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WW

Three Midwest Conference top 100's in pre-season Hansen Ratings:

38. Monmouth
61. St. Norbert
97. Chicago

DBQ1965

Quote from: WW on June 15, 2018, 10:58:30 AM
Three Midwest Conference top 100's in pre-season Hansen Ratings:

38. Monmouth
61. St. Norbert
97. Chicago

Hope springs eternal ... or in this case ... Fall.
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gbpuckfan

WW
What's your take on the Green Knights, gb? They gotta replace a QB too but Ima put a nickel on them getting off the millennial Schneid vs WIAC when they take on UWEC in NC play. My dark horse in MWC is Chicago -- they're up and comin. (feel free to respond on MWC thread)

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Well, Monmouth is still likely the team to beat - but we'll see. I don't want SNC to lose, of course, but gees, some of the bottom teams just need to get better. Chicago certainly seems like the biggest North threat. SNC plays Grinnell (1-9 last year), Knox (5-5), Ripon (5-5) in MWC before Chicago, so will probably be the toughest conference test to that point.

It's certainly seems like a good time to be playing the Blugolds. But the size difference in the OL/DL (both ways) is always an issue when SNC plays the WIAC schools, or UST a few years ago. I haven't looked specifically at these two teams but it's so hard to do anything when you can't control the line of scrimmage at all.
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WW

I was pretty impressed by SNC vs Point last year. I know Point flopped in WIAC play but that was only after they lost their QB for the season -- it was quite a drop to QB2. They were full strength vs Norbs, and Norbs actually should've won the game in regulation. (questionable go-for-it call when a FG would've almost put the game out of reach)

Agree on Monmouth.

gbpuckfan

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Midwest Conf. football champs: 85, 87, 88, 89, 99, 00, 01, 02, 03, 04, 06, 07, 10, 12, 13, 15, 18

WW

Quote from: gbpuckfan on July 16, 2018, 10:48:15 PM
preseason poll... no one gets even one vote

http://www.d3football.com/top25/2018/preseason

Well, at least the MWC champ gets to legitimately play the "We got no respect" card come playoff time...

judgetrainer

Hard to make a counter argument to the poll, though. Monmouth and Lake Forest in the South, SNC and Chicago in the North and after that...Let's face it, focusing on academics makes recruiting just a little tougher.

WW

Quote from: judgetrainer on July 18, 2018, 11:38:50 AM
Hard to make a counter argument to the poll, though. Monmouth and Lake Forest in the South, SNC and Chicago in the North and after that...Let's face it, focusing on academics makes recruiting just a little tougher.

Wellll I don't know that there's greater academic focus in the MWC than, say, most CCIW institutions, which seem to do just fine in the game. But in any case, Monmouth has a real opportunity to bolster MWC's poll credentials with a win in one of their two NC games, either No. 13 Wartburg or No. 18 Wheaton. SNC getting a win over a WIAC foe (Eau Claire) would boost MWC's profile as well, even if UWEC is a likely WIAC cellar dweller. Lake Forest gets a shot at North Central (No. 7) too.

AndOne

Quote from: WW on July 18, 2018, 12:10:05 PM
Quote from: judgetrainer on July 18, 2018, 11:38:50 AM
Hard to make a counter argument to the poll, though. Monmouth and Lake Forest in the South, SNC and Chicago in the North and after that...Let's face it, focusing on academics makes recruiting just a little tougher.

Wellll I don't know that there's greater academic focus in the MWC than, say, most CCIW institutions, which seem to do just fine in the game. But in any case, Monmouth has a real opportunity to bolster MWC's poll credentials with a win in one of their two NC games, either No. 13 Wartburg or No. 18 Wheaton. SNC getting a win over a WIAC foe (Eau Claire) would boost MWC's profile as well, even if UWEC is a likely WIAC cellar dweller. Lake Forest gets a shot at North Central (No. 7) too.

As far as academic focus, the CCIW schools do more than hold their own against the MWC.
There are, undoubtedly, many measures of such "focus."
For one, here are the overall scores for the members of each conference as rated and published by the latest edition of the US News & World Report College Rankings.

MWC

Grinnell     86
Lawrence   67
Knox         62
Beloit        61
Cornell      58
Lk Forest   55
Ripon        51
IL College  46
Monmouth 44

CCIW

Millikin        80
No. Central  74
Elmhurst     72
Wheaton     65
IWU            62
Carroll        59
Augie          55
No. Park.     49
Carthage     41

The MWC schools average 57.7, but the CCIW schools average 61.8
Draw your own conclusions.




AO

Quote from: AndOne on July 18, 2018, 05:32:27 PM
Quote from: WW on July 18, 2018, 12:10:05 PM
Quote from: judgetrainer on July 18, 2018, 11:38:50 AM
Hard to make a counter argument to the poll, though. Monmouth and Lake Forest in the South, SNC and Chicago in the North and after that...Let's face it, focusing on academics makes recruiting just a little tougher.

Wellll I don't know that there's greater academic focus in the MWC than, say, most CCIW institutions, which seem to do just fine in the game. But in any case, Monmouth has a real opportunity to bolster MWC's poll credentials with a win in one of their two NC games, either No. 13 Wartburg or No. 18 Wheaton. SNC getting a win over a WIAC foe (Eau Claire) would boost MWC's profile as well, even if UWEC is a likely WIAC cellar dweller. Lake Forest gets a shot at North Central (No. 7) too.

As far as academic focus, the CCIW schools do more than hold their own against the MWC.
There are, undoubtedly, many measures of such "focus."
For one, here are the overall scores for the members of each conference as rated and published by the latest edition of the US News & World Report College Rankings.

MWC

Grinnell     86
Lawrence   67
Knox         62
Beloit        61
Cornell      58
Lk Forest   55
Ripon        51
IL College  46
Monmouth 44

CCIW

Millikin        80
No. Central  74
Elmhurst     72
Wheaton     65
IWU            62
Carroll        59
Augie          55
No. Park.     49
Carthage     41

The MWC schools average 57.7, but the CCIW schools average 61.8
Draw your own conclusions.
Many of those schools are in different categories according to the way US News does its rankings.  Millikin is a "regional college midwest", whereas Lawrence is a National Liberal Arts College.  Millikin would be well below Lawrence if they were in the same category as they have lower test scores.

hickory_cornhusker

Quote from: AndOne on July 18, 2018, 05:32:27 PM
Quote from: WW on July 18, 2018, 12:10:05 PM
Quote from: judgetrainer on July 18, 2018, 11:38:50 AM
Hard to make a counter argument to the poll, though. Monmouth and Lake Forest in the South, SNC and Chicago in the North and after that...Let's face it, focusing on academics makes recruiting just a little tougher.

Wellll I don't know that there's greater academic focus in the MWC than, say, most CCIW institutions, which seem to do just fine in the game. But in any case, Monmouth has a real opportunity to bolster MWC's poll credentials with a win in one of their two NC games, either No. 13 Wartburg or No. 18 Wheaton. SNC getting a win over a WIAC foe (Eau Claire) would boost MWC's profile as well, even if UWEC is a likely WIAC cellar dweller. Lake Forest gets a shot at North Central (No. 7) too.

As far as academic focus, the CCIW schools do more than hold their own against the MWC.
There are, undoubtedly, many measures of such "focus."
For one, here are the overall scores for the members of each conference as rated and published by the latest edition of the US News & World Report College Rankings.

MWC

Grinnell     86
Lawrence   67
Knox         62
Beloit        61
Cornell      58
Lk Forest   55
Ripon        51
IL College  46
Monmouth 44

CCIW

Millikin        80
No. Central  74
Elmhurst     72
Wheaton     65
IWU            62
Carroll        59
Augie          55
No. Park.     49
Carthage     41

The MWC schools average 57.7, but the CCIW schools average 61.8
Draw your own conclusions.

Was I gone camping when St. Norbert left the MWC?