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Title: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BedtimeForBonzo on March 12, 2005, 12:24:50 AM

quote:

phantom fouls



Pat said on the d3hoops.com broadcast that there were a lot of strange calls that were pretty evenly distributed.  He's just a bit more neutral in this than either of us :-)


quote:

holding her own against Rhode



Tara did score nearly twice her season average (16.7) tonight on 13-of-21 shooting.  That may be her season high.    

By the way:  the official box score is up.
Title: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 12, 2005, 12:29:06 AM
One of the last five points in regulation by Trinity was a free throw. Morusma foul before that on Rohde (she made both her shots) was legit, to my recollection.

Two fouls called on Macon in the final 3:30. I don't think that is unreasonable.
Title: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 12, 2005, 12:29:32 AM
When I was referring to a number of strange calls, that was out of bounds calls. I think the fouls were pretty fair.
Title: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BedtimeForBonzo on March 12, 2005, 01:06:24 PM
Thanks for the clarifications, Pat.  Oh well, on to next year and a dramatically different conference race.
Title: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: RMC Hoopster on March 12, 2005, 04:39:28 PM
OK, I know I'm a little biased being an RMC fan, but there were 8 fouls called on RMC in the last 5:30 minutes of regulation compared to ONE against Trinity. One was a clear block by Marusma on Rhode at the 1:39 mark, the ball had left Rhode hands when she hit the ball!!  

It just seemed like the harder RMC worked, the tighter the calls got against them going down the stretch.

I will agree with Pat, there were some really screwy out of bounds calls both ways and I thought there was some inconsistency made on 3 seconds and travelling calls both ways.  

I'm just saying 6 of the last 12 points for Trinity in regulation were FTs compared to 1 for RMC. Trinity took six other FTs during this same time!!  (RMC made the only FT they took.)  The refs definitely kept Trinity in the game.RMC was lucky Trinity was not hitting their free throws.

It was a tough loss for Trinity and would have been just as hard to swallow for RMC.
Title: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BedtimeForBonzo on March 12, 2005, 05:37:47 PM
Geez, Hoopster, you won - enough said.        

Since this will probably be my last post of the season, congrats to TU's Christyn Schumann who won the NCAA D3 indoor high jump title today, setting a season high in so doing.   I believe Christyn makes up the school's entire indoor track team.   This is her second NCAA championship, adding to the outdoor title she took in the same event as a first year in 2004.
Title: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hopefan on March 12, 2005, 08:15:01 PM
Bonzo, thanks for all the info on the game and for sticking up for the team.... if Pat says the fouls were reasonable, ' nuff said.  Tara and Amy had great games, wish Jenna and Lauren had played up to par, but they were great all year.  Tho  I only saw them twice, I'll miss these girls and my association with Trinity now that Amy graduates.  It's really been a fun 4 years following the team.
Title: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 12, 2005, 11:20:03 PM
Randolph-Macon's fouling kept Trinity in the game, Hoopster. The refs merely were the ones calling the fouls.
Title: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BedtimeForBonzo on March 16, 2005, 11:31:07 AM
I lied.  Congratulations to All-South honorees Tara Rhode (first team), Amy Howe (second team) and Jenna Smith (third team).  DePauw's Amy Argetsinger (first team) and Rose-Hulman's Rebekah Forsythe (third) were named to the all-Great Lakes team.
Title: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BedtimeForBonzo on March 16, 2005, 11:50:51 AM
Argetsinger and Rhode are also among 40 nominees for the 2005 Kodak/WBCA All-America Basketball Team for NCAA Division III.  Ten players will be selected and announced NCAA Division III Banquet of Champions on March 17, 2005 in Norfolk, Virginia.
Title: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BedtimeForBonzo on March 18, 2005, 09:41:57 AM
Pretty funny - Tara Rhode is taller than the men's Josten Award winner :-)
Title: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Carl Weathers on March 18, 2005, 03:05:31 PM
Rarely do you see a 5'10 person that is taller than a 6'2 person.
Title: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BedtimeForBonzo on March 21, 2005, 05:07:14 PM
You're right, that was a pretty stupid post.  Happens to the best of us (and apparently me too).

A final tip of the hat to Tara Rhode, named today to the first team of D3hoops.com's All-America squad.  DePauw's Amy Argetsinger, the only other SCAC honoree, was named to the fourth team.
Title: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BedtimeForBonzo on March 24, 2005, 02:33:25 PM
This is a few days old, but Tara was also named to the WBCA/Kodak All-America Team.  She was the only center among the ten players named to the first team.  Amy Argetsinger was one of 30 players named honorable mention (WBCA only selects a first team and an honorable mention team).   Congrats to both women on the conclusion of very fine careers.

(Message edited by BedtimeForBonzo on March 24, 2005)
Title: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 04, 2005, 11:15:44 PM
Congratulations to Southwestern on their hiring of Coach Ruder!  Quality addition to the SCAC!!!  I can see Southwestern really improving their women's hoops team!
Title: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BedtimeForBonzo on May 07, 2005, 02:55:38 AM
Like the front page says, it's a real head scratcher.  Maybe Ruder got tired of the snow, or wanted to try a league a little less competitive than the WIAC.  It's a coup by the Pirates in any case.  

It will be interesting to see how much the SW program improves, especially given what I imagine are somewhat higher academic standards in Georgetown than in Oshkosh.  Not to mention a whole lot smaller student body (9K at UW-O vs about 1300 at Southwestern).  It goes without saying they'll be better.
Title: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan 2000 on May 26, 2005, 11:01:21 PM
Oshkosh is a good school.  Don't blow that BS on here.
Title: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 26, 2005, 11:06:16 PM
Most recent Oshkosh incoming class: ACT scores over 24 34%; ACT scores over 30 2%
Most recent Southwestern incoming class: ACT scores over 24 85%; ACT scores over 30 19%

Southwestern seems to be a better school. Nobody said Oshkosh was a BAD school, T2k -- perhaps that chip on your shoulder is affecting your reading.
Title: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BedtimeForBonzo on May 29, 2005, 01:19:36 AM
And, courtesy of collegeboard.com:

Southwestern:
   * 47% in top 10th of graduating class
   * 83% in top quarter of graduating class

UW-Oshkosh:
   * 11% in top 10th of graduating class
   * 39% in top quarter of graduating class

Next?
Title: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scaccommish on June 22, 2005, 08:39:57 PM
Some breaking news out of San Antonio - courtesy of Trinity Sports Information:

Wednesday, June 22, 2005

TRINITY'S GEYER RESIGNS AS WOMEN'S BASKETBALL HEAD COACH

SAN ANTONIO – Becky Geyer has resigned as head women's basketball coach after 13 seasons at Trinity University to accept a position of assistant coach at the University of Central Florida.

Geyer, who led the Tigers to the NCAA Division III Championship in 2003, will join the staff of the Division I Golden Knights in Orlando.

Trinity's Director of Athletics Bob King said the university will immediately begin a national search to fill the position.

"Our plan is to find a replacement for Coach Geyer who will continue her legacy of success in Division III women's basketball at the national and conference levels," King said. "I want to thank Becky for her enormous contribution to Trinity athletics and wish her all the best in reaching her career goals. Today, not only did Trinity lose a head coach, we also lost our recruiting coordinator, Brad Durchslag, who accepted an assistant's position at Carnegie Melon University."

Geyer amassed an overall record of 229-107 (68.2 percent), but took the Tigers to a 77-13 mark (85.6 percent) over the past three years. The record included a 28-5 finish during the national championship season. Under Geyer's guidance, Trinity earned bids to the NCAA tournament four times, in 1995, 1996, 2003 and 2005. She was twice elected the Molton/Women's DIII News National Coach of the Year, in 1995 and 2003.  

"It's a new challenge for me at an up-and-coming Division I program," said Geyer, selected as the 2003 San Antonio Express-News Sportswoman of the Year. "I have had great relationships with the athletes and coaches at Trinity. The athletes I worked with are fine young ladies. We've enjoyed so many special memories. Winning a national championship was pretty cool, too."
Title: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hopefan on June 24, 2005, 08:18:10 AM
I'm sorry, this seems to me to be a real case of jumping ship - what happens to Lauren Andrews, who did the program a favor by agreeing to play last year, and is the only returning starter - the super senior class graduates, and the head coach who had a national championship team and was on D3 national commitees leaves for an assistant's job!!!???  I feel bad for the returning kids, especially Lauren, if she plays this year, and the tough times to come.
Title: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tufan on June 25, 2005, 12:19:08 PM
hopefan - not sure about your facts. 1) jenny farrar is also a returning starter. She had 12-10 against Greensboro and 10-12 against RMAC. She's certainly no slouch, plus she was a contributing member, as a freshman, to the team that won the national championship. In addition, keep your eye on Martha King this year.  

I wouldn't feel too bad for the returning kids, knowing the athletic department, they are going to find a darn good coach.  

As for Coach Geyer, "jumping ship," if her dream is to be a head coach at the division I level, she has to start somewhere. an assistant coaching position for a C-USA team (in 06-07) is a good place to be.
Title: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 25, 2005, 05:09:57 PM
Shoot, Geyer was there for more than a dozen years. She's entitled to move on. I guess I'm somewhat surprised that she couldn't pull down a D-I head coaching job, but there haven't been a lot of jumps like that and with Julie Goodenough not having a lot of success with the leap from Hardin-Simmons to Oklahoma State, such opportunities might be harder to come by.
Title: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BedtimeForBonzo on June 25, 2005, 05:19:14 PM
Dag, we'll miss her.  Coach Geyer took a program with zero tradition and turned it into one of the best in the country.  I hope this works out for her.  She's going to be hard to replace; too bad we couldn't have gotten the UW-O coach, Ruder, who is now at Southwestern.  Definite change in the SCAC power structure next year, like there wasn't going to be one already.    

"Jumping ship" ?  Pah.  I'm greatful that Geyer stayed here as long as she did.   She was on the short list for a D-I job last year if memory serves, so this shouldn't come as a shock.
Title: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hopefan on June 25, 2005, 11:00:20 PM
Sorry regarding error on Farrar; I was thinking 4 seniors plus Andrews.  Still, My thoughts were that Coach Geyer was so solid at Trinity, just hard to think of an assistant's position at a low level D1 school.
Title: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BedtimeForBonzo on July 11, 2005, 12:15:47 PM
According to Sunday's Daily Dose, DPU women's coach Kris Huffman is one of the finalists for the open UW-Oshkosh position.  That would really throw the SCAC women's race into turmoil next year, with new coaches at both Trinity and DPU as well as Southwestern.  

The decision (there are three other finalists) is expected by the end of the month.   The question to ask: why would Huffman be interested in what seems a lateral move ?
Title: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BedtimeForBonzo on July 21, 2005, 09:44:53 PM
In Notables, Trinity has named Jenna Smith's sister, Amie Smith Bradley, to replace Becky Geyer.  She comes to TU from Bishop Lynch HS, where she was an assistant, as well as coaching in the AAU ...
Title: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Roaring 00's on August 13, 2005, 10:17:09 AM
I'm new to the board this year. After reading up on some of the previous posts, there's been plenty of action/changes within the SCAC. What's the outlook on all the teams in the league? Trinity and DePauw lost some key people, it's RHIT's last year, S'western has a new coach, Hendrix has a strong returning senior class, and everyone else in the league could make a run. Any thoughts on the season... anyone know any new faces (freshman) that might make immediate impacts for their team?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: kevin mchale on September 02, 2005, 11:30:00 PM
D3 Stat Freaks:

What is the age of the youngest woman to have coached a D3 team?

Reason for asking... Trinity '04 grad Gen Schmitt takes job at UD...
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on September 29, 2005, 10:38:21 AM
UD likes to hire Trinity grads.  Back when they were talking about starting club FB, they "hired" a Trinity-ex to coach the team. 

Sorry I cannot answer your question.   :(
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scaccommish on November 11, 2005, 11:41:25 AM
2005-06 SCAC Women's Preseason Predicted Order of Finish is posted at:

http://www.scac-online.org/basketball_womens
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: moseshightower on November 17, 2005, 01:25:20 PM
Interesting that Rhodes wasn't the favorite in the SCAC.  They return everyone from a team that beat Trinity by double digits last year.  Of course, they also lost twice to Southwestern.  Taylor Cook and Ashley Farrell are two of the better players in the conference.  Depauw loses Argetsinger and Zondor and is an overwhelming favorite, that is very strange.  Sewanee as a super sleeper on d3hoops is an interesting pick.  I think the loss of Ashleigh Whitworth will be tough for them to overcome and match their record from last season.  With two rookie coaches in Texas and the best player in the conference at Rose-Hulman, I think the SCAC is wide open this year.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tusid on November 22, 2005, 10:23:13 PM
FYI for tomorrow night's home opener for the Trinity Tigers...live stats are at the following link:

http://www.trinity.edu/departments/athletics/WBasketball/05livestats/xlive.htm


Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on November 27, 2005, 05:22:56 PM
Anyone heard what the Wilmington/DePauw game score is?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Herb on November 29, 2005, 02:56:18 PM
roaring0506,
You probably already know this by now, but Depauw won 88-75.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Herb on December 01, 2005, 10:06:45 PM
Trinity beats Southwestern tonight 56-47.  Farrar leads Trinity with 14 and 11.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: #1HOOPSFAN on December 05, 2005, 04:30:56 PM
Why doesn't there seem to be much talk about  the USA South.  I would like to hear some talk as to how everyone feels the league is going to play out now that we have seen some non-conference scores.  Who looks like the favorites? Who might surprise some people. I don't think it's going to play out like the preseason rankings.  Let's hear some talk
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 05, 2005, 04:51:33 PM
hoopsfan, perhaps one reason for your confusion is that this is the Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference board (aka the dead board), not the board for the USA South (http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=1533.from0#new). 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 29, 2005, 06:21:03 PM
The Trinity women defeated two good teams in winning their holiday tourney this week.  They utilized a balanced offensive attack to defeat Johns Hopkins 64-59 in the finals.   Meaghan Scholbel led the way with 12 points and 10 boards in 27 minutes; Martha King and Jennifer Farrar added 10 points each.   Hopkins' Katie Kimball had 22 to lead all players.  Trinity improved to 7-1 on the young season while Johns Hopkins fell to 7-2. 

The Tiger women defeated Illinois Wesleyan in the opener, 69-61, behind 18 points and 13 rebounds from Farrar.  Leda McDaniel had 10.  Wesleyan's Val Fleishman had 21 points and 10 boards in just 19 minutes off the bench.   The Titans fell to 7-3 with the loss.

In the consolation final, Illinois Wesleyan defeated Ripon, 62-59. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: moseshightower on December 29, 2005, 09:55:05 PM
The Tigers should get a good test this weekend at Springfield's tournament.  Along with the hosts, St. Lawrence and Bates are both solid teams (despite Bates' sub-.500 record).  If they continue winning there, I suspect they will be back in the top 25.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 30, 2005, 01:01:02 PM
Thanks, Moses.  I didn't realize they were playing in two tourneys in one week (not to mention travelling to New England for the second).   

Though it won't be easy, two wins in Massachusetts could put the Tiger women back on the national map and spotlight what has been an excellent job by first-year head coach Amie Smith Bradley.   Ms. Bradley, a four-year starter for the University of Texas, is also the older sister of Jenna Smith, who graduated last year holding TU's single-season and all-time steals records.   
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: moseshightower on January 02, 2006, 07:52:17 PM
Has anyone seen Oglethorpe play this year?  I saw they are currently 9-1 and was wondering if that was a function of their schedule or if they have improved that much.  They were picked to finish 9th in the SCAC and still might but all those regional wins can only help the SCAC's chances of grabbing a Pool C bid.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 03, 2006, 11:56:19 AM
Trinity almost extended their winning streak to nine games, falling 76-71 in OT to a Bates team which has been strengthened by the mid-season transfer of a couple of student athletes (including last season's co-NESCAC Rookie-of-the-year, Amherst's Matia Kostakis).  A 5-15 performance from the FT line, where Bates enjoyed a 34-15 advantage, didn't help matters.   

Krista Matthews and Jennifer Wieman scored 15 off the bench to lead the Tigers.  Bates' Meg Coffin nearly recorded a triple-double with 15 boards, 13 points, and 8 steals.  Jackie Powers led all scorers with 18 points.

Bates improves to 6-5 on the season, while Trinity falls to 8-2. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopsfan11 on January 04, 2006, 02:48:14 PM
Oglethorpe is much improved this season with the addition of 12 freshmen and several players back from injuries last year.  They have beaten some quality programs including Bridgewater, Maryville, Emory, and Chapman.  They won their first conference game yesterday against Millsaps.  OU didn't play well but still came out with the win.  This weekend should be a big test for the young petrels with games against Rhodes and Hendrix at home.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scaccommish on January 07, 2006, 12:06:53 AM
All scores and stats from tonight (1/6) posted on SCAC website:
http://www.scac-online.org/basketball_womens
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: moseshightower on January 09, 2006, 09:48:11 AM
Interesting weekend in the SCAC, for the first time that I can remember Oglethorpe's trip through Texas next weekend will be significant.   With the number of turnovers the Petrels have been forcing and the number the Tigers have been giving, it could be a wild game on Friday.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopsfan11 on January 09, 2006, 10:29:24 AM
Oglethorpe went 3-0 in their first three conference games (men and women).  The women took a talented Rhodes team to overtime and scored 17 points in OT to win by 6.  On Sunday, they held Hendrix to 20 points below their scoring average and won by 18.  Hendrix tried to mount a comeback in the second half cutting the gap to 8 points, but they couldn't get any farther than that with as few players as they are playing.  Oglethorpe is exciting to watch.  We'll see how they can perform on the road.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: moseshightower on January 10, 2006, 11:17:39 AM
Oglethorpe #24 this week, probably the first time ever that the Petrels will be somewhat of a favorite against Trinity.  The Kulavic kid must be pretty good, SCAC POW three times already. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 10, 2006, 05:46:00 PM
The disadvantage of having to travel from Atlanta may make it more of a toss-up, but Oglethorpe has been playing well enough to have earned the favorite's role.  Too bad Trinity had to shoot 33% from the FT line against Bates, otherwise it'd be a battle of two one-loss teams.   OU's only loss, however, is to Division I Davidson. 

Lots of young players on that team ... Kulavic, Findlay, Jones, Grace are all first years.  A team on the rise which should be potent for some time.  It would be nice if the OU SID would file on occasional game story on d3hoops.   
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopsfan11 on January 11, 2006, 12:42:30 PM
Just to add to Ron's last post...OU actually has 12 freshmen on the roster, and they start 4 freshmen (Kulavic, Gowan, Richmann, and Brooks).  In fact, 7 of what is probably considered their top 8 players are freshmen.  The only upperclassman that starts now that Brittany Corbett is out with an ACL tear is point guard Erin Flynn.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerbball on January 11, 2006, 01:08:43 PM
Trinity University will be hosting the NCAA Take a Kid to a Game on Jan. 22 in our contest vs. Hendrix.  There will be free admission for all and other activities planned for the youngsters.  email me with any questions at laura.skeen@trinity.edu
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SCACFollower21 on January 11, 2006, 05:08:41 PM
Katie Kulavic from Oglethorpe was selected on the d3hoops.com team of the week for the second time. It will be interesting to see how she and the young Oglethorpe team fairs against Trinity and Southwestern.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 13, 2006, 09:22:43 PM
Final from San Antonio: Trinity 103, Oglethorpe 92.

From the box, it looks like OU's lack of depth may have been a factor.  Only eight women played for the Stormy Petrels, with one of those (Tina Grace) seeing only two minutes.   

Leading scorers:
OU:  Flynn 25 (6-12 from beyond the arc), Richmann 21, Gowan 13, Kulavic and Jones 10 each.
TU:  Dawson 19, Schobel 18, Prato-Matthews and Farrar 14 each, McDaniel 12, Hannon 11. 

Rebounding:  OU 19-29, 48 (Richmann 9, Kulavic 8, Brooks 7); TU 38-31, 69 (Farrar and Prato-Matthews 13, Scholbe 12).  Farrar had ten offensive rebounds!

Assists:  OU 20 (Brooks 6); TU 23 (McDaniel 8 )
Turnovers:  OU 34, TU 25.
Blocked Shots:  OU 2 (Richmann, Finley), TU 4 (King 3)
Steals:  OU 12 (Kulavic 4), TU 20 (McDaniel, Scholbe 6)
Fouled out:  OU Gowan (in 20 minutes), TU Scholbe (in 18)

Shooting:  OU 28-66, 42.4%; TU 39-94, 41.5%
3FG:  OU 11-26, 42.3%; TU 4-11, 36.4%
FTs:  OU 25-37, 67.6%; TU 21-34, 61.8%

     Oglethorpe    57  35   92
     Trinity       43  60  103


OU shot 59.4% in the first half, 26.5% in the second.
TU shot 40.9% first half, 42.0% second. 

Rematch in Atlanta in a few weeks ... should be a good one!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 13, 2006, 11:15:16 PM
Trinity's narrow loss to Bates (in OT) seems more impressive now that Bates knocked off #3 Bowdoin 56-51.   Maybe if the women win on Sunday they will get back into the top 25. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 15, 2006, 05:21:55 PM
Oglethorpe (13-2, 4-1 SCAC) 80, @Southwestern (8-8, 3-2) 74 ...
@Trinity (12-2, 5-0) 76, Millsaps (6-9, 1-4) 63 as TU forced 30 turnovers
@DePauw (15-1, 5-0) 106, Sewanee (9-6, 1-4) 66 - DPU got 32 from Liz Bondi on 14-17 shooting
Centre 68 (3-11, 1-4), @Rose-Hulman (8-7, 1-4) 62
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OUfan22 on January 16, 2006, 03:07:20 PM
To add more on the OU vs. Trinity game on top of just stats, both teams played well...Looking at the big picture, OU played a great first half leading by 14 at halftime, and Trinity played a great second half and ended up outscoring OU by 25...Trinity's second half just seemed to be a little bit better then OUs first...

Trinity's determination was something to be admired being down 14 at halftime, and it just seemed like the petrels weren't ready for it...this is one of the first games that OU has not had more steals than the opposing team...However, rebounding was the biggest factor, Trinity had 38 offensive rebounds allowing them to shoot 90 something shots!

I can say that the petrels are more than ready for another shot at the tigers and they will be ready when Trinitiy comes to atlanta...it should be another great game
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 16, 2006, 03:12:25 PM
OUfan22, what about the Lady Petrels***  against Southwestern?  You only won by 6.  Can you comment?  (Southwestern is only 2-4 vs. the ASC-West.)

***(What do you call a female petrel?  :D )
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: airball1 on January 16, 2006, 05:19:57 PM
Against Southwestern, Oglethopre held a commanding 20 point lead midway through 2 half and slowed down maybe a little to early but considering the second road game in three days in Texas and first conference road trip for this freshmen laden team not to bad. They were not looking for point spread but a W. Also, Friday's game with Trinity was a very physical fast paced game.
By the way, a quickly improving Southwestern squad had won five in a row before this game.
A lady petrel is a STORMY PETREL!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 16, 2006, 05:50:38 PM
Quote from: airball1 on January 16, 2006, 05:19:57 PM

A lady petrel is a STORMY PETREL!

And no guy wants to see the angry side of a STORMY PETREL! :D :D :D

Thanks for the report!  That is a good road trip!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OUfan22 on January 16, 2006, 09:22:00 PM
     As airball1 said, the petrels had the lead in the second half up to 19 points but Southwestern finally caught on to the press, got the ball up the floor, and started getting wide open threes near the end of the game...from what I hear they have not shot that well all year...

    Also, southwestern's inside game was hard to defend in the halfcourt...OU small posts are forced to front and even helpside from the small gaurds couldn't stop George from scoring...

   The lady pirates just got hot near the end and that, added to the fact that OU was probably a little worn out on a sunday game on the road was the reason for the slim 6 point difference...

   They still took care of business even though it wasn't pretty...the game at home should show a wider spread
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: moseshightower on January 17, 2006, 12:13:13 PM
I don't know if I would count on a wider spread at Oglethorpe.  The Pirates have been getting better all season long and if they figured out the press at the end of this game what would happen if they figured it out from the beginning?  This isn't meant to knock the Petrels, I think they are having a great season and should only help the SCAC's chances of getting multiple teams into the NCAAs whether that be them, Trinity or Depauw.  With Depauw being in a different region, hopefully all three can get in. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 18, 2006, 09:56:14 AM
Three is probably a stretch unless a lot of teams from the more highly-regarded conferences lose a couple of games each.  The only time I can remember the SCAC getting as many as two bids were when Trinity beat DePauw in the tourney and got the "A," so DPU got the "C".  Trinity was 24-3 a couple of years ago, lost in the conference tourney to DPU, and sat at home despite winning the NCAAs the year before. 

DePauw can get in without winning the SCAC, but I doubt if either Trinity or Oglethorpe can - and both would seem to be impossible.  Not saying I like it given that Trinity has done well in the playoffs the last two times they were in, but it seems to represent the way the selection comittee thinks. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: moseshightower on January 18, 2006, 10:33:43 AM
I do remember Trinity getting shut out of the tournament with a 24-3 record and from what I understand, it essentially came down to other teams having a greater strength of schedule within their region.  It had nothing to do with Trinity or the SCAC not being highly regarded.  The D3 process doesn't work like D1 otherwise the WIAC would probably get in more than one team each season.  I just think that if those three can limit their losses to just each other then they would all finish with strong regional records and have a shot to get in the tourney especially with so many more Pool C bids.  The way it's going, I think the SCAC does have a great shot at getting two teams into the postseason.  It's looking like the road will go through McMurry in the South which is a tough place to play.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 18, 2006, 01:36:07 PM
I am thinking that the first round may be the "3-bracket" as much as I do not want that.

Trinity as the SCAC Pool A hosting an ASC Pool C bid (e.g., HPU or HSU) and the winner going to Abilene or Trinity hosting both games and playing the Pool C on Wednesday and the Pool A on Saturday.

I would much rather play that first game and not have the bye!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 18, 2006, 02:55:31 PM
DePauw looks seriously tough this season, Ralph.  I'll be very surprised if they don't win the conference.   

Too bad nobody posts in support of what has historically been the SCAC's best team. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Baxter on January 18, 2006, 05:15:42 PM
I don't think three teams from one conference is impossible or even improbable.  Because of the expanded bracket and with the strong south region records Trinity and Oglethorpe both have so far, I think it could happen,  especially if DePauw doesn't win conference for some reason.  It will depend on how much the teams in the SCAC beat each other up this year.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 18, 2006, 05:47:47 PM
Ron, there are 21 Pool C bids this year.  I think that both the ASC and the SCAC might get Pool C bids.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dirty_South on January 22, 2006, 11:57:10 AM
Looking forward to the Depauw/Oglethorpe matchup this afternoon....another great test for the young petrels and a chance to see the Tigers in action. I'l l be making the trip to Atlanta for this one...should be a good one. Not sure if the petrels are ready for what is coming at them today....
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 22, 2006, 12:49:50 PM
Dirty South, I am looking forward to a report from you about the game.  This is the best test yet for the birds... a little British slang there. ;D
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 22, 2006, 05:49:11 PM
Courtesy DPU athletics:

January 22, 2006, Atlanta, Ga. - The DePauw women's basketball team, ranked ninth in the latest Coaches' Poll and 10th by D3hoops.com, improved to 17-1 overall and 7-0 in the Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference with a 88-60 victory at Oglethorpe. The win was the Tigers' 16th straight. The Stormy Petrels dropped to 14-3 overall and 5-2 in the conference. Oglethorpe led much of the first half, but DePauw went to the break with a 39-36 advantage. The Tigers opened the second half with a 19-7 run to extend the lead to 15 at 58-43. The Tigers then gradually built the margin to as many as 29.

Trinity squeezes past Hendrix 82-76.  A three pointer by Kate Dawson with 0:22 left sealed the victory.

Rhodes wins at Southwestern, 71-62. 

Rose-Hulman defeats Millsaps, 67-59.

Trinity and Southwestern make their Indiana road trip next weekend.   
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dirty_South on January 22, 2006, 09:04:31 PM
Tigers too much for the young petrels....they have played two good 1st halves against TU and DU but have yet to put together a complete game against the elite SCAC teams. And really I wonder if the lack of depth and the up and down style gets the best of their legs in the second half of games. DePauw was solid the whole game and excecuted on both sides of the court. OU is still probably the 3rd or 4th best team in the SCAC and will need a good tourney showing to get a Pool C bid...
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OUfan22 on January 23, 2006, 11:33:47 AM
dirty south pretty much said it all...the petrels came out and it seemed as if depauw was totally unprepared for the initial intenisty and the petrels quickly led by 9...the major difference was depauw's consistency...i can't wait until they can put a whole game together, but they are young and a complete 40 minute game will come eventually
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Herb on January 23, 2006, 12:15:47 PM
INTERESTING STAT:

It doesn't compare to Kobe Bryant's line, but Trinity's Megan Scholbe managed to shoot 16 times (making 5, for 13 points) and grabbed 11 rebounds in only 19 minutes of play. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 23, 2006, 12:48:17 PM
... and for the second straight weekend, Jennifer Farrar recorded ten offensive rebounds in a single game (this week against Hendrix, last week against Oglethorpe). 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU_radio_guy on January 23, 2006, 01:00:20 PM
Hi Folks...I've been awful busy recently..haven't had much time to sit down and share some thoughts...

DPU's women's team has really impressed me.  They put out a great effort yesterday @ Oglethorpe, and the expereience of that team showed.

It seemed like press kind of shell-shocked them early.  Also, that was far and away the loudest gym they've played in this year.  After a few mistakes and a few missed lay-ups..it seemed like they calmed down and were able to excute their offense they way they're capable of. 

DePauw weathered the early storm from Oglethorpe, and finally calmed down about 10 minutes in.  After a pretty good run to end the first half, DPU went up by 3 into the locker room.

I felt like Coach Huffman made some great adjusments at halftime, and DPU just ran away in the second half.  I think some of the youngsters on that Oglethorpe team started to get a little frustrated and made some mistakes.  I'm a little nervous to see this OU team in a couple of years, they're going to be REALLY good.  I'm even a little nervous to see them in the conference tournament next month.

This DePauw team is really good.  They continue to surprise me with how well they play everytime out.  It'll be a big one Sunday in the Neal Fieldhouse when TU comes to town.  That'll be a pretty good measuring stick I think.  We'll see exactly where this DPU team is. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: airball1 on January 23, 2006, 09:57:41 PM
DePauw has jumped to a well deserved #5. Balanced, well coached team. Oglethorpe played them even for 20 min. and forced 24 turnovers well above DPU's average but OU could not execute in the second half and DPU did. Of course, DPU's defense had a lot to do with it. If OU gets a couple more pieces of the puzzle, watch out. Starting 4 freshmen and the first two off the bench are freshmen, they might not need any more pieces and next season Corbett returns after ACL surgery and she has two years remaining. It seems some additional depth inside would be the answer.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: moseshightower on January 24, 2006, 09:39:57 AM
At the halfway point of the conference season, it's looking like once again Depauw and Trinity are the favorites and this weekend should tell us who the frontrunner is, I know Depauw is ranked highly but I still don't think they have much more talent than Trinity, they definitely have more experience and I think Kris Huffman is the best coach in the league.  Oglethorpe has been the biggest surprise this season.  Southwestern is coming along nicely and if Pam Ruder can get some players there, they could be very good in the next couple of seasons.  I gotta admit I'm a little disappointed in Rhodes so far, they returned everyone from last year and after a close loss to Depauw they have dropped a number of games by wide margins, I wonder if there is something going on there.  That being said, with the talent at Rhodes, Hendrix, Rose Hulman and Sewanee and the improved play of Southwestern, this year's SCAC tournament should be the most competitive yet and while it may still end up being Trinity vs. Depauw on that last Sunday I think they will have to work much harder to get there than they have in past years.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 25, 2006, 10:50:57 AM
Congrats to Trinity for breaking into this week's D3hoops.com Top 25, at #22 ... too bad they have to play DePauw in Greencastle this weekend.    :-[ 

Moses, Coach Huffman has done an excellent job for years and I would agree she's the best coach in the league.  At the same time, I am impressed by the job that Coach Sattele is doing at OU, and by Coach Bradley at TU.  Both need a few more years under their belts until either can dethrone Huffman. 

It will be interesting to see how well Coach Ruder will be able to recruit at Southwestern over the next couple of years.  It will take her a little while to build up her local contacts having spent so many years at UW-O.  Her hiring was a coup for the Southwestern women's athletic program and I expect the program to improve as she brings in her players and injects her style into the program.  She only has one first year in the program this season .. Natasha Azizi, who at 11.6 ppg is the team's #2 scoring option.  Her 26 steals, 17 blocks, 53.1% shooting, and 5.6 rpg all lead the team.   If she is indicative of the type of player Coach Ruder can recruit, things will be looking up for the Lady Pirates. 

A more competitive SCAC is a good thing. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 25, 2006, 05:03:11 PM
My thoughts about Southwestern and Coach Ruder is how easy will it be to fly some Wisconsin players and families from Chicago O'Hare to Austin in February.  Dad brings the golf clubs.  Mom does some serious Texas-style shopping.  Daughter gets an education that is comparable to the CCIW or MWC or MIAC, and 30 degrees warmer and maybe a little less expensive.  (Please help on the costs of those 3 conferences vs. Southwestern.)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: piratefan on January 26, 2006, 12:18:55 PM
  As most of you probably know, Austin College will be joining the SCAC next year.  It is with regret that my first posting to this site is to share the sad news that a member of the AC women's basketball team, Brittany Simpson, was killed in a car accident on Tuesday, January 25th.  Brittany was a first year player from The Woodlands.  Knowing that the institutions in the SCAC are class acts, I thought that we as a conference should extend our condolences to the Austin College community and the women's basketball team in particular.
  Those wishing further information on the incident may want to check out the America Southwest "Posting Up".

   The following is a blurb from a local paper:

Updated 8:11 AM on Wednesday, January 25, 2006
Woman, 18, killed in I-45 accident

Eagle Staff Report



An 18-year-old resident of The Woodlands was killed Tuesday when her car ran off the road and into oncoming traffic in Madison County.

Brittany Simpson was northbound on Interstate 45, about 2 1/2 miles north of Madisonville, according to a Department of Public Safety report.

Simpson lost control of the vehicle, which crossed the center median and was struck on the driver's side by a southbound vehicle, the report states. She died at the scene.

The driver of the second vehicle, Deshine Jordan of Houston, and her four passengers suffered cuts and bruises, according to DPS.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: airball1 on January 26, 2006, 08:53:06 PM
So sorry to hear about the young lady from Austin.
Rebecca Forsyth, the leading scorer and rebounder from Rose-Holman lost her 22 year old brother last week in a house fire. He was buried last friday. We mourn the passing of anybody but especially the young.
Title: DePauw Basketball
Post by: tigerdadplm on January 27, 2006, 02:51:15 PM
hmmmm ???
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 27, 2006, 09:13:35 PM
Poor free throw shooting (11-23) cost Trinity another game tonight, as the women were upset by Rose-Hulman 53-51.   There is simply no excuse for shooting less than 50% from the charity stripe!

Rebekah Forsyth led all players with 20 points and 16 rebounds as the Lady Engineers won despite having to play their five starters at least 30 minutes each; only two subs saw any playing time.  Congrats to Rose-Hulman. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 28, 2006, 01:03:39 AM
That Trinity loss may even impact the seedings!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dirty_South on January 28, 2006, 09:13:46 PM
If Trinity falls to Depauw on Sunday the rematch on 2/10 in Atlanta with Oglethorpe will be huge....Was Trinity overlooking RHIT??
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OUfan22 on January 29, 2006, 01:52:22 AM
does anyone have more details on the trinity/rose hulman game?  without knowing anything, its a probability that trinity came in too cocky and gave the game away...trinity is clearly the better team overall but a big pat on the back to the engineers....especially playing 40 min, that's so impressive that they managed to beat a great team with no big subs...for Carlson and Forsyth, the win was well deserved as far as this season is concerned...this certainly makes the OU/trinity game a crucial one for seeding if trinity loses to depauw...I don't think trinity will upset depauw but you never know...
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OUfan22 on January 29, 2006, 01:56:29 AM
i'm all for girl's basketball and a big women's athletic supporter but at the college level the difference of men's and women's height and athletic ability is too much for depauw's women to hang with them...that being said, i think the women's depauw team is great and i'd take them over a lot of D2 schools
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 29, 2006, 10:37:43 PM
Tough weekend for the ladies from San Antonio.  It looked like today's game was much more representative of their potential than Friday's.  Congrats to DePauw for pulling the W out at home. 
Title: SCAC All-Anniversary Women's Basketball Team
Post by: scaccommish on January 31, 2006, 04:16:44 PM
HENDRIX'S TURNBOW; DEPAUW'S ARGETSINGER; CENTRE'S AUSTIN LEAD VOTING FOR SOUTHERN COLLEGIATE ATHLETIC CONFERENCE'S 15TH ANNIVERSARY WOMEN'S BASKETBALL TEAM

SUWANEE, Ga. – Hendrix College guard Lauren Turnbow, DePauw University forward Amy Argetsinger and Centre College center Wendie Austin - all two-time SCAC Players-of-the-Year - highlight an impressive list of past standouts named to the Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference's 15th Anniversary women's basketball team.

For complete release, click link:
http://www.scac-online.org/anniversary15
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: moseshightower on February 01, 2006, 09:45:35 AM
Great to see Jenna Smith on the Anniversary team, she didn't always put up huge numbers (except for steals) but she was undoubtedly a huge part of Trinity's run the past few seasons.  I would venture to say that she had an impact on the conference improving over the past few years as well. Kind of surprising that Depauw only placed two on the team, not that I would argue with Zondor and Argetsinger, I just think there were some great players on those Depauw teams that were unbeatable when they first joined the conference. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OUfan22 on February 06, 2006, 09:52:49 PM
Can anyone supply any details of the trinity games this weekend?  Is there an internal problem going on within the team that is affecting their playing?  Any comments?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bob_Lotts on February 06, 2006, 10:59:46 PM
Should be a good Friday night between OU/Trinity....OU can all but lock up 2nd place with a win and vice versa.  Both teams would like to stay either 2nd or 3rd to avoid the steamroller beter know as DePauw to the championship game of the tourney....
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: moseshightower on February 07, 2006, 10:17:13 AM
I think Trinity and Oglethorpe have all but locked up the 2/3 spot in some order.  Both have defeated Rhodes and Hendrix this year so barring a collapse by either team in these last two weekends, they both should be in the bracket opposite Depauw.  Should be a great SCAC tournament.  Both of these teams would have to face an opponent like Southwestern or Rose-Hulman early on (both of whom just beat Trinity).  On the other side, it should be another Rhodes-Hendrix classic in the first round of this tournament with the winner facing Depauw.  Rhodes has played Depauw close both times this year and with the home court and a litte more depth than last year.  The Lynx might have enough to pull off the huge upset.  That's still a few weeks away, should be interesting to see how things wrap up.  And can we go ahead and just give Liz Bondi Player of the Year honors?  She has won Player of the week honors 4 times and the SCAC tends to give the award to the top player on the #1 seed no matter what (see Argetsinger winning last year over Rohde, even though Rohde won the Jostens Trophy and was 1st team All-American).  The only other played in contention is Rebekah Forsyth who is probably the best player but with her team in 6th, she won't win.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 07, 2006, 11:21:35 AM
Quote from: OUfan22 on February 06, 2006, 09:52:49 PM
Can anyone supply any details of the trinity games this weekend?  Is there an internal problem going on within the team that is affecting their playing?  Any comments?

I don't have specifics, but it's a team which lost most of last year's leaders and which has a first-year coach (in the collegiate ranks, anyway).  SW is a rivalry game and the road trip from SA to Indiana is always difficult.  Don't forget they were tied with #5 (one-loss) DePauw in Greencastle until 7 or 8 seconds left in that game.   They lost to RHIT because they couldn't hit more than 50% of their free throws, and eight missed FTs in 19 chances didn't help in the three-point loss to Southwestern. 

Must be something in the water in SA; the Spurs can't hit their FTs, either.   ::)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on February 08, 2006, 07:39:25 AM
I think Bondi deserves POY honor this year.  She has helped her team win 21 games this season, thus far.  As for is it locked up, I don't think so.  If you recall past years, the POY hasn't always came from the top seed.  While it's up for debate who should have received the POY last year between Argetsinger/Rohde, you could have asked the DePauw team and Trinity team, and they would have said their respective players.  In past years, the SCAC didn't give much love to DePauw.  In the year they went to the final four, only one player was all-conference.  They were first in the conference (no conference tournament that year), but she didn't when POY.  The year following, DePauw was first (seeded) going into the conference tournament, but the POY didn't come from there team.  It was H. Francouer.  So, maybe R. Forsyth does have a chance.  If you remember right, Francouer's team was towards the lower end of the bracket too. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: moseshightower on February 09, 2006, 12:06:59 PM
I forgot about Francouer.  But I think her stats were far and away best in the league while I don't think that is the case for Forsyth.  I just think Forsyth is the best player in the league, I'm not trying to take anything away from Bondi and what she has done for her team.  Clearly, Depauw is tops in the conference and she is a huge part of that.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bob_Lotts on February 09, 2006, 12:11:19 PM
Oglethorpe ranked 2nd in first South region rankings of the year!!!!!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SCAC_fan34 on February 09, 2006, 01:19:02 PM
I hear the Dorough Delinquents are comming to the TU/OU Game tomorrow. It Should be a good one.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 10, 2006, 08:37:16 PM
Oglethorpe defeats Trinity, 82-77.  From the OU website:

The Oglethorpe women's basketball team beat Trinity University 82 - 77 on Friday night in front of a frenzied Dorough crowd prepping for Homecoming. The win lifted the Petrels to 19 - 3 for the season and a solid 9 - 2 in the SCAC, good for second place

The game between the Petrels and the Tigers opened with a frenetic pace and after only six minutes of clock time, the Petrels held a 22 - 18 advantage. The contest tightened a bit from there as both teams began to work into their offensive sets. Using a 6 - 0 run to close the half on 3 - pointers from Hannah Brooks and Erin Flynn, the Petrels led the Tigers 47 - 36 at the break.


Oglethorpe came out gunning in the second stanza and used a 12 - 6 run to take what would be their biggest lead of the night at 59 - 42. The Tigers responded with a steady run of their own and with two minutes remaining had trimmed the lead seven at to 79 - 72. Freshman Anna Findley, however, stepped to the line with 56 ticks remaining and calmly sank two free throws to ice the win.

All of Oglethorpe's starting five scored double digits in the game with Katie Kulavic and Hannah Brooks leading the way with 16 points apiece. Junior Erin Flynn added 15 points and 4 assists while Anna Findley scroed 11 points, grabbed 7 rebounds and dished out 4 assists. Biz Richmann rounded out the balanced Petrel attack with 14 points, 6 boards, 3 assists and 3 steals.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 12, 2006, 05:09:44 PM
Oglethorpe loses today to Southwestern (http://www.oglethorpe.edu/apps/athletics/recap.asp?ID=1109&yr=2006-2007&sp=BK&t=W), 83-79.  Obviously with wins over Trinity and now Oglethorpe the Lady Pirates are starting to gel. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on February 13, 2006, 01:47:31 PM
Fortunately, there was a loss to Millsaps sandwiched between those two big Southwestern wins.  The Millsaps victory moves them into a tie with Sewanee and Millsaps holds the tiebreaker, having won at Sewanee in the only meeting between the two teams this season. 

With a win at Hendrix this Friday, Millsaps would clinch a tournament berth if Sewanee falls at Southwestern.  It would also leave Millsaps in a position to pass Hendrix in the tournament seeding if the Majors could manage a victory at Rhodes on Sunday.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on February 19, 2006, 12:03:37 PM
Friday's results found Millsaps, Centre and Sewanee all losing on the road and today these three teams will be playing road games against teams that have beaten them once already.  The odds are that the standings will remain the same and I think that would put Millsaps in as the 8th seed since they have the tiebreaker over Sewanee. 

IF I'm not mistaken, Sewanee will be the 8th seed if Centre wins and the result is a 3-way tie at 3-11 so Centre can still be a factor but they have been eliminated from going to the SCAC Tournament.  If that doesn't happen then Millsaps goes to the tournament unless Sewanee wins at Southwestern and Millsaps loses at Rhodes.  Earlier in the year SW won the road game to Sewanee 59-56 and Rhodes won 78-63 at Millsaps.

One certainy is that the 8th seed will play 24-1 DePauw, a team that has seperated itself from the remainder of the league this season.  The men's tournament this year seems like it will be wide open but the women's side looks like DePauw all the way barring a major upset.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 19, 2006, 03:20:38 PM
Quote from: frank_ezelle on February 19, 2006, 12:03:37 PM
One certainy is that the 8th seed will play 24-1 DePauw, a team that has seperated itself from the remainder of the league this season.  The men's tournament this year seems like it will be wide open but the women's side looks like DePauw all the way barring a major upset.

Frank, remember that Trinity had DPU tied up coming down the stretch in Greencastle - I think until DPU hit a three with 7 seconds left.  IF the TU women can control the demons that have caused so many close losses this year, they might be able to give the nationally ranked Tigers another run for their money. DePauw has to be considered the prohibitive favorite ... but there is quite a rivalry between the two programs - funny things can happen.   Rhodes also played DePauw tight, losing 69-64 at DPU.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 19, 2006, 04:17:04 PM
Southwestern 55 Sewanee 45 FINAL
@Trinity 80, Centre 52 FINAL
Oglethorpe 48, @ Hendrix 40, halftime
Millsaps at Rhodes, underway

1. DePauw 14-0
2. Trinity 10-4
3. Oglethorpe 9-4*
4. Rhodes 8-5*
5. Southwestern 7-7
6. Hendrix 6-7*
7. Rose-Hulman 6-8
8. Millsaps 3-10*
9. Sewanee 3-11
10. Centre 2-12

* - excluding final game

I believe that with the win today, Trinity clinched the #2 seed.  If I understand the SCAC's tiebreaker correctly you start at the top of the seeds and go down until you find that one team did better than the other.  Oglethorpe and Trinity split their head-to-head matchup; both were 0-1 against DePauw, but Trinity was 1-0 against Rhodes while Oglethorpe was 1-1. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scaccommish on February 19, 2006, 06:06:31 PM
Seeds for tournament:
1)DePauw
2)Trinity
3)Oglethorpe
4)Rhodes
5)Southwestern
6)Rose-Hulman
7)Hendrix
8)Millsaps

Brackets for both men and women can be found at:
http://www.scac-online.org/bballtourney
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 19, 2006, 06:58:39 PM
The other two finals:  Oglethorpe 91, @ Hendrix 88
@Rhodes 83, Millsaps 73
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: moseshightower on February 20, 2006, 11:03:06 AM
Should be an interesting SCAC tournament.  The only certainty is Depauw winning their first round game.  I like Trinity to beat Hendrix but I've always thought of the Warriors as a little underachieving which could make this a better game than the normal 2/7 matchup.  Oglethorpe-Rose-Hulman should be very interesting, the first tournament play for many of these young Petrels and the last in the SCAC for the Engineers.  Does Forsyth have enough to pull this out?  I think so, and this is my upset of the first round.  Rhodes-Southwestern should be the best game, both teams have really improved as the season has gone on.  I like Rhodes here because of the home court, even if this game won't exactly be on their home court.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on February 20, 2006, 12:17:26 PM
Ron--Point well taken that DePauw has had some close games in the regular season and they aren't a lock to win the tournament.  However, my observation from watching the Trinity men's team over the last few years is that the top teams are more easily beaten or taken to the wire during the regular season.  When it is tournament time, I expect the best from the best and that makes them very hard to beat.  It should be interesting.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU_radio_guy on February 20, 2006, 02:26:17 PM
WGRE has announced that it will again carry 13 of the 14 games of the SCAC tournament.  Ten will air on its webstream and 3 on Free Teamline.  WMHD of Rose-Hulman will carry their women's contest with Oglethorpe. 

The link to all the information (including game previews) and the broadcast schedule can be accessed at www.depauw.edu/univ/wgre/scac.asp (http://www.depauw.edu/univ/wgre/scac.asp).  This is also the link to access the webstream this weekend. 

Please email wgresports@depauw.edu with any questions or feedback.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dirty_South on February 20, 2006, 07:01:36 PM
How about some bracket predictions???

Trinity over Hendrix
RHIT over Oglethorpe (Upset special)
DePauw over Millsaps
Southwestern over Rhodes

Trinity over RHIT
DePauw over Southwestern (In a very close game....just couldn't pick agianst DU here)

DePauw over Trinity
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scaccommish on February 21, 2006, 08:42:10 PM
I'm sure most of you who frequent this board already have this link, but in case you can't be in Memphis, you can find links to all the audio broadcasts plus game stories, box scores and much more as it all plays out:
http://www.scac-online.org/bballtourney

And if you are going to Memphis, there are directions to both Rhodes and to St. Benedict (Friday women's site) on the site (tournament information)

Looking forward to a great tournament.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 22, 2006, 05:03:39 PM
Oglethorpe is ranked #5 in the latest South regional rankings.  They might have a shot at a pool C with a couple of W's in the tourney.  Their QoWI (10.636, 21st) is higher than I thought. 

Obviously DePauw is expected to get the AQ; if not, they will definitely get a C bid.  Their QoWI is #1 after Sunday's games. 

Anyone else who wants in has to win the tournament, unlikely though it may be. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dirtymags25 on February 23, 2006, 03:42:39 PM
Dirty South,
    If you want to pick an upset special then have the backbone to make the Southwestern over Depauw pick instead of playing it safe in the first round. That being said, I have to adamantly disagree with your pick for the upset special. I know Forsyth didn't play in the regular season game, but
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dirty_South on February 24, 2006, 08:33:54 AM

1) RHIT will give them all they can handle and more. That is a bold statement considering OU is the three seed and fifth in the south region.

2) Southwestern has had a great second half of the season and I look for them to win at least the first round game. But DePauw is so much better than the rest of league I just do not see them losing in the tourney.

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 24, 2006, 11:38:15 AM
For anyone who may be visiting here for the first time:  ALL SCAC tournament games will be webcast via a combination of WGRE (DePauw radio), WMHD (Rose-Hulman radio), and Teamline.  No charge for any, including Teamline.

The quality of RHIT and DePauw broadcasts is excellent.  I listened to some games last year and they do a good job even when covering two other teams.

Information on the SCAC Tourney broadcast site:

http://www.scac-online.org/bballtourney/
http://www.scac-online.org/bballtourney/listenlive.htm
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 24, 2006, 03:16:23 PM
Close game between Hendrix and Trinity ... 53-48 Trinity with about 11 minutes left.  Hendrix led most of the first half. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 24, 2006, 03:43:06 PM
Trinity 75, Hendrix 66, final. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 24, 2006, 04:52:37 PM
RHIT trails Oglethorpe at the half, 42-35. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 24, 2006, 05:51:36 PM
Oglethorpe defeats Rose-Hulman, 84-64.

RHIT finishes 13-12, the first-ever winning season by their women's basketball team.  Rebekah Forsythe set the all-time SCAC rebounding mark but left early in the second half with an injury.  RHIT lost another player to injury in the second half.

The Stormy Petrels improve to 21-5, face Trinity tomorrow.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dirtymags25 on February 24, 2006, 06:04:20 PM
DirytSouth,
      Rose-Hulman will give OU all they can handle? Oglethorpe won by 20! OU led the entire game! Rose-Hulman played hard and closed the lead to 3 at one point, but they just couldn't run with the Petrels, just like I predicted. Next time you want to pick a special; leave the upsets alone and go order breakfast at Denny's.
         
Congratulations to Rebekah Forsyth on breaking the SCAC rebounding
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU_radio_guy on February 24, 2006, 06:42:31 PM
Quote from: dirtymags25 on February 24, 2006, 06:04:20 PM
Next time you want to pick a special; leave the upsets alone and go order breakfast at Denny's.

Well it wasn't like Rebekah Forsythe was hurt or anything.  jeez.  She missed a chunk of the game because she rolled an ankle.  She wasn't really the same when she came back.  20 points is 20 points, I know.  But it wasn't like OU was playing a JV team.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: moseshightower on February 25, 2006, 10:32:48 AM
So, no upsets in the first round.  For today's game, I'll take Trinity to beat Oglethorpe in a close game but experience wins out.  And just like in last year's tournament, I don't think Rhodes will have enough in their legs to stay with Depauw, setting up an all-tiger final for the fourth straight year.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU_radio_guy on February 25, 2006, 12:00:10 PM
I think the first game depends on how healthy Kulavic is for OU.  Apparently, sources close to WGRE say (sorry, I always wanted to say that) that she also rolled an ankle yesterday. 

The first time these two teams played, it was a barnburner.  I think it will be again.  If Oglethorpe turns it over less than 15 times and they get more than 12-13 from Kulavic, they have a great shot.  Or Anna Findlay can go completely bananas like she did yesterday.  That'll probably work too.

Rhodes may not have the legs to stay with DePauw, but they'll sure have about 1,000 Mallory Maniacs on their side.  DPU has struggled in hostile environments this year (see @ College, Rhodes and @ University, Oglethorpe 1st half).  Rhodes was the last team to have a shot at the end to win against DePauw.  The crowd will help Rhodes, but the fact that only Lindsay Houin played more than 25 minutes for DPU yesterday will (I hope) be enough for a win. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopsfan11 on February 25, 2006, 07:43:21 PM
Does Oglethorpe have a shot at a pool C bid with the loss to Trinity tonight?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 25, 2006, 08:05:29 PM
I think OU is on the bubble and maybe on the outside looking in.  They were regionally ranked before the loss, but 19-5 in-region isn't a lock for a Pool C.  Going to depend on who else loses. 

Worst-case scenario for OU would be for Trinity to win tomorrow.  That would give a Pool C to DePauw and make it that much harder for OU.  Seriously doubt the AA would take three teams from the SCAC. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 25, 2006, 08:34:23 PM
DPU 18, Rhodes 8 12:13 left in the first half.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 25, 2006, 08:50:29 PM
DPU leads by 18 with 4 minutes left in the first half.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 25, 2006, 08:57:57 PM
DPU 42 Rhodes 25

Rebounds DPU 29 RC 13.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU_radio_guy on February 25, 2006, 09:01:51 PM
So much for that thing I said about hostile environments.  A raucous Rhodes student section hasn't bothered DPU one bit.  DPU is playing well.  They've been great defensively.  It's been a pretty physical game to this point, for what its worth.  Not sure if it hurts or helps either team, but Bridget Bailey shows the way with 11 for DPU.   Ashley Farrell with 11 for Rhodes.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 25, 2006, 09:51:35 PM
Looks like Rhodes is keeping it respectable in the second half but still trail 83-71 with 1:25 left.   DPU starters have gotten plenty of rest. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on February 25, 2006, 10:03:03 PM
I've been working all day on Millsaps photos which brings me to this offer:

At the tournament this weekend the parents of a Southwestern player stopped me and told me how much they liked the photo of their son that was on the Millsaps website.  I told them to email me and I'd send them a copy of the original file.

I may regret saying this, but there may be other parents/players/SID's out there who would like a couple of the photos from games played at Millsaps.  I'll be glad to email the photos files to folks who request them as long as it doesn't get out of hand.  On the photo website there is a "Contact Member" button.  That sends an email to me at frankezelle@yahoo.com.  It would help if I got the information I needed all at once--namely the team, men's or women's game, and the photo name that appears at the bottom of the photo.

Here's the link for Millsaps photos:  http://photobucket.com/albums/v283/Millsaps_Majors/

I can't promise instant replies because I'm in the middle of fixing all of the Millsaps basketball CD's and then I have to get started on spring sports, but I will get the photos out to you (and in case you are wondering, there is no charge).

Frank.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 25, 2006, 10:12:34 PM
Quote from: frank_ezelle on February 25, 2006, 10:03:03 PM
I've been working all day on Millsaps photos which brings me to this offer:

At the tournament this weekend the parents of a Southwestern player stopped me and told me how much they liked the photo of their son that was on the Millsaps website.  I told them to email me and I'd send them a copy of the original file.

I may regret saying this, but there may be other parents/players/SID's out there who would like a couple of the photos from games played at Millsaps.  I'll be glad to email the photos files to folks who request them as long as it doesn't get out of hand.  On the photo website there is a "Contact Member" button.  That sends an email to me at frankezelle@yahoo.com.  It would help if I got the information I needed all at once--namely the team, men's or women's game, and the photo name that appears at the bottom of the photo.

Here's the link for Millsaps photos:  http://photobucket.com/albums/v283/Millsaps_Majors/

I can't promise instant replies because I'm in the middle of fixing all of the Millsaps basketball CD's and then I have to get started on spring sports, but I will get the photos out to you (and in case you are wondering, there is no charge).

Frank.

You should have requested a $20 contribution to the Frank Ezelle/ Millsaps Majors Educational Foundation to fund need-based academic scholarships at Millsaps. ;)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scaccommish on February 26, 2006, 11:50:02 AM
The 2005-06 All-SCAC women's team is posted:

http://www.scac-online.org/bballtourney
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on February 26, 2006, 05:17:02 PM
DPU wins!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 26, 2006, 06:31:27 PM
Pat and company have predicted that DePauw, Oglethorpe, and Trinity (in that order) will all get bids tonight.  Trinity is definitely on the bubble, moreso than Oglethorpe who from their projection is solidly in. 

Trinity has given DePauw its two toughest games of the year (with the exception of the loss at WashU early in the season).  Perhaps that, combined with 2 defeats of Oglethorpe in three tries, will carry enough weight with the committee to give the SCAC a third playoff team. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopsfan11 on February 26, 2006, 10:53:17 PM
Congrats to the SCAC - three teams in!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: airball1 on February 27, 2006, 12:13:01 AM
I guess Oglethorpe's out of conference schedule really helped. Victories over Maryville, Bridgewater,  and Chapman who are all going dancing. It also is a reflection of what the decision makers think of the SCAC. Credit goes to Trinity who needed a strong conference tournament showing to make it in. OU needed the W over Rose-Holman.
So Trinity goes with an ever improving front line,  Depauw goes with the complete package and OU heads to the Big Dance with 13 wings and it's cast of freshmen. GO SCAC!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: mcmfan on February 27, 2006, 12:08:14 PM
You guys in the SCAC feeling good about getting three teams into the post-season obviously haven't looked at the brackets to see what the selection committee did to your neighbors in the ASC.  We got three teams, too, and they all play each other (and Trinity) this weekend.   So much for "three" teams in the playoffs!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: moseshightower on February 27, 2006, 12:58:54 PM
not sure why the word three is in quotes, but on to the actual content of the post, it is unfortunate that, just like in football, the NCAA creates a Texas championship.  However, considering how Hardin-Simmons limped into the playoffs with their recent results, you should just be thankful that you got three teams into the tourney.  And if you look at the draw, you will see that they have it set up for a potential Oglethorpe-Depauw second round game, so they weren't much nicer to the SCAC.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on February 27, 2006, 03:49:31 PM
Hello Moseshightower:  It is not exactly like I want Maryville to "get" to play DePauw, in their own gym at that, but the Maryville team Oglethorpe beat early in the season has been replaced by a more potent group.   Several hurt people are well and several freshmen have figured out the deal with college ball. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: mcmfan on February 28, 2006, 03:12:06 PM
At least you guys get some variety in the first round. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: moseshightower on February 28, 2006, 07:09:17 PM
You're right McMFan, I would guess losing to Trinity in the playoffs would get old.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on March 01, 2006, 10:38:32 PM
Well y'all SCAC fans, I did not see Oglethorpe beat Maryville in November but I did just see Maryville blow them out of the gym, 93 - 61.  Oglethorpe had been averaging 82 points. 

I think the thing for DePauw to do is assume this is an aberration.  After all, we all know the GSAC is weak and the SCAC is not!

Go Scots!


Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TheSilentFarter on March 02, 2006, 01:36:12 AM
I'm going to go ahead and STATE that Depauw will whipe the floor with Maryville.  Congratulations, Maryville played an outstanding game and was on fire the whole game, they definately were the best team out there tonight.  But you have to give Oglethorpe credit.  They were picked to finish 10th in the SCAC and they made it to the big dance, with 4 of the 5 starters being Freshman.  Get ready cause they'll be around for another 3 years.  We actually will have all starting 5 back next year, along with a junior who was lost at the very beginning of the season because of injury.  Again congratulations to Maryville, but you tournament ends in Greencastle.  Liz Bondi, Bridgett Bailey, Gretchen Hael and company are too much for the Scots- and they wern't fired up enough for the game, The Scots 7 fan cheering section started the we want Depauw chant with like 6 minutes to go.  Represent for the SCAC Depauw and send these girls packin back to Murville with their bagpipes between their legs.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on March 02, 2006, 12:33:47 PM
Silent:   Actually I thought Oglethorpe had and will have a really good team.  I look forward to Maryville-Oglethorpe games for several years, as the Scots also are a young team, losing no starters next year.

That was the best I have seen Maryville play.  And I have not seen DePauw.   Knowing the MC coaches, there will not be a problem with being ready.  Good enough?  We'll see, I imagine.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on March 02, 2006, 12:46:25 PM
Maybe both coaches were just being polite to the reporter, but Coach Settles said he was not so sure DePauw would "whip the floor with Maryville."  Here is the link:

http://www.thedailytimes.com/sited/story/html/231514
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 02, 2006, 01:16:02 PM
I think that Maryville will see the following differences between OU and DPU:

I assume that Maryville will keep it respectable but fully expect DePauw to win. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPULefty22 on March 02, 2006, 03:48:49 PM
The fact that the Lady Scots appear to have plenty of height is my chief concern. Natalie Munday had a big game down low and Maryville scored 50 points in the paint. But like you said, BfB, that kind of business isn't going to fly against the Tigers.

If the Scots can get Bondi and DePauw's other solid post defenders (Lindsay Houin, Bridget Bailey) in foul trouble, I think they might have a chance to keep it close. But I just think DePauw has too much and should be able to use their depth to their advantage, wearing out Maryville late.

Also, there's that key factor about the Tigers being unbeaten at home...

For those interested, the game will be broadcast live Saturday night, 7 PM Eastern, over at www.wgre.org (http://www.wgre.org).
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on March 02, 2006, 11:50:36 PM
DePauw may win but not because they will "be able to use their depth to their advantage, wearing out Maryville late."  Maryville plays 10 people about equal minutes and is a deep team, without much dropoff among the 10.  The 10 include 4 big post players.   Natalie Munday has just in the past month figured out how good she can be; she is a freshman who was injured and did not play much early in the year.
Andrea Plemons, a guard, was out of basketball for three years and has just now got her game back.

Then again y'all might be right. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 03, 2006, 12:23:34 AM
Travel safely, Tiger fans!!!  (Both venues!!!) :)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 03, 2006, 10:03:18 AM
Given the continued failure of the San Antonio daily to cover this weekend's TU games (either one), here's some reading about the teams involved in Abilene:

Here is the Abilene Reporter-News (http://www.reporter-news.com/abil/sp_lc_howard_payne_univ/article/0,1874,ABIL_8788_4510712,00.html) writeup on HPU-Trinity (not much), as well as a story from the Brownwood Bulletin (http://www.brownwoodbulletin.com/articles/2006/03/02/sports/sports010.txt). 
Here is the ARN writeup for HSU (http://www.reporter-news.com/abil/sp_lc_hardin_simmons_univ/article/0,1874,ABIL_8786_4510723,00.html) and another for McMurry (http://www.reporter-news.com/abil/sp_lc_mcmurry_univ/article/0,1874,ABIL_8787_4510721,00.html).
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 03, 2006, 06:18:49 PM
HPU is broadcasting the game. (http://www.tsrnsports.com/Broadcast/Broad-U-HowardPayne.htm)

Trinity 14, HPU 13 midway through the first half. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 03, 2006, 06:42:02 PM
It sure is hard to stay in a game when you are called for a foul just about EVERY TIME HPU misses a shot.   HPU is up by 11 and has shot 20+ more FTs than Trinity.   At the half it's HPU 38, Trinity 27 as HPU outscored TU 14-2 from the five minute mark.  ASC PoTY Meia Daniels has 25. 

Waiting for other stats. 

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 03, 2006, 06:54:15 PM
Stats:

FG, HPU 9-24, TU 10-27
FT, HPU 17-26, TU 7-10 (OK, only 16 more FTs)
REB, TU 22, HPU 17
TO, HPU 4 TU 11
STL, HPU 6 TU 4

And now I have to go to rehearsal.  Good luck, ladies ... sounds like you'll need it. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on March 03, 2006, 11:39:33 PM
Well maybe now that the Maryville (TN) men have dispatched a top tier SCAC team, the Lady Scots can do the same.  None of the experts saw this MC-Trinity rout coming, so why should we believe them about Maryville- DePaul?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dsc on March 04, 2006, 09:46:42 AM
Quote from: moseshightower on February 27, 2006, 12:58:54 PM

...considering how Hardin-Simmons limped into the playoffs with their recent results,

...at least the Cowgirls made it to the second round... ;D

Signed:  "Limping Hardin-Simmons Fan"  :-\

Go HSU Cowgirls...again!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPULefty22 on March 04, 2006, 09:58:00 PM
Quote from: TheSilentFarter on March 02, 2006, 01:36:12 AM
I'm going to go ahead and STATE that Depauw will whipe the floor with Maryville. 

Well, that's about exactly what happened at the Neal Fieldhouse tonight. 86-58 the final score, DePauw never trails on their way to their 27th straight win. Four Tigers in double figures led by Liz Bondi's 19 (to go with 13 boards) and Suzy Doughty's 17 (on 6-6 shooting and 5-6 from the line). Natalie Munday, the freshman post player for the Lady Scots, was a non-factor - 6 points, 2 rebounds, and 5 fouls in 19 minutes of play.

DePauw shoots 56% from the field and 8-14 from beyond the arc. If they play like they did tonight on both ends, they're going to be real scary in this tournament.

It's not like Maryville is a bad basketball team. They aren't. They're a 23-win team for a reason (well, a couple of them - *cough*weakschedule*cough*). I was impressed with the play of their guards, particularly Andrea Plemons and Melissa Uner. But DePauw just boatraced them from the get-go and never looked back. Very impressive effort for the Tigers on their way to the Sweet 16!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU_radio_guy on March 04, 2006, 09:58:25 PM
Quote from: scottiedoug on March 03, 2006, 11:39:33 PM
Well maybe now that the Maryville (TN) men have dispatched a top tier SCAC team, the Lady Scots can do the same.  None of the experts saw this MC-Trinity rout coming, so why should we believe them about Maryville- DePaul?

Good one.  DePaul.  I've never heard that before.   :D :D :D Gave it a good run for a couple minutes or so...

86-58 the final BTW.  Liz Bondi with 19 & 13.  Foul trouble for the bigs for MC, and Liz Bondi went crazy.  DPU also 8-14 from 3.  
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on March 05, 2006, 12:08:13 AM
Ouch!  See you next year, with all starters back.  No argument about the weak schedule part, except the non-GSAC schedule was ok.  Scots really should be better next year.  I hope DePauw runs the table now!  Good luck.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU_radio_guy on March 05, 2006, 08:47:58 PM
Well, it's official.  Wheaton, Wash U., and Hope are all coming to Greencastle this weekend.  I'm already fired up for the Wash U/Hope game, that should be a dandy.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 05, 2006, 08:59:58 PM
Dang it, I was hoping DPU could take out the ASC rep this weekend.  Good luck Tigers, and represent!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on March 06, 2006, 04:47:56 PM
Here is a link to an article in the Maryville paper with nice things said about the DePauw team by Scots' coach Dee Bell.

Good luck!

http://www.thedailytimes.com/sited/story/html/231787
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: kelley on March 07, 2006, 04:59:08 PM
This weekend will be great games between Wheaton & Depauw, then hopfully between Depauw and Washington U, Mo.

Quote from: BedtimeForBonzo on March 12, 2005, 12:24:50 AM
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Pat said on the d3hoops.com broadcast that there were a lot of strange calls that were pretty evenly distributed.  He's just a bit more neutral in this than either of us <IMG SRC="http://discus.d3hoops.com/discus/clipart/happy.gif" ALT=":-)" BORDER=0>

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Tara did score nearly twice her season average (16.7) tonight on 13-of-21 shooting.  That may be her season high.    

By the way:  the official <a href="http://www.rmc.edu/athletics/basketball/womens/BBstats/2005/RMC29.HTM" target=_top>box score</a> is up.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: kelley on March 07, 2006, 05:06:11 PM
By the way, Depauw will win it all.....
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: etg on March 07, 2006, 06:06:27 PM
(El Tea Gray--re: HSU Cowgirls)

Bonzo,
Where is your Texas Spirit   ???
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 09, 2006, 06:58:09 PM
D3hoopsNet, under contract from NCAAsports.com, will be broadcasting the entire DePauw sectional. Coverage starts a half-hour before tipoff and includes a preview of all four sectionals, plus in-game "live look-ins" at other sectionals in progress.

Gordon Mann on the call, with WGRE's own Wes Anderson joining for the sectional opener.

http://www.d3hoops.com/audio/
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: AndersDY on March 12, 2006, 03:16:48 AM
You stay classy, DePauw fans...

Is that the norm for SCAC crowds? Yikes  :o
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hopefan on March 14, 2006, 01:36:54 PM
I don't get it....  I did not attend the Hope DePauw women's game last weekend, but what I'm reading from the Hope fans who were there confuses me.  In the 4 years prior to this year, we had a family friend who played for Trinity, Tx, also a member of the SCAC.  Each year Trinity would come up to Indiana and play DePauw and Rose Hulman. and my wife and I would travel from St Louis to see the games.  The game vs DePauw was always huge, usually playing a major role in determining the Conference Champion.  I never witnessed, or can't remember witnessing, the kind of behavior discussed over on the MIAA pages?  Someone from DePauw - what happened, what generated the change?  Are the charges real in DePauw supporters' minds.

I have the upmost respect for both schools  -  I always like to hear both sides of the story  -  I wish DePauw would respond.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Cowboy J on March 15, 2006, 01:16:09 AM
I have posted a response ... on the MIAA women's site ... to the many Hope fans' statements about the DePauw crowds at last week's sectional. Another DePauw supporter recently spoke there, too. (And was ridiculed for having done so.) So, for those interested in the view from a DePauw set of eyes, you might want to take a gander. I just couldn't sit back any longer.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Flying Dutch Fan on March 15, 2006, 08:46:37 AM
Quote from: hopefan on March 14, 2006, 01:36:54 PM
I don't get it....  I did not attend the Hope DePauw women's game last weekend, but what I'm reading from the Hope fans who were there confuses me.  In the 4 years prior to this year, we had a family friend who played for Trinity, Tx, also a member of the SCAC.  Each year Trinity would come up to Indiana and play DePauw and Rose Hulman. and my wife and I would travel from St Louis to see the games.  The game vs DePauw was always huge, usually playing a major role in determining the Conference Champion.  I never witnessed, or can't remember witnessing, the kind of behavior discussed over on the MIAA pages?  Someone from DePauw - what happened, what generated the change?  Are the charges real in DePauw supporters' minds.

I have the upmost respect for both schools  -  I always like to hear both sides of the story  -  I wish DePauw would respond.

DePauw's lack of response is exactly what has upset the Hope fans.  Students getting out of control is part of every college.  The lack of any effort by DePauw to stop it was what bothered us all. 

Cowboy J finally posted something encouraging - in stating that DePauw fans were upset by some of this as well.  That helps alleviate my concerns somewhat - as prior to that it seemed the lack of anyone saying anything might indicate that this was just the way it is in Greencastle - and was accepted.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 15, 2006, 11:30:25 AM
FWIW there have been very few posts from the DePauw faithful here all year. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Gold on March 15, 2006, 12:26:13 PM
To SCAC members,

Over the eight years of DePauw's membership in the conference I know you are recognize that DePauw is a first-class institution and does things right when hosting major events.

As is usually the case when people want to make a situtation more dramatic they leave out simple things like the facts.

DePauw and NCAA officials addressed the students who were responsible and the rest of the student body policed itself. Did some profanity come out of the stands? Yes. What the bad behavior addressed? Yes.

Tigers, congratulations on a great season..... Your performance represented the SCAC well!



Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: carlweathers on May 02, 2006, 04:15:33 PM
Former Trinity coach Becky Geyer will be the new head coach at Jacksonville State University in Jacksonville, AL.  JSU is a member of the Ohio Valley Conference.

Congratulations to Coach Geyer.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on May 04, 2006, 12:06:54 AM
Thanks, Carl.  Here's the press release (http://www.jsugamecocksports.com/article.asp?articleid=78129).  She takes over a squad that was 11-17 last year and only made the OVC tourney three of the last six years, going 1-3 in the tourney during that time. 

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on May 06, 2006, 09:48:02 AM
Congrats to Becky Geyer.

In other sports news...

It looks like Liz Bondi is having her way again - this time in the tennis world.  Going into the tournament, Bondi is ranked #1 in singles and #1 in doubles.

Scary thing learned during the SCAC Bball tournament, she'll be back for another year.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on July 25, 2006, 03:51:17 PM
Just a note that there has been a coaching change at Millsaps.  Coach Robin Jefferies resigned in late May or June to take the head coaching job at Spring Hill College in Mobile. 

It was announced today that the new coach will be Mary Bolton.  Coach Bolton had a series of coaching jobs, both as an assistant and as a head coach at the high school and college level during the 1990's.  She took a break from coaching to serve 4 years as mayor of McLain, Mississippi.  Trivia buffs of women's basketball might recognize McLain as the home town of Ruthie Bolton, a former WNBA star and a member of the US Olympic team.  Coach Bolton is the older sister of Ruthie and Mae Ola Bolton, a college star at Auburn.
Title: 2006-2007 SCAC Season Previews
Post by: Rhodesian on October 04, 2006, 02:51:06 AM
I'm new to these boards and to college ball at the D3 level. If anybody cruises through and sees this why don't you add your thoughts on the team or teams you will be following? I'll be following Rhodes.;)

I can report that Rhodes team looks to have improved themselves with a strong recruiting class of about 8 girls, 6 first years and two transfers, plus the return from knee surgery of another senior. It's a tall team with 5 girls listed at 6' or better.

Who else has a report?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 04, 2006, 05:02:13 PM
Rather than starting a new topic, I took the liberty to merge your Previews discussion into the standard SCAC board.

The SCAC had a good year, especially with Oglethorpe showing so well.  The Lady Petrels cannot sneak up on anyone this year.

When the schedules are completely posted, then we can see how many games we have amongst the SCAC and the ASC.  I know that UUMHB catches all of the Texas SCAC schools.

McMurry is going to the Southwestern Tourney over the Holidays, and they play UW-Stout in the first round.  (With the new geographic regons (http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=3880.338) counting as "in-Region", the Stout game is an in-region game!)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on October 23, 2006, 07:30:48 PM
It's that time of year again!!!  Just wondering what pre-season predictions are out there?  The SCAC is loaded with talent this year, which should create a lot of interesting matchups throughout the year. 

My picks:
1. DePauw
2. Trinity
3. Oglethorpe
4. Southwestern
5. Rhodes
6. Hendrix
7. Austin
8. Millsaps
9. Sewanee
10. Centre

I think that the top 5 teams are very interchangeable (even though I'm putting the bulls-eye on my Tigers back early).  DePauw and Trinity have been living at the top of the conference for the last 5+ years.  Will there be a change of tide this year??  While there's always a possiblity, both teams come back reloaded for the 06-07 season.  DePauw loses only two seniors from a team that finished 29-2.  The Tigers from Indiana, ranked 6th in the preseason, return 4 starters to there 06-07 team, including SCAC Player-of-the-Year Liz Bondi, 2nd Team All-SCAC Doughty, 3rd Team Haehl, and honorable mention Bailey.  With a solid supporting cast, and from what I hear, a recruiting class that should make an immediate impact, the Tigers should continue to pace the top of the SCAC.  The other Tigers from Texas also return a solid nucleus.  The big question for Trinity will be how well they replace Farrar, who did a little bit of everything for them.  Oglethorpe returns most of their players as well, and with a years experience under their belts, the skys the limit.  I think Southwestern will suprise a lot of teams this year, and Rhodes will continue to be tough.   

I'd love to hear other peoples thoughts on what might happen this year.  Anyone seen any of teams play yet?  Any newcombers that should make a big impact? 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on November 05, 2006, 09:04:21 AM
This is pretty much a dead board, but maybe somebody knows when the SCAC PreSeason polls is set to come out? 

SCAC teams in the Polls:

D3Hoops.com
DePauw - #3
Trinity - #22
Oglethorpe - #45

WBCA/USA Today Poll
DePauw - #5
Trinity - #35

D-III News Poll
DePauw - #6

I'm a little bit surprised that both Trinity and Oglethorpe didn't find there way higher in the polls.  It's amazing still what litte respect coaches (voters) give the SCAC teams. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: airball1 on November 05, 2006, 09:09:12 PM
Coaches should receive ballots this week and respond by the end of the week. The earlier fan's summation is pretty good. DePauw should be the odds on favorite. Trinity and Oglethorpe basically return the same teams. Southwestern should improve. Watch out for Rhodes! They are loading up. Austin is a newcomer and did ok in its previous conference. Hendrix has a good point but lost some key people as well as Sewanee. Millsaps lost Roser and a couple of others but have a new coach and Centre is building. KEY GAMES: Trinity plays DePauw away once and Oglethorpe once at home and Rhodes & Southwestern twice. DePauw plays at Rhodes Trinity & SW Home and OU home and away. OU plays Trinity & SW away, DePauw home & away and Rhodes home and away. Schedule advantages this year lean toward Depauw and they are also the best team. They will be hard to catch. Southwestern upset both Trinity and OU last season and they will be improved. And watch out for Rhodes. They have DePauw at home and they are hard to beat in Memphis.
Should be an interesting year.
Title: Closed Scrimmages?
Post by: wbballfan10 on November 07, 2006, 08:58:19 PM
"Here's some scoop...Trinity had a closed scrimmage on Saturday vs. St. Mary's and Coach Kielsmeier from Howard Payne showed up...Is that legal???"
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: moseshightower on November 08, 2006, 12:08:07 PM
That is interesting.  I think that's illegal.  Trinity had its second scrimmage last night against those UT Longhorns.  A 78-29 loss, similar result to two years ago when both programs were in the top 10 in the country.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on November 08, 2006, 12:35:39 PM
If its a closed scrimmage, then no one should have been able to get in (my question would be were parents and other Trinity fans at the game).  A scrimmage cannot be promoted in any way... so how did HPU and St. Mary's know when the scrimmage was going to take place? 
Title: Re: Closed Scrimmages?
Post by: The Departed on November 14, 2006, 03:55:22 PM
An action like this from HPU doesn't surprise me at all...On to the game Friday, any predictions? 

If Trinity can shut down Meia Daniels, HPU is done.  Although this is no easy job, Trinity has some phenomenal on the ball defenders and plays excellent team defense.  On the offensive end, expect people who were roll players for TU last year to step up into big time starting rolls this season.  You heard it here first, by the end of the year Trinity will be regarded as one of the top 5 teams in the country.  As for the HSU game on Saturday, this could be a tough one for the Tigers, especially only 24 hours after a tough game in Brownwood.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on November 14, 2006, 09:14:01 PM
DePauw finally has new 06-07 roster up.

Looks like they added some size with their eight new freshman:
Kelsey Flanagan  5-8 Guard
Tina Frierson  5-7  Guard
Katie O'Connor  5-11 Guard
K.C. Stoll  5-11 Guard
Kristin Barrow  6-1 Forward
Jenna Fernandez  5-11 Forward
Emily Marshall  6-1 Forward
Meghan Warner 6-0 Forward

DePauw tips off this weekend vs. #10 Washington University.  DePauw has never beaten WashU, so it will be exciting to see whether the Tigers have what it takes this season to get over the hump.  I'm sure the DePauw girls from St. Louis (Bailey, Lowes, Fernandez, Stoll, and Marshall) would like to take this one home for bragging rights.

And The Departed, I would agree that we could see two SCAC schools in the top 5/10 this season.  Should be a great year in the SCAC!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Borat...NOT on November 15, 2006, 02:48:41 PM
Anyone have preseason predictions on the SCAC??? I think it's going to shake out this way

1. Trinity
2. DePauw
3. Oglethorpe
4. Hendrix
5. Rhodes
6. Austin College
7. Southwestern
8. Sewanee
9. Millsaps
10. Centre

Trinity and DePauw are pretty interchangable from my point of view.  Not knowing very much about the new DePauw freshman, has anyone had a chance to see them play?  I've heard Trinity has 4 freshman, only 1 of which will see any playing time at the beginning of the season but they are all tall also, the shortest being 5'9". 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on November 15, 2006, 09:49:38 PM
DePauw has played in two scrimmages, in which I had the opportunity to watch one of them.  They won their first game (against a D3 program) easily, and in a tighter competition, beat out a quality D2 program.  They have one of their big kids out right recovering from surgery, but stepping up to fill that void are a couple of freshman and sophomores.  I'm not sure how much room there will be in the back court in having any of the freshman playing this season when you return both point guards from last year (2nd and 3rd team All-SCAC last year), and four guards who either started or played in all 30 games last year (unless they were injured).  Now... that's not to say the freshman that were brought in aren't talented! ;D

And Borat... I'd have to disagree with you in when you said that Millsaps is "garbage" (mentioned on the other message board - Also, they lost to DePauw in the SCAC tournament, not Trinity).  They were VERY young last year, and their best players were freshman.  That can only mean good things for them this year, especially with a year under their belt and a new coach.  They may not finish in the top of the conference... but with the quality of teams there are in the SCAC this year, that's not saying that much.  The SCAC is one of the strongest conferences in the country this year. 

Here were my picks for SCAC (obviously I am showing bias towards DePauw)
1. DePauw
2. Trinity
3. Oglethorpe
4. Southwestern
5. Rhodes
6. Hendrix
7. Austin
8. Millsaps
9. Sewanee
10. Centre

It's good to finally see this message board alive.  Any information on how Trinity's looked in scrimmages.. Impact of freshman.  Other schools in the SCAC?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: d3bballfollower on November 16, 2006, 03:28:27 PM
lookout for Southwestern...Coach Ruder has been there a year now and the returners should have her system down pretty well...with Azizi and George down low and a few guards who can shoot the ball, including a transfer who I heard can shoot lights out, they will be a lot better than last year if they can put it all together...they will be a tough matup for anyone except for maybe depauw
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Borat...NOT on November 16, 2006, 03:43:25 PM
One of Trinity's freshman is still inactive because she played soccer all fall.  The soccer team just lost and she should be joining the team in the near future.  There is a freshman forward, Carlee Culver who saw over 20 minutes of playing time in the Exhibition game against Texas.  She hit two threes but it's hard to judge from a game like that.  There is another freshman, Scheneeka McNair who looks to have alot of potential.  I think she is more of a project though, she is very raw and probably won't contribute much this year but could be a force down the road. 

Other notes from the exhibition game at Texas.  Trinity played much better in the second half.  Texas looked to be playing their normal rotation for the entire game and Trinity came out more aggressive.  They looked very intimidated in the first half and were down by almost 40 points at half, in the second half they were only outscored by around 10.  Kate Dawson was very aggressive taking the ball to the basket and Krista Prato Matthews looked as quick as the Texas posts.  If she can consistently play like she did at times last season (scoring 27 with 14 boards in one game), the offense might be better than the defense. 

As for Millsaps, I agree with your points about them being young and having a new coach and such...it also looks like they have a new sophomore transfer who could contribute, however you are still picking them to be worse than all but 2 teams in the SCAC.  Garbage may have been too strong of a term for the quality of their team but I don't know how you can argue they are a decent team and then pick them to be 8th place in the conference, the same place they finished last year and late year they only won 7 or 8 games total.  t
Title: 2006-07 SCAC Predicted Order of Finish
Post by: scaccommish on November 16, 2006, 05:22:41 PM
DePauw women huge favorite to repeat in 2006-07 SCAC Basketball Title chase

SUWANEE, Ga. - It will be difficult to duplicate the success the Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference experienced last season. The league sent a record-tying three women's basketball teams to the NCAA Division III Tournament, including SCAC champion DePauw University who made it all the way to the Elite Eight.

With four starters returning, including last year's SCAC Player-of-the-Year Liz Bondi, it is no surprise that DePauw is once again the favorite to win the league championship. The DU Tigers, who received nine of 10 first-place votes (99 points total) from the league's sports information directors, have won or shared the SCAC title six times since joining the league in 1998-99.

For the complete release:
http://www.scac-online.org/basketball_womens (http://www.scac-online.org/basketball_womens)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 16, 2006, 06:44:01 PM
I am really interested in how Austin College will fare in the SCAC.  They went 10-10 in the ASC-East last year.

The Lady Roos lost a player in mid-season to a tragic automobile accident,

http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=1526.547

and recovered nicely.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on November 17, 2006, 10:13:47 AM
I do think they (Millsaps) are a decent team though (having only to judge them on last years team).  Whether or not they are ranked 8th in the conference doesn't mean their a bad team.  Last year in the conference tournament, they lost the game by 19 to DePauw (in the second half, they battled DePauw to lose by two points 39-37).  Obviously, DPU was the stronger team so they should have won, but it shows the ability level of the Millsaps team.  They also took games from both S'Western and Hendrix last year.  I'll reiterate that I think the SCAC is one of the best conferences in the nation this year... DePauw, Trinity, Oglethorpe, Southwestern, Rhodes, and Hendrix.  Those are some tough teams.  Do I think Millsaps is better than those teams.  No.  But I don't think a lot of "good" teams across the country could beat those teams either.  I put Austin in front of Millsaps solely because I know nothing about them except they come from a relatively strong conference. 

I hope this helps you understand where I'm coming from.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Borat...NOT on November 17, 2006, 01:11:25 PM
That was pretty much my thinking on Austin also. 

I'll be traveling to Brownwood tonight for the Trinity-Howard Payne game.  It should be a good one, lets hope the SCAC can get the year started on the right foot.  Are any other SCAC teams in action tonight?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on November 17, 2006, 01:47:42 PM
DePauw vs. #10 Washington (Mo.) University, 6:00 CST

GO TIGERS!!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: d3bballfollower on November 17, 2006, 01:48:07 PM
Southwestern plays Emory I believe in Atlanta
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on November 17, 2006, 10:45:45 PM
Quote from: roaring0506 on November 17, 2006, 01:47:42 PM
DePauw vs. #10 Washington (Mo.) University, 6:00 CST

GO TIGERS!!

Tigers beat Wash U 75-68.  Liz Bondi with 14 & 10. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Borat...NOT on November 20, 2006, 03:16:51 PM
Glad to hear some of the other schools had good weekends as Trinity had a rough weekend.  They lost to both HPU and HSU in what was a very weird weekend.  Friday night one of their best players was hampered by a minor ankle injury halfway through the first half and her playing time was limited throughout the rest of the game.  This really hurt the Tigers as they were within 5 points when she went out then were down by around 20 at half.  Halfway through the second half an official had a seizure and after almost an hour, the game was resumed.  Both of the opponents were very good but Trinity did not play anywhere near their potential.  They looked very tight and looked to be going through the motions instead of creating scoring chances.  The game Tuesday night against UMHB will be huge for them.  I still think this is a good basketball team, they must cut down on their turnovers and have some of their leaders step up and play like they've been out there before. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scaccommish on November 20, 2006, 09:27:31 PM
SCAC Women's Hoops Weekly - Week 1 edition:
http://www.scac-online.org/basketball_womens/112006wbasketballupdate.pdf (http://www.scac-online.org/basketball_womens/112006wbasketballupdate.pdf)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on November 21, 2006, 08:51:36 AM
This board never gets much activity but I'll give a early season report on Millsaps after the first two games.  There are a lot of new faces on the court this year but not a lot of new faces on the team. 

One of the new faces to the program is Head Coach Mary Bolton.  I've spoken to her on numerous occasions and I am tremendously impressed with her as a person.  I don't know how she'll do as a coach since I'm not really qualified to judge and I've only seen two games, but she is the type person who will be a tremendous asset to Millsaps and I think she'll do a great job at Millsaps.

Because she was named as the new coach at the beginning of the summer, there wasn't much recruiting that Coach Bolton could do.  Her two returning players with significant playing time are Leslie Frese and Crystal Dickerson.  Both are solid all around players who can handle the ball, rebound, score inside and also make 3-pointers.  They will be counted on a lot this season.

The new faces to the court this year are the players who were on the team last year but saw very little playing time.  Sophomore LeReina Adams was a great high school player but she only played in 14 games last year for a total of 108 minutes.  In two games she has already passed her season totals for last year with 40 points and 31 rebounds.  There are parts of her game that remind me a lot of former Millsaps and D2 star Jessica Dunlap, the best SCAC player that I've ever seen.

Also new to the court this season are twins Deborah and Allison Sturgis who give Millsaps some height in the middle.  Amber King and Kalea Hardwick are the other two returning players and I thought they gave a solid performance in the first two games of the season.

The three totally new faces that played the past weekend are Marianne Smith, Jamie Sclafani and Megan Bauerle.  Marianne started both games so I remember a little more about her play but I'll admit that I didn't get a good read on any of these players since they are new to me and I was watching much of the game through the viewfinder of my camera.  They all seemed to contribute and obviously Coach Bolton has confidence in them.

All in all, it will be a rebuilding year at Millsaps but they may surprise some teams and they may be better at the end of the season than they were at the end of the season last year.  It just depends on how much these players developed with the increase in playing time.  As for the future, I think Coach Bolton will have Millsaps in the SCAC title hunt before too long.  She just seems like the type of person who will bring in good recruits and then bring out their best.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on November 21, 2006, 09:14:18 AM
Frank - Do you know why Lindsay Alderman isn't on the roster this season?  She contributed significantly last season, so I was surprised to see she isn't on the roster.

DePauw had there first setback this past weekend against a very good Illinois Wesleyan team.  No excuses - IWU just outplayed DePauw (and hitting 10-20 behind the arc didn't hurt).  DePauw looks to get back on track tonight when they play Fontbonne.  Go Tigers!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on November 21, 2006, 04:48:26 PM
I don't know the story about Lindsay Alderman.  I think she is from Virginia so maybe it's just a case of staying closer to home.  It doesn't look like she is a student at Millsaps this year.  I have talked to Jessica Bowie who was the first substitute at the center position last year and she is playing on scholarship at a school in Arkansas.  An NAIA school I think.

Millsaps plays at the University of Dallas this evening and then the next game on their schedule is the SCAC opener at Southwestern on Dec. 1st.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on November 21, 2006, 08:42:41 PM
DPU got back to their winning ways vs. Fontbonne.   113-46 Final score.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on November 22, 2006, 10:11:28 AM
Millsaps lost at Dallas last night by a score of 62-56.  Just going by the box score it looks like Millsaps wasn't shooting real well in the first half and they got behind by 7 and then they shot better in the second half but couldn't close the gap.  The story on the Dallas website says LaReina Adams scored 18 points in 17 minutes, the box score says she played 28 minutes.  Either way, it looks like she was hampered by foul trouble since she did foul out. 

Debbie Sturgis had 14 points and a team leading 7 rebounds in 38 minutes of play.  This compares to her entire 2005-06 totals of 18 points, 17 rebounds and 72 minutes of play, another example of old faces are really new faces for the Millsaps team this year.  Listed below are two links, one for the Dallas game and one for the Millsaps photos.  I have the photos from the LaGrange game posted and I'll get the Rust game photos posted over the Thanksgiving Holidays.

Dallas website:  http://www.udallas.edu/athletics/wbasketball/

Millsaps Photos:  http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v283/Millsaps_Majors/
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Borat...NOT on November 22, 2006, 01:43:10 PM
Trinity pulled out a close one last night at UMHB winning 84-81.  They were led by freshman Carlee Culver who had 28 and 12 and junior Meghan Scholbe who had 19 and 10, 17 of those coming in the 2nd half. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on November 24, 2006, 02:29:31 PM
Just a quick post to say that the Millsaps vs. Rust College photos are posted on the Millsaps photo website:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v283/Millsaps_Majors/

The next action for Millsaps is a trip to Southwestern and Trinity to open up SCAC play and then they are back home for a December 5th game against Louisiana College.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on November 24, 2006, 07:43:23 PM
DePauw hosts their own tournament this weekend in honor of former player, Amy Hasbrook (1997-2000), who passed away in a house fire in 2002.  The tournament, which starts on Saturday, has Rose-Hulman playing Denison in the 6:00PM game, with DPU following at 8:00PM against St. Elizabeth (NJ).  DePauw will play the winner/loser on Sunday at 2 or 4.  While I don't know much about St. Elizabeth, DePauw should see some good competition against RHIT or Denison.

Go Tigers!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on November 25, 2006, 08:53:26 PM
DePauw leads St. Elizabeth, 51-18 at halftime.

DePauw's shooting 59.5% from the field, and have forced 24 turnovers.

Everyone scored who played in the first half, led by Emily Marshall's 9 points.. Doughty, Fernandez, McGonigal, and Travelstead all have 6 points.  Pruzin, Lowes, Bondi, and Gw. Haehl each have 4.

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on November 25, 2006, 10:09:56 PM
Depauw forced 33 turnovers in a 89-33 game vs. St. Elizabeth.

No starter played more than 14 minutes.  Of the 18 players who played, 16 found themselves in the scoring column.

Team stats:
52% FG (39-75), 81.8% FT(9-11), 19 offensive rebounds, 21 steals, 11 turnovers

Individual stats:
Emily Marshall - 11 pts, 6 reb, 1 TO, 15 min
Gwen Haehl - 9 pts, 2 asst, 2 steals, 0 TO, 16 min
Caitlin McGonigal - 8 pts, 3 reb, 1 asst, 2 steals, 1 TO, 16 min
Meghan Warner - 6 pts, 5 reb, 2 asst, 1 steal, 0 TO, 11 min
Cassie Pruzin - 4 pts, 5 asst, 3 steals, 3 reb, 0 TO, 14 min


Bondi (12min), Travelstead (15min)- 8 pts
Doughty (12min), Lowes (14 min), Fernandez (8 min), Merkel (8 min) - 6 pts


The Tigers are looking sharp so far. The freshman and sophomore forwards are stepping up, taking a lot of pressure off Bondi.  And amazingly, the Tigers have played there first 4 games without Bridget Bailey who is recovering from knee surgery.  With the return of Bailey, and with the potential these freshman and sophomores are showing, the conference season should be very exciting! 

DePauw takes on Denison tomorrow afternoon.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on November 26, 2006, 05:49:40 PM
DePauw 73
Denison 64

Team stats:
48.2% FG (27-56), 78.9% FT (15-19), 18 assists

Individual stats:
Caitlin McGonigal - 14 pts, 5 reb, 2 stl
Suzy Doughty - 9 pts, 9 assists, 6 reb, 4 steals
Liz Bondi - 12 pts, 8 reb, 1 asst, 1 steal
Jenna Fernandez - 12 pts, 4 reb

Amy Hasbrook Memorial All-Tournament team:
Kristen Sheffield, MVP, Denison
Suzy Doughty, DePauw
Caitlin McGonigal, DePauw
Amber Hill, Denison
Jill Floyd, Rose-Hulman
Sarah Kozlowski, College of St. Elizabeth
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on November 26, 2006, 08:13:10 PM
A nice little win, that one.  I think Denison might be a pretty darned good basketball club in the North Coast this season.  Ought to be a dandy of a ballgame when the Big Red host Wittenberg right after New Year's.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on November 27, 2006, 11:15:56 AM
Pat,
What's the likelihood that the "Scoreboard" section will go back to its original form with the ranked teams at the top and then the rest of teams in an ordered fashion.  It is really hard for me to read this new format with the games scores shown by game time.  Just wanted to know if this format is going to stay like this for the rest of the season, or if we're going to go back to the original way.

Thanks for the information.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 27, 2006, 02:12:16 PM
Quote from: roaring0506 on November 27, 2006, 11:15:56 AM
Pat,
What's the likelihood that the "Scoreboard" section will go back to its original form with the ranked teams at the top and then the rest of teams in an ordered fashion.  It is really hard for me to read this new format with the games scores shown by game time.  Just wanted to know if this format is going to stay like this for the rest of the season, or if we're going to go back to the original way.

Thanks for the information.

Pat was trying to affect that change.

In the off-season, he linked up with D3scoreboard.com, the company that handles scores for the SCAC.

I am sure that he is trying to work out the programming issues to make the site better.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scaccommish on November 28, 2006, 11:29:27 AM
SCAC Women's Hoops Weekly for Week 2:

http://www.scac-online.org/basketball_womens/112706wbasketballupdate.pdf (http://www.scac-online.org/basketball_womens/112706wbasketballupdate.pdf)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: moseshightower on November 30, 2006, 11:21:08 PM
Just noticed Lauren Andrews is back on the Trinity roster.  She was the starting point guard for the Sweet 16 team Trinity had a couple of years ago and sat out last year with a knee injury.  She should have a pretty big impact on the Tigers.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Borat...NOT on December 01, 2006, 03:07:32 PM
Trinity will add two players to the rotation tonight.  A freshman girl from the soccer team will also be on the bench for the first time. 

Anyone seen Rhodes in action this year or have any reports on what to expect?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on December 02, 2006, 09:20:23 AM
Borat, were you at the game last night to see what happen to Rhodes.  I see that 38 turnovers happened, but was TU defense suffocating, or did Rhodes just make mistakes? 


DePauw tips off conference play this afternoon when they host Centre at 1:00 PM.   Go TIGERS!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Borat...NOT on December 02, 2006, 04:35:10 PM
Roaring, 

        Trinity came out a different basketball team after the half.  The defensive effort picked up which led to some easy baskets.  Not only was Rhodes turning the ball over but they weren't making shots when they got them.  Trinity opened the 2nd half on a 28-2 run.  The Tigers really looked energized by the return of Lauren Andrews.  She continued where she left off 2 years ago.  Rhodes wasn't a very deep basketball team and it looked like they got frustrated and their energy level dropped off. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on December 02, 2006, 06:40:04 PM
DePauw 101
Centre 48

DePauw team stats:
56.1% FG (37-66), 82.1% FT (23-28), 14 OB, 20 Steals

DePauw individual stats:
Liz Bondi - 30 pts, 11-12 FG, 8-8 FT, 2 asst, 4 steals, 1 block, 1 TO (21 min)
Suzy Doughty - 7 pts, 6 asst, 4 steals (21 min)
Emily Marshall - 14 pts, 6 rbs (21 min)
Gretchen Haehl - 12 pts, 4-5 FG, 4 asst, 1 steal, 0 TO (15 min)
Andrea Travelstead - 9 pts, 5 reb, 5 steals (15 min)


It was a total team effort this afternoon.  DePauw just dominated.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on December 03, 2006, 03:48:00 AM
Quote from: roaring0506 link=topic=4264.msg627970#msg627970
It was a total team effort this afternoon.  DePauw just dominated.

I really thought Centre might be a little better this season than they were last year.  They had a boatload of turnovers today and DPU had a ton of points off the break.  Liz Bondi was absolutely insane today with her 30 points.

DePauw had a chance to get some youngsters some playing time today with Bridget Bailey still on the shelf and Jenna Fernandez not playing.  Emily Marshall looked very good today while Andrea Travelstead had a very nice day in the post off the bench for Coach Huffman. 

The scary thing is that this DePauw team might be better than they were last year.  The post is at least 5 deep in quality players.  Bondi, Bailey, Fernandez, Marshall, and Travelstead all look like very good scoring threats.  It's also a typical DPU backcourt with Doughty, Lowes, Pruzin, both Haehls, and McGonigal. 

This DePauw team is going to make another serious run at a national championsip this year in my opinion.  They're really freakin' good.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on December 03, 2006, 11:47:38 AM
I would agree with you DPU3619.  This team is a lot deeper than last years team, but only time will tell.  DePauw has already shown they can have some off-games (Illinois Wesleyan-who actually, is a really good team that I believe is 4-0 right now).  The thing DePauw needs to do right now is take each game one at a time (which I think they do seeing that in every article in the newspaper, a player quotes that they "can't look to far down the road", and not get complacent.  The strength of this team is their experience, and refusal to lose.  This team (from top to bottom) HATES losing... and even when they win, they look as if they aren't satisfied.  Plus, they do with with class. 

The post players on this team are as strong as they've been in years - and like you said DPU3619, there's a lot of youth.  Here's what they're doing right now:

Liz Bondi (senior) - 16.7 ppg (65.6% FG), 5.8 rpg, 1.5 steals (23.3 min/g)
Jenna Fernandez (freshman) - 10.0 ppg (53.8% FG), 3.4 rpg, (20.8 mins/g)
Emily Marshall (freshman) - 8.5 ppg (54.8% FG), 5.3 rpg, (15.5 min/g)
Andrea Travelstead (soph)- 4.2 ppg (47% FG), 3.0 rpg, 1.3 steals (12 min/g)
Meghan Warner (freshman) - 4.7 ppg (70% FG), 4.7 rpg, (11 min/g)

Not to mention... Bridget Bailey will be returning within the next month hopefully.  An extremly formiable front line!

On to the guard court is where all the experience can be found.  Every one of the guards that play for the Tigers have started at least one game in a Tiger uniform (with the exception of Gw. Haehl, who joined the Tigers last season).  That gives Coach Kris Huffman a lot of different options and lineups to go with. 

With the point guards, you have the ever-so-steady leadership of Doughty (senior) and Gr. Haehl (junior).  The duo are combining for 12.5 ppg (47.6% FG/93.3% FT), 8.5 apg, 3.66 spg, while avg. only 5 TO per game.  Doughty is playing 21 min/g, Gr. Haehl 15.8 min/g. 

The remainder of the back court is making there most of their minutes, with junior Kalei Lowes (8.2 ppg, 2.33 apg, 22 min/g) and sophomore Cassie Pruzin (7.2 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 2.66 spg, 20.2 min/g) starting for the Tigers, and the experience that comes off the bench in senior Caitlin McGonigal (9.7 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 17.3 min/g) and junior Gwen Haehl (2.7 ppg, 1.1 apg, 1.0 rpg, 12.5 min/g). 

The future does look bright for this Tiger squad.  Hopefully, we see last years winning streak of 28 being broken by this years team.  The target on their back is getting bigger and bigger, and there's a whole heck of a lot of basketball to be played this seaon!  This is going to be a fun year!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on December 03, 2006, 05:05:33 PM
Today's SCAC scoreboard:
Trinity 90
Millsaps 51

Well-balanced attack for the Tigers.

Anyone know what happened to Oglethorpe yesterday?  Is Sewanne that much improved to beat them?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Borat...NOT on December 03, 2006, 08:42:05 PM
Did anyone see Rhodes beat Southwestern?  Pretty interesting that a Rhodes team gets killed by Trinity and then goes and beats a Southwestern team that beat HSU just a few weeks before.  The same HSU team that dismantled Trinity in the first weekend of the season. 

From what I saw this weekend, Millsaps has a long way to go.  Most of their good players are younger but they looked clueless out there.  They had no inside presence today and turned the ball over 31 times.   Although the scores in San Antonio were similar, Rhodes is a much better basketball team than Millsaps.   Trinity forced 69 turnovers in 2 games this weekend!!!! It looks like they are finding their stride after a rough start.  Did anyone see the SU/Rhodes game???
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on December 04, 2006, 12:29:07 AM
Quote from: Borat...NOT on December 03, 2006, 08:42:05 PM
Did anyone see Rhodes beat Southwestern?  Pretty interesting that a Rhodes team gets killed by Trinity and then goes and beats a Southwestern team that beat HSU just a few weeks before.  The same HSU team that dismantled Trinity in the first weekend of the season. 

Not sure "dismantle" is the right term there, champ.  Rhodes led that ballgame at halftime and then came about and made a robust 12% of their shots in the second half.  That was less of Trinity steamrolling them and more about Coach Dean's squad not being able to hit water if they fell out of a boat after the half.

I like the Rhodes women.  They gave DePauw a couple of really good runs last season.  Crystal Jessee and Ashley Farrell are both really good players.

I think Southwestern is clearly better than they were last year, but I'm still not ready to call them a contender.  That HSU win might be a bit more of a fluke than anything else at this juncture.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 04, 2006, 12:52:40 AM
Pam Ruder had some insight on the nature of that game for us on one of our Tour de Tejas podcasts.

http://www.d3hoops.com/audio/06/tourdetejasruder.mp3
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 04, 2006, 09:23:05 AM
Quote from: DPU3619 on December 04, 2006, 12:29:07 AM

... That HSU win might be a bit more of a fluke than anything else at this juncture.

Come next February and we South Region teams are looking at the Pool C bids, if we don't win our tourneys, that Southwestern "fluke" will be really big.

This looks like it will be a really good season for ASC/SCAC basketball.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Borat...NOT on December 04, 2006, 01:02:15 PM
Quote from: DPU3619 on December 04, 2006, 12:29:07 AM
Not sure "dismantle" is the right term there, champ.  Rhodes led that ballgame at halftime and then came about and made a robust 12% of their shots in the second half.  That was less of Trinity steamrolling them and more about Coach Dean's squad not being able to hit water if they fell out of a boat after the half.

DPU, if you go back and look at what I originally wrote, I said it was an HSU team that dismantled Trinity not Rhodes.  In regards to the Rhodes/TU game,  I think its pretty obvious that Rhodes got killed.  Yes, they were up at half but Trinity played a terrible first half.  In the end, they outscored Rhodes 50-12 in the second half, they forced 38 turnovers, and won by over 30 points.  Rhodes shot the ball poorly in the second half but they didn't have many open looks either.  I still think Rhodes will have a good year but on Friday Night they were overmatched.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on December 05, 2006, 08:46:30 AM
Quote from: Borat...NOT on December 03, 2006, 08:42:05 PM


From what I saw this weekend, Millsaps has a long way to go.  Most of their good players are younger but they looked clueless out there.  They had no inside presence today and turned the ball over 31 times.   Although the scores in San Antonio were similar, Rhodes is a much better basketball team than Millsaps.   Trinity forced 69 turnovers in 2 games this weekend!!!! It looks like they are finding their stride after a rough start.  Did anyone see the SU/Rhodes game???


I guess being called clueless is better than your description of the Millsaps women as garbage which you used on another thread.  Maybe you should just drop the "...NOT" from your name.

Last year's coach at Millsaps took a job at Spring Hill College in late May or early June and the current coach came in at mid-summer.  With the exception of two players, none of the current players have had any significant minutes of playing time at the college level prior to this season.  With very little returning experience and hardly any new recruits because of the timing of the coaching change, this will be a season with tremendous challenges for the Millsaps ladies.  I expect that they will play hard, continue to improve, and hopefully they will get into the SCAC Tournament at the end of the year. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Borat...NOT on December 05, 2006, 10:32:40 AM
Quote from: frank_ezelle on December 05, 2006, 08:46:30 AM
I guess being called clueless is better than your description of the Millsaps women as garbage which you used on another thread.  Maybe you should just drop the "...NOT" from your name.

I think clueless and garbage go hand in hand and that's about the level of basketball I saw this weekend.  Sitting in the stands I overheard a conversation between parents of a couple Millsaps players.  They were saying the team looks totally lost, they have noone to distribute the ball, and they have a limited rotation.  After 2 30+ point losses, and the things I overheard, I think my comments made on this board are justified. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on December 05, 2006, 11:51:33 AM
Saw that the new d3hoops.com poll came out today. 

DPU - 5th
Hendrix - RV

Now while DePauw doesn't surprise me in being ranked, its hard for me to believe that Hendrix is receiving votes.  How good is Hendrix?  Yes, they are currently 5-1, but WHO have they played that's competition.  Maybe someone can enlighten me. 

They've played and beat Rust College twice (beat them by 49 pts and 33 pts - I can't find any W/L on Rust, but they've already lost at least 3 against conference schools), Rhema Bible College (25 pts - who after some research I found out were 3-17 last year), Westminister College (37 pts, currently 1-4 overall), and Austin (obviously a conference game). 

They've lost to John Brown, who currently has a 3-6 record.

Yes, Huggins is a good player, but her statistics are extremely overinflated.  She's averaging 25 ppg, but she's also playing against "not very good" competition, and in doing so, playing 32 min a game.  Now, can someone tell me why when you are blowing teams out of the water by 30+ points, your leaving her in the game for 30+ mins?  There's definitely more than 5 players on that team, let the bench see some action.  It says a lot about the class of Hendrix :-\

There's not a doubt in my mine that looking at Hendrix's schedule, they should enter the large part of the SCAC season at 12-1 overall (or if they slip up, 11-2 overall).  It's a VERY WEAK schedule!!

Trinity, even if they did start out the season slow, will get back (and IMO should definitely rank above Hendrix CURRENTLY) into the Top 25. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on December 05, 2006, 06:14:17 PM
I gotta tell you, I was really surprised at last year's Hendrix team.  I thought they were going to be much better than they were.  I certainly expected them to be the third best team behind DePauw and Trinity in the conference.  That just flat didn't happen and I still dunno why.

Huggins played almost 40 minutes a night last year simply because Hendrix doesn't have any darned depth at all.  They have 6 guards listed on the roster for this year, and all but one are playing 10 minutes or more a night.  I haven't seen Hendrix this year, but I would venture to reckon it's the same story.  It's not classlessness, they just don't have that many good players. 

When it comes right down to it, they're going to need her in shape to play that many minutes in February.  I'd probably play her that many minutes too to get her in a condition to go for all 40 a night if I knew I was going to need her to do that in every conference game this season to have a shot.

Also, in D-III, I don't think you can blame the schools a whole lot on scheduling.  ESPECIALLY Hendrix.  There's a whole lot of other places I'd rather go than Conway to play a non-conf game. :D Who's with me?  I'm not sure they want to travel to who knows where to play a decent team.  A TX school like Hardin-Simmons. McMurry, or Howard Payne?  Those ain't a short ride.

Also, they only got two votes.  I can imagine that there were two people somewhere who did very little research and said, "Whoa.  Hendrix is 5-1.  I'll give 'em a vote."  I can also imagine that the reciprocal happened to a 2 loss TU, despite both loses coming to teams in the Top 15 in the country.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on December 05, 2006, 06:15:50 PM
Quote from: Borat...NOT on December 05, 2006, 10:32:40 AM
I think clueless and garbage go hand in hand and that's about the level of basketball I saw this weekend. 

Making friends ain't very high on your priority list, is it?  I've got a feeling you're going to make it an awfully long season around here.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 05, 2006, 06:41:40 PM
Quote from: DPU3619 on December 05, 2006, 06:14:17 PM
...

Also, in D-III, I don't think you can blame the schools a whole lot on scheduling.  ESPECIALLY Hendrix.  There's a whole lot of other places I'd rather go than Conway to play a non-conf game. :D Who's with me?  I'm not sure they want to travel to who knows where to play a decent team.  A TX school like Hardin-Simmons. McMurry, or Howard Payne?  Those ain't a short ride. ...


I will cut Hendrix some slack on their scheduling.

They have "SCAC mandated" trips to DPU, Centre, Sewanee, Oglethorpe, Trinity and Southwestern.  Each of those is farther than most of the trips in the ASC.  Next year it may get harder with Colorado College, and possibly BSC.

They have booked home and home with ASC-neighbor UOzarks, independents UDallas for one and Rust times 2 plus a game in the Hendrix Tourney.  Rhema was in the Rhodes Tourney, as was Westminster in a Tip-off Classic format.  The game with John Brown in Siloam Springs was easy on the travel budget.

As for Hendrix "scheduling into" the 20-game schedule in the ASC East, there are not many open dates left for games with LeTourneau or ETBU, much less HSU, HPU or McMurry.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Borat...NOT on December 06, 2006, 12:32:57 PM
Quote from: DPU3619 on December 05, 2006, 06:15:50 PM
Making friends ain't very high on your priority list, is it?  I've got a feeling you're going to make it an awfully long season around here.

I'm just trying to give an accurate account of what I expected and then what I saw.  I don't think it helps anyone out to exagerate the quality of a team. 

I saw Trinity play Texas Lutheran last night and it was another blowout victory for the Tigers.  Although the quality of their last three opponents hasn't been on par with that of HPU and HSU, they have looked much more aggressive and confident over the last 3.  Krista Prato Matthews had a great game with 18pts and 14rbs.  It's great to see her getting things going.  It looks like the Tigers have many players who can score. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on December 06, 2006, 02:28:14 PM
Borat, I think the point that is being missed is that one can say a team is weak or one can say a team is garbage.  It's a question of do you want to give an accurate account or do you want to give an accurate account while also demeaning the other team.  Likewise, to say that Millsaps was overmatched against Trinity would be an accurate account but clueless once again goes past accurate and into demeaning.

That's just my opinion and that was my point from the beginning.  Maybe you simply don't think that calling someone garbage and clueless is demeaning or insulting.  I'll agree that Millsaps is in a major rebuilding year after a season where they finished 8th in the conference and I think it will be great if they just show progress over the course of the season. 

My objection was simply in the demeaning way that you referred to the team and I would have that same objection if you had said the same about any of the other teams in the league.  And with that, I'll drop the subject.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on December 08, 2006, 01:47:36 PM
The Millsaps at Mississippi College women's game this Saturday at 1pm can be heard via the following link:

http://www.espnradio1240.com/
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on December 09, 2006, 06:35:16 PM
DePauw led the entire way and rolled over Monmouth (not THAT Monmouth... the other Monmouth.. the one in Illinois) 90-60 today.

Cassie Pruzin with 17 on 5-8 shooting from deep.  Gretchen Haehl and Meghan Warner with 14 apiece. 

DePauw shot right at 50% and 61% (11-18) from 3.  DePauw had a ridiculous 52 points from the bench.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on December 09, 2006, 09:22:27 PM
Yeah, the Tigers rolled in this one (and without 2 of their starters in Bondi and Fernandez).

I'd throw out there that Doughty missed a triple double by one point - a very productive 18 minutes for her.  9 points, 10 assists, and 10 steals.  Not too bad!

DePauw returns to action the 16th vs. Wittenberg.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on December 16, 2006, 06:28:17 PM
DePauw- 27
Wittenberg - 19

Suzy Doughty just became the all-time leading assist man for DePauw with 355 assists.  She needs only 3 steals to also become the all-time steals leader.

DePauw has been bitten by the injury bug in the post, playing without leading scorers Liz Bondi and Jenna Fernandez.  Should be interesting to see how DPU responds with the strength of the Witt post.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on December 16, 2006, 06:44:48 PM
DePauw - 44
Wittenberg - 23
Halftime

DePauw shooting over 50% from the field.  Suzy Doughty leading the team with 4 points and 7 assists.  Freshman Emily Marshall leads the Tigers in scoring at the half with 7 points.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on December 16, 2006, 07:57:57 PM
DePauw 82
Wittenberg 60
Final

Senior Suzy Doughty and the freshman duo of Emily Marshall and Meghan Warner team up to lead the Tigers to there 6th straight win. 

Key Team Stats:
55.6% FG (35-65), 81.8% FT (9-11), 20 assists, 16 steals, 17 Offensive Rebounds

Key Individual Stats:
Suzy Doughty - 8 points, 9 asst, 2 steals, 4 treb, 2 TO (23 min)
Emily Marshall - 12 points, 11 reb (21 min)
Meghan Warner - 12 points (6-6 FG), 3 reb, 1 asst, 1 steal (21 min)
Caitlin McGonigal - 11 points, 3 asst, 3 steals, 2 reb, 2 TO (22 min)
Cassie Pruzin - 8 points, 6 reb, 3 steals, 1 asst, 2 TO (21 min)
Andrea Travelstead- 8 points, 4 reb, 1 steal (27 min)
Gretchen Haehl - 7 points, 3 assist (19 min)
Gwen Haehl - 7 points. 1 asst. 1 reb, 1 steal (11 min)

DePauw travels to Webster on Wednesday for there final game before Christmas.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Borat...NOT on December 19, 2006, 12:35:22 PM
Trinity won both of their games this weekend in Colorado Springs against DuBuque and Colorado College.  Trinity was without senior Jennifer Wieman who is out for a while with an injury.  Trinity player very sloppy Saturday against DuBuque and won 75-68.  Although they didn't play up to their potential, it was good to see them win a game that was ugly and sloppy.  They hit some big shots down the stretch when they really needed them.  4 Tiger players scored in double figures. 

On Sunday, they played an injury depleted Colorado College team who only had 7 girls suited up for the game.  This was a very physical game that the officials lost control of.  Trinity has a slim lead at half as many of their key players were in foul trouble throughout the game.  They again had a balanced attack with 5 players scoring in double figures.  They won by 13 or 14 points. 

These were 2 good wins for the Tigers.  Lauren Andrews has really been a huge boost for the team and was named all tournament team.  Beth Hannon was also named to the all tournament team and Meghan Scholbe was named tournament MVP. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on December 19, 2006, 10:59:51 PM
No change for DePauw in the poll this week. 

I figured we'd probably see Hendrix in the others recieving votes category this week in the d3hoops pol, and they did get 8 votes.  Trinity also recieved 1 vote. 

8-0 Illinois Wesleyan, DPU's only loss, continues on a steady ascent.  Up to 14th in the Coaches and 18th in the d3hoops poll.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on December 20, 2006, 08:20:52 PM
DePauw out to a strong start against Webster.

DePauw 20
Webster 0
13:30
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on December 20, 2006, 09:00:54 PM
DePauw 62
Webster 20
Halftime

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on December 20, 2006, 10:09:25 PM
DePauw 94
Webster 51
Final

The Tigers shot 61% from the field, including 12-20 from the three point line.  Sophomore Cassie Pruzin led the way with 19 points (5 treys), with senior Caitlin McGonigal netting 15.  Liz Bondi returned to the court to add 10 points, as did Emily Marshall. 

And with her two steals in the first half, senior Suzy Doughty became the all-time steals leader at DePauw.  Congratulations Suzy!

DePauw will take a short recess until after Christmas when they will head to San Diego for the Surf 'N Slam Tournament hosted by Pt. Loma Nazarene.  The Tigers will face Kenyon in their first game on December 28.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: colincondi on December 22, 2006, 07:09:13 PM
At the break, it looks like DePauw will be a runaway winner once again... I don't think anyone else is in their class...  DePauw is a legitimate national power and final four possibility... their depth is amazing.  I could easily see them running the table...

The conference appears to be three-tiered... DePauw; pretty good; not very good... the pretty good includes Trinity, Oglethorpe, Rhodes, and Southwestern... all of these teams can beat a good team on any given night, but none of them are top 25 caliber, in my opinion... Trinity was trounced by Howard Payne and Hardin-Simmons... Oglethorpe has yet to beat a quality team (a win at Emory was a decent win)... Rhodes was outscored 50-12 in the second half against Trinity and hasn't played the toughest of schedules... Southwestern has the impressive win against Hardin-Simmons... they are much improved again this year, but I think they and Coach Ruder are still a year away... I wouldn't be surprised to see them overtake Trinity before long as the top SCAC team in TX...

Hendrix and Sewanee are somewhat of question marks... Hendrix has a great record but have a cupcake schedule... Sewanee has surprising wins over OU and Thomas More, but a loss to LaGrange... they are much improved over last year, but still not that good...

The other three teams have a long way to go to be competitive...

Overall, I think the conference may be a bit over-rated... definitely not capable of having 2 teams in the top 5 or 10 as someone wrote in the pre-season... just look at the conference teams results against other top teams... way ahead of the GSAC, but not close to the ASC... DePauw is really the only team I see as being top 25 material, but they are a legit top 5
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on December 22, 2006, 09:15:16 PM
Quote from: colincondi on December 22, 2006, 07:09:13 PM
Hendrix and Sewanee are somewhat of question marks... Hendrix has a great record but have a cupcake schedule...

We're going to find out what the Lady Warriors have pretty quickly after the calendar turns.  Trinity & Southwestern at home the first weekend then @ DePauw. 

A couple other comments in the previous post I'd like to address, also.  Colin, you've got Oglethorpe in your "pretty good" category.  Until the Stormy Petrels figure out how to keep the opposition from putting that round thing through that orange thingy with the netting attached to it, they are in trouble.  75 pts/game allowed is far and away the worst in the conference. 

However, at the same time, I think saying the conference overall is overrated is a bit on the harsh side.  Trinity's probably a Top 25 team before it's all over and done.  You mentioned losses to HPU and HSU to open the season,  both of whom are in the top 15 nationally, but forgot nice wins over UMHB and also Rhodes by 30 in a game Rhodes led at halftime.  Southwestern is much better, including that nice win over Hardin-Simmons.  They might be the third best team in the conference.  Awfully early to tell, though.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: colincondi on December 22, 2006, 10:02:40 PM
I don't expect Hendrix to win any of the three games you mentioned... there is no way they win at DePauw... if they beat one of the TX schools at home, then perhaps they are a better than I think or the TX school are not as good as I think...

Don't get me wrong... the SCAC is a solid conference, but I remember some saying that there might be two top 5 to top 10 teams, three top 25 teams, the SCAC being one of the best conferences in the nation, etc...  I don't buy any of that...

Trinity is good but not at the level they were a couple of years ago...  they got pounded pretty good by the only two top 25 teams they have played... the MHB win was a nice one, but nothing earth-shattering... I think Trinity very well may get back into the top 25 before it is all said and done... their conference schedule is favorable in that they only play OU and DPU once each and they've already beaten RC at home... they will wind up with a pretty good record so you are right, they may re-appear in the top 25... but if they lose to DePauw, that will make them 0-3 against other top 25 teams... my point is that they are good, but not sure they are at a "national" level...

Oglethorpe is giving up a lot of points, but they did last year as well... I think that is because of their style of play and pace more than anything... their press was pretty good last year, but their half court D was only average... if you can beat their press, you can beat them... they have certainly underachieved thus far, but I'm not counting them out just yet...

Southwestern could be the third best team, but you have to remember that RC beat them in TX, so don't discount them or OU... SW does have the benefit of having the same schedule as TU, which means they only play DPU once, as well as OU...

I'll still stick by my statements... I think the "pretty good" teams will fight for 2-5, with TU having the inside track at #2 because of their schedule... but with the conference record against top 25 teams at 1-5, and some losses to "others recieving votes", the teams besides DPU just haven't shown me they are top 25 material yet... the bottom teams in the conference are not very talented and bring the overall conference competitiveness down quite a bit with them...

but as you said, it is early...

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 22, 2006, 10:32:45 PM
Southwestern hosts a pretty good tourney next week

McMurry and UW-Stout are on the other side of the bracket and the Lady Pirates play Concordia-IL.

IMHO, UW-Stout's loss at Finlandia on the Upper Peninsula may be suspect.  We will see what All-American Kelsey Duoss can do for Stout.

In fact that UWStout-McMurry game features the first 2 pre-season All-American Centers in D3:  Kelsey Duoss and Tarra Richardson.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Borat...NOT on December 26, 2006, 05:13:53 PM
Trinity is a completely different team now than they were when they played HPU and HSU.  Not only were they working people into the lineup who hadn't played much in previous seasons, they were without Lauren Andrews because she was still playing soccer.  She has been an integral part of the team since her return.  I think if Trinity were to play HPU or HSU today it would be a completely different result.  I'm not saying I think Trinity would win but I think the games would be close games all the way to the end. 

I also don't think you can say that DePauw is that much better than Trinity.  If you remember last years games, Trinity played DePauw close both games.  If I recall correctly the game was either tied or a 1 point game in the last minute last year during the conference tournament before depauw won by 3 or 5.  As I believe DePauw is better this year I also think Trinity has improved greatly.  Trinity only lost 1 senior off last year's team and they added Lauren Andrews who missed last year with an injury.  They have also been receiving contributions from a couple freshman. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on December 27, 2006, 01:07:34 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran knocked off Concordia of Illinois earlier this season on their home floor. If the Cougars defend Southwestern like they did the Warriors, expect a press defense at least part of the game. WLC won, 74-58, on good outside shooting that game. (The Cougars are 4-4 overall, 2-3 in their conference). Given Southwestern's also got several tall players, it should be an interesting match-up.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on December 28, 2006, 06:47:59 PM
Southwestern 32, Concordia, IL 28. Half.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on December 28, 2006, 07:51:48 PM
Final:  Southwestern, TX 73, Concordia, IL 62. (Cougars missed 17 free throws in the game.) SW's depth may have worn them down as well.)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on December 28, 2006, 08:21:26 PM
DePauw won #9 in a row this afternoon in San Diego, beating Kenyon 68-40.  It seems DPU actually trailed early, but they went on what I'm reading as a 30-2 run over the last seven minutes of the first half and the start of the second half. 

I'm glad to see Liz Bondi is back from injury and played well, scoring 11 and pulling down 7 boards.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on December 28, 2006, 08:22:58 PM
Trinity, TX also beat Manchester by some 10-15 points.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: etg on December 28, 2006, 08:29:30 PM
(El Tea Gray---re: Trinity Women's Holiday Tournament--12/28 & 12/29)

Day 1         Bethel                      58
                  Wisc.-Eau Claire      60


                  Manchester, IN        63
                  Trinity                      77


Day 2         Bethel  vs.  Manchester            2 p.m.
                  UWEC  vs.  Trinity                     4 p.m 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 28, 2006, 10:23:05 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on December 28, 2006, 07:51:48 PM
Final:  Southwestern, TX 73, Concordia, IL 62. (Cougars missed 17 free throws in the game.) SW's depth may have worn them down as well.)

WLC, if Southwestern's depth wore them down, they will get more of the same tomorrow night!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on December 28, 2006, 10:58:58 PM
When WLC played Concordia-IL at their place earlier this season, the Cougars used a press. The Warriors were able to break it several times and their 3 point shooters were hitting that day. WLC ended up winning 74-58 if memory serves correctly.

This poster's figuring on a McMurry win tomorrow. Richardson will give the Cougars fits.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 28, 2006, 11:03:05 PM
WLC (IMHO All-American) point guard Symbri Tuttle, who had 6 assists, one steal and no turnovers versus UWStout, will handle any press that Concordia IL can throw at her!

Thanks for the scouting report!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on December 29, 2006, 09:43:46 AM
Also a note in DePauw win over Kenyon, Bridget Bailey saw her first limited action of the season, coming off a surgery in the preseason.  She was productive in her 7 minutes played with 8 points on 4-4 shooting and 3 rebounds.  Once they get Fernandez back from her injury (conference time), the Tigers should have an extremely potent frontourt in Bondi (5-10 sr.), Marshall (6-0 fr.), Travelstead (6-0 so.), Warner (6-0 fr), Bailey (6-3 sr.), and Fernandez (5-11 fr).  Not many teams have the luxary of being able to exchange 5/6 different posts without missing a beat!

The Tigers take on #21 Medaille today at 2:00 PST.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on December 29, 2006, 08:18:47 PM
#5 DePauw 69
#21 Medaille 59
Final

DePauw didn't shoot the ball particularly well (23-62, 37.1%), but knocked down the 3 ball when they needed to (8-18, 44.4%).  Pruzin and Bondi led the Tiger charge with 16 points a piece.  Pruzin added 7 rebounds and 4 assists, while Bondi took care of the boards with 10 rebounds and 3 steals.  Lowes and Gr. Haehl each had 9.

The Tigers take on in the Championship Game either #14 Simpson (who's 8-0) or NAIA host #15 Point Loma (who's 8-2).  That game is in the second half, with Simpson leading 55-52 with 9:30 seconds left.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on December 29, 2006, 10:02:33 PM
Simpson couldn't hold on to the lead they had all game, and Point Loma Nazarene advances to the Championship Game vs. DePauw with a final score of 73-72.

The championship game will take place tomorrow at 4:00 PST.  This will be a good test run for the Tigers (for the conference tournament) in that they will have to play 3 solid opponents on three consecutive nights.  Hopefully they can close out 2006 with an overall record of 11-1.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on December 30, 2006, 08:42:35 PM
Barn burner in San Diego...

DePauw 60
Point Loma 55
1:30
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on December 30, 2006, 08:48:11 PM
DPU pulling away... 30 sec
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on December 30, 2006, 09:05:13 PM
DePauw 67
Point Loma Nazarene 57
Final

Key Team stats:
Didn't shoot the ball extremely well at 21-54 (38.9%), but the Tigers DOMINATED the boards 43-24. 

Key Individual stats:
Liz Bondi - 19 pts (6-10 FG, 7-8 FT), 5 reb, 1 asst, 2 TO
Cassie Pruzin - 15 pts (5-10 3FG), 5 reb, 3 asst, 1 TO
Bridget Bailey - 10 pts, 6 reb
Gretchen Haehl - 5 pts, 4 assists, 4 reb, 1 steal, 0 TO

San Diego Surf N' Slam All-Tournament Team from DePauw:
Liz Bondi - MVP
Cassie Pruzin

The Tigers finish 2006 with a record of 11-1.  They return to action next Friday, as they travel to the mountain to play Sewanee.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on December 30, 2006, 09:58:42 PM
Those are two very impressive wins for DePauw the last two evenings.  A good win against #21 Medialle last night and a good win against NAIA's #15 Point Loma Nazarene today.  DPU didn't shoot the ball well either day, but made up for it in the other facets of the game. 

The opponents that DePauw saw the last two days are probably better than anybody they see in conference play aside from Trinity.  They might even be better than Trinity... although I don't think I'm willing to go all the way out on that limb quite yet.  By the time TU comes to Greencastle, they should be breaking into the Top 25.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: airball1 on December 30, 2006, 10:31:54 PM
Oglethorpe 81
Ill. Wesleyan 75
OU handed IWU its first defeat tonight. Very good bball game. Both teams went at it hard from start to finish. IWU has great outside shooters (they were 19 for 40 against Emory the previous night). OU made it difficult for IWU to hit the 3 pointer and were able to take it inside against post depleted IWU.
Congrats to DePauw on the 2 big W's out West.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on December 30, 2006, 11:34:10 PM
What a great win for Oglethorpe.

Forget I mentioned all that stuff about how poorly they were playing earlier.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Borat...NOT on January 04, 2007, 01:06:29 AM
Trinity defeated Georgetown College 73-70 last night.  Georgetown is ranked 16th in NAIA D1 currently and led most of the game.  Trinity didn't lead until late in the second half.  This was a ugly game but a good win for the Tigers. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on January 04, 2007, 08:54:40 PM
No change again in the poll this week.  DPU steady at #5.  Hendrix continues to gain ground, they're up to 17 votes. 

Also, the NCAA released their first stat report yesterday.  Interesting to see that Hendrix's Tori Huggins is the fourth best scorer in the country at 25.5 pts/game.  Hendrix is also fifth in the country at 80 pts/game.  DPU a couple of points higher at 82 & change, good for fourth. 

Nice to see Trinity bounce back as well after that loss against UW-Eau Claire.  Looks like they got some shots to fall in the second half last night, going 17-32 from the floor.  That's a good win for TU.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on January 05, 2007, 07:40:13 PM
DePauw 41
Sewanee 28
Halftime
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on January 05, 2007, 09:19:41 PM
DePauw 82
Sewanee 51
Final

DPU Key Team Stats:
55.7% FG (34-61), Outrebounded Sewanee 49-31; No DPU player played more than 20 min.

Individual stats:
Bondi - 10 pts, 9 reb, 2 asst, 1 steal (18 min)
Marshall - 10 pts, 5 reb (13 min)
Warner - 10 pts, 5 reb (19 min)
Gr. Haehl - 10 pts (4-4 FG), 3 assists, 4 reb (19 min)
Doughty - 7 pts, 5 asst, 4 steals (19 min)
Lowes - 12 pts (20 min)

Sewanee was led in scoring by Miller with 14 pts.  Renninger followed with 11 points.  Sewanee was held to 27.3% shooting from the field.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on January 06, 2007, 12:27:07 PM
Hendrix beat Trinity 67-64 last night as well.  Frist time in like 5 years or something like that.  Trinity didn't shoot it well from any distance (38% from the field, 20% from 3, 61% at the stripe) and Hendrix went bananas in the second half, going 16-29 from the floor.  Bonnie Hicks scored 25 on 9-17 shooting.  Tori Huggins scored 19 and of course played all 40 minutes.

Stock up for 12-1 Hendrix. 

Other finals:
Oglethorpe 71 Centre 50
Southwestern 61 Austin 48
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on January 07, 2007, 11:55:05 AM
Millsaps lost at Rhodes 68-61 yesterday in a game that was tight all the way to the end.  Millsaps is not going to challenge for the league championship this year, but they have improved tremendously in the first half of the season.

People looking at the Millsaps roster will not fully understand just how young this team is when it comes to experience.  LeReina Adams is a sophomore averaging a double-double with over 12 rebounds and 12 points per game but she only saw 108 minutes of playing time last year.  Debbie Sturgis is a senior and is 2nd on the team in scoring but she only saw 72 minutes of playing time last year. 

Of the nine returning players from 2005-06, two started last year and logged over 700 minutes of playing time each.  The other 7 players had a combined total of 415 minutes for the 2005-06 season.  That's 7 players sharing the time that would normally be seen by one key reserve.  This is a rebuilding year of major porportions and the game yesterday showed that the players and the coaches have come a long way in a very short period of time.  Hopefully that progress will start translating into wins in the second half of the season.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on January 07, 2007, 04:04:30 PM
Oglethorpe 31
DePauw 24
Halftime

DePauw just getting outplayed in Atlanta in the first half.  The Tigers are shooting a dismal 28% from the field, and have commited too many unforced turnovers.  Look for Coach Kris Huffman to fire up her squad at halftime, and get them ready to take care of business in the next 20 min.  DePauw is going to have to shoot the ball a lot better in the 2nd half, and take care of the basketball if they want to win this game. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on January 07, 2007, 04:36:49 PM
Oglethorpe 59
DePauw 58
1:35 2nd half
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on January 07, 2007, 04:41:24 PM
Oglethorpe 61
DePauw 58
0:19 left
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on January 07, 2007, 04:43:30 PM
DePauw 61
Oglethorpe 61
8.7 seconds left

Cassie Pruzin drains a 3.  Timeout.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on January 07, 2007, 04:46:04 PM
Oglethorpe 63
DePauw 61

Richman gets offensive rebound, scores. .8 seconds.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on January 07, 2007, 04:47:41 PM
Oglethorpe 63
DePauw 61
Final
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 07, 2007, 04:48:12 PM
Thanks roaring!!!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on January 07, 2007, 07:03:03 PM
Great win today for the lady Petrels.  With this win does anyone expect them to make a strong case to break the top 25 or at least receive votes in next weeks poll?  I know they lost to Sewanee, but since they are 6-0 with wins over two top 10 teams at the time.  Also besides their blowout loss to Puget Sound they only lost by 3 to Maryville (RV) and Pacific Lutheran (25).  Just a thought
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on January 07, 2007, 07:17:01 PM
File this one under "Oh really?" right next to the DPU loss:

Trinity 80
Austin 88

After Southwestern had no problems in Sherman on Friday, got to say that's a bit of a suprise.  Other scores from today:

Southwestern 62
Hendrix 65

Centre 53
Sewanee 68

Hendrix feeling a little sweepy at home this weekend against quality opponents.  I think I recall somebody saying they wouldn't win either of those games a couple weeks back.  Should be a dandy Friday night when they come to Greencastle.

As far as the DPU game, Oglethorpe is such a tough place to play.  Aside from last year's tourney games in Greencastle, DePauw's game @ OU last year was probably the loudest D-III women's game I can recall in traveling with the team for four years.  I assume the Petrel Nation or the Dorough something-or-others or whatever they call themselves these days were in full force again this afternoon.

I gather DePauw didn't shoot it well at all.  Oglethorpe is playing much better defense of late than they were just a couple of weeks ago.  Kept IWU in check and held the fourth best scoring team in the country to 61.  They've chopped 8 full points off their defensive average in the last two weeks.

To make nothing more than an elementary attempt to answer your question, I'd certainly expect them to get some votes in the poll with the win today and the resume you've presented.  However, they're going to need to gather up about 70 more points in the poll than they had last week (0) to escape the ARV category.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on January 07, 2007, 07:44:13 PM
Quote from: DPU3619 on January 07, 2007, 07:17:01 PM

As far as the DPU game, Oglethorpe is such a tough place to play.  Aside from last year's tourney games in Greencastle, DePauw's game @ OU last year was probably the loudest D-III women's game I can recall in traveling with the team for four years.  I assume the Petrel Nation or the Dorough something-or-others or whatever they call themselves these days were in full force again this afternoon.



The game definately wasn't as loud as the DPU OU game last year (that was rediculous) due to the fact that the students are still out on Christmas break...  Just a bunch a parents with attendance maybe close to 100... I wish more people had been able to see such a great game and win.  I'm used to seeing people leave after the guys game... but the trend has reversed with people showing up after the guys game to watch the girls... they really are a fun bunch to watch.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on January 09, 2007, 07:23:37 AM
The Millsaps ladies won a road game at Rust College, always a difficult place to play.  I don't have the score or the stats available but I remember from the radio broadcast that the victory margin was 3 points.  As I said in a recent post, Millsaps will not challenge for the league championship this season but they are improving at a rapid pace. 

I believe that freshman Marianne Smith was the leading scorer for the 3rd time in the last 7 games and she joins sophomores Crystal Dickerson and LaReina Adams as a strong foundation for the future.  Next up for the Lady Majors is a home game with Dallas on Wednesday (Rhodes won 71-60 last night at Dallas).
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bubba the Petrel on January 09, 2007, 10:06:08 AM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on January 07, 2007, 07:03:03 PM
Great win today for the lady Petrels.  With this win does anyone expect them to make a strong case to break the top 25 or at least receive votes in next weeks poll?  I know they lost to Sewanee, but since they are 6-0 with wins over two top 10 teams at the time.  Also besides their blowout loss to Puget Sound they only lost by 3 to Maryville (RV) and Pacific Lutheran (25).  Just a thought

Looks like the Lady Petrels did indeed receive votes this week - nice to see them on track after a slow start to the season...
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on January 12, 2007, 11:07:49 PM
Scores from this evening...

Hendrix 65
DePauw 87

Austin 58
Centre 39

Oglethorpe 71
Millsaps 53

Sewanee 60
Rhodes 70

That DPU/Hendrix game was a pretty good ballgame to watch.  Hendrix was only down 3 at the half, but they turned it over too much in the second half.  DePauw got 26 pts off Hendrix turnovers in the second half alone.  44 pts on 30 turnovers all together.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on January 14, 2007, 03:06:14 PM
DePauw 35
Austin 21
Halftime

DePauw not shooting very well from the field (11-28, 39.3%), but are connecting on FTs (12-14) to keep them out front.  Defensively, they are holding Austin to 17.6% FG shooting (6-34) which has given them the lead at halftime. 

Bondi leads the Tigers in scoring at the half with 10 points (10 min), followed by Bailey with 8 points, 7 rebounds, and 2 blocks (12 min).

Unal and Williams lead the Roos with 6 points apiece.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on January 14, 2007, 04:04:53 PM
DePauw 78
Austin 45

Final

DPU Key Stats:
25-52 FG (48.1%), 24-29 FT (82.8%), 18 TO, 34 bench points, 41-36 rebounding advantage.

Held Austin to 14-57 FG(24.6%), and forced 21 TO.

DPU Individual Stats:
Suzy Doughty - 12 pts, 8 assists, 2 steals, 5 rebounds, 3 TO (20 min)
Bridget Bailey - 10 pts, 8 rebounds (19 min)
Meghan Warner - 8 pts, 3 rebounds, 2 steals (14 min)

Bondi and Lowes each finished with 12 and 10 points, respectively. Pruzin contributed 6 pts, 6 rebounds, and 3 assists.

Katy Williams led the Roos with 14 points.

DePauw moves to 14-2 on the season.  They face Trinity next Friday in Greencastle.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on January 19, 2007, 06:24:56 PM
DePauw 26
Trinity 14
9:00 remaining first half
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on January 19, 2007, 06:45:49 PM
DePauw 40
Trinity 23
Halftime

DePauw leaders:
Bondi - 8 pts, 6 reb
Gr. Haehl and Pruzin - 6 points
Doughty - 6 assists

Trinity leaders:
Scholbe - 8 pts
Culver - 5 pts, 4 reb
Prato-Matthews - 4 pts, 5 reb
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on January 19, 2007, 07:21:40 PM
DePauw 64
Trinity 46
8:07 remaining
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on January 19, 2007, 07:44:36 PM
DePauw 76
Trinity 54
Final

DePauw "Team" Key Stats:
DPU shoots 44.4% (28-63); holds Trinity to 29.4% (20-68). 16 assists to Trinity's 6.  DePauw takes care of the ball having only 13 TO.  DePauw's bench contributes 37 points to Trinity's 19.

DPU Individuals Stats:
McGonigal - 17 pts, 8 reb, 1 asst, 2 steal, 1 TO (19 min)
Doughty - 9 pts, 9 asst, 2 steal, 2 TO (20 min)
Bondi - 12 pts, 9 reb, 1 asst, 1 steal, 4 blocks, 2 TO (32 min)
Gr. Haehl - 10 pts, 2 reb, 2 asst, 1 TO (18 min)
Pruzin - 6 pts, 7 reb, 3 steals

Trinity Individual:
Andrews - 16 pts, 2 asst, 2 reb, 4 TO (29 min)
Prato-Matthews - 6 pts, 7 reb, 3 blocks, 2 TO (25 min)
Culver - 5 pts, 8 reb, 4 TO (24 min)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on January 19, 2007, 08:40:02 PM
Centre 71
Southwestern 57
Final
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on January 20, 2007, 08:13:20 PM
DePauw 69
Southwestern 48

Final

Key DePauw Stats:
24-55 FG (43.6%), 48-28 rebounding advantage

DPU Individual Stats:
Bondi - 23 pts, 3 blocks, 3 reb, 1 TO (26 min)
Pruzin - 8 pts, 3 reb, 2 asst, 1 steal, 1 TO (21 min)
Bailey - 5 pts, 8 reb, 1 block 1 asst, 1 steal (22 min)
Doughty - 2 pts, 6 assts, 4 reb, 3 TO (20 min)

Southwestern Stats:
20-57 (35.1%), 6-14 3FG (42.9%), 13 TO

SU Individual Stats:
Azizi - 10 pts, 3 reb, 2 blocks, 2 TO (27 min)
Stephenson - 3 pts, 4 assts, 3 reb, 2 steals, 0 TO (24 min)
Gordon - 2 pts, 6 reb (15 min)
George - 12 pts, 1 reb, 1 steal (22 min)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on January 20, 2007, 08:31:46 PM
Other SCAC action:

Trinity 65
Centre 60
Final

Oglethorpe 85
Sewanee 71
Final
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on January 20, 2007, 10:59:32 PM
The Lady Petrels avenge their only conference loss of the season with a very convincing win over a scrappy Sewanee team.  The game wasn't as close as the 14 point margin might seem with the Lady Petrels leading by nearly 25 when the bench was emptied.  Sewanee's Renninger was hittin the 3's early but fell cold in the second half an allowed the Petrels to pull away with another balanced scoring attempt with 4 in double figure's. 

Kulavic 19 pts  5 reb. 4 ast. 4 St.   

Findley  17 pts.  8 reb.  5 ast.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on January 24, 2007, 04:58:17 PM
Any thoughts on this week's SCAC matchups?  Any predictions on upsets?  Will OU keep its current 11 win streak going?  Can Austin redeem themselves from the 26 point loss they suffered earlier this season to Hendrix at Hendrix?  DePauw vs. Rhodes - always a battle.  Should be a good weekend of games!

Friday:
Centre at Millsaps
DePauw at Rhodes
Sewanee at Trinity
Oglethorpe at Southwestern

Saturday:
Hendrix at Austin
Oglethorpe at Trinity

Sunday:
Sewanne at Southwestern
Centre at Rhodes
DePauw at Millsaps
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 25, 2007, 12:53:24 AM
How commonly are the SCAC teams making the Southwestern-Trinity trip in a Friday/Saturday?

Are they doing it if they can get easy plane flights out of Austin or San Antonio?

Thanks
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on January 25, 2007, 08:22:41 AM
I've asked that same question for years.  What I've been told at the games is that those schools choose to do that because its cheaper to fly back and also gets them back in a a relatively decent time to their respective city (so the players aren't having to get back real late and then head to early morning classes).  I'm not sure if this is the real underlying reason... but it does make sense.  (Plus, it gets those schools ready for the conference tournament where back to back games are played)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: airball1 on January 25, 2007, 07:39:40 PM
It's all about flights: timing and expense. OU could not secure a flight Sunday evening at a reasonable time and price.  Next season should be even more interesting with the addition of Colorado College and Birmingham Southern. The conference schedule goes to 16 games from 14 also. Pack your bags, the Petrels will be on the move!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on January 25, 2007, 09:32:58 PM
Quote from: roaring0506 on January 25, 2007, 08:22:41 AM
and also gets them back in a a relatively decent time to their respective city (so the players aren't having to get back real late and then head to early morning classes). 

This was the reasoning I was always given as well. 

Although, I can say that the WGRE crew wasn't a big fan of it when we were on a bus somewhere in North Georgia at 2am when we made a Sewanee/Oglethorpe trip on a Friday/Saturday a couple years back.  I think that's the only time DPU played a Fri/Sat roadie that I can recall in the past couple of years. 

I sure didn't envy Trinity and Southwestern this past weekend, either.  That's a tough bus ride between Greencastle and Danville.

I would imagine that it's probably easier on the players as students, but harder on the players as players...if that makes any sense.  I don't think I'd like it very much if I were a coach, either.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on January 26, 2007, 10:55:20 PM
Oglethorpe 83
Southwestern 68


OU:
Findley - 23 pts, 6 reb, 1 steal, 1 TO (21 min)
Kulavic - 20 pts, 4 reb, 4 asst, 2 steal, 5 TO (32 min)
Richmann - 14 pts, 6 reb, 1 asst, 2 steals (27 min)

SW:
George - 24 pts, 8 reb, 4 steals, 1 reb, 1 TO (34 min)
Kainthla - 9 pts, 5 asst, 3 reb, 3 TO (28 min)
Gordon - 9 pts, 4 reb, 3 steals, 2 TO (21 min)

Trinity 78
Sewanee 55


TU:
Matthews - 12 pts, 12 reb, 4 blk, 2 steals, 2 TO (18 min)
King - 13 pts, 6 reb, 2 TO (16 min)
Hurlbutt - 13 pts, 3 reb (18 min)

U of S:
Renninger - 10 pts, 3 asst,1 reb (30 min)
Pettay - 8 pts, 2 reb, 2 asst (14 min)
Knowlton - 3 pts, 9 reb, 2 TO (25 min)

DePauw 82
Rhodes 54


DPU:
Bondi - 16 pts, 4 reb, 2 steals, 1 TO (26 min)
McGonigal - 10 pts, 4 reb, 3 asst, 4 steals, 1 TO (18 min)
Doughty - 8 pts, 8 asst, 2 steals, 3 TO (21 min)

RC:
Jessee - 16 pts, 4 reb, 3 blk, 3 steals (22 min)
Atnip - 10 pts, 1 blk, 9 TO (29 min)
Farrell - 8 pts, 4 reb, 3 asst, 3 TO (27 min)


No Millsaps v. Centre score yet...

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 28, 2007, 05:06:55 PM
DPU 45, Millsaps 22 19:00 left.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on January 28, 2007, 08:05:56 PM
DePauw 88
Millsaps 57


DPU:
Bondi - 17 pts, 5 reb, 2 asst, 3 steals, 1 TO (23 min)
McGonigal - 14 pts, 7 reb, 1 steal, 0 TO (19 min)
Marshall - 13 pts, 6 reb, 1 asst, 2 TO (12 min)
Bailey - 11 pts, 11 reb, 1 asst, 1 blk, 1 TO (19 min)
Gr. Haehl - 11 pts, 6 asst, 2 reb, 1 steal, 0 TO (19 min)

MC:
Adams - 14 pts, 6 reb, 2 steal, 5 TO (31 min)
Sturgis - 13 pts, 4 reb, 2 TO (22 min)
Frese - 12 pts, 4 reb, 3 asst, 4 TO (35 min)
Dickerson - 10 pts, 5 reb, 2 steal, 1 asst, 5 TO (33 min)

Southwestern 75
Sewanee 65


SU:
George - 23 pts, 5 reb, 3 blk, 1 asst, 1 steal, 3 TO (30 min)
Stephenson - 18 pts, 4 reb, 1 asst, 1 steal, 1 TO (30 min)
Azizi - 16 pts, 9 reb, 2 asst, 4 TO (27 min)

U of S:
Knowlton - 10 pts, 7 reb, 2 blk, 0 TO (15 min)
Renninger - 14 pts, 6 reb, 1 asst, 1 steal, 2 TO (35 min)
Miller - 11 pts, 3 reb, 5 asst, 2 steal, 1 blk, 4 TO (30 min)

Rhodes 68
Centre 57


RC:
Farrell - 31 pts, 6 reb, 4 asst, 3 steal, 6 TO (35 min)
Lytle - 6 pts, 7 reb, 1 asst, 1 TO (28 min)
Orth - 6 pts, 6 reb, 3 steals, 0 TO (11 min)

CC:
Goodman - 25 pts, 4 reb, 4 asst, 7 steals, 1 blk, 4 TO (38 min)
Loveless - 9 pts, 2 reb, 1 TO (25 min)
Jones - 4 pts, 9 reb, 3 asst, 1 TO (28 min)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on January 30, 2007, 03:55:09 PM
New poll out this afternoon.  DePauw up a couple to #8. 

I believe Hendrix picked up precisely 1 vote from last week.  Oglethorpe still pulled down a couple of votes despite the loss in San Antonio on Sunday..

Not SCAC related, but after not being ranked last week, 14-4 Wash U. not only entered in the poll at #11, but pulled a down a first place vote as well.  Odd.... to say the least.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 30, 2007, 10:02:46 PM
Beat three ranked teams in a row, two of them handily.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on February 03, 2007, 01:40:43 PM
DePauw 37
Centre 28
Halftime
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on February 03, 2007, 02:58:18 PM
DePauw 77
Centre 46
Final


DPU stats:
27-54 FG (50%), 7-15 3 FG (46.7%), 17 OBs, 43-31 rebounding margin.  Held Centre to 15-55 FG shooting (27.3%).  DePauw only led by 9 at halftime, but went on a 31-2 run in the 2nd half to break the game open.

Bondi - 13 pts, 8 reb
Pruzin - 5 pts, 6 reb, 5 steals
Doughty - 8 pts, 4 asst
Gr. Haehl - 6 pts, 4 asst
Bailey - 12 pts
Lowes - 10 pts
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 04, 2007, 06:05:46 PM
Big Win for the Lady Petrels in front of a raucus crowd at the Dorough Fieldhouse vs. Hendrix.

The game was close throughout with OU only leading by 4 at Halftime.  Some hot shooting in the second half allowed OU to take control of the game and put it out of reach midway through, leading by as much as 28 when the bench began to empty.  A trio of defenders were used to "contain" Huggins as she still scored a team high of 18 points (5-17 shooting though) for the Warriors earning most of her points from the line (8-9).  With the win OU improves to 8-2, while Hendrix falls to 8-2.  If both teams win out is it a head to head w/l tiebreaker or overall winning percentage or how would the tie be settled?

Oglethorpe
Kulavic-  24 pts (3-3 from 3)  6 reb in 31 minutes   22pts in the second half

Findley   26 pts (6-9 from 3)  3 reb and 3 steals in 33 minutes

Corbett  10 pts in 22 minutes

Richman 10 pts in 31 minutes

Hendrix
Huggins  18 pts on 5-17 shooting... no 3's and 5 to's  36 minutes

Hicks    9 pts  3 reb   5 fouls  30 minutes

Merritt  11 pts  7 reb  32 minutes

Clark    16 pts 4 reb  3 steal off the bench in 26 minutes


As a personal note- I don't see Hendrix going very far only playing 7 players.  While they are all quality you can expect them to fizzle at the end.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 04, 2007, 06:08:42 PM
forgot to post the score

Oglethorpe  87

Hendrix  69
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on February 05, 2007, 07:48:50 AM
The tie breaker on seeding in the past has been head-to-head as the first tiebreaker.  Since OU and Hendrix only play once this year, OU would be seeded in front of Hendrix if the two teams are tied at the end of the season.

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on February 07, 2007, 11:23:26 AM
I know the regional rankings come out this week... but is it today or tomorrow?  Just wondering if anyone knows off the top of their head. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 07, 2007, 12:48:57 PM
Allegedly today, but some years it doens't make it out until Thursday.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on February 07, 2007, 02:26:09 PM
thanks!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 11, 2007, 07:06:54 PM
Oglethorpe fought to a hard earned win against Rhodes today to finish up a weekend sweep of Millsaps and Rhodes.  Oglethorpe overcame the loss of two starters to win 79-67 against Rhodes and are now tied for 1st place in the SCAC, but hold the tiebreaker against Depauw.  With the win Oglethorpe completed the first ever undefeated season at home in the history of the program.   For the game they were led by Super Sophmore's  Kulavic  26 pts.  6 Reb. and 5 Ast.   and Findley 21 pts and a career high 13 rebounds.  CONGRATS to the Lady Petrel's on a great season and good luck next weekend when you travel to Depauw and Centre.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bubba the Petrel on February 15, 2007, 07:39:52 AM
Updated Regional Rankings:

Great Lakes 
1.  Calvin  15-0 21-1
2.  DePauw 13-3 20-3
3.  Denison  17-3  19-4
4.  Wilmington (Ohio)  17-4 19-4
5.  Hope  14-3 19-3
6.  Transylvania  15-5 16-7 

South
1.  Howard Payne  21-1 22-1
2.  Oglethorpe  17-3  18-5
3.  McMurry  19-3  20-3 
4.  Maryville (Tennessee) 16-2 19-3
5.  Randolph-Macon  17-3 18-4
6.  Hardin-Simmons 17-4 18-4
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on February 16, 2007, 07:40:53 PM
DePauw 80
Sewanee 47
Final


Stats:
DPU: 34-69 FG (49.3%), 5-12 3FG (41.7%) Outrebounded UOS 43-26, 14 TO, 23 assts, 36 Bench points compared to UOS's 16 pts.

UOS: 16-50 FG (32%), 3-14 3FG (21.4%), 22 TO

DePauw Key Individual Stats:
Pruzin - 9 pts, 3 reb, 4 asst, 4 steals (20 min)
Doughty - 6 pts, 6 asst, 6 steals (18 min)
Bondi - 18 pts, 9-12 FG, 3 reb (22 min)
Marshall - 8 pts, 9 reb 2 blk (15 min)
McGonigal - 11 pts, 3 reb, 2 asst (18 min)
Travelstead - 6 pts, 6 reb, 1 steal, 1 blk (14 min)

Sewanee Key Individual Stats:

Pettay - 15 pts, 5 reb, 2 steals (31 min)
Wills - 10 pts, 3 reb, 1 asst, 2 steal (29 min)
Phillips - 9 pts, 3 reb, 3 asst, 1 steal (21 min)


Senior Liz Bondi reaches her 1000th point in three seasons.  She becomes only the 9th person in DePauw history to reach this milestone.

This sets up the fight for overall conference champion on senior night this Sunday at DePauw vs. Oglethorpe (assuming they win at Centre).  Should be a great game!!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on February 16, 2007, 08:18:28 PM
...and DePauw senior Suzy Doughty becomes the SCAC's all-time assist leader!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on February 18, 2007, 02:53:27 PM
DePauw 47
Oglethorpe 28
Halftime
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on February 18, 2007, 04:02:49 PM
DePauw 95
Oglethorpe 58

Final

Stats:

DPU: 34-66 FG (51.5%), 10-17 3FG (58.8%), 37-30 rebounding margin, 21 assists on 34 FG, 18 TO, 46 bench points, 15 of the 18 Tigers who played scored

OU: 21-57 FG (36.8%), 5-13 3FG (38.5%), 11 asst, 26 TO, 12 bench points

Key Individual Stats:

DPU:
Doughty - 13 pts, 3 asst, 1 steal, 1 reb,  (21 min)
Pruzin - 11 pts, 4 reb, 3 asst (21 min)
Bondi - 17 pts, 3 reb, 3 asst, 3 steal, 1 blk (23 min)
Gr. Haehl - 14 pts, 4 asst, 2 steal, 1 reb (15 min)
Bailey - 6 pts, 5 reb, 1 steal, 1 blk (15 min)

OU:
Findley - 12 pts, 4 reb, 1 asst, 1 steal (29 min)
Kulavic - 11 pts, 3 reb, 4 asst, 3 steal (26 min)
Corbett - 9 pts, 3 reb, 2 asst, 1 steal (20 min)
Grace - 10 pts, 7 reb, 1 blk (25 min)

A great Senior Day in Greencastle.  Congratulations to the Tigers 5 seniors, Bridget Bailey, Liz Bondi, Suzy Doughty, Caitlin McGonigal, and Kristy Mahon! A four year record of 100-15 (and counting!)

DePauw (22-3, 12-2) takes the #1 seed into next weekends SCAC tournament in Memphis.  Oglethorpe (19-6, 11-3) will get the #2 spot.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on February 18, 2007, 07:48:53 PM
SCAC Tournament Pairings announced:

#1 DePauw vs. #8 Sewanee
#2 Oglethorpe vs. #7 Southwestern
#3 Trinity vs. #6 Rhodes
#4 Hendrix vs. #5 Austin

Games start on Friday in Memphis at host Rhodes College.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 19, 2007, 03:56:03 PM
Yesterday afternoon sure was a lot of fun to watch.  I'm pretty sure I wasn't only person to be surprised that the outcome was as one-sided as it was.

If DePauw executes like that every time out this weekend, it's going to be awfully tough sledding for everybody else.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 19, 2007, 08:08:23 PM
DPU I agree that I too wasn't to surprised of yesterday's outcome, but maybe not for the same reasons as you were (and I'm only assuming). 

Don't get me wrong, I think Depauw is a GREAT team and I'm sure they were plenty hyped up on Senior day and to add to that, they had a chance to get revenge on an Oglethorpe team who won on a last second tip in at their place.  But I want to point out that OU was without two of their starters (who played in the previous meeting), both of whom have a chance of making it back for the SCAC tournament.  Hopefully their return will be enough to vault OU into the championship game for a final grudge match against Depauw.

Congratulations to Depauw for winning the regular season championship and it looks like the tournament is shaping up to be a good one.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on February 19, 2007, 09:32:17 PM
I was wondering when an Oglethorpe fan was going to point out OU was without Brooks and Richmann.  I don't think it would have mattered much, though.  DePauw was executing on both ends of the floor, whereas they didn't show up when they played down in Atlanta. 

I would agree that Oglethorpe is a really good team; however, they don't have near the depth that DePauw does.  The game down in Oglethorpe was a bad one for DePauw.  To Oglethorpe's credit, they finished out the game. 

I think a lot of teams in the SCAC would agree that Oglethorpe is one of the hardest places to play (with the combination of lack of fouls called against the home team and OU's aggressive style of play).  Teams get manhandled when they step in to Dourough. 

For example, at DePauw, the foul totals called = DPU 17, OU 22; at Oglethorpe back in January, foul totals called = DPU 12, OU 8.  At Centre, CC 23, OU 19; at Oglethorpe, CC 16, OU 12.

Obviously, you can say there's an advantage playing at everyone's home gym (and I would agree).  I just think thats one of the things that hurts OU come tournament time - that they don't play on their home floor and get those type of calls (or no-calls).  Just an opinion. 

Again, I do think Oglethorpe is/has a good team, and I would love to see DPU play OU in the final with the addition of Richmann and Brooks (what's wrong with them anyway??). With a lot of teams in the conference playing currently, it should make for an exciting tourament.  I, too, am anxious to watch this weekend!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 19, 2007, 11:09:01 PM
I agree that Depauw's depth is second to none and that is a major area where they separate themselves from other teams.  They are very disciplined, well coached, and a talented bunch.

As far as not pointing out the injuries earlier... didn't want to give the competition a leg up on scouting.  Brook's hurt her hand in the Hendrix game... doesn't look as serious as thought before.  I'm not quite sure what the end prognosis was on Richman but she'll be back for the tourney.  It was probably a good idea to sit both these past two weekends with 3 games against teams they could win and a game at Depauw that would have been hard pressed with the whole team at 100%.

I agree that OU is a hard place to play (especially when it's full)  but the girl's game earlier in the year had 222 on a Sunday afternoon.  DPU had 500 on senior day... maybe that factored into the extremely lopsided score...? (probably not)

Either way... I respect the accomplishments and the way the Depauw WOMEN's team is coached and plays.  Too bad I can't make it up to Memphis for the tourney... it always falls on our first weekend of tennis matches. 

while I'm at it... I might as well post my predictions- it's seems like everyone on the guys side is doing it... lets see if we can get it started here.

1. Depauw     vs.   8. Sewanee          Depauw big
4. Hendrix      vs    5. Austin               Hendrix in a close one
2. Oglethorpe vs.  7. Southwestern   Oglethorpe by 8-12
3. Trinity         vs.  6. Rhodes              Trinity big

1. Depauw      vs.    4. Hendrix           Depauw big
2. Oglethorpe  vs.   3. Trinity              Oglethorpe  close

Championship
1. Depauw   vs.      2. Oglethorpe       rain out... co-champions
both teams are given automatic bids to the tournament

If it can happen in tennis and baseball... I say it happens in basketball too.  Good luck to all teams
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 19, 2007, 11:18:29 PM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on February 19, 2007, 11:09:01 PM
Either way... I respect the accomplishments and the way the Depauw WOMEN's team is coached and plays.  Too bad I can't make it up to Memphis for the tourney... it always falls on our first weekend of tennis matches. 

Championship
1. Depauw   vs.      2. Oglethorpe       rain out... co-champions
both teams are given automatic bids to the tournament

If it can happen in tennis and baseball... I say it happens in basketball too.  Good luck to all teams

I gather that means you're not a Fen fan.   :D

Also, I think Oglethorpe might have a chance at a Pool C for the 2nd straight year.  They were 2nd in the region last week.  It'll be interesting to see how that changes this week.  They might need to get to Sunday to do it.  They still pulled down a couple votes in the poll this week despite the squeaker at Centre and Sunday's result.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on February 20, 2007, 10:39:14 AM
First Round

#1 DePauw vs. #8 Sewanee  -->  20 pt. game
#4 Hendrix vs #5 Austin         --> Upset game... Austin's playing well right now (4-8 pt game)
#2 Oglethorpe vs. #7 Southwestern  --> 10 pt. game
#3 Trinity   vs. #6 Rhodes    --> Close early on.. then TU by 15

Semi-Final


#1 DePauw   vs. #5 Austin     --> Revenge... DPU by 10-15
#2 Oglethorpe vs. #3 Trinity           --> If OU doesn't have Richmann/Brooks back, TU by 5
#2 Oglethorpe vs. #3 Trinity --> If Richmann/Brooks are back, OU by 5.

Championship


#1 DePauw vs. #3 Trinity  --> DPU by 5-10
#1 DePauw vs. #2 Oglethorpe --> DPU 5-10, OU gets Pool C bid


Go (DPU) Tigers!! ;D
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 20, 2007, 01:04:38 PM
New QOWI index today.  DePauw is 8th.  Oglethorpe is 29th, which is a pretty nice number to have.  It does look like they'll be one of the higher QOWI conference runner-ups if they get to Sunday.  If they do, they'll add on a win over #62 Trinity in all likelyhood.  That'll certainly give a boost. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on February 20, 2007, 01:31:51 PM
Where do you find the QOWI index posted??
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 20, 2007, 01:41:03 PM
Pat posts it over on the Pool C board under Multi-Region Topics.

http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=2920.105 (http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=2920.105)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: luvandbball08 on February 20, 2007, 02:58:33 PM
To whomever thought that Ogelthorpe's loss had something to do with missing two key players, the size of the crowd, or even the fact that it was senior day, should consider the fact that the first time these two met this season, it was an uncharacteristic game for DPU.

Though OU did get the W, it was on a last second shot.  Which means that DPU came all the way back from a poorly played basketball game.  I am not excusing the fact that the tigers lost fair and square, but I am saying that if you take away all the factors mentioned above, DPU still would have come up on top on this past Sunday.  They are the better team.

The SCAC tourney will be really interesting with OU at the #2 seed, possibly seeing DPU again...a game that will even the score.

I wish i could be there to see the action live!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 21, 2007, 12:09:28 AM
Luv,

I was not saying that the reason that OU lost was because of those factors... just stating that Depauw had alot to play for that day (i.e. Senior day, Revenge, Playing in front of a large crowd of their peers).  I think if the teams played 10 games Depauw would win over half.  Don't get me wrong, I think Depauw is a great team and I know they will represent the SCAC well in the NCAA's.  You also have to give Oglethorpe some credit.  Starting 4 sophomore's and 1 junior (Corbett is a Junior athletically).  They are a young team and will be around the top of the SCAC for the next few years... it seems certain with Depauw being at the top year end and year out that this will be a rivalry that will extend throughout next 3-4 years.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on February 21, 2007, 02:36:34 PM
Well... It's Wednesday... so that means two things.  The start of the tournament is two days away... and the release of the All-Conference team.  Last year, the conference added a third team (to go along with honorable mention).  So, any guesses who will make this year's squad?  Rookie-of-the Year? Defensive Player of the Year?  Coach of the year?


Here's my picks for the 2006-07 SCAC All-Tournament Team (in alphabetical order):

First Team:
Liz Bondi, DePauw (Player of the Year)
Suzy Doughty, DePauw
Kendal George, Southwestern
Tori Huggins, Hendrix
Katie Kulavic, Oglethorpe

Second Team:
Ashley Farrell, Rhodes
Anna Findley, Oglethorpe
Bonnie Hicks, Hendrix
Krista Prato-Matthews, Trinity
Cassie Pruzin, DePauw

Third Team:
Gretchen Haehl, DePauw
Steffi Renninger, Sewanee
Biz Richmann, Oglethorpe
Meghan Scholbe, Trinity
Katy Williams, Austin

Honorable Mention (Not really sure how many are) :
LaReina Adams, Millsaps
Lauren Andrews, Trinity
Natasha Azizi, Southwestern
Chelsea Goodman, Centre
Crystal Jessee, Rhodes
Caitlin McGonigal, DePauw
Amanda Morris, Hendrix
Dani Pettay, Sewanee


Coach of the Year: Kris Huffman, DePauw
Rookie of the Year: Steffi Renninger
Defensive Player of the Year: Biz Richmann

Any others have thoughts?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Borat...NOT on February 21, 2007, 04:09:00 PM
Just to throw my opinion in the hat...I don't understand why everyone is predicting Oglethorpe to make it to the final (granted, there was one person who said Trinity could win if Richmann and Brooks don't play).  In their one matchup this year, Trinity was clearly the better team.  The game was at at Home and Trinity only won by 5 points but they led by 9 points or so for the last few minutes of the game.  Richmann hit 2 fade away bank three pointers at the end to cut the deficit to 5.  Oglethorpe had no answer for Prato Matthews or Scholbe in the post as they both had double doubles and Trinity shut down Kuvalic and Findley, Findley spent more time crying than she did actually playing basketball. 

One more comment unrelated to the tournament, I got a chance to see Tori Huggins play for the first time last weekend and although different looking, her shot is one of the most consistent I've seen in a long time.  I was impressed with her ability to get her shot off around the basket for someone of her size. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 21, 2007, 04:23:32 PM
Quote from: Borat...NOT on February 21, 2007, 04:09:00 PM
Just to throw my opinion in the hat...

You're back!  Boy, you sure missed the dart board at the beginning of the year, eh? 

Also, you are referencing one specific game in which, truthfully, I don't think Oglethorpe played all that well.  They shot the ball absolutely horribly in the first period (24%) and then actually came back and played better in the second half.  Coincidentally, they outscored TU in the second half.

San Antonio isn't an easy place to play.  I'll be interested to see the outcome on a neutral court if these two do match-up on Saturday.

Unrelated..sort of.. new region rankings are out.

DePauw still #2 in the Great Lakes.  Oglethorpe fell to 4th in the South.  I'm not sure how I feel about that.  I don't know whether or not I think that hurts OU's Pool C chances or not.  It might.  I still think they're in right now, but this weekend might have something to say about it.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 21, 2007, 10:38:48 PM
Just curious about the new Regional Rankings... hopefully Pat or someone else could help clear it up.  It states Oglethorpe is 18-4 in Region.  By my count they are 18-3 with Regional losses coming to Maryville, Sewanee, and Trinity.   Their other losses are Pacific Lutheran (West Region), Puget Sound (West #3), Depauw (Great Lakes #2).  Could this mixup in the number of losses explain how they dropped from #2 to #4?  I see the two teams ahead of them have 2 and 3 more wins... but without loosing a region game why else would they drop 2 whole spots?  Granted they had a close call against Centre and lost big to Depauw, but both of those teams were out of region...    Any help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 21, 2007, 10:58:21 PM
I believe a conference loss is a regional loss.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dpufan on February 21, 2007, 11:46:03 PM
I don't know about if the number of games OU lost in-region is correct; however, I do know that Olgethorpe is in the South region and DePauw is in the Great Lakes region. Their loses to eachother should not effect their regional rankings.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 22, 2007, 12:05:37 AM
Well, take DePauw.  They have a record of 22-3 and a region record of 15-3.  They technically haven't lost to anybody in the Great Lakes region.  Illinois Wesleyan is in the Central Region.  The other two losses are to Austin and Oglethorpe.  Those are both South Region teams.  However, because they're conference losses, the last two are region losses. 

Sounds wierd, I know.  But, it almost has to be that way.  Going by the region listing on the front page, DePauw's regional record would be 1-0 (Kenyon). 

In all my time hanging around people who actually know what they're talking about, I believe games that affect a team's regional record are games in the conference and games against teams less than 200 miles away, thusly making IWU a regional loss.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Borat...NOT on February 22, 2007, 12:40:01 AM
DPU, I just had to throw my name in the hat at this exciting time of year.  The stat sheet might not show that Oglethorpe played well but it was more due to Trinity's defense than an inept Oglethorpe offense.  All of Oglethorpes misses were contested and Trinity did a good job of not letting them get many easy break opportunities.  Trinity also forced Kulavic into at least 4 or 5 traveling calls if I remember correctly.  There is no question that Trinity has had a dissapointing year thus far but they have the talent to win the tournament.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 22, 2007, 01:32:45 AM
Borat... being an Oglethorpe fan I've seen many of their games.  Kulavic averages 4.5 turnovers a game and it seems like 75% are traveling calls, so don't feel to special.

Quote from: Borat...NOT on February 21, 2007, 04:09:00 PM
Trinity shut down Kuvalic and Findley, Findley spent more time crying than she did actually playing basketball. 

Granted Kulavic didn't have her best scoring game... the defense could have had a reason to do with that (I don't know I wasn't there), but Findley was 4 of 8 from 3... and played 28 minutes  (even with fouling out) only 2 minutes short of her conference average.  How is that shutting her down?  And seriously... do you not have anything better to do than get on this board and insult young ladies- regarding the Findley crying comment.  Come on, have more class than that. Sounds to me that you're a little bitter that OU is no longer to doorstep of the SCAC and you're actually having to work to get the win.  How come when OU looses you attribute it to "stellar defense" and an "inept offense" maybe they just had a bad game?  DPU had bad games against Austin and Oglethorpe- it can happen to anyone. 

Quote from: Borat...NOT on February 22, 2007, 12:40:01 AM
There is no question that Trinity has had a dissapointing year thus far but they have the talent to win the tournament.

Depauw would win 10 times out of 10 vs. Trinity... they are in a class of their own




Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 22, 2007, 07:28:58 AM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on February 21, 2007, 10:38:48 PM
Just curious about the new Regional Rankings... hopefully Pat or someone else could help clear it up.  It states Oglethorpe is 18-4 in Region.  By my count they are 18-3 with Regional losses coming to Maryville, Sewanee, and Trinity.   Their other losses are Pacific Lutheran (West Region), Puget Sound (West #3), Depauw (Great Lakes #2).  Could this mixup in the number of losses explain how they dropped from #2 to #4?  I see the two teams ahead of them have 2 and 3 more wins... but without loosing a region game why else would they drop 2 whole spots?  Granted they had a close call against Centre and lost big to Depauw, but both of those teams were out of region...    Any help would be appreciated.

Petrel, please go to the Handbook (http://www.ncaa.org/library/handbooks/basketball/2007/2007_d3_w_basketball_handbook.pdf) to understand the criteria that the committee uses for its regional rankings and national commitee uses for the selections. :)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 22, 2007, 10:10:55 AM
Ralph,

Thanks a bunch... that helped clear up a few other things I was fuzzy on.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Borat...NOT on February 22, 2007, 10:31:01 PM
My comment about shutting down Oglethorpes offense came from the fact that Trinity held them 15 points below their season average.  I guess you could say Findley had a decent game because she had 12 points but she shot only 36% from the field compared to a season average of almost 44%.  Kulavic had only 8 points and had 7 turnovers, this is well below her season average in points and well above her turnover average. 

The point of my post was that I don't see why everyone is overlooking Trinity and just assuming Oglethorpe will play DePauw in the finals. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 23, 2007, 12:37:21 AM
Quote from: Borat...NOT on February 22, 2007, 10:31:01 PM
The point of my post was that I don't see why everyone is overlooking Trinity and just assuming Oglethorpe will play DePauw in the finals. 

I'm picking TU in that game, if we get that far.  It's the SCAC tourney.  Where would we be without TU in the final?  Almost has to be DPU/Trinity doesn't it?  It's a rule.

I said OU didn't play that well in San Antonio.  Well they sure didn't play well last weekend, either.  I know they didn't have all the horses in the stable, but they still need to play a lot better than they did or that noon tip with Southwestern might be Barney Rubble Trouble.

IF OU does make it to Saturday, There isn't a whole lot of size down there for OU to stop Prato-Matthews.  She is simply too big and too dominant.  She went for 15 & 10 the first time they met, and that was with Biz Richmann underneath. 

OU's got to shoot it better than they did last time.  TU's giving 38% from the field.  If they shoot 38%, especially with all the 3's they jack up, it might be enough.  Hard telling.  I think it'll be a good one to watch either way. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 23, 2007, 04:45:06 PM
Oglethorpe did play better.  They win 80-67.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 23, 2007, 05:52:26 PM
Well, (insert something about the best laid plans here)

Rhodes 86
Trinity 73

I'm officially 0-2 for predicting games in this tournament.  Awesome.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 24, 2007, 12:36:30 AM
Interesting Day...   Austin upset Hendrix... Rhodes Upset Trinity.... Findley scores 37 in the win for The Petrels while going 7-14 from 3! in the win and Depauw went about business as usuall with their starters only playing about 20 minutes a piece. 

With the two matchups left interesting things could happen.

Oglethorpe has beaten Rhodes both times this season- Handily at their place and then by 12 at home (without 2 starters).  They always say it's hard to beat the same team 3 times in one season... this should be a tough game, but I see the Petrel coming out on top.  Kulavic has owned the Lynx scoring over 22 ppg against them.

Austin was the last conference team to be Depauw (and it was at Depauw!)  With that said, Depauw will handle the Roo's eventually winning by 14 plus.

That puts OU and Depauw in the championship... and the last time I checked the weather it's a 98% chance of rain.... to bad that's in Atlanta.   I call it a toss up- the best team will win.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on February 24, 2007, 08:58:00 AM
It was an interesting day.  I didn't see the Rhodes upset coming, but I think that Austin should have been the favorite to win (as I mentioned the other day).  They are playing well right now, and Hendrix relies on only two players.  It's hard to get thru a 25 game year relying on the scoring efforts of 2 people.. This is what's troubled the Warriors the last couple of years. 

I do think the next two games will be fun to watch.  I'm still gonna put Oglethorpe over Rhodes (unless the Lynx go unconscious from the field and again burn up the nets).  I see OU's defense bothering them.

As for DePauw and Austin, I wish I could get down there to see the game.  I know most teams would say they hate losing, but this Tiger team really HATES losing.  They knew they didn't play well and get the job done when they played down in Texas in their last game vs. the Roos, and I'm sure that they welcome the opportunity to play Austin.  They shot a dismal 35.1% from the field, 22.7% from beyond the arc (DePauw leads the conference and the nation in both FG-48.6% and 3FG-41.3%), and didn't take care of the ball (23 TO).  One things for sure, though.  They will be ready to play today!  My guess - DePauw by double figures.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 24, 2007, 04:06:21 PM
Huge win for the Lady Petrels today as they beat Rhodes by 5 to advance to the Championship Game of the SCAC tournament!  During the game, a few records fell.  Findley now has 67 points  13  3's  Scoring average 33.5 and most 3's in a game (7) yesterday and (6) today.  I think this win should solidify their birth into the NCAA tournament.  Looks to be a great match up tomorrow against (Depauw/Austin winner).  Findley is shooting lights out and some of the other key role players are stepping up big.  Wish I could be there girls... you're continuing to make the school proud of you!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scaccommish on February 24, 2007, 09:52:20 PM
All-SCAC Team announced:
http://www.scac-online.org/basketball_womens/07all-scac.htm (http://www.scac-online.org/basketball_womens/07all-scac.htm)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on February 25, 2007, 02:59:16 PM
2006-07 SCAC Champions: DEPAUW UNIVERSITY

DePauw 73
Oglethorpe 60
Final


All-Tournament Team:
Liz Bondi, sr., DePauw (MVP)
Emily Marshall, fr., DePauw
Anna Findley, so, Oglethorpe
Katie Kulavic, so, Oglethorpe
Ashley Farrell, sr, Rhodes

DPU:
Bondi - 16 pts, 10 reb, 2 blk, 2 steal, 1 asst, 2 TO
Marshall - 9 pts, 9 reb
Doughty - 8 pts, 5 asst, 5 steals, 4 reb
McGonigal, Gr. Haehl - 8 pts
Pruzin - 7 pts

OU:
Kulavic - 16 pts, 6 reb, 5 asst, 1 steal, 5 TO
Findley - 12 pts, 3 asst, 2 reb
Corbett - 11 pts, 1 reb, 1 asst, 6 TO
Brightwell - 10 pts, 7 reb

DePauw heads to the Big Dance, and Oglethorpe will have to wait to see if they can get an at-large bid.  I think they should have a fairly good shot at it.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on February 26, 2007, 10:03:58 AM
The Brackets are out.

DePauw is in an interesting bracket this year.  Looks like DePauw faces Transylvania in the first round on Friday, and if they win, would play the winner of the Denison/Hope game on Saturday.  Transy is 19-8 this year, and were runner-ups in the HCAC (the conference that Rose-Hulman just moved into).  They are led by 6'0 soph center Julie Leach's 19.6 PPG and 10.7 RPG.  Senior guard Cindy Beavin contributes 10.0 PPG and 5.52 assists, while freshman guard Brittany Henderlight and junior guard Jessica Gilbert average 9.5 PPG/2.1 RPG and 9.1 PPG/4.6 RPG respectively. 


Oglethorpe will meet Wilmington in the first round game, and if victorious, would play the winner of the Calvin/Thomas More game.


Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dpufan on February 26, 2007, 11:56:20 AM
Brackets are out.....Let's make some predictions!!!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 26, 2007, 12:48:48 PM
I couldn't help but laugh at the irony.  All that squawking last year after  Hope came to the Neal Fieldhouse earned them nothing more than a return trip.

I was kind of wondering about that.  I didn't see how Hope could get away from Calvin (#1 in the Great Lakes) and avoid coming back to DePauw (#2 in the Great Lakes region). 

Can't have it both ways, I suppose.  They might rather play Calvin again. :D
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 26, 2007, 10:01:04 PM
Definately glad about going to the NCCA's for the second straight year but the travel arrangements have left me wondering.  Using www.mappoint.msn.com (which the NCAA uses)  Oglethorpe is 513 miles from Wilmington.... but using the shortest route possible they are 497 miles away, thus causing Oglethorpe to drive to Ohio for the first round.  We're talking about 3 miles!!!   Are you telling me the NCAA is so cheap they can't give us 3 miles when we're already traveling a whooping 497.   I know they're going to go the long way because it's 20 minutes faster, but c'mon the tournament is a reward!  These girls have worked extremely hard to get there!  Reward them by flying them up there, not making them drive 500+ miles (you've already grouped them in a bracket that's out of their convenience for yours... give them a break.)

Now that I'm done venting-   GOOD LUCK to both Oglethorpe and Depauw in the upcoming tournament... we hope to see you again in the 4th round  ;)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 26, 2007, 10:26:45 PM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on February 26, 2007, 10:01:04 PM
Definately glad about going to the NCCA's for the second straight year but the travel arrangements have left me wondering.  Using www.mappoint.msn.com (which the NCAA uses)  Oglethorpe is 513 miles from Wilmington.... but using the shortest route possible they are 497 miles away, thus causing Oglethorpe to drive to Ohio for the first round.  We're talking about 3 miles!!!   Are you telling me the NCAA is so cheap they can't give us 3 miles when we're already traveling a whooping 497.   I know they're going to go the long way because it's 20 minutes faster, but c'mon the tournament is a reward!  These girls have worked extremely hard to get there!  Reward them by flying them up there, not making them drive 500+ miles (you've already grouped them in a bracket that's out of their convenience for yours... give them a break.)

Now that I'm done venting-   GOOD LUCK to both Oglethorpe and Depauw in the upcoming tournament... we hope to see you again in the 4th round  ;)
Welcome to the playoffs.  You're new to the playoffs, aren't you.   :D ;D :D

Frugal, not cheap!  Oglethorpe may take the travel stipend and use it towards the charter flight expense.  Maybe you have a patron who will pick up the tab.

Actually, the conventional wisdom is "How many plane flights are required? And not one more."

That is why we in the ASC are glad to have McMurry and HPU separated, even if it means that McMurry flies to the northwest.

That 497 mile trip explains why Oglethorpe can be bussed to Wilmington and not flown to Brownwood, TX. :)

Good luck  You are fortunate that you won't meet DPU until the 4th round!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 27, 2007, 01:03:55 AM
Ralph,

Am I new? YES!...Very New... These are the first two times in the history of the program these past two years... but I'm always looking to learn more about how things work around here.

Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 26, 2007, 10:26:45 PM
Frugal, not cheap!  Oglethorpe may take the travel stipend and use it towards the charter flight expense.  Maybe you have a patron who will pick up the tab.

You must be new to Oglethorpe...they have made a career of being "frugal".  My past experiences tell me the basketball team will be making good use of the bus the great NCAA has made available to us.  And yes we are glad we won't see Depauw for the 4th time this year till the 4th round. (HOPEFULLY!)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bubba the Petrel on February 27, 2007, 09:49:48 AM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on February 27, 2007, 01:03:55 AMYou must be new to Oglethorpe...they have made a career of being "frugal".  My past experiences tell me the basketball team will be making good use of the bus the great NCAA has made available to us.

Tell you what, FotP - I'll cover the cost of a charter flight (and provide the start-up funds for a football team) if I win the Mega Millions lottery tonight. ;D
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 27, 2007, 11:35:51 AM
Sounds good.... good luck to you
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 27, 2007, 12:14:20 PM
Quote from: Bubba the Petrel on February 27, 2007, 09:49:48 AM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on February 27, 2007, 01:03:55 AMYou must be new to Oglethorpe...they have made a career of being "frugal".  My past experiences tell me the basketball team will be making good use of the bus the great NCAA has made available to us.

Tell you what, FotP - I'll cover the cost of a charter flight (and provide the start-up funds for a football team) if I win the Mega Millions lottery tonight. ;D

We have heard it here first...

"The Bubba the Petrel Foundation for Academic Excellence at Oglethorpe University".  :D
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bubba the Petrel on February 27, 2007, 12:43:28 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 27, 2007, 12:14:20 PM
We have heard it here first...

"The Bubba the Petrel Foundation for Academic Excellence at Oglethorpe University".  :D

The annual fund already gets my $$$ in support of academics, although I guess I could kick that up a notch in adddition to my generous support of athletics. ;)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 27, 2007, 02:33:43 PM
Quote from: Bubba the Petrel on February 27, 2007, 12:43:28 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 27, 2007, 12:14:20 PM
We have heard it here first...

"The Bubba the Petrel Foundation for Academic Excellence at Oglethorpe University".  :D

The annual fund already gets my $$$ in support of academics, although I guess I could kick that up a notch in adddition to my generous support of athletics. ;)

Didn't I see that one aspect of the "The Bubba the Petrel Foundation for Academic Excellence at Oglethorpe University" was a $5M grant to fund the
"Ronald Sattele Chair of Kinesiological Theory".

;D :D ;D :D ;)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopsfan11 on February 27, 2007, 10:22:44 PM
Anyone know much about the teams that Oglethorpe and DePauw will play in the first round?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on February 28, 2007, 09:45:42 AM
Well, looking at DePauw's first round game, they play a very dangerous Transylvania team.  Their record (19-8) isn't indicative of just how good they are.  They've been hot of late, winning their last 6 before losing in their conference championship to Manchester by 1.  In the 8 losses they've accumulated, they've lost by an average of 8.5 points (take out a loss to Rio Grande and W. Va. Tech, and the average points drops to 4.5 points).  They lost to Wilmington by 7 and beat Rose-Hulman two times out of three.  They are led by a 6'0 sophomore forward who averages 20 ppg/10 rpg, and a 5'6 senior guard who averages 10 ppg/6 assists.  They run pretty much an 8-9 player rotation. 

Oglethorpe's first game is against Wilmington who comes in ranked #16 in the d3hoops final poll with a record of 24-4.  Wilmington's four losses come at the hands of Wittenberg, Mount Union, Capital, and Baldwin Wallace.  They play an 8 player rotation, led by 5'9 jr forward Katie Streck (16.0 ppg/7.3 rpg) and 5'10 senior forward Kelly Peters (15.9 ppg/8.9 rpg).  Two guards both average 9.2 ppg (5'11 Smith and 5'5 Hauke), while senior pt guard Sam Hood runs the show (6.9 ppg/5.6 apg).  Wilmington runs an uptempo style, and love to press - very similar to Oglethorpe.  It should be a really fun game to watch. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 02, 2007, 10:58:25 PM
Looks like our season came to an end tonight at the hands of a very strong Wilmington team.  But as the announcers said Oglethorpe is a very young team and they will be back again next year.  With that said I look forward to next year, even more so than I did this year because we're bringing back all 5 starters and have a strong recruiting class coming in.  I just wanted to take a minute and thank the girls for playing so hard and making this season so fun to watch... I never saw ya'll loose this year so you're winners in my book and I can't wait til next year.

Good luck to Depauw... continue to represent the SCAC well as our last team in the tourney.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on March 04, 2007, 08:14:04 AM
Congratulations to DePauw for their 74-66 victory over Denison in the second round.  Also to Coach Kris Huffman for earning her 300th victory (300-82) in 14 years.  Best of luck in the Sweet 16!


Any speculation on where the Sweet 16 will be hosted?  DePauw will take on 13th ranked Emmanuel (MA) on Friday.  Calvin was the other winner, and will face either Southern Maine or Fitchburg State.

So, Indiana, Michigan, Massachusetts, or Maine (assuming Southern Maine pulls it out as I am also assuming Fitchburg State wouldn't have the opportunity to host??)  Obviously two teams are going to have to fly, so what is it going to come down to?  I know in the last regional ranking that was released that Calvin was ahead of DePauw; however, it looks like the QOWI went down after there loss to Hope in the MIAA championship?? 

Anyone wanting to throw in there two cents?  Obviously we'll know a lot more after Southern Maine's game at 2... but I'd love to hear some speculation.  Can we get some "brains" to try to answer this??
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DePauw05 on March 04, 2007, 06:22:40 PM
Can someone enlighten me on the wisdom behind sending Calvin, Southern Maine, and DePauw to lowest seed Emmanuel in Boston on Friday?   I doubt it had to do with cost effectiveness of travel to Boston as flights appear to be $800 to $1,000, and hotel rates are likely higher in Boston as well.  Although I'm a biased DePauw fan, I thought Calvin or DePauw would have made more sense as hosts since both are ranked higher and it's a two-school flight situation no matter who hosts. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: goldnblack on March 04, 2007, 07:54:09 PM
Congrats to Depauw and Coach Huffman and staff.  300 wins!! wow! And this team is not done. I figure four more wins will do.

As far as understanding why this regional is not being played in the Midwest is beyond me. I asked the  Hoopsville live show and I was told it was because Emmanual had the higher seed. I am not sure why they had the higher seed!?? This fan is driving to Columbus Ohio and getting a direct flight on Jet Blue for $130 for round trip. There were also some decent flights out of Dayton but I agree the flights out of Indy were pricey. Let's hope I don't get left on the runway for 10 hours with Jet Blue. Check ou the jet Blue web site.

BTW the team that got the real shaft was Texas team going to Iowa!!!!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on March 05, 2007, 12:09:32 AM
Quote from: DePauw05 on March 04, 2007, 06:22:40 PM
Can someone enlighten me on the wisdom behind sending Calvin, Southern Maine, and DePauw to lowest seed Emmanuel in Boston on Friday? 

After a few conversations with some folks who know better at last night's game, I wasn't surprised to hear that Emmanuel was the host.  Here's why:

This is from the front page:

QuoteSites are selected with geography, seeding, quality of facility and availability of area accommodations in mind. For more from Saturday's games, scroll down.

Somebody mentioned that DePauw and Calvin were ranked higher, but notice that Pat Coleman's d3hoops.com Top 25 is a glaring omission from that list.  Sadly.

Emmanuel is 29-1 with the only loss coming to Bowdoin, which is the country's #1 team. They're the higher seed, which is probably the ultimate decider.

Geography was obviously a wash because two teams were flying either way.  I think the quality of facility was pretty much the same.  Emmanuel looks like they have a very nice gymnasium from the pictures.  I heard Calvin's is also very nice. 

I'm sure they can round up enough hotel rooms in a town like Boston.  It's a little bigger than Greencastle or Grand Rapids.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: atn alum on March 08, 2007, 12:35:04 PM
If you can't make it on Friday or Saturday, and have trouble getting DePauw's broadcast feed, please tune in to us:

We'll have all 3 games
http://www.d3hoops.com/audio

* Calvin vs Southern Maine
* Emmanuel vs DePauw
* Saturday's sectional final

Coverage on Friday starts at 5:15pm, Saturday at 6:45 ET

You can e-mail the broadcast crew at cgbears2006@aol.com

If you're at the game, feel free to say hi. Enjoy Boston!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: strikingviking on March 08, 2007, 01:10:48 PM
Wow what a bracket.  Who's going to come out of it?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on March 09, 2007, 10:06:37 AM
It's finally game day, DePauw!  I guess it's finally time to show the rest of the country just how good you are.  Good luck tonight!  D'em up.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on March 09, 2007, 02:37:25 PM
DePauw game notes released:

http://www.depauw.edu/ath/wbasket/2007/DePauwNCAASectnotes1.pdf
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on March 09, 2007, 08:03:52 PM
DePauw 30
Emmanuel 14
9:00 1st half
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on March 09, 2007, 08:21:03 PM
DePauw 41
Emmanuel 21
Halftime
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on March 09, 2007, 08:41:40 PM
DePauw 50
Emmanuel 23
16:40 2nd half

10 diff't players have scored for DePauw.  Only shooting around 40+%, but holding Emmanuel to around 25%
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on March 09, 2007, 08:49:08 PM
DePauw 59
Emmanuel 28
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on March 09, 2007, 09:06:39 PM
DePauw 71
Emmanuel 41
2:00 2nd Half
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on March 09, 2007, 09:16:48 PM
DePauw 74
Emmanuel 50
Final

13 players scored for DePauw.  DePauw will meet Calvin in the Elite 8 tomorrow.  Way to go, both teams, in representing the Great Lakes Region!

I think DePauw should send a thank you to Oglethorpe for preparing them 3 times this season on the aggressive full court press.  It definitely prepared the Tigers in facing the aggressive Emmanuel team. 

DePauw has its hands full with Calvin tomorrow.  Should be a great game! Go Tigers!!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on March 10, 2007, 07:15:05 PM
DePauw 11
Calvin 4
11:00 1st
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on March 10, 2007, 07:20:57 PM
DePauw 11
Calvin 8
8:00 1st half

Winkle has 6 of Calvin's 8 pts.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on March 10, 2007, 07:36:10 PM
DePauw 28
Calvin 20
Halftime

Winkle - 16 pts
7 Tigers scoring for DePauw
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on March 10, 2007, 08:00:29 PM
DePauw 37
Calvin 32
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on March 10, 2007, 08:16:03 PM
DePauw 56
Calvin 38
7:00 2nd half
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on March 10, 2007, 08:33:11 PM
DePauw 67
Calvin 52
1:20 left
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on March 10, 2007, 08:37:51 PM
DePauw 73
Calvin 59
:26
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on March 10, 2007, 08:38:22 PM
Subs are in..... DePauw's headed to Springfield!!!!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: goldnblack on March 11, 2007, 09:07:44 PM
Congrats to the Depauw team!! They really dialed it in this weekend by first slamming Emmanuel on their home floor. It was a virtual clinic on breaking the press of Emmanuel.  Depauw then took care of a great Calvin team with Winkle putting  on quite a show for Calvin in the first half. Calvin, however could not get by Depauw's great balance and depth. Will see you in Springfield, Tigers. Two more wins!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: kelley on March 12, 2007, 12:49:54 PM
Quote from: roaring0506 on March 09, 2007, 08:49:08 PM
DePauw 59
Emmanuel 28

This was a very low scoring game for both teams.  But it did show how strong the bench is for DePauw and how everybody is can score.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on March 12, 2007, 01:16:42 PM
Just for clarity's sake... the final was 74-50.  Not really all that low scoring for Depauw.  Also scored 74 on Saturday against Calvin.  Acutally, have scored 74 in each of the last four games.

I expected Calvin to play well even though they were missing two key pieces of their puzzle.  Lisa Winkle tried awful hard to throw that team on her back, but it just wasn't quite enough.  Calvin didn't shoot very well from anywhere, and DPU made 17 more trips to the stripe.

Mary Washington has had an awfully tough road to get to the Final Four.  Beating #3 Scranton and #1 Bowdoin on back-to-back nights should tell you just about all you need to know.  As of last week, they were first in the nation at FG% defense and gave up the second fewest points in the country.  Yikes.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on March 12, 2007, 05:03:10 PM
Yeah, it should definitely be interesting.  You have the #1 team in the nation in FG and 3 FG% playing the #1 team in the nation in FG defense.  Should be an exciting game for all those fans heading to Springfield!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on March 14, 2007, 09:51:52 AM
The SCAC was well represented on the All-Region team.

Great Lakes Region:
Liz Bondi - First Team
Suzy Doughty - Third Team

South Region:
Tori Huggins - Second Team
Bonnie Hicks - Second Team
Ashley Farrell - Third Team

Congratulations to all of you and your teams.

Two more days DePauw.... Final 4!!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: atn alum on March 15, 2007, 07:57:45 PM
To any of the DePauw regulars on this board...

Hope you have a safe trip if you've headed this way...Please stop by our booth and say howdy if you get a chance.

Safe travels...
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 16, 2007, 05:38:56 PM
Props to DePauw!  Final:  DePauw 67, Mary Washington 61.  :) ;) :D
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on March 17, 2007, 08:13:46 AM
Just wanted to congratulate the DePauw ladies on their victory yesterday and I wish them well in the championship this afternoon.  They have done a fantastic job representing the SCAC as well as DePauw University and I know everyone in the conference will be pulling for a DePauw win this afternoon.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPULefty22 on March 17, 2007, 05:02:18 PM
THE WALNUT AND BRONZE IS COMING TO GREENCASTLE!

55-52, DePauw wins its first ever national championship in any sport. Way to go, ladies!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 17, 2007, 05:03:31 PM
Congratulations to DePauw!  :) ;) :D
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on March 18, 2007, 12:30:51 PM
What an amazing effort for this team in this tournament, especially defensively.  Just did a little number crunching... in the 6 games they played in the tourney:

All six opponents in the tourney were ranked, and DPU allowed just 57 pts/game.  36% FG defense, 36% 3FG defense.

Didn't make the trip either of the last two weekends, and it's tough to make observations thru just the box, but I am absolutely 100% impressed at how good this team defended in this tournament.

Gritted through a tough Mary Washington D on Friday, but like a lot of opponents, DPU turned them over 20+ times and capitalized on it.  Same goes for Wash U.  Got a few more turnovers and turned it into more shot attempts.  They're a great defensive team, and DePauw didn't shoot well yesterday, but neither did Wash U. 

Nothing but gritting it out.  There's a clip of Cassie Pruzin hitting what looks like about a 25-26 footer at a clutch time in the game.  She wasn't hitting yesterday (4-15 from the floor, that was her only 3 in 10 tries) but she got the one when we really needed it. 

Absolutely amazing.  Great job, ladies. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: goldnblack on March 18, 2007, 02:59:46 PM
Just got back from Springfield. It was, in a word, spectacular in spite of the 9 inches of snow! This team led the nation in several offensive categories going into the weekend but in the end it was defense, the low number of turnovers and the team depth that got it done this weekend.  Anytime a team competes for a national it is a long difficult road that requires multiple individuals pulling together as a team. You have to realize that this team started two a day practices 5 months ago. And talk about "road" this team traveled more than any team in the country--from San Deigo, Atlanta, Dallas, St. Louis, Arkansas, Mississippi, Ohio, Kentucky, Memphis twice and Boston (twice in  last 10 days.) This Depauw team had tremendous grit and team chemistry.  Every game, all year, there were different individulas stepping up.

It was the depth of this team that wore down Mary Washington and the never panic attitude that sealed the win. In the final game Depauw was the best team on the floor. This would  not have been as close as the final score if Depauw would have shot like they did against Emmanuel a week earlier 90 miles up the road in Boston. The players however hit the big shots that counted down the stretch. Ah the "defense", as the old addage says, wins games."

Congratulations to a great group of girls who are gutsy, gritty and very talented. Enjoy it because it is a once in a life time journey!! Thanks for the memories! --- Hey but wait 'til next year, Depauw will reload.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 18, 2007, 03:05:11 PM
A lot of teams would shoot more poorly against Mary Washington than against Emmanuel. :)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on March 20, 2007, 09:46:39 PM
http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper912/documents/9ns9vz0v.pdf

Great job, DePauw!  Way to bring the National Championship trophy back to the SCAC!!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on March 21, 2007, 01:58:41 AM
Here's a couple more pictures of the Tigers getting off the bus with the trophy and the group that met them for you peruse at your choosing:

http://www.depauw.edu/univ/wgre/sports_pages/sports_pics/wncaachamps.asp (http://www.depauw.edu/univ/wgre/sports_pages/sports_pics/wncaachamps.asp)

Also, rumor has it that Greencastle Mayor Nancy Michael has declared a DPU Women's Basketball Day.  I think it was Tuesday, but I'm not entirely sure on that fact.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on April 05, 2007, 12:04:46 PM
Congrats again to Bondi and the Tigers!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/scorecard/faces/2007/04/09/
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on April 27, 2007, 10:17:59 AM
Another nice article done on DePauw's Liz Bondi.  The Tiger TENNIS team is currently ranked #1 in the country, with Bondi ranked #1 in her region in singles and doubles (with partner Amrita Padda).

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070427/SPORTS06/704270483/1247/SPORTS
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on May 19, 2007, 05:49:59 PM
After winning two matches today, Liz Bondi has placed herself in the National Championship match tomorrow at noon vs. Washington & Lee's Emily Applegate.  Let's hope she can bring home a SECOND NATIONAL TITLE to the Tigers.

Also worth mentioning, Kristy Mahon, a senior on the women's basketball team and starting shortstop on the DePauw softball team, is currently competing in the softball world series.  The Tigers, unranked in the current softball poll, beat 5th ranked Moravian yesterday, and are currently playing #3 Linfield.  The softball Tigers carry a 37-5 overall record.

Go Tigers!!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: colincondi on May 29, 2007, 08:05:47 PM
Congrats to Bondi... she is what DIII athletics are all about!

Just did this for the GSAC board... the current D3hoops front page intrigued me.  The DPU women easily had the best attendance, and outdrew all but one of the men's teams (Centre), which is pretty impressive.

1)  CC men...           425 (a good figure, but not close to Murval at 1474)
2)  DPU women...     373 (I'm sure figures were helped by hosting NCAA games)
3)  TU men...            359
4)  MC men...            333
5)  DPU men...          298
6)  OU men...            294
7)  SW men...            252
8)  US men...             248
9)  TU women...         233
10) OU women...       228
11) RC women...       205
12) RC men...            183
13) SW women...       152
14) AC men...             150
15) US women...        146
16) MC women...        145
17) CC women...        123
18) AC women...         116
19) HC men...               97
19) HC women...          97  is Hendrix's support that bad or are these #'s off? It's
                                          seems odd they are both at 97...

Where would Depauw's women's average of 373 put them nationally?  Murval was at 562 and not even in the top 10.  It's not like there's a lot to keep the town of Greencastle occupied...

   
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 30, 2007, 11:32:06 AM
I'm pretty sure NCAA Tournament games are not included, actually.
Title: Pre-Season Picks
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on October 16, 2007, 02:45:07 PM
This board has been silent for way to long...  With practice just starting lets hear everyone's predictions for how the conference will end up.

My Predictions:

1. Oglethorpe- returned everyone (minus Harris who came off the bench) and gained a big freshman class.
2. Depauw- The lost Bondi... that alone will allow OU to over come the Tigers
3. Rhodes-  This is Ashley Farrell's team... she'll carry them to a 3rd place finish
4. Trinity-  I expect trinity to reload from a down year and  thought of putting them above Rhodes but feel like they will be more of a force in 2 years.
5. Hendrix- The loss of Huggins and Hicks will really hurt this team but they're a scrappy bunch, had to put them somewhere in the middle.
6. Sewanee-  I feel like Sewanee will be much improved this year.  Although they lose Petay, Reninger looks to be a go to player in the making (at least when I saw her play last year).  Sewanee will go as she goes.
7. Austin- After a go around the Roos will not sneak up on anyone this year.  Teams will be ready for them this year.
8. Southwestern-  They lose George and only 3 Freshmen come in I don't see them improving this year.
9. Centre-  don't know much about them so I put them at 9.
10. Millsaps- Shouldn't give any teams trouble except in an intrasquad scrimmage.


The predictions are not based on statistical information but only the thoughts of a fan who was bored during class.  What does everyone else think?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 16, 2007, 04:29:17 PM
What format will the SCAC use this year?
Title: Re: Pre-Season Picks
Post by: DPU3619 on October 17, 2007, 07:54:20 PM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on October 16, 2007, 02:45:07 PM
2. Depauw- The lost Bondi... that alone will allow OU to over come the Tigers

Sounds an awful lot like "They lost Rush", "They lost Ferguson", and "They lost Argetsinger and Zondor" to me.  :D
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scaccommish on October 17, 2007, 09:48:46 PM
Ralph,

The SCAC will be split into divisions this season with Birmingham-Southern, Centre, DePauw, Oglethorpe, Rhodes and Sewanee in the East and Austin College, Colorado College, Hendrix, Millsaps, Southwestern and Trinity in the West.

Everyone plays 16 conference games - double round-robin (home and away) within division and single round-robin out of division (either home or away). Top 4 teams from each division qualify for SCAC post-season tournament.

Games against BSC will not count in the conference standings, therefore, all East teams will have 14 countable conference games and all West teams will have 15.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on October 17, 2007, 10:53:57 PM
Millsaps will be a much improved team this season.  What that will mean in the way of wins and losses is anyone's guess, but expect a much better team than the 2006-07 Lady Majors.

Keep in mind that Coach Bolton came in in mid-summer last year, there was very little time to do any recruiting, and there was a tremendous lack of experience among the returning players.  For example, LaReina Adams who scored 13 ppg and led the SCAC with 10.8 rpg in 2006-07, had only played a total of 108 minutes the previous season.  Go figure.  It was a difficult situation last year and the team did an excellent job of making the best of the situation.  This year should show a huge improvement, but I certainly understand why Millsaps will probably be ranked last in the preseason poll. 

It should be an interesting year for both basketball teams at Millsaps this season.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 17, 2007, 10:55:28 PM
scacsid, thanks!

That is a great format!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: mark_reichert on October 24, 2007, 02:43:35 PM
I hope a fellow Tip Off Classic host does better, but have any of the DePauw fans been reminded of this:

http://www.d3hoops.com/dailydose/2007/03/03/first-round-reaction/

Look at this way: They only have to reach the second round to have done better than the rest.  If they just qualify they've done better than Trinity.

How bodes the freshman crop and who can replace Bondi as top scorer?

P.S.  How did you end up with three players from Nerinx Hall and two from St. Joseph's Academy?  ???  Add in Barrow and that was six players from the St. Louis area.  Not complaining, just curious.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: mark_reichert on October 24, 2007, 02:46:14 PM
BTW, congrats to Bondi on the Division III Player of the Year, which doesn't seem to have been mentioned here.  With an individual and team championship, it should have been a no-brainer to select her.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: moseshightower on October 25, 2007, 04:33:17 PM
"Look at this way: They only have to reach the second round to have done better than the rest.  If they just qualify they've done better than Trinity."

Mark, Trinity was 24-3 the year after they won the national title with two losses to a Depauw team that was 25-3.  They got shut out of the tournament when the field was just 48 teams.  It was ridiculous because those two were both ranked in the top ten but what I'm trying to say is that it's a little easier for a good team to qualify now.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: mark_reichert on October 25, 2007, 06:02:53 PM
Quote from: moseshightower on October 25, 2007, 04:33:17 PM
Mark, Trinity was 24-3 the year after they won the national title with two losses to a Depauw team that was 25-3.  They got shut out of the tournament when the field was just 48 teams.  It was ridiculous because those two were both ranked in the top ten but what I'm trying to say is that it's a little easier for a good team to qualify now.

Yeah, that got pointed out here:

http://www.d3hoops.com/springfield/07/preview.htm

Hope got the automatic qualifier so the smaller field wouldn't have mattered.

Anyway, DePauw looks to have a better chance of defending its title, assuming it can make up for the loss of its starters.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: goldnblack on October 28, 2007, 07:09:55 PM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on October 16, 2007, 02:45:07 PM

My Predictions:

1. Oglethorpe- returned everyone (minus Harris who came off the bench) and gained a big freshman class.
2. Depauw- The lost Bondi... that alone will allow OU to over come the Tigers
3. Rhodes-  This is Ashley Farrell's team... she'll carry them to a 3rd place finish
4. Trinity-  I expect trinity to reload from a down year and  thought of putting them above Rhodes but feel like they will be more of a force in 2 years.
5. Hendrix- The loss of Huggins and Hicks will really hurt this team but they're a scrappy bunch, had to put them somewhere in the middle.
6. Sewanee-  I feel like Sewanee will be much improved this year.  Although they lose Petay, Reninger looks to be a go to player in the making (at least when I saw her play last year).  Sewanee will go as she goes.
7. Austin- After a go around the Roos will not sneak up on anyone this year.  Teams will be ready for them this year.
8. Southwestern-  They lose George and only 3 Freshmen come in I don't see them improving this year.
9. Centre-  don't know much about them so I put them at 9.
10. Millsaps- Shouldn't give any teams trouble except in an intrasquad scrimmage.

In the words of the infamous football analyst Lee Corso: "Not so fast my friends"

As I see it:

1. Depauw: Yes will miss Bondi, Doughty and McGonigal but will return three starters ( Sr. Kalei Lowes, Jr. Cassie Pruzin and So. Emily Marshall) and four who played alot of minutes in that title run (Srs. Gretchen and Gwen Haehl, Jr. Andrea Travelstead, So. Jenna Fernandez). Throw in a coaching staff second to none(head coach Kris Huffman with 300+ wins) and a great recruiting class, the Tigers are reloading and repeating. This group knows how to win!!!
2. Oglethorpe: Will be very good since returning everyone. Probably will meet Depauw in Conference finals and qualify for the big dance
3. Trinity
4. Rhoades
5. Southwestern
6. Austin
7. Sewanee
8. Hendrix
9. Colorado College
10. Centre
11. Milsaps
12. Birmingham-Southern (last because their games don't cout this year)



Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OUfan22 on October 29, 2007, 12:14:38 PM
Im gonna have to go with flightof thepetrel on this one and not because only did depauw lose Bondi, they lost doughty who in my opinion was the ringleader that made the team go...yes they return some good players but as close as the games were between the two teams last year, they are likely not going to be enough with OU returning everyone...in addition to a deep and impressive freshman class
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: HunterT on October 30, 2007, 12:43:49 PM
Is it really time to start making the switch to basketball??

I am not that well informed, but will do my best to improve.

As far as Rhodes is concerned, we all know Farrell is the name of the team. But there were some big losses last year in Cahill (great defensive player, now assistant coaching) and Jesse (dominant inside player). But not only Farrell with be important. Returning sophomore Becky Atnip is a great shooter and should ease a little pressure off Farrell and provide another talented shooter.

I don't know about a #3 finish in the conference just because it has been shaped up to be a 1 woman team. It's hard for one girl to take a team that far. Look for others to step up and help out in order to get to #3. If it doesn't happen, I see a 4 or 5 finish for the Lynx.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on November 01, 2007, 09:03:53 PM
Pre-season Top 25 (http://www.d3hoops.com/top25) is out.

DePauw #5.  Oglethorpe in the middle of the pack in ORV. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on November 09, 2007, 12:03:01 PM
WOMEN'S DIII NEWS PRESEASON TOP 25 POLL

#   TEAM                          2006-07
1.  Capital                          20-7
2.  New York University              27-4
3.  Washington University (Mo.)      25-6
4.  Bowdoin College                  29-2
5.  Kean                             27-4
6.  DePauw                           31-3
7.  Calvin                           28-3
8.  Wisconsin-Eau Claire             19-9
9.  University of Southern Maine     27-3
10. Illinois Wesleyan                22-6
11. Messiah                          26-3
12. Hope College                     24-4
13. Millikin                         20-6
14. Luther College                   24-5
15. Emmanuel College                 29-2
16. Mary Washington                  31-3
17. Wilmington                       25-5
18. St. Benedict                     22-6
19. Scranton                         27-3
20. Oglethorpe                       21-8
21. George Fox                       19-7
22. Randolph-Macon                   26-5
23. Puget Sound                      24-7
24. Manchester                       21-7
25. Carroll                          22-5
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 09, 2007, 09:33:30 PM
I very seldom will ridicule something as being completely unbelievable, but that numerically-ordered collection of schools playing D-III women's basketball is not to be believed.

First, Howard Payne returns almost everyone from the Sweet 16 team that went 28-2 in 2007.

McMurry returns 10 players from the 24-5 #19 2006-2007 team that lost only their point guard but return their All-American Center Tarra Richardson.

There is even no consideration in the "good-ol' girls" network for Hardin-Simmons or Mississippi College or Trinity TX.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on November 17, 2007, 07:55:58 AM
Millsaps opens their season this afternoon in a game that should tell us something about how much the team has progressed in one year.  Millsaps was picked to finish last in the SCAC in the preseason poll, and MS College was picked to finish 3rd out of 7 teams in the ASC East.  Millsaps is coming off a 3-20 season and MC was 16-10 last year. 

MS College lost a lot of players from last year's team but it appears that they expect to be better this season with the addition of some key players.  In preseason they scrimmaged the U. of Alabama and they only trailed 28-26 at halftime and 53-40 with 5 minutes to go.  That makes me think MC is very good or Alabama will have a very long SEC season this year.

Millsaps lost by 23 when these two teams played last season--I have hopes that the gap has closed some and that this year the game will be more competitive.  To be honest, Millsaps was not competitive in the SCAC last season, going 1-13 and only two of those loses were in single-digits.  But in all fairness, Coach Bolton was hired in the summer of 2006, she took over a team with virtually no returning experience, and in the previous 4 seasons Millsaps had a combined 13-42 record in the SCAC.  This program has been down for quite some time and I don't expect for Millsaps to suddenly become a title contender overnight, but I do think that Coach Bolton is taking the right steps to build a solid program and I hope some of that progress is seen this season.  Just getting to the SCAC Tournament this season would be a huge step in the right direction.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on November 17, 2007, 06:45:53 PM
Apparently Millsaps has progressed quite a bit as Jessica Bowie hit a shot at the buzzer to give Millsaps a 2-point win (I think it was 57-55).  More remarkable is that Millsaps only dressed 8 players and LaReina Adams, their double-digit scorer and rebounder from 2006-07, isn't scheduled to play until January (she is practicing but still rehabbing from surgery).

Five of the eight who played this afternoon are new (Bowie did play at Millsaps in 2005-06) and there is another new player who will play but did not dress out today.  I don't have a box score but it looked like balanced scoring, much better ball handling that last year, and fairly good team chemistry for a team with so many new players.  Maybe the weakest area was in rebounding, an area that will certainly be helped when Adams returns after the Christmas break.

It's just one game that could have gone either way, but obviously Millsaps is a much improved team this season.  We'll find out how much they have improved in coming weeks with road games to Louisiana College, MS College and Hendrix.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on November 18, 2007, 08:10:32 AM
No problems for the defending champs this weekend.

DPU beat Olivet 96-63 on Friday and then beat #15 Illinois Wesleyan 77-66 yesterday afternoon.  DPU led by as many as 23 in the second half.  Cassie Pruzin with 17.  Jenna Fernandez with 15.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on November 18, 2007, 08:46:15 AM
Nice wins by DePauw, especially the win over IW.  I think Millsaps will climb up the standings this year in the SCAC but it is a long way to the top.  The good thing about that is that a team that does well in the SCAC is a team that should do well in national play.  (Edit:  Four uses of the word "that" in one sentence--I need to take a writing class.)

Here's a box score for the Millsaps vs. MC game.  Both teams shot rather poorly from the field and it seemed to be a combination of good defense and just missing some good shots.  Millsaps won the game at the free throw line, hitting 21 of 29 compared to 7 of 10 for MS College.  Crystal Dickerson was the leader in the game in both scoring (16 points) and rebounding (11), and Millsaps also got 11 points from Jessica Bowie and Krista Clark.
Box Score:  http://www.gochoctaws.com/sports/wbball/2007-08Stats/milvsmc.htm
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: goldnblack on November 18, 2007, 03:06:30 PM
Congrats to DePauw in winning the Amy Hasbrook Tip Off tourney. They handled a good Illinois Wesleyn team who is probably a top ten team after easily beating Wash U the night before. DePauw was ready and guarded the perimeter game well. It was a great team effort and the special bonus is that a several Freshman came in and played extremely well. DePauw is the real deal again this year.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 18, 2007, 10:29:24 PM
Trinity wins their tipoff tournament, 65-53 over Ohio Wesleyan in the opener and 70-51 over Hardin-Simmons in the championship. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 18, 2007, 10:38:09 PM
Impressive win by Trinity over HSU!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: HunterT on November 20, 2007, 12:53:47 AM
Like I said before, I'm not the most informed, but I'm learning.

The Lady Lynx are looking strong this year at the start. A close 3 point loss to the University of Memphis (yes, that D1 school down the street from us), followed by two fairly impressive wins (68-55 over Westminster, 76-21 over Rhema). I think beating a team by 50 pts really shows how the defense has stepped up this year. I know nothing of Rhema, so I will also assume they don't have the best team ever, but still... over 50! that's impressive any way you slice it.

Tomorrow night starts the real part of the season for the girls. Mississippi College at home, then Hendrix. Then on the road for the first SCAC games. I know it's still early, but I think if we get a good start, the girls will feel good and start to play even better. I'm kinda excited. not gonna lie about it.  ;D
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on November 20, 2007, 01:07:16 AM
Oglethorpe Opened the season with 2 wins in Emory, Virginia over  Methodist (81-45)    and Meredith  (96-54).  From what I've heard neither team they played was all that good although Methodist is picked to finish 3rd in their conference and had the second most first place votes received.  Meredith on the other hand was picked to finish a little lower in the pack at #6.  Guess this doesnt exactly say much for USA South basketball...

All 15 players saw plenty of action as no one played more than 19 minutes in the first game and 21 in the second game.

Pre Season All American Katie Kulavic averaged 15.5 pts.   5.5 reb.   2 steals   2.5 Assists in only 17 minutes of play.  Anna Findley also averaged 15.5 points in only  18 minutes of action.

OU's fullcourt press defense forced a combined  38 steals and 78 turnovers in the 2 games.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on November 24, 2007, 07:44:36 AM
I see that MS College won 60-56 at Rhodes yesterday to even their record to 1-1 after their 57-55 loss at Millsaps.  It is a highly inaccurate science to try and compare teams by looking at their results against a common opponent, but this seems to add some perspective to the Millsaps win in their opener. 

Millsaps has a tough stretch coming up with a road game to LA College today, a rematch over at MC on Monday, and then a road trip to Hendrix next Saturday.  I suspect they'll only dress 8 for those games with Adams still out rehabbing an injury.  I think they may have another new player added to the rotation in a couple of weeks which would certainly help the numbers.  Obviously this will be a year where success hinges a great deal on keeping everyone healthy and avoiding foul trouble during the games.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on November 24, 2007, 09:04:00 PM
Millsaps went on the road to LA College this evening and fell behind by 22 at the half (39-17).  They basically reversed the game in the second half, outscoring LC by 39-19 in the second half to drop a close 58-54 game.  Millsaps only hit 20-60 from the field, 1 of 13 from behind the arc, but they won the rebounding battle 48 to 30. 

Crystal Dickerson was far and away the leading rebounder with 18 and Jessica Bowie had a double-double with a game leading 20 points and 11 rebounds.  Freshman Ronda Webb came back from a 5 fouls in 4 minutes performance against MC and scored 14 points in 31 minutes of actions (with only 1 foul).  I was surprised to see that LaReina Adams came off the bench for 23 minutes of action--I thought she wasn't going to play until January.  Not surprisingly, her shooting was off with a 1 of 7 performance but she did pull down 7 rebounds.  Here's a link to the box score:

http://www.lcwildcats.net/sports/wbball/2007/2007/lcmlspw.htm
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on November 26, 2007, 10:25:01 PM
On Saturday, Millsaps was outscored by 22 in the first half at LC and then outscored LC by 18 in the second half.  Monday evening, Millsaps went to MC and took a 15-5 lead, then watched MC go on a 31-6 run for the rest of the half.  Trailing by 15 at halftime, Millsaps then outscored MC by 10 in the second half in a game that MC won 60-55.

The bipolar mood swings of the Millsaps team can be explained by a lot of talent combined with very little experience.  The 10 player roster consists of 4 players with no previous college experience (3 freshman and a player who was injured last year), 2 transfers new to the team, and 4 returning players with LaReina Adams just getting back from an injury rehab.  Here's my early season observation:

--At times, Millsaps looks like they have 5 players on the court who have hardly played together--which of course is the reality of the situation regardless of which 5 are on the court.  The 10 player roster has probably limited the amount of scrimmage time in practice and that doesn't help.

--When Millsaps plays bad, it seems like the problem is players being too hesitant instead of too aggressive.  Everyone seems to be waiting for someone else to make things happen.  Also, with the lack of experience, it seems like bad stretches seem to snowball into really bad stretches.

--My prediction:  Millsaps has 5 games in December with only one being a SCAC game.  If the players start playing 40 minutes like they play when they get almost hopelessly behind, then they will be a very good team in January and February.  Millsaps hasn't finished in the top half of the SCAC standings since the 1995-96 season, but I think this team has the talent to break into that upper half if they can just find the confidence to play like a team that belongs in the upper half.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on November 28, 2007, 10:32:29 AM
Oglethorpe destroyed a Piedmont team yesterday that made the national tournament last year, 86-67 I think.  Oglethorpe was up by as many as 30  (74-44) before Piedmont went on a lil run with some bench players in.  With the win  OU improves to 3-0 and in the latest poll they moved up to a tie for 27th.  The ladies are playing well but still are a ways away from playing up to their potential.  Keep it up!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bubba the Petrel on November 28, 2007, 11:55:50 AM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on November 28, 2007, 10:32:29 AM
Oglethorpe destroyed a Piedmont team yesterday that made the national tournament last year, 86-67 I think.  Oglethorpe was up by as many as 30  (74-44) before Piedmont went on a lil run with some bench players in.  With the win  OU improves to 3-0 and in the latest poll they moved up to a tie for 27th.  The ladies are playing well but still are a ways away from playing up to their potential.  Keep it up!

Average margin of victory is, what, 33 points and they're not playing up to their potential?  Sweet. ;D (assuming, of course, that they do play up to potential during the conference schedule...)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on November 28, 2007, 05:15:45 PM
Bubba, a prime example of what I was thinking about when making that comment was the number of turnonvers they had.  I understand that with their fast pace of basketball turnovers will be common but alot were unforced.  I know they'll be able to sharpen up that aspect of their game and when they do... Look OUt!

Also for any OU fan... or SCAC for that matter  check out the Lady Petels Blog hosted by alumni Brett Wise and Kim Wiley who do the broadcasting for the Lady Petrel games.  Feel free to comment and click on the links as it helps pay for gas money for those two individuals to cover away games.

http://ladypetrelshoops.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bubba the Petrel on November 29, 2007, 11:27:34 AM
Nice - thanks for the blog link, FotP.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on November 29, 2007, 11:24:42 PM
I'm looking forward to following the Millsaps at Hendrix game this Saturday.  The Millsaps team is much improved over last year's team which finished last in the SCAC, but how much of the gap have they closed?  Millsaps has split with MC this year, MC beat Rhodes, and Rhodes beat Hendrix--a very unscientific way of making me think that this will be a competitive game.  That would be news since Millsaps lost by 29 at Hendrix last year.

The most telling stat of the first three Millsaps game is the scoring breakdown by halves.  Millsaps has been outscored 110-75 in the first half and they have outscored their opponents by 91-63 in the second half.  The key to Saturday's game will be how quickly Millsaps can get in sync, not always an easy thing to do when you have so many new players.  I have a gut feeling that they will be a more settled team going into this week's game and that they'll show improved team play. 

It looks like there will be a live stats link at this page for the game that starts at 1 on Saturday:

http://www.hendrixwarriors.com/team.aspx?s=2
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: HeadingForHome on November 30, 2007, 11:29:53 AM
Tonight we get to see Birmingham Southern's first "conference" game against one of the top teams in the conference.  I see that Birmingham Southern is 4-1 this year, so I assume this will be a good game at Oglethorpe tonight. 

What do we know about Birmingham Southern's style of basketball?

I guess I'll know tonight, but I am just trying to get some insite before hand.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 30, 2007, 12:31:09 PM
Quote from: HeadingForHome on November 30, 2007, 11:29:53 AM
Tonight we get to see Birmingham Southern's first "conference" game against one of the top teams in the conference.  I see that Birmingham Southern is 4-1 this year, so I assume this will be a good game at Oglethorpe tonight. 

What do we know about Birmingham Southern's style of basketball?

I guess I'll know tonight, but I am just trying to get some insight before hand.
Only a 3-point loss to D-1 Centenary
Great post in Reba Ross
Good outside shooter in Mallory Moring
Has the fundamentals of a mid-level mid-range D-1 team.

McMurry could hang within 3-8 in the second half, but Greensboro and Maryville were beaten solidly.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on November 30, 2007, 12:47:47 PM
Should be a good game tonight.  OU will be on their game, as will the Petrel Nation. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 30, 2007, 08:31:15 PM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on November 30, 2007, 12:47:47 PM
Should be a good game tonight.  OU will be on their game, as will the Petrel Nation. 
Big win for the Petrels!

OU 75, BSC 72!

Congatulations!  ;)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on November 30, 2007, 11:39:49 PM
Thanks for the praise Ralph.  The ladies played hard tonight and came away with a big win over a good Birmingham Southern team! 

OU was led by Kulavic with 17 pts. 11 Reb and 5 ast.   Findley chipped in 16 pts. 4 reb and 4 assists  while Jamie Osmanson had a career high 13 points. 

The whole team played great D and stayed focused, even after losing a 7 point lead going into the half and shortly after halftime going down by as many as 8 themselves.  This team is really maturing and I can't wait to see what they can do the rest of the season.  Go Petrels!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on November 30, 2007, 11:55:57 PM
I know Birmingham is not elligible for the conference title, or NCAA tournament for that matter, for a few years.  Their wins and losses do not effect their conference opponents, but does this still count as a South Region win?  Any help would be appreciated...
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 01, 2007, 03:19:58 PM
Petrel, congratulations on the win.

The games versus B-SC will not count as in-region, until they are in the third year of provisional status.

I hope that the Athletic Department at BSC has its act together so well, that they can complete the 4-year process in 3.

The fact that the games don't count are why I think that they are so valuable.  That was a good home win.  We can compare BSC with McMurry, OU, Trinity, DPU, etc.

OU is on my radar screen among South Region teams.  :)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on December 01, 2007, 09:37:02 PM
Ralph,

That's good to hear we're on your radar screen... you're a good person to have take notice.  Should be another good game tomorrow versus Rhodes.  I hope to see OU in the top 25 next week  ;)

Thanks again for the information regarding BSC etc.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on December 02, 2007, 05:43:25 PM
Oglethorpe Came out strong once again today as they rolled over Rhodes 96-59.  How does this win look Ralph?  After the good close games that OU had against Rhodes last year I definitely wasn't expecting this result!

Kulavic 16 pts 7 reb  5 ast.  19 min
Howell 14 pts   4 reb.   13 min
Findley 10 pts     22 min
Richman 9 pts 4 reb   17 min
Brightwell 9 pts  5 reb 2 blk  10 min
Reed  8 pts. 4 reb  13 min
Corbett and MacDonald also chipped in 7 pts a piece

All OU players played at least 7 minutes and 14 of the 15 scored.

McGill had 15 pts  30 min.
Farrell  14 pts.  10 TO   an uncharacteristically bad game for her  played 32 minutes as well... not really sure why the coach continued to play her in a game that was decided in the first half as OU was up by 30.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on December 02, 2007, 06:34:32 PM
Millsaps bounced back from Saturday's loss at Hendrix with a 57-41 home win over the U. of Dallas this afternoon.  Dallas was 4-1 coming into the game with wins over Macalester, Curry, Sul Ross State, and Texas Lutheran.  The one loss was at Hendrix by a score of 72-52. 

I don't have a box score from today's game but here is the box score from the 88-79 loss at Hendrix yesterday:

http://www.scac-online.org/basketball_womens/mchc.htm

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 02, 2007, 06:44:02 PM
FlightofthePetrel,

I think that the disparity that may arise in the scores in D3 are such that I don't make much distinction between a 15-point win and a 30-point win amongst women's teams.

I don't think that there is that much depth of women's talent beyond the first tier.

That being said, I will follow Oglethorpe's games versus Trinity, Hendrix and Southwestern in the West and DePauw in the East.

Congratulations to the Petrels.  :)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on December 04, 2007, 05:51:00 PM
The Top 25 just came out for week 2

Defendindg National Champion Depauw reamains at #8
Depauw takes on Augustana this week

Oglethorpe enters the rankings for the first time this season at #25
Oglethorpe will have 2 home games this week against in state Rival Emory, in-state Rival Lagrange.  2 winable games for the Petrels.

Congrats to both teams for representing the SCAC
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on December 06, 2007, 11:23:44 PM
Oglethorpe used a 21 second half comeback to beat cross town rival Emory  87-78.

Anna Findley scored a game high 34 points while sinking 13-14 from the free throw line.

Kulvaic  11 pts and 5 ast.  playing most of the game in foul trouble.

On a side note... I'd like to say this was the worst reffed game ever... and it went both ways.  Emory was whistled for 35 fouls while Oglethorpe only managed 28...  63 total fouls!  It's amazing only 1 person fouled out.  I know I haven't seen every game ever played... but this had both teams griping from the get go as both teams were in the double bonus at the 9:47 mark.

OU is back in action on Saturday against Lagrange.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bubba the Petrel on December 07, 2007, 08:54:33 AM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on December 06, 2007, 11:23:44 PM
On a side note... I'd like to say this was the worst reffed game ever... and it went both ways.  Emory was whistled for 35 fouls while Oglethorpe only managed 28...  63 total fouls!  It's amazing only 1 person fouled out.  I know I haven't seen every game ever played... but this had both teams griping from the get go as both teams were in the double bonus at the 9:47 mark.

Eh - it's D-III ball.  Not that's it's an acceptable excuse, but (as the saying goes) you get what you pay for.  Compared to D-I games, the officiating is always going to be subpar (in relative terms).  You should've seen some of the games during the early 90s...
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on December 07, 2007, 09:05:09 PM
Millsaps fell to Piedmont 62-54 this evening in a game that mirrored much of the season so far.  Millsaps fell behind 12-2 to open the game, then fought back to only trail 27-26 at the half.  Piedmont then scored the first 13 points of the second half to lead 40-26, only to have Millsaps come back and take a 46-45 lead with about 5:10 to play.  From there it became one of those games when a team expends all its energy just catching back up and then doesn't have anything left to finish strong.

Right now Millsaps is showing a lot of potential and also a lot of the inexperience you would expect from a team that is starting three players who are in their first year with the team.  They play Louisiana College tomorrow.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on December 08, 2007, 10:34:54 PM
Oglethorpe beat a scrappy Lagrange team tonight 68-48... not the Petrels best game but a win is a win. 

Findley led OU with 13 pts  8 reb and 4 ast.

Kulavic tallied 11 pts 5 reb and 4 ast.   (only 4 away from 1,000- she should get it next saturday against Methodist)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on December 09, 2007, 09:29:00 AM
Millsaps lost another tough game last night, falling 55-51 to Louisiana College after leading by 9 at the half and by maybe as much as 15-18 earlier in the first half.  That puts Millsaps at 2-5 overall and 0-1 in the SCAC, not much different from the 1-6 and 0-2 at this time last year, but this team has improved tremendously and is continuing to do so. 

The 5 losses this year have been by 4, 4, 5, 8, and 9 points.  In the 8-point loss, Millsaps had a brief lead with about 6 minutes to go and in the 9 point loss (at Hendrix) it was a 2-point game with 11 minutes to play.  This is a team that isn't so very far away from being 7-0 going into the break. 

I wish I could confidently predict that the Women's BB team at Millsaps is going to duplicate the Millsaps football team of 2006, a rough start to the season that eventually concludes with a SCAC Championship.  I don't see that being the case with the SCAC having so many talented teams, but I do see Millsaps getting much better over the course of the season with the chance of getting into the SCAC Tournament and maybe pulling off an upset (getting into the tournament is more difficult this year, especially in the West).

What Millsaps is lacking right now is experience which is what you would expect on a 10-player team with 4 returning players, 2 transfers, and 4 freshmen (one of these is a soph. who received a medical redshirt last season).  You have freshmen trying to adjust to a higher level of play, new teammates trying to mesh as a team, and it doesn't help that last year's leading scorer and rebounder, LaReina Adams, spent the fall and first weeks of the season still rehabbing from surgery.  Plus, with just a 10-player roster it is hard to gain game-type experience in practice when it takes having all 10 players at practice and healthy just to have enough for a scrimmage.

I believe Millsaps is definitely headed in the right direction and since there are no seniors on this year's team, I don't think it is an outlandish statement to say that I can see these players winning or at least strongly challenging for a SCAC title before they leave Millsaps.  They need more pieces to complete the puzzle, but this group is a good foundation for rebuilding a program. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on December 11, 2007, 01:36:41 PM
Oglethorpe made the biggest gain in the Top 25 this week moving up 6 places to #19, the highest ranking in program history!  With games against Methodist, Roanoke, and Wilmington on the horizon I see 2 victories leading up the matchup with Wilmington (a rematch of the first round of the NCAA tournament last year)  Hopefully the results will be different.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on December 12, 2007, 12:21:23 PM
Did this really happen?   Agnes Scott 43, Sewanee 32.   Can anyone from Sewanee let us in on what might have happened?  Sewanee beat Rhodes and Lagrange earlier in the year, I don't know in the world they would have lost to Agnes Scott?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: sewanee tiger on December 12, 2007, 02:37:43 PM
Petrel,
The answer is all in the numbers. Shooting 3 for 23 in the second half (1 for 11 from behind the arc), will get you beat just about every time. To our girls' credit, we were still only down 5 with about 3 minutes to go because we continued to play good defense even though the shots weren't falling.

We played better last night, but still lost 79-67 to Emory, which shot 53% from the field for the game. Erica Kaplan was 6 for 7 from behind the arc for Emory. Anne Wills led Sewanee with 19 points.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on December 12, 2007, 07:02:08 PM
Yeah, it's tough to win when the shots aren't falling.  I had Sewanee as my sleeper this year... and with starting the season off beating Rhodes I thought I might have been right.  Luckily Agnes Scott and Emory were not conference games.  I'm sure the girls have alot on their minds right now with finals and such.  Hopefully they'll be able to right the ship once the new semester begins. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bubba the Petrel on December 13, 2007, 02:16:58 PM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on December 11, 2007, 01:36:41 PM
Oglethorpe made the biggest gain in the Top 25 this week moving up 6 places to #19, the highest ranking in program history!  With games against Methodist, Roanoke, and Wilmington on the horizon I see 2 victories leading up the matchup with Wilmington (a rematch of the first round of the NCAA tournament last year)  Hopefully the results will be different.

Lady Petrels up to #17 in the Week 3 WBCA Poll (http://www.wbca.org/DIIICoachesPoll.asp) (DePauw holds at #8).
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Rufio on December 16, 2007, 12:21:17 PM
Wow. I am surprised that Flight of the Petrel has not reported about the Oglethorpe's Womens game yet. 

So I will try to step in.

Oglethorpe defeated Methodist 92 - 70. 

Methodist is now 4 - 2 with both losses coming from the Lady Petrels.  The average margin  of those two losses is 29 points

I don't know all the great stats but I do know that Anna Findley had 31 points

and  more importantly Katie Kulavic scored her 1,000 point in the first half of this game.

Congratulations Katie!

Oglethorpe is now 8-0 and has 17 game winning streak at home.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on December 16, 2007, 01:35:26 PM
My Appologies, I had to leave right after the game to work the Atlanta Slam/ I was busy watching Andy Roddick play tennis.  Rufio did a good job filling in on the update.

Just wanted to add- Anna Findley had an amazing 7 steals and shot lights out (12-17  and 6-9 from 3) and  is now only 54 points away from joining Katie at the 1,000 point plateau.

OU has 2 tough games in late Decemer, against Roanoke team who has had a lengthy layoff and with welcome the return of their All American Erin Hanson, as well as a grudge match against Wilmington who knocked OU out of last years NCAA tourney.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Rufio on December 19, 2007, 10:25:45 AM
New Polls.

WBCA.org USAToday/Espn Coaches Poll
Depauw 6th
Oglethorpe 15

D3hoops.com Poll
Depauw 6th
Oglehthorpe 17th
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: petey.petrel on December 19, 2007, 08:06:30 PM
I think this is OU's year.  I don't think they were ready for prime time last year but I think being a year older will put them over the top and unseat DePauw.  Last year they were still young and lost several games by 20 and 30+ points while beating the teams they were supposed to.  This year the Kulavic,Findley duo will take them to the top of the SCAC.  DePauw lost to much.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: vozdelospetrels on December 20, 2007, 11:05:03 AM
Petey-petrel,

I hope you're right. I agree that DePauw lost a lot, but a program like that surely has the talent ready to step in. The Petrels do have a legit shot though, and if they stay healthy they can take the SCAC top spot away from DePauw. December 30th will be a big test for Oglethorpe as Wilmington comes to the Dorough Field House. 

www.ladypetrelshoops.blogspot.com

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on December 20, 2007, 03:58:03 PM
OU has been able to start off hard the past few years... but has fizzled towards the end of the season. 

15-1 in December (last 3 years)
14-3 in January  (last 2 years)
12-5 in February (last 2 years)

I know the talent level they have been playing against has been much better with most of those games falling in the conference and national tournament but if they want to be one of the elite teams that's when they need to pick it up.  Should be an interesting conference season with OU playing a home and home vs. Depauw and their only meeting with Trinity is at home.  F.Y.I. OU is only 2-6 against those teams, combined, in the last 3 years with the only wins coming at home.  Going 2-1 against them this year, in the regular season, would be a huge statement.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: vozdelospetrels on December 21, 2007, 10:04:20 AM
Flightofthepetrel,

I too share your concerns about them finishing strong. A great regular season means less if you can't win in the conference and national tourneys. Yes, having a 23-2 regular season would be great, but I'd really love to see the Lady Petrels take home the SCAC title. On the women's side the SCAC has had 2 national champs in the last few years (DePauw & Trinity). It would mean a lot to win a SCAC title.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: petey.petrel on December 24, 2007, 12:59:46 PM
That was my point about them not being ready for prime time last year.  Against elite teams, they struggled, while beating up on the rest.  Against teams that finished in the top 25 last year, they were 1-4 with a two point win, and losses of 42, 37, 23, and 13 points.  That's a scoring margin of -22.4.  Not the body of work of an elite team.  But there core was mostly sophomores.  I think them being a year older, better, and more experienced is going to take them to the top this year.  I would like to see them with a tougher schedule though to get them ready for the elite teams.  So far this year they have played one quality opponent (Bir-South) and that was at home.  That was a very good win though and is what gives me hope that they are ready to take it to the next level.  I wish they would test themselves on the road though.  DePauw has two losses against top 10 teams this year away from Greencastle.  Despite the losses, those games will prepare them for the postseason.  OU always plays a lot of home games and rarely plays anyone quality on the road.  Some more tough road games would get the girls prepared to win in the postseason.  We know they can win at home.

I still think this is the year though.  The home game vs. Wilmington and the game at DePauw in the next two weeks should tell us how good they can be.  I'm predicting the last game of the year in Dorough will be for the #1 seed, with OU coming out on top.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on December 24, 2007, 10:33:31 PM
They did play and beat a Piedmont team, who went to the National Tournament and won their conference last year, at their place by 9 (should have been more but subs played good minutes)  QUALITY WIN

They've beaten a Methodist squad, whose only losses have been at the hands of the Petrels, twice.  Remember Methodist was picked to finish top 3 in their conference.  QUALITY WIN(s)

Birmingham Southern was a D-1 team last and returned their core.   QUALITY WIN

So far that's half of their wins against quality teams... give the girls a little more credit

The rest of the way we have...

Wilmington knocked us out of the Tournament last year....

We are a combined 2-6 against Trinity and Depauw in the last 2 years and we'll play them at minimum 3 times, combined, this year... more if we see them in the tournament.

Not to mention playing Maryville in January who is a perennial thorn in our side and went 25-5 last year.

That's 10 tough games out of 25...   13 of which are played at home...   Compare that to last year, they played 6 of their first 7 away and their last 6 away...  Playing alot of games at home this year would seem to be a reward for playing such a tough schedule away last year.  Also when you become a top 25 teams... other teams are willing to come to your place, because THEY want to play you.

Coach Sattele has dropped the cupcake teams off his schedule (i.e. Agnes Scott, Spellman)  The goal is to get to the National tournament and be prepared... with this schedule  we'll have enough South Region and Quality wins to ensure that... IF we don't happen to win the Conference.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: vozdelospetrels on December 25, 2007, 12:30:04 AM
FlightofthePetrel,

You are right that they do have some quality wins according to season expectations, and the Piedmont victory was by 19 points but I still want them to prove themselves this season on the road. Piedmont did not impress me, I doubt they'll be making another run to the national tourney this season. The DePauw game in a couple of weeks will be a big one. You are right about them setting themselves up well for an at-large bid if they fail to win the tourney, those regional wins will look good, especially if Methodist goes on to have a good conference season in the USA South.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: petey.petrel on December 26, 2007, 12:38:35 PM
"I think this is OU's year", "This year the kulavic,findley duo will take them to the top of the SCAC", "I think them being a year older, better, and more experienced is going to take them to the top this year", "That was a very good win and is what gives me hope that they are ready to take it to the next level", "I'm predicting the last game of the year in Dorough will be for the #1 seed, with OU coming out on top".

I think I am giving the girls plenty of credit, FOP.  I was just saying I think this team is able to rise to the challenge of a tougher schedule and would benefit from such a schedule.  You wrote something along the lines of them struggling late and if they want to be an elite team they needed to pick it up.  In my opinion, tougher non-conference games would help them in the post-season.  I still think they have only played one challenging game, and that was a conference game (Birm. South) and if I'm not mistaken the conference schedule is pre-arranged. 

If a team is 9-2 but hasn't beaten anyone, are they a quality team?  You have to look at not only opponents records, but who they have won and lost against.  The only game OU went into with the outcome in doubt was Birm. South.  As I stated, that was a very good win and beating a team of that caliber makes me think this is the year.  I think the girls are ready to take it to the next level, and I think challenging themselves in the non-conference schedule would help them do so.  DePauw has already played the #7, #9, and #11 teams in the country.  THAT is a schedule that challenges them and gets them ready for post-season.  OU hasn't played anyone in the top 25 or that is recieving votes. (Birm. South probably would be if they were eligible but again that's a conference game and doesn't count) Those type of teams are what I am talking about.  Not a 9-2 Piedmont team that went to the NCAA because they are in the GSAC.  OU is going to get a bid.  I have no doubt about that and never have.  I think the girls can go further than they ever have this year, but it's just my humble opinion that challenging oneself in the non-conference schedule is benefitial.  That is why I'm really looking forward to the Wilmington game.

VOZ, I like your posts, but one minor correction:  It's not lady petrels, it's petrels! :)
Go Petrels!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on December 29, 2007, 08:54:28 PM
Millsaps had their first action after the Christmas break, falling to Belhaven 82-69 in a game that was just a 6-point game with 45 seconds to play before some fouls and desperation low percentage plays helped balloon the final margin.

In a case of looking at the glass half full, it's amazing that Millsaps stayed competitive till the end when so many things went wrong:
--Last year's leading scorer and rebounder, LaReina Adams, did not dress for the game.
--This year's leading scorer and rebounder, Crystal Dickerson, had 3 fouls after 4 minutes.
--Center Jessica Bowie also had foul trouble and only played 6+ minutes before fouling out.
--Millsaps had 37 turnovers (Belhaven had 31), in a game where the refs must have thought there was bonus pay for every walking call.
--Or maybe they thought there was a bonus just for blowing the whistle as the two teams shared 58 fouls, 27 on the Majors which is difficult to spread amongst just 9 players.
--And while hitting 22 of 45 FGs thanks greatly to Ronda Webb's 11 of 12 shooting (28 points total), Millsaps only made 23 of 40 FTs.

So many things went wrong and yet the Millsaps team stayed close enough to have a shot at winning all the way till the last 45 seconds.  It just repeats what I've said about the Millsaps team all year, namely that they have a lot of talent which allows them to stay in games even when their inexperience shows through in turnovers, unneccesary fouls, and streaky offense.  With just a little bit more control and composure, this group could be a pretty good team in the SCAC.

Link to boxscore:  http://blazers.belhaven.edu/w_basketball/stats/07-08/12.29.07_MILLSAPS.mht
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on December 29, 2007, 11:24:57 PM
Quality win tonight for the Lady Petrels against Roanoke College.

The Lady Petrels rock Roanoke  78-58.  Roanoke's Erin Hanson is as good as advertised as it was a battle of the All-Americans.

Katie Kulavic led OU with  17 pts and 4 reb.
Tina Grace chipped in 13 pts. and 6 reb.

OU plays Wilmington tomorrow and when I left they were only leading Bowdoin by 6... Wilmington looks like a real good team (reminded me alot of Depauw) but for some reason were not playing well at points against a marginal Bowdoin team at best.  Should be a great game tomorrow- it will tell us alot about our Lady Petrels!

Safe travels back to Atlanta tonight Pat.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on December 31, 2007, 05:43:18 PM
An interesting stat while waiting for the SCAC season to resume.  In the Millsaps game vs. Belhaven last Saturday, Millsaps freshman Ronda Webb came within a shot of breaking an SCAC record.  She finished 11 of 12 from the field and the SCAC record for FG % in a game is 100% on 11 of 11 shooting by Jessica Dunlap of Millsaps, followed by 92.3% shooting (12 of 13) which was done twice by Jennifer Bulkekey of Sewanee.  There is a minimum of 10 field goals made on this particular record.

That's not bad for a player who fouled out of her first collegiate game early this year with just 4 minutes of playing time. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on January 02, 2008, 11:27:54 PM
An unfortunate week for the 2 SCAC teams featured in the Top 25 as both Depauw and Oglethorpe suffered a loss.

Depauw fell 6 spots to # 12 as they split games in the Cancun tournament falling to new #6 Messiah.

Oglethorpe fell 8 spots and hung on to the #25 spot as they fell in the Championship game of their Holiday Tournament to Wilmington who re-entered the polls this week at #24.

Oglethorpe and Depauw will face eachother this weekend in what will be the first time they meet as Top 25 teams.  The winner takes control of the SCAC for what could be the remainer of the season as these two teams won't see eachother again until the last game of the regular season.

Expectations:  Oglethorpe played a tough Wilmington team that reminded me alot of Depauw from last year.  I think Oglethorpe will be held under their scoring average for the second straight game but I hope the outcome will be different.  As mentioned before in others posts Depauw's strength of schedule might be the deciding factor.  OU proved they could play with a top 25 team, minus a cold 5 minutes to end the game, and this will be a good test for them as well.  Hopefully they can pull this one out, but if they can't they will come away with some valuable information.  It's hard to win on the Road- Good Luck Lady Petrels.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on January 03, 2008, 05:23:30 PM
THE SCAC was well reprsented this week as two players made the D3Hoops.com Team of The Week. 
Oglethorpe Junior Guard  Anna Findley made the team for the second straight week.

Colorado College's Melanie Auguste made her first debut, almost averaging a triple double.

http://www.d3hoops.com/tow/
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on January 05, 2008, 08:28:42 AM
Southwestern won at Millsaps 64-42 last night, scoring the last 16 points of the game to expand a 48-42 score to the final margin.  Rather than try to rewrite what has already been written, here's the link to the Millsaps story about the game and to the box score:

Story:  http://www.millsaps.edu/athletic/basketball-w/010408release.shtml
Box Score:  http://www.scac-online.org/basketball_womens/sumc.htm
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 05, 2008, 11:14:38 PM
Birmingham Southern beat Rhodes rather easily 67-58 in Memphis this afternoon.  Reba Ross had a big game and Rhodes had no answer for her.  Rhodes is missing Kristin Lyle, a key contributor for the next 5-6 weeks (fractured tibia).  Looks like they're going to struggle through the SCAC in 2008.


Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on January 06, 2008, 10:27:19 AM
Most of the folks who will check out this thread have probably already check out the scores from last night so you know that Trinity beat Millsaps 85-71.  In a pattern that has been repeated in the last three games and other games from early in the season, Millsaps made a nice run in the second half to get back in the game, but then they ran out of steam or they had to take quick shots or try low percentage plays at the end and the final victory margin goes back to a wider gap.  Last night it was Trinity leading Millsaps by 42-32 at the half, Millsaps cutting that lead to 52-48 with 12:25 to play, and then Trinity going on a run to rebuild a comfortable lead.

Game Story:  http://www.millsaps.edu/athletic/basketball-w/010508release.shtml
Box Score and Play-by-play:  http://www.millsaps.edu/athletic/basketball-w/mcw-010508.htm

Just on a general note about Millsaps basketball, this is a team that plays hard and will compete for the entire 40 minutes, they have made huge strides since last year, and they are laying a solid foundation for a program that has been down for quite a while.  That being said, they don't have all the pieces they need to consistently compete with the Trinity, OU, DePauw type teams for an entire 40 minutes.  They need more height in the middle, they need better outside shooting (currently last in the league in 3-pt percentage), and they need more depth--all things that will be greatly helped by another year of experience for the current players and another strong recruiting class.

I'm just saying, for those who are interested, that some might look at the Millsaps record of 2-8, 0-3 in the SCAC, and think that it is the same old Millsaps.  I look at Millsaps and I see a team and a coaching staff that shows the potential to be like the old, old Millsaps, a team that stayed at or near the top of the league standings.  While Millsaps has been a dismal 30-126 in SCAC play over the last 10 full seasons, they started out as a program that was 63-19 in the SCAC over the first 6 seasons in the conference.  Give them a year or two and they might just start looking like the teams of the early and mid-90's.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on January 06, 2008, 01:52:21 PM
Quote from: spfan22 on January 06, 2008, 01:15:11 PM
i believe his first at OU in 4 years.. i know depauw is a great team.. but are they that much better that they earned 20 more free throws than OU.. i highly doubt that.. hopefully OU can make a late run and get back in the game..

Instant live update!  75-63 Final.

I just finished watching the game.  I certainly sell your highfalutin conspiracy therory, there.  DePauw committed only 6 fewer fouls.  OU fouled shooters.  DePauw fouled ball handlers.  There's your free throw differential.  DePauw's slashing guards were getting hacked on the way to the rim all afternoon.  Oglethorpe was getting fouled 20 feet from the rim.

Since you asked if DePauw was that much better, I would say that were that much better today.  In Dorough, it may be different.  DePauw started slow, but played the final 20 minutes in dominant fashion.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 06, 2008, 04:07:44 PM
Centre Girls chalked up their first SCAC victory at home today 66-61 over UOS.  This team, similar to Millsaps, is rebuilding.  This is a good win for a team that is working hard to improve its game.  This should build some good momentum for the road trip to Birmingham & Memphis next weekend.  Congrats to the Lady Colonels!

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPULefty22 on January 06, 2008, 05:45:51 PM
Major statement delivered by the DPU women in Greencastle today. The SCAC (and NCAA) crown belongs to them, thank you, and they don't plan on relinquishing it.

Ron Sattele has himself a real good team, but they've got one glaring problem that DPU exploited: a lack of size. OU just doesn't defend the post very well - or didn't today, at least - and when you're playing a team like DePauw who rotates 6-footers in and out of the game with frequency, not having any major rotation players over 6 feet means real trouble for defending the paint. The Tigers didn't shoot the ball very well today, failing to make a three pointer, but they were able to get inside whenever they wanted, usually drawing a foul in the process (which, as Wes stated earlier, accounted for the free throw differential - it seems pretty aberrant on paper, but if you saw the game live it makes perfect sense). All those free throws and layups were what enabled the Tigers to pull away.

Of course, OU's foul trouble didn't help. Kulavic was the best player on the floor for the Petrels when she was out there, but she sure wasn't out there long: 15 minutes before fouling out midway through the second half. Give credit to DPU's Kalei Lowes for absolutely locking down Anna Findley and, along with Kulavic's foul trouble, effectively rendering moot OU's one-two scoring punch.

Should be a different game when these two lock up in Atlanta in a month and a half. I'm excited for it.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: vozdelospetrels on January 09, 2008, 09:30:24 PM
Defending the post has always been an issue for the Lady Petrels, they do give up a lot of size. I didn't see the DePauw vs OU game last weekend, but a general observation I've made this season about the Lady Petrels is that they're a fastbreak team, or they want to be one, but they seem to struggle with forcing that tempo against good teams. For them to become a great team, they're going to have to learn how to force their tempo against anyone.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 10, 2008, 12:05:43 AM
Quote from: vozdelospetrels on January 09, 2008, 09:30:24 PM
Defending the post has always been an issue for the Lady Petrels, they do give up a lot of size. I didn't see the DePauw vs OU game last weekend, but a general observation I've made this season about the Lady Petrels is that they're a fastbreak team, or they want to be one, but they seem to struggle with forcing that tempo against good teams. For them to become a great team, they're going to have to learn how to force their tempo against anyone.

I've not seen OU play this year, but have witnessed several games in the past.  They are a tempo-driven team that thrives on steals and beating the defense.  I tend to disagree on the idea of a 'great team".  The mark of a great team is being able to shift gears so to speak to meet the challenge of the opponent.  I've seen many great basketball teams that could shift tempo successfully even though they might prefer to play fast.  Maybe to be great Oglethorpe needs to add a true post player? 

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on January 10, 2008, 03:52:33 PM
SCAC Schedule for this weekend:

Jan. 11 
   6:00 PM  Hendrix   Austin     
   7:00 PM  DePauw   Rhodes     
   7:00 PM  Centre   Birmingham Southern     
   8:00 PM  Millsaps   Colorado Col.     
Jan. 12 
   4:00 PM  Southwestern (Tex.)   Trinity (Tex.)     
   6:00 PM  Hendrix   Colorado Col.     
   7:00 PM  Oglethorpe   Sewanee     
Jan. 13 
   2:00 PM  DePauw   Birmingham Southern     
   2:00 PM  Centre   Rhodes     
   2:00 PM  Millsaps   Austin 

As with the men's games, it looks like DePauw will have a radio broadcast of their games and Birmingham will have live stats.  Also, according to the Colorado website, they will have streaming video of their games and live stats.  Here's the link to the Colorado College site:

http://www.coloradocollege.edu/athletics/varsity_sports/wbasketball/
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on January 11, 2008, 03:07:20 PM
I agree with you on the point of adding a true post player Brooks.  Brightwell, a sophmore transfer from last year, has been injured much of this year  as well as Richmann being hurt the past 2 games.  Coach Satelle did recruit a 6'2" post this year but she is only a freshman and continues to develop every day.  Maybe this might not be Oglethorpe's year, I still think they'll make it to the NCAA's again and will most likely win a first round matchup but for the 3rd straigh year they only lose one senior- they'll be back again next year with the same core.... and maybe another post player or two!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 11, 2008, 07:51:38 PM
DPU leading Rhodes at the half 39-15. Not much of a contest; Tigers should be up 30. Bad news for Lynx - Ashley Farrell tore ligaments in right ankle Tuesday night so she won't suit up for at least 3 more games. Too bad because they could use her tonight. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on January 11, 2008, 08:31:40 PM
76-39 Final score... Rhodes could have used Crystal Jessee and Taylor Cook in addition to Farrell and I don't think it would have mattered much.  Depauw is just too good as they hand Rhodes their worst defeat of the year (well tied for worst loss   OU 96 Rhodes 59 from earlier in the year).  Hopefully Farrell's injury isn't to bad and she can get back soon.  It's been a while since Rhodes has been 0-3 to start the SCAC season.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 12, 2008, 11:54:22 PM
FlightofthePetrel, Rhodes really is hurting missing a true post player like Crystal Jessee. In addition, the Lynx are missing Kristin Lytle to an injury. So they're almost at rock bottom as far as strong senior leadership goes. I look for a  competitive game tomorrow between Rhodes and the young team from Centre.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on January 13, 2008, 02:50:27 PM
In a halftime score that may not surprise some, BSC is leading DePauw 39-26 with about a minute gone in the 2nd half:

Live stats:  http://livestats.internetconsult.com/bsc/wbball/
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 13, 2008, 03:44:01 PM
Centre Ladies defeat Rhodes 67-56. Jenny Jones goes inside and outside for 25. Goodman puts in 20 as well. Centre held Rhodes scoreless for first 6 minutes of the 2nd half. Rhodes score 2 baskets in the 10 minutes coming out of halftime. Centre played a solid road game against a wounded opponent.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 13, 2008, 03:50:44 PM
BSC 71, Depauw 58.

BSC is providing a good measuring stick of its D3 opponents.

http://www.d3hoops.com/school/BSC/womens/2008
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on January 13, 2008, 04:06:13 PM
Looking forward to Feb. 15th when Oglethorpee heads over to Bham for a rematch from a game earlier in the season that OU won 75-72 in Dorough.  I'm not surprised BSU won but to be up by at many as 27 in the second half really did surprise me.  I didn't have a chance to listen to the broadcast but it looks like DPU had 25 turnovers... very uncharacteristic for them.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 13, 2008, 04:51:10 PM
Austin College hit 13-of-26 threes in a 69-46 rout of Millsaps that wasn't as close as that score would indicate. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: spfan22 on January 13, 2008, 06:26:07 PM
Can i get a reasonable explanation for what happened in the BSU/Depauw game?? Thats crazy to think that a team as good as Depauw could trail by 27 in a game.. I know it was a road game but thats still hard to imagine.. OU seemed to control their first game against BSU and led pretty much the whole way.. Im assuming BSU has improved of late and that the home court played  a rather huge role in the game
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 14, 2008, 12:48:28 AM
Quote from: spfan22 on January 13, 2008, 06:26:07 PM
Can I get a reasonable explanation for what happened in the BSU/DePauw game?? Thats crazy to think that a team as good as DePauw could trail by 27 in a game.. I know it was a road game but thats still hard to imagine.. OU seemed to control their first game against BSU and led pretty much the whole way.. Im assuming BSU has improved of late and that the home court played  a rather huge role in the game
I am actually assuming that BSC is that good, and DePauw just had a bad road trip.

They (BSC) edged #8 McMurry (63-57) on a "friendly" neutral floor in Maryville TN.  (McMurry traveled 1030 miles; BSC 257 miles, one-quarter of the distance.)

They have losses to D-1 Centenary LA, 60-63, and to D-1 Southern Mississippi, 50-78.

They beat Emory, 80-68.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPULefty22 on January 14, 2008, 03:23:10 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 14, 2008, 12:48:28 AM
Quote from: spfan22 on January 13, 2008, 06:26:07 PM
Can I get a reasonable explanation for what happened in the BSU/DePauw game?? Thats crazy to think that a team as good as DePauw could trail by 27 in a game.. I know it was a road game but thats still hard to imagine.. OU seemed to control their first game against BSU and led pretty much the whole way.. Im assuming BSU has improved of late and that the home court played  a rather huge role in the game
I am actually assuming that BSC is that good, and DePauw just had a bad road trip.

Right you are, Ralph. BSC IS that good. They've got D-I players on their roster, and the difference in athletic ability between those players (especially Ross) and even the best players on DPU's roster was fairly stark. In four years of watching DPU women's basketball, Ross is the best opposing player I've seen, and it isn't close. But, hell, she was one of the five best players in a D-I conference last season. She should be dominating the SCAC the way she has.

You're also correct in assuming DPU just flat out didn't play well. Lot of offensive sloppiness and some uncharacteristically poor shooting. But most of that was forced by excellent BSC defense.

Having seen the Panthers on the football field and the basketball court, I fear it's only a matter of time before they're the big boss of the SCAC. Once they're eligible for postseason play in three/four years (I forget which), look out.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 14, 2008, 11:18:03 AM
+1, '22.  The non-scholarship players who played against DPU (all three of them) combined for seven points and one rebound in 22 minutes.   We've seen this in other sports like soccer where BSC's teams are still leavened with D1 players. 

BSC is going to be a player in the SCAC, but keep in mind that their teams WITH D1 athletes are getting beat by some of the true D3 teams in the SCAC already.  The transition over the next couple of years will be interesting to watch.  Football, on the other hand, may be a whole 'nother story. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: petey.petrel on January 16, 2008, 03:15:17 PM
It's good to see the girls back to the winning ways.  They rebounded nicely from a couple of losses.  Despite losing to Wilmington, I think the game was great for the girls.  That game prepares them for post-season play much better than an easy 25 point win.  I'd still like to see more of those games on the schedule.  The 12 point DePauw loss at DePauw was much better than last year, which tells me the girls have closed the gap.  I still stand by my prediction that the last game of the year will be for the #1 seed.  I don't see the girls even being challenged except in two games before then, and one of those doesn't count in the standings.  That last game should be fun.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 17, 2008, 05:27:49 PM
I am going to check out the Hendrix-Sewanee game this weekend.  This will be the first time I've seen either squad this season.  I suspect that Hendrix has sustained some drop-off from last year with the graduation of Huggins and Hicks.  Looking forward to seeing the brand new facilities at Hendrix.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 18, 2008, 07:44:59 PM
halftime of Austin College and Centre, AC leads 33-23.  AC opened with a 13-0 run over the first nine minutes of the game, but Centre chipped away and had it down to as little as 6 the rest of the first half.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 18, 2008, 09:14:26 PM
66-58 final, AC over Centre.  Katy Williams misses out on a triple double by three assists, finishing with 17 points, 13 boards, and 7 dishes.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 18, 2008, 09:23:15 PM
Hendrix Women win 55-40. New gym is impressive, 1,100 chair-back seats. Also have a clever little sky box. Lighting in the facility is outstanding.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on January 19, 2008, 07:52:01 AM
I know that most people seeing the Millsaps-OU score of 74-67 would probably think that OU controlled the game most of the night and Millsaps hit a couple of meaningless baskets to make the score closer than it should have been.  That would be a bad assumption.

This game was tight throughout the first half until Millsaps built a lead of 28-19 with 30 seconds in the half.  OU hit a shot at the end and Millsaps missed for a halftime score of 28-22.  The game stayed close for about 10 minutes in the second half and OU did build a lead up to 13 points, but this was a 7 point game with just over 2 minutes to go, hardly what you would expect between teams coming in with 12-2 and 2-11 records.  You can get more details with the box score, play-by-play, etc:
http://www.millsaps.edu/athletic/basketball-w/mcw-011808.htm

I've been saying all season that Millsaps has talented players, just not enough players in general.  Their roster is down to 9, not even enough to scrimmage in practice.  Then they have to deal with injuries to those 9, such as Jessica Bowie missing the previous 5 games before coming back last night and having a rare Triple-Double with 15 points, 10 rebounds and 11 blocks.  Earlier in the year is was LaReina Adams missing while recovering from knee surgery and her regular double-doubles from last year have become rarities as she still is building back to 100%--it was good to see her get one last night with 14 points and 10 boards.  Crystal Dickerson miss one of her own with 22 points and 9 rebounds.

At the moment Millsaps is three games back of making the SCAC Tournament.  It is a longshot that they will make up that ground, but this team is going to make some noise next year.  There are no seniors this year and based on the talent brought in by Coach Bolton in her first year of recruiting, I have no doubt that there will be a lot of good players joining this group next season.  Once you get this team up to 12-14 players and address the weakness of inconsistent outside shooting (currently hitting .207 on 3-pointers, last in the SCAC), you'll see an amazing turn around that was started by the foundation this team is laying right now. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Rufio on January 19, 2008, 10:04:00 AM
Frank, I listened to the OU-Millsaps game on the Petrel Sports Network and you were correct it did not sound like the Petrels were playing a 2-11 team.  I think the fact that the Petrels are missing their three post players hurt them and will continue to hurt them.  Millsaps out rebounded the Petrels by 12 boards. 

I swear that I heard Bowe's named called every 30 seconds either blocking someone or grabbing rebounds.  It was a very impressive night from her.   11 blocks is ridiculous.

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on January 19, 2008, 05:22:36 PM
Frank,  First off I'd like to say it was nice to finally meet you.

Secondly, I totally agree with you about the Millsaps womens team.  They certainly did not play like a 2-12 team.  They were a little raw on the offensive end but for their lack of shooting talent they more than made up for it with their rebounding efforts and disruptive defensive play.  I think Millsaps ability to outrebound OU by 12 was the result of Oglethorpe missing their top 3 posts who also happen to be their 3 tallest players. 

On a side note:  I agree that Bowie had a great game but as I was getting frequent stat sheet updates throughout the game she only had 7 rebounds when she picked up her 4th foul late in the ballgame.  I noticed she was close to getting that triple double so I payed attention to her rebounding and don't believe she got 10... I think she ended up with 8... 9 at most.  This does not take away from her amazing game as 11 blocks is a VERY impressive stat-  any idea where that stacks up against the most block of all time for a SCAC player?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on January 19, 2008, 05:29:09 PM
I hadn't thought about the 11 blocks as a potential record.  It was 2 shy of the record set by Erin McKenzie of Hendrix vs. Univ. of Dallas, 2/19/2003.

It was good to meet you as well. I wish Millsaps had an internet broadcast going for their games and maybe that will happen in a year or two.  Not surprisingly, I took some photos of you doing the broadcast and I'll get those to you when I get the games photos finished.  That might be a few days.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on January 19, 2008, 05:53:11 PM
Thanks Frank.  Just curious where you went to find out about the block record?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 19, 2008, 07:46:47 PM
Surprise so far from Georgetown:
Rhodes 29 Southwestern 24 at the half. Azizi has 12 points for the Pirates; Ashley Farrell leads Rhodes with 8. The Lynx could use something magical tonight given that they've not won a SCAC game yet. Those wanting to follow the action will find it on CSTV Gametracker on the Southwestern website.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on January 19, 2008, 07:58:52 PM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on January 19, 2008, 05:53:11 PM
Thanks Frank.  Just curious where you went to find out about the block record?

The SCAC home office does a great job of making information available for the slightly over obsessive fan.  If you go to http://www.scac-online.org/ and then scroll down that first page to the bottom, you'll see a section for "2007-08 SCAC WINTER RECORD BOOK".  The page for women's single-game basketball records is 133.  There's a ton of information in the guide and it is well worth printing out and keeping, especially with all these debates going on about players and teams of the past.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 19, 2008, 08:49:12 PM
It was magical for only the 1st half. Final Score: Southwestern 73 Rhodes 59
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 20, 2008, 01:49:19 PM
possible upset brewing in Sherman...

AC leads DePauw 30-28 at the half.  DePauw led 23-10 after a 15-0 run, but the 'Roos responded with a 20-5 run to close out the half.  AC has only made 8 field goals, but 5 of those have been threes, and they are 9-of-10 from the free throw line so far.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 20, 2008, 02:01:41 PM
Quote from: jekelish on January 20, 2008, 01:49:19 PM
possible upset brewing in Sherman...

AC leads DePauw 30-28 at the half.  DePauw led 23-10 after a 15-0 run, but the 'Roos responded with a 20-5 run to close out the half.  AC has only made 8 field goals, but 5 of those have been threes, and they are 9-of-10 from the free throw line so far.
Once must deduce that the Colorado Springs to Sherman road trip is a tough one, regardless of the quality of the opponents.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPULefty22 on January 20, 2008, 02:44:13 PM
There will be no upset in Sherman this afternoon... DPU controls the second half en route to a win over Austin. 69-64 final.

BSC 81, Trinity 64 at San Antonio. I don't understand how a team like Trinity could be trailing by as many as 21 at home and then lose by 17. Any reasonable explanations as to how that could happen are welcome. Or are we ready to acknowledge that:

1) BSC is really good
2) Anything can happen in the SCAC
3) No team in this conference is immune to off-games?

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on January 20, 2008, 02:46:23 PM
Oglethorpe has put a sluggish game in Jackson behind them as they have opened up on fire in Hendrix's new Wellness and Athletic Center.  Maybe the superb lighting has allowed OU to focus better on the basket as they lead 55-34 at the half.  OU has shot 51.2% from the floor and 50% from 3.   12 players have seen action for OU with 10 of them scoring.   Brittany Corbett leads all scorers with 15 points on an economical 7-9 shooting followed closely by Anna Findley with 10 points.   Byler leads Hedrix with 13 points off the bench.  Hendrix is shooting well (44% from the field but turnovers are killing them)

OU has forced Hendrix into 17 first half turnovers as Anna Findley has continued her stellar defensive play with 4 steals in the first half after having back to back games with 7 steals.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 20, 2008, 02:51:58 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 13, 2008, 03:50:44 PM
at BSC 71, DePauw 58.

BSC is providing a good measuring stick of its D3 opponents.

http://www.d3hoops.com/school/BSC/womens/2008

Quote from: DPULefty22 on January 20, 2008, 02:44:13 PM

BSC 81, Trinity 64 at San Antonio. I don't understand how a team like Trinity could be trailing by as many as 21 at home and then lose by 17. Any reasonable explanations as to how that could happen are welcome. Or are we ready to acknowledge that:

1) BSC is really good...?

BSC is really that good, and they are providing the common opponent to aid in the South Region Rankings.   ;)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on January 20, 2008, 03:56:46 PM
Oglethorpe finishes off he Warriors by a final score of 93-82.  The final score does not do justice as OU was up by as many as 27 points but give Hendrix credit, they fought back in the second half as all Oglethorpe players saw significant minutes in todays game.

Byler led all scorers for Hendrix as she put up a career game of 34 points and 5 rebounds.  Also scoring in double figures were Merrit with 10 Clark with 14 and Hawkins with 15.

Brittany Corbett led the Petrels with 24 points and 3 rebounds.  Findley chipped in with 17 points 5 reb. and 5 steals.  Kulavic rounded out the Petrels in double figures with 14 pts. 6 reb.  4 ast.

Big weekend next week at Dorough as Oglehorpe will take on Trinity and Southwesten.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on January 20, 2008, 06:50:27 PM
Millsaps gets their first SCAC win of the season with a 60-55 victory over Sewanee.  Jessica Bowie followed up her triple-double against OU (15 points, 10 rebounds, and 11  blocks) with a double-double of 22 points and 14 rebounds.  I don't know how all the individual players in the SCAC did this weekend, but it is hard to imagine that anyone has a stronger argument for this week's POTW award.

Tiffany Whitmore added 14 points for Millsaps, followed by Crystal Dickerson (9), LaReina Adams -8-, Rhonda Webb (4) and Krista Clark (3).  LaReina Adams also added 7 rebounds and Millsaps outrebounded Sewanee 42-32. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 22, 2008, 08:00:06 AM
This weekend provides a slight respite from the road for the Lady Colonels where they wrapped up a 1-3 swing. Millsaps got a much needed win and presents a good challenge for Centre this Friday. Nevertheless, Centre needs to chalk up a home win or two, and this weekend provides that opportunity. Go Lady Colonels!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Major_Fan on January 24, 2008, 04:13:45 PM
On a side note:  I agree that Bowie had a great game but as I was getting frequent stat sheet updates throughout the game she only had 7 rebounds when she picked up her 4th foul late in the ballgame.  I noticed she was close to getting that triple double so I payed attention to her rebounding and don't believe she got 10... I think she ended up with 8... 9 at most.

FlightofthePetrel... She picked up her 4th foul with 9:32 left in the game and had several blocks and boards after that.  You have to remember that everytime there is a block, there is also a rebound.  If she blocked a shot and grabbed the ball, then she will be credited with both.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on January 24, 2008, 11:29:05 PM
Good Point Major Fan... that would explain the missing rebounds that I didn't "see".  Thank you for your correction  ;)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on January 25, 2008, 08:31:48 PM
Millsaps gets their second straight SCAC win with a 61-56 victory over Centre this evening.  No box scores anywhere that I can find.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 25, 2008, 08:46:00 PM
Reporting from Mallory Gym - Rhodes 69 Austin 64. Rhodes played a strong 1st half leading at the half by 10. They gave the lead several times in the 2nd stanza, but prevailed down the stretch by getting defensive stops and converting free throws. Ashley Farrell & Cameron Whitaker each score 17 pts for the Lynx. A much needed conference win - the 1st.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on January 25, 2008, 11:14:06 PM
Oglthorpe overcomes a strong and pesky Trinity team to earn their 15th win of the year- against only 2 losses.  I know this isn't necessarily a signature win but it is a resume builder for this OU team to beat a much bigger Trinity team without 2 of their posts (Richmann was back but played limited minutes).  Oglethorpe was paced by their Junior class once again as Kulavic and Findley led the team with 20 points and 6 rebounds piece.  Findley also had 5 more steals which gives her 22  in the last 4 games.  Grace chipped in 19 points.  10 rebounds   6 assists and 4 steals  and Brooks followed up her stellar defensive effort with 9 points and 10 rebounds.  Hopefully this win (along with a hopeful win against Southwestern) will kick OU back into the D3Hoops Top 25... if not we're fine flying below the radar come tournament time once again.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Major_Fan on January 26, 2008, 01:06:39 AM
Box Score from the Millsaps/Centre Game:

http://www.millsaps.edu/athletic/basketball-w/mcw-012508.htm

Great game from freshman Kristy Dowdy, scoring a career-high 14 off the bench (4-of-4 from 3-point range) in addition to LaReina Adams' double-double.  The Majors still have an outside chance at the fourth spot in the West if they win three of their last seven.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 26, 2008, 10:10:16 AM
Didn't get a lot of info on the Centre-Millsaps game. Stats reflect that Centre Girls struggled shooting in this one. When they're not able to make some 3's, the inside game usually can't develop much substance. This was likely the case last night. Centre caught a Majors squad that is improving steadily. The Colonels will need to continually improve their ball movement to make the offense go in future games. They'll need a strong performance from Chelsea Goodman Sunday to come out victorious against Hendrix.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 26, 2008, 10:30:04 AM
Rhodes played the best game I've witnessed this year last night. What made them impressive was the improved team concept they're employing, particularly on the offensive end. Their star senior, Ashley Farrell, has figured out what opponents already knew - Stop Ashley, Beat Rhodes!  Ashley was outstanding distributing the rock last night and the girls as a whole got solid perimeter ball movement throughout the game. We're even seeing some evidence of life in the post with the emergence of 6'2" Cameron Whitaker who seems comfortable going either left or right to the basket. Cameron has a nice touch and is deadly from the line when fouled. Ashley helped the perimeter game by finding Becky Atnip, Becca Clarin and others for good 3 looks several times - Becky canned 4 of them against Austin. Ashley still got her points last night, but in a different way - good shots, free throws and open drives. There were far fewer desperate possessions with wild shots or turnovers last night for Rhodes. The team seems to be melding smartly into form. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on January 26, 2008, 04:18:46 PM
It's a Saturday afternoon and I'm taking a break from working on the Millsaps photos from last Sunday.  You can only crop, edit, enhance, save and delete for so long before your eyes start spinning.  I don't claim to know all the answers or to know the future, but I think I have a reputation on the D3 message boards of being fairly straight forward and honest in my opinions.  With that in mind, here is my opinion on:

The State of Women's Basketball at Millsaps:

Let me start with my conclusion:  I think Millsaps will be a strong contender to win the 2008-09 SCAC championship.  If that strikes you as LOL funny, then I certainly understand you feelings.  When Millsaps beat Sewanee last Sunday, it had been 15 SCAC losses since their previous SCAC win, also over Sewanee, on 1/14/07.  When Millsaps beat Centre on the road last night it was their first SCAC road win since 2/5/06, another win over Sewanee.  This 2-game win streak boosts the Millsaps SCAC record to 6-30 over the last 2 and a half season, hardly a record indicating that a championship season might be on the horizon.

So either I've been drinking, or I have some reasons to back up my conclusion.  I swear I haven't touch a drop of alcohol in days, so let me go back to the beginning of the short Millsaps coaching career of Head Coach Mary Bolton (and let me stress that this is not a comparison of coaches, players or teams from the past vs. the same of today.  This is simply a post about where Millsaps is today, how they got there, and where I think they are headed.)

It's important to remember that Coach Jeffries resigned in May, 2006 and Coach Bolton was hired in August, 2006.  The timing of the change basically meant a year without recruiting players, something that is really evident this season with Millsaps often going into games with only 8 players dressed out.  It's similar to the NCAA penalizing a school by cutting down on the scholarships that can be given out--it creates a trickle down effect that last for several years.

With no chance to recruit, the 2006-07 was played mostly with the players who came back from the 2005-06 season.  Lack of experience characterized that team with just 2 returning starters and the next most experienced players had 138 and 108 minutes of playing time in 2005-06.  There was some talent amongst the inexperienced, with LaReina Adams going from 108 minutes of PT as a freshman to becoming the team's leading scorer and the SCAC's leading rebounder as a sophomore.  Debbie Sturgis went from 72 minutes of PT as a junior to becoming a solid senior starter who had a 24 point, 16 rebound game late in the season.  Still, it was a team with little experience, little depth, and a coach who was trying to put in a different style of play.  Under the circumstance, it's hard to imagine a record much better than the 3-20 that was posted.

That gets us to this year.  With a roster of 10 to start the season, depth is once again a problem.  That roster is now down to 9 and only 8 have dressed out for the last 8 games.  Of the 9 players, 5 players are new to the team (3 freshmen, 2 junior transfers), 3 players played last year, and one redshirted last year with an injury.  This is where the lack of a recruiting class in 2006-07 has really hurt.

With so little depth, the normal things that happen to a team over the course of a season have really hurt and it shows in the record.  Things that have really hurt the win-loss record this year are:
--A freshman recruit enrolled at Millsaps but never played for non-basketball related reasons.  It's not the kind of thing that would hurt an OU, Trinity or DePauw, but those are teams with enough players to actually scrimmage in practice.
--LaReina Adams didn't play to start the season, still rehabbing from knee surgery.  She's just now getting back close to the level of play she showed last year when double-doubles were commonplace.  The 5 Millsaps losses prior to Christmas were all by 9 points or less--a healthy LaReina would have reversed some of those losses.
--Jessica Bowie had a triple-double against OU but she missed the previous 5 games, all losses.  It certainly changes the look of the team when she is not available to play.
--And just in general, not having enough players to scrimmage in practice has to be a problem.  Plus, the lack of subs is often a factor in the last 10 minutes of a game, especially since Millsaps in moving to a more uptempo style of play. 

Even with all of the above problems, it is evident that progress is being made.  The two wins are nice, but just as important is the close game against OU last weekend and the effort against Trinity the previous week.  In one of the games that Bowie missed, Millsaps was within 4 of Trinity with 10 minutes to go.  That hasn't happened very often in recent years.  Millsaps was also within 6 points of local rival Belhaven with a minute to play in a game where LaReina Adams didn't dress out and Crystal Dickerson missed most of the first half with foul trouble.  Millsaps has played a lot of games where just one or two extra players would have turned a loss into a win.

And what does the future hold?  For this year, I won't be surprised if Millsaps misses the SCAC Tournament, but I don't count them out.  Winning at DePauw and Trinity would be very surprising, and winning at Southwestern would be difficult.  Can Millsaps win the 4 home games against Rhodes, Austin, Colorado and Hendrix?  Probably yes to any one of them but winning all four is a tall task.  It's not impossible to win all 4, but that would pleasantly surprise me (remember that I'm trying to give an honest opinion here).

For the 2008-09 season, if they get a recruiting class in like this year's group, then they will be tough to beat since there are no seniors this year.  I hear that the recruiting is going well and I have no reason to doubt that based on what Coach Bolton did in her first year of recruiting.  I have a lot of confidence in the coaching skills of Coach Bolton and her staff based on what I've seen her get out of her players both in 2006-07 and this year.  It gives me hope that Millsaps will soon be returning to the upper level of the SCAC standings, a place they regularly held when the SCAC was first established.

Time will prove me right or prove me wrong.  In the meantime, I guess I need to get back to all of the cropping and editing.  Taking the photos is just the tip of the iceburg when it comes to the finished product.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPULefty22 on January 26, 2008, 04:31:48 PM
Frank, I actually don't think you've lost your mind. Any team without any seniors is one that is pretty clearly building for the future, and the Majors have some solid individual talents in Bowie, Dickerson, Whitmore and Adams. The key for them will be to flesh out the roster with quality depth.

When you look at the teams that are perennially successful in the SCAC - DePauw and Trinity, to be specific - it's been their depth that has put them over the top. DPU won a national title last year because they could go 10-12 deep and not miss a beat when their reserves were in.

There have been teams in this conference - and the ones that come immediately to mind are the Huggins-Hicks-McKenzie teams at Hendrix - that have had starting fives that could stand up favorably with DPU and TU. But those Hendrix teams never had a deep, talented bench. Their reserves were used mostly to give the stars a 2-3 minute break and hopefully hold the fort, because there was a major talent drop-off between the starters and the subs. You can get away with that against other teams that aren't deep or just aren't as good, but when you run into better, deeper teams, the task just becomes too tall.

It looks like that's about where Millsaps stands at the present. A 10-player roster is enough of a handicap, and most of those reserves are inexperienced. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see them hang with the Tigers in Greencastle tomorrow, but I expect DePauw will be the sharper, fresher team down the stretch and I figure they'll pull away.

Now, with another solid recruiting class in Jackson - and I think a three-point shooter or two is an absolute must - next year's Majors have a chance to be pretty solid. I think they'll be an SCAC Tournament team next year as presently constructed anyway, but the difference between being good and cracking the conference's upper echelon is and has always been a quality bench.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on January 26, 2008, 05:09:11 PM
Frank,  I too think that you're on the right track with your thinking... but not to the same degree.  Millsaps would be my sleeper team next year... I would probably pick them to finish 4th in the conference at best.  OU will return virtually their entire team once again next year only loosing Brittany Corbett.  I don't think they'll be able to get over the hump and beat the elite teams but I do think they will be the lower end SCAC teams and will win the close games against he middle of the pack.  This years Millsaps team, from what I saw, are relentless in crashing the boards (maybe because they know most of the shots they take have a good chance of not going in).  Regardless of this years team record I belive one more recruiting class under Bolton and maybe a transfer or two could really improve this Millsaps team.  If they work on their shots over the summer and raise their shooting percentage up a few points I could easily see Millsaps making some noise in the SCAC next year... similar to OU a few years back.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 26, 2008, 05:18:03 PM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on January 25, 2008, 11:14:06 PM
Hopefully this win (along with a hopeful win against Southwestern) will kick OU back into the D3Hoops Top 25... if not we're fine flying below the radar come tournament time once again.

I don't think the tournament starts this week. Even if Oglethorpe doesn't get into the poll this week it doesn't mean they won't still climb.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on January 26, 2008, 06:27:33 PM
"This years Millsaps team, from what I saw, are relentless in crashing the boards (maybe because they know most of the shots they take have a good chance of not going in)."

That's actually pretty funny, and unfortunately it is also very true.  Millsaps defintely needs a couple of solid 3-point shooters, either from recruiting or from some of the players working hard on that aspect of their game.  I think there are a couple of players on the team that could fill that role in time.  It's just a matter of how hard they work on their game in the off season.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 26, 2008, 09:21:54 PM
Frank, we're in a similar boat at Centre.  Your squad may be further along given the road win your Lady Majors got at Danville last night.  We have a slightly different problem, but it too revolves around depth and consistency.  Actually there is some 3-point shooting, but you can't count on 3-pointers to fall consistently every night if you can't get the ball movement to get decent looks, or occasionally drop it in the middle.  Centre's issue is really finding a post player or two.  I don't think you're crazy either.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 27, 2008, 03:59:44 PM
Excellent win today for Wendie Austin-Robinson's Centre Girls against Hendrix. Chelsea Goodman and Jenny Jones stepped up big for the Colonels with 23 and 17 respectively. That puts them in 3rd position in the east going to Texas next weekend.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Rufio on January 28, 2008, 12:05:59 PM
Just out of curiosity, when will the first regional rankings come out?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 28, 2008, 11:55:00 PM
Quote from: Rufio on January 28, 2008, 12:05:59 PM
Just out of curiosity, when will the first regional rankings come out?
Next Wednesday, February 6th  13th.



Thanks to Pat Coleman for correcting this. -- RT
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 30, 2008, 11:05:21 PM
Hoping Lady Colonels can build off a good performance from this past Sunday, and apply it this weekend in Texas. It would be great to gain a split (1-1) on this roadtrip. The team is definitely gaining some confidence.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on January 31, 2008, 08:11:04 AM
Millsaps, a team that was on the losing end of some blowout games last year, was on the winning side of a 74-43 game with Rust last night.  I know Rust isn't the strongest competition in women's D3 basketball, but I continue to be impressed by the improvement of the Millsaps team and players over the course of the season. 

They dressed out 9 for the first time since Christmas and maybe Millsaps has a chance to sneak into the SCAC Tournament if everyone can stay healthy and things will fall just right over the last 3 weeks of the season.  Here's the box score for last night's game:

http://www.millsaps.edu/athletic/basketball-w/mcw-013008.htm
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 01, 2008, 10:59:58 AM
I'll be making the treck to Colorado this weekend to do the Oglethorpe Men's and Women's games.  If anyone is interested here's the link: http://www.oglethorpe.edu/athletics/listen_live.asp

You can also watch it live for a cost of $6 here:  http://www.b2livetv.com/default.asp?v=Basketball
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 01, 2008, 05:17:34 PM
I'll be posting on the board from time to time tonight on the Women's action from Trinity where the Tigers take on Centre. This will be an uphill battle all the way for the Colonels.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 01, 2008, 07:16:23 PM
Trinity is up 21-6 with 13:09 left in the 1st half.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 01, 2008, 07:23:19 PM
9:35 left 1st half Trinity up 28-11.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 01, 2008, 07:31:27 PM
Trinity leading 34-21 with 5:35 to go in the 1st half. Trinity has made a ton of 3's.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 01, 2008, 07:43:54 PM
And apparently closed the half with a 17-2 run to take a 51-23 lead at the half.  Ouch.

Thanks for the updates and hope you are enjoying your trip to TX.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 01, 2008, 07:45:29 PM
Trinity leads at half - 51-23. Shelby leads Trinity with 12; Vonderbrink has 8 for Centre. Trinity is winning in all facets of the game - defense, rebounding, 3's and post play. Trinity cooled off on the 3-point line and managed to post up to score in the last 5 minutes of the half. Centre has probably had no more than 6 uncontested looks at the goal all night. Colonels are playing with grit, but are overmatched by the Tigers, particularly on defensive side and on the boards.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 01, 2008, 07:51:40 PM
38-36 Oglethorpe leads AC at the half
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 01, 2008, 08:07:35 PM
Trinity leads at the 12:30 mark - 63-30.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 01, 2008, 08:16:51 PM
Trinity has flat out whipped Centre 70-32 at 7:18 mark. Colonels have 7 2nd half points by my count. Time to head to the Riverwalk I'm afraid. Tigers are very solid. Should be a good contest tomorrow night when they host DePauw.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 01, 2008, 08:27:13 PM
61-52 Oglethorpe leads, under five remaining.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 01, 2008, 08:27:15 PM
Trinity wins 78-44.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 01, 2008, 08:31:38 PM
Hey Southwestern is doing live stats this year.  Giving DPU a game, Tigers lead 44-35 with 4:16 to play.

Go to http://southwesternpirates.cstv.com/ for links.  They have paid live video (which apparently is pay-by-season, $99).
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 01, 2008, 08:37:30 PM
SW closes to 45-41 with 3:01 to play, Lady Pirates' Natasha Asizi fouls out. 

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 01, 2008, 08:44:25 PM
Oglethorpe wins 72-54...Katie Kulavic had a triple double, though that includes 10 turnovers.  She did come close to a legit triple double though, with 14 points, 10 boards, 8 assists...

Biz Richmann came off the bench to make 8-of-8 for a game-high 18 points.

Austin College went 0-12 from three in the second half, and 6-15 from the free throw line after halftime, pretty much dooming them and allowing Oglethorpe to break open a close game.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 01, 2008, 08:47:30 PM
Southwestern goes cold for a couple of minutes and that's all DPU needed to secure the win, 55-45. 

Jenna Fernandez had 20 pts (9-15 shooting) and 8 rebounds in 34 minutes to lead DePauw, and Cassie Pruzin added 17 and 8.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPULefty22 on February 01, 2008, 09:00:07 PM
You beat me to posting the score, Ron. That might have been as ugly a game as I can recall the Tigers playing in a long time, but they were able to put together a good defensive effort and edge a scrappy SU team. The trend of DPU seeing top-notch efforts from all their SCAC competition continues.

And how about the upset in Conway tonight? HC 86, BSC 80 - though it should be noted BSC was without Ross.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 02, 2008, 07:45:53 PM
Southwestern Women lead Centre at the half 35-29. Game pits Southwestern inside play against Centre's 3-point shooters. Other than a small surge near the end of the half by the Pirates, the game has gone back and forth quite a bit with a number of lead changes.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 02, 2008, 08:24:29 PM
Southwestern up 57-45 with 8:09 to play.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 02, 2008, 08:40:02 PM
DPU wins 68-51. Southwestern leads 66-56 with 1:04 to go.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 02, 2008, 08:44:38 PM
Final score from Georgetown: Southwestern 70 Centre 56. The game was actually closer than the final margin would indicate. Centre couldn't defend well enough in the post tonight; otherwise they might have had a chance to steal a road win. Good solid team effort for the Lady Colonels tonight.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 03, 2008, 03:04:12 PM
Amber Stafford buries a three with 2.5 seconds left to give AC a 70-67 win over Sewanee here in Sherman...Katy Williams got another double double with 22 points and 10 boards...Courtney Childress had 14 and 12 boards for Sewanee...
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 03, 2008, 03:49:53 PM
Any word on Hendrix-Rhodes?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 03, 2008, 05:56:35 PM
as a matter of fact, i have both Hendrix/Rhodes scores...

Women: Rhodes 62, Hendrix 58

Men: Rhodes 83, Hendrix 73
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPULefty22 on February 03, 2008, 05:59:42 PM
Was shocked to see today's 85-80 OU loss to Colorado College. A look at the box score revealed a number that seemed to be quite a point of anger in OU's earlier loss in Greencastle this year, as the CC Tigers shot 19 more free throws than the Petrels.

But before the phrases 'refs' and 'back pocket' get thrown into the conversation in conjunction with each other, consider that the foul differential, which was OU +6, hardly suggests any evil doings at Reid Gymnasium this afternoon.

Seems like it was some game regardless, with Anna Findley shooting 2-for-21 from the field (including a John Starks-esque 1-for-14 from downtown... Mama always said there'd be days like that) and Melanie Auguste, perhaps the conference's most underrated player, throwing up 22, 9, and 10 in a winning effort.

Meanwhile... what DPU did in the second half against Trinity on the road last night deserved a bit more mention. DePauw went on a 27-4 run in the first 10 minutes of the half, and Cassie Pruzin scored all 27 of her points in the second 20 minutes of play. Truly an impressive 'statement' win for the Old Gold on the second half of the always-tough Texas roadie.

Also, I haven't seen it mentioned here, but word is that BSC's Reba Ross tore her ACL and is out for the year.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OUfan22 on February 04, 2008, 02:43:34 PM
DPUlefty22, first of all, dont assume you know anything about a game that you did not see. you have no idea what the refs were like since like i said, you obviously were not there (and even if you were you're clearly biased against OU anyway) and although the refs were not good, i doubt any OU fan or player would point to the refs as  the reason they lost the game.

secondly, i find it interesting how you keep referring to depauw's wins as "impressive statements" etc. they are the reigning national champs, why is it so impressive and such a statement for them to handle decent teams? it may be unimpressive for them to lose, and a statment for another team to beat them, but as natl champs they are expected to have a significant winning margin.  whoop-de-doo
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 04, 2008, 03:00:10 PM
Quote from: OUfan22 on February 04, 2008, 02:43:34 PM
i doubt any OU fan or player would point to the refs as  the reason they lost the game.

They sure did after what happened in Greencastle.  Even though the foul differential was very similar.  All you gotta do is go back a couple of pages to see the allegations of home cookin'.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPULefty22 on February 04, 2008, 05:10:34 PM
Quote from: OUfan22 on February 04, 2008, 02:43:34 PM
DPUlefty22...  find it interesting how you keep referring to depauw's wins as "impressive statements" etc. they are the reigning national champs, why is it so impressive and such a statement for them to handle decent teams? it may be unimpressive for them to lose, and a statment for another team to beat them, but as natl champs they are expected to have a significant winning margin.  whoop-de-doo

May I remind you of something that you yourself wrote around the start of this season? And I'm not meaning to pick on you because you were agreeing with another OU supporter, but this seemed to be the widely held opinion amongst the folks down Atlanta way in November...

Quote from: OUfan22 on October 29, 2007, 12:14:38 PM
Im gonna have to go with flightof thepetrel on this one and not because only did depauw lose Bondi, they lost doughty who in my opinion was the ringleader that made the team go...yes they return some good players but as close as the games were between the two teams last year, they are likely not going to be enough with OU returning everyone...in addition to a deep and impressive freshman class

So yes, I think it's fair to call DPU's wins 'statement' wins... with the statement being "Forget who we lost from last year's team. This conference belongs to US, and will until somebody knocks us off the throne."

I mean, teams just don't go to San Antonio and beat Trinity by 17 on a regular basis. If I were calling a 17-point win at Hendrix or at Centre a 'statement' win, then your comments might be closer to valid... but Trinity's really good, really tough to beat and home, and DPU hammered them in the second half.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OUfan22 on February 04, 2008, 05:22:54 PM
yes there was allegations of home cooking at the depauw game...that was because the refs at the depauw game were much worse, whereas at the CC game, it wasn't as extreme....its not unusual to complain about a 33 ft attempt differential...yes 19 is pretty bad (and it wasnt because OU wasnt getting fouled "on the shot") but the home team is expected to have the advantage when it comes to the reffing at any school...  but just becuase bad reffing was commented on one game doesn't mean OU is gonna blame every loss on the refs..
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPULefty22 on February 04, 2008, 05:24:21 PM
And if that's the case, then great. All I'm doing is pointing out that there's been recent precedent.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 04, 2008, 10:35:03 PM
Quote from: OUfan22 on February 04, 2008, 05:22:54 PM
yes there was allegations of home cooking at the depauw game...that was because the refs at the depauw game were much worse, whereas at the CC game, it wasn't as extreme....its not unusual to complain about a 33 ft attempt differential...yes 19 is pretty bad (and it wasnt because OU wasnt getting fouled "on the shot") but the home team is expected to have the advantage when it comes to the reffing at any school...  but just becuase bad reffing was commented on one game doesn't mean OU is gonna blame every loss on the refs..

Well I suppose I'll have to take your word for it, then.  You had a lot better seat for the Colorado game than I did.  Heck, you had a lot better look at the officiating in Greencastle than I did.  And I was there.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 05, 2008, 06:03:23 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 28, 2008, 11:55:00 PM
Quote from: Rufio on January 28, 2008, 12:05:59 PM
Just out of curiosity, when will the first regional rankings come out?
Next Wednesday, February 6th.

Feb. 13, actually.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: vozdelospetrels on February 07, 2008, 01:35:15 PM
Maybe I can put some stuff about referees in perspective. I am one of the biggest referee critics you will ever see, but something I've always noticed is that referees tend to call a lot of fouls against the more aggressive team, if there is one, at the start of a game. As the games progresses refs loosen or tighten the game depending on the atmosphere and attitude of the game and the individual players. For OU they are usually the aggressor, that's just their style. Now I did not see the OU vs DePauw or OU vs. CC games this season, but with the way OU plays, I know that they often struggle when games are closely called by the refs. What typically happens for OU is they see a lot of fouls early on in games when they are the clear aggressors, if the other team steps up and matches OU's aggressiveness then the fouls start getting called against both teams as the refs tighten up the calling to maintain control and OU will end the game with a lot of fouls called against them. If the other team doesn't increase their level of intensity then OU usually roles to an easy victory or the referees assume the other team just isn't aggrressive and they tend be more loose with the whistle when this happens. Additionally, The OU fans are used to looser called games, especially when at home we have have the same ref 5 to 6 times a year. Refs get used to the styles of the teams they ref most often. They are not robots and individual discretion is used in their calling of the games. Hopefully this makes sense to someone other than me, but it's something I've noticed to a certain degree and by no means am I saying that this is an absolute; only a trend I've seen.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 07, 2008, 04:25:08 PM
Quote from: vozdelospetrels on February 07, 2008, 01:35:15 PM
Additionally, The OU fans are used to looser called games, especially when at home we have have the same ref 5 to 6 times a year. Refs get used to the styles of the teams they ref most often. They are not robots and individual discretion is used in their calling of the games. Hopefully this makes sense to someone other than me, but it's something I've noticed to a certain degree and by no means am I saying that this is an absolute; only a trend I've seen.

That has always been my thinking.  I've been to Dorough on 3 occassions, and I've seen highway robbery committed under the basket just about everytime down the floor.  Nothing wrong with that.  That's fine by me.  If they call it the same on both ends, it dosen't bother me all that much.  Adjust.  But, I'm not the coach, either.  I always felt if they're going to call it physical, then that's the way you've got it to play it.  Part of being the road team, isn't it?  When I was younger and angrier, I left that place saying it was the worst officiated game I'd ever seen.  But, it really wasn't.  It was just different.

Now, when a team who is used to that style of play goes on the road to some places, they aren't going to get away with that stuff.  They're going to get whistled and they're going to get in foul trouble. 

Every team in this conference, for the most part, knows what kind of game they're going to get from the officials at home.   Seems like a basic enough statement, right?  Coaches and players start getting a feel for the ways the game flows at their home gym.  My personal opinion is that they call it pretty tight at DePauw most nights.  Not much funny stuff allowed.  It's always been that way.  And DePauw's going to play it like that.  If a team shows up at the Raymond "Gaumey" Neal Fieldhouse throwing elbows and pushing and shoving, they're going to get fouls called on them and the home team is going to shoot a big ol' pile of free throws.

I've had this theory about this very issue for quite a few years now.  I'll submit for group discussion time.  Perhaps this is an issue for our conference more than any other due to the many different regions the SCAC contains.  I've always thought you get different kinds of officiating in different parts of the country.  Seemed to be the conclusion I reached after my travels.  For instance, Oglethorpe's not the only one that calls it loosey goosey.  It's like that in a lot of the schools in the southeast.  When you make the Texas trip, you get something different.  I would assume when you make the Colorado trip, you would again, get something different.  This stuff doesn't happen to Hope and Calvin in the MIAA.  They're right down the road.  Doesn't happen to all the Wisconsin schools.  Doesn't really happen to anybody other than UAA, I suppose.  Maybe the ASC to some extent.  Thoughts?  Anybody?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: spfan22 on February 07, 2008, 11:29:10 PM
i would just like to say that i agree with both of the previous posts.. refs in different regions ref a different style of  game.. its up to the players and coaches to make adjustments to this within the first 5 or 6 minutes.. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 08, 2008, 06:35:59 AM
Wes, it even varies across the ASC.  Since each team seems to be from a separate "officiating hub", Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Dallas, East Texas, Central Texas, San Antonio, "Big Country" (Abilene/Brownwood) and trans-Pecos, there is a huge difference.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 08, 2008, 08:08:42 PM
Any word on the games in progress tonight?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 08, 2008, 08:57:07 PM
Southwestern led a good deal of the way but Trinity came up with a late second-half surge and shot enough intentional FTs at the end to win 67-60.

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 09, 2008, 10:32:12 AM
Centre couldn't pull out a win Friday night against Birmingham Southern so Sunday's visit from Rhodes represents an excellent opportunity for them to get a win. Keys to victory against Rhodes - (1) force the opponent to be perimeter oriented (2) shut down Ashley Farrell drives and dishes (3) offensively shoot the rock at 40% + and (4) Chelsea Goodman is able to loosen up the inside for shots and open 3's.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 10, 2008, 04:52:10 PM
Love to know the outcome of the Rhodes-Centre game if anyone has it.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 10, 2008, 06:11:55 PM
Centre got a big win over Rhodes this afternoon, winning 67-64 in two overtimes.  Chelsea Goodman had a double-double - 30 points, 11 rebounds.  She stepped it up bigtime.  This gets them closer to a shot at the tournament.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 12, 2008, 10:03:00 PM
Any thoughts from the fan bases of SCAC teams on the games this weekend?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 13, 2008, 01:03:28 AM
This board has been really quiet lately so I'll add to the conversation.

After moving up a few spots to #27 I think Oglethorpe goes on the road to capture 2 road victories at Bham and Rhodes.

I also believe Trinity will also get the sweep protecting the home court advantage nearing the SCAC tournament.

Depauw will beat Centre (no shocker there) but will be exciting will be the matchup between the men's team, I'd stick around for that!

I want to say Millsaps will upset Southwestern but it's being played in Georgetown so it's hard to pick against them... but I'll do it anyways- Millsaps in the upset special.  Southwestern bounces back to beat Hendrix on Saturday... or Sunday whenever they play.

Colorado will handle Austin easily and Aguste will put up a triple double... numbers that may earn her POTW

Last but not least.... Sewanee will defeat Rhodes (man what happened to this team! I picked them as the #4 or 5 team, I guess Farrel couldn't handle the WHOLE load) for the second time this season before falling to Birmingham on Sunday.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 13, 2008, 07:13:24 AM
I'll start with the West - agreed Trinity handles both Millsaps and Hendrix in convincing fashion. Southwestern does the same, grinding out 2 victories with superior post play. CC defeats Austin.

In the East, DePauw will bounce Centre without much fanfare. Oglethorpe gets 2 wins. Rhodes splits the weekend by winning against Sewanee (losing to OU). Sewanee loses 2 on the road.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: vozdelospetrels on February 13, 2008, 10:54:26 AM
Check out the OWP and OOWP on the D3hoop.scom main page. Looks Good for the SCAC.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: vozdelospetrels on February 13, 2008, 10:58:11 AM
Trinity, DePauw, and Oglethorpe all ranked in the top 60 for strength of schedule
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: sewanee tiger on February 13, 2008, 11:12:13 AM
Since we have one pick for Sewanee over Rhodes and one for Rhodes over Sewanee, I will cast the tie breaking vote in favor of my Lady Tigers! This is a huge game (relatively speaking). If Sewanee wins it will all but lock up the fourth spot from the eastern division for the conference tournament.

This will admittedly be a very tough game for us to win. Rhodes will be motivated to avenge the loss in November, plus they are at home.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 13, 2008, 01:13:59 PM
Quote from: vozdelospetrels on February 13, 2008, 10:54:26 AM
Check out the OWP and OOWP on the D3hoop.scom main page. Looks Good for the SCAC.

Well sure, but Trinity is also almost 60th in regional win percentage at 13-4 (.765), and that just isn't going to be good enough for them to get in unless they get by DePauw and Oglethorpe in the tourney and win the SCAC's Pool A bid.

That's my guess.  We'll know more when the regional rankings come out, but I wouldn't expect Trinity to be near the top of that list, if on it at all.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 13, 2008, 02:53:05 PM
And they're out. 

1. Howard Payne 19-0 21-0
2. McMurry 18-2 18-3
3. Oglethorpe 17-3 18-3
4. Trinity (Tex.) 14-4 15-5
5. Piedmont 14-3 18-3
6. Va. Wesleyan 16-5 17-5

Trinity is there.  It seems their strong OWP helped them over Piedmont (62nd, .568) and VWU (144th, .530) despite them having better records overall and in the region.

DePauw is third in the Great Lakes behind Thomas More (18-0, 21-0) and Hope (18-0, 20-0).
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 13, 2008, 03:55:01 PM
Quote from: Wes Anderson on February 13, 2008, 02:53:05 PM
And they're out. 

1. Howard Payne 19-0 21-0
2. McMurry 18-2 18-3
3. Oglethorpe 17-3 18-3
4. Trinity (Tex.) 14-4 15-5
5. Piedmont 14-3 18-3
6. Va. Wesleyan 16-5 17-5

Trinity is there.  It seems their strong OWP* helped them over Piedmont (62nd, .568) and VWU (144th, .530) despite them having better records overall and in the region.

DePauw is third in the Great Lakes behind Thomas More (18-0, 21-0) and Hope (18-0, 20-0).
*especially Trinity's win over HSU (16-5 overall /16-5 overall /13-4 ASC, HPU and McM losses)!

IMHO, if HSU beats Trinity in the second game of the season, then HSU is #6 in the South Region.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: vozdelospetrels on February 13, 2008, 04:35:36 PM
Oglethorpe's regional record appears incorrect. If DePauw and Wilmington are in the Great Lakes Region, and surely COlorado college isn't in the South Region, then shouldn't Oglethorpe be undefeated in the region as their three losses have come to those teams. Is this an oversight or am I missing something?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: vozdelospetrels on February 13, 2008, 04:56:48 PM
I was thinking that the Lady Petrels are undefeated in region play, and they have victories of the 4 & 5 teams in the south region. Would this have any effect on their current regional ranking, or will this all work itself out in the next rankings?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 13, 2008, 05:13:20 PM
Voz from what I remember from last year (when I believe I asked the same question)  all conference games are listed as regional games as well as all games played at the home venue.  Therefore Colorado and Depauw would count being conference games and the Wilmington game will count due to the fact that it was played at OU.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong on this- but I believe that is the case.

Also something else to think about... I think the Depauw and Colorado losses (that were away) are deemed better than if we were to have lost at home, it's small measure but it does help in the formulas. 

It does look good that OU beat the #4 and #5 South Region teams... surprisingly they beat the #4 team very handily and on their home court- that win, along with Trinity and BHAM, could be considered OU's signature wins and might have to carry them if they're not able to knock off Depauw in a few weeks.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: vozdelospetrels on February 13, 2008, 05:21:53 PM
Flight,

If what you say is correct, then I appreciate the insight. The conference games kind of make sense with counting for and against your regional ranking, however, I don't understand why a home game against a non-region opponent is considered a region game. Had Wilmington lost at Oglethorpe, then the loss would not go against their regional record, so why should it affect OU's record just because they played the game at home?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: vozdelospetrels on February 13, 2008, 05:29:39 PM
QuoteIt does look good that OU beat the #4 and #5 South Region teams... surprisingly they beat the #4 team very handily and on their home court- that win

I think you meant the #5 team is who  Oglethorpe beat on their home Court. You were at that game at Piedmont with me, and we both know that the Piedmont game could have been a much bigger blowout as Coach Satelle elected to play much of his bench early in the second half against the Piedmont regulars, which led to a run by PIedmont to cut the game to a 17 pt game. The PIedmont team that I saw that night was not a very strong team they must be playing much better ball at this point in the season because they did not impress me at all. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 13, 2008, 05:42:24 PM
Quote from: vozdelospetrels on February 13, 2008, 05:29:39 PM
QuoteIt does look good that OU beat the #4 and #5 South Region teams... surprisingly they beat the #4 team very handily and on their home court- that win

I think you meant the #5 team is who  Oglethorpe beat on their home Court.

You're right, I had the numbers mixed up... not to knock Piedmont but I doubt they've improved THAT much.  They are a good team, don't get me wrong, but I don't think they are deserving of the #5 Regional Ranking.  If they played in the SCAC they would finish 4th or 5th.  I think the reason they have such a good record is largely due to the schedule that they play.  With Maryville being down this year the GSAC is VERY weak.  They've played Brenau, Warner Southern, Spellman (twice) a Wesleyan team that averages 26 points per game (twice) Agnes Scott (twice) etc.- not exactly a tough schedule.  Like I said before this looks like a fairly BIG win in the eyes of the voters... so hopefully it will stay this way.  If a team like Trinity or Wilmington stays home and Piedmont makes it to the tournament it would be a shame.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: vozdelospetrels on February 13, 2008, 05:47:31 PM
Unfortunately if Piedmont does win their conference they will be receiving the auto bid.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 13, 2008, 06:45:18 PM
Two things...

1) All conference games do indeed count as regional games.

2) 
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on February 13, 2008, 05:42:24 PM
If a team like Trinity or Wilmington stays home and Piedmont makes it to the tournament it would be a shame.

Piedmont and has a better record and regional record than Trinity AND Wilmington, and has played a relatively tough schedule.  Not as tough as Trinity or Wilmington, but still pretty good compared to a lot of schools in the Pool C race.  The OWP isn't the only factor in the selection process.  You shouldn't use just the Oglethorpe result as the measuring stick for the Lions.  The NCAA certainly won't.  I fail to see your reason for driving the bus over Piedmont.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 13, 2008, 07:10:50 PM
Let me add to the last post slightly.  Like we've been talking about on the men's board, I think it's going to be tough for the SCAC to get 3 in.  Particularly if the third isn't making a VERY strong case for being there, which Trinity isn't yet.  Good OWP, but not a great regional record, not a good record against ranked teams in the region, etc.

And like I said on the men's board, the sky isn't falling yet.  We're not done yet.  There's still a month left until the decisions are made.  Let's not hyperventilate at the first rankings of the year.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 13, 2008, 07:28:26 PM
I wrote a big long schpeal but realized that I don't really have a point other than I think Peidmont's record is misleading. 

I'm not intending to drive the bus over them I just find it hard to believe they are the #5 ranked team in the South... I could be wrong though- the South might be weak.

As far as their schedule goes... I have to disagree with you when you say it's a relatively tough schedule... their conference winning percentage (excluding them of course b/c you can't play yourself) is .408 compared to the SCAC (also excluding Oglethorpe) is .517

To compare I have included below a few of the other D3 conferences winning percentages that have teams in the top 15 or so... I got tired of doing it after a while (I excluded the top team in each division b/c that's where OU and Piedmont are in their conferences... it only seemed fair)

MIAA .413      ASC  .464      WIA  .531      CAC   .480     PrAC  .488    NJAC  .544    MAC   .623  (only 6 members)     CCIW  .461    UAA   .742     LL  .487     NWC  .490

I'm not really sure what you can take these numbers to mean... but it does KIND OF show how each league stacks up... and what kind of teams they consist of and are playing against (overall).  Or it could mean nothing... which it most likely the case, none the less it gave me something to do for about 20 minutes?

Wes I agree with what you're saying on the mens board and how it compares here... and I'm not really fretting about these rankings, just merely pointing out a small detail that jumped out at me.  At least these rankings have somewhat sparked an interest to a recently uneventful SCAC Women's board.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 13, 2008, 08:11:51 PM
Those are great numbers, big fella.  Some really telling information there.  Nice job on digging all of that up.  BUT, unfortunately, it ain't a selection criteria. 

All of that stuff falls under the umbrella of region record and OWP.  Now, while Piedmont's OWP is 80th and Trinity's is 21th, you must also analyze all the other criteria before you start making decisions on who's in and who's not.  Piedmont is probably ranked below Trinity (despite having a better record) based on the fact that Trinity has played one of the toughest schedules in the country.  But, you still must look at the other factors in the selection process.  What's Trinity's record vs. ranked teams?  What's their record against common opponents with Piedmont?   

The strength of the GSAC (or relative lack thereof) does not tell the whole story.  In fact, that's the ONE factor that a team cannot control year in and year out.  Therefore, I find to be a bad idea to pick it out and use it to determine who is and isn't worthy of selection. Piedmont played a tough non-conf.  Oglethorpe, Methodist twice, and a bunch of 13-9ish teams.  There's still some difficulty there and 18-3 ain't bad.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 13, 2008, 08:40:06 PM
HAHA like I said, they probably don't mean anything... I'm still trying to decipher all the OWP and OOWP information.  Obviously you've been at this longer than I have and have a better grip for the ranking criteria, (I wasn't trying to say that you should use my numbers to rank the teams- only that they provided some interesting insight) so I'll trust your knowledge and go from there.

I look forward to getting another shot at your Tigers her next weekend... any chance you'll make it to Dorough for the 4th time?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 13, 2008, 09:07:36 PM
Unfortunately, my friend, I am afraid not making the trip.  I work weekends, so just picking up and driving to Atlanta isn't in the cards for me.  I'll have it dialed in on DPU radio.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 15, 2008, 07:24:26 PM
Rhodes is leading Sewanee early in the contest and we have a major stoppage of play - a faulty popcorn machine with perhaps a short in the wiring! The Memphis Fire Dept is on the scene checking everything. No signs of fire, but it'll probably back things up 30-35 minutes. The throng of fans are headed back in Mallory and b-ball will resume in about 15 minutes.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 15, 2008, 07:41:52 PM
Playing ball again; Lynx lead 19-14 at the 8 minute mark in the 1st half.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 15, 2008, 07:54:48 PM
Rhodes 25-24 at the half; Clarin has 8; Farrell 9 for Rhodes. Childress has 6 for the Tigers. Only 5 fouls combined for the 2 teams so they're making up the lost time from the faulty popcorn machine earlier.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 15, 2008, 08:22:37 PM
Rhodes leading with 11:16 to go 38-31.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 15, 2008, 08:44:59 PM
Rhodes wins 58-42.  Farrell had a fine game with good scoring (24 pts) and excellent judgment and defense (I counted 5 steals). Farrell made at least 4 3's and Clarin chipped in 14 pts, 4 3's as well. 

Rhodes will have to play absolutely out of its mind Sunday to have any chance with OU. The outcome of Sunday's game may dictate whether they make the tournament.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 16, 2008, 02:38:46 PM
DePauw won rather easily over Centre this afternoon at Senior Day at Neal Fieldhouse. No real surprise. In listening to the DePauw broadcast, the announcers noted that this was a "must win" game for the Lady Colonels to become SCAC-tournament bound. I don't think that's the case necessarily. Actually Centre is in the driver's seat for securing the 3rd or 4th seed in the East. This is on account of their 2-OT win last Sunday at Centre over Rhodes whom they've defeated twice during the season. Rhodes is in the of a  must-win position tomorrow with Oglethorpe at home. If Rhodes loses Sunday, it's a fight between Sewanee and Centre for the 3 and 4 spots. We'll see what happens.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 16, 2008, 02:42:50 PM
AC is demolishing Colorado College right now, up 44-19 at the half.  Kayla Redden hit a three with 1 second left to make it a 25 point game.  Katy Williams already has 11 boards for AC.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 16, 2008, 03:12:18 PM
AC leads 59-29 with 10:30 left against Colorado College...
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 17, 2008, 11:53:48 AM
If anyone is attending the Oglethorpe Rhodes game, would you mind posting updates- or pointing me in the right direction to finding live stats or a broadcast if available?   thanks
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 17, 2008, 04:34:37 PM
Oglethorpe 83, Rhodes 71.  There were live stats thru the Rhodes athletic site. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 17, 2008, 08:55:53 PM
Rhodes played a strong game today against Oglethorpe.  Rhodes' chance at getting to the tournament now probably hinges on Centre beating Sewanee next Sunday.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 18, 2008, 09:45:14 AM
The 3rd and 4th seedings for the SCAC tournament on the east side are coming down to the final week. Centre has a shot at #3 if they can win at Sewanee on Sunday.  This scenario would then allow Rhodes to crawl into #4, and Sewanee would be out. Now if Sewanee beats Centre, then Rhodes is out. Sewanee and Centre would be tied with 4 wins each. If the tie-breaker after head-head games is # of wins in the division, then Centre would get the #3 based on 3 Eastern Division wins versus 2 for Sewanee. I have no expertise in these matters.

I hope Centre wins regardless because I'd like a solid #3 and a victory. It would also be fun to see Rhodes make the tourney, too. Chelsea Goodman, put this team on your back Sunday and let's get the Lady Colonels a victory.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: sewanee tiger on February 19, 2008, 01:40:24 AM
Actually, I think it would be fun to see the Sewanee Lady Tigers make the tourney instead of Rhodes. Then again, I'm a little bit biased.

And yes, a huge key to this game for Sewanee will be how well we guard Chelsea Goodman. I like our chances because we will have Steffi Renninger available this time. Steffi did not play in the game in Danville in January (not using that as an excuse, of course). Also, it is Senior Day, and Courtney Childress will hopefully have a big game.

As I see it, Centre is already locked into the #3 seed. If Centre owns the tie-breaker over Sewanee due to wins in the division, then Centre should also get the tie-breaker over Rhodes since Centre beat Rhodes twice.

Anyway, it should be a very good game, and I'm looking forward to seeing it in person.





Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPULefty22 on February 19, 2008, 01:56:11 AM
Did a little amateur bracketology tonight, and I just wanted to confirm that pbrooks and sewanee tiger are both correct. UOS is in a win-and-in situation by virtue of having the tiebreaker over Rhodes. Just one win gets the purple-clad Tigers into the Tourney. If they sweep the weekend and Centre gets beat in Atlanta, they can go as high as the three seed... but with DPU coming to the mountain on Friday night, that's not terribly likely.

Centre, on the other hand, needs just one win to secure the #3 seed.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 19, 2008, 10:55:52 AM
Steffi Renninger is a nice player - I've seen her play twice this season against Hendrix and Rhodes. She's a good athlete and has a balanced game. I'm a little partial, too, and I would like to see Ashley Farrell and the other 5 Rhodes seniors play a little more.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 20, 2008, 12:24:06 AM
Quote from: sewanee tiger on February 19, 2008, 01:40:24 AM
Actually, I think it would be fun to see the Sewanee Lady Tigers make the tourney instead of Rhodes. Then again, I'm a little bit biased.

And yes, a huge key to this game for Sewanee will be how well we guard Chelsea Goodman. I like our chances because we will have Steffi Renninger available this time. Steffi did not play in the game in Danville in January (not using that as an excuse, of course). Also, it is Senior Day, and Courtney Childress will hopefully have a big game.

As I see it, Centre is already locked into the #3 seed. If Centre owns the tie-breaker over Sewanee due to wins in the division, then Centre should also get the tie-breaker over Rhodes since Centre beat Rhodes twice.

Anyway, it should be a very good game, and I'm looking forward to seeing it in person.







sewanee tiger, you're absolutely on target.  I verified through the SCAC office what the tie breakers are:

(1)  Best record in head-to-head competition between the tied teams
(2)  Divisional record
(3)  Divisional record against top teams in descending order
(4)  Cross-divisional record
(5)  Cross-divisional record against top teams in descending order
(6)  Coin flip

Assuming Sewanee beats Centre but loses to DePauw, Centre gains the #3 seed based on tie breaker 2 - divisional record; Sewanee #4 seed
If Centre beats Sewanee and DePauw beats Sewanee, then Centre gets #3 seed based on tie breaker 1 - best head-to-head record; Rhodes #4 seed
Should Sewanee win against both Centre and DePauw; Sewanee gets #3 seed; Centre #4 seed

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 20, 2008, 08:52:06 PM
Trinity's still making a strong case.  They have a solid region ranking is good and their OWP and OOWP are exceptional.

Here's the latest region ranking:

1 Howard Payne 23-0 21-0
2 Oglethorpe 20-3 18-3
3 McMurry 20-3 20-2
4 Trinity (Texas) 17-5 16-4
5 Piedmont 20-3 16-3
6 Christopher Newport 18-4 17-3

Problem is that they'd be the third Pool C from both the South region (Oglethorpe/DePauw will be one and Howard Payne/McMurry will be the other) and they'd also be the third Pool C from the SCAC.  But, they're going a long way towards making it very tough to leave them at home.  Early projections over on the Pool C board have them in as the 14th Pool C.  Not sure I can disagree with that.

DePauw still 3rd in the Great Lakes behind undefeated Thomas More and Hope.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 20, 2008, 10:18:27 PM
Sewanee Tiger, I too plan to make the Centre games on the mountain this weekend.  I think what makes this game special is both teams really want to win.  I would expect your Tigers to be ready for this game given they'll probably need the win to make the tourney if they can't upset DPU on Friday.  Centre wants this for momentum going into the tournament.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 20, 2008, 11:28:34 PM
Quote from: Wes Anderson on February 20, 2008, 08:52:06 PM
Trinity's still making a strong case.  They have a solid region ranking is good and their OWP and OOWP are exceptional.

Here's the latest region ranking:

1 Howard Payne 23-0 21-0
2 Oglethorpe 20-3 18-3
3 McMurry 20-3 20-2
4 Trinity (Texas) 17-5 16-4
5 Piedmont 20-3 16-3
6 Christopher Newport 18-4 17-3

Problem is that they'd be the third Pool C from both the South region (Oglethorpe/DePauw will be one and Howard Payne/McMurry will be the other) and they'd also be the third Pool C from the SCAC.  But, they're going a long way towards making it very tough to leave them at home.  Early projections over on the Pool C board have them in as the 14th Pool C.  Not sure I can disagree with that.

DePauw still 3rd in the Great Lakes behind undefeated Thomas More and Hope.
Wes, with respect to Trinity, I think that Trinity might just pull it off.

McMurry and Oglethorpe come off the table in very quick fashion.  Trinity has a good record against potentially regionally ranked teams. To wit,

HSU (a 70-51 win) is projected to play HPU in the second round on a neutral floor.

George Fox (a 53-55 loss) is solid at #2 in the West.

Carthage is second in the CCIW.

One other factor for Trinity (using reverse "geographic proximity" logic), Pool C Trinity could come to Abilene (McMurry) on Thursday night, and the winner goes to HPU on Saturday.

(In 2006, HSU was the "last" Pool C bid, and went to the Final Four.)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 20, 2008, 11:45:22 PM
With Oglethorpe sitting at #2 in the Regional rankings and Piedmont/Maryville looking to get the AC from the GSAC what are Oglethorpe's chances of hosting a first round game?  I know we don't have the biggest game but we do have a 20-3 record and have made the tourney the past 2 years.  It sure would be a GREAT reward for these ladies to play a NCAA tournament in front of their home fans.

Any thoughts Ralph or Pat?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 21, 2008, 12:03:24 AM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on February 20, 2008, 11:45:22 PM
With Oglethorpe sitting at #2 in the Regional rankings and Piedmont/Maryville looking to get the AC from the GSAC what are Oglethorpe's chances of hosting a first round game?  I know we don't have the biggest game but we do have a 20-3 record and have made the tourney the past 2 years.  It sure would be a GREAT reward for these ladies to play a NCAA tournament in front of their home fans.

Any thoughts Ralph or Pat?
I think that Oglethorpe needs to be solidly in the "Top 16", and then have three teams around them that are within the 500-mile radius to be bussed into Atlanta.  I think it is better for Methodist to earn the USAC Pool A.

The frightening thing for Oglethorpe is that Atlanta is less than 500 miles away from Crestview Hills, KY.  Oglethorpe could be bussed to Crestview Hills, KY to be on the other side of the bracket in the first round.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 21, 2008, 12:22:07 AM
Wilmington OH is 496 miles by my calculation on msn.mappoint from Atlanta.

That might be another team to bus to Oglethorpe.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 21, 2008, 12:28:21 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 21, 2008, 12:03:24 AM

I think that Oglethorpe needs to be solidly in the "Top 16", and then have three teams around them that are within the 500-mile radius to be bussed into Atlanta.  I think it is better for Methodist to earn the USAC Pool A.

Would there be an consideration to the fact that Oglethorpe beat Methodist twice this year by an average of 29 points?  

Maybe it would be more economical for the NCAA to bus Methodist here along with a short hour and a half bus ride for Piedmont  and throw in some 3rd team...? (I'm not very good with the location of the top schools that have a chance of getting in.)

I have a feeling that the only chance OU would make it to the top 16 would be if they win out... that means beating Depauw twice... I just don't know if that will happen.  Then again if they win out they'll earn the Pool A bid and I think the host spot would take care of itself that way.

You just posted while I was typing mine... OU went to Wilmington last year for the tourney and Wilmington made the return trip this year.  That would be an interesting bracket   OU, Methodist, Piedmont, Wilmington.  I have a feeling that Wilmington (a non top 25 team) would be the favorite to come out of it... since they beat OU earlier this year.  It also seems like it would be one of the weakest brackets in the tournament.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 21, 2008, 08:32:47 AM
Good morning, FotP!

Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on February 21, 2008, 12:28:21 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 21, 2008, 12:03:24 AM

I think that Oglethorpe needs to be solidly in the "Top 16", and then have three teams around them that are within the 500-mile radius to be bussed into Atlanta.  I think it is better for Methodist to earn the USAC Pool A.

Would there be an consideration to the fact that Oglethorpe beat Methodist twice this year by an average of 29 points? 


Maybe it would be more economical for the NCAA to bus Methodist here along with a short hour and a half bus ride for Piedmont  and throw in some 3rd team...? (I'm not very good with the location of the top schools that have a chance of getting in.)

I think that the overwhelming consideration is travel cost.  Of the 63 teams selected, Methodist is lower ranked and doesn't have to be "flown" to Oglethorpe. 

I have a feeling that the only chance OU would make it to the top 16 would be if they win out... that means beating Depauw twice... I just don't know if that will happen.  Then again if they win out they'll earn the Pool A bid and I think the host spot would take care of itself that way.

Yes, I agree about the Pool A slot.  Pool A and you definitely host a first round bracket.  Pool C, and you probably travel.

You just posted while I was typing mine... OU went to Wilmington last year for the tourney and Wilmington made the return trip this year.  That would be an interesting bracket   OU, Methodist, Piedmont, Wilmington.  I have a feeling that Wilmington (a non top 25 team) would be the favorite to come out of it... since they beat OU earlier this year.  It also seems like it would be one of the weakest brackets in the tournament.

IMHO, "weakest bracket" does not matter.  Finding a bracket that the Selction Committee can construct inside the travel budget and within the 500-mile busing radius is the more important factor.  The "weak first round bracket" just becomes the #4 seed in the second round bracket.


Good luck, Petrels!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 21, 2008, 12:13:04 PM
Good Morning as well Ralph,

Thanks for the insight.  Since there is no certainty about hosting a Regional game I'll have to tell my Petrels to just win the SCAC... that should take care of all the confusion.    ;)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 21, 2008, 04:45:35 PM
POTY-  It's been a topic that has received attention on two different occasions on the mens side so I figured with the season winding down... why not throw out some names for consideration.  Without Liz Bondi I dobut there is any clear cut winner this year so it could be an exciting discussion.  My Top 4 in no particular order are:

Katie Kulavic- Oglethorpe
Jenna Fernandez- Depauw
Melanie August- Colorado
Reba Ross- Birmingham Southern (but she's out for the season with an injury)

What is everyone else's take on the subject?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 21, 2008, 05:33:52 PM
if AC had a better record, i'd submit Katy Williams...12 double doubles, 19 ppg, 11 rpg, shooting well over 50% from the field.

unfortunately, her team just isn't winning many games.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scaccommish on February 21, 2008, 09:20:49 PM
Flight,
BSC student-athletes aren't eligible for all-conference on the women's side, since they are still playing with scholarship athletes. One of the considerations given to BSC student-athletes, since they are ineligible for postseason play until 2011-2012, is that as soon as any program is athletic scholarship free, those teams and their student-athletes will be eligible for all-SCAC consideration.

In 2007-08, BSC football, men's basketball and baseball are the only sports where the participants are eligible for all-SCAC honors.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 21, 2008, 09:59:33 PM
Thanks for the clarification  Mr. Hanberry... I knew they wern't elligible for the post season but wasn't sure about the awards.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OUfan22 on February 21, 2008, 10:06:12 PM
to comment on player of the year, is it fair to say it will most likely come from whoever wins the SCAC tourny? obviously katie k is the  obvious choice for OU and certainly deserving even if OU doesnt win out but as far as depauw goes, i think cassie pruzin is more deserving than fernandez...13ppg, 6.6 boards per game (slightly more than fern.), she's got more than respectable percentages on fg, 3pt, and free throw, 4assist pg, and ~2.5steals per game...and fernandez is only avg 1.2ppg more than pruzin without all the other categories which makes her much more well rounded...

auguste has good enough stats and a hell of an athlete but id be very surprised if POTY came from a team with a 11-11 record...

trinity has also got prato-mathews and meghan scholbe with exceptional stat lines (sholbe's a little better in my opinion)

and yes i have to agree, its doubtful katy williams would be considered simply due to her teams performance this year...id be willing to bet POTY to come from OU, depauw, or trinity
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 22, 2008, 12:10:20 AM
Quote from: OUfan22 on February 21, 2008, 10:06:12 PM
is it fair to say it will most likely come from whoever wins the SCAC tourny?

I believe the voting is conducted before the conference final.  So, that factor won't be involved in the selection.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: vozdelospetrels on February 22, 2008, 08:31:36 AM
There are a lot of deserving players for POTY, but my biased opinion has to give it to Kulavic. I would really like to see her get that recognition, not that she already isn't getting plenty. An OU victory over DePauw on Sunday with a great Kulavic performance would put her atop the running in my opinion.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopsfan11 on February 22, 2008, 03:12:34 PM
I would think that Anna Findley from OU would have to be considered for defensive player of the year considering she is so far ahead in steals.  Though, I'm not sure she is even the best defensive player on OU's team, not to take anything away from Findley.  Brooks and Corbett (along with Findley) seem to anchor that defense without showing up in the stat sheets.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: spfan22 on February 22, 2008, 03:58:42 PM
I would agree that Brooks and Corbett are the best defensive players on OU's team.. Brooks usually guards the opponents best post player.. while Corbett gets the opponents best offensive player or sometimes she will guard the point guard just to force tempo and pressure the point guard..  Corbett is the one who really makes OU's defense go.. she doesnt accumulate all the steals.. but she gets tons of deflections and forces many bad passes which enables her teammates to rack up defensive stats..
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: petrel23 on February 22, 2008, 05:12:52 PM
Come on.. somebody stick their neck out there and make a prediction! I vote Kulavic
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 22, 2008, 05:58:36 PM
Quote from: petrel23 on February 22, 2008, 05:12:52 PM
Come on.. somebody stick their neck out there and make a prediction! I vote Kulavic

I'd give it to Kulavic. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 22, 2008, 08:30:31 PM
3:06 left for AC and Trinity...right now Trinity leads 62-54.  They are absolutely dominating on the offensive glass right now, which is exactly why they've extended what had been a close game.  AC just hit a three to get it back to single digits, TU called the timeout.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 22, 2008, 08:33:57 PM
1:45 left in Sherman, back to a 10 point game...64-54.  You guessed it, another offensive board and free throws for the Tigers...
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 22, 2008, 09:03:10 PM
66-56 final in Sherman.  Prato Matthews had 20 and 10 to lead the Tigers, who hit 24-of-29 from the free throw line and had 14 offensive boards in the second half to overcome 31% shooting.  Katy Williams had 23 points and 12 boards for Austin College for her 12th double double of the year and 6th straight.  She needs 14 boards to reach 500.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 22, 2008, 10:49:03 PM
Oglethorpe played the 2nd half tonight like they meant business after sporting the Centre Lady Colonels a 39-31 halftime lead tonight.  Guess in the first half they were thinking of DPU this weekend; I have to wonder what the coach said to them in the locker room at halftime.  Don't think they'll slack off going into the DePauw contest now.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: spfan22 on February 23, 2008, 12:14:18 AM
OU missed alot of defensive assignments in the first half.. thats why centre hit 6 or 7 threes in the first half.. they werent switching screens when they should have and they were going under ballscreens and allowing shooters to get open looks.. knowing that centre relies heavily on the 3.. you just cant let them get open looks.. Centre played so much more physical than OU in the first half.. it seemed as if they OU girls were a little sluggish and flustered..

the second half was a thing of beauty for OU.. they broke the lead open to about 16 or 17 early in the second half.. if they are going to beat Depauw on Sunday they need to put 2 full halfs together.. should be a great game on Sunday.. really looking forward to the game

Dont really think the OU girls were looking ahead to Sunday.. but it seemed more as if the long season is starting to take a toll on the OU team that only plays 7 or 8 players
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: vozdelospetrels on February 23, 2008, 09:26:19 AM
Oglethorpe and DePauw tomorrow at noon! I'm gonna give this one to the Lady Petrels, I've just got a feeling about the Petrels after seeing how they played the second half last night. Listen Live to the game tomorrow, as both DePauw and OU will have webcasts. I urge you to listen to the OU webcast though if you're an OU fan. Anyone else want to make any predictions on OU DePauw game?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 23, 2008, 09:37:05 AM
Quote from: vozdelospetrels on February 23, 2008, 09:26:19 AM
Oglethorpe and DePauw tomorrow at noon! I'm gonna give this one to the Lady Petrels...

Anyone else want to make any predictions on OU DePauw game?
Why are we not surprised?    :D  :D  :D  That is not a "man bites dog" proclamation.

I am not sure where Oglethorpe and McMurry fit into the calculations for Pool C, if both don't run the table.

I think that "geographic proximity" trumps both, in respect to the bracketing for the NCAA's.  DePauw will go into some bracket in the Midwest.  An Oglethorpe loss benefits Piedmont more than anyone.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: vozdelospetrels on February 23, 2008, 10:10:58 AM
I guess I didn't expect too many people to be surprised by my prediction, so I'll put a pt margin on it. OU by 11
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 23, 2008, 10:32:55 AM
It's amazing to me that the Lady Petrels can be competitive with DePauw with such a short bench. I know it's going to be a frenzied, home game atmosphere for OU, but DePauw can come at you with so many players without much drop-off in play. I've only seen bits of both teams in one game each this year so this is a bit of stretch - I'll say the Tiger Women win by 7.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 23, 2008, 04:14:31 PM
You know, I'm just operating on a few hunches here.  In fact, I'll be kind enough to share them. 

My first hunch is that Coach Kris Huffman reads a lot of this stuff.  I know her staff does.  Let's say I've been pulled aside by a student coach or two in my day due to a bit of criticism that may not have been due to the team.  Let's say decorum wasn't always my #1 priority as a younger lad.  My second hunch is that she finds a way to use a great deal of it as an excellent motivator for her team.  My third hunch is that she was very happy when a Petrel guard showed up here and told the world exactly why it was that Oglethorpe lost that game in Greencastle.  My fourth hunch is that those statements, along with some other Oglethorpe commentary, were brought up in today's shootaround.  DePauw will me be mad tomorrow.  Question is whether or not that's good enough for a win.  I don't have a "Kris Huffman record when there's bulletin board material" stat for you.  I'm sorry.  If I were to guess, it's a very high win percentage.  You won't like them when they're angry.  She's such a great motivator for her team, and they're not going to be in a very good mood at high noon in the Dorough Fieldhouse tomorrow. 

It's going to be physical tomorrow.  It always is when these two teams play each other, particularly in the ATL.  I get the feeling that they don't like each other one darned bit.  But, again, Depauw has the size, strength, and depth in the post to play physical.  It's going to be close.  Call it a fifth hunch that those upstanding striped-shirt fellows don't let Kulavic foul out, either.  Last year was different than past trips because DePauw shot the ball so poorly.  If they can put the orange round thing in the other orange thing, they'll have a great shot at it.  Seems simple enough.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: spfan22 on February 23, 2008, 05:31:35 PM
Wes:  Im not sure what statements that you are referring to when talking about some of the OU commentary..in which some comments might not be justified.. but most fans are biased toward their own team I dont find it uncommon that OU fans would predict a win against Depauw.. just like I wouldnt find it odd if depauw fans picked Depauw in this game.. thats how fans are.. also.. if fans say things about the officiating at away games.. that doesnt seem uncommon to me either..

if i remember correctly the free throw shooting was one-sided and Coach Satelle got a tech.. me being a fan who didnt see the game obviously im probably going to think it was a poorly officiated game.. thats human instinct for alot of people to think that way..I probably regret that i ever said that.. but at that point i wasnt very happy about how the game changed so quickly.. u can cut me some slack right  ;)

regardless of what your saying if Coach Huffman uses some statments as bulletin board material.. I can reassure you that Depauw has every bit of OU's respect.. you can trust me on that one.. I can also reassure you of this.. OU is going to have to play their best game if they want to win on Sunday..   Andrew Tulowitzky, OU class of 2007
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OUfan22 on February 23, 2008, 06:32:22 PM
first off, the opinions of one player may have nothing to do with the opions of the team...secondly, i want to make it clear that i look foward to game day against depauw because of the competition, and because i respect them as a good team...ive been playing them for years and as far as good sportsmanship and hard work, i have no reason to "dislike" them...

as far as kulavic fouling out, she's only done so twice on the year so her not fouling out tomorrow is no indication of the refs "not letting" her foul out...its been rare if we've ever experienced home cooking...if anything, the refs here may allow a more physical game but its on both ends...

and for the game in greencastle, did I ever say the sole reason OU lost to depauw was free throws and bad referring? if it seemed so, then my bad for poor articulation...my point was that it would have been extremely difficult for any team to win against a good team under those kind of circumstances

anyways, it should be a great game tomorrow...depauw's a little deeper, a little bigger, but OU has a lot of intangibles going for them, they're shooting at home, and if they play to their potential, we should get the W...

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 23, 2008, 06:33:07 PM
Quote from: Wes Anderson on February 23, 2008, 04:14:31 PM
I get the feeling that they don't like each other one darned bit. 

I think you're right on with that prediction right there.

Quote from: Wes Anderson on February 23, 2008, 04:14:31 PM
You won't like them when they're angry. 

Funny thing... people say the same about me, and I'll be at the game tomorrow.  Should be an interesting combination.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: spfan22 on February 23, 2008, 07:00:41 PM
HAHA!!!


Flight:  ur an idiot.. i still love you though
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 23, 2008, 08:28:53 PM
Quote from: spfan22 on February 23, 2008, 05:31:35 PM
Wes:  Im not sure what statements that you are referring to when talking about some of the OU commentary..in which some comments might not be justified.. but most fans are biased toward their own team I dont find it uncommon that OU fans would predict a win against Depauw.. just like I wouldnt find it odd if depauw fans picked Depauw in this game..

That was not what I was referring to, for the record.  I read more than a couple times in various places that the reason Oglethorpe lost in Greencastle was because of officiating.  That's also entirely different than saying that the game was poorly officiated. 

I can live with those things, but when it's said that the game goes the other direction due directly to the officials and in no way due to the play of the opposing team, that's where things start getting hairy for me.  And that's what was said, which is what I was referring to.  Oglethorpe alums/players/broadcasters picking the Petrels isn't really a shock to me.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 24, 2008, 12:16:49 AM
Worth noting for anyone playing the officiating card that Oglethorpe enjoyed a 25-4 advantage at the line in a home win over BSC - as well as 33-8 and 28-11 edges at home against Southwestern and Trinity, respectively.     
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 24, 2008, 09:35:30 AM
Those of us traveling with our respective favorite teams today would love to get occasional posts from anyone attending the DePauw-Oglethorpe game. The Blackberry can be a wonderful little thing!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPULefty22 on February 24, 2008, 10:50:18 AM
I'll do what I can for ya, pbrooks. Should be an entertaining game, and I've got a hunch it's going to be quite a physical one too. It doesn't have the significance as far as SCAC Tourney seeding that the men's matchup does, but it doesn't need it.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 24, 2008, 11:09:22 AM
Big game today in Sherman...it's winner take all between AC and Southwestern.  Plus, Katy Williams only needs 14 boards to reach 500, which I have to think would make her if not THE fastest, then one of the quickest in conference history to reach that number.

If she were to get 31 points and 14 boards today, she'd end her sophomore year with 800 and 500, respectively, for her career so far.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 24, 2008, 11:29:19 AM
Quote from: jekelish on February 24, 2008, 11:09:22 AM
Plus, Katy Williams only needs 14 boards to reach 500, which I have to think would make her if not THE fastest, then one of the quickest in conference history to reach that number.


Rebekah Forsyth played for Rose-Hulman a few years back before they left the SCAC and she put up monster numbers in only 3 years... note she left the conference as the leading rebounder in history!

266 reb.   399 pts.  Fresh
306 reb.   451 pts.  Soph
572 reb.     850 pts.   similar number to Williams


263 reb.   492 pts.   Junior

Career Totals- 1,342 points     835 rebounds-  not to shabby in only 3 years...

if you added her numbers from her senior year at Rose she had well over 1,000 rebounds but would not have left the SCAC as the leading scorer... something I thought she would have been sure to get.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPULefty22 on February 24, 2008, 12:23:10 PM
26-15 OU, 9:16 first half. OU has girls who haven't played all season hitting threes. DPU's hoop had a lid on it the first five minutes. Lot of game left.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPULefty22 on February 24, 2008, 12:39:00 PM
OU 35, DPU 32 at the half. 12-3 run by DPU to close the half.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 24, 2008, 12:56:06 PM
Ominous start here in Sherman...one of the refs is sick, bumping back gametime until about 12:35 central...
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPULefty22 on February 24, 2008, 01:04:32 PM
46-38, DPU, 15:09 2nd half. DPU on a 26-6 run.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPULefty22 on February 24, 2008, 01:13:05 PM
DPU 51-46, 10:10 left.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPULefty22 on February 24, 2008, 01:20:52 PM
DPU 59-53, 6:32 left.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 24, 2008, 01:23:02 PM
This has been a great game to listen to. Compliments to WGRE, though I should've been playing a drinking game on use of the word "pardner." :)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 24, 2008, 01:27:23 PM
OK, that and the use of boo-yeah, as if Stuart Scott is still somehow cool ... :)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPULefty22 on February 24, 2008, 01:34:47 PM
DPU 72-71 58.7 sec
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPULefty22 on February 24, 2008, 01:36:32 PM
DPU 74-73 36 sec.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPULefty22 on February 24, 2008, 01:40:48 PM
DPU 76-73 6.4 sec.

Hi Pat! Glad you're enjoying the broadcast.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPULefty22 on February 24, 2008, 01:43:00 PM
Kulavic three misses at the horn. Tigers win!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 24, 2008, 01:45:47 PM
Quote from: DPULefty22 on February 24, 2008, 01:43:00 PM
Kulavic three misses at the horn. Tigers win!
Sure did like the game, pardner!  ;)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 24, 2008, 01:54:32 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 24, 2008, 01:27:23 PM
OK, that and the use of boo-yeah, as if Stuart Scott is still somehow cool ... :)

I blame me partially for that.  I still call everybody partner.  I guess it stuck.   :D 

Plenty happy to get out of that building with a win.  That much I do know.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPULefty22 on February 24, 2008, 01:57:21 PM
Quote from: Wes Anderson on February 24, 2008, 01:54:32 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 24, 2008, 01:27:23 PM
OK, that and the use of boo-yeah, as if Stuart Scott is still somehow cool ... :)

I blame me partially for that.  I still call everybody partner.  I guess it stuck.   :D 

Plenty happy to get out of that building with a win.  That much I do know.

I can confirm that the use of 'pardner' is in fact ENTIRELY your fault.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 24, 2008, 02:18:38 PM
Tied at 15-15 with 7:19 in the 1st half at Sewanee.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 24, 2008, 02:33:44 PM
29-27 Austin College leads Southwestern, 15:09 left in the second half...

Katy Williams went over 500 rebounds for her career, she's got 15 in this game so far...
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 24, 2008, 02:41:46 PM
Suddenly it's 42-29 Austin College over Southwestern...10:59 left...
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 24, 2008, 02:45:33 PM
25-24 Centre at halftime.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 24, 2008, 02:48:51 PM
52-34 Austin College leads...7:33 left...
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 24, 2008, 02:52:55 PM
52-37, AC leads with 5:57 left...right now Williams is up to 21 rebounds...
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 24, 2008, 03:17:26 PM
Sewanee Girls lead 50-38 with 3:19 to play.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 24, 2008, 03:17:31 PM
AC takes the victory and (if I'm not mistaken) the final spot in the SCAC Tourney with a 58-45 win over Southwestern.  Katy Williams pulled down a career best 23 boards as the 'Roos outboarded the Pirates 56-29 in the game, and Maegan Fitzgerald scored 20 to lead all scorers.  No players for the Pirates reached double digits.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 24, 2008, 03:23:50 PM
Sewanee leads 52-40 with 45 seconds to play.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 24, 2008, 03:29:30 PM
Well, scratch that...just discovered that because Hendrix lost, AC/SU/HC are in a three way tie, and that means AC is the odd team out in this case.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 24, 2008, 03:40:58 PM
Final from the mountain - Sewanee locks up the 4th seed with a solid 56-42 effort accented by good defense in the final 8-9 minutes. Acacia Mack did a nice job running the point and milking possessions before dishing to teammates for baskets in the late going.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OUfan22 on February 24, 2008, 04:54:03 PM
great game today in Atlanta by both teams...in the end, depauw took better care of the ball which is shown in the TOs and steals sections of the stats...hopefully these 2 teams will get to meet up one more time next week...
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scaccommish on February 24, 2008, 08:21:32 PM
SCAC Women's Tournament bracket is set:

http://www.scac-online.org/basketball_womens/2008wbasketballbracket.pdf (http://www.scac-online.org/basketball_womens/2008wbasketballbracket.pdf)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: sewanee tiger on February 24, 2008, 11:37:36 PM
Quote from: pbrooks3 on February 24, 2008, 03:40:58 PM
Final from the mountain - Sewanee locks up the 4th seed with a solid 56-42 effort accented by good defense in the final 8-9 minutes. Acacia Mack did a nice job running the point and milking possessions before dishing to teammates for baskets in the late going.

pbrooks,
Really good effort by both teams today. Our defense did step up in the second half, but the fatigue factor for Centre probably helped us out a good bit in those last ten minutes. As we all know, the Sunday games can often be tough for the road teams, especially in this case when Centre played so hard against OU on Friday night.

I'm elated that we at least made the tourney next weekend, but I do share your sentiment about Ashley Farrell not getting to play anymore. She was a special player, who had some really big games against us (as well as the rest of the league).

     



Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: spfan22 on February 25, 2008, 02:03:58 PM
Heck of a game in Atlanta yesterday... both teams fought and scrapped for the entire 40 minutes.. difference in the game was the OFFICIALS.. haha only kidding...  :)   the real difference in the game was OU's turnovers and the fact that Pruzin went nuts in the second half.. Corbett was hanging all over her and she just made one ridiculous shot after another.. No offense to OU's Kulavic.. who is a good friend of mine.. but based on how coaches usually vote.. i would think Pruzin gets POY after what shes done all year and the performance she had yesterday..

also.. OU's inability to finish the first half with a strong run may have cost them.. up 12 with about 3 minutes left and let the lead diminish to 3 points at halftime..

Depauw gets the credit.. they limited their turnovers and made the plays down the stretch.. wanted to add that #21 for Depauw will be a heck of a player

Hope both these teams make it to the Conf finals.. I would love to see a rematch between OU and Depauw.. OU must not look ahead though
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 26, 2008, 10:00:37 AM
Quote from: sewanee tiger on February 24, 2008, 11:37:36 PM
Quote from: pbrooks3 on February 24, 2008, 03:40:58 PM
Final from the mountain - Sewanee locks up the 4th seed with a solid 56-42 effort accented by good defense in the final 8-9 minutes. Acacia Mack did a nice job running the point and milking possessions before dishing to teammates for baskets in the late going.

pbrooks,
Really good effort by both teams today. Our defense did step up in the second half, but the fatigue factor for Centre probably helped us out a good bit in those last ten minutes. As we all know, the Sunday games can often be tough for the road teams, especially in this case when Centre played so hard against OU on Friday night.

I'm elated that we at least made the tourney next weekend, but I do share your sentiment about Ashley Farrell not getting to play anymore. She was a special player, who had some really big games against us (as well as the rest of the league).

Agreed our Centre Lady Colonels probably were running on fumes.  Thought that if they'd been able to get one basket in that critical stretch when your Lady Tigers took control, the game might have stayed close and our girls potentially could have pulled it out at the end.  But Sewanee played tough defense when they needed, and they're to be commended for a good victory and a move on to Conway for the SCAC tourney.     




Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scaccommish on February 26, 2008, 01:12:30 PM
SCAC Hoops Weekly - Tournament Edition

http://www.scac-online.org/basketball_womens/022508wbasketballreport.pdf (http://www.scac-online.org/basketball_womens/022508wbasketballreport.pdf)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 27, 2008, 02:38:10 PM
Here's your latest region rankings:

South:
1.  Howard Payne  23-0  25-0
2.  Oglethorpe  19-4  21-4
3.  McMurry  22-2  22-3 
4.  Trinity (Tex.)  18-4  19-5
5.  Piedmont  18-3  22-3
6.  Hardin-Simmons  20-5  20-5

I guarantee you the Hope fans are hot under the collar this afternoon. Not a surprise, since I don't think they've stopped being that way since they made their trip to the Neal Fieldhouse two years ago.  Why, you ask?

Great Lakes:
1.  Thomas More  20-0  25-0
2.  DePauw  19-1  22-3
3.  Hope  22-0  24-0 
4.  Baldwin-Wallace  23-2  23-2
5.  Wilmington (Ohio)  17-6  19-6
6.  Ohio Northern  18-6  19-6

DePauw passed them despite having that region loss to Thomas More.  Hope's also undefeated this year.  I'm sure you're looking for reasoning.  Well, you're in luck.  I've got it.  The Dutch have played the 240th toughest schedule in the country this year.  DePauw has played the 31st.  DePauw also has a very good OOWP to go along with it.  The one region loss for DePauw is to a great basketball team.  And DePauw has a bunch of really nice wins.  Hope's best win is 21-4 Albion twice.  Then it's 19-6 ONU.  Neither of those teams were ranked when they played them.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 27, 2008, 03:29:41 PM
It looks like the SCAC has a legitimate chance of getting 3 teams into the Tournament...

Was Depauw's lone loss to Birmingham Southern?  If that's the case DPU just played them at the wrong time... a week later and Ross would have been injured and another 25 point win would have followed... they could and should have finished undefeated.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 27, 2008, 03:38:57 PM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on February 27, 2008, 03:29:41 PM
Was Depauw's lone loss to Birmingham Southern?  If that's the case DPU just played them at the wrong time... a week later and Ross would have been injured and another 25 point win would have followed... they could and should have finished undefeated.

No, sir.  They don't count in region rankings since they aren't eligible.  The reigon loss was a 65-59 loss @ Thomas More the second week of the season.  The Saints are now the 3rd ranked team in the country.  The other overall losses are against #5 Messiah in Cancun and BSC, as you mentioned.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPULefty22 on February 27, 2008, 06:03:16 PM
Just thought I'd let you folks know that WGRE is, for the fourth year running, going to be broadcasting all the SCAC tournament action via their website (WGRE.org) and Free Teamline. WGRE's audio will also be part of the Southwestern University video stream.

WGRE's SCAC Tournament page can be found here: http://www.depauw.edu/univ/wgre/sports_pages/scac2008.asp (http://www.depauw.edu/univ/wgre/sports_pages/scac2008.asp)

A preview of the women's tournament, with predictions, has been posted as well.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 27, 2008, 07:43:09 PM
Quote from: Wes Anderson on February 27, 2008, 03:38:57 PM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on February 27, 2008, 03:29:41 PM
Was Depauw's lone loss to Birmingham Southern?  If that's the case DPU just played them at the wrong time... a week later and Ross would have been injured and another 25 point win would have followed... they could and should have finished undefeated.

No, sir.  They don't count in region rankings since they aren't eligible.  The reigon loss was a 65-59 loss @ Thomas More the second week of the season.  The Saints are now the 3rd ranked team in the country.  The other overall losses are against #5 Messiah in Cancun and BSC, as you mentioned.

I see... I'm not familiar with the schools and where they're located up there.  None the less great seasons put together by the reigning national champions.  I'm looking forward to the tournament, should be some great games.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 27, 2008, 09:10:30 PM
Thomas More is just south of Cincy, for future reference.  Well within the 400 miles.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 29, 2008, 11:41:45 AM
Today's projections at the SCAC tournament:

Centre pulls an upset by 4 over Colorado College.  DePauw and Oglethorpe win along with Trinity.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 29, 2008, 02:44:11 PM
Quote from: pbrooks3 on February 29, 2008, 11:41:45 AM
Today's projections at the SCAC tournament:

Centre pulls an upset by 4 over Colorado College.  DePauw and Oglethorpe win along with Trinity.

Well on your way to 1-0, my friend.  DePauw's got it on cruise control.  They're doubling up Southwestern at the half 35-16.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 29, 2008, 03:59:14 PM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on February 27, 2008, 07:43:09 PM
Quote from: Wes Anderson on February 27, 2008, 03:38:57 PM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on February 27, 2008, 03:29:41 PM
Was Depauw's lone loss to Birmingham Southern?  If that's the case DPU just played them at the wrong time... a week later and Ross would have been injured and another 25 point win would have followed... they could and should have finished undefeated.

No, sir.  They don't count in region rankings since they aren't eligible.  The reigon loss was a 65-59 loss @ Thomas More the second week of the season.  The Saints are now the 3rd ranked team in the country.  The other overall losses are against #5 Messiah in Cancun and BSC, as you mentioned.

I see... I'm not familiar with the schools and where they're located up there.  None the less great seasons put together by the reigning national champions.  I'm looking forward to the tournament, should be some great games.

You could try using our Web site -- we have schedules and results for everyone. :)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 29, 2008, 04:17:02 PM
DePauw 80
Southwestern 50 F
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 29, 2008, 04:58:01 PM
Centre is the aggressor during the 1st 20 minutes - they're up 28-24 on Colorado College.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 29, 2008, 05:44:39 PM
OT 56-56 Centre/Colorado College
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 29, 2008, 05:55:30 PM
Colorado College wins in OT 66-62
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: vozdelospetrels on March 01, 2008, 09:59:55 AM
Talk about an exciting first round matchup as OU struggles to pull out the victory over Hendrix. I'm glad we got the live video feed to watch that one. Hopefully the petrels can stay out of foul trouble today against Trinity. The OU - Hendrix game was just sloppy though, both teams accumulating 30+ TO's. Anybody have any thoughts on Today's Semi-Final action? I see DePauw rolling over CC by 18, and OU will squeak by Trinity by 6 to set up round 3 of DePauw vs OU this season.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 01, 2008, 03:02:53 PM
Looks like the Petrels dodged the proverbial bullet!
Title: Thanks 4 updates
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 01, 2008, 07:21:58 PM
Would somone pls post some occasional score updates tonite?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scaccommish on March 01, 2008, 07:36:12 PM
Ron,
If you can access the SCAC women's basketbal scoreboard, we are tied into Prestosports Live stats and the scoreboard updates (with a manual refresh) after every made basket.

http://www.scac-online.org/basketball_womens/scoreboard.shtml (http://www.scac-online.org/basketball_womens/scoreboard.shtml)
Title: Thanks 4 updates
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 01, 2008, 08:00:25 PM
Xcept i'm on a cell :-)
Title: Re: Thanks 4 updates
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 01, 2008, 08:30:40 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on March 01, 2008, 08:00:25 PM
Xcept i'm on a cell :-)
I got your back!   ;)
Title: Re: Thanks 4 updates
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 01, 2008, 08:32:55 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 01, 2008, 08:30:40 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on March 01, 2008, 08:00:25 PM
Xcept i'm on a cell :-)
I got your back!   ;)
OU 15, TU 6.

OU 24, TU 11 8:45 left in the half.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on March 01, 2008, 08:34:07 PM
What's the final score of DPU-Colorado College?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 01, 2008, 08:53:35 PM
OU 32, TU 17 5:51 left.
OU 40, TU 27 at the half.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 01, 2008, 09:32:40 PM
OU 50, TU 45  13:04.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Rufio on March 01, 2008, 09:34:16 PM
Can anyone tell me why WGRE isnt broadcasting the OU/Trinity Game?

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 01, 2008, 09:45:58 PM
Quote from: Rufio on March 01, 2008, 09:34:16 PM
Can anyone tell me why WGRE isnt broadcasting the OU/Trinity Game?
I don't know.

OU 64 TU 51 7:25 left


OU 65, TU 61 Megan D'Errico at the FT line for two and misses both.  3:40 left.


OU 70 TU 67, with Hubenak at the line.  0:27 left. Hubenak at the line. Good 70-68.


Final OU wins 73-70.  TU's Rachel Snyder misses a jumper at the buzzer.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: spfan22 on March 01, 2008, 10:45:02 PM
congrats to all of the award winners.. especially katie kulavic for POY...

anybody have any idea why Coach Sattele from OU wouldn't get one vote for coach of the year.. i believe 5 or 6 coaches received votes.. kind of weird to me.. unless people think they are more talented.. any thoughts
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Lou_Brown on March 01, 2008, 11:01:02 PM
It is a damn shame that he doesn't get ONE vote?????? They were 21-4!! I think other coaches don't like him, they feel he runs the score up, when instead they just keep playing their style of basketball. Also, I think the SCAC schools in general look down upon Oglethorpe as a whole. No matter, he'll return for the third straight year to the NCAA's, what will the coaches think when OU beats DePauw for the 'Ship?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 01, 2008, 11:06:09 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 01, 2008, 09:45:58 PM
Quote from: Rufio on March 01, 2008, 09:34:16 PM
Can anyone tell me why WGRE isnt broadcasting the OU/Trinity Game?
I don't know.

OU 64 TU 51 7:25 left


OU 65, TU 61 Megan D'Errico at the FT line for two and misses both.  3:40 left.


OU 70 TU 67, with Hubenak at the line.  0:27 left. Hubenak at the line. Good 70-68.


Final OU wins 73-70.  TU's Rachel Snyder misses a jumper at the buzzer.

Thanks Ralph!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 01, 2008, 11:08:17 PM
Quote from: Lou_Brown on March 01, 2008, 11:01:02 PM
It is a damn shame that he doesn't get ONE vote?????? They were 21-4!! I think other coaches don't like him, they feel he runs the score up, when instead they just keep playing their style of basketball. Also, I think the SCAC schools in general look down upon Oglethorpe as a whole. No matter, he'll return for the third straight year to the NCAA's, what will the coaches think when OU beats DePauw for the 'Ship?
The Thomas More coach will send him Steaks! :)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopsfan11 on March 01, 2008, 11:17:38 PM
I have felt for 3 years now that Sattele has deserved to receive some kind of recognition for turning Oglethorpe around.  He took a sub-500 team and turned the program into what should be 3 straight NCAA tournament appearances, and he has not been mentioned as a potential coach of the year candidate.  Don't get me wrong, I understand that what Kris Huffman does at DePauw year-in and year-out is outstanding, but something should be said for being able to turn a program around in the fashion that Sattele did, whether you like the man or not.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPULefty22 on March 02, 2008, 01:16:59 AM
Quote from: Rufio on March 01, 2008, 09:34:16 PM
Can anyone tell me why WGRE isnt broadcasting the OU/Trinity Game?

That would be news to us. We'll check on it and make sure we're a go for the championship games on Sunday. Apologies to any folks who were unable to hear the game.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPULefty22 on March 02, 2008, 01:24:40 AM
In re: postseason awards. You know why Sattele didn't win Coach of the Year this year? His team didn't go undefeated in the freaking conference. Kris Huffman's team did. It's probably that simple.

Then again, I don't claim to know the minds of the voters, which is why the POTY selection confuses me to no end. No disrespect to Kulavic, who is quite a player. I just like my Players of the Year to average fewer than FIVE TURNOVERS per game. I'm sorry - that 131 in the turnover category just sticks out like a sore thumb to me. There's nothing more harmful you can do to your team than end a possession by giving the ball to the other team, and Kulavic does that more than all but one player in the entire conference.

If nothing else, it should ensure that a certain #13 and a certain #31 on the defending national champs should be properly motivated tomorrow afternoon.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on March 02, 2008, 05:40:49 AM
Quote from: DPULefty22 on March 02, 2008, 01:24:40 AM
Then again, I don't claim to know the minds of the voters, which is why the POTY selection confuses me to no end. No disrespect to Kulavic, who is quite a player. I just like my Players of the Year to average fewer than FIVE TURNOVERS per game.

I've got to think that made the difference on the men's side, partner.  I know a certain men's player who turned it over 168 times (!) and didn't get the award.

I didn't even know she averaged that many turnovers.  Surprised it wasn't brought up and argued about several times over here like it was on the men's board. 

Looking forward to a good one this afternoon!  Always tough to beat a great basketball team three times in one season.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on March 02, 2008, 08:24:51 AM
Quote from: DPULefty22 on March 02, 2008, 01:24:40 AM
In re: postseason awards. You know why Sattele didn't win Coach of the Year this year? His team didn't go undefeated in the freaking conference. Kris Huffman's team did. It's probably that simple.

Also, in fairness partner, I don't read any of the comments on the voting as saying that Coach Ron was the leader in the clubhouse to win the award. 

You're right that Satelle didn't do what Huffman did this year.  That being said, Deb Hunter, Wendie Austin-Robinson, Kelly Mahlum, Dickie McCarthy or Amie Bradley didn't do it either.  And they got a vote. 

The coach of 7-18 Austin got a vote, but the coach of 23-4 Oglethorpe did not.  As did the coach of 7-16 Centre.  And 9-17 Sewanee.  And 13-13 Colorado.  Does seem a little fishy to me, honestly.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopsfan11 on March 02, 2008, 09:02:34 AM
Yeah, you're right.  He didn't do what Kris Huffman did this year, and he probably didn't deserve to win COTY this year.  I think the point everyone is making is that he did deserve to receive votes if the coaches of 4 other teams that didn't do what he did received  votes.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPULefty22 on March 02, 2008, 11:04:59 AM
Quote from: Wes Anderson on March 02, 2008, 05:40:49 AM
Quote from: DPULefty22 on March 02, 2008, 01:24:40 AM
Then again, I don't claim to know the minds of the voters, which is why the POTY selection confuses me to no end. No disrespect to Kulavic, who is quite a player. I just like my Players of the Year to average fewer than FIVE TURNOVERS per game.

I've got to think that made the difference on the men's side, partner.  I know a certain men's player who turned it over 168 times (!) and didn't get the award.

I didn't even know she averaged that many turnovers.  Surprised it wasn't brought up and argued about several times over here like it was on the men's board. 

Looking forward to a good one this afternoon!  Always tough to beat a great basketball team three times in one season.

If you're talking about who I think you're talking about, Wes, you might want to check again, because 168 was the number in that player's assist column this year. 86 was the number in the TO column.

And as far as Sattele not getting a vote for Coach of the Year... I had not noticed that was the case. That's a shame.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: spfan22 on March 02, 2008, 11:57:06 AM
lets make this clear:  I definitely was not stating that Coach Huffman should not have received Coach of the Year.. I was just questioning why he didnt get one vote and 5 or 6 other coaches received votes.. 

Wes: I appreciate you clearing that up that I was never questioning why Coach Huffman received COY.. im not here to cause a big ordeal and im glad that you realize that..

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPULefty22 on March 02, 2008, 12:54:17 PM
Quote from: spfan22 on March 02, 2008, 11:57:06 AM
lets make this clear:  I definitely was not stating that Coach Huffman should not have received Coach of the Year.. I was just questioning why he didnt get one vote and 5 or 6 other coaches received votes.. 

Wes: I appreciate you clearing that up that I was never questioning why Coach Huffman received COY.. im not here to cause a big ordeal and im glad that you realize that..

My apologies, sir. I misinterpreted what you all were talking about initially. That's entirely on me.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on March 02, 2008, 02:41:15 PM
Quote from: DPULefty22 on March 02, 2008, 11:04:59 AM
Quote from: Wes Anderson on March 02, 2008, 05:40:49 AM
I've got to think that made the difference on the men's side, partner.  I know a certain men's player who turned it over 168 times (!) and didn't get the award.
If you're talking about who I think you're talking about, Wes, you might want to check again, because 168 was the number in that player's assist column this year. 86 was the number in the TO column.

Whoopsey.   :-[  Hey, I posted that at 5:40 in the morning.  Cut me some slack.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopsfan11 on March 02, 2008, 05:14:02 PM
Congrats to DePauw - SCAC champs. 
Sounds like it was a great game again.

And congrats to all of the all-tournament performers. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on March 02, 2008, 05:37:01 PM
72-69 the final.  Unsurprisingly, it was another close one between these two. 

Gretchen Haehl led the way for the Old Gold with 17 and 10 boards.  Emily Marshall with 14 and 12.  Jenna Fernandez with 10 and 8. 

Kulavic had a nice day.  22 to lead all scorers.  Anna Findley with 20.  Tina Grace with 14.

Came down to rebounding and turnovers today, folks.  OU outshot DPU from everywhere on the floor, but DPU was +8 on the boards and +7 on the TO's.  Points off turnovers was 21-10.  DPU only shot 39%, but they pulled down 20 (!!) offensive rebounds. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on March 02, 2008, 07:14:59 PM
Good win for DePauw.  Actually I was surprised the score was this close, though a 3rd win over a strong opponent in a single year is impressive.  Well, can this team repeat last year's record breaking year?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on March 02, 2008, 09:43:28 PM
Congratulations to DePauw, Oglethorpe and Trinity for their D3 bids tonight.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 02, 2008, 11:06:03 PM
Go Stormy Petrels!!!  ya'll left it all out on the court today and I couldn't be more proud of you ladies.  I know you'll do well in the tournament and I hope I can make it out to see at least one of your games.

Good luck to Depauw and Trinity... represent the SCAC well, we're all pulling for eachother now.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: spfan22 on March 03, 2008, 10:34:31 AM
Womens Tourney set: 

Depauw hosts Denison.. i would suspect a win there for Depauw.. that may set up a Depauw/Wilmington match up in the second round.. bet that would be a good game to see

Trinity travels to Mcmurry in which should be a pretty good game.. 3 of the 4 losses for Mcmurry came at the hands of powerhouse Howard Payne so I would suspect that they are a very good team

OU travels to KY to play in-state rival Piedmont.. rematch of an early season game in which OU won by 19.. OU has played well against Piedmont the last few years.. I hope this game won't be any different.. although I would suspect a much closer game.. a win would set up a game at host Thomas More on Sat..

Good luck to all SCAC teams.. hopefully OU can grab their first NCAA tourney victory
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 03, 2008, 11:02:00 AM
Just a thought... since the NCAA is fairly concerned over money... Would it be reasonable for Oglethorpe and Piedmont to play in Georgia then bus the winner to KY.  Since these two schools are so close it would save on the cost of an extra bus.  I assume this could be done with other schools that are in the tournament as well...

Quote from: Wes Anderson on February 27, 2008, 09:10:30 PM
Thomas More is just south of Cincy, for future reference.  Well within the 400 miles.

Future reference came sooner than expected... I may be making the trip.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: spfan22 on March 03, 2008, 11:39:23 AM
So Flight:  which game should I plan on coimng to?? no way I can make both.. but I dont know if I want to risk missing the Friday game because they have to win Friday before they can play on Saturday..

any suggestions?? are u gonna make both games or just one of them?? maybe we can carpool up if you are going to just one game??
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on March 03, 2008, 11:59:38 AM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on March 03, 2008, 11:02:00 AM
Just a thought... since the NCAA is fairly concerned over money... Would it be reasonable for Oglethorpe and Piedmont to play in Georgia then bus the winner to KY.  Since these two schools are so close it would save on the cost of an extra bus.  I assume this could be done with other schools that are in the tournament as well...

Well, sure, in theory.  But, what day are you going to play it?  Can't play it on Friday at Dorough and then expect to play Saturday at the Connor Convocation Center, can you?

You certainly can't play it before that.  You'd have a distinct advantage over every other team in the tournament by having 2 or 3 more days to prepare for your opponent.  Seems a little unfair that you'd have those extra days of practice to get ready Thomas More while everybody else is still practicing for their first round game.

In the long run, these four team pods save not only money, but also time for all the schools involved.  This is just one unfortunate example where it does not.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OUfan22 on March 03, 2008, 12:49:41 PM
I guess the voters thought despite her TOs, kulavic was STILL the best player in the SCAC...im not sure why thats so confusing...the petrels wouldnt be the team they are without her...and her other stats, especially her 58.5fg% (keep in mind, shes's a gaurd) stick out like a sore thumb as well...the 4 or 5 possesions a game she turns the ball over might as well be missed shots, of which she has less than any other player...and she IS averaging less than 5pg, its 4.9  ;)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 03, 2008, 03:14:36 PM
I see what you're saying Wes... I guess the only way it would work would be if they were playing a Friday/Sunday schedule like we do in conference and Saturday could be used as a travel day.  Guess my plan wouldn't work as well as I thought...

SPfan...   We're playing tennis at Maryville on Friday and then I'm thinking about making the drive up for the game on Saturday... I've already got one passenger, the more the merrier and the cheaper the hotel/trip.  Call me
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: vozdelospetrels on March 03, 2008, 06:54:31 PM
I would just like to comment about Kulavic's TO's. If you haven't seen her play in person, then you might not understand her TO's. There are some games where she has her fair share of typical TO's (errant passes or having her pocket picked, or traveling violations), however, a lot of her TO's come on offensive fouls, and passes that her teammates can't hang on to, not errant passes but passes that hit them in the hands. She probably averages a little over 1 offensive fouls per game, and I would bet there is on the average 1 or 2 passes per game that her teammates can't hang on to or they aren't ready for. I've seen plenty of amazing passes from Kulavic this season go on the stat sheet as TO's because her teammates weren't ready for the pass or couldn't hang on to them. I really don't think her TO's are as big a deal as many make them out to be. Additionally, with OU's style of play they are asked to push the ball upcourt; the fastest way to move the ball is with the pass and a lot of those full court passes go long. OU does not play possession basketball, therefore, their TO's can not be analyzed like other teams'.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on March 03, 2008, 07:27:08 PM
Quote from: vozdelospetrels on March 03, 2008, 06:54:31 PM
I've seen plenty of amazing passes from Kulavic this season go on the stat sheet as TO's because her teammates weren't ready for the pass or couldn't hang on to them. I really don't think her TO's are as big a deal as many make them out to be.

First, let me say I'm not upset she won the award.  For my money, she's the most important player to her team on any team in this league.  Take her out, and OU is in bigger trouble than DPU or TU if you take their leading scorer away. 

But, that being said, I refuse to buy into any argument about turnovers that attempts to shed a positive light on them.  Turnovers are inherently bad.  I don't care how you commit them.  She (or anyone else) should not be considered as a better candidate because they have "better turnovers than it appears."  I  don't think such a concept exists.  If somebody fumbles a Kulavic pass, then she probably shouldn't throw it 30 more times during the course of a season.  That, or your statistician shouldn't punish her for teammates that can't catch.  I also don't care that some high percentage of her turnovers may come on offensive fouls.  She still turned the basketball over.  It counts just the same as dribbling it off your foot or throwing it right to a player on the other team.  If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.  Turnover is a turnover, and no one is any better than any other.

Now, does she do enough in other facets of the game to make up for her turnovers?  I say she certainly does.  Maybe other fans of teams in this league say she does not.  She obviously scores.  Best shooter in our league.  Still had the 7th most assists in the league this year.  Good on the ball defender.  She's a great player.  The first time I saw her play, I had a feeling she'd win at least one of those before she got out of there.  But, there are no "good" turnovers.  Her turnovers weren't better turnovers than anybody else's.  There's just no such thing.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: vozdelospetrels on March 04, 2008, 03:31:28 PM
Wes,

I never called them good TO's but it's not as if she throwing passes in the stands. I agree that no TO is good, but having few TO's is not necessary for her to be a great player. Think about this for a second, some players only average 2 or 3 rebounds, should they be considered lesser of players because we think they should have averaged 4 or 5 rebounds. We just say that that person doesn't rebound, who knows how many possessions they have cost their team for not going after rebounds. The way she plays she is going to have TO's, the way the team plays they are going to have a lot of TO's. As a fan I wish they would cut them down, but that's their style of play. You take the bad with the good as long as the good outways the bad. In her case, the good trumps the bad. I just don't think that it fair for people to say she not have won POTY because of her TO's.

Kulavic at 4.75 TO's/game accounted for 21.11% of her teams TO's, Pruzin for example, while only averaging 2.82 TO's/game accounted for 17.79% of her teams TO's. When you break it down like that I don't think the TO's are that much different. To me it comes down to difference in style of play between the teams.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 06, 2008, 07:03:26 PM
Trinity fans, a basketball expert whom I greatly respect really enjoyed the TU-McM game.  S/he commented about how disciplined and well-coached you were.  The contrast in basketball styles made for a enjoyable game for the serious basketball fan.

Good luck, and thanks!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 07, 2008, 10:08:26 AM
I keep reading about all the snow that's falling near Danville on over on the mens board.  I'm planning on driving to Thomas More for the second round game, that is if we beat Piedmont.  Does anyone from that area have any advice for traveling, what to expect or even if the trip is possible.  I'll be leaving from Chattanooga Saturday morning...
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on March 07, 2008, 11:44:47 AM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on March 07, 2008, 10:08:26 AM
I keep reading about all the snow that's falling near Danville on over on the mens board.  I'm planning on driving to Thomas More for the second round game, that is if we beat Piedmont.  Does anyone from that area have any advice for traveling, what to expect or even if the trip is possible.  I'll be leaving from Chattanooga Saturday morning...

Cincy's calling for about 8 or 9 inches a foot of snow between now and tomorrow afternoon, I believe.  It's currently snowing pretty heavily here in Indy.  (Working at a TV station is at least good for something.  I've always got the forecast.)

I would expect the main roads and interstates to be pretty good by the time you get through there tomorrow.  The first 300 miles or so of your journey won't be too bad. 

However, I'd be a little concerned with the last 4 or 5 miles once you get to town and start having to navigate those city streets.  Having seen Crestview Hills, KY once before, it doesn't exactly scream "we've got a great public works department" to me.  The Chili's is good, though.  Right off 275, if I recall. 

Guess I don't really have advice for you, partner.  Depends how comfortable you are driving on a nice heavy snowpack.  Not calling for any ice or feezing stuff, so as long as you take 'er nice and easy, you should be OK.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: spfan22 on March 07, 2008, 12:37:35 PM
Lucky for Flight that i'll be traveling with him.. Being from Indiana, I've driven in the heavy snow on several occasions.. so hopefully we'll be ok..

Good Luck to both Depauw and OU tonight.. rep the SCAC well..

Hopefully OU gets that first tourney win under their belt.. at least they better.. I took an extra day off work to make the trip for saturday nights game   :)

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 07, 2008, 05:46:03 PM
Thanks for the advice Wes... being from the South we've heard about snow but we rarely see it.  I'll pack a snow shovel, ice pick and allow a few hours extra travel time just in case so we can safely get there.

OU's up 20-15 28-15 after a Osmanson and Findley 3 (3-4) and 2 ft's from Grace in the early going... hopefully we can continue to the win.

Good luck to Depauw in tonight's action as well.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: vozdelospetrels on March 07, 2008, 06:23:39 PM
Petrels up 11 at the half 49-38 over Piedmont. Hopefully they can keep this up.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: vozdelospetrels on March 07, 2008, 07:15:31 PM
OU wins by 13 over Piedmont. Final score 91-78. 1st ever win in NCAA Tournament play for Oglethorpe Women's basketball.   
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 07, 2008, 07:17:36 PM
Big win for the Lady Petrels!  The big test is tomorrow... time to hit the road and make the journey to Blizard Country!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on March 07, 2008, 11:23:58 PM
Get your Skyline Chili while you're in Cincy, FlightofthePetrel!  My home town, but I never took a shine for the 4-way chili in the Queen City.  Thomas More is relatively easy to find off I-275 east just before you get to the Ohio River.  Drive carefully; there should be snow and cold temps along the route.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on March 07, 2008, 11:29:48 PM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on March 07, 2008, 05:46:03 PM
Thanks for the advice Wes... being from the South we've heard about snow but we rarely see it. 

So you say that,  but then you don't do yourself any favors by following it with this:

Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on March 07, 2008, 07:17:36 PM
time to hit the road and make the journey to Blizard Country!

You know you're from the South when you can't spell blizzard right. :D

Also, DPU 70 Denison 53.  Game was a lot closer than the final indicated for a good portion of the second half.  Missed a few lay-ups.  Didn't shoot it very well.  But, I thought they played great defense all evening long.  Denison had a tough time getting anything going on the offensive end.  Wash U tomorrow evening.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: spfan22 on March 07, 2008, 11:49:32 PM
On the road right now.. Flight and I are about 100 miles from lexington.. No bad weather yet.. Just rain.. Pbrooks3 thanks for the recommendation.. We'll be sure to give it a try.. And yes wes flight can't spell plus he's from the south.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on March 08, 2008, 12:28:08 AM
Quote from: spfan22 on March 07, 2008, 11:49:32 PM
On the road right now.. Flight and I are about 100 miles from lexington.. No bad weather yet.. Just rain.. Pbrooks3 thanks for the recommendation.. We'll be sure to give it a try.. And yes wes flight can't spell plus he's from the south.
If it's not too cold and you have a hankering for something sweet, stop at Graeters for ice cream.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 08, 2008, 05:29:29 AM
Finally made it... avg speed the last 4 hours was 37 MPH... made for a rough ending to a trip that started out so well.  Sitting in the lobby of the Hampton Inn looking for discounts on expedia, priceline or any otehr internet site that may help a few college guys refrain from paying the $120 rent.... so far the best we can come up with $109- hey it all counts.

Look forward to a great game tomorrow- with the Petrels coming out on top.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: vozdelospetrels on March 08, 2008, 10:59:15 AM
What's the deal with Thomas More besides the obvious fact that they're 29-0? Any DePauw or Centre fans know much about this team? 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on March 08, 2008, 01:03:14 PM
I know they defeated DePauw. Can't give any scouting report on them.

The weather has slowed down many folks traveling - my son came home last night for his spring break from Hendrix - 165 miles in nearly 6 hours; that works out to less than 30 mph.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Rufio on March 08, 2008, 08:59:51 PM
I just got a texted update from Flight... Oglethorpe leads 61-54 with 55 seconds left.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: vozdelospetrels on March 08, 2008, 09:04:36 PM
Incredible!!! Way to go Lady Petrels!!! I actually had a feeling that Thomas More's victory over DePauw was early in the season when DePauw was still finding themselves. OU wins by 10 65-55. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hornetiger on March 08, 2008, 09:07:29 PM
DePauw 73
Wash U 66

DePauw led the first 99% of the first half, just for Wash U. to take the lead on free throws in the last minute.  Second half was really close for the first 10 minutes or so, then DePauw had a 7-0 run with Janice Evans on the bench in foul trouble.  Wash U. got back into it and got back within 3, but they couldn't overcome the fact that all of their post players had 4 fouls, Fernandez would either get a lay-up or draw a foul, and Marshall had some huge offensive rebounds in the last four minutes.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on March 08, 2008, 09:14:01 PM
Congratulations to the Lady Petrels from the Brooks in Memphis on a great victory tonight.  Women's basketball in the SCAC is in good hands with both Oglethorpe and DePauw getting wins in the 2nd round.  Way to go girls!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on March 09, 2008, 07:29:17 PM
Going to be pretty upfront here.  I'm awfully upset that Whitewater was selected as the host site for the regional DePauw is playing in.

I had heard that there were a few inaccuracies regarding the mileage from Simpson College (Indianola, Iowa) to Greencastle.  I believe it is less than the required 500 miles, but the NCAA may not have had accurate information. 

I thought DePauw had a very good shot at it if the mileage number was right.  Bummer.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hornetiger on March 09, 2008, 08:03:09 PM
Quote from: Wes Anderson on March 09, 2008, 07:29:17 PM
Going to be pretty upfront here.  I'm awfully upset that Whitewater was selected as the host site for the regional DePauw is playing in.

I had heard that there were a few inaccuracies regarding the mileage from Simpson College (Indianola, Iowa) to Greencastle.  I believe it is less than the required 500 miles, but the NCAA may not have had accurate information. 

I thought DePauw had a very good shot at it if the mileage number was right.  Bummer.

Earlier today I did some quick mapquest research.  All travel miles combined, there was about a 34 mile difference between the total if teams travelled to DePauw vs. Wisconsin-Whitewater.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: blackngold on March 09, 2008, 09:08:44 PM
Congratulations to a great DePauw win!!! The girls played with alot of determination and DePauw's bench had alot to do with the win. Katie Matthews had a big game playing the point in relief of Gretchen Haehl. Wash U and Fahey are real hard to beat at tourney time so the Tigers should be  proud of this past weekend. I am real disappointed about the selection of Whitewater getting to host but DePauw did it last year on the road and will be ready this year. Go Tigers and beat Amhurst!!!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hornetiger on March 09, 2008, 09:18:27 PM
On another note, when's the last time someone could say they beat the Wash U. women three times in a row?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on March 09, 2008, 09:58:23 PM
Quote from: hornetiger on March 09, 2008, 08:03:09 PM
Earlier today I did some quick mapquest research.  All travel miles combined, there was about a 34 mile difference between the total if teams travelled to DePauw vs. Wisconsin-Whitewater.

That's a fair point, but that's not the deciding factor. 

If it turns out the NCAA believed that Simpson was more than 500 from DePauw (which is wrong), then DePauw probably wasn't ever considered.  It's not 500 miles for either team to get to Whitewater, which is why I think that they may have been chosen to host.  If it turns out that the reason the NCAA selected UWW is because they had the mileage wrong, a lot of DePauw fans are going to be pretty upset.  If they chose UWW simply because they thought they were the best team of the four, then that's an entirely different debate altogether.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 09, 2008, 10:11:52 PM
Quote from: Wes Anderson on March 09, 2008, 09:58:23 PM
...

That's a fair point, but that's not the deciding factor. 

If it turns out the NCAA believed that Simpson was more than 500 from DePauw (which is wrong), then DePauw probably wasn't ever considered.  It's not 500 miles for either team to get to Whitewater, which is why I think that they may have been chosen to host.  If it turns out that the reason the NCAA selected UWW is because they had the mileage wrong, a lot of DePauw fans are going to be pretty upset.  If they chose UWW simply because they thought they were the best team of the four, then that's an entirely different debate altogether.
msn.mappoint.com

Official mileage from msn.mappoint.com as designated by the Championship Handbook (shortest distance) from Simpson to DePauw is 502.1 miles.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 09, 2008, 11:44:57 PM
Still on the periphery of the Kulavic discussion and trying learn...

Is Katie really a 2-guard trying to do the job of a 1-guard?  Stats are not that different from Flynn.

Lots of points, lots of steals and lots of rebounds, but lots of turnovers (A/T = 0.9).

McMurry's 2008 all-American PG Symbri Tuttle had a A/TO of 2.5-5.0 seasonal ratio, but less than 8 ppg.  Symbri finished as the #3 all-time NCAA leader in assists.

Just a thought...

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on March 10, 2008, 12:26:48 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 09, 2008, 10:11:52 PM
Official mileage from msn.mappoint.com as designated by the Championship Handbook (shortest distance) from Simpson to DePauw is 502.1 miles.

Yeah, I know that Ralph.  I was dicsussing that with a few DePauw higher-ups last evening.  But I was told that wasn't exactly correct.  I understand the Handbook and the rules, but that wasn't what I was told.  Apparently there was an issue with that number and it's correctness with several DePauw officials.  If I remembered what I was told, I'd certainly share it with you.  But I don't.  I look pretty stupid right now, but it's all I got.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 10, 2008, 01:35:12 AM
Quote from: Wes Anderson on March 10, 2008, 12:26:48 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 09, 2008, 10:11:52 PM
Official mileage from msn.mappoint.com as designated by the Championship Handbook (shortest distance) from Simpson to DePauw is 502.1 miles.

Yeah, I know that Ralph.  I was dicsussing that with a few DePauw higher-ups last evening.  But I was told that wasn't exactly correct.  I understand the Handbook and the rules, but that wasn't what I was told.  Apparently there was an issue with that number and it's correctness with several DePauw officials.  If I remembered what I was told, I'd certainly share it with you.  But I don't.  I look pretty stupid right now, but it's all I got.
Comprehende

No, you just explained the cognitive dissonance that existed in the minds of the higher-ups. ;)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: vozdelospetrels on March 10, 2008, 09:13:01 AM
Ralph,

Kulavic is more of 3 in my opinion. Hannah Brooks would be considered Oglethorpe's point guard, Findley is definitley their 2 guard. Kulavic handles the ball a lot but is not their point guard. Additionally, there is Corbett in the starting line-up and she is somewhere between the 2 and 3 position as well. That's if you want to classify their guards in a classic sense, however, I just like to think they play with 4 guards. I don't know if that helps you at all. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bubba the Petrel on March 10, 2008, 10:06:22 AM
Quote from: vozdelospetrels on March 10, 2008, 09:13:01 AM
Ralph,

Kulavic is more of 3 in my opinion. Hannah Brooks would be considered Oglethorpe's point guard, Findley is definitley their 2 guard. Kulavic handles the ball a lot but is not their point guard. Additionally, there is Corbett in the starting line-up and she is somewhere between the 2 and 3 position as well. That's if you want to classify their guards in a classic sense, however, I just like to think they play with 4 guards. I don't know if that helps you at all. 

The AJC article (http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/printedition/2008/03/10/oglethorpe0310.html) this morning on the Petrels (after no mention of the games in either the Saturday or Sunday papers) classified them as playing with 5 guards.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on March 10, 2008, 12:48:35 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 09, 2008, 10:11:52 PM
msn.mappoint.com

Official mileage from msn.mappoint.com as designated by the Championship Handbook (shortest distance) from Simpson to DePauw is 502.1 miles.

Also, when I crunch those numbers on that site, I get 436.5 miles on shortest distance.

I believe the issue was that all of these numbers are stored in a database somewhere and the database number wasn't right.  I imagine the outcry about an error likely fell on deaf ears, causing DePauw to be on the road this weekend.  Or something to that effect.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: vozdelospetrels on March 10, 2008, 01:49:00 PM
QuoteThe AJC article this morning on the Petrels (after no mention of the games in either the Saturday or Sunday papers) classified them as playing with 5 guards.

The AJC also said they start 5 juniors. Corbett is a 5th yr senior.

Bubba - Since you brought up the lack of AJC coverage I figure I'll put in my two cents. The AJC does a terrible job covering any college in this state that is not Georgia Tech or the University of Georgia. The AJC seems to overlook the smaller schools. I don't know why. It's not as if they are a major news publication, they may want to be but they're not. High School athletics, especially football, gets more coverage than the smaller colleges in Georgia. It's a shame.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: spfan22 on March 10, 2008, 06:16:59 PM
Crazy trip to KY this weekend.. Flight drives like a maniac and the weather was terrible (14 inches of snow we had to fight on the way up).. not the best combination

OU played a very solid game on Saturday night.. they had one lull early in the second half but they responded very nicely to Thomas More's run.. the OU girls out toughed a Thomas More team thats known for their toughness.. The girls did their best in the paint outrebounding Thomas More by 20.. Corbett and Findley shut down their best player, thus resulting in frustration out of her the whole game.. overall, probably the most complete game OU has played all year.. solid game all around and they limited their turnovers, which is what you have to do against great teams

Very proud of the girls.. hoping they can win on Friday night so I can fly up to New Jersey for the elite 8 game on Satuday night.. also.. good luck to depauw girls and the millsaps boys this weekend
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Post by: vozdelospetrels on March 10, 2008, 06:58:28 PM
SPFan22 ,

Pretty sure I heard you and Flight yelling at the officials during the game through OU's webcast. I heard OU had a good fan base at Thomas More; I'm glad the ladies got some familiar support on the road.
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Post by: spfan22 on March 10, 2008, 08:44:15 PM
vozdelos: 
yeah.. I was only frustrated with the officials once or twice throughout the game.. and of course I let them know about it.. It was actually one of the best officiated games ive seen.. they let them play physical.. from the start I thought that would hurt OU due to lack of size.. but they withstood and played great team defense..

OU had about 50 fans that traveled.. maybe a little more, maybe a little less..  we were actually louder than Thomas More's 1000 fans at some points with our constant defense chants.. Thomas More's fans were very mild mannered, I had to refrain myself several times from saying things I would normally say because I knew the Thomas More fans wouldnt respond back.. Thomas More fans were very respectful but not a group of fans that you could battle back and forth between

At one point.. a few Thomas More baseball players came and sat inches from a few of our fans.. one of our fans clever response "did you guys come to get a closer look of us kickin your a**"  i thought it was pretty humorous and figured you would get a laugh from that as well..
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 10, 2008, 09:54:07 PM
Quote from: spfan22 on March 10, 2008, 06:16:59 PM
Crazy trip to KY this weekend.. Flight drives like a maniac and the weather was terrible (14 inches of snow we had to fight on the way up).. not the best combination

I'm not sure if I should take offense to that or not... all I know is we made it up there alive- and in my books that's all that counts.  Those who know me know I don't do anything half ass  ;)

Quote from: spfan22 on March 10, 2008, 06:16:59 PM
OU played a very solid game on Saturday night.. probably the most complete game OU has played all year.. solid game all around and they limited their turnovers, which is what you have to do against great teams

I agree that was the most complete game they've played all year.  At the beginning of the year I pointed out that while they were beating teams by 20 and 30 points they still wern't playing up to their potential.  28 games later... they finally found their stroke.  This team stepped up where they would have folded earlier... they answered an 11-5 run when Thomas More took the lead 46-45, and the TM faithful at their loudest, with a made free-throw and a Tina Grace layup that allowed OU to take a lead they would not relinquish.  The game was nip and tuck the remaining 10 minutes but everytime TM cut it to 2 or 3  OU would hit a big shot to extend the lead.  THAT is what the Lady Petrels were missing earlier in the year and now that they've found it along with confidence that comes from beating an undefeated and #3 ranked I think it's feasible that they come away with 2 more wins this weekend.

Just like last weekend... win the Friday game and I'll see you on Saturday ladies...
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 10, 2008, 10:07:17 PM
Does anyone know what time the 4th round game on March 15th at Kean would be?  I can only find the time for the 3rd round games?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 11, 2008, 03:43:00 PM
WBCA just released their finalist for their All American team

http://www.wbca.org/releases/DIIISFCAATFinalistsPR2008.htm

Ashley Farrell a senior from Rhodes was the only nomination from the SCAC.  Congrats to her on a great career.

Where's the SCAC POTY though?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: blackngold on March 11, 2008, 10:08:42 PM
You wonder who is doing the voting or not voting on the All- American nominations. It is hard for me to believe that SCAC PLOY Kuvalik(sp?) is not a nominee since I got to see both players alot over the last three years and there is no contest in my humble opinion. Also I see that Amherst guard Shaina Pollack is a nominee and will have to line up against DePauw guards in a couple of days. We will see how she fares and I wonder if she has seen the kind of defense that the guards from DePauw can slap on you?? Time will tell. Go Tigers!!!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 12, 2008, 12:27:30 AM
Well, those aren't nominees, those are finalists. We have to assume they were nominated but this is not a list of all nominees.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 12, 2008, 10:21:07 AM
Pat,

Bad choice of words on my part.  I'm sure Kulavic was nominated but not chosen as a finalist.  Regardless to have a player who played on a losing team make it over the POTY who played on a Sweet 16 team (when their stats are almost the exact same)... kinda makes you wonder if the people out there are even paying attention.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: vozdelospetrels on March 12, 2008, 10:48:42 AM
I do believe that it was the WBCA that selected Farrell as the SCAC pre-season player of the year and pre-season All American. Different organizations have their eyes on different players. In MLB it seems that once you've won one Rawlings Gold Glove Award, the only way to not keep winning one is to completely have a disastrous season in the field. That being said, Farrell still had a good season and was on this group's radar from the beginning.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OUfan22 on March 12, 2008, 01:53:17 PM
This may sound like a silly question, but is there more than one list of all americans? im thinking along the lines of there being a couple different nat'l rankings type thing.  i find it absurd that kulavic would be a preseaon all american and not make the list of finalists!? i've had personal experience playing against a few of the people on that list and i find it difficult to believe that she would not make the cut if they did...
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: vozdelospetrels on March 12, 2008, 02:37:50 PM
There are different lists. Kulavic was a D3hoops.com pre-season All American.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on March 12, 2008, 06:39:24 PM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on March 12, 2008, 10:21:07 AM
Regardless to have a player who played on a losing team make it over the POTY who played on a Sweet 16 team (when their stats are almost the exact same)... kinda makes you wonder if the people out there are even paying attention.

I don't like this argument.  I have a serious problem with the best player on the best team being nominated as an All-American.   If you want to tell me that the best player on the best team is worthy of being POTY, then that's fine.  I'll buy that argument. 

I firmly believe that being an All-American is an award given to the individual and that the team in question's record should have no impact on that.  It's an entirely different entity than a conference player of the year.  18, 6, and 2.5 is a very good stat line to post in this conference.  In fact, I'd say Katy Williams of Austin may be the best nominee, as she went for 19 and 12 and shot 55%  Shouldn't it be that the Lynx's record (or the record of any other nominee) has absolutely no bearing on it?

And, also, if you want to tell me that Kulavic is more worthy than either of those nominees based SOLELY on her statistical achievements, I'll buy that argument, too.  However, to me, she cannot be an All-American due to the quality of play of her teammates.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: vozdelospetrels on March 12, 2008, 06:52:11 PM
In all fairness it has to be incredibly difficult to come up with the All American finalist for DIII hoops....so many teams, so many players with similar stats, and very little National exposure for most players. You've got rely on stat lines and prior year performance...are the stats a fluke, or has this player done this before? I personally feel that the All American nominees should be limited to only Seniors, there would still be a large talent pool to choose from if this was the case, but would automatically cut out  a large portion of nominees. DOn't blast me too much for that comment.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 12, 2008, 11:06:46 PM
Quote from: Wes Anderson on March 12, 2008, 06:39:24 PM
And, also, if you want to tell me that Kulavic is more worthy than either of those nominees based SOLELY on her statistical achievements, I'll buy that argument, too.  However, to me, she cannot be an All-American due to the quality of play of her teammates.

I was merely comparing the two player's statistics and since they were fairly even I went a little further to note that Katie was putting up these numbers for a very good team... a team that SHE made good.  Not to say that her teamates didn't do anything because they did- she has some amazing teamates.  Katie also put up these numbers in 5 less minutes per game or 110 total minutes (5 minutes per Farrell's 22 games).  Kulavic was also taken out of games regardless of stats that were WAY out of hand early on in the season... she could easily be averaging 20+ points right now if statistics were what mattered most. 

enough of that though... I just thought it was ODD that she didn't make the list and Farrell did... didn't mean to open up that soapbox again.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 13, 2008, 03:22:56 PM
D3hoops.com will be broadcasting audio of the entire Kean sectional on the Net:
http://www.d3hoops.com/audio/
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 13, 2008, 10:26:24 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 13, 2008, 03:22:56 PM
D3hoops.com will be broadcasting audio of the entire Kean sectional on the Net:
http://www.d3hoops.com/audio/

Thanks Pat... any word on if it will be video simulcast?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: vozdelospetrels on March 14, 2008, 12:03:10 PM
Good Luck to DePauw tonight and hopefully OU can take care of business as well.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 14, 2008, 07:14:44 PM
Gotta Love the Petrels!!!!   the battle of the birds and we came out on top.


GO OU!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 14, 2008, 08:16:19 PM
In the other game, Kean 26, Chicago 13  approx 6 minutes left in 1st half.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 14, 2008, 08:36:04 PM
Kean 36, Chicago 22  half
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: vozdelospetrels on March 14, 2008, 08:49:52 PM
Congrats to OU and DePauw on advancing to the elite 8...or sectional finals.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 14, 2008, 09:09:37 PM
Kean 54, Chicago 43  Less than 10 minutes left in 2nd,.
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Post by: pbrooks3 on March 14, 2008, 09:12:24 PM
Way to go Oglethorpe and DePauw.  Keep playing girls!!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 14, 2008, 09:31:41 PM
Oglethorpe's next opponent? 

Kean, which is pulling away from Chicago (Maroons down 15 with 24 seconds left).

Oglethorpe will need to get off to a fast start. Kean has come out of the gate quickly in the last 2 games to lead big and then hang on (Maroons cut a 24 pt defict down to 9 but got no closer.)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: vozdelospetrels on March 15, 2008, 12:26:58 PM
No matter the outcome of the OU game tonight, the Lady Petrels have had a tremendous season. This post seaosn run has been awesome. I think playing DePauw 3 times has really helped them prepare for this post season. The SCAC schedule in general this year really was tough when you consider the players and talent that Birmingham Southern brought to the conference. Playing against players of that caliber really had to help OU and DePauw prepare for the talent they've seen in the tournament.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 15, 2008, 06:03:19 PM
Oglethorpe and Kean just underway, tied at 2.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 15, 2008, 06:08:44 PM
Oglethorpe 15, Kean 8  approx 15 minutes left in 1st
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Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 15, 2008, 06:18:34 PM
Oglethorpe up 24-19  midway thru 1st half.
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Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 15, 2008, 06:24:17 PM
Oglethorpe and Kean tied at 27  about  7 minutes left in 1st half.
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Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 15, 2008, 07:12:08 PM
11 1/2 minutes left in 2nd, 66-60 Oglethorpe.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 15, 2008, 07:27:35 PM
4:10 left in 2nd  Oglethorpe 85, Kean 78.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 15, 2008, 07:30:45 PM
Anna Findley is absolutely on FIRE... 39 points so far.  She's something like 8-9 from 3 from what I can hear.  89-78  2:47 left in the game.


GO PETRELS!!!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 15, 2008, 07:40:45 PM
We're going to MICHIGAN!!! I've never been so happy in my life to go North! 

It's a special year for the Stormy Petrels!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 15, 2008, 07:41:12 PM
Oglethorpe wins, 98-86!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: vozdelospetrels on March 15, 2008, 07:42:24 PM
DePauw come join us in Holland. Way to go Lady Petrels.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on March 15, 2008, 07:44:29 PM
How about the Lady Petrels - 98-86 win over Kean to reach the Final 4. Congratulations from a Centre fan to a fine ladies basketball team.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: mamadukes on March 15, 2008, 07:50:57 PM
Way to go Oglethorpe!! Not many DIII teams in Georgia and I'm glad the girls are making the trip!! Our UMW Eagles may not be there, but I couldn't be more pleased that the girls from MY HOME STATE will be there!!  Dress warm!
Congratulations to the Lady Petrels!!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 15, 2008, 07:59:25 PM
DePauw/UW-Whitewater on deck:
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 15, 2008, 08:07:11 PM
Approx 15 minutes left in 1st half  DePauw 17, UW Whitewater 14
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Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 15, 2008, 08:17:54 PM
26-20, DePauw  11 min left in 1st half
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Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 15, 2008, 08:32:31 PM
DePauw up 37-30  Just over 5 minutes left in 1st half
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Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 15, 2008, 08:44:47 PM
UW-Whitewater 46, DePauw 44  Half
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Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 15, 2008, 09:10:45 PM
Game tied at 55 with 14 minutes left in 2nd.
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Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 15, 2008, 09:20:00 PM
Game tied at 63--10 minutes left.
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Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 15, 2008, 09:30:18 PM
UW-Whitewater up 76-70 with just over 5 minutes left in 2nd.
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Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 15, 2008, 09:37:41 PM
Game tied at 80  1:10 left in regulation.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 15, 2008, 09:46:39 PM
UW-Whitewater 83, Depauw 80  Final  (At least your conference still bats .500 on the evening) ;)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 15, 2008, 09:49:02 PM
Great showing from the Defending National Champions... you represented the SCAC well and I'm sad we won't see you next weekend.  Congrats to DPU's senior class 110-15 I just heard their announcer say- absolutely amazing run!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on March 15, 2008, 09:50:08 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on March 15, 2008, 09:46:39 PM
UW-Whitewater 83, Depauw 80  Final  (At least your conference still bats .500 on the evening) ;)
DePauw played tough on the road in a hostile environment.  Listened to the final 4 minutes of the game - didn't get any ref whistles going the Tiger's way in the stretch.  Despite the loss, another outstanding season for Huffman and her girls.  Whitewater earned a good victory and should be proud of their victory over the defending national champs.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on March 15, 2008, 10:50:12 PM
Quote from: pbrooks3 on March 15, 2008, 09:50:08 PM
DePauw played tough on the road in a hostile environment.  

Still upset since I feel that they shouldn't have ever had to go there in the first place. 

But on a positive note, it was yet another great season for the Old Gold.  And they're stacked for next year... again.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 15, 2008, 11:40:42 PM
I remember a questionable call toward the end.  Shot Clock winding down UWW misses and DPU rebounds but the ball is stripped from them right away- girls foot is on the endline but after gathering together the refs give them the TO... seemed to be the turning point of the game as UWW got a basket and were up for good from that point.  Guess that's the benefit of playing at home...   even though the officials are chosen by the NCAA?   guess it doesn't matter but Depauw should have hosted and I'm sure it would have been at great atmosphere. 

Look forward to doing battle with ya'll again next year...
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: spfan22 on March 16, 2008, 01:05:36 AM
In new jersey right now where the lady petrels have won another outstanding game.. They played really well and kean decided to continue to let findlay get open looks.. Findlay had a great individual performance on a night where the whole team played well almost the entire game.. OU is playing with so much confidence right now and at this point anything can happen.. I really look forward to flying up to michigan for the final 4.. I might do what I've done the last two weeks.. Miss the first game and travel for the second game.. That strategy has seemed to work so far.. Also wanted to congratulate Depauw on another great season and that you always represent the SCAC well with great team play and 100% effort
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPULefty22 on March 16, 2008, 01:29:24 AM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on March 15, 2008, 11:40:42 PM
I remember a questionable call toward the end.  Shot Clock winding down UWW misses and DPU rebounds but the ball is stripped from them right away- girls foot is on the endline but after gathering together the refs give them the TO... seemed to be the turning point of the game as UWW got a basket and were up for good from that point.  Guess that's the benefit of playing at home...   even though the officials are chosen by the NCAA?

You know, I wasn't going to say anything about this, but since you brought it up first... sitting courtside, I absolutely KNEW that as soon as the far side official came sprinting in from halfcourt after the initial call (which was out of bounds, DPU ball) that the call was getting overturned. And it was absolutely, unquestionably, the wrong call. I'm fine with them not calling an over-the-back on the UWW girl, I'm fine with not calling the over and back - but the referee who was RIGHT ON THE END LINE called that play out of bounds as the player was yelling for a time out. Which means one of two things:

1) She was out of bounds before the time out was called.
2) She was falling out of bounds as she tried to call the time out, which I'm pretty sure is not allowed (and even if it is, it should have been a travel in that case anyway).

Either way, the two refs closest to the play were argued out of it by the official furthest away from the play.

Just wanted to go on the record with my on-site account of that one - anything else I have to say about the game at this point in time would just make me sound bitter and petty.

I will just say this: DPU's four seniors - Gretchen and Gwen Haehl, Adedrea Chaney, and Kalei Lowes - were part of four DPU teams that went a combined 111-15 over their four years. When they arrived, DPU was an SCAC power. When they left, DPU was a national power and a reigning champion (they get one more weekend to claim that, anyway).

That's one hell of a senior class and my hat is off to them. And with three key starters (including the top two scorers and the top three rebounders) set to come back next year - DPU will be right back in the national title picture in 08-09. No question in my mind.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 16, 2008, 03:21:51 AM
I thought about not bringing it up either, but I did want to hear your actual reaction to the call.  You did a good job of controling yourself during the game, a lesser man might have ran on the court and strangled the ref (raises hand) just kidding.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 16, 2008, 03:26:25 AM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on November 09, 2007, 12:03:01 PM
WOMEN'S DIII NEWS PRESEASON TOP 25 POLL

#   TEAM                          2006-07
1.  Capital                          20-7
2.  New York University              27-4
3.  Washington University (Mo.)      25-6
4.  Bowdoin College                  29-2
5.  Kean                             27-4
6.  DePauw                           31-3
7.  Calvin                           28-3
8.  Wisconsin-Eau Claire             19-9
9.  University of Southern Maine     27-3
10. Illinois Wesleyan                22-6
11. Messiah                          26-3
12. Hope College                     24-4
13. Millikin                         20-6
14. Luther College                   24-5
15. Emmanuel College                 29-2
16. Mary Washington                  31-3
17. Wilmington                       25-5
18. St. Benedict                     22-6
19. Scranton                         27-3
20. Oglethorpe                       21-8
21. George Fox                       19-7
22. Randolph-Macon                   26-5
23. Puget Sound                      24-7
24. Manchester                       21-7
25. Carroll                          22-5


Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 09, 2007, 09:33:30 PM
I very seldom will ridicule something as being completely unbelievable, but that numerically-ordered collection of schools playing D-III women's basketball is not to be believed.

First, Howard Payne returns almost everyone from the Sweet 16 team that went 28-2 in 2007.

McMurry returns 10 players from the 24-5 #19 2006-2007 team that lost only their point guard but return their All-American Center Tarra Richardson.

There is even no consideration in the "good-ol' girls" network for Hardin-Simmons or Mississippi College or Trinity TX.

Interesting to look back at the Preseason Top 25 poll and the current one. Looks like Ralph had a right to be outraged at the beginning of the season as Howard Payne ran the table all the way to the Final 4. Maybe they were just a tad bit mad they were left out of the poll?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on March 16, 2008, 08:59:28 AM
Tough way for DPU to bow out. What a great season for them and Oglethorpe!  These squads along with Trinity represented the SCAC very well in D3 this season. The strength of the SCAC on the women's side is unquestioned throughout the land yet again!  Congratulations to all 3 teams, and OU, good luck to your team in the final 4 at Hope next weekend. Oglethorpe is represented by an outstanding coach and great student-athletes.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 17, 2008, 12:05:38 AM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on March 16, 2008, 03:26:25 AM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on November 09, 2007, 12:03:01 PM
WOMEN'S DIII NEWS PRESEASON TOP 25 POLL

#   TEAM                          2006-07
1.  Capital                          20-7
2.  New York University              27-4
3.  Washington University (Mo.)      25-6
4.  Bowdoin College                  29-2
5.  Kean                             27-4
6.  DePauw                           31-3
7.  Calvin                           28-3
8.  Wisconsin-Eau Claire             19-9
9.  University of Southern Maine     27-3
10. Illinois Wesleyan                22-6
11. Messiah                          26-3
12. Hope College                     24-4
13. Millikin                         20-6
14. Luther College                   24-5
15. Emmanuel College                 29-2
16. Mary Washington                  31-3
17. Wilmington                       25-5
18. St. Benedict                     22-6
19. Scranton                         27-3
20. Oglethorpe                       21-8
21. George Fox                       19-7
22. Randolph-Macon                   26-5
23. Puget Sound                      24-7
24. Manchester                       21-7
25. Carroll                          22-5


Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 09, 2007, 09:33:30 PM
I very seldom will ridicule something as being completely unbelievable, but that numerically-ordered collection of schools playing D-III women's basketball is not to be believed.

First, Howard Payne returns almost everyone from the Sweet 16 team that went 28-2 in 2007.

McMurry returns 10 players from the 24-5 #19 2006-2007 team that lost only their point guard but return their All-American Center Tarra Richardson.

There is even no consideration in the "good-ol' girls" network for Hardin-Simmons or Mississippi College or Trinity TX.

Interesting to look back at the Preseason Top 25 poll and the current one. Looks like Ralph had a right to be outraged at the beginning of the season as Howard Payne ran the table all the way to the Final 4. Maybe they were just a tad bit mad they were left out of the poll?

Well that's why nobody cites DIII News' Top 25. :)

Seriously -- the No. 1 spot is wrong all sorts of ways.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: moseshightower on March 17, 2008, 11:38:17 AM
Yeah, DIII News' pre-season issue is pretty much a joke.  I don't know who runs that thing but I feel like they just throw together a top 25 based on very little information.  I think the regulars on these message boards could put together a more accurate (and more enjoyable) pre-season top 25 and preview.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 17, 2008, 12:27:16 PM
Posters should try next October, see how it goes.
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Post by: Pat Coleman on March 17, 2008, 01:31:15 PM
Feature on the front page of interest to Final Four participants and fans here.

Faces of a champion (http://www.d3hoops.com/features/index.html)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bubba the Petrel on March 17, 2008, 01:54:37 PM
Quote from: vozdelospetrels on March 10, 2008, 01:49:00 PMBubba - Since you brought up the lack of AJC coverage I figure I'll put in my two cents. The AJC does a terrible job covering any college in this state that is not Georgia Tech or the University of Georgia. The AJC seems to overlook the smaller schools. I don't know why. It's not as if they are a major news publication, they may want to be but they're not. High School athletics, especially football, gets more coverage than the smaller colleges in Georgia. It's a shame.

This weekend's sectional games got no mention in the Saturday or Sunday papers - two lines were devoted to Saturday's win in this morning's AJC.

Anyhoo...

Congrats to the ladies - keep rolling in the Finals!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 17, 2008, 03:31:53 PM
Quote from: Bubba the Petrel on March 17, 2008, 01:54:37 PM
Quote from: vozdelospetrels on March 10, 2008, 01:49:00 PMBubba - Since you brought up the lack of AJC coverage I figure I'll put in my two cents. The AJC does a terrible job covering any college in this state that is not Georgia Tech or the University of Georgia. The AJC seems to overlook the smaller schools. I don't know why. It's not as if they are a major news publication, they may want to be but they're not. High School athletics, especially football, gets more coverage than the smaller colleges in Georgia. It's a shame.
This weekend's sectional games got no mention in the Saturday or Sunday papers - two lines were devoted to Saturday's win in this morning's AJC.
Anyhoo...
Congrats to the ladies - keep rolling in the Finals!
Which is why the authority on Division III Basketball is D3Hoopscom!   ;)

What we D3 fans must do is to shift the paradigm so that the coverage that we want about our D3 institutions is present on these sites, and these sites are an economically viable entity!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPULefty22 on March 17, 2008, 03:45:21 PM
I just wanted to repost something that came up over at the WIAC board - regarding the officials in the UW-Whitewater regional. This is my post as it appears.

Quote from: DPULefty22 on March 17, 2008, 03:42:57 PM
Quote from: Usuallywrong24 on March 17, 2008, 01:58:16 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on March 17, 2008, 09:55:19 AM
Here's the deal with officials: They all work in more than one league.  So, the NCAA will look at who is playing and then ask a local conference to provide their best crew.  So with UWW and DePauw, they might ask for MWC refs (just an example, I don't which conference provided them).  With two conferences nearby it's very possible that the three MWC refs assigned might also happen to be WIAC refs. They might also happen to be NAC or CCIW refs too.

I think it is wrong for officials to be working teams in the NCAA that they have seen play 5-6 times during the season.  I have been officiating for some time now, and a ref can sometimes be helping or hurting a team, although most of the time unconsciously. Refs will have prior knowledge about how a team plays. An example of this could be knowing if a team is more physical or a certain player is a flopper and this could influence calls. 

I wish the NCAA would try to get the best officials to do these games, not the best officials who live in the area.

I'm not able to give karma boosts... but this bolded portion certainly deserves one.

Did a little research myself on the officials for the UW-W sectional. Appears that of the three that handled the UW-W-Simpson game, two of them (a Barbara Fagan and a Brian Kenney) did at least one UW-W game this season. They were conference games, too.

In the UWW-DePauw game, both Becky Blank and Tyler Nelson officiated WIAC games involving Whitewater in the month of February. The third official that night is a Scott Doberstein. Mr. Doberstein was not an official for any previous WIAC games, but there is a Scott T. Doberstein who works as the athletic trainer at UW-Lacrosse. Perhaps that's nothing more than a strange coincidence, but I'm inclined to believe otherwise.

I would think that the NCAA would wish to try and avoid even the slightest appearance of impropriety in the assignment of their officials. I know that in most cases, that's exactly what happens. I can tell you that at the DePauw regional, the officials had not officiated a single DPU game all season long.

I fear that if I try and stretch the point any further I'll be accused of sour grapes. I just wanted to refute the earlier point that Friday night's officials had no connection to either team and to confirm (and strengthen) the point that Saturday night's officials had strong WIAC ties. And I think that's wrong, in any situation.

You know, I was almost over the whole 'ZERO free throw attempts by DPU in the second half' thing until I saw that and did that research. Now I'm back to being a little upset.

Anyhow, I just think that if nothing else this raises the question of where the officials for the sectional sites are coming from, and why the NCAA and the host site wouldn't go out of their way to ensure that they had officiating crews with no prior knowledge of the teams involved.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on March 17, 2008, 05:32:04 PM
The LaCrosse trainer is an official for an Elite Eight game that Whitewater is playing in??!?!!!  Unbelievable. 

I don't care if the officiating was pristine on Saturday night (which I gather it wasn't). That just ain't right.  That should never happen.  EVER.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on March 17, 2008, 05:37:39 PM
Quote from: Wes Anderson on March 17, 2008, 05:32:04 PM
The LaCrosse trainer is an official for an Elite Eight game that Whitewater is playing in??!?!!!  Unbelievable. 

I don't care if the officiating was pristine on Saturday night (which I gather it wasn't). That just ain't right.  That should never happen.  EVER.

I agree...you can't trust someone from LaCrosse to be fair to Whitewater ;)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 17, 2008, 06:12:39 PM
Quote from: DPULefty22 on March 17, 2008, 03:45:21 PM
I just wanted to repost something that came up over at the WIAC board - regarding the officials in the UW-Whitewater regional. This is my post as it appears.

Quote from: DPULefty22 on March 17, 2008, 03:42:57 PM
Quote from: Usuallywrong24 on March 17, 2008, 01:58:16 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on March 17, 2008, 09:55:19 AM
Here's the deal with officials: They all work in more than one league.  So, the NCAA will look at who is playing and then ask a local conference to provide their best crew.  So with UWW and DePauw, they might ask for MWC refs (just an example, I don't which conference provided them).  With two conferences nearby it's very possible that the three MWC refs assigned might also happen to be WIAC refs. They might also happen to be NAC or CCIW refs too.

I think it is wrong for officials to be working teams in the NCAA that they have seen play 5-6 times during the season.  I have been officiating for some time now, and a ref can sometimes be helping or hurting a team, although most of the time unconsciously. Refs will have prior knowledge about how a team plays. An example of this could be knowing if a team is more physical or a certain player is a flopper and this could influence calls. 

I wish the NCAA would try to get the best officials to do these games, not the best officials who live in the area.

I'm not able to give karma boosts... but this bolded portion certainly deserves one.

Did a little research myself on the officials for the UW-W sectional. Appears that of the three that handled the UW-W-Simpson game, two of them (a Barbara Fagan and a Brian Kenney) did at least one UW-W game this season. They were conference games, too.

In the UWW-DePauw game, both Becky Blank and Tyler Nelson officiated WIAC games involving Whitewater in the month of February. The third official that night is a Scott Doberstein. Mr. Doberstein was not an official for any previous WIAC games, but there is a Scott T. Doberstein who works as the athletic trainer at UW-Lacrosse. Perhaps that's nothing more than a strange coincidence, but I'm inclined to believe otherwise.

I would think that the NCAA would wish to try and avoid even the slightest appearance of impropriety in the assignment of their officials. I know that in most cases, that's exactly what happens. I can tell you that at the DePauw regional, the officials had not officiated a single DPU game all season long.

I fear that if I try and stretch the point any further I'll be accused of sour grapes. I just wanted to refute the earlier point that Friday night's officials had no connection to either team and to confirm (and strengthen) the point that Saturday night's officials had strong WIAC ties. And I think that's wrong, in any situation.

You know, I was almost over the whole 'ZERO free throw attempts by DPU in the second half' thing until I saw that and did that research. Now I'm back to being a little upset.

Anyhow, I just think that if nothing else this raises the question of where the officials for the sectional sites are coming from, and why the NCAA and the host site wouldn't go out of their way to ensure that they had officiating crews with no prior knowledge of the teams involved.

DPULefty22:

Not to further open this potential can of worms,, but Barbara Fagan reffed in 4 of WLC's in-NAthCon home games during the season, (2 of which I saw in person) so the refs aren't doing just 1 conference.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on March 19, 2008, 07:04:20 AM
It does appear that DPU got a raw deal at Whitewater.  I now realize why Wes was lobbying so hard the week before to not play those games at Whitewater!  Well, let's move on and cheer for the Stormy Petrels this weekend in Salem.  Perhaps D3 can do better with selecting officials for next season.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: vozdelospetrels on March 19, 2008, 09:15:18 AM
The all region teams have been announced, the SCAC has some players in the Great Lakes Region and South Region on those teams. Congrats to all of the ladies. Just off of the top of my head I think he SCAC has 7 players on one of the All Region Teams.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: spfan22 on March 19, 2008, 09:25:05 AM
Making the drive from Atlanta to Holland, MI tomorrow night.. ive flown the last two weekends and just can afford another weekend of flying considering plane tickets are anywhere from 700-1500 dollars.. mapquest says 12 hours and 15 minutes.. however im expecting more like 13-14 hours.. I'll be leaving in plenty of time to make up for any unforseen events along the way..

really excited for the girls and coaches at OU.. this is a very special time for them and win or lose this weekend I know everyone will be so proud of all their hard work and accomplishments.. however, I have a good feeling as I have the last few weeknds

The OU fan club should be a little larger this weekend, as I know a few students are going to be making the trip.. although in a 3200 capacity gym we might not look like we've got more than we usually do..

Congrats to Kulavic on making the all-region team.. congrats to Farrell, Scholbe, Prato-Matthews, and Williams as well for making all-south..  and to the great lakes all-region players in Pruzin and Fernandez
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bubba the Petrel on March 19, 2008, 11:56:46 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 17, 2008, 03:31:53 PM
Quote from: Bubba the Petrel on March 17, 2008, 01:54:37 PM
Quote from: vozdelospetrels on March 10, 2008, 01:49:00 PMBubba - Since you brought up the lack of AJC coverage I figure I'll put in my two cents. The AJC does a terrible job covering any college in this state that is not Georgia Tech or the University of Georgia. The AJC seems to overlook the smaller schools. I don't know why. It's not as if they are a major news publication, they may want to be but they're not. High School athletics, especially football, gets more coverage than the smaller colleges in Georgia. It's a shame.
This weekend's sectional games got no mention in the Saturday or Sunday papers - two lines were devoted to Saturday's win in this morning's AJC.
Anyhoo...
Congrats to the ladies - keep rolling in the Finals!
Which is why the authority on Division III Basketball is D3Hoopscom!    ;)


Indeed.  It would just be nice to pick up the "local" paper the morning after a game and actually see the score listed.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 19, 2008, 12:13:30 PM
I lobied for a few weeks to do a write up in the local paper I write for.  Check out Score Atlanta as it hit stands today.  They gave me 100 words- I struggled to only write 200- and they published less (guess I'll take what I can get)

Here's the link:  http://www.scoreatl.com/SCORE_current_issue.pdf

it's an adobe file and takes a bit to download.  It's on page 7 bottom right corner, and for those who have trouble finding it- here's the excerpt.

I'm really pushing to do a full page article on their incredible run... especially if they win it all.  Guess an intern covering Fulton County High School sports only has so much pull- but every little bit counts.


The following comes from Score
Atlanta reporter Brickford Faucette:
"Oglethorpe University women's basketball
team, in its third straight Division III
NCAA Tournament appearance, shocked
fans last Saturday night by stunning No.
11 Kean College 98-86 behind East
Paulding alumna Anna Findley's 44
points. With the win, the Petrels advance
to the only Final Four in the school's history
for any sport. The Petrels will take on
No. 4 Messiah on the campus of Hope
College in Holland, Mich., this weekend."

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on March 19, 2008, 12:29:52 PM
Quote from: pbrooks3 on March 19, 2008, 07:04:20 AM
It does appear that DPU got a raw deal at Whitewater.  I now realize why Wes was lobbying so hard the week before to not play those games at Whitewater! 

The remarkable thing is that some of folks on the WIAC board don't understand why it's an issue.  They don't see a conflict of interest there.  ???
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 19, 2008, 05:05:36 PM
Quote from: vozdelospetrels on March 19, 2008, 09:15:18 AM
The all region teams have been announced, the SCAC has some players in the Great Lakes Region and South Region on those teams. Congrats to all of the ladies. Just off of the top of my head I think he SCAC has 7 players on one of the All Region Teams.

SCAC places 8

Forgot the West Region- Melanie Auguste a Jr. from Colorado College.   Which is wierd because the SCAC website seems to have left out Katy Williams (the only first teamer from Austin).  Anyways Auguste joins 1st team Katy Williams (AC)  2nd team Kulavic (OU) Scholbe (TU) Pruzin (DU)  3rd Team Prato Matthews (TU)  Fernandez (DU)  and Farrell (RC).  Not a bad showing from the SCAC- I was hoping Findley might squeak on to the 3rd team (16 ppg and Top 20 in the nation in steals- playing for a final 4 team), but there's always next year.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: vozdelospetrels on March 19, 2008, 05:49:02 PM
QuoteSCAC places 8

Forgot the West Region- Melanie Auguste a Jr. from Colorado College. 

Too many regions to sift through, Thanks for the update Fllight.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on March 19, 2008, 08:49:22 PM
spfan22, the trip from Atlanta to Holland is a long car trip, but probably 11.5-12 hours. I'm not sure it's as fast to follow Mapquest's preferred route all the way up I-65 beyond Indianapolis to NW Indiana. If I were making the trip, I'd probably take I-69 from Indianapolis through Ft Wayne north into Michigan and then go west on I-94 to Kalamazoo. Then take Highway 131 North. You can choose one of two ways from here. Go to Grand Rapids and take I-196 to Holland, or short-cut off 131 by taking State Rt 89 northwest to Holland. The I-69 route, while maybe a few miles more, will keep you out greater Chicagoland traffic in NW Indiana; perhaps it will shave a few minutes off the total time.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: spfan22 on March 20, 2008, 09:21:00 AM
pbrooks3, I appreciate the the different routes you've given me.. i was looking at a few different ways to get to Holland.. still havent decided which route to go.. I guess I'll just decide when I get there..

on a side note about the D1 tourney.. being an indiana guy.. im not very happy that the 3 best tourney teams from indiana (in my opinion) are in the same bracket.. big game tonight for Gody and the Irish as they hope to avoid an upset by the cinderella story George Mason team..
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on March 20, 2008, 11:24:05 AM
Quote from: spfan22 on March 20, 2008, 09:21:00 AM
on a side note about the D1 tourney.. being an indiana guy.. im not very happy that the 3 best tourney teams from indiana (in my opinion) are in the same bracket.. big game tonight for Gody and the Irish as they hope to avoid an upset by the cinderella story George Mason team..

Not sure it's going to matter.  I don't think any of the 3 are going to get far enough to see each other.  Particularly my Hoosiers.   :-[
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: spfan22 on March 20, 2008, 03:39:08 PM
I know.. The hoosiers are my team as well.. they have really struggled of late.. hopefully they can get it together and at least get one win in the tourney and maybe scare NC in the second round.. I think Notre Dame probably has the best shot at getting to the sweet sixteen though

anyway.. really looking forward to the OU womens game tomorrow.. the rest of the SCAC wish them luck..
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Hwbb on March 20, 2008, 06:54:33 PM
Anybody driving from Atlanta or the south on Friday, this advice: leave early. Snow is forecast for Friday afternoon from the Indiana border to Holland--normally about a 70-minute drive, but likely tomorrow to be longer and more difficult.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on March 20, 2008, 09:31:11 PM
Speaking of the Hoosiers, did anyone see Vitale the other night goading Bob Knight about returning to Bloomington?  The tv event of the season might be seeing the General explode in the ESPN studio one evening!  Really do hope Oglethorpe pulls out 2 big ones in Holland. Good luck Lady Petrels.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 21, 2008, 05:21:37 PM
Oglethorpe/Messiah on deck:
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 21, 2008, 05:44:09 PM
Messiah 24, Oglethorpe 10   (Just less than halfway thru 1st)
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Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 21, 2008, 06:06:24 PM
Messiah 51, Oglethorpe 33  half
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Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 21, 2008, 06:32:15 PM
Messiah still up 60-43  approx 14 minutes left in 2nd
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Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 21, 2008, 06:54:53 PM
Messiah up 76-56  approx 3 1/2 minutes left in 2nd..
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OUfan22 on March 21, 2008, 09:13:43 PM
OU loses 80-60.  messiah played a good game and made all the big shots ( taking 17 more than OU despite losing the rebounding margin) and we just weren't finishing when we needed it (we only shot like 36% or something)...congrats to them and we'll be coming out tomorrow looking to redeem ourselves
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 21, 2008, 11:23:06 PM
Messiah is good... wouldn't be surprised if they won it all.  Very good coached team and they hit ALL their open shots. Even if OU had played like they had the previous 2 rounds I don't think they would have won- althought it would have been closer.  I think we just lost to this years National Champion.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 22, 2008, 12:30:40 AM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on March 21, 2008, 11:23:06 PM
Messiah is good... wouldn't be surprised if they won it all.  Very good coached team and they hit ALL their open shots. Even if OU had played like they had the previous 2 rounds I don't think they would have won- althought it would have been closer.  I think we just lost to this year's National Champion.
We shall see.

There are two common opponents...Concordia TX and DeSales.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 22, 2008, 03:29:15 PM
Oglethorpe/UW-Whitewater to get underway shortly:
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 22, 2008, 03:37:50 PM
UW-Whitewater 11, Oglethorpe 9  Just less than 15 minutes left in 1st half:
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Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 22, 2008, 03:46:12 PM
Score tied at 16 approx 11 1/2 min left in 1st
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Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 22, 2008, 03:54:21 PM
UW-Whitewater up 28-21  approx 7 1/2 min left in 1st
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Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 22, 2008, 04:01:31 PM
UW-Whitewater 31, Oglethorpe 25  Approx 5 min left 1st half
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 22, 2008, 04:12:27 PM
14-4 rally in the last 5 minutes by OU, OU leads 39-35 at the half.

I think that UWW is vulnerable to OU's athleticism.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 22, 2008, 04:37:20 PM
Stormy Petrels up 46-41  Approx 16 min left in 2nd
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Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 22, 2008, 04:47:52 PM
UW-Whitewater 53, Oglethorpe 50  10 minutes left in 2nd
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 22, 2008, 04:49:20 PM
OU has missed several lay-ups off drives and penetration moves on the last few series.

UWW-W has a 10-0 run to get that lead at 53-50.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 22, 2008, 05:07:10 PM
UW-Whitewater up 10 with just over 3 minutes left:
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Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 22, 2008, 05:16:51 PM
Final:  UW-Whitewater 80, Oglethorpe 67
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on March 22, 2008, 10:00:45 PM
Still a good showing for Oglethorpe making the Final 4. If they get a true post player to work within the nucleus of the existing squad, next year should be promising for OU as well. No one can say that the SCAC doesn't have some quality women's basketball played.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 23, 2008, 10:01:55 AM
Sitting at the airport in Grand Rapids waiting to come back to Atlanta, and I can't wait to get out of this snow.

After watching the talent level of basketball that was played this weekend I can honestly say we have to improve in order to be able compete with these girls again next year.  The girls have had an amazing run and I couldn't be more proud of this team.  Congrats to Oglethorpe's 1 senior Brittany Corbett for a stellar career.  After tearing her ACL her junior she came back for two more years (including her 5th year this season) to try and win a SCAC Championship- while the team came up short she was a huge part in getting this team where they were and she will truely be missed next year.

Congrats Lady Petrels!  Final 4
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 24, 2008, 12:00:55 PM
Congratulations to Katie Kulavic and Cassie Pruzin who were both named D3Hoops 4th team All Americans.

Also with her final 3 point basket of the year Anna Findley broke the Single Season mark for 3's made.  Anna finished the year with 87 breaking the 12 year old mark held by Casey Collins of Hendrix.  She now sits in 5th place with 223 three's made in a career... shouldn't be long before she catche's 1. Nichole Gilleland, Oglethorpe (00/01-03/04) 275.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: spfan22 on March 25, 2008, 12:12:50 AM
OU women had a great year.. i can bet that there's not alot of people who expected them to go as far as they did and beat so many good opponents along the way.. it seemed as if they just ran out of gas.. hats off to Messiah on Friday they played well and executed perfectly.. however I was not very pleased with the officiating on Saturday.. the big girls from UWW just bullied their way around in the paint and never got called for anything.. im pretty sure they would have outrebounded OU by twenty with some solid officiating.. but instead the rebound total was 69-30.. no disrespect to UWW because I thought they were a good team but they obviously benefitted from the way the game was being called.. maybe the officials were still hung over from the previous night (I spotted some officials at an irish pub on Friday night in Holland doing some drinking.. Im being serious by the way)

enough of being bitter.. Depauw finished the year ranked 5th followed by OU at 6th.. i figured this might be the case being that OU didnt play particularly well over the weekend and that 3 of their 7 losses came at the hands of Depauw.. Congrats to both.. that is very good for the SCAC to have two teams ranked in the top 10.. also Trinity played #11 Mcmurry very tough...

Last thing I would like to add.. Corbett from Oglethorpe guarded 4 all-american players along their way to the final four: Thiem from Thomas More, Vespa from William and Smith, Beyruti from Kean, and Lobach from Messiah... she absolutely locked down Theim.. Vespa had a below average game with 6 or 7 turnovers.. Beyruti did score 25.. but many of those points came after the game was pretty much decided and she only shot 8-21.. and Lobach had at best an average game.. she did a great job on all 4 and that would lead me to believe that maybe she deserved a little credit for her defense and maybe should have been considered a strong candidate for defensive player of the year.. her intensity on the defensive end was unmatched and OU will miss her defense and leadership next year..
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 25, 2008, 03:02:15 AM
Quote from: spfan22 on March 25, 2008, 12:12:50 AM
maybe the officials were still hung over from the previous night (I spotted some officials at an irish pub on Friday night in Holland doing some drinking.. Im being serious by the way)

I can vouch for the seriousness of this comment  ;)   

While the team was not the beneficiary of stellar calls at least would it be fair that, because of your celebrity status from the newspaper, you benefited in at least one round? haha
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 25, 2008, 09:27:37 AM
Quote from: spfan22 on March 25, 2008, 12:12:50 AM
OU women had a great year.. i can bet that there's not alot of people who expected them to go as far as they did and beat so many good opponents along the way.. it seemed as if they just ran out of gas.. hats off to Messiah on Friday they played well and executed perfectly.. however I was not very pleased with the officiating on Saturday.. the big girls from UWW just bullied their way around in the paint and never got called for anything.. im pretty sure they would have outrebounded OU by twenty with some solid officiating.. but instead the rebound total was 69-30.. no disrespect to UWW because I thought they were a good team but they obviously benefitted from the way the game was being called..
spfan22,

I am not sure how often you have closely followed a women's team from the South into the Midwest and Great Lakes, but that is a common complaint from us as we go north.

It is actually a common occurrence.  That is an acceptable style of play up there.  An occasional trip to DePauw may not bring that out as dramatically as the Final Four versus a team from the WIAC.

We usually don't have players who can mix it up in the paint that well, and our officials in the South do not become accustomed to that style of play.

I believe that it explains the success of HPU this year.  They were a very physical team.

If OU wishes to win it all, I believe that they must get several posts who can at least defend and score in that system of play.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: spfan22 on March 25, 2008, 12:51:30 PM
Ralph:

I definitely agree that if OU wants to win it all they have to get a post who can dominate the paint... thats definitely what they were missing in comparison to all of the other teams at the final four..  I just hear from every coach and every referee that displacement and hand checking were going to be the emphasis this year in the women's game.. but yet very few hand checks were called and not one displacement foul was called in the consolation game.. if its going to be an emphasis then those calls need to be called throughout the duration of the game..

OU is definitely improving its toughness.. they got thorugh two very tough interior teams on their way to the final four in Thomas More and Kean..  but I just think they ran out of gas.. traveling all over the country and only playing with 6 or 7 players can really take its toll on a team that plays the way OU does.. add to that the lack of displacement and hand check calls and its very tough to beat those teams that were in the final four..

by the way.. after watching Howard Payne in the opening minutes of the first final four game I thought they were a little nervous and didnt play particularly well in the first few minutes.. however the rest of the game and in the championship game they looked great.. they may not be the most talented team.. but I think they have all of the pieces..  and they play absolutely perfect together.. plus they have on of the best one on one players in which teams struggled to guard when the shot clock is winding down..  congrats to HPU.. at least a south team took home the title
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 25, 2008, 03:05:32 PM
I think that OU needs two more large posts to add to the "7-player" rotation to take the pressure of the rotation.  Having a real post allows OU to punish the opponents' posts, and takes that physical job off the "guards" in the rotation.

I can imagine the fatigue might have taken hold by that point in the tourney.

I was happy that we had 3 teams from the South (HPU, OU and DPU -- they don't call it the Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference for nothing).  ;)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on April 11, 2008, 09:02:31 AM
Again, kudos to Coach Sartelle and the Lady Petrels for representing the SCAC so well this season and reaching the final four. I didn't get many chances to see them play this year, but the times I did were fun games to watch. Had the pleasure of meeting the coaches and some of the players at the SCAC tourney in Conway, and I came away impressed with these young ladies - their skills, poise and manners. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Lou_Brown on June 24, 2008, 04:40:07 PM
Congrats to Liz Campbell for getting the Head coaching job at Colorado College..She has done a fantastic job at OU as Sattele's assistant..

Good Luck!!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on September 15, 2008, 09:08:52 PM
Quote from: frank_ezelle on January 26, 2008, 04:18:46 PM
It's a Saturday afternoon and I'm taking a break from working on the Millsaps photos from last Sunday.  You can only crop, edit, enhance, save and delete for so long before your eyes start spinning.  I don't claim to know all the answers or to know the future, but I think I have a reputation on the D3 message boards of being fairly straight forward and honest in my opinions.  With that in mind, here is my opinion on:

The State of Women's Basketball at Millsaps:

Let me start with my conclusion:  I think Millsaps will be a strong contender to win the 2008-09 SCAC championship.  If that strikes you as LOL funny, then I certainly understand you feelings.  When Millsaps beat Sewanee last Sunday, it had been 15 SCAC losses since their previous SCAC win, also over Sewanee, on 1/14/07.  When Millsaps beat Centre on the road last night it was their first SCAC road win since 2/5/06, another win over Sewanee.  This 2-game win streak boosts the Millsaps SCAC record to 6-30 over the last 2 and a half season, hardly a record indicating that a championship season might be on the horizon.

So either I've been drinking, or I have some reasons to back up my conclusion.  I swear I haven't touch a drop of alcohol in days, so let me go back to the beginning of the short Millsaps coaching career of Head Coach Mary Bolton (and let me stress that this is not a comparison of coaches, players or teams from the past vs. the same of today.  This is simply a post about where Millsaps is today, how they got there, and where I think they are headed.)

It's important to remember that Coach Jeffries resigned in May, 2006 and Coach Bolton was hired in August, 2006.  The timing of the change basically meant a year without recruiting players, something that is really evident this season with Millsaps often going into games with only 8 players dressed out.  It's similar to the NCAA penalizing a school by cutting down on the scholarships that can be given out--it creates a trickle down effect that last for several years.

With no chance to recruit, the 2006-07 was played mostly with the players who came back from the 2005-06 season.  Lack of experience characterized that team with just 2 returning starters and the next most experienced players had 138 and 108 minutes of playing time in 2005-06.  There was some talent amongst the inexperienced, with LaReina Adams going from 108 minutes of PT as a freshman to becoming the team's leading scorer and the SCAC's leading rebounder as a sophomore.  Debbie Sturgis went from 72 minutes of PT as a junior to becoming a solid senior starter who had a 24 point, 16 rebound game late in the season.  Still, it was a team with little experience, little depth, and a coach who was trying to put in a different style of play.  Under the circumstance, it's hard to imagine a record much better than the 3-20 that was posted.

That gets us to this year.  With a roster of 10 to start the season, depth is once again a problem.  That roster is now down to 9 and only 8 have dressed out for the last 8 games.  Of the 9 players, 5 players are new to the team (3 freshmen, 2 junior transfers), 3 players played last year, and one redshirted last year with an injury.  This is where the lack of a recruiting class in 2006-07 has really hurt.

With so little depth, the normal things that happen to a team over the course of a season have really hurt and it shows in the record.  Things that have really hurt the win-loss record this year are:
--A freshman recruit enrolled at Millsaps but never played for non-basketball related reasons.  It's not the kind of thing that would hurt an OU, Trinity or DePauw, but those are teams with enough players to actually scrimmage in practice.
--LaReina Adams didn't play to start the season, still rehabbing from knee surgery.  She's just now getting back close to the level of play she showed last year when double-doubles were commonplace.  The 5 Millsaps losses prior to Christmas were all by 9 points or less--a healthy LaReina would have reversed some of those losses.
--Jessica Bowie had a triple-double against OU but she missed the previous 5 games, all losses.  It certainly changes the look of the team when she is not available to play.
--And just in general, not having enough players to scrimmage in practice has to be a problem.  Plus, the lack of subs is often a factor in the last 10 minutes of a game, especially since Millsaps in moving to a more uptempo style of play. 

Even with all of the above problems, it is evident that progress is being made.  The two wins are nice, but just as important is the close game against OU last weekend and the effort against Trinity the previous week.  In one of the games that Bowie missed, Millsaps was within 4 of Trinity with 10 minutes to go.  That hasn't happened very often in recent years.  Millsaps was also within 6 points of local rival Belhaven with a minute to play in a game where LaReina Adams didn't dress out and Crystal Dickerson missed most of the first half with foul trouble.  Millsaps has played a lot of games where just one or two extra players would have turned a loss into a win.

And what does the future hold?  For this year, I won't be surprised if Millsaps misses the SCAC Tournament, but I don't count them out.  Winning at DePauw and Trinity would be very surprising, and winning at Southwestern would be difficult.  Can Millsaps win the 4 home games against Rhodes, Austin, Colorado and Hendrix?  Probably yes to any one of them but winning all four is a tall task.  It's not impossible to win all 4, but that would pleasantly surprise me (remember that I'm trying to give an honest opinion here).

For the 2008-09 season, if they get a recruiting class in like this year's group, then they will be tough to beat since there are no seniors this year.  I hear that the recruiting is going well and I have no reason to doubt that based on what Coach Bolton did in her first year of recruiting.  I have a lot of confidence in the coaching skills of Coach Bolton and her staff based on what I've seen her get out of her players both in 2006-07 and this year.  It gives me hope that Millsaps will soon be returning to the upper level of the SCAC standings, a place they regularly held when the SCAC was first established.

Time will prove me right or prove me wrong.  In the meantime, I guess I need to get back to all of the cropping and editing.  Taking the photos is just the tip of the iceburg when it comes to the finished product.

Yes, it is a little early to be discussing SCAC Women's basketball.  I just wanted to bring this long post forward to start the year since it contained my prediction for 2008-09 regarding Millsaps basketball.  The word I'm hearing is that Millsaps had a very good recruiting year and I'm going to stick with my prediction that Millsaps will be a contender for the SCAC Championship this year.  Obviously that "contender" label applies to several SCAC teams who have the winning records in recent years to justify the label.  Let's just say that I think Millsaps will be in a good position to be a spoiler for sure and a darkhorse to win it all this season.  I'm looking forward to seeing how this season unfolds.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on October 23, 2008, 10:12:17 PM
Looking forward to Lady Colonels basketball in November. Think this could be another season of steady improvement. Centre has some solid recruits that will contribute quickly and should gel effectively with a nucleus of returning players. Junior Chelsea Goodman shouldn't be saddled with handling as much of the scoring and   rebounding load in 2008-09. While I don't project Centre to win the East, they will be more competitive and should have a more balanced season.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bubba the Petrel on October 31, 2008, 08:43:15 AM
Preseason Top 25 out - Oglethorpe #2 (woot!), DePauw #3, Trinity receiving votes.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on October 31, 2008, 02:46:36 PM
Go Lady Petrels!  #2 preseason ranking.  Granted it's where they finish at the end of the season that counts but it's nice to see that others think so highly of our little team.  It's going to be a little different playing with a bullseye on our back instead of sneaking up on people.  It should be a fun season and I can't wait for it to start!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: vozdelospetrels on October 31, 2008, 03:08:45 PM
The #2 ranking is quite an honor, but we better play up to it...and I think we can. Should be fun with some great DePauw and OU battles this year, maybe those will go our way this year.

Very excited to see what coach Liz Campbell can do out at Colorado College. Should be fun. But I'm gonna miss my starting second baseman for coed softball.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on November 03, 2008, 04:38:52 PM
In a league that has the #2 and #3 teams in the preseason poll, it would be too much to expect anyone to believe that a Millsaps team could be a factor in the SCAC Championship race since they finished 4-11 in the SCAC last year.  I'll just say that Millsaps will be tremendously improved this season and I think there is the possibility for them to go from near bottom to the top like the football team did between 2005 and 2006.  That's a tall order is such a talented league and several young players will have to contribute right away.  Here's a link to the team preview:

http://www.millsaps.edu/athletic/basketball-w/2008-09Season_Preview.shtml
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on November 03, 2008, 09:11:58 PM
# 2 is strong!  Has Coach Sartrelle found a presence in the middle to anchor this year's squad? 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on November 04, 2008, 10:35:20 PM
Quote from: pbrooks3 on November 03, 2008, 09:11:58 PM
# 2 is strong!  Has Coach Sartrelle found a presence in the middle to anchor this year's squad? 

Other than 6'3 freshman post Regi Howell coming back from injury Oglethorpe will continue to use its fast paced offense to outscore teams.  We do have about 4 more guards though... so maybe we'll be able to run even more now!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bubba the Petrel on November 07, 2008, 02:47:29 PM
D3Hoops.com Preseason All-Americans:

2nd Team - Katie Kulavic, Oglethorpe (woot!)
3rd Team - Cassie Pruzin, DePauw
Honorable Mention - Melanie Auguste, Colorado College and Krista Prato Matthews, Trinity

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on November 07, 2008, 05:48:49 PM
Quote from: Bubba the Petrel on November 07, 2008, 02:47:29 PM
D3Hoops.com Preseason All-Americans:

2nd Team - Katie Kulavic, Oglethorpe (woot!)
3rd Team - Cassie Pruzin, DePauw
Honorable Mention - Melanie Auguste, Colorado College and Krista Prato Matthews, Trinity



Congrats to Kulavic.  The SCAC was definitely represented well in the preseason rankings- any of these players could be POTY.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on November 08, 2008, 09:02:50 AM
I will predict either Kulavic or Auguste wins POTY in 2008-09. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on November 13, 2008, 04:27:13 AM
One of the things I really like about the new SCAC websites is that you get a different address for the different sections of the website (on the old one the main address always showed as you navigated through the pages).  Here's the link to the SCAC Women's schedule:

http://www.scacsports.com/sports/wbkb/2008-09/schedule

It looks like Millsaps is the only team with two games this weekend, playing two games on a road trip to Atlanta with a Saturday game with Piedmont and a Sunday game at Spelman
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on November 14, 2008, 07:49:39 PM
The preseason SCAC picks for order of finish are out.  While understanding why the Lady Majors are picked to finish 10th, I think that will prove to be far too low:

http://www.scacsports.com/sports/wbkb/2008-09/news/2008-09predictedorderfinish
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on November 15, 2008, 10:02:21 AM
Lady Colonels hit the road this evening for their opening game against Franklin. Centre begins the season with a large group of underclass ladies with talent. Know nothing about the Franklin team, so I have no sense for how this one will go.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on November 15, 2008, 11:14:23 AM
Oglethorpe looked great in the layup lines last night during the "Basketball Madness" to kickoff the season.  They open up the season against Ferrum at 2 p.m. today it what will be a good early season test for the lofty ranked Petrels.  They ladies have a goal to score 100 points so that each fan/student, I'm not sure which, receives a free desert from Hudson Grill.


Quote from: frank_ezelle on November 14, 2008, 07:49:39 PM
The preseason SCAC picks for order of finish are out.  While understanding why the Lady Majors are picked to finish 10th, I think that will prove to be far too low:

http://www.scacsports.com/sports/wbkb/2008-09/news/2008-09predictedorderfinish

Frank, this may be an example just like 3 years ago when Oglethorpe was predicted to finish near the bottom of the conference and surprised us all.  I believe that the #10 finish for Millsaps is also to low and I believe they are more likely to finish around #6.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on November 15, 2008, 04:20:53 PM
No desert  :( but the Petrels did come away with a victory.  Oglethorpe comes away with a 83-65 victory over Ferrum that saw 4 Stormy Petrels Finish in double Figures.   

All-American Katie Kulavic led all scorers with 19 points and 5 reb. (7-10 shooting)
Biz Richmann  16 points and 5 reb.  (7-8 shooting)
Anna Findley 15 pts. 8 reb., 
Tina Grace 14 points. 

Also with a stellar effort was senior Hannah Brooks who filled up the stat sheet with an impressive 8 points, 7 reb. and 6 assists on (4-6 shooting).

Oglethorpe started slow but wound up leading by as many as 22 in the first half.  Ferrum mounted many furious rallies behind Caprise Laws game high 21 points but Oglethorpe remained calm and in control to put the game away late before once again emptying the bench for the final few minutes.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on November 15, 2008, 05:49:54 PM
No desert for Millsaps as well as they lost in OT 81-80 at Piedmont.  Piedmont had the ball out of bounds and trailing by two with 1.5 seconds left in the game and a foul was called on Millsaps and two free throws tied the game.  I have seen the box score but the story says there were a combined 73 turnovers in the game.  That's an area that Millsaps has to improve greatly on this season.

Like last year with the men having several great teams, teams need to think from the very start about the backup plan of getting an at-large bid if they don't get the AQ.  Time will tell if this Millsaps team is good enough for that to even apply, but a very close South Region loss right out of the gate is a tough start.

Link to Piedmont story:  http://www.piedmontlions.com/news/wbball/2008/11/15/11_15_08_wball.asp
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on November 16, 2008, 09:05:20 PM
While they didn't come away with the win I think the performance Millsaps put up against Piedmont (a NCAA tournament team the past 2 years) shows that the Lady Majors are not the same team we're used to beating up on.  Frank you may have something here and everyone in the SCAC would be wise to take notice and not take them lightly.  Oglethorpe takes on that same Piedmont team on Tuesday- that may give us a better idea of what to expect... even though it is extremely early in the season.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on November 18, 2008, 07:03:14 AM
It is very early in the season and I do believe the Millsaps team will have some growing pains early on as they try to mess in a talented group of freshmen with the returning players.  In the box score of the Piedmont game I saw that both teams had 30+ turnovers, a stat that was not unknown to Millsaps last season.  I'm sure Millsaps is planning to push the ball all game this year and they will have turnovers with that style of game, but they will need to cut it down to a reasonable number over the next few weeks.

BTW, I've given you a +1 on karma today both for your support of the OU Women's team and because I notice that you'll be able to give karma after your next post!!!!!  Once you gain this almighty power I hope you'll remember those who supported you on the rise to the top. :D  :D
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on November 18, 2008, 09:29:14 PM
Oglethorpe Blows by Piedmont 91-67!!!

Thanks Frank!  I'm glad my 200th post comes on the heels of another Oglethorpe victory.  This one was over once Piedmont stepped off the bus.  All Oglethorpe needed was for Piedmont to show up and the Victory was all  but ensured.  Oglethorpe was once again led by a balanced scoring attack as 4 players finished in doubles figures and another 2 had 9 points a piece.

Richmann and Grace led all scorers with 13 a piece.  Brooks and Osmanson chipped in 10 points a piece respectively while Kulavic and Reeves also finished with 9 points.  Ari Brown came off the bench and recorded probably her best game to date with 6 points and 9 rebounds in only 13 minutes of action.

Both teams combined for 47 turnovers (compared to the 73 in the Millsaps game) and at points the game resembled a soccer match.  Oglethorpe led by as many as 30 points with 11:23 left and coach Sattele emptied the bench for the remainder of the game around the 10 minute mark.  It was good to see that OU didn't falter when their two offensive stars, Kulavic and Findley, watched most of the game on the bench struggling with foul trouble throughout the game.


Oglethorpe improves to 2-0 in the young season and they will travel to Chicago this weekend to take on Wheaton and Grinell.


How are the rest of the SCAC teams doing in the early going?  Anyone from Trinity or Depauw care to chime in?


http://www.oglethorpe.edu/athletics/
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bubba the Petrel on November 19, 2008, 07:44:40 AM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on November 18, 2008, 09:29:14 PM
Oglethorpe Blows by Piedmont 91-67!!!

The two-line write-up of the game in the AJC this morning lists the final as 71-67.  Typical crackerjack reporting by our local ragsheet.  ::)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on November 20, 2008, 06:27:37 PM
Quote from: pbrooks3 on November 15, 2008, 10:02:21 AM
Lady Colonels hit the road this evening for their opening game against Franklin. Centre begins the season with a large group of underclass ladies with talent. Know nothing about the Franklin team, so I have no sense for how this one will go.
Another one of my posting mistakes.  Lady Colonels actually begin their season tomorrow (Friday, Nov 21) night against Spalding University at home in their local tournament (Country Hearth Inn/Famous Recipe Classic).  They'll follow that up with a second tournament game Saturday afternoon against Greenville College (IL).
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on November 20, 2008, 09:39:13 PM
Oglethorpe travels up North to take on Wheaton and Grinnell this weekend.  Do any other SCAC schools have experience against these two teams to know what Oglethorpe should expect?  Hopefully they can come out of there with 2 wins to help further solidify the reputation of the SCAC when it comes to having great basketball teams.

Also if anyone finds links to live stats or audio could you please post it here as well...
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on November 21, 2008, 11:05:50 AM
To anyone who is interested, the Millsaps at Louisiana College game is scheduled to be webcast by Millsaps with the tipoff at 5:00 Central time.  The link to that is:

http://www.atwsportscast.com/Colleges/Players/Millsaps%20College.htm
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPULefty22 on November 21, 2008, 03:58:04 PM
DPU will be tested right out of the gate in the always-tough WashU-IWU-DPU Rotating Tournament of Doom (it's in St. Louis this year). Tigers open with IWU tonight.

Pruzin, Fernandez, Marshall all back - there are two of your top three scorers and top three rebounders from last year. Katie Mathews shouldn't have any trouble filling Gretchen Haehl's shoes at the point - she's got the best mid-range jumper in the conference.

Have to say I kinda liked seeing the Tigers picked to finish second... Coach Huffman's teams thrive on anything that can possibly be percieved as doubt in their abilities. If I know anything about these Tigers it's that they love proving people wrong.

Will be tough out of the gate though - definately keep an eye on whoever enters that guard rotation behind Mathews-Pruzin. Brianna Frigerio was the only other returning player to get significant PT at guard last year, but there look to be some really good freshman guards.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on November 21, 2008, 06:52:59 PM
Oglethorpe Steamrolls Grinnell  87-60!

The Petrels picked up another win in the Wheaton tournament that again allowed Coach Sattele to rest his starters and get the bench players some much needed experience.  OU was led by Sophomore Ari Brown's 14 points and 8 rebounds as she came off the bench and posted her second consecutive quality performance.  This girl is easily the most improved on the team and you can tell she's worked extremely hard over the summer to get to where she is now.

Oglethorpe takes the court once again tomorrow as they take on the Wheaton/Blackburn winner.  Hopefully the girls will come back with a Stellar 4-0 record.

As always the write up can be found at:  http://www.oglethorpe.edu/athletics/
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 21, 2008, 07:01:51 PM
LaCollege  41, Millsaps 20  at the half.


Thanks, Frank.

I will post updates on the ASC in-game board.  :)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on November 21, 2008, 08:02:49 PM
If anyone has any updates on Centre-Spalding tonight, hope you'll post on the board. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on November 21, 2008, 08:16:48 PM
In similar fashion to last season, the Lady Majors got behind by a large margin and then played fairly even.  As Ralph noted, Millsaps was down 21 at the half and they ended up losing 73-56, a margin of 17 points.  Like Piedmont, LC is probably a fairly good team since they are the preseason 2nd place pick in the ASC East.

The stats at the half showed Millsaps with 14 turnovers, but they also had LC with 11 steals.  I believe the first half turnover total for Millsaps was actually closer to 20, about one for each point they scored.  Considering that Millsaps had 64 turnovers combined in their first two games and very close to a 100 after 3 games, it doesn't take much brainpower to see where their problems begin.

I still believe the Millsaps team has the talent to be a factor in the SCAC race.  Last year they averaged 22 turnovers per game, not great, but certainly better than 33 per game.  Since all of those players are back and with an extra year of experience, I'm thinking that somewhere down the line they will bring themselves back under control.  Playing an uptempo game is the style that Millsaps needs to play, but there is the law of diminishing returns and when you play so fast that you can't play under control, you are getting into the area of diminishing returns.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on November 21, 2008, 08:22:42 PM
Happy days for pbrooks3 as the Centre women lead 55-27 at the half. 

DePauw lost a heartbreaker to Ill. Wesleyan, 77-76.

Hendrix rolled past Westminster, 70-50.

And OU had a laugher with Grinnell, winning 87-60.

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on November 21, 2008, 08:34:09 PM
Thanks Frank for the scores.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on November 21, 2008, 08:47:43 PM
Is the DePauw loss an upset, or am I underselling Illinois Wesleyan?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on November 21, 2008, 09:39:37 PM
Nice opening night win for Centre over Spalding.  A lot of the young players got to see action tonight and several were big contributors.  It will take some time to mesh all of the new players into a cohesive unit.  i see good things coming down the road based on some outstanding recruiting.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on November 21, 2008, 09:55:38 PM
Quote from: pbrooks3 on November 21, 2008, 08:47:43 PM
Is the DePauw loss an upset, or am I underselling Illinois Wesleyan?

Ill Wesleyan is #10 in the preaseason poll and from what I've seen from them the past few years when OU has played them they are a very talented team.  I would have expected DPU to be the favorite, but this seems to be a mild upset... but not too shocking.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on November 22, 2008, 05:53:52 PM
Oglethorpe Explodes on Wheaton 99-68

Four Petrels score in double figures as they improve to 4-0.

Findley has a great all around game with 27 points, 8 rebounds, 5 assists and 3 steals.

Kulavic finished with 20 points, Richmann 16 and Grace 11.

Oglethorpe will be back in action against cross town rival Emory on Tuesday before #3 Depauw comes to town in a most anticipated matchup.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on November 22, 2008, 10:05:04 PM
Nice opening weekend for the Lady Colonels getting two relatively easy wins.  This is great for a young team trying to build chemistry and confidence.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPULefty22 on November 23, 2008, 11:40:11 PM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on November 21, 2008, 09:55:38 PM
Quote from: pbrooks3 on November 21, 2008, 08:47:43 PM
Is the DePauw loss an upset, or am I underselling Illinois Wesleyan?

Ill Wesleyan is #10 in the preaseason poll and from what I've seen from them the past few years when OU has played them they are a very talented team.  I would have expected DPU to be the favorite, but this seems to be a mild upset... but not too shocking.

It should be noted that Jenna Fernandez didn't play this weekend for the Tigers, so DPU was at less than full strength.

Of course, the Fernandez injury gives some other post players a chance for some PT, and freshman Katie Aldrich took advantage in DPU's win over Central - 20 points in 20 minutes! Looks like the Tigers will once again have the depth that's really been their hallmark over the last 5-6 seasons.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on November 24, 2008, 05:36:42 PM
Quote from: DPULefty22 on November 23, 2008, 11:40:11 PM
It should be noted that Jenna Fernandez didn't play this weekend for the Tigers, so DPU was at less than full strength.

Of course, the Fernandez injury gives some other post players a chance for some PT, and freshman Katie Aldrich took advantage in DPU's win over Central - 20 points in 20 minutes! Looks like the Tigers will once again have the depth that's really been their hallmark over the last 5-6 seasons.

That would make a difference... Is Fernandez out for a substantial period of time?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on November 26, 2008, 06:38:12 AM
Millsaps got hammered by Mississippi College Tuesday night, trailing by 10 at the half and losing by somewhere close to 30.  It was my first look at the 2008-09 Lady Majors and I surprisingly came away from the game thinking about baseball.

I wasn't looking forward to the end of basketball and the start of baseball--I was thinking back to the 2008 Millsaps baseball team.  That baseball team was one with high hopes as they came into the season with a combination of a solid returning roster and a talented group of freshmen.  On paper it all looked good; on the field it was a mess for much of the season.  The baseball team finally meshed by the end of the season and just missed out on winning the SCAC Tournament and a berth in the NCAA Tournament.  The key for the Lady Majors this season will be how long it takes to mesh.

The good news is that there is much more talent than last year, but in the short term that increase in talent seems to be the bad news.  Millsaps has 7 returning players from last year.  The average minutes played per game for those individuals were:  35.3, 34.1, 32, 25.5, 23.9, 19.1, and 13.3 minutes per game.  If the freshmen are going to help this team, those numbers have to drop this year for the returning players.  If the freshmen are good enough to start, then 2007-08 starters will have to adjust to coming off the bench.  It's not an easy transition for a team to make.  There is no closer team at Millsaps than the baseball team but when they were dealing with a similar situation last season they lost much of their team spirit and quite honestly, they stunk as a team. 

If everyone pulls together, then this team is going to be really good.  That "everyone" has to be all of the players, the coaches, and it also needs to include the parents and the other fans.  There needs to be one voice of leadership, one common goal, and a sense of unity.  It is simple in theory and often tends to be much more complicated in reality. 

I still have a lot of faith in the potential of this team even though the first 4 games haven't been the greatest of beginnings.  The next 4 games offer an opportunity to right the ship and to prepare for a climb up the SCAC ladder.  The 2006-07 Mens basketball team got off to a slow start and then were one of the best in the SCAC after the Christmas break and one of the best in the country in 2007-08.  The chance is still there for this year's Lady Majors to follow the same course.  Likewise, the chance is unfortunately there that this year's Lady Majors will once again be one of the teams that doesn't make the SCAC Tournament--it would be a real tragedy if that ends up being the case.
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Post by: Ron Boerger on November 29, 2008, 10:38:15 AM
DePauw took (for them) a hard loss in San Antonio last night, losing to Lehman College 65-55.  They shot only 33% for the game but 35% from beyond the arc.  The Tigers drop to 2-2 and while Lehman (a CCNY school) improved to 4-2.   Emily Marshall had 13 in the loss, with Andrea Travelstead the only other DePauw player in double figures with ten.   Both women added 11 rebounds.

Lehman will play Trinity (an easy winner over Schreiner) today in the final D3 contest of this "Trip Sports Shootout."  It's not a tourney, just a bunch of D3 and NAIA teams playing a couple of games over the holiday weekend. 
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Post by: hoopsfan11 on November 29, 2008, 02:40:09 PM
Is the loss of Jenna Fernandez making that big of a difference, or is DePauw down some this year?  Maybe it is just early season fluke losses.  Still looking forward to the OU/DPU matchup next weekend.
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Post by: Ron Boerger on November 29, 2008, 09:26:27 PM
Quote from: hoopsfan11 on November 29, 2008, 02:40:09 PM
Is the loss of Jenna Fernandez making that big of a difference, or is DePauw down some this year?  Maybe it is just early season fluke losses.  Still looking forward to the OU/DPU matchup next weekend.

Losing to a top ten IWU (barely) doesn't seem to indicate a down year, but the loss to Lehman (who Trinity beat by 14 tonight) makes you think DPU will be very happy to get Fernandez back. 

Speaking of Trinity, Danielle Hubenak led the way with 29 (including 7-of-8 from beyond the arc) and 11 boards, Abby Dietert scored 23, and Krista Prato-Matthews added 15 and 14 in tonight's 99-84 win.
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Post by: frank_ezelle on December 01, 2008, 01:25:23 AM
Millsaps looked much better in their game with Rust today than they did against Mississippi College last Tuesday.  Some of that came from playing a much weaker opponent (Rust drops to 0-5), but I thought there was a much better team spirit and unity than what I saw 5 days ago. 

With 10 players dressed out, Coach Bolton had the players divided into two units, each with 3 returning players and 2 freshmen.  Both teams easily outscored the Rust team in a game that ended up with a 86-38 score.  Jessica Bowie played just 19 minutes but got her 2nd career triple-double with 14 points, 12 rebounds, and 10 blocks. 

Link to story:  http://www.millsaps.edu/athletic/basketball-w/113008release.shtml

Link to box score:  http://www.millsaps.edu/athletic/basketball-w/mcw08-05.htm
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopsfan11 on December 02, 2008, 08:35:01 PM
Did anyone see the Oglethorpe/Emory game tonight?  Would love to hear a recap.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on December 02, 2008, 09:37:29 PM
Oglethorpe loses a close one to Emory 85-84

wasn't there but stats say Findley had 23 and Richmann 16.  Heard they didn't play well at all.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on December 05, 2008, 04:10:35 PM
Hope the faithful on this board are excited about the start of SCAC Conference play this weekend.  Millsaps just has the single game with Hendrix on Saturday and I'm glad we are starting off with a one game weekend instead of the normal two games.  Millsaps will improve as the season goes along so I think they'll be better prepared for road trips and long weekends after the Christmas break.

I'm editing photos this afternoon from the game with Rust College.  Jumping center to start the game for Millsaps was Janice Okeke (pictured below), a freshman from Jackson Murrah.  Murrah High School spent time last season in the national top 10 and maybe the top spot in the South.  Janice was counted on mostly for defense and rebounding but I think she'll turn into quite a scorer at some point this season.  From the very little that I've seen, I think she has the potential to be for the women's team the type of talent Edrick Montgomery was for the men's team in recent years.  Time will tell if that becomes a reality.
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Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on December 05, 2008, 04:40:18 PM
A big chance for the Centre women to get off to a nice start in the SCAC with their league opener tonight at Sewanee.  This is my first look at the girls this season, and I am looking forward to seeing how the freshmen produce.   
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Post by: pbrooks3 on December 05, 2008, 09:51:13 PM
Centre leads 34-24 at the half. Like the fast pace the Lady Colonels are employing to get turnovers and easy hoops.
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Post by: pbrooks3 on December 05, 2008, 10:42:34 PM
Rebecca Rhule hits a 2-pointer with 12 seconds to play to lead Centre to a win 52-50.
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Post by: Ron Boerger on December 05, 2008, 11:37:25 PM
Trinity shook off a sub-par first half to squeeze past Colorado College 70-65.  Krista Prato-Matthews led the way with 20 points (9-14 shooting) and 12 rebounds.  The hosts held a 30-18 lead at the break before the Tigers stormed back in the second half.   Melanie Auguste led all players with 30 points and 14 boards in a losing effort. 

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on December 06, 2008, 12:53:19 AM
Quote from: pbrooks3 on December 05, 2008, 10:42:34 PM
Rebecca Rhule hits a 2-pointer with 12 seconds to play to lead Centre to a win 52-50.


Quote from: pbrooks3 on December 05, 2008, 10:42:34 PM
Rebecca Rhule hits a 2-pointer with 12 seconds to play to lead Centre to a win 52-50.

This was a wild end to a game that looked like the Centre Girls had under control going into halftime.  The Sewanee Women came out of the locker room in the 2nd half ready to bang with Centre and control the pace of the game.  And they succeeded by erasing the 10-point Centre lead in less than 6 minutes.  From the 14 minute mark on, it was a nip and tuck game with neither team assuming total control.  It also was not pretty on offense.  However, the Colonels never quit.  They'd get down 2 or 3 and then make a key basket to even the match.

We saw a stellar game from junior Chelsea Goodman, and nice contributions from a host of other players including the dagger from Rebecca Rhule when it mattered most.  Centre finally has an athletic post player that can run with the wings and guards.  There was a period midway through the 1st half where's Centre's team reminded me of the Oglethorpe women defending, causing turnovers and converting easy hoops.

This was a nice opening SCAC road win, and it should help the younger players build  confidence.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on December 07, 2008, 02:53:10 PM
OU up at the break 47-39. Centre is making a game of it, having actually led double-digits in the opening 10 minutes. The final 10 minutes were ragged by both squads with  Oglethorpe pulling away in the last 4 minutes.
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Post by: Ron Boerger on December 07, 2008, 07:01:13 PM
Trinity slips past Austin College 77-71.  Once again, Krista Prato-Matthews led the way for the Tigers with 25 points and 14 rebounds (6 offensive).  Katy Willliams had 21 points, 9 rebounds, and 6 assists to pace AC. 
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Post by: pbrooks3 on December 08, 2008, 08:21:53 AM
Centre women posted a nice accounting for themselves at Oglethorpe on Sunday losing 83-67. They scrapped to the very end against a veteran team. The Lady Colonels have a chance to surprise some teams this year, and they have an exciting cast of young talent. Coach Austin-Robinson is playing lots of players, and they are entertaining to watch in their fast-paced style of play. This team is capable of competing every night.
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Post by: jekelish on December 08, 2008, 09:29:53 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on December 07, 2008, 07:01:13 PM
Trinity slips past Austin College 77-71.  Once again, Krista Prato-Matthews led the way for the Tigers with 25 points and 14 rebounds (6 offensive).  Katy Willliams had 21 points, 9 rebounds, and 6 assists to pace AC. 

Prato-Matthews definitely carried Trinity down the stretch, but I'd say for the first 25 or so minutes it was all about Hubenak for the Tigers.  She dominated the early part of the game.

It was a good battle between two of the best posts in the league though in Prato-Matthews and Williams.  And I'll tell you what, AC's point guard Amber Stafford is one tough little ballplayer.  She doesn't back down from anyone and steps up to hit some big shots for the 'Roos.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on December 08, 2008, 07:02:07 PM
I'm curious what the crowds have been like with the men playing first and the women second.  I heard the OU halftime interview with Dwayne Hanberry regarding this matter.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe he said the coaches voted 20-4 to have the women play first and the men second and the Presidents overruled in favor of the more politically correct route of flip-flopping the rotation each year.

At Millsaps Saturday afternoon the women's game was a great one with Millsaps pulling out an overtime victory.  Last year there would have been a fairly nice crowd for the end of the women's game with people coming to catch some of the women's game and all of the men's game.  Unfortunately, most of the crowd had left by the end of the women's game with this new setup.

To be fair, the Florida-Alabama football game started at the same time as the women's game.  However, I fear that we are going to see a Bell curve on attendance this year with a peak at the end of the men's game and then a steady drop off from the start of the women's game until the end. 
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Post by: jekelish on December 08, 2008, 07:12:04 PM
Through two men/women doubleheaders at AC, pretty much half the crowd has disappeared after the men's game.
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Post by: pbrooks3 on December 08, 2008, 08:09:18 PM
I believe it was a bit different from Friday to Sunday. Friday at Sewanee perhaps 75-85% of the crowd stayed for at least the first 20 minutes of the girl's game. Percentages weren't as high at OU Sunday afternoon. Of course, boys' families from the traveling team were focused more on getting on the road so numbers were lower for the Girls game.  Those who chose to stay Friday night for the 2nd half of the womens action saw an exciting finish at Sewanee. No doubt that was the case at Oglethorpe Friday night too.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 08, 2008, 08:53:44 PM
Let's look at this from a different point of view.

Watching two games takes about 5 hours out of your day from start to finish.

(We golfers get really frustrated at about 4 hrs 10 minutes for 18-holes.)

If the women start first, then you can arrive at halftime, catch the second half of their game.  Catch the first half of the men's game and then stay as late as you need.  In any case, are fans likely to spend more than 3 hours at the game?

A big politically incorrect NO!

But that is the reality of it!

How do you schedule the game to offer the biggest entertainment value for the time that fans are willing to spend on this form of leisure activity?

(And I am a huge women's fan!   :-\  )
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on December 08, 2008, 09:20:54 PM
At AC, it's been the student crowd that has significantly thinned out for the second game.  However, there are potential reasons:

First game was on a Friday night.  College kids are unlikely to stick around from 6 to 10 on a Friday night.  They just aren't going to do it when there are parties to go to.

Second game, this Sunday, happened to coincide with the Cowboys game.  I have to think that had something to do with the crowd thinning out so much.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on December 08, 2008, 10:23:17 PM
Ralph's comments are certainly true about the time on the golf course - one of my big complaints about the game as a whole. Other major sporting events I would tend to agree that 3 hours is about it.  D3 in the SCAC has a variety of factors affecting attendance. Hometown support for a D3 team may fall in line with  Ralph's thesis. However, who are the real fans of the SCAC?  Probably parents, extended family, the student body, alumni and various administrators and faculty of the school(s). Some of these folks may frequently make it a doubleheader. It's generally possible to wrap 2 SCAC games into the time it takes for a pro sporting event like baseball, hockey or football. I have certainly witnessed D3 sporting on a larger scale attendance-wise (i.e. Wooster) than the SCAC. Sewanee can hardly be compared to a Wooster.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on December 14, 2008, 12:51:58 PM
Ralph, you and I and apparently the vast majority of the coaches have the save viewpoint:

That's the reality of it.

In my case I'm going to be at both games from start to finish on the days when both teams play.  It makes for a very long day when I'm taking photographs and I suspect it makes for a longer day when a person is just there as a fan.  I'll find out this afternoon because I'm not taking my camera to the games. 

According to the Millsaps website, today's basketball games will be webcast.  That would be the women vs. Piedmont at 1 Central time and the men playing against LaGrange at 3.  You have to know where to look to find that information on the Millsaps website and finding the link to the webcast can be even harder.  Here's the link:

http://www.atwsportscast.com/Colleges/Millsaps%20College.htm
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 14, 2008, 02:25:10 PM
Frank, as a player, I would rather see fans trickle into the gym as the game progresses than to see the crowds dwindle as the game goes on!

Put the women first and then follow with the men.

Let the women experience the growing numbers rather than the dwindling crowd!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on December 14, 2008, 07:19:44 PM
Well today the women did play first and there was a pretty good crowd from start to finish considering that most of the students have gone home for the Christmas break.  In a game that was close throughout, Millsaps pulled out an 81-74 win over Piedmont in the closing couple of minutes.  The win in the third in a row for Millsaps and it evens their record at 4-4.

One can look at the Millsaps team so far and see the glass as half empty or half full.  I choose to see the half full.  I believe the talent is there but there have been bumps in the road from trying to mesh the experienced with the unexperienced on the roster.  The 2006-07 Millsaps men were 4-5 prior to Christmas and went 14-4 over the rest of the season.  That would be a hard feat to duplicate but I could see the possibility.  Then again, if there are injuries and things don't mesh, it might be hard to stay at .500 the rest of the way. 

Here's the box score from today's game where Piedmont shot much better than Millsaps but Millsaps won the battle of the boards and limiting turnovers:

http://www.millsaps.edu/athletic/basketball-w/mcw08-07.htm
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on December 14, 2008, 11:17:58 PM
It's always been my intention when attending SCAC games that I see both the mens and womens games regardless of game order.  I, too, think the women will benefit more overall on attendance when their games are played first. 
 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on December 15, 2008, 07:46:26 PM
Millsaps wrapped up the 2008 part of their schedule this evening with a 73-67 victory at Rust College this evening.  It was a different story from the easy 86-38 victory posted by Millsaps in Jackson on November 30th.  Millsaps trailed at the half by 5, took a quick lead early in the second half and the game went back and forth the rest of the way.

According to the webcast, freshman Janice Okeke led the Lady Majors with 23 points and I think that 17 or 19 of those came in the second half.  Senior LaReina Adams was right behind with 22 and freshman Olivia Coats was also in double figures with 12.
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Post by: frank_ezelle on December 16, 2008, 05:17:18 PM
Regarding the Millsaps at Rust game last night:

Link to story:  http://www.millsaps.edu/athletic/basketball-w/121508release.shtml

Box score:  http://www.millsaps.edu/athletic/basketball-w/mcw08-08.htm

Freshman Janice Okeke followed up a 4 point, 2 rebound first half with 19 points and 10 rebounds in the second half.  I compared her in an earlier post to Edrick Montgomery but she really reminds me more of an earlier Millsaps men's star, Thomas Adams who played center in the late 90's and early 2000's.  I remember Thomas' freshman year when he would look great at times but he also had stretches where he struggled.  The consistency started coming in the middle of the season and I think that will happen with Janice. 

Consistency is what the entire Millsaps team needs to find.  I continue to believe that the talent is there for a very successful season.  The first 8 games resulted in a 5-3 record and most importantly, a 1-0 record in the SCAC.  The competition will be stiffer once league play starts so they'll have to play better if they want to have a winning record for the 11 games in January.  After that it is 6 games and the SCAC Tournament in February.  Barring any serious injuries, they could be a tough team to beat during that last stretch.  I'm still looking at the glass as being half full at this point in the season.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on December 17, 2008, 09:54:23 PM
Centre Women go to 5-4 with a 64-48 win over Mt. St. Joseph tonight.  Lauren Huter led the Lady Colonels with 19 pts and 9 rebounds.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scaccommish on December 19, 2008, 03:39:51 PM
We just opened the door on another new area of the SCAC website - SCAC Interactive.

We will use this area to blog from championship events as well as post pictures and video. Also, we plan on a weekly (or bi-weekly podcast), featuring interviews with student-athletes and coaches.

To check out the inaugural podcast, click this link:

http://www.scacsports.com/inside_athletics/interactive (http://www.scacsports.com/inside_athletics/interactive)
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Post by: petrel23 on December 22, 2008, 05:24:23 PM
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Post by: FlightofthePetrel on December 25, 2008, 12:22:51 AM
Petrel23,

Good to see you actually posting now but words do a little better than a row of smiley faces.  +1 for you for supporting the Lady Petrels though... hope to see you at a game soon.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on December 29, 2008, 09:38:49 PM
Two nice victories at the DePauw Classic for Centre during the holiday weekend with wins over Trine and Spalding.  Centre Women will return to SCAC play next weekend against DePauw with a 7-4 record.
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Post by: Ron Boerger on December 30, 2008, 12:07:06 AM
The news from San Antonio is not so good as Trinity (7-2) fell to Baldwin-Wallace (5-5), 72-57.  The Tigers allowed BW to roam virtually at will inside and could not keep their opponents off the boards when they did miss from close in.   Trinity also appeared to be shorthanded, dressing only ten players with only eight seeing action (the other two did not even take off their warmups).   BW substituted liberally all night and wore Trinity down as the night progressed. 

Ariel Brough had 18 and 10 to lead the victors; Trinity got 14 from Abby Dietert and Krista Prato-Matthews, who unfortunately missed a number of layups she'd normally hit in the loss.  Prato-Matthews added 12 rebounds.

Trinity will face #16 Southern Maine in the finale tomorrow night - with Southern Maine having been upset by UMHB in the first game tonight.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 30, 2008, 01:02:17 AM
Nice win by the Lady Cru!

Helps the ASC!  :)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OUfan22 on December 30, 2008, 03:44:41 PM
Good win for OU yesterday against Thomas Moore! Not much commentary is needed as the story on d3hoops.com says it all...ridiculous shooting from Kulavic and Findley...I have to add that I've never wanted to chuck my water bottle at the refs so bad...Im glad they didnt let the refs get the best of them...looking foward to more conference games
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 30, 2008, 11:01:40 PM
Trinity lost to Southern Maine tonight, 79-67.  It was a four point game with 5:08 left but the Tiger women were outscored 11-2 down the stretch.  Danielle Hubenak led the way with 27 before fouling out, including 6-of-8 from beyond the arc bu
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Walter17 on December 31, 2008, 01:12:37 PM
It looked like the Trinity women had a rough return from the Holiday Break.  Hopefully, they can pick it up this weekend as conference starts back up with Millsaps and Hendrix coming into San Antonio.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on January 01, 2009, 07:23:10 AM
Millsaps is a little bit of a mystery team at the moment so the game with Trinity will be interesting.  I'm sure the Trinity game plan will be to pressure Millsaps to create turnovers.  That's what everyone did last year with good success so it's what one would expect until Millsaps shows that it can handle the pressure.

Millsaps can be very strong in the paint and on the boards, an area that Trinity apparently struggled with a couple of games back (I'm going by Ron's report).  Millsaps is 5-3 right now with the losses coming in the opening 4 game road swing to start the season.  I saw the Nov. 25th loss to MS College (99-70) and Millsaps didn't look very good at all.  They have looked better since that time, winning 4 straight including a victory over Hendrix.  That win came at Millsaps and now the Lady Majors need to prove that they can beat a good team on the road. 

The impartial observer would have to look at Trinity's 30-point and 14-point wins over Millsaps from last season, plus the caliber of wins this current year and conclude that Trinity is a heavy favorite this Friday.  That's a fair evaluation.  I do think Millsaps has played well enough in stretches of games this year to be competitive with anyone in the SCAC.  Now what they need to do is play at that level more consistently throughout a game.  When they find that consistency, they will become a very good team.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 02, 2009, 06:37:15 PM
I'm headed to Rhodes tonight to see how the Lynx respond to the OU Women. Rhodes has competed well so far this season. In many respects, Rhodes is more balanced this season with Ashley Farrell having graduated. Oglethorpe will be a tough match-up.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 02, 2009, 09:37:16 PM
A competitive opening 20 minutes - 35-31 Rhodes. Rhodes has perfected the dribble drive and McGill has 12 on a range of short jumpers and layups. Kristin Lyle has played outstanding with 14 and a couple of 3s. OU's Kuvalic has struggled with 5 turnovers and 1 basket. Look for OU to bring out some zone in the next 20 minutes.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 02, 2009, 10:09:04 PM
55-55 with 9:40 to play.
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Post by: pbrooks3 on January 02, 2009, 10:22:14 PM
Oglethorpe is up 68-65 with 3:37 to play. McGill has willed her team to keep them in the game.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 02, 2009, 10:30:45 PM
Rhodes gave it a good go - Oglethorpe prevails in the end 77-67. Anna Findley scored 31 for OU. McGill had 19 for the Lynx with Lytle chipping in with 16. OU simply wore Rhodes down in last 4-5 minutes.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on January 02, 2009, 10:33:16 PM
I had hope that this would be the night that the Millsaps ladies put it all together and played well against a good team on the road.  It's hard to tell just how well a team played when looking at the live stats, but Trinity took a 10-point lead at the half (39-29), had Millsaps cut that lead to 5 on a couple of occasions early in the second, and then Trinity pulled away for a 79-62 win.  

It is a better showing than last year when Millsaps lost by 30, but I suspect the Lady Majors went to San Antonio looking for an upset and at the very least a closer game than this final.  It will still be a good road trip if they bounce back and win on Sunday.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 03, 2009, 12:41:27 AM
Tonight was the 1st good look I've had at Rhodes this season. I came away impressed with what I saw. They truly hung with Oglethorpe through 35 minutes. They've got a nice blend of old and new in the lineup with veterans' Kristin Lytle and Becky Atnip, and a good crop of freshmen. It was fun to see the dribble drive efforts of Atnip and McGill against the tough man-to-man defense of OU. They used superior quickness to get some easy baskets, particularly in the 1st half. Their quickness in the backcourt helped create several turnovers leading to baskets that helped them control the opening half. Coach Dean has an exciting young squad and they should be tough to beat on the homecourt this season. This group meshes better than last year's squad, and they've got youth and skill combined that should make Rhodes a more consistent winner over the next few seasons.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 03, 2009, 05:54:03 PM
Austin College goes for 91 and hits 55% from deep in a blowout win over Colorado College today.  Maegan Fitzgerald was 5-of-7 and had 21 points for the 'Roos and Katy Williams had 15 and 13.  Melanie Auguste had 26, 7 and 7 in the loss.  The 'Roos were up by as much as 27 in the second half before emptying the bench.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 03, 2009, 09:26:25 PM
Hendrix 34, Trinity 34, 3:01 left in the half.


TU 40 - 35 at the half.


TU 57 HC 43 13:54 left.  TU is pulling away.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 03, 2009, 10:23:50 PM
Hendrix fans, I guess you must consider it a sign of respect.

TU Post Krista PratoMatthews is still in the game, up 84-71 with 1 minute left.

She has 37 points and 14 rebs.

Correction -- She has 39 points, on a couple of free throws with 0:41 left.

Final -- TU 90, Hendrix 76.



TU's Dietert played 34 minutes, PratoMatthews 36, Hubenak 38 minutes.

You pushed them hard.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on January 04, 2009, 01:04:23 PM
I don't believe the SCAC website is showing this link, but the Millsaps-Southwestern games should have a gametracker during the game.  You see the link on this Southwestern page:

http://southwesternpirates.cstv.com/
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on January 04, 2009, 04:40:29 PM
Apparently Southwestern isn't doing Gametracker for the Women's game.  The men's game worked fine and it ended about an hour ago.  The women's game says that it is pregame and will start after the opening tip, but they are probably approaching halftime by now.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 04, 2009, 04:51:43 PM
A bit of a surprise at half - Rhodes and Sewanee are knotted at 31-31. Sewanee's zone defense has slowed Rhodes. The Lady Lynx began to figure things out late in the half and began getting wing passes into the post for easy hoops. Backup post, Pate has 10 points for Rhodes.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 04, 2009, 05:30:50 PM
This one is still close at the 4:20 mark - Rhodes 48-46.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 04, 2009, 06:17:49 PM
Rhodes pulled this one out in the last 10 seconds, 57-56. The Lady Lynx were down 5 with a minute remaining, and got it down to a 3 point game with 18 ticks on the clock when Becky Atnip got fouled. She made the first free throw and missed the second, getting her own rebound. She swung the ball around and took a pass back on the right wing of the court and swished a three-pointer for the winning basket with about 10 seconds left. Sewanee launched a desperation shot to no avail.

Rhodes didn't play particularly well, but managed to play better defense in the second half, when they pressed full-court much of the half. This pressure took Sewanee out of their comfort zone. The pressure didn't generate tons of turnovers but it slowed Sewanee down and forced them to struggle with the shot clock a good deal. Rhodes took what appeared to be a commanding lead by 7-9 points with less than eight minutes to go. Give credit to Sewanee - they made a few baskets, got some stops and made free throws down the stretch to strongly contend for a win. I've seen 2 Sewanee games this year. Both times, they've lost by a single point.

Pate scored 14 for Rhodes, with Lytle and McGill scoring double-figures, too.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 04, 2009, 06:24:11 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 03, 2009, 10:23:50 PM
TU's Dietert played 34 minutes, PratoMatthews 36, Hubenak 38 minutes.

You pushed them hard.

While I'm not going to dispute the assertion, Ralph, based on what I saw last week Trinity doesn't have a deep bench this year.  I went to the web site after those games and they only have 12 players listed - and only eight are seeing more than seven minutes per game.   They play at Southwestern Friday so I'll have to go have a look, plus SW and TU always play each other well regardless of the records.  

This is by far the youngest TU women's squad I can remember.  Five first years, five sophomores, and only a single junior and senior (Prato-Matthews). 

Prato-Matthews' 39 are the most points by a Tiger woman since 1995 per the game story (http://www.trinity.edu/departments/athletics/WBasketball/Recap/08-09/TU-HC.htm) (thanks, Justin!).
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 04, 2009, 06:41:50 PM
Thanks, Ron.  I appreciate the assessment.

I think that TU has the top talent to persevere in the SCAC tourney, if they get a favorable matchup against Oglethorpe and DePauw.

If TU wins the Pool A bid, then TU will probably get sent to the ASC Pool A bid, (altho' BWC and Southern Maine were not in-region.)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on January 06, 2009, 10:44:51 PM
I've been searching the new SCAC Website for some time and have yet to come across the section (for both me and women) showing the current up to date 1,000 point scorers and players who have reached the 500 rebound club.  I went through and added up some numbers and OU's Kulavic has 1,646 point and is nearing in on breaking the conference scoring record.  OU has also had 4 players recently join the 500 rebound club, it would be nice to see where they stand in the history of the SCAC.

Does anyone know where to find this information?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 07, 2009, 12:12:34 AM
Click the SCAC Record Book link.  I found the men's 1000 pt scorers on p 80 of the Men's Basketball record book (under the Winter Sports section), the women's are probably there a well.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scaccommish on January 08, 2009, 10:05:13 AM
The latest SCAC podcast is available at:

http://www.scacsports.blogspot.com/ (http://www.scacsports.blogspot.com/)

This week's edition includes recaps of games that were played over the holiday break in addition to interviews with Oglethorpe women's head coach Ron Sattele, senior post Krista Prato Matthews of Trinity, senior guard Mike Moore of DePauw and Trinity men's head coach Pat Cunningham.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on January 08, 2009, 11:03:08 AM
Here is the link to the Maryville Daily Times story on Oglethorpe's win at Maryville.

http://thedailytimes.com/article/20090108/SPORTS/901079898

OU looked pretty good...they are very well coached, move the ball, play serious and effective defense, and can shoot from outside.  All Maryville needed was more players and someone to score from outside! 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on January 08, 2009, 02:38:26 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on January 07, 2009, 12:12:34 AM
Click the SCAC Record Book link.  I found the men's 1000 pt scorers on p 80 of the Men's Basketball record book (under the Winter Sports section), the women's are probably there a well.

I found that but there used to be a page that kept up to date records of the 1,000 point and 500 rebound club, separate from the record book that is only up to date with last years statistics...
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 08, 2009, 03:46:45 PM
send a pm to scacsid here or contact the SCAC site owners.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 09, 2009, 09:52:35 PM
 ;D Good win for Lady Colonels over Rhodes 59-42 according the SCAC website.  Hope this is correct!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 10, 2009, 12:52:46 AM
Ugly 57-48 win (but a win nonetheless) for Trinity at Southwestern.  Both Krista Prato-Matthews for Trinity and Natasha Azizi of Southwestern picked up two quick fouls early.  The teams struggled to get anything going offensively as the teams' respective stalwarts sat out two-thirds of the first half.   They both picked up third fouls relatively early in the second half, too.  It was a very choppy game both ways.

Trinity ended up shooting 25% on the night, but had a 52-38 rebounding edge and a 40-16 edge from the line (with some of those being of the foul to try and catch up variety).

Azizi had 15 before fouling out late to lead the Lady Pirates, Danielle Hubenak had 16 for Trinity.  Prato-Matthews, visibly frustrated at times, was held to 11 pts and 10 boards.  Southwestern has some size with several ladies 6-foot plus and that caused problems inside for TU.  Oddly, though, it didn't help the rebounding battle.


Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on January 12, 2009, 05:42:53 AM
Millsaps lost a golden opportunity to go to 4-1 in SCAC play by giving up a 17 point lead over the last 9 minutes of the game and eventually losing in OT to Colorado.  It looked like one of those typical situations where one team relaxes just a little down the home stretch, the other team picks it up just a notch, momentum shifts, and a big lead is lost.  I saw big swings like this in 3 of the 4 games at Millsaps this weekend.

In the men's game against Austin, Millsaps trailed by 15 at the half and was leading by 1 with about 5 minutes to go.  Against the Colorado College team, Millsaps trailed by 4 early in the second half and went on to win by 16.  I can remember games last year where the Millsaps women would be down 20 at the half and maybe they would come back to only lose by 2.  As long as there are more than 5 minutes to go on the clock, a big lead is not a guaranteed victory.

One bright spot about the Millsaps team Sunday was that for 31 minutes they really played great.  They looked like the team I was expecting to see when the season started, maybe too high an expectation on my part as they work to blend the veteran players with the newcomers.  Millsaps shot 40% for the game despite hitting only 4 of 19 over the last 14 minutes.  They played with speed the entire game and only had 18 turnovers, a marked improvement from the start of the season.  They had 25 assists in the game, an indication of far better teamwork than earlier in the season.  Admittedly, the collapse was rather dramatic, but the rise before the fall was something that can be built on in games to come starting with the game against Dallas this Tuesday.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 12, 2009, 01:12:41 PM
Centre Girls took advantage of the homecourt this weekend to chalk up two more wins.  Of course, with the exception of the games against DPU and OU, the Lady Colonels have not faced the strength of the SCAC schedule.  They'll have return games against both DPU & OU at home, along with a major challenge against Trinity at Alumni.  It would be exciting indeed to see if the ladies can play giant-killer against one of these stellar opponents.  They are gaining confidence as they continue to win games, and the freshmen who are playing regularly are a big reason for the 9-5 start.  Keep up the nice work, ladies.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 13, 2009, 04:03:59 PM
Congratulations to Trinity's Krista Prato Matthews who earlier this month set the SCAC all-time rebounding record (http://www.scacsports.com/sports/wbkb/2008-09/news/matthews_rebound_record) in a 16-rebound performance against Millsaps. 

ooh, look, my 4000th post. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on January 13, 2009, 11:09:34 PM
Millsaps bounced back with a 61-48 win tonight over Dallas after falling to the big Colorado comeback on Sunday.  Tiffany Whitmore led Millsaps with a 19 point night and I'll post the box score link so you can see how everyone else did this evening. 

I will say that there is one number that stood out in the box score and it both surprises me and worries me as a Millsaps fan:  Dallas had 50 rebounds (21 offensive) and Millsaps only had 32.  This is the 4th straight game that Millsaps has been outrebounded and I thought that would be a strength of this team.  Tonight it seemed to be a case of waiting to see what was going to happen and then reacting instead of anticipating was was going to happen and moving early.  Maybe it was something else, but I would have never thought a 3-13 team like Dallas would outrebound Millsaps by 18.  If OU and Sewanee do that then it will be a long road trip this weekend.

Link to box score:  http://www.millsaps.edu/athletic/basketball-w/mcw08-14.htm
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 14, 2009, 10:27:05 PM
Frank, it will be a tough stopover at Oglethorpe this weekend, I agree.  Millsaps has a chance to spring a win at Sewanee.  Millsaps will have to play hard and not quit.  I've seen the Sewanee girls lose 2 tough ones this year, one at home.  The Tigers will come at you for 40 minutes, but they don't have tons of talent or depth.  They may be spilling oil a bit, and this weekend could be a MAJOR opportunity to gain a road win.  That was pretty bad I admit! 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: repete on January 16, 2009, 10:20:55 AM
Not a regular poster here so apologies if this is already elsewhere about Hunter ...

http://www.startribune.com/sports/gophers/37706929.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUUr (http://www.startribune.com/sports/gophers/37706929.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUUr)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 16, 2009, 12:35:54 PM
Cool, thanks for the link, repete.  +1
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 16, 2009, 09:10:58 PM
A surprising 38-31 lead for Austin over Depauw five minutes into the second half.  The DPU women have already turned it over 13 times.

BSC out to an early 12-2 lead over Trinity after about five minutes - ouch.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on January 16, 2009, 09:37:09 PM
For the second time this year, the live stats work great for the men's game and then the SCAC host school apparently doesn't bother to keep the stats for the ladies.  Maybe there's a good explanation at Sewanee like the entire internet froze up because it's something like 0 degrees there, but it sure seems like the women are becoming an afterthought now that they are playing after the men.  By my recollection, the coaches in the league voted 20-4 to have the women play first and the league presidents overruled.  In my opinion, the coaches were thinking in the real world and they had it right.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 16, 2009, 09:44:31 PM
Trinity has fought back to trail 35-34 at the half in Birmingham.   BSC is trying to win with the long ball - 18 3FGA (7 3FG) to only 14 2FGA (6 2FG)

Looks like Austin's effort to upset DePauw is going to go for naught as two 'Roo starters have fouled out and DPU has taken their largest lead of the night, 54-50, with under a minute left.  Update:  DPU 56, AC 52, final. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 16, 2009, 10:11:28 PM
Good point about the girls feeling slighted. When the boys finished at Rhodes tonight the gym cleared out. The girls have about 1/3 the crowd the boys had earlier.

Rhodes ladies are up at the half 32-23. Coach Dean did a nice job of mixing defenses in the final 10 minutes of the half which helped neutralize the Pirates' big frontcourt. An occasional press helped get some turnovers, too. Rhodes is definitely frustrating Azizi - she's got 1 basket and only 4 points. Rhodes is getting good post play from freshman Jenilee Pate who has 10 points.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on January 16, 2009, 10:47:25 PM
I sent an email at 8:46 to the Sewanee SID asking about the lack of live stats and at about 8:56 the live stats came up just in time for the start of the second half.  Maybe that's just coincidence. 

Over the course of several years I don't remember a single time when the live stats worked for the women's game and then were fouled up when the men took the court for the second game of the night.  I believe it was at Southwestern earlier in the year that the live stats weren't provided for the women after they worked fine for the men, and now this at Sewanee.  Coincidence maybe, but you have to wonder if there's more to the story.

By the way, the Millsaps women beat Sewanee 52-44.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 16, 2009, 10:48:31 PM
Behind 17 points and 14 rebounds by Krista Prato-Matthews and 16 points from Ali Marzella, Trinity defeats Birmingham-Southern 76-67.  Danielle Hubenek added 11 points and 8 assists.  

BSC was led by Courtney Gibson's 17 (5-of-8 from beyond the arc).  
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 16, 2009, 11:36:59 PM
Rhodes got a solid win 68-58 tonight with balanced play. Kristin Lytle led the way with 17. The Lady Lynx played exceptional basketball during the middle 20 minutes of the game.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 17, 2009, 12:50:32 PM
Tough loss for Centre last night to a good Colorado College squad. Centre Ladies are young and exciting to watch; they'll bounce back and play tough tonight against another good team in Austin. If they can somehow neutralize Austin's strong low post play and fluster the guards would superior defensive pressure, I like the Colonels' chances tonight.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on January 17, 2009, 01:55:17 PM
For those who are interested, here's a link to photos from the 1/9/09 game between Austin and Millsaps:

http://gomajors.smugmug.com/gallery/7116515_BWoAK#456323742_G3xCT
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 17, 2009, 09:39:42 PM
Centre bounces back with a 70-55 win over Austin tonight.
Trinity trails Rhodes at the half 27-23. Rhodes could be up more except for a few silly turnovers. Becky Atnips leads Rhodes with 8 and Jennilee Pate chipped in 6. Krista Prato Matthews has 4. Rhodes has gotten good defensive position on Trinity's front-court players. One half doesn't make a game, but I like what Rhodes is doing.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 17, 2009, 10:13:08 PM
This game is long from being over but Rhodes has Trinity on the ropes at 60-51 with 5:15 to play. Rhodes is playing solid defense.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 17, 2009, 10:21:01 PM
Rhodes by 6 with 2:19 to play and TU has the ball.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 17, 2009, 10:21:23 PM
Rhodes 62, TU 56 3:06 left.

Now all we ASC teams need is for Rhodes to hang on!

This game is big for in-region rankings sake.

Who hosts the "Texas Sub-Bracket"?

(Not counting eggs before they hatch, but there has been a women's first round match-up every year this decade in Texas.   There are at least five-seven contenders now, TU, UTD, HSU, HPU, McM even UMHB and UTT.)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 17, 2009, 10:28:25 PM
Rhodes upsets Trinity 64-58. TU never looked to be in the flow tonight. Atnip and Pate each scored 18 in the win.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 17, 2009, 10:36:38 PM
Thanks!  My Livestats hung on 64-58 with 2:21 remaining!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 17, 2009, 11:11:26 PM
Rhodes wins - this might have been the best game I've seen Matt Dean coach in person. He pushed the right buttons and rotated the perfect combinations of players in the 2nd half. He knew when to crank up ball pressure. Trinity never seemed at all comfortable with what they were facing. They looked dazed and tired. Even though Rhodes never led by more than 9, I never had the sense Trinity would come back & win. The only point tonight when the Tigers looked fresh and ready to attack was the opening 3 minutes of the 2nd half when they took the lead by 3. Prado-Matthews was pretty much a non-factor, though she scored 14 and had her share of rebounds. Rhodes' quickness worked to their advantage in that they forced numerous bad passes and created turnovers. Point guard Becky Atnip put the Lynx on her back to lead this team down the stretch with great ball-handling. Freshman Pate is an SCAC star in the making. She is a smaller version of Prado-Matthews with a fine array of skills and shots around the basket. She constantly took her defender on a complete tour of the offensive paint, hitting big shots when the Lynx needed them.  Senior leadership was provided by Lytle as well. Fun game if you were a Rhodes fan tonight. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 18, 2009, 10:31:33 AM
Thanks, pbrooks3.  As I've said before, Trinity is a young team and it looks like Coach Dean figured a way to take advantage of that.  He manged to do it while keeping Trinity off the line - they average ~20 FTs per game to last night's four.  Glad you had a good time and thanks for the in-person report!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on January 18, 2009, 05:25:26 PM
Being a fan doesn't mean that one is obliged to ignore reality.  Here are some numbers that give me reasons to be concerned:

74-67 -- That was the score of OU's win at Millsaps last year.  It was a road game for OU and they had some players out and that obviously was a factor in the game.

6 -- Millsaps had 6 players playing today who played at least 17 minutes in last year's game.  That includes all 5 starters from last year.

3 -- The number of seniors in the Millsaps starting lineup today.

40-15, 67-29, 86-43, and 94-55 -- Those are running scores and the final score from today's game.  The 39 point margin of victory was the largest by OU this year and their starters sat the majority of the second half.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

During the first half the OU announcer said that Millsaps didn't look interested in playing defense.  He also said that Millsaps looked like they wanted no part of Oglethorpe.  I would like to believe that this was just the overexagerations of a home team announcer, but then you look at the numbers and you have to wonder.

Personally, I didn't expect Millsaps to go to OU and win on the road against one of the best teams in the country.  I expected them to go and play well to see how they measured up against the best.  Either they didn't take advantage of the opportunity to see how their best measures against an elite national team, or Millsaps is a long way from competing at the top level of the SCAC.  I still continue to believe that Millsaps has the talent to be more than what they are showing, but the time left for it all to come together is running short. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 19, 2009, 09:28:12 AM
I was pleased with the way the Centre Ladies bounced back Saturday against Austin after falling to Colorado College at home on Friday night in a close one. I believe the coaches have Centre moving in a positive direction. The Lady Colonels have the advantage the remainder of the season of playing the majority of their league games at home with only 4 more road tilts, 2 this coming weekend at Hendrix and Millsaps. Both will be challenging games for them, but certainly winable. Centre still must play the big three in Danville - Trinity, Oglethorpe and DePauw. I am projecting this Centre squad will pull at least one upset against one of the big three. My best guess is it could be Trinity. I think Centre's quickness and pressure could give Trinity trouble. The weekend loss at Rhodes for Trinity makes me think the Tigers could be vulnerable to a team on the road that plays like the Colonels. I realize this is simply watercooler chit-chat, but I like Centre's chances against a team like Trinity.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TTigersRock on January 19, 2009, 02:09:37 PM
No doubt Rhodes is well coached and they played a good game against Trinity.  Trinity did travel over 300 miles game day and only shot 4 FT's for the game.  It is hard to believe as "pbrooks3" suggests, that a player that is both high scorer and high rebounder in a game is "non- factor".
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 19, 2009, 10:05:47 PM
Perhaps I should rephrase my earlier statement to say that Prado-Matthews was not enough of a factor in the Rhodes game to bring them a victory. This young lady is very good, and I have seen her play some great games in her career. No doubt 2 games with 250 miles between sites wears on a team. Welcome to the SCAC. While there was some disparity between the # of free throws shot in Saturday's game, I don't believe the officials determined the outcome of this one. Actually the officiating to me was pretty good, and they allowed both teams to play.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on January 21, 2009, 08:24:06 AM
The new website for Millsaps athletics went online yesterday.  Check it out and note that there is a box on the lower right where you can sign up for the sports e-newsletter.

Link:  http://www.gomajors.com/
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 21, 2009, 01:24:05 PM
What looks to be the best game of the coming weekend?  Any predictions?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 23, 2009, 07:48:50 AM
My stab at who will win games tonight:

Trinity wins by 21 over Sewanee;
Oglethorpe wins by 9 over Southwestern;
Colorado College wins by 8 over Rhodes;
Austin wins by 12 over Birmingham Southern;
DePauw wins by 17 over Millsaps;
Centre squeezes by Hendrix by 1

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on January 23, 2009, 05:43:02 PM
I'll throw my picks into the hat:

Trinity wins by 30 over Sewanee;  Sewanee is dreadful and they're without Wills
Oglethorpe wins by 22  over Southwestern; no player makes it to 30 minutes
Colorado College wins by 3 over Rhodes; Which Rhodes team will show up?  Does August get a triple double? yes
Austin over Birmingham Southern by 4;
DePauw over Millsaps by 26;
Centre over Hendrix by 5
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 23, 2009, 09:36:43 PM
Trinity got off to a very slow start against Sewanee, trailing for the first five minutes.  Leading by only one with a little under six minutes left in the first half, they go on a 17-1 run to lead 40-24 at the half.  Ali Marzella has been huge with 17 points including five threes (on 11 attempts).
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 23, 2009, 09:42:15 PM
A solid opening 20 minutes for Centre - they're up 35-21 and it could have been more. Hendrix got tired in the last 2-3 minutes.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 23, 2009, 10:21:52 PM
Trinity defeats Sewanee 76-46.   
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 24, 2009, 11:21:38 AM
Centre Ladies played impressively last night against Hendrix. This was only the 3rd game I've seen them play this year, but clearly the best performance I've witnessed from Wendie Austin Robinson's crew. They were in the Hendrix team's faces for 40 minutes. The Lady Warriors were overmatched, and they looked both physically & mentally drained by the time the final buzzer sounded. Centre reminded me a little last night of Bruce Pearl's Tennessee squad from last season. The full court annoying style of defensive intensity Centre employs is fun to watch. Austin Robinson uses 10-11 players consistently in her system. This showed well last night with balanced scoring, rebounding, etc. Centre is an up and coming team in the SCAC with depth and youth. Good luck to the ladies at Millsaps on Sunday!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 24, 2009, 11:52:07 AM
Predictions any one?

Mine are:

Tonight, Southwestern beats Sewanee by 14.

Tomorrow, I like Trinity over Oglethorpe by 2, maybe an OT affair;
Austin takes Rhodes by 6;
Colorado College beats Birmingham Southern by 13;
DePauw wins by 9 at Hendrix;
Centre by 5 at Millsaps
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 24, 2009, 02:08:46 PM
Even with HCA, I'll be surprised to see Trinity win tomorrow afternoon.  I may try to head down for the game.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 25, 2009, 03:42:06 PM
Lady Colonels were clicking on all cylinders in the 1st half; they're leading 47-22. Chelsea Goodman has had her way with 20 points or so. These women are fun to watch.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopsfan11 on January 25, 2009, 03:44:09 PM
Looks like a rough start for Oglethorpe as Trinity has them down 39-25 at the half.  OU is shooting only 22% for the first half compared to 47% for Trinity.  Though Oglethorpe is leading the rebounding and turnover statistics, it is hard to win a game shooting 22%.  We'll see what the second half has to offer.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 25, 2009, 04:42:35 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on January 24, 2009, 02:08:46 PM
Even with HCA, I'll be surprised to see Trinity win tomorrow afternoon.  I may try to head down for the game.

I didn't make it down to SA, but the Trinity women made me look like an idiot today (it's not hard).  All the Tiger starters went off in double figures in today's 85-72 win, overcoming 23 turnovers.  Ali Marzella continued her recent strong play with 23 points, Krista Prato-Matthews had 17 points,  13 boards, and six blocks, Abby Dietert had 15 and 12.  For Oglethorpe, Tina Grace had 18, Katie Kulavic and Anna Findlay both had 17 - the latter despite shooting 3 of 16.  Biz Richmann had 14 and 12.

Rebounding was even at 44.  Trinity was credited with 12 blocks (to none by Oglethorpe).  The Stormy Petrels had a hard time finding the basket, shooting only 31% and 10% from beyond the arc (2 of 20).  Trinity shot 51% and 50% from long distance (6 of 12).
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 25, 2009, 04:45:36 PM
Centre has an impressive win 80-57 at Millsaps. A wonderful 2-0 road trip for these ladies.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 25, 2009, 06:08:07 PM
Any word on the Rhodes-Austin game?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 25, 2009, 06:27:24 PM
Quote from: pbrooks3 on January 25, 2009, 06:08:07 PM
Any word on the Rhodes-Austin game?

AC 62, Rhodes 59.

Rhodes trailed by one, rebounded a missed 'Roo shot with 17 seconds left, Rhodes' Kristen Lytle was called for an offensive foul with :03 left and the Lynx had to foul immediately.  Katy Williams hit both freebies to account for the final margin.  Becky Atnip got off a shot with :01 left but her prayers were not answered.

Box score (http://artemis.austincollege.edu/admin/sports/results/Recaps/wb08gm17.htm#GAME.PLY).
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 25, 2009, 10:32:00 PM
Thanks Ron, I was in the car & hadn't been able to get a final.

Centre Ladies looked tremendous today following an equally inspiring performance at Hendrix Friday night. Chelsea Goodman totaled 45 points over the weekend with 27 coming today. She rebounded effectively, produced steals and assists, and had 2 stellar games. She would be my candidate for POTW. I tell you this Centre team has made great strides over the past year. They're young, energetic and darn right fun to watch the way they stay in their opponent's faces for 40 minutes                   
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 26, 2009, 07:25:44 PM
Kudos to Chelsea Goodman of Centre for Player of the Week honors. She had two terrific games in road wins at Hendrix & Millsaps. She is a wonderful young lady and a fine basketball player.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 26, 2009, 10:02:00 PM
Oglethorpe drops to 9th and DePauw checks in at 23rd in the latest d3hoops.com Top 25 poll (http://www.d3hoops.com/top25).

While I didn't expect to see Trinity in the top 25, I thought a solid win over a top-five team would garner a few votes.  The loss to Rhodes (combined with the other three losses) probably is making voters wary until such time as TU gets another quality win.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 28, 2009, 07:56:44 PM
Friday predictions:

Birmingham Southern over Millsaps by 10
Rhodes wins by 7 over Hendrix
Oglethorpe wins by 21 over Colorado College
Sewanee pulls out a squeaker by 1 over Austin
DePauw scores a 5 pt win over Trinity
Centre beats Southwestern by 13
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 30, 2009, 08:42:00 PM
Halftime DPU 37 Trinity 30


DPU 74 TU 53 1 minute left!

That is an in-region loss, so that helps OU!

DPU is in the Great Lakes Region and so that is a good win for them!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopsfan11 on January 31, 2009, 11:13:17 AM
When do the first regional rankings come out?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 31, 2009, 01:53:47 PM
Another exciting win for the Lady Colonels over Southwestern last night.  Centre held Southwestern to 25% shooting and caused 30 turnovers.  The Pirates' top post player, Natasha Azizi scored the bulk of the team's points - 22.  Clearly Centre wreaked havoc on the perimeter all night.  Freshman, Maggie Pruitt had a wonderfully balanced game scoring 14.  Ten players got in the scoring column for the Colonels. 

A big challenge comes stalking into Danville tonight in Trinity.  I like the Colonels' spunk, tenacity and effort over the past 5 games.    If Centre will continue to play their game, and not get enamored with the quality of the Trinity players and their great tradition, the Lady Colonels can win this game. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 31, 2009, 02:11:46 PM
My predictions for the remainder of the weekend are:

Birmingham Southern wins by 8 over Hendrix
Centre beats Trinity by 6
DePauw wins by 23 over Southwestern
Oglethorpe over Austin by 13
Colorado College wins at Sewanee by 5
Rhodes dominates Millsaps by 18
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 31, 2009, 09:44:32 PM
Ladies Colonels get it done tonight with a 71-69 win against Trinity. This is a signature win for the program after a lot of futility against Trinity in recent years. Now the team will prepare for one final road trip this coming weekend at Rhodes and Birmingham Southern before finishing the season at home against the best in the East - Oglethorpe and DePauw.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 31, 2009, 11:13:23 PM
Quote from: hoopsfan11 on January 31, 2009, 11:13:17 AM
When do the first regional rankings come out?
Feb 11th for the women.  Feb 4th for the men.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 31, 2009, 11:24:44 PM
Centre has another player this week knocking on the POTW door - freshman, Maggie Pruitt tallied 34 points, 12 rebounds and 9 assists in victories over Southwestern and Trinity over the weekend.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 01, 2009, 09:22:25 AM
Congrats to both DPU and Centre on their wins this week.    DPU wasn't a surprise, Centre was.

Krista Prato-Matthews didn't play either game on the road trip and I hope she's OK.   TU was forced to play a three-guard lineup in her absence and that's not their normal game.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 01, 2009, 05:00:49 PM
Rhodes has played a decent 1st half leading by 9. They still need to uptempo it a bit more. Millsaps has 9 players in uniform and they're prone to turnovers with the lineup they have on the floor. They're staying in the game with better offensive rebounding than Rhodes. McGill has 13 points for Rhodes. When Rhodes spreads the floor they are successfully dribble driving the ball. They played twin 6'2" posts in Whitaker and Kramer for about 4 minutes. This seemed to neutralize Millsaps' advantage in the paint. Rhodes should win this game by 15.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 01, 2009, 11:25:27 PM
Rhodes got nice guard play from its tandem of Atnip and McGill in their win against Millsaps.  They combined for 42 of the team's 73 points.  McGill, if I'm not mistaken got a career high of 26.  McGill pretty much was able to do whatever she needed to against the Majors.   
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 03, 2009, 11:43:51 PM
KPM didn't play again in tonight's 74-46 win over UDallas.  Ali Marzella had 17, Lauren Hickey 15 to lead TU.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 04, 2009, 08:13:23 AM
So what's the deal with KPM?  I assume she has sustained an injury.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 04, 2009, 09:23:08 AM
Wish I knew ... she is still on the roster so that's what I assume.  The game notes for last night's game simply say "[t]he Tiger women's basketball team, playing without its top scorer and rebounder, lost a pair of road games in SCAC play, falling at DePauw and Centre."
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 04, 2009, 02:05:28 PM
She was in street clothes @ DPU on Friday.  Wasn't wearing any medical garb (brace, sling, etc), and she wasn't featuring a noticable limp or anything, so we were all kind of puzzled about it, as well. 

They needed her on Friday, too.  DPU outrebounded them 55-31, including Emily Marshall's 20.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 05, 2009, 08:11:26 AM
I am expecting a competitive game tomorrow night at Rhodes when they host Centre. The Lady Colonels are on a 5-game SCAC winning streak having concluded last weekend with a hard-fought win at home against Trinity sans the aforementioned KPM.

The Rhodes affair is what I think of as a potential "trap" game for Centre on their current streak. Centre beat Rhodes fairly handedily on its homecourt earlier. I look for the Lynx to be prepared tomorrow night. If Centre can rattle Rhodes' solid guard tandem of Atnip & McGill, the Colonels can add to their streak. Otherwise, this one could go down to the wire with either team winning it on a final possession score.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 05, 2009, 11:02:14 AM
Quote from: Wes Anderson on February 04, 2009, 02:05:28 PM
She was in street clothes @ DPU on Friday.  Wasn't wearing any medical garb (brace, sling, etc), and she wasn't featuring a noticable limp or anything, so we were all kind of puzzled about it, as well. 

They needed her on Friday, too.  DPU outrebounded them 55-31, including Emily Marshall's 20.

+1.   TU without KPM is like the Spurs without Tim Duncan, it leaves a huge hole on both sides of the court.  Her presence might not have gotten Trinity past their arch nemesis but would have been a big help against Centre. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 05, 2009, 12:45:59 PM
Here's what I see happening Friday and Saturday this weekend.

FRIDAY
Colorado College wins by 12 over Hendrix
Austin defeats Millsaps by 11
Centre wins by 4 at Rhodes
DePauw takes care of business at Birmingham Southern by 10

SATURDAY
Oglethorpe has little difficulty with Sewanee winning by 19
Trinity gains a much needed victory by 7 over Southwestern
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 06, 2009, 12:33:07 PM
The SCAC had two student-athletes named to their respective CoSIDA/ESPN 2009 Academic All-District Women's Basketball Team.  Congratulations are in order to:

Krista Prato-Matthews, Trinity - 1st team, District 6 College Division
* 3.82 GPA, majoring in Biology

Melanie Auguste, Colorado College - 1st team, District 7 College Division
* 3.74 GPA, majoring in Economics


College Division = D2, D3, NAIA. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 06, 2009, 01:28:41 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 06, 2009, 12:33:07 PM
The SCAC had two student-athletes named to their respective CoSIDA/ESPN 2009 Academic All-District Women's Basketball Team.  Congratulations are in order to:

Krista Prato-Matthews, Trinity - 1st team, District 6 College Division
* 3.82 GPA, majoring in Biology

Melanie Auguste, Colorado College - 1st team, District 7 College Division
* 3.74 GPA, majoring in Economics


College Division = D2, D3, NAIA. 
Good stuff - what's the latest on KPM?  Will she play tonight?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 06, 2009, 02:34:25 PM
Quote from: pbrooks3 on February 05, 2009, 12:45:59 PM
Here's what I see happening Friday and Saturday this weekend.

FRIDAY
Colorado College wins by 12 over Hendrix
Austin defeats Millsaps by 11
Centre wins by 4 at Rhodes
DePauw takes care of business at Birmingham Southern by 10

SATURDAY
Oglethorpe has little difficulty with Sewanee winning by 19
Trinity gains a much needed victory by 7 over Southwestern


I hope you're right about the AC/Millsaps game.  The 'Roos need this one big time to set up a huge game with Hendrix on Sunday.  With the 'Roos going on the road for Colorado College, Southwestern and Trinity to close the season, these two games are incredibly important if they want to sneak into the tournament.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 06, 2009, 04:45:01 PM
Quote from: pbrooks3 on February 06, 2009, 01:28:41 PM

Good stuff - what's the latest on KPM?  Will she play tonight?
I know for a fact she won't play tonight - since TU only has the Saturday game this weekend :)

If she doesn't play Saturday I'll ramble on down the stands to ask Justin Parker (the SID) what's up. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 06, 2009, 04:47:47 PM
Keep in mind though Ron, you might not get any info if she's injured.  Technically, if she IS injured, people associated with the school aren't supposed to disclose that sort of information due to HIPAA rules.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 06, 2009, 05:05:05 PM
People tend to hide behind HIPAA, which only actually prevents the health care PROVIDER from talking about it. Unless a coach or SID is treating the player in question, they are not subject to HIPAA's privacy rule.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 06, 2009, 11:27:28 PM
Lady Colonels pulled out another solid road win tonight at Rhodes 85-78 for their 6th victory in a row. This game was fast-paced throughout with the lead changing hands frequently in the 1st 35 minutes of play (Rhodes led by 1 at the half). Centre's pressure defense led to a few takeaways and baskets late that allowed them to build a 10-12 pt working margin with 3-4 minutes remaining. Freshman Maggie Pruett had a big scoring night with 5 three-pointers and 25 points. Chelsea Goodman contributed 20. Post Lauren Hutter was big down the stretch too.

After a quiet opening 20 minutes, Becky Atnip carried the Lynx Ladies in the final 20 minutes making big shots and numerous free throws. She tallied 23 with 3 other players in double figures.

This was a fun game to watch - both teams used short possessions and took lots of shots.  Didn't see the final stats but both team shot the ball well tonight, particularly on the perimeter.

In the final analysis, the Colonels' depth probably was the difference in this game.  Both squads match up well with one another. If these 2 meet up again in the SCAC tourney, the game could go either way.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 08, 2009, 01:05:20 AM
Trinity jumped out to a big lead (20+ pts) against Southwestern, faded in the second half but managed to hold off the Lady Pirates 73-66.  They moved the ball extremely well in the first half, too much individual effort in the second resulting in turnovers.  Ali Marzella had 20 (15 in the first half) and Alexandra Blake had 13 boards.  If Southwestern doesn't miss about a million layups the outcome could have been quite different.  Stacy Mullin had 18 and 11 to pace the Pirates.

KPM was wearing a walking cast on her left foot, don't know if she'll be back but she was tossing balls off the backboard in warmups. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 08, 2009, 10:00:52 AM
In today's action, I see:

Colorado College wins by 13 over Millsaps;
Austin wins by 8 against Hendrix;
DePauw defeats Rhodes by 6;
Centre by 8 at Birmingham Southern
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 09, 2009, 12:34:06 PM
Well, the Centre Ladies' SCAC streak ended at 6 in Birmingham yesterday afternoon.  It was a good run, and the Colonels gave Birmingham-Southern a great game that went down to the final shot.  I look for Centre to have a solid week of practice preparing for a large challenge on Saturday at home against DePauw. 

The DePauw team I saw yesterday at Rhodes looks like they are rounding into tournament form - they are deep, fundamentally sound, balanced and physical.  I know OU is good, and Trinity and Colorado College would like to make statements, too, but this DePauw team looks like another one built to move through at least several games in the D3 tournament.  Over 40 minutes, they simply pulverize opponents.  Let me put it succinctly - they ain't afraid of any one!


Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 09, 2009, 01:08:13 PM
The good news about losing to BSC is that it doesn't hurt in the conference standings. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopsfan11 on February 09, 2009, 06:33:46 PM
Anyone know anything about Tina Grace for OU?  She hasn't played in a while.  I have heard that she is injured but nothing else.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 10, 2009, 09:04:43 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 09, 2009, 01:08:13 PM
The good news about losing to BSC is that it doesn't hurt in the conference standings. 
So true fortunately.  If I'm not mistaken, next year will be year 3 for BSC, and while their totals won't count again, I am thinking games played against them in the SCAC will count as a in region games for their opponents.  Am I correct on that or did I misread D3's rules.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 10, 2009, 09:27:33 PM
Quote from: pbrooks3 on February 10, 2009, 09:04:43 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 09, 2009, 01:08:13 PM
The good news about losing to BSC is that it doesn't hurt in the conference standings. 
So true fortunately.  If I'm not mistaken, next year will be year 3 for BSC, and while their totals won't count again, I am thinking games played against them in the SCAC will count as a in region games for their opponents.  Am I correct on that or did I misread D3's rules.
Games versus BSC will be provisional next year.

Any news as to whether BSC will be "double-promoted" anytime in the re-classification process?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 10, 2009, 09:47:59 PM
Provisional and regional. :)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 11, 2009, 02:58:33 PM
First women's rankings are out (http://d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2009/02/11/ncaa-regional-rankings/).

South Region
1. Oglethorpe 15-2 19-2
2. Texas-Dallas 18-2 18-3
3. Greensboro 17-0 18-1
4. Roanoke 18-2 19-2
5. McMurry 15-3 17-4
6. Mississippi College 17-3 18-3

Great Lakes Region
1. DePauw 11-2 19-3
2. Hope 14-1 18-1
3. Washington and Jefferson 15-2 19-2
4. Thomas More 16-2 19-2
5. Capital 15-3 15-4
6. Baldwin-Wallace 13-4 16-5
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 12, 2009, 12:34:08 PM
Hope's schedule is killing them.  323rd in OWP.  Think DePauw got by them with their 57th ranked schedule.    Would love for that trend to hold until selection sunday.  I just don't know how much better Hope's number is going to get, either.

I think we're getting a little ahead of ourselves when we're thinking about where DePauw might run into Hope down the line, but it'd sure be nice to hold on to that #1 spot in the region.  Traveling to the DeVos Fieldhouse scares me.  I think DPU can probably keep that spot assuming they win out until championship Sunday.  They may still hold on to it even if they lose.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 12, 2009, 04:36:59 PM
Quote from: Wes Anderson on February 12, 2009, 12:34:08 PM
Hope's schedule is killing them.  323rd in OWP.  Think DePauw got by them with their 57th ranked schedule.    Would love for that trend to hold until selection sunday.  I just don't know how much better Hope's number is going to get, either.

I think we're getting a little ahead of ourselves when we're thinking about where DePauw might run into Hope down the line, but it'd sure be nice to hold on to that #1 spot in the region.  Traveling to the DeVos Fieldhouse scares me.  I think DPU can probably keep that spot assuming they win out until championship Sunday.  They may still hold on to it even if they lose.
Thanks for calling attention to that!

All of D3 should be rooting for DePauw to run the table.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 13, 2009, 01:28:22 PM
Here's how I see tonight's SCAC womens games going:

Oglethorpe handles Rhodes by 17

Birmingham Southern wins by 3 at Sewanee

Trinity beats Millsaps by 9

Hendrix wins at home over Southwestern by 13
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: airball1 on February 13, 2009, 04:57:38 PM
Ralph:
All HOPE DePauw runs the table except Centre, Oglethorpe, & Sewanee.
Keep the posts coming.
They are great.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 13, 2009, 06:48:22 PM
Quote from: airball1 on February 13, 2009, 04:57:38 PM
Ralph:
All HOPE DePauw runs the table except Centre, Oglethorpe, & Sewanee.
Keep the posts coming.
They are great.
Here is a question for consideration.

I think that Oglethorpe has a bid and may host a sectional, regardless of its final outcome with DePauw.

If DePauw gets the #1 seed in the Great Lakes, then Hope will likely travel.  Oglethorpe is not likely to be seeded in the tourney higher than Hope.

I think that Hope or DePauw catches the Sectional for that part of the country.

(I think that IWU gets the western half of the teams, York PA or Messiah from the Mid-Atlantic/Atlantic Region and Amherst for the Northeast/East.)

Would Oglethorpe rather go to DePauw or to Hope for the Sectional?

;)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 13, 2009, 10:52:26 PM
Happy to see Krista Prato-Matthews back on the floor tonight in Trinity's 82-61 win at Millsaps.  In 15 minutes, she had 10 points (on 13 shots!), 7 rebounds, a couple of blocks and three assists. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 13, 2009, 11:05:44 PM
Hendrix gets the win over Southwestern.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopsfan11 on February 14, 2009, 12:09:18 AM
Kulavic passes Francouer as the all-time leading scorer in OU history tonight in Oglethorpe's win over Rhodes.  Congrats to Katie and all of the seniors on that team who have helped to make that happen.  What a great career that senior class has had.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 14, 2009, 12:00:10 PM
Puts her about 40 shy of the all-time conference scoring record, too.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 14, 2009, 03:26:02 PM
If anyone is at the DePauw-Centre game or picking it up the audio, you might give the rest of us an occasional post this afternoon.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 14, 2009, 03:52:30 PM
Finally picking up DPU-Centre on the internet via WGRE.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 14, 2009, 04:14:52 PM
Centre is up 64-48 with a bit more than 5 minutes to go in the game.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 14, 2009, 04:21:33 PM
Lauren Hutter and Chelsea Goodman are leading the way for a Centre Ladies squad that is going to upset the #14 DePauw team today.  Centre is up by 19 with 2 minutes to play.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 14, 2009, 05:05:06 PM
Very impressive the way the Centre Ladies have been playing.  Other than a small hiccup at Birmingham Southern last weekend, this team is playing great basketball right now.  They now own two outstanding home wins against Trinity and #14 DePauw.  Coach Austin-Robinson has done a magnificent job meshing veteran players with youth on this year's team.

Chelsea Goodman led today's effort with 23 points, 7 rebounds and 4-7 on threes.  Freshman Maggie Prewitt also dominated the stat sheet with 18 points, 6 rebounds, 7 assists, and 4-8 on threes.  Lauren Huter held up her end of the deal in the middle defending effectively against the DePauw post players.

To a casual basketball observer, the Centre Ladies are a fun team to watch.  They play 10 deep most of the time and they come after you with tenacity for 40 minutes.  Their best players are stepping up in the big games.  However, they get key contributions from everyone, and they epitomize the team concept in their play.  Any one of ten players are capable of a big game on a given night.

Look forward to seeing them play again in person at the tournament.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 14, 2009, 11:06:58 PM
Hendrix Ladies are going to win over Trinity tonight 82-76.  TU made of a game of it late by getting some 3's and forcing Hendrix into some sloppy play.  Christina Byler scored 30 for the Warriors, and Ali Marzella did the same for the Tigers.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 14, 2009, 11:08:34 PM
Quote from: airball1 on February 13, 2009, 04:57:38 PM
Ralph:
All HOPE DePauw runs the table except Centre, Oglethorpe, & Sewanee.
Keep the posts coming.
They are great.
Centre (http://www.centre.edu/web/athletics/basketball_w/box_scores/0809/dep-cenw.htm) made its opinion known.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 15, 2009, 10:18:54 AM
Though it promises to be a challenge, the Centre Ladies would like to go get one more big win - next Sunday they host the great team from Oglethorpe. The Colonels would love to play giant killer again.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 15, 2009, 10:31:03 AM
While I don't think Centre will beat Oglethorpe next week... I do believe the game will be alot closer than the Petrels want.  IF Centre does well in the tournament (maybe losing in the finals) does this team have any shot at an at large NCAA tournament berth?  If they were to lose in the finals I assume they would most likely end up with a 19-8 record with wins over DPU, Trinity.  The losses to BSouthern, Oglethorpe (2), DPU, Colorado College, Transy, and St. Catherine probably ruin those chances as well as a 22 pt. loss to Thomas Moore.

It just seems like the Lady Colonels are playing tournament worthy ball right now and are peaking at the right time, but that might be mean anything because of their slow start.  It looks like most of this team is coming back next year so 2010 could be their year!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on February 15, 2009, 06:37:39 PM
It would be an understatement to say that Millsaps needed a win today after a promising start to the season was sidetracked by a long SCAC losing streak.  That streak is over as the Lady Majors came out on top over Southwestern today by a 65-62 score. 

In their final game on the Millsaps home court, the 4 Millsaps seniors all played big roles in the win.  Jessica Bowie came off the bench to score a team high 19 points and she added 6 rebounds.  LaReina Adams reached double-digits with 10 points and she grabbed 5 rebounds along the way.  Tiffany Whitmore had 7 points in 35 minutes of play, but she was constantly pushing the pace and only had 2 turnovers which were offset by her 3 steals.  Crystal Dickerson had a fairly quiet 6 points, but one of those was her 1,000th point during her college career.  I she she wants at least 2 more games to add to that total.

Millsaps is now 5-9 with a road game to Hendrix left on their schedule.  Austin is 4-9 with road games to Southwestern and Trinity.  The two teams split during the season, each winning by 2 on their home court, and I don't know who holds the tiebreaker if they end with the same number of wins.  Plus, I believe a Millsaps win over Hendrix would put them ahead of Hendrix since they would have the same record and Millsaps would have won both games.

Someone smarter than me will figure it out.  Here's the link to today's boxscore:

http://www.gomajors.com/custompages/WBB/2008-09/stats/mcw08-24.htm
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Scottatlga on February 15, 2009, 10:50:07 PM
Saw OU Women beat up on BSC today - it was Senior Day for 7 OU Seniors, so kind of emotional.  OU was up 32-24 at the half, but really kicked it up in the 2nd half winning 83-58.  Congratulations to Biz Richman for reaching the 1,000 point milestone! 
Tina Grace is back...after looking a little rusty on her first night back this past Friday, she poured in 21 points today in the win.  Anna Findley added 20 and reigning SCAC POTY Katie Kulavic added 7 bringing her career total to 1,503 - only 42 to break the conference career point total - Good Luck Katie!

Tough weekend coming up at DePauw and Centre, but this team is up to the challenge.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 15, 2009, 11:21:12 PM
Quote from: Scottatlga on February 15, 2009, 10:50:07 PM
Saw OU Women beat up on BSC today - it was Senior Day for 7 OU Seniors, so kind of emotional.  OU was up 32-24 at the half, but really kicked it up in the 2nd half winning 83-58.  Congratulations to Biz Richman for reaching the 1,000 point milestone! 
Tina Grace is back...after looking a little rusty on her first night back this past Friday, she poured in 21 points today in the win.  Anna Findley added 20 and reigning SCAC POTY Katie Kulavic added 7 bringing her career total to 1,503 - only 42 to break the conference career point total - Good Luck Katie!

Tough weekend coming up at DePauw and Centre, but this team is up to the challenge.

Nice to have another Petrel on the board. +1 for you for your first post and supporting the amazing senior class that is about to close out a very memorable career!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 16, 2009, 11:26:55 AM
FlightofthePetrel, your notes on Centre are a pleasure to hear. The Ladies Colonels have definitely come a long way towards getting them back on the SCAC contender map. I think the goal of the Colonels has been met this season with the team competing and settling in just beneath what have been the big 3 - Oglethorpe, DePauw and Trinity. It's been nice to fortunately get Trinity at home this season. While I think Centre can compete with Oglethorpe at home this weekend, it probably will be their most challenging home game of the season.  OU and Centre actually have similar styles of play, and I don't know whether the Lady Colonels can match the intensity and experience of Oglethorpe over the course of 40 minutes. Centre played OU a solid opening 16 minutes in Atlanta in December; the key is whether they can maintain consistency throughout a game against one of the nation's best squads.

Of course it would be great if Centre got into the D3 tournament this season; I think the only way that happens is if they win the SCAC tournament. However, it would make a nice statement if Centre could upset Oglethorpe this coming week.

The Lady Colonels, as you've noted, have most of their key players returning next season. Two of their major players are only freshmen - Prewitt and Huter. Goodman comes back for her senior season next year. Stovall, Luckey, Tronzo and a slew of others will be back.   There are a number of up and coming freshmen as well, and with another decent recruiting season, this team will be good next year, too.

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 16, 2009, 02:49:06 PM
Pbrooks3- Centre is definitely worthy of the praise as of late.  If they can get in another quality recruiting class like this years I'm sure they will be in contention with DPU, Trinity and Oglethorpe next year.  While they do play the same type of game as OU one thing they need to be aware of next year is the fact that they won't surprise anyone.  I've noticed over the past 4 years that teams are quite aware of what OU is going to do on the offensive and defensive sides of the ball and they have come ready for it.  This year they are running more plays than ever and have added yet another aspect to their game that is making it difficult for teams to prepare for.  If Centre can add to what they've accomplished this year and grow into more of a complete and patient offensive team they will be a force to be reckoned with.

I'm looking forward to a good game this coming weekend between OU and Centre... our girls need some good stiff competition these next few games to get them ready for the SCAC and NCAA tournament.

GO Petrels!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 16, 2009, 02:59:25 PM
Agreed that Centre won't sneak up on any teams in the SCAC.  However, there are certain teams in the SCAC that Centre matches up well with their style of play.  Oglethorpe would not be one of them, I might add.  Trinity, Millsaps, Austin, Southwestern and Hendrix are several teams that come to mind this year that I felt Centre could handle.  Centre struggled more with Colorado College and Rhodes.

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Scottatlga on February 16, 2009, 10:33:10 PM
FotP:

Thank you for the welcome to the Boards.  It has been a lot of fun watching OU the last 4 years...I have to say that the SCAC has to be one of the toughest conferences in DIII.  While there are favorites, on any given night, I would say any team can hold their own against any other team in the conference (and outside the conference), especially on their Home court, that's why I am making the trip to DePauw and Centre this weekend to support the Petrels!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 17, 2009, 01:45:21 AM
Scott,

You'll get to see two great games!  I made the trip last year (to do the broadcasting) and had a great time.  Watch out for the refs at Depauw as they have been quite bad the past few years  :-\  While in Greencastle you must try Marvins which is famous for the Garlic Cheeseburger.  Just ask around and anyone should be able to tell you where it is, you won't be dissapointed.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 17, 2009, 10:38:41 AM
Scott, welcome aboard and enjoy your trip this weekend. If you're able while you're traveling, give us the benefit of your insights during the 2 games. I try to stay on top of SCAC action, particularly Centre, from afar. Centre is hoping to have Live Stats going for the games this weekend, but it's not necessarily a done deal just yet. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 20, 2009, 12:13:29 PM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on February 17, 2009, 01:45:21 AM
Scott,

You'll get to see two great games!  I made the trip last year (to do the broadcasting) and had a great time.  Watch out for the refs at Depauw as they have been quite bad the past few years  :-\ 
We've been over this fifteen times.  The teams in the north hate going south because they don't call fouls.  The teams in the south hate going to the north because they DO call fouls.  You can't be handsy outside the three point line.  You'll get called every time.  The home teams know that and can take advantage of it.  Kulavic got that way last year and picked up her 4th foul with 14:00 left.  Couple years ago (the year DPU shot 3 free throws) they were letting Biz Richmann get away with first degree assault under the basket and didn't call it.  That's just the officiating down there.  Doesn't mean they're bad.  Means they're different.

That's why every time DPU goes to Atlanta, they shoot like 10 free throws (11, 21, 3!!, 15, the last 4 trips respectively).  Every time Oglethorpe comes to Greencastle, DePauw shoots like 25 (44, 23, and 19 the last 3 trips).  It's got nothing to do with the talent of specific officials.  Let's get our blame game straightened out.  You think it's bad officiating because you live in a bubble.  We all do when we start going on road trips.  But, when you get to more games in the specific regions, you find out that's just how it is.

EDIT: Furthermore, it's that way at all the schools DePauw goes to south of Centre, but they're typically just so much bigger in the frontcourt and so much more talented that it doesn't matter.  A lot of schools forwards could foul Argetsinger, Bondi, Fernandez, and Marshall and they're going to put the ball in the basket anyway.  Trinity used to be the Oglethorpe in this conference, and DePauw struggled down there just as badly they currently struggle at Oglethorpe.  Yeah, the travel is a part of the home court advantage in this conference, particularly when you're talking about DePauw, but the bigger thing is how well the visitors can adjust to the officiating they get.  If you don't adjust, then your opponent shoots 44 free throws and your star player plays 15 minutes.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 20, 2009, 12:19:23 PM
At tonight's game between Sewanee and Centre in Danville, the Colonels' athletic department is hoping to make the game available (both women's and men's games) via Live Stats.  They will also attempt to do this for the Sunday games with Oglethorpe.  If they're able to get everything coordinated, etc., there should be a link later today via the Centre Athletic website.  Be on the lookout at the following website for this link:

http://www.centre.edu/web/athletics/basketball_w/schedule_basketballw.html
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 20, 2009, 03:30:56 PM
Quote from: Wes Anderson on February 20, 2009, 12:13:29 PM
Trinity used to be the Oglethorpe in this conference

:'(  Seems like there are a lot of "Trinity used to be the so-and-so in this conference" statements going around these days.  With the men's soccer team graduating basically everyone I wonder who will take over there. 

Seriously, if Trinity doesn't get a few more women into the program the next year or so, it wouldn't surprise me to see a coaching change in SA.  One senior, one junior and a bench two or three deep (and only 11 players total) makes me wonder what's going on there.  Hopefully it's just a down year.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopsfan11 on February 20, 2009, 05:26:01 PM
Should be an interesting night in the SCAC with the #1s and #2s matching up in each side of the division.  Good luck to the Petrels tonight at DePauw!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 20, 2009, 08:37:01 PM
DePauw is beating Oglethorpe 51-38 at the half in Greencastle.

DPU 81-62; 6:27 left.

DPU 84-79; 2:03 left.

DPU 88-84; 0:41 left. DPU ball.

Final DPU 92-86.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 20, 2009, 09:51:02 PM
DePauw got the victory, but they found the sledding tough in the last 3-4 minutes when Oglethorpe made a game of it.  I am hoping DePauw wore out OU for Sunday's game at Centre. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 20, 2009, 10:36:12 PM
Trinity finally makes some free throws in the end to finish off Colorado College and Melanie Auguste 70-69.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 21, 2009, 09:39:07 AM
I honestly think Centre is looking forward to Sunday's home showdown with Oglethorpe. The Lady Colonels had a relatively easy time of it Friday with Sewanee. Coach Austin-Robinson got to play her extensive bench much of the 2nd half. Physically, this would appear to be good for Centre compared to the all-out war Oglethorpe played at DePauw in their loss. However, Oglethorpe is mentally tough and willing to go toe-to-toe for 40 minutes most nights. This is where I think the Stormy Petrels shine. I am hoping that Centre comes out aggressive & confident from the start and dictates offensive tempo and defensive intensity, and then never let's up for the duration of the contest. We'll see - should be a competitive one; I don't expect a blowout from either side.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on February 21, 2009, 01:30:18 PM
Quote from: pbrooks3 on February 20, 2009, 10:36:12 PM
Trinity finally makes some free throws in the end to finish off Colorado College and Melanie Auguste 70-69.

That's not a score I would have predicted.  With Austin losing at Southwestern Friday, Millsaps is in the SCAC Tournament with a win today or an Austin loss at Trinity.  I'd like to see Millsaps win their way in with a victory at Hendrix today.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 21, 2009, 11:50:15 PM
Good to see KPM have a good game tonight, especially after last night's frustrating effort which saw her play only 18 minutes due to foul trouble (and a technical to boot).  In what is in all likelihood her last home game, Krista had 33 points and 15 rebounds in Trinity's 83-62 win over Austin College.  She also tied Terri Hailey for the Trinity career rebounding lead.

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 22, 2009, 04:44:27 PM
Kulavic becomes the women's SCAC All-Time leading scorer on a 3 pointer late in the second half.  She's having a monster game currently with 32 points on 14-17 shooting in a barn burner in Danville

Oglethorpe 70  Center 68    with 2:00 left
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 22, 2009, 04:46:16 PM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on February 22, 2009, 04:44:27 PM
Kulavic becomes the women's SCAC All-Time leading scorer on a 3 pointer late in the second half.  She's having a monster game currently with 32 points on 14-17 shooting in a barn burner in Danville

Oglethorpe 70  Center 68    with 2:00 left
The rest of the South Region is yelling for Centre!  :D


Centre led 68-66 with 3:00 left.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 22, 2009, 04:49:40 PM
Oglethorpe 76-73... Centre cuts it to 3 on a Maggie Prewitt layup with 23 seconds to go....

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 22, 2009, 04:51:36 PM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on February 22, 2009, 04:49:40 PM
Oglethorpe 76-73... Centre cuts it to 3 on a Maggie Prewitt layup with 23 seconds to go....
Congratulations to the Stormy Petrels on surviving the road trip.

Ogle79 Centre 75 Final.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 22, 2009, 04:54:53 PM
The Petrels hang on for the win 79-75 behind a tremendous performance by Katie Kulavic who finished with  33 points and 9 rebounds (14-17 from the field).  Tina Grace and Anna Findley chipped in with 19 and 18 points respectively.  Looks like Centre has a very balanced scoring attack with 4 players in double figures, Chelsea Goodman led the way with 24 points while Lauren Huter chipped in 14 and 10.  Just by looking at the stats the rebounding margin could be the reason OU won today as they outrebounded Centre by a commanding margin 39-25.

Congrats to the Petrels as it looks like they've wrapped up the #1 seed for the Eastern Division... I believe we hold the tiebreaker against Depauw?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 22, 2009, 05:01:43 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 21, 2009, 11:50:15 PM
Good to see KPM have a good game tonight, especially after last night's frustrating effort which saw her play only 18 minutes due to foul trouble (and a technical to boot).  In what is in all likelihood her last home game, Krista had 33 points and 15 rebounds in Trinity's 83-62 win over Austin College.  She also tied Terri Hailey for the Trinity career rebounding lead.


Good ballgame at Centre; Oglethorpe showed why they're highly ranked with a good road win today after a real war at DePauw Friday.  Centre put up a good fight but had no answer for the senior-laden crew of OU, especially Katie Kavalic.  KK was 14-17 from the field with 33 points and 9 rebounds.  Chelsea Goodman with 24 and freshman Lauren Huter of Centre who had a double-double (16 pts; 10 boards) put up solid figures for the Lady Colonels.  Colonels were able to turnover Oglethorpe a fair number of times, but got outrebounded and outshot by an outstanding team.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 22, 2009, 05:09:15 PM
Quote from: pbrooks3 on February 22, 2009, 05:01:43 PM
Good ballgame at Centre; Oglethorpe showed why they're highly ranked with a good road win today after a real war at DePauw Friday.  Centre put up a good fight but had no answer for the senior-laden crew of OU, especially Katie Kavalic.  KK was 14-17 from the field with 33 points and 9 rebounds.  Chelsea Goodman with 24 and freshman Lauren Huter of Centre who had a double-double (16 pts; 10 boards) put up solid figures for the Lady Colonels.  Colonels were able to turnover Oglethorpe a fair number of times, but got outrebounded and outshot by an outstanding team.

Pbrooks... Centre will be a force to be reckoned with next year in the SCAC with only 2 seniors and a plethora of young talent that will most likely be able to step up next year.  Combine that with an equally impressive recruiting class like this year and I wouldn't be surprised if they win the East...  granted they're going to have to go through OU and DPU to do that but they've proved they're capable of that this year.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 22, 2009, 05:16:51 PM
From the SCAC website:
Quote
Friday - Quarterfinals at Hendrix College
1 p.m. CT - #1W Trinity (11-4/18-7) vs. #4E Rhodes (6-8/13-12)
3 p.m. CT - #2E DePauw (12-2/21-4)  vs. #3W Hendrix (7-8/14-11)
6 p.m. CT - #1E Oglethorpe (12-2/22-3) vs. #4W Millsaps (5-10/10-15)
8 p.m. CT - #2W Colorado College (8-6/15-8) vs. #3E Centre (10-4/17-8) 

Saturday - Semifinals at Hendrix College
1 p.m. CT - Winner 1 West/4 East vs. Winner No. 2 East/3 West
3 p.m. CT - Winner 1 East/4 West vs. Winner No. 2 West/3 East

Sunday - Finals at Hendrix College
12 p.m. CT - Winner 5 p.m. Semifinal vs. Winner 7 p.m. Semifinal
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 22, 2009, 05:27:31 PM
Thanks Wes for that information.

I would also like to make note that head Coach Ron Sattele earned his 100th victory today.  This is Sattele's 5th year as the head coach of the OU women's program and 91 of those wins have come in the past 4 years...

Sattele now stands with a career record of 100-41... (91-25 with this years seniors- his first recruiting class).

Congrats Coach! 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 22, 2009, 07:28:04 PM
I am proud about the season the Lady Colonels have had.  This was expected to be a continuation of the rebuilding effort that Coach Austin-Robinson started some time ago.  The 3rd place finish in the east with an outside chance to get the 2nd seed this afternoon in the game against Oglethorpe was outstanding, and I agree with FlightofthePetrel on his assessment of the team's future.  While a few of the freshmen have been big contributors this season, there is much depth in the freshmen class to build on next year.  Also if the coaching staff has another big recruiting year, Centre will improve their lot even further.

While I can imagine the Colonels women are saddened by a 4-point defeat to OU, today's game has to be a character builder for this predominantly young squad.  The team can take something from this loss, and hopefully realize toughness is a big component they can employ next weekend in their opening round game against Colorado College.  CC put a loss on Centre earlier this season in Danville so I know the Lady Colonels will be prepared to step it up Friday in Conway. 

Congratulations Centre on a wonderful regular season, and good luck in the SCAC tournament next weekend.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 23, 2009, 11:43:35 AM
Official website for the SCAC basketball tourney @ Hendrix:

http://www.hendrix.edu/athletics/content.aspx?id=38292

Live stats will be available, as well as expensive video (tho it's a lot cheaper than travelling to Arkansas).

Obviously Oglethorpe and DePauw are the favorites - also the only schools who can lose and expect a Pool C.   Centre and Trinity have shown they can be competitive with those two at home but on a neutral court the odds will be against them.  The most likely path for either to win a championship would be through both the Stormy Petrels and the Greencastle Tigers, and that's a lot to ask of two young teams.

The injury to Krista Prato-Matthews, though it likely cost them at least one (Centre) and possibly two wins (at Hendrix in her first game back) could be a blessing.  When I saw the second game against Southwestern the offense moved the ball around much better in the first half.  Some of the younger players have come on, especially first year Ali Marzella, who led the team in scoring six of the last ten games and can shoot the three ball.   If she can shoot well early that will give KPM a little more room to roam inside, which in turn will help Trinity's changes of winning more than a first-round game. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Scottatlga on February 23, 2009, 10:14:17 PM
Just got back to Atlanta from my trip to Indiana & Kentucky for SCAC basketball!  Remember, my views are based on seeing only OU play this season (at home).  Friday night at DePauw was not pretty from OU's standpoint.  DePauw's Bigs had a really good game rebounding and scoring (Coach Huffman has a deeper bench than most of the teams I have seen and she subs them in very well).  The Petrels seemed to lose their confidence and swagger on Friday night.  But I have to tell you that the last 5 minutes of that game were really something to see with OU coming back form an 84-64 deficit to cut the lead to 4 and trail 88-84.  I heard several DePauw fans after the game saying that they got very nervous towards the end.  If only, they had started that run with 7 minutes to go instead of 5!

Sunday's game at Centre was a lot of fun to watch, as both teams were playing great ball - neither team could get that run and take command of the game.  Katie Kulavic had an outstanding game - 33 points on 14 of 17 shooting!  I was really happy to see her get the conference scoring record, but I have to tell you...Katie is a great individual player, no doubt, but she is the consummate team player - she only wants what is best for the team and it shows in her grit, determination and spirit on the court.  I have to agree with previous posts about Centre though - they are doing some really good things right now, but next year, they may just be the team to beat in the Eastern Division.  Any team that has to play them this weekend better come ready to play!

Looking forward to reports from Hendrix this weekend since I can't be there :(

Go Petrels!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Scottatlga on February 23, 2009, 10:29:28 PM
Forgot to mention...overall, the officiating was pretty even at both DePauw and Centre this weekend.  The calls were pretty balanced...with 2 exceptions - the Refs at DePauw refused to call 3 second violations on DePauw's women...there were blatant violations the whole game with DPU just camped out in the lane (could be why they lead the conference in rebounding margin).  The other officiating story came from one ref in the OU/Centre Men's game on Sunday...Coach Ponder from OU was working an official early on in the contest and the ref just went off and gave him a warning immediately (he must have gotten up on the wrong side of the bed, because he was just cranky).  I knew immediately that there were going to be issues later in the game and "Cranky Ref" did end up giving OU's bench a technical in the 2nd half.
The officiating is not terribly different than what I see down here (lack of consistency and no one calls 3 seconds in the lane).  The biggest problem has to be with consistency though - one play it's almost like someone tackles another player and nothing is called, the next minute, someone gets called for a touch and it interrupts the whole flow of the game!  I don't want to get down on the Refs, Heaven knows I couldn't do it, but if you are going to let them play, let them play and stick with it...stop going back and forth.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 24, 2009, 11:27:36 AM
Quote from: Scottatlga on February 23, 2009, 10:29:28 PM
The other officiating story came from one ref in the OU/Centre Men's game on Sunday...Coach Ponder from OU was working an official early on in the contest and the ref just went off and gave him a warning immediately (he must have gotten up on the wrong side of the bed, because he was just cranky).  I knew immediately that there were going to be issues later in the game and "Cranky Ref" did end up giving OU's bench a technical in the 2nd half.

Not sure what happened at the beginning of the game to set the ref off but the "witty" comment that drew the tech. was probably deserved...  ;)  I'm still laughing from that one.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 26, 2009, 01:00:09 AM
Some interesting scenarios brewing with these region rankings as we get down to the proverbial nitty gritty here....

Oglethorpe's still #1 in the South Region, but they've got a one loss Greensboro team with an undefeated region record right underneath them.

Yeah, sure the Pride have the 253rd ranked OWP and a OOWP that isn't much better, but what happens if Oglethorpe doesn't win the SCAC tourney this week?  Do they let OU stay #1 with the 4 region losses but a decent OWP while Greensboro finishes 24-0 in the region?  The Pride will probably run into CNU at some point in the USAC tourney, but that's a team they beat by 30 at home and by 2 on the road.  It's obviously moot if OU wins the whole darned thing, but something that we should probably keep in mind.  Greensboro is PROBABLY a team that Oglethorpe ought to beat, but you never know if that game is played in North Carolina instead of at the Dorough Fieldhouse.

At the same time, can DePauw get back to at least #2 in the Great Lakes if they win the whole thing this weekend?  They've got the GREAT OWP, something that neither Thomas More nor Hope can claim.  Maybe 3 more region wins can be the difference.  Hope is probably going to roll to the MIAA crown because they're the only good team in it, so it doesn't look like the Tigers will get any favors there.  However, Thomas More is likely to run into the Presidents of Wash & Jeff, which is a team they split with during the regular season.  Going to be an interesting weekend.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 27, 2009, 12:23:24 AM
Found an interesting video from the San Antonio-Express News (http://www.mysanantonio.com/videos/40377507.html) detailing how Trinity coach Amie Bradley manages the balance between coaching and raising her five young children.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 27, 2009, 02:46:49 PM
Doesn't look as though an upset is coming in the Rhodes-Trinity game. TU is up 33-24 at the break. The seeds are pretty much playing to the script.  Rhodes looks out of synch and simply happy to have earned 4th position in the east. No 3-balls are going in for Rhodes. Trinity looks determined to get on to the semis. Prado-Matthews looks her usual self again and has been hitting 8 to 10 footers from around the circle. Don't see much chance that the Lynx will make the 2nd half interesting.  Rhodes needs to get their guards going or they'll lose by 20.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 27, 2009, 03:34:20 PM
Good call, pbrooks3 - final TU 81, Rhodes 60.   KPM had 19 and 14 and Danielle Hubenak scored 22 points, pulled down eight rebounds,  and had seven assists.  Jenilee Pate had 12 to lead the Lynx.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 27, 2009, 06:21:41 PM
Hendrix got within five with 4:08 to play, but DPU goes on a 14-1 run to close out the game and wins 70-52.   For DePauw, Andrea Travelstead had 15 points and 10 rebounds, Emily Marshall 15 rebounds (10 offensive!), and Katie Aldrich scored 12.   Hendrix got 21/9 from Christina Byler and 12/7 from Samantha Clark. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 27, 2009, 07:37:14 PM
Anyone have the link for the Oglethorpe women's game?  I bought the pass but can't find the video link anywhere... it was there earlier today?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 27, 2009, 09:48:16 PM
Colorado College up at half 22-21. Pretty ugly in the 1st half.  Huter is a bring spot for the Colonels with 8. Need to get her more touches around the hoop. Goodman can drive it too. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 28, 2009, 03:21:36 AM
Everything played to the script on the SCAC quarter finals today with one exception - #3 in the east (Centre) beat #2 in the west (Colorado College).  This was another signature win for Centre pulling out a win in the tournament after a solid regular season finish this year.  The Colonels support crew was impressive tonight as well with many parents at the game along with the boys team cheering hard the entire second half when the Colonels put the game away against a very impressive CC squad.  Defense was the name of the game tonight as the Colonels held Colorado College to under 30% shooting for the game.  Centre's big three were big tonight with Goodman leading with 23 points, Huter putting up 18 and Pruett having 15. 

I believe the Lady Colonels are excited to have another chance to play Oglethorpe tomorrow afternoon after a tight 4-point loss last weekend at Centre.  It's fun and worth the effort to play on at this point.   Good luck Centre!   
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 28, 2009, 02:49:47 PM
We've got a high level D3 game going now with Trinity and DePauw tied at half 45-45. Impressive display of fast-paced b-ball and fine shooting. Not sure both teams can maintain the frenetic pace of the opening, but we'll see.  Great basketball the way it's meant to be played.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 28, 2009, 03:59:41 PM
Trinity defeats Depauw 98-80 ... which surprisingly is not the team's high output of the season.   Regardless, getting nearly to the century mark against a fine team like DePauw is unexpected. 

KPM played all 40 minutes, scored 27 points (15-of-15 from the line) and recorded 12 rebounds; Danielle Hubenak had 19 points, and Ali Marzella added 16 in 23 minutes.  DePauw was led by Emily Marshall's 15 points and 14 boards as well as Cassie Pruzin's 14 points and ten assists.  Coming off of yesterday's big game, Andrea Travelstead was in foul trouble all game and ended up fouling out after just 13 minutes and two points. 

Trinity shot 56% to DPU's 40%, enjoyed a 27-13 FT advantage, and had 7 turnovers to DePauw's 10.  DPU won the rebounding battle, 34-30, including a 16-5 edge on the offensive end.   
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 28, 2009, 04:01:01 PM
Trinity Women executed at a high level for 40 minutes in defeating DePauw.  They must have shot 75% from the field in the final 20 minutes.  I would not have predicted this today - honestly I thought DePauw would take control in the 2nd half, but it didn't happen. Wonderful ballgame to follow as a spectator. Now on to Oglethorpe-Centre. Hoping it's as thrilling as the 1st game.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 28, 2009, 04:43:30 PM
Good news for Oglethorpe, as well - Greensboro lost.  Obviously they want to win the whole darn thing, but they'll be #1 in South regardless of the outcome.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 28, 2009, 05:00:07 PM
The just announced the SCAC Postseason awards.  Congratulations to Melanie Auguste of Colorado College for being named Player of The Year.  Coach Wendy Austin Robinson of Centre was Coach of the Year and Hannah Brooks from Oglethorpe was Defensive Player of the Year while Maggie Prewitt was Newcomer of the Year

Also congrats to my OU girls  Anna Findley and Katie Kulavic (First team) and Tina Grace (Second team)... now lets take care of business in the second half.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 28, 2009, 05:58:30 PM
OU played liked the champs they are with a 20 point win today. Superior offensive execution and passing made for a relatively easy time of it for Oglethorpe. OU got steady performances from all of their seniors - great team effort. Tina Grace was a highlight film by herself today.

Centre team played with heart and passion, but simply ran into a buzzsaw today. Congrats to Centre seniors playing their final game today, Rebecca Rhule and Alison Denbow. It's been a pleasure to watch you both play and mature over the past four years.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Scottatlga on February 28, 2009, 06:06:18 PM
Great Game for OU Women today!  Go Petrels!  Very proud of the overall effort of this team and the recognition for Hannah as Defensive Player of the Year is well deserved!

I have to say that I am shocked that Coach Sattele has been passed over for Coach of the Year for the 4th straight year!  What does this man have to do?  He turned a team that never had a winning season into a national powerhouse and has been snubbed 4 straight years...last year, the reasoning was that OU lost to DePauw 2 times (I realize that OU lost a 3rd time after the COTY voting was completed).  I don't want to take anything away from the Centre Coach, she has done a fine job, but nothing at the level of Coach Sattele (this year, 14-0 at home; wins over DePauw, Thomas More, St. Norbert, Transylvania, Centre (twice); ranked as high as #2 (top 11 all season); achieved 100 career victories at Centre last week (reached milestone quicker than Coach Huffman, a multi-year winner of this award); took team to Final Four in 2008)!!

Now, if he has taken himself out of the running for the award, forgive my ranting, but if he hasn't, it's a terrible injustice.  Let's hope that the OU Women can give him a Conference Championship on Sunday!

:o
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Lou_Brown on February 28, 2009, 07:29:49 PM
Scott,

Don't worry...these are the same group of coaches who didn't vote Russ Churchwell player of the year when he lead the league in scoring and rebounding a few years back. The bottom line is the powerhouses in the SCAC don't like OU very much and never will, they beleive the Petrels bring down the conference as a whole.

There is no doubt that Coach Sattele should have won at LEAST 1 coach of the year honor in these fours years. Getting to the conference championship game 3 years in row, a final four appearacne and qualifying for the NCAA four striaght years is still not good enough for the coach of the year?? Geez.

Either way the Petrels will head to the NCAA for the 4th straight year and probably will get to host this time around. I'm not sure if they will get back to the Final Four but its been one helluva of a four year ride!

Go Petrels and bring back the SCAC Championship!!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 28, 2009, 08:04:52 PM
Ah.  So it's a conspiracy then?  Now I understand.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Scottatlga on February 28, 2009, 08:15:15 PM
Conspiracy...maybe...maybe not, but it's still hard to believe that he hasn't won the award at least one time.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 28, 2009, 08:42:50 PM
Is it really a surprise that Huffman won it ANY of the last 3 years?  Her team was undefeated in the conference last year.  Her national championship team had more overall and conference wins than any other team in 2006-07.  Was undefated in the conference again in 2005-6.  The only arugment I'll buy into on this issue over this particular time period is the 2005-06 season when OU had 21 wins after just 9 in 2004-05.  But, DePauw was 24-1 and 14-0 at the time of the announcement that year.  If DPU had OU's current record (24-3 and 12-2) in that particular season, then I believe Sattele would have won the award that year.

Even the most diehard Petey the Petrel fan has to recognize what Coach Austin Robinson has done at Centre.  They've won more games this year (19) than they have the previous 3 years combined (18).  The same is nearly true for conference games this year (10) and the last 3 years (11). 

This was a team that routinely lost by 30, 40, or even 50 to DePauw and Oglethorpe.  And to come back this year and not only play Oglethorpe to 4, but to beat DePauw is a remarkable achievement for a team that has a 101-48 loss on the ledger from not THAT many years ago.  That can't be ignored, can it?  How is that not COTY worthy?

EDIT: That and the Churchwell argument is completely irrelevant.  There are exactly 0 people who voted on the 2008 Women's COTY who voted on the 2004 Men's POTY.  Awful hard for it to be the same group of coaches when the women's coaches vote on the women's side and the men's coaches vote on the men's side.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on February 28, 2009, 10:34:34 PM
Oglethorpe enjoyed a similar turnaround in Sattele's second season...

Lets compare the 3 years before Sattele's magical run to OU's first NCAA tournament Apperance

Total wins from '03-'05 (28)   wins in 06 (21)
Conference wins from '03-'05 (11)   wins in 06 (10)

Not only are those numbers fairly similar to Centre's but Sattele also guided his team to the NCAA tournament- Center will be watching at home.  I'm not at all saying that Coach Austin Robinson is not worthy of the award, she definitely turned around a Centre team that was not very good, I'm merely giving evidence that shows Sattele has similar credentials.

This year Sattele had just an impressive resume as ever... Preseason #2 ranked in the top 11 all season...24 wins to only 3 loses (all to teams ranked in the top 25 at some point)... another berth in the SCAC Finals as well as a NCAA tournament appearance... 100 career wins in 5 seasons.... plus he still has that killer beard!  I don't know what more a man has to do.  Then again that may be the problem- they might only give the COTY award to women...?  Regardless, Congratulations on another Wonderful season Coach Sattele and the Oglethorpe University Stormy Petrels!

Quote from: Wes Anderson on February 28, 2009, 08:42:50 PM

EDIT: That and the Churchwell argument is completely irrelevant.  There are exactly 0 people who voted on the 2008 Women's COTY who voted on the 2004 Men's POTY.  Awful hard for it to be the same group of coaches when the women's coaches vote on the women's side and the men's coaches vote on the men's side.

I think the point Lou was trying to get across was that the SCAC as a whole looks down apon Oglethorpe with the opinion that they bring the conference down.  In their eyes it may look bad if someone from Oglethorpe were to win the POTY or COTY award... that is unless we're talking about Golf. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopsfan11 on March 01, 2009, 12:32:34 AM
I know that Coach Sattele is the last one to want personal recognition.  He is very much a team player, but seriously, what do you want from him???  How does he not deserve COTY at least once in the last 4 years.  The turnaround he made with OU when this group of girls were freshmen was easily as impressive if not more so than what the Centre coach has done this year.  I'm not trying to take anything away from her.  She has done a great job of turning that program back around, but Sattele has had more success turning a program around than she has.  Centre was a powerhouse in the conference several years ago.  OU never was before Sattele.  I'm sure he would much rather have a conference championship and a good run in the NCAAs, though!  Go petrels!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on March 01, 2009, 03:24:38 AM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on February 28, 2009, 10:34:34 PM
Oglethorpe enjoyed a similar turnaround in Sattele's second season...

Lets compare the 3 years before Sattele's magical run to OU's first NCAA tournament Apperance

Total wins from '03-'05 (28)   wins in 06 (21)
Conference wins from '03-'05 (11)   wins in 06 (10)

Not only are those numbers fairly similar to Centre's but Sattele also guided his team to the NCAA tournament- Center will be watching at home.  I'm not at all saying that Coach Austin Robinson is not worthy of the award, she definitely turned around a Centre team that was not very good, I'm merely giving evidence that shows Sattele has similar credentials.

That may be true, but that particular season, DePauw was #4 in the county entering the SCAC tourney and had all but slayed the year-in-and-year-out giant that was the Trinity Tigers (EDIT: And had won their 23rd consecutive game on the day the award was announced).  If Oglethorpe was a one loss team that was undefeated in the conference this year, then Coach Sattele would have won it going away, in my opinion.  Yeah, they have 3 losses, and yeah, they're a Top 10 team, but that's not the same as chewing up the ENTIRE conference and spitting it out, which was what DePauw did that season.  That was my original point on that particular season.  If Oglethorpe is 13-0 right now, then he's got the award.  They're not.  That probably swayed one or two votes to Coach Austin Robison.

All the NCAA appearances and the final four appearance don't matter in this award.  The last 4 years don't matter in this award.  It's not the Coach Of The Half Decade Award.  The pre-season rank doesn't matter in this award.  It's how you coach your team through the regular season, and maybe one or two more wins gets him the award.  I imagine the voting was rather close between Coach Austin Robinson, Coach Satelle, and Coach Huffman.  Let's not forget she got to 22 wins with her best player seeing a grand total of zero minutes this season.  I imagine she got a few first place votes herself.  Not many in the country who could duplicate that feat. 

I also don't particularly care what Lou's original point was, unless he feels some urge to reword it to be more informed.  To say that the same coaches who were responsible for that (which, btw, was only ONE coach) are responsible for this is a complete crock.  Obviously the men's coaches had no say in this, and furthermore,  among the coaches who voted in this year's womens' awards, there are only three coaches not named Ron Sattele who were even AROUND WHEN THAT HAPPENED.  The other three are Kris Huffman, Matt Dean and Dickie McCarthy.  Kris Huffman can't vote for herself, and is far from the type to try to win herself the award by throwing the voting.  Same goes for Dean and McCarthy.  They're two of the most honorable and highest caliber guys you'll find anywhere.  There's no fix on here, friends.  If there was, who's putting it on? Dwayne Hanberry?  Amie Bradley?  Pam Ruder?  Me?  The Easter Bunny?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 01, 2009, 03:55:09 AM
Quote from: Wes Anderson on March 01, 2009, 03:24:38 AM
[  The pre-season rank doesn't matter in this award.  It's how you coach your team through the regular season, and maybe one or two more wins gets him the award.  I imagine the voting was rather close between Coach Austin Robinson, Coach Satelle, and Coach Huffman.  Let's not forget she got to 22 wins with her best player seeing a grand total of zero minutes this season.  I imagine she got a few first place votes herself.  Not many in the country who could duplicate that feat. 

You're right... maybe a few more wins would have done it... I mean we're up to 23 now? Guess that's not good enough.  Maybe wins wasn't the deciding factor, maybe it was loses.  Centre did have a healthy 9 loses... and maybe if we could have scheduled them a 4th time they would have 10.

To be honest Wes... I think you just flat out don't like Oglethorpe and maybe even Coach Sattele for that matter.  Give some credit where credit is due and admit that Sattele should have won the award this year, he was a more deserving coach and the fact that he didn't is a shame.  If you can't do that then there's really no use in talking to you- you're just another ignorant yankee.

Quote from: Wes Anderson on March 01, 2009, 03:24:38 AM

I also don't particularly care what Lou's original point was, unless he feels some urge to reword it to be more informed.  To say that the same coaches who were responsible for that (which, btw, was only ONE coach) are responsible for this is a complete crock. 

Care to let us know who that ONE COACH was?  Oh yeah that's right... it was the Depauw coach- how typical.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Lou_Brown on March 01, 2009, 08:52:15 AM
Wes,

Not a conspiracy...B.S.....yeah, that's about right. I know the SAME coaches did not vote for both awards. My point was the SCAC in general looks down at OU. Some on this message boards a while back even made the comments that OU should join the GSAC or some other silly conference.

And I would love to see the coach of the year vote (all votes for that matter). That would open everyone's eyes....My guess is he received 1 vote for coach of the year....maybe none last year.

and speaking of Churchwell, How was he not one of the top 10 players in the league that year on one ballot?? When someone can explain that with a rational thought, then I will apologize for all of my comments.

If your criteria for coach of the year is a turnaround year then he should have won it the FIRST year he went to the NCAA, but I thought when you go to the NCAA for FOUR straight years maybe someone can get a little bit of recognition.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CAMP_FOLLOWER on March 01, 2009, 09:46:30 AM
YOU  ARE FORGETTING WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT. OUR DAUGHTERS GETTING AN EDUCATION AND LEARNING TO BE GOOD CITIZENS. OUR CONFERENCE IS JUST A REFLECTION OF OUR SOCIETY TODAY. IF SCHOOLS ARE BIG AND HAVE ENOUGH MONEY THEY FEEL THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO TRAMPLE THE HOPE AND DREAMS OF WHAT THEY FEEL ARE THE LESSER FOLKS. YOU GO TO THEIR HOUSE YOU HAVE TO SUFFER THRU THE MOST ONE SIDED OFFICIATING IMAGINABLE. OUR TOURNAMENT HAS BEEN A RELIEF THE OFFICIATING HAS HAD ITS MOMENTS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE COURT BUT OVERALL IT HAS BEEN FAIR. TODAY AGAIN WILL BE THE GIANT AGAINST THE LITTLE. GOOD LUCK TO BOTH.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 01, 2009, 10:20:02 AM
Playing the "everyone hates us" card is unlikely to make anyone think more favorably about Oglethorpe.  I don't think anyone "hates" Oglethorpe and you can't help but be impressed by what both programs have done. 

Expressing an opinion contrary to the "nobody respects OU" posts here does not mean one dislikes the Stormy Petrels, who, contrary to the opinion posted by CAMP_FOLLOWER will be the favorites to win today against an opponent that has only one senior and one junior, and a very short bench. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on March 01, 2009, 01:20:29 PM
I think Ron Sattele is getting his comeuppance today with what is tracking to be a SCAC title today. OU is up 10 with 6:10 left in the 1st half
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on March 01, 2009, 01:29:53 PM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on March 01, 2009, 03:55:09 AM

You're right... maybe a few more wins would have done it... I mean we're up to 23 now? Guess that's not good enough.  Maybe wins wasn't the deciding factor, maybe it was loses.  Centre did have a healthy 9 loses... and maybe if we could have scheduled them a 4th time they would have 10.

You're completely missing my point here.  There's a reason Huffman won it in 2005 and Satelle didn't win it this year.  That's my point.  Each season is it's own different entity.  When a coach has a turnaround like Centre had this year, you almost have to run the table to win COTY.  The coaches in this league have proven that year in and year out regardless of the turnover.  It's hard enough to even compare those two years because 5 of the coaches who voted in this year's COTY award weren't even around to vote in the 2005 COTY award. 

Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on March 01, 2009, 03:55:09 AMTo be honest Wes... I think you just flat out don't like Oglethorpe and maybe even Coach Sattele for that matter.  Give some credit where credit is due and admit that Sattele should have won the award this year, he was a more deserving coach and the fact that he didn't is a shame.  If you can't do that then there's really no use in talking to you- you're just another ignorant yankee.

I think Coach Sattele is a wonderful coach and an even better person to be a part of this conference.  I've had the pleasure to speak with him on several occasions and interview him a few more during my WGRE time.  I can't say anything negative about the guy and I think he knows that's how I feel.  I have the same wonderful things to say about about Katie Kulavic, Coach Ponder, Andrew Tulowitski, Russ Churchwell, Ahmad Kareem Shaheed, Coach Giordano, Hoyt Young, and all other Oglethorpe staff and faculty who I've also with.  I feel the same way about every single coach and staff member from any sport I've EVER dealt with from every single SCAC member school, and that's a pretty lengthy list. 

The thing you people have to understand is that a lot of Division III sports fans get their picture of a particular institution from the posters who represent their particular schools on this board.  The whole Oglethorpe "Woe is us!  Nobody loves us!" act gets pretty old.  In the minds of Oglethorpe posters, not the coaches, players, or staff - just you guys, you don't get beat.  You haven't honestly gotten beat in 3 years.  You've gotten screwed about 10 times with officiating, or the facilities, or the home fans were being jerks.  It's always something.  Just flat getting outplayed never happen with you guys.  Trust me, contrary to your belief, nobody's out to get you.  If you asked Coach Sattele, one of his assistants, or one of his players, I'm sure they have a different take on it than you do.

It doesn't really matter who I think should win the award because I don't get a vote.  I tried to explain to you why coaches voted for Austin Robinson, and cited previous examples of why the coaches didn't vote for Satelle in 2005.  You didn't want any of that, and that's fine.  My vote would have been for Ron Satelle, but had I of been the head coach of a SCAC women's basketball team, I probably would have been fired long before the point in the season when I would have cast my vote.

What I think is really remarkable is how Coach Austin Robinson must feel reading this discussion about how her winning the award is a load of crap and your coach is getting the royal screw job.  That's what I find to be particularly unfortunate and probably rather offensive to her.  Good luck in the dance.  If DePauw can't win it, you guys better.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on March 01, 2009, 01:37:24 PM
Quote from: Lou_Brown on March 01, 2009, 08:52:15 AM
and speaking of Churchwell, How was he not one of the top 10 players in the league that year on one ballot?? When someone can explain that with a rational thought, then I will apologize for all of my comments.

If your criteria for coach of the year is a turnaround year then he should have won it the FIRST year he went to the NCAA, but I thought when you go to the NCAA for FOUR straight years maybe someone can get a little bit of recognition.

It's not my place to tell you who the coach was, and I'm not going to respond to FotP's cheap shot, condescending accusation, but I've heard the same rumor from several people that one coach left him off entirely, which probably cost him the award.  I don't know why.  I agree that's it not a very cool thing to do, particular with the numbers he had.  I was just as outraged as everybody else when that award was announced.  But, that particular person didn't vote in this award.  That's my rational thought.  The best I can do.  Sorry.

The criteria you posted there is not MY criteria for the COTY award.  I'm trying to explain why the coaches voted the way they did.  If Oglethorpe had DePauw's 2005 year this year, then he wins the award.  He didn't win the award that year he turned around because DePauw had one of the best seasons in this conference's history.  If he keeps doing what he's doing, he'll win one.

Also, I say again for extreme clarity that his last four years worth of results have absolutely nothing to do with the Coach of the Year award.  It's a wonderful accomplishment, but it's not relevant to voting for this award.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopsfan11 on March 01, 2009, 02:28:10 PM
Congratulations to the new conference champions - Stormy Petrels!!! 
All-tournament team: Krista Prado-Matthews and Danielle Hubenak from TU and Katie Kulavic, Anna Findley, and Tina Grace from OU.
Great all-around effort from the Petrels with Grace pulling out a double-double (18pts, 10 rebounds).  Findley poured in 27 points, and Kulavic had 24.  Richmann pulled down 15 rebounds. 
For Trinity, Hubenak had 21 pts and 8 rebounds.  Marzella added 17 points.  KPM was held to 10 points and 5 rebounds.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 01, 2009, 02:48:22 PM
Congrats to the Lady Petrels 2009 SCAC Champions!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on March 01, 2009, 04:52:21 PM
Pat's Women's projections are out. (http://www.d3hoops.com/women-final-four/09/projected.htm)

In summation, he has DePauw in as the 3rd seed in what I'm calling the "Great Lakes" and hosting Baldwin Wallace (EDIT: I'm stupid.  They'll go to Thomas More to play BW in the first round and then and face the winner of TMC/Pitt-Greensburg).  However, Baldwin Wallace is his last team in, so if HPU loses in the ASC Championship game (up one in OT as I write this) they'll need a Pool C, BW doesn't get in, and this whole thing will probably be different  Howard Payne won.  Nevermind.

Oglethorpe hosts as the #1 in what I'll call the South.  He prognosticates that they're hosting a 4 team regional with a first round match-up against Murvyl.  Greensboro and Transy are also attending and make up a pretty darn winnable 4 team pod for the Petrels.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on March 01, 2009, 05:30:41 PM
One more quick thing about this whole playoff deal - what really scares me is that whoever is eventually going to win this thing is probably going to have to beat Hope at home.  They're pretty likely going to be at DeVos until they hoist the trophy or somebody beats 'em.  DePauw could have had them come to the Neal Fieldhouse and then DePauw could have went to DeVos for the final four without Hope being there, but those couple of losses @ Centre and against TU yesterday sealed that fate.

Scary stuff to say the least.  I don't really want go into that bulding with 3,500 strong dressed in orange in that student section.  Yikes. 

Maybe they get pulled away to IWU for the round of 8, but we'll see.  I know the Fightin' Titans are hoping for that, at least.

EDIT: I'm told by somebody a heckuva lot smarter than me that while the women have site priority in the first and second round, the men have it in the third and fourth round.  So if Hope's men get that far (which is hard to tell, they aren't as good as years past) maybe the Hope women get moved out of there so the men can host.  That might be a reach, though. 

I thought that since the hosting priority alternated from year to year, it was that way for the entire tournament.  But it flip flops in two round increments.  Women get priority in the first two rounds in odd numbered years.  Then men in the next two rounds.  Flip flop those in even numbered years, obviously.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ccfan on March 01, 2009, 06:15:39 PM
Weighing in on the COTY award.  Certainly the coach at Centre is very deserving of the award, but the argument that her team's major improvement this year over the past several years makes her a more viable choice for the award than Oglethorpe's Satelle is ironic.  Coach Austin and Coach Satelle both recruited all of the ladies they currently are coaching.  Because Coach Satelle had more success with his group their sophomore and junior seasons than did Coach Austin, he did not have as dramatic improvement this year over last.  Using the dramatic improvement argument punishes a coach who has had quick and exceptional results.

Congratulations to Coach Austin on a well deserved award.  Kudos to Coach Satelle, although not recognized by an award everyone in the SCAC should have great respect for your unparalleled success.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 02, 2009, 11:24:41 AM
Congrats to both Oglethorpe and Depauw for making the NCAA tournament.  Oglethorpe gets to host while DPU travels and will most likely have a second round matchup with #1 Illinois Wesleyan.  I'm sure Huffman will have these girls ready to play to avenge a narrow 1 point defeat at a neautral site earlier this season.

Oglethorpe will host a bracket that includes a first round matchup against Murvull   and the winner of Greensboro and Mississippi College.  (Anyone have any information on these teams?)

Finally I'd like to round up all the Dorough Delinquents to help make this a true home court advantage!!!


GO STORMY PETRELS!!!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on March 02, 2009, 12:02:36 PM
All I know is that Greensboro beat Murvul like a drum at their place in the first game after the holiday break.  I think the S. Petrels should overlook Murvul and concentrate on the second round.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 02, 2009, 12:44:23 PM
Gee, scottie, I don't think you have to worry about Coach Satelle overlooking anyone.   :D

Congratulations to Oglethorpe and DePauw - those teams will, as always, represent the SCAC well, and are the two teams which deserve to be in the playoffs. 

Congratulations are in order to the Trinity women who managed to defeat both SCAC playoff representatives during the season with the youngest Tiger ballclub in recent memory.  I wish Krista Prato-Matthews would have had a chance to go out with a playoff run, but the SCAC's all-time leading rebounder had a fine season (despite injury) and career.   Good luck, Krista, you will be missed.    I know the TU softball team will be happy to see you. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on March 02, 2009, 02:12:08 PM
I don't think either of our teams got a particularly favorable draw.  Oglethorpe's got a prety winnable 4 team pod next weekend, but they've got undefeated #3 George Fox looming in the third round.  If they get through that, they're probably heading to the DeVos Fieldhouse to see the Dutch.

I thought DePauw could get a Thomas More type the first weekend and get out of there before the Hope/IWU trip.  But, they're right in the fire at the Shirk Center.  It's UW-Eau Claire before the unanimous #1 team in the country.  I'm not predicting an upset or anything, but if there's some possible way they find to get by IWU, that turns into a pretty winnable bracket for them, I think.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopsbeam on March 04, 2009, 02:09:20 PM
Oglethorpe and Coach Satelle deserve a lot of credit for not just this season but for four fine years in a row with this current class. They consistently demonstrate a good understanding of the game of basketball highlighted by outstanding ball movement on offense.
They did a fantastic job in the league tournament as well, beating Trinity after having lost to them convincingly earlier in the season at TU. Oglethorpe benefited some from TU's lack of direction resulting in one-on-one basketball with little to no ball movement while seldom getting the ball inside to Prato-Matthews. Coaching matters.
Why not wait until all the important league games have been played before making the COTY award? Good luck to the SCAC in the tournament.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WWWRHH on March 04, 2009, 02:38:21 PM
Quote from: Wes Anderson on March 02, 2009, 02:12:08 PM
I don't think either of our teams got a particularly favorable draw.  Oglethorpe's got a prety winnable 4 team pod next weekend, but they've got undefeated #3 George Fox looming in the third round.  If they get through that, they're probably heading to the DeVos Fieldhouse to see the Dutch.

By way of introduction, I am a Hope fan lurking on your board because I just noticed Pat's projection that Olglethorpe will defeat the Dutch in our regional.  If we are fortunate enough to both get that far it will be on the same floor that you play George Fox, and I am not sure it will be in Holland.  Given the geography of the Messiah round, an Atlanta location may make sense to the NCAA - although I hope that's not the case.

Obviously, our teams need to get past this round, but if we are fortunate enough to do so and you get to come to Holland, we will try to arrange a mid-March blizzard so you can see what real snow looks like :).  If the Dutch go south....well at least I already have short sleeve orange shirts.

A quick review of your website indicates their are Big differences between the Dutch and Stormy Petrel styles.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 04, 2009, 04:15:07 PM
If Thomas More and Oglethorpe and Hope advance, count on it being held at Thomas More, which is the only site of the three drivable from two of the others.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 04, 2009, 04:31:53 PM
Quote from: WWWRHH on March 04, 2009, 02:38:21 PM

Obviously, our teams need to get past this round, but if we are fortunate enough to do so and you get to come to Holland, we will try to arrange a mid-March blizzard so you can see what real snow looks like :).  If the Dutch go south....well at least I already have short sleeve orange shirts.


We made it to Holland last year and that blizzard was plenty... no need to schedule another one  ;)  But in case you do we'll bring the Long Sleeved Black "Give Em The Bird" shirts-  we planned for the playoffs and inclement weather.

I don't think Thomas More is any better- they too received ample amount of snow last year and I almost didn't make it up there...

Let call off the weather battles and all play in SUNNY GEORGIA!  We received our yearly snow last week so we should see good weather from here on out.

Good luck to all teams!    but GO PETRELS!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WWWRHH on March 04, 2009, 04:48:47 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 04, 2009, 04:15:07 PM
If Thomas More and Oglethorpe and Hope advance, count on it being held at Thomas More, which is the only site of the three drivable from two of the others.

Kentucky in mid-March, I guess that would mean I would have to pack the orange sweater with the short sleeve orange shirts :).

Not as good as home, but still a location that would draw a big fan base and certainly less expensive than a flight to Texas.

FlightofthePetrel I had forgotten that you were in Holland last year.  I was still in mourning  :( and left town that weekend.

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on March 04, 2009, 05:20:20 PM
Pat Coleman thinks the Petrels will do quite well this weekend.  Take a look at his predictions

http://www.d3hoops.com/women-final-four/09/preview.htm

As a Murvul fan, I ask y'all down there to make sure the Petrels see this so they can spend Friday night thinking about their route to victory!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 04, 2009, 10:37:09 PM
Quote from: scottiedoug on March 04, 2009, 05:20:20 PM
Pat Coleman thinks the Petrels will do quite well this weekend.  Take a look at his predictions

http://www.d3hoops.com/women-final-four/09/preview.htm

As a Murvul fan, I ask y'all down there to make sure the Petrels see this so they can spend Friday night thinking about their route to victory!

Scott I assure you the girls have seen it and they think very highly of Mr. Pat Coleman.  They will be damned if the dissapoint a man in his position.  Consider this motivation to live up to expectations and not dissapoint rather than thinking that the job has already done.  The 6 seniors (5 starters) have been here to long to overlook anyone.  Dorough will be ready this weekend...
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on March 05, 2009, 12:02:11 AM
Yeah that is what I am afraid of.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hendrixfan on March 05, 2009, 09:30:00 AM
The Hendrix website reports this morning that Chris Hitchcock is out as the Warriors head coach.  Men's asst Thad McCracken will take over, and Amber Jean will remain as asst. coach.

Expect the Warriors to show immediate improvement with McCracken.  McCracken is ready for a head coaching job.  He was well-liked by the players, and has been the leader in recruiting as the Hendrix men rebuilt their program.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopsfan11 on March 06, 2009, 08:46:51 PM
Oglethorpe holds a narrow 4 point at the half.  After shooting the ball extremely poorly in the opening 10-15 minutes, they finally started to get going in the last 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 06, 2009, 10:11:01 PM
Oglethorpe comes away with a narrow 3 point victory as Anna Findley bury's a 3 under the one minute mark. The Petrels had 2 great defensive stands, back to back, as Maryville attempted two 3 pointers in hopes of sending the game to overtime.

Maryville played an outstanding game as #23 Heyboer and Alexis Rouvelis put the team in their back and kept the game tight the entire second half... I don't think Heybier missed after going scoreless in the first half.

Congrats to the Petrels on the win and the Scot for a great effort... If the was played in Tennessee I think the outcome would be reversed. The Dorough Delinquents made the difference in this game as we had the most crowd supports as I've ever seen in my 5 years. Hopefully we'll have am equally impressive turnout tomorrow against Greensboro.


Go Petrels!!!!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 06, 2009, 11:50:59 PM
Really... there's no more chatter about this game?  Scottiedoug? 

After examining the stats a little closer I find it amazing that OU had all of it's points put up by the starting 5.  The bench only took 2 shots (and missed both).  While I will rant and rave all day long that our starting 5 is as good or better than any other team in the country they WILL NEED contributions from their bench to advance past tomorrow's game.

While Kulavic and Findley both play all 40 minutes of tonights game I have no doubt that both will be willing and ready to go the full 40 again tomorrow if need be.  Sattele has this team conditioned to the extreme and any player could play the full game if needed.

I can't wait til 7 p.m. tomorrow for the Greensboro game.  My freshman year roomate transfered from OU after his first semester to his hometown Greensboro College.  OU Men's tennis beat G'boro just a few weeks ago (a team that he plays on) and we'll look to keep an undefeated record against them this year with a win tomorrow.


GO PETRELS!!!!!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on March 06, 2009, 11:57:53 PM
I am proud of the Scots and the year they had under a new coach with a new system.  I knew Oglethorpe would be ready and thought the Scots could hang with them.  I was right.  Good luck to the Petrels against Greensboro and thereafter! 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 07, 2009, 02:09:37 AM
Scottiedoug... The energy coach wright brings to the game is evident in his players... He will do good things and restore the amaryville tradition, I'm sure of it. Congrats on a successful season!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on March 07, 2009, 12:16:44 PM
What does next year look like for the Petrels?  (You can wait to reply...I do not mean to divert attention from the task at hand).  I hope they keep the 2 game MC-OU schedule.

Maryville loses a lot of people and has only one freshman (Heyboer, who is going to be really good).  I imagine Coach Wright will recruit well but it will still be people new to his scheme.   
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 07, 2009, 02:38:24 PM
Congratulations to the Lady Scots...

You made that game closer than most expected!  Plenty of fans were sweating their pick'ems there for a while!  :)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 07, 2009, 08:22:42 PM
Oglethorpe up 61-27 with 6:36 left... This game is over... Time to celebrate in Buckhead!!! Peachtree Tavern is calling my name!!!!!!!!

Go Petrels!!!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on March 08, 2009, 02:28:57 PM
So Flight.  Greensboro beat Maryville by a whole lot right after the holidays at their place and y'all handled them pretty easily after Maryville made you work. What did you see that makes any sense of this?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 08, 2009, 05:20:15 PM
I think there were alot of factors:

First in the Maryville game there was alot of history between these two teams.  Having played the Scots yearly, including two NCAA tournament games, Maryville was gunning for the Petrels from the opening tip and had much more energy than Greensboro did.  The Petrels have been the underdog the past few seasons... living in Depauw's shadow as the 2nd best team in the conference until this year.  Finally we're the team that everyone is gunning to beat and I think there were a few nerves playing in front of such a large hostile crowd that was actually rooting for them.  Dorough has never seen crowds as big and loud as this and therefore I think it took a little bit of time for the ladies to adjust to such a new environment.  

As for the Greensboro match... Both teams started off slow and I think nerves were a factor again.  After the girls got comfortable with playing in front of such a loud crowd again they began to take off.  Greensboro, on the other hand, was distracted by the loud and vocal crowd all evening long.  In the first half the student section started a 5,4,3,2,1 countdown of the shotclock that forced #30 to put up an off balance 3 pointer that didn't even draw iron.... the shotclock by the way was only at 13.  That only gave the crowd more reason to be loud and become an even larger factor in the game.  This translated into a  12.5% 3 point field goal percentage and  20% field goal percentage for that game for the Pride.  The reigning USA South Conference player of the year was held to a dismal 1-12 shooting (1-5) for the line that translated into only 5 points.  Obviously she's a good player who had an off night at the worst possible time.

Those are just a few of my observations but make no mistake this group of girls (5 senior starters) are extremely focused right now and are firing on all cylinders.  The sectional at Thomas More is going to be extremely competitive but I feel confident will emerge battle tested and ready for another trip to Holland.

GO PETRELS!!!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 08, 2009, 07:20:01 PM
Oglethorpe is the sole SCAC survivor into either Sweet 16 ... so GO STORMY PETRELS!!!!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on March 08, 2009, 10:50:24 PM
I second that, Ron! 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 10, 2009, 11:03:34 AM
Congratulations to Melanie Auguste who was named the 2009 Jostens Women's play of the year!  This is a great honor for not only Auguste but also Colorado College and the SCAC.

From the News Release:

"Auguste was the first player in Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference history to lead the league in scoring (20.2 points per game) and assists (7.1). She finished her career as the program's all-time leader with 607 assists and 243 steals. She also ranks No. 3 with 1,572 points and 100 three-point baskets, and is No. 4 with 815 rebounds. Auguste has a 3.74 GPA in economics and is a nominee for a Rhodes Scholarship. She takes part in Habitat for Humanity at Colorado College and was a founding editor of a student-run academic journal called the Rocky Mountain Undergraduate Review."
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 10, 2009, 12:11:31 PM
"Oglethorpe University head women's basketball coach Ron Sattele, after leading his Petrels to the program's first-ever SCAC title and a fourth-consecutive trip to the NCAA Tournament, has been named the 2009 Russell Athletic/WBCA Division III Region Coach of the Year. "

Not bad for a guy who didn't even win COY honors in his own conference...
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 10, 2009, 01:16:15 PM
From the SCAC Website...

The Women's Basketball Coaches Association (WBCA), in cooperation with State Farm, announced the finalists for the 2009 State Farm Coaches' All-America Basketball for NCAA Division III, and among the 42 finalists are Colorado College's Melanie Auguste and Oglethorpe University's Katie Kulavic. http://www.wbca.org/Releases/SFCAATFinalistsDIII09.html (http://www.wbca.org/Releases/SFCAATFinalistsDIII09.html)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 10, 2009, 02:27:33 PM
From the D3hoops home page (http://www.d3hoops.com/):

Jimmy Bartolotta and Melanie Auguste have been named winners of the 2009 Jostens Trophy, D3hoops.com has learned.

In voting concluded before the beginning of the NCAA Tournament, Bartolotta, a senior guard for MIT, and Auguste, a senior guard at Colorado College, were the top men's and women's vote-getter among 10 finalists. Voters ranked each of the 10 finalists from top to bottom, and finalists were evaluated based on basketball ability, academics and community service.

[...]

Auguste was the first player in Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference history to lead the league in scoring (20.2 points per game) and assists (7.1). She finished her career as the program's all-time leader with 607 assists and 243 steals. She also ranks No. 3 with 1,572 points and 100 three-point baskets, and is No. 4 with 815 rebounds. Auguste has a 3.74 GPA in economics and is a nominee for a Rhodes Scholarship. She takes part in Habitat for Humanity at Colorado College and was a founding editor of a student-run academic journal called the Rocky Mountain Undergraduate Review.

Bartolotta and Auguste will receive their awards at a ceremony in Salem, Va., on Thursday, March 19. It's the 12th year the award has been presented to the top all-around student-athlete in Division III men's and women's basketball.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopsfan11 on March 10, 2009, 03:09:39 PM
Also of note, Coach Sattele was name Women's College Basketball Coach of the Year for the state of Georgia for all levels, and Katie Kulavic was named Georgia Women's College Basketball Player of the Year for all levels by the Atlanta Tipoff Club.
Congrats to all of the SCAC postseason award winners.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CAMP_FOLLOWER on March 10, 2009, 03:19:30 PM
THAT GROUP IS PROBABLY FACT AND FIGURE DRIVEN INSTEAD OF EMOTIONALLY DRIVEN  WHEN DECIDING WHO AND WHEN TO HONOR . CONGRATS TO A GREAT COACH, HE MAY NOT BE PRETTY BUT HE DOES A GREAT JOB WITH THE GIRLS AS BASKETBALL PLAYERS AND AS YOUNG WOMEN.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 13, 2009, 03:29:23 PM
Flight has touched down in Florence Y'all!!!   I'm can't wait for the game that starts in an hour and a half.  Last year Oglethorpe ended Thomas More's perfect season and the Petrels will look to do the same thing this year as they take on #3 and UNDEFEATED George Fox.  Call me crazy but I'm taking the Petrels in the one!!!!

Check out Russell Kramer as he tweets during the game   http://twitter.com/SCAC_Sports


All other links for Live video, radio, stats etc. can be found here.   http://www.scacsports.com/sports/wbkb/2008-09/news/petrels_sectional


GO PETRELS!!!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 13, 2009, 05:40:59 PM
Oglethorpe is down 35-27 at the half after being down big.  Don't get mad at me Wes for saying that I think one ref in particular is still a little bitter from last year but he's having a sub par game.

George Fox is dominating the offensive glass and making quite a good percentage of their 3 pointers.

The Petrels played one of their worst halves... For whatever reason (zone d, unfamiliar surroundings, bad play etc.) but I'm still confident about the second half.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 13, 2009, 06:38:51 PM
Oglethorpe's season came to an end with a 71-56 defeats at the hands of George Fox. We just didnt have it today and the Bruins hit all the big shots. OU tied it at 44 in the second but that is as close as they would come. Great season for OU and a big shout out to my seniors! Ya'll will be missed!

Go Petrels!!!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopsfan11 on March 13, 2009, 11:11:05 PM
Congratulations on a great career to the Oglethorpe seniors.  Everyone in Petrel Nation is so proud of all that you have accomplished!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CAMP_FOLLOWER on March 14, 2009, 04:09:35 AM
THE OU GIRLS DESERVED BETTER FROM THE NCAA. THE OFFICIATING WAS A JOKE.

IT HAS BEEN A GREAT 4 YEARS AT OU AND I WILL MISS IT.
.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on March 14, 2009, 10:58:13 AM
Did not see Oglethorpe's game against George Fox, but another fine year for ladies' basketball at OU. As a Centre supporter, I wish all of the seniors well in their future endeavors, but I must say it does not pain me to know Coach Sattele will have to reload to some extent for the 2009-10 season. Congratulations, Oglethorpe.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BlueZoneBruin on March 14, 2009, 12:54:19 PM
Quote from: CAMP_FOLLOWER on March 14, 2009, 04:09:35 AM
THE OU GIRLS DESERVED BETTER FROM THE NCAA. THE OFFICIATING WAS A JOKE.

Really? As I watched the game there were some poor calls and poor non-calls, but I don't think they were one-sided at all.  Both teams had to deal with the same officiating. Fox was called for more fouls than OU too: 14-12. FT attempts were even as well with Fox getting one more 13-12.

Overall, I think Fox just had a better game.
FG %: Fox 42%-OU 35%
3-PT %: Fox 40%-Ou 23.5%
Rebounds: Fox 42-OU 34
Turnovers: Fox 16-OU 17
Steals: Fox 10-OU 7
Assists: Fox 15-OU 14

The only statistical category that OU won was FT%: Fox 69%-OU 83%

The Petrels played hard, but Fox was the better team.  Ultimately, the stingy Fox defense (third best in Div III) held the third best offensive team in Div III to its lowest output of the season, 56 points (previously low: 63 at Southwestern).  This was 23 points below their season average.  So, let's not blame this one on the NCAA and the refs.

Hope to see you all again next year, ideally with one of us hosting, instead of the little Cracker Jack gym at TMC.

BlueZoneBruin
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on March 14, 2009, 04:05:45 PM
Quote from: BlueZoneBruin on March 14, 2009, 12:54:19 PM
Hope to see you all again next year, ideally with one of us hosting, instead of the little Cracker Jack gym at TMC.

Don't like the Conor Convocation Center, eh? 

That gym is quickly gaining reputation as a SCAC killer.  DePauw has seen their season end on that floor in recent history, as well.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BlueZoneBruin on March 14, 2009, 04:44:48 PM
Quote from: Wes Anderson on March 14, 2009, 04:05:45 PM

Don't like the Conor Convocation Center, eh? 


I just wish they would play the sectionals in larger venues.  Fans shouldn't have to worry about whether they will get tickets or not.  Plus, I think I'd like to visit Atlanta!

BlueZoneBruin
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on March 14, 2009, 11:29:16 PM
BlueZoneBruin, appreciate your putting the facts of the OU-George Fox out there for everyone. The officials cannot be held accountable for the outcome of this game. Many times in basketball superior defense will win out over superior offense.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on March 14, 2009, 11:58:22 PM
Cpngrats to the Petrels from a Maryville fan.  I have enjoyed watching the OU squad these last several years. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BlueZoneBruin on March 15, 2009, 01:52:34 AM
Quote from: pbrooks3 on March 14, 2009, 11:29:16 PM
BlueZoneBruin, appreciate your putting the facts of the OU-George Fox out there for everyone. The officials cannot be held accountable for the outcome of this game. Many times in basketball superior defense will win out over superior offense.

pbrooks...

Thanks for your support of my earlier post. I am just as guilty about blaming fans, but sometimes it just doesn't go the way we want it to, and the refs aren't the reason.  It was fun to be exposed to the Petrels.  Hopefully we will get more opportunities in the future.

Got my tickets to Holland...

BlueZoneBruin
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dropkick11 on April 21, 2009, 07:24:08 PM
Hey does anyone know why Chris Hitchcock left Hendrix? did he resign or was he fired? Just curious...??????
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on April 27, 2009, 08:20:22 AM
HendrixFan needs to chime in on your question about Hitchcock. My speculation is it was something of a mutual agreement for him to move on. Again, I am not in the "know" here. Just recognize from prior posts that he was not the most popular coach on the staff among the Warrior partisans this season.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dropkick11 on May 04, 2009, 10:02:45 AM
Well I am not in the know either on this but I do have some info. I know he was asked to leave at his prior coahing gig to Hendrix. So you can speculate on the reason's at both schools..
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Warrier on May 04, 2009, 11:16:18 AM
Hitchcock was asked to leave and from what I hear he will have a hard time getting a job at another college. He did not have a clue as a coach but was a great recruiter. Should see considerable improvement with Coach Mccracken.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dropkick11 on May 07, 2009, 10:20:34 AM
Just a little added info on the Hitchcock resignation. It sounds like he may have had the same problem he had at Benedictine(this is just speculation). My sources say that if Hendrix did it's due dilignece he never would have been hired there. They need to do a better job on the background check..
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: thomasthetank on May 07, 2009, 09:16:44 PM
Good to see you posting Larry!  How is coaching and teaching at CC in Chicago? 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: sac on May 26, 2009, 12:15:41 AM
Hope has published their schedule which includes a late December trip to the Oglethorpe tournament.

http://www.hope.edu/pr/athletics/wbb/
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 09, 2009, 01:39:40 PM
Not knowing who else is in that tournament, it's still great to see Hope taking a trip, picking up a strong regional opponent if they play the host, and taking some steps to shore up the OWP.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TheNextLevel on June 11, 2009, 10:20:02 AM
Thanks for heading me in the right direction Pat.  Colorado College is listed in the west region so I went there looking for a thread.
It makes sense, since most of the conference is in the South region.

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on August 01, 2009, 11:21:13 AM
Quiet summer on this site - anyone excited about the coming season for their respective team?  I, for one, like what I see at Centre. More to come later.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Tennessee_papa on August 01, 2009, 03:47:13 PM
Quote from: pbrooks3 on August 01, 2009, 11:21:13 AM
Quiet summer on this site - anyone excited about the coming season for their respective team?  I, for one, like what I see at Centre. More to come later.

I saw quite a few of the women's teams play last year, several multiple times, but not all of them (didn't see Austin College, didn't see BSC, didn't see Sewanee, barely saw Millsaps).  And I have no idea what new kids anybody has coming in except for the program my daughter is joining.

With those caveats, I think the East will come down to either Depauw or Centre, with perhaps a slight edge to Depauw (although Centre should be excellent) , and the favorites in the West should be Trinity and Hendrix.

No slight intended to Oglethorpe who was excellent for the past several years, but they lost an awful lot.......
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerbacker on August 31, 2009, 12:15:02 PM
Is it true that the SCAC basketball tournament will be held at Milsaps the next two years
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Tennessee_papa on September 01, 2009, 11:37:21 PM
Quote from: tigerbacker on August 31, 2009, 12:15:02 PM
Is it true that the SCAC basketball tournament will be held at Milsaps the next two years

Yep.  You can read about it on the Millsaps athletic website.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerbacker on September 02, 2009, 10:33:23 AM
Thanks, by the way how did Millsaps do recruiting this year looks like they lost a lot of seniors last year
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Tennessee_papa on September 02, 2009, 08:07:23 PM
Quote from: tigerbacker on September 02, 2009, 10:33:23 AM
Thanks, by the way how did Millsaps do recruiting this year looks like they lost a lot of seniors last year

I don't know.  Haven't seen anything on any recruiting by anybody.  My daughter is going to be playing at a place other than Millsaps, but other than that I'm clueless as to who got what kind of new talent.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on September 14, 2009, 04:49:29 PM
Oglethorpe brought in a slew of Freshwomen???  Don't think it's up to par with the class that graduated but I'm sure Satelle will be able to get the most out of them.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerbacker on September 15, 2009, 10:16:10 AM
Trinity loses KPM, but believe that last years freshman and new upperclass additions should make for an interesting year
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Tennessee_papa on September 15, 2009, 10:30:00 AM
Quote from: tigerbacker on September 15, 2009, 10:16:10 AM
Trinity loses KPM, but believe that last years freshman and new upperclass additions should make for an interesting year

New upperclass additions?  Did they get some transfers?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerbacker on September 15, 2009, 12:40:15 PM
A couple of girls who played their freshman year and decided to return
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on September 16, 2009, 12:16:52 AM
Centre's 2009-10 schedule is posted here:

http://www.centre.edu/web/athletics/basketball_w/schedule_basketballw.html

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: blough2323 on September 28, 2009, 08:09:14 PM
I have seen a few informal Oglethorpe workouts and this new bunch will be faster...better....who knows. Very athletic though.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on October 13, 2009, 10:41:12 PM
Looking forward to basketball season as practice is just around the corner for SCAC squads.  Who is the class of the league for this season?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerbacker on October 14, 2009, 08:11:28 AM
In very limited knowledge of all the teams in the SCAC, I would think Centre should be the class of the East along with Depauw, Ogelthorpe lost a very talented group, don't know how they will fill all the holes.  Hendrix and Trinity should fight it out for the West.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on October 15, 2009, 02:35:28 PM
Lady Colonels should be stronger this season with the return of senior Chelsea Goodman and 2 great newcomers from last season, sophomores, Lauren Huter and Maggie Prewitt. There's a nice blend of other players like Amanda Stovall, Angela Tronzo, Chelsea Luckey and Keonia Masterson to add punch to this squad. There is a large sophomore class which should produce some potency off the bench. One of the incoming freshmen players is Maggie Prewitt's younger sibling. Look for Colonels to continue playing up-tempo ball, and use at least 10 or so regular players to maintain the right pace of play. The competition in the east should be intense, and Centre will look to build on an impressive 2008-09 season 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerbacker on October 19, 2009, 11:18:32 AM
Who are some of the players that will have significant impacts on their teams success this year.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on October 19, 2009, 05:37:09 PM
Quote from: tigerbacker on October 19, 2009, 11:18:32 AM
Who are some of the players that will have significant impacts on their teams success this year.
Sort of mentioned my Centre players already. 

Among the rest of league, here are some that I like whom I've seen play:

Emily Marshall & Kathryn Denbow - DePauw
Ali Marzella, Abby Dietert and Danielle Hubenak - Trinity
Katy Williams & Amber Stafford - Austin
Chelsea MacDonald - Oglethorpe
Christina Byler & Samatha Clark- Hendrix
Janice Okeke - Millsaps
Becky Atnip & Jenilee Pate - Rhodes
Staley Mullins - Southwestern
Erin Jackson & Katelyn Wilson - Birmingham Southern
Lauren Gulley - Sewanee
Becky Luetjen & Eliese Hansberry - Colorado College

Probably left a lot of impact players out but these are some good ones.  I always look forward to watching the incoming freshmen.


Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Tennessee_papa on October 19, 2009, 08:25:28 PM
Quote from: pbrooks3 on October 19, 2009, 05:37:09 PM
Quote from: tigerbacker on October 19, 2009, 11:18:32 AM
Who are some of the players that will have significant impacts on their teams success this year.
Christina Byler & Samatha Clark- Hendrix

Samantha Clark was a senior last year and has moved on, I think to be a pharmacist.  At any rate, she won't be playing this year.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on October 20, 2009, 08:24:11 AM
 Tennessee_papa, thanks for straightening me out on Samantha. I should have remembered she graduated with my son.

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerbacker on October 20, 2009, 09:14:22 AM
Hendrix has Byler who may be the best player in the Conference have they added any transfers or Freshman that will help.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Tennessee_papa on October 21, 2009, 11:36:14 PM
Quote from: tigerbacker on October 20, 2009, 09:14:22 AM
Hendrix has Byler who may be the best player in the Conference have they added any transfers or Freshman that will help.

Since last year's freshman class (this year's sophs) was relatively large - they've got 9 or 10 sophomores - this year's freshman class is relatively small.  I believe they have 3 freshman.

As to the impact of the freshmen, they've just started practicing so I assume they're in the process of figuring that out.  I don't know.

No transfers.

How about Trinity?  Do they have any stud freshmen?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerbacker on October 22, 2009, 08:15:07 AM
They had 5 or 6 first years but a couple have knee problems don't know how much they will help.  Trinity will go as far as Hubenak, Marzella and Dietert can take them.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on October 22, 2009, 06:53:53 PM
Tigerbacker, I like Hubenak.  She is a bulldog on the floor, and has takeover ability as well.  If she polishes a few aspects of her game and reduces her turnovers, she might be the best player this season.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerbacker on October 23, 2009, 08:07:07 AM
I agree, there are a few players that can really make a difference in any game Hebenak is one, also Byler of Hendrix and  Goodman of Centre. I am sure i am leavig a few out but All 3 of these aforementioned women can play.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on October 23, 2009, 08:57:51 AM
I will look forward to seeing Centre suit up & hit the floor. Goodman is poised to finish her career as one of Centre's best.  It should be fun to see how super sophs, Prewitt and Huter play. Huter has a chance to be one of the truly great post players in the SCAC with her length & athleticism. Prewitt is a coach's daughter with drive; need I say more.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerbacker on October 23, 2009, 09:16:50 AM
Trinity has to come to Centre again this year and after last years thriller it should be a great game.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on October 23, 2009, 11:51:06 AM
I was looking at the list of notable players and noticed that under Depauw Jenna Fernandez was not listed.  I know she was injured last year and the school had her listed as a Junior so I figured she would be coming back for her senior season this year.  If she's coming back I would say she would have to be on the top of the list and possibly a POTY candidate.

Does anyone from DPU know the story there?

Even if Fernandez does come back I see Trinity being the class of the SCAC once again... I believe their trio of Marzella, Hubenak and Dietert is to much to overcome.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerbacker on October 23, 2009, 11:54:09 AM
How will Ogelthorpe be this year?  What a great group they lost, but I suspect They will reload and be a factor again this year.  A very well coached team.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on October 23, 2009, 05:49:25 PM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on October 23, 2009, 11:51:06 AM
I was looking at the list of notable players and noticed that under Depauw Jenna Fernandez was not listed.  I know she was injured last year and the school had her listed as a Junior so I figured she would be coming back for her senior season this year.  If she's coming back I would say she would have to be on the top of the list and possibly a POTY candidate.

Does anyone from DPU know the story there?

Even if Fernandez does come back I see Trinity being the class of the SCAC once again... I believe their trio of Marzella, Hubenak and Dietert is to much to overcome.
Maybe Wes Anderson can respond to this.  I don't know if she's even on the active roster this season.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Tennessee_papa on October 23, 2009, 05:53:28 PM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on October 23, 2009, 11:51:06 AM
Even if Fernandez does come back I see Trinity being the class of the SCAC once again... I believe their trio of Marzella, Hubenak and Dietert is to much to overcome.

You think?  I see Depauw as being the team to beat, with Trinity, Centre, and Hendrix in a cluster behind DPU.  Trinity is historically the best program of the three, but you could argue that the three were somewhere around even last year (Trinity and Hendrix split, Centre beat TU in a very close game without KPM) and Trinity lost more than the other two did.  

The difference maker between TU, Centre, and HC will be freshmen and injuries, both of which are unknowable right now.

Again, no offense to Oglethorpe, but at this point in time with what they graduated they're a complete black box.  I have a suspicion that Austin could be better than we all think as well.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on October 23, 2009, 07:39:55 PM
Agreed OU is unclear but I suspect they'll be competitive. Not as good as last season, but formiable. Austin's Williams along with some decent guard play can make things interesting, too.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BBallFanHC on October 25, 2009, 12:01:29 AM
Hello all! New poster to the Women's board. I am a follower of Hendrix and the SCAC. I think Hendrix will surprise the league this year with a new coach and style. Hendrix has always had top tier talent but always seemed to underperform down the stretch. Didn't know too much about the previous coach but it seemed that alot of supporters were in favor of the decision for a change. Byler is obviously an elite player in the SCAC but with word of injury issues HC might need to look elsewhere early in the year. Morris, the point guard, hopefully will be 100% after she lost her sophmore season to a knee problem. She is a guard that for her size can really score and run an offense. She is a small guard but is crafty and is lights out with deep range at times. With experienced players inside, White, Merritt and Hensy, the front court needs one or two scorers to emerge and HC will be a force in the West. I am looking forward to see what the new coach will be doing offensively and defensively. Some early season scrimmages and exhibitions should be key to getting their season off right.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on October 26, 2009, 12:04:49 PM
Quote from: Tennessee_papa on October 23, 2009, 05:53:28 PM
You think?  I see Depauw as being the team to beat, with Trinity, Centre, and Hendrix in a cluster behind DPU.  Trinity is historically the best program of the three, but you could argue that the three were somewhere around even last year (Trinity and Hendrix split, Centre beat TU in a very close game without KPM) and Trinity lost more than the other two did.  

The difference maker between TU, Centre, and HC will be freshmen and injuries, both of which are unknowable right now.

Again, no offense to Oglethorpe, but at this point in time with what they graduated they're a complete black box.  I have a suspicion that Austin could be better than we all think as well.

The only player TU graduated was KPM.   She's going to be hard to replace, true, but the other four starters are all back per the TU web site. 

Trinity brought in five freshmen (sorry, no details yet); eight of ten from last year's team are back.   Further details here (http://www.trinity.edu/departments/athletics/WBasketball/d3hoops_pre0910.htm).  Don't know that I would say that makes them favorites, but with so much youth on the team and only one senior this year (Alexandra Blake) the future looks good. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Tennessee_papa on October 26, 2009, 01:21:11 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on October 26, 2009, 12:04:49 PM
The only player TU graduated was KPM.   She's going to be hard to replace, true, but the other four starters are all back per the TU web site. 

Trinity brought in five freshmen (sorry, no details yet); eight of ten from last year's team are back.   Further details here (http://www.trinity.edu/departments/athletics/WBasketball/d3hoops_pre0910.htm).  Don't know that I would say that makes them favorites, but with so much youth on the team and only one senior this year (Alexandra Blake) the future looks good. 

Trinity only lost one (as did Hendrix), but the one they lost was a really, really good one.  A lot of points and a lot of rebounds headed off to med school.

Similar to Colorado College - they only lost one too but what a one they lost, which is why CC will probably struggle to even qualify for the conference tourney this year.

I'm not saying that Trinity won't compete for the conference championship, as they're gong to be very good.  I was merely trying to say that whatever gap existed between Trinity on the one hand and Hendrix/Centre on the other has probably closed some.  Both Hendrix and Centre also have four starters back, and included among those four starters are their leading rebounders and scorers from last year.

If I had to rank the top four in the conference coming in, I'd say Depauw, Centre, Trinity, Hendrix in that order, with a fairly big gap between #1 and #2 and right now I'd throw a blanket over #2-#4.  If one of those four come up with a contributing freshman or two or suffers a key injury, the order could change.

Of course, the d3hoops voters don't agree with me either, and as always I reserve the right to be wrong.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scacbballfan on November 01, 2009, 01:06:54 AM
Quote from: BBallFanHC on October 25, 2009, 12:01:29 AM
Hello all! New poster to the Women's board. I am a follower of Hendrix and the SCAC. I think Hendrix will surprise the league this year with a new coach and style. Hendrix has always had top tier talent but always seemed to underperform down the stretch. Didn't know too much about the previous coach but it seemed that alot of supporters were in favor of the decision for a change. Byler is obviously an elite player in the SCAC but with word of injury issues HC might need to look elsewhere early in the year. Morris, the point guard, hopefully will be 100% after she lost her sophmore season to a knee problem. She is a guard that for her size can really score and run an offense. She is a small guard but is crafty and is lights out with deep range at times. With experienced players inside, White, Merritt and Hensy, the front court needs one or two scorers to emerge and HC will be a force in the West. I am looking forward to see what the new coach will be doing offensively and defensively. Some early season scrimmages and exhibitions should be key to getting their season off right.


New to the board but I've been following Hendrix athletics for about 7 years now and enjoying following them and watching them play. Just a few comments to add to this post. The first 2 weeks under a new coach has everyone (players and fans) excited about Hendrix basketball. The first scrimmage of the year waS only 6 practices in and there was already many dramatic improvemts. Yes, Byler has been out for most of preseason and early practice due to some surgical hardware removal complications from the summer. However, she has dropped 40 pounds since the beginning of last year, increased her vertical and her speed durig rehab an will be good to go by tip off in Memphis barring a drastic setback.

As for the point guard situation, sophomore Katy Ashley-Paulet would havey nod forthe starting point guard right now. Quicker with the ball in her hand, improved stamina and defense, more size and consistanrt shooting.  Hendrix will have two graduating seniors this year (White and Merritt) and two third year players that can graduate or stay a fifth year (Byler and Morris). There are no juniors on the roster and all 8 sophomores are returning. 3 freshmen complete the roster but only one saw action in the scrimmage (1 out with foot injury and the other playing field hockey). This is a team that has a string chemisty and with the coaching change looks to be very dangerous.

I believe the SCAC West is going to be a very close race between Hendrix and Trinity with the season series ending in a tie. It seems like Trinity will be slightly more guard oriented than in previous years. On the East side I believe DePauw will end up the number 1 seed followed by Centre and Oglethorpe in no certain order. I too am curious about Jenna Fernandez. DePauw will have some tough shoes to fill without All-SCAC performer Cassie Pruzin, but I have no doubt Coach Huffman has found the perfect new floor commander. It will be anxious to see how Oglethorpe reloaded.

As for player of the year...based on last years all SCAC performers, Byler from Hendrix is the highest vote receiver returning. I like her chances this year if she can stay healthy. Last years numbers were slightly lower than her first year...chalk it up to a sophomore slump of early season injury but the slump only resulted in a 1 ppg avg from and a 2% drop in free-throw percentage, both of which were still in the top 5. If Katy Williams worked in the off season to improve her defense and mid-range game I think she can put up numbers similar to her sophomore year an also be considered in that conversation. Chelsea Goodman is another experienced player for a very capable Centre team. Danielle Hubenak will be a key factor in Trinity's success this year.  She is very dangerous withthe ball in her hand both as a scoring threat and a passing threat.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 01, 2009, 01:16:30 AM
Welcome to the boards, scacbballfan!  +1!  :)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on November 01, 2009, 09:58:51 AM
Ditto, SCACBBALLFAN. Sounds like we have an informed Hendrix basketball supporter. Should be an exciting year for Byler and the Warriors.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerbacker on November 04, 2009, 10:04:38 AM
Any idea when the coach's season preview for the SCAC will be out
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scacbballfan on November 04, 2009, 05:04:13 PM
Quote from: tigerbacker on November 04, 2009, 10:04:38 AM
Any idea when the coach's season preview for the SCAC will be out

I'm pretty sure the coaches submitted their picks at the end of the week last week.  Hopefully they will be out by the beginning of next week.  We are about 2 weeks from tip off!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerbacker on November 05, 2009, 10:20:29 AM
thanks Bballfan Looking forward to the start of the season, i believe that the SCAC may be a very competitive conference this year.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on November 06, 2009, 01:53:20 PM
I am getting the feeling that the SCAC will be competitive indeed.  What I am wondering is whether DePauw is a cut above every other contender this season.  Haven't seen any major posts on what DPU is looking like, but I just have to assume they'll be good.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on November 08, 2009, 05:01:23 PM
So, what's the SCAC career rebounding mark now that Prato-Matthews set it last year?  I'm wondering if Katy Williams will be able to reach that mark this year, since she's starting out the season with 763 career rebounds.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 09, 2009, 12:18:32 AM
Quote from: Tennessee_papa on October 26, 2009, 01:21:11 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on October 26, 2009, 12:04:49 PM
The only player TU graduated was KPM.   She's going to be hard to replace, true, but the other four starters are all back per the TU web site. 

Trinity brought in five freshmen (sorry, no details yet); eight of ten from last year's team are back.   Further details here (http://www.trinity.edu/departments/athletics/WBasketball/d3hoops_pre0910.htm).  Don't know that I would say that makes them favorites, but with so much youth on the team and only one senior this year (Alexandra Blake) the future looks good. 

Trinity only lost one (as did Hendrix), but the one they lost was a really, really good one.  A lot of points and a lot of rebounds headed off to med school.

Similar to Colorado College - they only lost one too but what a one they lost, which is why CC will probably struggle to even qualify for the conference tourney this year.

I'm not saying that Trinity won't compete for the conference championship, as they're gong to be very good.  I was merely trying to say that whatever gap existed between Trinity on the one hand and Hendrix/Centre on the other has probably closed some.  Both Hendrix and Centre also have four starters back, and included among those four starters are their leading rebounders and scorers from last year.

If I had to rank the top four in the conference coming in, I'd say Depauw, Centre, Trinity, Hendrix in that order, with a fairly big gap between #1 and #2 and right now I'd throw a blanket over #2-#4.  If one of those four come up with a contributing freshman or two or suffers a key injury, the order could change.

Of course, the d3hoops voters don't agree with me either, and as always I reserve the right to be wrong.

Trinity's new web site has the '09-'10 roster posted and nowhere to be seen is last year's starting PG, Danielle Hubenak. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Tennessee_papa on November 09, 2009, 08:05:17 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on November 09, 2009, 12:18:32 AM

Trinity's new web site has the '09-'10 roster posted and nowhere to be seen is last year's starting PG, Danielle Hubenak. 

Late last season, Coach Bradley told me that she was going to lose 2 off of her then-current roster for this season.  One graduating and one going to study abroad.

Obviously, KPM was the graduate.  Perhaps Hubenak was the player going abroad.  It's the only reason I can think of as to why she wouldn't be there.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on November 09, 2009, 08:25:28 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on November 09, 2009, 12:18:32 AM
Quote from: Tennessee_papa on October 26, 2009, 01:21:11 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on October 26, 2009, 12:04:49 PM
The only player TU graduated was KPM.   She's going to be hard to replace, true, but the other four starters are all back per the TU web site. 

Trinity brought in five freshmen (sorry, no details yet); eight of ten from last year's team are back.   Further details here (http://www.trinity.edu/departments/athletics/WBasketball/d3hoops_pre0910.htm).  Don't know that I would say that makes them favorites, but with so much youth on the team and only one senior this year (Alexandra Blake) the future looks good. 
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That'll be a significant loss if that's the case. Don't suppose anything like this has happened at DePauw!  Only kidding!!

Trinity only lost one (as did Hendrix), but the one they lost was a really, really good one.  A lot of points and a lot of rebounds headed off to med school.

Similar to Colorado College - they only lost one too but what a one they lost, which is why CC will probably struggle to even qualify for the conference tourney this year.

I'm not saying that Trinity won't compete for the conference championship, as they're gong to be very good.  I was merely trying to say that whatever gap existed between Trinity on the one hand and Hendrix/Centre on the other has probably closed some.  Both Hendrix and Centre also have four starters back, and included among those four starters are their leading rebounders and scorers from last year.

If I had to rank the top four in the conference coming in, I'd say Depauw, Centre, Trinity, Hendrix in that order, with a fairly big gap between #1 and #2 and right now I'd throw a blanket over #2-#4.  If one of those four come up with a contributing freshman or two or suffers a key injury, the order could change.

Of course, the d3hoops voters don't agree with me either, and as always I reserve the right to be wrong.

Trinity's new web site has the '09-'10 roster posted and nowhere to be seen is last year's starting PG, Danielle Hubenak. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerbacker on November 09, 2009, 08:30:15 AM
She is playing, must be a huge oversight on the part of the sports info dept., seems that they make a few or don't give much thought to Womens BB sometimes.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 09, 2009, 10:36:47 AM
Quote from: tigerbacker on November 09, 2009, 08:30:15 AM
She is playing, must be a huge oversight on the part of the sports info dept., seems that they make a few or don't give much thought to Womens BB sometimes.

Thanks - hope you're right.  An Oct 25 release (http://www.trinitytigers.com/sports/wbkb/2009-10/releases/10-25-2009preseason_ranking) says that "four starters return".  
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scacbballfan on November 09, 2009, 10:57:35 AM
First of all, props to Trinity on the new web-site. It was a much needed improvement!  Secondly, I too noticed Hubenak was not listed on the roster, however she is the spotlight athlete on the main women's basketball page.

I too am curious about DePauw this year.  I don't really see anyone in the East, except maybe Centre, that could give them a run for their money.  Any word on wheteher or not Jenna Fernandez will be able to play again this year?  I know DPU had a pretty extensive roster last year so I am cuious about the number of recruits brought in.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerbacker on November 09, 2009, 11:14:50 AM
Fernandez is listed on the Depauw 09-10 roster, don't know what that means but if she plays Depauw will be a force to reckon with.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scaccommish on November 09, 2009, 05:21:31 PM
Jekelish,

Krista Prato Matthews finished her career with 1,009 rebounds. As you mentioned, Katy Williams of Austin College has 763 heading into this season, so she is 246 from equaling KPM.

Very much in reach considering she had 295 boards as a sophomore and 254 last season.

The 2009-10 SCAC Winter Record Book should be online within a week or so.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dpualum on November 09, 2009, 10:12:50 PM
Jenna Fernandez is back playing this season after missing last season.  The tigers look to be SCAC champion contenders returning 11 letter winners and bringing in a class of 10 solid freshman.  Word through the grape vine is this group of freshman have their stuff together and look to contribute. Look for the post play to be solid with all four seniors being post players.  Katie Matthews and Lauren Goff should contribute in the guard court as well. They lost a big one tonight to Butler in an Exhibition but it is early in the season. Despite the loss they came ahead on the boards, which is their strength. Give these girls another week to get their offense together and they should have a strong showing in St. Louis at the Tip-Off Tournament.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 09, 2009, 10:55:46 PM
Quote from: tigerbacker on November 09, 2009, 08:30:15 AM
She is playing, must be a huge oversight on the part of the sports info dept., seems that they make a few or don't give much thought to Womens BB sometimes.

The TU web site roster has been updated and Danielle Hubenak is now listed there. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Tennessee_papa on November 09, 2009, 11:12:44 PM
Quote from: dpualum on November 09, 2009, 10:12:50 PM
Jenna Fernandez is back playing this season after missing last season.  The tigers look to be SCAC champion contenders returning 11 letter winners and bringing in a class of 10 solid freshman.  Word through the grape vine is this group of freshman have their stuff together and look to contribute. Look for the post play to be solid with all four seniors being post players.  Katie Matthews and Lauren Goff should contribute in the guard court as well. They lost a big one tonight to Butler in an Exhibition but it is early in the season. Despite the loss they came ahead on the boards, which is their strength. Give these girls another week to get their offense together and they should have a strong showing in St. Louis at the Tip-Off Tournament.

Damn.  10 freshmen on top of 11 returning lettermen (letterwomen? letterpersons?).  Is Depauw attempting to insure that everyone else sucks by cornering the market on players?  Or did you intend to post this on the soccer board?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dpualum on November 09, 2009, 11:20:08 PM
"letterwomen"

The number of freshman is a usual for DePauw.  My guess is there were at least 12-15 at the start of tryouts and the number was trimmed down.  The coaches do a great job of recruiting and it doesn't hurt to have 6 consecutive tournament appearances to bring in the recruits.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scacbballfan on November 11, 2009, 12:34:31 PM
Hendrix had it's last preseason scrimmage against Divison II Harding University.  I was very impressed with the intensity and effort Hendrix brought last night. The final after 40 minutes was 61-73 Harding on top. Hendrix showed alot of fight and played hard with an 8 man rotation all night. Rebounding needs some improvement but this is a MUCH better Hendrix team than last year and Thad McCracken has brought new life to this program. On another note, Hendrix played without Christina Byler last night. She was dressed out for warm-ups and participated in that but returned to te bench in street clothes. She was moving well in warm-ups, shooting the ball great, and looked ready to go. Not sure if there were some issues with the knee that came up of if it was precautionary but it has been anticipated she will be back full go for the Rhodes Tip-off tourney next weekend and was back at practice this past Sunday.

The preseason coaches picks are out and, no shocker here, DPU picked first overall followed by Centre, Trinity, and Hendrix. I think it will be interesting to see Centre this year. Alot of returning talent and a great young coach in Coach Austin-Robinson. On the west I believe the number one seed is going to come down to point spread between Trinity and Hendrix. I'm looking for a season split. About a week from tip off. Good luck to all SCAC teams this year!!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on November 18, 2009, 07:21:52 PM
Lady Colonels up 58-44 with about 7 minutes to play against Maryville. Prewitt has 19; Goodman 16; and Huter has 11 rebounds.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on November 18, 2009, 08:50:20 PM
Goodman scores 20 in leading Centre to a 64-54 win tonight. Prewitt nearly had a double-double finishing with 19 pts and 9 rebounds.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ououou on November 19, 2009, 08:54:22 AM
reports on the demise of oglethorpe after the graduation of so many stellar players might have been a bit premature. coach has had an excellent recruiting class and opened up with a nice win over emory to open the season. young teams have growing pains but the good news is that by february, they won't be rookies anymore.  riley cerrone is going to turn heads.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on November 19, 2009, 10:39:52 AM
OU had a nice revenge win over Emory last night.  While it was strange to not see the same group that had graced Pinholster court over the past 4 years there were some similarities between the two teams that leads me to believe that the Lady Petrels will be just fine!  Riley Cerone notched 7 three-pointers on 7-10 shooting for 26 points in her debut.  Sounds a lot line Anna Findley to me.  Sara Jones finished with 13 points and 7 assists  3 reb and 2 steals in only 17 minutes off the bench... give that girl starters minutes and  that reminds a lot of Katie Kulavic.  While the comparisons to 2 former All-Americans may be premature it is safe that this freshman class has talent.  This team also has depth.... lots and lots of depth!  This team is easily 10 players deep with very little fall off.

As far as any other information... you'll just have to wait til they visit a town near you.

Go Lady Petrels!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OUfantastic on November 19, 2009, 11:49:11 PM
Emory was stunned...  OU had a large crowd !!! 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on November 20, 2009, 02:58:07 PM
At the Rhodes Tipoff Classic, Hendrix leads 37-33 at half over Westminster. Typical early season game with lots of turnovers. Byler has 4 points & 2 fouls. Hendrix is the better team but is keeping Westminster in it through missed layups & turnovers.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on November 20, 2009, 03:39:19 PM
Hendrix prevails in the opener 71-63 with Byler picking up a quiet 18. Sloppy game, but Hendrix was clearly the better of the 2 teams.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on November 20, 2009, 05:00:39 PM
Rhodes' trapping zone defensive pressure has rattled Greenville in the opening 20 minutes; Lynx lead 48-36. Clarin has 13 including 3 triples, the last one coming at the end of the half. Atnip and Bell each have 10. The first 20 was a game of spurts with Rhodes taking control in final 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on November 20, 2009, 05:46:47 PM
Rhodes wins easily 95-71. Clarin scores 24 with 6 triples.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerbacker on November 21, 2009, 01:00:06 AM
Trinity beats #24 Hardin Simmons 79 - 69, behind Marzella 26 points, 5 triples, Hubenak a triple double 18 11 assists and 10 boards and Dietert 17.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on November 21, 2009, 04:18:45 PM
Hendrix and Rhodes women won their games - missed the Hendrix game but caught the 2nd half of the Westminster-Rhodes game. Westminster actually led most of the final 20, but the Lynx took the lead for good with 5 minutes remaining, and won by 4.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 21, 2009, 08:02:28 PM
I cannot find Livestats for Trinity Women on the website!

Any help?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 21, 2009, 11:03:58 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 21, 2009, 08:02:28 PM
I cannot find Livestats for Trinity Women on the website!

Any help?

I think they didn't have them due to focus on the NCAA women's soccer sectionals tonight, Ralph.   Sorry.

Per the McM website the Nation lost a close one in OT, 91-90.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 21, 2009, 11:28:33 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on November 21, 2009, 11:03:58 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 21, 2009, 08:02:28 PM
I cannot find Livestats for Trinity Women on the website!

Any help?

I think they didn't have them due to focus on the NCAA women's soccer sectionals tonight, Ralph.   Sorry.

Per the McM website the Nation lost a close one in OT, 91-90.
Thanks, too bad!  But, Coach Snow has reloaded.

McMurry has replaced 3 starters and the #6 and #7 players off the ASC-West Champs from last year.

LaPorsha Alexander came off the bench and led McMurry scorers with 33 points.  (Alexander is a JUCO transfer from Paris JC and from Humble High School.)

http://www.scacsports.com/sports/wbkb/2009-10/stats/tu02.htm
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on November 23, 2009, 07:13:42 PM
16-7 Petrels. Maryville calls a timeout with 14:35 left as OU's defensive pressure is forcing quite a few turnovers...   2 steals and now it's 18-9.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on November 23, 2009, 07:29:22 PM
Quote from: FlightofthePetrel on November 23, 2009, 07:13:42 PM
16-7 Petrels. Maryville calls a timeout with 14:35 left as OU's defensive pressure is forcing quite a few turnovers...   2 steals and now it's 18-9.

Live stats anywhere?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on November 23, 2009, 07:48:55 PM
They should be turning them on for the second half. Www.Oglethorpe.edu/athletics.

I'll try to post  at 5 minute increments.

Halftime OU up 39-37

Maryville- Menard with 8 Rouvelas with 7

Oglethorpe- Palmore with 8 pts 5 reb 2 blk.

OU is cold from the outside (2-14) Maryville (4-10)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on November 23, 2009, 08:12:09 PM
Maryville 52 Oglethorpe 51 after a Cerone.  12:52
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on November 23, 2009, 08:16:50 PM
Maryville 63 Oglethorpe 57.   10:39.  Lots of 3's going up for both teams. Cerone is heating up.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on November 23, 2009, 08:27:22 PM
Maryville 70. Oglethorpe 66.  6:53
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on November 23, 2009, 08:32:29 PM
Maryville 78. Oglethorpe 69.  4:33 left. Sevier is nailing them from deeeeeep. 4 this half I think.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on November 23, 2009, 08:37:03 PM
Maryville 80 Oglethorpe 74.  2:44. OU timeout
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bkbfan30 on November 23, 2009, 08:43:36 PM
Lady scots about to pull off the big "W" GO LADY SCOTS!!!!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on November 23, 2009, 08:45:59 PM
Maryville hits their free throws down the stretch which made the final score a little worse than it really was.  90-79... Tough loss for the young Lady Petrels.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bkbfan30 on November 23, 2009, 08:48:48 PM
Gr8 win for the Lady Scots-OU doesn't shoot well but have a excellent group of freshman-will make some noise again in the SCAC in the future....unless of course they move to the Great South
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Tennessee_papa on November 24, 2009, 10:04:57 PM
Hendrix squeezes by Ozarks 75-73 at Ozarks.  Close game the entire way - best I remember Hendrix' biggest lead was 8 and Ozarks was 3, but don't hold me to it.  Hendrix blocked a 3 at the buzzer to lock it up.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on November 25, 2009, 12:14:16 AM
Lady Colonels lost a close one to Transy tonight 58-57.  They had a last second crack at scoring to win at the buzzer, but the shot would not go down.  Goodman and Maggie Prewitt led in scoring.  It was a poor shooting night for Centre.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on November 30, 2009, 07:55:36 AM
Lady Colonels came through the early part of the season 2-3. Probably not what they expected but close. Yesterday's game @ Hanover was probably their least impressive game, but the outcome not unexpected. The 1-point loss @ home to Transy was a tough one and the ladies could have won that one. The team will have some good practice time early this week getting geared up for SCAC games this coming weekend against Birmingham-Southern (Friday) and Rhodes (Sunday). They'll need to get back to basics by shooting the basketball much better. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on December 04, 2009, 05:39:04 PM
Who wins tonight in the SCAC games?

DePauw @ Rhodes
Millsaps @ Colorado College
Centre & Birmingham Southern
Hendrix @ Austin


Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on December 04, 2009, 05:49:18 PM
Quote from: pbrooks3 on December 04, 2009, 05:39:04 PM
Who wins tonight in the SCAC games?

DePauw @ Rhodes
Millsaps @ Colorado College
Centre & Birmingham Southern
Hendrix @ Austin




My best guess:

DePauw by 18 at Rhodes
Colorado College by 9 over Millsaps
Centre in a squeaker by 2 at Birmingham-Southern
Austin in a tight home opener by 5 against Hendrix
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on December 04, 2009, 06:23:51 PM
I'll be perfectly frank that I don't know enough about most SCAC teams to make guesses, but...

DePauw easily gets past Rhodes
CC tops Millsaps
Centre manages a close one against BSC
Katy Williams leads AC past Hendrix with a big double double
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on December 04, 2009, 09:06:48 PM
Road teams are ruling the night so far with Hendrix, DePauw and Centre all winning.  Rhodes played hard against DPU but didn't have the depth or strength to keep up with them. 9 point margin of victory for the Tigers.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on December 05, 2009, 12:07:06 AM
Quote from: pbrooks3 on December 04, 2009, 09:06:48 PM
Road teams are ruling the night so far with Hendrix, DePauw and Centre all winning.  Rhodes played hard against DPU but didn't have the depth or strength to keep up with them. 9 point margin of victory for the Tigers.

That barely ended with the home team Colorado College winning over Millsaps 69-68.

The Rhodes Ladies gave DePauw a competitive game tonight 78-67 .  The big difference in this game was the way the Lady Tigers owned the boards: 50-29.  There were a number of possessions where DePauw got 4 & 5 cracks at the basket.  They only shot 39% but they took 74 shots in the game.  Other than that, the game was pretty even.  DePauw comes at its opponents as always with an extensive bench of players.  Rhodes never gave up; their speed game helped offset their weakness on the boards.  When McGill attacked the basket, she found seams in the defense to either get to the hoop or find a teammate for an easy look. 

Lady Colonels got a nice road win in Birmingham tonight.  Lauren Huter led the team in scoring with 18.  The team shot the ball very well and got off to a big lead in the 1st half and never looked back.

Strong victory as well for the Hendrix Women at Austin with a big second half run to take the lead after trailing at the break.  This team is now 4-0.  They are looking like the 2nd team in the west now right behind Trinity.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on December 05, 2009, 05:21:31 PM
Interesting to see how things shake out tonight with AC and Millsaps.  And in the career rebounding watch, Katy Williams has 857, good for 2nd all time, and needs to get to 1010 to break the record.  If she keeps up her career average, she should reach that pretty easily (knock on wood).  She only had seven last night, but she's been an absolute machine all season (and all career, when you get right down to it). 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on December 06, 2009, 07:19:00 PM
My first opportunity to see Centre live today against Rhodes. Lady Colonels were impressive from the start in winning by 14 and the margin of victory could easily have been 20. My 1st observation was Centre's players are physically stronger this year. The tenacity on the defensive side is most evident again. They had several nice defensive sequences where they absolutely shut down Rhodes' women for 3-4 minute stretches. Maggie Prewitt, Chelsea Goodman anBd Amanda Stovall are outstanding defenders and are a joy to watch. They each were big contributors offensively with Goodman getting 22 and Prewitt having 20. Didn't think Centre took advantage of Lauren Huter in the post during the first 20 minutes but part of this was due to fouls parking Huter on the bench. They finally got her in the flow midway through the 2nd half.  Several of the 2nd 5 had good games, too, including Angela Tronzo.

I was impressed with the growth of this team from the past season on the offensive end. Prewitt had the offensive side operating quite efficiently with sharp passing and limited turnovers.  Defense is still a key for creating easy offense at times, but I witnessed today better efficiency at executing a half court plan. 

Clearly a nice 2-game SCAC road trip for the Centre Ladies. 

The real star of the day though wasn't a player, but a parent. Angela Tronzo's dad, Dennis, made not one but two half court over-the-back reverse shots during the 2 halftimes at the games in a fan fundraising contest @ Rhodes.  Reminded me of the antics of an old Harlem Globetrotter, Meadowlark Lemon!  Fun stuff. :o    
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 08, 2009, 11:25:59 AM
Thanks to all for their perspectives on the season.  I haven't made it to SA to see the TU women play yet, will try to catch at least one of the two games at their tourney over the Christmas break.  They have certainly been winning some very close games so far - honestly I think #11 #8 ranking in the most recent poll may be a bit high but it's nice to see them get off to a good start post-KPM.  

It's also good to see a few more players on what is still a young team (Alexandra Blake is the only senior).   I had this season down as somewhat of a rebuilding year but would be happy to be proved wrong.   :)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on December 08, 2009, 10:29:27 PM
Would be curious to get somewhat's take on the Birmingham Southern win over DePauw Sunday.  Centre Ladies handled BS with relative ease on Friday night and impressively won over Rhodes Sunday. Was DePauw off their game? While they didn't totally dominate Rhodes - I saw this game - DePauw controlled it most of the way. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerbacker on December 11, 2009, 11:08:41 AM
Haven't seen Depauw play but I truly beleive that they are probably missing Pruzin a lot more than expected.  The SCAC will be won by the teams that have the best guard play in my opinion. I have been wrong before but Trinity and Centre have the best guards in the conference and should be at the top when all the dust clears.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on December 17, 2009, 01:42:07 PM
Oglethorpe unveils new athletics website!

www.gopetrels.com
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on December 18, 2009, 11:19:30 AM
Petrels lost a tough one to Lagrange last night falling by the score of 81-72

Freshman Sarah Jones set a school record by nailing 9- 3 pointers! 

Fellow Freshman Sarah Giles filled in nicely for starting Center Kaci Palimore going off for 18 points 13 rebounds and 5 blocks.

While those two had a wonderful night the rest of the team combined to go 8 of 39... and 20% shooting will not win you many games.

With the result, Oglethorpe is now 4-3 on the season and will get set to host East Texas Baptist on Pinholster Court this Sunday at 3:00 p.m.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on December 23, 2009, 09:52:21 AM
Centre Lady Colonels have picked up 3 nice pre-Christmas holidays wins, having defeated Mount St. Joseph, St. Catharine and Marietta College all away from the friendly confines of Alumni Gym.  Team is now 7-3 and 2-0 in the SCAC.  Sophomore post, Lauren Huter, has picked up the pace in her game in both scoring & rebounding.  Lady Colonels lace them up again after the 1st of the new year against eastern division rival, DePauw on January 3rd at home.  This will be a big game where we'll get a chance to see if guard play determines the outcome.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 03, 2010, 02:50:17 PM
Tough, physical battle at Centre today with DePauw coming out a winner by 6.  DePauw got a big game from Jenna Fernandez with 21 points on 10-11 shooting from the field.  The Tigers outrebounded the Colonels by 4 and won the turnover battle as well.  Colonels fought hard down the stretch but never could take the lead.  Must hand it to DePauw; they were up to the challenge and really made Chelsea Goodman a non-factor offensively today.  2nd chance points were pretty much non-existent for Centre.  Maggie Prewitt led the Colonels with 17 and Lauren Huter tallied 12. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 09, 2010, 08:19:10 AM
Impressive home court performance last evening from the Lady Colonels in winning by 25 over Oglethorpe. It's been awhile since Centre has won over this team in this fashion.  Granted OU is in a reloading mode.  Colonels had 4 players with double-digit scoring games led by Maggie Prewitt. Angela Tronzo came off the bench to tally 8 and generate some serious spark. This win was a good rebound from Sunday's loss to DePauw.  Sewanee in Danville on Sunday is the next game.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 09, 2010, 08:46:10 AM
Kudos to Thad McCracken & the Lady Warriors. McCracken's team is a quiet 8-2 and coming off a nice homecourt win against Trinity last night. He's got a veteran team and he's making the Hendrix faithful proud right now with the way the Ladies are playing.   
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Blaster on January 12, 2010, 10:26:00 PM
Depauw and Centre seem like heads above everyone else. What are the keys to stopping them?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 13, 2010, 01:44:23 PM
Quote from: Blaster on January 12, 2010, 10:26:00 PM
Depauw and Centre seem like heads above everyone else. What are the keys to stopping them?
No trade secrets here - keys for these teams are high energy play and bench depth; both of these traits are connected.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Blaster on January 14, 2010, 01:36:07 PM
Any idea on how the top 4 teams from the SCAC would stack up against teams in the top 10?  Also wondering how many teams have a chance of making the NCAA tournament.  I know there is still a lot of season to unfold but as of now what are your thoughts?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 14, 2010, 11:06:45 PM
Quote from: Blaster on January 14, 2010, 01:36:07 PM
Any idea on how the top 4 teams from the SCAC would stack up against teams in the top 10?  Also wondering how many teams have a chance of making the NCAA tournament.  I know there is still a lot of season to unfold but as of now what are your thoughts?
I've not studied this closely, but I think there's good balance in this league, particularly in the west. I like 4 teams  on that side - Austin, Trinity, Hendrix and Colorado College. I think it's more of a 2-horse race in the east between DePauw and Centre. Starting in the west, it's tough to decide who's the best. The team impressing me the most right now & perhaps something of a sleeper is Hendrix. This squad I thought was on the cusp of getting it done last year. They have some veteran players, decent depth, and a terrific young coach. I saw them play an early season game and they impressed me with their toughness and their ability to play different basketball styles & tempos. Byler is quietly one of the best in the SCAC. Also like Trinity and Austin but haven't seen either play yet this year. With Katie Williams in the post, Austin is extremely capable. A little outside shooting and controlled guard play improves their chances. I loved Trinity in the post-season last year with their exciting young players.  Know they got waxed by Hendrix earlier so I think the jury's still out on how consistently good they can be.  Colorado College is probably a notch below the others.  DePauw is still the beast of the east, and they receive kudos for beating Centre in Danville earlier. When the Tigers bring their usual high energy style, deep bench and strong offensive rebounding, they're a tough act to follow. They've played probably the strongest out of conference schedule so they're battle-tested. Centre isn't far behind. When their pressure defense generates turnovers & easy baskets they are at their best.  Should they continue to improve their overall rebounding & shooting, they'll contend for the league's number 1.  

All this being said, 1 and possibly 2 SCAC teams get to the dance this year. While none of our league is in the top 25 currently, I think most of the aforementioned teams are capable of competing with some of the elite D3 womens programs.        
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 15, 2010, 07:54:43 AM
Think Hendrix will get two competitive games this weekend @ home from DePauw tonight and Centre on Sunday. These games may help gauge who emerges as a true front-runner.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 16, 2010, 03:11:40 PM
For anyone keeping track, Katy Williams only needs 64 rebounds to tie, 65 to pass Prato-Matthews for the all-time SCAC record after her 16 rebound performance last night.

The 'Roos are really having a fantastic start.  I'll admit, I did not expect them to be 11-3 at this point.  I thought they would have a solid year, but they're surpassing my expectations.  Freshman guard Shayna Clardy has been a revelation and has filled in nicely for graduated senior Maegan Fitzgerald, admirably picking up the slack beyond the arc.  Not sure she has quite the range that Fitzgerald had, but she's turned out to be a really, really good replacement.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 16, 2010, 11:24:44 PM
Quote from: jekelish on January 16, 2010, 03:11:40 PM
For anyone keeping track, Katy Williams only needs 64 rebounds to tie, 65 to pass Prato-Matthews for the all-time SCAC record after her 16 rebound performance last night.

The 'Roos are really having a fantastic start.  I'll admit, I did not expect them to be 11-3 at this point.  I thought they would have a solid year, but they're surpassing my expectations.  Freshman guard Shayna Clardy has been a revelation and has filled in nicely for graduated senior Maegan Fitzgerald, admirably picking up the slack beyond the arc.  Not sure she has quite the range that Fitzgerald had, but she's turned out to be a really, really good replacement.
Jekelish good to have you post. Katy Williams and Austin are definitely shining in the West. I'll be curious to see more of the East-West matchups as the season progresses. From this we'll have a better idea of how Austin stacks up.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 17, 2010, 01:53:10 PM
Hendrix shut down Centre in the final 7 minutes of the 1st half to grab a 4 point lead - 26-22. Hendrix has cut off the Colonels' slashing to the basket for good looks. Centre will need to work a different offensive pattern to score.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on January 17, 2010, 02:37:07 PM
Quote from: Blaster on January 14, 2010, 01:36:07 PM
Any idea on how the top 4 teams from the SCAC would stack up against teams in the top 10?  Also wondering how many teams have a chance of making the NCAA tournament.  I know there is still a lot of season to unfold but as of now what are your thoughts?

Little late to the party on this one, but here's what I think I might possibly have a general concept of knowing for the middle of January.

DePauw has a 5 point loss to the #3 team in the country on a neutral site.  DePauw also has an OT loss to #19 Thomas More in their building.  Those 2 losses are by a combined 8 points.  I don't know how much I put weight in to that BSC loss.  It's obviously worth something, but DePauw has proved to me that was an outlier. 

This is a pretty darn good team that really is starting to hit their stride.  This just might be the start of another one of those "reel off the last 20 in a row as we go to the playoffs" type runs that DePauw likes to go on.  There's some really good wins in this little 9 gamer (counting today's 71-35 win @ Millsaps) that they're on right now.  There's a nice win at Centre in there and a really, really nice good at Baldwin-Wallace, too.  So, I think we're really beginning to see that team put things together.  I'm not sure I think they can be a legit Top 10 team just yet. I'm starting to come around to it, but I think I'll wait for that Austin roadie before I commit to it.

There's some common opponents with some good teams like Maryville(TN) that, to me, may show that DePauw is better than they're being given credit for.  I think that I think that DePauw is the best team in the conference right now.  The schedule is pretty much set for them, too.  There's no Trinity trip for them this year.  All the tough opponents left on the schedule come to the Neal Fieldhouse exluding that trip to Austin on the 29th.  Keep in mind that's a building DePauw hasn't lost a SCAC game in their last SIXTY regular season tries.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 17, 2010, 02:55:50 PM
Wes is right about DePauw now. I think everyone who has seen them play thinks they're the class of the SCAC. Centre didn't help it's cause today in losing by 10 to Hendrix. Centre had 2 big chances in this game to build big leads and couldn't get it done. Hendrix played superior interior defense and fought through it's weak ballhandling to take over the game in the late stages of each half. Got to hand it to Hendrix on a solid defensive game plan in shutting down most of what Centre likes to do. Lauren Huter led the Colonels with 18 points.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Blaster on January 19, 2010, 12:06:50 AM
I had the opportunity to see Depauw and Centre play this weekend and both are good teams.  Depauw plays very well without the ball so they are in great position by the time the ball gets to them.  I was very impressed.  There coach really has them playing in harmony.  Centre has a good press and can handle the ball well.  They are easily the top two teams in the East.  The west is still wide open, so who knows how it will turn out at this point. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 21, 2010, 11:01:19 PM
Friday night projections:

Hendrix squeaks by BSC - 1 pt
CC beats Sewanee - 7 pts
Rhodes wins over Millsaps - 12 pts
DePauw pummels Southwestern - 19 pts
Centre over Trinity - 4 pts
and the upset special is Oglethorpe wins over Austin - 3 pts
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 23, 2010, 06:43:41 PM
Maggie Prewitt is having a career night at the half against Southwestern as Centre leads 46-18.  Maggie has 28 points on 8-11 from the field, 4-4 on 3's and 8-8 from the free throw line.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 23, 2010, 10:39:32 PM
Maggie Prewitt set the Centre single-game scoring record tonight with 37 points in an 80-50 win over Southwestern. She managed 8 rebounds and 4 assists to go with her record game. Chelsea Goodman pitched in 11 in a supporting role. This was a much needed win for the Lady Colonels after Friday's loss to Trinity. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Blaster on January 25, 2010, 12:11:27 AM
Congrats on Centre's win over Southwestern.  In reviewing the results of this weekend's games, it appears that the teams are starting to tighten up.  There were so many close ones with Austin and Hendrix winning close ones and Oglethorpe upsetting CC.  Outside of Depauw, everyone is beginning to play on a competitive level with one another.  The three way run for the top seed in the West between Austin, Hendrix and Trinity will be a great one to follow.  I have noticed over the last two weeks that the level of physical play keeps increasing. Keep the news coming.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 25, 2010, 04:13:51 PM
So just as an update, after grabbing 21 rebounds (in only 28 minutes...unreal!) yesterday, Katy Williams is 22 boards away from tying and 23 away from breaking the SCAC career rebounding record.  Of course with DePauw and Centre coming to Sherman this weekend it'll be tough, but there's a pretty good chance she gets the record this coming weekend.  We'll see what happens...

In other AC news, the 'Roos have won 10 in a row and are 14-3.  They're on pace to have their best record since 03-04 and 04-05, when they went 18-8 both seasons as members of the ASC.  This weekend will be tough, though.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: awadelewis on January 27, 2010, 11:09:32 AM
From the News of the Weird category, a posting on the Sewanee alumni Twitter account reported that last weekend's game between the Sewanee and AC women's teams had to be paused for a few moments as one of the Mountain's canine residents decided they wanted to come and join the people having all the fun on the court:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sewanee/4303373793/

Many thanks to the PR and Marketing folks at Sewanee for publishing the picture to Flickr.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Blaster on January 28, 2010, 02:19:58 PM
Great pic!

Any predictions on this weekend?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 28, 2010, 09:38:35 PM

Blaster the crystal ball for tomorrow's games looks something like this:

Hendrix wins by 11 over Oglethorpe
Sewanee gets shocked at Millsaps by 3
Trinity over BSC by 12
Rhodes gets a nice road win by 5
Austin slays the DePauw giant @ home by 4
Centre ekes out a tight one by 3
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 29, 2010, 06:59:35 PM
No Katy Williams for Austin College tonight, so slaying the DePauw giant will take one great effort from the rest of the 'Roos tonight.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 29, 2010, 08:43:47 PM
Sorry to hear that Austin won't have Williams for DePauw tonight. Might have to switch gears & pick DePauw!

Chelsea Goodman leads Centre with 14 as the Lady Colonels have opened up a 21-point lead at the half 44-23. Colonels are shooting the ball well, getting to the line a lot and are outrebounding CC by 3. Keep up the good work ladies.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 29, 2010, 08:58:31 PM
Final score from Sherman: DePauw 69, AC 38.  The 'Roos just could never get things going offensively, and they ended up shooting something like 25% from the field.  I know it's not an individual game, but the 'Roos were just totally out of sorts without Katy tonight.  Completely changed the game not having her in there, as the Tigers just dominated in the paint tonight and took advantage of a lot of AC mistakes.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 29, 2010, 09:48:23 PM
Lady Colonels were strong tonight at CC as they cruised to an 89-62 win holding the home team to 29% shooting. Centre shot 53% from the field. Goodman broke out of her mini-scoring slump with 24 including 3-5 from behind the arc. She had 7 rebounds and 5 assists. Maggie Prewitt followed up her record scoring night with a solid 19, 7 boards and 6 assists. Lauren Huter scored 15 and Amanda Stovall tallied 12. A very nice road start for Centre - a high octane performance in the high altitude.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 30, 2010, 10:15:39 AM
Congrats to the Millsaps Majors on last night's victory.  Maybe this is a signal of things to come!

Last night the road teams from the East played the home teams of the West 3-3 - DePauw, Centre and Rhodes got the wins.  This in a way shows some of the dominance of certain teams in the SCAC versus the men's side where the East scored no wins last night against the West.

Sorry however that Austin wasn't at full strength last night against DPU without Williams in the lineup.  How much this affected the outcome of the game, I can only speculate.  I think DePauw still wins the game, but not by 30+ points.  What is Katie's status for the remainder of the weekend?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 31, 2010, 01:48:36 PM
Centre Ladies are thumping a Williamsless Austin at the half 41-21.  Prewitt leads Colonels with 11 and Goodman has 8.  Redden has 7 for Austin.  Think Centre, like DePauw, caught a break in Texas this weekend.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 31, 2010, 02:54:09 PM
Final from Sherman: CC 84, AC 67.  Have to like the fight that the 'Roos put up in the second half.  They were down 52-26 at one point and came back to cut it to 77-65 late in the game, all without both Williams and Shayna Clardy, another starter and one of the team's best scorers.

I came away extremely impressed by how the team played in the second half when they could have just as easily folded up.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 31, 2010, 04:13:56 PM
Quote from: jekelish on January 31, 2010, 02:54:09 PM
Final from Sherman: CC 84, AC 67.  Have to like the fight that the 'Roos put up in the second half.  They were down 52-26 at one point and came back to cut it to 77-65 late in the game, all without both Williams and Shayna Clardy, another starter and one of the team's best scorers.

I came away extremely impressed by how the team played in the second half when they could have just as easily folded up.
Looked like the Roos were smoking from behind the arc in the last 10 minutes.  I consider it very fortunate for Centre that Austin played with about 50% of their regular arsenal today.  Colonels have actually played better on the road this season than at home - go figure.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Blaster on January 31, 2010, 06:11:18 PM
Why is Katy Williams out?  Any idea on how long?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 03, 2010, 06:49:40 PM
AC plays Dallas tonight, and the big news is that Katy Williams is in the starting lineup for the 'Roos.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 04, 2010, 09:05:29 PM
Good hear that Katy Williams is back in the lineup at Austin.  Thanks for waiting until Centre left town!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 05, 2010, 05:47:12 PM
Any one for prognosticatiing tonight?

I like Rhodes to win by 13 over Sewanee;
BSA by 10 against Oglethorpe;
Southwestern beats Millsaps by 7;
A good one at Trinity this evening with Trinity defeating Hendrix by 6




Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 05, 2010, 08:18:59 PM
Rhodes is up 49-13 at the half. Poor Sewanee shot free throws @ 100% but was totally inept from the field @ 2-41 with 1-26 from beyond the arc. A bit of a chilly situation during the halftime as the Rhodes cheerleaders had one pyramid set where 2 young ladies took bad spills. One girl was transported out of the gym on an emergency stretcher. I pray her injury is not severe. 2nd half is just underway.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Tennessee_papa on February 06, 2010, 12:17:28 AM
Quote from: pbrooks3 on February 05, 2010, 05:47:12 PM

A good one at Trinity this evening with Trinity defeating Hendrix by 6


Well you were half right and very close to dead on.  Hendrix won 71-70 after being down 6 with 2 minutes left.  Trinity missed a shot in the last couple of seconds that would have won it.

Helluva game though.  Biggest lead either way was 6-ish points.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BBallFanHC on February 06, 2010, 01:27:54 AM
Another great victory for Thad McCracken and the Lady Warriors! When are these ladies going to get some national votes?!? When playing their game there is no one better in the conference. Consistent shooting and rebounding are very hard to beat. 5 deep in the backcourt 5 deep in the frontcourt. The Depauw Hendrix rematch in Jackson is gonna be a great one!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 06, 2010, 09:23:39 AM
Quote from: BBallFanHC on February 06, 2010, 01:27:54 AM
Another great victory for Thad McCracken and the Lady Warriors! When are these ladies going to get some national votes?!? When playing their game there is no one better in the conference. Consistent shooting and rebounding are very hard to beat. 5 deep in the backcourt 5 deep in the frontcourt. The Depauw Hendrix rematch in Jackson is gonna be a great one!

Really outstanding win for Hendrix. I think it's hard to overlook what a tremendous job McCracken is doing with this team. On paper, the Lady Warriors probably don't receive the cred of a DePauw, Trinity or even an Austin. But this team has a collective heart of gold & a passion to go toe-to-toe nightly against anyone. The Centre Colonels played Hendrix tough and actually exposed the Warriors' less than stellar ball-handling prowess (26 turnovers), but in the end this team turned the tables on Centre & gutted it out with great defense & solid rebounding to pick up the win. Bylar is flat-out unspectacular, but a gritty winner. Everyone knows her role on this team.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Tennessee_papa on February 06, 2010, 09:56:27 AM

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Really outstanding win for Hendrix. I think it's hard to overlook what a tremendous job McCracken is doing with this team. On paper, the Lady Warriors probably don't receive the cred of a DePauw, Trinity or even an Austin. But this team has a collective heart of gold & a passion to go toe-to-toe nightly against anyone. The Centre Colonels played Hendrix tough and actually exposed the Warriors' less than stellar ball-handling prowess (26 turnovers), but in the end this team turned the tables on Centre & gutted it out with great defense & solid rebounding to pick up the win. Bylar is flat-out unspectacular, but a gritty winner. Everyone knows her role on this team.

Actually HC did well without Byler last night.  In any tight game like this you can point to any number of things that won or lost the game, but you could argue that Hendrix won the game in the last 13 minutes of the first half.  Byler went to the bench with 2 fouls with 13 minutes and change left in the half and stayed there the remainder of the half.  In that period, Hendrix turned a 4 point deficit into a 4 point halftime lead.  Had Trinity been able to stretch that lead with Byler on the bench....

On the other hand, Byler scored the last 5 points for HC - a 3 with a minute or so left that pulled them within one and then the two free throws at the end.  And she earned the free throws by busting her butt for an offensive board and getting hammered on the ensuing shot.

Trinity had a nice look from 5 or 6 feet right at the buzzer but missed.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 06, 2010, 01:47:19 PM
DePauw Ladies are up 34-29 at the half.  The Tigers are eating up Centre on the boards 24-13.  Fortunately, DePauw is not cashing in on all of their offensive rebounds (14) or this one would be out of hand.  Colonels are shooting pretty well including 4-7 beyond the arc.  Another potential issue for Centre is a number of players with 2 fouls, including Maggie Prewitt who sat for a fair part of the 1st half because of fouls.  Prewitt is going to need to stay in the game in the 2nd half, and Lauren Huter will need to take advantage of her opportunities on the low block to stay close to a tough DePauw bunch.  A few more second chance points for Centre and a few less turnovers would also help the Colonels chances to spring a big victory on the road.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 06, 2010, 02:43:33 PM
DePauw showed their teeth in the 2nd half as they coasted to a 68-50 win.  They held Centre to 21 second half points and outrebounded the Colonels by 22 (52-30).  Interesting stat - DePauw shot it only 35% but got 15 more shots than Centre based on a net gain of 18 offensive boards.  Fernandez and Marshall both had double-doubles for DPU.  Goodman led Centre with 14.  DePauw is comfortably running away with the lead in the SCAC as their league record now is 11-1; I believe this marks their 14th straight win overall.  Not sure there is a SCAC team that will be able to keep up with them in the tournament if they continue to crash the glass like they did today. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 06, 2010, 04:54:33 PM
AC tops Colorado College 87-70 behind 31 points and 16 boards from Katy Williams.  With her 14th rebound of the day, Katy became the all-time career leader in the SCAC.

Huge rebounding advantage for the 'Roos today (almost a 2-to-1 edge), and the 'Roos were hot from three early (after missing their first attempt, they made six in a row to get up big early).  Amber Stafford had a double-double of her own with 10 points and 12 assists, and Kayla Redden hit four threes and finished with 14 points. 

Luetjen had a double-double for CC with 14 and 10 (I think those were her numbers, I could be off, not looking at the stats right now).
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Blaster on February 06, 2010, 08:51:21 PM
HC has a cold shooting night and Southwestern's inside couldn't miss. HC goes down hard tonight after getting beat up last night.  It should have been an easy win but if the ball won't go through the basket not going to win many. It means a showdown with AC will be huge
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 06, 2010, 09:12:32 PM
Quote from: pbrooks3 on February 06, 2010, 02:43:33 PM
Not sure there is a SCAC team that will be able to keep up with them in the tournament if they continue to crash the glass like they did today. 

You know, once every couple years DePauw will run into a stretch where they have two REALLY good post players that they can play together at the 4 and the 5 like Fernandez and Marshall.  It was Liz Bondi & Bridget Bailey in 05-06.  04-05 with Amy Argetsinger and Bondi.  02-03 with Dana Ferguson & Argetsinger.  That's when DePauw gets even tougher to stop.  They've got 2 bigs that you can't handle.  Marshall and Fernandez are each enough of a handful on their own.  Bondi alone was enough.  Argetsinger & Bondi were both 2 time SCAC POTYs.  Put any of that group together and you're really cooking with gas.  I wouldn't call this team a serious contender 2 weeks ago.  I'm ready now.  They just beat a really, really good team and only shot 35%. 

47 wins in a row at home.  52 conference wins in a row at home.  64 regular season wins in a row at home.  Those are insane numbers.  Absolutely unfair.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 07, 2010, 07:42:06 AM
Quote from: Blaster on February 06, 2010, 08:51:21 PM
HC has a cold shooting night and Southwestern's inside couldn't miss. HC goes down hard tonight after getting beat up last night.  It should have been an easy win but if the ball won't go through the basket not going to win many. It means a showdown with AC will be huge

Had Hendrix not shot nearly 50% from beyond the arc in San Antonio they would have lost that game, too.  It didn't hurt that Trinity only got 2 FTs in the second half and never sniffed the bonus all night.  Hendrix has to consider themselves fortunate to get a split on the road trip. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 07, 2010, 01:55:57 PM
Quote from: BBallFanHC on February 06, 2010, 01:27:54 AM
When playing their game there is no one better in the conference.

Alright.  You've perked my interest.  I'm going to bite on this one for discussion's sake, if nothing else. 

Despite losing in their gymnasium to DePauw in a game that neither team played particularly well, despite not beating DePauw in any contest (postseason included) since they won in OT at the Grove Gynmasium in the 03-04 season, and despite losing to DePauw by an average of 15 points in every meeting since that win, you're claiming that Hendrix is better?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Blaster on February 07, 2010, 05:24:13 PM
I have seen all but CC play and DePauw is far and away better than the rest.  HC has had several close calls but pulled them out.  That's what good teams do.  But I dare say that DePauw would win 8 out of 10 times played vs. any of the SCAC teams.  HC depends on great shooting and tough defeanse to win and in a gym like SU where there is no back walls or stands, the shooting depth perception is tough.  If HC was a "pound it inside team" it wouldn't have been a factor but when outside shooting goes away, it spells trouble.  My question remains, with the SCAC being DePauw and everybody else and only DePauw having any national attention, if DePauw wins the tournament, will another SCAC team get an at-large bid to the national tournament?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 07, 2010, 05:29:53 PM
Quote from: Blaster on February 07, 2010, 05:24:13 PM
I have seen all but CC play and DePauw is far and away better than the rest.  HC has had several close calls but pulled them out.  That's what good teams do.  But I dare say that DePauw would win 8 out of 10 times played vs. any of the SCAC teams.  HC depends on great shooting and tough defeanse to win and in a gym like SU where there is no back walls or stands, the shooting depth perception is tough.  If HC was a "pound it inside team" it wouldn't have been a factor but when outside shooting goes away, it spells trouble.  My question remains, with the SCAC being DePauw and everybody else and only DePauw having any national attention, if DePauw wins the tournament, will another SCAC team get an at-large bid to the national tournament?
We will be following the Regional Rankings to see if the SCAC gets a Pool C team.  Currently Hendrix and Trinity are in good position to do that.

http://d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2010/02/03/womens-regional-rankings-feb-3rd/
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 07, 2010, 05:35:05 PM
Unfortunately that was before Hendrix beat Trinity, so for TU it's probably win the tourney or stay home.   But next year ... basically everyone is back.   :)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Blaster on February 08, 2010, 12:20:06 PM
"We will be following the Regional Rankings to see if the SCAC gets a Pool C team"

Please enlighten me on the Pools.  I looked at last year and it looks like a tournament bracket similar to any other tournament.  Are there pools in which you have to play into the tournament or what??  I am new at DIII operations.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 08, 2010, 01:24:21 PM
Quote from: Blaster on February 08, 2010, 12:20:06 PM
Please enlighten me on the Pools.  I looked at last year and it looks like a tournament bracket similar to any other tournament.  Are there pools in which you have to play into the tournament or what??  I am new at DIII operations.  Thanks.

Start here (http://www.d3hoops.com/faq.php?category=NCAA%20Tournament).  That'll give you a basic understanding of all the fancy-pants terminology we're using.

EDIT: Do note that when we talk about regionally related stuff, the DePauw women are in the Great Lakes Region, not the South.  If you go hunting for DePauw in the regional rankings, you won't find them in the south.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 08, 2010, 08:02:47 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 07, 2010, 05:35:05 PM
Unfortunately that was before Hendrix beat Trinity, so for TU it's probably win the tourney or stay home.   But next year ... basically everyone is back.   :)
I see it as DePauw and one other, and that one is either Trinity or Hendrix depending on who finishes strong. If neither plays well these final 2 weeks and drops an opening round SCAC tournament game, I think DePauw is probably the only one that dances. I'm assuming DePauw runs the table in the SCAC which I am predicting will happen. If DePauw loses in the SCAC tournament, we'll have a guaranteed 2 teams.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Tennessee_papa on February 08, 2010, 08:35:26 PM
Quote from: pbrooks3 on February 08, 2010, 08:02:47 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 07, 2010, 05:35:05 PM
Unfortunately that was before Hendrix beat Trinity, so for TU it's probably win the tourney or stay home.   But next year ... basically everyone is back.   :)
I see it as DePauw and one other, and that one is either Trinity or Hendrix depending on who finishes strong. If neither plays well these final 2 weeks and drops an opening round SCAC tournament game, I think DePauw is probably the only one that dances. I'm assuming DePauw runs the table in the SCAC which I am predicting will happen. If DePauw loses in the SCAC tournament, we'll have a guaranteed 2 teams.

You're right, DePauw is in absent a direct meteor hit on Greencastle.  I'm not sure there'll be a second team unless somebody takes out DePauw in the tournament.  Hendrix probably makes it if they don't lose again til the conference finals (and maybe if they don't lose again until the semis).    I don't see Trinity (or Austin or Centre) making it unless they win out through the tournament.  Each of them has 6 or 7 losses and would get one more in the conference tournament in the scenario in which they don't win the conference tournament.  As Ralph says, the South is a bit weaker this year and I don't think a 7 or 8 loss team from the South gets in - Trinity was 20-8 last year and didn't get there.

And it's not that Hendrix is head and shoulders above the latter three, they've just got a better profile because of their record.  The best thing Hendrix did was beat Centre - gives them the head-to-head over Centre and neither Trinity or Austin was able to do it.  Sweeping Trinity doesn't hurt either.

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Blaster on February 08, 2010, 10:53:57 PM
Thanks Wes for the link.  I agree that HX can control their own destiny by winning out and going deep in the tournament.  I would also think Trinity could make the same argument because two of their losses are to the same team.  AC incurred some of their losses while short-handed.  Does that come into the decision process?  From the link it doesn't look like it. 

HX doesn't "dominate" but wins with tough defeanse and good shooting as evident by the lower scores vs. good teams.  SCAC teams has performed well in the past tournaments. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 08, 2010, 11:09:27 PM
Quote from: Blaster on February 08, 2010, 10:53:57 PM
Thanks Wes for the link.  I agree that HX can control their own destiny by winning out and going deep in the tournament.  I would also think Trinity could make the same argument because two of their losses are to the same team.  AC incurred some of their losses while short-handed.  Does that come into the decision process?  From the link it doesn't look like it. 

HX doesn't "dominate" but wins with tough defeanse and good shooting as evident by the lower scores vs. good teams.  SCAC teams has performed well in the past tournaments. 
Short handed doesn't count.   :)


Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 08, 2010, 11:10:15 PM
Hendrix is in right now for me, but we're still a good distance from Selection Sunday. They need to keep winning and give the selection committee no choice. Their OWP won't get them in if it gets close.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 08, 2010, 11:57:27 PM
Quote from: Wes Anderson on February 08, 2010, 11:10:15 PM
Hendrix is in right now for me, but we're still a good distance from Selection Sunday. They need to keep winning and give the selection committee no choice. Their OWP won't get them in if it gets close.
Not a good loss @ Southwestern even though a road game. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Blaster on February 09, 2010, 11:41:46 PM
Is Birmingham Southern eligible to participate in the conference tournament this year?  I know they were "provisional" last year.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Tennessee_papa on February 10, 2010, 05:49:56 AM
Quote from: Blaster on February 09, 2010, 11:41:46 PM
Is Birmingham Southern eligible to participate in the conference tournament this year?  I know they were "provisional" last year.

No.  Not eligible until year after next.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Blaster on February 10, 2010, 11:27:33 AM
I was looking at some of the ranked schools and it appears a conference like SCAC has a major uphill battle in attracting top talent.  Schools in the SCAC have high academic standards and the cost approaches $40,000 / year.  A lot of other schools can attract D-1 transfers because the cost is about a fourth and the academic stress is easier on them. 

Schools in the SCAC has performed well which must be contributed to great coaching.  After the research on other ranked teams, my hats off to the coaches in the SCAC for the great job they do.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 10, 2010, 11:42:14 AM
I don't think that's just this conference. Look at a lot of the schools who have won the championship in the last dozen years or so: NYU, Wash U, DePauw, Trinity, Hope, Milikin, and even the Wilmingtons of the world. Those are some pretty prestigious learning institutions that aren't getting much, if any, true D1 talent in the door.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 10, 2010, 10:12:09 PM
Blaster, Wes is right. The evidence shows a lot of fine DIII academic institutions have produced winners. The SCAC has a lot of good things going for it. Being in the South Region has probably worked against the conference a bit compared to some of the other regions that are stockpiled with teams, but still an impressive resume. There is a great bit of diversity across the D3 ranks, including some conferences (i.e. WIAC) with substantially larger schools. Still I am impressed with our schools and the challenges of geography these teams deal with as compared to many other conferences.  Oh, yes, there is some good coaching as well!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Blaster on February 10, 2010, 10:21:36 PM
New rankings out and Trinity dropped out but I bet they are in the final rankings if they beat AC this weekend.  I did notice that they took away the wins from HX for "out of Region" but not the DePauw loss.  They also included all of the SCAC wins in the DePauw Great Lakes "in Region" wins???  Oh well, all you can do is try to keep winning games on the schedule!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Blaster on February 10, 2010, 10:37:24 PM
After more research, it looks like DePauw is in the same region as its other SCAC members but just "further" broken out from the basic 4 regions for ranking purposes.  Sorry to answer my own question.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 10, 2010, 10:44:56 PM
Quote from: Blaster on February 10, 2010, 10:37:24 PM
After more research, it looks like DePauw is in the same region as its other SCAC members but just "further" broken out from the basic 4 regions for ranking purposes.  Sorry to answer my own question.

Conference games are by definition in-region for all sports.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 12, 2010, 09:01:41 PM
Maggie Prewitt led Centre with 26 as the Lady Colonels win @ Oglethorpe 80-67. Lauren Huter produced a double-double and Angela Tronzo came off the bench to score 12. Lady Colonels head to Sewanee for Sunday's game.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 14, 2010, 03:59:33 PM
Lady Colonels get it done this afternoon on the mountain winning 77-64 over Sewanee.  Lauren Huter scores 17 with 12 rebounds.  Maggie Prewitt tallies 13 along with 9 assists. 

Austin Ladies came back from a 10-point halftime deficit to beat Southwestern with Katy Williams scoring a double-double.

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 14, 2010, 05:01:04 PM
Southwestern was up 53-40 with about 8 minutes left before the 'Roos scored 17 unanswered over the next five minutes, and they pretty much cruised from there for the 6 point win.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 14, 2010, 07:40:22 PM
Quote from: jekelish on February 14, 2010, 05:01:04 PM
Southwestern was up 53-40 with about 8 minutes left before the 'Roos scored 17 unanswered over the next five minutes, and they pretty much cruised from there for the 6 point win.
Must have been a nerve-racking game to watch as a Roos fan! 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Blaster on February 14, 2010, 09:21:10 PM
Looks like the East is locked in for the tournament and the West will go down to the wire for 1st/2nd and 4th.  Congrats to Trinity for locking in W 3rd vs Centre the E 2nd.

DePauw 1E vs. S.western/Co College 4W
AC/HX 2W vs. Rhodes 3E

AC/HX 1W vs. Oglethorpe 4E
Centre 2E vs. Trinity 3W

Also great comeback by AC and great effort by Oglethorpe this weekend!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 16, 2010, 04:20:06 PM
So, anyone want to take a shot at predicting SCAC Player of the Year, Newcomer of the Year, Coach of the Year and All-Conference 1st Team?

For me:

Player of the Year - Katy Williams

Newcomer of the Year - honestly, no idea

Coach of the Year - I'm not sure on this either, but I would kinda be surprised if it didn't go to Hendrix or AC

1st Team:

Katy Williams
Christina Byler
Emily Marshall
Maggie Prewitt
Becky Luetjen


(I originally had Danielle Hubenak over Marshall, but figured that DePauw needed to have someone represented and Hubenak was the odd person out)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 16, 2010, 06:09:32 PM
Quote from: jekelish on February 16, 2010, 04:20:06 PM
Coach of the Year - I'm not sure on this either, but I would kinda be surprised if it didn't go to Hendrix or AC

We had a heckuva hullabaloo last year about this when Wendy Austin-Robinson won the COTY over Ron Sattele.  I think it could go to any one of Thad McCracken, Debra Hunter, or Kris Huffman without much explanation needed.  It's going to be hard to turn Huffman away if she gets to Championship Sunday with a 17-1 record inside the conference and wins over both other candidates.  Although, it's clear the coaches will reward a signifcant turnaround like one Debra Hunter has had this season.  She's going to double their win total before it's all done.

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 16, 2010, 06:23:14 PM
Agreed, particularly about Deb.  I have to say, she and her team have absolutely crushed my preseason expecations.  I was figuring it'd be maybe a .500 year, but they have been simply outstanding.  I was going to put Deb Hunter as my choice, but didn't want to seem like too much of a homer.  The fact remains that what she and her team have done this year (thanks in LARGE part to Katy Williams...and I cannot stress enough how important Katy is to the team's success, which is why I think she should be the runaway winner for Player of the Year) are beyond anyone's expectations and I think they could (should?) be rewarded with a COTY award.  They have by so far surpassed preseason forecasts that it's not even funny.

And as for Katy, not only is she in the top four in scoring, leading in rebounding, second in FG %, but anyone who has watched any AC games both with and without her knows that quite frankly, and not to take anything away from the other players at AC (and there are some talented girls there), she absolutely makes that team go, and she is by far the most important player to her team that I've seen in the SCAC this season.  And, again based on what I've seen, it's not even close.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Blaster on February 16, 2010, 09:27:32 PM
Interesting choices.  I was thinking about this last week and to me stats do not always tell the whole story.  However, it is what most look to especially scoring.  Here is my selection for 1st team SCAC (oddly enough 1st team is much easier to decide than 2nd team)

Post/Center - Katy Williams (AC)
Forward - Becky Luetjen (CC)
Forward - Christina Byler (HX)
Guard - Maggie Prewitt (CEN)
Guard - Hubenak (TU)/Morris (HX)

Player of the Year - Maggie Prewitt (Cen) 2nd in scoring, 6th FG%, 1st in Assists, 4th in FT%, 2nd in Steals, 4th in Assist/TO, all without having to be on the floor the whole game. 


New Comer of the Year - Alex Adams  I know she doesn't have the stats because of how her coach distributes minutes but I saw great potential and believe she is a star in the making.

Coach of the Year - I agree with the three choices, I would say if one of these three wins the tournament, they deserve the COTY.

Choosing a second team and honorable mention can be a whole portfolio of options.  In this league finding multiple true Post players can be tough to fill the traditional 5 spot teams (only AC and MC list a Center/Post).
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 16, 2010, 10:34:07 PM
McCracken has done a marvelous job as a 1st year coach. Also think Hunter has been excellent. I vote Huffman Coach of the Year based on a fantastic season with a scrappy balanced group that I honestly didn't believe early in the season had much talent.  Impressive coaching job all the way around in my book.

POTY should go to Katy Williams, though I think Luetjen and Prewitt were close to earning it as well.

I'll pick 1st & 2nd teams after this weekend. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 16, 2010, 10:51:34 PM
Quote from: Blaster on February 16, 2010, 09:27:32 PM
Coach of the Year - I agree with the three choices, I would say if one of these three wins the tournament, they deserve the COTY.

The balloting for Coach of the Year is conducted before that.  It's announced at halftime of the SCAC Championship game.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Blaster on February 17, 2010, 10:38:39 AM
Why would they announce it at half-time when possibly the Coach of the Year and/or Player of the Year are in the locker room getting ready for the second half?  Seems like a post game event would be more meaningful or possibly half time of the Mens game???

In looking at possible second teamers, I realize that there are a lot of talented Sophomores in the conference which bodes well for national recognition in the years to come, provided they don't knock each other off with parity play. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 17, 2010, 11:10:06 AM
I suppose the men's game isn't a bad idea. The post-game is reserved for cutting the nets down.

The whole thing is never a very large to-do since all but 1 or 2 winners have already skipped town anyway.

The bigger point I was making is that you can't wait to see who wins the title game before voting.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Blaster on February 17, 2010, 05:40:35 PM
Granted!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Blaster on February 17, 2010, 05:59:40 PM
Wow, the third regional rankings are in and HX wins two more games and gets kicked out of the rankings???  I guess coaches will have to try to run up the score on opponents instead of trying to get as many girls playing time as possible.  I like seeing girls who practice all week get an opportunity to play some.  This sends the signal that you have to kick someone when they are down.  Not sending the right message in my opinion.  If they take HX out at least put AC in.  SCAC deserves 1 rep in the rankings.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 17, 2010, 10:08:52 PM
I wouldn't be too concerned just yet.  Miss Coll lost last night, so they'll probably fall back out next week.  Howard Payne still has a finale left with a pretty good UMHB team. 

Margin of victory isn't a criterion for selection, btw.

EDIT: I'm beginning to wane on a second SCAC team's chances.  Hendrix's S.O.S and OWP are terrible.  Austin's aren't all that much better.  While there's still a lot of ball left to play, even if one of the two gets back up to 4th or 5th in the region, it's going to be tough to have their name called on Selection Sunday right now.  The good news is UMHB, HPU, Miss Coll, & Louisiana Coll all have worse S.O.S. & OWP's than either of the SCAC contenders.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Tennessee_papa on February 17, 2010, 10:50:04 PM
Quote from: Blaster on February 17, 2010, 05:59:40 PM
Wow, the third regional rankings are in and HX wins two more games and gets kicked out of the rankings???  I guess coaches will have to try to run up the score on opponents instead of trying to get as many girls playing time as possible.  I like seeing girls who practice all week get an opportunity to play some.  This sends the signal that you have to kick someone when they are down.  Not sending the right message in my opinion.  If they take HX out at least put AC in.  SCAC deserves 1 rep in the rankings.

Some of this is just math.  HC's OWP took a pretty good hit on Saturday when they played 0-20whatever Millsaps.  As Wes pointed out, one of the teams ahead of them (Mississippi College) has already taken a loss since the current rankings were done, and another team in front of them (either Howard Payne or UMHB) is guaranteed to take a loss this coming weekend.  Plus it's a decent to good OWP weekend for Hendrix since they get Austin and CC.  Of course, they've got to win both.

Quote from: Wes Anderson on February 17, 2010, 10:08:52 PM
EDIT: I'm beginning to wane on a second SCAC team's chances.  Hendrix's S.O.S and OWP are terrible.  Austin's aren't all that much better.  While there's still a lot of ball left to play, even if one of the two gets back up to 4th or 5th in the region, it's going to be tough to have their name called on Selection Sunday right now.  The good news is UMHB, HPU, Miss Coll, & Louisiana Coll all have worse S.O.S. & OWP's than either of the SCAC contenders.

Hendrix is probably marginal for an at-large bid.  I think they probably do it if they win out up until the SCAC finals and lose to DePauw if it's respectable.  Any slip up before next Sunday in Jackson and they're done.  Like you say, the ASC teams that may be competing with HC for a spot aren't in great shape either.  The school with the best SOS/OWP that nobody's talking about but prob ought to watch is UTD.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Blaster on February 17, 2010, 11:20:27 PM
Probably not worth getting worked up about at this stage.  You are right, there is still a lot of important games to play before worrying about national tournaments.  HX still has to play two tough teams this weekend.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 19, 2010, 07:42:56 PM
I hold to my original post - DePauw is the only at-large possibility from the SCAC this year; honestly think they'll win it all and this will become a mute point.

Centre Lady Colonels broke away late in the game to win over BSC 73-54. This game was close the majority of the way. Huter led Centre with 15 points & 11 rebounds.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Tennessee_papa on February 19, 2010, 08:39:13 PM
Hendrix holds off Austin 64-59 to clinch #1 in the west.  HX lead pretty much wire to wire, but never by much (biggest lead was 9).  AC got within 2 in the last minute but couldn't catch up.

Austin's coach was not in the building for some reason.

Quote from: pbrooks3 on February 19, 2010, 07:42:56 PM
I hold to my original post - DePauw is the only at-large possibility from the SCAC this year; honestly think they'll win it all and this will become a mute point.

The only SCAC team other than DePauw with any shot at an at-large at this point is Hendrix, and I think they probably need to get to the tournament final or else they have no chance at all.

And congrats to Millsaps - the conference website is showing that they beat Colorado College.  A tough season any way you look at it, but at least they didn't go 0 for the season.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 20, 2010, 10:27:25 AM
This one Millsaps did win!  Earlier in the season I credited them 1 night with a win against Sewanee based on an erroneous entry on the SCAC website.

Tennessee_Papa, hope you get your wish on Hendrix. I'm not confident they go to the D3 tournament without taking care of business in the SCAC. Great season for Hendrix regardless of what happens from here.

How many posters are tournament-bound next weekend for Jackson MS?  I for one will be there.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 20, 2010, 12:35:10 PM
Quote from: pbrooks3 on February 20, 2010, 10:27:25 AM
How many posters are tournament-bound next weekend for Jackson MS?  I for one will be there.

Make sure you have the Steak-Out, my friend.  Steak delivered to your door.  It's my favorite part of Jackson.  If you do, get the cheesecake, too.

Don't know why that's not a national sensation.  There's a million dollar idea I can get behind.  I call you, you bring me a steak.  Remarkable.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 20, 2010, 10:42:09 PM
Wonder if they'll bring the steak to the gym!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 20, 2010, 11:54:07 PM
Quote from: Blaster on February 17, 2010, 05:59:40 PM
Wow, the third regional rankings are in and HX wins two more games and gets kicked out of the rankings???  I guess coaches will have to try to run up the score on opponents instead of trying to get as many girls playing time as possible.  I like seeing girls who practice all week get an opportunity to play some.  This sends the signal that you have to kick someone when they are down.  Not sending the right message in my opinion.  If they take HX out at least put AC in.  SCAC deserves 1 rep in the rankings.
Margin of victory is not a criterion.

By now, the OWP and the OOWP is beginning to impact the criteria.

I think that Hendrix may be a very close #7 in the region.  If the NCAA Women's Basketball Committees were to rank one team for every 6.5 schools, then we would have seen 8 teams ranked in the South Region.  The extra teams ranked would expand the evaluation in the region.

The SCAC does have one rep in its region, DePauw in the Great Lakes Region.

As for the ASC, the ASC is known for its OWP/OOWP to end up at .500 because the conference plays 20/21 conference games.  I think that the Committee has factored that into the rankings.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: madison on February 21, 2010, 02:46:23 AM
My vote for COTY would be Thad McCracken. Hendrix did well hiring him!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 21, 2010, 09:55:39 AM
Quote from: madison on February 21, 2010, 02:46:23 AM
My vote for COTY would be Thad McCracken. Hendrix did well hiring him!
Can't really argue with you over the choice, but I think everyone just takes Chris Huffman for granted at DePauw. She has really earned the Coach of the Year this year with a balanced group of young ladies who play their hearts out nightly.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 21, 2010, 01:53:40 PM
Quote from: pbrooks3 on February 21, 2010, 09:55:39 AM
She has really earned the Coach of the Year this year with a balanced group of no-names who play their hearts out nightly.

I know you don't mean anything negative by that, but I'd say Marshall & Fernandez are hardly no names. Yeah, DePauw has played especially well considering they don't have a dominant guard who can just take over, but you don't really need one when you have 2 posts that are better than any 1 post player that you're likely to run into on most nights.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 21, 2010, 05:52:01 PM
Quote from: Wes Anderson on February 21, 2010, 01:53:40 PM
Quote from: pbrooks3 on February 21, 2010, 09:55:39 AM
She has really earned the Coach of the Year this year with a balanced group of no-names who play their hearts out nightly.

I know you don't mean anything negative by that, but I'd say Marshall & Fernandez are hardly no names. Yeah, DePauw has played especially well considering they don't have a dominant guard who can just take over, but you don't really need one when you have 2 posts that are better than any 1 post player that you're likely to run into on most nights.
Regretted my choice of words after I posted earlier!  Let's simply say that this might be Huffman's most evenly balanced team, which may work to their advantage as they try to go deep into the D3 tournament this year.  No ego problems with this bunch; a little different than Calipari at Kentucky!

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Blaster on February 21, 2010, 11:18:42 PM
I must say that DePauw was the best tuned of any team I saw this year.  She definately deserves strong consideration.  A lot goes into coaching that most never see.  Adams produced a big turn around for AC and McCracken took a group of girls that had lost their appetite for ball and really got them to love it again.  Tough call for voters!

Congrats to HX for finishing strong.

I will be in Jackson.  Hopefully HX didn't use up all of their shooting carma today.

   
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hendrixfan on February 22, 2010, 11:19:29 PM
Good luck to the ladies from Hendrix as they play in the tournament!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 23, 2010, 06:32:11 PM
An important couple of days here for DePauw.  I'm sure that group is getting ready for their weekend in Jackson, but I'm not, so I'm poll watching.  Thomas More, a team that beat DePauw early, lost over the weekend. If DePauw can similarly pass them in the region rankings despite the head-to-head result, they're setting themselves up to not have to go back when the selections are announced.   

Also, I know I bring this point up every other season, but it's an important one.  This is an even-numbered year, meaning the men have the priority to host.  With Hope, Wash U, and Thomas More's men all with a good chance to get in, that's some awfully good news for the Old Gold.  They'd certainly love to open the playoffs in the building that they've won 49 straight in.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Blaster on February 23, 2010, 08:40:42 PM
Wes,  i know I am new to D3 playoffs but what does the men having priority have to do with DePauw playing at home?  Also any change in opinion on HX getting an at large bid (hopefully they won't need it).   
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 23, 2010, 09:15:50 PM
Quote from: Blaster on February 23, 2010, 08:40:42 PM
Wes,  i know I am new to D3 playoffs but what does the men having priority have to do with DePauw playing at home?  Also any change in opinion on HX getting an at large bid (hopefully they won't need it).   
Wes is suggesting this is good for the DePauw women hosting given that these other regional schools on the men's side would be good candidates to host 1st round D3 tournament games.  These schools' women's teams are likely to make the tournament and might have to travel to DePauw to play since their gyms might be hosting men's games.  I still don't like Hendrix's chance of a bid without winning the SCAC tournament.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scaccommish on February 23, 2010, 09:29:45 PM
SCAC Hoops Weekly - Tournament Edition
http://scacsports.com/sports/wbkb/2009-10/weekly_reports/WBBAL-Week13.pdf (http://scacsports.com/sports/wbkb/2009-10/weekly_reports/WBBAL-Week13.pdf)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 24, 2010, 12:08:42 AM
Exactly. Hope's men and Wash U.'s men both have really good chances at hosting, too.

Blaster, this is important because of the distance rule. If teams are 500+ miles apart, the NCAA has to fly them. DePauw is in a perfect place geographically because they're centrally located for a lot of the Great Lakes schools. With the Hope's and Wash U.'s likely having to leave home, and only so many teams within that distance, it's much more likely they host. If you theoretically have DePauw, a Michigan team, Wash U., and a NCAC team, DePauw is the only school to host without making anyone fly.

They would also like to get ahead and stay ahead of Thomas More in the region rankings. That building has not been kind to them. No doubt they'd much rather see the Saints in Greencastle.

EDIT: On Hendrix, I still say it doesn't look good for a C.  We'll know more with the region rankings later on today, but I think they sealed their fate a couple weeks back with the Southwestern loss.  I think that had the SCAC bracket been different, a win on Saturday against DePauw and then a loss on Sunday might have been enough.  But, it doesn't matter now because a win over DePauw ensures the Pool A anyway.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Blaster on February 24, 2010, 02:48:59 PM
Good info to know.  The Regional Ranking from last week (17th) was disheartening.  While HX had better ranking criteria in most areas, they dropped out of the regional ranking. 

         Win %      OWP      OOWP        SOS
HX     .810         .507       .510         .508

CN    1.000        .495       .510         .500
Ron    .909         .489       .501         .493
MHB   .792         .492       .504         .496
LC      .900         .483       .508         .491
MC     .760         .490       .501         .494
HP      .800         .484       .504         .491

As you can see HX ranked 4th in Win %, 1st in OWP, 1st in OOWP, and 1st in SOS.  How do they get eliminated when ranking is supposed to be "mathematical"?  Since then we have added two more victories and if we get to the championship game, I don't see how they can be left home.  Oh well, based on the math, only conference tournament winners will get to go from the south since DePauw will be playing the the Great Lakes region.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 24, 2010, 03:35:10 PM
Because the math isn't the only criterion. The region rankings give us a good idea about what the NCAA thinks about all the criteria.

Look at what Hendrix has not done in regards to all the criteria. I hate to sound too critical while trying to explain the selection process, but there just isn't anything in the other criteria besides the math that makes Hendrix a good candidate. If Hendrix had a great OWP & SOS, then maybe. But even that isn't that good. They have no wins vs ranked teams. They don't have a great region record.  Hendrix did not return to the region rankings this week, which seals their fate as far as I'm concerned. They must win 3 this weekend.

On the DePauw side, I was disappointed to see Thomas More not move down with a loss. However, one of TMC & Wash & Jeff will lose in the PAC tourney this weekend. We'll see where the dust settles if DePauw can win them all this weekend.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Tennessee_papa on February 24, 2010, 06:14:28 PM
Quote from: Wes Anderson on February 24, 2010, 03:35:10 PM
Because the math isn't the only criterion. The region rankings give us a good idea about what the NCAA thinks about all the criteria.

Look at what Hendrix has not done in regards to all the criteria. I hate to sound too critical while trying to explain the selection process, but there just isn't anything in the other criteria besides the math that makes Hendrix a good candidate. If Hendrix had a great OWP & SOS, then maybe. But even that isn't that good. They have no wins vs ranked teams. They don't have a great region record.  Hendrix did not return to the region rankings this week, which seals their fate as far as I'm concerned. They must win 3 this weekend.

Wes - Hard to argue with your conclusion, but just for the sake of discussion, let's compare HC and UMHB.  They should be pretty comparable - HC is the weaker of the two division champs in the SCAC and UMHB is the weaker of the two division champs in the ASC.  I'm using the selection criteria published on d3hoops:

In region W-L:  HC 17-4 (.81), UMHB 19-5 (.792)   Slight advantage HC

OWP:  HC .507, UMHB .492
OOWP:  HC .511, UMHB .504
SOS:  HC .508, UMHB .496   Big advantage HC (50 slots ahead of UMHB according to d3hoops)

vs. in-region ranked:  HC 0-2, UMHB 3-1 Big advantage UMHB (HC hurt here by Trinity's late-season semi-slump).

vs. in-region common op:  HC 5-2, UMHB 3-2  Advantage HC

no head-to-head

So HC is ahead of UMHB in all criteria except record vs. in-region ranked.  How does that make UMHB #4 in the region (and a strong candidate for a C) and Hendrix nowhere (and not really a candidate for a C)?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Blaster on February 24, 2010, 07:22:53 PM
I think everyone agrees that DePauw belongs and should be granted a host site. 

This weeks regional rankings just came out and again HX is left out even with superior metrics.  DePauw is the strongest champ over the season but HX is champ over the western division which had more wins against eastern division than the east had against the west (19 vs. 17) and 6 of those included Millsap which played tough at home.  Of the rankings only Christopher Newport and Ronoke can be justified ahead of HX based only on the winning % metric.   I did note that HX at least got 5 votes in the Top 25 poll.

Looks like the regional rankings are heavily skewed to the ASC but the SCAC western teams went 8-4 against ASC teams.  The only 'black eye" was HX loss to Mississippi College.

We can statistically justify HX but they could still run the risk of losing the first game (don't want to jinx them).  It is still about winning on the court but I would just like to see them get a chance because the voting for the national ranking seems to be heavily emphasized to the midwest and northeast areas.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 25, 2010, 12:21:00 AM
Well T_P, I've got a few reasons, but I don't know how much you (or any SCAC fans) are going to like any of them.  Just my feelings on the selection process, and no slight is meant against Hendrix.

There are five primary criteria for selection (region win pct, S.O.S., in-region H2H, common in-region opponents, and win pct vs regionally ranked teams), but let's keep in mind that nobody ever said that each one was weighted at 20%.  The feeling I have is that while S.O.S. is a criteria for selection, having a slight advantage in those numbers does nothing to counteract the record vs regionally ranked teams.  The few years I've been around this have told me that the record vs regionally ranked teams is the big deal here if you have a mediocre region record.  You have to have that if you're on the bubble.  Your S.O.S. will NOT bail you out if it's marginal, and Hendrix has a S.O.S. & OWP that isn't even marginal.  It's bad.  Also, just because your S.O.S. is better than somebody else's by .012 doesn't mean that they're going to think you're a better candidate.  That's such a small difference in a criteria that I don't think the NCAA weighs all that heavily when the numbers are as close as these are here.  50 spots apart, yes, but fairly close numerically.

Furthermore, the S.O.S. is meant to distinguish between teams with similar win percentages.  How much of a difference between Hendrix & UMHB is enough to counteract the fact that the Crusaders have been excellent against quality teams and Hendrix has not?  Whatever that number is, .012 isn't it.  The conclusion we reach is that Hendrix hasn't done it for the NCAA.  That much is clear.  To conclude this point, my feeling is that the NCAA has established that you can make up for a crappy OWP with a great record vs. regionally ranked opponents.  Hendrix can't do that.  UMHB can.  They're .750 against regionally-ranked teams.  That's why they are probably going, barring a bunch of upsets in other conference tournaments.

Also, I'd say that while this process is allegedly conducted in a vacuum from one year to the next, the ASC has a good playoff track record.  While DePauw's last decade is good, TU has a title, and OU went to the final four, Hendrix doesn't have that fall back on.  While, again, this isn't technically a criteria, is the human element saying "Do we take a team from the ASC which historically does well in the tournament and has beat some good teams OR do we take Hendrix that had a nice season but has nothing on their resume that makes them as worthy of a playoff spot?"  That's a harsh statement, I know, but that's the state of their affairs.  Trust me, I want Hendrix to get in as much as anybody else, but I understand why the NCAA thinks this.  They don't have a good resume.  UMHB doesn't have a good one either, but at least they've beaten somebody.  In fact, they've been three somebodys.  Hendrix is a good basketball team.  Please don't take this as criticism.  But, a team with an .810 region win pct, a S.O.S. in the 180's and no wins against regionally ranked teams isn't getting a Pool C.  They just aren't.  Even if they were fifth or sixth in the region rankings this week, they still didn't have a chance.  The resume just isn't good enough.

A quick note on DePauw, they're going into this with no wins against regionally ranked teams.  Their region record is the only thing keeping them in this.  Their OWP is 140.  I think that's going to cost them.  If W&J beats TMC, I don't think DePauw passes the Saints.  Not only did TMC beat them 3 months ago, but they also have a better record vs regionally ranked teams.  I don't think DePauw will host.  I've been wrong about that before, but it would almost have to be more of a geographic need than anything else to me.  There's too many good teams around DePauw for me to be confident about home games.

(edited for egregious typos)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 25, 2010, 12:40:50 AM
Hendrix and UMHB can be compared against mutual opponents and regionally ranked teams at the time of the selection.

Hendrix is 5-2 vs:
at UOzarks W 75-73
UT-Tyler W 78-69
Mississippi College L 72-62
Trinity W 57-51
Southwestern W 85-64
at Trinity W 71-70
at Southwestern L 70-55

vs Regionally Ranked teams  (0-2):
DePauw  L 65-62 52
Mississippi College L 72-62


UMHB is 3-2 vs:
Southwestern W 73-52
at Trinity L 77-67
at UOzarks W 79-68
at UT-Tyler L 56-49
Mississippi College W 76-71

Vs Regionally Ranked teams  (3-1):

Louisiana College W 53-44
Mississippi College W 76-71
Howard Payne W 63-59
at Howard Payne L 73-53

IMHO, in the minds of the committee, I think that Hendrix is ranked about "7th or 8th".


Errata:  DePauw beat Hendrix 65-52.  I must have misread the screen.  Thanks for the correction.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Tennessee_papa on February 25, 2010, 08:00:44 AM
Ralph and Wes - Let me be explicit just so there's no misunderstanding.  I'm not complaining or saying that HC will have been cheated if they don't get a C bid.  I understand that they're marginal at best for one.  I did perceive before Wes's post that the committee is inclined to think that the ASC is stronger than the SCAC this season, which I'm not really seeing and is why I did the comparison I did.  The ASC is perhaps a little more top-heavy, but head-to-head the SCAC was 10-7 vs. the ASC this year, and two of the ASC wins were against Millsaps.  None of the SCAC teams played Schreiner.  I think (not sure about this one) that in inter-conference play between tournament qualifiers, the conferences split 5-5.

I could do the same comparison between UTD and UMHB to take the inter-conference thing out of it.  Even though their record is not as good, I think UTD is a stronger candidate than UMHB because their SOS is really good (and probably a better candidate than Hendrix as well).  And UTD beat UMHB head-to-head.  So I guess I'm simply saying that either HC is underrated or UMHB is overrated.

Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 25, 2010, 12:40:50 AM

IMHO, in the minds of the committee, I think that Hendrix is ranked about "7th or 8th".


I'm figuring they've got to be 7th, and based on the comparison to UMHB im guessing that there's not a lot of difference between 3rd and 7th,  so what happens this weekend in Pineville and Jackson is going to have a lot to do with what happens in the end.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 25, 2010, 12:02:51 PM
Ralph, it's not a big deal since margin of victory doesn't matter, but DePauw beat Hendrix by 13, not 3.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 25, 2010, 09:03:37 PM
Agree with Wes and Ralph on Hendrix. Hendrix is a nice team but having watched them several times earlier I see no way they sneak into the dance unless they run the table this weekend. One opinion that counts for nothing, but I think the regional rankings are pretty close on this one.


Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 26, 2010, 02:58:19 PM
Live stats links have been added to the live audio for today's games.  Go to

http://gomajors.com/sports/2010/2/15/GEN_0215102137.aspx?path=mbball
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 26, 2010, 08:17:45 PM
Quote from: Tennessee_papa on February 25, 2010, 08:00:44 AM
Ralph and Wes - Let me be explicit just so there's no misunderstanding.  I'm not complaining or saying that HC will have been cheated if they don't get a C bid.  I understand that they're marginal at best for one.  I did perceive before Wes's post that the committee is inclined to think that the ASC is stronger than the SCAC this season, which I'm not really seeing and is why I did the comparison I did.  The ASC is perhaps a little more top-heavy, but head-to-head the SCAC was 10-7 vs. the ASC this year, and two of the ASC wins were against Millsaps.  None of the SCAC teams played Schreiner.  I think (not sure about this one) that in inter-conference play between tournament qualifiers, the conferences split 5-5.

I could do the same comparison between UTD and UMHB to take the inter-conference thing out of it.  Even though their record is not as good, I think UTD is a stronger candidate than UMHB because their SOS is really good (and probably a better candidate than Hendrix as well).  And UTD beat UMHB head-to-head.  So I guess I'm simply saying that either HC is underrated or UMHB is overrated.

Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 25, 2010, 12:40:50 AM

IMHO, in the minds of the committee, I think that Hendrix is ranked about "7th or 8th".


I'm figuring they've got to be 7th, and based on the comparison to UMHB im guessing that there's not a lot of difference between 3rd and 7th,  so what happens this weekend in Pineville and Jackson is going to have a lot to do with what happens in the end.


I actually think that the ASC-West is "top 5-heavy", and Concordia-Texas would have been strong if they had not been hit with the injury bug (about 4-6 of their top 10 players early in the season.)

I think that the battles in the ASC-West do a good job of preparing teams for the tourney.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 26, 2010, 08:50:55 PM
Quote from: Tennessee_papa on February 25, 2010, 08:00:44 AM
Ralph and Wes - Let me be explicit just so there's no misunderstanding.  I'm not complaining or saying that HC will have been cheated if they don't get a C bid.  I understand that they're marginal at best for one.  I did perceive before Wes's post that the committee is inclined to think that the ASC is stronger than the SCAC this season, which I'm not really seeing and is why I did the comparison I did.  The ASC is perhaps a little more top-heavy, but head-to-head the SCAC was 10-7 vs. the ASC this year, and two of the ASC wins were against Millsaps.  None of the SCAC teams played Schreiner.  I think (not sure about this one) that in inter-conference play between tournament qualifiers, the conferences split 5-5.

I could do the same comparison between UTD and UMHB to take the inter-conference thing out of it.  Even though their record is not as good, I think UTD is a stronger candidate than UMHB because their SOS is really good (and probably a better candidate than Hendrix as well).  And UTD beat UMHB head-to-head.  So I guess I'm simply saying that either HC is underrated or UMHB is overrated.

Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 25, 2010, 12:40:50 AM

IMHO, in the minds of the committee, I think that Hendrix is ranked about "7th or 8th".


I'm figuring they've got to be 7th, and based on the comparison to UMHB im guessing that there's not a lot of difference between 3rd and 7th,  so what happens this weekend in Pineville and Jackson is going to have a lot to do with what happens in the end.

The other interesting fact about the SCAC-ASC games is that the SCAC school was listed at home team for 14 of the 17 games.

Two of the SCAC wins were AC's wins over LeTU (4-21/ 4-16).
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Tennessee_papa on February 27, 2010, 12:11:14 PM
Ralph - Looks like I accidentally touched a nerve.  No offense was intended.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 27, 2010, 01:48:03 PM
I'll let you know that you certainly did no such thing with me.  I feel pretty safe speaking for Ralph here when I say we really enjoy this kind of thing.  This, to me, is so much more fun than talking about RPI and the rather ambiguous D1 selection process.  There's a set of rules here, and while they can be interpreted a few different ways, the selection process sticks to the rules. 

A good portion of my novel post was also directed towards Blaster, who has claimed now for the third week in a row that because the S.O.S. numbers were in Hendrix's favor, the Fightin' McCracken's weren't getting a fair shake, which I don't believe any of the rest of us feel to be accurate.  The wins aren't there.  They just aren't.  You better have only 3-4 region losses if you don't have any wins.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Tennessee_papa on February 27, 2010, 03:04:38 PM
Wes, HC has to get past Centre tonight or it's all moot anyway.  I watched the first half of Centre's game last night and from what I saw beating them ain't going to be easy.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Blaster on February 27, 2010, 04:57:06 PM
My posts are merely trying to understand the process. A response to one of my first posts was the rankings for D3 was a "mathmatical" process using the metrics I used in my later posts. If this is not the case that's fine.  I personally believe that only conference champs or tournament champs whichever the conf chooses should go to the NCAA tournament with no selection process but what fun would that be. I wouldn't have had anything to post about. I enjoy the dialogue but know you must win or go home!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 27, 2010, 08:56:33 PM
Well, Hendrix is laying it on the line so far against Centre with a 37-34 lead at the half. A pretty physical opening stanza with Hendrix getting the style game they like. They've gone to the free throw line and made a bunch. Centre is turning them over some but the Lady Colonels are turning it over too often on the offensive end. Prewitt has been bottled up; Byler has gone off for close to 20 points with 4 3's.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Blaster on February 28, 2010, 12:16:19 AM
Congrats to Centre. Too much Huter to open the second half. Congrats to HX as well on a great season. 20-5 is fun for the girls as well as the fans. Great job to a first year head coach McCracken (our coach of the year).  I am excited for the SCAC. Hx and Centre has several players that are Sophomores which bodes well for the future. I enjoyed the board.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 28, 2010, 10:03:37 AM
Hendrix scrapped the entire 40 minutes and it was fortunate for Centre that they fouled out Byler & Devlin late. Think the Colonels' coaches had to tell their girls to drive it straight at Byler to attempt to get the 5th foul. Sophomore Lauren Huter was huge coming up with 6 straight baskets to open the 2nd half to finish with 22 along with 11 rebounds. She had the 2nd half Centre needed her to have.  Freshman Chelsea Benham played "lights out" as well with 18 points. A hard fought victory by Centre over a tenacious Hendrix team. Congrats to the Warriors on an outstanding season. Centre marches on to meet their rival from the north - DePauw. Go Lady Colonels!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 28, 2010, 04:19:09 PM
DePauw up at the half 33-24. They've shot the ball better than Centre and turned it over less than the Colonels.   Centre needs to take it hard to the basket in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 28, 2010, 07:40:59 PM
DePauw showed why they are at the top of the class in the SCAC as they produced an impressive win over Centre in the title game 63-37. The Tigers played tremendous defense holding Centre to 15 second half points. Centre bows out with a fantastic 19-win season.  Centre moved another positive step closer towards getting to the "big dance" by making it to the SCAC title game this year.  Congratulations, Lady Colonels on a wonderful basketball season. Good luck DePauw - represent the SCAC proudly as you march on. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on February 28, 2010, 09:57:21 PM
Just looked at Pat's projected bracket and it made me reach up and loosen my collar.  He's got it as another trip to Thomas More with Franklin and Maryville(TN).  If DePauw gets out of there, they're in a real struggle with what's likely to be IWU, Hope, & Carthage.  Yikes. 

I'll spend my evening hoping the NCAA finds it in their hearts to be a little kinder than that tomorrow.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 28, 2010, 10:21:11 PM
Quote from: Wes Anderson on February 28, 2010, 09:57:21 PM
Just looked at Pat's projected bracket and it made me reach up and loosen my collar.  He's got it as another trip to Thomas More with Franklin and Maryville(TN).  If DePauw gets out of there, they're in a real struggle with what's likely to be IWU, Hope, & Carthage.  Yikes. 

I'll spend my evening hoping the NCAA finds it in their hearts to be a little kinder than that tomorrow.
Think I'd wait until tomorrow before I'd assume this is your course.  Congratulations to DePauw on an impressive demonstration of team basketball this weekend.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on March 01, 2010, 12:13:33 AM
Well sure, but the thing is, I'm a little uneasy about that projection because I agree with it.  Like I said a couple days ago, there are just too many good teams around DePauw for them to host.  As I've also said over the past couple of weeks, DePauw just wasn't quite good enough in one of the toughest geographic sections of the country to have a favorable draw.  I don't expect a good draw.  I do expect to be in the same part of the bracket with the TMC's, IWU's, & Hope's of the world and I don't expect them to come to the Neal Fieldhouse.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on March 01, 2010, 01:35:36 PM
Sad to say I was correct.

The Old Gold are making their first ever trip to the DeVos Fieldhouse.  Lakeland in Round 1, and if they get out of that, they'll have Hope on their home floor.  That's a menacing proposition, right there.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 01, 2010, 05:18:15 PM
Here are the stats for Lakeland:

http://northernac.org/sports/basketball_women/statistics/2009-10/lc.html
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on March 01, 2010, 09:47:01 PM
I like that Lakeland match-up in the first round.  Ought to be a good one.  A pair of teams who are on a bigtime roll after some early losses.  As I said, the winner won't have much to look foward to with Hope in the second round.

Although, it appears the Hope fans are already looking ahead to IWU.  Perhaps their team will make the same grave error.  Either that or Hope isn't worried about DePauw because their officials won't let heathens like DePauw University into their G-rated, holier-than-thou gymnasium.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on March 02, 2010, 07:57:02 AM
DePauw indeed got a tough draw for the 2nd round if they get past Lakeland which I predict they will on Friday.  Hope that the Tigers can find a way to move on beyond the weekend. Good luck!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 20, 2010, 12:12:47 PM
Southwestern Women's BB coach Ruder has stepped down (http://www.scacsports.com/sports/wbkb/2009-10/releases/ruder_steps_down).  A search for her replacement is underway.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on May 05, 2010, 05:30:07 PM
Millsaps has hired former Hendrix coach Chuck Winkelman as the new women's basketball head coach.  Link to story:

http://www.gomajors.com/news/2010/5/5/GEN_0505101206.aspx
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on May 19, 2010, 11:00:08 AM
This from last week:

BRINKOETER RETURNS TO HELM OF WOMEN'S BASKETBALL PROGRAM (http://southwesternpirates.com/sports/w-baskbl/2010-11/releases/20100513bu3o59)

Kerri Brinkoeter is no stranger to Southwestern University as she is a 1995 graduate and guided the team for three seasons, 2002-2005. During her previous stint she compiled a 40-38 record and .513 winning percentage while guiding the Pirates to two conference tournament berths and a fifth place finish in the 2003-2004 season.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on June 10, 2010, 01:21:14 PM
I doubt too many of the teams remaining in the SCAC are sorry to see DPU's dominant program head to the NCAC after the upcoming season.   The question is will anyone step up or will it just go back to being like softball where teams (other than DePauw, cough cough) aren't terribly competitive outside of league play?  Hopefully the former.   
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 10, 2010, 02:37:15 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on June 10, 2010, 01:21:14 PM
I doubt too many of the teams remaining in the SCAC are sorry to see DPU's dominant program head to the NCAC after the upcoming season.   The question is will anyone step up or will it just go back to being like softball where teams (other than DePauw, cough cough) aren't terribly competitive outside of league play?  Hopefully the former.   
I think that BSC, AC, TU and Southwestern can bring their levels up a notch.

OU was there a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on June 12, 2010, 12:11:21 PM
Here's an open invitation to all DePauw posters and lurkers to come join me over at the NCAC women's hoops board as we transition the Tigers into the NCAC.  My board is kind of a one-man band these past several years; I try to keep tabs on all 9 NCAC programs and will start watching DPU this season.  It'll be no surprise to anyone that DPU will be heavy favorites the minute they start NCAC action, but I hope you'll join me to discuss it. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on June 12, 2010, 12:58:19 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on June 12, 2010, 12:11:21 PM
Here's an open invitation to all DePauw posters and lurkers to come join me over at the NCAC women's hoops board as we transition the Tigers into the NCAC.  My board is kind of a one-man band these past several years; I try to keep tabs on all 9 NCAC programs and will start watching DPU this season.  It'll be no surprise to anyone that DPU will be heavy favorites the minute they start NCAC action, but I hope you'll join me to discuss it. 

Wes Anderson's been about the only DPU poster ... the SCAC women's BB board is not a whole lot more active than your NCAC board.  Enjoy watching them - they have a great program.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 12, 2010, 05:16:49 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on June 12, 2010, 12:11:21 PM
Here's an open invitation to all DePauw posters and lurkers to come join me over at the NCAC women's hoops board as we transition the Tigers into the NCAC.  My board is kind of a one-man band these past several years; I try to keep tabs on all 9 NCAC programs and will start watching DPU this season.  It'll be no surprise to anyone that DPU will be heavy favorites the minute they start NCAC action, but I hope you'll join me to discuss it.  

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Only the NCAC has fewer than half of the page views and about a third of the replies as the SCAC.   :-\
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 12, 2010, 05:30:23 PM
IMHO, the loss of DPU's  (an in-region foe for SCAC members TU, AC, Southwestern, Hendrix and Colorado College) OWP and OOWP only isolates the SCAC-West and the ASC even more.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on June 14, 2010, 10:07:11 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on June 12, 2010, 05:16:49 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on June 12, 2010, 12:11:21 PM
Here's an open invitation to all DePauw posters and lurkers to come join me over at the NCAC women's hoops board as we transition the Tigers into the NCAC.  My board is kind of a one-man band these past several years; I try to keep tabs on all 9 NCAC programs and will start watching DPU this season.  It'll be no surprise to anyone that DPU will be heavy favorites the minute they start NCAC action, but I hope you'll join me to discuss it.  

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SCAC1440110128

Only the NCAC has fewer than half of the page views and about a third of the replies as the SCAC.   :-\

Having two national champions in the conference will do that, tho I think Trinity's championship predated this rev of the board software.  And besides, you and I probably account for a third of the posts.   ;)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerbacker on August 31, 2010, 11:40:02 AM
I know its early but does anyone have any info on new recruits or transfers for this year, who should be in the mix for the conference championship, or just anything about this years teams
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on October 16, 2010, 01:56:22 PM
tigerbacker, even now may be too early for anyone to post much about the upcoming season.  Millsaps was 1-24 last year and 1-15 in the SCAC.  Predicting an improvement for this year isn't going out on a limb very far, but I'll predict that they bounce back to somewhere near the middle of the SCAC.  That would be quite a jump.

Maybe it's hope that fuels my optimism more that concrete knowledge, but my hope is based on two things:

---A new coaching staff.  While I like Coach Bolton and Coach Reed quite a bit, things just never got untracked during their tenure.  The new head coach Chuck Winkelman had a very successful stint at Hendrix College from 1995-2004 and hopefully he will bring that same success to Millsaps.  His former player and new Millsaps assistant coach Jerrie Cooper also brings a very impressive resume to the Millsaps program.

---There is a lot of talent to work with from last year's team.  In 2009-10 Millsaps played the last half of the season with a 9 player roster, 8 freshmen and a 1st year JC transfer.  I believe most of those players are back and Janice Okeke should be back after sitting out all of last year with a knee injury.  Throw in a few newcomers and this could be a very good team, especially if some of those newcomers have a decent 3-point shot.  

It should be a very interesting year at Millsaps and I'd love to see the team get back to a winning season.  That would be quite an accomplishment since the last winning season at Millsaps was in 1996-97.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerbacker on October 29, 2010, 08:30:11 AM
I see that scrimmages and exhibitions start next week, Trinity goes to Texas ouch, i think the tiger guards with Hubenak and Marzella should be OK but inside it might get a little ugly, who else is in action next week
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on November 07, 2010, 10:05:38 AM
Let's hope to see posters weigh in on their respective SCAC teams as the season is about to begin. Will DePauw win big in their final SCAC campaign?  Who is looking tough in the West? 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: DPU3619 on November 08, 2010, 02:45:20 PM
Quote from: pbrooks3 on November 07, 2010, 10:05:38 AM
Let's hope to see posters weigh in on their respective SCAC teams as the season is about to begin. Will DePauw win big in their final SCAC campaign?  Who is looking tough in the West? 

We'll find out early about what DePauw's working with.  Illinois Wesleyan & Wash U are both at the Neal Fieldhouse right out of the gate in two weeks.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on November 15, 2010, 07:50:17 PM
Lady Colonels open on the road with a 52-51 win @ Maryville.  Maggie Prewitt gets the winner with 4 seconds remaining; she leads Centre with 19.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: UCA.HX.hoopsfan on November 16, 2010, 10:49:19 AM
Hendrix played my UCA Sugar Bears in a exhibition matchup last Friday. I was very impressed with their style of play and their effort. They have an exciting new coach and she has them playing really hard. Hendrix had the lead 4 times but the bears eventually pulled away.

I watched the season opener against ETBU last night and the first 30 minutes was the worst 30 minutes of basketball I've seen in Conway while. If the last 10 minutes are a sign of things to come, opponents better watch out. Byler is coming off of a broken foot and is still playing limited minutes but she lit it up from down town at the end of the game. Anna Roane is playing solid basketball, as are Sam Devlin and Jordan Henderson. Can't wait to watch Byler play fully healthy and see what this team can do this year.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scaccommish on November 16, 2010, 09:57:47 PM
As SCAC basketball teams tip-off their seasons this week, we are conducting the Hoops version of SCAC Media Days. Each day, Monday through Thursday, we will post interviews with the head coaches of the conference as well as an interview with one student-athlete from each conference team.

You can find the SCAC Media Days schedule and links to posted interviews here:
http://www.scacsports.com/sports/mbkb/2010-11/releases/scac_media_days (http://www.scacsports.com/sports/mbkb/2010-11/releases/scac_media_days)

Let us know what you think on our Facebook Fan Page:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Suwanee-GA/Southern-Collegiate-Athletic-Conference/69306693723 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Suwanee-GA/Southern-Collegiate-Athletic-Conference/69306693723)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on November 17, 2010, 11:13:35 PM
Quote from: UCA.HX.hoopsfan on November 16, 2010, 10:49:19 AM
Hendrix played my UCA Sugar Bears in a exhibition matchup last Friday. I was very impressed with their style of play and their effort. They have an exciting new coach and she has them playing really hard. Hendrix had the lead 4 times but the bears eventually pulled away.

I watched the season opener against ETBU last night and the first 30 minutes was the worst 30 minutes of basketball I've seen in Conway while. If the last 10 minutes are a sign of things to come, opponents better watch out. Byler is coming off of a broken foot and is still playing limited minutes but she lit it up from down town at the end of the game. Anna Roane is playing solid basketball, as are Sam Devlin and Jordan Henderson. Can't wait to watch Byler play fully healthy and see what this team can do this year.
I completely forgot that Christina Byler was back.  Why I thought she was a senior last year I just don't know!  Wonderful player and I agree when she is healthy it's a pleasure to watch her play the game of basketball.  Hope she gets back to full strength quickly.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Blaster on November 18, 2010, 12:08:24 AM
I hadn't heard that DPW was leaving the SCAC.  That will be a big hole in quality.  They were a long trip but one worth the drive.  Any idea on who may fill their spot in the SCAC?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 18, 2010, 09:41:17 AM
Quote from: Blaster on November 18, 2010, 12:08:24 AM
I hadn't heard that DPW was leaving the SCAC.  That will be a big hole in quality.  They were a long trip but one worth the drive.  Any idea on who may fill their spot in the SCAC?
University of Dallas

D3Hoops story (http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2010/09/dallas-to-join-scac)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Blaster on November 18, 2010, 05:58:39 PM
Thanks.  I had heard Dallas was joining but thought Colorado was leaving due to the distance.  Dallas is certainly easier travel than Indiana (for some I guess).  The SCAC has done a nice job of managing its conference.  I am excited the bball season is underway.  Playing D1 teams early is rough but it also provides a good measuring stick. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Blaster on November 19, 2010, 11:42:06 PM
HX drops a game by 2 pts thanks to a lot of turnovers and missed free throws.  HX juniors still trying to adapt to the system of the new coach.  This game should have been an easy win but I believe HX has the talent to win the conference division. 

Westminister played today as well and their fast break and press was very impressive.  Great point guard. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on November 21, 2010, 12:03:17 AM
Lady Colonels split a pair of games in their tournament this weekend. Howard Payne came away with 10-point victory over Centre on Friday evening. Saturday the ladies defeated Berry College 73-60. Maggie Pruitt scored 23 against Berry while junior post-player, Lauren Huter recorded a double-double - points & rebounds.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 21, 2010, 03:34:19 AM
Quote from: Blaster on November 18, 2010, 05:58:39 PM
Thanks.  I had heard Dallas was joining but thought Colorado was leaving due to the distance.  Dallas is certainly easier travel than Indiana (for some I guess).  The SCAC has done a nice job of managing its conference.  I am excited the bball season is underway.  Playing D1 teams early is rough but it also provides a good measuring stick. 
Colorado College leaving the SCAC?

That rumor has not surfaced.

Colorado College could move to D-II (Rocky Mountain AC) and cure some travel budget and missed classtime issues and keep Men's Ice Hockey and Women's Soccer.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on November 23, 2010, 10:39:09 PM
Lady Colonels clicked on all cylinders tonight in a homecourt win over College of Mt. St. Joseph 75-44.  Maggie Prewitt scored 17 in leading a balanced attack as Centre jumped out to a 21-point 1st half lead and never looked back. The Ladies are 3-1 going into the Thanksgiving break.

Happy Thanksgiving!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Blaster on November 25, 2010, 01:14:46 AM
CC leaving SCAC must have been a misunderstanding from a conversation I heard about a team leaving.  I thought they were talking about CC because I didn't think DePauw would leave.  I hate to see them go.  HX heads into the break with a nice win.  This team went 20-5 last year and went to Italy this summer and beat 3 of 4 regional all star teams that Villanova had went 2-2 the week before.  They have good talent but are really struggling to execute the new coach's system.  Coach Cummins made some personnel changes to fit her system and it looked more in sync.  They enter the break at 2-3 but should be 5-0.  It will be interesting to see if they continue good play after the Thanksgiving break.  I think the Coach has them on the right track but time will tell.  Happy Thanksgiving.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerbacker on November 30, 2010, 02:15:57 PM
What is going on with Trinity, 1 win and 4 losses to date, i haven't seen Goodell or Marzella in the box scores are they hurt or not playing, i am really surprised at their losses to teams that they really should beat, any info please
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SCACwatcher on November 30, 2010, 07:33:20 PM
Quote from: tigerbacker on November 30, 2010, 02:15:57 PM
What is going on with Trinity, 1 win and 4 losses to date, i haven't seen Goodell or Marzella in the box scores are they hurt or not playing, i am really surprised at their losses to teams that they really should beat, any info please
Or Hovland.... ??? They could have used her height this last road trip....
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerbacker on December 01, 2010, 10:47:02 AM
Looking at the Trinity website Hovland is on the roster but Goodell and Marzella are not, anybody know what happened, did they leave school, transfer, quit, get kicked off the team what??????
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SCACwatcher on December 01, 2010, 05:58:42 PM
Some of Trinity's very best talent has not been on the bench which includes Goodell, Marzella and a very capable post Hovland. I assume they quit. Only one senior graduated from the program each of the last two years. Good talent remains but loss of good players and poor stewardship will be hard to overcome.
I wish Coach Sattelle the best and hope to see him back soon.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: lcwildcatfan on December 01, 2010, 07:49:23 PM
Please keep Coach Janice Joseph-Richard's family in your prayers! She passed away not long ago with her battle with cancer! She was a very dear friend of mine! She leaves a true legacy of courage and perseverance behind! She taught me to be a believer and never give up! May God comfort her family! Love
you Coach Richard! <>< LADY WILDCCAT FOREVER!!!!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on December 01, 2010, 09:19:49 PM
Quote from: lcwildcatfan on December 01, 2010, 07:49:23 PM
Please keep Coach Janice Joseph-Richard's family in your prayers! She passed away not long ago with her battle with cancer! She was a very dear friend of mine! She leaves a true legacy of courage and perseverance behind! She taught me to be a believer and never give up! May God comfort her family! Love
you Coach Richard! <>< LADY WILDCCAT FOREVER!!!!
Rest in peace Coach. Thank you for sharing this information with SCAC fans.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 02, 2010, 03:32:53 PM
I had the honor of interview/talking with Coach Janie Joseph-Richard on Hoopsville and came away knowing her team was better in her presence, if not everyone that came in contact with her. I was very inspired by her and what she stood for not only in fighting cancer but also someone who commanded a lot of respect in part because of her dedication to coaching and trying to improve her alma mater. My hats off to her and my deepest condolences to her family, her team, and her college.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on December 03, 2010, 07:38:58 PM
The Ladies of Centre open the SCAC schedule with a homecourt win against Rhodes 65-49. Chelsea Benham led the Colonels with 12 points & 9 rebounds. Angela Tronzo pulled down 10 boards all in the opening stanza. Rhodes' Lakeya McGill tallied 20 to lead the Lynx.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on December 03, 2010, 07:46:16 PM
Peeked in on Trinity-Southwestern. SU leads by 10 late in the 1st half. DePauw trounced BSU.

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on December 03, 2010, 08:44:57 PM
Millsaps women's team leading SCAC West!!!

Okay, maybe they will be tied with a couple of teams at the end of the day, but Millsaps took their SCAC opener 62-39 over Austin College despite only having 7 players dressed out for the game.  Since they have only been dressing out 8 per game, it didn't change the rotation too much to be down to 7. 

Keeping in mind that the first and only Millsaps win last year came on the last weekend of the season, you have to be impressed with the Majors 3-3 start.  The other two victories were 53-49 over the U. of Dallas and 61-49 over Huntingdon.  The three losses have been close ones, falling in a 69-66 game to Dillard University, 73-65 to MS College, and 63-61 to Rust.

Coach Winkelman, Coach Cooper, and the Millsaps players certainly seem to have the program going in the right direction.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on December 05, 2010, 02:47:19 PM
Millsaps continues to lead the SCAC West, moving to 2-0 with a 56-43 win over Colorado College this afternoon.  I'm not predicting a SCAC Championship for the team, but 2-0 is a refreshing start for a program that has been 1-15, 5-10, 4-11, and 1-13 in conference play over the last 4 seasons.

With only 7 players dressing out on Friday and 8 dressing out today, depth is clearly a problem this season.  The good news is that those players dressing out are talented and young, with a roster made up of 2 freshmen, 6 sophomores, and a junior who had a medical redshirt last year.  I know that adds up to 9 players--there's a sophomore who must be injured since she hasn't dressed out all year.  This core group of players will get a tremendous amount of experience this year and will be a force to be reckoned with over the next couple of years.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on December 05, 2010, 02:50:58 PM
Lady Colonels struggled in losing to Birmingham Southern 70-57. Poor shooting continues to haunt the team in its key games as Centre falls to 4-3, and 1-1 in conference play.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: UCA.HX.hoopsfan on December 05, 2010, 06:17:24 PM
Hendrix women drop to 1-1 in conference play with a 58-52 loss at home to Austin College. Byler lead the warriors with 16 on 5-10 shooting (2-4 from 3) and 8 boards. Only played 18 minutes coming off a bout of pneumonia. She didn't look like herself. Katy Ashley-Pauley finished with 12 and Caty Hensy finished with 9. Austin shot 52.6% from 3 in the first half which lead to a halftime score of 38-19. Hendrix is a very talented team but can't seem to find any sort of a rhythm.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on December 20, 2010, 01:43:58 PM
Good weekend going into Christmas break for the Centre Girls with 2 wins at the Transy Tournament in Lexington over Baldwin-Wallace & Muskingum. Colonels upped their record to 7-3.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on December 31, 2010, 04:55:37 PM
Taking in Oglethorpe @ Rhodes. OU is in control at the half 42-31. Rhodes is playing with a skinny bench - 7 players in uniform. Oglethorpe runs its offensive sets far smoother than Rhodes & scores from behind the arc with ease -  7 for 11 so far.
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Post by: pbrooks3 on December 31, 2010, 05:43:06 PM
Oglethorpe prevails 81-74.  Rhodes played hard making it competitive, but simply couldn't get key stops and prevent 3's. Rhodes' Bell had 27 and the frosh post player Handleman scored 20 & probably had a dozen rebounds.  Haven't seen a SCAC team yet that'll give DePauw a real game. 
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Post by: UCA.HX.hoopsfan on December 31, 2010, 08:33:58 PM
Hendrix got killed last night at Mississippi College.  Turnovers are absolutely ridiculous.  They will look to rebound Sunday against the University of Dallas before heading in to what appears to be a key match-up with Southwestern.  Byler didn't play against MC-radio announcer said due to injury...that could affect the rest of the season for Hendrix; only time will tell.  The winner of the HC/SU game will either share or maintain first place in the west.  Could be interesting.  I couldn't agree more with you pbrooks.  It doesn't look like anyone will give DePauw a run for their money, even if DePauw has a rare horrible game. 
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Post by: scaccommish on January 07, 2011, 04:44:49 PM
Oglethorpe-DePauw Basketball Friday Games Postponed Following Tragic Death

SUWANEE, Ga. - After learning of the death of student body leader Erik Downes, Oglethorpe University has postponed tonight's previously scheduled basketball games against DePauw University. The games originally scheduled to be played at 6:00 and 8:00 p.m. tonight will now be played at noon (women's) and 2:00 p.m. (men's) tomorrow (Saturday, January 8).

http://www.scacsports.com/sports/mbkb/2010-11/releases/depauw_oglethorpe_postponed
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Post by: pbrooks3 on January 09, 2011, 08:49:25 PM
Good weekend for Centre women in taking two wins on the road at Sewanee and Oglethorpe.
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Post by: pbrooks3 on January 21, 2011, 08:07:08 PM
Anyone know the actual score of the Southwestern-Centre game.  Live Stats stopped functioning with 11:15 to go in the 1st half with Southwestern ahead 22-13.  Video is running fine but they never show us the scoreboard!
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Post by: pbrooks3 on January 21, 2011, 08:45:10 PM
Fortunately the cameraman focused the video on the scoreboard on late timeouts.  Southwestern prevails in a tight game by making free throws when they counted 77-73. Didn't appear to this observer that Centre moved the ball effectively on the low block; most of the Lady Colonels points seemed to come from the perimeter and beyond the 3-point line.  Lady Pirates were more effective closer to the basket and probably had a substantial advantage on free throw opportunities to Centre.  Southwestern moves to 13-4 (5-3 in the conference) and Centre falls to 11-6 (5-3 in conference).
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Post by: pbrooks3 on January 28, 2011, 09:50:50 PM
Led by Maggie Pruett's 26 points, Centre won 80-57 over Austin College tonight @ home. Lauren Huter contributed a double-double in points & rebounds while 2 other Lady Colonels players scored in double figures. Centre is now 13-6; 6-3 in the SCAC.
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Post by: tarheelfan on January 29, 2011, 12:57:18 AM
Crazy race going on in the West.  All 6 teams within one game of the leader with five having the same conference record.  With the three best and possibly the three worst teams making up the East, a very intriguing playoff push could be in store out West.
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Post by: Ron Boerger on January 30, 2011, 08:22:26 PM
Quote from: tarheelfan on January 29, 2011, 12:57:18 AM
Crazy race going on in the West.  All 6 teams within one game of the leader with five having the same conference record.  With the three best and possibly the three worst teams making up the East, a very intriguing playoff push could be in store out West.

Trinity is playing their best ball of the season with the win at B-SC last night, the upset of DePauw at home last weekend, and six wins in their last seven.   The upcoming games between Millsaps/Hendrix against Southwestern/Trinity should make for an interesting couple of days ...
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 02, 2011, 03:28:16 PM
First Regional Rankings: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/category/ncaa-stuff/regional-rankings/
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 04, 2011, 07:44:42 PM
Big win for Rhodes on the road tonight at Oglethorpe 59-53 giving them 2 conference wins in a row.  Sherwil Bell has her 2nd consecutive big game scoring 27 and pulling down 13 rebounds.  Both OU and Rhodes are now 3-8 in conference play.
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Post by: frank_ezelle on February 05, 2011, 10:43:53 AM
With their 79-69 win over Trinity last night, Millsaps swept the Tigers for the first time since the 1995-96 season.  Last night Millsaps had 7 players dressed out (only 6 played). I believe 8 has been the most dressed out this season.  This handful of players and Coach Winkelman and Coach Cooper have really turned the program around after the 1-24 season in 2009-10.

Janice Okeke almost made the 20/20 club with 19 rebounds and 18 points  last night.  Kristin Salmon led the scoring with 25 and added 7 rebounds.  Shante Morton and Shatoya White each scored 15.  As a junior, Okeke is the oldest player on the team and last year was a medical redshirt year for her.  This current group of players are a great necleus for a rebuilding program that could really do special things over the next few years.

Link to box score:  http://www.gomajors.com/custompages/WBB/2010-11/mcw11-20.htm

Link to story:  http://gomajors.com/news/2011/2/4/WBB_0204115707.aspx
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Post by: pbrooks3 on February 05, 2011, 12:07:47 PM
Big tussle today with Centre hosting league leader DePauw. Centre has struggled in the past in matching up with the generally more physical DePauw teams. This one should follow suit. For the Colonels to emerge victorious they'll need improved post play and some tenacity & drive to stop 2nd chance opportunities on the DePauw offensive end. Centre needs to make some open perimeter shots, too. It's a shame that Amanda Stovall is out with an injury for Centre because this is a game she would relish in a big way. Perhaps she can charge up her teammates from the sidelines today to play their hearts out!  It'll take a maximum effort & a few breaks for the Lady Colonels to defeat the Tigers.
   
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Post by: pbrooks3 on February 05, 2011, 02:37:32 PM
DePauw emerges victorious with a solid road win 67-54. DePauw as usual dominated the boards and had 2 players finish with double-doubles. Credit to Centre who shot the ball well, but got clobbered by 2nd chance points today. 
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Post by: pbrooks3 on February 12, 2011, 05:50:57 PM
Rhodes Ladies are riding a nice streak - they picked up their 4th league win in a row this afternoon @ home against Birmingham Southern 75-71.  Impressive win for a team playing 7-8 players deep. Bell and Womack shined but the others on the Lynx squad played well too. Hand it to LaKeya McGill who converted 4 free throws in the stretch to help Rhodes maintain a 2-possession lead.
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Post by: UDontKnowMe on February 13, 2011, 11:17:18 PM
Hendrix women also on 8 game win streak. 7 consecutive conference wins. Clinched 1 seed from west.
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Post by: Ralph Turner on February 15, 2011, 08:42:31 AM
Quote from: UDontKnowMe on February 13, 2011, 11:17:18 PM
Hendrix women also on 8 game win streak. 7 consecutive conference wins. Clinched 1 seed from west.

Hello, U

What has changed about Hendrix from the first half of the season?

They had a unimpressive home win over a weak ETBU team, a loss to an average UOzarks team and another loss to UDallas.  Now they have rollled off a nice win streak.

Welcome to the boards and thanks for the response.
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Post by: Ron Boerger on February 15, 2011, 12:29:27 PM
SCAC women's play isn't terribly competitive, Ralph, especially after you get past DPU and to a lesser extent Centre.   Hendrix' best W during the streak is against a B-SC team that's mediocre on the road (4-7).   Their last three home wins have been by 4 vs Millsaps, 1 against UDallas, 3 vs. Trinity, (all .500-ish teams); only 2 of the 8 were on the road.    Contrast that with the three prior games, all road, all losses against DPU, Centre, Trinity, and only one was close.  

They're the best in the West, but the power is in the East.
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Post by: pbrooks3 on February 15, 2011, 06:09:03 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 15, 2011, 12:29:27 PM
SCAC women's play isn't terribly competitive, Ralph, especially after you get past DPU and to a lesser extent Centre.   Hendrix' best W during the streak is against a B-SC team that's mediocre on the road (4-7).   Their last three home wins have been by 4 vs Millsaps, 1 against UDallas, 3 vs. Trinity, (all .500-ish teams); only 2 of the 8 were on the road.    Contrast that with the three prior games, all road, all losses against DPU, Centre, Trinity, and only one was close.  

They're the best in the West, but the power is in the East.
Absolutely agree about SCAC Womens B-Ball this season.  There's a huge drop-off from DePauw to the rest of the conference.  Can't see anyone giving them much of a game in the league tournament.

My point on Rhodes was not intended to diminish the earlier comment about Hendrix's streak.  Rhodes was down & out completely until they went on this late-season winning streak - they're now going to make the tournament.  Even though Rhodes doesn't have a great team, I've been impressed with how they've hung together.  They've got virtually no bench, suiting up no more than 7 or 8 players a night. 
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Post by: UDontKnowMe on February 15, 2011, 11:07:15 PM
They may be close wins but they're buckling down and getting it done...a lot better than all those losses to start the year.  They're starting to play together and shoot the 3 ball pretty well.  Getting used to playing with the new coach.  You never know who is going to go off.  Byler only had 8 last game (senior night) but the other senior, Wyvonne Hawkins, went off for 20.  Take an ugly win over a loss at this point in the season.  If they play well, I honestly think they could play with DePauw. Stayed with them for about 30 min at DePauw earlier this year.  Lost at Centre by 1pt and played horribly.  Hope they continue to pull off wins throughout the tournament.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 16, 2011, 03:36:19 PM
Week 3 Regional Rankings are out: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2011/02/16/ncaa-2011-regional-rankings-week-3/
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tarheelfan on February 17, 2011, 09:15:45 PM
The best three teams in the SCAC are in the east.  One of those three will be the conference tournament champion, no doubt.
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Post by: frank_ezelle on February 18, 2011, 08:49:11 PM
A big win for the Millsaps Lady Majors this evening as they take a 58-54 road win over Austin.  That's all they can do this evening towards getting into the SCAC Tournament and now they hope for a Hendrix rally that would guarantee the Millsaps team a spot in the top 4 from the West.  Janice Okeke has been out the last two weeks and I'm not sure if she would be back for the tournament if Millsaps qualifies.

CC leads Hendrex 33-22 with the second half just getting under way:

http://www.coloradocollege.edu/webcasts/Athletics/wbasketball/xlive.htm
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Post by: frank_ezelle on February 18, 2011, 08:56:07 PM
I believe a Trinity loss this evening would also put Millsaps in.  Trinity is 8-7 and playing at Southwestern.  If Trinity falls to 8-8, then Millsaps would do no worse than a two-way or three-way tie at 8-8 and Millsaps would hold the tiebreaker in those situations.

http://www.trinity.edu/departments/athletics/WBasketball/livestats/xlive.htm
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Post by: Ron Boerger on February 18, 2011, 10:27:20 PM
Trinity defeated Southwestern 80-72 tonight.
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Post by: pbrooks3 on February 19, 2011, 12:35:32 AM
Centre got a hard-earned victory tonight over a short-benched scrappy Rhodes crew 77-69.  Maggie Pruett led the Colonels with 27. Chelsea Benham chipped in with 17 points & 10 rebounds in helping the Colonels. Rhodes got balanced scoring from their starters.  One of the difference-makers for Centre in this one was Jane Goatley who hit two huge 3-pointers midway through the 2nd half to catapult the team into a lead & build momentum for them to pull out the win.
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Post by: UDontKnowMe on February 19, 2011, 07:12:49 AM
HX got beat at Colorado. Couldn't defend. Couldn't box out. Refs were questionable but HX didn't deserve to win, regardless. I had hoped that what had been said about the HX win streak playing out over home games wouldn't have held true last night, but it did. The sad part is no one has seen HX play 40min of their best basketball. They still haven't peaked yet.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 19, 2011, 09:02:31 AM
Quote from: UDontKnowMe on February 19, 2011, 07:12:49 AM
HX got beat at Colorado. Couldn't defend. Couldn't box out. Refs were questionable but HX didn't deserve to win, regardless. I had hoped that what had been said about the HX win streak playing out over home games wouldn't have held true last night, but it did. The sad part is no one has seen HX play 40min of their best basketball. They still haven't peaked yet.

Not so bad taking a loss on top of a big winning streak @ this time of the season.   Colorado is a tough place to play and if the Warriors can finish with a win @ Austin, they'll be in a good frame of mind heading to the tournament.  Still think it'll be miraculous if anyone can topple DePauw.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on February 20, 2011, 12:11:39 AM
James Hill who is part of the webcast production at Millsaps put together a nice 1 minute promotional video for the upcoming SCAC Tournament at Millsaps:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rle_IQ1vhV4

I believe that the Millsaps women have to win at Colorado to make the SCAC Tournament.  A win would put Millsaps as the #2 seed, being tied with Trinity and holding the tiebreaker over them.  A loss would put Millsaps, Southwestern, and Colorado all tied at 8-8.  That loss would drop Millsaps to 1-3 against the other two, Colorado would be 2-2 having split with both teams, and Southwestern would get the third seed since they are 3-1 in games against Millsaps and Colorado.
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Post by: pbrooks3 on February 20, 2011, 03:02:11 PM
Birmingham Southern defeats Centre in OT 84-81.  BSU turned the trick on Centre this year.

Will be looking for some insights on the upcoming tournament following today's games.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on February 20, 2011, 03:25:47 PM
Millsaps was down by about 7 at Colorado with around 10 to play.  Have rallied and now lead 54-52 with 5:16 to play. 

Millsaps has been playing the last two weeks without Janice Okeke, the SCAC leading rebounder.  They recruited a couple of volleyball players about 3 weeks ago just to have enough to compete.  It's a shame that these players weren't on the team from the start--they are both pretty good.

http://www.coloradocollege.edu/webcasts/Athletics/wbasketball/xlive.htm
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Post by: frank_ezelle on February 20, 2011, 03:39:49 PM
Millsaps loses 64-56 which knocks them out of the SCAC Tournament by my calculations.  A disappointing end to a great season in regards to how much improvement the team made over last year.  While the loss of Okeke for the final 3 SCAC games almost assuredly kept Millsaps from a 2nd seed or possibly a 1st seed in the West, it also is amazing that they were able to avoid significant injuries for so much of the season.

I look forward to what this group can do next season when pair with a good class of recruits.
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Post by: UDontKnowMe on February 20, 2011, 06:41:00 PM
HX beat Austin by 14pts at Austin!!! A good win headed into the tournament. Get Oglethorpe in the first round!!!!!!! Then Centre/Southwestern in the 2nd. Anticipate DePauw in the finals. Think Hendrix has a shot to beat them?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tarheelfan on February 20, 2011, 06:47:44 PM
Quote from: UDontKnowMe on February 20, 2011, 06:41:00 PM
HX beat Austin by 14pts at Austin!!! A good win headed into the tournament. Get Oglethorpe in the first round!!!!!!! Then Centre/Southwestern in the 2nd. Anticipate DePauw in the finals. Think Hendrix has a shot to beat them?

It will be tough for them to win three games in consecutive days away from Conway.  Especially when the team that would await them in the finals is Depauw.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 23, 2011, 04:29:38 PM
Final Regional Rankings before Selection Sunday: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/category/ncaa-stuff/regional-rankings/
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 26, 2011, 06:03:39 PM
Just witnessed a well-coached DePauw team take out Trinity in the 2nd round. Trinity played a strong 1st half, but was no match for the disciplined DePauw crew in the final half. Hendrix will take its shot at Goliath in the final tomorrow. My prediction - DePauw by 18.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: UDontKnowMe on February 27, 2011, 04:24:57 PM
DePauw by 9. Congrats to DePauw and I know they're good competition but I anticipate HX winning conference easily.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tarheelfan on February 27, 2011, 08:48:35 PM
Quote from: UDontKnowMe on February 27, 2011, 04:24:57 PM
DePauw by 9. Congrats to DePauw and I know they're good competition but I anticipate HX winning conference easily.
Next year?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: UDontKnowMe on February 28, 2011, 05:09:32 PM
Yep!!
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Post by: tarheelfan on March 06, 2011, 12:56:23 AM
I don't see that happening without Byler and Hawkins
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Post by: d3hendrixpop50 on August 09, 2011, 03:21:45 AM
2011-2012 Hendrix College Women's Basketball will win West again and possibly the SCAC with Depaux gone.

New Freshman Recruits will push starters and will be a great addition on defense and rebounding
Deep Bench Already with great  outside shooters and FT Shooters
Coach Cummins is just getting her system in place - Great Coach
Added another assistant coach Taylor
Great Chemistry on Team
Alot of Experience with many Seniors on Team
Freshman Jamie Tate will likely Start - Rebounding numbers will increase

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Post by: d3hendrixpop50 on August 09, 2011, 12:04:18 PM
Sorry DePauw (Misspelled above) but not sorry they are no longer in SCAC.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: d3hendrixpop50 on August 30, 2011, 10:39:24 PM
Correction to above....Coach Taylor is NOT an added assistant coach for Hendrix College

Hendrix will be better than people think....the recruiting class of Coach Cummins 5 New hard working talented Freshmen will
mesh well with the already Strong Senior Leadership on the team. Chemistry is very important in Women's Basketball and Hendrix has it.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: d3hendrixpop50 on September 15, 2011, 12:16:28 AM
I Believe Centre in the East Division might be a team to contend with this year in the SCAC.....

This is from reviewing each teams stats and seeing who has a 3 prong attack....in other words 3 players on the court at the same time that can all score.....I believe Centre and Hendrix will both have this.....Anybody know much about Birmingham Southern and what they look like prior to this season starting???
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Post by: d3hendrixpop50 on October 26, 2011, 01:43:07 PM
To know just how good Hendrix College is......Watch the scores of these games

November 26th they play Washington University (Mo) Ranked #2 Preseason
November 27th they play Illinois Wesleyan Ranked #4 Preseason or Depauw Ranked #20

if Hendrix can stay within 10 points of either of these teams then they deserve some respect in the SCAC.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on October 28, 2011, 04:33:02 PM
  If you like the experience, you can do it again next year! As of Sep, they were looking for a team to play in next year's tourney(and absorb,probably, 2 losses). I was wondering who was going to volunteer.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 28, 2011, 09:32:34 PM
Quote from: d3hendrixpop50 on October 26, 2011, 01:43:07 PM
To know just how good Hendrix College is......Watch the scores of these games

November 26th they play Washington University (Mo) Ranked #2 Preseason
November 27th they play Illinois Wesleyan Ranked #4 Preseason or Depauw Ranked #20

if Hendrix can stay within 10 points of either of these teams then they deserve some respect in the SCAC.

Quote from: ronk on October 28, 2011, 04:33:02 PM
  If you like the experience, you can do it again next year! As of Sep, they were looking for a team to play in next year's tourney(and absorb,probably, 2 losses). I was wondering who was going to volunteer.

The only in-region game for Hendrix among the three foes is DePauw.
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Post by: pbrooks3 on November 15, 2011, 08:31:35 PM
Nice opening for the Lady Colonels campaign tonight at home as Centre defeats Maryville behind 24 from senior guard Maggie Prewitt.  :)

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on November 19, 2011, 12:55:20 AM
Millsaps scores 57 points in the first half enroute to a 99-85 victory over NAIA Blue Mountain College.  Lady Majors have 5 players in double figures including 4 freshmen.  Link to box score:  http://www.gomajors.com/boxscore.aspx?path=wbball&id=2133

Millsaps plays a tough Louisiana College team tomorrow afternoon.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: awadelewis on November 20, 2011, 10:10:25 AM
Sewanee sets NCAA record by going 24 for 56 beyond the 3-pt line and tie SCAC record for points scored in single game with 125-58 win over Judson College: http://goo.gl/X0E3K
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on November 22, 2011, 09:06:55 PM
Really strong performance for Centre tonight against highly touted Thomas More. The Lady Colonels fell in OT 80-79 and senior star, Maggie Prewitt sitting on the bench with 5 fouls after regulation.  Several other Colonels stepped up their games to give Thomas More a battle before losing at the end.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on December 03, 2011, 02:42:06 AM
It took some key plays by some Centre veterans tonight to defeat a spirited Millsaps team 66-61.  The game's outcome was in doubt nearly to the end when senior Maggie Prewitt salted it away for the Lady Colonels with 4 free throws.  Millsaps got solid post play and decent perimeter shooting to give Centre all they could possibly want in this one!
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Post by: pbrooks3 on December 04, 2011, 08:17:56 PM
Another road grinder this afternoon for Centre as they outlasted Rhodes 62-57 to wrap up a successful 2-0 weekend.  Paige Baechle led the Lady Colonels with 14.  Bridgett Winstead hit a huge 3-pointer for Centre late to get the team the lead and then she helped extend the lead with 2 big free throws.  Rhodes played well with balanced offense and good defensive ball pressure on Maggie Prewitt and the Centre guards. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tarheelfan on December 16, 2011, 06:53:15 PM
Quote from: d3hendrixpop50 on October 26, 2011, 01:43:07 PM
To know just how good Hendrix College is......Watch the scores of these games

November 26th they play Washington University (Mo) Ranked #2 Preseason
November 27th they play Illinois Wesleyan Ranked #4 Preseason or Depauw Ranked #20

if Hendrix can stay within 10 points of either of these teams then they deserve some respect in the SCAC.

Hendrix vs. Washington L 52-62
Hendrix vs. Illinois Wesleyan L 84-43

One good, one awful.  Jamie Tate will be a dominant force in the SCAC soon.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: d3hendrixpop50 on December 29, 2011, 05:17:35 AM
Hendrix has been up and down this season with no real leaders stepping up besides there sophmore Jamie Tate. They have lost alot of close games. These next couple of non conference games will be important to there overall season as they need WINS now to help confidence of team overall. The new freshman have played well and will get even some more confidence building the next couple of days.  Southwestern and Colorado and Ozarks should all have been wins but they don't have a real goto player at this point.  I believe Anna Roane and Katy Pauley will step up however and Jamie Tate and the rest of the freshman will continue to get better under Coach Cummins tough leadership. Just waiting for team to GEL and chemistry to finally provide Win momentum.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: d3hendrixpop50 on December 29, 2011, 05:20:25 AM
Lagrange and Berry non conference games will be BIG for warriors confidence going into the meat of the SCAC conference schedule from here on.
Depth will be building with these two games......so keep a close watch.....if wins.....both.......then WATCH OUT SCAC West.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bigboogars on January 02, 2012, 07:06:19 PM
Centre continues to play hard and roll along.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: d3hendrixpop50 on January 03, 2012, 01:46:38 AM
Centre definitely seems like the team to beat in SCAC......Hendrix dropped both the Lagrange and Berry games when both were winnable. Seems like they are having to rebuild some chemistry with different players on the floor. They seem to have potential to come back in last part of season if they can get some confidence by winning the next couple of definitely winnable games against Dallas and Austin College.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 14, 2012, 12:14:53 AM
Centre scores another tough road win in Colorado tonight. Maggie Prewitt led the team with 20 points.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 20, 2012, 09:54:17 PM
Centre triumphs over Southwestern easily tonight with Lady Colonels senior guard recording the ever rare triple-double - 14 points, 17 rebounds and 12 assists. Colonels remain undefeated in SCAC play.
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Post by: pbrooks3 on January 21, 2012, 07:54:39 PM
Centre wins its 9th league game tonight at home against Trinity 84-67. Chelsea Benham leads the way with 20 points; Lauren Huter records 12 rebounds; and Maggie Prewitt goes double-double tonight with 11 points and 13 assists. Colonels shot the ball at a 50% clip and dropped in 9 triples with Jane Goatley knocking down 4 3's and Allyson Burke scored 3 from behind the arc.  Lady Colonels are now 15-1; 9-0 in the SCAC.

A belated congratulations to Lauren Huter for joining Centre's 1,000 point club last night in the Colonels' win over Southwestern.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 27, 2012, 05:17:09 PM
I salute you, pbrooks, for basically keeping the SCAC threads alive for both the men and the women.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 27, 2012, 09:58:51 PM
Lady Colonels overcame a 2 point halftime deficit to pull out their 10th straight conference win tonight on the road at Austin 78-54. Chelsea Benham led the Centre effort with 18 points. Centre is now 16-1 on the season and undefeated in road play. Lady Colonels lace them up again Sunday against the University of Dallas.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 27, 2012, 10:23:24 PM
Good road win in OT tonight for Rhodes over Trinity. Frosh Sarah Johnson recorded a double-double with 10 rebounds and 20 points. The other Sarah (Womack) tallied 16 and Amy Handelman also recorded a double-double.  2 Lynx players fouled out but the girls hung tough in the late going to get the win after being deadlocked at 75-75 after 40 minutes.   The SCAC continues to lean eastward in terms of conference strength.
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Post by: jekelish on January 27, 2012, 10:57:30 PM
Man, Austin College fought tough but in the end, they just didn't have the depth to hang with Centre, especially when they went cold from the field. You've got to feel for the 'Roos this year, with three starters out for the year with injuries and leaning very, very heavily on a freshman point guard. Speaking of, and I'm biased, but despite the team's record I really, really hope coaches think long and hard about naming Christina Kime the Newcomer of the Year. She's just outstanding. Very, very good player.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 27, 2012, 11:32:10 PM
Centre was hot as a firecracker in the 2nd half tonight scoring the b-ball. It was good timing for them reaching deep to take control in an important road game.

The Lady Colonels' banner season to date includes another impressive stat - Centre is the #1 free throw shooting team in D3 through Thursday hitting them at an 80.8% clip. They actually improved on this figure by knocking down 11-12 tonight to raise their percentage to .813.   :)

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on January 28, 2012, 07:39:57 AM
Millsaps started off this year with a nice win over NAIA Blue Mountain and then got hammered by a very strong Louisiana College team (currently 15-2).  That huge loss (87-48) to LC was a case of a very experienced team overwhelming a freshman heavy roster, a situation that wasn't helped by Millsaps having Janice Okeke sitting on the bench with an injury.

The next lost came in game #5, a very disappointing but promising 66-61 home loss to Centre where Millsaps held the lead with less than a minute to play.  It was Okeke's first game of the season and she only contributed 6 points and 3 rebounds, but Millsaps made up for this loss on the inside by hitting 9 of 15 3-point shots.

Who would have thought at that time that now we would find Centre (16-1) and Millsaps (17-2) sitting at the top of the SCAC rankings?  Centre is no big surprise, but this is a Millsaps program that was 1-24 during the 2009-10 season and then made a coaching change late which basically eliminated recruiting for the 2010-11 season.  Things were so thin on the Millsaps bench last year that two volleyball players were recruited late in the year just to keep the roster in the upper single-digits.  Despite the lack of recruiting and lack of depth, Millsaps went 12-13 overall and 8-8 in the SCAC.  Maybe that rapid turnaround should have told us that a big season was coming in 2011-12.

Being a realist, I recognize that Millsaps being 17-2 and 11-0 away from home is partially a case of things going the right way in some close games.  During the 5 games from December 29 through January 8, Millsaps won by 4 at Huntingdon, 3 at Rhodes, and went into OT on the road at BSC and Oglethorpe.  Millsaps recently had a close 4 point home win over Colorado.  But even if the record was "only" 14-5 right now, what a remarkable turnaround that would be from where this team was just a couple of years ago.

All in all, it has been a great job done by Coach Chuck Winkelman, his assistant Jerri Cooper, and by the players on the team.  I look forward to seeing how the rest of the season unfolds and seeing how the Lady Majors do in this year's SCAC Tournament.  I also look forward to seeing how Millsaps will do when Coach Winkelman has a roster filled with 3 or 4 recruiting classes instead of just 1.  The present and the future look bright for Lady Majors baskeball.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 28, 2012, 11:06:56 AM
Quote from: frank_ezelle on January 28, 2012, 07:39:57 AM
Millsaps started off this year with a nice win over NAIA Blue Mountain and then got hammered by a very strong Louisiana College team (currently 15-2).  That huge loss (87-48) to LC was a case of a very experienced team overwhelming a freshman heavy roster, a situation that wasn't helped by Millsaps having Janice Okeke sitting on the bench with an injury.

The next lost came in game #5, a very disappointing but promising 66-61 home loss to Centre where Millsaps held the lead with less than a minute to play.  It was Okeke's first game of the season and she only contributed 6 points and 3 rebounds, but Millsaps made up for this loss on the inside by hitting 9 of 15 3-point shots.
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Who would have thought at that time that now we would find Centre (16-1) and Millsaps (17-2) sitting at the top of the SCAC rankings?  Centre is no big surprise, but this is a Millsaps program that was 1-24 during the 2009-10 season and then made a coaching change late which basically eliminated recruiting for the 2010-11 season.  Things were so thin on the Millsaps bench last year that two volleyball players were recruited late in the year just to keep the roster in the upper single-digits.  Despite the lack of recruiting and lack of depth, Millsaps went 12-13 overall and 8-8 in the SCAC.  Maybe that rapid turnaround should have told us that a big season was coming in 2011-12.

Being a realist, I recognize that Millsaps being 17-2 and 11-0 away from home is partially a case of things going the right way in some close games.  During the 5 games from December 29 through January 8, Millsaps won by 4 at Huntingdon, 3 at Rhodes, and went into OT on the road at BSC and Oglethorpe.  Millsaps recently had a close 4 point home win over Colorado.  But even if the record was "only" 14-5 right now, what a remarkable turnaround that would be from where this team was just a couple of years ago.

All in all, it has been a great job done by Coach Chuck Winkelman, his assistant Jerri Cooper, and by the players on the team.  I look forward to seeing how the rest of the season unfolds and seeing how the Lady Majors do in this year's SCAC Tournament.  I also look forward to seeing how Millsaps will do when Coach Winkelman has a roster filled with 3 or 4 recruiting classes instead of just 1.  The present and the future look bright for Lady Majors baskeball.

Frank you have reason to brag.  Centre was fortunate to get out of Jackson earlier with the "W".  Millsaps, while young, is athletic and balanced.  I think they have a real chance to make considerable noise in Birmingham at the SCAC tournament.  I for one hope my team does not have to face them that weekend!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on January 29, 2012, 05:55:24 PM
Colonels survive a cold shooting day to defeat U of Dallas today 58-48.  Fortunately Dallas couldn't find the basket either.  Maggie Prewitt and Chelsea Benham both recorded double-doubles in rebounds and points. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 01, 2012, 10:37:47 PM
Centre stepped out of conference & hosted Spaulding tonight. Lady Colonels struggled from the field but pulled together late in the 2nd half to gain a victory 66-54. Chelsea Benham led the attack with 16 points; Lauren Huter recorded a double-double of 10 boards / 10 points. Maggie Prewitt recorded 11 assists. Centre stands 18-1 heading into Saturday's home game against Sewanee.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 03, 2012, 11:54:37 PM
Big shocker tonight as Birmingham Southern went into Millsaps and handed the Majors a 15-point loss ending Millsaps' 15 game winning streak. Millsaps now trails Centre 2 games in the loss column.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 06, 2012, 11:09:21 AM
Speaking of ending streaks, Austin College got a three pointer with 1.9 seconds left to snap a 15 games kid, picking up the 61-58 win over Hendrix.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 09, 2012, 09:02:53 PM
Good story on the Centre Athletic website about the Womens team to date.

http://www.centreathletics.com/sports/wbkb/2011-12/releases/20120209axyldi

One thing I learned from the article is that senior Maggie Prewitt leads D3 in assists per game at 7.3.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 10, 2012, 07:49:54 PM
Centre struggling to get to the 20-win plateau against Birmingham Southern with the Colonels down 10 early in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 10, 2012, 09:15:14 PM
The Panthers of Birmingham Southern turned in a very solid effort in defeating top 25 Centre tonight 72-60.  The score is not indicative of what a thrashing BSU put on the Lady Colonels.  The Panthers nailed 12-22 from behind the arc, spread the floor effectively on the offensive side, and won the battle of the boards decisively.  Centre has enjoyed a remarkable run to this point but offensively they sputtered much of the 2nd half in dropping their 1st conference game this season.  Birmingham Southern now enjoys 2 solid wins against upper division opponents - Centre and Millsaps.  The Colonels' loss in my opinion was not unexpected on a tough conference road to travel.  Certainly not a bad loss, and maybe one to help propel them through the remaining 3 conference games without another hiccup.  Birmingham Southern will be a tough opponent for all comers in the SCAC tournament in Birmingham. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 12, 2012, 08:13:43 PM
Centre rebounded from their Friday night loss to Birmingham Southern with a difficult OT win over Oglethorpe this afternoon 74-71.  Senior Maggie Prewitt led the Colonels with 25 points,  6 rebounds and 8 assists. Centre shot 50% from the 3-point line and Prewitt came up big late in the overtime to break a 71-71 logjam with a basket and free throw to propel Centre to its 20th victory. The final weekend of the regular season has the Lady Colonels hosting Sewanee and Rhodes beginning Friday the 17th.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 13, 2012, 11:14:54 PM
A nice story recently on Centre senior guard Maggie Prewitt by Kentucky sportswriter Larry Vaught; the link is below.

http://vaughtsviews.com/?p=17667

Prewitt has definitely stirred the drink for Centre in her senior campaign as the 24th ranked Colonels move into the final week of regular season play with a 20-2 record. She currently leads all Division 3 with 7.1 assists per game and is 2nd in the country in free throws at better than 90%.  She is 3rd in the SCAC in scoring and just came off a 25-point effort on Sunday in an overtime win over Oglethorpe.  She is the consummate team player in spearheading a large group of senior players at Centre.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: j_major32 on February 17, 2012, 03:53:16 PM
It should be a good one tonight in Danville between, in my opinion, the two best teams in the SCAC in Millsaps and Centre! Let's see if the Majors can rebound from an early season loss to Centre in Jackson.

I know for Millsaps, a win MAY put them into the South Regional rankings after they had a bad weekend a couple of weeks ago against BSC/Oglethorpe. Only time will tell.

Can't wait for tipoff!
Title: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SUfan on February 17, 2012, 05:09:20 PM
Just two weekends left in the current SCAC regime.  Texas Lutheran accepted an invitation to join the SCAC this week which rounds out the new SCAC to 8 teams: Southwestern, Trinity, Colorado, Austin, Dallas, Centenary, Texas Lutheran and Schreiner.  SCAC leadership successfully recruited the last 3 away from the Texas dominated ASC.  I can't help but sense that Colorado will begin seeking another conference home as traveling to Texas becomes tiresome.  They will be the only school to see little change in their travel budget after the transition.

On another note, Southwestern will sew up the #1 seed in the west with 2 wins this weekend!  Outstanding play from such a young team bodes well for the future.  They are sure to be a dominant force in the all new SCAC for years to come.  Quite a turn around from the previous 5 years...kuddos to Coach Brinkoeter and the work she has done in such a short time.  She has brought in some quality players.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 17, 2012, 07:52:22 PM
Quote from: SUfan on February 17, 2012, 05:09:20 PM
Just two weekends left in the current SCAC regime.  Texas Lutheran accepted an invitation to join the SCAC this week which rounds out the new SCAC to 8 teams: Southwestern, Trinity, Colorado, Austin, Dallas, Centenary, Texas Lutheran and Schreiner.  SCAC leadership successfully recruited the last 3 away from the Texas dominated ASC.  I can't help but sense that Colorado will begin seeking another conference home as traveling to Texas becomes tiresome.  They will be the only school to see little change in their travel budget after the transition.

On another note, Southwestern will sew up the #1 seed in the west with 2 wins this weekend!  Outstanding play from such a young team bodes well for the future.  They are sure to be a dominant force in the all new SCAC for years to come.  Quite a turn around from the previous 5 years...kuddos to Coach Brinkoeter and the work she has done in such a short time.  She has brought in some quality players.

Unfortunately Colorado College doesn't have a lot of options in Division III; not many schools nearer than Texas for them.  Probably still a good fit for them if they want to play in a conference.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 17, 2012, 07:59:45 PM
Lady Colonels got it done tonight against Millsaps 66-51.  Senior guard Maggie Prewitt knocked down 10-15 from the field in leading the girls with 32 points; she also had 10 rebounds.  Senior Lauren Huter had a nice game with 12 boards and 9 points.  Velvet Johnson led the Majors with 16.  Centre shot 49% and outrebounded Millsaps 38-22.  The final regular season game is this Sunday afternoon against Rhodes as the Colonels will attempt to notch their 22nd win against just 2 losses.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 18, 2012, 12:59:23 PM
Quote from: SUfan on February 17, 2012, 05:09:20 PM
Just two weekends left in the current SCAC regime.  Texas Lutheran accepted an invitation to join the SCAC this week which rounds out the new SCAC to 8 teams: Southwestern, Trinity, Colorado, Austin, Dallas, Centenary, Texas Lutheran and Schreiner.  SCAC leadership successfully recruited the last 3 away from the Texas dominated ASC.  I can't help but sense that Colorado will begin seeking another conference home as traveling to Texas becomes tiresome.  They will be the only school to see little change in their travel budget after the transition.

On another note, Southwestern will sew up the #1 seed in the west with 2 wins this weekend!  Outstanding play from such a young team bodes well for the future.  They are sure to be a dominant force in the all new SCAC for years to come.  Quite a turn around from the previous 5 years...kuddos to Coach Brinkoeter and the work she has done in such a short time.  She has brought in some quality players.
I think that Colorado College will go to the D-2 Rocky Mountain Athletic Conference as a non-football member in the next year or 2.  That really helps the student-athletes with CC's block system where students study only one class at a time. One long road trip pulls you out of class for a huge part of the course.

They are already a scholarship-hybrid program with a strong legendary men's ice hockey program and women's soccer (for Title IX balance.)

If/when Colorado College moves to D-2, I suspect that LeTourneau would be at the top of list* for invitation membership (and the travel partner for Centenary). That makes for a very tight conference.  You could almost go with Friday/Saturday playing dates, fewer nights on the road, fewer missed class days, etc.

(*One caveat for a more impressive credential might be a football-playing school.)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SUfan on February 18, 2012, 09:38:57 PM
I was actually surprised by the TLU announcement, expecting it to be LeTu. I think they are a much better fit than TLU.  They may get a shot if Colorado makes a move.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 18, 2012, 09:52:19 PM
Austin College finishes the season winning 3 of their final 4 games. Granted, tonight was against a Trinity team without its leading scorer, but it's an extremely positive way for the team to end the year when they desperately needed some wins for morale, considering how snake bitten they were by injuries this year.

Christina Kime notched a triple double tonight for the 'Roos with 23 points, 11 assists and 10 rebounds. AC was only 4-21, but I really, really hope the coaches take a good long look at her for conference Newcomer of the Year. She's in the top 10 in scoring, assists and free throw percentage and is just a heck of a ballplayer. Next year, with all of the injured players back and healthy to go along with Kime (three of five starters were lost for the year), AC could and probably will really surprise people.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SUfan on February 18, 2012, 09:57:50 PM
Wild finish at Dallas tonight as Southwestern entered the game needing the win to secure the top seed in the west. Likewise, Dallas needed the win to make the SCAC tourney. After pulling ahead early, the Pirates found themselves down 13 after a run by Dallas. It took SU the rest of the first half to claw their way back to within 1. Dallas struck early in the second half pushing the lead back to as much as 12 before the defensive pressure forced some timely turnovers. Chelsea Leeder took over in the final few minutes to score what seemed like half of her game high 27 points. It was a hard fought victory. The Pirates are looking forward to matching up against Birmingham after a convincing 13 point win at home on Jan. 13th. Both teams are coming off nice winning streaks and are shooting the ball well. It should be an exciting game.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 19, 2012, 06:27:56 PM
Sort of a ho-hum performance from Centre today in closing out the regular season with a 58-56 home loss to Rhodes.  Hand it to the Lynx - they played well against a strong contingent of Centre seniors not used to losing tight games let alone games period this season.  Lauren Avant (19 pts) and Sharwil Bell (16 pts) were warriors in leading the Rhodes women.   Lauren Huter played a tremendous game for the Colonels with 22 points and 12 rebounds. Centre will need to shoot the ball better come SCAC tournament-time.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SUfan on February 19, 2012, 10:52:07 PM
Centre's lackluster final two weekends, Rhode's new weapon in Avant, and Southwestern and Birminham's run of victories at season's end are setting up a very interesting SCAC tourney. Some teams seem to be peaking at the right time while others are fading.  Looks like it could be anyone's tournament at this point...
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 20, 2012, 10:56:20 PM
Quote from: SUfan on February 19, 2012, 10:52:07 PM
Centre's lackluster final two weekends, Rhode's new weapon in Avant, and Southwestern and Birminham's run of victories at season's end are setting up a very interesting SCAC tourney. Some teams seem to be peaking at the right time while others are fading.  Looks like it could be anyone's tournament at this point...
Agree SUfan.  Think the tournament is up for grabs.  I will tell you this Rhodes team is for real.  Bell and Avant  are athletic, talented players.  They are surrounded by some other nice players.  Rhodes likely sees Centre again in the 2nd round if each can win its opener.   The Lynx are my so-called sleeper.  Birmingham Southern is also capable, especially given that they play on their homecourt.  I am partial to the east based on what I have seen. The thing you must keep in mind about the tournament is it usually takes consistently good play over three games for a team to emerge a winner. If a team lets down its guard, it is over.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 24, 2012, 03:36:37 PM
Centre has gotten through the opening round of the SCAC by defeating Hendrix 65-46.  Maggie Prewitt led the charge with 18 points, 9 assists and 7 rebounds.  Bridget Winstead scored 12 with 4-7 from beyond the arc.  Jane Goatley chipped in two 3s for 8 points.  Hendrix was led by Avery Roller with 15 and Jamie Tate's 9 points (8 rebounds).  Next up for the Lady Colonels will be a Saturday afternoon tilt against the winner of today's 2nd game between Colorado College and Rhodes.  Think this next game today will be one worth watching.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SUfan on February 25, 2012, 03:51:19 AM
The third game of the SCAC women's tourney lived up to its billing.  The two hottest teams in the conference (Southwestern and Birmingham Southern) met up in a barn burner of a game in a raucous Homewood HS gym.  Southwestern may have been home on the scoreboard but they were most definitely the visitors in that environment.  The two teams would ultimately set the SCAC tournament record for combined points in the first ever double overtime thriller which saw 11 lead changes and several clutch shots down the stretch.  Neither team gave up fighting for this one as it came down to a last second layup by first year Madison Eschle (pronounced 'ashley') to seal the win for SU 96-95.  Three players for SU had 20+ points as senior Anna Fareed put up 28 on 8 of 14 shooting (4-8 3pt) and 8-10 from the charity stripe.  She was followed closely by first year Jordan Owens who added 25 points on 9 of 20 shooting (0-2 3pt) and 7-10 from the line.  The team's leading scorer on the season, Chelsea Leeder, added 24 points...also on 9 of 20 from the floor (2-8 3pt) and 4-4 from the line.  She also posted 6 assists and 5 steals on the night. 

The question is, after 50 minutes of all out effort do they have anything left for the second round against Millsaps.  The Pirates are used to playing back-to-back having done it 6 out of their 7 conference double-headers.  But I daresay they were not tested in the first of those games quite like they were tonight.  Millsaps on the other hand played no back-to-back conference games this season and only scheduled 3 back-to-back games all year...the last back at the end of December 2011.  Granted, they didn't have to work quite as long as the Pirates did tonight, but Trinity still made them work for the win (unlike Hendrix and Colorado). 

Southwestern is the lone remaining hope for the west to bring home a championship before the west becomes the SCAC outright later this year.  Go Pirates!!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 25, 2012, 10:23:52 PM
Centre played a fantastic opening half of basketball against Rhodes in opening up a 22-point lead. It was a good thing for the Lynx came out playing lockdown defense the final 20 minutes and they made a game of it. There were stretches where Rhodes' defense was so good Centre couldn't get any looks and the possession resulted in a shot clock violation. Way to go Centre but hats off to Rhodes on a heck of an effort.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: frank_ezelle on February 26, 2012, 09:13:18 AM
Two years ago I was relieved when Millsaps won a game late in the season--that turned out to be the only win of the 2009-10 season.  Now they are in the SCAC Championship game with a 20+ win season.

It is a turn around just as remarkable as when Mike DuBose revived the Millsaps football program.  This success story won't get the attention that it deserves, certainly no where close to the attention football got, but it has been an amazing turnaround.  Congratulations to the coaches and players for the success resulting from their hard efforts.

Now I'm once again just hoping for a single win as the Lady Majors take on Centre for the SCAC Championship.  No doubt that Millsaps has to be considered the underdog in this game, but they have already proven that the seemingly impossible is very much a possibility.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 26, 2012, 11:50:12 PM
Centre had their hands full with a talented athletic Millsaps squad today.  Fortunately Centre's coaching staff had a good game plan and the players executed it beautifully.  The press and the constantly changing defenses were the tickets to victory in Centre's 60-48 championship win.  Coach Austin-Robinson has the double-good fortune of having lots of seniors (8) and plenty of depth.  This was critical for the Colonels against the Majors. A tremendous season for both teams, and Millsaps was the most improved team I saw play in the SCAC season.  Now the Centre faithful await the team's slotting in the D3 tournament later this week.  Given circumstances in the South Region, Centre has been elevated to the #1 spot in the Regional Rankings by virtue of their 3-win weekend and Louisiana College's loss in their league tournament final.  The Colonel ladies hope they might get to host next weekend; think this is a good possibility.

Congratulations to the SCAC family for another great tournament.  Things will never be the same.

Finally, best of luck to Centre next weekend wherever and whomever you play.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on March 02, 2012, 05:06:29 PM
For those interested, the tournament games at Centre tonight have been delayed due to inclement weather.  The Washington University/ Ferrum game will begin at 7:30 pm ET (2 hours behind the regularly scheduled time); the Centre/Guilford game starts at 9:30 pm ET.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 02, 2012, 05:25:04 PM
Quote from: pbrooks3 on March 02, 2012, 05:06:29 PM
For those interested, the tournament games at Centre tonight have been delayed due to inclement weather.  The Washington University/ Ferrum game will begin at 7:30 pm ET (2 hours behind the regularly scheduled time); the Centre/Guilford game starts at 9:30 pm ET.
Travel safely, one and all.

I hope that the Danville area misses the really bad storms.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on March 02, 2012, 05:29:44 PM
Most of the severe stuff at the moment is northeast of Danville having passed through the Lexington area a short time ago.  Tornado watches are in effect all over the extended Ohio Valley until 9 pm local time.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on March 03, 2012, 12:23:29 AM
Centre Lady Colonels shook out the cobwebs coming out of the locker room at half to overcome a 4 pt deficit and win their 1st round game 59-47 against Guilford.  Centre really got after it defensively in the final 20 minutes holding Guilford to 22% shooting, 17 points and 6 1/2 minutes of futilty on the offensive end midway through the half.  Maggie Prewitt played the entire game except the final 40 seconds.  She led the team with 21 points, 12 rebounds, 6 assists and 1 turnover.  Lauren Huter tallied 13.  Bridget Winstead chipped in 2 huge 3's in the 2nd half to help at critical junctures. It was a complete team effort, particularly on the defensive side.  Centre is now 25-3 and faces Washington U tomorrow night in the 2nd round game from Danville.  Credit the Guilford Quakers for being a forceful opponent tonight.  Go Lady Colonels!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on March 03, 2012, 10:13:38 PM
One heck of a basketball game @ Centre tonight as the Lady Colonels prevail 57-55 over #9 Wash U. This was a nail-biter down the stretch as small leads were had by both teams. Centre was dominated in the 1st half for the second night in a row as the Bears took a 32-20 lead to the locker room. Wash U simply enforced their will with patience and solid rebounding, and Centre was helter-skelter most of the first 20 minutes. The Colonels came alive early in the 2nd stanza by making a few 3's to cut into the Bears lead. Centre actually took as much as a 3-point lead in the final 10 minutes, but the experienced Bears weathered the storm by making several offensive conversions to gain a 53-49 advantage with about 3 minutes to play. Centre got some big plays from Lauren Huter and Chelsea Benham to tie the score at 55.  Centre ended up with the ball with about 25 seconds remaining. Benham made another big move in the post to take a shot & got fouled. She drained 2 free throws with 14 seconds left. Wash U got positioned to go for a tying basket but lost possession to the Colonels with 1.6 secnods to play. Centre somehow survived an offensive foul by Maggie Prewitt with 1.3 seconds to play to win an exciting 2nd round game. Prewitt led Centre with 21 points and 6 rebounds. Benham in coming up big when it counted tallied 12 points.  This was a defensive tussle tonight. The Colonels shot a miserable 29% from the field but knocked down several critical 3's when needed. They relied on their strong free throw prowess by draining 17-18, none bigger than Benham's to get the final 2 points of the contest. This was one tremendous tournament game to witness regardless of which team you were supporting. Both squads were spent and totally left it out on the Memorial Gym floor. Now we Centre partisans celebrate making the sweet 16 & awaiting where the Lady Colonels play Carthage next weekend. I for one would love to see more basketball in Danville.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on March 04, 2012, 08:24:53 AM
Pretty amazing atmosphere during the Centre Wash U game last night at Danville, especially in the 2nd half.  Even the Centre first family got into some serious cheering.  President Roush and his wife led the faithful during one timeout with the spelling of Centre.  What a fun game and venue to have been a witness to Saturday evening.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on March 08, 2012, 09:32:46 PM
Centre Ladies have arrived in NE Ohio as they prepare to play Carthage tomorrow night at Mt. Union.  Mt. Union will host Illinois Wesleyan in the nightcap.  Should be two competitive games.  No one has doubted either Mt. Union or IWU going into this tournament.  Having both Carthage and Centre in the round of 16 is probably considered something of a surprise among regular D3 followers.  Carthage taking down DePauw in Greencastle was impressive especially when you consider DePaul had 22 more rebounds and 20 more shots.  Only problem was DPU could not find the basket on most of their 60 shots.  Centre was also impressive in taking down a storied Wash U team that had finished no worse than 2nd in the D3 tournament ranks the past 3 seasons!  I am expecting a tight battle between Carthage and Centre; think these two are pretty well matched.  If Centre is to prevail this will need a better start away from home.  They'll need their share of free throws as well.  No one can doubt the tenacity of the Lady Reds - look for them to get after it Friday night.  The 2nd game should be equally competitive. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on March 09, 2012, 09:37:55 PM
Was not the best shooting night for Centre as they drop a 71-61 game to a hard-driving well-coached Carthage team. Unlike last weekend Centre actually got off to a decent start offensively by jumping to an early lead. The lead shifted back & forth between the 2 teams most of the 1st half.  Carthage got a small run going with about 3 minutes before halftime & took a 34-29 lead into the break. The Lady Reds' offensive execution was solid and got better in the last 20 minutes where they shot the ball at a 60%+ clip. Their bigs were excellent at grabbing tough passes and creating enough space for short clean looks that they finished nicely. Centre started the 2nd half poorly with no rhythm to its game on the offensive side. Carthage stretched the lead to 10-12 points quickly at that point. Centre struggled to find decent shots and Carthage defended well giving the Colonels 1 look on most possessions. Carthage continued to stretch the margin to 20 in the last 5-6 minutes and it looked like it would be ugly to the finish line for Centre. Credit the Colonels as their senior guard - Maggie Prewitt - led them on a late run to make things interesting by cutting the lead in half in about 120 seconds! Prewitt dropped in 3 bombs and a total of 16 in the last 3-4 minutes to make it a game. Unfortunate for Centre, they did not get things going until it was in the late stages. Carthage is a tremendously efficient team that played superior defense tonight. They showed this evening why they are the #1 shooting D3 team; their players just need a little space to get off successful shots. Centre leaves the tournament stage now having exceeded expectations by going 26-4 and reaching the sweet 16.  Congratulations to Centre for their grit and determination this year. The 8 seniors for the Colonels go out with nothing to hang their heads about. Also congrats to Carthage on a tremendous tournament run as they prepare for match #4 against Illinois Wesleyan who pulled out a buzzer-beating win 70-69 over host Mt Union a few moments ago.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 16, 2012, 11:19:24 AM
Pbrooks, I have always appreciated your insight and commentary - it will be missed as you and your school head to the SAA.  Thank you for all that you have done to support SCAC basketball!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on March 16, 2012, 03:54:05 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on March 16, 2012, 11:19:24 AM
Pbrooks, I have always appreciated your insight and commentary - it will be missed as you and your school head to the SAA.  Thank you for all that you have done to support SCAC basketball!
Ron, when the Trinity Men beat Centre in the SCAC final this year, I was saddened to see this chapter of the SCAC close myself.  Hope there will be regular future encounters from time to time between the combatants of both leagues.  Good luck to the new SCAC.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on March 18, 2012, 11:57:54 AM
Additional kudos to Centre on their fantastic season.  Coach Wendie Austin-Robinson pulls down regional coach of the year award.  Maggie Prewitt makes 1st team All-American honors. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on April 09, 2012, 11:41:17 AM
Trinity announces that Amie Bradley has resigned as women's basketball coach:

http://trinitytigers.com/sports/wbkb/2011-12/releases/04-09-12_bradley_resign

Interestingly, former coach Becky Geyer, who led the school to its greatest success and the national championship in 2003, is back in San Antonio and no longer coaching; she's athletic director for TMI, a private Episcopal school in San Antonio after stints as coach and assistant at the D1 level.   You'd think she might get a phone call ...
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on April 12, 2012, 11:37:13 PM
One day later UTexas announces that Amie Bradley has been hired as a 'special assistant' to help with recruiting for the women's team there:

http://www.texassports.com/sports/w-baskbl/spec-rel/041012aaa.html

She gets to return to UT where she starred, has fewer responsibilities, and probably makes more than she did at Trinity.  No brainer!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on May 10, 2012, 12:50:27 PM
Cameron Hill, former men's basketball player (TU class of 1999) named as head women's basketball coach:  http://bit.ly/INcS6t
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SUfan on November 18, 2012, 01:50:51 AM
SU Pirates opened up the new season strong at home despite injuries that kept 3 of the top 8 players, including lone senior Katelyn Bartel, on the sidelines. The Pirates put up 167 points on the weekend while shooting 38% from the floor and 19% from behind the arc. Physically they look to be in mid-season form and their new high tempo offense is creating a lot of scoring opportunities...and trips to the charity stripe. Should be an exciting season.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SUfan on November 25, 2012, 11:52:49 PM
Southwestern split this weekend in a matchup against future conference opponent Shriner and ASC member Hardin Simmons. The Pirates led by double digits late in the game against Shriner and weathered a scoring drought to win by 3. Hardin Simmons proved more of a challenge. The Pirates led by as much as 9 early and were ahead by 5 at the break. They pushed the lead to 7 early in the second half but the majority of last 15 minutes were back and forth, neither team leading by more than 4. The final 6 minutes saw a total of 5 points scored between the two teams. Despite an incredible defensive stand by the Pirates that led to 5 HSU turnovers in the final minutes, SU was 1 for 7 shooting and 0-2 from the charity stripe down the stretch. HSU went 1 for 4 from the floor and 1 for 2 from the FT line in the final minutes, hitting a jumper with 7 seconds left that proved to be the game winner.

SU opens conference play this weekend at Austin and Centenary.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SUfan on November 26, 2012, 12:06:27 AM
On a side note, Chelsea Leeder has broken the SU career 3pt FG record of 134!  She did so in the 3rd game of the season on the road in a 2 point loss to Mary Hardin Baylor. The old record was held by Priyanka Kainthla ('03-'07), a player Coach Brinkoeter recruited in her first stint as the SU Head Coach.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SUfan on November 30, 2012, 11:42:17 PM
First night of conference play came with wins for both Southwestern and Trinity on the road at Austin and Centenary respectively.  Chelsea Leeder came out of her 3pt shooting slump for the Pirates to nail 7 of 14 from behind the arc and put up 29 of the Pirates 66 points.  Coach Brinkoeter would say after the game, "it looked like Austin's game plan was to crowd the lane and let our guards shoot the ball."  And shoot they did, hitting 14 of 34 from 3pt land.  The Pirates scored just 8 points in the paint to Austin's 14.  SU trailed for the first 7:15 of the first half until Leeder hit her first 3 of the game.  After 7 more minutes of back and forth play, Leeder took over scoring 14 of the team's 18 pts to close the half up 15 (33-18). 

Annie Bourne scored a layup to open the second half and push the lead to 17.  The lead grew to 20 before Austin mounted a comeback on the backs of the officials, outscoring the Pirates in the final 12 minutes 22-16.  Austin cut the lead to 9 with 1:48 left in the game, but that was as close as they would get.

Austin's Brooke Melton put up a solid double-double with 18 points to go along with 15 rebounds.  The always dangerous Shayna Clardy added 11pts on 3-4 3pt shooting.

The Pirates are back in action tomorrow night in Shreveport against new SCAC member Centenary. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: SUfan on December 02, 2012, 09:34:06 PM
Both Southwestern and Trinity won on the second night of conference play.  Southwestern's Jordan Owens broke the SU single game scoring record that she tied earlier in the year.  She put up 34 against Centenary as the Pirates scored 95 against the Ladies without Chelsea Leeder.  Leeder left the game after some so-so play complaining of nausea and dizziness.  She was diagnosed with a concussion from a bump on the head earlier in the day in transit to the game. 

Trinity narrowly escaped a late rally by Austin College, winning by 6.  Both teams are now 2-0 in conference.

The Pirates have 14 days until their next game against ASC opponent Concordia.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on December 18, 2012, 10:49:58 AM
Trinity travels to Orange CA (part of their SOCAL SCIAC trip) to take on the Chapman Panthers on Wednesday
afternoon at 1 PM. You can catch all the action at "chapman athletics.com".
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dahlby on December 20, 2012, 12:09:23 AM
Chapman Ladies over Trinity this afternoon in a tightly fought contest 73-68.
Write up and box score at "chapmanathletics.com".
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 13, 2013, 06:46:13 PM
Looks like the conference championship may come down to Trinity and Southwestern, both 6-0 and with their first game against each other scheduled for the 19th in San Antonio.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 19, 2013, 08:33:09 PM
... which Trinity wins, 86-74 in a game a bit closer than that.  Anecia Richardson had 24 points and 10 board to lead the way for the homestanding Tigers.   The teams will meet two more times before the conference tournament, in San Antonio on Feb 6th and in Georgetown on the 9th.   
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 25, 2013, 06:22:12 PM
I'll continue talking to myself ... this week's Around The Nation talks about three coaches in their first season of leading a team, and one of which is Trinity's coach Cameron Hill.   Thank you, Brian Falzarano! 

http://www.d3hoops.com/columns/around-the-nation/2012-13/coaching-without-a-safety-net
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 25, 2013, 07:27:52 PM
Please consider your posts as reading material for the well-informed South Region fan...
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 25, 2013, 11:10:56 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on January 25, 2013, 06:22:12 PM
I'll continue talking to myself ... this week's Around The Nation talks about three coaches in their first season of leading a team, and one of which is Trinity's coach Cameron Hill.   Thank you, Brian Falzarano! 

http://www.d3hoops.com/columns/around-the-nation/2012-13/coaching-without-a-safety-net

Glad you tweeted so someone at Trinity actually noticed it.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 26, 2013, 12:51:47 PM
Sorry for leaving the actual link to the article out of the tweet ...  :-(

and, obtw, could you let the writer know that the SCAC does have an NCAA playoff bid this season?  Could not find an email address for him, sent him a tweet, no response and the article still says there isn't a bid (unless there isn't, but I thought the SCAC had a couple of years to get back to seven teams and sufficient teams participating this year to retain the bid). 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 06, 2013, 11:45:07 AM
Round 2 (of 3) between the teams at the top of the SCAC is tonight at 6 at Trinity.  Southwestern (16-5, 10-1 SCAC) has been very impressive since the two last met, racking up four straight wins by an average of 27 points.   Against the same opponents, Trinity (17-4, 11-0 SCAC) also went 4-0 with an average MOV a hair under 14. 

If Southwestern wins tonight, the conference regular season championship is likely determined Saturday in Georgetown, a game I plan to attend.  Both teams have home games remaining versus Colorado College and UDallas.  The conference tournament (and pool A bid) will be determined in Sherman the weekend after next.    Don't know if either team has what it takes for a Pool C bid; at best, six or seven losses depending on the team and very mediocre SoS (right now, Trinity at 174 and Southwestern at 352).    Guess the regional rankings (due this week?) might help clarify that situation. 

It doesn't help that none of the other SCAC teams are .500, with Centenary and Colorado College combining for an 8-34 record.    Centenary has one win outside of conference play (1-8), Colorado none (0-10). 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 07, 2013, 09:51:28 AM
Trinity gets another win to stay undefeated in conference, overcoming an early 12-point deficit to win 78-66.   The Tigers were led by first-year Anecia Richardson's 26 points (on 11-of-18 shooting), 7 boards, and 3 steals, and senior Murphy Burns added 20, 9, and 5 steals.   Southwestern got 23 points and 22 rebounds from Annie Bourne, the current SCAC player of the week.   The win gives Trinity a two-game lead in the conference standings with three to play (one against Southwestern).

With neither team appearing in the first regional rankings, looks like the only route to the playoffs will be to win the AQ at the end of the month.   Oddly, Trinity dropped to 251 in SOS after last night's win against the 16-6 Pirates. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 09, 2013, 11:21:05 PM
Trinity makes it 3-0 against Southwestern, winning tonight in Georgetown 101-89. 

Southwestern jumped out to an early lead that they maintained nearly the entire half, spurred by numerous offensive rebounds, Trinity turnovers, and an 11-5 edge in fouls called.   Madison Eschle was hot early for the Lady Pirates hitting several threes on her way to 18 points on the night.   Southwestern led 50-40 at the half.

The second half started with more of the same, with Trinity fighting foul problems to both Murphy Burns, who picked up her fourth five minutes into the second half, and Anecia Richardson, who had her third earlier in the second.  Both went to the bench, but Hannah Coley kept the Tigers close, and when Burns and Richardson returned, the combination of strong play from all three was more than the home team could handle.  Trinity outscored Southwestern 61-39 in the second half in running their record to 19-4, 13-0 SCAC while the Lady Pirates fell to 16-7, 10-3.

Coley had 33 points on 15-of-17 shooting; Burns had 28 on 10-of-18, and Richardson added 19 on 9-of-11.  The 101 points scored by Trinity is second only to 109 in a overtime loss at La Verne earlier this season.   The win clinches the top seed in the upcoming SCAC championships for Trinity. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 13, 2013, 04:21:59 PM
Trinity (19-4 on the season) also makes its first appearance in the regional rankings (http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2013/02/13/ncaa-regional-rankings-week-2-2/) in some time this week, at 7th in the South.    Part of that comes from playing in a weaker SCAC, but even so the turnaround from last season's dreary 9-17 campaign and the previous year's 14-13 is a tribute not only to the players but to first-year coach Hill.   
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 24, 2013, 03:12:36 PM
Trinity women run the table in the SCAC, winning today's conference championship 77-65 over Southwestern.  They'll probably end up facing someone from the ASC, and that will probably be a road game at Louisiana College, in today's ASC championship game against upstart UT-Dallas.  Howard Payne was above TU in last week's regional rankings but with a loss to UT-D last night (at home) are probably out of the playoff picture.

Trinity is likely hoping for the UT-D upset today; LC might get a pool C bid, but could stay ranked above Trinity (don't know if they would drop from 3rd to 6th with a loss), so the NCAA would send UT-D to San Antonio and LC would get someone flown in or maybe get the SAA champion (or are there any first round byes left?).   And if LC doesn't get a bid TU would host.

Trinity has a road win at UT-D earlier this season.  It's the first time since 2008 Trinity will play in the postseason.  Don't know all the players but Coach Hill has to be in at least the regional CoTY conversation.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 24, 2013, 07:09:05 PM
No, that's not right.  Usually first and second rounds at one site which, even though UT-D did win today, may very well still end up being at LC.   Duh.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 24, 2013, 08:19:13 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 24, 2013, 07:09:05 PM
No, that's not right.  Usually first and second rounds at one site which, even though UT-D did win today, may very well still end up being at LC.   Duh.
All four teams can be bussed to a location.  HPU to LC is under 500 miles.

The LC loss today might juggle the Regional Rankings.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 24, 2013, 09:34:14 PM
Trinity's SOS is so bad I can't see LC falling that much.  Would not break my heart if they did, obviously.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 25, 2013, 12:05:25 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 24, 2013, 09:34:14 PM
Trinity's SOS is so bad I can't see LC falling that much.  Would not break my heart if they did, obviously.
Common opponents?

Trinity is 1-0 versus UT-Dallas.  LaCollege is 1-2.

The remainder of the records versus common opponents is roughly comparable.

Trinity has a split with HSU. LaCollege is 1-0.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 25, 2013, 09:43:30 AM
Pretty even as you say and given the disparity in SOS can't see that changing things.

The projected bracket this AM points out that if LC hosts they can bus Huntingdon there, too, to complete the pod.  We all know that travel money trumps all so that's probably the clincher for LC, and there's not even anything for me to get righteous over given Trinity's lack of wins against RROs.   
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 25, 2013, 10:19:53 AM
I had forgotten about LC hosting Huntingdon, the Pool A bid from the GSAC.

Nice treat for the Lady Hawks, in the year of the best chance for them to earn a Playoff bid.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 25, 2013, 02:50:47 PM
So did the NCAA as the two ASC schools get sent to Rhodes - RHODES? - and Trinity's stuck with a trip to the west coast  :o

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pbrooks3 on February 25, 2013, 04:29:19 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 25, 2013, 02:50:47 PM
So did the NCAA as the two ASC schools get sent to Rhodes - RHODES? - and Trinity's stuck with a trip to the west coast  :o
Incredible ain't it!  I had asked this question last night during Hoopsville as to whether Rhodes had a chance at hosting as a result of geography.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 25, 2013, 06:49:25 PM
Quote from: pbrooks3 on February 25, 2013, 04:29:19 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 25, 2013, 02:50:47 PM
So did the NCAA as the two ASC schools get sent to Rhodes - RHODES? - and Trinity's stuck with a trip to the west coast  :o
Incredible ain't it!  I had asked this question last night during Hoopsville as to whether Rhodes had a chance at hosting as a result of geography.
Geographic proximity.  It saves the NCAA flights because my favorite is Wash U, with LaCollege as the #2.

Rhodes:  from Wash StL   - 299 miles
              from LaCollege   - 394 miles
              from UT-Dallas   -  460 miles

IMHO, since HPU did not make it a Texas/Louisiana Thing (with UT-D, LaCollege, Trinity and HPU), they flew Trinity out.

The other limiting factor is who submitted a bid to host.  ;)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 28, 2013, 10:05:47 AM
Trinity will be a substantial underdog on the road tonight, but win or loss I'm very proud of the job the team has done this season.    The team only graduates one starter - the one getting the least amount of playing time - so with SCAC co-PoTY Murphy Burns, Hannah Coley, SCAC co-DPoY Libby Cruse, and SCAC newcomer-of-the-year Anecia Richardson coming back, next year should be even better.

Good luck tonight Friday against a very tough Lewis & Clark team. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 03, 2013, 12:43:40 PM
The season ended unceremoniously, but with almost everyone back next year the future is bright for the Trinity women.   We'll see you next season, ladies!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 13, 2014, 05:52:55 PM
Another episode of Hoopsville is slated for tonight and Trinity (Texas) WBB coach Cameron Hill is scheduled to join us along with the following guests:

- Pomona-Pitzer MBB coach Charles Katsiaficas
- #15 Wittenberg MBB coach Bill Brown
- #2 Hope WBB coach Brian Morehouse
- Stevenson WBB coach Jackie Boswell
- Maryville WBB coach Darrin Travillian
- Nazareth MBB coach Kevin Broderick
- St. Mary's (Md.) MBB coach Chris Harney

Show starts at 7 PM EST and will run at least 2:30 tonight.

You can tune in here: www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2013-14/feb13 (http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2013-14/jan12)

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Thanks and enjoy the show!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 22, 2015, 09:36:49 PM
Trinity (TX) is off to a good start after a quick swing to the east coast that saw easy victories over (then-) #16 Catholic, 66-51, and a 67-33 domination of Johns Hopkins in the championship of the Mike Durgala Memorial Tournament held at JH.    If they can win their next contest, at home against Hardin-Simmons on Saturday, it would match the team's best start in history since 2009-10 (6-0).     
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 28, 2015, 07:56:39 PM
Trinity (TX) defeats Hardin-Simmons today, 64-56, to move to 6-0.   

Next up are two games (not exhibitions) against Division I opponents:  Houston Baptist and Incarnate Word.   

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 03, 2015, 08:26:55 AM
Trinity (TX) women kept it close in the first half thanks to an excellent defensive effort (holding D1 Houston Baptist to 1-19 shooting in the second quarter), but HBU pulled away in the second half to give Trinity their first defeat of the season, 60-46.   Anecia Richardson led Trinity with 12 points and 7 boards.    Back home for Incarnate Word on Saturday afternoon.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 04, 2015, 09:09:11 AM
The number of D-III women's teams who have beaten D-I teams is incredibly small. D-I women's teams don't play decent D-III teams. :(

Quote from: Ron Boerger on December 03, 2015, 08:26:55 AM
Trinity (TX) women kept it close in the first half thanks to an excellent defensive effort (holding D1 Houston Baptist to 1-19 shooting in the second quarter), but HBU pulled away in the second half to give Trinity their first defeat of the season, 60-46.   Anecia Richardson led Trinity with 12 points and 7 boards.    Back home for Incarnate Word on Saturday afternoon.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 05, 2015, 06:51:34 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 04, 2015, 09:09:11 AM
The number of D-III women's teams who have beaten D-I teams is incredibly small. D-I women's teams don't play decent D-III teams. :(

Quote from: Ron Boerger on December 03, 2015, 08:26:55 AM
Trinity (TX) women kept it close in the first half thanks to an excellent defensive effort (holding D1 Houston Baptist to 1-19 shooting in the second quarter), but HBU pulled away in the second half to give Trinity their first defeat of the season, 60-46.   Anecia Richardson led Trinity with 12 points and 7 boards.    Back home for Incarnate Word on Saturday afternoon.

Today's final from San Antonio:   Trinity (TX) 61, D-I Incarnate Word 55.    ;D

Monica Holguin led all scorers with 24, and Caitlin Barrett had two big steals and an offensive rebound in the last 45 seconds to help secure the win.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 29, 2015, 07:27:02 PM
Trinity fell behind by 19 late in the  first half against LeTourneau, but outscored the Yellow Jackets 10-0 the rest of the half and went on to post a 88-68 win at the UT-Tyler Christmas Classic.  Monica Holguin had 24, Anecia Richardson 22, and Mollie Hughes added 14 points and 13 boards in the win.

Should be a very good game tomorrow against homestanding UT-Tyler, ranked 13th in the most recent D3hoops Top 25.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 30, 2015, 10:19:46 PM
Trinity comes up short at UT-Tyler today, 45-62.   1-16 shooting from beyond the arc and ten (of 20) missed free throws sealed the Tigers' fate. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 12, 2016, 08:16:48 AM
Trinity got two road wins to open SCAC play. an easy 91-49 effort over Colorado College, but had to go to OT to defeat a much improved Centenary, 81-76.    Back home this weekend for a pair against TLU and Southwestern.

Centenary might make an interesting story for ATR or Hoopsville.   After two consecutive winless seasons (and a 6-19 showing the year before that), the Ladies promoted Justin LeBlanc from an assistant role for the men's team as women's head coach.    The results so far are encouraging, as Centenary stands 6-8 and recorded their first-ever SCAC win in two-plus years, 76-56 against Colorado the week before last, and the Ladies had their chances to upset Trinity in regulation with a missed layup/three at the end of the fourth quarter, either of which could have won the game. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 15, 2016, 11:52:46 PM
Trinity falls to Texas Lutheran 65-55 in a game where they struggled badly from the field (27.7% on 18-of-65, 7-of-26 from beyond the arc).   Stalwart Anecia Richardson was a DNP; combined with only a handful of minutes the prior game against Centenary I fear she has suffered an injury of some sort.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 17, 2016, 11:53:33 PM
Ron - she's out for the season; torn ACL. Career is over.

They recovered very nicely against Southwestern. I think Trinity will be just as dangerous moving forward.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 03, 2016, 04:58:04 PM
For the third consecutive year, Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com) will air for 12 hours as the regular season enters the final four weeks. Dave McHugh will chat with coaches, administrators, student-athletes, and others involved in Division III basketball from around the country. Other guests will include those who have Division III roots or appreciate the division and the game along with the student-athletes who play the sport.

Hoopsville will air from 10 a.m. to 10 p.m. (and maybe later) on Thursday, February 4 live from the WBCA/NABC Studio. You can see what guests are scheduled, get more information, and watch the show here: http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2015-16/feb4

You can also read the press release about the show: http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/hoopsville-marathon-2016

Here is the guest list as we speak. All times are Eastern and subject to change. Additional guests to be added if and when necessary:


   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
TimeGuestSchool
10:15amConnie TilleySt. Norbert (WBB) - WBCA Center Court
10:40amJamie PurdyPeidmont (WBB)
11:00amKeri CarolloUW-Whitewater (WBB) - Nat'l Committee Chair
11:20amBrent PollariSaint Mary's (Minn.) (WBB)
11:40amKent MadsenNo. 21 Wheaton (Ill.) (WBB)
12:00pmRussell LoydRose-Hulman (MBB)
12:20pmKevin BroderickNazareth (MBB)
12:40pmJustin ScottArcadia (MBB)
1:00pmSam HargravesNo. 12 Alma (MBB)
1:20pmLenny ReichMount Union (SID)
1:40pmMaureen WebsterClarkson (WBB)
2:00pmBetsy WitmanYork (Pa.) (WBB)
2:20pmSara LeeDenison (WBB)
2:40pmKlay KneuppelWisconsin Lutheran (MBB)
3:00pmBrian Van HaaftenBuena Vista (MBB) - Nat'l Committee Chair
3:30pmSydney MossNo. 1 Thomas More (WBB)
3:45pmAaron RousellBucknell (WBB) - former Chicago coach
4:00pmTim ShanahanStaten Island (WBB)
4:20Pat CunninghamTrinity (Texas) (MBB) - NABC Coach's Corner
4:50pmBubba SmithSewanee (MBB)
5:15pmBen StrongFormer Guilford All-American
5:30pmKevin ConnorsESPN SportsCenter Anchor - Ithaca alumnus
6:00pmKristen DowlingClaremont-Mudd-Scripps (WBB)
6:20pmAllison ColemanSage (WBB)
6:40pmLandry KosmalskiSwarthmore (MBB)
7:00pmDave NilandNo. 23 Penn State-Behrend (MBB)
7:20pmAaron GallettaLasell (MBB)
7:40pmJohn BaronGwynedd-Mercy (MBB)
8:00pm
8:20pm
8:40pmMelissa HodgdonWheaton (Mass.) (WBB)
9:00pmG.P. GromackiNo. 2 Amherst (WBB)
9:20pmJames Wagner
9:40pmHAPPY HOURFree-for-all of calls, tweets, and fun!

We hope to get at least the full show on a podcast, or several podcast, during the on Friday. You can find it here:
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iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/hoopsville/id1059517087

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And a reminder the Hoopsville Fundraising Project has begun yet again. Please consider helping us cover Division III basketball the way it deserves to be covered. If you can not donate, please don't worry about - we understand. At least share the campaign with anyone you think might be interested: http://igg.me/at/hoopsville-fundraiser/x/6029509

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Thanks!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 08, 2016, 01:10:26 PM
Trinity wins a tight one at Texas Lutheran to reclaim the SCAC lead, and after jumping out to a YUGE lead in the second half at Southwestern (24 midway through the third) saw all but six points vanish before hitting enough FTs late to win by nine.     They hold Colorado College and Centenary this weekend, and finish up at Schreiner the following Saturday.     Centenary took them to OT the first time around, and Schreiner only lost by two, so the coaching staff should have plenty to work on in the upcoming week.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 09, 2016, 03:17:24 PM
It's going to be an interesting tournament. From an Austin College standpoint, I'm never exactly sure what to expect. The 'Roos are still the only team to beat UT-Tyler this year and have also beaten Trinity on the road, but (and this isn't taking away from Schreiner, who is clearly, deservedly in the top half of the SCAC) is 0-2 against Schreiner this season. Sports are a funny thing.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 10, 2016, 01:07:18 PM
I think the tourney is wide open this year.   Schreiner, AC, TLU, and TU ... tourney's at Centenary this season so no home court advantage for any of the contenders.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 10, 2016, 02:37:38 PM
Alright, folks -- the NCAA's first women's basketball regional rankings are posted. Check out the full list from D3hoops.com:
http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2016/02/10/first-2016-regional-rankings-released-today/
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 15, 2016, 08:21:08 PM
Nice touch in yesterday's Senior Day game at Trinity as Anecia Richardson and Natalie DeWitt, both of whom had been injured earlier this season, were suited out, introduced in the starting lineup, and went out for the tip.   Centenary won the tip and immediately took a timeout to allow the two injured players (who can walk just fine, but not play ball) to be subbed out.    Thanks to the Centenary coaching staff for helping us honor these two who will be sorely missed in the postseason.

Without two of their normal starters, Trinity was in a battle early as the normally tepid three-point Ladies (26% on the season) hit half their threes led by Savannah Doty (4-6).   Fortunately for Trinity, Mollie Hughes (18 pts, 6 rebounds) kept the Tigers in the game before fouling out in 22 minutes.  Trinity went on a run in the third and led by double digits the rest of the way.   The 82-70 final gap could have been wider had Trinity been able to hit more than 5 of their 16 free throws (!!).

Trinity has to win at Schreiner on Saturday to clinch the regular season championship.    A loss would likely drop them into a tie with Austin (at home vs Dallas) with whom they split the regular season games, so it would be on to the next tiebreaker, whatever that might be.  If it's net points in the two games, Trinity outscored Austin by 1.

#3 and #4 seeds are up in the air with both TLU and Schriner currently having identical 9-4 records.  Southwestern is locked in at #5; the final spot goes to Dallas if they pull off the upset, otherwise it's a three way tie between Dallas, Colorado, and Centenary.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 15, 2016, 11:23:20 PM
Ron - FYI, Centenary is guaranteed a spot. The host school has an automatic spot in the SCAC tournament.

With regard to the top seed...if Trinity loses to Schreiner, and AC beats UD, then I'm honestly not sure how things will work out. The first tiebreaker is head to head; as you mentioned, they split. The second tiebreaker is record versus "top teams" in descending order. AC is 2-0 against TLU, Trinity is 1-1 against TLU; AC is 0-2 against Schreiner, and Trinity, in this scenario, would be 1-1 against Schreiner. Not sure if it's the two records combined, because then both teams would be 2-2 against the other two teams in the top half of the conference (Trinity and AC are both undefeated against every other team in the conference, again, in this scenario assuming AC beats UD).

The NEXT tiebreaker, if it gets to that, is common non-conference opponents. The only common non-conference opponent between AC and Trinity is UT-Tyler. AC is the only team to beat UTT this year. So, if Trinity loses to Schreiner, AC beats UD, and it gets to the third tiebreaker, AC would get the top seed.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 16, 2016, 12:29:30 PM
Scratch that - if Schreiner beats Trinity, and AC beats UD, creating a tie between Trinity and AC...it will come down to a coin toss to determine the top seed (since AC played UTT at home, and Trinity played them on the road, that common opponent cannot be used).

This is going to be a potentially crazy Saturday, folks!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 16, 2016, 03:16:50 PM
I had no idea you were guaranteed a spot if you hosted.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 19, 2016, 01:36:58 PM
Time for my semi-annual post here  ;)

Trinity remained undefeated with two wins at the PLU tournament, squeaking by formerly undefeated Puget Sound 68-65 before sprinting past host PLU 81-62.   First year Abby Holland led all players with 21 points and 7 rebounds in the latter, while Micah Weaver and Monica Holguin had 19 and 15, respectively, in the opener.  The 9-0 start is the best in program history.     The Tigers return home for two more games before the end of the year, Wednesday against Hanover, and on the 29th against George Fox (7-1), whose only loss was a one pointer at UPS. 

Austin College, Texas Lutheran, and the University of Dallas are all 6-2, so it's shaping up to be another interesting season in the SCAC.   Dallas (6-1 at the time) lost a shocker to then 1-8 Colorado College to open SCAC play last Friday. 

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on December 30, 2016, 02:45:44 PM
Austin College has gotten off to a pretty nice start at 7-3, just beating UT-Tyler the other day on a buzzer beater, on the road. They open up SCAC play with Centenary today, and host Hardin-Simmons tomorrow. So if the 'Roos get through these two, they head on the road to play Trinity next weekend. That'd be quite a showdown with AC at potentially 9-3 and Trinity undefeated. Always very good games between AC and Trinity. They split last year, Trinity won 3 times the year before, and AC won both meetings the year before that, so it's a 4-3 edge for Trinity head to head over the past three seasons.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 31, 2016, 06:02:40 PM
GAAH they play early (5:30) on Friday.   I may have to talk to my boss to leave work a little early, that's a game worth watching with AC now at 9-3 and Trinity 11-0 after getting past #15 George Fox in OT.    Probably have to take the toll road to have any chance of getting there on time.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on December 31, 2016, 06:50:11 PM
Just realized that AC is off to its best start (9-3) since the 2009-10 season, which was the year they went 18-8 and Katy Williams was named the SCAC Player of the Year. Interestingly, Katy is a volunteer assistant this year (her first year in that role). Coincidence? Well, probably. But funny that somehow she's been a part of each of the two best starts in the last decade.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 03, 2017, 01:58:41 PM
FYI: adding more fuel to this weekend's showdown between Trinity and AC, Trinity is now ranked #14 in the D3Hoops poll and #16 in the WBCA poll. AC, meanwhile, has jumped into the others receiving votes section of the WBCA poll, coming in at #29 overall. If they can pull off the upset and then win against Schreiner, they'd be almost certain to crack the top 25. But no pressure...
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 07, 2017, 10:56:57 AM
After a dreadful start (3/17 shooting in the opening stanza, full credit to the AC defense) the Trinity women upped their intensity and focus to get past Austin 67-54.    The Tigers held a 14-4 advantage in steals; this combined with a 25-9 advantage at the stripe helped overcome a 4-15 night from beyond the arc.   Elizabeth Balido came off the bench to lead all scorers with 22 points, adding 9 boards.   Mollie Hughes had 20 and 7, and Micah Weaver had 16 from the bench.   The 'Roos were lead by Kendall Heitmeier with 17 (3-7 from deep), Caitlyn Collins with 13 (3-4 from distance), and 12 points and 12 boards from the stalwart Bryce Frank. 

Of concern for the Tigers is a possible injury to Monica Holguin, scoreless in her 10 minutes but making 5 steals in that time.   After the last she was tripped up trying to go on the fast break, fell hard, and it took some time for her to come off the court, not to return.   Trinity had two senior starters suffer career-ending injuries last season and could do without another to one of this year's leaders.  Update:  Holguin started today against Centenary, so it wasn't serious.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 15, 2017, 08:43:59 PM
Looking awfully top-heavy in the SCAC standings now. TLU at 12-3/4-0, AC at 12-4/4-1, and Trinity, of course, at 14-1/3-1.

TLU and Austin College play on Friday night. It's not a given how anything will shake out but it's looking pretty clear those will be the top 3 seeds in some combination, setting up a potentially epic 2 vs 3 semifinal matchup, if it comes to that.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 18, 2017, 04:58:50 PM
Southwestern made things even more interesting by destroying TLU last night, 71-49.   
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 08, 2017, 04:35:40 PM
Three SCAC teams in the first regional rankings of the season (http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2017/02/women-regional-rankings-first).

(1) Trinity (20-1/9-1 SCAC)
(6) Texas Lutheran (17-5/9-2)
(7) Austin (16-6/8-3)

Big game in Sherman as Austin hosts Trinity Friday night.   A win gives Trinity upper hand at the top seed in the upcoming SCAC championships (with two games against surprising Schreiner next week).   A loss drops them back into a tie with TLU. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 12, 2017, 09:49:47 AM
Trinity won close games at Austin and Centenary (having to come from six points down in the fourth to do so).   TLU also won, so unless SW can repeat their unusual effort against the Bulldogs next week, the regular season championship will come down to Trinity's two games against Schreiner.   

Micah Weaver (14.7ppg/5.0 rpg) only played 9 minutes against Centenary, and Abby Holland, who has made a huge contribution in her first collegiate season (11.5 ppg/5.4 rpg in 23.4 mpg), didn't play in either game this weekend.   Grace Horn scored a season high 16 (on 7/9) to spark the win against the Ladies.   Horn was averaging 1.5 ppg with a season high of 7 points.   
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 16, 2017, 08:24:22 PM
Trinity wins the first of two against Schreiner in Kerrville to clinch a tie for the regular-season championship, 82-72.   Live stats died with about a minute left; Monica Holguin had 30 at that point and Micah Weaver 22.   Abby Holland did not play.    A win on Saturday will give the Tigers the #1 seed for next weekend's tourney. 

update:  per box score Holguin had 31 and Weaver 24.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 21, 2017, 01:11:24 PM
The SCAC announced that Johnson and Wales - Denver will join the conference in 2018-19 as they transition from NAIA to D3.   They currently offer women's/men's basketball with about eight other sports and are looking to add more.   This will help uncomplicate the travel situation which has seen schools forced to go from Colorado Springs to Sherman, TX in a weekend.   
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 21, 2017, 04:51:12 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 21, 2017, 01:11:24 PM
The SCAC announced that Johnson and Wales - Denver will join the conference in 2018-19 as they transition from NAIA to D3.   They currently offer women's/men's basketball with about eight other sports and are looking to add more.   This will help uncomplicate the travel situation which has seen schools forced to go from Colorado Springs to Sherman, TX in a weekend.
Yay!  Logical! 

Who will be the Travel Partners then?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 21, 2017, 06:54:41 PM
My instinct is that it might stay the same for Schreiner/TLU/Southwestern/Trinity, and that obviously CC and JW will pair off. That leaves AC/UD/Centenary. Gut feeling is it'll be AC and Centenary, and while there are only 9 teams, UD will be the loner since they're in Dallas so they're at the easiest travel hub and centralized in the conference, until another school comes in.

Just pure speculation at this point.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 21, 2017, 11:34:27 PM
Conference said today they're actively seeking a tenth member.   Not having to find a football school probably gives some options they may not have had before, and the next school being the tenth (and making travel/scheduling easier) probably doesn't hurt, either.   May not find one, but have to give the SCAC honchos credit for finding a way to ease the island CC has been on all these years.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 22, 2017, 06:49:01 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 21, 2017, 11:34:27 PM
Conference said today they're actively seeking a tenth member.   Not having to find a football school probably gives some options they may not have had before, and the next school being the tenth (and making travel/scheduling easier) probably doesn't hurt, either.   May not find one, but have to give the SCAC honchos credit for finding a way to ease the island CC has been on all these years.

I don't know anything about MUW in Mississippi - do they have the academic standing to be a potential member?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 22, 2017, 12:31:39 PM
I looked at MUW earlier in the week on the women's soccer board.   They have no sports whatsoever this year, starting six total teams next year, and it's a 5 1/2 hour drive from Centenary.   In the past the conference hasn't taken on schools with a limited number of sports, and that would be a long drive (though less than the Colo Springs -> Sherman one the conference has today).   It's also a public college with a very modest endowment; the SCAC schools are private and have substantially larger endowments.  I think they would fit better in the ASC than the SCAC or the SAA. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 26, 2017, 03:58:23 PM
Trailing 31-19 with five minutes remaining in the first half of the SCAC championship final, Trinity put together a dominant defensive stretch over the next 13 minutes to lead TLU by eight at 49-41.  The Bulldogs closed to within three with under a minute left in the quarter before tournament MVP Allison Staley tossed in a three as the quarter ended.    TLU scored the first point of the fourth quarter but would be unable to close any further before falling 78-67.

On a day when their three all-SCAC performers struggled with fouls for the first three quarters, Trinity would get 17 points and 5 boards from Allison Staley plus 15 and 5 (4 offensive) from Elizabeth Balido.   Monica Holguin came on strong late to add 13 and 6, and Grace Horn added 9 unexpected points to go with 7 assists.   The Tigers improve to 26-1 and most ctertainly should host the first two rounds next week (and hopefully Puget Sound, whose only loss of the season before yesterday was to Trinity, isn't forced to come to San Antonio).
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 27, 2017, 08:24:27 AM
... and I see the d3hoops brain trust has Trinity going to UT-Dallas to save the NCAA one plane trip.   God, this gets old after a while. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 27, 2017, 08:25:22 AM
It didn't feel very good putting it together, either.   :-\
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 27, 2017, 10:26:18 AM
Definitely not shooting the messengers, Pat.    At least not until this afternoon when the AA are the announcers  ;)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 02, 2017, 06:56:49 PM
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Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 02, 2017, 09:09:20 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 22, 2017, 06:49:01 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 21, 2017, 11:34:27 PM
Conference said today they're actively seeking a tenth member.   Not having to find a football school probably gives some options they may not have had before, and the next school being the tenth (and making travel/scheduling easier) probably doesn't hurt, either.   May not find one, but have to give the SCAC honchos credit for finding a way to ease the island CC has been on all these years.

I don't know anything about MUW in Mississippi - do they have the academic standing to be a potential member?
MUW is in the middle of nowhere!

(At least the ASC continues to honor decades of loyalty to intercollegiate athletics at its charter member, Sul Ross State.)

It is another 2.5 hours east from Belhaven to get to Columbus Mississippi. (ASC)
MUW is 2 hours east of Rust College.
MUW is about 3 hours southeast of Memphis (Rhodes) SAA
MUW is  3 hours northwest of Montgomery (Huntingdon). (USA South)
MUW is 4 hours southwest of Sewanee! SAA
MUW is 5 hours southeast of Conway AR (Hendrix   SAA).

MUW is not a member of the Association of Colleges of the South (almost a prerequisite for the SAA).
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 04, 2017, 10:28:26 PM
Congrats Trinity!  Win another Championship for you and for Texas!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 05, 2017, 04:08:08 PM
Two good games ... in both cases Trinity jumped out to early lead only to be reeled back in early/mid Q3 by their opponent.   Major gut check time for a team that had gone 10+ years without a post-season win (!) but in both cases the Tigers focused their defense and got enough offense to earn the win.   Micah Weaver was incredible in the Hendrix game with 31 points, tying a team season high.   In the second game, it took Trinity a while to figure how to deal with CMS' height (all starters except PG 5'10" or taller) and especially with two players, senior C Aly Young (17 points of the bench in 21 minutes) and freshman F Maya Love (8 rebounds, 7 offensive to go with 14 points in 19 minutes).    It's not a stretch to say those two kept CMS in the game until about the three minute mark (Love had four offensive boards in the fourth quarter alone).  Trinity started double- and occasionally triple-teaming Young, who was otherwise unstoppable inside, and were able to rotate back fast enough to keep the Athenas from getting open shot opportunities.   Trinity got 17 from both Weaver (mostly late) and Mollie Hughes, and Monica Holguin also delivered in the clutch with 13 points and a season-high ten assists (five of which came in the final stanza). 

Whitman (25-4) will be a tough opponent in the sectionals.   They've both played Puget Sound with Whitman going 2-1 and Trinity 1-0; those are the only losses UPS suffered all season.   Whitman was also 3-1 against George Fox, Trinity, 1-0.   Neither team has lost outside of their respective conferences. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 05, 2017, 04:15:49 PM
One other observation from the Hendrix-Trinity game.  Early on Weaver had missed a couple of shots, was up at the free throw line, and a Hendrix supporter, eschewing all the pre-game talk from the announcer about sportsmanship, started mouthing off insults like "I hope you shoot free throws better than you do jumpers".  Yeah, she did, 10-11 from the line was better than 9-16 from the floor and 3-4 from beyond the arc.   Thanks for the encouragement, random Hendrix supporter!    ;D
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 10, 2017, 07:22:39 PM
Trinity trailing Whitman 30-29 at half despite shooting 31% and being outrebounded 29-18.   Pressure keeping TU close as Whitman's turned it over 9 times to TU's 4.

St Thomas announcers saying that both teams are equally guilty of turning the ball over at the half.   Look at your stat sheet, guys.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 10, 2017, 08:20:44 PM
Whitman wins by 10 after a huge performance on the glass, outrebounding Trinity 58-33.   Monica Holguin closes her career with 15 points and 10 rebounds on a night when the Tigers simply could not buy a bucket (31.9%, 25.0% from beyond the arc).     Next year will be tough as the team loses a great deal of senior leadership, but with Micah Weaver (a rising senior) and Abby Holland (rising soph) the cupboard will not be empty. 

Edit:  the 58 rebounds for Whitman were their season high.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 13, 2017, 10:04:25 AM
Ironically, Saturday night Whitman lost to St Thomas after shooting even worse (27.4%) and managing 0-15 from beyond the arc.   Emily Rommel, who constantly got open inside against Trinity (16 pts despite 4-11 from the charity stripe), was 1-6 for 2 points (0 FTs) before fouling out in 18 minutes.   The Tommies had a lot to do with Whitman's performance but it sure would have been nice to see some of that a night earlier.   Such is life. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 19, 2017, 10:39:17 AM
Thanks to the d3hoops.com voters who yesterday named Monica Holguin Second Team All-America.   

Monica actually does have a year of eligibility remaining (or so it appears) should she wish to pursue graduate work.   A guy can hope  ;) but I don't think it's in the cards. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on March 19, 2017, 02:55:24 PM
The Powers that Be let one slip and chose someone from the South to be an All-American.  Not so for the men.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 19, 2017, 04:51:29 PM
Quote from: scottiedoug on March 19, 2017, 02:55:24 PM
The Powers that Be let one slip and chose someone from the South to be an All-American.  Not so for the men.

Hardin-Simmons' Nathaniel Jack was also named Second Team AA.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on March 20, 2017, 10:55:38 AM
Sorry I missed that.  My point remains, however.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 20, 2017, 12:33:09 PM
Quote from: scottiedoug on March 20, 2017, 10:55:38 AM
Sorry I missed that.  My point remains, however.

What in the world is your point?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 20, 2017, 01:03:28 PM
Quote from: scottiedoug on March 20, 2017, 10:55:38 AM
Sorry I missed that.  My point remains, however.

It remains inaccurate, sure.

Scottie -- I know you love your Maryville and USA South, but that conference is really far down the pecking order and is not a national contender right now. Going to have to get better to earn the at-large bids and postseason honors you want.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on March 21, 2017, 10:21:55 AM
I know that the USA South is what it is and is not. It is very hard for D3 programs to compete with all the scholarship choices players have in the southeast.  Lots of D2 programs lurking around with money to give out!

Does that mean that there are nearly no players in D3 in the South who are All Americans?  Could be, and Pat and Dave, who see national competition, are in a better position than I am to know....

I still think Maryville's women were worthy of a bid....
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 21, 2017, 11:00:43 AM
Quote from: scottiedoug on March 21, 2017, 10:21:55 AM
I know that the USA South is what it is and is not. It is very hard for D3 programs to compete with all the scholarship choices players have in the southeast.  Lots of D2 programs lurking around with money to give out!

Does that mean that there are nearly no players in D3 in the South who are All Americans?  Could be, and Pat and Dave, who see national competition, are in a better position than I am to know....

I still think Maryville's women were worthy of a bid....

FYI - there are D2s around a lot of D3 programs in this country and I can't tell you how many teams either have players who had D2 choices and choose D3... OR transferred out of D2 to a D3 school. Heck, the two teams playing for a national championship in men's basketball this year had D2 transfers and players who decided D3 was a better choice. So the south's "challenge" of having D2s is not unique. As a result, there has to be better reasons for the struggles, because I hear the same comments from the northwest, New Jersey, the northeast, the midwest, etc... but we still see teams get talent and we still see teams compete.

As for the Maryville comment... bid to the tournament or bid for All-America? Bid to the tournament is worth a conversation. However, they were there at the end without the criteria to get in (accordingly to the committee). They need to improve the out of conference schedule a hair, most likely, and not take unnecessary losses in conference to be in a better position (per this year's criteria info).

If it is about All-American opportunities on either set of teams... not sure what I can tell you. That was a very difficult list this year. There were a LOT of players left off who deserved to be there. Heck, both men and women's teams had second-teamers who had arguments to be first-teamers, but there wasn't enough room.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 21, 2017, 06:28:04 PM
Selecting 25 A-A players from 400 teams ain't easy. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on March 22, 2017, 12:28:13 PM
My comment was about the tournament bid.  We know the role of scheduling and not losing games!  Maryville scheduled and beat some teams that in previous years had had good records and would have helped the SOS if they had performed as "expected."  Still, you need to win (although the only loss to an average team record-wise was a tournament loss to Wittenburg and the conference losses were to Piedmont and Ferrum, the other best teams in the USASouth. And they scheduled Thomas More on purpose.

Dave, any ideas about the current decline in the southeast...even the supposedly mighty ODAC was not its usual self.  I know it has for a long time been the case that the South generally has not competed in D3 at the top level. Too much pork in the diet?

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 22, 2017, 03:28:36 PM
scottiedoug - I don't agree with the decline comment. The ODAC women are actually far more competitive now then they have been. That has usually been a one-bid league and this year got two in... easily. I think there is more competition.

On the men's side, things are down for sure, but I think it will be temporary. These things go in waves. Look at the WIAC... down for a year or two and should come roaring back next year in men's basketball.

I wouldn't put much stock in things being "down." That said, it isn't like the South has every been like the Northeast or Central. But look to the Mid-Atlantic to see how things that have been down for years is now surged back into the national conversation.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on March 23, 2017, 10:49:55 AM
So is it possible to determine why these swings happen?  It also is the case in D1, of course. New coaches? I am not a big fan of the idea that things "just happen," but have no other explanations.

I appreciate your role in D3Hoops.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 23, 2017, 11:50:44 AM
Oh I think recruiting goes in waves. I think when some teams have had a number of players in previous years, future recruits may not be interested because they don't see opportunities to play while another team with less recruits have more opportunities (not true across the board, but I have seen waves at schools like that).

New coaches affects a lot. Where their high schools "point" their students has an affect (and that changes often). Influences on high school students as well including their families, where they want to go, etc.

I think the biggest thing as well is that there is more talent out there and thus there are more options especially in Division III women's basketball. I will never forget Nancy Fahey saying to me after I asked her why it seemed harded to win national titles for the Bears now versus then - "there are a lot more talented girls playing basketball now." In other words, more talent at more schools. As a result, there are more options and recruits are constantly looking around. Also I think there is far more awareness of Division III schools outside of the immediate "area" for many. There are numerous reasons for that, but the key being players may be more aware of schools further away and thus schools don't have the same area to pull players from because they are looking elsewhere.

If the South remains "down" for a few more seasons, than I think more is going on. If they return, then the wave idea is more prevalent.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on May 03, 2017, 05:49:17 PM
New story on Trinity rising senior Micah Weaver:   https://new.trinity.edu/news/driving-court

Also answers the (unlikely) question as to Monica Holguin returning (she has a year of eligibility remaining):  "Despite losing five seniors, Hill has recruited six rising first-years, all "really good" in Weaver's estimation."   There were exactly five seniors on this year's roster.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 04, 2017, 12:28:40 PM
I'm not sure I'd take that as the final word. It's a throwaway line by someone who might not know the details.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on May 05, 2017, 04:39:16 PM
Well, I'd be thrilled to be wrong ...

In other Monica Holguin news, her jersey is going to be on display at the Women's Basketball Hall of Fame's "Ring of Honor":

https://twitter.com/joe_shot/status/860185246158999553
 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on October 19, 2017, 05:37:29 PM
Well with the new season getting closer and closer to kicking off now that practice has been underway for nearly a week...

I'm going to make my bold prediction: this will be the year Austin College breaks into the Top 25. They return almost everyone, and brought in a very, very strong recruiting class. Plus: Bryce Frank worked extremely hard in the offseason, particularly on her shooting, so her midrange game should be better, as should her free throw shooting. I wouldn't be surprised to see an 18 and 12 season from her this year.

Looking forward to the season getting underway!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 13, 2017, 09:28:59 PM
Trinity almost knocked off another D1 team to start the season, falling 62-57 at UT-Rio Grande Valley this weekend.  Micah Weaver had 23 for Trinity; Abby Holland had 12 and Mollie Hughes 11.  Trinity led most of the way before falling late; RGV took the lead for good with 1:01 remaining.  The Tigers outshot their D1 opponent 44-36%, posted an 18-10 assist advantage, and turned the ball over 21 times to the host's 26 (with a 16-10 advantage in steals).   The Islanders Vaqueros won the rebound battle by a sizable margin, 39-24.    A 27-7 disparity at the free throw line in favor of the locals didn't help, either.

Edit: not at RGV but in an event at TAMU-Corpus Christi.   

As seems to be typical the D1 team counts this result while the D3 school marks it as exhibition.   
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 14, 2017, 09:42:49 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on November 13, 2017, 09:28:59 PM
As seems to be typical the D1 team counts this result while the D3 school marks it as exhibition.

Yes considering the D1 schedule has started and D3's has not. D1 doesn't have the same rules as D3 in terms of these games. Everything basically counts once the season starts in D1.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on November 15, 2017, 01:51:47 PM
Could be a good one in Richardson tonight. Austin College opens up at UTD. The Comets have always seemed to be the team that AC just can't quite get over the hump against, so it'll be a good chance for the 'Roos to measure themselves up to a potentially strong team.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 15, 2017, 02:25:06 PM
Just an FYI - Austin is dealing with the death of a player over the weekend. Wonder where their emotions will be tonight: http://www.acroos.com/sports/mbkb/2017-18/releases/20171111h72yk9
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on November 15, 2017, 03:14:55 PM
Yep. The AC men open up at LeTourneau tonight, so in addition to playing an excellent team, they've got that weighing on them. I can't even imagine.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on December 03, 2017, 12:10:20 AM
Ok, now THERE'S the Austin College team I was expecting to see in the preseason. Granted, 3 of their 4 losses have come against two teams that are a combined 10-1. But the 'Roos got the upset win against #13 WashU tonight, on WashU's home court. Bryce Frank with 30 and 15. She scored 28 of her 30 points in the second and third quarters as AC completely dominated those middle two quarters to come from an early double-digit deficit.

EDIT: Actually just looked, and the fourth loss doesn't look so bad right now, either. Hendrix is 6-1, so the four losses have come against three teams that are a combined 16-2, with three of the four losses coming on the road (plus, AC beat Hendrix by 15 at home).
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 04, 2017, 01:16:55 PM
Bryce Frank was a beast last year and even moreso this year.  Jan 20th should be a good one ... as should Jan 28 :)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 07, 2017, 07:40:49 PM
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Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on December 28, 2017, 05:46:17 PM
Five straight wins for Austin College to close out the non-conference portion of the schedule. I'm sure the 'Roos would love to have one or two games back of their four losses, but 7-4 heading into conference play isn't a bad spot with wins over WashU and UT-Tyler on the resume. Should be an interesting conference season. Obviously someone might come up and surprise, but right now it's certainly looking like it's heading for a Trinity/Austin College showdown to determine the conference champ.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 19, 2018, 11:06:25 AM
First showdown of the conference powers tomorrow night as the very impressive Roos (12-0 12-4, 5-0 SCAC) take on Trinity (11-2, 4-0) at 6.   AC is outscoring conference opponents by nearly 30 ppg to Trinity's 24 ppg margin.   
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 20, 2018, 09:08:32 PM
I think tonight made it pretty clear why Micah Weaver and Bryce Frank are pretty much head and shoulders above everyone else in the race for SCAC Player of the Year. 42 points, 10 boards, 6 assists for Micah and 32 points, 15 boards, and 6 assists for Bryce. Next week in Sherman should be a good one and will almost certainly decide the regular season championship.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 20, 2018, 10:41:38 PM
Quote from: jekelish on January 20, 2018, 09:08:32 PM
I think tonight made it pretty clear why Micah Weaver and Bryce Frank are pretty much head and shoulders above everyone else in the race for SCAC Player of the Year. 42 points, 10 boards, 6 assists for Micah and 32 points, 15 boards, and 6 assists for Bryce. Next week in Sherman should be a good one and will almost certainly decide the regular season championship.

It took a school record-tying performance by Micah (15-20 FG) to get past AC tonight.   Going to need a much more balanced attack next week for Trinity to have success again in Sherman.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 23, 2018, 11:11:15 AM
Both Weaver and Frank were named to the D3hoops.com ToTW (http://www.d3hoops.com/awards/tow/2017-18/week7).
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 26, 2018, 08:19:15 AM
Local station KTEN reported on AC's season and this weekend's rematch with Trinity:  http://www.kten.com/story/37350919/austin-college-lady-roos-prep-for-big-weekend-test
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 28, 2018, 05:16:16 PM
Austin College gets the 79-70 win today in Sherman. Addison Walling with 20 points and Bryce Frank with 20 and 18 for Austin College. Micah Weaver with 20 for Trinity.

I'd say we're almost certainly headed for a rubber match in Colorado Springs for the championship, barring something somewhat shocking.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 29, 2018, 10:24:48 AM
Agreed ...
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 05, 2018, 01:05:28 PM
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Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 07, 2018, 10:54:52 AM
It'll be interesting to see where Austin College and Trinity are in these first region rankings. Split head to head, both beat their common opponent (UT-Tyler), but the 'Roos have a significantly higher SOS and have that WashU road win, so it certainly SEEMS like they'd be slightly ahead of the Tigers based on those factors. Not that it will really matter, as the two teams are so evenly matched this year that their regional ranking could be pretty much interchangeable. I'm just as curious to see who will be #1 in the region... would imagine it'll probably be either UT-Dallas or UMHB, with perhaps a slight edge going to UMHB since they won the head to head meeting.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 07, 2018, 12:49:55 PM
Not sure how much the WashU game will factor in right now. That will be a key game come Week 2 when vRRO (results versus regionally ranked opponents) is considered... IF WashU is regionally ranked this week as well.

Trinity didn't play WashU, so it isn't a comparable game. It might come into play in other ways, but I am not sure it would this week.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 07, 2018, 02:39:03 PM
Women's first regional rankings of the season are out: http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2018/02/women-regional-rankings-first
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 12, 2018, 02:55:14 PM
Looking over the numbers, I don't envy the coaches trying to pick conference POTY and this is one of the few instances where I could 100% see a Co-POTY being appropriate given how close Micah Weaver and Bryce Frank are.

Teams will most likely both be 13-1 in conference with 20+ wins.

Micah: 1st in PPG, 2nd in FG%, 4th in 3PT%, 4th in FT%, 3rd in APG, 15th in RPG, 1st in SPG, 15th in BPG
Bryce: 2nd in PPG, 1st in FG%, 3PT n/a, 5th in FT%, 4th in APG, 1st in RPG, 13th in SPG, 11th in BPG

I don't remember a SCAC POTY race ever being this close as long as I've been following the conference. Plus they've both been SCAC POTW four times, and D3Hoops TOTW multiple times each if I'm not mistaken. Good luck with that one, coaches!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 13, 2018, 03:19:19 PM
Especially given that the balloting occurs prior to the SCAC tournament.   If they waited until afterwards you could see the player on the championship team having a slight leg up.

Coach of the Year should easily go to Michelle Filander.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 14, 2018, 03:10:48 PM
New women's regional rankings: http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2018/02/women-regional-rankings-second
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 17, 2018, 10:17:14 PM
As expected, Austin College and Trinity each take care of business this week to finish 13-1 in the SCAC, and for the second time in three years the top seed in the tournament comes down to a (soon-to-be-conducted) coin flip.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 18, 2018, 04:41:27 PM
IMO it makes little difference, but Trinity won the flip:  https://twitter.com/SCAC_Sports/status/965269976591585280

I'm really surprised they don't do this on H2H point differential (which AC would have won) or some other objective measure.

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 18, 2018, 05:00:23 PM
Certainly agree that it probably doesn't make much difference. AC likely gets the 3-seed, but Trinity likely gets the host team on their own court. I feel like that balances out pretty well (and also assume both Trinity and AC will take care of business on Saturday night).
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 19, 2018, 09:46:38 AM
The tie-breakers the SCAC used are laid out in this post:  http://www.scacsports.com/sports/mbkb/2017-18/releases/18bracket_announced

1. head-to-head match-ups (W/L)
2. other losses in league play, team with better record against league opponents from top to bottom (W/L)
3. results against common opponents (W/L)
4. coin toss

Given that the conference has had to use this coin flip twice in three years, they should look at quality of results (point differentials), not just quantity of wins/losses.   

Seeding for the CC tourney is
1) Trinity (13-1 SCAC; 21-3 overall)
2) Austin College (13-1 SCAC; 20-5 overall)
3) Southwestern (8-6 SCAC; 12-13 overall)
4) Colorado College (6-8 SCAC; 9-16 overall)
5) Centenary (5-9 overall; 8-17 overall)
6) Schreiner (4-10 overall; 6-19 overall) [got the nod over TLU in the third tiebreaker]

CC and Centenary, SW and Schreiner play in the first round; Trinity gets CC/Centenary winner, AC the SW/Schreiner victor.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 21, 2018, 03:03:38 PM
The NCAA released the third set of women's basketball regional rankings with few changes from last week's version. This is the final set that we'll see before the Tournament bracket is released on Monday. Full list here: http://d3hoops.com/notables/2018/02/women-regional-rankings-third

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Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 24, 2018, 11:24:16 PM
Someone forgot to tell Colorado College and Southwestern they had no chance today.

CC came back from a double digit deficit and had a chance to tie late before finally falling to Trinity, 76-70.

SW did CC one better and not only took Austin to OT but had the upset of the tournament (so far), winning 81-79.   Both teams had chances to win in regulation, each missing a layup late.   Southwestern led by two late in OT, missed two FTs with 0:06 left, with Austin going for the win but missing a three as time expired.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 24, 2018, 11:38:08 PM
Southwestern had a 29-9 FT advantage in that game.   Wow.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 24, 2018, 11:40:08 PM
Color me stunned. I'll give it to Southwestern, every time AC seemed to be pulling away, Southwestern had an answer, and they got the job done when they needed to.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 24, 2018, 11:56:14 PM
Bryce Frank and Micah Weaver were named SCAC co-Players of the Year.   Good call.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 02, 2018, 10:19:43 PM
Trinity trailing UT-D 30-26 at the half after being down 22-13 earlier.  Getting basically nothing from Micah Weaver + Abby Holland (0 and 5 pts respectively) so if can turn that around could have more success in 2nd half.   
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 02, 2018, 11:14:58 PM
Micah Weaver scored 19 points in the second half (and Abby Holland ended up with 15) but it wasn't enough as the home-standing UT-D Comets put an end to Trinity's season 79-70.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 17, 2018, 08:42:18 PM
Congratulations to D3hoops.com All-Americans Micah Weaver (3rd team) and Bryce Frank (4th team).  There are so many women's teams in Division III, being named to any AA team is a huge achievement.   Both were also named honorable mention AA by WBCA (they only name a first team and honorable mentions) as well as first-team All-South by D3hoops.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on March 18, 2018, 10:49:52 AM
Very well deserved by both. Micah is a terrific player, and I look forward to seeing what Bryce can do her senior year. Austin College returns virtually their entire roster (the only significant loss is Meghan Lewis, the SCAC DPOTY), so they have a chance for a really special season next year.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on October 18, 2018, 08:34:50 AM
Hey, it's a new season.   Welcome jekelish and anyone else who might wander in here. 

Trinity finally posted their roster.  Two seniors (G Rachel Chavez the most prominent), two juniors, one a transfer (more on that momentarily), five sophs (many of whom saw good PT last year) and a herd of newcomers.  Junior Abby Holland returns and will be expected to play a larger role this season with the departure of Micah Weaver; the other junior, 6'3" C Anna Muller, is a transfer from Rhodes who sat out all of last year for the Lynx with an injury.  Muller (a two-time Class A all-state player in SC) saw some playing time as a freshman; if she's healthy, a lineup with her at C would allow Abby to move out to PF which would seem to be a better fit. 

Austin is probably and deservedly the favorite this season and it should be fun to see how things shake out after that.  Coach Hill got a lot from his first-years last season and will have to do the same again this year. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on October 18, 2018, 09:34:20 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on October 18, 2018, 08:34:50 AM
Hey, it's a new season.   Welcome jekelish and anyone else who might wander in here. 

Trinity finally posted their roster.  Two seniors (G Rachel Chavez the most prominent), two juniors, one a transfer (more on that momentarily), five sophs (many of whom saw good PT last year) and a herd of newcomers.  Junior Abby Holland returns and will be expected to play a larger role this season with the departure of Micah Weaver; the other junior, 6'3" C Anna Muller, is a transfer from Rhodes who sat out all of last year for the Lynx with an injury.  Muller (a two-time Class A all-state player in SC) saw some playing time as a freshman; if she's healthy, a lineup with her at C would allow Abby to move out to PF which would seem to be a better fit. 

Austin is probably and deservedly the favorite this season and it should be fun to see how things shake out after that.  Coach Hill got a lot from his first-years last season and will have to do the same again this year.

I know about 1 of the newcomers - Kelly Simmons - who played up here in MD until moving to Texas her senior high school year. She's a quality player, probably best as PF, although it looks like she grew an inch or 2(now listed as 6-1).
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on October 18, 2018, 12:51:02 PM
Quote from: ronk on October 18, 2018, 09:34:20 AM

I know about 1 of the newcomers - Kelly Simmons - who played up here in MD until moving to Texas her senior high school year. She's a quality player, probably best as PF, although it looks like she grew an inch or 2(now listed as 6-1).

Hey Ron, welcome, +1, and thanks for the tip.  I see Kelly was also named second-team 4A/3A all-state in MD as a sophomore and was once named Player of the Week while at Antonian by the San Antonio Express-News.   She should have a chance to contribute immediately. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on October 18, 2018, 02:53:57 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on October 18, 2018, 08:34:50 AM
Hey, it's a new season.   Welcome jekelish and anyone else who might wander in here. 

Trinity finally posted their roster.  Two seniors (G Rachel Chavez the most prominent), two juniors, one a transfer (more on that momentarily), five sophs (many of whom saw good PT last year) and a herd of newcomers.  Junior Abby Holland returns and will be expected to play a larger role this season with the departure of Micah Weaver; the other junior, 6'3" C Anna Muller, is a transfer from Rhodes who sat out all of last year for the Lynx with an injury.  Muller (a two-time Class A all-state player in SC) saw some playing time as a freshman; if she's healthy, a lineup with her at C would allow Abby to move out to PF which would seem to be a better fit. 

Austin is probably and deservedly the favorite this season and it should be fun to see how things shake out after that.  Coach Hill got a lot from his first-years last season and will have to do the same again this year.

I'm really interested to see how this season shakes out. Trinity obviously has some quality players (I was very impressed with Emily Daniel last year in particular), but I'll be curious to see how they perform without Micah, who was legitimately one of the best players I've watched in the time I've been viewing SCAC games.

Austin College brings back virtually everyone from last year. The biggest loss is Meghan Lewis, who didn't really bring much offensively but was the team's leader and conference defensive player of the year. I'm expecting to see a big jump from the sophomore class, in particular Addison Walling. And, obviously Bryce Frank is back for her senior year, and I fully expect her to repeat her All-America caliber year, if not improve on it a bit.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on November 10, 2018, 01:37:31 AM
Weird game for Austin College. Led most of the game, but just couldn't quite pull away from Howard Payne, largely due to some pretty sloppy play (24 turnovers). But Bryce Frank did Bryce Frank things and had 23 and 14 (she started 1-5, and then proceeded to make her next 10 shots) and Ann Savage hit a big three late to seal it. Have to assume the 'Roos will clean things up in the turnover department, considering they were second in the conference in fewest turnovers-per-game last season and have essentially the same roster this year.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 13, 2018, 01:19:23 PM
I didn't see the game, but not only did Trinity get to play just about everyone in an easy opening win (91-73) against Concordia, but they got 24 points from an unexpected source, first-year C Hailey Coleman, who started, saw 22 minutes of action, and was 11-15 from the floor.   That will bear watching as the season progresses. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on November 24, 2018, 09:25:58 AM
Measuring stick game for Austin College today as they host UT-Dallas, which is the one program that the 'Roos just haven't been able to beat in recent years. In fact, the 'Roos haven't beaten the Comets since November 28, 2012.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on November 24, 2018, 06:21:25 PM
'Roos win 60-57 with Bryce Frank scoring 23 and grabbing 10 boards. Man, when UTD gets Victoria Pena back, they're going to be awfully legit. They've got a good team, and Polly is a terrific coach.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on December 01, 2018, 09:20:53 AM
Tough one for the 'Roos last night. Credit to Millsaps, they rebounded and hit shots when they needed to, and AC just couldn't get anything going offensively. There's a reason Millsaps is 6-1, but still a disappointing result.

December's going to be awfully tough, too... tomorrow at 5-0 Rhodes, 12/13 at 7-0 Hardin-Simmons, then 12/15 against Hendrix, 12/18 against Trinity, 12/19 at Dallas, and 12/29 at UMHB.

That's a heck of a tough run of games. Dallas, right now, looks like the only game that should definitely be a win... everything else will be a battle.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on December 17, 2018, 04:37:25 PM
Big game in Sherman tomorrow as Trinity comes to town. Austin College really got things rolling on Saturday in a 41-point win over Hendrix, a couple days after beating Hardin-Simmons by 14. If the 'Roos can get through this week, it sets up one heck of a game at UMHB at the end of the month.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: gordonmann on December 17, 2018, 10:52:48 PM
Austin moves back into the Top 25 btw.

https://www.d3hoops.com/top25/women/2018-19/week4

This ranking makes more sense to me given that Austin has fewer losses than E&H.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on December 18, 2018, 09:11:59 PM
That was a fairly strange game between Austin College and Trinity. Only 12 points in the first half for Trinity, and 10 in the fourth, but they went absolutely nuts in the third (8-of-11 on threes, 30 points) to keep things close. 'Roos with a nine point win in a game when they pretty well dominated three of four quarters.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 20, 2018, 01:28:40 PM
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Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 27, 2018, 10:52:25 AM
I don't see anyone challenging AC in the SCAC this year.   Too many strong, experienced players for the 'Roos.   
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on December 29, 2018, 07:48:37 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on December 27, 2018, 10:52:25 AM
I don't see anyone challenging AC in the SCAC this year.   Too many strong, experienced players for the 'Roos.

If they play the way they're capable of playing, I agree with you. Trinity has some very solid players and will no doubt win 10+ games in conference play, but no Micah or Monica to carry them if they begin to struggle or fall behind. That said, I feel like they and Colorado College in particular could surprise the 'Roos on an off night, the same way Millsaps caught AC on a bad night and knocked them off. Anything can happen on any given day... but overall, yeah: if AC plays to their potential and takes care of the ball, they have a realistic shot at running the table in the conference this season.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 06, 2019, 01:16:40 PM
I'll be very curious to see if AC stays in the Top 25 this week. Went 4-1 since the last poll with the only loss coming on the road at UMHB, who very well might jump up into the top 10. And with, if I'm not mistaken, four teams between #16 and #24 having suffered two losses since the last poll, I'm hoping they can hang around at the end of the Top 25. Emory and Henry looks like the only team that's a lock to enter the Top 25 this week so I'm crossing my fingers. Only two losses for AC are to teams who are a combined 25-2 right now, and they previously beat one of those teams as well.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 23, 2019, 11:52:14 AM
I have no idea what is going on in the SCAC.  AC handles Trinity fairly easily, loses to SW in 2OT, then Trinity beats SW in Georgetown by almost 30 last night, toying with them after a sloppy second half of the first quarter.   Guess we just have to wait until next month when the Roos and Trinity match up again in San Antonio.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 28, 2019, 10:57:17 AM
And then Trinity loses at TLU despite taking 25 more shots ... due to TLU shooting 58% to Trinity's 32%.   TLU was up by 20 just before the break; Tigers closed to within 2 late, missed a game-tying three at the end.    Other interesting stat of the night:  Trinity only had 9 assists on their 24 made shots (to 21-29 for TLU).
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 30, 2019, 01:51:30 PM
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Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 30, 2019, 09:17:59 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on January 28, 2019, 10:57:17 AM
And then Trinity loses at TLU despite taking 25 more shots ... due to TLU shooting 58% to Trinity's 32%.   TLU was up by 20 just before the break; Tigers closed to within 2 late, missed a game-tying three at the end.    Other interesting stat of the night:  Trinity only had 9 assists on their 24 made shots (to 21-29 for TLU).

It's going to be very, very interesting to see Trinity and AC on Friday. AC hasn't been shooting the ball all that well from three, but Bryce Frank has had arguably her most dominant stretch of the year over the last four games. The 'Roos really need someone to step up and start connecting from three and to limit turnovers, though, especially playing on the road. It's been really interesting to see how Trinity has been able to put up such big scoring numbers despite the scoring load being shared so widely across their roster.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 03, 2019, 09:50:43 AM
Another one that could have gone either way, two point game until under three minutes and Trinity hit most of their FTs down the stretch when AC couldn't convert.  Good time for Abby Holland to have her first (!) double-double of the season with 28 & 12 (plus six steals). 

So now we have three teams with two losses, AC, TU, and the rabbit-out-of-a-hat TLU.  Mel Dixon always does a great job getting the best out of his student-athletes.   TLU is at Dallas, home to Southwestern, Austin, and Centenary.    AC is home to JWU and CC, at TLU and Southwestern.  TU is home to Dallas and SW, at Schreiner.    AC @ TLU will ensure that one of the two have a third loss.

Last year AC and TU tied and the top seed was determined by coin toss, so I guess that's on tap for whichever teams end up at the top this year.  I do wish the championships were someplace beside TLU, but that's life.   EDIT: apparently record against common non-conference opponents comes before a coin toss, I'm too lazy to look that up right now.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 03, 2019, 10:56:49 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 03, 2019, 09:50:43 AM
Another one that could have gone either way, two point game until under three minutes and Trinity hit most of their FTs down the stretch when AC couldn't convert.  Good time for Abby Holland to have her first (!) double-double of the season with 28 & 12 (plus six steals). 

So now we have three teams with two losses, AC, TU, and the rabbit-out-of-a-hat TLU.  Mel Dixon always does a great job getting the best out of his student-athletes.   TLU is at Dallas, home to Southwestern, Austin, and Centenary.    AC is home to JWU and CC, at TLU and Southwestern.  TU is home to Dallas and SW, at Schreiner.    AC @ TLU will ensure that one of the two have a third loss.

Last year AC and TU tied and the top seed was determined by coin toss, so I guess that's on tap for whichever teams end up at the top this year.  I do wish the championships were someplace beside TLU, but that's life.   EDIT: apparently record against common non-conference opponents comes before a coin toss, I'm too lazy to look that up right now.

If it comes to common non-conference opponent I think that comes down to Hardin-Simmons. Trinity lost to HSU, AC beat them.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 06, 2019, 02:29:48 PM
Austin third, Trinity fifth in first regional rankings (https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2019/02/women-regional-rankings-first). 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 06, 2019, 02:37:46 PM
Come on, man... give the site some love so we can continue paying the bills and doing our work: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2019/02/women-regional-rankings-first
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 06, 2019, 02:40:33 PM
First women's regional rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2019/02/women-regional-rankings-first
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 06, 2019, 02:44:22 PM
Getting that early season win against UTD, as well as how good Millsaps has turned out to be (considering AC got a win over them early, and now their success makes it a "good" loss during the second matchup), I'm sure played a big role in the 'Roos landing at #3. And obviously, splitting with Trinity (which seems to be pretty much par for the course with those two every year nowadays) is big as well.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 13, 2019, 10:02:11 AM
Bryce and Abby keep going back and forth on the D3hoops TotW, with Bryce getting her third nod this week.   Abby got her bid for a third selection off to a strong start with a 43-point performance (on 21-26 shooting in 29 minutes) against Schreiner last night.   That sets the school scoring record (4th in SCAC history; Micah Weaver had 42 for TU last year) and set the conference record for most shots made (old record, 19).   If Abby had gotten more than 3 FTs she might have put the all-time SCAC scoring record (47, Julie Colantoni, Oglethorpe, 2004) at risk. 

Edit:  updated with 43 points instead of 42.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 13, 2019, 02:55:03 PM
Regional Rankings Week 2 released: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2019/02/women-regional-rankings-second
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 15, 2019, 08:51:11 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 13, 2019, 02:55:03 PM
Regional Rankings Week 2 released: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2019/02/women-regional-rankings-second

Posted this on the rankings board, can't see why Trinity passed AC, with everything being equal (records, h2h, RRO (3-3 AC vs 2-2 TU which you would think favors AC) and AC having a slight edge in OWP (.518 to .513).

Surprisingly, TLU lost to SW earlier this week after shooting 28% in the second half.   In their win against Trinity they shot 58% for the entire game.   SW can be dangerous when their C Cecily Woolfolk is on, as she was against TLU (27 points, 10-16 from the field, 10 boards before fouling out late).  She's tall enough (6'), big and strong; if you let her get position and don't bring some help quickly can be very effective.   
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 15, 2019, 05:11:48 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 15, 2019, 08:51:11 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 13, 2019, 02:55:03 PM
Regional Rankings Week 2 released: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2019/02/women-regional-rankings-second

Posted this on the rankings board, can't see why Trinity passed AC, with everything being equal (records, h2h, RRO (3-3 AC vs 2-2 TU which you would think favors AC) and AC having a slight edge in OWP (.518 to .513).

Surprisingly, TLU lost to SW earlier this week after shooting 28% in the second half.   In their win against Trinity they shot 58% for the entire game.   SW can be dangerous when their C Cecily Woolfolk is on, as she was against TLU (27 points, 10-16 from the field, 10 boards before fouling out late).  She's tall enough (6'), big and strong; if you let her get position and don't bring some help quickly can be very effective.

I didn't see the TLU/SW game but re: Cecily, one thing I found interesting... I checked in on that one about midway through, and saw she had scored 24 of their first 36 points (!!!). I was shocked to see they had come back from about 9 or 10 down to win with her only scoring three points the rest of the way. That's nuts!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 15, 2019, 09:20:06 PM
Ugly game between TLU and AC tonight, in which AC emerges with a 59-52 overtime win. Bryce Frank made some history - broke the career record for double-doubles tonight and moved into the top 10 in scoring in SCAC history. She's also closing in on 1,000 career rebounds with a shot at getting into the top 3 in conference history.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 18, 2019, 09:14:55 AM
Playing their second road game in as many days, Austin lost a close one to a Southwestern team playing its best ball of the season (winners of 5 in last 6), so the seeds for the SCAC tournament are set:

1. Trinity (21-4 / 14-2 SCAC)
plays winner of 4. Southwestern  (12-13 / 11-5) vs. 5. Colorado College (11-13 / 8-8)

2.  Austin (20-5 / 13-3 SCAC)
plays winner of 3. TLU (16-9 / 12-4) vs 6. Schreiner* (6-19 / 6-10)

TU/SW/CC winner plays AC/TLU/Schreiner* winner for championship.

* - tied with Centenary (1-1 H2H); have them here because Centenary game article said the Ladies' season was finished

Was at Trinity's final game of the season against UDallas; not sure the cause, but Dallas only had six  dressed despite 14 players being listed on the roster.  Making matters worse, a player was injured late in the game so the Crusaders went with five the rest of the way.  The team photo only shows eight players; 17 women saw playing time this season, but only 8 were in more than 10 games.   Hope that program can get things turned around. 

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 18, 2019, 01:13:18 PM
Disappointing end of the season for Austin College, but some pretty historic stuff for Bryce Frank. She got her 1,000th career rebound, broke the SCAC records for most double-doubles in a season and a career, and moved into the top 10 in league history in scoring.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 20, 2019, 03:02:52 PM
The new NCAA Division III women's basketball regional rankings are posted: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2019/02/women-regional-rankings-third
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 21, 2019, 01:46:13 PM
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Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 23, 2019, 04:01:03 PM
Barring something unusual looks like Austin is well on its way to setting up the rubber match with Trinity for the conference championship, but Trinity will need a better performance tomorrow than today to beat the 'Roos.   It took Abby Holland setting SCAC championship single-game records in points (38) and field goals (15) to come from behind against Colorado.  Only two other TU players converted FGs and they missed over half of their free throws. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 23, 2019, 04:58:22 PM
Something unusual - big comeback by TLU who win by 4.  Congratulations to Bryce Frank on an outstanding career.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 23, 2019, 07:30:50 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 23, 2019, 04:58:22 PM
Something unusual - big comeback by TLU who win by 4.  Congratulations to Bryce Frank on an outstanding career.
Home court advantage!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 23, 2019, 08:04:19 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 23, 2019, 07:30:50 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 23, 2019, 04:58:22 PM
Something unusual - big comeback by TLU who win by 4.  Congratulations to Bryce Frank on an outstanding career.
Home court advantage!

No doubt. Once the threes started falling in the fourth for TLU, the crowd 100% played a role. Big part of the shift in the momentum.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 23, 2019, 08:30:35 PM
Quote from: jekelish on February 23, 2019, 08:04:19 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 23, 2019, 07:30:50 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 23, 2019, 04:58:22 PM
Something unusual - big comeback by TLU who win by 4.  Congratulations to Bryce Frank on an outstanding career.
Home court advantage!

No doubt. Once the threes started falling in the fourth for TLU, the crowd 100% played a role. Big part of the shift in the momentum.

The box said there were close to 800 in attendance today; I'll be surprised if it's not over 1000 tomorrow.   
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 24, 2019, 03:47:55 PM
Just like the last time they played, Trinity got off to a dreadful start, trailed by double digits at halftime, and the comeback fell short with TLU clinching the SCAC championship and the resulting bid 68-62.   Abby Holland had 19 (on 24 shots!) and 12 boards to lead Trinity, who shot a woeful 33% to TLU's 47%.  Trinity again missed over half their free throws (9-20).   This loss in all probability ends TU's season.   

Attendance was 954.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on March 06, 2019, 01:44:45 PM
Bryce Frank has been selected to participate in the WBCA D3 All-Star game. Congrats to Bryce, way to cap off a great career.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 06, 2019, 03:29:37 PM
ACRoos story:  http://www.acroos.com/sports/wbkb/2018-19/releases/20190306kkhlj0

I didn't even know there was such a thing (this is an inaugural event, apparently) - congratulations to Bryce!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 07, 2019, 12:35:41 PM
Ron - where the heck have you been? It is the first year of the event, but we've been talking about it on your favorite show for ... months now! I think we first talked about it in December. :)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on October 31, 2019, 12:14:55 PM
Hoping my buddy jekelish returns for our annual two-poster SCAC conversation this season after the departure of Bryce Frank.   

Trinity posted their roster and schedule recently and they would appear to have a solid addition in 5'11" F Ashlyn Milton from Amarillo (Amarillo HS).   Amarillo is a perennial 5A (second largest classification) power which has won back-to-back state championships, with Ashlyn the state tournament MVP both years. Her 2018 state championship teammate, G Sam Henry, came to Trinity last year.  The team is once again young, with only two seniors on the roster, but one of those is Abby Holland.   Will try to make it down to SA next weekend to catch their opener against a very good George Fox team (25-4, second round loss to WUSTL last season).  GF graduated their top scorer, Tavin Headings, but should have a strong senior-laden lineup returning.  Michael Coppolino takes over the reins for the Lady Bruins after a successful stint at Mt. St. Mary's (NY), where he turned that struggling program around.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on October 31, 2019, 04:25:18 PM
Oh I'm still around! Looks like AC and Trinity both got a little respect in the preseason poll, with the 'Roos at #36 and Trinity at #39. Obviously, tough to replace Bryce Frank but essentially everyone else who produced meaningful numbers last year is back, including Ann Savage, who is back for a graduate year (she missed her freshman season with an injury so she's got her 5th year while she gets her masters). Looking to see who in the junior class steps up this year. Kacie West has been a double digit scorer throughout her career coming off the bench and getting about 18 minutes a game, so it'll be interesting seeing how much of a jump her numbers get now that she'll be in the starting lineup and presumably getting 25-30 minutes every night. Really good shooter and a volume scorer. Don't be surprised to see her finish in the top 3 in the conference in scoring average this season, and perhaps even challenge for the top spot. One of the freshmen they brought in, Sarah Gwin, is an All-State guard from San Antonio who scored over 2,000 points in her career so she might wind up being a good one off the bench.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on October 31, 2019, 05:10:51 PM
Sounds like another fun year (if only we can do something about Mel Dixon and his pesky TLU bunch).  Trinity losses to graduation were minimal - about 9 points, 2.5 rebounds, 1.5 assists per game.   
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 06, 2019, 12:05:10 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on October 31, 2019, 05:10:51 PM
Sounds like another fun year (if only we can do something about Mel Dixon and his pesky TLU bunch).  Trinity losses to graduation were minimal - about 9 points, 2.5 rebounds, 1.5 assists per game.

SCAC pre-season poll (https://www.scacsports.com/sports/wbkb/2019-20/releases/PreseasonPoll) has Trinity at the top by a slim margin over TLU, then AC and SW.   The Bulldogs return a very experienced crew this year including four of their top five scorers from last season.   

1.   Trinity University (5)   77
2.   Texas Lutheran University (4)   72
3.   Austin College   64
4.   Southwestern University (1)   61
5.   Colorado College    49
6.   Schreiner University   36
7.   Centenary College   35
8.   University of St. Thomas   26
9.   Johnson & Wales University (Denver)   16
10.   University of Dallas   14
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 06, 2019, 02:18:02 PM
You gotta give props to the SCAC Commissioner for rebuilding the SCAC!

10 teams and you have decent travel partners!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 09, 2019, 11:35:06 PM
Trinity breezed past #8 George Fox in the season opener for both teams, 74-55.  Ashlyn Milton led all scorers in her first collegiate game with 18 points (7-11, 4-6 3FG) in just 19 minutes.   Trinity led almost the entire game, trailing only once at 2-1.  GF had a difficult time with Trinity's press (23 turnovers in the first three quarters) and made only a single field goal in the first quarter.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 10, 2019, 08:57:48 PM
Trinity dropped a nail-biter to #9 St. Thomas, 71-68.   The visitors hit their last eight field goal attempts, but Trinity's defense kept it close until the end.   Abby Holland had 22 in the loss to lead all scorers.

Trinity should see a few more votes in this week's top 25 than they did last week.   
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: gordonmann on November 11, 2019, 09:56:37 AM
No question that Trinity will see more Top 25 votes when the next poll is released (it's not this week because a bunch of teams haven't played yet). I was really impressed by the Tigers who played to two very good teams with very different styles. Abby Holland has great footwork and a bevy of moves. St. Thomas (as always) will be a tough match up for anyone.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on November 11, 2019, 10:19:32 AM
I watched a bit of Trinity's game against George Fox. Ashlyn Milton looks like a really good young player. Good size, moves well, and looks natural on her jumper. Much to my chagrin as an Austin College fan, of course.

Speaking of, AC got a win to open year 1 A.B. (After Bryce). Rhodes shot absolutely absurdly in the first half to keep things close (82% in the second quarter -- !!!), but the 'Roos pulled away in the second half and the final score probably wasn't quite as close as the game ended up being, as the 'Roos emptied the bench at the end and the Lynx took advantage a little bit. Ann Savage led the nation in assist/turnover ratio last year and picked up where she left off, with 7 assists and 0 turnovers. Austin College's starters combined for 76 of the team's 89 points, with all five players reaching double figures.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 11, 2019, 03:21:14 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on November 11, 2019, 09:56:37 AM
No question that Trinity will see more Top 25 votes when the next poll is released (it's not this week because a bunch of teams haven't played yet). I was really impressed by the Tigers who played to two very good teams with very different styles. Abby Holland has great footwork and a bevy of moves. St. Thomas (as always) will be a tough match up for anyone.

Thanks, Gordon.  After watching GF play Trinity, and seeing them having to go to OT to beat ETBU yesterday, I wonder if the seniors are having an adjustment period with their new coach.   Happy to see Abby have a strong game against St. Thomas - she's been one of their rocks the last couple of years, and if they can get she and Ashlyn Milton on the floor at the same time (and stay out of foul trouble) it could open up the floor nicely. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 18, 2019, 10:20:03 AM
Another nice win for Trinity last night, giving Hardin-Simmons (3-1) their first loss of the young season.  HSU opened their season with a 30-point plastering of TLU and their closest game of the year was a 20-point win over NAIA Arlington Baptist. Leading scorer for the Tigers was Emily Daniel with 24 (4-8 3FG), and Abby Holland added 20. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 25, 2019, 09:29:57 AM
Austin and Trinity both got good wins this weekend, with the 'Roos (2-0) bombing Hendrix (2-2) on the road 95-53 (Kacie West led all scorers with 23 points,  Ally Longaker almost had a double-double with 12 points and 9 boards).   Trinity took the 6+ hour bus ride to Marshall, where after a slow start the visiting Tigers beat their home-standing ETBU (2-3) counterparts 69-60.   Abby Holland had 20 points, 10 boards, and 6 steals (with zero turnovers) to lead the way for Trinity.

The Tigers are off until December 15, when they play their last home game of the year against the UT-D Comets (1-2); Austin gets UT-D in Richardson on Tuesday for their next game.   This should be a strong challenge for both schools with the Comets returning 4 starters and 13 players from last year's ASC championship-winning team.   UT-D, ranked #7 in the d3hoops preaseon top 25, is 1-2 with close losses at Wheaton (#14) and Chicago (#18).

Elsewhere in the SCAC:  The only SCAC  team besides AC and TU on the good side of .500 is St. Thomas (3-2), who despite a 30-10 disparity at the foul line took UMHB (2-1, narrow loss to #5 NAIA D1 Wayland Baptist) to OT before falling 85-77.   After starting the season 0-3, Southwestern won a pair over Concordia (1-4), 63-56, and Howard Payne (1-2), 65-64.   TLU dropped both games this weekend, 58-60 to McMurry (4-1) and 53-75 to Hardin-Simmons (5-1).  At 0-5, the Bulldogs are still looking for their first victory of the season.   Centenary (0-4), JWU-Denver (0-3), and Schreiner (0-4) are also winless on the year. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on November 25, 2019, 10:25:31 AM
It'll definitely be a huge test for Austin College tomorrow, that's for sure. Polly over at UTD has always seemed to have AC's number a little more than anyone else -- fitting, since she's an AC alum. I'm thinking about trying to catch that one live, I'll be curious to see how the 'Roos look against top 25 competition. First REAL test without Bryce.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 26, 2019, 09:00:05 AM
Trinity #20, Austin RV in the first D3hoops.com poll of the season (https://d3hoops.com/notables/2019/11/top25-women-week1).  A bit disappointing to see Trinity there given that they absolutely throttled George Fox (#11), came within 3 of St. Thomas (#6 with one first-place vote), have given HSU (now 5-1) their only loss of the season, and have a win against ETBU which is also RV.   But, as the guys said in the podcast, for many voters this is the part of the year when past performance is given as much or more credence than current results.  It'll be interesting to see where Trinity and AC are by mid-December should they both continue winning.

Happy Thanksgiving to jekelish and any other souls who may wander in here.  :)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on November 26, 2019, 04:41:55 PM
Not the prettiest win for Austin College, but the 'Roos escape Richardson with a 58-57 win. 'Roos led basically the whole game but needed a last second miss from UTD to secure the win. 3-0 for the 'Roos and still a big win. Second in a row over UTD, which hasn't happened in awhile.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on November 30, 2019, 08:19:20 AM
Interesting game today for Austin College, playing a neutral site game against Millsaps. I'm not sure what to make of the Majors this year, as they're 4-2 but their wins have come against teams that are a combined 3-18. If the 'Roos pick up the win today, they SHOULD be able to head into their game against St. Thomas - who is looking to be pretty formidable as they transition from NAIA to D3 - at 7-0. Get through St. Thomas, and suddenly you're looking at 8-0 heading into a home game against Mary Hardin-Baylor. That would set up a heck of a game right before the New Year.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on December 15, 2019, 12:13:43 PM
Couple intriguing games I know I'll be keeping an eye on today... Trinity vs UTD, obviously, for the sake of SCAC standings (and, if UTD is able to win, boosts that road win for the 'Roos in Richardson), and then a non-SCAC game with Rhodes vs UMHB since AC beat Rhodes earlier this year and hosts UMHB at the end of December. Another good measure of how everyone stacks up and, again, if Rhodes can knock off UMHB it's another boost for AC's strength of schedule.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 24, 2019, 11:22:57 AM
Jekelish got his wish when Trinity couldn't get it done down the stretch against UT-D, whose G Raenett Hughes went off for 37 on 14-17 shooting in the Comets' 72-68 win.  Tigers rebounded with a couple of nice wins in a tournament in Washington, 70-61 over Puget Sound (6-3) and 75-40 over shorthanded PLU (5-4).   

One encouraging sign in the two wins for the rest of the season was Anna Muller pulling down 9 and 11 rebounds. Rebounding is always problematic for Trinity, which puts so much effort into their full-court press in lieu of crashing the boards. Muller transferred to TU from Rhodes as a junior last year but has seen limited playing time (I believe she suffered a knee injury as a sophomore at Rhodes that cost nearly an entire season). The 18 & 16 minutes represented the most playing time by far since a 23 minute effort last December vs. Austin.  Obviously this is only two games, but it wouldn't hurt to have someone 6'3" on the floor to clean up the glass and draw some of the double teams Abby Holland sees when she posts up.  Muller was named to the Pacific NW all-tourney team, of which Abby was named MVP. 

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays, y'all.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 30, 2019, 11:22:52 AM
AC has a great opportunity to put themselves in the national picture (as if 8-0 isn't good enough) with a home tilt vs. #5 UMHB this afternoon.  The Lady Cru had to go to OT to get past St. Thomas, who the Roos beat fairly handily, the Lions' huge comeback in that game notwithstanding.  IMO with the exception of an impressive win over #13 Whitman, UMHB has not played like the #5 team in the country; besides the OT win over St. Thomas they had a narrow escape early in the season against Concordia.  Austin will have to overcome a bit of rust with their last game coming 9 days ago and UMHB having played on Saturday in a win over Illinois Wesleyan. 

Trinity started their part of the SCAC season with a closer-than-it-needed-to-be win yesterday at TLU, 60-51. The Tigers struggled from beyond the arc, shooting under 20% (5-26); winning the battle on the boards 44-38 with an 18-9 edge on the offensive glass helped make the difference.  Abby Holland had 25 points to lead all scorers along with 6 boards and 4 steals, and Anna Muller added 11 points and a game-leading 9 boards (EDIT:  in just 19 minutes).   Trinity makes the short trip to Georgetown this evening to take on Southwestern. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 30, 2019, 05:22:41 PM
'Roos up 63-51 with just under 5:00 remaining.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on December 30, 2019, 06:34:57 PM
Big win for Austin College - they pretty much dominated UMHB (who, in fairness, was without their second leading scorer today). Balanced effort for the 'Roos, as all of their games have been so far this year. 9-0 and I have to imagine if they can take care of business this weekend in Colorado, they'll vault into the Top 25.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 31, 2019, 08:23:40 AM
Congrats on the big win, jekelish.   AC definitely should be in the Top 25 and may bow higher than Trinity, #22 in the last (now two week-old) poll.   Maybe we get a new one today - I have doubts given the holidays ;) - but that wouldn't include the big win.   

Trinity rushed out to a 14-2 lead at Southwestern last night and never really looked back in a 84-51 win. Kelly Simmons had the best game of the her career; the 6-1 sophomore center scored 22 points in 20 minutes, surpassing her previous high of 16 set against ETBU last month.  Many of her points came on open cuts to the basket when other players were double-teamed, but she also showed a nice touch from deep, hitting 2-3 from beyond the arc for her first threes of the season (and doubling her career total, LOL).   Abby Holland added 17 and 9.   The Tigers head home for games with St. Thomas and Centenary before heading on the road next weekend for the first matchup with the 'Roos which should be a fun one to watch. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on December 31, 2019, 09:15:11 AM
It's interesting seeing this season play out. It certainly hasn't gone exactly as many probably expected, with TLU and Southwestern both taking a big step backward (so far) this year. It's still playing out the way the last few years have, with Trinity and AC at the top of the pack and a couple teams that could play spoiler right in behind them with St. Thomas and Colorado College, though obviously UST isn't eligible for the conference tournament this year. Still, with Trinity playing UST and AC playing at Colorado College, this weekend could tell us quite a bit about just how much space there is between that (perceived) first and second tier, if there is any at all.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on December 31, 2019, 10:32:57 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on December 31, 2019, 08:23:40 AM
Congrats on the big win, jekelish.   AC definitely should be in the Top 25 and may bow higher than Trinity, #22 in the last (now two week-old) poll.   Maybe we get a new one today - I have doubts given the holidays ;) - but that wouldn't include the big win.   

Trinity rushed out to a 14-2 lead at Southwestern last night and never really looked back in a 84-51 win. Kelly Simmons had the best game of the her career; the 6-1 sophomore center scored 22 points in 20 minutes, surpassing her previous high of 16 set against ETBU last month.  Many of her points came on open cuts to the basket when other players were double-teamed, but she also showed a nice touch from deep, hitting 2-3 from beyond the arc for her first threes of the season (and doubling her career total, LOL).   Abby Holland added 17 and 9.   The Tigers head home for games with St. Thomas and Centenary before heading on the road next weekend for the first matchup with the 'Roos which should be a fun one to watch.

I follow my former prospects(Kelly Simmons, in this case) to see how they do in the collegiate level. Felt she'd be a quality D3 player.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 31, 2019, 11:30:59 AM
Quote from: ronk on December 31, 2019, 10:32:57 AM

I follow my former prospects(Kelly Simmons, in this case) to see how they do in the collegiate level. Felt she'd be a quality D3 player.

Talent there to be sure!  Always hard to break into the lineup at Trinity - 18 on the roster this year, and all of last year's starters returned - but she's been starting since the ETBU game around Thanksgiving and has been in double figures 3 of 6 games since, averaging almost 12 points and a little over 6 rebounds per game.  Had a little foul trouble last night as SW has a couple of physical posts, but happy with what I've been seeing and looking forward to continued growth.   
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: gordonmann on December 31, 2019, 06:08:50 PM
Yeah, the new poll comes next week. Mid-week holidays have really messed up the regular flow of the Top 25 polls.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 02, 2020, 12:47:29 PM
I was trying to understand why Southwestern is struggling so this season - it seemed that they returned a decent amount of talent - and in reading their pre-season release (https://www.southwesternpirates.com/sports/w-baskbl/2019-20/releases/20191115i7o77h) came across one tidbit.  Their starter at PG, Cydnee Lester, is no longer listed in the team stats or on-line in the roster (though her bio is still on the site (https://www.southwesternpirates.com/sports/w-baskbl/2019-20/bios/lester_cydnee_6rxg?view=bio)) - her last appearance in a box score was against UMHB on Nov. 26th.  No idea what happened there, though she didn't seem to contribute much stat-wise after the season opener.  That leaves the Pirates with 11 on the roster, probably a few short of where they'd like to be.

This is also the third year under Greta Grothe, who I thought at the time a somewhat surprising hire for a program that had some success in the past (but has struggled since Kerri Brinkoeter departed to spend more time with family after the 2015 season).   Her prior head coaching experience - two years at Dallas where her teams struggled to win more than one game out of three - didn't seem promising.  The Pirates managed a .500 season her first year, were two games under .500 last year, and at 3-8 will have their work cut out for them to come close to either of those seasons this year.   If the team continues on the pace it has shown to date, you wonder if there will be a fourth season under her direction. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 03, 2020, 10:17:01 PM
Coach Hill won't be happy with the 27 turnovers, but Trinity had little difficulty otherwise in tonight's 82-58 win over the St. Thomas (TX) team that took #5 UMHB to OT.  Emily Daniel had 21 points on 8-16 shooting, Kelly Simmons added 14 and 10,  Abby Holland 12 and 10, and Ashlyn Milton 12. 

UST, despite the lion on their logo, are the Celts, who were led by Olivia Anna's 13 points.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 03, 2020, 11:38:39 PM
Solid road win for Austin College, as well, holding off a Colorado College team that's proving to be much better than most probably expected and seems to be clearly one of the top 4 teams in the league this year. 10-0 record for the 'Roos as they take on JWU tomorrow (which, no offense intended to JWU, should be a much easier game and AC should head back to Sherman at 11-0).
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 05, 2020, 09:44:16 AM
I have to admit, while I thought AC would be good again this year, I thought they'd be in the 17-19 win range for the regular season after losing Bryce Frank. I'd seen how talented some of the younger players were and expected them to make a nice jump this season, but I never would have predicted an 11-0 start, with a chance to be 12-0 heading into the Trinity game. I'll be interested to see where they fall in the new Top 25 this week since I have to imagine they'll be included. I could see them vaulting up into the top 20 given the quality wins over UTD and UMHB (and Colorado College has proven to be pretty good this year as well, though obviously not on the level of those two ASC schools).
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 06, 2020, 11:32:53 AM
Should be a great game Saturday!   Wish I could be there; I'll actually be in Dallas on Friday but just passing through D/FW on the way back from a funeral. 

Speaking of UT-D and UMHB, the Comets popped the Cru 69-55 in Belton this weekend, which makes AC's win over UT-D look even better.   I haven't had a chance to listen to Hoopsville from last night; they had Top 25 discussion on the agenda and may have talked about where AC might end up.   We'll see in a day or two. 

Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 06, 2020, 08:31:57 PM
And now I'm sitting here refreshing the front page of D3Hoops waiting for the new top 25 to be released...
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: gordonmann on January 06, 2020, 10:47:34 PM
Sorry about that. The voters were on time but I didn't get a chance to post until after the kids went to bed.

It's up now and Austin is in there! (Fairly high too).

https://www.d3hoops.com/top25/women/2019-20/week5
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 07, 2020, 12:43:48 AM
Quote from: gordonmann on January 06, 2020, 10:47:34 PM
Sorry about that. The voters were on time but I didn't get a chance to post until after the kids went to bed.

It's up now and Austin is in there! (Fairly high too).

https://www.d3hoops.com/top25/women/2019-20/week5

Totally understand, and appreciate you Gordon!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 07, 2020, 11:27:23 AM
Trinity and Austin College land at 21 and 22 in the WBCA poll.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: gordonmann on January 07, 2020, 12:10:09 PM
For what it's worth, I have them both higher on my ballot.

I have Trinity 8th  and Austin 12th. Trinity's loss to St. Thomas is better than it now looks because St. Thomas has since lost its best player to injury.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 07, 2020, 06:27:40 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on January 07, 2020, 12:10:09 PM
For what it's worth, I have them both higher on my ballot.

I have Trinity 8th  and Austin 12th. Trinity's loss to St. Thomas is better than it now looks because St. Thomas has since lost its best player to injury.

Always hard for teams out here to get mindshare from your voters, who I am sure are much more familiar with teams back east because that's simply where most of them are, and there are more marquee matchups as a result.   It is surprising to me that UMHB - with one win against a top 20 team - loses two of three to UT-D and AC and still stays above both of them in the rankings.   And whoever loses the Trinity - AC matchup this weekend probably drops off the ballot of some (more) voters. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 07, 2020, 07:12:16 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on January 07, 2020, 06:27:40 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on January 07, 2020, 12:10:09 PM
For what it's worth, I have them both higher on my ballot.

I have Trinity 8th  and Austin 12th. Trinity's loss to St. Thomas is better than it now looks because St. Thomas has since lost its best player to injury.

Always hard for teams out here to get mindshare from your voters, who I am sure are much more familiar with teams back east because that's simply where most of them are, and there are more marquee matchups as a result.   It is surprising to me that UMHB - with one win against a top 20 team - loses two of three to UT-D and AC and still stays above both of them in the rankings.   And whoever loses the Trinity - AC matchup this weekend probably drops off the ballot of some (more) voters.

I watched the first half of the most recent UTD-UMHB game - it was pretty clear at that point UMHB was the better team - obvious by the talent and depth on the floor.  I was shocked UTD came back to win.  Both are very good teams, obviously, but results aren't always the end all of things, especially when you're trying to predict over an entire season.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 07, 2020, 09:51:24 PM
Having watched both UTD and UMHB this year, I can say I fully expected UTD to win that matchup. There's just something... off... with UMHB right now.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 08, 2020, 06:43:02 AM
Quote from: jekelish on January 07, 2020, 09:51:24 PM
Having watched both UTD and UMHB this year, I can say I fully expected UTD to win that matchup. There's just something... off... with UMHB right now.

I did, going in - I'm just saying from how the first half went, what it looked like, I was pretty sure I was wrong.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: gordonmann on January 08, 2020, 10:46:50 AM
I've said this on Hoopsville before, but, when Mary Hardin-Baylor is on, they look like the most complete team in the country to me. Strong, talented guards, depth and size up front, and a go-to player when they need a basket. I don't understand their start.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cover2 on January 08, 2020, 03:33:16 PM
UMHB has been missing a starter, actually the second leading scorer, for the past few weeks due to an injury.  I think once they are back to full strength they can get it going again.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: gordonmann on January 08, 2020, 11:10:50 PM
Good to know. Thanks.

QuoteAlways hard for teams out here to get mindshare from your voters, who I am sure are much more familiar with teams back east because that's simply where most of them are, and there are more marquee matchups as a result.   It is surprising to me that UMHB - with one win against a top 20 team - loses two of three to UT-D and AC and still stays above both of them in the rankings.   And whoever loses the Trinity - AC matchup this weekend probably drops off the ballot of some (more) voters.

That may be true, but we try to balance the voting panel. The SCAC has been represented the last couple of years (including this one) with a coach on our panel.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 10, 2020, 11:24:05 PM
Lordy, Southwestern lost to Centenary who were 0-13 before tonight.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 11, 2020, 01:22:08 AM
Ugly win for Austin College tonight. Ended up winning 71-48 but that's a little misleading given it was a 5 point game after three quarters. The 'Roos had an abysmal night shooting the ball but finally started to knock down a few threes late in the game to take control and open things up. I wonder if some of it was the pressure of being ranked again (last year they lost their first game after getting into the rankings) and if some of it was looking ahead to tomorrow's game against Trinity.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 11, 2020, 11:47:23 AM
Quote from: jekelish on January 11, 2020, 01:22:08 AM
Ugly win for Austin College tonight. Ended up winning 71-48 but that's a little misleading given it was a 5 point game after three quarters. The 'Roos had an abysmal night shooting the ball but finally started to knock down a few threes late in the game to take control and open things up. I wonder if some of it was the pressure of being ranked again (last year they lost their first game after getting into the rankings) and if some of it was looking ahead to tomorrow's game against Trinity.

Sounds like Trinity's game last month against TLU, probably their worst effort of the season.  Sometimes you just can't get into the flow.  Here's hoping that's not a problem for either of our teams tonight. 

Gordon, I wasn't trying to be critical of your pollsters (and thank you for your efforts to represent the entirety of D3), it's just human nature that you'll have a higher regard for the teams you know than the ones for which you only see the occasional linescore.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 11, 2020, 10:28:02 PM
Disappointing result for AC but honestly one that I kinda saw coming. The 'Roos haven't been playing their best ball the last few games, and Trinity is really good. Bad combination. The Tigers made shots and executed when they needed to and AC just couldn't make enough stops to chip away when Trinity started to pull away. I think the final score is a LITTLE misleading, as Trinity had a couple big runs to blow open what had been a really competitive, evenly matched game, but the Tigers were definitely the better team today. They're terrific at getting into passing lanes, and early on it didn't help AC's case that they had a few really sloppy passes that made Trinity's ability to turn a team over easier. That kinda set the tone, and Trinity's ability to make shots down the stretch (and a poor shooting performance from the 'Roos) were the biggest differences.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 12, 2020, 09:09:45 AM
Unfortunately, as the broadcast was behind a paywall, all I can go from is the live stats/box score, but last night's game does seem indicative of recent results where Trinity combined strong post play (Holland 14 points, 12 boards, 7 assists; Milton, 17, 8, and 4; Simmons, 9 and 9) with their full-court pressure to eventually wear down Austin. Would agree that the final margin is a bit misleading and don't expect it to be repeated when the two face off against next month in San Antonio.

Did notice that Anna Muller, who had been playing so well of late, didn't see any playing time either last night or in the previous night's blowout over Dallas.  Hope she's OK; they've already had some injury problems in the post and don't need more.

Speaking of paywalls, the conference announced a partnership with PrestoSports (https://www.prestosports.com/blog/2019/08/PrestoSports_and_the_Southern_Collegiate_Athletic_Conference) earlier this season that sounded like it should have been rolled out to all schools by now.  There is a "SCAC portal (https://portal.stretchinternet.com/scac/)" on Prestosports but it doesn't seem to have a great deal of content (there are a couple of St. Thomas-produced things today but no archives or future listings that I can find).  Will have to ping the commish to see what's up with that.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 12, 2020, 10:06:44 AM
Other notes:   Trinity's string of five 80+ point games with margins of victory also 20+ is the first time that's happened in team history, per the TU game writeup.

Also noticed that #8 George Fox lost in conference to an unranked (very good, but unranked) opponent for the second straight weekend.   Maybe Trinity will be ranked above them now that they not only have a better overall record but beat them by nearly 20 earlier this season.    Not going to hold my breath, though  ;)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 13, 2020, 12:11:02 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on January 11, 2020, 11:47:23 AM

Gordon, I wasn't trying to be critical of your pollsters (and thank you for your efforts to represent the entirety of D3), it's just human nature that you'll have a higher regard for the teams you know than the ones for which you only see the occasional linescore.

Ron - consider this, though, if Gordon (and Pat on the men's side) makes sure there is fair representation across the country including places like Texas have voters, then how is everyone familiar with the "team you know."

I hear this often and for starters I'm aware as many others are that 2/3s of the division is east of the Mississippi, but there is an effort to get representation around the country to keep things as balanced as possible. Would the Northeast know Texas well? Probably not. But Texas voter isn't going to know the Northeast as well either in that mentality.

I will add I think voters do a pretty solid job trying to best understand teams around the country even well outside their own areas - even if we expect a bit of a pull to one's own 'region.' Coaches have access to video of teams around the country at their disposal and I know many who use it. Media members, like myself, don't tend to sit in window-less rooms and only stare at box scores. And SIDs who are on the panel tend to be the kind who search out more information.

I also know Gordon and Pat both also keep an on the voting and voters. If they see irregularities of any kind (and the list is long), they make adjustments - usually in the off-season - if they feel the poll needs that adjustment.

I understand the "island" teams feel slighted from time to time ... but believe it or not, I think that could be said about teams in the backyard of voting members as well. It isn't that easy to always get the poll absolutely accurate especially as we now are seeing more and more parity now on the women's side.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 13, 2020, 10:11:55 AM
I hope AC doesn't drop from 18 all the way out for losing to another top 25 team, even if the final margin was 21. It was a tight game for the first 30 minutes or so, and then Trinity got a big run that put the game away. Plus, AC is still 12-1, and earlier this year when Trinity beat George Fox (when the Tigers were unranked), George Fox only dropped from 8 to 12. At the end of the day I suppose it doesn't really matter what the rankings are in the middle of the season, of course, but it'd feel like a harsh reaction by voters, IMO.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 13, 2020, 12:21:46 PM
Quote from: jekelish on January 13, 2020, 10:11:55 AM
I hope AC doesn't drop from 18 all the way out for losing to another top 25 team, even if the final margin was 21. It was a tight game for the first 30 minutes or so, and then Trinity got a big run that put the game away. Plus, AC is still 12-1, and earlier this year when Trinity beat George Fox (when the Tigers were unranked), George Fox only dropped from 8 to 12. At the end of the day I suppose it doesn't really matter what the rankings are in the middle of the season, of course, but it'd feel like a harsh reaction by voters, IMO.

My usual motto is this: if a person's ballot expected that result (higher ranked team beating a lower ranked team), then the lower ranked team shouldn't be 'punished' for the result; if I have two ranked teams and the lower ranked team wins, I start with making sure I swap them (unless it's, say a 25 beating a 1, that isn't a direct swap necessarily). The only time I'd consider removing a team from my ballot for losing to someone is when that other team is not ranked or shouldn't be ranked.

I would hope Austin doesn't leave the poll and I kind of doubt they will. There were enough losses below them and in the receiving votes category to probably soften the "fall" as it where.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 13, 2020, 01:04:45 PM
Good point.  I think nearly as many teams in the top 25 lost a game this weekend as did not (including UT-Dallas).
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 13, 2020, 01:38:41 PM
Just counted it up: 10 teams in the Top 25 lost this week, and 11 teams who were receiving votes took losses as well. Man, the weekend really was a bloodbath (more so than I even thought).
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: gordonmann on January 13, 2020, 03:46:21 PM
At the risk of losing your clicks as you repeatedly hit "refresh" on the Top 25 page, we have five ballots outstanding but Austin looks like it'll safely be in the Top 25. :)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 13, 2020, 06:21:14 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on January 13, 2020, 03:46:21 PM
At the risk of losing your clicks as you repeatedly hit "refresh" on the Top 25 page, we have five ballots outstanding but Austin looks like it'll safely be in the Top 25. :)

You're a fine human being. I'll make sure to refresh anyway to get those clicks in.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: gordonmann on January 13, 2020, 07:52:56 PM
Thanks. Cha-ching!

https://www.d3hoops.com/top25/women/2019-20/week6
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 13, 2020, 11:26:26 PM
Quote from: jekelish on January 13, 2020, 01:38:41 PM
Just counted it up: 10 teams in the Top 25 lost this week, and 11 teams who were receiving votes took losses as well. Man, the weekend really was a bloodbath (more so than I even thought).

Forgot to mention, there is a place you can see a lot of the info you went and looked up. The women's Top 25 Discussion (http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=2890.msg1972145#msg1972145). Darryl updates that on Thursdays and Sundays throughout the season ... and on the men's side (http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=4097.msg1972146#msg1972146) as well.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on January 16, 2020, 09:51:58 PM
 New to the message board, I have enjoyed reading about the SCAC and especially all the Trinity University information. My daughter has committed and been accepted to go play for Coach Hill at Trinity University next year. It is super exciting to see how well the team is playing and only losing two seniors to graduation after this year, that she gets to be a part of a team and group like that. I'm looking forward to the next four years. Go Tigers!
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 16, 2020, 11:32:34 PM
Quote from: TroyP on January 16, 2020, 09:51:58 PM
New to the message board, I have enjoyed reading about the SCAC and especially all the Trinity University information. My daughter has committed and been accepted to go play for Coach Hill at Trinity University next year. It is super exciting to see how well the team is playing and only losing two seniors to graduation after this year, that she gets to be a part of a team and group like that. I'm looking forward to the next four years. Go Tigers!

I'm an Austin College fan but good luck to your daughter! I hope she has a great career in the conference.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 17, 2020, 08:36:18 AM
Quote from: TroyP on January 16, 2020, 09:51:58 PM
New to the message board, I have enjoyed reading about the SCAC and especially all the Trinity University information. My daughter has committed and been accepted to go play for Coach Hill at Trinity University next year. It is super exciting to see how well the team is playing and only losing two seniors to graduation after this year, that she gets to be a part of a team and group like that. I'm looking forward to the next four years. Go Tigers!

Welcome, Troy, and congratulations to your daughter for being accepted to Trinity.  Coach Hill is a super human being, a fine coach from a family of coaches (dad Bob was an NBA coach including the Spurs and Pacers, brother Casey is an assistant with the Clippers, other brother Chris is head coach at Jesuit Dallas HS; all three brothers attended TU and I think played ball there) and I hope your daughter will enjoy your time working with him and the other players and staff.   Jekelish (AC) and I (TU, class of sometime last century :o) are about the only SCAC posters these days so feel free to ask any questions you might have about the conference or the schools.   We're also fortunate to have our friends from d3hoops, Dave and Gordon, weigh in from time to time so they can add national perspective.

The conference is a bit weak this year, normally TLU is much more in the mix as it's been a three-school battle with AC and TU the last few seasons.  Colorado College is normally a step behind the conference leaders.  Southwestern used to have a much stronger program but have really struggled with this year being the worst I can remember.  Johnson and Wales (CO) joined the conference a few years back and haven't put it together yet; St. Thomas (TX) is probably the third-best team in the conference right now but aren't eligible for championships as they're in the first (or maybe second) year of transferring to D3 from NAIA.  UDallas, Centenary, Schreiner are among the weaker teams most years, including this one.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 17, 2020, 10:32:19 PM
What an absolutely brutal loss for AC, falling 76-73 at Southwestern tonight. Just a dismal performance against a team that, for whatever reason, just has a mental hold on the 'Roos the last couple seasons. Unbelievable.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 18, 2020, 10:21:43 AM
Quote from: jekelish on January 17, 2020, 10:32:19 PM
What an absolutely brutal loss for AC, falling 76-73 at Southwestern tonight. Just a dismal performance against a team that, for whatever reason, just has a mental hold on the 'Roos the last couple seasons. Unbelievable.

Yeah, that was totally unexpected.  The SW game writeup said they moved Naomi Brown to starter and that she helped deal with pressure, but AC doesn't do a lot of full-court pressure, does it?  Stats say 8.8 steals/game vs 6.1 allowed, so it looks more like opportunistic pressure than continual, and even with the change AC had a 7-4 advantage in steals, 8-16 in turnovers, just shot well below their average (36% to SW's 47%) and lost the battle on the boards 28-37.  Still might have won had the Pirates not finally started hitting free throws at the end (were shooting around 50% from the line until the last minute or two, ending up 18-30 on the night).  Sorry, Jek, here's to a better night against TLU.

I won't say much about the Trinity blowout of poor JWU, who were without their leading scorer and ended up on the short side of a 103-26 margin.  About the only good thing for the visitors is that they were able to play seven women; in their prior loss to Colorado they only had five available due to other injuries.  Get well soon, Lady Wildcats.  Trinity will face a stiffer challenge tonight against Colorado, who after last night's results suddenly find themselves tied for second (with St. Thomas) in SCAC play, a half game ahead of AC. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 18, 2020, 09:43:43 PM
Colorado College kept it close for a little over a quarter, trailing 25-23 early in the second, but Trinity went on a 19-2 run over the next six minutes and pulled away for a 90-66 win in San Antonio.   Abby Holland continued her excellent play of late with 26 points (10-15 shooting) and 8 boards, and Ashlyn Milton was 4-of-4 beyond the arc in scoring 19 points in 20 minutes.  Kelly Simmons added 12 points and 9 boards for the home side.   The visitors were led by McKenzee Gertz who had 15 and 10. 

Colorado handled Trinity's pressure well, with 7 TU steals (well below the season average of 17) leading to 14 CC turnovers.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 18, 2020, 10:52:37 PM
Good response from AC after last night's flukey result (no offense intended to Southwestern but I think most would agree that result was far from expected) with a 30 point win over Texas Lutheran. TLU had seemed to be getting things together a bit but the 'Roos were dominant after the first quarter.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: gordonmann on January 20, 2020, 10:59:17 PM
Austin is still ranked, hanging in at No. 24.

And Trinity (Texas) is finally ranked in front of George Fox, which probably should've happened sooner.

https://www.d3hoops.com/top25/women/2019-20/week7
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 20, 2020, 11:19:29 PM
I'm legitimately surprised AC is still ranked, but glad for obvious reasons and also not so obvious ones. There's definitely an extra something in the AC/Southwestern rivalry where you can basically throw the records out the window these days. Happy for the 'Roos they have a chance to build on their TLU win and have apparently built up enough national respect to be able to withstand a bad loss and continue to get votes.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 21, 2020, 12:10:17 PM
That's about where I'd put Trinity and it's great the voters continued to show AC respect despite what I agree with jekelish was a fluke loss.   Sounds like AC::SW as TU::TLU.   Will be interesting to see what the result is for the latter in this weekend's installment.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 21, 2020, 04:19:26 PM
For anyone wondering (hi Jek!) the first regional rankings will be out Feb 12 (per https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/championships/sports/basketball/d3/women/2019-20D3WBB_PreChampManual.pdf).   That's a week later than last season. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 21, 2020, 05:22:30 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on January 21, 2020, 04:19:26 PM
For anyone wondering (hi Jek!) the first regional rankings will be out Feb 12 (per https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/championships/sports/basketball/d3/women/2019-20D3WBB_PreChampManual.pdf).   That's a week later than last season.

It's three weeks before selection.  That's pretty typical.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 22, 2020, 11:07:56 AM
It's the season that is a week later. :)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 22, 2020, 12:37:11 PM
You guys know this, people like me just look at dates.   ;D
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on January 22, 2020, 07:35:12 PM
So does the SCAC ever receive any at large bids into the tourney or is it one of the conferences that you better win the conference tourney to get in?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 22, 2020, 07:57:24 PM
Quote from: TroyP on January 22, 2020, 07:35:12 PM
So does the SCAC ever receive any at large bids into the tourney or is it one of the conferences that you better win the conference tourney to get in?

Recent history is "win to get in" but this year could potentially test that with Trinity and AC both off to their strong starts (IF they both reach the conference final; if either loses in the semis there's probably no shot).
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: gordonmann on January 22, 2020, 09:06:51 PM
The SCAC has not had an at-large bid in the last decade but this is a good chance to get one.

https://www.d3hoops.com/guidebook/2019/women/2010-19_WBB_NCAA_Bids.pdf
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on January 22, 2020, 10:07:44 PM
So what is it that keeps the SCAC from getting an at large bid? Is it just history of conference not playing well in the tournament?
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on January 22, 2020, 11:05:41 PM
Quote from: TroyP on January 22, 2020, 10:07:44 PM
So what is it that keeps the SCAC from getting an at large bid? Is it just history of conference not playing well in the tournament?

That's not 1 of the criteria that is used for getting an at-large bid; rather, won-loss %, strength of schedule(SOS), and games versus regionally ranked opponents(vrro) are among the primary criteria considered for a team to be included/excluded from a bid; nothing about a conference(history, #of bids, etc) is considered.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 23, 2020, 08:48:18 AM
One problem is that the conference is bottom-heavy.   Outside of AC, TU, (usually) TLU, most if not all teams usually have sub-.500 records overall, so the SOS for teams at the top of the conference is substantially impacted.  The number of weak teams also means you don't get many results against RROs unless you schedule them in non-conference play.  There really aren't that many at-large bids when you look at the number of teams playing - competition is fierce. 

This year we have St. Thomas in the mix who are playing quite well, but since they are in the second year of their transition from NAIA to D3, results against them don't count in the primary criteria (NCAA policy; four of the women on this year's roster, including their two leading scorers, remain from their last NAIA team, a fifth left in mid-season).   It will be interesting to see how the Celts fare after their holdovers graduate. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 25, 2020, 12:05:25 PM
Speaking of St. Thomas, they may benefit from Proposal 2020-2, adopted at this week's NCAA convention, which for non-NCAA members reclassifying to D3 reduces the waiting period from four years to three (among other things).   Proposal 2020-3, which does the same for NCAA members, was also adopted.

EDIT:  Most importantly, adopted Proposal 2020-4 allows schools to provide snacks and "permissible nutritional supplements" to student-athletes as a benefit of participating in intercollegiate athletics. #nomnom
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 26, 2020, 01:52:30 PM
Will be interesting to see if Trinity gets back in the top ten as I think 5 of the teams ranked above them have lost this weekend.  The next game at St. Thomas, who play much better at home than on the road, could be a test.

Attended the Friday game against TLU ... not their best effort early on but wrapped it up early enough to get some playing time for the deep bench and still won by 25.  Against SW last night they struggled to put points on the board early (27 in the first half thanks in no small part to 1-12 from deep) but a 23-4 third quarter resulted in a easy win and more PT for the bench.   Abby Holland had 20 and 27 in the two games.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 26, 2020, 06:09:53 PM
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Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 26, 2020, 08:12:09 PM
Nice job with Coach Hill, Dave.   Happy to see Coach give props to both the coaches at AC and St. Thomas (wouldn't expect anything less, that's the kind of guy he is).   Trinity is very fortunate to have him guide the program back after it went into the weeds under his predecessor.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 27, 2020, 04:36:47 PM
Going back to my SOS comments - Dave was good enough to post this link to current women's SOS:  https://www.d3hoops.com/seasons/women/2019-20/schedule?tmpl=sos-template - there are 434 teams ranked.

Trinity scheduled stiff opponents in pre-season.  They are currently 109th in SOS.
Southwestern is 155th (playing Trinity and AC twice already helps, also played UT-D and UMHB)
TLU, 251st.
Centenary, 284th.
Colorado is 304th.
Dallas, 322nd.
Schreiner, 347th.
Austin, 355th.

So unless you are Trinity, those kinds of SOSs aren't going to help you when you're on the table with the other regional contenders come Pool C selection time.  And 109th isn't very good, really - your other criteria would have to be superior in comparison. 

St. Thomas (TX) and JWU-Denver, as reclassifying/provisional members, aren't included in SOS calculations. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 27, 2020, 04:59:33 PM
Let's remember something ... the ranking is nice, but the actual SOS number is the most important part. There are a number of teams with incredible SOS numbers but aren't winning games this season that are also in those rankings.

And remember, this is the NCAA's (DIII) SOS number used as part of the criteria for rankings, selections, bracketing, hosting, etc.

So to counter Ron's argument, here is Trinity's actual SOS number: .546

That number is actually really good. It will likely go down as conference schedules continue, but I doubt it will get into trouble areas.

So Ron ... Trinity isn't in as bad a shape as you think. Their "ranking" is simply in terms of how many teams ahead of them have better SOS numbers. But Babson (5th at 9-7 .614) or Bates (7th at 8-8 and .606), along with others, aren't going to be in the conversation for rankings, selections, hosting, etc.

You are looking at the wrong number. :)
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 27, 2020, 10:32:07 PM
That's why you get the big bucks, Dave - straightening out fans who get it wrong  ;)

Seriously, thanks for the correction.   The SCAC still has problems compared to other, stronger conferences in this regard.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 27, 2020, 11:09:11 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on January 27, 2020, 10:32:07 PM
That's why you get the big bucks, Dave - straightening out fans who get it wrong  ;)

Seriously, thanks for the correction.   The SCAC still has problems compared to other, stronger conferences in this regard.

Not to correct you again, but ... big bucks? Where? :)

Yep. Scheduling is a challenge. ASC has some bad numbers most years, but that is also because some teams in some conferences just don't care enough to schedule well in any sense of the definition.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 28, 2020, 08:07:43 AM
It's tough, especially with Tyler recently moving up to D2, finding a lot of high quality opponents in the area and if you don't have the budget to head to one of the tournaments on the east or west coast, you're basically relying on the people you do have playing well. That's one place Rhodes having a down year and Hendrix being REALLY down is killing AC this season.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 31, 2020, 10:16:21 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on January 26, 2020, 01:52:30 PM
Will be interesting to see if Trinity gets back in the top ten as I think 5 of the teams ranked above them have lost this weekend.  The next game at St. Thomas, who play much better at home than on the road, could be a test.


I hate it when I get it right.  Trinity falls at St Thomas 83-81.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 01, 2020, 12:00:57 AM
We were nearly both right tonight, Ron... I had a terrible feeling all week that Colorado College might come to Sherman and steal a win, and it very nearly happened. The Tigers led 53-45 midway through the fourth but AC rallied and pulled out the 64-61 win. It was one ugly, ugly game. Colorado College is solid and plays damn good defense.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 01, 2020, 10:25:31 AM
Trinity only played eight women last night.  In addition to Anna Muller's continuing absence (hasn't played since Jan 4), Hailey Coleman only played nine minutes.   With Abby Holland restricted to 24 minutes with early foul trouble, Ashlyn Milton was on the floor for 30 minutes, and the two guards saw 37 and 30 minutes.  Absent the usual amount of substitution, fatigue could have been a factor at the end as Trinity was held to two points in the last 3:36 (before a three with five seconds left).   

The good news for both AC and TU is that this means next Saturday's rematch in San Antonio will put first place and the top seed on the line once again.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 01, 2020, 11:24:11 AM
Barring something crazy down the stretch, looks like the six teams in the tournament have already essentially been decided... just a matter of how things shake out for seeding. If the season ended today, Schreiner would be the 3-seed but they've got AC once more and Trinity twice, in addition to St. Thomas once more. They've also got Colorado College on the road, so it's hard to see them not falling into the 4-5 game.

Southwestern has been playing better of late and while they've got AC, St. Thomas, and Colorado College left, they've also got the three teams at the bottom of the standings so 7+ wins in conference seems feasible, meaning they could potentially work their way into the 4-5 game as well. TLU has the same remaining schedule, of course, so it's looking likely those two will be fighting it out for who gets the 5 and who gets the 6 for the next couple weeks. If Southwestern gets the 5, then frankly AC might be fine with getting the 2-seed, as for whatever reason Southwestern has just had their number the last couple years so being on the opposite side of the bracket might not be such a bad thing.

That said - I think as last year showed us, home court advantage in this tournament is very real, so Schreiner could throw a scare into whoever they would face in the semifinals if they win that first round game.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 01, 2020, 02:26:43 PM
Good points.   My guess would be AC/TU, Colorado, Schreiner, then pick'em SW/TLU (probably SW since as you say they have played much better since mid-season).  That said, while home court means something, home court for Schreiner isn't like home court for TLU, who may have the most rabid fans in the conference.  Schreiner is 5-4 at home, 4-4 on the road; contrast that with TLU who this year are 5-5 at home, 2-7 on road.  Largest Schreiner crowd this season (realizing that attendance numbers can be iffy):  180.

It's not unusual for the TLU crowd at Trinity to exceed the supporters of the home team, especially when the Bulldogs are doing well.  Even this year, the largest crowd for a TU game in SA so far this season, 310, was against TLU - over 100 more than the next game, sad as to say.   As a point of reference, last year's TLU home crowds were in the 300-400 range during the regular season, increasing to 400-500 towards the end of the season and topped out at nearly 1000 for in the SCAC championship. I just don't see Kerrville going crazy for Schreiner like the folks in Seguin do TLU. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 02, 2020, 12:15:46 AM
In other news of interest, HSU upset UMHB 67-64 tonight.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 02, 2020, 12:50:42 AM
Saw that - heard that UMHB had the ball down one... and turned it over. Brutal.

Austin College got an easy win tonight, 90-48, over JWU. It was 52-18 at halftime, and then 63-18 at one point in the third and the 'Roos essentially used the second half experimenting with different lineups. No starters played more than 15 minutes. In fact, no single player saw more than 16 minutes of action, while every single active player on the roster scored. Four bench players got double figures, no starters did, and the 'Roos got 66 bench points. On the other side, Guzman and Bailey for JWU combined for all but six of their team's points.
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 04, 2020, 08:39:10 AM
Jek, looks like you might be right about Schreiner, who (IMO at least) shocked St. Thomas 88-82 on Sunday.   If they can put together a game like that on the road, they very well could be dangerous in the tournament.   Will be interesting for sure to see how they play at home Friday vs AC, and the season-ending home & away at Trinity could be quite meaningful now... 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 08, 2020, 12:56:41 PM
AC had a strong second half in a comfortable come-from-behind win at Schreiner, Trinity did what it had to do against UD, so it's pretty much for all the marbles tonight in SA when the 'Roos come to town.  A win for Trinity clinches the top seed (barring 3 losses in the next 4 games), an AC win brings tiebreakers and the rest of the season into play.   The first tiebreaker is H2H, the second results against common opponents which I (edit: think) gives the nod to Austin (since they would have defeated St Thomas twice as opposed to Southwestern) should the two end up tied at end of the season.   After today, Trinity is on the road for the Colorado swing next weekend and away and home with Schreiner; Austin is home next week for Southwestern and TLU, followed by road trips to Centenary and St. Thomas. 

I'll be down in SA this afternoon to visit a relative dealing with health challenges and head down to Trinity to take in the game. 
Title: Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 08, 2020, 02:32:48 PM
I'm hoping my 'Roos can get out to a better start than they have been lately... they've been coming out of the gates a little slow and eventually wearing teams down thanks to depth and talent on the bench, but against a team like Trinity, they can't really afford to do the same. That was the case when they played up in Sherman, and it left AC trying to play catchup the rest of the way.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 08, 2020, 07:52:48 PM
Good one going so far in San Antonio.  After a tight first quarter, Trinity was threatening to run away with it, leading by 14 with under 4 to play in the half, but AC goes on a 9-2 run from there and it's a 7-point game at half, 42-35.  Abby Holland is the only player in double figures with 18.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 08, 2020, 09:15:32 PM
Great comeback by Austin College but they dug themselves too big a hole, which you obviously can't do against a team that scores like Trinity. Interestingly, Austin College's two leading scorers in the game - Natalie McCoy and Sarah Gwin - are both San Antonio natives. Clearly, they play well in their hometown.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 08, 2020, 11:00:41 PM
Those were some obscene NBA-caliber threes y'all hit at the end.  And we helped by missing a. boatload. of. free. throws.

Sets up what is likely a fascinating SCAC final barring upsets.  Roos know they can play with Trinity after tonight, and you know what they say about beating someone three times in a season.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on February 09, 2020, 07:55:36 PM
I was there with my daughter last night. Great energy in the building last night. It was a fun game to attend. It was neat to be able to see the intensity the girls play with. You just can't see that on TV.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 10, 2020, 02:04:35 PM
Quote from: TroyP on February 09, 2020, 07:55:36 PM
I was there with my daughter last night. Great energy in the building last night. It was a fun game to attend. It was neat to be able to see the intensity the girls play with. You just can't see that on TV.

Austin usually brings a pretty good crowd given the distance between schools - they must have a pretty active alumni chapter here - as the crowd was about 2x this season's normal.  Glad the women had a chance to play in that kind of environment in SA.   

Both coaches definitely get their players to go after it from the opening tip.   ;D

I would hope that AC stays in the top 25.   They played a higher-ranked opponent tough on the road and the result is pretty much what the relative rankings would predict.   Trinity might move up a spot or two due to teams losing above them.   Bethel -  formerly undefeated (#5) before losing to a team that was 2-18 in a game where they never had the lead - will probably not fall that far, but we'll see. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 10, 2020, 03:38:59 PM
There's definitely a good AC alum base in San Antonio... including Trinity's President!
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 11, 2020, 12:59:49 PM
Weirdly, in the WBCA poll, after AC lost to Southwestern they didn't fall. They stayed out at 21. This week, after losing to top 15 Trinity (on the road), they fell four spots from 19 to 23.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 11, 2020, 01:36:12 PM
Quote from: jekelish on February 11, 2020, 12:59:49 PM
Weirdly, in the WBCA poll, after AC lost to Southwestern they didn't fall. They stayed out at 21. This week, after losing to top 15 Trinity (on the road), they fell four spots from 19 to 23.

And Bethel loses to a team that had won all of twice this year and only goes from 6 to 9.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Roundball999 on February 11, 2020, 04:02:32 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 11, 2020, 01:36:12 PM
Quote from: jekelish on February 11, 2020, 12:59:49 PM
Weirdly, in the WBCA poll, after AC lost to Southwestern they didn't fall. They stayed out at 21. This week, after losing to top 15 Trinity (on the road), they fell four spots from 19 to 23.

And Bethel loses to a team that had won all of twice this year and only goes from 6 to 9.

It appears that one loss - even a "bad" loss - is largely forgiven by voters if you've won all the rest of your games (Bethel) in one of the tougher conferences.  On the other hand, suffering 2-3 losses seems to have a multiplier effect in voters' minds especially if in not a traditional powerhouse conference. 

Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 12, 2020, 03:33:41 PM
Women's first Regional Rankings released.

https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/women-regional-rankings-first
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 12, 2020, 03:33:56 PM
First Regional Rankings are out (https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/women-regional-rankings-first) and unfortunately it appears Austin's low SOS (.478) has done them no favors, as they're not ranked.  If nothing changes that will take 2 W's vs. RROs from Trinity (.538) who are ranked second to one-loss Oglethorpe (.539).  Big difference between 3-2 and 5-2 so hoping AC gets ranked before the season is done. 

With four ASC teams (currently) regionally ranked whichever Texas team is ranked highest at the end should have the chance to host the first two rounds.  Given the way things look now it will be very hard for Austin to get a bid, so this should provide even more motivation for the 'Roos at the SCAC championships.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 15, 2020, 10:24:34 PM
Must have been something in the water in the SCAC tonight. Austin College led by double digits a couple times but had to fight like hell to hold off Texas Lutheran, and Trinity had to come from behind to beat Colorado College. The two games were decided by a total of seven points. Nearly a very crazy night in the standings.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 15, 2020, 11:07:39 PM
Trinity trailed most of the first three quarters before going on a 9-0 run to start the fourth to take their largest lead of the night (6).  CC tied it a couple of times after that but couldn't get over the hump, missing a layup that would have again tied the game with under 20 seconds to go, and for one night Trinity hit their free throws. TU couldn't buy a bucket, shooting 33% but a 21-8 edge in turnovers kept the game in reach. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 19, 2020, 03:07:37 PM
The second week Regional Rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/women-regional-rankings-second
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 19, 2020, 03:10:44 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 19, 2020, 03:07:37 PM
The second week Regional Rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/women-regional-rankings-second

Welcome back to the regional rankings, 'Roos!
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 19, 2020, 05:26:19 PM
If AC gets through this upcoming weekend 2-0 (winning at St. Thomas is going to be tough), and then makes it to the conference title game, I wonder if they might still sneak in because of the desire to create a Texas pod as in recent years that could consist of Trinity, UTD, AC, and UMHB. Because let's be honest, travel and cost do factor in at least to a degree (from what I've been told by People Who Would Know).
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 19, 2020, 07:32:11 PM
Quote from: jekelish on February 19, 2020, 05:26:19 PM
If AC gets through this upcoming weekend 2-0 (winning at St. Thomas is going to be tough), and then makes it to the conference title game, I wonder if they might still sneak in because of the desire to create a Texas pod as in recent years that could consist of Trinity, UTD, AC, and UMHB. Because let's be honest, travel and cost do factor in at least to a degree (from what I've been told by People Who Would Know).

The question will be can AC get high enough to get on the table?   I think 1-4 are Pool A right now, 5 is likely the ASC runner-up who will get a bid.   Get to 6 and maybe, but a loss in the SCACs would make that harder.   And if any of the 1-4 get thrown into the Pool C mix, it would be even tougher.   ACs best bet is to shock the world - sad to say it would not be the first time that happened to TU.

I remember one year UT-D got to host because they could bus Hendrix in, and they couldn't bus them to Trinity who were the higher seed.   That would not be the case if we had four Texas teams (or a fourth that would have to be flown in no matter who hosted). 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 21, 2020, 09:03:22 AM
Trinity officially clinched the top seed last night with a 87-52 win at Schreiner.    Looking at the conference:

1.  Trinity 16-1 (remaining:  SCH)
2.  Austin 13-3 (remaining:  @CEN @STT)
3.  Colorado 10-6 (remaining: @SW @TLU)
4.  Schreiner 10-7 (remaining:  @TRI)
5.  TLU 7-9 (remaining: JWU COLO)
6.  Southwestern 6-10 (remaining:  COLO JWU)

I don't think JWU is eligible for the playoffs yet, even if their chances at 4-12 and games at TLU and SW make it highly unlikely they could overtake SW for the last spot in the first place.

With those positions fairly locked given upcoming games (TLU and SW could swap, I guess), that sets us up with

3. Colorado vs. 6. Southwestern, winner to face 2. Austin
4. Schreiner v. 5. TLU, winner to face 1. Trinity

Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 21, 2020, 12:36:05 PM
JWU is in year two of the Division III membership process.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 22, 2020, 12:35:32 AM
Man, what an ugly win for AC tonight. Defense was great, but the offense was positively abysmal at Centenary. Hopefully they've gotten their poor shooting night out of their system for the weekend, because a repeat of tonight's shooting against St. Thomas could mean big time trouble.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 22, 2020, 08:13:58 AM
Surprise result from last night: Colorado loses to Southwestern. The Pirates will get one more win, in all likelihood, against JWU. TLU has to beat Colorado to keep the 5 seed, as I believe Southwestern owns the tiebreaker. They split during the regular season but Southwestern's win over AC should, I believe, break the tie since AC swept TLU.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 23, 2020, 04:04:56 PM
Offensive struggles are continuing for AC so far today. Shooting 28% with several missed layups, which you can't afford to do against a strong offensive team like St. Thomas. Seems to be a lid on the bucket for the 'Roos this weekend.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 23, 2020, 05:09:09 PM
Vastly better second half for AC but too little, too late as St. Thomas wins 87-78. 54 second half points for the 'Roos, who got it down to 74-71 before a 12-2 run for UST put it away. If AC plays like they did in the second half next weekend, they'll be in good shape. I'm hoping they got the offensive funk out of their system this weekend.

I'm hoping this one doesn't knock AC out of the top 25, given St. Thomas is a 20 win team that owns a win over Trinity this season. Losing by single digits on the road to a high quality opponent doesn't feel like it should equal that precipitous a drop but we shall see.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 23, 2020, 05:19:23 PM
They do play better at home.  Last game for one of their scholarship holdovers, Sheridan Hopkins.

From the (more important) regional ranking standpoint, this loss impacts only the secondary criteria, so unless there are changes to the primary criteria for other teams AC may remain where they are.


Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 24, 2020, 10:26:03 AM
Courtesy SCAC (https://scacsports.com/sports/mbkb/2019-20/releases/20bracket_announced):  Women's seeds:

1) Trinity (17-1 SCAC; 22-3 overall)
2) Austin College (14-4 SCAC; 21-3 overall)
3) Colorado College (10-8 SCAC; 14-11 overall)
4) Schreiner (10-8 SCAC; 12-13 overall)
5) Texas Lutheran (9-9 overall; 11-14 overall)
6) Southwestern (8-10 overall; 10-15 overall)

Schedule:

Friday - Quarterfinals at Schreiner University
Women's Game 1 - 5 p.m. CT - #4 Schreiner vs. #5 Texas Lutheran
Women's Game 2 - 7 p.m. CT - #3 Colorado College vs. #6 Southwestern

Saturday - Semifinals at Schreiner University
Women's Game 3 - 5 p.m. CT - #1 Trinity vs. Winner of Women's G1
Women's Game 4 - 7 p.m. CT - #2 Austin College vs. Winner of Women's G2

Sunday - Finals at Schreiner University
Women's Game 5 - 2 p.m. CT - Winner of Women's G3 vs. Winner of Women's G4

I'll be there Saturday and Sunday (AirBnB FTW!)
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: gordonmann on February 24, 2020, 07:15:00 PM
QuoteI'm hoping this one doesn't knock AC out of the top 25, given St. Thomas is a 20 win team that owns a win over Trinity this season. Losing by single digits on the road to a high quality opponent doesn't feel like it should equal that precipitous a drop but we shall see.

Still good!

https://www.d3hoops.com/top25/women/2019-20/week12
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 26, 2020, 02:22:02 PM
Women's third regional rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/women-regional-rankings-third
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 26, 2020, 02:34:32 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 26, 2020, 02:22:02 PM
Women's third regional rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/women-regional-rankings-third

Unfortunately not good news for AC who dropped to 9th.  If they didn't need to win the tourney before, they do now as the only chance to get a result v. RRO is in the final. 

Trinity moves to #1 on the strength of a 4-2 record vs. RRO.

I know there is another ranking done after Sunday's games are complete; is the record vs RRO based on this week's rankings?  With 3 of Trinity's 4 wins against teams at the bottom of their regions it's a question I'd like the answer to.   :)
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 26, 2020, 03:43:32 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 26, 2020, 02:34:32 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 26, 2020, 02:22:02 PM
Women's third regional rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/women-regional-rankings-third

Unfortunately not good news for AC who dropped to 9th.  If they didn't need to win the tourney before, they do now as the only chance to get a result v. RRO is in the final. 

Trinity moves to #1 on the strength of a 4-2 record vs. RRO.

I know there is another ranking done after Sunday's games are complete; is the record vs RRO based on this week's rankings?  With 3 of Trinity's 4 wins against teams at the bottom of their regions it's a question I'd like the answer to.   :)

There will technically be two rankings done... the RACs will meet Sunday morning to rank and give their "what if" rankings based on conference tournament games still to be played (which cause problems for the committees). The rankings will have vRRO data based on Week 3's rankings.

The national committee will start meeting in the afternoon at some point (both committees start at different times I have found) and they will adjust the rankings as they deem fit. THEN the vRRO data will be retabulated and combine Week 3's rankings and the rankings the national committee settles on. The national committee will then essentially redo the rankings (or tweak them) based on the updated vRRO data. When those rankings are set, they move forward. The vRRO data will NOT be readjusted again.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 27, 2020, 03:55:43 PM
Thanks, Dave - +1 

Enjoy the upcoming madness!   Not to mention the people blaming you, Gordon, and/or d3hoops.com Top 25 voters when their team doesn't make the NCAAs. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 27, 2020, 04:07:09 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 27, 2020, 03:55:43 PM
Thanks, Dave - +1 

Enjoy the upcoming madness!   Not to mention the people blaming you, Gordon, and/or d3hoops.com Top 25 voters when their team doesn't make the NCAAs.

Just to get it out of the way... I won't blame anything but the loss to Southwestern, not performing in this weekend's tournament (potentially, but hopefully not the case), and having our schedule wind up worse than expected if AC doesn't make the field!
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 27, 2020, 07:51:44 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 27, 2020, 03:55:43 PM
Thanks, Dave - +1 

Enjoy the upcoming madness!   Not to mention the people blaming you, Gordon, and/or d3hoops.com Top 25 voters when their team doesn't make the NCAAs.

I actually had someone on the phone mentioned to me that when "we" make decisions on final four sites for the future ...

I decided to cut him off to clarify it has nothing to do with us.

If I was paid accordingly, I would be happy to make my opinion known and make decisions ... but I'm not even paid. :)
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 28, 2020, 07:07:52 PM
TLU on an 8-0 run forcing Schreiner to take a timeout trailing 31-35 with 5:22 left in the third.   
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 28, 2020, 07:16:25 PM
TLU up 47-40 after three.   Abby Hroch went off in the third, has 8 boards and 21 points on 10-17 shooting.   Mountaineers having a hard time getting anything going on their end most of the quarter.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 28, 2020, 07:41:18 PM
TLU will have a chance to pull off the upset on Trinity for the second year running as they slide past Schreiner 73-61.   The Mountaineers kept trying to drive inside in the second half and TLU would have none of it (plus the Bulldogs are taller so WTF Schreiner?).   Refs definitely let both teams play in the second half, which was all I watched. 

Hroch didn't score in the fourth but still led all players with 23 and 9 boards.   Gabby Ivarra had 16 for Schreiner. 

Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 28, 2020, 09:09:15 PM
Interesting that you've mentioned TLU has always been the thorn in Trinity's side, while Southwestern has been AC's thorn the last couple years. If the second semifinal holds, both of the top seeds will get their perennial spoilers in the semifinals tomorrow.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 28, 2020, 10:09:03 PM
Quote from: jekelish on February 28, 2020, 09:09:15 PM
Interesting that you've mentioned TLU has always been the thorn in Trinity's side, while Southwestern has been AC's thorn the last couple years. If the second semifinal holds, both of the top seeds will get their perennial spoilers in the semifinals tomorrow.

Right you are.  From what I saw looks like SW was going inside almost every play in the 4th quarter.   Woolfolk just takes so much space, you can't let her get the ball deep.  Always amazes me that she never seems to foul out.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 29, 2020, 06:46:17 PM
One of the best defensive efforts from TU this year as they lead TLU 38-15 at the half, forcing 14 turnovers and holding TLU to 23% shooting (0-8 from beyond the arc).
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 29, 2020, 07:03:35 PM
Man do I hope AC can handle Southwestern so we can finally - FINALLY - get the AC/Trinity final that I've been waiting for for four years.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 29, 2020, 07:40:35 PM
TLU never got anything going in the second half and Trinity avenges their loss in last year's SCAC final, 87-54.  Hope they saved something for tomorrow!
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 29, 2020, 08:23:21 PM
Roos looked badly out of sync early but turned up the pressure and lead early in 2nd, 22-19.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 29, 2020, 08:46:24 PM
Southwestern had a 6 point lead late in the half but the Roos come back strong to take a 39-37 lead into the locker room.  Natalie McCoy (6-8, 2-2 from deep, 17 points) is killing it for AC.

SW will have to deal with foul trouble as both Woolfolk and Naomi Brown have three fouls.  Brown's third, a shoulder into an AC player late in the half right it front of a red, could prove costly.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 29, 2020, 08:52:21 PM
McCoy is small, but she's AC's best finisher around the bucket. She's also great at getting into the lane with her quickness and handle. Hopefully she'll keep attacking with both SW bigs in foul trouble, especially since she's an 83% FT shooter as well.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 29, 2020, 09:37:22 PM
Congrats, Jek!  Great game plan tonight. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 29, 2020, 10:11:07 PM
I think this is Trinity's best team since Monica and Micah were there together, but I'm hoping that AC can give them a hell of a fight tomorrow!
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 01, 2020, 05:13:58 PM
Congrats Jek!  We couldn't buy a three and AC didn't fold when we got close in the 4th.  Hope to see you again at UMHB.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on March 01, 2020, 09:17:44 PM
What are Trinity's chances of getting an at large bid?
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on March 01, 2020, 09:20:32 PM
Quote from: TroyP on March 01, 2020, 09:17:44 PM
What are Trinity's chances of getting an at large bid?

I think it'd be pretty shocking if they don't.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 01, 2020, 09:31:59 PM
Quote from: jekelish on March 01, 2020, 09:20:32 PM
Quote from: TroyP on March 01, 2020, 09:17:44 PM
What are Trinity's chances of getting an at large bid?

I think it'd be pretty shocking if they don't.

D3hoops gang has them as "shoe-in" on the women's conference summary page.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on March 01, 2020, 09:36:16 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on March 01, 2020, 09:31:59 PM
Quote from: jekelish on March 01, 2020, 09:20:32 PM
Quote from: TroyP on March 01, 2020, 09:17:44 PM
What are Trinity's chances of getting an at large bid?

I think it'd be pretty shocking if they don't.

D3hoops gang has them as "shoe-in" on the women's conference summary page.

A pod of Austin College, Trinity, Mary Hardin-Baylor, and UT-Dallas is my bet.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 01, 2020, 11:02:09 PM
Dave and his panel have Trinity as the 5th Pool C selection (of 20).

1.  Tufts
2.  Amherst
3.  UW-W
4.  Loras
5.  Trinity (TX)
6.  Trine
7.  UT-D
8.  Cortland

(list still being developed)

The key is where AC ends relative to Trinity and UT-D in the final vRRs (they won't jump UHMB).    Even with the win today, jumping from 9th above Trinity may not be in the cards, but UT-D would be possible.  That would leave UMHB Trinity AC UTD which would mean UMHB-AC and Trinity-UTD (also the same if UTD stays above AC somehow).  If AC does jump both that would give UMHB-Trinity, AC-UT-D. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on March 01, 2020, 11:48:06 PM
The stats of that game are crazy. Trinity had 101 FG Attempts to AC 66 FG Attempts. Trinity had 25 PF's to AC 19 PF's which makes since due to late game fouls, so AC went to the charity stripe 7 more times than Trinity. Trinity was out rebounded overall, but Trinity actually had  6 more offensive rebounds. If Trinity shoots anywhere close to their normal 3pt shooting % they win the game. Basically the ball didn't fall for Trinity.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 02, 2020, 12:03:52 AM
Quote from: TroyP on March 01, 2020, 11:48:06 PM
The stats of that game are crazy. Trinity had 101 FG Attempts to AC 66 FG Attempts. Trinity had 25 PF's to AC 19 PF's which makes since due to late game fouls, so AC went to the charity stripe 7 more times than Trinity. Trinity was out rebounded overall, but Trinity actually had  6 more offensive rebounds. If Trinity shoots anywhere close to their normal 3pt shooting % they win the game. Basically the ball didn't fall for Trinity.

I was there.  There were several possessions where Trinity did a great job on defense, AC was forced to take a near desperation three, nothing but net.  But make no mistake, AC controlled play most of the game.  TU played most of the first half on their heels before stepping up the intensity in the second but couldn't get over the hump.  A lot of the offensive rebounds came courtesy of Abby Holland who was desperate for someone, anyone to step up and help (especially in the first half), but as you say the threes just weren't falling (and AC's defensive scheme had something to do with this, too).   

Should Trinity have the good fortune to play AC again, they have to get more out of their other bigs.  4-16 from Simmons, Coleman, Milton can't happen again - and it's not fair to Abby to have to play 39 of 40 minutes.   More effective play inside would also free up their shooters.   
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 02, 2020, 06:49:16 AM
The d3hoops projected bracket (https://d3hoops.com/playoffs/women/2020/projected-womens-bracket) has UMHB-AC and Trinity-UTD.   Surprisingly, they have Trinity hosting; we'll see, I guess.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on March 02, 2020, 08:29:43 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on March 02, 2020, 06:49:16 AM
The d3hoops projected bracket (https://d3hoops.com/playoffs/women/2020/projected-womens-bracket) has UMHB-AC and Trinity-UTD.   Surprisingly, they have Trinity hosting; we'll see, I guess.

It's interesting for me to think about the fact that AC is the only team in that pod with wins against each of the other three, yet the 'Roos would essentially be the 4-seed in there.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 02, 2020, 09:33:07 AM
Quote from: jekelish on March 02, 2020, 08:29:43 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on March 02, 2020, 06:49:16 AM
The d3hoops projected bracket (https://d3hoops.com/playoffs/women/2020/projected-womens-bracket) has UMHB-AC and Trinity-UTD.   Surprisingly, they have Trinity hosting; we'll see, I guess.

It's interesting for me to think about the fact that AC is the only team in that pod with wins against each of the other three, yet the 'Roos would essentially be the 4-seed in there.

We picked Trinity simply because of the disparity in the rankings between Trinity and Austin.  We didn't think it was enough for the one game to bridge, but we could definitely be wrong about that.  The women's committee is much more difficult to predict on things like that.  Clearly the pod and the matchups are all but guaranteed, though.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on March 02, 2020, 10:25:08 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 02, 2020, 09:33:07 AM
Quote from: jekelish on March 02, 2020, 08:29:43 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on March 02, 2020, 06:49:16 AM
The d3hoops projected bracket (https://d3hoops.com/playoffs/women/2020/projected-womens-bracket) has UMHB-AC and Trinity-UTD.   Surprisingly, they have Trinity hosting; we'll see, I guess.

It's interesting for me to think about the fact that AC is the only team in that pod with wins against each of the other three, yet the 'Roos would essentially be the 4-seed in there.

We picked Trinity simply because of the disparity in the rankings between Trinity and Austin.  We didn't think it was enough for the one game to bridge, but we could definitely be wrong about that.  The women's committee is much more difficult to predict on things like that.  Clearly the pod and the matchups are all but guaranteed, though.

Oh, no doubt. And based on regional rankings, no argument from me. I'll be curious to see if UMHB can get the 1-seed in the pod based on winning their conference title, even though they've got losses to other teams in the pod. The only things I know for sure is that UTD is almost certainly the 3-seed, and Austin College is almost certainly the 4-seed. Like I said, AC really SHOULD be the 4-seed; I just thought it was an interesting tidbit that the 4-seed is the only team to have beaten each of the other teams in the quartet.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 02, 2020, 10:45:29 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 02, 2020, 09:33:07 AM
We picked Trinity simply because of the disparity in the rankings between Trinity and Austin.  We didn't think it was enough for the one game to bridge, but we could definitely be wrong about that.  The women's committee is much more difficult to predict on things like that.  Clearly the pod and the matchups are all but guaranteed, though.

Question for Ryan:  did your team consider the chance that HSU might end up in the vRR given that they beat UT-D, and a lot of teams at the bottom of the South Regional rankings lost?   If so, UMHB picked up two wins against vRRs this weekend (at least one, and Trinity a loss) so I'd be interested in why y'all thought Trinity still gets to host.    Guess we find out in about 4 hours tho.   :)
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 02, 2020, 10:49:20 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on March 02, 2020, 10:45:29 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 02, 2020, 09:33:07 AM
We picked Trinity simply because of the disparity in the rankings between Trinity and Austin.  We didn't think it was enough for the one game to bridge, but we could definitely be wrong about that.  The women's committee is much more difficult to predict on things like that.  Clearly the pod and the matchups are all but guaranteed, though.

Question for Ryan:  did your team consider the chance that HSU might end up in the vRR given that they beat UT-D, and a lot of teams at the bottom of the South Regional rankings lost?   If so, UMHB picked up two wins against vRRs this weekend (at least one, and Trinity a loss) so I'd be interested in why y'all thought Trinity still gets to host.    Guess we find out in about 4 hours tho.   :)

Full honesty.  We did not go that deep into it.  The matchups were going to be set; we made a hosting call.  There were a lot more complicated pods and we like to get the thing out as soon as possible given the short shelf life.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 02, 2020, 12:25:34 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 02, 2020, 10:49:20 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on March 02, 2020, 10:45:29 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 02, 2020, 09:33:07 AM
We picked Trinity simply because of the disparity in the rankings between Trinity and Austin.  We didn't think it was enough for the one game to bridge, but we could definitely be wrong about that.  The women's committee is much more difficult to predict on things like that.  Clearly the pod and the matchups are all but guaranteed, though.

Question for Ryan:  did your team consider the chance that HSU might end up in the vRR given that they beat UT-D, and a lot of teams at the bottom of the South Regional rankings lost?   If so, UMHB picked up two wins against vRRs this weekend (at least one, and Trinity a loss) so I'd be interested in why y'all thought Trinity still gets to host.    Guess we find out in about 4 hours tho.   :)

Full honesty.  We did not go that deep into it.  The matchups were going to be set; we made a hosting call.  There were a lot more complicated pods and we like to get the thing out as soon as possible given the short shelf life.

No worries.  I very much appreciate what you and Dave do and wish there were more people who paid attention to your hard and solid work on behalf of these student-athletes. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 02, 2020, 02:57:42 PM
And you were right, Trinity ends up hosting.   +1!

Trinity - UT-D
UMHB - Austin
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on March 02, 2020, 09:38:45 PM
Man, interesting development as San Antonio's mayor just declared a state of public health emergency over coronavirus... and the pod is, obviously, in San Antonio. I'm guessing there won't be any impact but man... if that had come out earlier I wonder if it would have meant the games would be in Belton.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 03, 2020, 10:28:45 AM
Quote from: jekelish on March 02, 2020, 09:38:45 PM
Man, interesting development as San Antonio's mayor just declared a state of public health emergency over coronavirus... and the pod is, obviously, in San Antonio. I'm guessing there won't be any impact but man... if that had come out earlier I wonder if it would have meant the games would be in Belton.

Yeah, this is an overreaction (and it pains me to say that since the mayor is a Trinity grad).   They have been getting shipped people from overseas by the CDC (such as from that cruise ship docked in Japan) and have been none too happy about the way things have been handled.   The quarantine has been at a local military base, but the CDC has decided that infected patients need to be taken to hospitals in town, with the town questioning why they aren't isolated on base.  What caused the "state of emergency" was that one of those released from quarantine was found to have a "mild positive" after being released and having gone to one of the local malls and potentially exposed some people.  That was 2-3 days ago, haven't heard of anyone else testing positive, but the city tried suing the CDC/feds to make them keep people in quarantine longer, which was thrown out by the court.

According to Johns Hopkins' excellent visual summary (https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6) that one case is the only one in San Antonio to date.  It certainly isn't like King County, WA where there have already been 5 deaths (and, hmm, maybe that is one reason they flew all the west coast teams back east). 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on March 06, 2020, 10:45:55 PM
Tough losses for AC and Trinity, who both seemed to have things go sideways after halftime.

The 'Roos will only lose Ann Savage next season, so they return roughly 90% of their scoring and, based on being a defending conference champ, an NCAA tourney team, and how much they return, I'd assume they'll likely be a preseason top 25 team heading into next year.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 07, 2020, 01:25:25 AM
And Trinity has to replace the #2 all-time scorer in program history.  No biggie.   The only other senior loss is hard-luck Anna Muller, who had to step down in mid-season after suffering a concussion in practice the week after the best game of her career. 

They can take inspiration from what AC did this year in replacing Bryce.  They've got the pieces (if Kelly Simmons recovers from what appeared to be a concussion tonight), but what they need is a leader on the floor.  Ashlyn Milton showed flashes this year, the question will be how she and the rest grow between now and next season. 

Until next year, Jek.   A pleasure as always.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 17, 2020, 12:04:45 PM
The D3hoops all-South Region team (https://www.d3hoops.com/awards/all-region/2019-20/south-women) is out.

In a first team with 3 guards, Abby Holland is the SCAC's sole representative (and sole forward).  Raenett Hughes of UT-Dallas, who almost singlehandedly beat Trinity in both of their games this season, was named MVP.

Colorado College's McKenzee Gertz makes the second team at forward and returns next year.

Austin's sharpshooting Kacie West was named to the third team and rounds out the SCAC's representation.   She's also back next year.

Players from provisional St. Thomas were (apparently) not eligible, which to me seems appropriate.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 17, 2020, 12:11:13 PM
That is correct on the eligibility -- only full members of Division III are eligible for the postseason awards.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on March 18, 2020, 09:11:32 PM
So with the tournament getting cancelled half way through, do you guys think the NCAA will let the Seniors come back next year, or will they just be done with their careers?
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 18, 2020, 10:51:24 PM
Quote from: TroyP on March 18, 2020, 09:11:32 PM
So with the tournament getting cancelled half way through, do you guys think the NCAA will let the Seniors come back next year, or will they just be done with their careers?

I'd be surprised if they got another year of eligibility.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 19, 2020, 02:15:21 PM
Quote from: TroyP on March 18, 2020, 09:11:32 PM
So with the tournament getting cancelled half way through, do you guys think the NCAA will let the Seniors come back next year, or will they just be done with their careers?

No... a vast majority of players had already finished their seasons. With both genders, there were only 32 teams still playing. Close to 850 had stopped.

And you can't just give it to seniors. You would probably have to hand it out to all players. So, we will have players who are in their fifth seasons ... for the next four years.

Nothing against winter athletes, but they played their seasons. I am sorry the championships were taken out from under all of them ... but it isn't like the spring where sports have been shut down just as they were getting going.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 19, 2020, 02:59:20 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 19, 2020, 02:15:21 PM
Quote from: TroyP on March 18, 2020, 09:11:32 PM
So with the tournament getting cancelled half way through, do you guys think the NCAA will let the Seniors come back next year, or will they just be done with their careers?

No... a vast majority of players had already finished their seasons. With both genders, there were only 32 teams still playing. Close to 850 had stopped.

And you can't just give it to seniors. You would probably have to hand it out to all players. So, we will have players who are in their fifth seasons ... for the next four years.

Nothing against winter athletes, but they played their seasons. I am sorry the championships were taken out from under all of them ... but it isn't like the spring where sports have been shut down just as they were getting going.
32 Co-champions...  ;D
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on March 19, 2020, 03:11:49 PM
Just a horrible situation for the Seniors still in the tourney, they have worked so hard for the opportunity to win a National Championship for the rug to just be pulled out from under them.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 19, 2020, 04:09:57 PM
In other news - Abby Holland of Trinity and Sheridan Hopkins of St. Thomas were today named honorable mention All-America by the WBCA.   https://wbca.org/about/press-releases/player-year-maddie-hasson-bowdoin-college-headlines-2020-wbca-division-iii
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 25, 2020, 08:11:41 AM
Abby was the only SCAC player named to the d3hoops.com All-America team (https://d3hoops.com/awards/all-americans/women/2020)s (men's or women's), landing a third-team nod yesterday.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on May 11, 2020, 07:50:30 PM
So apparently Abby Holland got it done in the classroom as well as she did the court  ;D

Last week it was announced that Abby was awarded the NCAA Jim McCay scholarship (https://trinitytx.prestosports.com/sports/wbkb/2019-20/releases/200504_mckay), given "by the NCAA to college athletes who demonstrate achievement in sports communication or public relations or hope to contribute to the field."   There is one female winner (and one male)  across all NCAA divisions. 

Today word comes that she was awarded an NCAA postgraduate scholarship (https://trinitytx.prestosports.com/sports/wbkb/2019-20/releases/200511_holland_post), one of 21 awarded to female winter sports participants across all divisions.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on October 19, 2020, 04:21:01 PM
While we wait to see what happens in the spring, the SCAC has its 2021 basketball schedules set and -- I really wonder if this is coincidence or if the SCAC did it intentionally -- the last game of the regular season is Austin College at Trinity.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jaybird44 on October 29, 2020, 11:15:54 PM
It seems that I have been the only member of the only (unofficial) fall sport at WashU, with my 100-mile ultramarathon attempt earlier this month to promote the fight for a cure during Rett Syndrome Awareness Month.  That attempt fell a bit short in miles and fundraising, so I'm going into overtime to try and reach $5,000 in donations.

Rett Gets Rocked 50K for $5K will commence Friday, October 30 at 8 pm Central, and end at 8 am Halloween morning.  Counting donations received (thanks to retired WashU men's basketball coach Mark Edwards and his wife Mary, and to Mike McGrath and his  University of Chicago men's basketball program for their donations!) and those yet to be sent and processed, I am at $4,440.53.  Very, very close to my goal...which will fund a researcher's work for a month.  Wouldn't it be cool if he or she cracked the code for a cure of Rett syndrome, on our dime?!

I reached 86 miles in my "Rett Gets Rocked Virtual Ultra Weekend" October 3-4.  I'm very proud of that result, but there's more work to be done.  Proceeds from the event will be split between Rettsyndrome.org (the only national organization spearheading research and providing resources for affected patients and their families) and the Rett Spectrum Clinic--a collaboration between the WashU School of Medicine and St. Louis Children's Hospital.

Rett syndrome is a rare, non-inherited neurological disorder that is caused by a gene mutation in the brain.  It primarily affects girls (1 in every 10,000 girls develop Rett).  It strikes typically when a child is 6-18 months old, and it has the characteristics of ALS, autism, epilepsy, and Parkinson's...all rolled into one sinister disorder.  It takes away the child's ability to move and communicate. 

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Thanks for your time and consideration, and hopefully there will be basketball to play and broadcast at the start of 2021!

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Event Director, Rett Gets Rocked 50K for $5K
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on November 05, 2020, 08:19:11 PM
Does anybody know where to find the new schedule.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 11, 2020, 03:05:10 PM
Quote from: TroyP on November 05, 2020, 08:19:11 PM
Does anybody know where to find the new schedule.

For whom?

Teams? Check their websites.

Conference? Team websites usually still the best along with D3hoops.com.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on November 11, 2020, 11:12:32 PM
I'm most interested in Trinity, it's not on their webpage that I have seen, but was curious about the overall SCAC schedule as well.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 13, 2020, 02:24:10 PM
Again  ... D3hoops.com is a GREAT resource. Here is what we have for Trinity: https://d3hoops.com/teams/Trinity_(Texas)/women/2020-21/index

And here is what we have for the conference: https://d3hoops.com/conf/SCAC/women/2020-21/schedule

Keep in mind ... subject to change... subject to additions that we get, find, or are submitted.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on November 23, 2020, 05:00:17 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 13, 2020, 02:24:10 PM
Again  ... D3hoops.com is a GREAT resource. Here is what we have for Trinity: https://d3hoops.com/teams/Trinity_(Texas)/women/2020-21/index

And here is what we have for the conference: https://d3hoops.com/conf/SCAC/women/2020-21/schedule

Keep in mind ... subject to change... subject to additions that we get, find, or are submitted.

Although go ahead and use pencil instead of pen if you're marking them on the calendar. A lot has changed in the last month or so, so it's still evolving. One I know people will likely be interested in: Austin College will now play Trinity twice, both games taking place in San Antonio on back to back days, which is a big change from the original schedule.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 24, 2020, 01:08:36 AM
Yeah, sadly I just don't see athletics being a thing in January with COVID taking off again in Texas and state leadership doing little else but wag their fingers at the problem.  It's already way worse than it was when they called off winter sports and the trend line is up up and up.  Daily case counts now exceed the maximum set last summer.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/texas-coronavirus-cases.html

I salute the schools and the conference for trying to do something to preserve the seasons, but unless something unexpectedly good happens in the next 30-45 days, there's not going to be a winter season in the SCAC. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 24, 2020, 09:08:42 AM
CUNYAC the latest to cancel their winter seasons, and I expect more to follow:  https://cunyathletics.com/news/2020/11/23/general-cunyac-winter-sports-statement.aspx
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 24, 2020, 03:35:22 PM
The unofficial count is 12 conferences have forgone their AQs for the tournament - 10 have done it by scuttling conference competition and 2 have done so by pushing seasons too far into the new year (March or later).

Only three conferences (SUNYAC, MASCAC, CUNYAC) have called off competition that also shut down all competition at their member institutions as well.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 07, 2020, 07:25:17 PM
The SCAC published a winter/spring sports update (https://www.scacsports.com/news/2020-2021/covid19_update7) today - basketball (for both men/women) will run 7 weeks starting January 15 with women's championships at Austin March 4-6.   12 conference games where two teams will play each other twice in a weekend with one team off each weekend.    Eight teams qualify for both the women's and men's championships.

Schedule:  https://www.scacsports.com/news/2020-2021/21basketball.pdf
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on December 17, 2020, 01:38:48 AM
Found out tonight, they will not allow any fans at the games, they are limiting the number of athletes to 15 that can suit up for away games. Of course subject to change. I sure hope this changes. I have only missed one of my daughters games in all the years she has played.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 17, 2020, 03:00:15 PM
Quote from: TroyP on December 17, 2020, 01:38:48 AM
Found out tonight, they will not allow any fans at the games, they are limiting the number of athletes to 15 that can suit up for away games. Of course subject to change. I sure hope this changes. I have only missed one of my daughters games in all the years she has played.

Honestly, I wouldn't plan on fans being in attendance. I would prepare for watching live streams. The risk goes up exponentially with fans in the stands especially at these smaller schools.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on January 12, 2021, 06:24:02 PM
Games start Friday, anyone have any thoughts on how the conference will shape up?
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 13, 2021, 10:05:14 AM
Quote from: TroyP on January 12, 2021, 06:24:02 PM
Games start Friday, anyone have any thoughts on how the conference will shape up?

I imagine it will be Austin and Trinity again.  AC has a huge roster (>20) and it looks like everyone except G Ann Savage returns.  Trinity also has a large roster - a few less than AC, but still >20 - but has to overcome the loss of Abby Holland.  Ashlyn Milton has a chance to perform a similar role; she showed potential last season if she can be more consistent in her play with a year under her belt.   Trinity also picked up sophomore Maggie Shipley (http://amherstc.sidearmsports.com/sports/womens-basketball/roster/maggie-shipley/13517), a transfer G with size (6'0") from Amherst, and junior Carly Leong (https://www.sagehens.com/sports/wbkb/2019-20/bios/leong_carly_rhs9), a 5'9" transfer G from Pomona-Pitzer who was SCIAC Newcomer of the year two seasons ago and led the Sagehens in scoring in her two seasons there.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on January 13, 2021, 10:43:45 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on January 13, 2021, 10:05:14 AM
Quote from: TroyP on January 12, 2021, 06:24:02 PM
Games start Friday, anyone have any thoughts on how the conference will shape up?

I imagine it will be Austin and Trinity again.  AC has a huge roster (>20) and it looks like everyone except G Ann Savage returns.  Trinity also has a large roster - a few less than AC, but still >20 - but has to overcome the loss of Abby Holland.  Ashlyn Milton has a chance to perform a similar role; she showed potential last season if she can be more consistent in her play with a year under her belt.   Trinity also picked up sophomore Maggie Shipley (http://amherstc.sidearmsports.com/sports/womens-basketball/roster/maggie-shipley/13517), a transfer G with size (6'0") from Amherst, and junior Carly Leong (https://www.sagehens.com/sports/wbkb/2019-20/bios/leong_carly_rhs9), a 5'9" transfer G from Pomona-Pitzer who was SCIAC Newcomer of the year two seasons ago and led the Sagehens in scoring in her two seasons there.

After evaluating Maggie her rising junior summer AAU season, she made my list of promising prospects; she's the second on the Trinity roster to do so, the other being Kelly Simmons.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 13, 2021, 04:34:16 PM
SCAC men's preseason poll out today, so should get the women's in a day or two. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 13, 2021, 05:11:49 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on January 13, 2021, 10:05:14 AM
Quote from: TroyP on January 12, 2021, 06:24:02 PM
Games start Friday, anyone have any thoughts on how the conference will shape up?

I imagine it will be Austin and Trinity again.  AC has a huge roster (>20) and it looks like everyone except G Ann Savage returns.  Trinity also has a large roster - a few less than AC, but still >20 - but has to overcome the loss of Abby Holland.  Ashlyn Milton has a chance to perform a similar role; she showed potential last season if she can be more consistent in her play with a year under her belt.   Trinity also picked up sophomore Maggie Shipley (http://amherstc.sidearmsports.com/sports/womens-basketball/roster/maggie-shipley/13517), a transfer G with size (6'0") from Amherst, and junior Carly Leong (https://www.sagehens.com/sports/wbkb/2019-20/bios/leong_carly_rhs9), a 5'9" transfer G from Pomona-Pitzer who was SCIAC Newcomer of the year two seasons ago and led the Sagehens in scoring in her two seasons there.

Cameron definitely seems to have a knack for landing high quality transfers. Micah remains one of the best players I've seen in the league, and these two new additions sound like similarly strong additions. I'm guessing Shipley decided to find a new home since Amherst isn't playing this year.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 13, 2021, 10:17:13 PM
Quote from: jekelish on January 13, 2021, 05:11:49 PM
Cameron definitely seems to have a knack for landing high quality transfers. Micah remains one of the best players I've seen in the league, and these two new additions sound like similarly strong additions. I'm guessing Shipley decided to find a new home since Amherst isn't playing this year.

I can't deny the truth of your observation, but Micah was a gift that really fell into their lap.  She had played a couple of years at D2 TAMU-Kingsville and lost her joy for the game, transferred to D1 UTSA where she wasn't playing.  After seeing Trinity play UTSA pretty close in its preseason exhibition (she was a videographer for the athletic department), she went to Trinity later that year, primarily to see D1 Incarnate Word play.  Between that game (an unexpected win for Trinity) and what she had seen earlier in the season she fell in love with the way the team played, and called up Coach Cam shortly thereafter.  The rest is history - her game and regained passion for it were a joy to observe.   
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 14, 2021, 08:27:38 AM

Gordon would have to confirm, but we went to an Amherst game last season together and I believe Shipley was the player about whom he said, "she's going to be the next Amherst star."  She was definitely impressive and will almost certainly make a difference at Trinity.  I wonder how long it takes to unlearn the Amherst system (although hopefully not the defense)?
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 14, 2021, 01:53:13 PM
Austin College just barely edges out Trinity in the preseason voting (61 points to 60): https://www.scacsports.com/sports/wbkb/2020-21/releases/PreseasonPoll
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 14, 2021, 02:27:46 PM
Quote from: jekelish on January 14, 2021, 01:53:13 PM
Austin College just barely edges out Trinity in the preseason voting (61 points to 60): https://www.scacsports.com/sports/wbkb/2020-21/releases/PreseasonPoll

That's pretty much the top 3 I would have chosen.   Trinity is fortunate to get both Austin and Colorado at home this season, but AC gets the tournament.   Even lacking fans I'd rather be playing at home than dealing with COVID measures on the road. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 14, 2021, 04:38:03 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on January 14, 2021, 02:27:46 PM
Quote from: jekelish on January 14, 2021, 01:53:13 PM
Austin College just barely edges out Trinity in the preseason voting (61 points to 60): https://www.scacsports.com/sports/wbkb/2020-21/releases/PreseasonPoll

That's pretty much the top 3 I would have chosen.   Trinity is fortunate to get both Austin and Colorado at home this season, but AC gets the tournament.   Even lacking fans I'd rather be playing at home than dealing with COVID measures on the road.

Agreed. AC and Trinity are the obvious top two (on paper, in whichever order you prefer), and as long as Gertz is there, Colorado College seems like the odds on favorite to be the third team in the mix.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 15, 2021, 09:12:48 AM
Quote from: jekelish on January 14, 2021, 04:38:03 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on January 14, 2021, 02:27:46 PM
Quote from: jekelish on January 14, 2021, 01:53:13 PM
Austin College just barely edges out Trinity in the preseason voting (61 points to 60): https://www.scacsports.com/sports/wbkb/2020-21/releases/PreseasonPoll

That's pretty much the top 3 I would have chosen.   Trinity is fortunate to get both Austin and Colorado at home this season, but AC gets the tournament.   Even lacking fans I'd rather be playing at home than dealing with COVID measures on the road.

Agreed. AC and Trinity are the obvious top two (on paper, in whichever order you prefer), and as long as Gertz is there, Colorado College seems like the odds on favorite to be the third team in the mix.

I totally forgot about St. Thomas, who beat both TU and AC last season but weren't eligible for the SCAC championship.  Trinity draws them this weekend, but with the Celts losing both All-SCAC Sheridan Thomas and the conference DPOY Jazz Taylor, it will be interesting to see what they can bring to the table in their first year of SCAC tourney eligibility.   
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 15, 2021, 06:45:06 PM
Trinity couldn't buy a basket early, trailing 10-2 at one point, and didn't take a lead until late in the first half, but behind 15 from Maggie Shipley, mostly during a 27-4 third quarter, almost double up St. Thomas, 73-38.

Shipley indeed is a player, and I look forward to seeing her the rest of the season.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 15, 2021, 08:26:44 PM
Similar shaky start for Austin College. Couldn't buy a basket early and Dallas jumped ahead 22-11, but the 'Roos dominated from there for a 93-73 win.

I'll tell you what, Dallas is definitely not finishing last in the SCAC, like the preseason poll projects. They are SIGNIFICANTLY improved. They've got some solid players and multiple shooters. I think when it's all said and done they'll be around the 5-7 range in terms of where they finish.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jester1390 on January 15, 2021, 09:06:30 PM
Scoring is way up in hcac and I imagine everywhere with no scrimmages defense seems to be suffering I would have to double check bit a lot of game both teams in the 60 or 70
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 15, 2021, 11:20:08 PM
Quote from: jekelish on January 15, 2021, 08:26:44 PM
Similar shaky start for Austin College. Couldn't buy a basket early and Dallas jumped ahead 22-11, but the 'Roos dominated from there for a 93-73 win.

I'll tell you what, Dallas is definitely not finishing last in the SCAC, like the preseason poll projects. They are SIGNIFICANTLY improved. They've got some solid players and multiple shooters. I think when it's all said and done they'll be around the 5-7 range in terms of where they finish.

I saw their numbers were up a bit, though they are very young and don't have many returners.  I hope you are right, they have had a few tough years in Dallas.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 16, 2021, 04:38:01 PM
Much better performance from Austin College today, and UD came back down to Earth a bit shooting the ball with an 86-52 final in Sherman. Keep an eye on 'Roo freshman Megan O'Neil out of Coppell, she's scored 15 in each of her first two games and is 6-of-11 on threes. Gonna be a heck of a player.

Dallas is still much improved - they're just very young and inexperienced, but they have some solid players and in a year or two have a chance to be in the mix for a top 4 or 5 seed in the tournament. I honestly believe that. Lots of youthful mistakes today but they've got some pretty good young players.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 22, 2021, 07:39:40 PM
CC with the big upset at Trinity 57-55 as Ashlyn Milton's wide open (but deep) three rims out at the buzzer.  CC outrebounded Trinity 56-34, Trinity's defensive pressure didn't phase CC especially in the 2nd half (2 steals), and a bizarre shooting night where Trinity shoots a boatload of threes (10-32) and a subpar 9-37 inside the arc.   Shipley was 1-12 and was pressing hard as the game went on.  Emily Daniel (16 on 6-15) and Ashlyn Milton (12 on 4-11) were the only home Tigers in double figures;  CC got 14 from Braley, 12 from Cloud, 10 from Faneli.

Colorado doesn't play Austin, so tomorrow's result may have a lot to say about who ends up with the top seed in the tournament.

Edit:  Trinity went scoreless the last 2:28, missed 12 of their last 13 shots, and scored one point in the last 6:39.   
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 22, 2021, 11:48:45 PM
Austin College pretty much dominated against Southwestern but the score wound up being closer than they'd have liked, winning 66-59 in Sherman. It was a 15 point game with about six minutes left before the Pirates started chipping away, as Austin College had an uncharacteristically poor performance at the free throw line (11-of-22 overall) and were unable to ice the game. In particular, Kacie West - who last year shot 81% from the line - was, shockingly, 0-for-5 tonight.

Ally Longaker continued her strong start to the year, scoring 21 points and grabbing 9 rebounds, but she was likewise poor from the FT line. Last year she shot 75%, tonight she was just 5-of-11. All 11 of Austin College's missed free throws came from those two seniors.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 23, 2021, 03:17:44 PM
Another loss for Trinity today, this time in OT 61-64, after an open J in the lane wouldn't fall for Hailey Coleman as regulation wound down.   TU had a 13-point lead midway through the third quarter but once again the offense stalled late and Colorado took advantage.   The difference today, other than Trinity's poor shooting, was a 21-7 advantage at the line for the visitors - and Trinity helped by missing all but 2 of theirs.   Three of Colorado's starters played more than 40 minutes with Anna Fanelli (13 pts, 6 ast, 6 reb) once again playing every possession.  Rosie Braley and McKenzie Gertz each had 16 points and 9 boards to lead the way for the visitors, who held on despite scoring no field goals in the last 4:01.

After being outrebounded badly last night, Trinity managed to keep the  margin close (36-41) today.  Ashlyn Milton had 14, Jordan Rudd 13 for Trinity, who have yet to find the offensive flow that makes them so dangerous.   Part of that comes from Colorado limiting the damage from Trinity's press (14 steals, 26 total turnovers today), but for the second day little fell for the home team (26-78 [33.3%] overall, 7-27 from beyond the arc) despite good opportunities throughout.  The normally resilient bench contributed only 19 points with Maggie Shipley (10 points) leading the way.   That's an improvement over yesterday, when the bench had a *total* of 4 points, but is something to pay attention to the rest of the season.   
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
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Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 29, 2021, 08:27:44 PM
Trinity looked more themselves tonight against TLU, especially in the first half, winning handily 78-52 with everyone seeing lots of playing time.  Emily Daniels had 13, Jordan Rudd and Ashlyn Milton 12 each as Trinity shot over 56% on the evening while holding TLU under 35%.  Tigers didn't press a whole lot tonight, possibly because Mel Dixon's teams handle that pressure pretty well.  Abby Hroch led all scorers with 14 for TLU.

0-4 Southwestern now 1-4 after defeating Colorado College in the thin air, 65-58 as Noel Pratts had 19.   The mountain Tigers, who seemingly couldn't miss against Trinity last week (especially in the second game), struggled to shoot 30% at home tonight.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 02, 2021, 12:55:12 PM
AC comes in at #9 in the first D3Hoops Top 10 of the year, with two votes for #1 (which I found interesting). The 'Roos were off this past weekend and head to St. Thomas this week for their first road games of the year. They've been hit by the injury bug quite a bit this year so hopefully they'll be able to get through this weekend and be back to nearly full strength by the time they have to head to Trinity.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 03, 2021, 07:44:46 PM
No winter sports championships in D3.

https://twitter.com/d3hoops/status/1357120361456939010?s=21
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 04, 2021, 09:34:45 AM
Not at all surprised, honestly. Given the lack of teams playing across the country, combined with the fact that the NCAA would have to foot the bill without having the cash flow from last year's March Madness and College World Series, this always felt inevitable to me.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 04, 2021, 12:24:40 PM
Quote from: jekelish on February 04, 2021, 09:34:45 AM
Not at all surprised, honestly. Given the lack of teams playing across the country, combined with the fact that the NCAA would have to foot the bill without having the cash flow from last year's March Madness and College World Series, this always felt inevitable to me.

As I understand it ... College World Series doesn't bring much into the NCAA. Ticket sales certainly help, but the package deal with ESPN is closer to a trade out, as I've been told, than what CBS/Turner have arranged - which is a flat out buying of the rights.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 11, 2021, 12:25:10 PM
Shouldn't come as a surprise for anyone watching the horrific wrecks on the highway between Fort Worth and San Antonio, but tomorrow night's games between Austin College and San Antonio have been canceled. AC is still going to try to get down to San Antonio in time for Saturday's games.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 13, 2021, 09:06:43 AM
Quote from: jekelish on February 11, 2021, 12:25:10 PM
Shouldn't come as a surprise for anyone watching the horrific wrecks on the highway between Fort Worth and San Antonio, but tomorrow night's games between Austin College and San Antonio have been canceled. AC is still going to try to get down to San Antonio in time for Saturday's games.

And, in fact, AC at TU is the only game still on the schedule today.  UST-TLU, SW-UD, SU-CC have all called off today's games.   Here's to AC getting back after today's game in time to beat the nasty weather that's supposed to arrive late tonight and tomorrow (same for their swimming/diving teams in San Antonio, and for Trinity's volleyball team that's playing today in Sherman).
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on February 14, 2021, 01:01:47 AM
 Watched the replay of AC/TU tonight to see how Simmons and Shipley were doing. Looks like they play the 2nd half of each period. Kelly's defensive energy reminded me of her AAU days; uncommon for a "big".
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 15, 2021, 12:54:15 PM
With yesterday's result AC and TU are tied ... for third in the SCAC.   The co-leaders were supposed to play this weekend but called off their games (with good reason).   Schreiner has to play TLU and at Trinity, Colorado heads to UST this weekend before ending the season with Dallas. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on February 22, 2021, 05:15:00 PM
Will there still be a SCAC tournament?
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 22, 2021, 06:11:27 PM
Quote from: TroyP on February 22, 2021, 05:15:00 PM
Will there still be a SCAC tournament?

We haven't heard any different, and it was still on the schedule when I was on the SCAC site earlier today.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 23, 2021, 12:35:57 PM
SCAC has been solid about having tourneys this season ... like swimming & diving the weekend the Great Freeze of '21 got started.   Seeding will be fun given the differing number of games played but they'll figure it out. 

Lordy it would be nice if they would open it up to fans but I doubt they'll do it, even with COVID numbers on the decline they're still high.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 23, 2021, 04:23:55 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 23, 2021, 12:35:57 PM
SCAC has been solid about having tourneys this season ... like swimming & diving the weekend the Great Freeze of '21 got started.   Seeding will be fun given the differing number of games played but they'll figure it out. 

Lordy it would be nice if they would open it up to fans but I doubt they'll do it, even with COVID numbers on the decline they're still high.

At this point, Colorado College is almost certainly gonna be locked into the 1 seed, and Trinity the 2. CC has two home games against UD, so they should finish the season 7-1, and Schreiner and Trinity play, which I'm expecting to be two wins for Trinity, which puts TU at 7-2 and Schreiner at 5-3. If Schreiner steals one, that's when things get interesting. AC hasn't been playing great lately, in large part because they've had some significant injuries, so I wouldn't be surprised by them having a tough time at TLU this weekend. I'm hoping they sweep the weekend, but if they split, and Schreiner steals one from Trinity, then Schreiner will be the 3 and AC will be the 4 by virtue of how they each did against Trinity.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 23, 2021, 04:54:24 PM
SCAC this afternoon announced format changes for basketball tournaments:
https://bit.ly/3kfAaGW

" [...]this year the top eight men's and women's teams will qualify for the postseason conference tournament which will stretch over three weekends.

First round play will be conducted the weekend of March 5-7, semifinals are scheduled for March 12-14 and the men's and women's championship will occur the weekend of March 19-21. The top four seeds will host first round games on both the men's and women's side, and the top remaining seeds will host semifinal and championship rounds."

Also, St. Thomas will be eligible since there is no NCAA postseason.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 28, 2021, 08:35:02 AM
With one game left that won't in all probability impact the conference standings, the seedings for next week's conference championship first round are set:

(8) Southwestern (2-6) at (1) Colorado College (6-1)
(7) Dallas (3-6) at (2) Trinity (7-2)
(6) St Thomas (4-4) at (3) Schreiner (6-3)
(5) Austin (5-4) at (4) TLU (5-3)

It's theoretically possible CC could end up at 6-2 should UD upset them today, but after yesterday's 26-point blowout this seems highly unlikely. 

I was happy to see Centenary finally get a W on their Senior Day against StT yesterday.   They came pretty darned close to breaking into the win column the previous night with the Celts scoring the winning basket with under a second to play. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 28, 2021, 06:06:13 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 28, 2021, 08:35:02 AM
With one game left that won't in all probability impact the conference standings, the seedings for next week's conference championship first round are set:

(8) Southwestern (2-6) at (1) Colorado College (6-1)
(7) Dallas (3-6) at (2) Trinity (7-2)
(6) St Thomas (4-4) at (3) Schreiner (6-3)
(5) Austin (5-4) at (4) TLU (5-3)

It's theoretically possible CC could end up at 6-2 should UD upset them today, but after yesterday's 26-point blowout this seems highly unlikely. 

Narrator:  but Dallas *would* go on to upset Colorado College 79-61 (https://www.scacsports.com/sports/wbkb/2020-21/boxscores/20210228_g66v.xml?view=boxscore), handing the top seed to Trinity and setting up a rematch next week in Colorado Springs. 

Edit:  I also misstated Schreiner's record; they're 5-3, not 6-3.   Trying to figure out the tiebreaker, both 0-2 against Trinity, neither played Colorado or each other, so it comes down to record against Austin which goes in TLU's favor (2-0 vs. DNP).    Austin has to be happier facing the Mountaineers in the first round than the Bulldogs.

(8) Southwestern (2-6) at (1) Trinity (7-2)
(7) Dallas (4-6) at (2) Colorado College (6-2)
(6) St Thomas (4-4) at (3) TLU (5-3)
(5) Austin (5-4) at (4) Schreiner (5-3)
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on March 05, 2021, 02:26:48 PM
The SCAC has officially limited the number of girls on the bench, no matter if you are hosting or traveling. This has to be the dumbest decision ever. These girls practice with each other every day, but yet can't sit on the bench!
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 05, 2021, 02:33:53 PM
St. Thomas at TLU has been cancelled due to COVID concerns.   TLU will advance to play the winner of CC-UD.

https://twitter.com/SCAC_Sports/status/1367905735896690692
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on March 05, 2021, 04:13:17 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on March 05, 2021, 02:33:53 PM
St. Thomas at TLU has been cancelled due to COVID concerns.   TLU will advance to play the winner of CC-UD.

https://twitter.com/SCAC_Sports/status/1367905735896690692

What is wild is that, in theory, someone could win the conference tournament without ever playing a game if enough teams have to bow out due to Covid at the "right" time.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on March 06, 2021, 05:50:15 PM
Colorado College advances due to Covid related protocols. What's unfortunate is that, as I understand it, Dallas was already in Colorado Springs.

Austin College with a pretty convincing win over Schreiner 80-63 to take on Trinity. So TLU and Colorado on one side, with neither team having to play to advance, while Austin College and Trinity will be on the other side of the bracket. Austin College got some players back from injury today, including one starter and one key reserve, and it clearly helped.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 07, 2021, 10:11:18 AM
Quote from: TroyP on March 05, 2021, 02:26:48 PM
The SCAC has officially limited the number of girls on the bench, no matter if you are hosting or traveling. This has to be the dumbest decision ever. These girls practice with each other every day, but yet can't sit on the bench!

I don't know what the number is for SCAC play, but in NCAA Tournament games you can only suit up 15. The SCAC is not the only conference to limit number of players in uniform.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 08, 2021, 11:01:12 AM
Trinity has recently had to cancel a number of games due to COVID-related reasons (according to the school paper the campus suffered somewhat of an outbreak thanks to the recent weather disaster), so I'm hoping that both of their basketball teams can stay healthy.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 11, 2021, 03:42:11 PM
All-SCAC Teams (https://www.scacsports.com/sports/wbkb/2020-21/releases/21allscac) have been announced.

POTY:  McKenzee Gertz, (Sr. G/F), Colorado College
Newcomer (tie):  Audrey Bayston (FY G) Colorado College; Addy Tremie, Centenary College, (FY G)
DPOY:  Jordan Rudd (Sr. G), Trinity
COTY:  Bri Calver, University of Dallas

2020-21 ALL-SCAC FIRST TEAM
McKenzee Gertz, Colorado College, 5-11, Sr., Guard/Forward  Fort Collins, Colo.
Reagan Chiaverini, Austin College, 5-10, Sr., Forward, Parker, Colo.
Jordan Rudd, Trinity, 5-6, Sr., Guard, Brownsville, Texas
Lauren Fulenwider, Southwestern, 5-5, Jr., Guard, Abilene, Texas
Hailey Coleman, Trinity, 6-0, Jr., Center, Kansas City, Mo.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on March 11, 2021, 03:51:35 PM
Well deserved for Coach Calver. From seeing UD play in the opening games of the year, it was clear they were DRAMATICALLY better than last season.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 14, 2021, 07:47:08 PM
Trinity gets past Austin 70-60 and will host Colorado College for the SCAC championship next weekend.   The Tigers were led by 15 from both SCAC DPOY Jordan Rudd, and from Maggie Shipley, part of a 28-13 bench advantage for the victors.  Austin's Sarah Gwin led all scorers with 19, and Ally Longaker added 17.   After missing all nine of their threes in the first half, Trinity went 6-10 from beyond the arc in the second half.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 22, 2021, 09:32:31 AM
Despite getting almost nothing from their bench (9 points) yesterday, Trinity jumped out to a double-digit lead most of the game and this time withstood Colorado College's second-half comeback to post a 73-63 win, clinching the SCAC tournament championship to go along with their regular season crown.   

Trinity led by 15 midway through the third before Colorado made its push, with conference newcomer-of-the-year Audrey Bayston doing most of the damage with a pair of threes, a layup, and four of five FTs to close the lead to six at the end of the quarter.   From there it was a see-saw affair with Colorado closing to within four at the three-minute mark before Jordan Rudd would drain a three off a long pass with the shot clock expiring plus getting a steal on the ensuing play to stop the bleeding.  The visitors would close to within four again with under a minute to play, but Trinity would hit all of its free throws down the stretch to post the final margin of victory.

With a career-high (and Trinity leading) 22 points to go with 6 rebounds, Jordan Rudd was named tournament MVP.   Also named to the SCAC all-Tournament team:  Trinity's Ashlyn Milton (19 points yesterday including 5-of-6 late FTs) and Hailey Coleman (10 points yesterday); Colorado College's Audrey Bayston (a game high 25 points including 4-of-5 3FG) and Anna Fanelli (11 points, 7 assists, 7 rebounds); and Austin College's Reagan Chiaverini.

Besides Rudd, Trinity graduates three seniors (Emily Daniels, Julia Ackerman, and Annie Wise).  Rudd's floor leadership and defense will be the hardest thing to replace, but the cupboard is still pretty full and I'd expect the two transfers to play a larger role next season. Colorado loses Abby Walz and McKenzie Gertz, who had early foul trouble yesterday but still chipped in 11 points.   Colorado's challenge will be to develop some depth next year as only eight players saw the floor yesterday and that was pretty much the case all season for them (in the entire season only ten players saw court time for CC).
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on March 22, 2021, 10:53:18 PM
Super excited for Trinity! The last two games against Austin and Colorado College I thought were the best two games they played in this shortened season. According to my daughter Julia Ackerman is coming back for a 5th season because of the new COVID changes. Her understanding is that the other three Seniors have all been accepted into Masters Programs and will hang it up. What a great group of Seniors they have been, my daughter and the 4 other Freshman have some big shoes to try and fill over the next several years as they find their roles on this deep roster!
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 23, 2021, 09:17:54 AM
Good news on Ackerman returning, thanks, Troy.   Hopefully your daughter will see more playing time next season - it's tough for a first year to get much PT at Trinity but in a normal season there are usually enough blowouts to get some time on the floor.   We all know this was far from a normal season ...

This season was an outlier for Trinity for even more reasons than COVID.   It's been close to a decade since they didn't have an absolute go-to player they could almost always depend on in tough situations.   Before Abby Holland, it was Micah Weaver, prior to Micah it was Monica Holguin, prior to that Anecia Richardson and Hannah Coley.  This year was much more a balanced effort (only two players averaged double figures, and barely at that) and it took them a while to find that balance.   It will be interesting to see if anyone develops into that go-to player next season - there are certainly some candidates - or if they will have to continue with the 'offense by committee' approach they had to use this year. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 27, 2021, 12:58:27 PM
The SCAC announced its 30th anniversary basketball teams (https://www.scacsports.com/awardsHonors/anniversary30/wbkb) yesterday - there have been a lot of talented women in the conference, and it couldn't have been easy to narrow the list down to these 15.   As a reminder, the 30th anniversary teams cover just the last 15 years, as the conference announced similar all-star teams during the 2005-6 academic year. 

Bryce Frank, Austin College – Forward **
Monica Holguin, Trinity University – Guard **
Maggie Prewitt, Centre College – Guard **
Liz Bondi, DePauw University – Forward **
Abby Holland, Trinity University – Forward *
Katie Kulavic, Oglethorpe University – Guard *
Micah Weaver, Trinity University – Guard *
Katy Williams, Austin College – Forward *
Melanie Auguste, Colorado College – Guard *
Chelsea Leeder, Southwestern University – Forward *
Anecia Richardson, Trinity University – Center *
Anna Findley, Oglethorpe University – Guard
Annie Bourne, Southwestern University – Forward
Krista Prato Matthews – Trinity University – Forward

* - Player-of-the-Year honor(s)

Details about the careers of these outstanding performers are available at the link above. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Riley Zayas on April 20, 2021, 08:47:46 PM
Some scheduling news: Trinity to host its annual tournament this year on November 5-6. UMHB will be in attendance.

https://truetothecru.com/2021/04/20/umhb-womens-basketball-to-play-in-trinitys-tournament-in-november/
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on April 29, 2021, 12:05:22 PM
Congrats to Colorado College's McKenzee Gertz, today named to the  D3hoops.com All-America third team (https://d3hoops.com/awards/all-americans/women/2021).  She was the SCAC's sole representative (appropriately so).
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: gordonmann on April 29, 2021, 12:48:45 PM
Thanks, Ron.

It was really tough to put these teams together this year with such little information in terms of crossover games, postseason results, etc.

McKenzee had a great season for CC.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on August 03, 2021, 09:40:25 PM
Does anyone know if Trinity's 2021-22 schedule is out yet? I see several other schools have theirs posted. Thanks
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Riley Zayas on August 10, 2021, 11:45:28 AM
I haven't seen it come out. The only part of Trinity's schedule I can confirm is their annual tournament, which will feature UMHB and be held Nov. 5-6 in San Antonio.

https://truetothecru.com/2021/04/20/umhb-womens-basketball-to-play-in-trinitys-tournament-in-november/
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on October 13, 2021, 12:55:03 PM
Mel Dixon has stepped down after 47 years in the coaching ranks, the last 9 at Texas Lutheran including 2 SCAC Tournament championships:  https://scacsports.com/sports/wbkb/2021-22/releases/dixon_retires

TLU assistant Troy Patterson replaces Dixon:  https://tlubulldogs.com/sports/wbkb/2021-22/releases/20211012tz1o9d


Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on October 13, 2021, 01:03:20 PM
Quote from: TroyP on August 03, 2021, 09:40:25 PM
Does anyone know if Trinity's 2021-22 schedule is out yet? I see several other schools have theirs posted. Thanks

Trinity's schedule is now up (not sure when it was posted):   https://www.trinitytigers.com/sports/wbkb/2021-22/schedule - though it has Trinity playing at UMHB on Nov 5 vs. ETBU and against UMHB on Nov 6th; UMHB's site says they play Trinity in Belton on the 5th so there's something wrong with one of the two.   Doesn't look like Trinity is hosting a tournament this season; going to Pacific OR for a couple of games the week before Thanksgiving. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on October 13, 2021, 06:22:37 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on October 13, 2021, 12:55:03 PM
Mel Dixon has stepped down after 47 years in the coaching ranks, the last 9 at Texas Lutheran including 2 SCAC Tournament championships:  https://scacsports.com/sports/wbkb/2021-22/releases/dixon_retires

TLU assistant Troy Patterson replaces Dixon:  https://tlubulldogs.com/sports/wbkb/2021-22/releases/20211012tz1o9d

Congrats to Mel on a great career... really good dude, from my limited interactions with him!
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on October 18, 2021, 06:15:23 PM
Preseason top 25 is out, and Austin College has a challenging November, to say the least. Three of their first five opponents are ranked in the top 15 (in order of when they play: #15 UTD, #4 Whitman, #2 ETBU), as well as Rhodes, who is receiving votes. Lots of chances to make a statement for the 'Roos in November.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on October 18, 2021, 08:22:00 PM
Quote from: jekelish on October 18, 2021, 06:15:23 PM
Preseason top 25 is out, and Austin College has a challenging November, to say the least. Three of their first five opponents are ranked in the top 15 (in order of when they play: #15 UTD, #4 Whitman, #2 ETBU), as well as Rhodes, who is receiving votes. Lots of chances to make a statement for the 'Roos in November.

Have to say that I'm a bit surprised at the SCAC's lack of presence in the poll - didn't expect top 10 but nobody in top 25 is a surprise.  Trinity lost three to graduation but only two saw much playing time, of which Jordan Rudd, who was first team all-SCAC and conference DPOY, the most significant loss.  Everyone else is back from last year's team with the exception of a player who never set foot on the court.  Colorado lost two, the big one being SCAC POTY McKenzee Gertz, but they too return everyone from last year's young team and have a boatload of new talent that will make its presence known as the season progresses if last year is any indication.  I guess Austin suffered the most, losing all-SCAC performers Reagan Chiaverini and Ally Longaker along with several other seniors though all-SCAC Kacie West is returning for a super senior year.

Trinity's first game is against ETBU (at the UMHB tournament), RV UMHB is next, then #14 HSU; three lesser opponents (McMurry and a weekend tournament in Oregon) followed by nearly a month off.   The next game after the break is the conference opener in Sherman on Dec 17. 

It's going to be interesting to see what the coaches' poll says when it comes out next month.  Can Dallas continue their upward momentum?   How does TLU fare without the calming presence of Mel Dixon?  Does Southwestern come back from the wilderness after four years of declining performance, or do the Pirates look for a new coach if this year is as disastrous as last year's 2-7?  And what about Schreiner, St. Thomas, and Centenary?
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on October 19, 2021, 09:37:58 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on October 18, 2021, 08:22:00 PM
I guess Austin suffered the most, losing all-SCAC performers Reagan Chiaverini and Ally Longaker along with several other seniors though all-SCAC Kacie West is returning for a super senior year.

The 'Roos also get Natalie McCoy, the SCAC Tourney MVP two years ago, back for her senior year after she missed all of last season due to injury. They've also got a D2 transfer coming into the mix from Southeastern Oklahoma, who should certainly help. It'll be finding some rebounding to replace Chiaverini and Longaker where the 'Roos might end up struggling the most, I think.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on October 24, 2021, 12:39:17 PM
Jordan Rudd is actually playing at UT Dallas as a graduate transfer.
Centenary had a coaching change too. Emily Daniel's will be a loss for Trinity, she started all but one game for Trinity the last three years. Trinity last year switched a bunch of girls in and out of the lineup, but the starting 5 will all have had plenty of meaningful productive minutes.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on October 24, 2021, 09:47:10 PM
That's a tough break for Trinity and the schools in the region not named UT-Dallas.  The Comets were already one of the best programs in the region and getting a defensive stopper like Jordan (who I don't fault for taking advantage of the opportunity to continue her studies while playing at a top program) will only make them that much better.   Thanks for the update and +k.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 01, 2021, 09:33:27 AM
Not really a surprise but there are no SCAC women on the D3hoops.com pre-season All-America squad (https://d3hoops.com/awards/all-americans/women/preseason-2022).   Here's hoping that someone steps up and is named to the team when the end of the season rolls around.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 05, 2021, 08:30:51 AM
Trinity picked to win the SCAC (https://www.scacsports.com/sports/wbkb/2021-22/releases/PreseasonPoll) (with 8 of 9 first place votes), Colorado College a consensus 2nd, Austin College a consensus 3rd. 

Trinity (RV) gets an early chance to see what it will take to be competitive on the national scene as they open tomorrow night against #2 ETBU at the UMHB tournament.  The schedule is pretty challenging early with eight straight away games.  In addition to ETBU and UMHB (RV) this weekend, they go to #14 HSU next weekend, have a weekend in Oregon, then open SCAC play at Austin after nearly a month off.   They finally get to play five straight at home starting December 28, but it doesn't look like they're hosting a tournament this year. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 06, 2021, 09:20:20 PM
Trinity took #2 ETBU to OT before falling 76-70.   Was not able to watch the game, unfortunately, but that's a promising start to the new season.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on November 06, 2021, 10:27:34 PM
 Watched some of the 2nd half; Trinity had the ball in the last 30 secs w the score tied and 2 more secs on the game clock than the shot clock. Maggie Shipley got the ball at the top of the key, drove in the lane and was called for an offensive foul w 12 secs on game clock. She had an open jumper before that drive but running more time off the clock was in order.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on November 06, 2021, 11:11:51 PM
Trinity had a 10 point lead early in the 2nd qtr. Got called for at least 7 charges on the offensive side of things. Julia Akerman the only 5th yr Senior is out with hand injury that required surgery. Very competitive and balanced scoring for Trinity overall. Believe we have at least 4 girls maybe 5 in double figures.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 08, 2021, 08:10:33 AM
Nice comeback after Saturday's tough loss as Trinity eased past homestanding UMHB 74-61 Sunday night.   Maggie Shipley had her best game since transferring in last year with 16 points, 10 rebounds, and 5 assists (all Trinity career highs), Hailey Coleman, solid as always, added 16 and 8 before fouling out late, and Trinity got double figures off the bench from three players, Maggie Robbins (14, career high for the second straight game), Carly Leong (13, Trinity career high), and Kelly Simmons (12).   The win came despite the Tigers struggling from beyond the arc (4-21, 19%).

Up next is the long bus ride to Abilene for games at Hardin-Simmons (2-0) and McMurry (0-2).  The Cowgirls, ranked 14th in the initial D3hoops rankings, have road wins over TLU and Schreiner to open the season.  McMurry is 0-2 with narrow road losses to the same two teams. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jester1390 on November 08, 2021, 10:33:39 AM
Think you will be seeing more of the low percentages during course of season for teams with the line being moved back
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 09, 2021, 09:19:38 AM
Quote from: Jester1390 on November 08, 2021, 10:33:39 AM
Think you will be seeing more of the low percentages during course of season for teams with the line being moved back

No doubt - though I would hope that Trinity does better as the season goes on.

Here's a story on the UMHB game (https://truetothecru.com/2021/11/07/umhb-womens-basketball-loses-10-point-lead-in-74-61-loss-to-trinity/) from the good folks at Tru to the Cru (https://truetothecru.com/).
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on November 11, 2021, 01:43:32 PM
Should be a good one in Sherman tonight as UT-Dallas comes to town. Polly and the Comets have always been a pretty big thorn in Austin College's side, historically. Of course, they've been a thorn in the sides of a lot of teams, but they've always been one of the toughest opponents for the 'Roos. It's a nice friendly rivalry, with Polly and her assistant both being AC alums.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on November 12, 2021, 07:49:55 AM
Very, very rough shooting night for the 'Roos, who got a lot of good, clean looks from their shooters but they just couldn't connect. Can't imagine they'll have too many games shooting that poorly moving forward.

UTD is also very, VERY good. I don't think they're just the No. 15 team in the country; they looked like a legit top 10 team to me. They've got size, they're physical, they've got some shooters, the get after it on the glass, and they're SUPER deep. For reference, Jordan Rudd came off the bench for them. We'll see if she works her way into the starting lineup, but just to give you a sense of how deep they are. They've got several D2 and JUCO transfers, and right now if I were a betting man, I'd pick them to win the ASC this season. They're REALLY good.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 13, 2021, 09:32:27 AM
Trinity drops another heartbreaker to a ranked ASC opponent, 65-63 at #14 HSU.  The Cowgirls hit a three that provided the final margin with six seconds remaining and Trinity's three at the buzzer was no good.  Ashlyn Milton had 16 points to lead the Tigers; Hailey Coleman added 18 boards.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 14, 2021, 11:14:26 AM
For the second straight week, the back half of an away weekend proves more fruitful for Trinity as they dominated McMurry 102-50.  Maggie Shipley continued her fine early-season form with 19 points on 9/14 shooting in just 23 minutes - another Trinity career high and one of five Tigers in double figures.

Next up for the Traveling Tigers: a weekend in Pacific Grove, Oregon for games against Linfield and home standing Pacific.  They won't play again for nearly a month when they visit Sherman and Shreveport for the opening weekend of SCAC play.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on November 14, 2021, 12:16:28 PM
Was exciting to get to see my daughter score her first 8 collegiate points in that game yesterday!
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: gordonmann on November 14, 2021, 02:19:39 PM
Congrats to your daughter! Hopefully the first eight of many.

I've watched Trinity a couple times so far and been impressed, even in the losses to ETBU and HSU. I love Coleman's game and Milton and Shipley are good, too. With Austin maybe rebuilding a little bit and Colorado College graduating their top player, who will challenge them for the conference?
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 14, 2021, 11:14:57 PM
Wow, I composed a long reply and was told I didn't have permission.

First, congrats to TroyP and his daughter!

As far as the SCAC, it's likely the same three, Trinity, CC, Austin in that order (at least at present).   CC may have lost Gertz but the players they bring back are more than solid (including the conference newcomer of the year who almost shot them back into the championship singlehandedly).   As they figure out what they have in that huge freshman class I expect them to be the usual pest threat they normally are.  I expect Austin to start figuring things out, too.   TLU is figuring things out with a new coach after Mel Dixon retired. 

Key for Trinity (other than finding a three point stroke) is getting more consistency out of the players you mention.  Coleman is solid, Milton and Shipley have run hot and cold during their careers.   Watching them they definitely are ballplayers but consistent production have been elusive (to be fair this is Shipley's first regular season at Trinity).   I also appreciate what Kelly Simmons can bring to the court.   But you know Trinity likes to press a *lot* so they'll put a lot of players on the court who can do that.   Losing Jordan Rudd to UT-D is a big loss there.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 15, 2021, 10:00:55 PM
Oh, and then there's the "'other" Maggie, Maggie Robbins, this week's SCAC POTW.  https://trinitytigers.com/sports/wbkb/2021-22/releases/20211115vib1ag
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on November 15, 2021, 11:04:07 PM
Thanks guys! While Trinity doesn't have a team full of familiar names and they are dealing with a bunch of injuries, I think they have a chance to do some special things this year. Maggie R (SCAC player of the week) is a very suitable replacement of Jordan Rudd, Maggie S started out the ETBU game a little slow, but since the UMHB game, she has played lights out, she can flat out get to the rim. Ashlyn Milton is quietly putting up double figures, Ava L has started to find her stroke from 3 point range, Carley L has scored double digits in 3 of the 4 games off the bench. The post players Hailey C and Kelly S have been solid down low even knocking down some outside shots in big spots. Bailey T (Freshman) has been seeing time off the bench band has a really really nice jump shot. My daughter and a couple others saw playing time in the win over McMurry and all contributed with the entire squad that was dressed for the game scored.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on November 18, 2021, 01:56:35 PM
Tough start to the season for Austin College, as they've really struggled to shoot the ball so far, which is surprising since they've got some of their better shooters just ice cold through three games (for example, Sarah Gwin shot 42.3% from three last season; she's 0-15 to start the year). It doesn't help that they've played some solid teams, specifically UTD and Rhodes, and have two more big ones (Whitman, ETBU) coming up. If they can't get their shooting sorted out, they're quite possibly looking at a 1-4 start, and have had a couple key injuries that haven't helped matters.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 20, 2021, 11:27:14 PM
Interesting weekend in Oregon for Trinity and Colorado College.  Yesterday CC took on 3-0 Pacific, the host, falling 81-62.  Trinity breezed past 0-6 Linfield, 92-68.

Today the teams swapped opponents.  CC had to go to OT before overcoming Linfield 82-70.  Trinity led by double digits around halftime but had to hold on to beat Pacific 72-69.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 18, 2021, 10:07:10 AM
Trinity finally returned to the court after nearly a month away and looked like it early before recovering to defeat Austin 70-58.   Kacie West put the 'Roos on her shoulders early and scored all of her 11 points in the first period as the home team rushed out to a 22-18 lead.   In the second quarter Trinity turned up the defensive effort, holding the 'Roos to nine points.   It was Carly Leong's turn to be the difference maker, scoring ten points as the Tigers regained the lead for good late in the quarter and took a 34-31 lead into the break.  The visitors increased their lead throughout the third quarter, led by nine and seven points respectively from Maggie Shipley and Ashlyn Milton, but Sarah Putnicki (ten) and Carrie Johnson (seven) kept Austin within striking distance as it was 58-50 after three.   The 'Roos would close to within five early on a Lauren Traylor jumper but the Tigers pulled away after that.

Ashlyn Milton led all scorers with 21 including 5-of-9 from beyond the arc, and Carly Leong had her best outing as a Tiger with 20 off the bench.  Maggie Shipley added 15 and Kelly Simmons had 12 rebounds.   Austin was led by Sarah Putnicki who scored 13, also off the bench, and Natalie McCoy had six assists.

The 'Roos were determined to keep Hailey Coleman (six points on 3-of-7) from being a factor, sending two or three players at her whenever she received the ball down low. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on December 19, 2021, 04:44:58 PM
Tough start to the year for the 'Roos, but they played as well as they have all season in that game against Trinity. It was definitely closer than the final margin; Trinity just had too much firepower for AC to keep things going but they're clearly getting better with the season going on.

And watching them on the stream against Dallas right now, they just look like a completely different team than they did against Howard Payne last weekend. Whatever they did in practice following that OT loss, it worked based on how much better they played against TU and now again today (so far, at least).
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Riley Zayas on December 21, 2021, 09:58:57 AM
Thoughts + Analysis on last night's 88-71 non-conference win for UMHB women's basketball over Schreiner:

-Both teams struggled to find their rhythm early in the first quarter, but all of a sudden, things began to click on the offensive end. A combined 21 points were scored in the final 6:40 of the first quarter.

-The second quarter was where UMHB took charge, as Kaitlyn Kollmorgen opened the quarter with three consecutive made shots. Kollmorgen is a sophomore who had four years of eligibility entering this year (Covid year last year) and is establishing herself as one of the ASC's better post players. 8.0 PPG, 8.4 RPG for the Houston native. There was a difference in Schreiner's ability to drive to the lane when she was on the floor, as compared to when she wasn't.

-Schreiner's ball movement to get the ball into the paint was extremely good throughout the game. 32 points in the paint for the Mountaineers. Individually, Aazayleah Pirtle was outstanding. She handled the ball when and made the most of her opportunities. She was 5-of-9 from the field, but also shot 12 free throws, nine of which she made, for a total of 19 points.

-Speaking of free throws...wow. 74 total free throws were shot, and in my opinion, that is way too high of a number. But either way, 27 of UMHB's points came at the line, as compared to 24 of Schreiner's.

-Next up for the Crusaders is an ASC duel with Concordia on Jan. 3 at 5:30 p.m. in Belton. SU hosts St. Thomas (TX) on Dec. 31 at 4:00 p.m. in Kerrville.

For more on the game, read our full game story: https://truetothecru.com/2021/12/21/umhb-womens-basketball-extends-win-streak-to-seven-in-88-71-win-over-schreiner/

Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 29, 2021, 07:01:37 AM
Trinity's long-awaited (by me, at least - LOL) home opener yesterday against Worchester St. was postponed (https://trinitytigers.com/sports/wbkb/2021-22/releases/20211228nax3zi) due to COVID-19 protocols.  The school website says "[p]otential make-up scheduling is underway" and both schools' respective websites now show the game scheduled for this afternoon at 3PM CST.   It will be interesting to see who is on the floor for the Tigers.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 29, 2021, 07:48:17 PM
Trinity (7-2) gets by Worchester State (5-6) 76-69 despite missing their top three scorers (Ashlyn Milton, Maggie Shipley, Carly Leong), presumably due to COVID-19 protocols.  Oddly, though, Trinity seemed to miss their rebounding (12.6 rpg) more than their scoring (39.6 ppg) as the visitors outrebounded Trinity 50-35.   They also turned the ball over 23 times to 13 by the homestanding Tigers, and the Lancers also missed 10 of the 13 free throws they were awarded.

Hailey Coleman led the way with 21 points and 10 boards for Trinity, who were up 46-35 at the break.  Ava Limoncello stepped into the starting lineup and had her best game as a Tiger, more than tripling her season average with 17 points.  Worchester State got 18 points and 12 boards from Gigi Lemay (on 9-12 shooting) and 17 from Erin Gallella.

In addition to the three starters, a number of bench players who normally see playing time for Trinity did not see action today as only eight players saw court time.  With LeTourneau coming to town on Thursday it is yet to be seen if any of those out today will see action tomorrow. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 30, 2021, 06:37:49 PM
After a slow start that saw them trail by one at the half, Trinity, still without three starters and other players due to COVID protocols turned it on in the second half to ease past a solid LeTourneau (7-4, 4-2 ASC) side, 75-57.  Once again, Hailey Coleman led the way for the homestanding Tigers, scoring 23 points on 11-15 from the floor and pulling down 12 boards as Trinity won the rebounding battle 43-35.  Maggie Robbins was the only other starter in double figures with 10 (including some really sweet drives to the basket).  First-year Bailey Timmons had the best game of her career with 13 points in 21 minutes off the bench.  Keauna Whitfield had 21 and 14 to lead the Yellow Jackets playing virtually the entire game (38 minutes).  Ajanae Thomas, with 13, was the only other LeTourneau player in double figures as second-leading scorer Allaira Jones did not play.  Trinity had a 21-6 scoring advantage off the bench despite having to go down the roster due to COVID absences.

Next up for Trinity, their final non-conference game of the season Saturday against Howard Payne, whose three wins (against eight losses) include wins over St. Thomas and Austin, with losses to Schreiner and Southwestern on the other side of the ledger.  With luck the players in COVID protocols this week will return in time for SCAC play next Friday against U Dallas. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 02, 2022, 06:51:06 AM
Today's Trinity-HPU game has been "postponed, its status subject to change (https://trinitytigers.com/sports/wbkb/2021-22/releases/20220101r8t0yy)" due to continuing COVID-19 protocol on the Trinity side.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 03, 2022, 10:58:38 AM
I was going to recap where the SCAC teams stood heading into 2022 and one thing is apparent:  Trinity is far from the only team impacted by the dreaded "COVID-19 protocol" issue.  Unfortunately, it has not been a great start to the season for much of the conference, even taking the impact of the virus into account.

Trinity (8-2/2-0 SCAC, on a seven game winning streak) is far and away the leader heading into conference play.  Their best wins of the season were probably at Pacific (8-3, the only home loss for the Boxers) and UMHB (8-2, also the only home loss for the Cru).  They also had quality losses to ranked ETBU (9-2), in OT, and by 2 at ranked HSU (9-2).  After managing two wins absent at least four players last week, COVID forced yesterday's game to be postponed indefinitely.  Sophomore G Maggie Shipley and junior F Ashlyn Milton lead scoring with 14.1 points per game, and senior C/F Hailey Coleman grabs nearly nine boards per game.  Up this week (virus willing):  Dallas and TLU.

The only other team over .500, somewhat surprisingly, is Southwestern (5-4/1-0 SCAC) who after a 2-4 start have won their last three, including what may be their best win of the season, 71-69 over Colorado College in mid-December.  Unfortunately, that was the last game the Pirates have been able to play as three other games since have been either postponed (against St. Thomas and Centenary) or cancelled due to you-know-what.  Senior G Lauren Fulenwider and first-year F Jada Hollie lead the team with just over 12 points per game each; Sophomore F/C Princess Roberts is pulling down a conference-best 11+ boards per contest.  The Pirates have the make-up with St. Thomas on Tuesday, then a home/away set with Schreiner this weekend.

Another team probably better than its record might indicate is TLU (5-5, 2-0 SCAC).  The Bulldogs posted a decent result in an opening season loss vs. HSU, and three of their four other losses are to non-D3 teams.  An 84-41 blowout over Concordia (TX) at the end of November is probably their best win to date.  The Bulldogs have a balanced scoring attack with no player in double figures; first-year G Kailee Mulkey leads the team with 9.7 ppg.  Sophomore F Tanyse Moehrig averages 6 boards to lead that category.  TLU plays at Trinity and Schreiner this weekend.

After these three teams, SCAC WBB is struggling.  Dallas (2-3 SCAC) and Colorado (2-2 SCAC) are both 4-8 on the young season, but in their most recent outing, the Tigers, whose two losses in SCAC play were by a combined four points, put the hammer down on the Crusaders in a 40 point win.  Colorado has also played the toughest schedule in the SCAC with losses to then-#2 Whitman  (10-1) and UC-Santa Cruz (8-2), the only team to defeat Whitworth Whitman this season.  They also posted a home win over UMHB and lost by one at home to HSU. Leading the way for the Tigers is sophomore G Audrey Bayston with 15.7 points and 7.4 boards; junior G Anna Fanelli, still playing almost every minute (36.8 mpg), adds 10.8 ppg.  Colorado has been quite good at home early on (3-1) but not so good away (1-1 neutral, 0-6 away).  Dallas is led by first-year G Canai McPherson, with the 5'3" sparkplug averaging a conference-best 19.3 points per game, and by sophomore F Imani Hardin's 10 rebounds.

Schreiner (3-7/0-1), Centenary (3-8/1-2), St. Thomas (2-6/0-2), and Austin (2-8/1-1) bring up the rear with conference play getting underway in earnest this week.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 03, 2022, 02:25:25 PM
Good breakdown, Ron, though I'd argue Austin College's schedule has been about as tough as anyone's. They've played Whitman, UT-Dallas, ETBU, Wisconsin-Eau Claire, all of whom have been ranked in the top 15 at some point this season, as well as Trinity, who has also been ranked by the WBCA if I'm not mistaken, and Calvin (who beat Eau Claire last week) and Rhodes. Rhodes has been RV, and I have to imagine Calvin will get a couple votes, having knocked off a top 10 team last week in Eau Claire and boasting a solid record against a good schedule. Brutal schedule for the 'Roos this year.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 08, 2022, 12:14:50 PM
It looks like COVID issues, this time in the TLU program, have caused today's game at Trinity to be postponed.

Next week will be busy for the Tiger women.  Howard Payne is now scheduled to play at Trinity Monday, Dallas comes to town the next day, then on Thursday it's time for a bus ride to Houston to play St. Thomas and two days later at Colorado College.   That last game wlll be a bear as the St. Thomas game won't be over until around 10pm, putting the team back into town around 1-2AM Friday, then they'll have to get to the airport and hope that their flight doesn't have issues like so many are right now. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on January 13, 2022, 10:06:05 AM
Trinity is rolling right, plug and play, missing some key players and still get great production from the team. Super excited to see my kid drop 17 points. I think what she impressed me the most is the fact that Monday she went 0-7, went and got some extra work in and made adjustments and then went 6-9 with 5 of 7 being three pointers. She didn't let a bad game affect her in the next. Keep rolling tonight Tigers!
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 13, 2022, 11:42:40 AM
Quote from: TroyP on January 13, 2022, 10:06:05 AM
Trinity is rolling right, plug and play, missing some key players and still get great production from the team. Super excited to see my kid drop 17 points. I think what she impressed me the most is the fact that Monday she went 0-7, went and got some extra work in and made adjustments and then went 6-9 with 5 of 7 being three pointers. She didn't let a bad game affect her in the next. Keep rolling tonight Tigers!

What's nice is seeing the players who don't get a lot of PT  normally (like #33, nice game last night!) stepping up and getting it done.  Eight out against UD, I hope we see some back tonight or Saturday in that Colorado thin air.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 16, 2022, 08:29:00 AM
Trinity ended their COVID makeup week 4-0 but Colorado, lacking two starters, definitely made them work for it, leading most of the way before a spirited comeback left them on the short end of a 70-66 maroon Tiger victory. 

After escaping the first quarter with a one-point lead despite a dreadful 1-11 performance from beyond the arc, Trinity shot even worse in the second quarter with a 4-22, 0-7 from three effort that made Colorado Springs bricklayers jealous as the stress of playing three games in four days in three different cities in two states made itself known.  Benefiting from a 13-2 advantage at the line (you don't get many foul calls throwing up three after three) the home Tigers took a nine point lead into the locker room. 

Coming out of the locker room, Trinity worked the ball inside more, but turnovers and a continuing 7-0 advantage at the line kept Colorado on top for the entire third quarter and into the fourth when Healy Bledsoe's only basket on the day gave CC their largest lead of the game at 12 with a layup a minute into the final period.  From there Trinity turned up the defensive pressure, Colorado would lose the ball on five of the next eight possessions.  Two threes from Ashlyn Milton and several layups from Hailey Coleman made it a three point game at the 5:16 mark.  Trinity (9 steals in the quarter) would keep making the CC offense's life difficult, but could not take full advantage until Maggie Shipley's layup for the last of her game-high 22 resulted in a 64-62 Trinity lead with 2:25 to play.  Laura Strenk's three brought the home Tigers even at 66 with under a minute remaining, and when Rosie Braley rebounded a miss with 11 seconds left it looked as if the home team might pull off the upset.  It was not to be, as Ashlyn Milton's fifth steal of the game with 4 seconds left and a timeout with 2.5 on the clock would set up the game winning play.  Inbounding from midcourt, Maggie Shipley would find a wide-open Hailey Coleman (12 points) driving to the basket, and her layup with half a second left put Trinity up by two (see the 1:58 mark of the CC video (https://cctigers.com/watch/?Archive=801&type=Archive)).  Colorado called timeout immediately but had none remaining, resulting in a technical foul.  Milton (19 points) hit the resulting free throws for the final margin of victory.

Audrey Bayston had 17 to lead Colorado College, Rosie Braly and Tedy Reed both had 15 as Colorado dominated the boards 46-34.  Laura Strenk had 13 points, but playing 39 minutes turned the ball over 13 times.  Shipley, Milton, and Coleman were the only Trinity players in double figures. 

The two teams will meet again a week from today in San Antonio. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on January 16, 2022, 11:18:27 AM
What a finish to the game, I bet they were and are exhausted after that 4 game stretch and ending it in the high altitude of Colorado Springs! Good to see them fight from behind as a team. No quit in them.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 20, 2022, 05:19:56 PM
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Hoopsville is live on the air tonight starting at 7:00 PM ET. There might be a guest on the show this conference would be interested in. :)

We will have the following guests:

Plus the latest from the NCAA Convention and much more.

It is a jam packed show! Tune in starting at 7:00 PM ET here: www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2021-22/jan20 - the show will be available on demand and the audio podcast will be available shortly after the show as well.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 24, 2022, 10:14:13 AM
Two wins in as many games keeps Trinity at the top of the conference standings, though they have some unexpected company as we start to head down the final stretch before next month's championships.

On Friday the Tigers entertained St. Thomas and the result was much like it was last week in a 79-51 win.  The Celts kept it close for the first nearly seven minutes with some decent three-point shooting, but Trinity started taking the ball inside for which the Celts had no answer to lead by eight after one.  The Tigers would not score for over five minutes to start the second, but St. Thomas couldn't take advantage, only closing to within four before Ashlyn Milton (20 points to lead all scorers) would finally break the drought with a three with 4:41 remaining.  A 10-2 run from there would increase the lead to 15 at the half and the Celts would never threaten again.  Maggie Shipley added 16 points and Kelly Simmons 12 boards for the Tigers.  St. Thomas got 10 points each from Olivia Anga and Alexya Castillo. 

Colorado College was a different story.  One difference:  Cameron Hill, who had left the St. Thomas game at halftime for reasons unknown, was not on the floor and it would be long-time assistant Joe Shotland leading the team (for the first time in his career, I think).  The heated rivals would battle in the first half before Trinity would pull away for a 72-57 win.  It was all black-and-gold early on as CC would have little difficulty with Trinity's press and ease out to a 16-7 lead at the 2:55 mark.  Trinity would close to six at the end of the period after a Kelly Simmons steal led to a Maggie Shipley layup late.  The home side would go on a 21-12 run culminating in a Hailey Coleman layup with 2:25 remaining for their largest lead of the game so far; Colorado would pull the lead back before Shipley would make another layup with 3 seconds left to send the teams into the locker room all tied up.

Just as it was in the men's game earlier, the second half would be a different story.  Colorado had survived Trinity's pressure in the first half, only turning over the ball twice, but Trinity would adjust their scheme to get in the visitor passing lanes, resulting in five Colorado turnovers in the third quarter which helped Trinity take a five point lead going into the final stanza.  The turnovers would accelerate in that stanza, as CC would have more turnovers (seven) than made shots (four) - Trinity would get plenty of easy baskets off the turnovers to pull away, 72-57.  Colorado got a career-high 16 from Laura Strenk, matched by Rosey Braley who added a game high ten boards.  Audrey Bayston, normally deadly from beyond the arc, suffered through a 1-10 performance, missing nine straight after hitting her first.  She was effective driving to the basket (5-10) on her way to 13 total points.  Maggie Shipley had 17 points, mostly in the paint, to lead all scorers, and Hailey Coleman added 17 points and 8 boards.  Next up for Trinity, their first effort of the season against Southwestern, in Georgetown on Tuesday.

The unexpected company at the top of the SCAC?  None other than TLU, who despite a 3-5 non-conference record have won five straight in conference play, including two wins over third-place Schreiner(5-3).  The Lady Bulldogs are 5-0 after squeaking past Dallas 70-68 on Friday.  The two will play in Seguin on Saturday before meeting again in San Antonio two weeks later.  Coach Patterson would have to be considered a strong CoTY candidate with this kind of performance despite the team's COVID struggles earlier this season.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 29, 2022, 07:52:34 AM
Big game in Seguin this evening as the undefeated conference leaders, with a combined 15 SCAC wins, face off at 6PM CST.  TLU will put their seven-game winning streak on the line against Trinity, winners of 15 in a row who have not lost since November 12th.  The game will be broadcast here (https://portal.stretchinternet.com/tlu/portal.htm?eventId=676481&streamType=video).

Meanwhile, Austin College has quietly turned their season around (and/or found the lesser SCAC competition more to their liking than a very difficult non-conference slate).  After an 83-76 win last night over Schreiner, the 'Roos now lurk two games behind the leaders at 5-2.  Senior/graduate guards Natalie McCoy and Kacie West, plus first-year forward Sarah Putnicki take turns leading the team in scoring, averaging between 12 and 14 ppg in conference play.  Austin faces Colorado on the road Sunday before facing TLU for the first time at home Tuesday and then travel to South Texas next weekend for rematches with Trinity and Schreiner. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Riley Zayas on January 29, 2022, 10:15:28 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on January 29, 2022, 07:52:34 AM
Big game in Seguin this evening as the undefeated conference leaders, with a combined 15 SCAC wins, face off at 6PM CST.  TLU will put their seven-game winning streak on the line against Trinity, winners of 15 in a row who have not lost since November 12th.  The game will be broadcast here (https://portal.stretchinternet.com/tlu/portal.htm?eventId=676481&streamType=video).

Meanwhile, Austin College has quietly turned their season around (and/or found the lesser SCAC competition more to their liking than a very difficult non-conference slate).  After an 83-76 win last night over Schreiner, the 'Roos now lurk two games behind the leaders at 5-2.  Senior/graduate guards Natalie McCoy and Kacie West, plus first-year forward Sarah Putnicki take turns leading the team in scoring, averaging between 12 and 14 ppg in conference play.  Austin faces Colorado on the road Sunday before facing TLU for the first time at home Tuesday and then travel to South Texas next weekend for rematches with Trinity and Schreiner.

Very interested to see how the Trinity-TLU matchup plays out. I really like what I've seen from Trinity's offense as of late, especially the duo of Maggie Shipley and Hailey Coleman. Trinity looks very much like an NCAA tournament team, and while TLU has home court advantage, they are also coming off a win last night against Southwestern.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on January 29, 2022, 12:00:19 PM
 Just wondering how Maggie Shipley ended up at Trinity after leaving Amherst; she played her school ball in northern VA and I saw her in AAU as a rising junior. Amherst could certainly use her offensive talents this season.
I understood the move of Kelly Simmons(another Delmarva AAU player) because there was a family relocation to Texas.
Best wishes to Maggie and Kelly and Trinity this season.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 29, 2022, 04:33:54 PM
Quote from: ronk on January 29, 2022, 12:00:19 PM
Just wondering how Maggie Shipley ended up at Trinity after leaving Amherst; she played her school ball in northern VA and I saw her in AAU as a rising junior. Amherst could certainly use her offensive talents this season.
I understood the move of Kelly Simmons(another Delmarva AAU player) because there was a family relocation to Texas.
Best wishes to Maggie and Kelly and Trinity this season.

I did ask about this at some point.  The coach said he saw her in the transfer portal and new Amherst was really good, so he contacted her and it worked out.  There was no prior contact or knowledge of or by either party.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on January 29, 2022, 07:43:26 PM
 i guess I didn't look at the transfer portal in that particular time frame or I would have relayed that to our coaching staff.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 30, 2022, 07:33:38 AM
In a game that was possibly closer than the final score might indicate, Trinity defeated TLU 69-56 in a hard-fought battle to remain undefeated and stay atop the SCAC last night.   The victory increases Trinity's win streak to 15, their longest since the 2012-13 season (17 games). 

Behind hot early three-point shooting from Ashlyn Milton (a game-high 21, 5-11 from beyond the arc), the Tigers took a quick 11-3 lead as their full-court press took a toll on the Bulldogs, who managed to overcome those early struggles and, thanks to six missed layups in seven possessions by Trinity would close to within one, 16-15, by the end of the quarter.  That would be a theme for the visitors who would have some difficulty establishing an inside game despite their significant height advantage.  TLU would take their only lead of the game at 17-16 when Jayla Santa Maria (13 points) scored on the first possession of the second quarter, but the Trinity press would take its toll as the quarter progressed and the Tigers would take a 38-25 lead into the locker room.  The deficit would expand to 21 early in the second half after Hailey Coleman (14 points, 6 rebounds and 6 assists) completed an and-one, but consecutive threes from Kailey Mulkey (a team-high 16 points) would spur a comeback by the home team, as would the physical game becoming much more tightly called late in the period.  After a foul and tech on Trinity's Maggie Robbins (13 points) at the 1:34 mark resulted in four FTs and possession, Kailey Lacey's jumper closed the gap to single digits at 51-43.  Heading into the fourth, the tight calls would keep coming as TLU closed to within two, 54-52, after Shipley was whistled for the fourth foul called on the Tigers in 42 seconds (and fifth in 1:05) with just over seven minutes remaining.  Kelly Simmons' (10 points) three on the next possession would steady the ship, and Trinity's pressure would lead to easy points off turnovers and a 15-4 run to close out the game.

Trinity now comes home for five straight games including a mid-week rematch with TLU on Feb 9th, while the Bulldogs hit the road for five straight starting Tuesday at Austin College. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 03, 2022, 11:31:21 AM
The Hoopsville Marathon is here!

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The show is hitting the air at 12:00 PM ET and going for at least NINE hours for the 8th Annual Hoopsville Marathon Show.

Show link: www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2021-22/marathon

This year's show featured coaches, administrators, student-athletes, and many others around Division III who gave us a sense of the season to date and what is to come. There is only a month or so left in the regular season, so there was plenty to talk about.

The marathon is also a chance to celebrate the final month of the Division III basketball regular season.

Guests include (in order of appearance, subject to change):
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 04, 2022, 09:07:49 AM
Thanks for interviewing Coach Hill yesterday, Dave.  Good stuff and questions but I do wonder how he came to be a SF Giants fan.   :D

Trinity's game with Austin College, originally scheduled for today, has been postponed until Sunday afternoon due to the ice and snow that the area and especially the central and northern parts of the state saw yesterday. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on February 05, 2022, 11:57:22 PM
Love watching these girls play, the third quarter they just have an extra gear! My kid made the most of her time, really enjoy watching her out there with some absolutely great teammates!
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 07, 2022, 09:14:42 AM
Trinity's winning streak is at a program record-tying 17 after easy wins at home over Centenary 84-48 on Saturday, and one of their more complete games of the SCAC season over Austin yesterday, 75-54.  They will face third-place Schreiner, who themselves defeated Austin 92-68 on Saturday, for a chance to set the all-time program record Tuesday.  That will be the midpoint of a five game stretch at home, with four games in six days after a rematch with TLU the following night, with the final home stand against Southwestern on Saturday.

Against the Ladies, Trinity couldn't sustain early momentum and trailed by one with 3:19 left in the half before taking a two-point lead into the break.  Three point shooting woes once again contributed to a tight game as the Tigers went 4-18 in the first half.  The third quarter was a totally different story as Trinity would score nearly as many points in the quarter (32) as the entire first half (34).  Hailey Coleman would lead the charge with 10 points and seven boards (four offensive) in the quarter, and Maggie Shipley would rebound from a scoreless first half with 11, both players individually outscoring the Ladies for the quarter.  The Tiger reserves took over the fourth quarter and built on the lead with Mollie Priddy matching Shipley with 11 including 3-of-5 from beyond the arc.  On the day, Coleman's 17 would lead Trinity, with Ashlyn Milton's 14 (4-6 from three) in support.  Destini Powell would have 17 off the bench to lead the way for the Ladies, who would also get 11 rebounds each from Alana Jones and Jazzmyn Jones in winning the rebound battle 56-49.

Trinity picked up where they left off against Austin, sprinting out to a 28-8 first quarter lead as the 'Roo ladies were on the second leg of a back-to-back overnight travel weekend and were initially unable to respond to the Tiger pressure.  As it was in the determining quarter the previous day, once again it was the Coleman and Shipley show as Hailey would hit 5-of-6 in the quarter with Maggie adding six points, as did Carly Leong off the bench.   'Roo adjustments in the second quarter combined with continued Trinity three-point woes (1-9 for the half) kept the deficit from getting much worse, but the difference would be 41-18 at the half.  The lead would balloon to 36 at the midpoint of the third quarter.  Austin would outscore Trinity by 13 the rest of the way, primarily against the Tiger bench, but it was too little, too late.  Austin would actually win the turnover battle, forcing 26 Trinity turnovers while suffering only 21 themselves, but could only shoot 28% to Trinity's 49% in the loss.  Shipley's 13 would lead five Tigers in double figures, with Coleman adding 12 boards to her 12 points.  Natalie McCoy was the only 'Roo in double figures with 10 points.  Both teams shot poorly from distance (Trinity, 19%, Austin, 13.6%). 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on February 08, 2022, 08:47:29 PM
What an awesome game to watch! That was some incredible unselfish basketball. I still can't wrap my head around 122 points.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on February 09, 2022, 09:00:59 AM
The stat that stands out to me is the 36 assist. Great team basketball!
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 09, 2022, 09:02:33 AM
Not going to lose too many games you shoot 60% from three, either.  Hopefully there's no hangover tonight against a TLU team that put up a pretty stiff challenge in Seguin last month.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 10, 2022, 09:29:09 AM
Trinity wasn't as sharp Wednesday night as the night before, with it being their fourth game in five days combined with TLU playing their usual physical game, but after a slow first start gradually pulled away from the SCAC's second-place team in a 72-52 win, their 19th straight victory.  The game was tightly called, with 43 fouls (and two technicals) almost evenly divided between the two schools.  The win locks up the top seed in the upcoming SCAC tournament for the Tigers.

As was the case on Tuesday, Trinity would sprint out to an early lead, this time 9-0 less than 90 seconds into the game, but after Maggie Shipley was forced to the bench after two fouls in quick succession with just over four minutes gone TLU would claw their way back into the game.  The threes that were so plentiful 24 hours earlier for Trinity were not falling, and after one TLU was within striking distance, trailing 14-9.  The Bulldogs would close to within three, 21-18, after Morgan Rodriguez' layup midway through the quarter, but would only hit two more shots the rest of the way as Trinity eased out to a 34-25 lead at the half.  The third quarter would be more of the same, as Ashlyn Milton hit her first two three attempts, Ava Limoncello tossed in her third of the night, and the Bulldogs couldn't find an answer.  After a scoreless first half, Maggie Shipley would find success driving to the basket, and her third layup (and tenth point) of the quarter would give Trinity its largest lead so far, 55-38, with just over a minute remaining in the third.  TLU would make a few brief runs in the fourth but could never get the margin into single digits the rest of the way.

Hailey Coleman and Maggie Robbins (before fouling out late) had 14 each to lead Trinity, with Maggie Shipley adding 12.  TLU got 9 each from Tanyse Moehrig (who was 4 for 4) and Jayla Santa Maria.  Next up for Trinity, their last home game of the season against Southwestern on Saturday before closing out the season at Dallas and a revenge-minded Schreiner; TLU goes to Dallas on Friday before closing out the regular season at home with games against St. Thomas, Austin, and Centenary. 

Speaking of Coleman - Hailey was 10 for 10 Tuesday night against Schreiner, on her way to 21 points (plus 8R/4B/4A/2Stl).  According to the Trinity announcing crew that is the best shooting performance by a D3 woman this season.  Trinity's game story (https://trinitytigers.com/sports/wbkb/2021-22/releases/20220208y4701p) says it's believed to be the most made FGs without a miss in school history.  Ashlyn Milton came close to matching that performance from beyond the arc where she was 7 of 8 as part of a career-high 33 point performance. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on February 10, 2022, 04:46:31 PM
I would be curious to what the single game record for assist at Trinity is?

Also, curious to how the post season tourney works for D3?

Is it a 64 team tourney, is it conference tournament winners the only ones with automatic berths? Do they match local teams in the first round or do teams get seeded like Div 1 does for March Madness?
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 10, 2022, 06:09:21 PM
Quote from: TroyP on February 10, 2022, 04:46:31 PM
I would be curious to what the single game record for assist at Trinity is?

Also, curious to how the post season tourney works for D3?

Is it a 64 team tourney, is it conference tournament winners the only ones with automatic berths? Do they match local teams in the first round or do teams get seeded like Div 1 does for March Madness?


Let us know if you have more questions after this:

https://www.d3hoops.com/interactive/faq/ncaatournament
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 10, 2022, 06:30:56 PM
Quote from: TroyP on February 10, 2022, 04:46:31 PM
I would be curious to what the single game record for assist at Trinity is?

Also, curious to how the post season tourney works for D3?

Is it a 64 team tourney, is it conference tournament winners the only ones with automatic berths? Do they match local teams in the first round or do teams get seeded like Div 1 does for March Madness?

The TU women's BB archives (https://trinitytigers.com/sports/wbkb/Archives/index) include single-game records, though it appears they haven't been updated since the pandemic.  The school record is 14 by Martha Michel vs. Texas Woman's (01/18/86). 

Well, hell, Ryan beat me to the punch, so look there first for an excellent summary.  A few additions to what's there as someone who's been paying attention to WBB since Trinity came out of the blue to win their one championship in '03:

You want to win the conference tournament, there is a lot of competition for those Pool Cs (including the ASC runners-up) and Trinity doesn't have a lot of games against ranked opponents (three against the ASC teams, 1-2) or a strong strength-of-schedule this year.  Next week we'll see where those four schools are relative to each other when the first real regional rankings come out.  The way Pool C selection works is the top team from each of the ten regions not yet selected is put on the table for consideration; the best one (by complex NCAA criteria listed on the page Ryan provided) is awarded a Pool C bid, replaced by the next team from that region, and the ten team comparison is repeated until all bids are given out.   It's safe to say that if Trinity does win the tournament that no other SCAC team has a prayer of a Pool C bid this year, due to their poor records - regardless of strength of schedule or wins vs. regionally ranked opponents.   In addition, it's virtually impossible for a school not regionally ranked at the end of the season to be selected for the playoffs.

As in all NCAA Division III tournaments (and with all due respect to what's on the page above) the primary focus is on cost reduction.  The first couple of rounds are held at regional hosts so Texas, with usually at least three teams selected, normally gets one of those with the highest-ranked team (by NCAA criteria, not any rankings) getting to host.  See, the NCAA doesn't have to fly a team unless they are more than 500 miles away, so with at least two such bus trips guaranteed (and the host not travelling) Texas gets to host.  If no Pool C bids go to the ASC or SCAC, the winners might get put on planes unless there's a third team - like Hendrix - within 500 miles of a potential Texas host (UT-Dallas has gotten to host in the past when lower seeded in this exact scenario).   Teams are seeded - though the NCAA won't tell you what they are, it's usually pretty obvious from the bracket.  Top rated seeds are not guaranteed the right to host any round, however, if the NCAA can save plane flights by allowing a lower seed to host it does so gleefully.  Teams in Texas or on the West Coast, where everyone else would have to fly in for subsequent rounds, are usually the ones impacted when this happens.

The second round winners will gather the next week at one of four sectional sites - same caveats about who gets to host, it's combination of most money saved on flights and then the best team (with an adequate facility that applies to host) - followed by the Final Four which this year is in Pittsburgh. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on February 10, 2022, 06:31:36 PM
So Conference Champions get the automatic bid, not the conference tournament champions?
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 10, 2022, 06:33:12 PM
Quote from: TroyP on February 10, 2022, 06:31:36 PM
So Conference Champions get the automatic bid, not the conference tournament champions?

Each conference decides who gets their bid.  Like most conferences the SCAC awards the bid to the winner of the season-ending tournament.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on February 10, 2022, 06:44:11 PM
Thanks guys, I appreciate all that information. Hopefully the girls continue to play at a high level Feb 25-27. The ASC tournament should be a very competitive tournament. If UMHB wins tourney, I think other ASC teams may have a hard time getting in as well. They all beat each other up. Should be a fun competitive next couple of weeks.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 10, 2022, 07:05:40 PM
Just a 'usually' slight correction to Ron's post - a couple of years ago the mileage allowance for busing rather than flying was raised from 500 to 600 miles.  Thar distinction doesn't come into play all that often, but it does sometimes.

And, yes, for the NCAA the 'bottom line' IS generally the 'bottom line' - over the years there have been numerous injustices in matchups and hosting if athletic criteria were the only ones in play.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 10, 2022, 07:22:59 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on February 10, 2022, 07:05:40 PM
Just a 'usually' slight correction to Ron's post - a couple of years ago the mileage allowance for busing rather than flying was raised from 500 to 600 miles.  Thar distinction doesn't come into play all that often, but it does sometimes.

And, yes, for the NCAA the 'bottom line' IS generally the 'bottom line' - over the years there have been numerous injustices in matchups and hosting if athletic criteria were the only ones in play.

This is the first year of the 600 mile radius.  It's been 500 up until now.  It won't likely have any impact for the Texas schools, though.  600 still isn't far enough.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on February 11, 2022, 12:52:56 AM
So I looked up the team stats and in the game against Schreiner the girls beat more records than mentioned.

Most points in a game 122 vs 110 in 2003
Most FG made in a game 50 vs 48 in 2003
Best FG % 66.7 vs 65.5 in 2001
Most Assist 36 vs 33 in 2003
Most 3-PT FG made 14 vs 10 (happened 7 different times)
Currently have a 159 made 3 pointers (6 teams in past have more, 206 being the most)

Impressive group of ladies on this team!





Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 24, 2022, 09:10:56 AM
Little surprised that UHMB stayed at the top of the regional rankings (https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-women/d3/regional-rankings-0) despite the loss to ETBU; I'm sure the numbers warrant that but at this point, barring something like a first-round UMHB loss in the ASC tourney and ETBU (edit: or HSU) winning out pretty much means that the SCAC winner (and likely the ASC runner-up) should plan on a trip to Belton next weekend.  Buried in fourth, Trinity had better win their tournament, too, otherwise they're behind the ASC runner-up and possibly another team like HSU (if they make a run to the ASC finals they probably get at one more win vs. RRO) and/or Redlands.  Another basket against HSU and/or ETBU in November would possibly have jumped them to at least second in the rankings, but that's not the situation Trinity faces today. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 25, 2022, 09:44:16 AM
SCAC championships begin today at Austin College - broadcast and stat links are here (https://scacsports.prestosports.com/tournament/winter/basketball/22championships/index). 

Today:
5pm CST:  #4 Schreiner (13-12, 10-6 SCAC) vs #5 Austin (9-15, 8-8 SCAC)
7pm CST:  #3 Colorado College (14-11, 11-5 SCAC) vs #6 Southwestern (10-14, 6-10 SCAC)

Tomorrow:
5pm CST:  #1 Trinity (23-2, 16-0 SCAC) vs #4/#5 winner
7pm CST:  #2 TLU (16-8, 13-3 SCAC) vs #3/#6 winner

Sunday:
2pm CST:  Saturday winners for championship

Trinity is on a 22-game winning streak, dating to a two-point loss in the third game of the season at regionally-ranked HSU.  Colorado College found their footing late in the season, winning seven straight since a heartbreaking last-second loss at home to Trinity.  TLU's only losses in their last fourteen games were at the hands of Trinity (twice) and Colorado (once). 

To get to the NCAAs, you must win this weekend, even Trinity who as pointed out above could be too deep in the final regional rankings with another loss to earn a Pool C bid. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 25, 2022, 11:30:37 PM
Surprising losses by both UMHB and ETBU tonight sets up a UTD-HSU ASC championship.  If you are a Trinity fan you want UTD to win, but that might simply end up vaulting the Comets in the rankings and result in them hosting yet another 1st/2nd round playoff.

BTW Trinity grad Jordan Rudd tied for leading scorer tonight for UTD with 13.

Austin will play Trinity tomorrow and would love to repeat what they did in the 2000 championship round.  Colorado will face TLU in the other semi.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 26, 2022, 11:22:32 PM
The two hottest teams in the SCAC will fittingly meet on Sunday for the conference championship.

Austin jumped out to early leads at 9-5 and 15-11, but from there, midway through the first quarter, Trinity would reel the 'Roos back in. taking their first lead, 16-15, on an Ashlyn Milton (game leading 25 points) three ball about a minute and a half later.  The lead would go back and forth the rest of the quarter before a Kelly Simmons layup would give Trinity the lead for good, 24-22 with just under a minute to play in the quarter.   Trinity would use the three ball to expand the lead going into the half, hitting 5-of-11 to take an 11 point lead into the locker room, 45-34.  Austin could only get the lead back to single digits for 11 seconds in the second half as Trinity pulled away in the second half.   Kacie West (a 'Roo-leading 24) hit a three with 23 seconds left to make the final margin 90-77.   Trinity had a huge bench advantage (40-4, led by Carly Leong's 13) but turned the ball over 20 times to 13 for Austin, giving the 'Roos a 24-9 edge in points off turnovers.  Maggie Shipley (14 points) was the only other Tiger in double figures; Natalie McCoy, Sarah Putnicki, and Lauren Traylor each added 15 for the 'Roos. 

The other semi featured the only semifinal upset of the day for either women or men as Colorado College's strong second half pushed them past TLU, 55-40.  The Bulldogs had taken a five point lead into the break, holding the Tigers to a 1-of-11 performance from beyond the arc, but Colorado would hit half (4 of 8) their threes in the second half while holding TLU to 2-of-11 (and 4-of-21 overall) to blow past TLU, 55-40.  CC's Laura Strenk led all scorers with 14, Talia Cloud had 13, and Rosey Braley 12; Tanyse Moehrig came off the bench to lead TLU with 10 points and a game-high 13 boards. 

The all-SCAC teams were announced.  I try not to pick at these too much, because obviously I focus on Trinity and am going to be biased, but the DPOY selected had basically 1 steal and 4 boards per game, and zero blocks.  I don't get it.  There's more to defense than steals and boards, but that's not top 20 in the conference in either category and it seems to me that you should show some statistical evidence before being named DPOY.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on February 27, 2022, 09:55:28 AM
Austin College played hard for 40 minutes, but Trinity's depth seems to be too much for many teams. Milton was in rhythm with her shot last night and was pure joy to watch it.

How Maggie Robbins did not get DPOY is beyond me, also how Maggie Shipley did not get first team is surprising to me as well.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 27, 2022, 05:55:42 PM
The DPOY-who-wasn't played a huge role on both sides of the ball today as Trinity finally got past a very determined Colorado College squad in a defensive struggle, 50-45.

At first it appeared to be a repeat of the *other* Trinity game today, as the CC Tigers sprinted out to an early lead thanks to the three-point shooting of Talia Cloud (a game high 20).  She singlehandedly turned an early 2-5 deficit into a 10-5 lead; Rosie Braley and Audrey Bayston would join in the fun while Trinity struggled to find their long-range touch.  Colorado would lead 19-11 after one period.  Midway through the second, that lead would balloon to 26-14 after Healy Bledsoe hit one of two free throws, but Trinity would ramp up the defensive pressure and close to within six on Emily Nelson's layup with two minutes remaining.  The teams would trade misses and turnovers the rest of the half.

With outside shots not falling, Trinity started driving to the basket, finding just enough room in the forest of tall Colorado College bodies to draw fouls on the drives.  This is where Maggie Robbins started to impose her will on the game, converting both pairs of free throws she was awarded as well as a layup for six of her team high 14.  Maggie Shipley joined in the fun, also awarded a pair of freebies on drives, and Trinity closed the gap to one the end of the quarter despite being outrebounded 11-4.  The threes that had fallen so easily for Colorado in the first quarter were suddenly hard to come by, and more effective Trinity pressure resulted in six turnovers by their opponents.   After three, the Colorado lead was down to a single point, 38-37.

With Robbins picking up her fourth foul early in the final stanza, Trinity would have to turn elsewhere for points.  Nobody on either team would score more than a single basket in the quarter, but Kelly Simmons would hit the only three (Trinity was 1-3, Colorado College 0-6) midway through to give Trinity a lead it never relinquished, as well as a pair of free throws late to help seal the 50-45 win and a road trip to whatever ASC team ends up hosting the first two rounds next weekend. 

Colorado College graduates nobody and should be even more of a threat next season, but once again played three of their starters 37 or more minutes - Rosie Braley all 40 - and that had to factor into the less effective second half performance.  CC won the rebound battle by a huge margin, 47-28, but suffered 25 turnovers to Trinity's 14. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 28, 2022, 08:02:47 AM
The D3hoops gang projects UMHB will host (https://d3hoops.com/playoffs/women/2022/mock-projections), and interestingly enough forecasts a repeat of the season opening tournament that originally was to be held at Trinity:  UMHB, Trinity, Rhodes, and HSU replacing ETBU (who gets sent to Whitman).  The committee could as easily send HSU to Whitman and ETBU to Belton, or for that matter Rhodes to Whitman which would save a plane trip (and let's face it, if the NCAA can save the cost of a flight they generally will).   But ... 580 miles from Rhodes to UMHB (according to Google Maps which isn't official) - if the limit is now 600 miles is a bus ride, so never mind?  Edit:  Pat says yes, it is a 600 mile limit so Rhodes can get to either UMHB (or ETBU) without a flight.   

And as pointed out in the article, men have hosting priority this year so if UMHB ends up hosting (a 50-50 proposition, seemingly, as it's two flights whether they do or not) then someone else will host the Texas pod, but it would likely be one of the ASC teams. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on February 28, 2022, 10:31:18 AM
If that's the case will probably be the toughest 1st and 2nd round matchups in the entire tournament.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 28, 2022, 10:35:18 AM

Pomona is much higher ranked for the men, so likely UMHB will host for women, especially since Rhodes can drive to round out the pod.  The only decision will be whether they fly Hardin Simmons or ETBU out to another location.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 28, 2022, 12:17:24 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 28, 2022, 10:35:18 AM

Pomona is much higher ranked for the men, so likely UMHB will host for women, especially since Rhodes can drive to round out the pod.  The only decision will be whether they fly Hardin Simmons or ETBU out to another location.

TY Ryan, always appreciate you sharing your in-depth knowledge here! 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 28, 2022, 12:50:07 PM
The committee surprises by giving UMHB men the 1st/2nd round hosting.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on February 28, 2022, 01:26:04 PM
Where can you watch the selection committee?
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Roundball999 on February 28, 2022, 01:34:07 PM
Quote from: TroyP on February 28, 2022, 01:26:04 PM
Where can you watch the selection committee?

https://www.ncaa.com/sports/basketball-women/d3
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 28, 2022, 02:26:56 PM
https://www.ncaa.com/video/basketball-women/2022-02-28/diii-womens-basketball-2022-selection-show once they remember to enable access (same thing happened on men's call earlier)
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 28, 2022, 02:39:08 PM
Off to HSU (21-4), where they flew two other teams in, Whitman (26-1) and Whittier (16-8).  Not happy about going to HSU?  Whitman got islanded, they really should be hosting.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 28, 2022, 03:07:29 PM
Whoa - both UMHB and ETBU get to hop on the bus and play at Rhodes.  Interesting.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Riley Zayas on February 28, 2022, 04:03:50 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 28, 2022, 03:07:29 PM
Whoa - both UMHB and ETBU get to hop on the bus and play at Rhodes.  Interesting.

Yeah, 588 miles for UMHB to Memphis. That's a long trip.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 28, 2022, 05:00:44 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 28, 2022, 03:07:29 PM
Whoa - both UMHB and ETBU get to hop on the bus and play at Rhodes.  Interesting.

That seems to be punishment for not winning the conference tourney.  Maybe they can share a bus?  UMHB can pick ETBU up on the way and drop them off on the way back?
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 01, 2022, 08:30:33 AM
Quote from: TroyP on February 28, 2022, 10:31:18 AM
If that's the case will probably be the toughest 1st and 2nd round matchups in the entire tournament.

Lot of good matchups out there, but if you look at the D3hoops rankings (https://d3hoops.com/top25/women/2021-22/week12) you end up with #6 (Whitman) vs NR (Whittier) and #13 (Trinity) vs #22 (host HSU).  So the voters, at least, agree this is going to be a pretty tough bracket.

The UMHB/HSU bracket ends up being RV (Rhodes, host) vs. RV (ETBU) and #21 (UMHB) vs. RV, so while they have to travel one of the two still has a good chance of making it to the second weekend.  Rhodes arguably deserves a little more respect from the voters with only a one-point loss at UMHB in the opener (thanks in large part to no fewer than 13 missed FTs) and one against a decent Emory team in December on the wrong side of the ledger.  The opener with ETBU is a rematch of the second game of the season which the Lynx won by six. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 04, 2022, 11:08:14 PM
Trinity avenges their last loss of the season with a 61-57 win over homestanding Hardin-Simmons.  They'll face Whitman (27-1) who came from behind to defeat Whittier 62-57. 

The Tigers jumped out to a early lead, 21-11 after the first quarter, thanks to Maggie Robbins (7), Maggie Shipley and Julia Ackerman (6 each).  Poor shooting and turnovers let HSU get back into the game by halftime, with Hallie Edmondson's two threes (on three attempts) helped make it a 37-all tie as the quarter drew to a close.  The teams combined for a total of two FTs in the fast-paced half.  The Tigers gradually drew away in the second half of the third quarter and led by as eight early in the fourth before HSU would make their charge; the second of two threes  from Parris Palmer would give the Cowgirls their first lead since the opening minutes of the third quarter with just over three minutes to play, 50-49.  Maggie Shipley's layup on the next possession would give Trinity the lead for good, and the Tigers would hit enough of their free throws to earn the program's first postseason victory in five years.

It was the Maggie & Maggie show for Trinity, with Robbins scoring 17 and adding six boards and three steals, and Shipley adding 15 and a team-high four assists.  Hallie Edmondson had a game-high 18 for HSU (4-7 from three) and Kiki Gonzales came off the bench to score 10 on 5-6 shooting.

Both UMHB (79-76 over Webster) and ETBU (65-53 over homestanding Rhodes) also won, so there will be at least one team from Texas in the Sweet 16.  Trinity will try to make it two tomorrow.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on March 05, 2022, 09:46:38 PM
So how does the sweet 16 work?? Does it all get seared again or do we play #1 in the land?
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 05, 2022, 10:01:49 PM

Maggie Shipley may be heading back to Amherst.  Tufts is more than 600 miles from CNU.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 05, 2022, 10:33:37 PM
Quote from: TroyP on March 05, 2022, 09:46:38 PM
So how does the sweet 16 work?? Does it all get seared again or do we play #1 in the land?

Yes, Trinity plays CNU next week, no reseeding.  The only question is do they get screwed out of hosting to save a flight as Ryan mentioned.

Great second half tonight - the 2-3 minutes out of the locker room were amazing.  Glad I was here to see it.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 05, 2022, 10:35:54 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on March 05, 2022, 10:33:37 PM
Quote from: TroyP on March 05, 2022, 09:46:38 PM
So how does the sweet 16 work?? Does it all get seared again or do we play #1 in the land?

Yes, Trinity plays CNU next week, no reseeding.  The only question is do they get screwed out of hosting to save a flight as Ryan mentioned.

Great second half tonight - the 2-3 minutes out of the locker room were amazing.  Glad I was here to see it.

I think they'd spend the flight to reward CNU under other circumstances, but the committee stuck themselves with FIVE other flights in the second weekend - there's no way the NCAA will let them have an extra.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on March 05, 2022, 10:50:48 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on March 05, 2022, 10:33:37 PM
Quote from: TroyP on March 05, 2022, 09:46:38 PM
So how does the sweet 16 work?? Does it all get seared again or do we play #1 in the land?

Glad I was here to see it.

Wish, I could have been there, but I have a son who is a Senior in HS and he plays Tennis and had to commit to watch him this Friday.

I will be where everyone they tell us to be the next Friday! Sweet 16 Baby!
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 05, 2022, 11:00:55 PM
Quote from: TroyP on March 05, 2022, 10:50:48 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on March 05, 2022, 10:33:37 PM
Quote from: TroyP on March 05, 2022, 09:46:38 PM
So how does the sweet 16 work?? Does it all get seared again or do we play #1 in the land?

Glad I was here to see it.

Wish, I could have been there, but I have a son who is a Senior in HS and he plays Tennis and had to commit to watch him this Friday.

I will be where everyone they tell us to be the next Friday! Sweet 16 Baby!

Have a great time, I'll be watching from home next week!   Refs let 'em play tonight (last night too) and that works to our advantage most of the time.  Hope the trend continues.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on March 06, 2022, 12:07:06 PM
Looks like we are headed to Amherst, MA
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on March 07, 2022, 06:14:26 PM
  Interesting for Maggie Shipley returning to Amherst this weekend although both Trinity and Amherst would have to win Friday in order to meet on Saturday.
  Also, Trinity's Kelly Simmons and CNU's Jess Foster were AAU teammates; all 3(Maggie, Kelly, and Jess) were on my prospect list so I've followed them throughout their college careers.
  I'll call this sectional a tossup.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 08, 2022, 09:32:12 AM
Briefly looking at the four remaining brackets:

At Amherst:  #13 Trinity (27-2) vs. #1 CNU (26-0); #11 Tufts (22-4) at #8 Amherst (23-3)
At UW-Whitewater:  #16 Smith (25-2) at #12 UW-W (25-4); #10 Baldwin-Wallace (23-4) vs. RV UW-Oshkosh (21-6)

Those winners meet in the semis.

At Hope:  RV Millikin (21-6) at #2 Hope (28-1); #7 NYU (24-1) vs. #9 Scranton (27-2)
At Transylvania:  RV Springfield (24-4) vs. #5 Trine (26-3); #21 UMHB (24-4) at #3 Transylvania (26-0)

Winners meet in semis.

Tough luck for the two Texas teams to be matched up against the two remaining undefeateds, with UMHB on the floor of their opponent.  The UW-W bracket is possibly the least challenging of the four, which if true would bode well for whichever team makes it out of the Amherst bracket.  Hard to say which is the most challenging, but the Transy bracket could see a matchup of two top-five teams in the final. 

Looking at the losses for the top 25-ranked teams:
- Trinity has an OT loss to RV ETBU and a two-point loss at #22 Hardin-Simmons.
- CNU hasn't lost; their closest game was a three point win at #25 Gettysburg early in the season.
- Tufts lost by 1 to #3 Transy (at home), by 9 at #8 Amherst, by 18 at RV Trinity(CT), by 14 to Amherst (at home)
- Amherst lost by 3 at RV Bates, by 9 at NR Hamilton, by 9 to Bates (at home)
- Smith lost by 7 at NR Bowdoin, by 9 at #11 Tufts
- UW-W lost by 9 at NR Carroll, by 10 at #24 UW-EC, by 3 at RV UW-O, by 14 to UW-EC (at home)
- Hope lost to #5 Trine by 8 (at home)
- NYU lost at NR Rochester by 4
- Scranton lost at #19 Ithaca by 22; at NR Stevens by 10
- Trine lost at #24 UW-EC by 6; to #2 Hope by 9 (at home), to Hope by 4 (at home)
- UMHB lost to #13 Trinity by 13 (at home); at NR Colorado College by 9; at RV ETBU by 14; to NR UT-Dallas by 13 (neutral)
- Transylvania hasn't lost; their closest games were an OT win at NR Rose-Hulman and a one-point win at #11 Tufts

The thing about losses: with many teams dealing with COVID absences it's hard to know which of these, if any, might have been impacted.  The other thing:  past performance does not guarantee future returns.  ;D
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Navy on March 11, 2022, 05:31:51 PM
If you're not watching, the TU-CNU is a good one!
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Navy on March 11, 2022, 05:43:16 PM
Observation: all the fans are wearing masks.  Haven't seen that here in Texas for months.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Roundball999 on March 11, 2022, 06:16:50 PM
Quote from: D3Navy on March 11, 2022, 05:43:16 PM
Observation: all the fans are wearing masks.  Haven't seen that here in Texas for months.

NCAA rule maybe?
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Navy on March 11, 2022, 06:47:22 PM
Quote from: Roundball999 on March 11, 2022, 06:16:50 PM
Quote from: D3Navy on March 11, 2022, 05:43:16 PM
Observation: all the fans are wearing masks.  Haven't seen that here in Texas for months.

NCAA rule maybe?

School policy.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Navy on March 11, 2022, 06:49:24 PM
TU BEATS #1!!!!!
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 11, 2022, 07:03:21 PM
Hailey.  Freaking.  Coleman.  28 points including 11-for-11 to start and 8 boards before being slowed by her 4th foul.

20 for Ashlyn Milton including 4 3's. 9 boards from the shortest Tiger, Maggie Robbins.  Maggie Shipley had her fourth foul early in the third quarter but had five assists and a huge basket on a drive late to keep CNU at arm's length.

CNU had not trailed by more than 9 all year, found themselves down 12 at half and as many as 16 in the third before a 11-0 run spanning the third and fourth quarters closed the gap to 4 with 5:31 remaining.  But Trinity would get enough timely baskets down the stretch and finally got in the bonus for the first time all game (3 FTs in the first 3 2/3 quarters) so that fouls turned into FTs.  A consolation three at the buzzer by the Captains made the final margin 76-71.


Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Navy on March 11, 2022, 07:07:17 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on March 11, 2022, 07:03:21 PM
Hailey.  Freaking.  Coleman.  28 points including 11-for-11 to start and 8 boards before being slowed by her 4th foul.

20 for Ashlyn Milton including 4 3's. 9 boards from the shortest Tiger, Maggie Robbins.  Maggie Shipley had her fourth foul early in the third quarter but had five assists and a huge basket on a drive late to keep CNU at arm's length.

CNU had not trailed by more than 9 all year, found themselves down 12 at half and as many as 16 in the third before a 11-0 run spanning the third and fourth quarters closed the gap to 4 with 5:31 remaining.  But Trinity would get enough timely baskets down the stretch and finally got in the bonus for the first time all game (3 FTs in the first 3 2/3 quarters) so that fouls turned into FTs.  A consolation three at the buzzer by the Captains made the final margin 76-71.

Great rundown, Ron!  I'm sure the win is empowering, but the close end should provide a dose of playoff humility.

Go Tigers!
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on March 11, 2022, 08:57:53 PM
LET'S GO!!! GREAT ATMOSPHERE!!! Besides the mask wearing! Lol. Had to provide booster or negative test results to get in door! Our girls played their asses off! I don't think CNU has ever seen that much energy from an opposing team!
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Navy on March 11, 2022, 09:03:45 PM
Quote from: TroyP on March 11, 2022, 08:57:53 PM
LET'S GO!!! GREAT ATMOSPHERE!!! Besides the mask wearing! Lol. Had to provide booster or negative test results to get in door! Our girls played their asses off! I don't think CNU has ever seen that much energy from an opposing team!

Watching the Tufts - Amherst game now.  Also a tough game at the last.  Tomorrow will be a hard fought match, but I see the speed and inside strength of Trinity taking the day. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Toby Taff on March 11, 2022, 10:09:48 PM
congrats to TU's lady Tigers. Get that win tomorrow night for Texas!
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 11, 2022, 11:47:31 PM
Quote from: Toby Taff on March 11, 2022, 10:09:48 PM
congrats to TU's lady Tigers. Get that win tomorrow night for Texas!

Heckuva season for UMHB and showed their quality with that huge comeback that fell just short tonight.  Good luck to your men tomorrow night!
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 12, 2022, 07:41:16 PM
A journey to an emergency vet (where I still am) kept me from watching but sadly Trinity's run has come to an end.  Looks like Amherst found the home hoops friendly as they shot 50% from three and basically the same percentage overall.  Very proud of the TU women who went a lot further than anyone expected this year. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on March 12, 2022, 10:09:55 PM
Great host at Amherst, the crowd was electric. The Lady Tigers had a great record breaking season. I was hoping to make a trip to Pittsburg next weekend, can't wait for next season to start!
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 13, 2022, 04:40:21 PM
Quote from: TroyP on March 12, 2022, 10:09:55 PM
Great host at Amherst, the crowd was electric. The Lady Tigers had a great record breaking season. I was hoping to make a trip to Pittsburg next weekend, can't wait for next season to start!
Respectfully TroyP, to which records are you referring? Trinity was National Champion in 2003.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on March 13, 2022, 05:03:29 PM
Tied for most wins in program history, longest win streak in program history, Ashlyn Milton blew the single season 3 pointers made away. Broke the most 3 pointers as a team in a single game multiple times this year, most points scored in a single game in school history. There are more, I would have to look up. 2003 was the best finish in school history obviously, but this was the second best. If they would have lost to Colorado in the SCAC championship game they most likely would not even made the tournament, but went on to beat, #25, #4 and #1, then lost to #8. I know these aren't all records, but they bettered some long standing records throughout the year.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on March 13, 2022, 05:08:02 PM
This is from a post of mine after the Schreiner game.

So I looked up the team stats and in the game against Schreiner the girls beat more records than mentioned.

Most points in a game 122 vs 110 in 2003
Most FG made in a game 50 vs 48 in 2003
Best FG % 66.7 vs 65.5 in 2001
Most Assist 36 vs 33 in 2003
Most 3-PT FG made 14 vs 10 (happened 7 different times)
Currently have a 159 made 3 pointers (6 teams in past have more, 206 being the all time season record.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on March 13, 2022, 05:18:32 PM
We ended up with 226 three pointers on the season, another record.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 14, 2022, 02:06:28 AM
+1, thanks
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: monsoon on March 15, 2022, 11:35:04 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on March 12, 2022, 07:41:16 PM
A journey to an emergency vet (where I still am) kept me from watching but sadly Trinity's run has come to an end.  Looks like Amherst found the home hoops friendly as they shot 50% from three and basically the same percentage overall.  Very proud of the TU women who went a lot further than anyone expected this year.

I hope everything turned out OK for your pet.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 16, 2022, 02:50:54 PM
Quote from: monsoon on March 15, 2022, 11:35:04 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on March 12, 2022, 07:41:16 PM
A journey to an emergency vet (where I still am) kept me from watching but sadly Trinity's run has come to an end.  Looks like Amherst found the home hoops friendly as they shot 50% from three and basically the same percentage overall.  Very proud of the TU women who went a lot further than anyone expected this year.

I hope everything turned out OK for your pet.

Thank you.  Sammy is still there but has improved markedly and we believe will be coming home today.

Thanks to d3hoops voters for selecting Hailey Coleman as the Region X PoTY and Coach Hill as the Region X CoTY.  As I said in an email to Coach earlier this week, and with all due respect to the '03 National Champion team, this was the best team Trinity has ever put on the court.  The game is played at a much higher level than it was nearly 20 years ago.  Amherst, comfortably at home for its fourth straight playoff game, had one hot half-quarter where they seemingly couldn't miss and that kept the TU road warriors from their second-ever appearance at the Final Four.   
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 19, 2022, 03:31:03 PM
And an even larger thanks to D3hoops voters for today naming Hailey Coleman first team All-America.  https://d3hoops.com/awards/all-americans/women/2022

That's Trinity's first All-America nod of any kind since 2020 (Abby Holland, third team) and only the second time a Trinity player has been named to the first team (Tara Rhode, 2005).
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on April 19, 2022, 01:22:45 PM
Cedar Park (TX)'s Elaine King, a 6'0" PF, announced that she will be playing for Trinity.  She was the 25-5A Defensive PoTY for the nation's #11 ranked team (MaxPreps) which recently completed a 37-0 season with its second straight Texas 5A state championship.  Welcome to TUWBB!

https://twitter.com/CPLadyWolves/status/1516386553064574980
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on May 01, 2022, 04:21:18 PM
Skye ORourke as well, she is from Austin area as well, Vandegrift HS, was 2x 6A All State selection and a McDonalds All American Nominee and Co-offensive POY in her district, looks like Cam and Joe continue to bring in some solid players.

https://twitter.com/orourke_skye/status/1511353338746581001?s=21&t=OqeAHr9-BJ2rWN0t33OBag
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on May 12, 2022, 01:30:41 AM
Josie Napoli is transferring from Pacific Lutheran. She started in all but one game for them last year as a Freshman. Averaged a team high 14.7 points per game. Also led the team in minutes played, assists and steals.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on May 12, 2022, 10:20:20 AM
Quote from: TroyP on May 12, 2022, 01:30:41 AM
Josie Napoli is transferring from Pacific Lutheran. She started in all but one game for them last year as a Freshman. Averaged a team high 14.7 points per game. Also led the team in minutes played, assists and steals.

This sounds like another great example of the staff working the phone lines/intrawebs.

With the departures of both Hailey Coleman and Kelly Simmons, Trinity may have to play a more outside game next season.  Maggie Shipley will certainly get her share of points inside but she's more of a penetrator than someone who dominates in the post.  It will be interesting to see who else comes to San Antonio in the fall - some size, always a rare thing at this level, would be welcome. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on July 10, 2022, 07:22:37 PM
Huge loss for Trinity this week as Assistant Coach Joe Shotland has taken the Head Coaching position at UTD Comets. The next asst will have some huge shoes to fill. Wish Coach Joe all the luck in the world at UTD.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on August 11, 2022, 02:15:43 PM
Fun story about some of the TU ballers (on both the men's and women's side) participating in a D3 group that played in Brazil this summer:   https://www.trinitytigers.com/sports/mbkb/2022-23/releases/20220811hfgm1r
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on September 30, 2022, 12:28:03 PM
Kelly Simmons '22 won't be leaving the program after all - she was just announced as the assistant coach for her alma mater.  Congrats, Kelly!

https://www.trinitytigers.com/sports/wbkb/2022-23/releases/20220929xnpfw8

Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on September 30, 2022, 12:47:58 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on September 30, 2022, 12:28:03 PM
Kelly Simmons '22 won't be leaving the program after all - she was just announced as the assistant coach for her alma mater.  Congrats, Kelly!

https://www.trinitytigers.com/sports/wbkb/2022-23/releases/20220929xnpfw8

Bravo! Kelly was a favorite from my 2018 prospect list; her family reassignment to Texas was to Trinity's benefit.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on October 31, 2022, 04:54:01 PM
Trinity picked up another transfer, A'Nnika Saenz from D1 UT-Rio Grande Valley of the WAC, who saw limited playing time in 14 games last season but at 5'11" should add height to the Tiger backcourt, especially if she can combine with Maggie Shipley (6'0").  TU starts the season ranked fifth in the initial D3hoops.com Top 25 (https://d3hoops.com/top25/women/2022-23/preseason). 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 08, 2022, 11:37:18 AM
Riley Zayas, of Tru to the Cru fame, is doing a substack focused on D3 women's basketball (all of it, not UMHB).  Have a look and sign up at https://d3wbbscoop.substack.com/p/november-8-2022-the-season-has-arrived
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Riley Zayas on November 08, 2022, 12:54:32 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on November 08, 2022, 11:37:18 AM
Riley Zayas, of Tru to the Cru fame, is doing a substack focused on D3 women's basketball (all of it, not UMHB).  Have a look and sign up at https://d3wbbscoop.substack.com/p/november-8-2022-the-season-has-arrived

Thanks Ron! Appreciate it. Yes, I'll be covering all things WBB in a pretty concise format each day. Should be a lot of fun. I'll also be on Hoopsville talking women's hoops once again this season. And never hesitate to reach out with any notables, thoughts, feedback!
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 11, 2022, 11:03:02 PM
The Trinity women got their season off to a rollicking start with a 140-87 demolition of Birmingham-Southern at a tournament in Alabama.

Yes, 140 points.  According to TU SID that is the highest output at any level of NCAA WBB in nearly three years, and it marked the first time any women's basketball team scored at least 30 points each quarter since the four quarter season was instituted in 2015-16.

Trinity was led by a combined 20-21 shooting performance from seniors Addie Putnam (11-11 including 2-2 from deep, 26 points) and Claire Hale (20 points on a "pedestrian" 9-of-10).  Both players suffered through DNP-Injury for the duration of last season.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on November 11, 2022, 11:16:32 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on November 11, 2022, 11:03:02 PM
The Trinity women got their season off to a rollicking start with a 140-87 demolition of Birmingham-Southern at a tournament in Alabama.

Yes, 140 points.  According to TU SID that is the highest output at any level of NCAA WBB in nearly three years, and it marked the first time any women's basketball team scored at least 30 points each quarter since the four quarter season was instituted in 2015-16.

Trinity was led by a combined 20-21 shooting performance from seniors Addie Putnam (11-11 including 2-2 from deep, 26 points) and Claire Hale (20 points on a "pedestrian" 9-of-10).  Both players suffered through DNP-Injury for the duration of last season.

See the Hope boxscore earlier tonite.  ;)
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 11, 2022, 11:25:41 PM
Lol figures
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: TroyP on November 12, 2022, 12:10:36 AM
A nice start to the season, hoping my kid can heal up and get out there.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 20, 2022, 04:06:07 PM
Maggie Shipley went down with a shoulder or arm injury against HPU and didn't start today so at this point I'm hoping it wasn't a season-ending injury.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 23, 2022, 11:53:30 AM
Good win for Trinity at HSU last night - details in Riley's substack (https://d3wbbscoop.substack.com/) (once today's article is published), but a pretty back-and-forth game until Ashlyn Milton (a game-high 17 points) hit three straight threes in the fourth quarter to account for most of the final 76-69 margin.  The teams will resume battle Saturday afternoon in San Antonio and it'll be interesting to see how the teams make adjustments given the short timeframe (and Thanksgiving in-between).   

Ashlyn is shooting the three ball well so far in this young season, 12-30 (40%) largely on the strength of 8-12 in the last two games.   
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Riley Zayas on November 23, 2022, 12:14:59 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on November 23, 2022, 11:53:30 AM
Good win for Trinity at HSU last night - details in Riley's substack (https://d3wbbscoop.substack.com/) (once today's article is published), but a pretty back-and-forth game until Ashlyn Milton (a game-high 17 points) hit three straight threes in the fourth quarter to account for most of the final 76-69 margin.  The teams will resume battle Saturday afternoon in San Antonio and it'll be interesting to see how the teams make adjustments given the short timeframe (and Thanksgiving in-between).   

Ashlyn is shooting the three ball well so far in this young season, 12-30 (40%) largely on the strength of 8-12 in the last two games.

Milton has really emerged and her play was key down the stretch. As I mentioned in my post today, I was most impressed by Trinity's defensive effort, which led to points on the offensive end too. HSU likes to play fast, and push it in transition. Trinity hung with them extremely well. As you said, I'll be interested to see how Saturday's game plays out and what adjustments are made. If Trinity wins both of these, I could see them going to #4 in the Top 25, though Whitewater has a really strong case as well.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Navy on November 28, 2022, 09:37:02 PM
Trinity is rolling.  The pressure they apply is severe and it becomes very, very difficult for opposing teams when TU takes 30 more shots and causes 25 more turnovers.

Maggie Robbins has emerged as an outstanding team leader and force across all aspects of the game.  Back-to-back personal scoring bests and leading the team in rebounding last night against LeTourneau.  A special player.

All 15 players played and scored last night as well.

It'll be a tall order to match the athleticism of this team. 

Yet another tremendous team in an amazing year of athletics for the Tigers!
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 30, 2022, 08:01:57 AM
All 15 who were able to play ... Maggie Shipley and Ava Limonciello were out with injuries.  Hopefully we get them both back before the big matchup with undefeated UMHB on the 19th.

Speaking of USBWA national player-of-the-week Maggie Robbins (https://www.scacsports.com/sports/wbkb/2022-23/releases/Robbins_USBWA_POTW), it's hard to believe she was only named honorable-mention all-SCAC last season despite leading the conference in steals by a wide margin.  Hopefully between being named the MVP of the SCAC tournament and her play this year, the coaches will give her a little more credit when the end of season awards come around this year.  She has really stepped up her play since Shipley went down.

Oh, and with his next win Coach Hill will set the all-time win record for TUWB, surpassing Becky Geyer with whom he is tied after Sunday's victory. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 01, 2022, 08:13:01 AM
Schreiner may be a threat in the SCAC this year.  After they pushed UMHB to the end last night (tied with under a minute left before losing by three) I had a quick look at their results and while they are only 3-5, played HSU tight before losing by 4, put 120+ on Birmingham-Southern in a 32 point win, lost to McMurry (now 6-0) and Millsaps (6-2) in OT in their opener and third game, easily handled HPU and got past LeTourneau.  The only bad loss was by double digits to Sul Ross (3-3).   It's a young team with three sophomore starters and one which deploys a pressure game, averaging 12+ steals per contest. 

After an eastern swing to open SCAC play (at St Thomas/Centenary) they will play three straight road games against scholarship opponents UIW (D1), St Mary's (D2), Angelo State (D1) which should prepare them well for their next SCAC game Dec 29 at Trinity before returning for their only home game of the month against Colorado College. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 20, 2022, 11:55:16 AM
(now) #3 Trinity jumped out to a huge early lead at home against #16 UMHB on the strength of a 17-0 first quarter run, but the Lady Cru's defensive pressure and length got to Trinity, UMHB figured out a way around the Tiger pressure, and during a huge third quarter trimmed what was a 20-point lead a minute into the quarter all the way down to two six minutes later.  The home team would find its offense again in the fourth - mostly in the paint with strong play from Claire Hale (six of her eight points) before she fouled out - to win 74-63 on a day when the outcome could have been different had UMHB's shooting touch (21-77, 27.3%) been just a bit more accurate.  Trinity was again led by Ashlyn Milton's 21, with 11 each from Maggie Robbins and Addie Putnam, who also had 11 boards.  UMHB was led by Ashley Faux's 16 and 12; Weade Adeleke was the only other Cru player in double figures with 13 despite playing in foul trouble most of the night.  Leading scorer Arieona Rosborough also battled foul trouble all night and was held to 2 points in her 20 minutes.

This is a *very* young UMHB team (17 freshman players, 7 sophomores, 8 juniors, only one senior) who with continued development will be a force in the region for years to come. 

For Trinity, the best news of the evening was the return of Maggie Shipley, who saw spot duty (2 points in 9 minutes) early in the game.  Her injured shoulder was heavily braced.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 28, 2022, 12:30:03 PM
Trinity's upcoming game against Schreiner could be interesting as the Mountaineers have played three straight scholarship opponents this month.  Two were losses to D1 opponents, but in the third Schreiner defeated D2 St Mary's (TX) [5-5/1-3 LSC] by a 66-62 count, forcing 22 turnovers thanks largely to 15 steals.  The other two weren't close (a 92-41 loss at Incarnate Word, and a 101-65 loss at Angelo State) but playing against that level of competition should be very good preparation for Thursday. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 30, 2022, 11:07:08 AM
An interesting game yesterday where both teams showed the effect of a long holiday break (it took over two minutes before anyone could score).  Schreiner had the best of it early, jumping out to a 16-5 lead with just over a minute left in the first quarter and holding a 18-11 lead at the end of the quarter despite some sloppy play that led to a couple of turnovers and easy baskets in the last minute.  The visitors would expand that lead to 13 just over a minute into the quarter before Trinity would slowly reel them in the rest of the half to trail by one at the break, 32-31. 

The third quarter was the difference as the Tiger women would outscore their entire first half to take a 63-41 lead, and while Schreiner would chip into the advantage in the final stanza, the difference was too much to overcome as the home team would emerge victorious by a 74-60 count.  Despite foul trouble limiting her to 21 minutes, Ashlyn Milton once again led the way (and all scorers) with 20 points including 4-of-6 from beyond the arc; Josline Hernandez led Schreiner with 13. 

Schreiner is a quick team who had effective defensive rotations, and usually was able to escape Trinity's press with little difficulty.  Steals were relatively even at 17-16 Trinity, but Schreiner did suffer 38 turnovers to Trinity's 31 - numbers way higher than either coach would like. 

Next up for both squads is Colorado College, who at 6-5 have recovered nicely from a 1-4 start, with the only loss in their last six a 34-point blowout to undefeated #4 CNU (11-0) in Puerto Rico.  The Colorado Tigers face Schreiner in Kerrville on New Year's Eve, then head to San Antonio two days later to face Trinity on Monday. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 06, 2023, 09:45:00 AM
Trying to figure out what has gone so wrong so quickly in Sherman, where Austin College has struggled to a very uncharacteristic 0-13 start.  There were some losses to graduation (Natalie McCoy and Kacie West, the top two scorers) but from a very quick comparison of last year's and this year's rosters it looks like over half of last year's undergraduates did not return (only 6 of 13, if my quick comparison is correct).  None of the non-returnees were significant contributors.  That said, the 'Roos came within two at Millsaps (10-2) last month, shortly thereafter took UT-Dallas to OT, but last week fell at Centenary for the Ladies' first win of the season.  It won't get any easier for Coach Filander's squad this weekend as they face Schreiner tonight and Trinity tomorrow. 

Speaking of Trinity (now receiving multiple first-place votes and up to #2 in the d3hoops.com poll), it was great to see Maggie Shipley have a breakout game Sunday against Colorado College, and if you watched the first half, when she was held scoreless on 0-5 shooting, you never saw it coming.  The shoulder injury has taken some adjusting to, obviously, but Maggie once again showed her potential in the second half where she scored 19 points on 7-9 shooting (1-2 from deep) and 4-5 from the line.  Her 19 points in only 19 minutes led all scorers.  Here's to continued healing and recovery the rest of the way.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 06, 2023, 11:46:22 PM
One of the wildest statistical games you'll ever see in a losing effort for Austin College tonight. They got a SCAC record 13 threes from Megan O'Neil (second most in D3 WBB history), 25 rebounds (fourth most in SCAC history) from Naomi Anamekwe, and 12 assists from Sarah Gwin while shooting 47.4% from three as a team... and lost by 20, because they turned it over 25 times with those turnovers resulting in 43 points for Schreiner.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Navy on January 07, 2023, 10:26:47 AM
Quote from: jekelish on January 06, 2023, 11:46:22 PM
One of the wildest statistical games you'll ever see in a losing effort for Austin College tonight. They got a SCAC record 13 threes from Megan O'Neil (second most in D3 WBB history), 25 rebounds (fourth most in SCAC history) from Naomi Anamekwe, and 12 assists from Sarah Gwin while shooting 47.4% from three as a team... and lost by 20, because they turned it over 25 times with those turnovers resulting in 43 points for Schreiner.

Amazing!  It's been fun watching SCAC women this year.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 07, 2023, 11:07:22 AM
The other game in North Texas was a foul-infested mess (52 called) where Trinity won 78-67 despite having three starters foul out (including Ashlyn Milton whose night ended after only 18 minutes on the floor) and another ending the game with four.  Fortunately Maggie Shipley again led the way off the bench, scoring a season-high 22 points in 29 minutes (7-14, 1-4 from deep, 7-8 from the line), likely a few more than planned due to the team's foul troubles.  Josie Napoli also had a season high 19 (on 8-10 shooting, 2-2 from deep) before fouling out with 1:34 remaining.  Despite the tight calls, Trinity was able to force 16 steals - seven by Maggie Robbins, who also had six assists to lead the team - and 27 UD turnovers.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Navy on January 07, 2023, 06:49:58 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on January 07, 2023, 11:07:22 AM
The other game in North Texas was a foul-infested mess (52 called) where Trinity won 78-67 despite having three starters foul out (including Ashlyn Milton whose night ended after only 18 minutes on the floor) and another ending the game with four.  Fortunately Maggie Shipley again led the way off the bench, scoring a season-high 22 points in 29 minutes (7-14, 1-4 from deep, 7-8 from the line), likely a few more than planned due to the team's foul troubles.  Josie Napoli also had a season high 19 (on 8-10 shooting, 2-2 from deep) before fouling out with 1:34 remaining.  Despite the tight calls, Trinity was able to force 16 steals - seven by Maggie Robbins, who also had six assists to lead the team - and 27 UD turnovers.

That U Dallas game was an interesting one.  Trinity raced out early to a big lead but seemed to stall.  I'm also curious about the absence of Maggie Robbins recently as a scorer.  A few weeks ago, she won the national player of the week honor after 18- and 20-point outings.  Perhaps that is a capability Trinity wanted to put on display but is now keeping in reserve?

They played superbly a few minutes ago against Austin College, a game that included Ashlyn Milton becoming the leading 3-point shooter in Trinity history.  So much fun to watch!
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 15, 2023, 01:18:52 PM
Quote from: D3Navy on January 07, 2023, 06:49:58 PM
I'm also curious about the absence of Maggie Robbins recently as a scorer.  A few weeks ago, she won the national player of the week honor after 18- and 20-point outings.

I think it was more a matter of Trinity having to find offense early after Maggie Simmons went down; that and the teams they were playing at the time were leaving the inside more open than teams they've played recently.  Maggie R has traditionally been more of a facilitator and defensive difference-maker and seems to have returned to that role as of late.

Two very different games this weekend.  As they are wont to do - especially in Seguin - TLU played Trinity very well in a physical game that saw the visitors awarded no fewer than 43 free throws.  In what has become a welcome development of late, Josie Napoli, who transferred from PLU after leading the Lutes in scoring (14.7ppg) as a first year, led the way with 23 points on a night when both Ashlyn Milton and Maggie Shipley would struggle (a combined 3-9).  Maggie Robbins was active driving to the basket and contributed most of her 15 from the charity stripe.  Trinity won 76-65 in a game where three of the five starters played at least 33 minutes.

Yesterday's experience in Southwestern was totally different as the team jumped all over the Pirates early in a game which was over before halftime by which time the Tigers had doubled up the home team by a 78-39 count.  The 42 points scored in the first quarter on nearly 70% shooting while forcing 13 turnovers (ten steals) would break a school record set earlier in the season.  Once again Napoli led the way, this time from beyond the arc where she went 6-of-9 on her way to scoring 24 - one off her career high scored at PLU - in just 16 minutes.  Milton found her shot again, scoring 21 on 5-of-7 from deep, also in just 16 minutes.  Other double digit scorers:  Shipley, 12 points in 15 minutes off the bench, Claire Hale, 11 in 11, and Bailey Timmons who had 10 off the bench in 14 minutes.  I have no doubt Trinity could have put 150 on the board had they wanted against the outmanned Pirates this night, but Coach Hill used the opportunity to get playing time for the entire bench with all but one player getting at least 10 minutes in a 125-89 win (that player, Jennifer Tierney, was the only player not to score in her nine minutes).  Maggie Robbins only took one shot but contributed eight assists and three steals in her 14 minutes.  As Georgetown is a few minutes up the road I got to be there and the first half was a thing of beauty to behold. 

Trinity returns home next weekend for what should be two relatively easy games against Centenary and St. Thomas, then has the following weekend off before what should be the toughest remaining games on the regular-season calendar at Schreiner the last day of the month, followed by the annual hop onto Southwest (?) to play Colorado College the first Saturday in February.  They close out conference play with four straight at home against the four they played this week and last before hosting the conference championships at the end of February. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 16, 2023, 04:35:57 PM
I just saw the footage from the end of the third quarter in the Southwestern/Schreiner game on Friday night and... oof. Tough sequence of events for the conference with what was essentially a bench clearing brawl (short-lived, but still, punches were thrown, players were tackled, players came off the bench, ejections were made, etc). Not a great look for either team, especially since the foul that incited it wasn't particularly dirty.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: gordonmann on January 16, 2023, 08:27:42 PM
Congrats to Trinity which is ranked No. 1 for the first time since they were defending champions (December 2003)

https://www.d3hoops.com/top25/women/2022-23/week7
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 17, 2023, 10:56:40 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on January 16, 2023, 08:27:42 PM
Congrats to Trinity which is ranked No. 1 for the first time since they were defending champions (December 2003)

https://www.d3hoops.com/top25/women/2022-23/week7
I remember the night in December 2023 in Abilene when McMurry beat #1 Trinity in Week #6 of the season to drop TUTx to 9-1. Somehow or another, a picture of the scoreboard made it to the front page of D3Hoops.com commemorating the game.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 18, 2023, 08:35:03 AM
That 2003 championship was such a bolt out of the blue.  If memory serves they were plugging along until Megan Selmon (https://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/news-photo/megan-selmon-of-trinity-university-drives-to-the-hoop-news-photo/641105948) returned from her mission trip in January and once she did everything started clicking.  To show exactly how unexpected that championship was, Trinity had never made it even to the Elite Eight before, and never afterwards until last season.  I remember listening to the championship audio webcast (I think Pat and company were doing them at that point, since video webcasts were a fantasy that early in the internet era, and the NCAA wasn't doing it) and it was a real nailbiter.

Selmon graduated after the championship, and Trinity didn't even make the playoffs the following season. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: gordonmann on January 18, 2023, 12:07:58 PM
Yes, I remember that game!

Mark Simon, Ray Martel and I had the call from Terre Haute, Indiana! We sat right in the middle of the Eastern Connecticut family section.

Good times. :)
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 30, 2023, 10:51:54 AM
Given the forecast for freezing rain in the Texas Hill Country starting today into Wednesday and the number of overpasses/bridges between San Antonio and Kerrville that could easily ice over, I would not be surprised to see Tuesday's game at Schreiner against Trinity be postponed. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Riley Zayas on January 30, 2023, 11:08:33 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on January 30, 2023, 10:51:54 AM
Given the forecast for freezing rain in the Texas Hill Country starting today into Wednesday and the number of overpasses/bridges between San Antonio and Kerrville that could easily ice over, I would not be surprised to see Tuesday's game at Schreiner against Trinity be postponed.

Thinking the same. Too far of a drive with too many bridges which can be especially problematic. Even UMHB's trip to Alpine could be in question, as Alpine is supposed to get freezing rain on Wednesday, which is the day they're driving out there (I think). We'll see.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on January 30, 2023, 01:23:07 PM
It's hitting north Texas, too. Austin College's campus is closed down, with worse weather expected as the week goes on. It's supposed to be better and warmer later in the week, but there's certainly a possibility the roads could still be hazardous for UST when they head to Sherman. Not sure if they're leaving Thursday, or Friday morning, but it's looking like Thursday might end up being a no-go based on current forecasts.  Friday is supposed to be in the high 40s/low 50s and sunny, so it should be cleared out by the weekend, however.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 30, 2023, 09:24:58 PM
TU-Schreiner moved to Wednesday night but that seems equally unlikely at this point, to be honest.

Then again, I only had one course in Meteorology.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 01, 2023, 03:06:20 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on January 30, 2023, 09:24:58 PM
TU-Schreiner moved to Wednesday night but that seems equally unlikely at this point, to be honest.

Then again, I only had one course in Meteorology.

This game still seems to be on as they posted on social media about it a short while ago. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Navy on February 01, 2023, 06:50:30 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 01, 2023, 03:06:20 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on January 30, 2023, 09:24:58 PM
TU-Schreiner moved to Wednesday night but that seems equally unlikely at this point, to be honest.

Then again, I only had one course in Meteorology.

This game still seems to be on as they posted on social media about it a short while ago.

Watching now.  Poor shooting by Trinity early.  That will likely change.

Superb play-by-play from the Schreiner announcer!
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 01, 2023, 11:40:12 PM
Seems like the refs didn't care much for Maggie R's aggressive style of play, fouling her out in all of twelve minutes.   
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Navy on February 02, 2023, 09:17:07 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 01, 2023, 11:40:12 PM
Seems like the refs didn't care much for Maggie R's aggressive style of play, fouling her out in all of twelve minutes.

I missed most of her playing time during a power outage.  Six yesterday!

Were the calls fair?
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 02, 2023, 12:17:32 PM
Quote from: D3Navy on February 02, 2023, 09:17:07 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 01, 2023, 11:40:12 PM
Seems like the refs didn't care much for Maggie R's aggressive style of play, fouling her out in all of twelve minutes.

I missed most of her playing time during a power outage.  Six yesterday!

Were the calls fair?

Well .. she played eight minutes in the first quarter and picked up one foul.  Came back at the start of the second quarter, picked up her second ten seconds in what watching the replay looked like it should have been on Napoli.  The third a couple minutes later was a touch foul, as was the fourth a minute into the third quarter.  She deservedly picked up the last a minute into her return in the fourth, probably so frustrated at sitting on the bench all night that she plowed right into a well-set Schreiner defender. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 05, 2023, 04:57:53 PM
I couldn't get the live video to work on Chrome, the live stats never worked, but got it going in Edge just in time to see Colorado College knock off Trinity 70-64.   Will look forward to Riley's writeup (I'm sure he was watching) and the respective game stories.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Navy on February 05, 2023, 06:24:28 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 05, 2023, 04:57:53 PM
I couldn't get the live video to work on Chrome, the live stats never worked, but got it going in Edge just in time to see Colorado College knock off Trinity 70-64.   Will look forward to Riley's writeup (I'm sure he was watching) and the respective game stories.

In a nutshell, CC executed a great game plan - contest every 3-pointer and force Trinity inside.  TU shot 1-13 from 3-point land and the shots weren't dropping inside. 

A wake-up call.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 06, 2023, 08:39:05 PM
Quote from: D3Navy on February 05, 2023, 06:24:28 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 05, 2023, 04:57:53 PM
I couldn't get the live video to work on Chrome, the live stats never worked, but got it going in Edge just in time to see Colorado College knock off Trinity 70-64.   Will look forward to Riley's writeup (I'm sure he was watching) and the respective game stories.

In a nutshell, CC executed a great game plan - contest every 3-pointer and force Trinity inside.  TU shot 1-13 from 3-point land and the shots weren't dropping inside. 

A wake-up call.

CC has a great combination of size, experience, and outside shooting. I thought they'd challenge Trinity for the title this year, but was still a bit surprised they controlled the second half as much as they did. And that was even with Zoe Tomlinson barely playing.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 11, 2023, 12:41:47 AM
Unfortunately for the Tigers, none of that mattered tonight as they lost to TLU in Seguin, 54-48, in a game where they were held to 34% from the floor.  TLU actually came within 3 when the two teams played in the Springs.

CC continues to underperform away from home; earlier in the season they had to stage a fourth-quarter comeback to beat UDallas by 2 on the road - after destroying the Crusaders by 49 points on their own court.

Trinity got back on track with their own pasting of Dallas tonight, 109-47, led by Claire Hale's 18 points in as many minutes.  Nearly half of the visitors' scoring (21 points on 39 attempts) came from the stripe as they were held to 31% shooting on 38 attempts while Trinity forced 42 turnovers.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Navy on February 11, 2023, 11:11:49 AM
Trinity with SIX plyers in double figures.  This seemed to be a statement game following the loss in Colorado Springs last weekend.  I note that Ashlyn Milton and Maggie Shipley, typically big scoring contributors, combined for 6 points.  This team is very deep.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 11, 2023, 12:45:29 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 11, 2023, 12:41:47 AM
Unfortunately for the Tigers, none of that mattered tonight as they lost to TLU in Seguin, 54-48, in a game where they were held to 34% from the floor.  TLU actually came within 3 when the two teams played in the Springs.

CC continues to underperform away from home; earlier in the season they had to stage a fourth-quarter comeback to beat UDallas by 2 on the road - after destroying the Crusaders by 49 points on their own court.

Trinity got back on track with their own pasting of Dallas tonight, 109-47, led by Claire Hale's 18 points in as many minutes.  Nearly half of the visitors' scoring (21 points on 39 attempts) came from the stripe as they were held to 31% shooting on 38 attempts while Trinity forced 42 turnovers.
It has got to be "too much oxygen" in the air. It is like playing in a Hyperbaric Chamber.
;)
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 16, 2023, 08:09:02 PM
Somehow I was not surprised by the top 16 seeds just announced, as Trinity fell below both a four-loss UWW (last night's loss too late to be included) and a four-loss Babson (with three double-digit losses including a 21-point blowout at home to a regionally-ranked opponent that didn't make the top 16) to be ranked eighth.  Once again, the almighty SOS drives rankings almost to the exclusion of all else; if 22-1 / 5-1 isn't considered better than 19-4 / 9-4 when three of those four losses were by ten or more, I don't know what is.

Another sign of the focus on SOS is Hardin-Simmons, 21-2/3-2 (with the two losses to Trinity)/.536, not cracking the top 16.  And this focus hurts the teams west of the Mississippi who don't have a lot of opportunity to schedule teams outside their conference (or in a wide range of other conferences) due to the costs involved.  No Region 10 men's team made the top 16 despite St. Thomas' 19-2 / 3-0 / .565.

1. Smith (22-1)
2. Scranton (23-0)
3. CNU (22-0)
4. NYU (19-2)
5. Transylvania (23-0)
6. UW-W (19-5 [19-4 when rankings determined])
7. Babson (19-4)
8. Trinity TX (22-1)
9. Ohio Northern (20-3)
10. Tufts (18-6)
11. Wash U (16-6)
12. Trinity CT (20-4)
13. Baldwin-Wallace (20-3)
14. Ithaca (21-1)
15. Hope (20-2)
16. U Chicago (18-4)
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 17, 2023, 08:46:03 AM
+1!
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 17, 2023, 09:58:56 AM

It's very clear the one loss did them in.  They've got a better resume than Transylvania otherwise, so it makes little sense to have Transy so high - a real bonus for being undefeated, I guess.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 27, 2023, 03:27:59 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 17, 2023, 09:58:56 AM

It's very clear the one loss did them in.  They've got a better resume than Transylvania otherwise, so it makes little sense to have Transy so high - a real bonus for being undefeated, I guess.

And those top 16 seeds give us a potential CNU-Hope third-round matchup, with the winner of the Texas death match having a very good chance to meet that winner.  Terribly unfair to Hope who is much better than #15. 

It'll be the master vs. the student when Trinity and UT-D face off in the opening game Friday in San Antonio, with the winner to face the winner of HSU-Redlands on Saturday.  Pretty sure we can figure that one out before the game gets played; Trinity would have drawn Redlands absent the "no conference rematches in the opening round" rule.   
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 27, 2023, 04:38:22 PM
The schedule is out (https://www.ncaa.com/brackets/basketball-women/d3/2023) and in their infinite wisdom (?) the NCAA has made the better teams play the late game in the first round, giving them several hours less to recover for second.  This is consistent throughout. 

First round, 3/3:
- HSU - Redlands 5:30pm
- UTD - Trinity 8:00pm

Second round 3/4
- Regional final, 8pm
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedawg on February 28, 2023, 01:46:57 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 17, 2023, 09:58:56 AM

It's very clear the one loss did them in.  They've got a better resume than Transylvania otherwise, so it makes little sense to have Transy so high - a real bonus for being undefeated, I guess.

But a bonus that doesn't seem to have been applied to CNU and Scranton.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: nescac nostradamus on March 01, 2023, 01:53:15 PM
If chalk holds, and if CNU men win and host the second weekend, I'm not sure Trinity Tx will be the host for second weekend as most are currently discussing.  It appears the way the bracket was constructed, Tufts is the 7 seed and Trinity is the 9th.  I'm not sure if the hosting has to fall to the next highest seed, just pointing out Tufts is the higher seed.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedawg on March 01, 2023, 03:48:14 PM
I was trying to figure this out myself. I was finding it difficult to see any pattern in placement in the bracket.

For example, Scranton is bottom of their quadrant, but is definitely the top seed in that quadrant.

NYU is bottom in theirs, but not sure if NYU or Transylvania is considered the highest seed in that quadrant.

Smith and CNU are obviously top seeds in their quadrant and placed at the top.

In the bottom two quadrants the top 2 seeds are definitely top top and bottom bottom, so it would follow that Tufts and Whitewater are the 2nd highest seeds in their quadrants.

Tufts was 10th in the Top 16 reveal, Trinity (Texas) was 8th. Both have gone undefeated since then. I count 3 additional wins vRRO for Tufts and 1 for Trinity, so absolutely possible Tufts could've passed them.

Looking at placement between Tufts and Trinity Tx and Whitewater and Trinity Conn doesn't give me a resolution either. I do have Tufts ahead of Trinity Tx in my model which attempts to approximate what the committee is doing.  But I have Trinity Conn ahead of Whitewater. Yet Whitewater and Tufts are lined up.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: nescac nostradamus on March 01, 2023, 04:04:19 PM
Good points.  I guess you can make the argument that it doesn't matter if the top seed in a quadrant is at the top or the bottom of the bracket.  It does appear as if Whitewater is ahead of Trinity (Conn) and the top 8 seeds are at either the top or bottom of each quadrant.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 04, 2023, 11:04:00 PM
Maggie Shipley had her best back-to-back games of the season, showing increased comfort on drives to the basket in playoff wins over UT-Dallas and Hardin-Simmons.  In the first-round win, she started taking the ball inside much more in the second half with all but one of her shots in the paint, scoring 14 of her 18 points in the second half.  In tonight's game she was a dominant force offensively, scoring 30 points on 13-of-18; 10 layups, two jumpers on drives to the hoop, and one three (in her only attempt) to put an exclamation point on the final result.  Trinity found the Cowgirls' interior defense welcoming tonight as 50 of their points in the 88-69 win came from inside the paint.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 05, 2023, 04:23:18 PM
And no surprise, despite everyone having to fly because CNU can't host and Trinity by far having the superior resume of the three remaining teams, they have to fly to ONE OF THREE PODS TO BE HOSTED IN ****ING MASSACHUSETTS.   I'm writing my school's president and SID to ask them to protest the NCAA's continuous unfavorable treatment given to Division III schools west of the Mississippi.  I get having to travel when three other schools don't, even when you're the best school in a pod to save money, but today's decision is by far the most egregious misuse of the criteria to deprive the team that should be hosting of that right.  This year the national committee apparently decided that SOS is the most important criteria despite your record or how many losses you had.  Here is the tale of the tape, before the championships began:

Trinity:
Record: 28-1 (.966)
vs RRO: 6-1 (.857, net +5)
SOS: .521
Losses to non-regionally ranked opponents:  Zero
Home losses: Zero
Average margin in one defeat: -7.0
MOV, all games:  25.8

Tufts:
Record:  21-6 (.793)
vs RRO:  9-5 (.642; net +4)
SOS:  .643
Losses to non-regionally ranked opponents:  ONE (shouldn't this count for something?  Of course not)
Home losses: Two
Average Margin in six defeats: -12.0
MOV, all games:  7.5 

Tufts wins exactly ONE thing, SOS, but they lost to five of the teams that got them that SOS *and* lost to someone else who wasn't regionally ranked.  If you are going to use SOS as a primary criterion, you need to discount it for the teams you don't beat!  And when you look at the first two rounds:

Trinity:  2-0 vs RROs, average margin +18.0
Tufts:  1-0 vs RROs/1-0 vs non-RRO, average margin +12.0

So great job, national committee, focusing on SOS to the exclusion of all else to determine seeding.  And yes, before Dave chimes in here, I know that much of the above aren't official criteria.  But when you lose an eye test this badly, maybe it's time to adjust them.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Navy on March 05, 2023, 05:12:23 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on March 05, 2023, 04:23:18 PM
And no surprise, despite everyone having to fly because CNU can't host and Trinity by far having the superior resume of the three remaining teams, they have to fly to ONE OF THREE PODS TO BE HOSTED IN ****ING MASSACHUSETTS.   I'm writing my school's president and SID to ask them to protest the NCAA's continuous unfavorable treatment given to Division III schools west of the Mississippi.  I get having to travel when three other schools don't, even when you're the best school in a pod to save money, but today's decision is by far the most egregious misuse of the criteria to deprive the team that should be hosting of that right.  This year the national committee apparently decided that SOS is the most important criteria despite your record or how many losses you had.  Here is the tale of the tape, before the championships began:

Trinity:
Record: 28-1 (.966)
vs RRO: 6-1 (.857, net +5)
SOS: .521
Losses to non-regionally ranked opponents:  Zero
Home losses: Zero
Average margin in one defeat: -7.0
MOV, all games:  25.8

Tufts:
Record:  21-6 (.793)
vs RRO:  9-5 (.642; net +4)
SOS:  .643
Losses to non-regionally ranked opponents:  ONE (shouldn't this count for something?  Of course not)
Home losses: Two
Average Margin in six defeats: -12.0
MOV, all games:  7.5 

Tufts wins exactly ONE thing, SOS, but they lost to five of the teams that got them that SOS *and* lost to someone else who wasn't regionally ranked.  If you are going to use SOS as a primary criterion, you need to discount it for the teams you don't beat!  And when you look at the first two rounds:

Trinity:  2-0 vs RROs, average margin +18.0
Tufts:  1-0 vs RROs/1-0 vs non-RRO, average margin +12.0

So great job, national committee, focusing on SOS to the exclusion of all else to determine seeding.  And yes, before Dave chimes in here, I know that much of the above aren't official criteria.  But when you lose an eye test this badly, maybe it's time to adjust them.

I could not agree more.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 10, 2023, 09:18:52 PM
Trinity loses 65-52 in a game that saw two starters foul out, two others play with four, and the home team shoots 31 free throws to the visitors' 10.  Think that says it all.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: gordonmann on March 11, 2023, 10:41:36 AM
Yeah, I was at the game and felt really bad for Trinity.

The first three quarters were really close with buzzer beaters at the end of the first and second quarters and lots of lead changes. Then Trinity missed an open layup in the fourth quarter, and then another, and then another, then two free throws, and you could see the game get away from them.  They started chasing points from three and those shots also missed by increasing margins. At one point one of the players yelled at her teammates, "What are we doing?!" They didn't score until there was less than two minutes left in the quarter, at which point it was already over.

That's a really good team that deserved a better fate. Having your season -- and some case careers -- end on someone else's court as things fall part and you can't stop it was excruciating.

You won't be surprised, but they handled it with absolute class. Coach Hill thanked everyone at the officials table after the handshake line. Ashlyn and Maggie gave great answers in the postgame press conference that I'm sure they did not want to do. The poise they showed in the face of extreme disappointment is a testament to them as individuals and their program.

I don't want to take anything away from Tufts who's a great team. As Ashlyn said in the postgame press conference, all but one team are going to have their season end like this. But this felt like a cruel way for their season to end.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 11, 2023, 02:33:44 PM
Thanks for the perspective, Gordon.  Trinity loses Shipley, Milton, Hale, Putnam, and Nelson so this really was their best chance to hang a second championship banner in a long time.  TLU and Colorado are young and talented, Schreiner is coming along so they'll have a challenge just getting to the playoffs next season.  Coach Hill (always a class act in my experience) will have to bring the younger players along and convince them they can be the next part of the tradition he's established there.  And if he can find another transfer like he seems to do (Napoli was one of this year's transfers from PLU, Shipley came a couple years ago from Amherst) then all the better.  Robbins, their defensive anchor and spark plug, who unfortunately couldn't stay on the floor last night, has at least one more season and that will be a huge help early in the season while the returnees figure out their new, enlarged roles.  And they really missed the inside presence they lost when Hailey Coleman graduated last year.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 11, 2023, 03:49:15 PM
https://www.d3hoops.com/seasons/women/2022-23/boxscores/20230310_tfu7.xml?view=plays

TU shot 8 FT's in the first 3 quarters; Tufts, 16.

Quote from: gordonmann on March 11, 2023, 10:41:36 AM

The first three quarters were really close with buzzer beaters at the end of the first and second quarters and lots of lead changes. Then Trinity missed an open layup in the fourth quarter, and then another, and then another, then two free throws, and you could see the game get away from them.  ...

...and the home crowd begins to the detect a momentum shift and the home court advantage comes into play.

Quote from: gordonmann on March 11, 2023, 10:41:36 AM

That's a really good team that deserved a better fate. Having your season -- and some case careers -- end on someone else's court as things fall part and you can't stop it was excruciating.

You won't be surprised, but they handled it with absolute class. Coach Hill thanked everyone at the officials table after the handshake line. Ashlyn and Maggie gave great answers in the postgame press conference that I'm sure they did not want to do. The poise they showed in the face of extreme disappointment is a testament to them as individuals and their program.

... especially when the NCAA announced on Hoopsville with great excitement the seedings of the Top 16 teams.

Trinity was 2 slots ahead of Tufts. I am sure that the players were thinking, "Wow! #7! Let's take care of business."

Trinity went undefeated for the rest of the season. They beat 2 regionally ranked teams in the 1st weekend versus only 1 for Tufts. There were 4 teams at the next level who had to fly. What a chance for Trinity to host.

Gordon, was an injustice done to Trinity?
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: gordonmann on March 11, 2023, 05:58:11 PM
I had hoped this regional would be played at Trinity and agree that this was the year to do it with every team flying.

The Tigers probably weren't thinking about it during the game and Coach Hill said they just accept their fate as road teams in the second weekend. But, as the Tigers season was slipping away and the home crowd was riding them, it was hard not think about whether the result would've been different in Texas.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Navy on March 11, 2023, 06:59:05 PM
Trinity went inside early and had some success with finishing, particularly by Maggie Robbins.  I'd guess they were hoping a side effect would be hanging some fouls on Maggie Russell: she didn't bite.  Once the inside shots stopped falling for Trinity, Russell began to dominate.

I'd add that Tufts handled Trinity's full-court press very effectively thus depriving Trinity of a potent weapon.

I do believe the home court would have been significant had the game been played in San Antonio.  Not suggesting bias, but the regular refs in San Antonio are used to the scrappy, intrusive defense played by Trinity and may not have called some of the fouls like last night.

A terrific season played by a classy team.  They represent Trinity extremely well.  On to next year!
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 11, 2023, 09:14:05 PM
I am bitter enough to observe that tonight, when Tufts was the team having four players with four fouls and one who fouled out, that they too lost by double digits (16).

The CNU press was much more effective than was Trinity's, too.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 12, 2023, 12:54:09 AM
+1 to all for excellent comments.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 28, 2023, 02:03:10 PM
Claire Hale's dad wrote a wonderful retrospective to his daughter and the struggles she overcame - repeatedly - during her time at Trinity.  I think you'll find it worth a read. 

https://medium.com/@TravisHale/her-love-is-complicated-9a7b4afae2c7
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Navy on March 30, 2023, 09:15:10 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on March 28, 2023, 02:03:10 PM
Claire Hale's dad wrote a wonderful retrospective to his daughter and the struggles she overcame - repeatedly - during her time at Trinity.  I think you'll find it worth a read. 

https://medium.com/@TravisHale/her-love-is-complicated-9a7b4afae2c7

Oak pollen is gettin' in my eyes...

Beautiful.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on June 01, 2023, 09:50:12 AM
Riley Zayas amplified a d3ticker.com report that Southwestern is in the market for a new WBB head coach.  Six years of non-winning seasons (.500 the first) was enough, I guess.  Many Southwestern women's team sports are very competitive - soccer, volleyball, tennis have made strides and been in the thick for championships and won a few over the years - there's absolutely no reason a school with their resources should be struggling to even qualify for the end-of-year SCAC championships.   A good hire should be able to get the program back into shape by the time they move to SAA.

Had they made the move a year earlier, they might have been able to land Joe Shotland from Trinity instead of seeing him go to UT-Dallas where he had a pretty decent year one. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on June 04, 2023, 07:41:17 AM
My understanding is that St. Thomas is in the market for a new coach, too. I believe Coach Cross left to take a job at the high school level.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on June 05, 2023, 08:42:09 AM
Quote from: jekelish on June 04, 2023, 07:41:17 AM
My understanding is that St. Thomas is in the market for a new coach, too. I believe Coach Cross left to take a job at the high school level.

Would not be a surprise, given the lack of success the Celts have had (relative to their other programs) since they lost their scholarship holdovers after '19-'20.  At the same time neither her social media or the school's website have been updated to reflect a change. 

This year's team was young - no seniors - so whomever takes over if this is the case should have a more experienced squad to work with next year. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Riley Zayas on June 05, 2023, 10:31:19 AM
I would totally agree. I have heard that UST is making more of a push to further its athletic success in D3, just taking a little while since transitioning from NAIA. Pretty good place to recruit if you're a coach, as the Houston area has lots of talent.

And yes, I have heard the same that UST WBB is open. My understanding is that it has been open for quite some time now.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on June 10, 2023, 11:56:20 AM
FYI: Coach Cross has now been removed from the UST website, just to confirm that job is in fact open.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on June 11, 2023, 09:53:53 AM
Quote from: jekelish on June 10, 2023, 11:56:20 AM
FYI: Coach Cross has now been removed from the UST website, just to confirm that job is in fact open.

Thanks, Jek.

I went back to their website - still no actual mention of the change - and may have to take back what I said about no seniors.   They recognized three women at senior night back in February, all of whom are listed as juniors on the roster.   Each has a year of covid eligibility remaining so could return next season, giving the new coach even more to work with.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on July 18, 2023, 02:03:57 PM
Southwestern announced the hiring of Caitlin Kriesel-Bigler, a native of Austin, Texas (Anderson), who played at Hendrix and has had several short assistant coaching stints, most recently last season at Randolph-Macon.

https://www.southwesternpirates.com/sports/w-baskbl/2022-23/releases/202307172r28dy
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on July 19, 2023, 04:24:22 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on July 18, 2023, 02:03:57 PM
Southwestern announced the hiring of Caitlin Kriesel-Bigler, a native of Austin, Texas (Anderson), who played at Hendrix and has had several short assistant coaching stints, most recently last season at Randolph-Macon.

https://www.southwesternpirates.com/sports/w-baskbl/2022-23/releases/202307172r28dy

I feel so old. I remember watching her play for Hendrix.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedawg on September 13, 2023, 03:26:38 PM
Trinity schedule is out.

And wow did they work hard with that NonConference schedule!

After last year's 0.522 SOS, I think they will be in the 0.550-0.570 range this year.

Great job by them controlling what they can control.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on September 13, 2023, 09:36:11 PM
Quote from: scottiedawg on September 13, 2023, 03:26:38 PM
Trinity schedule is out.

And wow did they work hard with that NonConference schedule!

After last year's 0.522 SOS, I think they will be in the 0.550-0.570 range this year.

Great job by them controlling what they can control.

Trinity(TX)?  Not seeing it ...
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedawg on September 13, 2023, 09:56:06 PM
Huh, I am not either. Maybe they pulled it back.

These were the NonConf:

East Texas Baptist
Willamette
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps
Hardin-Simmons
Ohio Northern
Cal Lutheran
Mary Hardin-Baylor
Puget Sound
Framingham St.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on September 14, 2023, 04:50:01 PM
I think you are right.  I *do* remember seeing a home schedule on IG that's nowhere to be seen today, either. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Riley Zayas on September 15, 2023, 12:41:37 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on September 14, 2023, 04:50:01 PM
I think you are right.  I *do* remember seeing a home schedule on IG that's nowhere to be seen today, either.

I can verify that...saw the schedule a little while after it was posted on the site. There is at least one other well-known D3 program that has done the same thing this offseason. Hopefully it goes back up soon. The positive is that Trinity is likely going to have a really solid SOS despite SCAC play pulling that number down a bit.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on October 05, 2023, 11:19:12 AM
Quote from: scottiedawg on September 13, 2023, 09:56:06 PM
Huh, I am not either. Maybe they pulled it back.

These were the NonConf:

East Texas Baptist
Willamette
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps
Hardin-Simmons
Ohio Northern
Cal Lutheran
Mary Hardin-Baylor
Puget Sound
Framingham St.

The schedule has been reposted (https://trinitytigers.com/sports/womens-basketball/schedule) and the above are still true.   The team travels to Marshall for the first two games, home for the next two, then to Abilene for HSU.  After a couple of weekends of away/home SCAC play the team heads to UPS the weekend before Christmas, then to Las Vegas the following weekend for the D3hoops Classic. 

While there is a 2023-24 roster (https://trinitytigers.com/sports/womens-basketball/roster/2023-24), the incoming class has not [yet] been added to it.   The same is true for the TU men. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on October 11, 2023, 11:24:20 AM
I could have sworn I saw an IG or Xitter post yesterday saying "5 more days" from the men's side of the house, but can't find it today.  Hopefully that's just bad search technique on my part and we'll see rosters Monday. 

Edit:  It was an IG story, and there was another one today saying "4 more days". 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Navy on October 19, 2023, 10:23:30 PM
The TU men's roster has been updated.  The women, not yet.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Navy on October 29, 2023, 06:25:56 PM
Putting down a marker - keep an eye on Jamie Ruede, an incoming Trinity freshman.  Smart kid, coach's daughter, and lit things up from 3' beyond the high school arc her senior year. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on November 05, 2023, 11:41:38 AM
Quote from: D3Navy on October 19, 2023, 10:23:30 PM
The TU men's roster has been updated.  The women, not yet.

Found it interesting that, now that the WBKB roster has been posted, only two freshmen and one sophomore transfer so they're going into the season with only 14 players. That's a surprisingly small class, to me, especially given how much Coach Hill has to replace from last year. I have no doubts that the squad they've got will still be very good, but I would have imagined they'd bring in more players to offset some of the losses like Milton and Shipley, etc.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Navy on November 05, 2023, 07:31:23 PM
Quote from: jekelish on November 05, 2023, 11:41:38 AM
Quote from: D3Navy on October 19, 2023, 10:23:30 PM
The TU men's roster has been updated.  The women, not yet.

Found it interesting that, now that the WBKB roster has been posted, only two freshmen and one sophomore transfer so they're going into the season with only 14 players. That's a surprisingly small class, to me, especially given how much Coach Hill has to replace from last year. I have no doubts that the squad they've got will still be very good, but I would have imagined they'd bring in more players to offset some of the losses like Milton and Shipley, etc.

Agree.  I'll vouch for Jamie Ruede, however, from just up I-10 from San Antonio.  She's deadly from 3-point land and has been shooting from 3 feet behind the high school arc for some time now.  Looking to see how she fits in.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on November 08, 2023, 12:27:18 PM
Happy first day of SCAC hoops to those who celebrate!

I'm going to be very curious to see Austin College's squad tonight against Lyon, given more than half the roster is comprised of newcomers.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on November 08, 2023, 11:17:42 PM
Austin College was held to 45 points or fewer 10 times last season, and matched that total in the first half of their win tonight. Ended up winning 93-86 over Lyon, though it wasn't really as close as the final score indicates; some bad turnovers in the last couple minutes cut it down from a double-digit game. Matches the highest point total since the Covid season in spring 2021. Lots of new faces making huge impacts, with 38 points coming from freshmen. Add the fact that they got 26 from two sophomores, and that's 64 of their 93 points from some very young players. Solid start to the year.

Lyon has one REALLY good player, Allison Byars, who scored 35 of her team's 86. Just a really solid player who can do a little of everything.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 12, 2023, 10:05:42 AM
New/different faces featured prominently in Trinity's come-from-behind 84-74 victory over UMHB at ETBU.  Sophomore forward Natalie Anderson scored a career-high 27 on 12-of-15, nearly tripling her career high of ten set last season, and first-year guard Jamie Ruede came in off the bench to add 15 (4-for-5 from distance) in 14 minutes.  Trinity trailed the Cru 58-48 after three before surging 36-16 in the final stanza.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 17, 2023, 10:18:31 PM
The same faces that contributed in Trinity's opening win came through again tonight as the Tigers break open a close one with a 30-16 run in the final stanza to ease past Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 82-62.  Jamie Ruede led all scorers off the bench with 23 in 20 minutes, mostly from deep (7-10), and current SCAC PoTW Natalie Anderson added 18.  Led by Ruede, the Tiger bench outscored their counterparts 46-21. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 02, 2023, 10:17:44 PM
In what could be a preview of the SCAC championship (though Colorado College will probably have something to say about that), TLU led for the first 3 1/2 quarters, mostly by double digits, and were up 17 with nine minutes left in the fourth before Trinity stormed back to lead with four minutes left.   The teams went back and forth the rest of the way - TLU making three trips to the line in the last two minutes, but missed three of the six FTs, critically one of two with 3.5 seconds remaining resulting in a 70-68 lead.  Anderson inbounded to Robbins and ran immediately to the basket where Robbins found her for a layup that bounced in as time expired.   Trinity scored the first eleven points in OT and TLU never really threatened again as the Tigers improved to 6-1 with an 86-76 win.

Sophomore Natalie Anderson continued her hot start to the season with 27 points and 12 rebounds, Maggie Robbins added 15 and 8, and Jamie Rudie's 11 included two big threes in the fourth quarter comeback.

Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Navy on December 03, 2023, 10:45:20 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on December 02, 2023, 10:17:44 PM
In what could be a preview of the SCAC championship (though Colorado College will probably have something to say about that), TLU led for the first 3 1/2 quarters, mostly by double digits, and were up 17 with nine minutes left in the fourth before Trinity stormed back to lead with four minutes left.   The teams went back and forth the rest of the way - TLU making three trips to the line in the last two minutes, but missed three of the six FTs, critically one of two with 3.5 seconds remaining resulting in a 70-68 lead.  Anderson inbounded to Robbins and ran immediately to the basket where Robbins found her for a layup that bounced in as time expired.   Trinity scored the first eleven points in OT and TLU never really threatened again as the Tigers improved to 6-1 with an 86-76 win.

Sophomore Natalie Anderson continued her hot start to the season with 27 points and 12 rebounds, Maggie Robbins added 15 and 8, and Jamie Rudie's 11 included two big threes in the fourth quarter comeback.



Great recap, Ron.  Reliance on the 3-pointers is risky.  Trinity was 1-12 in the first half and 7-15 in the 2nd.  The Trinity men weirdly had the same situation in the game immediately preceding in the same gym.  Maybe something to do with the court or hoops at TLU that initially throws off visiting team shooters?  Not a bad home court advantage to have! 

Still great to see the resilience from both teams!
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 20, 2024, 10:00:27 AM
And .. we're back.  Thank you to Pat and the D3 team for not giving up on the boards.

Since our last episode ... things have changed dramatically for Trinity.  Natalie Anderson suffered what apparently was a season-ending injury to her MCL in a mid-December game against Dallas, after which the team struggled while it tried to replace her significant contributions on both ends.  The team added a transfer in early January, 6'2" F Natalie Greenwood, but has very unusually seen the departure of several women from the team, leaving the Tigers with only 12 players and a very short bench.  After an early-season loss at Colorado College, the women have pushed through tough circumstances to win the rest of their SCAC games to secure the top seed for this weekend's conference tournament.

Trinity has seen good contributions from junior Josie Napoli (16.1 ppg, 39.4% from beyond the arc), FY Jamie Ruede (13.2 ppg/41.1% 3FG) and more recently, sophomore Kylie Minter (10.5 ppg/39.8% 3FG).  The team's sole senior, Maggie Robbins continues to be a stabilizing presence guiding the offense and with 4.7 boards per game is the leader in that category among active players, though the loss of Anderson's nearly 10 has resulted in the team being outrebounded by over five per game.  The usual "forty minutes of hell" defense has been replaced with an opportunistic pressure due to the short bench, though the team still holds a significant turnover advantage.

The non-conference losses resulting from Anderson's absence mean that there will be no Pool C bid for anyone in the conference this year.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 21, 2024, 08:14:51 AM
If you haven't already had a listen to yesterday's Hoopsville, Dave McHugh had a excellent interview with Trinity coach Cameron Hill (https://youtu.be/Lum4u95fjiA?t=4374), who discusses the current season with great candor.  It's well worth your time.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: jekelish on February 21, 2024, 04:12:16 PM
Looking forward to this weekend's tournaments! I'll be heading to Shreveport for the first time to watch in person, excited for my first trip to Louisiana. Hoping for a bunch of good games!
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 22, 2024, 11:54:35 AM
Local TV station KSAT (which of the majors does the best job covering local non-UTSA sports) ran a story on Jamie Ruede's record-setting 3FG performance (https://www.ksat.com/sports/2024/02/22/trinity-teammates-not-surprised-after-freshman-ruede-breaks-three-point-shooting-record/).  You'll have to sit through part of an ad but can skip shortly after it starts. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 25, 2024, 06:07:08 PM
And Jamie Ruede's 18 leads Trinity over Colorado College in the SCAC championships, 63-57.  The audio was cut out but I think she was named the championships MVP.   Zoe Tomlinson did everything she could for CC, leading all players with 21 and 22. 

The bracketologists have UMHB earning a Pool C, and Millsaps can bus to UMHB (but not HSU or Trinity), so it's likely Trinity heads to Belton to play one of the ASC teams (my guess would be UMHB).  Millsaps should be the 4th seed, HSU 1st, Trinity and UMHB are close for 2nd/3rd. 

Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 27, 2024, 08:26:16 AM
The NCAA did a very un-NCAA thing in opting to put Millsaps on a plane, which resulted in the team that should host, Hardin-Simmons, actually hosting.  What a concept; maybe they did learn something as a result of their decision last year to create a third sectional in Massachusetts (https://d3hoops.com/notables/2023/03/sectional-hosts-announced) and the resulting blowback. 

The last time Trinity visited Abilene in the playoffs was just two years ago, where they upset not only the homestanding Cowgirls but then #4-ranked Whitman on their way to an Elite 8 appearance.  The road this year will be tougher as possible second-round opponent HSU defeated Trinity earlier this season when they were still at full strength.  With only 11 available players and the team's youth, any win in the post-season would have to be considered an upset.  If they can grind out UMHB like they did Colorado College and hit their threes, they'll have a chance. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on February 27, 2024, 11:50:54 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 27, 2024, 08:26:16 AMThe NCAA did a very un-NCAA thing in opting to put Millsaps on a plane, which resulted in the team that should host, Hardin-Simmons, actually hosting.  What a concept; maybe they did learn something as a result of their decision last year to create a third sectional in Massachusetts (https://d3hoops.com/notables/2023/03/sectional-hosts-announced) and the resulting blowback. 

The last time Trinity visited Abilene in the playoffs was just two years ago, where they upset not only the homestanding Cowgirls but then #4-ranked Whitman on their way to an Elite 8 appearance.  The road this year will be tougher as possible second-round opponent HSU defeated Trinity earlier this season when they were still at full strength.  With only 11 available players and the team's youth, any win in the post-season would have to be considered an upset.  If they can grind out UMHB like they did Colorado College and hit their threes, they'll have a chance. 
Don't overlook Oxy.  A very unusual team.  A big center and the fifth highest scorer in the NCAA this year. But, first things first for both teams.  I know Trinity has a great first year scorer.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 27, 2024, 11:52:51 AM
They play HSU in the first round.  I'm not looking past UMHB.  :D
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Navy on March 02, 2024, 10:41:56 AM
Superb effort by Trinity last night.  Down 13 six minutes into the third quarter, the Tigers pulled it out.

UMHB took 22 more shots in the game, but Trinity made up for it with over 50% accuracy overall and from beyond the arc.

Should be a great game tonight against host Hardin Simmons.
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 04, 2024, 08:34:15 AM
Possibly the most challenging season in recent Trinity history came to an end after a huge second quarter by HSU (27-8) Saturday night that the team simply couldn't recover from.  The Cowgirls did a good job of chasing Trinity off the three-point line (to wit:  Jamie Ruede only attempted four threes), HSU drew plenty of shooting fouls all night, and the Paris/Parris duo did what they do.  Robbins and Ruede fouled out by game's end, Minter and Timmons ended up with four, and the lack of bench depth and inside presence (Ruede's nine rebounds was as many as the next two players combined) against a team as good as HSU finally took a toll.  The Cowgirls nearly doubled up the Tigers on the boards, 46-27.  There is no shame in losing on the road to a team which, in the words of their own press release yesterday, "has a quartet of Cowgirl seniors who have started nearly every game in their careers."

So, where does Trinity go from here?  It's a young team, with only Maggie Robbins graduating.  The other players who saw significant time yesterday are two juniors (Napoli and Timmons), two sophomores (Minter and King) and a first year (Ruede).  Assuming she takes advantage of the opportunity for a medical redshirt, Natalie Anderson will return as a sophomore.  That's a pretty good core, but the team simply must have a better recruiting effort next year, and hopefully some of the players who struggled to contribute this year can have successful off seasons where the game will come to them as it did for Anderson before her injury.  And you have to hope there are no lingering after-effects from that injury; it's never easy to come back after losing a season to one.   The combination of a successful return by Anderson and more practice time in the gym for the "other" Natalie (6'2" soph Greenwood) should give the team the inside presence it lacked this season.   

Robbins' steady presence and heady play will be missed on both sides of the floor.  She never had gaudy stats, but there was no doubt in my mind Maggie was the engine that drove the team the last few seasons. 
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedawg on March 04, 2024, 09:07:11 AM
While a lot can and will change every offseason, Trinity indeed should be among the stronger teams in the region next year.

TEAMPOINTS SCORED BY NON-SR/GR %
TX Lutheran87.79%
Trinity (Texas)87.30%
Colorado Col81.92%
Cal Lutheran81.31%
Puget Sound81.05%
UC Santa Cruz71.31%
Whittier69.09%
UT Dallas62.12%
Whitman60.79%
Occidental60.33%
Mary Hardin-Baylor55.04%
Willamette45.45%
La Verne42.13%
Hardin-Simmons38.68%
Pacific32.93%
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Navy on March 04, 2024, 07:06:28 PM
Great stat, scottie.  I imagine TLU and TU are among the top nationally as well.

Thanks!
Title: Re: WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Riley Zayas on March 04, 2024, 08:40:40 PM
With TLU and Trinity bringing back significant amounts of talent, along with bringing in a McMurry program on the rise, the SCAC has a real chance to be a two-bid league for the first time in a few years next season. I think McMurry coming in will elevate the league on the women's side a good amount. And Colorado College is always a factor.