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#31
Scotth, Ok it will be more difficult to do things in the spring. But does it require someone with an advanced degree to run a scoreboard?  If not, one could assume that there might be a few people on every campus that might enjoy making some beer money.  If it does require an advanced degree there should be a few around campus too.  As for the webcast, if people have pulled donations over the quality of a webcast just imagine how many people would be pissed off if HSC had a chance to play and they did not.

#32
Quote from: scotth on July 24, 2020, 01:38:01 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 24, 2020, 11:27:08 AM
Plus, you have to plan for the possibility that fans won't be allowed to attend, so web streaming is a must for every event possible.

It takes a lot of man-hours even to host a basic event.
The ODAC as a collective unit does a pretty good job with webcasting as much as possible. Some schools are limited by what they can do because of the facilities they have to work with, budget limitations, or manpower limitations (it can be pretty hard to find a commentator who is decent, for example). But from what I can tell, they've done a pretty good job broadcasting as many events as they possibly can given whatever limitations they have to work with.

BUT, think of all the expense it will entail to broadcast everything possible now since there is far greater likelihood of even more overlap due to the potential of more games being played at the same time due to having all your indoor and outdoor sports sharing the same season. To broadcast as much as they were before, some schools are inevitably going to have to buy more equipment.

I can't vouch for what every other ODAC school does, but at H-SC, we didn't have the equipment to run more than two events at a time, and we run a basic one-camera operation without graphics other than what Boxcast provides for a scorebug. We didn't have the equipment when I left to do every game at the same quality, we could do a third but it would take sacrificing quite a bit in video quality along with no audio.

It's a simple and fairly cheap way to run a webcast. To use high quality equipment for that, once factoring in audio equipment, is going to run well over $2k per setup.

Some ODAC schools run more complex webcasts with graphics and multiple camera angles, which involves having much more expensive backend equipment. Now you're talking several thousands of more dollars that will need to be spent if they don't have enough equipment to cover all facilities since there is a potential for more games to be played at the same time.

In a time where schools are laying off and furloughing people and slashing expenses everywhere they reasonably can, is it even appropriate to hand over thousands of more dollars to the athletic department just so they can stream sporting events? Just think of the optics of doing that. I'd be apoplectic if the school did that after I got laid off, furloughed, or had some of my benefits reduced and/or eliminated.

I get what you are saying but if I were a senior and you came to me and said these things about your hours being doubled, the optics of athletic departments spending, the streaming quality of a game, or basically anything else, I would not care about anything you said. I'd ask after you finished speaking - when are we playing? 
#33
Quote from: scotth on July 22, 2020, 08:34:34 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on July 21, 2020, 06:18:07 PM
Quote from: y_jack_lok on July 21, 2020, 05:52:38 PM
Fall sports postponed: https://odaconline.com/general/2020-21/releases/072120-odac-update

A quote from Larry Stimpert President of HSC - "At Hampden-Sydney, sports with fall championships (cross country, football, and soccer) will not compete this fall, but will instead compete next spring."

I know logistically this is going to be difficult. But I am glad the guys have a chance to play this spring.
Glad I'm not involved in the day to day of college athletics anymore. The hours in the spring were bad enough for SIDs throughout the ODAC without the fall sports involved! At least then February, maybe first week of March, was the only overlap with basketball and spring sports. Now it's going to be like that on steroids for the whole semester! Thoughts and prayers also out to the athletic trainers and anyone who inevitably gets furloughed with no sports in the fall (hopefully furlough is all it is!).

Could be a nice spring for my bank account by being a ringer when a nearby school inevitably needs it though!

Scotth, It might be a difficult task, the hours may be long, and I'm sure things will overlap. C'mon man!  Really?  You know what I'd hate?  I'd hate to be a SID or trainer to go tell a senior they can't play because it was just too damn tough on ME! 

I'm struggling to understand this "poor me" logic.
#34
Quote from: hasanova on July 23, 2020, 10:35:54 AM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on July 21, 2020, 06:18:07 PM
Quote from: y_jack_lok on July 21, 2020, 05:52:38 PM
Fall sports postponed: https://odaconline.com/general/2020-21/releases/072120-odac-update

A quote from Larry Stimpert President of HSC - "At Hampden-Sydney, sports with fall championships (cross country, football, and soccer) will not compete this fall, but will instead compete next spring."

I know logistically this is going to be difficult. But I am glad the guys have a chance to play this spring.
I don't know that this is a certainty.  I believe they are hopeful there will be spring competition.

I heard the same thing. That's why I said "a chance to play". I also heard if a team competes in 5 or fewer games that EVERYONE retains their eligibility!  I sure hope they play for the sake of the seniors.
#35
Quote from: y_jack_lok on July 21, 2020, 05:52:38 PM
Fall sports postponed: https://odaconline.com/general/2020-21/releases/072120-odac-update

A quote from Larry Stimpert President of HSC - "At Hampden-Sydney, sports with fall championships (cross country, football, and soccer) will not compete this fall, but will instead compete next spring."

I know logistically this is going to be difficult. But I am glad the guys have a chance to play this spring.
#36
HSC has an enrollment of approximately 1100 students.  About 300 of these students play a sport. I don't know an exact number but I'd guess about 100 to 125 are freshmen. Point being if half of these freshmen decide to save the nearly $30,000.00 it cost to attend this fall it's going to leave a huge budget shortfall. I would think HSC, WL, and RMC can absorb this loss for the short run. How about the rest of the ODAC?  Who's in the worst financial situation to handle losing 50 to 60 men and 30 to 40 women?  I would think this potentially could be devastating to many D3 schools not just ODAC programs.
#38
4 weeks from today D3 football teams are supposed to start practicing. I just don't see how things are going get so much better that starting practice can happen.  I hope I'm wrong.
#39
Quote from: y_jack_lok on June 26, 2020, 08:00:12 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on June 26, 2020, 07:26:57 PM
Maybe RMC should change their name too. John Randolph was one of the founders of the American Colonization Society in 1816, to send free blacks to a colony in Africa. At the same time, he believed that slavery was a necessity in Virginia, saying, "The question of slavery, as it is called, is to us a question of life and death ... You will find no instance in history where two distinct races have occupied the soil except in the relation of master and slave.

There's no end to this cancel culture mentality.

If R-MC chooses to examine its name, I would support that. If it chooses to change it's name I would support that as well. One of my alma maters has already changed it's name. The process was difficult, but the result was worth it. It's not about canceling culture. It's about making sure that the person being honored by having his/her name given to a place, building  institution, etc. is fully deserving of that recognition.

I respectfully disagree.  Once RMC officially changes its name then what?  Does RMC give back all the money they've received from racist throughout their history?  Do they rename all the streets thru and around campus currently named for former slave owners? Do they rename the town of Ashland which was named for the family farm of slave owner Henry Clay.  If yes then why stop there - Hanover county once had one of the largest enslaved populations in the state. Even the state of Virginia was named in honor of Queen Elizabeth I (The Virgin Queen) who enthusiastically supported the slave trade.

It never ends. It will never be enough for the cancel culture movement.

RMC, WL, HSC and others can embrace who they were, who they are, and where they want to go without trying to erase their past.

JK I respect your story.  He says he would not have gone to a school named after Lee but I assume he had no problem with his grandson attending a school named The University of the South. Sewanee's early leaders openly embraced a belief in white racial superiority.  A university that has only 4% of its enrollment as black students. 4% of 1750 students is 70!  WL at 2.2% has 50!  The culture needs to change more than the name. Change the name and continue to only bring 12 to 13 black students a year?  Who does that help? What it does do is allow those who make the name change a chance to pat themselves on the back and lie to themselves about all the change they made. While in reality they will have done nothing. If the powers that be at WL said we are changing our name and commit to quadrupling our black students. Then maybe I'd be more open to the change. But changing the name only and continuing with the status quo would be a patronizing move to simply placate the far left radicals that are trying to ruin our country.
#40
Maybe RMC should change their name too. John Randolph was one of the founders of the American Colonization Society in 1816, to send free blacks to a colony in Africa. At the same time, he believed that slavery was a necessity in Virginia, saying, "The question of slavery, as it is called, is to us a question of life and death ... You will find no instance in history where two distinct races have occupied the soil except in the relation of master and slave.

There's no end to this cancel culture mentality. 
#41
Quote from: jknezek on June 26, 2020, 02:01:49 PM
In my opinion, sooner or later W&L is going to have to change the name. It keeps coming up with increasing frequency, so I'm leaning toward sooner, but I would have said the same 2 years. Still, how much bad publicity are you willing to weather every year or two? Going to be a lot of unhappy older alumni when it finally happens, but probably no more than when we went coed. I wonder if the athletic nickname will go with it? We primarily use the Trident symbol now for the athletic department, but "Generals" is usually on uniforms somewhere. And keeping the Trident might be an issue if we weren't W&L...

We will see if the latest faculty statement is the last straw. Or if the faculty will stay unified as I think the latest call may have been indicative but not official.

Where does it stop?  Is the name enough? Changing the name does not change the past.  Will changing the name increase the number of black students and faculty members (currently 2.2% and 4.1%) Real change is a little harder than a name change. Telling generations of alumni they should be ashamed of their alma mater just to placate today's left seems foolish to me.  But heck I went to school in North Carolina, a state who gets its name from King Charles I. A king who granted a license to a syndicate of traders that gave them approval to transport slaves from Guinea. So I cannot say too much.
#42
High Schools in NC can have summer workouts starting June 15th. A few rules:
No more than 25 to a field including coaches
Temperature checks before every practice for every player
No indoor activities (film, weight room etc)
Every player must bring their own water bottle (no sharing)
Equipment has to be sprayed down after every practice
Practice uniforms must be washed every day.
#43
Quote from: jknezek on April 16, 2020, 01:45:49 PM
Quote from: scotth on April 16, 2020, 12:31:26 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on April 13, 2020, 10:02:16 AM
So long as we are in a situation where if a player on a team gets the virus and then the rest of the team must be quarantined how could they play?  I just don’t think they can.  College football can adjust their schedules to play later in the year or even in the spring if they choose. However, high school does not have that luxury.  There are too many two and three sport athletes to make adjusting the schedule viable. D3 players who don’t play or practice retain their eligibility but HS kids are done. Such a sad situation.
The economic and resource logistics of having fall sports play in second semester will be a disaster at the D3 level. Most D3 athletic departments already run with practically a skeleton crew as it is.

Yeah. I don't see this as an option. Either they will get played or they won't. Like spring sports. Personally I think they will. If students can be in dorms and eating in communal halls, they can play sports. Though maybe without fans. Or at least, without fans excepts parents maintaining social distance. We will see. Maybe a shortened season, though trend lines outside a few epicenters look good...

No way I'd go to a DI game. Sitting in those stadiums with tens of thousands crammed into bleachers... not this fall. Not for me.

Football is very different than spring sports.  The average D1 football team rakes in 78 million according to USAToday. No spring sports come remotely close to this number.   I know D3 does not come close to these numbers either. But with this kind of money at stake the NCAA will do anything to get the games in - whenever they’re played. I don’t see them coming up with a different set of rules or guidelines for playing the games for D3 than D1. It may be economically and logistically difficult but if the NCAA says play in the spring - they’ll tell D3 to figure it out.  The idea of spring football from February to May is being discussed. Google “College football to the spring of 2021”. With college football being played in every state and with different states implementing different rules as it relates to Covid 19 it seems very likely a disruption to the schedule is inevitable.
#44
So long as we are in a situation where if a player on a team gets the virus and then the rest of the team must be quarantined how could they play?  I just don't think they can.  College football can adjust their schedules to play later in the year or even in the spring if they choose. However, high school does not have that luxury.  There are too many two and three sport athletes to make adjusting the schedule viable. D3 players who don't play or practice retain their eligibility but HS kids are done. Such a sad situation.
#45
HSC drops Averett and CNU and picks up Baldwin Wallace and Widener for 2020 football schedule.