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#1
Quote from: SpringSt7 on December 18, 2023, 01:06:41 PM
I know there are a number of different voices and opinions on this board so I don't expect there to be a consistent consensus but struggling with how last week and the week before it was "anyone can do what Fetter did at Trinity" and now it's "Fetter should be an AA". For whatever it's worth, I think Fetter was under appreciated for his 3 years but by no stretch was he an All-American type of player. Not sure who the last NESCAC QB was that should've been in that conversation but it isn't him.

Many posters on this board like to complain about Nescac players being slighted for national honors, but few seem to understand the difference in how football is played among the perennial contenders and the top teams in this conference.  Fetter had a very impressive career, but he was only a threat throwing the football.  Carter St. John, Alma's 4th team all-America selection, not only threw for 38 touchdowns, but ran for 8 more, gaining 444 net yards over the course of the season.  First team selection Luke Lehman threw for 48 touchdowns while scoring 13 on the ground.  He had 850 net yards rushing and averaged 57 per game.  While Fetter's passing statistics become somewhat comparable to these QBs when prorated to reflect 2-3 postseason games, the fact remains that he's a one-dimensional player.

The same was true of Middlebury's Mac Foote, who in 2013 was one of 4 finalists for the Gagliardi Trophy.  He was not an all-American selection that season.  He actually had better stats in 2012 and apart from interceptions and overall efficiency rating was more impressive than Fetter was this past season.  In 8 games he threw for 2897 yards at a 64% clip, with 31 TDs and 8 interceptions while averaging 362 ypg.  But, like Fetter, opponents didn't worry about his ability to run the ball.  That means with 240 other competitors to choose from, neither were apt to be on the all-American selectors' radar.  Two recent Nescac QBs with the skill sets to earn such an honor were Bobby Maimaron and Will Jernigan.  We can only speculate on what would have happened if their 9-0 squads had been allowed to play postseason and won a game or two, but without that opportunity the all-American QB position won't be awarded to anyone in this conference.



   
#2
Quote from: NESCACFball24/7 on November 21, 2023, 09:51:45 PM
I know we spend alot of time talking about the top programs in the league but does anybody know what's going up in Clinton? Have they just accepted not giving the program the support they need? Even Bates has seems to turn a corner with the support from the school. Granted Hamilton had an update they pulled off this year, they have accomplished literally nothing in the last decade+. Frankly doing their players and coaches a disservice. If/when that job becomes open it gotta be one of the least desirable programs in all of college football to try and take over and turn around.

It's been so long since the Continentals won their Classic rivalry game against the Panthers, it's not surprising the folks running the show there are off their rocker.
#3
I hate to go off topic here and talk about football, but there are still a couple of important games to be played.  While nobody really expects Middlebury to lose to Colby on Saturday, it should be pointed out that the Mules did defeat Wesleyan, the only blemish on the Middlebury slate, to-date, and they will be winding up the season on their home turf.  I truly believe I saw Cole Kennon running around on the field celebrating with his teammates following the victory over Tufts, but when Brian Moran suffered what seemed to be an ankle sprain after replacing the injured starter, it was third string QB Nick Perez who finished the closely contested game.  N-man, your Middlebury guy ought to have the straight poop on this story.  Would you care to share it with the rest of us? 
#4
Quote from: Charlie on September 28, 2023, 09:25:36 PM
Quote from: lumbercat on September 28, 2023, 08:41:14 PM
Or maybe doesn't understand rules, i.e. All NESCAC Football Programs will maintain rosters with a "maximum of 76 players"
How does anybody not get that.

Call me off base but I honestly think the guy is a plant. Just playing games, the whole Charlie persona is a gag, a joke. Nobody is that far out there time after time.

I am not out there i was asking if Medical redshirt guys are exempt fom roster limits and how it was handled in the past. No need to get crazy. No idea what other instances you are referring to.

Charlie,

Do we pay you enough for providing the comic relief on this board?
#5
Quote from: Scoops on July 09, 2023, 12:28:09 PM
You're not the one I'm worried about haha

Quote from: SpringSt7 on July 09, 2023, 11:41:59 AM
I can guarantee that at least one of us does.

The QB (Jernigan) is the easy observation to make.  Middlebury's 2019 receiving corps included Maxwell Rye, Maxim Bochman, Greg Livingston and Frank Cosolito.  Rye was the team leader in receptions (36) and yardage (601).  The other three's stats were very similar with yardage totals of 367, 355 and 353.  The TE in the group Frank Cosolito, who "carried that team" along with "the QB", garnered the smallest of those totals and of the 17 receiving TDs scored by the offense, contributed 2 of them.  Charlie, and a few others among you, this is the NESCAC.  Please learn to do your homework.
#6
Quote from: GroundandPound on July 08, 2023, 12:53:05 PM
44 for Midd not returning this fall but their punter is returning. Run game for Midd is needed via jimmies and joes and via X s  And O s.

Cole Crider must have taken the 2021 Spring semester off and foregone the abbreviated baseball season.  I hadn't considered that possibility but now see that he isn't listed on that roster.  Very good news.  I'm puzzled as to why John McCool isn't returning since based on the info provided in his football bio he has the academic eligibility to play another season at Middlebury.   
#7
Quote from: Scoops on July 08, 2023, 08:05:33 AM
If Middlebury is relying on Maldijan coming back, then they will continue to be largely ineffective in their run game. To my knowledge, he's coming off two pretty severe knee injuries, which is essentially a death penalty as a RB. Even IF he is able to come back, what are the realistic chances that he's able to regain the form that made him ROY in the first place? It's truly unfortunate how things have unfolded for him, as I hear he is a phenomenal person and teammate. You have to feel bad for the kid given all his promise as an athlete. But if Coach Mandigo is going to win games, he has to have a better answer at that position.

Scoops, I wasn't particularly optimistic about Maldjian's ability to return, but without knowing the nature of his injuries I was hoping for the best.  I used to have a good source of insider info concerning Middlebury athletics, but she had the audacity to retire from the MC coaching ranks seven or eight years ago. 

As for MC's winning without a credible ground attack, the Panthers have seldom had much of a running game over the past two decades, although I agree the group returning this season does look lean, even by Middlebury standards. 
#8
Quote from: GroundandPound on July 07, 2023, 02:40:30 PM
The Mole, what are your thoughts on this so far?

Re-Revised top 3 NESCAC Position Groups 2023
QBs: Tufts, Trinity, Middlebury
WR:  Tufts, Middlebury Trinity
RBs: Trinity, Bowdoin, Colby
TEs: Hamilton, Wesleyan, ?
OL: Trinity, Tufts, Williams
DL: Wesleyan, Tufts, Middlebury
LBs: Colby, Tufts, Trinity
DBs: Tufts, Middlebury, Bowdoin
Punter:  Middlebury, Trinity, Tufts
K: Trinity, Williams, Middlebury

As a Middlebury fan, I have a few comments.  As much as I'd love to see punter Cole Crider back next fall, I'm quite certain he's gone the way of the diploma.  He's listed on the 2020 season practice roster and has a bio mugshot for each of the four academic years.  Secondly, while he has carried the football for only 131 yards and suffered two season ending injuries since the 2019 season,  FY Alex Maldjian earned Co-ROY honors at running back that year, scoring 10 rushing TDs while averaging just over 100 ypg.  Having missed all of the '21 slate, he was very rusty in last season's opener against Amherst, as well as in the first half of the Wesleyan game.  In the second stanza, however, he seemed to have found his rhythm again, gaining about 60 yards before the second injury occurred with just over two minutes remaining.  I know nothing about the nature of the injuries, but if he can still play football he's eligible for the coming season.  He was not a member of the 2020 practice squad, and was listed as a junior in 2022.  If he does decide to play, he ought to be among the better running backs in the conference.
#9
Quote from: nescac1 on April 25, 2023, 11:03:47 AM
Just to change it up, who would folks list as contenders for OPOTY, DPOTY, and ROTY heading into next season (the last category being massively speculative, of course). 

OPOTY, I'd say: Michael Berlutti, Spencer Fetter, Mario Fischetti, Andre Eden, Donovan Wood as the top five contenders.  Other guys to watch: Sean Clapp, Jayden Richardson, Travis Cepalia, Keon Smart. 


A preseason injury limited Middlebury's Cole Kennon 2022 season to six games, so he wasn't included among the conference passing leaders.  If he had been, the comparative numbers would have looked like this. 

Berluti  9 games  199-287  69.3%  2752-yds  305.8/G  26-TD  3-int  177.7-efficiency

Fetter   9 games  188-279  67.4%  2401-yds  266.8/G  22-TD  5-int  162.1-efficiency

Kennon 6 games  133-222  60.5%  1854-yds  309.0/G  24-TD  4-int  163.6-efficiency
#10
I hope everyone enjoyed a pleasant holiday with family and friends.  We NY Giants fans aren't as thankful as we'd hoped to be.

Considering the moniker I use, I should to have mentioned some of this when we were discussing the merits of recruiting outside the NE-NY-NJ region.  Better late than never.

All-NESCAC Team selections of the past two seasons show that Middlebury has had success recruiting in the Nashville Metropolitan area.  One of the 2021 2nd Team linebackers was Montgomery Bell Academy's Gordon Pollock.  He didn't postpone his graduation to play a fourth season but over the three he participated in he missed only two games and earned a starting role as a senior.  Joining him on that All-NESCAC roster was another MBA product, punter Cole Crider, who earned 1st Special Team recognition and did the same this season.  Middlebury's Cole Kennon is another Nashvillian out of Ensworth High School, and while filling the two all conference QB slots with Berluti and Fetter was a no-brainer, it's not unfair to suggest that had he been healthy to play the full season, he'd have been in the candidate mix.  The 24 TD passes that Kennon threw in six games put him at #4 in the MC season record book.  One of them was a 17 yarder to Cole Crider who also played some at TE.

Brentwood Academy is another Nashville Metro school with players on the Middlebury roster.  One is Grant Yocam, a WR who came back for his fourth season seeing action in 18 games as a Panther.  He caught a few passes including a 22 grab against Amherst in 2019.  Another, Sophomore OL Josh Mondzelewski, is possibly awaiting his turn to play, assuming he can accept the idea of protecting an ex-Ensworth quarterback.  All three schools play each other.  MBA is 12-0, ranked #2 in the state and will play for the state title against #3 Baylor-Chattanooga who beat #5 Brentwood 44-39 last weekend.  Ensworth finished it's season ranked #9.

Only two other NESCAC teams include players from any of these three schools.   Worthy of mention is Ensworth's Cal Archdeacon, a junior DL who played well in six games for Amherst this season.   He had three tackles, a sack and a 6 yard TFL against Middlebury; and five tackles with a 9 yard TFL against Williams.   Ironically, Bowdoin's OL Brandon Krupp, who repeated as a 2nd Team selection, is a Brentwood native but attended prep school in Arizona.

#11
Quote from: jmcozenlaw on November 14, 2022, 03:33:05 PM
Quote from: bantamweight on November 14, 2022, 08:14:14 AM
Quote from: Bluenote on November 14, 2022, 01:51:26 AM
Would you guys relate to yourselves as nerds or terds? Just wondering....

Don't worry about how we refer to ourselves up here in the C-suite. You just keep referring to us as Boss.

There is only one 'Boss'...............and He resides in heaven. The rest of us are just place keepers biding time until we bite the dust.

And unless those in the C-suite (where I worked, miserably, but golden handcuffed, for years, in corporate law.........P&G, PepsiCo, etc........before getting religion, working for myself and managing money for high and ultra-high net worth folks) actually ownt eh company, nobody os the "boss".

My checks never came from the clown who half assed my annual review, it came from the entity. The employees whom I managed did not work for me. I didn't pay them. I didn't own the company. They worked with me, not for me.

Get off the high horse. The C-suite blows. Most who put their backsides in those seats are pompous asses.........and they are nobody's boss.

My bosses are in heaven and so are yours, so live wisely, give plenty of your time and resources.........and drop the C-suite and boss nonsense, it impresses nobody other than the few clowns who are wrongly impressed by it.

Carry on though. ;)

Not to offend anyone's boss, whatever be the case, but it should be pointed out that the source of this fascinating end-of-season dialogue is a Linfield football fan who does most of his posting on the Region 6 boards.  He only uses this board for trolling.  He seems to have had a pretty good day.
#12
Quote from: SpringSt7 on November 02, 2022, 07:26:55 PM
Quote from: Vandy74 on November 02, 2022, 05:29:18 PM
Quote from: jumpshot on November 02, 2022, 12:27:25 PM
Yet another nice try by jefffan caught by multiple knowledgeable folks....

Actually he just got his facts confused.  If you search "Dave Hixon vs Williams college basketball" the first link brought up informs you that his teams defeated the Ephs in 17 of their last 21 meetings.

That number sounds wrong too but I'm not as confident. Either way it's lopsided. Those 2019 games, man...

From the Amherst Basketball site:

Legendary Amherst College head men's basketball coach David Hixon '75, who holds the record for number of wins in a single sport while coaching at Amherst, has decided to retire, Director of Athletics Donald Faulstick announced today. During his storied 42-season career at his alma mater, Hixon was the third coach in men's basketball history across all National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) divisions to surpass the 800-win mark. His overall record of 826-293 places him 15th on the NCAA's list of most wins in men's collegiate basketball.

Additionally, Hixon's Amherst teams defeated archrival Williams in 17 of the last 21 contests the two schools played.
#13
Quote from: jumpshot on November 02, 2022, 12:27:25 PM
Yet another nice try by jefffan caught by multiple knowledgeable folks....

Actually he just got his facts confused.  If you search "Dave Hixon vs Williams college basketball" the first link brought up informs you that his teams defeated the Ephs in 17 of their last 21 meetings. 
#14
Quote from: Nescacman on October 19, 2022, 06:19:48 PM
Quote from: Vandy74 on October 19, 2022, 05:55:07 PM
Quote from: middhoops on October 19, 2022, 05:23:40 PM
Oops, my bad.  Sorry.

I'm not sure why you're apologizing, Cuz.  Everybody knows that teams ranked in a tie are listed alphabetically but it seems that knowing one' A,B,C's is not required for admission to Wesleyan.  Btw, which class at MC were you in, again
?

Wesleyan listed first in honor of John Wesley, the founder of the University...J before M... ;D

Well, if you want to get technical. ::)  Middhoops and I knew John Wesley as a well-liked chemistry and physics teacher from our high school days.  He was the same denomination as your guy, but probably of a different flock.   Impressive bit of name dropping there, N-man.  +K! 8-)
#15
Quote from: middhoops on October 19, 2022, 05:23:40 PM
Oops, my bad.  Sorry.

I'm not sure why you're apologizing, Cuz.  Everybody knows that teams ranked in a tie are listed alphabetically but it seems that knowing one's A,B,C's is not required for admission to Wesleyan.  Btw, which class at MC were you in, again
?