BB: Pool B

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BigPoppa

Chapman's acceptance into the SCIAC has been approved. Is this a good or bad thing for the SCIAC? Does the conference benefit from another high-profile team in the league or does it hurt them as some teams may now not get to choose WHEN they play Chapman?

I see it as a bit troublesome for Chapman as the SCIAC bid is tougher to get than a Pool B bid.
Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.

Ralph Turner

I think that Chapman #2-West and Piedmont #3-South have the 2 Pool B bids.

CWRU (#5 Mideast) is on the bubble in the Mideast behind the OAC Heidelberg or Marietta loser, assuming that one or the other wins the OAC.

CrashDavisD3

#587
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 12, 2011, 05:35:32 PM
Chapman's acceptance into the SCIAC has been approved. Is this a good or bad thing for the SCIAC? Does the conference benefit from another high-profile team in the league or does it hurt them as some teams may now not get to choose WHEN they play Chapman?

I see it as a bit troublesome for Chapman as the SCIAC bid is tougher to get than a Pool B bid.
Chapman joins the SCIAC
http://www.ocregister.com/sports/chapman-300295-conference-california.html

http://www.thesciac.org/general_news/2010-11/CU_Welcome_Release

http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2011/05/chapman-joins-sciac

2009 Chapman would NOT have made the playoffs in baseball if there were in the SCIAC. Chapman had a horrible record vs the SCIAC that year but won a Pool B bid, Won the West Regional and finished in 3rd place in Appleton,  1 game away from the final day and the championship games despite losing to injuries their #1 pitcher and starting catcher.
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
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Ralph Turner

Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on May 12, 2011, 11:33:29 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 12, 2011, 05:35:32 PM
Chapman's acceptance into the SCIAC has been approved. Is this a good or bad thing for the SCIAC? Does the conference benefit from another high-profile team in the league or does it hurt them as some teams may now not get to choose WHEN they play Chapman?

I see it as a bit troublesome for Chapman as the SCIAC bid is tougher to get than a Pool B bid.
Chapman joins the SCIAC
http://www.ocregister.com/sports/chapman-300295-conference-california.html

http://www.thesciac.org/general_news/2010-11/CU_Welcome_Release

http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2011/05/chapman-joins-sciac

2009 Chapman would NOT have made the playoffs in baseball if there were in the SCIAC. Chapman had a horrible record vs the SCIAC that year but won a Pool B bid, Won the West Regional and finished in 3rd place in Appleton,  1 game away from the final day and the championship games despite losing to injuries their #1 pitcher and starting catcher.
Chapman went 9-6 against the SCIAC.

Add 4 more wins vs. CIT -- 13-6.

Unless, Chapman wins 1 more game against Whittier, PP and ULV, 2 more games against CMS and 3 more games against CLU and 1 more game against Redlands, Chapman does not earn the SCIAC AQ.

Ralph Turner

#589
Pool B -- The results of the first day.

The teams which qualified in Pool B in 2011 (2 bids):

Chapman  Defeated Pool C   UT-Tyler 7-0.
Piedmont*  Defeated Pool C  Salisbury 10-1.
CWRU      Defeated Pool A  Adrian 5-4

Vs. Pool A  1-0
Vs. Pool C  2-0.

*Piedmont was a Pool B which qualified as a Pool C.




Ralph Turner

#590
Pool B -- Summary

Day #2

Piedmont lost to Pool C Shenandoah 14-5
Chapman beat Pool A Redlands 8-4
CWRU lost to Pool C Heidelberg 8-1

Day #3

Piedmont beat Pool A Webster 2-1
Piedmont lost to Pool C Shenandoah 6-1
Chapman beat Pool A Concordia TX 9-3
CWRU beat Pool A PSU-Altoona 12-6
CWRU beat Pool A Franklin 104

Day #4

Chapman beat Pool A Linfield 8-7
CWRU lost to Pool C Heidelberg 16-6

Piedmont (2-2):

vs Pool A -- 1-0
vs Pool C -- 1-2

Chapman (4-0)

vs Pool A -- 3-0
vs Pool C -- 1-0

CWRU (3-2)

vs Pool A -- 3-0
vs Pool C -- 0-2

Total:

vs Pool A -- 7-0
vs Pool C -- 2-4.

OshDude


Ralph Turner

#592
Quote from: OshDude on May 22, 2011, 09:25:39 PM
Case was Pool B.

Fair enough, even tho' they came in as a Pool C.

Thanks.



Corrections made.  Thanks and +1!  (Piedmont was the B as a C.)

OshDude


Ralph Turner

#594
Watching Turkey Day football...

My first guess at Pool B will be 26 25 schools, and 2 Pool B bids.

(I don't think that the access ratio will be less than 1:8.25.)

Central Region:  (3)
Univ. of Chicago(IND)
Nebraska Wesleyan(IND)
Washington U St Louis (UAA)

Mid-Atlantic:  (1) 0
Lancaster Bible  (IND) Gone to the NEAC

Mideast:  (2)
Case Western Reserve (UAA)
Finlandia(IND)

Midwest:  (0 1) 
North Central U MN (IND)

New England:  ( 2)
Brandeis (UAA)
U Maine-Presque Isle(IND)

New York:  (12  11)
Baruch (CUNYAC)
City College of New York  (CUNYAC)
Ithaca (E8)
John Jay (CUNYAC)
Lehman  (CUNYAC)
Rochester Institute of Technology (E8)   Gone to the Liberty League in 2012.
St John Fisher (E8)
College of Staten Island (CUNYAC)
Stevens Tech (E8)
Utica (E8)
Yeshiva (CUNYAC)
St Joseph's -- Brooklyn (IND)Competing in the USCAA Tourney on May 6-7-8, 2012

A question...has the CUNYAC sought an affiliation agreement with St Joseph's Brooklyn to get to 7 members and to get a Pool A bid?

South:  (6)
Emory (UAA)
Huntingdon (GSAC)
LaGrange (GSAC; last season in the GSAC. Going to the USA South in 2012-13.) 
Maryville (GSAC. Going to the USA South in 2012-13.)
Piedmont (GSAC. Going to the USA South in 2012-13.)
Rust(IND)

West:  (2 0)
Chapman(IND)  Gone to Pool C and the SCIAC
Univ of Dallas(IND)  Gone to the SCAC, in Pool A.



Corrections appreciated.  Thanks.

CrashDavisD3

Thanks again Ralph for creating a clear understanding for Pool B. You are great at sorting out some of the confusion.  Hope you had a great Thanksgiving !
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

BBFan62

Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 24, 2011, 07:11:20 PM
Watching Turkey Day football...

My first guess at Pool B will be 26 schools, and 2 Pool B bids.

(I don't think that the access ratio will be less than 1:8.25.)

Central Region:  (3)
Univ. of Chicago(IND)
Nebraska Wesleyan(IND)
Washington U St Louis (UAA)

Mid-Atlantic:  (1) 0
Lancaster Bible  (IND) Gone to the NEAC

Mideast:  (2)
Case Western Reserve (UAA)
Finlandia(IND)

Midwest:  (0 1) 
North Central U MN (IND)

New England:  (8  2)
Brandeis (UAA)
U Maine-Presque Isle(IND)

New York:  (12)
Baruch (CUNYAC)
City College of New York  (CUNYAC)
Ithaca (E8)
John Jay (CUNYAC)
Lehman  (CUNYAC)
Rochester Institute of Technology (E8)
St John Fisher (E8)
College of Staten Island (CUNYAC)
Stevens Tech (E8)
Utica (E8)
Yeshiva (CUNYAC)
St Joseph's -- Brooklyn (IND)Competing in the USCAA Tourney on May 6-7-8, 2012

South:  (6)
Emory (UAA)
Huntingdon (GSAC)
LaGrange (GSAC)
Maryville (GSAC)
Piedmont (GSAC)
Rust(IND)

West:  (2 0)
Chapman(IND)  Gone to Pool C and the SCIAC
Univ of Dallas(IND)  Gone to the SCAC



Corrections appreciated.  Thanks.

Nice to ponder as we inch our ay to Spring.
Rochester Institute of Technology is in the Liberty League starting 2012. Would that make a difference?

CrashDavisD3

#597
Quote from: BBFan62 on November 26, 2011, 02:37:37 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 24, 2011, 07:11:20 PM
Watching Turkey Day football...

My first guess at Pool B will be 26 schools, and 2 Pool B bids.

(I don't think that the access ratio will be less than 1:8.25.)

Central Region:  (3)
Univ. of Chicago(IND)
Nebraska Wesleyan(IND)
Washington U St Louis (UAA)

Mid-Atlantic:  (1) 0
Lancaster Bible  (IND) Gone to the NEAC

Mideast:  (2)
Case Western Reserve (UAA)
Finlandia(IND)

Midwest:  (0 1) 
North Central U MN (IND)

New England:  (8  2)
Brandeis (UAA)
U Maine-Presque Isle(IND)

New York:  (12)
Baruch (CUNYAC)
City College of New York  (CUNYAC)
Ithaca (E8)
John Jay (CUNYAC)
Lehman  (CUNYAC)
Rochester Institute of Technology (E8)
St John Fisher (E8)
College of Staten Island (CUNYAC)
Stevens Tech (E8)
Utica (E8)
Yeshiva (CUNYAC)
St Joseph's -- Brooklyn (IND)Competing in the USCAA Tourney on May 6-7-8, 2012

South:  (6)
Emory (UAA)
Huntingdon (GSAC)
LaGrange (GSAC)
Maryville (GSAC)
Piedmont (GSAC)
Rust(IND)

West:  (2 0)
Chapman(IND)  Gone to Pool C and the SCIAC
Univ of Dallas(IND)  Gone to the SCAC



Corrections appreciated.  Thanks.

Nice to ponder as we inch our ay to Spring.
Rochester Institute of Technology is in the Liberty League starting 2012. Would that make a difference?
Will UDallas in 2012 be eligible for Pool C only or Pool A SCAC also

26 schools but only 2 bids   1:13 ratio with my math should they not be 3 pool bids with a 1:8 ration?
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

rolln2

Also beginning w/ the 2013 season the south region will see three teams move from pool C to pool A as Piedmont, LaGrange, and Maryville move into the USAS conference.  Giving that conference nine teams.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: CDD3 on November 26, 2011, 09:01:38 PM


26 schools but only 2 bids   1:13 ratio with my math should they not be 3 pool bids with a 1:8 ration?
The access ratio is the number of schools in Pool A conferences divided by the number of Pool A conferences.

About 1:8.5.  Divide the number of Pool B schools by the access ratio and then truncate the dividend, the answer.