D3 Top 25 Fan Poll

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Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on November 09, 2016, 08:35:24 PM
Sorry for the delay. Voters were a bit slower this week... maybe there was some vote that was more interesting or important happening yesterday :-\

What vote could possibly be more important than timely participation in the Top 25 Fan Poll balloting?! :o

FCGrizzliesGrad

  1)   Mary Hardin-Baylor   223    ( 1,  1,  1,  1,  1,  1,  1,  2,  2)
  2)   Mount Union          216    ( 1,  1,  2,  2,  2,  2,  2,  2,  4)
  3)   UW-Whitewater        202    ( 2,  3,  3,  3,  4,  4,  4,  4,  5)
  4)   St Thomas            195    ( 3,  3,  3,  4,  4,  5,  5,  6,  6)
  5)   UW-Oshkosh           192    ( 3,  3,  4,  5,  5,  5,  5,  6,  6)
  6)   North Central        174    ( 4,  5,  5,  6,  6,  7,  7,  9, 11)
  7)   Linfield             166    ( 3,  6,  6,  7,  7,  8,  9, 10, 12)
  8)   St John's            160    ( 6,  7,  8,  8,  8,  9,  9,  9, 10)
  9)   Hardin-Simmons       154    ( 7,  8,  8,  9,  9,  9,  9, 10, 11)
10)   UW-Platteville       148    ( 7,  8,  8, 10, 10, 10, 10, 11, 12)
11)   Johns Hopkins        146    ( 7,  7,  8, 10, 10, 11, 11, 12, 12)
12)   Wheaton              124    (11, 11, 11, 12, 12, 13, 13, 13, 14)
13)   Thomas More          114    (12, 12, 12, 13, 13, 13, 14, 15, 16)
14)   Alfred               103    (11, 13, 14, 14, 14, 15, 16, 17, 17)
15)   Coe                   96    (14, 15, 15, 15, 15, 16, 16, 16, 16)
16)   John Carroll          77    (13, 14, 15, 16, 18, 18, 20, 20, 23)
17)   Wabash                68    (14, 14, 16, 17, 18, 18, 18, 25, --)
18)   Wesley                65    (15, 15, 18, 19, 19, 19, 19, 20, 25)
19)   Monmouth              50    (13, 16, 17, 20, 21, 21, 25, 25, --)
T20)   Case Western          49    (17, 19, 20, 20, 21, 21, 22, 22, 23)
T20)   Wittenberg            49    (17, 17, 17, 17, 19, 22, 24, --, --)
22)   St John Fisher        29    (18, 19, 20, 22, 23, 25, --, --, --)
T23)   Franklin              18    (19, 19, 22, --, --, --, --, --, --)
T23)   Hobart                18    (20, 22, 23, 23, 24, --, --, --, --)
25)   Muhlenberg            16    (18, 20, 24, --, --, --, --, --, --)

26)   E Texas Baptist       13    (18, 22, 25)
27)   Stevenson             12    (21, 22, 23)
28)   St Lawrence           10    (23, 24, 24, 24, 25)
29)   Salisbury              9    (21, 22)
30)   Frostburg St           8    (21, 23)
T31)   Berry                  5    (21)
T31)   Concordia-Moorhead     5    (21)
33)   W New England          4    (24, 24)
34)   Huntingdon             3    (23)
35)   Central                2    (24)
T36)   Husson                 1    (25)
T36)   Trinity (CT)           1    (25)
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Mr. Ypsi

Gonna be an interesting week to vote - JCU 31, UMU 28. :o

smedindy

The bottom 5 is almost all new, and Mt. Union dropped out of my Top 10 mainly because I couldn't justify moving anyone out when I moved JCU up.

MonroviaCat

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 12, 2016, 04:22:02 PM
Gonna be an interesting week to vote - JCU 31, UMU 28. :o
At least you guys don't have to vote for the D1 schools this week----YIKES!
Go Cats!

FCGrizzliesGrad

#1955
This is the final poll until after the Stagg Bowl. Good luck to the 32 teams still playing

                2016 WEEK 11 TOP 25 FAN POLL

#        School                Pts   Prev 

1)   Mary Hardin-Baylor (9)    225     1
2)   UW-Whitewater             209     3
3)   St Thomas                 206     4
4)   UW-Oshkosh                202     5
5)   North Central             180     6
6)   Linfield                  166     7
7)   St John's                 159     8
8)   Hardin-Simmons            153     9
9)   John Carroll              151    16
10)   Mount Union               147     2
11)   UW-Platteville            145    10
12)   Johns Hopkins             133    11
13)   Wheaton                   120    12
14)   Alfred                    112    14
15)   Thomas More               106    13
16)   Coe                        95    15
17)   Wesley                     77    18
18)   Monmouth                   60    19
19)   Wittenberg                 54   T20
20)   Hobart                     50   T23
21)   Stevenson                  30    NR
22)   Frostburg St               26    NR
23)   Huntingdon                 20    NR
24)   Muhlenberg                 19    25
25)   Franklin                   15   T23


Dropped Out: Wabash, Case Western Reserve, St John Fisher

Also Receiving Votes: St John Fisher (12), St Lawrence (11), DePauw (7), Berry (6), W New England (6), Central (5), Delaware Valley (5), Husson (3), Randolph-Macon (3), Wabash (3), Illinois Wesleyan (2), Redlands (1), Trinity (CT) (1)

Voters: 02 Warhawk, D3MAFAN, desertcat1, FCGrizzliesGrad, HansenRatings, HSCTiger74, Mr. Ypsi, NCF and smedindy
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FCGrizzliesGrad

#1956

1)   Mary Hardin-Baylor  225    ( 1,  1,  1,  1,  1,  1,  1,  1,  1)
2)   UW-Whitewater       209    ( 2,  2,  2,  2,  3,  3,  3,  4,  4)
3)   St Thomas           206    ( 2,  2,  2,  3,  3,  3,  4,  4,  5)
4)   UW-Oshkosh          202    ( 2,  2,  3,  3,  4,  4,  4,  5,  5)
5)   North Central       180    ( 4,  4,  5,  5,  6,  6,  6,  7, 11)
6)   Linfield            166    ( 3,  5,  6,  6,  7,  9, 10, 11, 11)
7)   St John's           159    ( 5,  7,  7,  7,  9,  9, 10, 10, 11)
8)   Hardin-Simmon       153    ( 6,  6,  8,  9,  9, 10, 10, 11, 12)
9)   John Carroll        151    ( 7,  7,  8,  8,  8,  8,  8, 13, 16)
10)   Mount Union         147    ( 5,  5,  8,  8,  9,  9, 12, 14, 17)
11)   UW-Platteville      145    ( 6,  7,  9,  9, 10, 10, 11, 13, 14)
12)   Johns Hopkins       133    ( 7,  8, 11, 11, 12, 13, 13, 13, 13)
13)   Wheaton             120    (10, 12, 12, 12, 12, 13, 14, 14, 15)
14)   Alfred              112    ( 6, 10, 14, 14, 15, 15, 15, 16, 17)
15)   Thomas More         106    (12, 12, 13, 13, 14, 14, 15, 16, 19)
16)   Coe                  95    (11, 15, 15, 15, 16, 16, 17, 17, 17)
17)   Wesley               77    (16, 16, 16, 17, 18, 18, 18, 19, 19)
18)   Monmouth             60    (14, 16, 18, 19, 20, 21, 21, 21, 24)
19)   Wittenberg           54    (15, 17, 17, 18, 18, 21, 22, --, --)
20)   Hobart               50    (17, 19, 19, 19, 20, 20, 21, 23, --)
21)   Stevenson            30    (18, 20, 20, 22, 23, 24, 25, --, --)
22)   Frostburg St         26    (20, 21, 22, 23, 23, 23, 24, --, --)
23)   Huntingdon           20    (20, 21, 23, 24, 24, 25, 25, --, --)
24)   Muhlenberg           19    (18, 19, 22, --, --, --, --, --, --)
25)   Franklin             15    (18, 19, --, --, --, --, --, --, --)

26)   St John Fisher      12    (20, 21, 25)
27)   St Lawrence         11    (22, 22, 23)
28)   DePauw               7    (22, 23)
T29)   Berry                6    (20)
T29)   W New England        6    (22, 24)
T31)   Central              5    (21)
T31)   Delaware Valley      5    (22, 25)
T33)   Husson               3    (23)
T33)   Randolph-Macon       3    (24, 25)
T33)   Wabash               3    (24, 25)
36)   Illinois Wesleyan    2    (24)
T37)   Redlands             1    (25)
T37)   Trinity (CT)         1    (25)
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HansenRatings

Geez... Mount Union down to #10? I was one of the voters who kept them pretty high, #5, and I've had John Carroll in my Top 10-15 all season. Looking at overall body of work, I think Mount has an argument as the second-best 1-loss team in the country.
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ExTartanPlayer

Quote from: HansenRatings on November 17, 2016, 10:56:33 AM
Geez... Mount Union down to #10? I was one of the voters who kept them pretty high, #5, and I've had John Carroll in my Top 10-15 all season. Looking at overall body of work, I think Mount has an argument as the second-best 1-loss team in the country.

Not saying you're wrong, but...I'm curious about this.  Not that it really matters now, the playoff brackets are what they are and we'll see where everything shakes out, just curious how you're figuring Mount as the second-best 1-loss team in the country when there is a 1-loss team that has beaten them heads-up (JCU) and another 1-loss team who has beaten that one (UWO).

I can infer from your statement that you ranked Mount #5 (and that JCU's highest vote is 7) that you kept Mount ahead of JCU (so presumably UWO is the "best 1-loss team" with Mount, JCU, Linfield, Hardin-Simmons, and St. John's somewhere just behind them in the hierarchy of one-loss teams).

I assume your rationale for Mount/JCU is because Mount spent the entire season blitzing through OAC teams while JCU had a few closer calls, hence the justification that Mount's body of work is better?  Since they played all of the same teams...I guess you're saying that JCU struggled to beat BW and ONU while Mount beat both more easily?

We're about to see things like this unfold in FBS as well, where the CFP committee is likely going to have to decide between Clemson/Louisville (both 1-loss teams, Clemson owning h2h win, but it was a close game at Clemson and otherwise Lousville has spent the season crushing some teams that Clemson has squeaked by) and maybe even will have to decide between a 1-loss Ohio State and a 2-loss B1G champion Penn State or Wisconsin...
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wally_wabash

Somebody thinks there are 16 teams better than Mount Union?  That's wild.  I mean, UMU rarely gives voters a chance to play around with their ranking so, hey, get weird with it. Might be 12 more years before you can do it again.  :)
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HansenRatings

Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on November 17, 2016, 11:25:46 AM
Quote from: HansenRatings on November 17, 2016, 10:56:33 AM
Geez... Mount Union down to #10? I was one of the voters who kept them pretty high, #5, and I've had John Carroll in my Top 10-15 all season. Looking at overall body of work, I think Mount has an argument as the second-best 1-loss team in the country.

Not saying you're wrong, but...I'm curious about this.  Not that it really matters now, the playoff brackets are what they are and we'll see where everything shakes out, just curious how you're figuring Mount as the second-best 1-loss team in the country when there is a 1-loss team that has beaten them heads-up (JCU) and another 1-loss team who has beaten that one (UWO).

I can infer from your statement that you ranked Mount #5 (and that JCU's highest vote is 7) that you kept Mount ahead of JCU (so presumably UWO is the "best 1-loss team" with Mount, JCU, Linfield, Hardin-Simmons, and St. John's somewhere just behind them in the hierarchy of one-loss teams).

I assume your rationale for Mount/JCU is because Mount spent the entire season blitzing through OAC teams while JCU had a few closer calls, hence the justification that Mount's body of work is better?  Since they played all of the same teams...I guess you're saying that JCU struggled to beat BW and ONU while Mount beat both more easily?

We're about to see things like this unfold in FBS as well, where the CFP committee is likely going to have to decide between Clemson/Louisville (both 1-loss teams, Clemson owning h2h win, but it was a close game at Clemson and otherwise Lousville has spent the season crushing some teams that Clemson has squeaked by) and maybe even will have to decide between a 1-loss Ohio State and a 2-loss B1G champion Penn State or Wisconsin...

You hit it pretty much on the head there. UMU outscored their mutual opponents with JCU by an average of 12.75 points. So for 9 games, UMU was on average 2 touchdowns better than JCU, and about equal in the last week. If I'm voting based on who I think the best teams are, Mount comes out on top in that matchup. Like I said, I kept JCU pretty high up my ballot all year, right in the mix with Linfield/HSU, so I didn't view them winning as a HUGE surprise (I thought the Raiders would win, obviously, but it would be close).
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FCGrizzliesGrad

I have 8 out of 9 ballots so hopefully the final poll will be up soon.
Apparently the playoffs didn't clear things up as there are already 40 teams with a vote while before the playoffs there were just 38.
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FCGrizzliesGrad

As usual we seem to have lost a voter during the playoffs so there were only 8 ballots rather than 9.

                2016 FINAL TOP 25 FAN POLL

#        School               Pts   Prev 

  1)   Mary Hardin-Baylor (8)  200     1
  2)   UW-Oshkosh              192     4
  3)   John Carroll            181     9
  4)   Mount Union             174    10
  5)   St Thomas               167     3
  6)   UW-Whitewater           158     2
  7)   Wheaton                 142    13
T8)   Linfield                127     6
T8)   St John's               127     7
10)   Johns Hopkins           124    12
11)   North Central           122     5
12)   UW-Platteville          108    11
13)   Wesley                  106    17
14)   Hardin-Simmons          101     8
15)   Alfred                  100    14
16)   Wittenberg               74    19
T17)   Coe                      65    16
T17)   Thomas More              65    15
19)   Hobart                   50    20
20)   W New England            39    NR
21)   Monmouth                 38    18
22)   Stevenson                31    21
23)   Frostburg St             25    22
24)   Huntingdon               18    23
25)   St Lawrence              10    NR



Dropped Out: Muhlenberg and Franklin

Also Receiving Votes: Muhlenberg (9), Franklin (8), Central (6), Bridgewater St (5), Delaware Valley (5), Redlands (5), Berry (4), DePauw (4), Illinois Wesleyan (3), Wash & Jeff (2), Salisbury (1), St John Fisher (1), Trinity (CT) (1), Wabash (1), Whitworth (1)

Voters: D3MAFAN, desertcat1, FCGrizzliesGrad, HansenRatings, HSCTiger74, Mr. Ypsi, NCF and smedindy

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FCGrizzliesGrad

  1)   Mary Hardin-Baylor   200    ( 1,  1,  1,  1,  1,  1,  1,  1)
  2)   UW-Oshkosh           192    ( 2,  2,  2,  2,  2,  2,  2,  2)
  3)   John Carroll         181    ( 3,  3,  3,  3,  3,  4,  4,  4)
  4)   Mount Union          174    ( 3,  4,  4,  4,  4,  5,  5,  5)
  5)   St Thomas            167    ( 3,  3,  4,  5,  5,  6,  6,  9)
  6)   UW-Whitewater        158    ( 5,  5,  6,  6,  6,  6,  6, 10)
  7)   Wheaton              142    ( 7,  7,  7,  8,  8,  9, 10, 10)
T8)   Linfield             127    ( 5,  9,  9, 10, 11, 11, 12, 14)
T8)   St John's            127    ( 7,  8,  9, 10, 11, 12, 12, 12)
10)   Johns Hopkins        124    ( 6,  8, 10, 11, 11, 12, 13, 13)
11)   North Central        122    ( 8,  9,  9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14)
12)   UW-Platteville       108    ( 7,  9, 11, 12, 14, 15, 15, 17)
13)   Wesley               106    ( 7,  7, 10, 14, 14, 15, 17, 18)
14)   Hardin-Simmons       101    ( 8, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 18)
15)   Alfred               100    ( 7,  8,  8, 13, 15, 15, 17, 25)
16)   Wittenberg            74    (13, 13, 16, 16, 17, 18, 20, 21)
T17)   Coe                   65    (15, 16, 17, 18, 18, 18, 19, 22)
T17)   Thomas More           65    (14, 14, 15, 17, 17, 19, 21, --)
19)   Hobart                50    (13, 16, 19, 20, 20, 21, 23, --)
20)   W New England         39    (18, 18, 19, 19, 21, 22, --, --)
21)   Monmouth              38    (16, 20, 21, 21, 21, 23, 23, 25)
22)   Stevenson             31    (16, 19, 20, 22, 22, --, --, --)
23)   Frostburg St          25    (16, 19, 23, 23, 24, --, --, --)
24)   Huntingdon            18    (19, 20, 23, 24, --, --, --, --)
25)   St Lawrence           10    (22, 22, 24, --, --, --, --, --)

26)   Muhlenberg             9    (17)
27)   Franklin               8    (20, 24)
28)   Central                6    (20)
T29)   Bridgewater St         5    (21)
T29)   Delaware Valley        5    (23, 24)
T29)   Redlands               5    (24, 24, 25)
T32)   Berry                  4    (22)
T32)   DePauw                 4    (22)
34)   Illinois Wesleyan      3    (23)
35)   Wash & Jeff            2    (24)
T36)   Salisbury              1    (25)
T36)   St John Fisher         1    (25)
T36)   Trinity (CT)           1    (25)
T36)   Wabash                 1    (25)
T36)   Whitworth              1    (25)
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2013 WIAC Pickem Co-champ
2015 Nat'l Pickem
2017: LEC and MIAA Pickem
2019: MIAA and WIAC Pickem

Soccer
2023: Mens Pickem

FCGrizzliesGrad

Are you ready for some football?!

If you're interested in being part of the Fan Poll this year just send me a PM. Ballots are due by Tuesday during the season. If you need extra time or know you won't be able to get a ballot in that particular week please let me know as soon as you can. The earlier you submit a ballot the more time I'll have to check it and make sure you didn't make any errors or forget a team (and there's usually one every couple weeks that needs revised).

If you're in the south or east regions I strongly hope you'll join. There's usually a low turnout from those areas.

I'd like to have the preseason poll up by Sunday 27th. This will give time for people to study Kickoff which comes out the 22nd.
Football picker extraordinaire
5 titles: CCIW, NJAC
4x: ODAC:S
3x: ASC, IIAC, MIAA:S, NACC:S, NCAC, OAC:P, Nat'l
2x: HCAC, MIAC, ODAC:P, WIAC
1x: Bracket, OAC:S

Basketball
2013 WIAC Pickem Co-champ
2015 Nat'l Pickem
2017: LEC and MIAA Pickem
2019: MIAA and WIAC Pickem

Soccer
2023: Mens Pickem