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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2009, 10:44:20 PM
Keith was appearing solely by phone this week.

I haven't seen any MWC or MIAA schools.

OMG - I can actually one-up the guru on attendance! :o  I was at IWU @ Hope last year. 

If you ever want to take in an MIAA game - my treat.  If you want to save on a motel, I'll even bring my RV. ;)

Knightstalker

Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2009, 05:38:50 PM
I've seen 119 Division III teams play at 66 schools' stadiums.

How many teams have you seen that are now defunct?

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HSC85

Keith,

Great capsules on each conference.  It looks like many of the races are playing out like the predictions in Kickoff '09.

K-Mack

Quote from: redswarm81 on October 07, 2009, 06:49:42 PM
So I finally managed to listen to the ATN podcast, and it was enlightening/confusing, as I might have expected any discussion of top 25 poll voting to be.

Keith, you were obviously trapped in a cave or a dungeon somewhere.   But you did a good job of concealing your efforts to free yourself from whatever restraints kept you trapped in there.  :D

I especially enjoyed the effort to recite from memory the Wesley-Delaware Valley-Kean-Cortland State transitive chain of losses.  Well done!

Ultimately, the term "leap of faith" was well used (if you'll forgive my use of the passive voice).

Red,
I thought of you and some of your top 25 theory while discussing. I almost made it into another item for ATN, but ran out of gas/time. (I have it outlined though if you're interested)

The podcast sounds a lot better when Pat and I use official recording equipment ... like on weekends he didn't have to move his family into the house and my family stuff doesn't get in the way and we get to record it before midnight :)
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K-Mack

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on October 07, 2009, 11:04:46 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2009, 10:44:20 PM
Keith was appearing solely by phone this week.

I haven't seen any MWC or MIAA schools.

OMG - I can actually one-up the guru on attendance! :o  I was at IWU @ Hope last year. 

If you ever want to take in an MIAA game - my treat.  If you want to save on a motel, I'll even bring my RV. ;)

I have been to Hope.

Pat and I listed everywhere we'd been on a Dose post last year; Every time I go somewhere new I think about finding it and updating.

I think he's got me outdone by a few schools, but together we've seen quite a few ... nearly every conference. We also have sometimes made trips to schools when games were not being played.

(for instance, I once I saw the post-game scene & field at Beloit one time while driving back to Chicago from UW-Whitewater. I also once skipped out on my wife's family in Battle Creek, Mich. to visit Olivet and Albion)
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Managing Editor, Kickoff
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and one of the two voices behind the sonic #d3fb nerdery that is the ATN Podcast.

K-Mack

Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2009, 11:03:53 PM
Getting there.

You should see an MWC game this weekend. If you're ever going to, now is the time.

Quote from: HSC85 on October 08, 2009, 04:52:32 PM
Keith,

Great capsules on each conference.  It looks like many of the races are playing out like the predictions in Kickoff '09.

Thanks. I never know how useful that column is to readers; do people only care about their own team's conference, or do they want to be able to look in on races in other conferences without having to invest a lot of time following them.

Ultimately, I feel some of the latter which is why I do it.

Next week back to big ideas & interviews.
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Nastradamus, Triple Take
and one of the two voices behind the sonic #d3fb nerdery that is the ATN Podcast.

Wabash Fiji

loved the piece on the conferences... already pumped about the playoffs!!

WSUFan

Quote from: K-Mack on October 08, 2009, 11:14:18 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2009, 11:03:53 PM
Getting there.

You should see an MWC game this weekend. If you're ever going to, now is the time.

Quote from: HSC85 on October 08, 2009, 04:52:32 PM
Keith,

Great capsules on each conference.  It looks like many of the races are playing out like the predictions in Kickoff '09.

Thanks. I never know how useful that column is to readers; do people only care about their own team's conference, or do they want to be able to look in on races in other conferences without having to invest a lot of time following them.

Ultimately, I feel some of the latter which is why I do it.

Next week back to big ideas & interviews.

We usually get enough information from you guys... but, this is kind of like icing on the cake, so to speak. We don't have to peruse each message board and figure out how the conferences are going, we get a nice, clean wrap-up from your end!

And please, keep picking UW-L to get upset... I kinda like flying under the radar in the WIAC   ;)


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redswarm81

Quote from: K-Mack on October 08, 2009, 11:06:58 PM
Quote from: redswarm81 on October 07, 2009, 06:49:42 PM
So I finally managed to listen to the ATN podcast, and it was enlightening/confusing, as I might have expected any discussion of top 25 poll voting to be.

Keith, you were obviously trapped in a cave or a dungeon somewhere.   But you did a good job of concealing your efforts to free yourself from whatever restraints kept you trapped in there.  :D

I especially enjoyed the effort to recite from memory the Wesley-Delaware Valley-Kean-Cortland State transitive chain of losses.  Well done!

Ultimately, the term "leap of faith" was well used (if you'll forgive my use of the passive voice).

Red,
I thought of you and some of your top 25 theory while discussing. I almost made it into another item for ATN, but ran out of gas/time. (I have it outlined though if you're interested)


I'll wait for the final product.  My inner OCD-wannabe has enough triggers/distractions already.

Almost surprised to learn that I'm not the only person who believes that head-to-head results trump just about everything.   :D
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Ralph Turner

Quote from: K-Mack on October 07, 2009, 04:10:59 AM
This dude is dern near my idol:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/17/sports/ncaafootball/17cheer.html

Ralph, good insights. I looked at the ASC for the list, but except for the loss of Austin, it's been pretty much static for the D3 years. As you noted, all the major changes took place by 2000.

http://www.d3football.com/school/CORT/1999

As I was looking at the NJAC, I found this link to Cortland's schedule in 1999.

Look at all of the teams that were Independents in 1999.

The biggest change in D-III has been the Pool System...no doubt about it.

Team1999 RecordWhere they went
Pomona-Pitzer   7     1     .875Recommitted to the SCIAC in 2003
Westminster (Mo.)   8    2    .800SLIAC in '08 then affilaited with UMAC in '09
Buffalo State   7    3    .700Affiliated with ACFC in '04 and then NJAC in '06
Maryville (Tenn.)7    3    .700Affiliated with the USASouth in '05
Thomas More   7    3    .700Joined PresAC in 2005
Ithaca   7    4    .636E8 in 2002
Martin Luther   5    3    .625UMAC in 2008
Alfred   6    4 .600E8 in 2002
Brockport State   6    4 .600Affiliated with ACFC in '04 and NJAC in '08
Ferrum   6    4 .600USASouth in 2001
Hartwick   6    4 .600E8 in 2002
Chapman   5    4 .556Independent
Chowan   5    4 .556Last season in USASouth was 2003; now D-II CIAA
Cortland State   5    5 .500Affiliated with NJAC in 2000
Eastern Oregon   5    5 .500Now NAIA only.
Menlo   4    5    .444Affialiated with NWC in 2006
Mount Ida   3    4 .429Charter member of ECFC in 2009
Principia   3    5    .375SLIAC in 2008; did not field a team in 2009
Greensboro   3    6    .333USASouth in 2001
Methodist   3    7 .300USASouth in 2001
Maranatha Baptist   2    6 .250Charter member Northern Athletics Conference in 2008
Colorado College   2    7 .222SCAC in 2007; Discontinued the sport in 2009
Blackburn   2    8 .200SLIAC in 2008; Discontinued the sport in 2009
St. John Fisher   1    8 .111E8 in 2002
Oberlin   0    10    .000Recommitted the NCAC in 2000


Pat Coleman

Quote from: K-Mack on October 08, 2009, 11:14:18 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2009, 11:03:53 PM
Getting there.

You should see an MWC game this weekend. If you're ever going to, now is the time.


Unfortunately, Monmouth is about a nine-hour drive from me.  Or maybe fortunately, because in retrospect that was not a game that was worth that trip. :)

Yes, I have seen both Swarthmore and Jersey City State. Also seen Principia and Blackburn. I didn't include Swat and JCSC/NJCU in my count.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

BoBo

Quote from: WSUFan on October 10, 2009, 03:56:30 AM
And please, keep picking UW-L to get upset... I kinda like flying under the radar in the WIAC   ;)

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Hawks88

How rare is it for a team to run 100+ offense plays in a regulation game? Huntingdon has now done it twice in a row with exactly 100 against both Louisiana College and Millsaps and has had one opponent do it, Maryville with 104. I looked back through six seasons of our boxscores and the biggest numbers I found were 88 and 89 with 80 being broken only a few times. I'm not sure if anyone knows or has the time or inclination to research, but it would be interesting to know if what we have done is very unusual.

theoriginalupstate

Quote from: Hawks88 on October 11, 2009, 10:19:15 AM
How rare is it for a team to run 100+ offense plays in a regulation game? Huntingdon has now done it twice in a row with exactly 100 against both Louisiana College and Millsaps and has had one opponent do it, Maryville with 104. I looked back through six seasons of our boxscores and the biggest numbers I found were 88 and 89 with 80 being broken only a few times. I'm not sure if anyone knows or has the time or inclination to research, but it would be interesting to know if what we have done is very unusual.

That's pretty sick!