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Quote from: MANDGSU on October 10, 2018, 11:03:37 AM
Quote from: ADL70 on October 10, 2018, 10:04:07 AM
Quote from: Bob.Gregg on October 06, 2018, 07:52:42 PM
WOW---this conference's wheels just fell off the bus, rolled up the hill and came back down, smashing through the windshield!!!!

St. Vincent 35, Thiel 13.  No surprise at all.
Bethany 26, Geneva 20.  Fully expected that.

Then, you have:
Waynesburg 24, Carnegie-Mellon 21.  Really?
Grove City 36, Westminster 33.  Are you KIDDING me?

Some schools are just at the halfway mark of the year, and everybody left on W&J's schedule already has TWO conference losses.  That is NOT a good thing for the PAC, it is not a good thing for Case-Western.  The President can now afford, to use Coach Luckhardt's term, to trip over one dead body and only hurt their seeding, not their qualification....W&J has to beat three of Geneva (2-3), Westminster (3-3), St. Vincent (1-4) and Waynesburg (3-3) and the AQ is theirs...And that's the look with FIVE weeks left in the season....UNREAL!

Not sure it is bad for PAC.  Good for GC and Waynesburg!  What will hurt CWRU's Pool C chance and W&J's seeding are Rochester and Fisher.  In conference contribition to SoS hovers at around .500, but Rochester and Fisher will drag CWRU and W&J's SoS down.

I think the Pool A Qualifier is in good shape, since the PAC performed well in prior year. My concern is CWRU SOS, Rochester may not win another game this year. I believe St. John Fisher will have a two or 3 at seasons end. A one loss CWRU will be behind a one-loss Muhlenberg if Johns Hopkins win out and Centre (wins over a good Hanover team Maryville, which may win the USAC), the best bet is for Muhlenberg to win out and Centre take a 2nd loss, even then, you have the other regions to consider.

I'm not so sure Muhlenberg wins out.  In conference they still have JHU (on the road) and also a trip to Kentucky this week.  CWRU should root for two losses instead for Muhlenberg.
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Quote from: SaintsFAN on October 10, 2018, 11:34:48 AM
Quote from: MANDGSU on October 10, 2018, 11:03:37 AM
Quote from: ADL70 on October 10, 2018, 10:04:07 AM
Quote from: Bob.Gregg on October 06, 2018, 07:52:42 PM
WOW---this conference's wheels just fell off the bus, rolled up the hill and came back down, smashing through the windshield!!!!

St. Vincent 35, Thiel 13.  No surprise at all.
Bethany 26, Geneva 20.  Fully expected that.

Then, you have:
Waynesburg 24, Carnegie-Mellon 21.  Really?
Grove City 36, Westminster 33.  Are you KIDDING me?

Some schools are just at the halfway mark of the year, and everybody left on W&J's schedule already has TWO conference losses.  That is NOT a good thing for the PAC, it is not a good thing for Case-Western.  The President can now afford, to use Coach Luckhardt's term, to trip over one dead body and only hurt their seeding, not their qualification....W&J has to beat three of Geneva (2-3), Westminster (3-3), St. Vincent (1-4) and Waynesburg (3-3) and the AQ is theirs...And that's the look with FIVE weeks left in the season....UNREAL!

Not sure it is bad for PAC.  Good for GC and Waynesburg!  What will hurt CWRU's Pool C chance and W&J's seeding are Rochester and Fisher.  In conference contribition to SoS hovers at around .500, but Rochester and Fisher will drag CWRU and W&J's SoS down.

I think the Pool A Qualifier is in good shape, since the PAC performed well in prior year. My concern is CWRU SOS, Rochester may not win another game this year. I believe St. John Fisher will have a two or 3 at seasons end. A one loss CWRU will be behind a one-loss Muhlenberg if Johns Hopkins win out and Centre (wins over a good Hanover team Maryville, which may win the USAC), the best bet is for Muhlenberg to win out and Centre take a 2nd loss, even then, you have the other regions to consider.

I'm not so sure Muhlenberg wins out.  In conference they still have JHU (on the road) and also a trip to Kentucky this week.  CWRU should root for two losses instead for Muhlenberg.

You are right, that would put them higher in the RR and on the table earlier.

Pokerplayer

Just want to say that Case Western posters showed a lot of class in their comments following last Saturday's game. Glad to have you back in the PAC.

ADL70

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Quote from: Pokerplayer on October 11, 2018, 04:42:59 PM
Just want to say that Case Western posters showed a lot of class in their comments following last Saturday's game. Glad to have you back in on the PAC schedule.

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What A Game!  W&J scores in the last minute to beat Geneva 50-43!

WashJeff68

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W&J dominated the stats but had to make that last score to win. They did what they had to do against Bethany and Geneva, hope they can do the same next week against Westminster.  They can't play like this in the playoffs if they get there.
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E.115

#4657
The young CWRU team puts up some noteworthy individual stats today:

1) WR Colt Morgan
- 281 receiving yards (most by any player--and at any NCAA level--this year)
- 15 receptions (ties CWRU single game record)
- Had his 16th receiving TD this season (most in CWRU history)
2) DE Cameron Brown
- 4.5 sacks (most in a game for a Division III player this season)
3) LB Brian Victor
- 3 sacks
- 8 Tackles
4) QB Drew Saxton had 348 passing yards, 4 TDs, 0 INTs .... in 2.5 quarters! (2nd string QB in by middle of 3rd qtr)

I know the opponent was not a top member of the PAC, but national/school records being broken are definitely newsworthy.


Morgan Hits Multiple Receiving Records; #21 CWRU Tops Saint Vincent 37-7 on Homecoming

https://athletics.case.edu/sports/fball/2018-19/releases/20181013ow0woz

Mr. Ypsi

Not meaning any disrespect to Colt Morgan (congratulations on an all-divisions NCAA high for the year!), but it was probably only the second best performance by a WR today: SJU's Will Gillach had 256 yards against St. Thomas (a vastly tougher foe than St. Vincent).

ADL70

Gotta think that each would be a lock for Team of the Week.
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E.115

Nice numbers by CWRU yesterday. As you mentioned, St. Vincent is not a top team. I don't care if you put up those numbers against Sister Margaret's School for Wayward Boys. Those are great stats against anybody. Keep it going, Spartans! ☠🏈
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mustang

Was sorry to see the St. Vincent QB get injured. He looks to be a talented kid and hopefully it's not serious.

E.115

#4662
Quote from: mustang on October 14, 2018, 11:20:43 AM
Was sorry to see the St. Vincent QB get injured. He looks to be a talented kid and hopefully it's not serious.

Agreed. Hopefully he recovers quickly.  He looks like he'd going to be a great team leader.


Quote from: MUC57 on October 14, 2018, 06:32:40 AM

E.115

Nice numbers by CWRU yesterday. As you mentioned, St. Vincent is not a top team. I don't care if you put up those numbers against Sister Margaret's School for Wayward Boys. Those are great stats against anybody. Keep it going, Spartans! ☠🏈

Thanks MUC57.  And I agree.  It's impressive to put up those type of numbers no matter the competition (and I love your example :) ) Not to mention, there have been countless teams across all divisions playing in various disparities of competition...and I bet CWRU vs St. Vincent isn't anywhere near the biggest margin of talent difference.


Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on October 14, 2018, 12:10:50 AM
Not meaning any disrespect to Colt Morgan (congratulations on an all-divisions NCAA high for the year!), but it was probably only the second best performance by a WR today: SJU's Will Gillach had 256 yards against St. Thomas (a vastly tougher foe than St. Vincent).

I don't think Morgan would feel any disrespect if Gillach is picked over him for any weekly awards.  St. T is certainly a top defensive power compared to St. V.

Although one more thing to note for Colt Morgan -- he played only three quarters, as the first team was pulled during the third quarter.

Mindboggling to realize he averaged 100 yards and 1 touchdown PER QUARTER!! (Ironically, he literally had 200 yards and 2 TDs at halftime)

ADL70

Good news there are two WRs on Team of the Week.
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Quote from: ADL70 on October 15, 2018, 01:52:46 PM
Good news there are two WRs on Team of the Week.

don't jinx it -- I really hope he's on it. 

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Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2