Mock D3 brackets will be out by sunrise.
Whitewater bracket
http://www.ncaa.com/sites/default/files/external/springbrackets/2013baseball/2013D3BaseballUWWhitewater.pdf
CWRU gets shipped to region with last weeks #2 and #3.
http://www.uwwsports.com/sports/2013/5/1/BSB_0501130828.aspx?path=baseball
Quote from: GBMAN on May 13, 2013, 10:56:47 AM
http://www.uwwsports.com/sports/2013/5/1/BSB_0501130828.aspx?path=baseball
Appears to be an all-synthetic surface.
Quote from: ADL70 on May 13, 2013, 12:26:59 PM
Quote from: GBMAN on May 13, 2013, 10:56:47 AM
http://www.uwwsports.com/sports/2013/5/1/BSB_0501130828.aspx?path=baseball
Appears to be an all-synthetic surface.
The outfield is grass
And the mound is dirt.
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on May 13, 2013, 01:26:08 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on May 13, 2013, 12:28:41 PM
And the mound is dirt.
And the bats are not wood?
You got it. ;)
I haven't seem many FieldTurf mounds yet, but there's a few out there.
Got a couple of aces taking the mound in Game #1 as it will be Maher vs Jensen....
Wish we had video to accompany the dulcet tones of Joe Wicklund.
St. Scholastica on the verge of an opening game upset. Leads St. Thomas 1-0 going to the ninth inning.
http://www.sidearmstats.com/uww/baseball/scoreboard.aspx
Quote from: Just Bill on May 15, 2013, 02:50:44 PM
St. Scholastica on the verge of an opening game upset. Leads St. Thomas 1-0 going to the ninth inning.
http://www.sidearmstats.com/uww/baseball/scoreboard.aspx
"There are no upsets in the post-season..."
-Augie Schmidt
CSS 1
St. Thomas 0
FINAL
The Saints do it again!!!!
CSS had roughly 71 errors in the UMAC tourney. UST is one of the best fielding teams in the nation.
Today CSS's outfield made a few crucial plays. UST's defense tossed it around the field to allow the game's lone run. Cue Piano Man.
Baseball is awesome.
So like I said about the Tommie lineup hitting good pitching....... >:(
Talk about some big time pitching performances by Jensen and Rogers. Wonder who CSS will go to tomorrow? I still don't think they can swing the bats well enough to win the regional.
Quote from: therocket21 on May 15, 2013, 03:45:00 PM
Talk about some big time pitching performances by Jensen and Rogers. Wonder who CSS will go to tomorrow? I still don't think they can swing the bats well enough to win the regional.
Keuning I imagine.
why is admission $6 for Mdwest and only $3 for adults at the Ithaca region? NCAA gouging naive Midwesterners?
Quote from: miacmaniac on May 15, 2013, 05:17:12 PM
why is admission $6 for Mdwest and only $3 for adults at the Ithaca region? NCAA gouging naive Midwesterners?
$7 at Augie, $10 in Texas.
Host school sets admission charges.
Jensen doesn't have the best stuff but flat out competes. Makes big pitches in big situations. Tommies played the choke artist today and missed many opportunities.
I don't think CSS has the depth to go much further in this tournament. They're not the same team when Jensen isn't pitching.
The Tommies still have 3-4 starters that can shut anyone down.
This will be a very entertaining regional and is living up to its expectation.
No sense to even play the games. The UMAC is terrible but all you can do is win it 17 straight times. CSS is in the mix with the best every year.
John Vodenlich ejected in the fourth. UW-Whitewater leading by three after seven.
What more can be said than wow? Point comes back and wins 7 to 6 in 10. Still a ton of work to do for point but I think messenger or stroik can get it done.
UWSP is definitely in the drivers seat here...
Noon: CSS vs. UWW
3PM: UST vs. CWRU
7PM: UWSP vs. Noon winner
Quote from: MIACBomber on May 16, 2013, 10:39:10 PM
UWSP is definitely in the drivers seat here...
Noon: CSS vs. UWW
3PM: UST vs. CWRU
7PM: UWSP vs. Noon winner
Will be interesting to see what they do tomorrow...if they try to knock someone out or hold a pitcher back for the championship.
I'm guessing st Thomas doesn't throw Thomas thinking they can win and save him. I'm guessing point will throw stroik if whitewater wins seeing he had early season success against them. Plaza will go for whitewater against scholastica I would think.
Elimination game. Gotta start your guns. CWRU played UWW tough and beat a good CSS team. I think you have to start Thomas. If you get a lead early you can always pull him. Can't be booted out of a regional by the 3rd game with one of your aces yet to toe the rubber.
Quote from: miacmaniac on May 15, 2013, 05:17:12 PM
why is admission $6 for Mdwest and only $3 for adults at the Ithaca region? NCAA gouging naive Midwesterners?
Better teams? ::)
Come on Case!
It's do or die!
There was 7or 8 hit by pitch in the game. WW hit 5 and SP hit 2 or 3. SP got every base. WW didnt get any. Ump said WW batter leaned in, but SP looked to do same thing. Vo was thrown for comment walking away from ump after argument
I'm still scratching my head after watching last night's UWW-UWSP home plate umpire two hit by pitch situation by not awarding the batter first base. He also overruled himself on another similar call on a SP batter by eventually awarding the Pointer batter 1st base following a discussion with Point's head coach.
The only other time I've witnessed a similar situation was in the 2007 WIAC Tournament when iconic UW-Oshkosh head coach Tom Lechnir had a similar conversation with the home plate umpire which led to three similar "no hit batter" calls in the game.
BTW... I received word this morning that last night's WIAC home plate umpire has received a Major League umpire contract offer because he possesses the traits needed to fit in with current Major League umpires.
Just Kidding! :)
Good luck today CASE!! from the Marietta and other Mideast fans!
I've seen a hit by pitch called strike 3 before. Hit the guy on the top of the knee, ump said his knee was over the inside corner, rang him up.
For some reason, the hit by pitch thing sometimes seems to appear out of nowhere in the postseason. I've seen it pop up before in conference tournaments and regional tournaments. It feels like it's a rule largely ignored for much of the regular season, and then for whatever reason umpires begin enforcing it again. I don't know if conference commissioners or the NCAA reps make it a point of emphasis, but it's not the first time it's been an issue.
Quote from: Just Bill on May 17, 2013, 02:44:19 PM
For some reason, the hit by pitch thing sometimes seems to appear out of nowhere in the postseason. I've seen it pop up before in conference tournaments and regional tournaments. It feels like it's a rule largely ignored for much of the regular season, and then for whatever reason umpires begin enforcing it again. I don't know if conference commissioners or the NCAA reps make it a point of emphasis, but it's not the first time it's been an issue.
A HBP comes around to score the winning St. Scholastica run. Roberts and Zander plunked the first two batters of the 10th. St. Scholastica scored without a hit.
CSS had to knock on wood that it could get through the meat of the UWW lineup again. "Beat It" wasn't the lucky charm, but KLF ends up rockin' home the clincher. CSS finally scales Mount Whitewater at a regional. Cue Piano Man.
Twitter says Franz is starting for UST today. That was my guess too. The idea isn't to get to the next game. The idea is to win the regional. The best chance St. Thomas has of winning the regional is with Thomas facing Stevens Point. I'm assuming Thomas would be first out of the pen should Case run out front.
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on May 17, 2013, 04:13:57 PM
Twitter says Franz is starting for UST today. That was my guess too. The idea isn't to get to the next game. The idea is to win the regional. The best chance St. Thomas has of winning the regional is with Thomas facing Stevens Point. I'm assuming Thomas would be first out of the pen should Case run out front.
you are correct. Assuming UST gets past Case & Thomas leads them to a W over UWSP in Sat's first game, I expect a "piching committee"- Danzyk, Maher and whomever Olean feels is hot to go in the 2nd game tomorrow (lot of assumptions there, I know)
Things would get really interesting if CSS gets past USP tonight
Quote from: BaseballFan on May 17, 2013, 04:28:10 PM
Things would get really interesting if CSS gets past USP tonight
I'm all for things getting interesting.
What would be better is if st Thomas chokes and loses to case.
Quote from: ShineTime on May 17, 2013, 05:52:45 PM
What would be better is if st Thomas chokes and loses to got outplayed by case.
Fixed it for you. I think you spelled some of those words incorrectly.
Congrats to Case.
Final Score from WW Regional:
Case Western 7, St. Thomas 3
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on May 17, 2013, 04:13:57 PM
Twitter says Franz is starting for UST today. That was my guess too. The idea isn't to get to the next game. The idea is to win the regional. The best chance St. Thomas has of winning the regional is with Thomas facing Stevens Point. I'm assuming Thomas would be first out of the pen should Case run out front.
That didn't work out too well for the Tommies. Case 7 UST 3
Now you explain how you get eliminated and you used your All American 1 meaningless inning. Ouch
It's flat out embarrassing they didn't use him its not like point and scholastica are bringing all Americans to the mound. The second they knew they were in for a game Thomas should've had the ball. Lets hope point can get it done now wounldnt be bad for attendance either at appleton
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on May 17, 2013, 04:13:57 PM
Twitter says Franz is starting for UST today. That was my guess too. The idea isn't to get to the next game. The idea is to win the regional. The best chance St. Thomas has of winning the regional is with Thomas facing Stevens Point. I'm assuming Thomas would be first out of the pen should Case run out front.
That's just dumb
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 17, 2013, 06:50:46 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on May 17, 2013, 04:13:57 PM
Twitter says Franz is starting for UST today. That was my guess too. The idea isn't to get to the next game. The idea is to win the regional. The best chance St. Thomas has of winning the regional is with Thomas facing Stevens Point. I'm assuming Thomas would be first out of the pen should Case run out front.
That didn't work out too well for the Tommies. Case 7 UST 3
Now you explain how you get eliminated and you used your All American 1 meaningless inning. Ouch
Nothing to explain. It's a matter of mapping a strategy to win it. Doesn't matter if you lost today or tomorrow. I think UST's strategy was plausible. UST's execution of the strategy wasn't successful.
It's not a philosophy that everyone will agree with.
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on May 17, 2013, 06:58:01 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 17, 2013, 06:50:46 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on May 17, 2013, 04:13:57 PM
Twitter says Franz is starting for UST today. That was my guess too. The idea isn't to get to the next game. The idea is to win the regional. The best chance St. Thomas has of winning the regional is with Thomas facing Stevens Point. I'm assuming Thomas would be first out of the pen should Case run out front.
That didn't work out too well for the Tommies. Case 7 UST 3
Now you explain how you get eliminated and you used your All American 1 meaningless inning. Ouch
Nothing to explain. It's a matter of mapping a strategy to win it. Doesn't matter if you lost today or tomorrow. I think UST's strategy was plausible. UST's execution of the strategy wasn't successful.
It's not a philosophy that everyone will agree with.
I doubt Dennis Denning would have done that.
CASE WINS!!!!
GO SPARTANS!!!!
That'll do, Messenger.
Say it ain't so, Joe. Gonna miss your call, good man. Glad I got to listen to your reliable warm blanket of a webcast all these years. Share your iPod with the next in line. Make sure he or she knows that certain situations call for certain tracks. DMB deep cuts are universal though, especially when fielding requests from All-Americans. Be well.
FWIW (and it might not be worth enough), CWRU has the more rested pitching staff.
I expect lefty Fortunato to start game one.
http://athletics.case.edu/sports/bsb/2012-13/bios/fortunato_john_6a6i
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on May 17, 2013, 06:58:01 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 17, 2013, 06:50:46 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on May 17, 2013, 04:13:57 PM
Twitter says Franz is starting for UST today. That was my guess too. The idea isn't to get to the next game. The idea is to win the regional. The best chance St. Thomas has of winning the regional is with Thomas facing Stevens Point. I'm assuming Thomas would be first out of the pen should Case run out front.
That didn't work out too well for the Tommies. Case 7 UST 3
Now you explain how you get eliminated and you used your All American 1 meaningless inning. Ouch
Nothing to explain. It's a matter of mapping a strategy to win it. Doesn't matter if you lost today or tomorrow. I think UST's strategy was plausible. UST's execution of the strategy wasn't successful.
It's not a philosophy that everyone will agree with.
Obviously and I understand the theory and it's plausibility. However when you're in the loser's bracket you won't win the regional unless you win your next game and imo you have to rethink your strategy. Thinking you can beat Case Western without using your best was a gross miscalculation. But being perfectly honest I'd have to admit that I didn't think Case Western could beat them either. However when you fall behind 3-0 and it's apparent they're better than you thought and you still leave him on the bench ... well, I'm not sure what you can call that.
I don't want to rail on the Tommies' staff. I have a lot of respect for them and they've obviously been very, very successful. But they simply didn't give Case enough credit and in the end it was their down fall. When they finally went to the pitcher that gave them the best shot of winning it was way late and essentially meaningless. No offense Ricky but thinking you have nothing to explain is silly.
Why would I have anything to explain? I didn't make the decision. I didn't write that I agreed with the decision (although I may have done the same thing at the start). I wrote that my guess was that UST would try to save a rested Thomas for the next game.
I doubt it was a matter of St. Thomas underestimating Case more than it was a gamble to gain a later advantage.
I wouldn't have done it, I know quite a few programs that wouldn't have done it, but I think Olean has earned the right to make a decision without raked over the coals for it. Ultimately the only person that probably deserves an explanation is Thomas. I imagine Chris will spend enough time second guessing himself.
I like St. Thomas, I like the way they play the game and respect the game and I think they're the #2 program in the country. Doesn't make them perfect, or mean they always make the right decision. But you can bet whatever they do, they do because they're trying to compete at the highest level.
The bottom line is the best team doesn't always win and this year was probably a prime example. I look back just a few years ago with point losing when Williams and Delorit were seniors. Sometimes you just hit piss rods right at people that's what makes baseball great.
There is no doubt that he underestimated Case! Not throwing Thomas was a play that had to be done to win this tournament, the HUGE error was thinking that he could get by them using Franz when he had far better bullets left in the gun. Sad days the past few in Tommie land. To say Dennis wouldn't have done it that way is fair because this isn't the same program that Coach Denning built. It's about having a philosophy of bringing in a ton of good players and letting it sort itself almost like a junior college. Very little teaching and a lot of recruiting. When they start putting it all together watch out it could be the making of a lot of trips to Appleton in a row. For now the Tommie's missed a great opportunity be in the hunt for a title. Things need to change or this will be a common theme and recruits will be going elsewhere.
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on May 18, 2013, 11:37:56 AM
Why would I have anything to explain? I didn't make the decision. I didn't write that I agreed with the decision (although I may have done the same thing at the start). I wrote that my guess was that UST would try to save a rested Thomas for the next game.
I doubt it was a matter of St. Thomas underestimating Case more than it was a gamble to gain a later advantage.
My bad I didn't take your statement to mean that you, personally, had anything to explain.
I just want to give a shout-out to the UW-Stevens Point baseball fans at UWW's Miller Stadium. Even though UWW was dispatched from the tourney I was at today's UWSP vs. Case Western championship game. Even though I was down following yesterday's UWW loss listening to the genuine enthusiasm, especially the group of Pointer ladies sitting right behind me, made the afternoon extremely enjoyable for this loyal Whitewater fan. Also thanks to the UWSP fans who assisted me in navigating the steps as I remain a bit weak following seven months of chemo-therapy.
Here's wishing Point and it's fans the best of luck next weekend in Appleton!!
Quote from: username on May 17, 2013, 07:05:02 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on May 17, 2013, 06:58:01 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 17, 2013, 06:50:46 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on May 17, 2013, 04:13:57 PM
Twitter says Franz is starting for UST today. That was my guess too. The idea isn't to get to the next game. The idea is to win the regional. The best chance St. Thomas has of winning the regional is with Thomas facing Stevens Point. I'm assuming Thomas would be first out of the pen should Case run out front.
That didn't work out too well for the Tommies. Case 7 UST 3
Now you explain how you get eliminated and you used your All American 1 meaningless inning. Ouch
Nothing to explain. It's a matter of mapping a strategy to win it. Doesn't matter if you lost today or tomorrow. I think UST's strategy was plausible. UST's execution of the strategy wasn't successful.
It's not a philosophy that everyone will agree with.
I doubt Dennis Denning would have done that.
Actually, I think Dennis would have done it (where do you think Olean learned a lot of his strategy?)
Its not an uncommon (or dumb) strategy. Darren Erstad (former LA Angel) used the same strategy in this weekend's Big 10(12) tourney and his Nebraska Conrhuskers nearly pulled it off as they advanced to the championship game and forced a "winner takes all" game vs Indiana before falling.
Quote from: miacmaniac on May 26, 2013, 06:06:57 PM
Quote from: username on May 17, 2013, 07:05:02 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on May 17, 2013, 06:58:01 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 17, 2013, 06:50:46 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on May 17, 2013, 04:13:57 PM
Twitter says Franz is starting for UST today. That was my guess too. The idea isn't to get to the next game. The idea is to win the regional. The best chance St. Thomas has of winning the regional is with Thomas facing Stevens Point. I'm assuming Thomas would be first out of the pen should Case run out front.
That didn't work out too well for the Tommies. Case 7 UST 3
Now you explain how you get eliminated and you used your All American 1 meaningless inning. Ouch
Nothing to explain. It's a matter of mapping a strategy to win it. Doesn't matter if you lost today or tomorrow. I think UST's strategy was plausible. UST's execution of the strategy wasn't successful.
It's not a philosophy that everyone will agree with.
I doubt Dennis Denning would have done that.
Actually, I think Dennis would have done it (where do you think Olean learned a lot of his strategy?)
Its not an uncommon (or dumb) strategy. Darren Erstad (former LA Angel) used the same strategy in this weekend's Big 10(12) tourney and his Nebraska Conrhuskers nearly pulled it off as they advanced to the championship game and forced a "winner takes all" game vs Indiana before falling.
Dennis probably wouldn't have been eliminated from an NCAA tournament with the Midwest Region Pitcher of the Year pitching one inning in the tournament...unless there was an injury.