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Title: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Spence on March 17, 2013, 06:51:19 PM
In this thread, we hopefully discuss what we think about who the best teams in the Mideast region are, and rank. I guess I should be clear that we're not necessarily talking about the official regional rankings here (which one consider regional games), though certainly those regional rankings would be an appropriate topic for discussion.

I guess I'll start with a top 10 just to kick it off. Boy, a lot of teams with really good starts.

1. Marietta -- very close between the top 3 or 4, but close isn't enough to knock down a 2-time defending champ yet, especially one that is undefeated in the region and played a very strong schedule down south
2. Manchester -- 1 win in 3 games that could have gone either way on a freezing weekend in Tiffin, undefeated otherwise
3. Heidelberg -- winning 2 of 3 vs. Manchester at home not enough to overcome a couple of losses to not so great teams
4. Washington & Jefferson -- hard to tell much, but undefeated and coming off a big year
5. Mount Union -- rainout cut them a break on their FL schedule, good record, but not many signature wins
6. Otterbein -- even though they haven't proven much yet, mainly on talent
7. Wooster -- No idea what to do with them, but beating Wheaton at least says something
8. La Roche
9. Baldwin-Wallace
10. DePauw
Title: Re: Rank the region
Post by: middhoops on March 17, 2013, 07:00:47 PM
Oops, my mistake.  I saw a board labeled "Rank the Region" and mistook it for "rank the regions".  Looked like an opportunity to jump on the NESCAC (northeast) bandwagon.  As Gilda Radner would have said, "Oh, never mind."
Title: Re: Rank the region
Post by: Spence on March 17, 2013, 07:08:21 PM
Quote from: middhoops on March 17, 2013, 07:00:47 PM
Oops, my mistake.  I saw a board labeled "Rank the Region" and mistook it for "rank the regions".  Looked like an opportunity to jump on the NESCAC (northeast) bandwagon.  As Gilda Radner would have said, "Oh, never mind."

Also not the right sport. :)
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 18, 2013, 12:34:25 PM
Spence I cannot disagree with your assessment. I had hoped to put OWU in there but after there spring trip I cannot. I think as the season goes on BW may drop off this list. I saw one game of theirs in Florida. They have some impressive players but I do not think they are quite there yet. There short stop is quite good.

They had trouble hitting OWU pitching, they only had 5 hits. As the season goes on they may heat up and it could have been just one game.

In response to a post you made in another thread. It is not just one OWU pitcher that needs to cut down on the walks. After the spring trip I would say all of them have to.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 18, 2013, 02:13:28 PM
Ott could move up just by default this week. Their FL schedule is the weakest I've seen. 5 teams with losing records last yr, two of which won 8 and 11 games, respectively. I'd be shocked if they go anything worse than 1 loss against that slate.  That's the problem with the late spring break I guess.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Spence on March 18, 2013, 02:18:40 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on March 18, 2013, 02:13:28 PM
Ott could move up just by default this week. Their FL schedule is the weakest I've seen. 5 teams with losing records last yr, two of which won 8 and 11 games, respectively. I'd be shocked if they go anything worse than 1 loss against that slate.  That's the problem with the late spring break I guess.

They still could be playing teams that they're not down there. Otterbein may get a lot of wins early, but until they beat someone good they're going to have a tough time moving above where they are unless some other teams significantly falter.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 18, 2013, 02:57:03 PM
Quote from: Spence on March 18, 2013, 02:18:40 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on March 18, 2013, 02:13:28 PM
Ott could move up just by default this week. Their FL schedule is the weakest I've seen. 5 teams with losing records last yr, two of which won 8 and 11 games, respectively. I'd be shocked if they go anything worse than 1 loss against that slate.  That's the problem with the late spring break I guess.

They still could be playing teams that they're not down there. Otterbein may get a lot of wins early, but until they beat someone good they're going to have a tough time moving above where they are unless some other teams significantly falter.

This is pretty much how I feel about Ott, BW and Mount right now.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Spence on March 24, 2013, 01:58:21 AM
Well, I assume baseball is done for a few days with the weather coming in.

Here's what I've got.
1. Marietta -- a home split is never satisfying, but won 2 of 3 on the weekend against very good opponents
2. Manchester -- scoring tons of runs and pitching well enough to keep winning 

OK those two were easy...the rest...less so.
3. Case Western Reserve -- doubleheader sweep in Tiffin continues trend of solid pitching started in the UAA round robin.
4. Wittenberg -- still have questions, but DH sweep of Mount Union after 2 weeks on the shelf is impressive
5. Adrian -- getting it together after a rough start. Allowed Berg just one run in a staff-pitched game.
6. Heidelberg -- definitely been better weeks for the Berg. 10 runs scored in last 6 games. Quality wins earlier in year keep them from falling further.
7. Otterbein -- 13-1, but still hard to know what they are considering very weak schedule. Will soar if they perform up north.
8. La Roche -- home win over B-W keeps them in conversation
9. B-W -- road loss to La Roche not enough to take them out of conversation! :)
10. I have no idea. Put Oberlin, Kenyon, Wooster, John Carroll, Mount Union, Defiance, Washington & Jefferson, Thiel and Thomas More in a hat and pick one.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: OshDude on March 24, 2013, 02:20:23 AM
Weird that we agree, Spence. As of today I think the top three are easy. All are in my initial top 25 for this week.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: motorman on March 24, 2013, 06:59:24 AM
Season that started with such promise in Florida for Heidelberg has taken a sour turn in the cold north. Not only have the bats been frigid up here as Spence noted with only 10 runs scored in 6 games, but the pitching staff has taken a couple of severe blows. Chris Thomas suffered a broken hand in the first game vs Manchester and is out indefinitely. Ethan Holt has had an arm issue which has him shut down, hopefully only for the short term.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Spence on March 24, 2013, 11:26:42 AM
Quote from: motorman on March 24, 2013, 06:59:24 AM
Season that started with such promise in Florida for Heidelberg has taken a sour turn in the cold north. Not only have the bats been frigid up here as Spence noted with only 10 runs scored in 6 games, but the pitching staff has taken a couple of severe blows. Chris Thomas suffered a broken hand in the first game vs Manchester and is out indefinitely. Ethan Holt has had an arm issue which has him shut down, hopefully only for the short term.

Oh wow. I was just looking at their stats and thinking those two would probably be their weekend starters. Need some other guys to step it up.

How did the broken hand happen? I didn't think he came out of the game early against them.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Spence on March 24, 2013, 11:29:24 AM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on March 24, 2013, 02:20:23 AM
Weird that we agree, Spence. As of today I think the top three are easy. All are in my initial top 25 for this week.

I don't think it is that weird...we seem to have similar ranking philosophies.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: motorman on March 24, 2013, 01:12:58 PM
Quote from: Spence on March 24, 2013, 11:26:42 AM
Quote from: motorman on March 24, 2013, 06:59:24 AM
Season that started with such promise in Florida for Heidelberg has taken a sour turn in the cold north. Not only have the bats been frigid up here as Spence noted with only 10 runs scored in 6 games, but the pitching staff has taken a couple of severe blows. Chris Thomas suffered a broken hand in the first game vs Manchester and is out indefinitely. Ethan Holt has had an arm issue which has him shut down, hopefully only for the short term.

Oh wow. I was just looking at their stats and thinking those two would probably be their weekend starters. Need some other guys to step it up.

How did the broken hand happen? I didn't think he came out of the game early against them.
It happened on the hit with 1 out in the 9th vs Manchester. Hard 1 hopper that was at his right hip, happened to have his pitching hand right there. He came out after that play. They were hoping it was just a bruise but swelling didn't go down much all week.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Spence on March 24, 2013, 01:23:19 PM
Quote from: motorman on March 24, 2013, 01:12:58 PM
Quote from: Spence on March 24, 2013, 11:26:42 AM
Quote from: motorman on March 24, 2013, 06:59:24 AM
Season that started with such promise in Florida for Heidelberg has taken a sour turn in the cold north. Not only have the bats been frigid up here as Spence noted with only 10 runs scored in 6 games, but the pitching staff has taken a couple of severe blows. Chris Thomas suffered a broken hand in the first game vs Manchester and is out indefinitely. Ethan Holt has had an arm issue which has him shut down, hopefully only for the short term.

Oh wow. I was just looking at their stats and thinking those two would probably be their weekend starters. Need some other guys to step it up.

How did the broken hand happen? I didn't think he came out of the game early against them.
It happened on the hit with 1 out in the 9th vs Manchester. Hard 1 hopper that was at his right hip, happened to have his pitching hand right there. He came out after that play. They were hoping it was just a bruise but swelling didn't go down much all week.

:/ not good. So is he done for the year then? That's usually a couple of month injury. Would he quality for a medical waiver?

Apparently I was wrong about the weather wiping everything out. Heidelberg is playing, as I'm sure motorman knows.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: motorman on March 24, 2013, 07:32:56 PM
Quote from: Spence on March 24, 2013, 01:23:19 PM
Quote from: motorman on March 24, 2013, 01:12:58 PM
Quote from: Spence on March 24, 2013, 11:26:42 AM
Quote from: motorman on March 24, 2013, 06:59:24 AM
Season that started with such promise in Florida for Heidelberg has taken a sour turn in the cold north. Not only have the bats been frigid up here as Spence noted with only 10 runs scored in 6 games, but the pitching staff has taken a couple of severe blows. Chris Thomas suffered a broken hand in the first game vs Manchester and is out indefinitely. Ethan Holt has had an arm issue which has him shut down, hopefully only for the short term.

Oh wow. I was just looking at their stats and thinking those two would probably be their weekend starters. Need some other guys to step it up.

How did the broken hand happen? I didn't think he came out of the game early against them.
It happened on the hit with 1 out in the 9th vs Manchester. Hard 1 hopper that was at his right hip, happened to have his pitching hand right there. He came out after that play. They were hoping it was just a bruise but swelling didn't go down much all week.

:/ not good. So is he done for the year then? That's usually a couple of month injury. Would he quality for a medical waiver?

Apparently I was wrong about the weather wiping everything out. Heidelberg is playing, as I'm sure motorman knows.

Yes, Berg managed to salvage the last game vs Case with 3 runs in bottom of 9th to win 5-4. Not sure yet about the prognosis for Thomas. He would qualify for the medical waiver, but not sure about the advisability of paying another $25,000 to play another year of baseball.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Spence on March 24, 2013, 08:14:20 PM
Quote from: motorman on March 24, 2013, 07:32:56 PM

Yes, Berg managed to salvage the last game vs Case with 3 runs in bottom of 9th to win 5-4. Not sure yet about the prognosis for Thomas. He would qualify for the medical waiver, but not sure about the advisability of paying another $25,000 to play another year of baseball.

You make a good point there haha. Jeez I think that was about my total debt bill.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 25, 2013, 11:14:58 AM
If he does get a waiver would he be able to play at a D1 if he would graduate and choose a grad school.

I know it is off the board for Grad school and D3.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Spence on March 25, 2013, 12:45:51 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 25, 2013, 11:14:58 AM
If he does get a waiver would he be able to play at a D1 if he would graduate and choose a grad school.

I know it is off the board for Grad school and D3.

Interesting question. I would guess the grad school team would have to put the waiver through.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 25, 2013, 01:36:30 PM
I know a D3 player that did this. He had TJ surgery his senior year. He did not play. that gave him one more year of Baseball and he is attending Grad school at t D1 and is on the team. I am not sure how much pitching he is getting, but it is another year in Baseball.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Spence on April 01, 2013, 03:17:11 AM
Doing another ranking right now seems pointless. It's Marietta 1, Manchester 2 and after that you've got like 15 schools that haven't really distinguished themselves from each other.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: EttaFan1 on April 01, 2013, 08:15:22 AM
Things are going to get interesting this week.  There is a huge matchup on Tuesday between Mount Union and Marietta.  I think we will learn more about both of those teams this week. 

Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Dr. Acula on April 01, 2013, 10:13:03 AM
Quote from: EttaFan1 on April 01, 2013, 08:15:22 AM
Things are going to get interesting this week.  There is a huge matchup on Tuesday between Mount Union and Marietta.  I think we will learn more about both of those teams this week.

With the way Etta is hitting I'd be fine with a split.  It's not often you wish for this, but I'd rather have it be the 1-2 starters in this one.  I like Mount's chances better against Byers/Mulvey if we have Carlino/Murzynski going.  I'm worried that Etta's bats are too far ahead of Mount's right now to get into a high scoring DH tomorrow and have it turn out well.  If Pryor throws well (as he has certain starts) they have a good chance.  They just can't afford to do like ONU and fall down big early.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Spence on April 01, 2013, 03:55:21 PM
You may get your wish with Mulvey. He only threw like 59 pitches Saturday. Probably not starting, but would be surprised if he doesn't pitch at some point in the day.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Dr. Acula on April 01, 2013, 04:48:41 PM
Quote from: Spence on April 01, 2013, 03:55:21 PM
You may get your wish with Mulvey. He only threw like 59 pitches Saturday. Probably not starting, but would be surprised if he doesn't pitch at some point in the day.

Problem is I'm not getting the more important half of the wish which is Carlino/Murzynski.  Haha. 
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Spence on April 01, 2013, 05:08:59 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on April 01, 2013, 04:48:41 PM
Quote from: Spence on April 01, 2013, 03:55:21 PM
You may get your wish with Mulvey. He only threw like 59 pitches Saturday. Probably not starting, but would be surprised if he doesn't pitch at some point in the day.

Problem is I'm not getting the more important half of the wish which is Carlino/Murzynski.  Haha.

Important to you maybe! I'm liking having Mulvey available! It'll be interesting to see what Brewer goes with to start.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: jos s on April 02, 2013, 08:02:10 AM
Quote from: Spence on April 01, 2013, 03:17:11 AM
Doing another ranking right now seems pointless. It's Marietta 1, Manchester 2 and after that you've got like 15 schools that haven't really distinguished themselves from each other.

Case Western has to be strongly looked at for the #3 spot in the region based on both record, and strength of sced.  Case has only played 1 team thie season with a losing record.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: EttaFan1 on April 02, 2013, 08:03:16 AM
With the games pushed to Wednesday, look for Mulvey to start the 9.  Only question is will Byers start the first one on three days rest?

The extra day in between didn't hurt the pioneers!

And I think Case is a strong #3 in the group right now.  Their three game series with Marietta in May could prove to be very interesting!
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Spence on April 02, 2013, 12:00:52 PM
Quote from: EttaFan1 on April 02, 2013, 08:03:16 AM
With the games pushed to Wednesday, look for Mulvey to start the 9.  Only question is will Byers start the first one on three days rest?

The extra day in between didn't hurt the pioneers!

And I think Case is a strong #3 in the group right now.  Their three game series with Marietta in May could prove to be very interesting!

I can't pick between Case, Wittenberg, LaRoche, Otterbein, Heidelberg, etc. They've all either got really good records against some suspect schedules, or quite a few losses against good schedules.

I think so far only Marietta and Manchester would be Pool C's and Case in the conversation in Pool B/C. And that's pretty much what matters. Maybe I should change this to "sizing up" the region and invite more discussion on conference races and such in addition to Pool B and C...because probably the #8 team in the region isn't getting a postseason bid without a conference championship.

Mulvey certainly could start now. If he does, I imagine he'll see a few relief stints before the trip to Heidelberg. Byers would be on his 4th day...you count the day you pitch.

Of course with the weather as it's been, it's hard to count on much!
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 02, 2013, 12:31:01 PM
Quote from: Spence on April 02, 2013, 12:00:52 PM
Quote from: EttaFan1 on April 02, 2013, 08:03:16 AM
With the games pushed to Wednesday, look for Mulvey to start the 9.  Only question is will Byers start the first one on three days rest?

The extra day in between didn't hurt the pioneers!

And I think Case is a strong #3 in the group right now.  Their three game series with Marietta in May could prove to be very interesting!

I can't pick between Case, Wittenberg, LaRoche, Otterbein, Heidelberg, etc. They've all either got really good records against some suspect schedules, or quite a few losses against good schedules.

I think so far only Marietta and Manchester would be Pool C's and Case in the conversation in Pool B/C. And that's pretty much what matters. Maybe I should change this to "sizing up" the region and invite more discussion on conference races and such in addition to Pool B and C...because probably the #8 team in the region isn't getting a postseason bid without a conference championship.

Mulvey certainly could start now. If he does, I imagine he'll see a few relief stints before the trip to Heidelberg. Byers would be on his 4th day...you count the day you pitch.

Of course with the weather as it's been, it's hard to count on much!
OWU has played or will play all these teams in the next few weeks so I will get to see them up close. My son will probably start one of the Witt games but won't see more than a few innings maybe, against the others. OWU split with Case. The first game was good and both teams were competitive. The second game not so much so. First inning was good second OK but then the wheels fell off of OWU's pitching. 
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: jos s on April 02, 2013, 02:23:22 PM
i was impressed with the OWU team...solid group.

Case controls it's own destiny ....with upcoming games vs wooster...oberlin...JCU...depauw....washington and jefferson and marrietta

not sure if many other schools have played the sced that Case has thus far, and hopefully winning the UAA league tourney for the first time in school history will also get them the respect of the voters come playoff time.   
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 02, 2013, 03:15:48 PM
Thanks Jos_s. They are young and need to find consistency. +1
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 03, 2013, 07:48:37 PM
After sweeping Hiedi on Tuesday, 4-3 and 4-2, Ott falls to OWU, 5-3. Ott allowed 5 runs in the 8th inning.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: jos s on April 07, 2013, 08:06:51 AM
So far ..... The Mideast region is incredible..... Must be 15 teams with over 12 wins..... Wow !
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: jos s on April 07, 2013, 08:30:27 AM
I take that back......19 teams in the region with 12 or more wins...... 6 with 14 or more.... With 5 playoff spots going to conf winners.....those last couple of spots are going to be a real shoot out !
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Spence on April 07, 2013, 11:33:49 AM
As a way to try to approximate regional rankings, I'm compiling a list of teams with above .500 regional records in order of in-region schedule strength.

I'm not getting a whole lot of certainty out of this other than Marietta being at the top. They have the highest schedule rating of any team with .800 or better in-region winning percentage. The other schools ranked in the top 50 at .800 or better are Johns Hopkins, Ramapo and Kean. So it appears the rumors of the Etta Express's derailment were greatly exaggerated.

Team   Regional record   Rwin%OWP (rank)   OOWP   NCAA
15 Marietta         12-2   .857   .6281 (22)           .5486    0.602
70 Mount Union   8-7   .533   .5830 (60)    .5010    0.556
79 John Carroll   7-6   .538   .5789 (62)    .4835    0.547
86 Adrian         11-6   .647   .5517 (91)    .5225    0.542
99 Denison           9-8   .529   .5431 (104)   .5270    0.538
116 Case West.   14-6   .700   .5260 (151)   .5486    0.534
119 Olivet            7-6   .538   .5390 (116)   .5202    0.533
122 Ohio Wes.   8-5   .615   .5380 (121)   .5188    0.532
192 Thiel          11-9   .550   .5100 (179)   .5065    0.509
204 Baldwin-W.   11-3   .786   .5000 (201)   .5148    0.505
211 La Roche   17-4   .810   .4817 (245)   .5442    0.503
228 Wooster   7-3   .700   .4952 (223)   .4975    0.496
236 Thom. More   10-6   .625   .4800 (251)   .5194    0.493
269 Allegheny   11-4   .733   .4421 (300)   .5527    0.479
275 Defiance   8-5   .615   .4778 (255)   .4737    0.476
277 Oberlin   3-1   .750   .5172 (169)   .3927    0.476
292 PSUBehrend   10-5   .667   .4350 (306)   .5282    0.466
303 Calvin            8-6   .571   .4507 (286)   .4796    0.460
305 Manchester   13-3   .812   .4321 (310)   .5078    0.457
307 Wittenberg   7-5   .583   .4386 (302)   .4926    0.457
324 Otterbein   6-4   .600   .4077 (325)   .5211    0.446
330 W and J   10-3   .769   .3636 (349)   .5703    0.432
333 Bluffton   11-10.524   .3853 (341)   .5185    0.430
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on April 07, 2013, 11:43:58 AM
NO WAY Case should be behind John Carroll.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Spence on April 07, 2013, 11:48:31 AM
Quote from: JagranSpartan on April 07, 2013, 11:43:58 AM
NO WAY Case should be behind John Carroll.

There is no should or shouldn't be. This is pure math. If they are, it's because they should be.

Case has played a pretty tough overall schedule, but many of those were not in-region games.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on April 07, 2013, 03:38:31 PM
Then it's pretty "fuzzy" math given that Case already beat JCU this year.

Granted, Case still has two more games scheduled against JCU this season, as well as two games against Denison, so those programs still have a chance to prove that they deserve their higher rankings.

But at this point, no way JCU should be ranked ahead of a team that beat them.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Spence on April 07, 2013, 04:01:50 PM
You clearly don't get what this list is.

In other news, W&J with a very big 11-10 road win over Marietta. Marietta playing their 5th game in 4 days going against W&J's ace, but it was the bullpen that held firm after Marietta built a 9-0 lead.

MC tried to use Byers and Mulvey in relief late to keep the lead from slipping completely away but were unable to do it. 11 walks for Marietta pitching.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: motorman on April 07, 2013, 04:05:10 PM
Quote from: JagranSpartan on April 07, 2013, 03:38:31 PM
Then it's pretty "fuzzy" math given that Case already beat JCU this year.

Granted, Case still has two more games scheduled against JCU this season, as well as two games against Denison, so those programs still have a chance to prove that they deserve their higher rankings.

But at this point, no way JCU should be ranked ahead of a team that beat them.

It isn't fuzzy math, it is a calculation of strength of schedule, not a ranking. It doesn't take into account if you won those games or not.

I do have a question for you Spence. How is South Region Huntingdon included in Marietta's regional strength of schedule calculation?
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Spence on April 07, 2013, 04:14:46 PM
Quote from: motorman on April 07, 2013, 04:05:10 PM
Quote from: JagranSpartan on April 07, 2013, 03:38:31 PM
Then it's pretty "fuzzy" math given that Case already beat JCU this year.

Granted, Case still has two more games scheduled against JCU this season, as well as two games against Denison, so those programs still have a chance to prove that they deserve their higher rankings.

But at this point, no way JCU should be ranked ahead of a team that beat them.

It isn't fuzzy math, it is a calculation of strength of schedule, not a ranking. It doesn't take into account if you won those games or not.

I do have a question for you Spence. How is South Region Huntingdon included in Marietta's regional strength of schedule calculation?

That is a question for someone at the NCAA. They expanded the regions for the purpose of counting in-region games so that teams could get more "in-region" games. Alabama is apparently in region.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on April 07, 2013, 11:31:03 PM
Quote from: Spence on April 07, 2013, 11:48:31 AM
Quote from: JagranSpartan on April 07, 2013, 11:43:58 AM
NO WAY Case should be behind John Carroll.

There is no should or shouldn't be. This is pure math. If they are, it's because they should be.

Case has played a pretty tough overall schedule, but many of those were not in-region games.
???
All of Case's games are in-region.

Maybe what you meant was that their opponent's wins were not in region.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Spence on April 08, 2013, 12:38:37 AM
Quote from: ADL70 on April 07, 2013, 11:31:03 PM
Quote from: Spence on April 07, 2013, 11:48:31 AM
Quote from: JagranSpartan on April 07, 2013, 11:43:58 AM
NO WAY Case should be behind John Carroll.

There is no should or shouldn't be. This is pure math. If they are, it's because they should be.

Case has played a pretty tough overall schedule, but many of those were not in-region games.
???
All of Case's games are in-region.

Maybe what you meant was that their opponent's wins were not in region.

I didn't think Brandeis or Washington STL were in region. Maybe they are because it's their conference?

Whatever it is, I didn't make it what it is. The numbers are what they are. I'm not sure why there's any argument here at all.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: jos s on April 08, 2013, 07:40:20 AM
i can fully understand the frustration over the math...many things go into the selection of the playoff teams, and there are a lot of games to play and help everything unfold.  Case winning the UAA conf tourney , and if they can once again earn a 30 win season should get it done.  But Case has a meat grinder sced coming up with games against oberlin....W & J... Depauw.. John Carroll..  baldwin wallace and marrietta.   i don't see anyone else with a road that tough.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on April 08, 2013, 11:22:32 AM
No argument with your SOS post Spence.  +k for posting it.

Yes, Brandeis and WUStL are in region since they are UAA foes.

After Sunday JCU's SOS is below CWRU's.

Still a week or two before the first RR.

jos s ...the UAA title by itself doesn't mean anything.  But wins over WUStL will mean a lot, both for RR and Pool B

ME top 10 by region win% (with SoS)

1. Manchester       .812                     LaRoche            .810   (.488)   Just checked they are MA not ME
2  Marietta            .800   (.603)
     W&J                  ,800   (.446)
4. BW                   .786   (.510)
5. Allegheny         .765   (.479)
6. Adrian               .684   (.536)
7. CWRU               .682   (.534)
8. Wooster           .667   (.537)
9. Hope               .647   (.553)
    Thomas More  .647   (.481)

PS Behrend is MA also

For kicks I approximated best record v best sched by multiplying win % by SoS

1. Marietta         .482
2. BW                 .404
                                                      LaRoche       .395  MA not ME
3. W&J               .377
4. Manchester    .376
5. Adrian            .367
6. Allegheny       .366
7. CWRU            .364
8. Wooster         .358
     Hope              .358
10. Thomas More .311


CWRU has games remaining v #s 1, 2, and 3.  Plus Dension which has a high SoS
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: jos s on April 08, 2013, 02:37:22 PM
damn....great numbers.. :o... you have earned an A for math

very impressed with the Case team,   just keep winning and everything will fall into place.  In an everyday tourney format,  Case's pitching depth will be tough to beat.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Spence on April 08, 2013, 04:34:08 PM
Guess I forgot about the conference all being in-region. I'll be so glad when all of that foolishness goes away. A ballgame is a ballgame.

Case doesn't really have to worry much about anyone in the region. All they have to do is get one of the Pool B bids that there's usually not that much real competition for. One advantage Case often has in the season that they won't in a regional though is pitching. Everyone else in the region is always throwing their top arms in conference games, not against Case.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: EttaFan1 on April 18, 2013, 11:15:02 AM
Without numbers and simply looking at the W's and L's and the poll through this week (4/15)....

1.  Manchester (23-3-1)
2.  Marietta (20-7)
3.  Thomas More
4-7: W&J, LaRoche, Adrian, CWRU (wouldn't begin to know what order to put them in)
8.  Wooster

Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Spence on April 18, 2013, 01:14:43 PM
There's such a vast difference in in-region schedule strength between Marietta and Manchester that the Etta Express might still be #1 in the region. But that's very clearly the top 2.

Then I guess I'd go:
3. Case Western
4. Adrian
5. Hope
6. Denison
7. Wooster
8. LaRoche
9. W&J
10. B-W

But I don't think there's much difference between any of them.

EDIT: left out Wooster somehow.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: EttaFan1 on April 18, 2013, 01:24:43 PM
I purposely left BW out of the discussion due to their current sanctions, but they are certainly deserving of one of the spots right now.

It will be interesting to see the first set of regional rankings which should be out any time now...

Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: OshDude on April 18, 2013, 03:38:53 PM
Quote from: EttaFan1 on April 18, 2013, 01:24:43 PM
I purposely left BW out of the discussion due to their current sanctions, but they are certainly deserving of one of the spots right now.

It will be interesting to see the first set of regional rankings which should be out any time now...
Scheduled to debut next week.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 03, 2016, 02:33:25 PM
Ok lets get this started for 2015.

This is strictly using D3 baseballs top 25.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Jim Dixon on March 04, 2016, 02:11:29 PM
These teams can fit in at the 10th spot:

Otterbein 5-0
Rose-Hulman 4-1

Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 03, 2016, 02:33:25 PM
Ok lets get this started for 2015.

This is strictly using D3 baseballs top 25.

    1. Marrietta
    2. Wooster
    3. Heidelberg
    4. LaRoche
    5. Ohio Northern
    6. Baldwin Wallace
    7. Thomas More
    8. Adrian
    9. Ohio Wesleyan
    10. ???

    I do not think we have seen enough of these teams play yet, to have a good feel. Marietta is 3-1, Heidelberg 1-2, LaRoche 2-0, Ohio Northern 2-2, BW 2-3, and Adrian 0-1.
    Next week we should be able to start filling this in a bit.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 04, 2016, 08:36:58 PM
Maybe Capital, after they beat RHIT. I will hold off of OTT for a few games yet. 3 of those wins are against, North Central MN.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 16, 2016, 09:59:01 AM
2. Denison
3. Wooster
4. Mt St Joseph (they have not played any tough cpmpetition yet.)
5. LaRoche
6. Marietta
7. Ohio Wesleyan
8. Allegheny
9. Capital
10. Ott

Tough to do the usual powers do not seem to be taking control. We will know more once Conference play starts. Ott and OWU play today so that will help a bit.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Pops33 on March 22, 2016, 10:45:05 AM
Based on the most recent D3Baseball.com poll:

Ranked Teams:

22.  Wooster

ARV (in order of votes received):

Mount St. Joseph
Marietta
LaRoche
Ohio Northern
Otterbein
Denison
Penn St. Behrend

Not sure that I agree with the order. Those not mentioned but worthy of consideration are Ohio Welseyan, Theil, Alma, and Earlham based on their current records.  I expect others (such as Adrian, Rose Hulman, and Baldwin Wallace) to possibly work their way into this list as the season progresses as well.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on March 22, 2016, 11:35:08 AM
Pops,
I agree. OWU for instance has beaten Ott. And OTT's schedule has not been the toughest. Not that OWU's has been exceedingly strong. Alvernia and Moravian have not been as strong as I hoped, But they are definitely, better than North Central.

BW and OWU play Wednesday, So that will help.

All any team can do is beat the teams scheduled and move forward.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Pops33 on March 31, 2016, 09:06:26 AM
Rankings according to the Massey ratings (only listed those in the top 100) http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?s=cbase2016&sub=11620 (http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?s=cbase2016&sub=11620):

13  Wooster
26  Denison
49  Marietta
59  Rose Hulman
63  Ohio Wesleyan
64  Ohio Northern
81  Earlham
85  Thiel
86  Kalamazoo
88  Otterbein
95  La Roche

The list looks pretty solid based on the season so far.  As conference play progresses, I am sure there will be a lot of movement.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on April 17, 2016, 01:30:13 AM
Case Western Reserve just SWEPT a double header from #22 Wooster today to move to 20-12 for the season.

Hard to imagine that CWRU isn't considered among the Top Five in the region.

Tomorrow, CWRU plays another game against Wooster, together with a game against cross-town rival John Carroll.

Double headers are scheduled with Oberlin and Marietta next week, with a season finale at Progressive Field (home of the Cleveland Indians) against John Carroll.

Query: If CWRU can win ALL of those upcoming games and finish the season 27-12, do the Spartans stand any chance of getting an at-large bid to the NCAAs from this region?
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on April 17, 2016, 09:36:09 AM
Winning them all is not very likely. Having fourth highest SOS currently does portend well. I don't think we get RRs until the week after this.

Edit:

Spartans win six games in four days, including three over Wooster.

CWRU and WUSTL are contending for the second Pool B spot behind Emory. CWRU has a slim edge in SOS and W/L, but the Bears have the H2H.

Correction:

Emory and St John Fisher look like the two Bs right now Fisher is 20-6.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on April 17, 2016, 07:41:43 PM
Case just beat #23 Wooster again today to SWEEP the three game series, and beat JCU after that.

22-12 now with five games to go.

And to think that people here didn't even have us in their regional Top Ten.

I still hope that we'll win these last five games.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Dr. Acula on April 18, 2016, 12:22:16 AM
Case is definitely top 10 in the region.  Probably top 5 IMO.  However, I'm not sure how much stock I'd put in the JCU win.  They literally faced the JV pitchers.  3 of those 6 kids had never pitched a varsity inning.  It looks like most of them are freshmen.  It's hard to gauge when you're talking about anyone's 8th or 10th best pitcher or whatever. 
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on April 18, 2016, 12:58:11 AM
CWRU was down to the bottom of its staff as well having played six games in four days.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on April 18, 2016, 02:13:23 AM
Our doubleheader Wednesday is against a mediocre 12-13 Oberlin team, and our best arms should be ready.

Marietta will be a lot tougher.

Let's hope that we can beat JCU at "The Jake" to close out the regular season.

At that point, it looks as if it'll be a "dice roll" to make the NCAAs.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on April 20, 2016, 06:52:42 PM
We swept Oberlin with two lopsided victories today.

Let's finish strong and hope for an at large bid.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Dr. Acula on April 21, 2016, 08:51:33 AM
Looking at the top 25 isn't pretty for us currently, is it?  La Roche jumped in at 23 to save us from being shut out.  NCAC and OAC aren't even sniffing a top 25 team.  One would think we're in store for wild conference tournaments this year with the lack of a dominant team in either conference.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on April 24, 2016, 09:31:13 PM
CWRU split wit Marietta today.

Hopefully we can finish with a win over JCU.

At that point, we'll have to roll the dice on making the NCAAs.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: EttaFan1 on April 25, 2016, 08:05:43 AM
The good things helping Case and Marietta are very strong SOS numbers.  Case with the toughest schedule in the country and Marietta with the 7th toughest.  Both have similar records as well--which is the "not so good"  (ie 12 losses). 

The (official) regional rankings will be very interesting. 

my guess is:

1.  La Roche.
2-?:  A bunch of who knows what that could include any of the following teams:  Thomas More, Rose Hulman, Adrian, Wooster, OWU, Marietta, Otterbein, Case Western, Denison, and probably a few others I couldn't even imagine.

The next few weeks will sort some things out.  Pool C Berth's will be very sparse this year, IMO. 
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: mideastfan2 on April 25, 2016, 12:54:30 PM
Quote from: EttaFan1 on April 25, 2016, 08:05:43 AM
The good things helping Case and Marietta are very strong SOS numbers.  Case with the toughest schedule in the country and Marietta with the 7th toughest.  Both have similar records as well--which is the "not so good"  (ie 12 losses). 



If Marietta doesn't win the OAC tournament, then a slight positive is that they hold the edge over Case because they took the season series 2 games to 1.

If I were Case, I would be cheering for Marietta to win the Pool A bid out of the OAC.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on April 25, 2016, 02:30:16 PM
I'm cheering for no upsets in conference tourneys.

H2H will no doubt be significant, but CWRU has slightly better W/L and SOS.  RR I believe will be out Wednesday.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Pops33 on April 26, 2016, 11:14:29 AM
Quote from: mideastfan2 on April 25, 2016, 12:54:30 PM
Quote from: EttaFan1 on April 25, 2016, 08:05:43 AM
The good things helping Case and Marietta are very strong SOS numbers.  Case with the toughest schedule in the country and Marietta with the 7th toughest.  Both have similar records as well--which is the "not so good"  (ie 12 losses). 



If Marietta doesn't win the OAC tournament, then a slight positive is that they hold the edge over Case because they took the season series 2 games to 1.

If I were Case, I would be cheering for Marietta to win the Pool A bid out of the OAC.

If Marietta does not win the OAC conference tourney, they will have a minimum of 15 losses.  Even with their strength of schedule, it may be difficult to give them a bid with that many losses.  The only other OAC team in the discussion for an at-large bid would be Otterbein, but they may have to win out (other than the tournament).  That would give them a minimum of 9 losses.  With a weaker strength of schedule (currently 298th according to d3baseball.com), that may not be good enough.  Last year, Wooster finished 36-9 and did not receive a bid, with the apparent reason being strength of schedule.  I think the OAC only gets one team into regionals this year.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on April 27, 2016, 04:32:55 PM
CWRU bests JCU 6-1 at Progressive Field in season finale to get back to .667.  Spartans were serious, no token appearances by seniors today.

Pool C effectively shrank by one as PacLuth (24-16) pushed Whitworth (26-10 .520 SoS) into the pool by winning the NWC.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on April 27, 2016, 04:45:45 PM
ADL70,

So the regional rankings still aren't out?
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on April 27, 2016, 05:00:22 PM
Gang,

I just noticed that CWRU is now receiving votes in both the Collegiate Baseball and d3baseball.com polls.

http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/baseball/d3/ncbwad3baseballcom (http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/baseball/d3/ncbwad3baseballcom)

Sure wish they'd put out the regional rankings.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on April 27, 2016, 05:26:59 PM
Quote from: DagarmanSpartan on April 27, 2016, 04:45:45 PM
ADL70,

So the regional rankings still aren't out?

Thursday-- see playoff central on baseball home page.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on April 28, 2016, 04:53:51 PM
Ok.  So we're ranked 4th in the region behind La Rouche, Marietta, and Ohio Wesleyan.

http://d3baseball.com/notables/2016/04/Regional-rankings-week-1 (http://d3baseball.com/notables/2016/04/Regional-rankings-week-1)

I hope that that will be enough to get us into the tourney!

Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Jim Dixon on April 29, 2016, 10:57:19 AM
Quote from: DagarmanSpartan on April 28, 2016, 04:53:51 PM
Ok.  So we're ranked 4th in the region behind La Rouche, Marietta, and Ohio Wesleyan.

http://d3baseball.com/notables/2016/04/Regional-rankings-week-1 (http://d3baseball.com/notables/2016/04/Regional-rankings-week-1)

I hope that that will be enough to get us into the tourney!

fourth is is bubble territory.  Last Year's fourth place team in the week 1 regional rankings was left out.

4    Ohio Northern    23-7-0 ( 0.767)    23-7-0 ( 0.767)
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on April 29, 2016, 11:37:53 AM
Plus all this can change. This is only the first ranking.
I do have a question. Lets say LaRoche, Marietta and OWU win there conference tourney and Case stays at number four in the final secret ranking. Durin selection Case would be the first on the board for the mid east correct?
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on April 30, 2016, 06:32:37 PM
Quote from: DagarmanSpartan on April 28, 2016, 04:53:51 PM
Ok.  So we're ranked 4th in the region behind La Rouche, Marietta, and Ohio Wesleyan.

http://d3baseball.com/notables/2016/04/Regional-rankings-week-1 (http://d3baseball.com/notables/2016/04/Regional-rankings-week-1)

I hope that that will be enough to get us into the tourney!

Those three winning conference tournaments would help a bunch.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 03, 2016, 10:54:02 PM
I think the message from the committee is a pretty significant one....

Schedule good competition, period.

Marietta's cwru's and records aren't necessarily glowing, but their sos rankings are 7th and first respectively. 

1. Laroche sos ranking: 214
2. Marietta sos ranking 7th
3. Owu sos ranking 42
4. Cwru sos ranking first
5. Wooster sos ranking 60
6. Rhit sos ranking 182
7.  Adrian sos ranking 241
8.  Denison sos ranking 64
9. Otterbein sos ranking 253.

I think the committee is showing some respect for those who play tough competition and maybe don't have the same success as those who have an easier time
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on May 04, 2016, 03:07:53 PM
Quote from: EttaFan1 on May 03, 2016, 10:54:02 PM
I think the message from the committee is a pretty significant one....

Schedule good competition, period.

Marietta's cwru's and records aren't necessarily glowing, but their sos rankings are 7th and first respectively. 

1. Laroche sos ranking: 214
2. Marietta sos ranking 7th
3. Owu sos ranking 42
4. Cwru sos ranking first
5. Wooster sos ranking 60
6. Rhit sos ranking 182
7.  Adrian sos ranking 241
8.  Denison sos ranking 64
9. Otterbein sos ranking 253.

I think the committee is showing some respect for those who play tough competition and maybe don't have the same success as those who have an easier time

Well, that, AND the fact that CWRU had a lot of success against the other teams on that list, including a three game sweep of #5 Wooster and two game sweep of #8 Denison.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 04, 2016, 03:28:54 PM
Very true....

Marietta is 2-1 vs case, 1-0 vs owu, 1-0 vs Wooster, 1-0 vs Adrian, 1-1 vs otterbein, 0-1 vs Denison and 0-2 vs la Roche.

La Roche has had a lot of success against in region teams as well.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 05, 2016, 02:52:19 PM
The last regional ranking makes real sense to me. We will see later today if they still make sense to me. I believe the top 4 will stay the same.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 05, 2016, 02:56:48 PM
Ott is trying hard to increase their SOS.
They have scheduled Games against LaRoche and Frostburg in Pittsburgh. They should have scheduled them earlier.

http://www.otterbeincardinals.com/schedule.aspx?path=baseball&
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 05, 2016, 10:37:19 PM
Too little too late, imo.  The crap they schedule earlier in the season is the reason for thei sos being garbage. Playing frostburg and la Roche will help, but not that much.  It will be interesting to see
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 05, 2016, 10:53:33 PM
Well they moved up one or two places in the regional rankings today, and they continue to recieve votes in the d3 poll.
And I agree, they should not wait until the end to schedule a tough opponent. Looks like they have done that for a few years now.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on May 13, 2016, 06:44:06 PM
OWU loses to Wooster and Denison and is out of NCAC tournament. The losses drop their W/L below CWRU and their SOS rank is 46th. Will those elevate the Spartans despite the Bishops' 2-1 h2h advantage?

Hot dark horse DePauw will only need to win one of two from the winner of tonight's Wooster vs Denison game to win the AQ.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 14, 2016, 07:19:20 PM
Regionally ranked pool a teams

1. La Roche. (Leads 8-4 in the 7th at this time)
2. Marietta
5. Wooster
8. rose Hulman

Unbranded pool a

Thomas more.
Kalamazoo

Pool b teams

4. Cwru

Pool c teams
3. Owu
6. Otterbein
7. Adrian
9. Denison
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ElRetornodelEspencio on May 14, 2016, 10:39:58 PM
Don't expect these rankings to stay the same. OWU probably fell below Case and possibly also Wooster, and is squarely on the bubble (I have them as one of the last teams out with North Central being eliminated today in CCIW).

I will be surprised if Rose Hulman or Kalamazoo head to Washington Pa. Rose-Hulman is one of few teams that can bus to the South regional (even including most South regional teams, oddly; don't be surprised if Frostburg or Shenandoah or both show up). Thomas More too if they end up going (I think they and W&J have one game winner-take-all for the bid tomorrow). Kalamazoo can bus to the Midwest or Central.

Could be a lot of unfamiliar logos in the Mideast regional this year (though Frostburg would be familiar to some). I'm projecting 11 teams from the New England region, so some folks are gonna have to go somewhere.

Fortunately, Marietta cannot bus to the South regional this year.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on May 14, 2016, 11:41:43 PM
Quote from: EttaFan1 on May 14, 2016, 07:19:20 PM
Regionally ranked pool a teams

1. La Roche. (Leads 8-4 in the 7th at this time)
2. Marietta
5. Wooster
8. rose Hulman

Unbranded pool a

Thomas more.
Kalamazoo

Pool b teams

4. Cwru

Pool c teams
3. Owu
6. Otterbein
7. Adrian
9. Denison

Bs are likely to be Emory and SJ Fisher so CWRU drops to C. LaRoche won today, faces Behrend tomorrow for the AQ. Go Redhawks!
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ElRetornodelEspencio on May 15, 2016, 12:31:53 AM
Quote from: ADL70 on May 14, 2016, 11:41:43 PM
Quote from: EttaFan1 on May 14, 2016, 07:19:20 PM
Regionally ranked pool a teams

1. La Roche. (Leads 8-4 in the 7th at this time)
2. Marietta
5. Wooster
8. rose Hulman

Unbranded pool a

Thomas more.
Kalamazoo

Pool b teams

4. Cwru

Pool c teams
3. Owu
6. Otterbein
7. Adrian
9. Denison

Bs are likely to be Emory and SJ Fisher so CWRU drops to C. LaRoche won today, faces Behrend tomorrow for the AQ. Go Redhawks!

I imagine it'll be a lively discussion for the 2nd Pool B spot. In the end I doubt it matters as they're all 3 (Case, Fisher, Wash U) getting in, I think.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 16, 2016, 11:09:36 AM
OWU and Case both get in. Do not know how each was ranked in the final secret ballot, but glad both got in.  They are the 3rd seed in the west while OWU is the 5th in Washington.
Marietta goes south to GA as a number 4.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 16, 2016, 04:49:05 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on May 05, 2016, 10:53:33 PM
Well they moved up one or two places in the regional rankings today, and they continue to recieve votes in the d3 poll.
And I agree, they should not wait until the end to schedule a tough opponent. Looks like they have done that for a few years now.
With Ott being left home hopefully we will see a stronger schedule for them next year. Played one game against a BAD D1 team and then 3 against North Central. Did not play very strong teams when they went down south. Hopefully they change their MO next year.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on May 16, 2016, 05:54:00 PM
They did have two or three games scheduled with CWRU that were lost to weather.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 16, 2016, 07:27:17 PM
Quote from: ADL70 on May 16, 2016, 05:54:00 PM
They did have two or three games scheduled with CWRU that were lost to weather.
true but IMO, they wasted three games in Florida. I can see playing one game against North Central but not Three.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ElRetornodelEspencio on May 16, 2016, 09:30:15 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on May 16, 2016, 04:49:05 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on May 05, 2016, 10:53:33 PM
Well they moved up one or two places in the regional rankings today, and they continue to recieve votes in the d3 poll.
And I agree, they should not wait until the end to schedule a tough opponent. Looks like they have done that for a few years now.
With Ott being left home hopefully we will see a stronger schedule for them next year. Played one game against a BAD D1 team and then 3 against North Central. Did not play very strong teams when they went down south. Hopefully they change their MO next year.

Only so much they can do with when their spring trip is. But they can't play North Central 3 times again. They just can't. Killed them. I don't think it should have, I think people should have been smart enough to see through that, and maybe they were and it just wasn't good enough. But it just destroyed their SOS.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 16, 2016, 09:44:44 PM
I think if they could have pulled off a win at La Roche, they could have made it. It looked like head to head may have been important.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on May 16, 2016, 09:51:55 PM
Go to see Case made it in.  Their pool looks tough though.  It'll take a tremendous effort on their part to advance.

GO SPARTANS!!!
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 17, 2016, 07:23:51 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on May 16, 2016, 04:49:05 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on May 05, 2016, 10:53:33 PM
Well they moved up one or two places in the regional rankings today, and they continue to recieve votes in the d3 poll.
And I agree, they should not wait until the end to schedule a tough opponent. Looks like they have done that for a few years now.
With Ott being left home hopefully we will see a stronger schedule for them next year. Played one game against a BAD D1 team and then 3 against North Central. Did not play very strong teams when they went down south. Hopefully they change their MO next year.

I think otterbein is at a slight disadvantage for spring break. It appears their Florida trip doesn't line up with most other d3 schools when everyone else goes south, so the number of opponents is limited. With that said I thought most of the d3 schools in our region would have learned last year when Wooster who had 30+ wins was left at home because of their awful sos.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 17, 2016, 12:03:55 PM
The other thing that didn't help Ott was that the OAC as a whole was down.  Lots of .500 teams this year including two of the teams that made the OAC tournament.  The records of the 2nd-4th place teams didn't do them any favors.  Normally you could have counted on something more like Etta being 28-12 and BW/JCU being 25-15 or thereabouts.   
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 17, 2016, 01:07:51 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on May 17, 2016, 12:03:55 PM
The other thing that didn't help Ott was that the OAC as a whole was down.  Lots of .500 teams this year including two of the teams that made the OAC tournament.  The records of the 2nd-4th place teams didn't do them any favors.  Normally you could have counted on something more like Etta being 28-12 and BW/JCU being 25-15 or thereabouts.   
BW has been good but really only since the 2012 season. Before that they were a middle of the road team. Of coarse that is when Coach Harrison showed up and has done good things with the program. I hope this is just a blip on the radar for BW and not a return to form.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 17, 2016, 02:48:46 PM
They were good down the stretch including in the OAC tournament.  They lost 1-0 and 6-5 to Etta last weekend so it's not like they were playing poorly at all.  Harrison does a very good job there.  They just started slowly this year.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 17, 2016, 04:52:58 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on May 17, 2016, 12:03:55 PM
The other thing that didn't help Ott was that the OAC as a whole was down.  Lots of .500 teams this year including two of the teams that made the OAC tournament.  The records of the 2nd-4th place teams didn't do them any favors.  Normally you could have counted on something more like Etta being 28-12 and BW/JCU being 25-15 or thereabouts.   

True to a point....The OAC is down.  Otterbein had the best overall record, and you don't play yourself, so there is no benefit to that, but it is worth noting, that the only OAC school with a worse SOS than Otterbein is Wilmington.  BW, JCU, and Marietta all had top 50 SOS rankings this year and played in the same conference.  IS the difference between 212 and 34 playing Otterbein 2 or three times vs playing BW two or three times? 

I would also venture a guess that conferences probably look very similar from top to bottom from an overall W-L perspective.  There are bad and mediocre teams in every conference. 

I really think it goes beyond what is in your conference.   Scheduling good teams and having decent results against that competition is given a lot more weight when it comes time to the post season selection.   They sent that message loudly to Wooster last year.  I hope Otterbein heard them again. 
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: old scot on May 17, 2016, 06:08:49 PM
OWU getting in was a real stretch.  Mid east was weak this year and they were thrown a bone.  Will see how things shakeout and see what is what. Woo not getting last year vs OWU getting in this year must be politics.  Scots earned their way in this year. Yea, I'm bitter about last year when the Obies took the auto bid and Woo got shut out.  Good luck to the Scots, Etta, and OWU.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 17, 2016, 08:36:43 PM
I was surprised when OWU got in. They did have abtop 50 SOS, compared to Wooster last year. Alsobthe teams in front of them in the regional rankings won the pool A bids. OWU was probably first or second on the board for the mid east. If Depauw had gotten the pool A OWU would not have gotten in, bevause Wooster would have taken a C and OWU and probably left on the board when the last selection is made. OWU needs to prove they belong.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 17, 2016, 08:38:57 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on May 17, 2016, 02:48:46 PM
They were good down the stretch including in the OAC tournament.  They lost 1-0 and 6-5 to Etta last weekend so it's not like they were playing poorly at all.  Harrison does a very good job there.  They just started slowly this year.
Good I like Harison, he recruited my son really hard when my son was going through the process.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: old scot on May 19, 2016, 01:53:26 PM
2 and BBQ for the Bishops. Didn't score a run in 2 games. Do you think the committee is re-thinking that pool C bid.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: old scot on May 19, 2016, 05:41:38 PM
Wow. La Roche gets the pine tar rule called on them. Out, but maybe OK. Umpires on confer. Send the player who was originally called out for to much pine tar back to second base.  Runner from second scores to win the game. Don't know the rule but I'm thinking George Brett is happy some where. I guess I show my age.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on May 19, 2016, 11:00:24 PM
Ouch!!!

Well that was a speedy exit for CWRU!
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: old scot on May 20, 2016, 07:30:13 AM
Woo losses to RM 2-1. Scots had the tying run thrown out at the plate trying to score from first on a double to end the game.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on May 20, 2016, 09:43:49 AM
Quote from: DagarmanSpartan on May 19, 2016, 11:00:24 PM
Ouch!!!

Well that was a speedy exit for CWRU!

Tough draw for the Spartans. Three seed, but the four was #18 in the poll and 5 per Massey.  Then they have to beat 1 seed to stay alive. Shouldn't the 1/6 winner play the 2/5 loser? Seems like the 5 seed has an easier path than 3/4.

Marietta suffered the same fate.

Remember the team should return essentially all of this season's contributors for 2017.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on May 20, 2016, 09:01:49 PM
It'll be interesting to see how the team does with the new "round robin" schedule.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on May 22, 2016, 10:25:52 AM
Quote from: DagarmanSpartan on May 20, 2016, 09:01:49 PM
It'll be interesting to see how the team does with the new "round robin" schedule.

Hope they can schedule quality spring break games.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ElRetornodelEspencio on May 22, 2016, 03:24:22 PM
Quote from: ADL70 on May 22, 2016, 10:25:52 AM
Quote from: DagarmanSpartan on May 20, 2016, 09:01:49 PM
It'll be interesting to see how the team does with the new "round robin" schedule.

Hope they can schedule quality spring break games.

It will be interesting to see how Case approaches in region games now. Technically their conference games still don't really count for anything as far as an NCAA berth goes. It would be nice to see the UAA get up to Pool A status.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 22, 2016, 11:45:47 PM
Quote from: ADL70 on May 20, 2016, 09:43:49 AM
Quote from: DagarmanSpartan on May 19, 2016, 11:00:24 PM
Ouch!!!

Well that was a speedy exit for CWRU!

Tough draw for the Spartans. Three seed, but the four was #18 in the poll and 5 per Massey.  Then they have to beat 1 seed to stay alive. Shouldn't the 1/6 winner play the 2/5 loser? Seems like the 5 seed has an easier path than 3/4.

Marietta suffered the same fate.

Remember the team should return essentially all of this season's contributors for 2017.
The format for the 6-team regional  has to configure for the "2 absent teams in the brackets".

The number 3/4 winner gets the 2-5 winner so there is no breather in the West Region with a 6-team format.  That was the topic of the week on the West (Rodney Daingerfield) Region tourney board.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ElRetornodelEspencio on May 23, 2016, 01:37:24 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 22, 2016, 11:45:47 PM
Quote from: ADL70 on May 20, 2016, 09:43:49 AM
Quote from: DagarmanSpartan on May 19, 2016, 11:00:24 PM
Ouch!!!

Well that was a speedy exit for CWRU!

Tough draw for the Spartans. Three seed, but the four was #18 in the poll and 5 per Massey.  Then they have to beat 1 seed to stay alive. Shouldn't the 1/6 winner play the 2/5 loser? Seems like the 5 seed has an easier path than 3/4.

Marietta suffered the same fate.

Remember the team should return essentially all of this season's contributors for 2017.
The format for the 6-team regional  has to configure for the "2 absent teams in the brackets".

The number 3/4 winner gets the 2-5 winner so there is no breather in the West Region with a 6-team format.  That was the topic of the week on the West (Rodney Daingerfield) Region tourney board.

I don't know if I buy that though. It looked like there was only 1 team in that regional that was capable of winning it, which is a contrast to most of the other regions.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ElRetornodelEspencio on May 23, 2016, 01:39:32 AM
Quote from: ADL70 on May 22, 2016, 10:25:52 AM
Quote from: DagarmanSpartan on May 20, 2016, 09:01:49 PM
It'll be interesting to see how the team does with the new "round robin" schedule.

Hope they can schedule quality spring break games.

I hope they diversify their spring trips. Could really help connect together schedules from different parts of the country.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Pops33 on December 22, 2016, 11:45:26 AM
Collegiate Baseball has released their pre-season poll for 2017.  Take with a grain of salt, since most voters do not realize what each team (other than the top few) have lost from or have returning to their roster.  It is mainly a re-print of the end of the season poll, with a little bit of shuffling.  However, this does mean that ball games are just around the corner!!!

http://baseballnews.com/collegiate-baseball-div-3-poll-12-21-16/

Not much movement in the top 10, other than Trinity dropping from 1 to 11.  Those from the mideast region getting recognition are:

Laroche   4
Wooster  19
Adrian     23
Marietta  24
Rose-Hulman  37

Also receiving votes: CWRU, Otterbein, Thomas More, OWU, Kalamazoo
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 23, 2016, 12:20:37 AM
Quote from: Pops33 on December 22, 2016, 11:45:26 AM
Collegiate Baseball has released their pre-season poll for 2017.  Take with a grain of salt, since most voters do not realize what each team (other than the top few) have lost from or have returning to their roster.  It is mainly a re-print of the end of the season poll, with a little bit of shuffling.  However, this does mean that ball games are just around the corner!!!

http://baseballnews.com/collegiate-baseball-div-3-poll-12-21-16/

Not much movement in the top 10, other than Trinity dropping from 1 to 11.  Those from the mideast region getting recognition are:

Laroche   4
Wooster  19
Adrian     23
Marietta  24
Rose-Hulman  37

Also receiving votes: CWRU, Otterbein, Thomas More, OWU, Kalamazoo
I guess that Baseball America has 8 voters.  Think about this.

The Poll doesn't make sense at first blush. Maybe I am assuming the vote allocation is like "D3" does it.

They do not list 1st place votes.
They have 33 teams receiving votes.

The #40 team (JHU) has 182 votes. The Number 1 team Cortland has 274. That is too close of a margin between #1 and #40

Do they only vote for 25 teams and then rank 40? I don't know.

Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ElRetornodelEspencio on December 23, 2016, 08:05:53 AM
I guess the mystery of why Wooster is overrated every year will never be solved.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Jim Dixon on December 25, 2016, 06:16:11 PM
Quote from: Pops33 on December 22, 2016, 11:45:26 AM
Collegiate Baseball has released their pre-season poll for 2017.  Take with a grain of salt, since most voters do not realize what each team (other than the top few) have lost from or have returning to their roster.  It is mainly a re-print of the end of the season poll, with a little bit of shuffling.  However, this does mean that ball games are just around the corner!!!

I know they ask for the same information D3baseball.com does from the schools before the season.  To be true, you have to throw a wildcard in the preseason poll as there are always an unranked team that seems to crack the top 10.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Pops33 on February 02, 2017, 09:33:49 AM
Baseball America just released their D3 preview and had 2 Mid-East teams listed in their top 10.  Wooster at #7 and LaRoche at #8. 

http://www.baseballamerica.com/college/2017-college-preview-defending-d-iii-champs-start/#biwxWVrEuchcRJjm.97

They only listed their top 10.  Both LaRoche & Wooster have a ton of talent returning.   LaRoche did lose their Ace (Tanner Wilt), but I would still put them ahead of Wooster.  The returning players from LaRoche earned it with their performance last year.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on February 17, 2017, 01:06:57 PM
CWRU preview: http://athletics.case.edu/sports/bsb/2016-17/releases/20170217gdrowy
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on February 17, 2017, 04:20:35 PM
Wow!

That preview has me PSYCHED!!!

Sounds like almost the whole team is back!

Perhaps this could be CWRU's year!

Too bad we're playing one of the nation's toughest schedules.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Pops33 on March 03, 2017, 10:43:25 AM
Great win by Adrian last night over #3 Birmingham-Southern.  Good pitching on both sides.  In the top of the 8th, 2B Brian Killinger hit a solo HR that put the Bulldogs up by a run.  Kyle Shephard pitched 2 scoreless innings to get the save and secure the win.  This is also good for the region to get a win over a top notch, nationally ranked, and highly respected program. 

Later this month, Adrian has the opportunity to solidify where they rank in the region when they play Marietta, Wooster, and North Central Ill.(out of region, but still a very good team) on back-to-back-back days - March 17-19.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 15, 2017, 10:49:34 PM
Quote from: Pops33 on March 03, 2017, 10:43:25 AM
Great win by Adrian last night over #3 Birmingham-Southern.  Good pitching on both sides.  In the top of the 8th, 2B Brian Killinger hit a solo HR that put the Bulldogs up by a run.  Kyle Shephard pitched 2 scoreless innings to get the save and secure the win.  This is also good for the region to get a win over a top notch, nationally ranked, and highly respected program. 

Later this month, Adrian has the opportunity to solidify where they rank in the region when they play Marietta, Wooster, and North Central Ill.(out of region, but still a very good team) on back-to-back-back days - March 17-19.
I say that 2 out of 3 is "solid".
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Pops33 on April 24, 2017, 10:25:24 AM
If I am not mistaken, the regional rankings come out this week or next. Anyone want to take a shot at it? Here are my thoughts:

1. Wooster (24-5)
2. La Roche (26-6)
3. Adrian (24-8) - Have beaten 2 top 10 teams (Wooster & Birmingham Southern)
4. DePauw (26-7)
5. Mount Union (25-7), Strength of Schedule currently sits at #200
6. Denison (23-8), SOS currently #39
7. Washington & Jefferson (23-7)
8. Otterbein, (23-9)

Wild Cards  CWRU (21-14) SOS #1 & Marietta (16-12) SOS#5

In the past, the regional and national committees have put a lot of emphasis on Strength of Schedule so CWRU and Marietta may actually be ranked above some of these teams when the rankings come out.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Dr. Acula on April 24, 2017, 11:37:27 AM
It's like splitting hairs after #3 IMO.  For example, if Denison had split 2-2 with DPU instead of losing 3 of 4 I would have them at 4 and DPU at 6.  One game is the difference of 2 spots to me right now. 
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Pops33 on April 24, 2017, 03:55:10 PM
I agree with your assessment Dr.  Pretty close after the top 3.  To further complicate things, Marietta just added to their resume by beating LaRoche.  Let's see what happens in game 2 today.  Also, Marietta and Case play two games later this week which will most likely (1) eliminate either team if they got swept, or (2) eliminate both teams if they split.  Eliminate from a pool C bid, that is.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on April 24, 2017, 04:09:31 PM
Quote from: Pops33 on April 24, 2017, 10:25:24 AM
If I am not mistaken, the regional rankings come out this week or next. Anyone want to take a shot at it? Here are my thoughts:

1. Wooster (24-5)
2. La Roche (26-6)
3. Adrian (24-8) - Have beaten 2 top 10 teams (Wooster & Birmingham Southern)
4. DePauw (26-7)
5. Mount Union (25-7), Strength of Schedule currently sits at #200
6. Denison (23-8), SOS currently #39
7. Washington & Jefferson (23-7)
8. Otterbein, (23-9)

Wild Cards  CWRU (21-14) SOS #1 & Marietta (16-12) SOS#5

In the past, the regional and national committees have put a lot of emphasis on Strength of Schedule so CWRU and Marietta may actually be ranked above some of these teams when the rankings come out.

Add to CWRU's resume'  2-2 vs WashU #20 last week  2-2 vs Emory #25 last week.  2 one-run losses to W&J  Play Wooster tomorrow  15-3 over last 18 games
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Pops33 on April 24, 2017, 05:04:38 PM
Case has played one heck of a schedule.  No doubt about it.  They have proven that they are a good team.  Beating both Emory and Wash U twice definitely enhances any teams' resume.  And they have some tough games left.  If they win out and finish 26-14, the selection committee will have to take notice and reward them with a Pool C bid.  They also have to hope the top seeds win the conference tourneys.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on April 26, 2017, 10:20:59 AM
Spartans lose to Fighting Scots 10-5.  Wooster threw it's #1, while CWRU which played four games over the weekend ans had to start a pitcher who missed his last two starts due to injury.

If they can win the four remaining games, two with 'Etta and two with JCU, they will finish 25-15 0.625, with the toughest schedule in D3.  As Pops says need top seeds to win their conferences.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on April 26, 2017, 10:45:24 AM
We'll see how CWRU closes out the season.  I like the way that the Spartans appeared to have rallied during the new "Round Robin" conference format.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Pops33 on April 27, 2017, 01:03:35 PM
The first rankings were posted and it does not look like any surprises. Although, it has probably been a long while (if ever) that 3 out of the top 4 teams in the Regional Rankings were from the NCAC.  Not sure if they meant to put two teams at #5 or if that is a typo.

Mideast               
1.   Wooster      24-5      24-5
2.   La Roche      26-6      26-6
3.   DePauw      26-6      26-7
4.   Denison      23-8      23-8
5.   Adrian      23-8      24-8
5.   W & J      21-7      23-7
7.   Mt Union      25-7      25-7
8.   Otterbein      23-9      23-9
9.   Thomas More      22-7      22-7
10.   CWRU      21-14      21-14
11.   Marietta      16-12      16-12
12.   Kalamazoo      22-8      22-8
13.   Allegheny      20-12      20-12
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast R
Post by: Jim Dixon on April 27, 2017, 03:36:01 PM
Quote from: Pops33 on April 27, 2017, 01:03:35 PM
The first rankings were posted and it does not look like any surprises. Although, it has probably been a long while (if ever) that 3 out of the top 4 teams in the Regional Rankings were from the NCAC.  Not sure if they meant to put two teams at #5 or if that is a typo.

Mideast               
1.   Wooster      24-5      24-5
2.   La Roche      26-6      26-6
3.   DePauw      26-6      26-7
4.   Denison      23-8      23-8
5.   Adrian      23-8      24-8
5.   W & J      21-7      23-7
7.   Mt Union      25-7      25-7
8.   Otterbein      23-9      23-9
9.   Thomas More      22-7      22-7
10.   CWRU      21-14      21-14
11.   Marietta      16-12      16-12
12.   Kalamazoo      22-8      22-8
13.   Allegheny      20-12      20-12

What the NCAA make a mistake.  I will have to look in my spare time to see if they every tied a regional ranking before.  You would thing that they could have found some difference between Adrian and W&J.  Especially since these rankings will be history in another week.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on April 30, 2017, 05:22:04 PM
The cancellation of this weekend's series may hurt CWRU's chances.

We'll see!
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on May 02, 2017, 08:38:26 AM
Have added DH with BW Sunday.

But a lot of Pool C contenders ranked above them in RR
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Jim Dixon on May 02, 2017, 01:36:37 PM
Quote from: Pops33 on April 27, 2017, 01:03:35 PM
The first rankings were posted and it does not look like any surprises. Although, it has probably been a long while (if ever) that 3 out of the top 4 teams in the Regional Rankings were from the NCAC.  Not sure if they meant to put two teams at #5 or if that is a typo.

Mideast               
1.   Wooster      24-5      24-5
2.   La Roche      26-6      26-6
3.   DePauw      26-6      26-7
4.   Denison      23-8      23-8
5.   Adrian      23-8      24-8
5.   W & J      21-7      23-7
7.   Mt Union      25-7      25-7
8.   Otterbein      23-9      23-9
9.   Thomas More      22-7      22-7
10.   CWRU      21-14      21-14
11.   Marietta      16-12      16-12
12.   Kalamazoo      22-8      22-8
13.   Allegheny      20-12      20-12

CWR has a decent chance wit a couple more wins.  The bold teams are conference leaders and the four other teams above them might lose games and will still have the conference round that will hand out losses.  CWR could rise in the regional rankings because of this but the real competition is Emory with a Pool B bid.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on May 02, 2017, 04:15:18 PM
Are there two B spots? Wash U seems like a lock for B
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 03, 2017, 11:29:22 AM
Mount and W&J split yesterday in PA.  That basically changes nothing in terms of the rankings.  Too bad for Mount.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Jim Dixon on May 03, 2017, 01:40:31 PM
Quote from: ADL70 on May 02, 2017, 04:15:18 PM
Are there two B spots? Wash U seems like a lock for B
Yes two Pool B bids.  It is safe to say they are both going to the UAA.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on May 08, 2017, 02:35:03 AM
Would CWRU have to be considered a long shot at this point?
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Jim Dixon on May 08, 2017, 01:24:49 PM
Quote from: DagarmanSpartan on May 08, 2017, 02:35:03 AM
Would CWRU have to be considered a long shot at this point?

They need to root for favorites to win the conferences.  Any upsets just hurts their chances.  The best chance is to grab a pool B bid but if the committee drops pool B bids to one, that option goes away since Washington is the Pool B favorite.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 09, 2017, 10:33:00 AM
Just saw that Adrian hitting the 30 win mark again this year runs their streak to 10 straight years of 30+ wins.  That's impressive consistency.  I will admit that I didn't realize the MIAA plays a 28 game regular season schedule.  That doesn't leave a ton of room for OOC games.  I think the WIAC does something similar maybe.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: shknowsbest on May 10, 2017, 01:16:05 PM
Adrian Shortstop Ryan Dorow won the MIAA player of the year for the 3rd time this year.  He is something to watch.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on February 22, 2018, 06:09:09 PM
CWRU Preview

http://athletics.case.edu/sports/bsb/2017-18/releases/20180222huw8l4
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on March 03, 2018, 04:32:44 PM
In the season opener for each, CWRU beats W&J 7-2 in 11.  Killingstad got the win with three scoreless, one-hit innings in relief. Gross went 8, giving up one earned run on nine hits,

Spartans square off against Allegheny shortly and face each team again tomorrow.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on March 10, 2018, 04:26:45 PM
Second Saturday in a row, CWRU knocks off another Top 5 team, defeating #5 Cortland 3-2 in first game of spring trip in Lexington, SC.  Spartans again scheduled to face the Red Dragons on Monday.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on December 18, 2018, 11:19:03 AM
Posting here because UAA Board is dead.
CWRU Sched  https://athletics.case.edu/sports/bsb/2018-19/schedule

Open in Louisville with Spalding a team that RV last season once ranked #15

Other OOC play W&J, Marietta, Heidelberg, and Wooster,

Roster  https://athletics.case.edu/sports/bsb/2018-19/roster

Position players return pretty much intact. Only need to replace one starting pitcher and closer.

Incoming Frosh LHP Nick Denove was Naples Daily New Southwest Florida Sports Awards  baseball poy.

Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Jim Dixon on December 18, 2018, 12:21:46 PM
Quote from: ADL70 on December 18, 2018, 11:19:03 AM
Posting here because UAA Board is dead.
CWRU Sched  https://athletics.case.edu/sports/bsb/2018-19/schedule

Open in Louisville with Spalding a team that RV last season once ranked #15

Other OOC play W&J, Marietta, Heidelberg, and Wooster,

Roster  https://athletics.case.edu/sports/bsb/2018-19/roster

Position players return pretty much intact. Only need to replace one starting pitcher and closer.

Incoming Frosh LHP Nick Denove was Naples Daily New Southwest Florida Sports Awards  baseball poy.

Spalding is a great team to start with.  They have a record of being decent so they do not hurt your SOS, Spalding just lost AA Fleming so you will not get the All-American.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on December 18, 2018, 01:05:48 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on December 18, 2018, 12:21:46 PM
Quote from: ADL70 on December 18, 2018, 11:19:03 AM
Posting here because UAA Board is dead.
CWRU Sched  https://athletics.case.edu/sports/bsb/2018-19/schedule

Open in Louisville with Spalding a team that RV last season once ranked #15

Other OOC play W&J, Marietta, Heidelberg, and Wooster,

Roster  https://athletics.case.edu/sports/bsb/2018-19/roster

Position players return pretty much intact. Only need to replace one starting pitcher and closer.

Incoming Frosh LHP Nick Denove was Naples Daily New Southwest Florida Sports Awards  baseball poy.

Spalding is a great team to start with.  They have a record of being decent so they do not hurt your SOS, Spalding just lost AA Fleming so you will not get the All-American.

I overlooked WNE which went 1-2 in NCAA Regional last season.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 18, 2018, 01:49:54 PM
Quote from: ADL70 on December 18, 2018, 11:19:03 AM
Posting here because UAA Board is dead.
CWRU Sched  https://athletics.case.edu/sports/bsb/2018-19/schedule

Open in Louisville with Spalding a team that RV last season once ranked #15

Other OOC play W&J, Marietta, Heidelberg, and Wooster,

Roster  https://athletics.case.edu/sports/bsb/2018-19/roster

Position players return pretty much intact. Only need to replace one starting pitcher and closer.

Incoming Frosh LHP Nick Denove was Naples Daily New Southwest Florida Sports Awards  baseball poy.


String OOC opponents. I have lost track, Is the UAA still doing the tournament during the spring vacation trip? Or are they Doing a round robin? I had heard they were changing, however old age seems to be catching up with me.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on December 18, 2018, 01:55:20 PM
Round-Robin  Fr/Sa(2)/Su weather permitting of course.

This will be the second season CWRU has hosted a spring break Spartan Spring Classic in Lexington SC
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 18, 2018, 02:11:53 PM
Quote from: ADL70 on December 18, 2018, 01:55:20 PM
Round-Robin  Fr/Sa(2)/Su weather permitting of course.
So no end of year tournament?
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on December 18, 2018, 02:14:50 PM
Correct
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on December 18, 2018, 05:06:21 PM
Thanks, Go Case. Sad to see OWU is not on their schedule.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Pops33 on January 11, 2019, 04:20:13 PM
Congrats to the 9 players from the Mid-East Region schools that were named as Preseason All-Americans by D#Baseball.com.  Having 9 out of 42 selections come from the region (and from 8 different schools) show the great baseball that is being played in this section of the country:

Austin Parent, Pitt-Bradford
Rocco Maue, CWRU
Ryan Bixler, Franklin
Ben Beachy, Otterbein
Dan Harwood, Wooster
Mikey Rivera, Denison
Garrett Crum, Wooster
Dudley Taw, BW
Tre Thomas, LaRoche

Good luck to all and I hope yo all have great season.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on February 20, 2019, 10:12:53 AM
CWRU Preview

https://athletics.case.edu/sports/bsb/2018-19/releases/20190219ddfgho
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on February 23, 2019, 05:30:34 PM
CWRU drops opener 6-5 to Spalding in Louisville.  Spalding opened its season with a win over pre-season #2 Whitewater. Spartans faced the two pitchers who pitched against UWW.

DH scheduled tomorrow.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on March 28, 2019, 10:58:49 AM
CWRU finishes pre-conference play 12-6, winning 6 straight, and receiving votes (2) in poll.

That after digging themselves a hole losing three close games to Spaulding, a team with wins over current #2 Concordia-Chi (their only loss) and #22 Whitewater. Since then they've gone 12-3 with two wins over 9-5 St John Fisher (ARV) with wins over #11 Hopkins and JCU.

As a team Spartans are hitting .325 with 14 HRs from seven different players. Pitchers have combined 2.94 ERA. Middle reliever Scott Kutsche is 4-0 with a 0.42 ERA over 21-2/3 innings allowing Spartans to comeback in games when starters have faltered or bats have started slowly. However, Frosh Willem Bouma has won all three of his starts boasting a 1.42 ERA.

This weekend UAA play begins with #25 WashU coming to Cleveland for a four-game series.

Remaining non-conf slate includes: B-W, #8 Wooster (2), #24 Heidelberg, and John Carroll (ARV). 
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Pops33 on March 28, 2019, 11:45:26 AM
Pitching and defense seem to be the calling card for CWRU year in and year out.  Seems like they have it again this year.  If they have a strong hitting lineup to pair with it, then they are going to be tough to top.  As usual, they have a tough schedule and should be battle tested come end of the season.  Having 6 losses already, though, and playing the schedule they do, will make it tough to get to the 28-30 wins usually needed to get a Pool B or C bid.  Their fate is in their own hands (sorry, overly obvious statement) as the 4 teams you mentioned all have hopes for a Mid-East regional bid.  Englander definitely does a great job with the program.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on March 28, 2019, 02:59:11 PM
Englander is one win away from 300 wins.

NYU is 11-3, but their non-con schedule is usually pretty weak, they are 320th in SoS. Spartans travel there the following weekend.

Emory a surprising 7-10, but 36th SoS
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on March 30, 2019, 12:40:14 AM
Spartans' hole just got deeper, as they dropped a DH to WashU, 7-5 and 2-1. I just hope Cleveland weather let's them have two more games to hopefully even the series.

In the brief two-year history of the UAA round-robin CWRU has not lost a single series.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on April 08, 2019, 09:53:09 AM
Cleveland weather prevented the other two games with WashU being played. I wish there was some to make up those games, but I get that travel would make that difficult. Maybe the opening UAA series should be played in Atlanta and St. Louis.

Spartans got a mid-week win over B-W and this weekend swept four-game series from NYU, who came in with a 13-3 record. CWRU now  is 17-8 has fourth best SoS in D3 actually three teams at 0.599).  Next up four-game weekend series at 14-11 Emory 0.595 SoS)

Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on April 13, 2019, 09:53:05 PM
CWRU just dug its hole a little deeper.  After winning the opener 4-1 behind Levine and Kutschke, Spartans lost three straight to Emory with scores of 8-7, 13-3 (7), and 10-6. As those scores indicate, after those two pitching was not up to par. In addition the Spartans committed two errors in the final game which resulted in 6 unearned runs.

This week's schedule has a Thurs/Sun home and home with Wooster and a Saturday game vs. Berg.  Spartans have to win all three to keep post-season hopes alive.

Has anyone noticed that Hope is 22-1, but only getting 9 votes in the Poll?
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 13, 2019, 10:16:15 PM
Quote from: ADL70 on April 13, 2019, 09:53:05 PM
CWRU just dug its hole a little deeper.  After winning the opener 4-1 behind Levine and Kutschke, Spartans lost three straight to Emory with scores of 8-7, 13-3 (7), and 10-6. As those scores indicate, after those two pitching was not up to par. In addition the Spartans committed two errors in the final game which resulted in 6 unearned runs.

This week's schedule has a Thurs/Sun home and home with Wooster and a Saturday game vs. Berg.  Spartans have to win all three to keep post-season hopes alive.

Has anyone noticed that Hope is 22-1, but only getting 9 votes in the Poll?
Yes. Look at their schedule.  They could be 35-1 going into the Adrian series and still not be in the Top 25.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Pops33 on April 14, 2019, 08:48:33 AM
Hope's strength of schedule is currently #375 out of 392 teams https://www.d3baseball.com/seasons/2019/schedule?tmpl=sos-template.  You still have to be good to have that kind of record.  As Ralph implied, many voters are most likely waiting to see how they fare against Adrian before placing them in the top 25.  Unfortunately, that is their last series of the year.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on April 14, 2019, 09:16:06 AM
Quote from: Pops33 on April 14, 2019, 08:48:33 AM
Hope's strength of schedule is currently #375 out of 392 teams https://www.d3baseball.com/seasons/2019/schedule?tmpl=sos-template.  You still have to be good to have that kind of record.  As Ralph implied, many voters are most likely waiting to see how they fare against Adrian before placing them in the top 25.  Unfortunately, that is their last series of the year.

My thoughts exactly
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Jim Dixon on April 14, 2019, 02:12:48 PM
Quote from: Pops33 on April 14, 2019, 08:48:33 AM
Hope's strength of schedule is currently #375 out of 392 teams https://www.d3baseball.com/seasons/2019/schedule?tmpl=sos-template.  You still have to be good to have that kind of record.  As Ralph implied, many voters are most likely waiting to see how they fare against Adrian before placing them in the top 25.  Unfortunately, that is their last series of the year.

I think Hope will do well against Adrian as the wins will give them a confidence boost and the head game will be even between the two teams as Hope will be playing like they will win.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 14, 2019, 08:16:56 PM
Having followed the MIAA for more than a decade, the Adrian program has demonstrated that they are a perennial national power.

When the Regional Rankings come out, Hope should be in the Rankings, especially because of the winning percentage.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: D3baseballparent on April 15, 2019, 04:44:39 PM
I watched Adrian play down south and they are the real deal. If Hope can split with them, that 25-1 record looks really good.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on April 20, 2019, 05:49:33 PM
CWRU defeats Heidelberg 8-1

Spartans are now 5-5 against teams receiving Top 25 votes.  And have the highest SoS in D3.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: old scot on April 24, 2019, 07:01:45 PM
Woo has a big fall from being ranked #1 in the preseason.  6 ranking in the mid east region.  Need to pick up your game or win the NCAC Tourney Championship. A pool C may be out of the question. A lot of baseball still to be played with a big DH versus Denison this weekend
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on April 24, 2019, 09:08:45 PM
First RR

   Mideast   In-Division Record   Overall Record
1   Denison   27-3   27-3
2   Case Western Reserve   20-11   20-11
3   Heidelberg   22-10   22-10
4   Baldwin Wallace   20-9   20-9
5   Adrian   22-6   22-6
6   Wooster   18-8   18-8
7   Washington and Jefferson   21-8   22-9
8   La Roche   17-10   17-10
9   John Carroll   20-10   20-10
10   Rose-Hulman   20-9   20-9
11   DePauw   19-11   19-11
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 24, 2019, 11:08:00 PM
Quote from: ADL70 on April 24, 2019, 09:08:45 PM
First RR

   Mideast   In-Division Record   Overall Record
1   Denison   27-3   27-3
2   Case Western Reserve   20-11   20-11
3   Heidelberg   22-10   22-10
4   Baldwin Wallace   20-9   20-9
5   Adrian   22-6   22-6
6   Wooster   18-8   18-8
7   Washington and Jefferson   21-8   22-9
8   La Roche   17-10   17-10
9   John Carroll   20-10   20-10
10   Rose-Hulman   20-9   20-9
11   DePauw   19-11   19-11

Pool B in italics.

Teams in bold are not the highest ranked team in the conference in the regional ranking.

IMHO Case is in (either as a B or a C)
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Dr. Acula on April 24, 2019, 11:16:17 PM
Case has an impeccable SOS but I wouldn't say in as a C yet.  If they take care of business they should be though.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on April 25, 2019, 12:23:15 PM
CWRU is 9-5 vs RRO  They should do no worse than 3-1 vs Brandeis this weekend, if all 4 games are played. They have just one game left on sched with RRO JCU left after this weekend. But that game could be lost to OAC makeups.

WashU looks a lock for the first B at 26-5-1 with 2-0 vs CWRU

Whitewater (20-5) and LaCrosse (16-10 but 5-1 vs RRO) look to be CWRU's competition for the second B.  They have a 4-game series with one another this weekend. A split should help CWRU.

Hope had its bubble burst with two losses to Alma and one to Trine, neither of which have winning records.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on May 06, 2019, 02:42:46 PM
Out of curiosity, when are the tourney teams announced?
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on May 06, 2019, 06:41:10 PM
Playoff Central will answer your question


https://www.d3baseball.com/playoffs/2019/playoff-central
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on May 07, 2019, 10:55:43 AM
OK.  May 12th.  Got it!

CWRU was a bit up and down this year.  Let's hope our SOS is enough to get us in!
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Jim Dixon on May 07, 2019, 11:25:00 PM
Quote from: DagarmanSpartan on May 06, 2019, 02:42:46 PM
Out of curiosity, when are the tourney teams announced?

NCAA selection show noon eastern Monday 13 May .  We all get a good nights sleep for once.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: HupHolland on May 10, 2019, 05:19:45 PM
So I'm assuming Hope has no chance at the tournament now ?
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on May 10, 2019, 07:45:41 PM
They aren't even regionally ranked.  Their only hope was to win MIAA tourney which they didn't.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Jim Dixon on May 11, 2019, 05:32:13 PM
Quote from: ADL70 on May 10, 2019, 07:45:41 PM
They aren't even regionally ranked.  Their only hope was to win MIAA tourney which they didn't.

SOS counts for a lot in the rankings and Hope is pretty low.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on May 11, 2019, 06:49:27 PM
A plus and a minus for CWRU's Pool C hopes.  Denison wins NCAC bid so one less team ranked above them for Pool C.  But RR #2 Berg lost OAC to unranked Ott. Ott has an 8 game win streak so they get a bump for last 25% of season.  W/L % is .616 to CWRU .629.  CWRU is #3 SoS while Ott is #92. With 2 losses B-W should drop below CWRU in final RR.  Spartans should be second in ME queue for 16 Pool C spots.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on May 13, 2019, 12:27:37 PM
Wooster hosts - CWRU, Ott and Rochester

Adrian hosts - Denison, Berg, and LaRoche

W&J goes to Salisbury

BW to Concordia-Chi
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Pops33 on May 13, 2019, 12:38:49 PM
HCAC champ Franklin travels to Texas Lutheran.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on May 13, 2019, 01:35:07 PM
CWRU already beat Wooster this season, but the post-season is a whole new ballgame.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on May 13, 2019, 05:59:03 PM
Quote from: DagarmanSpartan on May 13, 2019, 01:35:07 PM
CWRU already beat Wooster this season, but the post-season is a whole new ballgame.

CWRU was able to start one of its top two pitchers who went five innings.  It was a staff outing for Wooster.  Pitching matchup should be more even in regional.

The game was a 21-10 slugfest with Spartans out-homering Scots 6-2. Wooster's field is on a hilltop and when the wind is blowing it can yield many homers. Wooster averaged 1.19 HR/G, CWRU 0.71, Otterbein 0.67, and Rochester 0.49.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 13, 2019, 09:02:16 PM
The homers per game is certainly skewed by Art Murray being a launching pad.  Woo has power but it's not that much of a disparity ceteris parabus.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on May 13, 2019, 10:41:44 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on May 13, 2019, 09:02:16 PM
The homers per game is certainly skewed by Art Murray being a launching pad.  Woo has power but it's not that much of a disparity ceteris parabus.

In 16 games at Art Murray Woo hit 33 HRs.  In 22 other games only 11.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 14, 2019, 01:30:36 AM
Quote from: ADL70 on May 13, 2019, 10:41:44 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on May 13, 2019, 09:02:16 PM
The homers per game is certainly skewed by Art Murray being a launching pad.  Woo has power but it's not that much of a disparity ceteris parabus.

In 16 games at Art Murray Woo hit 33 HRs.  In 22 other games only 11.
Wow!  A factor of 4!
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on May 14, 2019, 04:39:51 PM
ME preview needs correction.  CWRU didn't play Otterbein this season.  It's 7-2 win vs OAC team was B-W.

https://www.d3baseball.com/playoffs/2019/regional-preview
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 14, 2019, 04:58:10 PM
Quote from: ADL70 on May 14, 2019, 04:39:51 PM
Whoever put together the ME preview needs to see an optometrist.  CWRU didn't play Otterbein this season.  It's 7-2 win vs OAC team was B-W.

https://www.d3baseball.com/playoffs/2019/regional-preview

Or, ya know, you could nicely send a note to tell them of the mistake instead of going at this way.  I'm sure getting full previews out a day after the bracket was announced was pretty simple.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 14, 2019, 09:51:27 PM
At one point I wrote for a blog covering only OAC and NCAC and it was difficult just keeping two conferences straight.  Jim and the gang may slip up rarely but their national knowledge is admirable.  Mistakes happen especially in a condensed timeframe.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Jim Dixon on May 15, 2019, 02:34:42 PM
Quote from: ADL70 on May 14, 2019, 04:39:51 PM
ME preview needs correction.  CWRU didn't play Otterbein this season.  It's 7-2 win vs OAC team was B-W.

https://www.d3baseball.com/playoffs/2019/regional-preview

What was I thinking. 

Best matchup: All four opening games are worth the price of admission. I am looking forward to Case Western and Otterbein. Case went 2-0 against the OAC, with a 7-2 win over Baldwin-Wallace and a 8-1 win over Heidelberg. Two weeks ago Otterbein was in danger of hanging up their spikes for the season. Instead they made the conference tournament as the final seed and made the most of their opportunity and will be a tough contest for Case. The coaches made sure that the team was ready, putting together the fourth toughest schedule this season.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Billy Chapel on May 15, 2019, 03:52:50 PM
The new Regional/Super Regional set up is exciting. Curious how they determine the hosts for each Regional?
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: old scot on May 15, 2019, 08:04:23 PM
Ok. Someone needs to say this. Is Wooster worthy of being in the tourney. They don"t have many quality wins over mid east opponents. Bad loses in conference to Witt and Kenyon. They did go 3-2 against Denison.

Can't believe they made it, hosting, and number 1 seed. do you think they threw one to Pettorini.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on May 15, 2019, 11:46:22 PM
Quote from: old scot on May 15, 2019, 08:04:23 PM
Ok. Someone needs to say this. Is Wooster worthy of being in the tourney. They don"t have many quality wins over mid east opponents. Bad loses in conference to Witt and Kenyon. They did go 3-2 against Denison.

Can't believe they made it, hosting, and number 1 seed. do you think they threw one to Pettorini.

In terms of W/L the  Wooster pod is a bit weak.  Ott and Rochester are in by winning their conferences.  CWRU and Wooster had strong SoS.  Wooster's W/L % of .684 is best in the pod.

Every team in the Adrian pod has a better W/L% than Wooster. An argument could certainly be made that Denison and Adrian with W/L %s over .800 should have been the two #1 seeds in the ME SR. I think that I read somewhere that Denison did not apply to host, but is there a rule that the host must be the #1 seed?
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Pops33 on May 16, 2019, 08:29:41 AM
Denison's graduation is Saturday May 18th, so they most likely did not apply to host.  I believe that they are still the #1 seed at the Adrian Regional.  The selection committees have put emphasis on SoS for many years and they obviously rewarded both CWRU and Wooster for being #4 and #6 in the country in SoS.  Also, Wooster won the winner's bracket in the conference tourney and if they had pulled off one more victory, would they have been the overall #1 team in the Regional Rankings?  They ended up #3 behind both Denison and Heidelberg (https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/baseball/d3/regional-rankings).  If so, then they absolutely deserve to be in the tourney and host.  I think there are some nationally that like Pettorini and some that wouldn't hesitate to put the screws to him.  For instance, in 2015 they finished 36-9 and were not selected for regionals even though they had the #1 scoring offense in the country and had more wins than just about anyone else in the country.  They were told it was basically due to their SoS.  Lesson learned and now they are in, and beat the #1 team in the region 3 out of 5 times.

Regarding the regional pairings - as the d3baseball.com staff has already noted, it appears that the selection committee is keeping more teams in region this year.  With that being the case, in the Mideast Region, they also separated the conference foes.  Heidelberg is geographically closer to Adrian than Otterbein, and Wooster is hosting so Denison also went to Adrian.  Other than that if you are moving Rochester into the Mideast, they are much closer to Wooster.  The two left are LaRoche and Case, which are both closer to Wooster than Adrian.  Who knows the reasoning in this one unless you want the CWRU-Wooster matchup.  Also, LaRoche was in the Adrian regional last year so there is some familiarity.  The seedings based on the regional rankings are also a little off center with Adrian having the 1,2,4 and 8 ranked teams in the region and Wooster hosting the 3, 5, 9 from the Mideast and 8 ranked team from the New York region. 

What's done is done and I am ready for some great post-season baseball.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Billy Chapel on May 16, 2019, 09:04:43 AM
If Denison didn't want to host, that makes more sense. The Heidelberg v Wooster one still doesn't. They're ranked higher in the region, then ranked lower in the regionals. Hmm. Does sort of sound like they threw Coach P a going away bone there. Nonetheless, Wooster was certainly deserving of getting a bid. Side note, would have loved to see Baldwin Wallace and Danny Cody in one of these regionals.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Pops33 on May 16, 2019, 11:59:27 AM
Me too.  The OAC teams have seen him, of course, but it would be interesting to see the out-of conference matchups against other Mideast Region schools. 

The starter most likely going for Rochester threw a no hitter in the opening round of their conference tourney. So that could make things even more interesting.
Everyone has pretty good pitching and hitting at this point.  It usually boils down to whatever team gets hot at the right time.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 16, 2019, 01:34:42 PM
Quote from: old scot on May 15, 2019, 08:04:23 PM
Ok. Someone needs to say this. Is Wooster worthy of being in the tourney. They don"t have many quality wins over mid east opponents. Bad loses in conference to Witt and Kenyon. They did go 3-2 against Denison.

Can't believe they made it, hosting, and number 1 seed. do you think they threw one to Pettorini.

I'll bite.  I thought they absolutely should be in.  I thought the only way they'd host is if the 1 seed declined.  I thought that because I don't think they deserved a 1 seed.  And I definitely don't think they deserved the 1 seed in the "easier" regional.  If I'm being honest their draw is the draw I would have expected if they were 32-6 and won the NCAC tourney not 26-12 runners-up.  Is that throwing Coach P a softball on his way out?  I doubt that.  I think it's just how the chips fell.  I'm just happy our SR contains almost exclusively ME teams.  Lots of familiar names which makes it more fun IMO. 
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Jim Dixon on May 16, 2019, 01:46:11 PM
Well I am already on the record of having Wooster out of the playoffs.  We had Baldwin-Wallace blocking them.  I do not know how the NCAA went but when it came to comparing Baldwin-Wallace and Ramapo, there have hardly been two similar looking teams with Ramapo getting the slightest of an edge.  I expect the regional rankings we used were different than the ones the NCAA used which explains how Wooster and Baldwin-Wallace is in and Ramapo is not.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 17, 2019, 12:19:58 PM
Plenty of debate regarding Wooster but they sure didn't show anything to change the mind of those who didn't think they deserved a spot.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Pops33 on May 17, 2019, 12:42:57 PM
According to the announcers it was the dreaded soft tossing lefty that did them in.  Wooster certainly didn't instill confidence that the selection committee made the right choice.  Wooster's starter, Hill, and the reliever, Linde, pitched a heck of a game only allowing 2 runs, both on a 2 run HR in the 3rd inning.  Their offense definitely did not show up today.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on May 17, 2019, 01:16:46 PM
Speaking of pitchers, the announcers also said that Cards will again start Hoffman vs CWRU.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: old scot on May 17, 2019, 04:54:26 PM
Woo needs to come up big in the losers bracket. Don't think they have the pitching to make it all the way. Better get those bats hot to out slug the opponents. That is Pettorini's MO. We will try to beat you with offense.



Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: old scot on May 17, 2019, 05:00:01 PM
Jim Dixon and Jack Parkman. Kudo's to you. Don't think Woo was worthy of a bid. Time will tell.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Billy Chapel on May 17, 2019, 07:09:58 PM
Great to see the ME get off to such a great start today. BW, Franklin and WJ all getting big non-region wins on day 1. BW appears to have the arms to really make a run.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Billy Chapel on May 18, 2019, 06:52:03 PM
Wow. Just tuned in for the end of that Heidelberg vs Denison game. Denison lead off the bottom of the 9th with an HBP down 2-1, the HP umpire ruled it a foul ball?? Hate to see that.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: wooscotsfan on May 19, 2019, 10:33:00 PM
Wooster wins their Regional today by knocking off CWRU twice!  :)

Congrats to the Scots who rebounded from the opening 2-1 loss to Rochester on Friday by winning 4 games in a row to advance to the super-regional.

Wooster beat Otterbein 13-3 yesterday, also got revenge against Rochester 21-4 yesterday and today they advanced with 8-7 and 9-3 wins over CWRU.  Impressive performance today in the second game by Wooster senior Chandler Dippman who threw a complete game against CWRU and all this after throwing 45 pitches yesterday against Rochester before Coach Pettorini wisely pulled him with the big lead and that game essentially won.

Great to see Wooster rally in Coach Pettorini's last season to advance in the NCAA tourney.  I think the Scots proved that they belong in this tourney!  ;)

Good luck to Wooster, now 30-13, in the super-regional next weekend against Heidelberg who won the Adrian regional.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Ohio Baller on May 19, 2019, 11:12:23 PM
Quote from: old scot on May 17, 2019, 05:00:01 PM
Jim Dixon and Jack Parkman. Kudo's to you. Don't think Woo was worthy of a bid. Time will tell.
How does all that Crow taste Old (you lose the Scot name).  To not even list WOOSTER as a bubble team?  Latest example of an axe to grind against the Scots and how little credibility you have in this space.  Good luck with your super regional picks, make sure to spell Heidelberg correctly.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Pops33 on May 20, 2019, 08:42:00 AM
Congrats to the Fighting Scots definitely proving that they belonged!  Good coaching moves during the games on Saturday to get Faxon and Dippman out of the game early realizing that they could be needed on Sunday.  It was all made possible by the Scot offense which broke out early and often in both of Saturday's games.  The offense also showed up Sunday getting the Scots an early lead in both games.  Both Dippman and Faxon pitched fantastic on Sunday as well to secure the Regional title.

The series against Heidelberg should be a good one. 
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: old scot on May 20, 2019, 02:42:14 PM
Baller, Thinking you are part of the team. No need to insult those who questioned the Scots bid. They did not have a great regular season and losing 2 against Denison in the NCAC finials did nothing to prove they where dominate. Otherwise, congrats to coming back from the losers bracket ( or should I say the non winners bracket to be politically correct ). Did not think Woo had it in them. They showed they have some moxie.

Still have a ways to go to get to the WS and do some damage.

By the way, I like my crow with hot sauce. Go Scots
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Ohio Baller on May 20, 2019, 03:58:13 PM
The disrespect for failing to even mention Wooster in the projection is not an isolated incident Old.  Not part of the team just think it's a cheap shot to discredit this team's season/bid as some sort of lifetime achievement. 
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: old scot on May 20, 2019, 04:12:48 PM
Well ,they earned it. HOPE THEY CAN KEEP IT GOING.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 20, 2019, 04:25:45 PM
Quote from: Ohio Baller on May 20, 2019, 03:58:13 PM
The disrespect for failing to even mention Wooster in the projection is not an isolated incident Old.  Not part of the team just think it's a cheap shot to discredit this team's season/bid as some sort of lifetime achievement.

Not an isolated incident by Old Scot or the D3 staff that did the projection?
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 20, 2019, 05:07:58 PM
Quote from: Ohio Baller on May 19, 2019, 11:12:23 PM
Quote from: old scot on May 17, 2019, 05:00:01 PM
Jim Dixon and Jack Parkman. Kudo's to you. Don't think Woo was worthy of a bid. Time will tell.
How does all that Crow taste Old (you lose the Scot name).  To not even list WOOSTER as a bubble team?  Latest example of an axe to grind against the Scots and how little credibility you have in this space.  Good luck with your super regional picks, make sure to spell Heidelberg correctly.
For newbies on the message boards, Jim and his mock selection committee try to figure who the at-large bids will be, using the criteria in the Handbook.

https://www.d3baseball.com/playoffs/2019/2018-19D3MBA_PreChampsManual.pdf

However, the mock selection committee does not have the final regional rankings.

Some factors that would impact their thinking for awarding a Pool C bid would be:

Wooster was the 4th Pool C candidate in the 3rd regional rankings, behind Heidelberg, Baldwin-Wallace and CWRU. It is pretty uncommon for 25% of the Pool C bids to come from a region, outside New England, which has 20% of the teams in D3.
I am sure that Baldwin-Wallace had Wooster blocked from consideration (in the 3rd regional rankings that were available at the time of the mock selection) and Wooster was not "on the table".
Wooster went only 5-4 in the games in the final 25% of the season. (38 games to that point.) That is one of the criteria.
Did Franklin move into the Final Regional Ranking, knocking Wabash out?  If so, there were 3 Regional Ranked wins for Wooster erased from the crtieria.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Ohio Baller on May 20, 2019, 08:26:51 PM
Well it could not have occurred to the mock committee that B-W going 0-2 at home in its conference tourney might influence the real committee to move WOOSTER ahead of them?  Or Wooster's better overal record, maybe even the SOS (see handbook)?  My issue is not that you missed WOOSTER it's that the preseason #1, CWS participant from last year doesn't even get mentioned ( or even in the "bubble poll").  The CWRU, BW and Wooster proved they belonged.  Now about the Berg hosting the Super ...
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Billy Chapel on May 20, 2019, 11:22:55 PM
Didn't get to see any of the BW or Franklin games in their regionals but it seems they represented well! Always great to see ME teams go outside of region and perform the way they did.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: mr_b on May 21, 2019, 08:37:43 AM
Quote from: Billy Chapel on May 20, 2019, 11:22:55 PM
Didn't get to see any of the BW or Franklin games in their regionals but it seems they represented well! Always great to see ME teams go outside of region and perform the way they did.
I watched some of the BW-Concordia games on video and was impressed by how well the Yellow Jackets played.  They were very solid in all the fundamentals.  They gave Concordia Chicago -- another very good team that our team (North Park U) plays almost every year -- all they could handle and were a couple of plays away from moving on to the super regionals.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 21, 2019, 09:58:16 AM
Quote from: mr_b on May 21, 2019, 08:37:43 AM
Quote from: Billy Chapel on May 20, 2019, 11:22:55 PM
Didn't get to see any of the BW or Franklin games in their regionals but it seems they represented well! Always great to see ME teams go outside of region and perform the way they did.
I watched some of the BW-Concordia games on video and was impressed by how well the Yellow Jackets played.  They were very solid in all the fundamentals.  They gave Concordia Chicago -- another very good team that our team (North Park U) plays almost every year -- all they could handle and were a couple of plays away from moving on to the super regionals.

I watched their games.  BW played well.  That 10th inning loss stings because they just didn't execute and it cost them the game.  You walk the lead off guy in a tie game.  Get a strike out.  Then get a guy to roll one over to SS.  Unfortunately it wasn't hit very well and the SS didn't charge it hard and the kid just beat the throw to first.  That hurts getting the winning RISP on a routine grounder that you field cleanly.  Next guy hits a can of corn to RF.  Should have been in the dugout.  Instead pinch hitter lines a single over SS and it's over.  Very exciting game.  BW just came out on the wrong end this time.     
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Jim Dixon on May 21, 2019, 12:23:42 PM
Quote from: Ohio Baller on May 20, 2019, 08:26:51 PM
Well it could not have occurred to the mock committee that B-W going 0-2 at home in its conference tourney might influence the real committee to move WOOSTER ahead of them?  Or Wooster's better overal record, maybe even the SOS (see handbook)?  My issue is not that you missed WOOSTER it's that the preseason #1, CWS participant from last year doesn't even get mentioned ( or even in the "bubble poll").  The CWRU, BW and Wooster proved they belonged.  Now about the Berg hosting the Super ...


I dont quite recall why we had Wooster beneath Baldwin Wallace but with the final rankings have Wooster ahead of BW. Had we had Wooster that high in the regional rankings, I am sure they would have been selected by us.

About the poll, although we have have an unlimited number of options, it fits well in the space with four options and if you had BW in the poll, you would be looking for teams in other regions to make it more nationally focused.

Also rankings are not a selection criteria nor is their performance in the previous season. Nor is the expectation of success in the upcoming regional - I am sure there are other schools that would have done well if given the chance but I am not given the decision of not going to a full 64 team field :)
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 21, 2019, 05:03:25 PM
Quote from: Ohio Baller on May 20, 2019, 08:26:51 PM
Well it could not have occurred to the mock committee that B-W going 0-2 at home in its conference tourney might influence the real committee to move WOOSTER ahead of them?  Or Wooster's better overal record, maybe even the SOS (see handbook)?  My issue is not that you missed WOOSTER it's that the preseason #1, CWS participant from last year doesn't even get mentioned ( or even in the "bubble poll").  The CWRU, BW and Wooster proved they belonged. 

Yep, it occurred to us but we chose not to make that change.


Quote from: Ohio Baller on May 20, 2019, 08:26:51 PM

Now about the Berg hosting the Super ...

They were ranked higher in the regional rankings:
https://www.d3baseball.com/playoffs/2019/regional-rankings-final
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 24, 2019, 09:07:09 PM
Berg takes the opener 8-5.  This is gonna be an exciting super regional.  Both teams can hit and TBH I question if either staff can bottle the opposition up.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Dr. Acula on June 26, 2019, 12:32:00 PM
I saw on twitter that Adrian now has two former players playing in AA.  Ryan Dorow was just promoted joining Tommy Parsons who is already in AA.   
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on November 29, 2019, 12:30:10 PM
CWRU 2020 Roster. 14 first years.

https://athletics.case.edu/sports/bsb/2019-20/roster?sort=year
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on February 13, 2020, 02:00:54 PM
Mideast Preview: https://d3baseball.com/notables/2020/01/previews/mideast-preview

CWRU Preview: https://athletics.case.edu/sports/bsb/2019-20/releases/20200213f2cf2w
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Billy Brubaker on March 17, 2021, 09:36:05 AM
Happy St Patty's everyone! Long time reader, first time poster here. Excited to have D3 Baseball in Ohio  finally back! Fascinating year ahead with the NCAC & OAC being conf-only (w/ most being a 4 game series on the weekend) & the veteran rosters everybody appears to have given COVID. Any thoughts on the early favorites?
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on March 20, 2021, 09:34:30 AM
Quote from: Billy Brubaker on March 17, 2021, 09:36:05 AM
Happy St Patty’s everyone! Long time reader, first time poster here. Excited to have D3 Baseball in Ohio  finally back! Fascinating year ahead with the NCAC & OAC being conf-only (w/ most being a 4 game series on the weekend) & the veteran rosters everybody appears to have given COVID. Any thoughts on the early favorites?

CWRU has games scheduled with Hiram, Denison, Wittenberg, Ohio Wesleyan and Wooster. So NCAC is not conf-only.

2 at Denison today and 2 with Denison tomorrow in Cleveland.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Billy Brubaker on March 21, 2021, 08:43:38 AM
Good catch ADL70. Interesting that Wooster, Ohio Wesleyan and Denison have only 1 non-con opponent (Case) all year. Appears Case isn't able to play their normal UAA schedule... glad the NCAC could lend a hand so they could still have a season. Side note, these 4 game sets on the weekend will certainly be fun to follow as the season progresses.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 21, 2021, 11:16:52 AM
As much as it pains me to say I think Etta has to be an early favorite.  They are 6-0 and absolutely demolishing people.  Combined to date they've won 90-8 and have yet to score less than 10 runs in a game.  The grain of salt here is 4 of those games were against Cap who is not looking good early on.  I have to admit I usually undervalue Mount because of my bias, but even I raised an eyebrow when they beat Berg yesterday 8-0 and 16-4 in Tiffin.

In the NCAC I would have said Denison before the season, but Wooster is obviously right there and Witt has come out of the gate strong too.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Dr. Acula on March 21, 2021, 07:24:20 PM
Wooster, Denison and Etta all found out it's really hard to sweep a solid team in a 4 game weekend.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Billy Brubaker on March 22, 2021, 11:29:51 AM
The last few weekends of the regular season should be electric. Marietta/Mount square off that final weekend, as will Case and Wooster. Big time conference/regional fate/positioning on the line.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 04, 2021, 04:54:35 PM
Man, it's kind of feast or famine in the ME region this year.  Etta and W&J are way up there in the rankings and other than Adrian that's about it.  Mount received 1 single vote in this week's top 25 poll giving the OAC a grand total of 2 teams receiving a vote.  Meanwhile with Wooster dropping from #25 to receiving 2 votes the NCAC is nearly absent from the poll.  The story of the region has to be W&J darn near running the table to date (31-1).
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 05, 2021, 11:04:50 PM
Listen, I'm the last guy to champion Etta, but seeing them ranked #6 in the first regional rankings is absolutely ridiculous.  Frankly, it's embarrassing for those involved.  Mount is ranked #4.  Mount has BW and Etta left to play meaning...not only does Etta have a better record than Mount, they've also done it against a better schedule!
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Pops33 on May 07, 2021, 12:28:39 PM
Marietta's ranking probably has something to do with them having a strength of schedule of 346 out of 369 D3 teams that have played games this year.  I probably would have put them 4th, ahead of Mount (339 SOS) and Transylvania (264 SOS), as it is really hard to win 21 of 24 games against any D3 opponent.  On the other hand, Denison's SOS is currently 34, and Adrian is at 120, as of today, which is probably why they are ranked higher. 
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 07, 2021, 07:35:56 PM
Of course their SOS is bad.  When you only play conference games the teams with the best records are going to have the worst SOS.  That's just math.  If that's what they used to justify the vote that just feels a little lazy IMO.  But maybe without the comparison points of a bunch of OOC games for all the teams in the region it's all they have right now.  Personally, I would have slotted them:

1) Etta
2) Adrian
3) W&J
4) Denison
5) Mount
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Pops33 on May 10, 2021, 09:35:20 AM
C'mon, Doc.  Can't let math and logic get in the way of rankings!!! LOL.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 10, 2021, 09:57:40 PM
Quote from: Pops33 on May 10, 2021, 09:35:20 AM
C'mon, Doc.  Can't let math and logic get in the way of rankings!!! LOL.

Haha I know, I know...

This regular season finale between Etta and Mount should give us a better idea of things.  Mount just took 3 of 4 from BW after their split in Berea today.  Etta (3.09) and Mount (3.25) have by far the best team pitching numbers in the OAC so hopefully it'll be a good series.  ONU is next with a 4.79 team ERA.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on October 18, 2021, 03:20:06 PM
It appears that CWRU may have Wooster's ace Evan Faxon as a grad transfer.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Dr. Acula on October 20, 2021, 11:49:50 AM
Wow, that's a nice get for the Spartans.  Quality experienced arm?  Sure, why not! 

I'm very interested to see what rosters look like this year.  There will likely be a few more grad transfers.  And there are going to be some big roster numbers for some of these schools with all the COVID super seniors coming back in addition to the new class of recruits.  Schools like BW, Ott, Mount that normally carry large rosters might have silly roster numbers in the spring.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Dr. Acula on February 07, 2022, 05:51:23 PM
Looking at the preseason top 25 it looks like Etta is getting some serious love.  Mideast (or close enough for us to care about) ranked teams:

3.  Marietta
5.  Adrian
17. W&J
21. Denison

ORV:
37. Mount Union
41. Wooster
58. BW
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on February 10, 2022, 08:28:59 AM
https://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2022/02/previews/Region-7-preview
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Dr. Acula on February 11, 2022, 09:40:59 AM
Quote from: ADL70 on February 10, 2022, 08:28:59 AM
https://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2022/02/previews/Region-7-preview

The most depressing thing in the preview was reading that Carson transferred from Muskingum to Marietta.  Great news...the team that was 38-6 picked up a 1st team All-OAC OF who hit over .400 last year to go with their AA OF. 
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Jim Dixon on February 18, 2022, 08:17:04 AM
Brewer is all in for an other title at Marietta.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on February 21, 2022, 10:55:49 AM
CWRU Preview:  https://athletics.case.edu/sports/bsb/2021-22/releases/20220220m5cs8v

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm7iWRVQV6w
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on February 27, 2022, 08:08:04 AM
CWRU (RV) swept #17 W&J Saturday 5-1, 17-3 to open its season. W&J hardly played like a Top 25 team, committing 8 errors in the nightcap.

Today's DH at Mt Union postponed.

https://athletics.case.edu/sports/bsb/2021-22/releases/202202271qj0d8

Next up spring trip which features games against #19 NC Wesleyan and #2 Cortland (4). NCW (5-3) beat Cortland (4-1) 5-3 yesterday.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on March 01, 2022, 07:51:21 AM
Spartans and Purple Raiders scheduled for a single game at 2:30 ET today.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on March 01, 2022, 10:35:39 PM
Spartans prevail 6-4 in 10 cold rainy innings in Alliance  https://athletics.case.edu/sports/bsb/2021-22/releases/20220301rdl5ws

Spartans used 7 pitchers!

Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 04, 2023, 12:28:40 PM
We got our first set of true regional rankings yesterday:

1. Etta
2. BW
3. Denison
4. CWRU
5. ONU
6. Witt
7. W&J

I don't think this is particularly surprising aside from perhaps Etta and BW given BW swept Etta H2H.  But since this is ranking them by NCAA resume and not for the OAC tourney I understand Etta at the top.  Their SoS is #1 in the nation by a fairly comfortable margin over #2 BW.  Denison (6) is also top 10 in the nation in SoS. 

The remainder of the regional rankings also seem to trend along the line of SoS with a big gap between ONU (51) and Witt (163).
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: ADL70 on May 04, 2023, 04:28:46 PM
CWRU is #8 SoS

Split 2 games w/ Cortland #1 Reg III
Split 2 games w/Etta
Split 2 games w/W&J
1-0 v Denison
0-1 v BW
Split 4 games w/ WashU #5 R VIII

Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 04, 2023, 11:13:15 PM
IMO there's a gap between CWRU at 4 and ONU at 5.  The region is really strong right now overall.
Title: Re: Rank the Mideast Region
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on May 18, 2023, 04:57:16 PM
Well, CWRU plays Mary Washington on Friday at Marietta College, so apparently we did indeed get an at-large bid.