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Quote from: wabco on June 11, 2015, 12:31:19 PM

...I believe Hamden Sydney folks will be surprised to see that "Wabash travels".  It should be a good tailgate and fan base and fun motels.  If any Little Giants are in the VA area ... they should plan to include the festivities in their Labor Day.

I think the HSC folks would be more surprised if Wabash did not travel. As far as "fun motels" there's only 4 in all of Farmville. A Super 8, a Comfort Inn, a Day's Inn and a Hampton Inn. They fill up fast for home games. I highly reccomend you guys book early. Bring your sunscreen as the visitors side offers zero shade. 

Our Tigers do lose some key players and we will certainly be underdogs. We do have 5 guys who started on the OL and some excellent receivers returning. The new QB will be interesting. The last QB to replace a 3 year starter was Travis Lane '10 he went 9-2 and threw for 3300+ yards and 28 TDs.  Last year we had 4 new OL starters against the Wabash D. It turned ugly. This year we come in with a new QB.  But it's not a question as to if he will be good - he will.  The question this year is what Coach is planning offensively. Which in my mind makes HSC much more difficult to defensively prepare for this season than last.

Defensively HSC lost several to graduation. Offensively HSC will be very good. The big question mark is definitely the defense.
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NCAA Playoffs - 77, 07, 09, 10, 11, 13, 14
The "Game" 60 wins and counting...
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sigma one

#30886
It's still a long two-month wait for the Wabash v. Hampden-Sydney rematch.  But here is what the rosters show to my best knowledge, and absent any surprise returnees for an extra year.
   First, the Offenses.  H-SC loses two big-time talents in Nash and Walker.  They also lose their leading rusher, Macko (551 yds, 6 TDs).  And in addition to his passing, Nance was the second-leading ball carrier (401 yds, 9 TDs).  Along with Walker, H-SC also loses Kernan at WR.  Druhan and Saverese leave at TE.  The offensive line should be a strong point with all, or all but one, of its starters back.  Mey returns at WR, and also Costello, who handled punt returns (12.3 ave) and about half the KO returns.  Nance will be tough to replace.  The only other QB to see action was Moore, who threw all of 6 passes.  From the outside, it looks like the QB position will be up for grabs.  But the Tigers will enter the first game with no on-field experience at QB.  The only returning running back with more than ten carries last year will be Stringfield (12 carries, 76 yds--a nice 6.3 yds/att).  From the H-SC website it appears that 34 freshmen are being added to the roster, with only one new QB.  Besides Moore, four other QBs were on last year's roster.
     For Wabash on offense, Hodges will be missed at WR.  The starting TE and his back up both graduated.  Most importantly, Holmes is also gone at RB.  He was twice a 1000 yd + rusher.  Returning are both QBs, Putko and Rice, who together threw for 24 TDs and rushed for 6 more.  During the second half of 2014, Putko took about two thirds of the snaps.  Christen (73/973, 9 TDs) returns at WR.  Also coming back are Adams (28 receptions, 4 TDs) and Dickerson (11 receptions, 1 TD, but also the second team All_NCAC return specialist).  The entire offensive line returns after all of them playing all 12 games a year ago.  Lastly, Zurek (along with Holmes, one of the two first-team All-NCAC running backs) returns (129 carries, 835 yds, 12 TDs).  Wabash's recruiting class has not yet been released on the website, but I've heard there will be more than 50 new players.  Defenses to come in a next post.
       

sigma one

#30887
The Defenses.
Wabash loses a big three:  Cody Buresh (DE, All-American), Akinrabade (LB), and Wilkins (LB/S combo).  Also gone is Hodges, who played corner when needed in addition to his full-time place at WR.  He was an all-conference quality corner. Bauer, who saw a lot of time at LB, also graduated.  Returning on the DL are McCullen (5 sacks) and, for a fifth year, Rutter.  At LB Ethan Buresh (11 sacks), Karns (who sometimes plays at rush end), and Ludwig return.  The latter two were late-season starters after Klembara was injured.  The entire defensive backfield returns, if Woods can return to full-time play at corner.  A three-year starter, he is coming back off a late-season knee injury.  The others are Pettiford (C) and Cmehil and Brown at safety.  Brown led the team in tackles.
     Both the KO specialist--Stratman--and the FG kicker--Tutsie-- return, as does the punter--Fox (40 yd ave).
For H-SC it appears that the losses are Markland, Potter, and Bazemore on the DL.  Palmer returns at DE.  At LB, Doggett (1st in tackles) and Stack are gone.  Martin returns; he was 2nd in tackles a year ago.  Three defensive backs were seniors:  Moore and Rohle at safety, and Berry at corner.  Haskins will be back at safety and Henry at corner.  Henry also returned KOs. 
     It looks like the losses defensively are significant.
     Gone is the FG kicker.  Chalkley returns as the punter.
     I know about the Wabash depth returning, and don't know about Hampden-Sydney's other contributors.
     Maybe one of the Tiger posters can fill in the gaps.

HSCTiger74

Quote from: HSCTiger74 on April 15, 2015, 03:21:56 PM
Quote from: wabco on April 14, 2015, 12:28:25 PM
I h ad the good fortune to meet and spend some time with a recent HS grad (base baller).  I asked about the stadium. While seating is all along one side, it is new and pretty nice.  Tailgating seems to be the same type with similar administration approaches.  His description was that the HS tailgaters would be welcoming of Wabash fans.  I explained that a Wabash open and welcoming tailgate is the rule with Wabash (except possibly in the case of Witt and Dannies). He felt they will be very curious about Wabash and similarities to what HS believes.  The tailgates could/should be fun.  I told him I expect Wabash will "travel well" and be represented well at the game and before the game.  His description of the town sounds like a smaller C-ville. Not many motels ... so if you have not obtained lodging yet ... get on it.  I know a number of folks who already have accommodations for Friday and Saturday.  So ... I say ... Wabash ... if you can, be there.  This could be a fun time in the genre of Whitewater tailgates and a chance to spend some time learning not only about HS but the lower VA as well.  WAF

   I haven't been up for a game since the stadium upgrades so this could now be totally wrong, but there has always been seating on the visitor's side of the field. The only drawback is that it is high school-like aluminum bleachers, with no cover at all. Be sure to have seat cushions, and if it's a sunny day plenty of sunscreen and a good hat. Alternatively, there's usually room on the grass for those who are comfortable with spreading a blanket (it's a natural bowl, so visibility will be OK), plus it's more shaded.
   As to the question of where to stay, you might find it expedient to find a place in Lynchburg or Richmond and make the hour or so drive on game day. I know when my nephew, who played at Dickinson, made the trip a few years ago that's what the team and most of the supporters did.
     

Just to follow up on what HSCtigerfan said, I thought that I'd repost this exchange from April.
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HSCTiger fan

Quote from: sigma one on July 03, 2015, 09:50:59 AM
It's still a long two-month wait for the Wabash v. Hampden-Sydney rematch.  But here is what the rosters show to my best knowledge, and absent any surprise returnees for an extra year.
   First, the Offenses.  H-SC loses two big-time talents in Nash and Walker.  They also lose their leading rusher, Macko (551 yds, 6 TDs).  And in addition to his passing, Nance was the second-leading ball carrier (401 yds, 9 TDs).  Along with Walker, H-SC also loses Kernan at WR.  Druhan and Saverese leave at TE.  The offensive line should be a strong point with all, or all but one, of its starters back.  Mey returns at WR, and also Costello, who handled punt returns (12.3 ave) and about half the KO returns.  Nance will be tough to replace.  The only other QB to see action was Moore, who threw all of 6 passes.  From the outside, it looks like the QB position will be up for grabs.  But the Tigers will enter the first game with no on-field experience at QB.  The only returning running back with more than ten carries last year will be Stringfield (12 carries, 76 yds--a nice 6.3 yds/att).  From the H-SC website it appears that 34 freshmen are being added to the roster, with only one new QB.  Besides Moore, four other QBs were on last year's roster.
     For Wabash on offense, Hodges will be missed at WR.  The starting TE and his back up both graduated.  Most importantly, Holmes is also gone at RB.  He was twice a 1000 yd + rusher.  Returning are both QBs, Putko and Rice, who together threw for 24 TDs and rushed for 6 more.  During the second half of 2014, Putko took about two thirds of the snaps.  Christen (73/973, 9 TDs) returns at WR.  Also coming back are Adams (28 receptions, 4 TDs) and Dickerson (11 receptions, 1 TD, but also the second team All_NCAC return specialist).  The entire offensive line returns after all of them playing all 12 games a year ago.  Lastly, Zurek (along with Holmes, one of the two first-team All-NCAC running backs) returns (129 carries, 835 yds, 12 TDs).  Wabash's recruiting class has not yet been released on the website, but I've heard there will be more than 50 new players.  Defenses to come in a next post.
     

Saverese TE is going to be a senior he was the backup or 2nd TE at beginning of year. Druhan was hurt in the 4th or 5th game and Saverese started the remaining games. Stringfield transferred out. This fall HSC will start a QB and RB with very little experience. The experienced OL will hopefully help take the pressure off these guys. It's hard to say how any player that has not had their shot will do. Walker caught 1 pass as a freshman backing up an All American (Vance) but when he got his chance he had 248 receptions over the next 3 years. I mentioned QB Lane in my other post. He had gone 0 for 6 as a freshman and sophomore backing a future HOF HSC QB.  In Lane's first start as a junior he went 27 of 37 348 yards and 4 TDs. He threw for 6996 yards in 2 seasons. 

There are questions. But I'm confident in our coaches and returning players. The seniors have been in 3 playoff games in 3 years with 2 ODAC Chapionships, the Sophs and Juniors have never finished a season without a championship ring, the incoming guys chose HSC for many varied reasons, I'm confident HSC's tradition of winning was certainly a huge consideration.
Hampden Sydney College
ODAC Champions 77, 82, 83, 87, 07, 09, 11, 13, 14
NCAA Playoffs - 77, 07, 09, 10, 11, 13, 14
The "Game" 60 wins and counting...
11/18/2018 Wally referred to me as Chief and admitted "I don't know about that!"

sigma one

HSCTiger fan:  Thanks for the information.  From year to year, there are always roster changes and emerging contributors that don't show up until camps begin.  I was, of course, going off last year's rosters and results for both Hampden-Sydney and Wabash.  Everyone associated with Wabash is thinking that the Tigers will be a severe test, particularly on their home turf. 
     You mentioned Walker's one catch as a freshman and a new QB  who ended up becoming a prolific passer.  That's what makes a new year so exciting as fresh players emerge.  I recall Matt Hudson, a three-year starter for Wabash at QB.  He came off the bench in the season's third game during his sophomore year and never left the field again (except briefly in his senior season when he was injured).  He was a three-time first-team all-conference  pick and twice conference offensive player of the year.  He told me that when camp started for his soph season he was the seventh QB on the depth chart.  I know H-SC will find a talented new QB and replacements elsewhere.  So will Wabash, and I can even anticipate who some of them will be as I hear comments from inside the program.     
     Looking forward to continuing chatter here as the teams gear up for the opener.
   

Sir Battlescars

The Sporting News has Wittenberg at #10 in their preseason poll. Does anyone have any thoughts on whether or not this is a good assessment of what is expected of them this year? Or is it just the usual; outside of Mount Union and Whitewater they really don't have a clue.

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sigma one

#30892
Witt returns an experienced core of skill players, including their 1st-team all-NCAC QB, a first-team  all-NCAC WR, the top-two running backs (both seniors), two other receivers who caught more than 40 balls last year, three offensive linemen, and a sold group of defensive players led by two first-team players--at DL and DB--and a 2nd team player--at DB.  Their punter and kicker also return.  The kicker was 14/15 on FGs last year.  They need to replace two LBers who were their 1st and 3rd leading tacklers.  But the Tigers always have talent in reserve.
     At the least they should to be the early team to beat in the NCAC.  As for a #10 ranking preseason, based on last year and despite the big playoff loss, they probably deserve to be somewhere in the top 15 or so; #10 does not shock me.  I'll wait to see if DIII football places them near that number.  And also to see if Wabash is in the Top 25 in DIIIFB; they are not ranked pre season in the magazine polls.  I am biased, but I believe they return enough to be considered for a spot in the Top 25.

wally_wabash

Quote from: sigma one on July 06, 2015, 06:31:36 PM
Witt returns an experienced core of skill players, including their 1st-team all-NCAC QB, a first-team  all-NCAC WR, the top-two running backs (both seniors), two other receivers who caught more than 40 balls last year, three offensive linemen, and a sold group of defensive players led by two first-team players--at DL and DB--and a 2nd team player--at DB.  Their punter and kicker also return.  The kicker was 14/15 on FGs last year.  They need to replace two LBers who were their 1st and 3rd leading tacklers.  But the Tigers always have talent in reserve.
     At the least they should to be the early team to beat in the NCAC.  As for a #10 ranking preseason, based on last year and despite the big playoff loss, they probably deserve to be somewhere in the top 15 or so; #10 does not shock me.  I'll wait to see if DIII football places them near that number.  And also to see if Wabash is in the Top 25 in DIIIFB; they are not ranked pre season in the magazine polls.  I am biased, but I believe they return enough to be considered for a spot in the Top 25.

The Witt RB situation is interesting to me.  Both Dehnke and Gary have had success against Wabash- Dehnke went for 111 and 3 TDs in 2012 and Gary was (at least IMO) the biggest difference in the 2013 game.  Last year, not just against Wabash but all year, those dudes were non-factors.  Witt ranked 8th in the NCAC in total rush offense and they ranked 8th in the league with just 3.1 ypc.  That isn't the Witt football I've watched for the last 15 years.  If they can get back some of that stout run game, that offense could be incredible.  But we waited all year for that last year and it never happened.  Maybe the OC change dictated a different style there and that's just not what they are anymore. 

Wabash ought to be in top 25s in the preaseason.  Even if you don't like them as much as Wittenberg, I think the track record of Wabash plugging in graduation losses, particularly on defense, over the last 8 years earns some benefit of the doubt capital.  But that's just me.  In either case, we won't have to wait long to figure out the Wabash/Witt pecking order.  Gameday is 9/26 this season. 

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sigma one

The Wabash 2015 roster has been posted.  Looks like 51 new players; 50 freshmen and 1 transfer. 

bashbrother

D3 Football Pre-Season Poll is out.

http://www.d3football.com/top25/2015/preseason

Wabash #10
Wittenberg #17

Interesting.   

WAF!
Why should you go for it on 4th down?

"To overcome the disappointment of not making it on third down." -- Washington State Coach Mike Leach

wally_wabash

#30896
Quote from: bashbrother on July 13, 2015, 02:39:21 PM
D3 Football Pre-Season Poll is out.

http://www.d3football.com/top25/2015/preseason

Wabash #10
Wittenberg #17

Interesting.   

WAF!

Interesting that D3football.com ranks Wabash in the top 10 and ahead of Wittenberg while the other top 25s have ignored Wabash entirely.  Goes to show you who's actually paying attention.   :)
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bashbrother

Quote from: wally_wabash on July 13, 2015, 04:30:09 PM
Quote from: bashbrother on July 13, 2015, 02:39:21 PM
D3 Football Pre-Season Poll is out.

http://www.d3football.com/top25/2015/preseason

Wabash #10
Wittenberg #17

Interesting.   

WAF!

Interesting that D3football.com ranks Wabash in the top 10 and ahead of Wittenberg while the other top 25s have ignored Wabash entirely.  Goes to show you who's actually paying attention.   :)

That.
Why should you go for it on 4th down?

"To overcome the disappointment of not making it on third down." -- Washington State Coach Mike Leach

Sir Battlescars

I find it interesting too, especially after what Sigma One reported about each team and who they have returning, but not surprised when you consider how bad Witt played in their playoff game last year. And Wabash did hold their own for a good part of their game vs. Whitewater.

My two cents:  10 seems a little high for Wabash, but when you consider their consistency and accomplishments over the last several years, I guess they've earned it. Wittenberg at 17 seems to be right where you'd expect to see them.

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wally_wabash

Quote from: Sir Battlescars on July 14, 2015, 01:15:11 PM
I find it interesting too, especially after what Sigma One reported about each team and who they have returning, but not surprised when you consider how bad Witt played in their playoff game last year. And Wabash did hold their own for a good part of their game vs. Whitewater.

My two cents:  10 seems a little high for Wabash, but when you consider their consistency and accomplishments over the last several years, I guess they've earned it. Wittenberg at 17 seems to be right where you'd expect to see them.

How many interceptions?

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