MBB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

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Gregory Sager

Good point, Smitty. OK, so four out of the five D3 leagues with multiple Wisconsin members are in the Central Region, not the West Region.

When you tally them up, 21 of the 23 D3 schools that have men's basketball programs are in the Central Region.
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OxyBob

Welcome to the SCIAC board, AlltheKINGSmen99. Thanks for giving one of the board's resident didactic pedants Gregory Sager the chance to come in here, pick apart your post and blah blah blah for awhile.

Meanwhile, Oxy and Pomona played for the SCIAC tournament championship and the conference AQ for the NCAA tournament. It did not go well for Oxy, as the Sagehens powered their way to a convincing 68-45 victory. It's Pomona's first SCIAC championship since 2008. Congratulations to Coach Kat and the Sagehens.

Oxy got off to a fast start and led 16-2, but Pomona got it going and cut Oxy's lead to 20-13 with 6 minutes left in the first half. The Tigers then went into a deep offensive freeze. Pomona outscored the Tigers 18-2 and led 31-22 at halftime. Pomona didn't let up in the second half and pulled away for an easy win.

For Oxy, Caleb Yellin-Flaherty scored 11, and Ryan Kaneshiro had 10. Senior starters Austin DeWitz and Zach Baines finished their stellar Oxy careers. Thanks, Austin and Zach, it was a pleasure to watch you play. You will be dearly missed.

For Pomona, Micah Elan scored 21, Daniel Rosenbaum had 14, and Alex Preston had 12.

Oxy finishes 22-5. Pomona is 25-2. If the usual pattern holds then Pomona will likely travel to Walla Walla to face NWC champ Whitman in the first round of the NCAA tournament. Whitman is 26-1, its only loss coming to Pomona 112-109 in double overtime last November. Good luck to the Sagehens. Bring one home for the SCIAC!

OxyBob




(509)Rat

Our didactic pedants will have to answer but could no Whitworth mean Whitman gets a first round bye with a SCIAC v TX first round winner getting shipped up to Walla Walla?

Gregory Sager

Quote from: OxyBob on February 24, 2019, 11:08:41 AM
Welcome to the SCIAC board, AlltheKINGSmen99. Thanks for giving one of the board's resident didactic pedants Gregory Sager the chance to come in here, pick apart your post and blah blah blah for awhile.

"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: (509)Rat on February 24, 2019, 01:31:07 PM
Our didactic pedants will have to answer but could no Whitworth mean Whitman gets a first round bye with a SCIAC v TX first round winner getting shipped up to Walla Walla?

There are no byes in men's basketball ... and it has been several years since we had byes.
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greg21grimm

Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 23, 2019, 10:08:56 PM
Quote from: AlltheKINGSmen99 on February 23, 2019, 04:44:31 PM
There is no example of East Coast bias more evident than in NCAA D3 basketball.

There is no "East Coast bias" in NCAA D3 basketball.

Quote from: AlltheKINGSmen99 on February 23, 2019, 04:44:31 PM
Budgets for most D3's are limited. The ability to play other D3's from the West Coast is limited.

The two West Coast leagues are on geographical islands. There's nothing that anybody can do about that. Bu there are ways around that in order to lessen the weak SOS racked up by West Coast teams. The SCIAC and NWC play plenty of crossovers already; the serious SCIAC and NWC programs need to try to schedule each other more often in order to boost their SOS. There are large tournaments held in Vegas and Phoenix over the holidays; plenty of opportunities there to pick up games against good teams from the East Coast and the midwest. And every SCIAC program should be hosting a tourney if at all possible in order to attract snowbirds. CLU got a big SOS boost from hosting Whitman, UWSP, and Illinois Wesleyan this season in their tourney, although the Kingsmen didn't do well enough within their own circuit to make use of it.

Quote from: AlltheKINGSmen99 on February 23, 2019, 04:44:31 PMThe NCAA some how considers Wisconsin part of the West Region.

No, it doesn't. The WIAC is in the Central Region. The MWC is in the Central Region. The CCIW is in the Central Region And the NACC is in the Central Region. Those are the four leagues that have multiple Wisconsin member schools. The only Cheesehead institution that's in the West Region is UW-Superior, which is a member of the Minnesota-dominated UMAC.

Quote from: AlltheKINGSmen99 on February 23, 2019, 04:44:31 PMWest Coast D3 never has a chance at multiple bids unless it is a rare year.

Not true. The NWC has had two teams in the tourney in each of the past three seasons.

Quote from: AlltheKINGSmen99 on February 23, 2019, 04:44:31 PMPP and Oxy are both tournament teams.

We'll find that out if that's true on Monday morning.

You forgot one......

Quote from: AlltheKINGSmen99 on February 21, 2019, 07:22:50 PM
They 100% made the wrong hire but would keeping Rider's assistant have been any different? Maybe a few games here and there but they wouldn't be in the conference tournament with him either.

2016-17 they maybe won 20 games, they may have been 2nd in SCIAC by only one game, the may have been ranked in the region....oh, and they may have not only played in the conference tournament, they played for the championship.

D O.C.


Gregory Sager

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 25, 2019, 12:08:52 AM
Quote from: (509)Rat on February 24, 2019, 01:31:07 PM
Our didactic pedants will have to answer but could no Whitworth mean Whitman gets a first round bye with a SCIAC v TX first round winner getting shipped up to Walla Walla?

There are no byes in men's basketball ... and it has been several years since we had byes.

This will be the third straight tournament with a bye-free, 64-team field. Barring some unforeseen exodus from D3 or some drastic NCAA spending cut, full 64-team fields for the tournament will be a permanent feature.

(Hey, we didactic pedants have to stick together. ;))

Quote from: D O.C. on February 25, 2019, 01:59:47 AM
That OxyBob    ;D

"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

stag44

PP heading up to Walla Walla and playing UT Dallas in the first round. Winner plays Whitman/TLU winner.

Should be a good pod and if both PP and Whitman win, the rematch should be great.


(509)Rat

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 25, 2019, 12:08:52 AM
Quote from: (509)Rat on February 24, 2019, 01:31:07 PM
Our didactic pedants will have to answer but could no Whitworth mean Whitman gets a first round bye with a SCIAC v TX first round winner getting shipped up to Walla Walla?

There are no byes in men's basketball ... and it has been several years since we had byes.

I thought I had seen one recently, obviously not. That's what you guys are here for, though...

Gregory Sager

Quote from: (509)Rat on February 25, 2019, 02:51:34 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 25, 2019, 12:08:52 AM
Quote from: (509)Rat on February 24, 2019, 01:31:07 PM
Our didactic pedants will have to answer but could no Whitworth mean Whitman gets a first round bye with a SCIAC v TX first round winner getting shipped up to Walla Walla?

There are no byes in men's basketball ... and it has been several years since we had byes.

I thought I had seen one recently, obviously not. That's what you guys are here for, though...

Well, that and to give OxyBob the hots with our matronly looks and our 1950s-era print dresses.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

AlltheKINGSmen99


You forgot one......

Quote from: AlltheKINGSmen99 on February 21, 2019, 07:22:50 PM
They 100% made the wrong hire but would keeping Rider's assistant have been any different? Maybe a few games here and there but they wouldn't be in the conference tournament with him either.

2016-17 they maybe won 20 games, they may have been 2nd in SCIAC by only one game, the may have been ranked in the region....oh, and they may have not only played in the conference tournament, they played for the championship.
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RIder's staff had a full year to interview. Their local recruiting was abysmal, their overall record was mediocre. One year of ALMOST making the tournament should have gotten them the job? They routinely had top talent and routinely missed the tournament. The conference tournament should have saved them. Consistent top 4 finishes then win 2 games in 2 days. Yet it never did save them. They couldn't get over the hump. Isn't it possible the admin viewed another near miss as just more of the same?

D O.C.


Smitty Oom

Dan Rosenbaum is very smooth. fun player to watch.

Also an interesting tidbit from the Whitman announcer, Greg Pop was the last Sagehens Head Coach!