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Re: FB: Southern Athletic Association
« Reply #2820 on: March 29, 2023, 11:52:51 am »
If BSC seriously believes they can fundraise $200 million by 2026 than I don’t know why they would close down. Even if you knock $50 million off that goal if that was suppose to come from state aid, $150 million over 3 years is a lot more coming in than most small liberal arts colleges. As I said before, the church of the highlands with their highlands college and fundraising ability seems like the best vehicle to keep a private liberal arts college at the BSC location. Yet, that would assume the church of the highlands wants to run a private liberal arts college to expand their brand along with a bible college at the former health south campus.

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« Reply #2821 on: March 30, 2023, 08:43:48 am »
Apropos of nothing, I updated the enrollment numbers for the SAA schools on Wikipedia this morning.  With one exception the numbers all come from the respective school's "about" sites; the one for Oglethorpe is from an Atlanta Constitution-Journal story from earlier this school year. 
  • Berry:  2367 (including ~150 graduate students)
  • BSC: 1283
  • Centre: 1400
  • Hendrix: 1,144
  • Millsaps: 700
  • Oglethorpe: 1494
  • Rhodes: 2070
  • Sewanee:  1735
The numbers that were on Wikipedia previously are of unknown provenance but probably provide a sense of trends over at least the last few years. 
  • Berry +22%
  • BSC -20%
  • Centre -1%
  • Hendrix -18%
  • Millsaps -39%
  • Oglethorpe +49%
  • Rhodes +4%
  • Sewanee +25%
If you're Millsaps, you're in trouble.  OTOH, the increases at Berry, 'thorpe, and Sewanee are welcome surprises.

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Re: FB: Southern Athletic Association
« Reply #2822 on: March 30, 2023, 12:54:34 pm »
Apropos of nothing, I updated the enrollment numbers for the SAA schools on Wikipedia this morning.  With one exception the numbers all come from the respective school's "about" sites; the one for Oglethorpe is from an Atlanta Constitution-Journal story from earlier this school year. 
  • Berry:  2367 (including ~150 graduate students)
  • BSC: 1283
  • Centre: 1400
  • Hendrix: 1,144
  • Millsaps: 700
  • Oglethorpe: 1494
  • Rhodes: 2070
  • Sewanee:  1735
The numbers that were on Wikipedia previously are of unknown provenance but probably provide a sense of trends over at least the last few years. 
  • Berry +22%
  • BSC -20%
  • Centre -1%
  • Hendrix -18%
  • Millsaps -39%
  • Oglethorpe +49%
  • Rhodes +4%
  • Sewanee +25%
If you're Millsaps, you're in trouble.  OTOH, the increases at Berry, 'thorpe, and Sewanee are welcome surprises.

MIllsaps -- declining enrollment, a 100MM endowment, and located in a city that has a hard time providing water to its residents. If one of my kids was interested, I'd be pretty vocal about them looking somewhere else.

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Re: FB: Southern Athletic Association
« Reply #2823 on: March 31, 2023, 12:10:52 am »
Apropos of nothing, I updated the enrollment numbers for the SAA schools on Wikipedia this morning.  With one exception the numbers all come from the respective school's "about" sites; the one for Oglethorpe is from an Atlanta Constitution-Journal story from earlier this school year. 
  • Berry:  2367 (including ~150 graduate students)
  • BSC: 1283
  • Centre: 1400
  • Hendrix: 1,144
  • Millsaps: 700
  • Oglethorpe: 1494
  • Rhodes: 2070
  • Sewanee:  1735
The numbers that were on Wikipedia previously are of unknown provenance but probably provide a sense of trends over at least the last few years. 
  • Berry +22%
  • BSC -20%
  • Centre -1%
  • Hendrix -18%
  • Millsaps -39%
  • Oglethorpe +49%
  • Rhodes +4%
  • Sewanee +25%
If you're Millsaps, you're in trouble.  OTOH, the increases at Berry, 'thorpe, and Sewanee are welcome surprises.

MIllsaps -- declining enrollment, a 100MM endowment, and located in a city that has a hard time providing water to its residents. If one of my kids was interested, I'd be pretty vocal about them looking somewhere else.

Well and you also consider that there are a ton of other options for prospective students right in the same area. If we're talking athletics, Belhaven and Mississippi College are both nearby, and from what I understand, in a better situation as far as resources and finances. Tough to overlook that. There's nothing that really stands out about Millsaps (in my opinion of course) and I think it is represented in the enrollment numbers.
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Re: FB: Southern Athletic Association
« Reply #2824 on: April 05, 2023, 08:11:17 am »
Today is the day for BSC, announcement by the school is supposed to be at 12:30 central time, so a little more than 5 hours from now, 

This morning is going to go by especially slow. 

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« Reply #2825 on: April 05, 2023, 12:41:13 pm »
Today is the day for BSC, announcement by the school is supposed to be at 12:30 central time, so a little more than 5 hours from now, 

This morning is going to go by especially slow.

Never mind, meeting has been postponed……..

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« Reply #2826 on: April 05, 2023, 01:12:13 pm »
Today is the day for BSC, announcement by the school is supposed to be at 12:30 central time, so a little more than 5 hours from now, 

This morning is going to go by especially slow.

Never mind, meeting has been postponed……..

This actually could be good news - that they're trying to finalize the funding needed to continue.  But at the same time it's excruciating to have to wait indefinitely - did they reschedule?

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« Reply #2827 on: April 05, 2023, 07:57:57 pm »
Today is the day for BSC, announcement by the school is supposed to be at 12:30 central time, so a little more than 5 hours from now, 

This morning is going to go by especially slow.

Never mind, meeting has been postponed……..

This actually could be good news - that they're trying to finalize the funding needed to continue.  But at the same time it's excruciating to have to wait indefinitely - did they reschedule?

They say they are still meeting, even now at 7pm local. They say they will update tonight. I’m taking it as a good sign, if they were closing, it would have been announced already.  It I see this as they are still turning over rocks and poking bears.

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« Reply #2828 on: April 05, 2023, 09:12:59 pm »
Announcement now at 11am central tomorrow for BSC. Hopefully they’ll stick to it this time.

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Re: FB: Southern Athletic Association
« Reply #2829 on: April 06, 2023, 11:46:56 am »
they can't keep delaying forever.

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« Reply #2830 on: April 06, 2023, 12:02:05 pm »
I wandered over here from the MIAC board because I saw something on Twitter about BSC's potential closure.

My big question is: how did this information leak? You'd think that discussions of potential closure would be had only the highest levels with the first priority being confidentiality. This discussion being leaked to the public could cause all sorts of untold damage. If I'm a parent whose child is looking at BSC, the first thing I ask myself is whether it is worth going to a school that just about closed--especially with the 2026 demographic cliff coming.

I'm sure there's other nuance and speculation at play here. There's probably plenty I've missed, but wanted to join the discussion.
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« Reply #2831 on: April 06, 2023, 12:07:07 pm »
I wandered over here from the MIAC board because I saw something on Twitter about BSC's potential closure.

My big question is: how did this information leak? You'd think that discussions of potential closure would be had only the highest levels with the first priority being confidentiality. This discussion being leaked to the public could cause all sorts of untold damage. If I'm a parent whose child is looking at BSC, the first thing I ask myself is whether it is worth going to a school that just about closed--especially with the 2026 demographic cliff coming.

I'm sure there's other nuance and speculation at play here. There's probably plenty I've missed, but wanted to join the discussion.

The school itself made it public late last year.   You can get the gist of things by looking back in the archives of this channel.

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Re: FB: Southern Athletic Association
« Reply #2832 on: April 06, 2023, 12:08:46 pm »
11:08 now. This is like the scene from The Dark Knight where neither boat explodes because no one wants to pull the pin.

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Re: FB: Southern Athletic Association
« Reply #2833 on: April 06, 2023, 12:09:17 pm »
BSC is staying open!!!

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Re: FB: Southern Athletic Association
« Reply #2834 on: April 06, 2023, 12:10:41 pm »
Sing us a song, you're the piano man
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And you've got us feelin' alright.