections Stine clearly had the better career numbers.

I'm not saying Fadness shouldn't have been on the team and if he had been selected I'd have no problem with it.  I'm just suggesting that he shouldn't have been selected at the expense of Stine.   I wasn't able to locate any career stats for Mann.

As you indicated you can make an argument for many others.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 31, 2012, 03:32:39 PM
La Crosse jumps on Platteville early scoring seven runs in the second inning and bangs out 17 hits on their way to an 11-1 8-inning victory over Platteville.

Superior scores unearned runs in the fourth and ninth innings to defeat reigning WIAC Pitcher of the Year Luke Westphal 2-1.  Westphal strikes out 11 while giving up four hits and walking two in the complete game loss.  Superior's Mike Swanson is able to overcome four walks and four hit batters to pick up the victory.

Stevens Point leads Stout 9-6 in the Top of the 8th inning.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 01, 2012, 10:46:57 AM
The WARHAWKS took both ends of a twin bill from Ripon yesterday 16-3 and 7-6.  Kyle Stewart (4-0) got the win in the first game surrendering 3 hits and 3 runs (earned) with a pair of strikeouts and 3 walks in 5 innings.  Quintin Zander pitched a pair of shutout innings to wrap up the mercy rule shortened game.  The WARHAWK offense pounded out 16 hits.  Dylan Friend (3x5, double) and Sam Keller (3x4) led the way.  Jared Fon (2x3), Marty Herum (2x5), Andrew Bauer (2x4) and Matt Beyer (2x5) had multiple hits.  Keller (1), Fon (1), Herum (2), Beyer (3), Friend (4), Mierow (1), Gromalak (1) and Bauer (1) all had RBI.  Friend had 4 runs scored and Herum had 3.

In game two the WARHAWKS took an early lead with a pair of runs in the first inning but Ripon cut their deficit in half with a run in the bottom of the second.  WHITEWATER got that run and another back with a pair in the third but Ripon once again cut their deficit in half with a run in their half of the inning.  Leading 4-2 the WARHAWKS scored two in the fifth and one in the sixth to go up 7-2.  Ripon resonded with a run in the bottom of the sixth, two in the seventh and one in the eighth as the tying run was thrown out at the plate and two runners were stranded.   Aaron Lietner (1-0) picked up his first win of the season going 5 innings yielding 2 runs (earned) on 3 hits while walking a pair and striking out five.  Eric Schmitz relieved him going 2 innings giving up 3 runs (1 earned) with two strikeouts.  Matthew Roberts gave up three hits, one run (earned) with a walk and two strikeouts in the final two innings to pick up a save.  Fon continued hitting getting a triple and a home run while going 3x5 with 4 RBI and scoring 3 times.  Herum also had 3 hits (double) in 5 at bats and drove in a pair of runs.  Beyer also had a pair of hits (2x5) while Friend added an RBI. 

The WARHAWKS open the home portion of the season with double hitter vs Oshkosh April 5th.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 01, 2012, 11:12:47 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 01, 2012, 10:46:57 AM
The WARHAWKS took both ends of a twin bill from Ripon yesterday 16-3 and 7-6.  Kyle Stewart (4-0) got the win in the first game surrendering 3 hits and 3 runs (earned) with a pair of strikeouts and 3 walks in 5 innings.  Quintin Zander pitched a pair of shutout innings to wrap up the mercy rule shortened game.  The WARHAWK offense pounded out 16 hits.  Dylan Friend (3x5, double) and Sam Keller (3x4) led the way.  Jared Fon (2x3), Marty Herum (2x5), Andrew Bauer (2x4) and Matt Beyer (2x5) had multiple hits.  Keller (1), Fon (1), Herum (2), Beyer (3), Friend (4), Mierow (1), Gromalak (1) and Bauer (1) all had RBI.  Friend had 4 runs scored and Herum had 3.

In game two the WARHAWKS took an early lead with a pair of runs in the first inning but Ripon cut their deficit in half with a run in the bottom of the second.  WHITEWATER got that run and another back with a pair in the third but Ripon once again cut their deficit in half with a run in their half of the inning.  Leading 4-2 the WARHAWKS scored two in the fifth and one in the sixth to go up 7-2.  Ripon resonded with a run in the bottom of the sixth, two in the seventh and one in the eighth as the tying run was thrown out at the plate and two runners were stranded.   Aaron Lietner (1-0) picked up his first win of the season going 5 innings yielding 2 runs (earned) on 3 hits while walking a pair and striking out five.  Eric Schmitz relieved him going 2 innings giving up 3 runs (1 earned) with two strikeouts.  Matthew Roberts gave up three hits, one run (earned) with a walk and two strikeouts in the final two innings to pick up a save.  Fon continued hitting getting a triple and a home run while going 3x5 with 4 RBI and scoring 3 times.  Herum also had 3 hits (double) in 5 at bats and drove in a pair of runs.  Beyer also had a pair of hits (2x5) while Friend added an RBI. 

The WARHAWKS open the home portion of the season with double hitter vs Oshkosh April 5th.
Fon actually had a triple and TWO home runs in the nightcap.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 01, 2012, 11:36:14 AM
Quote from: cubs on March 31, 2012, 03:32:39 PM
La Crosse jumps on Platteville early scoring seven runs in the second inning and bangs out 17 hits on their way to an 11-1 8-inning victory over Platteville.

Superior scores unearned runs in the fourth and ninth innings to defeat reigning WIAC Pitcher of the Year Luke Westphal 2-1.  Westphal strikes out 11 while giving up four hits and walking two in the complete game loss.  Superior's Mike Swanson is able to overcome four walks and four hit batters to pick up the victory.

Stevens Point leads Stout 9-6 in the Top of the 8th inning.
Point ended up winning Game #1 10-6 over Stout.  Douglas, Barnes, Jirschele, and Clark each had three hits as the Pointers banged out 17 hits in the contest.  Clark drove in four runs while Jirschele knocked in three.

Sout wins the nightcap 5-3.  Tyler Hamann scatters seven hits in six innings to pick up the victory as Stout gets three hitless innings from their bullpen.  Cam Seidl goes the ditance in a losing effort for the Pointers.

La Crosse completes the sweep over Platteville winning 3-0 in Game #2.  Garrett Scray picks up the CG shutout giving up six hits and two walks while striking out twelve. 

Oshkosh comes back from a 3-0 deficit in Game #2 to win 4-3 in 11 innings to earn a split with Superior.  UWO scores winning run on a passed ball with one out in the 11th inning.  For the day, Superior and Oshkosh pitchers combined to throw five wild pitches and also had a pair of passed balls.  Also of note, both teams combined for 19 hits in the DH, with 18 of them being singles.  Tom Fairbanks had the only extra-base hit, with a double for Superior.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 01, 2012, 03:55:33 PM
Oshkosh wins Game #1 over Superior today 7-6.  Freshman Michael Polcyn continues his solid play going 3x4 with a 2-run HR to lead the way for Oshkosh offensively.  Troy Mrkvicka throws four innings in relief for the victory giving up just a single unearned run in the ninth inning while striking out three.

La Crosse holds Platteville to just one hit, as Kevin Johnson takes a no-hitter into the seventh inning, to defeat the Pioneers 3-0.  Zach Lauersdorf came on in relief with runners on second and third with nobody out in the seventh inning and keeps Platteville from scoring.  He throws the final three innings to pick up the save.

After squandering a 5-2 lead in the seventh inning to the Blue Devils (Stout got a pair of RBI singles off of Point closer Ryan Iverson) the Pointers respond with nine runs in the top of the eighth inning to blow the game open and tack on another four runs in the ninth inning to "cruise" to an 18-5 victory over Stout.  The Pointers banged out 26 hits, with Jirschele and Coady leading the way with four hits apiece.  Ryan Schilter and Bryan Clark also chipped in with three hits apiece.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 01, 2012, 09:26:36 PM
Superior takes Game #2 at Oshkosh 6-3 to earn a split.  Catcher Jeff Miller was 3x5 with a pair of doubes to lead the way offensively as UWO starter Brock Guetzke was hit around pretty hard giving up seven hits and five earned runs in just three innings of work.

La Crosse completes the season sweep of Platteville knocking off the Pioneers 11-4 in Game #2 today.  Eagles starter Tim Larson was able to stay out of the big inning despite walking five batters and hitting two more in five innings of work to pick up the victory. 

Stevens Point completes the sweep today defeating Stout in Game #2 14-8 behind a big day from Justin Jirschele.  Jirschele who entered the weekend with just seven hits on the season, went 7x11 today to finish off a weekend which saw him go 11x22 in the four games against Stout.

WIAC Standings (Through April 1st)
La Crosse 4-0
Stevens Point 3-1
Oshkosh 2-2
Superior 2-2
Whitewater 0-0
Stout 1-3
Platteville 0-4
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 02, 2012, 11:58:02 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 01, 2012, 11:12:47 AM
Fon actually had a triple and TWO home runs in the nightcap.

Oops, thanks for catching that cubs.

BTW will you be coming down for either of the doublehitters this week? 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 02, 2012, 12:54:40 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 02, 2012, 11:58:02 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 01, 2012, 11:12:47 AM
Fon actually had a triple and TWO home runs in the nightcap.

Oops, thanks for catching that cubs.

BTW will you be coming down for either of the doublehitters this week?
Unfortunately no I will not be able to attend either doubleheader.  With it being Easter weekend, I will be doing the family thing.  I will probably look in maybe once or twice at the live stats though.   ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 03, 2012, 09:02:31 PM
Any predictions for LaCrosse and Point this week? I think Point is in big trouble their facing a tough pitching staff and bullpen and a potent offense. Points staff will have to have a tremendous 2 days to get at least a split in my opinion.  I think runs will be hard to come by against Scray and Verthein but I've been wrong many times before.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on April 04, 2012, 12:07:58 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 03, 2012, 09:02:31 PM
Any predictions for LaCrosse and Point this week? I think Point is in big trouble their facing a tough pitching staff and bullpen and a potent offense. Points staff will have to have a tremendous 2 days to get at least a split in my opinion.  I think runs will be hard to come by against Scray and Verthein but I've been wrong many times before.

CSS swept them beating Verthein (thanks to some LAX errors) and Scray who they hit pretty well... and CSS is just a lowly UMAC team, so  I see no reason why the Pointers wouldn't sweep them as well.  Point is one of the top teams in the region, are they not?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 04, 2012, 09:42:03 AM
Quote from: biggio34 on April 04, 2012, 12:07:58 AM
CSS swept them beating Verthein (thanks to some LAX errors) and Scray who they hit pretty well... and CSS is just a lowly UMAC team, so  I see no reason why the Pointers wouldn't sweep them as well.  Point is one of the top teams in the region, are they not?

Other than Point having to win four games rather than two to sweep them.

While I'm not overly impressed with the UMAC I do think CSS has a very good baseball program capable of competing with anyone including any of the top WIAC/MIAC programs.  I've been very impressed with them in the instances I've been able to see them play.   

Is that chip on your shoulder a burden to carry?  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on April 04, 2012, 10:16:44 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 04, 2012, 09:42:03 AM
Quote from: biggio34 on April 04, 2012, 12:07:58 AM
CSS swept them beating Verthein (thanks to some LAX errors) and Scray who they hit pretty well... and CSS is just a lowly UMAC team, so  I see no reason why the Pointers wouldn't sweep them as well.  Point is one of the top teams in the region, are they not?

Other than Point having to win four games rather than two to sweep them.

While I'm not overly impressed with the UMAC I do think CSS has a very good baseball program capable of competing with anyone including any of the top WIAC/MIAC programs.  I've been very impressed with them in the instances I've been able to see them play.   

Is that chip on your shoulder a burden to carry?  ;)

I should have looked at the schedule before opening my mouth.  I thought they were playing a Wednesday double header.  Obviously 4 nine inning games on a weekend is a completely different beast than 2 sevens.  I still predict Point taking 3 of 4 though.

As far as the chip... I actually do have one because I expected CSS to be a very good team this year.  I have not seen them play yet, but in following their scores and game highlights it appears that they are anything but.  They still have time to improve and I do think they have a shot to be there at the end based on their talent, but it has been a frustrating season so far from a fan's perspective.

And let's be honest, the UMAC is lowly, whether CSS is good or not.  :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: schmolph on April 04, 2012, 01:06:13 PM
The UMAC is pretty bad but CSS,after a slow start is starting to play better baseball.6 wins in a row now. They would fair very well  in the WIAC or MIAC and I am sure would love to not have to be in the UMAC..
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIACLUV on April 04, 2012, 05:33:54 PM
LAX is no slouch as indicated by their performance against the Tommies! Best offensive of the three WIAC teams (LAX, WW & SP) that the Tommies have faced all season. Don't sleep on CSS either quite yet. We opened with them and had it not been for a couple timely errors, the Tommies would have started 0-2.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 04, 2012, 11:07:12 PM
Quote from: MIACLUV on April 04, 2012, 05:33:54 PM
LAX is no slouch as indicated by their performance against the Tommies! Best offensive of the three WIAC teams (LAX, WW & SP) that the Tommies have faced all season. Don't sleep on CSS either quite yet. We opened with them and had it not been for a couple timely errors, the Tommies would have started 0-2.
Four WIAC Teams, as UST also swept Oshkosh...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: brewcrew2008 on April 05, 2012, 04:13:23 PM
Point with a bit of a statement win perhaps as they take game one 11-1 in 7 innings...Point pounds out 14 hits and Frederick goes the distance for the win
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 05, 2012, 08:04:24 PM
Anyone have the specifics on the Oshkosh-Whitewater ejection after what I heard was a questionable call? I always regret not being able to make UWO/UWW games. They're usually interesting.

EDIT: According to Jeff Potrykus's Twitter, UWW hit a fly to left that bounced on the track and over the wall. Ruled a home run.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 8404DOC on April 05, 2012, 10:14:10 PM
Lechnir gets tossed,
Long fly ball to left, clearly bounces on the track and goes over, runner even stops at second and Whitewater coach tells him to keep running and he scores. Everybody in the park except the umpires see the ball bounce and go over. Brief discussion between the umps but it's ruled an HR, Lechnir runs out and rips into home plate ump and gets tossed. Talked to a few WW players after the game and they even said they knew it bounced but karma ruled and UWO ended up winning. Sindles threw 5.1 stellar innings and if not for the terrible call probably would have kept going. Should be fun tomorrow!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 8404DOC on April 05, 2012, 10:24:41 PM
Oh ya and congrats to Mickey Fadness for his first coaching win! He took over after Lechnir got tossed.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 05, 2012, 10:26:13 PM
Quote from: 8404DOC on April 05, 2012, 10:24:41 PM
Oh ya and congrats to Mickey Fadness for his first coaching win! He took over after Lechnir got tossed.

Nope. The win still goes on Lechnir's record. Mickey will have to wait.  :D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 06, 2012, 08:45:52 AM
It was clearly a ground rule double.  I'm not positive but I think Lechnir may have made contact with the umpire in the course of their discussion.  The same umpire later prevented the winning run from scoring when he ruled a WHITEWATER batter stepped on the plate when he bunted in the bottom of the tenth. 

Though it doesn't matter if you check the play by play you'll see that the run would have scored in the inning had it been correctly ruled a ground rule double.   Regardless it was clearly a blown call. 

It was ironic that the winning run in the second game scored on a third out strikeout that got away from the catcher because both teams made several outstanding defensive plays in the course of the game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: brewcrew2008 on April 06, 2012, 04:03:10 PM
Point hands La Crosse game one...down 1 in the 8th La Crosse plates two runs on 3 Point errors. Point came back to tie it in the bottom of the 9th only to watch La Crosse score 2 runs in the 10th that was set up by an error with 2 outs and no one on, then a single with an error to allow the first run to score. Iverson takes the loss despite going 3.2 and only giving up 2 hits but 4 runs all unearned. Lauersdorf picked up the win in relief for La Crosse
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 8404DOC on April 06, 2012, 09:25:39 PM
Oshkosh takes game two at WW 8-6 to earn a series split.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 8404DOC on April 06, 2012, 09:28:32 PM
Fadness now 2-1 as Lechnir had to sit out both games at WW for bumping the ump after the blown HR call yesterday,  go Mick!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 06, 2012, 11:13:46 PM
Quote from: 8404DOC on April 06, 2012, 09:28:32 PM
Fadness now 2-1 as Lechnir had to sit out both games at WW for bumping the ump after the blown HR call yesterday,  go Mick!

Still nope. Wins by a substitute coach due to a suspension also go to the head coach. NCAA rules. I feel like such a killjoy.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2012, 10:07:47 AM
Lechnir was suspended for three games.  So he will also have to sit out the first game of their next double hitter.  IMO that penalty was excessive.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 07, 2012, 04:46:43 PM
WIAC Standings (Through April 6th)
La Crosse 6-2
Stevens Point 5-3
Oshkosh 4-4
Stout 4-4
Superior 2-2
Whitewater 2-2
Stout 1-3
Platteville 1-7

Hate to say it, but unless Whitewater or Point go on a run and then lose in the WIAC Tournament, the WIAC may be just a one-bid league this season.... La Crosse having seven in-region losses already seems like a lot.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on April 07, 2012, 08:52:00 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 07, 2012, 04:46:43 PM
WIAC Standings (Through April 6th)
La Crosse 6-2
Stevens Point 5-3
Oshkosh 4-4
Stout 4-4
Superior 2-2
Whitewater 2-2
Stout 1-3
Platteville 1-7

Hate to say it, but unless Whitewater or Point go on a run and then lose in the WIAC Tournament, the WIAC may be just a one-bid league this season.... La Crosse having seven in-region losses already seems like a lot.

It's been an odd year as many of the perennial regional teams have had their struggles, but I can't imagine a year where there is only one WIAC team playing in the national tournament.  If there is only one, it would be interesting to see who else would be at that regional.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 09, 2012, 10:03:35 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 09, 2012, 07:48:03 PM
What's going on with Point?  How do they lose with that lineup especially when the pitching has been solid?
Easy...  The line-up just hasnt been consistent.

Doesn't hurt that SNC doesn't start the conference portion of their schedule until Saturday, while Stevens Point is coming off a four game series with La Crosse and have a WIAC DH against Oshkosh Wednesday.  SNC is able to throw their top three guys while Point is starting their #5 and #6 pitchers?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 8404DOC on April 11, 2012, 05:12:30 PM
Oshkosh takes game one beating Point 5-4, Westphal with the win for UWO.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 11, 2012, 07:44:00 PM
Whitewater takes two at Platteville, 8-5 and 12-1 (7 innings).  Details slow to arrive.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 11, 2012, 08:30:35 PM
WIAC Standings (Through April 11th)
La Crosse 6-2
Whitewater 4-2
Stevens Point 6-4
Oshkosh 5-5
Stout 5-5
Superior 3-3
Stout 2-4
Platteville 1-9

I said it earlier, and I am sticking to it.....  The winner of the WIAC Tournament will be the only participant in the NCAA Tournament this season.  I do not see a Pool C bid coming from the WIAC this season.

It all comes down to qualifying for the 4-team double-elimination WIAC Tournament this season.  Hopefully you are playing your best ball at that time.

http://www.wiacsports.com/documents/2012/1/6/2012WIACBaseballCode.pdf

C. Format
1. The top four (4) teams based on the final regular-season standings (i.e. winning percentage) will advance to the postseason tournament. The tournament will be a double-elimination tournament conducted on a single field over a two-day period if a lighted field is available (see Attachment #1) or over a three-day period if an unlighted field is used (see Attachment #2).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 11, 2012, 08:37:39 PM
Quote from: BoBo on April 11, 2012, 07:44:00 PM
Whitewater takes two at Plattville, 8-5 and 12-1 (7 innings).  Details slow to arrive.

Kyle Stewart went 6 innings giving up 7 hits, 3 runs (2 earned) walking 3 and striking out 11 to get his sixth win in the first game.  Matthew Roberts pitched 2 shut out innings giving up 3 hits, walking 1 and striking out 2.  Michael Huckabay pitched the ninth giving up 2 earned runs on 2 hits, a walk and striking out the side.  Marty Herum went 4x5 including a triple and 2 RBI.  Ryan Leavitt was 2x3 with 4 RBI.  Matt Beyer also had a pair of hits (2x4) including a double.  Travis Wessels and Dylan Friend each had an RBI.  The 16 strikeouts by the pitching staff was one short of the team record.

Game two was a seven inning affair.  Leading 2-1 the WARHAWKS got a pair in the fifth, six in the sixth and another pair in the seventh.  Eric Schmitz went 5.2 innings to get his third win of the season surrendering 5 hits, one earned run and striking out 4.  Colin Grove finished the final 1.1 innings giving up a single hit and striking out one.  Herum stayed hot going 2x3 with a home run and 5 RBI.  Leavitt was 2x3 with a double, home run and 3 RBI.  Friend (2x3, double) and Jared Fon (2x4) also had multiple hits.  Matt Beyer (1x3) had a triple.  Friend, Fon and Andrew Bauer each had an RBI. 

Stout and Superior split.  Stout winning game one 15-7 and Superior taking game two 11-9. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 11, 2012, 10:43:08 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 11, 2012, 10:16:21 PM
You heard it here first Point will go 15-3 the next 18 games and finish 29-11 which should all but guarantee them a Pool C bid.  2 of the 3 losses will come at Whitewater and one to Superior or Oshkosh.
Add on two more losses from the WIAC Tournament....  13 losses WILL NOT earn a Pool C bid!!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 8404DOC on April 12, 2012, 08:02:27 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 11, 2012, 08:06:03 PM
Point wins game 2 11-1 in 7 innings.  Stout and Superior split.  Point has to quit giving games away.
I wouldn't say they gave the game away, they just got beat.  They did give up the go ahead run on a passed ball but they got out hit 11-7 even though they didn't throw their number one.  They had 7 hits off Westphal but Wells came in and shut them down giving up zero hits with 3 K's.  I haven't watched the WIAC for to long (three years) but this is the most closely matched I have ever seen it bar one team.  Oshkosh bats started to come alive against WW and they have a couple of pitchers who if they step up could make things interesting. We will see what happens this weekend at LAX
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 12, 2012, 09:52:15 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 11, 2012, 09:38:31 PM
All I can say is thank the man above for it being a 4 team tournament this year.  I had no idea they changed the format and was thinking Point may not make it. 

The four team format is not new this season it goes back to at least 2009.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 12, 2012, 10:31:40 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 12, 2012, 09:52:15 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 11, 2012, 09:38:31 PM
All I can say is thank the man above for it being a 4 team tournament this year.  I had no idea they changed the format and was thinking Point may not make it. 

The four team format is not new this season it goes back to at least 2009.   

No, the 2010 and 2011 tournaments are 3-team tournaments.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 12, 2012, 10:35:47 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 12, 2012, 09:52:15 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 11, 2012, 09:38:31 PM
All I can say is thank the man above for it being a 4 team tournament this year.  I had no idea they changed the format and was thinking Point may not make it. 
The four team format is not new this season it goes back to at least 2009.   
I assume he was talking about the 3-team format that was used in 2010 and 2011.  Even this format is different than the 4-team format they used in 2009 where the #3 vs #4 seeds were eliminated after one loss while the #1 and #2 were able to lose twice.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 12, 2012, 11:04:32 AM
Quote from: Just Bill on April 12, 2012, 10:31:40 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 12, 2012, 09:52:15 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 11, 2012, 09:38:31 PM
All I can say is thank the man above for it being a 4 team tournament this year.  I had no idea they changed the format and was thinking Point may not make it. 

The four team format is not new this season it goes back to at least 2009.   

No, the 2010 and 2011 tournaments are 3-team tournaments.

DOH! smacking self aside the head
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: wiacguy on April 12, 2012, 11:11:08 PM
Who has the deepest pitching in the WIAC? In other words who has the best chance on the later days of the regional?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 14, 2012, 03:40:18 PM
Game #1 Results

Whitewater 10
Stout 6

-Whitewater's Matthew Roberts with the victory, going 8 2/3 innings.  He had a chance for the CG victory after retiring the first two batters in the 9th inning, but allowed a single and home run before Quintin Zander came on and got the final out  After Stout tied the game 4-4 with three runs in the Top of the 5th inning, Whitewater takes the lead for good putting up six runs of their own in the Bottom of the 6th inning.  The teams combined for 6 HR's in the game, with Stout second baseman Jake Duske hitting two.

Stevens Point 13
Superior 5

-Point's Brad Stroik with the victory as he gives up five runs (three earned) on nine hits and a walk, while striking out five in eight innings of work.  Point scores in all but one inning, jumping out to a 4-0 lead after the first inning and tacks on runs in every inning but the fifth to coast to a 13-5 victory over the Yellow Jackets.

La Crosse 4
Oshkosh 3

La Crosse takes a 3-0 lead in the Bottom of the third inning pushing three runs across on three hits (all singles) and a walk.  Oshkosh responds quickly with three runs of their own in the Top of the fourth inning to tie the game 3-3 on four hits (all singles) and a hit batter.  It stays 3-3 all the way until the Bottom of the 9th inning when UWL's Brooks Braga triples with one out.  Follwoing a pair of walks (one intentional) to load the bases, Zach Harazin singles through the left side to give the Eagles the victory.  Braga's triple was the only extra base hit in the game for either team (17 hits combined.)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 14, 2012, 05:28:03 PM
Game #2 Scores

Whitewater 9
Stout 3
Top 8th Inning
(Whitewater with four more HR's in Game #2)

Stevens Point 5
Superior 0
Top 6th Inning

Oshkosh 1
La Crosse 1
Top 6th Inning
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 14, 2012, 07:23:14 PM
The wind was blowing out to left in Miller Stadium today.  Stout and WHITEWATER combined to hit 11 home runs.  For the WARHAWKS  Mike Mierow and Marty Herum had a pair, Jared Fon, Matt Beyer, Michael Gonzalas and Tyler Teubert had one apiece.  For Stout Jake Duske had a pair and Charlie Meyer had one.

In game one Ryan Leavitt went 3x3 (double) and drove in 3 runs.  Beyer, Herum and Gonzalas had two hits. JT Schnieder and Andrew Bauer had extra base hits. As a team the WARHAWKS had 13 hits.

In game two the WARHAWKS put a 6 spot on the board in the bottom of the second.  Stout answered with 3 in the top of third but the WARHAWKS got two back in the bottom of the inning, another run in the seventh and two more in the eighth cruising to the 11-3 win.  Jack Larson got the start but ran into trouble in the third and was relieved by Quinton Zander who pitched the next 4.2 innings shutting out the Blue Devils and striking out five.  Tom Kerndt replaced him pitching 1.1 innings with a single hit and Kyle Lee retired the final two batters.  Zandor picked up his first win of the season.  The WARHAWKS also had 13 hits in this game.  Beyer, Fon and Dylan Friend had two RBI apiece while Herum, Mierow, Schneider, Fred Gromalack and Teubert had a single RBI.  Friend (double), Mierow (home run, double), Schneider (double), Teubert (double, home run), Beyer (home run), Fon (home run) and Herum (triple, home run) had extra base hits. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 14, 2012, 10:37:24 PM
A little separation beginning to develop between the top 3 in the standings and the bottom four as a result of the top 3 all winning at home on Saturday. It'll be interesting to see if this continues.

Superior has yet to play at home in their 23 games to date!!  After sunday, 12 of their final 14 regular season games will be at home.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 15, 2012, 03:09:30 PM
Game #1 Results-Sunday

La Crosse 4
Oshkosh 3

-Game started at 11:30 as they try to beat the rain that is forecasted for later this afternoon.
-Trailing 1-0, Oshkosh scores three runs in the 9th inning with four singles, (an Eagle throwing error on a bunt single) and a balk to take a 3-1 lead.
-La Crosse reponds with three runs of their own in the bottom half of the ninth inning.  Following a strikeout to lead off the ninth, the Eagles get a double from defensive replacement Jordan DeBoer.  The Titans go to the bullpen and reliever Matt Wells proceeds to issue a pair of walks to load the bases with just one out.  CF Cole Cefalu singles in a pair of runs to tie the game 3-3.  Wells gets a line out for the second out of the inning, before walking another hitter to reload the bases.  The Eagles Jay Fanta, who the Titans chose to walk intentionally twice earlier in the game, wins the game with a single to left-centerfield.
-Oshkosh out-his La Crosse 12-9 but leaves 13 runners on base, which included having the bases loaded with one out in the seventh innning.
-UWO's Michael Polcyn continues to lead the Titans offense as he goes 4x5 in Game #1.
-Converted catcher James Lacy gets a no-decision despite holding the Eagles to two runs on seven hits and two walks while striking out six in 8 1/3 innings of work.

Stevens Point 1
Superior 0

-Point's Cam Seidl takes a no-hitter into the eighth inning, but with one out, Yellow Jackets RF Tom Fairbanks singles up the middle to break up the no-hit bid.  Seidl ends up giving up just that lone hit while facing just two batters over the minimum in the CG victory.
-Superior's Ethan Branum is the hard-luck loser as he matches Seidl pitch-for pitch, shutting out the Pointers for eight innings, despite giving up eight hits (all singles.)  Branum is pulled after giving up a lead-off single in the Bottom of the 9th inning, and the Pointers get a Sac Fly following a pair of walks for the "walk-off" victory.

Whitewater 12
Stout 1 (8 inn.)

-Kyle Stewart continues to make his claim as the WIAC Pitcher of the Year as he improves to 7-0 on the season with the CG victory.
-Whitewater scores in every inning but the seventh innging as they cruise to the victory.
-The Warhawks smacked four more HR's today giving them 12 in three games against Stout this weekend.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 15, 2012, 03:12:04 PM
WIAC Standings (Through April 15th)
La Crosse 10-2
Whitewater 8-2
Stevens Point 10-4
Oshkosh 5-9
Stout 5-9
Superior 3-7
Platteville 1-9

Game #2 Results

Stevens Point 6
Superior 5

-After spotting Superior a 5-0 lead in the Top of the first inning, Stevens Point battles back to cut the lead to 5-4 after a 3-run HR from Sean Gerber in the Bottom of the seventh inning.  Trailing by a run heading into the bottom of the ninth, the Pointers push across a pair of runs stringing together three straight singles and getting a Sac Fly from Max Mittlestaedt to score the game winner.  Max Fredericks was nearly perfect in relief by not allowing Superior to score after the first inning and giving the Pointer offense a chance to chip away.  Ryan Iverson picks up the in if relief working two scoreless innings.  The Pointers 3-5 hitters (Jirschele, Gerber, and Clark) combined to go 10x14 in the nightcap.

Whitewater 11
Stout 8

-After spotting Stout a 4-0 lead after two innings, Whitewater comes back with four runs in the Bottom of the third inning to tie the game 4-4.  The Warhawks then take the lead for good scoring three runs in the fifth, one in the sixt, and one in the seventh to open up a 9-4 lead heading into the eighth inning.  Stout tries to come back pushing three runs across in the Top of the eighth inning to close the gap to 9-7 however Whitewater answers right back with a pair of runs in the bottom half for the 11-7 final.  Stout actually out-homers Whitewater 3-1 in the series finale, with Duske hitting his third of the weekend.  Whitewater hits 13 HR's in the four game series, which was four more than they had the entire season (9 in 19 games.)

La Crosse 9
Oshkosh 8 (12 Innings)

-Oshkosh scores in the first to take their first lead of the entire four game series at La Crosse 1-0.  The lead was short lived however as the Eagles answer with a run of their own in the bottom of the first inning.  The Titans break open a 3-3 game in the fifth inning plating five runs on just three hits.  Eagle pitchers also combined to hit three Titan batters in the inning.  The Titans are unable to keep the lead however as the Eagles score a run in the Bottom of the seventh and three more in the eighth inning to tie the game 8-8.  It stays 8-8 all the way until the twelfth inning when La Crosse scores a run in the bottom of the inning.  With two outs and nobody on base, a pair of Titan errors give La Crosse a runner at second.  Cordova takes advantage of the extra out with a single up the middle for the game winner.  The Titans squandered a scoring chance in the top of the twelfth, as they had runners on 1st and 3rd with just one out.  However Eagles reliever Skyler Debilzen gets a pair of fly outs to squash the threat.   The victory by the Eagles is their fourth straight win in their final at bat and fifth in their last six WIAC contests.  All four Eagle wins in the series were decided by a single run and in the home teams final at-bat.  (4-3, 4-3, 4-3, and 9-8.)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballBob72 on April 15, 2012, 04:27:39 PM
I'm excited to see the Tuesday match up between Whitewater and Scholastica. After a shaky start for the saints they have started to turn things around and the warhawks are having a successful season themselves especially after losing the great senior class of last year. How do you think these two teams will fare in the rematch of last years regional final?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 15, 2012, 06:31:49 PM
UWW came back from a 4-0 deficit in the 2nd inning of game 2 to win 11-8 sunday and sweep the weekend from Stout.  A 4-run 3rd & 3-run 6th gave the Warhawks the lead that they kept the rest of the way.

UWW improves to 8-2/17-6 while Stout falls to 5-9/13-13 on the season.

box game 2 (http://www.uwwsports.com/boxscore.aspx?id=9025)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 15, 2012, 06:55:57 PM
Quote from: BaseballBob72 on April 15, 2012, 04:27:39 PM
I'm excited to see the Tuesday match up between Whitewater and Scholastica. After a shaky start for the saints they have started to turn things around and the warhawks are having a successful season themselves especially after losing the great senior class of last year. How do you think these two teams will fare in the rematch of last years regional final?

I'll be interested to see who we pitch.  Lietner didn't pitch this week so he would be available for one game.  After that I'm not sure who would throw game two.  With the game being on Tuesday we're on the short end for everyone who pitched this weekend but we'll have an extra day of rest before going to LaCrosse next weekend. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 15, 2012, 09:00:22 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 15, 2012, 08:20:08 PM
Talk about a kid being mentally tough how about Max Frederik coming up huge for Point today in game 2.  The kid should get the game ball for that performance.  Comes in after basically losing his spot in rotation temporarily to Wendorf and throws a gem. 
What in the heck are you talking about?  Frederick started on Wednesday, while Wendorf only threw two innings in relief.  With Point already winning the first three games of the series, Bloom was able to "gamble" and start Wendorf and give Frederick some extra rest.  Since Wendorf couldn't find the plate, Bloom was forced to go to Frederick.  Using your logic, Westphal must have "lost his spot in the rotation" as well since he came on in relief today.  ::)

I am used to you making some outrageous claims, but I'd think after awhile you would get tired of looking stupid....  I suppose next week you will tell us that Point will lose to the Manawa JV team if they drop a game to Edgewood this week.   ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on April 15, 2012, 09:12:24 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 15, 2012, 06:55:57 PM
Quote from: BaseballBob72 on April 15, 2012, 04:27:39 PM
I'm excited to see the Tuesday match up between Whitewater and Scholastica. After a shaky start for the saints they have started to turn things around and the warhawks are having a successful season themselves especially after losing the great senior class of last year. How do you think these two teams will fare in the rematch of last years regional final?

I'll be interested to see who we pitch.  Lietner didn't pitch this week so he would be available for one game.  After that I'm not sure who would throw game two.  With the game being on Tuesday we're on the short end for everyone who pitched this weekend but we'll have an extra day of rest before going to LaCrosse next weekend.

Likewise it will be interesting to see who CSS pitches as they have not really had a shut down #1 emerge.  It does appear as though they saved their top arms over the weekend so I would guess they will be throwing on Tuesday.  That is a luxury of a playing in a weak conference, but on the other hand, the luxury of playing in a strong conference is that your 1-8 pitchers have all been tested throughout the season and come tournament time, they are all ready to go.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: wiacguy on April 15, 2012, 11:16:30 PM
Whitewater should beat up on Scholastica in the midweek game.  I dont think Scholastica has near the depth or talent they had last year.  Whitewater may not be quite as good as last year either but they should be a deeper team.  One thing to consider however is that Scholastica can pitch their big guns (whoever you would consider one) because they play in the UMAC whereas Whitewater has to prepare for a tough weekend series with first place Lacrosse in the WIAC.  Because of that dont be surprised to see Scholastica beat them.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on April 16, 2012, 08:44:21 AM
Quote from: wiacguy on April 15, 2012, 11:16:30 PM
Whitewater should beat up on Scholastica in the midweek game.  I dont think Scholastica has near the depth or talent they had last year.  Whitewater may not be quite as good as last year either but they should be a deeper team.  One thing to consider however is that Scholastica can pitch their big guns (whoever you would consider one) because they play in the UMAC whereas Whitewater has to prepare for a tough weekend series with first place Lacrosse in the WIAC.  Because of that dont be surprised to see Scholastica beat them.

So...Whitewater should beat up on Scholastica in a midweek game but don't be surprised if Scholastica beats Whitewater??
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scrapper on April 16, 2012, 09:53:34 AM
CSS has not really relied on one pitcher this year.  They have been basically using a 4-man rotation so I would guess that you will see whichever pitcher is up on their rotation.  As far as Whitewater cleaning up on CSS, I highly doubt that.  CSS is a very good team and can play with all of your supposedly vastly superior WIAC teams.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIACLUV on April 16, 2012, 09:59:46 AM
I'm seeing a split here, St. scholastica and Witewater both have enough pitching to make these a couple good games to see. Both of these teams played teams last weekend that allowed them to hold some pitching. It will be interesting to see if Leitner does throw, you'd have to assume that was the reason they didn't use him last weekend. Having seen both of these teams top arms, I give a slight edge to St. Scholastica's top 3, although Davis hasn't pitched isnce real early in the season and I haven't heard why. Should be good games. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scrapper on April 16, 2012, 10:33:37 AM
I have to believe that Davis won't pitch this year.  Like you said, he hasn't pitched since the 1st series of the year so I would believe that is a season ending injury.  Should be good series for both teams.  Remember,  CSS swept a DH from La-Crosse earlier this year and they could have beaten St Thomas in both of the games they played earlier so they should be ready.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 16, 2012, 10:35:09 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on April 16, 2012, 08:44:21 AM
Quote from: wiacguy on April 15, 2012, 11:16:30 PM
Whitewater should beat up on Scholastica in the midweek game.  I dont think Scholastica has near the depth or talent they had last year.  Whitewater may not be quite as good as last year either but they should be a deeper team.  One thing to consider however is that Scholastica can pitch their big guns (whoever you would consider one) because they play in the UMAC whereas Whitewater has to prepare for a tough weekend series with first place Lacrosse in the WIAC.  Because of that dont be surprised to see Scholastica beat them.

So...Whitewater should beat up on Scholastica in a midweek game but don't be surprised if Scholastica beats Whitewater??

That's essentially what they said.  ;)

CSS is an excellent program and always competitive with the WIAC programs regardless.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 16, 2012, 10:52:24 AM
Quote from: scrapper on April 16, 2012, 09:53:34 AM
CSS has not really relied on one pitcher this year.  They have been basically using a 4-man rotation so I would guess that you will see whichever pitcher is up on their rotation.  As far as Whitewater cleaning up on CSS, I highly doubt that.  CSS is a very good team and can play with all of your supposedly vastly superior WIAC teams.
Playing with and beating are two different things....   ;)

There is a reason a WIAC team has won the Midwest Regional eight of the past nine years.  The WIAC and MIAC teams flat out have more depth and that has been proven on the field each year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 16, 2012, 11:03:49 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 15, 2012, 03:12:04 PM
.  Whitewater hits 13 HR's in the four game series, which was four more than they had the entire season (9 in 19 games.)

.  All four Eagle wins in the series were decided by a single run and in the home teams final at-bat.  (4-3, 4-3, 4-3, and 9-8.)


While the wind was a factor in this weekend's series with Stout there was only one home run from either team in which it appeared to be the difference between the ball staying in the park and clearing the fence.  The rest of them were going out regardless.  On a positive note three or four balls bounced over the fence for ground rule doubles and the officiating crews got all of them correct.  ;)

I have to take my hat off to LaCrosse.  Four one games all decided by one run in the final at bat and all four wins is very impressive.  It's one thing to win a couple of them but winning all four makes a statement.  I'll be interested to see how well we can match up with them this weekend.  Unfortunately I'm unable to attend.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scrapper on April 16, 2012, 11:25:44 AM
Cubs man, remember CSS has played with and beaten your league-leading La-Crosse team both games of a DH.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 16, 2012, 11:41:39 AM
Quote from: scrapper on April 16, 2012, 11:25:44 AM
Cubs man, remember CSS has played with and beaten your league-leading La-Crosse team both games of a DH.
And neither win was in nine inings.  BIG difference between seven inning and nine inning games!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 16, 2012, 11:43:32 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 16, 2012, 11:03:49 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 15, 2012, 03:12:04 PM
.  All four Eagle wins in the series were decided by a single run and in the home teams final at-bat.  (4-3, 4-3, 4-3, and 9-8.)
I have to take my hat off to LaCrosse.  Four one games all decided by one run in the final at bat and all four wins is very impressive.  It's one thing to win a couple of them but winning all four makes a statement.  I'll be interested to see how well we can match up with them this weekend.  Unfortunately I'm unable to attend.
According to the Baseball Book of Odds, the odds of winning four straight one run games in walk off fashion are 1:187,177...  IMPRESSIVE to say the least!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scrapper on April 16, 2012, 11:58:15 AM
Cubs man, One game went 8 innings and the other game CSS was the home team.  CSS would have had 3 at bats to La-Crosse's 2 at bats.  No BIG difference.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 16, 2012, 12:29:16 PM
Quote from: scrapper on April 16, 2012, 11:58:15 AM
Cubs man, One game went 8 innings and the other game CSS was the home team.  CSS would have had 3 at bats to La-Crosse's 2 at bats.  No BIG difference.
Really?  Tell that to the very same La Crosse team that won all four of their games in the 9th inning or later this weekend.  Nine inning games challenge a teams depth....  When a team lacks depth, it's tough to win a Regional. 

Think it's just a coincidence that a WIAC team, who plays a minimum of four (and sometimes six) 9-inning conference games each week has won the Regionals eight of the last nine years?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on April 16, 2012, 12:40:01 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 16, 2012, 12:29:16 PM
Quote from: scrapper on April 16, 2012, 11:58:15 AM
Cubs man, One game went 8 innings and the other game CSS was the home team.  CSS would have had 3 at bats to La-Crosse's 2 at bats.  No BIG difference.
Really?  Tell that to the very same La Crosse team that won all four of their games in the 9th inning or later this weekend.  Nine inning games challenge a teams depth....  When a team lacks depth, it's tough to win a Regional. 

Think it's just a coincidence that a WIAC team, who plays a minimum of four (and sometimes six) 9-inning conference games each week has won the Regionals eight of the last nine years?

I agree with Cubs here.  These WIAC teams are deeper and the results speak for themselves. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 16, 2012, 12:50:05 PM
And let it be known, I am not trying to put St. Scholastica's program down. 

Scrapper wanted to take a "jab" with his "vastly superior WIAC teams" comment, well I just reponded.  I think winning eight out of the last nine Midwest Regional Championships is evidence enough of what has happened on the field when the season is on the line.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scrapper on April 16, 2012, 01:20:03 PM
Was not taking a "jab" at anyone.  I was just responding to the comment made of how W-W would beat up on CSS. I totally respect your conference as one of the preeminent conference in D3 and loved how WW basketball and football teams won it all.  Great to see the Midwest do well on the national scene.  Most of your posters are real humble and respect your opponents but some of you have no respect for other teams. When someone else says anything about your teams you like to jump down their throat and show how superior you are and how inferior they are.  Would love to see a Midwest team win the baseball title whether it be a WIAC,MIAC,or UMAC team.  I respect all of the Midwest teams and cheer for them all.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 16, 2012, 01:44:11 PM
Quote from: scrapper on April 16, 2012, 01:20:03 PM
Was not taking a "jab" at anyone.  I was just responding to the comment made of how W-W would beat up on CSS. I totally respect your conference as one of the preeminent conference in D3 and loved how WW basketball and football teams won it all.  Great to see the Midwest do well on the national scene.  Most of your posters are real humble and respect your opponents but some of you have no respect for other teams. When someone else says anything about your teams you like to jump down their throat and show how superior you are and how inferior they are.  Would love to see a Midwest team win the baseball title whether it be a WIAC,MIAC,or UMAC team.  I respect all of the Midwest teams and cheer for them all.
I would like to think I am fairly complimentary of the other teams in the Region.  I know I enjoyed playing against the late Coach Baggs' Saints teams.  He was one of the few guys that would actually have his guys help get the field ready if we had snow/rain issues. 

As far as the original post, consider the source...  A guy that has been on here for just over a week does not represent the majority.  I would like to think the Midwest baseball boards are pretty cordial.  I apologize if I ruffled any feathers!!!  Again, just took offense to the "vastly superior" comment.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scrapper on April 16, 2012, 02:05:29 PM
Cubs, my feathers are back in place and all is well.  Lets go Midwest regional teams and bring back another title whomever it shall be.  Hopefully some teams from other regions will not be shipped into this region.  The teams in this region might not have the best records but they are some of the best teams in the nation.  There records are not as good because of the strength of the teams they play and the strength of their schedules.  The bottom teams in this region have drastically improved and make this one of the top regions from top to bottom.  There are not a lot of pushover teams anymore.  Witness the strength from the top to bottom of the WIAC and MIAC.  Almost anyone can beat anyone on any given day.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 16, 2012, 02:22:10 PM
Quote from: scrapper on April 16, 2012, 02:05:29 PM
Cubs, my feathers are back in place and all is well.  Lets go Midwest regional teams and bring back another title whomever it shall be.  Hopefully some teams from other regions will not be shipped into this region.  The teams in this region might not have the best records but they are some of the best teams in the nation.  There records are not as good because of the strength of the teams they play and the strength of their schedules.  The bottom teams in this region have drastically improved and make this one of the top regions from top to bottom.  There are not a lot of pushover teams anymore.  Witness the strength from the top to bottom of the WIAC and MIAC.  Almost anyone can beat anyone on any given day.

I have a feeling a CCIW or IIAC team may be headed that way... or maybe one of each? Moving the Central regional to Tennessee puts a few of theose potential teams out of driving range for the NCAA.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 17, 2012, 05:03:07 PM
CSS takes game one 5-4 in 10 innings.  CSS gets four runs in the third. All four runs scored with two outs.  WW answers with a pair in the third and fifth.  CSS gets the game winner with two outs on a 0-2 blooper to right field in the top of the tenth.   A wild pitch proved critical as it allowed the winning run to advance to scoring position without an out. 

Quinton Zander started (4.2 inn, 6 hits, 4 er, 1 walk, 3 ks).  Jack Larson relieved him (3.1 inn, 1 hit, 0 runs, 2 walks, 3 ks).  Matthew Roberts took the loss (2.1 inn, 2 hits, 1 er, 1 walk, 1 k).  Marty Herum 3x5 led the 11 hit offense for the WARHAWKS.  Ryan Leavitt (double), Matt Beyer (triple) and Dylan Friend (triple) had extra base hits. 

Kyle Moody tripled and had 3 RBI for CSS.  He also scored the winning run. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 17, 2012, 06:26:53 PM
Have to wonder if Whitewater's Leitner is having arm problems again or if he just isn't pitching due to his recent poor outings....  I would think he would have got the start in one of the games today instead of bringing guys back like Zander, Larson and Roberts who all threw on Saturday and had just two days rest.

EDIT:  Well I guess it's not arm problems...  Leitner comes on in relief in the 9th inning following a lead-off walk for CSS with the Warhawks holding a 4-2 lead.  He induces a 5-4-3 double play and ?? Live Stats Froze
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 17, 2012, 06:58:22 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 17, 2012, 06:26:53 PM
Have to wonder if Whitewater's Leitner is having arm problems again or if he just isn't pitching due to his recent poor outings....  I would think he would have got the start in one of the games today instead of bringing guys back like Zander, Larson and Roberts who all threw on Saturday and had just two days rest.

EDIT:  Well I guess it's not arm problems...  Leitner comes on in relief in the 9th inning following a lead-off walk for CSS with the Warhawks holding a 4-2 lead.  He induces a 5-4-3 double play and ?? Live Stats Froze

He struck out the next batter to close out the game 4-2 and earn a save.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIACLUV on April 18, 2012, 01:39:04 PM
Apparently Whitewater has their eyes on a C-bid in case the WIAC tourney does not go in their favor based on the arms they ran out against St. Scholastica on Tuesday. Reading the play by play it looks as if St. Scholastica may have had a chance to sweep if they could have cashed in at a couple key spots. I think both of these teams will make a regional (WW either WIAC tourn. or Pool C) and CSS (UMAC Auto bid), would be fun to watch a rematch live. Any predictions for the weekend matchup of WW & LAX?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 8404DOC on April 18, 2012, 03:31:30 PM
IMO, I predict LAX takes 3 of 4. UWO played well against LAX but couldn't close the deal on any of the four games and LAX looked like they have the swagger.  Seeing all 12 UWO vs WW, SP, and LAX I have to say the WIAC is pretty evenly matched as any of those games execpt one or two could have easily gone either way. This weekedn should shake out the true top four.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 18, 2012, 06:13:08 PM
So did ShineTime pull a quick exit again? 

Wonder what name he will show up with next?  I went to quote one of his recent posts and voila....  It's gone!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 18, 2012, 10:13:37 PM
I'm still around and watched Point slaughter Edgewood tonight.  I still can't believe that if Point goes 30-10 or 29-11 they won't make regionals.  I'm having a tough time figuring out how La Crosse isn't even getting a vote for top 25 they are tough as hell.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 18, 2012, 10:23:30 PM
And how about giving me some credit on things I've been right about over the years for example:  Cody Koback, Whitewater basketball, and Michael Polcyn. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 18, 2012, 10:35:05 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 18, 2012, 10:13:37 PM
I'm still around and watched Point slaughter Edgewood tonight.  I still can't believe that if Point goes 30-10 or 29-11 they won't make regionals.  I'm having a tough time figuring out how La Crosse isn't even getting a vote for top 25 they are tough as hell.

Hey... I voted for LAX in the top 25:)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 18, 2012, 10:46:00 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 18, 2012, 10:35:05 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 18, 2012, 10:13:37 PM
I'm still around and watched Point slaughter Edgewood tonight.  I still can't believe that if Point goes 30-10 or 29-11 they won't make regionals.  I'm having a tough time figuring out how La Crosse isn't even getting a vote for top 25 they are tough as hell.

Hey... I voted for LAX in the top 25:)
So did someone else ...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 19, 2012, 12:39:10 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 18, 2012, 10:23:30 PM
And how about giving me some credit on things I've been right about over the years for example:  Cody Koback, Whitewater basketball, and Michael Polcyn.
Koback.... Check
Whitewater Basketball.... 1/2 Check (Didn't you say they were going to go undefeated in WIAC Play?)

Polcyn...  Not so much.  While I still think he would be starting at third for Point, he will not win the WIAC Position Player of the Year as a freshman like you predicted.

So was Frederick on bat boy duty today since according to you he lost his spot in the rotation?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 19, 2012, 07:22:47 AM
I honestly thought they were trying to change up the rotation I wasn't trying to cut down Frederik.  Believe me he is one my favorite players on the team to watch being he's from New London which is next door to Manawa.  I would say he has made the greatest improvement of any Pointer since last year with the exception of Seidl.  Following Point for as long as I have now I can't recall a time really where Coach Bloom has not started his #1 in a WIAC DH where the guy had 3 full days of rest.  I just had figured if they were going to gamble and see how Wendorf was coming along they would've done it and maybe scratched JP or Brad instead of Max whose been their #1 guy all year long.  I'm definitely not bashing the decision I think you guys know by now if I was a scout I would be in love with Wendorf.  As far as Polcyn he's solid and would start for Point at 3B but Spetz has the potential to be a very good player so I don't know there would be much of a drop off.  I do have to wonder though if Polcyn wouldn't be doing better for Point seeing he would have so many great hitters around him.  He would probably be hitting 7th for Point.  I'm really hoping Point can finish 8-2 at the worst and either win the WIAC tourney or take 2nd.  I just cannot see how a 32-12 Point team wouldn't get a bid especially when they've been in the top 20 all season.  Can Lechnir please sit Westphal next Wednesday against Point?  That would all but guarantee a Pointer sweep which would be huge.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 19, 2012, 08:39:17 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 19, 2012, 07:22:47 AM
As far as Polcyn he's solid and would start for Point at 3B but Spetz has the potential to be a very good player so I don't know there would be much of a drop off.  I do have to wonder though if Polcyn wouldn't be doing better for Point seeing he would have so many great hitters around him.  He would probably be hitting 7th for Point.
Wouldn't Polcyn have the same "potential" as Spetz since they are both freshmen?  The only difference is is that Polcyn is producing as a freshman, while Spetz is struggling.  Polcyn is hiting over 125 points higher that Spetz and has 10 extra base hits compared to zero for Spetz.  That's a HUGE difference!!!  Factor in the defense, and Polcyn has just one more error than Spetz in 40+ more chances.

Your right though....  There wouldn't be "much of a drop off...." ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: wiacguy on April 19, 2012, 11:25:43 AM
The top 25 rankings are a joke... There is no way there is 25 better teams in the country than Lacrosse.  Too much credit is given for record, even if teams do not have quality wins.  For example St. Thomas is 12-0 in conference and ranked #3, but their conference is not nearly as tough as the WIAC, they would at least have a few losses in the WIAC
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 19, 2012, 12:03:28 PM
Quote from: wiacguy on April 19, 2012, 11:25:43 AM
The top 25 rankings are a joke... There is no way there is 25 better teams in the country than Lacrosse.  Too much credit is given for record, even if teams do not have quality wins.  For example St. Thomas is 12-0 in conference and ranked #3, but their conference is not nearly as tough as the WIAC, they would at least have a few losses in the WIAC

Possibly... but St. Thomas is 5-3 against the BIG FOUR in the WIAC. I agree that LAX is underrated, but that is no reason to discount what St. Thomas has done this point.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIACLUV on April 19, 2012, 12:29:45 PM
Nobody will disagree that the Top 25 is an opinion, however you are right in the fact that the WIAC is a meat grinder with the four 9-inning game weekends. Without a doubt going through that schedule is far tougher than most any conference in the country. The benefit of being more ready for a regional far outweighs the complimentry benefit of being ranked. The regional rankings will reflect the true cream of the regions crop when all the numbers are taken into account. SOS is a big one and I have no doubt that LAX will be in the top 3 when the first ranking come out next week. Also think Point and Whitewater will be in there as well. The Midwest is down as compared to years past, and though it seems that there is not a real dominant WIAC team as in years past, they're schedules will keep them ranked accordingly in the poll that matters.
So you're also aware the Tommies have played an OK schedule outside of the MIAC as well:

2-0 vs St. Scholastica (pre-season top 25 -who swept LAX)
1-1 vs LAX
1-1 vs WW (Currently ranked #20)
2-0 vs Osh
1-1 vs UWSP (Currently ranked #16)
0-1 vs Ramapo (Currently RV, #18 at the time)
2-0 vs Conc Chi (Currently RV)

Are the Tommies a Top 5 team, probably not yet but well deserving of a top 10.

In contrast, #16 UWSP non-conference includes:
1-1 vs Tommies
1-1 vs St. Olaf (Last place in the MIAC)
2-0 vs Gustavus
1-1 vs St. Norberts
2-0 vs Edgewood
4/21 vs Ripon
So should LAX be ranked and UWSP not be?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: wiacguy on April 19, 2012, 12:56:50 PM
I agree that St. Thomas is a very good team, very capable of winning the region because of their pitching, but I am just saying that the top 25 rankings are a bunch of crap.  There is no way St. Thomas would be 12-0 in the WIAC, and therefore they would not be ranked number 3 in the country.

My regional rankings : (I know only 6 make it but I am ranking 8 who I think have a chance of getting in)

1. St. Thomas
2. UWSP
3. Whitewater
4. Scholastica
5. Lacrosse
6. Concordia (ill.)
7. St. Johns
8. Aurora 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 19, 2012, 12:58:57 PM
I see the Midwest rankings this way:
1. UST
2. LAX
3. Whitewater (though 2 and 3 could flip after their series this weekend)
4. St. Scholastica
5. Stevens Point
6/7. Aurora/Concordia-Chicago
8. St. Johns
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIACLUV on April 19, 2012, 01:23:26 PM
Quote from: wiacguy on April 19, 2012, 12:56:50 PM
I agree that St. Thomas is a very good team, very capable of winning the region because of their pitching, but I am just saying that the top 25 rankings are a bunch of crap.  There is no way St. Thomas would be 12-0 in the WIAC, and therefore they would not be ranked number 3 in the country.


That is essentially like trying to compare a 1 loss SEC team to an Undefeated PAC 10 team in D1 football, its a flawed grouping of opinion. And of course they wouldn't be 12-0 in the WIAC they are offensively an average hitting team, which could be there downfall at a regional.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIACLUV on April 19, 2012, 01:34:22 PM
I'll take a crack at a ranking as well:

1. St. Thomas
2. LAX (as of this moment, this weekend will tell us a lot)
3. Whitewater
4. Aurora (could be dropping after the Rockford split)
5. Point
6. St. Scholastica
7. Conc. Chi (rough last week gets them jumped by CSS)
8) St. Johns
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 19, 2012, 02:00:07 PM
Quote from: MIACLUV on April 19, 2012, 12:29:45 PM
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So should LAX be ranked and UWSP not be?
That's how I voted.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 19, 2012, 02:15:52 PM
Quote from: MIACLUV on April 19, 2012, 01:34:22 PM
I'll take a crack at a ranking as well:

1. St. Thomas
2. LAX (as of this moment, this weekend will tell us a lot)
3. Whitewater
4. Aurora (could be dropping after the Rockford split)
5. Point
6. St. Scholastica
7. Conc. Chi (rough last week gets them jumped by CSS)
8) St. Johns
I'm on board with most of this too.

To add to the recent banter (seemingly annual banter on this topic despite the MIAC showing reasonably well at regionals over the years), in January the MIAC executive director said conference baseball coaches put forth a proposal to athletic directors that would change MIAC doubleheaders to one nine and one seven starting next season if approved.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on April 19, 2012, 02:59:55 PM
Quote from: MIACLUV on April 19, 2012, 01:23:26 PM


That is essentially like trying to compare a 1 loss SEC team to an Undefeated PAC 10 team in D1 football, its a flawed grouping of opinion. And of course they wouldn't be 12-0 in the WIAC they are offensively an average hitting team, which could be there downfall at a regional.

They might be offensively average, but they are getting it done over and over and over again in these close games.  They don't make errors, they don't give up runs, and they don't make stupid mistakes.  You don't need much offense when you do everything else perfectly.

As for the 1st ranking... hard to disagree with MIACLuv here.  Augsburg and Macalaster both stumbled a bit this week so I think that makes St. Johns the next best bet from the MIAC.  I'll go like this...

1. STU
2. LAX
3. Whitewater
4. Point
5. Aurora
6. Conc Chi
7.  CSS
8. St Johns

I think ultimately that the WIAC will the get respect it deserves by those who are voting.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIACLUV on April 19, 2012, 05:47:55 PM
Like the UMAC, I can't see the NAC getting two bids regardless of the rankings. The schedule for both of those teams is unimpressive to say the least, legistics or not the WIAC may be a 3 team bid this year. I could see this being one of the 8 team regionals to get the NCAA bailed out for putting the central regional in TN

8 Team Midwest Regional
* MIAC Champion (UST)
* WIAC Champion ( LAX, WW, SP)
* UMAC Champion (CSS)
* NAC Champion (Aurora)
* MWC Champion (Flip a coin, any of them would be an #8 seed)
* IIAC Champion (Central????)
* WIAC (Pool C)
* WIAC (Pool C)
WIAC gets at least one C bid, and since the NCAA will likely not want to fly teams, it only makes sense. Lastly I think there are two C bids to come out of the Midwest (upsets aside) the last choice would come down to a NAC vs WIAC which is pretty much a lock for the WIAC on SOS alone.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 19, 2012, 06:01:44 PM
Throwing it out there early: a team from the area could fly to Oregon this year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 19, 2012, 06:11:15 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on April 19, 2012, 06:01:44 PM
Throwing it out there early: a team from the area could fly to Oregon this year.
Agreed!!!  Now that Chapman is out of the Pool B group, the Oregon Region is going to be a team short for their 6-team Regional.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 21, 2012, 03:33:13 PM
Trailing 3-1 LaCrosse scores 5 runs over the last three at bats and takes game one 6-3 with timely hitting and aided by 4 wild pitches and a balk from Stewart. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brian Carroll on April 21, 2012, 06:29:43 PM
La Crosse wins the nightcap 5-3 to sweep Whitewater.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 21, 2012, 06:48:36 PM
Point takes 2 from Ripon today.  10-3 and 5-2.  J.P. is a very tough pitcher for a freshman.  Point's rotation is starting to look really impressive.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 21, 2012, 09:50:15 PM
Congrats to UW Oshkosh head coach Tom Lechnir for his 700th and 701st career wins today.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 22, 2012, 03:47:31 PM
My congratulations to Coach Lechnir as well!!!! 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 22, 2012, 03:50:35 PM
La Crosse starting to distance themself from the pack, as they once again win in "walk-off" fashion, winning their third straight against the Warhawks 6-5.  Cole Cefalu with the big shot, a grand slam with two outs in the Bottom of the 7th to turn a 4-1 deficit into a 5-4 Eagles lead.  Cefalu then comes through again after the Warhawks tied it up.  With two outs in Bottom of the 9th inning, Cefalu rips a single up the middle to drive in the game winner.  Cefalu finishes 2x4 in the game, with 5 RBI's.

Oshkosh also gets some seperation from everyone else for the fourth and final spot in the WIAC tournament with their third straight victory over Stout, 8-3.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 22, 2012, 03:59:47 PM
La Crosse will get to face Westphal first round of WIAC tourney.  I like Point's chances more as a #2 or #3 seed going in. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 22, 2012, 04:03:17 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 22, 2012, 03:59:47 PM
La Crosse will get to face Westphal first round of WIAC tourney.  I like Point's chances more as a #2 or #3 seed going in.
Also means Point will face Stewart in their first game of the tournament if Point and Whitewater are the #2 and #3 seeds....  Not exactly an easy task either!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 22, 2012, 04:04:39 PM
I get it but I still think Westphal is more dominant.  Either way the way Seidl is throwing Point can beat anyone.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 22, 2012, 06:10:02 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 22, 2012, 04:04:39 PM
I get it but I still think Westphal is more dominant.  Either way the way Seidl is throwing Point can beat anyone.
While Westphal was dominant last season, he hasn't been the same pitcher this year.  There is a reason he has lost five games already.  Compare that to Stewart who has started 8 games and is 7-1 on the season, with an ERA of 2.50. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 22, 2012, 06:56:04 PM
WIAC Standings (Through April 22nd)
La Crosse 14-2
Stevens Point 10-4
Whitewater 8-6
Oshkosh 9-9
Superior 5-7
Stout 5-13
Platteville 1-11

-La Crosse sweeps all four games from Whitewater in impressive fashion, and puts themselves in great position to win the WIAC Regular season championship and host the WIAC Tournament.  After going 10-2 against the "Big Three" the Eagles just have to go 6-2 against Stout and Superior to clinch the title.

-Oshkosh sweeps all four games from Stout and positions themselves for the fourth and final spot in the WIAC Tournament.

-Superior knocks off Platteville twice in a pair of close games.  They will play another DH Monday to make up the games that were originally scheduled for today.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 23, 2012, 09:26:58 AM
A short time ago there was some discussion on the difference between 7 and 9 inning games.  In the WARHAWK/LaCrosse weekend series the WARHAWKS held leads in the seventh inning in three of them and lost all three. 

Unless we can win the conference tournament it's likely we just played ourselves out of the post season this weekend.  :-(
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 23, 2012, 09:44:12 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 23, 2012, 09:26:58 AM
A short time ago there was some discussion on the difference between 7 and 9 inning games.  In the WARHAWK/LaCrosse weekend series the WARHAWKS held leads in the seventh inning in three of them and lost all three. 

Unless we can win the conference tournament it's likely we just played ourselves out of the post season this weekend.  :-(

I agree...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 8404DOC on April 23, 2012, 09:54:41 AM
Quote from: 8404DOC on April 18, 2012, 03:31:30 PM
IMO, I predict LAX takes 3 of 4. UWO played well against LAX but couldn't close the deal on any of the four games and LAX looked like they have the swagger.  Seeing all 12 UWO vs WW, SP, and LAX I have to say the WIAC is pretty evenly matched as any of those games execpt one or two could have easily gone either way. This weekedn should shake out the true top four.
OK, I was one off as LAX takes four from WW. I think UWO faired better vs LAX as all four of their one run games were much closer.  If UWO had a shut down closer I think things would ave been much different last weekend. I actually like UWO's chances as the #4 seed vs LAX and predict an upset if that matchup plays out.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scrapper on April 23, 2012, 02:01:54 PM
short time ago there was some discussion on the difference between 7 and 9 inning games.  In the WARHAWK/LaCrosse weekend series the WARHAWKS held leads in the seventh inning in three of them and lost all three.                                                                                                                                                                                         

But if you look at the box scores La-Crosse would have won all 4 games if they were only 7 inning games also.  At the end of 7 innings La-Crosse was leading in all 4 games.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 23, 2012, 02:15:48 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 23, 2012, 09:26:58 AM
A short time ago there was some discussion on the difference between 7 and 9 inning games.  In the WARHAWK/LaCrosse weekend series the WARHAWKS held leads in the seventh inning in three of them and lost all three. 
Unless we can win the conference tournament it's likely we just played ourselves out of the post season this weekend.  :-(
Sorry, BW, but Whitewater only had a 7th inning lead in one of the four games, Game #1 on Sunday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 23, 2012, 03:05:49 PM
My bad.  Thanks for the correction.

Not that it matters because they were nine inning games and we lost all four.  Our SID is reporting that it was the first four game weekend series lost in a decade.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 8404DOC on April 24, 2012, 11:11:32 AM
LAX finally breaks into the top 25 ranked at 22nd.  SP rises to 13th place from a previous ranking of 16th, don't understand that.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 24, 2012, 11:14:13 AM
Quote from: 8404DOC on April 24, 2012, 11:11:32 AM
LAX finally breaks into the top 25 ranked at 22nd.  SP rises to 13th place from a previous ranking of 16th, don't understand that.

I think the Central and Midwest voters understand, but others have yet to grasp the validity of LAX's season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: wiacguy on April 24, 2012, 11:08:50 PM
completely agree, LAX can play with anybody up in the top 10, they took one game from #2 St. Thomas, and they are in first place in one of the toughest conferences in the country
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 24, 2012, 11:44:14 PM
So with the weather reports looking kind of gloomy for tomorrow, it will be interesting to see what Stevens Point wil do if the games are rained out and pushed back to Thursday.  Do they use Seidl and Frederick on Thursday and only have two days rest for the pair of DH's against Whitewater or do they "save" them for the weekend and throw a few guys down in the rotation?

If it was me, I throw Seidl and Frederick Thursday if the games get pushed back.  Who knows, maybe it rains over the weekend and games get pushed back to Monday?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 25, 2012, 02:05:52 PM
Well games are on as planned in Oshkosh...

Game #1 pitching match-up sees Stevens Point sending Max Federick to the bump while Oshkosh counters with Senior Troy Mrkvicka, who is making his first start of the season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 25, 2012, 02:09:43 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 25, 2012, 02:05:52 PM
Well games are on as planned in Oshkosh...

Game #1 pitching match-up sees Stevens Point sending Max Federick to the bump while Oshkosh counters with Senior Troy Mrkvicka, who is making his first start of the season.
Heading out in the drizzle now. I'll know where my illness originated. I have that going for me, which is nice.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 25, 2012, 02:28:56 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 25, 2012, 02:05:52 PM
Well games are on as planned in Oshkosh...

Game #1 pitching match-up sees Stevens Point sending Max Federick to the bump while Oshkosh counters with Senior Troy Mrkvicka, who is making his first start of the season.
Easy to see why it is his first start of the season...  1/3 of an inning pitched, 4 runs (all earned) on three hits, two walks, and a hit batter, as the Pointers bat around in the 1st inning and take an early 4-0 lead.

Freshman Chase Stenson has come on in relief and retired eight straight Pointers to keep it a 4-0 game and give the Titan offense a chance to chip away.  Fellow freshman Michael Polcyn does just that as he rips a 2-run double to right field to make it a 4-2 game after three innings.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 25, 2012, 04:55:55 PM
Oshkosh battles all the way back from an early 4-0 deficit to take a 5-4 lead after six innings.  Stenson was solid in relief throwing 5 2/3 innings of hitless baseball while striking out three and walking just one.

Stevens Point however comes back with single runs in the 7th and 8th innings off of Lacy to re-take the lead 6-5.  Cam Seidl comes on to close things out in the 9th inning aloowing just a two out single as Stevens Point holds on and defeats Oshkosh 6-5.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 25, 2012, 05:03:49 PM
Platteville has defeated Whitewater 14-9 in game 1.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 25, 2012, 06:49:49 PM
Superior comes all the way back from a 7-0 deficit to knock off Stout 12-10 in Game #1 today.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 25, 2012, 07:40:19 PM
WHITEWATER snaps 5 game losing streak with a 10-2 win in game two.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 25, 2012, 08:53:55 PM
Oshkosh blows 7-2 lead as Point scores six runs in the 5th-8th innings to win 8-7... 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 25, 2012, 09:12:29 PM
WIAC Standings (Through April 25th)
La Crosse 14-2
Stevens Point 12-4
Whitewater 9-7
Superior 8-8
Oshkosh 9-11
Stout 6-14
Platteville 2-14

Oshkosh gets some help from Stout at the Blue Devils score a pair of runs in the Bottom of the 9th inning to beat Superior in the nightcap.

The Titans MUST sweep Platteville this weekend to have any chance at qualifying for the WIAC Tournament.  If you are an Oshkosh fan, you are pulling for La Crosse to stay RED HOT and sweep all four from Superior this weekend.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 25, 2012, 09:19:43 PM
Can this week possibly get any better?  Point gets monumental sweep and NFL draft starts tomorrow night.  Let's hope Point can take at least 2 this weekend at Whitewater and win all 4 vs Platteville.  It would be hard to envision them not getting in to regionals if they finish 2nd in the WIAC as long as they don't go 2 and out in WIAC tourney.  Some say the WIAC is down this year but I'm going back and forth on it.  Superior with their top 2 on the hill can play with anyone.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 25, 2012, 09:31:14 PM
Something tells me Oshkosh is going to take 3 out of 4 from Platteville and Superior is going to take 1 or 2 from La Crosse.  I have a ton of respect for La Crosse and realize sometimes it takes luck to win a conference but eventually luck runs out for a weekend.  How about this strategy seeing Whitewater essentially now has to win the WIAC to make regionals?  Don't pitch Stewart this weekend in anticipation that you will get the #3 and face #2 Point round one.  I think it would be a huge mistake for them to pitch him for more than an inning or two and it would greatly benefit Point if they see him this weekend.  I realize Whitewater hasn't locked up a tourney bid yet but I'm guessing they have no preference between La Crosse and Point but would assume they would rather see Verthein than Seidl game 1.  I for one am hoping Oshkosh find a way in and knocks off La Crosse game 1. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 26, 2012, 09:44:01 AM
The WIAC tournament isn't until May 11th.  In addition to Point this weekend the WARHAWKS have a pair of double hitters against Superior next weekend so I can't see any reason Stewart can't start and pitch as many innings as necessary this weekend against Point. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 26, 2012, 09:57:13 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 26, 2012, 09:44:01 AM
The WIAC tournament isn't until May 11th.  In addition to Point this weekend the WARHAWKS have a pair of double hitters against Superior next weekend so I can't see any reason Stewart can't start and pitch as many innings as necessary this weekend against Point.

I think he was referecing NOT showing Stewart's arsenal to Point until the WIAC tourney. I don't think he was insinuating that he should be rested prior to the WIAC tourney.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 26, 2012, 11:21:47 AM
You hit it on the head.  I would say the same thing about Seidl but Point is still in reach of being co-champs and locking up a regional bid if they finish season 6-2 or 7-1.  Point's all in whereas Whitewater just needs to lock a WIAC tourney bid and do whatever it takes to win conference tourney.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 26, 2012, 12:01:19 PM
Ok, that makes more sense.  However I think that Stewart will pitch in the Point series.  While I do think that we will be one of the four teams to participate in the conference tournament our current position is somewhat tenuous and we are not playing particularly well at this point. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 28, 2012, 10:57:09 AM
The WARHAWKS/Pointers games scheduled today have been canceled and rescheduled for Monday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 28, 2012, 01:55:57 PM
La Crosse leads Superior 6-1 at the end of eight innings...  (Verthein throwing well for the Eagles)

Platteville leads Oshkosh 7-1 at the end of three innings...  (Pioneers bat around in the 3rd inning and score seven runs off of Westphal)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 28, 2012, 04:16:19 PM
Platteville puts a hurting on Oshkosh, knocking off the Titans 11-1 in 7-innings....

La Crosse wins opener at Superior 6-1...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 28, 2012, 05:14:51 PM
La Crosse leads Superior 4-2 in the Top of the 6th inning...

Oshkosh and Platteville scoreless after three innings in Platteville...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 28, 2012, 06:20:28 PM
La Crosse does it again, as they score a run in the 8th inning and another in the 9th inning to knock off Superior 6-5 in the nightcap of their DH today at Superior.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 28, 2012, 06:41:22 PM
Oshkosh scores a pair of runs in the Top of the 7th inning to take a 2-1 lead....

Platteville responds with four runs in the bottom half of the 7th inning, to regain the lead 5-2...  The four runs were scored without getting a hit, thanks to five walks and a hit batter.

EDIT:Platteville extends their lead in the 8th inning and knocks off the Titans again, 8-2...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 28, 2012, 07:12:50 PM
WIAC Standings (Through April 28th)
La Crosse 16-2
Stevens Point 12-4
Whitewater 9-7
Superior 8-10
Oshkosh 9-13
Stout 6-14
Platteville 4-14

Platteville equals their season total with a pair of WIAC wins over Oshkosh today...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2012, 11:29:56 AM
If Superior could win one game today, it would go a LONG way in helping them win the tiebreaker with Oshkosh for the #4 spot in the WIAC Tournament, as UWO dropped all four games to La Crosse.

Oshkosh is practically in a "must-win" situation today, having to beat Platteville twice to put the pressure on Superior to go 3-3 in their final six games.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brian Carroll on April 29, 2012, 03:25:56 PM
Eagles win at Superior 8-1 in first game of twin bill.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2012, 05:21:34 PM
Platteville with a walk-off winner in the 9th inning against Oshkosh to take Game #1 10-9....

Platteville leads Oshkosh after three innings of Game #2 6-4...

La Crosse leads 10-0 in the sixth inning of Game #2...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 29, 2012, 06:51:42 PM
After Point crushes the WARHAWKS 13-0 in game one the WARHAWKS come back to get a split winning game two 6-4. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2012, 07:14:05 PM
WIAC Standings (Through April 29th)
La Crosse 18-2
Stevens Point 13-5
Whitewater 10-8
Oshkosh 10-14
Superior 8-12
Stout 6-14
Platteville 5-15

Oshkosh scores two runs in the Top of the 8th inning to take a 10-8 lead, and Troy Mrvicka holds the Pioneers scoreless in the bottom half for the win.  The game was called after eight innings by the umpires due to rain.  (BTW-If Platteville would have had live stats this weekend, it would have been nice.  It was hard to listen to the radio, especially Game #2 on Saturday and Game #2 Sunday.  Wild pitches do not cause runs to be unearned.)

Superior needs to win three out of four against Whitewater next weekend to secure the #4 spot in the WIAC Tournament.  If they win two games, they would lose out to Oshkosh via the tiebreaker, as Oshkosh beat Stevens Point one time, while the Yellow Jackets went 0-4.  (Both teams went 0-4 against La Crosse.)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 30, 2012, 05:03:42 PM
In  a game in which the two teams combined for 32 hits and the lead changed five times the WARHAWKS scored 8 runs over their last three at bats and defeated the Pointers 15-9 in game one of today's doublehitter.  Marty Herum had 7 RBIs for the WARHAWKS.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 30, 2012, 06:19:34 PM
BW-
What happened to DH Samuel Keller?  Noticed recently that he hasn't played since early in the season.  Safe to say he sustained an injury?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on April 30, 2012, 06:44:48 PM
So I guess that makes it official then - the tournament is headed to La Crosse. Does anyone here know when the last time that happened was, if ever?   A proud LAX backer here who has immensely enjoyed the ride so far and thinks it can keep going well into May.
A word to the wise - that's graduation week and some hotels are starting to fill up for the weekend. One or both final teams & their fans might be scrambling Saturday night.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 30, 2012, 07:21:02 PM
Quote from: Babe Truth on April 30, 2012, 06:44:48 PM
So I guess that makes it official then - the tournament is headed to La Crosse. Does anyone here know when the last time that happened was, if ever?    A proud LAX backer here who has immensely enjoyed the ride so far and thinks it can keep going well into May.
A word to the wise - that's graduation week and some hotels are starting to fill up for the weekend. One or both final teams & their fans might be scrambling Saturday night.
Since the WIAC started the Conference Tournament to determine the Pool A bid, the tournament has been held in Whitewater, Stevens Point, Wisconsin Rapids, and Oshkosh.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 30, 2012, 07:36:59 PM
WIAC Standings (Through April 30th)
La Crosse 18-2
Stevens Point 13-7
Whitewater 12-8
Oshkosh 10-14
Superior 8-12
Stout 6-14
Platteville 5-15

After scoring 13 runs in a Game #1 rout of Whitewater on Sunday, Stevens Point is held to just 13 runs over the next three games as the Warhawks take three out of four games.

What we know for sure:
-La Crosse will host the WIAC Tournament regardless of what they do this weekend, as they have clinched the #1 seed.  Congrats Eagles!!!

-Whitewater and Point will square off in the other opening round game, as they will finish as the #2 and #3 seeds. It's just a matter of who gets the #2 seed and is considered the "home" team.

-Superior needs to win three of four from Whitewater to earn the #4 seed.  Two wins or less and Oshkosh will be the #4 seed and face La Crosse.

-Stout and Platteville are eliminated from qualifying for the WIAC Tournament.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 30, 2012, 08:06:10 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 30, 2012, 06:19:34 PM
BW-
What happened to DH Samuel Keller?  Noticed recently that he hasn't played since early in the season.  Safe to say he sustained an injury?

Yes your assumption is spot on.  He'll apply for a medical redshirt. 

Marty Herum goes 5 for 9 with a pair of doubles and 8 RBI on the day.  Eric Schmitz finishes the final two innings of game one without allowing a hit or run with a pair of Ks.  He starts game two pitching 6.2 scoreless innings allowing 4 hits and striking out 7.  Two of three runs scored by the WARHAWKS were lead off batters who got on base after being hit by a pitch. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brian Carroll on April 30, 2012, 08:09:56 PM
Great job, Eagles.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on April 30, 2012, 08:39:35 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 30, 2012, 07:36:59 PM
-Whitewater and Point will square off in the other opening round game, as they will finish as the #2 and #3 seeds. It's just a matter of who gets the #2 seed and is considered the "home" team.

-Superior needs to win three of four from Whitewater to earn the #4 seed.  Two wins or less and Oshkosh will be the #4 seed and face La Crosse.


I suppose Superior could sweep Whitewater to climb to the #3 seed, but after the weekend and today's games that doesn't look likely at all.  Those were two impressive wins for the Warhawks.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 30, 2012, 08:55:08 PM
Quote from: Babe Truth on April 30, 2012, 08:39:35 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 30, 2012, 07:36:59 PM
-Whitewater and Point will square off in the other opening round game, as they will finish as the #2 and #3 seeds. It's just a matter of who gets the #2 seed and is considered the "home" team.

-Superior needs to win three of four from Whitewater to earn the #4 seed.  Two wins or less and Oshkosh will be the #4 seed and face La Crosse.
I suppose Superior could sweep Whitewater to climb to the #3 seed, but after the weekend and today's games that doesn't look likely at all.  Those were two impressive wins for the Warhawks.
True...  I guess I would be surprised to see Superior win three games, muchless all four.  As this year has shown us though "Anything is Possible!!!!"
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 30, 2012, 09:06:40 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 30, 2012, 08:06:10 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 30, 2012, 06:19:34 PM
BW-
What happened to DH Samuel Keller?  Noticed recently that he hasn't played since early in the season.  Safe to say he sustained an injury?

Yes your assumption is spot on.  He'll apply for a medical redshirt. 
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe former UWO firstbaseman Brad Demmin played in 16 games his final year and was denied a Medical Hardship.  Keller has played in 15 games this season.  I wonder if one game will be the difference between getting it and being denied?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 30, 2012, 09:30:46 PM
Our stat sheet has Keller playing in 12 games.

Keller, Samuel Jr.      .463     12-10  (BA, GP-GS)

I thought the rule was that they could play in up to 30% of the team's games but none of them could be beyond the midway point of the season.  Our season is 41 games.  30% would be 12 games.  He last played in the 15th game of the season so that's before the midway point.  Based on this it would appear that he would be eligible to apply.  Of course that doesn't mean it would be granted.

My understanding of the rule could be incorrect so maybe Pat or someone else could clarify it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 30, 2012, 09:56:37 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 30, 2012, 09:30:46 PM
Our stat sheet has Keller playing in 12 games.

Keller, Samuel Jr.      .463     12-10  (BA, GP-GS)

I thought the rule was that they could play in up to 30% of the team's games but none of them could be beyond the midway point of the season.  Our season is 41 games.  30% would be 12 games.  He last played in the 15th game of the season so that's before the midway point.  Based on this it would appear that he would be eligible to apply.  Of course that doesn't mean it would be granted.

My understanding of the rule could be incorrect so maybe Pat or someone else could clarify it.
Good catch BW!!!  I didn't look at his games played, just Whitewater's record in the last game he had played in.  I just assumed with how well his season was going he had played in every game to that point.  (Prime example of why one shouldn't assume!!!)

BTW-I hope Whitewater isn't playing 41 games....  I believe the NCAA has a 40 game regular season limit.  I would assume that game with Concordia next week would just be a single game even though both websites have it listed as a DH.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on May 01, 2012, 11:15:57 AM
Playing a bit of devil's advocate here, but bear with it for the sake of conversation. If you are Whitewater, you're probably acknowledging that your chances of a Pool C bid are gone (maybe, maybe not??). You're only hope at making a regional tournament is to win the WIAC Tournament. Would you rather see an Oshkosh or a Superior team in that tournament?  Because.... you have the power to choose who it is.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 01, 2012, 12:51:03 PM
I think I would want to see this week's Regional Rankings before I make that decision....

Regardless, I'm not sure I want to go into the WIAC Tounrnament on a "losing" note and try to "flip the switch" back on to win the tournament and qualify for Regionals.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on May 01, 2012, 01:33:51 PM
That's an interesting conspiracy theory biggio34.  Except can you even imagine a team coming together to lose a 4 game series on purpose?  And while UWO is definitely better than their record with a lot of tough, close losses, 5 out of the last 6 is not good.  I don't think they exactly scare anyone right now.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 01, 2012, 01:47:59 PM
Quote from: Babe Truth on May 01, 2012, 01:33:51 PM
That's an interesting conspiracy theory biggio34.  Except can you even imagine a team coming together to lose a 4 game series on purpose?  And while UWO is definitely better than their record with a lot of tough, close losses, 5 out of the last 6 is not good.  I don't think they exactly scare anyone right now.
Ain't that the truth....

10 one run losses (compared to just four wins.) That's what seperates the good from the bad teams though, being able to win the close games.  Just look at La Crosse, they are 9-1 in games decided by a single run.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on May 01, 2012, 03:08:52 PM
More truth there.  I'd say LAX is battle tested and playing with a lot of confidence that someone will come up with the clutch RBI when needed.  I'd also give a lot of credit to the pitching staff late in games, including relievers Lauersdorf, who's been steady all year, and Debilzen who's given up just one hit in his last 10 innings.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 01, 2012, 04:26:02 PM
We'll be playing to win all four games in Superior. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BDB on May 03, 2012, 11:42:45 AM
Maybe I am over thinking this, but for my 7th grader what should I look for in sunglasses for playing baseball?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 03, 2012, 12:09:35 PM
Quote from: BlueDevil Bob on May 03, 2012, 11:42:45 AM
Maybe I am over thinking this, but for my 7th grader what should I look for in sunglasses for playing baseball?
You are over thinking this. Buy $7.99 sunglasses from Walgreens because he'll likely break them.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIACLUV on May 03, 2012, 12:27:49 PM
Find the old school Easton Flip downs, Classy!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 03, 2012, 02:32:04 PM
Quote from: BlueDevil Bob on May 03, 2012, 11:42:45 AM
Maybe I am over thinking this, but for my 7th grader what should I look for in sunglasses for playing baseball?
He must look stylish and "cool".  (Just what are the terms that 13 year-olds use for the same concepts that we considered 40-50 years ago.)

He needs to see how the sunglasses look on top of the head.

Do the glasses flip up on a smooth manner?  (Forty to sixty years ago the word would be "debonair" or "suave".)

Does he look good and attractive to other 13-14 year old girls... when he flips up the lenses when he doesn't need them?
Or ...when he flips them down to glance at the girls as they walk past him so he can look at them without everyone else being able to tell that he is watching them?

Does he want a mirrored surface?

Does he want a fancy name tag on the model of the sunglasses like Oakley, kinda like we used to buy "Ray-Ban?

I don't think that you are overthinking this one.  Your 7th grader just may not be aware of all of the considerations that he will employ in such a purchase 5 years from now.   ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 03, 2012, 03:25:42 PM
A mirror surface is a bad idea if he wants to check out the 13-14 year old girls.  They won't be able to see his eyes but they'll know exactly what he's looking at.  Best to forget the mirror surface. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BDB on May 03, 2012, 03:33:24 PM
Ok, well you guys are all talking girls etc., which I am all for of course.  ;)

I was actually thinking I was going to hear something about UV protection levels or other lens considerations for eye protection.

But, apparently I was just over thinking it.  8-)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 8404DOC on May 04, 2012, 02:41:29 PM
Any word on the WW Superior game?  Can't view video from work and no live stats>>>
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 04, 2012, 03:28:35 PM
Quote from: 8404DOC on May 04, 2012, 02:41:29 PM
Any word on the WW Superior game?  Can't view video from work and no live stats>>>

Fro UW-Superior's twitter feed...

https://twitter.com/#!/uwsathletics/status/198493545752051713

UWS leads 7-6 in the bottom of the 5th.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 04, 2012, 04:28:35 PM
Platteville extends Stevens Point's losing streak to three, with a 1-0 victory in Game #1.  Bill Oppreicht with the CG victory as he works around six hits and five walks.  The Pointers made a pair of outs on the bases in the late innings which proved costly.

Point's grip on a Pool C bid may be slipping away....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 04, 2012, 04:43:07 PM
https://twitter.com/#!/uwsathletics/status/198512284807602177

@UWSathletics: Yellowjackets score 3 in the bottom of the 8th to tie @UWWAthletics 11-11 after 8 innings.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 04, 2012, 05:43:14 PM
Whitewater wins 12-11 in 11 innings....

Superior must beat Whitewater three straight times to qualify for the WIAC Tournament.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 04, 2012, 07:53:10 PM
It was a great day to be a Pioneer as they swept the Pointers.  I'm speechless at this point.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 04, 2012, 09:21:53 PM
The WIAC Tournament field is set, as Whitewater sweeps Superior, which allows Oshkosh to clinch the #4 spot...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 04, 2012, 10:21:13 PM
Coulda woulda shoulda but I have to ask how good would Point have been this year with Polcyn at 3rd and Eric Van Beck returning?  Just throwing it out there.  My personal opinion is 6-7 less losses.  Point has been shuffling all year and can't get a set DH in the lineup and basically are getting no production out of their 3B.  Although Van Beck wasn't the greatest let's not forget he was there #4 in rotation a few years back against very good competition.  I think the WIAC is the weakest it's been in over 10 years this year.  I do think La Crosse is for real though.  Lauersdorf really puts them over the top coming on in relief he's been solid all year.  And just for fun what are some thoughts about if La Crosse had Mitch Running?  Would they be a legit threat to win it all?  How about Oshkosh with Schreiber and Berger?  One would have to think some of those 1 run losses would've been wins.  It's really too bad when you think about it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 05, 2012, 12:01:42 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 04, 2012, 10:21:13 PM
How about Oshkosh with Schreiber and Berger?  One would have to think some of those 1 run losses would've been wins.  It's really too bad when you think about it.
And Jirschele (Point) and Sebesta (Winona State)..........
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 05, 2012, 07:52:23 AM
Cubs, I think you Eichstadt would've been playing this year also.  For Point Jack Archie would've been a JR or SR this year too.  Someone said he's pitching D1 at Cal State Fullerton.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 05, 2012, 03:25:27 PM
"Someone" is mistaken. Archie is at Point Luma Nazarene University

WARHAWKS take game one 15 or 16-1 in seven.  Michael Huckaby gets the win.
Point squeaks by Platteville 5-4.  Game ends with Platteville runners on second and third.
LaCrosse beats Stout 10-6.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 05, 2012, 07:27:19 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 05, 2012, 03:25:27 PM
WARHAWKS take game one 15 or 16-1 in seven. 

Not that it really matters in the grand scheme of things, but it's being shown as 18-1 in seven (just to get it correct)!  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 05, 2012, 08:25:57 PM
Here are my predictions for WIAC tourney and rest of year.  Game 1  Oshkosh upsets La Crosse behind stellar pitching performance by Luke Westphal.  Game 2  Point upsets Whitewater Seidl will come up huge.  Game 3  Whitewater over La Crosse-  I just don't feel like La Crosse has much to play for.  They dominated the regular season and are in as #2 seed regardless.  Game 4  Point over Oshkosh(10 run rule).  Game 5  Whitewater over Oshkosh.  Championship  Point over Whitewater.  Point and La Crosse advance to regionals with La Crosse being #2 and Point getting #5.  St. Thomas takes the regional behind dominant pitching from Maher and Kapinski and take 2nd in World Series.  Point goes 1-2 in regionals.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 05, 2012, 08:35:16 PM
Quote from: BoBo on May 05, 2012, 07:27:19 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 05, 2012, 03:25:27 PM
WARHAWKS take game one 15 or 16-1 in seven. 

Not that it really matters in the grand scheme of things, but it's being shown as 18-1 in seven (just to get it correct)!  ;)

15, 16, 18 whatever.  ;)

WARHAWKS take game two 8-2.  Colin Grove gets the start and the win.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on May 05, 2012, 09:35:47 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 05, 2012, 08:25:57 PM
Here are my predictions for WIAC tourney and rest of year.  Game 1  Oshkosh upsets La Crosse behind stellar pitching performance by Luke Westphal.  Game 2  Point upsets Whitewater Seidl will come up huge.  Game 3  Whitewater over La Crosse-  I just don't feel like La Crosse has much to play for.  They dominated the regular season and are in as #2 seed regardless.  Game 4  Point over Oshkosh(10 run rule).  Game 5  Whitewater over Oshkosh.  Championship  Point over Whitewater.  Point and La Crosse advance to regionals with La Crosse being #2 and Point getting #5.  St. Thomas takes the regional behind dominant pitching from Maher and Kapinski and take 2nd in World Series.  Point goes 1-2 in regionals.

With all due respect ShineTime, that sounds like a prediction made in February -- and exactly why La Crosse has a whole lot to play for. A little more respect would go a long way to erasing this apparent misperception that they still don't belong. They just tied the record for most WIAC wins in a season and stand a good chance of breaking it tomorrow. In league games they're 12-0 at home and 10-2 against the field. Would you make a similar prediction if one of the other "Big 4" was in the same position?  And you're saying they'll lose to a pitcher who has had a great run, but whose last WIAC start, against an offensively challenged 6-25 team, produced a line of 6 ip/13h/11r/6er. Sorry, I just don't get it.  I'll take the depth and consistency UWL has shown all season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 05, 2012, 09:46:20 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 05, 2012, 08:35:16 PM
Quote from: BoBo on May 05, 2012, 07:27:19 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 05, 2012, 03:25:27 PM
WARHAWKS take game one 15 or 16-1 in seven. 

Not that it really matters in the grand scheme of things, but it's being shown as 18-1 in seven (just to get it correct)!  ;)

15, 16, 18 whatever.  ;)

WARHAWKS take game two 8-2.  Colin Grove gets the start and the win.

bw, with game 2 going the full 9, how did Colin Grove get the win - starting and pitching only 4.0 innings?  Again, it really doesn't matter, but isn't 5 innings required for a starting pitcher to earn a win?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 05, 2012, 11:02:51 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 05, 2012, 08:25:57 PM
Here are my predictions for WIAC tourney and rest of year.  Game 1  Oshkosh upsets La Crosse behind stellar pitching performance by Luke Westphal.  Game 2  Point upsets Whitewater Seidl will come up huge.  Game 3  Whitewater over La Crosse-  I just don't feel like La Crosse has much to play for.  They dominated the regular season and are in as #2 seed regardless.  Game 4  Point over Oshkosh(10 run rule).  Game 5  Whitewater over Oshkosh.  Championship  Point over Whitewater.  Point and La Crosse advance to regionals with La Crosse being #2 and Point getting #5.  St. Thomas takes the regional behind dominant pitching from Maher and Kapinski and take 2nd in World Series.  Point goes 1-2 in regionals.
In my opinoin, the WIAC Tournment is as wide open as I can ever remember.  The only reason I say that is because of how close the games were all season among the four teams.

La Crosse-10-2, with six wins by one run, three wins by two runs and the last win by three runs.
Whitewater-5-7, with six of the seven losses by three runs or less.
Stevesn Point-6-6, with seven of the twelve games decided by three runs or less.
Oshkosh-3-9, with nine of the twelve games decided by three runs or less.

La Crosse is the odds on favorite with how they played the regular season, and having home-field advantage, while Oshkosh is the under-dog having a losing record. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 06, 2012, 09:24:23 AM
Cubs I like your breakdown but you have 25 wins and 23 losses in the games among the 4 tourney teams. Do you have time to check the math?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on May 06, 2012, 10:38:21 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 06, 2012, 09:24:23 AM
Cubs I like your breakdown but you have 25 wins and 23 losses in the games among the 4 tourney teams. Do you have time to check the math?

Correct Stevens Point record is 6-6, not 7-5 (2-2, 3-1, 1-3). 
Otherwise Cubs, I agree completely.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 06, 2012, 10:39:17 AM
Quote from: BoBo on May 05, 2012, 09:46:20 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 05, 2012, 08:35:16 PM
Quote from: BoBo on May 05, 2012, 07:27:19 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 05, 2012, 03:25:27 PM
WARHAWKS take game one 15 or 16-1 in seven. 

Not that it really matters in the grand scheme of things, but it's being shown as 18-1 in seven (just to get it correct)!  ;)

15, 16, 18 whatever.  ;)

WARHAWKS take game two 8-2.  Colin Grove gets the start and the win.

bw, with game 2 going the full 9, how did Colin Grove get the win - starting and pitching only 4.0 innings?  Again, it really doesn't matter, but isn't 5 innings required for a starting pitcher to earn a win?

I thought so too.  However he is listed as the winning pitcher in the box score that is on our website.

"Colin Grove (Beloit/Beloit Memorial) got the start, went four innings, gave up two runs and got the win, his first of the season."

Unfortunately I couldn't get the video broadcast to work so I wasn't able to watch the game myself and there were no live stats.   All of the information I was getting was second hand from a parent who graciously allowed me to pester him with phone calls.  Though it wasn't always entirely accurate it was much better than nothing. 

Stewart threw well in relief.  4.2 innings facing one over the minimum 14 batters (1 walk) and striking out 7 of them.  He needed a good outing going into the post season.  Herum had a good weekend hitting 11/21, 7 runs, 11 rbi and 4 doubles.



Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 06, 2012, 11:09:37 AM
My apologies guys!!!!  :-[ Thanks for catching my mistake!!!

I edited the original post with the correct record for Stevens Point.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on May 06, 2012, 12:07:18 PM
You can close the book on the regular season. The heavy day & night rain in Menomonie has forced the cancellation of the final game between La Crosse & Stout, denying the Eagles a chance to break the league mark for wins in a season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 06, 2012, 12:19:13 PM
Is there parking by the LaCrosse baseball complex or can you park on East Ave?  The directions on the website say you should park in Lot 2 in front of the football stadium which looks like a fairly long walk over to baseball. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on May 06, 2012, 01:46:29 PM
Yes there is a lot alongside the field that has a capacity of about 100 vehicles.  The warning signs are mostly ignored on weekends, and since classes will be over with for the semester Friday should be no problem. East Ave. does have parking on one side, and the short street that leads from East Ave. to the field has parking on both sides.
This Google map might help, you'll want to zoom in and slide it down to reveal the North Campus field:
http://tinyurl.com/dym8o3v
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 06, 2012, 05:23:33 PM
Thanks
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 07, 2012, 02:18:09 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 06, 2012, 10:39:17 AM
Quote from: BoBo on May 05, 2012, 09:46:20 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 05, 2012, 08:35:16 PM
Quote from: BoBo on May 05, 2012, 07:27:19 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 05, 2012, 03:25:27 PM
WARHAWKS take game one 15 or 16-1 in seven. 

Not that it really matters in the grand scheme of things, but it's being shown as 18-1 in seven (just to get it correct)!  ;)

15, 16, 18 whatever.  ;)

WARHAWKS take game two 8-2.  Colin Grove gets the start and the win.

bw, with game 2 going the full 9, how did Colin Grove get the win - starting and pitching only 4.0 innings?  Again, it really doesn't matter, but isn't 5 innings required for a starting pitcher to earn a win?

I thought so too.  However he is listed as the winning pitcher in the box score that is on our website.

"Colin Grove (Beloit/Beloit Memorial) got the start, went four innings, gave up two runs and got the win, his first of the season."

Unfortunately I couldn't get the video broadcast to work so I wasn't able to watch the game myself and there were no live stats.   All of the information I was getting was second hand from a parent who graciously allowed me to pester him with phone calls.  Though it wasn't always entirely accurate it was much better than nothing. 

Stewart threw well in relief.  4.2 innings facing one over the minimum 14 batters (1 walk) and striking out 7 of them.  He needed a good outing going into the post season.  Herum had a good weekend hitting 11/21, 7 runs, 11 rbi and 4 doubles.
There is a "rule" set that if it is pre-determined that three or more pitchers will be throwing in the game, the scorekeeper has discretion as to who to give the "W" to.

The above situation doesn't seem to fit that "rule" although it is interesting that Larsen came on to pitch in the ninth inning with two outs and nobody on base and record the final out.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 07, 2012, 02:37:06 PM
So now that WIAC regualr season play has concluded, what are everyone's thoughts on All Conference and the Pitcher/Position Player of the Year awards?

I think the Pitcher of the Award is a two horse race between Kevin Kohnson of La Crosse and Cam Seidl of Stevens Point.  They both have ERA's under 1.00 during WIAC play (the only two pitchers who can make that claim) while only one other pitcher has an ERA under 3.33 in conference play (Eric Schmitz of Whitewater-2.37.)

If I got to vote, I would go with Seidl...

Position Player of the Year might end up being a race between Whitewater teammates Jared Fon and Marty Herum.  They were the only two hitters to finish WIAC play with batting averages over .400 (.423 and .411 respectively.)  Herum lead the WIAC in total bases (by one over Fon) and RBI's (by 14 over next closest hitter) while Fon led the league in hits (by one.)

If I got to vote, I would go with Herum....

One thing I want to make clear, I am NOT trying to disrespect La Crosse.  One would think that a team that wins the Regular Season Championship by six games would have a Player of the Year candidate.  I just think that La Crosse was the best TEAM, while a couple of other players put up better INDIVIDUAL numbers...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on May 07, 2012, 06:23:58 PM
It would be hard to argue with your reasoning or your picks.  And I'm sure no one would suggest you're dissing La Crosse.  On the other hand, if the All Conference selections don't recognize their team's accomplishments with at least 5 or 6 players chosen, something would definitely be wrong. Last year SP had 7 players taking 8 spots in that group.

Here's a question - are only league games allowed to be factored in, and not non-conference stats?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 07, 2012, 06:44:10 PM
Quote from: Babe Truth on May 07, 2012, 06:23:58 PM
It would be hard to argue with your reasoning or your picks.  And I'm sure no one would suggest you're dissing La Crosse.  On the other hand, if the All Conference selections don't recognize their team's accomplishments with at least 5 or 6 players chosen, something would definitely be wrong. Last year SP had 7 players taking 8 spots in that group.

Here's a question - are only league games allowed to be factored in, and not non-conference stats?
Only WIAC games, which is why I made the picks I did....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 07, 2012, 07:19:13 PM
Back from the Dead (http://www.jsonline.com/sports/statecolleges/back-from-the-dead-uwla-crosse-now-champs-pg58mff-150377045.html) to champs.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 07, 2012, 10:23:20 PM
For Point I'm guessing Schilter, Jirschele, Seidl, and Gerber are all locks for first team.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on May 07, 2012, 10:45:17 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 07, 2012, 06:44:10 PM
Quote from: Babe Truth on May 07, 2012, 06:23:58 PM
Here's a question - are only league games allowed to be factored in, and not non-conference stats?
Only WIAC games, which is why I made the picks I did....
I suppose that levels the playing field a bit, but isn't that sort of like if MLB did not include interleague stats, or the NFL not counting NFC-AFC game stats?

But if the WIAC really was interested in a level playing field . . .
I realize the post season has no bearing on all-conference selection. And I realize there is a Conference-Only stat page as almost an afterthought at the end of the listings. But what really makes no sense at all is how team and player post-season numbers keep accumulating in the WIAC season stats until no team is left standing. That totally skews any season stat that isn't an average - hits, runs, rbi's, HRs, K's, you name it - in favor of the teams that are able to keep playing. The league's resulting final lists of category leaders become pretty meaningless. Last year Whitewater earned 10 additional games - 25% more - to add to their numbers.  It just doesn't seem right for those players who lead the league after 24/40 games, only to see their mark eclipsed 5 games later, or for those stat hounds who like to look back now and then to compare teams or players.
Can anyone here offer a reasonable explanation?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 07, 2012, 11:23:08 PM
I think the only guys from Oshkosh you will see are Polcyn and Van Abel making the First Team.  Westphal may get an Honorable Mention selection as his numbers aren't terrible, other than his W/L record.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2012, 10:19:02 AM
Quote from: Babe Truth on May 07, 2012, 10:45:17 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 07, 2012, 06:44:10 PM
Quote from: Babe Truth on May 07, 2012, 06:23:58 PM
Here's a question - are only league games allowed to be factored in, and not non-conference stats?
Only WIAC games, which is why I made the picks I did....
I suppose that levels the playing field a bit, but isn't that sort of like if MLB did not include interleague stats, or the NFL not counting NFC-AFC game stats?

But if the WIAC really was interested in a level playing field . . .
I realize the post season has no bearing on all-conference selection. And I realize there is a Conference-Only stat page as almost an afterthought at the end of the listings. But what really makes no sense at all is how team and player post-season numbers keep accumulating in the WIAC season stats until no team is left standing. That totally skews any season stat that isn't an average - hits, runs, rbi's, HRs, K's, you name it - in favor of the teams that are able to keep playing. The league's resulting final lists of category leaders become pretty meaningless. Last year Whitewater earned 10 additional games - 25% more - to add to their numbers.  It just doesn't seem right for those players who lead the league after 24/40 games, only to see their mark eclipsed 5 games later, or for those stat hounds who like to look back now and then to compare teams or players.
Can anyone here offer a reasonable explanation?


Because they are "season" stats and a "season" lasts as long as a team is still playing.  Should a player be penalized and his production discounted because his team extends their season beyond that of another team? 

WHITEWATER selections....Herum, Fon, Schmitz.   Possible Beyer, Friend and Stewart.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on May 08, 2012, 12:03:48 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2012, 10:19:02 AM
Quote from: Babe Truth on May 07, 2012, 10:45:17 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 07, 2012, 06:44:10 PM
Quote from: Babe Truth on May 07, 2012, 06:23:58 PM
Here's a question - are only league games allowed to be factored in, and not non-conference stats?
Only WIAC games, which is why I made the picks I did....
. . . Can anyone here offer a reasonable explanation?

Because they are "season" stats and a "season" lasts as long as a team is still playing.  Should a player be penalized and his production discounted because his team extends their season beyond that of another team? 


Well, I'd think most people would view the extra games' results as post-season stats.  Take last year's home run leaders in the NL: Kemp 39 - Fielder 38 - Pujols 37.  Using WIAC logic, after the final WS pitch was thrown it would have looked like this: Pujols 42 - Fielder 41 - Kemp 39.  It seems to me Kemp with his near-miss of the Triple Crown would be the one penalized in the annals of MLB.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 08, 2012, 12:15:08 PM
It's not just the WIAC and it's not just baseball. The NCAA sets the statistics guidelines for all sports and that's how they're counted. UW-Whitewater's football team certainly benefits statistically from playing five playoff games a year for the last seven years. In college sports, your season is all your games whether you make the postseason or not.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2012, 01:06:23 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 30, 2012, 09:56:37 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 30, 2012, 09:30:46 PM
I thought the rule was that they could play in up to 30% of the team's games but none of them could be beyond the midway point of the season.  Our season is 41 games.
BTW-I hope Whitewater isn't playing 41 games....  I believe the NCAA has a 40 game regular season limit.  I would assume that game with Concordia next week would just be a single game even though both websites have it listed as a DH.
I see both Concordia and Whitewater have today's game listed as a single game at 3:00 on the schedule. 

Originally an oversight by someone?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on May 08, 2012, 01:18:57 PM
UWL:  Fanta 1B, Braga OF, Cefalu OF, Johnson P, Lauersdorf P, Verthein P,  on bubble: Harazin C
UWW: Fon 3B, Herum 1B, Leavitt DH, Schmitz P,   bubble: Friend OF
UWSP: Schilter C, Jirschele 2B, Gerber 1B, Clark OF, Seidl SP,    bubble: Douglas SS
UWO: Polcyn SS, Van Abel 2B,   bubble: Westphal P
UWSup: Soderquist OF,   bubble:  Branum P
UWP:     Oppriecht P,  bubble: Theis P
UWSto:  Gangestad SS    bubble:  Shoch OF

Position Player of Year:  Herum
Pitcher of Year: Seidl
Coach of Year: Schwarz, UWL
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 08, 2012, 03:28:58 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 08, 2012, 01:06:23 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 30, 2012, 09:56:37 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 30, 2012, 09:30:46 PM
I thought the rule was that they could play in up to 30% of the team's games but none of them could be beyond the midway point of the season.  Our season is 41 games.
BTW-I hope Whitewater isn't playing 41 games....  I believe the NCAA has a 40 game regular season limit.  I would assume that game with Concordia next week would just be a single game even though both websites have it listed as a DH.
I see both Concordia and Whitewater have today's game listed as a single game at 3:00 on the schedule. 

Originally an oversight by someone?

No. It was changed from a DH to a single just yesterday. Sometimes teams might schedule 41 games on the assumption that both of them will lose a game to weather at some point. If that doesn't happen, then they just drop it down to a single game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2012, 05:04:19 PM
Taken from this week's Around the Nation:

The Mets recalled UW-La Crosse utility Vinny Rottino. This is Rottino's second stint in the majors in the last two years and fifth overall dating back to 2006. Through May 6 Rottino was 0-for-2 with both at-bats coming as a pinch hitter against the Diamondbacks.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2012, 06:42:10 PM
WARHAWKS beat Concordia-Wisconsin 11-8.  Lietner get the win in relief of Schmitz.  Each team used multiple pitchers. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2012, 09:41:14 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on May 08, 2012, 03:28:58 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 08, 2012, 01:06:23 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 30, 2012, 09:56:37 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 30, 2012, 09:30:46 PM
I thought the rule was that they could play in up to 30% of the team's games but none of them could be beyond the midway point of the season.  Our season is 41 games.
BTW-I hope Whitewater isn't playing 41 games....  I believe the NCAA has a 40 game regular season limit.  I would assume that game with Concordia next week would just be a single game even though both websites have it listed as a DH.
I see both Concordia and Whitewater have today's game listed as a single game at 3:00 on the schedule. 

Originally an oversight by someone?

No. It was changed from a DH to a single just yesterday. Sometimes teams might schedule 41 games on the assumption that both of them will lose a game to weather at some point. If that doesn't happen, then they just drop it down to a single game.
Ahh...  That makes sense.  Teams always seem to lose a game or two on their spring trip, so it's a good idea to have a back-up plan.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on May 09, 2012, 01:12:57 AM
Quote from: Babe Truth on May 06, 2012, 01:46:29 PM
Yes there is a lot alongside the field that has a capacity of about 100 vehicles.  The warning signs are mostly ignored on weekends, and since classes will be over with for the semester Friday should be no problem. East Ave. does have parking on one side, and the short street that leads from East Ave. to the field has parking on both sides.
This Google map might help, you'll want to zoom in and slide it down to reveal the North Campus field:
http://tinyurl.com/dym8o3v

Here's an update on the tournament parking situation. It looks like the adjoining lot will not be available to the public, while there should still be the usual limited amount of nearby street parking.
The official policy will be:
Parking for all spectators will be held on the main campus in several of the main lots.  There will be a shuttle bus that runs continuously for them to get to the field.

I'd guess the most likely lots in use would be the ones on East Ave in front of the football stadium and across the street, about half a mile from the field.  I suppose I've probably walked that far at Miller Park.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on May 09, 2012, 01:08:51 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2012, 05:04:19 PM
Taken from this week's Around the Nation:

The Mets recalled UW-La Crosse utility Vinny Rottino. This is Rottino's second stint in the majors in the last two years and fifth overall dating back to 2006. Through May 6 Rottino was 0-for-2 with both at-bats coming as a pinch hitter against the Diamondbacks.

Thanks for passing that along. Another sign that this is UWL's year?  What could be next - Jerry Augustine coming out of retirement with the Brewers?  Bill Schroeder rejoining the Packers?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2012, 08:56:12 PM
Is it Friday morning yet? 

Like a kid waiting for Christmas morning, I just want the games to get started!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on May 09, 2012, 10:36:51 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 09, 2012, 08:56:12 PM
Is it Friday morning yet? 

Like a kid waiting for Christmas morning, I just want the games to get started!!!

Going into it, I this is the most interesting WIAC tourney in years.  Can't wait to see how it shakes out.

I will take a stab at it...

Game 1: Point over WW
Game 2:  Osh over LAX
Game 3: WW over LAX
Game 4: Point over Osh
Game 5: WW over Osh
Game 6: WW over Point
Game 7: WW over Point

WW gets A bid, LAX gets C bid.  Point remains on bubble for C but misses out by a hair.  Everyone loses to St. Thomas at the regional.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on May 10, 2012, 01:04:09 AM
Yes it should be a very interesting weekend.
But while I was tempted to again mention February-like predictions, I've decided I must be clueless.  Why so much love here for 10-14 Oshkosh over 21-2 LAX, in their own 12-0 yard?  I mean, really, please explain that.  UWO is not at all a bad team, but still.

My own clueless attempt:

Game 1: UWL over UWO - another walk-off anyone? Gotta go with their depth, confidence & consistency
Game 2: SP over WW - Seidl throws another gem at them
Game 3: WW over UWO - too much firepower even with the wind blowing in
Game 4: UWL over SP - The game to see. Scray & Lauersdorf combine to keep Point a run or two short
Game 5: WW over SP - because they're the 2nd hottest team going, and that 3-1 series 2 weeks ago
Game 6: UWL over WW - Johnson's league-best 0.91 ERA makes the difference, along with the rested bullpen and a relaxed, balanced offense.


Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on May 10, 2012, 08:39:38 AM
Quote from: Babe Truth on May 10, 2012, 01:04:09 AM
Why so much love here for 10-14 Oshkosh over 21-2 LAX, in their own 12-0 yard?  I mean, really, please explain that.  UWO is not at all a bad team, but still.

I have no explanation.  All my picks are guesses that are based on nothing but a hunch, similar to my roulette strategy which rarely pays off.

Babe, do you really think LAX will save Johnson for the championship?  Why wouldn't they throw him in game 1 or 2?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on May 10, 2012, 10:13:09 AM
Kevin Johnson has been the #3 starter all season following Verthein and Scray, so I figure they'll keep the successful rotation in place. I suppose matchups and this season's results could possibly change things.  Verthein & Scray lost big to SP in that DH that was the season's low point but were effective against WW. KJ had good games against both.  Keep in mind Lauersdorf helped kick start the season turnaround that 2nd day in SP with a great outing to win the opener in relief -  5ip, 2h, 1er, 6K - so I could see him closing out Game 2 in my scenario.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on May 10, 2012, 10:24:45 AM
There has been a lot of rumor and speculation about the next step in the LAX baseball program's remarkable revival. This afternoon an official announcement is scheduled that can only be described as a Major Announcement. Huge.  All I can say is, if the bleachers did not get a badly needed new coat of paint this week, you will understand why.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 10, 2012, 10:51:06 AM
LaCrosse getting some love...

http://host.madison.com/sports/college/state-and-regional/college-baseball-uw-la-crosse-program-enjoying-grand-revival/article_0677b792-9a33-11e1-ac89-001a4bcf887a.html
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 10, 2012, 11:39:19 AM
Babe-
I don't think anyone is trying to "disrespect" La Crosse with their pick of Oshkosh in Game #1.  If I was to pick Oshkosh to beat La Crosse, my logic would be pretty simple.  They have a guy in Westphal who has only shown flashes of the pitcher he was last season when he was literally unbeatable.  If he just so happens to catch lightning in a bottle tomorrow morning, UWO would have a legitimate chance to upset the Eagles.  I think UWO is helped by the fact that Westphal didn't start against the Eagles in the four game series during the regular season.  (He pitched in relief in the 9-8 12 inning finale on three days rest.)   

Westphal is fully rested this time around which could be good or bad...  He hasn't pitched in nearly two weeks, so he should be strong, but will his command be there?  I guess we will find out in less than 24 hours.

BTW-If you held a gun to my head and made me predict a winner, I would likely pick La Crosse to knock off UWO in Game #1...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on May 10, 2012, 12:23:07 PM
I don't think it's intentional disrespect. Maybe more of an institutional memory or stubborn habit sort of thing - The "Big 3" rules! That's what I mean by February-like predictions.

Well, I think UWO fans might be wondering which Westphal will show up. Is he OK? He was not effective against LAX, maybe it was the 3 days rest. But I keep coming back to what I wrote here last week:
". . . a pitcher who has had a great run, but whose last WIAC start, against an offensively challenged 6-25 team, produced a line of 6 ip/13h/11r/6er."
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 10, 2012, 12:31:35 PM
All four of LaCrosse's wins over Oshkosh were one run affairs and it took extra innings in two of the four.  While that is a testament to LaCrosse's ability to win the close one it also suggests that Oshkosh competed and wasn't that far away from winning a couple themselves.  A hit or an error here or there could be the difference and the first time around things fell on the Eagles's side.  Certainly, regardless of the season records, the thought that something could go the Titans' way this time around isn't somewhere out in left field. 

Personally I think LaCrosse will win the first game with or without someone holding a gun to my head.  ;)  However I have to admit that I am actually more focused and concerned with the outcome of game two. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 10, 2012, 02:05:16 PM
Quote from: Babe Truth on May 10, 2012, 12:23:07 PM
He was not effective against LAX, maybe it was the 3 days rest.
He has struggled coming on in relief throughout his career.  I'm not sure why, but he seems to be one of those guys that needs to go through his regular "routine."  If I'm not mistaken, he actually threw pretty well against La Crosse after his first inning of relief where La Crosse tied the game.  Unfortunately, the defense let him down in the 12th inning committing a pair of errors to allow the winning run to score.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 10, 2012, 02:34:43 PM
Quote from: Babe Truth on May 10, 2012, 12:23:07 PM
But I keep coming back to what I wrote here last week:
". . . a pitcher who has had a great run, but whose last WIAC start, against an offensively challenged 6-25 team, produced a line of 6 ip/13h/11r/6er."
Most pitchers throw up a stinker once in awhile....

I would wager that Westphal's line tomorrow will look closer to the one he put up in previous starts against La Crosse during his career than the one he put up against Platteville his last start.

2009-3.1 IP, 6 hits, 1 run (earned,) 3 BB. 1 K
2010- 9 IP, 4 hits, 1 run (earned,) 3 BB, 5 K's
2011-7 IP, 5 hits, 1 run (unearned, ) 3 BB, 5 K's
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on May 10, 2012, 04:07:00 PM
So here's the big news from La Crosse. The UWL and the La Crosse Loggers have announced a partnership. The Loggers "have committed to making an annual donation to the University sufficient in size to cover the baseball program's yearly fundraising needs." Though a few details still need to be ironed out, as early as next year the Eagles could be calling the city's Copeland Park their new home. It already would be without question the WIAC's finest facility, and upgrade plans call for an artificial turf infield and a new video board.
This is amazing.
Read all about it:
http://www.uwlathletics.com/news/2012/5/9/BB_0509124122.aspx

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 10, 2012, 06:57:53 PM
Quote from: Babe Truth on May 10, 2012, 04:07:00 PM
So here's the big news from La Crosse. The UWL and the La Crosse Loggers have announced a partnership. The Loggers "have committed to making an annual donation to the University sufficient in size to cover the baseball program's yearly fundraising needs." Though a few details still need to be ironed out, as early as next year the Eagles could be calling the city's Copeland Park their new home. It already would be without question the WIAC's finest facility, and upgrade plans call for an artificial turf infield and a new video board.
This is amazing.
Read all about it:
http://www.uwlathletics.com/news/2012/5/9/BB_0509124122.aspx

The only thing bad about the announcement is that it didn't say they were going to pick up Copeland and drop it on campus!!  ;) As it is, Copeland is probably closer to Onalaska than it is to 1725 State Street.

Copeland Park has really changed since I was going to the Stars of Tomorrow games some 40 years ago. At one time, as a young graduate student, I worked on nearby French Island for the Town of Campbell. Ah, the memories...[sigh]
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Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 10, 2012, 09:06:09 PM
That's great news for LaCrosse and puts the baseball program on solid ground.  That's good for the league. 

BT is this correct:  The field dimensions are 325 ft. to left field, 365 ft. to center, and 315 ft. to right.

If so it's also going to be one of the shortest. 
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Post by: Brian Carroll on May 10, 2012, 10:28:33 PM
BW: I'm not sure of the dimensions, but it hasn't been a launching pad in the Northern League. Too bad it's not ready for the games tomorrow. Safe travel to all fans.
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Post by: Babe Truth on May 10, 2012, 11:34:44 PM
I'm seeing the same official dimensions listed everywhere that you are. EXCEPT take a look at a satellite photo from a map like Google's and tell me that there is only a 10 ft. difference between the left and right foul poles. So it could even be that 315 is stretching it a bit. It's odd because they apparently weren't constrained by the street back then which by my rule of thumb (literally) now measures roughly the same distance from the fence as a basepath is long.   The photo here on the Loggers site showing their overflowing largest crowd ever is hilarious and reminds me of images from 19th century baseball, just missing the guys in top hats.
http://www.lacrosseloggers.com/content/the_lumberyard/facts_figures

Madison area old-timers might remember the year 1982 when the Oakland A's Madison Muskies squeezed their first team into old "historic" Breese Stevens field which is more suited for the soccer venue it is now. The then right field rock wall is built right at the sidewalk on East Washington Ave. and there's no way it was even 300 ft from the plate. Crowds used to chant "Hit the bus!" to Muskies batters when one was about to drive by. I suppose that might be possible at Copeland if a stiff wind was blowing out off the water.
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Post by: Babe Truth on May 10, 2012, 11:59:00 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 10, 2012, 09:06:09 PM
That's great news for LaCrosse and puts the baseball program on solid ground.  That's good for the league. 

Here's a thought. If the partnership works out, and there's no reason to think it won't, why not somewhere else too?  Another city where the Northwoods and WIAC meet is Eau Claire.  If I was the EC AD I'd be talking to the Express immediately about resurrecting the Blugolds baseball program and getting the league back to an even number of teams.
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Post by: cubs on May 11, 2012, 08:22:55 AM
Something that crossed my mind on the drive in this morning....

Any chance Westphal doesn't start for UWO this morning against La Crosse?  I can remember UWO not throwing their "ace" on more than one occasion over the past few seasons.  Could it happen again today?
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Post by: MIACLUV on May 11, 2012, 08:57:30 AM
I don't see why you wouldn't run him out there for game 1. Based on the way Coach Lecnir has re-used arms in the past as relievers the chance of him being on the mound more than once in this tournament improves if he throws early. Either that or he works in backwards and limits him to the backend of the game based on LAX end of game heroics.
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Post by: BigPoppa on May 11, 2012, 09:12:10 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 11, 2012, 08:22:55 AM
Something that crossed my mind on the drive in this morning....

Any chance Westphal doesn't start for UWO this morning against La Crosse?  I can remember UWO not throwing their "ace" on more than one occasion over the past few seasons.  Could it happen again today?

A few years ago, Jeremy Ruebens(clearly UWO's #1) did not throw in the regional at all... Lechnir plays to win it all, not to win one game. His wildcard tendencies are difficult to predict...
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Post by: MIACLUV on May 11, 2012, 09:28:19 AM


A few years ago, Jeremy Ruebens(clearly UWO's #1) did not throw in the regional at all... Lechnir plays to win it all, not to win one game. His wildcard tendencies are difficult to predict...
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Had Rueben's been able to throw he would have!
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Post by: MIACLUV on May 11, 2012, 11:16:14 AM
Anyone have an update on what's going on in LaCrosse? No live stats link to game that was to start at 10:00. Rain Possibly?
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Post by: cubs on May 11, 2012, 11:16:21 AM
Nice to see the La Crosse Live Stats working....   ::)

Seriously, how hard is it?
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Post by: cubs on May 11, 2012, 11:22:14 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 11, 2012, 09:12:10 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 11, 2012, 08:22:55 AM
Something that crossed my mind on the drive in this morning....

Any chance Westphal doesn't start for UWO this morning against La Crosse?  I can remember UWO not throwing their "ace" on more than one occasion over the past few seasons.  Could it happen again today?

A few years ago, Jeremy Ruebens(clearly UWO's #1) did not throw in the regional at all... Lechnir plays to win it all, not to win one game. His wildcard tendencies are difficult to predict...
I guess it is time to start expecting the unexpected....

Oshkosh starts Lacy, who held the Eagles to two runs in 8.1 innings earlier this season.

Oshkosh loads the bases with one out in the 1st inning, however Verthein induces a ground ball double play to get out of the inning.

Oshkosh 0
La Crosse 0

Top 3rd
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Post by: cubs on May 11, 2012, 11:33:09 AM
Go buy a $40.00 wireless card and do it right.... 

The live updates aren't even correct, unless of course they switched to beer league softball rules and each team is batting 10 guys!!! 
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Post by: cubs on May 11, 2012, 11:43:38 AM
Maybe someone is following along....  THey made the changes and took the pitchers out of the batting order.

La Crosse strings together three hits in the Bottom of the third inning after Oshkosh strands a pair of runners in the top half.

La Crosse 2
Oshkosh 0

Top 4th
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Post by: cubs on May 11, 2012, 02:01:58 PM
La Crosse opens with the WIAC Tournament with a 10-0 victory in 8 innings....

It is La Crosse's first opening-round win since 2006.  UW-La Crosse advances to winner's bracket and will play at 10:00 a.m. on Saturday against the Winner of the Whitewater/Stevens Point match-up.  UW-Oshkosh will be play in the loser's bracket game at 4:00 p.m. Friday aginst the Loser of Whitewater/Stevens Point.   

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Post by: cubs on May 11, 2012, 04:26:18 PM
Whitewater makes it four out of five against Stevens Point this season as the Warhawks win Game #2 of the WIAC Tournament 4-2.  Cam Seidl takes the loss for the Pointers, while Schmitz picks up the win for Whitewater.

Game #3 will pit Oshkosh vs Stevens Point, starting at 4:00.  I would guess the the pitching match-up would feature Westphal vs Frederick.

Game #4 will be the host team La Crosse facing Whitewater.  Scray vs Stewart would probably be a safe bet for the probable starters.
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Post by: cubs on May 11, 2012, 05:40:12 PM
Kind of surprised to see Stroik get the start for Point against UWO.  The last time he started against the Titans, he didn't make it out of the second inning.

Oshkosh 1
Stevens Point 1

Bottom 3rd Inning
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Post by: cubs on May 11, 2012, 07:31:38 PM
Oshkosh puts the final nail in the Stevens Point coffin and ends their 2012 season as the Titans knock off the Pointers 5-3 in an elimination game at the WIAC Tournament.  The Pointers finish the season losing seven of their final nine games, and go from being 25-8 and in the mix for a Pool C bid to finishing 27-15 and missing the NCAA Postseason Tournament.

This marks the first time since the inception of the WIAC Tournament that Stevens Point failed to win at least one game in the tournament.
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Post by: ShineTime on May 11, 2012, 08:05:05 PM
Bigger collapse than the Red Sox last year.  What can you say a lot of key guys didn't step up.  There's a lot of work to do in recruiting if Point wants to be better next year even though they return a lot.  They need some sticks and more pitching.
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Post by: ShineTime on May 11, 2012, 09:26:26 PM
2013 Pointer Lineup Just for fun. Of course I'm dreaming a little.

1.  Dan Douglas SS
2.  Andrew Eichstadt  2B
3.  Kyle McCugh  3B
4.  Sean Gerber 1B
5.  Ryan Schilter C
6.  Casey Barnes CF
7.  Jimmy Coady  RF
8.  Cody Hanke DH
9.  Clay Giese LF

Rotation  1.  Cam Seidl  2.  Mitch Running  3.  Jp Feyereison  4.  Phil Schreiber  Frederik, Wendorf, and Stroik in N/C games Point could take it all next year.
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Post by: cubs on May 11, 2012, 09:27:54 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 10, 2012, 02:34:43 PM
Quote from: Babe Truth on May 10, 2012, 12:23:07 PM
But I keep coming back to what I wrote here last week:
". . . a pitcher who has had a great run, but whose last WIAC start, against an offensively challenged 6-25 team, produced a line of 6 ip/13h/11r/6er."
Most pitchers throw up a stinker once in awhile....

I would wager that Westphal's line tomorrow will look closer to the one he put up in previous starts against La Crosse during his career than the one he put up against Platteville his last start.

2009-3.1 IP, 6 hits, 1 run (earned,) 3 BB. 1 K
2010- 9 IP, 4 hits, 1 run (earned,) 3 BB, 5 K's
2011-7 IP, 5 hits, 1 run (unearned, ) 3 BB, 5 K's
While it wasn't against La Crosse, Westphal did put a pretty solid line against Stevens Point today...

9 IP, 11 hits, 3 runs (all earned,) 1 BB, 10 K's.... 

If this happens to be his final appearance in a Titans uniform, it was a fitting way for him to go out.  He pitched well scattering 11 hits, and limiting the damage enough to give Oshkosh a chance to win.  Pretty darn good for a kid who didn't really have a single college coach recruit him out of high school.  I think it is also further evidence of the job Coach Lechnir does in developing pitchers, and left-handed ones at that.
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Post by: cubs on May 11, 2012, 09:30:20 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 11, 2012, 09:26:26 PM
2013 Pointer Lineup Just for fun. Of course I'm dreaming a little.

1.  Dan Douglas SS
2.  Andrew Eichstadt  2B
3.  Kyle McCugh  3B
4.  Sean Gerber 1B
5.  Ryan Schilter C
6.  Casey Barnes CF
7.  Jimmy Coady  RF
8.  Cody Hanke DH
9.  Clay Giese LF

Rotation  1.  Cam Seidl  2.  Mitch Running  3.  Jp Feyereison  4.  Phil Schreiber  Frederik, Wendorf, and Stroik in N/C games Point could take it all next year.
Can anyone shed some light on his ejection from the game against Whitewater today and subsequent omission from the Pointer line-up against Oshkosh the next game?
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Post by: ShineTime on May 11, 2012, 09:32:43 PM
Westphal is awesome.  He's truly a great story.  Was very good in high school but I would've never guessed he would've been this good.  Clintonville has produced many very good ballplayers the past 10 years and I think Pat Van Dalwaayk is the next great one for Ripon.  I was impressed with him against Point.  I'm of course bitter that Lechnir didn't pitch Westphal game 1 because I have no doubt Point would be playing tomorrow if they wouldn't have had to face Westphal.
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Post by: ShineTime on May 11, 2012, 09:34:12 PM
I only listened on the radio and didn't know he was ejected.  I know he was 0-5 and his final at bat they said he never swung.  If I had to guess he must have argued the 3rd strike call and told the ump to F off or something.  Doesn't seem like his character but that's all I can really put together.
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Post by: cubs on May 11, 2012, 09:40:57 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 11, 2012, 09:32:43 PM
Westphal is awesome.  He's truly a great story.  Was very good in high school but I would've never guessed he would've been this good.  Clintonville has produced many very good ballplayers the past 10 years and I think Pat Van Dalwaayk is the next great one for Ripon.   I was impressed with him against Point.  I'm of course bitter that Lechnir didn't pitch Westphal game 1 because I have no doubt Point would be playing tomorrow if they wouldn't have had to face Westphal.
There is a rumor going around that Van Daalwyk may transfer from Ripon now that Gillespie is retiring...

BTW-Any idea where the McHugh kid is going now that his JUCO eligibility is used up?
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Post by: ShineTime on May 11, 2012, 09:42:14 PM
Here's a question for you guys?  Does anyone think Point better step it up with their facilities here soon as far as potential recruiting?  Whitewater and Oshkosh are amazing and now La Crosse will be playing where the Loggers play.  Maybe it's not a big deal but I would like to here some opinions.
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Post by: ShineTime on May 11, 2012, 09:46:03 PM
I haven't heard where he's planning on going but am dreaming that he'll be like Jeremy Richter and want to finish up close to home(Rosholt).  I would love to see Van Dalwaayk in a Pointer uniform next year.  Someone help me with the list of players from Clintonville over the past years.  Dean Muthig, Jon Dunlavy, Jeremy Jirschele, Justin Jirschele, Jesse Wiley, Griffin Wiley, Pat Van Dalwaayk, Luke Westphal.  I have to be missing several they went to state in legion at least 3 years in the past 10 maybe more.  How about Thebo did he play in college?  That town is a baseball gold mine.
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Post by: cubs on May 11, 2012, 09:55:52 PM
Other Clintonille High School Players that went on to play in college:
-Ryan Ebert-Concordia (WI)
-Aaron Everts-Marian College
-Jared Westphal-Ripon

Thebo did not play any college ball, although they have a couple of kids on the high school team this season that will likely be playing at the next level as well in the coming years...
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Post by: Babe Truth on May 12, 2012, 02:36:08 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 11, 2012, 09:30:20 PM
Can anyone shed some light on his ejection from the game against Whitewater today and subsequent omission from the Pointer line-up against Oshkosh the next game?

I can. We were a few feet from the backstop at the end of the game. With the tying runs on base, Douglas took a fastball on the outside corner for strike 3, game over. He angrily voiced his disagreement with the call and wouldn't stop. The ump gave him every opportunity to cool down and get away, saying nothing back as he turned and slowly walked away in the general direction of the WW bench. A couple of loud F bombs were hurled at the ump by Douglas who remained near the batter's box. Then came "F*in fag" and that was it. The ump spun around and quickly headed to a surprised Douglas giving him the emphatic heave-ho.   The episode reminded us of some low-rent immature SP team behavior we suffered through when they were sweeping 4 in La Crosse last year. There seemed to be nothing like that when we saw them in Point this year so I thought it was a thing of the past.

We'll never know how the Douglas suspension for the next game affected the outcome. But keep in mind that Giese went from DH to playing 2nd base for Douglas. Batting in the #8 slot, the new DH became Iverson, primarily a pitcher who was 1 for 9 for the SEASON at the plate.  It was Iverson, representing the tying run, who struck out on a half swing to end their season and cap the 2-7 death spiral.
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Post by: cubs on May 12, 2012, 11:53:58 AM
The La Crosse defense is letting them down thus far in today's game against Whitewater.  The first three innings have seen the infield taking turns making errors, as the second-baseman had an error on the first that allowed a run to score, the third-baseman had an error in the second inning, and the shortstop in the third inning that allowed a run to score.

Instead of trailing 1-0, the Eagles trail Whitewater 3-0 after three innings thanks to some shoddy defense.

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Post by: BoBo on May 12, 2012, 11:58:58 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 12, 2012, 11:53:58 AM
The La Crosse defense is letting them down thus far in today's game against Whitewater.  The first three innings have seen the infield taking turns making errors, as the second-baseman had an error on the first that allowed a run to score, the third-baseman had an error in the second inning, and the shortstop in the third inning that allowed a run to score.

Instead of trailing 1-0, the Eagles trail Whitewater 3-0 after three innings thanks to some shoddy defense.

One swing evens the score.
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Post by: BoBo on May 12, 2012, 12:30:59 PM
Top 5 for La Crosse: 2 quick outs, then single, balk, walk, hbp and a Fanta opposite field grand slam puts the Eagles up 7-3.

La X still batting with a double and another walk.  Second pitching change of the inning.
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Post by: cubs on May 12, 2012, 01:06:15 PM
La Crosse puts defensive miscues behind them and bring out the sticks in the 4th and 5th innings to take a 9-3 lead.  Whitewater is on their fourth pitcher of the game already.
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Post by: cubs on May 12, 2012, 01:38:20 PM
La Crosse has continued where they left off during the regular season with a pair of 10-run victories to open the WIAC Tournament.  The Eagles get to sit back now and watch as Whitewater and Oshkosh battle and see if they can beat the Eagles twice to win the WIAC Tournament.

Just to put those chanes in perspective, La Crosse lost two games all season in WIAC play over the course of 23 games.

I would think of nothing else, the results of the first two games should quiet the Eagle doubters around here....
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Post by: cubs on May 12, 2012, 01:47:12 PM
It will be interesting to see the pitching match-up for the Whitewater/Oshkosh game. 

Both teams need to win three straight games to win it.  I'm guessing Oshkosh will trot out Sindles while Whitewater goes with Stewart, with the thinking being if the Warhawks beat Oshkosh, it will practically lock up a Pool C bid if they don't come back to win the tournament.

Sinc that is my hunch, we will probably see Guetzke/Stenson vs Kerndt/Roberts!! ;D
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Post by: cubs on May 12, 2012, 02:11:43 PM
Stewart vs Sindles it is...

During the regular season, Stewart gave up two runs in 6.2 innings of a 8-3 Warhawks win over the Titans.  Sindles on the other hand gave up two runs in 5.1 innings of a 3-2 10-inning victory for the Titans.
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Post by: cubs on May 12, 2012, 02:39:43 PM
WOW!!! 

I wonder if Stewart is experienceing some arm problems?  He goes from starting out the season 7-0 and in contention for the Pitcher of the Year award, to not making it out of the first inning in the WIAC Tournament against the light-hitting Titans.

Oshkosh 3
Whitewater 1

Top 2nd Inning
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Post by: cubs on May 12, 2012, 04:10:37 PM
Whitewater with four runs in both the fourth and fifth innings to take a 10-3 lead, as Oshkosh has failed to score since the Warhawks brought in Colin Grove in relief of Stewart in the First Inning.

EDIT-Oshkosh finally is able to put up a crooked number as they push across three runs in the sixth inning.

Whitewater 10
Oshkosh 6

Top 7th Inning
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Post by: cubs on May 12, 2012, 05:18:11 PM
Whitewater defeats Oshkosh 13-6....
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Post by: ShineTime on May 12, 2012, 09:56:00 PM
Wouldn't mind seeing Whitewater make regionals but am not sure they belong.  15 losses is a lot even thought they did finish 2nd in tough WIAC conference.  I know La Crosse is extremely hot right now but I'm not sure getting blasted twice helped their cause at least in my mind.  If they make it great if not I wouldn't expect too much complaining.
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Post by: Brian Carroll on May 12, 2012, 10:04:32 PM
All Eagles at the WIAC tourney, with 13-3 and 9-1 wins over WW. Congrats to UWL baseball. I won't be shocked if they make a run in the NCAA's. 
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Post by: BoBo on May 13, 2012, 07:50:22 AM
Congrats to La Crosse!! They certainly brought their sledgehammers to this tournament.  ;)  If they continue to fire on all cylinders, they'll be a tough out. Kudos to anyone who can slow them down.
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Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 13, 2012, 11:01:34 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 11, 2012, 08:05:05 PM
Bigger collapse than the Red Sox last year. 

I realize it's a little late to react to this but I've been in LaCrosse and just got to a computer today.  ROTFLMAO

Nothing like a touch of grandiosity to finish up the season.

Regarding LaCrosse....all I can say is WOW.  They are good.  The only thing I could see that might cause a problem for them as the level of competition increases are their gloves.  However the way they're hitting the ball and with the pitching they're getting that might not even matter.  They hit up and down the line up and roughly half the runs they put on the board against us came with two outs.  They just put constant pressure on your defense.  You can see that they are a team playing with a purpose and with a level of confidence and swagger that is impressive.  If that continues I can't think of any reason they couldn't take the regional.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 13, 2012, 11:31:48 AM
I mentioned this earlier on a different board in a conversation with biggio34, but the experience level of the La Crosse team is something that can't be ignored.  Their "core" group of players consists of mainly juniors and seniors, with Cefalu (Sophomore) being the only underclassman in the everyday line-up.
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Post by: thrunt01 on May 14, 2012, 11:22:27 AM
Having seen a number of games over the weekend I came away truly impressed with UWL. They have a fantastic ball club. Even when they get out it's impressive. They can hit, they can pitch, and at least from what I saw they're not shabby in the field either. I would not be surprised to see this team in Appleton. Great job UWL and congrats to UWW for getting a Pool C bid.
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Post by: Babe Truth on May 15, 2012, 01:05:27 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 13, 2012, 11:31:48 AM
. . . the experience level of the La Crosse team is something that can't be ignored.  Their "core" group of players consists of mainly juniors and seniors, with Cefalu (Sophomore) being the only underclassman in the everyday line-up.

And funny thing, Mr Clutch Cefalu is leading the team in RBIs - from the leadoff spot. That's a good indication of how their balanced offense has had the bottom of the order getting on base. 

And speaking of experience - it might help that they've already played 4 games on that field. They nearly split with last year's WW team that was 23-2 at home, winning one and losing the next 1-0 in 13 inn.  Scray shut down a team that won 37 games with, get this -- 11ip-5h-0w-0runs. SS Geary was outstanding, error-free in the series. I wouldn't worry about the team D. on that carpet and their outfield can run with anyone.
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Post by: Babe Truth on May 15, 2012, 04:12:46 PM
The All-WIAC team just came out with 20 on the list.
http://www.wiacsports.com/news/2012/5/15/BB_0515120456.aspx

The biggest surprise might be the 3-headed Position Player of the Year:
Jay Fanta, Marty Herum and Jared Fon.

Tough love for other Freshmen as the deserving Gangestad and Polcyn were passed over. Those who did not give UWL's catcher Zach Harazin any recognition must not have been paying attention when he was behind the plate and calling the games.
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Post by: bulk19 on May 18, 2012, 10:26:20 PM
Congrats to the Eagles on a fine season this year, especially to this year's seniors who, after their freshman season, stuck around and raised money to keep the program afloat after it was cut from the UWL athletics program after that 2009 season...

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Post by: cubs on May 28, 2012, 02:54:31 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 11, 2012, 09:26:26 PM
2013 Pointer Lineup Just for fun. Of course I'm dreaming a little.

1.  Dan Douglas SS
2.  Andrew Eichstadt  2B
3.  Kyle McCugh  3B
4.  Sean Gerber 1B
5.  Ryan Schilter C
6.  Casey Barnes CF
7.  Jimmy Coady  RF
8.  Cody Hanke DH
9.  Clay Giese LF
Sounds like McHugh is heading to either North Dakota State or a school in New Jersey after using up his two years of eligibility at the JUCO level...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 28, 2012, 04:31:42 PM
Another kick in the nuts being a Pointer fan.  Why can't Point have happen what St. Thomas did having Maher and Thomas both come from JUCO to lead the Tommies to a national title?
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Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 30, 2012, 01:18:33 PM
Some WIAC athletes playing in the Northwoods League this season.

Wis Rapids Rafters: Skyler Debilizen, Cam Seidl
LaCrosse Loggers: Tim Vertlein, Cole Cefalu
Green Bay Bullfrogs: Matt Roberts

A few other players playing but not listed on the team's roster.

Wisconsin Woodchucks: Mike Mierow, Brooks Braga
Wisconsin Rapids Rafters: Danny Douglas
Lakeshore Chinooks: Tyler Kamps
Eau Claire Express: Ryan Gerber

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 07, 2012, 03:31:06 PM
Former Stevens Point standout Justin Jirschele signs a free agent contract with the Chicago White Sox today.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on August 14, 2012, 01:16:04 PM
Members of the WARHAWK baseball team are traveling to Europe for a series of games.  Six games will be played in total including the countries of Croatia, Czech Republic, Hungry and Germany. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on August 15, 2012, 12:27:06 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on August 14, 2012, 01:16:04 PM
Members of the WARHAWK baseball team are traveling to Europe for a series of games.  Six games will be played in total including the countries of Croatia, Czech Republic, Hungry and Germany.
What Dates? Sounds like a good experience for those players.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on August 15, 2012, 09:35:36 PM
August 13th - 31st.
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Post by: badgerwarhawk on September 07, 2012, 09:31:38 AM
The WARHAWKS went 6-0 in Europe.  I don't know any details except Marty Herum hit a ball onto the roof of a schoolhouse that one local said he had never seen done before.  Evidently because of the field's ground rules it was a double.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on October 08, 2012, 03:05:38 PM
I'd like to interrupt this off-season for a big pat on the back for Jordan Zimmermann. A WIAC guy starting an MLB playoff game is indescribably cool no matter who your favorite team is. He's got Nattitude.

http://www.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20121007&content_id=39565220&vkey=news_was&c_id=was
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Post by: Buckeye21 on October 16, 2012, 02:10:16 PM
While surfing the net the other day I ran across this little video & story. It looks like  some of Zimmermann's old teammates went down to St. Louis to see him play.
You people in Wisconsin may enjoy this.

http://mlb.mlb.com/cutfour/index.jsp#contentId=39632194
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on October 16, 2012, 09:41:23 PM
Thrun, Frombach, and Schossler I assume?
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Post by: tomt4525 on October 17, 2012, 12:23:00 AM
Quote from: cubs on October 16, 2012, 09:41:23 PM
Thrun, Frombach, and Schossler I assume?

Schlosser....but yes that would be correct.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on October 17, 2012, 02:22:04 PM
Rob Coe has been signed by the Arizona Diamondbacks after a very successful American Association league season as a pitcher.  As a starting pitcher for the St Paul Saints Coe pitched 138 innings, a franchise record, had a 12-5 w/l record, tied for second in the league, with a 2.91 era, 3rd best in the league.  Coe was the league's Pitcher of the Week and Pitcher of the Month in July.  Baseball America has him rated the 8th best prospect in independent league baseball.

Good luck Rob.
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Post by: cubs on October 21, 2012, 10:28:11 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 28, 2012, 04:31:42 PM
Another kick in the nuts being a Pointer fan.  Why can't Point have happen what St. Thomas did having Maher and Thomas both come from JUCO to lead the Tommies to a national title?
Not so fast.....  Sounds like JUCO transfer Kyle McHugh has ended up at Point afterall.  Don't know all the details, but McHugh has been practicing with the team this fall.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on December 13, 2012, 03:16:57 PM
Any news out there about incoming recruits to the WIAC??

I've done some digging in terms of Point's recruiting class.  I basically just looked at the All District teams and checked the student directory at UWSP.  From what I found, 2 big recruits heading to Point are Ben Messenger from Bay Port (already had some online articles about him choosing Point) and Joe Zuiker from Rhinelander.  Other guys from All District teams that look to be enrolled at Point are Kody McHugh from Mosinee, Chad Patko from Hayward, Chace Mindel from Hortonville and Tyler Thompson from Menasha.  Of course, these guys may just be enrolled at Point and not playing baseball though.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on December 13, 2012, 03:30:25 PM
Quote from: cubs on October 21, 2012, 10:28:11 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 28, 2012, 04:31:42 PM
Another kick in the nuts being a Pointer fan.  Why can't Point have happen what St. Thomas did having Maher and Thomas both come from JUCO to lead the Tommies to a national title?
Not so fast.....  Sounds like JUCO transfer Kyle McHugh has ended up at Point afterall.  Don't know all the details, but McHugh has been practicing with the team this fall.

Checking the student directory like I did for the All District teams, it looks as if Kyle McHugh was enrolled first semester but not for the second semester this year.  I wonder what happened there.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on December 14, 2012, 11:56:16 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on December 13, 2012, 03:30:25 PM
Quote from: cubs on October 21, 2012, 10:28:11 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 28, 2012, 04:31:42 PM
Another kick in the nuts being a Pointer fan.  Why can't Point have happen what St. Thomas did having Maher and Thomas both come from JUCO to lead the Tommies to a national title?
Not so fast.....  Sounds like JUCO transfer Kyle McHugh has ended up at Point afterall.  Don't know all the details, but McHugh has been practicing with the team this fall.

Checking the student directory like I did for the All District teams, it looks as if Kyle McHugh was enrolled first semester but not for the second semester this year.  I wonder what happened there.

Maybe he is just taking his time figuring out what classes he wants to take.  Do they have an enrollment deadline?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on December 14, 2012, 03:33:39 PM
I have not heard anything official from the schools yet in terms of recruits. That will come after the start of next semester. I do know some recruits, but you never can be sure until the term starts.

What I do have is my copy of the WBCA All-Star program that states players' college plans. Whether they're even playing baseball is not certain, so take them for what they are – printed college intentions from late June and things to ponder in mid-December.

UWSP: Brandon Kranz (Waukesha West), Tony Schmidt (Beaver Dam), Mitch Berceau (Lux-Casco), Derek Evers (Kimberly), Tyler Thompson (Menasha), Seth Merrill (Stevens Point).

UWL: Troy Kenkel (Menomonee Falls), Travis Jacobson (River Valley), Jedd Sebion (Westby), Alex Cordova (Merrill), Taylor Kohlwey (Holmen), Joe Vike (Holmen).

UWO: Peter Newell (Muskego), Taylor Ditter (Sheboygan South), Michael Mergener (Coleman), Nate Schmidt (Pardeeville).

Stout: Alex Johnson (Black River Falls), Mitchell LaVelle (Chippewa Falls).

UWP: Tyler Trautsch (Viroqua), Zackary Iverson (Rib Lake).

UWW: Adam Bielmeier (Cumberland).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on December 14, 2012, 05:29:15 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on December 14, 2012, 03:33:39 PM
I have not heard anything official from the schools yet in terms of recruits. That will come after the start of next semester. I do know some recruits, but you never can be sure until the term starts.

What I do have is my copy of the WBCA All-Star program that states players' college plans. Whether they're even playing baseball is not certain, so take them for what they are – printed college intentions from late June and things to ponder in mid-December.

UWSP: Brandon Kranz (Waukesha West), Tony Schmidt (Beaver Dam), Mitch Berceau (Lux-Casco), Derek Evers (Kimberly), Tyler Thompson (Menasha), Seth Merrill (Stevens Point).

UWL: Troy Kenkel (Menomonee Falls), Travis Jacobson (River Valley), Jedd Sebion (Westby), Alex Cordova (Merrill), Taylor Kohlwey (Holmen), Joe Vike (Holmen).

UWO: Peter Newell (Muskego), Taylor Ditter (Sheboygan South), Michael Mergener (Coleman), Nate Schmidt (Pardeeville).

Stout: Alex Johnson (Black River Falls), Mitchell LaVelle (Chippewa Falls).

UWP: Tyler Trautsch (Viroqua), Zackary Iverson (Rib Lake).

UWW: Adam Bielmeier (Cumberland).

Mr. Nelson, you are the Sherlock Holmes of D3 baseball.  Thanks for the post!
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Post by: badgerwarhawk on January 22, 2013, 01:24:04 PM
Three WIAC athletes have been selected to D3baseball.com's preseason All American team.

Steven Point's Ryan Schilter (C) was named to the first team while two WARHAWKS, Marty Herum (1B) and Jared Fon (3B), were named to the second team. 

http://d3baseball.com/awards/all-americans/d3baseball-preseason-allamericans-2013
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on January 25, 2013, 11:12:18 AM
Most of the WARHAWKS 2013 schedule has been posted.  The team opens the season 3/7 with a double hitter against St Thomas at the MetroDome and then travels to St Louis for a single game with Fontbonne and a double hitter against Illinois Wesleyan.  Those games are followed by the trip to Florida where opponents are still to be determined.  Other nonconference opponents include double hitters with Ripon, Saint Scholastica and Concordia (Wi).   

http://www.uwwsports.com/schedule.aspx?path=baseball& 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on January 31, 2013, 09:41:57 PM
Did point really land Ben messenger if so that will really make their staff much better? Should be a great year in the Wiac I'm expecting point and whitewater to go far but either way will probably get bounced by st Thomas Seidel will need to pick up where he did last year for them to have chance did they add any big boppers to middle of lineup?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on February 06, 2013, 10:49:27 PM
Anyone have any updates?  I have heard some bad things about point including a top pitcher done for year and a big recruit being in eligible.  Really a bummer hearing that.  Also heard a key member of Oshkosh may be going to ripon.  Anyone have whitewater or la crosse updates?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on February 07, 2013, 12:05:52 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 06, 2013, 10:49:27 PM
Anyone have any updates?  I have heard some bad things about point including a top pitcher done for year and a big recruit being in eligible.  Really a bummer hearing that.  Also heard a key member of Oshkosh may be going to ripon.  Anyone have whitewater or la crosse updates?

That is too bad.  It is hard enough to win and be successful with a full compliment of players and to have injuries and off field issues hamper a team is an unfortunate thing.

I don't have any insider info, but I did see an interesting blurb in Baseball America on a new arm LAX has added and they are projecting him as one of the top draft prospects in D3 baseball...

"Joel Effertz, rhp, Wisconsin-Lacrosse: On fourth school in four seasons; low-90s fastball and big body (6-foot-3, 240) intrigue scouts."

"RHP Joel Effertz hopes to get it right this time as he plays for his fourth college team. A 37th-round pick out of a Wisconsin high school in 2009 (Dodgers), he committed to Arizona, didn't play as a freshman and transferred back home to Madison Area Technical CC. He then transferred to Virginia, tossing 12 innings with 14 strikeouts in 2012. Now he goes home again to Wisconsin-Lacrosse. Physical at 6-foot-3, 240 pounds, Effertz needs innings and figures to get them if his low-90s fastball overpowers Division III hitters."

Fanta will be a big loss for them offensively but I think they have enough back, and with this addition, are poised to have another great year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: thrunt01 on February 07, 2013, 03:57:58 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 06, 2013, 10:49:27 PM
Anyone have any updates?  I have heard some bad things about point including a top pitcher done for year and a big recruit being in eligible.  Really a bummer hearing that.  Also heard a key member of Oshkosh may be going to ripon.  Anyone have whitewater or la crosse updates?

Care to specify at all? I can only think of 2 key guys that would be returning and I can't imagine either of them transferring.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 07, 2013, 04:57:21 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 06, 2013, 10:49:27 PM
Anyone have any updates?  I have heard some bad things about point including a top pitcher done for year and a big recruit being in eligible.  Really a bummer hearing that.  Also heard a key member of Oshkosh may be going to ripon.  Anyone have whitewater or la crosse updates?
THE top pitcher would be more descriptive. But UWSP does have a couple of transfers for the lineup and another transfer for the bullpen.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on February 07, 2013, 06:27:07 PM
I heard Polcyn is but it's not official.  Heard from a very good source but am not throwing anyone under the bus.  Also heard seidl had surgery and will be done until next year.  Apparently that's old news but I actually just heard a few days ago.  Kyle mccugh would've been tremendous addition to middle of lineup but I heard the grades weren't good enough.  Obviously any of this stuff could be bs and if so I apologize.  Sounds like points baseball team is having as much as their hoops team with injuries.  Also forgot that Cody hanke may have serious injury and could be out.  Anyone with whitewater news the lacrosse news sounds good for them.  Hopefully he'll have a Steve maher impact for them as long as point can still beat him.  Going into the season I'm really nervous about their offense even though they have some definite studs. Pitching should still be better than average with Fredrick feyerison stroik messenger and wendorf.  Anyone know whose at 2 nd and lf for point.  Heard they got a new 3 b from Concordia and am guessing Barnes will play second.  Perhaps Kranz in left or hanke if healthy?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on February 07, 2013, 06:49:25 PM
To be honest I hope it's all bs because it mainly affects uwsp.  Why did Polcyn choose Oshkosh after leaving Milwaukee?  Hadn't he picked point prior to scholarship offer?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on February 07, 2013, 07:20:31 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on February 07, 2013, 04:57:21 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 06, 2013, 10:49:27 PM
Anyone have any updates?  I have heard some bad things about point including a top pitcher done for year and a big recruit being in eligible.  Really a bummer hearing that.  Also heard a key member of Oshkosh may be going to ripon.  Anyone have whitewater or la crosse updates?
THE top pitcher would be more descriptive. But UWSP does have a couple of transfers for the lineup and another transfer for the bullpen.

Any names on the transfers??
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: thrunt01 on February 07, 2013, 11:41:36 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 07, 2013, 06:27:07 PM
I heard Polcyn is but it's not official.  Heard from a very good source but am not throwing anyone under the bus.  Also heard seidl had surgery and will be done until next year.  Apparently that's old news but I actually just heard a few days ago.  Kyle mccugh would've been tremendous addition to middle of lineup but I heard the grades weren't good enough.  Obviously any of this stuff could be bs and if so I apologize.  Sounds like points baseball team is having as much as their hoops team with injuries.  Also forgot that Cody hanke may have serious injury and could be out.  Anyone with whitewater news the lacrosse news sounds good for them.  Hopefully he'll have a Steve maher impact for them as long as point can still beat him.  Going into the season I'm really nervous about their offense even though they have some definite studs. Pitching should still be better than average with Fredrick feyerison stroik messenger and wendorf.  Anyone know whose at 2 nd and lf for point.  Heard they got a new 3 b from Concordia and am guessing Barnes will play second.  Perhaps Kranz in left or hanke if healthy?

Huh I know Mike was enrolled in the fall. I'll check on that.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: thrunt01 on February 07, 2013, 11:49:28 PM
Quote from: thrunt01 on February 07, 2013, 11:41:36 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 07, 2013, 06:27:07 PM
I heard Polcyn is but it's not official.  Heard from a very good source but am not throwing anyone under the bus.  Also heard seidl had surgery and will be done until next year.  Apparently that's old news but I actually just heard a few days ago.  Kyle mccugh would've been tremendous addition to middle of lineup but I heard the grades weren't good enough.  Obviously any of this stuff could be bs and if so I apologize.  Sounds like points baseball team is having as much as their hoops team with injuries.  Also forgot that Cody hanke may have serious injury and could be out.  Anyone with whitewater news the lacrosse news sounds good for them.  Hopefully he'll have a Steve maher impact for them as long as point can still beat him.  Going into the season I'm really nervous about their offense even though they have some definite studs. Pitching should still be better than average with Fredrick feyerison stroik messenger and wendorf.  Anyone know whose at 2 nd and lf for point.  Heard they got a new 3 b from Concordia and am guessing Barnes will play second.  Perhaps Kranz in left or hanke if healthy?

Huh I know Mike was enrolled in the fall. I'll check on that.

Well just checked on it and he is at UWO in a PE class with my source. Rumor may have stemmed from his girlfriend going to school at Ripon but all signs point to him being a Titan.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on February 08, 2013, 07:46:58 AM
Perhaps after this season hell transfer its really hard to say the guy I talked to made it really seem he was leaving but did state nothing was official. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on February 08, 2013, 11:08:58 AM
Quote from: thrunt01 on February 07, 2013, 11:49:28 PM
Well just checked on it and he is at UWO in a PE class with my source. Rumor may have stemmed from his girlfriend going to school at Ripon but all signs point to him being a Titan.

Ah yes, the spring semester PE class.  A must for all baseball players.  :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on February 12, 2013, 11:38:59 PM
After reading the Midwest Region preview on the D3sports website, it looks as though Cam Seidl is indeed out for this season with Tommy John surgery, will be back for the 2014 season.  They also mention two transfers for Point who should help the lineup, Harry Steldt from Concordia-Wisconsin and Kyle McHugh from John A Logan JC.  There have been some reports about whether McHugh will be eligible or not, anybody have any info on that front??

Anyways, if Point's pitching keeps developing from last year, they should field a pretty formidable team as usual.  I'll get a first hand look when they play at the Metrodome in about a month.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on February 13, 2013, 07:41:45 AM
I was told last week mccugh is in eligible which sucks for point.  I'm concerned about the bottom three hitters in the lineup at this point.  First 6 guys will be well above average though
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on February 13, 2013, 10:57:29 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 13, 2013, 07:41:45 AM
I was told last week mccugh is in eligible which sucks for point.  I'm concerned about the bottom three hitters in the lineup at this point.  First 6 guys will be well above average though

I know this will come off as a slam towards McHugh but I really am not trying to...just with my experience in college, if McHugh is ineligible because of grades, he really must not take classes seriously.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on February 13, 2013, 11:59:53 AM
At most colleges (barring an undiagnosed learning disability or something) you have to try really, really hard to get less than a 2.0.

"Eighty percent of success is just showing up." - Woody Allen

So by Woody's logic just showing up for class will get you a B-.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on February 13, 2013, 04:03:34 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 06, 2013, 10:49:27 PM
Anyone have whitewater or la crosse updates?

The Eagles' addition of Joel Effertz is definitely the biggest. Speed isn't everything of course but he's hit 93 so far. Along with All-WIAC Johnson and Verthein that's a great rotation in the making if everyone stays healthy.  Reliever Debilzen had a very good Northwoods summer with Wis Rapids. 

The very solid outfield (Braga, Cefalu, Burmeister) and DH (Cordova) return as the offensive core but Fanta obviously will be missed.  The entire infield and behind the plate might be up for grabs in a very competitive situation with 6-7 infielders and 2 catchers. Infielder Josh Rowles should be another very good transfer from Madison College. The top freshman will likely be Cordova's brother Alex, a two-time, first team All State shortstop from Merrill.

One other update - the move to Copeland Park now looks like it won't happen until next season. After going 16-1 at home last year, maybe that's not a bad thing.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on February 13, 2013, 04:18:10 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 13, 2013, 07:41:45 AM
I was told last week mccugh is in eligible which sucks for point. 

Forgive me, but this just seems like a lot of hope and attention for a player who had pretty routine JuCo numbers as mostly a DH last season.   Now, losing Seidl for the season is obviously huge and a real shame for him and his team.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on February 13, 2013, 06:10:56 PM
Quote from: Babe Truth on February 13, 2013, 04:18:10 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 13, 2013, 07:41:45 AM
I was told last week mccugh is in eligible which sucks for point. 

Forgive me, but this just seems like a lot of hope and attention for a player who had pretty routine JuCo numbers as mostly a DH last season.   Now, losing Seidl for the season is obviously huge and a real shame for him and his team.

I could be wrong....but looking at some articles about John A Logan JC and also looking up McHugh, it seemed as though he faced many Division 1 players so his numbers still seem very impressive to me.  If he faced high level competition it should easily transition to the middle of the order for a WIAC team.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on February 13, 2013, 06:40:31 PM
I've watched him play numerous times and he's the real deal.  Would be 3 4 or 5 in order on any Wiac team.  Can flat out mash
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on February 14, 2013, 01:41:54 PM
OK guys, I respect that.  Are you then maybe saying the level of competition in the WIAC might be a step below the 2-yr college circuit in general?  Otherwise, I'd have to wonder how much a contending WIAC team would desire a .298/.352/.404 with zero SB's in the heart of the order.

That brings up something I've been wondering about for a while, for you longtime league observers: Does a typical transfer from a (good <edit>) 2 year program usually perform better, worse, or about the same in the WIAC the following season? 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on February 14, 2013, 01:54:07 PM
"2-year colleges" is too diverse of a group to make an easy comparison with. You've got JUCO's that act as feeders to the top Division I programs (or to the pros, like Bryce Harper) and you also have JUCO's that are little more the fun, recreational teams against a couple local schools.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on February 14, 2013, 02:10:58 PM
I was definitely referring to the more competitive Logan and Madison Colleges of the baseball world.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 14, 2013, 02:16:22 PM
Quote from: Babe Truth on February 14, 2013, 01:41:54 PM
OK guys, I respect that.  Are you then maybe saying the level of competition in the WIAC might be a step below the 2-yr college circuit in general?  Otherwise, I'd have to wonder how much a contending WIAC team would desire a .298/.352/.404 with zero SB's in the heart of the order.

That brings up something I've been wondering about for a while, for you longtime league observers: Does a typical transfer from a 2 year program usually perform better, worse, or about the same in the WIAC the following season?

Depends on where the 2 year program is located. I know the SoCal Juco leagues are unreal. There are back up players that often sign to play on D1 rosters. The SoCal and Texas JCs produce D1 and draftable talent year after year. I once signed a pair of backups from that league that went on to be NAIA all-Americans for me and both were drafted and played many years of pro ball. Hard to compare the JCs as a whole. Like D3 leagues, they are all different in terms of what they produce.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on February 14, 2013, 02:29:51 PM
Well, fair enough. But those aren't the guys transferring to the WIAC.  I'd guess 99% are from Wisconsin and the adjoining states.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 14, 2013, 02:34:07 PM
Quote from: Babe Truth on February 14, 2013, 02:29:51 PM
Well, fair enough. But those aren't the guys transferring to the WIAC.  I'd guess 99% are from Wisconsin and the adjoining states.

True... Locally, you are likely gleening talent from Mad Tech(WI), Kishwaukee(IL), Trition(IL), CLC(IL), Century(MN), Ridgewater(MN), etc... Iowa schools had a huge run of talent a few years ago as well at Boone, Des Moines, Indian Hills, etc... lots of locally talented programs if you are willing to dig a bit.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 14, 2013, 11:32:03 PM
Quote from: Babe Truth on February 14, 2013, 01:41:54 PM
OK guys, I respect that.  Are you then maybe saying the level of competition in the WIAC might be a step below the 2-yr college circuit in general?  Otherwise, I'd have to wonder how much a contending WIAC team would desire a .298/.352/.404 with zero SB's in the heart of the order.

That brings up something I've been wondering about for a while, for you longtime league observers: Does a typical transfer from a (good <edit>) 2 year program usually perform better, worse, or about the same in the WIAC the following season?
While the other numbers are "fair" to question, the 0 SB's seem really out of place.  If he is hitting 3-4-5, there are a lot fewer opportunities to run.  I would me more concerned with HR/RBI/XBH numbers from the middle of the order.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on February 15, 2013, 11:35:44 AM
Quote from: cubs on February 14, 2013, 11:32:03 PM
While the other numbers are "fair" to question, the 0 SB's seem really out of place.  If he is hitting 3-4-5, there are a lot fewer opportunities to run.  I would me more concerned with HR/RBI/XBH numbers from the middle of the order.

Some truth there about RBI and fewer opportunities to run, but does Point ever have big holes in the lineup or take its foot off the gas?  (And if Braun can get 30 steals in front of Fielder & Ramirez when he's not running from PEDs suspicions . . . ) 
I was just looking for some added Sabermetrics-type value in those stats if walks & singles were turned into doubles by a speedy runner.  At any rate, I really did not want to single a guy out and do hope things work out for him. 

I'm still just wondering about the performance of WIAC transfers in general over the years. Better than at a good 2-yr. program? Worse? Similar?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 01, 2013, 10:40:05 PM
Point's roster is up

http://athletics.uwsp.edu/roster.aspx?path=baseball& (http://athletics.uwsp.edu/roster.aspx?path=baseball&)

New players include:

Clint Rose   FR  Watertown, WI   SS/2B
Peter Feldkamp   FR   Wrightstown, WI   C
Luke Watson  SO   Appleton Xavior   RHP     Carthage Transfer
Ben Messenger  FR  Bay Port, WI   LHP
Nick Douglas  SR   East Troy, WI   OF/2B
Bryton Guckenberg   FR   Trego, MT   OF
Brandon Shutt   FR    Spooner, WI   C
Kody McHugh    FR    Mosinee, WI    RHP
Kyle Sternberg   FR   Green Bay Preble, WI    RHP
Harry Steidt    JR    West Bend West, WI     1B/3B     CUW Transfer
David Van Vliet     FR    Lowell, MI    RHP
Alex Tarras       FR     D.C Everest, WI       C
Brandon Kranz     FR     Waukesha West, WI     1B/OF
Ryan Williams    FR    SPASH, WI     RHP

Guys Not Returning

Clay Giese   2B/SS   SPASH
Josh Barnes  SS/2B   SPASH
Brett Ziegel   LHP   Wausau West
Aaron Nelson  3B/RHP   Oregon, WI
Brady Nelson  LHP   Mauston
Aaron Jushka   C/OF   Waukesha West
Kenneth Chiu   RHP   Hong Kong
Matt Freeman   RHP/OF    Green Bay Southwest
Cain Trunkel    RHP    Neillsville, WI

Cam Seidl is injured for the year so he won't be back until next year as well.


Anybody see the new guys play in high school??  What kind of impact do you expect from these guys??  With the accolades that Brett Ziegel and Brady Nelson came in with last year I expected them to be big contributors in the future, I guess I was wrong.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 01, 2013, 11:41:07 PM
Clay giese is huge loss IMO he had a lot of potential.  Messenger struck out 17 batters at state last year his ball really moves could see him being next reinke thrun or Delorit for point if he works for it. Heard Kranz is a stud and is being compared to arch archambeau
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on March 07, 2013, 05:47:54 PM
Here's the pre-season poll of coaches and SIDs, with (first place votes):

1. Whitewater  (7)
2. La Crosse  (6)
3. Stevens Point  (1)
4. Oshkosh
5. Superior
6. Stout
7. Platteville

http://www.wiacsports.com/news/2013/3/7/BB_0307132336.aspx

WIAC diehards can see 4 for the price of 1 in the Metrodome Sunday when the UWL vs St. Thomas DH is followed by a pair with UWSP vs Gustavus Adolphus late into the night.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 07, 2013, 06:35:12 PM
I have platteville 3rd
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: GBMAN on March 07, 2013, 11:56:41 PM
T6: UWW 4 V UST 2
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: GBMAN on March 08, 2013, 12:42:35 AM
Wisconsin-Whitewater 4 v UST 2 final game 1. Lambert a complete 4 hit game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 08, 2013, 07:40:13 AM
St Thomas takes game 2 6 to 4.  Looks like whitewater roughed up Joey toedt a little.  I didn't envision whitewater beating maher but great job for the hawks.  Their confidence has to be high after beating a pitcher of that caliber.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 10, 2013, 10:42:51 PM
Lacrosse and st Thomas split today.  Pitchers dual in game 1 with Dylan Thomas out dueling Tim breathe in for 2 to 1 win.  Joel effertz pitched a gem in game 2 striking out 7 in 6 innings to give lacrosse 4 to 1 win.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on March 11, 2013, 10:54:24 PM
UWL has to be feeling very good after the season-opening split against a #2 team that already had played six games in the strange Dome environs.
Tim Verthein was strong allowing just 1 ER in the loss, and it was very nearly cut down at the plate.  The Tommies' Dylan Thomas might be the best pitcher the Eagles face this year.
Game 2 starter Joel Effertz looked to be the real deal in his UWL debut with more than just a good fastball, striking out Thomas all 3 times with off speed stuff.  Adam Cordova's bat is already smoking and the top of the order should produce a lot of runs. The defense looks improved though it was on the carpet after all. Transfer Josh Rowles looked good at 3rd, had 2 hits in game 2, missed extra bases down the line by inches and was robbed of a triple or inside the park jog when the centerfielder made a spectacular diving catch running toward the left-centerfield fence.
All in all there was a lot to like before heading to Arizona.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 17, 2013, 03:15:20 PM
The WARHAWKS went 2-1 in Saint Louis over the weekend.  On Friday they beat Fontbonne 15-2 on a two hitter and 5-1 on a three hitter.  Tom Kerndt went five innings to get the win in game one.  Steve Bartlien had three hits including a pair of home runs.  Michael Gonzalas also homered.  Both Bartlien and Marty Herum had three RBI.  Gonzalas, Sam Keller and Mike Mierow all had a pair.  Matt Roberts struck out eight in five innings to pick up the win in game two.  Herum and Dylan Friend each had a pair of hits.  Gonzalas got another pair of RBI as did Mikole Pierce.  The 4-0 loss came Saturday at the hands of  Illnois Wesleyan.  IWU score all four runs in the fourth inning on 5 singles, a WARHAWKS error and a pair of wild pitches.  Justin Lambert took the loss surrendering 7 hits in 6 innings.  Mierow had a pair of hits.   

The WARHAWKS play in Arburndale and Winter Haven FL. March 21-28.  Opponents include Western New England, Grinnell, Benedictine, MIT and Southern Maine.  Additionally 7 reserve games are scheduled.     
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 22, 2013, 05:33:22 PM
The WARHAWKS opened their spring trip with a 7-5 win over Western New England.  WNE led with a pair of runs in the top of the first.  The WARHAWKS tied it in the bottom of the inning on RBI singles from Sam Keller and Steve Bartlien.  WNE scored a run in the second and held the lead until the WARHAWKS plated three in the fourth on RBI's from Michael Gonzalez and David Cladis.  The  WARHAWKS added a run in the seventh on a wild pitch and another on Marty Herum's sac fly.  WNE got a pair in the ninth.

Justin Lambert (2-1) went 7.1 innings for the win.  No WARHAWKS had multiple hits but of the eight team hits three were doubles (Gonzalez, Dylan Friend, Mike Mierow) and one was a triple (JT Schneider).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: thrunt01 on March 23, 2013, 11:00:45 AM
Record wise Oshkosh if off to a great start down in Florida but I will be the first to admit I have no idea how good the teams that they are playing are. Regardless wins are always better than losses.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 23, 2013, 02:30:05 PM
The WARHAWKS defeated Grinnell 8-5 yesterday.  Dylan Friend's RBI double got the WARHAWKS on the board and Marty Herum's RBI triple gave them a 2-0 lead.  Grinnell scored one in the fourth but the WARHAWKS answered with two runs in the fifth on Sam Keller's RBI single and a fielders choice.  Michael Gonzalez and Jared Fon both had RBI singles in the sixth to make the score 6-1.  A pair of WARHAWKS errors and a wild pitch gave Grinnell a pair of unearned runs in the seventh.  Fon added another RBI with a sac fly in the eighth and Mike Mierow singled in a run in the ninth.  Grinnell answered with an earned and an unearned run in the ninth.

Tom Kerndt (2-1) went 8 innings giving up 6 hits and 3 runs (1 earned) with 3 Ks and 1 BB.  Fon went 3x3 with 2 RBI.  Gonzalez was 4x5 and scored 3 times.   Mikole Pierce tripled.   As a team the WARHAWKS had 6 extra base hits including 4 doubles and a pair of triples.     
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 23, 2013, 05:26:34 PM
The WARHAWKS improved their spring trip record to 3-0 with a 9-4 win over Benedictine.  The WARHAWKS jumped on top 2-0 when Jared Fon hit an RBI double and then scored on a throwing error.  However Benedictine scored single runs in the top of the second, third and fifth innings to go up 3-2.  The WARHAWKS tied the game with an unearned run in the bottom of the fifth and added three more in the seventh when Marty Herum singled and errors by Benedictine resulted in a pair of unearned runs.  The WARHAWKS final three runs came in the bottom of the eighth when Michael Gonzalez doubled home a run, Herum had another RBI single and Mikol Pierce tripled.  Benedictine ended the scoring with a unearned run in the ninth.

Matt Roberts (2-0) picked up the win pitching 8.1 innings surrendering 8 hits, 4 runs (2 earned) with 8 K and 3 BB.  David Cladis was 4x4 and scored twice.  Fon went 3x4.  Gonzalez and Herum each had a pair of hits. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 23, 2013, 10:42:00 PM
Point split with st Thomas today lost game 1 9 to 7 and took game 2 3 to 2
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 23, 2013, 11:37:07 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 23, 2013, 10:42:00 PM
Point split with st Thomas today lost game 1 9 to 7 and took game 2 3 to 2

Looks like St Thomas already has more losses than you predicted for them all season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 24, 2013, 06:21:36 PM
Quote from: thrunt01 on March 23, 2013, 11:00:45 AM
Record wise Oshkosh if off to a great start down in Florida but I will be the first to admit I have no idea how good the teams that they are playing are. Regardless wins are always better than losses.
The best team they played (Johns Hopkins) they lost to 6-5....  Although if not for a infiled pop up that landed between a pair of IF's was caught, they MAY have won and went 12-0 on the trip.

All in all, UWO has to be happy with how they played.  Their offense appears to be better than last season, even with Kamps missing a handful of games.  I think the results of their first week of WIAC games (two at Stevens Point and four vs La Crosse) will tell us more about where this UWO team is (and what kind of depth they have) however. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 24, 2013, 10:49:09 PM
Anyone have details of point and st Thomas split.  Curious as to who pitched for both teams.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 25, 2013, 01:02:51 PM
Brad Storik got the win with 3 innings of relief.
Max Frederick took the loss giving up 5 runs (3 earned) in 2.1 innings.
Coady had a good day going 5x6 with a pair of RBI.

D. Thomas got the win and T Danczek took the loss for St Thomas

The box scores are on Point's website if you want more information.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 26, 2013, 08:39:50 PM
WARHAWKS: 11
MIT: 4

The WARHAWKS opened the scoring with three runs in the bottom of the third when Mikol Pierce singled in a run and Sam Keller doubled in a pair.  MIT got a run back in the fourth but the WARHAWKS answered with two more in the bottom of the inning on doubles from  Michael Gonzalez and Dylan Friend.  MIT got those two back in the top of the sixth however Gonzalez singled in a run and Pierce singled in a pair in the bottom of the inning for the WARHAWKS.  MIT got another run in the top of the seventh.  The WARHAWKS rounded out the scoring with a two run home run from Gonzalez in the seventh and a RBI double from Steve Bartlien in the eighth.

Justin Lambert (3-1) pitched 6 innings giving up 3 runs (earned) on 8 hits while striking out 6 and walking a pair.  Gonzalez and Pierce finished the game with 3 hits apiece with 4 and 3 RBI respectively.  Friend and Jared Fon each had 2 hits and Keller finished with 2 RBI. 

The loss was MIT's first of the season.  The WARHAWKS will conclude their Florida trip with a game against Southern Maine tomorrow before returning home for a doublehitter (weather permitting) against Ripon Saturday.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: thrunt01 on March 27, 2013, 08:20:34 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 24, 2013, 06:21:36 PM
Quote from: thrunt01 on March 23, 2013, 11:00:45 AM
Record wise Oshkosh if off to a great start down in Florida but I will be the first to admit I have no idea how good the teams that they are playing are. Regardless wins are always better than losses.
The best team they played (Johns Hopkins) they lost to 6-5....  Although if not for a infiled pop up that landed between a pair of IF's was caught, they MAY have won and went 12-0 on the trip.

All in all, UWO has to be happy with how they played.  Their offense appears to be better than last season, even with Kamps missing a handful of games. I think the results of their first week of WIAC games (two at Stevens Point and four vs La Crosse) will tell us more about where this UWO team is (and what kind of depth they have) however.

Unfortunately who knows if/when the heck those games will be played with the snow and all that.  ??? :P
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 27, 2013, 08:54:37 PM
Southern Maine: 7
WARHAWKS: 1

Southern Maine jumped out to a 4-0 lead after two innings and never looked back.  The WARHAWKS got their run in the fourth when Steve Bartlien singled in Jared Fon who had singled to lead off the inning.  After stroking double figure hits with multiple extra base hits in the past few games the WARHAWKS were held to just six hits, all singles, and no one had more than one.  Tom Kerndt (2-1) took the loss going 7 innings giving up 9 hits and all 7 runs (3 earned) with a pair of strikeouts and a single base on balls. 

Already the statistically worst fielding team in the league the WARHAWKSl had 7 errors in this game. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 28, 2013, 01:41:17 PM
Quote from: thrunt01 on March 27, 2013, 08:20:34 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 24, 2013, 06:21:36 PM
Quote from: thrunt01 on March 23, 2013, 11:00:45 AM
Record wise Oshkosh if off to a great start down in Florida but I will be the first to admit I have no idea how good the teams that they are playing are. Regardless wins are always better than losses.
The best team they played (Johns Hopkins) they lost to 6-5....  Although if not for a infiled pop up that landed between a pair of IF's was caught, they MAY have won and went 12-0 on the trip.

All in all, UWO has to be happy with how they played.  Their offense appears to be better than last season, even with Kamps missing a handful of games. I think the results of their first week of WIAC games (two at Stevens Point and four vs La Crosse) will tell us more about where this UWO team is (and what kind of depth they have) however.

Unfortunately who knows if/when the heck those games will be played with the snow and all that.  ??? :P
I'd be willing to bet the the UWO/LAX series is played as scheduled....  Pretty good chance the UWO players are out working on the field shoveling, etc this week before/after practice...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 28, 2013, 03:40:49 PM
I've got a feeling the WARHAWKS may be doing the same thing.  Though the forecast is calling for rain on Saturday so it may not matter.  Also even if the field is cleared the frost is coming out of the ground which won't matter in the infield due to the artifical turf but could make footing an issue in the outfield.  I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

On an unrelated matter kudos to the WARHAWKS women's softball team which wrapped up their Florida trip today with a 12-0 record.    I've always been a baseball guy but having had two daughters who played I developed an interest in softball.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 30, 2013, 08:51:55 PM
The commissioner has established a rule to deal with the varying field conditions at different programs playing facilities.  I'll try to explain it but I've heard a couple of variations so I'm don't quote me.  I believe that this is the correct one.

I'll use this week's conference schedule for illustration purposes.

Platteville @ WHITEWATER
Stout @ LaCrosse
Oshkosh @ Stevens Point

Scenario 1:
WHITEWATER'S facility is in playable condition.
LaCrosse's facility is not
Stevens Point facility is not
In this scenario two of the three facilities are unplayable.   WHITEWATER and Platteville will not be allowed to play because the LaCrosse and Point facilities are unplayable.

Scenario 2:
In this scenario two of the three facilities are playable.  Both WHITEWATER'S and LaCrosse's facilities are playable but Point is not.  The WHITEWATER and Platteville as well as LaCrosse and Stout will be allowed to play.

So if two of the three facilities are unplayable no other conference games can be played.  If two (or obviously all three) are playable scheduled conference games can be played at those facilities. 

If necessary the conference tournament will be cancelled and the dates used to make up postponed games.  The winner of the conference's regular season schedule will earn the conference's automatic bid to the NCAA postseason tourney. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 30, 2013, 10:01:34 PM
WARHAWKS: 15
Ripon: 3

The WARHAWKS opened the scoring in the B3 with Dylan Friend's RBI single.  Ripon got on the board with a solo home run in the T4 but the WARHAWKS put the game away with 8 runs in the bottom of the inning.  Mike Mierow, David Cladis (2), Mikol Pierce, Sam Keller and Steve Bartlein all had RBI singles.  Additionally Jared Fon drove in a run with a sac fly and another run scored on a fielder's choice.  The WARHAWKS added three runs in the B5 with another RBI single from Friend and a run scoring on a wild pitch.  Ripon got another run in the T6 but the WARHAWKS matched it with another RBI on Keller's double.  Three more WARHAWKS runs were scored in the B7 on a double from Fon (2) and Marty Herum's RBI single.  Ripon ended the scoring with a single run in the T8.

Matt Roberts (3-0) got the win giving up 7 hits and 2 runs (earned) while striking out 9 and walking a pair in 6 innings.  Justin Mortenson pitched 2 innings giving up an unearned run and Brock Liston finished the game surrendering a hit in 1 inning of relief.

Every WARHAWKS  starter recorded a hit as the team pounded out 22 hits in the game.  Herum led the way going 4x5.  Friend, Fon and Bartlein each had 3 hits while Keller, Pierce, Mierow and Cladis each had a pair.  Friend and Fon drove in 3 runs and Keller and Cladis each had a pair.

WARHAWKS: 10
Ripon: 2

The WARHAWKS got on the board first with a pair of runs in the B2 on JT Schneider's RBI single and a fielders choice.  They added two more in the B4 when Schneider tripled and then scored on a wild pitch.  Ripon got a run with an RBI single in the T6 but the WARHAWKS scored four times in the bottom of the inning with a three run home run by Mikol Pierce and when Schneider doubled, stole third and scored when the Ripon catcher sailed the ball into left field.  Ripon added a single run in the T7.  The WARHAWKS ended the scoring with a pair in the bottom of the inning when Marty Herum's single drove in a run and Pierce's single drove Herum in. 

Scott Plaza (1-0) went 6 innings giving up a single run (earned) on 6 hits walking a pair and striking out one.  Curtis Morgan, Quintin Zander and Justin Lambert each pitched an inning of relief.  Each gave up a single hit.  Morgan surrendered and unearned run while Zander struck out two of the four batters faced and Lambert also recorded a strikeout.

Pierce led the 15 hit WARHAWKS attacked going 4x4 with 4 RBI.  Jared Fon and Schneider each had 3 hits while Mierow had a pair. 

The WARHAWKS record improves to 9-3 while Ripon's falls to 4-8
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 30, 2013, 10:50:03 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 30, 2013, 08:51:55 PM
The commissioner has established a rule to deal with the varying field conditions at different programs playing facilities.  I'll try to explain it but I've heard a couple of variations so I'm don't quote me.  I believe that this is the correct one.

I'll use this week's conference schedule for illustration purposes.

Platteville @ WHITEWATER
Stout @ LaCrosse
Oshkosh @ Stevens Point

Scenario 1:
WHITEWATER'S facility is in playable condition.
LaCrosse's facility is not
Stevens Point facility is not
In this scenario two of the three facilities are unplayable.   WHITEWATER and Platteville will not be allowed to play because the LaCrosse and Point facilities are unplayable.

Scenario 2:
In this scenario two of the three facilities are playable.  Both WHITEWATER'S and LaCrosse's facilities are playable but Point is not.  The WHITEWATER and Platteville as well as LaCrosse and Stout will be allowed to play.

So if two of the three facilities are unplayable no other conference games can be played.  If two (or obviously all three) are playable scheduled conference games can be played at those facilities. 

If necessary the conference tournament will be cancelled and the dates used to make up postponed games.  The winner of the conference's regular season schedule will earn the conference's automatic bid to the NCAA postseason tourney.

That. Is. Stupid.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 31, 2013, 11:12:15 AM
That was my reaction also.    I have no idea whether there was any input from the coaching staffs.  Our facility was in pretty good shape yesterday all things considered.  The outfield is a bit soft but I didn't notice anyone having problems.  A few days of wind should dry it out quite nicely. 

Bill, you seem to be pretty much on top of these things so maybe you could check with some of your sources to clarify anything I may have misstated.  Hopefully it won't come into play.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 03, 2013, 10:06:46 AM
New Developement:


UW-Whitewater's doubleheader versus UW-Superior, at Jim Miller Stadium at Prucha Field, originally set for Saturday at 12:00 has been changed.  As of Tuesday at 2:30 p.m., UW-Whitewater will host the Yellowjackets in a single game Friday at 6:00 p.m., and the teams will meet again for a single game at 4:00 Saturday.

The Whitewater-Superior doubleheader set for Sunday at 12:00 has not changed.

The changes are necessary because UW-Whitewater will host WIAC twinbills between UW-Platteville and UW-Stevens Point Friday and Saturday prior to the Whitewater-Superior games.  Other schools are having difficulty getting their fields in playing condition, so Whitewater's the artificial turf at Jim Miller Stadium at Prucha Field, and the lights made possible by Eric Baldwin, will accommodate the additional games.


Credit to the WHITEWATER sports information department from whom I have simply copied and pasted the above.

It's appears that there has been a modification made to the previously created rule.    The WARHAWKS/Platteville games scheduled for today will be played.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on April 03, 2013, 11:41:19 AM
I heard that there were contingency plans for six teams to play their 12 games in Whitewater from Friday thru Monday if necessary. Fortunately the field in Oshkosh looks good to go by Saturday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on April 03, 2013, 04:06:22 PM
I wonder if other artificial infield sites are ever considered in order to avoid a six team log jam over three days.  I know Sun Prairie and Waupun are a couple such high school fields this side of Milwaukee, assuming they're available to rent.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 03, 2013, 05:04:50 PM
WARHAWKS: 8
Platteville: 5

It was a rough start for the WARHAWKS as starting pitcher Tom Kerndt gave up 5 runs, all earned, in .2 innings allowing a pair of triples, a single, two hit batters and the WARHAWKS went down 1-2-3.  Scott Plaza relieved Kerndt and things settled down though the WARHAWKS weren't able to get on the board until the third  when Marty Herum singled in a pair.  The WARHAWKS scored two more in the fifth inning when David Cladis led off with a double, Michael Gonzalez followed with another double scoring Cladis and Jared Fon's double drove in Gonzalez.  Platteville nearly scored in the sixth but Herum was able to cut the runner down at the plate.  The WARHAWKS scored the winning run in seventh when Cladis led off with another double and was driven in by Fon's second double and a Herum triple drove in Fon.  The WARHAWKS ended the scoring with a pair of insurance runs on Mike Mierow's RBI single and a sac fly from Cladis in the eighth.

Plaza (2-0) pitched 8.1 innings in relief to pick up the win.  He was touched for 5 hits while walking and striking out single.
batters.

Herum led the offense going 3x4 with 3 RBIs.  Fon and Pierce each had a pair of hits with Fon driving in a pair  while Gonzalez, Mierow and Cladis each had a single RBI.


WARHAWKS: 4
Platteville: 3

The WARHAWKS jumped on top with a pair of runs in their first at bat.  Dylan Friend and Jared Fon both singled, both advanced on a wild pitch and both scored when Mikole Pierce singled.   After that neither team could push a run across the plate until the eighth.  The WARHAWKS threatened when they loaded the bases with one out in the seventh but the inning ended when the next two hitters grounded out.  Platteville got on the board and took a 3-2 lead in the eighth when the WARHAWKS pitching faultered.  The Pioneers led off the inning with a double and three consecutive walks brought the first run home.  A fourth walk brought another run home and a single scored the third run.  The WARHAWKS tied the game in the bottom of the inning when Steve Bartlein led off with a single and after a fielder's choice out two WARHAWKS were walked and Sam Keller lofted a sacrifice fly which scored Bartlein.  After the Pioneers went down 1-2-3 in the ninth the WARHAWKS got a double from Marty Herum, Pierce was intentionally walked, Bartlein singled to load the bases and Mike Mierow's single ended the game.

Justin Lambert started giving up a single run (earned) on 7 hits with 8 strikeouts and a pair of walks in 7 innings.  Matt Roberts relieved but struggled lasting only .1 inning  and giving up a pair of runs before Quinton Zander  (1-1) picked up the win allowing only a single hit with a pair of strikeouts in 1.2 innings.

Bartlein paced the 15 hit WARHAWKS offense going 5x5.  Cladis, Friend and Fon all recorded a pair of hits.  Pierce had a pair of RBI while Keller and Mierow each had one.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 04, 2013, 12:04:01 PM
A statistical look at the WIAC nationally (through 3/31):
Top 20

Hitting:
Batting Average: Stevens Point .361 (2), Oshkosh .350 (7), WHITEWATER .347 (9)
Scoring: Oshkosh 8.3 (17)
Doubles: WHITEWATER 2.92/game (5)
Triples: LaCrosse .083/game (3), Season: 10 (T13)
Home Runs: Superior .62/game
Slugging %: WHITEWATER .494 (3), Oshkosh .483 (5), Stevens Point .472 (11)

Pitching:
Earned Run Average: Oshkosh 1.78 (3), WHITEWATER 2.32 (11)
Strikeouts: Steven Point 8.5/game (18)
Hits Allowed: Oshkosh 6.43/game (2)
WHIP: Oshkosh 1.01 (2)

Fielding:
Double Plays: Oshkosh 1.17/game (7), Platteville 1.07/game (16)

Miscellaneous:
On Base %: Stevens Point .445 (5)
Won/Loss %: Oshkosh .917 (3)


Check this link to see where your team ranks compared to the national leaders:
http://web1.ncaa.org/stats/StatsSrv/ranksummary



Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 05, 2013, 10:43:40 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 07, 2013, 06:35:12 PM
I have platteville 3rd
If they do indeed end up 3rd, they will have climbed out of an early season hole, considering their 0-6 WIAC start.

I will say that the 0-6 start in WIAC play isn't as bad as it sounds, considering that four losses have come to Stevens Point and the other two against Whitewater.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 06, 2013, 10:37:28 AM
WARHAWKS: 7
Superior: 3

The WARHAWKS scored all the runs they would need in their first at bat when they pushed 5 runs across the plate.  Sam Keller was hit by a pitch to start the inning and was followed by Dylan Friend's single.   Both runners advanced on Jared Fon's bunt single and Keller scored the first run on a wild pitch.  Marty Herum reached first on a throwing error scoring Friend.  Mikole Pierce extended his hitting streak to nine games with a single which drove in Fon.  After Steve Bartein's sac bunt advanced both runners JT Schneider's sac fly scored Herum and Pierce scored two batters later when David Cladis singled.  The WARHAWKS scored two more in the sixth when another wild pitch scored Cladis and Herum had an RBI single.  Superior got a single run in the seventh on three hits and a sac fly and scored two more in the eighth to end the scoring in the game.

Quintin Zander (1-1) was credited with the win going 6.2 innings allowing 3 earned runs on 10 hits with a pair of strikeouts and walks.  Brock Liston relieved him allowing 2 hits and striking out 2 in 2.1 innings.

Friend and Bartlien each had a pair of hits in three at bats.  Marty Herum had a pair of RBI while Pierce, Schneider and Cladis each drove in a run.

I'm not sure of the scores but Point did win both ends of their double hitter with Platteville.  I think the scores were 7-3 and 14-3 but I didn't look them up to be certain. 

It was pretty cold for our game.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2013, 11:58:57 AM
WARHAWKS: 17
Superior: 7

As they had on Friday the WARHAWKS jumped on top scoring five runs in their first at bat.  Michael Gonzalez reached base on an error and was followed by Dylan Friend's double and Jared Fon's infield single to load the bases.   Marty Herum and Mikole Pierce both walked forcing the first two runs across the plate.  Steve Bartein's sac fly brought in another run.  After JT Schneider also drew a walk Mike Mierow singled driving in a pair.  Superior answered with three runs in the third with three consecutive singles and a triple.  After the WARHAWKS were retired 1-2-3 in the bottom of the inning the Yellow Jackets took a 7-5 lead on a triple, a single and another single misplayed into a three base error.  The WARHAWKS regained the lead 9-7 in the fifth with an RBI single from Schneider and a three run home run off Mierow's bat.  Dylan Friend led the sixth inning off with a solo home run.  After Fon was walked Herum doubled and Pierce singled driving in Fon.  After an out Schneider doubled down the line driving in both Herum and Pierce.  After another out David Cladis was walked and stole second setting the stage for Friend's single driving in both Schneider and Cladis however Friend was thrown out at second attempting to stretch the single into an extra base hit and the score stood 15-7.  The Yellow Jackets went down in order in the seventh and the WARHAWKS ended the game by the run rule with back to back solo shots from Fon and Herum. 

Justin Mortenson started the game but left after 3.1 innings having given up 7 runs (5 earned) on 9 hits with 4 strikeouts and a pair of walks.  He was relieved by Curtis Martin (1-0).  The freshman only surrendered a single hit while striking out 3 in 3.2 innings on the mound.

Friend and Fon led the 16 hit WARHAWKS offense with 3 hits apiece. Herum, Pierce and Schneider each had two hits.  Friend and Herum each hit doubles and home runs while Bartlein and Schneider hit doubles and Fon and Mierow had home runs.  Pierce extended his hitting streak to 10 games.  Friend, Schneider and Mierow all had 3 RBI.  Herum, Pierce, Schneider and Cladis drove in a pair apiece.  Fon and Bartlein each drove in one. 

Point beat Platteville twice by 6-2 and 5-4 scores.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 08, 2013, 10:31:09 AM
WARHAWKS: 7
Superior: 5

Unlike the two previous games this time it was the Yellow Jackets who jumped out to an early 3-0 lead with a pair of singles and a walk followed by a triple in their first at bat.  The WARHAWKS got one run back when Dylan Friend homered in the B3 and tied the game with two runs on Steve Bartlein's RBI sac fly and Mike Mierow's RBI single.  Superior was quick to answer regaining the lead with a pair of runs in the T4 but the WARHAWKS were just as quick to respond and take a 6-5 lead with an RBI double by Mikole Pierce and Bartlein's single which drove in a pair of runs in the bottom of the inning.  After neither team scored in the sixth and the Yellow Jackets were retired in order in the T7 Marty Herum gave the WARHAWKS an insurance run with a solo shot which ended the scoring.  The Yellow Jackets made the ninth interesting however as the first three batters singled to load the bases with no outs before Colin Grove settled down striking out the next two batters and ending the game on an infield ground out.

Matt Roberts (4-0) got the win pitching eight complete allowing all 5 runs (earned) while surrendering 6 hits with 8 strikeouts and 4 walks.  Grove was credited with a save.

Friend and Herum each had 3 hits and Pierce extended his hitting streak to 11 games with a pair of hits.  Bartlein had a pair of RBI while Friend, Herum, Pierce and Mierow all had one.


WARHAWKS: 11
Superior: 8

For the third time in four games it was the WARHAWKS who took the early lead with a pair of runs in the first and three in the second.  Marty Heum's two run home run accounted for the first two and Mike Mierow's RBI sac fly coupled with RBI singles by Dylan Friend and Jared Fon accounted for the second inning runs.  However the Yellow Jackets stormed back with five runs tying the game in the third.  Andrew Bauer's RBI double regained the lead for the WARHAWKS and another RBI single by Friend put them in front 7-5 in the B4.  Superior once again rose to the occassion tying the game with two runs in the sixth and took their first lead in the game 8-7 with a run in the eighth.  Bauer and Friend both walked to lead off the B8 and both advanced a base on Jared Fon's sac bunt.  A balk call brought Bauer across the plate to tie the game.  After Herum was intentionally walked and Pierce unintentionally walked Steve Bartlein's single drove in both Friend and Herum.  JT Schneider followed that with a RBI sac bunt to score Pierce.  The Yellow Jackets did put two runners on base in the ninth but Tom Kerndt struck out the side to end the game.

Justin Lambert started pitching 5 innings giving up 5 runs (4 earned) allowing 8 hits and walking 1.  Cody Steed (1-0) picked up the win with 3 innings of relief allowing 3 runs (1 earned) on 5 hits with 2 strikeouts and 1 walk.  Kerndt was credited with a save in his one inning on the mound allowing a pair of hits with 3 strikeouts.

Friend, Fon, Bartlein and Schneider each had a pair of hits.  Herum's home run extended his hitting streak to 10 games though Mikole Pierce's streak was broken.  Bartlein and Friend each had a pair of RBI while Bauer, Fon, Herum, Schneider and Mierow all drove in single runs. 

     

 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 08, 2013, 07:09:59 PM
Safe to assume Oshksoh and La Crosse are only getting three games in?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 08, 2013, 07:51:25 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 08, 2013, 07:09:59 PM
Safe to assume Oshksoh and La Crosse are only getting three games in?
Unfortunately. Didn't get started until 2:15 today. The hitters certainly took advantage of the favorable conditions at Tiedemann. It was a laser show at times in those three games.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 08, 2013, 08:44:16 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on April 08, 2013, 07:51:25 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 08, 2013, 07:09:59 PM
Safe to assume Oshksoh and La Crosse are only getting three games in?
Unfortunately. Didn't get started until 2:15 today. The hitters certainly took advantage of the favorable conditions at Tiedemann. It was a laser show at times in those three games.
Looking at some of the box scores so far this season, I was starting to think that maybe there have been some advances in the BBCOR bats.  Maybe it is just a combination of weather conditions, pitching, and betters hitters across the board!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 08, 2013, 09:16:20 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 08, 2013, 08:44:16 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on April 08, 2013, 07:51:25 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 08, 2013, 07:09:59 PM
Safe to assume Oshksoh and La Crosse are only getting three games in?
Unfortunately. Didn't get started until 2:15 today. The hitters certainly took advantage of the favorable conditions at Tiedemann. It was a laser show at times in those three games.
Looking at some of the box scores so far this season, I was starting to think that maybe there have been some advances in the BBCOR bats.  Maybe it is just a combination of weather conditions, pitching, and betters hitters across the board!!!
Oshkosh actually had a bat malfunction today when the cap popped off.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 08, 2013, 10:10:18 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on April 08, 2013, 09:16:20 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 08, 2013, 08:44:16 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on April 08, 2013, 07:51:25 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 08, 2013, 07:09:59 PM
Safe to assume Oshksoh and La Crosse are only getting three games in?
Unfortunately. Didn't get started until 2:15 today. The hitters certainly took advantage of the favorable conditions at Tiedemann. It was a laser show at times in those three games.
Looking at some of the box scores so far this season, I was starting to think that maybe there have been some advances in the BBCOR bats.  Maybe it is just a combination of weather conditions, pitching, and betters hitters across the board!!!
Oshkosh actually had a bat malfunction today when the cap popped off.
I'd be real curious to see what the players think about the BBCOR bats this year compared to the past.  Maybe worth an "Around the Nation" article?   ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on April 08, 2013, 11:51:47 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on April 08, 2013, 07:51:25 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 08, 2013, 07:09:59 PM
Safe to assume Oshksoh and La Crosse are only getting three games in?
Unfortunately. Didn't get started until 2:15 today. . .
Considering the 2:15 start and a 6:45-ish cutoff without lights,  I was expecting two 7 inning games instead of the "Let's play 9, then see if we have time for a second game."
Is there some WIAC policy against playing 7 if necessary?
If one of the teams ends the season 1/2 game behind the league champion and the tournament is scrapped for the weather make-ups, that would be a tough way to go.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on April 09, 2013, 10:04:07 PM
Sounds like a goods idea not implemented.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 09, 2013, 10:08:47 PM
Former UW-Stevens Point baseball player Tim Schlosser set the bar pretty high for the rest of us with his wedding proposal (http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/202016891.html?fb_action_ids=10200395861712504&fb_action_types=og.recommends#bctid-ANV_326852). You know it's a good one when it makes the local news. Love + serendipity = Awwww.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 10, 2013, 01:52:51 PM
Anyone going to WIAC games from now until the end of the season would be wise to bring baseball gear because you may be called upon to pitch. All teams have a difficult sprint to the finish. Here's the UW Oshkosh scenario:

12 WIAC nines over the next 12 days (4/13-24)
Find days to make up four nines against UW-Stevens Point
Four more WIAC nines on 5/3-4

If the WIAC calendar remains the same and there's a postseason tournament, that's 20 nine-inning conference games in 22 days.

Oshkosh has it better some. UW-Stout still hasn't played a WIAC game, and UW-La Crosse may not get three of its WIAC games in (Stout DH, one against Oshkosh). The "good" news for UWO is that the rest of its regular season games are now at home [Edit: besides the TBD UWSP series].

The physical challenges are obvious, but the toughest team mentally may emerge as the winner. Welcome to the big leagues, WIAC.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on April 10, 2013, 08:18:50 PM
No way they play this week.  No way.   :'(
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 11, 2013, 09:25:19 AM
From what I am being told the Point/WARHAWKS series will be played in WHITEWATER this weekend.  Saturday is looking pretty good with only a 20% chance of rain though temperatures are only expected to reach a high of 45.  The temperature on Sunday is expected to reach in the upper 50's but the chance of rain increases to 40%.  Regardless I expect that we'll be able to complete the games.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 12, 2013, 11:14:09 PM
Quote from: AppletonRocks on April 10, 2013, 08:18:50 PM
No way they play this week.  No way.   :'(
While you may end up being correct, games won't be canceled/postponed in Oshkosh because of lack of effort getting the fields ready.  I'd be willing to bet there will be UWO players there early in the morning working on the field trying to get it ready to be played on.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 13, 2013, 01:06:24 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 12, 2013, 11:14:09 PM
Quote from: AppletonRocks on April 10, 2013, 08:18:50 PM
No way they play this week.  No way.   :'(
While you may end up being correct, games won't be canceled/postponed in Oshkosh because of lack of effort getting the fields ready.  I'd be willing to bet there will be UWO players there early in the morning working on the field trying to get it ready to be played on.
Game #1 starts as scheduled in Oshkosh and UWO defeats Stout 15-1 in 7 innings due to mercy rule. 
-Kachel and Kamps with three hits apiece, while Swift and Peterson each add a pair of hits.  Beattie and Kachel each homer and drive in four runs.  Swindles with the CG victory, giving up just one run on four hits while striking out eight. 

Game #2 to goes to Stout, as they hang on for a 7-6 victory .

Game #1 starts on schedule in Whitewater.  Point jumps out to an early 2-0 lead, only to see Whitewater score two in the seventh and one in the eighth, and two in the ninth to win 5-2. Friend and Herum each with a pair of hits to lead the Warhawks, with Herum banging out his fourth HR of the season.  Kerndt scatters seven hits in 7.2 innings giving up two runs (one earned) while striking out four and walking two to pick up the victory.

Game #2 goes to Whitewater as well, as they pick up a 5-3 victory.

Platteville and Superior started at 1:00 pm as scheduled....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 8404DOC on April 13, 2013, 11:10:41 PM
Sindles got the win in game one for Oshkosh not Swindles. Just saying!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 14, 2013, 11:28:57 AM
WARHAWKS: 5
Stevens Point: 2

The Pointers opened the scoring with an unearned run in their first at bat when Douglas, who had reached base on an error, was driven home by a two out single from Barnes.  Douglas also scored the Pointers second run in the B5 when he singled and was driven in by Schilter's double.  The WARHAWKS got on the board in the T7 when Marty Herum led off the inning with a solo home run.  Mikole Pierce followed a double, advanced to third on Steve Barlein's sac bunt and scored on a wild pitch.  After the Pointers were retired 1-2-3 in their at bat Dylan Friend opened the eighth with a triple and scored the winning run when Jared Fon hit a sac fly.  The WARHAWKS added two insurance runs in the ninth when Fon had another sac fly and Herum's single drove in a run.  The Pointers threatened in both the eighth and ninth innings putting runners in scoring position but were unable to capitalize.

Tom Kerndt (3-1) pitched a solid 7.2 innings allowing 2 runs (1 earned) on 7 hits while striking out 4 with a pair of walks.  Curtis Morgan finished the final 1.2 innings allowing just a single hit facing just 5 batters.

Friend and Herum both had a pair of hits. Herum and Fon each had a pair of RBI.

Feyereisen took the loss for the Pointers.  Schilter had a pair of hits and an RBI.  Barnes also had an RBI.


WARHAWKS: 5
Stevens Point: 3

The WARHAWKS got on the board first with a single run in the second inning.  Marty Herum drew a walk and scored when Steve Bartlein doubled.  The WARHAWKS got another run in the third though it could have been a much bigger inning as they had loaded the bases with none out.  The Pointers however dodged the bullet when they turned Jared Fon's infield ground out into a double play, though it drove in David Cladis, and struck out Marty Herum.  The WARHAWKS added a single run in the sixth inning when Herum led off with a single and advanced into scoring position when Mikole Pierce drew a walk.  JT Schneider drove in Herum two batters later with an RBI single.  The Pointers got their first run in the seventh.  Gerber led off with a double and scored after a pair of infield ground outs.  The WARHAWKS answered that run with two in the eighth.  Herum singled to lead off the inning and Pierce followed with a two run home run.  However the Pointers made the ninth interesting with four hits.  Douglas led off with a double and after a fly out Gerber doubled driving in Douglas.  Coady singled moving Gerber to third and Barnes' sac fly scored Gerber.  Coady stole second and advanced to third on when Gregorich singled moving Coady to third but the WARHAWKS Brock Liston struck out Kranz to end the game.

Justin Lambert (4-1) went 8.2 innings giving up 9 hits, 3 earned runs with 3 strikeouts to pick up the win.  Liston was credited with his first save of the season.

Herum, Barlein and Schneider each had a pair of hits.  Pierce had a pair of RBI and Bartlien had an RBI.

Herbst took the loss for the Pointers.  Gerber had 3 hits, all doubles, to lead the Pointers while Barnes had a pair of RBI. 


Today's double hitter has been reduced to a single game with the start time moved from noon to 1 pm. 

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 14, 2013, 02:55:07 PM
Stout vs Oshkosh DH postponed to Monday....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 14, 2013, 06:34:39 PM
Point and Whitewater currently 4-4 in the Top of the 19th inning!!! :o :o :o


EDIT-Point wins 5-4 in 19 innings, scoring the winning run on a wild pitch with two outs....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 14, 2013, 07:29:58 PM
All I can say is wow and hopefully wendorf and prebelski will continue to pitch like that.  Will they play game 4 tomorrow or under the lights tonight?  I'm assuming Frederick goes for point.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 14, 2013, 07:36:41 PM
Ok I here I thought prebelski went 8 or 9 but come to find out stroik pitched 7 strong.  Either way I wish I would've witnessed this game in person.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 14, 2013, 08:28:28 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 14, 2013, 07:29:58 PM
All I can say is wow and hopefully wendorf and prebelski will continue to pitch like that.  Will they play game 4 tomorrow or under the lights tonight?  I'm assuming Frederick goes for point.
Game #4 goes to Whitewater 6-5....

Looks like badgerwarhawk either got some incorrect information or the single game plan was only in case of inclement weather...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: GBMAN on April 15, 2013, 12:38:19 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 14, 2013, 07:36:41 PM
Ok I here I thought prebelski went 8 or 9 but come to find out stroik pitched 7 strong.  Either way I wish I would've witnessed this game in person.

I was there for the 19 inning game...#epic
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 15, 2013, 12:07:21 PM
My bad, I misunderstood the message I'd received.  Actually it kind of made sense taking the expected weather pattern into account.  Fortunately not a drop of rain fell during either game. 

WARHAWKS: 4
Stevens Point: 5
19 innings, 5 hours & 20 minutes

The WARHAWKS scored first with an RBI double by Marty Herum.  But the Pointers answered quickly and took the lead with three runs in the bottom of the inning aided by a pair of walks and two fluke infield singles.  David Cladis' RBI single in the next at bat closed the gap to 3-2 and that score held until an infield error by the Pointers allowed Mike Mierow to score in the B4.  Despite several opportunities neither team could score until the B8 when the Pointers pushed a run across.  This was an interesting situation because with bases loaded Gerber was picked off at first and the run scored when Rose was able to beat the throw home after Gerber had been chased toward second before being tagged out.  In that situation Gerber had no where to go and all that would have been necessary was to hold the ball at first and wait.  The game could have come to a complete stand still but Gerber eventually would have had to return to first or you would have two runner occuping second.  It was an odd situation compounded by the bases being loaded.    The WARHAWKS tied the game once again with an RBI single by Dylan Friend in the B8.  Though both teams had several oppotunities neither was able to score until Point loaded the bases and scored on a wild pitch in the B19.

164 batters came to the plate and the two teams combined for 34 hits stranding 42 baserunners.  The game was a record breaker for both programs in terms of innings played. 

Matt Roberts started for the WARHAWKS giving up 4 earned runs on 10 hits while striking out 9 and walking 5 in 7.1 innings.  Qunitin Zander and Curtis Morgan each pitched 4.2 shutout innings while allowing only 3 hits striking out 4 and walking a pair.  Colin Grove (0-1) took the loss allowing an earned run, 3 hits and 1 walk in the final two innings.

Marty Herum led all hitters with 4 hits.  Friend, Fon, Pierce, Bartlein, Schneider and Cladis each had a pair of hits.  Friend, Herum and Cladis each had a single RBI.

Schliter and Gerber had 3 hits apiece to lead the Pointers.  Storik got the win with 7 shut out innings of relief.   Congrats to coach Bloom on #300.  He's really done a good job with the Pointers program.


WARHAWKS: 6
Stevens Point: 5

Riding the momentum gained after the dramatic finish to the first game the Pointers struck for a pair of runs in their first at bat on a single by Barnes.  They added two more runs to go up 4-0 in the B3 when Gerber doubled in a pair.  After 14 scoreless innings the WARHAWKS erupted for 4 runs in T5 all of which scored with two outs.  Jared Fon singled with one out and stole second base.  Marty Herum grounded out for the second out but Mikole Pierce followed that with an RBI single.  After Steve Bartlein singled JT Schneider doubled driving in both Pierce and Bartlein and Mike Mierow reached base on a throwing error which allowed Schneider to score the fourth run.  After the Pointers were retired in order in the bottom of the inning the WARHAWKS put two more runs on the board once again after two outs.  Michael Gonzales led off the inning with a HBP and advanced to second on a wild pitch.  Dylan Friend drew a walk and after two outs Pierce was walked loading the bases for Bartlein who singled driving in Gonzales and Friend.  Scott Plaza faced only 13 batters over the next four innings but the Pointers got to him in their last at bat when 4 singles drove in a run and loaded the bases with one out.  Justin Mortensen relieved Plaza getting the second out on one pitch and the third out on a fielder's choice ground ball which forced the runner at second. 

Plaza (3-0) was the winner pitching 8.1 innings with 10 hits and 5 earned runs while striking out 5 and walking a single hitter.  Mortensen was credited with a save.

Fon, Bartlein and Schneider each had a pair of hits and a pair of RBI.  Herum's 13 game hitting streak was broken. 

Schliter, Barnes and Gregorich each had 2 hits for the Pointers while Barnes and Gerber each had 2 RBI.  Max Frederick took the loss going 7 innings.     

While I would have preferred wining all four going 3-1 was the second best outcome and you won't hear me complaining about it one bit.  All four games were closely contested and not over until the final out was recorded.  Well, the 19 inning game wasn't exactly but despite it's duration was interesting though judging by the number of people who left at some point during the extra innings I think you may have had to be a parent or baseball junkie to sit it out.

       
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 15, 2013, 07:08:10 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 14, 2013, 02:55:07 PM
Stout vs Oshkosh DH postponed to Monday....
Oshkosh sweeps Stout today winning 5-2 and 16-13 to take 3 out of 4 in the series...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 16, 2013, 10:17:54 AM
It appears that the Stout/WARHAWKS series will be played in WHITEWATER.  As was the case with the Point series the WARHAWKS will be the visiting team. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 17, 2013, 10:31:10 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 16, 2013, 10:17:54 AM
It appears that the Stout/WARHAWKS series will be played in WHITEWATER.  As was the case with the Point series the WARHAWKS will be the visiting team.

The WIAC should consider having the conference tournament somewhere other than Whitewater in light of these changes. Regardless of who is the home team designee, being able to play 8 extra home games in the league is quite an advantage.

And then Whitewater is hosting a regional too...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 17, 2013, 10:43:12 PM
How about lacrosse getting swept by superior?  Superior played whitewater rather tough too.  Is there chance they take 2nd in conference?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 17, 2013, 11:39:51 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 17, 2013, 10:43:12 PM
How about lacrosse getting swept by superior?  Superior played whitewater rather tough too.  Is there chance they take 2nd in conference?
So you thinking Superior second and Platteville third yet?  ;D

Three hour rain delay didn't help La Crosse, as Effertz was "burned" for the day after just two plus innings (although it didn't appear he had his best stuff anyway.)

Ultimately, it will all come down to what Superior does in nine day stretch when they play 10 games against Stevens Point (4), Oshkosh (4), and La Crosse (2.)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 18, 2013, 07:21:27 AM
Kind of sucks that the Oshkosh whitewater game got delayed as it appeared Oshkosh was playing rather well.  Does anyone know if nick Douglas will make an impact for point?  I see he hasn't played college ball for a while but I'm guessing he still has it.  Good thing he was finally ruled eligible. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 18, 2013, 10:02:38 AM
Quote from: Spence on April 17, 2013, 10:31:10 PM
The WIAC should consider having the conference tournament somewhere other than Whitewater in light of these changes. Regardless of who is the home team designee, being able to play 8 extra home games in the league is quite an advantage.

And then Whitewater is hosting a regional too...
Quote from: Spence on April 17, 2013, 10:31:10 PM


Unless the weather pattern changes significantly and teams can make up all of these postponed games there is a distinct possibility that there won't be a conference tournament.  I won't argue that there isn't an advantage to playing at home, even as the visiting team, but the alternative is not to play at all.  If you can explain to me how that benefits any of the programs I'm willing to have an open mind.  Stevens Point, Platteville (vs. Stevens Point), Superior and now Stout all seem to feel that it's better to play on the road than not play at all.   Also this is a whole lot better than the original plan created by the commissioner's office.   

Until some other program upgrades their baseball facility, particularly by adding lights, we will most likely continue to have the best shot at hosting the regional.  You can't run the regional without lights.  Perhaps when LaCrosse starts playing in the Loggers' stadium they'll bid to host.   Oshkosh has hosted in the past but they use a high school field which is functional but leaves something to be desired.  Also keep in mind that you have to bid well before you know whether you'll be a participant.  Alot of effort and planning are involved which is rather tedious if you're not one of the teams involved.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 18, 2013, 11:17:28 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 18, 2013, 07:21:27 AM
Kind of sucks that the Oshkosh whitewater game got delayed as it appeared Oshkosh was playing rather well.
The one advantage Oshkosh had yesterday was that they had a starting pitcher on the mound that was on full rest while Whitewater had a pitcher that had just thrown five innings on Sunday.  Now with the additional rain-outs, that advantage is likely a "wash" (no pun intended!!  ;D) unless of course Pavlovich doesn't throw over the weekend against Superior.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 18, 2013, 12:33:27 PM
Oshkosh still has one advantage....3-0  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 18, 2013, 01:47:59 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 18, 2013, 10:02:38 AM
Quote from: Spence on April 17, 2013, 10:31:10 PM
The WIAC should consider having the conference tournament somewhere other than Whitewater in light of these changes. Regardless of who is the home team designee, being able to play 8 extra home games in the league is quite an advantage.

And then Whitewater is hosting a regional too...
Quote from: Spence on April 17, 2013, 10:31:10 PM


Unless the weather pattern changes significantly and teams can make up all of these postponed games there is a distinct possibility that there won't be a conference tournament.  I won't argue that there isn't an advantage to playing at home, even as the visiting team, but the alternative is not to play at all.  If you can explain to me how that benefits any of the programs I'm willing to have an open mind.  Stevens Point, Platteville (vs. Stevens Point), Superior and now Stout all seem to feel that it's better to play on the road than not play at all.   Also this is a whole lot better than the original plan created by the commissioner's office.   

Until some other program upgrades their baseball facility, particularly by adding lights, we will most likely continue to have the best shot at hosting the regional.  You can't run the regional without lights.  Perhaps when LaCrosse starts playing in the Loggers' stadium they'll bid to host.   Oshkosh has hosted in the past but they use a high school field which is functional but leaves something to be desired.  Also keep in mind that you have to bid well before you know whether you'll be a participant.  Alot of effort and planning are involved which is rather tedious if you're not one of the teams involved.

Oh I know all that. To me the worst thing would be that there's no conference tournament. I'd prefer an expanded conference tournament with an incomplete league schedule to that, because of how many teams are giving up home games. At least in a tournament everyone's got the same obstacles.

I don't have any issue with Whitewater hosting the regional. I think the regional should be at the best place for the players. Unfortunately, it doesn't work out that way all the time. It's just if it was to happen that they barely have to leave home in the regular season, host the tournament, then host the regional...that would be ridiculous.

Not sure why they don't play on a neutral field somewhere than playing on Whitewater's home field. Teams play on whatever they can find in Florida -- I've seen teams play on a skin infield at a high school.

Maybe they could play on Lambeau Field -- they've got undersoil heating there! :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 18, 2013, 03:32:28 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 18, 2013, 12:33:27 PM
Oshkosh still has one advantage....3-0  ;)
Did UWO have to give one back? No wonder UWW is so tough to beat. I kid, BW ... but I left when it was 4-0 and a freshman on second base after his second double to left in three innings.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 18, 2013, 03:36:45 PM
Quote from: Spence on April 18, 2013, 01:47:59 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 18, 2013, 10:02:38 AM
Quote from: Spence on April 17, 2013, 10:31:10 PM
The WIAC should consider having the conference tournament somewhere other than Whitewater in light of these changes. Regardless of who is the home team designee, being able to play 8 extra home games in the league is quite an advantage.

And then Whitewater is hosting a regional too...
Quote from: Spence on April 17, 2013, 10:31:10 PM


Unless the weather pattern changes significantly and teams can make up all of these postponed games there is a distinct possibility that there won't be a conference tournament.  I won't argue that there isn't an advantage to playing at home, even as the visiting team, but the alternative is not to play at all.  If you can explain to me how that benefits any of the programs I'm willing to have an open mind.  Stevens Point, Platteville (vs. Stevens Point), Superior and now Stout all seem to feel that it's better to play on the road than not play at all.   Also this is a whole lot better than the original plan created by the commissioner's office.   

Until some other program upgrades their baseball facility, particularly by adding lights, we will most likely continue to have the best shot at hosting the regional.  You can't run the regional without lights.  Perhaps when LaCrosse starts playing in the Loggers' stadium they'll bid to host.   Oshkosh has hosted in the past but they use a high school field which is functional but leaves something to be desired.  Also keep in mind that you have to bid well before you know whether you'll be a participant.  Alot of effort and planning are involved which is rather tedious if you're not one of the teams involved.

Oh I know all that. To me the worst thing would be that there's no conference tournament. I'd prefer an expanded conference tournament with an incomplete league schedule to that, because of how many teams are giving up home games. At least in a tournament everyone's got the same obstacles.

I don't have any issue with Whitewater hosting the regional. I think the regional should be at the best place for the players. Unfortunately, it doesn't work out that way all the time. It's just if it was to happen that they barely have to leave home in the regular season, host the tournament, then host the regional...that would be ridiculous.

Not sure why they don't play on a neutral field somewhere than playing on Whitewater's home field. Teams play on whatever they can find in Florida -- I've seen teams play on a skin infield at a high school.

Maybe they could play on Lambeau Field -- they've got undersoil heating there! :)
Now you like conference tourneys? You're making it hard for me to keep up with your opinions ;). You want the tourney played but the winner doesn't make regionals automatically, right?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 18, 2013, 03:41:03 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on April 18, 2013, 03:32:28 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 18, 2013, 12:33:27 PM
Oshkosh still has one advantage....3-0  ;)
Did UWO have to give one back? No wonder UWW is so tough to beat. I kid, BW ... but I left when it was 4-0 and a freshman on second base after his second double to left in three innings.
Nice to see an Oshkosh kid stay home for a change!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 18, 2013, 04:21:43 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on April 18, 2013, 03:32:28 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 18, 2013, 12:33:27 PM
Oshkosh still has one advantage....3-0  ;)
Did UWO have to give one back? No wonder UWW is so tough to beat. I kid, BW ... but I left when it was 4-0 and a freshman on second base after his second double to left in three innings.


Oops my memory, as it so often does, failed me. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on April 18, 2013, 08:51:56 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 18, 2013, 04:21:43 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on April 18, 2013, 03:32:28 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 18, 2013, 12:33:27 PM
Oshkosh still has one advantage....3-0  ;)
Did UWO have to give one back? No wonder UWW is so tough to beat. I kid, BW ... but I left when it was 4-0 and a freshman on second base after his second double to left in three innings.


Oops my memory, as it so often does, failed me.

Too many nights at Mitchells will do that to you.  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 19, 2013, 10:48:51 AM
Earlier someone had wondered if conference games could be played as 7 inning contests rather than 9 innings.  According to the WARHAWKS website the WARHAWKS and Titans will do just that next Wednesday.  I'm not sure whether the suspended game will be 7 innings but after it's conclusion the two teams are scheduled to play three 7 inning games to conclude the series. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 19, 2013, 11:28:27 AM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on April 18, 2013, 03:36:45 PM
Quote from: Spence on April 18, 2013, 01:47:59 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 18, 2013, 10:02:38 AM
Quote from: Spence on April 17, 2013, 10:31:10 PM
The WIAC should consider having the conference tournament somewhere other than Whitewater in light of these changes. Regardless of who is the home team designee, being able to play 8 extra home games in the league is quite an advantage.

And then Whitewater is hosting a regional too...
Quote from: Spence on April 17, 2013, 10:31:10 PM


Unless the weather pattern changes significantly and teams can make up all of these postponed games there is a distinct possibility that there won't be a conference tournament.  I won't argue that there isn't an advantage to playing at home, even as the visiting team, but the alternative is not to play at all.  If you can explain to me how that benefits any of the programs I'm willing to have an open mind.  Stevens Point, Platteville (vs. Stevens Point), Superior and now Stout all seem to feel that it's better to play on the road than not play at all.   Also this is a whole lot better than the original plan created by the commissioner's office.   

Until some other program upgrades their baseball facility, particularly by adding lights, we will most likely continue to have the best shot at hosting the regional.  You can't run the regional without lights.  Perhaps when LaCrosse starts playing in the Loggers' stadium they'll bid to host.   Oshkosh has hosted in the past but they use a high school field which is functional but leaves something to be desired.  Also keep in mind that you have to bid well before you know whether you'll be a participant.  Alot of effort and planning are involved which is rather tedious if you're not one of the teams involved.

Oh I know all that. To me the worst thing would be that there's no conference tournament. I'd prefer an expanded conference tournament with an incomplete league schedule to that, because of how many teams are giving up home games. At least in a tournament everyone's got the same obstacles.

I don't have any issue with Whitewater hosting the regional. I think the regional should be at the best place for the players. Unfortunately, it doesn't work out that way all the time. It's just if it was to happen that they barely have to leave home in the regular season, host the tournament, then host the regional...that would be ridiculous.

Not sure why they don't play on a neutral field somewhere than playing on Whitewater's home field. Teams play on whatever they can find in Florida -- I've seen teams play on a skin infield at a high school.

Maybe they could play on Lambeau Field -- they've got undersoil heating there! :)
Now you like conference tourneys? You're making it hard for me to keep up with your opinions ;). You want the tourney played but the winner doesn't make regionals automatically, right?

I think if you're going to give someone an automatic berth they should have to at least leave home a couple times to do it. I feel bad for Stevens Point -- I feel like if they had played at home they might have at least gotten a split. Most of the games were pretty close even on the road.

Looks like we may get some pretty good melting this weekend, so maybe after this weekend it won't be an issue except for maybe Superior.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 19, 2013, 11:47:06 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 19, 2013, 10:48:51 AM
Earlier someone had wondered if conference games could be played as 7 inning contests rather than 9 innings.  According to the WARHAWKS website the WARHAWKS and Titans will do just that next Wednesday.  I'm not sure whether the suspended game will be 7 innings but after it's conclusion the two teams are scheduled to play three 7 inning games to conclude the series.

On the plus side, anyone who shows up at the game and brings their glove may get a chance to pitch by the time they get to the fourth game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on April 19, 2013, 11:48:35 AM
Quote from: Spence on April 18, 2013, 01:47:59 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 18, 2013, 10:02:38 AM
Quote from: Spence on April 17, 2013, 10:31:10 PM
The WIAC should consider having the conference tournament somewhere other than Whitewater in light of these changes. Regardless of who is the home team designee, being able to play 8 extra home games in the league is quite an advantage.

And then Whitewater is hosting a regional too...
Quote from: Spence on April 17, 2013, 10:31:10 PM


Unless the weather pattern changes significantly and teams can make up all of these postponed games there is a distinct possibility that there won't be a conference tournament.  I won't argue that there isn't an advantage to playing at home, even as the visiting team, but the alternative is not to play at all.  If you can explain to me how that benefits any of the programs I'm willing to have an open mind.  Stevens Point, Platteville (vs. Stevens Point), Superior and now Stout all seem to feel that it's better to play on the road than not play at all.   Also this is a whole lot better than the original plan created by the commissioner's office.   

Until some other program upgrades their baseball facility, particularly by adding lights, we will most likely continue to have the best shot at hosting the regional.  You can't run the regional without lights.  Perhaps when LaCrosse starts playing in the Loggers' stadium they'll bid to host.   Oshkosh has hosted in the past but they use a high school field which is functional but leaves something to be desired.  Also keep in mind that you have to bid well before you know whether you'll be a participant.  Alot of effort and planning are involved which is rather tedious if you're not one of the teams involved.

Oh I know all that. To me the worst thing would be that there's no conference tournament. I'd prefer an expanded conference tournament with an incomplete league schedule to that, because of how many teams are giving up home games. At least in a tournament everyone's got the same obstacles.

I don't have any issue with Whitewater hosting the regional. I think the regional should be at the best place for the players. Unfortunately, it doesn't work out that way all the time. It's just if it was to happen that they barely have to leave home in the regular season, host the tournament, then host the regional...that would be ridiculous.

Not sure why they don't play on a neutral field somewhere than playing on Whitewater's home field. Teams play on whatever they can find in Florida -- I've seen teams play on a skin infield at a high school.

Maybe they could play on Lambeau Field -- they've got undersoil heating there! :)

Some years back I went to see Jordan Zimmerman out pitch the Titans at Wisconsin Rapids.  It felt like a Point home game and the field was just okay, but it was a "neutral site" for those of you that are worried about that. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on April 19, 2013, 08:01:43 PM
Quote from: Spence on April 19, 2013, 11:28:27 AM
Looks like we may get some pretty good melting this weekend, so maybe after this weekend it won't be an issue except for maybe Superior.

As I understand it, Superior had to move all their scheduled home games to the other teams' fields this season.  Something about someone driving a pickup truck onto their newly redone surface.

This weekend's series with La Crosse at Platteville has been moved to La Crosse due to unplayable conditions.  I heard something about Platteville's batter's eye maybe being blown down and damaged the outfield grass.   They also got over 3 inches of rain over the past few days.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 19, 2013, 08:22:20 PM
Quote from: Babe Truth on April 19, 2013, 08:01:43 PM
Quote from: Spence on April 19, 2013, 11:28:27 AM
Looks like we may get some pretty good melting this weekend, so maybe after this weekend it won't be an issue except for maybe Superior.

As I understand it, Superior had to move all their scheduled home games to the other teams' fields this season.  Something about someone driving a pickup truck onto their newly redone surface.

This weekend's series with La Crosse at Platteville has been moved to La Crosse due to unplayable conditions.  I heard something about Platteville's batter's eye maybe being blown down and damaged the outfield grass.   They also got over 3 inches of rain over the past few days.

Good Lord. What a mess of...well, mess.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 19, 2013, 09:06:51 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on April 19, 2013, 11:47:06 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 19, 2013, 10:48:51 AM
Earlier someone had wondered if conference games could be played as 7 inning contests rather than 9 innings.  According to the WARHAWKS website the WARHAWKS and Titans will do just that next Wednesday.  I'm not sure whether the suspended game will be 7 innings but after it's conclusion the two teams are scheduled to play three 7 inning games to conclude the series.
On the plus side, anyone who shows up at the game and brings their glove may get a chance to pitch by the time they get to the fourth game.
Wish I still had a year of eligibility left!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 20, 2013, 09:00:35 PM
What happened to superior today?  Is Oshkosh that good?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 20, 2013, 09:44:46 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 20, 2013, 09:00:35 PM
What happened to superior today?  Is Oshkosh that good?
I don't think there's an offense in the region that's better than Oshkosh. However, Superior didn't get off the field when it should have a few times today.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 20, 2013, 10:04:25 PM
I haven't seen them yet but have to think whitewaters lineup is stronger.  Fon and Herum are unreal
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 20, 2013, 10:36:12 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 20, 2013, 10:04:25 PM
I haven't seen them yet but have to think whitewaters lineup is stronger.  Fon and Herum are unreal
My eyeballs and the stats have UWO in the lead slightly.
Oshkosh and Whitewater will play about 3.8 games in Oshkosh on Wednesday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 20, 2013, 11:54:09 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 20, 2013, 10:04:25 PM
I haven't seen them yet but have to think whitewaters lineup is stronger.  Fon and Herum are unreal
Don't forget about Pierce!!!  He is hitting as well as anyone on the Warhawk team right now.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 21, 2013, 11:53:46 AM
WHITEWATER: 10
Stout: 8

The WARHAWKS jumped out to an early lead with single runs in the second and third innings.  Michael Gonzales' RBI single drove in the first run and Steve Bartlein's RBI single the second.  Both runs were unearned as the Blue Devils misplayed relatively easy ground balls.  Stout got one run back in the third when the lead off hitter tripled and scored on a sac fly.  Jared Fon's solo home run gave the WARHAWKS a 3-1 lead in the fifth.  Neither team scored for the next couple of innings but the Blue Devils scored looked to have put the game away in the eighth when they scored seven runs off of a pair of WARHAWKS relievers taking a 8-3 lead by hitting a three run home run, a two run double and a pair of sacrifices.  However the WARHAWKS retook the lead 10-8  with seven runs of their own in the ninth.  After the lead off hitter flew out Marty Herum doubled and scored when Mickole Pierce followed with a single.  Bartlein singled and Logan Peot walked to load the bases for Sam Keller who also walked forcing in the Pierce.  David Cladis' RBI single drove in another run and Gonzales followed with a double driving a pair.  Dylan Friend's single followed driving in the final two runs of the inning.  Stout nearly responded in their at bat loading the bases before the final out.

Matt Roberts started for the WARHAWKS allowing just a single run (earned) on 9 hits while striking out 2 in 7 innings.  Alex Egstad struggled in relief allowing 3 hits and 4 runs (2 earned) without recording an out.  Brock Liston (1-0) picked up the win though he gave up 3 earned runs on 3 hits in a single inning of relief.  Cody Steed picked up a save and escaped without allowing a run despite loading the bases with a hit and pair of walks.

Gonzales and Fon both had 3 hits while Friend, Pierce, Bartlein and Cladis all had 2 hits.  Gonzales drove in 3 runs and Friend a pair while Friend, Pierce, Bartlein, Keller and Cladis each had a single RBI. 

Gangestad led the Blue Devils with 3 hits and five other Blue Devils had 2 hits.  Lamers took the loss in relief. 

The two teams combined for 32 hits and stranded a combined 22 base runners.

WHITEWATER: 11
Stout: 2

Stout scored first in their first at bat in game two when a one out triple was followed by a fielder's choice ground out.  The WARHAWKS wasted little time in responding however getting a pair of runs in the second on Mikole Pierce's solo home run and an RBI single off the bat of Casey Power.  Things slowed down after that as neither team was able to plate any runs until the seventh when the WARHAWKS broke the scoring slump with three runs getting a pair on Michael Gonzales two run home run and the third on a fielder's choice credited to JT Schneider.  A six run eighth inning by the WARHAWKS increased their lead to 11-1.    Power and David Cladis opened the inning with singles and a single by Gonzales drove in the first run.  Friend's sac bunt advanced both and Cladis scored the second run on a wild pitch.  Marty Herum singled up the middle to drive in Gonzales and Mikole Pierce's double drove in the fourth run of the inning.   A fielders choice on a ground ball by Logan Peot drove in the fifth run and the final run scored when Pierce scored during a run down.  Stout prevented the game from ending an inning short when they scored their second run in the bottom of the inning.

Tom Kerndt (4-1) went 7 innings allowing a single run (earned) on 4 hits and striking out 5.  Colin Grove pitched the final 2 innings allowing an unearned run on 3 hits while striking out 3. 

Power went 3x4 in his first varsity level start and Cladis also had 3 hits.  Gonzales, Herum and Pierce each had a pair of hits.  Gonzales drove in 3 runs, Pierce a pair while Herum, Schneider, Peot and Power drove in a single run.   

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 21, 2013, 12:01:52 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 20, 2013, 11:54:09 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 20, 2013, 10:04:25 PM
I haven't seen them yet but have to think whitewaters lineup is stronger.  Fon and Herum are unreal
Don't forget about Pierce!!!  He is hitting as well as anyone on the Warhawk team right now.

The hitter who tends to be overlooked is David Cladis who improved his season average to .489 by going 5x10 yesterday.  Cladis has a team leading .579 ob%.  He doesn't have the power that the others mentioned but he's solid contact hitter and perhaps the most improved from last season though he did hit a respectable .329 last year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 21, 2013, 02:41:07 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on April 20, 2013, 10:36:12 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 20, 2013, 10:04:25 PM
I haven't seen them yet but have to think whitewaters lineup is stronger.  Fon and Herum are unreal
My eyeballs and the stats have UWO in the lead slightly.
Oshkosh and Whitewater will play about 3.8 games in Oshkosh on Wednesday.

Are they seriously playing a quadrupleheader or am I missing a joke here?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 21, 2013, 03:30:49 PM
Quote from: Spence on April 21, 2013, 02:41:07 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on April 20, 2013, 10:36:12 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 20, 2013, 10:04:25 PM
I haven't seen them yet but have to think whitewaters lineup is stronger.  Fon and Herum are unreal
My eyeballs and the stats have UWO in the lead slightly.
Oshkosh and Whitewater will play about 3.8 games in Oshkosh on Wednesday.
Are they seriously playing a quadrupleheader or am I missing a joke here?
The plan is to play four games on Wednesday....  They are going to complete the suspended game from last Wednesday at 11:00 am (9 inning game) and then play three 7-inning games at 1:00 pm, 3:30 pm, and 7:00 pm. 

Game #4 will be played across town at EJ Schneider under the lights.

It will be a true test for both pitching staffs, as both Oshkosh and Whitewater played four nine-inning games this weekend (two Saturday and two Sunday.)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 21, 2013, 04:49:41 PM
Has this ever been done?

I guess if you like baseball you know where to be. Will be interested to see if Oshkosh is for real...by the end of the day, we should know.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 21, 2013, 05:21:48 PM
Quote from: Spence on April 21, 2013, 04:49:41 PM
Has this ever been done?

I guess if you like baseball you know where to be. Will be interested to see if Oshkosh is for real...by the end of the day, we should know.
I remember back in 2007, Stevens Point and Platteville played three 7-inning games on a Monday after they were rained out on both Saturday and Sunday.

As far as Oshkosh, they dropped Game #1 against Superior today 8-5.  Looks like UWO could have used a few of those 40+ runs they put up yesterday today!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 21, 2013, 07:31:17 PM
And their down 6 to 1 in 7th in game 2.  Why does whitewater always find a way to take all 4 against the bottom dwellers and Oshkosh and point find a way to split or lose one.  Seems to be the trend now
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 21, 2013, 07:33:20 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 21, 2013, 07:31:17 PM
And their down 6 to 1 in 7th in game 2.  Why does whitewater always find a way to take all 4 against the bottom dwellers and Oshkosh and point find a way to split or lose one.  Seems to be the trend now
Easy....  They typically have a deeper pitching staff and are overall a better team!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 21, 2013, 08:20:19 PM
Carthage has played a quadruple header in the past. I will try to find a link to the story... In the late 60s or early 70s maybe?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 21, 2013, 09:59:58 PM
I don't think that there will be four games on Wednesday.  There have been some new developments that make it seem unlikely.  The details of what will be played have yet to be worked out. 

WHITEWATER: 7
Stout: 4

The WARHAWKS opened the scoring with a pair of runs in the third when Dylan Friend hit an opposite field two run home run and added a third run in the fourth which was scored on a fielders choice.   Stout got on the board in the bottom of the inning when they scored on a fielders choice.  Jared Fon's triple scored two more WARHAWKS runs in the seventh increasing the lead to 5-1.  But the Blue Devils cut the lead to 5-3 with their own pair of runs in the bottom of the inning.  Michael Gonzales' double in the eighth drove in two more increasing the WARHAWKS lead to 7-3 and Stout scored a single run in their last at bat to create the final.

Justin Lambert (5-1) picked up the win pitching 6.2 innings allowing 3 earned runs on 10 hits with 2 strikeouts and a single walk.  Curtis Morgan and Justin Mortensen combined to pitch the final 2.1 innings without giving up a hit though Mortensen was touched with an unearned run. 

Gonzales, Friend, Fon and Herum each had a pair of hits and Gonzales, Friend and Fon each had 2 RBI. 


WHITEWATER: 12
Stout: 8

Stout opened the scoring in the second game with they scored a single run in the first at bat.  However the WARHAWKS quickly took control with four runs in the second.  Marty Herum led the inning off circling the bases when his single was played into a three base error on the Blue Devil centerfielder.   Mikole Pierce followed with a solo home run.  Casey Power's RBI single later in the inning drove in the third run and Dylan Friend's sac fly brought the fourth run home.  The WARHAWKS increased their lead to 6-1 with a RBI single by Trey Cannon in the third and David Cladis' RBI single in the fifth.   Stout cut the lead to 6-3 with a pair of RBI singles in the sixth but the WARHAWKS got those two back in the seventh when Casey Power hit a two run home run.   The WARHAWKS added four more in the ninth with a fielders choice, a Gonzales RBI single, a double steal in which Gonzales scored and Marty Herum's RBI single to take 12-3 lead.  Stout wasn't finished though as they scored four runs off two WARHAWKS relievers before the third relief pitcher in the inning finally recorded the final out.

Scott Plaza (4-0) allowed 5 hits and 3 runs (1 earned) while striking out 6 with a walk in 6 innings for the win.  Colin Grove gave up 1 run (earned) on 2 hits striking out 2 and walking one in 2 innings of relief.  Cody Steed struggled giving up 4 earned runs on 3 hits with a strikeout in .1 inning.  Justin Mortensen allowed a single hit in .1 inning and Curtis Morton got the final out in his second appearance of the day. 

JT Schneider led the 20 hit WARHAWKS offense with 4 hits.  Herum, Pierce and Cladis each had 3 hits.  Gonzales, Cannon and Power all had a pair of hits.  Power led the team with 4 RBI while 6 other WARHAWKS drove in a single RBI.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 22, 2013, 08:12:51 AM
It wouldn't suck if point could go 8 and 0 against ripon stout and superior this week. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 22, 2013, 04:27:31 PM
No Quadrupleheader on Wednesday in Oshkosh.....

Now scheduled to be a tripleheader, with completion of suspended game at 11:00 am and two more games at 1:00 pm and 3:30 pm.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 22, 2013, 04:42:47 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 22, 2013, 04:27:31 PM
No Quadrupleheader on Wednesday in Oshkosh.....

Now scheduled to be a tripleheader, with completion of suspended game at 11:00 am and two more games at 1:00 pm and 3:30 pm.
Was looking forward to four games and a change of venue for the last one. We can probably take Dr. Jobe off speed dial for now, but these last few weeks are going to be crazy. Wonder what the regional winner is going to have left in the tank.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 22, 2013, 05:21:35 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 22, 2013, 04:27:31 PM
No Quadrupleheader on Wednesday in Oshkosh.....

Now scheduled to be a tripleheader, with completion of suspended game at 11:00 am and two more games at 1:00 pm and 3:30 pm.

This seems much more sensible.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on April 22, 2013, 09:44:55 PM
Why Spence?  How you gonna get these in?  ??? ???
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 23, 2013, 08:21:07 AM
Just pointing out that MN high schools have yet to play a game... got more snow last night. Unreal.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 23, 2013, 12:06:55 PM
Quote from: AppletonRocks on April 22, 2013, 09:44:55 PM
Why Spence?  How you gonna get these in?  ??? ???

I don't know, but playing 4 games in a day is not the right way to do it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 23, 2013, 12:08:52 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 23, 2013, 08:21:07 AM
Just pointing out that MN high schools have yet to play a game... got more snow last night. Unreal.

The Spence-o-Matic 3000 says:

Won't amount to much. Some of it might be rain which would help. Then a warmup FINALLY coming. Expect baseball this weekend.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on April 23, 2013, 12:39:01 PM
For those who haven't heard, the WIAC tournament has been pushed back a day to Sat-Sun May 11th-12th, no doubt due to the rescheduled games on the 8th.

Also, the final weekend series have been pushed back a day to the 4th & 5th.   It's nice to see some common sense flexibility.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 23, 2013, 03:14:02 PM
Quote from: Babe Truth on April 23, 2013, 12:39:01 PM
For those who haven't heard, the WIAC tournament has been pushed back a day to Sat-Sun May 11th-12th, no doubt due to the rescheduled games on the 8th.

Also, the final weekend series have been pushed back a day to the 4th & 5th.   It's nice to see some common sense flexibility.
Rumor I have heard is that the WIAC Tournament was changed from a 3-day tournament to a 2-day tournament because of the likelihood it will be in Whitewater.  With it being in Whitewater, the field is now lighted which allows games to be played later if need be.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 24, 2013, 01:07:01 PM
UWO picks up where it left off in suspended game and defeats Whitewater 11-1 in a game shortened to seven innings due to the mercy rule. 

Joe Pavlovich was outstanding limiting the Warhawks potent offense to to just a single run on six hits and two walks while striking out four batters for the complete game victory (which spanned eight days!!!)

Beattie, Polcyn, and Kachel led the Titans offense with three hits apiece, while Kamps and Kachel each added a pair of hits.  The Titans had nine extra-base hits in the game (7 doubles, 1 triple, and 1 HR.)

Following the week long delay, Curtis Morgan came on in relief for losing pitcher Quintin Zander and was "roughed up" a bit highlighted by giving up five straight hits (a single, two doubles, a triple and a HR) in the Titans five run sixth inning.

Be interesting to see how Game #2 and #3 turn out with both teams on "equal" footing.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 24, 2013, 08:56:33 PM
Game 2
WHITEWATER: 18
Oshkosh: 6

Each team scored a pair of runs in their first at bat.  The WARHAWKS runs were both unearned and came on a pair of  fielding errors.  The Titans got theirs on a 2 run home run by Kachel.  After neither team scored in the second they both got single runs in the third.  Casey Power's RBI single got  the WARHAWKS on the board  and Polcyn's RBI single countered for the Titans.  The WARHAWKS took the lead for good with 3 runs in the fourth which the Titans answered with only a pair.  Jared Fon's RBI single drove in the first run and sac flies by Marty Herum and Mikole Pierce each drove in runs.  The Titans runs came on a sac fly which was followed by an error.  After Steve Bartlein's solo home run in the fifth made the score 7-5 the WARHAWKS pushed it to 11-5 with four runs in the sixth.  Pierce's ground out drove in the first run, Cladis's RBI single the second, Bartlein's second home run drove in the third and fourth.  A single by Marty Herum  drove in a run in the seventh making the score 12-5.  Barlein picked up his third RBI of the game with a single in the eighth and Dylan Friend's triple drove in two more.  The Titans scored a single run in the bottom of the inning when Bohn hit a sac fly.  The WARHAWKS closed out the scoring with three runs in the ninth.  Pierce doubled to drive in the first run.  Power's infield single drove in the second run and the seventh Titan error of the game allowed the final run to score on a ground ball by Logan Peot.

Matt Roberts (5-0) pitched 7.1 innings giving up 9 hits, 5 runs (3 earned) while striking out 8 and walking 3.  Colin Grove finished the final 1.2 allowing 2 hits and striking out 3.  Matt Sabel, the second of six Titan pitchers, took the loss in relief for the Titans.

The WARHAWKS pounded out 19 hits in the game.  Friend, Herum and Bartlein each had 3.  Fon, Cladis, Power and JT Schneider each had 2 hits.  Pierce and Bartlein each finished with 3 RBI while Friend, Fon, Herum and Power had 2 RBI and Cladis drove in 1.  Every WARHAWKS position player recorded at least one hit.  Beattie had 3 hits to lead Oshkosh.


Game 3
WHITEWATER: 20
Oshkosh: 3
7 innings

The WARHAWKS scored three runs in both the first and second innings and a pair of run in the third to jump on top 8-0.  Marty Herum's double drove in the first run and was followed by a two run home run by Mikole Pierce for the first three runs.  A Michael Gonzales RBI double got the WARHAWKS going in the second inning and was followed by solo home runs by Mikole Pierce and Steve Bartlein.  The Titans cut the lead to 8-3 when Kachel hit a 3 run home run in the bottom of the third.  But the WARHAWKS doubled their run total with 8 runs in the fourth.  Jared Fon's single drove in the first two and Pierce drove in another pair with a single.  Two more runs scored on a throwing error and another run scored when Casey Power doubled.  The final out of the inning came on Gonzales' ground out.    The WARHAWKS added another run in the fifth when Herum homered, two more in the sixth on a single by Gonzales and the final run on a single by Pierce. 

Tom Kerndt (5-1) allowed all 3 Titan runs (earned) on 6 hits striking out 10 and walking 3 in 6 innings.  Brock Liston pitched the final inning without allowing a hit and striking out a batter.   Travis Sindles started and took the loss for the Titans.

Gonzales and Pierce led the 21 hit WARHAWKS offense with 4 hits apiece.  Herum had 3 hits and Fon, David Cladis, Power and JT Schneider had 2 hits.  For the second time during the day every WARHAWKS position player recorded at least one hit.  Pierce had 5 RBI and Gonzales 4.  Friend, Fon, Herum and Bartlein all had 2 RBI while Power had 1.   Kamps led the Titans with 2 hits.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 24, 2013, 10:24:20 PM
If Oshkosh and Whitewater happen to meet up in the WIAC Tournament, pretty easy to figure out who would likely be taking the mound for UWO....  What a killing the Warhawks put on every UWO pitcher not named Pavlovich!!!   :o
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 24, 2013, 10:54:04 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 24, 2013, 10:24:20 PM
If Oshkosh and Whitewater happen to meet up in the WIAC Tournament, pretty easy to figure out who would likely be taking the mound for UWO....  What a killing the Warhawks put on every UWO pitcher not named Pavlovich!!!   :o
None of the games were competitive for very long. If they happen to meet again, there's a good chance that Oshkosh will have its regular cleanup hitter and third baseman in the lineup.

Oshkosh struggled in all phases during the doubleheader. Lots of called third strikes and errors. It could have been worse if Whitewater ran the bases better. UWW got picked off at least six times today.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 24, 2013, 10:58:51 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on April 24, 2013, 10:54:04 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 24, 2013, 10:24:20 PM
If Oshkosh and Whitewater happen to meet up in the WIAC Tournament, pretty easy to figure out who would likely be taking the mound for UWO....  What a killing the Warhawks put on every UWO pitcher not named Pavlovich!!!   :o
None of the games were competitive for very long. If they happen to meet again, there's a good chance that Oshkosh will have its regular cleanup hitter and third baseman in the lineup.

Oshkosh struggled in all phases during the doubleheader. Lots of called third strikes and errors. It could have been worse if Whitewater ran the bases better. UWW got picked off at least six times today.
Unless he can get guys out on the mound it likely won't matter in my opinion....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 24, 2013, 11:02:22 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 24, 2013, 10:58:51 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on April 24, 2013, 10:54:04 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 24, 2013, 10:24:20 PM
If Oshkosh and Whitewater happen to meet up in the WIAC Tournament, pretty easy to figure out who would likely be taking the mound for UWO....  What a killing the Warhawks put on every UWO pitcher not named Pavlovich!!!   :o
None of the games were competitive for very long. If they happen to meet again, there's a good chance that Oshkosh will have its regular cleanup hitter and third baseman in the lineup.

Oshkosh struggled in all phases during the doubleheader. Lots of called third strikes and errors. It could have been worse if Whitewater ran the bases better. UWW got picked off at least six times today.
Unless he can get guys out on the mound it likely won't matter in my opinion....
He would not have driven in 25 runs today. Turns out today was moot. But if they meet again, they start with a tie game. I think he's a key part of the Oshkosh offense and defense.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 24, 2013, 11:08:25 PM
No comments on points whooping they took today?  I'm a tad bit concerned about points pitching right now too.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 25, 2013, 10:10:46 AM
It looked about as ugly as the whooping they put on Stout in the first game.  Pitching is probably going to be somewhat of an issue with every team these next couple of weeks as the schedule has compacted.  We may be sitting the best given that we've got fewer games to make up.  But everyone is going to be tested. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 25, 2013, 03:58:42 PM
The first Midwest Regional rankings have been released:

Midwest Region
1 St. Thomas 15-4 16-4
2 UW-Whitewater 20-3 22-4
3 St. Olaf 12-4 12-7
4 UW-Stevens Point 15-6 17-6
5 Concordia-Chicago 21-3 22-3
6 Benedictine 20-6 22-7

The first numbers are the team's regional record and the second their overall record. 

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 27, 2013, 08:30:20 PM
WARHAWKS: 9
LaCrosse: 4

Mikole Pierce's sac fly got the WARHAWKS on the scoreboard in their first at bat and they increased the lead to 5-0 with four runs in the second when Dylan Friend drew a bases loaded walk and Marty Herum drove in three with a double.  LaCrosse answered with a pair of runs in the third with a sac fly and RBI single.  The WARHAWKS didn't wait long to get those runs back plating a pair in the fifth on two fielders choice ground outs.  LaCrosse cut into the lead with a two run home run by Brooks Braga in the 8th inning but the WARHAWKS got one of those back when David Cladis hit a sac fly in the bottom of the inning. 

Justin Lambert (6-1) scattered 6 hits surrendering 4 runs (2 earned) striking out two and walking two in 8 innings to pick up the win.  Brock Liston struck out a pair without allowing a hit in one inning of relief.  Joel Effertz (4-2) took the loss for the Eagles.

Friend and Herum each had 3 hits and Pierce had 2 hits.  Herum drove in 4 runs while Friend, Pierce, Cladis, Logan Peot and Casey Power all had a single RBI.  Braga had 2 hits and 2 RBI to lead the Eagles.

WHITEWATER: 13
LaCrosse: 1
7 innings

The WARHAWKS wasted little time in game two jumping out to a 3-0 lead in the first inning.  Mikole Pierce's triple drove in two of the runs and the third scored when Steve Bartlein reached on a throwing error.  Dylan Friend ground into a double play in the second inning but JT Schneider scored making it 4-0 after two innings.  The WARHAWKS put the game away with six runs in the third inning.  Bartlien, Mike Mierow and Marty Herum all hit RBI singles, Michael Gonzales' double drove in a pair and Friend's sac fly drove in a run.  Three more WARHAWKS runs were score in the fifth inning on a JT Schneider double, a sac fly by Gonzales and a single off the bat of Bartlein.  LaCrosse scored it's only run on Adam Cordova's two out solo home run in the seventh.

Scott Plaza (5-0) pitched six shut out innings allowing 4 hits and striking out 3.  Mierow saw his first pitching stint since the summer trip to Europe allowing 1 run (earned) on 1 hit and a walk in an inning of relief.  Mike Kowalke (1-4) took the loss.

Herum continued his hot hitting with 3 hits while Pierce, Bartlein and Schneider each had 2 hits.  Both of Pierce's hits were triples.  Barlein and Gonzales led with 3 RBI each.  Pierce added 2 RBI while Friend, Herum, Mierow and Schneider each had 1 RBI.  Herum finished the day 6x8 with 3 runs scored and 5 RBIs.    Josh Rowles had 2 hits to lead the Eagles. 

Point took a pair from Superior 10-0 and 21-2.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 28, 2013, 08:56:55 PM
WARHAWKS: 11
LaCrosse: 8

A sac fly by Cefalu got the Eagles an early lead in their first at bat.  But the WARHAWKS struck for four runs in the second, all unearned.  JT Schneider singled through the left side to drive in the first two.  Michael Gonzales' single drove in the third and Dylan Friend's double drove in the fourth.  The Eagles tied the score 4-4 with three unearned runs in the third.  Braga homered in the fourth to give the Eagles their second lead of the game 5-4 but the WARHAWKS went back on top 6-5 with a pair of unearned runs in the sixth.  Steve Bartlein scored on a fielding error and Gonzales had another RBI single.  LaCrosse didn't wait long to take their third lead of the game, 8-6, scoring three runs, one unearned, in the seventh.  David Cladis cut the lead in half with an RBI single in the bottom of the seventh inning and in the eighth inning JT Schneider's bunt single scored the tying run when the Eagle pitcher threw the ball into right field.  Friend followed that with a 2 run home run and Cladis' second RBI single of the game put the WARHAWKS on top 11-8.  LaCrosse threatened in the ninth bringing the tying run to the plate with two outs but was unable to score.

This was one of the ugliest games imaginable.  The two teams combined for 13 errors making even the most routine ground ball an unpredictable adventure.  Of the 19 runs scored only 9 were earned. 

Matt Roberts started for the WARHAWKS going 6 innings allowing 10 hits, 7 runs (3 earned) with 6 strikeouts and a single base on balls.  Quintin Zander pitched 1.2 innings allowing a single run (earned) on 1 hit with a pair of base on balls and strikeouts.  Curtis Morgan (2-0) was credited with the win after pitching the final 1.1 innings of hitless ball with one base on balls and one strikeouts.  Skyler Debilzen took the loss for LaCrosse.

Marty Herum led the 15 hit Warhawk offense with 3 hits while Gonzales, Friend, Cladis, Schneider and Casey Power all had 2 hits.  Friend led the way with 3 RBIs.  Gonzales, Cladis and Schneider each had 2 RBIs.  Braga and Cordova led the Eagles with 2 hits each. 


WARHAWKS: 8
LaCrosse: 3

Steve Bartlein's RBI single in the first inning gave the WARHAWKS a 1-0 lead and Mike Mierow's double coupled with JT Schneider's fielders choice goundout increased the lead to 3-0 in the fourth.  LaCrosse countered with a single run in fifth when Morgan hit a solo shot.  The WARHAWKS matched that run with Bartlein's second RBI on a single in the fifth and added three more runs in the seventh with Mikole Pierce's RBI double and RBI singles by Logan Peot and JT Schneider.  The WARHAWKS increased the lead to 8-1 in the eighth when David Cladis reached on a fielders choice and Dylan Friend scored.  LaCrosse ended the scoring with a pair of runs in the ninth.

Tom Kerndt (6-1) pitched a solid 8 innings allowing 5 hits, 3 runs (earned), striking out 4 with 3 base on balls.  Colin Grove pitched the last inning allowing a single hit.  Kevin Johnson took the loss for the Eagles.

Bartlein's 4 hits paced the 15 hit WARHAWKS offense while Schneider hit safely 3 times and Peot, Mierow and Pierce each had 2 hits.  Bartlein and Schneider each had a pair of RBIs and Pierce, Cladis, Peot and Mierow all had single RBI.  Ben Morgan had 2 hits to lead the Eagles.   

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 30, 2013, 11:28:26 PM
Point beat st Norbert 10 to 0 today.  Messenger looked really good and allowed 2 hits through 7.  Gregorich and Schilter both went yard and gregorich had 4 rbis
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 01, 2013, 08:46:38 PM
With Oshkosh's victory over Stevens Point in the nightcap of today's DH, it clinched the regular season title for Whitewater and in turn they will host the WIAC Tournament next weekend.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 01, 2013, 10:19:51 PM
Points pitching after Jp really had no answer for Oshkosh today.  Hope the base running and pitching are much better by next Wednesday. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 02, 2013, 11:17:42 AM
WARHAWKS: 15
St. Scholastica: 5
8 innings

The lead went back and forth for the first couple of innings.  The Saints scored first getting a single run in their first at bat but the WARHAWKS responded quickly when Dylan Friend hit an opposite field two run home run in their first at bat.  St. Scholastica regained the lead 3-2 with a pair of runs in the second but once again the WARHAWKS retook the lead 5-3 with an RBI single by Jared Fon and another two run home run this time off the bat of Marty Herum.  After neither team scored in the third the WARHAWKS increased the lead to 9-4 in the fourth when Mikole Pierce and David Cladis each drove in a pair of runs with a single and double respectively.  S.t Scholastica scored a run in the fifth however the WARHAWKS answered that with four more runs on RBI singles by Steve Bartlein (2) and Michael Gonzales and a sacrifice fly by Pierce.  After St. Scholastica put one run on the board in the eighth the WARHAWKS ended the game in walk of style with a two run home run by Sam Keller.

Justin Lambert (7-1) allowed 10 hits, 4 runs (earned) with 2 walks and 4 strikeouts in 6.1 innings for the win.  Justin Mortensen relieved for the final 1.2 innings giving up 1 earned run on 3 hits.  Jake Nystrom took the loss for the Saints.

The WARHAWKS continued their hot hitting with 17 hits led by Gonzales and Pierce who each had 3.  Fon, Pierce, Cladis and JT Schneider all had 2 hits.  Pierce led the way with 3 RBIs while Keller, Friend, Herum, Cladis and Bartlein had 2 RBIs and Gonzales and Fon also drove in a run.  Austin Colvard and Jake Casareto each had 3 hits for the Saints and Casareto had a pair of RBIs.   


WARHAWKS: 5
St. Scholastica: 3

As was the case in the first game it was the Saints who grabbed a 1-0 lead with a two out run in their first at bat.  However this time it took the WARHAWKS two at bats to respond.  Mikole Pierce and Sam Keller hit back to back solo home runs giving the WARHAWKS a 2-1 lead.  The Saints responded by tying the game with a run in the third and took their second lead of the game 3-2 with another run in the fifth.  A pair of runs in the bottom of the inning on Steve Bartlein's RBI single and Michael Gonzales sacrifice fly put the WARHAWKS on top for good 4-3 and they added insurance in the sixth when Keller singled in a run.

The WARHAWKS bats cooled off with only 7 hits of which 6 came off the bats of three players.  Pierce, Keller and Bartlein each had 2 hits.  Pierce had a pair of RBIs while Keller, Bartlein and Gonzales each had one.   Austin Colvard had his second 3 hit game of the day to lead the Saints.

Scott Plaza (6-0) went 5.2 innigs allowing 3 earned runs on 8 hits with 5 strikeouts for the win.  Colin Grove picked up his second save of the season allowing just 2 hits and striking out 3 in 3.1 innings of relief.  Jordan Risse was the losing Saint pitcher.   

The WARHAWKS have the weekend off resuming play next Tuesday with a single game against Concordia-Wisconsin and finish the regular season with a double header against Platteville Wednesday afternoon.     
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 05, 2013, 06:44:24 PM
Congrats to the WARHAWKS women softball team who avenged a pair of losses to Oshkosh during the regular season with a 2-1 win in the semifinal game of the conference tournament and followed that with a convincing 7-0 victory over Eau Claire, the regular season champion, to earn the conference's automatic bid into the NCAA postseason tournament.  The regional will be held in WHITEWATER starting Thursday.  The WARHAWKS finish the regular season with a 31-5 record. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 05, 2013, 09:52:53 PM
Big sweep by point.  Like that messenger is coming on strong should only boost points chances.  I'm guessing point and Oshkosh don't pitch any of their top guys seeing seeding is locked up.  Is point locked into regionals no matter how they finish?  Lets hear some thoughts
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIACLUV on May 06, 2013, 10:01:49 AM
Let's say they drop the last 2 to Osh and go 0-2 in the conference tourney, that puts them at 30-12. I still believe they are a C bid baseed on SOS alone. Although I don't see this happening, I actually pick them to win the WIAC tourney.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 06, 2013, 10:13:07 AM
Quote from: MIACLUV on May 06, 2013, 10:01:49 AM
Let's say they drop the last 2 to Osh and go 0-2 in the conference tourney, that puts them at 30-12. I still believe they are a C bid baseed on SOS alone. Although I don't see this happening, I actually pick them to win the WIAC tourney.
I would be shocked if Point won the WIAC tournament.  I just don't see them having the depth in their pitching staff to do it.  If they were to win it, it would have to play out where they won three straight games.  In my opinion, Whitewater is the only team with enough pitching to get knocked into the losers bracket and still win it all.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 06, 2013, 10:31:55 AM
UW-Whitewater second baseman David Cladis  has earned Academic All-District honors from the College Sports Information Directors of America.  The award recognizes the combination of excellence in the classroom and in the athletics arena.

Cladis, a senior with a secondary math education major, has compiled a 3.67 cumulative grade point on a 4.0 scale.  He has been on the Dean's List every semester, and the Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference Scholastic Honor Roll all three years.  He has also been a UW-W Athletic Academic Achievement Award recipient his first three years, and has been involved with the UW-Whitewater Learning Community.

Cladis has started every game for the Warhawks.  He has a .411 batting average, with 32 runs scored and 16 runs batted in.  He has walked 20 times, with a .515 on base average.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 06, 2013, 10:52:58 AM
Superior has finished their conference season 9-15 for a .375 w/l% .  LaCrosse has 8 wins with two games remaining against Stout.  They'll need to win at least one of them to secure the fourth seed.  While I think they will do that should they lose both their w/l% would be .347 but they would have played 23 games, one short of a full schedule.  I don't think that there are plans to play that game and the seeding will be determined by the w/l%.  At least that's the impression I got when we secured the championship and the writeup on the WIAC's website went into detail about the w/l%.  Wednesday should be an interesting weekday for them.

Point seems to be playing very well right now. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 07, 2013, 08:55:00 PM
WARHAWKS: 15
Concordia-Wi: 2

Concordia scored first with a single run in the the first inning.  The WARHAWKS answered that with five runs in the bottom of the inning.  Marty Herum and Steve Bartlein had RBIs on sacrifice flies, Mikole Pierce stole home as part of a double steal, David Cladis got a cheap RBI when he drew a bases loaded walk and Casey Power had an RBI single.  Three more WARHAWKS runs scored in the second inning on RBI singles from Pierce and Bartlein and a sacrifice bunt by Cladis.  Two more runs scored in the WARHAWKS third inning on Jared Fon's sacrifice fly to deep center when the outfielders collided and though one held onto the ball both runners were able to tag up and score.  The WARHAWKS added two more runs in the fifth on RBI singles from Cladis and Pierce, one more run in the sixth on Dylan Friend's sacrifice fly and the final two in the seventh on a sacrifice fly by Pierce and a fielding error.  Concordia scored the game's final run in the ninth. 

Every WARHAWKS starting position player had at least one hit.  Friend, Herum, Bartlein, Pierce and JT Schneider all had two hits.  As a team the WARHAWKS had nine stolen bases. 

Brock Liston (2-0) surrendered 4 hits, an earned run, struck out 2 and walked 2 in five innings for the win.  Justin Mortensen gave up a single hit and struck out 3 in 3 innings of relief.  Mike Mierow pitched the final inning giving up an unearned run on 1 hit while walking 1 and striking out 1. 

   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2013, 08:53:54 PM
LaCrosse sweeps Stout to secure the fourth seed in the conference tournament.

WHITEWATER: 8
Platteville: 5

The WARHAWKS jumped out in front 2-0 on Jared Fon's solo home run and a RBI double by Steve Bartlein in the first inning.  Platteville answered and took a 3-2 lead in the second inning with two walks, a double and a pair of singles.  Three consecutive singles gave the Pioneers another run in the third increasing their lead to 4-2.  The WARHAWKS closed the gap to 4-3 when Marty Herum hit a solo home run in the bottom of the third and tied the score 4-4 an inning later when JT Schneider hit into a fielder's choice ground out and retook the lead 5-4 when another run scored in the bottom of the fifth.  The WARHAWKS added another run in sixth on Mike Mierow's sacrifice fly and two more runs in the eighth on RBI singles from Mierow and Fon.  Platteville scored the final run of the game in the ninth on a wild pitch.

Matt Roberts (6-0) was credited with the win allowing 8 hits, 4 earned runs with 7 strikeouts and 4 walks in 6 innings.  Curtis Morgan pitched 2 innings with 1 hit, 1 walk and 1 strikeout.  Cody Steed pitched the final inning allowing 1 earned run on 1 hit with 1 walk and 1 strikeout.  Bill Oppriecht took the loss for the Pioneers. 

Herum led the WARHAWKS going 4x4 with an RBI and 2 runs scored.    Fon, David Cladis and Sam Keller each had 2 hits.  Mierow and Fon each had 2 RBIs.

WARHAWKS: 4
Platteville: 2

Platteville took an early 1-0 lead in the second inning when after two were out 2 batters were hit by pitches, the third singled and a base on balls forced a run across the plate.  It took to the fourth inning for the WARHAWKS to match that run when after Mikole Pierce doubled Steve Bartlein drove him in with a single.  Platteville retook the lead 2-1 with a run in the sixth but the WARHAWKS answered that in the bottom of inning when Casey Power hit an RBI single to tie the game and JT Schneider RBI single gave them the lead 3-2.  The WARHAWKS added an insurance run in the seventh when Marty Herum tripled in a run.  Platteville threatened with two runners on base with one out in the eighth and brought the tying run to the plate in the ninth but were unable to score in either opportunity.

Dylan Friend, Herum, Pierce, JT Schneider and Power all had 2 hits to lead the WARHAWKS

Tom Kerndt (7-1) got the win allowing 3 hits, 2 earned runs with 3 strikeouts though he struggled at times walking 4 and 3 hit batters.  Quintin Zander pitched 2 innings allowing a single hit and striking out 2 but also walked  3 batters.  Scott Plaza pitched the final inning allowing 1 hit and striking out the side.  Adam Theis was the losing pitcher for the Pioneers.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 08, 2013, 10:48:57 PM
Congrats to both point and whitewater for playing real consistent ball so far.  I'll be the first to admit I didn't see point going 32 and 8 and also didn't see whitewater losing only 2 games in the Wiac.  I doubt it will happen but hoping point gets shipped to Illinois regional.  Hopefully a Wiac team will make it to appleton but I'm sure st Thomas will be a tough out.  Any predictions on all conference?  It's going to be real tough this year lots of great players including several that may get all America in my opinion.  Where does Ryan Schilter rank among best defensive catchers in Wiac history?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2013, 12:28:28 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 08, 2013, 10:48:57 PM
Congrats to both point and whitewater for playing real consistent ball so far.  I'll be the first to admit I didn't see point going 32 and 8 and also didn't see whitewater losing only 2 games in the Wiac.  I doubt it will happen but hoping point gets shipped to Illinois regional.  Hopefully a Wiac team will make it to appleton but I'm sure st Thomas will be a tough out.  Any predictions on all conference?  It's going to be real tough this year lots of great players including several that may get all America in my opinion.  Where does Ryan Schilter rank among best defensive catchers in Wiac history?
I was in Point each of the past two Wednesday's.  Not going to go into much detail, but I will say I think you are exaggerating a bit.  Point pitchers were charged with a couple of wild pitches today that were VERY blockable.

When it comes to defensive catchers, I would put Casey Kopitzke at the top of the list...  He did it all behind the dish!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 11, 2013, 01:06:13 PM
La Crosse knocks off Whitewater in the opening game of the WIAC Tournament this morning 6-0.  La Crosse scores three runs in the Top of the 8th inning to open things up a bit and tacks on two insurance runs in the 9th inning after taking a 1-0 lead in the first inning. 

UWL's Tim Verthein was DOMINANT on the mound going the distance for a complete game shutout.  He gave up just two hits, while walking two and striking out seven. 

UWL had eight out of nine starters with at least one hit on the day.

Even with the loss, I wouldn't be surprised to see Whitewater come back and win four straight and win the WIAC Tournament.  In my opinion they have the pitching to do it, although it will be a tough task!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 11, 2013, 04:26:56 PM
For the third time in a little over a week, Oshkosh puts up a crooked number in the first inning against Stevens Point only to see the Pointers erase the deficit.

UWO takes a 4-0 lead highlighted by Bobby Kachel's three run HR, his 11th of the season.  The Pointers chipped away at the lead, but in my opinion the turning point came in the 6th inning with UWO up to bat.  The Titans had 1st and 2nd with 0 outs, and had Tyler Kamps move runners up with a SAC bunt.  UWO fails to plate a run however after a foul out and a ground ball ended the inning.  Point took the momentum and scored six runs in the bottom half to take a 9-6 advantage and held on for a 10-8 victory.

UWSP's Dan Douglas has his 25 game winning streak snapped in the victory for the Pointers.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 11, 2013, 05:31:13 PM
Does anyone else believe whitewater may be dogging it a little just to have their arms ready for regionals?  What do they really have to play for?  Kind of reminds me of d1 college basketball where half of the top teams could care less about conference tournament.  La crosse has to feel good with effertz going tonight although point just beat him last week.  I was shocked to see herbst go an inning does that mean he's not going tonight?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 11, 2013, 05:37:02 PM
Here's my early Christmas wish list    Swift Polcyn effertz and pavolich all transfer to point and help bring point a World Series next year.  Does anyone else think if Oshkosh even had let's say whitewaters pitching staff they'd make the World Series?  They can hit anyone it seems. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 11, 2013, 05:54:59 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 11, 2013, 05:37:02 PM
Here's my early Christmas wish list    Swift Polcyn effertz and pavolich all transfer to point and help bring point a World Series next year.  Does anyone else think if Oshkosh even had let's say whitewaters pitching staff they'd make the World Series?  They can hit anyone it seems.
They still struggle defensively....  Not too often you see a team at the World Series who finished dead last in their conference in Fielding %.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 11, 2013, 07:20:55 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 11, 2013, 05:31:13 PM
Does anyone else believe whitewater may be dogging it a little just to have their arms ready for regionals?  What do they really have to play for?  Kind of reminds me of d1 college basketball where half of the top teams could care less about conference tournament.  La crosse has to feel good with effertz going tonight although point just beat him last week.  I was shocked to see herbst go an inning does that mean he's not going tonight?
They threw their top guys so there is no way I would even think they are "dogging it."   If that was the case, I doubt the offense would have scored 12 unanswered after falling behind 8-0 to take a 12-8 lead.

Anyway, by saying they are dogging it, it really takes away from just how well Verthein pitched!!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 12, 2013, 06:54:19 PM

There's no way in god's earth that we were dogging it.  We just lost the #1 seed.  We picked a pretty bad time to go into a funk.  Time for a come to Jesus meeting in the locker room.  Hopefully we can get our heads straight this week and play better next week.  One thing is for certain.  If we play like we did this weekend it going to be a very short regional for us. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 12, 2013, 08:12:04 PM
Sad to say I feel bad for lacrosse they really played well and would've been great to have 3 Wiac teams in although I don't feel the Wiac would've deserved 3 considering the body of work over season.  Obviously I want point in appleton but as long as its a Wiac team and not st Thomas ill live.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on May 13, 2013, 10:43:20 PM
Is Oshkosh ever going to win the WIAC again?   :-[
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 14, 2013, 07:03:20 AM
They had the offense to win it this year that's for sure.  The Wiac is a tough conference to win at this point as whitewater and point have shown they can continuously replace great players and put a solid team on the field every year.  Other than la crosse last year and their magical season it's been a two team race for the most part the past 10 years.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on May 14, 2013, 02:07:26 PM
Talk about losing the lead.  For the prior 10 years Oshkosh ruled.  What changed?  Yes I am an alum.  And I was there when they won 2 titles.  I did not play, not even close to good enough to be on those teams. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 14, 2013, 02:20:15 PM
Quote from: AppletonRocks on May 14, 2013, 02:07:26 PM
Talk about losing the lead.  For the prior 10 years Oshkosh ruled.  What changed?  Yes I am an alum.  And I was there when they won 2 titles.  I did not play, not even close to good enough to be on those teams.

Interesting note is that both Carthage and Oshkosh started to slide a bit at the same time(early 2000s). Their rosters were full of players from the Fox Valley area (including Appleton). Around that time, both Point and Whitewater started to expand their recruiting into the Fox Valley which drastically hurt both Carthage and Oshkosh as it provided two more national powers chasing the same top kids. Carthage has shied away from the Valley almost completely and now focuses most of its recruiting on the Chicago suburbs. In the 90s, both of those programs had that talent funneling into their rosters year after year and World Series appearances followed. It just seems like too much of a coincidence for this to not be related in any way.

As I write this, I know that Carthage was in the World Series in 2002, 2007 and 2009, but they have really taken a dip in the past few seasons. The Titans have not been there since 2003.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 15, 2013, 12:52:44 PM
Quote from: AppletonRocks on May 14, 2013, 02:07:26 PM
Talk about losing the lead.  For the prior 10 years Oshkosh ruled.  What changed?  Yes I am an alum.  And I was there when they won 2 titles. I did not play, not even close to good enough to be on those teams.
WOW!!!!  You must have been on the 9-year plan then as that's how long it was between titles (1985-1994.) 

Remind me again Big Poppa, how good was that 1994 UWO team? ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 15, 2013, 01:03:56 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 15, 2013, 12:52:44 PM
Quote from: AppletonRocks on May 14, 2013, 02:07:26 PM
Talk about losing the lead.  For the prior 10 years Oshkosh ruled.  What changed?  Yes I am an alum.  And I was there when they won 2 titles. I did not play, not even close to good enough to be on those teams.
WOW!!!!  You must have been on the 9-year plan then as that's how long it was between titles (1985-1994.) 

Remind me again Big Poppa, how good was that 1994 UWO team? ;D

The 1994 Oshkosh was unreal... I am not certain how many all-Americans were on that roster but it was many. (Jorgensen, Leider, Zappa, Washburn, etc...) I am sure Ricky Nelson has a better take of that team.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 15, 2013, 01:26:21 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 15, 2013, 01:03:56 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 15, 2013, 12:52:44 PM
Quote from: AppletonRocks on May 14, 2013, 02:07:26 PM
Talk about losing the lead.  For the prior 10 years Oshkosh ruled.  What changed?  Yes I am an alum.  And I was there when they won 2 titles. I did not play, not even close to good enough to be on those teams.
WOW!!!!  You must have been on the 9-year plan then as that's how long it was between titles (1985-1994.) 

Remind me again Big Poppa, how good was that 1994 UWO team? ;D

The 1994 Oshkosh was unreal... I am not certain how many all-Americans were on that roster but it was many. (Jorgensen, Leider, Zappa, Washburn, etc...) I am sure Ricky Nelson has a better take of that team.
Yeah, that team was pretty good. I'm probably in the minority, but I think the '95 team was even better. Hard to argue when one has a national title and the other didn't.

Sure was fun to watch the '13 edition hit. Brought back fun memories.

The WIAC is tough. I don't think it's a coincidence that it got tougher -- or at the very least more competitive -- when Bloom and Vodenlich arrived. That's not a knock on predecessors or anything else. It's simply my opinion that the UWSP and UWW coaches are very good at their jobs. Just my theory as to why the WIAC has gone from a whole lot of Oshkosh from 1980-2000 to a yearly question of recruiting, returning players, etc. Morgan at Superior is leveling the conference even further.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 15, 2013, 01:43:17 PM
I think that 1995 Titan squad has four first team all-Americans in the lineup. Jorgenson and Leider were #1 and #2 in the nation in HRs that season with 42 and 25 respectively. Combine that with having to face Jarrod Washburn on the mound and it was an uphill  battle from the get-go for Carthage squad. After looosing to the Titans in the opener, we battled back to knock off Marietta (sorry Forheavendial4999) and Cortland State before falling to Methodist in the semi-finals and the right to be pounded by the Titans again.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 15, 2013, 02:24:51 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 15, 2013, 01:43:17 PM
I think that 1995 Titan squad has four first team all-Americans in the lineup. Jorgenson and Leider were #1 and #2 in the nation in HRs that season with 42 and 25 respectively. Combine that with having to face Jarrod Washburn on the mound and it was an uphill  battle from the get-go for Carthage squad. After looosing to the Titans in the opener, we battled back to knock off Marietta (sorry Forheavendial4999) and Cortland State before falling to Methodist in the semi-finals and the right to be pounded by the Titans again.

Ha no big deal...it happens. I wasn't there (I didn't get to go until the next year) but remember listening on the radio. I've heard it said that if the liner caught to end the game had been high enough to get over short, it might have gone out of the ballpark (not much of an accomplishment at the old place)...you had probably the best view in the house, what say you?

I remember going over there for BP the next year and I had the unenviable task of standing somewhere over the fence and trying to retrieve balls that went over it...there were quite a few.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 15, 2013, 02:39:12 PM
That game-ending call might be an accurate assessment. The ball flew out of that place (Salem, VA). I remmber hitting a double against Cortland that one-hopped the wall in left-center and the shortstop actually jumped for it and did not miss it by much.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on May 15, 2013, 03:53:07 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 15, 2013, 12:52:44 PM
Quote from: AppletonRocks on May 14, 2013, 02:07:26 PM
Talk about losing the lead.  For the prior 10 years Oshkosh ruled.  What changed?  Yes I am an alum.  And I was there when they won 2 titles. I did not play, not even close to good enough to be on those teams.
WOW!!!!  You must have been on the 9-year plan then as that's how long it was between titles (1985-1994.) 

Remind me again Big Poppa, how good was that 1994 UWO team? ;D

I was there in 1985 and they were always in the Championships in Marietta--not always winning, you are correct.  It seemed like if they weren't winning they were right there.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 15, 2013, 05:02:10 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 15, 2013, 02:39:12 PM
That game-ending call might be an accurate assessment. The ball flew out of that place (Salem, VA). I remmber hitting a double against Cortland that one-hopped the wall in left-center and the shortstop actually jumped for it and did not miss it by much.

Then they moved to the new stadium and it felt like you were playing in a canyon.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 15, 2013, 10:21:17 PM
WIAC 2-0 after Day #1 of the Midwest Regional....

Unfortunately they have to square off against each other tomorrow in a Winner's bracket game, so one of them will pick up their first loss.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 15, 2013, 10:51:30 PM
I like herbst a lot this year and feel good about points chances tomorrow however I don't know that point will put up many runs against lambert he owned them earlier this year. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 16, 2013, 01:24:20 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 15, 2013, 01:03:56 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 15, 2013, 12:52:44 PM
Quote from: AppletonRocks on May 14, 2013, 02:07:26 PM
Talk about losing the lead.  For the prior 10 years Oshkosh ruled.  What changed?  Yes I am an alum.  And I was there when they won 2 titles. I did not play, not even close to good enough to be on those teams.
WOW!!!!  You must have been on the 9-year plan then as that's how long it was between titles (1985-1994.) 

Remind me again Big Poppa, how good was that 1994 UWO team? ;D

The 1994 Oshkosh was unreal... I am not certain how many all-Americans were on that roster but it was many. (Jorgensen, Leider, Zappa, Washburn, etc...) I am sure Ricky Nelson has a better take of that team.
Was just giving you a hard time because of your comments regarding that group of Titans in the past.....

BTW-Zappa, Washburn, and Lieder were All Americans in 1995.  Pitcher Mike Gasper and 3B Aaron Richartz were All Americans with Jorgensen.  Coincidentally, Richartz (along with 1995 All American Pitcher Kevin Mlodik) was just elected to the Titans Hall of Fame earlier this month.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 8404DOC on May 17, 2013, 05:55:47 PM
Looks like the Lechnir era at UWO is over.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 17, 2013, 06:05:44 PM
That's too bad he's one of the greatest coaches of all time and has developed some tremendous players.  Any players leaving for point?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: thrunt01 on May 17, 2013, 06:30:34 PM
Quote from: 8404DOC on May 17, 2013, 05:55:47 PM
Looks like the Lechnir era at UWO is over.

What makes you say that? If you're stating the product has dropped off, sure but I haven't heard anything of him leaving.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 17, 2013, 07:22:43 PM
Quote from: thrunt01 on May 17, 2013, 06:30:34 PM
Quote from: 8404DOC on May 17, 2013, 05:55:47 PM
Looks like the Lechnir era at UWO is over.
What makes you say that? If you're stating the product has dropped off, sure but I haven't heard anything of him leaving.
Considering the source is current players dad, I have a feeling you might hear something AFTER the players in this case.... 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 17, 2013, 07:28:00 PM
Jeez...if this is true you have UWO, ECSU and Chapman that may all be looking outside the program for a coach at the same time. Unbelievable.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 8404DOC on May 17, 2013, 08:03:26 PM
Players were notified prior to my post, I would never speculate on something like that. He is/was a great hard nosed coach, hate to see him go.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 17, 2013, 08:16:47 PM
Did he retire or did the ad let him go?  There were rumors all season that the current ad didn't want him around
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 17, 2013, 08:18:17 PM
Quote from: 8404DOC on May 17, 2013, 08:03:26 PM
Players were notified prior to my post, I would never speculate on something like that. He is/was a great hard nosed coach, hate to see him go.
Ditto!!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 8404DOC on May 17, 2013, 09:31:05 PM
Heard his contract was up in June.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: thrunt01 on May 17, 2013, 11:28:59 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 17, 2013, 07:22:43 PM
Quote from: thrunt01 on May 17, 2013, 06:30:34 PM
Quote from: 8404DOC on May 17, 2013, 05:55:47 PM
Looks like the Lechnir era at UWO is over.
What makes you say that? If you're stating the product has dropped off, sure but I haven't heard anything of him leaving.
Considering the source is current players dad, I have a feeling you might hear something AFTER the players in this case....

That does make sense. That being said I had no idea that 8404DOC was a player's father and was shocked by the news that seemed to come out of nowhere in both a message board and real world sense. So I checked the UWO athletics page and didn't see anything about a resignation thus my question.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 18, 2013, 02:06:27 PM
So... who are the favorites for the Oshkosh job?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 18, 2013, 02:09:58 PM
How about Kimberly's head baseball coach?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 18, 2013, 02:29:27 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 18, 2013, 02:09:58 PM
How about Kimberly's head baseball coach?
Quote from: ShineTime on May 18, 2013, 02:09:58 PM
How about Kimberly's head baseball coach?

"Scooter" McGinnis??? He is also the AD at Kimberly. I am guessing he'd have to take a big paycut to make it happen. I was thinking of another former Appleton West Terror in either Matt Erickson or his father Bruce...

I am guessing that having that much tradition at UW-O, there will be a lot pressure to hire a Titan (Which does not bode well for McGinnis who played collegiately at Xavier, or Erickson who played at Arkansas).

Thoughts of either Jarrod Washburn or one of the Jorgensen brothers taking the reins?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 18, 2013, 02:43:41 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 18, 2013, 02:29:27 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 18, 2013, 02:09:58 PM
How about Kimberly's head baseball coach?
Quote from: ShineTime on May 18, 2013, 02:09:58 PM
How about Kimberly's head baseball coach?

"Scooter" McGinnis??? He is also the AD at Kimberly. I am guessing he'd have to take a big paycut to make it happen. I was thinking of another former Appleton West Terror in either Matt Erickson or his father Bruce...

I am guessing that having that much tradition at UW-O, there will be a lot pressure to hire a Titan (Which does not bode well for McGinnis who played collegiately at Xavier, or Erickson who played at Arkansas).

Thoughts of either Jarrod Washburn or one of the Jorgensen brothers taking the reins ?
Yes, but that thought came from me. I had other thoughts, but that was one of the first. I doubt Sims cares about my thoughts.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 18, 2013, 08:13:28 PM
Article about lechnir in Oshkosh northwestern today states his contract up June 30 and not being renewed.  What a joke lets not renew a guy who has had how many guys sign professional contracts and won how many games?  They had a very good core coming back too next year I have a hard time believing some of those guys won't leave now.  It's a sad day to be a d3 baseball fan I loved watching him coach.  As a pointer fan I'm really nervous that bloom won't be around much longer given his success.  Only bright spot is perhaps Jeremy jirschele would be fittin to get the job coaching under bloom and playing for lechnir and better yet his father being tied to major league system.  I just can't see bloom staying too much longer after getting passed up for ad and im guessing he could coach at a higher level if he chose to do so.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 18, 2013, 08:17:24 PM
Anyone think ex Lawrence coach korey Krueger would be in running for Oshkosh?  Talk about a guy who is motivated and knows the game I think he would be a great fit to be honest. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 18, 2013, 09:21:48 PM
Not sure Krueger would be a good fit. I cannot imagine a non Titan even getting a look at this job.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: thrunt01 on May 19, 2013, 10:40:18 AM
First off I am surprised by the fact that is a non-renewal situation instead of a resignation on the part of Lechnir.

As for a future coaching search, UWO went through the same thing last summer with basketball and many names previously associated with both programs were floated out there but in the end it went to two outsiders. I have a feeling the same thing will happen this time.

What Sims showed in his basketball hires is he likes coaches with connections to the area who can recruit but he isn't afraid to at least look at folks from far away.

What that means for specific coaches I don't know and maybe the situation regarding baseball is more different than I know but based on last summer that is what I see going down.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 19, 2013, 03:43:44 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 18, 2013, 08:13:28 PM
Article about lechnir in Oshkosh northwestern today states his contract up June 30 and not being renewed.  What a joke lets not renew a guy who has had how many guys sign professional contracts and won how many games?  They had a very good core coming back too next year I have a hard time believing some of those guys won't leave now.  It's a sad day to be a d3 baseball fan I loved watching him coach.  As a pointer fan I'm really nervous that bloom won't be around much longer given his success.  Only bright spot is perhaps Jeremy jirschele would be fittin to get the job coaching under bloom and playing for lechnir and better yet his father being tied to major league system.  I just can't see bloom staying too much longer after getting passed up for ad and im guessing he could coach at a higher level if he chose to do so.


Where is Bloom going to go?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 19, 2013, 04:43:34 PM
I'm not saying anything is in the wings but know over the past few years I've heard he's always looking to move up.  He was a candidate for point ad job so I'm guessing if he can get ad job somewhere he's gone.  Of course being a pointer fan I'm hoping he stays and am also hoping point get a new stadium in next three years.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on May 19, 2013, 04:56:37 PM
Quote from: thrunt01 on May 19, 2013, 10:40:18 AM
First off I am surprised by the fact that is a non-renewal situation instead of a resignation on the part of Lechnir.

As for a future coaching search, UWO went through the same thing last summer with basketball and many names previously associated with both programs were floated out there but in the end it went to two outsiders. I have a feeling the same thing will happen this time.

What Sims showed in his basketball hires is he likes coaches with connections to the area who can recruit but he isn't afraid to at least look at folks from far away.

What that means for specific coaches I don't know and maybe the situation regarding baseball is more different than I know but based on last summer that is what I see going down.

With basketball, they got rid of a coach who seemed to have checked out, not working hard on recruiting and ended his career with an 0-something season.  Pat Juckem was an outstanding candidate and has already done more recruiting work in one year than Van Dellen did in 10 years prior.  Sims had to make a change there, Ted was a disaster.   

I have no opinion on the Lechnir decision, just wondered why the Titans are no longer competing well nationally and in their own conference.

I have heard from several folks that the lady vice chancellor who is overseeing the AD (Sims) at Oshkosh is famous for trying to destroy the athletic department at LaCrosse so maybe she is meddling here too.  ???

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on May 20, 2013, 10:00:07 AM
The loss of Coach Lechnir is a shame. A great coach with a little too much of the old style approach. Kids today are going to run and hide as soon as anyone raises their voice at them. I will say that as a St. Scholastica alum, Coach Baggs held him in the highest regard and as he was building the Saints program through the mid and late 90's, Oshkosh was the model he wanted to follow. As for the the non-renewal of the contract, I will bet that he was given the option to resign, but knowing what I know about him I will bet he said no. His style isn't for everyone, but never question what the man stands for when it comes to his teams, and the players that made it through those 4 years with him will all tell you what he means to them reaches far beyond a baseball coach. I believe by making Oshkosh get rid of him he is going to take a lot of alumni support with him. I do not see anyone with Lechnir ties getting this job, the school wants to break that connection and if I were an alum and they came to me I would not even entertain the idea with the way my former coach was handled. Just my thoughts, Coach Lechnir is one of the best and will be sadly missed.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 20, 2013, 11:05:57 AM
The D3baseball.com All Midwest Region team has been named. 

http://d3baseball.com/awards/all-region/2013/midwest

WIAC players include:

Stevens Point: 
First team: Ryan Schilter, Jacob Herbst and J.P. Feyereisen
Third team: Sean Gerber

Oshkosh:
First team: Michael Swift, Tyler Kamps
Second team: Bobby Kachel

WHITEWATER:
First team: Marty Herum
Second team: David Cladis, Dylan Friend, Jared Fon, Michael Pierce
Third team: Tom Kerndt

Congrats to all
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 20, 2013, 06:27:10 PM
Anyone shocked with Berber on 3rd and not 2nd team?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 20, 2013, 06:36:17 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 20, 2013, 06:27:10 PM
Anyone shocked with Berber on 3rd and not 2nd team?
Kachel-.386 BA, 11 HR, 55 RBI, .780 SLUG, .500 OBP
Gerber-.369 BA, 12 HR, 60 RBI, .657 SLUG, .468 OBP

Gerber leads in HR/RBI while Kachel leads in everything else....

In all honesty, you could flip a coin between the two.....  Nothing to really be "shocked" about though!!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 21, 2013, 07:39:20 AM
Coach of the year had to be difficult.  I would've gone with bloom not just because of making the World Series though.  I'm guessing very few people thought point would do as well as they did given they didn't make regionals last year and lost cam seidl to injury in the fall.  They added some great freshman but really didn't add any big time transfers.  I was thinking even a possible 4th place finish in the Wiac given what lacrosse returned.  Either way hard to argue against st Thomas's coach getting it even though I have a huge issue with the decision to pitch all American Dylan Thomas 1 inning at regionals.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MIACLUV on May 21, 2013, 12:54:25 PM
Any new news on the Lechnir situation? I would love an Oshkosh perspective on this, because this whole situation just reeks of a personal dislike by the AD towards a great coach.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on May 21, 2013, 03:52:25 PM
No insight MIACLUV.  Sorry.  No more about hoops as previously discussed.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 22, 2013, 06:41:02 PM
Coach Lechnir held press conference today.  He was joined by former players Jarrod Washburn, Craig Lieder, Brian Bott, Kevin Mlodik, Craig Glysch, Kevin Grater, Casey Kopitzke, Jack Taschner, and Mike Waupoose just to name a few.

http://www.thenorthwestern.com/article/20130522/OSH0201/305220384
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 22, 2013, 06:57:40 PM
Where's lechnirs next coaching job?  There's no way he's going without work for too long.  I'm more than happy to have bloom as the pointer coach but if bloom leaves for better I would love to see lechnir at point. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 22, 2013, 07:47:21 PM
Lechnir IS from Mosinee.... Just up the road from Point. I can read it now..."Local boy comes home."
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 22, 2013, 10:31:16 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 22, 2013, 07:47:21 PM
Lechnir IS from Mosinee.... Just up the road from Point. I can read it now..."Local boy comes home."

Do you think that would happen though if for some reason Bloom left (D-I job, AD, whatever)?

All the gaudy career numbers and pro alumni aside, the fact is that UWO is now a pretty clear 3rd out of 7 in the WIAC (and UWL not far off), and not generally a regional-caliber program anymore. I'm surprised that this move is well, a surprise. It's not that it's been 20 years since a championship, but that UWO has fallen out of contention for one. If you want to put a D-I comparison to it for reference...I think a good one would be Tubby Smith.

I do think he should have been given the option to step down on his own terms, the time he's spent at the school deserves at least that...but maybe he was and refused it.

I have to think Jirschele has a good shot at one of these jobs, now or in the future. Has to be interesting for him...does he go after the UWO rebuilding project, or if Bloom is indeed not long for SP, wait that out and move up to the top job at UWSP and try to get them to the top of the mountain (if Bloom doesn't get there first). If a Titan has a shot at the job, I would think he's the one if he makes himself a candidate.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 22, 2013, 11:39:44 PM
WFRV out of Green Bay did a much better job with the press conference today compared to the link I posted earlier. 

Couple of interesting quotes from the link, most notably what Jarrod Washburn had to say near the end.

http://wearegreenbay.com/fulltext?nxd_id=197622
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on May 23, 2013, 12:07:23 AM
I only met Lechnir once, on a recruiting visit there, and he was warm and friendly as might be expected in such a situation. He was justifiably proud of his program's history and facilities.

Since then we've watched and heard him with some cringe-worthy amusement from the other side of the field.  I also heard reports from a friend whose son was a multi-year starter at UWO.  The stories of what might best be described as Lechnir's mind games, verbal abuse, intimidation and pettiness were sadly mind-boggling.  Was that ever a legit way to motivate young baseball players? Maybe you could get away with that when your roster is stocked with All Americans and recruiting takes care of itself.  But not so much with the connected players of this century when word spreads so quickly and there are many viable options to play elsewhere. They don't care about any Oshkosh baseball legacy, nor should they. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like more players quit or transfer out of UWO than any other WIAC program.

At any rate, I doubt Lechnir's dismissal is tied to his team's won-loss record. It's not exactly BigTen football. Maybe the stories or complaints piled up, or arrogance shown thru, or an administrator just concluded "who needs this?" and that was that. Please pardon the pure unfounded speculation there.

It will be very interesting to see what comes out if he follows through on the threat of a lawsuit. That usually results in career suicide no matter how it ends up.  Who hires a guy who sued his last employer?  It might be best to just take his shiny career record and try landing at another school, maybe even a D2 program.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 23, 2013, 01:47:48 AM
Not having any personal experience, I wasn't wanting to get into any of that part of it.

Coaches are really going to have to mind their behavior from now on after the Rice thing. They should have been anyway, but administrators have a different level of attention and concern to those things now.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 25, 2013, 07:07:01 PM
Former UW Oshkosh Pitcher Luke Westphal signed a professional contract with the Gateway Grizzlies (Illinois) of the Frontier League today.

Best of luck to Luke as he continues to pursue his dream!!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 26, 2013, 10:42:14 AM
Seriously guys how awesome are Jim Dixon and pat Coleman?  I could listen to them all day.  Congrats to Dan Douglas becoming point all time leading hitter and for point winning first two games in dramatic fashion. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 26, 2013, 03:00:21 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 26, 2013, 10:42:14 AM
Seriously guys how awesome are Jim Dixon and pat Coleman?  I could listen to them all day.  Congrats to Dan Douglas becoming point all time leading hitter and for point winning first two games in dramatic fashion.

Thanks -- we appreciate that. We're trying to keep them to 12 minutes or less, however. :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 27, 2013, 08:04:46 PM
How dominating was Ryan Schilter defensively this weekend?  How do you replace a guy like that who can do it all?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 27, 2013, 09:39:11 PM
So how does point replace this group of seniors next year?  I don't know if they have a starting caliber catcher on this years roster seeing Schilter caught nearly every inning.  Pitching should be championship caliber with jp seidl messenger Frederick stroik wendorf as starters and bullpen with flood Watson and prebelski as well as Nash.  I'm guessing rose moves to short Spetz to second steldt will be at third and Kranz first.  Outfield will stay same with Barnes gregorich and Cody.  Guckenberg will be dh.  Hoping for some outstanding juco transfers and incoming freshman it was nice seeing some depth on this years team.  Anyone know of any incoming players? 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 29, 2013, 12:27:03 PM
Five WIAC athletes named to the American Baseball Coaches Association 2013 All American team:

First Team: Ryan Schilter, Stevens Point
Second Team: Marty Herum, WHITEWATER
                       Bobby Kachel, Oshkosh
Third Team: Sean Gerber, Stevens Point
                   Tyler Kamps, Oshkosh

Congrats to all.


WIAC athletes playing in the Northwoods League:

Stevens Point: JP Feyereisen, Brad Storik, Riley Spetz : Wisconsin Rapids Rafters
                       Jimmy Coady: Green Bay BullFrogs
LaCrosse: Ben Cejka : LaCrosse Loggers
WHITEWATER:  Jared Fon, Marty Herum, Mikole Pierce : Lakeshore Chinooks
                                                        Justin Mortenson : Green Bay BullFrogs
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 29, 2013, 01:36:56 PM
The ABCA Press Release was BRUTAL!!!!  You'd think they could at least get the kids names right, muchless spelled correctly!!!

It's Ryan Schilter (not Dan Schulter) and Bobby Kachel (not Kaschel.)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 29, 2013, 06:19:39 PM
Some of the school names aren't even spelled correctly ...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 30, 2013, 09:26:17 AM
My apologies for having perpetuated the error.  I'm just not that familiar with Schilter though you'd think being a WHITEWATER person I'd get Kachel correct.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on June 02, 2013, 12:05:53 AM
So who gets the OshVegas job?   ???
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 02, 2013, 04:52:02 PM
Jeremy jirschele?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on June 03, 2013, 12:50:11 PM
Quote from: AppletonRocks on June 02, 2013, 12:05:53 AM
So who gets the OshVegas job?   ???

My thinking is that they have to move quickly in order to keep recruits. If I were Point or Whitewater (or La Crosse), I'd be calling the Oshkosh recruits every day.

By the way, for those who have contacted me about my own interest in returning home to coach at Oshkosh, I have no desire:

1.  Not interested in returning to the college game right now
2.  Never follow the legend... follow the guy that follows the legend.
3.  My heart would never let me wear a Titan uniform without a Carthage shirt underneath ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on June 03, 2013, 03:47:04 PM
I believe Chapman is also on their slide. 2011 in Championship game. Missed Regional Playoffs in 2012, 2013 and Head Coach resigns. Linfield is the power team in the West now and will be for several years IMO
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: forheavendial4999 on June 03, 2013, 09:43:52 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on June 03, 2013, 12:50:11 PM
Quote from: AppletonRocks on June 02, 2013, 12:05:53 AM
So who gets the OshVegas job?   ???

My thinking is that they have to move quickly in order to keep recruits. If I were Point or Whitewater (or La Crosse), I'd be calling the Oshkosh recruits every day.

By the way, for those who have contacted me about my own interest in returning home to coach at Oshkosh, I have no desire:

1.  Not interested in returning to the college game right now
2.  Never follow the legend... follow the guy that follows the legend.

Wouldn't that be Tiedemann to Lechnir?

Brian Brewer has done pretty well following the legend. :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on June 05, 2013, 01:09:14 PM
Concordia Wisconsin hires head coach away from UW-Superior...

http://www.cuwfalcons.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/releases/201306057w7ywg
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: forheavendial4999 on June 06, 2013, 11:33:37 AM
After the year they endured up there, I'd be looking to leave too. Seems like he did a good job making a really tough situation respectable.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on June 06, 2013, 12:47:50 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on June 05, 2013, 01:09:14 PM
Concordia Wisconsin hires head coach away from UW-Superior...

http://www.cuwfalcons.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/releases/201306057w7ywg

Great hire for Concordia. Should change the NathCon a bit in the coming years.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 06, 2013, 03:14:56 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on June 06, 2013, 12:47:50 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on June 05, 2013, 01:09:14 PM
Concordia Wisconsin hires head coach away from UW-Superior...

http://www.cuwfalcons.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/releases/201306057w7ywg

Great hire for Concordia. Should change the NathCon a bit in the coming years.
You mean the NACC?   ;D

http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2013/06/nathc-changes-name
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on June 06, 2013, 03:19:44 PM
NACC, you mean. Still think they should have just gone all in with NathCon and made it official. NACC sounds like a community college.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 16, 2013, 05:54:14 PM
So what's the word on Oshkosh I actually heard today that korey Krueger was interested but don't know if he interviewed.  Wouldn't one think he would be able to get a ton of talent from the valley there given his work over the years around there?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 17, 2013, 06:19:39 PM
So details have finally emerged about why Coach Lechnir was non-renewed....

http://www.fox11online.com/dpp/sports/lechnir-explains-why-contract-wasnt-renewed-at-uw-oshkosh

Looks like it is all about funding....

I find #11 to be spot on!!!!!!

This is a public institution, with public employees, and they have failed miserably in their responsibility to the public. The donors for Alumni Stadium are sick over this situation. The alumni of the baseball program want nothing more than to support the University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh well into the future, are left wondering if they will every step foot on the campus again. The contractors who donated their time and materials are disgusted by the treatment of Coach Lechnir and the entire project team by the university.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 17, 2013, 07:53:54 PM
What more can be said than that's politics for you.  How is all of this going to affect recruiting?  Are they losing any transfers?  If lechnir is indeed done I hope Oshkosh becomes the new bottom dweller in the Wiac.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 18, 2013, 09:29:23 AM
What a freakin' mess.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: voice on June 18, 2013, 11:54:28 AM
Quote from: cubs on June 17, 2013, 06:19:39 PM
So details have finally emerged about why Coach Lechnir was non-renewed....

http://www.fox11online.com/dpp/sports/lechnir-explains-why-contract-wasnt-renewed-at-uw-oshkosh

Looks like it is all about funding....

I find #11 to be spot on!!!!!!

This is a public institution, with public employees, and they have failed miserably in their responsibility to the public. The donors for Alumni Stadium are sick over this situation. The alumni of the baseball program want nothing more than to support the University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh well into the future, are left wondering if they will every step foot on the campus again. The contractors who donated their time and materials are disgusted by the treatment of Coach Lechnir and the entire project team by the university.

Much like the old VH1 "Behind the Music" documentaries, the Coach Lechnir allegations could be called the "Behind the Firing" Documentary. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 20, 2013, 03:26:14 PM
Quote from: OshDude on February 21, 2008, 10:23:58 PM
Quote from: Spence on February 21, 2008, 08:36:57 PM
Quote from: OshDude on February 20, 2008, 10:07:18 PM
Quote from: Spence on February 20, 2008, 07:46:51 PM
Quote from: OshDude on February 20, 2008, 05:51:03 PM
Quote from: janesvilleflash on February 20, 2008, 08:04:40 AM
Some speed in the WW outfield?

http://wisconsinpreps.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=755103

My only concern is he said he chose WW in part because of its "great journalism program." Too bad he didn't choose the "best journalism program," which is at Oshkosh.

Maybe their outfield was already full. I'll let you explore which was more important for a kid transferring from D-I with one year of eligibility left.

Do I really need to use smiley faces? Turn it down a notch.

Just saying...transferring does not help with regard to academic progress if you keep the same major. So the academically most responsible thing to do would have been to stay where he was, and that he's transferring with one year to in a degree program tells me that there were other reasons, which seems fairly obvious.

I guess I just picked up on an empty BS quote and called it out for what it is.

What's BS and empty is your capability to see a intrastate jab when you see one. Why be difficult? Because you can? Lame.

Nowhere was I even remotely writing about what you are now writing. You can go on having an argument by yourself, debate captain.
Interesting follow-up to the string of posts (page 30 and 31 of the thread) about three years ago!!!!   :o  (LONG, but good read!!!)

http://www.sbnation.com/longform/2013/6/6/4392208/montaous-walton-profile-fake-online-prospect?utm_source=sbnation&utm_medium=nextclicks&utm_campaign=articlebottom

http://onmilwaukee.com/sports/articles/montaouswalton.html

http://www.rivals.com/content.asp?cid=755103
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 20, 2013, 05:08:03 PM
That, hands down, it the most bizarre thing I've read in a considerable amount of time.  Totally bizarre.  Thanks for posting it.  Now I've got to check and see if I posted anything about it way back when.  I don't recall it if I did.  :D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 20, 2013, 11:51:42 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on June 20, 2013, 05:08:03 PM
That, hands down, it the most bizarre thing I've read in a considerable amount of time.  Totally bizarre.  Thanks for posting it.  Now I've got to check and see if I posted anything about it way back when.  I don't recall it if I did.  :D
Not really, other than:

This addition along with the return of Prather, Petrasko, Stine and Schliewe gives WW a pretty decent set of outfielders.   Schliewe won't win too many foot races but Prather, Petrasko and Stine have pretty decent speed.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on June 24, 2013, 03:30:46 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on June 20, 2013, 05:08:03 PM
That, hands down, it the most bizarre thing I've read in a considerable amount of time.  Totally bizarre.  Thanks for posting it.  Now I've got to check and see if I posted anything about it way back when.  I don't recall it if I did.  :D

I cannot even imagine anyone having the creativity to write a fictional story as bizarre as that... truth is strager than fiction. Unreal.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on June 24, 2013, 03:43:22 PM
Any word on the Oshkosh coaching job? One has to think it would be resolved soon in order to at least give the guy a chance to recruit a bit.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on June 24, 2013, 09:57:50 PM
Wouldn't shock me to see Lechnir request a temporary injunction to block UWO from making a new hire. He still wants to stay on and that would force UWO to make their case in a public courtroom.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on July 09, 2013, 10:55:33 AM
While in Appleton over the weekend, I talked with a few Oshkosh baseball alums(and personal friends of mine) who all appeared frustrated by two things:

1. That Lechnir was let go and...
2. That Oshkosh is dragging the search out longer than expected...

It seems to me that if they knew that Lechnir was not going to be renewed, they could have got the ball rolling a bit earlier than it appears.

Anyone have a feel for where the program is leaning in terms of a new coach?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: KitchenSink on July 10, 2013, 11:16:51 PM
Whoa - might be getting a bit ugly in Oshkosh:

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/statecolleges/ousted-uw-oshkosh-baseball-coach-tom-lechnir-fighting-back-b9950576z1-215006351.html

Long article and the Univ doesn't look good in it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: thrunt01 on July 10, 2013, 11:22:16 PM
If nothing else Lechnir is crushing the University in the PR battle. It's not even close.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on July 11, 2013, 09:45:39 AM
That all sounds really, really ugly.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on July 11, 2013, 11:20:43 AM
Lechnir will win this and someone will be fired as a result.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on July 12, 2013, 12:46:15 PM
From JS Online....

Wauwatosa West pitcher Austin Jones will no longer play at UW-Oshkosh since the program did not renew the contract of longtime coach Tom Lechnir.

"I've been looking at some Division I schools," Jones said. "I talked to Northern Illinois and there's a few other schools that kind of just come into play. I'm still exploring my options, but I'll be done with it soon."

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/preps/focus-on-summer-baseball-b9940770z1-212865031.html

Probably not the first player to leave Oshkosh since news broke, and more than likely not the last....  2014 might be a repeat of 2010 where Oshkosh missed the WIAC Tournament for the only time since the tournament started.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on July 12, 2013, 04:47:17 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on July 11, 2013, 11:20:43 AM
Lechnir will win this and someone will be fired as a result.
I will put my money on it being Sims.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on July 17, 2013, 03:23:51 PM
Something clearly is wrong in Titan-land. It certainly appears there's an unusual amount of staff turnover in Oshkosh right now...

Lechnir of course, but UWO doesn't have a press release posted on that.

Today - http://www.uwoshkoshtitans.com/sports/sball/2012-13/releases/20130716qf76ln

June 25 - http://www.uwoshkoshtitans.com/news/Francour

May 14 - http://www.uwoshkoshtitans.com/sports/wrest/2012-13/releases/2013051460jr4m
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on July 17, 2013, 05:32:36 PM
It appears they are cleaning house one program at a time.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: thrunt01 on July 17, 2013, 07:59:45 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on July 17, 2013, 03:23:51 PM
Something clearly is wrong in Titan-land. It certainly appears there's an unusual amount of staff turnover in Oshkosh right now...

Lechnir of course, but UWO doesn't have a press release posted on that.

Today - http://www.uwoshkoshtitans.com/sports/sball/2012-13/releases/20130716qf76ln

June 25 - http://www.uwoshkoshtitans.com/news/Francour

May 14 - http://www.uwoshkoshtitans.com/sports/wrest/2012-13/releases/2013051460jr4m

I get putting Stratton in because it fits the pattern but working with him professionally the reason he gave for leaving is legit. Not saying there might not be anything else going on but with his once I read the release I was like "OK that makes sense" in the cases of Francour and Suess though I still have no clue. Suess is a big loss behind the scenes as well as the head of game day events.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on July 26, 2013, 11:44:18 PM
I was told tonight that Polcyn is going to ripon with 100 percent certainty and they also got another all American transfer but I have no idea who.  Does Polcyn have to sit out a year?  Any other Oshkosh players transferring? 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 27, 2013, 12:25:54 AM
If he was eligible at the school he's leaving, he does not have to sit out a year.

There are some conferences that have rules about transferring between conference members but there's nothing regarding transfers between schools in different conferences.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on July 27, 2013, 04:04:40 PM
Thanks ripon is going to be top 20 team in country this year mark it down.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on July 28, 2013, 10:00:56 PM
Huge loss for UWW - Marty Herum has signed and reported to the Arizona Diamondbacks Rookie League team. What a hitter.
http://www.riverfallsjournal.com/content/herum-signed-arizona-diamondbacks
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on July 28, 2013, 10:13:41 PM
Congrats to Herum that will certainly hurt whitewater he's a great player.  Anyone know if Ryan Schilter is playing anywhere?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on July 28, 2013, 10:44:03 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on July 27, 2013, 04:04:40 PM
Thanks ripon is going to be top 20 team in country this year mark it down.
They still need some pitching...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on July 29, 2013, 10:31:10 AM
Quote from: cubs on July 28, 2013, 10:44:03 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on July 27, 2013, 04:04:40 PM
Thanks ripon is going to be top 20 team in country this year mark it down.
They still need some pitching...

My thought exactly. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on August 01, 2013, 03:42:27 PM
So following the June 21st application deadline, today is the day that a new Oskhosh coach was supposed to start the job. At this rate they won't have someone for the Fall session.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on August 01, 2013, 04:22:36 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on July 28, 2013, 10:13:41 PM
Congrats to Herum that will certainly hurt whitewater he's a great player.  Anyone know if Ryan Schilter is playing anywhere?

I was looking at the rosters in the Northwoods League earlier today and I didn't see Schilter's name anywhere in the South Division.  Historically the players from our league have played in the South Division.  Fon, Pierce, Mierow and Hoen are WARHAWKS playing.  Fieresien (sp?) is having a fantastic summer.  Coady, Spetz, Storik,Cryzak (sp?) and a pitcher from Stout are on rosters.  There may be some others I don't recall off hand as well.   I think there is a Titan pitcher too.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on August 01, 2013, 04:32:37 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on August 01, 2013, 04:22:36 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on July 28, 2013, 10:13:41 PM
Congrats to Herum that will certainly hurt whitewater he's a great player.  Anyone know if Ryan Schilter is playing anywhere?

I was looking at the rosters in the Northwoods League earlier today and I didn't see Schilter's name anywhere in the South Division.  Historically the players from our league have played in the South Division.  Fon, Pierce, Mierow and Hoen are WARHAWKS playing.  Fieresien (sp?) is having a fantastic summer.  Coady, Spetz, Storik,Cryzak (sp?) and a pitcher from Stout are on rosters.  There may be some others I don't recall off hand as well.
Schilter was a senior last year, and I believe the Northwoods League is only for players who still have eligibility remaining at the college level....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on August 01, 2013, 04:33:27 PM
Quote from: Babe Truth on August 01, 2013, 03:42:27 PM
So following the June 21st application deadline, today is the day that a new Oskhosh coach was supposed to start the job. At this rate they won't have someone for the Fall session.
Rumor has it that they have narrowed the list to five finalists...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on August 01, 2013, 05:04:09 PM
Care to share who the five finalists are(if you know)?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on August 02, 2013, 02:17:04 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on August 01, 2013, 05:04:09 PM
Care to share who the five finalists are(if you know)?
Don't have any concrete information, so I don't want to just put names out there and spread rumors....  All I will say is this, if a couple of the names I have heard are true, they extend from from high school to NCAA D1 in experience.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on August 02, 2013, 02:28:46 AM
Things could get VERY interesting in Oshkosh next week!!!!

Coach Lechnir's appeal is being heard Tuesday morning and needless to say, the article in the Journal Sentinel might have just been the tip of the iceberg as far as the details that were released. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on August 02, 2013, 11:59:37 AM
Quote from: cubs on August 01, 2013, 04:32:37 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on August 01, 2013, 04:22:36 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on July 28, 2013, 10:13:41 PM
Congrats to Herum that will certainly hurt whitewater he's a great player.  Anyone know if Ryan Schilter is playing anywhere?

I was looking at the rosters in the Northwoods League earlier today and I didn't see Schilter's name anywhere in the South Division.  Historically the players from our league have played in the South Division.  Fon, Pierce, Mierow and Hoen are WARHAWKS playing.  Fieresien (sp?) is having a fantastic summer.  Coady, Spetz, Storik,Cryzak (sp?) and a pitcher from Stout are on rosters.  There may be some others I don't recall off hand as well.
Schilter was a senior last year, and I believe the Northwoods League is only for players who still have eligibility remaining at the college level....

That's correct on both counts about Schilter and the NwL.   He was at the MLB tryout camp in Rockford a few weeks ago, choosing to run with the outfielders group to probably get his great speed noticed and appreciated.  I guess there's not much value in speed like that for catchers, even someone with his great overall skills.  Doesn't anyone remember Jason Kendall being a leadoff hitter and base stealing threat for the Pirates in his early days?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: thrunt01 on August 02, 2013, 03:46:22 PM
Quote from: Babe Truth on August 01, 2013, 03:42:27 PM
So following the June 21st application deadline, today is the day that a new Oskhosh coach was supposed to start the job. At this rate they won't have someone for the Fall session.

The hiring process for basketball also seemed to take a while last summer so I am not surprised. Looking forward to hearing the results of that appeal tuesday morning. That might be another reason not to announce anything, puts the university in a even worse situation if they name a coach or even finalists and end up bringing back Lechnir.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on August 02, 2013, 04:38:19 PM
Any chance that Appleton West's Bruce Erickson and Kimberly's Ryan McGinnis are on that list? Two local HS guys with tons of success. Maybe even consider Wisconsin T-rats manager Matt Erickson. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on August 02, 2013, 06:00:06 PM
Quote from: Babe Truth on August 02, 2013, 11:59:37 AM

That's correct on both counts about Schilter and the NwL.   He was at the MLB tryout camp in Rockford a few weeks ago, choosing to run with the outfielders group to probably get his great speed noticed and appreciated.  I guess there's not much value in speed like that for catchers, even someone with his great overall skills.  Doesn't anyone remember Jason Kendall being a leadoff hitter and base stealing threat for the Pirates in his early days?

I remember Jason Kendall in the minors but did not stay long at single A.

FYI - not all summer leagues have that same limitation.  The Alaska league has had their share of players well past college and saw Spaceman Lee throw seven a couple years ago.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on August 02, 2013, 10:34:38 PM
How about jeremy jirschele would he have a chance?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on August 03, 2013, 01:24:48 AM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on August 02, 2013, 06:00:06 PM
FYI - not all summer leagues have that same limitation.  The Alaska league has had their share of players well past college and saw Spaceman Lee throw seven a couple years ago.

Yeah, there's a couple of such leagues in the Midwest too. The Frontier League is heavily into Illinois and the American Assn. is far flung from Gary to El Paso to Winnipeg, with the St. Paul Saints familiar to most fans. Seeing Darryl Strawberry launch a couple towering longballs for the Saints in a game in Madison years ago when he was on the comeback trail was pretty memorable.   
It must take a pretty dedicated guy who's not quite ready to give up the dream to be willing to endure bus rides like the 1700 miles from Laredo to Winnipeg.  The pay is so awful that I think it could only be called semi-pro baseball.  I wonder how the leagues avoid minimum wage regulations.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 03, 2013, 10:19:42 AM
That's a professional league, however. The other summer leagues being referenced are amateur leagues.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on August 04, 2013, 06:24:34 PM
Looks like pointer pitcher Ben messenger pitched for ash port legion this summer and dominated.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on August 04, 2013, 11:58:18 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on August 04, 2013, 06:24:34 PM
Looks like Titan pitcher Ben messenger pitched for ash port legion this summer and dominated.
FIFY!!!

I would hope so!!!

The line-ups he faced this summer were likely a far cry from the ones he had success against last spring during his Pointer season or will be seeing in the future for UWO.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on August 06, 2013, 09:33:39 AM
Quote from: cubs on August 02, 2013, 02:28:46 AM
Things could get VERY interesting in Oshkosh next week!!!!

Coach Lechnir's appeal is being heard Tuesday morning and needless to say, the article in the Journal Sentinel might have just been the tip of the iceberg as far as the details that were released.

Well... Today is the day! Anyone have a feeling one way or the other on Lechnir's appeal? I can only imagine the tension on campus if he is reinstated. I look forward to wading the result of the case on here. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: thrunt01 on August 06, 2013, 02:14:43 PM
http://www.thenorthwestern.com/videonetwork/2589289666001 Here is the opening statement from Lechnir.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on August 06, 2013, 03:19:31 PM
This is going to be interesting.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on August 06, 2013, 07:04:06 PM
Only news station in the Green Bay area to post anything on their site thus far:

http://www.fox11online.com/dpp/news/local/fox_cities/former-uw-oshkosh-coach-appeals-for-job
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on August 06, 2013, 08:15:27 PM
I don't see how they'll be able to hire anyone new until this thing is resolved.  If it ends up in court that could be some time from now.  Who's going to want to take a position that they might end up losing if it went to court and Lechnir prevailed.    Maybe they could find an interim person on his current staff who would be willing to fill in but I don't see anyone from outside thinking this is a good spot.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: thrunt01 on August 06, 2013, 08:25:08 PM
Not much new but here is another outlet's report. http://www.thenorthwestern.com/article/20130806/OSH0101/130806020/UWO-denies-coach-s-claim-he-fired-whistleblowing-story-video-
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on August 06, 2013, 10:37:01 PM
I'm all for lechnir getting job but am confused.  Don't coaches get **** canned all the time?  I don't understand how he could just get his job back or why he would even want it back with the way he's been treated.  Why don't he just take another job maybe even a d1 job where he belongs?  He's accomplished so much in d3 why stick around and deal with all the non sense?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on August 07, 2013, 12:56:33 PM
Doesn't he have children (or a child) still in a local high school?  Also if what I was told earlier is correct he is a year or so away from being fully vested in the state's retirement program.  Those might be reasons he wants to stay.  Also I don't know him personally but the impression I've always had is that he isn't the type to be pushed around by anyone. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on August 15, 2013, 12:31:56 PM
My updates on the Oshkosh vs Lechnir situation?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on August 16, 2013, 12:53:41 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on August 01, 2013, 05:04:09 PM
Care to share who the five finalists are(if you know)?
UW-Oshkosh sets 2 of 4 finalists for baseball:
-Bob Morgan, Former University of Indian Head Coach (Won 1000 Games)
-Kevin Ritsche, Head Coach at Winston-Salem St. (Played at St. Scholastica)

http://www.uwoshkoshtitans.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/releases/20130816hrpt6x

Other two finalists to be announced on Monday....
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Post by: cubs on August 16, 2013, 07:35:59 PM
And Ritsche promptly pulls his name out from consideration....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on August 16, 2013, 10:30:46 PM
So does this mean lechnir for sure is done I'm rather confused.  Did I miss the decision on appeal?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on August 16, 2013, 11:44:30 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on August 16, 2013, 10:30:46 PM
So does this mean lechnir for sure is done I'm rather confused.  Did I miss the decision on appeal?
Appeal had mixed results....

The committee concluded that Lechnir's side adequately proved that his program was sufficient in "Student Athlete Retention and Academic Success" and "Community Relations and Engagement" despite those being reasons by the university for the coach's dismissal.  The other two factors under debate were "Fundraising" and "Administrative Duties" and the committee decided that Lechnir "failed to carry his burden of persuasion" on those topics.

Because the results were mixed, the committee was unable to make a "specific and clear recommendation" to Chancellor Richard Wells, who will now make the decision alone.


http://www.wearegreenbay.com/1fulltext-sports/uw-oshkosh-ready-to-interview-baseball-coaching-candidates-lechnir-still-awaiting-appeal-decision/d/1fulltext-sports/qVDlDiS25ECpnUMC_DRjug
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on August 19, 2013, 12:28:54 PM
Coach Lechnir's appeal denied by Chancellor Wells....

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/statecolleges/uw-oshkosh-cancellor-affirms-dismissal-of-baseball-coach-tom-lechnir-b9978721z1-220214431.html
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on August 19, 2013, 03:24:11 PM
Former Whitewater standout and current North Park coach Kevin Tomasiewicz and Mount Union Pitching Coach Evan Agona other two finalists for UWO job...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on August 20, 2013, 07:08:52 PM
Now the guy who dropped out wants back in.  I hope lechnir gets a good chunk of money after all this nonsense and I'm not one for sue happy people.  He was clearly wrongfully terminated
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on August 21, 2013, 11:44:47 AM
How many DIII baseball coaches over the past 12 months that have won National Championships, ran succesful programs and left under less that ideal conditions?

My count is at 3.   It is a whole new world out there today and the politics and political correctness now far out way any type of sucess and support you have from your players. This is not a good thing in my opinon and just a sad direction that many things are going.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on August 22, 2013, 02:37:32 PM
Does anyone think its possible a higher up took that missing money and pocketed it tried covering it by using lechnir?  I've done thousands of investigations in my professional career and this whole story is beyond fishy. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on August 22, 2013, 05:01:02 PM
Isn't Lechnir's position that the funds were misappropriated and used for other aspects of the developement of the athletic complex rather than applied to his baseball project?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on August 22, 2013, 08:12:24 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on August 22, 2013, 05:01:02 PM
Isn't Lechnir's position that the funds were misappropriated and used for other aspects of the developement of the athletic complex rather than applied to his baseball project?
That would be correct....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on August 22, 2013, 09:00:43 PM
I guess my point is does anyone think the so called shortage could've been pocketed?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on August 23, 2013, 11:07:47 AM
Anything is possible, but I think the more likely scenario is that money earmarked for the baseball project was diverted elsewhere.

And technically, in and of itself, that's not illegal for a school to do. Once you donate money to a school, really the school is not legally obligated to use the money the way you wanted. Once you give it away, it's theirs.

Now, that said, in 99% of the cases, schools will use money earmarked for a project toward that project, because clearly diverting earmarked funds will REALLY make donors angry. Which will then create long-term problems for future fund-raising campaigns. When schools do need to divert funds they almost always call the donors and ask permission to re-purpose their donations. Diverting donations into other projects isn't illegal, but it's definitely bad business practice.

And, if you divert funds and then lie about that fact as a justification to fire an employee, THAT is illegal.

Ultimately, that's what the whole case comes down to. Was donated money earmarked specifically for the baseball stadium (Lechnir's position) or was that money earmarked for the entire outdoor facility project (UWO's position)? At best, there was a miscommunication of how this donated money was supposed to be used. At worst, someone moved funds around and then conveniently forgot (meaning, lied) about the agreement that was in place.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on August 23, 2013, 04:25:17 PM
Not sure how anyone can say that Lechnir was wrongfully terminated. He took over a program that was arguably top 3 in the nation and now it is a clear #3 in the WIAC, if that.

In terms purely of performance on the field, it's a lot like how Denny Crum was 'retired' at Louisville after winning two national championships and two other Final Fours, but then making it past the Sweet 16 just once in the final 15 years of his career and ending his career with 0 NCAA tournament wins in the last 4 seasons.

Maybe that's not the whole reason why he was non-renewed, but it seems like reason enough to have an adequate defense for the decision.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on August 23, 2013, 04:28:15 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on August 21, 2013, 11:44:47 AM
How many DIII baseball coaches over the past 12 months that have won National Championships, ran succesful programs and left under less that ideal conditions?

My count is at 3.   It is a whole new world out there today and the politics and political correctness now far out way any type of sucess and support you have from your players. This is not a good thing in my opinon and just a sad direction that many things are going.

True, but I don't think UWO is a great example of this. As mentioned, UWO has not been that successful a program of late. Chapman and ECSU are pretty clearly not related at all to on-field results.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on August 23, 2013, 05:47:55 PM
It's hard to apply D-I sensibilities to D-III coaching situations. D-III coaches are rarely fired exclusively over on-field results. There's almost always other factors.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on August 25, 2013, 07:29:42 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on August 23, 2013, 05:47:55 PM
It's hard to apply D-I sensibilities to D-III coaching situations. D-III coaches are rarely fired exclusively over on-field results. There's almost always other factors.

Doesn't matter with regard to defending the decision, does it? Unless Lechnir has done something just spectacular to benefit the school off the field, defending a wrongful termination case should be as simple as citing the program's last 15 years. They could add whatever else they wanted to make sure, but doesn't seem like it would be required.

From 5 championship game appearances (2 wins, 3 losses) over a decade between 1985-1994, to where the program is now, it's not hard to make the case that the program has regressed.

Which begs the question...why did the Titans fall? I'd be interested to hear some answers to that one.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on August 26, 2013, 09:43:47 AM
Quote from: Spence on August 25, 2013, 07:29:42 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on August 23, 2013, 05:47:55 PM
It's hard to apply D-I sensibilities to D-III coaching situations. D-III coaches are rarely fired exclusively over on-field results. There's almost always other factors.

Doesn't matter with regard to defending the decision, does it? Unless Lechnir has done something just spectacular to benefit the school off the field, defending a wrongful termination case should be as simple as citing the program's last 15 years. They could add whatever else they wanted to make sure, but doesn't seem like it would be required.

From 5 championship game appearances (2 wins, 3 losses) over a decade between 1985-1994, to where the program is now, it's not hard to make the case that the program has regressed.

Which begs the question...why did the Titans fall? I'd be interested to hear some answers to that one.
You mean like spear-heading the campaign to get an $800,000 Baseball Stadium completed without a single dollar coming from the university or public tax dollars?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on August 26, 2013, 12:31:37 PM
Admittedly I don't know all that much about what's going on up there but from what I do know I don't have the sense that the team's onfield performance has that much to do with their decision to nonrenew his contract.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on August 26, 2013, 05:33:40 PM
Oshkosh's fall coincided with the expansion of the NCAA postseason. Fringe starters that would normally have landed at UW-O with hopes of the NCAAs now enroll at other places like Ripon, Lakeland, St Norbert's, etc... Those kids were the depth Oshkosh needed. Players also landed more often at Point and Whitewater.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on August 26, 2013, 06:13:51 PM
Bob Morgan would be a great choice as a head coach. He recruited myself in the late 70's when he was at Wooster. I thought I knew how to play baseball when I got there. After going through his practices, I discovered I knew nothing about baseball. He teaches the game from every aspect and situation. Great fundamental coach.
The only downside I see is that he is "old school", it's my way or the highway. He and Bobby Knight are one and the same.
I was able to break into the starting lineup as a freshmen but, Coach Mo kept reminding me how lucky I was and the first slip  up would mean the bench. Great motivator!
Hiring Bob Morgan would be the best baseball move Osh Kosh could make.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on August 26, 2013, 11:09:32 PM
Quote from: old scot on August 26, 2013, 06:13:51 PM
Bob Morgan would be a great choice as a head coach. He recruited myself in the late 70's when he was at Wooster. I thought I knew how to play baseball when I got there. After going through his practices, I discovered I knew nothing about baseball. He teaches the game from every aspect and situation. Great fundamental coach.
The only downside I see is that he is "old school", it's my way or the highway.
He and Bobby Knight are one and the same.
I was able to break into the starting lineup as a freshmen but, Coach Mo kept reminding me how lucky I was and the first slip  up would mean the bench. Great motivator!
Hiring Bob Morgan would be the best baseball move Osh Kosh could make.
Hmm...  That sounds familiar!!! :o
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on August 27, 2013, 12:01:20 PM
In todays politically correct world...I don't think any "OLD SCHOOL" coaches can and will get hired.

As far as the now former UWO coach he was not wrongfully terminated. His contract was not renewed. UWO handled it poorly and their methods and treatment of the coach were also bad.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on August 27, 2013, 09:45:01 PM
Quote from: cubs on August 26, 2013, 09:43:47 AM
Quote from: Spence on August 25, 2013, 07:29:42 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on August 23, 2013, 05:47:55 PM
It's hard to apply D-I sensibilities to D-III coaching situations. D-III coaches are rarely fired exclusively over on-field results. There's almost always other factors.

Doesn't matter with regard to defending the decision, does it? Unless Lechnir has done something just spectacular to benefit the school off the field, defending a wrongful termination case should be as simple as citing the program's last 15 years. They could add whatever else they wanted to make sure, but doesn't seem like it would be required.

From 5 championship game appearances (2 wins, 3 losses) over a decade between 1985-1994, to where the program is now, it's not hard to make the case that the program has regressed.

Which begs the question...why did the Titans fall? I'd be interested to hear some answers to that one.
You mean like spear-heading the campaign to get an $800,000 Baseball Stadium completed without a single dollar coming from the university or public tax dollars?

No, not really. A baseball coach building a baseball stadium is not really spectacular. If he had pulled a Paterno and helped build the school library or something, that's more like what I'm thinking of.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on August 27, 2013, 09:47:20 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on August 26, 2013, 05:33:40 PM
Oshkosh's fall coincided with the expansion of the NCAA postseason. Fringe starters that would normally have landed at UW-O with hopes of the NCAAs now enroll at other places like Ripon, Lakeland, St Norbert's, etc... Those kids were the depth Oshkosh needed. Players also landed more often at Point and Whitewater.

OK, I can buy that kind of, but that can't be the only thing. Whitewater and Point are getting superior players (or at least superior teams)? What turned the tables?

oldscot, how old is Bob Morgan now? Does he still have enough to do what Oshkosh needs to get back in the mix in the WIAC? I know he did a lot to get Wooster's program rolling, but I would really wonder considering how much more effort coaches have to expend these days to recruit.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: old scot on August 27, 2013, 10:57:52 PM


oldscot, how old is Bob Morgan now? Does he still have enough to do what Oshkosh needs to get back in the mix in the WIAC? I know he did a lot to get Wooster's program rolling, but I would really wonder considering how much more effort coaches have to expend these days to recruit.
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Can't say for sure. I'm guessing he's pushing 65. His fire must still be burning that he wants to get back into coaching. I'm sure his energy level is high and recruiting should not be a problem.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on August 29, 2013, 11:18:28 PM
Quote from: old scot on August 27, 2013, 10:57:52 PM

Can't say for sure. I'm guessing he's pushing 65. His fire must still be burning that he wants to get back into coaching. I'm sure his energy level is high and recruiting should not be a problem.

Yeah I mean the guy's been on faculty at IU for the last 8 years teaching things like beginning tennis whilst not coaching, presumably has next to no recent knowledge of recruiting in Wisconsin, and is eligible for social security. I see nothing that could go wrong here.

Is there any example anywhere of a coach this old coming out of a retirement this long and making it work? All of this said, it's really not a very impressive list of candidates if the public list is comprehensive, so he may actually get it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on September 03, 2013, 06:46:31 PM
Rumor is former Whitewater standout Kevin Tomasiewicz has been selected to take over the UWO baseball program....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on September 03, 2013, 10:55:53 PM
Quote from: cubs on September 03, 2013, 06:46:31 PM
Rumor is former Whitewater standout Kevin Tomasiewicz has been selected to take over the UWO baseball program....
That probably lessens the chances of future Whitwater-Oshkosh bench clearing brawls.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on September 03, 2013, 11:23:35 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on September 03, 2013, 10:55:53 PM
Quote from: cubs on September 03, 2013, 06:46:31 PM
Rumor is former Whitewater standout Kevin Tomasiewicz has been selected to take over the UWO baseball program....
That probably lessens the chances of future Whitwater-Oshkosh bench clearing brawls.
Kind of ironic that Tomasiewicz was the pitcher that hit a former teammate against Oshkosh which ultimately sparked the infamous brawl...  Everything appears to have now gone full circle!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on September 06, 2013, 06:06:22 PM
no longer a rumor - Tomasiewicz is the new UWO head coach

http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2013/09/titans-hire-tomasiewicz
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on September 07, 2013, 06:26:02 PM
Seems like they're thinking long term, realizing that there's not going to be a quick fix to whatever has ailed UWO the last decade.

Just really surprised a current D-III head coach wasn't in the mix.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on September 07, 2013, 07:50:23 PM
I think this is a great move for Oshkosh... And a HUGE loss for North Park.

Big question: Where does Lechnir land?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on September 07, 2013, 10:25:05 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on September 07, 2013, 07:50:23 PM
I think this is a great move for Oshkosh... And a HUGE loss for North Park.

Big question: Where does Lechnir land?
Doubt anywhere....  Don't see him uprooting his family at this point.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on September 07, 2013, 10:26:49 PM
It will be interesting to see what UWO's roster looks like next year.  Guess there were a couple of transfers after Coach Lechnir's appeal was denied. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on September 08, 2013, 08:02:02 AM
Anyone leave Oshkosh for point?  I'm curious to hear about who point is bringing in.  I'm planning on going to their fall game this year so hopefully ill have an update.  Keeping my fingers crossed that they have a great catcher
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on September 08, 2013, 09:47:28 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on September 08, 2013, 08:02:02 AM
Anyone leave Oshkosh for point?  I'm curious to hear about who point is bringing in.  I'm planning on going to their fall game this year so hopefully ill have an update.  Keeping my fingers crossed that they have a great catcher
Not that I know of....  I know that Messenger has left Point and transferred to Oshkosh however.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on September 09, 2013, 09:39:49 AM
Good luck, Kevin. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on September 09, 2013, 11:16:54 PM
Holy crap why did messenger leave point?  That's a huge loss
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on September 10, 2013, 10:33:58 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on September 09, 2013, 11:16:54 PM
Holy crap why did messenger leave point?  That's a huge loss
I take it you missed my mention of this earlier this summer?

Not sure as to why he is transferring, and not going to speculate......
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on September 10, 2013, 09:47:22 PM
I didn't notice that you put Titan on there.  It's been one of the worst days of my life today point just lost potentially one of the best pitchers ever to take the field in the Wiac.  Was getting to the World Series as a freshman not good enough very odd situation. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on September 10, 2013, 10:45:35 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on September 10, 2013, 09:47:22 PM
I didn't notice that you put Titan on there.  It's been one of the worst days of my life today point just lost potentially one of the best pitchers ever to take the field in the Wiac.  Was getting to the World Series as a freshman not good enough very odd situation.
1.  If having a player transfer to another school causes you to have "one of the worst days of your life" you have one heck of a life!!!  There are people out there who lose loved ones at a young age, are unable to provide for their families, or are diagnosed with critical illnesses that have things a lot rougher than you.

2.  A guy with TWO career WIAC victories has a LONG way to go before he belongs in a conversation of "best pitchers to ever take the field in the WIAC."
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on September 11, 2013, 12:05:27 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on September 10, 2013, 09:47:22 PM
I didn't notice that you put Titan on there.  It's been one of the worst days of my life today point just lost potentially one of the best pitchers ever to take the field in the Wiac.  Was getting to the World Series as a freshman not good enough very odd situation.

Messenger is a loss but leave it to you to overreact like normal....Point has the last two WIAC pitchers of the year returning for this season along with some solid arms in the bullpen, I'm sure they will be fine.  I'd be more worried about the lineup considering the production they lost from last season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on September 11, 2013, 09:59:19 AM
Messenger....worst possible thing that could happen to the Pointers.  Dooms them to a bottom half finish.  It will take years for the Pointers to recover from the loss.  They may never see another conference championship in this century. 

Is this drastic enough? 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on September 11, 2013, 10:12:47 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on September 11, 2013, 09:59:19 AM
Messenger....worst possible thing that could happen to the Pointers.  Dooms them to a bottom half finish.  It will take years for the Pointers to recover from the loss.  They may never see another conference championship in this century. 

Is this drastic enough?
I'm sorry. Was it my week to make sure ShineTime was taking his meds? We really need to make a calendar.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on September 17, 2013, 04:16:23 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on September 07, 2013, 07:50:23 PM
I think this is a great move for Oshkosh... And a HUGE loss for North Park.

I think that NPU will be okay. Kevin Tomasiewicz was a very solid pitching coach and associate head coach. But Luke Johnson's lost assistant coaches to other schools before, and the program has still thrived. If the Vikings had to lose a pitching coach, this is probably the year to do it, as NPU will be putting a very experienced and senior-dominated staff on the bump this coming season. I'm very curious to see who Luke will hire to take T's place, though, especially since this is a somewhat unusual time of year to be hiring an assistant coach.

Best of luck to T as he takes over what sounds like a pretty tumultuous situation at UWO.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on October 01, 2013, 08:28:55 PM
Looks like Coach Lechnir found a nice landing spot following his non-renewal....

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2013/9/prweb11122732.htm

Wouldn't be surprised to see some college games played there next Spring with the way the Wisconsin weather is....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on October 02, 2013, 09:33:20 AM
I lived in Mauston as a kid and a trip to Woodside Ranch for horseback riding was always a highlight of the summer.  I've been following the development of the athletic complex and it sounds like it's going to be pretty sweet.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on October 07, 2013, 08:10:52 PM
Is lechnir uprooting his family to take this position?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on October 09, 2013, 03:47:13 PM
Photo gallery from the Copeland Park renovation, where UWL will begin to play home games:

http://www.uwlathletics.com/galleries/?gallery=120

Story: http://www.uwlathletics.com/news/2013/10/9/bb_1009133637.aspx?path=baseball
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on October 10, 2013, 10:20:05 AM
Sweet, it's going to be a really nice facility once they get it finished.  That can't hurt LaCrosse in their recruiting efforts.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 14, 2013, 10:02:50 PM
JP Feyereisen named 16th best prospect in the Northwoods league and Luke Watson, named 193.


http://www.northwoodsleague.com/pdf/2013-NWL-Top-200-Prospects.pdf

16. JP Feyereisen, rhp, Wisconsin Rapids Rafters (UW-Stevens Point)
Feyereisen returned to the Rafters for the second straight season. He had a stellar sophomore season, going 6-2
with a 1.96 ERA as the UW-Stevens Point #1 starter. A complete package, he's a lights out pitcher who worked great
for the Rafters out of relief. He went 3-1 with 11 saves in 22 appearances and 38 strikeouts in 31 innings pitched. He
throws 88-93 MPH with an above average slider that sits around 81-83.

193. Luke Watson, lhp, Green Bay Bullfrogs (UW-Stevens Point)

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on December 16, 2013, 05:32:48 PM
UW-Whitewater will entertain a regional of the 2014 NCAA Division III Baseball Championship at Prucha Field.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: voice on January 17, 2014, 12:32:45 PM
Congratulations to former UW-Stevens Point right-handed pitcher Jordan Zimmerman Who has signed a two-year deal with the Washington Nationals avoiding arbitration. Zimmerman will make $7.5 million in 2014 and $16.5 million in 2015.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on January 20, 2014, 04:28:12 PM
The D3baseball.com preseason Top 25 is out.  Stevens Point is ranked 4th having received 1 first place vote while the WARHAWKS are ranked 15th.  Oshkosh is also receiving votes.   Linfield is the top ranked team followed by Southern Maine and Kean.

For the complete poll....http://d3baseball.com/top25/2014/2014-week-0
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on January 20, 2014, 11:16:39 PM
Who did point bring in to replace Douglas Gerber and Schilter?  I think point will be pretty good but am rather surprised by the number 4 ranking based on what they lost offensively and defensively behind the plate with Schilter.  Also keep in mind they lost herbst and messenger transferred.  That being said their top 4 pitchers seidl Jp flood stroik and Frederick are all really solid.  Does anyone have insight as to what their lineup will be?  I'm guessing steldt 3b rose 2b Kranz 1b Gerber catcher Barnes Lf gregorich cf coady rf and Spetz Ss guckenberg will dh im guessing obviously point probably has some good freshman and recruits so I may be way off on this lineup.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on January 21, 2014, 11:10:43 AM
D3baseball.com preseason All Americans include the WARHAWKS Jared Fon, the Titans Bobby Kachel and the Pointers JP Feyereisen.

For the complete list....http://d3baseball.com/awards/all-americans/d3baseball-preseason-allamericans-2014
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on January 21, 2014, 08:52:31 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on January 20, 2014, 11:16:39 PM
Who did point bring in to replace Douglas Gerber and Schilter?  I think point will be pretty good but am rather surprised by the number 4 ranking based on what they lost offensively and defensively behind the plate with Schilter.  Also keep in mind they lost herbst and messenger transferred.  That being said their top 4 pitchers seidl Jp flood stroik and Frederick are all really solid.  Does anyone have insight as to what their lineup will be?  I'm guessing steldt 3b rose 2b Kranz 1b Gerber catcher Barnes Lf gregorich cf coady rf and Spetz Ss guckenberg will dh im guessing obviously point probably has some good freshman and recruits so I may be way off on this lineup.
You are forgetting Feyereisen who may be the best of the bunch!!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on January 21, 2014, 08:54:24 PM
Interesting to see the following link as the headline on the UWO Baseball page right now....

http://www.uwoshkoshtitans.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/releases/20131216rwolrf

Interest really that low or were there other circumstances? 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on January 21, 2014, 11:04:04 PM
I had just referred to him as Jp rather than trying to spell last name.  Anyways does anyone have any info on transfers to point or freshman with legit chance to make impact?  I had heard they had a transfer from matc that may start.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on January 21, 2014, 11:14:16 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on January 21, 2014, 11:04:04 PM
I had just referred to him as Jp rather than trying to spell last name.  Anyways does anyone have any info on transfers to point or freshman with legit chance to make impact?  I had heard they had a transfer from matc that may start.
My bad....  I read "4 starting pitchers" and saw you listed Seidl, Flood, Stroik and Frederick.  If it would have said five starting pitchers I probably would have noticed you had listed JP.

My apologies...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on January 21, 2014, 11:19:18 PM
Personally I hope flood stays as closer he was dominant at end of year for most part.  I'm really high on mccugh if his arm is feeling good he could be solid 4 or 5 starter.  Why did messenger leave point especially after World Series appearance?  I think it's a big loss for point seeing they have no lights out lefties now.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on January 22, 2014, 07:52:46 AM
More disturbing news in stevens point journal today I hope this doesn't affect his career with red soxs.  What is he doing in point anyways is my question?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on February 07, 2014, 09:50:14 AM
Cubs, a Whitewater HS athlete is headed your way.  Scott Gorsuch, a righthanded pitcher.  I don't really know that much about him other than he is a three sport athlete.  QB on the football team and a starter, leading scorer, on the hoops team.  I did see him pitch a couple of times last year and though not over powering I thought he could develop and be pretty decent.  Frankly I was hoping he might consider coming our way and playing football.  I think he could be a very good WIAC safety.   Anyway I was speaking with him last night and he's really excited about the opportunity.  He's a good kid and I hope it works out for him.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 07, 2014, 12:13:55 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on February 07, 2014, 09:50:14 AM
Cubs, a Whitewater HS athlete is headed your way.  Scott Gorsuch, a righthanded pitcher.  I don't really know that much about him other than he is a three sport athlete.  QB on the football team and a starter, leading scorer, on the hoops team.  I did see him pitch a couple of times last year and though not over powering I thought he could develop and be pretty decent.  Frankly I was hoping he might consider coming our way and playing football.  I think he could be a very good WIAC safety.   Anyway I was speaking with him last night and he's really excited about the opportunity.  He's a good kid and I hope it works out for him.

Will he be a baseball only, or will he play Football as well?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on February 07, 2014, 12:54:26 PM
I think it's baseball only. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 09, 2014, 10:34:02 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on February 07, 2014, 09:50:14 AM
Cubs, a Whitewater HS athlete is headed your way.  Scott Gorsuch, a righthanded pitcher.  I don't really know that much about him other than he is a three sport athlete.  QB on the football team and a starter, leading scorer, on the hoops team.  I did see him pitch a couple of times last year and though not over powering I thought he could develop and be pretty decent.  Frankly I was hoping he might consider coming our way and playing football.  I think he could be a very good WIAC safety.   Anyway I was speaking with him last night and he's really excited about the opportunity.  He's a good kid and I hope it works out for him.
With the changes in the baseball program, he will probably have a chance to step in play right away...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 18, 2014, 09:13:33 PM
Quote from: cubs on January 21, 2014, 08:54:24 PM
Interesting to see the following link as the headline on the UWO Baseball page right now....

http://www.uwoshkoshtitans.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/releases/20131216rwolrf

Interest really that low or were there other circumstances?
And now one of the Spring Clinics is canceled too?   ::)  I can remember the days of 200+ kids being at these clinics in the past.

http://www.uwoshkoshtitans.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/releases/20140214xs78bo
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 18, 2014, 09:26:13 PM
And confirmation that Polcyn is indeed no longer playing baseball at Oshkosh....

http://redhawks.ripon.edu/roster.aspx?path=baseball
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on February 19, 2014, 06:04:06 AM
Also in the Midwest preview states ben messenger transfers to Oshkosh.  What a huge blow for point even though they do get seidl back.  Is anyone else concerned besides myself on whose catching for point this year?  Looks like mccugh is playing this year from rosholt that could certainly add some pop to their lineup.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 19, 2014, 10:39:39 AM
Maybe it is just me, but I feel like the WIAC sees more transfers in and out than any other conference I read about. Not sure of the reasons, but it always feels like big-name players are on the move in this conference.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on February 19, 2014, 07:17:38 PM
I just can't understand how a kid can make World Series as a freshman and be in rotation and leave for a program with a new coach and most importantly hasn't been a national title contender in a long time.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 19, 2014, 08:36:35 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 19, 2014, 07:17:38 PM
I just can't understand how a kid can make World Series as a freshman and be in rotation and leave for a program with a new coach and most importantly hasn't been a national title contender in a long time.
Starts with "P" and ends with "Y"....

As far as the rest, the decision was made before the change in coaches happened.  With Coach Lechnir's track record of success with developing LHP's (Lechnir is also a lefty) it could have been a motivating factor as well.  Ultimately though, I believe it is was the above.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on February 19, 2014, 08:55:46 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 19, 2014, 07:17:38 PM
I just can't understand how a kid can make World Series as a freshman and be in rotation and leave for a program with a new coach and most importantly hasn't been a national title contender in a long time.

You of all people should have some understanding of why a player leaves one program for another.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 19, 2014, 08:57:34 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on February 19, 2014, 08:55:46 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 19, 2014, 07:17:38 PM
I just can't understand how a kid can make World Series as a freshman and be in rotation and leave for a program with a new coach and most importantly hasn't been a national title contender in a long time.
You of all people should have some understanding of why a player leaves one program for another.
It's only understandable when it benefits Point like it has MULTIPLE times over the past 5-10 years...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on February 19, 2014, 10:11:41 PM
Oshkosh losing Polcyn is huge too and makes ripon a heck of a lot better.  How good is ripon capable of being this year?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 19, 2014, 10:45:47 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 19, 2014, 10:11:41 PM
Oshkosh losing Polcyn is huge too and makes ripon a heck of a lot better.  How good is ripon capable of being this year?
I think SNC is probably the favorite in the MWC...  Ripon was pretty senior strong last year, and has to replace the entire middle of the field as SS, 2B, and CF were all seniors.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 20, 2014, 07:57:45 AM
I projected SNC to finish ahead of Ripon. Ripon has always had great bats in their program, but what has kept them as a second-tier program is their pitching. Now, if Polcyn was a pitcher coming from the WIAC, then it would have made a much bigger difference.

Still, it is tough to fault a guy (Polcyn) who is moving to play at home.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on February 20, 2014, 11:54:25 AM
The WARHAWKS have posted the opponents they will face in Florida on their schedule.  They include Oglethorpe, Benedictine (DH), Western New England, Elmhurst, St Thomas (DH), Union and St Olaf (DH).  Other nonconference opponents include Ripon (DH), Saint Scholastica (DH) and Concordia-Wi (DH). 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 20, 2014, 02:47:46 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on February 20, 2014, 11:54:25 AM
The WARHAWKS have posted the opponents they will face in Florida on their schedule.  They include Oglethorpe, Benedictine (DH), Western New England, Elmhurst, St Thomas (DH), Union and St Olaf (DH).  Other nonconference opponents include Ripon (DH), Saint Scholastica (DH) and Concordia-Wi (DH).

Pretty solid schedule for the Warhawks. Western New England, St. Thomas, St. Scholastica and Ripon could all be post-season contenders.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Buckeye21 on February 24, 2014, 10:14:32 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 19, 2014, 07:17:38 PM
I just can't understand how a kid can make World Series as a freshman and be in rotation and leave for a program with a new coach and most importantly hasn't been a national title contender in a long time.
It's because his girl friend wants him to be at school with her.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on February 24, 2014, 10:52:46 PM
Well I'm old but have been told about the home and away jersey philosophy is the kid engaged at 19 or what? 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on February 25, 2014, 09:25:12 AM
Maybe he wants to play shortstop.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on February 25, 2014, 09:06:45 PM
Pretty sure he could've played short for point if he wanted to that badly
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on February 27, 2014, 07:28:16 PM
Points roster is finally up looks pretty solid I've heard Harry steldt is catching anyone know if he's solid defensively?  Is mccugh going to be impact in lineup I'm guessing it will be he and guckenberg battling for dh.  Spetz has moved to short for sure and solid transfer from matc is taking over 3rd.  Outfield remains same as last year hopefully gregorich is healthy before Florida.  Prebelski Watson and flood should really help the starters only have to go 6.  My concerns are obviously replacing the pop of Schilter and Gerber in lineup and also defensively up the middle don't know if Spetz has the range to play short anyone ever see him play short or know? 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on February 28, 2014, 03:23:54 PM
UWL gets the season going today in a little four-team round robin (CSS, St. Thomas and Buena Vista) down in Tulsa, OK.

Live stats: http://www.sidearmstats.com/uwlax/baseball/

Live video: http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/css.portal#
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 13, 2014, 10:20:06 PM
Point vs Benedictine could be interesting tomorrow Benedictine returns all their key guys from last year including both Hendricks.  Point will need to get some stellar pitching and hopefully solid play from whoever is catching.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 14, 2014, 03:53:55 PM
And point proceeds to slaughter Benedictine.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 15, 2014, 10:56:21 AM
I heard that the catching was especially stellar.  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 15, 2014, 02:19:22 PM
Lets hope it is stellar because point boasts one of best pitching staffs in d3 no doubt.  Guessing Jp takes the hill today against Wheaton although they have southern Maine coming up to so perhaps Frederick will go tonight.  Is there still time for messenger to realize his mistake and throw a pointer jersey on?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 15, 2014, 03:17:45 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 15, 2014, 02:19:22 PM
Lets hope it is stellar because point boasts one of best pitching staffs in d3 no doubt.  Guessing Jp takes the hill today against Wheaton although they have southern Maine coming up to so perhaps Frederick will go tonight.  Is there still time for messenger to realize his mistake and throw a pointer jersey on?
Point has one kid transfer out, and the belly-aching goes on and on and on and on and on .....

It's D3 baseball...  Maybe he chose to transfer because of family, education, or some other reason.  Maybe he was afraid of following in Koback's steps? 

Anyway, it's not life and death!!!  Give it a rest already!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 15, 2014, 08:02:56 PM
Point beats Wheaton 8 to 2.  Jp went 7 shutout innings and point had one big inning.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 15, 2014, 11:42:16 PM
Oshkosh finally posts roster....

Noticeably missing???  2013 leading hitter Michael Swift.

I'd be SHOCKED if Kachel sees anything close to hit during WIAC play...  Transfer Trent Whitcomb MAY help, but looking at his 2012 and 2013 numbers at Eastern Illinois, it looks like he struck out nearly every other AB.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 16, 2014, 01:45:33 AM
Did swift join Polcyn at ripon?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 16, 2014, 10:09:03 PM
Point split with Anderson Indiana today.  Frederick hurled a shutout in game 1 with wendorf taking loss in game 2.  Looks like Kyle mccugh is going to be a factor for point.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 17, 2014, 09:39:46 AM
The WARHAWKS have posted their roster.  Quite a few freshmen.

http://www.uwwsports.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 18, 2014, 10:39:16 PM
Huge w for point against Rowan today 12 to 10.  Too bad second game was postponed due to rain.  Seidl got roughed up but it's nice to see cody hanke playing well and going yard.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 19, 2014, 04:53:55 PM
The WARHAWKS opened the season with a 5-1 win over Oglethorp University.  Scott Plaza (1-0) got the win pitching 7 innings surrendering 6 hits, 1 earned run and striking out 11 without a walk.  Brock Liston and Austin Jones (1 K) each pitched a scoreless inning in relief.  Trey Cannon led the 11 hit WARHAWKS offense going 3x5 with an RBI.  Michael Gonzalez (2x5), Nic Kuhlmann (2x4), Casey Power (2x4, double) and Mike Mierow each had an RBI.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 19, 2014, 06:42:32 PM
Number 5 point has their way with number 3 southern Maine today winning 12 2 in 8.  Jp went 7 and point had 17 hits.  Anyone else surprised by 7 and 1 start against such quality competition?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 19, 2014, 09:02:32 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 19, 2014, 06:42:32 PM
Number 5 point has their way with number 3 southern Maine today winning 12 2 in 8.  Jp went 7 and point had 17 hits. Anyone else surprised by 7 and 1 start against such quality competition?
Nope...

More surprised to see JP get the start and go seven innings on just three days rest this early in the season....  :o  Teams aren't going to win a national Championship in March, but they could sure lose one!!!! 

I'm sure the posters around here who have been quick to "bash" other WIAC coaches who do this in May, have no problem with it being done in March though!!!  ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 19, 2014, 09:08:01 PM
I was more shocked about seidl staying in so long especially with how things were going.  I was expecting a lot of flood prebelski and mccugh in relief on the trip.  I like that Luke Watson is a starter now but man was he a stud in the bullpen.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 19, 2014, 09:09:22 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 19, 2014, 10:11:41 PM
Oshkosh losing Polcyn is huge too and makes ripon a heck of a lot better.  How good is ripon capable of being this year?
Ripon off to a 1-5 start down in Florida....  One bright spot has been Polcyn, who is hitting .360 this far with a pair of HR's while playing third base.

http://redhawks.ripon.edu/schedule.aspx?path=baseball
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 19, 2014, 10:16:02 PM
What's sad is he was supposed to be a pointer then tore it up at state and got offer from Milwaukee.  He proceeds to leave and go to Oshkosh and now ripon.  Pretty sure he wanted to be at ripon last year badly but opted not to would've helped them a ton last year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 19, 2014, 10:38:26 PM
Oshkosh could surprise this year I think they have best pitching staff they've had in many years.  As many know I'm high on messenger and see him as a solid number 1 on most staffs.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 20, 2014, 12:29:57 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 19, 2014, 10:38:26 PM
Oshkosh could surprise this year I think they have best pitching staff they've had in many years.  As many know I'm high on messenger and see him as a solid number 1 on most staffs.
Ummm...  I don't see it.  Top of 2011 rotation of Westphal, Rubens and Schreiber would run circles around 2014 #1-3 of Messenger, Pavlovich, and Sindles. 

Anyway as far as "surprise team," where are they going to score runs from?  They lost five of their Top 6 hitters from last season, and as I mentioned earlier, WIAC teams won't give Kachel much to hit until someone proves they can "protect" him. 

I predict no WIAC Tournament for UWO this season!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 20, 2014, 12:35:58 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 19, 2014, 10:16:02 PM
What's sad is he was supposed to be a pointer then tore it up at state and got offer from Milwaukee.  He proceeds to leave and go to Oshkosh and now ripon.  Pretty sure he wanted to be at ripon last year badly but opted not to would've helped them a ton last year.

The only way he could have helped them last year was if he could pitch.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 20, 2014, 04:15:14 PM
The WARHAWKS improved to 3-0 on the season sweeping a double hitter against Benedictine 11-5 and 17-3.  Curtis Morgan got the win in game one going 5 innings surrendering 8 hits 4 earned runs with a walk and 2 strikeouts.  Colin Grove threw a perfect inning in relief and Mike Nompleggi pitched the last inning surrendering an earned run on 1 hit and 3 walks.  Connor Hunt won game two going 5 innings giving up 5 hits, no runs with a walk and 2 strikeouts.  Matt Langlie pitched an inning in relief giving up 4 hits, 3 earned runs with a walk and Donnie Manke finished the final inning giving up a single hit.  Dylan Friend went 3x3 in the first game driving in 4 runs with a double and home run.  Mikole Pierce also homered driving in 3 runs with 3x3 at the plate.  Kyle Haen homered and was 4x4 batting.  Nick Kuhlmann also had an RBI.  Jared Fon (2x2) and Mike Mierow (2x4) had multiple hits as the WARHAWKS had 16 hits in the game.  Connor Hunt started game two throwing 5 shutout innings while surrendering 5 hits with a walk and 2 strikeouts.  Matt Langlie relieved him giving up 3 earned runs on 4 hits with a walk in one inning.  Donnie Manke finished the game giving up a single hit.  Casey Power went 4x4 at the plate and drove in 5 runs.  Michael Gonzalez drove in a pair with 3 hits in 4 at bats.  Jared Fon also had 3 hits (double) and drove in a pair.  Mikole Pierce drove in a pair and Trent Diekvoss had 3 RBI on a double.  Kyle Haen (2x4), Dylan Friend (2x4) and Nick Kuhlmann (2x2) had multiple hits.  The WARHAWKS had 19 hits in game two. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 21, 2014, 09:29:12 AM
Point now 8 and 1 with 5 to 1 win over Denison.  Zach wendorf went 7 strong for the win.  Point wraps up spring break with dh vs Washington and Jefferson.  Guessing Frederick and Watson pitch today.  Mccugh had 2 hrs in the win also.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 21, 2014, 07:29:08 PM
Point takes dh today by scores of 6 to 1 and 8 to 0.  Finished up trip 10 and 1.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 23, 2014, 12:18:19 PM
The WARHAWKS improved to 4-0 with a 6-4 win over Western New England.  Trailing 3-1 the WARHAWKS took a 4-3 lead with one run in the fifth and a pair of runs in the sixth.  WNE quickly tied the game 4-4 with a run in the bottom of the inning.  Jared Fon's RBI double drove in the go ahead run in the ninth and Kyle Haen added an insurance run when he scored on a wild pitch.  Justin Mortenson started the game giving up 4 runs (2 earned) on 4 hits and a pair of walks with a single strikeout in 5.2 innings.  Brock Liston was credited with the win pitching 2.1 innings surrendering a single hit and striking out a pair.  Austin Jones picked up a save striking out 1 and walking 1 in the ninth.  Fon, Dylan Friend and Trey Cannon each drove in a run.  Haen and Casey Power each collected a pair of hits. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 23, 2014, 06:13:51 PM
WARHAWKS: 14
Elmhurst: 3

Elmhurst got on the board first with a run in the top of the first but the WARHAWKS answered with 7 runs in the bottom of the inning.  Dylan Friend's home run drove in a pair as did Kyle Haen's single.  Adam Gregory drove in a run with a double and singles by Casey Power and Mike Mierow drove in runs.  The WARHAWKS added a pair of runs in the fourth, three in the sixth and two more in the seventh.  Elmhurst acored a pair in the top of the seventh.  Brock Liston (2-0) got the win giving up 4 hits, an earned run with 5 strikeouts and 2 walks in six innings.  Colin Grove pitched the final inning in relief and was tagged for 2 runs (1 earned) on 2 hits, a walk and one strikeout.  Haen finished 3x4 (double, home run) and with 5 RBI.  Friend also went 3x4 (home run, 2 doubles) and drove in 3 runs.  Gregory (double, 2 RBI), Power (RBI), Mikole Pierce and Michael Gonzalez (double) all had a pair of hits.  Jared Fon and Mierow added RBIs.

The WARHAWKS (5-0) will play a double hitter against St Thomas tomorrow.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 24, 2014, 08:42:55 PM
The WARHAWKS split with St Thomas today losing game one 8-5 and winning game two 7-2.  St Thomas jumped out to a 8-0 lead in the first game before the WARHAWKS scored 5 in the bottom of the last inning in the seven inning game.  Scott Plaza (1-1) took the loss pitching all seven innings surrendering the 8 runs (5 earned) on 12 hits and 3 WARHAWKS errors.  Plaza struck out 5 and walked 1.  Mikole Pierce went 3x4 and drove in a run.  Jared Fon, Mike Mierow and Trey Cannon (double) each had a pair of hits.  Michael Gonzalez (double) drove in a pair of runs while Nick Kuhlmann and Kyle Haen each had an RBI. 

It was the WARHAWKS who jumped out to a 4-0 lead at the end of six innings in game two.  St Thomas answered with a pair in the bottom of the innings but the WARHAWKS scored 3 more runs in the seventh.  Connor Hurst (2-0) was credited with the win.  Hurst pitched 6.1 innings allowing 6 hits while striking out 8 and walking 2.  One of the two St Thomas runs was earned.  Donnie Manke gave up 1 hit before recording the final two outs.  Pierce drove in a pair of runs with a home run in 3 at bats.  Fon and Power each had a pair of hits.  Fon, Haen and Daytona Bryden each had an RBI.

The split brings the WARHAWKS record to 6-1 with a single game against Union College and a double hitter with St Olaf remaining on the Florida portion of the season. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 24, 2014, 09:56:17 PM
Did Steve maher pitch at all in this dh?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: mr_b on March 24, 2014, 10:11:38 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 24, 2014, 09:56:17 PM
Did Steve maher pitch at all in this dh?
According to the box scores, Maher did not pitch at all. Danczyk worked 6 innings in the loss and Wendinger went 6.2 in the win.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: mr_b on March 24, 2014, 10:12:55 PM
Congratulations to Oshkosh Coach Kevin Tomasiewicz on the Titans' sweep of a twin bill over St. Olaf.  That brings the Titans' record to 3-1.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 25, 2014, 07:35:02 PM
Oshkosh is fittin to beat st Thomas with maher pitching.  Rather impressive win and tells me titans are legit Wiac contender.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 25, 2014, 09:11:30 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 25, 2014, 07:35:02 PM
Oshkosh is fittin to beat st Thomas with maher pitching.  Rather impressive win and tells me titans are legit Wiac contender.
I will be the first to admit that the win over St. Thomas is quality victory.  Didn't see that coming, and all the more impressive that they beat Maher.  Looks like Maher's defense let him down, as although he gave up eight runs in six innings, only three of them were earned.

Trent Whitcomb looks to be hitting well in the lead-off spot, which has really set the table for guys like Kachel, Kleman, and Dostalek.  If that continues, Oshkosh may in fact be more successful than I thought. 

I will be curious to see how things go once they open WIAC play.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 25, 2014, 10:31:59 PM
Whitewaters starter against union gives up 11 earned in 2.2 innings and picks up the w that's awesome. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 25, 2014, 11:47:43 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 25, 2014, 09:11:30 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 25, 2014, 07:35:02 PM
Oshkosh is fittin to beat st Thomas with maher pitching.  Rather impressive win and tells me titans are legit Wiac contender.
I will be the first to admit that the win over St. Thomas is quality victory.  Didn't see that coming, and all the more impressive that they beat Maher.  Looks like Maher's defense let him down, as although he gave up eight runs in six innings, only three of them were earned.

Trent Whitcomb looks to be hitting well in the lead-off spot, which has really set the table for guys like Kachel, Kleman, and Dostalek.  If that continues, Oshkosh may in fact be more successful than I thought. 

I will be curious to see how things go once they open WIAC play.

10 hits allowed in 6IP is still either cause for concern or really nice hitting. Or considering he struck out 10, really unlucky lol. Regardless, unless the defense is just fumbling it all over in one inning, the pitcher can make up for some fielding mistakes by getting outs.

I can't decide whether it's time to be concerned about St. Thomas yet or not. They haven't swept any of the better teams they've played, but until today they hadn't not gotten a win against one either. And giving up a dozen is pretty uncharacteristic for them with their ace going, though he wasn't as good last year as his FR year by the numbers. They win their league practically by default, but are they regional title caliber? Unclear right now.

Regardless, obviously a good win for Oshkosh.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 26, 2014, 10:18:46 AM
I don't know that giving up 11 earned runs in 2.2 innings is "awesome" but he didn't pitch enough innings to be credited with the win. 

WARHAWKS: 26
Union: 11

Despite giving up 11 earned runs in the first three innings the WARHAWKS never trailed in the game.  They led 2-1 after the first, 10-5 after the second and 15-11 after three innings.  Union was held runless after that as the WARHAWKS added 2 in the fourth, 4 in the fifth, 2 in the sixth and 3 in the seventh.  Union committed 10 errors in the game but 24 of the 26 runs scored by the WARHAWKS were earned.  Mike Nompleggi started and was touched for all 11 runs on 13 hits in 2.2 innings.  Nompleggi struck out a pair and walked 1.  Collin Grove (1-0) got the win with 4.1 scoreless innings of work in which he surrendered 3 hits and struck out 8.  Andrew Lowe and Matt Langlie each pitched an inning with each giving up a single hit.  Lowe struck out 2 and walked 2.  Langlie recorded a strikeout.

Michael Gonzalez (5x5, 4 doubles) drove in 4 runs.  Jared Fon (3x5, double, triple) drove in 5 runs.  Kyle Haen (3x7, triple) and Trey Cannon drove in 3 runs each.  Mikole Pierce (4x5, 2 triples) drove in a pair of runs as did Dylan Friend.  Driving in single runs were Casey Power, Nick Kuhlmann and Dylan Bersch.   As a team the WARHAWKS stole 7 bases. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 26, 2014, 06:50:14 PM
Seriously how good is Ben messenger and what round you guys think he'll get drafted next year?  I see him as possible tom glavine.  I bet whitewater doesn't get shutout again all year I have no idea how a team that stacked puts up a 0.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 27, 2014, 10:13:38 AM
The WARHAWKS split a double hitter with St Olaf winning the first game 7-1 before being shutout 2-0 in game two.  Curtis Morgan (2-0) pitched a complete game in the opener giving up a single run (earned) on 3 hits with 5 strikeouts and a pair of walks.  Mikole Pierce led the WARHAWKS offense going 3x4 (double, triple).  Jared Fon (2x3, double), Trey Cannon (2x3, triple) and Nick Kuhlmann (2x3) had multiple hits.  Dylan Friend (1), Michael Gonzalez (1), Cannon (1), Mike Mierow (2) and Kuhlmann (1) drove in runs. 

Game two was a pitchers duel Austin Jones (0-1) pitched well giving up just 4 hits, two earned runs with a pair of strikeouts and walks in a complete game but didn't get any run support.  The WARHAWKS only had 4 hits in the game and left 8 runners on base.

The WARHAWKS conclude the Florida portion of the schedule with an 8-2 record.  The double hitter vs Ripon originally scheduled to be played in Ripon on Saturday will likely be moved to WHITEWATER due to field conditions.     
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 29, 2014, 09:52:01 AM
Anyone know if Oshkoshs field is ready for Tuesday?  Too bad games aren't scheduled Monday weather looks a lot better.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on March 29, 2014, 09:54:56 PM
Speaking of taking advantage of the weather, Whitewater's double-header scheduled for today in Ripon was rescheduled for tomorrow in Whitewater. The action starts at 1 PM and the weather is expected to be sunny and in the 50's.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 30, 2014, 12:19:40 AM
Ripon will still be the home team.  At least in the first game.  I'm not sure how they handle out of conference double hitters.  Whether Ripon would be the home team for both or if it would rotate.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 30, 2014, 12:48:16 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 29, 2014, 09:52:01 AM
Anyone know if Oshkoshs field is ready for Tuesday?  Too bad games aren't scheduled Monday weather looks a lot better.
The Oshkosh vs Stevens Point DH scheduled for Tuesday has been moved to the Woodside Sports Complex in Mauston.

http://www.uwoshkoshtitans.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/schedule

How ironic is it that UWO will be playing their first WIAC game this season where their former coach is now working?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 30, 2014, 10:16:33 AM
I'm guessing both games will be 1 to 0 with the pitching both teams have.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 31, 2014, 10:38:14 AM
WHITEWATER: 12, 13
Ripon: 7, 3

Game one was a back and forth affair.  Each team scored a pair of runs in the first inning before the WARHAWKS took a 3-2 lead in the second.  Ripon tied the game with a run in the third and took a 4-3 lead when they scored another run in the fourth.  The WARHAWKS regained the lead 6-3 with 3 runs in the sixth but once again the Red Hawks responded with three of their own taking a 7-6 lead after eight complete.  A six run ninth highlighted by Nick Kuhlmann's 2 run home run and Mikole Pierce's 2 run double gave the WARHAWKS the win.  Justin Mortensen started but only went 2.1 innings giving up 3 earned runs on 5 hits with a walk and a pair of strikeouts.  Colin Grove went 5.1 innings in relief allowing 8 hits, 4 earned runs while walking a pair and striking out 4.  Matt Langlie (1-0) was credited with the win  pitched .1 innings.  Scott Plaza struck out a batter while retiring the Red Hawks in order to close out the game.  Jared Fon (3x5, double, triple) drove in 3 runs as did Mikole Pierce (2x5,double).  Michael Gonzalez (3x6, double) and Nick Kuhlmann (2x4, home run) each drove in a pair of runs.  Trey Cannon (2x6, triple) and Kyle Haen (2x3) each had a pair of hits while Casey Power and Adam Gregory (double) each drove in single runs. 

Ripon scored a run in the second inning to take an early lead in game two but the WARHAWKS responded with 2 in the third, 3 in the fourth, 3 in the fifth to go up 8-1.  Ripon put two more runs on the board in the bottom of the fifth cutting the deficit to 8-3.  The WARHAWKS added 2 runs in the sixth and 3 more in the ninth to close out the scoring.  Brock Liston (3-0) allowed 3 earned runs on 5 hits with 3 walks and 7 strikeouts in six innings to pick up the win.  Donnie Manke struck out two and gave up 1 hit in two innings of relief and Austin Jones struck out a pair, walked one and gave up one hit in his inning of relief.  Jared Fon 4x6 drove in 3 runs with a pair of home runs and an RBI double.  Michael Gonzalez 3x5 (double) drove in a run.  Trey Cannon's 2x5 (double 2) also drove in a run.  Dylan Bersch, Casey Power and Adam Gregory each had single RBI. 

Tuesday's double hitter with Platteville, originally scheduled in Platteville, has been moved to WHITEWATER due to field conditions. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 01, 2014, 11:18:19 AM
In addition to Oshkosh and Point playing Mauston Stout and LaCrosse will also play their games at Woodside Sports Complex. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 01, 2014, 09:39:13 PM
Point takes 2 vs Oshkosh in mauston.  Mccugh is a stud why couldn't he be eligible last year?  Jp was at his best and needed to be as messenger was on his game too.  Platteville gets slaughtered game one giving up 21 runs and takes game 2 unreal.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 01, 2014, 11:00:37 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 01, 2014, 09:39:13 PM
Point takes 2 vs Oshkosh in mauston.  Mccugh is a stud why couldn't he be eligible last year?  Jp was at his best and needed to be as messenger was on his game too.  Platteville gets slaughtered game one giving up 21 runs and takes game 2 unreal.
Like I said earlier, I don't envision Oshkosh putting up runs consistently this season.  Wouldn't be surprised to see more DH's like this where they will need a dominant performance on the mound to come away with a victory.

Wonder if Coach Lechnir took in the game today?   ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 01, 2014, 11:03:21 PM
He was there I'm guessing Oshkosh were wishing swift and Polcyn were still there that lineup would be a lot better. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 02, 2014, 09:46:23 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 01, 2014, 11:00:37 PM
Wonder if Coach Lechnir took in the game today?   ;D
It would be hilariously awkward if was doing something like, running out to rake the mound between innings or something like that.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 02, 2014, 10:42:30 AM
WARHAWKS: 21, 3
Platteville: 4, 4

Each team scored a run in the first inning before the WARHAWKS took a 5-1 lead with 3 in the second and 1 in the third.  Zac Demmon's three run home run cut the Pioneer deficit to a single run 5-4 in the bottom of the third but the WARHAWKS responded with a pair of runs in the fourth and sixth, 4 in the seventh and ended the game by the ten run rule with an 8 run eighth.  Scott Plaza (2-1) went the distance surrendering 4 runs (earned) on 10 hits with 7 strikeouts and a walk.  Mikole Pierce (4x6, double, RBI), Jared Fon (3x6, 2 home runs, 4 RBI), Dylan Friend (3x4, RBI), Michael Gonzalez (3x5, double, 3 RBI), Casey Power (2x4, double, home run, 4 RBI), Trey Cannon (2x4, 2 doubles) and Nick Kuhlmann (2x5) all had multiple hits.  Kyle Haen (1x3, home run, 4 RBI) and Adam Gregory (1x4, 3 RBI) also drove in runs.

Game two was one of sloppy fielding and missed opportunities for the WARHAWKS.  Zac Demmon's second three run home run of the day gave the Pioneers a 3-0 lead after three innings.  All three runs were unearned due a throwing error by the WARHAWKS.  The WARHAWKS got on the board with a run in the fourth on Pierce's sacrafice fly but Platteville answered that with another unearned run in the sixth.  In the fourth, fifth and sixth innings the WARHAWKS had a total of 8 baserunners but were only able to score 1 of them.   The WARHAWKS added a pair of runs in the eighth but left the bases loaded.  It was frustrating because it seemed like everything the WARHAWKS hit hard was right at somebody and everything hit deep was run down and caught.  Connor Hurst (2-1), despite surrendering Demmon's home run, didn't pitch that badly giving up 6 hits in 5.2 innings with 4 strikeouts and 3 walks.  Curtis Morgan relieved him pitching 2.1 hitless and scoreless innings with pair of strikeouts and a walk.  Friend (2x4, double) and Kuhlmann (2x4, RBI) were the only two WARHAWKS to have multiple hits.  Pierce and Cannon each had an RBI. 

The WARHAWKS will host St Scholastica for a twin bill on Sunday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 02, 2014, 06:56:48 PM
I am doubting point will play in point Saturday I drove by field today and there's about ten feet of snow piled down the fence lines.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 06, 2014, 12:04:08 AM
WARHAWKS: 11
St. Scholastica: 8

The WARHAWKS jumped on top with three runs in the first inning on Dylan Friend's RBI double and a 2 RBI single by Casey Power.  They added a run in the second when Jared Fon singled driving in Kyle Haen.  Fon's fourth inning grand slam coupled with  Mikole Pierce's RBI double and a run scored on a balk put the WARHAWKS up 10-0.  Another run in the fifth inning made it 11-0.  St Scholastica put five hits together in the seventh and then added four unearned runs in the ninth to close the gap.  Brock Liston (4-0) scattered 5 hits and stuck out 8 in 6 scoreless innings to pick up the win.  Donny Manke gave up 5 hits and 4 earned runs with a pair of strikeouts in an inning of relief.  Andrew Lowe pitched a scoreless inning striking out 1 and giving up 1 hit.  Austin Jones finished the game giving up 1 hit and striking out two but two WARHAWKS errors and a passed ball allowed 4 unearned runs to score. 

Fon finished 3x4 (home run, double) with 5 RBI and 2 runs scored.  Friend went 2x4 (double) with an RBI.  Casey Power (2x4, double, 2 RBI) and Haen (2x4, 3 runs scored) also had multiple hits.  Pierce (double) drove in a pair of runs.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 06, 2014, 03:41:47 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 01, 2014, 11:00:37 PM
Like I said earlier, I don't envision Oshkosh putting up runs consistently this season.  Wouldn't be surprised to see more DH's like this where they will need a dominant performance on the mound to come away with a victory.
Oshkosh gets that in their WIAC opener, as Lacy and Messenger combine on a shutout in a 2-0 victory over Superior.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 06, 2014, 06:31:04 PM
St. Scholastica: 3
WARHAWKS: 18

An RBI single by Mikole Pierce coupled with an RBI double by Michael Gonzalez and a two run home run from Casey Power in their first at bat gave the WARHAWKS as many runs as they would need in a lopsided win over the Saints.  The WARHAWKS added a run in the second inning, two in the third, three in the fourth, four in the fifth, a single run in the sixth and three more in the eighth on eighteen hits.  The Saints scored all of their runs in the eighth.  Curtis Morgan (3-0) scattered 6 hits while walking 2, striking out 4 and allowing 3 runs (all earned) in 7.2 innings.  Colin Grove finished the eighth inning giving up a hit and Austin Jones retired the Saints in order in the ninth.  Jared Fon got 4 hits (double) and drove in a pair of runs in 5 at bats.  Mike Mierow knocked out 2 hits in 4 at bats (triple) and had 4 RBI.   Gonzalez went 3x6 (2 doubles) and drove in 3 runs.   Kyle Haen 2x5 (double, triple) had an RBI.  Power 2x6 (home run) drove in 3 runs.  Pierce finished 2x4 with 3 RBI.  Trey Cannon 2x4, 1 RBI, Dylan Friend 1x3, 1 RBI and Nick Kuhlmann (sac fly) all drove in runs.   

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 07, 2014, 09:32:47 PM
Point takes 3 out of 4 from lacrosse with point losing with Jp on the hill.  Lacrosse can really hit and have two quality starters and very easily could've taken 2 or 3.  Looks like Oshkosh took 3 of 4 from superior.  I heard today lechnir is making more money in mauston than he was his last year at uw Oshkosh lol but hey public workers are so overpaid.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 09, 2014, 02:00:19 PM
No Bobby Kachel in the line-up today for Oshkosh in Game 1 of their DH against Whitewater....

He played all 16 innings on Monday against Superior, so it will be interesting to find out the details.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on April 09, 2014, 08:35:14 PM
Wow the Titans just got hammered today, I will leave reporting to BadgerWarhawk.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 10, 2014, 11:25:30 AM
Oshkosh: 6
WARHAWKS: 12

The WARHAWKS had a comfortable 9-2 lead after four innings in game one but the Titans put a pair of runs on the board in the sixth and another pair in the seventh to close the gap to 9-6.  But that's where it ended and the WARHAWKS added three more in the eighth to close out the game.  Scott Plaza (3-1) went the distance allowing 11 hits, striking out 5 without a walk.  All six Titan runs were earned.  Mikole Pierce led the 18 hit WARHAWKS offense going 4x5 (double, triple) and driving in one.  Mike Mierow 3x4 (double) and Kyle Haen 3x4 (triple) each drove in 3 runs.  Michael Gonzalez 2x5 (double) Casey Power 2x5 (double) and Nick Kuhlmann 2x5 (double) each drove in one run as did Jared Fon.  The Titan defense was not good.  They were credited with 3 errors but misplayed several balls which allowed hits on what should have been outs.


Oshkosh: 2
WARHAWKS: 15  7 innings

Dylan Friend's solo home run in the third inning opened the scoring in game two.  Aside from that Messenger had looked sharp allowing only that hit and striking out five.  But the wheels fell off in the fourth inning when Gonzalez led off with a solo shot and a throwing error put Power on base.  It looked like the Titans would get out of the inning without more damage when the next two batters made outs.  But Messenger struggled with control walking Kuhlmann and hitting Haen to load the bases.  Another hit batter forced in a run, Friend's single drove in a pair and Pierce followed with a three run frozen rope shot which cleared the left center field fence and drove in 3 more runs.  After another base on balls Messenger was finished for the day.  Six hits and another Titan error allowed 7 more WARHAWKS to score in the fifth.  The Titans put single runs on the board in the sixth and seventh innings.  Connor Hurst (3-1) scattered 5 hits allowing a single earned run with 3 stikeouts and no walks in 6 innings for the win.  Justin Mortenson allowed a single hit and an earned run with a walk but struck out the side in an inning of relief.  Pierce finished 2x3 (home run) with 5 RBI while Friend drove in 3 runs with a double and home run in 3 at bats.  Gonzalez 2x3 (home run) had a pair of RBI.  Mierow 3x4, Power 2x4 (double), Haen (double) and Fon all had RBIs.  The Titan defense was shaky in this one as well as they had 4 errors and misplayed balls which allowed extra bases. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 12, 2014, 01:59:12 PM
I'm a little puzzled as to why point and superior started a game this morning given the conditions and forecast.  Nothing like getting your ace all warmed up for nothing.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 12, 2014, 03:26:01 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 12, 2014, 01:59:12 PM
I'm a little puzzled as to why point and superior started a game this morning given the conditions and forecast.  Nothing like getting your ace all warmed up for nothing.
Say what you want, but I look at Seidl as being Point's ace and not JP....  I thought that going into the season, and after seeing La Crosse hang seven on JP in the first two innings last weekend, my opinion hasn't changed.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 12, 2014, 08:47:05 PM
I guess I can't disagree with you on that to be honest Luke Watson May be best on staff.  Whitewater is just embarrassing la crosse today I don't know that anyone in the Wiac can keep up with that offense.  Points pitching and d are really going to have to be on to even get a split imo
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 12, 2014, 09:40:34 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 12, 2014, 08:47:05 PM
I guess I can't disagree with you on that to be honest Luke Watson May be best on staff.  Whitewater is just embarrassing la crosse today I don't know that anyone in the Wiac can keep up with that offense.  Points pitching and d are really going to have to be on to even get a split imo
Since when is losing 5-1 getting embarrassed?   ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 12, 2014, 09:47:57 PM
Guess I just don't understand how lacrosse can score at will 3 out of 4 games at point but can't put more than 1 on the board at home vs whitewater.  I was highly impressed with lacrosses lineup other than vs cam.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 12, 2014, 10:43:51 PM
There is a reason Liston is 5-0 on the season with a 1.23 ERA....

Anyway, it was a 1-0 game into the 8th inning until Whitewater put up a four spot.  If that is getting embarrassed, then I don't know what to tell you.

Guess I should be used to your outlandish statements by now, but it just gets old after awhile.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 12, 2014, 11:15:50 PM
WARHAWKS: 5
LaCrosse: 1

For eight innnings the first game was pitcher's duel between the WARHAWKS Brock Liston and and the Eagles Joe Miller.  The WARHAWKS clung to a 1-0 lead after Kyle Haen and Jared Fon singled and Mikole Pierce's groundout brought Haen home in the third.  The WARHAWKS broke the game open in the eighth when Haen and Fon once again hit back to back singles and Dylan Friend and Pierce followed with back to back home runs making the score 5-0.  LaCrosse got an unearned run on a throwing error in the bottom of the inning and put two runners on base in the ninth before a double play ended the game.  Liston (5-0) scattered 5 hits over 8 innings giving up the unearned run while striking out 8 and walking a pair for the win.  Austin Jones struck out one and walked one in an inning of relief.  Hean (2x4, double) and Fon (2x4) were the only WARHAWKS with multiple hits.  Friend (3) and Pierce (2) were the only WARHAWKS with RBI.

WARHAWKS: 11
LaCrosse: 3

The WARHAWKS plated a pair of runs in the third inning to take an early lead in game two.  Fon led off with a double and Friend put him on third when he followed with a single.  Both runners advanced and Fon scored when the Eagles' pitcher balked.  After Friend stole third Pierce drove him in with a single.  LaCrosse cut the deficit in half with a run in the fourth but the WARHAWKS matched it in the fifth on Casey Power's RBI single.  The WARHAWKS broke the game open with a six run seventh.  Friend's second three run home run of the day started things, Power followed with an RBI double, Trey Cannon added a run with an RBI single and Mike Mierow's sacrifice bunt scored the last run of the inning.  The Eagles added single runs in the sixth and seventh innings and the WARHAWKS added a pair in the ninth on Powers single.  Curtis Morgan (4-0) got the giving up all three runs (earned) on 11 hits while striking out 5 and walking one in 7 innings.  Donnie Manke struck out a pair in an inning of relief and Matt Langlie gave up a single hit in his inning of relief.  Friend (4x6, home run) drove in three runs while Power (3x5, double) drove in four runs.  Pierce (2x6), Fon (2x5, double), Michael Gonzalez (2x5, double) each had multiple hits.  Pierce, Cannon and Mierow each had a single RBI.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brian R. Carroll on April 13, 2014, 12:03:41 PM
BW- What do you think of the Copeland Park venue ?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 13, 2014, 12:35:04 PM
I wasn't there Brian but from the pictures of the park that I've seen it looks pretty nice.  Definitely a step up from the college diamond.  I'm hoping I can can get the video of the games today. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brian R. Carroll on April 13, 2014, 12:39:20 PM
Thank you. How about any WW fans who were there ?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 13, 2014, 03:21:33 PM
Superior knocks off Point in Game #1 of today's DH 8-3....  Seidl starts suspended game and gives up 6 runs in 6 IP, giving up 10 hits while striking out nine.

Whitewater leads La Crosse 5-1 in the 6th inning...

Platteville and Oshkosh PPD to tomorrow in Mauston....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 13, 2014, 04:48:45 PM
Break up the Yellow Jackets.  Sweep Point with 4-3 win in game two.  Fairbanks 2 run home run and grand slam home run in game 1. 

WARHAWKS postponed until tomorrow.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 13, 2014, 06:38:34 PM
Well it's a one team race for sure now this ranks right up there with losing to Lawrence a few years back.  Bottom line is point can't hit on consistent basis and now pitching is failing too.  Another night of no sleep for me I take losses like this very hard.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: formman on April 13, 2014, 07:31:57 PM
Quote from: Brian R. Carroll on April 13, 2014, 12:39:20 PM
Thank you. How about any WW fans who were there ?

The field itself is very nice. Field Turf infield with grass outfield. Had to use the lights for Saturday evenings game and they were very good. The amount of room behind home plate is a little short.

Overall dimensions are short. 325 to left field foul pole but there is a higher wall so it probably plays a little longer. Not sure about the other distances as they are not posted.

Not sure how I feel about running the game like a Northwoods league game rather than a WIAC game...Announcer was great and the sound system was adequate.

The wife says that the bathrooms need some updating but they are better than a porta-potty!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 14, 2014, 09:26:15 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 13, 2014, 06:38:34 PM
Well it's a one team race for sure now this ranks right up there with losing to Lawrence a few years back.  Bottom line is point can't hit on consistent basis and now pitching is failing too.  Another night of no sleep for me I take losses like this very hard.

Don't you think it's a bit early to be writing off the season?  Point still has quite a few games to play including four with us. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 14, 2014, 09:38:11 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 14, 2014, 09:26:15 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 13, 2014, 06:38:34 PM
Well it's a one team race for sure now this ranks right up there with losing to Lawrence a few years back.  Bottom line is point can't hit on consistent basis and now pitching is failing too.  Another night of no sleep for me I take losses like this very hard.

Don't you think it's a bit early to be writing off the season?  Point still has quite a few games to play including four with us.

You're not familiar with our friend Chicken Little?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 14, 2014, 11:26:13 AM
Yesterday's double header with LaCrosse originally pushed back to today has been canceled due to weather and will not be made up.  That's disappointing considering we were up 5-1 with bases loaded and one out away from a completed game.  I think the Superior/Point double header scheduled for today has also been canceled.  Unless things change it looks like Oshkosh and Platteville will play their double header in Mauston. 

Yes, I am familiar with Shine Time's tendency to overreact and I appreciate the fact he expects us to walk away with the league.  However I couldn't help but point out that it's premature particularly in light of the fact that it could be completely turned around by Friday.  I doubt anyone down here is looking at it that way. 

Edit:  I guess the game yesterday is official though the conference website hasn't included it in the standings.  I've been told that the rule is the same as that in MLB.  A game has to go at least 4 1/2 innings if the home team is winning and 5 complete innings if the visiting team is winning.  Yesterday's game went 5 2/3 innings so LaCrosse did bat in the fifth making the game complete.  At least that's what I've been told.  I'm not sure why the conference website hasn't updated it when they have updated everything else that happened yesterday.

Edit:  Today's Platteville/Oshkosh doubleheader has also been canceled and will not be reshcheduled.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 14, 2014, 03:00:08 PM
The conference website has been updated to include the game.

WARHAWKS: 3
LaCrosse: 1

The game was scoreless after two innings when a double and four walks put the WARHAWKS up 2-0.  LaCrosse cut the deficit in half with a run in the bottom of the inning on three consecutive singles and an infield groundout.  The WARHAWKS matched that run with one in the fourth inning on three singles and a stolen base.  LaCrosse threatened in the bottom of the inning but Michael Gonzalez threw out an Eagle runner at the plate ending the threat.  Scott Plaza (4-1) was credited with the win pitching scattering 8 hits, surrendering a single earned run with 3 strikeouts and a walk in five innings.  Casey Power had 2 RBI and Gonzalez had 1.  Each team left 8 runners on base.  Ben Cejka took the loss for the Eagles. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 14, 2014, 03:11:37 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 14, 2014, 11:26:13 AM
Yesterday's double header with LaCrosse originally pushed back to today has been canceled due to weather and will not be made up.  That's disappointing considering we were up 5-1 with bases loaded and one out away from a completed game.  I think the Superior/Point double header scheduled for today has also been canceled.  Unless things change it looks like Oshkosh and Platteville will play their double header in Mauston. 

Yes, I am familiar with Shine Time's tendency to overreact and I appreciate the fact he expects us to walk away with the league.  However I couldn't help but point out that it's premature particularly in light of the fact that it could be completely turned around by Friday.  I doubt anyone down here is looking at it that way. 

Edit:  I guess the game yesterday is official though the conference website hasn't included it in the standings.  I've been told that the rule is the same as that in MLB.  A game has to go at least 4 1/2 innings if the home team is winning and 5 complete innings if the visiting team is winning.  Yesterday's game went 5 2/3 innings so LaCrosse did bat in the fifth making the game complete.  At least that's what I've been told.  I'm not sure why the conference website hasn't updated it when they have updated everything else that happened yesterday.

Edit:  Today's Platteville/Oshkosh doubleheader has also been canceled and will not be reshcheduled.
It should return back to the score after the last completed inning, in which case Whitewater would win 3-1.  My guess is you will see that score posted on the WIAC site at some point today.

It will be interesting to see if that "extra" game affects the standings at the end of the year for La Crosse.  When you have so many teams hovering around the .500 mark right now, La Crosse might have been better off just having the game canceled instead of picking up an additional loss.

At the same time if you are Oshkosh, you are probably a tad bit irritated that you lose out on two games (and two more possible wins) against the last place WIAC team. 

Hopefully we don't see a repeat of 2003 when not getting games in cost one team the chance at a WIAC Championship.  That year Oshkosh finished 17-3 and took second place to Whitewater's 19-5.  Oshkosh missed out on two games against 3-18 Superior (who they outscored 35-0 in the two games they did play) and would have won the tiebreaker with Whitewater as they took three out of four against the Warhawks in the head-to-head match-ups.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 14, 2014, 06:18:31 PM
When's the last time point didn't make the conference tournament?  Does anyone think this May be the year they don't make it? 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 14, 2014, 06:31:34 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 14, 2014, 06:18:31 PM
When's the last time point didn't make the conference tournament?  Does anyone think this May be the year they don't make it?
Give it a rest already....   ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: mr_b on April 14, 2014, 07:35:57 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 13, 2014, 03:21:33 PM
Superior knocks off Point in Game #1 of today's DH 8-3....  Seidl starts suspended game and gives up 6 runs in 6 IP, giving up 10 hits while striking out nine.
I looked at the box score of this game.  Feyereisen started, gave up two runs in an inning-plus of work.  Seidl relieved and gave up six runs in six innings.  Point never held the lead or even tied.  Why was Seidl charged with the loss?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 14, 2014, 08:14:07 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 14, 2014, 06:18:31 PM
When's the last time point didn't make the conference tournament?  Does anyone think this May be the year they don't make it? 

LMAO, you do take it hard Shine.

No, I don't think this is the year that they don't make it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 14, 2014, 08:15:01 PM
Just saying point is playing less than stellar ball and it didn't just start vs superior.  They were extremely lucky to get 3 against lacrosse and played terrible game 2 against st Norbert.  I think my concern is legit especially if they can't win at least 1 or 2 at whitewater.  I think whitewaters offense is one of best the Wiac has seen in some time fon and pierce are locks for all America.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 14, 2014, 08:17:13 PM
I think trivia got the best of some of the players this weekend.  It's embarrassing to admit but I probably take the losses harder than most of the players.  Losing to superior is unacceptable especially for teams like point and whitewater.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 14, 2014, 08:35:17 PM
Quote from: mr_b on April 14, 2014, 07:35:57 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 13, 2014, 03:21:33 PM
Superior knocks off Point in Game #1 of today's DH 8-3....  Seidl starts suspended game and gives up 6 runs in 6 IP, giving up 10 hits while striking out nine.
I looked at the box score of this game.  Feyereisen started, gave up two runs in an inning-plus of work.  Seidl relieved and gave up six runs in six innings.  Point never held the lead or even tied.  Why was Seidl charged with the loss?
I tweeted UWSP Athletics the same thing on Sunday afternoon thinking they would make the change.  Guessing they either don't read their tweets or just don't care.  Doesn't say a lot about their SID.  I know of a few SID's that wouldn't miss that mistake and if they did, the change would be made when they became aware of it. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brian R. Carroll on April 14, 2014, 08:55:11 PM
Formman: Thanks for your comments on Copeland Park. I think your summary is a good one. When the Northwoods League began play in 2003, the players said they believed it would be a launching pad, but this has not proven to be the case. I believe the venue will be good for UWL and the WIAC. Your wife is right about the restroom facilities, and I hope the city will address the issue. In any case, the turf should reduce the number of rainouts.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 15, 2014, 10:44:17 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 14, 2014, 08:35:17 PM
Quote from: mr_b on April 14, 2014, 07:35:57 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 13, 2014, 03:21:33 PM
Superior knocks off Point in Game #1 of today's DH 8-3....  Seidl starts suspended game and gives up 6 runs in 6 IP, giving up 10 hits while striking out nine.
I looked at the box score of this game.  Feyereisen started, gave up two runs in an inning-plus of work.  Seidl relieved and gave up six runs in six innings.  Point never held the lead or even tied.  Why was Seidl charged with the loss?
I tweeted UWSP Athletics the same thing on Sunday afternoon thinking they would make the change.  Guessing they either don't read their tweets or just don't care.  Doesn't say a lot about their SID.  I know of a few SID's that wouldn't miss that mistake and if they did, the change would be made when they became aware of it. 

I checked the box score this morning and Feyereisen is listed as the losing pitcher so it's been corrected. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 15, 2014, 10:52:08 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 15, 2014, 10:44:17 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 14, 2014, 08:35:17 PM
Quote from: mr_b on April 14, 2014, 07:35:57 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 13, 2014, 03:21:33 PM
Superior knocks off Point in Game #1 of today's DH 8-3....  Seidl starts suspended game and gives up 6 runs in 6 IP, giving up 10 hits while striking out nine.
I looked at the box score of this game.  Feyereisen started, gave up two runs in an inning-plus of work.  Seidl relieved and gave up six runs in six innings.  Point never held the lead or even tied.  Why was Seidl charged with the loss?
I tweeted UWSP Athletics the same thing on Sunday afternoon thinking they would make the change.  Guessing they either don't read their tweets or just don't care.  Doesn't say a lot about their SID.  I know of a few SID's that wouldn't miss that mistake and if they did, the change would be made when they became aware of it. 

I checked the box score this morning and Feyereisen is listed as the losing pitcher so it's been corrected.
Maybe the "tweet" I sent the WIAC worked better than the one I sent to the UWSP SID.... ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: kluch on April 16, 2014, 12:55:58 PM
Can someone tell me why all of the MIAA conference games are only 7 innings? http://www.miaa.org/sports/bsb/2013-14/index (http://www.miaa.org/sports/bsb/2013-14/index)

Would the WIAC ever consider this?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 16, 2014, 01:21:59 PM
If the teams are playing a doubleheader NCAA rules allow 1. two nine inning games, 2. one nine inning game and one seven inning game or 3. two seven inning games.  I don't know the MIAA well enough to know if all of their schedule are doubleheaders but the games indicated on the link you've provided all appear to be doubleheaders.  That would make it appear that the conference has decided their games will be seven innings when they play doubleheaders. 

I don't know why the WIAC wouldn't "consider" it though at this point in time we've elected to go the two nine inning games route. Personally I hope that we leave it that way.  Baseball is a nine inning game, softball is a seven innning game. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 16, 2014, 01:55:07 PM
In my opinion, having all WIAC games be nine innings better prepares teams that end up making it to the Regionals/World Series. 

They end up having to develop more pitching depth in the regular season, and that depth comes in handy in a double elimination set-up like Regionals and the World Series.  Not a surprise that WIAC teams have traditionally done well at Regionals, and I tend to believe the success and choice to play nine inning games goes hand in hand.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 16, 2014, 10:50:31 PM
No predictions for whitewater point series?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 16, 2014, 11:41:55 PM
Whitewater scores 63 runs in the three games off of Seidl, JP, and Watson.... 

Bloom decides to forfeit last game of series and takes squad over to play Manawa Spurs to get their confidence back, but Jeremy Dunnihoo shuts them down while Adam Miller hits a solo HR for a 1-0 victory.

Sound about right? ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 16, 2014, 11:44:02 PM
That made my day lol I honestly think whitewater is going to score a ton of runs though.  You forgot billy Nolan he actually probably could've held this mighty war hawk lineup in check.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 17, 2014, 09:05:11 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 16, 2014, 11:41:55 PM
Whitewater scores 63 runs in the three games off of Seidl, JP, and Watson.... 

Bloom decides to forfeit last game of series and takes squad over to play Manawa Spurs to get their confidence back, but Jeremy Dunnihoo shuts them down while Adam Miller hits a solo HR for a 1-0 victory.

Sound about right? ;D

Hey... I had one of my best amateur games ever vs the Manawa Spurs:) Serious flashbacks right now.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 17, 2014, 03:19:38 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 17, 2014, 09:05:11 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 16, 2014, 11:41:55 PM
Whitewater scores 63 runs in the three games off of Seidl, JP, and Watson.... 

Bloom decides to forfeit last game of series and takes squad over to play Manawa Spurs to get their confidence back, but Jeremy Dunnihoo shuts them down while Adam Miller hits a solo HR for a 1-0 victory.

Sound about right? ;D

Hey... I had one of my best amateur games ever vs the Manawa Spurs:) Serious flashbacks right now.
Who were you playing for?  Seem to think MANY of guys might have had best games ever against the Spurs!!!   ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 17, 2014, 06:14:12 PM
The spurs had a decent two year stretch but typically aren't very strong.  Most of the guys they had that were talented such as dunnihoo adam grosskopf and bill Nolan all moved away.  Whitewater takes game 1 against point 7 to 4.  Oshkosh gets smoked 10 to 0 vs stout with messenger on mound where's Kachel
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 17, 2014, 07:14:18 PM
All I can say about game 2 is gdmfsoab
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 17, 2014, 08:22:51 PM
Four teams with five wins (Stevens Point, La Crosse, Oshkosh and Superior) and Stout with six wins in the battle for the final three spots in the WIAC Tournament.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on April 17, 2014, 09:07:14 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 17, 2014, 07:14:18 PM
All I can say about game 2 is gdmfsoab

I'm assuming you feel the same way about game one. 4-4 ballgame going into the bottom of the 7th when the Hawks scored 3 runs on two singles.  The decisive three runs in the 7th were scored on a passed ball, a balk, and a groundout. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 17, 2014, 10:41:34 PM
Why was coady trying to steal that cost point the game along with no runs in 3rd w bases loaded and no one out?  Can point please stick with one catcher?  Time to start playing for next year if they don't take both tomorrow
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 17, 2014, 10:51:47 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 17, 2014, 07:14:18 PM
All I can say about game 2 is gdmfsoab

Shine, Coach Mills and I suggest you stay away from sharp objects.  ;)
A  throwing error in the ninth didn't do a whole lot to help your cause, Shine.  It was senseless.


Stevens Point: 4
WARHAWKS: 7

Point got on the board first when Spetz single drove in a run in the third inning.  But the WARHAWKS answered with three of their own in the bottom of the inning.  Kyle Haen's triple drove in a pair and a ground out from Fon drove in the third.  Michael Gonzalez's single drove in a run in the fourth inning giving the WARHAWKS a 4-1 lead.  Point tied the score in the fifth inning on RBI singles by McHugh and Coady.  After neither team scored in the sixth the WARHAWKS plated the final three runs of the game on a passed ball, a balk and a ground out.  Connor Hurst (4-1) threw a complete game scattering 8 hits and striking out 7 without allowing a walk.  Three of the four Pointer runs were earned.  Feyereisen (3-3) was charged with the loss.  All 7 of the WARHAWKS runs were earned on 8 hits.  Mikole Pierce (2x4, double) was the only WARHAWKS hitter with multiple hits.  Haen (2), Gonzalez (2) and Jared Fon (1) had RBI.


Stevens Point: 4
WARHAWKS: 5   13 innings

Coady's solo home run in the top of the second got the Pointers on the board.  After the WARHAWKS loaded the bases and failed to score in both the second and third innings the Pointers added three more runs in the fifth on doubles by Kranz and McHugh.  Dylan Friend's two run home run in the bottom of the eighth got the WARHAWKS within a pair and Trey Cannon's RBI single cut the deficit to a single run when the inning ended.  With one out in the ninth Fon walked and stole second.  Pierce's ground out advanced him to third and a throwing error allowed him to score tying the game 4-4.  Both teams left a runner stranded in the tenth and neither team could get runners on base in innings eleven or twelve.  Point threatened in the thirteenth but Coady was caught stealing for the first out so the base on balls and Hanke's single that followed didn't result in a run when the WARHAWKS retired the side.  In the bottom of the inning Steve Chamberlain came off the bench and opened the at bat with a triple to deep right center.  After Mike Mierow's fly out to center proved to shallow to score Chamberlain Adam Gregory drilled a single to right center driving in the winning run.  Curtis Morgan started and pitched 7.2 innings surrendering all four Pointer runs on 6 hits while striking out a pair and walking 5.  Justin Mortenson pitched .2 inning in relief walking 3 and striking out 1.  Austin Jones releived Mortenson pitching 4 scoreless innings giving up a pair of hits while striking out and walking one.  Colin Grove (2-0) got the win with .2 inning of relief.  Friend (2x4, home run) and Gonzalez (2x6, double) had multiple hits.  Friend (2), Cannon (1) and Gregory (1) had RBI. 

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 18, 2014, 08:18:12 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 17, 2014, 10:41:34 PM
Why was coady trying to steal that cost point the game along with no runs in 3rd w bases loaded and no one out?  Can point please stick with one catcher?  Time to start playing for next year if they don't take both tomorrow
Yeah, why would you want to try and steal a base in extra innings with the guy who leads your team in stolen bases when your team hasn't scored in seven innings??  Crazy I tell you!!!  ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 18, 2014, 04:06:31 PM
Unreal point wins game 3.  Guess it's truly going to be a Good Friday.  If they win game 4 I may fall off bar stool tonight
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 18, 2014, 07:01:25 PM
Quote from: kluch on April 16, 2014, 12:55:58 PM
Can someone tell me why all of the MIAA conference games are only 7 innings? http://www.miaa.org/sports/bsb/2013-14/index (http://www.miaa.org/sports/bsb/2013-14/index)

Would the WIAC ever consider this?

If you are playing a true doubleheader (same opponent, game 2 immediately after game 1) teams/conferences can choose to play 7 inning games. Many do. In fact, I've seen teams make the NCAA Tournament who had no more than 2 or 3 nine inning games on their entire schedule.

If you are only playing a single game, then you can't play 7. You must play 9. (Although any 9-inning game can be mercy ruled into 7 innings by mutual agreement).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 19, 2014, 11:28:02 AM
Stevens Point: 5
WARHAWKS: 2

Kyle McHugh's RBI double in the first inning gave the Pointers the early lead.  The WARHAWKS got on the board in the fifth when two runs scored on wild pitches.  But the Pointers quickly matched those and regain the lead with a pair in the sixth and added single runs in both the seventh and ninth innings for the win.  Brock Liston (5-1) struggled with control walking six and giving up seven hits with a pair of strikeouts in six innings.  Liston allowed four runs (three earned).  Colin Grove finished the final three innings allowing a single run (earned) on one hit with a single strikeout and walk.  The WARHAWKS were only able to get four hits in the game.  Casey Power's double was the only extra base hit.

Point got an RBI double from McHugh, an RBI single from Riley Spetz, a home run from Cody Hanke and a pair of sacrifices.  Luke Watson was credited with the win.

Stevens Point: 3
WARHAWKS: 5

Michael Gonzalez's RBI single in the first opened the scoring staking the WARHAWKS to an early lead.  The Pointers answered with a run in the second but Gonzalez hit another RBI single in the third to regain the lead for the WARHAWKS.  Point tied the game for a second time with a run in the third and took a 3-2 lead when a run scored on a wild pitch in the sixth.  Nick Kuhlmann's RBI single in the bottom of the inning tied the game and Steve Chamberlain scored when Mikole Pierce had a fielder's choice RBI giving the WARHAWKS a 4-3 lead.  Dylan Friend's RBI single in the eighth finished the scoring as the WARHAWKS took three of four from the Pointers.  Gonzalez (2x4) had a pair of RBIs.  Friend (2x3), Kuhlmann (2x3) and Pierce each drove in a run.  Kyle Haen (double) and Mike Mierow (triple) had extra base hits.  Scott Plaza (5-1) got the win giving up three earned runs on four hits with seven strikeouts and five walks in seven innings.  Donnie Manke gave up a pair of hits and struck out one in an inning of relief and Andrew Lowe picked up a save when he pitched a scoreless ninth with a pair of walks.

Max Frederick took the loss in relief of Brad Stroik for the Pointers who had six hits in the game. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 20, 2014, 03:01:53 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 17, 2014, 03:19:38 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 17, 2014, 09:05:11 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 16, 2014, 11:41:55 PM
Whitewater scores 63 runs in the three games off of Seidl, JP, and Watson.... 

Bloom decides to forfeit last game of series and takes squad over to play Manawa Spurs to get their confidence back, but Jeremy Dunnihoo shuts them down while Adam Miller hits a solo HR for a 1-0 victory.

Sound about right? ;D

Hey... I had one of my best amateur games ever vs the Manawa Spurs:) Serious flashbacks right now.
Who were you playing for?  Seem to think MANY of guys might have had best games ever against the Spurs!!!   ;D

I was a Menasha Mac for a few summers.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 20, 2014, 04:11:37 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 20, 2014, 03:01:53 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 17, 2014, 03:19:38 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 17, 2014, 09:05:11 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 16, 2014, 11:41:55 PM
Whitewater scores 63 runs in the three games off of Seidl, JP, and Watson.... 

Bloom decides to forfeit last game of series and takes squad over to play Manawa Spurs to get their confidence back, but Jeremy Dunnihoo shuts them down while Adam Miller hits a solo HR for a 1-0 victory.

Sound about right? ;D

Hey... I had one of my best amateur games ever vs the Manawa Spurs:) Serious flashbacks right now.
Who were you playing for?  Seem to think MANY of guys might have had best games ever against the Spurs!!!   ;D

I was a Menasha Mac for a few summers.
That honestly would have been my first guess....  Let's just say things haven't changed and they still draw players from all over the state and carry a MLB-like 40-man roster!!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 20, 2014, 04:19:16 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 20, 2014, 04:11:37 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 20, 2014, 03:01:53 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 17, 2014, 03:19:38 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 17, 2014, 09:05:11 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 16, 2014, 11:41:55 PM
Whitewater scores 63 runs in the three games off of Seidl, JP, and Watson.... 

Bloom decides to forfeit last game of series and takes squad over to play Manawa Spurs to get their confidence back, but Jeremy Dunnihoo shuts them down while Adam Miller hits a solo HR for a 1-0 victory.

Sound about right? ;D

Hey... I had one of my best amateur games ever vs the Manawa Spurs:) Serious flashbacks right now.
Who were you playing for?  Seem to think MANY of guys might have had best games ever against the Spurs!!!   ;D

I was a Menasha Mac for a few summers.
That honestly would have been my first guess....  Let's just say things haven't changed and they still draw players from all over the state and carry a MLB-like 40-man roster!!!!

They didn't have to go far to get me... I grew walking distance from their home park (Koslo Field) and I played on my summers home from Carthage. Had quite a few Carthage and Oshkosh guys on those teams.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on April 21, 2014, 02:28:09 PM
This just came down from the Journal Sentinel - Superior wants to leave the WIAC:

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/statecolleges/uw-superior-moves-to-leave-wiac-for-minnesota-conference-b99252592z1-256049331.html

" . . . The departure of UW-Superior, which would continue to compete in the WIAC in men's and women's ice hockey, would leave the WIAC with eight members.

The WIAC sport that could suffer the most damage is baseball. If UW-Superior leaves the conference has only seven schools that sponsor baseball. That is below the NCAA minimum of eight needed for a league to get an automatic bid in the Division III tournament.

"When they first discussed this with me my first reaction was: 'Why would you be doing this?'" WIAC commissioner Gary Karner said. "But when I looked at the circumstances and broke it all down it makes a lot of sense."

A move to the UMAC would cut travel costs and allow UW-Superior to compete against schools with similar enrollments . . ."


Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 21, 2014, 02:47:57 PM
Let them find another conference in which to compete in men and women's hockey.  The WIAC already made an exception allowing them to remain in the league after they dropped football and now they expect the league to accomodate them when they aren't interested in competing in any other WIAC sports.  I understand their issues and it certainly makes sense from their perspective but it doesn't sit right with me.  Baseball loses their automatic bid which hurts every other program in the league.  Sports other than football will now have to schedule additional nonconference games which have already proved a challenge to find. In the meantime they pick and chose which sports they want to compete in our league.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 21, 2014, 03:17:46 PM
Well that would certainly change the at-large landscape. Hard to argue the logic of this for UW-Superior though.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AO on April 21, 2014, 08:08:06 PM
I asked this question on the basketball board but didn't get a response.  Why did Eau Claire drop baseball? 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 21, 2014, 10:33:17 PM
Quote from: AO on April 21, 2014, 08:08:06 PM
I asked this question on the basketball board but didn't get a response.  Why did Eau Claire drop baseball?
$$$$$$
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MasterJedi on April 22, 2014, 10:06:58 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 21, 2014, 02:47:57 PM
Let them find another conference in which to compete in men and women's hockey.  The WIAC already made an exception allowing them to remain in the league after they dropped football and now they expect the league to accomodate them when they aren't interested in competing in any other WIAC sports.  I understand their issues and it certainly makes sense from their perspective but it doesn't sit right with me.  Baseball loses their automatic bid which hurts every other program in the league.  Sports other than football will now have to schedule additional nonconference games which have already proved a challenge to find. In the meantime they pick and chose which sports they want to compete in our league.   

Any way they can be forced not to leave? If so do that and mandate they have to restart football. Throw the book at them.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 22, 2014, 11:12:43 AM
Quote from: MasterJedi on April 22, 2014, 10:06:58 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 21, 2014, 02:47:57 PM
Let them find another conference in which to compete in men and women's hockey.  The WIAC already made an exception allowing them to remain in the league after they dropped football and now they expect the league to accomodate them when they aren't interested in competing in any other WIAC sports.  I understand their issues and it certainly makes sense from their perspective but it doesn't sit right with me.  Baseball loses their automatic bid which hurts every other program in the league.  Sports other than football will now have to schedule additional nonconference games which have already proved a challenge to find. In the meantime they pick and chose which sports they want to compete in our league.   

Any way they can be forced not to leave? If so do that and mandate they have to restart football. Throw the book at them.

What on earth would that accomplish?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 22, 2014, 11:39:54 AM
If they could find an associate member that was willing to join just for baseball, I think the WIAC would do that. Other than that, I don't think it changes much.

So if UWS leaves the UMAC commissioner said the earliest they could join would be 2015-16 and the WIAC drops to six baseball teams. The NCAA allows a two-year grace period on AQs when a conference falls below 7 members. So the WIAC won't lose an AQ in baseball until at least 2018. So they have a solid four years to either find an associate member or see if UWEC or UWRF wants to restart baseball. UWEC is probably closer to doing that since they have a fairly solid club program (as solid as a club program can be anyway). UWEC is also in the middle of an athletics director search so who that person is and what they want to do would have a big effect.

Even if they can't get back to seven members I don't know if it changes the fortunes of the league that much. UWW and UWSP are nearly Pool C locks every year anyway. Now they would be considered in Pool B first, and then Pool C if they didn't get in. Last year there were four Pool B bids. With the addition of six WIAC schools to Pool B, that might raise it to five Pool B bids for the country. For the foreseeable future it's going to be hard to imagine that the top two WIAC schools aren't among the best 4-5 Pool B teams in the country. But again 2018 looks like the earliest that could happen.

Hurts more for the rest of the league who are often playing for the "one good shot" entry through the WIAC Tournament and the AQ. Those schools are now going to have to get in based on an entire season of work which, of course, is much harder.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 22, 2014, 06:27:31 PM
Point gets back on winning track in game 1 vs Oshkosh.  Looks like seidl didn't pitch his best but still gets much needed w.  Where's Kachel?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Babe Truth on April 22, 2014, 06:59:17 PM
And the WSJ reporting on Superior's intentions, including speculation of what possibilities might follow, likely or not:

http://host.madison.com/sports/cory-jennerjohn-what-does-the-future-hold-for-the-wiac/article_eeb33522-ca65-11e3-aa25-001a4bcf887a.html

Other than losing the auto tourney bid for a lower seed, I also don't see a big negative impact. No more byes, no brutal April weather along Lake Superior, no dual distant weekday trips to/from Superior for the unlucky few. Just a couple holes in the schedule to deal with, and maybe 6 to 8 fewer wins for the better teams to find elsewhere to pad the record.

I'd been wondering about the longshot chances of UWEC resurrecting their program, maybe following the lead of UWL's partnership with the La Crosse Loggers with a similar cooperative arrangement with the EC Express.  Obviously that's more pressing to accomplish when you have an existing program in place and its future might be in jeopardy, than if you're starting over.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 22, 2014, 08:19:59 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 19, 2014, 10:38:26 PM
Oshkosh could surprise this year I think they have best pitching staff they've had in many years.  As many know I'm high on messenger and see him as a solid number 1 on most staffs.
About the only surprise would be is if UWO finishes in last place for the first time in WIAC history.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 22, 2014, 09:07:29 PM
How are they so terrible all of a sudden did Kachel quit or get hurt?  Messenger is certainly not like he was last year.  Either way point got two wins and really needs to finish season unbeaten to lock up at large bid sorry but no one in nation is beating whitewater this year most loaded team I've seen in Wiac in long time.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 22, 2014, 09:16:31 PM
Do you mean with the exception of the three teams which already have?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 22, 2014, 10:11:47 PM
I meant come regionals when it matters it just seems to me that whitewater is coasting along with ease through conference and will shift to different gear come playoffs.  The Wiac is typically the best conference in country but I don't know this year whitewater is making it look too easy.  If fon is not available ill change my mind though he's a first team all America talent.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 22, 2014, 10:27:17 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 22, 2014, 09:07:29 PM
How are they so terrible all of a sudden did Kachel quit or get hurt? Messenger is certainly not like he was last year.  Either way point got two wins and really needs to finish season unbeaten to lock up at large bid sorry but no one in nation is beating whitewater this year most loaded team I've seen in Wiac in long time.
All of a sudden? 

I think it's safe to say the victory over St. Thomas made for some unreal expectations.  If anything, I think that was the exception, rather than the norm.

As far as Kachel, supposedly be broke his ankle in practice the day before the Whitewater DH.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 23, 2014, 10:08:14 AM
WARHAWKS: 9
Platteville: 3

After three scoreless innings the WARHAWKS got on the board with four runs in the fourth.  Casey Power's RBI single, a throwing error on a pickoff attempt, Mike Mierow's sacrifice bunt and a groundout by Steve Chamberlain accounted for the scoring.  The WARHAWKS added a run in the fifth when Mikole Pierce hit a sacrifice fly.  Platteville responded with all three runs of their runs in the bottom of the inning on a sacrifice fly and Zach Iverson's single.  Adam Gregory's RBI single along with an RBI single by Nic Kuhlmann and a sacrifice fly from Dylan Friend rounded out the scoring for the WARHAWKS.  Justin Mortenson started giving up 3 earned runs on 6 hits with a pair of walks and 3 strikeouts in 4.2 innings.  Austin Jones (1-1) picked up the win allowing a single hit with a pair of walks and a strikeout in three innings.  Connor Hurst finished the final 1.1 innings allowing a pair of hits.  Casey Power led the offense going 4x5 with 2 runs scored and 1 RBI.  Friend 2x4 and Pierce 2x4 had multiple hits and each drove in a run.   Mierow, Chamberlain and Gregory all had an RBI.


WARHAWKS: 7
Platteville: 0

Casey Power's RBI double in the first opened the scoring.  Michael Gonzalez's RBI double in the third and Adam Gregory's RBI double in the fourth added a pair of runs.  Mikole Pierce's solo home run fifth increased the lead to 4-0 and Mike Mierow's bases loaded double in the ninth brought all three baserunners home finishing the scoring for the WARHAWKS.  Curtis Morgan (5-0) surrendered three hits and struck out three in seven innings for the win.  Colin Grove allowed a single hit and struck out a pair in two innings of relief.  Mierow led the offense going 3x5.  Pierce followed with 2 hits in 4 at bats scoring 3 times.  Mierow (3), Pierce (1), Gonzalez (1), Power (1) and Gregory (1) all had RBI.   

   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 24, 2014, 04:15:38 PM
First NCAA regional rankings: http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2014/04/regional-rankings-week-one

Midwest Region
1.   Wisconsin-Whitewater   21-4   21-4   
2.   Concordia Chicago   21-2   23-2   
3.   St. Thomas (Minnesota)   23-5   23-5   
4.   Wisconsin-Stevens Point   18-7   18-7   
5.   Bethel (Minnesota)   17-5   17-6   
6.   St. Scholastica   15-10   15-10
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 24, 2014, 04:38:59 PM
I was wondering if St Scholastica would be included.  Ten losses is quite a few though they'll probably get an automatic bid when they win their league.  The St Scholastica team I saw play us wasn't anything like the Saint teams I've been accustomed to seeing. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 24, 2014, 09:25:43 PM
I'm somewhat surprised point is 4 they haven't been playing very good ball the past month.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on April 24, 2014, 09:44:13 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 24, 2014, 04:38:59 PM
I was wondering if St Scholastica would be included.  Ten losses is quite a few though they'll probably get an automatic bid when they win their league.  The St Scholastica team I saw play us wasn't anything like the Saint teams I've been accustomed to seeing.

You are correct in your assessment that this years saints team has not played the type of baseball their teams have played in the last few years.  They have had their best schedule SOS wise in years though playing uww, Webster, conc c, st. Thomas... But have not really beaten anyone good.  I have not seen them play yet this year (4 more inches of snow in Duluth today) but word on the street is that they are young and missing some offense compared to the last few seasons.

With all that said... My guess is they would love to be the associate member of the wiac baseball conference... Playing against the best makes you better.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AO on April 25, 2014, 08:25:15 AM
Quote from: biggio34 on April 24, 2014, 09:44:13 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 24, 2014, 04:38:59 PM
I was wondering if St Scholastica would be included.  Ten losses is quite a few though they'll probably get an automatic bid when they win their league.  The St Scholastica team I saw play us wasn't anything like the Saint teams I've been accustomed to seeing.

You are correct in your assessment that this years saints team has not played the type of baseball their teams have played in the last few years.  They have had their best schedule SOS wise in years though playing uww, Webster, conc c, st. Thomas... But have not really beaten anyone good.  I have not seen them play yet this year (4 more inches of snow in Duluth today) but word on the street is that they are young and missing some offense compared to the last few seasons.

With all that said... My guess is they would love to be the associate member of the wiac baseball conference... Playing against the best makes you better.
I agree that playing against the best makes you better but this year's schedule proved you can do that in the non-conference schedule.  They wouldn't have been regionally ranked without their SOS.   They have found plenty of ways to play against the best of the WIAC without joining the conference.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: therocket21 on April 25, 2014, 09:20:11 AM
True, they have found plenty of ways to play against the best of the WIAC early in the season, but what about the quality of the teams they face the few weeks leading up to the regional? CSS would benefit from playing those WIAC teams later in the season when it gets closer to regional time. Some years I feel CSS isn't ready for the regional games because they play non-regional opponents the last 3 weeks of their season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AO on April 25, 2014, 09:34:25 AM
Quote from: therocket21 on April 25, 2014, 09:20:11 AM
True, they have found plenty of ways to play against the best of the WIAC early in the season, but what about the quality of the teams they face the few weeks leading up to the regional? CSS would benefit from playing those WIAC teams later in the season when it gets closer to regional time. Some years I feel CSS isn't ready for the regional games because they play non-regional opponents the last 3 weeks of their season.
If you believe in the poll the Saints have overachieved in the regional the last 3 years.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: therocket21 on April 25, 2014, 12:32:08 PM
Can't argue with that. Good point.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 26, 2014, 03:22:25 PM
Stout beats whitewater game 1 point clobbers platteville Jp fired 1 hitter.  Looks like lacrosse is spanking superior also.  This league is hard to figure out
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 26, 2014, 09:17:27 PM
Game 2 is why whitewater is a championship team wow.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 27, 2014, 04:35:46 PM
Platteville leads Point 12-4 in the 8th inning...

Cue shinetime blow-up in 3, 2, 1, ..........
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 27, 2014, 07:52:18 PM
Impressive showing by Stout's pitching staff this weekend....   They held Whitewater to 13 runs in four games (that includes a seven run "outburst" in Game #3) while managing to split with the Warhawks.  They have six games left (two with Superior and four with Point.)  If they get a pair of wins against Superior they likely secure a spot in the WIAC Tournament. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 27, 2014, 08:03:52 PM
Point lost game 2 in five innings I don't see way they make tournament just playing awful.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 27, 2014, 08:28:14 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 27, 2014, 08:03:52 PM
Point lost game 2 in five innings I don't see way they make tournament just playing awful.
WIAC Tournament?

Somebody has to lose between Stout and Superior, so I don't think there is any way they miss out.  If they lose all four at Stout next weekend, I still think they get in.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 27, 2014, 08:57:30 PM
I'm planning on point maybe winning one if lucky 2 just can't get timely hitting and base running is horrendous. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 28, 2014, 10:46:13 AM
Saturday

Stout: 3
WARHAWKS: 1

Stout took the early lead with an RBI single in the first inning.  The WARHAWKS tied the game with Trey Cannon's RBI single in the second. After that the WARHAWKS stranded runners in scoring position in the third, fifth, sixth, seventh and eighth innings when we were unable to get the clutch hit.  Stout's bats heated up in the ninth when they got a pair of seeing eye singles and a double to push two runs across the plate and secure the win.  Scott Plaza (5-2) pitched well enough to win had he gotten any kind of run support.  Plaza went 8.1 innings scattering 8 hits while striking out six and walking a pair.  All three Stout runs were earned.  Colin Grove relieved walking one and striking out one in .2 inning.  Casey Power (double) and Mike Mierow each had a pair of hits

Brent Mueller held the WARHAWKS to just five hits while picking up the complete game win.


Stout: 3
WARHAWKS: 4

Game two started like game one in that Stout got on the board first with an RBI single in the third inning.  The WARHAWKS tied it on Nic Kuhlmann's sac fly in the sixth.  The Blue Devils regained the lead in the eighth 3-1 in the eighth when they got a pair of doubles and an RBI single.  This time the WARHAWKS were able to rally in their last at bat.  Kuhlman and Kyle Haen opened the inning with back to back singles and the bases were loaded when Jared Fon was hit by a pitch.  Dylan Friend drove in the first run with a single and Mickole Pierce's single drove in a pair when the Stout outfielder misplayed the ball which allowed the second run to score unearned.  Though we got the clutch hits in the end the WARHAWKS stranded runners in scoring position in three innings and a total of twelve in the game.  Connor Hurst started going 8 innings allowing 8 hits, 3 earned runs with walk and 6 strikeouts.  Austin Jones (2-1) picked up the win with a scoreless ninth inning with a strikeout.  Friend, Pierce, Cannon and Mierow (double) each had a pair of hits.  Friend, Pierce and Kuhlmann (double) each had a single RBI. 

A fund raiser for the American Cancer Society was successfull in raising $3500-$4000 (don't know the exact total) on Saturday with the game uniform jerseys still to be auctioned off. 

Sunday

Stout: 4
WARHAWKS: 7

After being retired in order for the first two innings the WARHAWKS took the lead with a four run third inning in Sunday's first game.  Haen, Fon, Friend and Pierce all drove in runs with three singles and a triple respectively.  Stout got on the board with an RBI single in the sixth but the WARHAWKS matched that and added a pair with three runs of their own in the bottom of the inning.  Adam Gregory and Kuhlmann each had RBIs in the inning.  Stout cut the deficit to three runs with three runs in the seventh but that was as close as they would get.  Brock Liston (6-1) went 6.1 innings allowing 10 hits, 4 runs (3 earned) with 8 strikeouts and a pair of walks to pick up the win.  John Olejniczak made his first appearance on the mount giving up just a single hit in 1.2 innings of relief.  Austin Jones picked up his second save of the season allowing a single hit and striking out two batters.  Haen, Michael Gonzalez, Gregory (double) and Kuhlmann each had a pair of hits.  Kuhlmann drove in two runs while Haen, Fon, Friend, Pierce and Gregory drove in a single run. 

Stout stranded 9 runners on base in this game.


Stout: 2
WARHAWKS: 1

The WARHAWKS got a single run in the third inning when Gregory led off with a double, advanced to third on Haen's single and scored when Friend singled.  That run stood until the ninth inning when Ryan Frietag hit a towering home run over deep left center to tie the game.  After getting the next hitter out Brett Vavra singled but his pinch runner was picked off of first for the second out.  A hit batter gave the Blue Devil's another runner and he advanced to second on a passed ball. It looked like the WARHAWKS would get out of the inning when the next batter hit a routine ground ball but a throwing error allowed the runner to score from second giving the Blue Devils the 2-1 lead.  The WARHAWKS were able to get the lead off hitter on base and advance him to third in their at bat but a fly ball out to right field ended the game.  Curtis Morgan pitched well scattering six hits while walking one and striking out four in 8.2 innings.  Morgan was charged with both runs (one earned).  Donnie Manke (0-1), .1 inning,  was given the loss though I'm confused how that can be the case when Morgan was charged with both runs.  Once again the WARHAWKS bats were silenced as the team only got 5 hits in the game with Haen and Gregory each having two of them.  Friend had the only WARHAWKS rbi.

It was a disappointing weekend which allowed LaCrosse to move to within a pair of games of the lead though it's actually three games considering the tie breaker which is held by the WARHAWKS.  The WARHAWKS got good enough pitching that could have allowed us to sweep the series but credit to the Stout staff too as they pitched well enough that they could have taken 3 of the 4 games themselves. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 28, 2014, 10:47:48 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 26, 2014, 03:22:25 PM
This league is hard to figure out

That will happen when you take isolated events and exaggerate their significance.  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 28, 2014, 10:49:22 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 28, 2014, 10:47:48 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 26, 2014, 03:22:25 PM
This league is hard to figure out

That will happen when you take isolated events and exaggerate their significance.  ;)

+1
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 30, 2014, 09:48:24 AM
That's interesting. I'm pretty sure you can't redshirt in Division III. I'm guessing the reporter meant to say "spent a year where he was on the pseudo JV/club team where he had absolutely no contact with varsity coaching staff"

"Instead of making an instant impact on the Whitewater program, Haen spent a redshirt year refining his swing and changing his offensive approach."

Or wait, he did have contact with coaching staff...

The year away from the game was difficult for Haen. But the Whitewater staff made sure their player knew he was important to them. Haen went along on trips and last year’s team welcomed the outsider to the program.

“It was great for me,” Haen said. “I worked hard, the coaching staff worked with me in the fall and spring on swing mechanics and on just getting better as a player. I was in the weight room a little more, added some strength and quickness and that was probably the best thing for me.


Read more: http://host.madison.com/sports/college/state-and-regional/whitewater/wiac-baseball-madison-edgewood-s-kyle-haen-reinvents-himself-at/article_b0d5e543-9dfa-50ef-905b-20dfca57b8f3.html#ixzz30NRPVYR0

I think UWW might have some explaining to do to the WIAC office. That looks fishy as anything.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 30, 2014, 09:59:36 PM
Point takes two at ripon today and are now 24 and 9.  Is there any chance point gets an at large if they don't win all 4 at stout? 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 30, 2014, 10:04:52 PM
Whitewater is far and away the best d3 men's program right now it's just not even close or fair May as well chalk up the baseball title to go along with football and basketball titles.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 01, 2014, 12:06:24 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 30, 2014, 10:04:52 PM
Whitewater is far and away the best d3 men's program right now it's just not even close or fair May as well chalk up the baseball title to go along with football and basketball titles.
After a pair of one run games against lowly Oshkosh today, not sure about that...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 01, 2014, 09:55:24 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 30, 2014, 10:04:52 PM
Whitewater is far and away the best d3 men's program right now it's just not even close or fair May as well chalk up the baseball title to go along with football and basketball titles.

You can probably expect to continue to be equally confused.  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 01, 2014, 10:52:18 AM
Oshkosh: 7
WARHAWKS: 8

The WARHAWKS drew first blood when Mikole Pierce's two run home run cleared the left field fence in the first inning and added another pair of runs in the third on a fielders choice and Casey Power's triple.  The lead increase to 5-0 in the fourth Dylan Friend hit a solo shot clearing the right field fence.  Oshkosh rallied in the sixth inning when five consecutive hits, a walk and double play with the bases loaded pushed four runs across cutting the deficit to a single run.  The WARHAWKS padded their lead in the bottom of the inning when a throwing error allowed the lead off hitter to reach base and Nick Kuhlmann tripled.  Kyle Haen followed with a home run pushing the WARHAWKS lead to 8-4.  But the Titans weren't finished scoring as Trey Delmer's two run home run in the seventh cut the deficit to 8-6 and an RBI single in the eighth made it a one run game.  However that ended the scoring as the Titan's were retired in order in the ninth.  Connor Hurst (5-1) was credited with the win.  Hurst went 5 innings giving up 4 earned runs on 7 hits with a single strikeout.  Curtis Morgan gave up 2 earned runs on 2 hits with a pair of walks and strikeouts in 2 innings of relief.  Colin Grove picked up his first save of the season giving up a single earned run on 2 hits with a pair of strikeouts in his 2 innings of relief.  Friend (2x4, 3 RS, 1 RBI, triple, home run),
Pierce (2x3, 1 RS, 2 RBI, home run) and Casey Power (2x4, 1 RBI, triple) had multiple hits.  Haen (2), Michael Gonzaez (1) and Kuhlmann (1) had RBI.  As a team the WARHAWKS had 7 extra base hits.

James Lacy took the loss while Demler had 3 RBIs to lead the Titans.

Oshkosh: 0
WARHAWKS: 1   11 innings

As the score suggests the second game was a pitchers duel with Ben Messenger and Scott Plaza both controling the others batting order.  Each pitcher threw 9 shutout innings.  Each pitcher allowed only four hits.  Messenger struck out five and walked a pair.  Plaza struck out 11 without a walk.  After each pitcher faced six batters in the first inning over the next eight innings Plaza only faced three batters and Messenger only faced six batters over the minimum.  Plaza retired the side in six innings, Messenger did it in four but neither would factor in the win.  After Austin Jones retired the Titans in order in the 10th and Joe Pavlovich did the same against the WARHAWKS the Titans stranded a runner on base in the 11th.  Haen led off the WARHAWKS at bat with a towering drive to the outfield which appeared to be an out.  However the Titan fielder dropped the ball allowing Haen to reach second.  A sacrifice bunt advanced him to third and the bases filled when Friend was intentionally walked and Pierce waited out a 1-2 count into another base on balls.  And proving conclusively that it is better to be lucky than good the winning run scored when Gonzalez, who had struck out in his four previous at bats, was plunked in the shoulder forcing in Haen. Austin Jones (3-1) picked up the win with his 2 inning 1 hit 3 strikeouts performance in relief.  Pierce (2x3) had half of the WARHAWKS four hits. 

Pavlovich took the loss while Trent Whitcomb led the Titans with 2 of their 5 hits in the game.

LaCrosse beat up on Platteville to stay within 2 games of first heading into the final weekend.  Stout and Superior were unable to play and rescheduled their doubleheader for Friday 5/2 which, if played, will stretch their pitching staffs.   Each has a pair of doubleheaders (Stout vs Point) (Superior vs WHITEWATER) on the weekend as the two programs battle for a spot in the conference tournament.   
   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 03, 2014, 09:31:37 PM
I'm shocked that Just Bill hasn't gotten any replies to his most recent post!!!   ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 04, 2014, 11:05:15 AM
WARHAWKS: 15
Superior: 5
8 innings

WARHAWKS: 11
Superior: 9

Superior opened the scoring with three runs in the first inning of game two but WARHAWKS immediately answered with four runs of their own in their next at bat.  Gregory and Trey Cannon each hit RBI doubles and Fon drove in a pair with single.  Superior tied the game with a run in the third inning.  The WARHAWKS regained the lead 6-4 in the fifth on a passed ball and RBI single from Mierow.  Superior took their second lead of the game 7-6 with three runs of their own in the bottom of the inning.  The WARHAWKS took the lead for good, 10-7, in sixth inning when, with the bases loaded, Pierce tripled and Gregory hit a sac fly.  Superior cut their deficit to a pair with a run in the bottom of the inning but the WARHAWKS answered with one of their own in the seventh on a fielders choice making it 11-8.  The Yellow Jackets closed out the scoring with a single run in the bottom of the inning.  Curtis Morgan started but struggled giving up 10 hits, 7 runs (5 earned) with 3 walks and 5 strikeouts in 4.2 innings.  John Olejniczak finished the fifth inning giving up a single earned run on 2 hits while walking a pair.  Andrew Lowe (1-0) picked up the win surrendering a single earned run on 2 hits with 4 strikeouts in the final four innings.  Fon (2x4), Dylan Friend (3x4, double), Power (2x4, double, triple), Gregory (3x4, double), Mierow (2x5) and Cannon (2x5, double) had multiple hits.  Friend (2), Pierce (1), Gregory (2), Power (3), Mierow (1) and Cannon (1) all drove in runs.

The win coupled with LaCrosse's loss to Oshkosh clinched the conference championship. 



Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 04, 2014, 08:22:48 PM
So I wonder how Coach Tomasiewicz and the players at Oshkosh are feeling about right now....

Had UWO gotten their two games in (and won both) against Platteville, Oshkosh would be playing in the WIAC Tournament next weekend.  Instead, Stout will go in as the #4 seed.  (Both would have finished 10-14 in WIAC play, and UWO beat Stout three out of four.)

Would be nice if they just allowed the teams to make games up when scheduling works like they do in the Midwest Conference.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on May 04, 2014, 08:30:25 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 04, 2014, 08:22:48 PM
So I wonder how Coach Tomasiewicz and the players at Oshkosh are feeling about right now....

Had UWO gotten their two games in (and won both) against Platteville, Oshkosh would be playing in the WIAC Tournament next weekend.  Instead, Stout will go in as the #4 seed.  (Both would have finished 10-14 in WIAC play, and UWO beat Stout three out of four.)

Would be nice if they just allowed the teams to make games up when scheduling works like they do in the Midwest Conference.

It would probably more productive for them to focus on why they were so terrible this year. With the conference record they had, I find it REALLY hard to feel sorry for them.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 04, 2014, 09:10:56 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on May 04, 2014, 08:30:25 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 04, 2014, 08:22:48 PM
So I wonder how Coach Tomasiewicz and the players at Oshkosh are feeling about right now....

Had UWO gotten their two games in (and won both) against Platteville, Oshkosh would be playing in the WIAC Tournament next weekend.  Instead, Stout will go in as the #4 seed.  (Both would have finished 10-14 in WIAC play, and UWO beat Stout three out of four.)

Would be nice if they just allowed the teams to make games up when scheduling works like they do in the Midwest Conference.

It would probably more productive for them to focus on why they were so terrible this year. With the conference record they had, I find it REALLY hard to feel sorry for them.
Maybe the fact that there was little to no recruiting class with the mess the university made of the baseball program this year?  Can't really blame Coach Tomasiewicz, his staff, or players for any of that.

Anyway, it honestly doesn't bother me one bit that UWO missed out on the WIAC Tournament...  Just think it would be nice if the WIAC gave the schools some say in rescheduling games instead of mandating four games need to be done in three days if visiting team has already gotten on the road. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 04, 2014, 09:23:02 PM
Swift and Polcyn leaving along with Kachel getting hurt really crushed their offense.  I'm guessing they would've been much better.  Will whitewater even get a game at Wiac tourney is the question.
Title: UWO 2014 Season
Post by: 8404DOC on May 05, 2014, 08:29:49 AM
Having seen a majority of the UWO games I have to say key players leaving and injuries played a big part in the lack off offense and defense.  It was also painfully clear that the new coach has a tremendous amount to learn.  Repeated examples of trying to be aggresive, guys on first and third with two outs and Demler in a position to tie the game or take the lead with one swing of the bat, no he puts on the hit and run or calls for a staright steal with Demler only seeing one pitch.  Trying several times to get in the old run down at second sending the runner from third, didn't work all year and to be honest if you can't stop that play at this level something is wrong, and if you keep attempting it and don't execute all year you should seriously re-think your gameplan. The most painful aspect of the whole year was a lack of execution of the most basic fundamentals of baseball, making the third out at home or third when you clearly didn't have a shot at scoring, a bunt up the first base line and the pitcher, first base, and second base all standing there looking at each other wondering who is supposed to be covering the bag, didn't help that UWO had a revolving door at the first base position.  The differences in the past coach and the new coach are glaring but I don't think comparing would benefit anybody at this point.
Bottom line is the learning curve will be very steep for the new coach and to be honest if he doesn't make some quick changes to his style I don't see him lasting. I really don't want to be overly critical as I have never coached at the college level but the fundamentals of the game don't change.  I look forward to your thoughts.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 05, 2014, 09:52:15 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 03, 2014, 09:31:37 PM
I'm shocked that Just Bill hasn't gotten any replies to his most recent post!!!   ;D
I did privately. I'm not entirely satisfied with the explanation based on my own knowledge of the situation, but I'm willing to let it pass. If a rule has been broken I'll leave it to those who sort it out to do their job (and if not, so be it). I raised the issue, but it doesn't need to be tried here.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 05, 2014, 10:58:14 AM
If existing rumors are true Oshkosh is bringing in a boat load of recruits next year.  I've heard as many as 20.  If that's the case it sounds like there's going to be some changes up there. 

WARHAWKS: 10
Superior: 6

Mikole Pierce's single drove in a pair of runs in the first inning and Mike Mierow's groundout scored a third as the WARHAWKS jumped out to a 3-0 lead by the fourth inning.  However Superior's bats got going and with a pair of doubles, a pair of singles and a throwing error gave them a 4-3 lead in the bottom of the inning.  Trey Cannon's solo home run in the sixth tied the game but the Yellow Jackets jumped back in front 6-4 with a pair of runs in their at bat.  Dylan Friend's RBI double cut the deficit to a single run and Adam Gregory's sac fly tied the game 6-6 in the eighth inning.  With one out in the ninth the WARHAWKS loaded the bases with one out.  Singles by Cannon and Adam Gregory each drove in a pair of runs making the score 10-6 and sealed the win when the Yellow Jackets were retired in order.  Connor Hurst started giving up 4 runs (3 earned) on 9 hits with a strike out in 4.1 innings.  Austin Jones (4-1) finished the final 4.2 innings allowing 2 earned runs on 3 hits with a walk and 3 strikeouts.  Nic Kuhlmann led the 16 hit WARHAWKS offense going 4x5 (3 doubles).  Cannon followed with 3 hits in 5 at bats.  Pierce (2x5), Casey Power (2x5) and Mierow (2x4) each had multiple hits.  Friend (1), Pierce (2), Cannon (3), Mierow (1) and Gregory (3) all drove in runs.

WARHAWKS: 15
Superior: 0

The WARHAWKS jumped all over the Yellow Jackets in game two scoring 6 runs in their first at bat.  They added 2 runs in the second, third and fourth innings and 3 runs in the fifth ending the game by the run rule in seven.  Justin Mortenson (1-0) scattered 8 hits walked 4 batters and struck out a pair in 7 innings to pick up his first win of the season.  Pierce (3x3) homered, doubled and drove in 3 runs.  Mierow (2x4, double) also drove in 3 runs.  Cannon finished the day with 6 runs driven in as he added 3 in game two.  Power (2x3) drove in a pair and Kuhlman (1), Gonzalez (2x4, RBI) and Gregory (1) each had RBI.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 05, 2014, 11:23:38 AM
Didn't realize D-III softball went to a new format this year:

http://i2.turner.ncaa.com/dr/ncaa/ncaa7/release/sites/default/files/external/gametool/brackets/2014d3softballregionals.pdf

16 double-elimination regionals, and then 8 best-of-three super regionals to reach an 8-team World Series. I like it! Maybe for baseball too, someday?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 05, 2014, 04:19:13 PM
WARHAWKS: 3
Concordia-Wi.: 0

The WARHAWKS scored all three runs in the sixth inning.  Consecutive singles by Nic Kuhlmann, Dylan Friend and Mikole Pierce started the inning.  A throwing error on Pierce's single allowed Kuhlmann to score and back to back sac flies by Michael Gonzalez and Casey Power each drove in runs.  Scott Plaza threw the first four innings allowing a single hit and striking out 5.  Donnie Manke pitched the next three innings allowing 2 hits and striking out a pair to pick up his first win of the season.  Mike Nompleggi pitched one inning giving up a hit.  John Olejniczak faced two batters walking one and Austin Finn finished the final inning striking out a batter and picking up a save. 

Originally scheduled as a doubleheader only one game was played by mutual agreement of the two teams. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 05, 2014, 08:23:14 PM
Can a third place team from Wiac get regional berth?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 06, 2014, 12:08:59 PM
Yes, if they win the automatic bid.  But from what I can find online it hasn't happened for at least the past decade.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 07, 2014, 02:14:57 PM
Officially, UW-Superior leaves the WIAC for the UMAC in 2015-16. Except for ice hockey.

http://www.wiacsports.com/news/2014/5/7/GEN_0507142824.aspx
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on May 08, 2014, 07:47:52 AM
Can anyone shed light on the roster limitations for Regionals? It appears to be a max of 25, but the existing roster remains for the WIAC tournament . . . is that correct?

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2014, 11:02:25 AM
Yes, that is correct.  WIAC rules apply to rosters for the conference tournament which limit them to 30.  NCAA rules apply to the postseason tournament which limit rosters to 25.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2014, 11:10:19 AM
Quote from: Just Bill on May 07, 2014, 02:14:57 PM
Officially, UW-Superior leaves the WIAC for the UMAC in 2015-16. Except for ice hockey.

http://www.wiacsports.com/news/2014/5/7/GEN_0507142824.aspx

Let them find some other league to play hockey in.  Neither our men's or women's league has enough teams to earn an automatic bid so their leaving wouldn't impact either.  It doesn't seem right that they should be able to pick and chose which sports they want to be a league member of.  Because of the relative lack of hockey programs in the state they'd probably end up scheduling teams from our league to fill out their schedule anyway.  So let them function as an independent or find another league to join. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 09, 2014, 12:13:51 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2014, 11:10:19 AM
Quote from: Just Bill on May 07, 2014, 02:14:57 PM
Officially, UW-Superior leaves the WIAC for the UMAC in 2015-16. Except for ice hockey.

http://www.wiacsports.com/news/2014/5/7/GEN_0507142824.aspx

Let them find some other league to play hockey in.  Neither our men's or women's league has enough teams to earn an automatic bid so their leaving wouldn't impact either.  It doesn't seem right that they should be able to pick and chose which sports they want to be a league member of.  Because of the relative lack of hockey programs in the state they'd probably end up scheduling teams from our league to fill out their schedule anyway.  So let them function as an independent or find another league to join.

Your issue is with the conference then, not UW-Superior. They asked if they can stay for hockey and the WIAC said yes. They could have said no and made them survive as an independent if they wanted to. With WIAC hockey just through one year as it's own stand alone league it's not surprising that the WIAC wanted the stability of a quality UWS team.

Just want to be sure your criticism is directed to the right place.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MasterJedi on May 09, 2014, 06:24:37 PM
How the hell did UWW win that game? I guess I'm the horrible fan that turned the live stats off in the 9th thinking they whiffed in that game.  :-[
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 09, 2014, 10:03:51 PM
Best offense Wiac has seen since Jorgensen brothers at oshkosh
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2014, 10:17:38 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 09, 2014, 10:03:51 PM
Best offense Wiac has seen since Jorgensen brothers at oshkosh
You do realize the Jorgensen brothers careers never overlapped don't you?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 09, 2014, 10:19:45 PM
Yes by no means am I saying whitewater is better than the Oshkosh 80s teams but they appear unstoppable.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 09, 2014, 10:22:23 PM
Is point getting into regionals if lacrosse gets automatic bid?  Whitewater is obviously a lock regardless.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2014, 10:26:49 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 09, 2014, 10:19:45 PM
Yes by no means am I saying whitewater is better than the Oshkosh 80s teams but they appear unstoppable.
Looks like LaCrosse is having some success slowing down the unstoppable offense tonight...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brian R. Carroll on May 09, 2014, 11:11:56 PM
Good job, Eagles. Don't let up.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: GBMAN on May 11, 2014, 12:51:25 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 10, 2014, 11:17:58 PM
What a sixth inning in the 2nd title game to say the least whitewater puts up an 11 spot that is unreal especially against a quality opponent.  Congrats to lacrosse on playing some outstanding ball I'm rooting for three Wiac teams but am assuming only war hawks get in this year.

I'm assuming Point does too. Nor sure on LAX
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 11, 2014, 01:50:23 AM
Did some numbers here.

SP is 7-6 vs. regionally ranked (all regions), UWL is 4-12 (ouch).
SP has beaten Rowan and Southern Maine, which will likely be top 2 seeds in their regions, and is 1-4 against UWW.
UWL is 1-5 vs. UWW and has no other what I would call high-high wins (they played Cal Lu, UST and Buena Vista, but lost).

UWL was 18-9, UWSP 15-10 against common opponents. Somewhat amazingly, there were none outside the WIAC.

Head to head is 3-2, UWSP; nearly a push. SOS is UWSP 3, UWL 5; nearly a push there.

UWL's regionally ranked record is *really* hard to get away from, even when you consider how many of those teams are top 2 seeds. Aside from UWW, UWSP's only losses to regionally ranked are to La Crosse, and they've got more wins than losses against them.

Using the primary criteria, it comes down to whether you value common opponents or performance against regionally ranked. I think the difference in the latter is big enough that it'll be the determining factor. Beating Rowan and USM vs. losing to UST, Buena and Cal Lu is pretty much what it comes down to.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on May 11, 2014, 10:14:20 AM
Quote from: Spence on May 11, 2014, 01:50:23 AM
Did some numbers here.

SP is 7-6 vs. regionally ranked (all regions), UWL is 4-12 (ouch).
SP has beaten Rowan and Southern Maine, which will likely be top 2 seeds in their regions, and is 1-4 against UWW.
UWL is 1-5 vs. UWW and has no other what I would call high-high wins (they played Cal Lu, UST and Buena Vista, but lost).

UWL was 18-9, UWSP 15-10 against common opponents. Somewhat amazingly, there were none outside the WIAC.

Head to head is 3-2, UWSP; nearly a push. SOS is UWSP 3, UWL 5; nearly a push there.

UWL's regionally ranked record is *really* hard to get away from, even when you consider how many of those teams are top 2 seeds. Aside from UWW, UWSP's only losses to regionally ranked are to La Crosse, and they've got more wins than losses against them.

Using the primary criteria, it comes down to whether you value common opponents or performance against regionally ranked. I think the difference in the latter is big enough that it'll be the determining factor. Beating Rowan and USM vs. losing to UST, Buena and Cal Lu is pretty much what it comes down to.

Well done Spence.  If it is that close, who is to say that both teams won't be in? 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 11, 2014, 11:37:22 AM
Quote from: Just Bill on May 09, 2014, 12:13:51 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2014, 11:10:19 AM
Quote from: Just Bill on May 07, 2014, 02:14:57 PM
Officially, UW-Superior leaves the WIAC for the UMAC in 2015-16. Except for ice hockey.

http://www.wiacsports.com/news/2014/5/7/GEN_0507142824.aspx

Let them find some other league to play hockey in.  Neither our men's or women's league has enough teams to earn an automatic bid so their leaving wouldn't impact either.  It doesn't seem right that they should be able to pick and chose which sports they want to be a league member of.  Because of the relative lack of hockey programs in the state they'd probably end up scheduling teams from our league to fill out their schedule anyway.  So let them function as an independent or find another league to join.

Your issue is with the conference then, not UW-Superior. They asked if they can stay for hockey and the WIAC said yes. They could have said no and made them survive as an independent if they wanted to. With WIAC hockey just through one year as it's own stand alone league it's not surprising that the WIAC wanted the stability of a quality UWS team.

Just want to be sure your criticism is directed to the right place.

I'm not sure what I said that led you believe my "criticism" was directed towards Superior and not the conference, JB.  I was aware that the decision whether they remained hockey members ultimately was that of the conference.  Honestly I didn't intend it to be critical though I can see how it could be seen in that light. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 11, 2014, 11:45:05 AM
Quote from: biggio34 on May 11, 2014, 10:14:20 AM
Quote from: Spence on May 11, 2014, 01:50:23 AM
Did some numbers here.

SP is 7-6 vs. regionally ranked (all regions), UWL is 4-12 (ouch).
SP has beaten Rowan and Southern Maine, which will likely be top 2 seeds in their regions, and is 1-4 against UWW.
UWL is 1-5 vs. UWW and has no other what I would call high-high wins (they played Cal Lu, UST and Buena Vista, but lost).

UWL was 18-9, UWSP 15-10 against common opponents. Somewhat amazingly, there were none outside the WIAC.

Head to head is 3-2, UWSP; nearly a push. SOS is UWSP 3, UWL 5; nearly a push there.

UWL's regionally ranked record is *really* hard to get away from, even when you consider how many of those teams are top 2 seeds. Aside from UWW, UWSP's only losses to regionally ranked are to La Crosse, and they've got more wins than losses against them.

Using the primary criteria, it comes down to whether you value common opponents or performance against regionally ranked. I think the difference in the latter is big enough that it'll be the determining factor. Beating Rowan and USM vs. losing to UST, Buena and Cal Lu is pretty much what it comes down to.

Well done Spence.  If it is that close, who is to say that both teams won't be in? 

Following the loss Bloom was confident that the Pointers would get a bid regardless of what happened between us and the Eagles.  Evidently he feels that their strength of schedule is strong enough to get them in. 

Saturday's three wins were one of the most clutch performances that I've ever witnessed from a WARHAWKS baseball team.  I have to admit going into the day I didn't think it was possible given the status of the pitching staff.  Saturday's effort was so much different than Friday's that you could hardly recognize that it was the same team. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 11, 2014, 12:11:28 PM
I think it's more likely than not that Stevens Point gets in, but I sure wouldn't be "confident" about it. They're likely to be in the last 3-4 teams selected if they do get in.

As far as the "if it's that close" question, picking 8 teams to go out of the last 20 or so is basically splitting hairs. One result here, one result there making the difference. All the teams on my bubble except George Fox and Chapman have 4 wins over regionally ranked or more.

EDIT: Actually I found a couple more that have 3 wins over regionally ranked. But still, most of them have 4 or more.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on May 11, 2014, 05:15:19 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 11, 2014, 02:25:13 PM
There's not an easy out whatsoever in whitewaters lineup they can afford a poor pitching performance at any time and still win.  They seem to rock everybody the harder u throw the harder they hit u.

While UW-W obviously has an excellent line-up, it seems to me the comment about being able to "afford a poor pitching performance at any time and still win" is only partially true. Their offense is good enough to win high scoring games. However, giving up 12 and 14 runs in two of the 5 conference tournament games is not acceptable.  I'm pretty sure that a team that gives up 26 runs in one day (two games) understands they need MUCH better and more consistent pitching and defense if they are going to meet their ultimate goal this season.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 11, 2014, 05:59:35 PM
If we play like we did Friday the odds of lasting very long in the regional are not good.  When you get to that level you aren't going to win very often giving up 22 hits and 14 runs or playing like we did against LaCrosse on Friday night.  It's silly to think otherwise.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on May 11, 2014, 08:17:24 PM
Badger... Is haen for uww hurt?  I noticed in the box scores he hasn't played the last few weeks.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 11, 2014, 09:37:23 PM
Quote from: biggio34 on May 11, 2014, 08:17:24 PM
Badger... Is haen for uww hurt?  I noticed in the box scores he hasn't played the last few weeks.
Talk to Just Bill....   ;D  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on May 11, 2014, 10:05:32 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 11, 2014, 09:37:23 PM
Quote from: biggio34 on May 11, 2014, 08:17:24 PM
Badger... Is haen for uww hurt?  I noticed in the box scores he hasn't played the last few weeks.
Talk to Just Bill....   ;D  ;)  ;D

It doesn't really have anything to do with that, does it?  Seems like the worse thing that could come from that situation that the kid would lose a year of eligibility.  But why would that take him out of the lineup now?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 11, 2014, 11:12:08 PM
Quote from: biggio34 on May 11, 2014, 10:05:32 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 11, 2014, 09:37:23 PM
Quote from: biggio34 on May 11, 2014, 08:17:24 PM
Badger... Is haen for uww hurt?  I noticed in the box scores he hasn't played the last few weeks.
Talk to Just Bill....   ;D  ;)  ;D

It doesn't really have anything to do with that, does it?  Seems like the worse thing that could come from that situation that the kid would lose a year of eligibility.  But why would that take him out of the lineup now?
I was just joking...  Just thought it was ironic that kid has been out of line-up since that post was made.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: GBMAN on May 11, 2014, 11:19:46 PM
Midwest Regional
1. UW-Whitewater
2. St. Thomas
3. Concordia-Chicago
4. UW-Stevens Point
5. St. Scholastica
6. Thomas More

Projected Midwest Regional
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 12, 2014, 02:01:48 AM
Bracket is out Wiac gets 3 teams.  Whitewater didn't need any help and got it getting the easiest bracket by far IMO.  St Thomas gets sent to Illinois and point to linfield.  Reminds me of year point and linfield were sent to Illinois in 2008 I believe.  Nice to see that the NCAA finally understands people want to see the best in appleton and broke top ranked teams up.  Anyone else shocked george fox didn't get in?  They beat linfield twice and linfield is rock solid. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 12, 2014, 10:31:35 AM
Just to put the matter to rest despite JB's misgivings there were no violations committed in the Haen situation.  The matter has been reviewed by the conference commissioner's office and it's over and done with. I can see how one might assume that a violation occurred based on how the story was written but none were. 

Personally I like our bracket.  Six team regionals are not as hard on pitching staffs and we caught a break having St Thomas shipped elsewhere.  I don't remember a Michigan team having played in our region before so that's different too.  The NCAA will have to fly four teams to Linfield's regional.  Did someone die and leave them in their will? 

This would be the first time the WIAC has three teams playing since the year Oshkosh hosted.  If I remember correctly that regional had us, Point and the Titans playing in it.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: NWBaseballFan10 on May 12, 2014, 11:47:55 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 12, 2014, 02:01:48 AM
Nice to see that the NCAA finally understands people want to see the best in appleton and broke top ranked teams up.  Anyone else shocked george fox didn't get in?  They beat linfield twice and linfield is rock solid.

I agree with these statements. For the second straight year, Fox will be watching the Regional while sitting at home (or they can take that quick 25 minute drive to watch it in person ;D). As a follower of baseball in the northwest, this decision disappoints me, but I agree with you that it is nice to see the NCAA giving the Pool C's to the best teams. I really thought the West would have at least 5 teams this year with Fox being the only at-large, but yet again my predictions were wrong (so was everyone else's it appears).

So be it though, it will be fun to see UWSP again and see how other teams in the West stack up against them. A rematch between them and Linfield appears inevitable as well. Looking forward to it all! Safe travels to all of you making the trip out west to Oregon. Get ready for some good quality baseball :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfan_2001 on May 12, 2014, 12:55:17 PM
so...anyone want to share anything about UWSP.  I know, that the teams shipped in two years ago, Coe put up a great fight and lost two close games to Trinity.  Other than the fact that UWSP went to the World Series last year, I know little about them.  They seem to have some guys who can swing it, and with the condensed schedule, they have some dept on the mound. 

Curious as to why they didn't throw Watson game one of their tourney, as he has better Stats on paper than Seidl. 

Any insight on to this?

Good luck in the west (just hope not too much good luck as I will be watching my Tigers on the Webcast)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 12, 2014, 01:30:41 PM
Seidl shut out LaCrosse on a 5 hitter when the two teams met during the regular season.  Though Watson also beat them in a relief appearance.  Perhaps Bloom felt comfortable using either one. 

I'll leave the sharing to Shine.     
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfan_2001 on May 12, 2014, 01:55:35 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 12, 2014, 01:30:41 PM
Seidl shut out LaCrosse on a 5 hitter when the two teams met during the regular season.  Though Watson also beat them in a relief appearance.  Perhaps Bloom felt comfortable using either one. 

I'll leave the sharing to Shine.     
a shut out is always a good reason to throw your guy.  Thanks for that. +1
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfan_2001 on May 13, 2014, 12:10:17 AM
Thanks for that. Looking forward to a good game on Wesnesday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: d32kidsplayen on May 13, 2014, 02:03:41 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 12, 2014, 11:05:58 PM
What the hell one more rant but in all reality being as serious as I can be.  It's been a long roller coaster ride of a season as a pointer fan with a ton of nights of no sleep trying to figure out how this team has underachieved for the most part.  The biggest issue not to be over critical is the catcher position.  Last year point had Ryan Schilter who was virtually impossible to steal on which a program such as point or whitewater should be able to recruit more often than not.  I give credit to Harry steldt it's not that he's horrible by any means he just has that ball or two get by him every game it seems.  I am not sure if the coaching staff were confident in the catchers they had or just couldn't land someone a little more skilled.  They have tried four different catchers this year and two are freshman.  That being said they have had more success throwing guys out than I thought however it seems like teams are advancing bases way too easily at times.  Another noticeable area of concern is poor base running but I think a lot of it is based on the team being over aggressive when facing good pitching.  Point has struggled badly with good pitchers in the Wiac like plaza and cejka but I'm guessing linfield and a few other teams in that regional will have even better.  On a positive note point basically has three number one caliber starters who can beat any lineup when on and their d comes to play.  Jp feyerison was the Wiac pitcher of year last year but has been up and down this year.  I had heard there was potential for him to go in top ten rounds prior to the season.  He has an above average slider but this wisconsin spring weather certainly affected his ability to use it.  I believe he's consistently high 80s and tops at 91.  Cam seidl was the Wiac pitcher of year two years ago and had tommy john surgery last year.  He's pitched very well for the most part and did his part the other day in loss to lacrosse.  If I had to guess he'll get the ball game one he seems unfazed and is basically a bulldog.  My personal favorite pitcher is Luke Watson he's the best statistically and has electric stuff.  I would still roll the dice and go cam Jp and Luke given the quality of competition point will be facing.  Point has a pretty solid bullpen in prebelski and flood although point has used flood as a starter as of late.  Point only has one lefty pitcher in wendorf and he's capable when hitting the strike zone.  Points staff has shown early in the year their capable of beating good competition but it's been a while since they've beaten anyone good.  As for points lineup they are more than capable but struggle mightily with solid pitchers.  They most recently were dominated by plaza from whitewater and cejka from lacrosse.  No way I'm giving in to mccugh with a fastball for any reason.  They have some real solid players in Kranz mccugh and coady although I feel coady had a down year with the bat.  They have an experienced outfield with Barnes gregorich and coady.  Finally I feel this team is nowhere near where they were last year.  In dan Douglas Ryan Schilter and Sean Gerber they lost three guys that could be argued are to 5 all time at their respective positions at point.  The pitching staff with seidl healthy is better but there have been a lot of walks hit batters and wild pitches.

Really, Shine?   Never knew you were a double agent.
All this time I thought you were a Pointer fan, pretty disappointing how you rolled over on them upon request.
I bet Coach Bloom would be really happy with your sharing your "wealth of knowledge" here.
Sure hope I can "assist" you like you did your "beloved" Pointers sometime in the near future...

The reality of the whole thing is this Pointer team rolled over some really good, and ranked, opponents early this season, and when the bats "wake up" they can beat any D3 opponent out there-  nuf said...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 13, 2014, 02:28:54 PM
Key for me is what Feyereisen and Seidl are going to be...the pitchers they were supposed to be or the ones they have been. I know that WIAC games tend to be a bit higher scoring anyway and the hitters are usually quite good, but one really would have expected better from them.

I had a really hard time knowing what to do with them in my bracket (which is not yet complete). Feyereisen has a good BA against, and obviously so does Watson. Seidl doesn't but strikes guys out.

The other side is Speer has a good ERA, but some of his other numbers aren't on the level of Lucero/Klimesh, etc. And with their SOS, it's hard to translate against easily the most battled tested team Trinity has faced this year.

Should be interesting. The loser most likely gets Linfield. So...you'd really like to win the first one haha.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 13, 2014, 04:37:30 PM
All Conference team named:

http://host.madison.com/sports/college/state-and-regional/all-wiac-baseball-kohlwey-pierce-watson-earn-player-of-the/article_1177e972-da4c-11e3-a223-001a4bcf887a.html
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 13, 2014, 04:39:09 PM
When's the last time Oshkosh didn't have a single player make 1st Team All Conference?   

Ouch!!!!  :-[
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 13, 2014, 05:46:02 PM
Quote from: d32kidsplayen on May 13, 2014, 02:03:41 PM
Really, Shine?   Never knew you were a double agent.
All this time I thought you were a Pointer fan, pretty disappointing how you rolled over on them upon request.
I bet Coach Bloom would be really happy with your sharing your "wealth of knowledge" here.
Sure hope I can "assist" you like you did your "beloved" Pointers sometime in the near future...

The reality of the whole thing is this Pointer team rolled over some really good, and ranked, opponents early this season, and when the bats "wake up" they can beat any D3 opponent out there-  nuf said...
I have been Shine's biggest critic at times on here, but if you actually think he provided any information that other teams didn't already have you are nuts... 

As far as the "really good and ranked opponents" Point beat early in the season, how many finished the season ranked?  That is more telling about how good a team actually is, and not a preseason ranking.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: d32kidsplayen on May 13, 2014, 06:47:19 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 13, 2014, 05:46:02 PM
Quote from: d32kidsplayen on May 13, 2014, 02:03:41 PM
Really, Shine?   Never knew you were a double agent.
All this time I thought you were a Pointer fan, pretty disappointing how you rolled over on them upon request.
I bet Coach Bloom would be really happy with your sharing your "wealth of knowledge" here.
Sure hope I can "assist" you like you did your "beloved" Pointers sometime in the near future...

The reality of the whole thing is this Pointer team rolled over some really good, and ranked, opponents early this season, and when the bats "wake up" they can beat any D3 opponent out there-  nuf said...
I have been Shine's biggest critic at times on here, but if you actually think he provided any information that other teams didn't already have you are nuts... 

As far as the "really good and ranked opponents" Point beat early in the season, how many finished the season ranked?  That is more telling about how good a team actually is, and not a preseason ranking.

Heck no, I don't think that there is any info there that he couldn't have found otherwise, I guess I am just confounded with how quickly and completely Shine rolled over and "gave it up". Why not make the TigerFan work for it???

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 13, 2014, 07:28:15 PM
Quote from: d32kidsplayen on May 13, 2014, 06:47:19 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 13, 2014, 05:46:02 PM
Quote from: d32kidsplayen on May 13, 2014, 02:03:41 PM
Really, Shine?   Never knew you were a double agent.
All this time I thought you were a Pointer fan, pretty disappointing how you rolled over on them upon request.
I bet Coach Bloom would be really happy with your sharing your "wealth of knowledge" here.
Sure hope I can "assist" you like you did your "beloved" Pointers sometime in the near future...

The reality of the whole thing is this Pointer team rolled over some really good, and ranked, opponents early this season, and when the bats "wake up" they can beat any D3 opponent out there-  nuf said...
I have been Shine's biggest critic at times on here, but if you actually think he provided any information that other teams didn't already have you are nuts... 

As far as the "really good and ranked opponents" Point beat early in the season, how many finished the season ranked?  That is more telling about how good a team actually is, and not a preseason ranking.

Heck no, I don't think that there is any info there that he couldn't have found otherwise, I guess I am just confounded with how quickly and completely Shine rolled over and "gave it up". Why not make the TigerFan work for it???
As for my second comment?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 13, 2014, 08:15:45 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 13, 2014, 07:28:15 PM
Quote from: d32kidsplayen on May 13, 2014, 06:47:19 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 13, 2014, 05:46:02 PM
Quote from: d32kidsplayen on May 13, 2014, 02:03:41 PM
Really, Shine?   Never knew you were a double agent.
All this time I thought you were a Pointer fan, pretty disappointing how you rolled over on them upon request.
I bet Coach Bloom would be really happy with your sharing your "wealth of knowledge" here.
Sure hope I can "assist" you like you did your "beloved" Pointers sometime in the near future...

The reality of the whole thing is this Pointer team rolled over some really good, and ranked, opponents early this season, and when the bats "wake up" they can beat any D3 opponent out there-  nuf said...
I have been Shine's biggest critic at times on here, but if you actually think he provided any information that other teams didn't already have you are nuts... 

As far as the "really good and ranked opponents" Point beat early in the season, how many finished the season ranked?  That is more telling about how good a team actually is, and not a preseason ranking.

Heck no, I don't think that there is any info there that he couldn't have found otherwise, I guess I am just confounded with how quickly and completely Shine rolled over and "gave it up". Why not make the TigerFan work for it???
As for my second comment?


Point's out of conference:

Benedictine :  unranked, unranked
Wheaton (Mass): 19th preseason, unranked week 12
Anderson: unranked, unranked
William Paterson: unranked, unranked
Rowan: 22nd preseason, 9th week 12, post season qualifier
Southern Maine: 2nd preseason, 12th week 12, post season qualifier
Denison: unranked, unranked
Washington & Jefferson: 25th preseason, unranked week 12
Ripon: unranked, unranked
St. Norbert: unranked, unranked, post season qualifier

Ok, I had some time to kill.  But I only looked at the preseason d3baseball.com top 25 and the final regular season poll.  In summary of the 4 top 25 ranked (including those receiving votes) teams Point played in the preseason 2 were ranked or receiving votes in the week 12 poll and 3 of their out of conference opponents qualified for the post season.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 13, 2014, 08:16:56 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 13, 2014, 04:39:09 PM
When's the last time Oshkosh didn't have a single player make 1st Team All Conference?   

Ouch!!!!  :-[

I'm going to wager, never. And I'm think that's pretty safe bet.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 13, 2014, 10:43:57 PM
As much as I would love to see points bats all of a sudden come to life I would say it's highly unlikely vs their first opponent or linfield.  Whoever loses between uwsp and trinity will more than likely face linfield game 2 hence someone is more than likely 2 and out barring a miracle.  If point can somehow win first two games I actually think they could possibly beat linfield in winners bracket assuming linfield throws their top 2 guys the first two games.  Also max Frederick is more than capable of putting together a dominant outing and could be a huge factor like last year.  I'm hoping the warm weather benefits points staff from what I was told they were dominant in Florida so hopefully it can happen in Oregon. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 13, 2014, 10:50:55 PM
I believe Oshkosh was pretty bad in 2002 or 03 but had mancuso Stanley and Ben Huffman.  Were those guys first team that would be my only guess mancuso had to have been I believe he was national player of year one year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 13, 2014, 11:01:50 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 13, 2014, 10:50:55 PM
I believe Oshkosh was pretty bad in 2002 or 03 but had mancuso Stanley and Ben Huffman.  Were those guys first team that would be my only guess mancuso had to have been I believe he was national player of year one year.
2002 was the year they were bad (first losing season since 1967) but Ben Stanley was still a 1st Team All WIAC selection.

Mancuso was POY in 2003 when UWO was a Regional Champion and made the World Series.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 13, 2014, 11:15:23 PM
Is the answer never I'm assuming?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 13, 2014, 11:38:09 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 13, 2014, 11:15:23 PM
Is the answer never I'm assuming?
Could only find records back as far as 1967, but from 1967-2013, Oshkosh had at least one player be a 1st Team All Conference selection each and every year in that time period.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 13, 2014, 11:48:12 PM
That is an amazing stretch to say the least.  I wonder when last time point didn't have someone on first team.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 14, 2014, 03:40:04 PM
UWW beats St. Norbert 6-2 in the regional opener.

http://www.uwwsports.com/documents/2014/5/14/ncaa1.htm?id=2334
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 14, 2014, 10:37:57 PM
Here we go again with pointer mistakes routine grounder to end inning can't make the play next play balk called and points down 1 to 0.  It seems to happen every game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 14, 2014, 10:58:56 PM
Finally point gets a break this year tie game on error by 2b.  Speer struggles from the stretch.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: GBMAN on May 14, 2014, 11:00:33 PM
2-1 Point now t5
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 14, 2014, 11:20:47 PM
2 2 now point strands Spetz at third.   The video is actually not bad to watch.  How hard did coady smoke that ball to right it looked and sounded amazing but the guy made a hell of a grab.  This is a must win for both teams obviously u don't want linfield with their number 2 guy on the mound.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 14, 2014, 11:29:05 PM
Huge strikeout by seidl after Barnes dropped fly ball in left.  Just when I was going to say god doesn't want point winning this game.  On a side note steldt is doing very well behind the plate it appears which will only help points chances.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 14, 2014, 11:46:14 PM
Steldt has to get that bunt down that was a sure run pissed away.  Also why was hanke not coming home from third when catcher threw to second I think he could've easily scored standing. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 14, 2014, 11:51:13 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 14, 2014, 11:46:14 PM
Steldt has to get that bunt down that was a sure run pissed away.  Also why was hanke not coming home from third when catcher threw to second I think he could've easily scored standing.
Catcher pump fakes or Trinity cuts off throw and Hanke is dead at the plate.  You don't take bat out of the top of the order hands.

Nice inning by JP!!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 15, 2014, 12:09:42 AM
I hate the pinch running for the catcher late in a low scoring game like tonight...  Hope it doesn't cost them!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 15, 2014, 12:18:34 AM
All in all, not a bad day for the WIAC baseball teams.... 

Whitewater wins as they were expected to, Point knocks off a solid #8 Trinity team, and La Crosse loses a close on to #4 Concordia Chicago.

Time for some sleep so I can follow along again tomorrow!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 15, 2014, 12:19:40 AM
That's one of points biggest wins I can recall now u have Watson tomorrow and hopefully Jp for at least 5 the following.  Point is fortunate to get the w with the amount of darps they had but hey I'll enjoy this one.  I did not see 3 runs coming against their pitcher I figured if point won it would be 1 to 0 or 2 to 1
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on May 15, 2014, 09:27:54 PM
Impressive win for the Warhawks over UW-L today. Offensively, the first three innings was a clinic on frozen rope line drives by UW-W.  I like the way Plaza pitched. He gave up some hits, but didn't walk anyone in 6 innings of work after being staked to a 6-0 lead after 1 1/2 innings and 10-2 after 3 innings. I thought both centerfielders did a real nice job defensively.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 15, 2014, 09:37:17 PM
I've said it many times been a long time since there's been a lineup that stacked in the Wiac.  Full of d1 caliber guys.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 15, 2014, 10:44:37 PM
Wtf was coady doing on that steal attempt?  Nothing like pissing away a scoring opportunity.  This pitcher for cal doesn't look very good point better get something going quick before they pull him.  Watsons getting hit harder than usual too so these darps have to stop.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 16, 2014, 12:06:22 AM
Spetz is coming up huge defensively for point.  Jp is on for the save is point going with Fredrick tomorrow if they win?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 16, 2014, 12:27:39 AM
So who gets start for Pointers against Linfield Friday? 

With JP being used in relief the first two games, I have to think it will probably be Stroik.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 16, 2014, 12:31:18 AM
Pretty good game all around but the SS from UWSP was lights out.  Both teams had plenty of chances but UWSP took advantage.  Good luck against Linfield tomorrow.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 16, 2014, 07:21:43 AM
I think max Fredrick given what's he's done in the past in big games.  He has shown an ability to be dominant given it's only been a few times.  As much as I like that point went all in to win the first two games I think it could backfire now not being able to throw Jp the entire game against such a great team.  Can messenger be a pointer for a few weeks man would point be sitting good?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 16, 2014, 03:00:12 PM
6-2 Hawks going into the 9th. UWW's clutch hitting (2-out RBIs) have been huge this game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 16, 2014, 03:01:01 PM
Neither guess is correct, as Flood gets the starting nod for the pointers today....

Whitewater with a 6-2 lead heading to the 9th inning.  They are just three outs away from playing for a Regional Championship on Saturday and a berth in the 2014 College World Series.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 16, 2014, 03:11:09 PM
After making it interesting in the 9th (loading the bases), Hawks win 6-2!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 16, 2014, 03:11:35 PM
Whitewater wins 6-2.  Adrian loaded the bases with two outs and the top of the order up, but Austin Jones was able to induce a line out to CF to end it.

The Warhawks await the survivor of a pair of elimination games between St. Norbert, Concordia-Chicago, and Adrian

Whoever escapes that group will need to beat the Warhawks twice, while Whitewater will need just a single win.

Point down early 1-0 as Linfield hits a solo HR in the Top of the 1st inning....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 16, 2014, 05:12:27 PM
So McHugh hits what should have been a HR in the Bottom of the 8th inning to tie the game 3-3.  However on an appeal, McHugh is said to have missed first base so the run is taken off the board.

Head to the 9th inning, Linfield leads 3-2....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: wildcat11 on May 16, 2014, 05:14:19 PM
Ouch...gotta touch 'em all.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 16, 2014, 05:14:33 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 16, 2014, 05:12:27 PM
So McHugh hits what should have been a HR in the Bottom of the 8th inning to tie the game 3-3.  However on an appeal, McHugh is said to have missed first base so the run is taken off the board.

Head to the 9th inning, Linfield leads 3-2....
Oh my.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 16, 2014, 05:21:08 PM
It's happened many times in baseball, including in the majors. It's rare but it's not unheard of.

LOL at you and your phone. Brilliant.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 16, 2014, 05:21:29 PM
Im heading to the 4th floor ****in bush league does anyone else think having an ex mlb coach got that call I would not be comfortable winning that way
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 16, 2014, 05:24:23 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on May 16, 2014, 05:21:08 PM
It's happened many times in baseball, including in the majors. It's rare but it's not unheard of.

LOL at you and your phone. Brilliant.
I miss something?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 16, 2014, 05:25:36 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 16, 2014, 05:24:23 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on May 16, 2014, 05:21:08 PM
It's happened many times in baseball, including in the majors. It's rare but it's not unheard of.

LOL at you and your phone. Brilliant.
I miss something?

He deleted a post where he indicated that he smashed his phone, has no insurance and then asked if this has ever happened before. It was classic ShineTime.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 16, 2014, 05:26:38 PM
It's happened, but I still think it's horsecrap. Just do like cricket and if you hit it over the fence, you get the runs.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 16, 2014, 05:27:10 PM
A game just cannot end that way the umps a coward
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 16, 2014, 05:28:00 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on May 16, 2014, 05:25:36 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 16, 2014, 05:24:23 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on May 16, 2014, 05:21:08 PM
It's happened many times in baseball, including in the majors. It's rare but it's not unheard of.

LOL at you and your phone. Brilliant.
I miss something?

He deleted a post where he indicated that he smashed his phone, has no insurance and then asked if this has ever happened before. It was classic ShineTime.
Ahhh.....

Tough way to lose for Pointers.  If they could have won this won I liked there chances, with Linfield having three pitchers start something like 40/43 games.  The best chance was to see if you could get to their #4 and #5 and see if they could get job done.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 16, 2014, 05:31:04 PM
Point wouldve had jp tomorrow and im sure watson couldve gone a few no doubt point was robbed of trip to appleton I hated brosious as a yankee and now even more arrogant piece of ****
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 16, 2014, 05:42:57 PM
As coach gibby for eau claire stated fellas u have to hate to lose.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Westside on May 16, 2014, 06:15:11 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 16, 2014, 05:31:04 PM
Point wouldve had jp tomorrow and im sure watson couldve gone a few no doubt point was robbed of trip to appleton I hated brosious as a yankee and now even more arrogant piece of ****

shouldn't you hate the kid for missing the base? Not the coach for appealing... And the bomb would've tied the game, so lets not be overdramatic  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 16, 2014, 06:37:35 PM
I understand that point wouldn't have won for sure but there's no replay in d3 u can't tell me the umpire seen him miss the base with 100 percent certainty.  As an umpire u cannot let that happen.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Whatagame on May 16, 2014, 06:44:01 PM
The announcers on the broadcast noted that they were able to review the play in the booth on their equipment just for their own edification, they said the guy clearly missed the bag.  Any umpire worth his salt checks off on the bag touch on a round-tripper.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: wildcat11 on May 16, 2014, 06:53:50 PM
Quote from: Whatagame on May 16, 2014, 06:44:01 PM
The announcers on the broadcast noted that they were able to review the play in the booth on their equipment just for their own edification, they said the guy clearly missed the bag.  Any umpire worth his salt checks off on the bag touch on a round-tripper.

+1

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Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 16, 2014, 07:02:08 PM
Just like spence posted its like a golfer not signing his card and being disqualified.  To be clear on this I would be equally as pissed if this happened to linfield and I'm being serious.  I'm not confident at this point in time that the best team is going to appleton would've rather seen what happened after that bs call.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 16, 2014, 07:37:49 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 16, 2014, 06:37:35 PM
As an umpire u cannot let that happen.

You also can't miss that call if you are an umpire.  I don't have a dog in this fight but thats a rough way to end an inning.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 16, 2014, 07:44:33 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 16, 2014, 07:02:08 PM
Just like spence posted its like a golfer not signing his card and being disqualified.  To be clear on this I would be equally as pissed if this happened to linfield and I'm being serious.  I'm not confident at this point in time that the best team is going to appleton would've rather seen what happened after that bs call.
Still a lot of games to be played, but I have a hard time saying the defending National Champions who return their entire pitching staff wouldn't be considered the "best team" if they happen to win the Regional.

Wasn't it just last week Shine you were questioning whether Point would make the Regionals, and now you are wondering if they are the best team in their regional?  Make up your mind man!!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 16, 2014, 09:04:18 PM
I still doubt whether they should've got an at large but their finally playing good ball.  I never said they weren't capable of making a run given how good their top 3 pitchers are.  Cam is going to have to go tomorrow if they pull it out tonight
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 16, 2014, 09:15:25 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 16, 2014, 09:04:18 PM
I still doubt whether they should've got an at large but their finally playing good ball.  I never said they weren't capable of making a run given how good their top 3 pitchers are.  Cam is going to have to go tomorrow if they pull it out tonight
I'd say more like their pitching is carrying them....

They have combined for 10 runs and 19 hits in three games.  Wouldn't exactly say the bats have been on fire, but I guess the same could be said for all the teams in the West Regional.  Add in the fact that they have made four errors and had two passed balls, and one could say it's time for the offense and defense to step up if they want to still be playing tomorrow, much less next weekend.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 16, 2014, 09:37:23 PM
They certainly have dodged some bullets too I was impressed with how well stroik pitched they should have followed your thought.  I guess I don't understand the sudden infatuation with flood I loved him as a closer don't understand the switch it's not like stroik and Fredrick aren't good enough.  Fredrick and wendorf have to pitch the games of their life to have any shot.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: NWBaseballFan10 on May 16, 2014, 09:38:20 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 16, 2014, 06:37:35 PM
As an umpire u cannot let that happen.

What? You can't enforce a written rule? It is obviously a real unfortunate break for UWSP, but perhaps the first base coach shouldn't bear hug the guy as he rounds the bag.

That is twice in less than a year I have seen a home run waved off because of a baserunning miscue. Last year, at the World Series, Southern Maine hit a go-ahead bomb in the 13th inning, but the runner never touched home. Fortunately, it didn't come back to haunt the Huskies because the runner on second still scored and the batter simply returned to third.

You Point fans will probably disagree, but props to Linfield and whoever paid attention to the hitter for recognizing the kids' mistake. Most of us were too concerned whether or not it was a fair ball. Savvy move.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 16, 2014, 09:45:49 PM
We all know its one of the many dumb rules in sports I'm just doubting the umpire was indeed really watching.  Just seems like a little home field advantage and the bottom line is its bush league.  Sad ending to a great game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 16, 2014, 09:47:08 PM
Well points obviously taking a huge gamble with wendorf as he's been inconsistent but are trying to save Fredrick and Jp for tomorrow I would have short leash if control becomes an issue
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 16, 2014, 09:50:00 PM
Point facing guy with 18.1 IP on the season including just three starts.  Wendorf with the start for Point, who has 28.2 IP and four starts.

Interested to see which Wendorf shows up...  The one who can be dominant at times, or the one who struggles to throw strikes consistently.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 16, 2014, 09:52:23 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 16, 2014, 09:45:49 PM
We all know its one of the many dumb rules in sports I'm just doubting the umpire was indeed really watching.  Just seems like a little home field advantage and the bottom line is its bush league.  Sad ending to a great game.
Disagree....  There are A LOT of things that happen during any given baseball game that could be considered bush league, but an umpire making a call that seems to have been confirmed by replay isn't one of them.

Just stop Shine....  It's really coming across as sour grapes!!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 16, 2014, 10:23:21 PM
Point misses out on a chance at a BIG inning in the first and has to settle for just a single run....  Four hits would seem to get you more than just one run, but Point makes a pair of outs on the bases. 

Cal-Lu turns a Pointer error into a run so its 1-1 after one inning.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 16, 2014, 10:25:56 PM
Umpires are trained to watch every touch of the base, and no umpire would ring that up if they weren't 100% sure.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 16, 2014, 10:44:35 PM
Blame the umpire for doing exactly what he's suppose to do even though video replay shows he was  correct.  Never mind a player who failed to step on a base in a home run trot.  I really can't fathom how that can happen.  It wasn't like he was in a hurry to round the bases.  How does the first base coach miss it too?  The runner could have returned to first base and touched it before he had touched second but no one, except the umpire, was paying close enough attention. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: KitchenSink on May 16, 2014, 11:24:44 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on May 16, 2014, 10:25:56 PM
Umpires are trained to watch every touch of the base, and no umpire would ring that up if they weren't 100% sure.

Heck, yeah.  Been an umpire for twelve years, and this is a basic procedure on every ball in play. Especially with a four man crew. You watch the touch and any potential obstruction every time.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: wildcat11 on May 17, 2014, 12:24:54 AM
According to the News-Register's (McMinnville paper) twitter feed:

https://twitter.com/NewsRegSports/status/467421751777832960 (https://twitter.com/NewsRegSports/status/467421751777832960)

Linfield coach Scott Brosius said he saw UWSP's Kyle McHugh step over first base and called to Zach Manley for an appeal.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 17, 2014, 12:34:26 AM
Mccugh comes through in clutch and ties game at 6 off all American Roth.  Does point bring Jp in now to put a 0 up in bottom hopefully?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 17, 2014, 12:41:08 AM
Point scores off of All American closer Aaron Roth in the 9th inning to tie the game up 6-6...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 17, 2014, 12:42:36 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 17, 2014, 12:34:26 AM
Mccugh comes through in clutch and ties game at 6 off all American Roth.  Does point bring Jp in now to put a 0 up in bottom hopefully?
If they stick to routine, JP will come in for the 9th...  However Prebelski pitched well and if he isn't tired, I would leave him in.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 17, 2014, 12:44:21 AM
Hanke and Barnes both strike out with runners on Jp in for point. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 17, 2014, 12:47:33 AM
1, 2, 3 inning for JP...  To extra's we go!!!  (Linfield loving that!!!!)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 17, 2014, 12:59:01 AM
Could anyone tell if that was a balk?  Bloom looked pretty pissed and was giving the ump the business.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 17, 2014, 01:10:04 AM
Wow mccughs bat is out of lineup due to pinch runner.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 17, 2014, 01:13:20 AM
Point takes lead and knocks Roth out of game.  They need to get another one here.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 17, 2014, 01:21:59 AM
Is Jp hurt or whys he out?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: wildcat11 on May 17, 2014, 01:25:11 AM
Wow...pitching change backfired....the other UWSP reliever was dealing too.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 17, 2014, 01:26:25 AM
Sometimes I wonder wtf the coaches are thinking.  For one stroik pitched earlier today and second Jp can't pitch tomorrow if they lose tonight.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 17, 2014, 01:27:54 AM
All kinds of things not making sense here.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 17, 2014, 01:34:56 AM
And add another head scratcher there...coming inside on 0-2.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 17, 2014, 01:35:59 AM
Well between what happened in the linfield game and cals third baseman making the play of the year there last inning I kind of figured this was coming.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: wildcat11 on May 17, 2014, 01:37:38 AM
....not so fast.  Let's do it again.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 17, 2014, 01:38:04 AM
Well you could have just ended up playing extras against Linfield and losing, and still been here.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 17, 2014, 09:04:40 AM
Well I'm assuming Fredrick goes game 1 and hopefully the distance for the w.  Game 2 u start Jp hopefully get 3 then Watson for 3 and seidl for 3.  I'm thinking game 1 will be toss up but if point wins I could see them struggling to score against linfields 1
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on May 17, 2014, 07:48:48 PM
Congrats to the Hawks for advancing to the D3 World Series!  Very impressive Regional showing.  The pitching staff stepped up big time.  Defensively, the Hawks played errorless ball in 3 of the 4 games. Offensively, the Hawks were credited with 45 hits in 4 games and some very good at bats in crucial situations.  4-0 in the Regional. They have the look of a team that won't be easy to take out.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 17, 2014, 08:25:21 PM
Congrats to linfield I can say without question their the better team now.  I apologize for the outburst yesterday and am embarrassed to say the least.  I feel for the pointers and wonder if they would've been in a regional without whitewater and linfield if they could've made it.  Congrats to a great group of seniors for point especially Casey Barnes and max Frederick sticking in there all season and staying mentally tough.  Both came up clutch in the end.  In the end point did finish season strong and showed they were more than deserving.  If point can get some arms next year they could make deep run but I'm guessing Jp is all but gone now too.  They'll have a ton of bats that's for sure.  Good luck to whitewater I'm broke as hell and I'm making the trip to root the hawks on I like greatness.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 19, 2014, 09:28:52 AM
2014 D3 Baseball.Com All MidWest Region:

First Team:
Mikole Pierce - UW-WHITEWATER   Player of the Year
Cole Cefalu - UW-LaCrosse
Taylor Kohlway - UW-LaCrosse
Tom Fairbanks - UW-Superior
Kyle McHugh - UW-Stevens Point
Luke Watson - UW-Stevens Point   Pitcher of the Year

Second Team:
Mike Mierow - UW-WHITEWATER
Jared Fon - UW-WHITEWATER
Dylan Friend - UW-WHITEWATER
Scott Plaza - UW-WHITEWATER


Third Team:
Casey Power - UW-WHITEWATER
Bandon Kranz - UW-Stevens Point

Coach of the Year:
John Vodenlich - UW-WHITEWATER
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 20, 2014, 10:40:13 AM
Pat, I'm a little surprised that Mikole Pierce wouldn't be included in the list of players to watch at the World Series.  Aside from being both the conference's co-player of the year and the region's player of the year his numbers (.446 BA, 79 H, 58 RBI, 8 2B, 7 3B, 9 HR, 16-18 SB) are better than many of the others.  I realize you can't include everyone and Dylan Friend is also notable but so is Pierce.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 20, 2014, 12:16:31 PM
I dont believe nick fisher from linfield was a player to watch either.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: GBMAN on May 20, 2014, 05:24:54 PM
Most likely to disappoint: UW-Whitewater (d3 World Series preview)

UW-Whitewater shares with St. Thomas the shortest trip from campus to the World Series and the Warhawks will have plenty of fan support, especially opening with the late game on Friday. Unfortunately, Southern Maine will be their opponent. The Huskies nearly took down Linfield in 2013 without their best pitcher and the 2013 D3baseball.com Player of the Year in a slump.

UW-Whitewater showed some chinks in the armor when they led off the WIAC championship with a dog fight with fourth seed UW-Stout winning 15-14, needing four runs in the ninth to extend the game. If Whitewater can get a good start in the series, it will not be the players and fans in purple who will be disappointed but D3baseball.com for making the wrong prediction.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on May 20, 2014, 09:19:24 PM
Quote from: GBMAN on May 20, 2014, 05:24:54 PM
Most likely to disappoint: UW-Whitewater (d3 World Series preview)

UW-Whitewater shares with St. Thomas the shortest trip from campus to the World Series and the Warhawks will have plenty of fan support, especially opening with the late game on Friday. Unfortunately, Southern Maine will be their opponent. The Huskies nearly took down Linfield in 2013 without their best pitcher and the 2013 D3baseball.com Player of the Year in a slump.

UW-Whitewater showed some chinks in the armor when they led off the WIAC championship with a dog fight with fourth seed UW-Stout winning 15-14, needing four runs in the ninth to extend the game. If Whitewater can get a good start in the series, it will not be the players and fans in purple who will be disappointed but D3baseball.com for making the wrong prediction.

He's gotta pick somebody to disappoint.  The entirety of the article reads to me like Jim is more impressed with Southern Maine than anything else. It sounds like he feels like if the Hawks win that first game, all bets are off. 

Remember, in football, none of the Triple Take guys picked UW-W to survive the quarterfinals, much less win the Stagg Bowl.  That in spite of the fact that they were well informed by very good sources that WIWA was a fact a good two months earlier.  ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: GBMAN on May 20, 2014, 09:33:34 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on May 20, 2014, 09:19:24 PM
Quote from: GBMAN on May 20, 2014, 05:24:54 PM
Most likely to disappoint: UW-Whitewater (d3 World Series preview)

UW-Whitewater shares with St. Thomas the shortest trip from campus to the World Series and the Warhawks will have plenty of fan support, especially opening with the late game on Friday. Unfortunately, Southern Maine will be their opponent. The Huskies nearly took down Linfield in 2013 without their best pitcher and the 2013 D3baseball.com Player of the Year in a slump.

UW-Whitewater showed some chinks in the armor when they led off the WIAC championship with a dog fight with fourth seed UW-Stout winning 15-14, needing four runs in the ninth to extend the game. If Whitewater can get a good start in the series, it will not be the players and fans in purple who will be disappointed but D3baseball.com for making the wrong prediction.

He's gotta pick somebody to disappoint.  The entirety of the article reads to me like Jim is more impressed with Southern Maine than anything else. It sounds like he feels like if the Hawks win that first game, all bets are off. 

Remember, in football, none of the Triple Take guys picked UW-W to survive the quarterfinals, much less win the Stagg Bowl.  That in spite of the fact that they were well informed by very good sources that WIWA was a fact a good two months earlier.  ;D

Lol Bleed. I see where your coming from
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 20, 2014, 09:56:10 PM
I'd be concerned about Whitewater's defense in a close, low-scoring game. I didn't agree with Pierce as POY because shortstop is an important defensive position.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 20, 2014, 10:00:32 PM
What round do you guys think pierce Watson and feyerison will get drafted?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Westside on May 20, 2014, 10:17:14 PM
I've heard all about the Warhawks offense, but what's the story on their pitching? It doesn't look dominant, just good, but I realize they play in a solid league.

Looks like the defense can be shaky at times too.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on May 20, 2014, 10:30:41 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 20, 2014, 10:00:32 PM
What round do you guys think pierce Watson and feyerison will get drafted?

Top D3 pitchers go in the 15-20 rounds and everyone else 35-40.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 20, 2014, 11:19:59 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 20, 2014, 10:00:32 PM
What round do you guys think pierce Watson and feyerison will get drafted?

Can Pierce play a position?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 21, 2014, 10:12:34 AM
Quote from: Spence on May 20, 2014, 09:56:10 PM
I'd be concerned about Whitewater's defense in a close, low-scoring game. I didn't agree with Pierce as POY because shortstop is an important defensive position.

Defense has been a concern of mine during the season though it did improved significantly in the regional when three of the four games were played without an error.  Of the two errors committed in the first Adrian game one was for baserunner interference.  The other a throwing error at 3B so Pierce played an errorless regional.  Statistically we finished second in the WIAC in fielding percentage at .964.  Point led the league with a .968 so we weren't that far behind.  We're 15-6 in games decided by three runs or less (.710). 

As far as the World Series goes our fielding percentage compares favorably with the majority of the field. 

Season fielding percentage:
Cortland State: .976
Linfield: .975
Salisbury: .967
WHITEWATER: .964
St Thomas: .963
Southern Maine: .962
Emory: .960
Baldwin Wallace: .951

If we can continue to play defense the way we did in the regional I think we'll be ok. We really looked  focused and playing with a lot of confidence.  Though one has to admit that is a big IF. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 21, 2014, 11:15:40 AM
One thing to factor is for defense is that Linfield and Whitewater play the majority of their games on TURF... Appleton is not turf so the defensive numbers could be a bit different for those two teams.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on May 21, 2014, 12:45:19 PM
Good point, however I bet Appleton is not your typical "D3 college field". I am sure there are stats somewhere, but how did Linfield do fielding last year?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Westside on May 21, 2014, 01:41:38 PM
Last year in Appleton, Linfield had 7 errors (1 in the outfield) in 5 games. But 4 of the errors were in the first game, so there may have been a little adjustment period.

The same thing happened to Linfield in 2010, when they had 9 errors in 5 games after being one of the top fielding teams in the nation.

I don't think it was the switch from turf to grass, specifically. I recall talking to some players from those teams and it was more the firmness of the dirt, so it played differently from the grass fields they had played on throughout the year.

This year, Linfield played 9 league games on grass fields... and they committed 12 errors.

So make of that what you will.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 21, 2014, 05:26:19 PM
Playing on turf, is .964 really that good?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: mr_b on May 21, 2014, 05:47:09 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 21, 2014, 05:26:19 PM
Playing on turf, is .964 really that good?
I'd hazard a guess that a .960 clip over 40+ games is good, and .970 is excellent.  What would be more informative is the breakdown of field-related errors versus throwing errors.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 21, 2014, 07:33:52 PM
I just know that St. Thomas has had teams on turf that fielded in the .975 neighborhood and their coaches have acknowledged that the turf helps significantly in that.

So if Whitewater played on grass, would they be fielding more like Baldwin-Wallace? That was more the thought.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 21, 2014, 09:16:08 PM
Quote from: mr_b on May 21, 2014, 05:47:09 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 21, 2014, 05:26:19 PM
Playing on turf, is .964 really that good?
I'd hazard a guess that a .960 clip over 40+ games is good, and .970 is excellent.  What would be more informative is the breakdown of field-related errors versus throwing errors.


We have 62 errors on the season.  31 of them are fielding, 29 are throwing and 2 are interference errors.   

Undoubtedly our offense has helped to offset what defensive problems we've had.  I don't think that is impacted that much by playing on turf and we're not really a home run oriented offense so the deeper fences in Appleton shouldn't be a significant factor.  If anything the additional area in the outfield could even benefit us. 


Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 22, 2014, 12:44:40 PM
D3baseball.com All American team released.

First Team:
Taylor Kohlwey - LaCrosse
Kyle McHugh - Stevens Point

Second Team:
Mikole Pierce - WHITEWATER
Cole Cefalu - LaCrosse

Third Team:
Luke Watson - Stevens Point

Honorable Mention:
Tom Fairbanks - Superior
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 22, 2014, 12:49:19 PM
I wish mchugh wouldve been eligible last year for point.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on May 24, 2014, 07:59:06 AM
Several early morning thoughts after watching UW-W cruise to an 8-1 victory over Southern Maine.

*The physical difference between the teams was striking to me. UW-W just looked like bigger and stronger kids up and down the line-up.

*Plaza was outstanding. In complete control during his 7 innings.

*Pierce was a beast. Hit the ball hard all night long.

*While UW-W hit the ball well, they also had some bloopers fall in for them last night.

*UW-W played really good defense. They made some very good plays in both the infield and outfield. Miscues in the last inning did lead to a Southern Maine run, but  by then UW-W had an 8-0 lead.

*The SM right fielder made an incredible catch on Pierce, got the ball in to double up the base runner. Most of the UW-W fans just stood and clapped. What else is there to do on a play like that?  Two runs would have scored and Pierce would have been on third base, but that great play ended the inning. Their second baseman also made a very nice play to save a run.

*Bob Berezowitz made an outstanding catch of a foul pop-up. Then the grandpa came out in him and he gave the ball to a little girl sitting nearby.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 25, 2014, 11:11:42 PM
Looks like whitewater is going to complete the trifecta.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 26, 2014, 12:14:59 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 25, 2014, 11:11:42 PM
Looks like whitewater is going to complete the trifecta.

They'll try at least. I assume they have to sit tight and wait a couple of games for their opponent?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 26, 2014, 12:20:10 AM
The NCAA should have stout drive over to play they have a better shot of beating whitewater than any team in the field.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on May 26, 2014, 12:20:42 AM
Really impressive run by the Hawks. Currently 7-0 in the NCAA playoffs.  There are a lot of positives to point to in their tournament performances.  Beyond the obvious, I think two of the things that have really helped them:

*Over 3 World series games, there have been 7 different innings in which the opponents have scored.  Five times the Hawks have come back to score in their very next at bat.   (I'm not including the "who cares" 9th innings in which they gave up single runs to Southern Maine and St. Thomas because UW-W didn't bat again after those innings).
I think this reflects a determination and a "refuse to lose" attitude.

*Limiting big innings.  In three games, UW-W has not given up 3 runs or more in any inning yet in the World Series.  They have given up 2 runs in an inning just twice in 3 games.  By contrast, the Warhawks have had 2 innings of scoring at least 3 runs in each game.  That's 6 total times the Warhawks have scored at least 3 runs in an inning while not allowing ANY 3 run innings so far in the World Series.

Well done Hawks! Get some rest tomorrow and come back on fire Tuesday. You've earned this opportunity. Go get it! 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 26, 2014, 12:54:32 AM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on May 26, 2014, 12:14:59 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 25, 2014, 11:11:42 PM
Looks like whitewater is going to complete the trifecta.
They'll try at least. I assume they have to sit tight and wait a couple of games for their opponent?
They get Monday off, while Southern Maine, Emory, and St. Thomas play a pair of games to see who will need to beat Whitewater twice on Tuesday.

The BIG advantage with the win by Whitewater tonight is getting an additional day of rest for their pitching staff, while the other three teams are using arms just to get to Tuesday.  If you are Whitewater, you are pulling for the winner of game on on Monday to win game two as well, since they will have burned through more of their pitching depth.

Regardless, I would venture to bet we will see Plaza throw the first game on Tuesday as he will have had three days rest.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: GBMAN on May 26, 2014, 08:50:35 PM
It will be Emory and Wisconsin Whitewater tomorrow. First pitch at 11:00 am
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 26, 2014, 09:24:27 PM
Whitewater is making it look easy I can't imagine them not winning handily first game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 27, 2014, 02:02:46 PM
Looks like Shinetime was right all along!!!!!   ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 27, 2014, 02:18:21 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 27, 2014, 02:02:46 PM
Looks like Shinetime was right all along!!!!!   ;D

Looks that way. 7-0 going into the 8th
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MasterJedi on May 27, 2014, 02:22:09 PM
Pretty damn impressive so far to keep Emory scoreless. They just scored double digits twice yesterday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 27, 2014, 02:32:21 PM
that'll do it!!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 27, 2014, 02:35:10 PM
2013-2014 - Year of the Warhawk!!!

Football
Basketball
Baseball

All National Champs!!! Unbelievable!!

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ECSUalum on May 27, 2014, 02:50:18 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on May 27, 2014, 02:35:10 PM
2013-2014 - Year of the Warhawk!!!

Football
Basketball
Baseball

All National Champs!!! Unbelievable!!

OUTSTANDING! OUTSTANDING! OUTSTANDING!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 27, 2014, 02:58:57 PM
You guys do realize the ONLY reason Whitewater is winning all these titles is because they are a D2 school playing at the D3 level!!!   ::)








Just kidding!!!! ;D  Hopefully most people understand by now it takes more than a large enrollment to win at the National level.

Congrats on a great season 'Hawks!!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 27, 2014, 03:14:44 PM
I never had a doubt whitewater would win it all after what they did to point.   I knew they wouldnt face a pitching staff like that again.  I would bet my house on whitewater next year too may even pull triple crown again.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 27, 2014, 03:15:54 PM
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Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 27, 2014, 03:35:15 PM
Better yet...

Dogpile video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JayGySOhLOY)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: emma17 on May 27, 2014, 05:37:11 PM
Congratulations UWW Baseball!
I was able to watch the stream on phone and was so impressed with all aspects of their game. Excellent pitching aided by exceptional defense. Good hitting throughout the lineup.

A great day and year to be a Warhawk.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on May 27, 2014, 05:43:23 PM
Congratulations to the UW-W baseball team! They really dominated the tournament. 8-0. They left no doubt as to the best team in the nation.  Way to go Hawks!

Tip of the cap has to go to ShineTime. He definitely called it!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 27, 2014, 08:07:57 PM
Thanks I appreciate it but honestly I felt I was stating the obvious all along.  There was never a doubt in my mind that whitewater was going to win it all.  I've been following the Wiac hard core the past 18 seasons and it was rather obvious they were dominant in all facets.  To take 4 out of 5 vs point with the pitchers point has is more than impressive.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 27, 2014, 08:52:02 PM
Earlier the topic of the impact that a natural grass field might have on defenses was discussed.  For whatever reason I thought it would be interesting to keep track of it.  The numbers are skewed because some teams played more games than others but here are the results.

Team....Regular Season....World Series
Cortland State... .976 ... .911 (10 errors)
Linfield... .975 ... .911  (5 errors)
Salisbury... .967 ... .966 (4 errors)
WHITEWATER... .964 ... .967 (5 errors)
St. Thomas... .963 ... .938 (8 errors)
Southern Maine... .962 ... .946 (9 errors)
Emory... .960 ... .937 (15 errors)
Baldwin Wallace... .951 ... .971 (3 errors)

Interestingly it seems to have had the most impact on the two best teams and the worst team improved the most.  It didn't seem to have much of an impact on either us or Salisbury.  Emory averaged the highest number of errors per game yet played for the championship.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on May 27, 2014, 09:52:49 PM
Coach Twardoski and Jared Welch were really impressive in the Emory post-game press conference. Very classy and humble guys.  I continue to be impressed with D-III coaches and athletes.  The video is worth watching. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jackson5 on May 27, 2014, 10:02:23 PM
So is Wisconsin-Whitewater ready to admit that they don't belong in D3 yet or do they still want to pretend that D3 was designed for Public universities with 5 figure enrollments?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: GBMAN on May 27, 2014, 10:23:45 PM
Awesome job Wisconsin Whitewater.. From the conference tourney, to the regionals and now the World Series.  Amazing job 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Strike1 on May 27, 2014, 10:25:39 PM
Whitewater looked very good but seemed to have some advantages, playing at home and with the ideal game times didn't hurt their chances any. Curious how they pegged the west team with the early time slot of 10am Ct which of course is 8am PT. With bp before game and other pre-game functions it meant a very early start of the day for those players. Why wouldn't they give the west coast team a later start?  Talk to anybody outside of Appleton and they would all sense the tilt towards Whitewater and the snub for some other teams. Linfield team didn't even get full introductions like the opposing team in the same game! Pretty low blow by those running the tourney! Watched multiple games and the field prep for the late whitewater games were stepped up compared to earlier games, not as much water on the field made for a few rough games and the errors should that! Some crazy hops in some Emory games and same with Cortland. This tourney was down compared to previous years, I think it's time for a change. Previous years had more festivities, more pictures and souvenirs! Great teams playing in a poorly ran, home team favored tourney! I hope to watch from a different venue next year!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 27, 2014, 10:32:40 PM
Quote from: Strike1 on May 27, 2014, 10:25:39 PM
Whitewater looked very good but seemed to have some advantages, playing at home and with the ideal game times didn't hurt their chances any. Curious how they pegged the west team with the early time slot of 10am Ct which of course is 8am PT. With bp before game and other pre-game functions it meant a very early start of the day for those players. Why wouldn't they give the west coast team a later start?  Talk to anybody outside of Appleton and they would all sense the tilt towards Whitewater and the snub for some other teams. Linfield team didn't even get full introductions like the opposing team in the same game! Pretty low blow by those running the tourney! Watched multiple games and the field prep for the late whitewater games were stepped up compared to earlier games, not as much water on the field made for a few rough games and the errors should that! Some crazy hops in some Emory games and same with Cortland. This tourney was down compared to previous years, I think it's time for a change. Previous years had more festivities, more pictures and souvenirs! Great teams playing in a poorly ran, home team favored tourney! I hope to watch from a different venue next year!

You are the first I have heard say that. It is staying in Appleton as it should be. Regardless of field prep dIfferences, it was the same for both teams each time Whitewater played so not sure how field prep favored them.

In my years on this board, that may be the most illogical statement I have ever read.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Strike1 on May 27, 2014, 10:55:16 PM
And the scheduling?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 27, 2014, 11:11:59 PM
The tourney schedule is different every year I remember when point played Emory at 10 am on a Friday when Zimmerman pitched a gem.  The same argument could be made for uwsp having to travel to linfield I'm sure the time change affected them somewhat.  The World Series is far and away going to do better in appleton than any other venue.  On a side note man can some of those whitewater fans pound beer I was highly impressed and had a good time watching some of the games.  All in all I feel the NCAA did an awesome job and now realize it's nearly impossible to ever get the best 8 teams in the nation to appleton.  I think the field was outstanding but still think there were more than likely a few teams maybe only 2 that probably were better than two of the teams there.  Linfield going two and out was rather shocking but I was never overly impressed with their offense including last year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: mr_b on May 27, 2014, 11:21:47 PM
Quote from: Strike1 on May 27, 2014, 10:55:16 PM
And the scheduling?
I don't think you can do too much about the scheduling. They can't spread games out much more than that because they can never predict what the weather will be like over the course of four days.  I'm not sure how they assign the initial pairings, but it's probably set by the NCAA.  All teams arrive a day or two in advance so they can get acclimated.

Looking at the first day, they needed to get in four games.  Game one, first pitch, 10.00 AM.  Game four, first pitch, 8.20 PM.  If you move the game up even one hour, then the fourth game wouldn't start till 9.20 PM.  Because Linfield lost its first game, it played the first elimination game on day two, which also started at 10 AM.    If you have an alternative, feel free to pass it along to the tournament planners.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Strike1 on May 27, 2014, 11:32:36 PM
Hasp going out west for a 10am game would be 12 ct so not a factor, west going out and playing 10 am ct is brutal, one would think it those teams would get at least an afternoon game. Once you lose it is what it is but game one should consider the time difference for sure. Getting there a day early isn't much help.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on May 27, 2014, 11:42:20 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on May 27, 2014, 10:02:23 PM
So is Wisconsin-Whitewater ready to admit that they don't belong in D3 yet or do they still want to pretend that D3 was designed for Public universities with 5 figure enrollments?

If you don't like it, tell your school to get better. Otherwise, just enjoy the show.  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 27, 2014, 11:54:00 PM
Quote from: Strike1 on May 27, 2014, 11:32:36 PM
Hasp going out west for a 10am game would be 12 ct so not a factor, west going out and playing 10 am ct is brutal, one would think it those teams would get at least an afternoon game. Once you lose it is what it is but game one should consider the time difference for sure. Getting there a day early isn't much help.
The schedule rotates on an annual basis....  Linfield drew the 1:15 pm time slot last year in their opener against Ithaca.

With teams coming from all over, you are going to run into issues no matter how you schedule it.  I'm sure Kean (New Jersey) would have rather not played their opening game at 9:00 pm EST last season, however they still opened the World Series with a victory.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: houdini on May 28, 2014, 01:40:26 AM
Quote from: Strike1 on May 27, 2014, 10:25:39 PM
Whitewater looked very good but seemed to have some advantages, playing at home and with the ideal game times didn't hurt their chances any.

Talk to anybody outside of Appleton and they would all sense the tilt towards Whitewater and the snub for some other teams.


Watched multiple games and the field prep for the late whitewater games were stepped up compared to earlier games, not as much water on the field made for a few rough games and the errors should that! Some crazy hops in some Emory games and same with Cortland.

This tourney was down compared to previous years, I think it's time for a change.  Great teams playing in a poorly ran, home team favored tourney! I hope to watch from a different venue next year!

Whitewater is over 100 miles from Appleton and they were playing on a field they never played on, so I really don't get the home field advantage thing.  Sure they had more fans, but that really didn't seem like a factor to me.

I live 200 miles out of Appleton and am far from being a Whitewater fan.  The only people I heard whining about the tournament were  some Saint Thomas fans, who were also talking conspiracy.  Seeing how they just barely squeeked by in most of their games it's a good thing it was rigged ::)

I don't know if it was part of the conspiracy or not, but for some reason the sun was gone for the Whitewater late games.  For an experiment you can take a sprinkling can out to the sandbox when the sun is beating down on it and when it's not and see what happens to the water.

This is the 7th series in Appleton I've attended all or part of (I missed last year so I don't know what was there last year) other than the people selling overpriced photos and the Hershey's home run (which I thought was cool) I didn't notice any difference.  The players and coaches seem to give Appleton a favorable review.  A lot of the stuff you are whining about are NCAA issues not Appleton issues.  If I hated something that bad I would stay away.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 28, 2014, 08:01:53 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on May 27, 2014, 10:02:23 PM
So is Wisconsin-Whitewater ready to admit that they don't belong in D3 yet or do they still want to pretend that D3 was designed for Public universities with 5 figure enrollments?

And so it begins...... ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MasterJedi on May 28, 2014, 09:27:27 AM
Quote from: Strike1 on May 27, 2014, 10:25:39 PM
Whitewater looked very good but seemed to have some advantages, playing at home and with the ideal game times didn't hurt their chances any. Curious how they pegged the west team with the early time slot of 10am Ct which of course is 8am PT. With bp before game and other pre-game functions it meant a very early start of the day for those players. Why wouldn't they give the west coast team a later start?  Talk to anybody outside of Appleton and they would all sense the tilt towards Whitewater and the snub for some other teams. Linfield team didn't even get full introductions like the opposing team in the same game! Pretty low blow by those running the tourney! Watched multiple games and the field prep for the late whitewater games were stepped up compared to earlier games, not as much water on the field made for a few rough games and the errors should that! Some crazy hops in some Emory games and same with Cortland. This tourney was down compared to previous years, I think it's time for a change. Previous years had more festivities, more pictures and souvenirs! Great teams playing in a poorly ran, home team favored tourney! I hope to watch from a different venue next year!

The main problem it seemed from watching the games is Linfield didn't really try until there were about 4 innings left in the final game. Looks like they followed the fans and phoned in the second championship. If it really was because of an early start then they should be ashamed of themselves for not having enough discipline to get enough sleep.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 28, 2014, 09:31:17 AM
Quote from: Strike1 on May 27, 2014, 10:25:39 PM
Whitewater looked very good but seemed to have some advantages, playing at home and with the ideal game times didn't hurt their chances any. Curious how they pegged the west team with the early time slot of 10am Ct which of course is 8am PT. With bp before game and other pre-game functions it meant a very early start of the day for those players. Why wouldn't they give the west coast team a later start?  Talk to anybody outside of Appleton and they would all sense the tilt towards Whitewater and the snub for some other teams. Linfield team didn't even get full introductions like the opposing team in the same game! Pretty low blow by those running the tourney! Watched multiple games and the field prep for the late whitewater games were stepped up compared to earlier games, not as much water on the field made for a few rough games and the errors should that! Some crazy hops in some Emory games and same with Cortland. This tourney was down compared to previous years, I think it's time for a change. Previous years had more festivities, more pictures and souvenirs! Great teams playing in a poorly ran, home team favored tourney! I hope to watch from a different venue next year!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0&feature=kp
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 28, 2014, 09:55:53 AM
The teams arrive several days before their first game and have plenty of time to adjust to the time zone change.  That's simply the most absurd excuse I've heard.  The schedule of games was set by the NCAA last year before they had any idea which teams would be participating.  Suggesting that it was somehow rigged to favor WHITEWATER is another absurd excuse.  Nothing is ever perfect but overall I thought tournament management did, as the pretty much always have, an very good job running the tournament.

Have to second Bleed regarding the head coach of Emory and the player who participated in the post game interview.  Class all the way. 

Strike, you're going to be disappointed because Appleton will be the tournament venue through the 2016 season. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 28, 2014, 10:25:44 AM
The world series couldve been in japan this year and whitewater wouldve won the title they left no doubt they were the best and really there wasnt a close 2nd.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jackson5 on May 28, 2014, 01:00:42 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on May 28, 2014, 08:01:53 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on May 27, 2014, 10:02:23 PM
So is Wisconsin-Whitewater ready to admit that they don't belong in D3 yet or do they still want to pretend that D3 was designed for Public universities with 5 figure enrollments?

And so it begins...... ::)

You guys had a winning streak that was over 40 games in football, have won 4 of the last 5 national championships in football. Have won 10 national championships overall since 2005. You have the student body and the facilities for it. The excuse was always that you couldn't move up in football because you'd have to move up in all sports. You're dominating in basketball and baseball to now so what's holding you guys back?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 28, 2014, 01:18:47 PM
Quote from: Strike1 on May 27, 2014, 11:32:36 PM
Hasp going out west for a 10am game would be 12 ct so not a factor, west going out and playing 10 am ct is brutal, one would think it those teams would get at least an afternoon game. Once you lose it is what it is but game one should consider the time difference for sure. Getting there a day early isn't much help.

I do think there's a point to be made here. Is this determined by blind draw or what?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 28, 2014, 01:20:41 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on May 28, 2014, 01:00:42 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on May 28, 2014, 08:01:53 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on May 27, 2014, 10:02:23 PM
So is Wisconsin-Whitewater ready to admit that they don't belong in D3 yet or do they still want to pretend that D3 was designed for Public universities with 5 figure enrollments?

And so it begins...... ::)

You guys had a winning streak that was over 40 games in football, have won 4 of the last 5 national championships in football. Have won 10 national championships overall since 2005. You have the student body and the facilities for it. The excuse was always that you couldn't move up in football because you'd have to move up in all sports. You're dominating in basketball and baseball to now so what's holding you guys back?

The phrase "Born on third base, think they hit a triple" comes to mind. Really is amazing that they or some other public giant doesn't win it every year in a no-athletic-scholarships environment.

And of course they're so humble about it too.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 28, 2014, 01:24:11 PM
Quote from: MasterJedi on May 28, 2014, 09:27:27 AM
Quote from: Strike1 on May 27, 2014, 10:25:39 PM
Whitewater looked very good but seemed to have some advantages, playing at home and with the ideal game times didn't hurt their chances any. Curious how they pegged the west team with the early time slot of 10am Ct which of course is 8am PT. With bp before game and other pre-game functions it meant a very early start of the day for those players. Why wouldn't they give the west coast team a later start?  Talk to anybody outside of Appleton and they would all sense the tilt towards Whitewater and the snub for some other teams. Linfield team didn't even get full introductions like the opposing team in the same game! Pretty low blow by those running the tourney! Watched multiple games and the field prep for the late whitewater games were stepped up compared to earlier games, not as much water on the field made for a few rough games and the errors should that! Some crazy hops in some Emory games and same with Cortland. This tourney was down compared to previous years, I think it's time for a change. Previous years had more festivities, more pictures and souvenirs! Great teams playing in a poorly ran, home team favored tourney! I hope to watch from a different venue next year!

The main problem it seemed from watching the games is Linfield didn't really try until there were about 4 innings left in the final game. Looks like they followed the fans and phoned in the second championship. If it really was because of an early start then they should be ashamed of themselves for not having enough discipline to get enough sleep.

There have been teams in Appleton for whom this was an issue, but I seriously doubt Linfield coached by Scott Brosius was one of them. I also seriously doubt they phoned in the second championship.

It's just hard to repeat. You'll find out next year, most likely.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on May 28, 2014, 01:26:34 PM
I don't have a dog in this fight, but when is winning a D3 CWS title in 10 years dominating?

Congrats to UW-WW on a job well done. They are National Champs for the next year and we will see what happens next year. Repeating is very difficult to do as Linfield found out with essentially the same roster as last year.

PS: No one really cares about D3 football anyway, it is so far from the D1 level it is not funny. It is much easier to transition a baseball program up or down but to transition a whole school is a monumental undertaking. The top ranked D3 baseball programs (across the country) can compete with D1 teams, but a D3 football program would not last a quarter vs a D1, just apples and oranges.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 28, 2014, 01:26:49 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 27, 2014, 03:14:44 PM
I never had a doubt whitewater would win it all after what they did to point.   I knew they wouldnt face a pitching staff like that again.  I would bet my house on whitewater next year too may even pull triple crown again.

Where's your house and what's it worth?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 28, 2014, 01:48:59 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 20, 2014, 10:40:13 AM
Pat, I'm a little surprised that Mikole Pierce wouldn't be included in the list of players to watch at the World Series.  Aside from being both the conference's co-player of the year and the region's player of the year his numbers (.446 BA, 79 H, 58 RBI, 8 2B, 7 3B, 9 HR, 16-18 SB) are better than many of the others.  I realize you can't include everyone and Dylan Friend is also notable but so is Pierce.

So just for the record, this isn't the place to reach me for these sorts of things and for those of you who don't follow baseball unless you're in the playoffs :) Jim Dixon is the D3baseball.com guy. I just pitch in come playoff time because I love baseball and the D3WS is "nearby."
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MasterJedi on May 28, 2014, 01:54:28 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on May 28, 2014, 01:00:42 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on May 28, 2014, 08:01:53 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on May 27, 2014, 10:02:23 PM
So is Wisconsin-Whitewater ready to admit that they don't belong in D3 yet or do they still want to pretend that D3 was designed for Public universities with 5 figure enrollments?

And so it begins...... ::)

You guys had a winning streak that was over 40 games in football, have won 4 of the last 5 national championships in football. Have won 10 national championships overall since 2005. You have the student body and the facilities for it. The excuse was always that you couldn't move up in football because you'd have to move up in all sports. You're dominating in basketball and baseball to now so what's holding you guys back?

An act of the state legislature would be needed to allow UWW to move up, so will never happen anyways.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 28, 2014, 01:58:09 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on May 28, 2014, 01:00:42 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on May 28, 2014, 08:01:53 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on May 27, 2014, 10:02:23 PM
So is Wisconsin-Whitewater ready to admit that they don't belong in D3 yet or do they still want to pretend that D3 was designed for Public universities with 5 figure enrollments?

And so it begins...... ::)

You guys had a winning streak that was over 40 games in football, have won 4 of the last 5 national championships in football. Have won 10 national championships overall since 2005. You have the student body and the facilities for it. The excuse was always that you couldn't move up in football because you'd have to move up in all sports. You're dominating in basketball and baseball to now so what's holding you guys back?

Two things:
1. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
2. State of Wisconsin Assembly and Senate, Board of Regents
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 28, 2014, 02:03:25 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 28, 2014, 01:58:09 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on May 28, 2014, 01:00:42 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on May 28, 2014, 08:01:53 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on May 27, 2014, 10:02:23 PM
So is Wisconsin-Whitewater ready to admit that they don't belong in D3 yet or do they still want to pretend that D3 was designed for Public universities with 5 figure enrollments?

And so it begins...... ::)

You guys had a winning streak that was over 40 games in football, have won 4 of the last 5 national championships in football. Have won 10 national championships overall since 2005. You have the student body and the facilities for it. The excuse was always that you couldn't move up in football because you'd have to move up in all sports. You're dominating in basketball and baseball to now so what's holding you guys back?

Two things:
1. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
2. State of Wisconsin Assembly and Senate, Board of Regents

How does Parkside do it then?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: NWBaseballFan10 on May 28, 2014, 02:04:04 PM
Quote from: Strike1 on May 27, 2014, 10:25:39 PM
Whitewater looked very good but seemed to have some advantages, playing at home and with the ideal game times didn't hurt their chances any. Curious how they pegged the west team with the early time slot of 10am Ct which of course is 8am PT. With bp before game and other pre-game functions it meant a very early start of the day for those players. Why wouldn't they give the west coast team a later start?  Talk to anybody outside of Appleton and they would all sense the tilt towards Whitewater and the snub for some other teams. Linfield team didn't even get full introductions like the opposing team in the same game! Pretty low blow by those running the tourney! Watched multiple games and the field prep for the late whitewater games were stepped up compared to earlier games, not as much water on the field made for a few rough games and the errors should that! Some crazy hops in some Emory games and same with Cortland. This tourney was down compared to previous years, I think it's time for a change. Previous years had more festivities, more pictures and souvenirs! Great teams playing in a poorly ran, home team favored tourney! I hope to watch from a different venue next year!

As a Linfield follower, even I cannot agree with these thoughts. I'm sure it was a difficult adjustment for the players (probably the earliest games they have ever had to play if you go by pacific time), but that certainly can't be an excuse for their WS performance. Bottom line is they played their worst 2 games all year at the wrong time and Whitewater looked flawless. Because of this, there is a new team at the top of D3 baseball. Congrats to Whitewater.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 28, 2014, 02:15:13 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 28, 2014, 02:03:25 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 28, 2014, 01:58:09 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on May 28, 2014, 01:00:42 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on May 28, 2014, 08:01:53 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on May 27, 2014, 10:02:23 PM
So is Wisconsin-Whitewater ready to admit that they don't belong in D3 yet or do they still want to pretend that D3 was designed for Public universities with 5 figure enrollments?

And so it begins...... ::)

You guys had a winning streak that was over 40 games in football, have won 4 of the last 5 national championships in football. Have won 10 national championships overall since 2005. You have the student body and the facilities for it. The excuse was always that you couldn't move up in football because you'd have to move up in all sports. You're dominating in basketball and baseball to now so what's holding you guys back?

Two things:
1. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
2. State of Wisconsin Assembly and Senate, Board of Regents

How does Parkside do it then?

Boring history lesson to follow...

The UW System was created in 1971 and the current three division NCAA structure in 1973-74. The UW System was a merger of the University of Wisconsin System and the Wisconsin State University System. All of the former UW System schools (Madison, Milwaukee, Green Bay and Parkside) were giving out athletic scholarships. The Wisconsin State University colleges (aka the WSUC and now the WIAC) were not. So every school in the new UW System needed to figure out where they belonged. Being athletic scholarship schools already, the four UW System schools fell naturally into D-I and D-II. The Wisconsin State schools were not, so they fell naturally into D-III. Madison was obviously going to be D-I. Milwaukee, Green Bay and Parkside felt they had the support to play Division II so they went there. The rest of the UW schools wanted to be Division III.

So the State Legislature wrote into the charter of the UW System schools that only Madison, Milwaukee, Green Bay and Parkside could offer athletic scholarships. Since then Milwaukee and Green Bay have elevated to D-I because they had sufficient support to do so. Parkside has stayed pretty much the same over the years.

So for any of the non-scholarship schools to move to D-I or D-II they would need the State Legislature to agree to change the charter of the UW System. I'm no expert if legislative matters, but I'm certain that it wouldn't be easy in the budget-conscious world of state politics.

So to answer Spence's question as to how UW-Parkside managed to move to D-II, the answer is they didn't. They just started there.

I think there is WAY more possibility that at some point Parkside comes back to D-III and joins the WIAC. They haven't thrived in Division II and at some point a UW Board of Regents member is going to look at a budget sheet and wonder why they are spending so much money to send teams to Rolla, Mo. and other scenic locals when they could play 90% of their games withing a 3-hour drive in D-III. Not to mention the savings of not paying out athletics scholarships. Plus making that move wouldn't require a change to the UW System charter.

Still, I don't think a Parkside move to D-III is imminent either, although I've never understood what D-II gains them.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 28, 2014, 02:33:46 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on May 28, 2014, 02:15:13 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 28, 2014, 02:03:25 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 28, 2014, 01:58:09 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on May 28, 2014, 01:00:42 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on May 28, 2014, 08:01:53 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on May 27, 2014, 10:02:23 PM
So is Wisconsin-Whitewater ready to admit that they don't belong in D3 yet or do they still want to pretend that D3 was designed for Public universities with 5 figure enrollments?

And so it begins...... ::)

You guys had a winning streak that was over 40 games in football, have won 4 of the last 5 national championships in football. Have won 10 national championships overall since 2005. You have the student body and the facilities for it. The excuse was always that you couldn't move up in football because you'd have to move up in all sports. You're dominating in basketball and baseball to now so what's holding you guys back?

Two things:
1. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
2. State of Wisconsin Assembly and Senate, Board of Regents

How does Parkside do it then?

So to answer Spence's question as to how UW-Parkside managed to move to D-II, the answer is they didn't. They just started there.

Which is a cop out answer. Like you said, teams have moved divisions before, so obviously there's precedent for it happening again.

In fairness though, most of the WIAC should be D-II, not just Whitewater. You'd think that would be a proposed solution to the problem Superior causes -- for the other schools to play at the level they should already be.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 28, 2014, 02:37:20 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 28, 2014, 02:33:46 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on May 28, 2014, 02:15:13 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 28, 2014, 02:03:25 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 28, 2014, 01:58:09 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on May 28, 2014, 01:00:42 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on May 28, 2014, 08:01:53 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on May 27, 2014, 10:02:23 PM
So is Wisconsin-Whitewater ready to admit that they don't belong in D3 yet or do they still want to pretend that D3 was designed for Public universities with 5 figure enrollments?

And so it begins...... ::)

You guys had a winning streak that was over 40 games in football, have won 4 of the last 5 national championships in football. Have won 10 national championships overall since 2005. You have the student body and the facilities for it. The excuse was always that you couldn't move up in football because you'd have to move up in all sports. You're dominating in basketball and baseball to now so what's holding you guys back?

Two things:
1. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
2. State of Wisconsin Assembly and Senate, Board of Regents

How does Parkside do it then?

So to answer Spence's question as to how UW-Parkside managed to move to D-II, the answer is they didn't. They just started there.

Which is a cop out answer. Like you said, teams have moved divisions before, so obviously there's precedent for it happening again.

In fairness though, most of if not the WIAC should be D-II, not just Whitewater.

I'm just telling you how it is.

No one has moved from a non-scholarship model to a scholarship model. That's the catch that involves the state government. I'm sure if a school wanted to make the leap they could do it, but my only point is that it's not as simple as just putting in an application with the NCAA.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 28, 2014, 02:39:05 PM
"I'm sure if a school wanted to make the leap they could do it,"

This is the only part of your statement that matters. They haven't done it because they don't want to; they'd rather be big fish in a small pond.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 28, 2014, 02:41:17 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 28, 2014, 02:39:05 PM
"I'm sure if a school wanted to make the leap they could do it,"

This is the only part of your statement that matters. They haven't done it because they don't want to; they'd rather be big fish in a small pond.
Which you would agree is their right.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 28, 2014, 02:42:50 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on May 28, 2014, 02:41:17 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 28, 2014, 02:39:05 PM
"I'm sure if a school wanted to make the leap they could do it,"

This is the only part of your statement that matters. They haven't done it because they don't want to; they'd rather be big fish in a small pond.
Which you would agree is their right.

Makes the criticism more than fair, though.

Interesting though that D-III has done a number of things to cut the legs out from under powers, especially in baseball, but has done nothing about this kind of imbalance.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 28, 2014, 02:45:23 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 28, 2014, 02:42:50 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on May 28, 2014, 02:41:17 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 28, 2014, 02:39:05 PM
"I'm sure if a school wanted to make the leap they could do it,"

This is the only part of your statement that matters. They haven't done it because they don't want to; they'd rather be big fish in a small pond.
Which you would agree is their right.

Makes the criticism more than fair, though.

Interesting though that D-III has done a number of things to cut the legs out from under powers, especially in baseball, but has done nothing about this kind of imbalance.

Is that what this is all about? I don't recall a Whitewater supporter ever saying they CAN'T go to a different division. Only that it's not realistically feasible, and it's not.

And the D-III membership that worried about that imbalance tried to do something about it. They tried to split into a sub-division, but over 80% of the membership defeated it. So clearly it's not as big of an issue for most of them.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 28, 2014, 02:51:33 PM
Now look what you've done. You've got me defending Whitewater fans. I hate myself.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 28, 2014, 02:54:24 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 28, 2014, 01:20:41 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on May 28, 2014, 01:00:42 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on May 28, 2014, 08:01:53 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on May 27, 2014, 10:02:23 PM
So is Wisconsin-Whitewater ready to admit that they don't belong in D3 yet or do they still want to pretend that D3 was designed for Public universities with 5 figure enrollments?

And so it begins...... ::)

You guys had a winning streak that was over 40 games in football, have won 4 of the last 5 national championships in football. Have won 10 national championships overall since 2005. You have the student body and the facilities for it. The excuse was always that you couldn't move up in football because you'd have to move up in all sports. You're dominating in basketball and baseball to now so what's holding you guys back?

The phrase "Born on third base, think they hit a triple" comes to mind. Really is amazing that they or some other public giant doesn't win it every year in a no-athletic-scholarships environment. And of course they're so humble about it too.

This topic is too exhausting to me....I'll let someone else explain why school size doesn't matter in college sports (scholarship or no scholarship).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 28, 2014, 03:12:36 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on May 28, 2014, 02:45:23 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 28, 2014, 02:42:50 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on May 28, 2014, 02:41:17 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 28, 2014, 02:39:05 PM
"I'm sure if a school wanted to make the leap they could do it,"

This is the only part of your statement that matters. They haven't done it because they don't want to; they'd rather be big fish in a small pond.
Which you would agree is their right.

Makes the criticism more than fair, though.

Interesting though that D-III has done a number of things to cut the legs out from under powers, especially in baseball, but has done nothing about this kind of imbalance.

Is that what this is all about? I don't recall a Whitewater supporter ever saying they CAN'T go to a different division. Only that it's not realistically feasible, and it's not.

What is unfeasible about it? I don't really see why if Parkside can be D-II that most of the WIAC (minus Lax, Eau Claire and Superior) couldn't. So they don't want to...fine, but then that makes the criticism that they're "playing down" completely fair game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 28, 2014, 03:13:17 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on May 28, 2014, 02:54:24 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 28, 2014, 01:20:41 PM
Quote from: jackson5 on May 28, 2014, 01:00:42 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on May 28, 2014, 08:01:53 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on May 27, 2014, 10:02:23 PM
So is Wisconsin-Whitewater ready to admit that they don't belong in D3 yet or do they still want to pretend that D3 was designed for Public universities with 5 figure enrollments?

And so it begins...... ::)

You guys had a winning streak that was over 40 games in football, have won 4 of the last 5 national championships in football. Have won 10 national championships overall since 2005. You have the student body and the facilities for it. The excuse was always that you couldn't move up in football because you'd have to move up in all sports. You're dominating in basketball and baseball to now so what's holding you guys back?

The phrase "Born on third base, think they hit a triple" comes to mind. Really is amazing that they or some other public giant doesn't win it every year in a no-athletic-scholarships environment. And of course they're so humble about it too.

This topic is too exhausting to me....I'll let someone else explain why school size doesn't matter in college sports (scholarship or no scholarship).

And you'll be wrong.

It's about resource allocation.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 28, 2014, 03:13:44 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 28, 2014, 02:39:05 PM
"I'm sure if a school wanted to make the leap they could do it,"

This is the only part of your statement that matters. They haven't done it because they don't want to; they'd rather be big fish in a small pond.

One could say the same about Marietta.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 28, 2014, 03:16:41 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 28, 2014, 03:13:44 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 28, 2014, 02:39:05 PM
"I'm sure if a school wanted to make the leap they could do it,"

This is the only part of your statement that matters. They haven't done it because they don't want to; they'd rather be big fish in a small pond.

One could say the same about Marietta.

I can see you've never been to Marietta. :) Probably the 2nd smallest OAC school after Wilmington.

The idea of Marietta being able to compete on any higher level in football is particularly hilarious. They're still working on resembling a Division III program.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 28, 2014, 03:19:30 PM
Then how does Duke compete in D1? Size is mostly irrelevant.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 28, 2014, 03:21:41 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 28, 2014, 03:19:30 PM
Then how does Duke compete in D1? Size is mostly irrelevant.

+K

BigPoppa gets it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 28, 2014, 03:27:21 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 28, 2014, 03:19:30 PM
Then how does Duke compete in D1? Size is mostly irrelevant.

D1 is completely different from D3 in that regard. Even high vs. low D1 there's a difference. UCF and its huge enrollment has more potential as a program than Tulsa and its tiny one.

At D3, the difference in size and public status is access to resources, and ease of same. It's not the only one, but it's one that is pretty directly correlated to size.

ETA: Duke has one of the highest budgets and strongest revenue streams in all of college basketball because of their media and marketing presence. None of that plays in D3.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on May 28, 2014, 03:43:35 PM
I'll make just one post on this topic and declare myself a W&L alum, so I have no skin in this game. The first point is there is nothing in the D3 bylaws about school size or public/private institutions. It's not a consideration and it doesn't have anything to do with the D3 definition except in our heads. Second, nothing in the D3 bylaws creates an equal athletic environment. No facilities, attendance, financial, or participation requirements. The lack of scholarships plus a certain number of teams and governing body approval is all that governs D3. If Ohio State wanted to abide by the D3 strictures regarding scholarships, they would be welcome. If you would like some other restrictions added, that's different, but right now none exist.

Finally, if you look at the Learfield Director's Cup, which awards the top athletic department in each of the divisions, you will find that while UWW, and some of the other WIAC schools do well, none have won the Cup in recent years. I think UWW will come close this year, they might actually get it, but they haven't dominated across D3 sports the way other schools such as Williams, Amherst, Middlebury, Wash U and Emory have done in recent years. UWW has neither been as consistent nor as strong. UWW's best finish so far was last year, at 4, and their worst since 05/06 was 32nd in 06/07.

They aren't even the best juggernaut in D3, though they are very, very good. If you aren't advocating some of the NESCAC schools to go up a division, since they are the true D3 sports juggernauts, then you are back to an argument about size and public schools. Which, as I started with, is not mentioned anywhere in the current D3 bylaws. So that whole argument simply exists in your head, not in any useful facts.

Enjoy the argument folks, secure in the knowledge that it has been gone over and over and over again in the recent past.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 28, 2014, 03:50:39 PM
I bet if some 50k enrollment school tried to join D3 that you'd find you're wrong about them being welcome.

UAA and NESCAC schools fit with the profile of D-III. Just because they're good at doing so doesn't put them in the same category as schools that stick out like a sore thumb in D-III.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 28, 2014, 03:54:50 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 28, 2014, 03:50:39 PM
I bet if some 50k enrollment school tried to join D3 that you'd find you're wrong about them being welcome.

UAA and NESCAC schools fit with the profile of D-III. Just because they're good at doing so doesn't put them in the same category as schools that stick out like a sore thumb in D-III.

Where can I find this DIII profile?

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Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: MasterJedi on May 28, 2014, 03:57:32 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on May 28, 2014, 03:54:50 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 28, 2014, 03:50:39 PM
I bet if some 50k enrollment school tried to join D3 that you'd find you're wrong about them being welcome.

UAA and NESCAC schools fit with the profile of D-III. Just because they're good at doing so doesn't put them in the same category as schools that stick out like a sore thumb in D-III.

Where can I find this DIII profile?

Small, private schools that price gouge their students for the status of graduating from a private school since most of them outside of the few that are nationally known, are just as good as public state schools.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AO on May 28, 2014, 04:10:50 PM
Quote from: jknezek on May 28, 2014, 03:43:35 PM
Finally, if you look at the Learfield Director's Cup, which awards the top athletic department in each of the divisions, you will find that while UWW, and some of the other WIAC schools do well, none have won the Cup in recent years. I think UWW will come close this year, they might actually get it, but they haven't dominated across D3 sports the way other schools such as Williams, Amherst, Middlebury, Wash U and Emory have done in recent years. UWW has neither been as consistent nor as strong. UWW's best finish so far was last year, at 4, and their worst since 05/06 was 32nd in 06/07.

They aren't even the best juggernaut in D3, though they are very, very good. If you aren't advocating some of the NESCAC schools to go up a division, since they are the true D3 sports juggernauts, then you are back to an argument about size and public schools. Which, as I started with, is not mentioned anywhere in the current D3 bylaws. So that whole argument simply exists in your head, not in any useful facts.
That's fine that the director's cup considers all sports to be equal, but we all know that they're not.  Teams move to D1 seeking exposure and money generated by Football and Men's Basketball.   

Perhaps Whitewater's success will cause the NCAA to reconsider their ban on allowing individual sports choose their own division apart from the rest of the athletic department.  The current rule clearly hasn't stopped a small number of schools from dominating the rest of the field.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 28, 2014, 04:18:22 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 28, 2014, 03:27:21 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 28, 2014, 03:19:30 PM
Then how does Duke compete in D1? Size is mostly irrelevant.

D1 is completely different from D3 in that regard. Even high vs. low D1 there's a difference. UCF and its huge enrollment has more potential as a program than Tulsa and its tiny one.

At D3, the difference in size and public status is access to resources, and ease of same. It's not the only one, but it's one that is pretty directly correlated to size.

ETA: Duke has one of the highest budgets and strongest revenue streams in all of college basketball because of their media and marketing presence. None of that plays in D3.

So does Mount Union Football have some media and marketing presence that the rest of DIII doesn't know about?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 28, 2014, 04:20:42 PM
Not everyone can survive on government subsidies and gouging taxpayers.

At least at private schools the student chooses to pay.

Of course the implications that the publics are "just as good" as the vast majority of D-III privates is just ridiculous.

US News rankings of Midwestern regional universities...
John Carroll (7), Elmhurst (11), Hamline (11), Dominican (13), North Central (13), Baldwin Wallace (17), Otterbein (17), Bethel (21),  MSOE (21), Webster (21), Augsburg (26), UW-Lax (26), UW-Eau Claire (30), St. Scholastica (33), Capital (35), UW-Stevens Point (42), UW-Whitewater (42), Heidelberg (53), North Park (53), Muskingum (57), UW-Stout (57), Mt. St. Joseph (60), UW-Oshkosh (65), Concordia WI (68), UW-Platteville (72), UW-River Falls (72), Concordia IL (83), Marian (86), UW-Superior (92), Fontbonne (102), Lakeland (108).

WIAC median: 57
Non-WIAC median: 29.5
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 28, 2014, 04:23:06 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on May 28, 2014, 04:18:22 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 28, 2014, 03:27:21 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 28, 2014, 03:19:30 PM
Then how does Duke compete in D1? Size is mostly irrelevant.

D1 is completely different from D3 in that regard. Even high vs. low D1 there's a difference. UCF and its huge enrollment has more potential as a program than Tulsa and its tiny one.

At D3, the difference in size and public status is access to resources, and ease of same. It's not the only one, but it's one that is pretty directly correlated to size.

ETA: Duke has one of the highest budgets and strongest revenue streams in all of college basketball because of their media and marketing presence. None of that plays in D3.

So does Mount Union Football have some media and marketing presence that the rest of DIII doesn't know about?

What part of "none of that plays in D3" escaped you? Obviously, not really, which is exactly the point. Small schools in D1 do have access to that as an option to mitigate their size and increase their budget. You seem to be presuming that Mount Union doesn't, which is fine. If that's true, we can then very reasonably presume no one else does either, since if anyone would be argued to have that advantage as a private, it would be Mount Union.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 28, 2014, 04:36:26 PM
Historically, the most successful football, baseball, basketball, ect. DIII programs have all been private schools (not public). UWW has experienced most of their success in these three sports just over the past 10 years. But have had the same enrollment for decades now.

As good as UWW has been in football, Mount Union has been better and more consistent over the past 10-15 years.

I'll consider this argument the day public schools consistently start meeting each other in the Stagg Bowl, CWS, etc. Or if the NJAC starts dominating because of their large public shool enrollments.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 28, 2014, 04:43:56 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on May 28, 2014, 04:36:26 PM
Hisorically, the most succesfull football, baseball, basketball, ect. DIII programs have all been private schools (not public). UWW has experienced most of their success in these three sports just over the past 10 years. But have had the same enrollment for decades now.

You must think everyone is on crack.

UW schools have 11 national titles in the last 31 years in men's basketball. No private has won more than 2 in that time. Must be some gender equity issues over there though since the women have won just 3. Maybe they aren't getting the same benefits.

For publics to meet in the championships, basically champions of 2 of 4 conferences would have to be the last 2 standing (LEC, NJAC, SUNYAC, WIAC). As unlikely as that might seem, it's happened several times before in baseball; 2005, 1998, 1993, 1991, 1987. Even without an NJAC team, there were 3 in Appleton this year. There were 3 last year as well (no Cortland).

At least one public has been in the championship game 20 times since 1980.

I think that's a pretty high level of consistency in a sport that has had 1 repeat champion in the last 30+ years.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 28, 2014, 04:55:17 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 28, 2014, 04:43:56 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on May 28, 2014, 04:36:26 PM
Hisorically, the most succesfull football, baseball, basketball, ect. DIII programs have all been private schools (not public). UWW has experienced most of their success in these three sports just over the past 10 years. But have had the same enrollment for decades now.

You must think everyone is on crack.

UW schools have 11 national titles in the last 31 years in men's basketball. No private has won more than 2 in that time. Must be some gender equity issues over there though since the women have won just 3. Maybe they aren't getting the same benefits.

So because women's b-ball (or any other DIII sport outside men's Bball for that matter) doesn't fit into your argument, you assume it has something to do with gender inequality?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 28, 2014, 04:58:40 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on May 28, 2014, 04:55:17 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 28, 2014, 04:43:56 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on May 28, 2014, 04:36:26 PM
Hisorically, the most succesfull football, baseball, basketball, ect. DIII programs have all been private schools (not public). UWW has experienced most of their success in these three sports just over the past 10 years. But have had the same enrollment for decades now.

You must think everyone is on crack.

UW schools have 11 national titles in the last 31 years in men's basketball. No private has won more than 2 in that time. Must be some gender equity issues over there though since the women have won just 3. Maybe they aren't getting the same benefits.

So because women's b-ball (or any other DIII sport outside men's Bball for that matter) doesn't fit into your argument, you assume it has something to do with gender inequality?

No sport outside men's basketball, eh? See above. Myth busted.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on May 28, 2014, 06:01:44 PM
Here's the bottom line Spence, Jackson5, et al. UW-W and UW-W fans have to justify NOTHING to you. You talk about things you have set up in your mind (what D-III was "designed for" and a "profile of D-III"). 

The athletes that compete against UW-W don't see them being as dominant as you do.  I think it is a highlight game for most kids in most programs.

You can keep trying to diminish what UW-W is accomplishing. My advice for UW-W fans is to not take the bait.  Whining on the same day that history is made doesn't deserve the attention we have given it. 

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: wildcat11 on May 28, 2014, 06:33:45 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on May 28, 2014, 06:01:44 PM
Here's the bottom line Spence. UW-W and UW-W fans have to justify NOTHING to you. You talk about things you have set up in your mind (what D-III was "designed for" and a "profile of D-III"). 

The athletes that compete against UW-W don't see them being as dominant as you do.  I think it is a highlight game for most kids in most programs.

You can keep trying to diminish what UW-W is accomplishing. My advice for UW-W fans is to not take the bait.  Whining on the same day that history is made doesn't deserve the attention we have given it.

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Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: gordonmann on May 28, 2014, 06:46:46 PM
The only thing that unites Division III schools is they don't offer scholarships.  Look across the landscape and you'll find public schools (small and large), large private research-based schools, small elite private schools, rich schools, poor schools, etc.  There isn't a unifying approach across all of them, which is why some of them have talked about forming a Division IV that has more limits on athletic competition.

To that end, there's no reason UW-Whitewater should leave Division III.  They don't offer scholarships and that's the major prerequisite to being a Division III school.

UW-Whitewater should be celebrated for what it has achieved.  Along with the football, baseball and basketball winners, don't forget that the women's basketball team finished third out of 400+ schools, the softball team finished third in the NCAA tournament and the women's gymnastics teams won a national championship outside the NCAA's purview.

That said, I think it's also fair to discuss whether UW-Whitewater has a unique set of institutional advantages, in addition to having outstanding athletes, great coaches and a little bit of luck here and there. It's too pat an answer to say, "Whitewater wins because they want it more...their athletes are better...they work harder" (none of which I've read on this page anyway).  Success is usually a mix of talent, hard work and fortunate circumstances.  The existence of one doesn't negate the need for the other two.

That doesn't mean they'll win all the time or that they should get out of Division III.  If Williams makes one or two plays in the men's basketball final or Mary Hardin-Baylor does in the football semifinals, we're not even having this discussion.  And it's probably better to have that discussion a weeks removed from Whitewater's victory so an honest question doesn't get confused as sour grapes.

One last thought.

For those who say UW-Whitewater isn't an athletic power because it hasn't won the Director's Cup -- or that the NESCAC schools are Division III juggernauts because they always dominate the Top 10  in those standings -- you need to look at the Cup's criteria.  The Director's Cup is only a good guage of Division III athletic program's strength to the extent that you equate variety of sports with strength of a program. 

The Cup counts performance in 18 sports (9 men, 9 women) including men's golf, men's and women's lacrosse, women's rowing, women's water polo, men's volleyball. women's field hockey, fencing and men's and women's ice hockey.  I think we'd all consider UW-Whitewater to have a strong sports program and they have none of those sports.  So it'll be tough for them (or most schools outside New England) to ever win the Director's Cup.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brian R. Carroll on May 28, 2014, 07:11:36 PM
Congrats to UWW on winning the D-3 "triple crown." Congratulations are also in order for the UWL men's athletic teams, which edged UWW for the WIAC all sports title. The UWW women narrowly outpointed UWL for the women's crown, and UWW won the overall title, again by a small margin over UWL. Congratulations to all champions from all the WIAC schools.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 28, 2014, 07:22:49 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 28, 2014, 04:43:56 PM

At least one public has been in the championship game 20 times since 1980.


So since 1980, more times than not, a private school has to play a public school for the championship?

Oh the humanity!!!!!

Very well said, Gordan.

Bleed....you know I can't help myself when it comes to topics like these. It makes for a good debate, and passes time at work  8-)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on May 28, 2014, 11:01:36 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on May 28, 2014, 07:22:49 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 28, 2014, 04:43:56 PM

At least one public has been in the championship game 20 times since 1980.


So since 1980, more times than not, a private school has to play a public school for the championship?

Oh the humanity!!!!!

Very well said, Gordan.

Bleed....you know I can't help myself when it comes to topics like these. It makes for a good debate, and passes time at work  8-)

Have at it, brother.

Great post, Gordon. +k

I would probably suggest that when an "honest question" is asked in discussing the matter, perhaps less inflammatory words may lead to a more productive discussion.

"So is Wisconsin-Whitewater ready to admit that they don't belong in D3 yet or do they still want to pretend that D3 was designed for Public universities with 5 figure enrollments?"

To me, that DOES smack of sour grapes.  It also presents a false premise that size and public/private are somehow a part of D3's "design". 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 29, 2014, 04:03:26 AM
Quote from: Brian R. Carroll on May 28, 2014, 07:11:36 PM
Congrats to UWW on winning the D-3 "triple crown." Congratulations are also in order for the UWL men's athletic teams, which edged UWW for the WIAC all sports title. The UWW women narrowly outpointed UWL for the women's crown, and UWW won the overall title, again by a small margin over UWL. Congratulations to all champions from all the WIAC schools.

UWL also has the highest academic standards of all UW branch schools, does it not?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 29, 2014, 04:07:14 AM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on May 28, 2014, 07:22:49 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 28, 2014, 04:43:56 PM

At least one public has been in the championship game 20 times since 1980.


So since 1980, more times than not, a private school has to play a public school for the championship?

Oh the humanity!!!!!

Trying so hard not to make a snarky yet possibly relevant comment here...

Let's just point out that there are MANY more private schools than public in D-III. Imagine how many more times publics would have made it and possibly gone head to head if not for a few private powers like Marietta (which has been in 13 championship games by itself), Chapman, Ithaca (in the early days), Emory and St. Thomas.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 29, 2014, 04:12:24 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on May 28, 2014, 11:01:36 PM

"So is Wisconsin-Whitewater ready to admit that they don't belong in D3 yet or do they still want to pretend that D3 was designed for Public universities with 5 figure enrollments?"

To me, that DOES smack of sour grapes.  It also presents a false premise that size and public/private are somehow a part of D3's "design".

I do not think that D3 was formed with the idea of large state schools being part of it long term. I could be wrong, and it would probably be pretty hard to prove now, but I just doubt that was the impetus.

Like I say, it's just interesting that D3 has taken steps like severely curtailing the number of games, requiring a given number of games against non-scholarship teams, etc. to try to cut down its giants in the past, yet there's no movement on the literal giants among the membership. Not saying that there should be, but the dichotomy is interesting.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: emma17 on May 29, 2014, 11:20:16 AM
Spence - you're obviously a well-researched guy so I applaud you for your detailed reasoning.
If I was a spiter I'd ding you for both your poor timing and your unwillingness to acknowledge other points of view- especially from Just Bill (great posts).
I disagree with you that Marketing Presence doesn't play in D3. Do you really think Mt Union doesn't have a Marketing Presence advantage over just about every D3 football school?

Gordon thanks for the solid post.
I very much agree with this part of your post
"That said, I think it's also fair to discuss whether UW-Whitewater has a unique set of institutional advantages, in addition to having outstanding athletes, great coaches and a little bit of luck here and there. It's too pat an answer to say, "Whitewater wins because they want it more...their athletes are better...they work harder" (none of which I've read on this page anyway).  Success is usually a mix of talent, hard work and fortunate circumstances.  The existence of one doesn't negate the need for the other two."

I do think it's worth having the discussion of what is UWW doing so well as an institution now that they didn't do for decades and decades previous.  They've been a large public school in a geographic hotbed for a long time.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 29, 2014, 11:55:22 AM
Whitewaters facilities are unbelievable if I were a senior looking to play d3 id go there in a hearbeat.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 29, 2014, 12:09:07 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 29, 2014, 11:55:22 AM
Whitewaters facilities are unbelievable if I were a senior looking to play d3 id go there in a hearbeat.

That's a large part of their success. It's no secret UWW is well funded, and their facilities are a huge recruiting tool. That mixed with the lack of D1 and DII programs in the state of Wisconsin (especially in football) is the recipe for their success. Not to mention the administration's continuous efforts to make athletics a major part of the university.

Those are the 3 keys in my opinion to UWW's success.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 29, 2014, 12:19:26 PM
Quote from: emma17 on May 29, 2014, 11:20:16 AM
I do think it's worth having the discussion of what is UWW doing so well as an institution now that they didn't do for decades and decades previous.  They've been a large public school in a geographic hotbed for a long time.

I don't think it's a coincidence that once the athletic department started upgrading their facilities, UWW started to see a spike in their athletic success. Even though their enrollment remained the same.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on May 29, 2014, 12:24:05 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 29, 2014, 04:12:24 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on May 28, 2014, 11:01:36 PM

"So is Wisconsin-Whitewater ready to admit that they don't belong in D3 yet or do they still want to pretend that D3 was designed for Public universities with 5 figure enrollments?"

To me, that DOES smack of sour grapes.  It also presents a false premise that size and public/private are somehow a part of D3's "design".

I do not think that D3 was formed with the idea of large state schools being part of it long term. I could be wrong, and it would probably be pretty hard to prove now, but I just doubt that was the impetus.

Like I say, it's just interesting that D3 has taken steps like severely curtailing the number of games, requiring a given number of games against non-scholarship teams, etc. to try to cut down its giants in the past, yet there's no movement on the literal giants among the membership. Not saying that there should be, but the dichotomy is interesting.

Whether or not D-III was formed "with the idea of large public schools being part of it long term" is an interesting question, but I'm not sure how relevant it is to the discussion.  Along the way, D-III has clearly accepted and embraced what the publics have brought to the table along the way.  No one forced them to let them in.  The D-III policy and philosophy is actually pretty simple and very clear. No scholarships is the lynchpin. As far as I know, the public schools adhere to the values and philosophies of D-III every bit as much as the private schools do.

I didn't realize the changes you mention were taken to "cut down it's giants".  Is that true?

Probably the more antagonistic part of Jackson5's quote was alluding to UW-W "pretending" anything. They were allowed in to D3, they follow the rules, the kids and coaches work just as hard as anyone else, they play, and in UW-W's case, they are successful. Now some argue they don't belong. I will note that to my knowledge there is not one single case in which a public school has reigned dominance over a sport any more than a private school counterpart has in the past. 

In fact, in football, you'd think Ya'll would just say "thank you" because no one other than UW-W has beaten Mount Union in, what, 115 games? FWIW, they've got 2,200 students give or take.

In baseball, if not for UW-W, St. Thomas may well have won the tournament (obviously there is a great argument for Emory). Check out the money St. Thomas puts towards athletics and their enrollment. Would a St. Thomas championship have felt that much better?

In basketball, UW-W won the championship on a last second shot. Not exactly the stuff of a team playing at the wrong level. 

I don't mind discussing an issue, but these facts seem worth noting.




Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: emma17 on May 29, 2014, 02:02:38 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on May 29, 2014, 12:19:26 PM
Quote from: emma17 on May 29, 2014, 11:20:16 AM
I do think it's worth having the discussion of what is UWW doing so well as an institution now that they didn't do for decades and decades previous.  They've been a large public school in a geographic hotbed for a long time.

I don't think it's a coincidence that once the athletic department started upgrading their facilities, UWW started to see a spike in their athletic success. Even though their enrollment remained the same.

No doubt the current facilities are great for recruiting and one of the contributing factors to UWW's recent overall success.  That said, the beautiful stadium was there before I got there in 1983.  UWW didn't win a football championship until 2007.  Actually, basketball had two championships before football's first and I certainly don't consider the Williams Center gym all that great a recruiting tool. Baseball won in 2005 and I don't think their new fields were in until after 2007.

I've heard a phrase recently, something along the lines of "20 sports, 1 team".  I get the feeling there is unity among the athletic programs at UWW that isn't common.  Perhaps that's true with the coaching, trainers, workouts... expectations.  People want to be associated with a winner, especially athletes.  There is a contagion at UWW- and it's a good one.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 29, 2014, 02:15:13 PM
Baseball's final four teams, full time undergrads:

UW-Whitewater: 9,790
Emory: 7,483
St. Thomas: 6,037
Southern Maine: 4,513

Not every school can be the 1,600-student private liberal arts college. Among baseball schools, the median enrollment is 1,814 and the average is 2,419.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 29, 2014, 02:48:35 PM
Interesting...never would have thought Emory was that big.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on May 29, 2014, 02:57:24 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on May 29, 2014, 02:48:35 PM
Interesting...never would have thought Emory was that big.

The UAA schools in general are pretty large institutions. Not St. Thomas sized, but certainly significantly larger than the average D3 private schools.

Emory is 7400+ undergrad
Wash U is 6K+ undergrad
Carnegie Mellon is 6K+ undergrad
Chicago is 5600 undergrad
Case is 4500 undergrad
Brandeis is 3600 undergrad
Rochester is 5700 undergrad

and the real outlier:
NYU is 19K+ undergrad
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 29, 2014, 03:28:33 PM
Division III is one-quarter state schools. This year, state schools have won one-quarter of all of the Division III national championships. (One championship, rowing, has yet to be awarded, but no state schools qualified.)

Here's the stat that tells you who truly dominates Division III. Over the past five years, all of the state schools combined have won 26 titles. In the same span, one D-III conference, the NESCAC, has won 24. Half of the rowing field is NESCAC schools, so we may see that increase to 25 this weekend.

Over the past 18 years, 23.5% of national titles have been won by state schools.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on May 29, 2014, 03:42:02 PM
I don't necessarily think that size matters that much, but it is more about what kind of academic $$ are available, plus other local dynamics.  Certainly in Wisconsin the lack to good D1 programs have an impact. If I was from Wisconsin, I would want to get the He11 out of dodge and go play some place more hospitable to baseball (weather wise of course), but that is coming from a West Coast warm weather perspective.  I have no idea on the academic $$ availability from those schools, but seems to me that would have a larger impact than size. It is not how many are in your pool of players, but who you have attracted to play for you. Certainly facilities impact this.

If you look at the size of the recent CWS winners they have enrollments of (approx) 2,220, 1,450, 10,300 (St Thomas) and 2,160.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 29, 2014, 04:19:16 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 29, 2014, 03:42:02 PM
I don't necessarily think that size matters that much, but it is more about what kind of academic $$ are available, plus other local dynamics.  Certainly in Wisconsin the lack to good D1 programs have an impact. If I was from Wisconsin, I would want to get the He11 out of dodge and go play some place more hospitable to baseball (weather wise of course), but that is coming from a West Coast warm weather perspective.  I have no idea on the academic $$ availability from those schools, but seems to me that would have a larger impact than size. It is not how many are in your pool of players, but who you have attracted to play for you. Certainly facilities impact this.

If you look at the size of the recent CWS winners they have enrollments of (approx) 2,220, 1,450, 10,300 (St Thomas) and 2,160.

Well said. Enrollment size only really matters in (public) high school. Where athletes are picked from your school's enrollment. However, in college, athletes are recruited prior to enrolling.

I know we keep alluding to this, but a perfect example is Mount Union's and Whitewater's football programs. Both our outstanding football programs with completely different enrollments.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 29, 2014, 04:21:05 PM


WIAC players in the Northwoods League:

Eau Claire: Brady Burzynski (Stout)
Green Bay: Matt Sabel (Oshkosh), Luke Watson (Point), Mikole Pierce (WW), Jimmy Coady (Point)
LaCrosse: Ben Cejka (LaCrosse), Taylor Kohlway (LaCrosse)
Lakeshore: Ben Messenger (Oshkosh), Joe Pavlovich (Oshkosh), Nic Barnes (LaCrosse)
Wisconsin Rapids: Zach Carlson (Stout), Nick Prebelski (Point), Kyle McHugh (Point), Bobby Gregorich (Point)
Wisconsin: Alex Cordova (LaCrosse)

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 29, 2014, 04:27:50 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 29, 2014, 04:21:05 PM


WIAC players in the Northwoods League:

Eau Claire: Brady Burzynski (Stout)
Green Bay: Matt Sabel (Oshkosh), Luke Watson (Point), Mikole Pierce (WW), Jimmy Coady (Point)
LaCrosse: Ben Cejka (LaCrosse), Taylor Kohlway (LaCrosse)
Lakeshore: Ben Messenger (Oshkosh), Joe Pavlovich (Oshkosh), Nic Barnes (LaCrosse)
Wisconsin Rapids: Zach Carlson (Stout), Nick Prebelski (Point), Kyle McHugh (Point), Bobby Gregorich (Point)
Wisconsin: Alex Cordova (LaCrosse)

Is this the same league that Vodenlich coaches in? I thought I heard he coaches somewhere during the off season?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 29, 2014, 06:56:37 PM
He coached the Lakeshore team during it's first season a couple of years ago but I don't think he's coached in the league since then. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 29, 2014, 09:09:02 PM
Is Jp not playing due to his potential high round draft status or to rest his arm?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jackson5 on May 29, 2014, 11:45:41 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on May 29, 2014, 04:19:16 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 29, 2014, 03:42:02 PM
I don't necessarily think that size matters that much, but it is more about what kind of academic $$ are available, plus other local dynamics.  Certainly in Wisconsin the lack to good D1 programs have an impact. If I was from Wisconsin, I would want to get the He11 out of dodge and go play some place more hospitable to baseball (weather wise of course), but that is coming from a West Coast warm weather perspective.  I have no idea on the academic $$ availability from those schools, but seems to me that would have a larger impact than size. It is not how many are in your pool of players, but who you have attracted to play for you. Certainly facilities impact this.

If you look at the size of the recent CWS winners they have enrollments of (approx) 2,220, 1,450, 10,300 (St Thomas) and 2,160.

Well said. Enrollment size only really matters in (public) high school. Where athletes are picked from your school's enrollment. However, in college, athletes are recruited prior to enrolling.

I know we keep alluding to this, but a perfect example is Mount Union's and Whitewater's football programs. Both our outstanding football programs with completely different enrollments.

Budget sizes are completely different between large and small schools. Much easier to raise 100K to pay a coach or bring in new equipment when you have 10K students and 50K alumns to draw from than 2K students and 10K alumns. Mount Union is good in football, but none of their other sports are national powers because they have to put all their eggs into the football basket. It's not the fact that Whitewater can randomly draw 100 good football players, 13 basketball players and 30 baseball players from their 10K students that gives them the advantage. It's that its much easier for them to draw the funds needed to support their teams compared to the average D-3 school.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jackson5 on May 29, 2014, 11:54:15 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 29, 2014, 03:28:33 PM
Division III is one-quarter state schools. This year, state schools have won one-quarter of all of the Division III national championships. (One championship, rowing, has yet to be awarded, but no state schools qualified.)

Here's the stat that tells you who truly dominates Division III. Over the past five years, all of the state schools combined have won 26 titles. In the same span, one D-III conference, the NESCAC, has won 24. Half of the rowing field is NESCAC schools, so we may see that increase to 25 this weekend.

Over the past 18 years, 23.5% of national titles have been won by state schools.

The NESCAC is a different animal though. They are able to get the D-2 and very low D-1 caliber athletes that are academically gifted also because they can tell the kids that they are getting an elite education similar to one that they'd receive in the Patriot league. It's the same reason that St. Thomas is dominant. I have less problem with a school dominating because of that instead of just being able to outspend like a large school like Whitewater can.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 30, 2014, 12:33:59 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on May 29, 2014, 11:54:15 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 29, 2014, 03:28:33 PM
Division III is one-quarter state schools. This year, state schools have won one-quarter of all of the Division III national championships. (One championship, rowing, has yet to be awarded, but no state schools qualified.)

Here's the stat that tells you who truly dominates Division III. Over the past five years, all of the state schools combined have won 26 titles. In the same span, one D-III conference, the NESCAC, has won 24. Half of the rowing field is NESCAC schools, so we may see that increase to 25 this weekend.

Over the past 18 years, 23.5% of national titles have been won by state schools.

The NESCAC is a different animal though. They are able to get the D-2 and very low D-1 caliber athletes that are academically gifted also because they can tell the kids that they are getting an elite education similar to one that they'd receive in the Patriot league.

The WIAC is able to get the D-2 and very low D-1 caliber athletes because they can tell the kids they are getting the same education they would at most D-I schools but that they also have a chance to win a national title.

Not much difference.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 30, 2014, 12:37:00 AM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 29, 2014, 03:42:02 PM
I don't necessarily think that size matters that much, but it is more about what kind of academic $$ are available, plus other local dynamics.  Certainly in Wisconsin the lack to good D1 programs have an impact. If I was from Wisconsin, I would want to get the He11 out of dodge and go play some place more hospitable to baseball (weather wise of course), but that is coming from a West Coast warm weather perspective.  I have no idea on the academic $$ availability from those schools, but seems to me that would have a larger impact than size. It is not how many are in your pool of players, but who you have attracted to play for you. Certainly facilities impact this.

If you look at the size of the recent CWS winners they have enrollments of (approx) 2,220, 1,450, 10,300 (St Thomas) and 2,160.

Stick with full-time undergraduates -- the 4,000 part-time and graduate students at St. Thomas are really not relevant to athletics.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 30, 2014, 08:05:24 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on May 29, 2014, 11:45:41 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on May 29, 2014, 04:19:16 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 29, 2014, 03:42:02 PM
I don't necessarily think that size matters that much, but it is more about what kind of academic $$ are available, plus other local dynamics.  Certainly in Wisconsin the lack to good D1 programs have an impact. If I was from Wisconsin, I would want to get the He11 out of dodge and go play some place more hospitable to baseball (weather wise of course), but that is coming from a West Coast warm weather perspective.  I have no idea on the academic $$ availability from those schools, but seems to me that would have a larger impact than size. It is not how many are in your pool of players, but who you have attracted to play for you. Certainly facilities impact this.

If you look at the size of the recent CWS winners they have enrollments of (approx) 2,220, 1,450, 10,300 (St Thomas) and 2,160.

Well said. Enrollment size only really matters in (public) high school. Where athletes are picked from your school's enrollment. However, in college, athletes are recruited prior to enrolling.

I know we keep alluding to this, but a perfect example is Mount Union's and Whitewater's football programs. Both our outstanding football programs with completely different enrollments.

Budget sizes are completely different between large and small schools. Much easier to raise 100K to pay a coach or bring in new equipment when you have 10K students and 50K alumns to draw from than 2K students and 10K alumns. Mount Union is good in football, but none of their other sports are national powers because they have to put all their eggs into the football basket. It's not the fact that Whitewater can randomly draw 100 good football players, 13 basketball players and 30 baseball players from their 10K students that gives them the advantage. It's that its much easier for them to draw the funds needed to support their teams compared to the average D-3 school.

I've been to many small private DIII schools, and from what I can see there's little problem with funding. There's some excellent facilities out there, both public and private. I'm not buying that private schools can't hang dollar for dollar with public schools. The big difference is allocation of money. Some private schools don't consider athletics as important as other private schools, so their facilities lack. so instead their funds are given to a new liberal arts building or something. Then you have a schools like St. Thomas, North Central, etc. that are serious about athletics, and their facilities are some of the best in DIII. Almost forgot about Mary Hardin-Baylor (private)...their new football stadium would rival some DI facililties. Good God is that stadium huge!!!

That's not really true about Mount Union (you're probably just looking at the football, baseball and basketball). In fact, Mount just became national champs in men's track and field last week. Many Mount fans have told me that their Track team has been solid for the past 40+ years.

This isn't high school....college teams don't draw their athletic players from their student population. They recruit before students enroll...just like every other collegiate sport at any level. It's not dumn luck that the best DIII football talent just happens to enroll at Mount Union every year? Of course not, they are heavily influenced to come to Mount out of high school to play football for the purple raiders.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 30, 2014, 08:58:33 AM
Quote from: emma17 on May 29, 2014, 11:20:16 AM
Spence - you're obviously a well-researched guy so I applaud you for your detailed reasoning.
If I was a spiter I'd ding you for both your poor timing and your unwillingness to acknowledge other points of view- especially from Just Bill (great posts).
I disagree with you that Marketing Presence doesn't play in D3. Do you really think Mt Union doesn't have a Marketing Presence advantage over just about every D3 football school?

I did say that if anyone does, it's Mount Union. That said, I still think it's pretty small beyond the success they have as a program. I don't think that being on TV a maximum of one time a year makes that big a difference. I think their championships and their track record makes a MUCH bigger one.

The point is that Duke can be a small school and thrive in basketball because basketball for one requires fewer players and resources anyway, and for another because they're on TV more than pretty much any college program in the country. That kind of leverage is non-existent in D3.

With Notre Dame, as many advantages as they've always had, even they're starting to feel the effects of so many resources being devoted to football now. They're not in the top 10 in athletic department revenue anymore and the on-field product in the last couple of decades doesn't match their reputation. And except Stanford, pretty much everyone with enrollment below 11,000 is struggling in college football, while most of the largest schools (except commuter schools that are in mid major leagues) are among the top programs. So even at that level, yes it makes a difference.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 30, 2014, 09:00:04 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 29, 2014, 11:55:22 AM
Whitewaters facilities are unbelievable if I were a senior looking to play d3 id go there in a hearbeat.

If all you're looking for is athletics, I suppose so.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 30, 2014, 09:07:02 AM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on May 30, 2014, 08:05:24 AM
This isn't high school....college teams don't draw their athletic players from their student population. They recruit before students enroll...just like every other collegiate sport at any level.

You can say it all you want, it's not going to make it true.

Student population and school size and budget size leads to a larger budget to recruit those students before they enroll. Not everyone has the same amount of money in their budget.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 30, 2014, 10:01:25 AM
Quote from: Spence on May 30, 2014, 09:07:02 AM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on May 30, 2014, 08:05:24 AM
This isn't high school....college teams don't draw their athletic players from their student population. They recruit before students enroll...just like every other collegiate sport at any level.

You can say it all you want, it's not going to make it true.

Student population and school size and budget size leads to a larger budget to recruit those students before they enroll. Not everyone has the same amount of money in their budget.

You're right, not many schools can budget for 15 men's sports like some private schools can.

This "poor us" attitude from some private schools is getting tiring. Especially when (like Pat said), over 3 quarters of all DIII championships have been won by private schools over the past 18 years. Which is proportionate to the amount of public/private schools there are in DIII.

I think we'll have to agree to disagree...which is usually the case with these private/public debates. Have a good weekend Spence, thanks for making these boards interesting the past few days.  :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 30, 2014, 11:50:19 AM
Didn't hear much complaining about public schools when the private schools were winning six consecutive national titles, including Spence's alma mater winning two of them.

According to the most recent figures each school submits to the U.S. government to comply with federal law, Marietta spent $87,709 on baseball and Whitewater spent $83,512 for the 2012-13 season.

http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/GetOneInstitutionData.aspx
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jackson5 on May 30, 2014, 11:55:59 AM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on May 30, 2014, 08:05:24 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on May 29, 2014, 11:45:41 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on May 29, 2014, 04:19:16 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 29, 2014, 03:42:02 PM
I don't necessarily think that size matters that much, but it is more about what kind of academic $$ are available, plus other local dynamics.  Certainly in Wisconsin the lack to good D1 programs have an impact. If I was from Wisconsin, I would want to get the He11 out of dodge and go play some place more hospitable to baseball (weather wise of course), but that is coming from a West Coast warm weather perspective.  I have no idea on the academic $$ availability from those schools, but seems to me that would have a larger impact than size. It is not how many are in your pool of players, but who you have attracted to play for you. Certainly facilities impact this.

If you look at the size of the recent CWS winners they have enrollments of (approx) 2,220, 1,450, 10,300 (St Thomas) and 2,160.

Well said. Enrollment size only really matters in (public) high school. Where athletes are picked from your school's enrollment. However, in college, athletes are recruited prior to enrolling.

I know we keep alluding to this, but a perfect example is Mount Union's and Whitewater's football programs. Both our outstanding football programs with completely different enrollments.

Budget sizes are completely different between large and small schools. Much easier to raise 100K to pay a coach or bring in new equipment when you have 10K students and 50K alumns to draw from than 2K students and 10K alumns. Mount Union is good in football, but none of their other sports are national powers because they have to put all their eggs into the football basket. It's not the fact that Whitewater can randomly draw 100 good football players, 13 basketball players and 30 baseball players from their 10K students that gives them the advantage. It's that its much easier for them to draw the funds needed to support their teams compared to the average D-3 school.

I've been to many small private DIII schools, and from what I can see there's little problem with funding. There's some excellent facilities out there, both public and private. I'm not buying that private schools can't hang dollar for dollar with public schools. The big difference is allocation of money. Some private schools don't consider athletics as important as other private schools, so their facilities lack. so instead their funds are given to a new liberal arts building or something. Then you have a schools like St. Thomas, North Central, etc. that are serious about athletics, and their facilities are some of the best in DIII. Almost forgot about Mary Hardin-Baylor (private)...their new football stadium would rival some DI facililties. Good God is that stadium huge!!!

That's not really true about Mount Union (you're probably just looking at the football, baseball and basketball). In fact, Mount just became national champs in men's track and field last week. Many Mount fans have told me that their Track team has been solid for the past 40+ years.

This isn't high school....college teams don't draw their athletic players from their student population. They recruit before students enroll...just like every other collegiate sport at any level. It's not dumn luck that the best DIII football talent just happens to enroll at Mount Union every year? Of course not, they are heavily influenced to come to Mount out of high school to play football for the purple raiders.

Once again, the size issue has nothing to do with being able to draw from the general student body. It's the funding. Yeah you have some exceptions, the NESCAC's and some other schools who have huge endowments and happen to have the desire to put money into sports.  But the truth is that Whitewater has a huge advantage over other schools by having 10K students to draw funding from and pack their huge stadium in football and have support for their other sports.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 30, 2014, 12:51:55 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 30, 2014, 11:50:19 AM
Didn't hear much complaining about public schools when the private schools were winning six consecutive national titles, including Spence's alma mater winning two of them.

According to the most recent figures each school submits to the U.S. government to comply with federal law, Marietta spent $87,709 on baseball and Whitewater spent $83,512 for the 2012-13 season.

http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/GetOneInstitutionData.aspx

It's tracking money and not sources of money. I don't particularly think the government needs to know that and so that's fine, but I'm really sure it's not a direct flow of funds and the school is not allocating nearly 88k to baseball game day expenses (another issue is that it's game day expenses, but there's nothing better in the data really since they combined everything not basketball or football). I also notice that UW-W's total athletic spend is almost double Marietta's.

I don't really feel like it's appropriate to pat anyone in particular on the back because it's an effort of so very many people a lot of whom never put on a uniform (I wish I had a dollar for every time Don Schaly said that), but Marietta is in no way a typical case. I hope I didn't need to tell anyone that, and I hope Marietta's championship success continues to skew these numbers. :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 30, 2014, 12:55:47 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 30, 2014, 11:50:19 AM
Didn't hear much complaining about public schools when the private schools were winning six consecutive national titles, including Spence's alma mater winning two of them.

According to the most recent figures each school submits to the U.S. government to comply with federal law, Marietta spent $87,709 on baseball and Whitewater spent $83,512 for the 2012-13 season.

http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/GetOneInstitutionData.aspx

does that consist of coaching salaries?  field maintenance? recruiting budgets? travel costs? all of the above? or miscellaneous items?

would be interesting to know, but I am fully aware that we never really will. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 30, 2014, 01:10:48 PM
There are separate categories on the site (I had to go back to /athletics/ and then navigate) pertaining to coach salaries and recruiting budgets. I think there are some discrepancies in how the recruiting reporting is handled, but whatever.

I think the biggest unaccounted for piece though related to this discussion is where the funding comes from. You probably know more about that than I do.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 30, 2014, 03:26:45 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 30, 2014, 12:51:55 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 30, 2014, 11:50:19 AM
Didn't hear much complaining about public schools when the private schools were winning six consecutive national titles, including Spence's alma mater winning two of them.

According to the most recent figures each school submits to the U.S. government to comply with federal law, Marietta spent $87,709 on baseball and Whitewater spent $83,512 for the 2012-13 season.

http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/GetOneInstitutionData.aspx

It's tracking money and not sources of money. I don't particularly think the government needs to know that and so that's fine, but I'm really sure it's not a direct flow of funds and the school is not allocating nearly 88k to baseball game day expenses (another issue is that it's game day expenses, but there's nothing better in the data really since they combined everything not basketball or football). I also notice that UW-W's total athletic spend is almost double Marietta's.

I don't really feel like it's appropriate to pat anyone in particular on the back because it's an effort of so very many people a lot of whom never put on a uniform (I wish I had a dollar for every time Don Schaly said that), but Marietta is in no way a typical case. I hope I didn't need to tell anyone that, and I hope Marietta's championship success continues to skew these numbers. :)

Makes sense since UW-W has almost double the athletic programs to support.

Wow...then there's the NESCAC schools, that nearly equal to UW-W and Marietta combined.

Interesting website, but there's a handful of schools missing (i.e St. Johns)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 30, 2014, 06:05:25 PM
NESCAC schools are mostly (universally?) academically very strong, turn out a lot of great alums that obviously value their experience and donate back to the school.

There's been a much needed and overdue building boom at Marietta over the last 15 years, athletic and otherwise, but almost all of it has been funded by alumni donations or seed money provided by lead donors.

I don't think the difference between UWW and MC's budgeting is a matter of programs to support; it's a matter of programs that its cash flow can support.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 30, 2014, 07:12:43 PM
Did u guys here about magic Johnson?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 30, 2014, 09:30:06 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on May 30, 2014, 03:26:45 PM
Quote from: Spence on May 30, 2014, 12:51:55 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 30, 2014, 11:50:19 AM
Didn't hear much complaining about public schools when the private schools were winning six consecutive national titles, including Spence's alma mater winning two of them.

According to the most recent figures each school submits to the U.S. government to comply with federal law, Marietta spent $87,709 on baseball and Whitewater spent $83,512 for the 2012-13 season.

http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/GetOneInstitutionData.aspx

It's tracking money and not sources of money. I don't particularly think the government needs to know that and so that's fine, but I'm really sure it's not a direct flow of funds and the school is not allocating nearly 88k to baseball game day expenses (another issue is that it's game day expenses, but there's nothing better in the data really since they combined everything not basketball or football). I also notice that UW-W's total athletic spend is almost double Marietta's.

I don't really feel like it's appropriate to pat anyone in particular on the back because it's an effort of so very many people a lot of whom never put on a uniform (I wish I had a dollar for every time Don Schaly said that), but Marietta is in no way a typical case. I hope I didn't need to tell anyone that, and I hope Marietta's championship success continues to skew these numbers. :)

Makes sense since UW-W has almost double the athletic programs to support.

Wow...then there's the NESCAC schools, that nearly equal to UW-W and Marietta combined.

Interesting website, but there's a handful of schools missing (i.e St. Johns)

St. John's isn't subject to Title IX regulations, for obvious reasons, and does not have to file a report.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: John Gleich on May 31, 2014, 12:36:18 AM
Quote from: Spence on May 28, 2014, 02:39:05 PM
"I'm sure if a school wanted to make the leap they could do it,"

This is the only part of your statement that matters. They haven't done it because they don't want to; they'd rather be big fish in a small pond.

Grand Valley State is one of the top D-II programs in the country (won the Directors Cup each year between 2004-2011 and were 2nd in 2002 & 2003 and 2012 & 2013. But a few years ago, they showed the reasons WHY they remained D-II instead of D-I.

You can read it here:

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/grva/genrel/auto_pdf/selgod2_09.pdf

This lays out what it takes to jump from D-II to D-I.


Jumping from D-III to D-II would be a similar jump and it's an institutional choice. The D-III model is ingrained in the WIAC and that's part f why the conference has had the success that it has had.


But the fact of the matter is that the same reason why GVSU isn't going D-I is why the WIAC isn't going D-II.

1. Institutional philosophy; and
2. How much money the school wants to spend on intercollegiate athletics


Where do you think this money is going to come from? Remember, it isn't just Men's Basketball or Baseball that is going to need to get scholarships... Football will as well and that means a slew of women's sports will get scholarships as well. And even now, in a program like UWSP basketball, which is typically in the top 5 or 6 in the country in attendance, doesn't even make up operating costs as it is WITHOUT scholarships. Where's the $$ going to come from? Even if everything else remained as they are now, UWSP would be in the top 30 in MBB attendence. There isn't much higher they can go.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 31, 2014, 03:32:48 AM
Quote from: John Gleich on May 31, 2014, 12:36:18 AM
Quote from: Spence on May 28, 2014, 02:39:05 PM
"I'm sure if a school wanted to make the leap they could do it,"

This is the only part of your statement that matters. They haven't done it because they don't want to; they'd rather be big fish in a small pond.

Grand Valley State is one of the top D-II programs in the country (won the Directors Cup each year between 2004-2011 and were 2nd in 2002 & 2003 and 2012 & 2013. But a few years ago, they showed the reasons WHY they remained D-II instead of D-I.

You can read it here:

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/grva/genrel/auto_pdf/selgod2_09.pdf

This lays out what it takes to jump from D-II to D-I.

Wow that was really all a load of ridiculousness. They really overstate the travel case considering there are several midwestern leagues for which GVSU could be a fit. Their real problem sounds like they didn't invest in the football program, update facilities, etc. when Kelly was there. I'm amazed that they characterize their facility as below par even for D-II. If they had updated, they might be in better shape to make a move. The MAC would be the natural D-I fit for them, geographically, and I don't think it's out of their price range. But if they want to think small time and be small time, whatever. They still don't stick out in D-II as far as size/funding sources goes as much as the big public schools do in D-III.

Jumping from D-III to D-II would be a similar jump and it's an institutional choice. The D-III model is ingrained in the WIAC and that's part f why the conference has had the success that it has had.

The WIAC is really just a confederation of schools. There's nothing inherent about the WIAC that makes it only compatible with D-III...and hell the way it's looking, it is expressly incompatible with D-III since they're about to lose their automatic bid. Entire conferences have moved up and down before.

Where do you think this money is going to come from? Remember, it isn't just Men's Basketball or Baseball that is going to need to get scholarships... Football will as well and that means a slew of women's sports will get scholarships as well. And even now, in a program like UWSP basketball, which is typically in the top 5 or 6 in the country in attendance, doesn't even make up operating costs as it is WITHOUT scholarships. Where's the $$ going to come from? Even if everything else remained as they are now, UWSP would be in the top 30 in MBB attendence. There isn't much higher they can go.

As long as you think that way, that will surely be true. As for your other questions, get someone to contract with me to do some market research and maybe I'll answer them. :)

I actually think it would be a really smart idea for a D-III UW state school to move up. It would differentiate them from UW-everyone else. It would be particularly interesting if La Crosse did it since they have the strongest academics by a pretty significant margin. Would probably all hinge on whether they could play the politics to get the funding to grow with the move.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 31, 2014, 09:24:21 AM
"As long as you think that way, that will surely be true."

LMAO  :D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AO on May 31, 2014, 10:58:36 AM
Quote from: John Gleich on May 31, 2014, 12:36:18 AM
Quote from: Spence on May 28, 2014, 02:39:05 PM
"I'm sure if a school wanted to make the leap they could do it,"

This is the only part of your statement that matters. They haven't done it because they don't want to; they'd rather be big fish in a small pond.

Grand Valley State is one of the top D-II programs in the country (won the Directors Cup each year between 2004-2011 and were 2nd in 2002 & 2003 and 2012 & 2013. But a few years ago, they showed the reasons WHY they remained D-II instead of D-I.

You can read it here:

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/grva/genrel/auto_pdf/selgod2_09.pdf

This lays out what it takes to jump from D-II to D-I.


Jumping from D-III to D-II would be a similar jump and it's an institutional choice. The D-III model is ingrained in the WIAC and that's part f why the conference has had the success that it has had.


But the fact of the matter is that the same reason why GVSU isn't going D-I is why the WIAC isn't going D-II.

1. Institutional philosophy; and
2. How much money the school wants to spend on intercollegiate athletics


Where do you think this money is going to come from? Remember, it isn't just Men's Basketball or Baseball that is going to need to get scholarships... Football will as well and that means a slew of women's sports will get scholarships as well. And even now, in a program like UWSP basketball, which is typically in the top 5 or 6 in the country in attendance, doesn't even make up operating costs as it is WITHOUT scholarships. Where's the $$ going to come from? Even if everything else remained as they are now, UWSP would be in the top 30 in MBB attendence. There isn't much higher they can go.
I would answer nearly every question with what about North Dakota State?  The same arguments were used in Fargo to oppose their move to D1.  Look at em now look at em now
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jackson5 on May 31, 2014, 02:40:14 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 29, 2014, 03:28:33 PM
Division III is one-quarter state schools. This year, state schools have won one-quarter of all of the Division III national championships. (One championship, rowing, has yet to be awarded, but no state schools qualified.)

Here's the stat that tells you who truly dominates Division III. Over the past five years, all of the state schools combined have won 26 titles. In the same span, one D-III conference, the NESCAC, has won 24. Half of the rowing field is NESCAC schools, so we may see that increase to 25 this weekend.

Over the past 18 years, 23.5% of national titles have been won by state schools.

You guys are focusing on public versus private but the issue is more of size. In the past 20 years in the four major sports, baseball, basketball, football and lacrosse, 36 of the 80 champions have had undergraduate enrollments of 7,100 or greater, or 45%. Now does 45% of Division 3 schools have 7,000 undergrads or greater? And that's just champions, if you take into consideration schools that finish in the final 8 or 4 teams remaining, you'll see that the number of large schools in those spots will greatly outnumber the small schools.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 31, 2014, 03:23:41 PM
Focusing on just four major sports for your analysis is so contrary to the Division III philosophy that I can't even describe it. And lumping football, with one dominant large school in, is just as bad a sample as if I chose to look at only swimming and decide that the NCAC is too powerful. :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jackson5 on May 31, 2014, 03:44:27 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 31, 2014, 03:23:41 PM
Focusing on just four major sports for your analysis is so contrary to the Division III philosophy that I can't even describe it. And lumping football, with one dominant large school in, is just as bad a sample as if I chose to look at only swimming and decide that the NCAC is too powerful. :)

Well actually, football had the lowest number. In the last 20 years, it's just been whitewater 5 times and LaCrosse once.  Baseball has had 7 times, Basketball is 11 and Lacrosse is 12. But I understand why Football is a poor sample size because Whitewater has dominated it, which is why I included the other sports.

And the truth is that no one cares about swimming or track and field or field hockey. The only reason that Lacrosse was chosen is because college is the only level that it gains any interest in. So there's no reason to look at a sport like field hockey and say "See See a small school can win that!" isn't saying much because there's not really any interest in it or reason for an average school to put money into that sport to try to excel in it. And having a strong swimming program doesn't really give a reason for a school to move up to D-1 as they can just move up in that individual sport if they wanted to anyways and if they did go D-1 in all sports and only excelled in that then the move would be pointless.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jackson5 on May 31, 2014, 03:54:30 PM
Quote from: John Gleich on May 31, 2014, 12:36:18 AM
Quote from: Spence on May 28, 2014, 02:39:05 PM
"I'm sure if a school wanted to make the leap they could do it,"

This is the only part of your statement that matters. They haven't done it because they don't want to; they'd rather be big fish in a small pond.

Grand Valley State is one of the top D-II programs in the country (won the Directors Cup each year between 2004-2011 and were 2nd in 2002 & 2003 and 2012 & 2013. But a few years ago, they showed the reasons WHY they remained D-II instead of D-I.

You can read it here:

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/grva/genrel/auto_pdf/selgod2_09.pdf

This lays out what it takes to jump from D-II to D-I.


Jumping from D-III to D-II would be a similar jump and it's an institutional choice. The D-III model is ingrained in the WIAC and that's part f why the conference has had the success that it has had.


But the fact of the matter is that the same reason why GVSU isn't going D-I is why the WIAC isn't going D-II.

1. Institutional philosophy; and
2. How much money the school wants to spend on intercollegiate athletics


Where do you think this money is going to come from? Remember, it isn't just Men's Basketball or Baseball that is going to need to get scholarships... Football will as well and that means a slew of women's sports will get scholarships as well. And even now, in a program like UWSP basketball, which is typically in the top 5 or 6 in the country in attendance, doesn't even make up operating costs as it is WITHOUT scholarships. Where's the $$ going to come from? Even if everything else remained as they are now, UWSP would be in the top 30 in MBB attendence. There isn't much higher they can go.

The main issues in this story is cost, landing place, and facilities.

Landing place: Whitewater could easily go to the Missouri Valley for football, and Horizon league for all sports. For football all the schools would be in the midwest with them in Indiana, Iowa and Illinois except for the Dakota and Missouri state and Youngstown State.

Facilities: Whitewater has a 11K seat football stadium already that draws 6,500 a game. Put them at D-1 against real competition and they'll be able to draw more casual fans and get that average up to 8-9K consistently. If they have success then they can easily expand their stadium up to 18-20K over time. Their basketball gym is alittle small at 2,500 but there's plenty of NEC and MAAC schools whose gyms aren't much larger and some are smaller. Once again, put them against D-1 competition and they'll gain more of a casual following and be able to sell that out to.  And their baseball stadium is already nicer than many low D-1 schools.

Cost: That will be an issue. The scholarships will be expensive but like I mentioned earlier at 10K undergrads they have a large enough pool of students and alumns to draw funding from. The issue for them will be petitioning to the State to allow for them offer scholarships and be D-1.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 31, 2014, 04:41:00 PM
This just in from the "things the WIAC PR department didn't tell you"...the town of River Falls has banned public vomiting.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 31, 2014, 11:12:02 PM
Let us know when you're done, Spence.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 01, 2014, 12:04:06 AM
Quote from: Spence on May 31, 2014, 04:41:00 PM
This just in from the "things the WIAC PR department didn't tell you"...the town of River Falls has banned public vomiting.

Would you suggest that they promote it?   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 01, 2014, 12:24:47 AM
Anyone have any idea if point is getting any solid pitching recruits or transfers next year?  It's looking like they will have a ton of bats but nowhere near the pitching depth they had this year.  In a perfect world Jp would return for senior year but I doubt that happens. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on June 01, 2014, 12:33:05 AM
Quote from: jackson5 on May 31, 2014, 03:54:30 PM
Quote from: John Gleich on May 31, 2014, 12:36:18 AM
Quote from: Spence on May 28, 2014, 02:39:05 PM
"I'm sure if a school wanted to make the leap they could do it,"

This is the only part of your statement that matters. They haven't done it because they don't want to; they'd rather be big fish in a small pond.

Grand Valley State is one of the top D-II programs in the country (won the Directors Cup each year between 2004-2011 and were 2nd in 2002 & 2003 and 2012 & 2013. But a few years ago, they showed the reasons WHY they remained D-II instead of D-I.

You can read it here:

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/grva/genrel/auto_pdf/selgod2_09.pdf

This lays out what it takes to jump from D-II to D-I.


Jumping from D-III to D-II would be a similar jump and it's an institutional choice. The D-III model is ingrained in the WIAC and that's part f why the conference has had the success that it has had.


But the fact of the matter is that the same reason why GVSU isn't going D-I is why the WIAC isn't going D-II.

1. Institutional philosophy; and
2. How much money the school wants to spend on intercollegiate athletics


Where do you think this money is going to come from? Remember, it isn't just Men's Basketball or Baseball that is going to need to get scholarships... Football will as well and that means a slew of women's sports will get scholarships as well. And even now, in a program like UWSP basketball, which is typically in the top 5 or 6 in the country in attendance, doesn't even make up operating costs as it is WITHOUT scholarships. Where's the $$ going to come from? Even if everything else remained as they are now, UWSP would be in the top 30 in MBB attendence. There isn't much higher they can go.

The main issues in this story is cost, landing place, and facilities.

Landing place: Whitewater could easily go to the Missouri Valley for football, and Horizon league for all sports. For football all the schools would be in the midwest with them in Indiana, Iowa and Illinois except for the Dakota and Missouri state and Youngstown State.

Facilities: Whitewater has a 11K seat football stadium already that draws 6,500 a game. Put them at D-1 against real competition and they'll be able to draw more casual fans and get that average up to 8-9K consistently. If they have success then they can easily expand their stadium up to 18-20K over time. Their basketball gym is alittle small at 2,500 but there's plenty of NEC and MAAC schools whose gyms aren't much larger and some are smaller. Once again, put them against D-1 competition and they'll gain more of a casual following and be able to sell that out to.  And their baseball stadium is already nicer than many low D-1 schools.

Cost: That will be an issue. The scholarships will be expensive but like I mentioned earlier at 10K undergrads they have a large enough pool of students and alumns to draw funding from. The issue for them will be petitioning to the State to allow for them offer scholarships and be D-1.

Not. Going. To. Happen.  ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on June 01, 2014, 03:23:54 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 31, 2014, 11:12:02 PM
Let us know when you're done, Spence.

Just reporting facts. :) Did think it was pretty funny timing, though.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: emma17 on June 02, 2014, 09:40:14 AM
This is a fantastic article, sums up the UWW rise. 
http://host.madison.com/sports/college/state-and-regional/whitewater/tom-oates-uw-whitewater-s-three-national-titles-a-special/article_0c36f12d-2bd3-508a-bb83-3cafa4e197f9.html (http://host.madison.com/sports/college/state-and-regional/whitewater/tom-oates-uw-whitewater-s-three-national-titles-a-special/article_0c36f12d-2bd3-508a-bb83-3cafa4e197f9.html)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on June 02, 2014, 09:55:48 AM
Quote from: emma17 on June 02, 2014, 09:40:14 AM
This is a fantastic article, sums up the UWW rise. 
http://host.madison.com/sports/college/state-and-regional/whitewater/tom-oates-uw-whitewater-s-three-national-titles-a-special/article_0c36f12d-2bd3-508a-bb83-3cafa4e197f9.html (http://host.madison.com/sports/college/state-and-regional/whitewater/tom-oates-uw-whitewater-s-three-national-titles-a-special/article_0c36f12d-2bd3-508a-bb83-3cafa4e197f9.html)

He nailed it on the head: Facilities, location and taking advantage of limited DI and DII programs in the state. Plus it's refreshing to hear the coaches getting some well deserved credit as well.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on June 02, 2014, 11:20:43 AM
I think it's a very fair article. It touches on some of the same "advantages" I've mentioned but just doesn't really get into the nature of them. Which I understand, only so many column inches in print. It's also a week late, as the article itself notes. The article is basically a rewrite of the NY Times piece with a nod to the WIAC thrown in.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/31/sports/wisconsin-whitewater-is-a-ncaa-division-iii-champion-in-three-sports.html?hpw&rref=sports&_r=0

This is the NY Times article. The first thing that jumps out at me is the 1 in 38 million "odds" statement is ridiculous and stupid. Heck at worst you have to say UW-Whitewater had like 40% chance of winning in football. Maybe 60%, whatever, point is the same. I'd say a more realistic number that doesn't assume every team has an equal chance (which they don't) is more like 1 in 500ish -- 1/2 in football, 1/20 in basketball, 1/15 in baseball? Maybe the odds are even lower than that.

The NYT article only gets six paragraphs before talking about UWW's size. But neither article dares talk about the other reason the WIAC is what it is, and hence the competition is what it is. The facilities bit stems in part from being a large public school that can draw on resources.

None of the rest of the stuff mentioned would really matter if they weren't a big fish in a small pond that can recruit basically whoever they want in-state at a state-subsidized discount. It would surprise me if some strategists in the school aren't thinking about how to move up.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 02, 2014, 11:33:29 AM
Yawn
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on June 02, 2014, 01:59:05 PM
Emory vs. UW-Whitewater Championship (full game) (http://www.ncaa.com/video/playlists/sports/baseball/d3%20)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 02, 2014, 02:29:35 PM
Quote from: Spence on June 02, 2014, 11:20:43 AM
It would surprise me if some strategists in the school aren't thinking about how to move up.

Your wishful thinking doesn't make it so. I know you're new to the conversation but there isn't anything that hasn't been said many times in the past decade, so can we stop beating this dead horse again?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on June 02, 2014, 03:02:01 PM
Wishful thinking? Hardly. The last time Marietta ran into a supposed unbeatable WIAC juggernaut, they beat Jordan Zimmerman on the way to the title in 2006.

I'm basically past really caring about it from a "good of D3 perspective" because I think looking at it from a "good for Whitewater" perspective is a lot more interesting.

If no one at Whitewater is thinking about how to make the school better through athletics (which seems to be their main chess piece right now), then someone should be fired. Someone has to be getting paid to be thinking like that and the investments they've already made suggest someone is. It may not actually happen that they move up, but someone should certainly be looking at the option.

With Milwaukee now out of its growth stage, its even a better idea to compete directly with them. Basically same academic profile. Not like Milwaukee is a real destination city, either. No real impediments to growth at Whitewater either other than capital (obviously). Plenty of room, not tough to get to raw land. To me, that's your real competition if you're UWW as a university.

Just interesting to think of how many different ways it makes sense considering the Warhawks here that are swearing up and down that it doesn't and couldn't happen and shouldn't happen.

Clearly it *could*. And the more one looks at it, the more it would make sense. So really it's just giving UWW leadership the benefit of doubt to say that someone probably is at least thinking about it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 02, 2014, 03:37:51 PM
The Pope "could" become a Lutheran too. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on June 02, 2014, 07:52:35 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on June 02, 2014, 03:37:51 PM
The Pope "could" become a Lutheran too.

If that's all you've got, then you've got nothing.

But hell, I'd take what I said as a compliment; I'm saying I think Whitewater could make in D-I.

Seems to be the people here that don't think very much of it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 02, 2014, 08:05:18 PM
All I know is whitewater is so dominant in football that its kind of boring.  Whitewater definitely has recruiting advantage with location and I think its showing more than ever.  The talent in this state overall is in southern wisconsin.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on June 02, 2014, 10:36:21 PM
Quote from: Spence on June 02, 2014, 07:52:35 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on June 02, 2014, 03:37:51 PM
The Pope "could" become a Lutheran too.

If that's all you've got, then you've got nothing.

But hell, I'd take what I said as a compliment; I'm saying I think Whitewater could make in D-I.

Seems to be the people here that don't think very much of it.

It seems to me your compliment is a bit back-handed. It doesn't sound like you are complimenting UW-W for their accomplishments as much as you are saying, "With all those advantages, they could, should, and might move up to a higher division".  I think what you are missing (from UW-W fans' perspective) is that higher division does not mean better.  As you know, the non-scholarship athlete that attends a D3 school is a very special kid. They play for the love of the game, they are true student-athletes, and they possess a certain humility that seems to be more and more lacking in kids at the higher levels.  Pouring resources into scholarships, doubling and tripling travel times to games, and leaving a conference they have been affiliated with for 100 years will not "make the school better" in my opinion.  If you talk to the athletes who have participated in athletics at UW-W over the last 5 decades, they will tell you that being a part of UW-W has been instrumental in helping them to be successful in life.  It seems to me, UW-W is accomplishing their mission just fine. 

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on June 02, 2014, 10:52:27 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on June 02, 2014, 08:05:18 PM
All I know is whitewater is so dominant in football that its kind of boring.  Whitewater definitely has recruiting advantage with location and I think its showing more than ever.  The talent in this state overall is in southern wisconsin.

So are most of the people. Kind of like Canada. :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on June 02, 2014, 11:01:06 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on June 02, 2014, 10:36:21 PM
Quote from: Spence on June 02, 2014, 07:52:35 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on June 02, 2014, 03:37:51 PM
The Pope "could" become a Lutheran too.

If that's all you've got, then you've got nothing.

But hell, I'd take what I said as a compliment; I'm saying I think Whitewater could make in D-I.

Seems to be the people here that don't think very much of it.

It seems to me your compliment is a bit back-handed. It doesn't sound like you are complimenting UW-W for their accomplishments as much as you are saying, "With all those advantages, they could, should, and might move up to a higher division".  I think what you are missing (from UW-W fans' perspective) is that higher division does not mean better.  As you know, the non-scholarship athlete that attends a D3 school is a very special kid. They play for the love of the game, they are true student-athletes, and they possess a certain humility that seems to be more and more lacking in kids at the higher levels.  Pouring resources into scholarships, doubling and tripling travel times to games, and leaving a conference they have been affiliated with for 100 years will not "make the school better" in my opinion.  If you talk to the athletes who have participated in athletics at UW-W over the last 5 decades, they will tell you that being a part of UW-W has been instrumental in helping them to be successful in life.  It seems to me, UW-W is accomplishing their mission just fine.

You're right, I'm not complimenting anyone. I'm looking at it from an inside view -- thinking "if I worked for Whitewater, what would I think would help Whitewater prosper, improve, grow". In that, it seems Milwaukee is the primary competitor with Whitewater for students in the southern and southeastern parts of the state primarily, and secondarily statewide.

To me what North Dakota State did this is even more impressive -- national championship in football, NCAA D1 tournament in basketball and baseball -- in North Dakota. Not exactly a hotbed for any of those sports. That's what D1 gets you, exposure outside your local area. NDSU could never have had that kind of success in D-II. By the way, NDSU has a pretty comparable enrollment to UW-Whitewater.

No reason Whitewater couldn't do something similar to what NDSU has.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on June 03, 2014, 10:12:45 AM
Quote from: Spence on June 02, 2014, 11:01:06 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on June 02, 2014, 10:36:21 PM
Quote from: Spence on June 02, 2014, 07:52:35 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on June 02, 2014, 03:37:51 PM
The Pope "could" become a Lutheran too.

If that's all you've got, then you've got nothing.

But hell, I'd take what I said as a compliment; I'm saying I think Whitewater could make in D-I.

Seems to be the people here that don't think very much of it.

It seems to me your compliment is a bit back-handed. It doesn't sound like you are complimenting UW-W for their accomplishments as much as you are saying, "With all those advantages, they could, should, and might move up to a higher division".  I think what you are missing (from UW-W fans' perspective) is that higher division does not mean better.  As you know, the non-scholarship athlete that attends a D3 school is a very special kid. They play for the love of the game, they are true student-athletes, and they possess a certain humility that seems to be more and more lacking in kids at the higher levels.  Pouring resources into scholarships, doubling and tripling travel times to games, and leaving a conference they have been affiliated with for 100 years will not "make the school better" in my opinion.  If you talk to the athletes who have participated in athletics at UW-W over the last 5 decades, they will tell you that being a part of UW-W has been instrumental in helping them to be successful in life.  It seems to me, UW-W is accomplishing their mission just fine.

You're right, I'm not complimenting anyone. I'm looking at it from an inside view -- thinking "if I worked for Whitewater, what would I think would help Whitewater prosper, improve, grow". In that, it seems Milwaukee is the primary competitor with Whitewater for students in the southern and southeastern parts of the state primarily, and secondarily statewide.

To me what North Dakota State did this is even more impressive -- national championship in football, NCAA D1 tournament in basketball and baseball -- in North Dakota. Not exactly a hotbed for any of those sports. That's what D1 gets you, exposure outside your local area. NDSU could never have had that kind of success in D-II. By the way, NDSU has a pretty comparable enrollment to UW-Whitewater.

No reason Whitewater couldn't do something similar to what NDSU has.

I'm sure Whitewater appreciates your concern, but I think the current administration has things pretty much under control.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: emma17 on June 03, 2014, 11:28:04 AM
Spence
I don't mind having the discussion about moving up in division, however I want to understand why you think it's better for Whitewater to move up.
You suggest they can "prosper and grow". Are you referring to the university, the city or both?
Why do you feel UWW is looking to prosper and grow beyond where they are at?  Don't confuse that last question w UWW not wanting to improve.  You seem to be taking the concept of continuous improvement to a different level- matching UWW vs Milwaukee in some sort of battle to be the #2 dog.
Isn't it possible that the UW system is pleased w the current structure?

Don't get me wrong, from an entertainment value perspective it would be a blast to see UWW move up and play big time competition w national exposure and espn game day crews.
But for what reason other than entertainment?  Dollars? That's a loooong term commitment and one that directly impacts UW Madison.
What are the reasons UWW would want to move up?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on June 03, 2014, 01:24:53 PM
Simply put, because it would make them more competitive with Milwaukee, and the more common choice over Oshkosh, Stevens Point, etc. It's a leg up.

I don't know why you wouldn't be wanting to prosper and grow (either in numbers or in $$ or in application volume -- translating to one of the other two most likely). Pleased and standing pat are two different things.

Nothing Whitewater does is going to make much difference for Madison. Whitewater could be D-I and it would hardly matter. They don't offer what Madison offers.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: emma17 on June 03, 2014, 01:49:42 PM
Again- why do you feel the UW system (we are talking more than just UWW here) thinks its in the best interest of the state of Wisconsin to have UWW be more competitive w Milwaukee and be the choice over other state schools?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on June 03, 2014, 03:41:29 PM
Not a relevant question. We're talking about Whitewater.

Is there some reason you think it would be a net negative to the state for Whitewater to be a more competitive school?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on June 04, 2014, 08:37:27 AM
Quote from: Spence on June 03, 2014, 01:24:53 PM
Simply put, because it would make them more competitive with Milwaukee, and the more common choice over Oshkosh, Stevens Point, etc. It's a leg up.


Not a relevant question? Spence... you are talking in circles.You brought up the Whitewater vs Milwaukee item and then when someone returned to it, you brushed it aside as meaningless. Which is it?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on June 04, 2014, 07:54:07 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on June 04, 2014, 08:37:27 AM
Quote from: Spence on June 03, 2014, 01:24:53 PM
Simply put, because it would make them more competitive with Milwaukee, and the more common choice over Oshkosh, Stevens Point, etc. It's a leg up.


Not a relevant question? Spence... you are talking in circles.You brought up the Whitewater vs Milwaukee item and then when someone returned to it, you brushed it aside as meaningless. Which is it?

Huh? The question was about what the UW system "thinks" (as if there would be one single opinion on that). That's not a relevant question unless someone wants to make the case that Whitewater being more competitive would be a net negative to the system somehow.

Politics being what it is, there may well be more supporters of UWM in the state government than UWW (more voters in Milwaukee). But the board of regents isn't very Milwaukee-centric at all, and I imagine if they sanctioned a move the state legislature would go along with it. And the Board of Regents would have no reason not to sanction it.

Hence...not a relevant question.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 04, 2014, 11:25:19 PM
Let's focus on who point is going to have left to pitch next year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: emma17 on June 05, 2014, 02:02:21 AM
Spence
If you want to be taken seriously you should at least respect the other posters and give benefit of the doubt. IMO there is great relevance to what the UW system (meaning the board of the regents) thinks. Isn't it possible the board feels the WI University system is now set up in such a way that it best meets the needs of the people of the state?  If it's possible they feel the system is optimal for the needs of the state, then isn't it possible they wouldn't allow an individual school like UWW to act in a way that disrupts the system?
If the above is possible, then it's absolutely relevant to ponder the question of UWW moving up in division from the perspective of the board of regents.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AO on June 05, 2014, 08:14:51 AM
Quote from: emma17 on June 05, 2014, 02:02:21 AM
Spence
If you want to be taken seriously you should at least respect the other posters and give benefit of the doubt. IMO there is great relevance to what the UW system (meaning the board of the regents) thinks. Isn't it possible the board feels the WI University system is now set up in such a way that it best meets the needs of the people of the state?  If it's possible they feel the system is optimal for the needs of the state, then isn't it possible they wouldn't allow an individual school like UWW to act in a way that disrupts the system?
If the above is possible, then it's absolutely relevant to ponder the question of UWW moving up in division from the perspective of the board of regents.
I don't remember the board of regents having a lot of say or interest in Superior's move?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on June 05, 2014, 08:16:24 AM
One issue I could foresee if UWW moved to D2 (or even D1) is that it would leave the WIAC short of the required number for Pool A bids. (Understanding that UW-Superior just did this same thing to the UW athletic system). What might be good for  (or the UW system as a whole) might come at the expense of the others who remained in D3.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on June 05, 2014, 09:35:47 AM
Quote from: AO on June 05, 2014, 08:14:51 AM
Quote from: emma17 on June 05, 2014, 02:02:21 AM
Spence
If you want to be taken seriously you should at least respect the other posters and give benefit of the doubt. IMO there is great relevance to what the UW system (meaning the board of the regents) thinks. Isn't it possible the board feels the WI University system is now set up in such a way that it best meets the needs of the people of the state?  If it's possible they feel the system is optimal for the needs of the state, then isn't it possible they wouldn't allow an individual school like UWW to act in a way that disrupts the system?
If the above is possible, then it's absolutely relevant to ponder the question of UWW moving up in division from the perspective of the board of regents.
I don't remember the board of regents having a lot of say or interest in Superior's move?

Boom. That would seem to pretty much be the end of that argument.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on June 05, 2014, 10:10:17 AM
There is a big difference to the Board of Regents between a school moving D3 to D3, which involves limited change in institutional values and moving divisions, which involves a big difference in athletic values and dollar allocations.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 05, 2014, 01:14:07 PM
2014 WARHAWKS in the WIAC record book:

Wins: 44...2nd  (2005 team: 45)

Hitting:
At bats: 1767...6th
Runs: 446...9th
Hits: 604...4th
2B: 120...New WIAC Record (previous: 113)
3B: 27...New WIAC Record  (previous: 22)
RBI: 405...9th
Stolen bases: 105...4th
BB: 211...T6th

Pitching:
Strikeouts: 318...12th
Innings pitched: 440...4th

Fielding:
Fielding %: .965...T14th
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on June 05, 2014, 01:14:59 PM
If it's that big a difference, why don't they make Parkside move to D3 to save the taxpayers money? Probably because it's not that big a difference.

Well that and if there's one thing the UW system seems to be good at, it's misusing money.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on June 05, 2014, 01:20:24 PM
Spence- is there anything, other than exactly what Marietta has done in the past and will likely do in the future, that you enjoy about D3 athletics?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on June 05, 2014, 03:50:37 PM
Yes, of course. I was annoyed when John Feinstein wrote The Last Amateurs because I was like "um, no they aren't".

Just because there are things I dislike doesn't mean I dislike the whole thing.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 07, 2014, 02:35:44 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on June 01, 2014, 12:24:47 AM
Anyone have any idea if point is getting any solid pitching recruits or transfers next year?  It's looking like they will have a ton of bats but nowhere near the pitching depth they had this year. In a perfect world Jp would return for senior year but I doubt that happens.
Will be interesting to see if he signs now that the Indians took him in the 16th round....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on June 07, 2014, 06:15:34 PM
Quote from: cubs on June 07, 2014, 02:35:44 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on June 01, 2014, 12:24:47 AM
Anyone have any idea if point is getting any solid pitching recruits or transfers next year?  It's looking like they will have a ton of bats but nowhere near the pitching depth they had this year. In a perfect world Jp would return for senior year but I doubt that happens.
Will be interesting to see if he signs now that the Indians took him in the 16th round....

Feyereisen offered 80K plus the rest of his schooling paid for if he signs....unfortunately, we won't see him as a Senior at Point.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 07, 2014, 06:55:19 PM
Congrats to Jp that is awesome and on top of it he was drafted ahead of Johnny football.  He obviously isn't coming back for senior year and hopefully will make it big time he's been fun to watch when he's been on.  Points staff is seriously in deep trouble for next year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on June 07, 2014, 08:08:32 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on June 07, 2014, 06:55:19 PM
Congrats to Jp that is awesome and on top of it he was drafted ahead of Johnny football.  He obviously isn't coming back for senior year and hopefully will make it big time he's been fun to watch when he's been on.  Points staff is seriously in deep trouble for next year.

Maybe....just once, don't overreact over every little thing.  Point has plenty of talent, let Bloom work his magic.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 08, 2014, 12:07:22 PM
Come on Tom he wouldn't be Shine if he did that.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 08, 2014, 09:17:51 PM
I don't think its crazy to be concerned about point losing virtually their entire pitching staff except Watson.  To top it off I'm not sure any of the guys on the roster are capable of doing what cam Jp max or stroik did the past four years.  I feel you have to have a minimum of 4 solid starters with two to three well above average guys.  Let's not forget anything other than a trip to appleton is a failure in points terms and bloom even stated that himself.  I just don't see where point is going to get 4 to 5 solid pitchers that can hold Wiac lineups in check.  Really sucks because the offense returns virtually everyone.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on June 09, 2014, 01:12:06 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on June 07, 2014, 06:15:34 PM
Feyereisen offered 80K plus the rest of his schooling paid for if he signs....unfortunately, we won't see him as a Senior at Point.

When I talked to Jared Washburn if he ever went back or thought about finishing his degree, the answer was no.

If Feyereisen is as successful at Washburn, he might not take advantage of the education benefit.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on June 09, 2014, 02:03:11 PM
I think many of the clubs bank on that. I am not sure how many players ever take advantage of this when it is offered, at any level.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 09, 2014, 02:41:28 PM
Washburn signed a four year $37 million contract with the Seattle Mariners in 2006.  Considering that  was late in his career, he was a second round draft pick and he had already been in the bigs 8 years at that point who needs a college degree.. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 10, 2014, 12:05:41 AM
Jp signed today article in stevens point journal.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 10, 2014, 09:59:28 AM
Good luck to him
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on June 10, 2014, 10:26:19 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on June 09, 2014, 02:03:11 PM
I think many of the clubs bank on that. I am not sure how many players ever take advantage of this when it is offered, at any level.

That is probably true, which makes it a great move by the club.  It is a great carrot to offer because it effectively neutralizes the attractiveness of the "go back to school" option and may well end up costing the club nothing.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on June 11, 2014, 09:17:55 AM
For drafted Jr's it is very manageable to finish their degrees by going to school for two fall semesters after graduation. Minor league ball is done early and starts late so they might be able to squeak in an online class here or there also. Many D1 programs that have a lot of kids drafted  encourage them to come back and get their degrees. It is good for the players and the NCAA graduation rate ranking, which is tracked. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on June 11, 2014, 02:25:38 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on June 11, 2014, 09:17:55 AM
For drafted Jr's it is very manageable to finish their degrees by going to school for two fall semesters after graduation. Minor league ball is done early and starts late so they might be able to squeak in an online class here or there also. Many D1 programs that have a lot of kids drafted  encourage them to come back and get their degrees. It is good for the players and the NCAA graduation rate ranking, which is tracked.

Having the option in the contract for finishing school modifies those who might complain about juniors being drafted and is a nod to the fact that most players use their parents as part of their decision and this gets mom and dad on board.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on August 26, 2014, 09:49:30 AM
Heard a report that UWO will be losing pitcher Joe Pavlovich this season. 

He turned a solid season in the Northwoods League with the Lakeshore Chinooks into a shot at the D1 level with UW Milwaukee.

I'm sure there will still be people blaming Lechnir's "coaching style" for this transfer as well!!!  ::)

Edit:  Here is a link confirming the transfer...
http://northwoodsleague.com/lakeshore-chinooks/2014/08/22/lakeshore-chinooks-tabbed-top-summer-collegiate-baseball-team-in-the-nation/
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on August 26, 2014, 10:21:03 AM
If I know the rules correctly, He will need to sit out a year. It was before my time following College baseball, but I believe the NWL was notorious for this type of thing amoung D3 coaches. Quite a few players from D3 schools would find there way onto D1 teams after playing in the Northwoods. At one point several schools did not want to send their players, because they were worried about them getting poached.
How do you think UWO, will spin this to recruits? Do you think they will sell recruits on the possibility of another shot at D1? Come play for us, if your good enough we can get you in this league. Then who knows, A D1 may become interested.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on August 27, 2014, 01:20:56 PM
Wonder if former All Conference OF Tom Lechnir will be participating?!?!?!?!   ;D

http://www.uwoshkoshtitans.com/sports/bsb/2014-15/releases/20140820toadnp
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on August 28, 2014, 11:49:06 AM
He should at least be managing the alumni team I'd think.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on August 28, 2014, 08:52:36 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on August 28, 2014, 11:49:06 AM
He should at least be managing the alumni team I'd think.
Fat chance....  Don't think you will EVER see him step foot in Alumni Stadium again, at least until Sims, Wells, and the rest of the crew are done at the university.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on August 28, 2014, 09:55:23 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on August 26, 2014, 10:21:03 AM
If I know the rules correctly, He will need to sit out a year. It was before my time following College baseball, but I believe the NWL was notorious for this type of thing amoung D3 coaches. Quite a few players from D3 schools would find there way onto D1 teams after playing in the Northwoods. At one point several schools did not want to send their players, because they were worried about them getting poached.
How do you think UWO, will spin this to recruits? Do you think they will sell recruits on the possibility of another shot at D1? Come play for us, if your good enough we can get you in this league. Then who knows, A D1 may become interested.

Many D-III's have the opposite problem. They want to get players into the Northwoods League, but a lot of NWL GMs think having too many D-III guys looks bad when you're trying to attract D-I talent.

I highly doubt any D-III school recruits themselves as a stepping stone to D-I. At least not one with an ounce of self-respect.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on September 23, 2014, 05:18:45 PM
Quote from: cubs on August 28, 2014, 08:52:36 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on August 28, 2014, 11:49:06 AM
He should at least be managing the alumni team I'd think.
Fat chance....  Don't think you will EVER see him step foot in Alumni Stadium again, at least until Sims, Wells, and the rest of the crew are done at the university.

I think Wells is almost gone.   I still alugh when I read all the "liberal arts" talk he started at UW-O.  I suspect his biggest achievement will be using the University money to build hotels and manure and garbage heat exchangers. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on September 28, 2014, 10:04:44 PM
Congrats to Jordan Zimmermann in a no-hitter for the Nationals.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on September 29, 2014, 10:44:10 PM
Quote from: cubs on August 27, 2014, 01:20:56 PM
Wonder if former All Conference OF Tom Lechnir will be participating?!?!?!?!   ;D

http://www.uwoshkoshtitans.com/sports/bsb/2014-15/releases/20140820toadnp
Looks like Alumni Day was canceled, as link is no longer "active." 

Just can't understand why there wouldn't be any interest from any of the alumni to participate!!!!   ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on November 28, 2014, 10:07:16 PM
So I was surfing the web. And back in 2009 when UW-Lacrosse almost dropped baseball, Karner said that would probably mean an emd to the WIAC tournament.
http://m.jsonline.com/more/sports/blogs/48072687.html
I have not heard this since Superior left for the UMAC. But does anybody think that the WIAC will do away with their tourney starting in 2018?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on December 05, 2014, 02:00:14 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on November 28, 2014, 10:07:16 PM
So I was surfing the web. And back in 2009 when UW-Lacrosse almost dropped baseball, Karner said that would probably mean an emd to the WIAC tournament.
http://m.jsonline.com/more/sports/blogs/48072687.html
I have not heard this since Superior left for the UMAC. But does anybody think that the WIAC will do away with their tourney starting in 2018?

I do believe that you need to have at least 7 teams in a conference to qualify for an AQ bid in baseball.  Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

As far as the WIAC goes, my guess is that they will/are efforting adding another school to take the place of UWS.  I doubt they will want to lose their AQ in baseball, or other sports if that is a possibility.  What are the qualifications to be included in the WIAC?  And what schools might be interested in joining if it was an option?  I wouldn't think too many athletics programs would be overly excited to jump into a conference with UWW, Point, LAX etc... but it is certainly interesting to ponder.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on December 05, 2014, 02:47:56 PM
You do need 7 teams to have an AQ, but the NCAA grants a two-year grace period when an AQ conference falls below seven members in a sport. So the WIAC would retain their AQ for at least two years after Superior leaves.

I suspect St. Norbert College would join right now in all sports if extended an invitation, but I don't think the WIAC is interested in another full member. Inviting a private school to be a full member would also be a dramatic shift of philosophy that I don't know if the WIAC members are ready to accept at this point.

I think they are searching for an associate member for just baseball. Probably Finlandia (already an associate WIAC member in men's soccer) would be willing, but I'm guessing the WIAC is hoping for a higher quality program than the Lions can provide.

The conference baseball tournament is mostly a matter of philosophy. Some leagues would say, if there's no prize (like an AQ bid) going to the winner than let's not do it. Others might see it as a necessary culmination to a conference season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 05, 2014, 04:00:50 PM
Would I be correct to say that a conference tourney might help the winner toward getting a pool B bid? I know the UAA has a tournament. It does not occur at the end of the season, so it is not the exact same thing.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on December 06, 2014, 11:46:06 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on December 05, 2014, 04:00:50 PM
Would I be correct to say that a conference tourney might help the winner toward getting a pool B bid? I know the UAA has a tournament. It does not occur at the end of the season, so it is not the exact same thing.

I think you mean pool C bid... pool B is for teams that are not a part of a conference that has an AQ.  If a team is on the edge of consideration for pool C and they have a strong showing in their tournament but do not win it, it could still certainly help their case for getting selected.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 06, 2014, 01:20:09 PM
No, I meant pool b. I was talking about when Superior  left, and two years later when the WIAC, would lose the AQ bid. They would then only qualify for a B or C.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on December 12, 2014, 11:32:17 AM
What about considering UW-Parkside. Any chance they'd want to leave D2 and become a D3 member (maybe for baseball only)?

Other than that, there are no other public school options for the WIAC to consider. UW-Milwaukee is D1 and U of Wisconsin does not have a baseball program at all. Any thought to Eau Claire resurrecting its program and rejoining the WIAC?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanBystander on December 12, 2014, 11:58:37 AM
BigPapa sparked a thought...How 'bout if UW-Madison converted it's club team into an NCAA D3 team and joined the WIAC?  I don't think it would have any title IX implications (but I'm not an expert there) and the cost would probably be roughly what the UW is spending to fund it's club team.  If it's a cost issue, then maybe Alvarez could donate his salary he's sure to pay himself for coaching the bowl game towards an entire season's worth of funding for baseball. ::)

Probably a million reasons why UW-Madison won't consider it, but I'm just trying to think out of the box here.
   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 12, 2014, 12:48:30 PM
D-1 or D2 schools cannot "play up" to D-3.  (   ;)  )
Select D-3 schools have been "grandfathered" in D-1/D-2 sports such as ice hockey, women's soccer (Colorado College) or lacrosse.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanBystander on December 12, 2014, 01:57:33 PM
"Play up"  - that's funny ;D. 

No, I thougth that different sports can play at different levels within the same school.  Maybe I'm wrong, but don't a lot of schools play D1 basketball but lower levels in other sports?  Couldn't UW play D1 in everything except baseball where they could "Play up"  ;) to D3? 

Not that it's going to happen, but is it even a possibility?

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on December 12, 2014, 04:14:06 PM
No, it's not possible anymore. For either the UW-Madison or UW-Parkside examples given.

It's informally called the "Dayton Rule". Schools have to go "all in" on whatever Division they choose to be in with only a few exceptions...
- Some D-III schools had teams in D-I or D-II that existed before this rule. Johns Hopkins lacrosse is a well-known example.
- If a championship doesn't exist at a certain level, a school may elevate that sport. For example St. Cloud State, Northern Michigan and Minnesota-Duluth are all D-II schools that play D-I men's ice hockey, because the NCAA does not sponsor a D-II hockey championship.

Occasionally D-III and D-II schools can play D-I in certain sports, but you can't take a scholarship school and make just one team D-III.

Quote
The 'Dayton Rule'

Dayton has had a long and illustrious football history at the Division I level, including a stint in what is now the Mid-American Conference and a bowl game appearance. In 1977, however, Dayton dropped to Division III in football but kept the rest of its athletic programs in Division I, including its highly successful men's basketball program.

Inadvertently, this made Dayton a Division III powerhouse. Once it abolished football scholarships it went 158-29-3 in Division III. From 1980 to 1992, Dayton qualified for the playoffs eight of 12 years, appearing in five Division III championship games and winning two. Although Dayton didn't offer athletic scholarships, it could offer other items such as Division I training facilities and tickets to see Dayton basketball games. 

As a result of this dominance and these differences that made D-III schools uncomfortable, the "Dayton Rule" was born. Essentially, it prevented schools to do what Dayton and others had done: namely, host a nonscholarship football team at the Division III level while maintaining the rest of its athletics program as Division I.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 12, 2014, 05:35:11 PM
+1 Just Bill beat me to it. I knew about the Dayton Rule, but did not have the detail you provided.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on December 13, 2014, 11:05:05 PM
One of the issues at Dayton was their scholarship track & field program paired with a non-scholarship football team. It didn't take long for the coaches to figure out that if they could find RBs and WRs that want to run sprints and linemen that wanted to throw the shot put, they could have some key players receiving track & field scholarships while playing non-scholarship football.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on January 14, 2015, 09:44:17 AM
UW-LaCrosse selected to host 2015 Mid-West Regional.  http://d3baseball.com/notables/2015/01/uwlx-to-host-regional

WHITEWATER'S Mikole Pierce (1st team), LaCrosse's Taylor Kohlway (1st team), Steven Point's Kyle McHugh (2nd team) and Luke Watson (honorable mention) were all selected to D3baseball.com's preseason All American team.  Ex-Titan Michael Polcyn (Ripon, 2nd team) was also selected.

http://d3baseball.com/awards/all-americans/d3baseball-preseason-allamericans-2015
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 04, 2015, 08:23:18 PM
Add another to the list of LHP's that played under Coach Lechnir and gone on to sign a professional contract.

Washburn, Taschner, Timm, and now Westphal

http://www.uwoshkoshtitans.com/sports/bsb/2014-15/releases/20150204yoxa7f

Btw-Couldn't happen to a better kid!!!!  Wasn't heavily recruited out of HS yet thanks to a lot of hard work he managed to fulfill a lifelong dream. 

Congrats Luke, and best of luck!!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on February 04, 2015, 10:09:22 PM
Is justin jirschele still in white soxs minor league system?  Who will be pitching for pointers this year besides Watson?  Seems like the offense will be loaded as ever but pitching may be a weak spot.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 07, 2015, 12:22:51 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 04, 2015, 10:09:22 PM
Is justin jirschele still in white soxs minor league system?  Who will be pitching for pointers this year besides Watson?  Seems like the offense will be loaded as ever but pitching may be a weak spot.
Yes, as far as I know Jirschele is still in the White Sox organization....

What if I said Watson isn't pitching for Point this season?  Would we see our annual Shinetime "flip out?"
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on February 07, 2015, 07:25:24 AM
Does that mean watsons not pitching? 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 11, 2015, 10:01:51 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 04, 2015, 10:09:22 PM
Who will be pitching for pointers this year besides Watson?
I am going to avoid saying anything else regarding Watson and the 2015 season for now.....

As far as who else will be pitching for the Pointers, my guess is Nick Prebelski will see the mound quite often, along with La Crosse transfer Mark Kowalke (sat out 2014 season.)  After that it will depend on how much the young kids developed over the summer (Williams, McHugh, etc..)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on February 11, 2015, 06:48:58 PM
We'll if Watson is indeed not playing I don't see point finishing top 3 in wiac even with that offense.  Anyone know for sure if he's indeed out?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 11, 2015, 09:11:50 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 11, 2015, 06:48:58 PM
We'll if Watson is indeed not playing I don't see point finishing top 3 in wiac even with that offense.  Anyone know for sure if he's indeed out?
And there is the over-reaction I expected....  Name three teams that will finish ahead of Point this season if Watson doesn't pitch an inning.  Whitewater, La Crosse and ??? 

Whoever it is, would need to make up at least FIVE games from the final 2014 standings.  Just don't see that happening!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on February 11, 2015, 10:34:41 PM
Oshkosh will have tough rotation messenger will make run for pitcher of year in wiac.  Sounds like point didn't address the catcher position and yes watsons done for year more than likely.  Does any program have worse luck than point with injuries?  Goes back to Coe then Hemstead koback Seidel and so on.  Looks like transfer from lacrosse will be tough then prebelski beau Williams mccugh and several others.  Love their offense but that pitching staff has a ton of questions.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 11, 2015, 11:12:52 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 11, 2015, 10:34:41 PM
Oshkosh will have tough rotation messenger will make run for pitcher of year in wiac.  Sounds like point didn't address the catcher position and yes watsons done for year more than likely.  Does any program have worse luck than point with injuries?  Goes back to Coe then Hemstead koback Seidel and so on.  Looks like transfer from lacrosse will be tough then prebelski beau Williams mccugh and several others.  Love their offense but that pitching staff has a ton of questions.
Who is going to pitch Games #2, #3, and #4 of the weekend series for UWO?

Pavlovich transferred to UWM, while Lacy and Sindles were seniors.  After that, they don't have a pitcher returning that finished with an ERA under 4.00. 

If you are so down on Point for what they return, I'm not sure how you can think UWO is in any better shape on when it comes to their rotation...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on February 12, 2015, 09:51:22 AM
The sky is falling.  Run chickenlittle, run.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 13, 2015, 08:17:06 AM
It's not baseball season until:
1. The groundhog does his thing (check)
2. Players transfer within the WIAC (check)
3. Shinetime falls apart regarding his Pointers (check)


* It's officially baseball season!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on February 13, 2015, 08:35:49 AM
I don't have a dog in this fight, but FWIW  I am hoping they stay in their region this year and we don't see them in the West again.

....and yes Big Poppa let's play some *baseball!


*here's hoping the MidWest and upper East digs out of this mess so they can!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 13, 2015, 09:25:36 AM
WIAC prediction(Many know it way better than I, so feel free to tear me apart):

1. Whitewater
2. Stevens Point
3. Lacrosse
4. Oshkosh
5. Superior
6. Stout
7. Platteville

Hammer away at it!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on February 13, 2015, 11:54:59 AM
Point is not finishing 2nd u heard it here first
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Westside on February 13, 2015, 12:22:34 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 13, 2015, 11:54:59 AM
Point is not finishing 2nd u heard it here first

That's bold. It will take a great year for them to take 1st and jump UWW. I like your confidence though.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on February 13, 2015, 01:43:36 PM
The meaning of ShineTime's comment more than likely indicates a lack of confidence rather than an over abundance of it. 

Lake Bachar, the WARHAWKS football team's punter, is also playing baseball this year.  Bachar is a pitcher who has reportedly been clocked in the low 90's.  While this will be his first year playing collegiate baseball it's my understanding that he has been playing summer baseball in Illinois.  I'm anxious to see if he can find a spot in the rotation.  With him and Austin Jones I would think that we'd have two of the harder throwers in the league. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on February 13, 2015, 09:43:15 PM
You are correct it's never good when you speak directly to a key player and they say we're going to need to score 10 or more a game to win.  I am highly concerned about pitching and the catcher position.  The staff last year made up for the unit behind the plate.  Obviously I feel points position players are outstanding everywhere else but in the end I don't see how point finishes top 2.  They finished 3rd last year with arguably their best pitching staff ever and same offense and return essentially nothing for pitching except prebelski and he was a closer not a starter.  Hopefully I'm wrong and point miraculously has dominant pitching.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on February 13, 2015, 10:39:07 PM
So word is lechnir was offered a nice settlement from Oshkosh and turned down.  Anyone hear how much he was offered I heard he's going for it all and hope he succeeds.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 13, 2015, 11:41:59 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 13, 2015, 10:39:07 PM
So word is lechnir was offered a nice settlement from Oshkosh and turned down.  Anyone hear how much he was offered I heard he's going for it all and hope he succeeds.
He doesn't know any other way!!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 18, 2015, 10:01:10 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on August 26, 2014, 10:21:03 AM
If I know the rules correctly, He will need to sit out a year.
No sitting out a year for Pavlovich, as he is a graduate student at UW Milwaukee, which means he gets to play immediately.

With that said, Pavlovich was unable to get out of the fourth inning in his debut with the Panthers.  Despite striking out six in 3.2 IP, he also walked five and gave up three hits in an 11-7 UWM victory over Maine.  It will be interesting to see how his season goes for UWM!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on February 22, 2015, 03:28:44 PM
Quote from: cubs on February 13, 2015, 11:41:59 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 13, 2015, 10:39:07 PM
So word is lechnir was offered a nice settlement from Oshkosh and turned down.  Anyone hear how much he was offered I heard he's going for it all and hope he succeeds.
He doesn't know any other way!!!!

What did they offer Tom?  A lifetime all sports pass to all Titan games? 

One idea would be to give him the land rights to the baseball field for the next 20 years so he could lease it back to UW-O.  Then he could lease it out to other teams as well all summer.  It would recognize his efforts to build it and also acknowledge the errors made by the UW-O leadership in attacking him over the field cost.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 23, 2015, 08:26:23 PM
Quote from: AppletonRocks on February 22, 2015, 03:28:44 PM
Quote from: cubs on February 13, 2015, 11:41:59 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 13, 2015, 10:39:07 PM
So word is lechnir was offered a nice settlement from Oshkosh and turned down.  Anyone hear how much he was offered I heard he's going for it all and hope he succeeds.
He doesn't know any other way!!!!

[What did they offer Tom?  A lifetime all sports pass to all Titan games? 

One idea would be to give him the land rights to the baseball field for the next 20 years so he could lease it back to UW-O.  Then he could lease it out to other teams as well all summer.  It would recognize his efforts to build it and also acknowledge the errors made by the UW-O leadership in attacking him over the field cost.
That's part of the problem!!!!

The entire Alumni Stadium project has been paid in full for nearly two years now....  It didn't matter about the cost!!!

When you have the lead construction manager from JJ Keller and the loan officer from the bank saying there is a "zero balance" yet the University says there is still an unpaid balance, it's easy to see the issue!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 24, 2015, 08:01:28 AM
I think Lechnir is due for a big settlement form the school in court.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 25, 2015, 09:57:49 AM
It will be interesting to see if Wautoma native Johnny Eagan is listed on the UWO baseball roster when it gets posted.  He earned a D1 Baseball scholarship to Northern Illinois out of high school, but then transferred to UWO this season where he played football in the fall.  The number of multi-sport athletes at UWO have been few and far between when it comes to baseball, but he definitely would be one that would help a lineup looking to replace some offensive firepower. 

If he is indeed playing, I'm guessing the coaching staff might be trying to convince him to get his younger brother at UWO as well.  (FAT CHANCE!!!!)  Jack is a 6'4 LHP who has been clocked in the low 90's who has already committed to Indiana before starting his junior year of high school.  There have been reports that he might be the type of kid that will have to decide between signing when he gets drafted or choosing to go to college.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on February 25, 2015, 10:01:13 PM
Eagan is a phenomenal baseball player saw him play a handful of times and he has a ton of speed.  Great athlete in general. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 09, 2015, 09:42:49 AM
The WARHAWKS schedule has been posted and includes Florida games against Framington State (Mass), William Paterson (NJ), Rowan (NJ), Rutgers-Camden (NJ), North Central (IL), Elmhurst (IL), a twin bill with St Thomas (MN) and Keuka (NY).  In addition to conference games double hitters are scheduled with Ripon (WI), St Scholastica (MN) and Concordia (WI).  Two of our opponents are currently ranked in the D3baseball.com Top 25 (St Thomas #2, Rowan #13).  The WARHAWKS open play March 19th. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 09, 2015, 08:49:13 PM
Is point posting their roster after the season begins this year?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 10, 2015, 06:45:27 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 09, 2015, 08:49:13 PM
Is point posting their roster after the season begins this year?

It's posted now, so have fun overreacting like normal.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 10, 2015, 10:03:10 PM
Thanks I went over this morning and like I said hopefully a top 3 offense in the nation can overcome a lack of proven pitching.  Looks like the kid from lacrosse central has potential but he did have tommy John surgery in 2013.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 10, 2015, 11:16:18 PM
While Beau is probably more well known for his football exploits around the WIAC, he is a very nice baseball player!!!  Beau and Kowalke could end up playing a BIG role on the mound for the Pointers.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 11, 2015, 06:46:49 PM
Was kind of shocked luke watson wasn't on roster I had heard he would be kept on and potentially could've pitched at some point also didn't see Clint rose anyone know where he's at
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 12, 2015, 09:56:51 AM
SIDs pick the WARHAWKS


1.  UW-Whitewater
2.  UW-La Crosse
3.  UW-Stevens Point
4.  UW-Stout
5.  UW-Oshkosh
6.  UW-Superior
7.  UW-Platteville


A couple of teams have already played games.  Stout is 3-1 with a pair of wins over Hamline and a split with Bethel.  Superior is 0-4 with a pair of losses to Bethel and Hamline. 

The 2015 WARHAWKS roster has been posted....
  http://www.uwwsports.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 12, 2015, 10:29:48 AM
Nothing like having a D1 lineup playing in the WIAC.  Hoping I'm way wrong and Point has some pitching but here's my predictions.

1.  Whitewater(By a landslide)
2.  La Crosse
3.  Stout
4.  Point
5.  Oshkosh
6.  Platteville
7.  Superior

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 12, 2015, 11:47:37 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 12, 2015, 10:29:48 AM
Nothing like having a D1 lineup playing in the WIAC.  Hoping I'm way wrong and Point has some pitching but here's my predictions.

1.  Whitewater(By a landslide)
2.  La Crosse
3.  Stout
4.  Point
5.  Oshkosh
6.  Platteville
7.  Superior

Go away
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 12, 2015, 12:31:44 PM
Put your predictions down then Point is predicted 3rd so I don't think me thinking 4th is that crazy.  Obviously I want Point to finish 1rst but were talking an entire pitching staff overhaul here in the best conference in the country.  I'll take great pitching over great hitting any day.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 12, 2015, 03:14:11 PM
Quote from: cubs on February 18, 2015, 10:01:10 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on August 26, 2014, 10:21:03 AM
If I know the rules correctly, He will need to sit out a year.
No sitting out a year for Pavlovich, as he is a graduate student at UW Milwaukee, which means he gets to play immediately.

With that said, Pavlovich was unable to get out of the fourth inning in his debut with the Panthers.  Despite striking out six in 3.2 IP, he also walked five and gave up three hits in an 11-7 UWM victory over Maine.  It will be interesting to see how his season goes for UWM!!!
Came across the box score from the UWM vs Milwaukee Brewers game out in Arizona earlier this spring...

Why do I bring it up? 

Well, Pavlovich pitched and faced Adam Lind, Khris Davis and Gerardo Parra.  He fared quite well, retiring all three in order.......  Striking out the side!!!!  Can't help but think that had to be quite the adrenaline rush!!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 12, 2015, 03:16:12 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 12, 2015, 09:56:51 AM
SIDs pick the WARHAWKS

1.  UW-Whitewater
2.  UW-La Crosse
3.  UW-Stevens Point
4.  UW-Stout
5.  UW-Oshkosh
6.  UW-Superior
7.  UW-Platteville
Can't say I am surprised...  They easily bring back the best combination of pitching/everyday line-up.  Also getting Matt Roberts back this season will only help add to their pitching depth.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 12, 2015, 03:17:18 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 11, 2015, 06:46:49 PM
Was kind of shocked luke watson wasn't on roster I had heard he would be kept on and potentially could've pitched at some point also didn't see Clint rose anyone know where he's at
He transferred to UWO as he wanted to play with Messenger again....   :o  :P  ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 12, 2015, 03:18:19 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 12, 2015, 10:29:48 AM
Nothing like having a D1 lineup playing in the WIAC.  Hoping I'm way wrong and Point has some pitching but here's my predictions.

1.  Whitewater(By a landslide)
2.  La Crosse
3.  Stout
4.  Point
5.  Oshkosh
6.  Platteville
7.  Superior
Change you mind already?  Last month you had Oshkosh finishing ahead of Point....   ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 12, 2015, 04:39:01 PM
Webster beats UWSP 3-2 in 11 innings in their season opener. Spetz and Hanke had three hits each.

http://data.iscorecentral.com/iscorecast/baseball/scorecast.html?g=50ecf128-a30c-4703-ae5a-a30b21d76fd1&dg=15b2985570e4444da7bf4fcd70ecae34e0a402a7

If this link brings you to an ID page enter: 15B29852A7

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 12, 2015, 04:59:36 PM
I hope the Watson thing is a joke.  Good to see Beau pitched well at least for Point today.  I am wondering if Point is going to go with 6 different catchers again this year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 12, 2015, 05:33:31 PM
I tried telling you Beau was going to be a nice contributor on the mound.... 

3 Runs in 11 innings for Point's pitchers?  Can't blame the pitching for this loss.  The offense did next to nothing!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 12, 2015, 08:09:05 PM
I didn't doubt u but kind of question why he didn't pitch at all his freshman year I believe he played 3rd.  Very disappointing day offensively from what the stats show.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 12, 2015, 08:31:21 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 12, 2015, 08:09:05 PM
I didn't doubt u but kind of question why he didn't pitch at all his freshman year I believe he played 3rd.  Very disappointing day offensively from what the stats show.
Probably because Point had some guys named Williams, Koback, Delorit and Iverson.  (That doesn't even count guys like Wendorf, Frederick, Fritz, and Seidl...)

Where was he going to see the mound?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 14, 2015, 12:01:47 AM
Looks like point got the bats going in a 11 4 win against Benedictine.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 14, 2015, 04:15:51 PM
Oshkosh falls to Carthage 4-1 in game one of today's DH in Kenosha.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 14, 2015, 08:53:40 PM
If messenger took the loss it would be 1 more loss than I expected on the season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 15, 2015, 06:39:13 PM
Point over southern Maine 11 to 9 nice win early on.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 17, 2015, 01:11:40 PM
Update thru 3/16

Stout: 5-1 ... A pair of wins over both Hamline and Edgewood.  A split with Bethel.
LaCrosse: 2-1 ... Wins over Eastern Connecticut and Washington & Jefferson.  A loss to Rowan.
Stevens Point: 3-2 ... Wins over Southern Maine and Benedictine.  A split with Anderson.  A loss to Webster.
Platteville: 1-3 ... A pair of losses to Bethel.  A loss to Coast Guard.  A win over McDaniel.
Superior: 1-5 ... A win over Illinois Institute of Technology.  A pair of losses to Bethel and Hamline.  A loss to Augusburg.
Oshkosh: 0-3 ... Three losses to Carthage.
WARHAWKS: 0-0 ... Opens play 3/20.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 17, 2015, 10:27:40 PM
I'm convinced stout is going to make some noise very good offense and some decent pitching.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 17, 2015, 10:32:42 PM
Point beat Rutgers Camden 11 to 4 Mitch beau picked up win.  Pointers improve to 4 and 2.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 18, 2015, 09:38:05 AM
Point has 19 errors on the season.  13 in the last three games.  That seems like kind of a lot though it is early in the season. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 18, 2015, 09:57:36 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 18, 2015, 09:38:05 AM
Point has 19 errors on the season.  13 in the last three games.  That seems like kind of a lot though it is early in the season.
It is, but I tend to forgive errors on northern teams in their first 10 games or so. Some teams haven't fielded a ball on grass and dirt until pre-game warm-ups. If the trend continues up north, then there may be a problem.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 18, 2015, 10:01:38 PM
Point defeats calvin 4 to 0. Freshman Ben miller goes 7 shutout innings and hanke hit 2nd home run.  Spetz is on fire right now.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BDB on March 19, 2015, 07:58:49 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 17, 2015, 10:27:40 PM
I'm convinced stout is going to make some noise very good offense and some decent pitching.

Stout has a coach now who seems to have a good long term view of things. With no programs in Eau Claire or River Falls the Blue Devils should be a strong team for any player that wants to go to school in this area.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 20, 2015, 06:12:05 PM
Talk about a pounding whitewater put up 22.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 21, 2015, 11:32:36 AM
WARHAWKS: 12
Framington State: 11

The WARHAWKS got on the board first when Mikole Pierce hit a two run home run in their first at bat.  However Framington put three runs on the board in the second and seven more in the fifth to lead comfortably 10-2.  The WARHAWKS deficit was reduced to three 10-7 in the fifth by RBI singles from Dane Burman and Nick Kuhlmann, two Framington fielding errors and when Mike Mierow was hit by a pitch.  A bases loaded walk and another Framington fielding error plated a pair in sixth cutting the deficit to 10-9.  Framington went back up by two with a run in the eighth but the WARHAWKS plated three runs with no outs in the bottom of the ninth when Burman double to drive in a pair and Kyle Haen's fielders choice score the winning run.

Pitching:
Curtis Morgan: 4 IP, 7 H, 7 R, 5 ER, 1 BB, 4 K
Andrew Lowe: 0.2 IP, 2 H, 4 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 2 K
Jon Olejniczak: 2.1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 1 K
Mike Normpleggi: (W)) 2 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 3 K

Hitting:
Mikole Pierce: 2x2, 3 RS, 2 RBI, HR
Casey Power: 2x4, 2 RS
Nick Kuhlmann: 1X3, 2 RS, 1 RBI
Dane Burman: 2x5, 3 RBI, DBL
Kyle Haen, Adam Gregory, Will Helbing, Mike Mierow: 1 RBI
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 21, 2015, 11:59:49 AM
WARHAWKS: 22
William Paterson: 1

The WARHAWKS jumped out on top with 8 runs in the top of the second.  Mike Mierow's triple plated a pair while RBI singles from Adam Gregory (2) and Kyle Haen drove in three more and Nick Kuhlmann's three run home run rounded out the scoring in the inning.  William Paterson answered with a solo home run in the bottom of the inning but the WARHAWKS put five more on the board in the top of the third.  Mierow opened the scoring when a wild pitch brought him home.  Mikole Pierce and Dane Burman each drove in a run with singles while Trey Cannon had an RBI triple and drove in a second run when he singled later in the inning.  Kuhlmann also had an RBI when he hit into a fielders choice.  Nine WARHAWKS runs ended the scoring in the fourth inning.  RBI singles by Cannon, Pierce, Gregory, Kuhlmann and Daytona Bryden led to five runs while Kyle Haen's RBI triple drove in three and Casey Powers fielders choice scored another.

Pitching:
Colin Grove: (W) 6 IP, 8 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 3 K;  Austin Finn: 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB

Hitting:
Kyle Haen: 3x3, 4 RS, 4 RBI, 3B; Trey Cannon: 2x2, 2 RS, 2 RBI, 3B; Daytona Bryden: 1x1, 1 RS, 1 RBI; Mikole Pierce: 2x4, 3 RS, 2 RBI; Casey Power: 2x4, 2 RS, 1 RBI; Adam Gregory: 2x3, 2 RS, 3 RBI; Nick Kuhlmann: 2x4, 1 RS, 5 RBI, HR; Dane Burman: 2x6, 1 RS, 1 RBI; Mike Mierow: 2x2, 4 RS, 2 RBI, 3B; Kyle Jones: 1x1, 2B
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 21, 2015, 01:34:02 PM
Rowan: 9
WARHAWKS:3

Rowan plated a run in the top of the second but the WARHAWKS answered in the bottom of the inning when Will Helbing singled driving in a pair.  Rowan quickly retook the lead win a pair of run in third and expanded on it with a run in the fifth, three in the sixth and another run in the seventh.  The WARHAWKS added a run in the eighth when Pierce hit a sacrifice fly.  Rowan rounded out the scoring with a single run in the ninth. 

Pitching:
Austin Jones: (L) 4 IP, 6 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 5 BB, 5 K; Donnie Manke: 1.2 IP, 5 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 0 BB, 2 K;  Lake Bachar: 3.1, 9 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 0BB, 5K.

Hitting:
Kyle Haen: 2x5, 1 RS, 2B; Dane Burman: 3x3, 1 RS; Nick Kuhlmann: 1x3, 1 RS; Daytona Bryden: 2x3; Will Helbing: 1x4, 2 RBI, 2B; Mikole Pierce: 1 RBI
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 21, 2015, 04:45:09 PM
WARHAWKS (3-1): 8
Rutgers-Camden: 7

The WARHAWKS drew first blood scoring a pair of runs in their first at bat on Casey Power's fielders choice and Adam Gregory's sacrifice fly.  Rutgers-Camden scored a run in the bottom of second but failed to tie the game when center fielder Daytona Bryden threw out the runner at the plate.  Kyle Haen's triple and Mikole Pierce's single each drove in runs putting the WARHAWKS up 4-1 in the fifth but Rutgers-Camden tied the game with three runs in the bottom of the innning and took a 5-4 lead in the sixth with a run.  The WARHAWKS regained the lead 8-5 in the seventh.  Haen and Pierce each had RBI singles, Casey Power doubled in a run and Adam Gregory's sacrifice fly accounted for the final run.  Rutgers-Camden scored single runs in seventh and eighth leaving two runners stranded in each inning but were retired 1-2-3 in the ninth.

Pitching:
Matt Roberts: 4.1 IP, 3 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 7 BB, 2 K; Matt Langlie: 1.2 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 2 K; Jon Olejniczak: (W), 2.2 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 2 K; Mike Nompleggi: (S), 1.1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 2 K.

Hitting:
Nick Kuhlmann: 2x3, 2 RS; Kyle Haen: 3x5, 3 RS, 2 RBI, 3B; Mikole Pierce: 3x5, 2 RS, 2 RBI; Casey Power: 3x4, 1 RS, 2 RBI, 2B; Adam Gregory: 1x2, 2 RBI, 2 SF;
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 22, 2015, 03:58:13 PM
WARHAWKS (4-1): 5
North Central: 3 
11 innings

North Central got on the board first with a single run in the bottom of the second inning and that run stood until the WARHAWKS scored a pair in the seventh.  Mike Mierow and Dan Burman hit back to back doubles for the first run and the second scored when Kyle Haen was hit by a pitch with the bases loaded.  The WARHAWKS added a third run in the eighth on a North Central throwing error that allowed Casey Power to score.  North Central tied the game with single runs in the eighth and ninth.  Kyle Jones led off the eleventh with an infield single and scored when Nick Kuhlmann tripled into the right-center field gap.  Another North Central throwing error allowed Kuhlmann to score making the score 5-3.  North Central had two runners on base in their at bat but one was picked off and the other stranded at second base when Donnie Manke got a strike out to end the game. 

Pitching: Heath Renz: 6 IP, 7 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 8 K; Curtis Morgan: 2 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 1 K; Mike Nompleggi (W 2-0): 2 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 1 K; Donnie Manke (S 1): 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 1 K.

Hitting: Nick Kuhlmann: 2x5, 1 RS, 1 RBI, 3B; Casey Power: 2x4, 1 RS; Mike Mierow: 1x3, 1 RS, 2B; Dane Burman: 1x4, 1 RS, 1 RBI, 2B; Kyle Haen: 1 RBI
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 24, 2015, 12:59:20 PM
Elmhurst: 3
WARHAWKS (5-1): 7

The WARAHWKS pushed 6 runs across in the bottom of the second inning to take control of the game.  Adam Gregory led off with single and after Mike Mierow and Dane Bryden successfully bunted for singles Kyle Jones was walked forcing in a run.  Nick Kuhlmann followed with an RBI single and Kyle Haen doubled in a pair.  Mikole Pierce was walked and Casey Power's single drove in another pair to close the scoring in the inning.  Elmhurst got on the board with a single run in the sixth on three hits and a WARHAWKS error.  That run was matched by the WARHAWKS in the bottom of the inning when Pierce's RBI triple scored Haen.  Elmhurst closed the scoring with a pair of runs in the seventh both scoring after two were out.

Pitching: Lake Bachar (W, 1-0): 6 IP, 6 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 10 K; Ankur Shah: 2 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB; Matt Langlie: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB
Bachar (2.89 ERA) has 12 Ks in 9.1 innings pitched.

Hitting: Nick Kuhlmann: 3x5, 1 RS, 1 RBI; Kyle Haen: 2 RS, 2 RBI, 2B; Mikole Pierce: 3x3, 1 RBI, 3B; Casey Power: 1x3, 2 RBI; Adam Gregory: 2x4, 1 RS; Dane Bryden: 2x4, 1 RS, 2B; Kyle Jones: 1 RBI
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 25, 2015, 02:47:08 PM
Game one:
WARHAWKS (6-1): 16
St Thomas: 5

Neither team was able to score in the first four frames as pitching dominated holding the two teams to a combined 4 hits.  The fifth inning however was a different story as the WARHAWKS offense put a five spot on the board. Daytona Bryden opened the scoring with an RBI triple and Casey Power's grand slam added four more.  The Tommies bottom fell out in the sixth inning as the WARHAWKS sent sixteen batters to the plate and scored eleven runs off three Tommy pitchers.  Bryden started things with an RBI single and Nick Kuhlmann followed with another single that drove in two more.  Kyle Haen doubled in a run and another run scored when Adam Gregory walked.  After Mike Mierow's fielders choice scored a run Will Helbing doubled in two more and Kuhlman hit a three run home run in his second at bat in the inning.  As a team the WARHAWKS had seven hits in the inning.  St Thomas got on the board with an RBI single in the sixth and added four more on another RBI single and a three run home run in the seventh.  Because the two teams were playing a double header the game was scheduled for seven innings.

Pitching:
Austin Jones: 1.2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 4 K; Curtis Morgan 9W 1-0): 5.1 IP, 8 H, 5 R, 5 ER, 2 BB, 3 K.

Hitting: Nick Kuhlmann: 3x5, 3 RS, 5 RBI, HR; Kyle Haen: 1x3, 2 RS, 1 RBI, 2B; Casey Power: 1x3, 2 RS, 4 RBI, HR; Dane Burman: 3x3, 3 RS, 2B; Will Helbing: 2x3, 1 RS, 2 RBI, 2B; Daytona Bryden: 2x2, 1 RS, 2 RBI, 3B;  Mike Mierow:  1 RS, 1 RBI; Adam Gregory:  1 RBI

Is Tyler Fiereisen related to Point's former pitcher?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 25, 2015, 04:49:39 PM
Game two:
St Thomas: 1
WARHAWKS (7-1): 3

The WARHAWKS struck early with a single run in the first inning.  Kyle Haen drew a walk, advance to second on a wild pitch and scored when Casey Power singled.  That run stood until the top of fifth when the Tommies strung together three hits and evened the score 1-1.  It didn't take long for the WARHAWKS to retake the lead however.  In the bottom of the inning Jordan Kuczynski opened the inning with a single.  When Kyle Haen's bunt was misplayed Kuczynski advanced to third on the error and both runners advanced, Kuczynski scoring, when that was followed by a wild pitch.  Casey Power's RBI single drove in Haen and staked the WARHAWKS to a 3-1 lead. That lead stood when Grove retired six of the last seven Tommies he faced.

Pitching: Colin Grove (W, 2-0): 7 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1ER, 1 BB, 5 K

Hitting: Jordan Kuczynski: 2x3, 1 RS; Mikole Pierce: 1x3, 1 RBI; Casey Power: 2x3, 1 RBI; Will Helbing: 1x3; Kyle Haen: 2 RS   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 26, 2015, 10:28:01 AM
Here is a video that will likely end up in the Jirschele Family archives!!!

http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/67608260/v54205783/cwskc-mike-and-justin-jirschele-exchange-lineups

Pretty cool if you ask me!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 26, 2015, 10:44:28 AM
That is pretty cool, cubs.  An incredibly special moment for the family.  And it sounds like Justin is moving up the minor league ladder.  Good luck to him. 

Thanks for providing the link. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 26, 2015, 02:51:45 PM
Keuka: 3
WARHAWKS (8-1): 11

The WARHAWKS concluded their spring trip to Florida with an 11-3 win over Keunka College.  Six runs in the first inning proved to be all the runs the WARHAWKS would need.  Daytona Bryden scored the first run on after he walked and stole both second and third before scoring on a fielding error.  Mike Mierow drove in two more with a double.  Steve Chamberlain drove in a pair with his single and Jordan Kuczynski closed the scoring with an RBI single.  Keuka got a single run in the third on 4 hits but the WARHAWKS increased their lead to 9-1 in the fourth with a solo home run from Mikole Pierce, an RBI single by Mierow and when a throwing error brought Adam Gregory home.  Keuka cut the deficit to 9-3 with a pair of runs on three hits in the fifth.  The WARHAWKS finished the scoring with solo runs in the seventh and eighth on sacrifice flys by Bryden and Gregory.

Pitching: Matt Roberts: 2 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 4 K;  Jon Olejieazk (W, 2-0): 2 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 4 K; Donnie Manke: 1 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB 0 K; Matt Langlie: 1 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER,  0 BB, 1 K; Ankur Shah: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K; Matt Normpleggi: 1.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 K; Andrew Lowe: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 0 K.

Hitting: Mikole Pierce: 2x5, 2 RS, 2 RBI, 2B, HR; Casey Power: 2x3, 2 RS, 2B; Adam Gregory: 2x4, 1 RS, 1 RBI; Mike Mierow: 2x5, 1 RS, 3 RBI, 2B; Steve Chamberlain: 3x4, 2 RS, 1 RBI; Jordan Kuczynski: 3x4, 1 RBI; Kyle Jones: 1 RS; Daytona Bryden: 1 RS, 1 RBI; Kyle Haen: 1 RS.

The WARHAWKS had seven stolen bases in the game. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 28, 2015, 07:45:04 PM
Point takes both games today from st Norbert by scores of 7 4 and 3 2. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 30, 2015, 08:48:03 PM
Game One:
St. Scholastica: 0
WARHAWKS (9-1): 4

Both teams were able to put runners in scoring position but neither could get the clutch hit to drive them in.  CSS left runners in scoring position in the second, sixth and seventh innings while the WARHAWKS had them in scoring position in the first, fourth, sixth and seventh.  Finally in the bottom of the eighth inning, following a pitching change, the WARHAWKS pushed all four of their runs across the plate.   A pair of walks prompted the Saints pitching change and Mikole Pierce promptly tripled driving in both runners.  Casey Power followed that with a two run home run to round out the scoring.  CSS loaded the bases with two outs in the ninth but Mike Nompleggi coaxed the final out on a line drive to center field. 

Pitching: Curtis Morgan: 5.2 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 2 K; Jon Olejnicak (W 3-0): 2.1 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 2 K; Heath Renz: 0.2, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 2 K; Mike Nompleggi (S-2): 0.1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 K.

Hitting: Mikole Pierce: 1x4, 1 RS, 2 RBI 3B; Casey Power: 1x3, 1 RS, 2 RBI, HR; Mike Mierow: 2x4, 2B; Will Helbing: 1x3, 2B; Daytona Bryden: 1 RS; Kyle Haen: 1 RS


Game Two:
St. Scholastica: 1
WARHAWKS (10-1): 4

CSS opened the scoring with a run in the first inning when a single was followed by an RBI double.  The WARHAWKS quickly tied the score in their first at bat when Casey Power singled driving in Kyle Haen who had singled and advanced to scoring position on a wild pitch.  The WARHAWKS threatened again in the third placing runners on second and third with one out but were unable to score and the game remained tied 1-1 until the bottom of the sixth.  A base on balls and hit batter put a runner in scoring position and Will Helbing drove in a run with a single.  With one out and the bases loaded Jordan Kuczynski's ground out to shortstop drove in a second run staking the WARHAWKS to 3-1 lead.  Mike Mierow's RBI in the seventh drove in the game's final run as CSS's last nine hitters were retired in order.

Pitching: Colin Grove (W 3-0): 7 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 6 K; Lake Bachar (S-1): 2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K.

HItting: Kyle Haen: 1x2, 1 RS; Casey Power: 1x3, 2 RS, 1 RBI; Adam Gregory: 2x4; Will Helbing: 2x4, 1 RBI; Jordan Kuczynski: 2x4, 1 RBI;

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 30, 2015, 09:59:10 PM
Here's a question how many games will whitewater lose in wiac this year?  I'm predicting 2 or less.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 02, 2015, 04:59:23 PM
Am I allowed to move Point up to 2nd now for my predictions?  Point thumps Stout 12-0 in game 1.  Of course Cubs was spot on and Beau is very capable number 1/2 pitcher.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 02, 2015, 09:05:56 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 02, 2015, 04:59:23 PM
Am I allowed to move Point up to 2nd now for my predictions?  Point thumps Stout 12-0 in game 1.  Of course Cubs was spot on and Beau is very capable number 1/2 pitcher.
So when are you going to start listening to me then?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 02, 2015, 09:10:59 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 14, 2015, 08:53:40 PM
If messenger took the loss it would be 1 more loss than I expected on the season.
Chalk up another loss for Messenger, as La Crosse sweeps Oshkosh today...

BTW-Name to keep an eye on?  Pitcher Caleb Boushley of La Crosse.  I remember watching him in high school and then wondered where he ended up going when I didn't see his name anywhere last season.  Appears he was at UW-Fox Valley before enrolling at La Crosse this season.

Point, Whitewater, and La Crosse all out to 2-0 WIAC starts, while Oshkosh, Superior and Stout all start 0-2...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 02, 2015, 10:09:31 PM
Boushley really gives lacrosse a solid 1 2 punch with cejka.  Point always seems to struggle with cejka.  Who will point throw out tomorrow I'm guessing prebelski and Erickson.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 02, 2015, 10:52:09 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 02, 2015, 10:09:31 PM
Boushley really gives lacrosse a solid 1 2 punch with cejka.  Point always seems to struggle with cejka.  Who will point throw out tomorrow I'm guessing prebelski and Erickson.
I would venture to guess McHugh and Erickson, with Miller in long relief and Walder in short relief if either Mchugh or Erickson go deep in their starts.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 03, 2015, 10:14:15 AM
Game One:

Superior: 1
WARHAWKS (11-1, 1-0): 9

Superior opened the scoring with a two out solo home run in their first at bat but the WARHAWKS answered that in the bottom of the inning when Mikole Pierce hit his first of three home runs on the day a two run shot to right.  Pierce drove in his third run of the game in the fifth with an RBI double putting the WARHAWKS on top 3-1.  Casey Power drove in the fourth WARHAWKS run in the seventh when he singled.  RBI singles by Kyle Jones, Daytona Bryden and a YellowJacket throwing error followed by Pierce's second two run home run accounted for five runs in the eighth and ended the scoring.

Pitching: Lake Bachar (W, 2-0): 7 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 5 K; John Olejniczak (S, 1): 2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 2 K.

Hitting: Daytona Bryden: 2x4, 3 RS, 1 RBI; Mikole Pierce: 3x5, 2 RS, 5 RBI, 2B, HR (2); Casey Power: 3x5, 1 RBI; Mike Mierow: 3x4, 1 RS; Kyle Jones: 1x2, 1 RS, 1 RBI; Alex Hallenbeck: 1x2, 1 RS, 2B.


Game Two:

Superior: 2
WARHAWKS (12-1, 2-0): 7

As was the case in game one Superior opened the scoring with a two out home run in their first at bat though on this occasion it came with a runner on base and staked them to a 2-0 lead.  The Yellow Jackets held that lead until the bottom of the fourth when the WARHAWKS strung together four hits highlighted by a RBI double by Casey Power that drove in a pair and an RBI single by Adam Gregory that drove in another run putting the WARHAWKS on top 3-2.  The WARHAWKS increased their lead to 5-2 with a pair of runs in the sixth on Mikole Pierce's third home run of the day and added two more in the seventh scoring on a pair of RBI fielders choice. 

Pitching: Heath Rentz (W, 1-0): 7 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 8 K; Andrew Lowe: 2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 3 K.

Hitting: Daytona Bryden: 1x3, 1 RS; Steve Chamberlain: 2x4, 2 RS, 1 RBI; Mikole Pierce: 2x4, 2 RS, 3 RBI, 2B, HR; Casey Power: 2x4, 1 RS, 2 RBI; Adam Gregory: 1x3, 1 RBI;
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 04, 2015, 10:42:24 AM
Game One:

Superior: 5
WARHAWKS (13-1, 3-0): 6

The WARHAWKS opened the scoring in the first inning when Steve Chamberlain scored from second on a throwing error off Mikole Pierce's infield grounder.  Pierce advanced to third on the error and scored when Casey Power singled up the middle to make the score 2-0.  The lead was expanded to 5-0 in the fourth on Kyle Haen's RBI single and a Chamberlain double that drove in a pair.  At this point it appeared the WARHAWKS] were on cruise control but the Yellow Jackets changed that quickly in the top of the fifth with a three run home run and after that it was anything but cruise control.  The WARHAWKS did get one of those runs back in the sixth when Chamberlain picked up his fourth RBI with a single.  After a pair of walks put Yellow Jacket runners on first and second in the seventh the WARHAWKS escaped without allowing a run by picking off the runner at second and rolling up a double play.  However the Yellow Jackets came right back in the eighth when they scored a run courtesy of a pair of walks and a throwing error cutting the lead to 6-4.  After two outs in their ninth inning the Yellow Jackets bunched a double and an infield single together and reduced the lead to a single run when they scored on another throwing error in a failed pick off attempt.  The game ended with an infield pop up with the tying run at third.

Pitching: Curtis Morgan (W, 2-0): 5.1 IP, 5 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 2 K; Ankur Shah: 1.2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 0 K; Matt Roberts: 0.1 IP, 0 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 0 K; Donnie Manke: 0.2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 K; Mike Nompleggi (S, 3): 1 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 K.

Hitting: Steve Chamberlain: 3x4, 1 RS, 3 RBI 2B; Adam Gregory: 2x4, 1 RS; Kyle Haen: 1x2, 2 RS, 1 RBI; Kyle Haen: 1 RS; Dane Burman: 2B; Casey Power: 1 RBI

Game Two:

Superior: 0
WARHAWKS (14-1, 4-0): 10

Things went much easier for the WARHAWKS in game two shortened by the run rule.  Adam Gregory led off the second inning with a triple and scored the first run on  Mike Mierow's ground out.  Casey Power's RBI single and another run on a passed ball pushed the lead to 3-0 in the third inning.  Five runs on six hits in the fifth made it 8-0.  Steve Chamberlain scored the first one on passed ball and Mikole Pierce scored the second on a wild pitch.  Kyle Jones drove in a pair with a single and Kevin White's fielders choice plated the fifth run.  The WARHAWKS added a ninth run in the sixth on another Yellow Jacket throwing error and Pierce's RBI single ended the game in the seventh with the bases loaded and no outs.

Pitching: Colin Grove (W, 4-0): 6 IP, 5 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K; Mike Langlie: 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K.

Hitting: Daytona Bryden: 2x4, 1 RS; Steve Chamberlain: 3x5, 2 RS 2B; Mikole Pierce: 2x3, 1 RS, 2 RBI;  Casey Power: 2x3, 2 RS, 1 RBI; Kyle Jones: 2x4, 2 RS, 1 RBI; Kyle Haen: 2x4; Adam Gregory: 1x4, 1 RS, 3B; Mike Mierow: 1x4, 1 RS; Kevin White: 1 RS
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2015, 08:39:10 PM
Game One:

WARHAWKS (15-1, 5-0): 8
Oshkosh: 0

Steve Chamberlain's RBI single in the top of third inning put the WARHAWKS first run on the scoreboard and three more were added in the fourth when Adam Gregory scored on a balk and Nick Kuhlmannn's return to the lineup was highlighted by driving in a pair with a single.  Kyle Haen's RBI single in the fifth drove in Casey Power for a 5-0 lead.  The WARHAWKS plated single runs in the sixth, eighth and ninth innings on RBI hits by Chamberlain and Power along with Kevin White's ground out.  The WARHAWKS collected fourteen hits.

Pitching:
Curtis Morgan (W, 3-0): 6 IP, 6 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 3 K; John Olejniczak (S, 2): 3 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 4 K.

Hitting: Nick Kuhlmann: 1x6, 2 RBI; Steve Chamberlain: 2x5, 2 RBI; Mikole Pierce: 2x4, 1 RS, 2B; Casey Power: 3x5, 2 RS, 1 RBI, 2B; Mike Mierow: 2x4, 3 RS; Kyle Haen: 2x3, 1 RS, 1 RBI; Kevin White: 1x4, 2 RS, 1 RBI, 2B; Adam Gregory: 1 RS

Game Two:

WARHAWKS (16-1-6-0): 4
Oshkosh: 0

Colin Grove pitched a complete game three hit shutout to lead the WARHAWKS to a win in game two.  Mikole Pierce's solo home run in the first inning provided the only run the WARHAWKS would need.  The second run was scored in the fourth.  Adam Gregory walked, then stole second, advance to third on Mike Mierow's single and scored when the Titan's turned a double play.  The third run came in the eighth when Mikole Pierce led off with a double and scored when Gregory singled.  The fourth and final run came in the ninth.  Mierow walked, advanced to second on a balk, third on a wild pitch and scored on Kyle Jones' sacrifice fly. 

Pitching:
Colin Grove (5-0): 9 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 7 K.

Hitting:
Mikole Pierce: 2x3, 2 RS, 1 RBI, 2B, HR; Adam Gregory: 2x3, 1 RS, 1 RBI; Mike Mierow: 1x2, 1 RS; Kyle Haen: 1x2, 2B


The WARHAWKS pitching staff has thrown 27 consecutive shut out innings. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 07, 2015, 09:38:18 PM
How can a wiac team not score a single run in 18 innings I know whitewater is virtually a lock to repeat but even the great wiac teams from the past gave up a few runs every game.  Is whitewaters staff that incredible or oshkoshs offense that bad or combination of both?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 07, 2015, 11:26:33 PM
Think Oshkosh is missing Lechnir yet?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 07, 2015, 11:39:16 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 07, 2015, 11:26:33 PM
Think Oshkosh is missing Lechnir yet?
Of course not.....   ::)

Just give it a couple years and Sims will put baseball on the chopping block just like he did with Men's Soccer and Tennis yesterday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 07, 2015, 11:41:02 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 07, 2015, 09:38:18 PM
How can a wiac team not score a single run in 18 innings I know whitewater is virtually a lock to repeat but even the great wiac teams from the past gave up a few runs every game.  Is whitewaters staff that incredible or oshkoshs offense that bad or combination of both?
That's what happens when you play a bunch of "tomato cans" down in Florida and don't see much in terms of quality pitching...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 07, 2015, 11:56:32 PM
Suddenly, Carthage's three wins vs UW-O don't look as impressive as I once thought they did.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 08, 2015, 11:39:40 AM
The Titan's loaded the bases with one out on two hits and a walk in the first inning of the first game yesterday.  Fortunately Morgan got a ground ball double play to get out of the inning after that.  In the fifth inning a Titan runner was thrown out at home.  Defensively the Titans committed five errors in the game.  They really only threatened once in game two and that was in the bottom of the ninth when the first two batters each singled.  However Grove got a fly out and ground ball double play to keep them off the scoreboard.  Messenger didn't pitch all that badly in game two but you can't win when your offense isn't supporting you.

Grove is pitching well.  He has 16 straight shut out innings.  Morgan is settling in after a somewhat shaky start.  The real question is how the rest of the staff, particularly Bachar and Rentz, will do against the better hitting conference schools like Point, LaCrosse and Stout.  We've got a pretty decent team but I'm hesitant to say anything is a "lock" at this point in the season.  IMO that just silly.  There are too many games left and many of them are against the better conference teams.     
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 08, 2015, 07:48:26 PM
I'm basing my lock prediction based on the way whitewater dismantled an awesome st Thomas team.  No one embarrasses st Thomas the way the hawks did.  I just don't see a pitching staff other than perhaps linfield that can hold whitewater under 5.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 08, 2015, 08:33:57 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 08, 2015, 07:48:26 PM
I'm basing my lock prediction based on the way whitewater dismantled an awesome st Thomas team.  No one embarrasses st Thomas the way the hawks did.  I just don't see a pitching staff other than perhaps linfield that can hold whitewater under 5.

I'm not sure what schedule you've seen but the one posted on our website indicates that St Thomas did, St Scholastica did it twice and even Oshkosh just did it.  LaCrosse has a team ERA of 2.80 so their staff is pretty decent.  Let's see how this weekend turns out.

Our double header with Ripon, originally scheduled March 28 and then rescheduled for tomorrow, has been postponed again. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 08, 2015, 09:13:24 PM
Just another sign of how times have changed in the UWO baseball program....

Today's game vs Lawrence was postponed because "water got under the tarp and there were puddles on the infield."  Were rakes and diamond dry cut out of the budget too along with Men's Soccer and Tennis?  ::)

I can remember a time where players spent three hours removing 3-4 inches of snow off the field so that they could get a non-conference DH in..... 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 08, 2015, 09:51:27 PM
We'll at least messenger got his dream of playing for Oshkosh.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 08, 2015, 10:22:39 PM
Someone at Oshkosh HAS to be wishing Lechnir was still around....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 08, 2015, 10:50:42 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 08, 2015, 10:22:39 PM
Someone at Oshkosh HAS to be wishing Lechnir was still around....
Unfortunately nobody that makes any of the decisions...

I haven't stepped foot on campus since they decided to replace Coach Lechnir, and that won't change anytime soon...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 11, 2015, 08:49:07 PM
Is this going to be Platteville year or what who would've guessed they'd be leading wiac.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 12, 2015, 11:40:55 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 11, 2015, 08:49:07 PM
Is this going to be Platteville year or what who would've guessed they'd be leading wiac.
And haven't played a single game against Whitewater, Point, or La Crosse...  Once they go 4-8 at best against those three teams, let me know if it is still "Platteville's year."  ::)

Not sure why I am surprised though, as you have had nothing to bitch about with Point for the last couple of weeks so you have to over-react about something else!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 12, 2015, 11:49:10 AM
LaCrosse: 5
WARHAWKS: 7

LaCrosse: 6
WARHAWKS: 3

I typed out wraps of both games and then lost both when I screwed up.  I'm too lazy to type them out again so if you're interested here's the story.

http://www.uwwsports.com/news/2015/4/11/BSB_0411151812.aspx


It didn't take long for LaCrosse to prove a team could score more than five runs on our staff.  I wouldn't be surprised to see them do it again today too. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BDB on April 12, 2015, 01:48:39 PM
Because of unplayable conditions in Menomonie the double header between Stout and St. Thomas was moved to St. Paul.

Stout swept the #4 (or #10 depending) rated Tommies 6-2 and 16-4.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 12, 2015, 03:59:51 PM
Quote from: BlueDevil Bob on April 12, 2015, 01:48:39 PM
Because of unplayable conditions in Menomonie the double header between Stout and St. Thomas was moved to St. Paul.

Stout swept the #4 (or #10 depending) rated Tommies 6-2 and 16-4.
Quality wins regardless of the fact that neither team trotted out their top pitchers.  (UST started a pair of freshman that still haven't pitched nine innings between the two of them...)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 12, 2015, 05:19:34 PM
Well when u put up 16 I guess it doesn't matter.  Point just roughed up messenger he didn't last 2 innings.  I am not shocked by stout I'm glad point played them early.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 12, 2015, 05:37:18 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 12, 2015, 05:19:34 PM
Well when u put up 16 I guess it doesn't matter.  Point just roughed up messenger he didn't last 2 innings.  I am not shocked by stout I'm glad point played them early.
Isn't that the same guy that "you'd be surprised if he lost a game all season?"  ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 12, 2015, 06:44:43 PM
Well he's clearly not the same pitcher he was two years ago and a reliable titans fan told me he's having arm trouble.  Looks like oshkosh may win game 4 regardless point was stoked to face messenger and when he got pulled it seemed to suck the life out of the dugout.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 12, 2015, 07:35:30 PM
And there goes golden opportunity for point can't have 5 errors and win in wiac.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 12, 2015, 08:10:59 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 12, 2015, 06:44:43 PM
Well he's clearly not the same pitcher he was two years ago and a reliable titans fan told me he's having arm trouble.
Maybe if UWO had developed some pitching depth that might not be an issue.... 

Kind of telling when you are 22 games into the season (over the course of just 30 calendar days) and only FIVE different pitchers have started a game on the mound for the Titans.  The game against Lawrence on Wednesday that was "postponed" would have been a GREAT opportunity!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 12, 2015, 08:53:43 PM
Quote from: BlueDevil Bob on April 12, 2015, 01:48:39 PM
Because of unplayable conditions in Menomonie the double header between Stout and St. Thomas was moved to St. Paul.

Stout swept the #4 (or #10 depending) rated Tommies 6-2 and 16-4.
Following yesterday's sweep of St. Thomas, Stout follows it up with a split against Macalester today, who entered today's DH with a 6-12 record.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 12, 2015, 09:51:33 PM
Oshkosh really showed their not far behind point very easily could've taken 3 of 4.  Can't complain about taking 4 but it was there for the taking and would've been huge.  Point is now looking at next 7 on road hoping to go 5 and 2 at worst but that may be hard to do Platteville beat point twice at point last year and I believe their top 2 pitchers are solid.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 13, 2015, 10:19:36 AM
Game One:

LaCrosse: 5
WARHAWKS (18-2, 8-1): 16

Daytona Bryden's RBI single opened the scoring in the first inning and the WARHAWKS added a pair in the second with a bases loaded walk and a wild pitch to go up 3-0.  The Eagles cut the lead to one run with a pair of runs in the third inning and went ahead 4-3 with single runs in the fourth and fifth.  However the lead didn't last long as the WARHAWKS countered with six runs of their own in the bottom half of the inning.  Adam Gregory's solo shot tied the game and Bryden's double took the lead for good.  Jordan Kuczynski's sacrifice fly plated the third run and Mikole Pierce rounded out the scoring by driving in a pair with a double.  LaCrosse got one run back with a solo home run in the sixth but the WARHAWKS responded with eight runs in the bottom of the inning on RBI doubles from Dane Burman (2), Adam Gregory (2) and Steve Chamberlain, a solo home run by Bryden and Mike Mierow's ground out.  The Eagles were retired in order in the bottom of inning ending game on the run rule.

Pitching: Lake Bachar (W, 3-0): 6 IP, 5 H, 5 R, 3 ER, 2 BB, 7 K; Ankur Shah: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 K.

Hitting: Jordan Kuczynski: 1x1, 1 RS, 1 RBI, 2B; Steve Chamberlain: 1x3, 2 RS, 1 RBI, 2B; Mikole Pierce: 1x3, 1 RS, 2 RBI, 2B;  Casey Power: 1x4, 2 RS; Adam Gregory: 2x4, 2 RS, 3 RBI, 2B, HR; Mike Mierow: 2x5, 2 RS, 1 RBI; Kyle Haen: 2x2, 2 RS, 1 RBI; Dane Burman: 1x4, 2 RS, 2 RBI, 2B; Daytona Bryden: 3x4, 2 RS, 4 RBI, 2B, HR.

Game Two:

LaCrosse: 11
WARHAWKS (18-3, 8-2): 7

Mikole Pierce's sacrifice fly gave the WARHAWKS an early 1-0 lead but the Eagles matched that tying the game in their half of the second.  Daytona Bryden singled in the second run in the second inning.  Steve Chamberlain double to drive in a run and Chamberlain also scored when the Eagle's outfield misplayed the ball putting the WARHAWKS on top 4-1.  However things went to hell in a hand basket in the sixth when the Eagles pounded out six hits and were aided by a WARHAWKS throwing error and hit batter all of which allowed six runs to score and put the Eagles on top 7-4.  The Eagles added a run to the lead in the eighth and then three more in the ninth to go up 11-4.  The WARHAWKS loaded the bases with no outs in the ninth adding a single run when the Eagles turned a double play and two more when Casey Power followed that with a two run shot.  However the rally ended when the next batter flied out.

Pitching: Heath Rentz (L, 1-1): 5 IP, 9 H, 5 R, 5 ER, 1 BB, 5 K; Ankur Shah: 0.1 IP, 2 H, 2 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 K; Matt Langlie: 2.0, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 2 K;  Donnie Manke: 0.2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 K; Matt Roberts: 0.2 IP, 3 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 0 K; Austin Fin: 0.1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K.

Hitting: Daytona Bryden: 3x5, 1 RS, 3 RBI, 3B; Steve Chamberlain: 2x5, 1 RBI, 2B; Casey Power: 3x5, 1 RS, 2 RBI, 2B, HR; Adam Gregory: 1x5, 3B; Kyle Haen: 1x4, 1 RS; Jordan Kucyznski: 2x3, 2 RS; Mikole Pierce: 1 RBI
   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 15, 2015, 08:11:46 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 07, 2015, 09:38:18 PM
How can a wiac team not score a single run in 18 innings I know whitewater is virtually a lock to repeat but even the great wiac teams from the past gave up a few runs every game.  Is whitewaters staff that incredible or oshkoshs offense that bad or combination of both?
WACKY WIAC strikes again!!!!

Oshkosh outhits Whitewater 16-6 in Game #1 and 9-5 in Game #2, however Whitewater bounces back from losing Game #1 10-6 to win Game #2 5-4 and earn a split....

La Crosse beats Point in Game #1 7-6, and again in Game #2 4-3.  (Game #3 is currently scoreless after two innings.)  UWL's Jameson Sadowske picked up the save in Game #1 and win in Game #2.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 15, 2015, 08:14:48 PM
If La Crosse wins Game #3, someone better keep an eye on Shinetime!!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 15, 2015, 09:32:01 PM
So much for prebelski coming back today to be honest I expected point to struggle this year and now their in huge trouble seeing they have 8 left vs Platteville and whitewater.  Looks like point easily could finish 4th or 5th now and I'm being serious. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 15, 2015, 09:48:44 PM
Gdmfsob la crosse should be ranked where point is like I posted earlier and point realistically should be around 22 or 23 given no prebelski or watson
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 15, 2015, 09:53:14 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 15, 2015, 09:32:01 PM
So much for prebelski coming back today to be honest I expected point to struggle this year and now their in huge trouble seeing they have 8 left vs Platteville and whitewater.  Looks like point easily could finish 4th or 5th now and I'm being serious.
Platteville's 8-0 has come against Superior and Stout.  BIG DEAL!!!!

Side wager that Point take three out of four from Platteville?  I win, you can't post on WIAC baseball board anymore this season and if you win, you can name the stipulation....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 15, 2015, 10:01:42 PM
I hear you but point couldn't manage 3 of 4 against stout at home on top of it.  I am wondering why beau wasn't brought in for game 3 but is in now is point finally sensing some urgency.  I'll think about your bet I truly don't see point taking more than 2 Platteville is loaded especially pitching staff and point has proven they struggle mightily with quality pitchers.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 15, 2015, 10:27:41 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 15, 2015, 10:01:42 PM
I hear you but point couldn't manage 3 of 4 against stout at home on top of it. I am wondering why beau wasn't brought in for game 3 but is in now is point finally sensing some urgency.  I'll think about your bet I truly don't see point taking more than 2 Platteville is loaded especially pitching staff and point has proven they struggle mightily with quality pitchers.
Try again...  Point beat Stout 12-0, 12-2, and 7-4.

As far as the three losses today, they were all one run losses.  La Crosse came out on top today, but who's to say ball doesn't bounce the other way next time and Point wins three one run games?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 16, 2015, 09:58:50 AM
LaCrosse is for real. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 16, 2015, 10:18:28 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 16, 2015, 09:58:50 AM
LaCrosse is for real.
Agreed!!!!

Having already gotten all 8 games in against Whitewater and Point (and went 5-3 mind you.) I think they have the edge in the WIAC regular season race.  WIAC Tournament might have its first visit to Copeland Park!!!  (I think it was still played on campus in 2012 when La Crosse hosted.)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 16, 2015, 11:31:48 AM
Game One:

WARHAWKS (18-4, 8-3): 6
Oshkosh: 10

The Titans opened the game with a run in the first inning and held the 1-0 lead until Casey Power's RBI single tied it in the third.  The tie was short lived however as the Titans pushed two more across in the bottom of inning with an RBI double and a sacrifice fly.  Mike Mierow's double drove in a pair in the sixth inning tying the game 3-3 and RBIs from Power and Adam Gregory put the WARHAWKS up 5-3.  Things got ugly for the WARHAWKS in the bottom of the inning however as the Titans scored four unearned runs on three hits, two WARHAWKS errors and a wild pitch.  A pair of walks and wild pitches coupled with a balk and one hit scored three more Titan runs in the eighth giving them a comfortable 10-5 lead.  Power's third RBI of the game added a run for the WARHAWKS in the ninth. 

Pitching: Curtis Morgan: 2 IP, 7 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 0 BB, 1 K; John Olejniczak: 3.1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 K; Andrew Lowe (L, 0-1): 1 IP, 4 H, 4 R, 0 ER, O BB, 2 K; Donnie Manke: 0.2 IP,1 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 0 K; Mike Nompleggi: 0.1 IP, 0 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 0 K; Austin Finn: 0.2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 K.

Hitting: Steve Chamberlain: 1x3, 2 RS, 2B; Mikole Pierce: 1x3, 1 RS;  Casey Power: 3x4, 1 RS, 3 RBI; Mike Mierow: 1x5, 2 RBI, 2B; Jordan Kuczynski: 1 RS; Daytona Bryden: 1 RS

Adam Gregory's brother Lucas (3-1) got the win for the Titans.


Game Two:

WARHAWKS (19-4, 9-3): 5
Oshkosh: 4

Mikole Pierce's sacrifice fly put the WARHAWKS on the board in the first inning and a wild pitch coupled with Casey Power's sacrifice fly in the third inning made the score 3-0.  But the Titans tied it in the bottom of the inning with a pair of RBI doubles and a single that was misplayed in the WARHAWKS outfield.  The Titans took a 5-4 lead with a run in the fourth inning.  With one out in the sixth the WARHAWKS got back to back singles from Power and Mike Mierow both of whom advanced a base when the Titan pitcher balked setting the stage for Kyle Jones's RBI single driving in the go ahead run.  The Titans left a runner in scoring position in the seventh and stranded the tying run on third base in the last at bat. 

Pitching: Colin Grove: 4 IP, 7 H, 4 R, 3 ER, 0 BB, 1 K; Lake Bachar (W, 4-0): 5 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 6 K.

Hitting: Steve Chamberlain: 1x5, 1 RS, 2B; Casey Power: 1x3, 1 RS, 1 RBI; Mike Mierow: 1x4, 1 RS; Kyle Jones: 1x4, 1 RBI; Jordan Kuczynski: 1x3, 2B; Mikole Pierce: 1 RBI; Daytona Bryden: 2 RS

The WARHAWKS will host St Norbert College in a double header Saturday before returning to conference play with a twin bill in Stevens Point Tuesday the 21st.

 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 18, 2015, 05:15:36 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 15, 2015, 10:01:42 PM
I hear you but point couldn't manage 3 of 4 against stout at home on top of it.  I am wondering why beau wasn't brought in for game 3 but is in now is point finally sensing some urgency.  I'll think about your bet I truly don't see point taking more than 2 Platteville is loaded especially pitching staff and point has proven they struggle mightily with quality pitchers.
You were saying?   ::)

Point 19
Platteville 5

Final-7 Innings
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 18, 2015, 07:18:38 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 16, 2015, 10:18:28 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 16, 2015, 09:58:50 AM
LaCrosse is for real.
Agreed!!!!

Having already gotten all 8 games in against Whitewater and Point (and went 5-3 mind you.) I think they have the edge in the WIAC regular season race.  WIAC Tournament might have its first visit to Copeland Park!!!  (I think it was still played on campus in 2012 when La Crosse hosted.)
Stout says not so fast!!!!

The Blue Devils beat La Crosse today 4-3 in Game #1, and were ready to get the sweep, however the Eagles score three runs in the bottom of the 9th inning to escape with a split and an 11-10 victory. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 18, 2015, 07:50:51 PM
Platteville threw their 4 or 5 point struggled with Daniels and now will have tough test tomorrow although kowalke will go.  Too bad stout didn't hold on would've made things interesting any oshkosh updates
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 18, 2015, 07:53:20 PM
Seriously point gets 3 in top of 11th and Platteville gets 4 in bottom
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 18, 2015, 08:04:39 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 18, 2015, 07:50:51 PM
Platteville threw their 4 or 5 point struggled with Daniels and now will have tough test tomorrow although kowalke will go.  Too bad stout didn't hold on would've made things interesting any oshkosh updates
Superior baseball is right back to where they were before Morgan turned things around and left...  UWO swept Superior 8-0 and 11-4.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 18, 2015, 08:05:57 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 18, 2015, 07:50:51 PM
Platteville threw their 4 or 5 point struggled with Daniels and now will have tough test tomorrow although kowalke will go.  Too bad stout didn't hold on would've made things interesting any oshkosh updates
I'll still leave the bet out there....  I said three out of four, which means Point has to sweep tomorrow.  You game?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 18, 2015, 09:56:57 PM
I'll take the bet I won't post again for rest of baseball season if point wins both u don't need to do anything how does that sound I'm rather confident Platteville will get 1 I hate to say I told u so but man is point underachieving more than ever.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on April 19, 2015, 12:18:30 PM
If there is a god, Point sweeps Platteville today.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 19, 2015, 12:54:48 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 16, 2015, 10:18:28 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 16, 2015, 09:58:50 AM
LaCrosse is for real.
Agreed!!!!

Having already gotten all 8 games in against Whitewater and Point (and went 5-3 mind you.) I think they have the edge in the WIAC regular season race.  WIAC Tournament might have its first visit to Copeland Park!!!  (I think it was still played on campus in 2012 when La Crosse hosted.)

The 2012 tournament was played on the campus diamond.  I've heard that LaCrosse is sinking a bunch of money into the softball facility which is adjacent to the baseball diamond and they're also going to do some improvements to the baseball facility (dugouts and the pressbox) even though they don't plan on using it for anything other than a practice field. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 19, 2015, 01:33:53 PM
Game One:

St Norbert: 2
WARHAWKS (20-4, 9-3)

In the bottom of the second inning a ground out by Adam Gregory plated the first WARHAWKS run and Jordan Kuczynski's solo shot staked the WARHAWKS to a 2-0 lead.  However the Green Knights matched those runs in the fourth inning courtesy of a WARHAWKS throwing error and an RBI single.  Neither team could score into the tenth inning though the WARHAWKS stranded runners in scoring position in both the sixth and eighth innings.  With one out in the tenth Daytona Bryden reached first on a bunt single and advanced to scoring position when he stole second base.  After Mikole Pierce was intentionally walked Casey Power lined a hard single through the hole between short and third and Bryden scored the winning run.

Pitching: Ankur Shah: 4 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 2 K; Mike Nompleggi (W, 3-0): 6 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 7 K.

Hitting: Daytona Bryden: 1x5, 1 RS; Mikole Pierce: 3x3 2B; Casey Power: 1x4, 1 RBI; Kyle Haen: 1x3, 1 RS; Jordan Kuczynski: 1x4, 1 RS, 1 RBI, HR; Adam Gregory: 1 RS.

Game Two:

St Norbert: 2
WARHAWKS (21-4, 9-3): 4

St Norbert opened the scoring with a run in the first inning on a ground out but the WARHAWKS even the score in their at bat when two infield singles and an infield error loaded the bases and Kyle Haen hit a sacrifice fly.  St Norbert recaptured the lead 2-1  in the third when another infield ground out plated a runner.  The WARHAWKS took the lead for good in the fourth with three runs.  With one out Kyle Jones reached first on another infield hit and scored when Dane Burman followed with an RBI double.  After a base on balls put a second WARHAWKS runner on base and a fielders choice created the second out Steve Chamberlain tripled driving in both runners and staking the WARHAWKS to a 4-2 lead which stood for the rest of the game though the Green Knights stranded two runners in the seventh.

Pitching: Heath Rentz: 3 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 2 K; Donnie Manke (W, 1-0): 4 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 3 K; Austin Finn: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 K; Andrew Lowe (S, 1): 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 K.

Hitting: Daytona Bryden: 2x5, 1 RS; Steve Chamberlain: 2x4, 1 RS, 2 RBI, 3B; Kyle Jones: 1x2, 1 RS; Dane Burman: 2x4, 1 RBI; Kyle Haen: 1 RBI. 

We didn't hit very well more so in the first game.  However we got really good relief pitching and managed to added a pair of wins.  Donnie Manke had his best outing of the season and Nompleggi has been solid.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 19, 2015, 02:07:33 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 18, 2015, 09:56:57 PM
I'll take the bet I won't post again for rest of baseball season if point wins both u don't need to do anything how does that sound I'm rather confident Platteville will get 1 I hate to say I told u so but man is point underachieving more than ever.
I won't actually hold you to it...  Your outlandish statements are just unbearable at times though.  More or less, I was just trying to make a point.

As far as a score?

Point 19
Platteville 6

FINAL-Game 1 (7 Innings)

Point 15
Platteville 5

FINAL-Game 2 (7 Innings)

That makes it 19, 6, 19, and 15 runs off of Platteville's "loaded pitching staff" with three games ending via the mercy rule...   ::)

Hate to say I told you so, but I'm more surprised Platteville actually took one out of four.  Look for the same result when the Pioneers play the Warhawks and Eagles later on this season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 19, 2015, 02:28:47 PM
La Crosse erupts for 8 runs in the bottom of the 8th inning to mercy rule Stout 11-1 in Game #1 today, and La Crosse finishes off the sweep with a 12-4 victory in the nightcap.

While the Eagles would have liked to get all four, they showed some mettle coming back and winning the last three after dropping the opener yesterday.

If you are La Crosse, you are likely turning into a HUGE Stevens Point fan the next couple of weeks by virtue of taking three out of four from the Pointers compared to just splitting with Whitewater.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 19, 2015, 10:58:17 PM
Will beau or kowalke be able to go Tuesday?  Whitewater has huge advantage by not having conference games heading into game Tuesday.  Can point finish 10 and 2 and hopefully secure at large?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on April 19, 2015, 11:03:08 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 19, 2015, 10:58:17 PM
Will beau or kowalke be able to go Tuesday?  Whitewater has huge advantage by not having conference games heading into game Tuesday.  Can point finish 10 and 2 and hopefully secure at large?

Honor the bet and stop posting.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 19, 2015, 11:10:02 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on April 19, 2015, 11:03:08 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 19, 2015, 10:58:17 PM
Will beau or kowalke be able to go Tuesday?  Whitewater has huge advantage by not having conference games heading into game Tuesday.  Can point finish 10 and 2 and hopefully secure at large?
Honor the bet and stop posting.
I set the bet, and told him to keep posting despite losing...  I was just trying to have some fun with it!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 20, 2015, 09:23:56 AM
It's one vote for honoring the bet and one vote to forget it.  I'll cast the deciding vote....keep posting if for no other reason than the entertainment value.  :D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 20, 2015, 10:09:00 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 19, 2015, 10:58:17 PM
Will beau or kowalke be able to go Tuesday?  Whitewater has huge advantage by not having conference games heading into game Tuesday.  Can point finish 10 and 2 and hopefully secure at large?
With Beau only going five innings on Saturday, I think there is a good chance you will see him start on Tuesday on two days rest.  As far as Kowalke, even through he only went four innings, I doubt he would be brought back on one day of rest.  Wouldn't surprise me to see Erickson get the start since he was pulled in the first inning after walking three batters.  The wild card would be Prebelski, since he saw action in relief in a couple of games this weekend, although I have a feeling he is only going to be used in relief the rest of the season.

Would be very surprised if anyone besides Grove and Morgan start for Whitewater, although Bachar seems to be throwing better than Morgan as of late.

With the weather forecast, Point may catch a break if the games are pushed back to Wednesday, giving all of their pitchers an extra day of rest.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 20, 2015, 11:47:59 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 20, 2015, 09:23:56 AM
It's one vote for honoring the bet and one vote to forget it.  I'll cast the deciding vote....keep posting if for no other reason than the entertainment value.  :D
Well, I guess it's decided then!!!  ;D

Not sure why tomt4525 cares anyway...  He hasn't made a single post on the baseball board all season!!!  :o
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 20, 2015, 01:03:21 PM
I realize I take pointer losses a lot harder than a grown man should but I don't see how an offense that stacked can lose this many games already.  Prebelski isn't truly healthy I'm guessing and that really doesn't help points chances they desperately need a split with whitewater.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 20, 2015, 01:07:07 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 20, 2015, 01:03:21 PM
I realize I take pointer losses a lot harder than a grown man should but I don't see how an offense that stacked can lose this many games already.  Prebelski isn't truly healthy I'm guessing and that really doesn't help points chances they desperately need a split with whitewater.

I feel the same about Carthage losses... when it's in your blood, it's in your blood.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 20, 2015, 01:41:51 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 20, 2015, 01:07:07 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 20, 2015, 01:03:21 PM
I realize I take pointer losses a lot harder than a grown man should but I don't see how an offense that stacked can lose this many games already.  Prebelski isn't truly healthy I'm guessing and that really doesn't help points chances they desperately need a split with whitewater.
I feel the same about Carthage losses... when it's in your blood, it's in your blood.
I used to feel that way about UWO baseball as well....  As soon as I went in and had a blood transfusion done, the feeling disappeared!!!   ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 20, 2015, 03:53:37 PM
I'm only going on 20 years as pointer fan u guys I'm guessing have been supporters of your teams longer already told my wife if either of our boys are good enough to play in college their going to be pointers I have a 6 year old south paw perhaps next delorit or messenger who knows
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 20, 2015, 04:00:06 PM
I bet Coach Bloom can't wait.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 20, 2015, 04:07:30 PM
I don't know he'll be there in 12 years or if my son will be good enough I certainly push him enough.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 20, 2015, 04:20:53 PM
Yes, that always works out well.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 21, 2015, 08:36:11 AM
WARHAWKS/Pointers games have been postponed until tomorrow. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BDB on April 21, 2015, 10:04:26 AM
Stout baseball at Souptown postponed until tomorrow.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 21, 2015, 08:24:38 PM
La Crosse likely sees their chances at hosting the WIAC Tournament pretty much go up in flames, as they are swept at Platteville today 8-5 and 3-2 to drop to 11-7 in WIAC play.

Congrats to the Pioneers on the sweep, and improving to 11-3 in WIAC play.  While I am still not sold on them battling for the regular season championship, this result does at least make me think Platteville will be a tournament team.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 21, 2015, 09:59:54 PM
How many teams will wiac get in regionals if whitewater wins the conference tournament.  I still think the 4th or 5th best wiac team would compete for conference title in most leagues.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 21, 2015, 10:38:40 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 21, 2015, 09:59:54 PM
How many teams will wiac get in regionals if whitewater wins the conference tournament.  I still think the 4th or 5th best wiac team would compete for conference title in most leagues.
Doubtful....  4th/5th place team doesn't have the pitching depth to compete for a conference title in my opinion.

It honestly looks like all the WIAC teams are lacking QUALITY pitching depth this year!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 21, 2015, 10:50:01 PM
Hoping point can at least make things interesting and take 2 tomorrow.  Platteville has a tough road still with 8 games vs whitewater and Oshkosh I think Oshkosh is capable of taking 3 in that series.  Whitewater has 4 at stout and I'm thinking stout can get 1 maybe 2 if their lucky either way this could get very interesting.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 22, 2015, 02:38:43 PM
Beau vs Morgan in Game #1 today for Point and Whitewater...

Whitewater puts up a five spot in Top 1st inning (three earned) while Point scores a single run in the bottom half.  Will be interesting to see if Beau settles down and gives his offense a chance to chip away at early deficit.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 22, 2015, 03:17:21 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 22, 2015, 02:38:43 PM
Beau vs Morgan in Game #1 today for Point and Whitewater...

Whitewater puts up a five spot in Top 1st inning (three earned) while Point scores a single run in the bottom half.  Will be interesting to see if Beau settles down and gives his offense a chance to chip away at early deficit.
That's a negative!!!!  Whitewater follows up five run first inning with another run in the second inning and three more in the fourth inning. 

If I am Point, I am saving my best arms for the nightcap and hoping for a split, as it appears Game #1 is a lost cause.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 22, 2015, 03:24:18 PM
Superior's Christian Hall with the pitching performance of the season thus far in the WIAC. 

He faces one batter over the minimum, allowing just one hit (a leadoff single in the 8th inning) while striking out five in Superior's 5-0 victory over Stout.  It was just Hall's second start of the season, and he had thrown just 17 innings on the season entering today.

The victory is Superior's first in WIAC play this season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 22, 2015, 03:30:33 PM
I lasted an inning with my son at pointer game stayed long enough to see hawks put up 5.  Started with spetz error than walk.  Pierce appeared to hit a ball that hanke may have had a chance on but let it fall.  Very unfortunate that two solid teams have to play through this attendance was terrible and I don't see students flooding in on day like today.  I agree with cubs get beau out of there and throw him Sunday his arm could take the rest.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 22, 2015, 04:44:31 PM
Wow 17 to 4 going to take miracle to take game 2 whitewater can flat out rake.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 22, 2015, 06:30:55 PM
Game One:

WARHAWKS (22-4, 10-3): 20
Stevens Point: 5

Mikole Pierce's RBI single opened the scoring in the first.  Kyle Haen followed with an RBI single and Mike Mierow followed that with a double driving in a pair.  Mierow scored the final run of the inning on a wild pitch staking the WARHAWKS to 5-0 lead.  Point scored a run in the bottom of the inning on back to back singles.  Haen's RBI single matched that run in the second before the Pointers scored a pair in the third on a pair of hits.  Casey Power's double drove in two runs and Mierow's third RBI on a single put the WARHAWKS on top 9-2 after four innings.  Will Helbing's sacrifice fly in the fifth added a run and Power drove in two more with a single.  Pierce added the fifth run of the inning when he successfully stole home as part of a double steal and the WARHAWKS lead increased to 14-2.  The Pointers added a pair of runs in the bottom of the inning with three hits and a sacrifice fly.  Helbing drove in his second run of the game with a single in the sixth.  Steve Chamberlain scored on a wild pitch in the seventh and drove in another run with an RBI single when he batted for the second time in the inning.  Haen added a sacrifice fly RBI, Kyle White's base on balls forced in a run and Daytona Bryden drove in a pair to push the score to 20-4.  Point scored once more in the bottom of the inning with a couple singles and a sacrifice fly and the game ended by the run rule.

Pitching: Curtis Morgan (W, 5-0): 4.2 IP, 7 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 2 BB, 1 K; John Olejnicak: 1.1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 1 K; Andrew Lowe: 1 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 1 K.

Hitting: Daytona Bryden: 2x5, 3 RS, 2 RBI; Steve Chamberlain: 3x3, 5 RS, 1 RBI; Mikole Pierce: 3x5, 3 RS, 1 RBI, 2B; Casey Power: 2x4, 1 RS, 4 RBI, 2B; Kyle Haen: 2x4, 1 RS, 3 RBI; Mike Mierow: 3x5, 2 RS, 3 RBI, 2-2B; Jordan Kuczynski: 1x4, 1 RS; Will Helbing: 1x2, 2 RBI; Kyle White: 1 RS, 1 RBI; Adam Gregory: 3 RS.


Game Two:

WARHAWKS (23-4, 11-3): 11
Stevens Point: 1

Each team scored a run in their second inning.  Mike Mierow's home run opened the scoring and Cody Hanke's home run tied the score in the bottom of the inning.  Casey Power's RBI single in the third inning put the WARHAWKS in the lead 2-1 and a five run fourth inning increased the lead to 7-1.  Will Helbing's RBI double accounted for the first run while RBI singles from Daytona Bryden and Casey Power added two more.  The final two runs of the inning both scored when Kyle Haen and Mike Mierow each drew consecutive bases loaded walks.  The WARHAWKS added single runs in the sixth and seventh innings on Steve Chamberlain's double and Mierow's sacrifice fly.  The Pointers threatened in the sixth but left bases loaded without scoring.  Chamberlain's second RBI double scored a run in the seventh and he scored when Power singled.  Austin Finn put the Pointers down in order in the bottom of the inning ending the game by the run rule.

Pitching: Collin Grove (W, 6-1): 6 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 3 BB, 6 K; Austin Finn: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 2 K.

Hitting: Daytona Bryden: 4x5, 2 RS, 1 RBI; Steve Chamberlain: 4x5, 3 RS, 2 RBI, 2-2B; Mikole Pierce: 1x4, 1 RS; Casey PowerL 3x4, 1 RS, 3 RBI; Mike Mierow: 2x2, 1 RS, 3 RBI, 2B, HR; Adam Gregory: 1x3, 2B; Jordan Kuczynski: 2x4, 1 RS; Will Helbing: 2x3, 2 RS, 1 RBI, 2B; Kyle Haen: 1 RBI.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 22, 2015, 07:23:29 PM
Whitewater is officially awesome and point needs a fire lit immediately
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 22, 2015, 09:08:54 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 22, 2015, 04:44:31 PM
Wow 17 to 4 going to take miracle to take game 2 whitewater can flat out rake.
They did today, but they can also have rough days at the plate as well.... 

Exhibit A-DH vs St. Norbert last weekend, where they scored 7 runs in 18 innings, yet still won a pair of games, 3-2 and 4-2.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 23, 2015, 10:36:58 AM
If you had seen us against St Norbert you wouldn't have recognized us against Point.  It's amazing how fickle bats can be.  At any rate I just hope we can keep raking against Platteville this weekend. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 23, 2015, 11:31:08 AM
I've never seen point get destroyed like that on their home field I don't know how u recover from an embarrassing day like that.  If whitewater hits like that it won't matter who they send to the mound.  Doesn't help either with errors walks hit batters and misplayed balls in outfield.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 24, 2015, 09:20:49 AM
I thought the first set of regional rankings were being released yesterday but I haven't been able to find them. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 24, 2015, 09:30:43 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 24, 2015, 09:20:49 AM
I thought the first set of regional rankings were being released yesterday but I haven't been able to find them.
You aren't alone.....

They were JUST posted!!!

http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/baseball/d3
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 25, 2015, 09:11:31 PM
Oshkosh is moving up fast and could slide in to 4th yet I wouldn't assume point will take all 4 at superior next weekend.  Point also has two left vs whitewater next week.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 26, 2015, 09:33:17 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 25, 2015, 09:11:31 PM
Oshkosh is moving up fast and could slide in to 4th yet I wouldn't assume point will take all 4 at superior next weekend.  Point also has two left vs whitewater next week.
They just split with a Stout team that has FOUR WIAC wins on the season...  How is that moving up?  ::)

Let's say UWO sweeps Stout today (not a guarantee) and splits with Platteville in their last series, they finish 12-12 in WIAC play.  That would mean Point would have to go 1-5 in their last six against Whitewater and Superior for UWO to finish in 4th place.  THAT IS NOT HAPPENING!!!  I swear sometimes you don't even bother looking at the standings!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 26, 2015, 01:23:27 PM
One would have to assume point has for sure 2 more losses though and I think oshkosh could run the table.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 26, 2015, 01:26:41 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 26, 2015, 01:23:27 PM
One would have to assume point has for sure 2 more losses though and I think oshkosh could run the table.
You were just touting Platteville last week, stating there was no way Point could take three out of four from them, and now you think UWO is going to sweep them? 

This is why you frustrate people on here!!!!  Make up your mind for god's sake!!!!  >:(
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 26, 2015, 02:47:22 PM
Oshkosh seems a lot better than their record would indicate is what I'm trying to say.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 26, 2015, 03:32:55 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 26, 2015, 02:47:22 PM
Oshkosh seems a lot better than their record would indicate is what I'm trying to say.
That same UWO team that you were wondering how they managed to get shut out over 18 straight innings?  Just checking... ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 26, 2015, 06:31:34 PM
Game One:

Platteville: 5
WARHAWKS (24-4, 12-3): 7

Platteville scored two in the first inning after Curtis Morgan walked the bases loaded and a WARHAWKS throwing error on what appeared to be a tailor made double play.  Nick Kuhlman's RBI single cut the deficit in half in the second inning but the Pioneers went back on top by two with a run in the third inning.  The WARHAWKS took the lead for good, 4-3, with three runs in the bottom of the third.  Mikole Pierce's triple drove in a pair and Trey Cannon, back in the lineup for the first time since the second game of the season, grounded out bringing Pierce home.  The WARHAWKS would increase their lead to 7-3 with single runs in the sixth, seventh and eighth innings.  A bases loaded walk brought in the first run, Pierce's ground out the second and Kuhlman's double to right center field the third.  Platteville added a pair in the eighth and put another runner in scoring position in the ninth before the game ended.

Pitching: Curtis Morgan (W, 6-0): 7 IP, 5 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 3 BB, 5 K; John Olejnicek: 0.2 IP, 2 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 0 BB, 0 K; Austin Finn (S, 1): 1.1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 2 K.

Hitting: Daytona Bryden: 2x3, 2 RS; Steve Chamberlain: 1xr, 1 RS; Mikole Pierce: 3x5, 1 RS, 3 RBI, 2B, 3B; Trey Cannon: 1x4, 1 RS, 1 RBI; Nick Kuhlman: 3x4, 2 RBI, 2B; Jordan Kuczynski: 1 RBI.

Game Two:

Platteville: 1
WARHAWKS (25-4, 13-3): 5

The WARHAWKS got all the runs they would need with four in the second inning.  Mike Mierow and Kyle Haen each got fielders choice RBIs and Steve Chamberlain's double drove in runs three and four.  Platteville cut it to 4-1 in the sixth when a run scored on a double play.  The WARHAWKS matched that run in the eighth inning when Casey Power singled driving in Chamberlain.  Collin Grove pitched all nine  and Austin Daniels went the distance for the Pioneers in a game which only took 1:40 to complete.   

Pitching: Collin Grove (W, 7-1): 9 IP,  6 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 4 K.

Hitting: Steve Chamberlain: 2x3, 1 RS, 2 RBI; Mikole Pierce: 2x4; Casey Power: 2x4, 1 RS, 1 RBI, 2B; Adam Gregory: 1x3, 1 RS; Mike Mierow: 1 RS, 1 RBI; Kyle Haen: 1 RS


The WARHAWKS celebrated the return of the 2005 National Championship team between games with an on field ceremony and tailgate.  Championship banners were added under the scoreboard and #30 was retired in honor of ex-WARHAWKS coach Jim Miller. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: palum on April 27, 2015, 04:02:48 PM
I see Platteville is not giving up without a fight they won game one today 3-2. :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 27, 2015, 04:32:03 PM
Is Platteville for real I would have to say they are and have really good chance of making regionals.  Unfortunately the wiac isn't getting 4 teams.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 27, 2015, 04:32:43 PM
Game One:

Platteville: 3
WARHAWKS (25-5, 13-4): 2

The WARHAWKS jumped out to a 2-0 lead with single runs in the first and second innings.  Trey Cannon's RBI single accounted for the run in the first inning and Steve Chamberlain matched that accounting for the second inning run.  The Pioneers tied the game with a pair of runs in the fifth inning both coming with two outs.  The Pioneers scored the winning run, unearned, in the seventh.  The WARHAWKS could only generate seven hits in the game and stranded runners in scoring position in the first, second, fifth, sixth and eighth innings.  Additionally two WARHAWKS base runners were thrown out at the plate.   

Pitching: Lake Bachar (L, 4-1): 6 IP, 11 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 0 BB, 3 K; Donnie Manke: 3 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 3 K.

Hitting: Daytona Bryden: 2x3, 2B; Steve Chamberlain: 1x5, 1 RBI; Mikole Pierce: 1x2, 1 RS; Trey Cannon: 1x4, 1 RBI; Nick Kuhlman: 1x3, 1 RS.

Game Two:

Platteville: 2
WARHAWKS (26-5, 14-4): 5

Casey Power's RBI double in the third inning drove in pair of runs and staked the WARHAWKS to the early lead.  But the Pioneers got both of those runs back with RBI singles in the fourth and fifth innings tying the game 2-2.  The WARHAWKS took the lead for good in the sixth by scoring a pair on Adam Gregory's RBI single and a fielders choice.  A pair of fielding errors by the Pioneer infield allowed the WARHAWKS to score the fifth run in the seventh.

Pitching: Mike Nompeggi: 5 IP, 7 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 5 K; Austin Finn (W, 1-0): 2 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 K; John Olejnczek: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K; Andrew Lowe (S, 2): 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 1 K.

Hitting: Daytona Bryden: 1x5, 1 RBI; Steve Chamberlain: 1x2, 1 RS; Mikole Pierce: 1x2, 1 RS; Casey Power: 1x4, 2 RBI, 2B; Nick Kuhlman: 1x4, 1 RS, 1 RBI; Adam Gregory: 1x3, 1 RS, 1 RBI; Kyle Haen: 1 RS.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 27, 2015, 10:39:59 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 27, 2015, 04:32:03 PM
Is Platteville for real I would have to say they are and have really good chance of making regionals.  Unfortunately the wiac isn't getting 4 teams.
So now if you win one time in a four game series you are considered "for real" by the one AND ONLY Shinetime? 

Well if that is the case, at least now I understand why you think UWO is "better than their record would indicate" since they also won one time in four attempts against Whitewater.  ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 28, 2015, 09:36:52 AM
Remaining games:

WHITEWATER (26-5, 14-4): @ Stevens Point (2), @ Stout (4)
La Crosse (22-10, 15-7): @ Platteville (2)
Platteville (21-13, 12-6): La Crosse (2), @ Oshkosh (4)
Stevens Point (21-11, 10-8): WHITEWATER (2), Superior (4)
Oshkosh (20-14, 10-10): Platteville (4)

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 29, 2015, 04:38:25 PM
Point stuns whitewater 3 to 2 in game 1.  What a difference a week makes.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2015, 04:48:51 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 29, 2015, 04:38:25 PM
Point stuns whitewater 3 to 2 in game 1.  What a difference a week makes.
I wouldn't say "stuns" is the correct word....  Amazing what happens when Beau pitches closer to the norm and Point plays better defense behind him.

BTW-I thought you said Whitewater can "flat out rake?"  They must have left them in the shed or on the bus in Game #1.  Difference in the game in my opinion, was Whitewater being caught stealing three different times in five attempts.  That is pretty much like only betting to bat eight times instead of nine.

Speaking of "rakes," La Crosse put up 20 runs against Platteville's "great pitching staff" in a 20-1 victory.

The results mean La Crosse and Whitewater are in a virtual tie atop the WIAC standings going into Game #2, although Whitewater holds the edge in the all important loss column by two games.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 29, 2015, 04:55:44 PM
I bet whitewater will mash game 2 no idea who point sends out seeing they put so much emphasis on beating St Scholastica Sunday if Daniels goes game 2 Platteville will have shot to win cejka is virtually unbeatable so good thing they didn't put him out game 1
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2015, 06:24:39 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 29, 2015, 04:55:44 PM
I bet whitewater will mash game 2 no idea who point sends out seeing they put so much emphasis on beating St Scholastica Sunday if Daniels goes game 2 Platteville will have shot to win cejka is virtually unbeatable so good thing they didn't put him out game 1
Well, at least you are consistent!!!!!

Point leads Whitewater 9-0 after three innings and La Crosse leads Platteville 8-1 after five innings...  (Hall go the start for Platteville, not Daniels.)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 29, 2015, 07:14:43 PM
Well my guess is point more than likely locked down a regional berth now unless they **** the bed at superior wasn't counting on them looking like the best team in d3 today. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Westside on April 29, 2015, 07:17:57 PM
This is comedy gold. Watching ShineTime's predictions get worse and worse throughout the year, and cubs always there to put him down.

You two should have a talk-radio show.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2015, 07:20:59 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 29, 2015, 07:14:43 PM
Well my guess is point more than likely locked down a regional berth now unless they **** the bed at superior wasn't counting on them looking like the best team in d3 today.
Well if Platteville is "for real" after winning one out of four against Whitewater, what does that make Point since they won two out of four against the same Whitewater team?  ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2015, 07:22:28 PM
Quote from: Westside on April 29, 2015, 07:17:57 PM
This is comedy gold. Watching ShineTime's predictions get worse and worse throughout the year, and cubs always there to put him down.

You two should have a talk-radio show.
Someone has to point out the error of his ways!!!!

Btw-I'm not putting him down.... just pointing out his errors, again and again and again and again and again......
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 29, 2015, 07:34:50 PM
So whose the most dangerous wiac team come regionals.  I have no idea what to think now after today other than whitewater didn't throw their top 2.  I don't like potential point vs lacrosse match up in wiac tournament cejka is so dominate
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2015, 08:02:51 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 29, 2015, 07:34:50 PM
So whose the most dangerous wiac team come regionals.  I have no idea what to think now after today other than whitewater didn't throw their top 2.  I don't like potential point vs lacrosse match up in wiac tournament cejka is so dominate
Whitewater stumbles even once against Stout and Point won't have to worry about Cejka.

Whitewater sweeps Stout and they get #1 seed and host WIAC Tournament.  Whitewater wins three out of four, and La Crosse hosts and gets #1 seed by virtue of taking three out of four from Point, while Whitewater split with them.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2015, 08:04:36 PM
As long as Platteville splits with UWO this weekend, they wrap up the fourth and final spot in the WIAC Tournament.  UWO needs to take three out of four to "steal" the fourth and final spot.

So who do you have Shine?  The "for real" Platteville to split, or the "better than their record" UWO to take three out of four?

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 29, 2015, 08:37:42 PM
I honestly believe oshkosh will take final spot.  Keeping my fingers crossed point doesn't stumble even once at superior.  Hard to imagine top 3 wiac teams not making regionals especially this year.  Superior has two capable pitchers and most importantly have zero to play for.  Would be impressive to see point go in and absolutely demolish them the way they did Platteville 2 of the 4.  I think stout will take at least one from whitewater they generally seem to play hawks tough.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2015, 11:10:40 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 29, 2015, 08:37:42 PM
I honestly believe oshkosh will take final spot.  Keeping my fingers crossed point doesn't stumble even once at superior.  Hard to imagine top 3 wiac teams not making regionals especially this year.  Superior has two capable pitchers and most importantly have zero to play for.  Would be impressive to see point go in and absolutely demolish them the way they did Platteville 2 of the 4.  I think stout will take at least one from whitewater they generally seem to play hawks tough.
And those two "capable pitchers" have combined to win a grand total of TWO WIAC games (both against a 5-15 Stout team) in 20 attempts thus far...  I'd say Point's chances of getting a four game sweep are pretty good, unless they choose to "rest" a few of their top arms once they clinch a berth in the WIAC Tournament as they are unable to finish any higher than second.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 30, 2015, 12:28:21 PM
Game One:

WARHAWKS (26-6, 14-5): 2
Stevens Point: 3

Point got on the board with a 2 RBI double in the second inning but the WARHAWKS battled back to tie game in the fourth when Casey Power homered and Adam Gregory drove in a run with an RBI single.  The Pointers scored the winning run in the sixth on a solo home run.  The WARHAWKS outhit the Pointers ten to six but stranded twelve runners including eight who were in scoring position and had three runners caught stealing. 

Cubs, the runners caught stealing didn't help anything but the bigger problem in game one was our inability to get a clutch hit when we needed it. 

Pitching: Heath Renz: 2.1 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 3 BB, 4 K; John Olejniczak ( L, 2-1): 5.2 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 3 K.

Hitting: Mikole Pierce: 2x5; Casey Power: 3x4, 1 RS, 1 RBI, HR; Trey Cannon: 2x5, 1 RS, 2B;

Game Two:

WARHAWKS (26-7, 14-6): 5
Stevens Point: 15

Ugly, ugly, ugly.  The Pointers jumped all over the WARHAWKS in the first inning scoring five runs, two earned, on a pair of RBI doubles, an RBI triple, a sacrifice fly and a balk.  Starting pitcher Ankur Shah lasted 0.2 inning.  The Pointers added a sixth run in the second inning on a bases loaded walk and pushed their lead to 9-0 with three more in the third on a three run home run.   The WARHAWKS finally got on the scoreboard with four runs in the fourth inning.  Adam Gregory singled in the first run and Mike Mierow's double brought tallied the second one.  Will Helbing drove in the last two with a double.  However Point wasn't finished scoring.  A home run in the fourth made it 10-4 and five more runs on sacrifice fly, a WARHAWKS throwing error and a three run home run in the fifth put the Pointers up 15-4.  Mikole Pierce's fielders choice brought in a run in the seventh before the game mercifully ended 15-5 by the run rule.  Our pitching was simply atrocious.

Pitching: Ankur Shuh (L, 0-1): 0.2 IP, 4 H, 5 R, 2 ER, 0 BB, 0 K; Austin Finn: 1 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 0 K; Matt Langlie: 1.1 IP, 1 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 2 K; Matt Roberts: 1 IP, 1 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 3 BB, 1 K; Donnie Manke: 2 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 0 K.

Hitting: Nick Kuhlman: 3x4, 2B; Mikole Pierce: 1x4, 1 RBI; Adam Gregory: 1x3, 1 RS, 1 RBI; Mike Mierow: 1x3, 1 RS, 1 RBI, 2B; Will Helbing: 2x3, 1 RS, 2 RBI; Casey Power: 1 RS; Trey Cannon: 1 RS. 

Can the WARHAWKS take 4 of 4 from the Blue Devils?  Aside from hosting does it really matter what seed you are in the conference tournament? 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 30, 2015, 12:48:38 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 30, 2015, 12:28:21 PM
Aside from hosting does it really matter what seed you are in the conference tournament?
I would much rather be the #1 seed and play Platteville/UWO in my first game then be the #2 and get Stevens Point (Beau) right away.... 

But hey, maybe that is just me!!!  ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: John Gleich on April 30, 2015, 01:21:15 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 30, 2015, 12:48:38 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 30, 2015, 12:28:21 PM
Aside from hosting does it really matter what seed you are in the conference tournament?
I would much rather be the #1 seed and play Platteville/UWO in my first game then be the #2 and get Stevens Point (Beau) right away.... 

But hey, maybe that is just me!!!  ;D

Has hosting really mattered in the past? I've only followed baseball a little bit over the years, so I couldn't even tell you who won the tournament. Probably Point or Whitewater based on their post season success.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 30, 2015, 01:43:23 PM
Checking the conference website the #1 seed has won the conference tourney every year except one (2013) since 2009.  For some reason the pages for preceding years aren't available so that was as far back as I could go. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 30, 2015, 01:51:13 PM
Quote from: John Gleich on April 30, 2015, 01:21:15 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 30, 2015, 12:48:38 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 30, 2015, 12:28:21 PM
Aside from hosting does it really matter what seed you are in the conference tournament?
I would much rather be the #1 seed and play Platteville/UWO in my first game then be the #2 and get Stevens Point (Beau) right away.... 

But hey, maybe that is just me!!!  ;D

Has hosting really mattered in the past? I've only followed baseball a little bit over the years, so I couldn't even tell you who won the tournament. Probably Point or Whitewater based on their post season success.
The WIAC Baseball Tournament (as we know it now) has been played for the last 14 years.  Over that time period, the #1 seed has won the tournament seven times.  In the seven years the #1 seed didn't win it, four of them were when it was played off campus at a "neutral" site (Wisconsin Rapids.)

With that said, it sure appears that with the #1 seed wining it 70% of the time they are able to host on campus, it seems to matter!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 30, 2015, 02:00:06 PM
Let's not over think this whitewater will win it their top 3 pitchers and lineup are better than rest.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 30, 2015, 02:09:14 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 30, 2015, 02:00:06 PM
Let's not over think this whitewater will win it their top 3 pitchers and lineup are better than rest.
And we might have just seen the "kiss of death" for the Warhawks!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 30, 2015, 02:13:59 PM
Probably I think la crosse is very good also but come tournament set up I'd bet my pension on hawks.  Point also is capable but not sure if pitching will come through.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 30, 2015, 02:29:02 PM
Let it be known, that regardless of where the tournament is held, Whitewater is my pick as well.... 

Being able to march out Grove/Morgan/Bachar in a double elimination set-up gives them the advantage in my opinion.  I do think the trio of Cejka/Miller/Boushley is good enough to win it as well, but when comparing the two, I like Whitewater's offense just a little more.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 02, 2015, 02:15:03 PM
Where is ben gerber anyone know
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 02, 2015, 09:10:06 PM
Oshkosh can't even get a game what's going on.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 02, 2015, 09:13:56 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 02, 2015, 09:10:06 PM
Oshkosh can't even get a game what's going on.
Really?  Could have sworn they just lost on Wednesday to Ripon College...

Or was that Oshkosh West that played Ripon?  ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 02, 2015, 09:17:07 PM
It was non conference ahead of a huge 4 game weekend series for spot in wiac tournament
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 02, 2015, 09:18:23 PM
Whitewater, Stevens Point and UWO all sweep today....

Whitewater sweeps tomorrow, and they win the Regular Season Championship and host the WIAC Tournament.
Whitewater splits tomorrow, they share Regular Season Championship, but La Crosse earns #1 seed and hosts WIAC Tournament by virtue of tiebreaker.

Platteville sweeps tomorrow, they earn the #4 seed in the WIAC Tournament.
Platteville splits tomorrow, and they finish tied for fourth place, but lose tiebreaker and UWO earns the #4 seed.

Stevens Point is the #3 seed regardless of what their results with Superior are tomorrow, as they hold tiebreakers against both Platteville and UWO.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 02, 2015, 09:23:31 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 02, 2015, 09:17:07 PM
It was non conference ahead of a huge 4 game weekend series for spot in wiac tournament
Doesn't change the fact that they "got a game."

BTW-Stout seemed to give UWO four tough games just last weekend.

BTW2-How is that dominant Platteville pitching staff doing you were bragging about?  They have now been mercy ruled in 7 of their last 14 WIAC games.  You want to retract that statement yet?   ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 02, 2015, 10:02:51 PM
Point still had better sweep tomorrow I'd never want to bank on getting a regional bid finishing 3rd in conference I'd like to think if they sweep tomorrow they'd be in regardless of performance in wiac tournament
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 02, 2015, 10:04:44 PM
No comment on my questions for you?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 02, 2015, 10:27:41 PM
I didn't realize boushley was going to be a non factor this year he was very solid last year and basically having him do nothing has killed Platteville a 1 2 punch of Daniels and a healthy boushley would've helped kind of same deal with point if watson would've been available
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 03, 2015, 09:11:35 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 02, 2015, 10:27:41 PM
I didn't realize boushley was going to be a non factor this year he was very solid last year and basically having him do nothing has killed Platteville a 1 2 punch of Daniels and a healthy boushley would've helped kind of same deal with point if watson would've been available
You mean the same Daniels kid that gave up nine hits and walked eight batters in less than six innings against UWO yesterday? 

If you would just admit that you over-reacted (BIG surprise!!!) to Platteville beating up on a bunch of tomato cans, I would drop it.  We have seen what Platteville has been able to do against WIAC teams not named Stout and Superior.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 03, 2015, 03:37:17 PM
Platteville scores twice in the Top of the 10th inning, but UWO comes back to score three runs (all with two outs) to win Game #1 today 8-7 in 10 innings and clinch a berth in the WIAC Tournament.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 03, 2015, 04:52:06 PM
Point swept superior today looks like Ben miller pitched a gem in 2nd game.  Point has to find a way to beat cejka now.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 03, 2015, 05:11:08 PM
After losing their first game to Stout 9-5 theWARHAWKS softball team battles back to eliminate EauClaire, LaCrosse, Oshkosh and River Falls adding the WIAC tournament championship and automatic bid to the postseason to their 2015 regular season co-championship. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 03, 2015, 05:52:10 PM
Saturday's game one:
WARHAWKS (27-7, 15-6): 10
Stout: 4

The WARHAWKS started scoring right out of the gate with three runs in their first at bat.  Mikole Pierce and Steve Chamberlain each singled in a run and the third run scored when Mike Mierow grounded out.  Trey Cannon's sacrifice fly added a fourth run in the second inning and Cannon made the score 5-0 with an RBI single in the fourth.  Mierow singled in the sixth run in the fifth before the Blue Devils put four on the board with an RBI single and a three run home run.  The WARHAWKS got all three of those runs back in the seventh when Kyle Haen drew a walk with the bases loaded and Nick Kuhlmann drove in a pair with a single.  Pierce's seventh home run of the season in the eighth closed out the scoring.  Lake Bachar pitched a complete game.

Pitching: Lake Bachar (W, 4-1): 9 IP, 3 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 2 BB, 6 K.
Hitting: Nick Kuhlmann: 2x2, 1 RS, 2 RBI; Trey Cannon: 2x6, 1 RS, 2 RBI; Mikole Pierce: 2x4, 2 RS, 2 RBI, 2B, HR; Casey Power: 2x4; Steve Chamberlain: 2x4, 2 RS, 1 RBI; Mike Mierow: 1x4, 1 RS, 1 RBI; Daytona Bryden: 1x3, 1 RS; Kevin White: 1x1, 1 RS; Kyle Haen: 1x3, 1 RS, 1 RBI.

Game two:
WARHAWKS (28-7, 16-6): 6
Stout: 1

Casey Power singled in a run and Mike Mierow's fielders choice ground ball brought in another and staked the WARHAWKS to a 2-0 lead in the first inning.  Power drove in the third run with a single in the fifth.  The Blue Devils got their only run in the seventh.  Daytona Bryden scored on a wild pitch and Mikole Pierce drove in a pair with a single in the eighth to end the scoring.  Mike Nompleggi got the win with the second complete game of the day.

Pitching: Mike Nompleggi (W, 4-0): 9 IP, 6 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 5 K.
Hitting: Nick Kuhlmann: 2x5, 2 RS; Trey Cannon: 2x4, 3 RS, 2B; Mikole Pierce: 1x5, 2 RBI; Casey Power: 3x5, 2 RBI; Steve Chamberlain: 2x4; Adam Gregory: 3x5; Daytona Bryden: 1x4, 1 RS; Kyle Haen: 1x3, 2B; Mike Mierow: 1 RBI.



Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 03, 2015, 06:00:49 PM
Hey Shine...

I know you mentioned this was "Platteville's year" after they started 8-0 in WIAC play. What time/who do they play this weekend in the WIAC Tournament.  ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 03, 2015, 06:08:24 PM
Well u will be happy when oshkosh wins the tourney.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 03, 2015, 06:33:18 PM
Sunday's game one:

WARHAWKS (29-7, 17-6): 5
Stout: 1

After being retired in order in the first three innings the WARHAWKS finally got on the board with a pair of runs in the fifth when Daytona Bryden and Trey Cannon each hit RBI singles.  Stout cut the deficit in half with a run in the seventh before the WARHAWKS got another pair of run in the eighth with an RBI ground out by Casey Power and Steve Chamberlain's RBI single.  Cannon's sacrifice fly in the ninth accounted for the WARHAWKS fifth run.  Colin Grove's five hit complete game was his second in a row and the team's third for the weekend.

Pitching: Colin Grove (W, 8-1): 9 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 5 K.
Hitting: Trey Cannon: 1x4, 1 RS, 2 RBI; Mikole Pierce: 1x4, 1 RS; Steve Chamberlain: 1x4, 1 RBI; Mike Mierow: 1x4, 1 RS; Adam Gregory: 1x4, 1 RS, 2B; Daytona Bryden: 2x4, 1 RS, 1 RBI, 2B; Casey Power: 1 RBI

Game two:
WARHAWKS (30-7, 18-6): 17
Stout: 5

The WARHAWKS put this game away in their second at bat by scoring eight runs.   Nick Kuhlmann and Mikole Pierce each homered in the inning accounting for five of the eight runs.  Adam Gregory had an RBI with a single while Daytona Bryden drove in a run a sacrifice fly and Kyle Haen drove in one with a fielders choice.  Stout got on the board with a run in the bottom of the inning, added two more in the bottom of the fourth and a single run, cutting the deficit to 8-4, in the fifth.  However the WARHAWKS got five runs back in the sixth.  Casey Power's single drove in two and Steve Chamberlain's single followed and drove in another run.  The final two runs of the inning were scored on Mike Mierow's sacrifice bunt.    Stout added a run in the bottom of the inning but the WARHAWKS matched that when Mierow singled in a run in the eighth.  RBI doubles from Kuhlmann and Pierce coupled with a sacrifice fly Chamberlain accounted for three more WARHAWKS runs in the ninth.

Pitching: Curtis Morgan (W, 7-0): 6 IP, 9 H, 5 R, 4 ER, 1 BB, 4 K; John Olejniczak: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K; Austin Finn: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K; Andrew Lowe: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 1 K.
Hitting: Nick Kuhlmann: 2x5, 1 RS, 4 RBI, 2B, HR; Mikole Pierce: 3x5, 3 RS, 3 RBI, 2B, HR; Casey Power: 2x5, 2 RS, 2 RBI; Steve Chamberlain: 4x5, 2 RS, 2 RBI; Mike Mierow: 1x4, 1 RS, 3 RBI; Adam Gregory: 1x3, 1 RS, 1 RBI; Kyle Haen: 3x5, 3 RS; Jordan Kuczynski: 1 RS; Daytona Bryden: 1 RBI.

UW-WHITEWATER WARHAWKS 2015 WIAC CHAMPIONS  .... sweet
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 03, 2015, 06:56:20 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 03, 2015, 06:08:24 PM
Well u will be happy when oshkosh wins the tourney.
Try again.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 05, 2015, 12:59:07 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 03, 2015, 06:00:49 PM
Hey Shine...

I know you mentioned this was "Platteville's year" after they started 8-0 in WIAC play. What time/who do they play this weekend in the WIAC Tournament.  ;D

Enough. We get it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 05, 2015, 01:25:35 PM
I'm just a tad pissed that point and Ripon double header turned in to single game at 330 seeing I had requested leave time at noon.  Beautiful day for ball why did it change from dh.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 05, 2015, 01:45:28 PM
The most probable explanation is that they did it to mess with you.  ;)

The WARHAWKS/Concordia Wi game originally scheduled for 1:00pm was initially changed to a 3:00pm start and now has been canceled all together.  Actually I was surprised to see the time change to begin with.  Unlike the beautiful day in the Ripon/Stevens Point area it has been and is expected to continue raining all day here.  We were never able to reschedule the Ripon double header from earlier this season too. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 05, 2015, 01:54:03 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 05, 2015, 12:59:07 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 03, 2015, 06:00:49 PM
Hey Shine...

I know you mentioned this was "Platteville's year" after they started 8-0 in WIAC play. What time/who do they play this weekend in the WIAC Tournament.  ;D

Enough. We get it.
Fine.... 

Can you give Shine the same "lecture" than too?  He won't listen to any of us, but maybe he will listen to the boss?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on May 05, 2015, 02:01:05 PM
The weather for the next 5 days in Whitewater isn't looking particularly favorable for a tournament. I know the weather "experts" have a few days to adjust their forecast, but it did have our family looking up the rules for cancellations.  >:(
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 05, 2015, 02:10:05 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 05, 2015, 01:54:03 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 05, 2015, 12:59:07 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 03, 2015, 06:00:49 PM
Hey Shine...

I know you mentioned this was "Platteville's year" after they started 8-0 in WIAC play. What time/who do they play this weekend in the WIAC Tournament.  ;D

Enough. We get it.
Fine.... 

Can you give Shine the same "lecture" than too?  He won't listen to any of us, but maybe he will listen to the boss?

What am I supposed to lecture him about, his opinion? My point to you was that you are going overboard in reacting to his opinion.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 05, 2015, 02:10:56 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 05, 2015, 01:25:35 PM
I'm just a tad pissed that point and Ripon double header turned in to single game at 330 seeing I had requested leave time at noon.  Beautiful day for ball why did it change from dh.
With both teams coming off a four game weekend and both needing to win at least three games this weekend, I'm guessing the coaches chose to try rest their pitching staff as a whole with just the single game. 

Plus lets say Point throws their #8-10 guys and loses a pair of games.  It could negatively affect their chances at a Pool C bid.  Is that really worth the extra game?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 05, 2015, 02:20:51 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 05, 2015, 02:10:05 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 05, 2015, 01:54:03 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 05, 2015, 12:59:07 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 03, 2015, 06:00:49 PM
Hey Shine...

I know you mentioned this was "Platteville's year" after they started 8-0 in WIAC play. What time/who do they play this weekend in the WIAC Tournament.  ;D

Enough. We get it.
Fine.... 

Can you give Shine the same "lecture" than too?  He won't listen to any of us, but maybe he will listen to the boss?

What am I supposed to lecture him about, his opinion? My point to you was that you are going overboard in reacting to his opinion.
Since it's ok for him to give his opinion, why are you singling me out for giving my opinion on his opinion?  Just because I am the only one to respond to him?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 05, 2015, 02:29:47 PM
I think you probably understand what I'm getting at here, but for those who don't:

1. There's a difference between someone expressing an opinion on the subject at hand (WIAC baseball) and someone expressing an opinion on someone else's opinion.

2. There's a huge difference when you continue to badger the other person multiple times over it. That's attacking another poster, and that's why I called it out.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 05, 2015, 02:35:44 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 05, 2015, 02:29:47 PM
I think you probably understand what I'm getting at here, but for those who don't:

1. There's a difference between someone expressing an opinion on the subject at hand (WIAC baseball) and someone expressing an opinion on someone else's opinion.

2. There's a huge difference when you continue to badger the other person multiple times over it. That's attacking another poster, and that's why I called it out.
While ultimately you aren't going to agree with me regardless of what I say, I am at least "attacking" (and I disagree with that term) his opinion with facts...  HUGE difference in my eyes!!!

While you feel I am attacking him, our conversations (both on the boards and via PM) seem to be pretty civil, but I guess you would have to ask Shine...

If it really is that big of a problem, then so be it...  It's not as if I am pulling a Spence or anything like that!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 05, 2015, 02:38:41 PM
BTW-Since you are on the boards right now, can you fill us in on what happened to former columnist Ricky Nelson (OshDude?) 

I really enjoyed reading the articles he put together in your Around the Nation section and have really missed it this year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 05, 2015, 02:47:32 PM
I'd just like to add that I'm not offended or upset in any manner whatsoever I enjoy the boards and know cubs is very credible.  The bottom line is I am a huge pointer fan and have to learn not to flip out every time they lose. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 05, 2015, 02:50:43 PM
+1 ShineTime
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BDB on May 05, 2015, 02:54:26 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 05, 2015, 01:45:28 PM
The most probable explanation is that they did it to mess with you.  ;)

Ha! Good one BW.  8-)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 05, 2015, 02:55:14 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on May 05, 2015, 02:50:43 PM
+1 ShineTime
Actually +2...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 05, 2015, 03:09:30 PM
It's just about having fun I've never been offended in my life.  There's a ton of knowledge on this site and any uproar is generally brought upon by my ideotic comments. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 05, 2015, 03:16:42 PM
I know this is from another conference, but many WIAC programs are geographically close to Ripon. Anyone have info on this story out of Ripon?(And this is where the action is today)

http://www.riponpress.com/main.asp?SectionID=3&SubSectionID=171&ArticleID=8472 (http://www.riponpress.com/main.asp?SectionID=3&SubSectionID=171&ArticleID=8472)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 05, 2015, 03:20:16 PM
What is an "administrator in the dugout?"   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 05, 2015, 03:23:51 PM
Let's pray it's nothing criminal I've heard nothing but good about him.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 05, 2015, 03:24:50 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 05, 2015, 03:20:16 PM
What is an "administrator in the dugout?"   
I'm guessing someone who is actually on the administrative staff...  (I believe Ernst is the assistant athletic director at Ripon.)

It probably has more to due with the fact that Schumann isn't a full time staff member so they are covering their behind liability wise.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 05, 2015, 03:25:43 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 05, 2015, 03:16:42 PM
I know this is from another conference, but many WIAC programs are geographically close to Ripon. Anyone have info on this story out of Ripon?(And this is where the action is today)

http://www.riponpress.com/main.asp?SectionID=3&SubSectionID=171&ArticleID=8472 (http://www.riponpress.com/main.asp?SectionID=3&SubSectionID=171&ArticleID=8472)
Where did you find that article?  ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 05, 2015, 04:03:28 PM
Sounds like 1 or 2 guys on team complained about coach being verbally abusive.  Obviously I wasn't in the dugout but that sounds pretty minor if indeed that's the case.  Physical violence I can totally understand but a coach yelling at a player well that's part of life in my opinion
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 05, 2015, 04:15:58 PM
And if that's the case I cannot understand why he would get admin leave, especially since it is unsubstantiated, or as the school put it need more info. It does not look like any one was in any physical danger.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 05, 2015, 05:18:34 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 05, 2015, 02:38:41 PM
BTW-Since you are on the boards right now, can you fill us in on what happened to former columnist Ricky Nelson (OshDude?) 

I really enjoyed reading the articles he put together in your Around the Nation section and have really missed it this year.

Me too. Ricky put a lot of time and effort into ATN and really elevated the site with his contributions. He has been difficult to replace, which is why we haven't done so. There are probably only a few people in the entire country who could do what he did for us.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 05, 2015, 08:09:00 PM
Huge win for point against a quality Ripon team.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 05, 2015, 08:18:10 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 05, 2015, 08:09:00 PM
Huge win for point against a quality Ripon team.
Always exciting when the tying run gets thrown out at the plate to end the game!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 05, 2015, 08:29:35 PM
Ripon has some good left handed pitchers a few should transfer to point and fast.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 06, 2015, 08:09:05 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 05, 2015, 04:03:28 PM
Sounds like 1 or 2 guys on team complained about coach being verbally abusive.  Obviously I wasn't in the dugout but that sounds pretty minor if indeed that's the case.  Physical violence I can totally understand but a coach yelling at a player well that's part of life in my opinion

Chapman let their coach go two years ago for verbal abuse. Program has not recovered from it yet.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 06, 2015, 08:57:33 AM
Do you guys believe whitewater lacrosse and point are all locks for regionals.  Does point need to avoid going 0 and 2 or are they a lock based on sos and regional ranking.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 06, 2015, 09:52:42 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 06, 2015, 08:57:33 AM
Do you guys believe whitewater lacrosse and point are all locks for regionals.  Does point need to avoid going 0 and 2 or are they a lock based on sos and regional ranking.

I think they are locks and just playing for seeding this weekend. Might be nice to see the top two WIAC programs get split apart into different regionals. Give them a chance to get two teams in the World Series.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 06, 2015, 09:59:34 AM
Since La Crosse is hosting a regional, it would have to be UW-Stevens Point or UW-Whitewater getting moved to a different region. Wartburg would still be well within the 500-mile "bus ride radius" for UWSP and UWW so one could certainly go there. It seems unlikely that both UWW and UWSP would get sent to a different region leaving UWL alone.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on May 06, 2015, 10:06:52 AM
Didn't Point get sent out West somewhere last year?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 06, 2015, 10:12:26 AM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on May 06, 2015, 10:06:52 AM
Didn't Point get sent out West somewhere last year?
Yes, Point was sent to Linfield last year. This year, there's no regional on the West Coast.

http://www.d3baseball.com/playoffs/2015/playoff-central
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dachampishere on May 07, 2015, 03:26:56 PM
So with the regional set to be played at Lacrosse does that mean UW-Whitewater will not be hosting one like the last number of years  :'(
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 07, 2015, 04:52:32 PM
Quote from: dachampishere on May 07, 2015, 03:26:56 PM
So with the regional set to be played at Lacrosse does that mean UW-Whitewater will not be hosting one like the last number of years  :'(
Correct...  Baseball Regional locations are set ahead of time, unlike basketball.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 07, 2015, 05:37:12 PM
Former Steven Point Pitcher J.P. Feyereisen has been dominant thus far for the Class A Lake County Captains (Cleveland Indians) of the Midwest League. 

Feyereisen has appeared in 9 games thus far, accumulating a 14/2 K-BB ratio, while giving up just two hits in 9 innings pitched.  Feyereisen has converted six saves in six opportunities.  Opponents are hitting .074 against Feyereisen thus far in the season.

It will be interesting to see if Feyereisen can continue his dominance, and if so, how long it will be before he sees a promotion.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2015, 11:10:47 AM
Messenger vs Bachar in the first game of the WIAC Tournament today....  The Warhawks jump on Messenger early with three hits in the first inning and have a 2-0 lead after one inning.

This will be the third time Whitewater has faced Messenger, as they defeated him 4-0 back in April.  In round two during the regular season, Bachar came on in relief and picked up a 5-4 victory over Messenger and UWO. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 08, 2015, 11:56:54 AM
Whitewater will be sitting good if they win starting their 3.  Either way I'm not sure this tournament means much for whitewater as long as they don't go 0 and 2.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2015, 11:59:14 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 08, 2015, 11:56:54 AM
Whitewater will be sitting good if they win starting their 3.  Either way I'm not sure this tournament means much for whitewater as long as they don't go 0 and 2.
I actually think Bachar has pitched better than Morgan this season...  Grove is clearly the Warhawks #1, but an argument could be made that Bachar is their #2, and not Morgan based on their results on the mound to date.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 08, 2015, 01:08:43 PM
It will be interesting to see if lacrosse throws cejka now.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2015, 01:09:38 PM
Whitewater 5
UWO 2

FINAL

Point/La Crosse winner to get Grove and the Warhawks at 7:00 PM tonight.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2015, 01:10:47 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 08, 2015, 01:08:43 PM
It will be interesting to see if lacrosse throws cejka now.
In my opinion, they have to....  Would make zero sense to "save" him.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Westside on May 08, 2015, 01:11:06 PM
Man, the Whitewater stream is so nice. It is better than the NCAA's World Series stream, better quality too.

I love watching this conference play. Such high quality.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 08, 2015, 01:22:40 PM
I was just thinking if they beat point with miller or boushley they'd have cejka vs grove.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2015, 01:37:58 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 08, 2015, 01:22:40 PM
I was just thinking if they beat point with miller or boushley they'd have cejka vs grove.
Not worth it in my opinion...  Neither Miller or Boushley threw very well against Point in the regular season.  (Miller-4 runs in 3 IP and Boushley 5 runs in 5 IP.)  In addition, both Miller and Boushley beat Whitewater in regular season, which could provide some extra confidence if they get to that match-up.  (Whitewater beat Cejka the lone time they faced him.)

Add it all up, and easy choice to throw Cejka, and one that was already made before today.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 08, 2015, 01:40:07 PM
Hopefully point can find a way against cejka they've seemed to have difficult time with him.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2015, 04:28:48 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 10, 2015, 11:16:18 PM
While Beau is probably more well known for his football exploits around the WIAC, he is a very nice baseball player!!!  Beau and Kowalke could end up playing a BIG role on the mound for the Pointers.
Gonna pat myself on the back for this one!!!!   ;D

Can't ask for much more than a 2-0 CG Shutout in the WIAC Tournament!!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 08, 2015, 05:59:21 PM
It's rather impressive to say the least without beau hard telling where point would be.  Kowalke will need to pitch game of life to win tonight though.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 08, 2015, 07:09:07 PM
What a poor showing by eagles I would assume this will hurt their seeding mightily for regionals.  Looks like oshkosh isn't done yet.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2015, 10:38:41 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 08, 2015, 07:09:07 PM
What a poor showing by eagles I would assume this will hurt their seeding mightily for regionals.  Looks like oshkosh isn't done yet.
Better question is does an 0-2 showing knock them out of Regionals altogether?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 08, 2015, 11:08:32 PM
I can't imagine it would given regional ranking and 2nd place regular season.  I just think they are 4 5 or 6 now instead of top 3 seed.  I think whitewater will get shipped and be a 1 wherever they go.  If point finds way to win tourney I could see them being a 1 or 2 in lacrosse regional based on their finish.  That's a big if though as to whether they can beat whitewater.  Beau can't pitch every game unfortunately.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2015, 02:06:21 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 08, 2015, 11:08:32 PM
I can't imagine it would given regional ranking and 2nd place regular season. I just think they are 4 5 or 6 now instead of top 3 seed. I think whitewater will get shipped and be a 1 wherever they go.  If point finds way to win tourney I could see them being a 1 or 2 in lacrosse regional based on their finish.  That's a big if though as to whether they can beat whitewater.  Beau can't pitch every game unfortunately.
As a five or six, they may never even get to the table to be considered for a Pool C bid, as they would be behind Point/Whitewater loser and possibly the MIAC loser...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on May 09, 2015, 08:27:47 AM
UWW's recap story last night says Game 7 (if necessary) would be played Sunday at a time TBD. WIAC website says it would be played at 7pm Saturday night. Anyone happen to know which is correct?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on May 09, 2015, 08:58:33 AM
As I read the WIAC championship tournament handbook, it appears that if a game 7 is necessary, it would need to be on Sunday because one team would have played three games on Saturday. Odd that their website doesn't take that into account. Perhaps I'm missing something.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 09, 2015, 10:00:07 AM
I think LaCrosse is still in the regional and they will play in LaCrosse.  The really, really surprising thing to me yesterday, as far as LaCrosse is concerned, it that it took them 17 innings to score a run.  With that offense I just wouldn't have thought that possible.  Five errors in their loss to Oshkosh obviously really hurt them. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2015, 12:42:11 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 08, 2015, 04:28:48 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 10, 2015, 11:16:18 PM
While Beau is probably more well known for his football exploits around the WIAC, he is a very nice baseball player!!!  Beau and Kowalke could end up playing a BIG role on the mound for the Pointers.
Gonna pat myself on the back for this one!!!!   ;D

Can't ask for much more than a 2-0 CG Shutout in the WIAC Tournament!!!!
Just in case anyone missed it the first time!!!!   ;D

Game 1-Beau CG Shutout to beat La Crosse 2-0

Game 2-Kowalke 5.2 Scoreless Innings Pitched and leaves with a 5-0 lead over Colin Grove and Whitewater
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 09, 2015, 01:21:37 PM
18 innings 0 runs unbelievable point should go ben miller now.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: GBMAN on May 09, 2015, 10:20:23 PM
Wisconsin Whitewater defeats Oshkosh and then Point to force a noon game on
Sunday for all the marbles.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 10, 2015, 10:21:17 AM
I thought it odd that it took LaCrosse so many innings to score and then we turn around and do the same thing Saturday.  The baseball god's are a fickle lot. 

Given that I think LaCrosse, Point and WHITEWATER are all still going to be in the post season and that the NCAA won't send three teams from the same league to the same regional I'm wondering if the loser of today's game is headed somewhere else like the Wartburg regional.   Or I suppose it's possible that the winner could be shipped out too.  Obviously LaCrosse isn't headed anywhere else. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 10, 2015, 10:29:56 AM
I'm gonna say Point is shipped regardless...  Whitewater won regular season title and made it to tournament championship.  That should be enough to keep them "home."

Any guesses on starters for today's championship? 

I would think it will be Renz vs Miller....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 10, 2015, 01:19:07 PM
Looks like ben miller won't last an inning whitewater is playing like whitewater and this one may be over fast.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 10, 2015, 03:15:10 PM
Spoke to fast point up 8 to 7 in 7th.  Prebelski came up huge for pointers
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 10, 2015, 03:31:48 PM
Today is a prime example of two teams that likely know they are already going to make Regionals, so they don't have a "must win attitude."  Both teams are scraping the bottom of their pitching rotations and it is showing.  Had this been a "win and in, loser go home" type game, I have a funny feeling both teams would have sent some different pitchers to the mound on short rest.

Instead we see a 9-7 game after seven innings, where pitchers have combined to walk seven, hit two batters, throw three wild pitches and commit a balk....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 10, 2015, 03:51:40 PM
Whitewater has walked ten Pointer batters this afternoon... Nine of them have scored!!!

Point leads 13-7 in Bottom 8th
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 10, 2015, 03:58:55 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 10, 2015, 03:31:48 PM
Today is a prime example of two teams that likely know they are already going to make Regionals, so they don't have a "must win attitude."  Both teams are scraping the bottom of their pitching rotations and it is showing. Had this been a "win and in, loser go home" type game, I have a funny feeling both teams would have sent some different pitchers to the mound on short rest.

Instead we see a 9-7 game after seven innings, where pitchers have combined to walk seven, hit two batters, throw three wild pitches and commit a balk....
And with that said, Point calls on Mitch Beau with two outs in the 8th inning to try and preserve the 13-7 lead...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 10, 2015, 04:14:38 PM
Beau truly is a bulldog but I don't understand the decision don't regionals begin Wednesday. Either way very impressive to see point fight back and win it the way they did.  I also believe they'll be at Wartburg and be a 2 or 3.  Did St Thomas win today I actually think they could be dangerous if they get in.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 10, 2015, 04:26:02 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 10, 2015, 04:14:38 PM
Beau truly is a bulldog but I don't understand the decision don't regionals begin Wednesday. Either way very impressive to see point fight back and win it the way they did.  I also believe they'll be at Wartburg and be a 2 or 3.  Did St Thomas win today I actually think they could be dangerous if they get in.
Today was likely Beau's throw day, so he just did it in game action instead of in the bullpen after the game.

St. John's beat St. Thomas 9-6 in Game #1 to force second championship...

SJU was leading UST 3-1 in the 8th inning last I saw...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: biggio34 on May 10, 2015, 04:55:09 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 10, 2015, 04:26:02 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 10, 2015, 04:14:38 PM
Beau truly is a bulldog but I don't understand the decision don't regionals begin Wednesday. Either way very impressive to see point fight back and win it the way they did.  I also believe they'll be at Wartburg and be a 2 or 3.  Did St Thomas win today I actually think they could be dangerous if they get in.
Today was likely Beau's throw day, so he just did it in game action instead of in the bullpen after the game.

St. John's beat St. Thomas 9-6 in Game #1 to force second championship...

SJU was leading UST 3-1 in the 8th inning last I saw...

5-1 SJU still batting in the top of 9.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 10, 2015, 05:04:07 PM
Eleven walks!   I don't care if you're throwing your third string right fielder that is just some butt ugly pitching.  Hopefully our staff has that out of their system.  Nothing to do now but put it behind us and move on. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: GBMAN on May 11, 2015, 08:11:35 AM
Wisconsin Whitewater and LAX at LAX

Point to Wartburg
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: GBMAN on May 11, 2015, 08:14:18 AM
http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2015/05/2015-playoff-field
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 11, 2015, 09:32:43 AM
I feel like it's been a long time (if ever) that the Midwest Regional was an 8-team event. Seems like it's always been 6 as long as I remember. Definitely increases the difficulty to win it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 11, 2015, 10:18:43 AM
Seeding and pairings for the Midwest Regional:

Wednesday, May 13, 2015
Game #1 - Saint John's University, Minn. (#4 seed) vs. Coe College, Iowa (#5) - 10 a.m.
Game #2 - UW-Whitewater (#1) vs. Ripon College, Wis. (#8) - 1:15 p.m.
Game #3 - Washington University, Mo. (#3) vs. Concordia University-Chicago, Ill. (#6) - 4:30 p.m.
Game #4 - UW-La Crosse (#2) vs. The College of St. Scholastica, Minn. (#7) - 7:45 p.m.

http://www.uwlathletics.com/news/2015/5/10/BB_0510153405.aspx?path=baseball
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 11, 2015, 11:36:41 AM
Here's the Central Regional...

Central Region Hosted by Wartburg, Waverly, Iowa
No. 1 UW-Stevens Point vs. No. 6 Greenville
No. 2 Webster vs. No. 5 Carthage
No. 3 Wartburg vs. No. 4 Anderson

http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2015/05/2015-playoff-field
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 11, 2015, 11:46:47 AM
Stevens Point goes from a team that one individual thought would struggle to make WIAC Tournament to being a #1 seed in their regional.  Not bad!!!  ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 11, 2015, 01:18:27 PM
I can tell you with 100 percent certainty though that after point lost 3 of 4 at lacrosse and then lost two vs whitewater I wasn't alone in thinking there was no way they'd make regionals.  Either way still a ton of work ahead and hopefully point will take advantage of the 6 team regional.  Any way point goes kowalke game 1.  I don't think they will based on fact beau has shown he's a warrior and could probably throw again pretty quick. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 11, 2015, 02:25:56 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 11, 2015, 01:18:27 PM
I can tell you with 100 percent certainty though that after point lost 3 of 4 at lacrosse and then lost two vs whitewater I wasn't alone in thinking there was no way they'd make regionals.  Either way still a ton of work ahead and hopefully point will take advantage of the 6 team regional.  Any way point goes kowalke game 1.  I don't think they will based on fact beau has shown he's a warrior and could probably throw again pretty quick.
I wasn't talking about that...  I was going back to when you thought they wouldn't finish in the Top 3 in the WIAC standings because they didn't "address the catcher position" or have any experience coming back to pitch.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 12, 2015, 03:04:27 PM
WIAC All-Conference

http://www.wiacsports.com/documents/2015/5/12//2015BaseballAllConf.pdf?id=3136
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 12, 2015, 11:07:56 PM
The Journal Sentinel's Jeff Potrykus with a nice article on WIAC Pitcher of the Year Mitch Beau...

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/statecolleges/after-layoff-from-baseball-mitch-beau-ace-of-staff-at-uw-stevens-point-b99498608z1-303535451.html
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 16, 2015, 02:01:28 PM
Whitewater implodes! Blows 7-0 lead in last three innings, gives up 5 in the ninth to lose to CUC on a single, groundout, fly out, walk, walk, walk, balk, double, single.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brian R. Carroll on May 16, 2015, 08:27:41 PM
UWL bounced Carthage of Chicago from the tourney by a score of 10-3, but will the pitching hold up ? We need two wins Sunday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brian R. Carroll on May 16, 2015, 08:34:45 PM
I must apologize. I said UWL defeatrd Carthage. It was Concordia of Chicago. My apologies to anyone I may have offended. Concordia played great baseball, and is worthy of our respect. Again, I am sorry for the error.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 16, 2015, 10:09:33 PM
Point is ice cold at the plate they are down to 6 outs not looking good.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on May 16, 2015, 10:13:25 PM
Quote from: Brian R. Carroll on May 16, 2015, 08:34:45 PM
I must apologize. I said UWL defeatrd Carthage. It was Concordia of Chicago. My apologies to anyone I may have offended. Concordia played great baseball, and is worthy of our respect. Again, I am sorry for the error.

Well the head coach has Carthage ties lol. Surprised that CUC made the run they did after they were 8-11 at one point during the season. Going 25-4 the rest of the way is tremendous. Way to make the NACC proud CUC!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: mr_b on May 16, 2015, 10:42:57 PM
Webster eliminates Point, 4-2.  The Pointers leave the bases loaded in the 9th.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 17, 2015, 07:20:29 AM
Point has so much to replace for next year.  Hoping watson can return to be at top of staff and that kowalke can pitch consistently next year.  Guessing Strommen Kranz and guckinberg will all need to play major roles.  Greco more than likely moves to short.  No idea where the power will come from.  Either way this regional disaster is hard to swallow feel like point had golden opportunity more than ever being shipped to 6 team regional.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 17, 2015, 06:15:33 PM
Let's go la crosse give me and the kids more reason to go to appleton.  Not the same without a wisconsin team or St Thomas in it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bulk19 on May 17, 2015, 08:05:37 PM
Congrats to the UWL Eagles...
Safe travels to the Fox Valley, and good luck!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 17, 2015, 08:42:32 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 17, 2015, 07:20:29 AM
Point has so much to replace for next year.  Hoping watson can return to be at top of staff and that kowalke can pitch consistently next year.  Guessing Strommen Kranz and guckinberg will all need to play major roles.  Greco more than likely moves to short.  No idea where the power will come from.  Either way this regional disaster is hard to swallow feel like point had golden opportunity more than ever being shipped to 6 team regional.

So do the WARHAWKS.  We only return third base and center field.  We lose Grove but do return several pitchers and expect Austin Jones to be healthy enough to contribute.  The staff has a lot of holes to fill. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 17, 2015, 09:50:39 PM
I think whitewater has a big edge though over point with returning pitchers.  If watson is eligible and himself I think it would be even.  I think some of points position players could step up such as Kranz strommen and guckinberg maybe schultz at 2nd perhaps gerber moves to 2nd I have no idea all I know is it will be a long time before point has a group of seniors that could rake like these guys.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 18, 2015, 01:03:57 PM
D3 All Midwest Region team:

First team:
Mikole Pierce, Colin Grove - Whitewater
Cody Hanke, Mitch Beau - Stevens Point
Justin Anderson, Jason Sadowske - Lacrosse

Second team:
Casey Power, Steve Chamberlain - Whitewater
Alex Cordova, Taylor Kohlwey - Lacrosse

Third team:
Lake Bachar - Whitewater
Ben Cejka - Lacrosse

Player of the Year:
Cody Hanke - Stevens Point

Pitcher of the Year:
Mitch Beau - Stevens Point

Rookie of the Year:
Lake Bachar - Whitewater

Coach of the Year:
Chris Schwartz - LaCrosse
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 18, 2015, 11:16:50 PM
Way to early predictions for next year.  1.  Oshkosh. 2. Lacrosse. 3.  Whitewater. 4.  Point  5.  Platteville. 6.  Stout.   Oshkosh came on really strong and appear to be going in the right direction.  Lacrosse returns some good sticks however loses cejka.  Whitewater loses a lot but return power chamberlain and Bachar.  Point will return the least amount of quality talent I can recall however if some of those guys play out of their mind and with a chip on their shoulder who knows I guess.  Luke watsons potential return would be a huge boost I just don't know how they'll score next year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 19, 2015, 09:15:54 AM
Power is a senior and had used all of his eligibility.  The roster listing him as a junior is incorrect. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on May 20, 2015, 09:25:10 AM
More All-Regional Honors for WIAC players  ;D

http://www.abca.org/awards/all-region/2015/2015_ncaa_d3_all-region (http://www.abca.org/awards/all-region/2015/2015_ncaa_d3_all-region)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bulk19 on May 22, 2015, 12:05:43 PM
Good luck to UWL's Eagles this weekend, and hopefully into next week!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: GBMAN on May 24, 2015, 01:11:27 AM
LAX defeats Emory in 12 innings 3-2
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 24, 2015, 01:14:47 AM
La Crosse needs one win to advance to the Best-Of-Three Championship series at the D3 College World Series after beating Emory 3-2 in 13 innings tonight.  Jameson Sadowske with 6 scoreless innings of relief (he did allow both inherited runners to score) to pick up victory. 

La Crosse gets to "rest" tomorrow afternoon while two Emory and Trinity play each other to see who gets to face La Crosse (and more than likely Caleb Boushley) tomorrow night.  The winner of Emory and Trinity will need to beat La Crosse twice to advance to the finals.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 24, 2015, 10:30:05 AM
It doesn't get much better than this a program that nearly collapsed a few years back sitting in the drivers seat at the world series.  Also more impressive is lacrosse looked dead at wiac tournament gets the regional bid and escaped an awesome regional.  I personally didn't think they had enough offense to win more than a game this weekend but their staff has been stellar.  Hopefully they at least get to face Cortland I'm not sure Cortland will lose a game this weekend though.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bulk19 on May 24, 2015, 10:42:28 AM
Hey cubs and ShineTime and GBMan -

Did you guys follow along on the UWL-Emory game video last night? I lost the feed at about quarter to midnight - the 11th inning - and wasn't able to get it back?   ???

Go Eagles!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 24, 2015, 11:02:12 AM
Quote from: bulk19 on May 24, 2015, 10:42:28 AM
Hey cubs and ShineTime and GBMan -

Did you guys follow along on the UWL-Emory game video last night? I lost the feed at about quarter to midnight - the 11th inning - and wasn't able to get it back?   ???

Go Eagles!
I was watching Anthiny Rizzo beat the D-Backs and following La Crosse on the live stats...  ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 24, 2015, 11:03:40 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 24, 2015, 10:30:05 AM
It doesn't get much better than this a program that nearly collapsed a few years back sitting in the drivers seat at the world series. Also more impressive is lacrosse looked dead at wiac tournament gets the regional bid and escaped an awesome regional.  I personally didn't think they had enough offense to win more than a game this weekend but their staff has been stellar.  Hopefully they at least get to face Cortland I'm not sure Cortland will lose a game this weekend though.
Not sure I would go as far as saying the "drivers seat" because Cortland is in the exact same position...  Unless you use two drivers in your car!!!   :D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 24, 2015, 03:20:01 PM
Due to rainy weather, a maximum of two games will get played at the College World Series today, meaning La Crosse gets the day off as only the two elimination games will be played.

EDIT:  Now the entire slate of games has been washed out, meaning all six of the remaining teams see their pitching rotations get a rest.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: GBMAN on May 25, 2015, 09:39:58 AM
Quote from: bulk19 on May 24, 2015, 10:42:28 AM
Hey cubs and ShineTime and GBMan -

Did you guys follow along on the UWL-Emory game video last night? I lost the feed at about quarter to midnight - the 11th inning - and wasn't able to get it back?   ???

Go Eagles!
I watched the entire thing. Did not lose the feed
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BDB on May 25, 2015, 10:38:02 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 24, 2015, 03:20:01 PM
EDIT:  Now the entire slate of games has been washed out, meaning all six of the remaining teams see their pitching rotations get a rest.

Cubs, which team(s) does this day off favor in your opinion?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: GBMAN on May 25, 2015, 05:28:39 PM
Quote from: BlueDevil Bob on May 25, 2015, 10:38:02 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 24, 2015, 03:20:01 PM
EDIT:  Now the entire slate of games has been washed out, meaning all six of the remaining teams see their pitching rotations get a rest.

Cubs, which team(s) does this day off favor in your opinion?

LAX will benefit as will Cortland
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 25, 2015, 10:09:38 PM
Looks like La Crosse is rolling the dice and trying to pull out a win with Kenkel starting tonight....  They win, and they get Cejka and Boushley fresh to start the best-of-three series.  They lose, they still have Boushley or Cejka to start in the elimination game.

With that said, Trinity was the team I thought had the deepest rotation coming onto the CWS.  They are the one team that probably didn't like having everything washed out yesterday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 26, 2015, 12:21:21 PM
Well if you are Cortland, while you might not admit it, you are definitely pulling for La Crosse to win today.  The Eagles decided to start Cejka, meaning he would likely be unavailable for the best-of-three series, while Trinity countered with their #4/5 guy.  (They legitimately have five top of the line starters, as all five have started a minimum of seven games and thrown at least 55 innings or more.

If Trinity wins, they will be back to the top of their rotation, while La Crosse would be without their #1.  Easy to see why Cortland fans would like the match-up with La Crosse more!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 26, 2015, 12:37:04 PM
Whatever Lacrosse needs to do they need to do it in a hurry or Trinity is going to run away with this one.

*And as I write that Trinity tags up on both second and first on a fly ball to center.  Trinity has been unbelievable aggressive the entire weekend and they have benefited from it, but I wonder if it will come back and bite them at some point today.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 26, 2015, 12:44:27 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 26, 2015, 12:37:04 PM
Whatever Lacrosse needs to do they need to do it in a hurry or Trinity is going to run away with this one.

*And as I write that Trinity tags up on both second and first on a fly ball to center.  Trinity has been unbelievable aggressive the entire weekend and they have benefited from it, but I wonder if it will come back and bite them at some point today.
I will say that I do think Trinity and Cortland were the best teams from each Pool.  If La Crosse can get a victory today, I would be surprised.  They just haven't done a whole lot offensively since Friday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 26, 2015, 02:32:06 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 26, 2015, 12:44:27 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 26, 2015, 12:37:04 PM
Whatever Lacrosse needs to do they need to do it in a hurry or Trinity is going to run away with this one.

*And as I write that Trinity tags up on both second and first on a fly ball to center.  Trinity has been unbelievable aggressive the entire weekend and they have benefited from it, but I wonder if it will come back and bite them at some point today.
I will say that I do think Trinity and Cortland were the best teams from each Pool.  If La Crosse can get a victory today, I would be surprised.  They just haven't done a whole lot offensively since Friday.
And right on cue, La Crosse scores 9 runs over the course of four innings to turn a 3-0 deficit into a 9-3 lead as they head to the 8th inning....

In the process though, they have had to use both Cejka and Boushley, which will undoubtedly leave their rotation thin in the event they hold on and get six more outs.

La Crosse 9
Trinity 3

Rain Delay-Top 8th Inning

EDIT-Appears Rain Delay will last until at least 6:30 PM local time...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brian R. Carroll on May 26, 2015, 08:55:23 PM
UWL advances to the championship series. Congratulations to the Eagles.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on May 27, 2015, 12:28:28 AM
Cortland State wins the first game of the Championship Series by an 11-3 final score. First game tomorrow at 12:00 Noon EST.  2nd game at 3:30 PM EST if necessary. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 01, 2015, 11:48:07 AM
The WIAC in the Northwoods League

Lakeshore: Lake Bachar, WW
Duluth: Brock Rude, La Crosse
Eau Claire: Brady Burzynski, Stout
Green Bay: Ben Messenger, Oshkosh; Tyler Kozlowski, Oshkosh
Kenosha: Andrew Brahier, Oshkosh
Wisconsin: Peter Jewell, Oshkosh; Cody Hanke, Stevens Point; Mike Nompleggi, WW; Daytona Bryden, WW
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on June 01, 2015, 12:17:39 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on June 01, 2015, 11:48:07 AM
The WIAC in the Northwoods League

Lakeshore: Lake Bachar, WW
Duluth: Brock Rude, La Crosse
Eau Claire: Brady Burzynski, Stout
Green Bay: Ben Messenger, Oshkosh; Tyler Kozlowski, Oshkosh
Kenosha: Andrew Brahier, Oshkosh
Wisconsin: Peter Jewell, Oshkosh; Cody Hanke, Stevens Point; Mike Nompleggi, WW; Daytona Bryden, WW

Cool. This is a good time for D-III guys to make an impression in the NWL while many D-I guys are still playing in the NCAA Tournament. A good performance might convince the NWL team to keep a guy around even after the D-I guys come back.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 01, 2015, 01:55:43 PM
Wasn't hanke a senior.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on June 01, 2015, 02:01:04 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on June 01, 2015, 01:55:43 PM
Wasn't hanke a senior.

His sophomore year was cut short by injury, so I'm guessing he was granted a redshirt season. He may not intend to play at UWSP next year if he already has his degree (so they listed him as a senior on the roster), but as long as he has a year of collegiate eligibility left he's still eligible to play in the NWL.

It's not uncommon in D-III for a player to be granted a medical redshirt, but then not use it because they choose to graduate and move on.

I don't know the situation, but that's my educated guess.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 02, 2015, 08:06:32 AM
Thanks my guess is hanke will be back and hopefully watson.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 02, 2015, 12:45:11 PM
A couple more I noticed today:

Wisconsin: Taylor Kohlway, La Crosse
La Crosse: Ben Cejka, La Crosse
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on June 03, 2015, 03:37:52 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on June 01, 2015, 12:17:39 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on June 01, 2015, 11:48:07 AM
The WIAC in the Northwoods League

Lakeshore: Lake Bachar, WW
Duluth: Brock Rude, La Crosse
Eau Claire: Brady Burzynski, Stout
Green Bay: Ben Messenger, Oshkosh; Tyler Kozlowski, Oshkosh
Kenosha: Andrew Brahier, Oshkosh
Wisconsin: Peter Jewell, Oshkosh; Cody Hanke, Stevens Point; Mike Nompleggi, WW; Daytona Bryden, WW

Cool. This is a good time for D-III guys to make an impression in the NWL while many D-I guys are still playing in the NCAA Tournament. A good performance might convince the NWL team to keep a guy around even after the D-I guys come back.

Please pardon my ignorance . . . is it common for D-III players to be placed with a NWL team and then be cut part-way through the season when the D-I players become available?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on June 03, 2015, 04:08:53 PM
Yes. Players do come and go from NWL teams. Some players get signed to 10-day "contracts" because they are just holding the spot of another player or they are filling in for an injured player. Teams often have a list of nearby local players they can tap if they need to. But many times a player can earn their way into a regular roster spot through that same avenue.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bulk19 on June 03, 2015, 09:53:44 PM
Just Bill is correct -
For example, the La Crosse Loggers had 16 players in uniform for their opening day practice on Monday, May 25, and those 16 dressed for their first game the next night - 10 of them were under 10-day contracts...
This week, as of Monday, the team was waiting for 16 more guys to report, basically from D1 teams from the West Coast, as they finish out playoffs... Then, the roster will be juggled to accommodate those players...
Tonight, the Loggers were to be playing the 9th game of a 72-game season...
* Stats are gleaned from the La Crosse Tribune stories covering the team...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 16, 2015, 04:27:17 PM
Might want to keep an eye on ShineTime....

Wash U names Pat Bloom as its new Head Baseball coach.... 

http://bearsports.wustl.edu/sports/bsb/2014-15/releases/20150616a9bl7n

So now the question is, what direction does Point go for Bloom's replacement?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on June 16, 2015, 04:41:17 PM
Quote from: cubs on June 16, 2015, 04:27:17 PM
Might want to keep an eye on ShineTime....

Wash U names Pat Bloom as its new Head Baseball coach.... 

http://bearsports.wustl.edu/sports/bsb/2014-15/releases/20150616a9bl7n

So now the question is, what direction does Point go for Bloom's replacement?

Maybe he'll go follow Wash U from now on.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ScreamingEagles on June 16, 2015, 04:54:34 PM
Quote from: cubs on June 16, 2015, 04:27:17 PM
Might want to keep an eye on ShineTime....

Wash U names Pat Bloom as its new Head Baseball coach.... 

http://bearsports.wustl.edu/sports/bsb/2014-15/releases/20150616a9bl7n

So now the question is, what direction does Point go for Bloom's replacement?

Wash U's Athletic Director is Josh Whitman, formerly of UWL.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 17, 2015, 08:50:47 AM
I'm being serious I heard Lechnir is in the running and that would be awesome.  I'm guessing they hire Jeremy Jirschele which would be a great hire in my opinion.  As great as Bloom was as a coach I still think Point will be okay but he certainly got out at that right time.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 17, 2015, 09:40:41 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on June 17, 2015, 08:50:47 AM
I'm being serious I heard Lechnir is in the running and that would be awesome.  I'm guessing they hire Jeremy Jirschele which would be a great hire in my opinion.  As great as Bloom was as a coach I still think Point will be okay but he certainly got out at that right time.
I don't believe Jirschele has his Master's, and if that is indeed true, I'm guessing that eliminates him from consideration.

As far as Lechnir goes, with his kids starting high school next year, I'm guessing you won't see him taking any college job in the next four years.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 17, 2015, 09:46:44 AM
And the fact he's in charge of a multi million dollar sports complex.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on June 17, 2015, 10:42:54 AM
Lechnir would make sense at Point as he is a local guy. Born and raised in nearby Mosinee which is 20 minutes away. It would certainly be a big splash for a hire.

Going to be an interesting scene to watch unfold as Point closes in on a new coach. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 17, 2015, 12:18:11 PM
Lechnir is building a 500000 house in the valley so I'd say point is a no go wouldn't get paid crap.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 17, 2015, 11:22:31 PM
I'm sure the state of wisconsin state employees played a big role in bloom leaving.  His pay was embarrassing to begin with with the success he's had and he hasn't received a true raise since 2008.  I know money doesn't always mean everything but let's face it wisconsin has hit rock bottom.  It's a very unfortunate situation but to retain a coach with that resume I'd guess u have to pay 75000 to 100 a year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hoops2 on June 19, 2015, 08:35:05 AM
Any chance Point drops baseball?  With all the financial trouble schools are facing including UWSP this may be the time they lop off a program to save money and baseball would certainly qualify. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 19, 2015, 11:43:08 AM
Don't see baseball being cut given the success the program has had but I guess one can never say never given how in debt this country is.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bulk19 on June 19, 2015, 03:12:51 PM
UWSP cut baseball? My guess is no...
But anyway, a week ago Thursday I drove by the alumni center at UWL (built in 1995, so still fairly new) which is situated between a new parking ramp being added on to and a new student union being built as we speak. Of course, it rained all day that day, and, of course, the sprinkler system was running full blast outside of the almuni building...
Of course, that's at UWL, but I chuckle when I think of all the budget "woes" the UW System has as money is literally running down the drain...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 20, 2015, 10:45:18 AM
Point isn't going to drop baseball.  It's a state job so they'll have to go through the posting, etc. etc. process but I would expect that they will have a new coach in place within a month at the most.  I wonder if Lechnir might not have burned a few bridges after the Oshkosh fiasco.  I'm not saying he isn't in the right or that I wouldn't be doing the same thing but suing your employer tends to make any future employers a tad leery. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 20, 2015, 12:10:06 PM
I get Coach Lechnir's name being throw out there by many for the Point job (similar to how Jon Gruden gets brought up with NFL openings) but I am going to take a guess and say that Coach Lechnir doesn't even go through the application process...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 21, 2015, 12:05:36 AM
Did u guys see Jordan Zimmerman get max scherzer with chocolate syrup after the no hitter that was awesome.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 21, 2015, 12:36:25 PM
Yes, I saw that.  Zimmerman is having a pretty decent MLB career.  Scherzer has been in the zone. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ScreamingEagles on June 22, 2015, 02:20:00 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on June 21, 2015, 12:36:25 PM
Yes, I saw that.  Zimmerman is having a pretty decent MLB career.  Scherzer has been in the zone.

I would say better than pretty decent.  2x All Star (2013/2014), threw a No-Hitter in 2013, and also led the league in wins that year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 29, 2015, 10:42:57 PM
Is bloom really only coaching at his new job and not teaching?  If so and he's making more cash pretty easy decision.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on July 01, 2015, 11:27:16 AM
Quote from: cubs on June 17, 2015, 09:40:41 AM
I don't believe Jirschele has his Master's, and if that is indeed true, I'm guessing that eliminates him from consideration.
Looks like I was wrong.... unless a Master's Degree wasn't a requirement for the position.

Jirschele named new UWSP Head Baseball Coach

http://athletics.uwsp.edu/news/2015/6/30/BSB_0630154313.aspx
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on July 01, 2015, 10:56:35 PM
I can't think of any better situation very good hire for point I don't see a drop off coming at all although point is losing a ton for next year. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on July 02, 2015, 10:23:59 AM
Aside from coaching will Jirschele work at the university?  The press release doesn't mention any other duties there.  Last year Bloom's coaching salary was just over $21,000. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on July 02, 2015, 03:31:51 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on July 02, 2015, 10:23:59 AM
Aside from coaching will Jirschele work at the university?  The press release doesn't mention any other duties there.  Last year Bloom's coaching salary was just over $21,000.

Are you serous with $21k?!?!  I understand it's small school athletics but that is absurd.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on July 02, 2015, 04:07:46 PM
Don't be surprised. A large number of D-III baseball coaches aren't even full time.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on July 02, 2015, 04:11:46 PM
He was a state employee so his salary from the university is public information and available online.  He also was paid a similar amount for other responsibilities (lecturer) that he was responsible for so his total salary from the university was in the neighborhood of $41.6K.  He may have had other income that wasn't from the university and therefore not public information and unavailable.  But $21.3K is what he was paid as a coach.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on July 02, 2015, 11:12:59 PM
Bloom made a crap load of money doing private lessons for cash.  I know several people who have gone to him over past ten years.  He shouldn't have to do that though to make 41 per year.  What was up with point not charging for admission this year found that rather odd especially when u can get 7 or 8 a ticket.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on July 08, 2015, 08:45:59 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 05, 2015, 05:18:34 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 05, 2015, 02:38:41 PM
BTW-Since you are on the boards right now, can you fill us in on what happened to former columnist Ricky Nelson (OshDude?) 

I really enjoyed reading the articles he put together in your Around the Nation section and have really missed it this year.
Me too. Ricky put a lot of time and effort into ATN and really elevated the site with his contributions. He has been difficult to replace, which is why we haven't done so. There are probably only a few people in the entire country who could do what he did for us.
Well I was finally able to find out where Nelson took his talents....  He is now the assistant SID at UW Oshkosh.

http://www.uwoshkoshtitans.com/insideathletics/directory/bios/NelsonRicky
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on July 08, 2015, 09:45:12 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on February 24, 2015, 08:01:28 AM
I think Lechnir is due for a big settlement form the school in court.
Not saying he will get a "big settlement" but Lechnir will finally get "his day in court" against former Chancellor Wells, AD Sims, and others...

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/statecolleges/tom-lechnirs-lawsuit-against-uw-oshkosh-moving-to-federal-court-b99533403z1-312309471.html

A quote that I found interesting:

"I'm working to bury them. I've been working every waking moment to bury Wells, Roter, Sonnleitner and Sims. They're not truthful people and it's going to come out."

Things could get interesting at the end of the month for some UWO officials!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on July 09, 2015, 11:16:12 AM
Quote from: cubs on July 08, 2015, 09:45:12 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on February 24, 2015, 08:01:28 AM
I think Lechnir is due for a big settlement form the school in court.
Not saying he will get a "big settlement" but Lechnir will finally get "his day in court" against former Chancellor Wells, AD Sims, and others...

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/statecolleges/tom-lechnirs-lawsuit-against-uw-oshkosh-moving-to-federal-court-b99533403z1-312309471.html

A quote that I found interesting:

"I'm working to bury them. I've been working every waking moment to bury Wells, Roter, Sonnleitner and Sims. They're not truthful people and it's going to come out."

Things could get interesting at the end of the month for some UWO officials!!!

He's mellowing with age.  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on July 09, 2015, 11:46:25 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on July 09, 2015, 11:16:12 AM
Quote from: cubs on July 08, 2015, 09:45:12 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on February 24, 2015, 08:01:28 AM
I think Lechnir is due for a big settlement form the school in court.
Not saying he will get a "big settlement" but Lechnir will finally get "his day in court" against former Chancellor Wells, AD Sims, and others...

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/statecolleges/tom-lechnirs-lawsuit-against-uw-oshkosh-moving-to-federal-court-b99533403z1-312309471.html

A quote that I found interesting:

"I'm working to bury them. I've been working every waking moment to bury Wells, Roter, Sonnleitner and Sims. They're not truthful people and it's going to come out."

Things could get interesting at the end of the month for some UWO officials!!!

He's mellowing with age.  ;)  ;D
When he does start to "mellow" that's when everyone will know he doesn't care anymore!!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on July 09, 2015, 12:30:56 PM
THIS is going to be very interesting to follow as it plays out. I am not certain how things work but what are the chances Lechnir (if he wins) is awarded his job at UW-O back?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on July 09, 2015, 12:45:02 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on July 09, 2015, 12:30:56 PM
THIS is going to be very interesting to follow as it plays out. I am not certain how things work but what are the chances Lechnir (if he wins) is awarded his job at UW-O back?
I'm not sure he even wants it now...  His kids are both going to be freshman in high school, so I am guessing he will want to watch them play.

That's the thing about this whole situation...  I think he might have actually retired on his own as recently as last year if they would have let him go out on his own terms.  Instead, the university now has to deal with a federal court case.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on July 09, 2015, 05:51:45 PM
I don't know him at all but I get the impression that he would be just stubborn enough to go back to UW-Oshkosh just to piss off Sims if for no other reason. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on July 10, 2015, 12:29:37 AM
He's not paying for his new home on a Oshkosh baseball coaching salary.  He is making probably triple now as what he made as a coach.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on July 17, 2015, 10:44:23 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on July 10, 2015, 12:29:37 AM
He's not paying for his new home on a Oshkosh baseball coaching salary.  He is making probably triple now as what he made as a coach.

I heard he is moving to Kimberly so his sons can attend the University there, aka Kimberly High School.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on July 20, 2015, 10:21:13 AM
Scooter McGinnis has done a great job building an athletic powerhouse at Kimberly! And more than one of Lechnir's former players is on staff at Kimberly High School.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on July 20, 2015, 11:12:00 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on July 20, 2015, 10:21:13 AM
Scooter McGinnis has done a great job building an athletic powerhouse at Kimberly! And more than one of Lechnir's former players is on staff at Kimberly High School.
Ryan Hinske and ???
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on July 20, 2015, 10:47:37 PM
So how is jirschele doing in his first summer of recruiting as head coach.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on August 13, 2015, 09:36:27 AM
Last night Jordan Zimmerman took the mound against Clayton Kershaw and the DODGERS.  The DODGERS won 3-0 behind Kershaw's 8 inning, 3 hit, 8 K effort.  But Zimmerman pitched very well allowing only 1 run (earned) on just 2 hits, walking one and striking out 9 batters in 7 innings.  It was a tough loss for the former Pointer who's season record dropped to 8-8.  Obviously you can't win when your guys get shutout.

The WARHAWKS recently returned from a European tour which saw them go 4-0 with wins against the Swiss national team (20-9), Austria's Attnang-Puchhiem (20-0), the Slovakian national team (13-3) and Italy's Parma Juniors (12-0). 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on September 29, 2015, 03:20:13 PM
WARHAWKS head coach John Vodenich has announced the hiring of Tom Klawitter who will serve as the team's pitching coach.  Klawitter was drafted by the DODGERS and pitched a portion of the 1985 season for the Minnesota Twins.  Most recently he retired from a teaching position at Janesville Parker.  In addition to functioning as an assistant baseball coach at Parker, and earlier Craig High School, he was a very successful girls basketball coach leading the Vikings to 16 conference championships, 12 state tournament appearances, 3 state championships finishing with a 564-128 won/loss record.   

His son, Ross, was the shortstop on the 2005 National Championship team. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on September 29, 2015, 09:28:39 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on September 29, 2015, 03:20:13 PM
WARHAWKS head coach John Vodenich has announced the hiring of Tom Klawitter who will serve as the team's pitching coach. Klawitter was drafted by the DODGERS and pitched a portion of the 1985 season for the Minnesota Twins.  Most recently he retired from a teaching position at Janesville Parker.  In addition to functioning as an assistant baseball coach at Parker, and earlier Craig High School, he was a very successful girls basketball coach leading the Vikings to 16 conference championships, 12 state tournament appearances, 3 state championships finishing with a 564-128 won/loss record.   

His son, Ross, was the shortstop on the 2005 National Championship team.
Can still remember facing Klawitter numerous times in the WIsconsin State League when he pitched for the Janesville Aces....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Voice of the Titans on October 20, 2015, 04:24:23 PM
Long for the days of a Klawitter/Gene Mand matchup.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on December 04, 2015, 06:25:03 PM
First huge recruiting victory for Coach Jirschele...Turner Doornink of Clintonville and a 2014 First Team All Stater, will be transferring from St Cloud Tech and attending UWSP to play baseball.  He will be a sophomore this year.  I assume he'll play 1B or 3B and hit in the middle of the order that was vacated by McHugh.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on December 05, 2015, 11:52:27 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on December 04, 2015, 06:25:03 PM
First huge recruiting victory for Coach Jirschele...Turner Doornink of Clintonville and a 2014 First Team All Stater, will be transferring from St Cloud Tech and attending UWSP to play baseball.  He will be a sophomore this year.  I assume he'll play 1B or 3B and hit in the middle of the order that was vacated by McHugh.
Not sure I would go that far....  It was probably the easiest time he will have convincing a recruit to go to Stevens Point with both the Jirschele and Doornink families both being from Clintonville. 

It would have been more of a surprise had Doornink ended up at a different school in my opinion...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on December 05, 2015, 12:21:54 PM
Quote from: cubs on December 05, 2015, 11:52:27 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on December 04, 2015, 06:25:03 PM
First huge recruiting victory for Coach Jirschele...Turner Doornink of Clintonville and a 2014 First Team All Stater, will be transferring from St Cloud Tech and attending UWSP to play baseball.  He will be a sophomore this year.  I assume he'll play 1B or 3B and hit in the middle of the order that was vacated by McHugh.
Not sure I would go that far....  It was probably the easiest time he will have convincing a recruit to go to Stevens Point with both the Jirschele and Doornink families both being from Clintonville. 

It would have been more of a surprise had Doornink ended up at a different school in my opinion...

I said huge recruiting victory based on Turner's talent alone, not on how hard Jirchele had to work to get him on campus.  With that said, it was more difficult than you think it was.  I know Turner personally, I know his family....at no point was this a sure thing until he made his decision while on Point's campus this week.  Yes, the previous relationship Turner had with the Jirchele's was a huge plus for Point, it still took a lot for Turner to make the decision to leave St Cloud Tech earlier than his plan of 2 years.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on December 06, 2015, 03:44:44 PM
Quote from: cubs on December 05, 2015, 11:52:27 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on December 04, 2015, 06:25:03 PM
First huge recruiting victory for Coach Jirschele...Turner Doornink of Clintonville and a 2014 First Team All Stater, will be transferring from St Cloud Tech and attending UWSP to play baseball.  He will be a sophomore this year.  I assume he'll play 1B or 3B and hit in the middle of the order that was vacated by McHugh.
Not sure I would go that far....  It was probably the easiest time he will have convincing a recruit to go to Stevens Point with both the Jirschele and Doornink families both being from Clintonville. 

It would have been more of a surprise had Doornink ended up at a different school in my opinion...

Jirschele had to throw in a deluxe ice fishing shanty on Lake DuBay in order to get him back from St Cloud.  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on December 07, 2015, 09:47:44 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on December 05, 2015, 12:21:54 PM
Quote from: cubs on December 05, 2015, 11:52:27 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on December 04, 2015, 06:25:03 PM
First huge recruiting victory for Coach Jirschele...Turner Doornink of Clintonville and a 2014 First Team All Stater, will be transferring from St Cloud Tech and attending UWSP to play baseball.  He will be a sophomore this year.  I assume he'll play 1B or 3B and hit in the middle of the order that was vacated by McHugh.
Not sure I would go that far....  It was probably the easiest time he will have convincing a recruit to go to Stevens Point with both the Jirschele and Doornink families both being from Clintonville. 

It would have been more of a surprise had Doornink ended up at a different school in my opinion...

I said huge recruiting victory based on Turner's talent alone, not on how hard Jirchele had to work to get him on campus.  With that said, it was more difficult than you think it was.  I know Turner personally, I know his family....at no point was this a sure thing until he made his decision while on Point's campus this week.  Yes, the previous relationship Turner had with the Jirchele's was a huge plus for Point, it still took a lot for Turner to make the decision to leave St Cloud Tech earlier than his plan of 2 years.
If you say so....  There were "rumblings" that this was going to happen already at the end of the summer before Doornink went back to St. Cloud for the Fall semester... 

As I mentioned earlier, this is not a surprise whatsoever....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on December 12, 2015, 11:09:21 PM
That's awesome but whose going to pitch?  They obviously lost Mitch beau and greatly need about 4 to 5 guys that are solid.  Hopefully some of the experienced bench players like guckenberg and Kranz have great years.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on December 15, 2015, 09:42:26 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on December 12, 2015, 11:09:21 PM
That's awesome but whose going to pitch?
Not sure, but I was able to come across the names of some of their recruits for this season....

Angel Ramirez-Greendale https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/profiles/WI/angel-ramirez-jr-3864051972
Reece Frederick-Hortonville https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/profiles/WI/Reece-Frederick-9348571026-5063298147
Sam Sabinash-Greendale https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/profiles/WI/Sam--Sabinash-2793451806 (1st Team All State IF-Summer)
Alex Stodola-Coleman https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/profiles/WI/Alexander-Stodola-6417305829 (3rd Team All State Catcher)
Ryan Stanicek-Boylan Catholic (IL) https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/profiles/IL/Ryan-Stanicek-1492567830-9546712380
Kyle Mrozinski-Ashwaubenon
Tristan Brewer-Grantsburg
Weston Nelson-Sheboygan North https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/profiles/WI/Weston-Nelson-9645278130-0748269315
Ben Servais-St. Francis (MN)

There are more, but I'm short on time right now....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on December 15, 2015, 11:37:35 AM
Quote from: cubs on December 15, 2015, 09:42:26 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on December 12, 2015, 11:09:21 PM
That's awesome but whose going to pitch?
Not sure, but I was able to come across the names of some of their recruits for this season....

Angel Ramirez-Greendale https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/profiles/WI/angel-ramirez-jr-3864051972
Reece Frederick-Hortonville https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/profiles/WI/Reece-Frederick-9348571026-5063298147
Sam Sabinash-Greendale https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/profiles/WI/Sam--Sabinash-2793451806 (1st Team All State IF-Summer)
Alex Stodola-Coleman https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/profiles/WI/Alexander-Stodola-6417305829 (3rd Team All State Catcher)
Ryan Stanicek-Boylan Catholic (IL) https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/profiles/IL/Ryan-Stanicek-1492567830-9546712380
Kyle Mrozinski-Ashwaubenon
Tristan Brewer-Grantsburg
Weston Nelson-Sheboygan North https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/profiles/WI/Weston-Nelson-9645278130-0748269315
Ben Servais-St. Francis (MN)

There are more, but I'm short on time right now....

I was able to find those names as well Cubs...I've stumbled across a couple more

Jordan Carlson from Madison La Follette
Zach Miller RHP Greendale
http://www.wisconsinbaseballreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=90:greendale-high-has-two-rising-stars&catid=18&Itemid=198 (http://www.wisconsinbaseballreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=90:greendale-high-has-two-rising-stars&catid=18&Itemid=198)

Cubs, if you don't mind...what other names have you got for UWSP's recruiting class??
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on December 15, 2015, 01:26:14 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on December 12, 2015, 11:09:21 PM
That's awesome but whose going to pitch?  They obviously lost Mitch beau and greatly need about 4 to 5 guys that are solid.  Hopefully some of the experienced bench players like guckenberg and Kranz have great years.

Luke Watson
Cole Erickson
Kody McHugh
Ben Miller
Heinrich Walder
Ryan Williams
Ben Faga
Mark Kowalke
Alex Thompson

If the young guys made good strides from the offseason, this pitching staff should be very good.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on December 16, 2015, 02:12:12 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on December 15, 2015, 11:37:35 AM
Cubs, if you don't mind...what other names have you got for UWSP's recruiting class??
Miller and Carlson were the other two....

If the freshman Miller is as advertised, it wouldn't surprise me to see him challenge McHugh/Erickson for a weekend starter spot behind Watson and Kowalke.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on December 16, 2015, 03:43:46 PM
Quote from: cubs on December 16, 2015, 02:12:12 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on December 15, 2015, 11:37:35 AM
Cubs, if you don't mind...what other names have you got for UWSP's recruiting class??
Miller and Carlson were the other two....

If the freshman Miller is as advertised, it wouldn't surprise me to see him challenge McHugh/Erickson for a weekend starter spot behind Watson and Kowalke.

I definitely like what I've read on Miller...if any freshman pitcher breaks through into the starting rotation, he seems to have the best shot.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on December 21, 2015, 07:48:54 PM
This is great news is hanke back or what happened.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on December 21, 2015, 08:51:13 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on December 21, 2015, 07:48:54 PM
This is great news is hanke back or what happened.

Hanke is still in school...I assume he's able to play again this year...haven't heard confirmation though.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BDB on December 25, 2015, 02:06:36 PM
http://chippewa.com/dunnconnect/news/local/baseball-brings-vavra-family-to-sunny-australia-for-the-holidays/article_e851a0a3-130e-54e9-92a5-0a00920b55f7.html

Former Stout player and coach, and current coach with the Twins and his baseball playing family.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on January 07, 2016, 01:45:08 PM
This is very exciting!

http://uwwsports.com/news/2016/1/6/BSB_0106162159.aspx (http://uwwsports.com/news/2016/1/6/BSB_0106162159.aspx)

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on January 07, 2016, 03:46:49 PM
Congratulations to the young man.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on January 13, 2016, 11:04:37 AM
Well, I guess I'm surprised, but then not surprised. http://d3baseball.com/awards/all-americans/d3baseball-preseason-allamericans-2016 (http://d3baseball.com/awards/all-americans/d3baseball-preseason-allamericans-2016)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on January 13, 2016, 11:15:44 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on January 13, 2016, 11:04:37 AM
Well, I guess I'm surprised, but then not surprised. http://d3baseball.com/awards/all-americans/d3baseball-preseason-allamericans-2016 (http://d3baseball.com/awards/all-americans/d3baseball-preseason-allamericans-2016)
What is there to be surprised about?

Kohlwey was a 2nd Team All American last season, while Anderson was an Honorable Mention All American....  Would make sense that since both return they would likely be preseason All Americans this year....  No?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on January 14, 2016, 11:53:09 AM
Quote from: cubs on January 13, 2016, 11:15:44 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on January 13, 2016, 11:04:37 AM
Well, I guess I'm surprised, but then not surprised. http://d3baseball.com/awards/all-americans/d3baseball-preseason-allamericans-2016 (http://d3baseball.com/awards/all-americans/d3baseball-preseason-allamericans-2016)
What is there to be surprised about?

Kohlwey was a 2nd Team All American last season, while Anderson was an Honorable Mention All American....  Would make sense that since both return they would likely be preseason All Americans this year....  No?

That makes complete sense. My surprise was more about others from the WIAC who were nominees at some level last year. But everyone can't be a pre-season All-American.


Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on January 14, 2016, 01:20:06 PM
It is much better to be a post season All-American because that means you actually excelled during the current season not previous ones.  I always like to compare the two lists to see who stayed on it and who didn't.  It goes both ways. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on February 01, 2016, 04:35:49 PM
And the preview is posted. http://d3baseball.com/notables/2016/01/preview/midwest-preview (http://d3baseball.com/notables/2016/01/preview/midwest-preview)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on February 18, 2016, 12:08:46 PM
The WARHAWKS have posted their season's schedule...

http://www.uwwsports.com/schedule.aspx?path=baseball

The schedule includes games against Anderson, Framington State, Rutgers-Camden, St Olaf, St Scholastica, Eastern Connecticut, St Thomas and Casleton on the Florida trip and out of conference games against Ripon, St Norbert, Concordia-Chicago, Milwauke School of Engineering, Carthage and Concordia-Wisconsin up north.  Additionally the WARHAWKS will host a conference pair of double hitters against Stevens Point, Oshkosh and Stout while traveling to Platteville and Lacrosse. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 28, 2016, 02:29:18 AM
UWO drops their 2016 opener against North Park today, 4-1 in 13 innings....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 28, 2016, 11:01:30 PM
Quote from: cubs on February 28, 2016, 02:29:18 AM
UWO drops their 2016 opener against North Park today, 4-1 in 13 innings....
And follows it up with another 4-1 loss today, this time to Concordia-Chicago....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on February 29, 2016, 05:36:22 PM
And UWO loses 12-2 to Buena Vista in 8 innings.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 29, 2016, 10:14:40 PM
UWO closes out trip to Illinois with a fourth straight loss, this time 4-3 in 13 Innings against Webster University....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 01, 2016, 08:27:52 AM
Quote from: cubs on February 29, 2016, 10:14:40 PM
UWO closes out trip to Illinois with a fourth straight loss, this time 4-3 in 13 Innings against Webster University....

Oh, how the mighty have fallen. (I know it's early, but there were entire seasons when Oshkosh would lose only 4 games... not 4 in a week).

I wonder how Lechnir feels as he watches the empire he built (OK, Tiedemann built it... but Lechnir continued it) crumble to the ground. Sad to see it crumble or willing to add to the fire?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 02, 2016, 11:44:37 PM
Wiac predictions
1.  Lacrosse
2.  Whitewater
3.  Oshkosh
4.  Point
5.  Superior
6.  Platteville
7.  Stout

The top is difficult to predict but I think the Eagles staff is slightly deeper than the Hawks.  Point lost virtually everything from last year but pitching could be solid.  No idea how the bats will be other than Greco and hanke.  Obvious holes in the middle and no bloom so we'll see how the new staff fairs.  Yes Oshkosh is 0 and 4 but I still like their roster.  Messenger is an absolute stud on the mound. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 03, 2016, 08:27:16 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 02, 2016, 11:44:37 PM
Wiac predictions
1.  Lacrosse
2.  Whitewater
3.  Oshkosh
4.  Point
5.  Superior
6.  Platteville
7.  Stout

The top is difficult to predict but I think the Eagles staff is slightly deeper than the Hawks.  Point lost virtually everything from last year but pitching could be solid.  No idea how the bats will be other than Greco and hanke.  Obvious holes in the middle and no bloom so we'll see how the new staff fairs.  Yes Oshkosh is 0 and 4 but I still like their roster.  Messenger is an absolute stud on the mound.

I know I over-reacted to Oshkosh's start, but growing up in the Fox Valley, this would have been unheard of in my own childhood.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 03, 2016, 08:48:54 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 02, 2016, 11:44:37 PM
Wiac predictions
1.  Lacrosse
2.  Whitewater
3.  Oshkosh
4.  Point
5.  Superior
6.  Platteville
7.  Stout

The top is difficult to predict but I think the Eagles staff is slightly deeper than the Hawks.  Point lost virtually everything from last year but pitching could be solid.  No idea how the bats will be other than Greco and hanke.  Obvious holes in the middle and no bloom so we'll see how the new staff fairs.  Yes Oshkosh is 0 and 4 but I still like their roster.  Messenger is an absolute stud on the mound.
Looks like you definition of stud is different than mine....

6.1 IP, 5 R, 5 ER, 5 H, 4 BB, 4 K

If that is the pitching line of a "stud" than I guess the WIAC is littered with pitching "studs" this season!!!

And you can save the first start of the season argument....  His 4-5 record, 3.91 ERA and his .245 BAA last season weren't "stud-like" numbers either...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 03, 2016, 09:36:50 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 02, 2016, 11:44:37 PM
Wiac predictions
1.  Lacrosse
2.  Whitewater
3.  Oshkosh
4.  Point
5.  Superior
6.  Platteville
7.  Stout

The top is difficult to predict but I think the Eagles staff is slightly deeper than the Hawks.  Point lost virtually everything from last year but pitching could be solid.  No idea how the bats will be other than Greco and hanke.  Obvious holes in the middle and no bloom so we'll see how the new staff fairs.  Yes Oshkosh is 0 and 4 but I still like their roster.  Messenger is an absolute stud on the mound.

You've never been close on any of your predictions...that bodes well for Point.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on March 03, 2016, 10:41:33 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 02, 2016, 11:44:37 PM
Wiac predictions
1.  Lacrosse
2.  Whitewater
3.  Oshkosh
4.  Point
5.  Superior
6.  Platteville
7.  Stout

The top is difficult to predict but I think the Eagles staff is slightly deeper than the Hawks.  Point lost virtually everything from last year but pitching could be solid.  No idea how the bats will be other than Greco and hanke.  Obvious holes in the middle and no bloom so we'll see how the new staff fairs.  Yes Oshkosh is 0 and 4 but I still like their roster.  Messenger is an absolute stud on the mound.

I think the top four (in any order) all have something to prove, and you certainly have to respect LaCrosse's performance last year. IMHO it will come down to preparation, work ethic, preparation, desire, preparation, TEAMwork, and preparation.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 03, 2016, 11:18:14 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 02, 2016, 11:44:37 PM
Wiac predictions
1.  Lacrosse
2.  Whitewater
3.  Oshkosh
4.  Point
5.  Superior
6.  Platteville
7.  Stout
You sure seem to have a pretty good pulse on the 2015-16 WIAC baseball season already!!!!  Picking up right where you left off last year!!!!

Last time I checked, Superior isn't even in the WIAC anymore!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 03, 2016, 11:58:50 AM
Quote from: cubs on March 03, 2016, 11:18:14 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 02, 2016, 11:44:37 PM
Wiac predictions
1.  Lacrosse
2.  Whitewater
3.  Oshkosh
4.  Point
5.  Superior
6.  Platteville
7.  Stout
You sure seem to have a pretty good pulse on the 2015-16 WIAC baseball season already!!!!  Picking up right where you left off last year!!!!

Last time I checked, Superior isn't even in the WIAC anymore!!
Too funny.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 04, 2016, 08:38:53 AM
AR, where are you picking River Falls and Eau Claire to finish? 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 04, 2016, 09:49:06 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 04, 2016, 08:38:53 AM
AR, where are you picking River Falls and Eau Claire to finish?
Wrong poster BW!!!!  :-[
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 04, 2016, 01:41:33 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 04, 2016, 09:49:06 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 04, 2016, 08:38:53 AM
AR, where are you picking River Falls and Eau Claire to finish?
Wrong poster BW!!!!  :-[

Oops, two peas in the same pod I guess.  My bad.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 04, 2016, 02:47:12 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 04, 2016, 01:41:33 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 04, 2016, 09:49:06 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 04, 2016, 08:38:53 AM
AR, where are you picking River Falls and Eau Claire to finish?
Wrong poster BW!!!!  :-[
Oops, two peas in the same pod I guess.  My bad.
That's ok!!!!  It definitely made me chuckle!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 09, 2016, 03:01:15 PM
It is with great sadness that I share the news of former WARHAWKS baseball coach Jim Miller's passing.  Mills is credited with turning the program around and building the strong foundation on which the current program stands.  He was a friend to many including me and I'm really going to miss watching the WARHAWKS and my conversations with him.  Rest in peace my friend. 

http://www.uwwsports.com/news/2016/3/9/baseball-in-memory-of-coach-jim-miller.aspx?path=gen
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on March 10, 2016, 11:58:44 AM
WIAC predictions are made.

http://www.wiacsports.com/news/2016/3/10/BB_0310163518.aspx (http://www.wiacsports.com/news/2016/3/10/BB_0310163518.aspx)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 10, 2016, 09:11:58 PM
They reviewed my prediction on here it seems.  Point lost everything from last year essentially and have a new coach.  Taking 4th in the wiac this year isn't a bad year.  This is far and away the best conference top to bottom.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 11, 2016, 12:14:22 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 10, 2016, 09:11:58 PM
They reviewed my prediction on here it seems.  Point lost everything from last year essentially and have a new coach.  Taking 4th in the wiac this year isn't a bad year.  This is far and away the best conference top to bottom.

No one would ever review your predictions before making their own...unless its to see how the standings won't finish at the end of the season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on March 11, 2016, 04:57:11 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 09, 2016, 03:01:15 PM
It is with great sadness that I share the news of former WARHAWKS baseball coach Jim Miller's passing.  Mills is credited with turning the program around and building the strong foundation on which the current program stands.  He was a friend to many including me and I'm really going to miss watching the WARHAWKS and my conversations with him.  Rest in peace my friend. 

http://www.uwwsports.com/news/2016/3/9/baseball-in-memory-of-coach-jim-miller.aspx?path=gen

Mills was a great guy. I don't know anyone who knows him and didn't like him.  Without reservation, I can say Whitewater is better because we've had him. Very tough loss. I'll miss him.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on March 13, 2016, 03:50:36 PM
La Crosse goes down 16-4 to Rutgers Camden. Cortland next.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on March 13, 2016, 05:16:37 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on March 13, 2016, 03:50:36 PM
La Crosse goes down 16-4 to Rutgers Camden. Cortland next.

Based on above reactions, better cancel the program.   :D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on March 14, 2016, 07:19:26 AM
Quote from: AppletonRocks on March 13, 2016, 05:16:37 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on March 13, 2016, 03:50:36 PM
La Crosse goes down 16-4 to Rutgers Camden. Cortland next.

Based on above reactions, better cancel the program.   :D

Not reactions at all, just observations. They did lose 16-4 to Rutgers-Camden, and they were about to play Cortland next. I wasn't implying anything.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 14, 2016, 10:35:12 AM
UWL drops a 4-3 10-inning decision to perennial power SUNY-Cortland in the nightcap.....

Boushley threw well for UWL, but was unable to hang onto the 3-1 lead he was given.  It will be interesting to see just how much UWL misses closer Jameson Sadowske this season.  Last year, he was practically lights out when handed the lead, and was a HUGE piece of their National Runner-Up finish.

As far as the loss to Rutgers Camden, UWL's biggest weakness this season in my opinion is their pitching depth.  Guys like Cejka, Miller, and Sadowske are gone, so they are going to have to rely on some "untested" arms.  Wouldn't surprise me if they give up quite a few runs over the course of the non-conference season as they try to figure out what their WIAC rotation will look like.  Boushley and Kenkel are the only guys returning that got at least five starts last season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 14, 2016, 01:01:09 PM
Quote from: cubs on December 15, 2015, 09:42:26 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on December 12, 2015, 11:09:21 PM
That's awesome but whose going to pitch?
Not sure, but I was able to come across the names of some of their recruits for this season....

Angel Ramirez-Greendale https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/profiles/WI/angel-ramirez-jr-3864051972
Reece Frederick-Hortonville https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/profiles/WI/Reece-Frederick-9348571026-5063298147
Sam Sabinash-Greendale https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/profiles/WI/Sam--Sabinash-2793451806 (1st Team All State IF-Summer)
Alex Stodola-Coleman https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/profiles/WI/Alexander-Stodola-6417305829 (3rd Team All State Catcher)
Ryan Stanicek-Boylan Catholic (IL) https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/profiles/IL/Ryan-Stanicek-1492567830-9546712380
Kyle Mrozinski-Ashwaubenon
Tristan Brewer-Grantsburg
Weston Nelson-Sheboygan North https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/profiles/WI/Weston-Nelson-9645278130-0748269315
Ben Servais-St. Francis (MN)

There are more, but I'm short on time right now....
Neither of the Greendale kids (Sabinash and Ramirez) listed on Point's 2016 roster...

http://athletics.uwsp.edu/roster.aspx?path=baseball&
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 14, 2016, 01:02:38 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on December 15, 2015, 11:37:35 AM
Quote from: cubs on December 15, 2015, 09:42:26 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on December 12, 2015, 11:09:21 PM
That's awesome but whose going to pitch?
Not sure, but I was able to come across the names of some of their recruits for this season....

Angel Ramirez-Greendale https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/profiles/WI/angel-ramirez-jr-3864051972
Reece Frederick-Hortonville https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/profiles/WI/Reece-Frederick-9348571026-5063298147
Sam Sabinash-Greendale https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/profiles/WI/Sam--Sabinash-2793451806 (1st Team All State IF-Summer)
Alex Stodola-Coleman https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/profiles/WI/Alexander-Stodola-6417305829 (3rd Team All State Catcher)
Ryan Stanicek-Boylan Catholic (IL) https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/profiles/IL/Ryan-Stanicek-1492567830-9546712380
Kyle Mrozinski-Ashwaubenon
Tristan Brewer-Grantsburg
Weston Nelson-Sheboygan North https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/profiles/WI/Weston-Nelson-9645278130-0748269315
Ben Servais-St. Francis (MN)

There are more, but I'm short on time right now....

I was able to find those names as well Cubs...I've stumbled across a couple more

Jordan Carlson from Madison La Follette
Zach Miller RHP Greendale
http://www.wisconsinbaseballreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=90:greendale-high-has-two-rising-stars&catid=18&Itemid=198 (http://www.wisconsinbaseballreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=90:greendale-high-has-two-rising-stars&catid=18&Itemid=198)

Cubs, if you don't mind...what other names have you got for UWSP's recruiting class??
No Carlson or Miller on the roster either.... 

Would be interesting to hear if they ended up enrolling at another school, or just chose not to play baseball this year....  Miller was the kid that I was interested in seeing throw in the WIAC.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 14, 2016, 01:08:41 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on December 15, 2015, 01:26:14 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on December 12, 2015, 11:09:21 PM
That's awesome but whose going to pitch?  They obviously lost Mitch beau and greatly need about 4 to 5 guys that are solid.  Hopefully some of the experienced bench players like guckenberg and Kranz have great years.

Luke Watson
Cole Erickson
Kody McHugh
Ben Miller
Heinrich Walder
Ryan Williams
Ben Faga
Mark Kowalke
Alex Thompson

If the young guys made good strides from the offseason, this pitching staff should be very good.
Surprisingly no Ryan Williams on the roster either....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 14, 2016, 03:13:21 PM
2016 WARHAWKS preview and roster are up. 

http://www.uwwsports.com/news/2016/3/14/2016-baseball-season-preview.aspx?path=baseball

I think we've got a solid pitching rotation with Morgan, Bachar, Nompleggi and Hurst (missed last year).  Also Austin Jones (missed most of last year) will be available relatively early in the schedule though he may be a starting position player (outfield) from the get go.  Renz also had some starts (5) last year and should be available as needed.  Olejniczak and Finn each made at least 14 appearances in a relief role last year.  Olejniczak may work his way into the starting rotation.  The big question for the WARHAWKS this year will be with the position players with only two full time starters (Chamberlin and Bryden) returning.  Several others ( Kuczynski, Burman, Helbing, Hallenbeck and K. Jones) had starts last year.  Also Dylan Bersch returns after sitting out last year. 

It's going to be an interesting year.   Hopefully it doesn't take forever for us to figure out an every day lineup.  We'll probably take some lumps until we do but I think, if we can hit the ball decently, that we will contend. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 14, 2016, 06:42:40 PM
Also no guckenberg or Kranz for point I was thinking Kranz would be a major contributor this year. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 14, 2016, 10:18:16 PM
Ben Diedrick seems like a good get for Point.  Former 1st Team All Stater that was a scholarship football player for St Cloud State. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 14, 2016, 10:25:40 PM
Now with more checking on Point's roster...Luke Thomka is a big get as well.  He signed with St Cloud State to play baseball and now ends up at Point, not sure what happened there. 

http://www.scsuhuskies.com/news/2015/4/23/BB_0423150819.aspx (http://www.scsuhuskies.com/news/2015/4/23/BB_0423150819.aspx)

Article states that he routinely is throwing upper 80s with good movement, if he keeps progressing he will make Point fans very happy.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 14, 2016, 11:24:19 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 14, 2016, 01:02:38 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on December 15, 2015, 11:37:35 AM
Quote from: cubs on December 15, 2015, 09:42:26 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on December 12, 2015, 11:09:21 PM
That's awesome but whose going to pitch?
Not sure, but I was able to come across the names of some of their recruits for this season....

Angel Ramirez-Greendale https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/profiles/WI/angel-ramirez-jr-3864051972
Reece Frederick-Hortonville https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/profiles/WI/Reece-Frederick-9348571026-5063298147
Sam Sabinash-Greendale https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/profiles/WI/Sam--Sabinash-2793451806 (1st Team All State IF-Summer)
Alex Stodola-Coleman https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/profiles/WI/Alexander-Stodola-6417305829 (3rd Team All State Catcher)
Ryan Stanicek-Boylan Catholic (IL) https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/profiles/IL/Ryan-Stanicek-1492567830-9546712380
Kyle Mrozinski-Ashwaubenon
Tristan Brewer-Grantsburg
Weston Nelson-Sheboygan North https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/profiles/WI/Weston-Nelson-9645278130-0748269315
Ben Servais-St. Francis (MN)

There are more, but I'm short on time right now....

I was able to find those names as well Cubs...I've stumbled across a couple more

Jordan Carlson from Madison La Follette
Zach Miller RHP Greendale
http://www.wisconsinbaseballreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=90:greendale-high-has-two-rising-stars&catid=18&Itemid=198 (http://www.wisconsinbaseballreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=90:greendale-high-has-two-rising-stars&catid=18&Itemid=198)

Cubs, if you don't mind...what other names have you got for UWSP's recruiting class??
No Carlson or Miller on the roster either.... 

Would be interesting to hear if they ended up enrolling at another school, or just chose not to play baseball this year....  Miller was the kid that I was interested in seeing throw in the WIAC.....

Miller and Sabinash are gray shirting this season.  Looks like Carlson and Ramirez decided against playing.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on March 15, 2016, 07:51:27 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 14, 2016, 03:13:21 PM
2016 WARHAWKS preview and roster are up. 

http://www.uwwsports.com/news/2016/3/14/2016-baseball-season-preview.aspx?path=baseball

I think we've got a solid pitching rotation with Morgan, Bachar, Nompleggi and Hurst (missed last year).  Also Austin Jones (missed most of last year) will be available relatively early in the schedule though he may be a starting position player (outfield) from the get go.  Renz also had some starts (5) last year and should be available as needed.  Olejniczak and Finn each made at least 14 appearances in a relief role last year.  Olejniczak may work his way into the starting rotation.  The big question for the WARHAWKS this year will be with the position players with only two full time starters (Chamberlin and Bryden) returning.  Several others ( Kuczynski, Burman, Helbing, Hallenbeck and K. Jones) had starts last year.  Also Dylan Bersch returns after sitting out last year. 

It's going to be an interesting year.   Hopefully it doesn't take forever for us to figure out an every day lineup.  We'll probably take some lumps until we do but I think, if we can hit the ball decently, that we will contend.

I agree 100%. Lots of opportunity for players to step up on offense ... I'm optimistic that there's more depth to the lineup than may appear at first glance. The next two weeks could tell a lot.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 15, 2016, 09:52:57 AM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on March 15, 2016, 07:51:27 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 14, 2016, 03:13:21 PM
2016 WARHAWKS preview and roster are up. 

http://www.uwwsports.com/news/2016/3/14/2016-baseball-season-preview.aspx?path=baseball

I think we've got a solid pitching rotation with Morgan, Bachar, Nompleggi and Hurst (missed last year).  Also Austin Jones (missed most of last year) will be available relatively early in the schedule though he may be a starting position player (outfield) from the get go.  Renz also had some starts (5) last year and should be available as needed.  Olejniczak and Finn each made at least 14 appearances in a relief role last year.  Olejniczak may work his way into the starting rotation.  The big question for the WARHAWKS this year will be with the position players with only two full time starters (Chamberlin and Bryden) returning.  Several others ( Kuczynski, Burman, Helbing, Hallenbeck and K. Jones) had starts last year.  Also Dylan Bersch returns after sitting out last year. 

It's going to be an interesting year.   Hopefully it doesn't take forever for us to figure out an every day lineup.  We'll probably take some lumps until we do but I think, if we can hit the ball decently, that we will contend.

I agree 100%. Lots of opportunity for players to step up on offense ... I'm optimistic that there's more depth to the lineup than may appear at first glance. The next two weeks could tell a lot.


I hope so because the staff has a bunch of things to figure out. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on March 15, 2016, 11:08:36 AM
Quote from: cubs on March 14, 2016, 10:35:12 AM
UWL drops a 4-3 10-inning decision to perennial power SUNY-Cortland in the nightcap.....

Boushley threw well for UWL, but was unable to hang onto the 3-1 lead he was given.  It will be interesting to see just how much UWL misses closer Jameson Sadowske this season.  Last year, he was practically lights out when handed the lead, and was a HUGE piece of their National Runner-Up finish.

As far as the loss to Rutgers Camden, UWL's biggest weakness this season in my opinion is their pitching depth.  Guys like Cejka, Miller, and Sadowske are gone, so they are going to have to rely on some "untested" arms.  Wouldn't surprise me if they give up quite a few runs over the course of the non-conference season as they try to figure out what their WIAC rotation will look like.  Boushley and Kenkel are the only guys returning that got at least five starts last season.

Just curious .......is it acceptable so early in the season to allow Boushley to throw 148 pitches and go nine innings against Cortland?Assuming UWL was putting more emphasis on the game than Cortland. Know Cortland has bull's-eye on its back, but ........ We do know Cortland coach would never allow a pitcher go that far with that many pitches this early. Joe Brown uses this portion of the season to learn what he has, particularly pitching. Puts a ton of emphasis on winning his conference and earning automatic NCAA tourney berth.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 15, 2016, 11:25:59 AM
Quote from: jdex on March 15, 2016, 11:08:36 AM
Quote from: cubs on March 14, 2016, 10:35:12 AM
UWL drops a 4-3 10-inning decision to perennial power SUNY-Cortland in the nightcap.....

Boushley threw well for UWL, but was unable to hang onto the 3-1 lead he was given.  It will be interesting to see just how much UWL misses closer Jameson Sadowske this season.  Last year, he was practically lights out when handed the lead, and was a HUGE piece of their National Runner-Up finish.

As far as the loss to Rutgers Camden, UWL's biggest weakness this season in my opinion is their pitching depth.  Guys like Cejka, Miller, and Sadowske are gone, so they are going to have to rely on some "untested" arms.  Wouldn't surprise me if they give up quite a few runs over the course of the non-conference season as they try to figure out what their WIAC rotation will look like.  Boushley and Kenkel are the only guys returning that got at least five starts last season.

Just curious .......is it acceptable so early in the season to allow Boushley to throw 148 pitches and go nine innings against Cortland?Assuming UWL was putting more emphasis on the game than Cortland. Know Cortland has bull's-eye on its back, but ........ We do know Cortland coach would never allow a pitcher go that far with that many pitches this early. Joe Brown uses this portion of the season to learn what he has, particularly pitching. Puts a ton of emphasis on winning his conference and earning automatic NCAA tourney berth.
Honest question, because I really don't know the answer....

Does SUNY Cortland get much of a challenge from the conference opponents in terms of winning the conference, or are they the clear-cut favorites every year?  Only reason I ask this, is because UWL will likely see both Whitewater and Stevens Point (and maybe even UWO) challenge them for the automatic bid.  Might be a "reason" UWL put an emphasis on Cortalnd game early in the season in order to try and build a better Pool C resume.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on March 15, 2016, 12:33:45 PM
Cortland the favorite in its  SUNYAC (State University of NY AC) as it has been for a number of years. Has dominated the seven college alignment for a good part of its longtime existence. But other teams have shown considerable growth -- all of them in spring trip play, most in Florida, Oneonta in Puerto Rico. Oswego is ranked at 8-1 and returns a huge roster from last season's NCAA tourney squad and did beat Cortland a game in '15. Brockport another threat. Good weather has allowed NY teams to get a big jump on the season.
     As for Cortland, has played a strong early schedule -- Marietta, Salisbury, Johns Hopkins, Rutgers-Camden, UWL -- all ranked at the time, and others. Faces Ithaca in the near future. Corts/Oswego won't meet till late April 3 games/2 day series. Don't see this crew being as strong as last year. But was very deep last year and returned much. Pitching took a hit when '15 ace Alex Weingarten was scratched from the roster but a couple of new arms have already contributed.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 15, 2016, 12:48:09 PM
Thanks for the background info jdex!!!

Regardless of where one stands on the pitch count subject, I would think that most (if not all) would agree that throwing 140+ pitches in your first outing of the season is not ideal.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on March 15, 2016, 12:58:15 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 15, 2016, 12:48:09 PM
Thanks for the background info jdex!!!

Regardless of where one stands on the pitch count subject, I would think that most (if not all) would agree that throwing 140+ pitches in your first outing of the season is not ideal.

I might be the minority but I don't see throwing 140 pitches at any point of the season as being ok.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 15, 2016, 02:02:41 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 15, 2016, 12:58:15 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 15, 2016, 12:48:09 PM
Thanks for the background info jdex!!!

Regardless of where one stands on the pitch count subject, I would think that most (if not all) would agree that throwing 140+ pitches in your first outing of the season is not ideal.

I might be the minority but I don't see throwing 140 pitches at any point of the season as being ok.
Speaking as someone who did it (not at the college level though) I think there is a time and place where it is allowable....  That being a "senior stud" in what could be the last outing of his career.  The caveat being that he is not going to be playing at the next level.

I threw 140+ pitches on numerous occasions in my younger days...  Maybe since I was never a "flame thrower" (topped out low-mid 80's) I was able to bounce back quickly and it didn't really affect me...  Who knows?  I will say however, I threw A LOT as a kid (no curveball/slider until high school) and that probably had something to do with it.  It is enjoyable being able to still gets guys out on Sunday afternoon's when they are about half my age!!!  ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 15, 2016, 02:06:53 PM
Results to date:

Platteville: 3-1; Elmhurst (L, 9-10), Milwaukee School of Engineering (W, 2.0), Loras (W, 12-1), Northland (W, 15-5)
Next: Lasell 3/18

Stout: 2-1; Heildelberg (W, 6-5), Heildelberg (W, 7-4), Bethel (L, 4-8)
Next: Wooster 3/16

La Crosse: 2-2; Anderson (W, 11-1), Anderson (W, 24-1), Rutgers-Camden (L, 4-16), SUNY Cortland (L, 3-4)
Next: Ripon 3/15

Oshkosh: 0-4; North Park (L, 1-4), Concordia-Chicago (L, 1-4), Buena Vista (L, 3-12), Webster (L, 3-4)
Next: St Scholastica 3/18

Stevens Point: 0-0; Next: UMass-Dartmouth 3/17

WHITEWATER: 0-0; Next: Anderson 3/17

Conference: 7-8  .470

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 15, 2016, 02:38:15 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 15, 2016, 02:02:41 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 15, 2016, 12:58:15 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 15, 2016, 12:48:09 PM
Thanks for the background info jdex!!!

Regardless of where one stands on the pitch count subject, I would think that most (if not all) would agree that throwing 140+ pitches in your first outing of the season is not ideal.

I might be the minority but I don't see throwing 140 pitches at any point of the season as being ok.
Speaking as someone who did it (not at the college level though) I think there is a time and place where it is allowable....  That being a "senior stud" in what could be the last outing of his career.  The caveat being that he is not going to be playing at the next level.

I threw 140+ pitches on numerous occasions in my younger days...  Maybe since I was never a "flame thrower" (topped out low-mid 80's) I was able to bounce back quickly and it didn't really affect me...  Who knows?  I will say however, I threw A LOT as a kid (no curveball/slider until high school) and that probably had something to do with it.  It is enjoyable being able to still gets guys out on Sunday afternoon's when they are about half my age!!!  ;D

We never even counted pitches when I played (high school) and I doubt I ever threw that many pitches in a high school game.  But I did pitch for at least two and sometimes three different teams in the summer and it wasn't unusual to pitch multiple games in a single week.  Plus those were nine inning games rather than seven so I don't doubt that I threw that many pitches in a game not to mention how many in a typical week. 

Today I have severe arthritis in my right shoulder.  Some days it's painful to even lift my arm. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 15, 2016, 02:46:36 PM
La Crosse puts up a 12 spot in the first inning off of Ripon freshman pitcher (and Kimberly native) Brice Swick to take a commanding lead in Game #1 of a DH against the Red Hawks in Florida....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 15, 2016, 03:59:26 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 15, 2016, 02:46:36 PM
La Crosse puts up a 12 spot in the first inning off of Ripon freshman pitcher (and Kimberly native) Brice Swick to take a commanding lead in Game #1 of a DH against the Red Hawks in Florida....

Were they all off Swick??  Feeding him to the wolves so to speak??
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 15, 2016, 05:41:34 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 15, 2016, 03:59:26 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 15, 2016, 02:46:36 PM
La Crosse puts up a 12 spot in the first inning off of Ripon freshman pitcher (and Kimberly native) Brice Swick to take a commanding lead in Game #1 of a DH against the Red Hawks in Florida....
Were they all off Swick??  Feeding him to the wolves so to speak??
Not sure if all, but majority were....  That outing should really boost his confidence!!!  ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 16, 2016, 10:21:51 AM
Results to date:

Platteville: 3-1; Elmhurst (L, 9-10), Milwaukee School of Engineering (W, 2.0), Loras (W, 12-1), Northland (W, 15-5)
Next: Lasell 3/18

Stout: 3-1; Heildelberg (W, 6-5), Heildelberg (W, 7-4), Bethel (L, 4-8), Bethel (W, 2-1)
Next: Wooster 3/16

La Crosse: 4-2; Anderson (W, 11-1), Anderson (W, 24-1), Rutgers-Camden (L, 4-16), SUNY Cortland (L, 3-4), Ripon (W, 18-0), Ripon (W, 15-5)
Next: Rowan 3/17 (DH)

Oshkosh: 0-4; North Park (L, 1-4), Concordia-Chicago (L, 1-4), Buena Vista (L, 3-12), Webster (L, 3-4)
Next: St Scholastica 3/18

Stevens Point: 0-0; Next: UMass-Dartmouth 3/17

WHITEWATER: 0-0; Next: Anderson 3/17

Conference: 10-8 .560

Stout won the second game with Bethel on a wild pitch. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 16, 2016, 10:45:13 AM
BW-
I was in the middle of a reply, but I see you deleted part of your original reply....  :D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 16, 2016, 11:23:25 AM
I might be jumping the gun on that.  He had a great summer in the Northwoods League and he's off to a great start this season hitting over .600.  But it's only 13 at bats and when I did a little more research and noticed he only hit .269 last year I thought it best to back off for now lest you take me to task and I look stupid later.  But I'm still high on him and now you know who it was so we'll see where the season takes him.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 16, 2016, 01:39:58 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 16, 2016, 11:23:25 AM
I might be jumping the gun on that.  He had a great summer in the Northwoods League and he's off to a great start this season hitting over .600.  But it's only 13 at bats and when I did a little more research and noticed he only hit .269 last year I thought it best to back off for now lest you take me to task and I look stupid later.  But I'm still high on him and now you know who it was so we'll see where the season takes him.
The only thing I was going to say was that there was another player with nearly identical numbers except for one more at-bat...  I would NEVER take you to task!!!  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on March 16, 2016, 07:22:49 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 14, 2016, 10:18:16 PM
Ben Diedrick seems like a good get for Point.  Former 1st Team All Stater that was a scholarship football player for St Cloud State.

Good player.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 17, 2016, 02:01:29 PM
McHugh struggling with control early in the opener for Point.  Walked 3 guys in the first and hit a guy on a 3-2 count in the 3rd.  Tied up 1-1.

Lineup goes Mrozinski at C, Rose at 2nd, Greco at SS, Hanke at 1st, Doornink DP, Strommen LF, Schultz RF, Iloncaie 3B and T. Thomka in CF
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 17, 2016, 03:52:29 PM
Point pulls out a win in their opener 5-2 over Umass-Dartmouth.  Got plenty of hits, just couldn't come up with the big hit to break it open.  Spaeth and Miller looked really good in relief of McHugh.  Hanke was pitched around most of the game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 17, 2016, 04:03:13 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 17, 2016, 02:01:29 PM
McHugh struggling with control early in the opener for Point.  Walked 3 guys in the first and hit a guy on a 3-2 count in the 3rd.  Tied up 1-1.

Lineup goes Mrozinski at C, Rose at 2nd, Greco at SS, Hanke at 1st, Doornink DP, Strommen LF, Schultz RF, Iloncaie 3B and T. Thomka in CF
Is this baseball or softball?  ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 17, 2016, 07:07:25 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 17, 2016, 04:03:13 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 17, 2016, 02:01:29 PM
McHugh struggling with control early in the opener for Point.  Walked 3 guys in the first and hit a guy on a 3-2 count in the 3rd.  Tied up 1-1.

Lineup goes Mrozinski at C, Rose at 2nd, Greco at SS, Hanke at 1st, Doornink DP, Strommen LF, Schultz RF, Iloncaie 3B and T. Thomka in CF
Is this baseball or softball?  ;D

Sorry, it's a habit...I'm a high school softball coach.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 18, 2016, 04:00:24 PM
UWO drops to 0-5 after falling 3-2 today against St. Scholastica.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 18, 2016, 09:13:20 PM
Point drops both to Rutgers-Camden today.  First game was a 10-0 defeat and the 2nd game went to extras, didn't see an actual final score for it though.  Luke Watson threw a gem in the 2nd game but it wasn't enough.  Rutgers-Camden has taken down two WIAC heavyweights already in this young season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 18, 2016, 11:16:45 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 18, 2016, 04:00:24 PM
UWO drops to 0-5 after falling 3-2 today against St. Scholastica.....

"Coach Lechnir? We made a mistake... can you please take us back?"
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 19, 2016, 09:16:13 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 18, 2016, 09:13:20 PM
Point drops both to Rutgers-Camden today.  First game was a 10-0 defeat and the 2nd game went to extras, didn't see an actual final score for it though.  Luke Watson threw a gem in the 2nd game but it wasn't enough.  Rutgers-Camden has taken down two WIAC heavyweights already in this young season.

Watson went 6 2/3, 5 hits and 4 runs...but none of them earned, looks the like the defense was their undoing in their 2nd game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 19, 2016, 09:50:45 AM
It's going to be a long season for point.  The defense is very mediocre and I'd be very concerned about scoring runs also.  Teams know they can pitch around hanke all year.  Did anyone else notice point only has 10 home games this year?  Will anyone even get 5 home runs this year?  As far as Oshkosh is concerned I feel they can bounce back in the wiac now that it appears lacrosse and point will be down.  Is it possible stout or platteville finish second?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 19, 2016, 11:05:14 AM
The WARHAWKS opened the season with a 9-2 win over the Anderson Ravens.  Will Helbing opened the scoring by driving in a run with a sac fly in the third.  A Cal Aldridge home run accounted for the second of three runs scored in the inning a while Jordan Kuczynski's RBI double drove in the third.  Kuczynski's sac fly drove in a fifth run in the fifth and the WARHAWKS added four in the seventh when two runs scored due to Raven errors, Kuczynski added another RBI with a another double and Alex Hallenback drove in a run with a sac fly.  Lake Bachar picked up the win   Anderson scored single runs in the sixth and ninth.  The WARHAWKS had 8 steals in the game.

Hitting:
Daytona Bryden: 2x5; Blake Fleischman: 2x5; Steve Chamberlain: 2x5, 2 RS; Austin Jones: 2x5, 2 RS; Jordan Kuczynski: 2x2, 2 RS, 3 RBI, DBL; Cal Aldridge: Will Helbing: 1x1, 1 RBI; Cal Aldridge: 1x4, 1 RS, 2 RBI, HR.

Pitching:
Lake Bachar (W, 1-0): 5.1 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 ER, O BB, 6K; Connor Hurst: 1.2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K; Heath Renz: 1.0 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 K; Mike Nompleggi: 1.0 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 2 K
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 19, 2016, 12:33:05 PM
The WARHAWKS improved to 2-0 on the season with a 4-1 victory over Framington State.  Framington State opened the scoring with their only run in their first at bat but the WARHAWKS answered with four runs in their third at bat.  Jordan Kuczynski opened the inning with a double and advanced to third when Cal Aldridge singled.  Daytona Bryden's single drove in Kuczynski and triple by Will Helbing drove in both Aldridge and Bryden.  Helbing also scored on the play due to a throwing error.  The WARHAWKS had four steals in this game bringing the season total to 12-12. 

Hitting:
Daytona Bryden: 3x4, 1 RS, 1 RBI; Will Helbing: 1x4, 1 RS, 2 RBI, 3B; Steve Chamberlain: 2x4; Jordan Kuczynski: 1x4, 1 RS, 2B; Cal Aldridge: 1x4, 1 RS.

Pitching: Curtis Morgan (W, 1-0): 6 IP, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 5 K; John Olejniczak: 1.2 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K; Matt Langlie: .1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 K; riley Gruetzmacher (S-1): 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 1 K.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 19, 2016, 01:12:21 PM
Point and WW's games today have been cancelled due to bad weather.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 20, 2016, 01:04:49 PM
Point chokes one away today against Wheaton(MA).  Point takes a 4-3 lead in the top of the 9th, Spaeth gives up 2 in the bottom of the 9th for the loss.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 20, 2016, 01:39:20 PM
Another day, another loss for UWO, as they fall 7-5 to Eastern Connecticut State to drop to 0-6 on the season...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 21, 2016, 02:34:45 PM
UWO finally finds the "W" column, with a 7-3 victory over Allegheny College....

After UWO scores three runs in the 8th inning to tie things up, Allegheny starts the 9th with back-to-back walks.  A poor decision on a bunt loaded the bases, and a wild pitch allowed the go-ahead run to score.

At this point, I'm sure UWO will take the win any way they can get it!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 22, 2016, 12:03:20 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 21, 2016, 02:49:02 PM
Results to date:

Platteville: 6-2; Elmhurst (L, 9-10), Milwaukee School of Engineering (W, 2.0), Loras (W, 12-1), Northland (W, 15-5), Lasell (W, 13-5), Augustana (L, 5-7), St Lawrence (W, 6-5)
Next: Purchase St  3/22

Stout: 6-5;  Heidelberg (W, 6-5), Heidelberg (W, 7-4), Bethel (L, 4-8), Bethel (W, 2-1),Wooster (L, 2-12),  John Hopkins (L, 13-16), Augustana (W, 4-2), Edgewood (W, 10-5), Edgewood (L, 5-14), Vassar (W, 7-3), Vassar (L, 3-13)
Next: St Thomas 3/30

La Crosse: 6-4; Anderson (W, 11-1), Anderson (W, 24-1), Rutgers-Camden (L, 4-16), SUNY Cortland (L, 3-4), Ripon (W, 18-0), Ripon (W, 15-5), Rowan (W, 8-3), Rowan (L, 1-3), Benedictine (L, 1-12), William Paterson (W, 15-9)
Next: St Marys 3/24

Oshkosh: 1-6; North Park (L, 1-4), Concordia-Chicago (L, 1-4), Buena Vista (L, 3-12), Webster (L, 3-4), St Scholastica (L, 2-3), Eastern Connecticut (L, 5-7), Allegheny (W, 7-3)
Next: Salve Regina (DH) 3/22

Stevens Point:1-3; U Mass Dartmouth (W, 5-2), Rutgers-Camden (L, 4-5), Rutgers-Camden (L, 0-10), Wheaton (L, 4-5), Washington/Jefferson (in progress)
Next: St Thomas 3/22

WHITEWATER: 2-0; Anderson (W, 8-2), Framington State (W, 4-1)
Next: St Olaf 3/22

WIAC:  22-19  .540



Slight correction on Stout, they have another loss on their schedule, to Wooster.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 22, 2016, 08:01:07 PM
Point hits 3 bombs, has a 9-6 lead into the bottom of the 8th...and still loses to St Thomas 10-9 in extras.  This team obviously needs to figure out someone who can shut a team down when you have a lead....extremely frustrating team to follow thus far.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 22, 2016, 08:53:21 PM
They better finish strong there or they'll be out of pool c conversation I figured walder would be closer.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 23, 2016, 11:09:21 AM
Whitewater tied 1-1 with St Scholastica going to the 8th.  WW had the lead in the 7th but Georkakas relieved Morgan and gave up an earned run.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 23, 2016, 11:19:18 AM
UWO with a DH sweep of Salve Regina yesterday to run their winning streak to three games. 

They won the opener 20-3 and then came back from 6-3 and 9-7 deficits to win the nightcap 10-9.  Robbie Kleman had the game winning hit, a "walk-off" one out, two-run double in the seventh inning.  (Not exactly sure why the game only went seven innings.)

Will be interesting to see how UWO does in their last two games of the trip, as they play two traditionally strong teams in St. Thomas and Southern Maine.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 23, 2016, 11:44:49 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 23, 2016, 11:09:21 AM
Whitewater tied 1-1 with St Scholastica going to the 8th.  WW had the lead in the 7th but Georkakas relieved Morgan and gave up an earned run.
Whitewater pushes across solo runs in the 8th and 9th innings to earn a 3-1 victory over CSS and improve to 4-0 on the season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 23, 2016, 12:21:50 PM
Point has pounded out 12 hits in just three innings to get out to an early 11-1 lead over Washington and Jefferson down in Florida...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 23, 2016, 04:28:00 PM
Point down to Southern Maine 4-0 in the 7th in their second game of the day.  Luke Watson got the start.  If Watson isn't able to get the tough wins against their best competition, this Point team will struggle mightily to put together a resume good enough to make it to Regionals.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on March 23, 2016, 07:01:39 PM
Titans lose a close one to St Thomas 5-4.  Jewell scatters 12 hits in 8 innings for the loss.  :'(
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 23, 2016, 07:02:31 PM
UWO drops 5-4 decision to St. Thomas today to drop to 3-7 on the season....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 23, 2016, 07:03:22 PM
Quote from: AppletonRocks on March 23, 2016, 07:01:39 PM
Titans lose a close one to St Thomas 5-4.  Jewell scatters 12 hits in 8 innings for the loss.  :'(
Actually 14 hits...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 24, 2016, 03:19:42 PM
Results to date:

Platteville: 8-2; Elmhurst (L, 9-10), Milwaukee School of Engineering (W, 2.0), Loras (W, 12-1), Northland (W, 15-5), Lasell (W, 13-5), Augustana (L, 5-7), St Lawrence (W, 6-5), SUNY-Purchase (W, 12-2), Western Connecticut State (W, 15-11), Milikin (W, 16-5)
Next: Wooster 3/25

Stout: 6-5;  Heidelberg (W, 6-5), Heidelberg (W, 7-4), Bethel (L, 4-8), Bethel (W, 2-1), Wooster (L, 2-12)  John Hopkins (L, 13-16), Augustana (W, 4-2), Edgewood (W, 10-5), Edgewood (L, 5-14), Vassar (W, 7-3), Vassar (L, 3-13)
Next: St Thomas 3/30

La Crosse: 6-4; Anderson (W, 11-1), Anderson (W, 24-1), Rutgers-Camden (L, 4-16), SUNY Cortland (L, 3-4), Ripon (W, 18-0), Ripon (W, 15-5), Rowan (W, 8-3), Rowan (L, 1-3), Benedictine (L, 1-12), William Paterson (W, 15-9)
Next: St Marys 3/29

Oshkosh: 3-8; North Park (L, 1-4), Concordia-Chicago (L, 1-4), Buena Vista (L, 3-12), Webster (L, 3-4), St Scholastica (L, 2-3), Eastern Connecticut (L, 5-7), Allegheny (W, 7-3), Salve Regina (W, 20-3), Salve Regina (W, 10-9), St Thomas (L, 4-5), Southern Maine (L, 4-7)
Next: Chicago 4/2

Stevens Point:2-6; U Mass Dartmouth (W, 5-2), Rutgers-Camden (L, 4-5), Rutgers-Camden (L, 0-10), Wheaton (L, 4-5), St Thomas (L, 9-10), Washington & Jefferson (W, 12-1), Southern Maine (L, 2-5), SUNY-Oswego (L, 2-5)
Next: St Joesph's 3/25

WHITEWATER: 6-0; Anderson (W, 8-2), Framington State (W, 4-1), St Olaf (W, 16-0), St Scholastica (W, 3-1), St Scholastica (W, 9-2), Eastern Connecticut State (W, 4-3)
Next: Southern Maine 3/25

WIAC: 31-25  .553

The WARHAWKS extended their winning streak to six with a pair of come from behind rallies for a 4-3 ten inning win over Eastern Connecticut State.  Trailing 2-0 the WARHAWKS cut the deficit in half with a run in the fifth when Cal Aldridge homered to right field and tied the game with one out in the bottom of the ninth with a sacrifice fly from Austin Jones.  However ESC recaptured the lead 3-2 with a run in tenth.  But the WARHAWKS rallied once again tying the score with a run scored via a fielders choice and scoring the winning run on Daytona Bryden's single. 

Hitting: Aldridge: 2x3, 1 RS, 1 RBI, HR; Jones: 1x3, 1 RBI; Bryden: 1x5, 1 RBI; Will Helbing: 1x3, 2B.
Pitching: Mike Nompleggi: 5 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 3 BB, 6 K; John Olejniczak: 3 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 3 K; Heath Renz (W, 1-0): 2 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 3 K.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 24, 2016, 06:09:32 PM
Another game...another loss for Point, 5-2 to Oswego...Ben Miller takes the loss.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on March 24, 2016, 06:35:19 PM
Nice win for the Hawks today. On a day in which runs didn't come easily, UW-W played small ball to tie the game in the 9th. A hit batter, pinch runner, stolen base, advance to third on fly out, score on sac fly.  Then after falling behind in top of the 9th, Hawks score 2 to win it.  I know teams are just getting their kinks out right now, but that would be a great identity for UW-W to begin to form.  I can't comment on the level of competition, but 6-0 with a team batting average of .356 and a team ERA of 1.36 seems to qualify as a good start.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 24, 2016, 11:21:15 PM
Bloom sure knew when to leave.  Just not a ton of talent on this team as compared to years past. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 25, 2016, 06:35:37 PM
Results to date:

Platteville: 8-3; Elmhurst (L, 9-10), Milwaukee School of Engineering (W, 2.0), Loras (W, 12-1), Northland (W, 15-5), Lasell (W, 13-5), Augustana (L, 5-7), St Lawrence (W, 6-5), SUNY-Purchase (W, 12-2), Western Connecticut State (W, 15-11), Milikin (W, 16-5), Wooster (L, 8-9)
Next: Marian (DH) 3/29

Stout: 6-5;  Heidelberg (W, 6-5), Heidelberg (W, 7-4), Bethel (L, 4-8), Bethel (W, 2-1), Wooster (L, 2-12)  John Hopkins (L, 13-16), Augustana (W, 4-2), Edgewood (W, 10-5), Edgewood (L, 5-14), Vassar (W, 7-3), Vassar (L, 3-13)
Next: St Thomas 3/30

La Crosse: 6-4; Anderson (W, 11-1), Anderson (W, 24-1), Rutgers-Camden (L, 4-16), SUNY Cortland (L, 3-4), Ripon (W, 18-0), Ripon (W, 15-5), Rowan (W, 8-3), Rowan (L, 1-3), Benedictine (L, 1-12), William Paterson (W, 15-9)
Next: St Marys DH 3/29

Oshkosh: 3-8; North Park (L, 1-4), Concordia-Chicago (L, 1-4), Buena Vista (L, 3-12), Webster (L, 3-4), St Scholastica (L, 2-3), Eastern Connecticut (L, 5-7), Allegheny (W, 7-3), Salve Regina (W, 20-3), Salve Regina (W, 10-9), St Thomas (L, 4-5), Southern Maine (L, 4-7)
Next: Chicago 4/2

Stevens Point:2-7; U Mass Dartmouth (W, 5-2), Rutgers-Camden (L, 4-5), Rutgers-Camden (L, 0-10), Wheaton (L, 4-5), St Thomas (L, 9-10), Washington & Jefferson (W, 12-1), Southern Maine (L, 2-5), SUNY-Oswego (L, 2-5), St Joesph's (L, 4-16)
Next: St Norbert 4/2

WHITEWATER: 7-0; Anderson (W, 8-2), Framington State (W, 4-1), St Olaf (W, 16-0), St Scholastica (W, 3-1), St Scholastica (W, 9-2), Eastern Connecticut State (W, 4-3), Southern Maine (W, 2-0)
Next: St Thomas 3/27

WIAC: 32-27  .542

Pitching and small ball got the job done today as the WARHAWKS slipped past Southern Maine 2-0.  A walk, single, double steal and a Jordan Kuczynski sacrifice fly accounted for the first run in the bottom of the fourth.  Austin Jones RBI double pushed Dane Burman, who had walked to lead off, across the plate with the insurance run in the sixth.  Ankur Shah went 8 innings allowing 5 hits and striking out 7 without a walk.   

Hitting: Jones: 2x3, 1 RBI, 2B; Daytona Bryden: 2x4; Steve Chamberlain: 2x4; Kuczynski: 1 RBI
Pitching: Ankur Shah (W, 1-0): 8 IP, 5 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 7 K;  Matt Langlie: 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 0 K
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 26, 2016, 03:30:37 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 24, 2016, 11:21:15 PM
Bloom sure knew when to leave.  Just not a ton of talent on this team as compared to years past.

Most great coaches know exactly when to walk away from their programs. Ideally, they see the issues coming down the road before anyone else does. Conversely, could the slight dip at Point also be a result of losing a great coach?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 27, 2016, 04:34:27 PM
Results to date:

Platteville: 8-3; Elmhurst (L, 9-10), Milwaukee School of Engineering (W, 2.0), Loras (W, 12-1), Northland (W, 15-5), Lasell (W, 13-5), Augustana (L, 5-7), St Lawrence (W, 6-5), SUNY-Purchase (W, 12-2), Western Connecticut State (W, 15-11), Milikin (W, 16-5), Wooster (L, 8-9)
Next: Marian (DH) 3/29

Stout: 6-5;  Heidelberg (W, 6-5), Heidelberg (W, 7-4), Bethel (L, 4-8), Bethel (W, 2-1), Wooster (L, 2-12)  John Hopkins (L, 13-16), Augustana (W, 4-2), Edgewood (W, 10-5), Edgewood (L, 5-14), Vassar (W, 7-3), Vassar (L, 3-13)
Next: St Thomas 3/30

La Crosse: 6-4; Anderson (W, 11-1), Anderson (W, 24-1), Rutgers-Camden (L, 4-16), SUNY Cortland (L, 3-4), Ripon (W, 18-0), Ripon (W, 15-5), Rowan (W, 8-3), Rowan (L, 1-3), Benedictine (L, 1-12), William Paterson (W, 15-9)
Next: St Marys DH 3/29

Oshkosh: 3-8; North Park (L, 1-4), Concordia-Chicago (L, 1-4), Buena Vista (L, 3-12), Webster (L, 3-4), St Scholastica (L, 2-3), Eastern Connecticut (L, 5-7), Allegheny (W, 7-3), Salve Regina (W, 20-3), Salve Regina (W, 10-9), St Thomas (L, 4-5), Southern Maine (L, 4-7)
Next: Chicago 4/2

Stevens Point:2-7; U Mass Dartmouth (W, 5-2), Rutgers-Camden (L, 4-5), Rutgers-Camden (L, 0-10), Wheaton (L, 4-5), St Thomas (L, 9-10), Washington & Jefferson (W, 12-1), Southern Maine (L, 2-5), SUNY-Oswego (L, 2-5), St Joesph's (L, 4-16)
Next: St Norbert 4/2

WHITEWATER: 8-0; Anderson (W, 8-2), Framington State (W, 4-1), St Olaf (W, 16-0), St Scholastica (W, 3-1), St Scholastica (W, 9-2), Eastern Connecticut State (W, 4-3), Southern Maine (W, 2-0), St Thomas (W, 11-0)
Next: Castleton 3/29

WIAC: 33-27  .550


A took four innings but once the WARHAWKS offense got untracked it finished with a season high 17 hits and routed St Thomas 13-1.  The first WARHAWKS runs came when consecutive singles by Steve Chamberlain, Austin Jones and Jordan Kuczynski loaded the bases for Blake Fleischmann who doubled driving in two runs.  Kuczynski later scored on a passed ball making the score 3-0.  The WARHAWKS doubled the lead to 6-0 with three more runs in the seventh.  A walk and back to back singles loaded the bases before Justin Wegner drove in a pair and Trent Borgardt a single run.  Aided by slopping fielding and pitching from the Tommies the WARHAWKS put a five spot on the board in the eighth.  The first run scored on a passed ball and Will Helbing's sacrifice fly scored the second run.  That was followed by RBI singles from Chamberlain and Kuczynski (2).  St Thomas scored their only run in the eighth when they loaded the bases with no outs and hit into a fielders choice double play.  The final WARHAWKS runs were scored when Wegner doubled in another pair of runners in the ninth.

Hitting: Chamberlain: 4x6, 2 RS, 1 RBI, Wegner: 3x4, 1 RS, 4 RBI, 2B; Kuczynski: 2x5, 1 RS, 2 RBI; Fleischmann: 1x4, 2 RBI, 2B; Bryden 2x5, 2 RS, 2B; Borgardt: 1x2, 1 RBI; Helbing: 1 RBI.
Pitching: Lake Bachar (3-0): 7 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 7 K; Jon Olejniczak: 1 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 0 K; Heath Renz: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 29, 2016, 12:35:13 PM
Results to date:

Platteville: 9-4; Elmhurst (L, 9-10), Milwaukee School of Engineering (W, 2.0), Loras (W, 12-1), Northland (W, 15-5), Lasell (W, 13-5), Augustana (L, 5-7), St Lawrence (W, 6-5), SUNY-Purchase (W, 12-2), Western Connecticut State (W, 15-11), Milikin (W, 16-5), Wooster (L, 8-9), Marian (W, 10-0), Marian (L, 4-9)
Next: Lawrence DH 4/1

Stout: 6-5;  Heidelberg (W, 6-5), Heidelberg (W, 7-4), Bethel (L, 4-8), Bethel (W, 2-1), Wooster (L, 2-12)  John Hopkins (L, 13-16), Augustana (W, 4-2), Edgewood (W, 10-5), Edgewood (L, 5-14), Vassar (W, 7-3), Vassar (L, 3-13)
Next: Macalester 4/3   (St Thomas 3/30...ppd) 

La Crosse: 8-4; Anderson (W, 11-1), Anderson (W, 24-1), Rutgers-Camden (L, 4-16), SUNY Cortland (L, 3-4), Ripon (W, 18-0), Ripon (W, 15-5), Rowan (W, 8-3), Rowan (L, 1-3), Benedictine (L, 1-12), William Paterson (W, 15-9), St Marys (W, 9-2), St Marys (W, 8-1)
Next: St Scholastica (DH) 4/2

Oshkosh: 3-8; North Park (L, 1-4), Concordia-Chicago (L, 1-4), Buena Vista (L, 3-12), Webster (L, 3-4), St Scholastica (L, 2-3), Eastern Connecticut (L, 5-7), Allegheny (W, 7-3), Salve Regina (W, 20-3), Salve Regina (W, 10-9), St Thomas (L, 4-5), Southern Maine (L, 4-7)
Next: Chicago 4/2

Stevens Point:2-7; U Mass Dartmouth (W, 5-2), Rutgers-Camden (L, 4-5), Rutgers-Camden (L, 0-10), Wheaton (L, 4-5), St Thomas (L, 9-10), Washington & Jefferson (W, 12-1), Southern Maine (L, 2-5), SUNY-Oswego (L, 2-5), St Joesph's (L, 4-16)
Next: St Norbert 4/2

WHITEWATER: 9-0; Anderson (W, 8-2), Framington State (W, 4-1), St Olaf (W, 16-0), St Scholastica (W, 3-1), St Scholastica (W, 9-2), Eastern Connecticut State (W, 4-3), Southern Maine (W, 2-0), St Thomas (W, 11-0), Castleton (W, 2-1)
Next: Ripon (DH) 4/2

WIAC: 37-28  .569


The WARHAWKS wrapped up their spring trip with a 2-1 win over Castleton extending their winning streak to nine.  Castleton opened the scoring with a single run on four singles in the third inning prompting the insertion of relief pitcher Mike Nompleggi who ended the rally with a pair of strikeouts.  The WARHAWKS got that run back in the bottom of the inning playing small ball.  With one out Daytona Bryden walked, stole second and scored when Blake Fleischman singled.  The WARHAWKS scored the winning run an inning later when Trent Borgardt led off with a double, took two bases on a sacrifice bunt and scored on a ground out. 

Hitting: Steve Chamberlain: 2x3; Fleischman: 1x4, 1 RBI; Alex Hallenbeck: 1 RBI; Borgardt: 1x4, 1 RS, 2B; Bryden: 1X4, 1 RS.
Pitching.  Curtis Morgan: 2.1 IP, 6 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 3K; Mike Nompleggi (W, 1-0): 6.2 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 6 K, 22 BF.




Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on April 02, 2016, 07:48:13 AM
Whitewater sweeps Ripon Friday

Game One

UW-W 10
Ripon 1

Bachar gets the win throwing 6 innings striking out 7, giving up four hits, no walks, and one unearned run
2 hits apiece for Fleischman, Aldridge, Jones, Kuczyinski, and Diekvoss
Fleischman homered and drove in 4 runs.

Game Two


UW-W 14
Ripon 1

Morgan gets the win going 4 innings, striking out 2, walking 0, allowing 4 hits and 1 ER.
3 hits apiece: Aldridge, Chamberlain
2 hits apiece:  Jones, Kuczynski


Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 02, 2016, 09:08:29 AM
Results to date:

Platteville: 9-4; Elmhurst (L, 9-10), Milwaukee School of Engineering (W, 2.0), Loras (W, 12-1), Northland (W, 15-5), Lasell (W, 13-5), Augustana (L, 5-7), St Lawrence (W, 6-5), SUNY-Purchase (W, 12-2), Western Connecticut State (W, 15-11), Milikin (W, 16-5), Wooster (L, 8-9), Marian (W, 10-0), Marian (L, 4-9)
Next: Chicago 4/3

Stout: 6-5;  Heidelberg (W, 6-5), Heidelberg (W, 7-4), Bethel (L, 4-8), Bethel (W, 2-1), Wooster (L, 2-12)  John Hopkins (L, 13-16), Augustana (W, 4-2), Edgewood (W, 10-5), Edgewood (L, 5-14), Vassar (W, 7-3), Vassar (L, 3-13)
Next: Macalester 4/3   

La Crosse: 9-4; Anderson (W, 11-1), Anderson (W, 24-1), Rutgers-Camden (L, 4-16), SUNY Cortland (L, 3-4), Ripon (W, 18-0), Ripon (W, 15-5), Rowan (W, 8-3), Rowan (L, 1-3), Benedictine (L, 1-12), William Paterson (W, 15-9), St Marys (W, 9-2), St Marys (W, 8-1), St Scholastica (W, 14-4)
Next: St Scholastica  4/3

Oshkosh: 3-8; North Park (L, 1-4), Concordia-Chicago (L, 1-4), Buena Vista (L, 3-12), Webster (L, 3-4), St Scholastica (L, 2-3), Eastern Connecticut (L, 5-7), Allegheny (W, 7-3), Salve Regina (W, 20-3), Salve Regina (W, 10-9), St Thomas (L, 4-5), Southern Maine (L, 4-7)
Next: Chicago 4/2

Stevens Point:4-8; U Mass Dartmouth (W, 5-2), Rutgers-Camden (L, 4-5), Rutgers-Camden (L, 0-10), Wheaton (L, 4-5), Union (W, 7-6), St Thomas (L, 9-10), Washington & Jefferson (W, 12-1), Southern Maine (L, 2-5), SUNY-Oswego (L, 2-5), St Joesph's (L, 4-16), St Norbert (W, 3-0), St Norbert (L, 0-2)
Next: Ripon 4/3

WHITEWATER: 11-0; Anderson (W, 8-2), Framington State (W, 4-1), St Olaf (W, 16-0), St Scholastica (W, 3-1), St Scholastica (W, 9-2), Eastern Connecticut State (W, 4-3), Southern Maine (W, 2-0), St Thomas (W, 11-0), Castleton (W, 2-1), Ripon (W, 10-1),  Ripon (W, 14-1)
Next: St Norbert 4/5

WIAC:  42-29 .591

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The WARHAWKS took a pair from Ripon by scores of 10-1 and 14-1.  In game one the WARHAWKS got on the board quickly when Daytona Bryden reached on a walk and Blake Fleischmann drilled a two run home run to right center.  Two more WARHAWKS runs crossed the plate in the third inning on a pair of walks, a sacrifice bunt, an RBI groundout and an Austin Jones RBI single.  Fleischmann drove in another pair of runs in the fourth with a blopper that fell just out of the reach of both SS and LF.  Cal Aldridge's single drove in a run in the sixth and another WARHAWKS run scored in the seventh on a passed ball.  The final pair of WARHAWKS runs came in the eighth when a bases loaded walk forced a run in and Alex Hallenbeck ground out drove in another.  Ripon's only run, unearned, came in the sixth. 

Hitting: Fleischmann: 2x2, 2 RS, 4 RBI, HR; Aldridge: 2x4, 1 RS, 1 RBI; Jones: 2x3, 1 RBI, 2B; Kuczynski: 2x4, 1 RS, 1 RBI; Trent Diekvoss: 2x3, 2 RS, 2B; Chamberlain: 1x4, 1 RS, 1 RBI.
Pitching: Bachar (W, 3-0): 6 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 7 K; John Olejniczak: 2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K; Heath Renz: 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K. 

The WARHAWKS put four runs on the board in the second inning of game two with Trent Borgardt's RBI single, a fielding error, a wild pitch and Bryden's sacrifice bunt.  Ripon answered with a run in the third but the WARHAWKS got a pair in their at bat with RBI singles by Chamberlain and Justin Wegner.   Aldridge, Austin Jones, Kuczynski (2) and Diekvoss (3) all had RBIs in the WARHAWKS seven run fourth inning.  Dylan Bersch accounted for the final run when he scored on a double steal in the fifth. 

Hitting: Chamberlain: 3x4, 2 RS, 1 RBI; Aldridge: 3x4, 2 rS, 1 RBI, 2B; Jones: 2x4, 2 RS, 1 RBI; Kuczynski: 2x4, 2 RS, 2 RBI; Diekvoss: 1x3, 3 RBI, 3B; Wegner: 1x3, 2 RBI; Borgardt: 1x3, 2 RS, 1 RBI; Bryden: 1 RBI
Pitching: Curtis Morgan (W, 2-0): 4 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 2 K; Ankur Shuh: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K; Connor Hurst: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 2 K; Riley Gruetzmacher: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 0 K. 



Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 02, 2016, 10:36:59 AM
Point gets a split with st norbert looks like they forgot to take the bats out of the bag. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 02, 2016, 10:52:23 AM
BW-You might want to edit your results post.....

Point in 4-8 after their split with SNC yesterday.  You have them at 4-7, and have them beating SNC both games in your post.  (I believe you are missing their 7-6 victory over Union College between the Wheaton and St Thomas losses.)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 03, 2016, 11:23:53 AM
Thanks, cubs.   Missed Union altogether.  I originally got the Point/Norbert score off of the WIAC website which incorrectly has Point winning both.  I think I'm caught up now. 

Results to date:

Platteville: 10-5; Elmhurst (L, 9-10), Milwaukee School of Engineering (W, 2.0), Loras (W, 12-1), Northland (W, 15-5), Lasell (W, 13-5), Augustana (L, 5-7), St Lawrence (W, 6-5), SUNY-Purchase (W, 12-2), Western Connecticut State (W, 15-11), Milikin (W, 16-5), Wooster (L, 8-9), Marian (W, 10-0), Marian (L, 4-9), Chicago (L, 1-5), Chicago (W, 13-4)
Next: Edgewood 4/6

Stout: 6-5;  Heidelberg (W, 6-5), Heidelberg (W, 7-4), Bethel (L, 4-8), Bethel (W, 2-1), Wooster (L, 2-12)  John Hopkins (L, 13-16), Augustana (W, 4-2), Edgewood (W, 10-5), Edgewood (L, 5-14), Vassar (W, 7-3), Vassar (L, 3-13)
Next: Oshkosh 4/9 

La Crosse: 10-5; Anderson (W, 11-1), Anderson (W, 24-1), Rutgers-Camden (L, 4-16), SUNY Cortland (L, 3-4), Ripon (W, 18-0), Ripon (W, 15-5), Rowan (W, 8-3), Rowan (L, 1-3), Benedictine (L, 1-12), William Paterson (W, 15-9), St Marys (W, 9-2), St Marys (W, 8-1), St Scholastica (W, 14-4), St Scholastica (W, 5-4), St Scholastica (L, 8-12)
Next: Platteville 4/9

Oshkosh: 3-8; North Park (L, 1-4), Concordia-Chicago (L, 1-4), Buena Vista (L, 3-12), Webster (L, 3-4), St Scholastica (L, 2-3), Eastern Connecticut (L, 5-7), Allegheny (W, 7-3), Salve Regina (W, 20-3), Salve Regina (W, 10-9), St Thomas (L, 4-5), Southern Maine (L, 4-7)
Next: Concordia - Wisconsin 4/6

Stevens Point:6-8; U Mass Dartmouth (W, 5-2), Rutgers-Camden (L, 4-5), Rutgers-Camden (L, 0-10), Wheaton (L, 4-5), Union (W, 7-6), St Thomas (L, 9-10), Washington & Jefferson (W, 12-1), Southern Maine (L, 2-5), SUNY-Oswego (L, 2-5), St Joesph's (L, 4-16), St Norbert (W, 3-0), St Norbert (L, 0-2), Ripon (W, 8-4), Ripon (W, 8-2)
Next: WHITEWATER 4/9

WHITEWATER: 11-0; Anderson (W, 8-2), Framington State (W, 4-1), St Olaf (W, 16-0), St Scholastica (W, 3-1), St Scholastica (W, 9-2), Eastern Connecticut State (W, 4-3), Southern Maine (W, 2-0), St Thomas (W, 11-0), Castleton (W, 2-1), Ripon (W, 10-1),  Ripon (W, 14-1)
Next: Stevens Point 4/9

WIAC:  44-29 .600


WARHAWKS junior pitcher Mike Nompleggi has been named to D3baseball.com's Team of the Week.

http://www.uwwsports.com/news/2016/4/5/nompleggi-selected-to-d3baseball-com-team-of-the-week.aspx?path=baseball


 
 

 




Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on April 07, 2016, 08:55:47 AM
Snowing in Suamico.  Better cancel the season.  >:(
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 07, 2016, 09:07:37 AM
Quote from: AppletonRocks on April 07, 2016, 08:55:47 AM
Snowing in Suamico.  Better cancel the season.  >:(

Snowing in Minneapolis as well today ???
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 07, 2016, 12:26:14 PM
Quote from: AppletonRocks on April 07, 2016, 08:55:47 AM
Snowing in Suamico.  Better cancel the season.  >:(
By the looks of the non-conference results, 'm wondering if some teams are considering it!!!!  :o ;D :o
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2016, 01:09:17 PM
I think we'll just keep playing if that's ok.   ;D   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on April 07, 2016, 05:47:34 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2016, 01:09:17 PM
I think we'll just keep playing if that's ok.   ;D   

Humpty Dumpty sat on the wall, something like that...... ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 08, 2016, 09:36:13 AM


Results to date:

Platteville: 10-5; Elmhurst (L, 9-10), Milwaukee School of Engineering (W, 2.0), Loras (W, 12-1), Northland (W, 15-5), Lasell (W, 13-5), Augustana (L, 5-7), St Lawrence (W, 6-5), SUNY-Purchase (W, 12-2), Western Connecticut State (W, 15-11), Milikin (W, 16-5), Wooster (L, 8-9), Marian (W, 10-0), Marian (L, 4-9), Chicago (L, 1-5), Chicago (W, 13-4)
Next: Edgewood 4/6

Stout: 6-5;  Heidelberg (W, 6-5), Heidelberg (W, 7-4), Bethel (L, 4-8), Bethel (W, 2-1), Wooster (L, 2-12)  John Hopkins (L, 13-16), Augustana (W, 4-2), Edgewood (W, 10-5), Edgewood (L, 5-14), Vassar (W, 7-3), Vassar (L, 3-13)
Next: Oshkosh 4/9 

La Crosse: 10-5; Anderson (W, 11-1), Anderson (W, 24-1), Rutgers-Camden (L, 4-16), SUNY Cortland (L, 3-4), Ripon (W, 18-0), Ripon (W, 15-5), Rowan (W, 8-3), Rowan (L, 1-3), Benedictine (L, 1-12), William Paterson (W, 15-9), St Marys (W, 9-2), St Marys (W, 8-1), St Scholastica (W, 14-4), St Scholastica (W, 5-4), St Scholastica (L, 8-12)
Next: Platteville 4/9

Oshkosh: 4-8; North Park (L, 1-4), Concordia-Chicago (L, 1-4), Buena Vista (L, 3-12), Webster (L, 3-4), St Scholastica (L, 2-3), Eastern Connecticut (L, 5-7), Allegheny (W, 7-3), Salve Regina (W, 20-3), Salve Regina (W, 10-9), St Thomas (L, 4-5), Southern Maine (L, 4-7), Concordia-Wisconsin (W, 17-5)
Next: Concordia - Stout 4/9

Stevens Point:6-8; U Mass Dartmouth (W, 5-2), Rutgers-Camden (L, 4-5), Rutgers-Camden (L, 0-10), Wheaton (L, 4-5), Union (W, 7-6), St Thomas (L, 9-10), Washington & Jefferson (W, 12-1), Southern Maine (L, 2-5), SUNY-Oswego (L, 2-5), St Joesph's (L, 4-16), St Norbert (W, 3-0), St Norbert (L, 0-2), Ripon (W, 8-4), Ripon (W, 8-2)
Next: WHITEWATER 4/9

WHITEWATER: 11-0; Anderson (W, 8-2), Framington State (W, 4-1), St Olaf (W, 16-0), St Scholastica (W, 3-1), St Scholastica (W, 9-2), Eastern Connecticut State (W, 4-3), Southern Maine (W, 2-0), St Thomas (W, 11-0), Castleton (W, 2-1), Ripon (W, 10-1),  Ripon (W, 14-1)
Next: Stevens Point 4/9

WIAC:  45-29 .608





 
 

 




Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on April 08, 2016, 08:46:46 PM
Quote from: AppletonRocks on April 07, 2016, 05:47:34 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2016, 01:09:17 PM
I think we'll just keep playing if that's ok.   ;D   

Humpty Dumpty sat on the wall, something like that...... ;)

Humpty Dumpty lacked pitching depth.  :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on April 09, 2016, 04:59:03 PM
UWSP hands UWW their first loss, 8-3.  Kowalke picks up the win, Bachar is the hard luck loser and I don't think Point got an earned run off him.  Cole Erickson was dominant in relief of Kowalke.  Ben Gerber and Ray Greco lead the offense with 3 and 2 hits respectively.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on April 09, 2016, 05:26:18 PM
Miller vs Morgan for game 2 between UWSP and UWW.  Watson not pitching today makes me think he's injured again.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 09, 2016, 05:40:42 PM
Heard watson is done for year he will be 30 and still n pitching for pointers.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 09, 2016, 05:51:06 PM
Is doornik also injured.  Game 2 has 10 run rule written all over it.  Morgan is dominant and point is starting off playing poorly
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 09, 2016, 06:44:31 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 09, 2016, 05:51:06 PM
Is doornik also injured.  Game 2 has 10 run rule written all over it. Morgan is dominant and point is starting off playing poorly
Sure....  Tied 1-1 after three innings.  ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on April 09, 2016, 06:56:50 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 09, 2016, 05:51:06 PM
Is doornik also injured.  Game 2 has 10 run rule written all over it.  Morgan is dominant and point is starting off playing poorly

Has been injured, but pinch hit in game two today.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 09, 2016, 07:00:03 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on April 09, 2016, 05:26:18 PM
Miller vs Morgan for game 2 between UWSP and UWW.  Watson not pitching today makes me think he's injured again.
Quick hook for Miller....  Spaeth comes in to start the second inning, and had two "clean" innings before Whitewater strung together two hits and a walk after two were out in the 4th inning to take a 3-1 lead.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on April 09, 2016, 07:08:55 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 09, 2016, 07:00:03 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on April 09, 2016, 05:26:18 PM
Miller vs Morgan for game 2 between UWSP and UWW.  Watson not pitching today makes me think he's injured again.
Quick hook for Miller....  Spaeth comes in to start the second inning, and had two "clean" innings before Whitewater strung together two hits and a walk after two were out in the 4th inning to take a 3-1 lead.

Alex Thompson now in for Spaeth and gave up a leadoff double in the 5th.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 09, 2016, 07:12:13 PM
I wonder if there was even a thought of starting Erickson game 2 he probably could've gone 5 and was looking good in game 1.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 09, 2016, 07:14:48 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 09, 2016, 07:12:13 PM
I wonder if there was even a thought of starting Erickson game 2 he probably could've gone 5 and was looking good in game 1.
The old "The season is a marathon, not a sprint" comes to mind....  Why would you even think about bringing a kid back after a thirty minute rest in the FIRST conference DH of the season?!?!?!?  ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 09, 2016, 07:17:31 PM
Looks like La Crosse will be out to an early lead in the WIAC race after the first DH's of the season.... 

The Eagles swept a pair from Platteville, both via the "mercy" rule, while UWO and Stout split their DH.  It appears Whitewater and Point are likely to split their DH as well.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 09, 2016, 10:19:29 PM
Well with Watson done and dornick not living up to expectations it looks like point is for sure locked in to 4th or 5th.  Obviously it was huge to beat whitewater once especially Bachar.  Lacrosse and whitewater are just too good and Oshkosh is going to really getter better with each game.  I don't think anyone had said anything but where did Brandon Kranz and bryton guckenburg go I know they each had a year left I was figuring on Kranz being their number 3 batter.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 09, 2016, 11:51:03 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 09, 2016, 10:19:29 PM
Well with Watson done and dornick not living up to expectations it looks like point is for sure locked in to 4th or 5th.  Obviously it was huge to beat whitewater once especially Bachar.  Lacrosse and whitewater are just too good and Oshkosh is going to really getter better with each game.  I don't think anyone had said anything but where did Brandon Kranz and bryton guckenburg go I know they each had a year left I was figuring on Kranz being their number 3 batter.
So Point splits a DH against a previously undefeated Whitewater team, the #2 team in the country AT Whitewater mind you, yet you make it sound like Point was just got mercy-ruled twice like Platteville.

You might want to go back to Kegler's and see if you can find some perspective, as you are obviously lacking it!!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 10, 2016, 12:44:08 PM
Our games with Point are always tough and competitive.  They're not a bad team and you can't throw the ball around like Little League and expect to beat them.   

The WARHAWKS opened the scoring with a run in their first at bat when, with two outs, Dane Burman doubled and Cal Aldridge hit an RBI single.  But Point took the lead for good with four runs, three unearned, in the third when they strung two hits, two WARHAWKS throwing errors, a hit batter and a passed ball together.  The WARHAWKS closed the gap to a single run with a pair in the fifth when Daytona Bryden and Steve Chamberlain each hit RBI singles.  Point added an insurance run in the eighth on another WARHAWKS throwing error and finished the scoring with three runs in the ninth.

Hitting: Bryden: 2x3, 1 RBI; Chamberlain: 1x4, 1 RBI; Aldridge: 1x4, 1 RBI; Austin Jones: 2x4, 2B; Burman: 1x4, 1 RS, 2B.
Pitching: Lake Bachar (L, 4-1): 8 IP, 4 H, 5 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 10 K; John Olejniczak: 1 IP, 3 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 2 BB, 1 K.


A Pointer throwing error on Bryden's steal of second advanced him to third and Blake Fleischman singled down the right field line to drive in the first run of the game in the first and that lead stood to the third inning.  Point opened the inning with a single, followed with a sacrifice bunt, got back to back walks and hit a sacrifice fly ato tie the game.  The WARHAWKS got all the runs they would need in the fourth on Dane Burman's 2 RBI double.  Two more WARHAWKS run scored in the fifth on an RBI triple by Cal Aldridge and a sacrifice fly by Trent Diekvoss.  The final WARHAWKS run was scored in the seventh when Justin Kuczynski and Aldridge hit back to back doubles.  After a shaky second inning and some control issues in the third inning Morgan got in a rhythm and faced one batter over the minimum in his final five innings.  He was as sharp as I've ever seen him in that stretch.

Hitting: Aldridge: 3x4, 1 RS, 3 RBI, 2B, 3B; Burman: 2x5, 2 RBI; Fleischman: 2x5, 1 RS, 1 RBI:; Diekvoss: 1 RBI; Chamberlain: 2x5; Kuczynski: 1x3, 1 RS, 2B; Austin Jones: 1x4, 1 RS, 2B.
Pitching: Curtis Morgan (W, 3-1): 8 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 3 BB, 8 K; Heath Renz: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K.

It was a good bounce back win.  After losing the first game this one had to be a W.  Point used six pitchers with five of them only pitching a single inning.  It's damp down here today.  Scattered, intermittent rain is forecast. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on April 10, 2016, 03:07:06 PM
Shocking....I didn't think Whitewater would lose this year based on this message board's recent discussion. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 10, 2016, 05:28:01 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 19, 2016, 09:50:45 AM
It's going to be a long season for point.  The defense is very mediocre and I'd be very concerned about scoring runs also.  Teams know they can pitch around hanke all year.  Did anyone else notice point only has 10 home games this year?  Will anyone even get 5 home runs this year?  As far as Oshkosh is concerned I feel they can bounce back in the wiac now that it appears lacrosse and point will be down.  Is it possible stout or platteville finish second?
Well, with Platteville getting swept twice to go 0-4 over the weekend, I don't think you have to worry about them finishing in second place...  ::)

You can probably forget about Stout finishing in second place either as they are on their way to a 1-3 start trailing UWO 6-0 after three innings.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brian R. Carroll on April 10, 2016, 06:02:45 PM
La Crosse outclassed Platteville in a 4 game sweep. Only today's opener was competitive as the Eagles rode strong pitching to a 6-1 victory. The Eagles appear to be hitting their stride.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 10, 2016, 09:21:36 PM
The WARHAWKS took both ends of today's twin bill with Point by scores of 12-6 and 7-1.  Austin Jones's three run home run put the WARHAWKS on the board in the first inning of game one.  But Point cut the deficit to a single run with single runs in both the second and third innings.  The WARHAWKS matched the Pointers' third inning run with their own when Blake Fleischman hit a solo home run in the bottom of the innings.  Neither team scored in the fourth but the Pointers tied the game with two in the fifth and took a 5-4 lead with a single run in the sixth.   The WARHAWKS blew the game open with seven runs in the seventh inning. Alex Hallenbeck doubled in the first run and a triple by Fleischman drove in another pair.  Dane Burman hit a two run home run, another run scored on an error and the final run scored when Cal Aldridge doubled.  Daytona Bryden led off the eighth with a double and scored the final WARHAWKS run when Steve Chamberlain singled.  The Pointers added a run in the ninth on three singles. 

Hitting: Fleischman: 3x5, 3 RS, 3 RBI, 3B, HR; Austin Jones: 1x3, 2 RS, 3 RBI; Burman: 2x3, 2 RS, 2 RBI, HR; Aldridge: 3x4, 1 RBI 2B, 2B; Hallenbeck: 1x3, 1 RS, 1 RBI, 2B; Bryden: 2x5, 2 RS, 3B.
Pitching: Mike Nompleggi: 4.2 IP, 8 H, 4 R, 3 ER, 2 BB, 2 K; Connor Hurst (W, 2-0): 2.1 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 1 K; Heath Renz: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 K; Riley Gruetzmacher: 1 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 2 K.


The WARHAWKS scored a pair of runs in the second inning of game two.  Singles by Aldridge and Bryden sandwiching a walk loaded the bases with two outs and Fleischman doubled in both runs.  Fleischman drove in another run in the fourth  Three hits strung together in the sixth pushed two more WARHAWKS runs across.  Burman and Chamberlain each had RBIs.  Two Pointer errors coupled with a pair of WARHAWKS hits gave the WARHAWKS their final two runs in the eighth.  Point scored their run in the ninth when they strung back to back two out hits together with three passed balls. 

Hitting: Fleischman: 2x3, 3 RBI, 2B; Chamberlain: 2x5, 2 RBI, 2B; Burman: 1x5, 1 RS, 1 RBI; Bryden: 2x3, 1 RS; Jordan Kuczynski: 2x5, 2B; Aldridge: 1x2, 2 RS; Justin Wegner: 1x4, 2 RS, 2B.
Pitching: Ankur Shah (W, 2-0): 6 IP, 6 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 3 K; Heath Renz: 2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K; Matt Langlie: 1 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 0 K. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 10, 2016, 09:32:35 PM
Just to clarify I've only intended this running post to include out of conference results.


Results to date:

Platteville: 10-5; Elmhurst (L, 9-10), Milwaukee School of Engineering (W, 2.0), Loras (W, 12-1), Northland (W, 15-5), Lasell (W, 13-5), Augustana (L, 5-7), St Lawrence (W, 6-5), SUNY-Purchase (W, 12-2), Western Connecticut State (W, 15-11), Milikin (W, 16-5), Wooster (L, 8-9), Marian (W, 10-0), Marian (L, 4-9), Chicago (L, 1-5), Chicago (W, 13-4)
Next: Lawrence 4/13

Stout: 6-5;  Heidelberg (W, 6-5), Heidelberg (W, 7-4), Bethel (L, 4-8), Bethel (W, 2-1), Wooster (L, 2-12)  John Hopkins (L, 13-16), Augustana (W, 4-2), Edgewood (W, 10-5), Edgewood (L, 5-14), Vassar (W, 7-3), Vassar (L, 3-13)
Next: St Olaf 4/14

La Crosse: 10-5; Anderson (W, 11-1), Anderson (W, 24-1), Rutgers-Camden (L, 4-16), SUNY Cortland (L, 3-4), Ripon (W, 18-0), Ripon (W, 15-5), Rowan (W, 8-3), Rowan (L, 1-3), Benedictine (L, 1-12), William Paterson (W, 15-9), St Marys (W, 9-2), St Marys (W, 8-1), St Scholastica (W, 14-4), St Scholastica (W, 5-4), St Scholastica (L, 8-12)
Next: St Thomas 4/20

Oshkosh: 4-8; North Park (L, 1-4), Concordia-Chicago (L, 1-4), Buena Vista (L, 3-12), Webster (L, 3-4), St Scholastica (L, 2-3), Eastern Connecticut (L, 5-7), Allegheny (W, 7-3), Salve Regina (W, 20-3), Salve Regina (W, 10-9), St Thomas (L, 4-5), Southern Maine (L, 4-7), Concordia-Wisconsin (W, 17-5)
Next: Concordia - Ripon 4/13

Stevens Point:6-8; U Mass Dartmouth (W, 5-2), Rutgers-Camden (L, 4-5), Rutgers-Camden (L, 0-10), Wheaton (L, 4-5), Union (W, 7-6), St Thomas (L, 9-10), Washington & Jefferson (W, 12-1), Southern Maine (L, 2-5), SUNY-Oswego (L, 2-5), St Joesph's (L, 4-16), St Norbert (W, 3-0), St Norbert (L, 0-2), Ripon (W, 8-4), Ripon (W, 8-2)
Next: Marion 4/13

WHITEWATER: 11-0; Anderson (W, 8-2), Framington State (W, 4-1), St Olaf (W, 16-0), St Scholastica (W, 3-1), St Scholastica (W, 9-2), Eastern Connecticut State (W, 4-3), Southern Maine (W, 2-0), St Thomas (W, 11-0), Castleton (W, 2-1), Ripon (W, 10-1),  Ripon (W, 14-1)
Next: Concordia - Chicago 4/13

WIAC:  45-29 .608





 
 

 





Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on April 11, 2016, 02:08:22 PM
Quote from: AppletonRocks on April 10, 2016, 03:07:06 PM
Shocking....I didn't think Whitewater would lose this year based on this message board's recent discussion.

Which posts led you to that conclusion?  I know ShineTime mentioned UW-W and UW-L in the same sentence. But that's hardly interpretable as indicating a potential undefeated season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on April 11, 2016, 03:00:32 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on April 11, 2016, 02:08:22 PM
Quote from: AppletonRocks on April 10, 2016, 03:07:06 PM
Shocking....I didn't think Whitewater would lose this year based on this message board's recent discussion.

Which posts led you to that conclusion?  I know ShineTime mentioned UW-W and UW-L in the same sentence. But that's hardly interpretable as indicating a potential undefeated season.

All that purple haze highlighting in a few hundred posts might have caused me to hallucinate.  ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 11, 2016, 08:15:24 PM
What was purpose of point throwing Ericsson in game one?  Isn't he their number 3 starter?  I know it worked but they didn't even get to use him again.  Would've thought with 5 to 4 lead in game three they would've given him the ball again.  Instead you get minimal innings out of one of your best.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 11, 2016, 08:29:40 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 11, 2016, 08:15:24 PM
What was purpose of point throwing Ericsson in game one?  Isn't he their number 3 starter?  I know it worked but they didn't even get to use him again.  Would've thought with 5 to 4 lead in game three they would've given him the ball again.  Instead you get minimal innings out of one of your best.
The purpose?  Umm..... To give yourself the best chance at getting a win?  Or no??

For a guy that watches a lot of Pointer games, you sure don't seem to have a very good understanding of a season being 40+ games....  Why would you even consider bringing a guy back this early in the season?  And even if it crossed your mind, temperatures were far from ideal to bring a guy back after having thrown four innings less than 24 hours earlier. 

Just because Steiny did it for the now defunct Manawa Spurs doesn't make it the norm!!!  ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 11, 2016, 10:13:54 PM
I understand your thinking but throw him as a starter than game 3.  I would've put him in when they were up 5 to 4 would've been enormous to get split at whitewater.  Would've had 7 days to rest.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 12, 2016, 08:29:28 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 11, 2016, 10:13:54 PM
I understand your thinking but throw him as a starter than game 3.  I would've put him in when they were up 5 to 4 would've been enormous to get split at whitewater.  Would've had 7 days to rest.
You go for it....  I'll take the team that has a coach that is looking to develop some depth in the first part of the season so that when he is forced to throw more than his Top 3/4 guys at the WIAC Tournament/Regionals guys are more "ready."
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 12, 2016, 09:40:00 AM
Eagan and Kohlwey make this week's D3.baseball team of the week

http://www.d3baseball.com/awards/team-of-the-week/2016/week09
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 14, 2016, 04:04:19 PM
Kohlwey selected D3baseball's Hitter of the Week......http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2016/04/potw-14April2016
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 14, 2016, 04:10:00 PM
Just to clarify I've only intended this running post to include out of conference results.


Results to date:

Platteville: 11-5; Elmhurst (L, 9-10), Milwaukee School of Engineering (W, 2.0), Loras (W, 12-1), Northland (W, 15-5), Lasell (W, 13-5), Augustana (L, 5-7), St Lawrence (W, 6-5), SUNY-Purchase (W, 12-2), Western Connecticut State (W, 15-11), Milikin (W, 16-5), Wooster (L, 8-9), Marian (W, 10-0), Marian (L, 4-9), Chicago (L, 1-5), Chicago (W, 13-4), Edgewood (W, 15-2)
Next: Lawrence 4/26

Stout: 7-5;  Heidelberg (W, 6-5), Heidelberg (W, 7-4), Bethel (L, 4-8), Bethel (W, 2-1), Wooster (L, 2-12)  John Hopkins (L, 13-16), Augustana (W, 4-2), Edgewood (W, 10-5), Edgewood (L, 5-14), Vassar (W, 7-3), Vassar (L, 3-13), St Olaf (W, 15-10)
Next: St Thomas 4/19

La Crosse: 10-5; Anderson (W, 11-1), Anderson (W, 24-1), Rutgers-Camden (L, 4-16), SUNY Cortland (L, 3-4), Ripon (W, 18-0), Ripon (W, 15-5), Rowan (W, 8-3), Rowan (L, 1-3), Benedictine (L, 1-12), William Paterson (W, 15-9), St Marys (W, 9-2), St Marys (W, 8-1), St Scholastica (W, 14-4), St Scholastica (W, 5-4), St Scholastica (L, 8-12)
Next: St Thomas 4/20

Oshkosh: 5-8-1; North Park (L, 1-4), Concordia-Chicago (L, 1-4), Buena Vista (L, 3-12), Webster (L, 3-4), St Scholastica (L, 2-3), Eastern Connecticut (L, 5-7), Allegheny (W, 7-3), Salve Regina (W, 20-3), Salve Regina (W, 10-9), St Thomas (L, 4-5), Southern Maine (L, 4-7), Concordia-Wisconsin (W, 17-5), Ripon (W, 13-1), St Mary (T, 11-11)
Next: Ripon 4/19

Stevens Point:6-8; U Mass Dartmouth (W, 5-2), Rutgers-Camden (L, 4-5), Rutgers-Camden (L, 0-10), Wheaton (L, 4-5), Union (W, 7-6), St Thomas (L, 9-10), Washington & Jefferson (W, 12-1), Southern Maine (L, 2-5), SUNY-Oswego (L, 2-5), St Joesph's (L, 4-16), St Norbert (W, 3-0), St Norbert (L, 0-2), Ripon (W, 8-4), Ripon (W, 8-2)
Next: Marion 4/20

WHITEWATER: 11-2; Anderson (W, 8-2), Framington State (W, 4-1), St Olaf (W, 16-0), St Scholastica (W, 3-1), St Scholastica (W, 9-2), Eastern Connecticut State (W, 4-3), Southern Maine (W, 2-0), St Thomas (W, 11-0), Castleton (W, 2-1), Ripon (W, 10-1),  Ripon (W, 14-1), Concordia-Chicago (L, 5-8), Concordia-Chicago (L, 5-6)
Next: Milwaukee School of Engineering 4/20

WIAC:  47-31-1  .594
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 14, 2016, 04:46:34 PM
The WARHAWKS dropped both ends of yesterday's double header with Concordia - Chicago by scores of 8-5 and 6-5.   

In the first game CU-C went ahead with a run scored on a pair of hits in the first inning and added five more in the third when they pounded out six hits, three of which were doubles, and took advantage of a WARHAWKS throwing error.  The WARHAWKS got on the board in the fourth on Daytona Bryden's RBI single.  Three more WARHAWKS runs scored in the fifth when Jordan Kuczynski's double drove in a pair and Cal Aldridge singled cutting the deficit to 6-4.  The deficit was further reduced to a single run after Dane Burman's sacrifice fly in the sixth.  However the Cougars would add a run in the eighth and another in the ninth.  The WARHAWKS stranded twelve runners in the game.

Hitting: Aldridge: 4x5, 1 RS, 1 RBI; Bryden: 2x4, 1 RBI; Kuczynski: 2x4, 1 RS, 2 RBI, 2B; Burman: 1 RBI
Pitching: Connor Hurst (L, 2-1): 3 IP, 8 H, 6 R, 5 ER, 0 BB, 1 K; Heath Renz: 6 IP, 8 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 0 BB, 5 K.

CU-C also got the first score in game two with an unearned run in the fourth and added four more in the fifth on four hits, an error and a steal of home to go up 5-0.  The WARHAWKS responded with three runs of their own in the bottom of the fifth when Dylan Bersch (1) and Blake Fleischman (2) both singled.  Concordia went up 6-3 with a run in the eighth.  The WARHAWKS rallied in the ninth with a pair on RBI singles from Austin Jones and Burman but came up short when the tying run was stranded in scoring position.

Hitting: Fleischman: 1x5, 2 RBI; Bersch: 1x3, 2 RS, 1 RBI; Jones: 1x5, 1 RBI;  Kuczynski: 1X5, 1 RS; Bryden: 1x2, 1 RS; Justin Wegner: 1 RS
Pitching: Lake Bachar (L, 4-2): 4 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 6 K; John Olejniczak: 1 IP,  4 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 1 BB, 1 K; Matt Langlie: 3 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 0 K; Sam Heilenbach: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 0 K
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 16, 2016, 07:01:32 PM
I tried to warn everyone before the season and no one believed it.  Point may not finish 500 .
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on April 16, 2016, 07:08:26 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 16, 2016, 07:01:32 PM
I tried to warn everyone before the season and no one believed it.  Point may not finish 500 .

You try and warn everyone every season about Point struggling...congratulations, you're right 1 out of 15 times.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 16, 2016, 07:24:26 PM
I wonder if the high school pissing match between bloom and jirschele had anything to do with point struggling this year.  I've been told by many people that bloom really screwed him good.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 17, 2016, 06:39:22 PM
The WARHAWKS took both ends of yesterday's twin bill in Platteville by scores of 14-10 (10 innings) and 7-4. 

A single followed by a hit batter set the stage for Austin Jones' RBI double staking the WARHAWKS to a 1-0 lead in the first inning.  That lead doubled in the second when Dane Burman led the inning off with a solo home run.  The Pioneers got on the board with a single run in the fifth and then went ahead 3-2 with a two run home run in the sixth.  The Pioneers increased their lead to 4-2 with a run in the seventh.  The WARHAWKS regained the lead 6-4 in the eighth when Pioneers allowed a single,  walked three hitters and committed a throwing error allowing four unearned runs to score.  Jordan Kuczynski homered in the ninth increasing the lead to 7-4 but the Pioneers took advantage of struggling WARHAWKS relievers, sloppy defense and a double to tie the game sending it to the tenth.  In the tenth the WARHAWKS plated seven runs on three hits, three Pioneer errors and Cal Aldridge's two run home run.  Blake Fleischman (3) and Dlyan Bersch (1) also had RBIs in the inning.  Platteville came up with three runs in their half of the inning.

Hitting: Fleischman: 3x6, 2 RS, 3 RBI, 2B; Jones: 3x6, 1 RS, 1 RBI, 2B; Aaron Markley: 3x4, 1 RS; Kuczynski: 2x4, 2 RS, 1 RBI, HR; Aldridge: 2x5, 1 RS, 2 RBI, HR; Burman: 1x4, 3 RS, 1 RBI, HR; Helbing: 1x4, 1 RS; Bersch: 1 RS, 1 RBI.
Pitching: Morgan: 7 IP, 7 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 2 BB, 5 K; Renz (W, 2-0): 2 IP, 3 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 3 BB, 4 K; Olejniczak: 0.2 IP, 3 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 1 K; Jones: 0.1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K.


Trent Diekvoss's two out solo home run in the second gave the WARHAWKS an early 1-0 lead which increased to 4-0 in the third when Cal Aldridge's shot cleared the fence and drove in three.  Platteville plated three unearned runs in the fourth to pull within a run but the WARHAWKS matched those runs with three of their own in the fifth when Aldridge, 1 RBI, and Diekvoss, 2 RBI, hit back to back doubles with two outs.  Platteville added the final run in the sixth. 

Hitting: Diekvoss: 2x3, 1 RS, 3 RBI, 2B, HR; Aldridge: 1x3, 2 RS, 3 RBI, HR;  Helbing: 1x4, 1 RS, 1 RBI, 2B; Kuczynski: 1x5, 2 RS.
Pitching: Shah (W, 3-0): 7 IP, 6 H, 4 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 6 K;  Heilenbach (Sv 2): 2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 2 K.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 17, 2016, 07:43:35 PM
Looks like La Crosse will have a two game lead over Whitewater after two weeks of WIAC play....

The "battle" looks like it will be between Stout, UWO and Point for final two spots in the WIAC tournament, as all three teams sit at 3-5 after two (of five) "rounds" of WIAC play.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on April 17, 2016, 08:10:19 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 16, 2016, 07:24:26 PM
I wonder if the high school pissing match between bloom and jirschele had anything to do with point struggling this year.  I've been told by many people that bloom really screwed him good.

Fill us in  :o :o :o
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 17, 2016, 08:31:23 PM
This is very old news but apparently bloom wanted half of the money from whatever baseball function he and jirschele ran in Wausau even though he left the beginning of June and did nowhere near half of the work.  Worst part is bloom wiped out everything on the computer including important contact numbers for high school and college coaches meaning jirschele was stuck having to spend a ton of time getting that info.  Things did not end on good terms and I just assumed everyone knows this.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 17, 2016, 08:59:19 PM
Now that we are nearly halfway through the WIAC schedule, what are people's thought on the "front-runners" for the WIAC Pitcher and Position Player of the Year?

Would seem to think La Crosse has a pretty good chance of pulling off the "double" (like Point did last year) with Caleb Boushley and Taylor Kohlwey putting up monster numbers so far this year. 

La Crosse's Justin Anderson would likely be in the mix as if Kohlwey starts to fall back to the pack and Whitewater's Lake Bachar will likely be in the running for the Pitcher award as well.

Who else deserves to be in the conversation?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 18, 2016, 09:39:12 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 17, 2016, 08:31:23 PM
Worst part is bloom wiped out everything on the computer including important contact numbers for high school and college coaches meaning jirschele was stuck having to spend a ton of time getting that info.  Things did not end on good terms and I just assumed everyone knows this.

That is a  sticky situation, but those WERE Bloom's contacts. He was under no obligation to give them away (knowing he was still likely going to use those same contacts to grab recruits for WashU. He just eliminated  a competitor in the head-to-head recruiting process... this is a business. No different than a salesman taking his Roladex (remember those?) with him when he left to work for a competitor.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 18, 2016, 10:41:23 AM
Jirschele was an assistant at Point for four years.  Wouldn't he have become familiar with those contacts? 


The WARHAWKS split yesterday's double header with Platteville winning game one 8-3 before blowing a two run ninth inning lead and losing 4-3 in twelve innings in the second game. 

In the first game the WARHAWKS went ahead 2-0 with a pair of unearned runs in the their first at bat.  Trent Diekvoss's double in the fourth added a third run and the WARHAWKS added three more in the sixth on an error, Trent Borgardt's single and a base loaded walk making the score 6-0.  Platteville cut the deficit in half with three runs in the seventh on a single and a pair of extra base hits.  The WARHAWKS added a pair of runs in the eighth on an error and Cal Aldridge's RBI single. 

Hitting: Diekvoss: 2x5, 1 RS, 1 RBI, 2B; Borgardt: 2x4, 1 RS, 1 RBI; Aldridge: 1x3, 1 RBI, 2B; Helbing: 1x4, 1 RS, 1 RBI; A. Jones: 1x4, 2 RS; Kuczynski: 1 RS, 1 RBI.
Pitching: Bachar (W, 5-2): 7 IP, 9 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 8 K; Gruetzmacher: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 K; A. Jones: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 K.

Austin Jones hit solo home runs in the fourth and the sixth innings and Aaron Markley added an RBI double in the sixth staking the WARHAWKS to a 3-0 lead.  Platteville got a single run in the eighth and added two more in the ninth after two were out to tie the game 3-3.  Platteville stranded runners in scoring position in both the tenth and the eleventh before pushing the winning run across in the twelve when the lead off hitter doubled and a pair of singles followed.

Hitting: A. Jones: 2x5, 2 RS, 2 RBI, 2 HR; Markley: 2x3, 1 RBI, 2B; Aldridge: 2x6; Diekvoss: 1 RS.
Pitching: Nompleggi: 8 IP, 10 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 2 K; Langlie: 1 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 1 K; Micheal Kaska (L, 0-1): 1 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 0 K.

Austin Jones pitched a couple of innings this weekend for first time in over a year.  Jones missed last year and has been limited to playing outfield prior to this weekend.  It'll take some time before he's ready to join the rotation but if and when he does it will be a boost to the WARHAWKS pitching staff.  Even in relief he could help the team quite a bit closing this year.



Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 18, 2016, 11:10:28 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 18, 2016, 10:41:23 AM
Austin Jones pitched a couple of innings this weekend for first time in over a year.  Jones missed last year and has been limited to playing outfield prior to this weekend.  It'll take some time before he's ready to join the rotation but if and when he does it will be a boost to the WARHAWKS pitching staff.  Even in relief he could help the team quite a bit closing this year.
This is EXACTLY the role I would use him in!!!! 

I know it might be a little bit more difficult from a warm-up standpoint since he is typically in the game, but to have that guy you can go to to get the last 3-6 outs is so valuable.  Just look at what Sadowske did for La Crosse last season in that very same role!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 18, 2016, 12:06:40 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 17, 2016, 08:59:19 PM
Now that we are nearly halfway through the WIAC schedule, what are people's thought on the "front-runners" for the WIAC Pitcher and Position Player of the Year?

Would seem to think La Crosse has a pretty good chance of pulling off the "double" (like Point did last year) with Caleb Boushley and Taylor Kohlwey putting up monster numbers so far this year. 

La Crosse's Justin Anderson would likely be in the mix as if Kohlwey starts to fall back to the pack and Whitewater's Lake Bachar will likely be in the running for the Pitcher award as well.

Who else deserves to be in the conversation?


As it stands today Kohlwey would seem to have a strangle hold on position player of the year.  He's hitting 50 points higher than Anderson, leading the league in hits, runs scored, doubles, triples, total bases, slugging %, on base % and he's 2nd in runs batted in and home runs.   He's fielding .949 which is good enough.  The only WARHAWK who may be in the discussion, assuming the rest of the year plays out like the it has so far, is Cal Aldridge.  Aldridge is solid fielder and hitting over .500 but 1) he's a freshman and 2) even I have to admit he isn't Taylor Kohlwey.  Buryznski is playing again but he's missed a bunch of games.  He's a legit candidate under normal circumstances but missing so many games may take him out of the discussion.  If so, too bad, he can play. 

Bachar and Boushey are probably the two finalists for the pitching award.  Right now I'm trying to figure out whether Ankur Shah is for real.  I have to admit I wasn't overly impressed last year but he's a better pitcher this year (at least so far).  He's worked his way into the starting rotation and his last two starts have been solid so he should be seeing more innings the rest of the season.  His numbers solid to date.  I'm interested in seeing how that plays out.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on April 18, 2016, 10:09:57 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 18, 2016, 09:39:12 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 17, 2016, 08:31:23 PM
Worst part is bloom wiped out everything on the computer including important contact numbers for high school and college coaches meaning jirschele was stuck having to spend a ton of time getting that info.  Things did not end on good terms and I just assumed everyone knows this.

That is a  sticky situation, but those WERE Bloom's contacts. He was under no obligation to give them away (knowing he was still likely going to use those same contacts to grab recruits for WashU. He just eliminated  a competitor in the head-to-head recruiting process... this is a business. No different than a salesman taking his Roladex (remember those?) with him when he left to work for a competitor.

Did he take a check while the list was built--if so, they belong to the UW-SP program as well.   >:(
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 18, 2016, 10:45:23 PM
Let's just hope none of the freshman that are playing a ton transfer.  I think jirschele needs to be given at least three years before judgment can be made.  It's safe to say he got bloomed but in the end hopefully he gets the last laugh.  Lacrosse I believe is going to take the conference and may finish 3 games ahead of whitewater.  I don't see anyway that point takes even one against lacrosse
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on April 18, 2016, 11:02:07 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 18, 2016, 10:45:23 PM
Let's just hope none of the freshman that are playing a ton transfer. I think jirschele needs to be given at least three years before judgment can be made.  It's safe to say he got bloomed but in the end hopefully he gets the last laugh.  Lacrosse I believe is going to take the conference and may finish 3 games ahead of whitewater.  I don't see anyway that point takes even one against lacrosse

Follow your own advice
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 19, 2016, 10:10:51 AM
This is going to be fun.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 19, 2016, 11:05:56 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 19, 2016, 10:10:51 AM
This is going to be fun.
Don't forget your popcorn!!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 19, 2016, 03:18:19 PM
What happened to some of the recruits that were supposed to be coming to point?  Wasn't there a pitcher from down by madison area that was rather dominating is he at point or did he quit?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on April 19, 2016, 04:04:08 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 19, 2016, 03:18:19 PM
What happened to some of the recruits that were supposed to be coming to point?  Wasn't there a pitcher from down by madison area that was rather dominating is he at point or did he quit?

If you're talking about Zach Miller from Greendale...which is a suburb of Milwaukee....he's still at Point and redshirting this season...So is 1st Team All State Sam Sabinash, also from Greendale.  Point has a ton of talent returning next season.  Erickson and Thomka looked awesome against a decent Stout team over the wkd.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 19, 2016, 04:07:58 PM
That's certainly a positive I think losing watson is probably the thing that hurt point the most.  I was hoping he'd come in and do close to what mitch Beau did last year. Kowalke is solid but is probably a better number 2 or 3 guy.  Either way there will be a ton of guys gaining experience so hopefully this is just one bad year and be back in contention next year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 19, 2016, 08:04:57 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on April 19, 2016, 04:04:08 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 19, 2016, 03:18:19 PM
What happened to some of the recruits that were supposed to be coming to point?  Wasn't there a pitcher from down by madison area that was rather dominating is he at point or did he quit?

If you're talking about Zach Miller from Greendale...which is a suburb of Milwaukee....he's still at Point and redshirting this season...So is 1st Team All State Sam Sabinash, also from Greendale.  Point has a ton of talent returning next season.  Erickson and Thomka looked awesome against a decent Stout team over the wkd.
I thought they got rid of redshirting at the D3 level??  ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on April 20, 2016, 04:19:21 PM
Servais throws complete game shutout as Point takes Game 1 against Marian 5-0.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 20, 2016, 11:40:25 PM
How about point finishes season winning 14 straight?  That would put them at 25 and 13.  Would they get pool c?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 21, 2016, 09:35:41 AM

Just to clarify I've only intended this running post to include out of conference results.


Results to date:

Platteville: 12-5; Elmhurst (L, 9-10), Milwaukee School of Engineering (W, 2.0), Loras (W, 12-1), Northland (W, 15-5), Lasell (W, 13-5), Augustana (L, 5-7), St Lawrence (W, 6-5), SUNY-Purchase (W, 12-2), Western Connecticut State (W, 15-11), Milikin (W, 16-5), Wooster (L, 8-9), Marian (W, 10-0), Marian (L, 4-9), Chicago (L, 1-5), Chicago (W, 13-4), Edgewood (W, 15-2), Cornell (W, 6-5)
Next: Lawrence 4/26

Stout: 7-8;  Heidelberg (W, 6-5), Heidelberg (W, 7-4), Bethel (L, 4-8), Bethel (W, 2-1), Wooster (L, 2-12)  John Hopkins (L, 13-16), Augustana (W, 4-2), Edgewood (W, 10-5), Edgewood (L, 5-14), Vassar (W, 7-3), Vassar (L, 3-13), St Olaf (W, 15-10), St Thomas (L, 0-2), St Thomas (L, 1-6), Northland (L, 2-4), Northland (W, 6-0)
Next: Superior 5/4

La Crosse: 11-6; Anderson (W, 11-1), Anderson (W, 24-1), Rutgers-Camden (L, 4-16), SUNY Cortland (L, 3-4), Ripon (W, 18-0), Ripon (W, 15-5), Rowan (W, 8-3), Rowan (L, 1-3), Benedictine (L, 1-12), William Paterson (W, 15-9), St Marys (W, 9-2), St Marys (W, 8-1), St Scholastica (W, 14-4), St Scholastica (W, 5-4), St Scholastica (L, 8-12), St Thomas (W, 14-6), St Thomas (L, 4-8)
Next: St Olaf 4/28

Oshkosh: 7-8-1; North Park (L, 1-4), Concordia-Chicago (L, 1-4), Buena Vista (L, 3-12), Webster (L, 3-4), St Scholastica (L, 2-3), Eastern Connecticut (L, 5-7), Allegheny (W, 7-3), Salve Regina (W, 20-3), Salve Regina (W, 10-9), St Thomas (L, 4-5), Southern Maine (L, 4-7), Concordia-Wisconsin (W, 17-5), Ripon (W, 13-1), St Mary (T, 11-11), Ripon (W, 8-1), Lawrence (W, 16-3)
Next: Carroll 4/26

Stevens Point:8-8; U Mass Dartmouth (W, 5-2), Rutgers-Camden (L, 4-5), Rutgers-Camden (L, 0-10), Wheaton (L, 4-5), Union (W, 7-6), St Thomas (L, 9-10), Washington & Jefferson (W, 12-1), Southern Maine (L, 2-5), SUNY-Oswego (L, 2-5), St Joesph's (L, 4-16), St Norbert (W, 3-0), St Norbert (L, 0-2), Ripon (W, 8-4), Ripon (W, 8-2), Marion (W, 5-0), Marion (W, 12-0)
Next: St Scholastica  4/26

WHITEWATER: 12-2; Anderson (W, 8-2), Framington State (W, 4-1), St Olaf (W, 16-0), St Scholastica (W, 3-1), St Scholastica (W, 9-2), Eastern Connecticut State (W, 4-3), Southern Maine (W, 2-0), St Thomas (W, 11-0), Castleton (W, 2-1), Ripon (W, 10-1),  Ripon (W, 14-1), Concordia-Chicago (L, 5-8), Concordia-Chicago (L, 5-6), Milwaukee School of Engineering (W, 4-1)
Next: Carthage 4/26

WIAC:  58-37-1 


Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 21, 2016, 11:06:34 AM
Nine WARHAWKS pitchers, each pitching a single inning, threw a four hitter and struck out six to defeat Milwaukee School of Engineering 4-1.  The first three innings were scoreless before MSOE drew first blood in the fourth with a solo shot that cleared the left field fence.  The WARHAWKS matched that run in the fifth on Blake Fleischman's RBI single and took a 2-1 lead in the sixth when Justin Wegner singled to left.  Trent Diekvoss added a pair of insurance runs in the seventh with a two out single. 

Hitting: Diekvoss: 1X3, 1RS, 2 RBI; Fleischman: 2x4, 1 RS, 1 RBI; Wegner: 1x3, 1 RBI; Wary: 1x3, 1 RS, 2B; Markley: 1x3, 1 RS.
Pitching: Morgan, Shah, Heilenbach, Olejniczak, Gruetzmacher, Georgakas (W, 1-0), Renz, Hurst and Jones (SV 2): 1 IP.  Morgan: BB, K; Shah: BB, 2 K; Olejniczak: 1 H, 1 R, 1 ER; Gruetzmacher: 1 H; Renz: 1 H, BB, K.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on April 22, 2016, 11:00:46 AM
Really nice story on Bachar.

http://www.wkow.com/story/31788702/2016/04/21/whitewaters-bachar-thrives-with-second-chance-in-baseball (http://www.wkow.com/story/31788702/2016/04/21/whitewaters-bachar-thrives-with-second-chance-in-baseball)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 23, 2016, 05:43:16 PM
Messenger is solid still wishing he was a pointer.  He held his own against one of top teams in the nation.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on April 23, 2016, 10:48:30 PM
Ray Greco threw an inning for Point today??
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 23, 2016, 11:00:20 PM
Hopefully point can find a way to go 4 and 4 vs Oshkosh and lacrosse. Anything better than that should at least get them in conference tournament.  With the way erickson is pitching I would like points chances of upsetting whitewater or la crosse in game one of tourney.  Is there any chance of Watson throwing this year again?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on April 23, 2016, 11:51:15 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 23, 2016, 11:00:20 PM
Hopefully point can find a way to go 4 and 4 vs Oshkosh and lacrosse. Anything better than that should at least get them in conference tournament.  With the way erickson is pitching I would like points chances of upsetting whitewater or la crosse in game one of tourney.  Is there any chance of Watson throwing this year again?

Watson is resting, not shut down for the year...there is still a chance of a return this year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on April 24, 2016, 08:11:39 AM
I see Oshkosh defeated the vaunted Warhawks yesterday. Didn't think that was possible.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 24, 2016, 09:18:18 AM
It's because they had messenger throwing he can bear anyone.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 24, 2016, 11:50:41 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 24, 2016, 09:18:18 AM
It's because they had messenger throwing he can bear anyone.
For a guy that "can beat anyone" you'd sure think he would have better numbers than his 13-12 career record with an ERA just under 4.00...

If people only listened to you, you'd think the guy belonged in the same company as Jarrod Washburn, Jordan Zimmerman, Greg Reinhard, and Andy Elskamp, when in fact Messenger has ONE Honorable Mention All WIAC selection in his first three years in the WIAC.

Give it a rest already!!!!  The guy has been an "average" starter in his 3+ years at Stevens Point and Oshkosh and has never even been the "ace" on his own team.

The last thing I will say is this....  Had Messenger "drew" Morgan or Nompleggi, I would venture to guess the four runs he gave up would have resulted in a loss, and not a UWO victory.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 24, 2016, 05:02:11 PM
After UWO's second win over Whitewater in as many days, La Crosse has now opened up a four game lead on the Warhawks for the WIAC regular season championship....

Even if Whitewater was to take three out of four next weekend against La Crosse, it might not be enough to catch the Eagles....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on April 24, 2016, 06:57:19 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 24, 2016, 05:02:11 PM
After UWO's second win over Whitewater in as many days, La Crosse has now opened up a four game lead on the Warhawks for the WIAC regular season championship....

Even if Whitewater was to take three out of four next weekend against La Crosse, it might not be enough to catch the Eagles....

It happened again? WOW !
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on April 24, 2016, 10:42:41 PM
What's the deal with UWO's Sabel?  Have been expecting big things from him the past few years after an impressive showing in the Northwoods League two years back.  Thought that him, Jewell, and Messenger could've created a three headed monster for the Titans.  Just hasn't worked out.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on April 25, 2016, 05:24:24 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 25, 2016, 11:16:57 AM
Daytona Bryden led off game three with a solo home run and went up 3-0 when Cal Aldridge singled and Steve Chamberlain doubled in runs in the third.  The WARHAWKS lead increased to 4-0 with a run scoring on a fielder's choice in the fourth.  The Titan's cut the lead to 4-3 with a three run home run in the sixth.  None of the three runs should have been scored but the base umpire's failure to call an obvious runner interference on what should have been an inning ending double play extended the inning resulting in the home run.  Though it probably didn't matter in the long run as the Titan's added three runs in both the seventh and the ninth.
Care to elaborate on the play in question?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 25, 2016, 08:40:37 PM
Top of the sixth.  Titans on first and second.  Hitter grounds to short who tosses to second for the force.  When the second baseman turns to throw he has to jump to avoid the runner who comes in high with his leg up and slides past the base. In the process he clips the second baseman who is unable to make a throw to first.  The slide was illegal and by rule both runners are out.  That would have ended the inning.  Instead it leaves runners on first and third and the batter crushed the ball over the left field fence. 

But the umpire didn't make the call so I suppose that makes the slide legal.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on April 26, 2016, 09:56:45 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 25, 2016, 08:40:37 PM
Top of the sixth.  Titans on first and second.  Hitter grounds to short who tosses to second for the force.  When the second baseman turns to throw he has to jump to avoid the runner who comes in high with his leg up and slides past the base. In the process he clips the second baseman who is unable to make a throw to first.  The slide was illegal and by rule both runners are out.  That would have ended the inning.  Instead it leaves runners on first and third and the batter crushed the ball over the left field fence. 

But the umpire didn't make the call so I suppose that makes the slide legal.   

It was certainly one of the more unfortunate calls this season. You never know how something like that changes the overall momentum of the game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 26, 2016, 10:51:02 AM
You never know but for clarification it wasn't my intention to suggest it was the reason we lost.  The Titans outplayed us plain and simple.  We missed some opportunities, they didn't when it counted. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on April 26, 2016, 02:22:33 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 25, 2016, 08:40:37 PM
Top of the sixth.  Titans on first and second.  Hitter grounds to short who tosses to second for the force.  When the second baseman turns to throw he has to jump to avoid the runner who comes in high with his leg up and slides past the base. In the process he clips the second baseman who is unable to make a throw to first.  The slide was illegal and by rule both runners are out.  That would have ended the inning.  Instead it leaves runners on first and third and the batter crushed the ball over the left field fence. 

But the umpire didn't make the call so I suppose that makes the slide legal.   
FWIW,
1. The runner can slide high so long as the sliding runner's foot is below covering fielder's leg.
2. Unless the NCAA has adopted the new MLB rule, the runner can slide past the bag so long as the runner is not sliding outside of the width of the bag.

The only illegal slide I saw last weekend was that of a Warhawk runner on Saturday who slid well oustide the width of the bag at second to break up a double play. Also, if MLB rules apply, the Warhawk runner I observed failed to maintain control of second base. Again though, I don't know if MLB rules apply.

On a different note, it was nice to UWO's Gorsuch pick up a win in relief back in his hometown of Whitewater. Surprised that Vodenlich couldn't reign him in.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 26, 2016, 02:42:06 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 26, 2016, 02:22:33 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 25, 2016, 08:40:37 PM
Top of the sixth.  Titans on first and second.  Hitter grounds to short who tosses to second for the force.  When the second baseman turns to throw he has to jump to avoid the runner who comes in high with his leg up and slides past the base. In the process he clips the second baseman who is unable to make a throw to first.  The slide was illegal and by rule both runners are out.  That would have ended the inning.  Instead it leaves runners on first and third and the batter crushed the ball over the left field fence. 

But the umpire didn't make the call so I suppose that makes the slide legal.   
FWIW,
1. The runner can slide high so long as the sliding runner's foot is below covering fielder's leg.
2. Unless the NCAA has adopted the new MLB rule, the runner can slide past the bag so long as the runner is not sliding outside of the width of the bag.

The only illegal slide I saw last weekend was that of a Warhawk runner on Saturday who slid well oustide the width of the bag at second to break up a double play. Also, if MLB rules apply, the Warhawk runner I observed failed to maintain control of second base. Again though, I don't know if MLB rules apply.

On a different note, it was nice to UWO's Gorsuch pick up a win in relief back in his hometown of Whitewater. Surprised that Vodenlich couldn't reign him in.
Try again.... 

A runner has not been allowed to slide past the base since at least 19??.  MLB is just "catching up" to the rules that the NCAA has had in place since then.  American Legion baseball adopted the rule in the mid-1990's, and they took/copied the NCAA rule.

I can still remember having a Midwest Regional end on that very call!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 26, 2016, 02:49:36 PM
Page 75 of the NCAA Baseball rule book tells you all you need to know. The NCAA rule has always been more restrictive than the MLB rule, until the MLB rules changes this season.

A runner may slide past the base as long as he stays in the extended base line.

If the runner's raised leg makes contact with the fielder higher than his knee, it should be interference.

http://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/BA16.pdf

Force-Play-Slide Rule
SECTION 4. The intent of the force-play-slide rule is to ensure the safety of
all players. This is a safety and an interference rule. Whether the defense could
have completed the double play has no bearing on the applicability of this rule. This rule pertains to a force-play situation at any base, regardless of the number
of outs.
a. On any force play, the runner must slide on the ground before the base
and in a direct line between the two bases. It is permissible for the slider's
momentum to carry him through the base in the baseline extended (see
diagram).
Exception—A runner need not slide directly into a base as long as the
runner slides or runs in a direction away from the fielder to avoid making
contact or altering the play of the fielder. Interference shall not be called.
1) "On the ground" means either a head-first slide or a slide with one leg
and buttock on the ground before the base.
2) "Directly into a base" means the runner's entire body (feet, legs, trunk
and arms) must stay in a straight line between the bases.
b. Contact with a fielder is legal and interference shall not be called if the
runner makes a legal slide directly to the base and in the baseline extended
(see diagram).
A.R. If contact occurs on top of the base as a result of a "pop-up" slide, this contact
is legal.
c. Actions by a runner are illegal and interference shall be called if:
1) The runner slides or runs out of the base line in the direction of the
fielder and alters the play of a fielder (with or without contact);
2) The runner uses a rolling or cross-body slide and either makes contact
with or alters the play of a fielder;
3) The runner's raised leg makes contact higher than the fielder's knee when
in a standing position;
4) The runner slashes or kicks the fielder with either leg; or
RULE 8 / Base Running 77
5) The runner illegally slides toward or contacts the fielder even if the fielder
makes no attempt to throw to complete a play.
PENALTY for 1-5—(1) With less than two outs, the batter-runner, as well
as the interfering runner, shall be declared out and no other
runner(s) shall advance.
2) With two outs, the interfering runner shall be declared out and no other
runner(s) shall advance.
3) If the runner's slide or collision is flagrant, the runner shall be ejected
from the contest.
A.R. If the bases are loaded with no outs, a double-play attempt is made, and
interference is called, all other runners must return to their original bases.
Note: On a force play, with a two-man umpiring system, if the plate umpire does
not have a potential play at the plate, he should move toward the base to observe the
runner going into second or third base. In this situation, the base umpire must follow
the throw and may not see the true effect of the lead runner's action.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 26, 2016, 03:06:37 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on April 26, 2016, 02:49:36 PM
Page 75 of the NCAA Baseball rule book tells you all you need to know. The NCAA rule has always been more restrictive than the MLB rule, until the MLB rules changes this season.

A runner may slide past the base as long as he stays in the extended base line.
Now it bothers me even more after all these years!!!!!!!  >:(
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 26, 2016, 03:09:35 PM
BTW-Thanks for listing the rules Just Bill!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on April 26, 2016, 05:08:15 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 26, 2016, 10:51:02 AM
You never know but for clarification it wasn't my intention to suggest it was the reason we lost.  The Titans outplayed us plain and simple.  We missed some opportunities, they didn't when it counted.

I checked in with Tom Lechnir and he said you would be hearing from his lawyers once he is back as the coach of the Titans...... ;D ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 26, 2016, 05:13:04 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 26, 2016, 03:06:37 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on April 26, 2016, 02:49:36 PM
Page 75 of the NCAA Baseball rule book tells you all you need to know. The NCAA rule has always been more restrictive than the MLB rule, until the MLB rules changes this season.

A runner may slide past the base as long as he stays in the extended base line.
Now it bothers me even more after all these years!!!!!!!  >:(

Essentially MLB adopted most of the more restrictive rules that NCAA has been using for years.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 26, 2016, 08:35:02 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on April 26, 2016, 05:13:04 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 26, 2016, 03:06:37 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on April 26, 2016, 02:49:36 PM
Page 75 of the NCAA Baseball rule book tells you all you need to know. The NCAA rule has always been more restrictive than the MLB rule, until the MLB rules changes this season.

A runner may slide past the base as long as he stays in the extended base line.
Now it bothers me even more after all these years!!!!!!!  >:(

Essentially MLB adopted most of the more restrictive rules that NCAA has been using for years.
So safe to assume NCAA doesn't have the rule that MLB does that "runner must hold the base" that we have seen called a couple of times already this season?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 26, 2016, 08:40:18 PM
Just to clarify I've only intended this running post to include out of conference results.


Results to date:

Platteville: 14-5; Elmhurst (L, 9-10), Milwaukee School of Engineering (W, 2.0), Loras (W, 12-1), Northland (W, 15-5), Lasell (W, 13-5), Augustana (L, 5-7), St Lawrence (W, 6-5), SUNY-Purchase (W, 12-2), Western Connecticut State (W, 15-11), Milikin (W, 16-5), Wooster (L, 8-9), Marian (W, 10-0), Marian (L, 4-9), Chicago (L, 1-5), Chicago (W, 13-4), Edgewood (W, 15-2), Cornell (W, 6-5), Lawrence (W, 5-1), Lawrence (W, 10-7)
Next: Edgewood 4/27

Stout: 7-8;  Heidelberg (W, 6-5), Heidelberg (W, 7-4), Bethel (L, 4-8), Bethel (W, 2-1), Wooster (L, 2-12)  John Hopkins (L, 13-16), Augustana (W, 4-2), Edgewood (W, 10-5), Edgewood (L, 5-14), Vassar (W, 7-3), Vassar (L, 3-13), St Olaf (W, 15-10), St Thomas (L, 0-2), St Thomas (L, 1-6), Northland (L, 2-4), Northland (W, 6-0)
Next: Superior 5/4

La Crosse: 11-6; Anderson (W, 11-1), Anderson (W, 24-1), Rutgers-Camden (L, 4-16), SUNY Cortland (L, 3-4), Ripon (W, 18-0), Ripon (W, 15-5), Rowan (W, 8-3), Rowan (L, 1-3), Benedictine (L, 1-12), William Paterson (W, 15-9), St Marys (W, 9-2), St Marys (W, 8-1), St Scholastica (W, 14-4), St Scholastica (W, 5-4), St Scholastica (L, 8-12), St Thomas (W, 14-6), St Thomas (L, 4-8)
Next: St Olaf 4/28

Oshkosh: 8-8-1; North Park (L, 1-4), Concordia-Chicago (L, 1-4), Buena Vista (L, 3-12), Webster (L, 3-4), St Scholastica (L, 2-3), Eastern Connecticut (L, 5-7), Allegheny (W, 7-3), Salve Regina (W, 20-3), Salve Regina (W, 10-9), St Thomas (L, 4-5), Southern Maine (L, 4-7), Concordia-Wisconsin (W, 17-5), Ripon (W, 13-1), St Mary (T, 11-11), Ripon (W, 8-1), Lawrence (W, 16-3), Carroll (W, 2-1)
Next: Carroll 5/4

Stevens Point:9-9; U Mass Dartmouth (W, 5-2), Rutgers-Camden (L, 4-5), Rutgers-Camden (L, 0-10), Wheaton (L, 4-5), Union (W, 7-6), St Thomas (L, 9-10), Washington & Jefferson (W, 12-1), Southern Maine (L, 2-5), SUNY-Oswego (L, 2-5), St Joesph's (L, 4-16), St Norbert (W, 3-0), St Norbert (L, 0-2), Ripon (W, 8-4), Ripon (W, 8-2), Marion (W, 5-0), Marion (W, 12-0), St Scholastica (W, 3-1), St Scholastica (L, 1-12)
Next: Benedictine 5/3

WHITEWATER: 13-2; Anderson (W, 8-2), Framington State (W, 4-1), St Olaf (W, 16-0), St Scholastica (W, 3-1), St Scholastica (W, 9-2), Eastern Connecticut State (W, 4-3), Southern Maine (W, 2-0), St Thomas (W, 11-0), Castleton (W, 2-1), Ripon (W, 10-1),  Ripon (W, 14-1), Concordia-Chicago (L, 5-8), Concordia-Chicago (L, 5-6), Milwaukee School of Engineering (W, 4-1), Carthage (W, 2-1)
Next: Concordia-Wi 5/4

WIAC:  63-38-1  .620
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 26, 2016, 08:56:08 PM
Solid pitching came through for the second game in a row carrying the WARHAWKS to a 2-1 win over Carthage.  The WARHAWKS offense was held to four hits.  Sophomore Heath Rentz (W, 3-0) pitched seven innings giving up a single run on five Carthage hits while striking out three and freshman James Greorgakas pitched a pair of hit less innings  earning his first save of the season.  The WARHAWKS got both runs in their first at bat on a passed ball and Dane Burman's sacrifice fly.  Carthage scored their run in the seventh. 

Hitting: Trent Diekvoss: 1x3, 2B;  Burman: SF, 1 RBI
Pitching: Rentz: 7 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 3 K; Greorgakas: 2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 K.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on April 26, 2016, 10:55:34 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 26, 2016, 02:42:06 PMTry again.... 

A runner has not been allowed to slide past the base since at least 19??.  MLB is just "catching up" to the rules that the NCAA has had in place since then.  American Legion baseball adopted the rule in the mid-1990's, and they took/copied the NCAA rule.

I can still remember having a Midwest Regional end on that very call!!!
Not sure about this claim about the American Legion.  Appleton hosted the American Legion Midwest Regional in 2009 and force plays at second were a point of emphasis.  At that point in time the rule was:

Past the bag and within the bag = legal
Outside the bag, regardless of whether or not the runner slid past the bag = illegal/automatic double play
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 26, 2016, 11:30:29 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 26, 2016, 10:55:34 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 26, 2016, 02:42:06 PMTry again.... 

A runner has not been allowed to slide past the base since at least 19??.  MLB is just "catching up" to the rules that the NCAA has had in place since then.  American Legion baseball adopted the rule in the mid-1990's, and they took/copied the NCAA rule.

I can still remember having a Midwest Regional end on that very call!!!
Not sure about this claim about the American Legion.  Appleton hosted the American Legion Midwest Regional in 2009 and force plays at second were a point of emphasis.  At that point in time the rule was:

Past the bag and within the bag = legal
Outside the bag, regardless of whether or not the runner slid past the bag = illegal/automatic double play
I would defer to our resident Legion Baseball expert if he stops in here anytime soon....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on April 27, 2016, 11:54:55 AM
Titan's picked up a win last night with a 2-1 victory against Carroll. 

Interesting note from the game - Matt Sabel picked up another save for the Titans.  Perhaps Tomasiewicz will be using Sabel as the team's closer down the stretch.  IIRC, Sabel did most of his work in the Northwoods League out of the bullpen and was quite effective in that role competing against a lot of Division I talent.  With's Sabel's skill set (hard throwing lefty, low arm slot, and good movement) he could be untouchable in the late game.  This could be the move that puts the Titans over the top and back into the postseason for time since 2009.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 27, 2016, 12:16:58 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 27, 2016, 11:54:55 AM
Titan's picked up a win last night with a 2-1 victory against Carroll. 

Interesting note from the game - Matt Sabel picked up another save for the Titans.  Perhaps Tomasiewicz will be using Sabel as the team's closer down the stretch.  IIRC, Sabel did most of his work in the Northwoods League out of the bullpen and was quite effective in that role competing against a lot of Division I talent.  With's Sabel's skill set (hard throwing lefty, low arm slot, and good movement) he could be untouchable in the late game.  This could be the move that puts the Titans over the top and back into the postseason for time since 2009.
Safe to assume you are talking about an NCAA Regional appearance, since UWO was a participant in the WIAC Postseason Tournament just last season?

With that said, your 2009 year would be incorrect.  It was actually 2008, where UWO lost to Carthage and St. Thomas at E.J. Schneider Field in Oshkosh.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on April 27, 2016, 12:39:12 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 27, 2016, 12:16:58 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 27, 2016, 11:54:55 AM
Titan's picked up a win last night with a 2-1 victory against Carroll. 

Interesting note from the game - Matt Sabel picked up another save for the Titans.  Perhaps Tomasiewicz will be using Sabel as the team's closer down the stretch.  IIRC, Sabel did most of his work in the Northwoods League out of the bullpen and was quite effective in that role competing against a lot of Division I talent.  With's Sabel's skill set (hard throwing lefty, low arm slot, and good movement) he could be untouchable in the late game.  This could be the move that puts the Titans over the top and back into the postseason for time since 2009.
Safe to assume you are talking about an NCAA Regional appearance, since UWO was a participant in the WIAC Postseason Tournament just last season?

With that said, your 2009 year would be incorrect.  It was actually 2008, where UWO lost to Carthage and St. Thomas at E.J. Schneider Field in Oshkosh.
Correct. I was looking at the wrong row on the archive. 2009 was the shared championship team that didn't get in.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 29, 2016, 02:52:10 PM
Has anyone else heard that luke watson is back this weekend I sure hope it's true and that he's healthy. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on April 29, 2016, 10:58:26 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 29, 2016, 02:52:10 PM
Has anyone else heard that luke watson is back this weekend I sure hope it's true and that he's healthy.

I didn't hear that.  :-\
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 30, 2016, 03:11:12 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 17, 2016, 08:59:19 PM
Now that we are nearly halfway through the WIAC schedule, what are people's thought on the "front-runners" for the WIAC Pitcher and Position Player of the Year?

Would seem to think La Crosse has a pretty good chance of pulling off the "double" (like Point did last year) with Caleb Boushley and Taylor Kohlwey putting up monster numbers so far this year. 

La Crosse's Justin Anderson would likely be in the mix as if Kohlwey starts to fall back to the pack and Whitewater's Lake Bachar will likely be in the running for the Pitcher award as well.

Who else deserves to be in the conversation?
After another complete game victory by Boushley, this time 6-2 over Whitewater, I think you can pretty much hand the WIAC Pitcher of the Year award to him....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 30, 2016, 04:38:05 PM
Agreed
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 30, 2016, 05:21:41 PM
With a pair of wins today, La Crosse has already clinched a share of the regular season WIAC Championship, as they hold a six game lead over both Whitewater and Stevens Point with six games remaining....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on April 30, 2016, 09:01:34 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 29, 2016, 02:52:10 PM
Has anyone else heard that luke watson is back this weekend I sure hope it's true and that he's healthy.
Overheard a conversation between Watson's father and some Titan fans. His career is over. Was on a 70 pitch limit coming back to start the year. Threw 110 pitches in a game earlier in the season.

Titans and Pointers split today. Defensive lapses hurt the Titan's chances of taking two today. Messenger looked strong but the defense just wasn't there behind him. Sabel continues to be a force out of the bullpen for Oshkosh. UWO's chances of getting an at large are slim to none at this point (especially with today's loss) but if they jump out to some early leads in the conference tourney I like their chances with Sabel shutting the door.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 30, 2016, 10:52:40 PM
The kid is healthy enough to pitch isn't he?  I cannot believe he didn't throw this weekend.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 01, 2016, 03:43:02 PM
At this point in time does anyone see la crosse not finishing top 3 in the nation?  They just thumped Bachar and ten run ruled a very good whitewater team.  I'm excited to see them at point next weekend.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on May 01, 2016, 05:05:00 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 01, 2016, 03:43:02 PM
At this point in time does anyone see la crosse not finishing top 3 in the nation?  They just thumped Bachar and ten run ruled a very good whitewater team.  I'm excited to see them at point next weekend.
Tough to gauge how good they are just because they beat Whitewater.  ;) 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 02, 2016, 11:23:32 AM
As has already been noted the WARHAWKS dropped both ends of Saturday's doubleheader by 6-2 and 6-0 scores.  Committing nine errors in one doubleheader probably isn't going to win you too many games.  In the first game the WARHAWKS stranded two runners in scoring position in their first at bat while the Eagles jumped on top with a pair in their at bat.  Both runs were unearned courtesy of two WARHAWKS errors.  Three WARHAWKS hits including an RBI single by Austin Jones paired with a sacrifice fly by Aaron Markley tied the game 2-2 in the fourth.  However the Eagles put four on the board in the sixth and held the WARHAWKS to a pair of singles the rest of the way. 

Hitting: Fleischman: 2x4; Burman: 1x3, 1 RS; A. Jones: 1x4, 1 RBI; Markley: SF, 1 RBI.
Pitching: Nompleggi (L, 2-1): 6 IP, 4 H, 6 R, 3 ER, 2 BB, 5 K; Rentz: 2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 0 K.

Notes: Kohlwey: 33 game hit streak, program record career runs scored (162); Cordova: 22 game hit streak.


The WARHAWKS defense may have looked shaky in the first game but it collapsed in the second committing a season high six errors resulting in four of six Eagle runs being unearned.   Of course when you don't score at all two runs are more than enough to beat you. The Eagles scored an unearned run in the first, an earned and unearned run in the second, an earned run in the seventh and a pair of unearned runs in the eighth.  The WARHAWKS stranded runners in scoring position in four innings and left a total of 10 runners on base in the contest. 

Hitting: Wary: 2x4; Chamberlain: 2x4; A. Jones: 2x4; Cal Aldridge: 2x3; Markley: 1x3, 2B.
Pitching: Morgan (L, 4-1): 2.1 IP, 3 H, 3 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 0 K; Hurst: 5.2 IP, 5 H, 3 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 1 K.

Notes: Kohlwey extends to 34; Cordova's streak snapped at 22.   


Game one on Sunday got ugly right away as the Eagles answered the WARHAWKS single run in the first (Fleischman RBI single) with three of their own and then added five in the second inning to take a commanding 8-1 lead.  The Eagles then added single runs in the fifth, sixth and seventh ending the game via the run rule.  Though it didn't matter much the WARHAWKS ran their weekend error total to 12 with three more in game three.   The Eagles had 14 hits in the game and held the WARHAWKS to just 4 after the first inning. 

Hitting: Wary: 1x3, 1 RS; Fleischman: 1X1, 1 RBI.
Pitching: Bachar (L, 5-4): 1.1 IP, 7 H, 7 R, 7 ER, 2 BB, 3 K; Olejniczak: 1.2 IP, 0 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 0 K; Gruetzmacher: 1.1 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 2 K; Georgakas: 1.2 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 2 K; Heilenbach: 0.1, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 0 K.

Notes: Kohlwey: hit streak extended to 35, career runs to 165.  WARHAWKS held to 3 total runs in first three contests.


Proving conclusively that there is a god and that he is benevolent the WARHAWKS returned the run rule favor in game four playing errorless ball and putting the game away early with a seven run second inning.  Cal Aldridge opened the scoring with a pair of RBIs on a single up the middle.  Matt Wary and Steve Chamberlain each added an RBI single and Austin Jones's double drove in a pair.  Justin Wegner's two run home run in the third extended the lead to 9-0.  The Eagles cut into the deficit with a pair of runs in the fifth but the WARHAWKS matched those and added one more with RBI hits from Jordan Kuczynski, Matt Wary and Aaron Markley in the eighth making the final 12-2. 

Hitting: Aldridge: 3x4, 2 RS, 2 RBI; Wary: 2x3, 2 RS, 1 RBI, 2B; Markley: 2x4, 1 RS, 1 RBI; Wegner: 1x2, 1 RS, 2 RBI, HR;  Chamberlain: 1x3, 1 RS, 1 RBI; Kuczynski: 1x4, 1 RS, 1 RBI;  A. Jones: 1x5, 1 RS, 2 RBI, 2B;  Burman: 1x4, 1 RS.
Pitching: Shah (W, 4-1): 7 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 0 BB, 2 K; A. Jones: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 2 K. 

Notes: Kohlwey extends hit streak to 36 games.  8 of 9 WARHAWK starters had a hit 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 02, 2016, 12:59:11 PM
Quote from: AppletonRocks on May 01, 2016, 05:05:00 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 01, 2016, 03:43:02 PM
At this point in time does anyone see la crosse not finishing top 3 in the nation?  They just thumped Bachar and ten run ruled a very good whitewater team.  I'm excited to see them at point next weekend.
Tough to gauge how good they are just because they beat Whitewater.  ;) 


On this date in 1908 the original version of "Take Me Out To The Ballgame" was published.  The original had two verses.  Today we just sing the chorus.  Interestingly the authors had never attended a baseball game prior to writing the song. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 03, 2016, 10:40:17 PM
Impressive showing today for point vs benedictine looks like they came to hit today.  Looks like benedictine is having rough year as is point but it's a good sign when point makes the long trip and takes both knowing the games are essentially meaningless.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on May 05, 2016, 01:05:06 PM
How will the tie breaker for conference seeding work if UWSP and UWO have matching records at the end of the conference schedule?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 05, 2016, 01:07:26 PM


Results to date:

Platteville: 14-6; Elmhurst (L, 9-10), Milwaukee School of Engineering (W, 2.0), Loras (W, 12-1), Northland (W, 15-5), Lasell (W, 13-5), Augustana (L, 5-7), St Lawrence (W, 6-5), SUNY-Purchase (W, 12-2), Western Connecticut State (W, 15-11), Milikin (W, 16-5), Wooster (L, 8-9), Marian (W, 10-0), Marian (L, 4-9), Chicago (L, 1-5), Chicago (W, 13-4), Edgewood (W, 15-2), Cornell (W, 6-5), Lawrence (W, 5-1), Lawrence (W, 10-7), Edgewood (L, 7-10)


Stout: 9-8;  Heidelberg (W, 6-5), Heidelberg (W, 7-4), Bethel (L, 4-8), Bethel (W, 2-1), Wooster (L, 2-12)  John Hopkins (L, 13-16), Augustana (W, 4-2), Edgewood (W, 10-5), Edgewood (L, 5-14), Vassar (W, 7-3), Vassar (L, 3-13), St Olaf (W, 15-10), St Thomas (L, 0-2), St Thomas (L, 1-6), Northland (L, 2-4), Northland (W, 6-0), Superior (W, 9-4), Superior (W, 4-1)
Next: Macalester 5/9

La Crosse: 13-6; Anderson (W, 11-1), Anderson (W, 24-1), Rutgers-Camden (L, 4-16), SUNY Cortland (L, 3-4), Ripon (W, 18-0), Ripon (W, 15-5), Rowan (W, 8-3), Rowan (L, 1-3), Benedictine (L, 1-12), William Paterson (W, 15-9), St Marys (W, 9-2), St Marys (W, 8-1), St Scholastica (W, 14-4), St Scholastica (W, 5-4), St Scholastica (L, 8-12), St Thomas (W, 14-6), St Thomas (L, 4-8), St Olaf (W, 7-0), St Olaf (W, 9-4)


Oshkosh: 9-8-1; North Park (L, 1-4), Concordia-Chicago (L, 1-4), Buena Vista (L, 3-12), Webster (L, 3-4), St Scholastica (L, 2-3), Eastern Connecticut (L, 5-7), Allegheny (W, 7-3), Salve Regina (W, 20-3), Salve Regina (W, 10-9), St Thomas (L, 4-5), Southern Maine (L, 4-7), Concordia-Wisconsin (W, 17-5), Ripon (W, 13-1), St Mary (T, 11-11), Ripon (W, 8-1), Lawrence (W, 16-3), Carroll (W, 2-1), Carroll (W, 10-8)


Stevens Point:11-9; U Mass Dartmouth (W, 5-2), Rutgers-Camden (L, 4-5), Rutgers-Camden (L, 0-10), Wheaton (L, 4-5), Union (W, 7-6), St Thomas (L, 9-10), Washington & Jefferson (W, 12-1), Southern Maine (L, 2-5), SUNY-Oswego (L, 2-5), St Joesph's (L, 4-16), St Norbert (W, 3-0), St Norbert (L, 0-2), Ripon (W, 8-4), Ripon (W, 8-2), Marion (W, 5-0), Marion (W, 12-0), St Scholastica (W, 3-1), St Scholastica (L, 1-12), Benedictine (W, 12-10), Benedictine (W, 9-1)


WHITEWATER: 13-4; Anderson (W, 8-2), Framington State (W, 4-1), St Olaf (W, 16-0), St Scholastica (W, 3-1), St Scholastica (W, 9-2), Eastern Connecticut State (W, 4-3), Southern Maine (W, 2-0), St Thomas (W, 11-0), Castleton (W, 2-1), Ripon (W, 10-1),  Ripon (W, 14-1), Concordia-Chicago (L, 5-8), Concordia-Chicago (L, 5-6), Milwaukee School of Engineering (W, 4-1), Carthage (W, 2-1), Concordia-Wi (L, 0-8), Concordia-Wi (L, 3-4)
Next: St Norbert 5/5

WIAC:  70-41-1  .630

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 05, 2016, 01:08:31 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on May 05, 2016, 01:05:06 PM
How will the tie breaker for conference seeding work if UWSP and UWO have matching records at the end of the conference schedule?

Here's how the seeding works....
http://www.wiacsports.com/sports/2016/4/5/BB_0405165141.aspx?path=baseball
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 05, 2016, 02:50:12 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 05, 2016, 01:08:31 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on May 05, 2016, 01:05:06 PM
How will the tie breaker for conference seeding work if UWSP and UWO have matching records at the end of the conference schedule?

Here's how the seeding works....
http://www.wiacsports.com/sports/2016/4/5/BB_0405165141.aspx?path=baseball

So, like this...

1. Head to head - OSH and SP are both 2-2
2. Record vs. LC - OSH is 0-4, so if Point manages to beat LC even once they will have the tiebreaker advantage
If not,
3. Record vs. WW - OSH is 2-2, SP is 1-3, so OSH would win the tiebreak

Three-way tie...
1. Head to head - WW 5-3, OSH 4-4, SP 3-5, so that one is pretty easy.

WW also holds the two-way tiebreak over both SP (3-1 head-to-head) and OSH (1-3 vs. LC)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 06, 2016, 12:01:28 AM
I highly doubt point will win a game against la Crosse the way the Eagles are playing.  Best shot will be if Erickson can pitch to his pitential.  Would be awesome if point could get a split I'd rather face whitewater first round than going against boushley
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 07, 2016, 08:51:17 AM
Looks like Oshkosh wanted lacrosse first round of wiac tournament.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 07, 2016, 10:26:21 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 07, 2016, 08:51:17 AM
Looks like Oshkosh wanted lacrosse first round of wiac tournament.
Platteville wins two more today, and UWO won't have to worry about La Crosse....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 07, 2016, 10:28:32 AM
BW-
Six games for Whitewater this week, and not a single game report?!?!  You still bowling?  ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 07, 2016, 02:53:09 PM
Hopefully point can hang on they are up 7-2in game 1.  Will whitewater go with Morgan game 1 of conference tournament?  Should point throw Cole Erickson game 1?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 07, 2016, 07:41:33 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 07, 2016, 10:28:32 AM
BW-
Six games for Whitewater this week, and not a single game report?!?!  You still bowling?  ;D

Sorry, I've been really busy, fell behind and just didn't try to catch up.  Thank god we no longer bowl. 

WARHAWKS win all four against Stout 6-5, 13-4, 3-0 and 7-1.  Shah didn't have his best stuff but was good enough in the first game Friday.  Rentz threw for the second day in a row winning Friday's second game which featured a WARHAWKS triple play involving the outfield.  Morgan pitched a complete game, four hit shutout today.  Hurst threw well in game two.  Bachar went three to close it.  Eight games in four days has been a challenge and it started poorly going 1-3 against Concordia-Wi and St Norbert so finishing it with a sweep was important to give us some momentum gong into the conference tourney. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on May 07, 2016, 11:05:10 PM
After a lackluster performance Friday, the Titans got their one win that they needed (plus another). Wasn't a save situation but Tomasiewicz went to Sabel to seal the deal. Will be an interesting conference tournament as usual. I want to see what happens if the Titans can jump out to a lead against UW-L and get the ball in Sabel's hands. If UW-O can win the first one I wouldn't be surprised to see them win the tournament.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 07, 2016, 11:49:58 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on May 07, 2016, 11:05:10 PM
After a lackluster performance Friday, the Titans got their one win that they needed (plus another). Wasn't a save situation but Tomasiewicz went to Sabel to seal the deal. Will be an interesting conference tournament as usual. I want to see what happens if the Titans can jump out to a lead against UW-L and get the ball in Sabel's hands. If UW-O can win the first one I wouldn't be surprised to see them win the tournament.
Even if UWO gets a lead and gets the ball to Sabel, he'll have to pitch better than he did against the Eagles a few weeks ago, as he nearly gave up as many hits (four) as he recorded outs (five.)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 08, 2016, 12:59:35 PM
Point has to throw Erickson game one he's the best chance they have of beating whitewater.  Would be nice to see Oshkosh beat la Crosse but boushley pitching seems to be an automatic w. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on May 13, 2016, 11:27:40 AM
Oshkosh against La Crosse has been moved to 4 pm, Stevens Point against Whitewater has been moved to 7 pm.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 13, 2016, 06:21:02 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on May 07, 2016, 11:05:10 PM
After a lackluster performance Friday, the Titans got their one win that they needed (plus another). Wasn't a save situation but Tomasiewicz went to Sabel to seal the deal. Will be an interesting conference tournament as usual. I want to see what happens if the Titans can jump out to a lead against UW-L and get the ball in Sabel's hands. If UW-O can win the first one I wouldn't be surprised to see them win the tournament.
Exact opposite as Cordova/Kohlwey combine to give UWL a 1-0 lead over ShineTime All American Messenger in the first inning....

UWL has pounded out 10 hits in the first four innings to take a 6-0 lead....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on May 13, 2016, 08:23:42 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 13, 2016, 06:21:02 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on May 07, 2016, 11:05:10 PM
After a lackluster performance Friday, the Titans got their one win that they needed (plus another). Wasn't a save situation but Tomasiewicz went to Sabel to seal the deal. Will be an interesting conference tournament as usual. I want to see what happens if the Titans can jump out to a lead against UW-L and get the ball in Sabel's hands. If UW-O can win the first one I wouldn't be surprised to see them win the tournament.
Exact opposite as Cordova/Kohlwey combine to give UWL a 1-0 lead over ShineTime All American Messenger in the first inning....

UWL has pounded out 10 hits in the first four innings to take a 6-0 lead....

I've been told the conditions are horrible.  Can you confirm that?  :(
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 13, 2016, 08:28:14 PM
No idea on the conditions.....

If they are bad, they apparently didn't affect the La Crosse hitters, as they pound out 17 hits in six innings for a 14-4 "mercy rule" victory over UWO.

Boushley gives up three HR's, but manages to throw yet another CG.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 13, 2016, 11:35:50 PM
Stevens Point takes a 3-1 lead into the bottom of the 8th inning, however Erickson appears to "run out of gas" as Whitewater scores a pair of runs to tie things up 3-3 as the game heads to the 9th inning...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 13, 2016, 11:41:39 PM
Point blew a great performance from Erickson seems whitewater always finds a way against point another one point let get away.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 14, 2016, 12:11:49 AM
Are they filming this through a coke bottle using dial-up?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 14, 2016, 12:17:42 AM
After Point takes a 4-3 lead in the Top of the 10th, Whitewater scores a pair in the bottom half for the walk-off 5-4 victory....

Point will face UWO in an elimination game, while Whitewater will square off with La Crosse for a berth in the championship game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on May 14, 2016, 12:21:57 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 14, 2016, 12:17:42 AM
After Point takes a 4-3 lead in the Top of the 10th, Whitewater scores a pair in the bottom half for the walk-off 5-4 victory....

Point will face UWO in an elimination game, while Whitewater will square off with La Crosse for a berth in the championship game.

Clint Rose can't handle about the easiest double play ball you could get that would have ended the game for a Point win....pretty much the story of their season. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on May 14, 2016, 07:23:04 AM
I'm sure BW will supply the DETAILS but in watching the Hawks and Point, to me it looked like a couple of young teams battling it out.  Promising, but young nonetheless.  Erickson threw a great game until he tired and he kept the UW-W hitters off balance for the most part.  Morgan had to battle constantly because Point was doing a good job of getting on base, but he kept UW-W in the game. The two kids from Germantown at the top of the lineup for UW-W came up big late in the game. It was a good game, but a tough loss for Point, who had this one in their grasp. Have to be impressed with UW-W's will to win, though.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on May 14, 2016, 08:42:31 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 14, 2016, 12:11:49 AM
Are they filming this through a coke bottle using dial-up?

Apparently 2400 baud is the bomb in Lacrosse.  ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 14, 2016, 08:50:43 AM
The story of points season was when their all american pitcher luke watson decided he couldn't pitch any more.  Just an unbelievable situation.  Have to wonder if he could've gotten the save last night.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on May 14, 2016, 12:07:09 PM
Quote from: AppletonRocks on May 14, 2016, 08:42:31 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 14, 2016, 12:11:49 AM
Are they filming this through a coke bottle using dial-up?

Apparently 2400 baud is the bomb in Lacrosse.  ::)

Read this, googled it, laughed.  To save the rest of you a google search, the 2400 baud is a modem. I saw a story where this beast "finally" became affordable, going under $100. And I saw the article was from 1987.  Whether the WIAC or UW-L, either ought to be ashamed for charging for something of such poor quality. And I should be ashamed that I will probably purchase it again this afternoon.  >:(
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 14, 2016, 05:01:23 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on May 07, 2016, 11:05:10 PM
After a lackluster performance Friday, the Titans got their one win that they needed (plus another). Wasn't a save situation but Tomasiewicz went to Sabel to seal the deal. Will be an interesting conference tournament as usual. I want to see what happens if the Titans can jump out to a lead against UW-L and get the ball in Sabel's hands. If UW-O can win the first one I wouldn't be surprised to see them win the tournament.
Well, it it wasn't UWL, but UWO gave the ball to Sabel with a three run lead in the bottom of the 9th inning, and Sabel was able to do just enough to hold the lead as UWO eliminates Stevens Point 8-7.

UWO will await the loser of La Crosse and Whitewater....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on May 14, 2016, 05:17:06 PM
UWSP's offseason priorities need to be finding some pitching depth....and finding a catcher.....watching UWSP run pitchouts at the correct time to still not be able to throw out the runner is frustrating.

Next year it seems that behind Erickson, the rotation is pretty inconsistent.  Need to find some reliable guys behind him.  Most of the lineup is back, not sure if that's a good thing at this point but atleast they have experience together.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 14, 2016, 06:05:03 PM
Erickson is definitely a good building block but there's a lot of work to be done point had guys starting this year that wouldn't have even made the roster of some of the great point teams I do like Greco rose Diedrich  and doornik hanke will be missed but honestly didn't have the best year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 15, 2016, 06:28:09 PM
The weather in LaCrosse wasn't god awful bad but it wasn't good either.  It was wet and cold both Friday and Saturday.  The wind blowing in off the river was nasty.  But everybody played in the same conditions.  I wasn't able to stay for Sunday, thank god, but they mentioned how much better conditions were during the radio broadcast. 

It was the first time I've seen LaCrosse this year.  They are frickin' good.  Reminds me a lot of our 2005 National Champions.  There isn't an easy out in the lineup.  Everyone hits the ball and though they had a couple of errors today they were better in the field than the rest of us.  They do what really good teams do.  You make a mistake, they make you pay. 

I hope we make the post season and get another chance.  But truthfully I think the Eagles have a very good shot at a national championship with this group. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 15, 2016, 10:56:07 PM
I agree with your assessment on la crosse but honestly I thought point could've taken 3 out of 4 from them.  Like u said they do what they need to do and point just couldn't capitalize this year.  Hoping la crosse makes it to Appleton I'd spend the money to see them play boushley and kowley are amazing and both should be first or second team all American.  What's going on with Luke Bachar this year not like he sucks or anything but I had heard before the season that he's going pro.  Guess whitewater is getting an absolute stud from oconto falls next year.  Point will be getting John popham from Waupaca he has shot to play as a freshman.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on May 16, 2016, 09:16:04 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 15, 2016, 10:56:07 PM
I agree with your assessment on la crosse but honestly I thought point could've taken 3 out of 4 from them.  Like u said they do what they need to do and point just couldn't capitalize this year.  Hoping la crosse makes it to Appleton I'd spend the money to see them play boushley and kowley are amazing and both should be first or second team all American.  What's going on with Luke Bachar this year not like he sucks or anything but I had heard before the season that he's going pro.  Guess whitewater is getting an absolute stud from oconto falls next year.  Point will be getting John popham from Waupaca he has shot to play as a freshman.

Bachar seemed like a lock for going pro before the season, I'm sure that he didn't have the season(atleast not yet) that most thought he would...maybe that plays into his decision.

Popham seems like a solid get for UWSP, if you don't mind me asking...how did you find out about his decision??
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 16, 2016, 10:52:57 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on May 16, 2016, 09:16:04 AM
Bachar seemed like a lock for going pro before the season, I'm sure that he didn't have the season(atleast not yet) that most thought he would...maybe that plays into his decision.
When you look at his Game Log from this year, the one thing that jumps out to me is there are some instances where he has been asked to come back on pretty short rest, including making two starts and a relief appearance in seven days at the beginning of May.

After getting a full week off, he looked more like the Bachar from the beginning of the season at the WIAC Tournament.  Will be interesting to see how he throws at Regionals.  If his velocity is still in the low 90's, I'm guessing he will still get drafted.  It will just be a matter of whether said club makes it worth his while to sign.  Being only a sophomore eligibility wise for baseball, he still has a bit of "control" in regards to whether he wants to sign or not.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 16, 2016, 01:46:41 PM
Bachar has looked pretty decent in his past two outings against Stout and Oshkosh though he did have a couple of walks in three innings against Stout.  Against Oshkosh he was throwing the ball harder in the 7-9 innings than the first six.  I know the staff has worked with him to correct some mechanics.  Also, and I think this is significant, they've worked on the mental aspects of pitching.  I don't think it's a coincidence that his problems started at the same time the hype started.  At any rate he been clearly better in his last two outings so I'm hoping he getting back to the Bachar we saw earlier in the season. 

I'm not surprised we were moved and I like it.  I was surprised however that we were the 1 seed.  As recently as Friday I wasn't even certain that we'd make the field.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 16, 2016, 01:57:07 PM
I'm not surprised by the 1 see I think the nation knows that WIAC most years is the best conference in the land.  Whitewater year in and year out is rock solid.  I'm hoping Bachar pitches to potential because with he and Morgan at the top Whitewater could surprise and make a run to Appleton. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 16, 2016, 01:58:57 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on May 16, 2016, 09:16:04 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 15, 2016, 10:56:07 PM
I agree with your assessment on la crosse but honestly I thought point could've taken 3 out of 4 from them.  Like u said they do what they need to do and point just couldn't capitalize this year.  Hoping la crosse makes it to Appleton I'd spend the money to see them play boushley and kowley are amazing and both should be first or second team all American.  What's going on with Luke Bachar this year not like he sucks or anything but I had heard before the season that he's going pro.  Guess whitewater is getting an absolute stud from oconto falls next year.  Point will be getting John popham from Waupaca he has shot to play as a freshman.

Bachar seemed like a lock for going pro before the season, I'm sure that he didn't have the season(atleast not yet) that most thought he would...maybe that plays into his decision.

Popham seems like a solid get for UWSP, if you don't mind me asking...how did you find out about his decision??
Popham attends our church and told me he's going to point. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 16, 2016, 02:24:16 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 16, 2016, 01:46:41 PM
Bachar has looked pretty decent in his past two outings against Stout and Oshkosh though he did have a couple of walks in three innings against Stout.  Against Oshkosh he was throwing the ball harder in the 7-9 innings than the first six.  I know the staff has worked with him to correct some mechanics.  Also, and I think this is significant, they've worked on the mental aspects of pitching.  I don't think it's a coincidence that his problems started at the same time the hype started.  At any rate he been clearly better in his last two outings so I'm hoping he getting back to the Bachar we saw earlier in the season. 

I'm not surprised we were moved and I like it.  I was surprised however that we were the 1 seed.  As recently as Friday I wasn't even certain that we'd make the field.
I'd argue that other than La Crosse getting to play on it's home field, Whitewater actually has a more favorable Regional than La Crosse. 

In my opinion it's always a little "easier" to win a 6-team Regional than an 8-team Regional.  It might not be, but it just "feels" that way...
EDIT: I see it still takes four straight wins for both, so maybe it is more of a "feel" thing and not actually accurate.

Add in the fact that Whitewater has just one other Top 25 team in their bracket (Wartburg) compared to La Crosse's two (Concordia and North Central) and it's easy to see why Whitewater supporters "like" that they were moved.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Westside on May 16, 2016, 02:25:37 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 16, 2016, 01:57:07 PM
I'm not surprised by the 1 see I think the nation knows that WIAC most years is the best conference in the land.  Whitewater year in and year out is rock solid.  I'm hoping Bachar pitches to potential because with he and Morgan at the top Whitewater could surprise and make a run to Appleton.

I am not sure how a #1 seed could make a "surprise" run to Appleton, but I agree they are dangerous. The WIAC is consistently solid, so they will likely make waves this year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 16, 2016, 02:40:44 PM
To quote Augie Schmidt, "There is no such thing as an upset in the post-season. Everyone left is good and can beat any other team."
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 16, 2016, 02:55:56 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 15, 2016, 10:56:07 PM
I agree with your assessment on la crosse but honestly I thought point could've taken 3 out of 4 from them.  Like u said they do what they need to do and point just couldn't capitalize this year.  Hoping la crosse makes it to Appleton I'd spend the money to see them play boushley and kowley are amazing and both should be first or second team all American.  What's going on with Luke Bachar this year not like he sucks or anything but I had heard before the season that he's going pro.  Guess whitewater is getting an absolute stud from oconto falls next year. Point will be getting John popham from Waupaca he has shot to play as a freshman.
Evan Sigmund is the name of the kid from Oconto Falls.....  VERY good HS pitcher, who I am sure will improve while at Whitewater.  He just got beat this weekend by FVL, but I would have no problem saying he is the best pitcher in the Northeastern Conference this year.  SOLID pickup for the Warhawks.  Coach Vodenlich seems to have a nice little "pipeline" running from Oconto Falls to Whitewater (Nompleggi, Gruetzmacher, and now Sigmund.)  Sigmund might just be the best of the bunch as far as talent coming out of high school.

As far as Popham goes, if he is indeed going to Point (have heard he is leaning heavily that way but not decided 100%) it would be interesting if he would return to the OF where he played as an underclassman.  With Greco and Rose both returning, one would think that Point has their middle infield pretty well covered for 2017.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 16, 2016, 04:15:06 PM
Popham is 100% committed to Point and as you said planning on playing outfield.  I feel he has a very good shot at any of the three outfield spots as Point is good but not great out there.  How hard does Sigmund throw?  I am wondering if he's the same kid that pitched against Iola Legion last summer when Iola won 2-0 I wasn't there but a friend of mine said they had a kid throwing 90 consistently but he was a little wild.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 16, 2016, 04:28:40 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 16, 2016, 04:15:06 PM
Popham is 100% committed to Point and as you said planning on playing outfield.  I feel he has a very good shot at any of the three outfield spots as Point is good but not great out there.  How hard does Sigmund throw?  I am wondering if he's the same kid that pitched against Iola Legion last summer when Iola won 2-0 I wasn't there but a friend of mine said they had a kid throwing 90 consistently but he was a little wild.
From my experience, Sigmund doesn't throw 90...  His best pitch is probably his slider.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 16, 2016, 05:39:36 PM
d3baseball.com has the WARHAWKS picked to be the most likely to disappoint.  I can't really argue their logic.  We aren't playing as well as we did earlier in the season obviously.  And I'm the one surprised by the #1 seed.  However the last time D3baseball.com picked us as the most likely to disappoint it was in the 2014 College World Series.  Hard to be disappointed about a national championship.  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 18, 2016, 12:57:31 PM
All Conference Team named:

http://www.wiacsports.com/news/2016/5/17/BB_0517165438.aspx

As expected Kohlwey and Bushley player and pitcher of the year, Schwartz coach of the year.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 18, 2016, 02:27:22 PM
Whitewater with a four spot in the 5th inning to take a 5-1 lead. 

Morgan has been fairly dominant through six innings, which should allow Whitewater to be able to "save" their bullpen.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 18, 2016, 03:06:20 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 18, 2016, 02:27:22 PM
Whitewater with a four spot in the 5th inning to take a 5-1 lead. 

Morgan has been fairly dominant through six innings, which should allow Whitewater to be able to "save" their bullpen.
The 'ole "Kiss of Death" hits Morgan an inning later, as he gives up three runs (zero earned) in the 7th inning and Renz is called in from the bullpen to limit the damage.

Whitewater leads 7-4 heading to the Bottom of the 8th....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 18, 2016, 03:46:47 PM
Renz ends up throwing 2.1 scoreless innings as Whitewater wins 11-4.... 

The Warhawks advance to play the loser of Augustana vs WashU tomorrow at 3:00 pm....

La Crosse holds a 5-0 lead in the bottom of the 5th inning, so it appears the two WIAC teams are on their way to a 2-0 start at Regionals.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 19, 2016, 07:39:47 AM
Ben messenger first team all Wiac.  Kid probably would've won 30 to 40 games had he transferred to whitewater or la crosse.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on May 19, 2016, 08:27:27 AM
Looking at the Central Regional's website is confusing to me. Maybe someone can help. They won their first game yesterday and play in game #5 today at 3:30. There is nothing on the schedule for a "Loser of Game 5". The other two winners from yesterday play at 7 PM. The loser of that game plays Friday at noon.  Did UW-W win their way into an elimination game whereas the other winners from yesterday play on through a loss?

http://www.websterathletics.com/news/2016/5/12/BB_Regional.aspx
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 19, 2016, 08:38:36 AM
Being the #1 seed they are rewarded with playing a loser in game two.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 19, 2016, 08:43:56 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on May 19, 2016, 08:27:27 AM
Looking at the Central Regional's website is confusing to me. Maybe someone can help. They won their first game yesterday and play in game #5 today at 3:30. There is nothing on the schedule for a "Loser of Game 5". The other two winners from yesterday play at 7 PM. The loser of that game plays Friday at noon.  Did UW-W win their way into an elimination game whereas the other winners from yesterday play on through a loss?

http://www.websterathletics.com/news/2016/5/12/BB_Regional.aspx
I might be mistaken, but I believe yhere are typically two different schedules in a 6-team Regional.  Which one is followed after Game #6 depends on whether there are one or two undefeated teams remaining.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 19, 2016, 08:47:24 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 19, 2016, 08:38:36 AM
Being the #1 seed they are rewarded with playing a loser in game two.
How much Social Studies work getting completed yesterday and today?  ;)

You favorite Eastbay user smiling down here in the Fox Valley seeing his Phillies in 1st place in the NL East after their game last night!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 19, 2016, 08:55:46 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 19, 2016, 07:39:47 AM
Ben messenger first team all Wiac.  Kid probably would've won 30 to 40 games had he transferred to whitewater or la crosse.
If a 4.89 ERA is 1st Team All WIAC worthy these days, the quality of pitching in the WIAC has taken a definite nosedive.....

How he was selected over Bachar (2.84 ERA and WIAC leading 81 K's while second in the WIAC in IP) is a head-scratcher....

BTW-Messenger's 4.02 career ERA would tell me 30 to 40 victories is VERY unrealistic......
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 19, 2016, 12:39:41 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 19, 2016, 08:47:24 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 19, 2016, 08:38:36 AM
Being the #1 seed they are rewarded with playing a loser in game two.
How much Social Studies work getting completed yesterday and today?  ;)

You favorite Eastbay user smiling down here in the Fox Valley seeing his Phillies in 1st place in the NL East after their game last night!!!

Little to very little ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 19, 2016, 05:15:55 PM
Whitewater with an early 4-0 lead in the third inning over Augustana.  Bachar with the start for the Warhawks.

La Crosse and St. John's to start shortly, as Troy Kenkel gets the start for the Eagles.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 19, 2016, 05:18:48 PM
Augustana gets a pair in the third on a walk, two hits and a double steal.  4-2 WW after 3. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 19, 2016, 05:37:18 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 19, 2016, 05:18:48 PM
Augustana gets a pair in the third on a walk, two hits and a double steal.  4-2 WW after 3.
Whitewater gets those two right back in the Top of the 4th inning to take a 6-2 lead....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 19, 2016, 10:17:26 PM
Whitewater and la crosse both won big.  As bad as point and Oshkosh finished I still feel their better than 50 percent of teams in regionals.  I feel like it's a very flawed system but not much u can do.  At least point and Oshkosh were competitive in games with la crosse and whitewater.  Some of these teams are god awful.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 20, 2016, 08:27:57 AM
Big games for both Whitewater and La Crosse today!!!!

If each of them can win, they both secure a spot in the Regional Championship game, needing just one more win to advance to the World Series. 

Whitewater has the luxury of sending out a 1st Team All WIAC selection to the mound today in either Shah or Nompleggi.  Pretty nice pitching depth when you can still be sending out All WIAC performers to the mound in your third Regional game.

La Crosse will likely send WIAC Honorable Mention selection Jameson Lavery to the mound.  The thing I am interested in watching is who Concordia decides to start.  They threw their #1 and #2 guys on Wednesday, but both had "short" outings.  It wouldn't surprise me one bit to see them come back with their "ace" Palmer today.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 20, 2016, 01:56:20 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 20, 2016, 08:27:57 AM
Big games for both Whitewater and La Crosse today!!!!

If each of them can win, they both secure a spot in the Regional Championship game, needing just one more win to advance to the World Series. 

Whitewater has the luxury of sending out a 1st Team All WIAC selection to the mound today in either Shah or Nompleggi.  Pretty nice pitching depth when you can still be sending out All WIAC performers to the mound in your third Regional game.

La Crosse will likely send WIAC Honorable Mention selection Jameson Lavery to the mound.  The thing I am interested in watching is who Concordia decides to start.  They threw their #1 and #2 guys on Wednesday, but both had "short" outings.  It wouldn't surprise me one bit to see them come back with their "ace" Palmer today.
Nompleggi gets roughed up early by Rose Hulman, giving up five runs on seven his in just three innings....  Renz on in relief in the 4th inning.

Warhawks trail early, 5-0... Top 5th 

EDIT-Rose Hulman SP Andrew Stull took a 5.21 ERA into today's contest, so a comeback seems extremely possible.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 20, 2016, 02:52:28 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 20, 2016, 01:56:20 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 20, 2016, 08:27:57 AM
Big games for both Whitewater and La Crosse today!!!!

If each of them can win, they both secure a spot in the Regional Championship game, needing just one more win to advance to the World Series. 

Whitewater has the luxury of sending out a 1st Team All WIAC selection to the mound today in either Shah or Nompleggi.  Pretty nice pitching depth when you can still be sending out All WIAC performers to the mound in your third Regional game.

La Crosse will likely send WIAC Honorable Mention selection Jameson Lavery to the mound.  The thing I am interested in watching is who Concordia decides to start.  They threw their #1 and #2 guys on Wednesday, but both had "short" outings.  It wouldn't surprise me one bit to see them come back with their "ace" Palmer today.
Nompleggi gets roughed up early by Rose Hulman, giving up five runs on seven his in just three innings....  Renz on in relief in the 4th inning.

Warhawks trail early, 5-0... Top 5th 

EDIT-Rose Hulman SP Andrew Stull took a 5.21 ERA into today's contest, so a comeback seems extremely possible.
No such comeback....  Whitewater made a couple of outs on the bases in the middle innings, and has never really threatened against Stull who gave up just five hits, a walk, and a HBP while striking out six in arguably his best outing of the season.

Rose Hulman 8
Whitewater 0

FINAL
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 20, 2016, 03:36:30 PM
Whitewater will now play the winner of WashU vs Wartburg at 7:00 pm tonight....

Should the Warhawks win tonight, they would need to beat Rose Hulman twice tomorrow to advance to the World Series.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: emma17 on May 20, 2016, 06:52:12 PM
I was able to watch or listen to the 4th-8th inning. Congrats to RH.
Rose Hulman pitcher was excellent.
Rose Hulman defense was excellent.
Rose Hulman execution was excellent.
UWW batters made pretty good contact- but couldn't hit it where they weren't.
I don't know if it's common, but the UWW batters seemed anxious at the plate.
UWW committed some "beat yourself plays" in a game they couldn't afford to.
Through the 8th, I think all but 3 of Rose Hulman's hits were singles, w multiple infield singles.

All that said, I like UWW's chances a second time around if they can make it back to play Rose Hulman. It just seemed this game featured a lot of "it's not our day" stuff for UWW mixed in w excellent play by RH.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 20, 2016, 07:19:25 PM
Quote from: emma17 on May 20, 2016, 06:52:12 PM
All that said, I like UWW's chances a second time around if they can make it back to play Rose Hulman. It just seemed this game featured a lot of "it's not our day" stuff for UWW mixed in w excellent play by RH.
I actually feel like Whitewater has a legitimate chance to win three straight starting tonight.....  They have a rested Shah tonight, can bring back Morgan on two days rest for Game #1 tomorrow, and then after that, all strategy is out the window in a one game, winner take all situation.  With that said, I feel like Bachar could provide a few good innings on just one day of rest.

Good luck Warhawks!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 20, 2016, 11:46:46 PM
This WW/Wash U game has been a game of missed opportunities.  Bases loaded top of 12th for the Warhawk's, 1 out and they can't push across the go ahead run. Going to be tough assignment for whoever survives this game against RHIT tomorrow.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 21, 2016, 12:28:31 AM
Cal Aldridge wins it in the 14th win a solo home run.  Final 9-8


How does the number one seed end up the home team once in four games?  Other than establishing the first day what the hell is purpose of being the top seed? 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on May 21, 2016, 07:09:31 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 21, 2016, 12:28:31 AM
Cal Aldridge wins it in the 14th win a solo home run.  Final 9-8


How does the number one seed end up the home team once in three games?  Other than establishing the first day what the hell is purpose of being the top seed?

Monster game for the freshman. Two home runs and 6 RBI's. Last night's game was really a game of attrition where both teams showed an outstanding will to win.Very big challenge for the Hawks today to have enough left in the tank to sweep RH. But they've given themselves a shot. Morgan's performance will be vital. Very tough way for Washington University to go out. Beating Wartburg and then going 14 with UW-W all in one day was impressive. No one can accuse them of leaving their studs on the bench. They used their top two starters in relief, including a kid who threw a complete game earlier in the day! These Regionals are brutal on a pitching staff!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 21, 2016, 04:13:58 PM
Looks like the WARHAWKS will make it to game two today.  Curtis Morgan sharp in a complete game shutout allowing 5 hits and striking out 8 with no walks.  11-0 final.  Aldridge with another home run.  Daytona Bryden had four hits and 3 runs scored.  Fleischman, Chamberlain, Wary, Helbing and A. Jones each had a pair of RBIs.

Interestingly the WARHAWKS are once again visiting team for the fourth time in five games and for the second time vs Rose Hulman.  I hope that means the #1 seed gets to be the home team in the final game. 

I'd be pretty surprised if it wasn't Bachar in game 11. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on May 21, 2016, 06:00:26 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 21, 2016, 04:13:58 PM
Looks like the WARHAWKS will make it to game two today.  Curtis Morgan sharp in a complete game shutout allowing 5 hits and striking out 8 with no walks.  11-0 final.  Aldridge with another home run.  Daytona Bryden had four hits and 3 runs scored.  Fleischman, Chamberlain, Wary, Helbing and A. Jones each had a pair of RBIs.

Interestingly the WARHAWKS are once again visiting team for the fourth time in five games and for the second time vs Rose Hulman.  I hope that means the #1 seed gets to be the home team in the final game. 

I'd be pretty surprised if it wasn't Bachar in game 11.

UW-W up 3-0 after 5 innings in championship game.  Visitors again. Isn't it a coin flip each game to determine the home game?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 21, 2016, 06:01:29 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 21, 2016, 04:13:58 PM
Looks like the WARHAWKS will make it to game two today.  Curtis Morgan sharp in a complete game shutout allowing 5 hits and striking out 8 with no walks.  11-0 final.  Aldridge with another home run.  Daytona Bryden had four hits and 3 runs scored.  Fleischman, Chamberlain, Wary, Helbing and A. Jones each had a pair of RBIs.

Interestingly the WARHAWKS are once again visiting team for the fourth time in five games and for the second time vs Rose Hulman.  I hope that means the #1 seed gets to be the home team in the final game. 

I'd be pretty surprised if it wasn't Bachar in game 11.
Nope.....  Visitors again!!

With that said, Bachar has been dominant through five innings as he has struck out six as Whitewater leads 3-0 headed to the Top of the 6th inning.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 21, 2016, 06:05:41 PM
La Crosse looking to beat St. John's today to advance to the College World Series without having to use the "if necessary" game.

Taylor Kohlwey extends his hitting streak to 49 with a first inning single, but St. John's was able to push across a couple of runs off of WIAC Pitcher of the Year Caleb Boushley in the third inning to tie things up.

La Crosse retakes the lead in the third inning and it sits with a 3-2 lead heading to the Top of the 4th inning.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 21, 2016, 06:12:24 PM
Should Whitewater and La Crosse hold on, it would mark the first time the WIAC has placed two teams in the College World Series I believe....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 21, 2016, 07:16:14 PM
WARHAWKS APPLETON BOUND

Lake Bachar CG 6 hits, 8 Ks, 0 BB.  RH scores a pair on a throwing error in the seventh and then leads off the 9th with a solo home run but Bachar settles down to retire the next three in order.  Fleischman hits two home runs and 3 RBI.  Bryden gets three more and ends up 7 for 11 on day.  WARHAWKS get 73 hits in the six games.

There is something wrong when the four seed is the home team three times against the one seed.  I wouldn't expect that the one seed should be the home team every game but never other than the first day.  That's simply absurd. 

Picked the team most likely to disappoint the WARHAWKS once again rise to the occasion.  lol

Thanks to the NCAA for sending us south.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on May 21, 2016, 07:27:08 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 21, 2016, 07:16:14 PM
WARHAWKS APPLETON BOUND

There is something wrong when the four seed is the home team three times against the one seed.  I wouldn't expect that the one seed should be the home team every game but never other than the first day.  That's simply absurd. 

From the 2016 Pre-Championship Manual

Determination oF home teams
For first-round games during regional competition when teams are seeded, the highest-seeded team shall be designated as
the home team. If there are no seeds, the home team shall be determined by a coin flip. In subsequent games, the home
team shall be determined according to a formula applied by the games committee. For the regional or national championship
games, if one of the championship game teams is undefeated, it will be designated as the home team for the first game. The "if
necessary" game will be determined by a coin flip. The home team in game one will call the flip. If both teams have one loss, the
home team will be determined by coin flip. In determining which of two teams in any non-championship game will be the home
team, the games committee or the committee representative shall designate the home team using the following guidelines:
●  The institution that has been the home team the fewer number of times in that particular tournament.
●  If the two teams are equal in this respect but unequal in the number of times they were the visitor, then the team
that has been the visitor more often will be designated the home team.

●  If the two teams are equal in the number of times that they have been home and visitor, the games committee or
the committee representative shall observe the following procedures in the order stated:
-
If the two teams have met previously in that particular tournament, the visitor in the previous game shall
be the home team in the game in question (Exception: In a two-team tournament where both teams have
been the home team twice, the fifth game will be determined by coin flip);
-
The team that was visitor in its preceding game shall be the home team, unless both teams were visitors in
their preceding games; or
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If the above procedures do not resolve the matter, the home team shall be determined by coin flip, with the
higher seed calling the flip.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on May 21, 2016, 07:37:30 PM
Congratulation to U-Dub Dub baseball!

41 Innings in 30 hours and a Central Region Championship! Phenomenal accomplishment!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: emma17 on May 21, 2016, 11:35:11 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on May 21, 2016, 07:37:30 PM
Congratulation to U-Dub Dub baseball!

41 Innings in 30 hours and a Central Region Championship! Phenomenal accomplishment!!

Right on!!
UWW baseball provided a great 4 day baseball treat.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: emma17 on May 21, 2016, 11:40:36 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 20, 2016, 07:19:25 PM
Quote from: emma17 on May 20, 2016, 06:52:12 PM
All that said, I like UWW's chances a second time around if they can make it back to play Rose Hulman. It just seemed this game featured a lot of "it's not our day" stuff for UWW mixed in w excellent play by RH.
I actually feel like Whitewater has a legitimate chance to win three straight starting tonight.....  They have a rested Shah tonight, can bring back Morgan on two days rest for Game #1 tomorrow, and then after that, all strategy is out the window in a one game, winner take all situation.  With that said, I feel like Bachar could provide a few good innings on just one day of rest.

Good luck Warhawks!!!

Excellent prediction Cubs- you called it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 22, 2016, 12:46:19 AM
Quote from: emma17 on May 21, 2016, 11:40:36 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 20, 2016, 07:19:25 PM
Quote from: emma17 on May 20, 2016, 06:52:12 PM
All that said, I like UWW's chances a second time around if they can make it back to play Rose Hulman. It just seemed this game featured a lot of "it's not our day" stuff for UWW mixed in w excellent play by RH.
I actually feel like Whitewater has a legitimate chance to win three straight starting tonight.....  They have a rested Shah tonight, can bring back Morgan on two days rest for Game #1 tomorrow, and then after that, all strategy is out the window in a one game, winner take all situation.  With that said, I feel like Bachar could provide a few good innings on just one day of rest.

Good luck Warhawks!!!

Excellent prediction Cubs- you called it.
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in awhile!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on May 22, 2016, 07:59:50 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on May 21, 2016, 06:00:26 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 21, 2016, 04:13:58 PM
Looks like the WARHAWKS will make it to game two today.  Curtis Morgan sharp in a complete game shutout allowing 5 hits and striking out 8 with no walks.  11-0 final.  Aldridge with another home run.  Daytona Bryden had four hits and 3 runs scored.  Fleischman, Chamberlain, Wary, Helbing and A. Jones each had a pair of RBIs.

Interestingly the WARHAWKS are once again visiting team for the fourth time in five games and for the second time vs Rose Hulman.  I hope that means the #1 seed gets to be the home team in the final game. 

I'd be pretty surprised if it wasn't Bachar in game 11.

UW-W up 3-0 after 5 innings in championship game.  Visitors again. Isn't it a coin flip each game to determine the home game?

U Dub Dub are visitors because everyone hates them.  Even the NCAA.  :D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 22, 2016, 10:39:27 AM
This is so huge for Appleton and wisconsin I'm getting all tournament pass this may not happen again don't count whitewater out especially if bachar can be dominant Morgan is so solid obviously la Crosse probably has to be the favorite but either way good luck and how awesome would it be to have wiac final.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on May 22, 2016, 01:31:57 PM
I am not sure if you have looked at the brackets but La Crosse is in the same bracket with Cortland and their first game is vs Trinity.  I would be very surprised if Trinity or Cortland does not come out of this bracket and go on to win it.

WW has the easiest path to the championship game.

http://www.ncaa.com/interactive-bracket/baseball/d3
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 22, 2016, 01:45:23 PM
I just believe la Crosse has the bats 1 through 9 and boushley is rock solid on the mound.  You are correct about whitewater having an easier path however.  I personally am picking la Crosse to win it all.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on May 22, 2016, 01:55:08 PM
Great and I am personally picking Trinity so we will find out after the first game who is closer to being right.  ;D
La Crosse does have a strong offensive team but Trinity is number 2 and number 2 in ERA. LC is 88 with a 4.17 ERA.
Defense and pitching usually dominate over the long haul in tournament play, but your correct they may slug their way to a few victories as Trinity has done.
We really need to start a CWS thread.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on May 22, 2016, 03:53:23 PM
These commitments are all according to Prep Baseball Report...if anyone has any other commitments, please let us all know and I can add them to the list.....or if you have any comments on any recruit, I'm sure many of us would be interested to hear.

La Crosse

Jacob Greenberg  OF  Wauwatosa West
Lucas Maurina  SS  Altoona
Alec Morrison  RHP  Middleton
Connor Neeck  RHP  Grafton
Alex Olver  LHP  DeForest
Evan Ostertag  RHP  Green Bay East
Jacob Sandy  OF  Brookfield Centra
Zach Pronchinske  RHP  Arcadia

Oshkosh

Harrison Collar  3B  Appleton West
Johnny Duranso  OF  Arrowhead
Michael Hensel  C  Germantown
Jake Homan  RHP  Muskego
Kale Knaub  RHP  Port Washington
Grant Steinike  RHP  Cedarburg
Jacob Varick  RHP  Kettle Moraine
Landon Williamson  C  Marathon
Nick Lahrman  OF  McHenry West (IL)
Jack McEnroe  1B  Elk Grove (IL)
Luke McMahon  RHP  Oak Park-River Forest (IL)
Jacob Rintz  SS  Schaumburg (IL)
Dylan Rusniak  OF  Brother Rice (IL)
Kyle Murphy  OF  Cedarburg

Platteville

Collin Mormann  C  Morton (IL)

Stevens Point

John Popham  OF  Waupaca
Drew Finley Haag  OF  Middleton
Tom Duddletston  SS  De La Salle  (IL)--also playing football
Jordon Gomez  3B  Marshall

Stout

Noah Herried  2B  Necedah
Sam Perlin  RHP  Vernon Hills (IL)
Philip Schmit  LHP  Chaska (MN)

Whitewater

Evan Sigmund  RHP  Oconto Falls
Nick Goudreau  RHP  Appleton East
Trevor Hogenson  C  Saint Mary Central
Andrew James  1B  Whitefish Bay
Kyle Scoville  SS  Kenosha Bradford
Andrew Farbak  RHP  Lincoln Way Central (IL)
Matt O'Sullivan  LHP  Kaneland (IL)
Nick Santoro  SS  Waubonsie Valley (IL)
Jeran Simpson  SS  Wheaton Warrenille South (IL)
Ryan Kaul  C  Beaver Dam
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on May 22, 2016, 05:00:52 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 22, 2016, 01:55:08 PM
Great and I am personally picking Trinity so we will find out after the first game who is closer to being right.  ;D
La Crosse does have a strong offensive team but Trinity is number 2 and number 2 in ERA. LC is 88 with a 4.17 ERA.
Defense and pitching usually dominate over the long haul in tournament play, but your correct they may slug their way to a few victories as Trinity has done.
We really need to start a CWS thread.

I'm going to step back and look at this whole thing from an unbiased perspective. I'll take Whitewater. ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 22, 2016, 05:05:58 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 22, 2016, 10:39:27 AM
This is so huge for Appleton and wisconsin I'm getting all tournament pass this may not happen again don't count whitewater out especially if bachar can be dominant Morgan is so solid obviously la Crosse probably has to be the favorite but either way good luck and how awesome would it be to have wiac final.
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Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on May 22, 2016, 05:22:47 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on May 22, 2016, 03:53:23 PM

Oshkosh
Harrison Collar  3B  Appleton West
Johnny Duranso  OF  Arrowhead
Michael Hensel  C  Germantown
Jake Homan  RHP  Muskego
Kale Knaub  RHP  Port Washington
Grant Steinike  RHP  Cedarburg
Jacob Varick  RHP  Kettle Moraine
Landon Williamson  C  Marathon
Nick Lahrman  OF  McHenry West (IL)
Jack McEnroe  1B  Elk Grove (IL)
Luke McMahon  RHP  Oak Park-River Forest (IL)
Jacob Rintz  SS  Schaumburg (IL)
Dylan Rusniak  OF  Brother Rice (IL)

Grant broke his ankle and foot playing in a spring game a couple of weeks ago costing him his entire senior season ( Cedarburg plays summer baseball). Grant comes from  a great family and pretty much eats, drinks, and sleeps baseball. I had the opportunity to coach him his freshman season.  He is a great teammate, an excellent student, and a talented pitcher. He is a student of the game. I watched Saturday's double header in Cedarburg with him and was very impressed with his knowledge of his teammates' strengths and weaknesses and the technical aspects of what they needed to work on. It is killing him that he can't play with his teammates this summer and I have no doubt he will work as hard as he can to be ready to be a part of the Titans next near. I wish him well. Oshkosh is adding a quality person with Grant. My understanding is that he is rooming with teammate Kyle Murphy, who also intends to play for the Titans. Murphy is an outfielder who hits third in the Cedarburg lineup.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on May 22, 2016, 06:20:27 PM

I'm going to step back and look at this whole thing from an unbiased perspective. I'll take Whitewater. ;)
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OK lets have a friendly bet if Trinity wins you can send me some Cheese Curds and if Whitewater wins we'll send you a cheese head (Senator Cruz).  Actually I may have just decided to switch teams on my own. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: houdini on May 22, 2016, 08:52:14 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 22, 2016, 01:31:57 PM
I am not sure if you have looked at the brackets but La Crosse is in the same bracket with Cortland and their first game is vs Trinity.  I would be very surprised if Trinity or Cortland does not come out of this bracket and go on to win it.

WW has the easiest path to the championship game.

http://www.ncaa.com/interactive-bracket/baseball/d3
Wow that's one crazy bracket.  If they are going to keep this format the need to loose the predetermined match-ups and re-seed.  Four of the top six ranked teams in the same pool.  I agree that La Crosse doesn't have the pitching to win it, but i hope they prove me wrong.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on May 22, 2016, 09:29:31 PM
I would advise the fans who attend the tourney to party at Holidays which is on County CB about 4 miles south of the Appleton International Airport.  They have tons of TV's, great bar food and pizza, and an outdoor rooftop patio.  Wish they would put one of these in Oconto.    :(
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 22, 2016, 09:34:10 PM
James B Miller Stadium renovation set to begin. 

http://www.uwwsports.com/news/2016/5/20/baseball-clubhouse-renovation-underway.aspx?path=baseball

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on May 22, 2016, 10:59:00 PM
Jordon Gomez, 3B/RHP, from Marshall has committed to UWSP.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on May 22, 2016, 11:43:19 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on May 22, 2016, 05:22:47 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on May 22, 2016, 03:53:23 PM

Oshkosh
Harrison Collar  3B  Appleton West
Johnny Duranso  OF  Arrowhead
Michael Hensel  C  Germantown
Jake Homan  RHP  Muskego
Kale Knaub  RHP  Port Washington
Grant Steinike  RHP  Cedarburg
Jacob Varick  RHP  Kettle Moraine
Landon Williamson  C  Marathon
Nick Lahrman  OF  McHenry West (IL)
Jack McEnroe  1B  Elk Grove (IL)
Luke McMahon  RHP  Oak Park-River Forest (IL)
Jacob Rintz  SS  Schaumburg (IL)
Dylan Rusniak  OF  Brother Rice (IL)

Grant broke his ankle and foot playing in a spring game a couple of weeks ago costing him his entire senior season ( Cedarburg plays summer baseball). Grant comes from  a great family and pretty much eats, drinks, and sleeps baseball. I had the opportunity to coach him his freshman season.  He is a great teammate, an excellent student, and a talented pitcher. He is a student of the game. I watched Saturday's double header in Cedarburg with him and was very impressed with his knowledge of his teammates' strengths and weaknesses and the technical aspects of what they needed to work on. It is killing him that he can't play with his teammates this summer and I have no doubt he will work as hard as he can to be ready to be a part of the Titans next near. I wish him well. Oshkosh is adding a quality person with Grant. My understanding is that he is rooming with teammate Kyle Murphy, who also intends to play for the Titans. Murphy is an outfielder who hits third in the Cedarburg lineup.

Thank you for the info, it's very much appreciated.  Also, good luck to Grant on his recovery!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on May 23, 2016, 12:04:09 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on May 22, 2016, 11:43:19 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on May 22, 2016, 05:22:47 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on May 22, 2016, 03:53:23 PM

Oshkosh
Harrison Collar  3B  Appleton West
Johnny Duranso  OF  Arrowhead
Michael Hensel  C  Germantown
Jake Homan  RHP  Muskego
Kale Knaub  RHP  Port Washington
Grant Steinike  RHP  Cedarburg
Jacob Varick  RHP  Kettle Moraine
Landon Williamson  C  Marathon
Nick Lahrman  OF  McHenry West (IL)
Jack McEnroe  1B  Elk Grove (IL)
Luke McMahon  RHP  Oak Park-River Forest (IL)
Jacob Rintz  SS  Schaumburg (IL)
Dylan Rusniak  OF  Brother Rice (IL)

Grant broke his ankle and foot playing in a spring game a couple of weeks ago costing him his entire senior season ( Cedarburg plays summer baseball). Grant comes from  a great family and pretty much eats, drinks, and sleeps baseball. I had the opportunity to coach him his freshman season.  He is a great teammate, an excellent student, and a talented pitcher. He is a student of the game. I watched Saturday's double header in Cedarburg with him and was very impressed with his knowledge of his teammates' strengths and weaknesses and the technical aspects of what they needed to work on. It is killing him that he can't play with his teammates this summer and I have no doubt he will work as hard as he can to be ready to be a part of the Titans next near. I wish him well. Oshkosh is adding a quality person with Grant. My understanding is that he is rooming with teammate Kyle Murphy, who also intends to play for the Titans. Murphy is an outfielder who hits third in the Cedarburg lineup.

Thank you for the info, it's very much appreciated.  Also, good luck to Grant on his recovery!!

Also, meant to say thanks for putting together the recruiting lists on both the basketball and baseball boards. It's great information for all readers of the boards. +k!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on May 23, 2016, 12:06:15 AM
Quote from: AppletonRocks on May 22, 2016, 09:29:31 PM
I would advise the fans who attend the tourney to party at Holidays which is on County CB about 4 miles south of the Appleton International Airport.  They have tons of TV's, great bar food and pizza, and an outdoor rooftop patio.  Wish they would put one of these in Oconto.    :(

But aren't you the guy who advised UW-W fans to eat at Chipotle awhile back?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ElRetornodelEspencio on May 23, 2016, 01:24:25 AM
Quote from: houdini on May 22, 2016, 08:52:14 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 22, 2016, 01:31:57 PM
I am not sure if you have looked at the brackets but La Crosse is in the same bracket with Cortland and their first game is vs Trinity.  I would be very surprised if Trinity or Cortland does not come out of this bracket and go on to win it.

WW has the easiest path to the championship game.

http://www.ncaa.com/interactive-bracket/baseball/d3
Wow that's one crazy bracket.  If they are going to keep this format the need to loose the predetermined match-ups and re-seed.  Four of the top six ranked teams in the same pool.  I agree that La Crosse doesn't have the pitching to win it, but i hope they prove me wrong.

NCAA doesn't recognize those rankings. If they were going to reseed it wouldn't be based on them.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 23, 2016, 12:25:51 PM
UW-La Crosse dominates the Midwest All Region team.  Kohlwey, Anderson, Cordova, Boushley all named to the first team.  Kenkel and Malek to the third team.  Kohlwey player of the year, Boushley pitcher of the year and Schwartz coach of the year.  For the WARHAWKS Aldridge, Bachar and Morgan were named to the second team.  Oshkosh places Klemmen and Eagan on the second and third teams respectively. 

Complete team here:  http://www.d3baseball.com/awards/all-region/2016/midwest

Congrats to all involved.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 23, 2016, 02:03:12 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 23, 2016, 12:25:51 PM
UW-La Crosse dominates the Midwest All Region team.  Kohlwey, Anderson, Cordova, Boushley all named to the first team.  Kenkel and Malek to the third team.  Kohlwey player of the year, Boushley pitcher of the year and Schwartz coach of the year.  For the WARHAWKS Aldridge, Bachar and Morgan were named to the second team. Oshkosh places Klemmen and Eagan on the second and third teams respectively. 

Complete team here:  http://www.d3baseball.com/awards/all-region/2016/midwest

Congrats to all involved.
Soooo Bachar is 2nd Team All Region, yet not a 1st Team All WIAC selection?

How exactly does that happen?  Just Bill, have an explanation by chance?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 23, 2016, 04:47:39 PM
Don't ask me, cubs.  I'm still trying to figure out how you can play a team three times in a regional at a neutral site and be the visitor all three times.  ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on May 23, 2016, 06:57:54 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 23, 2016, 04:47:39 PM
Don't ask me, cubs.  I'm still trying to figure out how you can play a team three times in a regional at a neutral site and be the visitor all three times.  ;D

I explained, the NCAA has it in for U Dub Dub.  Blame Pat Miller, it's his fault.  :o
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: houdini on May 23, 2016, 08:05:06 PM
Quote from: ElRetornodelEspencio on May 23, 2016, 01:24:25 AM
Quote from: houdini on May 22, 2016, 08:52:14 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 22, 2016, 01:31:57 PM
I am not sure if you have looked at the brackets but La Crosse is in the same bracket with Cortland and their first game is vs Trinity.  I would be very surprised if Trinity or Cortland does not come out of this bracket and go on to win it.

WW has the easiest path to the championship game.

http://www.ncaa.com/interactive-bracket/baseball/d3
Wow that's one crazy bracket.  If they are going to keep this format the need to loose the predetermined match-ups and re-seed.  Four of the top six ranked teams in the same pool.  I agree that La Crosse doesn't have the pitching to win it, but i hope they prove me wrong.

NCAA doesn't recognize those rankings. If they were going to reseed it wouldn't be based on them.
Where did I say they did?  The point was that according to the best resource we have for D3 baseball the 1st, 3rd, 4th and 6th best teams in the country are in the same pool.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on May 23, 2016, 09:06:46 PM
Actually if you use a pure analytical approach and take opinions out of the equation you can use Massy Ratings they have the top three teams plus then next one number is number 6. You can argue about their algorithms as they tend to be skewed early in the season, but by now they should be leveled. I agree that you have to beat the best to be the best, but WW has a much easier path to the top championship flight. (assuming they make it through) I agree the eventual champion will come out of the A side also.

For ref:

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?s=cbase2016&sub=11620

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 23, 2016, 09:12:40 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 23, 2016, 02:03:12 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 23, 2016, 12:25:51 PM
UW-La Crosse dominates the Midwest All Region team.  Kohlwey, Anderson, Cordova, Boushley all named to the first team.  Kenkel and Malek to the third team.  Kohlwey player of the year, Boushley pitcher of the year and Schwartz coach of the year.  For the WARHAWKS Aldridge, Bachar and Morgan were named to the second team. Oshkosh places Klemmen and Eagan on the second and third teams respectively. 

Complete team here:  http://www.d3baseball.com/awards/all-region/2016/midwest

Congrats to all involved.
Soooo Bachar is 2nd Team All Region, yet not a 1st Team All WIAC selection?

How exactly does that happen?  Just Bill, have an explanation by chance?
Two completely different groups of people (neither of which are the NCAA, by the way) voting with completely different criteria. Of course you'd expect discrepancies. You'd be foolish not to.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 23, 2016, 09:37:12 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on May 23, 2016, 09:12:40 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 23, 2016, 02:03:12 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 23, 2016, 12:25:51 PM
UW-La Crosse dominates the Midwest All Region team.  Kohlwey, Anderson, Cordova, Boushley all named to the first team.  Kenkel and Malek to the third team.  Kohlwey player of the year, Boushley pitcher of the year and Schwartz coach of the year.  For the WARHAWKS Aldridge, Bachar and Morgan were named to the second team. Oshkosh places Klemmen and Eagan on the second and third teams respectively. 

Complete team here:  http://www.d3baseball.com/awards/all-region/2016/midwest

Congrats to all involved.
Soooo Bachar is 2nd Team All Region, yet not a 1st Team All WIAC selection?

How exactly does that happen?  Just Bill, have an explanation by chance?
Two completely different groups of people (neither of which are the NCAA, by the way) voting with completely different criteria. Of course you'd expect discrepancies. You'd be foolish not to.
I guess that was my question, as you always seem to have a pretty good feel on these things.... 

Does All Conference team get picked based on stats compiled in just the 20 WIAC games, while the Regional teams are selected based on full season stats?  That is about the only thing I can think of...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on May 23, 2016, 10:00:03 PM
Quote from: AppletonRocks on May 23, 2016, 06:57:54 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 23, 2016, 04:47:39 PM
Don't ask me, cubs.  I'm still trying to figure out how you can play a team three times in a regional at a neutral site and be the visitor all three times.  ;D

I explained, the NCAA has it in for U Dub Dub.  Blame Pat Miller, it's his fault.  :o

I'm not sure when this record broke, but it was awhile ago.

(I know, don't feed the troll...)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ElRetornodelEspencio on May 24, 2016, 02:37:29 AM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 23, 2016, 09:06:46 PM
Actually if you use a pure analytical approach and take opinions out of the equation you can use Massy Ratings they have the top three teams plus then next one number is number 6. You can argue about their algorithms as they tend to be skewed early in the season, but by now they should be leveled. I agree that you have to beat the best to be the best, but WW has a much easier path to the top championship flight. (assuming they make it through) I agree the eventual champion will come out of the A side also.

For ref:

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?s=cbase2016&sub=11620

Massey is bad on D3 baseball. I guess you didn't notice that he has Occidental #4 and they didn't win their conference and didn't make the regional.

Massey always overrates the West and South. It's been true for years. The only teams he has in the top 15 other than those regions are UWL, Cortland, and Keystone -- while he has teams like LaGrange, Concordia, Linfield, TX Lu in the top 16. I mean come on, Centenary, Chapman, East Texas Baptist, Redlands and freaking Pacific all in the top 22 over Fisher and La Roche? That should tell you all you need to know.

My guess is that Massey gives bonuses to D2 teams, and West and South teams play more of them and get bumps in SOS because of it, and because it's D3, he probably doesn't even know or care about the outsized effect as long as it makes his ratings better for D1 and D2.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on May 24, 2016, 11:37:05 AM
Maybe they are more accurate than you think. :o

Actually my point is that there are analytical ways to rank teams without people involved, you can always argue about the specific analytical approach, but east/west biases and opinions can be taken out of the process with a rigorous analytical approach.  I have not compared their D1 rankings vs the others that are available, but I am sure that whatever algorithm they use, they use it across the board as it makes no sense to hone one and not duplicate it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ElRetornodelEspencio on May 24, 2016, 12:29:11 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 24, 2016, 11:37:05 AM
Maybe they are more accurate than you think. :o


Of course you think this. Never mind that no west or south regional team in the NCAA tournament this year has ever won a national championship.

And the Massey ratings are like this every year. Pretty decent for other regions, but wildly out of whack for western and southern teams. Connection to D2, NAIA and D1 schedules seems the most likely explanation, considering how far out of whack his schedule rankings are with the NCAA's SOS. Teams back east don't play NAIA/D2 anymore -- it used to happen quite a bit.

I'm sorry, you have to be delusional to actually think that a team that didn't even make the tournament is better than a 40 win team that won a regional. That's pretty insulting and pretty high-horse for a fan of a team that's been to Appleton once and didn't win anything there.

All pretty funny for a convo happening on the board of a conference that is sending two teams to Appleton and has multiple national championships to its credit.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on May 24, 2016, 01:40:48 PM
Deep breaths - deep breaths - let the inner for "forheaven" go...

My point is that there are analytical ways to rank teams so pools can be balanced properly and the cross over pools for losers would give the most balanced way to have a CWS with the current format. Nothing is going to be perfect and I agree in the end you have to beat the best to be the champion. At least this year the B pool is a much easier path.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 24, 2016, 02:04:48 PM
I wish that Massey would publish his data with the confidence intervals so we could see the real statistical evidence for the ranking. For those who have forgotten your college statistics, confidence intervals give the observer an idea of likeness or difference.

Massey #1 and Massey #25 may not be that different.

I do expect Massey #25 and Massey #125 to be different tho'
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on May 24, 2016, 04:54:33 PM
ERE has a point regarding Oxy, and the spread is probably small between the top teams by the time you get to the end of the season. I am curious how their data skews teams higher in the West.  I actually may drop them a note and ask why that might be. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ElRetornodelEspencio on May 24, 2016, 10:11:56 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 24, 2016, 04:54:33 PM
ERE has a point regarding Oxy, and the spread is probably small between the top teams by the time you get to the end of the season. I am curious how their data skews teams higher in the West.  I actually may drop them a note and ask why that might be.

Oxy isn't the only one. It's a pretty bad skew that is highly unlikely to be even close to accurate.

Nice that someone dinged my karma before thinking I might actually know what I'm talking about.

And there's nothing easy about either half of the draw. Each side has one team that's previously won a championship.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 108 Stitches on May 24, 2016, 10:18:30 PM
I will give you a +1 to offset it...

"Previously" means nothing this year, you play the team on the field not last years or one from 10 years ago.

I sent Massy an email asking him about the issue, will be interesting in what he comes back wtih.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ElRetornodelEspencio on May 24, 2016, 10:31:41 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 24, 2016, 02:04:48 PM
I wish that Massey would publish his data with the confidence intervals so we could see the real statistical evidence for the ranking. For those who have forgotten your college statistics, confidence intervals give the observer an idea of likeness or difference.

Massey #1 and Massey #25 may not be that different.

I do expect Massey #25 and Massey #125 to be different tho'

Well, you can do this just be looking at the raw rating itself. Or power rating, whichever you prefer.

The difference between #1 and #3 is as more than the difference between #3 and #22. Of course that's in large part the impact in the West region, and the #1 ranked team having played in the West regional.

But the difference between #1 and #25 is .85. To get that difference again, you have to go all the way down to #177.

Interestingly, outside of the West and South regions, 6 of the 9 highest ranked teams are going to Appleton. UWL, Cortland, Keystone, Tufts, UWW, Fisher, Wooster, La Roche -- Oswego, Case, Ramapo, St. Scholastica, TCNJ, Buena Vista, Otterbein, Rose-Hulman, Marietta, Wartburg, St. John's, North Central, Wash U, Grinnell, RU-Camden are the rest of the teams in the top 50 outside of the South and West.  So if Massey could lick this skew problem, it would probably be a very good ranking, aside from the usual Massey issue with weak SOSs (which explains Tufts, Grinnell, Scholastica, Otterbein).

My guess is that if someone was to email Massey, he wouldn't know anything about the regions in D3, and he would defend his system in the absence of any "local knowledge" that would give him any greater insight. I've known other people that created computer rankings and it's like an inventor and their invention.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ElRetornodelEspencio on May 24, 2016, 10:48:16 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 24, 2016, 10:18:30 PM
I will give you a +1 to offset it...

"Previously" means nothing this year, you play the team on the field not last years or one from 10 years ago.

I sent Massy an email asking him about the issue, will be interesting in what he comes back wtih.

6 teams that won regionals were the #1 seed. Fisher and Keystone were both moved out of their home regions for competitive balance reasons (they didn't have to be moved) and won. None of the 8 teams look at all weak to me (and that's not always true). Several of them have first team all region and region pitcher of the year aces and a couple of more you could make good arguments for.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 25, 2016, 09:58:12 AM
Quote from: ElRetornodelEspencio on May 24, 2016, 10:11:56 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 24, 2016, 04:54:33 PM
ERE has a point regarding Oxy, and the spread is probably small between the top teams by the time you get to the end of the season. I am curious how their data skews teams higher in the West.  I actually may drop them a note and ask why that might be.

Oxy isn't the only one. It's a pretty bad skew that is highly unlikely to be even close to accurate.

Nice that someone dinged my karma before thinking I might actually know what I'm talking about.

And there's nothing easy about either half of the draw. Each side has one team that's previously won a championship.

And I will give you +1 to put you ahead of the game because I think the whole karma thing is kind of stupid.    ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: palum on May 25, 2016, 10:51:01 AM
Nice article on WW's "Angel in the Outfield" former coach Jim Miller in the Ft. Atkinson Paper.

http://www.dailyunion.com/sports/article_3a56b078-21ce-11e6-a593-87c1084af042.html
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on May 25, 2016, 11:04:03 AM
ABCA All Region teams posted:  http://abca.org/awards/all-region/2016/2016_ncaa_d3_all-region (http://abca.org/awards/all-region/2016/2016_ncaa_d3_all-region)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 25, 2016, 11:51:40 AM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on May 25, 2016, 11:04:03 AM
ABCA All Region teams posted:  http://abca.org/awards/all-region/2016/2016_ncaa_d3_all-region (http://abca.org/awards/all-region/2016/2016_ncaa_d3_all-region)


15 of 50 are from the WIAC.  Congrats to all named.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 25, 2016, 12:03:01 PM
Quote from: ElRetornodelEspencio on May 24, 2016, 10:31:41 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 24, 2016, 02:04:48 PM
I wish that Massey would publish his data with the confidence intervals so we could see the real statistical evidence for the ranking. For those who have forgotten your college statistics, confidence intervals give the observer an idea of likeness or difference.

Massey #1 and Massey #25 may not be that different.

I do expect Massey #25 and Massey #125 to be different tho'

Well, you can do this just be looking at the raw rating itself. Or power rating, whichever you prefer.

The difference between #1 and #3 is as more than the difference between #3 and #22. Of course that's in large part the impact in the West region, and the #1 ranked team having played in the West regional.

But the difference between #1 and #25 is .85. To get that difference again, you have to go all the way down to #177.

Interestingly, outside of the West and South regions, 6 of the 9 highest ranked teams are going to Appleton. UWL, Cortland, Keystone, Tufts, UWW, Fisher, Wooster, La Roche -- Oswego, Case, Ramapo, St. Scholastica, TCNJ, Buena Vista, Otterbein, Rose-Hulman, Marietta, Wartburg, St. John's, North Central, Wash U, Grinnell, RU-Camden are the rest of the teams in the top 50 outside of the South and West.  So if Massey could lick this skew problem, it would probably be a very good ranking, aside from the usual Massey issue with weak SOSs (which explains Tufts, Grinnell, Scholastica, Otterbein).


My guess is that if someone was to email Massey, he wouldn't know anything about the regions in D3, and he would defend his system in the absence of any "local knowledge" that would give him any greater insight. I've known other people that created computer rankings and it's like an inventor and their invention.

True and +1!. I really dislike smites.

Maybe I need to rethink Massey. Massey always ranked favorable the WIAC in football. Basketball for Massey also seemed to make sense. So I have believed that the ranking system carried over to baseball where other forms of cross-checking that I considered were not available.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 25, 2016, 12:34:43 PM
In Basketball and Football there is much less divisional crossover where D3s are playing D2 and/or NAIA schools.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 26, 2016, 12:48:59 PM
The awards just keep piling up for Kohlwey, Anderson and Boushey.  Kohlwey named D3baseball.com All American Player of the Year.  Anderson and Boushey also garner first team honors.

For the complete list:  http://www.d3baseball.com/awards/all-americans/d3baseball-allamericans-2016
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Westside on May 26, 2016, 01:55:22 PM
Kohlwey's numbers are so ridiculous. Haven't seen a season like that since they changed the bats... I remember the 2010 World Series where every team had at least one guy with those kind of numbers... silly.

Congrats to him from a random guy out West!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on May 29, 2016, 01:29:54 PM
Pretty embarrassing series for the Warhawks.  :-[ :-[
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Brian R. Carroll on May 29, 2016, 03:46:34 PM
I enjoyed my brief stay in Appleton, but not the loss to Trinity. We simply couldn't get the critical hit, leaving 13 on base. Kudos to the Trinity pitcher and defense. They are a solid club.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on May 29, 2016, 04:39:51 PM
Quote from: Brian R. Carroll on May 29, 2016, 03:46:34 PM
I enjoyed my brief stay in Appleton, but not the loss to Trinity. We simply couldn't get the critical hit, leaving 13 on base. Kudos to the Trinity pitcher and defense. They are a solid club.

Gave up 8 runs. Many with 2 outs.   :-[ :-[
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 31, 2016, 09:21:43 AM
Quote from: AppletonRocks on May 29, 2016, 01:29:54 PM
Pretty embarrassing series for the Warhawks.  :-[ :-[

Well I guess if you're going to be embarrassed I'd rather it be when you're one of only eight teams still wearing a uniform.   After all a program could go 9-21 and have your whole season be an embarrassment.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 31, 2016, 11:09:29 AM
Kohlwey went hitless in his final game ending his streak at 49 (or maybe 50, I'm not sure).  At any rate the streak shatters the previous record which was 37.  Interestingly that record was set by Kohlwey last year. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 31, 2016, 11:36:27 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 31, 2016, 11:09:29 AM
Kohlwey went hitless in his final game ending his streak at 49 (or maybe 50, I'm not sure).  At any rate the streak shatters the previous record which was 37.  Interestingly that record was set by Kohlwey last year.
It was 51...

Thought for sure he had 52 on two different occasions Sunday night, but a pair of diving catches prevented it.  Fitting that Kohlwey actually got another chance in the 9th inning after making an out in the 8th inning, but it wasn't to be as he grounded out for the final out of the Eagles season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 31, 2016, 11:41:16 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 31, 2016, 11:09:29 AM
Kohlwey went hitless in his final game ending his streak at 49 (or maybe 50, I'm not sure).  At any rate the streak shatters the previous record which was 37.  Interestingly that record was set by Kohlwey last year.

BW, your information doesn't appear to be accurate, unless you were talking about conference or school records or something else.

Kohlwey's streak this season was 48, but added to the last three games of last season, brings his streak to 51. Kohlwey didn't have a 37-game hitting streak last season. His longest was 9 games. As a sophomore he had a 29-game streak. CORRECTION: His 29-game streak from his sophomore year was extended to 37 his junior year, so yes he did have a 37-game streak. My bad. Looks like UWL didn't submit that streak for an addition to the record book last year.

He actually didn't break the NCAA Division III record. That's Damian Costantino of Salve Regina from April 1, 2001 to March 10, 2003. Kohlwey's streak of 51 ranks second all-time, and 48 is (I think) the longest single-season streak, but the NCAA record book doesn't list that.

Consecutive Games Hitting Streaks (through 2015 season)
No. Player, Team vs. Opponent Date(s)
60 Damian Costantino, Salve Regina April 1, 2001-March 10, 2003
46 Corey Breyne, Aurora 1998
43 Justin Harriman, St. Scholastica March 27, 1999-April 1, 2000
42 Jason Armstrong, Trinity (TX) Feb. 17-March 23, 2004
41 Kevin Murphy, Wesley March 16, 2010-March 2, 2011
41 Tony DeLude, Delaware Valley May 5, 2000-March 9, 2002
40 Jose Fulgencio, New Jersey City March 25, 2007-March 16, 2008
40 Steve Smith, Bridgewater St. March 11, 2005-March 10, 2006
39 Brian Kolb, Wheaton (IL) March 20, 2008-March 31, 2009
38 Thomas Verrengia, Manhattanville March 2-May 4, 2008
38 Alex Weber-Shapiro, Claremont-M-S April 14, 2007-April 20, 2008
38 Bryan Caruso, Endicott March 25, 1999-March 23, 2000
37 Al Posch, Gettysburg March 24, 2013-March 14, 2014
37 Brad O’Connell, Wis.-Stout April 28, 2000-May 5, 2001
36 Nick Maiorano, Westminster (PA) March 16, 2008-March 7, 2009
36 Jay Quintana, Mary Washington 2003-04
35 Tony Miner, Southern Me. April 5-May 28, 1997

http://www.uwlathletics.com/custompages/Baseball%20Stats/2016stats/plyr_24.htm
http://www.uwlathletics.com/custompages/Baseball%20Stats/2015stats/plyr_24.htm
http://www.uwlathletics.com/custompages/Baseball%20Stats/2014stats/plyr_24.htm
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 31, 2016, 01:32:39 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on May 31, 2016, 11:41:16 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 31, 2016, 11:09:29 AM
Kohlwey went hitless in his final game ending his streak at 49 (or maybe 50, I'm not sure).  At any rate the streak shatters the previous record which was 37.  Interestingly that record was set by Kohlwey last year.

BW, your information doesn't appear to be accurate, unless you were talking about conference or school records or something else.

Kohlwey's streak this season was 48, but added to the last three games of last season, brings his streak to 51. Kohlwey didn't have a 37-game hitting streak last season. His longest was 9 games. As a sophomore he had a 29-game streak. CORRECTION: His 29-game streak from his sophomore year was extended to 37 his junior year, so yes he did have a 37-game streak. My bad. Looks like UWL didn't submit that streak for an addition to the record book last year.

He actually didn't break the NCAA Division III record. That's Damian Costantino of Salve Regina from April 1, 2001 to March 10, 2003. Kohlwey's streak of 51 ranks second all-time, and 48 is (I think) the longest single-season streak, but the NCAA record book doesn't list that.

Consecutive Games Hitting Streaks (through 2015 season)
No. Player, Team vs. Opponent Date(s)
60 Damian Costantino, Salve Regina April 1, 2001-March 10, 2003
46 Corey Breyne, Aurora 1998
43 Justin Harriman, St. Scholastica March 27, 1999-April 1, 2000
42 Jason Armstrong, Trinity (TX) Feb. 17-March 23, 2004
41 Kevin Murphy, Wesley March 16, 2010-March 2, 2011
41 Tony DeLude, Delaware Valley May 5, 2000-March 9, 2002
40 Jose Fulgencio, New Jersey City March 25, 2007-March 16, 2008
40 Steve Smith, Bridgewater St. March 11, 2005-March 10, 2006
39 Brian Kolb, Wheaton (IL) March 20, 2008-March 31, 2009
38 Thomas Verrengia, Manhattanville March 2-May 4, 2008
38 Alex Weber-Shapiro, Claremont-M-S April 14, 2007-April 20, 2008
38 Bryan Caruso, Endicott March 25, 1999-March 23, 2000
37 Al Posch, Gettysburg March 24, 2013-March 14, 2014
37 Brad O'Connell, Wis.-Stout April 28, 2000-May 5, 2001
36 Nick Maiorano, Westminster (PA) March 16, 2008-March 7, 2009
36 Jay Quintana, Mary Washington 2003-04
35 Tony Miner, Southern Me. April 5-May 28, 1997

http://www.uwlathletics.com/custompages/Baseball%20Stats/2016stats/plyr_24.htm
http://www.uwlathletics.com/custompages/Baseball%20Stats/2015stats/plyr_24.htm
http://www.uwlathletics.com/custompages/Baseball%20Stats/2014stats/plyr_24.htm


Thanks for the correction cubs.  I lost track but I knew I could count on you to correct it so I didn't really try to clarify it.   

My bad, JB, I should have clarified that I was referring to the conference record which I found on the conference website.   I didn't check it against the NCAA record book.  Thanks for making the clarification and for the national information.   

   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 31, 2016, 01:50:36 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 31, 2016, 01:32:39 PM
Thanks for the correction cubs.  I lost track but I knew I could count on you to correct it so I didn't really try to clarify it.
Not sure if I should take that as a compliment or an insult?!?!?  ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 31, 2016, 02:08:15 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 31, 2016, 01:50:36 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 31, 2016, 01:32:39 PM
Thanks for the correction cubs.  I lost track but I knew I could count on you to correct it so I didn't really try to clarify it.
Not sure if I should take that as a compliment or an insult?!?!?  ;D

Definitely a compliment.  The only reason I didn't check it out more thoroughly is that I knew you would know and correct it if need be.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on May 31, 2016, 09:41:43 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 31, 2016, 02:08:15 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 31, 2016, 01:50:36 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 31, 2016, 01:32:39 PM
Thanks for the correction cubs.  I lost track but I knew I could count on you to correct it so I didn't really try to clarify it.
Not sure if I should take that as a compliment or an insult?!?!?  ;D

Definitely a compliment.  The only reason I didn't check it out more thoroughly is that I knew you would know and correct it if need be.

Learn that approach in Lackadaisical Research 301 in the UW-W biz school?   ???
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 06, 2016, 02:55:19 PM
WIAC in the Northwoods League:

Wisconsin: Logan Reckert - Oshkosh
Madison: Heath Renz - Whitewater
Lakeshore: Lake Bachar - Whitewater; Austin Jones - Whitewater
Green Bay: Raymond Greco - Stevens Point
Eau Claire: Caleb Boushley - La Crosse; Hayden Bowe - Stout; Jameson Lavery - La Crosse
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 07, 2016, 12:36:40 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 16, 2016, 02:55:56 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 15, 2016, 10:56:07 PM
I agree with your assessment on la crosse but honestly I thought point could've taken 3 out of 4 from them.  Like u said they do what they need to do and point just couldn't capitalize this year.  Hoping la crosse makes it to Appleton I'd spend the money to see them play boushley and kowley are amazing and both should be first or second team all American.  What's going on with Luke Bachar this year not like he sucks or anything but I had heard before the season that he's going pro.  Guess whitewater is getting an absolute stud from oconto falls next year. Point will be getting John popham from Waupaca he has shot to play as a freshman.
Evan Sigmund is the name of the kid from Oconto Falls.....  VERY good HS pitcher, who I am sure will improve while at Whitewater.  He just got beat this weekend by FVL, but I would have no problem saying he is the best pitcher in the Northeastern Conference this year.  SOLID pickup for the Warhawks.  Coach Vodenlich seems to have a nice little "pipeline" running from Oconto Falls to Whitewater (Nompleggi, Gruetzmacher, and now Sigmund.)  Sigmund might just be the best of the bunch as far as talent coming out of high school.
Sigmund throws a CG one-hitter in a 3-0 victory over Mosinee in the Sectional Semifinals this morning in Waupaca. 

Should Oconto Falls win again today, Sigmund and his teammates would be playing in the State Tournament next week in Grand Chute.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 07, 2016, 04:19:17 PM
Looks like they will have to get through Waupaca and Walker Smith on the mound.  I would bet Waupaca wins but anything can happen.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 07, 2016, 06:07:31 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on June 07, 2016, 04:19:17 PM
Looks like they will have to get through Waupaca and Walker Smith on the mound.  I would bet Waupaca wins but anything can happen.
Considering there is a HUGE dropoff from Sigmund to Brabant and Waupaca has their "ace" on the mound, it would be a HUGE upset for Oconto Falls to win....  No doubt in my mind however that Sigmund was the best pitcher to take the mound in Waupaca today.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 08, 2016, 03:23:58 PM
It would've been interesting to see Waupaca have to face Sigmund.  Did they see him during the regular season?  Waupaca seems to have three solid pitchers so hopefully they'll have a shot at the state title.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 08, 2016, 06:14:57 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on June 08, 2016, 03:23:58 PM
It would've been interesting to see Waupaca have to face Sigmund. Did they see him during the regular season?  Waupaca seems to have three solid pitchers so hopefully they'll have a shot at the state title.
Yes, and Oconto Falls and Sigmund beat Waupaca 3-1...

Three solid pitchers?  If you are counting Popham as the third, I'm guessing you haven't seen him throw this year.  He is nowhere near the pitcher he was his junior year, hence him never even stepping on the mound at Sectionals despite Ellie's struggles throwing strikes and Kronk needing to go to the bullpen.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 10, 2016, 03:35:49 PM
Bachar goes in the 5th round to the Padres....  Here is his summary:

The kicker and punter on Wisconsin-Whitewater football squads that won NCAA Division III national titles in 2013 and 2014 and reached the semifinals in 2015, Bachar didn't join the baseball team until last spring. He pitched a six-hit shutout in the NCAA D-III regional playoffs and ranked as the top prospect in the collegiate Northwoods League during the summer, then encored this spring by pitching the Warhawks to the D-III College World Series. He's the Badger State's best college prospect since Jordan Zimmermann came out of Wisconsin-Stevens Point in 2007 and Whitewater's best since Bob Wickman in 1990. Bachar has made a lot of progress in little more than a year since he returned to the mound, showing the potential to have four solid pitches. He usually operates at 89-93 mph with a fastball that can touch 95. He has good feel for spin, with both his curveball and slider featuring power and depth, and also has some aptitude for changing speeds. Bachar throws quality strikes with all of his offerings, so there are no issues with him remaining a starter at the next level. His strong build should provide him with the needed durability. There's not much projection remaining in his physically mature frame, though his stuff could get a tick better once he dedicates himself fully to baseball.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on June 10, 2016, 05:49:29 PM
Quote from: cubs on June 10, 2016, 03:35:49 PM
Bachar goes in the 5th round to the Padres....  Here is his summary:

The kicker and punter on Wisconsin-Whitewater football squads that won NCAA Division III national titles in 2013 and 2014 and reached the semifinals in 2015, Bachar didn't join the baseball team until last spring. He pitched a six-hit shutout in the NCAA D-III regional playoffs and ranked as the top prospect in the collegiate Northwoods League during the summer, then encored this spring by pitching the Warhawks to the D-III College World Series. He's the Badger State's best college prospect since Jordan Zimmermann came out of Wisconsin-Stevens Point in 2007 and Whitewater's best since Bob Wickman in 1990. Bachar has made a lot of progress in little more than a year since he returned to the mound, showing the potential to have four solid pitches. He usually operates at 89-93 mph with a fastball that can touch 95. He has good feel for spin, with both his curveball and slider featuring power and depth, and also has some aptitude for changing speeds. Bachar throws quality strikes with all of his offerings, so there are no issues with him remaining a starter at the next level. His strong build should provide him with the needed durability. There's not much projection remaining in his physically mature frame, though his stuff could get a tick better once he dedicates himself fully to baseball.

Nice!! Congrats Lake!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 11, 2016, 12:12:53 PM
Congrats and good luck, Lake.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on June 11, 2016, 11:43:50 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on June 11, 2016, 12:12:53 PM
Congrats and good luck, Lake.

Warhawk Austin Jones drafted by the Cubs today.  Good luck if you choose to leave, Austin!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 13, 2016, 09:45:22 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on June 11, 2016, 11:43:50 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on June 11, 2016, 12:12:53 PM
Congrats and good luck, Lake.

Warhawk Austin Jones drafted by the Cubs today.  Good luck if you choose to leave, Austin!


What he said.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 13, 2016, 10:48:57 AM
That's pretty awesome for Bachar when I observed him pitch when he was on he looked like a dominant pitcher like Zimmerman and Reinhard.  Hopefully he will reach his full potential and make it all the way to the big leagues.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on June 14, 2016, 05:49:44 PM
Bachar signs with the Padres for 350k, good luck to him!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 14, 2016, 08:38:32 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on June 14, 2016, 05:49:44 PM
Bachar signs with the Padres for 350k, good luck to him!!
Slot for that pick was $390,300 so clearly not an "under-slot" pick by the Padres in order to "bank" a large amount of money towards another pick in the draft....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 16, 2016, 02:05:05 PM
Waupaca playing for d2 state title game today.  Can Walker Smith get it done on the mound against a potent lineup?  He better be dialed in.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on June 16, 2016, 06:29:10 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on June 16, 2016, 02:05:05 PM
Waupaca playing for d2 state title game today.  Can Walker Smith get it done on the mound against a potent lineup?  He better be dialed in.

Waupaca gets the job done....can't say Popham looked very good in their two state tournament games though.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 16, 2016, 08:44:17 PM
He has some work to do to see field next year but overall I feel can hit most of the wiac pitching.  Guessing he plays outfield in college.  Heard walker smith isn't playing in college which was surprising to me.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 17, 2016, 12:15:05 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on June 16, 2016, 08:44:17 PM
He has some work to do to see field next year but overall I feel can hit most of the wiac pitching.  Guessing he plays outfield in college.  Heard walker smith isn't playing in college which was surprising to me.
Check your sources....  Walking on at St. Cloud State...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 17, 2016, 02:12:10 PM
That changed in last month then because I was told going to school there but not playing ball.  That's good news though kid like that needs to be playing.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on June 21, 2016, 01:15:45 PM
According to the Wauwatosa paper, Austin Jones is leaning towards returning to Whitewater for his Junior Season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 21, 2016, 02:46:26 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on June 21, 2016, 01:15:45 PM
According to the Wauwatosa paper, Austin Jones is leaning towards returning to Whitewater for his Junior Season.

I really think it would be in his best interest to do so.  Not from a program standpoint but rather from a developmental standpoint.  I just don't think he pitched enough this year because of his injury and an extra year of experience and maturation would serve him well in next year's draft.  But I wish him the best in whatever decision he makes. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 21, 2016, 11:56:39 PM
Did John popham from waupaca get all state recognition?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on June 22, 2016, 09:08:29 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on June 21, 2016, 11:56:39 PM
Did John popham from waupaca get all state recognition?

No
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on June 23, 2016, 06:45:11 PM
I've recently come across the news of 2 very talented pitchers being committed to UWSP.

Elijah Cannon of Riverdale, who had a game of 25 K's earlier this season, as well as Mack Blashka of Saint Mary Central are both continuing their careers at Stevens Point.  I was wondering when I would hear of some pitching recruits for the Pointers.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 24, 2016, 11:55:03 AM
Blashka will be their #2 next year guaranteed.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 24, 2016, 12:39:16 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on June 23, 2016, 06:45:11 PM
I've recently come across the news of 2 very talented pitchers being committed to UWSP.

Elijah Cannon of Riverdale, who had a game of 25 K's earlier this season, as well as Mack Blashka of Saint Mary Central are both continuing their careers at Stevens Point.  I was wondering when I would hear of some pitching recruits for the Pointers.
Would LOVE to hear what Cannon's pitch count was in that game!!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 24, 2016, 03:54:17 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on June 24, 2016, 11:55:03 AM
Blashka will be their #2 next year guaranteed.
Care to make a side wager?  ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on June 24, 2016, 03:57:58 PM
Quote from: cubs on June 24, 2016, 12:39:16 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on June 23, 2016, 06:45:11 PM
I've recently come across the news of 2 very talented pitchers being committed to UWSP.

Elijah Cannon of Riverdale, who had a game of 25 K's earlier this season, as well as Mack Blashka of Saint Mary Central are both continuing their careers at Stevens Point.  I was wondering when I would hear of some pitching recruits for the Pointers.
Would LOVE to hear what Cannon's pitch count was in that game!!!!

10 inning complete game....I know back when I pitched, I had a couple games about 130-140 pitches...that was because I threw hard and was wild, not a ton of balls being put in play.  He had to be around that mark but with good control.  25 K's is ridiculous.  In an article about Cannon I read that he throw about mid 80s, which should go up some with added strength and maturity.  Very solid get for UWSP and with the last name of Cannon...not a better position than pitcher for him.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on June 24, 2016, 04:00:25 PM
Quote from: cubs on June 24, 2016, 03:54:17 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on June 24, 2016, 11:55:03 AM
Blashka will be their #2 next year guaranteed.
Care to make a side wager?  ;D

Just another delusional post by Shinetime.  Blashka is a great recruit but I'd have a hard time believing he will come in as a freshman and move above Thomka and Miller from the start.  Of course Erickson will be the ace of the staff.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 25, 2016, 12:52:00 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on June 24, 2016, 03:57:58 PM
Quote from: cubs on June 24, 2016, 12:39:16 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on June 23, 2016, 06:45:11 PM
I've recently come across the news of 2 very talented pitchers being committed to UWSP.

Elijah Cannon of Riverdale, who had a game of 25 K's earlier this season, as well as Mack Blashka of Saint Mary Central are both continuing their careers at Stevens Point.  I was wondering when I would hear of some pitching recruits for the Pointers.
Would LOVE to hear what Cannon's pitch count was in that game!!!!

10 inning complete game....I know back when I pitched, I had a couple games about 130-140 pitches...that was because I threw hard and was wild, not a ton of balls being put in play.  He had to be around that mark but with good control.  25 K's is ridiculous.  In an article about Cannon I read that he throw about mid 80s, which should go up some with added strength and maturity.  Very solid get for UWSP and with the last name of Cannon...not a better position than pitcher for him.
I think you are giving the kid a little too much credit....  On average, a 15 pitch/inning number is something most good high school pitchers strive for.  However, when you look at the fact that he was striking out 2.5 batters per inning, I feel pretty confident in saying he didn't hit that 15 pitch/inning number due to the fact that there weren't many (5) outs where he could save some pitches thanks to early contact.

I'm guessing there is a reason we haven't heard how many pitches he threw that game in an era where you can find just about any information you want....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 25, 2016, 05:06:35 PM
Blashka was consistently throwing 90 at state I can't imagine he'll get worse going to point.  No idea how he's not going big time d1. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on June 25, 2016, 05:37:03 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on June 25, 2016, 05:06:35 PM
Blashka was consistently throwing 90 at state I can't imagine he'll get worse going to point.  No idea how he's not going big time d1.

I haven't seen him pitch, but if he's throwing 90 as a senior in high school I can't understand why a scholarship school didn't give him a chance.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on June 25, 2016, 06:26:17 PM
Gabriel Affeldt Middle Infielder from Monticello, MN
Tim Crom Outfielder from Streamwood, IL
Ethan Roberts Catcher from Rockford, IL and
Jordan Huehnerfuss Pitcher from Wausau West are all playing at UWSP next year.

I don't know much about any of them, I watched a video of Huehnerfuss and he looks like he could become a solid pitcher.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 25, 2016, 11:31:54 PM
I was sitting right next to a scout at Appleton and he called someone and said how did this kid not get drafted.  I seen the gun and it read 90 on regular basis.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on June 26, 2016, 10:15:18 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on June 25, 2016, 11:31:54 PM
I was sitting right next to a scout at Appleton and he called someone and said how did this kid not get drafted.  I seen the gun and it read 90 on regular basis.

Brewers could use him next year.  :o
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 26, 2016, 12:22:30 PM
Quote from: AppletonRocks on June 26, 2016, 10:15:18 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on June 25, 2016, 11:31:54 PM
I was sitting right next to a scout at Appleton and he called someone and said how did this kid not get drafted.  I seen the gun and it read 90 on regular basis.
Brewers could use him this year.  :o
FIFY...... ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on June 26, 2016, 01:38:40 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on June 25, 2016, 11:31:54 PM
I was sitting right next to a scout at Appleton and he called someone and said how did this kid not get drafted.  I seen the gun and it read 90 on regular basis.

Can he not sign a free agent contract?  Once he enters school, he will be off the draft board for three years.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on June 28, 2016, 10:56:30 AM
https://twitter.com/JoeyOlson614/status/747614549826764800

Impressive outing for @UWSPAthletics' pitcher Cole Erickson for the @KenoshaKingfish tonight. 7 IP 3 H 0 ER 8 K's. #d3b
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on June 28, 2016, 12:37:20 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on June 28, 2016, 10:56:30 AM
https://twitter.com/JoeyOlson614/status/747614549826764800

Impressive outing for @UWSPAthletics' pitcher Cole Erickson for the @KenoshaKingfish tonight. 7 IP 3 H 0 ER 8 K's. #d3b

It's really been something watching him progressively keep getting better and better since his freshman year.  He started really coming on at the end of this season and has kept it going into the summer, I'd be shocked if he didn't end up having a season next year at Point that doesn't have him in the conversation for Conference Pitcher of the Year.  Good work Cole!!!

Oh...and POST 1000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 29, 2016, 10:50:46 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on June 28, 2016, 12:37:20 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on June 28, 2016, 10:56:30 AM
https://twitter.com/JoeyOlson614/status/747614549826764800

Impressive outing for @UWSPAthletics' pitcher Cole Erickson for the @KenoshaKingfish tonight. 7 IP 3 H 0 ER 8 K's. #d3b

It's really been something watching him progressively keep getting better and better since his freshman year.  He started really coming on at the end of this season and has kept it going into the summer, I'd be shocked if he didn't end up having a season next year at Point that doesn't have him in the conversation for Conference Pitcher of the Year.  Good work Cole!!!

Oh...and POST 1000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

+1!  And thanks for the contributions to the WIAC boards, etc.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 29, 2016, 11:47:19 AM
Northwoods League

Eau Claire:
Caleb Boushley: 3-1, 4 GS, 24 IP, 22 K, 2.25 ERA
Jacob Lavery: 0-0, 4 G, 9 IP, 2.00 ERA  (no longer appears on roster)

Kenosha:
Cole Erickson: 2-2, 5G, 4 GS, 22.1 IP, 15 K, 6.04 ERA

Lakeshore:
Austin Jones: 1-2, 8 G, 0 GS, 10.1 IP, 15 K, 3.48 ERA

Madison:
Heath Renz: 1-0, 4 G, 4 GS, 16 IP, 9 K, 3.93 ERA
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on July 02, 2016, 07:11:53 PM
A strong outing vs Rockford earned Heath Renz a contract with the Mallards for the remainder of the season.  Renz threw 7 shutout innings, the longest by a Mallard starter this season, giving up 6 hits and striking out 8 in a no decision.  Renz lowered his ERA to 3.13. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on July 06, 2016, 10:02:54 AM
Renz picks up his second win 4-2 last night vs the Wisconsin Woodchucks.  5 innings, 6 hits, 1 unearned run, 1 walk and 3 strikeouts.  ERA drops to 2.57
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on July 12, 2016, 12:11:49 PM
Rentz: 5 IP, 2 H, 1 Unearned run, 2 BB, 3 K in a no decision against Kalamazoo.  ERA drops to 2.18

Austin Jones is no longer on the Chinooks roster.

Eau Claire:
Caleb Boushley: 5-1, 6 G, 6 GS, 37 IP, 3 BB, 32 K, ERA: 2.43 
Brett Steinwager (Stout): 0-0, 2 G, 0 GS, 1.2 IP, 4 BB, 0 K, ERA: 16.20

Kenosha:
Cole Erickson: 2-2, 7 G, 6 GS, 36.1 IP, 17 BB, 22 K, ERA: 4.95

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on July 27, 2016, 12:29:30 PM
Another nice outing for Renz last night as he picked up his third win (3-0) going 5 innings, giving up 3 hits, 2 runs (1 earned), walking 3 and striking out a pair in the team's 15-3 win over Lakeshore.  ERA down to 2.13

Others:

Boushley: 7 G, 7 GS, 41 IP, 4 BB, 37 K, 5-2 ERA: 3.73
Lavery: 5G, 1GS, 10.2 IP, 3 BB, 6 K, 1-0 ERA: 4.21 (reappeared on roster)
Stanwagner: No change in stats, no longer appears on roster
Erickson: 9 G, 8 GS, 47.2 IP, 21 BB, 31 K, 2-2 ERA: 4.90

Derek Graves (UW-Stout) added to Mankato Moon Dogs roster: 1 G, 0 GS, 0.2 IP, 0 BB, 0 K, 0-0 ERA: 13.50
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on August 02, 2016, 09:39:11 AM
Though the team lost 10-9 Heath Renz had another solid start going 6 innings surrendering just a pair of hits and one unearned run with three walks and 3 strikeouts.  ERA drops to 1.84.

Updates:

Boushley: 8 G, 8 GS, 48 IP, 22 R, 20 ER, 6 BB, 41 K, ERA: 3.75
Lavery: 6 G, 2 GS, 16.2 IP, 12 R, 6 ER, 4 BB, 8 K, ERA: 3.24
Erickson: 10 G, 9 GS, 54.1 IP, 35 R, 28 ER, 21 BB, 38 K, ERA: 4.63
Graves: No change
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on August 02, 2016, 10:41:42 AM
Former Pointer pitcher JP Feyereisen was one of four players involved in a deadline trade yesterday going from the Cleveland Indians to the New York Yankees in the deal that sent Andrew Miller to the Indians.  Also Ben Heller, a former Whitewater HS standout pitcher, was included in the deal following Feyereisen to the Yankees.  Earlier this season Heller had been getting mentioned as a possible addition to the Indians' MLB roster.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on August 04, 2016, 11:20:20 AM
Renz selected to participate in MLB Showcase....

http://www.dailyunion.com/sports/article_ff3c4096-5a41-11e6-aea0-0735a11d7216.html
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on August 14, 2016, 03:24:43 PM
When does the Lechnir vs. Oshkosh circus begin?  Will they sell tickets?  How many of the supposed rats (per Lechnir) will have jumped off the Oshkosh ship by the time this gets to court?  This will be interesting.  But not good for the community.  :-[
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on August 15, 2016, 12:11:11 PM
Rob Coe becomes the St Paul Saints franchise winningest pitcher.  The article also mentions ex-Stout Blue Devil Brady Burzynski who is also playing for the team. 

Cubs, Burzynski is the dude I thought might challenge for WIAC POY.  Unfortunately an injury causing him to miss the majority of the season derailed any chance of that. 

http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2016/08/coe-becomes-saints-winningest-pitcher
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on August 15, 2016, 01:01:01 PM
Northwoods League (Final)

Boushley (8-2): 10 G, 10 GS, 61 IP, 23 R, 20 ER, 7 BB, 47 K, ERA: 2.95  (Selected to post season All Star team)

Renz (3-0): 9 G, 9 GS, 44 IP, 15 R, 9 ER, 17 BB, 25 K, ERA: 1.84

Lavery (2-2): 8 G, 4 GS, 26.2 IP, 16 R, 10 ER, 10 BB, 14 K, ERA: 3.37

Erickson (3-4): 12 G, 11 GS, 68 IP, 42 R, 35 ER, 23 BB, 52 K, ERA: 4.63

Graves (0-0): 3 G, 0 GS, 8.1 IP, 7 R, 7 ER, 4 BB, 7 K, ERA: 7.56
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on September 13, 2016, 06:23:21 PM
UWSP takes a hit....Honorable Mention All Conference DH, Turner Doornink, has decided against playing baseball for atleast this season.  Point still returns a ton to the lineup along with a lot of pitching back.  I expect a better season than last year, how much better will depend on if they get some guys to step up into some bigger roles.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on September 14, 2016, 12:29:16 AM
To top it off I heard they only have 5 freshman recruits including 4 pitchers.  Popham is only recruited position player what is going on at point?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on September 14, 2016, 12:59:14 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on September 14, 2016, 12:29:16 AM
To top it off I heard they only have 5 freshman recruits including 4 pitchers.  Popham is only recruited position player what is going on at point?

I know they had plenty more than 5 freshman recruits, maybe they haven't made it on the team very long though.  Even if that's the case, they only lose 6 seniors off their roster.  Most of their lineup is still back along with some very promising pitchers.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on September 14, 2016, 10:21:05 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on September 13, 2016, 06:23:21 PM
UWSP takes a hit....Honorable Mention All Conference DH, Turner Doornink, has decided against playing baseball for atleast this season.  Point still returns a ton to the lineup along with a lot of pitching back.  I expect a better season than last year, how much better will depend on if they get some guys to step up into some bigger roles.
No surprise there....  Hardly played at all last summer which should have been first sign he lost interest in the game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on September 16, 2016, 02:42:39 PM
Regardless of allegiances, the WIAC baseball family is keeping this player in our thoughts.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/naperville-sun/ct-nvs-baseball-justin-wegner-st-0916-20160915-story.html (http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/naperville-sun/ct-nvs-baseball-justin-wegner-st-0916-20160915-story.html)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on September 17, 2016, 01:40:37 PM
Stay Strong Justin!!!!

#JWegStrong
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on September 18, 2016, 11:30:44 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on September 16, 2016, 02:42:39 PM
Regardless of allegiances, the WIAC baseball family is keeping this player in our thoughts.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/naperville-sun/ct-nvs-baseball-justin-wegner-st-0916-20160915-story.html (http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/naperville-sun/ct-nvs-baseball-justin-wegner-st-0916-20160915-story.html)

Indeed #JWegStrong
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on September 20, 2016, 08:48:43 AM
Quote from: AppletonRocks on August 14, 2016, 03:24:43 PM
When does the Lechnir vs. Oshkosh circus begin?  Will they sell tickets?  How many of the supposed rats (per Lechnir) will have jumped off the Oshkosh ship by the time this gets to court?  This will be interesting.  But not good for the community.  :-[
What happened now?  ???
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on September 20, 2016, 10:13:50 AM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on September 20, 2016, 08:48:43 AM
Quote from: AppletonRocks on August 14, 2016, 03:24:43 PM
When does the Lechnir vs. Oshkosh circus begin?  Will they sell tickets?  How many of the supposed rats (per Lechnir) will have jumped off the Oshkosh ship by the time this gets to court?  This will be interesting.  But not good for the community.  :-[
What happened now?  ???

I hate to respond to anything posted by the troll but just to clarify it for you I suspect he is referring to the pending litigation.   Lechnir filed a lawsuit against UW-Oshkosh and some of it's staff over his dismissal. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on September 20, 2016, 10:19:47 AM
Check out the renderings of the upgrades to James B Miller Stadium.

http://www.uwwsports.com/galleries/?tab=photogalleries

It's already a pretty nice facility by DIII standards but these upgrades will make it even better. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on September 20, 2016, 10:57:05 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on September 20, 2016, 10:19:47 AM
Check out the renderings of the upgrades to James B Miller Stadium.

http://www.uwwsports.com/galleries/?tab=photogalleries

It's already a pretty nice facility by DIII standards but these upgrades will make it even better.
Will be nice having a press box behind the plate, instead of on the line.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on September 20, 2016, 11:33:20 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on September 20, 2016, 10:13:50 AM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on September 20, 2016, 08:48:43 AM
Quote from: AppletonRocks on August 14, 2016, 03:24:43 PM
When does the Lechnir vs. Oshkosh circus begin?  Will they sell tickets?  How many of the supposed rats (per Lechnir) will have jumped off the Oshkosh ship by the time this gets to court?  This will be interesting.  But not good for the community.  :-[
What happened now?  ???

I hate to respond to anything posted by the troll but just to clarify it for you I suspect he is referring to the pending litigation.   Lechnir filed a lawsuit against UW-Oshkosh and some of it's staff over his dismissal.
When did this happen?  Last I heard was the case dismissed by a federal judge.  Isn't it over at this point?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on September 20, 2016, 12:38:42 PM
I hadn't heard that it was dismissed so maybe it is over. 

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on September 20, 2016, 07:23:14 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on September 20, 2016, 10:19:47 AM
Check out the renderings of the upgrades to James B Miller Stadium.

http://www.uwwsports.com/galleries/?tab=photogalleries

It's already a pretty nice facility by DIII standards but these upgrades will make it even better.
Is it just me, or does it remind anyone else of what UWO did about 10 years ago?  There appear to be a few "unique" differences, but for the most part a lot of the main concepts appear the same.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on September 21, 2016, 10:12:02 AM
Quote from: cubs on September 20, 2016, 07:23:14 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on September 20, 2016, 10:19:47 AM
Check out the renderings of the upgrades to James B Miller Stadium.

http://www.uwwsports.com/galleries/?tab=photogalleries

It's already a pretty nice facility by DIII standards but these upgrades will make it even better.
Is it just me, or does it remind anyone else of what UWO did about 10 years ago?  There appear to be a few "unique" differences, but for the most part a lot of the main concepts appear the same.

I think it's just you cubs.  ;)  :D

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on September 21, 2016, 10:20:44 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on September 20, 2016, 12:38:42 PM
I hadn't heard that it was dismissed so maybe it is over.
From Feb. 10, 2016

http://www.thenorthwestern.com/story/news/local/oshkosh/2016/02/10/judge-dismisses-uwo-ex-coach-lechnirs-lawsuit/80057844/ (http://www.thenorthwestern.com/story/news/local/oshkosh/2016/02/10/judge-dismisses-uwo-ex-coach-lechnirs-lawsuit/80057844/)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on September 21, 2016, 11:21:26 AM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on September 21, 2016, 10:20:44 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on September 20, 2016, 12:38:42 PM
I hadn't heard that it was dismissed so maybe it is over.
From Feb. 10, 2016

http://www.thenorthwestern.com/story/news/local/oshkosh/2016/02/10/judge-dismisses-uwo-ex-coach-lechnirs-lawsuit/80057844/ (http://www.thenorthwestern.com/story/news/local/oshkosh/2016/02/10/judge-dismisses-uwo-ex-coach-lechnirs-lawsuit/80057844/)

Honestly I haven't followed that closely since it was initially public.  The federal court dismissed the case because he couldn't file the same suit in both courts.  The state appeals court has ruled in favor of the university.  So it would seem that his only remaining option would be to file an appeal of the state appeals court's ruling with the state Supreme Court.  If they would even be willing to hear the case.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on September 22, 2016, 08:48:51 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on September 21, 2016, 11:21:26 AM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on September 21, 2016, 10:20:44 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on September 20, 2016, 12:38:42 PM
I hadn't heard that it was dismissed so maybe it is over.
From Feb. 10, 2016

http://www.thenorthwestern.com/story/news/local/oshkosh/2016/02/10/judge-dismisses-uwo-ex-coach-lechnirs-lawsuit/80057844/ (http://www.thenorthwestern.com/story/news/local/oshkosh/2016/02/10/judge-dismisses-uwo-ex-coach-lechnirs-lawsuit/80057844/)

Honestly I haven't followed that closely since it was initially public.  The federal court dismissed the case because he couldn't file the same suit in both courts.  The state appeals court has ruled in favor of the university.  So it would seem that his only remaining option would be to file an appeal of the state appeals court's ruling with the state Supreme Court.  If they would even be willing to hear the case.   

I think a lot of UW-O people would have been embarrassed by the truth in this case had it been allowed to proceed. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on September 23, 2016, 12:55:40 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on September 21, 2016, 10:12:02 AM
Quote from: cubs on September 20, 2016, 07:23:14 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on September 20, 2016, 10:19:47 AM
Check out the renderings of the upgrades to James B Miller Stadium.

http://www.uwwsports.com/galleries/?tab=photogalleries

It's already a pretty nice facility by DIII standards but these upgrades will make it even better.
Is it just me, or does it remind anyone else of what UWO did about 10 years ago?  There appear to be a few "unique" differences, but for the most part a lot of the main concepts appear the same.

I think it's just you cubs.  ;)  :D

Actually, rumor is that Tom Lechnir helped them design it and raise the money, just like he did in Oshkosh.  I assume someone paid him for it, unlike the folks in the UW-O lawsuit--Petra Roter, Darrel Sims, etc.  Turnabout is fair play.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on September 26, 2016, 03:26:58 PM
Speaking of stadiums and ballparks...  When will UWL be moving out of Copeland???
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on September 26, 2016, 04:32:52 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on September 26, 2016, 03:26:58 PM
Speaking of stadiums and ballparks...  When will UWL be moving out of Copeland???

Why would they? They signed a long-term agreement.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on September 26, 2016, 05:30:40 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on September 26, 2016, 04:32:52 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on September 26, 2016, 03:26:58 PM
Speaking of stadiums and ballparks...  When will UWL be moving out of Copeland???

Why would they? They signed a long-term agreement.
Wasn't the whole point of playing in Copeland because of renovations to their ballpark on campus???
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on September 26, 2016, 09:02:12 PM
No, I don't think that was the point at all.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on September 27, 2016, 10:30:16 AM
No, they're not doing any work on their on-campus field. That is strictly a practice field at this point. Copeland is their home for the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on September 27, 2016, 04:32:13 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on September 27, 2016, 10:30:16 AM
No, they're not doing any work on their on-campus field. That is strictly a practice field at this point. Copeland is their home for the foreseeable future.

Stuart Copeland could really bang the drums. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on October 11, 2016, 10:34:51 PM
Class of 2017 OF Zach Campbell has committed to play at Whitewater.  He was a member of the Division 1 State Champion Burlington team.  Very good get for the Warhawks.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on October 14, 2016, 10:33:36 AM
Who don't they get it's getting very old.  When is Point going to get an elite recruit?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on October 14, 2016, 12:12:27 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on October 14, 2016, 10:33:36 AM
Who don't they get it's getting very old.  When is Point going to get an elite recruit?

What is getting old is your responses, Point gets plenty of elite recruits year in and year out...as does Whitewater.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on October 14, 2016, 05:13:05 PM
It's sure gotten Point real far.  I hope your not trying to insist Point is even close to being in Whitewater's league because the gap is very large.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on October 16, 2016, 11:27:18 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on October 14, 2016, 05:13:05 PM
It's sure gotten Point real far.  I hope your not trying to insist Point is even close to being in Whitewater's league because the gap is very large.

What I think is that Point returns as much talent as anyone in the conference this coming season.  They will have deep pitching and a young lineup that got a lot of experience last year.  So yes, next season I expect a very good year and right in the thick of a conference title for UWSP next season.

Your MO is always doom and gloom with UWSP.  Whitewater, La Crosse, Oshkosh and Point will always get elite recruits..the WIAC is an extremely tough conference.  There will be up and down years.  Whitewater has had it rolling lately, along with La Crosse.  If you think Whitewater is untouchable, go follow them and spare us your repetitive posts.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on October 16, 2016, 02:06:37 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on October 16, 2016, 11:27:18 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on October 14, 2016, 05:13:05 PM
It's sure gotten Point real far.  I hope your not trying to insist Point is even close to being in Whitewater's league because the gap is very large.

What I think is that Point returns as much talent as anyone in the conference this coming season.  They will have deep pitching and a young lineup that got a lot of experience last year.  So yes, next season I expect a very good year and right in the thick of a conference title for UWSP next season.

Your MO is always doom and gloom with UWSP.  Whitewater, La Crosse, Oshkosh and Point will always get elite recruits..the WIAC is an extremely tough conference.  There will be up and down years.  Whitewater has had it rolling lately, along with La Crosse.  If you think Whitewater is untouchable, go follow them and spare us your repetitive posts.

Please don't do that Shine.  Your chicken little take on Point is simply too entertaining.     
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on October 17, 2016, 01:29:45 PM
I guess my point is it feels like whitewater owns point right now. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on October 17, 2016, 02:28:16 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on October 17, 2016, 01:29:45 PM
I guess my point is it feels like whitewater owns point right now.
No different that UWO owning the entire WSUC/WIAC for a long time, and then in just a matter of three years they finished with a losing record....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on October 17, 2016, 02:40:47 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on October 17, 2016, 01:29:45 PM
I guess my point is it feels like whitewater owns point right now. 

While it's true we were owning Point in the 2013 and 2014 seasons (7-2) in past two seasons (2015 & 2016) the WARHAWKS are 6-5 vs the Pointers.  Admittedly it was 3-1 last year but the Pointers were 4-3 the year before.  I'm not sure that I would call an advantage in one season "own(ing)" anyone.  That could reverse itself this coming season.  But your tendency to over react to the short term is well documented. 

Of course it all depends on your definition of "owning" someone.  To me owning some one is what we're doing to Platteville in football right now by winning the past 12 straight. 

O
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on October 18, 2016, 06:05:11 PM
2017 LHP Jonah Landowski of Oconomowoc will pursue his baseball career at Oshkosh.  This is a commit that Oshkosh can build their 2017 class around, I expect him to be in the rotation very early in his career.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on October 25, 2016, 02:55:13 PM
2017 OF Eric Modaff, from Oregon WI, will continue his baseball career at Oshkosh.  Another solid get for the Titan program.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on November 01, 2016, 06:50:59 PM
2017 SS from Waterford Union, Matt Korman, has committed to play baseball for the Whitewater Warhawks.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on November 06, 2016, 11:26:02 AM
2017 RHP Charlie Peterson from Waukesha South will play baseball at UW-La Crosse.  He's regularly been clocked in the mid-80s so has some great potential. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on November 18, 2016, 11:17:17 PM
Is anyone going to uwsp?  This site can make a guy very depressed.  There's never anyone posting this guy is going to uwsp.  Rich keep getting richer.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on November 22, 2016, 12:38:33 PM
Minnesota pitcher just committed to UW-LaCrosse... Josh Barker (Anoka, MN/ Anoka HS) 5-0 0.37 ERA in the NorthWest Suburban Conference, which is full of top players. Impressive stats.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on November 28, 2016, 11:52:36 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on November 18, 2016, 11:17:17 PM
Is anyone going to uwsp?  This site can make a guy very depressed.  There's never anyone posting this guy is going to uwsp.  Rich keep getting richer.
Just because there isn't anyone in the loop to share who is going to UWSP doesn't mean that there aren't any good players going to UWSP.  Besides, does it really even matter?  Yes, I understand the importance of recruiting but the actual commitment process.  It's D3.  Guys can bolt any time they want.  It's not like these guys are signing LOIs.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on November 28, 2016, 02:29:03 PM
You're new TD and it will probably take you some time before you understand Shine Time is chicken little. ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on November 28, 2016, 04:49:45 PM
I was told this weekend that John popham from Waupaca is the only field position player they recruited that could see the field.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on November 29, 2016, 09:35:55 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on November 28, 2016, 04:49:45 PM
I was told this weekend that John popham from Waupaca is the only field position player they recruited that could see the field.

That's not much of a surprise considering how much of their lineup from last season is back.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on November 29, 2016, 11:56:59 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on November 29, 2016, 09:35:55 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on November 28, 2016, 04:49:45 PM
I was told this weekend that John popham from Waupaca is the only field position player they recruited that could see the field.
That's not much of a surprise considering how much of their lineup from last season is back.
Which brings up the age old question of would you rather return a large group of guys who put up offensive numbers that ranked in the bottom half of the WIAC last season, or would you rather turn to some "new" hitters whose talents might be better than what returns?

Time will tell.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on November 29, 2016, 03:46:14 PM
That's a tough call as, though they return many hitters from sub-par lineup, one would assume they'd be better at the plate, but also if they haven't fixed what exposed them in the first place, it is a useless winter. I usually look at hitters' in and out of conference numbers to see how well conference foes attack them as they have seen them for 30-50 ABs by the time they are seniors.

Many mediocre hitters pile up huge numbers vs non-conference teams only to struggle in conference.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on December 06, 2016, 09:55:11 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on November 29, 2016, 03:46:14 PM
That's a tough call as, though they return many hitters from sub-par lineup, one would assume they'd be better at the plate, but also if they haven't fixed what exposed them in the first place, it is a useless winter. I usually look at hitters' in and out of conference numbers to see how well conference foes attack them as they have seen them for 30-50 ABs by the time they are seniors.

Many mediocre hitters pile up huge numbers vs non-conference teams only to struggle in conference.
Couldn't agree with you more!!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on December 12, 2016, 03:01:30 PM
Class of 2017 Westosha Central OF, Trent Jones, has committed to play baseball at UWSP.  Haven't done any checking on him, might try to do that later.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on December 13, 2016, 02:48:41 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on December 12, 2016, 03:01:30 PM
Class of 2017 Westosha Central OF, Trent Jones, has committed to play baseball at UWSP.  Haven't done any checking on him, might try to do that later.

Don't worry about it. I imagine ShineTime is already on his way to his house.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on December 13, 2016, 03:17:40 PM
All I can say is finally at this point.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on December 13, 2016, 03:32:30 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on December 13, 2016, 03:17:40 PM
All I can say is finally at this point.

You realize that this is just the only commit that we have seen made public, right??  I'd be willing to bet that they have a handful of other players that have made their intentions known to the staff, just haven't gone public with the info.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on December 13, 2016, 05:37:04 PM
I would sure hope so because if they plan on winning the wiac with the same group they had last year they are dreaming. I feel almost every position should be up for grab other than perhaps short.  I realize the pitching staff could be dominant but u still need to put up 4 or more per game regardless to win in the wiac
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on December 15, 2016, 12:37:33 PM
For those of you that play Fantasy Football and follow WIAC baseball, you might notice a familiar name in Matthew Berry's "Love/Hate" column last week....

http://www.espn.com/fantasy/football/story/_/page/TMRlovehate161208/fantasy-football-picks-sleepers-busts-week-14
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on December 19, 2016, 08:47:06 AM
Quote from: cubs on December 15, 2016, 12:37:33 PM
For those of you that play Fantasy Football and follow WIAC baseball, you might notice a familiar name in Matthew Berry's "Love/Hate" column last week....

http://www.espn.com/fantasy/football/story/_/page/TMRlovehate161208/fantasy-football-picks-sleepers-busts-week-14
Coach Jewell...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on December 19, 2016, 06:38:25 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on December 13, 2016, 05:37:04 PM
I would sure hope so because if they plan on winning the wiac with the same group they had last year they are dreaming. I feel almost every position should be up for grab other than perhaps short.  I realize the pitching staff could be dominant but u still need to put up 4 or more per game regardless to win in the wiac

I have not been counting on them to win the WIAC.  In fact, it didn't even enter my mind. Too much time spent following the Lechnir story at Oshkosh. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on January 07, 2017, 02:48:32 PM
UW-WHITEWATER selected to host 2017 Midwest Regional
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on January 09, 2017, 09:37:38 AM
The announcement says the Midwest Regional will be either a 6 or 8-team format. Has it been 6 teams in recent history?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on January 09, 2017, 09:45:07 AM
Yes

It's been both when we have hosted.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on January 09, 2017, 10:30:15 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on January 09, 2017, 09:45:07 AM
Yes

It's been both when we have hosted.

The tournament has expanded a couple of teams since Whitewater last hosted. The last two Midwest Regionals (hosted by UWL) had eight teams. Last year, there were 4 six-team regionals and 4 eight-team regionals. It really depends on the geographic location of who qualifies. So, could go either way.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on January 09, 2017, 01:06:29 PM
The WIAC has found an affiliate member for baseball to make it a seven-team league again, beginning in 2018...

http://www.wiacsports.com/news/2017/1/9/BB_0109172736.aspx
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on January 09, 2017, 04:41:37 PM
You beat me to it Bill.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 10, 2017, 08:45:38 AM
Will Illinois Tech be competitive in the WIAC? This has the feeling of a Power Five football school scheduling a cupcake early in the season to build its resume. Maybe I am wrong, but Illinois Tech doesn't feel like a good match in the WIAC.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on January 10, 2017, 10:13:19 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on January 10, 2017, 08:45:38 AM
Will Illinois Tech be competitive in the WIAC? This has the feeling of a Power Five football school scheduling a cupcake early in the season to build its resume. Maybe I am wrong, but Illinois Tech doesn't feel like a good match in the WIAC.
It's not a good match, it's just mutually convenient. WIAC needs a seventh team to keep their AQ, IIT needs any kind of conference affiliation they can get to increase their legitimacy as they grow their athletics program. WIAC did the same thing a few years ago when they added Finlandia for men's soccer.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on January 13, 2017, 08:19:56 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on January 10, 2017, 10:13:19 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on January 10, 2017, 08:45:38 AM
Will Illinois Tech be competitive in the WIAC? This has the feeling of a Power Five football school scheduling a cupcake early in the season to build its resume. Maybe I am wrong, but Illinois Tech doesn't feel like a good match in the WIAC.
It's not a good match, it's just mutually convenient. WIAC needs a seventh team to keep their AQ, IIT needs any kind of conference affiliation they can get to increase their legitimacy as they grow their athletics program. WIAC did the same thing a few years ago when they added Finlandia for men's soccer.

Adding a cupcake school to any conference just hurts the SOS and makes the AQ harder.  Hopefully Illinois Tech will improve with the competition.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on January 13, 2017, 09:49:58 PM
It isn't like there are other programs standing in line and beating down our doors to join.  We need a seventh team to maintain our AQ though I don't know that it's as important in baseball as it is in some other sports.  Illinois Tech isn't a good match but they're willing.  If Saint Scholastica, for example, had been willing I'm pretty sure we would have welcomed them. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 17, 2017, 09:26:56 AM
CSS would be a great fit for baseball, but why would they WANT to join if they can win the UMAC 17 straight seasons and gain that bid?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on January 17, 2017, 10:35:01 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on January 17, 2017, 09:26:56 AM
CSS would be a great fit for baseball, but why would they WANT to join if they can win the UMAC 17 straight seasons and gain that bid?

I can't think of a single good reason they'd want to join the WIAC.  My point, essentially, is that Ill Tech isn't a good fit but at this point we'll take what we can get. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on January 18, 2017, 03:29:33 PM
Hmmm....  Those names look familiar from a different legal matter at UWO.  Looks like the Alumni Stadium ordeal might just have been the tip of the iceberg?

http://wbay.com/2017/01/18/uw-system-board-of-regents-suing-former-uw-oshkosh-leaders/
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on January 18, 2017, 04:31:54 PM
Quote from: cubs on January 18, 2017, 03:29:33 PM
Hmmm....  Those names look familiar from a different legal matter at UWO.  Looks like the Alumni Stadium ordeal might just have been the tip of the iceberg?

http://wbay.com/2017/01/18/uw-system-board-of-regents-suing-former-uw-oshkosh-leaders/
http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/759564/08-14-13-lechnir-statement.pdf (http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/759564/08-14-13-lechnir-statement.pdf)

Did anyone else catch this from back in November? Shortly after Dorsey stepped down from the Track and Field programs at UWO, the UWO Track and Field Twitter account tweeted out that link. The tweet has since been deleted but some saved the link.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on January 18, 2017, 04:52:57 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on January 18, 2017, 04:31:54 PM
Quote from: cubs on January 18, 2017, 03:29:33 PM
Hmmm....  Those names look familiar from a different legal matter at UWO.  Looks like the Alumni Stadium ordeal might just have been the tip of the iceberg?

http://wbay.com/2017/01/18/uw-system-board-of-regents-suing-former-uw-oshkosh-leaders/
http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/759564/08-14-13-lechnir-statement.pdf (http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/759564/08-14-13-lechnir-statement.pdf)

Did anyone else catch this from back in November? Shortly after Dorsey stepped down from the Track and Field programs at UWO, the UWO Track and Field Twitter account tweeted out that link. The tweet has since been deleted but some saved the link.
Don't think it is a coincidence that the "Biodigestor" was included in both Coach Lechnir's statement AND the WBAY link from today...  I have a funny feeling this isn't the end of this story.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 19, 2017, 09:23:37 AM
I think we all assumed there was much more to this story when it became clear that a lot of money was missing/diverted from the new stadium project. Still, I feel Lechnir will be a major player in this story before it is done.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on January 19, 2017, 11:16:31 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on January 19, 2017, 09:23:37 AM
I think we all assumed there was much more to this story when it became clear that a lot of money was missing/diverted from the new stadium project. Still, I feel Lechnir will be a major player in this story before it is done.
Didn't take WBAY long to connect the dots (although they might have been given some help!!!)

http://wbay.com/2017/01/19/former-uw-oshkosh-baseball-coach-not-surprised-by-lawsuit-over-building-funds/
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on January 21, 2017, 12:10:41 AM
Has anyone else heard that lechnir was given an astronomical amount of money from uw Oshkosh?  I would say it's deserving.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on January 23, 2017, 12:26:32 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on January 21, 2017, 12:10:41 AM
Has anyone else heard that lechnir was given an astronomical amount of money from uw Oshkosh?  I would say it's deserving.
I don't know what you believe to be "astronomical" and I have no specific knowledge, but I'm pretty confident in saying that's not true. Lechnir didn't win his lawsuit, and there's really no evidence that he would have won had it gone to a trial, so there's no reason to believe the UW System would have paid him a large settlement.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on January 23, 2017, 05:48:23 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on January 21, 2017, 12:10:41 AM
Has anyone else heard that lechnir was given an astronomical amount of money from uw Oshkosh?  I would say it's deserving.

I doubt that is true.  There would have been a nondisclosure clause in a settlement and Lechnir is chirping now so that would expose that payment if he did.  That is the best evidence I could see that he wasn't paid. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on January 25, 2017, 11:56:34 PM
Drive by his house or talk to people who've been inside he's not living the lifestyle he is on his salary.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on January 26, 2017, 08:56:26 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on January 25, 2017, 11:56:34 PM
Drive by his house or talk to people who've been inside he's not living the lifestyle he is on his salary.
Not a surprise that once again ShineTime is jumping to conclusions and wrong once again.... ::)

http://www.thenorthwestern.com/story/news/education/2017/01/25/ousted-uw-oshkosh-coach-lechnir-seeks-reopen-lawsuits/97040108/
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 26, 2017, 09:10:46 AM
Quote from: cubs on January 26, 2017, 08:56:26 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on January 25, 2017, 11:56:34 PM
Drive by his house or talk to people who've been inside he's not living the lifestyle he is on his salary.
Not a surprise that once again ShineTime is jumping to conclusions and wrong once again.... ::)

http://www.thenorthwestern.com/story/news/education/2017/01/25/ousted-uw-oshkosh-coach-lechnir-seeks-reopen-lawsuits/97040108/

This is not going to end well.... if Lechnir wins, does he get his job back? A settlement? Both? Neither? Any labor law experts out there that have an idea how this could play out?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on January 26, 2017, 03:29:30 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on January 25, 2017, 11:56:34 PM
Drive by his house or talk to people who've been inside he's not living the lifestyle he is on his salary.
Could be wrong but I believe his wife is a hospital director.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AppletonRocks on January 28, 2017, 02:00:34 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on January 26, 2017, 09:10:46 AM
Quote from: cubs on January 26, 2017, 08:56:26 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on January 25, 2017, 11:56:34 PM
Drive by his house or talk to people who've been inside he's not living the lifestyle he is on his salary.
Not a surprise that once again ShineTime is jumping to conclusions and wrong once again.... ::)

http://www.thenorthwestern.com/story/news/education/2017/01/25/ousted-uw-oshkosh-coach-lechnir-seeks-reopen-lawsuits/97040108/

This is not going to end well.... if Lechnir wins, does he get his job back? A settlement? Both? Neither? Any labor law experts out there that have an idea how this could play out?

Won't get the job back, would cause the UW to breach contract with current coach--double jeopardy.  There is enough smoke here that he might be smart to settle for some cash and move on....after all, he will, in some people's eyes, turn from villian to victim.  That is probably the best that can happen for Tom after all this.  He should send Wells and  Sonnleitner Christmas cards, that's for sure.  :o
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 30, 2017, 09:40:36 AM
I'd be curious to know when current Oshkosh Head Coach's contract ends and if the timing worked out (we all know this play out a while in the courts), if Lechnir would prefer the job back over a settlement?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on January 31, 2017, 08:35:37 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on January 30, 2017, 09:40:36 AM
I'd be curious to know when current Oshkosh Head Coach's contract ends and if the timing worked out (we all know this play out a while in the courts), if Lechnir would prefer the job back over a settlement?
All coaches get (or at least start with) a three year contract and then receive two year extensions. I would be willing to bet that Coach Tomasiewicz signed his extension last season and has two year remaining.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on February 01, 2017, 10:35:12 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on January 30, 2017, 09:40:36 AM
I'd be curious to know when current Oshkosh Head Coach's contract ends and if the timing worked out (we all know this play out a while in the courts), if Lechnir would prefer the job back over a settlement?

Virtually no one who sues to "get their job back" every actually takes their job back. There's usually too many hurdles and headaches for the employer to overcome, and the employee realizes how difficult it would be to actually go back to the workplace that you sued. So it almost always ends up coming down to a settlement.

The only one I ever heard of, was a teacher who was fired, but won his case. He was reinstated into his teaching job, but placed in a different school in the district because it was such an awkward situation. Even that didn't last, as I believe that he and the district agreed that he would continue searching for jobs until he found another.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 01, 2017, 09:46:48 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on February 01, 2017, 10:35:12 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on January 30, 2017, 09:40:36 AM
I'd be curious to know when current Oshkosh Head Coach's contract ends and if the timing worked out (we all know this play out a while in the courts), if Lechnir would prefer the job back over a settlement?

Virtually no one who sues to "get their job back" every actually takes their job back. There's usually too many hurdles and headaches for the employer to overcome, and the employee realizes how difficult it would be to actually go back to the workplace that you sued. So it almost always ends up coming down to a settlement.

The only one I ever heard of, was a teacher who was fired, but won his case. He was reinstated into his teaching job, but placed in a different school in the district because it was such an awkward situation. Even that didn't last, as I believe that he and the district agreed that he would continue searching for jobs until he found another.
Well, according to this article from today, it sounds as if the only way Coach Lechnir will feel vindicated is if he is back in the dugout coaching UWO again.....

http://www.thenorthwestern.com/story/sports/columnists/gary-damato/2017/02/01/damato-plenty-fight-left-ousted-uw-oskhosh-coach-tom-lechnir/97264972/?hootPostID=6123d9968a15ef6c5b289c0dde180316
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on February 01, 2017, 11:00:03 PM
Uwsp didn't get a single vote in preseason national top 25 poll anyone know the last time that has happened?  Is it safe to say point is no longer an annual national title contender?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 02, 2017, 09:18:40 AM
I am guessing that the UW-O fight is just beginning and sadly, the current coaching staff will be caught in the middle. I'd assume most of the big donors/alumni are loyal to Coach Lechnir and will support him in the event this case is re-opened.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on February 02, 2017, 10:08:01 AM
Quote from: cubs on February 01, 2017, 09:46:48 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on February 01, 2017, 10:35:12 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on January 30, 2017, 09:40:36 AM
I'd be curious to know when current Oshkosh Head Coach's contract ends and if the timing worked out (we all know this play out a while in the courts), if Lechnir would prefer the job back over a settlement?

Virtually no one who sues to "get their job back" every actually takes their job back. There's usually too many hurdles and headaches for the employer to overcome, and the employee realizes how difficult it would be to actually go back to the workplace that you sued. So it almost always ends up coming down to a settlement.

The only one I ever heard of, was a teacher who was fired, but won his case. He was reinstated into his teaching job, but placed in a different school in the district because it was such an awkward situation. Even that didn't last, as I believe that he and the district agreed that he would continue searching for jobs until he found another.
Well, according to this article from today, it sounds as if the only way Coach Lechnir will feel vindicated is if he is back in the dugout coaching UWO again.....

http://www.thenorthwestern.com/story/sports/columnists/gary-damato/2017/02/01/damato-plenty-fight-left-ousted-uw-oskhosh-coach-tom-lechnir/97264972/?hootPostID=6123d9968a15ef6c5b289c0dde180316

If that's what it's going to take for him to be happy, he's going to die a sad man. He may be right, he may win his case, he may squeeze every dollar and every apology out of UW-Oshkosh, but I'll go down that's he's never coaching there again.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 02, 2017, 10:12:22 AM
Quote from: Just Bill on February 02, 2017, 10:08:01 AM
Quote from: cubs on February 01, 2017, 09:46:48 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on February 01, 2017, 10:35:12 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on January 30, 2017, 09:40:36 AM
I'd be curious to know when current Oshkosh Head Coach's contract ends and if the timing worked out (we all know this play out a while in the courts), if Lechnir would prefer the job back over a settlement?

Virtually no one who sues to "get their job back" every actually takes their job back. There's usually too many hurdles and headaches for the employer to overcome, and the employee realizes how difficult it would be to actually go back to the workplace that you sued. So it almost always ends up coming down to a settlement.

The only one I ever heard of, was a teacher who was fired, but won his case. He was reinstated into his teaching job, but placed in a different school in the district because it was such an awkward situation. Even that didn't last, as I believe that he and the district agreed that he would continue searching for jobs until he found another.
Well, according to this article from today, it sounds as if the only way Coach Lechnir will feel vindicated is if he is back in the dugout coaching UWO again.....

http://www.thenorthwestern.com/story/sports/columnists/gary-damato/2017/02/01/damato-plenty-fight-left-ousted-uw-oskhosh-coach-tom-lechnir/97264972/?hootPostID=6123d9968a15ef6c5b289c0dde180316

If that's what it's going to take for him to be happy, he's going to die a sad man. He may be right, he may win his case, he may squeeze every dollar and every apology out of UW-Oshkosh, but I'll go down that's he's never coaching there again.
I would guess the odds would say the same thing....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on February 03, 2017, 02:45:54 PM
And here we go ...

http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2017/01/preview/midwest-preview (http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2017/01/preview/midwest-preview)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on February 07, 2017, 01:42:36 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on February 03, 2017, 02:45:54 PM
And here we go ...

http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2017/01/preview/midwest-preview (http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2017/01/preview/midwest-preview)
How much do the guys who write the articles actually know?

Bartelt stepped down as HC at Marian because he's the AD...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 07, 2017, 02:55:10 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on February 07, 2017, 01:42:36 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on February 03, 2017, 02:45:54 PM
And here we go ...

http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2017/01/preview/midwest-preview (http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2017/01/preview/midwest-preview)
How much do the guys who write the articles actually know?

Bartelt stepped down as HC at Marian because he's the AD...
They are volunteers, so some know a lot some not so much. In the past some of the mideast reviews have been very good (thanks spence(I believe you used to do the mideast)) Other years certain conferences have very little info posted. A lot of it depends on the time the volunteer puts into it. I am sure Jim Dixon will take any volunteers who know more.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 07, 2017, 03:19:34 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on February 07, 2017, 01:42:36 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on February 03, 2017, 02:45:54 PM
And here we go ...

http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2017/01/preview/midwest-preview (http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2017/01/preview/midwest-preview)
How much do the guys who write the articles actually know?

Bartelt stepped down as HC at Marian because he's the AD...

Writing those is a lot of time and research and not always having a connection to get the info. I walked away from writing the Central Preview as I didn't feel I had the time to devote to doing it properly... not that I don't follow the Central as closely as before as I am often reading scores/stories while on the bus heading home from a high school road game.

I know Jim would love the help if anyone is volunteering their time and efforts.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Westside on February 09, 2017, 02:18:47 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on February 07, 2017, 03:19:34 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on February 07, 2017, 01:42:36 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on February 03, 2017, 02:45:54 PM
And here we go ...

http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2017/01/preview/midwest-preview (http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2017/01/preview/midwest-preview)
How much do the guys who write the articles actually know?

Bartelt stepped down as HC at Marian because he's the AD...

Writing those is a lot of time and research and not always having a connection to get the info. I walked away from writing the Central Preview as I didn't feel I had the time to devote to doing it properly... not that I don't follow the Central as closely as before as I am often reading scores/stories while on the bus heading home from a high school road game.

I know Jim would love the help if anyone is volunteering their time and efforts.

Truth. On top of that, as someone that votes and writes for the West Region, so much depends on the schools that actually get us information. For the West this year, we had like... 10 schools total from the four conferences reply back with information. Heck, half the teams haven't even updated their rosters on their pages by the time the previews were written. And the d3 landscape changes a ton with transfers, injuries, early graduates, etc. that we have no access to. So it can be tough  :-\
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 09, 2017, 12:29:25 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 09, 2017, 02:18:47 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on February 07, 2017, 03:19:34 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on February 07, 2017, 01:42:36 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on February 03, 2017, 02:45:54 PM
And here we go ...

http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2017/01/preview/midwest-preview (http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2017/01/preview/midwest-preview)
How much do the guys who write the articles actually know?

Bartelt stepped down as HC at Marian because he's the AD...

Writing those is a lot of time and research and not always having a connection to get the info. I walked away from writing the Central Preview as I didn't feel I had the time to devote to doing it properly... not that I don't follow the Central as closely as before as I am often reading scores/stories while on the bus heading home from a high school road game.

I know Jim would love the help if anyone is volunteering their time and efforts.

Truth. On top of that, as someone that votes and writes for the West Region, so much depends on the schools that actually get us information. For the West this year, we had like... 10 schools total from the four conferences reply back with information. Heck, half the teams haven't even updated their rosters on their pages by the time the previews were written. And the d3 landscape changes a ton with transfers, injuries, early graduates, etc. that we have no access to. So it can be tough  :-\
Yes I learned long ago that if my school is not being covered by D3 baseball, it is probably because the SID does not reply to the inquiry and does not take advantage of the D3 page.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on February 09, 2017, 11:10:03 PM
I overheard a conversation last evening at the quandt and heard a credible person state the pointer baseball team will be lucky to finish 500.  I pray to god that's not true.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on February 10, 2017, 11:55:10 AM
And the Perfect Game preseason rankings have published. Interesting flip-flop on Whitewater and La Crosse.

https://www.perfectgame.org/Articles/View.aspx?article=13502 (https://www.perfectgame.org/Articles/View.aspx?article=13502)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on February 10, 2017, 01:43:31 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on February 10, 2017, 11:55:10 AM
And the Perfect Game preseason rankings have published. Interesting flip-flop on Whitewater and La Crosse.

https://www.perfectgame.org/Articles/View.aspx?article=13502 (https://www.perfectgame.org/Articles/View.aspx?article=13502)

I think this might be the best preseason ranking.  Of course it mirrors my ballot in the preseason Top 25.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on February 10, 2017, 02:26:23 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on February 10, 2017, 01:43:31 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on February 10, 2017, 11:55:10 AM
And the Perfect Game preseason rankings have published. Interesting flip-flop on Whitewater and La Crosse.

https://www.perfectgame.org/Articles/View.aspx?article=13502 (https://www.perfectgame.org/Articles/View.aspx?article=13502)

I think this might be the best preseason ranking.  Of course it mirrors my ballot in the preseason Top 25.

The difference in perspective for the two WIAC teams is noteworthy, but in general PG and D3B/NCWBA disagree on more teams (position, or even inclusion) than I would have expected.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on February 11, 2017, 09:07:21 AM
Given LaCrosse just graduated arguably the best senior class in their program's history and considering what we return I don't think the flip flop is that unexpected.  Of course this is just preseason speculation and personally I don't put a lot of stock in it.  I'd rather be ranked ahead of them in May. But it does make for interesting discussion.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on February 11, 2017, 01:01:10 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on February 11, 2017, 09:07:21 AM
Given LaCrosse just graduated arguably the best senior class in their program's history and considering what we return I don't think the flip flop is that unexpected.  Of course this is just preseason speculation and personally I don't put a lot of stock in it.  I'd rather be ranked ahead of them in May. But it does make for interesting discussion.

I agree with you completely. Frankly, I was surprised at the other rankings given the seniors who graduated from La Crosse and how many returners the Warhawks have. And you're right...the only ranking that matters is after Appleton.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on February 11, 2017, 01:30:47 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on February 10, 2017, 02:26:23 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on February 10, 2017, 01:43:31 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on February 10, 2017, 11:55:10 AM
And the Perfect Game preseason rankings have published. Interesting flip-flop on Whitewater and La Crosse.

https://www.perfectgame.org/Articles/View.aspx?article=13502 (https://www.perfectgame.org/Articles/View.aspx?article=13502)

I think this might be the best preseason ranking.  Of course it mirrors my ballot in the preseason Top 25.

The difference in perspective for the two WIAC teams is noteworthy, but in general PG and D3B/NCWBA disagree on more teams (position, or even inclusion) than I would have expected.

In the more established polls, voters give too much weight to the past performance. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 12, 2017, 10:06:28 AM
From past observations, the D3baseball.com poll is generally closer to reality of what will likely happen. Voters are generally much more plugged in than the national guys.

Still, I like Whitewater over LaCrosse.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on February 12, 2017, 10:35:35 AM
I think Oshkosh surprises and takes the wiac this year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on February 12, 2017, 11:39:24 AM
Thank you for not suggesting that WHITEWATER would go undefeated and win the national championship.  At least I don't have to read the nonsense that's gone on since in two forums.

breathing sigh of relief
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 13, 2017, 08:52:36 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 12, 2017, 10:35:35 AM
I think Oshkosh surprises and takes the wiac this year.

Explain. WW is loaded, LAX is very good and UWSP is still better than Oshkosh. Mix in the distractions(Lechnir issues and lawsuits) surrounding the Titans program and I don't see it happening. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 13, 2017, 09:32:54 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 12, 2017, 10:35:35 AM
I think Oshkosh surprises and takes the wiac this year.
I think you're nuts....  The Manawa Spurs have as good a chance of winning the BABA this year as UWO does of winning the WIAC.

UWO returns just two guys that had more than a handful of starts last year in Treml (3.72 ERA in 58 IP) and Sustacheck (5.17 ERA in 47 IP) and that just isn't going to cut it in the WIAC....  You aren't going to be successful consistently in the four game weekend series that the WIAC uses without some experienced arms.  UWO had six guys throw 20+ innings last season, and three of them were seniors.  Unless you can march out a trio like La Crosse did last season with Boushley/Kenkel/Lavery each weekend, you better have some quality pitching depth and I just don't see that at UWO.  (Notice I didn't even mention what the other teams in the WIAC ARE returning....)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on February 13, 2017, 10:02:47 AM
Quote from: cubs on February 13, 2017, 09:32:54 AM

(Notice I didn't even mention what the other teams in the WIAC ARE returning....)

I think this raises a good discussion point ... the rankings often just grab the names from the previous years' stats for top 1-2 pitchers and position players, without having the in-depth knowledge of who is really returning what talent. Folks on this board do have that knowledge, as well as understanding the intangibles and which players are under the radar.

I'd be interested to hear from the people here who have some of that insight.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on February 13, 2017, 04:45:13 PM
The manawa spurs no longer have a team so are you giving Oshkosh a zero percent chance?  I dont trust uwsp at all this year based on what I've heard last Friday I was actually given a serious prediction of last place in wiac.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 14, 2017, 07:57:46 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 13, 2017, 04:45:13 PM
  I dont trust uwsp at all this year based on what I've heard last Friday I was actually given a serious prediction of last place in wiac.


I am not even a WIAC regular and, even so, that might be the dumbest thing I have ever heard on these boards (and I hear a lot of dumb stuff as a high school teacher).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 14, 2017, 08:33:28 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 13, 2017, 04:45:13 PM
The manawa spurs no longer have a team so are you giving Oshkosh a zero percent chance?  I dont trust uwsp at all this year based on what I've heard last Friday I was actually given a serious prediction of last place in wiac.
Unless the trifecta of Washburn/Gasper/Mlodik or Glysch/Grater/Taschner are back in uniform for UWO, I would be shocked to see UWO competing for the WIAC crown.....  If they do, I'm not sure who that says more about, UWO or the rest of the WIAC.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on February 14, 2017, 11:04:42 PM
I can't see uwsp finishing last either just know the person is very knowledgeable and that's what he predicted.  I honestly don't see any way they finish top 3 however.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on February 15, 2017, 03:28:01 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 14, 2017, 11:04:42 PM
I can't see uwsp finishing last either just know the person is very knowledgeable and that's what he predicted.  I honestly don't see any way they finish top 3 however.
How can't you see them in the top three? I'd say it's pretty much a given that UWW is better but it's also a given that they'll finish ahead of Stout and UWP. That means they really only have to finish ahead of UWO or UWL (both of whom aren't locks to be dominant teams this year). I could make the case that UWSP, UWO and UWL could shuffle around from 2-4 in any order.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on February 15, 2017, 11:06:59 PM
Based on what they return which is essentially Erickson and their lack of recruiting or getting junior college transfers.  They were very mediocre last year and now lose doornik also and he was supposed to be one of the few bright spots returning.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 20, 2017, 10:15:12 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 15, 2017, 11:06:59 PM
Based on what they return which is essentially Erickson and their lack of recruiting or getting junior college transfers.  They were very mediocre last year and now lose doornik also and he was supposed to be one of the few bright spots returning.
I can think of years past where a guy who hit .281 and struck out in over a quarter of his at-bats the previous season might not even start the following year for Stevens Point, much less be a "returning bright spot."
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on February 20, 2017, 11:20:21 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 15, 2017, 11:06:59 PM
Based on what they return which is essentially Erickson and their lack of recruiting or getting junior college transfers.  They were very mediocre last year and now lose doornik also and he was supposed to be one of the few bright spots returning.

Do you know what their recruiting class includes??  A lot of times in D3 baseball recruiting, kids don't announce where they are going and thus people don't find out until the roster comes out.  Transfers happen at semester, like Luke Thomka last year...I would be willing to bet once the roster is on the Point website, their will be some names nobody new about. 

As far as bright spots, they have a ton of young kids returning that I expect to improve.  Ray Greco and Cole Erickson are stars...Stanicek and Diedrick are guys that I think are bright spots with playing well as freshman at the end of the season.  Pitching depth I've thought should be a strength coming into this season as well.  Guys like Ben Miller coming back, Spaeth had a solid year....that incoming freshman that greyshirted or whatever...want to say Zach Miller??  He had a lot of good things said about him.

WW is loaded, their preseason rankings are well deserved.  Point isn't any slouch though.  I'm looking forward to seeing them next week against St Thomas.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on February 20, 2017, 11:34:53 AM
WARHAWKS nonconference:

Minneapolis: St Thomas (DH), Concordia-Moorhead (DH)

Spring Trip: William Patterson, Webster, Rutgers-Camden, Southern Maine, Clarkston, Union

North: St Scholastica (H)(DH), Ripon (A)(DH), Concordia-WI (H), Milwaukee School of Engineering (H), St Norbert (A)(DH) and Benedictine (H)(DH). 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on February 20, 2017, 02:13:11 PM
WARHAWKS

Position players lost: Trent Diekvoss (OF), Dane Burman (C), Justin Wegner (C), Alex Hallenbeck (OF),
Pitchers lost: Curtis Morgan (RHP), Lake Bachar (RHP), Connor Hurst (LHP), John Olejniczak (LHP)

Position players returning (at least 10 starts):  Name, BA/SLG%/OB%, RBI
Daytona Bryden (OF): .400/.543/.497, 15
Cal Aldridge (IF): .398/.629/.472, 43
Steve Chamberlain (IF): .361/.420/.421, 27
Blake Fleischman (IF): .347/.568/.385, 38
Matt Wary (OF): .333/.441/.383, 12
Jordan Kuczynski (IF): .288/.346/.335, 30
Austin Jones (OF): .263/.381/.311, 4
Will Helbing (OF): .200/.318/.307, 13
Aaron Markley (IF): .240/.280/.361, 4

Pitchers returning (appeared in at least 9 games): W-L, ERA, IP, K-BB, OBA
Heath Rentz: 6-0, 2.42, 52, 40-10, .259
Mike Nompleggi: 2-3, 3.09, 58.1, 41-14, .234
Ankur Shah: 5-2, 3.13, 54.2, 11-32, .251
James Georgakas: 2-0, 1.80, 15, 9-5, .226
Riley Gruetzmacher: 0-0, 3.60, 10, 9-6, .302
Austin Jones: 0-1, 4.97, 12.2, 16-7, .235
Matt Langlie: 1-0, 6.97, 10.1, 3-5, .292


Note: This assumes those underclassmen eligible to return are returning.  I do not know that for a fact and I don't have any information on recruits.   






Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on February 20, 2017, 03:07:45 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on February 20, 2017, 02:46:05 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on February 20, 2017, 02:13:11 PM
WARHAWKS

Position players lost: Trent Diekvoss (OF), Dane Burman (C), Justin Wegner (C), Alex Hallenbeck (OF),
Pitchers lost: Curtis Morgan (P), Lake Bachar (P), Connor Hurst (P)

Position players returning (at least 10 starts):  Name, BA/SLG%/OB%, RBI
Daytona Bryden (OF): .400/.543/.497, 15
Cal Aldridge (IF): .398/.629/.472, 43
Steve Chamberlain (IF): .361/.420/.421, 27
Blake Fleischman (IF): .347/.568/.385, 38
Matt Wary (OF): .333/.441/.383, 12
Jordan Kuczynski (IF): .288/.346/.335, 30
Austin Jones (OF): .263/.381/.311, 4
Will Helbing (OF): .200/.318/.307, 13
Aaron Markley (IF): .240/.280/.361, 4

Pitchers returning (appeared in at least 9 games): W-L, ERA, IP, K-BB, OBA
Heath Rentz: 6-0, 2.42, 52, 40-10, .259
Mike Nompleggi: 2-3, 3.09, 58.1, 41-14, .234
Ankur Shah: 5-2, 3.13, 54.2, 11-32, .251
James Georgakas: 2-0, 1.80, 15, 9-5, .226
Riley Gruetzmacher: 0-0, 3.60, 10, 9-6, .302
Austin Jones: 0-1, 4.97, 12.2, 16-7, .235
Matt Langlie: 1-0, 6.97, 10.1, 3-5, .292
John Olejniczak: 0-0,6.98, 19.1, 14-11, .280

Note: This assumes those underclassmen eligible to return are returning.  I do not know that for a fact and I don't have any information on recruits.   

John Olejniczak was actually a fourth-year player last year; the roster listing was incorrect. He has graduated and is gainfully employed, which I'm sure we all celebrate.



Thanks for the correction.  I had thought that might be the case but went with the roster listing.  I'll correct my post.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on February 21, 2017, 11:47:40 PM
Let's be realistic who can come close to matching the talent on whitewaters team besides la crosse?  They will have a lot of short games this year as the other wiac teams may be awful this year unfortunately.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on February 23, 2017, 07:58:25 AM
Platteville opens today, La Crosse opens this Sunday, and Point on Tuesday, but final rosters have not posted online. It seems in previous years they posted on or around March 1 ... do all the WIAC teams post at the same time?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on February 23, 2017, 03:46:19 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on February 23, 2017, 07:58:25 AM
Platteville opens today, La Crosse opens this Sunday, and Point on Tuesday, but final rosters have not posted online. It seems in previous years they posted on or around March 1 ... do all the WIAC teams post at the same time?
With UW-Oshkosh's first game being next Friday I would be willing to guess that sometime in the middle of next week being the time that you see a final roster from them.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on February 23, 2017, 11:15:56 PM
Points roster is up looks like they got a d1 transfer who will pitch and they have a lot of arms.  No ray greco guessing he transferred to whitewater or d1 school.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on February 24, 2017, 12:27:20 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 23, 2017, 11:15:56 PM
Points roster is up looks like they got a d1 transfer who will pitch and they have a lot of arms.  No ray greco guessing he transferred to whitewater or d1 school.

Greco is still in school at UWSP, don't know why he isn't on the roster...maybe an injury??  No Luke Thomka on the roster either, anybody have information on him??
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on February 24, 2017, 09:42:03 AM
Greco tore his labrum and had surgery so obviously out this season.  Thomka also got injured but haven't heard specifics on the injury.  Terrible injury luck already for the Pointers as those are two very valuable guys.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 27, 2017, 09:06:04 AM
La Crosse opens the season last night with a split against St. John's..... 

Boushley picked up where he left off in 2016 scattering five singles through seven innings, however it wasn't good enough as SJU's Nick Noack no-hit the Eagles for a 1-0 victory.  A pair of two-out fielding errors is all that kept Noack from throwing a seven inning perfect game.

UWL was able to salvage a split behind the arm of Jameson Lavery in the nightcap as he throws seven scoreless innings and the Eagles get 3+ hits from Prissel, Heili, Schmitt and Stolzman for a 6-0 victory.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 27, 2017, 09:12:42 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 23, 2017, 11:15:56 PM
Points roster is up looks like they got a d1 transfer who will pitch and they have a lot of arms.
So Kawlewski pitched two years at Indian Hills and then pitched about 20 innings at Rhode Island in 2014-15.  It appears he didn't throw at all last season, so it will be interesting to see what he looks like after the lengthy layoff.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 27, 2017, 09:43:36 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 23, 2017, 11:15:56 PM
Points roster is up looks like they got a d1 transfer who will pitch and they have a lot of arms.  No ray greco guessing he transferred to whitewater or d1 school.
I had heard he transferred to a D2 in Illinois, but that is apparently different from what tomt4525 has stated so I have no idea....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 27, 2017, 09:48:57 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on February 20, 2017, 11:20:21 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 15, 2017, 11:06:59 PM
Based on what they return which is essentially Erickson and their lack of recruiting or getting junior college transfers.  They were very mediocre last year and now lose doornik also and he was supposed to be one of the few bright spots returning.

Do you know what their recruiting class includes??  A lot of times in D3 baseball recruiting, kids don't announce where they are going and thus people don't find out until the roster comes out.  Transfers happen at semester, like Luke Thomka last year...I would be willing to bet once the roster is on the Point website, their will be some names nobody new about. 

As far as bright spots, they have a ton of young kids returning that I expect to improve.  Ray Greco and Cole Erickson are stars...Stanicek and Diedrick are guys that I think are bright spots with playing well as freshman at the end of the season.  Pitching depth I've thought should be a strength coming into this season as well.  Guys like Ben Miller coming back, Spaeth had a solid year....that incoming freshman that greyshirted or whatever...want to say Zach Miller??  He had a lot of good things said about him.

WW is loaded, their preseason rankings are well deserved.  Point isn't any slouch though.  I'm looking forward to seeing them next week against St Thomas.
I don't remember seeing Diedrick on the roster.....

I am curious to see how the trifecta of greyshirts perform, in P Zach Miller, IF Jordan Carlson, and UT Angel Ramirez....  All three were pretty highly regarded coming out of high school.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on February 27, 2017, 10:56:10 AM
Quote from: cubs on February 27, 2017, 09:43:36 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 23, 2017, 11:15:56 PM
Points roster is up looks like they got a d1 transfer who will pitch and they have a lot of arms.  No ray greco guessing he transferred to whitewater or d1 school.
I had heard he transferred to a D2 in Illinois, but that is apparently different from what tomt4525 has stated so I have no idea....

He's still listed in the student directory at UWSP. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on February 27, 2017, 10:57:01 AM
Quote from: cubs on February 27, 2017, 09:48:57 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on February 20, 2017, 11:20:21 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 15, 2017, 11:06:59 PM
Based on what they return which is essentially Erickson and their lack of recruiting or getting junior college transfers.  They were very mediocre last year and now lose doornik also and he was supposed to be one of the few bright spots returning.

Do you know what their recruiting class includes??  A lot of times in D3 baseball recruiting, kids don't announce where they are going and thus people don't find out until the roster comes out.  Transfers happen at semester, like Luke Thomka last year...I would be willing to bet once the roster is on the Point website, their will be some names nobody new about. 

As far as bright spots, they have a ton of young kids returning that I expect to improve.  Ray Greco and Cole Erickson are stars...Stanicek and Diedrick are guys that I think are bright spots with playing well as freshman at the end of the season.  Pitching depth I've thought should be a strength coming into this season as well.  Guys like Ben Miller coming back, Spaeth had a solid year....that incoming freshman that greyshirted or whatever...want to say Zach Miller??  He had a lot of good things said about him.

WW is loaded, their preseason rankings are well deserved.  Point isn't any slouch though.  I'm looking forward to seeing them next week against St Thomas.
I don't remember seeing Diedrick on the roster.....

I am curious to see how the trifecta of greyshirts perform, in P Zach Miller, IF Jordan Carlson, and UT Angel Ramirez....  All three were pretty highly regarded coming out of high school.

Diedrick isn't on the roster this season...was told he's concentrating on getting into med school.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 27, 2017, 11:29:07 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on February 27, 2017, 10:56:10 AM
Quote from: cubs on February 27, 2017, 09:43:36 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 23, 2017, 11:15:56 PM
Points roster is up looks like they got a d1 transfer who will pitch and they have a lot of arms.  No ray greco guessing he transferred to whitewater or d1 school.
I had heard he transferred to a D2 in Illinois, but that is apparently different from what tomt4525 has stated so I have no idea....
He's still listed in the student directory at UWSP.
I wonder when/how often that directory is updated?  Could that be something where upperclassmen are transferred over from the previous year regardless of whether or not they step foot on campus the following year?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on February 27, 2017, 11:35:20 AM
Quote from: cubs on February 27, 2017, 11:29:07 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on February 27, 2017, 10:56:10 AM
Quote from: cubs on February 27, 2017, 09:43:36 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 23, 2017, 11:15:56 PM
Points roster is up looks like they got a d1 transfer who will pitch and they have a lot of arms.  No ray greco guessing he transferred to whitewater or d1 school.
I had heard he transferred to a D2 in Illinois, but that is apparently different from what tomt4525 has stated so I have no idea....
He's still listed in the student directory at UWSP.
I wonder when/how often that directory is updated?  Could that be something where upperclassmen are transferred over from the previous year regardless of whether or not they step foot on campus the following year?

It's updated every semester, if you're in school....you're listed in the directory. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 27, 2017, 11:50:47 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on February 27, 2017, 11:35:20 AM
Quote from: cubs on February 27, 2017, 11:29:07 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on February 27, 2017, 10:56:10 AM
Quote from: cubs on February 27, 2017, 09:43:36 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 23, 2017, 11:15:56 PM
Points roster is up looks like they got a d1 transfer who will pitch and they have a lot of arms.  No ray greco guessing he transferred to whitewater or d1 school.
I had heard he transferred to a D2 in Illinois, but that is apparently different from what tomt4525 has stated so I have no idea....
He's still listed in the student directory at UWSP.
I wonder when/how often that directory is updated?  Could that be something where upperclassmen are transferred over from the previous year regardless of whether or not they step foot on campus the following year?

It's updated every semester, if you're in school....you're listed in the directory.
Are you able to see if he was enrolled first semester?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on February 27, 2017, 11:54:40 AM
Quote from: cubs on February 27, 2017, 11:50:47 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on February 27, 2017, 11:35:20 AM
Quote from: cubs on February 27, 2017, 11:29:07 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on February 27, 2017, 10:56:10 AM
Quote from: cubs on February 27, 2017, 09:43:36 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 23, 2017, 11:15:56 PM
Points roster is up looks like they got a d1 transfer who will pitch and they have a lot of arms.  No ray greco guessing he transferred to whitewater or d1 school.
I had heard he transferred to a D2 in Illinois, but that is apparently different from what tomt4525 has stated so I have no idea....
He's still listed in the student directory at UWSP.
I wonder when/how often that directory is updated?  Could that be something where upperclassmen are transferred over from the previous year regardless of whether or not they step foot on campus the following year?

It's updated every semester, if you're in school....you're listed in the directory.
Are you able to see if he was enrolled first semester?

Yes, he was enrolled first semester this year as well.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BDB on February 27, 2017, 02:24:08 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5sb-UyXEAAPjt3.jpg)

Blue Devils playing a double header vs. Bethel at US Bank stadium today.

(click pic to enlarge)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on February 27, 2017, 06:32:22 PM
http://athletics.uwsp.edu/news/2017/2/27/baseball-outlook-for-2017-season-bright-in-year-two-under-jirschele.aspx (http://athletics.uwsp.edu/news/2017/2/27/baseball-outlook-for-2017-season-bright-in-year-two-under-jirschele.aspx)

Season outlook for the Pointers....looks to have a deep pitching rotation as I expected, lineup looks differently than I would have guessed.

C Mrozinski, 1B Popham, 2B Rose, SS Iloncaie, 3B Duddleston, LF Stanicek, CF Thomka, RF Gerber----Corner infield looks to be manned by 2 freshman

Pitchers named in this article and looked to be relied upon are Erickson, Kawlewski, Zeihen, Mulzer, B Miller and Spaeth.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on February 27, 2017, 11:15:48 PM
I thought popham would play short with Greco out but at least he's on the field already I could see him having 400 career average or better.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 27, 2017, 11:28:01 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on February 27, 2017, 11:15:48 PM
I thought popham would play short with Greco out but at least he's on the field already I could see him having 400 career average or better.
I'll say he doesn't finish a single season with a .400 or better batting average, much less an entire career.....  Care to make a wager??
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on February 28, 2017, 08:25:48 AM
Warhawk roster is up. Handful of freshmen, but a lot of veterans.

http://www.uwwsports.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball (http://www.uwwsports.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 28, 2017, 10:39:33 AM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on February 28, 2017, 08:25:48 AM
Warhawk roster is up. Handful of freshmen, but a lot of veterans.

http://www.uwwsports.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball (http://www.uwwsports.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball)
Noticeably missing are a pair of kids from Oconto Falls, Riley Gruetzmacher and Evan Sigmund.  Be interested to see if Sigmund is "grey-shirting" or he chose to go to school somewhere else.

BW-Any details on Gruetzmacher?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on February 28, 2017, 12:04:17 PM
Quote from: cubs on February 28, 2017, 10:39:33 AM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on February 28, 2017, 08:25:48 AM
Warhawk roster is up. Handful of freshmen, but a lot of veterans.

http://www.uwwsports.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball (http://www.uwwsports.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball)
Noticeably missing are a pair of kids from Oconto Falls, Riley Gruetzmacher and Evan Sigmund.  Be interested to see if Sigmund is "grey-shirting" or he chose to go to school somewhere else.

BW-Any details on Gruetzmacher?

FWIW, Gruetzmacher is not listed in the online UWW Student Directory. Sigmund is.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on February 28, 2017, 02:17:12 PM
Point loses the first game 6-2 after having a 2-0 lead into the 4th.  Erickson looked solid but Point's defense was atrocious.  Duddleston at 3rd struggled mightily.  Nobody looked all that great at the plate and you include awful defense, that's what happens.

Kawlewski and Stodola both pitched an inning in relief and both weren't around the zone most of their inning.

If this is Point's best, they aren't going anywhere.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 28, 2017, 04:05:59 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on February 28, 2017, 02:17:12 PM
Point loses the first game 6-2 after having a 2-0 lead into the 4th. Erickson looked solid but Point's defense was atrocious.  Duddleston at 3rd struggled mightily.  Nobody looked all that great at the plate and you include awful defense, that's what happens.

Kawlewski and Stodola both pitched an inning in relief and both weren't around the zone most of their inning.

If this is Point's best, they aren't going anywhere.
Not sure I would go as far as saying Erickson was "solid," however he was probably the most productive Pointer in Game #1 as the offense failed to have any batter get multiple hits or even a single extra-base hit.  Erickson seemed to be in control the first couple of innings, but then allowed four hits and a walk the second time through the order.  It didn't appear as though he was "fooling" anyone.  He was pretty fortunate to get out of a bases loaded/nobody out jam in the fifth inning allowing just one run, but that is a sign of a good pitcher!

The bullpen needed to get six outs without allowing a run and were unable to do so..... 

St. Thomas leads the nightcap 7-3 in the Top of the 5th inning....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on February 28, 2017, 04:38:11 PM
Here are my predictions for the season...

Conference Standings:
1. Whitewater - Too much coming back on offense, defense, and pitching. They're going to be tough to beat.
2. Oshkosh - Lost a lot of pitching and some key bats but they have several juniors who are now in their third year of starting. Expecting many guys to either take a big leap forward or to bounce back from the struggles they had last spring. I expect the Titans to have one of the best offenses and defenses in the conference. If the pitching comes along they could make a run at UWW and the title. Will need to find an arm out of the pen to replace what Sabel was giving them at the end of last spring, a guy who could come in and seal the deal.
3. La Crosse - It's hard to replace the production that they lost offensively. They had some real studs swinging the bats. Pitching will be thin.
4. Stevens Point - If the pitching is healthy I think they'll have a hard time falling out of the top four. They have return a lot of bats but none that were overly impressive. Hard to replace a player like Hanke as well.
5. Platteville - Don't know too much about them but I think they've got more coming back than Stout. I think they've got the potential to crash the top four.
6. Stout - Late shake up in the coaching staff doesn't look good but who knows? Maybe it'll encourage the guys to play like they've got nothing to lose.

Bold prediction: Watch out for RHP Scott Gorsuch of UW-Oshkosh this year. Traditionally came out of the pen in the past. Could see significant innings as a Day 1 starter. Played in a tough league this past summer down in South Carolina. He's got the stuff to be a dominant pitcher in the WIAC but whether or not he has the command is another issue. Walks have been a problem for him in the past. If he keeps his walks down and is able to keep hitters behind in the count he could be lights out. He could be the type of ball player who comes out of nowhere this year and steals WIAC Pitcher of the Year and potentially puts himself on the radar of some big league organizations.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 28, 2017, 05:12:13 PM
UWO roster is posted.....

http://www.uwoshkoshtitans.com/sports/bsb/2016-17/roster

Will be interesting to see how successful Meissner is in the WIAC after spending his freshman season at the University of Illinois last year.  Looks like over half on the incoming freshmen are from across the border in Illinois.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on February 28, 2017, 05:19:05 PM
Quote from: cubs on February 28, 2017, 05:12:13 PM
Looks like over half on the incoming freshmen are from across the border in Illinois.

Coach T did his homework well throughout Northern Illinois and the suburbs when he was at NPU. He's probably still utilizing those existing resources.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on February 28, 2017, 09:32:52 PM
Well my credible source was accurate about point being awful this year however he hadn't told me Greco and thomka were out for year so I'm guessing that's why he figured that.  I just don't see a way that they can compete against Oshkosh whitewater and la crosse this year and I truly think platteville and stout will be around as good as point.  I didn't think bloom leaving would create such a drop off but my god it didn't look even average last year and this year may be far worse.  They need to get a recruiter.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 01, 2017, 08:04:37 AM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on February 28, 2017, 04:38:11 PM
If he keeps his walks down and is able to keep hitters behind in the count he could be lights out. [/b]

Can't disagree with this, but it could be said about every pitcher EVER.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 03, 2017, 09:44:41 PM
2017 Union Grove OF, Bradley Hansen, committed to UWSP.  He bats and throws left handed.  Looks like a good get for Coach Jirschele.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 03, 2017, 10:19:08 PM
About time they need a lot more skill players in general I remember not too long ago when pointers had 4 or 5 guys on roster that could barely see field that would've started for most other schools.  Just seems to be lack of star power and depth other than pitching.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on March 07, 2017, 03:05:38 PM
WIAC season preview:

http://www.wiacsports.com/news/2017/3/7/BB_0307171433.aspx (http://www.wiacsports.com/news/2017/3/7/BB_0307171433.aspx)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 07, 2017, 03:26:11 PM
Whitewater with back-to-back DH's up in Minnesota at the end of the week....  The Warhawks will essentially be playing four games in 24 hours as their first game begins at 4:30 PM Thursday, while their final game begins at 2:15 PM Friday.

Wonder if they able to sleep at the ballpark in order to save on hotel costs?  ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on March 07, 2017, 03:48:17 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 07, 2017, 03:26:11 PM
Whitewater with back-to-back DH's up in Minnesota at the end of the week....  The Warhawks will essentially be playing four games in 24 hours as their first game begins at 4:30 PM Thursday, while their final game begins at 2:15 PM Friday.

Wonder if they able to sleep at the ballpark in order to save on hotel costs?  ;D

A lot like that stretch in Sauget for regionals last season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on March 07, 2017, 03:48:40 PM
And the Warhawk season preview.

http://uwwsports.com/news/2017/3/7/2017-uw-whitewater-baseball-season-preview.aspx (http://uwwsports.com/news/2017/3/7/2017-uw-whitewater-baseball-season-preview.aspx)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on March 08, 2017, 03:30:05 PM
Oshkosh had a good, almost great, weekend to open the season in finishing 2-1 with wins over Transylvania (PA) and Adrian (MI) and a loss to #3 ranked Birmingham Southern College. Titans outhit BSC and made fewer errors but still fell 6-3. A win there would have looked really good come selection time.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 08, 2017, 03:44:58 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on March 08, 2017, 03:30:05 PM
Oshkosh had a good, almost great, weekend to open the season in finishing 2-1 with wins over Transylvania (PA) and Adrian (MI) and a loss to #3 ranked Birmingham Southern College. Titans outhit BSC and made fewer errors but still fell 6-3. A win there would have looked really good come selection time.
Transy is in Lexington, Kentucky. Thanks for the update!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 08, 2017, 10:48:11 PM
Was again told today that points 4th place prediction was pretty generous more than one person close to program have told me they see point finishing 5th possibly last and not winning many non conference games.  How has this happened?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 09, 2017, 09:39:17 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 08, 2017, 10:48:11 PM
Was again told today that points 4th place prediction was pretty generous more than one person close to program have told me they see point finishing 5th possibly last and not winning many non conference games.  How has this happened?
Well, Stout's offense isn't exactly setting the world on fire thus far, as they have scored 13 runs over their six games en route to a 2-4 start....

Is this where you tell everyone to watch out for Platteville again a la 2015?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 09, 2017, 09:51:32 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 08, 2017, 10:48:11 PM
Was again told today that points 4th place prediction was pretty generous more than one person close to program have told me they see point finishing 5th possibly last and not winning many non conference games.  How has this happened?

Actually at this point in time it hasn't happened.  They'll need to play some games first.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 09, 2017, 12:33:49 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on May 22, 2016, 03:53:23 PM

Oshkosh

Harrison Collar  3B  Appleton West
Johnny Duranso  OF  Arrowhead
Michael Hensel  C  Germantown
Jake Homan  RHP  Muskego
Kale Knaub  RHP  Port Washington
Grant Steinike  RHP  Cedarburg
Jacob Varick  RHP  Kettle Moraine
Landon Williamson  C  Marathon
Nick Lahrman  OF  McHenry West (IL)
Jack McEnroe  1B  Elk Grove (IL)
Luke McMahon  RHP  Oak Park-River Forest (IL)
Jacob Rintz  SS  Schaumburg (IL)
Dylan Rusniak  OF  Brother Rice (IL)
Kyle Murphy  OF  Cedarburg
Interesting to look back at this and see only three of the fourteen guys listed above on UWO's roster this season; Homan, Rusniak and Williamson.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on March 10, 2017, 09:21:28 AM
The Warhawks take two from St. Thomas on Thursday behind excellent outings from Jones and Wuetrich. Solid hitting up and down the lineup as players all seemed to settle in.

Two more today against Concordia Moorhead in a very chilly Minneapolis.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 10, 2017, 09:34:33 AM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on March 10, 2017, 09:21:28 AM
The Warhawks take two from St. Thomas on Thursday behind excellent outings from Jones and Wuetrich. Solid hitting up and down the lineup as players all seemed to settle in.

Two more today against Concordia Moorhead in a very chilly Minneapolis.
Depending on how things go this season, Whitewater might just be the biggest beneficiary of the whole fiasco as UWO, as Jones was set to attend UWO until the university decided not to renew Coach Lechnir's contract. 

http://archive.jsonline.com/sports/preps/focus-on-summer-baseball-b9940770z1-212865031.html

UP IN THE AIR: Wauwatosa West pitcher Austin Jones will no longer play at UW-Oshkosh since the program did not renew the contract of longtime coach Tom Lechnir.

"I've been looking at some Division I schools," Jones said. "I talked to Northern Illinois and there's a few other schools that kind of just come into play. I'm still exploring my options, but I'll be done with it soon."

One teams loss was another's gain!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 10, 2017, 09:51:33 AM
The WARHAWKS opened the season with a pair of wins over St Thomas by scores of 5-2 and 10-1.  St Thomas scored in the top of the first but the WARHAWKS responded with five unanswered runs before the Tommies scored again in the sixth.  Austin Jones got the win striking out six and holding the Tommies to 3 hits in 5.2 innings.  Mike Nompleggi pitched a hit less 1.1 innings in relief.  Cal Aldridge and Will Helbing each drove in a pair.  Helbing and Blake Fleischman each had a pair of hits and the WARHAWKS got extra base hits from six different players.  The Tommies duplicated their first inning run with a home run in game two.  But this time the WARHAWKS responded with ten unanswered runs while shutting out the Tommies the rest of the way.  Westin Wuethrich, a Madison College transfer, picked up the win striking out nine while allowing only the home run and two other hits in five innings.  Nompleggi and Michael Kaska each surrendered a hit in an inning of releif.  Nompleggi struck out a pair.  Five WARHAWKS led by Fleischman and Steve Chamberlain, who each drove in a pair, drove in runs.  Daytona Bryden, Brett Krause and Matt Wary each drove in single runs. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 10, 2017, 10:50:35 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 10, 2017, 09:51:33 AM
Westin Wuethrich, a Madison College transfer, picked up the win striking out nine while allowing only the home run and two other hits in five innings. 
While Wuetrich played at Madison College, he actually transferred from the University of Washington, where he appeared in five games for the Huskies last season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on March 10, 2017, 01:46:44 PM
Warhawks fall 2-1 to Concordia Moorhead in a pitchers duel.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 10, 2017, 01:48:53 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on March 10, 2017, 01:46:44 PM
Warhawks fall 2-1 to Concordia Moorhead in a pitchers duel.
Who threw for the Warhawks?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on March 10, 2017, 01:56:49 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 10, 2017, 01:48:53 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on March 10, 2017, 01:46:44 PM
Warhawks fall 2-1 to Concordia Moorhead in a pitchers duel.
Who threw for the Warhawks?

Shah six innings. Kaska one inning of relief.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 10, 2017, 03:20:23 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 09, 2017, 12:33:49 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on May 22, 2016, 03:53:23 PM

Oshkosh

Harrison Collar  3B  Appleton West
Johnny Duranso  OF  Arrowhead
Michael Hensel  C  Germantown
Jake Homan  RHP  Muskego
Kale Knaub  RHP  Port Washington
Grant Steinike  RHP  Cedarburg
Jacob Varick  RHP  Kettle Moraine
Landon Williamson  C  Marathon
Nick Lahrman  OF  McHenry West (IL)
Jack McEnroe  1B  Elk Grove (IL)
Luke McMahon  RHP  Oak Park-River Forest (IL)
Jacob Rintz  SS  Schaumburg (IL)
Dylan Rusniak  OF  Brother Rice (IL)
Kyle Murphy  OF  Cedarburg
Interesting to look back at this and see only three of the fourteen guys listed above on UWO's roster this season; Homan, Rusniak and Williamson.

That does seem like a huge number of kids not make it to the roster.  My guess is some kids are grey-shirting and some kids just didn't make the roster, maybe some changed their mind and aren't playing at all.  I didn't come up with the list, a website did and I just relayed the info to the board.

Also, the Ray Greco saga at Point can be put to rest.  Was told he's transferring to D2 Quincy University, they have offered him a scholarship.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 10, 2017, 03:21:27 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on March 10, 2017, 01:56:49 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 10, 2017, 01:48:53 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on March 10, 2017, 01:46:44 PM
Warhawks fall 2-1 to Concordia Moorhead in a pitchers duel.
Who threw for the Warhawks?
Shah six innings. Kaska one inning of relief.
That makes two straight years that Shah has thrown well in the month of March.  Will be interesting to see if he can carry it through to the postseason this year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 10, 2017, 03:23:54 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 10, 2017, 03:20:23 PM
Also, the Ray Greco saga at Point can be put to rest.  Was told he's transferring to D2 Quincy University, they have offered him a scholarship.
Correct...  Would have transferred this year if not for the shoulder injury.  Am guessing Quincy not too happy to hear he injured the other shoulder playing basketball forcing another surgery.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 11, 2017, 11:02:19 AM
WARHAWKS split losing 2-1 and winning 3-2.  Brett Krause's RBI groundout scored the only WARHAWKS run in the second inning and that run stood to the sixth when the Cobbers leadoff was hit by a pitch and subsequently scored tying the game. The Cobbers scored the winning run in the bottom of the seventh on a pair of singles.  Ankur Shah struck out six, walked one and surrendered one earned run on four hits in six innings on the mound.  Michael Kaska took the loss when he allowed two hits in bottom of the seventh.  Matt Wary and McCauley Cox each doubled for the WARHAWKS who were held to just five hits. 

The two teams each scored an unearned run in their first at bat of game two.  Cal Adridge doubled to drive in the WARHAWKS run and the Cobbers scored on a RBI single.  That score stood to the top of sixth when the Cobbers got a second unearned run to take the lead.  But the WARHAWKS answered in the bottom of the inning with pair.  With one out Cal Aldridge and Steve Chamberlain drew walks and both advanced into scoring position on a passed ball.  Both scored when Krause followed with a single.  Heath Renz earned the win after pitching all seven innings.  Renz allowed eight hits, all singles, while striking out four and walking one.  Led by Krause's pair of hits the WARHAWKS were held to five hits. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 11, 2017, 06:29:10 PM
Jones/Wuetrich/Shah/Renz looks to be a VERY formidable weekend rotation, with Nompleggi as nice option in relief for the Warhawks!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on March 14, 2017, 12:31:12 PM
If someone wouldn't mind indulging a pretty dumb question ...

WIAC = "why-ack" or "wee-ack"?

I have heard both.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 14, 2017, 02:33:19 PM
Both are used depending on who you listen to.  I call it the "why-ack" personally.   Feel free to use either interchangeably as you wish.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BDB on March 14, 2017, 03:17:40 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on March 14, 2017, 12:31:12 PM
If someone wouldn't mind indulging a pretty dumb question ...

WIAC = "why-ack" or "wee-ack"?

I have heard both.

Not a dumb question, been asked/debated before. My answer is Why-ack. Wee-ack references the state teachers union. (WEAC)

BW is right though, you hear both.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bulk19 on March 14, 2017, 10:33:51 PM
Not a dumb question, but an intelligent person says why-ack, as my elder, wiser WIAC counterparts {with whom I concur} badgerwarhawk and BlueDevil Bob do...   ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on March 15, 2017, 04:43:00 AM
Quote from: bulk19 on March 14, 2017, 10:33:51 PM
Not a dumb question, but an intelligent person says why-ack, as my elder, wiser WIAC counterparts {with whom I concur} badgerwarhawk and BlueDevil Bob do...   ;)

After reading these boards for the past few years, I would have to agree that's all the rationale I need.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on March 15, 2017, 09:48:24 AM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on March 14, 2017, 12:31:12 PM
If someone wouldn't mind indulging a pretty dumb question ...

WIAC = "why-ack" or "wee-ack"?

I have heard both.
Always said "why-ack" growing up. Once I arrived in Oshkosh everyone was saying "wee-ack." Now that I'm done I've gone back to saying "why-ack".
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 15, 2017, 10:05:57 AM
Sometimes I just say W-I-A-C and avoid the whole thing. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 16, 2017, 10:21:25 AM
A long I sound is "eye" like in file or smite and a short I sound is "ih" like in rip or his. Neither of them is a long E like in beam or cheat. So it doesn't make any sense at all to me, to pronounce the letter I like a long E.

I think it's undoubtedly why-ack. I'd accept wih-ack (although it's really awkward to say) before I'd consider wee-ack.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 17, 2017, 12:29:26 AM
What happened to uwsp today is umass Boston the real deal?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on March 17, 2017, 03:14:22 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 17, 2017, 12:29:26 AM
What happened to uwsp today is umass Boston the real deal?
Well, they just took down UWO with a walk off single in the bottom of the 9th today.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hockeyfan77 on March 17, 2017, 06:41:42 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 17, 2017, 12:29:26 AM
What happened to uwsp today is umass Boston the real deal?


Well they are predicted to win the LEC this year, so I don't think they are a pushover....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 17, 2017, 07:28:56 PM
Kawlewski is not the answer...struggles to throw strikes and when he does, gets hit around the park.  I haven't seen one reason why Jirschele feels he's the number 2 starter right now.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 17, 2017, 11:21:23 PM
Do they even have a 1 this year? It's going to be a very long agonizing season
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 18, 2017, 04:01:09 PM
WARHAWKS: 9
William Patterson: 7

The WARHAWKS opened the scoring in the top of the second when Brett Krause led off the inning with a triple and scored on a wild pitch.  Cal Aldridge's fly ball coupled with an error by the WP right fielder allowed the second WARHAWKS run in the third.  The 2-0 lead stood until the seventh when the WARHAWKS offense scored five runs behind six hits and aided by three WP errors.  Blake Fleischmann, Steve Chamberlain, Krause, and Jordan Kuczynski  each hit RBI singles and Chamberlain scored on a throwing error.  The WARHAWKS increased their lead to 9-0 with single runs in the eighth (throwing error) and in the ninth on Alex Dodd's ground out.  WARHAWKS pitching struggled in the ninth walking four including three consecutive loading the bases, allowing three hits and committing an error before getting the final out on a pop up.  Austin Jones (2-0) picked up the win throwing six hitless shutout innings while walking one and striking out ten.  Austin Finn allowed a hit and earned run with a walk and a strikeout in two innings before James Georgakas lasted only 0.2 inning surrendering 5 runs (3 ER) on a pair of hits walking three and recording a strikeout.  Mike Nompleggi recorded the final out though WP scored an unearned run on a single hit.   Matt Wary led the twelve hit WARHAWKS offense going 3x4 with a double and two runs scored.  Krause also had a multiple hit game with a pair in three at bats and scoring twice.  Jeff Szubert also doubled and scored a run.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 18, 2017, 04:43:45 PM
Webster: 2
WARHAWKS: 10

An eight run first inning sent the starter to the showers without recording an out and set the tone against 18th ranked Webster.  Aldridge and Mike Aiello (2) each singled to drive in runs while Helbing drove in a pair with a triple and Kuczynski hit a two run home run.  The eighth run scored when Krause drew a walk with the bases loaded.  Webster answered with a pair in the second inning on a pair of hits, a HBP, fielders choice and a ground out.  The WARHAWKS scored their final two runs in the sixth when Aldridge and Aiello both hit RBI singles.  Westin Wuethrich picked up his second win of the season pitching five innings, allowing four hits, a pair of earned runs with seven strikeouts and a pair of walks.  Ankur Shah allowed two hits and stuck out four in two innings of relief and Mike Nompleggi threw a 1-2-3 ninth striking out two of the three.  Krause (2x4, 2B, 2 RBI), Aiello (2x5, 3 RBI), Helbing (2x4, 2 RBI) and Kuczynski (2x4, 2 RBI) led the WARHAWKS who for the second day in a row pounded out twelve hits.  Aldridge also had an RBI
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 18, 2017, 05:53:38 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on February 28, 2017, 04:38:11 PM
Bold prediction: Watch out for RHP Scott Gorsuch of UW-Oshkosh this year. Traditionally came out of the pen in the past. Could see significant innings as a Day 1 starter. Played in a tough league this past summer down in South Carolina. He's got the stuff to be a dominant pitcher in the WIAC but whether or not he has the command is another issue. Walks have been a problem for him in the past. If he keeps his walks down and is able to keep hitters behind in the count he could be lights out. He could be the type of ball player who comes out of nowhere this year and steals WIAC Pitcher of the Year and potentially puts himself on the radar of some big league organizations.
Well Gorsuch faced two batters today and walked them both....  Looks like walks might still be an issue for him.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on March 18, 2017, 06:19:26 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 18, 2017, 05:53:38 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on February 28, 2017, 04:38:11 PM
Bold prediction: Watch out for RHP Scott Gorsuch of UW-Oshkosh this year. Traditionally came out of the pen in the past. Could see significant innings as a Day 1 starter. Played in a tough league this past summer down in South Carolina. He's got the stuff to be a dominant pitcher in the WIAC but whether or not he has the command is another issue. Walks have been a problem for him in the past. If he keeps his walks down and is able to keep hitters behind in the count he could be lights out. He could be the type of ball player who comes out of nowhere this year and steals WIAC Pitcher of the Year and potentially puts himself on the radar of some big league organizations.
Well Gorsuch faced two batters today and walked them both....  Looks like walks might still be an issue for him.
Word has it he's dealing with a shoulder injury from an accident which is why he hasn't made an appearance till today.  Most likely still affecting him.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 19, 2017, 06:23:55 PM
Rutgers Camden: 2
WARHAWKS: 7

With two outs in the bottom of the first the WARHAWKS got consecutive singles from Aldridge and Chamberlain before Krause triple to drive in both and score himself on a throwing error staking the WARHAWKS to a 3-0 lead.  Helbing increased the lead to 4-0 with a solo home run the following inning.  RC cut the lead to 4-1 in the third with a triple, single combination.  Brent Feldner's sacrifice fly in the bottom of the fourth matched that run and RBI singles by Helbing and Wary drove in two more in the sixth extending the lead to 7-1.  RC got their second run in the top of the eighth on a sacrifice fly.  Heath Renz scattered four hits over seven innings while allowing just a single earned run with a walk and six strikeouts for his second win of the season.  Finn gave up an earned run on two hits with a walk and strike out while Kaska issued a single walk as the two combined to pitch the eighth.  Nompleggi pitched a hitless ninth striking out a pair to finish the game.  Krause, the conference's player of the week, continues to hit well going 3x4.  Helbing (2x2) and Feldner(2x2) also had multiple hits.  For the third day in a row the WARHAWKS recorded 12 hits.

Southern Maine tomorrow.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 19, 2017, 07:46:20 PM
Four UWO pitchers combine to give up 26 hits, while the defense makes six errors in a 16-14 loss today in Florida....  UWO is still looking for their first win on the Florida trip as they are 0-3 over the last three days.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 19, 2017, 09:00:44 PM
Quote from: cubs on June 24, 2016, 03:54:17 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on June 24, 2016, 11:55:03 AM
Blashka will be their #2 next year guaranteed.
Care to make a side wager?  ;D
Still sticking with this ShineTime?  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 19, 2017, 11:08:07 PM
Someone explain to me how he's not please left handed upper 80s did he hurt his arm or what happened?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 20, 2017, 02:23:03 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on March 18, 2017, 06:19:26 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 18, 2017, 05:53:38 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on February 28, 2017, 04:38:11 PM
Bold prediction: Watch out for RHP Scott Gorsuch of UW-Oshkosh this year. Traditionally came out of the pen in the past. Could see significant innings as a Day 1 starter. Played in a tough league this past summer down in South Carolina. He's got the stuff to be a dominant pitcher in the WIAC but whether or not he has the command is another issue. Walks have been a problem for him in the past. If he keeps his walks down and is able to keep hitters behind in the count he could be lights out. He could be the type of ball player who comes out of nowhere this year and steals WIAC Pitcher of the Year and potentially puts himself on the radar of some big league organizations.
Well Gorsuch faced two batters today and walked them both....  Looks like walks might still be an issue for him.
Word has it he's dealing with a shoulder injury from an accident which is why he hasn't made an appearance till today.  Most likely still affecting him.
Gorsuch flirted with danger in both the 7th and 8th innings today, but was able to wiggle free both times stranding a runner at third with one out in the 7th and the bases loaded with one out in the 8th.  UWO tacks on an insurance run in the bottom of the 8th inning to defeat Washignton & Jefferson 4-1 as Gorsuch picks up the save striking out five and walking two on 47 pitches in 2.2 innings.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 20, 2017, 02:28:57 PM
WARHAWKS: 5
Southern Maine: 4

Wary opened the game with a triple and after an out Aldridge drew a walk.  Krause was hit by a pitch with two outs before Kuczynski singled driving in both Wary and Aldridge and the WARHAWKS were up 2-0.  SM cut that in half with a run in the bottom of the inning but the WARHAWKS matched that run with one in the second when Wary drove in Feldner who had walked, stole second and advanced to third on a strikeout.  The 3-1 lead stood to the bottom of the fifth when SM added another run on a pair of singles and a sacrifice fly.  Helbing's sac fly in the sixth drove in run making it 4-2 and Aldridge's single in the seventh drove in Wary who reached first on a wild pitch after striking out and advanced to third on a failed pick off attempt for the WARHAWKS fifth run.  With one out in the bottom of the inning SM struck with three consecutive singes scoring a run and sending Shah to the showers.  Nompleggi allowed an RBI single before recording the final out and the lead was one run 5-4.  After than Nompleggi pitched perfect eighth and ninth innings to preserve the win.  Shah got the win but allowed 10 hits, walked two and struck out four in 6.1 innings.  He was charged with four run, all earned.  Nompleggi picked up his second save of the season pitching the final 2.2 innings allowing a single hit and striking out three.  Wary was 3x5 scoring twice and driving in a run.  Kuczynski had a pair of hits and RBI.  Aldridge and Helbing each had an RBI. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on March 20, 2017, 03:54:01 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 20, 2017, 02:23:03 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on March 18, 2017, 06:19:26 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 18, 2017, 05:53:38 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on February 28, 2017, 04:38:11 PM
Bold prediction: Watch out for RHP Scott Gorsuch of UW-Oshkosh this year. Traditionally came out of the pen in the past. Could see significant innings as a Day 1 starter. Played in a tough league this past summer down in South Carolina. He's got the stuff to be a dominant pitcher in the WIAC but whether or not he has the command is another issue. Walks have been a problem for him in the past. If he keeps his walks down and is able to keep hitters behind in the count he could be lights out. He could be the type of ball player who comes out of nowhere this year and steals WIAC Pitcher of the Year and potentially puts himself on the radar of some big league organizations.
Well Gorsuch faced two batters today and walked them both....  Looks like walks might still be an issue for him.
Word has it he's dealing with a shoulder injury from an accident which is why he hasn't made an appearance till today.  Most likely still affecting him.
Gorsuch flirted with danger in both the 7th and 8th innings today, but was able to wiggle free both times stranding a runner at third with one out in the 7th and the bases loaded with one out in the 8th.  UWO tacks on an insurance run in the bottom of the 8th inning to defeat Washignton & Jefferson 4-1 as Gorsuch picks up the save striking out five and walking two on 47 pitches in 2.2 innings.
Five of his eight recorded outs were Ks. Maybe the bullpen suits him better similar to the way that it for a guy like a Matt Sabel from last year's UWO squad. Sabel had a tendency to get himself into a jam but work his way out of it. Gorsuch could be the same this season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 21, 2017, 12:40:00 PM
WARHAWKS: 3
Clarkson: 1

Behind a complete game by Austin Jones the WARHAWKS improved to 8-1 with a 3-1 win over Clarkson.  The WARHAWKS took an early lead with a pair of runs in the second inning.  After Helbing doubled and Kuczynski walked Aiello singled scoring Helbing and Kuczynski scored unearned due to a throwing error by the Clarkson outfielder.  Clarkson cut the deficit in half with a run in the third on a wild pitch.  The WARHAWKS added an insurance run in the fifth when Wary singled then advanced to third and scored on a pair of wild pitches.  Jones surrendered a pair of hits, an earned run while walking and striking out a pair for his third win of the season.  No one had more than a single hit as the team was held to just five Helbing's double being the only extra base hit by either team. 

Wrapping up their spring trip the WARHAWKS will play Union tomorrow morning.  Union was beaten by Elmhurst 24-1 yesterday as the Blue Jays pounded out 26 hits.     
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 21, 2017, 04:49:35 PM
WARHAWKS pitcher Austin Jones was last week's WIAC Athlete of the Week

Pitcher
Austin Jones (Wauwatosa, Wis./West), Junior Jones didn't allow a hit in six innings of work and surrendered only one walk while striking out 10 in the No. 6 Warhawks' 9-7 triumph over William Paterson (N.J.) on Thursday at the RussMatt Invitational in Central Florida. The right-hander was dominant in his 82-pitch outing, facing only 21 batters and forcing five groundouts and three flyouts.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on March 21, 2017, 09:08:01 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 21, 2017, 04:49:35 PM
WARHAWKS pitcher Austin Jones was last week's WIAC Athlete of the Week

Pitcher
Austin Jones (Wauwatosa, Wis./West), Junior Jones didn't allow a hit in six innings of work and surrendered only one walk while striking out 10 in the No. 6 Warhawks' 9-7 triumph over William Paterson (N.J.) on Thursday at the RussMatt Invitational in Central Florida. The right-hander was dominant in his 82-pitch outing, facing only 21 batters and forcing five groundouts and three flyouts.

And then today, he comes out and throws a complete game 2 hitter. Austin seems to be starting the season in good form!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 22, 2017, 08:35:59 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on March 21, 2017, 09:08:01 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 21, 2017, 04:49:35 PM
WARHAWKS pitcher Austin Jones was last week's WIAC Athlete of the Week

Pitcher
Austin Jones (Wauwatosa, Wis./West), Junior Jones didn't allow a hit in six innings of work and surrendered only one walk while striking out 10 in the No. 6 Warhawks' 9-7 triumph over William Paterson (N.J.) on Thursday at the RussMatt Invitational in Central Florida. The right-hander was dominant in his 82-pitch outing, facing only 21 batters and forcing five groundouts and three flyouts.

And then today, he comes out and throws a complete game 2 hitter. Austin seems to be starting the season in good form!
I wonder if Coach Vodenlich has sent some of the former administrators at UWO a "thank you" card yet?  ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 22, 2017, 10:12:38 AM
 

After walking the first batter in the fifth Jones retired the last 15 consecutive hitters he faced. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 22, 2017, 10:45:03 PM
Union: 6
WARHAWKS: 7

Union wasn't too difficult for Elmhurst to demolish but they gave the WARHAWKS all they could handle.  Things started very well for the WARHAWKS when Wary led off the game with a solo home run and both Aldridge and Helbing drove in runs with a pair of singles.  It continued that way in the fourth when Wary picked up a second RBI with a single pushing the lead to 4-0.  Meanwhile Weuthrich face only a single batter over the limit and that baserunner got on base via an error.  But Union cut the deficit in half with a pair of runs in fifth with a double and pair of singles.  In the sixth Union struck cutting the lead to 4-3 with a two out double.  Kaska replace Weuthrich in the seventh and Union was able to plate a pair taking their first lead of the game 5-4 on a bunt single which scored a runner from second base and a fielders choice groundout.  The WARHAWKS rallied a retook the lead 6-5 in the eighth with a pair of runs.  Cox singled to the pitcher scoring the first run and Wary came through once again with an RBI single.  Union wasn't finished however and tied the game in the top of the ninth with an RBI single.  The WARHAWKS opened the bottom of the inning with consecutive singles and looked to be in good shape.  However the nest two hitters were both retired before Kuczynski singled to load the base and bringing Randy Makuski to the plate.  Falling behind 0-2 Makuski was able to work the count full before being hit by a pitch and picking up the winning abeit lucky RBI.  The sixteen hit WARHAWKS offense was led by Wary who recorded 4 hits highlighted by the two extra base hits and 3 RBIs.  Aldridge (2x3, RBI), Helbing (2x4, RBI) and Borgardt (2x4) also recorded multiple hits.  Wuethrich went 6 innings giving up 3 runs, 2 earned, on 4 hits striking out 5  and walking 1.    Kaska struck out a pair but allowed 3 runs, 2 earned, on 3 hits in 2 innings.  Nompleggi picked up his first win of the season allowing a pair of hits and a earned run with a single strikeout and walk. 

St Scholastica comes to James Miller Stadium for a double hitter 3/29.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 22, 2017, 11:07:25 PM
Southern Maine had their way with uwsp today and swept a double header.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 27, 2017, 11:02:52 AM
Standings & Results (Thru 3/29)

WARHAWKS: 10-2
Lacrosse: 10-3
Platteville: 11-4
Oshkosh: 7-4
Stevens Point: 7-7
Stout: 3-10

WARHAWKS: St Thomas (W 5-2, W 10-1), Concordia Moorhead (L 0-1, W 3-2), Wm Paterson (W 9-7), Webster (W 10-2), Rutgers-Camden (W 7-2), Southern Maine (W 5-4), Clarkson (W 3-1), Union (W 7-6), St Scholastica  (W, 10-5, L 8-10)

Lacrosse: St Johns (L 0-1, W 6-0), Concordia-Chicago (W 6-2), College of New Jersey (W 6-4), Wm Paterson (L 4-5), Webster (L 0-4), Rampo (W 5-3), Southern Maine (W 4-2), Benedictine (W 10-5), Cornell (W 3-1,  W 10-2), St Mary's (W 4-3, W 7-3)

Platteville: Fontbonne (W 6-4), Buena Vista (L 0-10), Ripon (W 8-2), Stockton (W 5-2), McDaniel (L 0-5), College of New Jersey (L 7-8), Minn Morris (W 7-2), Eastern Connecticut (W 7-4), Western New England (L 0-3), Simpson (W 14-7, W 10-2), Northland (W 5-3, W 6-1), Marian (W 6-1, W 4-3)

Oshkosh: Adrian (W 8-4), Birmingham Southern (L 3-6), Transylvania (W 8-4), Mass-Boston (L 3-4), Eastern Connecticut (L 5-17), Clarkson (L 14-16), Washington Jefferson (W 4-1), Bowdoin (W 6-1, W 10-0), St Thomas (W 3-2), Union (W 6-1)

Stevens Point: St Thomas (L 2-6, L 5-7), Clarkson (W 6-5), Rampo (L 4-6, L 5-15), Westfield State (W 9-3), St Olaf (W 7-1), Worcester State (W 13-3), Southern Maine (L 4-6, L 4-6), Benedictine (L 1-11), Washington Jefferson (W 5-4), Ripon (W 6-1, W 15-14)

Stout: Bethel (W 1-0, L 0-8), Hamline (L 1-2, W 6-1), Augsburg (L 1-5, L 4-7), New York University (L 6-17), Wisconsin Lutheran (L 6-8), Skidmore (L 1-12), LaSalle (W 9-6), North Park (L 1-8), Western Connecticut (L 3-20), Edgewood (L 1-6)

WIAC: 48-30 (.620)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on March 27, 2017, 01:16:56 PM
UW-Oshkosh finishes their spring trip to Florida on a high note with five wins in a row putting them at 7-4 on the season. The 3-2 win over St. Thomas could look good on a resume if the Tommies (4-8) can turn it around in conference play.

I'm not really sure what to think of this Oshkosh squad after looking at the first 12 games. I think they're setting themselves up well for a strong conference season but it remains to see how consistent the pitching and defense will be. I think they have the offense to keep them in almost every game but they're gonna need more consistent pitching and defense to be a threat to Whitewater.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on March 27, 2017, 02:14:16 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on March 27, 2017, 01:16:56 PM
UW-Oshkosh finishes their spring trip to Florida on a high note with five wins in a row putting them at 7-4 on the season. The 3-2 win over St. Thomas could look good on a resume if the Tommies (4-8) can turn it around in conference play.

I'm not really sure what to think of this Oshkosh squad after looking at the first 12 games. I think they're setting themselves up well for a strong conference season but it remains to see how consistent the pitching and defense will be. I think they have the offense to keep them in almost every game but they're gonna need more consistent pitching and defense to be a threat to Whitewater.
Really wish I knew how to edit posts...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 27, 2017, 02:35:34 PM
While Point is 5-7, those losses are all to very good programs(I am placing Benedictine in that class due to Coach Adam Smith who led his CUC teams head to head w WIAC programs). They may be a bit down, but I wouldn't count the Pointers out.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 27, 2017, 03:36:25 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on March 27, 2017, 02:14:16 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on March 27, 2017, 01:16:56 PM
UW-Oshkosh finishes their spring trip to Florida on a high note with five wins in a row putting them at 7-4 on the season. The 3-2 win over St. Thomas could look good on a resume if the Tommies (4-8) can turn it around in conference play.

I'm not really sure what to think of this Oshkosh squad after looking at the first 12 games. I think they're setting themselves up well for a strong conference season but it remains to see how consistent the pitching and defense will be. I think they have the offense to keep them in almost every game but they're gonna need more consistent pitching and defense to be a threat to Whitewater.
Really wish I knew how to edit posts...
I think you need a minimum of 200 posts or something like that to gain the ability to edit.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 28, 2017, 01:26:02 PM
WARHAWKS outfielder Matt Wary is this week's WIAC Position Player of the Week....


Matt Wary (Elk Grove, Ill./Elk Grove), Sophomore, Outfielder
Wary led the team in batting average (.571), hits (8), runs scored (4), total bases (14) and runs batted in (4) in three games last week to help the No. 4 Warhawks to a 3-0 week in games played at the RussMatt Invitational in Central Florida. In UW-Whitewater's 5-4 triumph over Southern Maine on March 20, he finished 3-for-5 with a double, two runs scored and one RBI, posting a run-scoring single in the second inning and scoring what proved to be the game-winning run in the seventh. One day later, Wary registered one hit and scored a key insurance run on a wild pitch in the fifth inning of the Warhawks' 3-1 victory over Clarkson (N.Y.). On Wednesday, he posted four hits, including one double and one home run, and knocked in three runs during UW-Whitewater's 7-6 win over Union (N.Y.). Three innings after leading off the contest with his first homer of the season, Wary plated another run on a single, and added a go-ahead RBI base hit in the bottom of the eighth.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 28, 2017, 06:00:02 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on March 27, 2017, 03:36:25 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on March 27, 2017, 02:14:16 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on March 27, 2017, 01:16:56 PM
UW-Oshkosh finishes their spring trip to Florida on a high note with five wins in a row putting them at 7-4 on the season. The 3-2 win over St. Thomas could look good on a resume if the Tommies (4-8) can turn it around in conference play.

I'm not really sure what to think of this Oshkosh squad after looking at the first 12 games. I think they're setting themselves up well for a strong conference season but it remains to see how consistent the pitching and defense will be. I think they have the offense to keep them in almost every game but they're gonna need more consistent pitching and defense to be a threat to Whitewater.
Really wish I knew how to edit posts...
I think you need a minimum of 200 posts or something like that to gain the ability to edit.

That might come at 50 posts, but either way, you have a little ways to go.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 29, 2017, 11:29:17 PM
Uwsp dominates ripon today and takes a doubleheader. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 30, 2017, 09:27:22 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 29, 2017, 11:29:17 PM
Uwsp dominates ripon today and takes a doubleheader.
Your definition of "dominate" must be different than mine....  ::)

Ripon put up eight runs in the first inning of Game #2 and held a lead a lead all the way to the seventh inning until Point tied the game at 8-8.  After Point scored six in the eight inning to take a 14-8 lead, Ripon put up another crooked number scoring six in the ninth inning to tie it 14-14 before Point won it in the bottom half 15-14.

Seeing a team lead for one inning of a nine inning game seems to be the opposite of domination....  But maybe that just me?  :-\
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 30, 2017, 10:03:30 AM
Standings & Results (Thru 3/29)

WARHAWKS: 10-2
Lacrosse: 10-3
Platteville: 11-4
Oshkosh: 7-4
Stevens Point: 7-7
Stout: 3-10

WARHAWKS: St Thomas (W 5-2, W 10-1), Concordia Moorhead (L 0-1, W 3-2), Wm Paterson (W 9-7), Webster (W 10-2), Rutgers-Camden (W 7-2), Southern Maine (W 5-4), Clarkson (W 3-1), Union (W 7-6), St Scholastica  (W, 10-5, L 8-10)

Lacrosse: St Johns (L 0-1, W 6-0), Concordia-Chicago (W 6-2), College of New Jersey (W 6-4), Wm Paterson (L 4-5), Webster (L 0-4), Rampo (W 5-3), Southern Maine (W 4-2), Benedictine (W 10-5), Cornell (W 3-1,  W 10-2), St Mary's (W 4-3, W 7-3)

Platteville: Fontbonne (W 6-4), Buena Vista (L 0-10), Ripon (W 8-2), Stockton (W 5-2), McDaniel (L 0-5), College of New Jersey (L 7-8), Minn Morris (W 7-2), Eastern Connecticut (W 7-4), Western New England (L 0-3), Simpson (W 14-7, W 10-2), Northland (W 5-3, W 6-1), Marian (W 6-1, W 4-3)

Oshkosh: Adrian (W 8-4), Birmingham Southern (L 3-6), Transylvania (W 8-4), Mass-Boston (L 3-4), Eastern Connecticut (L 5-17), Clarkson (L 14-16), Washington Jefferson (W 4-1), Bowdoin (W 6-1, W 10-0), St Thomas (W 3-2), Union (W 6-1)

Stevens Point: St Thomas (L 2-6, L 5-7), Clarkson (W 6-5), Rampo (L 4-6, L 5-15), Westfield State (W 9-3), St Olaf (W 7-1), Worcester State (W 13-3), Southern Maine (L 4-6, L 4-6), Benedictine (L 1-11), Washington Jefferson (W 5-4), Ripon (W 6-1, W 15-14)

Stout: Bethel (W 1-0, L 0-8), Hamline (L 1-2, W 6-1), Augsburg (L 1-5, L 4-7), New York University (L 6-17), Wisconsin Lutheran (L 6-8), Skidmore (L 1-12), LaSalle (W 9-6), North Park (L 1-8), Western Connecticut (L 3-20), Edgewood (L 1-6)

WIAC: 48-30 (.620)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 30, 2017, 10:45:31 AM
Quote from: cubs on March 30, 2017, 09:27:22 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 29, 2017, 11:29:17 PM
Uwsp dominates ripon today and takes a doubleheader.
Your definition of "dominate" must be different than mine....  ::)

Ripon put up eight runs in the first inning of Game #2 and held a lead a lead all the way to the seventh inning until Point tied the game at 8-8.  After Point scored six in the eight inning to take a 14-8 lead, Ripon put up another crooked number scoring six in the ninth inning to tie it 14-14 before Point won it in the bottom half 15-14.

Seeing a team lead for one inning of a nine inning game seems to be the opposite of domination....  But maybe that just me?  :-\
Little Lookout Park rarely disappoints if you like a lot of runs.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 30, 2017, 11:08:42 AM
St Scholastica: 5, 10
WARHAWKS: 10, 8 (11 inn)

Austin Jones scattered 7 hits, surrendered 1 run (earned) and struck out 7 in six innings to pick up his fourth win of the season in game one.  SS took an early one run lead with an RBI single in the fourth inning but the WARHAWKS put the game away with 8 in their half.  Kuczynski and Borgardt each drove in a pair with singles, Wary tripled to drive in a run, Fleischman scored on a balk and both Wary and Helbing scored runs on wild pitches.  Chamberlain added a ninth run with an RBI single in the fifth.  SS got a run back in the seventh with an RBI double but the WARHAWKS matched it in the bottom of the innings with another RBI from Chamberlain.  Things got a little dicey in the ninth when SS opened the inning with a walk and single.  After a pair of outs a pair of doubles accounted for three runs.  Shah picked up a save pitching the last three innings.  The senior allowed 4 runs on 4 hits, walking and striking out three.  Chamberlain (3x4, 1 RS, 2 RBI) and Fleischman (2x4, 2 RS, 2B) had multiple hits while Wary (1), Kuczynski (2) and Borgardt (2) each drove in runs. 

SS used a pair of doubles and a single to plate two runs in the third inning and take the early lead in game two.  However the WARHAWKS responded with four in the fourth on a SS throwing error and a three run home run by White.  The 4-3 lead was short lived however as SS put three more runs on the board in the fifth when the inning opened single, single and a double on which the runner scored after a WARHAWKS throwing error.  As was the case with the WARHAWKS 4-2 lead the SS 5-4 lead only lasted until the next WARHAWKS at bat.  After the inning opened with a pair of walks sandwiching a single Aldridge's infield ground out score a run and Kucyzinski singled up the middle to drive in a pair staking the WARHAWKS to a 7-5 lead.  The WARHAWKS added an eighth run in the eighth with an unearned run on Aiello's ground out.  For what ever reason closing out either game yesterday proved a challenge for the WARHAWKS as SS scored three times on a double, throwing error, triple and a single and after the WARHAWKS stranded a runner in scoring position in the bottom of the inning the game went to into extras.  Both teams were retired in order in the tenth but SS scored what proved to be the winning runs with a pair in the eleventh on a single, double and a passed ball.  Chamberlain (2x4, 2 RS) and Borgardt (2x3) were the only WARHAWKS with multiple hits.  Aldridge (2), Kuczynski (2) White (3) and Aiello (1) each had RBIs.  Renz got the start and allowed 10 hits and 5 earned runs in 5 innings.  While he only walked a pair it seemed he was consistently behind in the count.  Renz struck out 3.  Nompleggi pitched a pair of hitless innings allowing only a single base runner due to a walk.  Wuethrich relieved him but stuggled giving up 3 hits (2 extra base) and 3 runs (2 earned) with a walk and a pair of strikeouts in an inning.  Kaska (0-2) took the loss despite striking out 6 in three innings.  Kaska allowed a pair of hits and runs (1 earned) walking one. 

The WARHAWKS travel to Ripon for a pair next Wednesday before opening conference play hosting La Crosse on the weekend.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on March 30, 2017, 01:26:08 PM
UW-La Cross took two from Saint Mary's (MN) yesterday. Games were a lot closer than I would've expected. I have a feeling that it has more to do with UWL being down than it does with SMU being that good.

SMU reliever Josh Hottinger (Oconomowoc native and UWO transfer) is off to a rough start (5.62 ERA in 8 IP). I'm sure he was a guy that SMU was counting on but it doesn't seem like he's going to be able to come through. He may get a chance to prove himself against UWO in their upcoming double header this weekend. I wouldn't bet on him getting the job done against this UWO offense though.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on March 30, 2017, 01:59:18 PM
This article about UW foundations might be of interest: 

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/questions-about-uw-foundations-loom-over-budget-deliberations/article_5eedbd4c-f4b7-5f2a-aa34-491492365165.html#utm_source=host.madison.com&utm_campaign=/email/breaking-news/&utm_medium=email&utm_content=4052E31A0D55A2E35D2DF7C8D7638A1010B99FE9
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on March 30, 2017, 02:02:42 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on March 30, 2017, 01:26:08 PM
UW-La Cross took two from Saint Mary's (MN) yesterday. Games were a lot closer than I would've expected. I have a feeling that it has more to do with UWL being down than it does with SMU being that good.

I thought that UW-La did lose a lot but it appears that the Eagles will be a fixture at the top of the standings.  The first test for a coach is to put together a team that is competitive, the second test is to continue that when the playes that brought you to the top start leaving.  UW-La's coach is doing just that.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 01, 2017, 07:42:43 PM
UWO gets swept in a pair of one-run games today in Duluth, losing 5-4 and 4-3 to St. Scholastica....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 02, 2017, 02:00:05 PM
Standings & Results (Thru 4/02)

WARHAWKS: 10-2
Platteville: 15-4
Lacrosse: 10-5
Oshkosh: 7-6
Stevens Point: 7-7
Stout: 3-12

WARHAWKS: St Thomas (W 5-2, W 10-1), Concordia Moorhead (L 0-1, W 3-2), Wm Paterson (W 9-7), Webster (W 10-2), Rutgers-Camden (W 7-2), Southern Maine (W 5-4), Clarkson (W 3-1), Union (W 7-6), St Scholastica  (W, 10-5, L 8-10)

Lacrosse: St Johns (L 0-1, W 6-0), Concordia-Chicago (W 6-2), College of New Jersey (W 6-4), Wm Paterson (L 4-5), Webster (L 0-4), Rampo (W 5-3), Southern Maine (W 4-2), Benedictine (W 10-5), Cornell (W 3-1,  W 10-2), St Mary's (W 4-3, W 7-3), St Scholastica (L 5-6, L 7-10)

Platteville: Fontbonne (W 6-4), Buena Vista (L 0-10), Ripon (W 8-2), Stockton (W 5-2), McDaniel (L 0-5), College of New Jersey (L 7-8), Minn Morris (W 7-2), Eastern Connecticut (W 7-4), Western New England (L 0-3), Simpson (W 14-7, W 10-2), Northland (W 5-3, W 6-1), Marian (W 6-1, W 4-3), Illinois Institute of Technology (W 6-4, W 3-2), Illinois Institute of Technology (W 14-10, W 10-5)

Oshkosh: Adrian (W 8-4), Birmingham Southern (L 3-6), Transylvania (W 8-4), Mass-Boston (L 3-4), Eastern Connecticut (L 5-17), Clarkson (L 14-16), Washington Jefferson (W 4-1), Bowdoin (W 6-1, W 10-0), St Thomas (W 3-2), Union (W 6-1), St Scholastica (L 4-5, L 3-4), St Mary's (L 1-4, W 8-3)

Stevens Point: St Thomas (L 2-6, L 5-7), Clarkson (W 6-5), Rampo (L 4-6, L 5-15), Westfield State (W 9-3), St Olaf (W 7-1), Worcester State (W 13-3), Southern Maine (L 4-6, L 4-6), Benedictine (L 1-11), Washington Jefferson (W 5-4), Ripon (W 6-1, W 15-14)

Stout: Bethel (W 1-0, L 0-8), Hamline (L 1-2, W 6-1), Augsburg (L 1-5, L 4-7), New York University (L 6-17), Wisconsin Lutheran (L 6-8), Skidmore (L 1-12), LaSalle (W 9-6), North Park (L 1-8), Western Connecticut (L 3-20), Edgewood (L 1-6), St Thomas (L 1-4, L 0-2)

WIAC: 53-37 (.590)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 02, 2017, 10:30:40 PM
St. Scholastica sweeps UWL. That's five straight wins over the WIAC for CSS if I'm counting right.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 03, 2017, 09:32:51 AM
Quote from: Just Bill on April 02, 2017, 10:30:40 PM
St. Scholastica sweeps UWL. That's five straight wins over the WIAC for CSS if I'm counting right.

5-1 vs the WIAC
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on April 03, 2017, 09:34:53 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 03, 2017, 09:32:51 AM
Quote from: Just Bill on April 02, 2017, 10:30:40 PM
St. Scholastica sweeps UWL. That's five straight wins over the WIAC for CSS if I'm counting right.

5-1 vs the WIAC

And those six games were played in 5 days and some lousy weather. They certainly seem very strong.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 03, 2017, 12:09:32 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 03, 2017, 09:32:51 AM
Quote from: Just Bill on April 02, 2017, 10:30:40 PM
St. Scholastica sweeps UWL. That's five straight wins over the WIAC for CSS if I'm counting right.

5-1 vs the WIAC

They have all but locked up a Pool C if they stumble in the UMAC (which is doubtful as they have won it 17 straight times). The UMAC will not challenge them... CSS will remain strong on the national stage as the playoff approach.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: therocket21 on April 04, 2017, 02:45:48 PM
CSS seems to be deeper on the mound than ever before. In previous years I feel that they were not able to compete with the depth that the WIAC teams possessed on the mound. This year, however, it appears they are comfortable in trotting out about 7-8 different guys to pitch against a quality team. This has (in my opinion) been the reason they could not beat a WIAC team when it came down to the regional finals.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 05, 2017, 10:02:02 AM
For the second time in three weeks WARHAWKS pitcher Austin Jones was named WIAC Pitcher of the week....

Pitcher
Austin Jones (Wauwatosa, Wis./West), Junior
Jones pitched six innings, allowing one run on seven his while striking out seven in the No. 4 Warhawks' 10-5 victory over St. Scholastica (Minn.) last Wednesday at Miller Stadium. The right-hander stranded six Saints base runners during his outing, which took 86 pitches to get through and included three flyouts and eight groundouts. With the win, Jones improved to 4-0 with a 1.35 earned run average for the season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on April 05, 2017, 12:14:13 PM
Was surprised to see UWO go 1-3 over the past weekend with a pair of losses to CSS and a split of SMU (MN). CSS seems to be the real deal but I think the Titans would've liked to see (at the very least) a split with CSS and a sweep of SMU. I watched the CSS games online and UWO played well overall. However, a few errors late in games and not enough timely hitting with runners on did them in.

I still believe that UWO finishes 2nd in the WIAC. Outside of UWW, nobody had a very impressive non-conference showing.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 05, 2017, 08:26:14 PM
WARHAWKS: 8, 9
Ripon: 2, 8

Michael Kaska allowed four hits and struck out six over six innings to pick up his first win of the season.  Kaska was relieved by Renz, Finn and Nompleggi who each pitched a single inning.  Renz and Nompleggi each threw hitless innings striking out one and two batters respectively.  Nompleggi allowed a pair of runs (one earned) on three hits with a pair of strikeouts.  Wary (2x5, 2B), Fleischman (2x5) and Kuczynski (2x5, 2B) had multiple hits.  Helbing tripled and drove in 3 runs.  Fleischman (1), Krause (2), Schneider (1) and Kuczynski (1) also drove in runs. 

The WARHAWKS plated a pair of runs in their last at bat to win game two.  Heilenbach started and struggled allowing 7 runs (6 earned) on 9 hits and walking a batter before being relieved by Shah after 1.2 innings.  Shah picked up his second win while surrendering a single unearned run on 3 hits and striking out 7 in 6.1 innings.  Jones pitched a 1-2-3 ninth striking out two.  Ryan Makuski went 4x5 with a pair of RBIs to lead the WARHAWKS.  Krause (2x5) also had multiple hits.  Aldridge (1), Borgardt (2), White (1) and Aeillo (1) recorded RBI.

The WARHAWKS open conference play with a four game series against Lacrosse this weekend. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 05, 2017, 08:30:46 PM

Standings & Results (Thru 4/04)

WARHAWKS: 12-2
Platteville: 15-4
Lacrosse: 10-5
Oshkosh: 7-6
Stevens Point: 7-7
Stout: 3-12

WARHAWKS: St Thomas (W 5-2, W 10-1), Concordia Moorhead (L 0-1, W 3-2), Wm Paterson (W 9-7), Webster (W 10-2), Rutgers-Camden (W 7-2), Southern Maine (W 5-4), Clarkson (W 3-1), Union (W 7-6), St Scholastica  (W, 10-5, L 8-10), Ripon (W 8-2, W 9-8)

Lacrosse: St Johns (L 0-1, W 6-0), Concordia-Chicago (W 6-2), College of New Jersey (W 6-4), Wm Paterson (L 4-5), Webster (L 0-4), Rampo (W 5-3), Southern Maine (W 4-2), Benedictine (W 10-5), Cornell (W 3-1,  W 10-2), St Mary's (W 4-3, W 7-3), St Scholastica (L 5-6, L 7-10)

Platteville: Fontbonne (W 6-4), Buena Vista (L 0-10), Ripon (W 8-2), Stockton (W 5-2), McDaniel (L 0-5), College of New Jersey (L 7-8), Minn Morris (W 7-2), Eastern Connecticut (W 7-4), Western New England (L 0-3), Simpson (W 14-7, W 10-2), Northland (W 5-3, W 6-1), Marian (W 6-1, W 4-3), Illinois Institute of Technology (W 6-4, W 3-2), Illinois Institute of Technology (W 14-10, W 10-5)

Oshkosh: Adrian (W 8-4), Birmingham Southern (L 3-6), Transylvania (W 8-4), Mass-Boston (L 3-4), Eastern Connecticut (L 5-17), Clarkson (L 14-16), Washington Jefferson (W 4-1), Bowdoin (W 6-1, W 10-0), St Thomas (W 3-2), Union (W 6-1), St Scholastica (L 4-5, L 3-4), St Mary's (L 1-4, W 8-3)

Stevens Point: St Thomas (L 2-6, L 5-7), Clarkson (W 6-5), Rampo (L 4-6, L 5-15), Westfield State (W 9-3), St Olaf (W 7-1), Worcester State (W 13-3), Southern Maine (L 4-6, L 4-6), Benedictine (L 1-11), Washington Jefferson (W 5-4), Ripon (W 6-1, W 15-14)

Stout: Bethel (W 1-0, L 0-8), Hamline (L 1-2, W 6-1), Augsburg (L 1-5, L 4-7), New York University (L 6-17), Wisconsin Lutheran (L 6-8), Skidmore (L 1-12), LaSalle (W 9-6), North Park (L 1-8), Western Connecticut (L 3-20), Edgewood (L 1-6), St Thomas (L 1-4, L 0-2)

WIAC: 55-37 (.597)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on April 05, 2017, 08:36:22 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 05, 2017, 08:26:14 PM
WARHAWKS: 8, 9
Ripon: 2, 8

Michael Kaska allowed four hits and struck out six over six innings to pick up his first win of the season.  Kaska was relieved by Renz, Finn and Nompleggi who each pitched a single inning.  Renz and Nompleggi each threw hitless innings striking out one and two batters respectively.  Nompleggi allowed a pair of runs (one earned) on three hits with a pair of strikeouts.  Wary (2x5, 2B), Fleischman (2x5) and Kuczynski (2x5, 2B) had multiple hits.  Helbing tripled and drove in 3 runs.  Fleischman (1), Krause (2), Schneider (1) and Kuczynski (1) also drove in runs. 

The WARHAWKS plated a pair of runs in their last at bat to win game two.  Heilenbach started and struggled allowing 7 runs (6 earned) on 9 hits and walking a batter before being relieved by Shah after 1.2 innings.  Shah picked up his second win while surrendering a single unearned run on 3 hits and striking out 7 in 6.1 innings.  Jones pitched a 1-2-3 ninth striking out two.  Ryan Makuski went 4x5 with a pair of RBIs to lead the WARHAWKS.  Krause (2x5) also had multiple hits.  Aldridge (1), Borgardt (2), White (1) and Aeillo (1) recorded RBI.

The WARHAWKS open conference play with a four game series against Lacrosse this weekend.

The Warhawks showed a lot of will and grit to grind out a tough win in game two after being down big early. A lot of players stepped up on both offense and defense. Good team effort.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 05, 2017, 09:00:12 PM
Quote from: therocket21 on April 04, 2017, 02:45:48 PM
CSS seems to be deeper on the mound than ever before. In previous years I feel that they were not able to compete with the depth that the WIAC teams possessed on the mound. This year, however, it appears they are comfortable in trotting out about 7-8 different guys to pitch against a quality team. This has (in my opinion) been the reason they could not beat a WIAC team when it came down to the regional finals.

CSS has always had a solid 1-2 starters that could compete with anyone but became apparent that the rest of their staff needed to be tested more against better competition. When they were a pool B team they couldn't slip up so made it difficult to throw anyone on the mound. With having the auto qualifier the last handful of years they can schedule a very difficult schedule and run out 7-8 guys against WIAC and MIAC teams ( current SOS is 4). Also the UMAC adding north central and uws allowed them to go from 21 conference games to 16 thus allowing a harder schedule.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: therocket21 on April 06, 2017, 11:16:03 AM
CSS has always had a solid 1-2 starters that could compete with anyone but became apparent that the rest of their staff needed to be tested more against better competition. When they were a pool B team they couldn't slip up so made it difficult to throw anyone on the mound. With having the auto qualifier the last handful of years they can schedule a very difficult schedule and run out 7-8 guys against WIAC and MIAC teams ( current SOS is 4). Also the UMAC adding north central and uws allowed them to go from 21 conference games to 16 thus allowing a harder schedule.
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Yes, couldn't agree with you more. Also, gotta give CSS credit for going out and getting quality recruits, especially a few JR.'s that come in and contribute right away. The 16 conference helps as they can schedule their non-conference to be one of the toughest in the country.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 08, 2017, 06:24:52 PM
Whitewater strikes first in the race for the WIAC regular season championship as they sweep a DH from La Crosse today.  Austin Jones continues his dominance beating reigning WIAC Pitcher of the Year Caleb Boushley 4-1 in the opener, while Health Renz keeps the Eagles bats quiet in the nightcap until La Crosse scores four ninth inning runs against the bullpen for a 9-4 victory.  Kuczynski with a pair of home runs and Chamberlain with three doubles paced the Whitewater offense in the nightcap.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 08, 2017, 06:52:00 PM
Stevens Point gets a solid performance from Erickson on the mound in the WIAC opener as they take advantage of some UWO errors for a 4-0 victory.  Stevens Point outhit UWO 7-5 in the nightcap, however four Pointer pitchers combine to issue 12 walks as UWO salvages a split with an 8-2 victory.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 08, 2017, 08:26:55 PM
Entering today's WIAC opener for both teams, Platteville was sitting at 15-4 while Stout was 3-12....  While I didn't wonder aloud, it had crossed my mind how much Platteville's opponents might have played into how nice the Pioneers record looked.  Well today's results against Stout might be an indicator, as the Blue Devils swept Platteville in a pair of one run games, 5-4 and 9-8.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 09, 2017, 03:09:32 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 17, 2017, 07:28:56 PM
Kawlewski is not the answer...struggles to throw strikes and when he does, gets hit around the park.  I haven't seen one reason why Jirschele feels he's the number 2 starter right now.
Kawlewski with a complete game shutout as Stevens Point defeats UWO 4-0 in Game #1 of a DH today.  Kawlewski gave up just four hits and struck out six while walking three in the 116 pitch outing.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 09, 2017, 03:11:51 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 08, 2017, 08:26:55 PM
Entering today's WIAC opener for both teams, Platteville was sitting at 15-4 while Stout was 3-12....  While I didn't wonder aloud, it had crossed my mind how much Platteville's opponents might have played into how nice the Pioneers record looked.  Well today's results against Stout might be an indicator, as the Blue Devils swept Platteville in a pair of one run games, 5-4 and 9-8.
Tack on another loss to Platteville's record, as Stout knocks off the Pioneers again this morning, 7-3.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 09, 2017, 04:50:45 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 08, 2017, 06:24:52 PM
Whitewater strikes first in the race for the WIAC regular season championship as they sweep a DH from La Crosse today.  Austin Jones continues his dominance beating reigning WIAC Pitcher of the Year Caleb Boushley 4-1 in the opener, while Health Renz keeps the Eagles bats quiet in the nightcap until La Crosse scores four ninth inning runs against the bullpen for a 9-4 victory.  Kuczynski with a pair of home runs and Chamberlain with three doubles paced the Whitewater offense in the nightcap.
Whitewater battles back to take Game #3 of the series 4-3, thanks in large part to some great relief pitching from Nompleggi (4 scoreless innings,) a continued hot bat from Chamberlain (a double and 2 HR's)  and a solo HR from Fleischmann leading off the Bottom of the 12th inning.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 09, 2017, 04:59:39 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 09, 2017, 03:11:51 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 08, 2017, 08:26:55 PM
Entering today's WIAC opener for both teams, Platteville was sitting at 15-4 while Stout was 3-12....  While I didn't wonder aloud, it had crossed my mind how much Platteville's opponents might have played into how nice the Pioneers record looked.  Well today's results against Stout might be an indicator, as the Blue Devils swept Platteville in a pair of one run games, 5-4 and 9-8.
Tack on another loss to Platteville's record, as Stout knocks off the Pioneers again this morning, 7-3.
Platteville salvages Game #4 of the series, with a 10-6 victory....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 09, 2017, 07:12:22 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 08, 2017, 06:52:00 PM
Stevens Point gets a solid performance from Erickson on the mound in the WIAC opener as they take advantage of some UWO errors for a 4-0 victory.  Stevens Point outhit UWO 7-5 in the nightcap, however four Pointer pitchers combine to issue 12 walks as UWO salvages a split with an 8-2 victory.
Kawelski fires a CG shutout to lead Point to a 4-0 victory in the opener, and despite squandering a 4-0 lead, UWO ties the game in the 8th and then puts up five runs in the 11th inning to gain yet another DH split.  Infielder Noah Polcyn with four impressive innings of relief to pick up the victory, giving up just one hit while striking out four.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 09, 2017, 07:39:33 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 09, 2017, 04:50:45 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 08, 2017, 06:24:52 PM
Whitewater strikes first in the race for the WIAC regular season championship as they sweep a DH from La Crosse today.  Austin Jones continues his dominance beating reigning WIAC Pitcher of the Year Caleb Boushley 4-1 in the opener, while Health Renz keeps the Eagles bats quiet in the nightcap until La Crosse scores four ninth inning runs against the bullpen for a 9-4 victory.  Kuczynski with a pair of home runs and Chamberlain with three doubles paced the Whitewater offense in the nightcap.
Whitewater battles back to take Game #3 of the series 4-3, thanks in large part to some great relief pitching from Nompleggi (4 scoreless innings,) a continued hot bat from Chamberlain (a double and 2 HR's)  and a solo HR from Fleischmann leading off the Bottom of the 12th inning.
Whitewater gets a 111 pitch complete game from Shah as they finish off the four game sweep over La Crosse with a 6-2 victory.  Fleischman with another HR, and Chamberlain with another multi-hit game pace the Warhawk offense.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 09, 2017, 07:40:42 PM
WIAC Standings
Whitewater 4-0
Stout 3-1
Oshkosh 2-2
Stevens Point 2-2
Platteville1-3
La Crosse 0-4
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on April 10, 2017, 02:08:54 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 09, 2017, 07:40:42 PM
WIAC Standings
Whitewater 4-0
Stout 3-1
Oshkosh 2-2
Stevens Point 2-2
Platteville1-3
La Crosse 0-4

This looks as expected but I would have thought UW-LX would have won one game.  Good job for UWW just about winning the WIAC in the first weekend of conf play.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on April 10, 2017, 11:35:53 AM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 10, 2017, 02:08:54 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 09, 2017, 07:40:42 PM
WIAC Standings
Whitewater 4-0
Stout 3-1
Oshkosh 2-2
Stevens Point 2-2
Platteville1-3
La Crosse 0-4

This looks as expected but I would have thought UW-LX would have won one game.  Good job for UWW just about winning the WIAC in the first weekend of conf play.
Sweeping UWL is big but this is far from over. It'll be tough for UWO to do the same to UWL AND win their series with UWW but it is doable. UWO has a better team and will finish ahead of UWL this year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on April 10, 2017, 12:28:00 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 10, 2017, 11:35:53 AM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 10, 2017, 02:08:54 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 09, 2017, 07:40:42 PM
WIAC Standings
Whitewater 4-0
Stout 3-1
Oshkosh 2-2
Stevens Point 2-2
Platteville1-3
La Crosse 0-4

This looks as expected but I would have thought UW-LX would have won one game.  Good job for UWW just about winning the WIAC in the first weekend of conf play.
Sweeping UWL is big but this is far from over. It'll be tough for UWO to do the same to UWL AND win their series with UWW but it is doable. UWO has a better team and will finish ahead of UWL this year.

That is quite the statement to me.  UWSP has 1 hitter and 1 pitcher who has shown any type of consistency this season and Oshkosh was only able to salvage a split there.  I still think La Crosse and Whitewater are the 2 best teams in the conference with Whitewater head and shoulders above everyone else.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 10, 2017, 12:54:21 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 10, 2017, 02:08:54 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 09, 2017, 07:40:42 PM
WIAC Standings
Whitewater 4-0
Stout 3-1
Oshkosh 2-2
Stevens Point 2-2y
Platteville1-3
La Crosse 0-4

This looks as expected but I would have thought UW-LX would have won one game.  Good job for UWW just about winning the WIAC in the first weekend of conf play.


Aren't you the same person to pick the WARHAWKS most likely to disappoint in the 2012 World Series?  Thanks for the vote of confidence but I'll wait for the season to play out.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on April 10, 2017, 02:43:01 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on April 10, 2017, 12:28:00 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 10, 2017, 11:35:53 AM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 10, 2017, 02:08:54 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 09, 2017, 07:40:42 PM
WIAC Standings
Whitewater 4-0
Stout 3-1
Oshkosh 2-2
Stevens Point 2-2
Platteville1-3
La Crosse 0-4

This looks as expected but I would have thought UW-LX would have won one game.  Good job for UWW just about winning the WIAC in the first weekend of conf play.
Sweeping UWL is big but this is far from over. It'll be tough for UWO to do the same to UWL AND win their series with UWW but it is doable. UWO has a better team and will finish ahead of UWL this year.

That is quite the statement to me.  UWSP has 1 hitter and 1 pitcher who has shown any type of consistency this season and Oshkosh was only able to salvage a split there.  I still think La Crosse and Whitewater are the 2 best teams in the conference with Whitewater head and shoulders above everyone else.
You're undervaluing Point. I think they proved that they're better than most thought with their performance against UWO this past weekend. At this point I wouldn't be surprised to see UWSP finish ahead of UWL.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 10, 2017, 02:48:13 PM
Could warhawks possibly go undefeated this year in conference? I could see point maybe pulling a game off if Erickson is on.  I was kidding in basketball not so much in baseball this year. Probably the worst the wiac has been in 20 years top to bottom but whitewater being so good helps.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on April 10, 2017, 03:53:12 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 10, 2017, 02:48:13 PM
Could warhawks possibly go undefeated this year in conference? I could see point maybe pulling a game off if Erickson is on.  I was kidding in basketball not so much in baseball this year. Probably the worst the wiac has been in 20 years top to bottom but whitewater being so good helps.
Even if the WIAC is as bad this year as you're claiming it to be I don't see it happening. I wasn't around to see the UWO teams of the 90s play but I have a feeling if none of those groups could do it then it is going to be darn near impossible.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 10, 2017, 04:15:40 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 10, 2017, 03:53:12 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 10, 2017, 02:48:13 PM
Could warhawks possibly go undefeated this year in conference? I could see point maybe pulling a game off if Erickson is on.  I was kidding in basketball not so much in baseball this year. Probably the worst the wiac has been in 20 years top to bottom but whitewater being so good helps.
Even if the WIAC is as bad this year as you're claiming it to be I don't see it happening. I wasn't around to see the UWO teams of the 90s play but I have a feeling if none of those groups could do it then it is going to be darn near impossible.
Coach Lechnir led UWO to an undefeated regular season in 1995, when the Titans went 12-0 in league play, and then swept Eau Claire for the WSUC Championship.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on April 11, 2017, 08:00:34 AM
http://www.d3baseball.com/top25/2017/2017Top25-week-7 (http://www.d3baseball.com/top25/2017/2017Top25-week-7)

Warhawks move to #3 as UWL dropped entirely from the rankings.

The sweep was definitely impressive, especially considering the number of runners UWW left on base over the course of the weekend. They have improved each week and key bats are starting to come alive. That said, I personally believe no one should ever underestimate the talent or will to win in the WIAC. Each team has the ability to put together very strong games, and I don't suspect anyone in the Warhawks clubhouse is thinking that this will be an every-series occurrence.

It will be fun to see how the Warhawks perform with a target on their backs. Most of this team has been there before.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 11, 2017, 10:39:09 AM
Standings & Results (Thru 4/12)

WARHAWKS: 12-3
Platteville: 15-4
Lacrosse: 10-5
Oshkosh: 8-7
Stevens Point: 7-7
Stout: 3-12

WARHAWKS: St Thomas (W 5-2, W 10-1), Concordia Moorhead (L 0-1, W 3-2), Wm Paterson (W 9-7), Webster (W 10-2), Rutgers-Camden (W 7-2), Southern Maine (W 5-4), Clarkson (W 3-1), Union (W 7-6), St Scholastica  (W, 10-5, L 8-10), Ripon (W 8-2, W 9-8), Concordia (Wi) (L 3-21)

Lacrosse: St Johns (L 0-1, W 6-0), Concordia-Chicago (W 6-2), College of New Jersey (W 6-4), Wm Paterson (L 4-5), Webster (L 0-4), Rampo (W 5-3), Southern Maine (W 4-2), Benedictine (W 10-5), Cornell (W 3-1,  W 10-2), St Mary's (W 4-3, W 7-3), St Scholastica (L 5-6, L 7-10)

Platteville: Fontbonne (W 6-4), Buena Vista (L 0-10), Ripon (W 8-2), Stockton (W 5-2), McDaniel (L 0-5), College of New Jersey (L 7-8), Minn Morris (W 7-2), Eastern Connecticut (W 7-4), Western New England (L 0-3), Simpson (W 14-7, W 10-2), Northland (W 5-3, W 6-1), Marian (W 6-1, W 4-3), Illinois Institute of Technology (W 6-4, W 3-2), Illinois Institute of Technology (W 14-10, W 10-5)

Oshkosh: Adrian (W 8-4), Birmingham Southern (L 3-6), Transylvania (W 8-4), Mass-Boston (L 3-4), Eastern Connecticut (L 5-17), Clarkson (L 14-16), Washington Jefferson (W 4-1), Bowdoin (W 6-1, W 10-0), St Thomas (W 3-2), Union (W 6-1), St Scholastica (L 4-5, L 3-4), St Mary's (L 1-4, W 8-3), Concordia (WI) (L 2-3), Ripon (W 14-2)

Stevens Point: St Thomas (L 2-6, L 5-7), Clarkson (W 6-5), Rampo (L 4-6, L 5-15), Westfield State (W 9-3), St Olaf (W 7-1), Worcester State (W 13-3), Southern Maine (L 4-6, L 4-6), Benedictine (L 1-11), Washington Jefferson (W 5-4), Ripon (W 6-1, W 15-14)

Stout: Bethel (W 1-0, L 0-8), Hamline (L 1-2, W 6-1), Augsburg (L 1-5, L 4-7), New York University (L 6-17), Wisconsin Lutheran (L 6-8), Skidmore (L 1-12), LaSalle (W 9-6), North Park (L 1-8), Western Connecticut (L 3-20), Edgewood (L 1-6), St Thomas (L 1-4, L 0-2)

WIAC: 56-39 (.590)

Out of conference only.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on April 11, 2017, 11:23:26 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 10, 2017, 04:15:40 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 10, 2017, 03:53:12 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 10, 2017, 02:48:13 PM
Could warhawks possibly go undefeated this year in conference? I could see point maybe pulling a game off if Erickson is on.  I was kidding in basketball not so much in baseball this year. Probably the worst the wiac has been in 20 years top to bottom but whitewater being so good helps.
Even if the WIAC is as bad this year as you're claiming it to be I don't see it happening. I wasn't around to see the UWO teams of the 90s play but I have a feeling if none of those groups could do it then it is going to be darn near impossible.
Coach Lechnir led UWO to an undefeated regular season in 1995, when the Titans went 12-0 in league play, and then swept Eau Claire for the WSUC Championship.
Thanks for the correction. Perhaps I misunderstood what I was told. My guess is that it hasn't been done since going to 24 games (now only 20 games) in conference.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 11, 2017, 12:51:58 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 10, 2017, 04:15:40 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 10, 2017, 03:53:12 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 10, 2017, 02:48:13 PM
Could warhawks possibly go undefeated this year in conference? I could see point maybe pulling a game off if Erickson is on.  I was kidding in basketball not so much in baseball this year. Probably the worst the wiac has been in 20 years top to bottom but whitewater being so good helps.
Even if the WIAC is as bad this year as you're claiming it to be I don't see it happening. I wasn't around to see the UWO teams of the 90s play but I have a feeling if none of those groups could do it then it is going to be darn near impossible.
Coach Lechnir led UWO to an undefeated regular season in 1995, when the Titans went 12-0 in league play, and then swept Eau Claire for the WSUC Championship.

And then beat my Carthage squad at the World Series. Jarrod Washburn was unreal that day.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 11, 2017, 01:23:53 PM
WARHAWKS claim both WIAC Position and Pitcher of the Week honors.

Position
Blake Fleischman (Germantown, Wis./Germantown), Junior, Infielder Fleischman hit four home runs in six games last week to help the No. 4 Warhawks post a 6-0 record. He finished 10-for-25 (.400) at the plate and added two doubles, 10 runs scored, four walks and seven runs batted in, tallying at least one hit in all six contests. Fleischman homered in all four games against No. 15 UW-La Crosse over the weekend, recording a walk-off, solo homer in the 12th inning during UW-Whitewater's 4-3 triumph in the first game of Sunday's doubleheader against the Eagles. He finished that game with three hits and one walk. Fleischman also hit a key two-run homer in the fifth inning of the Warhawks' 4-1 victory in Game 1 on Saturday. In the final game of the four-game set on Sunday, he reached based four times, scored three runs and knocked in two during the team's 6-2 triumph.

Pitcher
Ankur Shah (St. Charles, Ill./St. Charles North), Senior
Shah posted a 2-0 record last week and didn't allow an earned run to help the No. 4 Warhawks post a 6-0 record, including four wins over No. 15 UW-La Crosse. He started the week Wednesday by pitching 6 1/3 innings or relief, allowing only three hits and one unearned run while striking out seven to help UW-Whitewater to a come-from-behind 9-8 triumph in the second game of a doubleheader at Ripon. Shah finished the week Sunday on three days of rest with a complete-game victory, scattering seven hits and one walk over nine innings while striking out six in the team's 6-2 win over UW-La Crosse.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on April 11, 2017, 07:03:56 PM
The Warhawks fall 21-3 to Concordia Wisconsin.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 11, 2017, 09:23:09 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on April 11, 2017, 07:03:56 PM
The Warhawks fall 21-3 to Concordia Wisconsin.

:o What???  :o

I get that the guys that threw today aren't likely to touch the mound in WIAC play, but I would think that Whitewater's bats would have put up more than three runs.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on April 12, 2017, 08:47:36 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 11, 2017, 09:23:09 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on April 11, 2017, 07:03:56 PM
The Warhawks fall 21-3 to Concordia Wisconsin.

:o What???  :o

I get that the guys that threw today aren't likely to touch the mound in WIAC play, but I would think that Whitewater's bats would have put up more than three runs.....

When I saw that final I could not believe it. Prolly CUW had their best day hitting the ball.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 12, 2017, 10:07:39 AM
Concordia (WI): 21
WARHAWKS: 3

All I can say is that we played liked crap.  Our young pitchers were crushed and we couldn't really get anything going offensively.  Hopefully this is out of our system and we'll play like we're capable in Menomonie.  It was embarrassing to say the least.  Traveling intramural teams could have played better than we did yesterday.  I'm not sure how you put something this ugly behind you and move on but that's what will have to happen.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on April 12, 2017, 10:43:13 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 12, 2017, 10:07:39 AM
Concordia (WI): 21
WARHAWKS: 3

All I can say is that we played liked crap.  Our young pitchers were crushed and we couldn't really get anything going offensively.  Hopefully this is out of our system and we'll play like we're capable in Menomonie.  It was embarrassing to say the least.  Traveling intramural teams could have played better than we did yesterday.  I'm not sure how you put something this ugly behind you and move on but that's what will have to happen.

expanding the number of experienced pitchers will benefit UWW in the long run.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on April 12, 2017, 11:25:44 AM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 12, 2017, 10:43:13 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 12, 2017, 10:07:39 AM
Concordia (WI): 21
WARHAWKS: 3

All I can say is that we played liked crap.  Our young pitchers were crushed and we couldn't really get anything going offensively.  Hopefully this is out of our system and we'll play like we're capable in Menomonie.  It was embarrassing to say the least.  Traveling intramural teams could have played better than we did yesterday.  I'm not sure how you put something this ugly behind you and move on but that's what will have to happen.

expanding the number of experienced pitchers will benefit UWW in the long run.

I generally agree with both sentiments.

There is tremendous value in providing opportunity for more pitchers.

That said, I don't know if you call it the perfect storm or what, but the 8 hits the Warhawks did collect would never be enough when allowing 20 hits and committing 3 errors with 1 CS, 4 wild pitches, 10 BBs, 1 balk, and 2 HBP.

It will be very interesting to see how they respond this weekend and beyond, but I would expect some fire and intensity. Hopefully they can work in all four games in what appears to be a very soggy Menomonie.

UPDATE: Series relocated to UWW ... UW Stout remains the home team.





Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 13, 2017, 09:47:19 AM
Standings & Results (Thru 4/12)

WARHAWKS: 12-3
Platteville: 15-4
Lacrosse: 10-5
Oshkosh: 8-7
Stevens Point: 7-7
Stout: 3-12

WARHAWKS: St Thomas (W 5-2, W 10-1), Concordia Moorhead (L 0-1, W 3-2), Wm Paterson (W 9-7), Webster (W 10-2), Rutgers-Camden (W 7-2), Southern Maine (W 5-4), Clarkson (W 3-1), Union (W 7-6), St Scholastica  (W, 10-5, L 8-10), Ripon (W 8-2, W 9-8), Concordia (Wi) (L 3-21)

Lacrosse: St Johns (L 0-1, W 6-0), Concordia-Chicago (W 6-2), College of New Jersey (W 6-4), Wm Paterson (L 4-5), Webster (L 0-4), Rampo (W 5-3), Southern Maine (W 4-2), Benedictine (W 10-5), Cornell (W 3-1,  W 10-2), St Mary's (W 4-3, W 7-3), St Scholastica (L 5-6, L 7-10)

Platteville: Fontbonne (W 6-4), Buena Vista (L 0-10), Ripon (W 8-2), Stockton (W 5-2), McDaniel (L 0-5), College of New Jersey (L 7-8), Minn Morris (W 7-2), Eastern Connecticut (W 7-4), Western New England (L 0-3), Simpson (W 14-7, W 10-2), Northland (W 5-3, W 6-1), Marian (W 6-1, W 4-3), Illinois Institute of Technology (W 6-4, W 3-2), Illinois Institute of Technology (W 14-10, W 10-5)

Oshkosh: Adrian (W 8-4), Birmingham Southern (L 3-6), Transylvania (W 8-4), Mass-Boston (L 3-4), Eastern Connecticut (L 5-17), Clarkson (L 14-16), Washington Jefferson (W 4-1), Bowdoin (W 6-1, W 10-0), St Thomas (W 3-2), Union (W 6-1), St Scholastica (L 4-5, L 3-4), St Mary's (L 1-4, W 8-3), Concordia (WI) (L 2-3), Ripon (W 14-2)

Stevens Point: St Thomas (L 2-6, L 5-7), Clarkson (W 6-5), Rampo (L 4-6, L 5-15), Westfield State (W 9-3), St Olaf (W 7-1), Worcester State (W 13-3), Southern Maine (L 4-6, L 4-6), Benedictine (L 1-11), Washington Jefferson (W 5-4), Ripon (W 6-1, W 15-14)

Stout: Bethel (W 1-0, L 0-8), Hamline (L 1-2, W 6-1), Augsburg (L 1-5, L 4-7), New York University (L 6-17), Wisconsin Lutheran (L 6-8), Skidmore (L 1-12), LaSalle (W 9-6), North Park (L 1-8), Western Connecticut (L 3-20), Edgewood (L 1-6), St Thomas (L 1-4, L 0-2)

WIAC: 56-39 (.590)

Out of conference only.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 13, 2017, 04:29:19 PM
Boushley flat out DOMINANT today, as he strikes out 12 in a complete game four hitter for La Crosse as they defeat UWO 5-0 in the opener of their four game series...  (UWO did load bases with one out in the 9th, but Boushley got a strikeout and fly out to squash the threat.)

Whitewater defeats Stout 11-1 in a seven inning "mercy rule" game behind the arm of Michael Kaska.  (Will be interesting to see if Jones starts in either game tomorrow, as he and Renz were "paired" up last weekend, and Renz is starting Game #2 today.)

Point leading Platteville 10-7 in the Top of the 8th inning...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 13, 2017, 08:57:46 PM
WARHAWKS: 11
Stout: 1

The WARHAWKS scored as many runs as they would need with three runs in their first at bat.  Chamberlain's sacrifice fly brought in the first run and RBI singles from Kuczynski and Aeillo brught in the other two.  Stout answered with their only run in the second inning with a ground out RBI.  Kruczynski and Aeillo each added a second RBI in the third which coupled with an RBI single from Aldridge and Borgardt's sacrifice upped the WARHAWKS advantage to 7-1.  The WARHAWKS finished the scoring with four more runs in the fifth.  Krause's bases loaded double accounted for three of the runs and a fielder's choice RBI by Makuski the fourth.  Kaska pitched a complete game allowing four hits and a single unearned run while walking one and striking out a pair to pick up his second win of the season and even his record.  Five WARHAWKS hitters had multiple hits in the thirteen hit offense.  Aeillo (3x4) led way while Wary (2x5), Fleischman (2x2), Krause (2x3) and Kuczynski (2x4) followed.  Seven WARHAWKS (Krause 3, Kuczynski 2, Aeillo 2, Chamberlain 1, Aldridge 1, Borgardt 1 and Makuski 1) drove in runs.


WARHAWKS: 10
Stout: 2

Renz picked up his fourth win of the season in game two.  The hard throwing right hander allowed four hits, a pair of runs (one earned) walked one and struck out six in seven innings.  Finn relieved pitching two hitless innings.  The WARHAWKS scored a single unearned run in the first inning courtesy of Blue Devil throwing error and added a second run in the fourth when Aeillo doubled.  Five WARHAWKS scored in the sixth pushing the lead to 7-0.  Aldridge and Wary each had RBI singles.  Makuski's fielders choice drove in another run and the WARHAWKS other two were scored on a passed ball and a throwing error.  The Blue Devils answered with a pair in the bottom of the inning but the WARHAWKS pushed three more runs across in the seventh on RBI singles from Aldridge and Helbing paired with a Wary fielders choice.  Wary (2), Chamberlain (2), Kuczynski (2), Aeillo (2) and Aldridge (2) had multiple hits.  Wary (2), Aldridge (2), Aeillo (1), Makuski (1) and Helbing (1) had RBIs. 

My understanding is that Jones and Westin will start on the mound tomorrow. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 13, 2017, 09:38:52 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 13, 2017, 04:29:19 PM
Boushley flat out DOMINANT today, as he strikes out 12 in a complete game four hitter for La Crosse as they defeat UWO 5-0 in the opener of their four game series...  (UWO did load bases with one out in the 9th, but Boushley got a strikeout and fly out to squash the threat.)

Whitewater defeats Stout 11-1 in a seven inning "mercy rule" game behind the arm of Michael Kaska.  (Will be interesting to see if Jones starts in either game tomorrow, as he and Renz were "paired" up last weekend, and Renz is starting Game #2 today.)

Point leading Platteville 10-7 in the Top of the 8th inning...
UWO and La Crosse swap shutouts, as Treml matches Boushley's complete game shutout from Game #1 with one of his own in Game #2, a 7-0 victory for the Titans.

Point holds on in Game #1 to beat Platteville 10-8.  Platteville had the bases loaded with one out in the 9th inning, but were only able to push one run across, on a bases loaded walk with two outs, as Stodola gets a strikeout to end it.  Platteville takes Game #2 behind a six run 6th inning and coast to an 8-1 victory.

See BW's post above for a recap on the Whitewater/Stout Game #2.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 13, 2017, 09:40:42 PM
WIAC Standings
Whitewater 6-0
Stout 3-3
Oshkosh 3-3
Stevens Point 3-3
Platteville 2-4
La Crosse 1-5
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 14, 2017, 01:02:43 AM
Huge split for point I was not expecting them to win any games at platteville other than when erickson pitched.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on April 14, 2017, 08:54:36 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 14, 2017, 01:02:43 AM
Huge split for point I was not expecting them to win any games at platteville other than when erickson pitched.

What exactly is huge about the split considering they did what you expected them to do.  Erickson pitched, not well, and they won.  Erickson didn't pitch, they got pounded.  Can you even follow the things you say??
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 14, 2017, 10:29:22 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 14, 2017, 01:02:43 AM
Huge split for point I was not expecting them to win any games at platteville other than when erickson pitched.
Yes, because that dominant Platteville team just lost three of four to Stout last weekend....   ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on April 14, 2017, 03:17:06 PM
Warhawks take game one 5-3 over Stout in 10 innings.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 14, 2017, 06:38:06 PM
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Warhawks take game one 5-3 over Stout in 10 innings.
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Fleischman two run home run in the top of the tenth.  WARHAWKS sweep four game series 11-1 game two today.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 14, 2017, 07:02:09 PM
WIAC Standings
Whitewater 8-0
Stevens Point 5-3
Oshkosh 4-4
Stout 3-5
Platteville 2-6
La Crosse 2-6
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 14, 2017, 07:06:40 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 14, 2017, 01:02:43 AM
Huge split for point I was not expecting them to win any games at platteville other than when erickson pitched
Sure you didn't mean you were expecting Stevens Point win all but one game, not lose all but one game?

Stevens Point takes three out of four after a pair of convincing wins today, 18-3 and 9-1.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 14, 2017, 07:10:57 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 10, 2017, 11:35:53 AM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 10, 2017, 02:08:54 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 09, 2017, 07:40:42 PM
WIAC Standings
Whitewater 4-0
Stout 3-1
Oshkosh 2-2
Stevens Point 2-2
Platteville1-3
La Crosse 0-4

This looks as expected but I would have thought UW-LX would have won one game.  Good job for UWW just about winning the WIAC in the first weekend of conf play.
Sweeping UWL is big but this is far from over. It'll be tough for UWO to do the same to UWL AND win their series with UWW but it is doable. UWO has a better team and will finish ahead of UWL this year.
UWO and La Crosse end up splitting their four game series, with each team shutting the other out a pair of times...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on April 14, 2017, 09:49:30 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 14, 2017, 07:10:57 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 10, 2017, 11:35:53 AM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 10, 2017, 02:08:54 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 09, 2017, 07:40:42 PM
WIAC Standings
Whitewater 4-0
Stout 3-1
Oshkosh 2-2
Stevens Point 2-2
Platteville1-3
La Crosse 0-4

This looks as expected but I would have thought UW-LX would have won one game.  Good job for UWW just about winning the WIAC in the first weekend of conf play.
Sweeping UWL is big but this is far from over. It'll be tough for UWO to do the same to UWL AND win their series with UWW but it is doable. UWO has a better team and will finish ahead of UWL this year.
UWO and La Crosse end up splitting their four game series, with each team shutting the other out a pair of times...
Still leaves UWO in good position to finish 2nd in the WIAC which should land them a place in the NCAA tournament.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 14, 2017, 11:52:08 PM
I would not assume that if they finish 2nd in wiac they would get in.  Most years you could assume that for sure but I would think they would also need to finish 2nd at worst in wiac tournament and not lose many more games.  The second place team could finish with 6 or more losses this year.  I think Oshkosh is a very dangerous team with their top pitchers on mound but they have also shown they can play awful too.  As for point I was very nervous about the possibility of finishing last and now it's safe to say they will at least finish 5th but more than likely fourth.  They will have their hands full splitting with stout I feel. I have no idea how oshkosh didn't sweep or at least take 3 from pointers.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 15, 2017, 10:10:37 AM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 14, 2017, 09:49:30 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 14, 2017, 07:10:57 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 10, 2017, 11:35:53 AM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 10, 2017, 02:08:54 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 09, 2017, 07:40:42 PM
WIAC Standings
Whitewater 4-0
Stout 3-1
Oshkosh 2-2
Stevens Point 2-2
Platteville1-3
La Crosse 0-4

This looks as expected but I would have thought UW-LX would have won one game.  Good job for UWW just about winning the WIAC in the first weekend of conf play.
Sweeping UWL is big but this is far from over. It'll be tough for UWO to do the same to UWL AND win their series with UWW but it is doable. UWO has a better team and will finish ahead of UWL this year.
UWO and La Crosse end up splitting their four game series, with each team shutting the other out a pair of times...
Still leaves UWO in good position to finish 2nd in the WIAC which should land them a place in the NCAA tournament.
2nd place in the WIAC is not going to "land them a place in the NCAA Tournament" unless they get on a roll the rest of the regular season... 

Let's hypothetically say UWO wins three out of four against both Stout and Platteville and split with Whitewater, (we could argue if that if a realistic/optimistic/pessimistic prediction obviously) in addition to winning the rest of their non-conference games.  That would put them at 12-8 in the WIAC and 24-16 overall entering the WIAC tournament and you would have to add another two losses in the WIAC Tournament if they are looking at an at-large bid.  Outside of Birmingham Southern, Washington and Jefferson, and St. Scholastica, UWO's non-conference schedule isn't going to boost their Strength of Schedule.  I can say with confidence, 18 losses WILL NOT get UWO an at-large bid.

Just for comparison, here were the records of the 14 teams to get a Pool C bid last season:
North Central-30-10
Oswego State-32-9
College of New Jersey-30-10
Ohio Wesleyan-27-14
Whitewater-29-14
Whitworth-29-11
Shenandoah-32-10
Frostburg St.-30-12
Case Western Reserve-26-13
UMass Boston-28-14
Wartburg-33-11
WashU-31-16
Johns Hopkins-26-15-2
Kean-26-16

Rule of thumb appears, you need 16 or less losses to earn a Pool C bid, and if you want to truly feel "safe" it's probably closer to 14.  If UWO loses 18 games but finishes second in the WIAC, it won't matter one bit!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 15, 2017, 10:46:26 AM
WARHAWKS: 5  
Stout: 3

Blake Fleischman's slicing two run home run to left in the top of the tenth broke a 3-3 tie and the WARHAWKS picked up win #19 5-3 over the Blue Devils.  Stout took an early lead with a three run home run in the second inning.  After a WARHAWKS throwing error on a potential inning ending double play the Blue Devils got consecutive singles and capitalized when catcher Tim Bott drilled a fast ball over the fence.  The WARHAWKS cut the gap to 3-2 in the fourth when Kuczynski's double drove in a run and a sacrifice fly by Bryden brought in another.  Bryden, playing as the DH, saw his first action since being injured in the Concordia-Moorhead series.  A single by Wary tied the game in the seventh and the WARHAWKS dodged a bullet in the bottom of the inning when Fleischman snared a line shot with two on.  The Blue Devils threatened again in the bottom of the ninth stranding two base runners when Jones got a strike out and soft grounder to first.  With one out Wary singled in the tenth setting the stage for Fleischman's blow.  The Blue Devils put two on base in their half but Nompleggi, who relieved Jones after one out, got a strike out and ground to finish the game.  Jones picked up win #6 pitching 9.1 innings allowing 3 earned runs on 10 hits while striking out 6 and walking a pair.  Nompleggi recorded save #4.  Wary (2x5) and Krause (2x5) recorded multiple hits.  Fleischman (2), Wary (1), Bryden (1) and Kuczynski (1) all had RBIs.


WARHAWKS: 11
Stout: 1

After two scoreless innings the WARHAWKS got as many runs as they would need putting three on the board with a single hit, three base on balls and a pair of hit by pitch batters.  The Blue Devils cut the deficit to a pair when Bott singled in a run in the fifth.  The WARHAWKS added a pair in the seventh when Chamberlain struck out swinging but reached first and Fleischman scored on what was ruled a wild pitch.  Kuczynski's sacrifice fly accounted for the second run.  Three more WARHAWKS scored in the eighth on RBI singles from Fleischman and Kuczynski and a sacrifice fly by Krause.  The WARHAWKS final three runs came in the ninth when Dylan Bersch and Lucas Price each had RBI singles and Krause reached on a fielders choice.  Weuthrich won his third game allowing 4 hits, 1 earned run, walking 1 and striking out 9 in 7 innings.  Shah allowed a single hit and struck out 3 in two innings of relief.  Krause (3x4) and Kuczynski (3x3) each recorded multiple hits while seven WARHAWKS, Kuczynski (2), Krause (3), Price (1), Fleischman (1), Chamberlain (1), Makuski (1) and Bersch (1) all recorded RBIs.

The WARHAWKS will host Milwaukee School of Engineering Tuesday before heading to Point for a pair of double headers next weekend.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on April 16, 2017, 06:15:49 PM
When was the last time the WIAC didn't have two teams qualify for the NCAA Baseball Tournament???
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 16, 2017, 06:59:24 PM
It's happened four times since 2000.

2000: ]WARHAWKS
2002: Stevens Point
2004: WARHWKS
2006: Stevens Point
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 17, 2017, 02:36:45 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 16, 2017, 06:59:24 PM
It's happened four times since 2000.

2000: WARHAWKS
2002: Stevens Point
2004: WARHWKS
2006: Stevens Point
And the second place WIAC team's record in those four year:

2000-UWO (10-4/27-8) and Stevens Point (10-4/28-11)
2002-Whitewater (18-7/29-11)
2004-UWO (18-6/35-9)
2006-UWO*** (20-4/35-12)

***-UWO actually was the WIAC regular season champion in 2006, however Stevens Point won the WIAC Tournament and the automatic Pool A bid that went along with it.

So TitanDoubles, do you honestly think a 12-8 WIAC record and 27-18 overall record (assuming they go 3-2 in WIAC Tournament) is going to get UWO a Pool C bid?  If so, you might want to take off the black and gold tinted glasses.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 18, 2017, 12:18:06 AM
What would st Norbert finish in wiac this year perhaps 2nd?  How can't point score a single run is their ace going high in MLB draft this spring? 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 18, 2017, 08:25:14 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 18, 2017, 12:18:06 AM
What would st Norbert finish in wiac this year perhaps 2nd?  How can't point score a single run is their ace going high in MLB draft this spring?
I don't think McMahon would be considered their "ace" at this point in the season.... 

Even after the CG shutout yesterday, he sports a 4.32 ERA in 41.2 IP.  Malkowski on the other hand, sits with a 2.12 ERA in 34.0 IP, meaning entering yesterday, both had about the same amount of innings pitched on the season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on April 18, 2017, 08:46:29 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 17, 2017, 02:36:45 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 16, 2017, 06:59:24 PM
It's happened four times since 2000.

2000: WARHAWKS
2002: Stevens Point
2004: WARHWKS
2006: Stevens Point
And the second place WIAC team's record in those four year:

2000-UWO (10-4/27-8) and Stevens Point (10-4/28-11)
2002-Whitewater (18-7/29-11)
2004-UWO (18-6/35-9)
2006-UWO*** (20-4/35-12)

***-UWO actually was the WIAC regular season champion in 2006, however Stevens Point won the WIAC Tournament and the automatic Pool A bid that went along with it.

So TitanDoubles, do you honestly think a 12-8 WIAC record and 27-18 overall record (assuming they go 3-2 in WIAC Tournament) is going to get UWO a Pool C bid?  If so, you might want to take off the black and gold tinted glasses.....
I haven't looked at SOS at all this year but I would figure that UWO is pretty high up there. You never know what could happen. Look at basketball this year. Nobody saw UWO getting in and they did. Being the #2 team in the WIAC is worth a lot.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 18, 2017, 09:17:54 AM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 18, 2017, 08:46:29 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 17, 2017, 02:36:45 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 16, 2017, 06:59:24 PM
It's happened four times since 2000.

2000: WARHAWKS
2002: Stevens Point
2004: WARHWKS
2006: Stevens Point
And the second place WIAC team's record in those four year:

2000-UWO (10-4/27-8) and Stevens Point (10-4/28-11)
2002-Whitewater (18-7/29-11)
2004-UWO (18-6/35-9)
2006-UWO*** (20-4/35-12)

***-UWO actually was the WIAC regular season champion in 2006, however Stevens Point won the WIAC Tournament and the automatic Pool A bid that went along with it.

So TitanDoubles, do you honestly think a 12-8 WIAC record and 27-18 overall record (assuming they go 3-2 in WIAC Tournament) is going to get UWO a Pool C bid?  If so, you might want to take off the black and gold tinted glasses.....
I haven't looked at SOS at all this year but I would figure that UWO is pretty high up there. You never know what could happen. Look at basketball this year. Nobody saw UWO getting in and they did. Being the #2 team in the WIAC is worth a lot.
The difference however is that UWO basketball was in the Regional Rankings the last two weeks when they were released.  If I was to guess what the baseball Regional Rankings would look like when they are released for the first time next week (I believe) Whitewater will likely be the lone WIAC team to crack the rankings.

A lot of shifting can still happen between now and then due to the amount of games that will be played, but I would guess teams like Whitewater, Bethel, St. Scholastica, Concordia-Chicago, and possibly Concordia-Wisconsin and St. Thomas or St. John's will find themselves in the Top 6 next week.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 18, 2017, 09:22:45 AM
Standings & Results (Thru 4/17)

WARHAWKS: 12-3
Platteville: 15-4
Lacrosse: 10-5
Oshkosh: 8-7
Stevens Point: 8-8
Stout: 3-12

WARHAWKS: St Thomas (W 5-2, W 10-1), Concordia Moorhead (L 0-1, W 3-2), Wm Paterson (W 9-7), Webster (W 10-2), Rutgers-Camden (W 7-2), Southern Maine (W 5-4), Clarkson (W 3-1), Union (W 7-6), St Scholastica  (W, 10-5, L 8-10), Ripon (W 8-2, W 9-8), Concordia (Wi) (L 3-21)

Lacrosse: St Johns (L 0-1, W 6-0), Concordia-Chicago (W 6-2), College of New Jersey (W 6-4), Wm Paterson (L 4-5), Webster (L 0-4), Rampo (W 5-3), Southern Maine (W 4-2), Benedictine (W 10-5), Cornell (W 3-1,  W 10-2), St Mary's (W 4-3, W 7-3), St Scholastica (L 5-6, L 7-10)

Platteville: Fontbonne (W 6-4), Buena Vista (L 0-10), Ripon (W 8-2), Stockton (W 5-2), McDaniel (L 0-5), College of New Jersey (L 7-8), Minn Morris (W 7-2), Eastern Connecticut (W 7-4), Western New England (L 0-3), Simpson (W 14-7, W 10-2), Northland (W 5-3, W 6-1), Marian (W 6-1, W 4-3), Illinois Institute of Technology (W 6-4, W 3-2), Illinois Institute of Technology (W 14-10, W 10-5)

Oshkosh: Adrian (W 8-4), Birmingham Southern (L 3-6), Transylvania (W 8-4), Mass-Boston (L 3-4), Eastern Connecticut (L 5-17), Clarkson (L 14-16), Washington Jefferson (W 4-1), Bowdoin (W 6-1, W 10-0), St Thomas (W 3-2), Union (W 6-1), St Scholastica (L 4-5, L 3-4), St Mary's (L 1-4, W 8-3), Concordia (WI) (L 2-3), Ripon (W 14-2)

Stevens Point: St Thomas (L 2-6, L 5-7), Clarkson (W 6-5), Rampo (L 4-6, L 5-15), Westfield State (W 9-3), St Olaf (W 7-1), Worcester State (W 13-3), Southern Maine (L 4-6, L 4-6), Benedictine (L 1-11), Washington Jefferson (W 5-4), Ripon (W 6-1, W 15-14), St Norbert (L 1-8, W 4-1)

Stout: Bethel (W 1-0, L 0-8), Hamline (L 1-2, W 6-1), Augsburg (L 1-5, L 4-7), New York University (L 6-17), Wisconsin Lutheran (L 6-8), Skidmore (L 1-12), LaSalle (W 9-6), North Park (L 1-8), Western Connecticut (L 3-20), Edgewood (L 1-6), St Thomas (L 1-4, L 0-2)

WIAC: 57-40 (.590)

Out of conference only.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on April 18, 2017, 10:13:47 AM
What metrics does the NCAA use for measuring SOS? I thought I remembered looking at something last year. Links would be appreciated. Thanks.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on April 18, 2017, 11:03:56 AM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 18, 2017, 10:13:47 AM
What metrics does the NCAA use for measuring SOS? I thought I remembered looking at something last year. Links would be appreciated. Thanks.

This isn't the most current version, but I believe pages 51-52 outline it. https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/MAN_DIII_Champs_Comm_2015-16_2.pdf (https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/MAN_DIII_Champs_Comm_2015-16_2.pdf)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on April 18, 2017, 11:43:30 AM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on April 18, 2017, 11:03:56 AM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 18, 2017, 10:13:47 AM
What metrics does the NCAA use for measuring SOS? I thought I remembered looking at something last year. Links would be appreciated. Thanks.

This isn't the most current version, but I believe pages 51-52 outline it. https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/MAN_DIII_Champs_Comm_2015-16_2.pdf (https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/MAN_DIII_Champs_Comm_2015-16_2.pdf)
Thanks. If I knew how to dish out karma I would.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 18, 2017, 11:45:44 AM
Your karma feature isn't active until you've posted a certain number of times.  I think it's 100 or something like that.  You still have a ways to go.  I did it for you this time.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 18, 2017, 02:26:12 PM
Cedar Rapids is the new home for the DIII World Series starting in 2019

http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2017/04/cedar-rapids-to-host-championship
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on April 18, 2017, 06:59:40 PM
Warhawks win 21-4 over MSOE in 7 innings. I'm sure BadgerWarhawk can offer his insight and details ... I was only watching video and stats online. Eight home runs for the Warhawks, including 2 each for Krause and Chamberlain.

They are also now ranked #1 in the ABCA poll, #3 in D3Baseball.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 18, 2017, 07:38:50 PM
MSOE: 4-9-1
WARHAWKS: 21-16-0

Shah got the start giving up a single run on a pair of two out hits before being relieved by Jones in the second inning.  The WARHAWKS answered that run and added three more in their at bat when Bryden scored on a wild pitch, Chamberlain drilled his first home run, a two run shot, and Aiello hit an RBI single.  Jones struck out the side in the second and had his only baserunner wiped out by a double play in the third.  The WARHAWKS put six on the board in the fourth.  After a pair of singles and HBP Bryden's fielders choice brought the first run in.  Krause and Chamberlain hit back to back home runs with Krause good for three RBIs and Chamberlain a solo shot.  Wary's single drove in the sixth run staking the WARHAWKS lead to 10-1.  After Heilenbach had pitched a scoreless fourth inning the Engineers got to him for three runs on three hits in the fifth cutting the deficit to 10-4.  Three WARHAWKS homered in the bottom of the fifth.  Bryden's accounted for two runs while Adridge and Krause each had solo home runs pushing the score to 14-4.  The WARHAWKS put seven runs on the board in the sixth.  White and Jense each hit three run home runs, and Chamberlain drove in his fourth RBI with a single.  Renz and Kaska each allowed a hit in the sixth and seventh respectively. 

Hitting: Bryden (2x3, 4 RS, 3 RBI, HR); Krause (2x4, 3 RS, 4 RBI, 2 HR); Chamberlain (3x5, 3 RS, 4 RBI, 2 HR); Jensen (1x1, 1 RS, 3 RBI, HR); Aiello (2x4, 1 RS, 1 RBI); Aldridge (2x3, 3 RS, 1 RBI, HR); White (2x3, 2 RS, 3 RBI, HR)

Shah (4-0) was credited with the win. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 19, 2017, 09:12:33 AM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 18, 2017, 10:13:47 AM
What metrics does the NCAA use for measuring SOS? I thought I remembered looking at something last year. Links would be appreciated. Thanks.
2/3 opponents' W-L percentage (not including your team's results against them)
1/3 opponents' opponents' W-L percentage
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 19, 2017, 09:44:44 AM
Standings & Results (Thru 4/20)

WARHAWKS: 13-3
Platteville: 15-4
Lacrosse: 11-6
Oshkosh: 8-8
Stevens Point: 8-8
Stout: 3-12

WARHAWKS: St Thomas (W 5-2, W 10-1), Concordia Moorhead (L 0-1, W 3-2), Wm Paterson (W 9-7), Webster (W 10-2), Rutgers-Camden (W 7-2), Southern Maine (W 5-4), Clarkson (W 3-1), Union (W 7-6), St Scholastica  (W, 10-5, L 8-10), Ripon (W 8-2, W 9-8), Concordia (Wi) (L 3-21), Milwaukee School of Engineering (W 21-4)

Lacrosse: St Johns (L 0-1, W 6-0), Concordia-Chicago (W 6-2), College of New Jersey (W 6-4), Wm Paterson (L 4-5), Webster (L 0-4), Rampo (W 5-3), Southern Maine (W 4-2), Benedictine (W 10-5), Cornell (W 3-1,  W 10-2), St Mary's (W 4-3, W 7-3), St Scholastica (L 5-6, L 7-10), St Thomas (W 5-2, L 4-9)

Platteville: Fontbonne (W 6-4), Buena Vista (L 0-10), Ripon (W 8-2), Stockton (W 5-2), McDaniel (L 0-5), College of New Jersey (L 7-8), Minn Morris (W 7-2), Eastern Connecticut (W 7-4), Western New England (L 0-3), Simpson (W 14-7, W 10-2), Northland (W 5-3, W 6-1), Marian (W 6-1, W 4-3), Illinois Institute of Technology (W 6-4, W 3-2), Illinois Institute of Technology (W 14-10, W 10-5)

Oshkosh: Adrian (W 8-4), Birmingham Southern (L 3-6), Transylvania (W 8-4), Mass-Boston (L 3-4), Eastern Connecticut (L 5-17), Clarkson (L 14-16), Washington Jefferson (W 4-1), Bowdoin (W 6-1, W 10-0), St Thomas (W 3-2), Union (W 6-1), St Scholastica (L 4-5, L 3-4), St Mary's (L 1-4, W 8-3), Concordia (WI) (L 2-3), Ripon (W 14-2), Benedictine (L 2-5)

Stevens Point: St Thomas (L 2-6, L 5-7), Clarkson (W 6-5), Rampo (L 4-6, L 5-15), Westfield State (W 9-3), St Olaf (W 7-1), Worcester State (W 13-3), Southern Maine (L 4-6, L 4-6), Benedictine (L 1-11), Washington Jefferson (W 5-4), Ripon (W 6-1, W 15-14), St Norbert (L 1-8, W 4-1)

Stout: Bethel (W 1-0, L 0-8), Hamline (L 1-2, W 6-1), Augsburg (L 1-5, L 4-7), New York University (L 6-17), Wisconsin Lutheran (L 6-8), Skidmore (L 1-12), LaSalle (W 9-6), North Park (L 1-8), Western Connecticut (L 3-20), Edgewood (L 1-6), St Thomas (L 1-4, L 0-2)

WIAC: 59-42 (.590)

Out of conference only.


Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on April 22, 2017, 06:23:49 AM
Looking forward to this week's matchups. It will be interesting to see if any more separation is created, or if we see more splits.

LaCrosse threw Boushley 8 innings on Thursday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on April 22, 2017, 03:02:15 PM
Stevens Point takes game one over Warhawks 4-3. erikao. Throws a complete
game and Jones takes the loss.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 22, 2017, 03:10:43 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 10, 2017, 02:48:13 PM
Could warhawks possibly go undefeated this year in conference? I could see point maybe pulling a game off if Erickson is on.  I was kidding in basketball not so much in baseball this year. Probably the worst the wiac has been in 20 years top to bottom but whitewater being so good helps.
ShineTime with the "kiss of death" once again for Whitewater....  Point knocks off Whitewater 4-3 in the opener of their four game series.

Erickson gives up three runs (all earned) on six hits and three walks, while striking out six to give Jones his first loss of the season.  Point did all the damage in the 6th inning off of Jones, as they scored four runs on four hits and a pair of walks to turn a 3-0 deficit into a 4-3 lead.

I wouldn't exactly say Erickson was "on," as I have seen him throw better in the past, but he did keep the Whitewater hitters off balance enough to avoid giving up many extra basehits (just one double.)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 22, 2017, 03:15:24 PM
It's a big win obviously and would be awesome if point could get a split however the only way I can see point beating a top 10 team is with Erickson on mound.  Not saying point doesn't have some good arms just not good enough yet to hold down a rough whitewater squad.  Like I had said I felt Erickson had best chance to beat them.  What a great day outside for baseball
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 22, 2017, 06:29:17 PM
How much would it cost me to get you to simply quit talking about us?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 22, 2017, 07:42:18 PM
WIAC Standings
Whitewater 9-1
Oshkosh 6-4
Stevens Point 6-4
La Crosse 4-6
Stout 3-7
Platteville 2-8

Pretty much status quo today....  Just more separation between contenders and pretenders for berth in WIAC Tournament....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 22, 2017, 07:47:44 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on April 22, 2017, 06:23:49 AM
Looking forward to this week's matchups. It will be interesting to see if any more separation is created, or if we see more splits.

LaCrosse threw Boushley 8 innings on Thursday.
Lavery and McMahon do the job on the mound as La Crosse sweeps Stout 9-3 and 5-0....  Will be interesting to see who starts with Stahulak tomorrow for the Eagles.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 23, 2017, 01:08:02 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 22, 2017, 06:29:17 PM
How much would it cost me to get you to simply quit talking about us?
Whatever you pay would be worth it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 23, 2017, 11:57:43 AM
WARHAWKS: 3, 6
Stevens Point: 4, 1

Everything looked good for the first five innings of game one.   Though we weren't hitting very well the WARHAWKS managed to eke out three runs and Jones had faced only two hitters over the limit walking one and allowing a single hit.  Krause's single in the first brought home Bryden staking the WARHAWKS to a 1-0 lead.  Bryden's infield ground out in the fifth brought in a run and was followed by Fleischman's RBI single pushing the lead to 3-0.  Then the bottom fell out in the sixth.  The Pointer bats heated up with a double and four singles and Jones walked a pair so by the time the dust had settled the Pointers had taken the lead 4-3.  After that Erickson did the rest allowing only a pair of singles one of which was erased in a double play and retiring the final two on strikeouts.  Jones took his first loss of the season pitching allowing 7 hits, 4 earned runs while walking 3 and striking out 9 in 7.2 innings.   Nompleggi recorded the final out with a strike out.  Bryden was 2x4 with the only WARHAWKS extra base hit (2B), scored a run and had an RBI.  Krause was also 2x4 with an RBI and Fleischman recorded an RBI on a single hit.  Erickson surrendered 3 earned runs on 6 hits with 6 strikeouts and 3 walks in a complete game W. 

Renz put win number five on record in game two.  The righty went 8 innings giving up a single earned run on just three hits while striking out eight and walking a pair.  White's two run home run opened the scoring in the third and Aldridge's solo shot in the fifth gave the WARHAWKS a 3-0 lead.   This time the Pointers failed to score in the sixth and the WARHAWKS added three more runs in the seventh with a two run home run from Bryden and Fleischman's triple that was misplayed allowing him to score unearned.  The Pointers scored their only run in the seventh when Iioncile led off with a solo home run.  Nompleggi relieved Renz in the ninth and after striking out the first two Pointers faced walked a hitter and allowed single.  After an infield ground ball on an 0-2 pitch failed to get the force at second the Pointers had loaded the bases.  But Nompleggi stifled the rally with a pop up out to second.  The WARHAWKS offense knocked out 14 hits including three home runs and a double.  Bryden stayed hot going 2x4 with a run scored and 2 RBIs.  Fleischman was also 2x4, scored and drove in a run.  Krause (2x4, 1 RS) and Chamberlain (2x5) had multiple hits as did Aldridge (2x4, 2 RS, 2 RBIs).  White had 2 RBI on his home run.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on April 23, 2017, 03:41:36 PM
Point guarantees themselves a split, beats WW 6-3 in the first game today.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 23, 2017, 03:49:31 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 09, 2017, 03:09:32 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 17, 2017, 07:28:56 PM
Kawlewski is not the answer...struggles to throw strikes and when he does, gets hit around the park.  I haven't seen one reason why Jirschele feels he's the number 2 starter right now.
Kawlewski with a complete game shutout as Stevens Point defeats UWO 4-0 in Game #1 of a DH today.  Kawlewski gave up just four hits and struck out six while walking three in the 116 pitch outing.
Just in case this was missed the first time.... 

Kawlewski holds Whitewater to two runs on eight hits over seven innings while striking out eight and walking three in Point's 6-3 victory over the Warhawks.

So does beating the #3 team in the nation according to d3baseball.com justify Jirschele having Kawlewski as a weekend starter?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on April 23, 2017, 04:40:19 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 23, 2017, 03:49:31 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 09, 2017, 03:09:32 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 17, 2017, 07:28:56 PM
Kawlewski is not the answer...struggles to throw strikes and when he does, gets hit around the park.  I haven't seen one reason why Jirschele feels he's the number 2 starter right now.
Kawlewski with a complete game shutout as Stevens Point defeats UWO 4-0 in Game #1 of a DH today.  Kawlewski gave up just four hits and struck out six while walking three in the 116 pitch outing.
Just in case this was missed the first time.... 

Kawlewski holds Whitewater to two runs on eight hits over seven innings while striking out eight and walking three in Point's 6-3 victory over the Warhawks.

So does beating the #3 team in the nation according to d3baseball.com justify Jirschele having Kawlewski as a weekend starter?

I didn't know anyone needed justification from me over their decisions.  Kawlewski has definitely figured it out lately but his stats still aren't impressive and I still don't have much confidence in consistency from him.  As far as Jirchele goes, I was in the camp that he would be a phenomenal recruiter from the start giving his family background.  I haven't seen that yet, the top D3 guys in the state are all going to Whitewater and La Crosse.  Oshkosh has seemed to pick it up the past 2 years as well.  What I thought would be a deep pitching staff hasn't materialized from UWSP, Jirshele needs to get some help there for future seasons.  Not making the postseason isn't a good season at UWSP, and this season looks that way unless they have a great run at the conference tourney.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 23, 2017, 05:10:55 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on April 23, 2017, 04:40:19 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 23, 2017, 03:49:31 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 09, 2017, 03:09:32 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 17, 2017, 07:28:56 PM
Kawlewski is not the answer...struggles to throw strikes and when he does, gets hit around the park.  I haven't seen one reason why Jirschele feels he's the number 2 starter right now.
Kawlewski with a complete game shutout as Stevens Point defeats UWO 4-0 in Game #1 of a DH today.  Kawlewski gave up just four hits and struck out six while walking three in the 116 pitch outing.
Just in case this was missed the first time.... 

Kawlewski holds Whitewater to two runs on eight hits over seven innings while striking out eight and walking three in Point's 6-3 victory over the Warhawks.

So does beating the #3 team in the nation according to d3baseball.com justify Jirschele having Kawlewski as a weekend starter?

I didn't know anyone needed justification from me over their decisions.  Kawlewski has definitely figured it out lately but his stats still aren't impressive and I still don't have much confidence in consistency from him.  As far as Jirchele goes, I was in the camp that he would be a phenomenal recruiter from the start giving his family background.  I haven't seen that yet, the top D3 guys in the state are all going to Whitewater and La Crosse.  Oshkosh has seemed to pick it up the past 2 years as well.  What I thought would be a deep pitching staff hasn't materialized from UWSP, Jirshele needs to get some help there for future seasons.  Not making the postseason isn't a good season at UWSP, and this season looks that way unless they have a great run at the conference tourney.
Nobody (especially someone who has accomplished as much in the game of baseball as Jirschele) needs justification from you, but when you are quick to criticize something, don't be surprised when someone points out that your criticism might be flawed.

In a short season like D3 baseball, one or two outings can make it so your overall stats aren't impressive regardless of what you do the rest of the season.  With that said, I'm guessing Kawlewski is still in the Top 10 in the WIAC in ERA at the end of the weekend despite his rough start.  That seems to be pretty respectable for your #2 starter (unless you are Whitewater!!!)  Take a look at his stats once Point returned from Florida.  Three starts, 22 IP, 5 runs (all earned,) 17 K's/8 BB's.  Maybe not "ace" material, but far from "getting hit around the park."

As far as the rest of your post, I'm not going to comment on it for the simple fact that that he's in his second year at the helm.  I'm the type that tries not to make "knee-jerk" reactions.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on April 23, 2017, 05:58:34 PM
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Kawlewski is not the answer...struggles to throw strikes and when he does, gets hit around the park.  I haven't seen one reason why Jirschele feels he's the number 2 starter right now.
Kawlewski with a complete game shutout as Stevens Point defeats UWO 4-0 in Game #1 of a DH today.  Kawlewski gave up just four hits and struck out six while walking three in the 116 pitch outing.
Just in case this was missed the first time.... 

Kawlewski holds Whitewater to two runs on eight hits over seven innings while striking out eight and walking three in Point's 6-3 victory over the Warhawks.

So does beating the #3 team in the nation according to d3baseball.com justify Jirschele having Kawlewski as a weekend starter?

I didn't know anyone needed justification from me over their decisions.  Kawlewski has definitely figured it out lately but his stats still aren't impressive and I still don't have much confidence in consistency from him.  As far as Jirchele goes, I was in the camp that he would be a phenomenal recruiter from the start giving his family background.  I haven't seen that yet, the top D3 guys in the state are all going to Whitewater and La Crosse.  Oshkosh has seemed to pick it up the past 2 years as well.  What I thought would be a deep pitching staff hasn't materialized from UWSP, Jirshele needs to get some help there for future seasons.  Not making the postseason isn't a good season at UWSP, and this season looks that way unless they have a great run at the conference tourney.
Nobody (especially someone who has accomplished as much in the game of baseball as Jirschele) needs justification from you, but when you are quick to criticize something, don't be surprised when someone points out that your criticism might be flawed.

In a short season like D3 baseball, one or two outings can make it so your overall stats aren't impressive regardless of what you do the rest of the season.  With that said, I'm guessing Kawlewski is still in the Top 10 in the WIAC in ERA at the end of the weekend despite his rough start.  That seems to be pretty respectable for your #2 starter (unless you are Whitewater!!!)  Take a look at his stats once Point returned from Florida.  Three starts, 22 IP, 5 runs (all earned,) 17 K's/8 BB's.  Maybe not "ace" material, but far from "getting hit around the park."

As far as the rest of your post, I'm not going to comment on it for the simple fact that that he's in his second year at the helm.  I'm the type that tries not to make "knee-jerk" reactions.

Knee jerk reaction you say....almost 2 full recruiting classes isn't a knee jerk reaction to me. 

I'm not impressed with Jirschele, it's an opinion.  I had high hopes when he got the job, he hasn't improved the program.  Pretty simple thought process there.

As far as Kawlewski goes, he struggled mightily in beginning of the season.  I don't have confidence in his consistency.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 23, 2017, 06:28:53 PM
I think the biggest thing that crushed point was losing thomka he was undoubtedly their number 2 and would've put kawleski as a 3 meaning come conference tournament or regionals they would've had a legit shot to make noise if they played like they did this weekend I have heard good and bad about jirschele but would have to agree that his baseball knowledge is unreal as well as relating to the players I know at least a few guys have said he's an awesome and fun coach to play for. Only knock I heard from someone I consider credible is his style in recruiting but don't know exactly what. One person told me he's not into begging guys to come to point which I can understand but some guys like that feeling of being wanted so perhaps if it's true maybe he can work on it. I think when you get a new coach at a d3 school you have to wait at least 3 full seasons to determine success. All I can say about game 4 right now is holy crap. Also not to mention losing ray Greco really hurt he was an all region type of player imo
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 23, 2017, 07:23:08 PM
WIAC Standings
Whitewater 10-2
Oshkosh 8-4
Stevens Point 7-5
La Crosse 5-7
Stout 4-8
Platteville 2-10

Stout ambushed La Crosse in the opener today 18-2,while La Crosse needs a rally in the middle/late innings to salvage a split, winning the nightcap 7-4.

Point uses a big inning to rally in Game #1 today to knock off Whitewater 6-3 and after Point had another big inning rally in Game #2, Whitewater has one of their own as Chamberlain hits a grand slam on an 0-2 pitch with 2 outs in the 8th inning to turn a 7-6 deficit into a 10-7 victory.

UWO buries Platteville twice to stay within striking distance of Whitewater.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 23, 2017, 11:24:29 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on April 23, 2017, 05:58:34 PM
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Kawlewski is not the answer...struggles to throw strikes and when he does, gets hit around the park.  I haven't seen one reason why Jirschele feels he's the number 2 starter right now.
Kawlewski with a complete game shutout as Stevens Point defeats UWO 4-0 in Game #1 of a DH today.  Kawlewski gave up just four hits and struck out six while walking three in the 116 pitch outing.
Just in case this was missed the first time.... 

Kawlewski holds Whitewater to two runs on eight hits over seven innings while striking out eight and walking three in Point's 6-3 victory over the Warhawks.

So does beating the #3 team in the nation according to d3baseball.com justify Jirschele having Kawlewski as a weekend starter?

I didn't know anyone needed justification from me over their decisions.  Kawlewski has definitely figured it out lately but his stats still aren't impressive and I still don't have much confidence in consistency from him.  As far as Jirchele goes, I was in the camp that he would be a phenomenal recruiter from the start giving his family background.  I haven't seen that yet, the top D3 guys in the state are all going to Whitewater and La Crosse.  Oshkosh has seemed to pick it up the past 2 years as well.  What I thought would be a deep pitching staff hasn't materialized from UWSP, Jirshele needs to get some help there for future seasons.  Not making the postseason isn't a good season at UWSP, and this season looks that way unless they have a great run at the conference tourney.
Nobody (especially someone who has accomplished as much in the game of baseball as Jirschele) needs justification from you, but when you are quick to criticize something, don't be surprised when someone points out that your criticism might be flawed.

In a short season like D3 baseball, one or two outings can make it so your overall stats aren't impressive regardless of what you do the rest of the season.  With that said, I'm guessing Kawlewski is still in the Top 10 in the WIAC in ERA at the end of the weekend despite his rough start.  That seems to be pretty respectable for your #2 starter (unless you are Whitewater!!!)  Take a look at his stats once Point returned from Florida.  Three starts, 22 IP, 5 runs (all earned,) 17 K's/8 BB's.  Maybe not "ace" material, but far from "getting hit around the park."

As far as the rest of your post, I'm not going to comment on it for the simple fact that that he's in his second year at the helm.  I'm the type that tries not to make "knee-jerk" reactions.

Knee jerk reaction you say....almost 2 full recruiting classes isn't a knee jerk reaction to me. 

I'm not impressed with Jirschele, it's an opinion.  I had high hopes when he got the job, he hasn't improved the program.  Pretty simple thought process there.

As far as Kawlewski goes, he struggled mightily in beginning of the season.  I don't have confidence in his consistency.
Look at last year's All WIAC team.....  The 20 member squad was comprised of 16 upperclassmen, with Erickson being one of only four underclassmen selected.  Those two full recruiting classes you speak of are now freshmen and sophomores, and as you should be able to figure out, it usually takes quality upperclassmen to succeed in the WIAC.   (Just look at the dropoff from La Crosse this year with all the seniors they graduated.)  I will wait until they are juniors and seniors to form an opinion on the success/failure of the program.

As far as "improving the program," guess you would have been disappointed unless they made it to the Best-of-3 National Championship under Jirschele then considering Coach Bloom had won multiple Regional Championships and made the World Series on three different occasions finishing as high as 3rd Place.  That would be the only thing Point could do to "improve" correct?  ::)

Finally, Point has now beaten arguably two of the Top 3 offenses in the WIAC with Kawlewski on the mound.  Even 2015 WIAC Pitcher of the Year Mitch Beau didn't throw well down on Florida, but once the team returned to Wisconsin he was a different pitcher (except for an April start against Whitewater where he gave up 13 runs.)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on April 24, 2017, 08:40:23 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 23, 2017, 06:28:53 PM
I think the biggest thing that crushed point was losing thomka he was undoubtedly their number 2 and would've put kawleski as a 3 meaning come conference tournament or regionals they would've had a legit shot to make noise if they played like they did this weekend I have heard good and bad about jirschele but would have to agree that his baseball knowledge is unreal as well as relating to the players I know at least a few guys have said he's an awesome and fun coach to play for. Only knock I heard from someone I consider credible is his style in recruiting but don't know exactly what. One person told me he's not into begging guys to come to point which I can understand but some guys like that feeling of being wanted so perhaps if it's true maybe he can work on it. I think when you get a new coach at a d3 school you have to wait at least 3 full seasons to determine success. All I can say about game 4 right now is holy crap. Also not to mention losing ray Greco really hurt he was an all region type of player imo

Probably won't happen again, but I completely agree on losing Thomka.  That was a huge loss for this season.  I have heard he is still planning on playing for Point in the future but don't know the exact specifics with his situation.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on April 24, 2017, 08:42:10 AM
My expectation for a UWSP baseball team, is to make the Regionals.  I don't think that is far fetched to have as an expectation considering their tradition and past success.  Unless UWSP puts together a great run at the Conference Tourney, which I don't see happening with the lack of pitching depth, Jirschele will fail to do that in his 2 years.  I think anybody associated with the team can be disappointed with that.  NOT ONCE did I say I expected them to make the National Championship series, so maybe stop throwing words in my mouth.

That is a fair statement about upperclassmen needed to be successful, and I agree with that.  But, don't act like Jirschele's recruiting classes were filled with just incoming freshman.  The transfers he has brought in have been less than stellar.  That's a nice way of putting it when we are talking about Mulzer and Zeihen.  So, Jirschele needs to evaluate the recruits a little better in my eyes.  I couldn't care less if you have a different opinion.

I don't know why this Kawlewski conversation keeps going on and on with you.  I've stated my opinion.  He has had 2 great starts mixed with average to below average starts.  I have zero confidence in his consistency.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 24, 2017, 09:22:55 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on April 24, 2017, 08:42:10 AM
My expectation for a UWSP baseball team, is to make the Regionals.  I don't think that is far fetched to have as an expectation considering their tradition and past success.  Unless UWSP puts together a great run at the Conference Tourney, which I don't see happening with the lack of pitching depth, Jirschele will fail to do that in his 2 years.  I think anybody associated with the team can be disappointed with that.  NOT ONCE did I say I expected them to make the National Championship series, so maybe stop throwing words in my mouth.

That is a fair statement about upperclassmen needed to be successful, and I agree with that.  But, don't act like Jirschele's recruiting classes were filled with just incoming freshman.  The transfers he has brought in have been less than stellar.  That's a nice way of putting it when we are talking about Mulzer and Zeihen.  So, Jirschele needs to evaluate the recruits a little better in my eyes.  I couldn't care less if you have a different opinion.

I don't know why this Kawlewski conversation keeps going on and on with you.  I've stated my opinion.  He has had 2 great starts mixed with average to below average starts.  I have zero confidence in his consistency.
Not throwing words in your mouth, just trying to interpret what you stated....

You stated that Jirschele "hasn't improved the program."  Well since they were qualifying for Regionals on a regular basis under Bloom and made multiple appearances at the World Series, how else could Jirschele improve upon what Point was already doing other than qualifying for the National Championship series?  That would seem to be about only way to improve on Point's previous success. No?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 24, 2017, 09:37:13 AM
Anyone remember when the talk on here was that UWSP might finish last in the WIAC?  :o
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 24, 2017, 09:44:58 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 24, 2017, 09:37:13 AM
Anyone remember when the talk on here was the UWSP might finish last in the WIAC?  :o
One also has to remember who the source was!!!!  ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on April 24, 2017, 10:06:06 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 24, 2017, 09:22:55 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on April 24, 2017, 08:42:10 AM
My expectation for a UWSP baseball team, is to make the Regionals.  I don't think that is far fetched to have as an expectation considering their tradition and past success.  Unless UWSP puts together a great run at the Conference Tourney, which I don't see happening with the lack of pitching depth, Jirschele will fail to do that in his 2 years.  I think anybody associated with the team can be disappointed with that.  NOT ONCE did I say I expected them to make the National Championship series, so maybe stop throwing words in my mouth.

That is a fair statement about upperclassmen needed to be successful, and I agree with that.  But, don't act like Jirschele's recruiting classes were filled with just incoming freshman.  The transfers he has brought in have been less than stellar.  That's a nice way of putting it when we are talking about Mulzer and Zeihen.  So, Jirschele needs to evaluate the recruits a little better in my eyes.  I couldn't care less if you have a different opinion.

I don't know why this Kawlewski conversation keeps going on and on with you.  I've stated my opinion.  He has had 2 great starts mixed with average to below average starts.  I have zero confidence in his consistency.
Not throwing words in your mouth, just trying to interpret what you stated....

You stated that Jirschele "hasn't improved the program."  Well since they were qualifying for Regionals on a regular basis under Bloom and made multiple appearances at the World Series, how else could Jirschele improve upon what Point was already doing other than qualifying for the National Championship series?  That would seem to be about only way to improve on Point's previous success. No?

Yes, I stated he hasn't improved the program.  Bloom regularly had the team in Regionals...and beyond....Jirschele hasn't sniffed Regionals yet.  So yes, he hasn't improved the program...he hasn't even kept up the program.  Saying he hasn't improved the program was a nicer way of me putting the program has declined with him at the helm.  Whitewater, La Crosse and Oshkosh have been able to out-recruit Point the last couple years.  It will be tough sledding for Jirschele to have a team regularly making the Regionals the way things are going now.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 24, 2017, 12:28:38 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on April 24, 2017, 10:06:06 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 24, 2017, 09:22:55 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on April 24, 2017, 08:42:10 AM
My expectation for a UWSP baseball team, is to make the Regionals.  I don't think that is far fetched to have as an expectation considering their tradition and past success.  Unless UWSP puts together a great run at the Conference Tourney, which I don't see happening with the lack of pitching depth, Jirschele will fail to do that in his 2 years.  I think anybody associated with the team can be disappointed with that.  NOT ONCE did I say I expected them to make the National Championship series, so maybe stop throwing words in my mouth.

That is a fair statement about upperclassmen needed to be successful, and I agree with that.  But, don't act like Jirschele's recruiting classes were filled with just incoming freshman.  The transfers he has brought in have been less than stellar.  That's a nice way of putting it when we are talking about Mulzer and Zeihen.  So, Jirschele needs to evaluate the recruits a little better in my eyes.  I couldn't care less if you have a different opinion.

I don't know why this Kawlewski conversation keeps going on and on with you.  I've stated my opinion.  He has had 2 great starts mixed with average to below average starts.  I have zero confidence in his consistency.
Not throwing words in your mouth, just trying to interpret what you stated....

You stated that Jirschele "hasn't improved the program."  Well since they were qualifying for Regionals on a regular basis under Bloom and made multiple appearances at the World Series, how else could Jirschele improve upon what Point was already doing other than qualifying for the National Championship series?  That would seem to be about only way to improve on Point's previous success. No?

Yes, I stated he hasn't improved the program.  Bloom regularly had the team in Regionals...and beyond....Jirschele hasn't sniffed Regionals yet.  So yes, he hasn't improved the program...he hasn't even kept up the program.  Saying he hasn't improved the program was a nicer way of me putting the program has declined with him at the helm.  Whitewater, La Crosse and Oshkosh have been able to out-recruit Point the last couple years.  It will be tough sledding for Jirschele to have a team regularly making the Regionals the way things are going now.
Just something to keep in mind.... 

Point had made Regionals five times in a six year period (1997, 1998, 1999, 2001 and 2002) under then coach Brian Nelson.  Bloom then took over and missed Regionals in his first season before making it seven straight times with three World Series appearances. 

I'm guessing there were some questioning Coach Bloom back then just like you are Coach Jirschele right now.  It seemed to work out for Coach Bloom, so why not give Coach Jirschele the same patience Coach Bloom was afforded? 

Who knows, maybe it will work out similarly?  (Or maybe it won't and you can continue to criticize him!!!)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 24, 2017, 01:13:18 PM
WARHAWKS: 3, 10
Stevens Point: 6, 7

The Pointers took the early lead with a third inning run on a lead off walk and single in game one.  The WARHAWKS answered that run in the fifth with a single followed by a Fleischman double and  Krause's sacrifice fly.  However the Pointers regained the lead 2-1 when a lead off single was followed by a hit by pitch and a pair of infield ground outs in the bottom of the inning.  A solo home run by Bryden in the seventh inning knotted the score 2-2 and Aldridge's solo home run in the eighth gave the WARHAWKS their first lead 3-2.  But the Pointers capitalized on a WARHAWKS error, followed by a wild pitch and a pair of singles to load the bases in the bottom of the inning.   A infield single (bunt) brought in the first run and a bases clearing double brought in three more for the 6-3 lead.  Fleischman (4x4) was the only WARHAWK with multiple hits.  Bryden, Krause and Aldridge each had an RBI.  The WARHAWKS stranded 11 runners on base.  Weuthrich (3-1) took the loss allowing 4 earned runs on 5 hits with 3 walks and 10 strikeouts in 7.2 innings.  Kaska allowed three hits and two earned runs with a strikeout in 0.2 inning of relief. 

The WARHAWKS scored a pair of runs in their first at bat in game two.  After the inning started with a single and double Chamberlain's single drove in the first run and a sacrifice fly by Helbing brought in run number two.  The Pointers tied the game when they strung together a pair of hits, a walk and two hit by pitch batters in the second.  The WARHAWKS answered those two run with two of their own in the third when Kuczynski's RBI single brought a runner home and a Pointer error plated a second run.  After neither team could score in both the fourth and fifth innings the Pointers exploded for five runs in the cursed sixth when they coupled four hits with an error and a hit by pitch batter to go on top 7-4.  The Pointers threatened again in the seventh but stranded a pair of runners.  The WARHAWKS opened the eighth with singles by Aldridge and Aiello.  Aiello was forced at second on Bryden's fielders choice ground ball but after Fleischman was struck out for out number two Krause was walked on four consecutive pitches loading the bases for Chamberlain who drove an 0-2 pitch over the right field fence for a grand slam and a 10-7 WARHAWKS lead.  The Pointers put a single runner on base in both the eighth and ninth innings but Nompleggi was up to the task striking out three for the win.  Fleischman (3x5, 1 RS, 2B),  Chamberlain (3x5, 2 RS, 5 RBI, HR), White (3x5, 1 RS, RBI) and Aldridge (2X3, 1 RS) all had multiple hits in the 16 hit WARHAWKS offense.  Bryden (1), Kuczynski (1) and Helbing (1) had an RBI.  Fleischman finished the day 7x9.  Shah started and went 5 innings giving up 6 runs (5 earned) on 5 hits with a pair of strikeouts, 3 walks and 4 hit batters.  Kaska surrendered an unearned run allowing 1 hit with a strike out in 0.1 inning.  Nompleggi (3-0) got the win pitching 3.2 shutout innings while striking out 5 and allowing 3 hits.   

Records just don't seem to matter when these two programs meet.  The rivalry just seems to over ride that.  While I was hoping we'd take 3 of 4 after Saturday's loss a split is a hell of a lot better than 1-3 so I can't really complain.  We still control our own destiny.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 25, 2017, 10:25:15 AM
Now that teams have close to 30 games in and we are over half way through the WIAC regular season, who does everyone think is the favorite for the WIAC Pitcher and Position Player of the Year awards?

Does Caleb Boushley make it back-to-back seasons winning the Pitcher of the Year award, or do Austin Jones, Heath Renz or Colan Treml prevent it from happening?

With Johnny Eagan leading the WIAC in hits, runs scored  and OBP%, is he in the running for the Position Player of the Year, or do the power numbers of Steve Chamberlain or Blake Fleischman trump him?

Gotta believe unlike last season, both of the winners might not be decided until the final WIAC game of the season....  Should be interesting!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 25, 2017, 10:39:10 AM
For what I believe to be the first time this season a WIAC athlete has been selected to the D3baseball.com Team of the Week.  Actually it's two WIAC athletes and making it even more unusual they are both Titans.  Senior third baseman Tyler Kozlowski has been selected as a position player and sophomore Colan Treml one of the starting pitchers.  Congrats to both.

For further details: http://www.d3baseball.com/awards/team-of-the-week/2017/week11
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on April 25, 2017, 03:04:20 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 25, 2017, 10:25:15 AM
Gotta believe unlike last season, both of the winners might not be decided until the final WIAC game of the season....  Should be interesting!!!

I believe you may be absolutely correct on that.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on April 25, 2017, 03:05:25 PM
Does anyone happen to know if UWSP archives the games that they provide live video, or if they are available online even for a period of time after the conclusion of the game?

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on April 25, 2017, 03:22:01 PM
Things are setting up nicely for UWO. They've got an outside chance of hosting but even if that doesn't happen it looks like they'll be matching up with UWSP in the first round of the conference tourney. They won't have to face Boushley or everything that UWW has to throw at you. Maybe they can steal a game in the 2nd round from UWW and be in the driver's seat for the rest of the tournament and get the automatic bid.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 25, 2017, 03:32:50 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 25, 2017, 03:22:01 PM
Things are setting up nicely for UWO. They've got an outside chance of hosting but even if that doesn't happen it looks like they'll be matching up with UWSP in the first round of the conference tourney. They won't have to face Boushley or everything that UWW has to throw at you. Maybe they can steal a game in the 2nd round from UWW and be in the driver's seat for the rest of the tournament and get the automatic bid.
One thing to keep in mind however is that UWO didn't have much success against Ercikson earlier this season and I'd be shocked if he didn't throw in Point's first WIAC Tournament game.

Erickson shut out UWO 4-0 earlier this season (beating Treml) limiting UWO to just four harmless singles in eight innings of work.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 26, 2017, 10:18:54 AM
Standings & Results (Thru 4/26)

WARHAWKS: 13-3
Platteville: 15-5
Lacrosse: 12-6
Oshkosh: 9-8
Stevens Point: 8-8
Stout: 3-12

WARHAWKS: St Thomas (W 5-2, W 10-1), Concordia Moorhead (L 0-1, W 3-2), Wm Paterson (W 9-7), Webster (W 10-2), Rutgers-Camden (W 7-2), Southern Maine (W 5-4), Clarkson (W 3-1), Union (W 7-6), St Scholastica  (W, 10-5, L 8-10), Ripon (W 8-2, W 9-8), Concordia (Wi) (L 3-21), Milwaukee School of Engineering (W 21-4)

Lacrosse: St Johns (L 0-1, W 6-0), Concordia-Chicago (W 6-2), College of New Jersey (W 6-4), Wm Paterson (L 4-5), Webster (L 0-4), Rampo (W 5-3), Southern Maine (W 4-2), Benedictine (W 10-5), Cornell (W 3-1,  W 10-2), St Mary's (W 4-3, W 7-3), St Scholastica (L 5-6, L 7-10), St Thomas (W 5-2, L 4-9), Milwaukee School of Engineering (W 4-0)

Platteville: Fontbonne (W 6-4), Buena Vista (L 0-10), Ripon (W 8-2), Stockton (W 5-2), McDaniel (L 0-5), College of New Jersey (L 7-8), Minn Morris (W 7-2), Eastern Connecticut (W 7-4), Western New England (L 0-3), Simpson (W 14-7, W 10-2), Northland (W 5-3, W 6-1), Marian (W 6-1, W 4-3), Illinois Institute of Technology (W 6-4, W 3-2), Illinois Institute of Technology (W 14-10, W 10-5), Edgewood (L 2-4)

Oshkosh: Adrian (W 8-4), Birmingham Southern (L 3-6), Transylvania (W 8-4), Mass-Boston (L 3-4), Eastern Connecticut (L 5-17), Clarkson (L 14-16), Washington Jefferson (W 4-1), Bowdoin (W 6-1, W 10-0), St Thomas (W 3-2), Union (W 6-1), St Scholastica (L 4-5, L 3-4), St Mary's (L 1-4, W 8-3), Concordia (WI) (L 2-3), Ripon (W 14-2), Benedictine (L 2-5), Ripon (W 5-3)

Stevens Point: St Thomas (L 2-6, L 5-7), Clarkson (W 6-5), Rampo (L 4-6, L 5-15), Westfield State (W 9-3), St Olaf (W 7-1), Worcester State (W 13-3), Southern Maine (L 4-6, L 4-6), Benedictine (L 1-11), Washington Jefferson (W 5-4), Ripon (W 6-1, W 15-14), St Norbert (L 1-8, W 4-1)

Stout: Bethel (W 1-0, L 0-8), Hamline (L 1-2, W 6-1), Augsburg (L 1-5, L 4-7), New York University (L 6-17), Wisconsin Lutheran (L 6-8), Skidmore (L 1-12), LaSalle (W 9-6), North Park (L 1-8), Western Connecticut (L 3-20), Edgewood (L 1-6), St Thomas (L 1-4, L 0-2)

WIAC: 61-43 (.586)

Out of conference only.



Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on April 26, 2017, 01:37:12 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 25, 2017, 10:25:15 AM
Now that teams have close to 30 games in and we are over half way through the WIAC regular season, who does everyone think is the favorite for the WIAC Pitcher and Position Player of the Year awards?

Does Caleb Boushley make it back-to-back seasons winning the Pitcher of the Year award, or do Austin Jones, Heath Renz or Colan Treml prevent it from happening?

With Johnny Eagan leading the WIAC in hits, runs scored  and OBP%, is he in the running for the Position Player of the Year, or do the power numbers of Steve Chamberlain or Blake Fleischman trump him?

Gotta believe unlike last season, both of the winners might not be decided until the final WIAC game of the season....  Should be interesting!!!
What stats do they use for POYs and All Conference teams? Is it conference stats only or cumulative?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on April 26, 2017, 04:34:54 PM
With the days-long deluge about to consume nearly the entire state of Wisconsin, the Stout/Oshkosh weekend series has been moved to Fri/Sat. Others may follow suit.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 26, 2017, 08:48:11 PM
Ripon/Oshkosh was the only game played to today.  Everyone else is either postponed or cancelled (St Scholastica/Stevens Point)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on April 26, 2017, 09:51:43 PM
http://www.lakecountrynow.com/story/sports/blogs/preps-alcove/2017/04/26/preps-alcove-potential-no-1-pick-and-other-wisconsin-connections-upcoming-mlb-draft/100689594/ (http://www.lakecountrynow.com/story/sports/blogs/preps-alcove/2017/04/26/preps-alcove-potential-no-1-pick-and-other-wisconsin-connections-upcoming-mlb-draft/100689594/)

Little tidbit on Austin Jones' draft stock.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 27, 2017, 09:58:33 AM
Thanks tom
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 27, 2017, 10:22:05 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on April 26, 2017, 09:51:43 PM
http://www.lakecountrynow.com/story/sports/blogs/preps-alcove/2017/04/26/preps-alcove-potential-no-1-pick-and-other-wisconsin-connections-upcoming-mlb-draft/100689594/ (http://www.lakecountrynow.com/story/sports/blogs/preps-alcove/2017/04/26/preps-alcove-potential-no-1-pick-and-other-wisconsin-connections-upcoming-mlb-draft/100689594/)

Little tidbit on Austin Jones' draft stock.

Dare we say that Wisconsin has become a hotbed for baseball talent?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 27, 2017, 10:46:37 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 27, 2017, 10:22:05 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on April 26, 2017, 09:51:43 PM
http://www.lakecountrynow.com/story/sports/blogs/preps-alcove/2017/04/26/preps-alcove-potential-no-1-pick-and-other-wisconsin-connections-upcoming-mlb-draft/100689594/ (http://www.lakecountrynow.com/story/sports/blogs/preps-alcove/2017/04/26/preps-alcove-potential-no-1-pick-and-other-wisconsin-connections-upcoming-mlb-draft/100689594/)

Little tidbit on Austin Jones' draft stock.

Dare we say that Wisconsin has become a hotbed for baseball talent?

Compared to Wisconsin of days gone by or similar states like Minnesota? Maybe.

Compared to other states like California and Texas? Not a chance.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on April 27, 2017, 03:22:59 PM
Austin Jones has not hurt his chances in this years draft with his performance on the field.  I can easily expect him to be a top D-III pick
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 27, 2017, 03:54:49 PM
I think Renz also has a shot at being drafted though in later rounds.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on April 27, 2017, 04:12:47 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 26, 2017, 01:37:12 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 25, 2017, 10:25:15 AM
Now that teams have close to 30 games in and we are over half way through the WIAC regular season, who does everyone think is the favorite for the WIAC Pitcher and Position Player of the Year awards?

Does Caleb Boushley make it back-to-back seasons winning the Pitcher of the Year award, or do Austin Jones, Heath Renz or Colan Treml prevent it from happening?

With Johnny Eagan leading the WIAC in hits, runs scored  and OBP%, is he in the running for the Position Player of the Year, or do the power numbers of Steve Chamberlain or Blake Fleischman trump him?

Gotta believe unlike last season, both of the winners might not be decided until the final WIAC game of the season....  Should be interesting!!!
What stats do they use for POYs and All Conference teams? Is it conference stats only or cumulative?

From the 2017 WIAC Sport Code
All-Conference/Players of the Year
The WIAC All-Conference Baseball Team, consisting of 12 position players (regardless of position) and eight (8) pitchers, and Players of the Year will be selected by the coaches at the conclusion of the regular season as follows:
 Coaches may nominate players from their team only.
 Coaches must vote for 12 position players and eight (8) pitchers.
 Coaches cannot vote for their own players.
 Any player not selected, but receiving one (1) or more votes, will be given honorable mention recognition and will receive a certificate.
 Only conference statistics will be used in the selection process.
 All-conference selections will receive a plaque from the conference.
 A position player and pitcher will be designated as players of the year. The recipients will receive plaques provided by Rawlings.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on April 28, 2017, 02:09:23 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on April 27, 2017, 04:12:47 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 26, 2017, 01:37:12 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 25, 2017, 10:25:15 AM
Now that teams have close to 30 games in and we are over half way through the WIAC regular season, who does everyone think is the favorite for the WIAC Pitcher and Position Player of the Year awards?

Does Caleb Boushley make it back-to-back seasons winning the Pitcher of the Year award, or do Austin Jones, Heath Renz or Colan Treml prevent it from happening?

With Johnny Eagan leading the WIAC in hits, runs scored  and OBP%, is he in the running for the Position Player of the Year, or do the power numbers of Steve Chamberlain or Blake Fleischman trump him?

Gotta believe unlike last season, both of the winners might not be decided until the final WIAC game of the season....  Should be interesting!!!
What stats do they use for POYs and All Conference teams? Is it conference stats only or cumulative?

From the 2017 WIAC Sport Code
All-Conference/Players of the Year
The WIAC All-Conference Baseball Team, consisting of 12 position players (regardless of position) and eight (8) pitchers, and Players of the Year will be selected by the coaches at the conclusion of the regular season as follows:
 Coaches may nominate players from their team only.
 Coaches must vote for 12 position players and eight (8) pitchers.
 Coaches cannot vote for their own players.
 Any player not selected, but receiving one (1) or more votes, will be given honorable mention recognition and will receive a certificate.
 Only conference statistics will be used in the selection process.
 All-conference selections will receive a plaque from the conference.
 A position player and pitcher will be designated as players of the year. The recipients will receive plaques provided by Rawlings.
Thanks. Conference stats definitely makes more sense but I wasn't quite sure.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 28, 2017, 04:21:15 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 25, 2017, 03:22:01 PM
Things are setting up nicely for UWO
Well, Stout throws a wrench into those thoughts as they defeat UWO in Game #1 today, 12-2 in 7 innings via the "mercy rule."
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 28, 2017, 05:31:59 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 27, 2017, 03:22:59 PM
Austin Jones has not hurt his chances in this years draft with his performance on the field.  I can easily expect him to be a top D-III pick.
And right on cue, it appears that Platteville is going to give Jones another loss and salvage a split today as they lead the Warhawks 5-3 in the 9th inning of Game #2.....

Platteville holds on to win Game #2, by that same 5-3 score.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 28, 2017, 06:41:29 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 28, 2017, 04:21:15 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 25, 2017, 03:22:01 PM
Things are setting up nicely for UWO
Well, Stout throws a wrench into those thoughts as they defeat UWO in Game #1 today, 12-2 in 7 innings via the "mercy rule."
Stout takes a 5-4 lead in the 8th inning of Game #2 and is three outs away from sweeping UWO..... 

UWO ends up scoring four runs on just one hit in the 9th inning, as they draw five walks off of Carey, for an 8-5 victory and avoid being swept by Stout.  The five walks allowed by Carey was more than he had allowed all season (4 BB's in 12 IP) entering yesterday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on April 29, 2017, 05:16:57 PM
Cubs, you were saying what again about Kawlewski??
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 29, 2017, 05:39:49 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 29, 2017, 04:04:58 PM
WIAC Standings
Whitewater 13-3
Oshkosh 10-5
Stevens Point 7-5
La Crosse 5-7
Stout 5-10
Platteville 3-13

Whitewater takes three out of four from Platteville, but looked less than stellar in the final three games after mercy-ruling the Pioneers in the series opener Friday.  After losing the nightcap Friday, the Warhawks scored two runs in each of the of the 7th and 8th innings to turn a 5-3 deficit into a 7-5 win in the opener today, and then P Westin Wuethrich stifles Platteville in the series finale as he faces just three batters over the minimum while striking out nine in a complete game three-hitter (second inning double and a pair of ninth inning singles) as Whitewater wins 5-0.  (Whitewater scored three runs in the bottom of the 8th inning to break open a close game.)

After splitting with Stout yesterday, UWO squeaks out a 3-2 victory in the opener today.

La Crosse vs Point yet to start today....

Both 9th inning singles never went further than half way down the third base line though one was a perfectly executed bunt hit. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2017, 05:46:21 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on April 29, 2017, 05:16:57 PM
Cubs, you were saying what again about Kawlewski??
That he beat the top two offenses in the WIAC....  Is that not true?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 29, 2017, 06:08:00 PM
Platteville: 0
WARHAWKS: 10

Heath Renz limited the Pioneers to just four hits and struck out six while picking up his sixth win on the season with a complete game shortened to seven innings by the run rule.  Kevin White went 3x3 including a solo home run and RBI double, scored a pair and drove in three runs to lead the WARHAWKS offense.  Matt Wary also had multiple hits (2x4) which include a double and scored twice.  Bryden, Fleischman, Chamberlain and Aiello also drove in runs. 

Platteville: 5
WARHAWKS: 3

Pioneer pitching held the WARHAWKS to just four hits in game two and pulled out a 5-3 win breaking a 3-3 tie with single runs in the seventh and ninth.  The WARHAWKS had an early 2-0 lead on an RBI single from Chamberlain in the first and a sacrifice bunt from Aldridge in the second.  After the Pioneers cut the deficit in half with a single run in the third Fleischman added an RBI single in the bottom of the inning pushing the WARHAWKS advantage back to a pair 3-1.  But the Pioneers were able to score an unearned run and another when a batter was hit by a pitch with the bases loaded in the fifth to tie the game before adding single insurance runs in the eighth and ninth.  Chamberlain (2x3) had half of the WARHAWKS hits and an RBI.  Flieschman and Aldridge each had an RBI.  Jones took the loss, his second, surrendering nine hits, 4 runs (3 earned) while walking 3 and striking out 9 in 6.2 innings.  Kaska relieved allowing a single unearned run on 2 hits and striking out a pair in 2.2 innings.  Cal Krafcheck won his 12th game of the season.

Taking Point and Oshkosh's splitting yesterday into account this was a missed opportunity.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on April 29, 2017, 06:23:14 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 29, 2017, 05:46:21 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on April 29, 2017, 05:16:57 PM
Cubs, you were saying what again about Kawlewski??
That he beat the top two offenses in the WIAC....  Is that not true?

Quite a bit more than that but go ahead and play dumb.  I guess questioning his consistency was right on the money.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2017, 06:30:00 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on April 29, 2017, 06:23:14 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 29, 2017, 05:46:21 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on April 29, 2017, 05:16:57 PM
Cubs, you were saying what again about Kawlewski??
That he beat the top two offenses in the WIAC....  Is that not true?
Quite a bit more than that but go ahead and play dumb.  I guess questioning his consistency was right on the money.
Every single post I made on the subject....

Kawlewski holds Whitewater to two runs on eight hits over seven innings while striking out eight and walking three in Point's 6-3 victory over the Warhawks.

So does beating the #3 team in the nation according to d3baseball.com justify Jirschele having Kawlewski as a weekend starter?


In a short season like D3 baseball, one or two outings can make it so your overall stats aren't impressive regardless of what you do the rest of the season.  With that said, I'm guessing Kawlewski is still in the Top 10 in the WIAC in ERA at the end of the weekend despite his rough start.  That seems to be pretty respectable for your #2 starter (unless you are Whitewater!!!)  Take a look at his stats once Point returned from Florida.  Three starts, 22 IP, 5 runs (all earned,) 17 K's/8 BB's.  Maybe not "ace" material, but far from "getting hit around the park."

Finally, Point has now beaten arguably two of the Top 3 offenses in the WIAC with Kawlewski on the mound.  Even 2015 WIAC Pitcher of the Year Mitch Beau didn't throw well down on Florida, but once the team returned to Wisconsin he was a different pitcher (except for an April start against Whitewater where he gave up 13 runs.)

I didn't say he was an "ace," that he would be an All WIAC selection, or anything similar, so what are you trying to get at?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2017, 06:55:52 PM
Not sure if anyone else has noticed, but Stout and La Crosse "Live Stats" leave a bit to be desired.... 

Stout's stopped with two outs in the 9th inning of Game #1 today, and has done the same thing in the bottom of the 8th inning of Game #2.

La Crosse never even got their's going today...  Why post a link if they aren't going to be active?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 29, 2017, 07:16:41 PM
Stout goes into the seventh leading 5-1 and then gives up 14 runs in the Titans final three at bats.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2017, 07:21:34 PM
WIAC Standings
Whitewater 13-3
Oshkosh 11-5
La Crosse 8-8
Stevens Point 8-8
Stout 5-11
Platteville 3-13

Whitewater takes three out of four from Platteville, but looked less than stellar in the final three games after mercy-ruling the Pioneers in the series opener Friday.  After losing the nightcap Friday, the Warhawks scored two runs in each of the of the 7th and 8th innings to turn a 5-3 deficit into a 7-5 win in the opener today, and then P Westin Wuethrich stifles Platteville in the series finale as he faces just three batters over the minimum while striking out nine in a complete game three-hitter (second inning double and a pair of ninth inning singles) as Whitewater wins 5-0.  (Whitewater scored three runs in the bottom of the 8th inning to break open a close game.)

After splitting with Stout yesterday, UWO squeaks out a 3-2 victory in the opener today and follows that up by scoring two runs in the 7th inning, five in the 8th inning, and seven in the ninth inning to turn a 5-1 deficit into a 15-5 victory in Game #2.  Similar to Whitewater, UWO looked less than stellar over the four game series, however they were able to win three out of four going into the final WIAC series against Whitewater next weekend.

La Crosse sends 17 batters to the plate in the first inning and scores 11 runs (left bases loaded.)  Kawlewski started and faced seven batters, retiring just one.  Mulzer came on in relief but didn't do any better, as he also retired only one of the seven batters he faced.  Miller came in and got the final out after walking a pair of batters.  Point scored twice in the Top of the 1st inning, but after a 52 minute inning, it wouldn't surprise me if people forgot about it!!!  Point chips away throughout, however La Crosse uses the 11 runs they score in the first inning to coast to an 11-7 victory in Game #1 today.  La Crosse gets the sweep as they win Game #2 by a 2-1 score.  Cook and Rude combine to hold Point to just seven hits while catcher Nate Roethle goes 3 for 3 on stolen base attempts shutting down the Pointer running game and squashing a couple of Pointer scoring chances.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2017, 07:25:11 PM
As long as Whitewater splits or better next weekend, they will host the WIAC Tournament.

UWO needs to take three out of four in order to host, however they could also end up as the #4 seed should Whitewater sweep them next week.  If UWO beats Whitewater at least once, they will secure the #3 seed at worst (even if La Crosse sweeps Platteville) as they would hold the tiebreaker over La Crosse by virtue of that one victory over Whitewater.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 30, 2017, 12:22:39 PM
Platteville: 5
WARHAWKS: 7

A strange game.  The WARHAWKS pound the ball recording 16 hits but leaving 13 runners on base including bases loaded twice and runners in scoring position in three other innings. It just seemed everything was happening with two outs and missing the clutch it.  Plattevile gets a run in the second but the WARHAWKS match it with a Bryden RBI single in the bottom of the inning.  The Pioneers retake the lead with a pair in the third but again the WARHAWKS match them when Aldridge triples in our at bat.  The 3-3 score stands to the seventh when the Pioneers score another pair.  However like every other occasion the WARHAWKS tie the game with RBI singles by Wary and Aiello.  The pattern is finally broken by the WARHAWKS in the eighth when a Pioneer fielding error allowed Krause to score and Aldridge singled in another.  Shah started but struggled.  The leftie lasted only 2.1 innings after allowing 3 runs, 2 earned, on 4 hits and a pair of base on balls.  Shah stuck out 3.  Kaska relieved going 4.2 innings while allowing a pair of earned runs on 4 hits with a pair of walks and 3 strikeouts.  Nompleggi picked up his 4th win allowing just a single hit and striking out a single batter in the final two innings.  Bryden (3x4, RBI, 2B), Chamberlain (2x4, RS), Wary (3x5, RS, RBI) and Aldridge (3x5m 2 RS, 3 RBI, 3B) all had multiple hits. 

Platteville: 0
WARHAWKS: 5

Weuthrich was lights out in game two.  The senior right hander pitched a complete game shutout allowing just 3 hits, two infield hits, and striking out 9 for his fourth win of the season.  The WARHAWKS got single runs in the third and fifth innings on RBI singles, both by Fleischman and added three more in the eighth when Aldridge's ground rule double drove in a pair and Kuczynski's perfectly executed suicide squeeze bunt score another.  Fleischman (3x4, 2 RBI) and Aldridge (2x3, RS, RBI, 2B) had multiple hits.  Wary (1x4, RS, RBI) and Kuczynski (1X3, 2 RS, RBI, 2B) drove in runs. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on May 01, 2017, 12:31:39 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 28, 2017, 02:09:23 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on April 27, 2017, 04:12:47 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 26, 2017, 01:37:12 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 25, 2017, 10:25:15 AM
Now that teams have close to 30 games in and we are over half way through the WIAC regular season, who does everyone think is the favorite for the WIAC Pitcher and Position Player of the Year awards?

Does Caleb Boushley make it back-to-back seasons winning the Pitcher of the Year award, or do Austin Jones, Heath Renz or Colan Treml prevent it from happening?

With Johnny Eagan leading the WIAC in hits, runs scored  and OBP%, is he in the running for the Position Player of the Year, or do the power numbers of Steve Chamberlain or Blake Fleischman trump him?

Gotta believe unlike last season, both of the winners might not be decided until the final WIAC game of the season....  Should be interesting!!!
What stats do they use for POYs and All Conference teams? Is it conference stats only or cumulative?

From the 2017 WIAC Sport Code
All-Conference/Players of the Year
The WIAC All-Conference Baseball Team, consisting of 12 position players (regardless of position) and eight (8) pitchers, and Players of the Year will be selected by the coaches at the conclusion of the regular season as follows:
 Coaches may nominate players from their team only.
 Coaches must vote for 12 position players and eight (8) pitchers.
 Coaches cannot vote for their own players.
 Any player not selected, but receiving one (1) or more votes, will be given honorable mention recognition and will receive a certificate.
 Only conference statistics will be used in the selection process.
 All-conference selections will receive a plaque from the conference.
 A position player and pitcher will be designated as players of the year. The recipients will receive plaques provided by Rawlings.
Thanks. Conference stats definitely makes more sense but I wasn't quite sure.

Updated conference-only stats through today. Just one more reason the UWW/UWO series is going to be very compelling.

http://static.wiacsports.com/custompages/baseball/2017/lgconf.htm (http://static.wiacsports.com/custompages/baseball/2017/lgconf.htm)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 02, 2017, 08:35:23 PM
Standings & Results (Thru 5/2)

WARHAWKS: 13-3
Platteville: 15-5
Lacrosse: 14-6
Oshkosh: 9-8
Stevens Point: 8-8
Stout: 3-12

WARHAWKS: St Thomas (W 5-2, W 10-1), Concordia Moorhead (L 0-1, W 3-2), Wm Paterson (W 9-7), Webster (W 10-2), Rutgers-Camden (W 7-2), Southern Maine (W 5-4), Clarkson (W 3-1), Union (W 7-6), St Scholastica  (W, 10-5, L 8-10), Ripon (W 8-2, W 9-8), Concordia (Wi) (L 3-21), Milwaukee School of Engineering (W 21-4)

Lacrosse: St Johns (L 0-1, W 6-0), Concordia-Chicago (W 6-2), College of New Jersey (W 6-4), Wm Paterson (L 4-5), Webster (L 0-4), Rampo (W 5-3), Southern Maine (W 4-2), Benedictine (W 10-5), Cornell (W 3-1,  W 10-2), St Mary's (W 4-3, W 7-3), St Scholastica (L 5-6, L 7-10), St Thomas (W 5-2, L 4-9), Milwaukee School of Engineering (W 4-0), St Olaf (W 16-4, W 6-4)

Platteville: Fontbonne (W 6-4), Buena Vista (L 0-10), Ripon (W 8-2), Stockton (W 5-2), McDaniel (L 0-5), College of New Jersey (L 7-8), Minn Morris (W 7-2), Eastern Connecticut (W 7-4), Western New England (L 0-3), Simpson (W 14-7, W 10-2), Northland (W 5-3, W 6-1), Marian (W 6-1, W 4-3), Illinois Institute of Technology (W 6-4, W 3-2), Illinois Institute of Technology (W 14-10, W 10-5), Edgewood (L 2-4)

Oshkosh: Adrian (W 8-4), Birmingham Southern (L 3-6), Transylvania (W 8-4), Mass-Boston (L 3-4), Eastern Connecticut (L 5-17), Clarkson (L 14-16), Washington Jefferson (W 4-1), Bowdoin (W 6-1, W 10-0), St Thomas (W 3-2), Union (W 6-1), St Scholastica (L 4-5, L 3-4), St Mary's (L 1-4, W 8-3), Concordia (WI) (L 2-3), Ripon (W 14-2), Benedictine (L 2-5), Ripon (W 5-3)

Stevens Point: St Thomas (L 2-6, L 5-7), Clarkson (W 6-5), Rampo (L 4-6, L 5-15), Westfield State (W 9-3), St Olaf (W 7-1), Worcester State (W 13-3), Southern Maine (L 4-6, L 4-6), Benedictine (L 1-11), Washington Jefferson (W 5-4), Ripon (W 6-1, W 15-14), St Norbert (L 1-8, W 4-1)

Stout: Bethel (W 1-0, L 0-8), Hamline (L 1-2, W 6-1), Augsburg (L 1-5, L 4-7), New York University (L 6-17), Wisconsin Lutheran (L 6-8), Skidmore (L 1-12), LaSalle (W 9-6), North Park (L 1-8), Western Connecticut (L 3-20), Edgewood (L 1-6), St Thomas (L 1-4, L 0-2)

WIAC: 63-43 (.594)

Out of conference only.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 03, 2017, 10:14:27 AM
Facing a grueling 8 games in 5 days schedule the WARHAWKS have cancelled today's doubleheader against Benedictine.  So it's down to 6 games in 3 days instead.  Doubleheaders with Oshkosh Friday and Saturday and a doubleheader with St Norbert Sunday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on May 03, 2017, 10:40:03 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 03, 2017, 10:14:27 AM
Facing a grueling 8 games in 5 days schedule the WARHAWKS have cancelled today's doubleheader against Benedictine.  So it's down to 6 games in 3 days instead.  Doubleheaders with Oshkosh Friday and Saturday and a doubleheader with St Norbert Sunday.
Benedictine had to reschedule a conference DH, which will now be played today.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 03, 2017, 12:08:49 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on May 03, 2017, 10:40:03 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 03, 2017, 10:14:27 AM
Facing a grueling 8 games in 5 days schedule the WARHAWKS have cancelled today's doubleheader against Benedictine.  So it's down to 6 games in 3 days instead.  Doubleheaders with Oshkosh Friday and Saturday and a doubleheader with St Norbert Sunday.
Benedictine had to reschedule a conference DH, which will now be played today.

That probably was more a reason than our schedule.  I just really didn't like the idea of 8 games in 5 days.  Thanks for the information.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on May 03, 2017, 12:26:51 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 03, 2017, 12:08:49 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on May 03, 2017, 10:40:03 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 03, 2017, 10:14:27 AM
Facing a grueling 8 games in 5 days schedule the WARHAWKS have cancelled today's doubleheader against Benedictine.  So it's down to 6 games in 3 days instead.  Doubleheaders with Oshkosh Friday and Saturday and a doubleheader with St Norbert Sunday.
Benedictine had to reschedule a conference DH, which will now be played today.

That probably was more a reason than our schedule.  I just really didn't like the idea of 8 games in 5 days.  Thanks for the information.

I don't think anyone did. That's a recipe for injury, IMO ... I imagine there were arms breathing a sigh of relief at the news. Six-in-three is plenty.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 03, 2017, 01:59:47 PM
Looks like the WIAC will be a short stop for Illinois Tech:
http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2017/05/illinois-tech-to-nacc
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 03, 2017, 02:53:52 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 03, 2017, 01:59:47 PM
Looks like the WIAC will be a short stop for Illinois Tech:
http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2017/05/illinois-tech-to-nacc
I wonder if having 7 teams for one season (2018) will reset the WIAC's two-year grace period in keeping their AQ?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 03, 2017, 03:01:49 PM
Great question and I have no idea.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 03, 2017, 06:10:08 PM
I asked the same question on the other forum before opening this one.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 04, 2017, 11:43:54 AM

Standings & Results (Thru 5/4)

WARHAWKS: 13-3
Platteville: 15-5
Lacrosse: 14-6
Oshkosh: 10-8
Stout: 4-13

WARHAWKS: St Thomas (W 5-2, W 10-1), Concordia Moorhead (L 0-1, W 3-2), Wm Paterson (W 9-7), Webster (W 10-2), Rutgers-Camden (W 7-2), Southern Maine (W 5-4), Clarkson (W 3-1), Union (W 7-6), St Scholastica  (W, 10-5, L 8-10), Ripon (W 8-2, W 9-8), Concordia (Wi) (L 3-21), Milwaukee School of Engineering (W 21-4)

Lacrosse: St Johns (L 0-1, W 6-0), Concordia-Chicago (W 6-2), College of New Jersey (W 6-4), Wm Paterson (L 4-5), Webster (L 0-4), Rampo (W 5-3), Southern Maine (W 4-2), Benedictine (W 10-5), Cornell (W 3-1,  W 10-2), St Mary's (W 4-3, W 7-3), St Scholastica (L 5-6, L 7-10), St Thomas (W 5-2, L 4-9), Milwaukee School of Engineering (W 4-0), St Olaf (W 16-4, W 6-4)

Platteville: Fontbonne (W 6-4), Buena Vista (L 0-10), Ripon (W 8-2), Stockton (W 5-2), McDaniel (L 0-5), College of New Jersey (L 7-8), Minn Morris (W 7-2), Eastern Connecticut (W 7-4), Western New England (L 0-3), Simpson (W 14-7, W 10-2), Northland (W 5-3, W 6-1), Marian (W 6-1, W 4-3), Illinois Institute of Technology (W 6-4, W 3-2), Illinois Institute of Technology (W 14-10, W 10-5), Edgewood (L 2-4)

Oshkosh: Adrian (W 8-4), Birmingham Southern (L 3-6), Transylvania (W 8-4), Mass-Boston (L 3-4), Eastern Connecticut (L 5-17), Clarkson (L 14-16), Washington Jefferson (W 4-1), Bowdoin (W 6-1, W 10-0), St Thomas (W 3-2), Union (W 6-1), St Scholastica (L 4-5, L 3-4), St Mary's (L 1-4, W 8-3), Concordia (WI) (L 2-3), Ripon (W 14-2), Benedictine (L 2-5), Ripon (W 5-3), Edgewood (W 6-1)

Stevens Point: St Thomas (L 2-6, L 5-7), Clarkson (W 6-5), Rampo (L 4-6, L 5-15), Westfield State (W 9-3), St Olaf (W 7-1), Worcester State (W 13-3), Southern Maine (L 4-6, L 4-6), Benedictine (L 1-11), Washington Jefferson (W 5-4), Ripon (W 6-1, W 15-14), St Norbert (L 1-8, W 4-1)

Stout: Bethel (W 1-0, L 0-8), Hamline (L 1-2, W 6-1), Augsburg (L 1-5, L 4-7), New York University (L 6-17), Wisconsin Lutheran (L 6-8), Skidmore (L 1-12), LaSalle (W 9-6), North Park (L 1-8), Western Connecticut (L 3-20), Edgewood (L 1-6), St Thomas (L 1-4, L 0-2), Superior (L 1-11) (W 20-10)

WIAC: 65-44 (.600)

Out of conference only.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 04, 2017, 02:03:22 PM
I decided to look into last year's Pool C bids a little deeper since there seems to be some differing of opinions on the WIAC's chances at earning a Pool C bid.

Here were the records and SOS numbers of the 14 teams to get a Pool C bid last season:
North Central-30-10-SOS-.547
Oswego State-32-9-SOS-.543
College of New Jersey-30-10-SOS.549
Ohio Wesleyan-27-14-SOS-.545
Whitewater-29-14-SOS-.563
Whitworth-29-11-SOS-.520
Shenandoah-32-10-SOS-.535
Frostburg St.-30-12-SOS-.538
Case Western Reserve-26-13-SOS.593
UMass Boston-28-14-SOS-.524
Wartburg-33-11-SOS-.532
WashU-31-16-SOS-.569
Johns Hopkins-26-15-2-SOS-.572
Kean-26-16-SOS-.582

Going off of last year (which I know might be a bit flawed based on what teams have done this year) it appears, you need 14 or less losses to earn a Pool C bid, unless you have a Top 15 Strength of Schedule number, in which case a couple more losses (Kean-#5, Johns Hopkins-#10, WashU-#14.) might be acceptable. 

Going into the weekend, the WIAC Pool C candidates:
La Crosse-22-14-SOS-.580 (#7)-The SOS number will take a "hit" this weekend when they head to Platteville (currently #270, which shows just how weak Platteville's non-conference schedule was this season) for four games.

UWO-22-14-SOS-.553 (#41)-The SOS number should get a bump as they host Whitewater (currently #29) for four games this weekend.

Stevens Point-16-16-SOS-.604 (#2)-The SOS number will drop this weekend as they host Stout (currently #30) for four games this weekend.


In my opinion, La Crosse needs to sweep Platteville in order to head into the WIAC Tournament at 26-14.  Adding two losses onto their profile against a pair of Top 30 SOS teams likely won't hurt their chances at a Pool C bid, and 27-16 or even 26-16 at worse might still be enough to get them in.  They clearly have the best chance of earning a Pool C (unless Whitewater is upset in the WIAC Tournament) among WIAC teams based on being ranked #6 in the second edition of the Midwest Regional rankings which were released this morning.

UWO needs to at least get a split this weekend, and even then I am not sure they would be able to jump La Crosse in the Pool C pecking order, despite possibly finishing ahead of La Crosse in the WIAC standings.  Falling out of the Midwest Regional rankings this week obviously hurts their chances, but splitting with Whitewater this weekend would likely go a long way in returning to the rankings in Week #3.

Stevens Point needs to sweep Stout, and probably would still need to win multiple games at the WIAC Tournament to have even a minuscule shot, like 0.1%.  While the SOS number is great, it likely wouldn't be enough to cancel out the 18 losses (at best)on their record.  Rowan had the #3 SOS last year, but since they went 24-18, it didn't matter as they were left on the outside looking in.  In my opinion, Stevens Point would need to win the WIAC Tournament to qualify for Regionals this year.

Obviously if UWO wins three out of four this weekend against Whitewater (I personally don't see it happening) all of the above would be for naught, but as of today this is how I see things in the WIAC.

Thoughts from anyone else?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on May 04, 2017, 03:42:45 PM
Nothing like a little extra hype for the big weekend series
http://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/2017/05/04/uw-oshkosh-baseball-team-hopes-state-its-case/101277368/ (http://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/2017/05/04/uw-oshkosh-baseball-team-hopes-state-its-case/101277368/)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on May 05, 2017, 09:45:37 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 04, 2017, 02:03:22 PM
In my opinion, La Crosse needs to sweep Platteville in order to head into the WIAC Tournament at 26-14.  Adding two losses onto their profile against a pair of Top 30 SOS teams likely won't hurt their chances at a Pool C bid, and 27-16 or even 26-16 at worse might still be enough to get them in.  They clearly have the best chance of earning a Pool C (unless Whitewater is upset in the WIAC Tournament) among WIAC teams based on being ranked #6 in the second edition of the Midwest Regional rankings which were released this morning.

UWO needs to at least get a split this weekend, and even then I am not sure they would be able to jump La Crosse in the Pool C pecking order, despite possibly finishing ahead of La Crosse in the WIAC standings.  Falling out of the Midwest Regional rankings this week obviously hurts their chances, but splitting with Whitewater this weekend would likely go a long way in returning to the rankings in Week #3.

Stevens Point needs to sweep Stout, and probably would still need to win multiple games at the WIAC Tournament to have even a minuscule shot, like 0.1%.  While the SOS number is great, it likely wouldn't be enough to cancel out the 18 losses (at best)on their record.  Rowan had the #3 SOS last year, but since they went 24-18, it didn't matter as they were left on the outside looking in.  In my opinion, Stevens Point would need to win the WIAC Tournament to qualify for Regionals this year.

Obviously if UWO wins three out of four this weekend against Whitewater (I personally don't see it happening) all of the above would be for naught, but as of today this is how I see things in the WIAC.

Thoughts from anyone else?
This situation reminds of 2012 when UWW finished third and UWSP finished second. UWSP, even though they finished ahead of UWW, lost the first two games of the conference tournament and UWW went 2-2 in the conference tourney and got the at-large bid.

The only way I could see UWL getting in after finishing third in the conference would be if they could pick up two games in the conference tourney AND UWO were two get bounced in their first two games. I just don't see it happening and even if it did, they'll be a long shot.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 05, 2017, 10:04:42 AM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on May 05, 2017, 09:45:37 AM
The only way I could see UWL getting in after finishing third in the conference would be if they could pick up two games in the conference tourney AND UWO were two get bounced in their first two games. I just don't see it happening and even if it did, they'll be a long shot.
If La Crosse sweeps Platteville this weekend to finish 26-14/12-8 while UWO splits to finish 24-16/13-7 entering the WIAC Tournament, it will make for an interesting Midwest Regional Ranking next Thursday....  Despite UWO possibly finishing ahead of La Crosse in the regular season standings, I'm not sure a split against Whitewater will move them from being out of the Regional Ranking to ahead of La Crosse in the Week #3 rankings.

If you truly feel La Crosse is a "long shot" in that scenario above, I can only wonder what your thoughts about UWO's chances at a Pool C would be....  The order of the final Regional Rankings will be the determining factor in who might earn that coveted Pool C bid, not the WIAC Regular season standings.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 05, 2017, 03:19:14 PM
A bit surprised not seeing UWO go with either of their top two pitchers (Treml and Sustachek) in the opening game of the series knowing they need to win three out of four in order to host next weekend....

Whitewater wins Game #1, 9-3....  (Chamberlain with a grand slam in a six run fifth inning for Whitewater)

La Crosse wins Game #1, 11-0 in 8 innings.....

Stevens Point wins Game #1, 15-5 in 7 innings...  (Point puts up 9 runs in the bottom of the 6th inning)

All three Game #1 finals, about what was expected, although how they got to that point might be a bit surprising to some.

Gonna guess Renz wrapped up the WIAC Pitcher of the Year award with his Game #1 performance, as I believe he will end the WIAC portion of the schedule with an ERA of 1.00.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 05, 2017, 07:14:41 PM
Whitewater clinches the WIAC regular season title with a 7-1 victory over UWO in Game #2....  Jones picks up right where Renz left off in Game #1 limiting UWO to just six hits.

La Crosse is nipping at UWO's heels after winning Game #2 over Platteville 4-1 to finish off the DH sweep.

Stout bounces back from the middle inning collapse in Game #1 to shutout Point in Game #2, 6-0.  Noah Brown with a three home run game for Stout.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on May 05, 2017, 07:18:07 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 05, 2017, 07:14:41 PM
Whitewater clinches the WIAC regular season title with a 5-1 victory over UWO in Game #2....  Jones picks up right where Renz left off in Game #1 limiting UWO to just five hits.

La Crosse is nipping at UWO's heels after winning Game #2 over Platteville 4-1 to finish off the DH sweep.

Stout bounces back from the middle inning collapse in Game #1 to shutout Point in Game #2, 6-0.

Two runs in the top of the 9th made it a 7-1 final score, not 5-1...if it matters.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 05, 2017, 07:18:51 PM
Game two final was 7-1.  Oshkosh had 6 hits off Jones.   Details later
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 05, 2017, 07:23:50 PM
Sorry guys....  Forgot to update post after getting scores from other two games.  Ooops!!!  :-[
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 05, 2017, 07:35:46 PM
WIAC Standings
Whitewater 15-3
Oshkosh 11-7
La Crosse 10-8
Stevens Point 9-9
Stout 6-12
Platteville 3-15

Whitewater clinches outright WIAC Championship for the ninth time in 14 years with Coach Vodenlich as Head Coach.  (They also shared it one time as well.)

UWO needs to win once tomorrow, have Stevens Point lose once or La Crosse lose twice to avoid falling to the #4 seed in the WIAC Tournament.

Point clinched a berth in the WIAC Tournament with their Game #1 win over Stout.

Seeds #2, 3, and 4 are still up for grabs as far as where UWO, La Crosse and Point will end up.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BDB on May 05, 2017, 08:39:54 PM
I for one, appreciate all the updates.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 06, 2017, 09:46:53 AM
WARHAWKS: 9
Oskhosh: 3

After four scoreless innings the WARHAWKS erupted for six runs in the fifth.  Kuczynski got things rolling with an RBI infield single that scored Wary on a Titan throwing error.  Fleischman added the second run with a sacrifice fly and Chamberlain put the explanation point on the inning when he drove a ball over the right field fence for a grand slam homer.  A sacrifice fly by Ailleo and infield ground out by Flieschman scored two more WARHAWKS runs in the sixth.  The Titans got a pair in the bottom of the inning on Kloch's two run home run.  The final WARHAWKS run scored in the ninth when Krause hit a sacrifice fly.  Ott's RBI double in the bottom of the inning accounted for the Titans' final run.  Renz went to 7-0 allowing a pair of earned runs on six hits and three walks in seven innings.  Nompleggi finished the final two innings allowing a pair of hits, a single earned run with a walk and three strikeouts.  Kuczynski (3x4, 1 RS), Bryden (2x4, 1 RS) and Wary (2x4, 2 RS) had multiple hits.  Chamberlain (4), Fleischman (2), Krause (1) and Aiello (1) drove in runs.

WARHAWKS: 7
Oshkosh: 1

After losses in his last two outings Jones got back on track pitching a six hit, seven strikeout complete game for his seventh win of the season.  Jones allowed a single earned run and walked a single hitter.  Fleischman's RBI double put the WARHAWKS on the board driving in a pair of runs in the third inning.  The Titans cut the lead in half and scored their only run of the game with Eagan's RBI sacrifice fly in the bottom of the inning.  The WARHAWKS matched that run with an RBI single by Bryden in the fourth and added single runs in the both the eighth and ninth inning on a throwing error and Kuczynski's RBI single respectively.    Bryden (3x5, 1 RS, 3 RBI), Fleischman (3x5, 1 RS, 2 RBI), Kuczynski (3x4, 1 RS, RBI) and Chamberlain (2x5) had multiple hits.

The conference championship was the WARHAWKS fourth in the past five seasons and after we wrap up the rest of the regular season assures us of playing at home for the next two weeks.   Unfortunately I will miss the regional as I continue my stadium quest with a pair in Texas.   Pretty crappy timing.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on May 06, 2017, 01:34:28 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 06, 2017, 09:46:53 AM
WARHAWKS: 9
Oskhosh: 3
The conference championship was the WARHAWKS fourth in the past five seasons and after we wrap up the rest of the regular season assures us of playing at home for the next two weeks.   Unfortunately I will miss the regional as I continue my stadium quest with a pair in Texas.   Pretty crappy timing.

There is a regional in Texas, set up just for your viewing pleasure.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 06, 2017, 02:37:50 PM
Whitewater putting a beatdown on UWO and Sustachek in Game #1 today.... Whitewater with 6 HR's and 6 doubles already.

23-2 in the 6th inning.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 06, 2017, 06:42:49 PM
La Crosse splits to finish 11-9, Point sweeps to finish 11-9, and UWO leads Whitewater 8-6 in 8th inning. Win and they finish 12-8, lose and they join the other two at 11-9.

EDIT-Whitewater scores 5 in 9th to comeback and win 11-8. Result makes Point #2 seed, La Crosse #3, UWO #4 by virtue of their results against Whitewater since all went 4-4 against each other head-to-head.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on May 06, 2017, 10:40:59 PM
So how is the seeding going to work?

Does Point get the 2 seed because they took a game or two from UWW IIRC?

Then who gets the #3 seed?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on May 06, 2017, 11:14:34 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on May 06, 2017, 10:40:59 PM
So how is the seeding going to work?

Does Point get the 2 seed because they took a game or two from UWW IIRC?

Then who gets the #3 seed?

http://www.wiacsports.com/sports/2017/4/5/BB_0405170055.aspx (http://www.wiacsports.com/sports/2017/4/5/BB_0405170055.aspx)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 06, 2017, 11:17:45 PM
After all the hype that had to be a major Titan bummer.  Friday is another day though.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 07, 2017, 12:48:51 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 06, 2017, 11:17:45 PM
After all the hype that had to be a major Titan bummer.  Friday is another day though.
Like I said BW right? Never a doubt!!! :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 07, 2017, 02:56:40 PM
You called it cubs, kudos to you.

WARHAWKS: 23
Oshkosh: 6

The extra base derby that was game one started immediately when Bryden led off with a double.  Fleischman's single plated him with the first run and was followed by Krause's double.  Chamberlain's home run brought in three more runs and Kuczynski's home run score two more staking the WARHAWKS to a 6-0 lead by the time three were out.  The Titan's put a run on board in their at bat but the WARHAWKS responded with five more in their second at bat.  Bryden singled to start the inning and after an out a pair of walks, one intentional to Chamberlain, loaded the bases for Wary who singled in a pair and Aldridge followed that with a three run home run to push the lead to 11-1.   Neither team would score in the third but the WARHAWKS struck for four more in the fourth when Aldridge hit his second home run, Aiello hit an RBI single and Bryden hit the fifth home run the game this one good for a pair of runs.  Oshkosh scored their second run in the bottom of inning.  The WARHAWKS answered that run with a pair in the fifth.  Krause led off with a single, advanced from first to third on a passed ball (the second time in game that had happened) and scored when the Titan catcher committed a throwing error.  Helbing's home run scored the WARHAWKS second run of the inning and made the score 17-2.  The WARHAWKS increased the fifteen run lead to 23-1 in the sixth.  Fleischman's double scored the first one, Krause's single the second, Chamberlain's sac fly the third, a Titan fielding error the fourth and Kuczynski's bases loaded double the final three.  The Titan bats heated up in the bottom of the inning when they strung together four hits and capitalized on a WARHAWKS error for four runs to close to 23-6, the final score when both teams put runners in scoring position but failed to score in the seventh.  Wuethrich improved to 5-1 on the season surrendering 6 runs (5 earned) on 10 hits walking 1 and striking out 6 in 5.1 innings.  Langlie finished the final 1.2 innings allowing 2 hits and striking out a1.  Bryden (4x4, 4 RS, 4 RBI, 2 2B, HR), Krause (4x5, 3 RS, RBI, 2B), Aldridge (3x5, 4 RS, 5 RBI, 2 HR), Kuczynski (3x5, 2 RS, 4 RBI, 2 2B, HR), Fleischman (2x5, 1 RS, 2 RBI, 2B), Helbing (2x5, 2 RS, 1 RBI, HR) and Aiello (2x5, 2 RS, RBI) all had multiple hits as the WARHAWKS finished with 22 hits including 6 doubles and 6 home runs.   


WARHAWKS: 11
Oshkosh: 8

Oshkosh jumped on Kaska with three hits, good for three runs, in the first inning of game two and added a single run on three hits in the third inning.  The WARHAWKS got on the board and tied the score 4-4 in the fourth when Aiello drove in three runs with a bases loaded double and Szubert followed with a double scoring Aiello.  The Titan's kept a fifth runner from scoring when Szubert attempted to score on Kuczynski's single but was thrown out at the plate.  Two Titan runs in the fifth regained the lead 6-4 but the WARHAWKS got one back in the sixth when White homered.  The Titan's came right back though scoring two two out runs and increasing their advantage to 8-5 in their sixth inning at bat.  That lead was trimmed to 8-6 by theWARHAWKS in the eighth when a Titan fielding error was sandwiched between a pair of singles from Helbing and Aiello and Szubert's fielder's choice scored an unearned run.  The five run WARHAWKS ninth inning rally began with a fielding error and an unearned run when Krause followed it with a RBI double.  After one out Bryden walked, Aldridge singled and a second Titan error allowed Krause to score tying the game at 8 apiece.  With a pair of runners on base White's towering 3 run home run provided the winning margin.  The Titan's led of their ninth inning with a double, single but stranded both runners when Nompleggi got a strike out and coaxed a pair of fielder's choice force outs.  Kaska allowed 10 hits, 6 earned runs with a walk and 5 strikeouts in 4.1 innings.  Finn relieved but gave up a pair of runs, both earned, with 3 walks in 1.2 innings.  Georgakas picked up his first win pitching 2 scoreless and hitless innings with a walk and 2 strike outs and Nompleggi picked up his fifth save allowing a pair of hits and striking out 1 in the final inning.  Kuczynski (2x6), Krause (2x4, RS, RBI, 2B), Szubert (2x3, 2 RBI, 2B), Aiello (2x4, RS, 3 RBI, 2B), White (2x4, 3 RS, 4 RBI, 2 HR) had multiple hits.  Aldridge added an RBI.

The wins were numbers 500 and 501 for Coach Vodenlich.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 07, 2017, 03:10:44 PM
WARHAWKS softball adds 2017 WIAC Tournament title, their fifth in a row, to their conference regular season title beating La Crosse 5-0 finishing 3-0 in the conference tournament and 36-7 on the  season including 17-0 vs conference opponents.    They will host the regional next weekend.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 07, 2017, 05:41:19 PM
Standings & Results (Thru 5/7)

WARHAWKS: 15-3
Platteville: 15-5
Lacrosse: 14-6
Oshkosh: 10-8
Stevens Point: 8-8
Stout: 4-13

WARHAWKS: St Thomas (W 5-2, W 10-1), Concordia Moorhead (L 0-1, W 3-2), Wm Paterson (W 9-7), Webster (W 10-2), Rutgers-Camden (W 7-2), Southern Maine (W 5-4), Clarkson (W 3-1), Union (W 7-6), St Scholastica  (W, 10-5, L 8-10), Ripon (W 8-2, W 9-8), Concordia (Wi) (L 3-21), Milwaukee School of Engineering (W 21-4), St Norbert (W 14-9), (W 13-1)

Lacrosse: St Johns (L 0-1, W 6-0), Concordia-Chicago (W 6-2), College of New Jersey (W 6-4), Wm Paterson (L 4-5), Webster (L 0-4), Rampo (W 5-3), Southern Maine (W 4-2), Benedictine (W 10-5), Cornell (W 3-1,  W 10-2), St Mary's (W 4-3, W 7-3), St Scholastica (L 5-6, L 7-10), St Thomas (W 5-2, L 4-9), Milwaukee School of Engineering (W 4-0), St Olaf (W 16-4, W 6-4)

Platteville: Fontbonne (W 6-4), Buena Vista (L 0-10), Ripon (W 8-2), Stockton (W 5-2), McDaniel (L 0-5), College of New Jersey (L 7-8), Minn Morris (W 7-2), Eastern Connecticut (W 7-4), Western New England (L 0-3), Simpson (W 14-7, W 10-2), Northland (W 5-3, W 6-1), Marian (W 6-1, W 4-3), Illinois Institute of Technology (W 6-4, W 3-2), Illinois Institute of Technology (W 14-10, W 10-5), Edgewood (L 2-4)

Oshkosh: Adrian (W 8-4), Birmingham Southern (L 3-6), Transylvania (W 8-4), Mass-Boston (L 3-4), Eastern Connecticut (L 5-17), Clarkson (L 14-16), Washington Jefferson (W 4-1), Bowdoin (W 6-1, W 10-0), St Thomas (W 3-2), Union (W 6-1), St Scholastica (L 4-5, L 3-4), St Mary's (L 1-4, W 8-3), Concordia (WI) (L 2-3), Ripon (W 14-2), Benedictine (L 2-5), Ripon (W 5-3), Edgewood (W 6-1)

Stevens Point: St Thomas (L 2-6, L 5-7), Clarkson (W 6-5), Rampo (L 4-6, L 5-15), Westfield State (W 9-3), St Olaf (W 7-1), Worcester State (W 13-3), Southern Maine (L 4-6, L 4-6), Benedictine (L 1-11), Washington Jefferson (W 5-4), Ripon (W 6-1, W 15-14), St Norbert (L 1-8, W 4-1)

Stout: Bethel (W 1-0, L 0-8), Hamline (L 1-2, W 6-1), Augsburg (L 1-5, L 4-7), New York University (L 6-17), Wisconsin Lutheran (L 6-8), Skidmore (L 1-12), LaSalle (W 9-6), North Park (L 1-8), Western Connecticut (L 3-20), Edgewood (L 1-6), St Thomas (L 1-4, L 0-2), Superior (L 1-11) (W 20-10)

WIAC: 67-44 (.604)

Out of conference only.




Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on May 08, 2017, 08:07:05 AM
Didn't get a chance to see any of the UWO vs. UWW series but I heard it was even uglier to see in person than it was looking at the box scores.

You can call me crazy but I think UWO has as good of a shot of winning the conference tourney as any #4 seed that we've seen.It is going to be very difficult for UWW to beat UWO five times in a row. If UWO can win game #1 with UWW, then they'll most likely avoid having to face Boushley or Ericson in round 2. I'm not saying I would bet on UWO to win the conference tournament or that they are the favorites but I certainly wouldn't be surprised if they won it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on May 08, 2017, 08:14:15 AM
Someone recently noted that the Warhawks had 13 home runs (including 4 grand slams) during this six-game stretch. I'm not sure anyone would have predicted that from this team. Nice to give the pitchers some breathing room.

The WIAC tournament environment is always so electric. It's gonna be a long four days waiting for that.

I tried looking at prior years' position POY and it doesn't seem like leading in AVG is always the deciding factor, but presumably the body of work over the course of the season. It'll be interesting to see if Egan is the choice or perhaps Fleischman.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2017, 09:21:05 AM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on May 08, 2017, 08:07:05 AM
Didn't get a chance to see any of the UWO vs. UWW series but I heard it was even uglier to see in person than it was looking at the box scores.

You can call me crazy but I think UWO has as good of a shot of winning the conference tourney as any #4 seed that we've seen.It is going to be very difficult for UWW to beat UWO five times in a row. If UWO can win game #1 with UWW, then they'll most likely avoid having to face Boushley or Ericson in round 2. I'm not saying I would bet on UWO to win the conference tournament or that they are the favorites but I certainly wouldn't be surprised if they won it.
Not going to call you crazy, but think you might be in denial just a bit....

What makes you think an offense that struggled to score off of both Jones and Renz is going to fair any better this Friday?  Add in the fact that Whitewater didn't seem to be fooled by Sustachek (or Treml for that matter) and the odds are stacked against UWO. 

In my opinion, Whitewater is a level (or more) above each of the other three participants in the WIAC Tournament.  They have the best pitching rotation, #1-9 batting order, and their defense is pretty solid as well.  Add it all up and you have a team that won the regular season by SIX games.  :o

Now could they fall flat this weekend?  Sure, that's just how baseball works sometimes, but even if they were to lose the opener Friday, they still have a deep enough pitching staff to come back and win four straight in order to win the Tournament.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2017, 09:27:46 AM
Praying ShineTime doesn't weigh in on this discussion.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2017, 09:41:00 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2017, 09:27:46 AM
Praying ShineTime doesn't weigh in on this discussion.
I'd be more worried about him weighing in on Regionals and beyond....  Even if Whitewater were to go 0-2 Friday, their ticket is already punched for Regionals.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2017, 10:01:53 AM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on May 08, 2017, 08:14:15 AM
I tried looking at prior years' position POY and it doesn't seem like leading in AVG is always the deciding factor, but presumably the body of work over the course of the season. It'll be interesting to see if Egan is the choice or perhaps Fleischman.
Based off of the WIAC-Only Stats, I think it is Fleischman's to lose....

He leads the WIAC in batting average, slugging percentage, hits, total bases, runs (tied with Eagan,) tied for second in HR's and on-base percentage, tied for third in RBI's, tied for fourth in doubles, and tied for fifth in triples.  I believe he is the lone individual to be in the Top 5 of all those categories.

As far as the Pitcher goes, it's probably between Renz and Boushley, but I would lean towards Renz this season based on the WIAC-only stats they both put up.  Renz started five conference games, and won all five, while allowing opponents to only hit .163 against him, which lead the WIAC.  He went at least seven innings in each of those five games, giving up 0, 2, 1, 0, and 2 runs en route to a 1.00 ERA which also lead the WIAC.  If you were to take into account stats from the entire season, I'd be more apt to select Boushley, but that isn't how it works.  With that said, even if Renz wins the WIAC Pitcher of the Year award, I could see Boushley having a better shot at All American status because of the overall stats.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 08, 2017, 10:47:12 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2017, 09:27:46 AM
Praying ShineTime doesn't weigh in on this discussion.
Careful. If you say his name two more times he'll appear.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2017, 11:02:45 AM
WARHAWKS: 14
St Norbert: 9

St Norbert got an unearned run aided by a passed ball to open the scoring in the first inning but the WARHAWKS got a pair in the second when Kuczynski hit a two out, two run home run.  The bottom fell out for Shah in the bottom of the inning when the Green Knights plated six runs.  Shah faced five batters, allowing a single, committing a throwing error, hitting three with pitches and walking one, in the inning before being relieved by Georgakas.  Defensively the WARHAWKS had three errors in the inning.  Aldridge's single plated a run in the third reducing the deficit to four runs 7-3.  That score stood to the sixth when the WARHAWKS strung two singles and a base on balls together and followed with a grand slam home run by Bersch to tie 7-7.  St Norbert regained the lead 9-7 in their at bat in the inning with a pair of runs on a home run of their own.  The WARHAWKS took the lead for good with three runs in the seventh.  Aldridge reached on an error which allowed two runs, one unearned, to score and a second unearned run scored when White hit a sacrifice fly to left field.  The WARHAWKS added three more runs in the eighth on a wild pitch. an infield error and a groundout.  Kuczynski's RBI single scored the final run in the ninth.  The two teams combined for 28 hits and 8 errors.  Krause (5x5, 3 RS), Bersch (3x4, 2 RS, 4 RBI, HR), Kuczynski (2x6, 1 RS, 3 RBI, HR), Aldridge (2x4, 2 RS, 3 RBI) and Aiello (2x4, 2 RS) had multiple hits.  Wary (1) and White (1) also drove in runs.  Shah struggled (2 H, 6 R, 4 ER, 3 BB, 3 HBP).  Georgakas picked up his second win in two days (5 IP, 6 H, 3 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 3 K).  Nompleggi was credited with his sixth save of the season (3 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 3 K).


WARHAWKS: 13
St Norbert: 1

Very little drama in this one.  The WARHAWKS opened the scoring with a pair in the second inning on White's RBI double and Wary's fielders choice RBI.  We added six in the third when Chamberlain had an RBI single, Aldridge a grand slam home run and an RBI bunt single by Bersch.  White got a second RBI in the fourth with a single and Chamberlain got his second with a single in the fifth along with RBI singles by Krause and Aldridge, his fifth.  Szubert closed out the WARHAWKS scoring with a solo home run in the seventh.  The Green Knights scored an unearned run in the bottom of the inning and left the bases loaded.  Aldridge (4x4, 1 RS, 5 RBI, HR), Szubert (2x4, 3 RS, RBI, 2B, HR), Chamberlain (3x4, 2 RS, 2 RBI) and Krause (2x3, 2 RS, RBI, 2B) had multiple hits.  White (2) and Wary (1) both drove in runs.  Heilenbach started (6 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 6 K) and picked up his first win of the season.  Finn (0.1 IP, 0 H, 1 R, 2 HBP) and  Langlie (0.2, 0 H, 0 R, 1 K) both relieved. 

The WARHAWKS conclude the regular season with a 32-6 record.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2017, 01:33:32 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on May 08, 2017, 08:07:05 AM
Didn't get a chance to see any of the UWO vs. UWW series but I heard it was even uglier to see in person than it was looking at the box scores.

That depends entirely on who's eyes you were looking through.   ;)  ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2017, 01:52:16 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2017, 01:33:32 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on May 08, 2017, 08:07:05 AM
Didn't get a chance to see any of the UWO vs. UWW series but I heard it was even uglier to see in person than it was looking at the box scores.
That depends entirely on who's eyes you were looking through.   ;)  ;D
11 errors combined in the two games on Saturday is "ugly baseball" regardless of whose eyes you are looking through....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on May 08, 2017, 02:30:18 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2017, 01:33:32 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on May 08, 2017, 08:07:05 AM
Didn't get a chance to see any of the UWO vs. UWW series but I heard it was even uglier to see in person than it was looking at the box scores.

That depends entirely on who's eyes you were looking through.   ;)  ;D

I completely agree with you. Four of the 11 total errors were on the Warhawks. Two of those were made by non-starters who were brought in late in the big win, so I don't call that ugly. I call it gaining experience.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2017, 03:11:23 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on May 08, 2017, 02:30:18 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2017, 01:33:32 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on May 08, 2017, 08:07:05 AM
Didn't get a chance to see any of the UWO vs. UWW series but I heard it was even uglier to see in person than it was looking at the box scores.

That depends entirely on who's eyes you were looking through.   ;)  ;D

I completely agree with you. Four of the 11 total errors were on the Warhawks. Two of those were made by non-starters who were brought in late in the big win, so I don't call that ugly. I call it gaining experience.
I guess we are all entitled to our own opinion.... 

For me personally, multiple errors equals "ugly baseball" regardless of who they are made by, starters or reserves...  Whitewater played beautiful baseball on Friday, but on Saturday, MY opinion would be different.

With that said, all errors are not equal in my eyes though either....  Having a ground ball go between your legs, dropping a pop-up, or throwing it in the dirt on a routine play looks more "ugly" to me than an OF throwing to get a guy at the plate and having it take a bad hop and being charged with an error because the batter advances an extra base.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 08, 2017, 05:35:01 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 08, 2017, 03:11:23 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on May 08, 2017, 02:30:18 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2017, 01:33:32 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on May 08, 2017, 08:07:05 AM
Didn't get a chance to see any of the UWO vs. UWW series but I heard it was even uglier to see in person than it was looking at the box scores.

That depends entirely on who's eyes you were looking through.   ;)  ;D

I completely agree with you. Four of the 11 total errors were on the Warhawks. Two of those were made by non-starters who were brought in late in the big win, so I don't call that ugly. I call it gaining experience.
I guess we are all entitled to our own opinion.... 

For me personally, multiple errors equals "ugly baseball" regardless of who they are made by, starters or reserves...  Whitewater played beautiful baseball on Friday, but on Saturday, MY opinion would be different.

With that said, all errors are not equal in my eyes though either....  Having a ground ball go between your legs, dropping a pop-up, or throwing it in the dirt on a routine play looks more "ugly" to me than an OF throwing to get a guy at the plate and having it take a bad hop and being charged with an error because the batter advances an extra base.
I agree. But I am expecting the non-starter to make the play in almost every case that the starter would make.  Surely, that player's fielding is not preventing him from starting.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 09, 2017, 10:35:42 AM
UW-La Crosse's starting pitcher Caleb Boushley was named to this week's  DIII team of the week.

SP  Caleb Boushley, Sr., UW-La Crosse

Boushley recorded his fifth complete-game of the season and second shutout in UWL's 11-0 at UW-Platteville. He went 8.0 innings, allowing three hits and one walk while tying his career-high with 12 strikeouts. Boushley set two school records in the win over UW-Platteville, becoming UWL's career leader in innings (241.2) and strikeouts (205).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 10, 2017, 09:21:30 AM

Standings & Results (Thru 5/9)

WARHAWKS: 15-3
Platteville: 15-5
Lacrosse: 14-6
Oshkosh: 10-8
Stevens Point: 10-8
Stout: 4-13

WARHAWKS: St Thomas (W 5-2, W 10-1), Concordia Moorhead (L 0-1, W 3-2), Wm Paterson (W 9-7), Webster (W 10-2), Rutgers-Camden (W 7-2), Southern Maine (W 5-4), Clarkson (W 3-1), Union (W 7-6), St Scholastica  (W, 10-5, L 8-10), Ripon (W 8-2, W 9-8), Concordia (Wi) (L 3-21), Milwaukee School of Engineering (W 21-4), St Norbert (W 14-9), (W 13-1)

Lacrosse: St Johns (L 0-1, W 6-0), Concordia-Chicago (W 6-2), College of New Jersey (W 6-4), Wm Paterson (L 4-5), Webster (L 0-4), Rampo (W 5-3), Southern Maine (W 4-2), Benedictine (W 10-5), Cornell (W 3-1,  W 10-2), St Mary's (W 4-3, W 7-3), St Scholastica (L 5-6, L 7-10), St Thomas (W 5-2, L 4-9), Milwaukee School of Engineering (W 4-0), St Olaf (W 16-4, W 6-4)

Platteville: Fontbonne (W 6-4), Buena Vista (L 0-10), Ripon (W 8-2), Stockton (W 5-2), McDaniel (L 0-5), College of New Jersey (L 7-8), Minn Morris (W 7-2), Eastern Connecticut (W 7-4), Western New England (L 0-3), Simpson (W 14-7, W 10-2), Northland (W 5-3, W 6-1), Marian (W 6-1, W 4-3), Illinois Institute of Technology (W 6-4, W 3-2), Illinois Institute of Technology (W 14-10, W 10-5), Edgewood (L 2-4)

Oshkosh: Adrian (W 8-4), Birmingham Southern (L 3-6), Transylvania (W 8-4), Mass-Boston (L 3-4), Eastern Connecticut (L 5-17), Clarkson (L 14-16), Washington Jefferson (W 4-1), Bowdoin (W 6-1, W 10-0), St Thomas (W 3-2), Union (W 6-1), St Scholastica (L 4-5, L 3-4), St Mary's (L 1-4, W 8-3), Concordia (WI) (L 2-3), Ripon (W 14-2), Benedictine (L 2-5), Ripon (W 5-3), Edgewood (W 6-1)

Stevens Point: St Thomas (L 2-6, L 5-7), Clarkson (W 6-5), Rampo (L 4-6, L 5-15), Westfield State (W 9-3), St Olaf (W 7-1), Worcester State (W 13-3), Southern Maine (L 4-6, L 4-6), Benedictine (L 1-11), Washington Jefferson (W 5-4), Ripon (W 6-1, W 15-14), St Norbert (L 1-8, W 4-1), Marian (W 13-1, W 10-1)

Stout: Bethel (W 1-0, L 0-8), Hamline (L 1-2, W 6-1), Augsburg (L 1-5, L 4-7), New York University (L 6-17), Wisconsin Lutheran (L 6-8), Skidmore (L 1-12), LaSalle (W 9-6), North Park (L 1-8), Western Connecticut (L 3-20), Edgewood (L 1-6), St Thomas (L 1-4, L 0-2), Superior (L 1-11) (W 20-10)

WIAC: 69-44 (.610)

Out of conference only.





Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on May 10, 2017, 09:50:19 AM
Nice article.

http://madcitysportszone.com/2017/05/08/warhawks-look-recapture-glory-2014-season/ (http://madcitysportszone.com/2017/05/08/warhawks-look-recapture-glory-2014-season/)

And I like the table at the conclusion of this one ... it really gives perspective to the balance, I believe.

http://uwwsports.com/news/2017/5/9/preview-no-2-3-baseball-primed-to-host-wiac-championship.aspx (http://uwwsports.com/news/2017/5/9/preview-no-2-3-baseball-primed-to-host-wiac-championship.aspx)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 11, 2017, 09:32:23 AM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 14, 2017, 09:49:30 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 14, 2017, 07:10:57 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 10, 2017, 11:35:53 AM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 10, 2017, 02:08:54 AM
Quote from: cubs on April 09, 2017, 07:40:42 PM
WIAC Standings
Whitewater 4-0
Stout 3-1
Oshkosh 2-2
Stevens Point 2-2
Platteville1-3
La Crosse 0-4

This looks as expected but I would have thought UW-LX would have won one game.  Good job for UWW just about winning the WIAC in the first weekend of conf play.
Sweeping UWL is big but this is far from over. It'll be tough for UWO to do the same to UWL AND win their series with UWW but it is doable. UWO has a better team and will finish ahead of UWL this year.
UWO and La Crosse end up splitting their four game series, with each team shutting the other out a pair of times...
Still leaves UWO in good position to finish 2nd in the WIAC which should land them a place in the NCAA tournament.
Can we finally put this thought to rest now?

It's really easy....  UWO wins the WIAC Tournament and they advance to Regionals, any other result, and they can clean out their lockers for the season at the end of the weekend.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 11, 2017, 11:10:15 AM
La Crosse's Caleb Boushley was named this week's National Collegiate Baseball Writers Association's pitcher of the week.
Congrats

http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2017/05/NCBWA-POTW-10May2017
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 12, 2017, 08:20:28 AM
Conference Tournament gets underway today!!!!

My predictions:
Stevens Point vs La Crosse-La Crosse (Boushley caps a fine WIAC career with a victory in the opener)
UWO vs Whitewater-Whitewater (Warhawks pick up where they left off last weekend)
Stevens Point vs UWO-UWO (Sustachek/Treml enough to get by Pointers)
La Crosse vs Whitewater-Whitewater (Too big of a drop off from Boushley to see Eagles knock off either Jones or Renz)

La Crosse vs UWO-La Crosse (Flip a coin, but I will take La Crosse, as a win might just get them a coveted Pool C bid)
La Crosse vs Whitewater-Whitewater (Warhawks finish 3-0 and head to Regionals on high note!!!!)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on May 12, 2017, 10:29:04 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 12, 2017, 08:20:28 AM
Conference Tournament gets underway today!!!!

My predictions:
Stevens Point vs La Crosse-La Crosse (Boushley caps a fine WIAC career with a victory in the opener)
UWO vs Whitewater-Whitewater (Warhawks pick up where they left off last weekend)
Stevens Point vs UWO-UWO (Sustachek/Treml enough to get by Pointers)
La Crosse vs Whitewater-Whitewater (Too big of a drop off from Boushley to see Eagles knock off either Jones or Renz)

La Crosse vs UWO-La Crosse (Flip a coin, but I will take La Crosse, as a win might just get them a coveted Pool C bid)
La Crosse vs Whitewater-Whitewater (Warhawks finish 3-0 and head to Regionals on high note!!!!)

Probably almost everyone here is more familiar with the ins and outs of the WIAC Tournament than I am, so this might be a stupid question.  Is there any chance La Crosse saves Boushley for a potential match-up with UW-W in game 2? I know the first game is crucial and it lowers their chances of winning it. But overall it may increase their chances of going 2-0 on day one. Or is it pretty much always ace in game one?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on May 12, 2017, 11:07:43 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on May 12, 2017, 10:29:04 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 12, 2017, 08:20:28 AM
Conference Tournament gets underway today!!!!

My predictions:
Stevens Point vs La Crosse-La Crosse (Boushley caps a fine WIAC career with a victory in the opener)
UWO vs Whitewater-Whitewater (Warhawks pick up where they left off last weekend)
Stevens Point vs UWO-UWO (Sustachek/Treml enough to get by Pointers)
La Crosse vs Whitewater-Whitewater (Too big of a drop off from Boushley to see Eagles knock off either Jones or Renz)

La Crosse vs UWO-La Crosse (Flip a coin, but I will take La Crosse, as a win might just get them a coveted Pool C bid)
La Crosse vs Whitewater-Whitewater (Warhawks finish 3-0 and head to Regionals on high note!!!!)

Probably almost everyone here is more familiar with the ins and outs of the WIAC Tournament than I am, so this might be a stupid question.  Is there any chance La Crosse saves Boushley for a potential match-up with UW-W in game 2? I know the first game is crucial and it lowers their chances of winning it. But overall it may increase their chances of going 2-0 on day one. Or is it pretty much always ace in game one?

Point is saving Erickson for Game 2, Kawlewski vs Boushley in Game 1.  Can't say I disagree with the decision to not throw Erickson against La Crosse.  Point needs to win it all to make the postseason, not get a win or 2.  We will see which Kawlewski shows up this morning.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 12, 2017, 11:54:01 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on May 12, 2017, 10:29:04 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 12, 2017, 08:20:28 AM
Conference Tournament gets underway today!!!!

My predictions:
Stevens Point vs La Crosse-La Crosse (Boushley caps a fine WIAC career with a victory in the opener)
UWO vs Whitewater-Whitewater (Warhawks pick up where they left off last weekend)
Stevens Point vs UWO-UWO (Sustachek/Treml enough to get by Pointers)
La Crosse vs Whitewater-Whitewater (Too big of a drop off from Boushley to see Eagles knock off either Jones or Renz)

La Crosse vs UWO-La Crosse (Flip a coin, but I will take La Crosse, as a win might just get them a coveted Pool C bid)
La Crosse vs Whitewater-Whitewater (Warhawks finish 3-0 and head to Regionals on high note!!!!)

Probably almost everyone here is more familiar with the ins and outs of the WIAC Tournament than I am, so this might be a stupid question.  Is there any chance La Crosse saves Boushley for a potential match-up with UW-W in game 2? I know the first game is crucial and it lowers their chances of winning it. But overall it may increase their chances of going 2-0 on day one. Or is it pretty much always ace in game one?
A lot of who coaches decide to pitch depends on one of two things...

1.  Match-Ups-Does my pitcher match-up better against this line-up or another?  I have a strong LHP that could negate some of Team A's predominant left-handed hitting line-up instead of facing a line-up with with eight right-handed hitters.

2. Regional Outlook-Do I need to win the tournament to qualify for Regionals or has my team done enough in the regular season that a win or two improves my chances at a Pool C bid.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 12, 2017, 01:14:00 PM
You can also get a clue by looking back at the regular season meetings. If a pitcher totally dominated one team, but struggled against the other that might be an important factor to the coach. In the WIAC with four conference meetings, each team has likely seen every starter, but in conferences where teams might only play twice, a coach might want to put up a starter that the opponent hasn't seen yet.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 12, 2017, 01:49:06 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on May 12, 2017, 11:07:43 AM
We will see which Kawlewski shows up this morning.
Well Kawlewski pitched good enough to win on most days, but there is a reason Boushley is an All American....  Kawlewski, Erickson, or whoever else Point sent out there would have needed to pitch perfect just to send the game into extra innings.

Would have been interesting to see how things played out had Kawlewski not made a mistake on the two out 0-2 pitch in the second inning and got out of the inning without La Crosse scoring.  Oh well, that's baseball!!!

Great first game to start off the WIAC Tournament!!!  Renz vs Treml coming up in Game #2.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on May 12, 2017, 02:18:50 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 12, 2017, 01:49:06 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on May 12, 2017, 11:07:43 AM
We will see which Kawlewski shows up this morning.
Well Kawlewski pitched good enough to win on most days, but there is a reason Boushley is an All American....  Kawlewski, Erickson, or whoever else Point sent out there would have needed to pitch perfect just to send the game into extra innings.

Would have been interesting to see how things played out had Kawlewski not made a mistake on the two out 0-2 pitch in the second inning and got out of the inning without La Crosse scoring.  Oh well, that's baseball!!!

Great first game to start off the WIAC Tournament!!!  Renz vs Treml coming up in Game #2.

Agree, Kawlewski certainly wasn't the problem this morning.  The offense threatened a couple times but couldn't come up with anything.  Give credit to Boushley.  I don't see how Point can make it through the tournament at this point, don't have anywhere near the pitching depth to make it happen.  Jirschele has a ton of work to do for next season.  2 or 3 quality arms is a must.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 12, 2017, 02:41:22 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on May 12, 2017, 02:18:50 PM
2 or 3 quality arms is a must.
Everyone else in the WIAC needs the same thing, and from what I have seen the past few years, there are fewer and fewer quality arms sticking around the WIAC!!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on May 12, 2017, 02:55:39 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 12, 2017, 02:41:22 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on May 12, 2017, 02:18:50 PM
2 or 3 quality arms is a must.
Everyone else in the WIAC needs the same thing, and from what I have seen the past few years, there are fewer and fewer quality arms sticking around the WIAC!!!!

Well...Jirschele could have a head start if Thomka is back next season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 12, 2017, 03:09:36 PM
Treml had been flirting with danger in two of the first three innings (1st and 2nd) but had been able to wiggle free with minimal damage as Whitewater hadn't been able to get that clutch hit.  Well the same thing happened in the 4th inning, and this time Whitewater put up a crooked number to take a 4-1 lead.

Outside of the leadoff triple by Paulson, Renz has been just as dominant as he was in the regular season allowing just a pair of infield hits through five innings.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 12, 2017, 03:17:06 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on May 12, 2017, 02:55:39 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 12, 2017, 02:41:22 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on May 12, 2017, 02:18:50 PM
2 or 3 quality arms is a must.
Everyone else in the WIAC needs the same thing, and from what I have seen the past few years, there are fewer and fewer quality arms sticking around the WIAC!!!!
Well...Jirschele could have a head start if Thomka is back next season.
Being able to march out Erickson/Thomka as your #1 and #2 would make for some interesting DH's with UWO (Treml/Sustachek) and Whitewater (Jones/Renz/Kaska--although I think Jones moves onto professional ball after this season.)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on May 12, 2017, 03:41:44 PM
Thank you TomT, Cubs, and JustBill for your replies. Pitching depth is really a huge factor with this format. The 7:00 PM Friday game is obviously crucial. The difference between having to win one game on Saturday vs having to win three games on Saturday is pretty astronomical.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 12, 2017, 04:25:01 PM
UWO finally puts something together off Renz in the 9th inning, but Nompleggi comes in and gets the final three outs as Whitewater moves on thanks to an 8-4 victory....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 12, 2017, 04:31:29 PM
UWO right back in action against Point in an elimination game....  Would guess we will see Erickson vs Sustachek as the starting pitchers.

Whitewater will face La Crosse in the winner's bracket game at 7:00 PM.  Would guess the match-up there will be Jones vs either McMahon or Lavery.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 12, 2017, 04:41:08 PM
Why in the world does the WIAC do their tournament in 2 days instead of 3?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just the stats on May 12, 2017, 04:58:48 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 12, 2017, 04:41:08 PM
Why in the world does the WIAC do their tournament in 2 days instead of 3?

I believe so Sunday can be a rain day if needed. WIAC schools cannot compete during finals, which many places have on Monday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 12, 2017, 06:34:13 PM
Oshkosh: 4
WARHAWKS: 8

Oshkosh put the first run on the board when Paulson led off with a triple and scored on a sacrifice fly.  The WARHAWKS put a runner in scoring position in the bottom of the inning but stranded him.  White opened the bottom of second by getting on base due to a Titan throwing error and back to back singles by Wary and Aldridge (RBI) tied the game 1-1 with the WARHAWKS leaving a pair of runners in scoring position.  The WARHAWKS took the lead for good in the fourth.  White singled to open the inning and Wary was hit by a pitch.  Aldridge then singled in his second RBI, Szubert bunt single brought in a second run and Fleischman's infield single the third staking the WARHAWKS to a 4-1 advantage. After the Titans were put down in order the WARHAWKS added three more runs in the fifth when Aiello hit a sacrifice fly and Szubert's double brought in a pair.  The WARHAWKS final run scored in the eighth when Krause tripled to right field driving in Fleischman who had been hit by a pitch.  The Titans mounted a rally in the ninth loading the bases loading the bases on three consecutive singles with none out and scoring runs on a fourth single, a fielders choice and their fifth single of the inning making the final 8-4.  Renz pitched 8 innings and faced three batters in the ninth.  The righty improved to 8-0 allowing 4 runs, all earned, on 7 hits, walking one and striking out 10.  Nompleggi finished the ninth allowing a pair of hits but wasn't charged with any of the Titan runs.  Aldridge (3x3, 1 RS, 2 RBI, 2B), Szubert (2x4, 3 RBI, 2B), Wary (2x3, 2 RS) and Fleischman (2x3, 1 RS, 1 RBI) had multiple hits and Aiello (1) drove in a run. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 12, 2017, 06:35:40 PM
When you look at the final line for Renz, it really doesn't reflect just how dominant he was this afternoon....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 12, 2017, 07:41:12 PM
Wonder if Tomasiewicz is going to regret pulling Sustachek at 84 pitches in the 8th inning of a 4-1 lead?

Three pitchers and four hits and three hit batters later and Point now leads 7-4 heading to the 9th inning...

There is something to be said about "routines" in the game of baseball....  Instead of going to a guy that had been starting since the start of the WIAC season (McLees) why not go to the guy that has been your best relief pitcher all season (Larson?)  Instead Larson comes in when Point has already cut it to 4-3 and has the bases loaded with nobody out.  Not a heck of a lot of room for error at that point....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 12, 2017, 08:17:41 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 12, 2017, 04:31:29 PM
Whitewater will face La Crosse in the winner's bracket game at 7:00 PM.  Would guess the match-up there will be Jones vs either McMahon or Lavery.
Jones vs Lavery it is...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 12, 2017, 10:06:55 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2017, 01:33:32 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on May 08, 2017, 08:07:05 AM
Didn't get a chance to see any of the UWO vs. UWW series but I heard it was even uglier to see in person than it was looking at the box scores.
That depends entirely on who's eyes you were looking through.   ;)  ;D
Are we seeing UGLY baseball again tonight?

Whitewater and La Crosse have combined to commit seven errors in five innings of baseball, and despite Whitewater committing five of them, they hold a 6-2 lead after scoring a pair of runs in the 4th inning to tie the game and then get three straight two-out singles followed by three straight walks and one more another single in the 5th inning to take the lead.  La Crosse was literally one pitch away from getting to the 6th inning tied 2-2, and instead see themselves down four runs after seven straight Warhawks reach base.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 12, 2017, 10:30:03 PM
Whitewater pulling away in the middle innings, as they have added four more in the 6th inning to take a 10-2 lead. 

Not too often you see a team commit five errors and win, but looks like Whitewater is going to do that tonight.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 12, 2017, 11:08:47 PM
12-2 final in eight innings.  Jones goes the distance dominating the Eagles' lineup.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 12, 2017, 11:22:05 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 12, 2017, 08:20:28 AM
Conference Tournament gets underway today!!!!

My predictions:
Stevens Point vs La Crosse-La Crosse (Boushley caps a fine WIAC career with a victory in the opener)
UWO vs Whitewater-Whitewater (Warhawks pick up where they left off last weekend)
Stevens Point vs UWO-UWO (Sustachek/Treml enough to get by Pointers)
La Crosse vs Whitewater-Whitewater (Too big of a drop off from Boushley to see Eagles knock off either Jones or Renz)
Predictions were nearly spot on for Day #1....  Just wasn't expecting Tomasiewicz to have such a quick hook.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 12, 2017, 11:50:20 PM
Quote from: Just the stats on May 12, 2017, 04:58:48 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 12, 2017, 04:41:08 PM
Why in the world does the WIAC do their tournament in 2 days instead of 3?

I believe so Sunday can be a rain day if needed. WIAC schools cannot compete during finals, which many places have on Monday.

Great, thanks for the info.  Didn't realize they were still in school.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 13, 2017, 10:46:06 AM
La Crosse: 2
WARHAWKS: 12

Austin Jones dominated the Eagles lineup pitching a complete game (8 innings) allowing only a pair of unearned runs on only 3 hits without a walk and striking out 8.  The Eagles took an early 2-0 lead with single runs in the first and third innings before the WARHAWKS pulled to tie with a pair of runs in the fourth.  With one out White and Wary each singled and Aldridge followed with a third single which scored both of them.  The WARHAWKS seized the lead with four runs in the fifth.  Chamberlain, White and Wary hit consecutive singles and Aldridge drew a base on balls forcing in a run.  A second run scored on a wild pitch and after Aiello walked Szubert's single brought in a pair.  Four more WARHAWKS runs were scored in the sixth.   A single by Krause scored the first and Chamberlain's triple brought him home.  White's single followed driving in Chamberlain and Aiello brought home the final run on an infield ground out.  Kuczynski's single, driving in a pair, ended the game by the run rule in the eighth.  The WARHAWKS offense pounded out 16 hits.  Krause (4x5, 2 RS), White (3x5, 3 RS, 2 RBI), Aldridge (2x3, 1 RS, 3 RBI), Chamberlain (2x4, 2 RS, 1 RBI, 3B), Szubert (2x5, RS, RBI)  and Kuczynski (2x6, 2 RBI) had multiple hits and Aeillo drove in a run.  Defense was not good as the two teams combined for nine errors.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 13, 2017, 02:02:04 PM
La Crosse puts up a five spot in the second inning to take a 5-0 lead over Point.  Would think if they hang on for the victory, they have shown they were the second best team in the WIAC this season and would be at the front of the line among WIAC schools for a Pool C bid.

Something to keep in mind, St. Thomas is now in the Pool C group as well, as they were eliminated from the MIAC Tournament.  St. Thomas was ranked ahead of La Crosse on Thursday in the Midwest Regional rankings.  Will be interesting to see if reaching the WIAC Tournament Championship game will be enough to get La Crosse ahead of St. Thomas when the Pool C bids are awarded.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 14, 2017, 09:55:26 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 13, 2017, 02:02:04 PM
La Crosse puts up a five spot in the second inning to take a 5-0 lead over Point.  Would think if they hang on for the victory, they have shown they were the second best team in the WIAC this season and would be at the front of the line among WIAC schools for a Pool C bid.

Something to keep in mind, St. Thomas is now in the Pool C group as well, as they were eliminated from the MIAC Tournament.  St. Thomas was ranked ahead of La Crosse on Thursday in the Midwest Regional rankings.  Will be interesting to see if reaching the WIAC Tournament Championship game will be enough to get La Crosse ahead of St. Thomas when the Pool C bids are awarded.
Well La Crosse probably helped their case even more, as after knocking off Point earlier in the day, the Eagles scored five runs in the bottom of the 8th inning of the first championship to come back and defeat Whitewater 9-8.  James Witt pitched 4.2 innings of one hit relief giving the Eagles bats a chance to rally.  They were able to do just that off Nompleggi who came on in relief of Wuethrich.

Ankur Shah got the surprise start in the "if necessary" game for Whitewater and had arguably his best start in over a month, coincidentally which was also against La Crosse when he allowed two runs in a complete game 6-2 victory.  (Maybe it shouldn't have been a surprise that he started!!)  He stopped any momentum La Crosse might have generated in the first championship game and then Kaska came on in relief to seal the deal striking out six in three innings of work.  La Crosse had cut Whitewater lead to 5-3 in the 6th inning, but Warhawk bats figured out Witt this time and scored three in 7th inning to make it 8-3, and that is how it ended.

Was surprised to see La Crosse's best relief pitcher Caleb Willems never step foot on the mound this weekend.  Anyone happen to know why?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 14, 2017, 10:10:22 AM
La Crosse: 9
WARHAWKS: 8

A two run home run off the bat of Chamberlain in the first gave the WARHAWKS the early lead.  But the Eagles matched those runs when a bloop single just out of the reach of three WARHAWKS fielders matched that and tied the game in the second.  The tie didn't last long however as the WARHAWKS put a three spot on the board in the bottom of the inning with an RBI single by Aiello, a balk and Fleischman's fielders choice ground ball.  The Eagles cut the lead to 5-3 with a run in the third but Fleischman's monster home run which cleared the scoreboard in right field pushed the WARHAWKS lead to 7-3 after four innings of play.  Each team scored single runs in the fifth.  The Eagles on an RBI triple by Brown and the WARHAWKS on Aiello's single making it an 8-4 game.  That lead stood to the ninth before the Eagles put a five spot on the board with two outs which included a home run by Brown. Twice in the inning the Eagles were down to their last strike but clutched up to pull out the win.  Wuerthrich started and went 7 innings allowing 4 runs (all earned) on 8 hits with a walk and 9 strikeouts.  Nompleggi was tagged with his first loss when he allowed 5 earned runs on 6 hits, walked 1 and struck out a pair in two innings.  Krause (2x5, RS, 2 2B), Chamberlain (2x5, RS, 2 RBI, HR), Aiello (2x4, RS, 2 RBI) and Szubert (2x3, RS, 2 RBI, 2 2B)recorded multiple hits.


La Crosse: 3
WARHAWKS: 8

Ankur Shah who hadn't gotten to the third inning in his last thee starts broke out of his funk picking up his fifth win of the season in the championship game.  The senior lefty allowed 6 hits and 3 earned runs walked a pair and struck out 3 in six innings before Kaska relieved allowing a pair of hits with a single walk and striking out 6 Eagle batters in three scoreless innings.  After three scoreless innings the WARHAWKS broke the ice with five runs in the fourth Krause, Wary (2) and Aiello had RBI singles and for the second time in the day the WARHAWKS scored a run due to a balk.  The Eagles cut the deficit to three with a pair in the fifth and to two runs with another run in the sixth.  But the WARHAWKS got two of those runs back in the seventh on Wary's second RBI single and an RBI single by Aldridge.  Like game one the Eagle's final at bats were not without drama as they stranded a runner on third in the eighth and left the bases loaded in the ninth.  Wary (2x5, RS, 4 RBI), Krause (3x4, 2 RS, RBI), Aiello (2x4, RBI), Chamberlain (2x4, 1 RS) and Kuczynski (2x5, RS) recorded multiple hits.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 14, 2017, 10:16:39 AM
Cubs, unfortunately I will miss the regional tournament as I foolishly scheduled a baseball trip to Texas next week.  Posting on my IPad is a pain in the butt so I'll be relying on you to keep me up to date on developments.  GO HAWKs
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 14, 2017, 11:01:28 AM
No problem BW!!! 

I will do my best!!!

BTW-What was the deal with all the balks in the second championship game?  Was pitcher not pausing out of the stretch, starting, stopping and re-starting delievery, etc?  Just found it weird that there were probably as many balks in that half inning as there was the rest of the tournament combined.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on May 14, 2017, 11:09:56 AM
Warhawks continue to get media attention. This is a nice recap.

http://www.nbc15.com/content/sports/UW-Whitewater-Baseball-Clinches-WIAC-Championship-and-NCAA-Bid-422187444.html (http://www.nbc15.com/content/sports/UW-Whitewater-Baseball-Clinches-WIAC-Championship-and-NCAA-Bid-422187444.html)

Also saw Chambo and Shah interviewed by WKOW after the win.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 14, 2017, 11:14:59 AM
On this date 22 years ago, UWO's Tim Jorgensen hit for the HR cycle. He had a Solo HR, 2-run HR, 3-run HR and Grand slam in an 18-7 win over Eau Claire at Tiedemann Field.

Doesn't seem like it was that long ago!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 14, 2017, 03:00:22 PM
I know this is the WIAC baseball board, but congratulations to the Oshkosh Softball program on winning the La Crosse Regional today.  After going 0-3 against La Crosse during the regular season/WIAC Tournament, the Titans were able to knock off La Crosse once yesterday and again today en route to a 3-0 record and a Regional Championship.

One thing that really caught my eye when looking at the box scores, Oshkosh pitchers struck out just four batters in three games (21 IP) at the Regional.  It seems like sometimes a team can have a dominant strikeout pitcher carry them through a Regional, but that wasn't the case for Oshkosh.

Oshkosh moves on to face Trine University next weekend in the Super Regionals, after Trine knocked off Hope College yesterday to win the Whitewater Regional.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 14, 2017, 09:55:37 PM
Here's our projected playoff field:
http://www.d3baseball.com/playoffs/2017/2017-playoff-projections
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 14, 2017, 10:53:20 PM
Awesome work Pat and crew!!!!

Will be interesting to see how close you and your crew gets to hitting on the 13 Pool C bids.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: mr_b on May 15, 2017, 07:52:43 AM
Here are the teams that made the tournament (http://www.d3baseball.com/playoffs/2017/2017-playoff-field)

Midwest Region Hosted by Wisconsin-Whitewater, Whitewater, Wis.
1. UW-Whitewater
2. Concordia-Chicago
3. Adrian
4. St. Scholastica
5. UW-La Crosse
6. St. Thomas
7. Macalester
8. St. Norbert
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just the stats on May 15, 2017, 10:01:15 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 14, 2017, 11:14:59 AM
On this date 22 years ago, UWO's Tim Jorgensen hit for the HR cycle. He had a Solo HR, 2-run HR, 3-run HR and Grand slam in an 18-7 win over Eau Claire at Tiedemann Field.

Doesn't seem like it was that long ago!!!

What an incredible feat! Didn't he also hit three home runs in the second game, or is that just the legend growing?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 15, 2017, 10:10:15 AM
Here's how I see the Midwest Regional shaping up:

Favorite:  Whitewater-They have a deep pitching staff that will allow them to put a quality starter on the mound each time out.  Add in the fact that they are playing at home, and I think is worth something as well.  Vodenlich has also shown that he is willing to bring a guy back on short rest if needed (like he did with Bachar and Morgan last year at Regionals.)

Sleeper:  St. Scholastica-I don't feel as good about this choice as I did before the bracket was released....  Drawing La Crosse, and more specifically Boushley, and then Whitewater (should they beat St. Norbert) with either Jones or Renz will be a tough task.  I would have liked to see them in the other half of the bracket to really more confident about this pick, but CSS did beat both La Crosse and Whitewater in the regular season in games started by Boushley and Renz so it shouldn't be a huge surprise should they be able to do it again.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 15, 2017, 10:12:13 AM
Quote from: Just the stats on May 15, 2017, 10:01:15 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 14, 2017, 11:14:59 AM
On this date 22 years ago, UWO's Tim Jorgensen hit for the HR cycle. He had a Solo HR, 2-run HR, 3-run HR and Grand slam in an 18-7 win over Eau Claire at Tiedemann Field.

Doesn't seem like it was that long ago!!!

What an incredible feat! Didn't he also hit three home runs in the second game, or is that just the legend growing?
He actually hit two HR's in Game #1 of the DH, and then hit for the "HR cycle" in Game #2 of the DH....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on May 15, 2017, 10:36:10 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 15, 2017, 10:10:15 AM
Here's how I see the Midwest Regional shaping up:

Favorite:  Whitewater-They have a deep pitching staff that will allow them to put a quality starter on the mound each time out.  Add in the fact that they are playing at home, and I think is worth something as well.  Vodenlich has also shown that he is willing to bring a guy back on short rest if needed (like he did with Bachar and Morgan last year at Regionals.)

Sleeper:  St. Scholastica-I don't feel as good about this choice as I did before the bracket was released....  Drawing La Crosse, and more specifically Boushley, and then Whitewater (should they beat St. Norbert) with either Jones or Renz will be a tough task.  I would have liked to see them in the other half of the bracket to really more confident about this pick, but CSS did beat both La Crosse and Whitewater in the regular season in games started by Boushley and Renz so it shouldn't be a huge surprise should they be able to do it again.

You raise excellent points across the board, and I cannot argue with any of them.

I do have a question for the group ... while I completely agree that depth of pitching is probably the primary factor at this stage of the season, should we also be considering who has the strongest 1-9 lineup and hottest bats? If so, does UWW get the edge?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 15, 2017, 11:15:33 AM
Here are the FINAL Regional Rankings:

http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/baseball/d3

1.   Wisconsin Whitewater   
2.   Concordia Chicago   
3.   St. Scholastica     
4.   Wisconsin-La Crosse   
5.   St. Thomas     
6.   Bethel   
7.   Concordia Wisconsin     
8.   Saint John's   

*Of note, Adrian, who is being shipped into the Midwest Regional, was ranked #3 in the final Mideast Region Rankings.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 15, 2017, 05:15:24 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 14, 2017, 03:00:22 PM
Oshkosh moves on to face Trine University next weekend in the Super Regionals, after Trine knocked off Hope College yesterday to win the Whitewater Regional.


Trine is a pretty decent team.  They crush it. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on May 16, 2017, 10:52:48 AM
Midwest Regional preview has posted. It's interesting that Fleischman and Renz from UWW are not listed as players to watch, as it seems plausible that they could be WIAC players of the year (or at least seriously in the conversation) and have very strong full season numbers.

http://d3baseball.com/playoffs/2017/previews/midwest-regional-playoff-preview?t=1494946152664
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 16, 2017, 12:13:04 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on May 16, 2017, 10:52:48 AM
Midwest Regional preview has posted. It's interesting that Fleischman and Renz from UWW are not listed as players to watch, as it seems plausible that they could be WIAC players of the year (or at least seriously in the conversation) and have very strong full season numbers.

http://d3baseball.com/playoffs/2017/previews/midwest-regional-playoff-preview?t=1494946152664


I noticed that and thought it odd as well.  I suppose they only list so many and want to include all of the participating teams.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on May 16, 2017, 01:53:46 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 16, 2017, 12:13:04 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on May 16, 2017, 10:52:48 AM
Midwest Regional preview has posted. It's interesting that Fleischman and Renz from UWW are not listed as players to watch, as it seems plausible that they could be WIAC players of the year (or at least seriously in the conversation) and have very strong full season numbers.

http://d3baseball.com/playoffs/2017/previews/midwest-regional-playoff-preview?t=1494946152664


I noticed that and thought it odd as well.  I suppose they only list so many and want to include all of the participating teams.

Sometimes the players that make a difference are those who step up and borrowing a phrase from my friends at D3hockey.com, stand on their head.  My thoughts go to Chris D'Amato.  Not an All-American but batted .350 higher than second place on ECSU's squad for the series and his .864 on base percentage was unworldly.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 16, 2017, 03:09:50 PM
Renz, Fleischman, Vodenlich:  WARHAWKS sweep All-WIAC honors...

http://www.wiacsports.com/news/2017/5/16/BB_0516174502.aspx


Chamberlain, Jones, Nompleggi also mentioned     ;)  ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 16, 2017, 03:24:44 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 16, 2017, 03:09:50 PM
Renz, Fleischman, Vodenlich:  WARHAWKS sweep All-WIAC honors...

http://www.wiacsports.com/news/2017/5/16/BB_0516174502.aspx
Weird....  I swear I read that on here already over a week ago?!?!  ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 16, 2017, 03:44:01 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 23, 2017, 05:10:55 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on April 23, 2017, 04:40:19 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 23, 2017, 03:49:31 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 09, 2017, 03:09:32 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 17, 2017, 07:28:56 PM
Kawlewski is not the answer...struggles to throw strikes and when he does, gets hit around the park.  I haven't seen one reason why Jirschele feels he's the number 2 starter right now.
Kawlewski with a complete game shutout as Stevens Point defeats UWO 4-0 in Game #1 of a DH today.  Kawlewski gave up just four hits and struck out six while walking three in the 116 pitch outing.
Just in case this was missed the first time.... 

Kawlewski holds Whitewater to two runs on eight hits over seven innings while striking out eight and walking three in Point's 6-3 victory over the Warhawks.

So does beating the #3 team in the nation according to d3baseball.com justify Jirschele having Kawlewski as a weekend starter?
I didn't know anyone needed justification from me over their decisions.  Kawlewski has definitely figured it out lately but his stats still aren't impressive and I still don't have much confidence in consistency from him. 
Nobody (especially someone who has accomplished as much in the game of baseball as Jirschele) needs justification from you, but when you are quick to criticize something, don't be surprised when someone points out that your criticism might be flawed.

In a short season like D3 baseball, one or two outings can make it so your overall stats aren't impressive regardless of what you do the rest of the season.  With that said, I'm guessing Kawlewski is still in the Top 10 in the WIAC in ERA at the end of the weekend despite his rough start.  That seems to be pretty respectable for your #2 starter (unless you are Whitewater!!!)  Take a look at his stats once Point returned from Florida.  Three starts, 22 IP, 5 runs (all earned,) 17 K's/8 BB's.  Maybe not "ace" material, but far from "getting hit around the park."
Can't help but chuckle seeing Kawlewski (Honorable Mention) join Erickson (1st Team) in earning All WIAC recognition....   :D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on May 16, 2017, 04:46:52 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 16, 2017, 03:09:50 PM
Renz, Fleischman, Vodenlich:  WARHAWKS sweep All-WIAC honors...

http://www.wiacsports.com/news/2017/5/16/BB_0516174502.aspx


Chamberlain, Jones, Nompleggi also mentioned     ;)  ;D

Nine of the 20 first-teamers are Warhawks. Not bad.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 21, 2017, 01:36:45 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 15, 2017, 05:15:24 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 14, 2017, 03:00:22 PM
Oshkosh moves on to face Trine University next weekend in the Super Regionals, after Trine knocked off Hope College yesterday to win the Whitewater Regional.
Trine is a pretty decent team.  They crush it.
Oshkosh loses a pair of close games late to Trine late, dropping a 7-6 affair on Friday as Trine got an RBI single in the 7th inning to win it and a 7-5 contest on Saturday which saw Trine score single runs in the 6th and 7th innings to break a 5-5 tie.

With just one senior that started in the Regionals and Super Regionals, albeit pitcher Sara Brunlieb, expectations will likely be high for the Oshkosh softball team entering 2018.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 22, 2017, 04:28:55 PM
For the first time since 2012, there will not be a WIAC team in the D3 College World Series this year, just one season after seeing the WIAC send two different teams to Appleton.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on May 22, 2017, 05:07:23 PM
Is Boushley a foregone conclusion for All-American? Any others anticipated from the WIAC?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on May 22, 2017, 07:49:16 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 22, 2017, 04:28:55 PM
For the first time since 2012, there will not be a WIAC team in the D3 College World Series this year, just one season after seeing the WIAC send two different teams to Appleton.

I see plenty of empty seats.  Come out and watch the series and say hello to our staff.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: mr_b on May 22, 2017, 08:32:03 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on May 22, 2017, 07:49:16 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 22, 2017, 04:28:55 PM
For the first time since 2012, there will not be a WIAC team in the D3 College World Series this year, just one season after seeing the WIAC send two different teams to Appleton.

I see plenty of empty seats.  Come out and watch the series and say hello to our staff.
Or maybe more fans from the Chicago area will make the trip since North Central and Concordia Chicago will both be playing.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on May 23, 2017, 08:19:33 AM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on May 22, 2017, 05:07:23 PM
Is Boushley a foregone conclusion for All-American? Any others anticipated from the WIAC?

All-Region http://www.d3baseball.com/awards/all-region/2017/midwest (http://www.d3baseball.com/awards/all-region/2017/midwest)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 23, 2017, 08:31:34 AM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on May 22, 2017, 07:49:16 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 22, 2017, 04:28:55 PM
For the first time since 2012, there will not be a WIAC team in the D3 College World Series this year, just one season after seeing the WIAC send two different teams to Appleton.
I see plenty of empty seats.  Come out and watch the series and say hello to our staff.
Dad is retiring from the work force after 48 years tomorrow...  As a retirement gift, I got him an All-Series pass to enjoy some games, so he will be there as someone without a rooting interest.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on May 25, 2017, 07:15:40 AM
Three WIAC players (pitchers) on the D3baseball All-American team. Congratulations

http://d3baseball.com/awards/all-americans/d3baseball-allamericans-2017 (http://d3baseball.com/awards/all-americans/d3baseball-allamericans-2017)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on May 26, 2017, 09:25:11 AM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on May 25, 2017, 07:15:40 AM
Three WIAC players (pitchers) on the D3baseball All-American team. Congratulations

http://d3baseball.com/awards/all-americans/d3baseball-allamericans-2017 (http://d3baseball.com/awards/all-americans/d3baseball-allamericans-2017)

And two WIAC players (pitchers) on the ABCA All-American Team.

http://abca.org/awards/all-americans/ncaa_div_iii/2017 (http://abca.org/awards/all-americans/ncaa_div_iii/2017)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 30, 2017, 11:08:46 AM
WIAC in the Northwoods League

La Crosse: Mason McMahon, P-UW-La Crosse
Green Bay: Scott Gorsuch, P-UW-Oshkosh, Alex Stodola, P-UW-Stevens Point
Madison: Heath Renz, P-UW-Whitewater
Rockford: Cal Aldridge, IF-UW-Whitewater
Wisconsin: Kyle Mrozinaki, P-UW Stevens Point
                 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on June 07, 2017, 03:07:06 PM
Nice piece on UWW's Austin Jones.

http://www.wauwatosanow.com/story/sports/2017/06/06/return-school-likely-pay-off-former-wauwatosa-west-star-austin-jones/369567001/ (http://www.wauwatosanow.com/story/sports/2017/06/06/return-school-likely-pay-off-former-wauwatosa-west-star-austin-jones/369567001/)

And Cal Aldridge is doing very well for the Rivets. http://northwoods.bbstats.pointstreak.com/player.html?playerid=1138793&seasonid=30702 (http://northwoods.bbstats.pointstreak.com/player.html?playerid=1138793&seasonid=30702)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on June 14, 2017, 05:02:06 PM
Boushley goes in the 33rd round.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 14, 2017, 10:35:27 PM
Well, with the draft now complete, I think we can pencil Whitewater in as the favorite for 2018 as both Jones and Renz will be back, giving the Warhawks a VERY formidable #1 and #2 for their starting rotation.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on June 15, 2017, 12:10:15 PM
Quote from: cubs on June 14, 2017, 10:35:27 PM
Well, with the draft now complete, I think we can pencil Whitewater in as the favorite for 2018 as both Jones and Renz will be back, giving the Warhawks a VERY formidable #1 and #2 for their starting rotation.

It certainly would make them much stronger than Coach Vo (or almost anybody in the WIAC) probably expected a few days ago. From the offensive perspective they only lose everyday starters Chamberlain and Kuczynski.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 17, 2017, 01:34:43 PM
Quote from: cubs on June 14, 2017, 10:35:27 PM
Well, with the draft now complete, I think we can pencil Whitewater in as the favorite for 2018 as both Jones and Renz will be back, giving the Warhawks a VERY formidable #1 and #2 for their starting rotation.


I didn't see that coming.   


Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 17, 2017, 01:38:33 PM
Not sure how many of you pay attention to the Wisconsin Spring Baseball State Tournament, but as I was looking through the box scores from the various games, I couldn't help but notice a familiar WSUC/WIAC name atop the lineup for the Division 1 State Champion Kimberly Papermakers....

https://www.wiaawi.org/Portals/0/PDF/Results/Baseball_Spring/2017/d1game7.htm

Can't help but chuckle a bit as I can remember the Lechnir twins and friends often times playing their own games at Alumni Stadium while their dad was busy coaching on the field.  With that said, I'm not surprised to see them having success, even though they are just sophomores.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 17, 2017, 01:40:10 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on June 17, 2017, 01:34:43 PM
Quote from: cubs on June 14, 2017, 10:35:27 PM
Well, with the draft now complete, I think we can pencil Whitewater in as the favorite for 2018 as both Jones and Renz will be back, giving the Warhawks a VERY formidable #1 and #2 for their starting rotation.


I didn't see that coming.
Has their been any feedback as to why Jones was passed over this season after being drafted last year?  Did teams think he wouldn't sign and planned on returning to Whitewater for his senior season?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 17, 2017, 01:55:25 PM
I took it for granted that both would be drafted so I haven't paid any attention to the draft and this is the first I'm hearing of it.  Saying I'm surprised is an understatement.  As far as Jones goes my personal opinion that the only way he wouldn't have signed is if his draft position had been worse than before.  Renz has talked about it publically in an interview with the local media so I know he would have signed any reasonable offer.  I'm disappointed for them.  They've worked hard to get to this point.  But I'd be lying if I said the prospect of their return didn't put a smile on my face.  We've still got work to do with the pitching staff but having those two back is a significant.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on June 20, 2017, 02:11:18 PM
Quote from: cubs on June 17, 2017, 01:40:10 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on June 17, 2017, 01:34:43 PM
Quote from: cubs on June 14, 2017, 10:35:27 PM
Well, with the draft now complete, I think we can pencil Whitewater in as the favorite for 2018 as both Jones and Renz will be back, giving the Warhawks a VERY formidable #1 and #2 for their starting rotation.


I didn't see that coming.
Has their been any feedback as to why Jones was passed over this season after being drafted last year?  Did teams think he wouldn't sign and planned on returning to Whitewater for his senior season?

It was broadly believed that he would be drafted and signed. I don't think anyone ever expected that he would return to UWW this fall, and he was quoted in numerous media stories about his readiness and plans to sign. He even stated that he believed he had given UWW everything he had and was ready to go.

I don't think anyone has any idea what happened.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 20, 2017, 05:35:46 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on June 20, 2017, 02:11:18 PM
Quote from: cubs on June 17, 2017, 01:40:10 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on June 17, 2017, 01:34:43 PM
Quote from: cubs on June 14, 2017, 10:35:27 PM
Well, with the draft now complete, I think we can pencil Whitewater in as the favorite for 2018 as both Jones and Renz will be back, giving the Warhawks a VERY formidable #1 and #2 for their starting rotation.


I didn't see that coming.
Has their been any feedback as to why Jones was passed over this season after being drafted last year?  Did teams think he wouldn't sign and planned on returning to Whitewater for his senior season?

It was broadly believed that he would be drafted and signed. I don't think anyone ever expected that he would return to UWW this fall, and he was quoted in numerous media stories about his readiness and plans to sign. He even stated that he believed he had given UWW everything he had and was ready to go.

I don't think anyone has any idea what happened.
The only thing I can think of, and this is purely speculation by ME, is that there was something that pooped up in regards to the health of his elbow/shoulder....  It's about the only thing that makes any kind of sense....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 20, 2017, 10:58:39 PM
Quote from: cubs on June 20, 2017, 05:35:46 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on June 20, 2017, 02:11:18 PM
Quote from: cubs on June 17, 2017, 01:40:10 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on June 17, 2017, 01:34:43 PM
Quote from: cubs on June 14, 2017, 10:35:27 PM
Well, with the draft now complete, I think we can pencil Whitewater in as the favorite for 2018 as both Jones and Renz will be back, giving the Warhawks a VERY formidable #1 and #2 for their starting rotation.


I didn't see that coming.
Has their been any feedback as to why Jones was passed over this season after being drafted last year?  Did teams think he wouldn't sign and planned on returning to Whitewater for his senior season?

It was broadly believed that he would be drafted and signed. I don't think anyone ever expected that he would return to UWW this fall, and he was quoted in numerous media stories about his readiness and plans to sign. He even stated that he believed he had given UWW everything he had and was ready to go.

I don't think anyone has any idea what happened.
The only thing I can think of, and this is purely speculation by ME, is that there was something that pooped up in regards to the health of his elbow/shoulder....  It's about the only thing that makes any kind of sense....
Hmmm... "pooped" "elbow" and "shoulder" are not three things that I usually associate in the same sentence.
;)   ;D  +1!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 21, 2017, 01:02:19 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on June 20, 2017, 10:58:39 PM
Quote from: cubs on June 20, 2017, 05:35:46 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on June 20, 2017, 02:11:18 PM
Quote from: cubs on June 17, 2017, 01:40:10 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on June 17, 2017, 01:34:43 PM
Quote from: cubs on June 14, 2017, 10:35:27 PM
Well, with the draft now complete, I think we can pencil Whitewater in as the favorite for 2018 as both Jones and Renz will be back, giving the Warhawks a VERY formidable #1 and #2 for their starting rotation.
I didn't see that coming.
Has their been any feedback as to why Jones was passed over this season after being drafted last year?  Did teams think he wouldn't sign and planned on returning to Whitewater for his senior season?

It was broadly believed that he would be drafted and signed. I don't think anyone ever expected that he would return to UWW this fall, and he was quoted in numerous media stories about his readiness and plans to sign. He even stated that he believed he had given UWW everything he had and was ready to go.

I don't think anyone has any idea what happened.
The only thing I can think of, and this is purely speculation by ME, is that there was something that pooped up in regards to the health of his elbow/shoulder....  It's about the only thing that makes any kind of sense....
Hmmm... "pooped" "elbow" and "shoulder" are not three things that I usually associate in the same sentence.
;)   ;D  +1!
Crap!!!!

Was supposed to be "popped."  :-[
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 21, 2017, 10:11:37 AM
But "crap" and "pooped" are a different story.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on July 14, 2017, 04:20:53 PM
I know the story is a bit "dated" but with the Quintana trade between the Cubs and White Sox this week, it seemed somewhat relevant again.

http://m.salisburypost.com/2017/04/06/intimidators-manager-justin-jirschele-youngest-baseball/

One of the big pieces the Cubs gave up (Top 100 Prospect Dylan Cease) will be reporting to Kannapolis to play for Jirschele.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on July 17, 2017, 01:32:42 PM
Northwoods League update:  FINAL

Green Bay:
Scott Gorsuch UW-Oshkosh: (1-1, 6.55 ERA) 13 GA, 1 GS. 23.1 IP, 17 H, 24 R, 17 ER, 37 BB, 27 K 
Alex Stroda UW-Stevens Point: (0-1, 10.05 ERA) 9 GA, 1 GS, 17 IP, 19 H, 21 R, 19 ER, 19 BB, 15 K

La Crosse:
Mason McMahon UW-La Crosse: (3-2, 6.95 ERA) 12 GA, 6 GS, 39.2 IP, 45 H, 30 R, 26 ER, 16 BB, 37 K

Lakeshore:
Austin Jones UW-Whitewater: (2-3, 2.92 ERA) 7 GA, 7 GS, 40 IP, 35 H, 16 R, 13 ER,  10 BB, 31 K

Madison:
Heath Renz UW-Whitewater: (3-3, 4.89 ERA) 12 GA, 12 GS, 46 IP, 52 H, 39 R, 25 ER,  35 BB, 47 K
Cal Aldridge UW-Whitewater: NO LONGER ON ROSTER

Aldridge hit .417 with 4 RBI in 10 games with Rockford earlier in the season.

Rockford:
Michael Kaska UW-Whitewater: (2-0, 5.10 ERA) 6 GA, 0 GS, 12.1 IP, 130 H, 7R, 7 ER,  9 BB, 6 K

Eau Claire:
Daytona Bryden UW-Whitewater: .278 BA, 17 GA, 13-54 H-AB, 18 RS, 7 RBI
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on September 17, 2017, 09:43:21 AM
Quote from: cubs on February 14, 2017, 08:33:28 AM
Unless the trifecta of Washburn/Gasper/Mlodik or Glysch/Grater/Taschner are back in uniform for UWO, I would be shocked to see UWO competing for the WIAC crown.....
Speaking of Taschner, it looks like he is sporting a different uniform these days!!!

http://www.wbay.com/content/news/Appleton-SRO-revs-up-crowd-at-football-game--444867233.html
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on September 23, 2017, 10:16:10 PM
Quote from: cubs on July 14, 2017, 04:20:53 PM
I know the story is a bit "dated" but with the Quintana trade between the Cubs and White Sox this week, it seemed somewhat relevant again.

http://m.salisburypost.com/2017/04/06/intimidators-manager-justin-jirschele-youngest-baseball/
Another nice article on former WIAC baseball standout Justin Jirschele who traded in his glove and cleats for a fungo and office....

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/14/magazine/making-an-mlb-manager.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fsports&action=click&contentCollection=sports&region=stream&module=stream_unit&version=latest&contentPlacement=1&pgtype=sectionfront
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 25, 2017, 12:22:32 PM
Quote from: cubs on September 23, 2017, 10:16:10 PM
Quote from: cubs on July 14, 2017, 04:20:53 PM
I know the story is a bit "dated" but with the Quintana trade between the Cubs and White Sox this week, it seemed somewhat relevant again.

http://m.salisburypost.com/2017/04/06/intimidators-manager-justin-jirschele-youngest-baseball/
Another nice article on former WIAC baseball standout Justin Jirschele who traded in his glove and cleats for a fungo and office....

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/14/magazine/making-an-mlb-manager.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fsports&action=click&contentCollection=sports&region=stream&module=stream_unit&version=latest&contentPlacement=1&pgtype=sectionfront
+1!  Great article.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on October 04, 2017, 10:35:20 AM
WIAC loses Automatic qualification.

The committee approved that the following 40 conferences receive  automatic  qualification to  the  2018  NCAA  Division  III  Baseball Championship:

Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference; American Southwest Conference; Capital Athletic  Conference;  Centennial  Conference;  College  Conference of  Illinois  and Wisconsin; Colonial States Athletic Conference; Commonwealth Coast Conference; Empire  8;  Great  Northeast  Athletic  Conference;  Heartland  Collegiate  Athletic Conference; Iowa Intercollegiate Athletic Conference; Landmark Conference; Liberty League; Little East Conference; Massachusetts State Collegiate Athletic Conference; Michigan  Intercollegiate  Athletic  Association;  Middle  Atlantic Conference Commonwealth;  Middle  Atlantic  Conference  Freedom;  Midwest  Conference; Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference; New England Collegiate Conference; New England Small College Athletic Conference; New England Women's and Men's Athletic Conference; New Jersey Athletic Conference; North Atlantic Conference; North  Coast  Athletic  Conference;  North  Eastern  Athletic  Conference;  Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference; Northwest Conference; Ohio Athletic Conference; Old  Dominion  Athletic  Conference;  Presidents'  Athletic  Conference;  Skyline Conference;  St.  Louis  Intercollegiate  Athletic  Conference;  Southern  California Intercollegiate  Athletic  Conference;  Southern  Athletic  Association;  Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference; State University of New York Athletic Conference; USA South Athletic Conference; and Upper Midwest Athletic Conference

  The full text: http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/Sep2017DIIIChamps_September_Report_20171002.pdf
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on October 04, 2017, 04:02:17 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on October 04, 2017, 10:35:20 AM
WIAC loses Automatic qualification.

The committee approved that the following 40 conferences receive  automatic  qualification to  the  2018  NCAA  Division  III  Baseball Championship:

Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference; American Southwest Conference; Capital Athletic  Conference;  Centennial  Conference;  College  Conference of  Illinois  and Wisconsin; Colonial States Athletic Conference; Commonwealth Coast Conference; Empire  8;  Great  Northeast  Athletic  Conference;  Heartland  Collegiate  Athletic Conference; Iowa Intercollegiate Athletic Conference; Landmark Conference; Liberty League; Little East Conference; Massachusetts State Collegiate Athletic Conference; Michigan  Intercollegiate  Athletic  Association;  Middle  Atlantic Conference Commonwealth;  Middle  Atlantic  Conference  Freedom;  Midwest  Conference; Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference; New England Collegiate Conference; New England Small College Athletic Conference; New England Women's and Men's Athletic Conference; New Jersey Athletic Conference; North Atlantic Conference; North  Coast  Athletic  Conference;  North  Eastern  Athletic  Conference;  Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference; Northwest Conference; Ohio Athletic Conference; Old  Dominion  Athletic  Conference;  Presidents'  Athletic  Conference;  Skyline Conference;  St.  Louis  Intercollegiate  Athletic  Conference;  Southern  California Intercollegiate  Athletic  Conference;  Southern  Athletic  Association;  Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference; State University of New York Athletic Conference; USA South Athletic Conference; and Upper Midwest Athletic Conference

  The full text: http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/Sep2017DIIIChamps_September_Report_20171002.pdf

That two-year grace period sure went by fast!

But I thought the addition of Illinois Tech was going to save them from this fate for at least a year until Illinois Tech joins the NACC. Is Illinois Tech not playing in the WIAC this spring, then?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on October 04, 2017, 05:31:53 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on October 04, 2017, 04:02:17 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on October 04, 2017, 10:35:20 AM
WIAC loses Automatic qualification.

The committee approved that the following 40 conferences receive  automatic  qualification to  the  2018  NCAA  Division  III  Baseball Championship:

Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference; American Southwest Conference; Capital Athletic  Conference;  Centennial  Conference;  College  Conference of  Illinois  and Wisconsin; Colonial States Athletic Conference; Commonwealth Coast Conference; Empire  8;  Great  Northeast  Athletic  Conference;  Heartland  Collegiate  Athletic Conference; Iowa Intercollegiate Athletic Conference; Landmark Conference; Liberty League; Little East Conference; Massachusetts State Collegiate Athletic Conference; Michigan  Intercollegiate  Athletic  Association;  Middle  Atlantic Conference Commonwealth;  Middle  Atlantic  Conference  Freedom;  Midwest  Conference; Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference; New England Collegiate Conference; New England Small College Athletic Conference; New England Women's and Men's Athletic Conference; New Jersey Athletic Conference; North Atlantic Conference; North  Coast  Athletic  Conference;  North  Eastern  Athletic  Conference;  Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference; Northwest Conference; Ohio Athletic Conference; Old  Dominion  Athletic  Conference;  Presidents'  Athletic  Conference;  Skyline Conference;  St.  Louis  Intercollegiate  Athletic  Conference;  Southern  California Intercollegiate  Athletic  Conference;  Southern  Athletic  Association;  Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference; State University of New York Athletic Conference; USA South Athletic Conference; and Upper Midwest Athletic Conference

  The full text: http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/Sep2017DIIIChamps_September_Report_20171002.pdf

That two-year grace period sure went by fast!

But I thought the addition of Illinois Tech was going to save them from this fate for at least a year until Illinois Tech joins the NACC. Is Illinois Tech not playing in the WIAC this spring, then?

I thought the same thing ... and I think we all believed that was the reason Illinois Tech was added. They are on the WIAC schedule this season ... I'm sure there's an explanation somewhere.

Is it reasonable to assume that the WIAC might only get one team through an at-large bid?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 04, 2017, 10:05:37 PM
They are all available for Pool B and Pool C correct?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 04, 2017, 11:06:50 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on October 04, 2017, 10:05:37 PM
They are all available for Pool B and Pool C correct?
Yes.  Let me look at the Baseball Pool B board.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on October 04, 2017, 11:32:59 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on October 04, 2017, 05:31:53 PM
Is it reasonable to assume that the WIAC might only get one team through an at-large bid?
I would be willing to bet that in most years that the regular season champion would have a pretty decent chance at a Pool B bid while the rest that have solid seasons would then be in contention for a Pool C bid..... 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on October 05, 2017, 01:55:13 PM
Quote from: cubs on October 04, 2017, 11:32:59 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on October 04, 2017, 05:31:53 PM
Is it reasonable to assume that the WIAC might only get one team through an at-large bid?
I would be willing to bet that in most years that the regular season champion would have a pretty decent chance at a Pool B bid while the rest that have solid seasons would then be in contention for a Pool C bid..... 
Thanks Cubs, that was my thought as well. In fact that conference going to pool B does far more harm to the other pool b teams than it does to the wiac IMO.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on October 05, 2017, 03:48:37 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on October 05, 2017, 01:55:13 PM
Quote from: cubs on October 04, 2017, 11:32:59 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on October 04, 2017, 05:31:53 PM
Is it reasonable to assume that the WIAC might only get one team through an at-large bid?
I would be willing to bet that in most years that the regular season champion would have a pretty decent chance at a Pool B bid while the rest that have solid seasons would then be in contention for a Pool C bid..... 
Thanks Cubs, that was my thought as well. In fact that conference going to pool B does far more harm to the other pool b teams than it does to the wiac IMO.
Unless I am understanding it incorrectly, that was my initial thought as well.... That was why I didn't see the benefit of adding Illinois Tech since it would hurt Pool C candidates SOS. 

I guess the one thing that "hurts" is that the WIAC doesn't have that Pool A safety net when/if the time comes that they struggle in the non-conference portion of the schedule and then beat up on each other during league play.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on October 11, 2017, 09:39:34 AM
WARHAWKS in the pros....

http://www.uwwsports.com/news/2017/10/9/warhawks-in-the-pros-former-baseball-standouts-enjoy-strong-season.aspx?path=baseball
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on October 23, 2017, 02:46:03 PM
Quote from: cubs on February 14, 2017, 08:33:28 AM
Unless the trifecta of Washburn/Gasper/Mlodik are back in uniform for UWO, I would be shocked to see UWO competing for the WIAC crown.....
Looks like Washburn's son Jack won't be following in his dad's footsteps, as he committed to Oregon State over the weekend.  Pretty impressive for a kid just starting his junior year of high school.

https://www.perfectgame.org/Players/Playerprofile.aspx?ID=517992
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on November 28, 2017, 11:48:32 AM
After losing both of his top assistants Vodenlich has hired Rob Coe for the upcoming season. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on November 29, 2017, 03:50:16 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on November 28, 2017, 11:48:32 AM
After losing both of his top assistants Vodenlich has hired Rob Coe for the upcoming season.
Where did the prior assistants go?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on November 29, 2017, 06:47:38 PM
Quote from: cubs on November 29, 2017, 03:50:16 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on November 28, 2017, 11:48:32 AM
After losing both of his top assistants Vodenlich has hired Rob Coe for the upcoming season.
Where did the prior assistants go?

Coach Wegner is an assistant at UW Milwaukee. Coach Bach also left the area, but I believe he is not coaching.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on December 01, 2017, 02:58:13 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on November 29, 2017, 06:47:38 PM
Quote from: cubs on November 29, 2017, 03:50:16 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on November 28, 2017, 11:48:32 AM
After losing both of his top assistants Vodenlich has hired Rob Coe for the upcoming season.
Where did the prior assistants go?
Coach Wegner is an assistant at UW Milwaukee. Coach Bach also left the area, but I believe he is not coaching.
Thanks for the details!!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on January 12, 2018, 02:47:32 PM
As expected, Warhawks Renz and Jones named preseason All Americans. http://uwwsports.com/news/2018/1/12/baseball-renz-jones-named-preseason-all-america.aspx (http://uwwsports.com/news/2018/1/12/baseball-renz-jones-named-preseason-all-america.aspx).

RussMatt tournament games have also been added to the schedule online.  http://uwwsports.com/schedule.aspx?path=baseball
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on January 12, 2018, 05:35:03 PM
Never expect either Renz or Jones to return.  Fate smiled on the WARHAWKS.   ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on January 23, 2018, 08:08:44 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on January 12, 2018, 05:35:03 PM
Never expect either Renz or Jones to return.  Fate smiled on the WARHAWKS.   ;D

It will be interesting to see how the other arms lost are being replaced. Other than Renz and Jones, there isn't much experience in that bullpen. Kaska and Heilenbach will be asked to carry a heavy load, or sure.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on January 24, 2018, 10:15:37 AM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on January 23, 2018, 08:08:44 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on January 12, 2018, 05:35:03 PM
Never expect either Renz or Jones to return.  Fate smiled on the WARHAWKS.   ;D

It will be interesting to see how the other arms lost are being replaced. Other than Renz and Jones, there isn’t much experience in that bullpen. Kaska and Heilenbach will be asked to carry a heavy load, or sure.


I don't know anything about who we may have recruited but it wouldn't surprise me if there's a transfer pitcher who will be in the starting rotation this coming year.   You have to like what we have returning elsewhere.  We'll need to fill the middle of the infield, that will be critical, but otherwise we've got plenty of talent returning.   Szubert may fill one of the two middle infield spots.  He played pretty well when he got opportunities last year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on February 02, 2018, 02:45:49 PM
Perfect Game DIII season preview has Warhawks at the top. https://www.perfectgame.org/Articles/View.aspx?article=14855 (https://www.perfectgame.org/Articles/View.aspx?article=14855) It mentions two D-I transfers (Illinois State and Western Illinois). Both were listed as position players at those schools.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 05, 2018, 08:18:18 AM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on February 02, 2018, 02:45:49 PM
Perfect Game DIII season preview has Warhawks at the top. https://www.perfectgame.org/Articles/View.aspx?article=14855 (https://www.perfectgame.org/Articles/View.aspx?article=14855) It mentions two D-I transfers (Illinois State and Western Illinois). Both were listed as position players at those schools.

... and the rich get richer...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on February 05, 2018, 03:52:34 PM
Since we now know the CSS will host the Midwest, can anyone point me toward the list of regional sites for 2018?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 06, 2018, 04:11:50 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on February 05, 2018, 03:52:34 PM
Since we now know the CSS will host the Midwest, can anyone point me toward the list of regional sites for 2018?
http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2018/01/2018-regional-sites-announced
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on February 11, 2018, 06:31:36 PM
The latest...
https://www.baseballamerica.com/college/2018-ncaa-division-iii-preview/?amphtml=1&__twitter_impression=true (https://www.baseballamerica.com/college/2018-ncaa-division-iii-preview/?amphtml=1&__twitter_impression=true)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on February 12, 2018, 04:17:47 PM
And the Warhawks are listed #1 again.

http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2018/01/previews/midwest-preview (http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2018/01/previews/midwest-preview)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on February 12, 2018, 05:05:03 PM
Rather be there at the end of the season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on February 12, 2018, 05:35:36 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on February 12, 2018, 05:05:03 PM
Rather be there at the end of the season.

I agree. And I know that's what the players are being reminded. Rankings only matter on June 1.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 01, 2018, 12:08:42 PM
Out of conference:

Illinois Tech:  Open 3/10

La Crosse:  Open 3/10

Oshkosh: Wabash (L 4-5), Transylvania (W 9-1, L 10-14)

Platteville: Aurora (L 1-3), Olivet (W 6-1), Spalding (L 1-11)

Stevens Point:  Open 3/10

Stout: Augsburg (L 0-3, L 5-8)

WARHAWKS:  Open 3/21

Through 2/28
Overall: 2-6  .250
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 01, 2018, 04:55:08 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 01, 2018, 12:08:42 PM
Out of conference:

Illinois Tech:  Open 3/10

La Crosse:  Open 3/10

Oshkosh: Wabash (L 4-5), Transylvania (W 9-1, L 10-14)

Platteville: Aurora (L 1-3), Olivet (W 6-1), Spalding (L 1-11)

Stevens Point:  Open 3/22

Stout: Augsburg (L 0-3, L 5-8)

WARHAWKS:  Open 3/21

Through 2/28
Overall: 2-6  .250

Stevens Point plays on the 10th at US Bank against St Olaf.  Has a normal start time of 11:30 PM.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 01, 2018, 08:27:04 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 01, 2018, 04:55:08 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 01, 2018, 12:08:42 PM
Out of conference:

Illinois Tech:  Open 3/10

La Crosse:  Open 3/10

Oshkosh: Wabash (L 4-5), Transylvania (W 9-1, L 10-14)

Platteville: Aurora (L 1-3), Olivet (W 6-1), Spalding (L 1-11)

Stevens Point:  Open 3/22

Stout: Augsburg (L 0-3, L 5-8)

WARHAWKS:  Open 3/21

Through 2/28
Overall: 2-6  .250

Stevens Point plays on the 10th at US Bank against St Olaf.  Has a normal start time of 11:30 PM.

Thanks, I must have misread the schedule. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 01, 2018, 11:33:38 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 01, 2018, 04:55:08 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 01, 2018, 12:08:42 PM
Out of conference:

Illinois Tech:  Open 3/10

La Crosse:  Open 3/10

Oshkosh: Wabash (L 4-5), Transylvania (W 9-1, L 10-14)

Platteville: Aurora (L 1-3), Olivet (W 6-1), Spalding (L 1-11)

Stevens Point:  Open 3/22

Stout: Augsburg (L 0-3, L 5-8)

WARHAWKS:  Open 3/21

Through 2/28
Overall: 2-6  .250

Stevens Point plays on the 10th at US Bank against St Olaf.  Has a normal start time of 11:30 PM.
;)

Yeah?  You ever had kids in college?

What would you rather they be doing at 11:30PM on a Saturday night?

Doing some wholesome constructive activity such as watching/playing a D3 baseball game or getting drunk/doing socially inappropriate/borderline illegal activities?

We are building character here!

(Notice that I did not impugn your character by asking you to recall what you might have been doing at 11:30 PM on a Saturday night in March. ;) )

:) ;) ;D :D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 02, 2018, 09:27:14 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 01, 2018, 11:33:38 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 01, 2018, 04:55:08 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 01, 2018, 12:08:42 PM
Out of conference:

Illinois Tech:  Open 3/10

La Crosse:  Open 3/10

Oshkosh: Wabash (L 4-5), Transylvania (W 9-1, L 10-14)

Platteville: Aurora (L 1-3), Olivet (W 6-1), Spalding (L 1-11)

Stevens Point:  Open 3/22

Stout: Augsburg (L 0-3, L 5-8)

WARHAWKS:  Open 3/21

Through 2/28
Overall: 2-6  .250

Stevens Point plays on the 10th at US Bank against St Olaf.  Has a normal start time of 11:30 PM.
;)

Yeah?  You ever had kids in college?

What would you rather they be doing at 11:30PM on a Saturday night?

Doing some wholesome constructive activity such as watching/playing a D3 baseball game or getting drunk/doing socially inappropriate/borderline illegal activities?

We are building character here!

(Notice that I did not impugn your character by asking you to recall what you might have been doing at 11:30 PM on a Saturday night in March. ;) )

:) ;) ;D :D

Haha, good points.

My initial statement had nothing to do with the kids spending their time constructively, it has everything to do with me wanting to watch their games at US Bank.  It's close proximity to where I live and those are normally the only Point games I make it to during their season.  Watching a doubleheader that starts at 11:30 PM makes that difficult though.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 03, 2018, 11:04:59 AM
tomt4525, I understand. It is harder to burn the candle at both ends as the years progress.   :)

I am glad that there is a northern indoor venue so teams can get started on the season. I have wondered about Texas teams going to MSP for games instead of going to Arizona, but by now, the ASC is starting conference play.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 05, 2018, 03:39:43 PM
Out of conference:

Illinois Tech:  Open 3/10

La Crosse (1-0):  St Thomas (W 2-0, Gm 2 suspended in 5th by time limit LaX trailing 1-2)

Oshkosh (1-2): Wabash (L 4-5), Transylvania (W 9-1, L 10-14)

Platteville (2-4): Aurora (L 1-3), Olivet (W 6-1), Spalding (L 1-11), Anderson (L 5-9), Spalding (L 2-12), DePauw (W 15-13)

Stevens Point:  Open 3/10

Stout (1-3): Augsburg (L 0-3, L 5-8), Hamline (L 2-9, W 6-2)

WARHAWKS:  Open 3/21

Through 3/7
Overall: 5-9  .360
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 09, 2018, 09:20:20 AM
http://athletics.uwsp.edu/roster.aspx?path=baseball (http://athletics.uwsp.edu/roster.aspx?path=baseball)

Roster is posted for UWSP.

Season Preview is also up

http://athletics.uwsp.edu/news/2018/3/8/baseball-ready-to-embark-on-2018-campaign.aspx (http://athletics.uwsp.edu/news/2018/3/8/baseball-ready-to-embark-on-2018-campaign.aspx)

I've noticed that Freshman starter John Popham is no longer on the roster but looks to have a pretty solid recruiting class coming in.  Payton Nelson, Christian Zamudio, Kevin Bolder and Lucas Leudtke should all have big impacts on this year's team.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on March 09, 2018, 04:14:24 PM
Warhawk roster is up: http://uwwsports.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball (http://uwwsports.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball) ... I count 34, so something is off.

WIAC preseason preview is up http://wiacsports.com/news/2018/3/9/uw-whitewater-picked-to-secure-baseball-title.aspx (http://wiacsports.com/news/2018/3/9/uw-whitewater-picked-to-secure-baseball-title.aspx)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 12, 2018, 10:37:09 AM
Out of conference:

Illinois Tech (2-1):  Beloit (W 4-3), Mass. College of Liberal Arts (L 4-5, W 7-5)

La Crosse (2-1):  St Thomas (W 2-0), Southern Maine (W 12-11), Spalding (L 2-4)

Oshkosh (3-2): Wabash (L 4-5), Transylvania (W 9-1, L 10-14), St Thomas (W 4-3, W 6-3)

Platteville (2-4): Aurora (L 1-3), Olivet (W 6-1), Spalding (L 1-11), Anderson (L 5-9), Spalding (L 2-12), DePauw (W 15-13)

Stevens Point (2-0): St Olaf (W 3-1, W 9-6)

Stout (2-3): Augsburg (L 0-3, L 5-8), Hamline (L 2-9, W 6-2), Edgewood (W 15-9)

WARHAWKS:  Open 3/21

Through 3/11
Overall: 13-11  .540



Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 12, 2018, 10:49:13 AM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on March 09, 2018, 04:14:24 PM
Warhawk roster is up: http://uwwsports.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball (http://uwwsports.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball) ... I count 34, so something is off.

WIAC preseason preview is up http://wiacsports.com/news/2018/3/9/uw-whitewater-picked-to-secure-baseball-title.aspx (http://wiacsports.com/news/2018/3/9/uw-whitewater-picked-to-secure-baseball-title.aspx)

Why do you say that?  Last year's roster had 32.  The year before it was 33 and we've carried at least 30+ for at least the past five seasons so 34 is relatively consistent.  I don't think regular season roster sizes are limited in the WIAC are they?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on March 12, 2018, 11:22:28 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 12, 2018, 10:49:13 AM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on March 09, 2018, 04:14:24 PM
Warhawk roster is up: http://uwwsports.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball (http://uwwsports.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball) ... I count 34, so something is off.

WIAC preseason preview is up http://wiacsports.com/news/2018/3/9/uw-whitewater-picked-to-secure-baseball-title.aspx (http://wiacsports.com/news/2018/3/9/uw-whitewater-picked-to-secure-baseball-title.aspx)

Why do you say that?  Last year's roster had 32.  The year before it was 33 and we've carried at least 30+ for at least the past five seasons so 34 is relatively consistent.  I don't think regular season roster sizes are limited in the WIAC are they?

Yes, the WIAC has a 33-player maximum for the regular season roster.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 12, 2018, 02:18:32 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on March 12, 2018, 11:22:28 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 12, 2018, 10:49:13 AM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on March 09, 2018, 04:14:24 PM
Warhawk roster is up: http://uwwsports.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball (http://uwwsports.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball) ... I count 34, so something is off.

WIAC preseason preview is up http://wiacsports.com/news/2018/3/9/uw-whitewater-picked-to-secure-baseball-title.aspx (http://wiacsports.com/news/2018/3/9/uw-whitewater-picked-to-secure-baseball-title.aspx)

Why do you say that?  Last year's roster had 32.  The year before it was 33 and we've carried at least 30+ for at least the past five seasons so 34 is relatively consistent.  I don't think regular season roster sizes are limited in the WIAC are they?

Yes, the WIAC has a 33-player maximum for the regular season roster.

Thanks, I wasn't aware of that.  I'm kind of surprised that they have one. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 12, 2018, 02:19:59 PM
I watched the first game of Point's doubleheader against St Olaf on Saturday.  Based on last year, I'd assume Olaf wasn't supposed to be near the top of the MIAC standings, with that said they were able to play with Point and that isn't a good sign for UWSP and their prospective season.

They started 4 freshmen along with a sophomore transfer at First Base.  Payton Nelson played CF and led off, seemed legit, should be a great WIAC player in the future.  Zamudio started at 3rd, Hansen in LF.  Aaron Simmons hit 6th in the DH spot.  Luedtke started at 1B both games.  I only saw Erickson and Spaeth throw and both were solid.  Mulzer started the 2nd game and must have been tough to hit with 7 K's.  We will see the depth of their pitching once the Florida trip starts.

Oshkosh took 2 from ranked St Thomas right before Point played, Whitewater is loaded and La Crosse had been awesome lately....Point will need to improve to beat any of these 3.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 13, 2018, 10:18:20 AM

Out of conference:

Illinois Tech (2-2):  Beloit (W 4-3), Mass. College of Liberal Arts (L 4-5, W 7-5),  Olivet (L 1-6)

La Crosse (3-2):  St Thomas (W 2-0), Southern Maine (W 12-11), Spalding (L 2-4), College of New Jersey (L 2-3), SUNY Brockport (W 9-7)

Oshkosh (3-2): Wabash (L 4-5), Transylvania (W 9-1, L 10-14), St Thomas (W 4-3, W 6-3)

Platteville (2-4): Aurora (L 1-3), Olivet (W 6-1), Spalding (L 1-11), Anderson (L 5-9), Spalding (L 2-12), DePauw (W 15-13)

Stevens Point (2-0): St Olaf (W 3-1, W 9-6)

Stout (2-5): Augsburg (L 0-3, L 5-8), Hamline (L 2-9, W 6-2), Edgewood (W 15-9), St Michael's (L 2-3, L 2-4)

WARHAWKS:  Open 3/21

Through 3/11
Overall: 14-15  .480




Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 13, 2018, 10:23:33 AM
UW-Oshkosh Titan on this week's DIII Team of the Week

DH   Taylor Grimm, Sr., UW-Oshkosh

Grimm hit a team-leading .667 (4-for-6) with two home runs, one double and five runs batted in as UW-Oshkosh won both games of a doubleheader against 17th-ranked St. Thomas (Minn.). Grimm also scored three runs during the doubleheader while recording a slugging percentage of 1.833 and an on-base percentage of .667.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on March 13, 2018, 10:49:22 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 13, 2018, 10:23:33 AM
UW-Oshkosh Titan on this week's DIII Team of the Week

DH   Taylor Grimm, Sr., UW-Oshkosh

Grimm hit a team-leading .667 (4-for-6) with two home runs, one double and five runs batted in as UW-Oshkosh won both games of a doubleheader against 17th-ranked St. Thomas (Minn.). Grimm also scored three runs during the doubleheader while recording a slugging percentage of 1.833 and an on-base percentage of .667.

He split time at C and DH in that doubleheader.  and DH was a good spot to slot him in with his very good week.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on March 15, 2018, 05:16:19 PM
The Warhawk preview has posted.

http://uwwsports.com/news/2018/3/15/2018-uw-whitewater-baseball-season-preview.aspx (http://uwwsports.com/news/2018/3/15/2018-uw-whitewater-baseball-season-preview.aspx)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 17, 2018, 05:39:18 PM
Out of conference:

Illinois Tech (5-3):  Beloit (W 4-3), Mass. College of Liberal Arts (L 4-5, W 7-5),  Olivet (L 1-6), Cazenovia (W 5-2). Fitchburg State (W 4-0, W 1-0), Keene State (L 6-14}

La Crosse: (6-3):  St Thomas (W 2-0), Southern Maine (W 12-11), Spalding (L 2-4), College of New Jersey (L 2-3), SUNY Brockport (W 9-7), RIT (W 5-0), lllinois Wesleyan (W 18-5), Benedictine (L 4-5), Webster (W 4-2)

Oshkosh (5-2): Wabash (L 4-5), Transylvania (W 9-1, L 10-14), St Thomas (W 4-3, W 6-3), Ripon (W 7-1), St Scholastica (W 4-2)

Platteville (2-8): Aurora (L 1-3), Olivet (W 6-1), Spalding (L 1-11), Anderson (L 5-9), Spalding (L 2-12), DePauw (W 15-13), Fonbonne (L 3-13, L 3-5), Rose Hulman (L 3-20), Chicago (L 6-7)

Stevens Point (2-0): St Olaf (W 3-1, W 9-6)

Stout (3-8): Augsburg (L 0-3, L 5-8), Hamline (L 2-9, W 6-2), Edgewood (W 15-9), St Michael's (L 2-3, L 2-4), North Park (L 7-16), Lakeland (W 9-5), Augustana (L 3-5), SUNY-Plattsburg (L 7-10)

WARHAWKS:  Open 3/21

Through 3/17
Overall: 23-24  .479





Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on March 22, 2018, 02:18:36 PM
Warhawks are off to a strong 3-0 start in Florida. Some extra adrenaline likely caused a few errors on Wednesday but things seem to be settling in. Renz, Jones, and Kaska have all had very good outings and the position players are shifting around a bit. Aldridge and Bryden are picking up just as we would expect and younger players and transfers are stepping up. Will be fun to watch the remainder of this spring trip!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 23, 2018, 12:57:38 PM
UWSP has a lead on #11 Washington & Jefferson going to the 9th, 4-2.....and Spaeth blows it...going to extras.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on March 25, 2018, 12:49:44 PM
UWW's Bryden starts the game with a leadoff homer and has hit for the cycle. Warhawks have four home runs so far (two for Aldridge) and lead Grinnell 15-0 in T7.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on March 26, 2018, 04:11:12 PM
Warhawks fall to St. Olaf for their first loss (6-3). Austin Jones took the loss, giving up 4 earned runs in the second inning. The Warhawks couldn't seem to string together timely hits, and the offense was too little, too late. St. Olaf used four pitchers...pretty effectively it would appear.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 26, 2018, 04:50:33 PM
Out of conference:

Illinois Tech (8-4):  Beloit (W 4-3), Mass. College of Liberal Arts (L 4-5, W 7-5),  Olivet (L 1-6), Cazenovia (W 5-2). Fitchburg State (W 4-0, W 1-0), Keene State (L 6-14}, Milwaukee School of Engineering (W 7-0, L 1-5), Wisconsin Lutheran (w 11-7, W 9-3)

La Crosse: (6-5):  St Thomas (W 2-0), Southern Maine (W 12-11), Spalding (L 2-4), College of New Jersey (L 2-3), SUNY Brockport (W 9-7), RIT (W 5-0), lllinois Wesleyan (W 18-5), Benedictine (L 4-5), Webster (W 4-2), Concordia - Chicago (L 3-8, L 8-14)

Oshkosh (9-2): Wabash (L 4-5), Transylvania (W 9-1, L 10-14), St Thomas (W 4-3, W 6-3), Ripon (W 7-1), St Scholastica (W 4-2), Washington & Jefferson (W 11-1), Grinnell (W 8-0,), Benedictine (W 13-3), Thomas (20-0)

Platteville (5-10): Aurora (L 1-3), Olivet (L 6-7), Spalding (L 1-11), Anderson (L 5-9), Spalding (L 2-12), DePauw (W 15-13), Fonbonne (L 3-13, L 3-5), Rose Hulman (L 3-20), Chicago (L 6-7), Rose Hulman (W 8-6), Belhaven (L 5-10, W 10-8, W 15-12), Millsaps (W 8-7)

Stevens Point (4-3): St Olaf (W 3-1, W 9-6), Western New England (L 1-2), Washington & Jefferson (L 4-5, W 6-0), Keuka (W 20-0)

Stout (3-8): Augsburg (L 0-3, L 5-8), Hamline (L 2-9, W 6-2), Edgewood (W 15-9), St Michael's (L 2-3, L 2-4), North Park (L 7-16), Lakeland (W 9-5), Augustana (L 3-5), SUNY-Plattsburg (L 7-10)

WARHAWKS (6-2): Babson (W 5-3), Hope (W 11-1), Washington & Jefferson (W 8-1), Lawrence (W 9-4), Grinnell (W 16-4), St Olaf (L 3-6), St Thomas (L 0-3)

Through 3/26
Overall: 41-34 .550






Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 27, 2018, 12:08:50 PM
Daytona Bryden (position) and Michael Kaska (pitcher) named WIAC Players of the Week

http://www.wiacsports.com/sports/2018/3/6/BB_0306180447.aspx?path=baseball
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on March 27, 2018, 05:45:33 PM
Although the box score is not available yet, the Warhawks were shut out by St. Thomas today and close out 6-2 for the trip. Next up is Ripon on what is predicted to be a very chilly and damp Saturday in Whitewater.

http://www.tommiesports.com/sports/bsb/2017-18/releases/20180327p55gu1 (http://www.tommiesports.com/sports/bsb/2017-18/releases/20180327p55gu1)

UPDATE: the Warhawks home opener has been moved up to Friday, March 30. A DH against Ripon at 3pm.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 29, 2018, 09:35:08 AM
Bryden named national hitter of the week by the National Collegiate Baseball Writers Association.

http://www.uwwsports.com/news/2018/3/28/baseball-bryden-named-ncbwa-national-player-of-the-week.aspx?path=baseball
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on March 31, 2018, 08:32:22 AM
Warhawks sweep Ripon while Bryden hits for the cycle again in game one. It looked like he may do it for the third time in game two, but he "only" went 4-5.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on April 02, 2018, 02:07:19 PM
Truly believe that this will be Oshkosh's year to win the conference outright. The early season has only reaffirmed what I had been thinking all off season. This Titan team is loaded with talented and experience. They've already racked up some quality wins in a tough non-conference schedule. I think the conference will come down to UWO and UWW.

Had a chance to see UWO in person against MSOE. Defense and offense looked solid. Starting pitching is a plus as well. Bullpen struggled a bit but if Scott Gorsuch can put it all together he would be the ideal pitcher to slam the door shut in big games later in the season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 03, 2018, 09:40:00 AM

Out of conference:

Illinois Tech (8-6):  Beloit (W 4-3), Mass. College of Liberal Arts (L 4-5, W 7-5),  Olivet (L 1-6), Cazenovia (W 5-2). Fitchburg State (W 4-0, W 1-0), Keene State (L 6-14),  Milwaukee School of Engineering (W 7-0, L 1-5), Wisconsin Lutheran (w 11-7, W 9-3), Carthage (L 3-13, L 0-15)

La Crosse: (8-5):  St Thomas (W 2-0), Southern Maine (W 12-11), Spalding (L 2-4), College of New Jersey (L 2-3), SUNY Brockport (W 9-7), RIT (W 5-0), lllinois Wesleyan (W 18-5), Benedictine (L 4-5), Webster (W 4-2), Concordia - Chicago (L 3-8, L 8-14), St Scholastica (W 6-4, W 14-11)

Oshkosh (13-2): Wabash (L 4-5), Transylvania (W 9-1, L 10-14), St Thomas (W 4-3, W 6-3), Ripon (W 7-1), St Scholastica (W 4-2), Lawrence (W 15-1), Washington & Jefferson (W 11-1), Grinnell (W 8-0,), Benedictine (W 13-3), Thomas (W 20-0), Wis Lutheran (W 11-2), Milwaukee School of Engineering (W 12-2, W 10-7)

Platteville (6-10): Aurora (L 1-3), Olivet (L 6-7), Spalding (L 1-11), Anderson (L 5-9), Spalding (L 2-12), DePauw (W 15-13), Fonbonne (L 3-13, L 3-5), Rose Hulman (L 3-20), Chicago (L 6-7), Rose Hulman (W 8-6), Belhaven (L 5-10, W 10-8, W 15-12), Millsaps (W 8-7), Edgewood (W 6-4)

Stevens Point (7-3): St Olaf (W 3-1, W 9-6), Western New England (L 1-2), Washington & Jefferson (L 4-5, W 6-0), Keuka (W 20-0), St Thomas (L 1-6, W 5-2), Colby (W 4-2), Colby (W 10-5)

Stout (3-8): Augsburg (L 0-3, L 5-8), Hamline (L 2-9, W 6-2), Edgewood (W 15-9), St Michael's (L 2-3, L 2-4), North Park (L 7-16), Lakeland (W 9-5), Augustana (L 3-5), SUNY-Plattsburg (L 7-10)

WARHAWKS (8-2): Babson (W 5-3), Hope (W 11-1), Washington & Jefferson (W 8-1), Lawrence (W 9-4), Grinnell (W 16-4), St Olaf (L 3-6), St Thomas (L 0-3), Ripon (W 15-3, W 11-5)

4/02
Overall: 53-36 .600








Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 05, 2018, 03:25:20 PM
 The WARHAWKS got home runs from Aldridge (2), Stontoro, Szubert, Bryden and Wary and easily defeated Illinois Tech 14-4 in eight innings.  Kaska got the win allowing a single hit with a walk and six strikeouts in five innings.  After a pair of relievers Renz struck out the side to finish the game. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on April 05, 2018, 04:27:04 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 05, 2018, 03:25:20 PM
The WARHAWKS got home runs from Aldridge (2), Stontoro, Szubert, Bryden and Wary and easily defeated Illinois Tech 14-4 in eight innings.  Kaska got the win allowing a single hit with a walk and six strikeouts in five innings.  After a pair of relievers Renz struck out the side to finish the game.

No live stats or social media updates apparently for Game Two, so we don't know who is pitching for the Warhawks. But we are hearing that Bryden had another leadoff homer.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 05, 2018, 08:40:41 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on April 05, 2018, 04:27:04 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 05, 2018, 03:25:20 PM
The WARHAWKS got home runs from Aldridge (2), Stontoro, Szubert, Bryden and Wary and easily defeated Illinois Tech 14-4 in eight innings.  Kaska got the win allowing a single hit with a walk and six strikeouts in five innings.  After a pair of relievers Renz struck out the side to finish the game.

No live stats or social media updates apparently for Game Two, so we don't know who is pitching for the Warhawks. But we are hearing that Bryden had another leadoff homer.


WARHAWKS take game two 10-3.  No other details were available on either team's website. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on April 05, 2018, 09:00:19 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 05, 2018, 08:40:41 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on April 05, 2018, 04:27:04 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 05, 2018, 03:25:20 PM
The WARHAWKS got home runs from Aldridge (2), Stontoro, Szubert, Bryden and Wary and easily defeated Illinois Tech 14-4 in eight innings.  Kaska got the win allowing a single hit with a walk and six strikeouts in five innings.  After a pair of relievers Renz struck out the side to finish the game.

No live stats or social media updates apparently for Game Two, so we don't know who is pitching for the Warhawks. But we are hearing that Bryden had another leadoff homer.


WARHAWKS take game two 10-3.  No other details were available on either team's website.

Heilenbach started and I presume got the win. O'Sullivan, Muir, and Gruetzmacher threw in relief. In addition to Bryden's leadoff homer, Santoro and Cho homered, as well. Apparently there was snow falling during game two (and not flurries). I'm afraid I don't have more solid specifics.

The Stout series in Whitewater this weekend doesn't look much better weather wise.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on April 07, 2018, 06:35:49 PM
Can someone please explain to me how UWW is able to advertise their athletic programs during Brewers and Bucks games? I have been wondering about this for the last two years of seeing the commercials on TV. To my understanding it's a blatant NCAA violation.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2018, 07:25:24 PM
We haven't kept it a secret and have been doing it long enough that at the least the conference commissioner should know about it.  I don't know the rules that well but I'm doubting your understanding.  We simply purchased advertising from Fox Sports.  I suspect Oshkosh could do the same.

WARHAWKS take two ten run rule shortened games with Stout 14-4, 11-1 today.  Bryden goes 4x5 with 4 RBIs and Jones gets 8Ks and the win in game one.  Rentz allows 4 hits and strikes out 6 while Sontoro gets 3 hits and a pair of RBI in game two.   

A balmy 33 was the best it got today.  Two more tomorrow.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on April 07, 2018, 11:23:59 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2018, 07:25:24 PM
We haven't kept it a secret and have been doing it long enough that at the least the conference commissioner should know about it.  I don't know the rules that well but I'm doubting your understanding.  We simply purchased advertising from Fox Sports.  I suspect Oshkosh could do the same.

WARHAWKS take two ten run rule shortened games with Stout 14-4, 11-1 today.  Bryden goes 4x5 with 4 RBIs and Jones gets 8Ks and the win in game one.  Rentz allows 4 hits and strikes out 6 while Sontoro gets 3 hits and a pair of RBI in game two.   

A balmy 33 was the best it got today.  Two more tomorrow.
It's a violation. You can't recruit athletes via advertisements on TV. If you could I guarantee you would see every D1 school doing it. Especially something like UW-Milwaukee basketball.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on April 08, 2018, 12:32:46 AM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 07, 2018, 11:23:59 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2018, 07:25:24 PM
We haven't kept it a secret and have been doing it long enough that at the least the conference commissioner should know about it.  I don't know the rules that well but I'm doubting your understanding.  We simply purchased advertising from Fox Sports.  I suspect Oshkosh could do the same.

WARHAWKS take two ten run rule shortened games with Stout 14-4, 11-1 today.  Bryden goes 4x5 with 4 RBIs and Jones gets 8Ks and the win in game one.  Rentz allows 4 hits and strikes out 6 while Sontoro gets 3 hits and a pair of RBI in game two.   

A balmy 33 was the best it got today.  Two more tomorrow.
It's a violation. You can't recruit athletes via advertisements on TV. If you could I guarantee you would see every D1 school doing it. Especially something like UW-Milwaukee basketball.
I'd be interested in knowing how you are going to stand behind your guarantee. Or are those empty words? It is absolutely not a violation. Is UW-W ahead of the curve on this? Yes. As usual. There are restrictions on current student athletes' roles in advertisements. That's why former athletes are participating. it would be great if you would produce the rule being violated or admit you are wrong. I predict you will do neither.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on April 08, 2018, 12:40:19 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on April 08, 2018, 12:32:46 AM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 07, 2018, 11:23:59 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2018, 07:25:24 PM
We haven't kept it a secret and have been doing it long enough that at the least the conference commissioner should know about it.  I don't know the rules that well but I'm doubting your understanding.  We simply purchased advertising from Fox Sports.  I suspect Oshkosh could do the same.

WARHAWKS take two ten run rule shortened games with Stout 14-4, 11-1 today.  Bryden goes 4x5 with 4 RBIs and Jones gets 8Ks and the win in game one.  Rentz allows 4 hits and strikes out 6 while Sontoro gets 3 hits and a pair of RBI in game two.   

A balmy 33 was the best it got today.  Two more tomorrow.
It's a violation. You can't recruit athletes via advertisements on TV. If you could I guarantee you would see every D1 school doing it. Especially something like UW-Milwaukee basketball.
I'd be interested in knowing how you are going to stand behind your guarantee. Or are those empty words? It is absolutely not a violation. Is UW-W ahead of the curve on this? Yes. As usual. There are restrictions on current student athletes' roles in advertisements. That's why former athletes are participating. it would be great if you would produce the rule being violated or admit you are wrong. I predict you will do neither.

https://www.ispot.tv/ad/wQgX/university-of-michigan-athletics-get-in-on-the-action

https://www.ispot.tv/ad/wiao/university-of-san-francisco-like-no-other-place

https://www.ispot.tv/ad/walw/university-of-denver-the-recipe-for-championship
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 08, 2018, 11:01:08 AM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 07, 2018, 11:23:59 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2018, 07:25:24 PM
We haven't kept it a secret and have been doing it long enough that at the least the conference commissioner should know about it.  I don't know the rules that well but I'm doubting your understanding.  We simply purchased advertising from Fox Sports.  I suspect Oshkosh could do the same.

WARHAWKS take two ten run rule shortened games with Stout 14-4, 11-1 today.  Bryden goes 4x5 with 4 RBIs and Jones gets 8Ks and the win in game one.  Rentz allows 4 hits and strikes out 6 while Sontoro gets 3 hits and a pair of RBI in game two.   

A balmy 33 was the best it got today.  Two more tomorrow.


It’s a violation. You can’t recruit athletes via advertisements on TV. If you could I guarantee you would see every D1 school doing it. Especially something like UW-Milwaukee basketball.


Ok, you keep insisting and we'll keep doing.  We aren't that stupid, ok.  If it were a blatant violation we wouldn't have done it in the first place let alone continue with it.  We didn't just launch the campaign without clarifying what we are allowed and not allowed to do.  Our athletic department administrators are a whole lot more together than that. 


Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just the stats on April 08, 2018, 11:18:25 AM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 07, 2018, 11:23:59 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2018, 07:25:24 PM
We haven't kept it a secret and have been doing it long enough that at the least the conference commissioner should know about it.  I don't know the rules that well but I'm doubting your understanding.  We simply purchased advertising from Fox Sports.  I suspect Oshkosh could do the same.

WARHAWKS take two ten run rule shortened games with Stout 14-4, 11-1 today.  Bryden goes 4x5 with 4 RBIs and Jones gets 8Ks and the win in game one.  Rentz allows 4 hits and strikes out 6 while Sontoro gets 3 hits and a pair of RBI in game two.   

A balmy 33 was the best it got today.  Two more tomorrow.
It’s a violation. You can’t recruit athletes via advertisements on TV. If you could I guarantee you would see every D1 school doing it. Especially something like UW-Milwaukee basketball.
I think it's only a violation to advertise during high school sporting events. That's why you don't see those types of ads during the state tournaments.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on April 08, 2018, 11:51:14 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 08, 2018, 11:01:08 AM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 07, 2018, 11:23:59 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2018, 07:25:24 PM
We haven't kept it a secret and have been doing it long enough that at the least the conference commissioner should know about it.  I don't know the rules that well but I'm doubting your understanding.  We simply purchased advertising from Fox Sports.  I suspect Oshkosh could do the same.

WARHAWKS take two ten run rule shortened games with Stout 14-4, 11-1 today.  Bryden goes 4x5 with 4 RBIs and Jones gets 8Ks and the win in game one.  Rentz allows 4 hits and strikes out 6 while Sontoro gets 3 hits and a pair of RBI in game two.   

A balmy 33 was the best it got today.  Two more tomorrow.


It's a violation. You can't recruit athletes via advertisements on TV. If you could I guarantee you would see every D1 school doing it. Especially something like UW-Milwaukee basketball.


Ok, you keep insisting and we'll keep doing.  We aren't that stupid, ok.  If it were a blatant violation we wouldn't have done it in the first place let alone continue with it.  We didn't just launch the campaign without clarifying what we are allowed and not allowed to do.  Our athletic department administrators are a whole lot more together than that.

EXACTLY. These TV spots (which I also believe are produced by the UWW Mass Communications students) have been airing for at least two years. The campaign was also broadly announced through the Website and social media. Of course, this would not be the case if anything was not properly vetted or questionable. I also see it as meant to recruit students in general, many of whom enjoy the winning environment, whether or not they are potential student athletes.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 09, 2018, 10:15:44 AM
The WARHAWKS finished the weekend sweep of Stout winning 6-0 and 11-4 on Sunday.  Kaska went 8 innings allowing just 3 hits and striking out 6 to get his third win of the season in game one.  Aldridge and Szubert homered and Krause added a pair of RBI.  Heilenbach got his third win of the season in game two allowing 1 run on 6 hits with 4 Ks in 6 innings of work.  Bryden homered and tripled.  Szubert and Dodd each had a pair of RBI.

Point goes 4-0 against Platteville.  La Crosse drops one of four against Illinois Tech.  Oshkosh opens conference play Wednesday in WHITEWATER.   

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 10, 2018, 10:20:56 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 09, 2018, 10:15:44 AM
The WARHAWKS finished the weekend sweep of Stout winning 6-0 and 11-4 on Sunday.  Kaska went 8 innings allowing just 3 hits and striking out 6 to get his third win of the season in game one.  Aldridge and Szubert homered and Krause added a pair of RBI.  Heilenbach got his third win of the season in game two allowing 1 run on 6 hits with 4 Ks in 6 innings of work.  Bryden homered and tripled.  Szubert and Dodd each had a pair of RBI.

Point goes 4-0 against Platteville.  La Crosse drops one of four against Illinois Tech.  Oshkosh opens conference play Wednesday in WHITEWATER.

I didn't see Illinois Tech taking a game from UWW, UWO, UWSP or LAX... That could be a costly loss for LaCrosse.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 11, 2018, 09:34:55 AM


Out of conference:

Illinois Tech (8-7):  Beloit (W 4-3), Mass. College of Liberal Arts (L 4-5, W 7-5),  Olivet (L 1-6), Cazenovia (W 5-2). Fitchburg State (W 4-0, W 1-0), Keene State (L 6-14),  Milwaukee School of Engineering (W 7-0, L 1-5), Wisconsin Lutheran (w 11-7, W 9-3), Carthage (L 3-13, L 0-15), Chicago (L 13-18)

La Crosse: (8-5):  St Thomas (W 2-0), Southern Maine (W 12-11), Spalding (L 2-4), College of New Jersey (L 2-3), SUNY Brockport (W 9-7), RIT (W 5-0), lllinois Wesleyan (W 18-5), Benedictine (L 4-5), Webster (W 4-2), Concordia - Chicago (L 3-8, L 8-14), St Scholastica (W 6-4, W 14-11)

Oshkosh (13-2): Wabash (L 4-5), Transylvania (W 9-1, L 10-14), St Thomas (W 4-3, W 6-3), Ripon (W 7-1), St Scholastica (W 4-2), Lawrence (W 15-1), Washington & Jefferson (W 11-1), Grinnell (W 8-0,), Benedictine (W 13-3), Thomas (W 20-0), Wis Lutheran (W 11-2), Milwaukee School of Engineering (W 12-2, W 10-7)

Platteville (6-10): Aurora (L 1-3), Olivet (L 6-7), Spalding (L 1-11), Anderson (L 5-9), Spalding (L 2-12), DePauw (W 15-13), Fonbonne (L 3-13, L 3-5), Rose Hulman (L 3-20), Chicago (L 6-7), Rose Hulman (W 8-6), Belhaven (L 5-10, W 10-8, W 15-12), Millsaps (W 8-7), Edgewood (W 6-4)

Stevens Point (7-3): St Olaf (W 3-1, W 9-6), Western New England (L 1-2), Washington & Jefferson (L 4-5, W 6-0), Keuka (W 20-0), St Thomas (L 1-6, W 5-2), Colby (W 4-2), Colby (W 10-5)

Stout (3-8): Augsburg (L 0-3, L 5-8), Hamline (L 2-9, W 6-2), Edgewood (W 15-9), St Michael's (L 2-3, L 2-4), North Park (L 7-16), Lakeland (W 9-5), Augustana (L 3-5), SUNY-Plattsburg (L 7-10)

WARHAWKS (8-2): Babson (W 5-3), Hope (W 11-1), Washington & Jefferson (W 8-1), Lawrence (W 9-4), Grinnell (W 16-4), St Olaf (L 3-6), St Thomas (L 0-3), Ripon (W 15-3, W 11-5)

Through 4/11
Overall: 53-37 .590








Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on April 12, 2018, 08:46:14 AM
I had to leave after game one of the UWO/UWW matchup on Wednesday. They clearly were pitching around Bryden, which isn't a big surprise. He did go 0-6 for the day with two BBs, but he's a smart and talented player and I suspect he'll adapt to hitting/fouling off bad pitches and develop a little more patience. Give UWO credit for a successful strategy.

To me, there was very little energy from the Warhawks, which was the exact opposite of the Titans. We know this is an intense rivalry, but my impression was the Warhawks appeared a little flat-footed. The combination of costly errors and absence of hitting (or timely hitting) made a big difference in game two, and game one was no walk in the park. I was surprised to see Kaska in relief in game one after throwing on Sunday and a probable for this weekend. The pitching depth seems to be a bit of a concern. I'm curious to hear BADGERWARHAWK's take.

With the wintry forecast for LAX this weekend, I'm wondering if that series will somehow be pushed.



Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 12, 2018, 09:40:34 AM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on April 12, 2018, 08:46:14 AM
I had to leave after game one of the UWO/UWW matchup on Wednesday. They clearly were pitching around Bryden, which isn't a big surprise. He did go 0-6 for the day with two BBs, but he's a smart and talented player and I suspect he'll adapt to hitting/fouling off bad pitches and develop a little more patience. Give UWO credit for a successful strategy.

To me, there was very little energy from the Warhawks, which was the exact opposite of the Titans. We know this is an intense rivalry, but my impression was the Warhawks appeared a little flat-footed. The combination of costly errors and absence of hitting (or timely hitting) made a big difference in game two, and game one was no walk in the park. I was surprised to see Kaska in relief in game one after throwing on Sunday and a probable for this weekend. The pitching depth seems to be a bit of a concern. I'm curious to hear BADGERWARHAWK's take.

With the wintry forecast for LAX this weekend, I'm wondering if that series will somehow be pushed.
That's an understatement....  If UWO had a Gruetzmacher-type relief pitcher at their disposal, I'm not so sure Treml gets pulled earlier with UWO up 6-1 in the sixth inning. 

With that said, I thought it was just another example of an elite team like Whitewater showing that "never say die" attitude to fight back and tie in in the 6th inning and tie it again and then take the lead in the 8th inning.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 12, 2018, 10:29:07 AM
Our defense was pretty bad in both games. 

In game one it seemed it wasn't so much that we weren't hitting the ball as much as where we were hitting it.  Every deep fly ball was run down and caught and every line drive or hot grounder was directly at someone.  The Titan defense made several really outstanding plays.  I have to give them credit for that.  It was only late in the game that some of those balls started finding holes or clearing the fence and we got a couple of breaks when the Titan defense made a couple costly mistakes. 

In the second game there was some of the same.  Hard hit balls that the Titan defense, to their credit, made plays on.  But for the most part we struggled against their pitching.  Some of our defensive mistakes were hard to take.  I had to leave after the sixth inning so I didn't see what was happening when we were finally able to get on the board. 

It would have been nice to win both but I'll take a split.   Losing both would have really hurt.  The Titans are good and they're going to be much more of a factor in the conference race than in the recent past.  We can't keep playing defense like we did yesterday and expect good things to happen.  Almost half of the Titan's runs were unearned. 

In other conference action Point took two from Stout and La Crosse swept Platteville.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 12, 2018, 07:28:46 PM
UWSP stays perfect in WIAC play today with a 5-3 victory over UWO in Oshkosh. Erickson with the victory over Sustachek.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 13, 2018, 01:41:08 PM
All games scheduled for this weekend have been postponed and rescheduled for the weekend of May 11th and 12th, which was when the WIAC Tournament was scheduled to be played.

Thanks to the wonderful weather this year AND since there isn't a Pool A bid attached to the WIAC Tournament this year, the WIAC has decided to cancel the tournament for this year.

http://www.wiacsports.com/news/2018/4/13/wiac-announces-cancellation-of-baseball-postseason-tournament.aspx
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on April 13, 2018, 02:50:29 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 13, 2018, 01:41:08 PM
All games scheduled for this weekend have been postponed and rescheduled for the weekend of May 11th and 12th, which was when the WIAC Tournament was scheduled to be played.

Thanks to the wonderful weather this year AND since there isn't a Pool A bid attached to the WIAC Tournament this year, the WIAC has decided to cancel the tournament for this year.

http://www.wiacsports.com/news/2018/4/13/wiac-announces-cancellation-of-baseball-postseason-tournament.aspx

WOW. The last two weekend series will be UWO at UWLC, UWSP at UWW and UWW at UWLC (assuming winter weather ever ends). We all knew losing the AQ this year was going to have an impact...we just didn't realize to what degree.


Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 13, 2018, 03:05:35 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on April 13, 2018, 02:50:29 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 13, 2018, 01:41:08 PM
All games scheduled for this weekend have been postponed and rescheduled for the weekend of May 11th and 12th, which was when the WIAC Tournament was scheduled to be played.

Thanks to the wonderful weather this year AND since there isn't a Pool A bid attached to the WIAC Tournament this year, the WIAC has decided to cancel the tournament for this year.

http://www.wiacsports.com/news/2018/4/13/wiac-announces-cancellation-of-baseball-postseason-tournament.aspx

WOW. The last two weekend series will be UWO at UWLC, UWSP at UWW and UWW at UWLC (assuming winter weather ever ends). We all knew losing the AQ this year was going to have an impact...we just didn't realize to what degree.
I have been of the opinion that the losing the AQ would have little to no impact in most seasons... 

Why?  I figured that in most years where the WIAC champion goes 17-3/18-2/18-6/19-4/21-2 like the past five regular season champions have gone, the Pool A bid would just be replaced by the Pool B spot. 

With no WIAC Tournament now this year, that is two less losses three of the four tournament qualifiers will finish with which should also help in terms of their Pool C resume, although they may lose the chance to improve their SOS.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on April 13, 2018, 03:27:59 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 13, 2018, 03:05:35 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on April 13, 2018, 02:50:29 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 13, 2018, 01:41:08 PM
All games scheduled for this weekend have been postponed and rescheduled for the weekend of May 11th and 12th, which was when the WIAC Tournament was scheduled to be played.

Thanks to the wonderful weather this year AND since there isn't a Pool A bid attached to the WIAC Tournament this year, the WIAC has decided to cancel the tournament for this year.

http://www.wiacsports.com/news/2018/4/13/wiac-announces-cancellation-of-baseball-postseason-tournament.aspx

WOW. The last two weekend series will be UWO at UWLC, UWSP at UWW and UWW at UWLC (assuming winter weather ever ends). We all knew losing the AQ this year was going to have an impact...we just didn't realize to what degree.
I have been of the opinion that the losing the AQ would have little to no impact in most seasons... 

Why?  I figured that in most years where the WIAC champion goes 17-3/18-2/18-6/19-4/21-2 like the past five regular season champions have gone, the Pool A bid would just be replaced by the Pool B spot. 

With no WIAC Tournament now this year, that is two less losses three of the four tournament qualifiers will finish with which should also help in terms of their Pool C resume, although they may lose the chance to improve their SOS.

I do think losing the chance to improve SOS may be a problem, and a smaller body of work overall. If the conference standings remain the same, the top four teams' current records are 15-4, 15-3, 13-6, 14-4. There will be additional losses for some, of not all.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 13, 2018, 03:40:05 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on April 13, 2018, 03:27:59 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 13, 2018, 03:05:35 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on April 13, 2018, 02:50:29 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 13, 2018, 01:41:08 PM
All games scheduled for this weekend have been postponed and rescheduled for the weekend of May 11th and 12th, which was when the WIAC Tournament was scheduled to be played.

Thanks to the wonderful weather this year AND since there isn't a Pool A bid attached to the WIAC Tournament this year, the WIAC has decided to cancel the tournament for this year.

http://www.wiacsports.com/news/2018/4/13/wiac-announces-cancellation-of-baseball-postseason-tournament.aspx

WOW. The last two weekend series will be UWO at UWLC, UWSP at UWW and UWW at UWLC (assuming winter weather ever ends). We all knew losing the AQ this year was going to have an impact...we just didn't realize to what degree.
I have been of the opinion that the losing the AQ would have little to no impact in most seasons... 

Why?  I figured that in most years where the WIAC champion goes 17-3/18-2/18-6/19-4/21-2 like the past five regular season champions have gone, the Pool A bid would just be replaced by the Pool B spot. 

With no WIAC Tournament now this year, that is two less losses three of the four tournament qualifiers will finish with which should also help in terms of their Pool C resume, although they may lose the chance to improve their SOS.

I do think losing the chance to improve SOS may be a problem, and a smaller body of work overall. If the conference standings remain the same, the top four teams' current records are 15-4, 15-3, 13-6, 14-4. There will be additional losses for some, of not all.
I used the WIAC record above, not overall....

Anyway, I still don't think the loss of a Pool A  will have a huge impact except possibly when it comes to earning multiple bids.  I think the WIAC Champion is going to get in the majority of the time regardless of not having a Pool A bid attached to the Conference Tournament champion.

Could I be wrong?  Sure, so it will be interesting to follow as the season goes on.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on April 13, 2018, 04:17:01 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 13, 2018, 03:40:05 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on April 13, 2018, 03:27:59 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 13, 2018, 03:05:35 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on April 13, 2018, 02:50:29 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 13, 2018, 01:41:08 PM
All games scheduled for this weekend have been postponed and rescheduled for the weekend of May 11th and 12th, which was when the WIAC Tournament was scheduled to be played.

Thanks to the wonderful weather this year AND since there isn't a Pool A bid attached to the WIAC Tournament this year, the WIAC has decided to cancel the tournament for this year.

http://www.wiacsports.com/news/2018/4/13/wiac-announces-cancellation-of-baseball-postseason-tournament.aspx

WOW. The last two weekend series will be UWO at UWLC, UWSP at UWW and UWW at UWLC (assuming winter weather ever ends). We all knew losing the AQ this year was going to have an impact...we just didn't realize to what degree.
I have been of the opinion that the losing the AQ would have little to no impact in most seasons... 

Why?  I figured that in most years where the WIAC champion goes 17-3/18-2/18-6/19-4/21-2 like the past five regular season champions have gone, the Pool A bid would just be replaced by the Pool B spot. 

With no WIAC Tournament now this year, that is two less losses three of the four tournament qualifiers will finish with which should also help in terms of their Pool C resume, although they may lose the chance to improve their SOS.

I do think losing the chance to improve SOS may be a problem, and a smaller body of work overall. If the conference standings remain the same, the top four teams' current records are 15-4, 15-3, 13-6, 14-4. There will be additional losses for some, of not all.
I used the WIAC record above, not overall....

Anyway, I still don't think the loss of a Pool A  will have a huge impact except possibly when it comes to earning multiple bids.  I think the WIAC Champion is going to get in the majority of the time regardless of not having a Pool A bid attached to the Conference Tournament champion.

Could I be wrong?  Sure, so it will be interesting to follow as the season goes on.

It sure will be interesting to follow. Once again it appears so much will be decided at the end of the season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 14, 2018, 10:56:47 AM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on April 13, 2018, 02:50:29 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 13, 2018, 01:41:08 PM
All games scheduled for this weekend have been postponed and rescheduled for the weekend of May 11th and 12th, which was when the WIAC Tournament was scheduled to be played.

Thanks to the wonderful weather this year AND since there isn't a Pool A bid attached to the WIAC Tournament this year, the WIAC has decided to cancel the tournament for this year.

http://www.wiacsports.com/news/2018/4/13/wiac-announces-cancellation-of-baseball-postseason-tournament.aspx

WOW. The last two weekend series will be UWO at UWLC, UWSP at UWW and UWW at UWLC (assuming winter weather ever ends). We all knew losing the AQ this year was going to have an impact...we just didn't realize to what degree.
The WIAC having no AQ will not affect the WIAC in any way, but it will have long reaching results across the nation as those team that traditional are in the running for a Pool B spot are no facing a top-heavy Pool B with the WIAC schools in there... could the WIAC take multiple Pool B bids? Not out of the question at all.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on April 14, 2018, 01:18:54 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 14, 2018, 10:56:47 AM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on April 13, 2018, 02:50:29 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 13, 2018, 01:41:08 PM
All games scheduled for this weekend have been postponed and rescheduled for the weekend of May 11th and 12th, which was when the WIAC Tournament was scheduled to be played.

Thanks to the wonderful weather this year AND since there isn't a Pool A bid attached to the WIAC Tournament this year, the WIAC has decided to cancel the tournament for this year.

http://www.wiacsports.com/news/2018/4/13/wiac-announces-cancellation-of-baseball-postseason-tournament.aspx

WOW. The last two weekend series will be UWO at UWLC, UWSP at UWW and UWW at UWLC (assuming winter weather ever ends). We all knew losing the AQ this year was going to have an impact...we just didn't realize to what degree.
The WIAC having no AQ will not affect the WIAC in any way, but it will have long reaching results across the nation as those team that traditional are in the running for a Pool B spot are no facing a top-heavy Pool B with the WIAC schools in there... could the WIAC take multiple Pool B bids? Not out of the question at all.

No tournament helps.  the teams that go and do not win are now no longer guaranteed to get two in region losses.  I see two WIAC teams getting in with the third WIAC team getting a pretty good boost in their chance for a pool c bid.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 14, 2018, 02:09:33 PM
Looks like I'm not alone in my opinion....  With guys like Jim and Shannon in agreement, based on their experience, how could I be wrong now!!   ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on April 15, 2018, 12:19:23 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 14, 2018, 02:09:33 PM
Looks like I'm not alone in my opinion....  With guys like Jim and Shannon in agreement, based on their experience, how could I be wrong now!!   ;)

One can easily make he case that the best WIAC team would always have gotten a Pool B bid, thus the loss of the automatic bid is somewhat moot.  If the conference was like Midwest, it would be a different story as the team winning the MWC tournament, Pool A s their only path to the playoffs.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 15, 2018, 12:52:57 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 15, 2018, 12:19:23 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 14, 2018, 02:09:33 PM
Looks like I'm not alone in my opinion....  With guys like Jim and Shannon in agreement, based on their experience, how could I be wrong now!!   ;)
One can easily make he case that the best WIAC team would always have gotten a Pool B bid, thus the loss of the automatic bid is somewhat moot.  If the conference was like Midwest, it would be a different story as the team winning the MWC tournament, Pool A s their only path to the playoffs.
Which is what I have been saying since Superior decided to leave the WIAC and join the UMAC....  Sure, there could be an occasional year where the WIAC doesn't earn a Pool B bid, but I would believe that would be VERY rare unless the level of play in the WIAC drops significantly!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on April 16, 2018, 12:05:17 PM
One problem is that there is not a good option to make the WIAC a seven team conference unless another UW school picks up baseball.  I would actually suggest the NCAA to make all six team conferences since seven just seem like an odd number (well it is odd but...)

The only consequence could be the ASC splitting in two for two pool a bids.  The USA South, with 14 members, can already do this and get two A bids.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 16, 2018, 07:11:54 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 16, 2018, 12:05:17 PM
One problem is that there is not a good option to make the WIAC a seven team conference unless another UW school picks up baseball.  I would actually suggest the NCAA to make all six team conferences since seven just seem like an odd number (well it is odd but...)

The only consequence could be the ASC splitting in two for two pool a bids.  The USA South, with 14 members, can already do this and get two A bids.

Who is the most logical team to move into the WIAC? ANy chance UW-Parkside would drop from D2 into D3? The are the state's only D2 program, and UW Milwaukee is the state's only D1. How is this possible???? I think part of the reason Wisconsin's D3s are so good nationally is that they often get D1/D2 type kids who fall into their laps as very few D1 schools recruit Wisconsin (Arkansas seems to always grab a kid or two).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on April 17, 2018, 10:48:45 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 16, 2018, 07:11:54 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 16, 2018, 12:05:17 PM
One problem is that there is not a good option to make the WIAC a seven team conference unless another UW school picks up baseball.  I would actually suggest the NCAA to make all six team conferences since seven just seem like an odd number (well it is odd but...)

The only consequence could be the ASC splitting in two for two pool a bids.  The USA South, with 14 members, can already do this and get two A bids.

Who is the most logical team to move into the WIAC? ANy chance UW-Parkside would drop from D2 into D3? The are the state's only D2 program, and UW Milwaukee is the state's only D1. How is this possible???? I think part of the reason Wisconsin's D3s are so good nationally is that they often get D1/D2 type kids who fall into their laps as very few D1 schools recruit Wisconsin (Arkansas seems to always grab a kid or two).

UW-Parkside would probably not challenge the top WIAC teams.  The more likely path is for River Falls or Eau Claire to add baseball.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 17, 2018, 12:49:11 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 17, 2018, 10:48:45 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 16, 2018, 07:11:54 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 16, 2018, 12:05:17 PM
One problem is that there is not a good option to make the WIAC a seven team conference unless another UW school picks up baseball.  I would actually suggest the NCAA to make all six team conferences since seven just seem like an odd number (well it is odd but...)

The only consequence could be the ASC splitting in two for two pool a bids.  The USA South, with 14 members, can already do this and get two A bids.

Who is the most logical team to move into the WIAC? ANy chance UW-Parkside would drop from D2 into D3? The are the state's only D2 program, and UW Milwaukee is the state's only D1. How is this possible???? I think part of the reason Wisconsin's D3s are so good nationally is that they often get D1/D2 type kids who fall into their laps as very few D1 schools recruit Wisconsin (Arkansas seems to always grab a kid or two).

UW-Parkside would probably not challenge the top WIAC teams.  The more likely path is for River Falls or Eau Claire to add baseball.

Agree on UW-Parkside. They have always struggled as a baseball program. I played them nearly every season while at Carthage and I do not recall us ever losing to them. The school's are only three miles apart.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 17, 2018, 01:23:16 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 16, 2018, 07:11:54 PM
I think part of the reason Wisconsin's D3s are so good nationally is that they often get D1/D2 type kids who fall into their laps as very few D1 schools recruit Wisconsin (Arkansas seems to always grab a kid or two).
If what I am hearing is accurate, there is a pair of kids from the same high school that will be heading to Arkansas in the Fall of 2019 to play baseball....  There was a time where I thought both would end up playing in the WIAC.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 17, 2018, 02:17:04 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 17, 2018, 01:23:16 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 16, 2018, 07:11:54 PM
I think part of the reason Wisconsin's D3s are so good nationally is that they often get D1/D2 type kids who fall into their laps as very few D1 schools recruit Wisconsin (Arkansas seems to always grab a kid or two).
If what I am hearing is accurate, there is a pair of kids from the same high school that will be heading to Arkansas in the Fall of 2019 to play baseball....  There was a time where I thought both would end up playing in the WIAC.

My point exactly... Arkansas has ALWAYS found a few kids there. Not many others make much effort in the state.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: mwunder on April 17, 2018, 03:33:45 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 17, 2018, 12:49:11 PM

Agree on UW-Parkside. They have always struggled as a baseball program. I played them nearly every season while at Carthage and I do not recall us ever losing to them. The school's are only three miles apart.

Carthage is actually 8-14-1 all time vs the Rangers.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 17, 2018, 04:50:58 PM
WARHAWKS take game one at Illinois Tech 7-0.  Jones gets the win allowing 5 hits and striking out 7 without a walk in 7 innings.  O'Sullivan and Makuski each threw a 1-2-3 inning in relief.  The WARHAWKS held a slim 1-0 through 7 2/3 innings with their only run scoring on a balk in the third before Bryden and Aldridge both doubled to push the score to 4-0 and the WARHAWKS added three in the eighth on an error, bases loaded walk and a single. 

For a true freshman I really like O'Sullivan.  He's a tall lefty with good velocity and a decent breaking ball.  He's yet to give up a run or base on balls and has 18 K's in 12 innings.  Baring the unforeseen I think he has the potential to be very good by the time he's graduated.


WARHAWKS take game two 7-1.  Scoreless through three the WARHAWKS put three on the board in the 4th.  Illinois Tech scored a single run in the bottom of the inning but the WARHAWKS added three more in the fifth and a single run in the sixth.  Doud had three hits and an RBI.  Aldridge, Aiello and Wary all had RBI as well.  Kaska got the win going 5 innings, allowing 6 hits and striking out 3.  Heilenbach pitched 2 scoreless innings surrendering a pair of hits with 1 walk and 3 strikeouts.  Makuski and Grutzmacher each threw one scoreless inning. 



Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigSpotScott on April 17, 2018, 05:21:01 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 16, 2018, 07:11:54 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 16, 2018, 12:05:17 PM
One problem is that there is not a good option to make the WIAC a seven team conference unless another UW school picks up baseball.  I would actually suggest the NCAA to make all six team conferences since seven just seem like an odd number (well it is odd but...)

The only consequence could be the ASC splitting in two for two pool a bids.  The USA South, with 14 members, can already do this and get two A bids.

Who is the most logical team to move into the WIAC? ANy chance UW-Parkside would drop from D2 into D3? The are the state's only D2 program, and UW Milwaukee is the state's only D1. How is this possible???? I think part of the reason Wisconsin's D3s are so good nationally is that they often get D1/D2 type kids who fall into their laps as very few D1 schools recruit Wisconsin (Arkansas seems to always grab a kid or two).

Very few is a gross understatement. Especially with technology and all of the showcases, D1 teams have it easier than ever to recruit Wisconsin. This statement maybe was valid in the 90s and early 2000s, but today, if you're good, they'll find you.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on April 19, 2018, 10:35:14 AM
It is indeed easier to fnd a player these days but one thing that helps keep any player in state is that it is easier for parents and friends to see the games if the player stays local.  I suspect this helps keep players in state.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on April 19, 2018, 01:09:00 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 19, 2018, 10:35:14 AM
It is indeed easier to fnd a player these days but one thing that helps keep any player in state is that it is easier for parents and friends to see the games if the player stays local.  I suspect this helps keep players in state.
That's a great point.

And as much as showcases and online profiles/videos help in the process, they are only one part of the equation. Recruiters still want to see the players in actual game situations, knowing that a showcase beast isn't always the best all around player or teammate. Trips to games are still very important, and the northern climate is just not always recruiter-friendly for baseball.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on April 19, 2018, 01:13:15 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 17, 2018, 02:17:04 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 17, 2018, 01:23:16 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 16, 2018, 07:11:54 PM
I think part of the reason Wisconsin's D3s are so good nationally is that they often get D1/D2 type kids who fall into their laps as very few D1 schools recruit Wisconsin (Arkansas seems to always grab a kid or two).
If what I am hearing is accurate, there is a pair of kids from the same high school that will be heading to Arkansas in the Fall of 2019 to play baseball....  There was a time where I thought both would end up playing in the WIAC.

My point exactly... Arkansas has ALWAYS found a few kids there. Not many others make much effort in the state.
Arkansas doesn't pick up Wisconsin kids by random chance. Arkansas' connection to Wisconsin comes from their longtime Coach Norm DeBriyn. DeBriyn was an Ashland native, played two years of football and baseball at UWO, and coached at Hortonville HS before moving on to Northern Colarado before a lengthy and successful career at Arkansas. http://www.uwoshkoshtitans.com/HallofFame/Year/Releases/1991 (http://www.uwoshkoshtitans.com/HallofFame/Year/Releases/1991)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: houdini on April 21, 2018, 06:00:42 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 17, 2018, 01:23:16 PM
If what I am hearing is accurate, there is a pair of kids from the same high school that will be heading to Arkansas in the Fall of 2019 to play baseball....  There was a time where I thought both would end up playing in the WIAC.
What, the Lechnir twins aren't going to Oshkosh, I'm shocked :o  If I was a kid with D1 talent, I wouldn't go D3 just because my dad was the coach.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 22, 2018, 09:37:30 AM
As I said before, the Razorbacks clean up in the Dairy State. Not sure why they seem to be the one constant presence... have others not learned from Norm DeBriyn?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigSpotScott on April 25, 2018, 11:05:09 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on April 08, 2018, 12:32:46 AM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 07, 2018, 11:23:59 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2018, 07:25:24 PM
We haven't kept it a secret and have been doing it long enough that at the least the conference commissioner should know about it.  I don't know the rules that well but I'm doubting your understanding.  We simply purchased advertising from Fox Sports.  I suspect Oshkosh could do the same.

WARHAWKS take two ten run rule shortened games with Stout 14-4, 11-1 today.  Bryden goes 4x5 with 4 RBIs and Jones gets 8Ks and the win in game one.  Rentz allows 4 hits and strikes out 6 while Sontoro gets 3 hits and a pair of RBI in game two.   

A balmy 33 was the best it got today.  Two more tomorrow.
It's a violation. You can't recruit athletes via advertisements on TV. If you could I guarantee you would see every D1 school doing it. Especially something like UW-Milwaukee basketball.
I'd be interested in knowing how you are going to stand behind your guarantee. Or are those empty words? It is absolutely not a violation. Is UW-W ahead of the curve on this? Yes. As usual. There are restrictions on current student athletes' roles in advertisements. That's why former athletes are participating. it would be great if you would produce the rule being violated or admit you are wrong. I predict you will do neither.

I ran across this thread and found this very interesting. What raised my suspicion is that in the hundreds of ads I've seen for colleges on ESPN, BTN, etc. during college sports games, not once have I seen highlights of sports and/or mention of national championships and athletics. When athletes are featured, they talk about academics. The ads are truly to get people to go to the colleges as students, not student-athletes.

That brought me to this website:
https://web3.ncaa.org/lsdbi/search/bylawView?id=103405#result
Specifically, 13.4.2.1
"The publication of advertising or promotional material, by or on behalf of a member institution, designed to solicit the enrollment of a prospective student-athlete is not permitted."

Now, for those of you who attended UWW, "permitted" is another word for "allowed". So unless you truly believe that UWW showing highlight after highlight, and having former players and current coaches talk about winning national championships is somehow NOT targeted at prospective student-athletes, then I guess UWW is in the clear. However, I think people who don't "bleed purple" would find this highly suspicious if not illegal.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on April 26, 2018, 08:19:23 AM
Quote from: BigSpotScott on April 25, 2018, 11:05:09 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on April 08, 2018, 12:32:46 AM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 07, 2018, 11:23:59 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2018, 07:25:24 PM
We haven't kept it a secret and have been doing it long enough that at the least the conference commissioner should know about it.  I don't know the rules that well but I'm doubting your understanding.  We simply purchased advertising from Fox Sports.  I suspect Oshkosh could do the same.

WARHAWKS take two ten run rule shortened games with Stout 14-4, 11-1 today.  Bryden goes 4x5 with 4 RBIs and Jones gets 8Ks and the win in game one.  Rentz allows 4 hits and strikes out 6 while Sontoro gets 3 hits and a pair of RBI in game two.   

A balmy 33 was the best it got today.  Two more tomorrow.
It's a violation. You can't recruit athletes via advertisements on TV. If you could I guarantee you would see every D1 school doing it. Especially something like UW-Milwaukee basketball.
I'd be interested in knowing how you are going to stand behind your guarantee. Or are those empty words? It is absolutely not a violation. Is UW-W ahead of the curve on this? Yes. As usual. There are restrictions on current student athletes' roles in advertisements. That's why former athletes are participating. it would be great if you would produce the rule being violated or admit you are wrong. I predict you will do neither.

I ran across this thread and found this very interesting. What raised my suspicion is that in the hundreds of ads I've seen for colleges on ESPN, BTN, etc. during college sports games, not once have I seen highlights of sports and/or mention of national championships and athletics. When athletes are featured, they talk about academics. The ads are truly to get people to go to the colleges as students, not student-athletes.

That brought me to this website:
https://web3.ncaa.org/lsdbi/search/bylawView?id=103405#result
Specifically, 13.4.2.1
"The publication of advertising or promotional material, by or on behalf of a member institution, designed to solicit the enrollment of a prospective student-athlete is not permitted."

Now, for those of you who attended UWW, "permitted" is another word for "allowed". So unless you truly believe that UWW showing highlight after highlight, and having former players and current coaches talk about winning national championships is somehow NOT targeted at prospective student-athletes, then I guess UWW is in the clear. However, I think people who don't "bleed purple" would find this highly suspicious if not illegal.

Obviously the NCAA and WIAC are fine with what UWW is doing, and that's all that matters. These ads have been running for years now and nothing has been declared "highly suspicious if not illegal" by anyone of importance. With the exception of some message board posters
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 26, 2018, 09:48:43 AM
Quote from: BigSpotScott on April 25, 2018, 11:05:09 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on April 08, 2018, 12:32:46 AM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 07, 2018, 11:23:59 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2018, 07:25:24 PM
We haven't kept it a secret and have been doing it long enough that at the least the conference commissioner should know about it.  I don't know the rules that well but I'm doubting your understanding.  We simply purchased advertising from Fox Sports.  I suspect Oshkosh could do the same.

WARHAWKS take two ten run rule shortened games with Stout 14-4, 11-1 today.  Bryden goes 4x5 with 4 RBIs and Jones gets 8Ks and the win in game one.  Rentz allows 4 hits and strikes out 6 while Sontoro gets 3 hits and a pair of RBI in game two.   

A balmy 33 was the best it got today.  Two more tomorrow.
It’s a violation. You can’t recruit athletes via advertisements on TV. If you could I guarantee you would see every D1 school doing it. Especially something like UW-Milwaukee basketball.
I'd be interested in knowing how you are going to stand behind your guarantee. Or are those empty words? It is absolutely not a violation. Is UW-W ahead of the curve on this? Yes. As usual. There are restrictions on current student athletes' roles in advertisements. That's why former athletes are participating. it would be great if you would produce the rule being violated or admit you are wrong. I predict you will do neither.

I ran across this thread and found this very interesting. What raised my suspicion is that in the hundreds of ads I’ve seen for colleges on ESPN, BTN, etc. during college sports games, not once have I seen highlights of sports and/or mention of national championships and athletics. When athletes are featured, they talk about academics. The ads are truly to get people to go to the colleges as students, not student-athletes.

That brought me to this website:
https://web3.ncaa.org/lsdbi/search/bylawView?id=103405#result
Specifically, 13.4.2.1
“The publication of advertising or promotional material, by or on behalf of a member institution, designed to solicit the enrollment of a prospective student-athlete is not permitted.”

Now, for those of you who attended UWW, “permitted” is another word for “allowed”. So unless you truly believe that UWW showing highlight after highlight, and having former players and current coaches talk about winning national championships is somehow NOT targeted at prospective student-athletes, then I guess UWW is in the clear. However, I think people who don’t “bleed purple” would find this highly suspicious if not illegal.


For those of you who haven't attended UW-W KMA is another way to say kiss my ass. 

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on April 26, 2018, 10:24:52 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 26, 2018, 09:48:43 AM
Quote from: BigSpotScott on April 25, 2018, 11:05:09 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on April 08, 2018, 12:32:46 AM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 07, 2018, 11:23:59 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2018, 07:25:24 PM
We haven't kept it a secret and have been doing it long enough that at the least the conference commissioner should know about it.  I don't know the rules that well but I'm doubting your understanding.  We simply purchased advertising from Fox Sports.  I suspect Oshkosh could do the same.

WARHAWKS take two ten run rule shortened games with Stout 14-4, 11-1 today.  Bryden goes 4x5 with 4 RBIs and Jones gets 8Ks and the win in game one.  Rentz allows 4 hits and strikes out 6 while Sontoro gets 3 hits and a pair of RBI in game two.   

A balmy 33 was the best it got today.  Two more tomorrow.
It's a violation. You can't recruit athletes via advertisements on TV. If you could I guarantee you would see every D1 school doing it. Especially something like UW-Milwaukee basketball.
I'd be interested in knowing how you are going to stand behind your guarantee. Or are those empty words? It is absolutely not a violation. Is UW-W ahead of the curve on this? Yes. As usual. There are restrictions on current student athletes' roles in advertisements. That's why former athletes are participating. it would be great if you would produce the rule being violated or admit you are wrong. I predict you will do neither.

I ran across this thread and found this very interesting. What raised my suspicion is that in the hundreds of ads I've seen for colleges on ESPN, BTN, etc. during college sports games, not once have I seen highlights of sports and/or mention of national championships and athletics. When athletes are featured, they talk about academics. The ads are truly to get people to go to the colleges as students, not student-athletes.

That brought me to this website:
https://web3.ncaa.org/lsdbi/search/bylawView?id=103405#result
Specifically, 13.4.2.1
"The publication of advertising or promotional material, by or on behalf of a member institution, designed to solicit the enrollment of a prospective student-athlete is not permitted."

Now, for those of you who attended UWW, "permitted" is another word for "allowed". So unless you truly believe that UWW showing highlight after highlight, and having former players and current coaches talk about winning national championships is somehow NOT targeted at prospective student-athletes, then I guess UWW is in the clear. However, I think people who don't "bleed purple" would find this highly suspicious if not illegal.


For those of you who haven't attended UW-W KMA is another way to say kiss my ass.

;D

And since obviously the governing bodies have no issue with the practice, one has to wonder why other WIAC programs aren't sharing their many accomplishments and storied histories through advertising, as well ...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on April 26, 2018, 10:25:54 AM
Was anyone at the UWW-UWO games yesterday? I have heard about how game two concluded and the video is circulating on social media. Would be interested in first-hand perspective.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 26, 2018, 10:55:39 AM
The WARHAWKS split yesterday's twin bill with the Titans losing the first game 5-1 and winning the mercy rule shortened second game 11-1.  Jones took the loss in game one allowing 7 hits and 3 runs (1 earned) over 7 innings while striking out 11.  Aeillo drove in our only run with a double in the eighth.  Our defense struggled committing 5 errors.  Tremel was tough throwing a complete game 3 hitter with 7 Ks.  He was pretty much in control the whole way.  Game two was a different story as the WARHAWKS hit Gregory hard taking a 6-1 lead after 5 innings and putting the game away with a 5 run 6th off his reliever.  Kaska picked up his 6th win of the season limiting the Titans to 2 hits and a single unearned run in 5 innings.  Rentz relieved with 2 scoreless innings.  Szubert had 3 hits with a pair of RBI and Wary had 3 RBI with a pair of hits.  Bryden, Aldridge, Santoro and Aeillo also had RBI. 

In other games La Crosse and Platteville combined for 51 runs with the Eagles taking both games 16-12 and 12-11. In what seems to be a head scratcher Stout took a pair from Point 5-2 and 4-3. 


I haven't seen the video but in real time it appeared Aeillo had the ball and was in the base path.  By rule Ott was required to slide.  He made absolutely no attempt to do so.  I have no idea and can't speak to what was going through his mind but it was clear by his actions that his intent was to take Aeillo out.  It was unnecessary and he was ejected.  Aeillo did get up and walk away eventually.  Hopefully he'll be ok and ready to play this weekend in Platteville. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 26, 2018, 12:05:11 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on April 26, 2018, 10:25:54 AM
Was anyone at the UWW-UWO games yesterday? I have heard about how game two concluded and the video is circulating on social media. Would be interested in first-hand perspective.

Oh don't leave it hanging. Share a link!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on April 26, 2018, 12:30:39 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on April 26, 2018, 12:05:11 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on April 26, 2018, 10:25:54 AM
Was anyone at the UWW-UWO games yesterday? I have heard about how game two concluded and the video is circulating on social media. Would be interested in first-hand perspective.

Oh don't leave it hanging. Share a link!

It appears it may have been pulled down. If I find it again I will share it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 26, 2018, 12:42:48 PM
Here you go....

https://mobile.twitter.com/UwwBarstool/status/989344360562089985
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on April 26, 2018, 12:57:34 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 26, 2018, 12:42:48 PM
Here you go....

https://mobile.twitter.com/UwwBarstool/status/989344360562089985

Thanks! I had seen it on a personal FB page.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on April 26, 2018, 01:35:46 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 26, 2018, 10:55:39 AM


I haven't seen the video but in real time it appeared Aeillo had the ball and was in the base path.  By rule Ott was required to slide.  He made absolutely no attempt to do so.  I have no idea and can't speak to what was going through his mind but it was clear by his actions that his intent was to take Aeillo out.  It was unnecessary and he was ejected.  Aeillo did get up and walk away eventually.  Hopefully he'll be ok and ready to play this weekend in Platteville.

Can't say I'm surprised.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 26, 2018, 04:31:45 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 26, 2018, 10:55:39 AM


I haven't seen the video but in real time it appeared Aeillo had the ball and was in the base path.  By rule Ott was required to slide.  He made absolutely no attempt to do so.  I have no idea and can't speak to what was going through his mind but it was clear by his actions that his intent was to take Aeillo out.  It was unnecessary and he was ejected.  Aeillo did get up and walk away eventually.  Hopefully he'll be ok and ready to play this weekend in Platteville.

Just curious if anyone else was ejected for leaving their position?  I saw a couple of UWW guys come sprinting in but no punches thrown.  Wondering if the umpires looked at that as a threat?  Also, those are my kind of guys, coming in hot after someone did that to a teammate.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on April 26, 2018, 05:20:44 PM
Quote from: BigSpotScott on April 25, 2018, 11:05:09 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on April 08, 2018, 12:32:46 AM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 07, 2018, 11:23:59 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2018, 07:25:24 PM
We haven't kept it a secret and have been doing it long enough that at the least the conference commissioner should know about it.  I don't know the rules that well but I'm doubting your understanding.  We simply purchased advertising from Fox Sports.  I suspect Oshkosh could do the same.

WARHAWKS take two ten run rule shortened games with Stout 14-4, 11-1 today.  Bryden goes 4x5 with 4 RBIs and Jones gets 8Ks and the win in game one.  Rentz allows 4 hits and strikes out 6 while Sontoro gets 3 hits and a pair of RBI in game two.   

A balmy 33 was the best it got today.  Two more tomorrow.
It's a violation. You can't recruit athletes via advertisements on TV. If you could I guarantee you would see every D1 school doing it. Especially something like UW-Milwaukee basketball.
I'd be interested in knowing how you are going to stand behind your guarantee. Or are those empty words? It is absolutely not a violation. Is UW-W ahead of the curve on this? Yes. As usual. There are restrictions on current student athletes' roles in advertisements. That's why former athletes are participating. it would be great if you would produce the rule being violated or admit you are wrong. I predict you will do neither.

I ran across this thread and found this very interesting. What raised my suspicion is that in the hundreds of ads I've seen for colleges on ESPN, BTN, etc. during college sports games, not once have I seen highlights of sports and/or mention of national championships and athletics. When athletes are featured, they talk about academics. The ads are truly to get people to go to the colleges as students, not student-athletes.

That brought me to this website:
https://web3.ncaa.org/lsdbi/search/bylawView?id=103405#result
Specifically, 13.4.2.1
"The publication of advertising or promotional material, by or on behalf of a member institution, designed to solicit the enrollment of a prospective student-athlete is not permitted."

Now, for those of you who attended UWW, "permitted" is another word for "allowed". So unless you truly believe that UWW showing highlight after highlight, and having former players and current coaches talk about winning national championships is somehow NOT targeted at prospective student-athletes, then I guess UWW is in the clear. However, I think people who don't "bleed purple" would find this highly suspicious if not illegal.

BigSpotScott,
Since I am used to hanging around UW-W guys, I recognize that you are probably the most intelligent human being I have ever attempted to communicate with, so I admit to being fairly intimidated as I try to construct sentences properly in this post. I know you will correct me, but I love learning, so being educated by a genius is an honor. You cite the following sentence:

"The publication of advertising or promotional material, by or on behalf of a member institution, designed to solicit the enrollment of a prospective student-athlete is not permitted."


Because of the use of the singular in referencing the student-athlete, it appears to me that this rule prohibits using promotional material to recruit "a prospective student-athlete" rather than student athletes in general.  If the NCAA wanted to ban all advertising, they certainly could have done so without the phrase "designed to solicit the enrollment of a prospective student-athlete".

So if a school is recruiting "Tommy Smith from DePere", they can't run an ad in the DePere Journal saying, "Tommy, the Titans love you and need you, please enroll at UW-0".  That would be advertising designed to solicit the enrollment of a prospective student-athlete.





Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 26, 2018, 06:58:09 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 26, 2018, 04:31:45 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 26, 2018, 10:55:39 AM


I haven't seen the video but in real time it appeared Aeillo had the ball and was in the base path.  By rule Ott was required to slide.  He made absolutely no attempt to do so.  I have no idea and can't speak to what was going through his mind but it was clear by his actions that his intent was to take Aeillo out.  It was unnecessary and he was ejected.  Aeillo did get up and walk away eventually.  Hopefully he'll be ok and ready to play this weekend in Platteville.

Just curious if anyone else was ejected for leaving their position?  I saw a couple of UWW guys come sprinting in but no punches thrown.  Wondering if the umpires looked at that as a threat?  Also, those are my kind of guys, coming in hot after someone did that to a teammate.


It didn't appear that anyone else was being disciplined but I suppose it's possible the league will review the video and could take some other corrective action.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on April 26, 2018, 09:19:31 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 26, 2018, 06:58:09 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 26, 2018, 04:31:45 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 26, 2018, 10:55:39 AM


I haven't seen the video but in real time it appeared Aeillo had the ball and was in the base path.  By rule Ott was required to slide.  He made absolutely no attempt to do so.  I have no idea and can't speak to what was going through his mind but it was clear by his actions that his intent was to take Aeillo out.  It was unnecessary and he was ejected.  Aeillo did get up and walk away eventually.  Hopefully he'll be ok and ready to play this weekend in Platteville.

Just curious if anyone else was ejected for leaving their position?  I saw a couple of UWW guys come sprinting in but no punches thrown.  Wondering if the umpires looked at that as a threat?  Also, those are my kind of guys, coming in hot after someone did that to a teammate.


It didn't appear that anyone else was being disciplined but I suppose it's possible the league will review the video and could take some other corrective action.

Thats good.  You never know how much the Umps will get in on that.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: houdini on April 26, 2018, 09:59:34 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 26, 2018, 09:48:43 AM
For those of you who haven't attended UW-W KMA is another way to say kiss my ass.
Whut?  I goed to Stout, eye kan bearly reed.  Koud u tipe sloer...  I thought you were good at not feeding the trolls BW.  Not all of us can be those special people who went to schools were they take requisite classes to teach them to be elitist pretentious dicks.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 26, 2018, 10:40:20 PM
Quote from: houdini on April 26, 2018, 09:59:34 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 26, 2018, 09:48:43 AM
For those of you who haven't attended UW-W KMA is another way to say kiss my ass.
Whut?  I goed to Stout, eye kan bearly reed.  Koud u tipe sloer...  I thought you were good at not feeding the trolls BW.  Not all of us can be those special people who went to schools were they take requisite classes to teach them to be elitist pretentious dicks.
:)

Hey, you knew how to use "requisite", "elitist", and "pretentious" correctly, so Stout did a pretty good job!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigSpotScott on April 26, 2018, 11:40:03 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on April 26, 2018, 05:20:44 PM
Quote from: BigSpotScott on April 25, 2018, 11:05:09 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on April 08, 2018, 12:32:46 AM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 07, 2018, 11:23:59 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2018, 07:25:24 PM
We haven't kept it a secret and have been doing it long enough that at the least the conference commissioner should know about it.  I don't know the rules that well but I'm doubting your understanding.  We simply purchased advertising from Fox Sports.  I suspect Oshkosh could do the same.

WARHAWKS take two ten run rule shortened games with Stout 14-4, 11-1 today.  Bryden goes 4x5 with 4 RBIs and Jones gets 8Ks and the win in game one.  Rentz allows 4 hits and strikes out 6 while Sontoro gets 3 hits and a pair of RBI in game two.   

A balmy 33 was the best it got today.  Two more tomorrow.
It's a violation. You can't recruit athletes via advertisements on TV. If you could I guarantee you would see every D1 school doing it. Especially something like UW-Milwaukee basketball.
I'd be interested in knowing how you are going to stand behind your guarantee. Or are those empty words? It is absolutely not a violation. Is UW-W ahead of the curve on this? Yes. As usual. There are restrictions on current student athletes' roles in advertisements. That's why former athletes are participating. it would be great if you would produce the rule being violated or admit you are wrong. I predict you will do neither.

I ran across this thread and found this very interesting. What raised my suspicion is that in the hundreds of ads I've seen for colleges on ESPN, BTN, etc. during college sports games, not once have I seen highlights of sports and/or mention of national championships and athletics. When athletes are featured, they talk about academics. The ads are truly to get people to go to the colleges as students, not student-athletes.

That brought me to this website:
https://web3.ncaa.org/lsdbi/search/bylawView?id=103405#result
Specifically, 13.4.2.1
"The publication of advertising or promotional material, by or on behalf of a member institution, designed to solicit the enrollment of a prospective student-athlete is not permitted."

Now, for those of you who attended UWW, "permitted" is another word for "allowed". So unless you truly believe that UWW showing highlight after highlight, and having former players and current coaches talk about winning national championships is somehow NOT targeted at prospective student-athletes, then I guess UWW is in the clear. However, I think people who don't "bleed purple" would find this highly suspicious if not illegal.
BigSpotScott,
Since I am used to hanging around UW-W guys, I recognize that you are probably the most intelligent human being I have ever attempted to communicate with, so I admit to being fairly intimidated as I try to construct sentences properly in this post. I know you will correct me, but I love learning, so being educated by a genius is an honor. You cite the following sentence:

"The publication of advertising or promotional material, by or on behalf of a member institution, designed to solicit the enrollment of a prospective student-athlete is not permitted."


Because of the use of the singular in referencing the student-athlete, it appears to me that this rule prohibits using promotional material to recruit "a prospective student-athlete" rather than student athletes in general.  If the NCAA wanted to ban all advertising, they certainly could have done so without the phrase "designed to solicit the enrollment of a prospective student-athlete".

So if a school is recruiting "Tommy Smith from DePere", they can't run an ad in the DePere Journal saying, "Tommy, the Titans love you and need you, please enroll at UW-0".  That would be advertising designed to solicit the enrollment of a prospective student-athlete.

Sorry about that miscommunication. If you click my link and read the entire rule, you will see the NCAA shift to using athletes (plural) in their examples. Clever rebuttal though (seriously).

Touching on another point, I don't believe the NCAA or the WIAC stand to gain anything from enforcing this rule. UWW is probably the most recognizable D3 college in the country, so the WIAC definitely has nothing to gain as this would only hurt their prestige. On the other hand, the NCAA has much more pressing issues like D1 player recruitment, and making sure I can never buy an new College Football video game. Besides, the ad is obviously ineffective as we see UWW's dynasty coming to an end.

The reason I reintroduced this topic is twofold. One, I love irritating UWW fans who are easily butt-hurt. And two, I really wanted a better explanation than "they must have done their research, so it must be okay" or "they haven't gotten in trouble, so it's clearly legal" (Paraphrasing here). Under that logic, Hillary Clinton's email server was within the law.

Go Warhawks!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on April 27, 2018, 01:57:11 PM
Quote from: BigSpotScott on April 26, 2018, 11:40:03 PM
Sorry about that miscommunication. If you click my link and read the entire rule, you will see the NCAA shift to using athletes (plural) in their examples. Clever rebuttal though (seriously).

Touching on another point, I don't believe the NCAA or the WIAC stand to gain anything from enforcing this rule. UWW is probably the most recognizable D3 college in the country, so the WIAC definitely has nothing to gain as this would only hurt their prestige. On the other hand, the NCAA has much more pressing issues like D1 player recruitment, and making sure I can never buy an new College Football video game. Besides, the ad is obviously ineffective as we see UWW's dynasty coming to an end.

The reason I reintroduced this topic is twofold. One, I love irritating UWW fans who are easily butt-hurt. And two, I really wanted a better explanation than "they must have done their research, so it must be okay" or "they haven't gotten in trouble, so it's clearly legal" (Paraphrasing here). Under that logic, Hillary Clinton's email server was within the law.

Go Warhawks!

So you are willing to own up to two of your motives, but probably not the third.  Now, along with UW-W, you've impugned the WIAC and the NCAA. Nice. However, since you are the one attempting to cast suspicion upon an action as a possible violation by UW-W, the burden is on YOU to establish the violation.  Here is the pertinent information from the link you posted.  Please show me the rule UW-W is violating:

13.4.2 Advertisements and Promotions.

13.4.2.1 Recruiting Advertisements. The publication of advertising or promotional material, by or on behalf of a member institution, designed to solicit the enrollment of a prospective student-athlete is not permitted. Accordingly, a member institution may not buy or arrange to have space in game programs or other printed materials published to provide information concerning the athletics participation or evaluation of prospective student-athletes (e.g., recruiting publications and multi-media such as list-serves, or other electronic media) for any purpose whatsoever, including advertisements, a listing of prospective or enrolled student-athletes who will attend the institution and informative materials related to the institution. (Revised: 1/13/98, 1/9/06, 4/29/09, 1/31/18)

13.4.2.1.1 Exception -- Nonathletics Institutional Advertisements. An institution (or a third party acting on behalf of the institution) may publish nonathletics institutional advertisements in nonathletics high school or two-year college publications (e.g., yearbooks, newspapers, music programs, prom programs) and other nonathletics publications or produce nonathletics institutional promotional material (e.g., use of signs, kiosks, distribution of printed materials, television and radio advertisements, electronic advertisements) for use at high school or two-year college athletics events or during broadcasts of such events, provided: [D] (Revised: 1/15/11 effective 8/1/11)

(a) The funds generated by the advertisements or promotional material are not used for a high school or a two-year college's athletics program;

(b) The institution's athletics department is not involved in the advertisements or promotional material; and

(c) The advertisements or promotional material do not contain athletics information.

13.4.2.1.2 Exception -- College/High School Shared Home Facility. A member institution may advertise and upgrade its home facility even if that facility is also the home facility for prospective student-athletes (e.g., high school football stadium). (Revised: 1/9/06)

13.4.2.1.3 Summer-Camp Advertisements. Advertisements of an institution's summer camp or clinic in such recruiting publications are permissible if placed in a periodical (other than a high school or two-year college game program) that includes a camp directory. [D] (Revised: 1/11/94, 1/9/06)

13.4.2.2 Miscellaneous Promotions. Member institutions and their representatives of athletics interests are prohibited from financing, arranging or using recruiting aids (e.g., newspaper advertisements, bumper stickers, message buttons) designed to publicize the institution's interest in a particular prospective student-athlete. [D] (Revised: 1/13/98)


I honestly don't see one single thing in here that addresses what UW-W is doing.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on April 27, 2018, 02:02:58 PM
Quote from: BigSpotScott on April 26, 2018, 11:40:03 PMTouching on another point, I don't believe the NCAA or the WIAC stand to gain anything from enforcing this rule. UWW is probably the most recognizable D3 college in the country, so the WIAC definitely has nothing to gain as this would only hurt their prestige. On the other hand, the NCAA has much more pressing issues like D1 player recruitment, and making sure I can never buy an new College Football video game. Besides, the ad is obviously ineffective as we see UWW's dynasty coming to an end.

The reason I reintroduced this topic is twofold. One, I love irritating UWW fans who are easily butt-hurt. And two, I really wanted a better explanation than "they must have done their research, so it must be okay" or "they haven't gotten in trouble, so it's clearly legal" (Paraphrasing here). Under that logic, Hillary Clinton's email server was within the law.

Go Warhawks!
I would argue the WIAC would stand to lose a prospective baseball member who might be thinking along the lines of "We would have a hard enough time competing with these guys and now they're cheating!?!? No thanks."
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on April 27, 2018, 02:49:51 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on April 27, 2018, 01:57:11 PMSo you are willing to own up to two of your motives, but probably not the third.  Now, along with UW-W, you've impugned the WIAC and the NCAA. Nice. However, since you are the one attempting to cast suspicion upon an action as a possible violation by UW-W, the burden is on YOU to establish the violation.  Here is the pertinent information from the link you posted.  Please show me the rule UW-W is violating:

13.4.2 Advertisements and Promotions.

13.4.2.1 Recruiting Advertisements. The publication of advertising or promotional material, by or on behalf of a member institution, designed to solicit the enrollment of a prospective student-athlete is not permitted. Accordingly, a member institution may not buy or arrange to have space in game programs or other printed materials published to provide information concerning the athletics participation or evaluation of prospective student-athletes (e.g., recruiting publications and multi-media such as list-serves, or other electronic media) for any purpose whatsoever, including advertisements, a listing of prospective or enrolled student-athletes who will attend the institution and informative materials related to the institution. (Revised: 1/13/98, 1/9/06, 4/29/09, 1/31/18)

13.4.2.1.1 Exception -- Nonathletics Institutional Advertisements. An institution (or a third party acting on behalf of the institution) may publish nonathletics institutional advertisements in nonathletics high school or two-year college publications (e.g., yearbooks, newspapers, music programs, prom programs) and other nonathletics publications or produce nonathletics institutional promotional material (e.g., use of signs, kiosks, distribution of printed materials, television and radio advertisements, electronic advertisements) for use at high school or two-year college athletics events or during broadcasts of such events, provided: [D] (Revised: 1/15/11 effective 8/1/11)

(a) The funds generated by the advertisements or promotional material are not used for a high school or a two-year college's athletics program;

(b) The institution's athletics department is not involved in the advertisements or promotional material; and

(c) The advertisements or promotional material do not contain athletics information.

13.4.2.2 Miscellaneous Promotions. Member institutions and their representatives of athletics interests are prohibited from financing, arranging or using recruiting aids (e.g., newspaper advertisements, bumper stickers, message buttons) designed to publicize the institution's interest in a particular prospective student-athlete. [D] (Revised: 1/13/98)


I honestly don't see one single thing in here that addresses what UW-W is doing.
Really? You don't see anything? Let me underline and bold a few that I see.

1. An institution (Whitewater) is arranging space (a commercial) with information about athletics via electronic media (TV).
2. Whitewater's athletic department is involved.
3. The advertisement does contain information about athletics (they show a whole list of national titles).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 29, 2018, 11:34:12 AM

Meanwhile....

After beating Platteville 14-3 in a run rule shorthened first game the WARHAWKS needed a 5 run 9th inning rally to pull out game two 7-6.  Renz was sharp getting the win in game one.  The senior went 6 innings, surrendering 2 runs (1 earned) on 3 hits while walking 3 and striking out 12.  Mulkuski and Michalski each pitched an inning in relief.  Aeillo had 3 hits and 4 RBI.  Santoro and Aldridge each had a pair of RBI.  The Pioneers took the early 4-2 in game two and added a pair of runs in the eighth.  Pitching cost the Pioneers in the ninth as they loaded the bases with a pair of walks and a hit batter with no outs.  Two runs scored when Fleishman followed with a single and another scored when a third strike got away from the catcher cutting the deficit to a single run.  Doud tied the game with a single and Szubert drove in the winning run with a sacrifice fly.  Heilenbach started and went 6.2 innings allowing 8 hits, 4 earned runs with a walk and 5 Ks.  Gruetzmacher got the win surrendering 2 earned runs on 2 hits and a walk in 2 innings of relief. 

In the rest of the league Point took a pair from Illinois Tech 11-2 while the Titans and Blue Devils split 7-2 Titans, 6-5 Blue Devils. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on April 29, 2018, 02:58:08 PM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on April 27, 2018, 02:49:51 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on April 27, 2018, 01:57:11 PMSo you are willing to own up to two of your motives, but probably not the third.  Now, along with UW-W, you've impugned the WIAC and the NCAA. Nice. However, since you are the one attempting to cast suspicion upon an action as a possible violation by UW-W, the burden is on YOU to establish the violation.  Here is the pertinent information from the link you posted.  Please show me the rule UW-W is violating:

13.4.2 Advertisements and Promotions.

13.4.2.1 Recruiting Advertisements. The publication of advertising or promotional material, by or on behalf of a member institution, designed to solicit the enrollment of a prospective student-athlete is not permitted. Accordingly, a member institution may not buy or arrange to have space in game programs or other printed materials published to provide information concerning the athletics participation or evaluation of prospective student-athletes (e.g., recruiting publications and multi-media such as list-serves, or other electronic media[/color]) for any purpose whatsoever, including advertisements, a listing of prospective or enrolled student-athletes who will attend the institution and informative materials related to the institution. (Revised: 1/13/98, 1/9/06, 4/29/09, 1/31/18)

13.4.2.1.1 Exception -- Nonathletics Institutional Advertisements. An institution (or a third party acting on behalf of the institution) may publish nonathletics institutional advertisements in nonathletics high school or two-year college publications (e.g., yearbooks, newspapers, music programs, prom programs) and other nonathletics publications or produce nonathletics institutional promotional material (e.g., use of signs, kiosks, distribution of printed materials, television and radio advertisements, electronic advertisements) for use at high school or two-year college athletics events or during broadcasts of such events, provided: [D] (Revised: 1/15/11 effective 8/1/11)

(a) The funds generated by the advertisements or promotional material are not used for a high school or a two-year college's athletics program;

(b) The institution's athletics department is not involved in the advertisements or promotional material; and

(c) The advertisements or promotional material do not contain athletics information.

13.4.2.2 Miscellaneous Promotions. Member institutions and their representatives of athletics interests are prohibited from financing, arranging or using recruiting aids (e.g., newspaper advertisements, bumper stickers, message buttons) designed to publicize the institution's interest in a particular prospective student-athlete. [D] (Revised: 1/13/98)


I honestly don't see one single thing in here that addresses what UW-W is doing.
Really? You don't see anything? Let me underline and bold a few that I see.

1. An institution (Whitewater) is arranging space (a commercial) with information about athletics via electronic media (TV).
2. Whitewater's athletic department is involved.
3. The advertisement does contain information about athletics (they show a whole list of national titles).

TD,
The part you bolded and underlined prohibits advertising in a very specific type of publication whose purpose is game programs or other printed materials published to provide information concerning the athletics participation or evaluation of prospective student-athletes .  Fox Sports Wisconsin's purpose is not to provide information concerning the athletics participation of prospective student-athletes.  Basically, this rule is saying "No advertising in game programs, rating publications, or recruiting publications."  Fox Sports is none of those.

I really can't help you beyond pointing out that you are reading the rule wrong. I suspect if either of you (TD or BSS) intended to do anything other than impugn UW-W without being held accountable, you would contact the NCAA, report the violation, and report back to us what you were told.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CtheBigPicture on April 30, 2018, 10:46:20 AM
First post, long-time reader.  The Oshkosh AD reported this to the conference office in the fall, they looked at it, checked with the NCAA and both said there is no violation.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 30, 2018, 11:11:59 AM
Quote from: CtheBigPicture on April 30, 2018, 10:46:20 AM
First post, long-time reader.  The Oshkosh AD reported this to the conference office in the fall, they looked at it, checked with the NCAA and both said there is no violation.
I'm shocked...    ::)

Maybe he should worry about what's going on at his own campus instead?!?!
http://www.wbay.com/content/news/DOJ-files-felony-charges-against-former-UWO-chancellor-vice-chancellor-480951171.html
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 30, 2018, 12:10:43 PM
Quote from: CtheBigPicture on April 30, 2018, 10:46:20 AM
First post, long-time reader.  The Oshkosh AD reported this to the conference office in the fall, they looked at it, checked with the NCAA and both said there is no violation.

Like we wouldn't have taken the time to check it out to begin with.  Way too funny.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 30, 2018, 12:44:59 PM
The WARHAWKS plated an even dozen runs in the second inning and scored a season high 17 while shutting out the Pioneers Sunday.  O'Sullivan started allowing 3 hits, walking 1 and striking out 3 in 3 innings.  Michalski got the win surrendering 3 hits and striking out 1 over the next 3 innings and Sigmund finished the seventh both walking and striking out a single hitter.  Offensively the WARHAWKS had seven extra base hits including 4 doubles, a triple and 2 home runs (Sturdevant & Schrader).  Bryden and Schrader each had 3 RBIs.  Santoro had a pair of RBI and Aldridge, Fleischman, Doud Jensen and Szubert each had 1. 

The WARHAWKS opened game two with a pair of runs in their first at bat but the Pioneers answered with 3 of their own in the bottom half.  A single WARHAWKS run tied it in the third but the Pioneers answered and regained the lead 4-3 in their at bat before the WARHAWKS regain the lead for good with two in the fourth and stretched it with a run in the fifth as well as 2 in both the sixth and eighth innings making it 10-4.  The Pioneers cut it to 10-5 with one in the eighth and made it interesting with a 3 run home run in the ninth and by bringing stranding a pair to end the game.  Kaska improved to 7-1 on the season allowing 7 hits, 4 runs (2 earned) with a walk and 7 strikeouts over 7 innings.  Muir allowed a run (earned) on 1 hit walked and struck out 1 batter in 1 inning.  Makuski struggled allowing 3 hits, 3 runs (2 earned) in .1 inning.  Grutezmacher earned his 4th save of the season pitching the final .2 inning.  Aldridge had 3 RBIs while both Bryden and Doud had a pair.  Aiello also added a single RBI.

Around the league:

Point takes a pair from Illinois Tech 3-0, 3-1.  Oshkosh beats Stout twice 9-1, 10-5
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 30, 2018, 06:49:02 PM


Out of conference:

Illinois Tech (9-7):  Beloit (W 4-3), Mass. College of Liberal Arts (L 4-5, W 7-5),  Olivet (L 1-6), Cazenovia (W 5-2). Fitchburg State (W 4-0, W 1-0), Keene State (L 6-14),  Milwaukee School of Engineering (W 7-0, L 1-5), Wisconsin Lutheran (w 11-7, W 9-3), Carthage (L 3-13, L 0-15), Chicago (L 13-18), Arora (W 5-3)

La Crosse: (9-5):  St Thomas (W 2-0), Southern Maine (W 12-11), Spalding (L 2-4), College of New Jersey (L 2-3), SUNY Brockport (W 9-7), RIT (W 5-0), lllinois Wesleyan (W 18-5), Benedictine (L 4-5), Webster (W 4-2), Concordia - Chicago (L 3-8, L 8-14), St Scholastica (W 6-4, W 14-11), St Thomas (W 6-2)

Oshkosh (13-2): Wabash (L 4-5), Transylvania (W 9-1, L 10-14), St Thomas (W 4-3, W 6-3), Ripon (W 7-1), St Scholastica (W 4-2), Lawrence (W 15-1), Washington & Jefferson (W 11-1), Grinnell (W 8-0,), Benedictine (W 13-3), Thomas (W 20-0), Wis Lutheran (W 11-2), Milwaukee School of Engineering (W 12-2, W 10-7)

Platteville (6-10): Aurora (L 1-3), Olivet (L 6-7), Spalding (L 1-11), Anderson (L 5-9), Spalding (L 2-12), DePauw (W 15-13), Fonbonne (L 3-13, L 3-5), Rose Hulman (L 3-20), Chicago (L 6-7), Rose Hulman (W 8-6), Belhaven (L 5-10, W 10-8, W 15-12), Millsaps (W 8-7), Edgewood (W 6-4)

Stevens Point (7-3): St Olaf (W 3-1, W 9-6), Western New England (L 1-2), Washington & Jefferson (L 4-5, W 6-0), Keuka (W 20-0), St Thomas (L 1-6, W 5-2), Colby (W 4-2), Colby (W 10-5)

Stout (3-8): Augsburg (L 0-3, L 5-8), Hamline (L 2-9, W 6-2), Edgewood (W 15-9), St Michael's (L 2-3, L 2-4), North Park (L 7-16), Lakeland (W 9-5), Augustana (L 3-5), SUNY-Plattsburg (L 7-10)

WARHAWKS (9-2): Babson (W 5-3), Hope (W 11-1), Washington & Jefferson (W 8-1), Lawrence (W 9-4), Grinnell (W 16-4), St Olaf (L 3-6), St Thomas (L 0-3), Ripon (W 15-3, W 11-5), St Scholastica (W 13-1)

Through 4/30
Overall: 56-37 .602


The WARHAWKS defeated St Scholastica 13-1.  Jones started and got the win allowing 1 hit and striking out 10 in 5 innings.  Gruetzmacher finished the final two innings striking out a pair and surrendering 3 hits.  Doud had a huge game belting 2 home runs and driving in 6.  Krause also homered good for a pair of RBIs.  Bryden, Schrader, Aldridge and Fleischman each had an RBI.








Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 02, 2018, 09:51:06 AM



Twelve WARHAWKS hitters pounded out a season high 22 hits and tied the fourth highest run output in program history in defeating St Norbert 22-8.  It was the sixth time in the last seven games the WARHAWKS have scored in double figures.  O'Sullivan started and got the win allowing 3 hits, 3 runs (2 ER) with 3 walks and 7 strikeouts bringing his season total to 28 in 20.2 innings pitched.  Muir relieved him giving up 5 runs (2 ER) on 4 hits and a walk with 4 strikeouts in 1.2 innings before Michalski secured the final out.  Doud continued his RBI run with 7 giving him 13 in the past two games.  Bryden had 4 hits and 3 RBI.  Fleischman also had 3 RBI.  Cho, Wary, Simpson, Feldner, Sturdevant and Schneider all had RBI.  Doud, Fleischman and Cho hit home runs. 

Elsewhere....

Point split with Concordia (WI) losing the first game 3-2 before winning the second 9-3.
La Crosse kept pace by sweeping Stout 8-5, 4-2









Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 06, 2018, 10:36:46 AM
The WARHAWKS maintained a two game lead with a 3-1 weekend against Stevens Point.  Renz was sharp picking up his fifth win, 6-0, allowing 5 hits and striking out 10 in 5 shutout innings.  O'Sullivan finished the final 2 innings allowing a single hit and striking out 3.  Schrader (2 rbi), Aldridge and Aiello all hit homeruns as the team had 7 extra base hits.   Trailing 9-3 in the 7th the WARHAWKS rallied to 9-8 but the Pointers added 3 insurance runs in the ninth and won game two 12-8.  Heilenbach started but struggled allowing 10 hits and 9 runs (8 earned), walking and striking out 3 in 6 innings.  Makuski, Sigmund and Grutzmacher relieved allowing 3 earned runs in the final 3 innings.  Aldridge and Aiello each hit their second home run of the day.  Schrader had 4 hits and a pair of rbi.  Doud also homered and drove in a pair.  Bryden hit his second triple of the weekend and had an rbi.

Game three was run rule shortened.  Jones pitched out of some jams picking up his sixth win by pitching 6 innings, allowing 7 hits, 3 runs (earned) with 4 walks and 13 strikeouts.  Muir pitched a scoreless seventh allowing a hit and a walk while striking out 2.  Aldridge hit his third home run of the weekend and had a pair of rbi.  Aiello drove in 3 runs Santoro a pair.  Bryden, Schrader, Sturdevant, Szubert and Krause all drove in a run.  Kaska got his team leading 8th win striking out 11 and allowing just three hits and a single earned run in 8 innings.  O'Sullivan finished the game striking out 1 in a scoreless inning.  Bryden led the way with 4 hits including a home run and drove in 4.  Schrader had a air of rbi while Aldridge, Santoro and Aiello all drove in runs.

Around the league...
Oshkosh took 3 of 4 from La Crosse losing game one 9-8 before winning the final three by 4-3, 9-4 and 15-4 scores.
Platteville and Illinois Tech split with Tech winning game one 14-4 and the Pioneers prevailing in game two 17-5.  They play another pair today.

Point and Oshkosh meet for a twin bill during the week and then finish with Ill Tech.  The WARHAWKS will play an out of conference game (Concordia-Wi) during week and finish with four games in La Crosse. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 07, 2018, 10:44:14 AM
Out of conference:

Illinois Tech (9-7):  Beloit (W 4-3), Mass. College of Liberal Arts (L 4-5, W 7-5),  Olivet (L 1-6), Cazenovia (W 5-2). Fitchburg State (W 4-0, W 1-0), Keene State (L 6-14),  Milwaukee School of Engineering (W 7-0, L 1-5), Wisconsin Lutheran (w 11-7, W 9-3), Carthage (L 3-13, L 0-15), Chicago (L 13-18), Arora (W 5-3)

La Crosse: (9-5):  St Thomas (W 2-0), Southern Maine (W 12-11), Spalding (L 2-4), College of New Jersey (L 2-3), SUNY Brockport (W 9-7), RIT (W 5-0), lllinois Wesleyan (W 18-5), Benedictine (L 4-5), Webster (W 4-2), Concordia - Chicago (L 3-8, L 8-14), St Scholastica (W 6-4, W 14-11), St Thomas (W 6-2)

Oshkosh (13-2): Wabash (L 4-5), Transylvania (W 9-1, L 10-14), St Thomas (W 4-3, W 6-3), Ripon (W 7-1), St Scholastica (W 4-2), Lawrence (W 15-1), Washington & Jefferson (W 11-1), Grinnell (W 8-0,), Benedictine (W 13-3), Thomas (W 20-0), Wis Lutheran (W 11-2), Milwaukee School of Engineering (W 12-2, W 10-7)

Platteville (6-10): Aurora (L 1-3), Olivet (L 6-7), Spalding (L 1-11), Anderson (L 5-9), Spalding (L 2-12), DePauw (W 15-13), Fonbonne (L 3-13, L 3-5), Rose Hulman (L 3-20), Chicago (L 6-7), Rose Hulman (W 8-6), Belhaven (L 5-10, W 10-8, W 15-12), Millsaps (W 8-7), Edgewood (W 6-4)

Stevens Point (8-4): St Olaf (W 3-1, W 9-6), Western New England (L 1-2), Washington & Jefferson (L 4-5, W 6-0), Keuka (W 20-0), St Thomas (L 1-6, W 5-2), Colby (W 4-2), Colby (W 10-5), Concordia (L 2-3, W 9-3)

Stout (3-10): Augsburg (L 0-3, L 5-8), Hamline (L 2-9, W 6-2), Edgewood (W 15-9), St Michael's (L 2-3, L 2-4), North Park (L 7-16), Lakeland (W 9-5), Augustana (L 3-5), SUNY-Plattsburg (L 7-10), Bethel (L 5-7, L 3-12)

WARHAWKS (10-2): Babson (W 5-3), Hope (W 11-1), Washington & Jefferson (W 8-1), Lawrence (W 9-4), Grinnell (W 16-4), St Olaf (L 3-6), St Thomas (L 0-3), Ripon (W 15-3, W 11-5), St Scholastica (W 13-1), St Norbert (W 22-8)

Through 4/07
Overall: 58-40 .591











Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on May 07, 2018, 04:47:45 PM
Now that it looks likely UWSP won't be making a regionals again,  question is, how long is Point going to continue to accept mediocrity under Jirschele??  He's continued to put average WIAC teams on the field each year at the helm.  He's getting out recruited by Whitewater, Oshkosh and La Crosse.  Most coaches get 3 years to get their program going, he's taken it from a perennial contender to barely a .500 WIAC team.

Next year doesn't look any better as UWSP loses almost all of their pitching.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 07, 2018, 04:50:49 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on May 07, 2018, 04:47:45 PM
Now that it looks likely UWSP won't be making a regionals again,  question is, how long is Point going to continue to accept mediocrity under Jirschele??  He's continued to put average WIAC teams on the field each year at the helm.  He's getting out recruited by Whitewater, Oshkosh and La Crosse.  Most coaches get 3 years to get their program going, he's taken it from a perennial contender to barely a .500 WIAC team.
15-8, and 15-9 at worst is barely .500 these days?

Is this part of the new Common Core math?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on May 07, 2018, 04:52:18 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 07, 2018, 04:50:49 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on May 07, 2018, 04:47:45 PM
Now that it looks likely UWSP won't be making a regionals again,  question is, how long is Point going to continue to accept mediocrity under Jirschele??  He's continued to put average WIAC teams on the field each year at the helm.  He's getting out recruited by Whitewater, Oshkosh and La Crosse.  Most coaches get 3 years to get their program going, he's taken it from a perennial contender to barely a .500 WIAC team.
15-8, and 15-9 at worst is barely .500 these days?

Is this part of the new Common Core math?

43-40 before this season, 21-19 in conference....so yes....barely over .500.  Is that too hard to comprehend??
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on May 07, 2018, 04:56:47 PM
I know it's hard for you to admit that Oshkosh's own golden child isn't getting it done at UWSP...but he isn't. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 07, 2018, 05:04:39 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on May 07, 2018, 04:56:47 PM
I know it's hard for you to admit that Oshkosh's own golden child isn't getting it done at UWSP...but he isn't.
Golden Child?

He wouldn't even crack my Top 10....  But hey, just keep beating that drum if that's what works for you!!!  ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on May 07, 2018, 05:12:02 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 07, 2018, 05:04:39 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on May 07, 2018, 04:56:47 PM
I know it's hard for you to admit that Oshkosh's own golden child isn't getting it done at UWSP...but he isn't.
Golden Child?

He wouldn't even crack my Top 10....  But hey, just keep beating that drum if that's what works for you!!!  ::)

I don't care where he ranks on your list.  Anytime anything is said negatively about him, you're the first to jump to defend him. 

You want to continue the barely a .500 WIAC team under Jirschele argument after you failed to look it up??
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 07, 2018, 05:18:16 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on May 07, 2018, 04:52:18 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 07, 2018, 04:50:49 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on May 07, 2018, 04:47:45 PM
Now that it looks likely UWSP won't be making a regionals again,  question is, how long is Point going to continue to accept mediocrity under Jirschele??  He's continued to put average WIAC teams on the field each year at the helm.  He's getting out recruited by Whitewater, Oshkosh and La Crosse.  Most coaches get 3 years to get their program going, he's taken it from a perennial contender to barely a .500 WIAC team.
15-8, and 15-9 at worst is barely .500 these days?

Is this part of the new Common Core math?

43-40 before this season, 21-19 in conference....so yes....barely over .500.  Is that too hard to comprehend??
So this years's game don't count?

UWSP will be 36-28 in WIAC play over the last three years, which would be a .562 winning percentage

Over the same time period, UWO is 39-25 (assuming they win their final five games this season,)  which would be a .609 winning percentage.

Guess you would say the same about Tomasiewicz then too?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on May 07, 2018, 05:36:13 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 07, 2018, 05:18:16 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on May 07, 2018, 04:52:18 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 07, 2018, 04:50:49 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on May 07, 2018, 04:47:45 PM
Now that it looks likely UWSP won't be making a regionals again,  question is, how long is Point going to continue to accept mediocrity under Jirschele??  He's continued to put average WIAC teams on the field each year at the helm.  He's getting out recruited by Whitewater, Oshkosh and La Crosse.  Most coaches get 3 years to get their program going, he's taken it from a perennial contender to barely a .500 WIAC team.
15-8, and 15-9 at worst is barely .500 these days?

Is this part of the new Common Core math?

43-40 before this season, 21-19 in conference....so yes....barely over .500.  Is that too hard to comprehend??
So this years's game don't count?

UWSP will be 36-28 in WIAC play over the last three years, which would be a .562 winning percentage

Over the same time period, UWO is 39-25 (assuming they win their final five games this season,)  which would be a .609 winning percentage.

Guess you would say the same about Tomasiewicz then too?

No, I wouldn't say the same for Tomasiewicz.  Oshkosh was struggling before he took over and he's improved the program.  UWSP was going to Regionals every year, had just played in the College World Series along with winning Conference Tournaments before Jirschele took over the program.  He hasn't improved it, he hasn't maintained it.  He's made it worse. 

And yes, this years' games count.  You figured it out yourself, .562 winning percentage in conference.  That's horrible from where the program was, barely over .500.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on May 07, 2018, 07:34:50 PM
And Oshkosh takes two from Point.

Assuming Oshkosh wins all four against IIT, that makes the Whitewater/Lacrosse series much more interesting. AQ or not, no team is saying that winning the conference doesn't matter to them.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigSpotScott on May 07, 2018, 10:20:08 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on May 07, 2018, 07:34:50 PM
And Oshkosh takes two from Point.

Assuming Oshkosh wins all four against IIT, that makes the Whitewater/Lacrosse series much more interesting. AQ or not, no team is saying that winning the conference doesn't matter to them.

I doubt it will happen, but if UWO wins out and UWW splits with UWL, who wins the tie-breaker?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 07, 2018, 11:32:25 PM
Quote from: BigSpotScott on May 07, 2018, 10:20:08 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on May 07, 2018, 07:34:50 PM
And Oshkosh takes two from Point.

Assuming Oshkosh wins all four against IIT, that makes the Whitewater/Lacrosse series much more interesting. AQ or not, no team is saying that winning the conference doesn't matter to them.

I doubt it will happen, but if UWO wins out and UWW splits with UWL, who wins the tie-breaker?
Since there isn't a conference tournament or Pool A bid, the tiebreaker really has little value this year....

In years past, UWO would win tiebreaker by virtue of going 3-1 against La Crosse while Whitewater would have gone 2-2.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 08, 2018, 12:43:48 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 07, 2018, 11:32:25 PM
Quote from: BigSpotScott on May 07, 2018, 10:20:08 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on May 07, 2018, 07:34:50 PM
And Oshkosh takes two from Point.

Assuming Oshkosh wins all four against IIT, that makes the Whitewater/Lacrosse series much more interesting. AQ or not, no team is saying that winning the conference doesn't matter to them.

I doubt it will happen, but if UWO wins out and UWW splits with UWL, who wins the tie-breaker?
Since there isn't a conference tournament or Pool A bid, the tiebreaker really has little value this year....

In years past, UWO would win tiebreaker by virtue of going 3-1 against La Crosse while Whitewater would have gone 2-2.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :o :o ::) ::)

I have taken a poll of the senior, most respected posters on these boards, and we agree that UWO and UWW need to settle this by having a best of 7 series.

:)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2018, 09:34:22 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 07, 2018, 11:32:25 PM
Quote from: BigSpotScott on May 07, 2018, 10:20:08 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on May 07, 2018, 07:34:50 PM
And Oshkosh takes two from Point.

Assuming Oshkosh wins all four against IIT, that makes the Whitewater/Lacrosse series much more interesting. AQ or not, no team is saying that winning the conference doesn't matter to them.

I doubt it will happen, but if UWO wins out and UWW splits with UWL, who wins the tie-breaker?
Since there isn't a conference tournament or Pool A bid, the tiebreaker really has little value this year....

In years past, UWO would win tiebreaker by virtue of going 3-1 against La Crosse while Whitewater would have gone 2-2.


Thanks, I was wondering this last night and planned on looking into it today.  But you've saved me the time.  Plus k for you.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2018, 03:04:53 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on May 07, 2018, 05:36:13 PM
No, I wouldn't say the same for Tomasiewicz.  Oshkosh was struggling before he took over and he's improved the program.  UWSP was going to Regionals every year, had just played in the College World Series along with winning Conference Tournaments before Jirschele took over the program.  He hasn't improved it, he hasn't maintained it.  He's made it worse. 

And yes, this years' games count.  You figured it out yourself, .562 winning percentage in conference.  That's horrible from where the program was, barely over .500.
You obviously have don't care for Jirschele....  We get it!!!  I'm not sure if you think one of your buddies got a "raw" deal or what the deal is, and to be honest I don't care. 

Anyway, you said practically the same thing last year and before yesterday, you had made a grand total of ONE post in regards to Stevens Point's 2017-18 baseball season (how ironic it was after they blew a lead?  ::) )  You probably hated it when they got off to a good start and were 18-5 and ranked #25 this year!!!  Now as they struggle at the end of the season you make sure to return and put Jirschele and the Pointers on blast.  That tells me all I need to know, so consider this my last comment on the topic.

I actually think Stevens Point had the pitching (which if I remember correctly was a big concern for you at the end of last year) to compete at the Regional level.  Mulzer turned out being exactly what the Pointers were probably hoping for when he transferred.  With that said however the trio of Erickson/Mulzer/B. Miller couldn't make up for the anemic offense of the Pointers.

Lastly, whether Point/La Crosse/Whitewater/etc.. wins or loses, it really doesn't bother me....  I continue to follow the league just like I have for the last 25 years, but to be honest, I have zero rooting interest in regards to who wins the league (as has been the case for some time now.)  I will continue to follow the WIAC teams at Regionals and hope they continue the long tradition of success at the National level. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on May 08, 2018, 04:26:52 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 08, 2018, 03:04:53 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on May 07, 2018, 05:36:13 PM
No, I wouldn't say the same for Tomasiewicz.  Oshkosh was struggling before he took over and he's improved the program.  UWSP was going to Regionals every year, had just played in the College World Series along with winning Conference Tournaments before Jirschele took over the program.  He hasn't improved it, he hasn't maintained it.  He's made it worse. 

And yes, this years' games count.  You figured it out yourself, .562 winning percentage in conference.  That's horrible from where the program was, barely over .500.
You obviously have don't care for Jirschele....  We get it!!!  I'm not sure if you think one of your buddies got a "raw" deal or what the deal is, and to be honest I don't care. 

Anyway, you said practically the same thing last year and before yesterday, you had made a grand total of ONE post in regards to Stevens Point's 2017-18 baseball season (how ironic it was after they blew a lead?  ::) )  You probably hated it when they got off to a good start and were 18-5 and ranked #25 this year!!!  Now as they struggle at the end of the season you make sure to return and put Jirschele and the Pointers on blast.  That tells me all I need to know, so consider this my last comment on the topic.

I actually think Stevens Point had the pitching (which if I remember correctly was a big concern for you at the end of last year) to compete at the Regional level.  Mulzer turned out being exactly what the Pointers were probably hoping for when he transferred.  With that said however the trio of Erickson/Mulzer/B. Miller couldn't make up for the anemic offense of the Pointers.

Lastly, whether Point/La Crosse/Whitewater/etc.. wins or loses, it really doesn't bother me....  I continue to follow the league just like I have for the last 25 years, but to be honest, I have zero rooting interest in regards to who wins the league (as has been the case for some time now.)  I will continue to follow the WIAC teams at Regionals and hope they continue the long tradition of success at the National level.

Could you explain to me why it matters how many posts I make on the WIAC baseball page??  It's irrelevant.

I follow UWSP baseball, I made it to their games at US Bank against St Olaf.  I follow their games online while I'm at work and at home.  I have nothing against Jirschele personally, he has done nothing to me nor to anyone I know.  What I have against Jirschele is he isn't winning enough games, plain and simple.  He is getting out recruited by more than half the conference which is alarming for the future of the program as well.

I certainly didn't hate that they were 18-5, in the regional rankings and ranked in the top 25.  I'll say I was still skeptical whether they could keep that up but I was happy to see it.  My skepticism turned out to be true.

I'll agree they had the pitching to compete at a regional.  Mulzer certainly impressed this year compared to last year and Erickson/Miller can compete against any D3 duo.  With those 3, they still aren't going anywhere in the postseason and next year none of them return.  The program is going downhill, pretty hard to argue that.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2018, 09:49:24 AM
Not sure if anyone else noticed, but the WIAC had a pitcher throw nine no-hit innings yesterday afternoon.

Stout's Brad Rindfleisch faced one batter over the minimum as he threw nine innings of no-hit relief in Stout's 3-2 17-inning loss to La Crosse.  Rindfleisch entered the game in the Top of the 6th inning and held La Crosse to just one walk while striking out three over the next nine innings.  Luckily for La Crosse, Caleb Willems nearly matched Rindfleisch as threw nine shutout innings in relief to earn the victory after the Eagles scored a run in the Top of the 17th inning.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 09, 2018, 10:08:42 AM
Out of conference:

Illinois Tech (9-7):  Beloit (W 4-3), Mass. College of Liberal Arts (L 4-5, W 7-5),  Olivet (L 1-6), Cazenovia (W 5-2). Fitchburg State (W 4-0, W 1-0), Keene State (L 6-14),  Milwaukee School of Engineering (W 7-0, L 1-5), Wisconsin Lutheran (w 11-7, W 9-3), Carthage (L 3-13, L 0-15), Chicago (L 13-18), Arora (W 5-3)

La Crosse: (9-5):  St Thomas (W 2-0), Southern Maine (W 12-11), Spalding (L 2-4), College of New Jersey (L 2-3), SUNY Brockport (W 9-7), RIT (W 5-0), lllinois Wesleyan (W 18-5), Benedictine (L 4-5), Webster (W 4-2), Concordia - Chicago (L 3-8, L 8-14), St Scholastica (W 6-4, W 14-11), St Thomas (W 6-2)

Oshkosh (13-2): Wabash (L 4-5), Transylvania (W 9-1, L 10-14), St Thomas (W 4-3, W 6-3), Ripon (W 7-1), St Scholastica (W 4-2), Lawrence (W 15-1), Washington & Jefferson (W 11-1), Grinnell (W 8-0,), Benedictine (W 13-3), Thomas (W 20-0), Wis Lutheran (W 11-2), Milwaukee School of Engineering (W 12-2, W 10-7)

Platteville (6-10): Aurora (L 1-3), Olivet (L 6-7), Spalding (L 1-11), Anderson (L 5-9), Spalding (L 2-12), DePauw (W 15-13), Fonbonne (L 3-13, L 3-5), Rose Hulman (L 3-20), Chicago (L 6-7), Rose Hulman (W 8-6), Belhaven (L 5-10, W 10-8, W 15-12), Millsaps (W 8-7), Edgewood (W 6-4)

Stevens Point (8-4): St Olaf (W 3-1, W 9-6), Western New England (L 1-2), Washington & Jefferson (L 4-5, W 6-0), Keuka (W 20-0), St Thomas (L 1-6, W 5-2), Colby (W 4-2), Colby (W 10-5), Concordia (L 2-3, W 9-3)

Stout (3-10): Augsburg (L 0-3, L 5-8), Hamline (L 2-9, W 6-2), Edgewood (W 15-9), St Michael's (L 2-3, L 2-4), North Park (L 7-16), Lakeland (W 9-5), Augustana (L 3-5), SUNY-Plattsburg (L 7-10), Bethel (L 5-7, L 3-12)

WARHAWKS (11-2): Babson (W 5-3), Hope (W 11-1), Washington & Jefferson (W 8-1), Lawrence (W 9-4), Grinnell (W 16-4), St Olaf (L 3-6), St Thomas (L 0-3), Ripon (W 15-3, W 11-5), St Scholastica (W 13-1), St Norbert (W 22-8), Concordia-Wi (W 7-0)

Through 4/08
Overall: 59-40 .595


O'Sullivan and Muir, a pair of freshman, combined to strike out 11 as the WARHAWKS defeated Concordia-Wi 7-0.  O'Sullivan picked up his third win allowing 3 hits in the first five innings with 5 strikeouts and Muir struck out 6 in 3 hitless innings in relief.  Gruetzmacher finished the final inning.  Offensively Doud led the way with 3 hits and 3 RBI.  Wary had a pair of hits and RBI.  Schrader and Aldridge, who scored 3 times, each drove in a run. 


It looks like it all comes down to this weekend.  I don't see Oshkosh losing to Illinois Tech so the WARHAWKS will most likely need to take at least 3 games in La Crosse to gain the outright claim to the conference championship. 












Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on May 09, 2018, 01:36:25 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 09, 2018, 09:49:24 AM
Not sure if anyone else noticed, but the WIAC had a pitcher throw nine no-hit innings yesterday afternoon.

Stout's Brad Rindfleisch faced one batter over the minimum as he threw nine innings of no-hit relief in Stout's 3-2 17-inning loss to La Crosse.  Rindfleisch entered the game in the Top of the 6th inning and held La Crosse to just one walk while striking out three over the next nine innings.  Luckily for La Crosse, Caleb Willems nearly matched Rindfleisch as threw nine shutout innings in relief to earn the victory after the Eagles scored a run in the Top of the 17th inning.

Then they play a 5 inning game.  12 innings difference from game one to game two
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2018, 04:09:03 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on May 09, 2018, 01:36:25 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 09, 2018, 09:49:24 AM
Not sure if anyone else noticed, but the WIAC had a pitcher throw nine no-hit innings yesterday afternoon.

Stout's Brad Rindfleisch faced one batter over the minimum as he threw nine innings of no-hit relief in Stout's 3-2 17-inning loss to La Crosse.  Rindfleisch entered the game in the Top of the 6th inning and held La Crosse to just one walk while striking out three over the next nine innings.  Luckily for La Crosse, Caleb Willems nearly matched Rindfleisch as threw nine shutout innings in relief to earn the victory after the Eagles scored a run in the Top of the 17th inning.
Then they play a 5 inning game.  12 innings difference from game one to game two
I know there was rain in that part of the state yesterday, so guessing the weather played a part in the shortened game...

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Big win in game 1 in the 17th inning.

Fought some tough weather conditions to take game 2.

Heck of a day of baseball by our guys! Total team wins!

#eagles
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigSpotScott on May 10, 2018, 12:23:36 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 09, 2018, 10:08:42 AM
Out of conference:

Illinois Tech (9-7):  Beloit (W 4-3), Mass. College of Liberal Arts (L 4-5, W 7-5),  Olivet (L 1-6), Cazenovia (W 5-2). Fitchburg State (W 4-0, W 1-0), Keene State (L 6-14),  Milwaukee School of Engineering (W 7-0, L 1-5), Wisconsin Lutheran (w 11-7, W 9-3), Carthage (L 3-13, L 0-15), Chicago (L 13-18), Arora (W 5-3)

La Crosse: (9-5):  St Thomas (W 2-0), Southern Maine (W 12-11), Spalding (L 2-4), College of New Jersey (L 2-3), SUNY Brockport (W 9-7), RIT (W 5-0), lllinois Wesleyan (W 18-5), Benedictine (L 4-5), Webster (W 4-2), Concordia - Chicago (L 3-8, L 8-14), St Scholastica (W 6-4, W 14-11), St Thomas (W 6-2)

Oshkosh (13-2): Wabash (L 4-5), Transylvania (W 9-1, L 10-14), St Thomas (W 4-3, W 6-3), Ripon (W 7-1), St Scholastica (W 4-2), Lawrence (W 15-1), Washington & Jefferson (W 11-1), Grinnell (W 8-0,), Benedictine (W 13-3), Thomas (W 20-0), Wis Lutheran (W 11-2), Milwaukee School of Engineering (W 12-2, W 10-7)

Platteville (6-10): Aurora (L 1-3), Olivet (L 6-7), Spalding (L 1-11), Anderson (L 5-9), Spalding (L 2-12), DePauw (W 15-13), Fonbonne (L 3-13, L 3-5), Rose Hulman (L 3-20), Chicago (L 6-7), Rose Hulman (W 8-6), Belhaven (L 5-10, W 10-8, W 15-12), Millsaps (W 8-7), Edgewood (W 6-4)

Stevens Point (8-4): St Olaf (W 3-1, W 9-6), Western New England (L 1-2), Washington & Jefferson (L 4-5, W 6-0), Keuka (W 20-0), St Thomas (L 1-6, W 5-2), Colby (W 4-2), Colby (W 10-5), Concordia (L 2-3, W 9-3)

Stout (3-10): Augsburg (L 0-3, L 5-8), Hamline (L 2-9, W 6-2), Edgewood (W 15-9), St Michael's (L 2-3, L 2-4), North Park (L 7-16), Lakeland (W 9-5), Augustana (L 3-5), SUNY-Plattsburg (L 7-10), Bethel (L 5-7, L 3-12)

WARHAWKS (11-2): Babson (W 5-3), Hope (W 11-1), Washington & Jefferson (W 8-1), Lawrence (W 9-4), Grinnell (W 16-4), St Olaf (L 3-6), St Thomas (L 0-3), Ripon (W 15-3, W 11-5), St Scholastica (W 13-1), St Norbert (W 22-8), Concordia-Wi (W 7-0)

Through 4/08
Overall: 59-40 .595


O'Sullivan and Muir, a pair of freshman, combined to strike out 11 as the WARHAWKS defeated Concordia-Wi 7-0.  O'Sullivan picked up his third win allowing 3 hits in the first five innings with 5 strikeouts and Muir struck out 6 in 3 hitless innings in relief.  Gruetzmacher finished the final inning.  Offensively Doud led the way with 3 hits and 3 RBI.  Wary had a pair of hits and RBI.  Schrader and Aldridge, who scored 3 times, each drove in a run. 


It looks like it all comes down to this weekend.  I don't see Oshkosh losing to Illinois Tech so the WARHAWKS will most likely need to take at least 3 games in La Crosse to gain the outright claim to the conference championship.

Is anyone else surprised by IIT's performance this year? I figured they win 2 conference games max. I know they are leaving the conference, but for a team that wasn't even NCAA last year, they seem to be going decent - especially pitching which is where I'd expect a new WIAC team to struggle. Interested in thoughts.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 10, 2018, 01:26:31 PM
They are going to a good baseball team going to a good conference. They should be competitive. I also imagine baseball to be a sport for "engineers". Baseball has a mechanically beautiful nature about it.  There have been industrial engineers and management scientists who have commented that the ability to read a baseball scorebook  or a boxscore gave American industry a jumpstart against Europe in the early 20th century. 

(Remember when Rice and Stanford faced off in Omaha?)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 10, 2018, 01:32:26 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 10, 2018, 01:26:31 PM
They are going to a good baseball team going to a good conference. They should be competitive. I also imagine baseball to be a sport for "engineers". Baseball has a mechanically beautiful nature about it.  There have been industrial engineers and management scientists who have commented that the ability to read a baseball scorebook  or a boxscore gave American industry a jumpstart against Europe in the early 20th century. 

(Remember when Rice and Stanford faced off in Omaha?)

They will be a contender in the NAAC right away. Maybe not a title contender, but in the mix.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on May 10, 2018, 09:11:36 PM
Quote from: BigSpotScott on May 10, 2018, 12:23:36 PM

Is anyone else surprised by IIT's performance this year? I figured they win 2 conference games max. I know they are leaving the conference, but for a team that wasn't even NCAA last year, they seem to be going decent - especially pitching which is where I'd expect a new WIAC team to struggle. Interested in thoughts.

Platteville and Stout have been the WIAC bottom two since Superior left.  They usually win between 4 and 6 games each.  This year they were worse than usual going a combined 3-29 in the WIAC (if you remove their results against IT).

IT was 4-4 against Platteville and Stout.  They are 1-11 vs UW-W, LaCrosse, and Stevens Point, with four games remaining against UW-0. So far, I think the only real surprise was their win against LaCrosse.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 10, 2018, 09:47:11 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on May 10, 2018, 09:11:36 PM
Quote from: BigSpotScott on May 10, 2018, 12:23:36 PM

Is anyone else surprised by IIT's performance this year? I figured they win 2 conference games max. I know they are leaving the conference, but for a team that wasn't even NCAA last year, they seem to be going decent - especially pitching which is where I'd expect a new WIAC team to struggle. Interested in thoughts.

Platteville and Stout have been the WIAC bottom two since Superior left.  They usually win between 4 and 6 games each.  This year they were worse than usual going a combined 3-29 in the WIAC (if you remove their results against IT).

IT was 4-4 against Platteville and Stout.  They are 1-11 vs UW-W, LaCrosse, and Stevens Point, with four games remaining against UW-0. So far, I think the only real surprise was their win against LaCrosse.
Respectfully, UW W,LC & SP would dominate 30 of the 40 conferences in D-3.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on May 10, 2018, 11:20:43 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 10, 2018, 09:47:11 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on May 10, 2018, 09:11:36 PM
Quote from: BigSpotScott on May 10, 2018, 12:23:36 PM

Is anyone else surprised by IIT's performance this year? I figured they win 2 conference games max. I know they are leaving the conference, but for a team that wasn't even NCAA last year, they seem to be going decent - especially pitching which is where I'd expect a new WIAC team to struggle. Interested in thoughts.

Platteville and Stout have been the WIAC bottom two since Superior left.  They usually win between 4 and 6 games each.  This year they were worse than usual going a combined 3-29 in the WIAC (if you remove their results against IT).

IT was 4-4 against Platteville and Stout.  They are 1-11 vs UW-W, LaCrosse, and Stevens Point, with four games remaining against UW-0. So far, I think the only real surprise was their win against LaCrosse.
Respectfully, UW W,LC & SP would dominate 30 of the 40 conferences in D-3.
Agreed. I guess that's why I don't think the results are particularly surprising. I wasn't trying to dis IT. From what I had heard about the IT program, splitting with the 2018 versions of Platteville and Stout and struggling against the rest is pretty much what I would have expected. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigSpotScott on May 11, 2018, 01:20:35 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on May 10, 2018, 11:20:43 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 10, 2018, 09:47:11 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on May 10, 2018, 09:11:36 PM
Quote from: BigSpotScott on May 10, 2018, 12:23:36 PM

Is anyone else surprised by IIT's performance this year? I figured they win 2 conference games max. I know they are leaving the conference, but for a team that wasn't even NCAA last year, they seem to be going decent - especially pitching which is where I'd expect a new WIAC team to struggle. Interested in thoughts.
Good point on where their wins are coming from. I'm still impressed by their pitching though.
Platteville and Stout have been the WIAC bottom two since Superior left.  They usually win between 4 and 6 games each.  This year they were worse than usual going a combined 3-29 in the WIAC (if you remove their results against IT).

IT was 4-4 against Platteville and Stout.  They are 1-11 vs UW-W, LaCrosse, and Stevens Point, with four games remaining against UW-0. So far, I think the only real surprise was their win against LaCrosse.
Respectfully, UW W,LC & SP would dominate 30 of the 40 conferences in D-3.
Agreed. I guess that's why I don't think the results are particularly surprising. I wasn't trying to dis IT. From what I had heard about the IT program, splitting with the 2018 versions of Platteville and Stout and struggling against the rest is pretty much what I would have expected.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on May 12, 2018, 09:17:08 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on May 10, 2018, 09:11:36 PM
Quote from: BigSpotScott on May 10, 2018, 12:23:36 PM

Is anyone else surprised by IIT's performance this year? I figured they win 2 conference games max. I know they are leaving the conference, but for a team that wasn't even NCAA last year, they seem to be going decent - especially pitching which is where I'd expect a new WIAC team to struggle. Interested in thoughts.

Platteville and Stout have been the WIAC bottom two since Superior left.  They usually win between 4 and 6 games each.  This year they were worse than usual going a combined 3-29 in the WIAC (if you remove their results against IT).

IT was 4-4 against Platteville and Stout.  They are 1-11 vs UW-W, LaCrosse, and Stevens Point, with four games remaining against UW-0. So far, I think the only real surprise was their win against LaCrosse.

UPDATE: IIT's win over Oshkosh today in a game the Titans absolutely had to have qualifies as a huge surprise and certainly adds to their body of work as they close out their WIAC season.

With UW-0 and UW-W both splitting their respective double headers today, the Warhawks need one win tomorrow to secure the outright WIAC Championship.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on May 13, 2018, 09:21:13 PM
Congratulations to the Warhawks, who finish strong with a sweep of UW-L to take the WIAC title outright! 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on May 14, 2018, 08:21:18 AM
Oshkosh heads to the 6-team regional in Duluth (#3 seed), while UWW will be in the 8-team regional in Sauget (#2 seed).

https://www.ncaa.com/news/baseball/article/2018-05-14/2018-ncaa-division-iii-baseball-championship-selections-announced (https://www.ncaa.com/news/baseball/article/2018-05-14/2018-ncaa-division-iii-baseball-championship-selections-announced)



Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: UWO Titan 78 on May 14, 2018, 09:24:03 AM
Congrats to both Oshkosh and Whitewater for making the tournament. Both have realistic chances to make it to the World Series. Good luck to both!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 14, 2018, 12:03:55 PM
The WARHAWKS opened the weekend on a shaky leg blowing the lead twice and surrendering 5 runs in the Eagles' last two at bats while dropping game one 8-4.  WARHAWKS pitching was hit hard allowing 15 Eagle hits.  Renz took the loss going 6.1 innings giving up 10 hits, 5 earned runs while walking a pair and striking out 6.  Guretzmacher relieved but was also hit hard allowing 4 hits, 3 earned runs with a strikeout in 1.1 innings before Makuski allowed a hit and walked a batter before getting the final out.  Doud and Wary each drove in a pair while Aiello and Aldridge drove in a single run each. 

The ship was righted in game two with a convincing 11-1 win clinching the program's 18 conference championship.  Heilenbach had perhaps his best performance of the year allowing just a single earned run on 5 hits with a walk and 6 strikeouts in 7 innings.  O'Sullivan pitched the final two allowing just a single hit and striking out 3.  Aldridge tied a conference record with 3 doubles among his 4 hits and drove in 3 runs.  Wary collected 3 hits and drove in a pair.  Bryden also had 2 RBI.  Santoro, Aiello and Doud also had an RBI.  The WARHAWKS tied the conference record with 8 extra base hits in the game.

A 6-4 win in game three gave the WARHAWKS sole possession of the conference championship.  Jones started and pitched 7 shutout innings while walking a pair and striking out 6.  Muir relieved him but struggled allowing 4 earned runs on a pair of hits and walks in 1.1 innings.  Kaska picked up a save allowing a hit before coaxing the Eagles into a game ending double play ground ball.  Doud had a pair of hits and RBIs.  Bryden, Aldridge and Szubert also had a single run batted in.

After finishing game three Kaska got the start and picked up his 9th win, 10-3, in the final game.  Kaska went 5 innings surrendering 6 hits, 2 earned runs with a single walk and strikeout.  O'Sullivan relieved pitching 3 innings of 2 hit ball with an earned run, 2 walks and 2 strikeouts.  Gruetzmacher allowed a pair of hits pitching the ninth.  Aiello drove in 4 runs with a grand slam home run.  Schrader and Krause had a pair of hits and a pair of RBIs.  Szubert had two hits and drove in a run.  Doud had a single RBI. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: houdini on May 14, 2018, 10:12:58 PM
Quote from: UWO Titan 78 on May 14, 2018, 09:24:03 AM
Congrats to both Oshkosh and Whitewater for making the tournament. Both have realistic chances to make it to the World Series. Good luck to both!
We need Vince McMahon to write the script.  Oshkosh and Whitewater in a nice 3 game final with SRO crowds to send Fox Cities Stadium out in style.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on May 14, 2018, 11:00:42 PM
Now THAT would be awesome!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on May 17, 2018, 12:10:34 PM
Really nice honors for the Warhawks.

http://uwwsports.com/news/2018/5/17/baseball-sweeps-wiac-awards-eight-earn-all-conference.aspx (http://uwwsports.com/news/2018/5/17/baseball-sweeps-wiac-awards-eight-earn-all-conference.aspx)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanDoubles on May 18, 2018, 11:29:35 AM
I'm not a fan of six team regionals. Why not have eight 8-team regionals?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 18, 2018, 11:46:28 AM
Quote from: TitanDoubles on May 18, 2018, 11:29:35 AM
I'm not a fan of six team regionals. Why not have eight 8-team regionals?
The most obvious answer? 

Because there aren't enough teams (64) to make eight 8-team Regionals.  The NCAA added two teams this year (from 56 to 58) that still leaves Baseball six teams short.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TitanBystander on May 18, 2018, 12:03:02 PM
Can someone explain the regional rankings / seedings?  According to the latest NCBWA / D3Baseball rankings, Whitewater was the national #1 and Oshkosh was a national #7, yet they get a #2 and #3 seeding (respectively) in their region. 

I know it doesn't really matter a ton, but just seems strange. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 18, 2018, 12:19:04 PM
Quote from: TitanBystander on May 18, 2018, 12:03:02 PM
Can someone explain the regional rankings / seedings?  According to the latest NCBWA / D3Baseball rankings, Whitewater was the national #1 and Oshkosh was a national #7, yet they get a #2 and #3 seeding (respectively) in their region. 

I know it doesn't really matter a ton, but just seems strange.
There are two polls for rankings, D3Baseball.com/NCBWA (National Collegiate Baseball Writers Assn with 25 voters) and the ABCA (American Baseball Coaches Association with 16 voters), which are the opinions of those casting ballots.

The NCAA has established its Regional Rankings criteria across all sports. Here is the link to the Handbook that outlines the whole process.  This year, the D3baseball.com mock selection committee predicted 16 of the 18 at large Pool B and Pool C bids. The D3baseball.com mock selection committee said in private conversations that they understood how the National (NCAA) Committee picked UT-Tyler and Virginia Wesleyan over Wartburg and Rutgers-Camden.

Here is the NCAA Handbook.

http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/2018DIIIMBA_PreChampsManual_20180302.pdf
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 18, 2018, 04:37:11 PM
Quote from: TitanBystander on May 18, 2018, 12:03:02 PM
Can someone explain the regional rankings / seedings?  According to the latest NCBWA / D3Baseball rankings, Whitewater was the national #1 and Oshkosh was a national #7, yet they get a #2 and #3 seeding (respectively) in their region. 

I know it doesn't really matter a ton, but just seems strange.
Any national ranking you see is immaterial. Those are not conducted by the NCAA committee and are not part of the selection or seeding process. Only the regional rankings and the associated criteria matter.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 18, 2018, 10:44:33 PM
WIAC 3-0 now, with wins over the CCIW, MIAC, & MWC as UWO defeats North Central 11-1 tonight.

Whitwewater's bid to make it 4-0 ends up being pushed back to Saturday due to the rain.

UWO will face Concordia-Chicago Saturday in the Winners Bracket final. Would guess UWO will send Sustachek to the bump to start.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 19, 2018, 02:57:10 PM
Make it 4-0 for the WIAC as UWO secures a bid to the Midwest Regional Championship with a 9-7 victory over Concordia-Chicago.

UWO will need to defeat the winner of Dubuque/North Central vs Concordia-Chicago to advance to the College World Series.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 19, 2018, 08:12:58 PM
Another game, another WIAC victory (now 5-0) as Whitewater knocks off Tyler-Texas 8-2 to advance to the Winner's Bracket Final on Sunday.

The WIAC could be three wins away (UWO one and Whitewater two) from having two representatives at the final D3 College World Series st Fox Cities Stadium.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 19, 2018, 09:37:14 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 19, 2018, 08:12:58 PM
Another game, another WIAC victory (now 5-0) as Whitewater knocks off Tyler-Texas 8-2 to advance to the Winner's Bracket Final on Sunday.

The WIAC could be three wins away (UWO one and Whitewater two) from having two representatives at the final D3 College World Series at Fox Cities Stadium.
The Baseball gods are aware!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 19, 2018, 10:24:40 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 19, 2018, 09:37:14 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 19, 2018, 08:12:58 PM
Another game, another WIAC victory (now 5-0) as Whitewater knocks off Tyler-Texas 8-2 to advance to the Winner's Bracket Final on Sunday.

The WIAC could be three wins away (UWO one and Whitewater two) from having two representatives at the final D3 College World Series at Fox Cities Stadium.
The Baseball gods are aware!
Hence, the use of the word "could!!!"
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 20, 2018, 07:00:11 PM
So in a matter of about 8 hours, the WIAC goes from 5-0, to 5-3, as UWO is swept by Concordia-Chicago and Whitewater loses the Winner's Bracket Final to Rhodes.

It could be 5-4 in a couple more hours too, as Whitewater currently trails UT-Tyler 3-1 in the 5th inning of an elimination game.

Pretty disappointing day thus far for WIAC baseball fans...

Edit: And it ends up being an 0-4 day for the WIAC today... Neither UWO or Whitewater did much offensively on the day as they combined to score just 7 runs in 36 innings of play. I'm sure those in charge of things at Fox Cities Stadium were looking forward to the thought of two Wisconsin teams making it to the final World Series in Appleton. Seeing both teams get eliminated today had to be a "punch in the gut."
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on May 21, 2018, 09:16:59 AM
Yeah. That's pretty rough. They would've liked them both in especially since he World Series is moving away from Appleton.

Also interesting to me, since I really don't follow baseball, that they are doing the Super Regional format next year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on May 21, 2018, 02:47:49 PM
Congrats to all the WIAC players!

http://www.d3baseball.com/awards/all-region/2018/midwest (http://www.d3baseball.com/awards/all-region/2018/midwest)

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 24, 2018, 12:22:22 PM
Daytona Bryden, Cal Aldridge both named first team All Americans.  Bryden the national player of the year.  Kaska named to third team.

http://www.d3baseball.com/awards/all-americans/d3baseball-allamericans-2018
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 24, 2018, 01:14:59 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on May 21, 2018, 09:16:59 AM
Yeah. That's pretty rough. They would've liked them both in especially since he World Series is moving away from Appleton.

Also interesting to me, since I really don't follow baseball, that they are doing the Super Regional format next year.
I for one am looking forward to that change!!! 

I am a firm believer in the "Best of Three" format showing who the better team is over the long haul, but maybe I am in the minority? 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 24, 2018, 01:55:05 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 24, 2018, 01:14:59 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on May 21, 2018, 09:16:59 AM
Yeah. That's pretty rough. They would've liked them both in especially since he World Series is moving away from Appleton.

Also interesting to me, since I really don't follow baseball, that they are doing the Super Regional format next year.
I for one am looking forward to that change!!! 

I am a firm believer in the "Best of Three" format showing who the better team is over the long haul, but maybe I am in the minority?

I am with you 100%, as well as going back to the 4-team regional.  Even D1 teams would have a very tough time with a 6 or 8 team regional, not to mention the Northern D3 teams that play 40 games over about 10 weeks.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on May 25, 2018, 11:44:46 AM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_NCAA_Division_III_Baseball_Tournament

So, reading this correctly, there are still only 8 regionals (in Super Regionals format). 8 teams in each regional split into two groups of four. Double elimination and the winners of each group playing a Best of FIVE with a spot in the World Series at stake.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 25, 2018, 12:29:15 PM
Best of five???? D1 is best of three, correct?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 25, 2018, 12:56:54 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on May 25, 2018, 11:44:46 AM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_NCAA_Division_III_Baseball_Tournament

So, reading this correctly, there are still only 8 regionals (in Super Regionals format). 8 teams in each regional split into two groups of four. Double elimination and the winners of each group playing a Best of FIVE with a spot in the World Series at stake.

There might be 8 regionals, but there should be 16 sites.  The only regional that will require flights is the West.  I don't see how/why they would have 8 teams at a regional (split into 2 different tournaments) only to play a best of 5 a week later.  I think this Wiki entry is not correct.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 25, 2018, 03:48:19 PM
It will be just like D-III softball. This Wiki entry is not accurate.

16 regional sites, most have four teams a couple will have three.

8 super-regionals with two teams who play a best-of-3 series.

Finals remains just like it is now.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on May 27, 2018, 07:45:31 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on May 25, 2018, 03:48:19 PM
It will be just like D-III softball. This Wiki entry is not accurate.

16 regional sites, most have four teams a couple will have three.

8 super-regionals with two teams who play a best-of-3 series.

Finals remains just like it is now.

So not everything on the internet is true??  ??? :o ;D :P
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 29, 2018, 03:17:00 PM
WIAC in the Northwoods League

Colin Tremel (UW-O): Duluth
Jordan Wilson (UW-St): Eau Claire
Mason McMahon (UW-L): La Crosse
Jensen Martin (UW-O): Green Bay
Cabe Cuddie (UW-SP): Kenosha
Alex Stodola (UW-SP): Wisconsin
Tommy Duddleston (UW-SP): Wisconsin
Payton Nelson (UW-SP): Wisconsin
Mike Aiello (UW-W): Lakeshore
Nick Schrader (UW-W): Madison

Both Rentz and Jones are listed on Lakeshore's roster but both are graduating seniors so I was surprised to see them on the roster.  Temporary I assume.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on May 29, 2018, 03:50:06 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 29, 2018, 03:17:00 PM
WIAC in the Northwoods League

Colin Tremel (UW-O): Duluth
Jordan Wilson (UW-St): Eau Claire
Mason McMahon (UW-L): La Crosse
Jensen Martin (UW-O): Green Bay
Cabe Cuddie (UW-SP): Kenosha
Alex Stodola (UW-SP): Wisconsin
Tommy Duddleston (UW-SP): Wisconsin
Payton Nelson (UW-SP): Wisconsin
Mike Aiello (UW-W): Lakeshore
Nick Schrader (UW-W): Madison

Both Rentz and Jones are listed on Lakeshore's roster but both are graduating seniors so I was surprised to see them on the roster.  Temporary I assume.

While I understand that pitchers can play the summer following graduation ... perhaps they are hoping for one last chance to be seen/signed, especially since both were expected to be selected last year? Also, Aldridge (UWW) had been announced as a returning player for the Rivets, but now his name doesn't appear on their roster.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 29, 2018, 03:58:42 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 29, 2018, 03:17:00 PM
WIAC in the Northwoods League

Jensen Martin (UW-O): Green Bay
Gotta love the fact that they can't even get his name correct, unless there was a formal name change since the end of the season?

I'm assuming that is Catcher, Jensen Hinton from UWO?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 30, 2018, 09:38:50 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 29, 2018, 03:58:42 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 29, 2018, 03:17:00 PM
WIAC in the Northwoods League

Jensen Martin (UW-O): Green Bay
Gotta love the fact that they can't even get his name correct, unless there was a formal name change since the end of the season?

I'm assuming that is Catcher, Jensen Hinton from UWO?


I suspect you're correct cubs.  He is listed as a catcher.  I doubled checked this morning just to make sure it wasn't my mistake.  It wasn't he's listed as Jensen Martin. 

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 30, 2018, 02:13:21 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 30, 2018, 09:38:50 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 29, 2018, 03:58:42 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 29, 2018, 03:17:00 PM
WIAC in the Northwoods League

Jensen Martin (UW-O): Green Bay
Gotta love the fact that they can't even get his name correct, unless there was a formal name change since the end of the season?

I'm assuming that is Catcher, Jensen Hinton from UWO?

I suspect you're correct cubs.  He is listed as a catcher.  I doubled checked this morning just to make sure it wasn't my mistake.  It wasn't he's listed as Jensen Martin.
Looks like that isn't the only mistake...  I noticed a kid listed from Belle Plaine, "WI" and thought I should recognize name as that is close to Shawano.  Went to the Augustana website and found out he is actually from Belle Plaine, MN.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 30, 2018, 06:08:00 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on May 29, 2018, 03:50:06 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 29, 2018, 03:17:00 PM
WIAC in the Northwoods League

Colin Tremel (UW-O): Duluth
Jordan Wilson (UW-St): Eau Claire
Mason McMahon (UW-L): La Crosse
Jensen Martin (UW-O): Green Bay
Cabe Cuddie (UW-SP): Kenosha
Alex Stodola (UW-SP): Wisconsin
Tommy Duddleston (UW-SP): Wisconsin
Payton Nelson (UW-SP): Wisconsin
Mike Aiello (UW-W): Lakeshore
Nick Schrader (UW-W): Madison

Both Rentz and Jones are listed on Lakeshore's roster but both are graduating seniors so I was surprised to see them on the roster.  Temporary I assume.

While I understand that pitchers can play the summer following graduation ... perhaps they are hoping for one last chance to be seen/signed, especially since both were expected to be selected last year? Also, Aldridge (UWW) had been announced as a returning player for the Rivets, but now his name doesn't appear on their roster.



Ok, I didn't understand that.  I thought graduating seniors were ineligible.  In light of that what you're suggesting makes perfect sense.  Really hope the two get an opportunity.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on May 30, 2018, 09:01:50 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 30, 2018, 06:08:00 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on May 29, 2018, 03:50:06 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 29, 2018, 03:17:00 PM
WIAC in the Northwoods League

Colin Tremel (UW-O): Duluth
Jordan Wilson (UW-St): Eau Claire
Mason McMahon (UW-L): La Crosse
Jensen Martin (UW-O): Green Bay
Cabe Cuddie (UW-SP): Kenosha
Alex Stodola (UW-SP): Wisconsin
Tommy Duddleston (UW-SP): Wisconsin
Payton Nelson (UW-SP): Wisconsin
Mike Aiello (UW-W): Lakeshore
Nick Schrader (UW-W): Madison

Both Rentz and Jones are listed on Lakeshore's roster but both are graduating seniors so I was surprised to see them on the roster.  Temporary I assume.

While I understand that pitchers can play the summer following graduation ... perhaps they are hoping for one last chance to be seen/signed, especially since both were expected to be selected last year? Also, Aldridge (UWW) had been announced as a returning player for the Rivets, but now his name doesn't appear on their roster.



Ok, I didn't understand that.  I thought graduating seniors were ineligible.  In light of that what you're suggesting makes perfect sense.  Really hope the two get an opportunity.

I guess I understand the need for arms, but a special rule for pitchers seems unfair to a graduating position player like Bryden, for example, who does not have the same opportunity to be seen.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on May 30, 2018, 11:29:39 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on May 30, 2018, 09:01:50 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 30, 2018, 06:08:00 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on May 29, 2018, 03:50:06 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 29, 2018, 03:17:00 PM
WIAC in the Northwoods League

Colin Tremel (UW-O): Duluth
Jordan Wilson (UW-St): Eau Claire
Mason McMahon (UW-L): La Crosse
Jensen Martin (UW-O): Green Bay
Cabe Cuddie (UW-SP): Kenosha
Alex Stodola (UW-SP): Wisconsin
Tommy Duddleston (UW-SP): Wisconsin
Payton Nelson (UW-SP): Wisconsin
Mike Aiello (UW-W): Lakeshore
Nick Schrader (UW-W): Madison

Both Rentz and Jones are listed on Lakeshore's roster but both are graduating seniors so I was surprised to see them on the roster.  Temporary I assume.

While I understand that pitchers can play the summer following graduation ... perhaps they are hoping for one last chance to be seen/signed, especially since both were expected to be selected last year? Also, Aldridge (UWW) had been announced as a returning player for the Rivets, but now his name doesn't appear on their roster.



Ok, I didn't understand that.  I thought graduating seniors were ineligible.  In light of that what you're suggesting makes perfect sense.  Really hope the two get an opportunity.

I guess I understand the need for arms, but a special rule for pitchers seems unfair to a graduating position player like Bryden, for example, who does not have the same opportunity to be seen.

I would love Braden on my summer team.The Goldpanners have no problem with a graduated senior.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on May 31, 2018, 03:41:07 PM
Speaking of Daytona Bryden, this is an interesting piece. Does anyone know how many DIII position players have actually ever been drafted following graduation, and with no remaining eligibility? It seems like an unsigned free agent may be a more likely scenario. Regardless, the kid had a fantastic season and deserves every accolade he is receiving.

https://www.mlb.com/cut4/these-college-prospects-didnt-play-in-division-i-but-may-still-hear-their-names-called-in-the-mlb-draft/c-278257558 (https://www.mlb.com/cut4/these-college-prospects-didnt-play-in-division-i-but-may-still-hear-their-names-called-in-the-mlb-draft/c-278257558)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 31, 2018, 07:14:00 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on May 31, 2018, 03:41:07 PM
Speaking of Daytona Bryden, this is an interesting piece. Does anyone know how many DIII position players have actually ever been drafted following graduation, and with no remaining eligibility? It seems like an unsigned free agent may be a more likely scenario. Regardless, the kid had a fantastic season and deserves every accolade he is receiving.

https://www.mlb.com/cut4/these-college-prospects-didnt-play-in-division-i-but-may-still-hear-their-names-called-in-the-mlb-draft/c-278257558 (https://www.mlb.com/cut4/these-college-prospects-didnt-play-in-division-i-but-may-still-hear-their-names-called-in-the-mlb-draft/c-278257558)

There have been plenty of position players drafted.  Here is a list of Cal Lu guys that were picked after their senior season (the more recent ones):


2013 Garrett Smith, 2B - 37th Round, Cleveland Indians
2009 David Iden, 2B - 35th Round, Los Angeles Dodgers
2007 Lee Ellis, OF - 46th Round, Baltimore Orioles
2003 Brian Skaug, 2B - 20th Round, Houston Astros
2003 Taylor Slimak, C - 23rd Round, Los Angeles Dodgers

Throw in the pitchers and thats a pretty good list just from that school.

2014 Jake Petersen, LHP - 33th Round, Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim
2013 Garrett Smith, 2B - 37th Round, Cleveland Indians
2011 Ian Durham, RHP - 28th Round, Philadelphia Phillies
2009 David Iden, 2B - 35th Round, Los Angeles Dodgers
2007 Lee Ellis, OF - 46th Round, Baltimore Orioles
2005 Matt Hirsh, RHP - 30th Round, Houston Astros
2003 Jason Hirsh, RHP - 2nd Round, Houston Astros
2003 Brian Skaug, 2B - 20th Round, Houston Astros
2003 Taylor Slimak, C - 23rd Round, Los Angeles Dodgers
2002 Justin Keeling, LHP - 25th Round, Minnesota Twins
2000 Tom Canale, RHP - 10th Round, Cleveland Indians
1999 Adam Springston, P - 34th Round, Atlanta Braves
1997 Richard Bell, LHP - 28th Round, Los Angeles Dodgers
1994 Marc Weiss, RHP - 26th Round, Cincinnati Reds
1992 Darrell McMillin, OF - 60th Round, Kansas City Royals
1989 Daren Cornell, SS - 12th Round, Milwaukee Brewers
1985 Todd Dewey, C - 6th Round, Atlanta Braves
1982 John Westmoreland, C - 15th Round, San Diego Padres
1981 Mark Butler, LHP - 7th Round, Baltimore Orioles
1981 Kevin Gross, RHP -1st Round (11th overall pick), Philadelphia Phillies
1977 Gary Ledbetter, C - 1st Round (ninth overall pick), San Francisco Giants
1977 Steve Trumbauer, C - 18th Round, California Angels
1972 Jeff Brock, RHP - 17th Round, California Angels
1969 Robert Fulewider, 2B - 39th Round, St. Louis Cardinals
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on June 06, 2018, 03:49:49 PM
UWW's Heath Renz is selected by the Tampa Bay Rays in the 27th Round ... 810 overall.


Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 14, 2018, 01:56:08 PM
Northwoods League:

Collin Tremel (Duluth): 1-0, 3 G, 1 GS, 6.2 IP, 5 K, 9.44 ERA
Jordan Wilson (Eau Claire): 7 G, 20 AB, 1 H, 2 RBI, .050 BA
Mason McMahon (La Crosse): 1-1, 3 G, 2 GS, 10.2 IP, 15 K, 2.53 ERA
Jensen Hinton (Green Bay): 6 G, 11 AB, 0 H, .000 BA
Cale Cuddie (Kenosha): 1-1, 4 G, 2 GS, 9 IP, 5 K, 4.00 ERA
Alex Stroda (Wisconsin): 0-0, 5 G, 0 GS, 4 IP, 3 K, 4.50 ERA
Tommy Duddleston (Wisconsin): 13 G, 41 AB, 9 H, 2 RBI, .220 BA
Payton Nelson (Wisconsin): 16 G, 54 AB, 10 H, 7 RBI, .185 BA
Mike Aiello (Lakeshore): 7G, 21 AB, 3 H, .143 BA
Austin Jones (Lakeshore): 0-2, 3 G, 3 GS, 11.2 IP, 9 K, 8.48 ERA
Heath Renz (Lakeshore): 0-0, 2 G, 2 GS, 11.2 IP, 11 K, 0.77 ERA
Nick Schrader (Madison): 9 G, 33 AB, 8 H, 1 RBI, .242 BA
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 16, 2018, 11:16:58 AM
Quote from: cubs on September 17, 2017, 09:43:21 AM
Speaking of Taschner, it looks like he is sporting a different uniform these days!!!

http://www.wbay.com/content/news/Appleton-SRO-revs-up-crowd-at-football-game--444867233.html
Jack Taschner back in the news again this month for his work off the baseball field....

http://www.wbay.com/content/news/Appleton-school-resource-officer-honored-as-top-cop--485446911.html
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just the stats on June 19, 2018, 10:57:02 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 30, 2018, 09:38:50 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 29, 2018, 03:58:42 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 29, 2018, 03:17:00 PM
WIAC in the Northwoods League

Jensen Martin (UW-O): Green Bay
Gotta love the fact that they can't even get his name correct, unless there was a formal name change since the end of the season?

I'm assuming that is Catcher, Jensen Hinton from UWO?

Maybe he's the infamous "player to be named later" you see in trades.


I suspect you're correct cubs.  He is listed as a catcher.  I doubled checked this morning just to make sure it wasn't my mistake.  It wasn't he's listed as Jensen Martin.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on July 16, 2018, 02:41:53 PM
Exit Illinois Tech, enter Finlandia...

http://www.wiacsports.com/news/2018/7/16/wiac-announces-addition-of-finlandia-university-for-baseball.aspx

Observing upper peninsula weather for the past 100 years tells me a lot of those FinnU home games are going to end up being played on the road.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on July 17, 2018, 10:35:06 AM
Quote from: Just Bill on July 16, 2018, 02:41:53 PM
Exit Illinois Tech, enter Finlandia...

http://www.wiacsports.com/news/2018/7/16/wiac-announces-addition-of-finlandia-university-for-baseball.aspx

Observing upper peninsula weather for the past 100 years tells me a lot of those FinnU home games are going to end up being played on the road.
How quickly does this restore the Pool A bid to the WIAC?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on July 17, 2018, 04:18:33 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on July 16, 2018, 02:41:53 PM
Exit Illinois Tech, enter Finlandia...

http://www.wiacsports.com/news/2018/7/16/wiac-announces-addition-of-finlandia-university-for-baseball.aspx

Observing upper peninsula weather for the past 100 years tells me a lot of those FinnU home games are going to end up being played on the road.

I don't know how quickly we'd get our bid back but this great news.  When looking at what options the league had available Finlandia was one program I thought could be a possibility but frankly I didn't think they would go for it.  Hopefully this addition lasts longer than Ill. Tech. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on July 17, 2018, 04:30:21 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on July 17, 2018, 10:35:06 AM
Quote from: Just Bill on July 16, 2018, 02:41:53 PM
Exit Illinois Tech, enter Finlandia...

http://www.wiacsports.com/news/2018/7/16/wiac-announces-addition-of-finlandia-university-for-baseball.aspx

Observing upper peninsula weather for the past 100 years tells me a lot of those FinnU home games are going to end up being played on the road.
How quickly does this restore the Pool A bid to the WIAC?
WIAC would stay in Pool B for 2019 and 2020, and then regain Pool A status starting in 2021 if everything I have read is accurate...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on July 17, 2018, 04:44:46 PM
Quote from: cubs on July 17, 2018, 04:30:21 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on July 17, 2018, 10:35:06 AM
Quote from: Just Bill on July 16, 2018, 02:41:53 PM
Exit Illinois Tech, enter Finlandia...

http://www.wiacsports.com/news/2018/7/16/wiac-announces-addition-of-finlandia-university-for-baseball.aspx

Observing upper peninsula weather for the past 100 years tells me a lot of those FinnU home games are going to end up being played on the road.
How quickly does this restore the Pool A bid to the WIAC?
WIAC would stay in Pool B for 2019 and 2020, and then regain Pool A status starting in 2021 if everything I have read is accurate...
Candidly, Finlandia, in UP, needs games worse than Illinois Tech, there in Chicagoland.  I am always happy when a school can find a conference in which its athletes can contend. Ill Tech seems to have found its match for mission and vision in the NACC.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on July 19, 2018, 12:57:36 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on July 17, 2018, 04:18:33 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on July 16, 2018, 02:41:53 PM
Exit Illinois Tech, enter Finlandia...

http://www.wiacsports.com/news/2018/7/16/wiac-announces-addition-of-finlandia-university-for-baseball.aspx

Observing upper peninsula weather for the past 100 years tells me a lot of those FinnU home games are going to end up being played on the road.

I don't know how quickly we'd get our bid back but this great news.  When looking at what options the league had available Finlandia was one program I thought could be a possibility but frankly I didn't think they would go for it.  Hopefully this addition lasts longer than Ill. Tech.

The only real options for Finlandia was the WIAC or UMAC.  If the program does not get better, it will drag down the pool C chances for every other team in the WIAC.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on July 19, 2018, 01:29:08 PM
It's just a hunch but I suspect we're in a position of taking whoever we can get.  We did alright Pool C wise with Superior in the league and they didn't do a whole heck of a lot to improve anyone's chances.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on November 07, 2018, 12:28:47 PM
A lot of this can and will change before the 2019 Recruiting classes show up....but these are commitments to the WIAC that I have seen thus far.

La Crosse

Benjamin Byom Holmen RHP
Jack Perinovic Menomonee Falls  RHP
Sawyer Phillips Antioch IL  RHP
Sam Rogers New Lisbon  RHP
Michael Schaefer Muscoda  LHP
Gavin Gillitzer Prairie Du Chien  2B
Spencer Hans Lake Mills  SS
Zach Schneider Appleton East  C
Jonathan Wizner Germantown  SS

Oshkosh

Zachary Guenther Waterford  RHP
Carter Hesselman Eau Claire North  RHP
Marcus Keller Wauconda IL  RHP
Cameron Mulvihill Evanston IL  LHP
Brian Adams Sandburg IL  SS
Jackson Broom Huntley IL  3B
Austin Doty South Elgin IL  OF
Jackson Mladic Lockport IL  OF
Ryan Pawlak Plainfield South IL  1B
Andrew Zakula Oak Creek  1B
Colin Olkiewicz Minooka IL OF

Stevens Point

Nick Carpenter Lake Mills  LHP
JD Schultz Stevens Point RHP
Sam Von Schrader Tomahawk  RHP
Joey Bartolone Arrowhead  2B
Luke Blaha Mukwonago  OF
Noah Taege Freedom  3B
Quin Henwood Appleton North  3B

Whitewater

John Gallet Lockport IL  LHP
Nick Rockweiler Elkhorn  OF
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 07, 2019, 03:16:42 PM
The Stevens Point baseball program gets a generous donation from one of its All Time greats:

https://www.wsaw.com/content/news/Jordan-Mandy-Zimmerman-donate-500000-to-Pointers-baseball-505516181.html
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 08, 2019, 01:20:50 PM
Quote from: cubs on February 07, 2019, 03:16:42 PM
The Stevens Point baseball program gets a generous donation from one of its All Time greats:

https://www.wsaw.com/content/news/Jordan-Mandy-Zimmerman-donate-500000-to-Pointers-baseball-505516181.html

I saw this last night... $500,000 is a massive donation to a small school. I love to see guys giving back.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 08, 2019, 01:52:13 PM
UWSP posts their roster for the upcoming season

https://athletics.uwsp.edu/roster.aspx?roster=324&path=baseball (https://athletics.uwsp.edu/roster.aspx?roster=324&path=baseball)

New players include:

Carter Daniels LHP Montello
Mitchel Neubauer RHP Southern Door
Zack Haupt RHP Carlsbad, CA
Bradley Comer IF Rhinelander
Anthony Moore OF Sturgeon Bay
Caleb Krommennaker RHP Wisconsin Rapids
Nate Jackan IF Wisconsin Rapids
Austin Syvertson RHP Randolph
Christopher Schiera RHP Sandwich, IL
Max Herro RHP Kettle Moraine
Kyle Finger C Clintonville
Jacob Danielson C Stevens Point

Players with eligibility left not coming back this year:

Walker Smith OF Waupaca
Bryce Schure 3B Muskego
Christian Zamudio 3B Kenosha Tremper
Hunter Korger P Marshfield
Jared Klein C Marshfield

Zamudio is the only player listed here not coming back that played consistently.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 11, 2019, 11:02:59 AM
WARHAWKS roster:

https://uwwsports.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 12, 2019, 11:34:10 AM
If the first couple of series are any indication, it appears UWO doesn't have much pitching once you get past Treml....  Add in the fact that they have scored a grand total of 15 tuns in six games, it doesn't leave a large margin of error which is probably why they sit at 1-5 thus far.

After two more weekend trips to Kentucky and Indiana (they've already gone to Alabama and Tennessee) the conference season is scheduled to begin. 

I would be curious to know if the four weekend trips end up costing more, less, or about the same as a week long trip to Florida like most schools seem to do.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 12, 2019, 05:29:48 PM
https://athletics.uwsp.edu/news/2019/3/12/pointers-baseball-success-to-be-built-on-versatility-in-2019.aspx (https://athletics.uwsp.edu/news/2019/3/12/pointers-baseball-success-to-be-built-on-versatility-in-2019.aspx)

UWSP Season Preview
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 14, 2019, 04:27:54 PM
UWSP falls to Amherst in their season opener 6-5.  UWSP has the lead in the 9th at 5-3.  Pitching depth looks to be a problem again.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 15, 2019, 10:03:59 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 08, 2019, 01:52:13 PM
UWSP posts their roster for the upcoming season

https://athletics.uwsp.edu/roster.aspx?roster=324&path=baseball (https://athletics.uwsp.edu/roster.aspx?roster=324&path=baseball)

New players include:

Carter Daniels LHP Montello
Mitchel Neubauer RHP Southern Door
Zack Haupt RHP Carlsbad, CA
Bradley Comer IF Rhinelander
Anthony Moore OF Sturgeon Bay
Caleb Krommennaker RHP Wisconsin Rapids
Nate Jackan IF Wisconsin Rapids
Austin Syvertson RHP Randolph
Christopher Schiera RHP Sandwich, IL
Max Herro RHP Kettle Moraine
Kyle Finger C Clintonville
Jacob Danielson C Stevens Point

Players with eligibility left not coming back this year:

Walker Smith OF Waupaca
Bryce Schure 3B Muskego
Christian Zamudio 3B Kenosha Tremper
Hunter Korger P Marshfield
Jared Klein C Marshfield

Zamudio is the only player listed here not coming back that played consistently.

Any idea if these players just hung them up or transferred out of the program?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 15, 2019, 12:35:34 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on March 15, 2019, 10:03:59 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 08, 2019, 01:52:13 PM
UWSP posts their roster for the upcoming season

https://athletics.uwsp.edu/roster.aspx?roster=324&path=baseball (https://athletics.uwsp.edu/roster.aspx?roster=324&path=baseball)

New players include:

Carter Daniels LHP Montello
Mitchel Neubauer RHP Southern Door
Zack Haupt RHP Carlsbad, CA
Bradley Comer IF Rhinelander
Anthony Moore OF Sturgeon Bay
Caleb Krommennaker RHP Wisconsin Rapids
Nate Jackan IF Wisconsin Rapids
Austin Syvertson RHP Randolph
Christopher Schiera RHP Sandwich, IL
Max Herro RHP Kettle Moraine
Kyle Finger C Clintonville
Jacob Danielson C Stevens Point

Players with eligibility left not coming back this year:

Walker Smith OF Waupaca
Bryce Schure 3B Muskego
Christian Zamudio 3B Kenosha Tremper
Hunter Korger P Marshfield
Jared Klein C Marshfield

Zamudio is the only player listed here not coming back that played consistently.

Any idea if these players just hung them up or transferred out of the program?

Zamudio became a student assistant this year, I assume the others quit playing but don't know for sure.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 21, 2019, 04:13:56 PM
UWSP loses today to Anderson University(IN) 7-4.....a team La Crosse beat 11-0....that's alarming
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on March 21, 2019, 09:54:23 PM
And with a 6-0 shutout by the Tommies the Warhawks are now 1-4. This can't the the start anyone expected. It will be interesting to see if there are some clubhouse leaders who step up both on and off the field. Three Warhawks contributed a total of five hits. This isn't Hawkball.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 30, 2019, 01:49:48 PM
Stodola has a great line in his first conference outing this year...doesn't even make it out of the 2nd.  That's Jirschele's ace for ya, about 45 pitches and 15 strikes.

For a college level pitcher to throw behind a hitter when you're not trying to throw at someone, is terrible.  Never seen that before at this level.



Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 31, 2019, 10:29:17 AM
Fans who paid to watch point yesterday should get their money back that was sad. Time to go in a new direction Point went from an annual top 15 team in the nation to middle of the pack in the WIAC. When I read that Stodola was the ace this year I was astonished and thought to myself does Point not know how to recruit any longer? Point will be lucky to finish above platteville and Stout this year and at this point who knows if they'll win all 4 vs Finladia.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 31, 2019, 11:03:55 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 31, 2019, 10:29:17 AM
Fans who paid to watch point yesterday should get their money back that was sad. Time to go in a new direction Point went from an annual top 15 team in the nation to middle of the pack in the WIAC. When I read that Stodola was the ace this year I was astonished and thought to myself does Point not know how to recruit any longer? Point will be lucky to finish above platteville and Stout this year and at this point who knows if they'll win all 4 vs Finladia.

Point hasn't forgotten how to recruit...Jirschele hasn't ever been able to and that's been the downfall of the program.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 31, 2019, 12:20:59 PM
WARHAWKS sweep St Scholastica 2-0, 5-0.  Kaska goes 9 complete allowing 4 hits and striking out 17 in game one.  Santoro (2x4), Doud (2x4) and Wilkins (2x3) with multiple hits.  Wilkins and Aldridge with RBI.  O'Sullivan pitches 7.2 shutout innings surrendering 4 hits and striking out 5 in game two.  Santoro (2x4), Schroeder (2x4) and Korman (2x4) have multiple hits.  Korman drives in a pair while Aldridge, Wilkins and Campbell all have solo RBI.

Scholastica didn't look to have as strong a team as in the recent past but it's still a solid program and these were nice wins.  Their left and right fielders made some incredible running catches of balls that appeared to have extra bases written all over them. 

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on April 02, 2019, 08:13:44 AM
Can anyone recall the last time no WIAC team was ranked in the Top 25? I've been following since 2012 and I don't believe I have ever seen it before today.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 05, 2019, 02:28:26 PM
Quote from: Baseball Geek on April 02, 2019, 08:13:44 AM
Can anyone recall the last time no WIAC team was ranked in the Top 25? I've been following since 2012 and I don't believe I have ever seen it before today.
The d3baseball.com Poll has only been around since 2010, so with that said, I don't think there has ever been a week where a WIAC school hasn't been ranked before this week after Whitewater dropped out of the rankings.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 08, 2019, 11:48:05 AM
Am interested to see what how the Stout and Platteville series against Stevens Point and UWO play out this year....  Based on what I have seen early this season, it wouldn't shock me to see BOTH Stevens Point and UWO miss the WIAC Tournament this year.

Would I bet on it?  Not at all, but it sure feels like the gap between those four teams has gotten MUCH smaller over the past few seasons.  UWO helped their cause winning the series finale against Whitewater this weekend (to avoid a four game sweep) but once you get past Treml I'm not sure they have the pitching depth to win a WIAC four game series other than against Finlandia. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: UWO Titan 78 on April 08, 2019, 12:29:06 PM
After last season's trip to the regionals, I'd hoped the Titans had turned the corner. It looks like they lack the pitching depth this season to compete in what appears to be a wide-open WIAC.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 16, 2019, 09:17:42 AM
And Finlandia is on the board!!!!

After eleven unsuccessful attempts at picking up their first WIAC victory, Finlandia manages to take the series finale from UWSP 9-7.  That comes after being outscored by UWSP 56-7 over the course of the first three games of the series.

The WIAC clearly looks like a two-horse race this season with Whitewater (9-1) and La Crosse (10-2) pulling away from the rest of the pack (next best record is .500.) 

It will be interesting to see if either Whitewater or La Crosse can earn a Pool B bid while the the other tries their luck at a Pool C selection, as WashU seems to have a pretty tight grasp on one of the Pool B spots already.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on April 16, 2019, 09:29:51 AM
Another tip of the cap to Coach Jirschele, first coach to lose a conference game to Finlandia.  The combined scores of conference games Finlandia has been involved in up to the finale against UWSP was 142-21.  Shouldn't be surprising at this point that UWSP manages to lose one, I thought middle of the WIAC was as far as the program would fall under Jirschele...I might be wrong.  Stout and Platteville might also be better than the Pointers this year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on April 16, 2019, 03:45:20 PM
Quote from: UWO Titan 78 on April 08, 2019, 12:29:06 PM
After last season's trip to the regionals, I'd hoped the Titans had turned the corner. It looks like they lack the pitching depth this season to compete in what appears to be a wide-open WIAC.

I expect they are missing the contribution of the catcher position as much as anything.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 19, 2019, 09:56:43 AM
La Crosse managed to earn a split against #1 Concordia-Chicago yesterday down in Illinois.

The Eagles dropped the opener 3-0, as CUC plated a pair of runs in the seventh inning to break a scoreless tie.

The nightcap saw La Crosse snap the #1 Cougars 24-game win streak, and do it impressive fashion!!! Not only was it a 10-0 "mercy-rule" seven inning victory, UWL's Connor Cook no-hit the Cougars while facing just two batters over the minimum. A second inning walk and a batter reaching via error in the seventh inning was all CUC saw for baserunners.

I must say, I can't ever remember the #1 team in the Country getting no-hit in the past. While all no-hitters are special, I think the talent level of the opponent in this one gives it a little extra "shine." Congrats Connor!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 19, 2019, 10:23:26 PM
Well at least the Pointers are showing promise and we're competitive with a great Platteville team. They have a star studded lineup and are just struggling to find ways to win.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 19, 2019, 10:26:18 PM
Is it safe to say the Pointer men's baseball program has been buried and its going to basically take a minimum of 3-5 years to get it in the right direction. I never anticipated seeing a day where platteville would dominate point in baseball and then a loss to finladia a team that wouldn't even win some of Wisconsin high school baseball conferences.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 20, 2019, 09:57:54 PM
At least the Pointers pulled off the huge upset today and won in 12. Is Platteville going to the World Series this year or are the Pointers really not even good enough to win the high school d1 title?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 23, 2019, 08:15:50 PM
WARHAWKS sophomore lefty Matt O'Sullivan no hit Platteville in today's 10 run rule shortened second game.  O'Sullivan struck out 9 and walked just a single batter.  The WARHAWKS won both games 15-2 and 12-0 finishing the season series 4-0. 

Platteville does not appear headed to the World Series.  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 24, 2019, 08:52:40 AM
Interesting to see that after going close to ten years without a "no-hitter," the WIAC has had three separate pitchers accomplish the task just this season, against three different opponents (Finlandia, Concordia-Chicago, and Platteville.)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on April 24, 2019, 11:17:09 PM
Hawks have won 13 in a row, outscoring opponents 152-22 in that stretch. Now four big ones coming up this weekend at UW-L.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 25, 2019, 06:40:29 AM
Well let's hear some opinions on who will be head coach for UWSP next year. Several seasons of mediocrity and now just embarrassing all the way around. I would assume that the athletic director and other people involved in the hiring process realize they need to start completely over and get someone who can recruit and immediately before more damage is done. To go from a program that consistently was top 25 in the nation to losing to Finladia and being dominated by Platteville speaks for itself. Like someone stated earlier this year the coach really thought their staff would be good with stodola as their ace? Their are guys getting innings that high school teams would knock around. Other than a few players I'm not sure any of the others would've even made the team when point had their long stretch of being very good. I'll be the first to admit I was wrong that bloom leaving wouldn't hurt the program too much now I'm guessing if someone could pay him enough to come back they would.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 25, 2019, 10:13:53 AM
If I have it figured out correctly, if UWO splits with Platteville the first weekend in May, they clinch a berth in the WIAC Tournament. 

That would put them at 12-12, and the best Stout can finish is 12-12.  Since the two teams split their four game series, UWO's victory over 1st Place Whitewater would give them the spot at this point.  (That could change however if La Crosse would take three out of four this weekend and leapfrog Whitewater in the standings.  In that case, Stout would get the tiebreaker due to their victory over La Crosse, while UWO was swept by the Eagles.)

Assuming Platteville sweeps Finlandia this weekend, a split against UWO would also secure a spot for the Pioneers as well.

You can be fairly certain Whitewater and La Crosse will be the #1 and #2 seed, with two of UWO/Platteville/Stout being the #3 and #4 seed.  At this point, I would lean towards UWO as the #3 and Platteville as the #4.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on April 28, 2019, 05:54:50 PM
Game one of series:
UW-W 14
UW-L   3
(7 innings run rule)

The train keeps rolling.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on April 28, 2019, 09:12:43 PM
Game 2

UW-W  10
UW-L   11

Eagles come back from deficits of 5-0 after 3 and 10-7 after 7 to get the win.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2019, 04:04:21 PM
Stout defeats UWSP again to improve to 11-12.  Another win in the nightcap to finish at 12-12 would put a little pressure on both Platteville and UWO for their series this weekend.

La Crosse knocks off Whitewater 2-1 in an awesome pitcher's duel between Pronchinske and Kaska.  Both throw CG's and combine for 23 K's and just one walk on the afternoon.  A win by La Crosse in the nightcap would tie them atop the standings with Whitewater but give them the all important series win if the teams finished in a tie after next weekend's games.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 29, 2019, 09:50:57 PM
Is it possible Points not giving maximum effort in hopes of getting a new coach? Embarrassing at this point would be a nice way to describe the season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 30, 2019, 11:15:00 AM
Well entering the final weekend of WIAC play, here is where things stand:

1.  Whitewater- Following their four game split with La Crosse, they will clinch the #1 seed and the right to host the WIAC Tournament if they take three out of four from UWSP this weekend.  If they split, it would come down to tiebreakers if La Crosse sweeps Finlandia. In that case they would need Platteville to do no better than split with UWO this weekend and they would still earn the #1 seed and right to host.
2.  La Crosse-Assuming they sweep the four game series from Finlandia, La Crosse would need Stevens Point to split with Whitewater this weekend AND have UWO win three out of four this weekend against Platteville to earn the right to host the WIAC Tournament.
3.  Platteville-Needs to split with UWO to secure the #3 seed for the WIAC Tournament.  Winning one out of four would give them the #4 seed as they would win the tiebreaker with Stout by virtue of winning the season series with the Blue Devils three games to one.
4.  UWO-Needs to win three out of four to secure the #3 seed for the WIAC Tournament.  A split would give them the #4 seed as they would win the tiebreaker over Stout (beat Whitewater once while Stout lost all four.)  Winning just one of four this weekend would leave them on the outside looking in.
5.  Stout-Needs Platteville to either win three out of four OR UWO to sweep Platteville this weekend to earn the #4 seed in the WIAC Tournament.  Any other outcome and Stout would miss out on a WIAC Tournament bid.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 03, 2019, 04:30:45 PM
Well if you're Stout, you're hoping Platteville can win two out of the last three against UWO after the Pioneers hang a 14-spot in the fifth inning on their way to a 16-3 victory over UWO and Treml in Game #1  of their four game weekend series.

La Crosse is well on their way to a DH sweep over Finlandia today and Whitewater hangs on for a 7-6 victory over UWSP in the opener of their four game series.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 03, 2019, 06:43:07 PM
Well Platteville takes UWO out behind the woodshed again in Game #2, as they win by mercy rule once again, 11-0. UWO musters just one hit in the contest.

La Crosse finished off a DH sweep of Finlandia with a 15-3 victory in the nightcap.

Whitewater on their way to a DH sweep of Stevens Point as they lead 10-2 in the 8th inning.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 04, 2019, 06:29:53 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 08, 2019, 11:48:05 AM
Am interested to see what how the Stout and Platteville series against Stevens Point and UWO play out this year....  Based on what I have seen early this season, it wouldn't shock me to see BOTH Stevens Point and UWO miss the WIAC Tournament this year.

Would I bet on it?  Not at all, but it sure feels like the gap between those four teams has gotten MUCH smaller over the past few seasons.  UWO helped their cause winning the series finale against Whitewater this weekend (to avoid a four game sweep) but once you get past Treml I'm not sure they have the pitching depth to win a WIAC four game series other than against Finlandia.
Like I was saying... Nice to be right every once in awhile!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 05, 2019, 06:32:52 PM
No Point, no Oshkosh, the conference tournament will have a different look this year.

WARHAWKS beat Concordia-Wisconsin 10-5 today. 

Aldridge's second hit, a single, set a program record for total hits at 249.  His first hit, a home run, pulled him to within one of trying the career home run record of 49. 

The win was head coach John Vodenlich's 600th career win 

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 11, 2019, 03:17:42 PM
The 2019 edition of the WIAC Tournament marked the first time that both Stout and Platteville qualified for the event in the same season since it's inception in 1998.

This was Stout's fourth time making the WIAC Tournament (1999, 2007, and 2014) and after going 0-2 yesterday, the Blue Devils are now 1-7 all time.

Platteville made their third trip to the WIAC Tournament (2005 and 2010) and doubled their All-Time victory total with the 5-2 victory over Stout on Friday.  The Pioneers are now 2-6 all time in the WIAC Tournament after being eliminated by La Crosse today.

The 2019 edition also marked the first time that Stevens Point failed to qualify for the event.  The Pointers had been the only school to qualify for every WIAC Tournament entering the 2019 season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 11, 2019, 10:11:14 PM
Whitewater splits a pair of games today to earn the 2019 WIAC Tournament Championship.  One would like to think that a 34-10 record would be enough to earn the Warhawks a Pool B bid, but even if they don't, I believe they are in decent shape for a Pool C bid.

As far as La Crosse, I really hope they earn a Pool C bid.  At 28-15, the record may not look great, but when you look at who some of their wins have come against, I believe they have a decent argument.  Besides a 3-4 record against Whitewater, the Eagles also have a win over Concordia-Chicago.  Ironically, a loss by Concordia-Chicago tomorrow in the NACC Tournament Championship would reduce the Eagles odds, as Concordia-Chicago would be a "lock" for a Pool C berth.

Here's to both Whitewater and La Crosse getting to continue their season next weekend once the bids are announced on Monday!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on May 13, 2019, 12:22:00 PM
Whitewater Regional:

1-Webster
2-UWW
3-North Central
4-Bethany Lutheran
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WW on May 13, 2019, 01:15:10 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 11, 2019, 10:11:14 PM
Whitewater splits a pair of games today to earn the 2019 WIAC Tournament Championship.  One would like to think that a 34-10 record would be enough to earn the Warhawks a Pool B bid, but even if they don't, I believe they are in decent shape for a Pool C bid.

As far as La Crosse, I really hope they earn a Pool C bid.  At 28-15, the record may not look great, but when you look at who some of their wins have come against, I believe they have a decent argument.  Besides a 3-4 record against Whitewater, the Eagles also have a win over Concordia-Chicago.  Ironically, a loss by Concordia-Chicago tomorrow in the NACC Tournament Championship would reduce the Eagles odds, as Concordia-Chicago would be a "lock" for a Pool C berth.

Here's to both Whitewater and La Crosse getting to continue their season next weekend once the bids are announced on Monday!!!

IMO it looks better than Baldwin-Wallace's 25-15.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 22, 2019, 12:57:17 PM
Any chance that St. Thomas lands in the WIAC? Would be an attractive fit for the conference.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 22, 2019, 01:13:56 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 22, 2019, 12:57:17 PM
Any chance that St. Thomas lands in the WIAC? Would be an attractive fit for the conference.

I think the whole situation stinks, but the WIAC would just get stronger in every sport by adding UST.  Travel wouldn't really be increased and I think it would benefit everyone involved.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on May 23, 2019, 04:56:00 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 22, 2019, 12:57:17 PM
Any chance that St. Thomas lands in the WIAC? Would be an attractive fit for the conference.

It would take the WIAC out of Pool B.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on May 23, 2019, 04:56:51 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on May 23, 2019, 04:56:00 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 22, 2019, 12:57:17 PM
Any chance that St. Thomas lands in the WIAC? Would be an attractive fit for the conference.

It would take the WIAC out of Pool B.

Nevermind, that was Finlandia's role.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 23, 2019, 05:53:33 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on May 23, 2019, 04:56:51 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on May 23, 2019, 04:56:00 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 22, 2019, 12:57:17 PM
Any chance that St. Thomas lands in the WIAC? Would be an attractive fit for the conference.

It would take the WIAC out of Pool B.

Nevermind, that was Finlandia's role.

Or will be, after Finlandia sticks for two years. But if I'm the WIAC, I want insurance against that, or Finlandia closing, or dropping baseball -- I think none of that is completely outlandish.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 23, 2019, 05:56:06 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on May 23, 2019, 04:56:51 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on May 23, 2019, 04:56:00 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 22, 2019, 12:57:17 PM
Any chance that St. Thomas lands in the WIAC? Would be an attractive fit for the conference.

It would take the WIAC out of Pool B.

Nevermind, that was Finlandia's role.
If UST becomes a full member of the WIAC for 2021-22, I would have a hard time prohibiting UST from not being a full contributing member of the WIAC from day 1 (and not an affiliate)... and waive any "provisional" restrictions on the conference.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on July 08, 2019, 04:43:30 PM
Former UWSP Pointer, JP Feyereisen, has been chosen to play in the Triple A All Star Game this year.  The game will be broadcasted on MLB Network this Wednesday starting at 8 pm CST.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WW on July 15, 2019, 04:18:50 PM
Sad news from Whitewater. Former Warhawk catcher Justin Wegner has died after a three-year battle with cancer. Wegner, from Naperville, was a starter on the 2016 team.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baseball Geek on July 15, 2019, 04:55:27 PM
Quote from: WW on July 15, 2019, 04:18:50 PM
Sad news from Whitewater. Former Warhawk catcher Justin Wegner has died after a three-year battle with cancer. Wegner, from Naperville, was a starter on the 2016 team.

Not only a great player, a truly fine young man. He was a special kid from a special family and our hearts are breaking with them. He is not lost ... his courage, fight, and commitment to others even when he was so sick is an inspiration that will live with us all forever. He gave us all so much.

I should also mention that many WIAC baseball parents have asked about him during the past few years and were particularly supportive at the events held on his behalf. The Warhawk baseball family is grateful.

#JWEGSTRONG

https://uwwsports.com/news/2019/7/15/baseball-former-warhawk-justin-wegner-passes-away.aspx?fbclid=IwAR2D9LqKOCpn2B97vTUc5Wwpc5I2Jw6n6Cp9HqLUf7_XzNAqLARwwiCRZL4 (https://uwwsports.com/news/2019/7/15/baseball-former-warhawk-justin-wegner-passes-away.aspx?fbclid=IwAR2D9LqKOCpn2B97vTUc5Wwpc5I2Jw6n6Cp9HqLUf7_XzNAqLARwwiCRZL4)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on July 18, 2019, 10:03:25 AM
So young, so sad.  He was a really nice young man with a bright future.  This sucks
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on August 09, 2019, 08:11:56 PM
Of possible interest to WIAC fans, an Oshkosh native...

With thanks to Bo Carter for all his work to make this happen, here is the press release announcing our Banks-Bragan SABR Chapter's two collegiate player of the year awards.  We have two very deserving winners again this year.



FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Aug. 6, 2018 – Contact: Bo Carter, SABR (214-418-6132, bcarter@footballfoundation.com)



TCU's Guenther Captures 2019 Howard Green SABR Metroplex DI Player of Year; East Texas Baptist Nabs 8th Annual Carroll Beringer SABR Metroplex College Division Award Following Family Tradition



DALLAS – TCU's Jake Guenther and East Texas Baptist's Casey Combs have been selected as the 27th annual Howard Green SABR Metroplex Collegiate Player of the Year Award recipient and the eighth annual SABR Metroplex Carroll Beringer Award College Division Player of the Year Award, respectively, by the Ernie Banks-Bobby Bragan DFW Chapter of the Society of American Baseball Research.



The prestigious collegiate baseball awards honor the memory of longtime DFW SABR president Howard Green and former big league pitching coach who was a great supporter of college baseball in the area Carroll Beringer.



Jake Guenther, a junior first baseman from Oshkosh (B'Gosh), Wis., was the 2019 Big 12 Conference Newcomer of the Year. Though he was limited late in the season by an injury, he still led coach Jim Schlossnagle's Horned Frogs with a .345 batting average and .462 on-base percentage, which both ranked third in Big 12 individual stats. He also slugged 10 home runs, batted in 42 runs and had an OPS of 1.038.



He set a school record by reaching base in his first 50 games in a TCU uniform and helped the Frogs gain an at-large berth in the NCAA Baseball Championship regionals.



Guenther, who was chosen in the seventh round of the 2019 Major League Baseball Draft by the Tampa Bay Rays, started 56 of the 58 games he played in and also registered time in right field and as a designated hitter. The 6-4, 230-pound first team All-Big 12 Conference choice was honorable mention All-America and starred at both Sacramento (Calif.) City College and Oshkosh West HS before arriving in Fort Worth in 2017. He was redshirted in '18 before moving into a regular's role in 2019.



The Wisconsin resident was Sacramento City's 2017 Male Athlete of the Year and first team All-California Intercollegiate Community College after pitching and playing first base at Oshkosh West. He was recruited heavily by Wisconsin-Oshkosh to play basketball but chose the diamond path instead.



Casey Combs, a 6-2, 195-pound, senior from Southlake, Texas and Southlake Carroll HS, is very familiar with the SABR Beringer Award. His older brother Conner Combs captured the 2016 Beringer Award, and the standouts are the sons of former Baylor and MLB standout pitcher Pat Combs who is an analyst on Fox Sports baseball broadcasts.



Combs was named to two All-America first teams (D3baseball.com, American Baseball Coaches Association) in '19, was the West Region Player of the Year (D3baseball.com, ABCA), the American Southwest Conference Player of the Year, and a CoSIDA Academic All-America third team selection.



The Southlake stalwart also earned All-ASC first team honors and was on the D3baseball.com Team of the Week. He was a two-time ASC Hitter of the Week and was named 2018-19 American Southwest Conference Athlete of the Year for all sports.



The 27th round pick of the Miami Marlins in the '19 MLB draft topped as the Tigers with a .417 batting average, 68 hits, 48 RBI, and 19 stolen bases while tying for the team homers' lead with 13. He had a career-high 11-game hitting streak from March 8-23 and had a career-tying-best five hits against Louisiana College on April 26 in ASC activity.



Combs was 2018-19 ETBU Male Athlete of the Year and helped the Tigers to their third 30-victory season in four years and third place in the ASC regular-season standings. His career statistical line included a .332 batting average, 160 hits, 106 runs, 120 RBI, 28 doubles, 19 home runs, 39 stolen bases, and 47 runners thrown out from his catcher's post.



They join the likes of previous SABR awardees such as Texas Rangers star Hunter Pence (Major League Baseball All-Star) as well as Michael Choice of UTA, TCU's Brandon Finnegan, Scott Malone and Lance Broadway as well as DBU's Drew Holder, Brandon Harper, Evan Bigley, Jason Krizan, Brandon Koch, and Boomer Collins, among others.



Previous winners of the Howard Green SABR Metroplex College Baseball Player of the Year have been Scott Malone, TCU, 1993; Jason Parsons, Dallas Baptist, 1994; Johnny Issom, Texas Wesleyan, 1995; Karl Chatman, Dallas Baptist, 1996; Brandon Harper, Dallas Baptist, 1997; Royce Huffman, TCU, 1998; Cody Sundbeck, Dallas Baptist, 1999; (co) Jon Browder, Dallas Baptist; Pat Hannon, Texas Wesleyan, 2000; Mike Hall, Texas Wesleyan, 2001; Terry Trofholz, TCU, 2002; Clayton Jerome, TCU, 2003; Hunter Pence, UT Arlington, 2004; Lance Broadway, TCU, 2005; Drew Holder, Dallas Baptist, 2006; Sam Demel, TCU, 2007; Evan Bigley, Dallas Baptist, 2008; Matt Otteman, UT Arlington, 2009; (co) Michael Choice, UT Arlington; Matt Purke, TCU, 2010; Jason Krizan, Dallas Baptist, 2011; Boomer Collins, Dallas Baptist, 2012; Duncan McAlpine, Dallas Baptist, 2013; (co) Brandon Finnegan, Preston Morrison, TCU, 2014; Brandon Koch, Dallas Baptist, 2015; (co) Darick Hall, Dallas Baptist; Luken Baker, TCU, 2016; Austin Listi, Dallas Baptist, 2017; Devlin Granberg, Dallas Baptist, 2018; Jake Guenther, TCU, 2019.



Carroll Beringer Award: Chase Brown, UT Dallas, 2012; Elvin Rodriguez, Northwood, 2013; Jake Howeth, Texas Wesleyan, 2014; Brandon George, UT Dallas, 2015; Conner Combs, East Texas Baptist, 2016; Luis Roman, Texas Wesleyan, 2017; Kiki Menendez, Texas Wesleyan, 2018; Casey Combs, East Texas Baptist, 2019.

-SABR.org-



Bo Carter, Correspondent

National Football Foundation

4212 Harvest Hill Rd.

Carrollton, TX 75010

Cell: 214-418-6132

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on October 26, 2019, 12:49:15 PM
If "rumors" are indeed accurate, it sounds as if UW Eau Claire will be reinstating their baseball team in the near future...  This would be a nice addition for the WIAC, especially when you think of the amount of quality baseball talent around the Eau Claire area.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on October 26, 2019, 06:01:36 PM
That would be excellent if they do. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on October 28, 2019, 04:47:46 PM
 https://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2019/10/uw-eau-claire-brings-back-baseball (https://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2019/10/uw-eau-claire-brings-back-baseball)

It's official.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 29, 2019, 02:45:45 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on October 28, 2019, 04:47:46 PM
https://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2019/10/uw-eau-claire-brings-back-baseball (https://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2019/10/uw-eau-claire-brings-back-baseball)

It's official.
Would Finlandia still be permitted to affiliate?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on October 30, 2019, 12:18:23 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 29, 2019, 02:45:45 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on October 28, 2019, 04:47:46 PM
https://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2019/10/uw-eau-claire-brings-back-baseball (https://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2019/10/uw-eau-claire-brings-back-baseball)

It's official.
Would Finlandia still be permitted to affiliate?

Sure.  Geographically, Finlandia would be a better fit for the UMAC but to use Finlandia as just a bridge to a Pool A bid sounds disingenuous.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on October 31, 2019, 10:37:19 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 29, 2019, 02:45:45 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on October 28, 2019, 04:47:46 PM
https://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2019/10/uw-eau-claire-brings-back-baseball (https://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2019/10/uw-eau-claire-brings-back-baseball)

It’s official.
Would Finlandia still be permitted to affiliate?

I don't see a reason we wouldn't welcome them to remain.  But ultimately it will be their decision. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 31, 2019, 11:43:50 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on October 31, 2019, 10:37:19 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 29, 2019, 02:45:45 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on October 28, 2019, 04:47:46 PM
https://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2019/10/uw-eau-claire-brings-back-baseball (https://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2019/10/uw-eau-claire-brings-back-baseball)

It's official.
Would Finlandia still be permitted to affiliate?

I don't see a reason we wouldn't welcome them to remain.  But ultimately it will be their decision.
8 teams makes for a nice balanced schedule.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on November 01, 2019, 10:10:43 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 31, 2019, 11:43:50 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on October 31, 2019, 10:37:19 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 29, 2019, 02:45:45 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on October 28, 2019, 04:47:46 PM
https://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2019/10/uw-eau-claire-brings-back-baseball (https://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2019/10/uw-eau-claire-brings-back-baseball)

It’s official.
Would Finlandia still be permitted to affiliate?

I don't see a reason we wouldn't welcome them to remain.  But ultimately it will be their decision.
8 teams makes for a nice balanced schedule.

Exactly, it's to our benefit to have them remain.  I give their athletic department credit.  They may struggle but they don't shy away from competition.  Unlike many other programs in the state.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on November 19, 2019, 11:41:25 AM
Where does UW-Eau Claire turn for it's baseball coach? You'd think they'd be preparing to hire a coach soon so he has a chance to recruit incoming student-athletes for next fall in preparation for the 2021 return to the diamond.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on November 20, 2019, 12:29:38 PM
You'd think UWEC has to turn to Juco kids right away to give them ANY chance to be competitive in the WIAC in 2021. The big issue is that many Juco kids (and high school kids) are already committing with signing day happening last week.That really puts UWEC behind the 8-Ball on the recruiting trail.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on November 22, 2019, 12:48:06 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on November 20, 2019, 12:29:38 PM
You'd think UWEC has to turn to Juco kids right away to give them ANY chance to be competitive in the WIAC in 2021. The big issue is that many Juco kids (and high school kids) are already committing with signing day happening last week.That really puts UWEC behind the 8-Ball on the recruiting trail.

Maybe before a coach, they can add baseball to their athletics website.  It seems clear that they will not expect to challenge the top of the WIAC out of the blocks.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on November 25, 2019, 02:45:16 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on November 22, 2019, 12:48:06 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on November 20, 2019, 12:29:38 PM
You'd think UWEC has to turn to Juco kids right away to give them ANY chance to be competitive in the WIAC in 2021. The big issue is that many Juco kids (and high school kids) are already committing with signing day happening last week.That really puts UWEC behind the 8-Ball on the recruiting trail.

Maybe before a coach, they can add baseball to their athletics website.  It seems clear that they will not expect to challenge the top of the WIAC out of the blocks.

HA-Ha! I thought the same thing last week. You'd think they'd want as much traffic and interest around the new program as they can... if only for recruiting purposes.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on December 05, 2019, 12:10:02 PM
I am curious to see if UWEC hires a coach with connections to the Twin Cities... could be a recruiting gold mine for them with the right coach. They would be a able to pull from a huge metropolitan area that is about two hours away.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on December 06, 2019, 12:27:44 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on December 05, 2019, 12:10:02 PM
I am curious to see if UWEC hires a coach with connections to the Twin Cities... could be a recruiting gold mine for them with the right coach. They would be a able to pull from a huge metropolitan area that is about two hours away.

This explains all the success at UW-Stout.

On a different subject, does Wisconsin and Minnesota have a tuition sharing program where you can get in-state tuition from the neighboring state?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on December 06, 2019, 06:34:13 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on December 06, 2019, 12:27:44 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on December 05, 2019, 12:10:02 PM
I am curious to see if UWEC hires a coach with connections to the Twin Cities... could be a recruiting gold mine for them with the right coach. They would be a able to pull from a huge metropolitan area that is about two hours away.

This explains all the success at UW-Stout.

On a different subject, does Wisconsin and Minnesota have a tuition sharing program where you can get in-state tuition from the neighboring state?


Yes, for a long time.  A few years back Minnesota had issues with it but they worked it out and it's continued. Some Wisconsin schools also have it with Illinois.  That isn't a system wide thing though.  Also I believe Platteville has some sort of arrangement with Iowa focused on engineering students.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BDB on December 07, 2019, 10:33:58 AM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on December 06, 2019, 12:27:44 PM
This explains all the success at UW-Stout.

And no recruiting competition from UW-River Falls and previously UW-Eau Claire in the area. And as far as a coach with Minnesota connections there was a Gardenhire as head coach for some years. I have never understood the lack of success.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on December 09, 2019, 12:00:31 PM
Quote from: BlueDevil Bob on December 07, 2019, 10:33:58 AM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on December 06, 2019, 12:27:44 PM
This explains all the success at UW-Stout.

And no recruiting competition from UW-River Falls and previously UW-Eau Claire in the area. And as far as a coach with Minnesota connections there was a Gardenhire as head coach for some years. I have never understood the lack of success.

Agree 100%. No ideas why Stout didn't scoop up ALL of the local talent and venture into the Twin Cities once in a while.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on December 09, 2019, 12:38:52 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on December 06, 2019, 06:34:13 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on December 06, 2019, 12:27:44 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on December 05, 2019, 12:10:02 PM
I am curious to see if UWEC hires a coach with connections to the Twin Cities... could be a recruiting gold mine for them with the right coach. They would be a able to pull from a huge metropolitan area that is about two hours away.

This explains all the success at UW-Stout.

On a different subject, does Wisconsin and Minnesota have a tuition sharing program where you can get in-state tuition from the neighboring state?


Yes, for a long time.  A few years back Minnesota had issues with it but they worked it out and it's continued. Some Wisconsin schools also have it with Illinois.  That isn't a system wide thing though.  Also I believe Platteville has some sort of arrangement with Iowa focused on engineering students.   

Alaska is part of a west coast arrangement where out of state tuition is waived for several NW states.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 06, 2020, 08:23:39 AM
Question: If UW-Eau Claire has yet to name a baseball coach for the return of the sport in 2021, how can the school recruit players (who should be making their college choices in the next few months) so they can start to build a roster of student-athletes for the fall of 2020?

An honest observation. Or did they name one and I have just yet to see it somewhere?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on January 06, 2020, 09:18:20 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on January 06, 2020, 08:23:39 AM
Question: If UW-Eau Claire has yet to name a baseball coach for the return of the sport in 2021, how can the school recruit players (who should be making their college choices in the next few months) so they can start to build a roster of student-athletes for the fall of 2020?

An honest observation. Or did they name one and I have just yet to see it somewhere?


Their press release issued last October indicated they would begin the process of hiring "immediately."  As a state school they would have had to post the job for 30 days so that period has come and gone.  But like yourself I have yet to see or hear anything.

Just speaking for myself I don't think I'd want to come to a school a year in advance to when I would begin playing.  Wouldn't it commit you to a fifth year (at your expense) if you wanted to use the four years of eligibility you have coming?  Waiting a year when I could be playing somewhere else would be bad enough but the extra financial burden would be enough to turn me away. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 07, 2020, 10:48:34 AM
Unless I am wrong, they are scheduled to begin play in Spring of 2021... that would be next year... meaning they need to get those kids on campus for the fall of 2020. They are going to be way behind in terms of recruiting unless their new coach (whenever named) can hit the ground running and pull in some JuCo talent right away to compete in the WIAC.

The expansion of UW-Eau Claire's athletics teams will include the reinstatement of men's baseball (which was discontinued in 1995) and the addition of women's lacrosse in the spring 2021 season, as well as the addition of men's soccer in the fall 2021 season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 15, 2020, 09:54:11 AM
A well-placed source of mine informs me that UWEC will announce the new head coach to lead the resurrection of BluGold baseball in the next week or two.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 21, 2020, 11:58:22 AM
Progress! UWEC officially has a baseball website now (at least the framework for one, anyway).

https://www.blugolds.com/sports/bsb/index (https://www.blugolds.com/sports/bsb/index)

Anybody have an idea who is in the running for the head job? I'd assume a few WIAC assistants or MIAC assistants might have some interest.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on January 21, 2020, 12:02:38 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on January 21, 2020, 11:58:22 AM
Progress! UWEC officially has a baseball website now (at least the framework for one, anyway).

https://www.blugolds.com/sports/bsb/index (https://www.blugolds.com/sports/bsb/index)

Anybody have an idea who is in the running for the head job? I'd assume a few WIAC assistants or MIAC assistants might have some interest.

I think if someone knew something about who is interested in the job, and also reads these boards....they would have responded to your question 1 of the last 3 or 4 times you have asked it.  Nobody knows anything, everyone is waiting on the announcement.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 21, 2020, 01:30:50 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on January 21, 2020, 12:02:38 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on January 21, 2020, 11:58:22 AM
Progress! UWEC officially has a baseball website now (at least the framework for one, anyway).

https://www.blugolds.com/sports/bsb/index (https://www.blugolds.com/sports/bsb/index)

Anybody have an idea who is in the running for the head job? I'd assume a few WIAC assistants or MIAC assistants might have some interest.

I think if someone knew something about who is interested in the job, and also reads these boards....they would have responded to your question 1 of the last 3 or 4 times you have asked it.  Nobody knows anything, everyone is waiting on the announcement.

Fair point.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on February 03, 2020, 04:00:45 PM
@UWECblugolds give @UWECBaseball a follow....major announcement coming soon! #letswin @d3baseball

I suspect this tweet means a head coach hire.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: PauldingLightUP on February 05, 2020, 02:37:44 PM
Charles Bolden has just been announced as the UW-Eau Claire head coach. He is a former assistant at Illinois Tech.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on February 05, 2020, 03:16:04 PM
https://www.blugolds.com/sports/bsb/coaches/Charles_Bolden?view=bio
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on February 21, 2020, 05:27:14 PM
https://athletics.uwsp.edu/sports/baseball/roster/zack-haupt/11476 (https://athletics.uwsp.edu/sports/baseball/roster/zack-haupt/11476)

UWSP's roster is posted.  I don't see any names of note as far as newcomers go, another Jirschele special as far as recruiting goes.  UWSP picked to take 2nd to last in the conference after being a perennial power under Bloom, I'm sure Cubs will come on here and tell us all how Jirschele is doing a great job though.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 25, 2020, 12:07:26 AM
You literally can set your watch to it... and then it's like a record on repeat, only this time it starts in February instead of waiting until May.

For the record, I had UWSP (and UWO for that matter) missing the WIAC Tournament last season four games into their WIAC slate, but feel free to keep speaking for me though...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on February 26, 2020, 06:47:51 PM
The WARHAWKS opened the season with a quick trip to Louisville picking up a pair of wins (vs. Spaulding 11-0, Anderson 8-7) before dropping the final game (vs. Spaulding 6-8).  The team was suppose to play Heidelbery, Baldwin Wallace and Anderson in Indiana on the trip home however weather forced cancellation of all three games.

Noah Jensen hit .400 with 3 extra base hits including a home run and 7 RBI.   Alex Doud also drove in 7 runs and hit .364.  Nick Santoro and Ryan Norton each had 3 RBI.

Matt O'Sullivan picked up win #1 throwing 4 shut out innins allowing 3 hits and striking out 4 against Spaulding.   Evan Sigmund struck out a pair in 1.1 innings of relief for the win against Anderson.  Trey Bretl took the loss in the second Spaulding game in relief of Connor Morodor.

The team is off until 3/19. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 01, 2020, 09:00:14 PM
UWSP off to a wonderful start I see! I know it's been stated already but my God did anyone ever think this would be possible for the Pointers to have a program this bad? I looked over the roster and sure there are a couple good kids but the great pointer teams had 2-3 outstanding kids along with at least 3 absolute stud pitchers. They don't have anyone even close to a number 1 on this staff it's getting to point where I'm sorry but they may need to start over. Being a great baseball player and from a great baseball family doesn't automatically make you a great recruiter unfortunately. By no means can that all be blamed on the head coach but the talent level between now and 5 years ago is off the charts.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 21, 2020, 10:25:43 PM
Figured some might find this of interest....

A local amateur baseball game today saw a pair of WIAC Pitcher of the Year award winners and another two-time All WIAC pitcher take the mound over the course of nine innings. It started with 2012 Winner Cam Seidl squaring off against two time All-WIAC selection Colan Treml.  After Seidl and Treml did their thing for five and six innings respectively, 2014 winner Luke Watson took the mound for a pair of innings.  Needless to say, there wasn't much offense in the game, as the trio combined to give up just four hits, which were all allowed by Treml.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on July 23, 2020, 12:10:57 PM
UWSP got another big leaguer....JP Feyereisen has made the Brewers roster.  Congrats to him, cool to see.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on July 23, 2020, 01:27:12 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on July 23, 2020, 12:10:57 PM
UWSP got another big leaguer....JP Feyereisen has made the Brewers roster.  Congrats to him, cool to see.

Alas, I fear that Jordan Zimmermann's career may be over.  He is on the DL for the zillionth time, and will probably not pitch ever again for the Tigers.  With his persistent arm troubles, I'm not sure any team would sign him.  Well, we can always remember the magic of April-May 2016! :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on July 26, 2020, 11:00:49 PM
Nice article on former UW-La Crosse and 2016 WIAC Pitcher of the Year Caleb Boushley....

https://lacrossetribune.com/sports/local/uw-la-crosse-baseball-former-eagle-and-padres-prospect-caleb-boushley-remains-positive-without-milb/article_61912aca-35da-56ee-b512-a6e1ce1e740e.html#tracking-source=home-top-story-1
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: PauldingLightUP on November 05, 2020, 11:47:53 AM
Is there any information as to what is going on at UW-Stevens Point? The head baseball coach position was posted and open to applicants on October 30th and closes on November 13th. What is the status of Jeremy Jirschele? Jirschele is still listed as head baseball coach.  I have not seen any news outlet or UWSP athletics website post any news update about this. This appears to be a sudden opening?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on November 05, 2020, 12:03:53 PM
Quote from: PauldingLightUP on November 05, 2020, 11:47:53 AM
Is there any information as to what is going on at UW-Stevens Point? The head baseball coach position was posted and open to applicants on October 30th and closes on November 13th. What is the status of Jeremy Jirschele? Jirschele is still listed as head baseball coach.  I have not seen any news outlet or UWSP athletics website post any news update about this. This appears to be a sudden opening?

https://www.wsaw.com/2020/11/04/uwsp-baseball-makes-head-coaching-position-full-time/ (https://www.wsaw.com/2020/11/04/uwsp-baseball-makes-head-coaching-position-full-time/)

Looks like UWSP was able to make the baseball coach position a full time position, and due to semantics...had to post it as a job opening.  It does say that they are keeping Jirschele for now and he remains a candidate, which makes it sound like they are actually doing a coaching search.  Jirschele hasn't done anything to warrant keeping this position if you ask me, but I don't know what other options they would have at this point.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on December 10, 2020, 11:45:25 AM
https://athletics.uwsp.edu/news/2020/12/10/pointers-tap-richter-to-lead-uwsp-baseball-program.aspx
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on December 10, 2020, 12:33:29 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on December 10, 2020, 11:45:25 AM
https://athletics.uwsp.edu/news/2020/12/10/pointers-tap-richter-to-lead-uwsp-baseball-program.aspx

Interesting...glad there is a change to see if some new blood can improve the program.  The question I have now is will any of the current players quit the team and go elsewhere now that the coach who recruited them is gone.  Also, I would be curious as to who the candidates were for the position, probably something we will never find out.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: PauldingLightUP on February 14, 2021, 06:01:58 PM
Schedules for most teams have been recently posted. Teams are going to 20 doubleheaders against conference only opponents. Same divisions as basketball but Finlandia will be in the East and Platteville will be in the West.

Teams will play two doubleheaders against every conference opponent for 28 games in conference standings. Then you will play your division opponents for two additional doubleheaders for 12 games that will be treated as nonconference games and not count in standings.

Total of 40 games scheduled. It starts March 20. Interesting it looks like softball, golf, and tennis have the ability to schedule opponents not in the conference, but not baseball.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 17, 2021, 01:47:29 PM
Ex-Pointer pitcher JP Feyereisen  threw 1.2 hitless innings of relief with 3 Ks in the Brewers 7-2 win over LAD.   Feyereisen has appeared in five games pitching 5.2 scoreless innings with a 0.18 WHIP and 10 strikeouts.  Good luck to him.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 21, 2021, 09:32:29 AM
The 18th ranked WARHAWKS open the 2021 season with a twin bill sweep of Stevens Point 9-4 and 6-4.  The WARHAWKSW jumped on top in a big way with six runs in their first at bat in game one.  Scoring runs on a bases loaded walk, followed by a 3 RBI double from Zach Campbell and after the next batter was HBP another double from Taylor White which drove in a pair.  Adding a single run in the 3rd on asingle from Bryan Sturdevant  push the lead to 7-0 before Point countered with three runs in the fifth cutting the WARHAWKS lead to 7-3.  The WARHAWKS added single runs in the seventh with an single by Tucker Criswell and in the eighth on a solo shot from Ryan Norton.  Point finished the scoring with an sacrifice fly in the ninth.  Westin Muir went 4 scoreless innings allowing a single hit and striking out 7.  Freshman Nick Cairo picked up the win with 3 innings allowing 3 hits, 3 runs and striking out a pair.  Connor Mordor finished the final two innings surrending 3 hits, 1 run and s single strikeout. 

Point jumped out early with a 2-0 lead early int game two with a two run shot off starter Matt O'Sullivan.  A pair of runs by the WARHAWKS on a passed ball and sacrifice ground out in the fourth tied the game.  The WARHAWKS took the lead in the fifth on Nick Santoro's RBI single and added insurance runs in the sixth with a sacrifice fly by Korman, and a wild pitch.  The final WARHAWKS run scored in the eighth on a sacrifice fly from Donovan Brandl.  Point got it's final pair of runs in the ninth on an RBI double and an error.  O'Sullivan picked up the win allowing 4 hits and a pair of runs while striking out 10 in six innings.  Kade Lancour pitched two innings of hitless ball striking out a pair and Connor Spear finished the final two innings allowing 2 runs on 2 hits and recording a single strikeout.

In other action around the league Oshkosh swept Findlandia 17-3 and 15-0, LaCrosse took two from Eau Claire 13-0 and 16-6 and Platteville split with Stout losing game one 19-2 before rebounding in game two 11-6. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 24, 2021, 11:09:08 PM
After beating Oshkosh by run rule 14-2 the WARHAWKS finished the twin bill with a walk off 4-3 win.  Oshkosh struck first in game one with a pair of runs in the top of the second but the WARHAWKS responded in a big way with 6 in their half of the inning.  Jacob DeMeyers double drove in a run and Zach Campbell's single another.  Two runs scored on wild pitches and another pair after  a Titan throwing error.  Eight more WARHAWKS runs scored in the fifth.  Another Titan throwing error led to the first run.  Doubles by Campbell (2) and Matt Korman (3) with Donovan Brandl's RBI single sandwiched between accounted for the others.  Brandl got the win allowing 5 hits, 2 runs, 3 walks and 7 strikeouts in six innings.  Connor Mordor finished the game allowing a single hit and striking out the side in the seventh.

Game two started a pitcher's duel to begin.  Neither team scored in the first four innings.  During that stretch the Titans only had a single base runner while the WARHAWKS loaded the bases with one out in the third but a pair of strikeouts ended that without a run being scored.  Ian Drays singled in a run in the WARHAWKS fifth and that lead held until the Titans took the lead on a two run home run in the eighth.  Ryan Norton answered that with a two run home run of his own in the bottom of the inning putting the WARHAWKS back in the lead 3-2 but that lead was short lived as the Titans rallied for a run on a solo home run to tie the game in their ninth.   With two outs in their final at bat Taylor Criswell doubled and Korman followed by drawing a walk.  After the Titans made a pitching change both Criswell and Korman advanced on a passed ball.  While preparing to pitch to Nick Santoro the Titan reliever forced in the winning run with a balk.   Connor Spear allowed just four hits, struck out six with a single walk in six scoreless innings.  Nick Cairo surrendered all three Titan runs in 1.1 innings allowing three hits with a walk and strikeout.  Mordor got the win after getting the final pair of Titan outs drawing a ground out double play.

Elsewhere in the league Point took both ends 10-0, 6-1.  LaCrosse swept Stout 11-5, 6-1 and Platteville got a pair from Eau Claire 7-2, 11-3. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 27, 2021, 11:35:19 AM
WARHAWKS pitchers allowed two hits and threw fourteen scoreless innings sweeping Findlandia 14-0 and 10-0.  Weston Muir (2-0) surrendered a single in the second inning and faced 17 batters in 5 innings, striking out 7 to pick up the win.  Matt Korman drove in 5 runs on a pair of singles and a double while Jacob DeMeyer drove in three to lead the WARHAWKS offense which finished with 17 hits.  Ben Muscatello pitched the final two frames striking out three.

Matt O'Sullivan (2-0) was perfect through 6 1/3 striking out the first 13 batters he faced in game two.  O'Sullivan finished with 17 strikeouts tying Matt Katska for the second most in program history.  He also faced the minimum 21 batters in pitching a complete game.  Connor Mordor, Nick Santoro and Ryan Norton led the offense each recording a pair of RBI.  Norton's coming on a home run. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on March 28, 2021, 09:00:09 AM
Tough to be Finlandia. four runs in six games and all their games on the road.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 29, 2021, 02:56:00 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on March 28, 2021, 09:00:09 AM
Tough to be Finlandia. four runs in six games and all their games on the road.

This is their last season of affiliation with the WIAC.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on March 30, 2021, 10:37:04 AM
It will be no better in the Coast 2 Coast but the WIAC does not need them anymore as a seventh team.  One might think that staying Pool B would have been to their benefit.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 30, 2021, 03:29:01 PM
I don't believe that it was ever their intention to be anything other than a temporary WIAC affiliate.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 31, 2021, 05:10:17 PM
WARHAWKS beat LaCrosse 9-2 in game one.  Plating five runs on four hits, three walks, a fielders choice and a wild pitch the WARHAWKS would get all the runs they needed in their first at bat.  Moroder, Santoro, Norton and DeMeyer each had RBIs in the inning.  The Eagles would get on the board with a single run in the fifth on a single by Kelly.  But the WARHAWKS were quick to answer matching the run with one of their own when Korman singled in the bottom of the inning.  LaCrosse struck again scoring a run in the seventh but again the WARHAWKS response was swift and added an extra pair when Korman had another single and Santoro scored when the WARHAWKS pulled off a successful double steal.  The final WARHAWKS run came in the eighth on Brandl's single up the middle.  DeMeyers 3 hits paced the offense while Campbell, Brandl and Korman each had a pair.  Westin Muir (3-0) went 7 innings surrendering 8 hits, 2 runs with a pair of walks and 6 strikeouts.  Spear finished the final two innings allowing a run on a hit and pair of walks with a single strikeout.  The two teams combined for 23 hits, all singles.

LaCrosse led 2-0 early in game two but the WARHAWKS bats came alive in the third with 4 runs on 4 hits, a wild pitch, two Eagle errors and a ground out.  Matt Korman's two run jack was the big hit of the inning.  Sam Vomhof's single also scored a run the inning.  4-2 stood to the fifth when Vomhof got a second RBI with another single increasing the WARHAWKS advantage to 5-2.  Korman hit his second two run home run in the seventh pushing the lead to five 7-2. After Vomhof led off with a triple in the eighth he scored the final WARHAWKS on Ben Wilkin's sacrifice fly.  LaCrosse got a run in the ninth.   O'Sullivan got the win allowing 2 runs on 5 hits and striking out 7 in 7 innings.  Mordor finished the final 2 innings allowing 1 run on 1 hit with a walk and a pair of strikeouts.   

The two teams play again Friday in LaDrosse.

Oshkosh took both games from Eau Claire 17-4 and 5-4.  Stout and Stevens Point were postponed till tomorrow. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 04, 2021, 12:10:27 PM
It appears as though it will be a battle between Eau Claire and Finlandia for the cellar, although I think UWEC shouldn't have a problem avoiding a last place finish....  With that said, I'd guess Whitewater, La Crosse, Platteville, Stevens Point, Oshkosh, and possibly even Stout should all go 8-0 against the pair.  If one of them happens to lose a game to either Eau Claire or Finlandia, it might be the difference between playing on the road versus at home in the #3 vs #6 or #4 vs #5 single elimination "play-in" games for the WIAC Tournament.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2021, 03:19:32 PM
The WARHAWKS improve to 11-2, 5-1 with a 6-5 extra inning opener and a 9-5 finisher over Oshkosh.  The Titans got a home run off starter Westin Muir in the third inning to go on top 1-0.  A wild pitch allowed the WARHAWKS to tie the score in the fifth.  A pair of runs in both the sixth and seventh built a WARHAWKS to 5-1.  Extra base hits by Sandoro (2b) and Vomhof (3b) accounted for the sixth inning pair while Vomhof's sac fly and Norton's double scored the pair in the seventh.  Oshkosh's offense became active with a run in the seventh, a pair in the eighth and another in the ninth sending the game to extra innings.   After the Titans left the bases loaded in the tenth the WARHAWKS scored when DeMeyer scored after he and Santoro teamed up for consecutive two out hits.  Muir allowed 4 hits, 1 run (earned), 2 walks and 9 strikeouts in 6 innings.  Muscatello went 1.1 inning allowing 3 runs (earned) on 3 hits, 1 walk and 3 strikeouts.  Moroder picked up his second win allowing 4 hits, 1 run (earned) with 3 walks and 5 strikouts in the final 3.2 innings. 

Santoro got game two off to a interesting start with a 3 run inside the park home run but the Titans answered with a pair in the bottom of the inning.  3-2 stood until the Korman's sac fly added a run to the WARHAWKS lead.  The lead was increased to 6-2 when DeMeyer homered in the eighth.  -Like game one the Titans struck late and cut the lead to 6-5 in the bottom of the inning on a home run.  But the WARHAWKS put the game away with 3 runs in the ninth.  A fielding error and balk accounted for two of the runs while Brandl's single scored the other.  O'Sullivan picked up his fourth win allowing 6 hits, 2 runs (earned) with 3 walks and 7 strikeouts in 7 innings.  Kade Lancour allowed 3 runs (earned) on 4 hits and struck out 1 in an inning.  Brandl pitched a shutout inning with a hit and strikeout to finish the game.

LaCrosse won both ends of their twin bill with Platteville 18-6, 13-6.  Stout led Eau Claire 7-1 in the 6th in game one when the series was postponed.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2021, 03:31:51 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 04, 2021, 12:10:27 PM
It appears as though it will be a battle between Eau Claire and Finlandia for the cellar, although I think UWEC shouldn't have a problem avoiding a last place finish....  With that said, I'd guess Whitewater, La Crosse, Platteville, Stevens Point, Oshkosh, and possibly even Stout should all go 8-0 against the pair.  If one of them happens to lose a game to either Eau Claire or Finlandia, it might be the difference between playing on the road versus at home in the #3 vs #6 or #4 vs #5 single elimination "play-in" games for the WIAC Tournament.

Eau Claire has had a couple close losses (3-1 Stout and 5-4 Oshkosh).  Findlandia's best loss is 6-3 to Platteville.  Otherwise many losses are run ruled.  I give Eau Claire the edge between the two.  Findlandia is headed out of the league after this year so it doesn't much matter.  Given circumstances I can see Eau Claire winning a game along the way.  I don't really see Findlandia doing that.  Neither of these will be involved in the playoffs other than perhaps to upset someone and change the higher seeding.   But as a baseball and a WIAC guy it's great to see Eau Claire back on the diamond.  Good luck to them and Findlandia wherever they are headed.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 09, 2021, 08:53:51 PM
Donovan Brandl went the distance and shutout the Titans 15-0 allowing just 2 hits, walking 3 and striking out 10 in the run rule shortened game one.  The WARHAWKS had 18 hits including 9 doubles.  Eight WARHAWKS hitters had multiple hits and seven, led by White and DeMeyer's 3, drove in runs.  This one was over immediately.

The Titans struck first with a solo home run in their first at bat of game two.  However the WARHAWKS tied the game on a groundout in the second and took a 2-1 lead with a Vomhoff single in the third.  The game took a turn in the fourth however when the Oshkosh head coach was ejected after arguing all three out calls in the inning.  The ejection fired up the Titans and in the fifth their bats took it out on starting pitcher Conner Spear with a pair of home runs taking a 4-2 lead.  Another Titan home run in the sixth increased the lead to 5-2.  However the WARHAWKS took the lead with 6 runs in the eighth on 3 singles and a triple.  The WARHAWKS offense generated 14 hits bringing the two game total to 32 hits without a home run.  The Titans were held to 7 four of which were home runs.  Sturdevant  led the offense with 3 hits.  Spear went 5 allowing 5 runs (earned) on 4 hits with 3 walks and 10 strikeout.  Mordor picked up his 3rd win of the season by pitching  the final four innings allowing a single hit with a strikeout and pair of walks. 

Both games were conference games today.  Tomorrow the two teams meet again in Oshkosh for a nonconference twin bill. 

Stevens Point beat Findlandia three times today 5-1, 11-3 and 5-1.  Stout swept Eau Claire 22-3 and 10-3.  LaCrosse beat Platteville twice 11-3 and 11-4.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 10, 2021, 06:10:33 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 09, 2021, 08:53:51 PM
Stevens Point beat Findlandia three times today 5-1, 11-3 and 5-1.
Pretty sure they only played twice....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 10, 2021, 07:40:22 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 10, 2021, 06:10:33 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 09, 2021, 08:53:51 PM
Stevens Point beat Findlandia three times today 5-1, 11-3 and 5-1.
Pretty sure they only played twice....

Thx, I thought that was odd and the two games had an identical score.  I just didn't take the time to check the box scores. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 14, 2021, 04:41:37 PM
Westin Muir (4-0) allowed a single unearned run on 4 hits with 9 strikeouts in 8 complete innings leading the WARHAWKS to a 5-1 win in today's first game.  The Pioneers got on the board early with a run in their first at bat and held that lead into the fifth when Wilkins drove in the first WARHAWKS run and later scored himself on a wild pitch to make it 2-1.  The WARHAWKS added 3 insurance runs in the sixth on DeMeyer's sac fly, a Pioneer error and Korman's single. Santoro, Wilkins and Drays each had a pair of hits which included a double. DeMeyer, Wilkins, Santoro and Korman all drove in runs.  Muscatello allowed a hit finishing up in the ninth. 

WARHAWKS starting pitching continued to dominate the day in game two when O'Sullivan (5-0) pitched 8 scoreless innings allowing 4 hits and striking out 14 Pioneers.  Korman singled and doubled in the second and third innings driving in four runs to power the offense.  DeMeyer's single in the fourth drove in another and Campbell pushed a pair across with a double in the fifth to end the scoring.  Korman with 3 hits and Campbell with 2 each had a multiple hit day. 

WARHAWKS (15-2, 9-1) extend their winning streak to 7.  The two teams meet again Saturday.

The rest:  LaCrosse took a pair from Platteville 11-1, 10-6 on Tuesday and then lost a pair to Stevens Point 11-2 and 11-8 yesterday.  Oshkosh split with Stout  losing the opener 5-0 before taking game two 9-1.

Standings:
UW-Whitewater   9-1  15-2  W7
UW-Stevens Point   9-1  14-3  W7   
UW-Stout           6-4  9-7  L1
UW-La Crosse   5-5  12-6  L2
UW-Oshkosh   5-5  7-9  W1
UW-Platteville   4-6  8-10  L8
UW-Eau Claire   0-8   0-14    L14
Finlandia   0-8  0-15  L15
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 18, 2021, 07:25:36 PM
The WARHAWKS made it a weekend sweep of the Pioneers taking both games yesterday by scores of 4-3 and 5-2.  Platteville took an early 1-0 lead with a run in the first on a groundout.  But White's two run home run gave the WARHAWKS the lead in the second and a wild pitch later in the inning push the lead to 3-1.  That lead grew to 4-1 in the fourth when Campbell drove in a run with a single.  Platteville battled back with a single run in both the fifth and the eighth but Mordor struck out a pair and coaxed a ground out to end the threat in the ninth.  Santoro, White and Norton led the 11 hit offense with two hits apiece.  Brandl (3-1) got the win allowing 5 hits and 2 runs (earned) while striking 10 in 7 innings.  Muscatello allowed a run (earned) on  2 hits and struck out a pair in the eighth.  Mordor finished with a 1-2-3 ninth striking out two. 

As was the case in game one Platteville scored first with an unearned run in the third but Brandl's double in the fifth tied the game and White's second two run home run of the day put the WARHAWKS ahead for good 3-1 in the sixth and Vomhoff's single plated another pair in the eighth.  Platteville got on the board with an unearned run in the ninth before an infield groundout ended the game.  Spears (2-0)struck out 10 allowing just 3 hits and an unearned run in seven innings.  Lacour allowed a single hit and got a strikeout in the eighth.  Bretl allowed the unearned run in the ninth. 

Elsewhere:

Eau Claire broke into the win column beating Findlandia four times by scores of 2-0, 18-8 on Friday and 3-0 and 5-3 on Saturday.  Stevens Point did it's part to make this week's matchups with WHITEWATER a battle for first place by beating LaCrosse 8-3 and 12-9.  Oshkosh and Stout split with the Blue Devils winning the first game 7-4 and the Titan's game two 12-9. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 20, 2021, 04:23:31 PM
WARHAWKS take run rule shortened game one over the Pointers 11-1 in seven innings.  The game was decided early as the WARHAWKS] plated 10 runners in their first two at bats.  White and Criswell each hit solo homeruns, DeMeyer hit a two run home run, Vomhoff drove in a pair with a single and White drove in another run in his second at bat of the inning.  The seven first inning runs were followed by 3 more in the second inning.  Santoro tripled to drive in a pair and a sac fly by DeMeyer scored the third run.  The Pointers got on the board in the fourth with a solo home run off Simmons bat.  The scoring concluded when the WARHAWKS got a single run on Santoro's homerin the seventh.  Muir (5-0) pitched a complete game allowing the single earned run on 3 hits, a walk and eight strikeouts.  Led by Santoro and DeMeyer with three apiece the WARHAWKS offense had 14 hits.  White, Criswell and Korman also had multiple hit games with each getting a pair.

The Pointers got on the board first in game two with a triple from Simmons that included a throwing error allowing him to score in their first at bat.  Criswell tied the game with his second solo home run of the day in the third but the WARHAWKS missed an opportunity to add runs when we left the bases loaded.  The Pointers took control of the game for good in the fourth with five runs which included a three run dinger by Comer.  The WARHAWKS would add single runs in the fifth on a single by Wilkins and in the ninth with a solo home run from Campbell.  The Pointers also had added a run in the seventh.  Muscatello took the loss allowing 6 runs (earned) on 5 hits with a walk and 4 strikeouts.  Mordor allowed a single run (earned) on 4 hits with a walk and 4 strikeouts in 4.1 innings of relief.  Husboe finished the final 0.2 innings with a single strikeout. 

The two teams meet again Friday.

In the rest of the league LaCrosse beat Stout twice 6-0 and 14-6.  Platteville took a pair from Eau Claire 8-2 and 10-4. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: PauldingLightUP on April 23, 2021, 06:28:36 PM
Very curious if the WIAC schools (primarily Whitewater) will be allowed by the conference and UW System to submit to host the predetermined regionals and super regionals.

Bids said to announced next week. Excited to seed these awarded for baseball and softball.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: PauldingLightUP on April 30, 2021, 12:05:17 PM
Pat and Jim, the top six teams are qualifying the for WIAC tournament this year, which is incorrectly stated on the d3b Playoff Central page.

https://wiacsports.com/news/2021/3/17/2021-wiac-baseball-preview.aspx

4v5 and 3v6 on May 19 for single games.

Then double elimination at UWW on 21st and 22nd.

Unless, maybe you all have heard different from the league, please correct me.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on May 02, 2021, 09:05:24 PM
Quote from: PauldingLightUP on April 30, 2021, 12:05:17 PM
Pat and Jim, the top six teams are qualifying the for WIAC tournament this year, which is incorrectly stated on the d3b Playoff Central page.

https://wiacsports.com/news/2021/3/17/2021-wiac-baseball-preview.aspx

4v5 and 3v6 on May 19 for single games.

Then double elimination at UWW on 21st and 22nd.

Unless, maybe you all have heard different from the league, please correct me.

Thanks for the info
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 03, 2021, 11:08:34 PM
Is this the best pointer offense since Jordan Zimmerman's freshman year or is the competition not all that great? Sure looks like Simmons, Nelson, and Comer are one of the top 2-4 hitters in the nation.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 12, 2021, 11:58:26 PM
Eau Claire gets their first WIAC win against someone other than Finlandia, and they do it in stunning fashion!

Not only did they defeat Whitewater, who was recently ranked the #1 team in the Midwest Region, they did it via the "mercy rule" winning 11-1 in seven innings.  To top it off, they defeated previously unbeaten Westin Muir, who entered the contest with a perfect 7-0 record.

To say this result was the most surprising of the 2021 WIAC Baseball season might be a bit of an understatement!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 14, 2021, 12:07:58 AM
Nat Richter coach of year anyone??? Wasn't Point picked to finish behind Finladia this year and here their the best team in the WIAC?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 14, 2021, 12:10:31 AM
One things for sure I won't ever look at d3 baseball top 25 again zero credibility not having UWSP in the top 25 when their in first in the best conference in country and split with the supposed number 4 team. That was my laugh for the week I'd like to know a team that can put a lineup out like Points it's not happening.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 14, 2021, 12:29:53 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 14, 2021, 12:07:58 AM
Nat Richter coach of year anyone??? Wasn't Point picked to finish behind Finladia this year and here their the best team in the WIAC?
There wasn't a WIAC preseason poll, so I'm not sure where you are getting that from....

As far as "best team in the WIAC", since they are tied with Whitewater, couldn't the Warhawks also say the same thing?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on May 14, 2021, 09:24:11 AM
UWSP isn't the best team in the WIAC, that still belongs to Whitewater.  Yes, they are tied in the standings but UWSP can't compete with the pitching depth that Whitewater has.  Lets not forget that Whitewater is 4-0 over the Pointers in non-conference matchups.

With that being said, I am definitely pleasantly surprised with this years team considering it is mostly made up of holdovers from Jirschele's poor teams.  The last full season in 2019, a lot of these same players managed to lose a game to Finlandia.  Richter definitely deserves Coach of the Year and Jirschele deserves more criticism than I even give him.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 14, 2021, 04:51:14 PM
Regardless of the tie breaker and seeding WHITEWATER will host the conference tournament.  My understanding is that the same spectator policy that applied during the season will be enforce for the conference tournament.   Unless, of course, it changes between now and then. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: KitchenSink on May 14, 2021, 11:23:52 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 14, 2021, 04:51:14 PM
Regardless of the tie breaker and seeding WHITEWATER will host the conference tournament.  My understanding is that the same spectator policy that applied during the season will be enforce for the conference tournament.   Unless, of course, it changes between now and then.

What is the spectator policy? Crossed my mind to maybe check out the conf tourn if the weather is nice.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 16, 2021, 12:33:46 AM
Pointers are the 1 seed for Wiac tourney and aren't ranked but Whitewater is #4 in nation and seeded 2.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 16, 2021, 05:56:13 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 16, 2021, 12:33:46 AM
Pointers are the 1 seed for Wiac tourney and aren't ranked but Whitewater is #4 in nation and seeded 2.
Maybe because Stevens Point is 2-6 against Whitewater on the season?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 16, 2021, 11:36:21 PM
By no means am I saying Whitewater shouldn't be ranked or Point should be in front of them. My point is they are a 30 win team who tied for first in the wiac and their not ranked in top 25 and it's a joke. There's no way the Pointers with the offense they have along with having an elite ace in Schultz that their not at least 20-25th best team.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on May 17, 2021, 08:57:56 AM
Expectations for UWW is why they are ranked and UWSP is not.  Hard to move up the poll when the season is shorter when your expectations were low.  Check out La Roche who is fighting to get into the top 25 with just one loss.

Quote from: ShineTime on May 16, 2021, 11:36:21 PM
By no means am I saying Whitewater shouldn't be ranked or Point should be in front of them. My point is they are a 30 win team who tied for first in the wiac and their not ranked in top 25 and it's a joke. There's no way the Pointers with the offense they have along with having an elite ace in Schultz that their not at least 20-25th best team.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: sconsin fan on May 17, 2021, 02:35:59 PM
Speaking of UWW and UWSP, does anyone know why UWSP is the #1 seed and UWW #2 in the WIAC tournament?  Not a big issue, just curious, since I thought head-to-head record was the first tie breaker used.  Both teams very impressive!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 17, 2021, 03:00:39 PM
Point and Whitewater split in conference games but Whitewater went 4-0 in no conference games. I'm not sure but believe it may be due to Whitewater losing to Eau Claire and Point losing to Stout with Stout finishing higher in conference.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 17, 2021, 03:04:50 PM
Quote from: sconsin fan on May 17, 2021, 02:35:59 PM
Speaking of UWW and UWSP, does anyone know why UWSP is the #1 seed and UWW #2 in the WIAC tournament?  Not a big issue, just curious, since I thought head-to-head record was the first tie breaker used.  Both teams very impressive!
Head-to-head is the first tiebreaker, and the teams split their four WIAC games (the NC games aren't part of the tiebreaker.)

Next tiebreaker is record against opponents in order of final standings...  Since La Crosse finished in 3rd place, they are the first team to look at and Stevens Point went 4-0 against the Eagles while Whitewater went 3-1.  That in turn meant Stevens Point earned the #1 seed while Whitewater gets the #2 seed.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 17, 2021, 03:07:07 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 17, 2021, 03:00:39 PM
Point and Whitewater split in conference games but Whitewater went 4-0 in no conference games. I'm not sure but believe it may be due to Whitewater losing to Eau Claire and Point losing to Stout with Stout finishing higher in conference.
Nope....  The loss to Eau Claire wouldn't even come into the picture until after La Crosse, Stout, Oshkosh, and Platteville were looked at.

See above for the breakdown....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: sconsin fan on May 17, 2021, 04:46:27 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 17, 2021, 03:04:50 PM

Head-to-head is the first tiebreaker, and the teams split their four WIAC games (the NC games aren't part of the tiebreaker.)

Next tiebreaker is record against opponents in order of final standings...  Since La Crosse finished in 3rd place, they are the first team to look at and Stevens Point went 4-0 against the Eagles while Whitewater went 3-1.  That in turn meant Stevens Point earned the #1 seed while Whitewater gets the #2 seed.

Thank you - mystery solved - makes perfect sense to me now.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 21, 2021, 05:03:37 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 03, 2021, 11:08:34 PM
Is this the best pointer offense since Jordan Zimmerman's freshman year or is the competition not all that great? Sure looks like Simmons, Nelson, and Comer are one of the top 2-4 hitters in the nation.
If the Pointer offense is as strong as you claim, I don't think we would have seen today's result....  They were shutout and held to four hits against a pitcher who saw opponents hit .345 against him this season entering today.

Oh, and the 15-0 "mercy rule" loss to the #4 seed might answer your question as to why the voters had Stevens Point unranked this season...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 21, 2021, 10:26:14 PM
They at least came back and pounded a good LaCrosse team and put up 12 runs. If they beat Stout tomorrow and then lose to Whitewater i don't see any way a 32 win UWSP team doesn't make regionals. Is the Stout loss today embarrassing and a huge blow yes absolutely but even with mediocre pitching I wouldn't want To face the Pointers with that lineup. Has to be the best offense in all of d3 top to bottom no easy outs.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 22, 2021, 12:27:28 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 21, 2021, 10:26:14 PM
They at least came back and pounded a good LaCrosse team and put up 12 runs. If they beat Stout tomorrow and then lose to Whitewater i don't see any way a 32 win UWSP team doesn't make regionals. Is the Stout loss today embarrassing and a huge blow yes absolutely but even with mediocre pitching I wouldn't want To face the Pointers with that lineup. Has to be the best offense in all of d3 top to bottom no easy outs.
With Stevens Point being ranked #6 in the latest Midwest Regional Rankings, and there only being six Pool B/C bids this year, the only way they are making the Regionals this year is by winning three straight Saturday and Sunday against Stout and Whitewater.
You already have the #1 ranked team in the West (Trinity, TX) likely claiming on of those six bids, and the #4 team in the South (Berry) also losing out on their Pool A bid puts them in the conversation as well.

When a quarter of your wins (8) are against a team that went 0-37, it does a number on your SOS, especially in a year like this where there weren't any Spring Trips to see some of those usual inter-region match-ups.  When you look at it from an intra-region aspect, it's possible the #1 (St. Thomas) and #3 (Gustavus Adolphus) will also be looking for one of those precious few Pool C bids too, as St. Thomas needs to beat St. Mary's twice tomorrow to secure the MIAC Tournament crown.  You also could be looking at having the #2 and #3 Central Region teams (North Central and Augustana) in the Pool C conversation as well, as Augustana was already eliminated from the CCIW tournament and North Central is in the same position as Stevens Point in needing to win three straight to win the Pool A bid.

Again, it's Pool A or nothing for Stevens Point....  You can bet the farm on it!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 22, 2021, 09:02:58 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 21, 2021, 10:26:14 PM
They at least came back and pounded a good LaCrosse team and put up 12 runs. If they beat Stout tomorrow and then lose to Whitewater i don't see any way a 32 win UWSP team doesn't make regionals. Is the Stout loss today embarrassing and a huge blow yes absolutely but even with mediocre pitching I wouldn't want To face the Pointers with that lineup. Has to be the best offense in all of d3 top to bottom no easy outs.

They aren't even the best offense top to bottom in the league let alone the country.  Nationally Point's offense, top to bottom, ranks 131st in BA, WW is 2nd and LaCrosse is 18th.  In total hits WW leads the nation and LaCrosse is 2nd.  Point is tied for 54th.  In runs scored LaCrosse is tied for 2nd, WW is 6th and Point is 44th.  Aside from your myopic bias what criteria have you used because I can't find any that would support what you've suggested.  I give Point credit for their turnaround this season. My understanding is that private money has made the coaching position full time.  No teaching just recruit and coach.  That will be significant.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 22, 2021, 03:12:43 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 22, 2021, 12:27:28 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 21, 2021, 10:26:14 PM
They at least came back and pounded a good LaCrosse team and put up 12 runs. If they beat Stout tomorrow and then lose to Whitewater i don't see any way a 32 win UWSP team doesn't make regionals. Is the Stout loss today embarrassing and a huge blow yes absolutely but even with mediocre pitching I wouldn't want To face the Pointers with that lineup. Has to be the best offense in all of d3 top to bottom no easy outs.
With Stevens Point being ranked #6 in the latest Midwest Regional Rankings, and there only being six Pool B/C bids this year, the only way they are making the Regionals this year is by winning three straight Saturday and Sunday against Stout and Whitewater.
You already have the #1 ranked team in the West (Trinity, TX) likely claiming on of those six bids, and the #4 team in the South (Berry) also losing out on their Pool A bid puts them in the conversation as well.

When a quarter of your wins (8) are against a team that went 0-37, it does a number on your SOS, especially in a year like this where there weren't any Spring Trips to see some of those usual inter-region match-ups.  When you look at it from an intra-region aspect, it's possible the #1 (St. Thomas) and #3 (Gustavus Adolphus) will also be looking for one of those precious few Pool C bids too, as St. Thomas needs to beat St. Mary's twice tomorrow to secure the MIAC Tournament crown.  You also could be looking at having the #2 and #3 Central Region teams (North Central and Augustana) in the Pool C conversation as well, as Augustana was already eliminated from the CCIW tournament and North Central is in the same position as Stevens Point in needing to win three straight to win the Pool A bid.

Again, it's Pool A or nothing for Stevens Point....  You can bet the farm on it!

Also you cannot forget the #1 seed in New England Eastern Conn with a 32-6 record getting a pool "C" bid....4 of those 6 losses came to the #2 seed USM who got the pool A: they also beat USM 3 times as well
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 23, 2021, 10:29:09 PM
What a bummer that UWSP isn't going to make regionals given their record and the wealth of talent they have. They would undoubtedly win 5 of the 8 projected regionals on d3 baseballs projections.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hockeyfan77 on May 24, 2021, 12:11:12 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 23, 2021, 10:29:09 PM
What a bummer that UWSP isn't going to make regionals given their record and the wealth of talent they have. They would undoubtedly win 5 of the 8 projected regionals on d3 baseballs projections.

LOL, out of curiosity which ones? 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 24, 2021, 09:30:09 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 23, 2021, 10:29:09 PM
What a bummer that UWSP isn't going to make regionals given their record and the wealth of talent they have. They would undoubtedly win 5 of the 8 projected regionals on d3 baseballs projections.

You'd have been better off to just remain silent like you have all season than to come out with some of the nonsense you've spouted in the past week or so.           

Love the "undoubtedly" thing.   ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: PauldingLightUP on May 25, 2021, 04:03:12 PM
Interesting no spectator limits in Whitewater this weekend, but there were last weekend.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: KitchenSink on May 31, 2021, 03:53:22 PM
2nd day in a row stupidly sending a starter out in the ninth with nothing. 130+ pitches, giving the games away.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 31, 2021, 05:08:58 PM
Quote from: KitchenSink on May 31, 2021, 03:53:22 PM
2nd day in a row stupidly sending a starter out in the ninth with nothing. 130+ pitches, giving the games away.
Pacific relieved their starter to begin the 6th leading, 4-1. The reliever gives up 4 runs on 4 hits with no outs in a 5-run St Thomas 6th.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: KitchenSink on May 31, 2021, 06:30:36 PM
Did he throw 140 pitches, too?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 31, 2021, 07:07:03 PM
Quote from: KitchenSink on May 31, 2021, 03:53:22 PM
2nd day in a row stupidly sending a starter out in the ninth with nothing. 130+ pitches, giving the games away.
One could argue that O'Sullivan was pulled too "early?"  Rainey was 0x4 against O'Sullivan and promptly ties the game as he finally faces a different pitcher (Muir.)

Definitely not the "best" strategy, but once it was decided to send him back out for the 9th inning, why not let him face one more batter, especially when you go to a guy that hadn't pitched in relief all season?  It's a totally different animal coming on in relief vs getting your normal 15-20 minute routine as a starting pitcher.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on May 31, 2021, 09:28:44 PM
Aaron Simmons announced on his Instagram that he would be back for UWSP next season and using the extra year, hopefully Payton Nelson follows suit.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 31, 2021, 09:46:46 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on May 31, 2021, 09:28:44 PM
Aaron Simmons announced on his Instagram that he would be back for UWSP next season and using the extra year.
Must've been the successful Memorial Day weekend in Navarino that helped make the decision!  Simmons was named the tournament MVP after Kewaskum knocked off Navarino (and fellow Pointer Kyle Finger) in the Championship Game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 31, 2021, 11:13:40 PM
I'm shocked Simmons is coming back seeing the Pointers got robbed of not making regionals. After seeing how regionals went one could argue the Pointers may have won 6 or 7 of the regionals if their bats were anywhere near what they were during the season. Don't get the hate on UWSP it's embarrassing that 10-15 of the 48 teams that made regionals were there the pointers without a doubt would've mercy ruled several teams.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 31, 2021, 11:15:09 PM
Whitewater losing to Adrian has to sting I can't imagine anyone seen the hawks losing to anyone in that regional given the easy path they were given.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 01, 2021, 09:44:00 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 31, 2021, 11:13:40 PM
I'm shocked Simmons is coming back seeing the Pointers got robbed of not making regionals. After seeing how regionals went one could argue the Pointers may have won 6 or 7 of the regionals if their bats were anywhere near what they were during the season. Don't get the hate on UWSP it's embarrassing that 10-15 of the 48 teams that made regionals were there the pointers without a doubt would've mercy ruled several teams.
Well, considering the fact that there were only 6 Pool B/C bids  this year, at least nine out of those 15 teams EARNED the right to play at Regionals.  If you have an issue with that, look no further that the Pointers 15-0 loss to Stout in the opening round of the WIAC Tournament. 

"I can't imagine anyone seen the pointers losing to stout in the opening round of the wiac tournament given the easy draw they were given."
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 01, 2021, 10:55:49 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 31, 2021, 11:15:09 PM
Whitewater losing to Adrian has to sting I can't imagine anyone seen the hawks losing to anyone in that regional given the easy path they were given.

Next time you're at Wal lMart do yourself a favor and buy a clue.  You didn't see a single team that participated in the regional.  I bet you haven't even seen us play.  I just have one serious question for you.  Do you practice making absurd and ill informed comments or is this something that you've come by naturally.

Yes, it did sting.  But I noticed that the sun rose in the east this morning so it would seem the world is back on track. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 01, 2021, 03:33:58 PM
Looks like someone chose to just "ding" my karma, instead of having a civilized discussion on something they may have disagreed with that I posted...  Would be nice to have a nice back and forth dialogue in the future, or what's the point of visiting a message board?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 01, 2021, 04:49:47 PM
That's easy to balance.  This whole karma thing is a joke.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 01, 2021, 10:46:26 PM
I guess my point was there aren't many of us that visit the WIAC baseball board (compared to football and basketball) so why not have some dialogue instead of just hitting the karma button?  It would be nice to talk to someone else instead of just the same two or three guys on here all season...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 03, 2021, 09:08:51 AM
If Nelson also comes back for another year and the Pointers can somehow land a definite #1 pitcher Along with a few freshman pitchers who could fight for a rotation spot hopefully they'll be able to play a tough spring break schedule and be successful and have a conference season like they had this year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on June 03, 2021, 11:54:55 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on June 03, 2021, 09:08:51 AM
If Nelson also comes back for another year and the Pointers can somehow land a definite #1 pitcher Along with a few freshman pitchers who could fight for a rotation spot hopefully they'll be able to play a tough spring break schedule and be successful and have a conference season like they had this year.

It's nice of you to come post another reply after all the BS you spouted earlier, but of course you don't respond to anyone calling you out for your idiotic comments.  It shouldn't be shocking though, that's been your MO. 

You mentioned JD Schultz was elite, why does Point need an ace now?

Here are the facts, Point was a solid team but not a good enough team to make any noise in the playoffs.  They have some very solid pieces in place but still need depth in the pitching department.  Getting a true number 1 pitcher via a transfer would be exactly what the doctor ordered.  They also need a little more production out of the bottom of the order, was very top heavy this past season.  I'm definitely intrigued by the job Richter did and hope he can build on it.

Please stop with your hot takes, you've been doing it for as long as I've been on these boards.  You've literally never been close to correct with any of them.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on October 15, 2021, 05:16:37 PM
Well,  UWSP's basketball recruiting has become a joke lately....but I'm certainly intrigued by what Coach Richter is putting together so far in the class of 2022.  He already has 3 RHP's committed that are touching 87 before their senior season starts.  He might have the makings of a very deep pitching staff in the future.

Troy Knutson Holmen
Riley O'Connell West Bend West
Mason Weckler Belvidere North(IL)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on January 27, 2022, 12:27:11 AM
Is Aaron Simmons back for his 7th season or is he preparing for the MLB draft? I couldn't believe Pointers weren't ranked in pre season top 25 after winning the WIAC last year and having I thought damn near everyone back.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on January 27, 2022, 11:43:37 AM
As far as I know, Simmons is back...as well as Payton Nelson too.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on January 28, 2022, 12:11:41 AM
Let's hope the pitching staff is solid and can keep the ball in the park seeing they have quite a few home games. I don't know if playing Whitewater early is good or bad but if it's cool out home runs should be harder to come by. I'm excited to see how the WIAC is this season and if this could be the year for the Pointers to get back to the World Series.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on February 24, 2022, 11:47:47 AM
https://athletics.uwsp.edu/sports/baseball/roster (https://athletics.uwsp.edu/sports/baseball/roster)

Point's updated roster is up...

https://uwoshkoshtitans.com/sports/bsb/2021-22/roster (https://uwoshkoshtitans.com/sports/bsb/2021-22/roster)

Oshkosh too
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on February 24, 2022, 03:13:46 PM
You beat me to it I've been eagerly waiting each day to see Points roster and my God at least Pointer fans will have something to look forward to given this roster and who all returned.  I don't see how Point wasn't ranked in the top 25 preseason poll given how they finished last season although I'm not sure voters knew if some of the seniors were coming back.  I can't think of many lineups that will be better than having Simmons, Comer, Nelson, Henwood, Baumann, Finger, Luedtke, Canterbury, etc. the list goes on and on of great hitters and guys who can hit with power.  I felt the pitching staff did well last year but will have to be GREAT this year to win the conference tournament and more importantly win games they absolutely should win so they leave little doubt they belong in regionals.  I'm not sure how the rotation will be for conference games but if I recall last year it was Carpenter, Syvertson, Krommenaker, Pickering, and Ferry closed and finished as an all american.  Throw Marcus Jaworski who transferred from D2 school into the mix and if he's dialed in could give them some strong innings either as a starter or set up man. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on February 27, 2022, 10:51:47 AM
I agree that Point is back but you need more than one good season to prove it to all.  I expect this is the season that everyone knows whether last yearf was a fluke or a sign of things to come.  I expect the latter.

Quote from: ShineTime on February 24, 2022, 03:13:46 PM
You beat me to it I've been eagerly waiting each day to see Points roster and my God at least Pointer fans will have something to look forward to given this roster and who all returned.  I don't see how Point wasn't ranked in the top 25 preseason poll given how they finished last season although I'm not sure voters knew if some of the seniors were coming back.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 28, 2022, 11:44:07 AM
UWO played three games this weekend, and while they played a pair of Top 10 teams in the country (#5 Adrian and #7 Birmingham Southern, along with Dominican University) the pitching staff took some lumps as they gave up a total of 31 runs on 34 hits and 12 walks in just 25 innings of work.  The thought has typically been the pitchers have the advantage early in the season, but it would seem that wasn't the case in Alabama this weekend.

Could be a long season in the WIAC for UWO if the pitching staff hasn't taken a step forward from their 5.68 ERA in WIAC play last season.  (Only Platteville, Eau Claire, and Finlandia were worse last year...)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on February 28, 2022, 11:08:27 PM
Is Harry Orth the ace of the staff or no? He had 9 k's in 4 innings but also 4 walks but that's impressive. If he can cut the walks in half and pitch like that in the WIAC at least the titans will have someone they can count on in a big game. They played tough competition so it's not too surprising the amount of runs they gave up however to your point typically pitching is on display early in the year and bats are silenced.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 04, 2022, 12:04:33 PM
https://athletics.uwsp.edu/news/2022/3/4/uwsp-baseball-adds-depth-poised-to-contend-again-in-2022.aspx (https://athletics.uwsp.edu/news/2022/3/4/uwsp-baseball-adds-depth-poised-to-contend-again-in-2022.aspx)

Season preview for UWSP.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 07, 2022, 11:41:04 PM
2 monster wins to open the season for Pointers scored close to 30 runs in 2 games however pitching really struggled which is concerning. It's safe to say baseballs will be leaving the yard possibly at a record pace given how loaded the offense seems to be!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 08, 2022, 09:16:17 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 07, 2022, 11:41:04 PM
2 monster wins to open the season for Pointers scored close to 30 runs in 2 games however pitching really struggled which is concerning. It's safe to say baseballs will be leaving the yard possibly at a record pace given how loaded the offense seems to be!
"Monster" wins? 

One opponent was Illinois Institute on Technology, who in case you forgot went 6-18 with an ERA over 5.00 as a member of the WIAC back in 2018.  The other was Carroll, who went 14-18 in the CCIW last year.  Neither opponent is the type that would qualify for Regionals in my opinion, so it's hard put a lot of stock in either opponent for me....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 17, 2022, 10:51:56 PM
Pointers destroy Wheaton today with Simmons leading the way falling a triple short of the cycle. The pitching staff appears to be trying to allow opposing teams to hang around by walking hitters left and right which is a major concern especially when it's guys at the top of rotation pitching poorly. Thankfully there most likely won't be many games where they score less than 10 so hopefully they can figure it out pitching wise because the rest looks great. I don't recall a batting order being this stacked in a very long time.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 19, 2022, 01:14:58 PM
The ShineTime "kiss of death" makes an early appearance this season...   The day after he proclaims that "there most likely won't be many games where they score less than 10 runs" the Pointers are shut out on just two singles in a 7-0 loss to Coe.

Fortunately for the Pointers, they bounced back and took the nightcap from Coe and also defeated St. Scholastica this morning to improve to 5-1 on the season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 24, 2022, 12:22:18 PM
Pointers end Florida trip with 2 monumental wins against Washington and Jefferson and John Hopkins. Offense for the most part has been rock solid but pitching will need to get better and fast with Whitewater right around the corner. Going to be tough to muster more than 3-4 runs vs their top 2 in rotation for sure. I'm going to keep expectations lower especially at Whitewater and say gaining a split would be huge and the absolute worst case scenario would be taking 1 of 4. If Pointers get swept winning conference is out the window and having 5 losses overall that early would likely mean they'd have to finish second in conference regular season and conference tournament unless they'd win it as well as having to sweep a lot of series in the WIAC which definitely won't be easy to do given the strength of conference overall.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 25, 2022, 04:09:02 PM
WARHAWKS vs Pointers pair of twin bills scheduled for this weekend has been postponed to Monday 3/28 and another date in April which I'm not sure of.  Weather related
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: PauldingLightUP on April 09, 2022, 09:12:20 PM
Point and La Crosse halted for the day due to darkness tied at 14 heading to the 10th.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on May 03, 2022, 10:51:38 PM
Looks like Point lost their chance at a regular season conference title when they lost both games of a doubleheader to WW recently, but I have done some digging into their recruiting efforts recently....and unlike the horrific results coming out of Coach Semling and the basketball team lately, Coach Richter has the program headed in the right direction.  I'm excited to see how a few of these recruits develop at the next level.

Troy Knutson RHP Holmen
Riley O'Connell RHP West Bene West
Mason Weckler RHP Belvidere North(IL)
Cristiano Ramirez SS/RHP Muskego
Brady Martin 3B Watertown
Mason Fink C Verona
Jace Laatsch 2B Oconomowoc
Tyler Soule SS Oregon
Tommy Drohen OF SPASH
Kamden Kobe Oliver IF Viroqua
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 04, 2022, 11:44:44 PM
Has Amherst stud pitcher Ben Lee committed somewhere yet? It sure would be nice to have him and step in as your ace or 2nd starter in rotation at worse! I also have dreamt that former Iola Scandinavia stud Connor Kurki left Coastal Carolina and came back close to home to finish out his college career with former high school teammate Marcus Jaworski. It would seem fitting seeing these two were robbed of a high school season together in which they slid to d4 and were ranked 1 in preseason. I know the Pointers are losing a ton offensively and leadership wise in Simmons, Nelson, and Luedtke but I love the nucleus they'll return and there are also some guys on the bench currently who can play and will get a chance to prove it. Bauman imo is a d1 kid all day and having him as your leadoff hitter helps a ton. Tomczak is another kid who thankfully wound up a Pointer and has shown he can mash so next year you could potentially have finger catch and hit and Tomczak could dh when not catching. Comer and Tomczak as your 3 4 is lethal. Henwood is solid as is Boos but guys will be pushing hard for spots no doubt. I was told Point has a d1 transfer pitcher for next year does anyone know who it is?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on May 05, 2022, 09:24:54 AM
Ben Lee is committed to Milwaukee.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 06, 2022, 09:22:34 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 04, 2022, 11:44:44 PM
Has Amherst stud pitcher Ben Lee committed somewhere yet? It sure would be nice to have him and step in as your ace or 2nd starter in rotation at worse! I also have dreamt that former Iola Scandinavia stud Connor Kurki left Coastal Carolina and came back close to home to finish out his college career with former high school teammate Marcus Jaworski.
I would put the odds of Kurki entering the transfer portal ad leaving Coastal Carolina at over 90% right now...  He's only seen action in four games this season, with two of them coming in "mop up duty" in the past two weeks.  That's just not going to cut it when you are paying for school as a non-resident....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on May 06, 2022, 05:01:24 PM
You dreamt of Kurki transferring to Point??  You ask about a D1 transfer cuz you've heard of one to Point and then randomly bring up Kurki, why don't you just say that's who you heard is transferring to Point?  I have heard nothing about a D1 transfer for next season, they had one last year from Milwaukee and he wasn't listed on the roster this year.  He very well could have gotten hurt or just didn't make the team, I don't know.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 07, 2022, 11:43:32 PM
I wasn't told Kurki is coming to Point but had heard it's likely he's transferring. I was told by credible source there's a kid who transferred to Point but had to sit out this year but is for sure pitching for Pointers next year. He said the kid hands down would've given Point that clear cut ace they seem to be missing.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2022, 10:02:46 AM
Congrats WARHAWKS championship #21
GO HAWKS 

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2022, 12:11:21 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2022, 10:02:46 AM
Congrats WARHAWKS championship #21
GO HAWKS
Give it another 10-12? years and they'll be at the top of the standings....  I never would've guessed that they'd be possible, but when you've only won TWO Conference Championships in the last 20 years (and ZERO in the last 12 years) it doesn't take long for what used to be an insurmountable lead to start shrinking away....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 12, 2022, 03:46:18 PM
UWSP mercy-rules UWL 18-7 in the WIAC Tournament opener this morning, and UWO has put up 16 runs on 16 hits (four HR's) over the first four innings to chase Westin Muir as they lead Whitewater 16-2 in the second game of the day....

EDIT:  UWO mercy-rules Whitewater 17-4....    Connor Brinkman with the CG for UWO.

La Crosse vs Whitewater in an elimination game later this afternoon...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigSpotScott on May 12, 2022, 04:39:50 PM
Where does this rank among UWW's worst losses in recent memory?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 12, 2022, 05:36:59 PM
Quote from: BigSpotScott on May 12, 2022, 04:39:50 PM
Where does this rank among UWW's worst losses in recent memory?
Ranks high enough possibly to light the fire that sends UWW on a title run...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigSpotScott on May 12, 2022, 08:24:50 PM
 Not quite the fire you were hoping for I'm afraid

Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 12, 2022, 05:36:59 PM
Quote from: BigSpotScott on May 12, 2022, 04:39:50 PM
Where does this rank among UWW's worst losses in recent memory?
Ranks high enough possibly to light the fire that sends UWW on a title run...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: PauldingLightUP on May 12, 2022, 08:33:12 PM
I'm sorry, this is A huge embarrassment for Whitewater! I can't believe they lost twice on their home turf in one day.

Not sure if they really didn't care because they were basically a lock for Pool C or what, but this day going to go down as one of the biggest upsets in history.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 12, 2022, 08:49:12 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 12, 2022, 05:36:59 PM
Quote from: BigSpotScott on May 12, 2022, 04:39:50 PM
Where does this rank among UWW's worst losses in recent memory?
Ranks high enough possibly to light the fire that sends UWW on a title run...
Well if it's going to be a title run, it will need to be a Regional title, as La Crosse scores five runs in the 9th inning to knock off Whitewater 14-12 and eliminate the Warhawks from the WIAC Tournament after the first day....

Someone on the Pool C bubble will be pulling for Stevens Point to win their next two games so that their bubble doesn't get popped...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 12, 2022, 10:29:10 PM
Are the Pointers and Warhawks locks to make regionals no matter how Point does the rest of the tournament or does Point need to win at least 1 more time? Their SOS isn't the greatest and I don't care what anyway says injuries matter to the committee and if Casey Pickering isn't healthy that's a huge knock on the Pointers. It would be nice to see 3 WIAC teams in regionals but only if it were to mean the Pointers are getting shipped to a different regional.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigSpotScott on May 13, 2022, 12:09:28 PM
Oh yeah, I'm sure the "Selection Committee" is aware of the injury status of some player in Stevens Point, WI
Quote from: ShineTime on May 12, 2022, 10:29:10 PM
Are the Pointers and Warhawks locks to make regionals no matter how Point does the rest of the tournament or does Point need to win at least 1 more time? Their SOS isn't the greatest and I don't care what anyway says injuries matter to the committee and if Casey Pickering isn't healthy that's a huge knock on the Pointers. It would be nice to see 3 WIAC teams in regionals but only if it were to mean the Pointers are getting shipped to a different regional.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 13, 2022, 12:51:36 PM
Quote from: BigSpotScott on May 13, 2022, 12:09:28 PM
Oh yeah, I'm sure the "Selection Committee" is aware of the injury status of some player in Stevens Point, WI
Quote from: ShineTime on May 12, 2022, 10:29:10 PM
Are the Pointers and Warhawks locks to make regionals no matter how Point does the rest of the tournament or does Point need to win at least 1 more time? Their SOS isn't the greatest and I don't care what anyway says injuries matter to the committee and if Casey Pickering isn't healthy that's a huge knock on the Pointers. It would be nice to see 3 WIAC teams in regionals but only if it were to mean the Pointers are getting shipped to a different regional.
It appears it's going to be a moot point anyway....

Pickering got the start today against UWO and has given up 2 runs through five innings of work on 76 pitches thus far.  In addition, it appears Stevens Point is one win away from securing the Pool A bid so it won't even be a discussion point among the Selection Committee if they are able to secure a win either today or tomorrow.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 13, 2022, 04:55:49 PM
Stevens Point dispatches of UWO 11-5 in the first game today, and UWO turns around and eliminates La Crosse 11-4 in the final game of the day.

Due to the heat, the third game of the day was moved to Saturday since UWO had already played a pair of games today.  Had La Crosse beaten UWO, the third game would've been played as scheduled.

This means it's Stevens Point vs UWO tomorrow for the Pool A bid.  UWO needs to win a pair, while Stevens Point just needs to win one game.  Anyone on the Pool C "bubble" will likely be pulling for the Pointers as they are likely in as a Pool C bid should UWO win a pair tomorrow.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 13, 2022, 10:36:08 PM
Quote from: BigSpotScott on May 12, 2022, 08:24:50 PM
Not quite the fire you were hoping for I'm afraid

Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 12, 2022, 05:36:59 PM
Quote from: BigSpotScott on May 12, 2022, 04:39:50 PM
Where does this rank among UWW's worst losses in recent memory?
Ranks high enough possibly to light the fire that sends UWW on a title run...


As dark a day in program history as I remember.  Good grief.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 14, 2022, 01:32:58 PM
I overreact more than anyone and I think people are overreacting to Whitewater going 0-2 and forgetting how tough the top half of the conference truly is. The part I'd be concerned about is your top pitchers got hit hard but I can all but guarantee the bats will come alive when it matters: I'm all but guaranteeing Whitewater hosts regionals as a 1 seed and Point 2 but am hoping Pointers get the 2.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 15, 2022, 10:21:31 AM
So in looking at results of Conference Tournaments in the region, the following teams have qualified for Regionals:

-Webster
-Stevens Point
-Bethel
-Augustana
-Coe
-Lawrence
-MSOE
-Crown

I'm going to assume both Whitewater and North Central earn Pool C bids,  which would then give you ten teams for two 4-Team Regionals, which means either two teams are getting shipped out, OR two teams are shipped in so there three 4-Team Regionals...

***Aurora was ranked #2 in last Regional Rankings but went 1-2 in NACC Tournament (losing to #5 & #6 seeds) while #3 North Central lost in the CCIW Tournament Championship. Maybe North Central doesn't earn a Pool C bid?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 15, 2022, 11:46:56 AM
It will interesting to see how the NCAA divides this up.... is it more economical to ship teams out of the region or bring teams in? A lot will likely depend on results today in other parts of the country. And as usual, some decisions will be based on economic factors.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 15, 2022, 12:31:08 PM
This definitely isn't your father's D3 baseball anymore! Crown, Lawrence, and MSOE used to be looked at as "SOS killers" as little as 10-15 years ago, yet here they are each claiming automatic Pool A bids, so "congrats" is in order!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 15, 2022, 08:52:08 PM
What I've been told is that UW-WHITEWATER will be a host site.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 15, 2022, 09:18:10 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 15, 2022, 08:52:08 PM
What I've been told is that UW-WHITEWATER will be a host site.
Not a surprise... It would be a bigger surprise if they weren't hosting in my opinion.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 15, 2022, 09:20:27 PM
Well if Pat and the crew at d3baseball.com are correct, we'll see two different Regionals taking place in Wisconsin this week, with both Whitewater and Stevens Point hosting a four team Regional.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 16, 2022, 12:31:47 PM
Whitewater Regional
Whitewater vs MSOE
Aurora vs Augustana


Stevens Point Regional
Stevens Point vs Lawrence
North Central vs Coe

At first glance, it looks like two pretty balanced Regionals...  Each with a WIAC and CCIW school, and then a qualifier from a non-traditional power Conference.  The only difference is Coe vs Aurora, and it could be argued they pretty even as well?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 16, 2022, 12:51:08 PM
Selfishly, I was hoping one of Whitewater/Stevens Point would get paired up with the Webster Regional, however that won't be the case.  Should Whitewater and Stevens Point both end up victorious in their Regional, they'll play each other in a "Best-of-Three" Super Regional for a berth in the College World Series.

Webster is playing host to Wooster, Bethel, and Crown in their Regional...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: GBMAN on May 20, 2022, 05:15:13 PM
Whitewater escapes MSOE 10-6... UW-W with crucial errors allowing MSOE to climb back in..
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: PauldingLightUP on May 22, 2022, 08:12:22 PM
Both Whitewater and Stevens Point win game 7. There will be an all WIAC Super in Whitewater.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 22, 2022, 09:55:25 PM
Quote from: PauldingLightUP on May 22, 2022, 08:12:22 PM
Both Whitewater and Stevens Point win game 7. There will be an all WIAC Super in Whitewater.
If I'm reading things correctly, it appears the Super Regional will be at Stevens Point next weekend...

EDIT:  Whitewater has now edited there schedule to list it as "Location TBD."  Earlier this evening it was listed as "At Stevens Point."
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 22, 2022, 11:39:07 PM
I was told by a Pointer player it's at Whitewater which is probably a good thing because baseballs aren't cheap and there will be a lot flying over the wall.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 23, 2022, 07:52:36 PM
It's official the games will be held on Prucha Field at Miller Park on the campus of UW-WHITEWATER   GO HAWKS!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on May 27, 2022, 03:30:09 PM
Point is doing a fantastic job of choking game 1 away.  Ferry comes into a 9-4 game and needed to get 6 outs, couldn't do it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 27, 2022, 03:36:20 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on May 27, 2022, 03:30:09 PM
Point is doing a fantastic job of choking game 1 away.  Ferry comes into a 9-4 game and needed to get 6 outs, couldn't do it.
Actually, he got 7 outs... His defense didn't give him much support, as evidenced by the five runs he gave up all being unearned....

I'm more surprised at Point putting up 9 runs despite their starting OF/Top 3 hitters being a combined 2x15...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: mr_b on May 27, 2022, 03:41:24 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 27, 2022, 03:36:20 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on May 27, 2022, 03:30:09 PM
Point is doing a fantastic job of choking game 1 away.  Ferry comes into a 9-4 game and needed to get 6 outs, couldn't do it.
Actually, he got 7 outs... His defense didn't give him much support, as evidenced by the five runs he gave up all being unearned....

I'm more surprised at Point putting up 9 runs despite their starting OF/Top 3 hitters being a combined 2x15...
Pinch-hitter Kyle Finger doubles home the winning run.  He's having quite a tournament: in the regional, he had a pinch-hit home run and a second home run in the same inning versus North Central.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 27, 2022, 03:50:07 PM
Quote from: mr_b on May 27, 2022, 03:41:24 PM
Pinch-hitter Kyle Finger doubles home the winning run.  He's having quite a tournament: in the regional, he had a pinch-hit home run and a second home run in the same inning versus North Central.
No pinch hitter this time... He came in to catch in the top half when Richter pulled Ferry and went to Syvertson.

EDIT-I stand corrected... Looks like Finger entered at the START of the 9th inning as a defensive replacement and then promptly committed an error that led to three unearned runs and allowed Whitewater to tie the game.  With that said, I tip my cap to him as he got a chance to redeem himself and took full advantage of it with the aforementioned walk-off double.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: mr_b on May 27, 2022, 04:00:43 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 27, 2022, 03:50:07 PM
Quote from: mr_b on May 27, 2022, 03:41:24 PM
Pinch-hitter Kyle Finger doubles home the winning run.  He's having quite a tournament: in the regional, he had a pinch-hit home run and a second home run in the same inning versus North Central.
No pinch hitter this time... He came in to catch in the top half when Richter pulled Ferry and went to Syvertson.
Thanks for that correction, cubs.  He sure is coming up big for the Pointers in the tournament.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 27, 2022, 04:02:56 PM
Quote from: mr_b on May 27, 2022, 04:00:43 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 27, 2022, 03:50:07 PM
Quote from: mr_b on May 27, 2022, 03:41:24 PM
Pinch-hitter Kyle Finger doubles home the winning run.  He's having quite a tournament: in the regional, he had a pinch-hit home run and a second home run in the same inning versus North Central.
No pinch hitter this time... He came in to catch in the top half when Richter pulled Ferry and went to Syvertson.
Thanks for that correction, cubs.  He sure is coming up big for the Pointers in the tournament.
Agreed... Not always an easy thing to do when you've been sitting on the bench all day.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 27, 2022, 07:03:17 PM
Next year they'll be able to have Finger catch primarily and have Tomczak dh or vice versa which will help a ton
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 27, 2022, 07:23:49 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 27, 2022, 07:03:17 PM
Next year they'll be able to have Finger catch primarily and have Tomczak dh or vice versa which will help a ton.
When you look at Point's roster, it's a pretty young team overall... They'll have to replace two OF's next season (WIAC POY Simmons and Nelson,) DH (Luedtke) and one pitcher (Krommenaker.) Other than that, everyone else is eligible to return so the run they're making this year is all the more impressive!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 28, 2022, 02:09:59 PM
Lucas Luedtke is having a MONSTER seven day stretch!

After going 10x12 with 2 HR's and 10 RBI's against North Central on Regional Championship Sunday, he has followed that up with a 3x4 day this afternoon which includes THREE HR's and 4 RBI's as UWSP leads Whitewater 6-3 in the Top of the 7th inning today.

Each pitch must look like a beach ball coming in for Luedtke right now!  It couldn't have come at a better time for the Pointers as Simmons looks like a mere mortal at the plate this weekend, and not the WIAC POY level he performed at for much of the season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 28, 2022, 02:21:35 PM
Korman having a day himself, as his second HR of the day ties things up 6-6...  If Whitewater comes back to win the opener, I'm not sure either team will have much pitching for the nightcap!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: mr_b on May 28, 2022, 02:25:08 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 28, 2022, 02:21:35 PM
Korman having a day himself, as his second HR of the day ties things up 6-6...  If Whitewater comes back to win the opener, I'm not sure either team will have much pitching for the nightcap!
It looks like there is quite a strong wind blowing from right to left, but the batters are getting some good swings.  Luedtke and Korman are having big days.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 28, 2022, 02:39:51 PM
So your season is on the line with the bases loaded and one out in a 7-6 game in the 8th inning...  Who do you go to?  A kid that has 4 IP on the season...  Hmm...

Edit: Matson promptly greets him with a grand slam on the second pitch of the at-bat to give the Pointers an 11-6 lead.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: John Gleich on May 28, 2022, 02:46:37 PM
Is it just me... Or is Point's offense on an absolute tear?

Look at the runs scored since the WIAC tournament has started...
18, 11, 10, 11, 2, 10, 27, 21, 20, and now 11, going into the bottom of the 8th.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 28, 2022, 02:57:33 PM
Quote from: John Gleich on May 28, 2022, 02:46:37 PM
Is it just me... Or is Point's offense on an absolute tear?

Look at the runs scored since the WIAC tournament has started...
18, 11, 10, 11, 2, 10, 27, 21, 20, and now 11, going into the bottom of the 8th.
I felt going into the season, Stevens Point has the best line-up in the WIAC, and it really wasn't debatable.  I just wasn't sure if they had the pitching to get them through a Regional/Super Regional.  The return of Pickering for the WIAC Tournament was a HUGE shot in the arm, as it gave Coach Richter three starters (Schultz, Pickering, Krommenakker) he could try and play the match-ups with.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 28, 2022, 02:59:19 PM
Not to mention they have stranded how many base runners! It's getting interesting now however with hit batter, error on what would've been sure double play, and an infield single.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: mr_b on May 28, 2022, 03:02:34 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 28, 2022, 02:39:51 PM
So your season is on the line with the bases loaded and one out in a 7-6 game in the 8th inning...  Who do you go to?  A kid that has 4 IP on the season...  Hmm...

Edit: Matson promptly greets him with a grand slam on the second pitch of the at-bat to give the Pointers an 11-6 lead.
I know... that move was a real head-scratcher.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 28, 2022, 03:22:36 PM
Stevens Point puts up a five spot in the eighth inning (which was capped by the aforementioned Logan Mattson Grand Slam) to break a 6-6 tie, and knock off WIAC rival Whitewater 11-7 for their first trip to the World Series since 2013 when they finished in 4th Place.

Good luck in Cedar Rapids Pointers!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 30, 2022, 12:47:48 PM
When are the pairings announced? I think what's going to hurt the Pointers is not having that dominant guy at top of rotation like they've had in their past World Series appearances. If they get the right matchup and their opponent is in same boat I would think they could have a legit chance to finish in the top half given how excellent their offense has been playing. They also just beat up on Lancour and Muir who were arguably 2 of the better pitchers in the nation. If the rest helps Pickering i definitely think he's a guy who can silence a potent offenses bats as he did it to the warhawks earlier this season. I would guess Marietta and East Connecticut St. would be the favorites but Salisbury appears to be able to rake also and are defending champs. I really like how Schultz has thrown lately and if he can go 6 innings somehow and guys like Syvertson and Jaworski can just give them an inning perhaps the Pointers have a shot but in the end I believe they'll be a true ace away but hope I'm wrong. Good thing for Pointer fans is the location is less than 5 hours away.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: mr_b on May 30, 2022, 04:28:19 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 30, 2022, 12:47:48 PM
When are the pairings announced?
Here is the schedule, from D3 Baseball. (https://www.d3baseball.com/playoffs/2022/Regional-scoreboard?date=2022-06-03)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: mr_b on May 30, 2022, 08:47:44 PM
More detailed breakdown of the D3 Baseball Championship, showing which teams are in each bracket (https://www.d3baseball.com/playoffs/2022/world-series-matchups-set):

Bracket 1 (D3baseball.com Top 25 rankings)
No. 2 Marietta (43-5) vs. Catholic (34-14), 10 a.m. CT (No. 1 vs. No. 8 seed)
No. 7 Salisbury (36-10) vs. No. 12 Stevens Point (40-8), 1:15 p.m. CT (No. 4 vs. No. 5 seed)

Bracket 2
No. 1 Eastern Connecticut (44-3) vs. No. 21 Baldwin Wallace (37-11), 4:30 CT (No. 2 vs. No. 7 seed)
No. 4 LaGrange (42-7) vs. No. 15 Trinity, Texas (37-11), 7:45 CT (No. 3 vs. No. 6 seed)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: mr_b on May 31, 2022, 10:54:33 AM
The D3 Baseball All-Region Teams have been announced.   (https://www.d3baseball.com/awards/all-region/2022/index)The WIAC is well represented with five on the first team, three on the second team, and three on the third team.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 31, 2022, 04:22:55 PM
I'm happy someone besides me thought the Pointer Freshman catcher was an absolute stud whose bat had to be in the lineup.  I didn't think he'd make first team all region but I won't disagree with it either.  I'm shocked Nelson didn't get acknowledged he's definitely a reason for the Pointers success the past two seasons.  You could argue Comer and Nelson got robbed but I guess you can't have a teams entire lineup get recognized. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 04, 2022, 01:15:22 PM
I've loved watching Anthony Tomczak hit all year but today's 3 run bomb was great. The second he connected he knew it and gave the perfect bat toss. Unfortunately as I kind of knew going into the World Series their pitching staff just isn't getting it done and their trailing 7-6. I'm crossing my fingers that Points World Series appearance gets them a junior college transfer pitcher and also a great power hitter because trying to make up for the loss of Simmons, Nelson, and Luedtkes production will be beyond difficult although Tomczak I would assume if not catching certain games next year will be the dh.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on September 07, 2022, 11:08:58 AM
I'm kind of surprised this wasn't mentioned on here but the Pointers will have CF Peyton Nelson back this spring! Having Nelson, Comer, & Tomczak in the middle of your lineup will be fun to watch plus they will have Tommy Drohner and Brycen Cashin battling for right field I believe.  Cashin had committed to D2 school for baseball but evidently he's being allowed to be 2 sport athlete for Pointers which is great.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on September 07, 2022, 01:01:08 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on September 07, 2022, 11:08:58 AM
I'm kind of surprised this wasn't mentioned on here but the Pointers will have CF Peyton Nelson back this spring! Having Nelson, Comer, & Tomczak in the middle of your lineup will be fun to watch plus they will have Tommy Drohner and Brycen Cashin battling for right field I believe.  Cashin had committed to D2 school for baseball but evidently he's being allowed to be 2 sport athlete for Pointers which is great.

Where can you possibly be hearing this?  Aaron Simmons and Payton Nelson were in the same recruiting class.  As far as I can tell, they both used their covid years this past season and used up their eligibility.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on September 08, 2022, 09:10:37 AM
I'm not joking whatsoever I was told by someone on the roster and asked him if he was kidding and also asked if he knew how it's possible because I don't know how it is. It says on his Facebook page he left Point in December of last year which makes sense he probably graduated and then just played his extra Covid year this spring. I had said to him he must be excited to have Cashin in center potentially or Drohner and he responded no Nelson will be in cf!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on October 04, 2022, 08:13:26 PM
Take this for what it's worth...

Well apparently due to Covid, D3 baseball players who played in both 2020 and 2021 didn't have either year count against them for eligibility purposes.  Since both 2020 and 2021 were granted as "free years" for them, a player would still have four "other" years to use up their eligibility. This is how Nelson (and others) would still have eligibility remaining.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on October 04, 2022, 08:18:26 PM
I'm news that should make badgerwarhawk happy, the following players will be returning to the diamond to play another season for Whitewater this Spring:

• Matt Korman
• Jacob Demeyer
• Ryan Norton
• Sam Vomhof

I believe that would mean Whitewater would return 7/8 of their everyday starters on offense....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on October 05, 2022, 10:36:45 AM
I'm mostly concerned about pitching as we've lost Anfang, Muir and Lancour a big part of our rotation.

On the plus side Donovan Brandl returns after missing almost all of last season due to injury.  Cade Berendt returns after a solid 2022.  Nick Rector and Sam Padan showed some promise and we had a lot of young pitchers on the roster last year.  Plus you have current recruits.

Hopefully they'll be able to get the job done.   


Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on October 08, 2022, 08:39:00 PM
Point has Nelson returning for sure I confirmed with another player on the team however Simmons signed a professional contract somewhere so he's gone which makes obviously is an enormous loss. Point has some outstanding incoming freshman and I believe a junior college pitcher who will be ace of rotation. I'd give the edge to Whitewater to win the WIAC and of course both teams will be great and have to get through each other again.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on October 14, 2022, 01:50:21 PM
Point has had a great last 2 days on the recruiting trail by grabbing 2 of the highest risers in Wisconsin's senior class.

Connor Olson SS Arrowhead and Eli Niemiec RHP St Thomas More

Niemiec was touching 87 this past summer while Olson had a breakout summer and rose all the way up to 31 in the Wisconsin rankings.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on December 06, 2022, 10:45:05 AM
The run to the World Series is certainly helping Point's recruiting efforts this offseason, love what Coach Richter has been able to accomplish to improve his program.  Then again, Whitewater and La Crosse are bringing in very highly rated recruiting classes as well.  From what I've been able to find for Point:

Connor Olson IF Arrowhead (ranked 31st)
Eli Niemiec RHP St Thomas More (ranked 35th)
Jack Adams OF/2B Janesville Craig (ranked 88th)
Drew Kloster RHP Fort Atkinson (ranked 103rd)
Jeremiah Jahnke LHP Winneconne (ranked 126th)
Steve Wintheiser LHP Muskego (ranked 144th)
Jaden Stuhr LHP Marion (ranked 148th)
Gavyn Novak RHP/IF Janesville Parker
Lane Boucher OF Menasha
Drew Mistele IF Baraboo
Dylan Cunningham C Franklin
Cooper Brown 3B/1B Appleton West
Isaac Beeler OF/RHP Westlake(TX)
Asher Nicholson IF Denver East(CO)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 08, 2022, 12:57:57 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on December 06, 2022, 10:45:05 AM
The run to the World Series is certainly helping Point's recruiting efforts this offseason, love what Coach Richter has been able to accomplish to improve his program.  Then again, Whitewater and La Crosse are bringing in very highly rated recruiting classes as well.  From what I've been able to find for Point:

Connor Olson IF Arrowhead (ranked 31st)
Eli Niemiec RHP St Thomas More (ranked 35th)
Jack Adams OF/2B Janesville Craig (ranked 88th)
Drew Kloster RHP Fort Atkinson (ranked 103rd)
Jeremiah Jahnke LHP Winneconne (ranked 126th)
Steve Wintheiser LHP Muskego (ranked 144th)
Jaden Stuhr LHP Marion (ranked 148th)
Gavyn Novak RHP/IF Janesville Parker
Lane Boucher OF Menasha
Drew Mistele IF Baraboo
Dylan Cunningham C Franklin
Cooper Brown 3B/1B Appleton West
Isaac Beeler OF/RHP Westlake(TX)
Asher Nicholson IF Denver East(CO)
Beeler from Austin Westlake? Wanting to pay out-of-state tuition when there are so many D3 and JUCO opportunities in Texas?

Is he a Wisconsin expatriate/native?

(Thanks for the post.)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on December 22, 2022, 11:02:18 PM
Jaden Stuhr is a kid from small school who could be that next big time lefty who dominates at Point. Wouldn't be shocked if he's the next JC Reinke or Joel Delorit! He just really seems to have so much movement and with good strength coach could be special.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 02, 2023, 03:43:10 PM
https://athletics.uwsp.edu/sports/baseball/roster (https://athletics.uwsp.edu/sports/baseball/roster)

Point's roster is finally up.

From looking it over....big loss of Marcus Jaworski, he really came on strong at the end of last season.  I certainly expected him to be in the rotation this season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: mr_b on March 02, 2023, 04:58:39 PM
Finlandia University will be closing at the end of this academic year.

https://www.finlandia.edu/news/finlandia-university-will-not-enroll-students-for-the-2023-2024-academic-year/ (https://www.finlandia.edu/news/finlandia-university-will-not-enroll-students-for-the-2023-2024-academic-year/)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 03, 2023, 08:55:29 AM
Quote from: mr_b on March 02, 2023, 04:58:39 PM
Finlandia University will be closing at the end of this academic year.

https://www.finlandia.edu/news/finlandia-university-will-not-enroll-students-for-the-2023-2024-academic-year/ (https://www.finlandia.edu/news/finlandia-university-will-not-enroll-students-for-the-2023-2024-academic-year/)
Not mentioned in the article, but according to Head Coach Luke Paul's Twitter account, administration has also canceled the 2023 Baseball season.  This means WIAC teams will be looking to fill four games if they want to play a full 40 game schedule....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: mr_b on March 03, 2023, 12:37:08 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 03, 2023, 08:55:29 AM
Quote from: mr_b on March 02, 2023, 04:58:39 PM
Finlandia University will be closing at the end of this academic year.

https://www.finlandia.edu/news/finlandia-university-will-not-enroll-students-for-the-2023-2024-academic-year/ (https://www.finlandia.edu/news/finlandia-university-will-not-enroll-students-for-the-2023-2024-academic-year/)
Not mentioned in the article, but according to Head Coach Luke Paul's Twitter account, administration has also canceled the 2023 Baseball season.  This means WIAC teams will be looking to fill four games if they want to play a full 40 game schedule....
That has to be devastating news for the Finlandia players and coaches as they were getting ready for the 2023 season.  At least the WIAC teams have some regional options (CCIW, NathCon, MIAC, UMAC, etc.) to pick up a few more games.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 27, 2023, 09:58:11 AM
Results from over the weekend:
-La Crosse takes three out of four from Stout
-Platteville sweeps Stevens Point (at Wisconsin Rapids) on Sunday; Finishing series today
-Whitewater and Eau Claire postponed until later this week
-No Games For UWO as this was their Finlandia DH weekend
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 28, 2023, 09:36:22 PM
The WARHAWKS take both ends of today's double header with Eau Claire squeaking by 3-2 in game one and blowing them out 16-5 (7 inn) in game two.  Cade Berendt went 6 innings allowing 2 earned runs on 7 hits with 6 strikeouts for the win and Michael Hilker picked up a save with a pair of bases loaded, looking strikeouts to end the game.  Brandl's home run and Jacob DeMeyer's three hits paced the WARHAWKS offense.  In game two the WARHAWKS scored 5 runs after two outs in the first two at bats but EC battled back with 4 of their own in the top of the third.  However from that point on it was all WARHAWKS who added 5 in the fourth, 2 in the fifth and 4 more in the sixth.  Joey Pettit got the win allowing 7 hits, 4 runs (3 earned) in 4 innings.  Brandl struck out 5 of the 6 batters he faced and Trey Bretl finished the last inning allowing a single run.  Matt Scolon had 4 hits while Sam Vomhof, DeMeyer and Alex Najera had 3 hits.  Scolon, DeMeyer and Nick Paget each drove in 3 runs.  Scolon, Paget and Vomhof hit home runs.

With bad weather predicted tomorrow the second double header has been postponed to April 10th. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 02, 2023, 07:32:06 PM
The WARHAWKS and Titans split today's doubleheader.  In game one the Titans pounded three WARHAWKS relievers for 8 runs and 12 hits scoring 6 runs across their last three at bats winning the game 9-8 with back to back solo home runs.  Donovan Brandl got the start and despite some control issues allowed just one hit and run over the first four innings leaving with a comfortable 6-1 lead.  I don't quite understand why he takes the loss but that's what the box score says.  Matt Scolon, Sam Vomhof and Adam Cootway hit home runs for the WARHAWKS who had 15 hits as a team.  Shiu, Kirchberg and Marsh hit homers for the Titans who finished with 13 team hits.  Trey Tennessen took the win in relief.   Game two went to the WARHAWKS who continued to hit gathering 20 hits in the run rule shortened 17-4 (7 inn) win.  Five WARHAWKS (Brandl, Cootway, Vomhof, Frazer and DeMeyer) and 7 WARHAWKS drove in runs.  Cootway got another home run.  Trey Bretl went 5 innings for the win and Danny Hooper pitched 2 scoreless innings in relief.  Taylor hit a home run for the Titans.  Sorrells took the loss allowing 8 runs (6 earned) in 4 innings.

Two more tomorrow. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 03, 2023, 10:11:46 PM
The WARHAWKS and Titans split a pair of one run games today.  In game one Oshkosh took a 1-0 lead in the first inning with an unearned run off WARHAWKS starter Cade Berendt.  That lead stood until the eighth inning when, with two outs, the WARHAWKS loaded the bases with the help of a pair of walks.  That set the stage for Sam Vomhof's grand slam home run and a 4-1 lead.  Not to be outdone the Titans answered, again with two outs, in their eighth with a pair of singles and a three run home run by Schermann knotting the score 4-4.  The WARHAWKS got what turned out to be the winning run when Donovan Brandl singled to lead off the ninth, advanced to second on a groundout, and scored on Bennet Frazier's two out single.  The Titans were retired in order in their at bat.  Max Huseboe picked up his second win of the season despite surrendering three runs in his one inning on the mound and Sam Paden picked up a save.  L. King took the loss in relief for the Titans.

In game two the WARHAWKS took an early 2-0 lead with a pair of unearned runs in the second.  That lead lasted an inning before the Titans put a 5 spot on the boad in their fourth inning at bat.  That score held until the sixth when the WARHAWKS plated a run making it 5-3.  In the eighth the WARHAWKS tied the game 5-5 with a pair of runs after Bennett Frazier's third triple of the day drove in a run and Frazier scored on a throwing error.  Frazier's triple was a high fly to deep right field.  The Titan fielder appeared to be making the catch when he tried to stop, lost his footing on the slippery turf and fell.  Oshkosh opened their last at bat with a double.  A wild pitch advanced a pinch runner to third.  He scored on a wild pitch and the game ended when the WARHAWKS were retired in order in the ninth.  Joey Pettit got the start allowing 5 runs (4 earned) on 7 hits with a pair of strikeouts in 4 innings.  Logan Eisenbarth took the loss allowing a single earned run on 4 hits and struck out seven in 3.2 innings.  Cade Hanson recorded a strikeout in his 0.1.  This time L King got the win for the Titans in relief.

It's the first time I remember seeing an individual hit three triples in a day though I suppose you could put an asterisk by the third one.  Regardless it was an impressive day at the plate for Bennett Frazier.  Also over the course of two games WARHAWKS pitchers only gave a free pass to a single Titan. 

The WARHAWKS host Loras on Thursday in a single game. 

In other action around the league LaCrosse continued their winning ways taking both ends of their doubleheader, 10-0 6-1, with Platteville.  The Eagles are 13-1 with 7 straight in their last 14 games.
Eau Claire and Stout were postponed. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 05, 2023, 07:17:31 PM
La Crosse definitely made a statement and is in a good spot already seeing they took all 4 against Platteville and Point split. Point literally has to win 3 of 4 possibly all 4 at La Crosse to have any chance to win regular season title.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2023, 02:01:46 PM
Loras: 4
WARHAWKS: 14 8 inn.

This one was decided early after the WARHAWKS put 6 runs on the board in the first inning.  After that it was single runs in the third, fourth and sixth innings and capped with five runs in the eighth.  Offensively, led by Joe Gordon's 4x5, 4 RBI, the WARHAWKS had 20 hits which included seven for extra bases.  Loras got a pair of runs in the fifth and eighth innings.  Sam Vomhof and Alex Najera each had three hits.  Max Husebro (3-0) picked up the win allowing 6 hits, 2 runs (both earned) while striking out 8 with a pair of walks in 5 innings.  Danny Hopper allowed a single hit and struck out 3 in two innings and Michael Hilker gave up a pair of runs (1 earned) and struck out 4 in an inning to finish the game.

Question: Hilker has 4 strikeouts but only pitched one inning.  By rule no inning has more than 3 outs.  Does a pitcher get credit for a strikeout on a dropped third strike in which the batter reaches first on the error? 

The WARHAWKS look to finish their series with EC on Monday 4/10.


edit: To answer my own question, yes the pitcher is credited with a K. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 08, 2023, 01:34:26 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 05, 2023, 07:17:31 PM
La Crosse definitely made a statement and is in a good spot already seeing they took all 4 against Platteville and Point split. Point literally has to win 3 of 4 possibly all 4 at La Crosse to have any chance to win regular season title.
I don't think sweeping four games against Platteville is "making a statement" when looking at La Crosse. Winning 16 out of 17 games before yesterday's loss shows they have the depth to compete with the top teams in the WIAC this season.

In my opinion, I think Point splitting with Platteville says more about where Point is at this year in the WIAC pecking order compared to preseason expectations....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 08, 2023, 01:45:49 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2023, 02:01:46 PM
Question: Hilker has 4 strikeouts but only pitched one inning.  By rule no inning has more than 3 outs.  Does a pitcher get credit for a strikeout on a dropped third strike in which the batter reaches first on the error?


edit: To answer my own question, yes the pitcher is credited with a K.
If a batter strikes out, the pitcher gets credit for a K regardless of whether the batter reaches via wild pitch, passed ball or an error....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 08, 2023, 06:33:30 PM
La Crosse and Point split...  (Those La Crosse and Point vs Whitewater/UWO series should be interesting...)
UWO sweeps Eau Claire (Not too surprising)
Platteville and Stout split (Two pretty even teams?)

Feels like La Crosse, Whitewater, UWO and Point are the top four teams in the WIAC thus far in 2023. That fourth spot in the WIAC Tournament might come down to the Point vs Stout series with Point picking up two losses to Platteville?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 08, 2023, 07:07:58 PM
Interesting usage of their closer this weekend by Stevens Point...

Point had a 5-4 lead in the 8th inning on Friday but decided against bringing Ferry into the game. Instead, two other relief pitchers combine to give up a pair of runs and La Crosse wins the opener 6-5...

Fast forward to today, and Ferry comes into the game in the 6th inning with Point trailing 10-4... I get wanting/needing him to get some work, but it's a bit of a head scratcher....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 08, 2023, 08:42:46 PM
Platteville and Stout played their games at Prucha Field in WHITEWATER and split the series.  Evidently Stout's field was unplayable.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 10, 2023, 02:42:06 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 08, 2023, 07:07:58 PM
Interesting usage of their closer this weekend by Stevens Point...

Point had a 5-4 lead in the 8th inning on Friday but decided against bringing Ferry into the game. Instead, two other relief pitchers combine to give up a pair of runs and La Crosse wins the opener 6-5...

Fast forward to today, and Ferry comes into the game in the 6th inning with Point trailing 10-4... I get wanting/needing him to get some work, but it's a bit of a head scratcher....

Glad someone else was thinking that Point absolutely gave game 1 away no clue what they were thinking not bringing in your all American closer why wouldn't you? If Ferry were ever going to throw wouldn't that have been the perfect opportunity and to take game 1 at La Crosse would've been huge and they needed to take 3 or 4 IMO!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 11, 2023, 10:51:26 AM
Eau Claire: 8, 3
WARHAWKS: 10, 12

Game one was a back and forth affair.  EC got a solo home run in their first at bat for the early lead but the WARHAWKS plated a pair in their half of the inning.  EC matched that pair to regain the lead 3-2 in the second but once again the WARHAWKS retook the lead with 6-3 with four runs in their second.  That lead stood for the third inning but in the fourth EC plated another pair to pull within a run and then added another run in the fifth to gain a 6-6 tie.  But the WARHAWKS pushed a pair across in their half of the inning, regaining the lead 8-6, only to have EC rally for another pair and tie the game at 8's in the sixth.  That didn't last however as the WARHAWKS pushed a run across in the seventh to go up 9-8 and Sam Paden followed with three shutout innings of relief, the WARHAWKS added an insurance run in the bottom of the eighth for the final 10-8 win.  With the exception of Paden it was a rough day for the pitching staffs as the two teams combined for 24 hits, 12 of which were for extra bases.  Sam Vomhof paced WARHAWK batters going 4x5 with 4 RBI and 3RS.  Alex Najera went 3x5 which included a pair of triples and 3 RBI.  Danny Hooper picked up the win and Paden picked up his 2nd save of the season.  Cade Berendt (2-0) picked up the win in game two striking out 7 and allowing 3 earned runs on 7 hits in 6 innings.  Eli Frank finished the game surrendering a single hit and striking out 3 in 3 innings of relief.  Paden followed up his pitching performance by going 3x5 with 3 RBI and 2 RS to lead the 14 hit WARHAWK offense.  Jacob DeMeyer, Vomhof, Nick Paget and Adam Cootway each had a pair of hits.

The WARHAWKS will play an nonconference game vs Ripon today.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 11, 2023, 11:51:39 AM
BW-Any idea who is responsible for the official stats for the baseball team?  I'd assume the SID, but was just curious....

The reason I ask is that there have been some "weird" scoring decisions this year...  For example, when they played Edgewood earlier this season, Eisenbrath pitched the final three innings of the game, and since Whitewater won, he should be credited with a "save."  (Nevermind the fact that the score was 8-5 when Eisenbrath entered the game, as the score doesn't matter...)  The same thing happened in Whitewater's 14-4 over Grinnell earlier this year where Brandl threw the final three innings and again yesterday in Game #2 vs Eau Claire with Eli Frank.  He pitched the final three innings and should also be credited with a save.

The one that really made me scratch my head though was when Huseboe was credited with a win earlier this season against Carroll despite only pitching three innings and giving up four runs.  Bretl came on in relief and threw three scoreless innings.  It sure would seem he was more deserving of the win than Huseboe, considering starting pitchers need to go five innings to earn a victory.  The same thing happened in their 16-5 victory over Eau Claire where Pettit only went four innings but was still credited with the win. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: mr_b on April 11, 2023, 03:09:51 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 11, 2023, 11:51:39 AM
The one that really made me scratch my head though was when Huseboe was credited with a win earlier this season against Carroll despite only pitching three innings and giving up four runs.  Bretl came on in relief and threw three scoreless innings.  It sure would seem he was more deserving of the win than Huseboe, considering starting pitchers need to go five innings to earn a victory.  The same thing happened in their 16-5 victory over Eau Claire where Pettit only went four innings but was still credited with the win.
I can't say this was the case for the game in question, but I've heard that head coaches can agree before a game to waive the 5-inning minimum rule regarding starting pitchers.  This allows for a starter to go an inning or two and get credited with the win if they leave with a lead and the team holds on to that leave. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 11, 2023, 04:41:26 PM
Quote from: mr_b on April 11, 2023, 03:09:51 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 11, 2023, 11:51:39 AM
The one that really made me scratch my head though was when Huseboe was credited with a win earlier this season against Carroll despite only pitching three innings and giving up four runs.  Bretl came on in relief and threw three scoreless innings.  It sure would seem he was more deserving of the win than Huseboe, considering starting pitchers need to go five innings to earn a victory.  The same thing happened in their 16-5 victory over Eau Claire where Pettit only went four innings but was still credited with the win.
I can't say this was the case for the game in question, but I've heard that head coaches can agree before a game to waive the 5-inning minimum rule regarding starting pitchers.  This allows for a starter to go an inning or two and get credited with the win if they leave with a lead and the team holds on to that leave.
I've heard of that same stipulation, however when one pitcher has a line of 3 IP, 4 Runs Allowed, and the other has a line of 3 IP, 0 Runs Allowed, you'd think common sense might prevail?

I know Whitewater has a new SID this year, so I'd be willing to wager that's why there are some questions this year compared to years past?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 11, 2023, 08:24:13 PM
cubs check you private messages.

Ripon: 1
WARHAWKS: 11 7 inn.

This was decided early as the WARHAWKS used a home run from Adam Cootway, a sac fly from Matt Scolon and pair of 2 RBI doubles by Jacob DeMeyer and Donovan Brandl in the second inning to plate 6 runs for the early lead.  The WARHAWKS added three runs in the fifth and a single run in the sixth to go up 10-0.  However Ripon plated a run in the top of seventh forcing  the WARHAWKS to bat once more when DeMeyer hit an RBI single to right field to end the game.  Cootway led the offense going 3x4 with 1 RBI and 2RS.  In addition to Cootway Scolon, DeMeyer (3 RBI) and Matt Korman had multiple hits.  Brandly gets the win allowing a single hit in 4 innings.  Max Husebro threw two scoreless innings allowing a single hit and Logan Eisenbarth surrender the single run (earned) in an inning of relief.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: PauldingLightUP on April 12, 2023, 12:38:06 PM
Looking rainy this weekend. Should get ahead and play Friday, if not Thursday too.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 13, 2023, 12:11:09 AM
How couldn't Point recruit an elite pitcher or get a D1 transfer pitcher after making the World Series. So hard to watch a team that can put up 6 or more runs against pretty much anyone be 13-8 and in a world of hurt if they don't at least earn a split with the warhawks. I'm predicting 27 home runs over the 4 games given the heat thats predicted and due to fact Pointers only really have 2 trustworthy starters and that may be a stretch and the Warhawks same thing.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 13, 2023, 08:46:09 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 13, 2023, 12:11:09 AM
How couldn't Point recruit an elite pitcher or get a D1 transfer pitcher after making the World Series. So hard to watch a team that can put up 6 or more runs against pretty much anyone be 13-8 and in a world of hurt if they don't at least earn a split with the warhawks. I'm predicting 27 home runs over the 4 games given the heat thats predicted and due to fact Pointers only really have 2 trustworthy starters and that may be a stretch and the Warhawks same thing.
Platteville would like to have a word....

4, 5, and 4 runs in three out of the four games against the Pioneers seems to show otherwise?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 13, 2023, 11:04:47 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 13, 2023, 12:11:09 AM
How couldn't Point recruit an elite pitcher or get a D1 transfer pitcher after making the World Series. So hard to watch a team that can put up 6 or more runs against pretty much anyone be 13-8 and in a world of hurt if they don't at least earn a split with the warhawks. I'm predicting 27 home runs over the 4 games given the heat thats predicted and due to fact Pointers only really have 2 trustworthy starters and that may be a stretch and the Warhawks same thing.

Sometimes I can't help but laugh at your expectations and predictions. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on April 13, 2023, 11:53:07 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 13, 2023, 11:04:47 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 13, 2023, 12:11:09 AM
How couldn't Point recruit an elite pitcher or get a D1 transfer pitcher after making the World Series. So hard to watch a team that can put up 6 or more runs against pretty much anyone be 13-8 and in a world of hurt if they don't at least earn a split with the warhawks. I'm predicting 27 home runs over the 4 games given the heat thats predicted and due to fact Pointers only really have 2 trustworthy starters and that may be a stretch and the Warhawks same thing.

Sometimes I can't help but laugh at your expectations and predictions.

You're not the only one.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 14, 2023, 09:21:32 PM
WARHAWKS: 8, 11
Stevens Point: 10, 10

WARHAWKS score first with a run in their first at bat but the Pointers plated 3 in their third and added a fourth in the fourth.  The WARHAWKS matched that run in the fifth to pull with a pair 4-2 however the Pointers countered with 2 in their fifth and added another in the sixth to go up 7-2.  Scoring four in the seventh the WARHAWKS cut the deficit to one, 7-6.  However after two outs the Pointers pushed 3 unearned runs across when the WARHAWKS infield committed consecutive errors increasing the lead to 10-6.  The WARHAWKS mounted a rally in the ninth scoring twice and brining the tying run to the plate but Ferry's strikeout ended the game.  Donovan Brandl took the loss pitching 4 innings allowing 5 hits, 4 runs (3 earned) walking and striking out a pair each.  Matt Scolon (2x5) and Matt Korman (2x4) had multiple hits and Sam Paden drove in a pair of runs. 
Things looked good when the WARHAWKS scored 5 runs in the first inning of game two.  That is until the Pointers came to bat and battered Trey Bretl for 8 runs (7 earned) on four hits, a pair of HBP and a walk and added a ninth run off of reliever Logan Eisenbarth to take a 9-5 lead.  The WARHAWKS cut the deficit in half with a pair of runs in the third, 9-7 but the Pointers added a run in their sixth making it 10-7.  This time the WARHAWKS rally was successful as they scored 4 runs in their seventh and Max Huseboe and Sam Paden combined to finish the game with three shutout innings.  Eisenbarth got the win pitching 6 innings of relief allowing 3 hits, 2 runs (1 earned), walking a pair and striking out 6.  Paden was credited with a save.  The WARHAWKS offense was potent slugging 19 hits.  Jacob DeMeyer (5x6, RBI), Adam Cootway (4x6, RBI), Paden (4x4, RBI), Frazier Bennett (2x5, 2 RBI) all had multiple hits. 

The teams combined for 51 hits.  It'll be interesting to see what happens tomorrow. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 15, 2023, 03:58:49 PM
What happens now if Point and Whitewater can't finish this game with Pointers up 6-3 in bottom of 6th? I had feeling this was going to happen.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 15, 2023, 07:04:10 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 15, 2023, 03:58:49 PM
What happens now if Point and Whitewater can't finish this game with Pointers up 6-3 in bottom of 6th? I had feeling this was going to happen.
Anyone who has followed baseball for any amount of time knows that once five innings are completed, the game is considered official in the event of inclement weather....

EDIT-It can be just 4 1/2 Innings if the home team has the lead...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 15, 2023, 09:18:23 PM
It's been a while since it's happened where I was watching a pointer game and a situation like this came about and rules in  all sports change often. I'm sure players are thrilled to get a W and take 3 out of 4 vs Warhawks. Got 1 of the Plattville losses back still so much work to do!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 16, 2023, 02:07:03 PM
With LaCrosse coming this weekend Point was a tough series for the WARHAWKS

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 20, 2023, 11:27:58 AM
WARHAWKS: 6
Milw. School of Engineering: 3      11 innings

Donovan Brandl's RBI double gave the WARHAWKS and early 1-0 lead and Matt Korman's double drove in a pair of runs to increase the lead to 3-0 in the fourth.  That lead stood until the sixth inning when MSOE plated a pair to cut the deficit to a single run and then tied the game with a run in the eighth.   After scoreless 9th and 10th innings the WARHAWKS loaded the bases in the eleventh and David Rubin's single drove in a pair of runs. After reloading the bases Joe Gordon was HBP to score another.  MSOE managed to bring the tying run to the plate with two outs but Cade Hansen ended the inning with a ground ball out.  The teams combined to use 17 different pitchers who combined to strikeout 34 hitters.  Cade Berendt got the win allowing a single hit and striking out a pair in two innings of relief.  Adam Cootway (2-4) was the only WARHAWK with multiple hits. 

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 22, 2023, 07:40:22 PM
Today's DH's saw not much change at the top, but it did create further separation between the top four and bottom three teams in the WIAC....

La Crosse used a pair of complete games from their pitchers to sweep Whitewater today...  I thought it was a bit curious to see UWL throw Katz 145 pitches today in the opener however.  I'll be curious to see how Katz responds moving forward for a team that likely has hopes at a Regional/Super Regionals/World Series run....

UWO sweeps Platteville in a pair of mercy-rule shortened games....

Point sweeps Stout thanks to a two run rally in 9th inning rally in the nightcap after Ferry gives up a solo HR in the top half of the inning to break a 4-4 tie.

La Crosse 11-3
UWO 11-3
Stevens Point 9-5
Whitewater 7-7
Platteville 7-11
Stout 4-10
Eau Claire 1-11
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 23, 2023, 06:11:52 PM
More of the same on the baseball fields today, as La Crosse, UWO and Stevens Point finished off four game sweeps of Whitewater, Platteville, and Stout respectively....

La Crosse 13-3 (Clinched WIAC Tournament berth)
UWO 13-3 (Clinched WIAC Tournament berth)
Stevens Point 11-5
Whitewater 7-9
Platteville 7-13
Stout 4-12
Eau Claire 1-11

The La Crosse vs UWO series next weekend will go along way in determining the regular season champion and the #1 seed & host for the WIAC Tournament....  At this point, I'd be VERY surprised if it was anyone besides Stevens Point and Whitewater joining La Crosse and UWO in the WIAC Tournament this season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 23, 2023, 07:31:50 PM
We couldn't hit the ball today.  Five hits in game one, eight in game two but four of those came in our last at bat.  The season is heading south in a hurry.  Fortunately we've got Stout and Platteville remaining.  The fourth position in the conference tournament could come down to that series.  Hopefully we can get back on track in Stout and strengthen our position.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: PauldingLightUP on April 26, 2023, 09:06:07 PM
Big La Crosse at Oshkosh series moved up to Friday/Saturday.

Seems like Friday and Sunday are actually the best days weather wise.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 26, 2023, 09:44:11 PM
WARHAWKS: 14
Carthage: 8

Trailing 3-0 the WARHAWKS rallied with 6 runs but promptly lost that lead when Carthage got a grand slam and reclaimed it 7-6.  However the WARHAWKS scored 3 in the fourth and 2 in the fifth and seventh.  Carthage got a run in the seventh before the WARHAWKS matched it with one in the ninth.  Carson Bresser got the win in relief allowing a single run on 6 hits with a walk and 5 strikeouts in 4,2 innings. Jacob DeMeyer and Darryl Jackson each had 3 hits.  Matt Scolon, Bennett Frazier and Sam Paden each had a pair of hits.  Paden had a home run.

The win was Coach Vodenlich's 700th career win.

Edgewood tomorrow at home. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 28, 2023, 11:20:35 AM
Edgewood: 10
WARHAWKS: 11  11 innings

Matt Korman's eleventh inning, two out single drove in the winning run as the WARHAWKS rallied after blowing a 5 run lead in the ninth.  Cruising with a 8-2 going into the eighth inning WARHAWKS looked to be closing out the game with no problem.  However Edgewood started hitting and scored a pair in the eighth and then a ridiculous six runs in their ninth to take a 10-8 lead.  Adam Cootway's two RBI triple in the ninth tied the game and after a scoreless tenth Korman came through in the clutch saving us from an embarrassing loss.  Korman's game winning single was his fourth hit of the day.  Sam Paden had three hits.   Reserve catcher Charlie Borgue had a pair of hits.  Jake DeMeyer had a pair of home runs. Eli Frank got the win after pitching a scoreless eleventh inning and striking out two.  Frank was the 12th WARHAWKS pitcher of the evening. 

Next: At Stout
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 28, 2023, 01:55:59 PM
Quote from: PauldingLightUP on April 26, 2023, 09:06:07 PM
Big La Crosse at Oshkosh series moved up to Friday/Saturday.

Seems like Friday and Sunday are actually the best days weather wise.
If you're Stevens Point, you're probably pulling for UWO to take three out of four from La Crosse this weekend, since you'd then control your chance at a regular season WIAC Championship and the #1 seed in the WIAC Tournament when you host UWO next weekend, assuming the Pointers take care of business against Eau Claire this weekend....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 28, 2023, 04:40:16 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 22, 2023, 07:40:22 PM
La Crosse used a pair of complete games from their pitchers to sweep Whitewater today...  I thought it was a bit curious to see UWL throw Katz 145 pitches today in the opener however.  I'll be curious to see how Katz responds moving forward for a team that likely has hopes at a Regional/Super Regionals/World Series run....
No ill-effects from last weekends extended outing for Katz this afternoon, as he went eight innings and held UWO to a measly two runs (on 106 pitches) in the Eagles 8-2 winner in the series opener....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 29, 2023, 07:06:08 PM
La Crosse all but has the #1 seed wrapped up and it will be an interesting series between Oshkosh and Point next weekend. If they split Point would get the #2 seed I believe based on both teams splitting with La Crosse and Point winning 3 of 4 vs Whitewater and Oshkosh winning 2 of 4. Whitewater would need to win the WIAC tournament to get in and as good as the top 3 teams are can it be expected all 3 make regionals? Seems Points pitching is coming together with Nick Paulson throwing well his last few outings.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 30, 2023, 12:22:34 AM
Is Logan Mattson hurt? He was in line up and got hit by pitch early game 1 apparently and didn't stay in game or play the next game? That would be a huge loss for the Pointers if he's out for Oshkosh series or later!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: PauldingLightUP on April 30, 2023, 10:30:51 AM
Take back what I said earlier in the week about the best days to play. Was actually Friday and Saturday. So shortsighted by all four teams not to move their series up. Postponed at Stout and Eau Claire today.

Point really needs the wins for their chance at the title.

Was mostly blowouts both ways, but La Crosse and Oshkosh got their split series in. Some fun moments along the way in Oshkosh.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 30, 2023, 11:08:33 AM
WARHAWKS: 12, 19
Stout: 3, 0

The WARHAWKS had very little problem with Stout in the first two games pounding out thirty-one runs on forty hits including nine home runs.  Adam Cootway led the way going 7x8 scoring 5 runs and driving in 8.  Cootway had a pair of home runs. Sam Paden and Matt Korman (3HR) each had home runs and 6 RBIs.  Matt Scolon had a home run and drove in 4 runs.  Also driving in runs were Jake DeMeyer (HR, 2 RBI), Donovan Brandl (1 RBI), Ryan Norton (1) and Darryl Jackson (1).  Max Huseboe got the win in game one allowing 3 runs on 4 hits with 4 strikeouts in 5.2 innings.  Logan Eisenbarth got the win in game two.  Eisenbarth allowed 1 hit and struck out 2 in 2 scoreless innings of relief. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 30, 2023, 11:13:55 AM
You said what I wanted to say but had a different term to use for whomever decided to not move the games up so dumb and if Point doesn't get the Ws not only does it screw their chance of conference title it also most likely would make it where they'd have to for sure win 3 of 4 Vs Oshkosh and then take no worse than 2nd at WIAC tournament. With the 2 wins vs Eau Claire they'd be 25-9 and if they split Vs Oshkosh would be 27-11 and if they'd finish even 1-2 at WIAC tournament would be 28-13 which it would be tough to leave them out of regionals.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 30, 2023, 02:32:53 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 30, 2023, 11:13:55 AM
You said what I wanted to say but had a different term to use for whomever decided to not move the games up so dumb and if Point doesn't get the Ws not only does it screw their chance of conference title it also most likely would make it where they'd have to for sure win 3 of 4 Vs Oshkosh and then take no worse than 2nd at WIAC tournament. With the 2 wins vs Eau Claire they'd be 25-9 and if they split Vs Oshkosh would be 27-11 and if they'd finish even 1-2 at WIAC tournament would be 28-13 which it would be tough to leave them out of regionals.
You must have a short memory...  All you need to do is look at 2021 and see that it's not just about the record your preferred WIAC finishes with.  You have to hope for few "upsets" come conference tournament time or that already small Pool C bubble shrinks even more!

Point went 24-4 in WIAC Play in 2021 and finished 32-11 overall, better than your predicted 28-13 record, and was left on the outside looking in when Regional bids were awarded.  La Crosse finished 30-13 that year and was also left out of postseason play.

If you truly want to feel "safe" come tournament time, your best bet is to win your conference tournament...  If unable to do that, having your total losses be in the single digits is your next best bet.  With that said, there isn't a single WIAC team that ends up in the Pool C conversation that will be able to do that this season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 01, 2023, 02:12:38 PM
Thanks you are definitely correct and even a team whose ranked in top 25 may be left out if there are a ton of upsets. Anyone know what's wrong with Logan Mattson or am I the only on one who thinks it's a massive loss? Is he injured or just replaced? I know there's a lot of talent on the roster and some real solid kids who started last year were replaced.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 01, 2023, 02:30:32 PM
Quote from: PauldingLightUP on April 30, 2023, 10:30:51 AM
Take back what I said earlier in the week about the best days to play. Was actually Friday and Saturday. So shortsighted by all four teams not to move their series up. Postponed at Stout and Eau Claire today.
Games being played as scheduled today at both Stout and Eau Claire...

Whitewater out to an early 5-1 lead while Eau Claire pushed a run across in the first inning to take a 1-0 lead.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 01, 2023, 02:44:40 PM
Looks like Homolka made a costly error that's why I'm asking why Comer's at Short and Mattson not playing!  IMO it's a huge loss defensively with Mattson not at short.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: PauldingLightUP on May 01, 2023, 04:33:58 PM
Stout at Eau Claire second doubleheader now scheduled for this Wednesday.  ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 02, 2023, 08:52:42 AM
La Crosse 15-5 (Clinched WIAC Tournament berth)
UWO 15-5 (Clinched WIAC Tournament berth)
Stevens Point 15-5 (Clinched WIAC Tournament berth)
Whitewater 11-9
Platteville 7-13
Stout 4-16
Eau Claire 1-15

-Whitewater will clinch the fourth and final spot in the WIAC Tournament with just one win this weekend against Platteville.

-It ill be interesting to see the plan of attack for UWO and Stevens Point this weekend, as the odds are pretty good that they'll be facing each other again in the opening round of the WIAC Tournament.  How do you balance improving your Pool C resume -vs- giving yourself the best shot at winning your first game of the WIAC Tournament and in turn improving your chances at winning the automatic Pool A bid?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 02, 2023, 09:36:40 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 02, 2023, 08:52:42 AM
La Crosse 15-5 (Clinched WIAC Tournament berth)
UWO 15-5 (Clinched WIAC Tournament berth)
Stevens Point 15-5 (Clinched WIAC Tournament berth)
Whitewater 11-9
Platteville 7-13
Stout 4-16
Eau Claire 1-15

-Whitewater will clinch the fourth and final spot in the WIAC Tournament with just one win this weekend against Platteville.

-It ill be interesting to see the plan of attack for UWO and Stevens Point this weekend, as the odds are pretty good that they'll be facing each other again in the opening round of the WIAC Tournament.  How do you balance improving your Pool C resume -vs- giving yourself the best shot at winning your first game of the WIAC Tournament and in turn improving your chances at winning the automatic Pool A bid?

+1!  Win the 1st game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 02, 2023, 09:51:14 AM
Btw, Pat, Jim or Ralph...

For those following the conference tournaments on the "Playoff Central" page of d3baseball.com, it would be beneficial to edit the WIAC Tournament set-up.  It has the Top 6 seeds making it with #3-#6 doing "play-in" games.  That is inaccurate, as it is just #1-#4 teams that qualify for the WIAC Tournament.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 02, 2023, 11:11:46 AM
WARHAWKS: 18, 15
Stout: 2, 5                                               7 innings

The WARHAWKS picked up where they left off yesterday sweeping Stout with a pair of run rule wins.  Adam Cootway continued his hot hitting going 5x9 with 10 RBIs and 7 runs scored.  Cootway hit a pair of 3 run home runs on consecutive at bats in game two and had a home run in the first game giving him 6 home runs for the weekend.  Cootway's weekend read 12x17, 12 RS and 18 RBI.
Matt Scolon, Charlie Bogue and Eli Frank (2) also hit home runs.  As a team the WARHAWKS hit 4 home runs yesterday and 13 for the series.  After pitching 4 innings on Saturday Cole Berendt got the start and win in game one.  Berendt went 5 innings allowing 4 hits, 2 earned runs and striking out 7.  Donovan Brandl picked up the win in game two with a 1 hit, 1 earned run and 4 strikeouts in four innings. 

Next: Carroll tomorrow at home
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 02, 2023, 11:34:56 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 02, 2023, 11:11:46 AM

Matt Scolon, Charlie Bogue and Eli Frank (2) also hit home runs.
Not a bad season debut at the plate for Eli Frank!

I wonder if he'll be in the lineup on Wednesday against Carroll? ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 03, 2023, 09:29:14 AM
UWO takes another "hit" to their Pool C resume, as they dropped a nonconference game to MSOE last night 5-4....  This gives MSOE the season sweep over UWO, as they defeated the Titans by an identical 5-4 score earlier this season....

MSOE is likely in a Pool A or bust position themselves, as Aurora is running away with the NACC this season....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 03, 2023, 04:29:39 PM
Region 9 Regional Rankings (Week #2)

1   Buena Vista   29-7
2   Wisconsin-La Crosse   24-8
3   Wisconsin-Oshkosh   24-8
4   Bethel (Minnesota)   22-6
5   Wisconsin-Stevens Point   23-9
6   Wisconsin-Whitewater   21-11
7   Loras   24-13
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 03, 2023, 07:59:27 PM
WARHAWKS: 14
Carroll: 2                                             7 inn


The WARHAWKS had little trouble with Carroll today getting off to 9-0 and 13-1 leads by the fourth inning.  Matt Korman drove in 4 runs on three hits to lead six WARHAWKS who drove in runs.  Sam Paden drove in 3 on a pair of doubles.  Adam Cootway stayed hot going 4x5 and driving in a pair of runs.  Daryll Jackson drove in a pair.  The WARHAWKS used three pitchers.  Carson Bresser got the start (3IP, 3H, 1ER, 2K).  Trey Bretl got the win (2IP, 1H, 1ER, 3K).  Logan Eisenbarth finished the final 2 innings allowing a hit and striking out two.

Platteville at home Friday/Saturday

Note to cubs:  Eli Frank was DH (2x4, 2RS, 1 RBI).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 04, 2023, 08:45:27 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 03, 2023, 07:59:27 PM
Note to cubs:  Eli Frank was DH (2x4, 2RS, 1 RBI).
Thanks BW....  I have a feeling he might be a regular fixture in the lineup for a bit?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 06, 2023, 10:03:37 AM
Platteville: 3, 6
WARHAWKS: 17, 20    7 inn (2)

Adam Cootway was the story of the day as the WARHAWKS pounded Platteville.  Cootway became the seventh player in WARHAWKS program history to hit for the cycle which included a pair of home runs in game one.  He also came within a triple of hitting for the cycle in game two.  His stat line for the day read 8x8, 7 RS, 12 RBI and 21 TB.  Matt Scolon came within a home run of hitting for the cycle in game one. Sam Paden and Matt Korman each drove in 3 runs in addition to Cootway's 6 RBI.  Max Husboe went the distance on the mound allowing 6 hits, 3 earned runs and striking out 11 with just a single walk.  It was Cootway again leading the way in game two with 6 more RBI.  Daryll Jackson and Charlie Bogue each drove in 4 runs.  Logan Eisenbarth got the win pitching 4 innings and allowing 3 hits, 3 runs (2 earned) and striking out 3.  Eli Frank (2 inn) and Sava Dupor (1 inn) finished the game. 

I know were playing the weaker pitching staffs right now but we're really hitting the ball and scoring runs.  I haven't kept track but a lot of the runs are coming with two outs and we're playing with confidence right now.  An excellent mood to put ourselves in for the conference tournament. 

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 06, 2023, 05:03:38 PM
Well, well, well....

Going into the final WIAC games of the weekend, Stevens Point controls their own destiny as they look to win the regular season championship and the #1 seed in the WIAC Tournament.  Between their sweep of UWO and after Eau Claire upset La Crosse in the nightcap on Friday, a pair of wins by the Pointers on Saturday puts the tournament in Stevens Point next weekend.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 06, 2023, 05:22:31 PM
La Crosse sweeps Eau Claire today, but due to their loss to the Blugolds yesterday, they'll need UWO to knock off Stevens Point in the series finale (currently 0-0 in the 4th inning) to earn a share of the regular season WIAC Championship.  Stevens Point would still host the WIAC Tournament as the #1 seed due to beating UWO three out of four times while La Crosse and UWO split their four game series.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 06, 2023, 05:54:55 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 02, 2023, 08:52:42 AM
It ill be interesting to see the plan of attack for UWO and Stevens Point this weekend, as the odds are pretty good that they'll be facing each other again in the opening round of the WIAC Tournament.  How do you balance improving your Pool C resume -vs- giving yourself the best shot at winning your first game of the WIAC Tournament and in turn improving your chances at winning the automatic Pool A bid?
Well, UWO kept their "ace," LJ Waco, on the bench this weekend in Stevens Point...  Should Stevens Point win the series finale this afternoon, UWO and Stevens Point would meet each other again in the opening round of the WIAC Tournament next weekend.  I'm guessing once UWO dropped both games on Friday, that gave Waco the weekend off so that the Pointer hitters wouldn't get to see him twice in a matter of a week.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on May 06, 2023, 06:14:17 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 06, 2023, 05:22:31 PM
La Crosse sweeps Eau Claire today, but due to their loss to the Blugolds yesterday, they'll need UWO to knock off Stevens Point in the series finale (currently 0-0 in the 4th inning) to earn a share of the regular season WIAC Championship and host the WIAC Tournament as the #1 seed.

Why would La Crosse host and be the 1 seed if Point and La Crosse tie for the conference?  Wouldn't it go to record against teams in descending standings order?  Point and La Crosse split, Oshkosh would be the 3 seed if they beat Point in game 4 today...Point would be 3-1 vs Oshkosh while La Crosse split with Oshkosh.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 06, 2023, 06:41:12 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on May 06, 2023, 06:14:17 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 06, 2023, 05:22:31 PM
La Crosse sweeps Eau Claire today, but due to their loss to the Blugolds yesterday, they'll need UWO to knock off Stevens Point in the series finale (currently 0-0 in the 4th inning) to earn a share of the regular season WIAC Championship and host the WIAC Tournament as the #1 seed.
Why would La Crosse host and be the 1 seed if Point and La Crosse tie for the conference?  Wouldn't it go to record against teams in descending standings order?  Point and La Crosse split, Oshkosh would be the 3 seed if they beat Point in game 4 today...Point would be 3-1 vs Oshkosh while La Crosse split with Oshkosh.
You are correct...  I was looking at Whitewater as the #3 which was obviously incorrect.

I edited my post above....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 06, 2023, 06:48:44 PM
Stevens Point gets a pair of solo HR's from their #9 hitter and part time starter Kyle Finger to finish off the four game sweep of UWO with a 3-2 victory.

Stevens Point wins their last 14 WIAC games (and 15 overall) to win the WIAC Regular Season Championship and earn the right to host the WIAC Tournament as the #1 seed.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 06, 2023, 06:59:01 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on April 29, 2023, 07:06:08 PM
La Crosse all but has the #1 seed wrapped up and it will be an interesting series between Oshkosh and Point next weekend. If they split Point would get the #2 seed I believe based on both teams splitting with La Crosse and Point winning 3 of 4 vs Whitewater and Oshkosh winning 2 of 4. Whitewater would need to win the WIAC tournament to get in and as good as the top 3 teams are can it be expected all 3 make regionals? Seems Points pitching is coming together with Nick Paulson throwing well his last few outings.
Good call!  At least you're consistent!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 06, 2023, 09:48:07 PM
In my defense who in the world thought La Crosse was losing at home vs Eau Claire or Point was sweeping the titans? I'd say the odds were extremely thin but I'll take it as there's no chance the committee isn't taking the Pointers even if they don't win the conference tournament.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2023, 08:48:53 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 03, 2023, 04:29:39 PM
Region 9 Regional Rankings (Week #2)

1   Buena Vista   29-7
2   Wisconsin-La Crosse   24-8
3   Wisconsin-Oshkosh   24-8
4   Bethel (Minnesota)   22-6
5   Wisconsin-Stevens Point   23-9
6   Wisconsin-Whitewater   21-11
7   Loras   24-13
Will be interesting to see how the WIAC teams get shuffled in the next release of the Regional Rankings, with UWO going 0-5, Stevens Point going 6-0, which included a 4-game series sweep of previously #3 UWO, Whitewater going 7-0, and La Crosse going 4-1 since the previous release.

Does Stevens Point leapfrog La Crosse by virtue of their regular season WIAC Championship?  Would seem like that's a "no-brainer" considering the overall records are practically the same....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2023, 08:57:48 AM
WIAC Tournament begins on Thursday....

#1 Stevens Point vs #4 UWO (Schultz or Paulsen vs Waco?)
#2 La Crosse vs #3 Whitewater (Katz vs Bernedt?)

Should be some great weather for the WIAC Tournament this year and excited to see what the pitching match-ups are for the opening round games!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 10, 2023, 04:35:32 PM
Region 9 Regional Rankings (Week #3)

1   Buena Vista 29-7 (N/C)
2   Wisconsin-Stevens Point 29-9 (Up 3 Spots)
3   Wisconsin-La Crosse   28-9   (Down 1 Spot)
4   Wisconsin-Whitewater 28-11 (Up 2 Spots)
5   Bethel (Minnesota) 26-8 (Down 1 Spot)
6   Wisconsin-Oshkosh 24-13 (Down 3 Spots)
7   Coe   22-15 (New Entry)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 10, 2023, 11:41:28 PM
I honestly don't know how they'll approach it but also believe you're right in that it has to be one of those 2 guys starting. I know you had said the best way to make regionals is to win your conference tournament and I obviously agree but I also feel if the Pointers win at least 1 game and don't go 2 and done there's no way possible the regular season conference champion is staying home! If they win it though they're in and hosting a favorable couple of games I'd think and the last thing I want to see is for Whitewater to get in just seems they've hit their stride now and are very dangerous! They probably absolutely have to win the tournament right or what if they make the finals and lose? Anyways good luck to all teams and my guess is there will be some bombs hit so should be entertaining
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 11, 2023, 01:08:58 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 09, 2023, 08:57:48 AM
WIAC Tournament begins on Thursday....

#1 Stevens Point vs #4 UWO (Schultz or Paulsen vs Waco?)
Paulsen vs Brinkman it is....

Paulsen beat UWO 9-1 last weekend giving up that lone run in seven innings of work, while the Pointers defeated Brinkman 7-2 in the series opener.  Brinkman allowed all seven runs to score in his six innings on the mound.

Will history repeat itself, or will the outcome be different today?

I'll definitely be keeping an eye on when/if Waco throws this weekend.  If he doesn't, it makes me think there might be an injury after he didn't throw a single pitch last weekend.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 11, 2023, 01:17:27 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 10, 2023, 11:41:28 PM
I honestly don't know how they'll approach it but also believe you're right in that it has to be one of those 2 guys starting. I know you had said the best way to make regionals is to win your conference tournament and I obviously agree but I also feel if the Pointers win at least 1 game and don't go 2 and done there's no way possible the regular season conference champion is staying home! If they win it though they're in and hosting a favorable couple of games I'd think and the last thing I want to see is for Whitewater to get in just seems they've hit their stride now and are very dangerous! They probably absolutely have to win the tournament right or what if they make the finals and lose? Anyways good luck to all teams and my guess is there will be some bombs hit so should be entertaining
Does this count as the annual ShineTime "kiss of death?"

No doubt Whitewater has a dangerous lineup, but I'm still a little skeptical....  I don't think they have the pitching depth to make a run this year, and let's not forget that their offensive spike (which coincides with their current 11 game winning streak) was against Edgewood, Carthage, Carroll, Stout and Platteville.  Edgewood is probably the best team of that bunch and all three of their potential opponents this weekend have stronger squads than Edgewood.  There's a reason Whitewater combined to go 3-9 this season against La Crosse (0-4,) Oshkosh (2-2,) and Stevens Point (1-3.)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 11, 2023, 01:24:21 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 01, 2023, 02:12:38 PM
Anyone know what's wrong with Logan Mattson or am I the only on one who thinks it's a massive loss? Is he injured or just replaced?
Now that the WIAC Tournament has started and the lineup is out, I'll share that Mattson was hit by a pitch in the face against Eau Claire....  There was a concern that there might be some facial fractures, so he went and visited a specialist last weekend.  His availability moving forward is literally a week-to-week thing.  Obviously the longer the Pointers season goes, the odds of him returning increase, however I wouldn't get my hopes up....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: PauldingLightUP on May 11, 2023, 03:15:57 PM
Long road back in the losers bracket for the hosts as Oshkosh beats Point 5-3. Fifth time was the charm.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 11, 2023, 03:16:56 PM
Stevens Point pulls Paulsen after just four innings and a 2-1 lead....  UWO greets Beyer with a three-spot in his one inning of work, capped by a 2-run HR from Shiu, and makes it hold up for the 5-3 victory.  (Shiu added a solo HR in the 8th inning off of Carpenter.) 

Stevens Point had a chance to tie it up but stranded the bases loaded in the 8th inning after Logan King struck out Homolka on a full count pitch.

Brinkman was outstanding for UWO, making just a pair of mistakes in the fourth inning (a double to Canterbury which was immediately followed by a 2-run HR by Oliver.)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: PauldingLightUP on May 11, 2023, 03:40:42 PM
I think I maybe posted the same thing last year. But, I'm of the belief that the day one winners should play first on day two, so they have some rest time for game 5 if they lose the 1-0 game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 11, 2023, 04:15:14 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 09, 2023, 08:57:48 AM
WIAC Tournament begins on Thursday....

#2 La Crosse vs #3 Whitewater (Katz vs Bernedt?)
Katz vs Huseboe to start Game #2....

Interesting choice going with Huseboe, although he did give up just a single run over 8.2 IP in a pair of relief appearances against the Eagles earlier this season...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 11, 2023, 05:42:55 PM
All 4 of these teams in my opinion are top 10-15 teams in the nation when they're hot and it's not shocking the Pointers fell to the titans today especially given the fact Oshkosh has some outstanding pitchers. Point now is looking at facing Whitewaters best but the way Point pulled Paulsen after 4 kind of makes me wonder if they're plan going in was to only throw their top 4 pitchers x amount of pitches who knows but going 0-2 in your conference tournament has to hurt where you play next week.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: PauldingLightUP on May 11, 2023, 06:36:02 PM
La Crosse walks off Whitewater on a two run error, 14-4 in seven.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 12, 2023, 09:00:45 AM
Despite not hitting on either pitching match-up yesterday, I 'll say we see Schultz vs Berendt in the elimination game this morning at 10:00 AM between Stevens Point and Whitewater and then Anderson vs Walters (assuming Waco is unavailable) in the Winner's Bracket game that sees La Crosse taking on UWO...

Should be a fun filled day of WIAC baseball with three games on the schedule for today!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 12, 2023, 09:19:38 AM
Quote from: PauldingLightUP on May 11, 2023, 03:40:42 PM
I think I maybe posted the same thing last year. But, I'm of the belief that the day one winners should play first on day two, so they have some rest time for game 5 if they lose the 1-0 game.
From a players standpoint, I'd much rather play the second game on Day #2 of the tournament as a winner.....

1.  I get a chance to "sleep in" instead of being up at 6:30 for breakfast before heading to the field for BP with the 10:00 start.
2.  If we lose, I'm not sitting around waiting for an entire game to be played and then going through the entire process of "warming up" again...
3.  We've played DH's all season, and that is essentially what you are doing if you lose your first game today and play the next game.

Since 2002, when the current format was adopted, the loser of Game #4 (Winner's Bracket Final) has a 13-3*** record in Game #5 where they turn around and play right away.  It's safe to say that playing back-to-back hasn't been much of a disadvantage?

***No WIAC Tournament in 20018 or 2020
***Format in 2010 and 2011 had only the Top 3 teams qualify for the WIAC Tournament
***Format in 2009 had #3 vs #4 in a single elimination game to open the tournament

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 12, 2023, 10:40:15 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 12, 2023, 09:00:45 AM
Despite not hitting on either pitching match-up yesterday, I 'll say we see Schultz vs Berendt in the elimination game this morning at 10:00 AM between Stevens Point and Whitewater and then Anderson vs Walters (assuming Waco is unavailable) in the Winner's Bracket game that sees La Crosse taking on UWO...

Should be a fun filled day of WIAC baseball with three games on the schedule for today!
Make it 0x3....

Pickering vs Berendt in the opener at Stevens Point this morning...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 12, 2023, 11:30:43 AM
Pickering isn't fooling anyone thus far... Whitewater with six hits the first time through the order including HR's by Cootway and Korman to jump out to an early lead....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: PauldingLightUP on May 12, 2023, 01:26:20 PM
Point bows out, losing to Whitewater 9-1. Point goes to Pool C. I think they should be in, but seed might not be great after an 0-2 weekend.

Looking forward to Oshkosh and La Crosse. 1-0 game in four team double elimination is so so so huge.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 12, 2023, 01:30:00 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 12, 2023, 11:30:43 AM
Pickering isn't fooling anyone thus far... Whitewater with six hits the first time through the order including HR's by Cootway and Korman to jump out to an early lead....
Comparatively, Berendt was dominant for Whitewater throwing a complete game gem on 120 pitches....  He gave up just three hits and walked two while striking out 8 in the 9-1 Warhawk victory.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 12, 2023, 01:49:27 PM
What seemed to be a strength recently for the Pointers didn't look good the last two days In pitching and their bats were silent also. I'm very concerned about the fact they don't have their normal short stop and it's affecting Comers bat playing short. The Pointers most likely played themselves out of home games next week is my thought but in all honesty I've seen this before where a team was not going into the tournament went 1-2 or 0-2 and still made regionals and did well so I'm not losing hope yet.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 12, 2023, 02:03:06 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 12, 2023, 09:00:45 AM
Despite not hitting on either pitching match-up yesterday, I 'll say we see Schultz vs Berendt in the elimination game this morning at 10:00 AM between Stevens Point and Whitewater and then Anderson vs Walters (assuming Waco is unavailable) in the Winner's Bracket game that sees La Crosse taking on UWO...

Should be a fun filled day of WIAC baseball with three games on the schedule for today!
Can't say I'm not consistent!   ;D

Make it 0x4, as La Crosse goes with the freshman Deprez, while UWO counters with Walters in the Winner's Bracket game....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 12, 2023, 02:37:48 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 12, 2023, 01:49:27 PM
What seemed to be a strength recently for the Pointers didn't look good the last two days In pitching and their bats were silent also. I'm very concerned about the fact they don't have their normal short stop and it's affecting Comers bat playing short. The Pointers most likely played themselves out of home games next week is my thought but in all honesty I've seen this before where a team was not going into the tournament went 1-2 or 0-2 and still made regionals and did well so I'm not losing hope yet.
I'm not sure the stats back that up though....

Going into the WIAC Tournament, Comer had started seven games at shortstop since Mattson was hit by a pitch.  In those seven games he went 11x28, which comes out to a .357 average.  Comer's season average is .373, so it's a pretty minute difference when comparing his numbers while starting at shortstop or elsewhere.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 12, 2023, 04:45:03 PM
UWO hits Deprez around early and gets out a an 8-2 lead only to see La Crosse mount a furious comeback in the ninth inning to score four runs and tie things up 8-8....  To extra innings we go!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 12, 2023, 04:59:59 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 12, 2023, 04:45:03 PM
UWO hits Deprez around early and gets out a an 8-2 lead only to see La Crosse mount a furious comeback in the ninth inning to score four runs and tie things up 8-8....  To extra innings we go!
La Crosse holds UWO scoreless in the Top of the 10th and then scores via single, SAC bunt, single to beat the Titans 9-8 and advance to Saturday....

UWO vs Whitewater in an elimination game in 45 minutes...  I'll say Mulvihill vs Brandl.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 12, 2023, 08:21:18 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 12, 2023, 09:19:38 AM
Since 2002, when the current format was adopted, the loser of Game #4 (Winner's Bracket Final) has a 13-3*** record in Game #5 where they turn around and play right away.  It's safe to say that playing back-to-back hasn't been much of a disadvantage?
You can make that 13-4 now as Whitewater knocks off UWO 12-7 in the final game today....

Whitewater vs La Crosse for the Pool A bid....  Whitewater will need to win a pair of games while La Crosse will only need to win once.  Brandl vs Anderson in the first game tomorrow?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 15, 2023, 09:55:36 AM
La Crosse knocks off Whitewater in the "first" championship game on Saturday to finish off a perfect 3-0 weekend and claim the WIAC Tournament Championship, while also earning the Pool A bid for the WIAC. 

D3baseball released their projected bracket last night, and in addition to La Crosse earning the automatic berth, they also have Stevens Point and Whitewater earning Pool C bids.  The part that I found most interesting though was that all three teams were not only in different four-team Regionals, but also three different Super Regionals.  Under that scenario, were La Crosse, Stevens Point and Whitewater all able to put together a solid weekend of baseball, all three teams could qualify for the D3 College World Series. 

I'm not going to lie though, I'd be a bit skeptical that the committee would set up a bracket that makes that even a possibility, knowing that the likelihood of all three teams winning a Regional AND Super Regional would probably be small...

Looking forward to the bracket being released at 11:00 local time this morning!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 15, 2023, 12:34:41 PM
La Crosse and  maybe surprisingly, Stevens Point, not only make Regional field, but both end up as hosts!

Despite Whitewater being selected in the "Projected Bracket," they are left on the outside and see their season come to an end...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 15, 2023, 04:42:10 PM
I strongly believe Whitewater got screwed and an argument could be made the WIAC should've had 4 teams in. Point may be hosting but I hate they got put up against Augustana not a good matchup in my opinion and from what I was told by an ex player for Point, Logan Mattsons baseball career is most likely over and that's a huge loss. Is Soule the back up short stop? Whitewater in my opinion if not playing La Crosse could've won a lot of games same with Oshkosh it's unfair the WIAC is punished for beating each other and it's really tough to only lose 8-9 games given Platteville and Stout are usually not slouches
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 17, 2023, 06:23:45 PM
FINAL Region 9 Regional Rankings (Week #4)
      
1   Wisconsin-La Crosse 31-9 (Up 2 Spots after winning WIAC Tournament)
2   Wisconsin-Stevens Point 29-11 (Same, despite going 0-2 at WIAC Tournament)
3   Buena Vista 30-9   (Down 2 Spots after going 1-2 at ARC Tournament)
4   Wisconsin-Whitewater 30-13 (Same, after losing in WIAC Tournament Championship)
5   Wisconsin-Oshkosh 25-15 (Up 1 spot after going 1-2 at WIAC Tournament)
6   Bethel (Minnesota) 29-10 (Down 1 spot after winning MIAC Tournament; the two losses to Concordia last Monday definitely impacted their drop)
7   Loras 29-15 (New Entry)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 17, 2023, 06:28:52 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 15, 2023, 04:42:10 PM
I strongly believe Whitewater got screwed and an argument could be made the WIAC should've had 4 teams in. Point may be hosting but I hate they got put up against Augustana not a good matchup in my opinion and from what I was told by an ex player for Point, Logan Mattsons baseball career is most likely over and that's a huge loss. Is Soule the back up short stop? Whitewater in my opinion if not playing La Crosse could've won a lot of games same with Oshkosh it's unfair the WIAC is punished for beating each other and it's really tough to only lose 8-9 games given Platteville and Stout are usually not slouches
I believe Pat has mentioned this in years past, but I don't doubt that there was some voter "fatigue" with Webster being on the board right from the start as the #2 team in Region #8 with #1 Aurora being an automatic qualifier...  After awhile, when a team has been on the board/table, it's not a surprise that they get selected when their resume has been in consideration for s many as 17 different Pool C votes!

Had Buena Vista won the ARC, is Whitewater in the field?  I guess we'll never know, but the odds would've obviously been better!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 19, 2023, 09:53:26 AM
Regionals kick off today with both Stevens Point and La Crosse playing right away this morning... 

Have to think we'll see Paulsen and Katz get the starting nods for each of their respective teams as they try to get off to a 1-0 start in their quest for a Regional Championship?

Btw-Nice to see La Crosse put out a page dedicated to just the Regional that they are hosting so you can get all the information in one place.  Disappointing to see Stevens Point didn't do the same thing on their end...  :-\

https://uwlathletics.com/sports/2023/5/17/BASEBALL_0423131617.aspx
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on May 19, 2023, 10:42:00 AM
Pickering gets the nod against Augustana's ace.  It's a tough draw against Boushele for the Pointers.  I listened to some podcasts and most people following D3 baseball are picking Augustana this morning.  Throw a gem Pickering!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 19, 2023, 11:26:22 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on May 19, 2023, 10:42:00 AM
Pickering gets the nod against Augustana's ace.  It's a tough draw against Boushele for the Pointers.  I listened to some podcasts and most people following D3 baseball are picking Augustana this morning.  Throw a gem Pickering!!
I can see why they'd pick the team with the guy on the mound that has an 8-2 record and a 1.37 ERA....  I'm sure seeing Stevens Point go "two & BBQ" at the WIAC Tournament makes that pick a bit easier as well, despite being the Regional host.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: mwunder on May 19, 2023, 11:32:36 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 19, 2023, 09:53:26 AM
Regionals kick off today with both Stevens Point and La Crosse playing right away this morning... 

Have to think we'll see Paulsen and Katz get the starting nods for each of their respective teams as they try to get off to a 1-0 start in their quest for a Regional Championship?

Btw-Nice to see La Crosse put out a page dedicated to just the Regional that they are hosting so you can get all the information in one place.  Disappointing to see Stevens Point didn't do the same thing on their end...  :-\

https://uwlathletics.com/sports/2023/5/17/BASEBALL_0423131617.aspx

Point sparing no expense with the video feed as well...no play by play or anything.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: mr_b on May 19, 2023, 11:53:43 AM
Quote from: mwunder on May 19, 2023, 11:32:36 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 19, 2023, 09:53:26 AM
Regionals kick off today with both Stevens Point and La Crosse playing right away this morning... 

Have to think we'll see Paulsen and Katz get the starting nods for each of their respective teams as they try to get off to a 1-0 start in their quest for a Regional Championship?

Btw-Nice to see La Crosse put out a page dedicated to just the Regional that they are hosting so you can get all the information in one place.  Disappointing to see Stevens Point didn't do the same thing on their end...  :-\

https://uwlathletics.com/sports/2023/5/17/BASEBALL_0423131617.aspx

Point sparing no expense with the video feed as well...no play by play or anything.
I guess the powers that be are satisfied with the background crowd noise and the PA announcer.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 19, 2023, 01:00:41 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on May 19, 2023, 10:42:00 AM
Pickering gets the nod against Augustana's ace.  Throw a gem Pickering!!
If you're Point, you you can't really complain with the outing Pickering gave you! Five innings of one-run baseball, and then ran into some traffic on the bases in the sixth but still left with a 6-3 lead.

The question now is, can the bullpen can finish it out and get the last six outs for the victory?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 19, 2023, 01:06:51 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 19, 2023, 09:53:26 AM
Have to think we'll see Paulsen and Katz get the starting nods for each of their respective teams as they try to get off to a 1-0 start in their quest for a Regional Championship?
Katz does indeed get the start for La Crosse and they are out to an early 4-0 lead after three innings...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 19, 2023, 01:18:57 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 19, 2023, 01:00:41 PM
The question now is, can the bullpen can finish it out and get the last six outs for the victory?
They sure can!  Syvertson and Ferry combine to go six up-six down and the Pointers win 6-4 to advance to the Winner's Bracket Final tomorrow!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 19, 2023, 02:01:59 PM
Have to give Richter a ton of credit for throwing Pickering after what Whitewater did to him last week.  His decision to throw him most likely will be the reason they advanced if they indeed can make it out.  I did not expect them to score that many runs off of their Ace especially given his ERA and strikeout to walk ratio it's incredible.  Still are going to need the bats to come alive even more to beat Webster I'm guessing.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 19, 2023, 02:27:59 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 19, 2023, 01:06:51 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 19, 2023, 09:53:26 AM
Have to think we'll see Paulsen and Katz get the starting nods for each of their respective teams as they try to get off to a 1-0 start in their quest for a Regional Championship?
Katz does indeed get the start for La Crosse and they are out to an early 4-0 lead after three innings...
WIAC Pitcher of the Year Katz shoves for seven innings (12 K's, 1 BB, 3 hits allowed) as La Crosse cruises to a 10-0 victory and puts the WIAC at 2-0 after the opening day of Regionals...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 19, 2023, 02:29:14 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 19, 2023, 02:01:59 PM
Have to give Richter a ton of credit for throwing Pickering after what Whitewater did to him last week.  His decision to throw him most likely will be the reason they advanced if they indeed can make it out. I did not expect them to score that many runs off of their Ace especially given his ERA and strikeout to walk ratio it's incredible. Still are going to need the bats to come alive even more to beat Webster I'm guessing.
Don't forget Boushele didn't pitch at all in the CCIW Tournament last weekend, so I don't doubt he was on a bit of a pitch count today, especially since he's just a junior....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 21, 2023, 12:02:38 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 15, 2023, 12:34:41 PM
Despite Whitewater being selected in the "Projected Bracket," they are left on the outside and see their season come to an end...
Based on how things have played out with teams from conferences in the Region, I have no doubt that La Crosse and Stevens Point aren't too disappointed seeing Whitewater left out of the bracket.  It's made each of their respective paths to the Super Regional easier in my opinion!  Between Buena Vista's 1-2 showing and Stevens Point's 20-1 thrashing of Webster today, I truly feel Whitewater would've made for a tougher road to a Regional Championship had they been awarded a Pool C bid over either of those schools.

If La Crosse can win one out of two games against Bethel and Stevens Point can defeat Webster once in two tries tomorrow, it will be an all WIAC Super Regional again (just like last year) for a trip to the D3 College World Series next weekend!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 22, 2023, 02:55:57 PM
Point at La Crosse best of 3 I'd have to say La Crosse would be the heavy favorite with their top 2 starters although Points staff is really doing well also. It actually may benefit Point playing away from home also as La Crosse can surely hit home runs and I think Points staff has better chance of keeping ball in the park away from home. Both teams are probably top 10 in the nation more so La Crosse and Points probably 9th or 10th which is still great. I'll never bet against Pointers especially with the way Comer is hitting and they can match up with the best hitting wise I'm just concerned about the errors lately and that comes with trying to have 9 great hitters in lineup.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 26, 2023, 09:51:54 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 22, 2023, 02:55:57 PM
Point at La Crosse best of 3 I'd have to say La Crosse would be the heavy favorite with their top 2 starters although Points staff is really doing well also. It actually may benefit Point playing away from home also as La Crosse can surely hit home runs and I think Points staff has better chance of keeping ball in the park away from home. Both teams are probably top 10 in the nation more so La Crosse and Points probably 9th or 10th which is still great. I'll never bet against Pointers especially with the way Comer is hitting and they can match up with the best hitting wise I'm just concerned about the errors lately and that comes with trying to have 9 great hitters in lineup.
So which is it? 

Weren't you just lamenting the fact after the WIAC Tournament that "playing SS was affecting Comer's bat" despite the fact that the numbers didn't support your claim?  Talk about being "wishy-washy" when it comes his play as of late....  ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 26, 2023, 09:58:35 AM
Day #1 of Super Regionals kicks off in La Crosse today...

Would expect we'll see Katz vs Pickering in a rematch from their match-up back at the beginning of April, when Pickering left with a 5-4 lead only to see the bullpen squander the lead in a 6-5 win for the Eagles...

I'll be curious to see how Weckler is used this weekend...  Does Richter go to him out of the bullpen, or line him up to start Game #3 should the series go the full length?  La Crosse beat up on Schultz during the regular season, so that might have an impact on the decision as well?

Excited to tune in today for a battle between WIAC powers for a berth in the College World Series!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 26, 2023, 01:07:42 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 15, 2023, 04:42:10 PM
from what I was told by an ex player for Point, Logan Mattsons baseball career is most likely over and that's a huge loss.
Better find a new source.... Mattson is in the starting lineup and playing SS for the Pointers in Game #1 of the Super Regional...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on May 26, 2023, 01:32:43 PM
Pickering doesn't have it today, down 3-0 in the 2nd already.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on May 26, 2023, 01:36:01 PM
Make it 5-0.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 26, 2023, 01:42:08 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 11, 2023, 01:24:21 PM
Now that the WIAC Tournament has started and the lineup is out, I'll share that Mattson was hit by a pitch in the face against Eau Claire....  There was a concern that there might be some facial fractures, so he went and visited a specialist last weekend.  His availability moving forward is literally a week-to-week thing.  Obviously the longer the Pointers season goes, the odds of him returning increase, however I wouldn't get my hopes up....
Can't say the information wasn't out there about Mattson possibly returning yet this season...

Pointers are going to need him and others to get the bats going or Game #1 could be a "laugher" in a hurry...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 26, 2023, 01:57:05 PM
Not so fast as Point puts up a 4 spot to get back in it. Can any of you please explain to me why Pickering gets left out there when he clearly doesn't have it? To me it's very obvious when he's on or off why leave him in to get rocked?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on May 26, 2023, 01:59:46 PM
Pickering gets pulled after giving up a leadoff bomb and single in the 3rd, not going to get the job done and puts the pitching staff in a terrible spot for a best of 3 series.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 26, 2023, 02:39:22 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 26, 2023, 01:57:05 PM
Can any of you please explain to me why Pickering gets left out there when he clearly doesn't have it? To me it's very obvious when he's on or off why leave him in to get rocked?
They're potentially playing three games in a 27-28 hour period....  Not that uncommon to have a little longer leash in Game #1 knowing that there are still more game(s) to be played...  Had the same thing happened in Game #2 with the Pointers trailing 1-0 in the series, I doubt Pickering is even given the chance to get through the first inning?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 26, 2023, 02:47:39 PM
Nelson continues to "rake" during the postseason and his 3-run HR gives the Pointers a 7-6 lead....  WIAC Pitcher of the Year Isaiah Katz was staked to an early 5-0 lead, however the Pointers have roughed him up for 7 earned runs in just five innings of work thus far...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 26, 2023, 02:54:33 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 26, 2023, 09:58:35 AM
I'll be curious to see how Weckler is used this weekend...  Does Richter go to him out of the bullpen, or line him up to start Game #3 should the series go the full length? 
Weckler comes on in relief in the fifth inning and strands a pair of runners and then he turns around and strikes out the side (all swinging) in the sixth inning facing La Crosse's #2/3/4 hitters....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 26, 2023, 02:58:30 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 26, 2023, 02:47:39 PM
Nelson continues to "rake" during the postseason and his 3-run HR gives the Pointers a 7-6 lead....  WIAC Pitcher of the Year Isaiah Katz was staked to an early 5-0 lead, however the Pointers have roughed him up for 7 earned runs in just five innings of work thus far...
Nelson doesn't get a chance to face Katz a fourth time and improve on his 3x3 day as Coach Schwarz goes to Bouche with 1st & 2nd and two outs in the 6th inning...  Bouche strikes out Nelson swinging to end the threat.  Stevens Point still leads 7-6 heading to the 7th inning...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 26, 2023, 03:03:19 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 26, 2023, 02:54:33 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 26, 2023, 09:58:35 AM
I'll be curious to see how Weckler is used this weekend...  Does Richter go to him out of the bullpen, or line him up to start Game #3 should the series go the full length? 
Weckler comes on in relief in the fifth inning and strands a pair of runners and then he turns around and strikes out the side (all swinging) in the sixth inning facing La Crosse's #2/3/4 hitters....
8 up, 8 down for Weckler thanks to a 4-6-3 double play after a one out walk to end the 7th inning...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 26, 2023, 03:21:22 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 26, 2023, 03:03:19 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 26, 2023, 02:54:33 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 26, 2023, 09:58:35 AM
I'll be curious to see how Weckler is used this weekend...  Does Richter go to him out of the bullpen, or line him up to start Game #3 should the series go the full length? 
Weckler comes on in relief in the fifth inning and strands a pair of runners and then he turns around and strikes out the side (all swinging) in the sixth inning facing La Crosse's #2/3/4 hitters....
8 up, 8 down for Weckler thanks to a 4-6-3 double play after a one out walk to end the 7th inning...
Weckler tries working around a leadoff throwing error getting a strikeout (foul bunt with two strikes,) and a foul-out to the first baseman, however Coach Schwarz pushes the right button and pinch hits for his #2 hitter with Mac Born.  Born responds with a 2-run HR to RCF on the second pitch he sees to give the Eagles an 8-7 lead.

Richter goes to his bullpen again bringing in Syvertson to try and keep it an 8-7 game...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on May 26, 2023, 03:23:28 PM
About as routine of a ground ball as possible might be Point's undoing today.  That play can't happen in tight games.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 26, 2023, 03:33:33 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on May 26, 2023, 03:23:28 PM
About as routine of a ground ball as possible might be Point's undoing today.  That play can't happen in tight games.
I would've sent Homolka with two outs on Boos double despite the fact that Nelson was due up...  You gotta assume that they might walk Nelson with first base open anyway?

Of course the second baseman bobbles the ensuing relay throw after Homolka is held up so it doesn't hurt the Eagles...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 26, 2023, 03:34:45 PM
Ferry just hasn't been the dominant pitcher in 2023 that he was in 2022 in my opinion....

A leadoff double and another throwing error gives the Eagles runners on the corners with nobody out...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on May 26, 2023, 03:36:32 PM
Point deserves to lose today, and they aren't set up at all to win the next 2.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 26, 2023, 03:39:48 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 26, 2023, 03:34:45 PM
Ferry just hasn't been the dominant pitcher in 2023 that he was in 2022 in my opinion....

A leadoff double and another throwing error gives the Eagles runners on the corners with nobody out...
Ferry comes within a strike of stranding both runners however a ground ball in the hole scores a run and a single to CF scores another to give La Crosse a 10-7 lead heading to the bottom of the 9th inning...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 26, 2023, 03:45:07 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on May 26, 2023, 03:36:32 PM
Point deserves to lose today, and they aren't set up at all to win the next 2.
Had they held on and won 7-6 today, I'm not sure they're even set up to split the next two games?

La Crosse roughed up Schultz earlier this season and Paulsen struggled his last start after a short outing in the WIAC Tournament....  That said, Paulsen did throw five scoreless innings in relief against La Crosse earlier this season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 26, 2023, 04:01:14 PM
I said before they played Points defense concerns me and it cost them today and Comer didn't show up to play. There's no way in hell Pickering should've stayed in the game like he did everyone knows quickly whether he's on or off. They could've scored 100 in 5 off of him today
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 26, 2023, 04:05:31 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 26, 2023, 04:01:14 PM
I said before they played Points defense concerns me and it cost them today and Comer didn't show up to play. There's no way in hell Pickering should've stayed in the game like he did everyone knows quickly whether he's on or off. They could've scored 100 in 5 off of him today
You also said Mattson was out for the season, Comer's offense is being affected by playing shortstop, and you won't bet against the pointers with the way Comer is hitting....

I guess if you throw enough stuff at the wall, eventually something will stick? Congrats I guess!  ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 26, 2023, 05:51:29 PM
Point has about as good of chance to win next two as Miami Heat does of beating the Celtics!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 26, 2023, 09:48:20 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 26, 2023, 05:51:29 PM
Point has about as good of chance to win next two as Miami Heat does of beating the Celtics!


As a diehard CELTICS guy I wish you hadn't just said that.  :(
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 27, 2023, 11:42:55 AM
Quote from: cubs on May 26, 2023, 03:45:07 PM
That said, Paulsen did throw five scoreless innings in relief against La Crosse earlier this season.
Paulsen does indeed get the start for the Pointers with their season on the line...

La Crosse will counter with Schmitt...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 27, 2023, 12:16:55 PM
Schmitt walks FIVE batters in the Top of the 1st inning, including the first three batters of the game, and Van Ess clutches up with a two out 3-run double to give the Pointers an early 5-0 lead. 

Schwarz goes to the bullpen after the double so it will be a bullpen game for the Eagles on a day where they need to win one out of two games to advance to the College World Series.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 27, 2023, 12:39:54 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 27, 2023, 12:16:55 PM
Schmitt walks FIVE batters in the Top of the 1st inning, including the first three batters of the game, and Van Ess clutches up with a two out 3-run double to give the Pointers an early 5-0 lead. 

Schwarz goes to the bullpen after the double so it will be a bullpen game for the Eagles on a day where they need to win one out of two games to advance to the College World Series.
UWL's second pitcher Deprez doesn't fair much better... After getting the last out in the 1st inning, he walks Boos and Nelson and Comer go back-to-back to make it an 8-0 game. After another walk, Schwarz goes to the bullpen again, this time to Fassbender.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 27, 2023, 01:42:49 PM
Pointers put up 10 runs in 4th Inning to take an 18-2 lead and turn Game #2 of series into a laugher... With game not being close, Richter can let Paulsen "wear one" for an inning if need be and have all his bullpen arms available for the third and deciding game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 27, 2023, 02:45:54 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 27, 2023, 01:42:49 PM
Pointers put up 10 runs in 4th Inning to take an 18-2 lead and turn Game #2 of series into a laugher... With game not being close, Richter can let Paulsen "wear one" for an inning if need be and have all his bullpen arms available for the third and deciding game.
Instead of letting Paulsen "wear one," Richter goes to the bullpen after a leadoff walk in the sixth inning...

Two relief pitchers later, an La Crosse puts up an 8-spot to make it a 19-13 game...

It's not over yet!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 27, 2023, 02:58:04 PM
More of the same in the 7th inning, which forces Richter to go to one of his main relievers... La Crosse bats around for the second straight inning and three HR's later makes it a 19-18 game with two innings left to play!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 27, 2023, 03:01:42 PM
Good Luck in World Series Eagles you kept fighting and played til the game was over and quite honestly showed far more heart and deserve to be there and Pointers were definitely out coached. This series is going to sting for a very long time one I'll never forget in my lifetime but La Crosse is undoubtedly the better team this year and showed it!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 27, 2023, 03:12:07 PM
A 2-run HR by Seaman gives La Crosse an unpredictable 20-19 lead... They ate three outs from a berth in the D3 College World Series.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 27, 2023, 03:28:49 PM
Not so fast... Comer clutches up with an RBI single to tie it and an error gives the Pointers a 21-20 lead. Oliver and Canterbury follow with back-to-back HR's and Stevens Point takes a 24-20 lead.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 27, 2023, 03:43:23 PM
Stevens Point blows a 19-2 lead only to score five in the 9th inning and then Ferry closes the door for a 24-20 victory....

Game #3 in 45 minutes for a berth in the College World Series...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 27, 2023, 03:47:29 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 27, 2023, 03:01:42 PM
Good Luck in World Series Eagles you kept fighting and played til the game was over and quite honestly showed far more heart and deserve to be there and Pointers were definitely out coached. This series is going to sting for a very long time one I'll never forget in my lifetime but La Crosse is undoubtedly the better team this year and showed it!
So you going to bother tuning in for Game #3?

The Pointers hitters decided to "keep fighting" despite their biggest fan quitting on them...  :D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 27, 2023, 03:52:02 PM
What's Points path to victory in game 3? JD seems to be dynamite for 5 innings from what I've seen and then is left out a little too long. Have him to 5 and then I'd personally go Weckler 2 for sure and then put ball in hands of Ferry. You just never know what Pickering is going to look like if he's on I trust him against pretty much anyone for 5-6 but he generally starts off bad when then settles they can't take that chance. Either way they at least gave themselves a chance and I thought it was 100 percent game set match once they got it to 19-18!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 27, 2023, 03:53:49 PM
Yeah I'm going to tune in and it appeared to me they had quit playing so yeah I assumed the game was over and something they weren't going to be able to overcome.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 27, 2023, 03:55:03 PM
Before game begins who wins and why?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 27, 2023, 04:21:52 PM
I'll say Stevens Point... 

Schultz bounces back from his worst start of the season against La Crosse back in April and give the Pointers six innings of four run ball....  Weckler and Ferry get the last nine outs and Stevens Point wins 9-6.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 27, 2023, 04:42:17 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 27, 2023, 04:21:52 PM
I'll say Stevens Point... 

Schultz bounces back from his worst start of the season against La Crosse back in April and give the Pointers six innings of four run ball....  Weckler and Ferry get the last nine outs and Stevens Point wins 9-6.
Then again, maybe not? 

Schultz has faced five batters so far...  Walk, single, walk, single and HR to give La Crosse a 5-0 lead.

Better have a quick hook today compared to yesterday if you're Richter....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 27, 2023, 04:55:51 PM
Schultz fails to get out of the first inning as Richter goes to Crawley with the bases loaded and two outs to try and keep it a 6-0 game....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 27, 2023, 04:59:52 PM
Crawley walks the first batter he faces but then gets a ground ball to get out of the inning as La Crosse bats around for the third time in four innings going back to Game #1 to take a 7-0 lead...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 27, 2023, 05:02:50 PM
I would've guessed same thing with JD pitching but also am not shocked he made it the **** show it is. I'll give La Crosse a ton of credit their offense is without question one of more explosive I've seen in the WIAC as is Points and they just put so much pressure on a team immediately! With that being said Whitewater is fixin to have the best offense of all time in the WIAC
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 27, 2023, 05:09:46 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 27, 2023, 05:02:50 PM
With that being said Whitewater is fixin to have the best offense of all time in the WIAC
The mid-1990's UWO offense led by Jorgensen, Lieder, Richartz, and Zappa might beg to differ...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 27, 2023, 07:18:43 PM
Quote from: ShineTime on May 27, 2023, 05:02:50 PM
I would've guessed same thing with JD pitching but also am not shocked he made it the **** show it is. I'll give La Crosse a ton of credit their offense is without question one of more explosive I've seen in the WIAC as is Points and they just put so much pressure on a team immediately! With that being said Whitewater is fixin to have the best offense of all time in the WIAC


Of course I hope you're right for once but I can't help but wonder "where the hell did he get that from?"  I suspect the LaCrosse starters next year may also have a comment or two regarding your prediction.  They return nearly everyone and hit 70+ home runs this year. 

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 27, 2023, 07:30:48 PM
La Crosse uses the big first inning and never looks back as they "coast" to a 16-10 victory in the deciding game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 29, 2023, 01:03:47 AM
Well to begin I feel Whitewater arguably would've given La Crosse or Point a much more difficult time in regionals and possibly would've even beaten the Pointers. Next year they'll return the best player the WIAC has seen in quite some time in Adam Cootway he hit 15 or 16 HRs this year with 65-70 rbis. Jacob Demeyer also returns and is a stud so right there you have a tremendous middle of lineup. Then add Sam Paden, Matt Scolan, and Donovan Brandl and the core is there to score 5 or more against anyone. The staff will return Max Huseboe and Cade Berendt and this is without question a top 20 team in the nation.

La Crosse is going to be damn good also but will also have all the pressure on them to be good. They'll return Mac Born, Anthony Vivian, Jack Olver, Logan Pye, and possibly Ty Hamilton. Pitching should be really good with the following kids returning: Katz, Schmitt, Deprez, and Matl. After seeing what Point and La Crosse did to one another over the weekend I don't know what to think because I sure as hell didn't envision Pickering, Paulson, and Schultz to look as awful as what they did after having tremendous seasons. Who knows maybe everyone got to see 2 of the best d3 teams go head to head this weekend and the better team won! I know every team will have their hands full with Salisbury this year but I for one will be rooting for the Eagles as hard as it is to do!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 31, 2023, 09:51:41 AM
Congratulations to Adam Cootway, Matt Scherrman and Bradley Comer on being named to the d3baseball.com All American squads this week.

Cootway, the WIAC AND Region #9 Position Player of the Year, was selected as the 1st Team second baseman, while Scherrman was selected as the 3rd Team shortstop and Comer the 5th Team third baseman.

Ironically, the last WIAC team standing, La Crosse, didn't have anyone selected to any of the five All American teams.  I thought Katz, the WIAC AND Region #9 Pitcher of the Year, might be able to sneak on with his 7-0 record, but with his ERA being in the mid-3.00 range and low strikeout numbers probably hurt when compared to the other 20 pitchers that were chosen. 

When you look at the numbers though, his teammate Anthony Vivian probably has a better argument, although seeing his batting average be under .400 might have been the deciding factor when you see 13/15 outfielders selected hit over .400 for the season.  That said, his 19 HR's were only eclipsed by two outfielders, both of which were 1st Team All American selections.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 31, 2023, 07:16:01 PM
The WIAC this year had arguably 4 top 25 teams in the nation and Stout, Platteville, and Eau Claire aren't automatic wins any longer. A kid hitting 400 in the WIAC would most likely hit over 500 in any other conference. So many of the guys selected to top 4 teams don't play in conference as good as the WIAC although they're still fantastic players. Just pointing out guys playing in the WIAC especially pitchers, get robbed because their ERA is a tad over 3 but that's unreal in a tough conference
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on June 01, 2023, 11:14:26 AM
UWRF is bringing back baseball for the spring of 2025.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 03, 2023, 09:01:55 AM
La Crosse drops their opening game at the World Series 8-6 to Lynchburg. The Eagles trailed 2-0 in the 6th inning but plated a run to cut it to 2-1 and still had the bases loaded with nobody out. Unfortunately a groundball double play killed the opportunity for a big inning despite tying the game up 2-2.

They'll look to stay alive against defending champion Salisbury later today.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 07, 2023, 01:49:31 PM
Does anyone know if Canterbury and Comer are eligible to return next season and if so do they plan on returning? I have my fingers crossed that they both can and are because losing Nelson in CF and his lethal bat in the 2 spot won't be easy to replace. If they return everyone but Nelson I think they'll still have a very difficult time winning the WIAC again unless they get a proven player who can step in and pick up Nelson's production. Tommy Drohner I'm assuming could play outfield and is a legit hitter and I know they have some really good options and potential depth still. Tyler Soule needs to somehow be on the field more but when you have Boos and Mattson it's tough plus you'll have either Homolka or the viroqua stud forgot his name already somehow at first and the other DH. I really like Pickering just not at the top of the staff and that's not a knock on him it's just the Pointers have had a top 15-25 team in the nation and if they could land a true #1 like La Crosse has they'd be better suited to make the World Series and then compete once they got there. It's extremely difficult from what I've seen the past couple of seasons to win games in World Series without an elite pitcher and a damn good #2. I still believe in the Pointers top 4 along with the relief pitchers but they definitely could've used another stud arm or two.

Early predictions for 2024:

1. Whitewater
2. La Crosse
3. Point
4. Oshkosh
5. Stout
6. Platteville
7. Eau Claire
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on June 08, 2023, 10:30:43 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on June 07, 2023, 01:49:31 PM
Does anyone know if Canterbury and Comer are eligible to return next season and if so do they plan on returning? I have my fingers crossed that they both can and are because losing Nelson in CF and his lethal bat in the 2 spot won't be easy to replace. If they return everyone but Nelson I think they'll still have a very difficult time winning the WIAC again unless they get a proven player who can step in and pick up Nelson's production. Tommy Drohner I'm assuming could play outfield and is a legit hitter and I know they have some really good options and potential depth still. Tyler Soule needs to somehow be on the field more but when you have Boos and Mattson it's tough plus you'll have either Homolka or the viroqua stud forgot his name already somehow at first and the other DH. I really like Pickering just not at the top of the staff and that's not a knock on him it's just the Pointers have had a top 15-25 team in the nation and if they could land a true #1 like La Crosse has they'd be better suited to make the World Series and then compete once they got there. It's extremely difficult from what I've seen the past couple of seasons to win games in World Series without an elite pitcher and a damn good #2. I still believe in the Pointers top 4 along with the relief pitchers but they definitely could've used another stud arm or two.

Early predictions for 2024:

1. Whitewater
2. La Crosse
3. Point
4. Oshkosh
5. Stout
6. Platteville
7. Eau Claire

Comer and Canterbury do have an extra covid year available to them, as if they will take it, I don't know the answer at this time. 

Losing Nelson is a huge loss but I am extremely intrigued the way Point has been recruiting the last couple years.  They are building a lot of depth.  As far as the pitching staff goes, I have to finally agree with something Shinetime says.  Point has been missing a legit ace for awhile, they have lot of depth but don't have the legit #1 that you know is getting the ball first game of the series.  Mason Weckler was throwing 89 in a recent Dairyland league start, Troy Knutson was a very highly sought after recruit last season and incoming Freshman Elijah Niemiec might be the most promising incoming Freshman to the WIAC this upcoming season.  Hopefully these guys make some strides and can help the staff next season in Niemiec and Knutson's case, or in Weckler's case can take a couple steps forward.  I've been thinking and hoping for the past couple seasons that UWSP would bring in a transfer pitcher that could take the ace spot and move everyone down a spot in the rotation, I'm still hoping that for this season.

With the position players, you mentioned a couple of the top guys from last year's incoming freshman.  Soule is comfortable with the bat and I would like to see him in the lineup more often.  Drohner was highly regarded and there is atleast one outfield spot open.

I think this year's incoming freshman position player group include a few with a good chance to be special.  Isaac Beeler is the starting CF for one of the best teams in Texas.  Brennan Huber was a 2nd Team All State Outfielder for Wisconsin Rapids as a junior, not many kids that are multi-time all state in baseball end up in the D3 ranks.  Connor Olson is an IF from a power program in Arrowhead who is the highest ranked kid on PBR that is an incoming freshman to the WIAC, not just UWSP.

Last thing I am going to note, is the roster size for UWSP.  I'm not going to go back and count how many players are eligible to return, but it's a lot.  They only have 5-6 Seniors with a roster size of about 50.  I'm sure I don't know of a few commits, but of the ones I know about, UWSP has 20 baseball commits.  That is a huge roster without some attrition happening, so that will be worth watching in the offseason.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 10, 2023, 12:48:41 AM
Thanks for sharing the information I'm extremely excited for what could be an outstanding season next year especially if Comer and Canterbury both return and kids can handle competition and accept the fact they may fall down in the rotation or a kid who played every game this past season is splitting time. There's definitely potential for a lot of power even losing Nelson and potentially Comer and Canterbury although I don't feel the Pointers can be top 15 team in country without those 2. Still can't get over fact Whitewater didn't make regionals and still feel the top 4 teams in the WIAC this year were better than any other conferences top 4 teams and it's not even close
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 12, 2023, 01:18:56 PM
I can fill in half  of the equation for you guys, and that is that Canterbury is not returning for another year at Stevens Point...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on June 12, 2023, 03:00:57 PM
Quote from: cubs on June 12, 2023, 01:18:56 PM
I can fill in half  of the equation for you guys, and that is that Canterbury is not returning for another year at Stevens Point...

Thanks for the info, that will leave 2 open spots to the Outfield for the Pointers.  Returners Matt Baumann, Colton Martell, Tommy Drohner, Connor Flanagan and incoming freshman Isaac Beeler, Lane Boucher, Jackson Adams, Nick Argersinger and Brennan Huber will fight it out for those spots.  Unless of course, there is a transfer or two brought who can also take those spots.

You would have to think Baumann would have a leg up at the start being that he was a full time starter 2 season ago. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: PauldingLightUP on June 12, 2023, 11:56:10 PM
Bolden resigns after just three years. https://blugolds.com/sports/bsb/2022-23/releases/20230612qm08z3
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on June 26, 2023, 12:35:50 AM
Former Amherst All State Pitcher Ben Lee has left UW Milwaukee and plans on playing at Whitewater as his girlfriend attends school there. Huge get for Whitewater IMO as they return their entire offense and I believe their top 2 starters. I'm not sure what's going on with Connor Kurki but I know he's not at Coastal Carolina any longer wouldn't it be a blessing if he went to Point next year?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on July 01, 2023, 11:48:01 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on June 26, 2023, 12:35:50 AM
Former Amherst All State Pitcher Ben Lee has left UW Milwaukee and plans on playing at Whitewater as his girlfriend attends school there. Huge get for Whitewater IMO as they return their entire offense and I believe their top 2 starters. I'm not sure what's going on with Connor Kurki but I know he's not at Coastal Carolina any longer wouldn't it be a blessing if he went to Point next year?

Excellent, we needed to add starting pitching.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on July 03, 2023, 11:35:31 PM
Ben Lee pitched complete game 2 hit shutout Friday night in Scandinavia's 1-0 win over New London. He effortlessly was throwing high 80s and has really good movement on his pitches. Only knock I've heard on him is he can have control issues but I'm sure that's something a good college pitching coach can work on with him.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on July 10, 2023, 01:15:29 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on June 12, 2023, 03:00:57 PM
You would have to think Baumann would have a leg up at the start being that he was a full time starter 2 season ago.
Seeing how Canterbury performed in his one year as a full time starter this year, one can't help but wonder if maybe he should've received more playing time in 2022 as well?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on July 12, 2023, 11:35:23 AM
Quote from: tomt4525 on June 01, 2023, 11:14:26 AM
UWRF is bringing back baseball for the spring of 2025.

Their proximity to the Twin Cities should provide a solid base for recruiting as they re-enter the world of college baseball. I am sure it will take a few seasons to get going, but the right coach/recruiter can make an impact pretty quickly... maybe not in the WIAC right away, but surely in the Twin Cities area with the vast amount of D3 schools in the area.

You would assume they'd hire a coach this fall to get a jump on recruiting for the following year as they'll "go live" in spring of 2025. They have a fantastic turfed stadium in town that seems like a natural fit for their team.

Any thoughts on a potential candidate for the position?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on July 15, 2023, 09:44:42 AM
WARHAWKS lose a pair of starters. Sam Vomhof and Cade Berendt entered the portal and both signed with D1 programs.  Vomhof got a full ride and a small amount of cash to play his covid season at Northern Illinois and Berendt got a full ride to pitch for University of Illinois- Chicago. 

F' the transfer portal.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on July 16, 2023, 01:11:55 AM
Oh man that sucks for whitewater and I honestly had them along with La Crosse as 2 of the top 5 teams next year. Hopefully Ben Lee slides into Berendts spot but I know I was not looking forward to the Pointers facing Ben Lee as your number 3 man in rotation. Pointers won't be getting Canterbury back which Hurts them also and if Comers not back they have no chance.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on July 19, 2023, 12:13:52 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on July 15, 2023, 09:44:42 AM
WARHAWKS lose a pair of starters. Sam Vomhof and Cade Berendt entered the portal and both signed with D1 programs.  Vomhof got a full ride and a small amount of cash to play his covid season at Northern Illinois and Berendt got a full ride to pitch for University of Illinois- Chicago. 

F' the transfer portal.
The transfer portal giveth, and the transfer portal taketh....  Unfortunately, that's the era we are in now and I don't see things changing anytime soon.

Anyway, I have to admit, I'm a bit surprised to hear not one, but two guys get FULL RIDES for baseball.  There was a time that if a guy received even a 50% scholarship, it was considered a great deal!  Good for both Sam and Cade though!  I'll be curious to see how they do at the D1 level next Spring.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on July 19, 2023, 12:46:22 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on June 26, 2023, 12:35:50 AM
I'm not sure what's going on with Connor Kurki but I know he's not at Coastal Carolina any longer wouldn't it be a blessing if he went to Point next year?
I'm going to guess it's a longshot that Kurki will be pitching anywhere next season, muchless Stevens Point....  Apparently he entered the transfer portal and was planning on playing with the Rafters again this summer, however an injury put a halt to some of those plans.  There was some speculation that Tommy John Surgery might be required, but I haven't gotten any confirmation as far as whether he went the surgery or rehab route.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on August 01, 2023, 02:32:47 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on July 12, 2023, 11:35:23 AM
Any thoughts on a potential candidate for the position?
Former Whitewater player and assistant coach Steve Bartlein named Falcons Head Coach.

https://bit.ly/3Klm5WR
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on August 01, 2023, 09:22:13 PM
This seems like a GREAT hire for River Falls.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on August 02, 2023, 09:01:20 AM
Quote from: cubs on August 01, 2023, 02:32:47 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on July 12, 2023, 11:35:23 AM
Any thoughts on a potential candidate for the position?
Former Whitewater player and assistant coach Steve Bartlein named Falcons Head Coach.

https://bit.ly/3Klm5WR

Just a really good person and baseball coach.  I hate to see him leave but wish him nothing but success. Except those four games a year
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on August 04, 2023, 11:10:28 AM
Quote from: PauldingLightUP on June 12, 2023, 11:56:10 PM
Bolden resigns after just three years. https://blugolds.com/sports/bsb/2022-23/releases/20230612qm08z3
Eau Claire goes into Minnesota to find their next Head Coach...

http://blugolds.com/x/nv5yo
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on August 07, 2023, 10:47:33 AM
Two-time First Team ALL WIAC selection and 3rd Team All American Matt Scherrman hit the transfer portal earlier this summer and will be finishing his baseball career at Creighton. His departure will leave an unexpected hole in the #3 spot of the UWO order.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on August 20, 2023, 12:54:15 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on July 15, 2023, 09:44:42 AM
WARHAWKS lose a pair of starters. Sam Vomhof and Cade Berendt entered the portal and both signed with D1 programs.  Vomhof got a full ride and a small amount of cash to play his covid season at Northern Illinois and Berendt got a full ride to pitch for University of Illinois- Chicago. 

F' the transfer portal.
Looks like there may have been a late switch, as Vomhof will be joining UWO transfer Matt Scherrman and heading to Creighton.

Will be a little more interesting to follow Creighton now next season with a pair of former WIAC standouts on their roster...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on August 22, 2023, 12:01:44 AM
Quote from: cubs on July 19, 2023, 12:46:22 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on June 26, 2023, 12:35:50 AM
I'm not sure what's going on with Connor Kurki but I know he's not at Coastal Carolina any longer wouldn't it be a blessing if he went to Point next year?
I'm going to guess it's a longshot that Kurki will be pitching anywhere next season, muchless Stevens Point....  Apparently he entered the transfer portal and was planning on playing with the Rafters again this summer, however an injury put a halt to some of those plans.  There was some speculation that Tommy John Surgery might be required, but I haven't gotten any confirmation as far as whether he went the surgery or rehab route.
Well, good news!  Kurki was able to go the rehab route and avoid Tommy John surgery.

With that said, Kurki will look to continue his career at the D1 level and is heading to Northern Kentucky next season.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: PauldingLightUP on September 11, 2023, 03:17:33 PM
UW-Stout 2024 schedule. Devils have filled their bye week with Northland and Bethel.

https://stoutbluedevils.com/sports/baseball/schedule/2024
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: PauldingLightUP on September 22, 2023, 02:07:34 PM
UW-La Crosse 2024 schedule.

https://uwlathletics.com/sports/baseball/schedule/2024
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on October 24, 2023, 09:31:46 PM
Former Pointer Shortstop, Logan Matson, has been named an assistant coach for UW-Eau Claire.  Matson also played a year at UWEC before transferring to UWSP.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: PauldingLightUP on December 11, 2023, 02:44:13 PM
Oshkosh returns to Florida for the first time in a while for a weekend.  https://www.uwoshkoshtitans.com/sports/bsb/2023-24/schedule
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on December 12, 2023, 11:25:40 AM
Quote from: PauldingLightUP on December 11, 2023, 02:44:13 PM
Oshkosh returns to Florida for the first time in a while for a weekend.  https://www.uwoshkoshtitans.com/sports/bsb/2023-24/schedule
Last time UWO went to Florida, they qualified for Regionals....  If I'm not mistaken, that was the same year Concordia-Chicago "double-dipped" them at Regionals to advance to the College World Series.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: PauldingLightUP on December 12, 2023, 11:39:29 AM
Quote from: cubs on December 12, 2023, 11:25:40 AM
Quote from: PauldingLightUP on December 11, 2023, 02:44:13 PM
Oshkosh returns to Florida for the first time in a while for a weekend.  https://www.uwoshkoshtitans.com/sports/bsb/2023-24/schedule
Last time UWO went to Florida, they qualified for Regionals....  If I'm not mistaken, that was the same year Concordia-Chicago "double-dipped" them at Regionals to advance to the College World Series.
Yep. That one will sting for a long time, if not forever. One win away from the final World Series in Appleton and couldn't win one.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on December 12, 2023, 04:23:14 PM
Quote from: PauldingLightUP on December 12, 2023, 11:39:29 AM
Quote from: cubs on December 12, 2023, 11:25:40 AM
Quote from: PauldingLightUP on December 11, 2023, 02:44:13 PM
Oshkosh returns to Florida for the first time in a while for a weekend.  https://www.uwoshkoshtitans.com/sports/bsb/2023-24/schedule
Last time UWO went to Florida, they qualified for Regionals....  If I'm not mistaken, that was the same year Concordia-Chicago "double-dipped" them at Regionals to advance to the College World Series.
Yep. That one will sting for a long time, if not forever. One win away from the final World Series in Appleton and couldn't win one.
Well considering that season is the only year Tomasiewicz and UWO have made Regionals in his now ten-season tenure, it shouldn't be too surprising I guess....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: PauldingLightUP on February 22, 2024, 07:55:35 PM
Oshkosh wins opener over MSOE 11-9. Second game in the series on Saturday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 23, 2024, 08:44:36 AM
Quote from: PauldingLightUP on February 22, 2024, 07:55:35 PMOshkosh wins opener over MSOE 11-9. Second game in the series on Saturday.
Brinkman gets his doors blown off giving up 9 in just four innings of work as MSOE scored in three out of four innings against him...  UWO bullpen shut them down after that however with five scoreless innings of work allowing the bats to fight back against MSOE's All Region P Tyler Gronert.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 01, 2024, 11:22:53 AM
https://athletics.uwsp.edu/sports/baseball/roster (https://athletics.uwsp.edu/sports/baseball/roster)

Point's roster if finally up.

I would love to know what happened to a few incoming freshman...maybe injured?

Isaac Beeler OF Westlake(TX)
Eli Niemiec RHP St Thomas More
Asher Nicholson IF Denver(CO)
Calvin Hancock C Waterford
Hunter Loser C/3B Kewaskum

Also, I had really high hopes for Brennan Huber...multi time All State...I thought there was a chance he would take over in the OF for Payton Nelson.  He's listed on the roster but doesn't have a number, which is weird.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 01, 2024, 12:05:23 PM
With Point's roster up, I'm also intrigued to see what a couple LHP transfer's can give UWSP this year.  Could make a deep staff without a true ace, even deeper.

Kaden Krueger Appleton West, transfer from D1 Bradley
Kenny Schultz Stevens Point, transfer from D2 St Cloud St
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 01, 2024, 02:06:49 PM
The Warhawks opened the 2024 season with a convincing win over 19th ranked Trinity 14-3. Sam Paden had a pair of solo home runs and Andy Theis hit a two run homer. Paden finished 3x5 with 2 RBI and 3 RS.  Matt Scolon also finished with 3 hits and 4 RBI. Theis added a double and had 2 RBI. Cade Berendt apparently decided to return and was the starter. Berendt went 4 IP allowing 3 ER on 4 hits. Jack Hagen pitched the next four and got the win. Hagen allowed one hit and struck out 8. Danny Hooper pitched an inning and recorded a strikeout.

The two teams meet again today for games two and three of the four game series in San Antonio.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 02, 2024, 12:06:52 PM
Pickering gets the start in Game 1 for the Pointers this morning.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 02, 2024, 12:23:50 PM
Warhawks split a twin bill with Trinity (Tx) yesterday romping 21-2 in the first game before dropping game two 8-7. Eli Frank led the 21 hits offense going 4x5,2 DBL with 4 RBI. Also recording a multiple hit game were Matt Scolon (3H, 3B, 1RBI), Daryl Jackson (3H, 1RBI), Alex Najera (2H, 2RBI), Dominik McVay (2H, HR, 1RBI) and Andy Theis (2H, 4RBI). Aaron Holland added a grand slam home run and finished with 5RBI. Ethan Wickman got the win in two innings of scoreless relief (1H, 1BB, 1K). Michael Hilker started allowing a pair of earned runs. Also pitching were Cade Hansen and Logan Kottmeyer. The staff allowed 7 hits.

The second game was close throughout.  The [bb][color]Warhawks[/b] scored a run in their first at bat on McVay's RBI single but Trinity plated one in their at bat. Two more Warhawks runs came in the third but again Trinity matched them in the bottom of the inning. The Warhawks took their only lead of the game 4-3, when Daryl Jackson scored on a wild pitch.  The lead increased to 6-3 when Matt Scolon hit a two run home run in the seventh.  Trinity took the lead for good in the bottom of the inning. A single sandwiched between a pair of HBP was followed by a grand slam putting Trinity up and they scored an insurance run later in the inning on a RBI single to increase their lead to 8-6. Frank's RBI single gave the Warhawks a run in the ninth but that's as far as it got. Frank finished with 3H, 2RBI and McVay also had 3H 1RBI. Najera and Scolon each had an RBI. Logan Eisenbarth took the loss (1IP, 2H, 4ER, 1K).  Max Huseboe started (5IP, 7H, 3ER, 4K), Burk Jackson (1H, 1ER, 1BB, 1K) and Jackson Koenig (1H) each pitched an inning.

The series concludes with a single game today.


Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 02, 2024, 02:48:18 PM
Point opens the season losing 4-3 to North Central.  People on base basically every inning and couldn't come up with a big hit.  Pitching wasn't spectacular but was good enough, this one is on the lineup.  Way too many strikeouts and just flat out terrible at bats.  I would love to see some new blood in the lineup for some struggling hitters that looked out matched.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 02, 2024, 04:39:41 PM
Warhawks struggle at the plate and drop the series final 9-1.  The lone run came in the 7th on Matt Scolon's solo home run.  Trinity's Jackson Teer struck out 20, walked none and allowed just 4 hits in a complete game effort. Eli Frank took the loss (5.1IP, 5H, 3ER, 7K).  Pitching in relief were Ben Lee, Jacob McPhearson, Reese Fetherson and Brady Malkow.

The Warhawks finish the series in Texas 2-2. Trinity is 5-2.
 
The WARHAWKS travel to Pensacola, Fl. for eight games beginning 3/10 with McMurray.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 02, 2024, 09:55:49 PM
The way this Point team hits and fields, they are going to be lucky to make the conference tourney.  It's pretty hard watching the entire team swing for the fences. 

Seeing all these other games with double digit runs being put up, this Point lineup won't keep up.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 02, 2024, 10:09:04 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 02, 2024, 04:39:41 PMWarhawks struggle at the plate and drop the series final 9-1.  The lone run came in the 7th on Matt Scolon's solo home run.  Trinity's Jackson Teer struck out 20, walked none and allowed just 4 hits in a complete game effort.
Pretty impressive stat line, especially taking just 109 pitches to do so...  Just for comparison, Kerry Wood threw 122 pitches in his 20 K game against the Astros.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 03, 2024, 05:04:42 PM
Quote from: cubs on March 02, 2024, 10:09:04 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 02, 2024, 04:39:41 PMWarhawks struggle at the plate and drop the series final 9-1.  The lone run came in the 7th on Matt Scolon's solo home run.  Trinity's Jackson Teer struck out 20, walked none and allowed just 4 hits in a complete game effort.
Pretty impressive stat line, especially taking just 109 pitches to do so...  Just for comparison, Kerry Wood threw 122 pitches in his 20 K game against the Astros.

Apparently it's new record for the conference and tied a program record that has stood alone since 1965.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 10, 2024, 04:43:20 PM
The WARHAWKS (3-2) pounded out 21 hits good for a 16-5 win over McMurray (6-8) in Pensecola. The WARHAWKS scored at least two runs in six of the 9 innings. Eli Frank (5x5, 6RBI, 2b,HR) Danny Hopper (3x5, 2 RBI, 2B), Dominik McVay (3x5), Matt Scolan (2x5, RBI, 2B) and Daryl Jackson (2x5, 3RBI) all had multiple hit games.  Alex Najares had a pair of RBI. Matt Berendt started pitching 3.2I allowing 4ER on 6 hits. Jack Hagen gave up a 1ER on 2 hits. Michael Hilken (2I,2H) and Max Huseboe (1I) also relieved. Berendt gets the win.

Same two meet tomorrow followed by a varsity reserve game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 11, 2024, 09:12:54 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 10, 2024, 04:43:20 PMThe WARHAWKS (3-2) pounded out 21 hits good for a 16-5 win over McMurray (6-8) in Pensecola. The WARHAWKS scored at least two runs in six of the 9 innings. Eli Frank (5x5, 6RBI, 2b,HR) Danny Hopper (3x5, 2 RBI, 2B), Dominik McVay (3x5), Matt Scolan (2x5, RBI, 2B) and Daryl Jackson (2x5, 3RBI) all had multiple hit games.  Alex Najares had a pair of RBI. Matt Berendt started pitching 3.2I allowing 4ER on 6 hits. Jack Hagen gave up a 1ER on 2 hits. Michael Hilken (2I,2H) and Max Huseboe (1I) also relieved. Berendt gets the win.

Same two meet tomorrow followed by a varsity reserve game.
Even in a 7-inning game, the starter needs to go at least four innings to qualify for the win...  Looks like Hilken is probably the guy that should be credited with the win instead?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 11, 2024, 09:54:04 AM
I saw when Whitewater was playing Trinity that Adam Cootway didn't play the last 2 games against them.  I assumed he got injured at some point in the 2nd game.  I see that he also didn't play yesterday for the Warhawks.  If he continues to miss games into the conference season that is a huge bat out of the lineup.  It's certainly something to monitor for the conference race.  La Crosse looks insane on paper, Whitewater is always tough.  Stevens Point needs to pull their head out of their ....La Crosse needs someone to challenge them.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 12, 2024, 10:31:55 AM
Not that there is really any traffic going on these baseball forums, I have come across a bunch of WIAC 2024 commitments and I'll post them by team as I have time.

UW-Eau Claire

Austin Curti OF River Falls
Harrison Esau C Rochester Century, MN
Jack Eustice SS Rochester Century, MN
Calvin Gilbertson OF Holmen
Connor Hennen 2B Farmington, MN
Logan Hesselman 2B Eau Claire North
Aaron Heyroth 2B Notre Dame Academy
William Jensen OF Amery
Will Johnson SS  Minneapolis Southwest, MN
Carson O'Connor SS Lakeville South, MN
Alex Rech LHP Verona
Carter Vieth C Elk Mound
Chase Watkins RHP Eau Claire North
Tyler Webb SS Eleva-Strum
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 12, 2024, 10:37:41 AM
UW-La Crosse

Tyler Conger RHP Waukesha South
Aidan Conners 3B Hinsdale Central, IL
AJ Curtis RHP Waukesha North
Carter Gilhausen OF Onalaska
Neil Janssen C Delavan-Darien
Carter Kallies OF Bayport
Brady Lash LHP Wayzata, MN
Taylor Lemanski OF Mosinee
Dawson Miller C Eden Prairie, MN
Austin Olla RHP South Milwaukee
Andrew Palm C Elk River, MN
Charley Rowan SS Stillwater, MN
Aaron Schwechler LHP Hudson
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 12, 2024, 11:01:44 AM
UW-Oshkosh

Jacob Armstrong 3B Timothy Christian, IL
Kael Johns OF Catholic Memorial
Cooper Kamlay RHP Franklin
Bobby Kutt 3B Providence Catholic, IL
Noah Latham-Woodruff OF Madison Memorial
Steffen Mello RHP Edgewood
Vann Olson OF Maple Grove, MN
Ryan Richter 1B Waukesha West
Adam Suess SS Deerfield
Benjamin Volpe SS Whitefish Bay
David Wick 3B Plainfield North, IL
Ethan Wick RHP Appleton North
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 12, 2024, 11:58:33 AM
UW-Platteville

Austin Anderson 1B Deerfield
Jacek Gutowski LHP Rufus King
Daniel Hodel SS Lincoln-Way West, IL
Anthony Massa 3B Lincoln-Way West, IL
Brayden Schimmel OF Whitnall
Alex Simios 1B Huntley, IL
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 12, 2024, 12:29:52 PM
UW-River Falls

Andrew Athmann   MN   Holy Family   C
Blake Bargender   WI   Abbotsford   C
Matthew Baumann   MN   Andover   3B
Dillon Carrell   WA   Shorecrest   LHP
Jackson Conway   MN   Washburn   SS
Ethan Cusack   IL   Maine West   OF
Keegan Dahmen   WI   Monroe   RHP
Zach Denneau   WI   Pius XI   OF
Ryan Eckerle   MN   Eagan   SS
Shaun Gavin   WI   Oshkosh North   3B
Brandon Gentz   MN   Apple Valley   RHP
Tanner Hraby   WI   Medford Area   SS
Thomas Keszo   WI   Shawano   3B
Zach Klempke   MN   Shakopee   RHP
Tommy Kroohn   MN   Woodbury   OF
Isaac Mens   MN   Simley   RHP
Chase Oxborough   MN   Champlin Park   2B
Tomas Palomarez   MN   Providence Academy   SS
Brayden Ramus   WI   Arrowhead   RHP
Aidan Rau   MN   Shakopee   1B
Jack Richards   KS   Olathe South   OF
Micah Salisbury   WI   Ithaca High   SS
Charlie Seel   MN   Wayzata   RHP
Johnny Slack   MN   Irondale   3B
Hudson Wagner   WI   Kimberly   3B
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 12, 2024, 12:40:58 PM
UW-Stevens Point

Joshua Gilroy C Arrowhead
Braylen Nystrom OF Stevens Point
Drew Van Oss OF/2B West De Pere
Kaeden Wagenaar RHP Algonquin, IL
Joey Halser OF Marquette University
Joshua steger RHP/IF Lomira
Ty Rechner RHP Stevens Point
Jaycob Dittmer RHP/IF Denmark
Sam Reimann SS Merrill
Jackson Blomberg UTL Rib Lake
Noah Smits RHP Notre Dame Academy
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 12, 2024, 02:06:58 PM
UW-Stout

Spencer Anderson RHP Kasson-Mantorville, MN
Aiden Cicogna SS Stillman Valley, IL
Hudson Whitman 1B St Croix Prep Academy, MN
Ryan Williamson RHP Oshkosh West
Kevin Zanin 2B Mount Carmel, IL
Cameron Ziebell C Mosinee
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 12, 2024, 02:13:13 PM
UW-Whitewater

Michael Buono C St Charles North, IL
Ethan Engelbrecht RHP Oak Creek
Brady Gilroy OF Burlington Central
Talan Meinen OF Muskego
Sam Polyock RHP Badger
Nick Randell OF Hampshire, IL
Braylan Roder C McFarland
Landen Seymour OF Hononegah, IL
Jackson Spring SS St Charles North,IL
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 12, 2024, 05:03:15 PM
The Warhawks (3-3) struggled on the mound and in the field dropping game two to McMurray 13-5. Frank started giving up 5R, 3ER on 4 hits striking out 6 in the first 3 innings.  Hansen relieved him for a couple innings giving up 4ER on 4 hits, a BB and 3Ks.  Wickman pitched an inning allowing a hit, 2R, 1ER and walked a pair.  Kottmeyer finished the final 3 innings surrendering a single hit, 2ER, 4BB and pair of strikeouts. McVay and Holland were the only WARHAWK batters with multiple hits (2 each). Theis and Bennett each had a pair of RBI and Frank had an RBI.  Defensively the WARHAWKS committed 4 fielding errors.

Today it's a twin bill with the University of Chicago and Carroll.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 13, 2024, 11:41:32 AM
Starting pitching excelled yesterday leading the Warhawks (5-3) to a pair of wins 6-2 over the University of Chicago (1-7) and 10-2 over Carroll (4-6).  Max Husebo threw 6.1 no hit innings before surrendering a single.  Husebo pitched a shutout striking out 12 while allowing just a single hit and walk.  Hooper relieved him surrendering a pair of earned runs on 3 hits striking out 4 and Burk Jackson finished the game with a hitless 9th striking out one. Koenig was the only Warhawk with multiple hits going 2x4. Thies and Gordon each drove in a pair. Najera and Jackson had single RBIs.

Hilker started game two allowing just a single hit and striking out 11 in 5 innings of work.  McPherson allowed both Carroll runs (earned) on one 1 hit striking out 4.  Eisenbarth and Koenig each pitched a hitless inning striking out 2 and 1 respectively.  Najera led Warhawk hitters with 3 hits and an RBI. Koenig had a pair of hits including a double and an RBI. Scolon, Frank and Thies each had RBIs while Frazier Bennett drove in a pair.

Today's schedule features a twin bill vs 11th ranked Southern Birmingham.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 13, 2024, 12:14:21 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 13, 2024, 11:41:32 AMStarting pitching excelled yesterday leading the Warhawks (5-3) to a pair of wins 6-2 over the University of Chicago (1-7) and 10-2 over Carroll (4-6).  Max Husebo threw 6.1 no hit innings before surrendering a single.  Husebo pitched a shutout striking out 12 while allowing just a single hit and walk.  Hooper relieved him surrendering a pair of earned runs on 3 hits striking out 4 and Burk Jackson finished the game with a hitless 9th striking out one. Koenig was the only Warhawk with multiple hits going 2x4. Thies and Gordon each drove in a pair. Najera and Jackson had single RBIs.

Hilker started game two allowing just a single hit and striking out 11 in 5 innings of work.  McPherson allowed both Carroll runs (earned) on one 1 hit striking out 4.  Eisenbarth and Koenig each pitched a hitless inning striking out 2 and 1 respectively.  Najera led Warhawk hitters with 3 hits and an RBI. Koenig had a pair of hits including a double and an RBI. Scolon, Frank and Thies each had RBIs while Frazier Bennett drove in a pair.

Today's schedule features a twin bill vs 11th ranked Southern Birmingham.

I guess there is no information on Cootway?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 16, 2024, 01:50:06 PM
No, nothing that I've heard.  Obviously it's significant because we're headed home tomorrow and he hasn't played an inning in Florida.

The Warhawks (6-3) got strong pitching and pounded out 17 hits beating 11th ranked Birmingham-Southern (10-6)17-3 in the first of two.  Cade Berendt (W,1-0) pitched 7 strong innings allowing just 4 hits, a pair of earned runs and striking out 3 before being relieved by Eisenbarth who allowed 1 hit, an earned run and striking out one in the final two innings. Holland led the hitters with 3 hits and an RBI. Hitters getting a pair included Scolon (2RBI), Frank (2B,3B,2RBI), Padan (2B, 2RBI) and Hooper (2 RBI).  Koenig (2B) and Jackson had solo RBI.

The WARHAWKS solid pitching continued in game two though the game was much more defensive with the WARHAWKS (7-3) beating Birmingham-Southern (10-7) 6-2.  Hagan (3-0) got the W allowing 4H and 2ER while striking out 6 and walking a pair over 6.2 innings. Burk (S,1) picked up the first WARHAWKS save of the year allowing just 1 hit and striking out 3 in 2.1 innings.  The WARHAWKS had just six hits in the contest. Padan (3B) had the only extra base hit and an RBI. Frank had a pair of RBI while both Holland and Hooper drove in one.

The WARHAWKS went a combined 8-8 on the basepaths in the two contests.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 16, 2024, 02:03:12 PM
The Warhawks (8-3) needed to ride our pitching again yesterday beating Sewanee (10-9) 6-1.  Only Thies with 3 hits and an RBI had a multiple hit day. Padan (2), Hooper (1), Frank (1) and Pease (1) all had RBI.  Frank (1-2) got his first win pitching 5 innings allowing 4 hits, an earned run and striking out 7. Koening got a strikeout over his 2 hitless innings while Hansen allowed an earned run on 2 hits and 1 strikeout and Lee struck out the side to close the contest.

Huntington today, fly home tonight. Loras in Dubuque next Thursday before the WIAC season opens Friday with Stout in town for the weekend. Finally, something I don't have to watch onlne.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 17, 2024, 12:31:04 PM
Paulsen looking really good today.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 17, 2024, 02:51:51 PM
Where is Jacob Boos?? I thought he was returning and hed definitely provide some experience to their lineup. Is he just injured or something? Have the 2 d1 transfer pitchers even pitched yet this year?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 17, 2024, 03:22:54 PM
All I can say is the Pointers have their work cut out for them after starting 0-3. The loss to Denison stings because they were ranked high and pointers blew bigger lead. If they can somehow finish this trip with only 5 losses total and then sweep Marion and Eau Claire they'll be 11-5 and at least have some life if their defense starts playing better.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 17, 2024, 08:06:11 PM
The Warhawks (9-3) got solid pitching again today holding Hunington (8-7) to just five hits while getting fifteen themselves in the 17-2 win. Husebo (2-0) allowed 3 hits in 4 innings producing just 1 unearned run while striking out 3 for the win. Hilker struck out 2 in 2 innings of hitless relief with McPherson, Dupor and Eisenbarth each pitched an inning allowing 2 hits and 1 earned run while striking out 3 combined. Scolon with three hits including a 2B and HR drove in 3 runs to lead the Warhawks. Thies also had 3 hits and an RBI.  Jackson and Bennett each had a pair of hits, including a double apiece and drove in 2 and 3 RBI respectively. Koenig had a pair of RBI and Bogue, Gordon, O'Brien, Wessel and Padan all had single RBI.


PS: It was a nine inning game so I don't see how Husebo gets the win pitching only 4. But that's how the box has it. I believe the win should go to Hilker.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 18, 2024, 08:30:28 PM
Ex-Pointer JP Feyereisen struck out both hitters he faced today in the DODGERS 5-2 win over an all star Korean team.  The fact he made the trip with the team is a good sign of the likelihood of his making the final roster in a relief role. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: mr_b on March 18, 2024, 09:47:43 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 17, 2024, 08:06:11 PMThe Warhawks (9-3) got solid pitching again today holding Hunington (8-7) to just five hits while getting fifteen themselves in the 17-2 win. Husebo (2-0) allowed 3 hits in 4 innings producing just 1 unearned run while striking out 3 for the win. Hilker struck out 2 in 2 innings of hitless relief with McPherson, Dupor and Eisenbarth each pitched an inning allowing 2 hits and 1 earned run while striking out 3 combined. Scolon with three hits including a 2B and HR drove in 3 runs to lead the Warhawks. Thies also had 3 hits and an RBI.  Jackson and Bennett each had a pair of hits, including a double apiece and drove in 2 and 3 RBI respectively. Koenig had a pair of RBI and Bogue, Gordon, O'Brien, Wessel and Padan all had single RBI.


PS: It was a nine inning game so I don't see how Husebo gets the win pitching only 4. But that's how the box has it. I believe the win should go to Hilker.
That would be the logical choice, but if the head coaches agree before the game starts, the starting pitcher *can* be credited with the victory even if he doesn't go five innings.  That's why you see an occasional bullpen game with a starting pitcher going one inning and ending up with the W if the offense gives him the lead.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 19, 2024, 01:33:25 PM
Huge win for the Pointers this morning over #1 Endicott.  They have another huge game going on now against #13th ranked Johns Hopkins, who just beat La Crosse 8-0 this morning.

Where is Mason Weckler and JD Schultz?  They still have yet to throw a pitch for the Pointers this year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 20, 2024, 05:38:15 PM
Quote from: mr_b on March 18, 2024, 09:47:43 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 17, 2024, 08:06:11 PMThe Warhawks (9-3) got solid pitching again today holding Hunington (8-7) to just five hits while getting fifteen themselves in the 17-2 win. Husebo (2-0) allowed 3 hits in 4 innings producing just 1 unearned run while striking out 3 for the win. Hilker struck out 2 in 2 innings of hitless relief with McPherson, Dupor and Eisenbarth each pitched an inning allowing 2 hits and 1 earned run while striking out 3 combined. Scolon with three hits including a 2B and HR drove in 3 runs to lead the Warhawks. Thies also had 3 hits and an RBI.  Jackson and Bennett each had a pair of hits, including a double apiece and drove in 2 and 3 RBI respectively. Koenig had a pair of RBI and Bogue, Gordon, O'Brien, Wessel and Padan all had single RBI.


PS: It was a nine inning game so I don't see how Husebo gets the win pitching only 4. But that's how the box has it. I believe the win should go to Hilker.
That would be the logical choice, but if the head coaches agree before the game starts, the starting pitcher *can* be credited with the victory even if he doesn't go five innings.  That's why you see an occasional bullpen game with a starting pitcher going one inning and ending up with the W if the offense gives him the lead.


I knew coaches could agree on 4 innings if the game is 7 innings but I wasn't aware of it being applied as you've indicated. Of course I have no idea what if anything the coaches may have agreed upon in advance. Interesting, I'll have to ask about that.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: sncsid on March 20, 2024, 06:50:58 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 20, 2024, 05:38:15 PM
Quote from: mr_b on March 18, 2024, 09:47:43 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 17, 2024, 08:06:11 PMThe Warhawks (9-3) got solid pitching again today holding Hunington (8-7) to just five hits while getting fifteen themselves in the 17-2 win. Husebo (2-0) allowed 3 hits in 4 innings producing just 1 unearned run while striking out 3 for the win. Hilker struck out 2 in 2 innings of hitless relief with McPherson, Dupor and Eisenbarth each pitched an inning allowing 2 hits and 1 earned run while striking out 3 combined. Scolon with three hits including a 2B and HR drove in 3 runs to lead the Warhawks. Thies also had 3 hits and an RBI.  Jackson and Bennett each had a pair of hits, including a double apiece and drove in 2 and 3 RBI respectively. Koenig had a pair of RBI and Bogue, Gordon, O'Brien, Wessel and Padan all had single RBI.


PS: It was a nine inning game so I don't see how Husebo gets the win pitching only 4. But that's how the box has it. I believe the win should go to Hilker.
That would be the logical choice, but if the head coaches agree before the game starts, the starting pitcher *can* be credited with the victory even if he doesn't go five innings.  That's why you see an occasional bullpen game with a starting pitcher going one inning and ending up with the W if the offense gives him the lead.


I knew coaches could agree on 4 innings if the game is 7 innings but I wasn't aware of it being applied as you've indicated. Of course I have no idea what if anything the coaches may have agreed upon in advance. Interesting, I'll have to ask about that.

There is an NCAA scoring rule where if a coach has a prearranged pitching schedule for that game, then the pitcher of record gets the win regardless of innings pitched. The "prearrangement" part is used pretty liberally by SIDs, but that one is indeed on the books. No agreement by opponents is necessary. You'll often see this in games where a team will throw a pitcher per inning in a midweek game, for example.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 21, 2024, 04:33:46 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on March 19, 2024, 01:33:25 PMHuge win for the Pointers this morning over #1 Endicott.  They have another huge game going on now against #13th ranked Johns Hopkins, who just beat La Crosse 8-0 this morning.

Where is Mason Weckler and JD Schultz?  They still have yet to throw a pitch for the Pointers this year.


JD pitched today and struck out 12 in win. Pointers now 4-4 and seem to be trying to figure out best defensive lineup along with hitting and the kid in right field today looks really good but I have so many questions like you said why did it take this long for him to pitch and where is Weckler? Where's Jacob Boos and did Brennan Huber get hurt before season began? Logan Mattson I know is coaching at Eau Claire I believe did the incident getting hit in eye last year make it where he didn't want to play any longer or couldn't he? Brendan Canterbury had a year left if wanted any idea as to why he didn't come back? He would've really helped and given Pointers experience in right and was consistent hitter. I think this squad has the ability to pitch and hit but I'm worried about defense and Ferry's going to have to pitch lights out or the coaches need to use him less and figure out who else can close games or be set up man. Pitching depth looks really good just hope someone can be dominant at top or even top 2
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tomt4525 on March 21, 2024, 04:43:28 PM
JD Schultz didn't pitch today, Kenny Schultz did.  So, still haven't seen JD or Mason Weckler on the bump this season.  I expected those 2 guys to be 2 of the 3 best starting pitchers Point had this season, without them, they don't have the depth to make a run.  Huber was a freshman I was excited about, he's listed on the roster but doesn't have a jersey number.  I have zero concrete information on him but an injury certainly is possible.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 21, 2024, 11:20:57 PM
I noticed after I sent that and looked at box score. Something is definitely off so far although they seem to be turning things around somewhat. If those two pitchers are healthy or coming back healthy their rotation would be formidable but Pickering seems so hit or miss. Kenny Schultz really should be the ace id think and Weckler definitely looked good last year as the 2 but I guess no matter what Kenny, JD, Mason, and Pickering is really good plus they have two d1 pitching transfers. I really wish I knew what happened to Boos he was solid last two years have hard time he got beaten out or wouldn't see field. Jackson Adams is looking really good
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 25, 2024, 10:16:48 AM
Quote from: ShineTime on March 21, 2024, 04:33:46 PMBrendan Canterbury had a year left if wanted any idea as to why he didn't come back? He would've really helped and given Pointers experience in right and was consistent hitter.
He wanted to focus on his career becoming an Athletic Trainer, which in turn meant completing his clinical hours and choosing to get his Master's Degree.  I would venture to guess that the clinical hours conflicted directly with the baseball practice schedule which is why he was unable to do both.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on March 26, 2024, 10:30:27 PM
Thanks for sharing the info Can't expect every kid to stay in college 5-6 years good for him focusing on a career. Certainly would've helped Pointers but they also have some really good talent on the roster so hopefully someone will stay consistent. Don't need 9 guys swinging for home runs all the time I feel the pointers are missing Boos but once again Soule is really good but the experience is missed I'd love to know if he's injured or what's going on same with Brennan Huber who was first team all state last year. Also would love to know what's going on with Weckler and JD Schultz just extremely bizarre situation and if those two ever get healthy they're looking at a formidable rotation which I feel should be 1. Kenny Schultz 2. Mason Weckler 3. JD Schultz 4. Casey Pickering. Schultz and Weckler could be switched but I'm convinced that Pickering should be the 4 and he'd be a very good one.