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Titan Q

Congratulations to Nebraska Wesleyan!  My wife and I lived in Lincoln from 2011 to 2014 and NWU became my adopted Division III team -- I watched the Prairie Wolves play many times during that span.  It's been nice to see them crush it during the tournament.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: Titan Q on March 11, 2018, 08:57:27 AM
Congratulations to Nebraska Wesleyan!  My wife and I lived in Lincoln from 2011 to 2014 and NWU became my adopted Division III team -- I watched the Prairie Wolves play many times during that span.  It's been nice to see them crush it during the tournament.

Awesome! This means Bob is coming to Salem! One of his teams is playing... he has to be there! :)
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Dave 'd-mac' McHugh



The Road to Rochester and Salem are nearly complete. Only thing left is to actually hit the road and get the teams, media, fans, and others to their respective championships.

It was a thrilling and, maybe, shocking Sectionals Weekend in Division III. For the women, quite a few exciting games, but four of the top five teams in the country advanced to the Championship Weekend.

Not so much on the men's side. Only one ranked team is headed to Salem. Two weren't even receiving votes in the last Top 25 poll. And two have never been to the final four. Only one host got out of their own gym by cutting down their own nets. It was crazy.

On Sunday night's episode of Hoopsville, Dave and guests try and break down what happened this weekend and what we might be able to expect in Rochester and Salem. Who came up big, who had the bounces go their way, and more. Guests from four of the eight teams will also discuss their roads and initial thoughts on knowing they are two wins away from a national championship.

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Mike Rejniak

​Dear D3 Faithful ;D,
     I have read many of your posts throughout the years and even met some of you in person, but for those who I haven't met, let me introduce myself: my name is Michael Rejniak and I have spent over 14 years coaching Division 3 basketball and love what our division has done and continues to do for  the sport of basketball. One of the greatest things about Division 3 basketball is the brotherhood that we all have with one another (coaches and players alike). My wish is to showcase the talents of D3 on a national stage in The Basketball Tournament (TBT).  You may have heard me speak about this on the Hoopsville Marathon with Dave McHugh of D3hoops.com (at the 6:11 mark). The TBT is a national tournament that is televised in July/August on ESPN after the NBA season is over. My goal is to put forth an all-star D3 team (current players are ineligible) and have them compete in this tournament to take on Former D1 / semi-pro's to prove that D3 deserves the same respect as other NCAA divisions. The team is mostly complete with former student-athletes from all over the country competing. Once the roster is complete we will be sure to release it through d3hoops. Former Babson College National Champion Matthew Droney '17 will also be assisting me on this journey.

How YOU can help our former elite D3 basketball players

While the end prize of this tournament is a monetary prize, being a D3-lifer, the goal is not the money (we all know that's not why we get into coaching), the goal is to bring an end to the stigma of Division 3 basketball, an awareness of how talented our student-athletes are and that we can compete (and win) against the best. We do need to raise funds for an entry fee, travel, meal and housing expenses for the athletes. In order to do this, we are conducting a crowd-funding campaign through GoFundMe to help make this a reality. These athletes need your support! Just think -- if every Division 3 school donated just $10, we will have raised over $4,000!!!! The link to the GoFundMe Page is below and please SPREAD THE WORD and email me with any questions/concerns at WeAreD3TBT@gmail.com. Thank you in advance for your support and Dave and I look forward to this "D3 Dream Team" taking the court this summer.-Mike Rejniak

Support "We Are D3" In The TBT

AndOne

LORAS DECOMMITMENT

Jared Crutcher, a 6'5" PF from West Aurora IL HS, who had previously announced he would be attending Loras next year, has withdrawn that commitment and reopened his recruitment.
Crutcher, who possesses a 7'2" wingspan and blocked 82 shots this season, averaged 13.2 PPG on 56% shooting. He also averaged 8.8 RPG. He was chosen as captain of the Fox Valley All-Area team.
Speculation is that he is looking for D2 or NAIA scholarship money.

(509)Rat

Quote from: AndOne on March 12, 2018, 02:45:00 PMSpeculation is that he is looking for D2 or NAIA scholarship money.

Seems silly not to

AndOne

Quote from: (509)Rat on March 12, 2018, 05:11:27 PM
Quote from: AndOne on March 12, 2018, 02:45:00 PMSpeculation is that he is looking for D2 or NAIA scholarship money.

Seems silly not to

Yes.
And what also might have been silly, if thats what happened, was committing before waiting until the end of the season when his real worth would be able to be known. Without researching all of his games, it wouldn't be surprising if he had some time excellent outings after he committed and drew renewed interest from athletic giving institutions. I can't imagine waiting would have hurt him in any way. I'm sure if Coach Martin wanted him earlier, he'd also want him now. He doesn't seem like a someone who initially show interest in a kid and then pull back from that initial level. And I imagine he, or any other coach for that matter, would like a "no thanks" later than a commitment sooner, but a decommitment later. It would have saved all the time the staff spent on the kid. Another example of the uncertainty associated with D3 recruiting. You often can't really check the box until a kid shows up at practice on Oct 15.

Lastly, kids may sometimes feel pressure, either expressly stated or implied, from outside sources to make a premature decision. A parent wanting a kid to decide earlier rather than later for whatever reason? And, now days, with the advent of such services, you might even see some type of recruiting "specialist" or service push a kid to decide before he may really be ready so they can publicize their service. I'm not suggesting any of these possibilities were involved in this particular situation, but in the wacky world of recruiting, a surprise sometimes lurks around every corner. 😏

Titan Q

Quote from: AndOne on March 12, 2018, 02:45:00 PM
LORAS DECOMMITMENT

Jared Crutcher, a 6'5" PF from West Aurora IL HS, who had previously announced he would be attending Loras next year, has withdrawn that commitment and reopened his recruitment.
Crutcher, who possesses a 7'2" wingspan and blocked 82 shots this season, averaged 13.2 PPG on 56% shooting. He also averaged 8.8 RPG. He was chosen as captain of the Fox Valley All-Area team.
Speculation is that he is looking for D2 or NAIA scholarship money.

I know he was offered by D2 Lewis...and I believe he is going there.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

This is one of those perfect examples why I don't pay attention to DIII recruiting... too many variables could lead to any player deciding not to play at the school or period.

I think it might be interesting for those of you who track them... how many actually end up at the schools first "reported," how many end up playing in games, and how many end up being players of note. It might be interesting data.
Host of Hoopsville. USBWA Executive Board member. Broadcast Director for D3sports.com. Broadcaster for NCAA.com & several colleges. PA Announcer for Gophers & Brigade. Follow me on Twitter: @davemchugh or @d3hoopsville.

Hoosiersfan2323

Quote from: Titan Q on March 12, 2018, 06:51:31 PM
Quote from: AndOne on March 12, 2018, 02:45:00 PM
LORAS DECOMMITMENT

Jared Crutcher, a 6'5" PF from West Aurora IL HS, who had previously announced he would be attending Loras next year, has withdrawn that commitment and reopened his recruitment.
Crutcher, who possesses a 7'2" wingspan and blocked 82 shots this season, averaged 13.2 PPG on 56% shooting. He also averaged 8.8 RPG. He was chosen as captain of the Fox Valley All-Area team.
Speculation is that he is looking for D2 or NAIA scholarship money.

I know he was offered by D2 Lewis...and I believe he is going there.

Based on this article, looks like finances at Loras came back differently than originally anticipated for whatever reason. Also looks like this is a process that won't play out too quickly based on the schools listed: http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/aurora-beacon-news/sports/ct-abn-boys-basketball-west-aurora-st-0313-20180312-story,amp.html?__twitter_impression=true

Hoosiersfan2323

Congratulations to Loras' Josh Ruggles (first team), Nebraska Wesleyan's Ryan Garver (first team), & Simpson's Sam Amsbaugh (2nd team) on their NABC All-Region honors. Given that the NABC only picks two teams per region, heck of an accomplishment for all three.

doolittledog

Loras has grown their enrollment in recent years.  I wonder if their low endowment (around $30million) means there is less aid money to throw towards those additional students?

BVU, Dubuque, and Luther all have endowments over $100million.  Almost all the other IIAC schools have endowments between $70-$100million. 
Coach Finstock - "There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that and everything else is cream cheese."

AndOne

Quote from: Hoosiersfan2323 on March 13, 2018, 11:12:33 AM
Quote from: Titan Q on March 12, 2018, 06:51:31 PM
Quote from: AndOne on March 12, 2018, 02:45:00 PM
LORAS DECOMMITMENT

Jared Crutcher, a 6'5" PF from West Aurora IL HS, who had previously announced he would be attending Loras next year, has withdrawn that commitment and reopened his recruitment.
Crutcher, who possesses a 7'2" wingspan and blocked 82 shots this season, averaged 13.2 PPG on 56% shooting. He also averaged 8.8 RPG. He was chosen as captain of the Fox Valley All-Area team.
Speculation is that he is looking for D2 or NAIA scholarship money.

I know he was offered by D2 Lewis...and I believe he is going there.

Based on this article, looks like finances at Loras came back differently than originally anticipated for whatever reason. Also looks like this is a process that won't play out too quickly based on the schools listed: http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/aurora-beacon-news/sports/ct-abn-boys-basketball-west-aurora-st-0313-20180312-story,amp.html?__twitter_impression=true

It seems that as the years go by, both decommitments before a recruit even enters college and transfers to another school after a year or two, continue on the upswing. However, this is not surprising given the almost epidemic like rash of transfers we now see on a regular basis in the high school ranks. It's gotten to the point of going beyond ridiculous. A perfect example is contained within the article Hoosiersfan2323 cited above. Two of the starters on the HS team that defeated Crutcher's team in the IL State Playoffs transferred from other high schools. This has been going on for several years at the HS level in IL, and now we are starting to see it more and more at the college level.
Don't be surprised if the trend continues at an even higher rate in the future.  :(

AndOne

Quote from: doolittledog on March 13, 2018, 12:48:02 PM
Loras has grown their enrollment in recent years.  I wonder if their low endowment (around $30million) means there is less aid money to throw towards those additional students?

BVU, Dubuque, and Luther all have endowments over $100million.  Almost all the other IIAC schools have endowments between $70-$100million.

If Loras has grown their enrollment ( it's still only about 1450) and endowment in recent years, you would think they would have an increased amount of 💵 available to spend on recruitment and to increase the amounts in the financial aid packages that they offer their recruits.
Is Loras the poor cousin of the IIAC?

doolittledog

Quote from: AndOne on March 14, 2018, 07:00:18 PM
Quote from: doolittledog on March 13, 2018, 12:48:02 PM
Loras has grown their enrollment in recent years.  I wonder if their low endowment (around $30million) means there is less aid money to throw towards those additional students?

BVU, Dubuque, and Luther all have endowments over $100million.  Almost all the other IIAC schools have endowments between $70-$100million.

If Loras has grown their enrollment ( it's still only about 1450) and endowment in recent years, you would think they would have an increased amount of 💵 available to spend on recruitment and to increase the amounts in the financial aid packages that they offer their recruits.
Is Loras the poor cousin of the IIAC?

There was a series of articles in the Dubuque Telegraph-Herald last year about athletics at the 4 area schools.  Clarke, Dubuque, Loras, UW-Platteville.  I want to say Loras increased enrollment from like 1,300 up to about 1,700.  Their endowment has remained low.  My point was, if there are now about 400 more students on campus, Loras might not have as much money to give out to each of those students.

Endowment figures I got from NACUBO.

Luther 161.8 million
Dubuque 147.2 million
BVU 125.5 million
Coe 86.8 million (2 year old data)
Simpson 78.6 million (year old data)
Central 76.5 million
Wartburg 73.9 million (per Wartburg)
NWU 56.4 million
Loras 36.1 million

That might not mean a whole lot.  Another factor to figure is yearly giving levels at each school, debt load at each school, each school might dole out aid with different philosophies. 

 
Coach Finstock - "There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that and everything else is cream cheese."