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Ralph Turner

Quote from: algernon on February 24, 2013, 10:49:13 AM
You're right, Titan Q.  A revision:

   Team                       RegWL   Overall     RegRkOppo.
1 Virginia Wesleyan     18-5    21-6           8-3
2 Mary Hardin-Baylor     23-4    23-4         3-2
3 Emory                          19-6    19-6       5-4
4 Hampden-Sydney     19-4    23-4           4-2
6 Concordia (Texas)       20-4    22-5         3-2
5 Christopher Newport   20-5    21-5         0-2
7 Texas-Dallas                20-7    20-7        0-4
8 Randolph                   15-6    21-6         2-4

Mary Hardin-Baylor v Concordia AND VWC v R-MC are games with big implications for the rankings.

An R-MC win would not only give them the ODAC AQ with a 18-9 record (19-9 overall), but might result in their entering the rankings at #7 or #8, which would affect RegRkOppo for VWC and HSC.  Randolph-Macon would be 7-8 against regionally ranked opponents.
I agree.

I can make the case for someone to knock Randolph out of the #8 slot.  Does RMC or does the Centre/BSC winner make the better case for #8?

Titan Q

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Updated SOS included from KnightSlappy - http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/p/2010-2011-d3-mens-regional-rankings.html

In-region record, SOS, and results vs regionally ranked are all through Saturday 2/23 now.  Sunday losses by Williams and Springfield now included.


Pool C projection
1. UW-Stevens Point (West, WIAC) - 21-5 (.808)/.585/7-2 
2. Rochester (East, UAA) - 20-4 (.833)/.575/7-3   
3. Williams (Northeast, NESCAC) - 21-4 (.840)/.566/5-4
4. Middlebury (Northeast, NESCAC) - 19-3 (.864)/.545/2-3
5. Wooster (Great Lakes, NCAC) -22-5 (.815)/.557/3-2
6. Illinois Wesleyan (Midwest, CCIW) - 18-5 (.783)/.556/5-4 
7. MIT (Northeast, NEWMAC) - 19-5 (.792)/.555/4-4
8. Wheaton (Midwest, CCIW) - 17-6 (.739)/.566/4-4
9. Emory (South, UAA) - 19-6 (.760)/.556/5-4
10. Hampden-Sydney (South, ODAC) - 19-4 (.826)/.512/6-3*
11. Wesley (Mid-Atlantic, CAC) - 17-4 (.810)/.530/5-3
12. Albright (Mid-Atlantic, MACC) - 20-6 (.769)/.546/3-1
13. Plattsburgh State (East, SUNYAC) - 19-7 (.731)/.559/5-5
14. Transylvania (Midwest, HCAC) - 19-6 (.760)/.548/4-1* 
15. Concordia-Tx (South, ASC) - 20-4 (.833)/.529/3-2  vs Mary Hardin-Baylor, 3:00pm
16. Springfield (Northeast, NEWMAC) - 19-8 (.704)/.563/4-6
17. Randolph-Macon* (South, ODAC) - 16-9 (.640)/.576/7-8  vs Virginia Wesleyan, 3:30pm
18. Stevens (East, E8) - 20-5 (.800)/.533/3-3 
19. SUNY-Old Westbury (Atlantic, Sky) - 21-3 (.875)/.500/2-1
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Left at the table...
(NE) Brandeis (UAA) - 17-8 (.680)/.569/4-7 
(GL) Thomas More (PrAC) - 22-4 (.846)/.512/1-3 
(AT) Rutgers-Newark (NJAC) - 19-7 (.731)/.548/3-4
(MW) Augustana (CCIW) - 18-8 (.692)/.553/2-8
(W) Buena Vista (IIAC) - 18-7 (.720)/.563/1-2
(MA) Scranton (LAND) - 19-7 (.731)/.536/3-1
(S) Texas-Dallas (ASC) - 20-7 (.741)/.516/0-4
(E) Oswego St (SUNYAC) - 19-8 (.704)/.518/2-6

Won't get to the table...
(MA) Franklin & Marshall (CC) – 17-6 (.739)/.533/2-3     
(W) UW-Stout (WIAC) - 19-7 (.731)/.542/1-5
(MA) Salisbury (CAC) – 16-6 (.727)/.535/3-6*
(AT) Richard Stockton (NJAC) - 19-7 (.731)/.544/1-5


"Bubble Bursters" (presumed Pool As that would be competitive in Pool C)
1. St. Thomas (West, MIAC) - 25-1 (.962)/.542/6-1    vs Augsburg in MIAC final, Sunday 3:00pm
2. Virginia Wesleyan (South, ODAC) - 18-5 (.782)/.557/8-4*    vs Randolph-Macon in ODAC final, Sunday 3:30pm
3. Mary Hardin-Baylor (South, ASC) - 23-4 (.852)/.540/3-2    vs Concordia-Texas in ASC final, Sunday 2:00pm


* My projections assume that Randolph-Macon will be included in the final South ranking.  The following results vs regionally ranked have been applied:
   - Transylvania: 1-0
   - Hampden-Sydney: 2-1
   - Virginia Wesleyan: 0-1
   - Salisbury: 0-1

kiko

15 or 16 games versus RRO is a crazy high number.  They could have half that and most folks would say their schedule was pretty tough.

It would be interesting to see what sort of consideration RM gets were they to not win the AQ.  Alas, if they are considered but don't get a dance card, we'll never know it.

Greek Tragedy

Quote from: Titan Q on February 24, 2013, 10:12:56 AM
Thanks for doing all of your results tracking for the ranked teams, Greek Tragedy!  That's been key to my Pool C projection process.

No problem! You have done a great job and so have a lot of thers. This is what makes this time of year so fun.

I will be gone for most of the day as Greek Jr celebrates his 2nd birthday today. We get to host 10 kids and 15 adults. Wish me luck!  ???
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Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 24, 2013, 01:31:57 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on February 24, 2013, 10:12:56 AM
Thanks for doing all of your results tracking for the ranked teams, Greek Tragedy!  That's been key to my Pool C projection process.

No problem! You have done a great job and so have a lot of thers. This is what makes this time of year so fun.

I will be gone for most of the day as Greek Jr celebrates his 2nd birthday today. We get to host 10 kids and 15 adults. Wish me luck!  ???

Are they all 'in-region'?

ziggy

Quote from: sac on February 24, 2013, 01:33:18 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 24, 2013, 01:31:57 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on February 24, 2013, 10:12:56 AM
Thanks for doing all of your results tracking for the ranked teams, Greek Tragedy!  That's been key to my Pool C projection process.

No problem! You have done a great job and so have a lot of thers. This is what makes this time of year so fun.

I will be gone for most of the day as Greek Jr celebrates his 2nd birthday today. We get to host 10 kids and 15 adults. Wish me luck!  ???

Are they all 'in-region'?

Don't forget about the multiplier. Adults count for .8, Kids count for 1.2.

John Gleich

Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 24, 2013, 01:31:57 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on February 24, 2013, 10:12:56 AM
Thanks for doing all of your results tracking for the ranked teams, Greek Tragedy!  That's been key to my Pool C projection process.

No problem! You have done a great job and so have a lot of thers. This is what makes this time of year so fun.

I will be gone for most of the day as Greek Jr celebrates his 2nd birthday today. We get to host 10 kids and 15 adults. Wish me luck!  ???

That's a nice ratio... Wait until the kids outnumber the adults. Went to a 3 yr old's party... 15 kids with 15 adults. Over been to a few where there are more kids though... Those Getty crazy. Happy Birthday to New School!! ;)
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As a Hampden-Sydney fan how worried should I be tommorow on whether or not my 23-4 Tigers get a Pool C bid....especially if 2-1 and gets add to their record against regionally ranked opponents depending on those stinking Yellow Jackets getting ranked regionally

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WUPHF

Springfield and WPI going to overtime.  No idea why I am watching, but this has been a good game.  The crowd is the best Division III crowd I have seen this season.

http://wpi.prestosports.com/video/live

Titan Q

#4555
Updated SOS included from KnightSlappy - http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/p/2010-2011-d3-mens-regional-rankings.html

In-region record, SOS, and results vs regionally ranked are all through Saturday 2/23 now.  Sunday losses by Williams and Springfield now included.


Pool C projection
1. UW-Stevens Point (West, WIAC) - 21-5 (.808)/.585/7-2 
2. Rochester (East, UAA) - 20-4 (.833)/.575/7-3   
3. Williams (Northeast, NESCAC) - 21-4 (.840)/.566/5-4
4. Middlebury (Northeast, NESCAC) - 19-3 (.864)/.545/2-3
5. Wooster (Great Lakes, NCAC) -22-5 (.815)/.557/3-2
6. Illinois Wesleyan (Midwest, CCIW) - 18-5 (.783)/.556/5-4 
7. MIT (Northeast, NEWMAC) - 19-5 (.792)/.555/4-4
8. Wheaton (Midwest, CCIW) - 17-6 (.739)/.566/4-4
9. Emory (South, UAA) - 19-6 (.760)/.556/5-4
10. Hampden-Sydney (South, ODAC) - 19-4 (.826)/.512/6-3*
11. Wesley (Mid-Atlantic, CAC) - 17-4 (.810)/.530/5-3
12. Albright (Mid-Atlantic, MACC) - 20-6 (.769)/.546/3-1
13. Plattsburgh State (East, SUNYAC) - 19-7 (.731)/.559/5-5
14. Transylvania (Midwest, HCAC) - 19-6 (.760)/.548/4-1* 
15. Concordia-Tx (South, ASC) - 20-4 (.833)/.529/3-2    vs Mary Hardin-Baylor in ASC final, in progress
16. Randolph-Macon* (South, ODAC) - 16-9 (.640)/.576/7-8    vs Virginia Wesleyan in ODAC final, 3:30pm
17. Springfield (Northeast, NEWMAC) - 19-8 (.704)/.563/4-6
18. Stevens (East, E8) - 20-5 (.800)/.533/3-3 
19. SUNY-Old Westbury (Atlantic, Sky) - 21-3 (.875)/.500/2-1
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Left at the table...
(NE) Brandeis (UAA) - 17-8 (.680)/.569/4-7 
(GL) Thomas More (PrAC) - 22-4 (.846)/.512/1-3 
(AT) Rutgers-Newark (NJAC) - 19-7 (.731)/.548/3-4
(MW) Augustana (CCIW) - 18-8 (.692)/.553/2-8
(W) Buena Vista (IIAC) - 18-7 (.720)/.563/1-2
(MA) Scranton (LAND) - 19-7 (.731)/.536/3-1
(S) Texas-Dallas (ASC) - 20-7 (.741)/.516/0-4
(E) Oswego St (SUNYAC) - 19-8 (.704)/.518/2-6

Won't get to the table...
(MA) Franklin & Marshall (CC) – 17-6 (.739)/.533/2-3     
(W) UW-Stout (WIAC) - 19-7 (.731)/.542/1-5
(MA) Salisbury (CAC) – 16-6 (.727)/.535/3-6*
(AT) Richard Stockton (NJAC) - 19-7 (.731)/.544/1-5


"Bubble Bursters" (presumed Pool As that would be competitive in Pool C)
1. St. Thomas (West, MIAC) - 25-1 (.962)/.542/6-1    vs Augsburg in MIAC final, in progress
2. Virginia Wesleyan (South, ODAC) - 18-5 (.782)/.557/8-4*    vs Randolph-Macon in ODAC final, Sunday 3:30pm
3. Mary Hardin-Baylor (South, ASC) - 23-4 (.852)/.540/3-2    vs Concordia-Texas in ASC final, in progress


* My projections assume that Randolph-Macon will be included in the final South ranking.  The following results vs regionally ranked have been applied:
   - Transylvania: 1-0
   - Hampden-Sydney: 2-1
   - Virginia Wesleyan: 0-1
   - Salisbury: 0-1

Pat Coleman

Quote from: WUH on February 24, 2013, 02:37:02 PM
Springfield and WPI going to overtime.  No idea why I am watching, but this has been a good game.  The crowd is the best Division III crowd I have seen this season.

http://wpi.prestosports.com/video/live

You were watching because you are a D-III fan and that game was awesome!
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WPI beats Springfield 79-72 in overtime.  Will be interesting to see where they slot MIT/Springfield in New England.  I think 1 gets in, not both.  Will the 2-1 head to head record be enough to offset 8(??) losses and bump Springfield ahead of MIT??  I doubt it.

Titan Q

Quote from: 7express on February 24, 2013, 03:36:41 PM
WPI beats Springfield 79-72 in overtime.  Will be interesting to see where they slot MIT/Springfield in New England.  I think 1 gets in, not both.  Will the 2-1 head to head record be enough to offset 8(??) losses and bump Springfield ahead of MIT??  I doubt it.

I have both MIT (#7) and Springfield (#17) in at this point for whatever that's worth.

SevenTen

Quote from: Titan Q on February 24, 2013, 03:37:58 PM
Quote from: 7express on February 24, 2013, 03:36:41 PM
WPI beats Springfield 79-72 in overtime.  Will be interesting to see where they slot MIT/Springfield in New England.  I think 1 gets in, not both.  Will the 2-1 head to head record be enough to offset 8(??) losses and bump Springfield ahead of MIT??  I doubt it.

I have both MIT (#7) and Springfield (#17) in at this point for whatever that's worth.

Any plans to do a round by round selection simulation (putting eight up on the board each time) like you did last year?  I'm not sure it changes much but I did find it very interesting.