Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)

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K-Mack

I'm sure we have had threads devoted to this in the past, and I'm not sure if there should be rules on this one (like no local features about some guy on some team with no hook that would be interesting to other D3 readers), but I thought I'd start a new thread anyway.

Byron Westbrook (Salisbury), brother of the Eagles' Brian, trying to get an NFL look.

There are also a ton of papers which ran something this week on UW-Stout implementing random drug testing.
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K-Mack

Quote from: JT on February 13, 2007, 03:41:43 PM
Here we go again:

Nerds vs. DIII Athletics

Yeah, I came by to post this one. Just to clarify, it's a D4 story ... wanting D3 to split into two subdivisions, from the New York Times, pretty sure it's the same writer that did the admissions thing with Shenandoah and Utica (for which I was admonished for leaving out of year in review) last summer (and NBC picked it up in the fall).

Title is Division III Seeks Harmony Between Field and Classroom, FWIW.

Haven't read it all yet, but feel free to chime in here if you have.
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JT

Quote from: K-Mack on February 13, 2007, 06:48:35 PM
Quote from: JT on February 13, 2007, 03:41:43 PM
Here we go again:

Nerds vs. DIII Athletics

Yeah, I came by to post this one. Just to clarify, it's a D4 story ... wanting D3 to split into two subdivisions, from the New York Times, pretty sure it's the same writer that did the admissions thing with Shenandoah and Utica (for which I was admonished for leaving out of year in review) last summer (and NBC picked it up in the fall).

Title is Division III Seeks Harmony Between Field and Classroom, FWIW.

Haven't read it all yet, but feel free to chime in here if you have.

Its all crap.  We can't or don't want to compete, so let's change the rules and inconvenience everyone else.

This is equivalent to every little kid getting a trophy no matter where they finished.  Ties.... no winners or losers.  Yuck!

Sakman 1111

Quote from: JT on February 14, 2007, 09:23:00 AM
Quote from: K-Mack on February 13, 2007, 06:48:35 PM
Quote from: JT on February 13, 2007, 03:41:43 PM
Here we go again:

Nerds vs. DIII Athletics
JT I couldn't agree with you more....The Nerds have intramurals please leave D3 Athletics alone......

Yeah, I came by to post this one. Just to clarify, it's a D4 story ... wanting D3 to split into two subdivisions, from the New York Times, pretty sure it's the same writer that did the admissions thing with Shenandoah and Utica (for which I was admonished for leaving out of year in review) last summer (and NBC picked it up in the fall).

Title is Division III Seeks Harmony Between Field and Classroom, FWIW.

Haven't read it all yet, but feel free to chime in here if you have.

Its all crap.  We can't or don't want to compete, so let's change the rules and inconvenience everyone else.

This is equivalent to every little kid getting a trophy no matter where they finished.  Ties.... no winners or losers.  Yuck!

K-Mack

Gordon Mann, aka Urlacher, passed along this gem. Pretty good piece actually (and no, this is not the New York Times promotional thread, just happening that way so far  ;) )

QuoteThere's a college sports dynasty at Lake Forest and I never even knew it.

- Casey Urlacher
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Quote from: Sakman 1111 on February 14, 2007, 11:46:38 AM
Quote from: JT on February 14, 2007, 09:23:00 AM
Quote from: K-Mack on February 13, 2007, 06:48:35 PM
Quote from: JT on February 13, 2007, 03:41:43 PM
Here we go again:

Nerds vs. DIII Athletics
JT I couldn't agree with you more....The Nerds have intramurals please leave D3 Athletics alone......

Yeah, I came by to post this one. Just to clarify, it's a D4 story ... wanting D3 to split into two subdivisions, from the New York Times, pretty sure it's the same writer that did the admissions thing with Shenandoah and Utica (for which I was admonished for leaving out of year in review) last summer (and NBC picked it up in the fall).

Title is Division III Seeks Harmony Between Field and Classroom, FWIW.

Haven't read it all yet, but feel free to chime in here if you have.

Its all crap.  We can't or don't want to compete, so let's change the rules and inconvenience everyone else.

This is equivalent to every little kid getting a trophy no matter where they finished.  Ties.... no winners or losers.  Yuck!

Well,
I don't like any more than you two, but I see it a little differently. I'm not sure creating a Division IV wouldn't bring about as many problems as it creates.

And what exactly is so wrong about the current Division III? It seems to allow flexibility so that conferences can localize their choices about who they play, how much they emphasize athletics, etc.

It really only becomes a problem in postseason competition, but there's not much to suggest that small private colleges aren't just as successful as Division III public state schools. It varies from sport to sport, but even if Division III splits into two, there's going to be diversity within those groupings as well.

I'd be interested to see what the models for realignment are. And I'd hate to see how we have it change, I think teh diversity is a real asset, especially beyond football. The No. 1/No. 2 example in basketball was a really good point.

First thoughts, anyway.
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Quote from: Sakman 1111 on February 14, 2007, 11:46:38 AM
Quote from: JT on February 14, 2007, 09:23:00 AM
Quote from: K-Mack on February 13, 2007, 06:48:35 PM
Quote from: JT on February 13, 2007, 03:41:43 PM
Here we go again:

Nerds vs. DIII Athletics
JT I couldn't agree with you more....The Nerds have intramurals please leave D3 Athletics alone......

Yeah, I came by to post this one. Just to clarify, it's a D4 story ... wanting D3 to split into two subdivisions, from the New York Times, pretty sure it's the same writer that did the admissions thing with Shenandoah and Utica (for which I was admonished for leaving out of year in review) last summer (and NBC picked it up in the fall).

Title is Division III Seeks Harmony Between Field and Classroom, FWIW.

Haven't read it all yet, but feel free to chime in here if you have.

Its all crap.  We can't or don't want to compete, so let's change the rules and inconvenience everyone else.

This is equivalent to every little kid getting a trophy no matter where they finished.  Ties.... no winners or losers.  Yuck!
PUT QUOTE HERE

Hey Sakman,
You got your quote in the wrong place ... looks like you're putting words in my mouth. :)
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JT

Quote from: K-Mack on February 15, 2007, 09:20:09 PM
Quote from: Sakman 1111 on February 14, 2007, 11:46:38 AM
Quote from: JT on February 14, 2007, 09:23:00 AM
Quote from: K-Mack on February 13, 2007, 06:48:35 PM
Quote from: JT on February 13, 2007, 03:41:43 PM
Here we go again:

Nerds vs. DIII Athletics
JT I couldn't agree with you more....The Nerds have intramurals please leave D3 Athletics alone......

Yeah, I came by to post this one. Just to clarify, it's a D4 story ... wanting D3 to split into two subdivisions, from the New York Times, pretty sure it's the same writer that did the admissions thing with Shenandoah and Utica (for which I was admonished for leaving out of year in review) last summer (and NBC picked it up in the fall).

Title is Division III Seeks Harmony Between Field and Classroom, FWIW.

Haven't read it all yet, but feel free to chime in here if you have.

Its all crap.  We can't or don't want to compete, so let's change the rules and inconvenience everyone else.

This is equivalent to every little kid getting a trophy no matter where they finished.  Ties.... no winners or losers.  Yuck!

Well,
I don't like any more than you two, but I see it a little differently. I'm not sure creating a Division IV wouldn't bring about as many problems as it creates.

And what exactly is so wrong about the current Division III? It seems to allow flexibility so that conferences can localize their choices about who they play, how much they emphasize athletics, etc.

It really only becomes a problem in postseason competition, but there's not much to suggest that small private colleges aren't just as successful as Division III public state schools. It varies from sport to sport, but even if Division III splits into two, there's going to be diversity within those groupings as well.

I'd be interested to see what the models for realignment are. And I'd hate to see how we have it change, I think teh diversity is a real asset, especially beyond football. The No. 1/No. 2 example in basketball was a really good point.

First thoughts, anyway.

I think the DIII system works fine.  The full college experience includes sports for many students, even if they don't play sports.  Why else are DIII schools adding football, because it increases enrollment.... particularly male enrollment.

janesvilleflash

I think the idea of some schools going D4 is unappealing because of the name more than anything else. How about leaving d3 and creating a D2A, non\scholarship?
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HScoach

If I remember right, this was discussed a few years back too.  Not sure if this would still be the case under the new breakdowns, but the old proposal would have put Mount Union into the LESSER division.  Now that would make the little guys out east really happy!
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I think it would make the little guys out EVERYWHERE...a little happy ;)

But in all seriousness. I would rather someone else grow some balls and get some more talent and beat them on the field than have to move them to a new division.  Thats just cheating :D
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Pat Coleman

I should have put this here, too:

Michael Allan is trying to end Division III's NFL draft drought and attended a speed camp in preparation for the combine. Follow link to get to the video feature.

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#13
OK it's basketball but I would like to hear more about kids like this:
Dana John

I reread this and did not like how I originally worded it, so I changed it.

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K-Mack

In keeping with this topic (for those of us talking D4, we should probably head over to General, General Division III issues, Future of Division III, where they've been having this discussion a lot longer than we have) ... I found two things.

One, Trinity (Conn.) was mentioned (I think in USAT) as a squash dynasty, recently beating Princeton for another title and its 165th consecutive match or whatever.

Sorry you gotta Google on your own for more, but I thought that was relevant after the Lake Forest Handball Dynasty feature was posted here.

Also:

Randomly, reading up on the history of Uncle Tom's Cabin, on Wikipedia:

QuoteOrigins
Stowe wrote the novel as a response to the 1850 passage of the second Fugitive Slave Act, which punished those who aided runaway blacks and diminished the rights of fugitives as well as freed blacks. Much of the book was composed in Brunswick, Maine, while Calvin Stowe taught at his alma mater, Bowdoin College.[4]

Hey! You're more than just the alma mater of marathoner Joan Benoit Samuelsson!
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