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West Region football / Re: FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« Last post by Toby Taff on Yesterday at 11:53:08 pm »
WW- Do you feel people are “failures” if they don’t accomplish a goal? This is a serious question, not trying to be snarky.

If my daughter sets her goal for the lead role in a play or my son sets his goal as a certain score on his LSAT, are both failures if they come up short?

I don't. That's my point. Besides, a D3 football team should have a lot of goals, including many that have little to do with what they do on the field.

WW, I really do try to understand you. I'm missing your point and I'm sorry if I'm slow on the uptake.

My position is simple. I believe it is good for the UWW administration to publicly declare their goal is to win the national championship- AND I'm also saying if the team falls short of that goal, neither the program nor the players are failures.

Yes, the program can have lots of goals.

I think we’re on 2 of 3 possible same pages. But I don’t think administration needs to go there, nor should it. Football program people? Hell yeah. And they do.

By the way, administration is in the news plenty lately, for those who think the media ignores Whitewater

At first I was reluctant to include administration, but I think there are important reasons to include it. Without administration support, big team/program goals will be hard to achieve.
Here’s another reason administration may want to get on board (I have no proof there is causation), from the Gazette:

Last year, UW-W saw its first enrollment drop after years of increases. Before the start of the 2017-18 school year, UW-W had seen record enrollment seven times in the previous eight years.

Now, the campus in Whitewater has seen two consecutive years of lower enrollment.
I'm an alumnus of UMHB and the father of 2 UMHB students. During the parent side of freshman orientation we were told a few things to bank on. 1) tuition would go up every year (not my favorite thing to hear) 2.80% of students would receive significant financial aid 3. athletics would be taken seriously. The goal in starting football program wasn't to have a money pit. If we were going to participate, we were going whole hog. The same goes for all sports. Coaches are hired and students recruited for the purpose of putting their best foot forward and winning. The school has other goals of course, but the intent for excellence is stated from very top of the administration.
And the safe rooms...
Great Lakes Region / Re: MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Last post by sac on Yesterday at 11:32:32 pm »
Hope 92  LaRoche 87

Heck of a good game at DeVos tonight.  Terrific team 3-point shooting by both squads.  LaRoche 12-22, Hope 9-12.  Hope really gutted out a tough win and I'm still not quite sure how they held LaRoche scoreless in the last 3:38 and scored the last 14 points of the game, but they did.  LaRoche had a chance to potentially win it but Chris Ray rejected what would have been a pretty close baseline jumper with 5 seconds left.

Lewis 28, Beckman 19, Granger 18, Towns 12, Ray 9

I'll reiterate what I said on twitter I think this is exactly the kind of match-up and game the Great Lakes Invitational was intended to produce.   

Multi-Regional Topics / Re: Top 25 talk
« Last post by Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on Yesterday at 11:26:05 pm »
If anyone is interested or cares, my ballots so far this season:
Central Region / Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Last post by RogK on Yesterday at 11:19:15 pm »
Millikin 88-79 over Eureka. All ten starters scored in double figures.
For Millikin : 10 pts and 8 assists by Aubrey Magro, 11 pts and 5 rebs by Jordan Hildebrand, 12 pts 5 steals and 6 rebs by Briana Anthony, 21 pts 7 rebs and 3 steals by Aubrey Staton.
Then we come to Yanni Saddler; all she did was pour in 29 pts, adding 5 rebs, 3 assists, 4 steals and a lone turnover. Not bad, eh? Eh.
Great Lakes Region / Re: MBB: Ohio Athletic Conference
« Last post by Fifth and Putnam on Yesterday at 10:52:40 pm »
Otterbein 81
John Carroll 79

The Cards pick up their first conference win of the year while the Streaks fall to 2-3 in OAC play.

One of the more head scratching results I've seen in a while. Otterbein's first regular season win AT JCU since 2002 (that was a special year). What in the world is going on in University Heights?
East Region football / Re: FB: New England Small College Athletic Conference
« Last post by lumbercat on Yesterday at 10:18:52 pm »
McCrum played well in  Jayvee games at Lafayette and adapted well in that system.  His progress took place before a total coaching and program flush. He was #2 on the Spring depth chart at one point but the new HC had his own guys.

When he got to Bowdoin there was some concern as camp progressed with his throwing mechanics which sent the Bears staff for a loop in pre season. Stalcup was back in play as a QB.

Believe it was Michaeles charge to work closely with the kid as QB coach. After the kid threw a number of INTS it looked like he was trying to aim it or steer it.....watching the kid you wanted to tell him to just let let it rip and don't worry about the outcome but thats easier said than done.

The new HC will be bringing in his own OC to work with McCrum. He will be very good with the right tutelage.
Last year enrollment in the 13 Wisconsin university system schools dropped 22.3%.  Enrollment has been declining since 2010 so the fact WHITEWATER was actually able to grow during that period is the exception, not the rule.  This is part due to changing demographics and a lower birth rate.  But I seriously doubt any of it is due to the administration publicly declaring a national championship as the goal.
I love how the year before factors in to the following year playoff seeding! I guess each year isn’t a new year.

Since 2010.
Initially the primary goal is to win the conference championship because it is the only way to guarantee that you have the opportunity to compete for a national title.  First things first. 
Whether it's stated or not we're recruiting to play for national championships. 
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