IIAC 2013

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Madhatter5

Quote from: doolittledog on August 21, 2013, 02:11:31 PM
If UD sucks that bad, what does it say about the rest of the league ;D

Thanks for catching up to the conversation Puerco, Ambush and I are having by stating a fact said multiple times.

In the end we would all like to see the IIAC become a powerhouse for obvious reasons but also so that Loras wouldn't have to travel all over the Midwest to strengthen their schedule for when it comes time for NCAA bidding and field location.

I will give you that UD has improved since Brad Johnson, a Loras Alum, has taken over the reins.
UD's IIAC Record:
'01: 1-5-2
'02: 0-6-2
'03: 1-7-0
'04: 1-6-1 (Brad's first year)
'05: 1-6-1
'06: 2-5-1
'07: 3-5-0
'08: 4-4-0
'09: 7-1-0
'10: 7-1-0
'11: 5-3-0
'12: 5-2-0

But as Puerco has said they haven't reached the tournament yet. Which is a pretty difficult task to say the least. Also doesn't help the Loras bias of UD that Loras hasn't lost to UD in the last 12 years...

Medicated Pete

Quote from: Madhatter5 on July 31, 2013, 12:12:03 pm

   
QuotePuerco, what are the reason's the two players are coming to play for Loras after starting at D1?


I do believe Loyola has a new coach this year...so Tyler Cruikshank and Richard Lenke didn't fit into the look of things..according to the Asst. Coach when I asked him at a tournament in Rockford during the summer...Hope its a plus for the Duhawks.

Also anyone hear that this is the last year Wheaton(poor sportsmanship) will be playing Loras College during season play??

Puerco Espin

Medicated Pete - I do believe you are correct. I think it has to do with the Wheaton coach not wanting to come out to Dubuque, but I could be mistaken.
NCAA Final Four: 2007, 2008, 2012, 2013, 2015
NCAA Sweet 16: 2005, 2009, 2010, 2014
NCAA Tournament: 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015
IIAC Champions: 2003, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015

KICKIN95

Could also be that Wheaton is tired of the "L" on their record.
Master of all things "DuHawk"

Ambush004

Wheaton doesn't like getting pushed around from other conferences. Duhawks seem to never back down from taking someone on their schedule. This year they play Calvin, st. Scholastica and NP all which gave them a little reality check. Especially what happened in 2011 with Calvin. Yikes

pad3fan

Ambush, as Wheaton has year in and year out played one of toughtest schedules in the country, your comment about getting pushed around really doesn't seem to hold water. And Medicated.....even if Wheaton chooses not to continue to play Loras in the regular season, how does this constitude poor sportsmanship?

Puerco Espin

Correct me if I'm wrong Medicated, but the poor sportsmanship comes from the players' behavior on the pitch, not necessarily that they are done playing Loras in the regular season after this season.

2007: 14-7-1
2008: 15-4-3
2009: 14-4-3
2010: 11-7-3
2011: 10-8-2
2012: 18-4-3

82-34-15

No doubt that's impressive. Don't get me wrong, I wholeheartedly believe that Wheaton is a quality program. But I do think Ambush holds water with his statement. They've always performed well in the CCIW, no arguing that.
NCAA Final Four: 2007, 2008, 2012, 2013, 2015
NCAA Sweet 16: 2005, 2009, 2010, 2014
NCAA Tournament: 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015
IIAC Champions: 2003, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015

Puerco Espin

Loras dropped Upper Iowa 5-1 yesterday in a exhibition match. I understand it's only preseason, but based on the accounts I received from those who had eyes at the game, the Duhawks were dangerous. After allowing a PK, they ripped off four goals in 30 minutes according to Upper Iowa's recap.

Among the goal scorers was Pat Langan, who's 2012 season ended against Wheaton in late September due to an ACL tear. Very promising to see him playing again let alone producing.

Can't wait until Friday when the season gets underway.
NCAA Final Four: 2007, 2008, 2012, 2013, 2015
NCAA Sweet 16: 2005, 2009, 2010, 2014
NCAA Tournament: 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015
IIAC Champions: 2003, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015

Madhatter5

I would like to know the true reason for Wheaton not wanting to play Loras anymore.

If any team wants to grow as a program then you have to continue to play a tough schedule, as Wheaton does according to padfoot. That being said, why would they want to drop a team that has consistently been in the top 25 the last 5 to 8 years that is less than 3 hours away from them. Either there is some bad blood or Wheaton doesn't want to play a team that is that high up on the top 25 list. Or Loras could have decided to end the relationship. Never know.

Puerco, did you see/hear about any of the other IIAC teams Preseason games and how they went?

Ambush004

Loras seems to drop a tough opponent one ear and pick another one up the next. Example dropping wash u but now picking up Calvin. I doubt it's on Rotherts efforts to not play Wheaton. Great rivalry hate to see it end. But I would like to know about preseason games as well if anyone has any input about team around the area and who they played.

pad3fan

MadHatter, we may learn more or we may not. However for those that suggest that Wheaton does not like to play a tough schedule and may be "dropping" Loras due to results, I suggest they look back over the SOS the last 5 years or so. It would tough to find teams that have played a more difficult schedule. And some food for thought, the best team in the country in D3 over the last 10 years (Messiah) hasn't always played one of the toughest regular season schedules.

doolittledog

Preseason conference picks are up.

http://www.iowaconference.com/news/2013/8/26/MSOC_0826134525.aspx


Rank School (1st place votes)Points2012 Record

1       Loras (7) 56 23-2-1, 7-0-0 IIAC (21 pts.)

2       Luther (1) 47 10-5-3, 4-3-0 IIAC (12 pts.)

3       Dubuque   39 11-6-1, 5-2-0 IIAC (15 pts.)

4       CentraL     36   8-10-3, 3-4-0 IIAC (9 pts.)

5      Wartburg    35   7-9-2, 3-3-1 IIAC (10 pts.)

6       Simpson    32  13-8-1, 3-3-1 IIAC (10 pts.)

T7    Buena Vista 17   5-11-1, 0-7-0 IIAC (0 pts.)

T7    Coe            17    5-12-1, 2-5-0 IIAC (6 pts.)

d3fan1

I gaurantee Wheaton is not afraid to play Loras. They have proven in past years they don't shy away from tough competition. Loras doesn't shy away from tough competition either. After getting drubbed by Calvin a couple of years ago, you now see Loras playing Calvin. Quality programs relish playing other quality programs. That is one of the best ways to grow.

I'm going to try to get to both the Calvin and Wheaton match. They should both be very entertaining. Speaking of tough schedules, Calvin starts with Ohio Wesleyn, Kenyon, Loras, North Park, and Hope. If they get through that stretch that would be a major accomplishment.

ldahoSoccer

Loras goes undefeated this year.  17-0-2.  Hosts all the way to the final four.  See y'all in Texas. 

/end thread
NCAA Final Four: 2007, 2008, 2012, 2013
NCAA Sweet 16: 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2012, 2013
NCAA Tournament: 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
IIAC Champions: 2003, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2012, 2013

Saint of Old

Loras is for sure a good team.

The most impressive is that they have consistency.
many teams have a magic run or two and then fade away.

Alma was very good late 90s.
I have not heard much from Richard Stocton lately either.

What Wheaton has though, is two stars on its chest.
Ultimately that is what you will be judged by.

I think teams like Loras, Amherst and Chris Newport must first win that big game to really get the respect their program undoubtedly deserve.