FB: Region 6 fan poll

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02 Warhawk

 
1)  UW-Whitewater (5)      75      ( 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 4)
2)  UW-Oshkosh             70      ( 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3)
3)  St. Thomas (3)         69      ( 1, 1, 1, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4)
4)  Linfield               54      ( 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 6)
5)  St. John's             43      ( 4, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6, 6, 8)
6)  UW-Platteville         40      ( 4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 7, 7, -)
7)  Coe                    35      ( 6, 6, 6, 6, 7, 7, 7, 8)
8)  Monmouth               24      ( 7, 7, 8, 8, 8, 8, 9, 9)
9)  Concordia-Moorhead     17      ( 7, 8, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, -)
10) Redlands                6      ( 8,10,10,10, -, -, -, -)

RV) Central                 2      ( 9, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)
RV) UW-Stevens Point        2      (10,10, -, -, -, -, -, -)
RV) Whitworth               1      (10, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)
RV) Dubuque                 1      (10, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)
RV) Northwestern            1      (10, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)

Andy Jamison - Walla Walla Wildcat

Is Coe correctly ranked?  Seems some years the top team from their conference is really good and other years not so much. 

Does Monmouth deserve its ranking? Should they be higher given how they have dominated their competition this season except for a close game vs Wartburg?

I'm not sure the gap between Linfield and St Thomas is as big now as it was 2-3 weeks ago.  The Cats seem to have gotten things fixed while St Thomas doesn't seem to be nearly as dominant as last year (but I have only watched their one game vs St. Johns).

Not sure why anyone would rank UWW #4 given what they have done on the field this year in beating so many outstanding teams..

02 Warhawk

#362
All good questions. I ranked Monmouth (7) ahead of Coe (8) in my poll. I've been high on Monmouth since the beginning of the year. I've had them in my top 10 each week since the Preseason poll.

Regarding UWW, I was one of the three that bumped St. Thomas ahead of UWW after last week. UWW is extremely banged up now, and it's beginning to show on the field (it took OT to get a win at home against UWRF). Because of some injuries, I don't think they're the same team that beat those good teams earlier in the year. That's why I dropped them down one place to #2.

Since the close call at Concordia-Moorhead, St. Thomas seems to have their act together as they've destroyed their competition the last three weeks. I expect another blowout against St. Olaf tomorrow. It appears the Tommies will finish the regular season undefeated in the 2nd best conference in the nation (and looking good doing it down the stretch).

Linfield has been playing better too, but the NWC seems down this season. I think D3football has the NWC ranked 7th, when they're usually ranked 3rd or 4th in the previous rankings. Plus that blowout loss against MHB still looms in people's minds.

My Top 5:
1. St. Thomas - Undefeated in a very strong conference, and picking up steam at the right time.
2. UWW - Great wins early on, but injuries might be catching up to them.
3. UWO - Has a good chance of beating UWW if they played now. But that's just hypothetical, truth is they already lost to them.
4. Linfield - I guess the playoffs will tell us if they can compete against a top tiered team. Redemption!?!?!
5. UWP - A very good team that has two close losses to UWW and UWO, and has blown out everyone else in the #1 conference.

Rest of my poll:
6. St. John's
7. Monmouth
8. Coe
9. Concordia-Moorhead
10. Redlands

You can make a strong argument for the Johnnies as #5 and UWP #6. That's almost a toss up to me.

02 Warhawk

#363
     2016 Final Regular Season West Fan Poll

Rank      Team           Previous     Points   
1)   UW-Whitewater (7)      1          79     
2)   UW-Oshkosh             2          69   
3)   St. Thomas (1)         3          68   
4)   Linfield               4          48     
5)   St. John's             5          47     
6)   UW-Platteville         6          46   
7)   Coe                    7          32     
8)   Monmouth               8          27     
9)   Redlands              10          13   
10)  Central               N/A          5

Dropped Out: Concordia-Moorhead

RV)  Concordia-Moorhead (3), Whitworth (2), Northwestern (1)


Thanks to those for participating: art76, doolittledog, Walla Walla Wildcat, desertcat1, HansenRatings, TwoArmedScott, wartnight and 02 Warhawk

02 Warhawk

 
1)  UW-Whitewater (7)      79      ( 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2)
2)  UW-Oshkosh             69      ( 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3)
3)  St. Thomas (1)         68      ( 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3)
4)  Linfield               48      ( 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 6, 7)
5)  St. John's             47      ( 4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6, 6)
6)  UW-Platteville         46      ( 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 6, 6, 8)
7)  Coe                    32      ( 6, 6, 7, 7, 7, 7, 8, 8)
8)  Monmouth               27      ( 7, 7, 7, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8)
9)  Redlands               13      ( 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9,10, -)
10) Central                 5      ( 9, 9,10, -, -, -, -, -)

RV) Concordia-Moorhead      3      (10,10,10, -, -, -, -, -)
RV) Whitworth               2      (10,10, -, -, -, -, -, -)
RV) Northwestern            1      (10, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)

02 Warhawk

#365
   2017 Preseaon West Fan Poll

Rank      Team                Points   
1t)  UW-Whitewater (3)         81     
1t)  St. Thomas (3)            81   
3)   UW-Oshkosh (3)            79   
4)   Linfield                  58     
5)   St. John's                55     
6)   UW-Platteville            41   
7)   Redlands                  24     
8)   Whitworth                 17     
9)   Monmouth                  14   
10)  Coe                       13

RV)  Concordia-Moorhead (10), Wartburg (7), Dubuque (6), UW-Stevens Point (3), Lake Forest (2), Central (1), UW-Lacrosse (1), St. Norbert (1), Northwestern (1)


Thanks to those who participated this week: art76, wartnight, wm4, astro9046, doolittledog, desercat1, HansenRatings, TwoArmedScot and 02 Warhawk. I didn't receive a poll from one other person who said he'll participate (I'll factor it in if I receive it).

Thanks!

02 Warhawk

#366
 
1t) UW-Whitewater (3)     81      ( 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3)
1t) St. Thomas (3)        81      ( 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3)
3)  UW-Oshkosh (3)        79      ( 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4)
4)  Linfield              58      ( 3, 4, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 6, 6)
5)  St. John's            55      ( 4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 6)
6)  UW-Platteville        41      ( 3, 4, 5, 6, 6, 6, 6, -, -)
7)  Redlands              24      ( 6, 7, 7, 8, 8, 9, 9,10, -)
8)  Whitworth             17      ( 7, 7, 8, 8, 8, -, -, -, -)
9)  Monmouth              14      ( 7, 8, 8, 9,10,10, -, -, -)
10) Coe                   13      ( 7, 7, 8, 9, -, -, -, -, -)

RV) Concordia-Moorhead    10      ( 7, 9, 9, 9, -, -, -, -, -)
RV) Wartburg               7      ( 6, 9, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)
RV) Dubuque                6      ( 7,10,10, -, -, -, -, -, -)
RV) UW-Stevens Point       3      ( 8, -, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)
RV) Lake Forest            2      ( 9, -, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)
RV) Central                1      (10, -, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)
RV) UW-Lacrosse            1      (10, -, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)
RV) Northwestern           1      (10, -, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)
RV) St. Norbert            1      (10, -, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)

wartknight

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on August 29, 2017, 02:26:50 PM
   2017 Preseaon West Fan Poll

Rank      Team                Points   
1)   St. Thomas (3)            64     
2)   UW-Whitewater (2)         63   
3)   UW-Oshkosh (2)            60   
4)   Linfield                  46     
5)   St. John's                43     
6)   UW-Platteville            29   
7)   Redlands                  20     
8)   Whitworth                 14     
9)   Monmouth                  13   
10)  Wartburg                   7

RV)  Coe (6), Concordia-Moorhead (6), Dubuque (5), UW-Stevens Point (3), Lake Forest (2), Central (1), UW-Lacrosse (1), St. Norbert (1), Northwestern (1)


Thanks to those who participated this week: wm4, astro9046, doolittledog, desercat1, HansenRatings, TwoArmedScot and 02 Warhawk. I didn't receive polls from three people who said they are participating this year (I'll factor them in if I receive them in the next day or two).

Thanks!
02-Not sure what happened to my ballot (shows as sent to you). I will resend
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02 Warhawk

Quote from: wartknight on August 29, 2017, 10:07:44 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on August 29, 2017, 02:26:50 PM
   2017 Preseaon West Fan Poll

Rank      Team                Points   
1)   St. Thomas (3)            64     
2)   UW-Whitewater (2)         63   
3)   UW-Oshkosh (2)            60   
4)   Linfield                  46     
5)   St. John's                43     
6)   UW-Platteville            29   
7)   Redlands                  20     
8)   Whitworth                 14     
9)   Monmouth                  13   
10)  Wartburg                   7

RV)  Coe (6), Concordia-Moorhead (6), Dubuque (5), UW-Stevens Point (3), Lake Forest (2), Central (1), UW-Lacrosse (1), St. Norbert (1), Northwestern (1)


Thanks to those who participated this week: wm4, astro9046, doolittledog, desercat1, HansenRatings, TwoArmedScot and 02 Warhawk. I didn't receive polls from three people who said they are participating this year (I'll factor them in if I receive them in the next day or two).

Thanks!
02-Not sure what happened to my ballot (shows as sent to you). I will resend

Sorry, I see it now. I guess it's preseason for all of us  :-[

I went ahead and updated the two tables above. Sorry about that.

02 Warhawk

   2017 Preseaon West Fan Poll

Rank      Team                Points   
1t)  UW-Whitewater (3)         81     
1t)  St. Thomas (3)            81   
3)   UW-Oshkosh (3)            79   
4)   Linfield                  58     
5)   St. John's                55     
6)   UW-Platteville            41   
7)   Redlands                  24     
8)   Whitworth                 17     
9)   Monmouth                  14   
10)  Coe                       13

RV)  Concordia-Moorhead (10), Wartburg (7), Dubuque (6), UW-Stevens Point (3), Lake Forest (2), Central (1), UW-Lacrosse (1), St. Norbert (1), Northwestern (1)


Just received a late entry which made this poll real interesting. Looks like there's little doubt on who we - collectively - think the top 3 teams are. However, we're split equally on who we think deserves that top spot.

HansenRatings

I would like to hear the argument for UWO being first. Yes, they made the Stagg Bowl, but they never avenged their loss to UWW, and the strength of their team (Defense, specifically the secondary) only returns one starter. Hard to justify them ahead of UST (UWO was +8 in turnover margin against UST last season, and only won by 3) or UWW (who returns twice as many starters, and beat UWO in their only matchup last year) to me.
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jamtod

I suppose it's the same justification that has so many people putting UMHB in the #1 spot this year.


Quote from: HansenRatings on August 31, 2017, 12:09:03 PM
I would like to hear the argument for UWO being first. Yes, they made the Stagg Bowl, but they never avenged their loss to UWW, and the strength of their team (Defense, specifically the secondary) only returns one starter. Hard to justify them ahead of UST (UWO was +8 in turnover margin against UST last season, and only won by 3) or UWW (who returns twice as many starters, and beat UWO in their only matchup last year) to me.

02 Warhawk

#372
I have my top 3 at:
1. St. Thomas - A lot of talent returning from last season. Not including maybe the best back in DIII (Roberts) who didn't play last year.
2. UWW - Bringing back a decent amount as well, but I have some concerns (especially on offense).
3. UWO - Losing 10 on defense is really tough, but still worthy of being #3 because they bring a ton back on offense.

02 Warhawk

My biggest surprise was seeing UWP ranked as high as #3, then having two people leave them off their poll entirely. I'm not saying one is right and the other is wrong...but it's interesting to see that big of a disparity.

02 Warhawk

#374
   2017 Week 1 West Fan Poll

Rank      Team          Previous     Points   
1)   St. Thomas (3)       t1          84     
2)   UW-Oshkosh (5)        3          81   
3)   St. John's            5          65   
4)   Linfield              4          53     
5)   UW-Platteville        6          47     
6)   UW-Whitewater        t1          45   
7)   Whitworth             8          39     
8)   Redlands              7          21     
9)   Coe (1)              10          15   
10)  Monmouth              9          12

Dropped Out: N/A

RV)  Concordia-Moorhead (11), Dubuque (11), Wartburg (5), Lake Forest (5), UW-Lacrosse (1)


Thanks to those who participated this week: art76, wartnight, wm4, astro9046, doolittledog, desercat1, HansenRatings, TwoArmedScot and 02 Warhawk.