BB: Top Teams in West Region

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Jack Parkman

Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 16, 2018, 09:41:20 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 16, 2018, 12:52:22 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 16, 2018, 12:22:09 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on April 15, 2018, 07:21:07 PM
Trinity lost to 12-23 Schreiner 3-2 in 10 innings today and are now tied with Centenary for the SCAC lead with TLU 2 games back.  The SCAC regular-season title will likely be on the line when the two leaders face off in Shreveport in two weeks. 

Tomorrow's non-conference tilt in Georgetown will mark the 10th game in 11 days for the Tigers with only two of those coming at home.

Trinity should have the edge but you never know what the road will bring.  Either way, both can make a case for a Pool C bid if either fails in the SCAC tournament.

Jim-

Do you feel Centenary has the resume to be considered for a Pool C?
...awaiting Jim's opinion...
They are 19-12 with 7 games remaining, ETBU, Austin College (3), Trinity (3).
They have a split with Redlands and went 1-2 against TLU.

I don't see any other regionally ranked teams on their schedule.

They may not finish above .700.

Right now, who are 6 regionally ranked teams from the West?

TU , TLU, Redlands, CTX, PacLu...

LaVerne?  Cent? UTD?

I am going with Trinity, Redlands, Chapman, Tyler, Concordia, and TLU.

TexasBB

Big series this weekend in Tyler as they host CTX for 3 games. 

Mike Lehman

APRIL 17,2018

ASC
Concordia - Texas 23-11

NWC
Pacific Lutheran 22-14
Linfield 22-14

SCAC
Trinity Texas 28-4

SCIAC
Chapman 26-8
Redlands 28-9
Laverne 23-11

West should get 6 bids in 2018.. 8-)

Ralph Turner

Quote from: Mike Lehman on April 17, 2018, 07:39:13 PM
APRIL 17,2018

ASC
Concordia - Texas 23-11

NWC
Pacific Lutheran 22-14
Linfield 22-14

SCAC
Trinity Texas 28-4

SCIAC
Chapman 26-8
Redlands 28-9
Laverne 23-11

West should get 6 bids in 2018.. 8-)
I am optimistic, but I need to drill down on the non-conference head-to-heads for some of the Pool C's.

UT-Tyler's 3-game sweep of LaVerne looks big.

Jack Parkman

Quote from: Mike Lehman on April 17, 2018, 07:39:13 PM
APRIL 17,2018

ASC
Concordia - Texas 23-11

NWC
Pacific Lutheran 22-14
Linfield 22-14

SCAC
Trinity Texas 28-4

SCIAC
Chapman 26-8
Redlands 28-9
Laverne 23-11

West should get 6 bids in 2018.. 8-)

The NWC is a 1-bid league.
The SCIAC could get 2 in (Redlands & Chapman) but thats really only if they both continue winning and play each other for the tourney championship.  If anyone other than those 2 win the SCIC tourney, it might be cutting it close.
The SCAC has Trinity as a shoe-in, and I think the only way Centenary gets in is by winning the tourney.
The ASC could get 2 in and I think the only 2 real options are Concordia and Tyler.  If anyone other than those 2 wins the tourney title, I think the winner of their 3 game set has the best shot as long as they don't go 0-2 in the tourney.

I think there will only be 5 and they will fly someone in like they did few years ago.  Putting the Regional in Spokane shows that the NCAA will pay for flights and there is really no other choice.

Ralph Turner

#2180
In my dreams, we would get 2 teams from the NWC.

It is heresy to say this, but it would save a trip to award a Pool C to a team that comes from a strong conference in a strong region.

I think that the won-loss records across the entire region are reflective of how competitive the teams are, even into the bottom thirds of the four conferences.  Schreiner and Southwestern beat Trinity. CMS beat Redlands. UMHB beat TLU. McMurry beat CTX. Louisiana College beat UT Tyler twice.  Puget Sound beat Pac Lu. Puget Sound beat Linfield. Lewis and Clark beat Linfield twice.

Mike Lehman

2018 D3baseball.com/NCBWA Top 25, Week 8
Through games of Sunday April 15, 2018

#   School (1st votes)   Rec   Pts   Prev.
1   Trinity (Texas) (16)   28-3   612   1
2   Wooster (4)   20-3   574   3
3   UW-Whitewater (3)   15-3   571   2
4   Randolph-Macon   24-3-1   534   6
5   Mass-Boston   22-5   495   8
6   Cortland (1)   25-6   480   10
7   Rowan   22-5   474   7
8   Concordia-Chicago   17-5   462   4
9   Christopher Newport   27-6   426   5
10   Case Western Reserve   23-4   361   11
11   Shenandoah   24-6   312   18
12   TCNJ   19-5   310   17
13   Roanoke   22-7   306   9
14   Texas Lutheran   26-8   276   13
15   Marietta   18-6   230   14
16   UW-Oshkosh   14-4   226   16
17   Methodist   27-9   199   12
18   Redlands   28-9   176   20
19   Salisbury   23-7   167   24
20   Spalding   22-5   160   15
21   La Roche   18-5-1   106   21
22   Franklin   22-2   82   rv
23   Southern Maine   16-6   76   rv
24   Oswego State   18-8   71   19
25   Adrian   20-5   46   rv
Others receiving votes: Keystone 41, Chapman 31, Western New England 24, Saint John's (Minn.) 24, Piedmont 21, UW-Stevens Point 21, Babson 19, Alvernia 18, Washington & Jefferson 17, Carthage 16, Berry 15, La Verne 13, Johns Hopkins 12, Endicott 12, Baldwin Wallace 11, Arcadia 10, Catholic 10, Frostburg State 9, St. Scholastica 8, Maryville (Tenn.) 8, Heidelberg 7, Bethel (Minn.) 7, North Central (Ill.) 7, Otterbein 6, Augustana (Ill.) 5, Earlham 4, Webster 3, Mitchell 3, UW-La Crosse 3, Concordia Texas 2, Denison 2, New York Univ. 2, Rutgers-Camden 1.

Jim Dixon

Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 17, 2018, 11:15:01 PM
In my dreams, we would get 2 teams from the NWC.

I believe you are right, you are dreaming.

Just like a tournament serves to add alot of regional losses of the best teams, parity in the conference does that as well.  For multiple bids from a conference you need a couple dominate teams with dominate non-conference records. This just is not the case in the NWC this year.

BigPoppa

Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 19, 2018, 10:40:47 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 17, 2018, 11:15:01 PM
In my dreams, we would get 2 teams from the NWC.

I believe you are right, you are dreaming.

Just like a tournament serves to add alot of regional losses of the best teams, parity in the conference does that as well.  For multiple bids from a conference you need a couple dominate teams with dominate non-conference records. This just is not the case in the NWC this year.

Could the WIAC get a third team? Assuming they possibly take both Pool B bids and then go head to head for a Pool C bid with the rest of the country... and the NCAA has flown WIAC teams west before.
Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.

Mike Lehman

Quote from: BigPoppa on April 22, 2018, 12:07:01 PM
Quote from: Jim Dixon on April 19, 2018, 10:40:47 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 17, 2018, 11:15:01 PM
In my dreams, we would get 2 teams from the NWC.

I believe you are right, you are dreaming.

Just like a tournament serves to add alot of regional losses of the best teams, parity in the conference does that as well.  For multiple bids from a conference you need a couple dominate teams with dominate non-conference records. This just is not the case in the NWC this year.

Could the WIAC get a third team? Assuming they possibly take both Pool B bids and then go head to head for a Pool C bid with the rest of the country... and the NCAA has flown WIAC teams west before.
??? ??? ??? ???

Jim Dixon

With Willamette grabbing the NWC bid, we will know on Thursday whether Pac Lu or Linfield are considered contenders for a Pool C bid.  My expectation is to see a NWC team low in the regional rankings when they come out this week.

Ralph Turner

McMurry beat Trinity 3-1 today. TU #1 James Nittoli (W-L 5-2; 9 GS and ERA 2.25) went 4.0 IP, gave up 2 runs in the first in the 1st and got the loss. Trinity went "pitching by committee" for the rest of the game.

Making his 3rd start of the year was McMurry Senior Tyler Jenkins (2-3) went got the complete game win.


Ron Boerger

Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 24, 2018, 10:18:54 PM
McMurry beat Trinity 3-1 today. TU #1 James Nittoli (W-L 5-2; 9 GS and ERA 2.25) went 4.0 IP, gave up 2 runs in the first in the 1st and got the loss. Trinity went "pitching by committee" for the rest of the game.

Making his 3rd start of the year was McMurry Senior Tyler Jenkins (2-3) went got the complete game win.

Seems Trinity has been off their feed the last couple of weeks.   If you can't get more than one run in your final home game of the year off a guy with one win on the season, and who prior to last night had an ERA over 7 and hadn't lasted more than 5 1/3 innings in a start, well, that's not good.  :o

Purple Heys

Quote from: Ron Boerger on April 25, 2018, 09:42:09 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 24, 2018, 10:18:54 PM
McMurry beat Trinity 3-1 today. TU #1 James Nittoli (W-L 5-2; 9 GS and ERA 2.25) went 4.0 IP, gave up 2 runs in the first in the 1st and got the loss. Trinity went "pitching by committee" for the rest of the game.

Making his 3rd start of the year was McMurry Senior Tyler Jenkins (2-3) went got the complete game win.

Seems Trinity has been off their feed the last couple of weeks.   If you can't get more than one run in your final home game of the year off a guy with one win on the season, and who prior to last night had an ERA over 7 and hadn't lasted more than 5 1/3 innings in a start, well, that's not good.  :o

Dude...that's baseball.   8-)

A perfect game, played by imperfect people in imperfect conditions, coached by imperfect people, and officiated by imperfect people.
You can't leave me....all the plants will die.

Ron Boerger

Quote from: Purple Heys on April 25, 2018, 01:56:09 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on April 25, 2018, 09:42:09 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 24, 2018, 10:18:54 PM
McMurry beat Trinity 3-1 today. TU #1 James Nittoli (W-L 5-2; 9 GS and ERA 2.25) went 4.0 IP, gave up 2 runs in the first in the 1st and got the loss. Trinity went "pitching by committee" for the rest of the game.

Making his 3rd start of the year was McMurry Senior Tyler Jenkins (2-3) went got the complete game win.

Seems Trinity has been off their feed the last couple of weeks.   If you can't get more than one run in your final home game of the year off a guy with one win on the season, and who prior to last night had an ERA over 7 and hadn't lasted more than 5 1/3 innings in a start, well, that's not good.  :o

Dude...that's baseball.   8-)

A perfect game, played by imperfect people in imperfect conditions, coached by imperfect people, and officiated by imperfect people.

One example is random chance.
Several examples - losses to sub-.500 teams in the last two weeks - could indicate more than that.