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Re: MBB: Commonwealth Conference
« Reply #795 on: December 05, 2017, 02:49:22 pm »
Thanks. Seems like there could be several who could compete for that 5th spot at the least. I just still canít see anyone going to Lyco, should they host, beating them. Although possible!

CC - I missed the above mentioned D2 transfer at Stevenson in my "the transfer game is alive and well" post. Duly noted.................................

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Re: MBB: Commonwealth Conference
« Reply #796 on: December 06, 2017, 04:37:55 pm »
Below are my week 4 predictions and rankings. The spread (-#) is provided by Massey Ratings and the top 25 rankings are a composite from several rankings. Good luck to everyone this week!

Week 4 Predictions

12.6.17 Games

Leb Val (-8.5) @ Stevenson: Leb Val wins by 7

Albright (-1.5) @ Widener: Albright wins by 5

Lycoming (-9.5) @ Alvernia: Lycoming wins by 12

Arcadia @ Messiah (-1.5): Arcadia wins by 2

Week 4 Rankings
1. Leb Val (2-0, 6-1)
2. Lycoming (2-0, 7-0)
3. Albright (2-0, 5-1)
4. Widener (1-1, 3-3)
5. Arcadia (0-1, 3-4)
6. Stevenson (0-2, 4-3)
7. Messiah (0-1, 4-3)
8. Hood (1-1, 3-5)
9. Alvernia (0-2, 2-4)

Prediction Record
Last Week: 7-3 (.700)
Season: 37-15 (.712)
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Re: MBB: Commonwealth Conference
« Reply #797 on: December 08, 2017, 05:49:44 pm »
Below are my week 4 predictions and rankings. The spread (-#) is provided by Massey Ratings and the top 25 rankings are a composite from several rankings. Good luck to everyone this week!

Week 4 Predictions

12.8.17 Games

Franklin & Marshall (-3.5) @ Albright: Franklin & Marshall wins by 3

Week 4 Rankings
1. Leb Val (2-1, 6-2)
2. Lycoming (3-0, 8-0)
3. Albright (3-0, 6-1)
4. Widener (1-2, 3-4)
5. Arcadia (0-2, 3-5)
6. Stevenson (1-2, 5-3)
7. Messiah (1-1, 5-3)
8. Hood (1-1, 3-5)
9. Alvernia (0-3, 2-5)

Prediction Record
Last Week: 7-3 (.700)
Season: 37-15 (.712)
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Re: MBB: Commonwealth Conference
« Reply #798 on: December 09, 2017, 09:32:57 am »
Below are my week 4 predictions and rankings. The spread (-#) is provided by Massey Ratings and the top 25 rankings are a composite from several rankings. Good luck to everyone this week!

Week 4 Predictions

12.9.17 Games

Widener @ Lycoming (-10.5): Lycoming wins by 8

Stevenson @ Arcadia (-5.5): Stevenson wins by 3

Hood @ Leb Val (-10.5): Leb Val wins by 7

Alvernia @ Messiah (-2.5): Messiah wins by 5

Week 4 Rankings
1. Leb Val (2-1, 6-2)
2. Lycoming (3-0, 8-0)
3. Albright (3-0, 7-1)
4. Widener (1-2, 3-4)
5. Arcadia (0-2, 3-5)
6. Stevenson (1-2, 5-3)
7. Messiah (1-1, 5-3)
8. Hood (1-1, 3-5)
9. Alvernia (0-3, 2-5)

Prediction Record
Last Week: 7-3 (.700)
Season: 37-15 (.712)
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Re: MBB: Commonwealth Conference
« Reply #799 on: December 12, 2017, 03:21:30 pm »
Quick question for my fellow stat nerds:
LVC has a good records section on their website, listing game, season and career record holders.  Two current players, Sam Light and Andy Orr, are climbing the all-time scoring list.  But Light transferred in after his freshman season at Division II Millersville, and the 334 points he scored as a freshman are being included in his total on the LVC all-time scoring list.  They have an asterisk and a note at the bottom indicating that he scored 334 points at a D-II institution.

Even if you count just his sophomore and junior seasons and 9 games of his senior season, he's scored 1318 points at LVC, which puts him at 20th on the list.  But with those Millersville points thrown in he's at 1652, bumping him up to 7th on the list. (The site hasn't been updated since Nov 16th, so it's still showing 1496.)

I can understand wanting to recognize a player that has a real chance of scoring 2000 points in his college career, but his spot on the LVC All-Time Scoring List should only include points scored for LVC, right?  I realize this isn't that important in the grand scheme of things, but I guess I'm a stickler for accuracy.  Change the asterisk to say "he scored an additional 334 points at Millersville" if you want. 

I emailed the SID but he never wrote back.

Am I crazy or is this very odd?

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Re: MBB: Commonwealth Conference
« Reply #800 on: December 12, 2017, 05:15:15 pm »
Below are my week 5 predictions and rankings. The spread (-#) is provided by Massey Ratings and the top 25 rankings are a composite from several rankings. Good luck to everyone this week!

Week 5 Predictions

12.12.17 Games

Arcadia @ Scranton (-1.5): Arcadia wins by 3

Week 5 Rankings
1. Lycoming (4-0, 9-0)
2. Albright (3-0, 7-1)
3. Leb Val (3-1, 7-2)
4. Messiah (2-1, 6-3)
5. Arcadia (1-2, 4-5)
6. Widener (1-3, 3-5)
7. Stevenson (1-3, 5-4)
8. Hood (1-2, 3-6)
9. Alvernia (0-4, 2-6)

Prediction Record
Last Week: 6-4 (.600)
Season: 43-19 (.694)
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Re: MBB: Commonwealth Conference
« Reply #801 on: December 12, 2017, 05:28:37 pm »
Quick question for my fellow stat nerds:
LVC has a good records section on their website, listing game, season and career record holders.  Two current players, Sam Light and Andy Orr, are climbing the all-time scoring list.  But Light transferred in after his freshman season at Division II Millersville, and the 334 points he scored as a freshman are being included in his total on the LVC all-time scoring list.  They have an asterisk and a note at the bottom indicating that he scored 334 points at a D-II institution.

Even if you count just his sophomore and junior seasons and 9 games of his senior season, he's scored 1318 points at LVC, which puts him at 20th on the list.  But with those Millersville points thrown in he's at 1652, bumping him up to 7th on the list. (The site hasn't been updated since Nov 16th, so it's still showing 1496.)

I can understand wanting to recognize a player that has a real chance of scoring 2000 points in his college career, but his spot on the LVC All-Time Scoring List should only include points scored for LVC, right?  I realize this isn't that important in the grand scheme of things, but I guess I'm a stickler for accuracy.  Change the asterisk to say "he scored an additional 334 points at Millersville" if you want. 

I emailed the SID but he never wrote back.

Am I crazy or is this very odd?

It isn't the way I would keep my record book, but they can certainly keep their record books as they wish.

By the way, not surprising that the all-time scorers list isn't updated in-season. That's typically an offseason job for an SID.
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Re: MBB: Commonwealth Conference
« Reply #802 on: December 13, 2017, 10:40:31 am »
Quick question for my fellow stat nerds:
LVC has a good records section on their website, listing game, season and career record holders.  Two current players, Sam Light and Andy Orr, are climbing the all-time scoring list.  But Light transferred in after his freshman season at Division II Millersville, and the 334 points he scored as a freshman are being included in his total on the LVC all-time scoring list.  They have an asterisk and a note at the bottom indicating that he scored 334 points at a D-II institution.

Even if you count just his sophomore and junior seasons and 9 games of his senior season, he's scored 1318 points at LVC, which puts him at 20th on the list.  But with those Millersville points thrown in he's at 1652, bumping him up to 7th on the list. (The site hasn't been updated since Nov 16th, so it's still showing 1496.)

I can understand wanting to recognize a player that has a real chance of scoring 2000 points in his college career, but his spot on the LVC All-Time Scoring List should only include points scored for LVC, right?  I realize this isn't that important in the grand scheme of things, but I guess I'm a stickler for accuracy.  Change the asterisk to say "he scored an additional 334 points at Millersville" if you want. 

I emailed the SID but he never wrote back.

Am I crazy or is this very odd?

It isn't the way I would keep my record book, but they can certainly keep their record books as they wish.

By the way, not surprising that the all-time scorers list isn't updated in-season. That's typically an offseason job for an SID.

In past years when they've had someone climbing the list they've tended to update it in season, not always after every game though.

I also suggested adding games played and points per game to the all-time scoring list to add further clarity but I realize that's a big off-season project.

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Re: MBB: Commonwealth Conference
« Reply #803 on: December 13, 2017, 03:24:30 pm »

The NCAA will count all his points - maybe the school decided to follow suit?
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Re: MBB: Commonwealth Conference
« Reply #804 on: December 13, 2017, 04:32:06 pm »
Could be.  I guess I look at it like pro sports where players move around to different teams.  LeSean McCoy is the all-time leading rusher in Eagles history, but they only count the yards that he got playing for the Eagles for 6 seasons and obviously don't include any yards he's gotten since joining the Bills.  But when he retires he will obviously be recognized for his entire career on NFL career rushing lists.

It's a unique situation because I don't think anybody on LVC's scoring list has transferred in the way Sam Light did.  So it may be uncharted territory for the SID's office. 

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Re: MBB: Commonwealth Conference
« Reply #805 on: December 13, 2017, 05:53:05 pm »
hammond99: can you explain what was unique about Light's transfer?

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Re: MBB: Commonwealth Conference
« Reply #806 on: December 13, 2017, 07:05:58 pm »
It is unique in that no one else on the scoring list transfered at all so determining whether or not to include points from another school is something that would not come up anywhere else on the list of all-time scorers.

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Re: MBB: Commonwealth Conference
« Reply #807 on: December 13, 2017, 08:04:10 pm »
It is unique in that no one else on the scoring list transfered at all so determining whether or not to include points from another school is something that would not come up anywhere else on the list of all-time scorers.

Yes, this is what I meant. Said much more succinctly than I did.

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Re: MBB: Commonwealth Conference
« Reply #808 on: December 17, 2017, 11:04:16 am »
Below are my week 5 predictions and rankings. The spread (-#) is provided by Massey Ratings and the top 25 rankings are a composite from several rankings. Good luck to everyone this week!

Week 5 Predictions

12.17.17 Games

Marywood @ Lycoming (-18.5): Lycoming wins by 15

Hood (-12.5) vs. Goucher: Hood wins by 10

Week 5 Rankings
1. Lycoming (4-0, 10-0)
2. Albright (3-0, 7-1)
3. Leb Val (3-1, 7-2)
4. Messiah (2-1, 6-3)
5. Arcadia (1-2, 6-5)
6. Widener (1-3, 4-5)
7. Stevenson (1-3, 5-4)
8. Hood (1-2, 3-7)
9. Alvernia (0-4, 2-6)

Prediction Record
Last Week: 6-4 (.600)
Season: 43-19 (.694)
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Re: MBB: Commonwealth Conference
« Reply #809 on: December 18, 2017, 01:40:51 pm »
Below are my week 6 predictions and rankings. The spread (-#) is provided by Massey Ratings and the top 25 rankings are a composite from several rankings. Good luck to everyone this week!

Week 6 Predictions

12.18.17 Games

Widener vs. Moravian (-3.5): Moravian wins by 4

Messiah vs. Pacific (-6.5): Pacific wins by 5

Stevenson (-11.5) @ Mount Aloysius: Stevenson wins by 12

Dickinson (-1.5) @ Leb Val: Leb Val wins by 2

Week 6 Rankings
1. Lycoming (4-0, 11-0)
2. Albright (3-0, 7-1)
3. Leb Val (3-1, 7-2)
4. Messiah (2-1, 6-3)
5. Arcadia (1-2, 6-5)
6. Widener (1-3, 4-5)
7. Stevenson (1-3, 5-4)
8. Hood (1-2, 4-7)
9. Alvernia (0-4, 2-6)

Prediction Record
Last Week: 5-2 (.714)
Season: 48-21 (.696)
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