BB: General West Region Discussion

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JohnnyU

Thru 2/27.


Team   Conf         Win%         Rwin%
Texas-Tyler   ASC   11   0   1.000   9   0   1.000
Trinity (Texas)   SCAC   11   1   0.917   11   0   1.000
George Fox   NWC   9   1   0.900   4   0   1.000
Linfield   NWC   6   3   0.667   4   0   1.000
Pomona-Pitzer   SCIAC   12   2   0.857   12   2   0.857
Redlands   SCIAC   7   3   0.700   6   2   0.750
Texas Lutheran   ASC   7   4   0.636   6   2   0.750
University of Dallas   IND   7   2   0.778   4   2   0.667
Louisiana College   ASC   9   4   0.692   2   1   0.667
Chapman   IND   7   4   0.636   7   4   0.636
La Verne   SCIAC   7   6   0.538   7   4   0.636
Hardin-Simmons   ASC   7   3   0.700   5   3   0.625
Concordia (Texas)   ASC   6   4   0.600   6   4   0.600
Texas-Dallas   ASC   7   3   0.700   4   3   0.571
Pacific   NWC   7   3   0.700   3   3   0.500
Willamette   NWC   5   3   0.625   2   2   0.500
Whitworth   NWC   4   4   0.500   4   4   0.500
Occidental   SCIAC   5   6   0.455   4   4   0.500
LeTourneau   ASC   6   5   0.545   3   4   0.429
Southwestern   SCAC   4   6   0.400   4   6   0.400
Puget Sound   NWC   2   3   0.400   2   3   0.400
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps   SCIAC   4   8   0.333   4   6   0.400
Cal Lutheran   SCIAC   4   6   0.400   3   5   0.375
Mary Hardin-Baylor   ASC   3   6   0.333   3   5   0.375
Sul Ross State   ASC   5   6   0.455   3   6   0.333
Mississippi College   ASC   3   5   0.375   2   4   0.333
Whittier   SCIAC   4   7   0.364   3   6   0.333
Hendrix   SCAC   3   7   0.300   3   6   0.333
Pacific Lutheran   NWC   4   5   0.444   1   4   0.200
University of the Ozarks   ASC   3   10   0.231   1   4   0.200
East Texas Baptist   ASC   3   6   0.333   1   5   0.167
McMurry   ASC   2   7   0.222   1   6   0.143
Austin   SCAC   2   8   0.200   1   6   0.143
Lewis and Clark   NWC   1   7   0.125   1   6   0.143
Caltech   SCIAC   1   8   0.111   1   6   0.143
Whitman   NWC   1   10   0.091   1   6   0.143
Howard Payne   ASC   3   5   0.389   0   4   0.000
Schreiner   ASC   0   6   0.000   0   6   0.000

BigPoppa

Great work!

... and just like that Chapman is back in the mix.
Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.

CrashDavisD3

Quote from: BigPoppa on February 28, 2011, 09:32:56 PM
Great work!

... and just like that Chapman is back in the mix.
6 consecutive wins and outscoring opponents 52-12 during these wins helps a littlle if the wish to make the playoffs for the 9th consecutive year and 13 of the last 14 years. Hopefully the adjustments have been made and they continue to play well.
With a smaller Pool B pool, Chapman can not afford any extended losing streak in region or overall.
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

CrashDavisD3

#78
These West Region top 25 teams have in recent years have in the past showed up at the Regional Playoffs. Never seems to be any new teams that show up year after year.  ???

March 1, 2011
D3baseball.com/NCBWA Top 25 Week 1

Through games of Sunday, Feb. 27:
#    School (1st votes)    Rec    Pts    Prev.
1    Heidelberg (18)    0-0    6-7    1
2    Kean (3)                    4-0    577    3
3    UW-Stevens Point (3)    0-0    558    2
4    Shenandoah           7-0    518   7
5    UW-Whitewater   0-0    460   5
6    Johns Hopkins   0-0    433   6
7    Pomona-Pitzer   12-2    419   18
8    Marietta              3-0    415   12
9    Linfield             6-3    402   8
10    St. Thomas   0-0    350   10
11    Texas-Tyler   11-0    342   22
12    Trinity (Texas)   11-1    333   20

13    Illinois Wesleyan (1)    0-0    327    9
14    Mass-Boston   0-0    258   13
15    Tufts      0-0    229   14
16    Cortland State   1-3    216   4
17    Chapman   7-4    207   11
18    St. Scholastica   0-0    206   16
19    Wooster   0-0    190   17
20    Wheaton (Mass.)   0-0    180   19
21    Keystone   0-0    147   21
22    Mary Washington   9-1    103   -
23    Salisbury   3-2    69   23
24    George Fox   9-1    56
25    Christopher Newport   9-1    66   -

Dropped Out: No. 15 Mississippi College, No. 24 Eastern Connecticut, No. 25 Plattsburgh State.

Also receiving votes: Rowan 53, Plattsburgh State 48, Eastern Connecticut 40, Mississippi College 31, Wesley 26, Millsaps 26, UW-Oshkosh 24, North Central (Ill.) 23, St. Joseph's (Maine) 20, St. John Fisher 18, Endicott 18, Penn State-Behrend 16, North Park 15, Carthage 13, Webster 10, Ripon 10, Rose-Hulman 8, Texas Lutheran 7, Augustana 7, Western New England 6, Buena Vista 6, Piedmont 5, Redlands 5, Moravian 4, Huntingdon 3, Hampden-Sydney 2, Thomas More 2, Texas-Dallas 2.

The D3baseball.com Top 25 is voted on by a panel of 25 coaches, Sports Information Directors and media members from across the country, and is published weekly. Full members of NCAA Division III are eligible.
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

tigerfan_2001

that is a lot of West teams represented....

CrashDavisD3

Quote from: tigerfan_2001 on March 02, 2011, 09:40:55 AM
that is a lot of West teams represented....

And the West only gets 6 teams  ??? in the playoffs each year...I believe the West should ship 2 teams to other regions and have a least 8 teams in the playoffs each year. In a perfect world in a 6 team West Regional it would be

SCIAC #1 and #2
NWC #1 and #2
ASC#1
POOL B or Pool C

SCAC#2 and ASC#2 could easily be shipped to another region and both would do well.
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

Tarheel0550

I wouldnt get so excited about all the west teams represented yet.Baseball in the east hasnt really even started yet especially in the northeast where some of the better D3 teams play.Thats not a knock against any of the west teams.Im just saying the season has not even really gotten started in the east ,so let things get going before celebrating.

tigerfan_2001

Quote from: Tarheel0550 on March 02, 2011, 11:10:23 AM
I wouldnt get so excited about all the west teams represented yet.Baseball in the east hasnt really even started yet especially in the northeast where some of the better D3 teams play.Thats not a knock against any of the west teams.Im just saying the season has not even really gotten started in the east ,so let things get going before celebrating.
not celebrating by any means, but there were 7 teams from the west in the final national poll last year.....out of 30 teams.  Almost 25% of the teams in the final poll come from a region when only 6 teams usually get in....doesn't seem right.

Tarheel0550

I guess I just dont understand why the west teams want to pay so early they only have to play 40 games not a major league schedule.Some of your teams out there will have up to a 2 or 3 week layoff before regionals.Baseball is a warm weather sport and some of your teams have been playing in sub freezing temps ie;pac-lu this past weekend.There is no way this is any fun for the players ,fans or umps for that matter and you cant tell me you play your best baseball when its that cold.Players want to play not practice and there is only so much you can do with practice after season starts,if you cant hit or field a ball by now you wont in the middle of the season.Like I said im not knocking any of the west teams I just think there should be a hard starting date for baseball like there is other sports.Some of the west teams played there first game on the date of the first legal practice date?So how is this possible when coaches can only have so many practices with players until then.

CrashDavisD3

Quote from: Tarheel0550 on March 02, 2011, 02:10:17 PM
I guess I just dont understand why the west teams want to pay so early they only have to play 40 games not a major league schedule.Some of your teams out there will have up to a 2 or 3 week layoff before regionals.Baseball is a warm weather sport and some of your teams have been playing in sub freezing temps ie;pac-lu this past weekend.There is no way this is any fun for the players ,fans or umps for that matter and you cant tell me you play your best baseball when its that cold.Players want to play not practice and there is only so much you can do with practice after season starts,if you cant hit or field a ball by now you wont in the middle of the season.Like I said im not knocking any of the west teams I just think there should be a hard starting date for baseball like there is other sports.Some of the west teams played there first game on the date of the first legal practice date?So how is this possible when coaches can only have so many practices with players until then.
I am ok with a hard start date of March 1st for all teams. But it may mean 4 games per week to get to 40 games. Academically this can be tough. I know at D1 they try to cram all the their games in short period of time with a Hard start date for everyone. This requires 5 games per week and does indeed hurt academically.
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

BigPoppa

Strategically, they can get through most of their season with only three starters. In the process, they can develop a 4 and 5  starter to use in the post-season. Cold weather schools can lose a few games while figuring the 4 and 5 guys out which can keep them out of the post-season. Teams in the SOuth and West almost always have one of their top three arms going which is a huge plus. Conversely, you are always facing someone else's top three.
Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.

Tarheel0550

Crash,I understand what you are saying about academics,and education is the most important thing for the student-athlete,but here in the n-east most of the teams are use to playing 4 games or more in a seven day period already.I dont think it would be such a big deal for all teams to do that,and I'm pretty sure the players would rather do it that way.And to Big Poppa thats why we like to hit in the n-east :)

tigerfan_2001

Quote from: Tarheel0550 on March 02, 2011, 02:51:58 PM
Crash,I understand what you are saying about academics,and education is the most important thing for the student-athlete,but here in the n-east most of the teams are use to playing 4 games or more in a seven day period already.I dont think it would be such a big deal for all teams to do that,and I'm pretty sure the players would rather do it that way.And to Big Poppa thats why we like to hit in the n-east :)
our conference sets the conf tourney the week before finals start.  They always start the last weekend of april/first of may.  We have to be done by then.  I never understood playing meaningless games after the conf tournament is over....you play to win the conf/regional.  Why play if that isn't a possibility.....

Tarheel0550

most conferences out here dont schedule games after conference tourney either but if there is a week between conference and regionals why not play a game or two to keep in game shape if you can?Still no answer from anyone on why play in sub freezing weather?Not alot of fun, these guys are not playing a sport where you can do alot once in the field to stay warm,so I dont think its conducive to good baseball.

CrashDavisD3

I see many teams in snow countries play many double headers to get their 40 games. Alternative is 1 on Friday, 2 on Saturday, 1 on Sunday. 4 times a week gets the 40 games into a 10 week window. I would love to see the playoff go to a round robin format with
16 4 team Regionals Round Robin. 8 Site best of 3 Super Regionals. National Championship in 8 team 2 bracket round robin format

Winner of each bracket plays a single game National Championship game

Would eliminate the 2 and BBQ format.
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html