New England Soccer Discussion

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blooter442

After a nice stretch with two monster non-conference wins against NESCAC teams Tufts and Conn., Babson falls 2-0 tonight to Eastern Conn. Since winning there in 2013 the Beavers have struggled in Willimantic, losing all three. The Warriors are quietly 14-2 and still seemingly the favorites in the LEC.

ECSUalum


Mr.Right

Quote from: ECSUalum on October 23, 2019, 08:17:46 AM
Here is the recap of last night's Eastern 2-0 win over Babson:
https://gowarriorathletics.com/sports/msoc/2019-20/releases/20191022wsi1o5


Congrats ECSU.....That is a monster WIN for Econn and with one of the best strikers in New England(he had a goal last night) they can beat anyone on any given day...I will day I was disappointed in RIC's effort at CC yesterday and even Wconn should have beaten Trinity but the stats for RIC were UGLY against Conn. RIC sometimes will just throw in the towel but they had been playing well along with Econn, Wconn and Keene

ECSUalum

Thanks Mr Right,
ECSU really took the game to Babson in the first half, and was lucky they got a couple of goals early. Pat Agyemang is truely a unique stricker.   Second half the Warriors always retreat into their clam shell and defend against the onslaught of Babson offense.  ie the 14-1 corner kick differential.

Mr.Right

Quote from: ECSUalum on October 23, 2019, 03:13:08 PM
Thanks Mr Right,
ECSU really took the game to Babson in the first half, and was lucky they got a couple of goals early. Pat Agyemang is truely a unique stricker.   Second half the Warriors always retreat into their clam shell and defend against the onslaught of Babson offense.  ie the 14-1 corner kick differential.


Yea really shocked ECSU was not ranked this week in the RR BUT that Babson Win should get them in there...

Christan Shirk

NEW ENGLAND REGION - NCAA REGIONAL RANKINGS - October 23, 2019

Rank

School
. Div. III .
Record
. Div. III .
SOS

 . R-v-R .
. Overall .
Record
. Prev. .
Rank
1.
Amherst
11-0-2
0.614
--
11-0-2
--
2.
Tufts
9-2-2
0.605
--
9-2-2
--
3.
Middlebury
7-1-5
0.602
--
7-1-5
--
4.
Connecticut College
7-3-2
0.616
--
7-3-2
--
5.
Brandeis
8-3-4
0.601
--
8-3-4
--
6.
WPI
8-2-4
0.576
--
8-2-4
--
7.
Babson
9-4-2
0.553
--
9-4-2
--
8.
Keene State
10-5-0
0.572
--
10-5-0
--
9.
Williams
5-3-4
0.585
--
5-3-4
--
10.
Bates
8-4-1
0.556
--
8-4-1
--
11.
Hamilton
6-5-2
0.639
--
6-5-2
--
12.
MIT
7-2-5
0.542
--
7-2-5
--
Christan Shirk
Special Consultant and Advisor
D3soccer.com

Off Pitch

Random observations on the 10/23 Regional Rankings:

* Middlebury is currently in 5th place in the NESCAC, but they are #3 in all of New England

* Keene St has the same winning % as Babson (0.667) and a stronger schedule, yet they are ranked behind the Beavers

* Babson's SOS of .553 in the Reg. Rankings is baffling.  They have played the teams ranked 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 9, and 12, yet they only have the 13th toughest schedule in New England?

* Rankings reward the strongest SOS and punish those with below average SOS - the following teams all have winning % over 0.750 but were not ranked presumably due to SOS below .500 (St. Joes 12-0-2, ECSU 13-2, Eastern Nazarene 13-1, Johnson & Wales 13-2, Maine Maritime 9-2-1, Norwich 10-3-1, Pine Manor 9-2-2, UMass-Boston 10-2-2)

* Endicott, Clark and Roger Williams must be the next three teams in the rankings given their records and SOS over .500

TyWebb

Quote from: Off Pitch on October 24, 2019, 06:06:58 PM
Random observations on the 10/23 Regional Rankings:

* Middlebury is currently in 5th place in the NESCAC, but they are #3 in all of New England

* Keene St has the same winning % as Babson (0.667) and a stronger schedule, yet they are ranked behind the Beavers

* Babson's SOS of .553 in the Reg. Rankings is baffling.  They have played the teams ranked 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 9, and 12, yet they only have the 13th toughest schedule in New England?

* Rankings reward the strongest SOS and punish those with below average SOS - the following teams all have winning % over 0.750 but were not ranked presumably due to SOS below .500 (St. Joes 12-0-2, ECSU 13-2, Eastern Nazarene 13-1, Johnson & Wales 13-2, Maine Maritime 9-2-1, Norwich 10-3-1, Pine Manor 9-2-2, UMass-Boston 10-2-2)

* Endicott, Clark and Roger Williams must be the next three teams in the rankings given their records and SOS over .500

Off Pitch, I agree when I saw Babson's SOS of .553, it was baffling. I expected it to be much higher based on the ranked teams they had played. After a quick glance at their schedule, I think it's due to the combined record of Southern Maine, Regis, Springfield & Emerson who are 10-44-6 with a winning percentage of .216 (if I did my math correctly). While I know the formula for SOS is a combination of both OWP (Opponents winning percentage) & OOWP (Opponents opponents winning percentage), I'm guessing those four teams are dragging down Babson's SOS. Fortunately for the Beavers they got some marquee wins if they end up in Pool C.

I agree teams are being punished by low SOS's and maybe rightfully so, but on the flip side the rankings are favoring Hamilton (currently #11) way too much for their strong SOS. You need to actually win some of those games against top teams, not just play them. Their best win is against Colby (#77 in the Massey rankings). 

ECSUalum

I had mentioned ECSU's poor SOS in a previous post and understand why they are not ranked.  I think Coach De Vito should have scheduled some much better teams this year which would have served the team much better IMHO!  The likes of Medgar Evers , Mitchell, and St Joe's LI  should be replaced with NESCAC or NEWMAC teams in the future.  You don't get better playing pushovers.

Off Pitch

Projected 10/30 Regional Rankings

1.  Amherst
2.  Tufts
3.  Middlebury
4.  Conn
5.  WPI
6.  Brandeis
7.  Williams
8.  ECSU
9.  Babson
10. Keene St.
11. St Josephs
12. Endicott

Christan Shirk

NEW ENGLAND REGION - NCAA REGIONAL RANKINGS - October 30, 2019

Rank

School
. Div. III .
Record
. Div. III .
SOS

 . R-v-R .
. Overall .
Record
. Prev. .
Rank
1.
Amherst
12-0-2
0.608
5-0-2
12-0-2
1
2.
Tufts
10-2-2
0.611
6-2-1
10-2-2
2
3.
Connecticut College
9-3-2
0.606
2-3-2
9-3-2
4
4.
Middlebury
7-2-5
0.609
2-2-2
7-2-5
3
5.
Brandeis
9-3-4
0.585
2-3-1
9-3-4
5
6.
Williams
7-3-4
0.577
4-3-1
7-3-4
9
7.
Babson
10-5-2
0.570
2-3-2
10-5-2
7
8.
WPI
10-2-4
0.577
0-0-4
10-2-4
6
9.
Bates
8-5-1
0.567
2-4-0
8-5-1
10
10.
Keene State
12-5-0
0.564
0-2-0
12-5-0
8
11.
Endicott
9-5-2
0.553
1-2-0
9-5-2
--
12.
Eastern Connecticut
14-2-0
0.494
3-1-0
14-2-0
--
Christan Shirk
Special Consultant and Advisor
D3soccer.com

Off Pitch

#1796
projected 11/6 Regional Rankings

1.  Amherst
2.  Tufts
3.  Conn
4.  WPI
5.  Middlebury
6.  Williams
7.  ECSU
8.  Brandeis
9.  Babson
10. Keene St
11. St. Josephs
12. Bates

Last 2 out:  Endicott, Wheaton

Notes:
- WPI and Williams each have 9 game unbeaten streaks
- Middlebury might slide to #6 as they have won only 2 of their last 9 games (2-2-5)
- ECSU may drop out of the rankings due to their sub-.500 SOS falling even farther below .500 after playing Plymouth St (1-11-3)
- Babson has played 7 of the top 8 ranked teams (2-4-1)

OldNed

Quote from: Off Pitch on November 05, 2019, 09:28:56 PM
projected 11/6 Regional Rankings

1.  Amherst
2.  Tufts
3.  Conn
4.  WPI
5.  Middlebury
6.  Williams
7.  ECSU
8.  Brandeis
9.  Babson
10. Keene St
11. St. Josephs
12. Bates

Last 2 out:  Endicott, Wheaton

Notes:
- WPI and Williams each have 9 game unbeaten streaks
- Middlebury might slide to #6 as they have won only 2 of their last 9 games (2-2-5)
- ECSU may drop out of the rankings due to their sub-.500 SOS falling even farther below .500 after playing Plymouth St (1-11-3)
- Babson has played 7 of the top 8 ranked teams (2-4-1)

Good job on these projections, Off Pitch.  I've got no issues with the top of your rankings, although maybe WPI is perhaps a spot or two  too high.  I think St. Joe's doesn't have a good enough SOS to make it into the rankings, and I'd put Endicott in there instead of St. Joe's, much as it pains me to say that as a St. Joe's homer.  If St. Joe's wins out in the GNAC tournament maybe they sneak into the last Regional rankings, but at that point it won't much matter if they win the automatic qualifier.  I had high hopes for St. Joe's early in the year, but they're frankly not as good as they were last year and I don't see them making any noise in the NCAAs if they make it in. St. Joe's needs to play Norwich, whom they tied earlier in the year, and then if they win they'd presumably play Johnson & Wales and they tied J&W, too. 

I'd love to see some of the other New England teams outside of the NESCAC do well in the tournament, and that's not a knock on the NESCAC.  I know how good the top tier of the NESCAC is and even below that if other NESCAC teams get into the tourney, they have the ability to get a win or two also. 

Middlebury Dad

I get that Middlebury has not won many recently, but they also have only lost 2 all year.  They will have played everyone ranked above them with the following results:
1-1 @ Amherst
1-2 (OT) @ Tufts
2-1 (OT) Conn
0-0 (4-3 PKs) @ Conn
0-0 WPI

That is a total of five games against the top squads in New England and only 1 loss.

By comparison, Amherst has tied Midd and Conn and defeated Tufts.
Tufts has lost to Amherst and defeated Conn and Midd.
Conn has tied Amherst, lost to Midd, lost to Tufts, and tied Midd (lost on PKs)
WPI has tied Midd.

d4_Pace

I think it would be ridiculous if middlbury gets into the tournament with 7 games. The point of sports is to win but they have played to not lose all year. If you win less than half your games you have no argument if things don't go your way. This team is certainly one of the top 5 most talented teams in New England but they chose to play the most negative soccer in the region and the record is the consequence. I hope they get punished for it and have to adjust moving forward.