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Viking Mike

So....... if there any likely chance of a #9 or 10 reg ranked team (such as Augustana or Eau Claire) to move up into a more favorable position in the last 2 weeks, or is it usu just jockeying of the current top 8? 

In other words, do late season or conf tourney losses really hurt or cause any of the top 8 to drop out?


Greek Tragedy

NCC wins as Carthage looks like they completely shot themselves in the foot, looking at the PbP.
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Titan Q

Quote from: Viking Mike on February 19, 2020, 09:05:34 PM
So....... if there any likely chance of a #9 or 10 reg ranked team (such as Augustana or Eau Claire) to move up into a more favorable position in the last 2 weeks, or is it usu just jockeying of the current top 8? 

In other words, do late season or conf tourney losses really hurt or cause any of the top 8 to drop out?

Yes, absolutely.  Those rankings can swing pretty dramatically through the conference tournament title game.

iwu70

Great game, great finish in OT in Chicago, Peter Lambesis hitting the game-winning runner at the buzzer.

IWU 94 NPU 92.

IWU:
Leritz 28 and 11
Lambesis 12 and the key bucket, playing PG
Schumacher 18
Wallen 10

NPU:  Three players with a double double, amazing.

Sanders 22 and 10
Polk 21 and 12
Szuba 13 and 11
Merrick 18

A great game, to the end.

IWU needed the win, the luck, after last game with WC's banked buzzer beater from 40 feet. 

CCIW always close, always exciting.  Good call, Greg.  Tough loss for your guys.  IWU Down one week, up the next!

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Titan Q

IWU 94
North Park 92 (OT)

* Matt Leritz: 28 pts, 11 reb
* Keondre Schumacher: 18 pts
* Pete Lambesis: 12 pts, 4 reb, 5 assists
* Doug Wallen: 10 pts

* Izaiah Sanders: 22 pts, 10 reb
* Karl Polk Jr: 21 pts, 12 reb
* Toby Marek: 18 pts, 5 reb, 5 assists
* Matt Szuba: 13 pts, 11 reb

IWU once again could not close it out at the FT line and a banked Matt Szuba 3 sent the game to OT.

NPU took a 1-point led in OT with 0:29 to play.  Matt Leritz converted a traditional 3-point play with 14 secs to play to put IWU up 2.  Toby Marek scored with 7 secs to play to tied to game...and Pete Lambesis drove the length of the floor and hit a buzzer beating layup for the win.

In Rock Island, IWU looked so good down the stretch with the double point guard lineup (Wolfe, Yoder) - both such great ball-handlers and FT shooters.  Now the Titans are really a mess trying to close games out.

Gregory Sager

Overtime final from the crackerbox:

Illinois Wesleyan 94
North Park 92

Izaiah Sanders: 22 pts, 10 rebs
Karl Polk, Jr.: 21 pts, 12 rebs
Toby Marek: 18 pts, 5:2 a:to
Matt Szuba: 13 pts, 11 rebs, 6:1 a:to, 4 blks
Lawrence Pointer: 11 pts

Matt Leritz: 28 pts, 11 rebs, 3 stls
Keondre Schumacher: 18 pts (4-8 trey)
Peter Lambesis: 12 pts, 5:2 a:to
Doug Wallen: 10 pts
Charlie Bari: 6 rebs
Cody Mitchell: 6 rebs

This one seemed destined to go down to the wire in overtime, and it did. Alas, Illinois Wesleyan had the ball last, and Peter Lambesis made it pay off with a buzzer-beating layup for the win.

The Vikings did an absolutely phenomenal job on the boards tonight, outrebounding IWU by a 50-35 margin. Unfortunately, they negated it by turning over the ball twenty times -- half as many as Wesleyan had -- and most of them were of the unforced variety. Too much dribbling around with no intent led to ballhandling miscues aplenty.

The pivotal difference in Wesleyan's favor was Matt Leritz's work in the weight room, as he just had too much muscle underneath for the willowy Karl Polk, Jr. to handle. (The Vikings sure could've used the third member of their big-man triad tonight, Adam Bulwa, but he was not in uniform.) That, and some Francisesque shooting from the next precinct over by Keondre Schumacher, sparked the Titans. But Polk had a really solid game overall, outmuscling in the low post notwithstanding, and Izaiah Sanders and (especially) Matt Szuba really rose to the occasion tonight after inconsistent seasons. Toby Marek was quiet in the first half, but he really carried NPU down the stretch.

The Titans led by as many as a dozen in the second half, but NPU refused to roll over. It was an impressive display of pride and grit by a team that really had nothing to play for, against a team that is jockeying to land a CCIW tourney home game next Tuesday. I was heartened by how well the Vikings bounced back and kept contact time after time in this game. They just ran out of clock at the end of OT, that's all.

Nevertheless, great effort or not, this was a disappointing home finale to a disappointing season.
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Titan Q

IWU 6-7 sophomore Matt Leritz is developing into a very good player.  He's a really big, physical, skilled low post guy.

kiko

Quote from: Viking Mike on February 19, 2020, 02:33:30 PM
Ouch!.. Appears Augie just got buried in the regional rankings.  Those close non-conference losses to Oshkosh, Lacrosse, and Wash U early on in the year appear to be looming large in regard to 
            their NCAA tourney hopes.

I'm figuring 2-6 against RRO has them in 9th or 10th slot (behind Eau-Claire)

They have such a strong SOS and will likely finish 2nd in the CCIW.  How realistic is it that Augie gets an invite w/o winning the CCIW Tourney?  I'm thinking even 1 loss by any of the teams ahead of them won't be enough for the Vikings to jump ahead.

CCIW Tournament Champs or Bust?
           

The data sheet that the NCAA published shows Augie at 2-4 vRRO.  They will pick up two additional vRRO results (both losses) in the final ranking, plus whatever CCIW RROs they may play in the conference tournament.

The bad news is that the two teams entering the rankings that they'll get credit for playing are Oshkosh and Lacrosse, which means that WIAC schools they are jockeying for position with will gain multiple vRROs from these two entering the ranking.  (The WIAC hopefuls will lose whatever credit they are getting today for Eau Claire, assuming the BluGolds don't reenter the rankings, but will have a net-gain since one WIACer dropped out and two WIACers entered the rankings.)

As was suggested above, this will be quite fluid.  The more CCIW teams that scratch their way into the rankings next week, the more it will help Augie's resume.

lmitzel

Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 19, 2020, 09:49:14 PM
NCC wins as Carthage looks like they completely shot themselves in the foot, looking at the PbP.

The play by play doesn't do it justice. Hell, being there didn't do it justice.

That's far and away the craziest finish I've ever seen.
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Titan Q

NCC 13-2
Augustana 11-4
Elmhurst 11-5
IWU 10-5
Wheaton 9-6
Carthage 7-8
Carroll 4-11
North Park 2-13
Millikin 1-14

lmitzel

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Quote from: lmitzel on February 19, 2020, 10:16:31 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 19, 2020, 09:49:14 PM
NCC wins as Carthage looks like they completely shot themselves in the foot, looking at the PbP.

The play by play doesn't do it justice. Hell, being there didn't do it justice.

That's far and away the craziest finish I've ever seen.

So for those of you who didn't see the final sequence...

NCC trailed the entire second half (came into it down 35-33) and Carthage was seemingly in control, leading by as many as 11. They were up six with 25 seconds to go and four with 11 seconds left. Aiden Chang was fouled on a three attempt with 4.3 seconds to go, and made all three attempts to cut it to one. NCC fouled right off the inbounds, Kienan Baltimore missed the front end of a one-and-one, and North Central called timeout with three seconds left. Matt Cappelletti's full court heave was picked off by two Red Men... except they maybe got too caught up in the moment, and one shoved the other down to force a travel with 1.3 left. Connor tried a lob to Matt Cappelletti, who was fouled on the way up with 0.9, and calmly drained both for the final 70-69 margin.

I'd love to see a win expectancy chart. That was absurd.
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kiko

#52526
I'm not going to attempt to format the PBP, but will delete superfluous pieces and add (blue text) the stuff not listed.

North Central trails 68-62 with 25 seconds left as we pick up the feed.  Lucas can add to this as I'm sure there was more going on than what I could see on the video feed.

(Note to NCTV17 -- it's really time to look into adding replay capabilities to your broadcast.)

00:14      68 (+3)   North Central   65   GOOD 3PTR by CHANG,AIDEN
--               ASSIST by RARIDON,CONNOR
00:11               FOUL by RARIDON,CONNOR
00:11   GOOD FT by COOK,CRISHAWN   69 (+4)   Carthage   65   
00:11   MISS FT by COOK,CRISHAWN            
--               REBOUND DEF by CAPPELLETTI,MATT

Cook -- who played fantastic all night (14, 8 and 8) makes the first and keeps this a two-possession game with 11 seconds left.  But he missed the second and kept Carthage's win probability in the 99.998% range rather than 99.999%


00:04   FOUL by BALTIMORE,KIENAN            

Baltimore fouls Chang on a contested three attempt from the left wing.  The shot almost went in, but the opportunity would be for a three- rather than a four-point play.


00:04      69 (+3)   North Central   66   GOOD FT by CHANG,AIDEN
00:04      69 (+2)   North Central   67   GOOD FT by CHANG,AIDEN
00:04               TIMEOUT TEAM by TEAM
00:04      69 (+1)   North Central   68   GOOD FT by CHANG,AIDEN
00:04   TIMEOUT TEAM by TEAM            
00:03               FOUL by CAPPELLETTI,MATT

Chang hits all three FTs to cut it to one.  Cappelletti immediately fouls Baltimore on the inbound pass.


00:03   MISS FT by BALTIMORE,KIENAN            
--               REBOUND DEF by CAPPELLETTI,MATT

Baltimore misses the front end of a 1-and-1.  Cappelletti had indicated to the nearest ref prior to the shot that he would call timeout immediately if the rebound came to him.  It bounced high and left off the rim, right to Cappelletti.


00:03               TIMEOUT TEAM by TEAM
00:03               TURNOVER by CAPPELLETTI,MATT
00:02   STEAL by COOK,CRISHAWN            
00:01   TURNOVER by COOK,CRISHAWN            

The sequence above is where it starts to get weird.  North Central is inbounding under the Carthage basket, and elects to use a baseball pass rather than dribble it up the floor.  So everyone other than Cappelletti (inbounder) is on the other half of the court.  This is ill-advised IMO but Todd Raridon has won about 1,000,000 more games than I have, so what do I know.

Cook easily picks off the pass, but when he lands, he bumps a teammate and travels.  Two seconds run off the clock.  Never seen this happen before, but it was an obvious travel given the amount of movement with possession of the ball after the bump.


00:01   FOUL by BULATOVIC,FILLIP            

For the above foul, North Central is now inbounding from inside their half of the floor, from the right side of the floor opposite the benches.  They attempt a lob to Cappelletti just to the left of the lane.  He is moving away from the basket with his leap to snare the pass and basically had zero chance to be in position to catch and shoot based on his trajectory, but Bulatovic bodied him contesting the pass and was called for the foul.  (His fifth after a 15-and-5 night off the bench.)

The next two were nothing but net.  Carthage had 0.9 on the clock, and attempted a similar baseball-style pass in the hopes of getting a catch-and-shoot, but the pass went off Baltimore and the Cardinals inexplicably escaped in a game they had basically no business winning.


00:01      69   North Central   69   GOOD FT by CAPPELLETTI,MATT
00:01      69   North Central   70 (+1)   GOOD FT by CAPPELLETTI,MATT
00:01   TIMEOUT TEAM by TEAM (Carthage)            
00:01               TIMEOUT TEAM by TEAM (North Central)
00:00   TURNOVER by LAKETA,PRESTON   

iwu70

Every kind of wild finish this year.  Bizarre.

'70

voxelmhurst

Elmhurst finishes the regular season 20-5. John Baines has coached the Bluejays to 3 separate 20+ win seasons in just 7 years. To put that in perspective, the only other Elmhurst men's head coach to accomplish this was Mark Scherer, who had 17 seasons at the helm. Additionally this is just the 4th time in the history of the men's program that the Jays have finished with 11 or more conference wins.

John Baines won't win CCIW Coach of the Year, but us EC fans are very happy to have him.

Gregory Sager

Quote from: Titan Q on February 19, 2020, 10:03:20 PM
IWU once again could not close it out at the FT line and a banked Matt Szuba 3 sent the game to OT.

... and Keondre Schumacher hit a running 60-footer at the buzzer to end the first half. Call it a wash.
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