BB: General NY Region Talk

Started by Bob Maxwell, October 18, 2007, 02:03:28 PM

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Who will represent the New York Region in the Division III Baseball World Series?

SUNY Cortland
7 (43.8%)
Ithaca
0 (0%)
Stevens
1 (6.3%)
Rochester
2 (12.5%)
Non-Region Team
6 (37.5%)

Total Members Voted: 16

John McGraw

With the rankings coming out later today, I'll take a stab at this...

1. SUNY Cortland
2. Oswego State
3. St. John Fisher
4. Stevens
5. Clarkson
T6. Farmingdale State
T6. Ithaca

John McGraw

Looks like I was pretty close. No real surprises. Farmingdale or Old Westbury may sneak into the bottom as we get closer to the regionals.

New York Region         
1   SUNY Cortland   31-5-0 ( 0.861)   31-5-0 ( 0.861)
2   Oswego St.   24-7-0 ( 0.774)   25-7-0 ( 0.781)
3   St. John Fisher   23-8-0 ( 0.742)   23-8-0 ( 0.742)
4   Stevens   21-13-0 ( 0.618)   21-13-0 ( 0.618)
5   Ithaca   19-12-0 ( 0.613)   19-12-0 ( 0.613)
6   Brockport   18-15-0 ( 0.545)   18-15-0 ( 0.545)


Jack Parkman

Quote from: John McGraw on April 28, 2016, 05:03:27 PM
Looks like I was pretty close. No real surprises. Farmingdale or Old Westbury may sneak into the bottom as we get closer to the regionals.

New York Region         
1   SUNY Cortland   31-5-0 ( 0.861)   31-5-0 ( 0.861)
2   Oswego St.   24-7-0 ( 0.774)   25-7-0 ( 0.781)
3   St. John Fisher   23-8-0 ( 0.742)   23-8-0 ( 0.742)
4   Stevens   21-13-0 ( 0.618)   21-13-0 ( 0.618)
5   Ithaca   19-12-0 ( 0.613)   19-12-0 ( 0.613)
6   Brockport   18-15-0 ( 0.545)   18-15-0 ( 0.545)

John-  I have little (VERY LITTLE) knowledge of the NY Region and was hoping you could explain how a team that is barely over 500 can be regionally ranked??  Thanks

John McGraw

Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 28, 2016, 05:48:37 PM
John-  I have little (VERY LITTLE) knowledge of the NY Region and was hoping you could explain how a team that is barely over 500 can be regionally ranked??  Thanks

In the specific case of Brockport, the Golden Eagles have quality wins over Stevens, Kean, Cortland and unranked Liberty League leader Clarkson. Those quality victories and an SOS of 55, even with the large number of losses, get Brockport into the conversation. I had penciled Farmingdale State, the Skyline leader, above Brockport based on overall record though Farmingdale's SOS of 229, which I didn't look up earlier, is extremely poor. FSC does have a win over Kean but 'Port beat Farmingdale head to head. In terms of the regionals however, I believe Farmingdale has a better chance as the Rams are leading their league and I think, at this point, it will come down to them and Old Westbury for the Skyline Conference AQ. Whereas Brockport in the SUNYAC has to go through Cortland and Oswego. I can't see the SUNYAC getting three teams into the tournament unless both Cortland & Oswego are upset in the conference playoffs.

This has been a year in New York where everyone, maybe aside from Cortland, Oswego and Fisher, has beaten up on everyone else. Of the schools outside of those in the top four, the list of teams that could be ranked is extremely short. I would be surprised if more than 4 New York teams end up in the NCAA's.

Jim Dixon

Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 28, 2016, 05:48:37 PM
Quote from: John McGraw on April 28, 2016, 05:03:27 PM
Looks like I was pretty close. No real surprises. Farmingdale or Old Westbury may sneak into the bottom as we get closer to the regionals.

New York Region         
1   SUNY Cortland   31-5-0 ( 0.861)   31-5-0 ( 0.861)
2   Oswego St.   24-7-0 ( 0.774)   25-7-0 ( 0.781)
3   St. John Fisher   23-8-0 ( 0.742)   23-8-0 ( 0.742)
4   Stevens   21-13-0 ( 0.618)   21-13-0 ( 0.618)
5   Ithaca   19-12-0 ( 0.613)   19-12-0 ( 0.613)
6   Brockport   18-15-0 ( 0.545)   18-15-0 ( 0.545)

John-  I have little (VERY LITTLE) knowledge of the NY Region and was hoping you could explain how a team that is barely over 500 can be regionally ranked??  Thanks

Six teams have to be listed in the New York regional rankings.  As John said, the backend of the NY regional rankings are soft

NYbaseballguy

This is spot on.  Brockport should be recognized for the schedule they play.  It's a three team race at the top.  All three would be great to see in a regional.  If Ithaca wants any love at all, they have to get a series sweep at St. John Fisher this weekend. 

John McGraw

Don't think there will be any significant changes in the regional rankings this week. I could see either Clarkson or Farmingdale/Old Westbury replacing Ithaca. Other than that, it should be status quo with some leagues wrapping up regular season play this weekend and others into the conference tournament.

DucksBB

How deep does the committee go into the evaluations??  Since our early season start and Cali trip Stevens has gone 18-5 over their last 23 games...with only 6 of those at home.  Our SOS is solid.  Unfortunately, we lost the Cortland game to rain which would have helped our cause.  I don't expect the regional rankings to change for 1-4 and we sit at #4.  Just hope the region gets some respect come bid time.

John McGraw

May 5 New York Regional Rankings

New York Region            
1   SUNY Cortland   34-5-0 ( 0.872)   34-5-0 ( 0.872)   
2   Oswego St.   28-7-0 ( 0.800)   29-7-0 ( 0.806)   
3   St. John Fisher   27-8-0 ( 0.771)   27-8-0 ( 0.771)   
4   Stevens   24-13-0 ( 0.649)   24-13-0 ( 0.649)   
5   Ithaca   20-14-0 ( 0.588)   20-14-0 ( 0.588)   
6   Brockport   22-16-0 ( 0.579)   22-16-0 ( 0.579)

Same as last week, no changes.

John McGraw

Very quiet here with a big final weekend on tap that includes conference tournaments in the Liberty League and Empire 8.

Right now, the field for Auburn looks like this

Pool A - SUNY Cortland, St. Joseph's College (Long Island), Liberty League AQ (Union, Rochester, Clarkson, RPI)

Potential at-large bids include Oswego State (Pool C), St. John Fisher (Pool B/C) and Stevens (Pool B/C). Both Brockport and Ithaca will most likely be regionally ranked tomorrow but I don't think either has a good enough resume to move past Fisher or Stevens.

Stevens picked up a big win on Sunday over New England regionally-ranked Amherst. It could come down to the Empire 8 tournament with the winner, if it's Fisher or Stevens, knocking the other out of NCAA tournament contention. The winner won't be guaranteed a spot, just my guess. I can't see both in the field. Right now, Fisher is still ranked ahead of Stevens but depending on what happens this weekend, that could flip-flop the two in the final pre-tournament ranking. Stevens at least has an edge in SOS, 42 to 86.

And as a reminder, the region itself is not guaranteed any number of spots into the field. Oswego, Fisher, Stevens etc will be competing against teams around the nation to try and earn one of the 16 at-large spots.

John McGraw

The last set of regional rankings we'll see. Records shown do not include yesterday's games.

New York Region                  
1   SUNY Cortland   37-5-0 ( 0.881)   37-5-0 ( 0.881)         
2   Oswego St.   31-9-0 ( 0.775)   32-9-0 ( 0.780)         
3   St. John Fisher   30-9-0 ( 0.769)   30-9-0 ( 0.769)         
4   Stevens   26-13-0 ( 0.667)   26-13-0 ( 0.667)         
5   Ithaca   24-14-0 ( 0.632)   24-14-0 ( 0.632)         
6   Brockport   23-19-0 ( 0.548)   23-19-0 ( 0.548)   

NYbaseballguy

Well, the teams I thought would get in got in.  However, where they are playing is a totally different animal.  Oswego and Fisher get shipped out of NY.  Why, I have no idea.  Both teams literally an hour from Auburn NY at most and go to PA and Conn.  Yet, Frostburg, Ramapo and Susquehanna end up in NY.  Very confusing.  So much for travel considerations LOL.  And, for the folks that like to follow D3 baseball in NY, the region gets awarded 6 teams and only three stay in region.  Lots of shifting and in my view unnecessary travel.  Oswego to me gets particularly hosed a bit here.  That's a tough 8 teamer over there and although they are the 2 seed they get traditionally strong East. Conn as a 7 seed.  Suffolk is a very good 5 seed there.  On the flip side, Ramapo, who was number one for a time this year runs into Union as Fischman.  After that, I love Cortland to get through NY again. 

NYbaseballguy

Let's have some fun here!  I will start the regional picks..nothing but online bragging rights to the winners:
NY: CORLTAND, best draw in sometime. Ramapo could easily lose first game to Union, this regional is weakest in my eyes.
Mid Atlantic: UMASS Boston, I want to pick Fisher and think they can win this but I am going with a longshot here.
South: Birmingham Southern, tough region, all six teams are good. I still can't believe Marietta was shipped here.
Central: Wisc. Whitewater, simply because of the differences in first game.  Rose Hulman is a tough team for Wartburg
Mideast: Randolph Macon, this region is also very good at top, top four could all come out here.
Midwest: UW Lacrosse, and that gives me two teams from same league in world series.
New England: Wheaton, but I think Oswego has a real shot here, as does Suffolk
West: Trinity, and my pick to win the whole thing

It would be nice to see Cortland, Oswego and Fisher in the world series and of course we all will be rooting for that.

NYbaseballguy

Cortland winner...Fisher winner...Union has lead into ninth and bullpen can't hold. Fischman dominant again.  Oswego tied up late with East Conn. The video with the East. Conn vs Oswego game is great. Fisher regional has number one seed go down.  I had the chance to see games at Auburn...like Cortland's chances but Ramapo dodged a big bullet and can ride that momentum..Great time of year!

NYbaseballguy

Digging a lot of my picks!!  And, I want to change my Umass Boston pick.  Fisher is rolling and let's get them through this game.  I can't see any team in this regional beating them twice if it comes to that.  Impressive right now.  The ole NY region is being represented well right now.  Cortland gets anticipated matchup with Ramapo. Oswego will still be a tough out in that regional.