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Poll
Question: Who wins the battle of top 10's tomorrow afternoon?
Option 1: #6/7 Shenandoah Univ.
Option 2: #2/4 Cortland (N.Y.) State
Title: BB: General South Region Talk 2011
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 11, 2010, 08:43:58 PM
Here is the message board for general South Region talk for the 2011 Season.
Title: Re: BB: General South Region Talk 2011
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 09, 2011, 05:35:28 PM
Brought from another board...
Quote from: NoVa Baseball on January 08, 2011, 10:52:19 AM
Great - NCAA announces all the other Regional locations except ...... the South.  Anybody hearing any rumors about potential South locations?
South Region Post-season tourney site for 2011 is still "TBA".
Title: Early season battle of top 10's....
Post by: Will2Win on February 17, 2011, 09:47:36 PM
What do you guys think???
Title: Re: Early season battle of top 10's....
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 17, 2011, 10:21:31 PM
Quote from: bossman on February 17, 2011, 09:47:36 PM
What do you guys think???
Shenandoah, home field advantage.
Title: Re: BB: General South Region Talk 2011
Post by: cnu13 on February 23, 2011, 07:36:46 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 17, 2011, 10:21:31 PM
Quote from: bossman on February 17, 2011, 09:47:36 PM
What do you guys think???
Shenandoah, home field advantage.

while i have no idea where it will be, that is a terrible comment about SU having home advantage. I hope you are a fan of SU or have a child playing for them because if not, you jumped on the bandwagon. While they are a great team(not taking that away from them), it is always a fight this year and there are many teams who are playing worthy enough to take over the top spot in the USAS.
Title: Re: BB: General South Region Talk 2011
Post by: Will2Win on February 23, 2011, 08:58:59 PM
Quote from: cnu13 on February 23, 2011, 07:36:46 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 17, 2011, 10:21:31 PM
Quote from: bossman on February 17, 2011, 09:47:36 PM
What do you guys think???
Shenandoah, home field advantage.

while i have no idea where it will be, that is a terrible comment about SU having home advantage. I hope you are a fan of SU or have a child playing for them because if not, you jumped on the bandwagon. While they are a great team(not taking that away from them), it is always a fight this year and there are many teams who are playing worthy enough to take over the top spot in the USAS.


Haha, I would agree with the home field advantage point being made CNU13 but to go as far as to say "jumping on the bandwagon" is a bit over the top on your behalf! Last time I checked SU has made more appearances in the D3 College World Series in the last two years than CNU....So...until you step up to the plate and make something happen i'd watch what I asked for. I'm pretty sure SU will be paying a visit to good ole Newport News in a few months   :o ::) ;D
Title: Re: BB: General South Region Talk 2011
Post by: cnu13 on February 27, 2011, 11:21:54 PM
Quote from: bossman on February 23, 2011, 08:58:59 PM
Quote from: cnu13 on February 23, 2011, 07:36:46 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 17, 2011, 10:21:31 PM
Quote from: bossman on February 17, 2011, 09:47:36 PM
What do you guys think???
Shenandoah, home field advantage.

while i have no idea where it will be, that is a terrible comment about SU having home advantage. I hope you are a fan of SU or have a child playing for them because if not, you jumped on the bandwagon. While they are a great team(not taking that away from them), it is always a fight this year and there are many teams who are playing worthy enough to take over the top spot in the USAS.


Haha, I would agree with the home field advantage point being made CNU13 but to go as far as to say "jumping on the bandwagon" is a bit over the top on your behalf! Last time I checked SU has made more appearances in the D3 College World Series in the last two years than CNU....So...until you step up to the plate and make something happen i'd watch what I asked for. I'm pretty sure SU will be paying a visit to good ole Newport News in a few months   :o ::) ;D


I am not taking anything away from SU. They are a great team, top to bottom. I cant wait till they make it to NN in April. Ill be there cheering on CNU as always but it'll be good to see the two top teams(as i view them) in the USAS and the northern region(both debatable, but remember these are my predictions. you can tell me i'm wrong and that you think differently but i'm clearing this up now, these are my predictions). It'll be a great region this year if the teams play this well. And i sand bandwagon fans it because i do not know the background of the people talking on here and much of the stuff sounds like a outsider fan. But if you have loyalty to SU, more power to you. You know where my allegiances lie, i'm just trying to start some smack talking.
Title: Re: BB: General South Region Talk 2011
Post by: PNeal7 on February 28, 2011, 03:58:00 PM
As much as it pains me to say, I have to agree that Shenandoah is hands down to South Region favorite right now. Until someone proves they can knock them off, in a tournament, then the title is in Winchester until it is taken away. SU plays at a whole different level in a "tournament" setting. That isn't saying they don't play at a high level or intensity during the regular season, because they 100% do. However, playing them in a tournament setting is tough.

As usual, the South Region will be fun to watch.
Title: Re: BB: General South Region Talk 2011
Post by: Boysofsummer21 on March 02, 2011, 08:15:51 PM
Well I don't know about anyone else but I have to say that this year (sorry PNeal) the USA South is beastly. If I am an out of conference team I don't even want to drive with 100 miles of any of these schools. Wow SU is pounding people, CNU is just winning, and MU is getting stronger everyday. I am to the point of just asking them to have a conference tourny that last about a month. GO USA South. 
Title: Re: BB: General South Region Talk 2011
Post by: PNeal7 on March 03, 2011, 07:30:02 AM
I agree completely boysofsummer21. The USAS is shaping up to again be one of the toughest conferences in the nation, and return to that #1 ranking of a few years back. At this point in the year, you seem to have 3 teams out of the USAS that could go into a Regional Tournament and compete at a high level. I'll be the 1st to admit that the USAS was down last year. BUT, as you said, it's safe to say the USAS is back. SU, CNU, and MU are a combined 31-5 overall.
Title: Re: BB: General South Region Talk 2011
Post by: paulisdeadman on March 05, 2011, 11:01:57 PM
What's up everyone? A streak came to an end today. Kevn Murphy (Wesley College, Dover, DE) had his 41 game hit streak come to an end today. He started his streak March 16 of last year. 5th all time d3, 15th all time NCAA. Great kid, sucked to see it end.
Title: Re: BB: General South Region Talk 2011
Post by: baseballfan58 on March 06, 2011, 07:16:06 PM
Didn't know he was in the South Region!! ;)
Title: Re: BB: General South Region Talk 2011
Post by: paulisdeadman on March 06, 2011, 08:52:01 PM
As strange as it is Wesley is indeed in the South. Their FB team has been south region champs 4 out of the last 6 years.
Title: Re: BB: General South Region Talk 2011
Post by: cnu13 on March 08, 2011, 12:36:25 PM
Quote from: PNeal7 on February 28, 2011, 03:58:00 PM
As much as it pains me to say, I have to agree that Shenandoah is hands down to South Region favorite right now. Until someone proves they can knock them off, in a tournament, then the title is in Winchester until it is taken away. SU plays at a whole different level in a "tournament" setting. That isn't saying they don't play at a high level or intensity during the regular season, because they 100% do. However, playing them in a tournament setting is tough.

As usual, the South Region will be fun to watch.


correction parker, SU is not the hands down favorite fro the South Region.......CNU just shut up Methodist, yes that's right, 0 runs in 2 games. Some may say im bias and that's fine but i've seen this team for 5 years now and and this line up top to bottom is more solid than i have ever seen. Yes we have had some amazing hitters at CNU over the years, but this lineup is outstanding. And yes, i know people are going to say that SU is ranked higher...personally I dont care. The #1 team in the nation has played 1 game, the #4, 11, 15, and 16 haven't even played yet. Its hard to judge teams that are 15-17 games in from a team that hasn't stepped on the field yet. SU is good, but to say they are the favorite is a huuuuuuge stretch. lets see what the SU fans have to say about that one.
Title: Re: BB: General South Region Talk 2011
Post by: Will2Win on March 08, 2011, 01:50:17 PM
Quote from: cnu13 on March 08, 2011, 12:36:25 PM
Quote from: PNeal7 on February 28, 2011, 03:58:00 PM
As much as it pains me to say, I have to agree that Shenandoah is hands down to South Region favorite right now. Until someone proves they can knock them off, in a tournament, then the title is in Winchester until it is taken away. SU plays at a whole different level in a "tournament" setting. That isn't saying they don't play at a high level or intensity during the regular season, because they 100% do. However, playing them in a tournament setting is tough.

As usual, the South Region will be fun to watch.


correction parker, SU is not the hands down favorite fro the South Region.......CNU just shut up Methodist, yes that's right, 0 runs in 2 games. Some may say im bias and that's fine but i've seen this team for 5 years now and and this line up top to bottom is more solid than i have ever seen. Yes we have had some amazing hitters at CNU over the years, but this lineup is outstanding. And yes, i know people are going to say that SU is ranked higher...personally I dont care. The #1 team in the nation has played 1 game, the #4, 11, 15, and 16 haven't even played yet. Its hard to judge teams that are 15-17 games in from a team that hasn't stepped on the field yet. SU is good, but to say they are the favorite is a huuuuuuge stretch. lets see what the SU fans have to say about that one.

No need to respond to a statement like that...we'll see who's who  come April 2-3 (That is if you guys are still in the hunt by then)! Better lace em up tight...pretty sure SU will be ready! But if I were to comment on anything about your entire rant about CNU and SU....i'm pretty sure SU's made back to back appearances in the D3 world series and based on the comparison of this years stats and the previous two years, SU is putting up almost the exact same numbers on the mound (if not better) AND they're offensive numbers have drastically improved (go look for yourself, archived stats are on SU's site). Guess I could make the same statement about this years SU team being better than any in the previous 5 years as well, huh... :o
But, it is only a month into the season...there are plenty of games to play...dont get ahead of yourself here CNU13  ;)

Just a lil glimpse into the reasons behind my post...enjoy

thru first 11 games
Team Averages:

Offensive Stats:
10-11: .399 BA, 43 doubles, 6 triples, 17 HRs, 117 RBIs, Runs/game= 12.63
09-10: .321 BA, 19 doubles, 6 triples, 6 HRs, 85 RBIs, Runs/game= 9.36
08-09: .368 BA, 31 doubles, 7 triples, 10 HRs, 100 RBIs, Runs/game= 11.54

Pitching
10-11: 11-0, 3.26 ERA, .266 BA against, 42 runs against(33 earned)
09-10: 8-3, 4.27 ERA, .........?, 59 runs against(44 earned)
08-09: 10-1, 2.39 ERA, .......?, 38 runs against(22 earned)
Title: Re: BB: General South Region Talk 2011
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 08, 2011, 02:12:43 PM
Quote from: paulisdeadman on March 06, 2011, 08:52:01 PM
As strange as it is Wesley is indeed in the South. Their FB team has been south region champs 4 out of the last 6 years.
Yes, the Capital Athletic Conference is in the South Region. In fact, Delaware is south of the Mason-Dixon Line for you historical buffs.
Title: Re: BB: General South Region Talk 2011
Post by: cnu13 on March 08, 2011, 04:12:17 PM
Quote from: bossman on March 08, 2011, 01:50:17 PM
Quote from: cnu13 on March 08, 2011, 12:36:25 PM
Quote from: PNeal7 on February 28, 2011, 03:58:00 PM
As much as it pains me to say, I have to agree that Shenandoah is hands down to South Region favorite right now. Until someone proves they can knock them off, in a tournament, then the title is in Winchester until it is taken away. SU plays at a whole different level in a "tournament" setting. That isn't saying they don't play at a high level or intensity during the regular season, because they 100% do. However, playing them in a tournament setting is tough.

As usual, the South Region will be fun to watch.


correction parker, SU is not the hands down favorite fro the South Region.......CNU just shut up Methodist, yes that's right, 0 runs in 2 games. Some may say im bias and that's fine but i've seen this team for 5 years now and and this line up top to bottom is more solid than i have ever seen. Yes we have had some amazing hitters at CNU over the years, but this lineup is outstanding. And yes, i know people are going to say that SU is ranked higher...personally I dont care. The #1 team in the nation has played 1 game, the #4, 11, 15, and 16 haven't even played yet. Its hard to judge teams that are 15-17 games in from a team that hasn't stepped on the field yet. SU is good, but to say they are the favorite is a huuuuuuge stretch. lets see what the SU fans have to say about that one.

No need to respond to a statement like that...we'll see who's who  come April 2-3 (That is if you guys are still in the hunt by then)! Better lace em up tight...pretty sure SU will be ready! But if I were to comment on anything about your entire rant about CNU and SU....i'm pretty sure SU's made back to back appearances in the D3 world series and based on the comparison of this years stats and the previous two years, SU is putting up almost the exact same numbers on the mound (if not better) AND they're offensive numbers have drastically improved (go look for yourself, archived stats are on SU's site). Guess I could make the same statement about this years SU team being better than any in the previous 5 years as well, huh... :o
But, it is only a month into the season...there are plenty of games to play...dont get ahead of yourself here CNU13  ;)

Just a lil glimpse into the reasons behind my post...enjoy

thru first 11 games
Team Averages:

Offensive Stats:
10-11: .399 BA, 43 doubles, 6 triples, 17 HRs, 117 RBIs, Runs/game= 12.63
09-10: .321 BA, 19 doubles, 6 triples, 6 HRs, 85 RBIs, Runs/game= 9.36
08-09: .368 BA, 31 doubles, 7 triples, 10 HRs, 100 RBIs, Runs/game= 11.54

Pitching
10-11: 11-0, 3.26 ERA, .266 BA against, 42 runs against(33 earned)
09-10: 8-3, 4.27 ERA, .........?, 59 runs against(44 earned)
08-09: 10-1, 2.39 ERA, .......?, 38 runs against(22 earned)


I know the guys will be ready for that series. SU is a good team. They have to be to make the back to back WS appearances. And alot of thoes guys are tough outs. I have just 2 things to say about this. 1, i was just saying that SU wasnt the "hands down" regional favorite right now. and 2,) (not knocking you guys, just asking) how cuz you guys smashed ncw 15-0 when VS pitched and then won 20-10 when your number 2 threw? does it thin out past him or was it just a bad game for your other pitcher(s)?
Title: Re: BB: General South Region Talk 2011
Post by: PNeal7 on March 08, 2011, 04:39:49 PM
I have to back my CNU boys on this one. As CNU13 pointed out, SU is a good ball club. However, CNU is as hot as I've ever seen them, and play SU down in Newport News this year. I wasn't part of the World Series days with CNU, but I'm guessing they looked similar to what we are seeing now. With the way CNU is playing, I'd pick them to beat anyone, including my Baltimore Orioles; not that that's much of an accomplishment.

My one question, that I'm hoping one of you SU fans can answer, is why when SU is up so big do the back-ups not get more playing time? In a 15-0 win over NCWC, there were 2 pinch hit appearances. Two. Really? You can't tell me some of those kids, who work hard each and every day, wouldn't love the chance to get an AB during an "in-conference" game. In a 22-7 win over Ferrum, again 2 pinch hitters came in. My complaint is that, if you're going to have so many guys on the roster, at least let them get a chance to swing it during blow-outs.

I'll give that to CNU. You can say whatever you want, but the coaching staff lets the non-everyday guys get some AB's. In a 14-4 win over BC this year, there were 5 pinch hitters that got in the game.

As of the bottom of the 4th, CNU is up 13-2 over Albertus Magnus.
Title: Re: BB: General South Region Talk 2011
Post by: Will2Win on March 08, 2011, 04:56:20 PM
Quote from: PNeal7 on March 08, 2011, 04:39:49 PM
I have to back my CNU boys on this one. As CNU13 pointed out, SU is a good ball club. However, CNU is as hot as I've ever seen them, and play SU down in Newport News this year. I wasn't part of the World Series days with CNU, but I'm guessing they looked similar to what we are seeing now. With the way CNU is playing, I'd pick them to beat anyone, including my Baltimore Orioles; not that that's much of an accomplishment.

My one question, that I'm hoping one of you SU fans can answer, is why when SU is up so big do the back-ups not get more playing time? In a 15-0 win over NCWC, there were 2 pinch hit appearances. Two. Really? You can't tell me some of those kids, who work hard each and every day, wouldn't love the chance to get an AB during an "in-conference" game. In a 22-7 win over Ferrum, again 2 pinch hitters came in. My complaint is that, if you're going to have so many guys on the roster, at least let them get a chance to swing it during blow-outs.

I'll give that to CNU. You can say whatever you want, but the coaching staff lets the non-everyday guys get some AB's. In a 14-4 win over BC this year, there were 5 pinch hitters that got in the game.

As of the bottom of the 4th, CNU is up 13-2 over Albertus Magnus.

I never said CNU wasn't going to be a formidable foe...I was simply pointing out that one could say the same about SU's team being the best they've had in the last five years also. Thats all and as for the pinch hitting deal, no idea. Couldnt help ya out there...
Title: Re: BB: General South Region Talk 2011
Post by: Boysofsummer21 on March 08, 2011, 05:01:14 PM
Updated from original post - tracking as games are starting to get more frequent. The season is still young but started the spreadsheet to track per game stats. The tables shows the per game differences between 2011 and 2010. You do have to remember that the season is very young and teams have not played a lot of games but started this so it will be easier to track as the season goes on. At the point of doing this;
Averett 15 games
CNU 11 games
Ferrum 10 games
Greensboro 9 games
Methodist 14 games
NCWC 13 games
Shenandoah 9 games
So still a very small sampling.
A negative number means a decrease in 2011 versus 2010. Positive number means an increase. The only place you probably don't want a positive is Strike outs!

If CNU starts to reduce strikeouts and put the ball in play more watch out. Also Shenandoah had a great season last year so the stats can be a little mis-leading. Like hits per game is down 1 from 2010 to 2011 ( 13.67 vs 12.67) and runs are up ( 10.83 vs 11.56) so SU is getting the job done!


               
2011 VS 2010 per game stats


  Team                     AB         Runs      Hits       2B        3B           HR        RBI         BB        SO       AVG       OB%        SLG


Averett          -6.96     -3.41       -4.57    -1.22    -0.04     -0.05   -2.98      -1.10     0.72    -0.076   -0.074      -0.100
     CNU           0.53      1.88        0.47     1.13     0.25      0.44    2.19       0.12     2.42     0.009    0.014       0.091
Ferrum          -3.11     -1.77       -1.87    -0.60    -0.35     -0.31   -1.88      -0.16     0.54    -0.026   -0.025      -0.079
Greensboro          -1.85     -1.65       -2.59    -0.58    -0.02      0.26   -1.14       1.53     0.26    -0.067   -0.018      -0.055
Methodist          -2.38     -0.50       -1.90    -0.55     0.14     -0.43   -1.05       1.07     0.48    -0.034   -0.008      -0.069
   NCWC          -1.22     -1.75       -1.03     0.15    -0.06     -0.14   -1.30      -0.86     0.51    -0.021   -0.026      -0.029
Shenandoah          -3.44      0.72       -1.00     0.65     0.38      0.27    0.02      -0.55     0.51     0.008    0.012       0.089

Yes SU is putting up big numbers as you can see about this is as of Sunday night. I do update it from time to time and SU is on track to break last years records, which where huge but before you get to carried away so is CNU.

This is what makes the USA South so great, not many people can truely have a good old fashion trash talking session and both be right!
Lets go USA South.
Title: Re: BB: General South Region Talk 2011
Post by: Jim Dixon on March 08, 2011, 05:42:35 PM
The three best teams in the South region are Shenandoah, Christopher Newport and Birmingham Southern.  Good news for most schools is that BSC is not eligible for the playoff but they would be my favorite to win it all.

Millsaps had put together a nice season as have Mary Washington.  There are also a lot of in-region wins down in the GSAC.

I am looking forward to both the MW-Salisbury and Shen-CNU series
Title: Re: BB: General South Region Talk 2011
Post by: paulisdeadman on March 08, 2011, 08:01:24 PM
I think Wesley might give Salisbury some tough games this year. Good line up and a solid staff.