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Division III football (Post Patterns) => General football => Topic started by: Rev. Kelly James Leary on September 03, 2009, 04:05:50 PM

Title: New game to replace Aztec Bowl
Post by: Rev. Kelly James Leary on September 03, 2009, 04:05:50 PM
I was so excited only to find it is still in Mexico --

gosh I hope one day a north/south type game can be put togther

same week as Stagg bowl --  thursday night lets say

big draw for the community - boost attendance at the championship game
no passport needed
no 1500 needed to "be honored"

I'll keep my mouth shut about the NCAA  >:(

sheesssh!!!!

gosh I think Im gonna email the chamber of commerce in Salem

Title: Re: New game to replace Aztec Bowl
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 04, 2009, 01:37:42 AM
There's a group that wants to put that together but the NCAA frowns on use of the stadium so close to the Stagg Bowl.
Title: Re: New game to replace Aztec Bowl
Post by: K-Mack on September 04, 2009, 09:46:25 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 04, 2009, 01:37:42 AM
There's a group that wants to put that together but the NCAA frowns on use of the stadium so close to the Stagg Bowl.

That argument made more sense before they switched to turf.

I know there's always much more to these things than meets the eye, but it would definitely be nice to have some of D3s best players be around when the Gagliardi Trophy winner accepts, etc. ... And I think the exposure to the Stagg Bowl, which most first-timers tend to enjoy, would benefit the event in the long run.
Title: Re: New game to replace Aztec Bowl
Post by: PurpleSuit on September 06, 2009, 01:05:14 AM
the week of the Stagg Bowl would be tough as many schools are having final exams that week. 
Title: Re: New game to replace Aztec Bowl
Post by: Teamski on September 07, 2009, 02:28:02 PM
I COMPLETLEY agree with having a North/South bowl for DIII.  It would not only allow more DIII players to get the opportunity to play in such a game with two complete teams, but it would also help in scouts comparing abilities.  The current system with the Atzec bowl makes those comparisons tough with unknown players on the opposite side of the ball.  Heck, you might even save some serious $$$$ on travel expenses.   No doubt, it should be held after the Stagg bowl.

-Ski
Title: Re: New game to replace Aztec Bowl
Post by: D O.C. on September 15, 2009, 01:01:42 AM
Has it been stated how the North-South would be broken up?
I'm always for an East-West game.
In the old NFL showcase games the East-West game was always more enjoyable to me than the Blue-Gray game.
Title: Re: New game to replace Aztec Bowl
Post by: Teamski on September 15, 2009, 09:59:27 AM
Quote from: D O.C. on September 15, 2009, 01:01:42 AM
Has it been stated how the North-South would be broken up?
I'm always for an East-West game.
In the old NFL showcase games the East-West game was always more enjoyable to me than the Blue-Gray game.

That is where the problem is.  Where do you split East vs West?  The distribution of teams in DIII is very heavily Eastern based, so an East vs West game would be unbalanced.  North/South is definately the better way to go.

-Ski
Title: Re: New game to replace Aztec Bowl
Post by: AUPepBand on September 15, 2009, 11:13:26 AM
How about the South/West versus the North/East?

Or perhaps the South/East against the North/West?

Or hey, alternating years, you could even have the North/South versus East/West!

Anyway, All-Stars would be selected from among the teams in the respective NCAA designated regions.
Title: Re: New game to replace Aztec Bowl
Post by: frank uible on September 15, 2009, 11:47:08 AM
North-South works if you draw the horizontal line through Cuyahoga Heights.
Title: Re: New game to replace Aztec Bowl
Post by: D O.C. on September 15, 2009, 01:09:05 PM
OK, mix it up. NS vs EW then SW vs NE. Sounds like fantasy football though.

QuoteThe distribution of teams in DIII is very heavily Eastern based, so an East vs West game would be unbalanced.

Au contraire, as of late the best teams are in the West except for that juggernaut on the Mount. But it would not be about teams, would it?
Title: Re: New game to replace Aztec Bowl
Post by: reality check on September 20, 2009, 07:41:24 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on September 15, 2009, 01:09:05 PM
OK, mix it up. NS vs EW then SW vs NE. Sounds like fantasy football though.

QuoteThe distribution of teams in DIII is very heavily Eastern based, so an East vs West game would be unbalanced.

Au contraire, as of late the best teams are in the West except for that juggernaut on the Mount. But it would not be about teams, would it?

He wasn't talking about "best".  He was talking about distribution and pure numbers.  If you drew a line down the geographic center of the US, you'd probably have 75% in the east and 25% in the west (maybe even more slanted).

The "best" argument is another topic altogether. 
Title: Re: New game to replace Aztec Bowl
Post by: Ron Boerger on September 28, 2009, 03:08:16 PM
Someone has come up with an 'all-"star"' game to be held in Salem, but it's a couple of weeks before the Stagg and players have to pay their own ways, etc etc. 

Part of a discussion on the American Southwest Conference board:

Quote from: Ron Boerger on September 28, 2009, 10:59:34 AM
Quote from: crufootball on September 28, 2009, 10:44:10 AM
Does anybody know anythign about the D3 Football Senior Classic?

http://www.d3seniorclassic.com/

I stumbled across it and had not heard about it? I assume its like the Atzec Bowl but in America but not sure.

I haven't heard anything either, but from browsing the web site it looks like another "if you want to pay your own way we'll be happy to call you an all-star" game.  They're sending letters out to 400 kids (based on what criteria, it's unclear) trying to get 90 to sign up.

Players are required to pay their own way there (including travel and hotel), send a $325 "player participation fee", and are responsible for getting at least another $250 in "sponsorship" for a profile page in the program.