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#1
The student population is considered for all NESCAC rural campuses.  Retirees made their decisions to retire there knowing the school was there.  Local businesses and hospitals are what they are having considered the schools population as 75% there... so, I hear you, but not returning is just as damaging to those communities.
#2
Couple follow on points:

* Westerfield is gone, per the boys on campus.
* Hammer would tell you the type of athletes in place in Brunswick to run his defense is completely wrong.  MANY big body DL recruited by Wells got moved to OL bc Hammer needs basically DE's across the front to be effective.  He simply did not care, phase 1 is indoctrination to his philosophy, talent be damned, and winning now was not a consideration.
* I can only speak to my son, but he chose Bowdoin over Amherst, Williams, Tufts and Weslyan.   Wells did a good job selling him on being part of a turn around.  So, lots of factors go into it, not a simple as saying a winning tradition wins out.
#3
Quote from: lumbercat on November 19, 2019, 01:33:27 PM
Can't believe Gowetski at Bowdoin was snubbed.

That is a travesty..... there are NOT 10 LB in this league better than Gowetski.  Gross.
#4
Quote from: The Mole on November 06, 2019, 06:51:43 PM
Some great points made here. I will draw a parallel to the Ivy League, which has similar academic standards. The Patriot league used to beat them up 20-30 years ago. Now, even though the PL has 60 full equivalencies, most Ivy teams handle them head to head. There are a few exceptions like Brown, Cornell and Columbia, but for the most part it holds. Look at the head to head scores over the last 10-15 years. The Ivy is using the playbook described below to steal FCS and many times FBS players. I know its a bit different, but the approach is identical. It can be done. Princeton, Harvard, Dartmouth, Yale and Penn have gotten REALLY GOOD at it. This was mentioned in a prior post, but I am curious to see what Hammer does at Bowdoin. Wabash recruited hard in AZ. I think its "hitting them where they aint" in certain geographical areas. With the use of social media, you do not need the huge travel budget as much anymore. None of these institutions should cry poor. Makes you wonder is the "lack of commitment" a real factor or not--or does it just applt to certain schools in certain sports? Really good and thoughtful topic. 



Quote from: ColbyFootball on November 06, 2019, 06:20:30 PM
Quote from: footballluv on November 06, 2019, 04:21:34 PM

Location is a serious, serious challenge for the Maine schools - no doubt about it - but not an insurmountable one or those schools would stink at everything.   They don't and are in reality highly competitive in a number of sports.  So let me pose this question, one that I have posed to a good friend from Bowdoin - what are realistic goals for the Maine schools in football given history, location, etc?  In my view, CBB should aspire to be somewhere around .500 almost at best every year with a few outlier 7-2 years and maybe 2-7 years littered in the mix.   Maybe even a .400 winning percentage is a reasonable goal, again with an outlier or two along the way.   Setting long-term goals much higher than that is, IMHO, patently unrealistic and subject to great levels of disappointment.

The Maine schools will be better when they decide to recruit like Trinity. Diversifying both the locations and recruited player population. No need to seek forgiveness for being in beautiful Maine. Sell the location, education and opportunity to play and rock the boat. There are great students and borderline D1 players from my neck of the woods riding the benches at programs that have little to offer above the NESCACS  save their D1 status. Many of those guys could get the equivalent of full rides in Financial Aid and have no idea what they are missing. Cost more to deliver that message and build the network on HS coaches at player rich private schools in NJ, Md, Virginia, Delaware and DC. Many of these guys go on to play D3 Ball after riding the benches anyway and many meet and exceed NESCAC academic requirements but are hesitant to use ED status. A plan with focus is all that is needed. Reducing the academic standards is not needed. Some don't play after not getting scholarship offers. The 411 in the right hands is all and this league will change and get faster, bigger and stronger. I suspect "Hartford State" kinda labels that are thrown around on this board will accompany the 1st school that pulls this trigger. It is low hanging fruit in my informed opinion. There is not much of a D3 football tradition in my region. hit ADs and HS coaches and get the 411 out there and have a plan.  Some have played in HS programs that have teams that could compete in the NESCAC and  some can boast Hs teams with size talent and speed I I don't see in this league. Lots of motivated smart kids don't play because they don't know there is a place for them in this league. It would mean less opportunities for ME, VT, NH, MA, CT and RI boys.
I agree with you 1,000%. It's called building a program, and part of building it is selling it.
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I never understood/agreed with the often cited Location is an issue for the Main schools....  Tufts is the only one with a real advantage location-wise.   Willy Town, Amherst, Clinton got nothing on Brunswick...  the CT schools may have a "closer to home" advantage, but alot of the players are far from home anyway.... 
#5
Quote from: lumbercat on November 03, 2019, 07:09:33 PM
Quote from: JEFFFAN on November 03, 2019, 12:43:19 PM
Quote from: lumbercat on November 03, 2019, 12:04:52 AM
An open post to any Bowdoin followers-

Why did the entire Bowdoin team immediately exit the field at the end of the game. Thats the first time in NESCAC history I've ever seen a team not participate in the end of game handshake???

Apparently the Bates fans stormed the field and were celebrating with the Bates players when the game ended, so Bowdoin opted to head into the locker room.  No harm, no foul.


Jeffan

You are correct the Bates fans did storm the field but it took the fans some time to get on the field with Bates Security staff trying to hold them back. I saw the entire Bowdoin team and coaching staff vacate the sideline immediately after the final gun. It didn't look like a spontaneous action. Hammer then turned around and jogged back to shake Coach Halls hand.

Ironically it was an identical set of circumstances to the night game in Brunswick last year. Bowdoin fans stormed the field and the Bates team and coaching staff stuck around and waited to do the traditional handshake.

I've got to say that no JB Wells Bowdoin team ever performed like the Polar Bears did yesterday. They did the same thing all day- totally predictable with no halftime adjustments. Bates HCOF Hall and OC Patterson schooled Hammer and his kid OC. That didn't happen when Wells was there. I shouldn't complain- would much rather face this coaching staff than Wells and Vial.

For the last time I'll say Wells got railroaded at Bowdoin in favor of a young neophyte coaching staff that inherited some very good personnel. 

Maybe Hammer will have them ready next week. The young Bowdoin OC
needs to be more creative with Richam. The Bates defensive game plan was totally centered on #6. Cosgrove will do the same thing next week so maybe the the Polar Bear OC can bring some different wrinkles to get more production out of one of the elite backs in the conference.

Richam and LB Gowetski are two of the very best players in the NESCAC. Both deserve some All conference recognition.

Hammer will not have them ready for next week.   What you are witnessing is "PHASE ONE" of Hammer's plan.. not sure if you read the article in the Orient....   It does not fit his narrative to win any games this year.  They are focused on developing young talent to show marked improvement year over year to solidify his position.  Winning anything this year doesn't fit the narrative.  At the risk of sounding like sour grapes... there are players on the team that started every snap they were available under Wells that rarely touch the field this year.   The Bates game was the first this season that Hammer was actually on the sideline... he is typically in the booth all game.
#6
Quote from: lumbercat on November 03, 2019, 12:04:52 AM
An open post to any Bowdoin followers-

Why did the entire Bowdoin team immediately exit the field at the end of the game. Thats the first time in NESCAC history I've ever seen a team not participate in the end of game handshake???

Lumbercat,   that's HCOF Hammer...   he barely lets the boys stop by the tailgate before they load on the bus...
#7
Quote from: Jonny Utah on October 24, 2019, 09:42:03 AM


Good stuff:

"We need to become more aggressive. I wouldn't mind a few aggressive penalties, to be honest with you, because we need to start developing a little bit of an edge in the attitude around here," said Hammer. "Don't get [me] wrong, I don't want penalties, but football's not a soft sport. You can't be soft and play on the edge ... in football."

Wondering if he loved Joe Gowestki's facemask where he almost ripped the quarterbacks head off....

There are a handful of players that could start for any team... Goewetski is certainly one of them.
#8
Bowdoin Orient article w/ BJ Hammer laying out his thoughts/approach.  Interesting motivation techniques....

https://bowdoinorient.com/2019/10/04/faced-with-more-of-the-same-bowdoin-football-takes-the-long-view/
#9
Quote from: bantamweight on September 10, 2019, 01:04:48 PM
Quote from: Hawk196 on September 10, 2019, 11:56:38 AM
I bring this up and I know it's a sore spot for the Trinity fans, but 34% acceptance(and no SAT scores) vs 15% acceptance rate definitely has something to do with Trinity's dominance and the talent they attract

Wesleyan is test-optional. Stop making excuses for whatever program you like that doesn't win.

Bowdoin is also test optional....
#10
Where is Nescacman?????
#11
Richam is absolutely the real deal... I've watched every game he's played.   He has made some brilliant runs with an O-Line that has most often been over matched (and injury riddled).  Richam is healthy as is the O-line.  Speculative, yes.  Optimisitic, yes.  Homer....yes.   But, Richam will raise some eyebrows this season.  and the O-line returns all starters with the exception of Mansolillo and a handful of underclassmen that got substantial snaps last season.   Talent is relative, but the PB's look as good as they have in the last 5years.

#12
Quote from: gridiron on July 31, 2019, 02:25:27 AM
There is concern by some close to the football programs that the temperature may be too cold for a night game in Maine that time of year.

Too cold???  This is football, not squash...
#13
The Bowdoin/Colby game was originally listed at 5:30 as well, then was changed to TBA.  Not sure what that means, but the atmosphere at the Bowdoin/Bates game last year was electric!!  So, hope they do it at night again.
#14
Question for the group - If a player that graduates undergrad from a NESCAC school with one more year of eligibility, can they play for one of the schools that has graduate programs after graduating from another NESCAC? 
#15
Quote from: lumbercat on May 02, 2019, 10:33:57 PM
Quote from: Eagle322 on May 02, 2019, 10:44:18 AM
JB Wells has been active on Twitter these past few days, engaging with posts re: the incoming Bates class. I wonder if he has landed on his feet in Lewiston?

I draw the same conclusion 5-7 but not sure if they have that expense in the budget. Time will tell.

If so,  that HAS to be a stop gap for a year... NO WAY JB stays in the NESCAC as an assistant.