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East Region football / Re: FB: New Jersey Athletic Conference
« Last post by WRMUalum13 on Today at 02:01:55 pm »
^ the vast majority of players are still from Ohio
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North Region football / Re: FB: Ohio Athletic Conference
« Last post by wesleydad on Today at 01:35:00 pm »
Wesleydad

Seems you can't forget the series stands: Mount Union 5. Wesley 0.

The pass for the touchdown is something we have seen all year. (I have seen 9 games, and you?)
A great QB throwing to a great receiver with great hands. Been done before. No knockdown, no interception. Just a TD,

The safety was caused because of the pressure from the defense, strong rush and good coverage in the secondary. Number 1 put them in a hole - he did not cause the safety. Credit ti UMU.

So the teams were about even? Seems Mount was a little more even than UMHB. The Crusaders scored zero (0), Mount scored 12. Some of the individual stats were close, but only one stat really matters.

UMHB had a great year. A good team in a good program. They'll be back next year, back in the playoffs, back contending for a national championship. But last night, Mount Union was, not so surprisingly, Mount Union. 

There's always next year, for all of us. We start over in August!

MUC, get a clue.  I don't care how Mount has done against Wesley, that has no bearing on my opinion about the game.  You are a Mount fan and only see the game through purple glasses.  The TD was lucky, plain and simple.  The safety was a result of a player trying to make a play and putting his team in a hole.  Of course the pressure and sack get the credit for the safety, but if Wilkerson heads up field as he normally would the ball would not have been on the 3 to start with.  The teams are even, if you think otherwise than you have less of a clue than I thought.  This was a 3-0 game in the 4th, both teams were struggling on offense against 2 top defenses.  Enjoy the win, but try to be honest when you actually assess the game.  If you can't, don't bother trying to explain things, just be a Mount fan.
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East Region football / Re: FB: New Jersey Athletic Conference
« Last post by wesleydad on Today at 01:28:16 pm »
Got back from the Stagg Bowl and saw 2 teams playing a game at a different level than anyone in the east does.  The speed is different and we knew that, but the execution of game plans to stop other superior teams is in my opinion the difference.  You also have to have the athletes to execute the game plans and these 2 teams have them all over the field, not just in 5 or 6 or so positions and that will always make it tough for the East and in the end most of D3 to compete for a national title.
Totally agree with you Wesleydad and congrats for braving the elements. I wish the east could always have our own bracket because it determines the best regional team(although Frostburg may argue that). I really think it is almost impossible for the East to recruit the level of athletes at all positions to really compete with the top 2-3 teams nationally...but it will be fun trying. This years Brockport team is about as good as the East gets and they had their chances against UMHB, but in the end , the best team won the Stagg, although if I were an Oshkosh fan I would be hitting my head against the wall for losing a 35-7 lead against UMU in the semi's. I actually think Oshkosh was the #2 team in the end, as UMHB was too one dimensional.
Good luck to the Wolverines and the NJAC next year.

When you have a team like UMU recruiting a large portion of their athletes from Florida, you can't compete with that level of athleticism.  Most DIII teams tend not to recruit like a DI program.

-Ski
Ski, this is true, UMU can pitch "come to Mount Union and be part of a Championship"(especially if you were passed on by the D1 recruiters), that is why the Oshkosh results were note worthy this year with almost entirely Wisconsin boys with a few border crossers from Illinois.

Just to play devil's advocate Mount Union recruits like a D1 program partially out of necessity. They have a lot more competition for highly talented local guys than a school like UWO does.

For example:

There are 2 division 2 schools in the same county as Mount Union (Walsh and Malone)
There's another division 2 school within 1.5 hours of Mount Union (Ashland)
There's an FCS school less than 1 hour away (Youngstown State)
There are 2 MAC schools less than 1 hour away (Kent and Akron)
There are 2 OAC rivals within 1.5 hours (JCU and Baldwin Wallace)

Sure, Mount doesn't recruit directly against FCS or FBS schools but I can imagine they lose a lot of talented walk ons to them. Kevin Burke was told he could walk on at a MAC school, but luckily he chose D3.

I'm not saying recruiting nationally doesn't give Mount an advantage it does, and they are able to do it, becuase of their legacy and national exposure on ESPN etc. However, I think it's important to put their position in context. If Brett Kasper or Dylan Hecker played High school ball in Northeast Ohio and they wanted to play college football at a local level think about how many options they'd have compared to in Wisconsin.

Ski, I just dont think that is true.  I do not believe they recruit a large part of their team from Florida.  I did not look at the roster, but I figure most of the team is from Ohio.  They have an edge when it comes to brand recognition, but to marginalize their success to kids from Florida is wrong.  They are better based on many things; the coaching staff seldom gets out coached, the players are team oriented and give up personal stats for the good of the team, teams are intimidated by the name, they are more disciplined than most teams, etc.  If the only reason they are winning more than others is because they recruit kids from Florida than I would think more teams would do it.  There are good players all over the country, getting them to perform at the top level is what separates the best from the rest.
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North Region football / Re: FB: Ohio Athletic Conference
« Last post by Kira & Jaxon's Dad on Today at 01:15:53 pm »
Here's my breakdown:

Based on the Two-Deep from the Stagg Bowl, here are the returners for UMU in 2018

1st Team Offense:
QB   12   D’Angelo Fulford (So)
LT   78   Frazier Daniel (So)
RG   68   Brandon Klaus (So)
RB     6   Jawanza Evans-Morris (Jr)
WR     1   Justin Hill (So)
TE     7   Cole Moxie (Jr)

Losing:  Irizarry-LG, Parrish-C, Fitchet-RT, Ruth-WR (Possible Redshirt Year for 2015 injury), Friss-WR, Louthan-PK

2nd Team Offense:
QB   10   Luke Poorman (So)
LT   72   Sean Sherman (So)
LG   70   Jonny Todd (So)
C   59   Joey Presutti (Fr)
RG   52   Travis Stitka (So)
RB   23   Josh Petruccelli (Fr)
WR   17   Luke Herrington (So)
TE   82   Joe Koscielski (Jr)

Losing:  Stanton-RT, McGill-WR, Haynes-WR

1st Team Defense:
MLB     4   Danny Robinson (Jr)
WLB   43   Trey Williams (So)
SS   15   Trevor Cox (Jr)
WS   20   Austin White (Jr)
CB   27   Gabe Brown (So)
CB   33   Louis Berry (Jr)
P   30   Adam Snyder (Jr)

Losing:  Berry-DT, Mihoci-NT, Vidal-DE, Wilder-BT, Dear-WLB, Crenshaw-SPR,
Groves-DB (Injured towards end of year)

2nd Team Defense:
DT   90   Andrew Roesch (So)
NT   55   Adam Pastor (So)
DE   97   Ethan McComb (So)
BT     9   Cameron Celetti (Fr)
MLB   43   Trey Williams (So)
WLB   5     Mitch O'hara (F)
SPR   37   Nick Brish (Jr)
SS     9   Mitch Evans (So)
WS   35   Kordell Ford (Fr)
CB   10   Tanner Murray (Fr)
CB   12   Richard Morris (S0)

Losing:  Trey Williams started for Charlie Dear in the Stagg Bowl, so I'm not sure who the other 2nd Team LB was for the Stagg (Game Notes weren't updated for the Dear injury).
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Ypsi'd boys
Psh
Rm
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North Region football / Re: FB: Ohio Athletic Conference
« Last post by raiderpa on Today at 01:06:32 pm »
It could be awfully expensive to come back, just to play football, unless he needs credits to graduate.  I don't know what kind of academic load he would have to carry, but tuition is not cheap.
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More importantly, as a life lesson to all those kids that consider you a role model, you just can't lie to them and not have him on your fantasy team.

Besides, what better feeling is there than to have Patron make a bucket and you stand up and yell, "That guy's on my fantasy team..."
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East Region football / Re: FB: New Jersey Athletic Conference
« Last post by WRMUalum13 on Today at 01:02:40 pm »
Got back from the Stagg Bowl and saw 2 teams playing a game at a different level than anyone in the east does.  The speed is different and we knew that, but the execution of game plans to stop other superior teams is in my opinion the difference.  You also have to have the athletes to execute the game plans and these 2 teams have them all over the field, not just in 5 or 6 or so positions and that will always make it tough for the East and in the end most of D3 to compete for a national title.
Totally agree with you Wesleydad and congrats for braving the elements. I wish the east could always have our own bracket because it determines the best regional team(although Frostburg may argue that). I really think it is almost impossible for the East to recruit the level of athletes at all positions to really compete with the top 2-3 teams nationally...but it will be fun trying. This years Brockport team is about as good as the East gets and they had their chances against UMHB, but in the end , the best team won the Stagg, although if I were an Oshkosh fan I would be hitting my head against the wall for losing a 35-7 lead against UMU in the semi's. I actually think Oshkosh was the #2 team in the end, as UMHB was too one dimensional.
Good luck to the Wolverines and the NJAC next year.

When you have a team like UMU recruiting a large portion of their athletes from Florida, you can't compete with that level of athleticism.  Most DIII teams tend not to recruit like a DI program.

-Ski
Ski, this is true, UMU can pitch "come to Mount Union and be part of a Championship"(especially if you were passed on by the D1 recruiters), that is why the Oshkosh results were note worthy this year with almost entirely Wisconsin boys with a few border crossers from Illinois.

Just to play devil's advocate Mount Union recruits like a D1 program partially out of necessity. They have a lot more competition for highly talented local guys than a school like UWO does.

For example:

There are 2 division 2 schools in the same county as Mount Union (Walsh and Malone)
There's another division 2 school within 1.5 hours of Mount Union (Ashland)
There's an FCS school less than 1 hour away (Youngstown State)
There are 2 MAC schools less than 1 hour away (Kent and Akron)
There are 2 OAC rivals within 1.5 hours (JCU and Baldwin Wallace)

Sure, Mount doesn't recruit directly against FCS or FBS schools but I can imagine they lose a lot of talented walk ons to them. Kevin Burke was told he could walk on at a MAC school, but luckily he chose D3.

I'm not saying recruiting nationally doesn't give Mount an advantage it does, and they are able to do it, becuase of their legacy and national exposure on ESPN etc. However, I think it's important to put their position in context. If Brett Kasper or Dylan Hecker played High school ball in Northeast Ohio and they wanted to play college football at a local level think about how many options they'd have compared to in Wisconsin.
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Does anybody have a feel for UNE team for next fall..
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