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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #5640 on: February 17, 2017, 03:08:07 am »
I guess for McDaniels and winning the CCIW POY, much depends on how she plays in that last title game on the 21st vs. IWU.  She had a truly terrible game vs. the Titans in the first game at The Shirk.  Should IWU win the regular season crown, you'd think some IWU player -- Ehresman or McGraw -- would garner some interest, with perhaps this making Eppard the winner.  Overall, I think Eppard has had the most outstanding season.  But, if you want to vote for the player that most got their team to the prize, then perhaps one of the Titans should be considered.  Yes, I have green glasses, well-known to all.  I take nothing away from McDaniels or Eppard.  Both are deserving, in my opinion.  Surely first team All-conference selections, along with Ehresman and McGraw.

Should WC get to the post-season, your advice Go Thunder, is good.  I think they need overall better defense too.  IMHO.  IWU wins on defense . . . and very efficient offense once the TO occurs.   

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #5641 on: February 17, 2017, 10:01:49 am »
IMHO:
Wheaton has not advanced in the playoffs the past few years due to their over willingness to throw up threes with reckless abandon.
I thought they had addressed it recently with the new emphasis on the inside game they looked like a top ten team that could play with anybody. 

The Milikin game saw a return of the  5-25.  This play will get them another one and done in the playoffs.

This team should be taking only 15-18 threes per game.  A statistical curve built like a basic cost analysis curve
(based upon chances of scoring more points in a game vs number of threes taken)
would show a slight ramp up to this point with a massive drop off occurring after 20.

To include only the good open shooters take these shots.

I hope we see a return of the inside cuts, dribble perpetration and good passing so this very talented team can reach its potential which in my opinion should be the skies the limit.


Overall, they’ve been pretty disciplined with their 3 pt shooting this season, averaging a little less than 18 attempts/game.   In fact, in the CCIW only Carroll has fewer attempts this season.  However, they’re an average 3pt shooting team at best so I would agree that going much over 20 attempts game wouldn’t suit them.  And you’re absolutely correct that they are at their best when they are backdoor cutting to the rim, getting easy baskets or going to the line.

In my opinion, their post-season success will really depend on their front-court play.  With Katie McDaniels, Chantal Meacham, and Kelly Lawson, their backcourt will hold their own with the best teams.  But the schools that make the post-season generally have pretty good size and front-court play.  UW River-Falls in last year’s first round was a good example as was UW-Oshkosh earlier this season.  In both games Wheaton got terribly out-rebounded by double digits.  I think Devin Kyler has steadily improved with her overall aggressiveness and level of play.  She’ll need some help from Jill Berg off the bench as well as the likes of Dansdill, Zeller, and Myroth on the boards.

I posted earlier this season that Coach Madsen and this team should be expecting to advance past the first round and even the first weekend.  Even if they win the CCIW tourney(not a given), a one and done performance in the NCAA, boasting a veteran team and a 1st team All American, will put a big ‘meh’ on the season, in my opinion.  I hope he will soon begin coaching towards that mentality for this team because I don’t sense that extra gear in them right now.  The blowout loss at Carthage should never have happened for a team ready to compete with the top squads in the country.  Tuesday will be a good test if they’re postseason ready.


PS IMHO: I not only believe McDaniels will win the POY in the CCIW but will be one of the few considered for the D3 WBB POY.

Agree that McDaniels should receive national consideration.  The young lady from Carnegie Mellon (Liz Murphy?) was having a big year last I checked a few weeks ago.  Averaging something like 25 and 13, and the team itself only had 2 or 3 losses.  At that time, I thought she was a strong candidate; probably still is right there.


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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #5642 on: February 17, 2017, 07:59:38 pm »
The Titans are ready for post-season play now.  They've been on a great run, playing very tough D and converting on offense quickly with a variety of weapons. Save for Holness, they are all healthy and fit and well-tested.  It should be a great match-up at WC on Tuesday, likely for all the regular season marbles.  Titans have to get past the NCC "system" at home first (senior night), but I think that is likely.  No let-up, no looking further ahead. 

I'm hoping for the CCIW tournament at The Shirk.

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #5643 on: February 18, 2017, 09:25:37 am »
Elmhurst has the bye today. Here are the prior results of today's rematches.
Wheaton 73, Carroll 43
Carthage 96, Millikin 80
Ill Wesleyan 118, North Central 113 OT
Augustana 88, North Park 85
These average out to 174 pts per game. I'll predict 140 per game average today.

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #5644 on: February 18, 2017, 10:26:09 am »
Elmhurst has the bye today. Here are the prior results of today's rematches.
Wheaton 73, Carroll 43
Carthage 96, Millikin 80
Ill Wesleyan 118, North Central 113 OT
Augustana 88, North Park 85
These average out to 174 pts per game. I'll predict 140 per game average today.

The first NCC-IWU game had both Mayson Whipple and Gabby Holness, so I doubt we'll see a combined 231 points tonight. It's a meaningless game anyways; the Cardinals are out, and the Titans can't make any inroads to the regular season title tonight. Same with Wheaton; it all comes down to Tuesday.

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #5645 on: February 18, 2017, 03:20:32 pm »
Elmhurst has the bye today. Here are the prior results of today's rematches.
Wheaton 73, Carroll 43
Carthage 96, Millikin 80
Ill Wesleyan 118, North Central 113 OT
Augustana 88, North Park 85
These average out to 174 pts per game. I'll predict 140 per game average today.

The first NCC-IWU game had both Mayson Whipple and Gabby Holness, so I doubt we'll see a combined 231 points tonight. It's a meaningless game anyways; the Cardinals are out, and the Titans can't make any inroads to the regular season title tonight. Same with Wheaton; it all comes down to Tuesday.

Slight correction:  It's meaningless for the conference implications.  But it's a critically needed win for IWU to stay in the Pool C que(should they need it).  They really can't afford to lose tonight.

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #5646 on: February 18, 2017, 05:51:45 pm »
Wheaton 103
Carroll 37

A lot of playing time spread around.  Meacham was the only player over 20 mins.

Congratulations to Katie McDaniels with her 304th and 305th career CCIW free throw which is a new conference record(Lindsay Ippel, Millikin).  She had 13 pts, 10 assists, 6 rebs in just 19 mins of play. 

Glad to see Kelly Thornton with a good game of 22 pts in just 14 min.  Her playing time has gone down significantly with Ellie Zeller’s return which is just one of those things.
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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #5647 on: February 18, 2017, 07:29:37 pm »
NCC and IWU tied 62-62 entering the 4th Q.  A ragged affair, more low-scoring than what we may have expected.  The Titans need this one.

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #5648 on: February 18, 2017, 07:59:29 pm »
Tough loss for the Titans.  The NCC "system" bites the IWU system tonight -- NCC winning 89-86.  Key was not the offensive system, though NCC did make a good percentage of threes tonight, but the NCC defensive pressure, giving the Titans trouble, esp. on inbounds plays.  That was the key to the game, IMHO.

Merritt 22
Ehresman 16
McGraw and Shanks 14

Both Ehresman and McGraw in foul trouble late.
Merritt and Shanks showing the strong future for the Titans.
Titans shot a poorer percentage than in recent outings. 

Tough loss on Senior Night.  But, NCC played hard and deserved the win, esp. given their defensive effort tonight.

Titans now 12-3, 17-7.  This loss surely not helpful for IWU's prospects for dancing in March. 

Still, a big game at Wheaton on Tuesday -- for the CCIW regular season championship and a season sweep of Wheaton.

WC winning very easily, as predicted, over Carroll tonight.

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #5649 on: February 18, 2017, 09:43:24 pm »
Saw the Vikings edge the Vikings 69-68. Substantial effort on both sides.
This game wrapped up the careers of North Park's seniors, Liz Rehberger, Amani Davis and Hannah Rehfeldt, each of whom contributed nicely this evening; they went out in fine style, even though on the short end of the score by a point. Hannah did her customary sharpshooting from distance, sinking 3 threes and also picked up 4 assists. Amani's performance was one of her best (at least of those I saw in person) : 8/13 FG for 16 pts, 2 steals, 3 blocks, 4 assists and 5 rebs. Liz was excellent, as we've grown accustomed to : 25 pts , 3 steals, 2 blocks, fine all-around play. She really had a superb NCAA WBB career. She would have played the full 40 minutes but suffered a bad ankle twist or sprain near the end of the contest. She was getting around gingerly after the game (walked up steps), so I think she'll be OK.
Shaylee Sloan (12 pts, 11 rebs) and Gabby Sandoval also played a lot and gave the NP cause very good effort.
For the victorious Augie who made the conference tournament with the win, Kaycee Kallenberger had 18 pts and 16 rebs; Jen VanWatermeulen made 4 threes, Izzy Anderson made key late FTs. Mikayla Fallon added 11 points. Many players that I haven't singled out did good work on both squads.

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #5650 on: February 18, 2017, 10:22:32 pm »
I see that Carroll's rotation was down to six players today. They must be on the tired side by now, and surely have their share of aches and pains. The fact that they've had to avoid foul trouble (pretty much above all else) has very likely had a negative impact on how they could defend and rebound. Next season, they should have depth and we may then see more of what they can become.
Millikin picked up a 67-66 win over visiting Carthage, thanks to a Lauren Moses FT with 2 seconds to go. She finished with 11 pts and 9 rebs. Yanni Saddler scored 18, while Emily Schultz added 14, plus 6 assists and 4 steals. Devin Curry scored 11, but missed a free throw for the 5th time this season, lowering her pct to .942 (81/86). Coach Kerans will have to sit her down and get to the bottom of this glaring imperfection. After all.
For the Lady Reds, Rachel Szydlowski had 16 pts, 10 rebs; Madie Kaelber scored 16; Morgan Harris led with 12 rebs and 7 assists, while Autumn Kalis added 10 pts.

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #5651 on: February 19, 2017, 02:15:16 am »
Thanks to Liz Rehberger and Amani Davis for four really strong years on the NPU squad, and to Hannah Rehfeldt as well for her three years as a Viking. As Rog said, their performances this afternoon were phenomenal, albeit just not enough as NPU lost a last-minute heartbreaker to Augie for the second time this year. But all three can hold their heads up high for the way that they played today. It's been a pleasure and a privilege to call their games over the past four seasons.
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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #5652 on: February 19, 2017, 08:22:56 pm »
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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #5653 on: February 19, 2017, 09:36:58 pm »
Thanks to all the IWU seniors for all their great play, hard work and strong dedication to the IWU program over the past years.  You guys all make the TITAN sports nation proud.  All best for future endeavors, post-IWU and post-basketball careers. 

Let's go win a piece of the regular season championship up at WC this Tuesday.  Go TITANS!

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #5654 on: February 20, 2017, 12:38:41 pm »
We may not have a Player of the Week today if the upcoming Tuesday action is included in the final such honor of the season. It may be revealed on Wednesday.