BB: General West Region Discussion

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Ralph Turner

Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on December 28, 2010, 06:22:56 PM
PRESEASON POLL West Region Teams
Rank    TEAM RECORD POINTS
12. Linfield, OR    37-13    227
14. Chapman, CA    31-11    222
15. Mississippi College    39-11    219
17. Pomona-Pitzer, CA    31-11    214
19. Trinity, TX    32-9    209
20. Texas-Tyler    36-12    206
27. Pacific Lutheran, WA    30-10    188
Other Top Teams:
Cal. Lutheran (27-13), Redlands, CA (29-11)
Source: Collegiate Baseball newspaper

It looks like teams with 30 and less wins have a difficult time making the West Region 6 team playoffs unless they win their conference. Pac-Lu, Cal Lu, Redlands missed the playoffs in 2010 and all did not win their conference.
Please remember that neither the SCIAC nor the NWC has a post-season tourney.

Either one could have hit 30 wins with a post-season tourney run.  PP was only 29-9 in the regular season.

I think that the critical factor for the playoffs and for Top 25's is going better than .750 in the Region.

There is too much balance in the ASC-West for teams to go .750.

CrashDavisD3

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Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 28, 2010, 06:36:15 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on December 28, 2010, 06:22:56 PM
PRESEASON POLL West Region Teams
Rank    TEAM RECORD POINTS
12. Linfield, OR    37-13    227
14. Chapman, CA    31-11    222
15. Mississippi College    39-11    219
17. Pomona-Pitzer, CA    31-11    214
19. Trinity, TX    32-9    209
20. Texas-Tyler    36-12    206
27. Pacific Lutheran, WA    30-10    188
Other Top Teams:
Cal. Lutheran (27-13), Redlands, CA (29-11)
Source: Collegiate Baseball newspaper

It looks like teams with 30 and less wins have a difficult time making the West Region 6 team playoffs unless they win their conference. Pac-Lu, Cal Lu, Redlands missed the playoffs in 2010 and all did not win their conference.
Please remember that neither the SCIAC nor the NWC has a post-season tourney.

Either one could have hit 30 wins with a post-season tourney run.  PP was only 29-9 in the regular season.

I think that the critical factor for the playoffs and for Top 25's is going better than .750 in the Region.

There is too much balance in the ASC-West for teams to go .750.
30 wins is no magic number really. You are right with conference tourneys.

SCIAC, ASC, SCAC, NWC conference winners make up 4 of the 6 teams in the West Regional in recent years. As always that only leaves 2 spots for non conference winners. In the past years 1 of the spots has been taken by Pool B Chapman and the last spot to a West Region Pool C. Even winning 75% of your total games may not get you a bid. So as always IN REGION winning percentage is so important along with the teams SOS, OWP, OOWP. By 2012 it is possible no Pool B teams will be in the West Region if Chapman joins the SCIAC. Teams with 30 wins or more can and have missed the playoffs in recent years...

Texas Lutheran with 32 wins and Pacific Lutheran with 30 wins both stayed home in 2010 playoffs

As we know llinois Wesleyan with a 20-20 record made the playoffs and won the National Championship in 2010
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

Ralph Turner

Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on December 28, 2010, 07:01:22 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 28, 2010, 06:36:15 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on December 28, 2010, 06:22:56 PM
PRESEASON POLL West Region Teams
Rank    TEAM RECORD POINTS
12. Linfield, OR    37-13    227
14. Chapman, CA    31-11    222
15. Mississippi College    39-11    219
17. Pomona-Pitzer, CA    31-11    214
19. Trinity, TX    32-9    209
20. Texas-Tyler    36-12    206
27. Pacific Lutheran, WA    30-10    188
Other Top Teams:
Cal. Lutheran (27-13), Redlands, CA (29-11)
Source: Collegiate Baseball newspaper

It looks like teams with 30 and less wins have a difficult time making the West Region 6 team playoffs unless they win their conference. Pac-Lu, Cal Lu, Redlands missed the playoffs in 2010 and all did not win their conference.
Please remember that neither the SCIAC nor the NWC has a post-season tourney.

Either one could have hit 30 wins with a post-season tourney run.  PP was only 29-9 in the regular season.

I think that the critical factor for the playoffs and for Top 25's is going better than .750 in the Region.

There is too much balance in the ASC-West for teams to go .750.
30 wins is no magic number really. You are right with conference tourneys.

SCIAC, ASC, SCAC, NWC conference winners make up 4 of the 6 teams in the West Regional in recent years. As always that only leaves 2 spots for non conference winners. In the past years 1 of the spots has been taken by Pool B Chapman and the last spot to a West Region Pool C. Even winning 75% of your total games may not get you a bid. So as always IN REGION winning percentage is so important along with the teams SOS, OWP, OOWP. By 2012 it is possible no Pool B teams will be in the West Region if Chapman joins the SCIAC. Teams with 30 wins or more can and have missed the playoffs in recent years...

Texas Lutheran with 32 wins and Pacific Lutheran with 30 wins both stayed home in 2010 playoffs

For new readers to the  boards, just because the bracket in the West Region will have 6 seeds next season (betting dollars to donuts), it does not guarantee that all 6 seeds will come from the West Region.  The Selection Committee will seed the brackets after all of the Pool A, B and C bids have been awarded.

hatbaseball

McMurry website is reporting that the 2011 West Regional baseball tournament will be held at Driggers field in Abilene.  Now it would sure be nice if the host team could have a good season and qualify for the tournament.

http://www.mcmurrysports.com/news/2011/1/7/BSB_0107114103.aspx
Baseball is ninety percent mental and the other half is physical.  (Yogi Berra)

CrashDavisD3

Quote from: hatbaseball on January 07, 2011, 05:04:36 PM
McMurry website is reporting that the 2011 West Regional baseball tournament will be held at Driggers field in Abilene.  Now it would sure be nice if the host team could have a good season and qualify for the tournament.

http://www.mcmurrysports.com/news/2011/1/7/BSB_0107114103.aspx
Some nice pictures of nice facility...
http://athletics.mcm.edu/sports/gallery/Driggers_Field/
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

BBFan62

Crash-
As the father of a pitcher I say bring it on! 400 feet to center - new bats - yessir!

Ralph Turner

Quote from: BBFan62 on January 07, 2011, 08:21:33 PM
Crash-
As the father of a pitcher I say bring it on! 400 feet to center - new bats - yessir!
Good quality Bermuda turf on the infield.

A really nice facility.

CrashDavisD3

Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 07, 2011, 10:25:50 PM
Quote from: BBFan62 on January 07, 2011, 08:21:33 PM
Crash-
As the father of a pitcher I say bring it on! 400 feet to center - new bats - yessir!
Good quality Bermuda turf on the infield.

A really nice facility.
Can be a hitters ball park if wind is blowing. But pitchers will be key in 2011 and with the new bats I dont see anyone hitting out in CF at this field.
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

CrashDavisD3

Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 07, 2011, 10:25:50 PM
Quote from: BBFan62 on January 07, 2011, 08:21:33 PM
Crash-
As the father of a pitcher I say bring it on! 400 feet to center - new bats - yessir!
Good quality Bermuda turf on the infield.

A really nice facility.
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

Ralph Turner

Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on January 08, 2011, 12:58:44 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 07, 2011, 10:25:50 PM
Quote from: BBFan62 on January 07, 2011, 08:21:33 PM
Crash-
As the father of a pitcher I say bring it on! 400 feet to center - new bats - yessir!
Good quality Bermuda turf on the infield.

A really nice facility.
Can be a hitters ball park if wind is blowing. But pitchers will be key in 2011 and with the new bats I dont see anyone hitting out in CF at this field.
With the new bats, and deep power alleys, it becomes a good doubles and triples park.

I think that "foot-speed" just became the new offensive premium in college baseball.

dp643

Just glad the regional will be played on grass in hopefully warmer climate.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: dp643 on January 10, 2011, 09:45:35 AM
Just glad the regional will be played on grass in hopefully warmer climate.
Better be careful there...

Just much warmer do you want Abilene to be in mid-late May?

:D   ;)

CrashDavisD3

#42
D3 Baseball Pre Season Poll West Region Teams
SOURCE: http://www.d3baseball.com/top25/2011/week-0

8 Linfield 37-13 416( Returns 4 position starters 5 pitchers)
11 Chapman 31-11 358 (17 players return 5 position starters 9 pitchers from 2010 roster)
15 Mississippi College 39-11 242(Returns 4 position starters 3 key pitchers)
18 Pomona-Pitzer 31-11 200(Returns 7 position starters 4 key pitchers)
22 Texas-Tyler 36-12 140(Returns 6 position starters 2 key pitchers)

Also receiving votes:
Pacific Lutheran
Texas Lutheran

Chapman has on its 2011 schedule #3 Kean, #8 Linfield and #18 Pomona
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

Ralph Turner

Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on January 20, 2011, 05:05:13 PM
D3 Baseball Pre Season Poll West Region Teams
SOURCE: http://www.d3baseball.com/top25/2011/week-0

8 Linfield 37-13 416( Returns 4 position starters 5 pitchers)
11 Chapman 31-11 358 (17 players return 5 position starters 9 pitchers from 2010 roster)
15 Mississippi College 39-11 242(Returns 4 position starters 3 key pitchers)
18 Pomona-Pitzer 31-11 200(Returns 7 position starters 4 key pitchers)
22 Texas-Tyler 36-12 140(Returns 6 position starters 2 key pitchers)

Also receiving votes:
Pacific Lutheran
Texas Lutheran
Mary Hardin Baylor
Chapman has on its 2011 schedule #3 Kean, #8 Linfield and #18 Pomona

PP 4 MTaF

Great to see the West Regional going to McMurry.  Beautiful facility, chances of good weather definitely much better than up in Oregon (although I'm pretty sure regional was scheduled for McMurry a few years ago but weather changed the site).  Regardless, great facility and sure to host a battle of the top teams in the west.