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hazzben

Excuse the ignorance of an outsider but what happened with the Bethel volleyball team? Sounds tragic. Thanks.
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3. Threw to the outside and picked apart man coverage...o-line gave Jackson enough time!
Does St. Olaf,Gustavus or Bethel have the athletes to duplicate this type of game plan vs UST? I would venture to say Gustavus has the QB and receivers but not sure of the O-line play. Bethel with Marsh at QB if he plays like he did against SJU could put a scare into the Toms. Time will tell how it shakes out.

This may come off as a harsh answer, but I would say a declarative NO. Jackson Erdmann played like only a handful of D3 quarterbacks I have ever seen. Comparable to Aaron Boehme (Linfield) and Alex Tanney (Monmouth followed by NFL). He put balls in the smallest windows where only his receiver could get them. He threw well to all different levels. He moved around in the pocket just enough to manage pressure. And he had an hard internal clock in his head on when to fire; never more than 1-2 seconds in the pocket. His only flaw may have been staring down receivers, which led to the handful of batted balls. But that was largely because his primary route on the pre-snap read was almost always available.

It may sound like hyperbole, but based on that performance, he would start for a large number of Division 1 schools. There may be 1 or 2 other DIII schools out there that come even come close to that level. I thought the O-Line and receiver played into Saturday's success, but it really rested on the shoulders of one individual. Heckendorf designed the plan and Erdmann executed it. Both deserve all the credit in the world. If I knew James Franklin I would call him today and tell him the kid that left his program is a perfect heir apparent to McSorley and he should call him and beg him to come back next year. Caruso should also find out what Heckendorf is getting payed, and offer to double it. ;D

It reminded me a bit of when UST went down to play Monmouth in that first year in the playoffs against Tanney. The difference that time was UST had a gameplan for it because they knew what they were walking into. The offense also didn't screw the pooch with 5 turnovers in that game. I would be really curious to see how UST would adjust next time around, if there is a next time. Put two safeties over the top, jam the inside routes and force Erdmann to make the sideline throws. They may give up 3-4 yards on a run now and then, but that would have to be the counter. He may still make the throws, but at least you force them to tougher spots on the field and keep it in front of you a bit, until a penalty, a sack, or a mistake is made. The offense can stay with a similar gameplan. They garnered 610 yards. They might want to eliminate the unforced errors though.

Minus the fumble near the goal line I would say Josh Parks was also a pretty clear high level Division 1 talent too. The speed was always there, but he now appears to be a lot stronger and better between the tackles. SJU needs to find a mediocre running back. The SJU line play is decent. But, the RB just barrels right into their backsides without seeing cutback lanes or holes develop. It's a glaring weakness on an otherwise high level offense. The kicking game was a mess for SJU as well.

Very good analysis. The game pivoted on a great offensive game plan and its execution. Erdmann deserves all the kudos he is getting, but great QB's takes their linemen out for supper after a game like that. The SJU O-line deserved an all-you-can-eat buffet, they were that good against the #1 defense. And I haven't seen the stats on this, but it seemed like SJU's ability to convert on 3rd downs was uncanny. That makes a huge difference in a humming offense.
The tailgate was a blur, like a wedding or a funeral where time flies and there's not enough time to talk to everyone or go everywhere. Sorry to have missed you Oz and Bench, and all the rest of you knuckleheads who were there.
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No worries Finsleft, we blew in much later than normal due to some gridlock on 94 and getting a later start than usual. There's a good shot there will be a second chance to connect this year.
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Hard to know how to express thanks to the Warhawk FB team and athletic department for their decency and good samaritan response to the Bethel Volleyball team this weekend. Obviously a tragedy that resulted in the deaths of two young people. But thinking of what happened recently with the hockey team in Canada a few years back, it's also good to thank God that the accident wasn't worse this weekend.

Also makes you realize how often we take for granted the safety of our teams and fans driving/flying back and forth from all these athletic events.

All that to say, tip of the cap to our DIII brethren in Wisconsin for their kindness on the scene of the trauma.

Well said Hazzben. It is tragic for the two UWW students and their families. My prayers are with them.
The story:
http://www.startribune.com/bethel-volleyball-team-bus-hit-head-on-in-wis-2-in-car-are-killed/497521891/
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East Region football / Re: FB: Empire 8
« Last post by Bartman on Today at 03:12:55 pm »
Congrats to all you Fisher guys. No "0-fer" this season.  As for my Union Dutchmen...sadly a giant step backward.  :'(   Looking forward to a future Dutchmen/Cardinal matchup.

No 0fer this year- and Im sure that the kids are glad that they got the win, but the Cards have a lot of work to do (and healing) in order to get another elusive W.
MVille came to play and beat a decent UC team.  There are really no gimme wins...period
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     I miss the boldness of the Fisher supporters when the team is at the top of its game....Brockport is soooo much better than anyone in the E8/LL group(although IC hung in there and perhaps Cortland will give them a good test) , the rest of us are just sparring partners for them....pretty much the Mount Union effect in the OAC with one close game with John Carroll. I hope this is not a long term trend and the rest of the East can keep up with BPort. Good luck against the Mustangs and reaching your second win, they have some talent.
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Hard to know how to express thanks to the Warhawk FB team and athletic department for their decency and good samaritan response to the Bethel Volleyball team this weekend. Obviously a tragedy that resulted in the deaths of two young people. But thinking of what happened recently with the hockey team in Canada a few years back, it's also good to thank God that the accident wasn't worse this weekend.

Also makes you realize how often we take for granted the safety of our teams and fans driving/flying back and forth from all these athletic events.

All that to say, tip of the cap to our DIII brethren in Wisconsin for their kindness on the scene of the trauma.
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General football / Re: Pool B
« Last post by ADL70 on Today at 03:02:25 pm »
Thomas More just saw its Pool B chances evaporate. The Saints miss a 34yd FG wide right with 2:08 left.

Muhlenberg marches down the field and converts a 20 yd FG at the buzzer to win 34-31.  If Muhlenberg runs the table, they are in good position maybe to host a two games, depending on the rest of the season in the Presidents AC.

TMC still has to play St. John's, so they likely are 6-3 vs D3.  Which pretty much leaves B to the NEWMAC.  Merch Marine (5-1) has to play 5-2 Coast Guard and MIT (6-0) has CG and 5-2 Springfield.
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General football / Re: Pool C 2018
« Last post by wally_wabash on Today at 02:59:22 pm »
I'll work on an eliminator table tonight and possibly a mock selection, time permitting.  I may hold off on a mock selection until the various regions post their weekly fan polls which I like to use a surrogate regional rankings. 
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I had a wonderful day of WIAC Football. I started the day out by going to the UW River Falls vs UW Stout game. After the game I made the two hour drive south and caught the UWL vs Point game. Review:

UWRF D looked better than I expected them to. The Herink kid from UWRF is a huge weapon for them on O. If you have not seen him play yet, he is fun to watch. Stout lost their big RB (#5) mid way through the 3rd Q which really hurt them. By the looks of it, he might be out awhile. He in my mind is a top 3 to 4 back in the league. I was very impressed with how Stouts young QB handled the offense and the pressure of UWRF. Stout also had 4 freshman WR that played big mins. The future is bright at UW- Stout. Overall great football game

I sure did not see a blow out coming in the UWL game. UWL won the field position game big time. They had a couple monster punt returns. I was impressed with UWL QB. 4 passing TDS and a rushing TD. I am not sure if Point will win another game. I understand that it was a freshman's first start but they could not get anything going on O at all.

Mid way through the year thoughts:
UWW- They will win the national title this year. Heard it here first.
UWO- Will win the rest, the O will hold them back a bit
UWP- Can't figure them out yet.
UWL- Can't figure them out yet. Played Whitewater well for 1 half then fell apart.
UWEC- Going to struggle to get a W. They do look much improved however.
UWRF- Up and down. Don't have a good handle on them.
UW- Stout- If the back is out, it doesn't look good. They do have play makers to get 2 more W's
Point- Year 0 for a new head coach. I really think he will get Point turned around, might take 3-5 years but you can still win at point.

Pat, I thought having two accounts on here is prohibited? Looks like bleedpurple found a loophole.

 ;D ;)
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Men's soccer / Re: NESCAC
« Last post by midwest on Today at 02:59:03 pm »
For what it's worth, Conn Coll recently started giving merit awards -- from its Common Data Set, the average non-need based award is about $13k and over 100 members of entering class got one. Trinity also gives a small number of merit awards.
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East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« Last post by Bartman on Today at 02:55:13 pm »

Ithaca's defensive scouting and execution of those plans are amazing to watch.  I've noticed some games, (last years Cortland, last and this year Union, this year Brockport) in particular where Ithaca seemed to know exactly what the other team was going to run.  Even against Brockport this year, IC seemed to have everything covered and only when Brockport had a little extra time to get guys open were they able to move the ball. 

Just a well coached defense

They also tackle extremely well. A fantastic defense all around. It is a shame they couldn't finish against RPI because I can't envision a scenario in which they even get a second's consideration for a Pool C. Maybe they win a three-way tiebreak with Hobart and RPI, though fewer things give me less joy than even trying to find that information on a website, much less figuring out the scenarios

Well lets start with the pool C.  I assume St. Thomas has one locked up.  The one loss OAC team will probably get the other.  Can Salisbury pull off a win and knock an NJAC team out?  Hardin Simmons gets one probably, The WIAC looks all screwed up, The CCIW also looks messed up, and then you have the NWC and possibly the LL.  So out of the 8 conferences above, Ithaca is probably on the outside looking in with 2 losses.

It is what it is I guess.  You need to beat RPI at home.  Can't complain about anything if you don't make it this year.  Although the WIAC and CCIW could have a few 2 or 3 loss teams, and that might help Ithaca out if they run the table.  Not sure if they take Ithaca over Wesley if SU can run the table.
I think the LL is smoking crack if we think any LL team will get a Pool C out of the East. I know one thing , that everyone is rooting for Hobart to beat RPI this week , which will put many scenarios into play(unless Hobart beats IC in the last game and goes undefeated in the LL...hopeful , but seems a tall task). I am curious to see how Hobart does against the RPI defense. I am not sure if IC had their best game against RPI as IC's offense seemed a bit off that day, but maybe it was the RPI defense. The Bombers game against Union seemed to be their best effort, and when Hobart plays IC in November both teams should be peaking. The Hobart coaching staff showed nothing to RPI as we started our second string QB who can throw(surprised Rochester with 3 TDs) but is more of a wildcat threat, as we piled up 280 yards on the ground. I think our offense is ready for the battle with RPI ,as our WR's and TE's are very skilled and our line has matured very nicely this year and I think Hofmann has been the most consistent QB this year in the LL. Without Dakota Harvey, we are less of a run game threat but Haeffner has played vey well . The question is ,can the Hobart defense contain the RPI offense enough to keep the game within reach. IF Hobart can engineer an upset, I am most concerned with the Ithaca game as their performance against Union was impressive, and Hobart will no doubt be the underdog again. Well, one week at a time...predictions later in the week. It should be a great few weeks.
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