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KnightSlappy

For those of you that know the West region better than me: is there any way Platteville jumps in ahead of Stout and Buena Vista?

7express

Mary Hardin Baylor down 64-71 with 4:42 remaining.  How are their pool C chances??

bopol

I think Platteville is 15-9 in region with a 2-8 record against RRO.

They got dropped by Stout twice. 

I can't see them moving ahead of Stout or Buena Vista.

bopol

Quote from: 7express on February 24, 2013, 04:48:14 PM
Mary Hardin Baylor down 64-71 with 4:42 remaining.  How are their pool C chances??

I like them.  I think they'll get in pretty easily if they don't win today.


Ralph Turner

Quote from: 7express on February 24, 2013, 04:48:14 PM
Mary Hardin Baylor down 64-71 with 4:42 remaining.  How are their pool C chances??
UMHB, very good.

AO

Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 24, 2013, 04:33:26 PM
For those of you that know the West region better than me: is there any way Platteville jumps in ahead of Stout and Buena Vista?
region win pct# is still too low at .625, I think Augsburg would be ahead of Platteville as well.

Titan Q

#4566
Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 24, 2013, 04:33:26 PM
For those of you that know the West region better than me: is there any way Platteville jumps in ahead of Stout and Buena Vista?

Of that West group after Stevens Point, I have...

1. Buena Vista (IIAC) - 18-7 (.720)/.563/1-2
2. UW-Stout (WIAC) - 19-7 (.731)/.542/1-5 (swept Platteville)
3. UW-Platteville - 15-9 (.625)//.601/2-8
4. Augsburg - 21-7 (.750)/.514/2-3

I don't think any will get in.  I have Stevens Point getting in #1 and then Buena Vista sitting on the board for 18 rounds without getting picked.

KnightSlappy

Quote from: AO on February 24, 2013, 04:52:58 PM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 24, 2013, 04:33:26 PM
For those of you that know the West region better than me: is there any way Platteville jumps in ahead of Stout and Buena Vista?
region win pct# is still too low at .625, I think Augsburg would be ahead of Platteville as well.

Just asking because they have a .601 SOS according to my numbers which is huge.

SevenTen

Quote from: Titan Q on February 24, 2013, 04:55:26 PM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 24, 2013, 04:33:26 PM
For those of you that know the West region better than me: is there any way Platteville jumps in ahead of Stout and Buena Vista?

Of that West group after Stevens Point, I have...

1. Buena Vista (IIAC) - 18-7 (.720)/.563/1-2
2. UW-Stout (WIAC) - 19-7 (.731)/.542/1-5 (swept Platteville)
3. UW-Platteville - 15-9 (.625)//.601/7-2
4. Augsburg - 21-7 (.750)/.514/2-3

I don't think any will get in.  I have Stevens Point getting in #1 and then Buena Vista sitting on the board for 18 rounds without getting picked.

"If" Platteville hit the board first (big if) do you think they get taken?  Their SOS and wins against regionally ranked would be very very favorable.  Could the regional rankers consider a tweak to the final rankings for this reason?

Ralph Turner

#4569
UMHB is on an 8-point run. UMHB was down 78-68 with 1:02 left.

Now it is CTX 78-76 with 31.2 secs left.

CTX 80-76 with 19 secs left.

CTX wins after losing the 2 regular season meetings.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: SevenTen on February 24, 2013, 04:57:43 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on February 24, 2013, 04:55:26 PM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 24, 2013, 04:33:26 PM
For those of you that know the West region better than me: is there any way Platteville jumps in ahead of Stout and Buena Vista?

Of that West group after Stevens Point, I have...

1. Buena Vista (IIAC) - 18-7 (.720)/.563/1-2
2. UW-Stout (WIAC) - 19-7 (.731)/.542/1-5 (swept Platteville)
3. UW-Platteville - 15-9 (.625)//.601/7-2
4. Augsburg - 21-7 (.750)/.514/2-3

I don't think any will get in.  I have Stevens Point getting in #1 and then Buena Vista sitting on the board for 18 rounds without getting picked.

"If" Platteville hit the board first (big if) do you think they get taken?  Their SOS and wins against regionally ranked would be very very favorable.  Could the regional rankers consider a tweak to the final rankings for this reason?

Hard to put them ahead of Stout when Stout has two wins head-to-head. We have seen this before in this conference, if memory serves, and it ended up with both missing out.
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Titan Q

#4571
Updated SOS included from KnightSlappy - http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/p/2010-2011-d3-mens-regional-rankings.html

In-region record, SOS, and results vs regionally ranked are all through Saturday 2/23 now.  Sunday losses by Williams, Springfield, Mary Hardin-Baylor, and Virginia Wesleyan now included.


Pool C projection
1. UW-Stevens Point (West, WIAC) - 21-5 (.808)/.585/7-2 
2. Rochester (East, UAA) - 20-4 (.833)/.575/7-3   
3. Williams (Northeast, NESCAC) - 21-4 (.840)/.566/5-4
4. Middlebury (Northeast, NESCAC) - 19-3 (.864)/.545/2-3
5. Wooster (Great Lakes, NCAC) -22-5 (.815)/.557/3-2
6. Virginia Wesleyan (South, ODAC) - 18-6 (.750)/.557/8-5*
7. Illinois Wesleyan (Midwest, CCIW) - 18-5 (.783)/.556/5-4 
8. Mary Hardin-Baylor (South, ASC) - 23-5 (.821)/.540/3-3
9. MIT (Northeast, NEWMAC) - 19-5 (.792)/.555/4-4
10. Wheaton (Midwest, CCIW) - 17-6 (.739)/.566/4-4
11. Emory (South, UAA) - 19-6 (.760)/.556/5-4
12. Hampden-Sydney (South, ODAC) - 19-4 (.826)/.512/6-3*
13. Wesley (Mid-Atlantic, CAC) - 17-4 (.810)/.530/5-3
14. Albright (Mid-Atlantic, MACC) - 20-6 (.769)/.546/3-1
15. Plattsburgh State (East, SUNYAC) - 19-7 (.731)/.559/5-5
16. Transylvania (Midwest, HCAC) - 19-6 (.760)/.548/4-1* 
17. Springfield (Northeast, NEWMAC) - 19-8 (.704)/.563/4-6
18. Stevens (East, E8) - 20-5 (.800)/.533/3-3 
19. SUNY-Old Westbury (Atlantic, Sky) - 21-3 (.875)/.500/2-1
----------
Left at the table...
(NE) Brandeis (UAA) - 17-8 (.680)/.569/4-7 
(GL) Thomas More (PrAC) - 22-4 (.846)/.512/1-3 
(AT) Rutgers-Newark (NJAC) - 19-7 (.731)/.548/3-4
(MW) Augustana (CCIW) - 18-8 (.692)/.553/2-8
(W) Buena Vista (IIAC) - 18-7 (.720)/.563/1-2
(MA) Scranton (LAND) - 19-7 (.731)/.536/3-1
(S) Texas-Dallas (ASC) - 20-7 (.741)/.516/0-4
(E) Oswego St (SUNYAC) - 19-8 (.704)/.518/2-6

Won't get to the table...
(MA) Franklin & Marshall (CC) – 17-6 (.739)/.533/2-3     
(W) UW-Stout (WIAC) - 19-7 (.731)/.542/1-5
(MA) Salisbury (CAC) – 16-6 (.727)/.535/3-6*
(AT) Richard Stockton (NJAC) - 19-7 (.731)/.544/1-5


* My projections assume that Randolph-Macon will be included in the final South ranking.  The following results vs regionally ranked have been applied:
   - Transylvania: 1-0
   - Hampden-Sydney: 2-1
   - Virginia Wesleyan: 0-2
   - Salisbury: 0-1

sac

Won't have to worry about Randolph-Macon as a 'C' candidate currently running away from Va. Wes.

SevenTen

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 24, 2013, 05:02:19 PM

Hard to put them ahead of Stout when Stout has two wins head-to-head. We have seen this before in this conference, if memory serves, and it ended up with both missing out.

Yeah I think in the "all things fair and equal" side of regional rankings, Stout stays above them... but if you're a regional ranker (from that region and presumably friendly with some of the parties involved), do you think "Stout's resume is just too generic at this point to be a viable selection.  Platteville has a unique resume that might turn some heads... let's bump them up? 

I'm just interested in how those conversations go.

Titan Q

#4574
Updated SOS included from KnightSlappy - http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/p/2010-2011-d3-mens-regional-rankings.html

In-region record, SOS, and results vs regionally ranked are all through Saturday 2/23 now.  Sunday losses by Williams, Springfield, Mary Hardin-Baylor, and Virginia Wesleyan now included.


Pool C projection
1. UW-Stevens Point (West, WIAC) - 21-5 (.808)/.585/7-2 
2. Rochester (East, UAA) - 20-4 (.833)/.575/7-3   
3. Williams (Northeast, NESCAC) - 21-4 (.840)/.566/5-4
4. Middlebury (Northeast, NESCAC) - 19-3 (.864)/.545/2-3
5. Virginia Wesleyan (South, ODAC) - 18-6 (.750)/.557/8-5*
6. Wooster (Great Lakes, NCAC) -22-5 (.815)/.557/3-2
7. Illinois Wesleyan (Midwest, CCIW) - 18-5 (.783)/.556/5-4 
8. Mary Hardin-Baylor (South, ASC) - 23-5 (.821)/.540/3-3
9. MIT (Northeast, NEWMAC) - 19-5 (.792)/.555/4-4
10. Wheaton (Midwest, CCIW) - 17-6 (.739)/.566/4-4
11. Emory (South, UAA) - 19-6 (.760)/.556/5-4
12. Hampden-Sydney (South, ODAC) - 19-4 (.826)/.512/6-3*
13. Wesley (Mid-Atlantic, CAC) - 17-4 (.810)/.530/5-3
14. Albright (Mid-Atlantic, MACC) - 20-6 (.769)/.546/3-1
15. Plattsburgh State (East, SUNYAC) - 19-7 (.731)/.559/5-5
16. Transylvania (Midwest, HCAC) - 19-6 (.760)/.548/4-1* 
17. Springfield (Northeast, NEWMAC) - 19-8 (.704)/.563/4-6
18. Stevens (East, E8) - 20-5 (.800)/.533/3-3 
19. SUNY-Old Westbury (Atlantic, Sky) - 21-3 (.875)/.500/2-1
----------
Left at the table...
(NE) Brandeis (UAA) - 17-8 (.680)/.569/4-7 
(GL) Thomas More (PrAC) - 22-4 (.846)/.512/1-3 
(AT) Rutgers-Newark (NJAC) - 19-7 (.731)/.548/3-4
(MW) Augustana (CCIW) - 18-8 (.692)/.553/2-8
(W) Buena Vista (IIAC) - 18-7 (.720)/.563/1-2
(MA) Scranton (LAND) - 19-7 (.731)/.536/3-1
(S) Texas-Dallas (ASC) - 20-7 (.741)/.516/0-4
(E) Oswego St (SUNYAC) - 19-8 (.704)/.518/2-6

Won't get to the table...
(MA) Franklin & Marshall (CC) – 17-6 (.739)/.533/2-3     
(W) UW-Stout (WIAC) - 19-7 (.731)/.542/1-5
(W) UW-Platteville - 15-9 (.625)/.601/2-8
(MA) Salisbury (CAC) – 16-6 (.727)/.535/3-6*
(W) Augsburg - 21-7 (.750)/.514/2-3
(AT) Richard Stockton (NJAC) - 19-7 (.731)/.544/1-5


* My projections assume that Randolph-Macon (ODAC Pool A) will be included in the final South ranking.  The following results vs regionally ranked have been applied:
   - Transylvania: 1-0
   - Hampden-Sydney: 2-1
   - Virginia Wesleyan: 0-2
   - Salisbury: 0-1