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#16
Multi-Regional Topics / Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament
February 27, 2023, 03:21:47 PM
I missed something that someone probably knows... where is Maryville (Tn) bid... FAQ says USAC gets auto bid???
#17
If Calvin had a slight chance of getting a bid after Saturday results, forget it as Sunday results came in.. virtually every regional ranked team that played - lost....  Way too many teams out there now for MIAA to get second bid...Sorry...
#18
Quote from: GU1999 on February 15, 2023, 03:01:01 PM
Well... so much for my predictions. 

Good news is that the SLIAC has posted a 6 team playoff format, so GU, Spalding and EU all make it, seeding is yet to be determined.


Wednesday, February 22 - At Higher Seed   
Game 1: #3 vs. #6, 7 p.m.   
Game 2:  #4 vs. #5, 7 p.m.   
   
Friday, February 24 - At Highest Seed   
Game 3: #2 vs. Second Lowest Seed, 5:30 p.m.   
Game 4: #1 vs. Lower Seed, 7:30 p.m.   

Saturday, February 25 - At Highest Seed
Game 5: Winner of Game 3 vs. Winner of Game 4, 7 p.m.

Take me out behind the barn and shoot me.... ;D ;D ;D... large amount of time spent working on 4 team playoff scenarios.... typical hopefan flop..
#19
Quote from: GU1999 on February 13, 2023, 05:13:18 PM
My Projection for the Conference Tournament:

#1 PRIN 11-3
#2 WEBSTER 10-4
#3 FONTBONNE 9-5
#4 GU 8-6*
#5 SPALDING 7-7**
#6 EU 7-7

*Although beating FU on the road will be a huge undertaking, I think that the Panthers could very well do it. GU has been playing some of the conferences best basketball since the last Fontbonne game (which was a tight one resulting in a 3 FU win).  Going 6-2 since, GU has held opponents to 54% shooting (this is LOW for a GU team) and they have also really cleaned up their turnovers.  GU is averaging 10.5+ t/o margin in the last 8 and has been rebounding neutral in 5 of 8.  IN their last meeting FU beat GU by 23 on the boards and was only -6 in turnovers in a 3 point game.   

**Spalding wins tiebreak with EU winning both match-ups

I played with Scenarios last night after Eureka beat Prin... this result hurt playoff chances for Greenville ( and Spalding), but does not yet knock them out. With Fontbonne, Webster and Eureka now at 8 wins, Greenville and/or Spalding need 2 wins AND 2 losses by Webster  or Fontbonne or a loss by Eureka to have a chance to move into a tie for 4th... then tiebreakers would decide

Scoreboard watching?  Webster has BC and Westmin at home...
                                   Font is at Westmin, and and Greenville at home
                                   Eureka is at Spalding... a Spalding win is critical.. a Eureka win puts them in no matter what

Most likely scenario tonight
Prin already locked
Webster beats BC and locks
Font wins at Westmin and locks
Greenville is at Spalding... some one wins and still is alive, loser is out.

Interesting... if Spalding beats Greenville tonite... they play Eureka on Saturday....If they were then to beat Eureka, they would finish tied with Eureka, and would win the tiebreaker with two wins over EC... Spalding gets the 4th spot

If Greenville beats Spalding tonight, they would need to beat Fontbonne on Saturday and have Spalding beat Eureka.... GU and EC would then finish tied for 4th spot... that tiebreaker can't be established at this point.



#20
What a crazy turn of events in the SLIAC...

Eureka   3-0 in last 3
Spalding   4-1 in last 5
Greenville 4-1 in last 5

Webster  0-4  in last 4

No game a given... Webster no longer a playoff lock, Eureka, Spalding, Greenville now all in the mix for 3rd and 4th.... Principia locked, Fontbonne needs another win to be safe....

#21
Quote from: GU1999 on February 07, 2023, 10:27:56 AM
GU gets a BIG commitment.  Carter Clark, 7'1", is the son of former SLIAC all conference GU player Rob Clark.  He runs really well for a big and can also shoot it a little bit.  Coach Barber's boys seem to be executing a slightly more conservative version of the "GU system" these days.  Carter could thrive in that version. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F34gEdSo1rc
Oh my goodness.  Sweet tape!!!!   I know they always only show the good stuff.... but wow......
#22
Quote from: deiscanton on February 05, 2023, 07:06:10 PM
Quote from: hopefan on February 04, 2023, 10:40:39 AM
Wash U is a consistent factor on the national level in women's D3hoops

Webster has pretty much dominated Women's basketball at the SLiAC level for the past half dozen years

These two schools are within 2 miles of each other...  the men's teams meet each year

Question with a smirk on my face....WHY DON'T THE LADIES PLAY EACH OTHER?

Is Webster nervous they may get beat badly.... or is Wash U nervous of an upset by the lightly regarded SLIAC  (as has occurred in Men's hoops)?

History of the Wash U vs Webster women's basketball series-- (BTW, Wash U and Webster are about 5 miles down Big Bend Blvd on Google maps-- the NCAA mileage calculator has the two schools 7 miles apart.    Fontbonne and Wash U are much closer, with the Fontbonne campus located at the corner of Wydown and Big Bend Blvds, directly across the street from the Wash U campus.)

Back when Wash U was coached by Nancy Fahey, the two teams did play each other on a regular/semi-regular basis.  The series started in the 1987-88 year and ended in the 2015-16 season.   During that time, Wash U and Webster played each other 17 times, with Wash U winning 16 of those 17 games-- most of them by huge margins.  The last time the Gorloks and the Bears played each other was in the 2015-16 season with Wash U winning that one by a score of 90-39.  The coach of the Gorloks at that time was the current head coach of the Gorloks, Jordan Olufson.

Webster's only win vs Wash U came in the 2004-05 season when the Gorloks defeated the Bears in the regular season by a score of 78-59.   However, Wash U got its revenge later that year when the two teams met in the first round of the NCAA DIII tournament in the last year that the tournament had a field of 50.  On March 2, 2005, Wash U won in the NCAA first round game vs Webster by a score of 62-35 before getting eliminated by Millikin in the second round a few days later.

BTW, that Webster win in 2004-05 is not the most famous win by a SLIAC team over the Wash U women's basketball team.   In the 2000-01 season, the Fontbonne Griffins ended Wash U's 81 game winning streak when the Griffins defeated Wash U at Mabee Gym by a score of 79-68.  The Wash U vs Fontbonne series is the most played series by a SLiAC women's basketball team vs Wash U to date with over 40 games played and Fontbonne only defeating Wash U 4 times in the history of the Griffins women's basketball program.

PS-- Greenville, a SLIAC team, defeated the Wash U women this season by a score of 79-70.  This season was the first time since 1982-83 (a/k/a the Gaye Kinnett era) that the Greenville Panthers defeated Wash U in a women's basketball game, and only the 6th time in the history of the Greenville Panthers women's basketball team overall.   Greenville won their first five meetings vs Wash U back when Wash U was coached by Gaye Kinnett, with two of those five wins occurring in the 1982-83 season.

While I appreciate the history and geography, it doesn't address the question as to why Webster and Wash U don't play each other... note, while you show the history with Wash U swamping Webster, those games ended just before the Webster program improved dramatically.   Of course I don't expect you to have an answer, but it's out there as an interesting question... perhaps our 1-2 St. Louis punch (Yjack and WuPiffff) could pose the question to their contacts....
#23
Region 8 women's basketball / Re: SLIAC
February 06, 2023, 12:11:22 PM
Quote from: deiscanton on February 06, 2023, 04:29:32 AM
Quote from: hopefan on February 04, 2023, 10:38:58 AM
Webster has pretty much dominated Women's basketball at the SLiAC level for the past half dozen years

Wash U is a consistent factor on the national level in women's D3hoops

These two schools are within 2 miles of each other...  the men's teams meet each year

Question with a smirk on my face....WHY DON'T THEY PLAY EACH OTHER?

Is Webster nervous they may get beat badly.... or is Wash U nervous of an upset by the lightly regarded SLIAC  (as has occurred in Men's hoops)?

On the UAA Basketball women's page, I wrote about the history of Wash U vs Webster in women's hoops.  The two sides met 17 times from the 1987-88 season to the 2015-16 season (Nancy Fahey coached Wash U in all of those games), and Wash U has a 16-1 edge over Webster in those games played.

Webster's only win over Wash U came in the 2004-05 season, when the Gorloks won by a score of 78-59 in the regular season.  However, the two teams later met that season in the first round of the NCAA DIII tournament in the final year that the tournament had a field of 50.  Wash U won that first round NCAA playoff match on March 2, 2005, 62-37, before losing at Millikin in the second round 3 days later on March 5.

In their last meeting back in the 2015-16 season, Wash U prevailed, 90-39.  Jordan Olufson coached the Gorloks in their meetings vs the Bears from 2011 on.

Recently, however, the SLIAC has proven that the league didn't need Webster to defeat Wash U.   In the Randi Henderson era, SLIAC teams have already beaten Wash U twice-- Westminster (MO) won 70-68 in Fulton, MO back in the 2018-19 season, and Greenville defeated Wash U this season, 79-70, at the Wash U Field House.

BTW, Wash U and Webster are actually 5 miles apart on Big Bend Blvd. (7 miles, if you use the NCAA mileage calculator).   Fontbonne and Wash U, on the other hand, are across the street from each other on Wydown Blvd. (at the corner of Wydown and Big Bend Blvds.) (So, why does the NCAA mileage calculator have Fontbonne and Wash U at 8 miles apart?)



While I appreciate the history and geography, it doesn't address the question as to why Webster and Wash U don't play each other... note, while you show the history with Wash U swamping Webster, those games ended just before the Webster program improved dramatically.   Of course I don't expect you to have an answer, but it's out there as an interesting question... perhaps our 1-2 St. Louis punch (Yjack and WuPiffff) could pose the question to their contacts....
#24
Wash U is a consistent factor on the national level in women's D3hoops

Webster has pretty much dominated Women's basketball at the SLiAC level for the past half dozen years

These two schools are within 2 miles of each other...  the men's teams meet each year

Question with a smirk on my face....WHY DON'T THE LADIES PLAY EACH OTHER?

Is Webster nervous they may get beat badly.... or is Wash U nervous of an upset by the lightly regarded SLIAC  (as has occurred in Men's hoops)?
#25
Region 8 women's basketball / Re: SLIAC
February 04, 2023, 10:38:58 AM
Webster has pretty much dominated Women's basketball at the SLiAC level for the past half dozen years

Wash U is a consistent factor on the national level in women's D3hoops

These two schools are within 2 miles of each other...  the men's teams meet each year

Question with a smirk on my face....WHY DON'T THEY PLAY EACH OTHER?

Is Webster nervous they may get beat badly.... or is Wash U nervous of an upset by the lightly regarded SLIAC  (as has occurred in Men's hoops)?

#26
Region 3 men's basketball / Re: Liberty League
February 04, 2023, 10:20:16 AM
Quote from: Caz Bombers on February 03, 2023, 11:33:41 PM
4-way tie for 3rd after tonight and they're all 3 games clear of Clarkson on the outside looking in with 5 games to go. I won't even begin looking at tiebreakers until after the RIT at Ithaca game Tuesday night - when the whole league will have exactly 4 games remaining.

Ultimately I'm fairly certain we have our six LL tournament teams already, it's just a question of seeding. Union was mathematically eliminated tonight and Bard now needs to run the table over its last 5 and also get quite a bit of outside help.

Thank goodness it's a 6 team conference tourney.. if it were only 4, devastating for 2 left out....  will be fun to follow next 2 weeks
#27
Quote from: WUPHF on February 02, 2023, 11:16:04 AM
Quote from: hopefan on February 02, 2023, 10:07:06 AM
Quote from: WUPHF on February 01, 2023, 10:33:14 AM

The way those teams are playing and the fact that there is only one non-contender loss... I do not see more than 1-2 more losses against non-contenders.


Now THAT was a funny joke...


Time will tell.

time already told.. Fontbonne and Webster both lost last night to non-contenders.
#28
Quote from: WUPHF on February 01, 2023, 10:33:14 AM

The way those teams are playing and the fact that there is only one non-contender loss... I do not see more than 1-2 more losses against non-contenders.


Now THAT was a funny joke...
#29
Nope... not the year for hopefan standings...
#30
Quote from: WUPHF on February 01, 2023, 09:10:58 PM
And Spalding is going to beat Fontbonne by double digits, lol.

Webster also goes down.

Principia did not play otherwise they probably would have lost.
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Prin played Tuesday...and won...