Ethan Brooks (Williams 96) is on the Jets roster:
http://www.nj.com/sports/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1124345583213730.xml&coll=1
Jermaine Taylor (Bridgewater, 2003) is on the Bucs roster:
http://buccaneers.com/team/playerdetail.aspx?player=Taylor,Jermaine,59
Jerheme Urban (http://www.seahawks.com/PlayersBio.aspx?PlayerID=165) (Trinity [TX] '03) is still on the Seahawks roster.
Only took three years, but they finally have something listed under "college career" [not much] and "personal" [less].
Not having a great preseason so far, unfortunately. This is his third season in the league, so going onto the practice squad is not an option. Lots of competition for the WR slots this year.
Ryan Hoag (Gustavus '03) is trying out with the Vikings right now. He was practice squad last year. This is his last shot because he can't be on the PS this year. He is right on the bubble. He's having an awesome camp (led the Vikings in receptions against KC on Friday), so it will be tough for Tice to cut him.
What is the rule in the NFL on who can be on a practice squad?
Jamal Robertson is still with the Panthers but this year the camp is loaded with RB's. In the first game he had two carries for 17 yards and a kick return for 23. Keeping my fingers crossed for him.
Ryan Hoag had a few shots tonight against the Jets, but backup QB Brad Johnson couldn't hit him with catchable balls.
Quote from: pipermascot on August 18, 2005, 05:54:23 PM
What is the rule in the NFL on who can be on a practice squad?
You can only be on one for two years. Not sure if it is only the first two years you are in the league or not.
Robertson had 5 carries for 37 yards (7.4 yards per carry) against the Giants. He also had a catch for 2 yards. No KO returns though.
Tom Arth saw some garbage time for the Colts on Saturday.
Prognosis isn't good for him, though. The Colts may keep just two QBs.
R-Kal Truluck, Cortland State. A veteran with the KC Chiefs, Truluck is now on the Green Bay Packers roster. Truluck was a terror as a defensive lineman at Cortland, particularly in Cortaca Jug games.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6293
Former McMurry QB's Jordan Newman and Braxton Shaver discuss playing professional football in Europe.
http://www.reporter-news.com/abil/sp_fb_coll_univ/article/0,1874,ABIL_8000_3884187,00.html
Urban saw significant playing time last night for the Seahawks and appeared to be Seneca Wallace's favorite target from what I saw. He made some tough catches over the middle in traffic and had a great catch to keep the drive going. However, he did drop a ball that could have been a TD between the safeties, it would have been a tough catch. The all-informative John Madden said he didn't think he had much of a chance to make the roster with six WR's fighting for one spot. I hope he continues to play hard and gets his chance.
The dropped TD catch might have been tipped by the DB, but you gotta make the catch in that situation. Urban's also not getting time with the first string so far this preseason.
I didn't notice him on any special teams either which may hurt his chances of making the team.
Hmm, you would think with Urban being in the Seahawks system would give him a chance to stick. They seem to like him, based on how much he plays.
I can never get too much of a read on the NFL preseason and what different things done during it mean to different teams. Guess it just comes down to coaches' gut feelings or whatever.
There's this running list on our FAQ board, but we'd like to keep it updated, so keep pointing us in the direction of what you know. I talked briefly with an NFL scout, or scouting service, about keeping us informed of such matters and giving us a read on who has a chance to go pro in the future, as it's not one of our strong suits ... but not much came of it.
Anyway, I'll try to revive that ... and here's the link to the list:
http://www.d3football.com/faq.php?answer&category=General&id=30
Quote from: K-Mack on August 24, 2005, 03:36:18 PM
Hmm, you would think with Urban being in the Seahawks system would give him a chance to stick. They seem to like him, based on how much he plays.
I can never get too much of a read on the NFL preseason and what different things done during it mean to different teams. Guess it just comes down to coaches' gut feelings or whatever.
Keith, all I know is what I read in the various media and fan bulletin boards. The general vibe on Jerheme seems much less positive all around. Holmgren has been more critical this year; of course, that could be because he's trying to see how the kid reacts and is taking him more seriously (e.g. last year he wasn't "worthy of criticism"). Unlike last year, when just about everyone was dropping the ball, this year's WRs are doing a better job of holding the ball. Maybe it's because they got rid of a locker-room cancer (Koren Robinson), maybe people are finally getting a clue after two years of dropped pass after dropped pass.
There's no doubt that each drop from this point on in a playing situation will be another nail in the coffin, barring a huge reversal from people like Parthon and DJ Hackett. Hackett seems to be the golden boy so far this preseason. That can change in a hurry.
It p*sses me off no end that this was two straight Dallas-Seattle games held in the Pacific NW - and should Jerheme make the squad, this year's regular season game is ALSO in Seattle. >:( Well, and making it worse, I was actually IN SEATTLE last year the weekend of the game, but other comittments made it impossible to attend. !!!!!!!
With all the talk of Urban and seeing bfb spell his name, it reminded me that Monday night they did a layout of the current receivers on the Seahwaks roster. They not only had Urban's name spelled as Jerome Urban, they had him listed as 8 years of experience. I thought he only had 3 years of experience. Correct me if I am wrong and there is another Urban on the roster, but from what I could see this is more bad information about the D3 players that do get a shot in the NFL.
Colts put Travis Brown on IR. That means there are just three QBs on the roster: Manning, Sorgi and Arth. However, there is a clamor to get a 'veteran' backup in place. We shall see...
Good luck to Arth! Any "veteran" QB available at this point isn't worth having. Let someone new have a chance to develop!
Quote from: pios on August 25, 2005, 09:24:37 AM
... Correct me if I am wrong and there is another Urban on the roster, but from what I could see this is more bad information about the D3 players that do get a shot in the NFL.
Nope, just the one, and this is his third year. "Jerheme" (pronounced Jeremy) throws a lot of people.
FWIW, the 'hawks current depth chart lists Urban #3 at the second WR slot. They normally carry six WRs. He needs a good game before the cutdown to 65 next Tuesday.
Gustavus WR Ryan Hoag and former Mr. Irrelevent from the NFL Draft will get his best shot as a pro to claim a roster spot tonight as he has gotten the nod at starter to return kicks.
OneArmedScot
Hoag had a fair catch on a punt and two kick returns for 40 yards total.
Two articles give Urban's situation some perspective. The Seattle Post-Intelligencer (http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/football/238155_hawk26.html) has a whole feature (tho' the writer gets the school wrong AGAIN) and the Times (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/2002452721_hawk26.html) devotes a couple of paragraphs. Both quote Holmgren as saying Urban is "one of my favorite guys on the team." That said, the P-I says Urban "is in the battle of his life" per Holmgren.
The P-I author who got Trinity U wrong actually wrote me a very nice apology this afternoon. Nice. :)
Urban was thrown at on the first series of the game, didn't see much more playing time until the last series of the half when he had a nice catch (27 yds) on a timing route with Hasslebeck on a third-and-15. DJ Hackett, who is apparently the main competition for the last spot, has two catches for 25 yards and an offensive pass interference call against. He also sprained his knee late in the half.
3rd quarter: Urban has two consecutive catches (24, 5 yds) to get Seattle into the redzone on the first drive of the second half. First units still mostly in.
4th quarter: Urban out for a couple of series while Jurevicus, Parthon, and Taco Wallace get some PT. Comes in for the last scoring drive of the nite, catches another pass for 10 yds, a 6-yd catch to the 3-yard line is wiped out when the Hawks elect to instead take a holding penalty (and first down) to the five. For the night, 4 catches, 66 yds, 3 first downs, and no drops. ;D
Urban gets interviewed on Seahawks radio after the game, where the play-by-play guys call it "Trinity College." Sigh.
Urb's cookin'.... he's got heart and Holmgren loves heart!
Tom Arth did not play in the Colts/Broncos game but appears to be their curent #3 quarterback.
Jamal Robertson survived the first round of cuts by the Panthers. Six running backs left in camp.
Ethan Brooks was cut by the Jets on Saturday.
Any word on Alex Bell of Hobart? Last I knew he got a shot with the Giants.
I've been so out of the loop, don't even have any idea when final NFL cuts are made..........
He was cut before camp, unfortunately.
Seattle released two WRs today (http://www.seahawks.com/ardisplay.aspx?SecID=45&ID=5778) - Marque Davis and Jason Willis. They still have to make 22 more cuts by Sunday - including ten NFL Europe roster exemptions that go away on that date.
That leaves 9 WRs, of which six will probably make the squad.
Brockport's Josh Warner released by Redskins today.
Seahawks also released T Matt Miller (Louisiana College) today.
Any word about that kid from fisher that was w/ the chiefs?
Also cut today, along with D-III alum and NFL veteran Mike Maslowski. Maslowski is still hurt, though, and the Chiefs are interested in picking him back up when he's 100%.
Colts will announce first cuts today. I saw where Rohan Davey and Danny Kanell were released yesterday. There was a report I saw where the Colts may be interested in Davey, but that was just idle speculation perhaps. If so, Arth may be released.
Based on the latest info on the websites, Urban survived this round of cuts at Seattle and Nate Jackson from Menlo survived this round of cuts at Denver. The Broncos cut Patrick Hape who had more experience than Jackson and could play both tight end and fullback.
Now it is down to the last game and final cuts which become harder because the NFL Europe exemptions go away.
Bridgewater's Jermaine Taylor made the Buccaneers cut today (from 92 players down to 76):
http://www.bridgewaterfootball.com
Arth survived the first round of Colts' cuts - which included two draft picks - but they have to cut 22 people next week thanks to their NFL Europe exemptions.
I do think he'll see time in the last exhibition game, because the starters normally get NO time in that game.
Michael Coleman (Widener) cut by the Rams yesterday.
From the "No news is good news" department, both T.J. Cottrell (Buff State) and Ryan Hoag (GAC) remain on the Vikings' roster.
Urban's chances in Seattle took a hit when the 'Hawks signed yet ANOTHER WR today. (http://www.seahawks.com/ArDisplay.aspx?ID=5791) Peter Warrick, cut by Cincinatti earlier this week, passed a physical and got a one-year deal. You wouldn't think they would sign him only to release him next week. :(
Quote from: gordonmann on August 31, 2005, 11:17:41 AM
Michael Coleman (Widener) cut by the Rams yesterday.
From the "No news is good news" department, both T.J. Cottrell (Buff State) and Ryan Hoag (GAC) remain on the Vikings' roster.
I saw last night on ESPN's the bottom line tha Cottrell had a compound fracture in his leg and is out 6-8 weeks....could really have an effect on his chances to make the team, however his dad is the D-Cordinator so you never know....
Cottrell is still eligible for the practice squad, too. Hoag is not, he's been in the league too long.
does Cottrell even get a look if his dad's not a D-cordinator in the NFL?
Well, that's a great question. But you have to look at it in two ways.
1) Does Cottrell even get a look if he doesn't share the name of a NFL coordinator?
2) Does Cottrell even get a look if he doesn't have an NFL coordinator in his immediate family to give him advice and expert coaching and motivation to make him a better player?
I expect the answer is a combination of the two.
More stories touching on the Urban situation in Seattle:
- Seattle Post-Intelligencer (http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/aplocal_story.asp?category=6420&slug=FBN%20Vikings%20Seahawks) discusses the WRs and has a quote from Jerheme;
- Tacoma Herald (http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/05/09/01/100spo_seahawks001.cfm) says "the [asinine Warrick] signing could signal the end for veteran Jerome Pathon and third-year player Jerheme Urban." Also has a quote from a frustrated Pathon;
- NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/8790812) says "Pathon and Urban could be sent packing".
Interestingly, rather than cut one of the existing WRs to make room for Warrick, Seattle put a DE (Jeb Huckeba) on IR. Why postpone the inevitable, guys?
Arth was 5-7 for 58 yards as the Colts basically don't show up and lose to Cincy 38-0.
Ryan Hoag had a seemingly good game for Minnesota last night:
2 receptions for 49 yards (leading receiver in the game), 1 kickoff return (20 yds) and a punt return (8 yds). A quote from the Seattle P-I: "The game turned on a 46-yard completion to Ryan Hoag on fourth and long that put the Vikings in position for the [game-winning] field goal."
In the same game, Jerheme Urban had 3 receptions for 24 yds, fumbling on the longest (but recovering), was thrown at a couple more times. I did not get to listen to the game, the Seattle Times said he dropped one pass. The combination of the fumble and the drop may be the final nail on the coffin. Looking at the stats, none of the WRs really did much to help their respective causes. New WR Warrick saw PR duty.
WR cuts for Seattle ...
Taco Wallace (waived, bound for practice squad if nobody claims him)
Bobby Shaw (contract terminated)
Jerome Pathon (contract terminated)
... yes, Urban made the final 53-man roster as Seattle kept *seven* WRs on the roster! Congrats Jerheme!!
Unfortunately, the news for Gustavus Adolphus alum Ryan Hoag was not as good; he was released by the Vikings.
Sometimes a coach will keep a worker like Urban on the roster to get more out of more talented less driven players.
Work ethic speaks volumes! Props to Urban!!!!
Way to go Urb!
Arth was cut today - Colts keep only 2 QBs. I do not know if Arth can be on the practice squad.
smed: The Colts will pick up a third QB. I can't imagine that in this day and age they will try to get through a 16 game schedule with only 2 QBs on the roster.
They've done it before - last year or two years ago for a stretch. I do remember they cut Cory Sauter and the Bears picked him up so they were down to two for a while.
Big props for Jerheme Urban... now,,, "just do it!!!" Make us even prouder!
Arth did get named to the practice squad by the Colts. Just like a few years ago, when they stashed Jim Kubiak on the practice squad - the Colts' #3 QB is on that squad while they have two kickers.
Nate Jackson made the roster for the Denver Broncos.
Per their depth chart, they kept 5 Tight Ends! One is a "project" having played basketball, with limited football experience and one is a long snapper.
SmedIndy
Article on Arth's situation. You are right, I just didn't know if you read this piece.
http://colts.scout.com/2/433517.html
Jamal Robertson made the final cut but it appears he will still be fighting for his spot. Rod Smart and Jamal Robertson were both kept while second round pick Eric Shelton was placed on IR. As soon as he is healthy, I expect Jamal or "He Hate Me" to get the axe so Jamal will have to do well on special teams in the first few weeks of the season.
If he was placed on IR, he is done for the year, isn't he? Only way he can come back is if he was on Physically Unable to Perform or possibly if he were on reserve/non-football injury (which is where the Colts stashed Arth for a year).
They interviewed John Fox and he said that Shelton got dinged up in the final pre-season game. They thought it was a knee but he woke up the next morning with pain in his foot and it turns out there is a broken bone. It will take some time to heal so they put him on the Injured Reserve list. The following quote was his response to keeping Jamal:
"On keeping both Rod Smart and Jamal Robertson: There are a lot of things to it. Both those guys are involved on special teams. When you look at a whole season ahead of you, that's important. Both Rod and Jamal do an excellent job in all four phases of the kicking game and both can be a third running back on game day if needed."
I just worry about them keeping two guys that are good at the same thing when they are both special teamers/back-ups. Jamal is not out of the woods yet.
Shelton's done for the year if he's on IR.
The Panthers are not going to take any chances with injuries this year to their RBs.
Seattle did it again - made Jerheme Urban the first cut after the permanent roster was set, for the second year in a row. This time they signed some DE, Rodney Bennett, who was on IR all of last year. From the Seattle Post-Intelligencer (http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/aplocal_story.asp?category=6420&slug=FBN%20Seahawks%20Moves): "Bailey has played in 48 games with one start, and has 39 tackles, 9 1/2 sacks and one fumble recovery." Some damaged goods clown who doesn't even average one tackle per game? GMAFB, Seattle ... >:(
Pathon got a tryout with someone today, hopefully Urb will too. Hey, Dallas, you could use another WR.
Green Bay could.
My beloved Pack need all the help they can get. We'd welcome a D3'er like Urban :)
BFB - For a reserve DT those aren't bad stats. Besides, Seattle needs a lot of help up front as their game against J'ville showed.
Smed, I'm hardly going to be (too) logical where one of my guys is concerned. One start in 48 career games (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/235017). Bennett had one OK year ('02), '03 was a pale shadow of '02, out with injury all of '04. got beat out by a rookie for the backup role in New England in '05. His career page (http://www.patriots.com/team/index.cfm?ac=playerbio&bio=30710) has highlights like "recorded a solo tackle." Wow. How much of a difference is he going to make? Yeah, I know, Urban wasn't going do any better as a 7th WR.
It is just really, really aggrevating that Seattle pulled this on him two years running. Maybe he catches on somewhere else.
It looks like Matt Turk is done with the Dolphins, he was hurt during the preseason and while he hasn't been cut yet his locker has been emptied.
They placed him on IR, so we can still claim him for another season.
BFB - That happens time and again. The Colts did the same thing with QBs Jim Kubiak and Corey Sauter in the recent past - keeping them around, cutting them, signing them.
One thing is that one of the Seattle linemen could be out for the next game and they need a fill in for a game or two for depth. Usually it's the spare wideout that gets cut, because the spare DBs are usually on special teams. And when you need someone for a game or two you usually sign a displaced younger vet.
I think Urban will get another shot, somewhere.
Quote from: Ron Boerger (BfB) on September 13, 2005, 11:51:55 PM
Seattle did it again - made Jerheme Urban the first cut after the permanent roster was set, for the second year in a row. This time they signed some DE, Rodney Bennett, who was on IR all of last year. From the Seattle Post-Intelligencer (http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/aplocal_story.asp?category=6420&slug=FBN%20Seahawks%20Moves): "Bailey has played in 48 games with one start, and has 39 tackles, 9 1/2 sacks and one fumble recovery." Some damaged goods clown who doesn't even average one tackle per game? GMAFB, Seattle ... >:(
Pathon got a tryout with someone today, hopefully Urb will too. Hey, Dallas, you could use another WR.
As a Seahawks fan, I'll tell you they are hurting for depth on the D-line so they needed to do it. Urban was the 6th or 7th receiver and couldn't be added to the practice squad so he was the odd man out. I'd be shocked if he didn't sign on somewhere else.
I think we will be able to claim Turk for a few more years, he is too good a punter to not get picked up for next season either by Miami or another team.
Quote from: smedindy on September 14, 2005, 04:39:02 PM
I think Urban will get another shot, somewhere.
From today's Seattle Times (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/2002495622_hawknotes15.html): "Holmgren said the team would like to re-sign WR Jerheme Urban, who was released to make room for Bailey, later in the season." Uh-huh. Meanwhile, CNN/SI's "Truth and Rumors (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/scorecard/09/15/truth.rumors.nfl/)" quotes a Milwaukee Journal-Sentinal report which mentions Urban as one of several WRs Green Bay "might be considering."
He'll be on the short list if a team gets short handed at wide receiver. He fits nicely with any cap constraints.
Pro Football Weekly's 2005-2006 version of its Pro Prospect's Preview has now been released. A quick perusal of it appears to reveal that its most highly rated DIII prospect for the 2006 draft is Brett Elliott (Linfield QB for those of you who haven't been paying attention). He is ranked by this publication as 16th among QBs. My interpretation is that if this ranking is valid and holds for the 2006 draft and if Elliott has a superlative forthcoming season, then he has an outside chance of being drafted in the 7th round (currently the draft has only 7 rounds) but very most probably no earlier. Pro Prospect Preview has a long history during which it has had a very good general track record of draft forecasting. However, the vast majority of the water has yet to pass over the 2006 draft forecasting dam.
Frank:
Out of curiousity, how many other D3 guys are on their list?
gordon: I was afraid that would be a question. Since I started this exercise, here goes: Bob Dockery, 38th among TEs, Wisconsin-Oshkosh; Casey Allen, 90 WRs, Linfield; Jason Trusnik, 31 DEs, Ohio Northern; Keith Culbert, 42 OLBs, Frostburg State. That is all.
Gratzi. I know you "aim to please." ;)
From today's edition of RockyMountainNews.com (http://rockymountainnews.com/drmn/broncos/article/0,1299,DRMN_17_4094365,00.html): Former Seattle Seahawks receiver Jerheme Urban, who caught six passes for 117 yards last season, is scheduled to work out at the Dove Valley complex today. Urban (6-foot-3, 212 pounds), is one of the biggest unsigned receivers on the market.
Yesterday's Milwaukee Sentinal-Journal speculated (http://www.jsonline.com/packer/news/sep05/357040.asp) that Urban "could be added to the Broncos' 53-man roster" after today's tryout.
From today's Seattle Times (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/2002506609_hawknotes20.html):
Bannister out again
Wide receiver Alex Bannister has a fractured collarbone for the third time in less than a year, and the recovery time is expected to be more than eight weeks.
Holmgren has yet to determine what the Seahawks will do to fill Bannister's place on the roster, but he will be sorely missed on special teams. The team would like to re-sign recently waived wide receiver Jerheme Urban, who played on coverage teams during the exhibition season. Also, receiver D.J. Hackett is expected back from a knee injury this week and could be activated.
News today that Seattle re-signed Urban. Good luck to Jerheme and we all hope he sticks this time!
Seahawks.com story on the return of Urban (http://www.seahawks.com/ArDisplay.aspx?ID=5962&SecID=317).
Once again, the observations are that the Holmgren "always liked" Urban, that he's a "good player," "smart," has a "great work ethic" and is "a great fit" who can "contribute" and "come right in and play." So why does he keep getting cut? ::)
QuoteOnce again, the observations are that the Holmgren "always liked" Urban, that he's a "good player," "smart," has a "great work ethic" and is "a great fit" who can "contribute" and "come right in and play." So why does he keep getting cut?
Sometimes, the cynical side of me looks at "Coach-Speak" and offers wise cracks such as these.
Because he is not a "great" player.
"Smart" means that he doesn't the physical attributes that I prefer at that position such as quickness, speed, vertical leap and awesome hands that can 'palm' a watermelon."
"It is only the "great work ethic" that makes him tolerable around the locker room. If he had an "attitude", then he wouldn't be here."
"A great fit", because he is leaving room in the budget for a blockbuster free agent.
"Contribute" means it is a bland thing to say because we cannot afford to have our 6th WR just taking up space on the roster.
"Come right in and play" means he doesn't have to find someone who doesn't know the playbook.
I finally understood "the game" after watching the movie "Bull Durham". Don't get me wrong about Jerheme! I am very happy that he is playing again. :)
I just read the "Coach-Speak". ;)
maybe urban can start looking at becoming a TE like ex-yale wr, and starting sf te eric johnson
He doesn't really have a TE build, to be honest. He has done a lot of weight work the last few years but really has not bulked up.
There should be plenty of opportunities for him against the Rams this weekend. Seattle only has four healthy WRs on the roster now and normally utilizes a 2 WR/1 SE set. Of the three "regular" WRs:
- Joe Jurevicius has seven receptions, 2 for TD. He will probably be the primary target.
- Peter Warrick has one reception, but is the primary punt returner. Seattle generally uses a WR for their punt returns and doesn't throw much to them for whatever reason.
- DJ Hackett hasn't caught a pass, I'm not even sure he's gotten into a game this year.
The Rams' pass defense is suspect, too. Seattle will probably focus on the run and use it to set up the pass rather than the other way around.
The media articles on Urban state that he was loading the truck to head back to Victoria (TX) on Wednesday when he got the call to come and re-sign. He's been hanging out with ex-Seattle QB Brock Huard, working out with Huard and even a little with Hasslebeck while waiting for someone to call him up. Hopefully that will help the timing on Sunday.
... and Ralph, of course you are right about the "coach-speak." :-\
I saw that Urban had one catch for 11 yards against the Rams Sunday.
Jamal Robertson got his first statistics of the year returning 3 kicks for 95 total yards (31.7 per return). His long return was 42 yards. I hope that he gets another shot based on those numbers. He has always had decent return numbers, averaging 24 yards per retrun for his career. HE HATE ME was inactive for Sunday's game giving Jamal his shot and hopefully he gets another after his performance.
Quote from: reality check on October 10, 2005, 09:36:56 AM
Jamal Robertson got his first statistics of the year returning 3 kicks for 95 total yards (31.7 per return). His long return was 42 yards. I hope that he gets another shot based on those numbers. He has always had decent return numbers, averaging 24 yards per retrun for his career. HE HATE ME was inactive for Sunday's game giving Jamal his shot and hopefully he gets another after his performance.
Averaging 30+ per return should get Jamal some serious consideration. It's not like he had one 70 yard return and two 10 yarders, either. Good for him!
Not quite as good a game this week for Jamal. He had 4 carries for 7 yards and 5 KR's for 72 yards. At least he got some reps...
Jerheme Urban had two catches for 37 yards in the first half for Seattle against the Texans, also drew a defensive pass int call on another play.
Hey,
answering some feedback, and just reminding myself that a lot of the questions I get are already answered, so I'm finally driving people to the FAQ and these boards. So you consistent posters are actually a resource that I appreciate!
Quote----- Original Message -----
From: xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx
To: keith@d3football.com
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 10:33 PM
Subject: NFL
Hello Keith, I am the mother o a d3 football player, Do you think a d3 player has a shot at the NFL? Is there any d3 player in the NFL?
QuoteThere are a handful of D3 players currently playing in the NFL, usually between 10-15. About a dozen or so get tryouts each year, usually not drafted, but signed as free agents for a couple thousand dollars, and they're given a chance to make the team.
There's a more detailed answer on our FAQ page at: http://www.d3football.com/faq.php?answer&category=General&id=30
There's also a running discussion about this on our message board, Post Patterns, although I can't seem to get the link for you at the moment. Wait, here goes... this should work: http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=3584.0
Hope that helps.
Ron, just read this below ... guess that explains why the Seahawks have been AT the Redskins three of the past four years.
Quote from: Ron Boerger (BfB) on August 24, 2005, 07:21:49 PM
It p*sses me off no end that this was two straight Dallas-Seattle games held in the Pacific NW - and should Jerheme make the squad, this year's regular season game is ALSO in Seattle. >:( Well, and making it worse, I was actually IN SEATTLE last year the weekend of the game, but other comittments made it impossible to attend. !!!!!!!
Quote from: K-Mack on October 19, 2005, 03:19:48 AM
Ron, just read this below ... guess that explains why the Seahawks have been AT the Redskins three of the past four years.
Also, they played the Texans last week ... in Seattle. :(
Jerheme Urban had three catches in the second half today against Dallas for 57 yards. He almost made a spectacular leaping grab in the first half but the ball was poked out by last week's NFC defensive PoTW (Anthony Henry). He also was flagged for an illegal motion penalty early. That seemed to get him in the doghouse as nothing else was thrown his way for the rest of the half.
Urban's last catch moved the Hawks from the Dallas 19 to the 41 and kicked off the drive which tied the game at 10 with :40 left. His 57 yards were second high for the day (TE Jerramy Stevens had 60 yds on 5 catches).
Here's Urban making the the reception on the last series (click on the image to see a larger version). Looks like he still has some hops. :D
(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fheraldnet.com%2Fstories%2F05%2F10%2F24%2Fhawks1023urban_500.jpg&hash=6279cad338ab3e9d2869109907ecd5ae47b70d88) (http://heraldnet.com/stories/05/10/24/hawks1023urban.cfm)
Bobby Engram came back from injury today, pushing Jerheme Urban further down on the depth chart. Even so, his one reception for 46 yards made him the top receiver (in terms of yardage) for the 'hawks today. Each of Urb's 7 catches on the season has gone for a first down. Photo (click for larger version):
(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fseattletimes.nwsource.com%2FABPub%2F2005%2F11%2F06%2F2002608407.jpg&hash=93d8d958bacc0c9741b1dc4dbf316e8659ad0b2a) (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2005/11/06/2002608407.jpg)
Engram's three catches totaled a whopping 24 yards. DJ Hackett, higher on the chart, got zip.
Jerheme Urban was released again by the Seahawks on Tuesday, the 8th. per the Seattle Times:...
The Seahawks waived Urban on Tuesday, citing an injury clause in Urban's contract that called for his release if he aggravated a stress fracture in his left foot. Unfortunately for Urban, who had been playing well, that happened at Arizona, and the team had no choice but to let him go and stick to the contract
Urban, who turns 25 later this month, appeared in four games for Seattle after being re-signed on Oct. 4. He had seven catches for 151 yards. Last season, he played in six games with one start and caught his first pro touchdown, but the Seahawks released him on Sept. 13 of this year to add depth on the defensive line
Here's the lame logic used to release Urban...
http://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/seahawks/story/5318684p-4819766c.html
How is that logic lame? His release was in the contract that Urban himself signed. It's not like he got blindsided here.
Ok, try this on,,, you're working as a cop.... you get shot on the job... when you recover the police department says that you'll have to sign a waiver that if you get shot in the same place again, you're fired.... and you get shot again.... I'd think that Workman's Comp rules would prevent an employer from asking for, or enforcing such crap!
Fact is, players sign these contracts knowing the risks. He was unlucky enough to get hurt again. This probably happens more than one would know - it's just that Urban made enough of a splash that it got noticed as a head-scratching move without the explanation.
If a backup guard signs with one of these clauses, then gets hurt in practice and is released, no one would bat an eye.
As a Seahawks fan, I can tell you that the Hawks are very high on Urban and will probably re-sign him once he gets healthy. There's no bigger fan of Urban than Coach Mike Holmgren, I can assure you. It's a shame he had to get hurt - with Darrell Jackson out at least 2 more weeks, Urban was getting opportunities as the third or fourth wideout and playing very well.
And, yes, it does kill this DePauw fan to root for a Trinity Tiger - but if he's part of a Super Bowl run for my beloved Seahawks, it's all good.
I don't know about workers' comp law in Washington, but I practice it in Texas and here there are provisions that differentiate coverage from professional athletes and regular workers. So, in your hypothetical with the cop, that would be a void contract. But with professional athletes there are provisions of the Texas Workers Comp Act that allow teams to choose between comp coverage and whatever the collective bargaining agreement would allow. I'm assuming that Washington law has some similar provision.
Here's my take on the deal with Urban. Yes, he signed something that said he would agree to be cut without pay if he got hurt on the job. The employer still has the option to ignore that if it so desires. But they wanted to save a whopping $150K or so bye-bye Urb, don't let the door hit you in the butt on your way out for the third time, if we are desperate we'll call you again until we don't need you.
Meanwhile, another Seahawk got injured in an altercation at a bar and is also out for the season. According to HIS contract, the 'Hawks don't have to pay him one red cent, either, but they do because "it's the right thing to do."
So ... the moral of the story is to make sure you go get drunk first before getting injured.
Ron,
Welcome to professional sports in 2005! Kinda sucks, doesn't it?
I don't think it's right to make light of Hamlin's serious injuries. That's pretty bush league - he could have died.
Urban's contract was specifically written because of this injury, and it occured in the field of play, while Hamlin was injured outside of the game.
Because of the contracts, the Seahawks felt they had no choice to do what they did to Urban. With non-football injuries, some teams do decide to pay and some don't.
Quote from: Ron Boerger (BfB) on November 10, 2005, 10:20:04 PM
Meanwhile, another Seahawk got injured in an altercation at a bar and is also out for the season. According to HIS contract, the 'Hawks don't have to pay him one red cent, either, but they do because "it's the right thing to do."
So ... the moral of the story is to make sure you go get drunk first before getting injured.
That's really weak, BFB. At least know the facts of the story first before you make an accusation like this. According to all published reports, Ken Hamlin (the player in question) was not intoxicated when the altercation occured, and his injury occured when he was attacked from behind - a bystander hit him in the back of the head with something and fractured his skull.
Comparing a freak occurance like that to an on-field injury is asinine.
According to Mike Sando of the Tacoma News-Tribune, Urban's release has been rescinded and he will be placed on IR.
Yes, It was confirmed tonight that Jerheme's teammates and coaches went to bat for him and he was reinstated and added to the IR.... surgery scheduled for next week in Houston. Let's hope he makes a full recovery!
It's refreshing to know that sometimes 'business decisions' can be over-ridden by 'good-sense decisions'. I believe that I owe an apology to the 'Hawks... they seem to have done the right thing!
No news as of late on Jamal Robertson with the Panthers although I read a newspaper article about local products in the NFL from the Dayton Daily News and Jamal is reportedly making $455,000 this year with the Panthers. I couldn't be happier for him but he's getting to that point where he's no longer a cheap special teamer/third string back...
Alfred University graduate Bill Schuster is a referee in the NFL. He follows a similar path as long-time NFL referee Norm Schacter.
If NFL referees are fair game for this board, Bernie Kukar is an SJU grad who was quite a football player way back when (about a decade into Gag's time at SJU).
Washington & Jefferson College alum Chuck Heberling was a long-time referee in the NFL.
In fact, before the first instant replay rules were passes, Chuck once used the Jumbotron at Three Rivers Stadium to waive off an illegal block penalty against the Steelers, seeing that it was the kicking team who committed the foul, as Chuck Noll was trying to explain to him.
I wonder if Noll intentionally turned Heberling around so he could see the picture, or if it just happened that way.
Jerheme Urban underwent successful surgery in H-town on Nov. 18th and enjoyed the Thanksgiving holidays in Victoria, TX. He is scheduled to return to SEA on Dec. 15th to begin rehabbing his surgically re-repaired foot. We all wish him well in his recovery and rehab. Make us proud(er)!
Here's a story on Bernie Kukar from an earlier edition of the Daily Dose.
http://www.d3football.com/dailydose/?p=63
It was nice to see Jerheme Urban on the sidelines in the SuperBowl... guess he'll just have to get healthy and win that ring next year!
Clint Kriewaldt (UW-Stevens Point) won't have to wait until next year to get his ring. He made the tackle on the opening kickoff for the Steelers, and played on every special teams play in the game.
Update on Jerheme Urban from proplayers.com
http://www.nflplayers.com/players/player.aspx?ID=34817§ion=journal
Jamal Robertson Update
The NFL Owners and NFLPA may not be seeing eye to eye but thanks to the uncertainty, Carolina let go of Stephen Davis and Rod Smart (the biggest competition for Jamal). That leaves Nick Goings along with IR players Eric Shelton and DeShaun Foster on the roster. A less crowded backfield is the best thing for Jamal right now.
reality check,
Not to change the subject but I just had to comment on your D-III Theorum. "If Whitewater is > Linfield (defending champ) and Mount Union is > Whitewater, then Ohio Northern is greater than Whitewater and Linfield because Ohio Northern was > Mount Union."
How 'bout this one:
If NC Wesleyan is > Maryville and Maryville is > than Huntingdon and Huntingdon is > Sewanee and Sewanee is > than Centre and Centre is > than Bluffton and Bluffton is > than Hanover and Hanover is > than Mt. St. Joseph and Mt. St. Joseph is > than Wilmington and Wilmington is > than Muskingum and Muskingum is > Baldwin Wallace and Baldwin Wallace is > than John Carroll and John Carroll is > than Ohio Northern and Ohio Northern is > than Mt. Union...
Shouldn't NC Wesleyan have the right to lay claim to #1?
Man, you gotta love these "connections."
I posted an updated list of Division III players in the NFL, NFL-E, AFL, AF2 and CFL on this board (http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=4566.0).
Quote from: AnotherJohnnie on November 12, 2005, 12:22:16 AM
If NFL referees are fair game for this board, Bernie Kukar is an SJU grad who was quite a football player way back when (about a decade into Gag's time at SJU).
Here's a brief bio of Alfred University grad Norman Schacter, the "Saxon in the First Super Bowl" who also refereed the first "Monday Night Football" game. (Former Dallas Cowboy QB and ABC's MNF sports commentator "Dandy" Don Meredith was awarded an honorary doctorate at Alfred University in, I believe, 1971).
Norman Schachter Former superintendent of the Los Angeles Unified School District.
Held a doctorate from Alfred University. Was a high school coach, English teacher, referee of local games, high school principal, and area superintendent for Los Angeles Unified School District from 1971 to 1978.
His NFL career began in 1954 when then-Commissioner Bert Bell hired him at $100 a game with a guarantee of seven games. The "weekend job" went on to last 22 years.
Officiated in 1967 at the first Super Bowl in the Los Angeles Coliseum. He worked three Super Bowls and 11 conference championship games and was the referee in the first Monday night game in 1970.
Now let's vote legendary Purdue fullback and Alfred Coach Alex Yunevich into the College Football Hall of Fame!
Jerheme Urban has been on the Cowboys practice squad since October.
I saw where Ryan Hoag (Gustavus Adolphus) has signed to the Redskins practice squad today.
Quote from: historymajor on November 24, 2006, 08:42:01 PM
I saw where Ryan Hoag (Gustavus Adolphus) has signed to the Redskins practice squad today.
I meant to mention it when I saw it. Still floating around, I like that.
Although wasn't Hoag an Ole not a Gustie?
Is this also the cool D3 alumni thread, or just pro players? (saw the Kukar mention)
I am starting to compile an interesting mental list, with rarities like marathoner Joan Benoit Samuelsson (Bowdoin) and such.
Not an Ole. Sacreliege! Much like my spelling of that word. :)
Sorry to see that Hoag only lasted one week with the 'Skins.... released on the 28th
Former BV kicker (current BV special teams coach), Carlos Martinez, had a tryout with Atlanta or Dallas recently, but didn't make it...
Check that! Carlos Martinez is now signed to the Dallas Cowboys practice squad!
Dustin Johnson, '05 QB for Salisbury University, just signed with the Amarillo Dusters of the Arena League 2. Congrats to the "maestro of the option". He will play wideout and maybe some QB according to the article on SU's website.
Michael Allan is trying to end Division III's NFL draft drought and attended a speed camp in preparation for the combine. Follow link to get to the video feature.
http://www.d3football.com
he certainly seems to have the physical skills to play the game at the next level.
I would love to seem him get picked up late by the BEARS who need a couple more TE's he could be a good player to develope over next year.
Not that I have any information about who is interested in him I'm just a big BEARS fan and a D-III fan so it would be a combination of epic proportions...
Some former D3 players were assigned or allocated in today's NFL Europe draft, according to nfleurope.com. I hope I didn't miss anyone.
Berlin Thunder:
WR Ryan Hoag, Gustavus Adolphus (assigned, Redskins)
DT Bryant Shaw, Mississippi College (assigned, Redskins)
Rhein Fire:
QB Brett Elliott, Linfield College (assigned, Chargers)
WR Daunta Peterson, Dubuque (allocated 2nd round-10th overall, Bills)
Frankfurt Galaxy:
TE T.J. Cottrell, Buffalo State (allocated 5th round-25th overall, Chargers)
Cologne Centurions:
G Dan Oliphant, Colby (allocated 6th round-33rd overall, Ravens)
Amsterdam Admirals:
WR Phil Silva, Rowan (allocated 6th round-35th overall, Jets)
Hamburg Sea Devils:
(None)
I was told that Michael Allan ran the second fastest 40 among the tight ends. Does anyone know if that's true?
Quote from: Just Bill on February 25, 2007, 02:34:18 PM
I was told that Michael Allan ran the second fastest 40 among the tight ends. Does anyone know if that's true?
Check the NWC board.
Quote from: Just Bill on February 25, 2007, 02:34:18 PM
I was told that Michael Allan ran the second fastest 40 among the tight ends. Does anyone know if that's true?
According to one of the talking heads at ESPN he ran the second fastest among the group of tight ends who ran yesterday (Saturday). The other half were running today. Nonetheless, according to the talking head, this would get the kid a "second day" draft selection.
Quote from: Gray Fox on February 25, 2007, 02:57:45 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on February 25, 2007, 02:34:18 PM
I was told that Michael Allan ran the second fastest 40 among the tight ends. Does anyone know if that's true?
Check the NWC board.
Yeah, he's the main topic of conversation there.
For the lazy people among you, this from AP or some similar news service:
QuoteTIME TRIALS: The first three groups of players were clocked in the 40-yard dash Saturday, and not surprisingly a former Miami player was among the fastest.
Tight end Greg Olsen finished in 4.71 seconds, which was matched by tight end Michael Allan of Division III Whitworth College. Gijon Robinson, who played at Division II Missouri Western State, also ran 4.71.
The other two groups were offensive linemen and the top-rated tackle, Joe Thomas who played at Wisconsin, had the third fastest time at 4.92.
Allen Barbre of Missouri Southern State, another Division II school, had the best time of 4.84. Gabe Hall of Texas Tech was second at 4.91 and the only other lineman to crack 5.0 was Southern Cal center Ryan Kalil at 4.96.
For the lazy people among you ;), here are several former D3 players who are/were on 2007 Arena Football League and af2 rosters, according to team Web sites. There are a lot more than I expected.
AFL
Arizona Rattlers:
OL/DL Ricky Gaspar, Linfield (recallable waivers Feb. 23)
Austin Wranglers:
WR Sakeen Wright, Rowan (waived Feb. 24)
Chicago Rush:
QB Matt D'Orazio, Otterbein (Feb. 24 resigning was the front-page Web story)
DB Jeremy Unertl, La Crosse
OL/DL Joe Peters, Concordia (Minn.)
CB Trey Bell, Whitewater (waived Feb. 23)
QB Brett Dietz, Hanover (waived Feb. 23)
FB/LB Bob McMillen, Benedictine
Columbus Destroyers:
FB Brad Greetis, Cal Lutheran
LB Jermaine Petty, Chapman (signed but not listed on roster)
Dallas Desperados:
K Carlos Martinez, Buena Vista
New Orleans VooDoo:
OL Matt Miller, Louisiana College
Orlando Predators:
DB Micheaux Robinson, Otterbein
Philadelphia Soul:
WR Steve Gonzalez, Menlo
Utah Blaze:
FB/LB Frank Carter, MacMurray
af2
Green Bay Blizzard:
TE Bob Docherty, Oshkosh
WR Bob Burnoski, La Crosse
WR/DB Danny Donaldson, Greenville
DB Anthony Fanelli, John Carroll
K Bob Forstrom, St. Norbert
WR Clark Lichty, Loras
OL/DL Andrew Rekuski, Eau Claire
FB/LB Frank Roe, Denison
Birmingham Steeldogs:
DL Tyrell Elston, Sewanee
QB Mitch Tanney, Monmouth
Albany Conquest:
FB/LB Michael Lewis, Adrian
OL/DL Rickey Jones, Kean
QB Daniel Cole, RPI
QB Joe Micco, Menlo
WR/DB Andreas Craig, Norwich
WR/DB Jamar Rawles, Norwich
Boise Burn:
WR/LB Casey Allen, Linfield
WR/DB Brandon Hazenberg, Linfield
WR/DB Tyler Peterson, Carroll
Bossier-Shreveport Battlewings:
OL/DL Benjamin Reed, Mary Hardin-Baylor
Central Valley Coyotes:
QB Clay Groefsema, Redlands
Cincinnati Jungle Kats:
OL/DL Jamar Neely, Central
OL/DL Luke Scarborough, Thomas More
Florida Firecats:
WR/LB Chris McKinney, Guilford
Fort Wayne Fusion:
WR/LB Melvin Parris, Buffalo St.
Laredo Lobos:
DB Mike Kimmel, Springfield
DB LaRon Ragsdale, Stevens Point
Lubbock Renegades:
WR/DB Patrick Williams, Mary Hardin-Baylor
Louisville Fire:
OL/DL Dwayne Lockridge, Anderson
QB Joel Steele, Anderson
WR Jasonus Tillery, Kean
Manchester Wolves:
WR/DB Andy Wellendorf, Mt. St. Joseph
Oklahoma City Yard Dawgz:
WR/DB Alex Jones, Whittier
Quad City Steamwheelers:
WR/DB Thomas Anthony, Augustana
WR Jesse Schmidt, Buena Vista
Rio Grande Valley Dorados:
OL/DL Einstein Dauphin, Maryville
Spokane Shock:
FB/LB Wyatt Gayer, Anderson
FB/LB Geoff Kirkendall, Wheaton
WR Tyke Spencer, North Central
Tennessee Valley Vipers:
WR/LB Lewis Howes, Principia
Tri-Cities Fever:
OS George Carter, Linfield
WR/DB Thomas Ford, Linfield
OL/DL Sean Kennedy, Coe
Tulsa Talons:
WR/DB Jeff Hughley, Averett
Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Pioneers:
DB Brendon Belt, Salisbury
WR Jim Jones, Widener
DL Dennis Kodack, Susquehanna
WR/DB Tim Parker, Kean
WR Tyreak Saviour, Widener
michael allan mentioned in today's la times (scroll to Small school, big dreams section of the article - after the Kalil and Quinn mentions):
http://www.latimes.com/sports/football/nfl/la-sp-combine27feb27,1,6711439,full.story?coll=la-headlines-sports-nfl
TGP,
Morris Day! Nice.
OshDude, props for both lists.
Wesley's Chris Warrick is going to Germany to play this summer. Unfortunately I cannot find the article again in the Del news, So I don't have all the particulars
If you care, check the 6 NFL Europe rosters on the internet.
Warrick might not be playing in NFL Europa. There are other leagues with teams in Germany, including one where Wesley safety (and Gagliardi winner) Rocky Myers played.
Former Monmouth QB Mitch Tanney is now the starting QB for the Alabama Steeldogs of the af2 league. Tanney replaced the starter due to an eye injury late in the first half of their game on Saturday, led them to the win, and is now #1 on the depth chart after their former starting QB was traded on Monday.
Congrats to Rowan's Sakeen Wright (Austin Wranglers) AFL's Ironman of the Week (http://www.austinwranglers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=3600&ATCLID=876446):
3 catches and 1 TD, 7 tackles and one forced fumble. He also had a pick for a TD called back due to a penalty on a teammate.
2007 NFL draft
7 21 (231) Kansas City Michael Allan 6-6 255 TE Whitworth
7 39 (249) St. Louis Derek Stanley 5-10 172 WR Wisconsin-Whitewater
Anybody heard of any Free Agent signings?
There is a rather extensive story on the front page of D3football.com.
I'm not sure if I've discussed this before, doing a list of famous alumni of D3 universities, players and non-players ... although technically, poker great Doyle Brunson (who apparently did some time at Hardin-Simmons) is a player. :)
Will have to work on this list and find a place for it.
This is straight off today's D3football.com front page, but should assist in updating the who's who in the pros list for 2007:
Stanley, Westbrook star in NFL openers
Derek Stanley caught four passes for 61 yards, returned a punt for 11 yards and two kickoffs for 41 yards as the St. Louis Rams beat the Minnesota Vikings 13-10 in the teams' preseason opener. The seventh-round draft pick out of UW-Whitewater had two catches for 37 yards in a drive that resulted in a Rams field goal, knotting the game at 10-10, and two more catches for 24 yards in a drive that ended in the game-winning kick.
"I don't know if it was surprise," Rams coach Scott Linehan said on the team's Web site. "I think we have always felt that he has that ability. I think that the game not seeming too big for him was encouraging and he did a nice job of coming in and doing some returning and making some plays as a receiver."
Among other Division III alumni trying to establish themselves in the NFL, Coe alumnus Fred Jackson had a team-high eight carries for 49 yards and a touchdown, as well as two receptions for 19 yards as the Bills beat the Saints 13-10.
Michael Allan, drafted out of Whitworth by the Kansas City Chiefs, caught a pass for 18 yards in the team's 16-12 loss to the Browns.
Redskins cornerback Byron Westbrook (Salisbury) recovered a fumble for a touchdown with 44 seconds left in Washington's 14-6 win against the Titans, while fullback Pete Schmitt (UW-Whitewater) caught a 10-yard pass. Westbrook also had a pair of tackles.
Tony Beckham (UW-Stout) had three tackles and a pass broken up for the Lions in a 27-26 win against the Bengals. He also recovered an onside kick on the hands team.
Giants punter Cody Ohnesorge (Occidental) kicked five times for an average of 43.2 yards in the team's 24-21 loss to the Panthers.
Jerheme Urban (Trinity, Texas) caught a pass for 9 yards in Dallas' 23-10 win against Indianapolis.
Jason Trusnik (Ohio Northern) played but did not record any stats for the Jets, while Joe Werner (UW-La Crosse) for the Packers and Todd Lowber (Ramapo) for the Vikings did the same.
Brett Elliott (Linfield) and T.J. Cottrell (Buffalo State) did not play in the Chargers' loss to the Seahawks.
Urb also fielded a punt and got immediately clocked. But he held on to the ball. :D
Saw earlier today while reading transactions (what? At least they pay me) that Jamal Robertson (ONU) I think took an injury settlement and was released by the Falcons, while Chris Jackson was cut by the Steelers on July 31, signed by the Saints, waived Aug. 7, released Aug. 8, signed by the Jaguars Aug. 9 and waived Aug. 10.
Not certain that's Chris Jackson of Millsaps fame, but I thought that guy was getting and NFL look and it was a reciever in transactions.
Either way, that's a rough 10 days.
Unless he got some scratch for signing...a little taste now and then beats working the customer service counter at Staples.
That was the Chris Jackson from Millsaps, Keith.
Quote from: Ron Boerger on August 14, 2007, 09:42:09 AM
That was the Chris Jackson from Millsaps, Keith.
And when he is inducted into the Millsaps Athletic Hall of Fame, which NFL logo will he wear? :)
All I know is that he got a helluva lot closer to playing in the NFL than any of us here - my hat's off to anyone who can get invited to a camp.
Quote from: Ron Boerger on August 14, 2007, 05:30:14 PM
All I know is that he got a helluva lot closer to playing in the NFL than any of us here - my hat's off to anyone who can get invited to a camp.
You didn't know about my 3 preseason games with the Panthers in '98?
Quote from: smedindy on August 14, 2007, 08:56:54 AMUnless he got some scratch for signing...a little taste now and then beats working the customer service counter at Staples.
Who you tellin?
(goes back to work)
Just thought dude had a rough week ... that was a sympathetic post.
Quote from: K-Mack on August 14, 2007, 07:17:59 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on August 14, 2007, 05:30:14 PM
All I know is that he got a helluva lot closer to playing in the NFL than any of us here - my hat's off to anyone who can get invited to a camp.
You didn't know about my 3 preseason games with the Panthers in '98?
::)
Quote from: K-Mack on August 14, 2007, 07:17:59 PM
You didn't know about my 3 preseason games with the Panthers in '98?
Dang - leave it to the one writer who actually played to gum up the works. :D
Quote from: Ron Boerger on August 14, 2007, 07:41:54 PM
Quote from: K-Mack on August 14, 2007, 07:17:59 PM
You didn't know about my 3 preseason games with the Panthers in '98?
Dang - leave it to the one writer who actually played to gum up the works. :D
I didn't really get an NFL sniff, just making the point that you can't just assume.
Ralph Turner coulda backed up Ken Stabler for all we know. Or Red Grange.
Quote from: K-Mack on August 15, 2007, 01:51:10 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on August 14, 2007, 07:41:54 PM
Quote from: K-Mack on August 14, 2007, 07:17:59 PM
You didn't know about my 3 preseason games with the Panthers in '98?
Dang - leave it to the one writer who actually played to gum up the works. :D
I didn't really get an NFL sniff, just making the point that you can't just assume.
Ralph Turner coulda backed up Ken Stabler for all we know. Or Red Grange.
I thought Ralph was team physician for the Decatur Staleys.
Quote from: K-Mack on August 15, 2007, 01:51:10 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on August 14, 2007, 07:41:54 PM
Quote from: K-Mack on August 14, 2007, 07:17:59 PM
You didn't know about my 3 preseason games with the Panthers in '98?
Dang - leave it to the one writer who actually played to gum up the works. :D
I didn't really get an NFL sniff, just making the point that you can't just assume.
Ralph Turner coulda backed up Ken Stabler for all we know. Or Red Grange.
No, but Ray Rhodes was my roommate at the UIL Regional Track Meet my sophomore year in high school. (15 nanoseconds of fame... :D )
I don't know if anyone caught it but Chiefs GM Carl Pederson took little time on the ESPN broadcast tonight in acknowledging Whitworth's Michael Allan tonight. He went out of his way to point out the fact that Allen is their "7th round pick from Division III Whitworth College" to Tirico, Kornheiser and Jaworski. Allen caught the first pass from scrimmage for Chiefs QB Brodie Croyle.
***And as soon as I hit post, Croyle hit Allan again and Pederson once again went out of his way to point out Allan's draft status and his school/division.
Quote from: reality check on August 16, 2007, 09:08:16 PM
I don't know if anyone caught it but Chiefs GM Carl Pederson took little time on the ESPN broadcast tonight in acknowledging Whitworth's Michael Allan tonight. He went out of his way to point out the fact that Allen is their "7th round pick from Division III Whitworth College" to Tirico, Kornheiser and Jaworski. Allen caught the first pass from scrimmage for Chiefs QB Brodie Croyle.
***And as soon as I hit post, Croyle hit Allan again and Pederson once again went out of his way to point out Allan's draft status and his school/division.
I wonder if he was trying to let everyone know how awesome his scouting dept. is :)
Just getting around to this thread, but...
You still keep that FAQ page updated? Fletcher's on the 'Skins now. Not that I would know. ::)
I can see why he didn't get a lot of big-school love out of HS. Dude's short.
When the roster dust settles this fall I'll update that, yes.
This is a great thread. I wish the main website kept a running archive of past and present players that made it to the next level. It might help recruiting and exposure for d3 football.
Fred Jackson from Coe is playing quite well for the Bills this preseason and has a great chance of making the team.
Trinity's Jerheme Urban appears to be safe after the first cut-down... he has been returning kickoffs, punts and been a gunner on defense... as well as knowing all the WR positions.... The Cowboys need somebody with brains, character, work-ethic and skills!
A lot of other Division III alums weren't so fortunate. The following players were recently released:
- Brett Elliott, San Diego
- T.J. Cotrell, San Diego
- Bryant Shaw, Washington
- Todd Lowber, Minnesota
- Joe Werner, Green Bay
The later two were Division III basketball players hoping to catch on in camp.
Pete Schmitt has also survived the first cut-down.
From www.warhawkfootball.com:
No news was good news for former Warhawk, Pete Schmitt, on Monday.
The first major cutdown day is Tuesday, Aug. 28 for NFL teams. The Washington Redskins announced six cuts on Monday and Schmitt was NOT on the list.
The complete list of released players is as follows: Jerametrius Butler (CB), Jamaal Green (DE), Kevin Jones (LB), Jerel Myers (WR), Todd Pinkston (WR), and Bryant Shaw (DE).
Schmitt remains the No. 2 fullback on Washington's depth chart despite the team signing veteran fullback Fred Beasley late last week.
The Redskins' roster currently stands at 79 players. The team has until 4 p.m. ET on Tuesday to reduce the roster to the league-mandated 75 players. The Redskins have four players with NFL Europe exemptions, so they may not need to release any additional players.
Bryant Shaw is a D-III alumnus, Mississippi COllege.
IMO Urban is definitely on the bubble and needs a good game Thursday night to stick with the Cowboys. While there can be little doubt that he is working hard and doing everything the 'pokes are asking he has not yet excelled on the field. Last Saturday saw him get an assist on punt coverage, three fair catches on punts, and one punt return inside the ten for two yards. He saw very limited time at WR, not entering the game until very late and did not have a ball thrown his way.
I am certainly keeping my fingers crossed because Jerheme is a class act who improves the more he is on the field, but the Cowboys seem to have a love affair for another couple of young WRs (their fourth round draft choice Stanbeck who played QB in college and another the name of Miles Austin). Stanbeck has started to show something; Austin has dropped/fumbled more passes than Jerheme has seen in pre-season play, yet they keep giving him chances. Urban probably has to beat out one of those two guys to make the team and his flexibility will be a key.
Washington is the vanguard of Division III football players in one sense. Along with Schmitt, the roster includes Bryron Westbrook (Salisbury), Ryan Hoag (Gustavus Adolphus) and London Fletcher (John Carroll).
And I don't know how much of a safety net the NFL Europa extensions carry since the league folded this summer.
Quote from: footballfan413 on August 28, 2007, 08:58:30 AM
Pete Schmitt has also survived the first cut-down.
From www.warhawkfootball.com:
No news was good news for former Warhawk, Pete Schmitt, on Monday.
The first major cutdown day is Tuesday, Aug. 28 for NFL teams. The Washington Redskins announced six cuts on Monday and Schmitt was NOT on the list.
The complete list of released players is as follows: Jerametrius Butler (CB), Jamaal Green (DE), Kevin Jones (LB), Jerel Myers (WR), Todd Pinkston (WR), and Bryant Shaw (DE).
Schmitt remains the No. 2 fullback on Washington's depth chart despite the team signing veteran fullback Fred Beasley late last week.
The Redskins' roster currently stands at 79 players. The team has until 4 p.m. ET on Tuesday to reduce the roster to the league-mandated 75 players. The Redskins have four players with NFL Europe exemptions, so they may not need to release any additional players.
Pete Schmitt was in fact put on waivers today. Redskins.com says Schmitt has a shoulder injury. Sounds like they hope he clears waivers and they can re-sign him and put on IR. Last week, the Redskins signed fullback Fred Beasley, an 8-year NFL veteran who adds more experience behind starting fullback Mike Sellers.
For more : http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=21964 (http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=21964)
Quote from: Tom33 on August 24, 2007, 03:06:40 PM
This is a great thread. I wish the main website kept a running archive of past and present players that made it to the next level. It might help recruiting and exposure for d3 football.
I consider the board part of the main site, but there is an ever-changing list of current players linked from the front page, under FAQ, referenced in the posts directly above yours.
If by archive, you mean a list of players who have logged NFL time going back to 1973, the first year of Division III, or all-time alumni of current Division III schools who have played in the NFL, I would file that under "things that are easy to maintain but would take quite a bit of time to compile."
There was once a book here at Sports Weekly, which is now out of print I believe, called the Football Encyclopedia or something, and it listed every player from every school who had ever appeared in a regular-season NFL game. I used to skim it from time to time, there were definitely some neat connections, but many of them were from way way back.
We've been told our site is cluttered, and yet there are more lists and links we feel are relevant to our readers than we know what to do with. This would be another. Would be a fun project though. Maybe if someone can volunteer the time, I can point them in the right direction as far as what to search for and how to compile it. I don't see anyone on the D3 staff having the time to go back the 70s during the season, although we will monitor the current guys.
Lastly, I don't know if it's our place to help recruiting, even in general vs. other divisions. The NFL link I think would be a decent recruiting tool for individual schools though, if you can bring a kid in on a visit and point to an alum or two on the wall and remind them that the dream doesn't necessarily have to die in D3. Then again, NFL futures are not what we're made of and they aren't reality for the vast majority of our players. They aren't generally what these coaches are selling -- that's usually the chance to play college football at a complex level, and graduate from a top-notch small school.
FWIW.
In the first half of the Cowboys-Vikings game, Jerheme Urban had a nice 95-yd punt return for TD early in the first quarter (where he broke a tackle or two on the way), three short catches for 13 yds (two first downs gained), fumbled his first catch on a tackle from behind, one kickoff return for 23 yds (as the up man on ahalf-ending squibbed kickoff), ten yards on two other punt returns. The guy he's probably competing against has two catches for 20 yds but had two 15-20 yd catches wiped out by penalties.
Running back a punt for a TD is always a good way to impress the coaches.
We'll see, Smed. He didn't play much more than a series in the second half and had one more short catch. Too bad about the danged fumble, it gives them too much to think about.
On the day when his little brother got his first collegiate catches and returns, Jerheme Urban got cut by the Cowboys, who elected to keep ten offensive linemen rather than seven WRs.
Unfortunately word came into the TU pressbox at 1:45 that the Cowboys cut Jerheme Urban and chose to keep rookie Isaah Stanback.... Hope Jerheme lands on another roster (Green Bay are you listening?)
2003 Coe College graduate and two-time IIAC MVP Fred Jackson made the Buffalo Bills' 53-man roster today!
Congratulations to Jackson and Whitworth's Michael Allen who made the Kansas City Chiefs' roster. They appear to be the only two new Division III players to survive cut-down day.
Congrats to Jackson and Allen ... and Urban got claimed off waivers by the Cardinals today!
http://www.azcardinals.com/news/detail.php?PRKey=1881
Derek Stanley signed on to the Rams practice squad today.
Jason Trusnik was signed to the Jets practice squad that was announced today on nyjets.com.
Ron, you beat me to the Jerheme news.
AP gave your Tigahs some love ... by getting the name right!
QuoteCardinals get defensive end Moses, wideout Urban off waivers
September 3, 2007
TEMPE, Ariz. (AP) -- The Arizona Cardinals have claimed defensive end Quentin Moses and wide receiver Jehreme Urban off waivers.
To make room on the roster, the team placed defensive end Chike Okeafor on injured reserve and released tight end rookie Ben Patrick.
Moses was Oakland's third-round draft pick this year out of Georgia, but was released when the Raiders made cuts to a 53-man roster on Saturday.
Urban, an undrafted free agent out of Trinity University, played 11 games in three seasons with Seattle, then was signed by Dallas last October and spent the rest of the season on the Cowboys' practice squad.
Okeafor, projected as Arizona's starting outside linebacker, is out for the season with a torn triceps tendon.
Patrick was the Cardinals' seventh-round draft pick this year out of Delaware.
Good for Stanley, Trusnik, et. al.
Jerheme Urban was activated by the Cardinals today for the first time this season ... tough matchup against the 3-0 Steelers ... caught one pass so far, 15 yds. Hoping that they take out Leinart and put in Warner again, Warner was much more effective passing the ball last week.
Edit: Warner came in, Urban caught a 20-yd pass on a third-and-16 to prolong a two-minute drill drive so two catches for 35 yds at the half.
Urban scored his second career NFL TD on the Cards' first drive of the second half, from six yards out. He ended the game, a 21-14 win, with five catches for 53 yds, 1 TD, and a tackle after one of the other WRs fumbled. Not bad when you figure (a) he hasn't played a regular-season game since 2005, and (b) his season high (before this year ;)) was seven catches.
Ron, I knew when I saw Urban's numbers you'd be all over this. :D
Quote from: K-Mack on October 01, 2007, 01:43:36 AM
Ron, I knew when I saw Urban's numbers you'd be all over this. :D
ROFL ... yeah, I was surfing yesterday when I thot, "why not look at NFL.com to see if they finally let Jerheme play". From reading a couple of stories, one of the Cards' starting WRs was out with a minor injury. It would appear that Jerheme has been bumped up from #6 to #4 on the depth chart. The #3 WR is also having a rough go of it and there's some speculation that Jerheme might be able to get the #3 spot. Arizona primarily runs a 2 WR set but #4 or (#3) is better than #6.
Today's update to the Cards' depth chart (http://www.azcardinals.com/gameday/depth_chart.php) has moved Urban either to #3 or #4 WR. I had a chat with the guy who writes for the Cards' NFL site (interestingly enough named Darren Urban!) who said that even though he things Jerheme is already a better receiver that those guys are key special teams players and it will be hard for Jerheme to be activated at WR without injuries. Guess we'll have to wait and see!
Steve Breaston took a punt to the house to break a tie in the 4th of the Steelers game, so I'm guessing his job is safe.
And then you have Larry Fitzgerald, Anquan Boldin and Bryant Johnson who all play when healthy.
I think Boldin was deactivated the other day.
Who else is in the mix?
Boldin (who was injured last week, leading to Urban's activation) is #1, Fitzgerald is #2.
Bryant Johnson has been having a miserable year so far. According to SI.com he's caught less than half of the passes thrown his way this year with some drops. He is listed as the backup to Boldin, Urban is now shown as the backup to Fitzgerald. In four games Johnson has seven catches; he's been a 40-500 guy the last four seasons, last year he caught more long balls and had nearly 800 yards.
Sean Morey, the other WR (now shown behind Urban), sees a lot of time on special teams. Two catches in four games. Breaston hasn't caught a ball this year but as you say he is the feature return guy (KR/PR) and will be on the roster no matter what.
The Cards generally run a 2 WR set and only rarely go into four wide, so they generally leave a WR on the inactive list.
Morey is a kindred spirit, since he's a Brown alum. Morey's also one of the best special teams players in the NFL. So he won't be deactivated.
They may go with six wideouts since Morey is only a WR in emergencies and Breaston is the return man. More and more NFL teams have roster spots for these uber-specialists. I remember when it was unusual to have a roster spot just for the long snapper, but now many teams have one and some now don't even mess with the facade of calling them a TE or a LB.
Smed: Cards historically only activate 5 WRs, at least that's been the pattern this year. Maybe they will change but then someone else will have to be inactive ...
Boldin didn't play again today so Urban did, three catches for 28 yds, long of 14. From the stat sheet they (both Leinart and Warner) tried him deep but didn't connect either time.
Ron
He also became the emergency backup QB when Leinart went down with his injury according to the radio broadcast out here today.
Yep, he was the emergency QB last week too - normally Boldin's role. Given that Jerheme hasn't played QB competitively since high school it's probably a good thing he wasn't pressed into service. ;)
Not a good game for Urban today, I'm afraid. He had a couple of balls thrown his way deep, bobbled both of them, the last was a pass that would have gotten the Cards in position for a possible game-tying TD but instead was pulled out of the air by the defender for an interception. *&*&^*&^!!!
No catches on the day. His one catch (for five yards) was wiped out by a penalty the Cards elected to take.
Anquan Boldin probably comes back next week which may mean back on the inactive list for Jerheme. Given the Cards' QB problems that may even be optimistic (e.g. they might want to cut him to sign another QB). Warner was hurt today and Rattay played nearly the entire game.
EDIT: He caught a pass on the last play of the game, for 42 yards. Now I just hope it's not the last of his NFL career.
I am sure the famous Joe Green from North Texas expected to land in a bigger college, but he did ok. And N. Texas is D1 and seems to be getting roundly thumped, so they are no better in most football fans' eyes than a lot of D3 teams. I bet there are a lot of pro players from small schools.
My rough guess is that currently there are in the neighborhood of 12 DIII players on NFL game-day rosters and that no more than a small handful are members of their teams' starting 22. Of course someone could check the rosters for precise resolution of this question, but I ain't going to be it.
Quote from: frank uible on October 18, 2007, 07:22:15 AM
My rough guess is that currently there are in the neighborhood of 12 DIII players on NFL game-day rosters and that no more than a small handful are members of their teams' starting 22. Of course someone could check the rosters for precise resolution of this question, but I ain't going to be it.
Here's the list as of the first of this season:
http://www.d3football.com/faq.php?answer&category=General&id=30
QuoteAt the beginning of the 2007 season, here are the players who were on active rosters or injured:
Arizona: Jerheme Urban, WR, Trinity (Texas) - #4 WR, 9-123 1TD
Buffalo: Fred Jackson, RB, Coe - # 4 RB, no carries
Denver: Nate Jackson, WR, Menlo - TE on IR, 3-34 1 TD
Detroit: Tony Beckham, CB, UW-Stout - #5/6 DB, 1 tackle
Houston: Matt Turk, P, UW-Whitewater - starting P, 16 punts/44.5 yd avg
Kansas City: Michael Allan, TE, Whitworth - now on Chiefs' practice squad
Pittsburgh: Clint Kriewaldt, LB, UW-Stevens Point - #2 ILB, 5 tackles
Washington: London Fletcher, LB, John Carroll - starting MLB, 39 tackles, 1 INT
This specifically does not include practice squad players, of which there were a few at the beginning of the 2007 season: UW-Whitewater WR Derek Stanley (St. Louis), Ohio Northern LB Jason Trusnik (N.Y. Jets) and Salisbury CB Byron Westbrook (Washington) - all still practice squad
Interesting to note that the two starters are both long-term guys (ninth, tenth years respectively).
Great work and research. I reckon my lesson here is that Pro Football pays well enough and wants only players who have played at the level of intensity you find in D 1. The smaller conferences can turn out skillful players, but the Pros have to question the desire of the products of smaller programs.
The NFL desires good players and is not interested in creating and satisfying biases to the frustration of that desire. Bottom line - very few current DIII players are good enough.
D3 players, even the very good ones, simply don't play against the level of competition you see every day in D1. Going from D1 to the pros is a huge jump - look at how few D1 players can do it - but from D3 it is a monstrous gap. And unlike D1, there just aren't many D3 players that have their hearts set on playing professionally.
I also think that many coaches look at a kid's resume, see D3, and automatically discount them. Those D3 players who have made it to the big game have overcome a lot of obstacles and I salute them.
In general for a DIII player being initially considered by a scout it is one strike (one major shortcoming - such as a great lack of speed), and you're out. For a DIA player - two strikes. Of course there can be disagreement among scouts about what constitutes a "strike" and when a "strike" becomes so great that it actually comprises two "strikes". These are reasonable general rules of thumb designed to save an NFL club from expending limited dollars and other resources on considering a prospect who almost assuredly will fail. Does application of these rules occasionally produce mistakes? Yes, but they save lots of dollars and effort, which can be used exploring prospects who have a much better chance of contributing.
ovc00777,
Listen to these guys. You might end up with a clue. ;)
The better players tend to go to major D1s from the start, so it's really only guys who slipped through the cracks (QB Tom Arth was injured as a senior in HS, but had a good enough career at John Carroll to spend some time with the Colts and Packers) or who were late developers.
For someone like London Fletcher, he's still what one might consider undersized for an NFL linebacker at 5-10, 245, but there are obviously other aspects of his game that have made up for that shortcoming.
There are lots of reasons why D3 puts out just a few NFL prospects per year, but none greater than most of the rare talents with ideal size & speed have already been snapped up by programs offering full scholarships.
The reason Pete Metzelaars went to Wabash is that Bo Schembechler would not let him play basketball. However, that was a LONG time ago and kids are being asked to choose one sport much earlier now. Pity.
If it hadn't been for the USFL Sam Mills never would have sniffed the NFL, he was considered to small and too slow. The same knocks that Nick Buonuconti (sp) had coming into the pros, he was lucky the Boston Patriots and AFL needed players.
Yeah, I mean there's always going to be certain guys who are players and simply won't be denied, same as they are always going to be guys who get by for a while on size & speed but lack the drive (or perhaps the right coaching or situation) to catch on in the NFL.
London Fletcher (JCU) just ran back an INT for a TD in the Skins,Cards game. It's his third career defensive TD.
Fletcher was huge today ... in addition to the pick six he had 13 tackles, 10 solo. He gets the D3 NFL player of the week award.
Urban saw limited action with Anquan Boldin being active for the first time in several weeks, but had a very nice grab way up in the air for 22 on the Cards' fourth quarter drive which drew them to within two. He also recovered the resulting onside kick. He ended the day with three catches for 41 yards. Unfortunately the Cards just missed a 55-yard FG with one second left and ended up losing 21-19.
Quote from: Ron Boerger on October 21, 2007, 04:04:06 PM
Fletcher was huge today ... in addition to the pick six he had 13 tackles, 10 solo. He gets the D3 NFL player of the week award.
Urban saw limited action with Anquan Boldin being active for the first time in several weeks, but had a very nice grab way up in the air for 22 on the Cards' fourth quarter drive which drew them to within two. He also recovered the resulting onside kick. He ended the day with three catches for 41 yards. Unfortunately the Cards just missed a 55-yard FG with one second left and ended up losing 21-19.
One of my friends has urban on his fantasy team. He was on the bench today, but he is on the team.
London Fletcher made "Who's Hot" in this week's SI:
"The Washington linebacker's interception, TD return and game-high 13 tackles against Arizona is just the latest. Last year the Redskins were 31st in defense. Now, after landing Fletcher as their leader, they're at No. 4. Defensive end Philip Daniels: 'That's our difference maker.'"
Is Fletcher headed for the Pro Football HOF, thereby becoming the 5th (my possibly inaccurate count) person there, whose birthplace is Cleveland?
Carlos Rogers injury could move Salisbury's Byron Westbrook up from the practice squad.
http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=30809
Here is a list of the top 25 prospects in d3 by position.....
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/playersdiv3.php?genpos=QB&draftyear=2008&sortorder=tsxpos&order=ASC
Just based on film Pierre Garcon WR from Mount Union will probably have the best shot of getting drafted, he has tons of talent.
Not sure if it has been said yet but Freddie Jackson from Coe College is on with the Bills. He got his first carries a week or two ago.
I was just wondering if anyones knows of any kickers or punters making it to the pro's. Just wondering since I realized this years D3 leader is average 45+, which would put him in the Top 10 in D1.
http://www.d3football.com/faq.php?answer&category=General&id=30
Houston's Matt Turk is the only D3 punter (UW-Whitewater) currently in the league.
Turk was the subject of ridicule recently, if you remember, when he totally flailed at a punt that went into the end zone.
And White Water was not D-3 when he was there.
Quote from: Knightstalker on November 07, 2007, 12:40:27 PM
And White Water was not D-3 when he was there.
That may come as some surprise to the 1984 Division III men's basketball national champion Warhawks.
Whitewater was an early adopter of D-III from the WSUC.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 07, 2007, 08:05:25 PM
Quote from: Knightstalker on November 07, 2007, 12:40:27 PM
And White Water was not D-3 when he was there.
That may come as some surprise to the 1984 Division III men's basketball national champion Warhawks.
Whitewater was an early adopter of D-III from the WSUC.
For some reason I thought they were one of the last ones to migrate from NAIA.
After being out several week with a heel injury, Jerheme Urban had his best outing to date in what was otherwise a bad day for the Cardinals. Playing against the team which gave him his first chance in the NFL, Seattle, Jerheme was the leading receiver in the game. His six catches and 123 yards receiving were both new career highs, and his two-yard reception for TD was his third career score.
Urban got more chances due to injuries to the Cards' #1 WR (as well as the #2 playing hurt) and the #1 TE.
Coe RB Fred Jackson (15 carries, 115 yds rushing; 1 reception, 6 yards against Miami) and Urban get some love on NFL.com from none other than Gil Brandt in Undrafted... and unstoppable! (http://www.dabearz.com/forums/28447-undrafted-and-unstoppable.html).
Against Washington last week, Jackson had 82 yards on 15 carries in addition to 69 yards on 4 catches. No touchdowns yet but with those kinds of numbers it's only a matter of time.
Independent Indoor Football AllianceWWW.IIFAFOOTBALL.COM NEW ARENA FOOTBALL TEAMS (9) ARE LOOKING FOR PLAYERS.
THE EAST COAST TRYOUT FOR THE IIFA
(INDEPENDENT INDOOR FOOTBALL ALLIANCE). WILL
HOST A WORKOUT IN CHARLOTTE NC SATURDAY DECEMBER 28TH 2007 FROM 9:30AM - 13:00 THE CAMP WILL BE AT THE FOOTBALL FIELD AT HARRISBURG PARK (GRASS SURFACE). 704 – 455- 5614 SHAWN LINE IS THE CONTACT PERSON. ALL PLAYERS SHOULD BRING OUTDOOR WORKOUT GEAR AND NO PADS (NON -CONTACT WORKOUT). PLAYER SHOULD ARRIVE EARLY TO SIGN PAPERWORK.
FORTY YARD DASH
SHORT SHUTTLE
FOOTBALL SKILL DRILLS
ONE ON ONE
TEAM SKILL WORK
$50 WORK OUT FEE, CASH ONLY NO CHECKS/OR CARDS.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
· PLAYERS ARE PAID (CONTRACT LEVELS VARY PER SKILL LEVEL)
· HOUSING, MEAL, INSURANCE, JOB PLACMENT AND OPEN END CONTRACT- MOVE UP AT ANYTIME TO HIGHER LEVEL LEAGUE NO LOCKDOWN CONTRACTS.
· $50 CAMP FEE IS REFUNDED IF PLAYER MAKES FINAL CAMP ROSTER.
~ THE WAR ON THE FLOOR ~
This article was sent to me via an e-mail. Long before there was a DIV III, but still interesting.
www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/story.asp?story_id=14474
Quote from: Knightstalker on November 07, 2007, 10:57:54 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 07, 2007, 08:05:25 PM
Quote from: Knightstalker on November 07, 2007, 12:40:27 PM
And White Water was not D-3 when he was there.
That may come as some surprise to the 1984 Division III men's basketball national champion Warhawks.
Whitewater was an early adopter of D-III from the WSUC.
For some reason I thought they were one of the last ones to migrate from NAIA.
If I remember correctly UW-L was one of the last to come over form NAIA around 1986 I believe. WW was already D-III. Turk played when WW was D-III. I know... played with him at WW
WW had a player only was there for one year 1989 (Joe Panos) who ended up walking on to Wisconsin became a senior capt. and won a rose bowl. Had a decent career with the Eagles and Bills on the OL.
Quote from: kubiack78 on December 18, 2007, 06:08:37 AM
WW had a player only was there for one year 1989 (Joe Panos) who ended up walking on to Wisconsin became a senior capt. and won a rose bowl. Had a decent career with the Eagles and Bills on the OL.
Hey, as a Birds fan, I remember that guy.
Panos was short for something Greek and much longer.
Quote from: TLU_G.O.A.T on October 31, 2007, 01:07:49 PM
Here is a list of the top 25 prospects in d3 by position.....
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/playersdiv3.php?genpos=QB&draftyear=2008&sortorder=tsxpos&order=ASC
Just based on film Pierre Garcon WR from Mount Union will probably have the best shot of getting drafted, he has tons of talent.
Pretty cool that all those D3 guys were scouted ... although the lists for some reason include Chowan and Nortwestern Oklahoma State players in with our guys.
No surprises though, Wheaton's Andy Studebaker (6th round) and MUC's Pierre Garcon (7th/FA) were the only guys given draftable grades.
Studebaker, we were told, would have to switch from D3 DE to OLB in the NFL. That's reflected on the NFLDraftScout rankings.
Best of luck to Bryan Robinson, ranked 47th overall in the DE position. I hope he finds some pro action!!
-Ski
What amazes me when I see these rankings, is how poorly some teams do with such highly regarded players, and how well others, including my alma mater, St John's do, with so few. And some want to say that coaching isn't that important. This is not a one year observation.
Quote from: K-Mack on December 26, 2007, 01:54:46 PM
Quote from: kubiack78 on December 18, 2007, 06:08:37 AM
WW had a player only was there for one year 1989 (Joe Panos) who ended up walking on to Wisconsin became a senior capt. and won a rose bowl. Had a decent career with the Eagles and Bills on the OL.
Hey, as a Birds fan, I remember that guy.
Panos was short for something Greek and much longer.
might have been something longer but he was just joe Panos when I knew him... he was a man child at the time. UW turned him into a stud.
One or two players out of 22 starters isn't enough to make that kind of a difference, retagent -- that's probably why.
The overall rankings are more important to see where our guys stack up at this link.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=ILB&draftyear=2008&sortorder=tsxpos&order=ASC
Studebaker 15th OLB
Garcon 37th WR
Robinson 47th DE
Raebel 65th ILB (was as high as 50th during season but doesn't have a 40 time listed yet)
Jones 64th QB
Barmore 61st QB
Ramseier 64th OG
Freeman 83rd OLB
I may have missed someone. Anyway, the point is that several D-3 players are being ranked in the top 65 of all levels. Pretty impressive.
If those rankings are taken as absolutely accurate and perfectly reflective of a common evaluation by all 32 NFL teams at the time of the draft (one huge and impossible "if"), then Studebaker will be drafted (approximately late in the 5th round depending on the teams' perceptions at that time of their needs for OLBs relative to other player personnel needs), and none of the others will be.
I think most of us understand the odds of being drafted out of D-3 but the two that were last season are on active rosters right now. Stanley is playing special teams for the Rams and Allen just signed a 3 year deal with the Chiefs.
Drafted or not, the NFL very rarely misses a player that can play. Baseball and hockey trap deserving players in the minors, and many NBA caliber players wind up in Europe for a stretch because of the contract situations in the NBA, but the NFL usually gets it right.
Quote from: footballfan413 on December 29, 2007, 10:27:38 AM
The overall rankings are more important to see where our guys stack up at this link.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=ILB&draftyear=2008&sortorder=tsxpos&order=ASC
Studebaker 15th OLB
Garcon 37th WR
Robinson 47th DE
Raebel 65th ILB (was as high as 50th during season but doesn't have a 40 time listed yet)
Jones 64th QB
Barmore 61st QB
Ramseier 64th OG
Freeman 83rd OLB
I may have missed someone. Anyway, the point is that several D-3 players are being ranked in the top 65 of all levels. Pretty impressive.
Robinson was probably the only other guy I was certain would get a shot. Have heard good things about Freeman, although I wonder if they would try to make him play another position, like strong safety. Raebel seems like an interesting prospect, he definitely has the size and was a D3 stud.
Sounds like 1-2 draftees at most, then a handful of guys who will get free-agent shots to impress/camp invites.
Also plenty of time for things to change between now and draft day :)
I wonder is Studebaker has a cousin named Rambler? It is a good linebackers name though.
Maybe Kurt Ramler (SJU alum and current Carlton coach) is close enough. Thatnks Pat for that bit of wisdom. ;). Does the sun rise in the east too?
I would not say that the NFL gets it right all the time. You have examples such as Kurt Warner out there, and the bottom line is that the NFL can not get to everybody. Mainly because DIII games are not broadcasted except for the championship. Unless you put up ungodly stats the nfl at first might not look at you. That's why organizations such as the Af2 are important. Even though most people feel the Af2 is not a big league, it's a start. I think the total is 65 players from this past AF2 season have been signed to Arena Football 1 contracts. Af2 can be a great stepping stone for the d3 athlete. The Af2 is using us to help find them players.
www.beyondsportsnetwork.com
Enough plugging your site already. You've done it up and down every football board here. If you want to advertise talk to Pat and get his (very reasonable) rates.
Derek Stanley had 6 kick returns today with a long of 38, plus a 10 yard punt return.
Quote from: Ron Boerger on December 30, 2007, 06:26:54 PM
Enough plugging your site already. You've done it up and down every football board here. If you want to advertise talk to Pat and get his (very reasonable) rates.
Why does it bother you that we are offering something to players to help them further their football career. Actually, we were fortunate enough to receive a phone call two days ago, from a parent of a graduating dIII player explaining how happy he was to have seen our post here on the DIII message boards because our site was giving his son another outlet to further his career. Being a former DIII player I understand the struggle it takes to get into the professinal leagues(whether I was good enough or not, references on my success are available through DIII football.com). I'm sorry if it bothers you that I'm trying to help my former and future colleagues.
Quote from: CardsWr13 on December 31, 2007, 12:04:48 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on December 30, 2007, 06:26:54 PM
Enough plugging your site already. You've done it up and down every football board here. If you want to advertise talk to Pat and get his (very reasonable) rates.
Why does it bother you that we are offering something to players to help them further their football career. Actually, we were fortunate enough to receive a phone call two days ago, from a parent of a graduating dIII player explaining how happy he was to have seen our post here on the DIII message boards because our site was giving his son another outlet to further his career. Being a former DIII player I understand the struggle it takes to get into the professinal leagues(whether I was good enough or not, references on my success are available through DIII football.com). I'm sorry if it bothers you that I'm trying to help my former and future colleagues.
CardsWr13,
As I read the Terms of Service, your posting serial messages on multiple boards with your ".com" web site constitutes a violation.
QuoteWelcome to the D3sports.com message board. Post up your opinions about Division III sports here. Please, no commercial posts and no flaming. We will remove posts when necessary.
I agree with Ron. Buy an ad, and support this web site. A well-produced advertisement that outlines what you are selling will look much better to the prospective athletes, their coaches and their parents than your trolling these boards with your 700 member "dot-com" web site.
There are some real horror stories about "All-star games" that any serious prospective player will uncover doing the simplest research.
Click here. (http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=4966.0)
I hope that your venture is successful as an outlet for D-3 players to continue playing. I think that you can improve your solicitation effort, tho'.
Quote from: CardsWr13 on December 30, 2007, 06:02:09 PM
I would not say that the NFL gets it right all the time. You have examples such as Kurt Warner out there, and the bottom line is that the NFL can not get to everybody.
QB may be the one position the NFL misses some players on, but you only have 2-3 per team. Besides, the NFL didn't miss on Warner, since he did play in the league after an apprenticeship. The NFL didn't forget him, unlike MLB or the NBA or the NHL where you're shunted off and you may never get back.
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 31, 2007, 12:42:40 AM
Quote from: CardsWr13 on December 31, 2007, 12:04:48 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on December 30, 2007, 06:26:54 PM
Enough plugging your site already. You've done it up and down every football board here. If you want to advertise talk to Pat and get his (very reasonable) rates.
Why does it bother you that we are offering something to players to help them further their football career. Actually, we were fortunate enough to receive a phone call two days ago, from a parent of a graduating dIII player explaining how happy he was to have seen our post here on the DIII message boards because our site was giving his son another outlet to further his career. Being a former DIII player I understand the struggle it takes to get into the professinal leagues(whether I was good enough or not, references on my success are available through DIII football.com). I'm sorry if it bothers you that I'm trying to help my former and future colleagues.
CardsWr13,
As I read the Terms of Service, your posting serial messages on multiple boards with your ".com" web site constitutes a violation.
QuoteWelcome to the D3sports.com message board. Post up your opinions about Division III sports here. Please, no commercial posts and no flaming. We will remove posts when necessary.
I agree with Ron. Buy an ad, and support this web site. A well-produced advertisement that outlines what you are selling will look much better to the prospective athletes, their coaches and their parents than your trolling these boards with your 700 member "dot-com" web site.
There are some real horror stories about "All-star games" that any serious prospective player will uncover doing the simplest research.
Click here. (http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=4966.0)
I hope that your venture is successful as an outlet for D-3 players to continue playing. I think that you can improve your solicitation effort, tho'.
Ralph Turner,
I do not know who you are or why you are so upset at our site. I'm not sure if the "700 member" things is a shot at us. Our user level is pretty good since we only signed our agreement with the Af2 at the end of October. I'm sure if you asked Pat how many registered users he had after two months the results would not vary all that much. I don't know if you know but we have an exclusive deal with the Af2. I know there are other sites out there that try to take advantage of players rip them off. We don't even charge players. Most of the sites that rip players off are not backed by major football organizations. As far as supporting this site, I think Pat Coleman has done an incredible job of putting D3football.com together and it's an incredible site. I know that some of Pat's goals and dreams for D3football.com is to help D3football players, and that's what I'm trying to do here. I'm not at liberty to discuss in detail, but we have offered to support the D3football.com site in a significant financial way. I'm not trying to abuse the rules on these message boards, but rather trying to offer a friendly neighbor suggestion to athletes. We offer athletes the ability to post information about themselves and find out information on combines and tryouts that they can attend. If you have some genuine concerns about our site, I would love to address them either by email, phone, or message board. As I was saying before, the Af2 is a great entry point for the dIII players :)
Quote from: smedindy on December 31, 2007, 01:22:27 AM
Quote from: CardsWr13 on December 30, 2007, 06:02:09 PM
I would not say that the NFL gets it right all the time. You have examples such as Kurt Warner out there, and the bottom line is that the NFL can not get to everybody.
QB may be the one position the NFL misses some players on, but you only have 2-3 per team. Besides, the NFL didn't miss on Warner, since he did play in the league after an apprenticeship. The NFL didn't forget him, unlike MLB or the NBA or the NHL where you're shunted off and you may never get back.
I agree. Kicker and D-Line are two other positions missed, just because they are very hard to evaluate. There are limited number of kickers they end up having to go somewhere CFL, Af2, Arena.
Quote from: CardsWr13 on December 31, 2007, 01:30:13 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 31, 2007, 12:42:40 AM
Quote from: CardsWr13 on December 31, 2007, 12:04:48 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on December 30, 2007, 06:26:54 PM
Enough plugging your site already. You've done it up and down every football board here. If you want to advertise talk to Pat and get his (very reasonable) rates.
Why does it bother you that we are offering something to players to help them further their football career. Actually, we were fortunate enough to receive a phone call two days ago, from a parent of a graduating dIII player explaining how happy he was to have seen our post here on the DIII message boards because our site was giving his son another outlet to further his career. Being a former DIII player I understand the struggle it takes to get into the professinal leagues(whether I was good enough or not, references on my success are available through DIII football.com). I'm sorry if it bothers you that I'm trying to help my former and future colleagues.
CardsWr13,
As I read the Terms of Service, your posting serial messages on multiple boards with your ".com" web site constitutes a violation.
QuoteWelcome to the D3sports.com message board. Post up your opinions about Division III sports here. Please, no commercial posts and no flaming. We will remove posts when necessary.
I agree with Ron. Buy an ad, and support this web site. A well-produced advertisement that outlines what you are selling will look much better to the prospective athletes, their coaches and their parents than your trolling these boards with your 700 member "dot-com" web site.
There are some real horror stories about "All-star games" that any serious prospective player will uncover doing the simplest research.
Click here. (http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=4966.0)
I hope that your venture is successful as an outlet for D-3 players to continue playing. I think that you can improve your solicitation effort, tho'.
Ralph Turner,
I do not know who you are or why you are so upset at our site. I'm not sure if the "700 member" things is a shot at us. Our user level is pretty good since we only signed our agreement with the Af2 at the end of October. I'm sure if you asked Pat how many registered users he had after two months the results would not vary all that much. I don't know if you know but we have an exclusive deal with the Af2. I know there are other sites out there that try to take advantage of players rip them off. We don't even charge players. Most of the sites that rip players off are not backed by major football organizations. As far as supporting this site, I think Pat Coleman has done an incredible job of putting D3football.com together and it's an incredible site. I know that some of Pat's goals and dreams for D3football.com is to help D3football players, and that's what I'm trying to do here. I'm not at liberty to discuss in detail, but we have offered to support the D3football.com site in a significant financial way. I'm not trying to abuse the rules on these message boards, but rather trying to offer a friendly neighbor suggestion to athletes. We offer athletes the ability to post information about themselves and find out information on combines and tryouts that they can attend. If you have some genuine concerns about our site, I would love to address them either by email, phone, or message board. As I was saying before, the Af2 is a great entry point for the dIII players :)
Uhh ... we are in discussions that resemble that description, yes, which is why I haven't said anything so far ... but I can't say I'm overly thrilled with what is indeed a violation of the TOS.
Well, I guess the tribe has spoken, I will put my torch out. :)
Quote from: CardsWr13 on January 01, 2008, 12:52:16 AM
Well, I guess the tribe has spoken, I will put my torch out. :)
I think I speak for Ron, Ralph and Pat when I say we don't mind you keeping it lit if you do it in the proper way/place/vein.
None of us have anything against your site or your efforts, per se.
Thanks Pat, Keith and Ralph. With re the site (and the service), if it's legit, great. But random threads across multiple boards doesn't promote an air of legitimacy. I hope you get everything worked out to make it work for the kids that everyone posting here cares so passionately about.
Back to the topic of this thread, anyone have an interest in putting together the cumulative stats for all our D3 NFL players ? I've started with the ones listed in the FAQ:
Tony Beckham - DB, Detroit (UW-Stout)
5 tackles (3 solo), 1 pass defended
London Fletcher - MLB, Washington (John Carroll) D3 NFL MVP ;)
128 tackles (100 solo), 3 INT (36yds, 1 TD), 10 passes defended
Fred Jackson - RB, Buffalo (Coe)
58 carries, 300 yds (5.5 ypc), 22 receptions, 190 yds (8.8 ypc)
Nate Jackson - WR, Denver (Menlo) - ended season on IR
3 receptions, 34 yds (11.3 ypc), 1 TD
Clint Kriewaldt - LB, Pittsburgh (UW-Stephens Point)
10 tackles (3 solo)
Derek Stanley - WR, St. Louis (UW-Whitewater)
No catches, 1 rush, 5 yards, 1 fumble (recovered)
Jason Trusnik - LB, NY Jets (Ohio Northern) - ended season on IR
8 tackles, 4 solo
Mike Turk - P, Houston (UW-Whitewater)
55 punts, 41.7 yd avg, 37.9 yd net avg, 24 inside 20, no punts blocked
Jerheme Urban - WR, Arizona (Trinity [TX])
22 receptions, 329 yds (15.0 ypc), 2 TD, 1 OSK recovery
What about Justin Beaver for UW-Whitewater, are there any rumblings about him with NFL scouts? Is there any desire on his part to go pro?
Pierre Garcon got invited to the NFL combine........
QuoteHere is a complete list of small school players with combine invites:
CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie Tennessee State
OG Heath Benedict Newberry
QB Joe Flacco Delaware
OT Chad Rinehart Northern Iowa
OT Demetrius Bell Northwestern State
QB Josh Johnson San Diego
WR Jerome Simpson Coastal Carolina
DE Brian Johnston Gardner-Webb
FB Jerome Felton Furman
P Mike Dragosavich North Dakota State
DE Curtis Johnson Clark Atlanta
RB Xavier Omon Northwest Missouri State
WR Jaymar Johnson Jackson State
WR Pierre Garcon Mount Union
Where did you see that list published, out of curiosity?
http://www.d2messageboard.com/showthread.php?t=8213&page=2
Darn, was hoping it was a reliable source.
It is very reliable...that list was posted by Josh Buchanan....He is the guy that projects all the d2 players to the Pro Level...and his lists are always legit.
I'm sure it is, but a post on a message board can't carry as much weight as a news story somewhere. :-\
UWW linebacker, Raebel, moving up 13 places on the draft site from 61 to 48! Red arrow indicates stock is rising.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=ILB&draftyear=2008&sortby=tsxpos&order=ASC&startspot=25
It is 48th among ILBs, not all LBs - which is not within draftable range.
Still, a nice jump in the right direction. I will always bow to your expertise, Frank, but if I recall correctly, you were pretty convinced that Derek Stanley wouldn't get drafted either. ;)
Never saw, live or on tape, Stanley play or workout, but the numbers were against his being drafted.
Doesn't that go without saying for any D-III player, odds are not with them but point is, it can and has happened.
But let me be clear, I am not argueing that Raebel will get drafted, just saying that you can never say never.
Some people don't realize that being from DIII amounts to having one strike automatically against you in a two-strike-and-your-out game.
Quote from: frank uible on January 22, 2008, 07:27:33 PM
Some people don't realize that being from DIII amounts to having one strike automatically against you in a two-strike-and-your-out game.
We just need more clutch hitters! ;D
Quote from: Ron Boerger on January 01, 2008, 10:08:49 PM
Thanks Pat, Keith and Ralph. With re the site (and the service), if it's legit, great. But random threads across multiple boards doesn't promote an air of legitimacy. I hope you get everything worked out to make it work for the kids that everyone posting here cares so passionately about.
Back to the topic of this thread, anyone have an interest in putting together the cumulative stats for all our D3 NFL players ? I've started with the ones listed in the FAQ:
Tony Beckham - DB, Detroit (UW-Stout)
5 tackles (3 solo), 1 pass defended
London Fletcher - MLB, Washington (John Carroll) D3 NFL MVP ;)
128 tackles (100 solo), 3 INT (36yds, 1 TD), 10 passes defended
Fred Jackson - RB, Buffalo (Coe)
58 carries, 300 yds (5.5 ypc), 22 receptions, 190 yds (8.8 ypc)
Nate Jackson - WR, Denver (Menlo) - ended season on IR
3 receptions, 34 yds (11.3 ypc), 1 TD
Clint Kriewaldt - LB, Pittsburgh (UW-Stephens Point)
10 tackles (3 solo)
Derek Stanley - WR, St. Louis (UW-Whitewater)
No catches, 1 rush, 5 yards, 1 fumble (recovered)
Jason Trusnik - LB, NY Jets (Ohio Northern) - ended season on IR
8 tackles, 4 solo
Mike Turk - P, Houston (UW-Whitewater)
55 punts, 41.7 yd avg, 37.9 yd net avg, 24 inside 20, no punts blocked
Jerheme Urban - WR, Arizona (Trinity [TX])
22 receptions, 329 yds (15.0 ypc), 2 TD, 1 OSK recovery
Not that it really matters, but Derek Stanley also had 20 kick returns for 509 yards. A 25.5 yard average with a long of 49 yards.
Also, it's Matt Turk, not Mike Turk.
I'm a UWW homer.
I can tell. You didn't bother to correct Stephens Point to 'Stevens' :D
Michael Allan was active in three games for the Chiefs, although he might not have had any catches.
Honestly, I forget.
No catches. No special teams tackles. He may have been on the 53-man but may not have been 'active' on game day.
Quote from: smedindy on January 30, 2008, 12:39:18 PM
No catches. No special teams tackles. He may have been on the 53-man but may not have been 'active' on game day.
:D
Phil Savage GM of the Clevelan Browns recently spoke at a local church program and indicated that MUC's Pierre Garcon was rated the 44th reciever on the draft report. He also indicated the The Browns would be interested in his services. Although they wouldnt draft him. Looks like the kid can play at the next level, but the pros consider him not worthy of a draft pick and/ or a signing bonus. Go figure! I hope Garcon gets his chance to show his skills in the NFL someday.
He'll be one of the eight or nine wideouts at a camp, and he'll have to make some good special teams plays or be the next Art Monk in pre-season camp.
Garcon appears to be in the same category as 2003 Gagliardi winner Blake Elliott. He had interest from about 3 teams, but went undrafted. Signed as a Free Agent with the Vikings, broke his leg in Training Camp and was later cut. It's a tough road for D III guys, as all here realize. The Free Agent route is not all that bad. You may be able to choose from a couple teams who proffer bids for your services, you can choose which might be the best fit for you based on competition at your position, and needs of that team that you might fill. Good luck to him, it's an uphill climb, but if he's got what it takes, he can make it.
The thing about Garcon is that he's got the size (6-1, 205-ish) and speed (4.46) to compare with the other receivers in camp who get drafted or whatever, so he just needs to get in a camp and work his butt off to make an impression.
I like those chances better than a true "long shot."
Savage, BTW, Sewanee grad. Nice to see my man giving D3 some love.
Garcon's numbers are common for a legitimate NFL WR rookie prospect. Consequently if he and a DIA WR rookie prospect who has approximately the same numbers as Garcon's have nearly equivalent performance, then the DIA rookie prospect gets the last spot on the roster over Garcon - and in the ordinary NFL camp squad there will be at least one or two DIA rookie prospects with such numbers and also acceptable performance by NFL standards. So if Garcon is going to make a roster, Garcon will have to perform significantly better than acceptably or be lucky or both.
Frank - I think that's true if the person competing with Garcon is drafted. If they're both free agents, then I don't think that would matter.
Rule of thumb: DIA trumps DIII, other things being equal or almost equal.
I disagree, all things being equal, it's who gets the job done in the NFL if they're both free agents.
Frank,
my point exactly. Garcon is "common," or he compares to other prospects who will be in camp.
I usually defer to your knowledge of the scouting process, and I think you're right that being from D3 and the week-in, week-out level of competition is a knock on any D3 player in the eyes of a scout.
But I tend to agree with smedindy that once Garcon's in camp, what matters is what he does in that camp.
He'll definitely have to rise above to get noticed, but so will anyone else who is a 7th rounder or free agent.
I don't think any of us are breaking new ground if we're saying a D3 guy has to be outstanding to earn an NFL roster spot over a guy who played D1.
Time for another Jerheme Urban update :D
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/cardinals/articles/0224combinenb.html
[...]
Look for No. 3
Receiver Bryant Johnson likely will depart via free agency, leaving the team in need of a No. 3 receiver.
While not giving up hope on Johnson returning, coach Ken Whisenhunt knows he might have to look for Johnson's replacement.
"We do have guys who are with us now," he said, "whether it's Jerheme Urban, Ahmad Merritt, Jamaica Rector."
Urban is a restricted free agent, and the club will offer him a tender by the deadline at the end of the week. "He made progress with us, you don't want to lose that progress."
Urban worked his way to the #4 WR role last year. In the primarily 2-WR set the Cards use, a move to #3 would give Urban more chances to make plays. Rector spent most of last season on the practice squad, Merritt was on IR.
Apparently something changed Wiesenhut's mind, because according to ESPN:
"The Cardinals declined to tender offers to four restricted free agents: linebacker Darryl Blackstock, tight end Tim Euhus and receivers Jerehme Urban and Ahmad Merritt.
The team also extended offers to three exclusive rights free agents -- cornerback Michael Adams, tight end Troy Bienemann and wide receiver Jamaica Rector."
so my guess is that practice squader Rector will replace Urban next year. Pity.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3269418&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines
Saw this line on the Arizona Republic website, though:
QuoteThe Cardinals might have interest in bringing some, if not all, of them back, however.
Right you are, Smed! +1
http://www.azcardinals.com/news/detail.php?PRKey=2286
Defensive end Joe Tafoya and wide receiver Jerheme Urban signed two-year contracts Wednesday, while defensive end Bo Schobel signed a one-year deal. That comes on the heels of wide receiver Ahmad Merritt re-signing on a one-year contract Tuesday morning.
The same article re-iterates that Urban will be challenging for the #3 WR spot along with Merritt. I think this is the first time he's signed a multi-year contract.
I'm surprised there's not more talk about Justin Beaver's chances on this thread. He worked out in Madison with the some of the Badgers at Wisconsin's pro day on March 5th. His workout would have put him at the top of all running backs at the combine across all measures. Check out the following link from the MJS:
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=725075
Also, Pete Schmitt, UWW grad last year, just signed a two year deal with the Redskins. Following is the link to that news:
http://www.warhawkfootball.com/newswire.asp
Thoughts?
Have to agree with you Dallas. He is under the radar pretty much. But, looking at the numbers he posted, I wouldn't at all be surprised if he gets a good look. Don't forget about A.J. Raebel, too. He's been written up as a prospect on the rise.
Quote from: dallas on March 26, 2008, 11:11:51 PM
I'm surprised there's not more talk about Justin Beaver's chances on this thread. He worked out in Madison with the some of the Badgers at Wisconsin's pro day on March 5th. His workout would have put him at the top of all running backs at the combine across all measures. Check out the following link from the MJS:
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=725075
Also, Pete Schmitt, UWW grad last year, just signed a two year deal with the Redskins. Following is the link to that news:
http://www.warhawkfootball.com/newswire.asp
Thoughts?
Its probably a better sign too that the Patriots and Colts are looking at him and not the Raiders and Falcons........
South Florida Sun-Sentinel did a story on area players trying out for the Dolphins today, including Pierre Garcon. Since it came across our news feed I have the power to feature it a little more prominently at my day job, so I did. :)
http://www.verizon.net/newsroom/sports/nfl
(If by the time you read this message the story isn't the NFL lead anymore, go straight to the story by clicking here (http://www.verizon.net/newsroom/portals/newsroom.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=newsroom_portal_page_nfl_article&_article=924083).)
While trolling through collegiate rosters over the past weeks, trying to come up with my own nuggets for the NFL draft, I noticed that the NCAA doesn't post D-III rosters, only D-I and D-IAA (D-II).
Does anyone know why this is? Further, is there a quick way to look at the D-III rosters collectively, instead of going into each school's web-site?
Quote from: MilesMan on April 24, 2008, 03:39:16 AM
While trolling through collegiate rosters over the past weeks, trying to come up with my own nuggets for the NFL draft, I noticed that the NCAA doesn't post D-III rosters, only D-I and D-IAA (D-II).
Does anyone know why this is? Further, is there a quick way to look at the D-III rosters collectively, instead of going into each school's web-site?
I would check out the D3football.com All American team and the all region teams and that should give you a good idea who might be looked at.
Wow--two DIII guys in the sixth round today--Wheaton's Andrew Studebaker to Philly and Mt. Union's Pierre Garcon to Indianapolis.
If we can get Jerrell Freeman up in the last half of the 7th round, I'd say it will have been a stellar day!
Quote from: Josh Bowerman on April 27, 2008, 06:14:24 PM
Wow--two DIII guys in the sixth round today--Wheaton's Andrew Studebaker to Philly and Mt. Union's Pierre Garcon to Indianapolis.
If we can get Jerrell Freeman up in the last half of the 7th round, I'd say it will have been a stellar day!
Those are the two I thought had a chance at getting drafted. Definitely good to see.
I'm guessing Raebel is the free agent with the best chance to stick, but you never know really, could be someone like Solfkanics, etc.
Will be neat to see where Beaver, Freeman and the free agent gang land, so then we can really begin to speculate about their chances to stick.
For the really D3-interested, Owen Schmitt, who began his career at UW-River Falls before landing at West Virginia, went No. 163 to Seattle. Fifth round I think.
FWIW, re: Studebaker, the Eagles' current starting OLB is an undersized former sack-machine DE from I-AA Cal Poly. They've also been making a push all offseason to improve their special teams. And their draft was full of "high-motor" types.
So maybe some of those things bode well for his chances of making the team.
here's a link to Wesley's Bryan Robinson signing with Arizona
http://athletics.wesley.edu/index.cfm?fuseaction=news.viewHDetail&newsid=679
Cool, now we have confirmed Robinson to Arizona via FA deal (http://www.wboc.com/Global/story.asp?S=8235171&nav=MXEa) and Jerrell Freeman to the Titans (http://www.kwtx.com/sports/headlines/18320939.html).
Says Robinson will be DT in the NFL. Interesting.
Raebel is discussing his options. Green Bay, Tampa Bay and possibly Cowboys or Dolphins in the mix, but Colts and Broncos out of the mix.
Here's Raebel mentioned in the Charlotte Observer as an LB sleeper (http://www.charlotte.com/panthers/story/591242.html) :)
I wonder if Derek Blanchard is getting a sniff anywhere. No love on a Google Search.
The list of guys Pat has on the front page currently all bear watching, and there'll probably be a few we didn't have out there either that get a camp invite.
Quote from: MilesMan on April 24, 2008, 03:39:16 AM
While trolling through collegiate rosters over the past weeks, trying to come up with my own nuggets for the NFL draft, I noticed that the NCAA doesn't post D-III rosters, only D-I and D-IAA (D-II).
Does anyone know why this is? Further, is there a quick way to look at the D-III rosters collectively, instead of going into each school's web-site?
Welcome aboard, MilesMan.
Good suggestions to your questions are above.
Quote from: K-Mack on April 27, 2008, 10:42:09 PM
The list of guys Pat has on the front page currently all bear watching, and there'll probably be a few we didn't have out there either that get a camp invite.
Yep, and there almost always are -- often they're offensive linemen with NFL size, occasionally a defensive tackle sneaks up on us that someone wants to look at as an end.
Quote from: K-Mack on April 27, 2008, 07:16:43 PM
Those are the two I thought had a chance at getting drafted. Definitely good to see.
I'm guessing Raebel is the free agent with the best chance to stick, but you never know really, could be someone like Solfkanics, etc.
Will be neat to see where Beaver, Freeman and the free agent gang land, so then we can really begin to speculate about their chances to stick.
For the really D3-interested, Owen Schmitt, who began his career at UW-River Falls before landing at West Virginia, went No. 163 to Seattle. Fifth round I think.
FWIW, re: Studebaker, the Eagles' current starting OLB is an undersized former sack-machine DE from I-AA Cal Poly. They've also been making a push all offseason to improve their special teams. And their draft was full of "high-motor" types.
So maybe some of those things bode well for his chances of making the team.
If Studebaker can perform well enough on special teams to make the team, then he has a better chance of adding 15-25lbs and moving to his natural position at DE.
BTW: To show Studebaker's athletic ability, I believe his short shuttle time was better than all WR's that were drafted and that was at 6' 4" 255lbs.
My understanding is that Horace Gant landed with the Redskins. No word if QB coach Chris Meidt, who coached Gant at St. Olaf, had anything to do with that, but it's a logical assumption.
Beaver to the Packers.
Heard Bridgewater's Brandon Copeland signed, but don't see it in print anywhere.
Then again, I haven't been monitoring the conference sub-boards on this here site, so perhaps the answers are already in print.
Pete Metzelaars, Wabash College 1982, was drafted in the third round by Seattle, as a big tight end. 6'7", 250 lb. He played for 16 years in the NFL with Seattle, Buffalo, Carolina and Detroit. His 212 games are the record for a tight end (169 consecutive). Pete is now an assistant coach with the Indianapolis Colts, offensive quality control.
One hopes that his example will be of assistance to Pierre Garcon in outgrowing the petulance (brashness?) on which many posters, not just from UWW, have commented.
Interestingly enough, Pete's greatest contribution was on the basketball court, where he led Wabash to the 1982 d3 championship, with 45 points and 13 rebounds in the final game. He was d3 player of the year and his career shooting pct of .724 still is the NCAA record.
It's good to see players like Pierre and Andy "make the cut". However I don't think many d3 prospects could match Pete's 16 years.
From the ODAC board's trustiest poster:
Quote from: Matt Barnhart (kid) on April 27, 2008, 10:26:17 PMCongrats to Bridgewater's Brandon Copeland for signing an undrafted free agent contract with the Cleveland Browns!!!
Quote from: wab64 on April 28, 2008, 10:40:00 PM
Pete Metzelaars, Wabash College 1982, was drafted in the third round by Seattle, as a big tight end. 6'7", 250 lb. He played for 16 years in the NFL with Seattle, Buffalo, Carolina and Detroit. His 212 games are the record for a tight end (169 consecutive). Pete is now an assistant coach with the Indianapolis Colts, offensive quality control.
...
He never won a Super Bowl in four tries.
The more important question on these boards is, did he won the Monon Bell? ;)
Ralph,
Per the Wabash website (didn't double-check what DePauw had to say!), it appears he went only 2-1-1. Something tells me it may have been far worse if he had not been on the team! ;) d3 rarely sees the likes of him.
I don't know the Monon Bell protocol back in the day when ties were possible. The tie came after a Wabash win, so I'd guess they maintained possession 3 of his four years, but perhaps only two (perhaps there was a vault midway where the Bell was stashed after ties? ;)).
ProFootballTalk.com is publishing the teams' list of free agents as they get time, but all I've seen are confirmations of stuff we already know, and Division II guys names I recognized from having previewed that division a couple times (being known as a "small-school football" guy)
It looks like:
Studebaker-Drafted by Eagles
Garcon-Drafted by Colts
Freeman-Titans
Robinson-Cardinals
Beaver-Packers
Copeland-Browns
Gant-Redskins
I saw a (star-trib?) list of 16 FA Vikings that didn't include Raebel, but did include Illinois' J. Leman and Maryland's Erin Henderson at LB. But we also have reason to believe AJ is going to the Vikings, so I guess we can add him to the list.
That's eight, which is pretty good in a year when NFL rosters are limited at 80 with NFL Europe roster exemptions no longer in play. There are apparently quite a few fewer spots available for free-agents post-draft. Some teams are bringing in as few as five or seven undrafted guys. (assume those teams had lots of picks)
Found a link to a reporter's blog at a local Chicago area newspaper which sums up Raebel's situation.
http://www.nwherald.com/blogs/oncampus/index.php
Quote from: K-Mack on April 28, 2008, 10:30:25 PM
My understanding is that Horace Gant landed with the Redskins. No word if QB coach Chris Meidt, who coached Gant at St. Olaf, had anything to do with that, but it's a logical assumption.
Beaver to the Packers.
Heard Bridgewater's Brandon Copeland signed, but don't see it in print anywhere.
Then again, I haven't been monitoring the conference sub-boards on this here site, so perhaps the answers are already in print.
Or the front page.
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on April 28, 2008, 11:14:14 PM
Ralph,
Per the Wabash website (didn't double-check what DePauw had to say!), it appears he went only 2-1-1. Something tells me it may have been far worse if he had not been on the team! ;) d3 rarely sees the likes of him.
I don't know the Monon Bell protocol back in the day when ties were possible. The tie came after a Wabash win, so I'd guess they maintained possession 3 of his four years, but perhaps only two (perhaps there was a vault midway where the Bell was stashed after ties? ;)).
Mr ypsi---
The rule was-in case of a tie, the Bell stayed where it was. During Metzelaars' career, the tie, in 1980 left Wabash at 8-0-1 and ran them out of a playoff spot; DePauw's win in 1981 cost another playoff berth, with an 8-1 record; in Pete's final year Wabash won 31-6 to finish at 10-0. Guess what- no playoffs, even though the Little Giants were ranked #6. I can't recall whether the dance was 8 teams or 16 in 1982, but it remains a dirty Irish trick in the minds of men. WAB64
Quote from: wab64 on April 29, 2008, 10:19:57 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on April 28, 2008, 11:14:14 PM
Ralph,
Per the Wabash website (didn't double-check what DePauw had to say!), it appears he went only 2-1-1. Something tells me it may have been far worse if he had not been on the team! ;) d3 rarely sees the likes of him.
I don't know the Monon Bell protocol back in the day when ties were possible. The tie came after a Wabash win, so I'd guess they maintained possession 3 of his four years, but perhaps only two (perhaps there was a vault midway where the Bell was stashed after ties? ;)).
Mr ypsi---
The rule was-in case of a tie, the Bell stayed where it was. During Metzelaars' career, the tie, in 1980 left Wabash at 8-0-1 and ran them out of a playoff spot; DePauw's win in 1981 cost another playoff berth, with an 8-1 record; in Pete's final year Wabash won 31-6 to finish at 10-0. Guess what- no playoffs, even though the Little Giants were ranked #6. I can't recall whether the dance was 8 teams or 16 in 1982, but it remains a dirty Irish trick in the minds of men. WAB64
Thanks Wab64.
Has Metzelaars ever written an "nostalgia piece" about the Bell? A Pro player's perspective on the Bell, his having played in the Super Bowl might be entertaining reading.
There is a story about a NFL player being interviewed before the Super Bowl being asked if this was the biggest game that he had ever played.
The guy basically said, "Not really. The biggest game I ever played was for the State Championship my senior year in high school. Man, me and my friends had been working for that game since junior high school. It was big!" :)
From a distance, the Bell seems to take on that significance.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 29, 2008, 09:36:50 AM
Quote from: K-Mack on April 28, 2008, 10:30:25 PM
My understanding is that Horace Gant landed with the Redskins. No word if QB coach Chris Meidt, who coached Gant at St. Olaf, had anything to do with that, but it's a logical assumption.
Beaver to the Packers.
Heard Bridgewater's Brandon Copeland signed, but don't see it in print anywhere.
Then again, I haven't been monitoring the conference sub-boards on this here site, so perhaps the answers are already in print.
Or the front page.
For the record, smart guy, none of that was out front when I posted that, just the Sunday note about Studebaker and Garcon getting drafted.
Trust me, I looked.
Actually, none of the FA signings are mentioned out there NOW. I did see the new Wheaton photo though. :)
Hmm. That's weird. When I scrolled down after first signing on just now, the Garcon story was the second item. But I remembered our conversation from the other day, so I hit refresh.
Sure enough, the second item had the updates the second time.
We should probably get that fixed, unless it's something to do with my work cache/firewall/whatever. (On a PC, FWIW) Not everybody has had the pleasure of speaking directly to you to be reminded to refresh.
Anyone else out there have similar issues with front-page updates? I assume I'm not alone.
Quote from: footballfan413 on April 29, 2008, 07:59:14 AM
Found a link to a reporter's blog at a local Chicago area newspaper which sums up Raebel's situation.
http://www.nwherald.com/blogs/oncampus/index.php
Good for A.J.
The post-draft process can be a nightmare.
Counting the front-page updates ( :) ), the list looks like:
Studebaker-Drafted by Eagles
Garcon-Drafted by Colts
Freeman-Titans
Robinson-Cardinals
Raebel-Vikings
Beaver-Packers
Allen-Packers
Copeland-Browns
Trusnik-Browns
Schubert-Browns
Gant-Redskins
Should we try to differentiate who is a tryout and who is on contract? Or just be happy with that list as-is?
Quote from: K-Mack on April 29, 2008, 08:35:45 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 29, 2008, 09:36:50 AM
Quote from: K-Mack on April 28, 2008, 10:30:25 PM
My understanding is that Horace Gant landed with the Redskins. No word if QB coach Chris Meidt, who coached Gant at St. Olaf, had anything to do with that, but it's a logical assumption.
Beaver to the Packers.
Heard Bridgewater's Brandon Copeland signed, but don't see it in print anywhere.
Then again, I haven't been monitoring the conference sub-boards on this here site, so perhaps the answers are already in print.
Or the front page.
For the record, smart guy, none of that was out front when I posted that, just the Sunday note about Studebaker and Garcon getting drafted.
Trust me, I looked.
Yeah, refresh is a great thing. Most browsers have them, even your fancy-pants Safari. :)
Quote from: K-Mack on April 29, 2008, 08:41:39 PM
Actually, none of the FA signings are mentioned out there NOW. I did see the new Wheaton photo though. :)
Hmm. That's weird. When I scrolled down after first signing on just now, the Garcon story was the second item. But I remembered our conversation from the other day, so I hit refresh.
Sure enough, the second item had the updates the second time.
We should probably get that fixed, unless it's something to do with my work cache/firewall/whatever. (On a PC, FWIW) Not everybody has had the pleasure of speaking directly to you to be reminded to refresh.
Anyone else out there have similar issues with front-page updates? I assume I'm not alone.
K-Mack,
I was seeing the exact same issue. Once I refreshed the page, everything was cool. I've noticed this for about a week or so.
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 29, 2008, 06:22:19 PM
Quote from: wab64 on April 29, 2008, 10:19:57 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on April 28, 2008, 11:14:14 PM
Ralph,
Per the Wabash website (didn't double-check what DePauw had to say!), it appears he went only 2-1-1. Something tells me it may have been far worse if he had not been on the team! ;) d3 rarely sees the likes of him.
I don't know the Monon Bell protocol back in the day when ties were possible. The tie came after a Wabash win, so I'd guess they maintained possession 3 of his four years, but perhaps only two (perhaps there was a vault midway where the Bell was stashed after ties? ;)).
Mr ypsi---
The rule was-in case of a tie, the Bell stayed where it was. During Metzelaars' career, the tie, in 1980 left Wabash at 8-0-1 and ran them out of a playoff spot; DePauw's win in 1981 cost another playoff berth, with an 8-1 record; in Pete's final year Wabash won 31-6 to finish at 10-0. Guess what- no playoffs, even though the Little Giants were ranked #6. I can't recall whether the dance was 8 teams or 16 in 1982, but it remains a dirty Irish trick in the minds of men. WAB64
Thanks Wab64.
Has Metzelaars ever written an "nostalgia piece" about the Bell? A Pro player's perspective on the Bell, his having played in the Super Bowl might be entertaining reading.
There is a story about a NFL player being interviewed before the Super Bowl being asked if this was the biggest game that he had ever played.
The guy basically said, "Not really. The biggest game I ever played was for the State Championship my senior year in high school. Man, me and my friends had been working for that game since junior high school. It was big!" :)
From a distance, the Bell seems to take on that significance.
I can't think of that NFL player's name off hand, but he was an NFL Hall of Fame cornerback and the high school was Plano HS in Texas. ;)
Quote from: Mugsy on April 29, 2008, 10:13:48 PM
Quote from: K-Mack on April 29, 2008, 08:41:39 PM
Actually, none of the FA signings are mentioned out there NOW. I did see the new Wheaton photo though. :)
Hmm. That's weird. When I scrolled down after first signing on just now, the Garcon story was the second item. But I remembered our conversation from the other day, so I hit refresh.
Sure enough, the second item had the updates the second time.
We should probably get that fixed, unless it's something to do with my work cache/firewall/whatever. (On a PC, FWIW) Not everybody has had the pleasure of speaking directly to you to be reminded to refresh.
Anyone else out there have similar issues with front-page updates? I assume I'm not alone.
K-Mack,
I was seeing the exact same issue. Once I refreshed the page, everything was cool. I've noticed this for about a week or so.
I did also but when I refreshed, I still saw the Augie story and that didn't change until some time late yesterday afternoon, well after posters had been talking about the draft news on the front page all day. All good now though.
Quote from: roocru on April 30, 2008, 12:46:17 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 29, 2008, 06:22:19 PM
Quote from: wab64 on April 29, 2008, 10:19:57 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on April 28, 2008, 11:14:14 PM
Ralph,
Per the Wabash website (didn't double-check what DePauw had to say!), it appears he went only 2-1-1. Something tells me it may have been far worse if he had not been on the team! ;) d3 rarely sees the likes of him.
I don't know the Monon Bell protocol back in the day when ties were possible. The tie came after a Wabash win, so I'd guess they maintained possession 3 of his four years, but perhaps only two (perhaps there was a vault midway where the Bell was stashed after ties? ;)).
Mr ypsi---
The rule was-in case of a tie, the Bell stayed where it was. During Metzelaars' career, the tie, in 1980 left Wabash at 8-0-1 and ran them out of a playoff spot; DePauw's win in 1981 cost another playoff berth, with an 8-1 record; in Pete's final year Wabash won 31-6 to finish at 10-0. Guess what- no playoffs, even though the Little Giants were ranked #6. I can't recall whether the dance was 8 teams or 16 in 1982, but it remains a dirty Irish trick in the minds of men. WAB64
Thanks Wab64.
Has Metzelaars ever written an "nostalgia piece" about the Bell? A Pro player's perspective on the Bell, his having played in the Super Bowl might be entertaining reading.
There is a story about a NFL player being interviewed before the Super Bowl being asked if this was the biggest game that he had ever played.
The guy basically said, "Not really. The biggest game I ever played was for the State Championship my senior year in high school. Man, me and my friends had been working for that game since junior high school. It was big!" :)
From a distance, the Bell seems to take on that significance.
I can't think of that NFL player's name off hand, but he was an NFL Hall of Fame cornerback and the high school was Plano HS in Texas. ;)
I think that it was Pat Thomas, of the 1971 Plano 4A State Championship team. He later played for the Texas Aggies and the Los Angeles Rams. I believe that he said that before the January 1980 Super Bowl (XIV) game;)
Quote from: K-Mack on April 29, 2008, 08:41:39 PM
Actually, none of the FA signings are mentioned out there NOW. I did see the new Wheaton photo though. :)
Hmm. That's weird. When I scrolled down after first signing on just now, the Garcon story was the second item. But I remembered our conversation from the other day, so I hit refresh.
Sure enough, the second item had the updates the second time.
We should probably get that fixed, unless it's something to do with my work cache/firewall/whatever. (On a PC, FWIW) Not everybody has had the pleasure of speaking directly to you to be reminded to refresh.
Anyone else out there have similar issues with front-page updates? I assume I'm not alone.
K-Mack
Had been seeing the same front page for over a week. Was scratching my head as to why the headlines on the boards was refering to the draft but no story. I too, refreshed this morning after reading these last few post and got the new look. Never had to do this before.....Is something broken?
Not that I know of, but refreshing is always a decent idea if you think you're missing something.
Might've lulled some browsers to sleep when we didn't have anything new on the front for a while.
Must be deja vu all over again.
Carroll WR Tyler Vogds invited to Vikings camp, where they will try him out as a long snapper.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 29, 2008, 09:09:13 PM
Quote from: K-Mack on April 29, 2008, 08:35:45 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 29, 2008, 09:36:50 AM
Quote from: K-Mack on April 28, 2008, 10:30:25 PM
My understanding is that Horace Gant landed with the Redskins. No word if QB coach Chris Meidt, who coached Gant at St. Olaf, had anything to do with that, but it's a logical assumption.
Beaver to the Packers.
Heard Bridgewater's Brandon Copeland signed, but don't see it in print anywhere.
Then again, I haven't been monitoring the conference sub-boards on this here site, so perhaps the answers are already in print.
Or the front page.
For the record, smart guy, none of that was out front when I posted that, just the Sunday note about Studebaker and Garcon getting drafted.
Trust me, I looked.
Yeah, refresh is a great thing. Most browsers have them, even your fancy-pants Safari. :)
Are you slow?
Not only did I post that I was using a PC at work, but I don't even use Safari at home, I use Firefox, and we have discussed this.
Way to try and look cool and snarky on the message board though.
Quote from: kickerdad on April 30, 2008, 10:18:49 AM
Quote from: K-Mack on April 29, 2008, 08:41:39 PM
Actually, none of the FA signings are mentioned out there NOW. I did see the new Wheaton photo though. :)
Hmm. That's weird. When I scrolled down after first signing on just now, the Garcon story was the second item. But I remembered our conversation from the other day, so I hit refresh.
Sure enough, the second item had the updates the second time.
We should probably get that fixed, unless it's something to do with my work cache/firewall/whatever. (On a PC, FWIW) Not everybody has had the pleasure of speaking directly to you to be reminded to refresh.
Anyone else out there have similar issues with front-page updates? I assume I'm not alone.
K-Mack
Had been seeing the same front page for over a week. Was scratching my head as to why the headlines on the boards was refering to the draft but no story. I too, refreshed this morning after reading these last few post and got the new look. Never had to do this before.....Is something broken?
Well that makes at least four of us, perhaps using different providers and browsers ... if nothing else, it's nice to know that it's not something we're not doing on our end. I guess the internet can be funky at times.
Quote from: K-Mack on April 30, 2008, 02:14:32 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on April 30, 2008, 10:18:49 AM
Quote from: K-Mack on April 29, 2008, 08:41:39 PM
Actually, none of the FA signings are mentioned out there NOW. I did see the new Wheaton photo though. :)
Hmm. That's weird. When I scrolled down after first signing on just now, the Garcon story was the second item. But I remembered our conversation from the other day, so I hit refresh.
Sure enough, the second item had the updates the second time.
We should probably get that fixed, unless it's something to do with my work cache/firewall/whatever. (On a PC, FWIW) Not everybody has had the pleasure of speaking directly to you to be reminded to refresh.
Anyone else out there have similar issues with front-page updates? I assume I'm not alone.
K-Mack
Had been seeing the same front page for over a week. Was scratching my head as to why the headlines on the boards was refering to the draft but no story. I too, refreshed this morning after reading these last few post and got the new look. Never had to do this before.....Is something broken?
Well that makes at least four of us, perhaps using different providers and browsers ... if nothing else, it's nice to know that it's not something we're not doing on our end. I guess the internet can be funky at times.
Your browser options may be set up to store pages and if you don't have it updating the page it will used the old stored page until you refresh. I would check your browser options.
Quote from: K-Mack on April 30, 2008, 02:10:10 PM
Are you slow?
No. I was joking. And you didn't say that until a subsequent post, correct?
And I
really dislike your tendency to bring conversations that you and I should have behind the scenes out here into the public eye. Please stop. If you have a problem with how the site works, come to me, not the world. Thanks.
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 30, 2008, 08:37:29 AM
Quote from: roocru on April 30, 2008, 12:46:17 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 29, 2008, 06:22:19 PM
Quote from: wab64 on April 29, 2008, 10:19:57 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on April 28, 2008, 11:14:14 PM
Ralph,
Per the Wabash website (didn't double-check what DePauw had to say!), it appears he went only 2-1-1. Something tells me it may have been far worse if he had not been on the team! ;) d3 rarely sees the likes of him.
I don't know the Monon Bell protocol back in the day when ties were possible. The tie came after a Wabash win, so I'd guess they maintained possession 3 of his four years, but perhaps only two (perhaps there was a vault midway where the Bell was stashed after ties? ;)).
Mr ypsi---
The rule was-in case of a tie, the Bell stayed where it was. During Metzelaars' career, the tie, in 1980 left Wabash at 8-0-1 and ran them out of a playoff spot; DePauw's win in 1981 cost another playoff berth, with an 8-1 record; in Pete's final year Wabash won 31-6 to finish at 10-0. Guess what- no playoffs, even though the Little Giants were ranked #6. I can't recall whether the dance was 8 teams or 16 in 1982, but it remains a dirty Irish trick in the minds of men. WAB64
Thanks Wab64.
Has Metzelaars ever written an "nostalgia piece" about the Bell? A Pro player's perspective on the Bell, his having played in the Super Bowl might be entertaining reading.
There is a story about a NFL player being interviewed before the Super Bowl being asked if this was the biggest game that he had ever played.
The guy basically said, "Not really. The biggest game I ever played was for the State Championship my senior year in high school. Man, me and my friends had been working for that game since junior high school. It was big!" :)
From a distance, the Bell seems to take on that significance.
I can't think of that NFL player's name off hand, but he was an NFL Hall of Fame cornerback and the high school was Plano HS in Texas. ;)
I think that it was Pat Thomas, of the 1971 Plano 4A State Championship team. He later played for the Texas Aggies and the Los Angeles Rams. I believe that he said that before the January 1980 Super Bowl (XIV) game;)
Thanks Ralph. That's the guy!!
Rob Rodriguez of CNU, senior in 2006, got a last-minute call to try out for the Kansas City Chiefs (http://www.verizon.net/newsroom/portals/newsroom.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=newsroom_portal_page_nfl_article&_article=960463).
Stanley surprises Rams ...
(http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/rams/story/93F485C5E98F06D58625743D0015C5BA?OpenDocument)
Stanley and the Rams have a business relationship - big business. First of all, the two of them should jointly be concerned about what the contract between them provides about his competing in intercollegiate track? All this other feel good stuff should be regarded by them as secondary.
from the Miami Dolphins website.
TE MATTHEW MULLIGAN – Played two seasons at Maine (2006-07) after transferring from Husson College in Bangor, Maine, where he played in 2004 ... In two seasons with the Black Bears, played in 21 games with 18 starts and registered 23 receptions for 268 yards and two touchdowns ... As a senior, started all 11 contests and caught 13 passes for 157 yards and a pair of scores ... Also played basketball at Husson ... Majored in business ... Attended Penobscot Valley High School in West Enfield, Maine.
At least he started out in D3.
Here is an article from SI.Com (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/ross_tucker/04/30/undrafted.free.agents/index.html) about making it as an undrafted free agent. It was written by Ross Tucker who made the Redskins as an undrafted free agent.
I've seen a couple of stories that say Jerheme Urban has not been participating in AZ minicamp due to a foot injury. Not good news if true as he has injured his foot several times during his NFL career and the last serious injury forced the Seahawks to cut him. Hope it's not the same foot he's broken in the past.
Former UW-Whitewater o-lineman Brady Ramseier signed with Calgary of the CFL (http://www.stampeders.com/news_blogs/news/) and joins the Stampeders in training camp. Day 9 has just finished. Calgary recently lost two O-linemen (one a returning player) to injury indefinately.
Here is a great article on Wesley's Bryan Robinson of the Arizona Cardinals. I sure hope he can stick with it!! Go Bryan!!
http://www.azcardinals.com/news/detail.php?PRKey=2389
-Ski
Ohio Northern alum Jamal Robertson was traded from the Saskatchewan Roughriders to the Toronto Argonauts last week after a season-ending injury the Argos incumbent starter. I don't know all the particulars but it appears he has a great chance of making the regular season roster they way things are shaping up.
Nice story (http://www.victoriaadvocate.com/894/story/265623.html) yesterday on Trinity [TX] ex Jerheme Urban in his hometown newspaper, the Victoria Advocate. The basic focus is a free camp for high school WRs/QBs that he's organized.
No word, tho, on the foot injury he continues to nurse and which has kept him out of the voluntary mini-camps this spring. With Anquan Boldin not present, it could have been a real chance for him to solidify his grasp on the #3 WR role.
Jamal Robertson not only made the final roster for the Argonauts, he scored two TD's in his CFL debut and led Toronto to a 23-16 season-opening victory.
A couple pictures of Arizona Cardinal rookies getting a workout on a hillside. Bryan Robinson's working it up. Check out the photos here:
http://www.azcardinals.com/plogger/index.php?level=album&id=113
-Ski
Quote from the OAC Board:
Quote from: hscoach on July 30, 2008, 07:52:57 AM
Garcon article in Canton Rep:
http://www.cantonrep.com/index.php?ID=423279&r=0&Category=17&subCategoryID=0
Pierre Garcon had a team-high 4 catches for (a not team-high) 33 yards in the Colts' first preseason game, the HOF game loss to the Redskins.
More importantly, he ran with the first team offense (which was more than likely the 2/3s, since he was catching passes from Quinn Gray, not Peyton Manning or Jim Sorgi, and Marvin Harrison didn't play and Reggie Wayne, if he did, didn't have any catches).
Garcon also returned one punt and one kick.
Sounds at least like he's going to get an opportunity to impress.
From the Canton Rep:
http://www.cantonrep.com/index.php?Category=17&ID=424164&r=12&subCategoryID=
Colts Head Coach Tony Dungy said Garcon is performing well in workouts and earned his spot on the field....."He's done it in practice," Dungy said. "We are seeing good things. He is showing he belongs."........"He's shown us that he can do some of those things (in practice)," Dungy said. "That he showed them again here is a good sign."
Good to hear Dungy is happy with Garcon so far.
Is there a generated list of all the current NFL/CFL/AFL players from DIII schools?
The Colts have always struggled to find a good return man / extra wide out combo. Garcon may be the one as a 4th wideout / returner.
Pete Schmitt, former UWW TE has been re-signed by the Redskins (http://www.redskins.com/team/depthchart.jsp) after most recently being released July 18, 2 days prior to the start of training camp. This marks the third time he has been signed by the 'skins since May of last year.
Jerheme Urban, Trinity 2002-03 grad will see plenty of PT in tonites preseason opener for his AZ Cardinals against the NO Saints. Urban signed a new 2 year contract this spring and is listed second on the Cards depth chart at WR behind Larry Fitzgerald and Anquon Bouldin. Last year he was one of Kurt Warner's favorite receivers when Matt Leinart was replaced by Warner due to injuries. Urban had his best pro year statistically last year for the Cards. I believe that the 8-7 game will be covered nationally. Tune in to see Jerheme continue to represent DIII football well!
Bouldin is trying to shake off an injury and will see limited time, if any - so more time for the other WRs trying to show they belong. This story (http://www.azcardinals.com/news/detail.php?PRKey=2460) from AZcardinals.com details the battle for the #3 WR position. From this and other stories, Urban's primary competition seems to be third-round draft choice Early Doucet (out with a hamstring this week) and Steve Breaston. Urban missed minicamp with a foot injury.
UPDATE: According to Kent Somers' blog (http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/KentSomers/29548), Breaston will be getting #1 reps alongside Fitzgerald. Urban's backing up Fitz with Jamaica Rector the other #2 WR.
You should also be able to see, Wesley's Bryan Robinson in the Cards/Saints game tonight also.
Arizona has two guys named Bryan Robinson that play on the d-line. Wesley's Bryan is wearing #71, I believe.
I also saw that Byron Westbrook (Salisbury, Eagles Brian lil bro) got some time for the Skins on Sunday night vs. the Colts.
I've been tracking the Eagles training camp on their website virtually every day. The depth chart has former Wheaton College DE Andrew Studebaker listed as 3rd string SAM LB, though he has been playing quite a bit of DE as well due to injuries to several Eagle DE's.
Friday night the Eagles play the Steelers in Pittsburgh for their 1st preseason game.
On how Andy Studebaker (and Joe Mays) is playing so far and how much time he will see on Friday, D-Coordinator Jim Johnson said:
QuoteI think it's still a work in progress. It's tough. I realize that of all the positions, the linebackers have the hardest thing. I recognize that. [linebackers] probably make more mistakes than anybody else; especially young guys. When they get in the game, they're going to play a lot. We're probably going to cut down just to see how they play. It's a learning process for them, and I understand that. I'm anxious to see both of those guys play and they are going to play quite a bit.
I would be very surprised if the Birds don't do with Andy what they did with Garcon and Jeremy Bloom; i.e. take whatever bumps and bruises he sustains in camp, and stash him on i.r. for a year so he can learn the system and try to make an impact next season. Either that or do it the legal way on the practice squad.
I know they don't give up on draft picks usually after one camp, they'll probably give him a year to show something since he and several of their other picks this year were projects (one D1 corner with a broken knee, and a couple other undersize/small-school guys).
FWIW. They've been a pretty good home for non-major school players recently, Westbrook being chief among them, but also an LB from I-AA cal poly, a starting G from D2 Saginaw, the picks this year from Wheaton, McNeese State and North Dakota, etc. I'm sure every team has a few though.
Quote from: K-Mack on August 08, 2008, 08:44:53 AM
I would be very surprised if the Birds don't do with Andy what they did with Garcon and Jeremy Bloom; i.e. take whatever bumps and bruises he sustains in camp, and stash him on i.r. for a year so he can learn the system and try to make an impact next season. Either that or do it the legal way on the practice squad.
I know they don't give up on draft picks usually after one camp, they'll probably give him a year to show something since he and several of their other picks this year were projects (one D1 corner with a broken knee, and a couple other undersize/small-school guys).
FWIW. They've been a pretty good home for non-major school players recently, Westbrook being chief among them, but also an LB from I-AA cal poly, a starting G from D2 Saginaw, the picks this year from Wheaton, McNeese State and North Dakota, etc. I'm sure every team has a few though.
I'd say there is a high probability that Studebaker will end up on "IR" or the practice squad this year. The move from D3 DE in college to OLB in the NFL is a huge learning curve. They saw enough in his athletic ability and character to draft him, so they won't give up on him after one year.
As you mentioned regarding the Eagles taking chances on small college players, Studebaker is not the only former DE from a smaller college to be transitioned to LB on the Eagles. Starting OLB Chris Gocong was a DE at Cal-State Poly. This is his 3rd year. Last year he started and began making strides, this year they are expecting a lot out of him. Size and speed wise, Studebaker is very close to Gocong (or at least he will be in another year). Gocong is 6'2" 263, Studebaker is 6'3" 251.
Also rookie LB Joe Mays is listed as 2nd string on the depth charts and he played last year at North Dakota State. I believe he was drafted just ahead of Studebaker in the 6th round as well.
One other tendancy I'm gleeming from the Eagles training camp website is that D-Coordinator Jim Johnson likes to move his OLB's with DE background to DE in nickel packages. Gocong plays a lot of DE as well.
So that all to say... there is a blueprint for what the Eagles may be thinking about with Studebaker, provided he can show them he can do it.
gleeming? gleaning.
Quote from: retagent on August 08, 2008, 04:20:20 PM
gleeming? gleaning.
Gimme a break... I have a 4 day old daughter and sleep is scarce at this point. Nothing to add but nit-pickin' on grammar... :-\
A bullet on Studebaker from the Eagles website:
QuoteAndy Studebaker showed up to play. He was a demon on defense, all over the field on the blitz and against the run. I don't know if he can cover anybody yet, but Studebaker sure is a great athlete and stirs things up.
This encompasses the challenge facing Studebaker. Transitioning from DE to OLB, specifically learning to cover TE's or RB's, or gain another 20lbs without losing his speed and quickness and switch back to DE.
To be fair, the Eagles website guy is a notoriously huge homer. Can't think of a time when he really disagreed with the team's thinking or disliked a guy in green.
In other words, everything coming out of camp on Studebaker will probably be glowing if you get it from him. Got a lot of love for the dude's enthusiasm, but credibility ...
Quote from: K-Mack on August 11, 2008, 11:42:01 PM
To be fair, the Eagles website guy is a notoriously huge homer. Can't think of a time when he really disagreed with the team's thinking or disliked a guy in green.
In other words, everything coming out of camp on Studebaker will probably be glowing if you get it from him. Got a lot of love for the dude's enthusiasm, but credibility ...
I have no way of knowing that, though he doesn't glow over every player.
That said... while I'm hoping Studebaker makes the team, I just feel the transition to OLB is too big to stick for the 08' season. Realistically I see him on the practice squad to develop for another year and then re-evaluate next year after he has had more time to learn (and maybe gain 10-15lbs towards DE?).
Another measuring stick might be ONU alum Jason Trusnik who went from pass rushing DE in college to OLB with the Jets last season. Because of his big motor, he made the team's practice squad and found himself on the active roster as a ST'er by 2/3 of the way through the season. I don't think that would be a bad route at all for Studebaker to take.
Just my take on both Studebaker and Garcon. Based on what I saw in the games where they got extended playing time, I thought Studebaker fared pretty well. A couple tackles and a pass knockdown when he lined up in a three point stance as a DE, in about a quarter of PT. Garcon had four catches, and, as far as I could tell, no drops. Both, I thought, looked like they belonged on the field.
It looks like the Eagles are giving Studebaker every chance to make the team. He got extended playing time against Carolina on "D", and was on kickoff and punt Special Teams. He looked to me to get a few tackles, or assists on tackles, was around the ball a lot more than in the Steeler game, and ripped out the ball that the Eagles recovered, and got the go-ahead score. My guess is that if he doesn't make the Eagles, another team will pick him up. I never saw him play in college, and was not all that aware of him, but I've been impressed
Quote from: retagent on August 15, 2008, 11:48:18 AM
It looks like the Eagles are giving Studebaker every chance to make the team. He got extended playing time against Carolina on "D", and was on kickoff and punt Special Teams. He looked to me to get a few tackles, or assists on tackles, was around the ball a lot more than in the Steeler game, and ripped out the ball that the Eagles recovered, and got the go-ahead score. My guess is that if he doesn't make the Eagles, another team will pick him up. I never saw him play in college, and was not all that aware of him, but I've been impressed
This is why these guys go on the IR with stingers or what have you, rather than be on the practice squad, where any team can add them to their active roster at any time.
Sort've like the wink-wink farm roster ... I mean, what football player doesn't currently have some kind of injury. Brady's got that hurt shoulder that gets him on the injury report every week :)
Quote from: K-Mack on August 16, 2008, 01:40:16 AM
Quote from: retagent on August 15, 2008, 11:48:18 AM
It looks like the Eagles are giving Studebaker every chance to make the team. He got extended playing time against Carolina on "D", and was on kickoff and punt Special Teams. He looked to me to get a few tackles, or assists on tackles, was around the ball a lot more than in the Steeler game, and ripped out the ball that the Eagles recovered, and got the go-ahead score. My guess is that if he doesn't make the Eagles, another team will pick him up. I never saw him play in college, and was not all that aware of him, but I've been impressed
This is why these guys go on the IR with stingers or what have you, rather than be on the practice squad, where any team can add them to their active roster at any time.
Sort've like the wink-wink farm roster ... I mean, what football player doesn't currently have some kind of injury. Brady's got that hurt shoulder that gets him on the injury report every week :)
Some of you are toooo young to remember ;) but Dick Vermeil was accused of hiding players in hotels to get past some injuriy and waiver rules when he coached the Eagles
Looks like Bryan Robinson is hanging in there in at #3 on the Cardinals depth chart for DT's. Does anybody know how he is doing?
-Ski
Quote from: Teamski on August 17, 2008, 11:13:27 PM
Looks like Bryan Robinson is hanging in there in at #3 on the Cardinals depth chart for DT's. Does anybody know how he is doing?
-Ski
Ski
Last I heard he was in Dover after mini camp and he was doing ok. With the injuries the Cardinals have been suffering on the D line he may get a longer look. If he plays well enough in pre-season and they feel he has an up side he may get a taxi squad spot. The game I saw last week he played ok. Made a nice play from the back side and held his own.
I wish I could of seen the game.... :-\ Thanks for the update!
-Ski
Freeman from UMHB has been picked up by the Titans. He was released earlier, but the Titan's LB corps is pretty banged up. Hope he can stick.
Sweet!
Excellent! I finally got to see Bryan Robinson play on the re-broadcast of the game. It's neat to see him getting some playing time in. Slick!
-Ski
What's going on with Michael Allan at KC?
He's there, but he just doesn't seem be as there as last year.
Anybody know how's it look for him?
I'm pulling for him.
Another update on Andy Studebaker from the Eagles website:
QuoteLONGSHOT LOOKING GOOD
Andy Studebaker is a very interesting rookie. He's making the transition from Wheaton College to the NFL and from defensive end to linebacker. So far, so good. Studebaker has shown that he definitely has the athletic ability to play pro football. He's also making plays. He has five tackles, a forced fumble and a batted pass.
Before we get too excited, we have to understand that Studebaker is playing against third stringers. In 2006, Tank Daniels was the small-school linebacker who looked good in the preseason. Last year, Akeem Jordan had that role. Only Jordan made the initial 53-man roster and that was for a brief time before the Eagles claimed Pago Togafau off waivers. Jordan last year was ahead of where Studebaker is this year, based on what I've seen. In the 2007 preseason finale, Jordan played a great game. He flew all over the field and made a lot of tackles. We'll see if Studebaker has a game like that in him.
The Eagles will have to consider putting Studebaker on the roster. They can't count on him making it through waivers and getting to the practice squad. Studebaker has better size than either Daniels or Jordan. He is a natural pass rusher. Teams running the 3-4 defense could easily be interested in claiming Studebaker. Right now Rocky Boiman is slated to be the backup strongside linebacker. He better not relax with the way that Studebaker is playing right now. The kid from Wheaton College might just make the team.
UMHB's Jerrel Freeman survived the cuts from Titan's camp this morning and is now showing as 3rd on the depth chart at his position.
Mississippi College's Jake Allen is still in camp with the Green Bay Packers. He's currently third on the depth chart and is battling three other rookie receivers for the 6th WR spot. He will get pleny of opportunity tonight when the Packers play their final preseason game.
Mississippi College's Jake Allen caught two passes for 33 yards tonight for Green Bay including a 22 yard touchdown with no time remaining to pull the Packers within two points. The two point conversion was not successful and the Tennesse Titans won 23-21.
Against the Jets, Andy Studebaker again got significant playing time. Was on any number of Special Teams, and always seemed to be around the ball when in on defense. Probably got credit for a tackle or
1 1/2.
Trinity (TX) ex Jerheme Urban is battling hard for the #3 WR slot in Phoenix, with four catches for 94 yards in the first half against Denver. In the process he's actually making Matt Leinhart (10-14, 177 yds in first half) look good, no small feat. ;)
With final cuts looming, here are some D3 alums on NFL rosters.
Fred Jackson (Coe): 2nd on Buffalo Bills depth chart at RB
Nate Jackson (Menlo): 2nd on Denver Broncos depth chart at TE
Michael Allan (Whitworth): 4th on Kansas City Chiefs depth chart at TE
Pierre Garcon (Mount Union): 4th on Indianapolis Colts depth chart at one of two WR positions
Ryan Hoag (Gustavus Adolphus): WR on Jacksonville Jaguars - no depth chart posted
Matt Turk (UW-Whitewater): 1st on Houston Texans depth chart at P and H
Jerrell Freeman (Mary-Hardin Baylor): 3rd on Tennessee Titans depth chart at RLB
Jerheme Urban (Trinity - Texas): 2nd on Phoenix Cardinals depth chart at one of two WR positions
Todd Lowber (Ramapo): WR on Dallas Cowboys - not listed on depth chart
Andy Studebaker (Wheaton): 3rd on Philadelphia Eagles depth chart at SLB
Derek Stanley (UW-Whitewater): 3rd (with two other guys) on St. Louis Rams depth chart at WR2
Lowber is particularly interesting. He went to Ramapo, which doesn't have a football program. I don't have HBO but a bunch of blogs say the "Hard Knocks" documentary of Cowboys training camp has focused on his long shot to make the team. He survived one round of cuts earlier this week.
I'm sure I missed a couple since I have to step away, but feel free to add them or updates.
Freeman was released
The Redskins released Byron Westbrook (Salisbury) and Horace Gant (St. Olaf) today, and the Eagles released Studebaker.
If they clear waivers, Westbrook and Studebaker are very likely to resurface; Studebaker will make the practice squad if someone doesn't snap him up, Westbrook I'm not sure he's practice-squad eligible, I think he is, but the Redskins really like him.
Like all teams, there were some tough decisions to make, and not all of them were about who's the best football player; salary, draft status, preseason injuries, projected Game 1 rosters and protecting other guys more likely to get snapped up all factor in.
Jerheme Urban kept his roster spot and the Cardinals released rookie Lance Long instead (who also had a very good game last night). Jason Trusnik is still listed on the Jets PUP list (foot) but the Jets roster has not been cut down officially yet.
I'm happy for Urban since he's in my backyard and really has a shot to contribute as a third WR by committee with Steve Breaston and Early Doucet.
Quote from: Chris Brooks on August 28, 2008, 10:34:43 PM
Mississippi College's Jake Allen caught two passes for 33 yards tonight for Green Bay including a 22 yard touchdown with no time remaining to pull the Packers within two points. The two point conversion was not successful and the Tennesse Titans won 23-21.
He was among 19 players released by the Packers today.
Quote from: reality check on August 30, 2008, 07:17:50 PM
I'm happy for Urban since he's in my backyard and really has a shot to contribute as a third WR by committee with Steve Breaston and Early Doucet.
Weisenhut said Breaston and Urban would split the #3 role for now. Urban was basically off the chart at the beginning of camp so this is still pretty good news.
The Dallas media was hoping that Urban would be cut so the Cowboys could pick him up - they have had injury problems at WR. Ha ha, maybe they shouldn't have cut him in the first place.
Former Mississippi College wide receiver Jake Allen was signed to Green Bay's practice squad today. Allen was one of eight practice squad signings for the Packers.
Andy Studebaker was released in the final roster cut but was signed to the Eagles practice squad today so he will indeed be with the Eagles afterall. I hope he can follow the same path the Jason Trusnik did in converting from rush end to outside backer at the pro level and maybe getting his shot somewhere in the middle of the season through special teams play as happened to JT last year.
Now Trusnik needs to get that foot back in order so he can be activated from the PUP list.
Here is the up to date practice squads list
http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/09/01/practice-squads-as-of-september-1/
It's not the pros but I just heard while watching the Tennessee/UCLA game that new Tennessee OC Dave Clawson is a Williams graduate who played football and basketball for them in his day.
I'm a gratuitous re-poster, but also this seems like a handy place for this well put-together roundup off D3football.com's front page. Use it as your FAQ/reference guide:
Garcon makes Colts roster
The list of Division III football players in the NFL has had a bit of turnover in the past couple of years. No longer are R-Kal Truluck and Clint Kriewaldt two of the main standard-bearers for D-III and there are definitely some new faces.
Chief among them is Mount Union's Pierre Garcon. The second Division III player drafted in April, the sixth-round pick is the only rookie who has made an active roster heading into the NFL regular season. Garcon caught seven passes for 74 yards with the Indianapolis Colts this preseason and averaged 28.6 yards on kickoff returns, including a 51-yarder.
Menlo's Nate Jackson made the Denver Broncos roster for another season after missing most of last year with a groin injury. The two-time first-team D3football.com All-American made one start for Denver at tight end last year and also caught a touchdown pass. He's quickly becoming one of the Division III veterans of the NFL, in his sixth season.
The longest-tenured? No, it's not John Carroll's London Fletcher, in his 11th season in the NFL and his second with the Washington Redskins. It's Houston Texans punter Matt Turk, in his 14th season out of UW-Whitewater.
Coe running back Fred Jackson remains on the Buffalo Bills' roster. The 2002 second-team D3football.com All-American had 58 carries for 300 yards as a 26-year-old rookie in 2007.
Wheaton's Andy Studebaker was cut by the Philadelphia Eagles. The team signed its sixth-round pick to the practice squad. Wesley defensive lineman Bryan Robinson was cut by the Cardinals. Jerheme Urban made the team, however, after catching 22 passes for 329 yards and two touchdowns last season.
Mississippi College wide receiver Jake Allen was cut by the Packers but signed to their practice squad after a fine preseason. Salisbury cornerback Byron Westbrook and St. Olaf receiver Horace Gant were among the Redskins' final cuts, but both were signed to the practice squad.
The Kansas City Chiefs cut Whitworth tight end Michael Allan. He was the team's seventh-round pick in 2007 and spent most of last season on the practice squad.
Ohio Northern's Jason Trusnik is on the New York Jets' physically unable to perform list.
The Tennessee Titans cut Jerrell Freeman, the D3football.com defensive player of the year. Derek Stanley, a seventh-round draft pick by the Rams in 2007, was among the team's final cuts. Todd Lowber, the former Ramapo high jumper, was among the final cuts by the Dallas Cowboys. He was attempting to make the team as a wide receiver.
Ryan Hoag, who was Mr. Irrelevant in 2003 but has never appeared in a regular-season NFL game, was among the final cuts of the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Quote from: reality check on September 01, 2008, 11:24:56 PM
It's not the pros but I just heard while watching the Tennessee/UCLA game that new Tennessee OC Dave Clawson is a Williams graduate who played football and basketball for them in his day.
Sooner or later, I'm going to start a board for this. For now, the ATN thread is the (il)logical home for famous D3 alums.
I have a new one too: Ravens owner Steve Biscotti = Salisbury.
Been a frustrating season so far for the Cards' Jerheme Urban, who has seen very little PT and had only one (incomplete) pass thrown his way today. He did complete a 18-yd pass on a trick play today; think that's his first NFL pass completion.
Steve Breaston has apparently won the #3 WR position, leading to the decrease in action for Jerheme.
Quote from: Ron Boerger on September 21, 2008, 11:55:32 PM
Been a frustrating season so far for the Cards' Jerheme Urban, who has seen very little PT and had only one (incomplete) pass thrown his way today. He did complete a 18-yd pass on a trick play today; think that's his first NFL pass completion.
Steve Breaston has apparently won the #3 WR position, leading to the decrease in action for Jerheme.
Man, this situation really puts me in a quandary. I'm a diehard d3 guy, but also a Michigan guy! 'Stevie' was one of my all-time favorite players, especially early on. As a freshman, he may have been the most electric player in the country (more as a kick returner than a receiver - by about his fifth game, teams would punt out of bounds or do short kickoffs rather than risk a TD return), but he just never seemed to develop to his potential. As a freshman, he seemed an inevitable first-round pick; now he's barely hanging on to a career.
I just wish Urban could land with a team that regularly runs 3 or 4 WRs. The Cards' basic package is a 2 WR set and with Boldin and Fitzgerald everyone else is fighting for crumbs.
Urban had his first catches of the year today - but the Cards were totally blown out. Jerheme had five catches for 50 yds and scored from 16 yards out for his fourth NFL touchdown.
Pierre Garcon logged his first NFL minutes yesterday for the Colts tallying a KR for 23 yards and two special teams tackles.
Pierre has been playing for several weeks.
My bad, this week was his first as a KR/PR though.
Derek Stanley just caught his first NFL pass for the St. Louis Rams. He was signed off the practice squad 3 weeks ago and makes his first career catch one to remember. He snatched it out of the defender's hands and seperated for an 80 yard bomb touchdown.
Another DIII guy makes an impact!
That's the way you want to break into the NFL!
Jerheme Urban had a 56-yd TD catch at the end of the first half against the Rams today. The stat sheet says it was tipped, hopefully I'll catch it on one of the highlight shows later.
Ron
Right place at the right time for Jerheme. Warner left the ball way underthrown and it wasn't tipped so much as it was dropped by the DB and it fell right into Jerheme's hands. Great reaction on his part and a TD is a TD!
Two D-III players get TD's in the same game. Wonder if that's a first.
Quote from: reality check on November 02, 2008, 01:39:04 PM
Derek Stanley just caught his first NFL pass for the St. Louis Rams. He was signed off the practice squad 3 weeks ago and makes his first career catch one to remember. He snatched it out of the defender's hands and seperated for an 80 yard bomb touchdown.
Another DIII guy makes an impact!
Somebody beat me to it!
Originally posted by USee over on the CCIW board in the North Region:
Here is a link to a story about practice squad players with Andy Studebaker from the Philadelphia Eagles website.
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=16585# (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=16585#)
Pierre Garcon got his first NFL catch today along with 85 yards in kick returns for the Colts.
Wheaton College alum Andy Studebaker signed to Kansas City Chiefs active roster from the Eagles practice squad and is expected to play on Sunday.
http://athletics.wheaton.edu/News/football/2008/11/17/andy-chiefs.asp?path=football (http://athletics.wheaton.edu/News/football/2008/11/17/andy-chiefs.asp?path=football)
Coe alum Fred Jackson had a strong game last night, which led to a short conversation on ESPN regarding the Coehawks, and Marv Levy's relationship to the school.
Always nice to see a tip of the hat to our Div III brethren.
Quote from: Mugsy on November 18, 2008, 12:23:42 AM
Wheaton College alum Andy Studebaker signed to Kansas City Chiefs active roster from the Eagles practice squad and is expected to play on Sunday.
http://athletics.wheaton.edu/News/football/2008/11/17/andy-chiefs.asp?path=football (http://athletics.wheaton.edu/News/football/2008/11/17/andy-chiefs.asp?path=football)
Good for him, but I was not pleased to see that.
Quote from: Joe Wally on November 18, 2008, 10:13:14 AM
Coe alum Fred Jackson had a strong game last night, which led to a short conversation on ESPN regarding the Coehawks, and Marv Levy's relationship to the school.
Always nice to see a tip of the hat to our Div III brethren.
Ive watched him a couple times this year. I like him.
Jerheme Urban's had one of his better halves against the Giants today. He had a nice block on a kick return that helped spring the returner, a 32-yard catch, and made a touchdown-saving shoestring tackle on a long Giants kick return.
Does anybody have an update on Bryan Robinson? I know he had some prospects after the Cardinals. Thanks!
-Ski
Derek Stanley may have been the only bright spot for the Rams today with a 75 yard KO return.
Quote from: K-Mack on November 23, 2008, 01:02:01 AM
Quote from: Mugsy on November 18, 2008, 12:23:42 AM
Wheaton College alum Andy Studebaker signed to Kansas City Chiefs active roster from the Eagles practice squad and is expected to play on Sunday.
http://athletics.wheaton.edu/News/football/2008/11/17/andy-chiefs.asp?path=football (http://athletics.wheaton.edu/News/football/2008/11/17/andy-chiefs.asp?path=football)
Good for him, but I was not pleased to see that.
Care to elaborate on this? I'm not sure what you mean. Are you an Eagles fan and wish they weren't getting rid of him, are you a Chiefs fan and upset they are picking him up? Do you just think the situation was better for him in in Philly?
Mugsy
I can't speak for K-mack but I know a few of us Eagles fans thought he should have made the roster... He had a better than average camp and preseason
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 23, 2008, 08:43:18 PM
Mugsy
I can't speak for K-mack but I know a few of us Eagles fans thought he should have made the roster... He had a better than average camp and preseason
Thanks for your insight. I'm a bit torn.
On the one hand the Chiefs will be playing him in his college position at DE due to their scheme. On the other hand, the Eagles have a history of taking physically talented players from smaller colleges and developing them.
Regardless... the Chiefs are plain awful!
But he'll be playing and the opportunity could give him a chance to latch on elsewhere. Urban's a perfect example - only 13 catches in two+ years with Seattle, cut, signed by the Cowboys to their practice squad, cut after the last 2007 preseason game (despite a 95-yd kick return for TD in that game), signed by Arizona. 22 catches last season, 24 so far this year despite being the #4 WR on a team with two of the league's best. The NFL is such an uphill climb for a D3 player!
Quote from: Ron Boerger on November 23, 2008, 10:12:35 PM
But he'll be playing and the opportunity could give him a chance to latch on elsewhere. Urban's a perfect example - only 13 catches in two+ years with Seattle, cut, signed by the Cowboys to their practice squad, cut after the last 2007 preseason game (despite a 95-yd kick return for TD in that game), signed by Arizona. 22 catches last season, 24 so far this year despite being the #4 WR on a team with two of the league's best. The NFL is such an uphill climb for a D3 player!
Not to mention a league minimum salary (assuming that is what he signed) is considerably better than a practice squad salary.
Quote from: Teamski on November 23, 2008, 06:28:33 PM
Does anybody have an update on Bryan Robinson? I know he had some prospects after the Cardinals. Thanks!
-Ski
There was a B. Robinson starting for them last night against the Birds. Think he was wearing No. 97.
I didn't actually see him make a play, but this game log suggests it was him:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=1349
And yeah, I wanted Studebaker ON the Eagles.
There are two B. Robinsons.
Birth Date June 22, 1974
Birth Place Toledo, OH
Height 6-4
Weight 304 lbs.
Age 34
Position DE
Experience 12 years
College Fresno State
k-mack
That is the other B Robinson..
I talked to Brian at homecoming a few weeks ago and he had just had a tryout with the Soul and he was headed out to the midwest for another tryout though he was still in touch with some nfl teams about taxi squads . I haven't seen him at a game since so I am not sure where he is but I am sure he Wesley site will let us know if he reconnects with a team.
I thought that was strange because it didn't look like him, but the NFL.com bio for #97 said "Bryan" ... certainly I figured there could be two B. Robinsons, maybe even two Brians ... but I thought the Bryan with the y was the clincher ... ah well, obviously I didn't look very closely. :)
The Cardinals site wrote a feature on it.
http://www.azcardinals.com/news/detail.php?PRKey=2389
Guy writing the article -- I kid you not -- is named Urban. :)
Houston Texans and former UW-Whitewater's Matt Turk (http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/35644964.html) just punted in his 200th NFL game yesterday at Lambeau Field vs the Packers.
As far as FUTURE D3 players in the pros:
Will anyone actually get drafted? Probably not, but I think Pete Ittersagen (Wheaton, IL) has an outside chance. Anyone else?
And who has a decent chance as free agents? Gotta figure both Kmic and Micheli from MUC, and probably Rupp from Franklin. Who am I overlooking? (Obviously, I'm a bit North-centric. :P)
According to the latest NFL stats, it appears Andy Studebaker had his first official tackle in the NFL yesterday against Denver.
I'll apologize to any "purists" out there before posting this, but I don't know where else to go with it, and I think it's interesting.
Last night, the Washington Capitals were in dire need of a goalie to back up starter Brent Johnson since their other goalie, Jose Theodore "tweaked" a hammy in the afternoon skate. Usually, their AHL affiliate, which is in Hershey, PA can supply such a need in short order, however, the Hershey Bears were in Houston, TX readying to play the Aeros there. It would take a while to get Simeon Varlemov to DC. They have employed as a Web site producer, a former D III goalie (Oswego), Brett Leonhardt, who sometimes takes shots in practice in a pinch. They suited him up, and he was on the bench, with a jersey that bore his name, in the event Johnson was injured in the game and couldn't continue. Varlemov arrived and dressed, and was able to take over for Leonhardt about midway through the first period. The broadcast team even aired an interview with Leonhardt to get his thoughts about getting some NHL "experience." Good story all around IMHO.
Good news: Jerheme Urban's 82 yards and a TD led all receivers in today's Cards-Vikings game. The touchdown was his third of the season, the 82 yards a season's best.
Bad news: His 50 yard catch-and-run at the beginning of the second half was the only Arizona offensive score in a 35-14 loss.
I don't get where that is bad news ...
Pat, you're too quick for me. :D
Given that nearly all of us are Urban fans, but otherwise there are perhaps 3 Cardinals fans, where's the bad news? (And that's from someone who is also definitely not a Vikings fan. :P)
So I guess I'm greedy, I want my guy to be making plays on the winning team. ;)
EDIT: Here's the video of the TD from NFL.com:
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80d56660
The AFL suspended play again today for next year so it looks like one less place for the players to advanve to from DIII
Ron
You beat me to reporting the day but I'm surprised that you failed to mention that in having such a good day yesterday, Urban now has career bests in TD catches, yards and receptions in a season.
Who was it that made the statement they wished he landed on a team where he could be counted on more as a third or fourth receiver and not the Cardinals?!? ;) He's in probably the best place he could ever hope to be and in a passing offense that has a chance to do something that has only been done oncei n NFL history; having three receivers with over a 1000 yards on the year. Bolding and Fitz are already there and Breaston is sitting at 909.
When you consider in the number of yards and receptions those three get, it's even more impressive that Urban gets as much production as he does. The big three account for 248 catches and over 2300 yards which is more receptions and yards receiving than the Oakland Raiders have put up as a team. You wouldn't think a fourth receiver could pull the numbers that Urban has here in AZ with so many balls going to those guys. I mean they have more receptions and yards than the entire Oakland Raiders offense.
I even heard the play by play guy mention yesterday how lucky the Cards were to have such great receivers after Boldin and Fitz like "Urban and Breaston" (stated in that order on the broadcast and that was before the TD catch).
He's been fun to watch.
Yes, that was me :P ... and it is amazing that he's been able to get that many catches from the #4 spot given who he has in front of him (and last week they mostly played some backup TE at #4). In my favor, when I made the comments AZ wasn't running a lot of 4 WR sets. How was I to know they were going to have the most anemic rushing attack in modern history? ;)
As for the "best in season" stuff I was waiting until after the last regular season game. :D
Washingon Redskins (and John Carroll-ex) MLB London Fletcher (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=1680) is tired of being named an alternate to the Pro Bowl (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3776324&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines). Considering he's the NFL's leading tackler over the past decade, has never missed a game in his career, and is the leader a Washington's defense ranked in the top five, you can understand. Fletcher has been named an alternate eight of his eleven seasons.
Quote from: Ron Boerger on December 18, 2008, 09:28:02 AM
Washingon Redskins (and John Carroll-ex) MLB London Fletcher (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=1680) is tired of being named an alternate to the Pro Bowl (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3776324&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines). Considering he's the NFL's leading tackler over the past decade, has never missed a game in his career, and is the leader a Washington's defense ranked in the top five, you can understand. Fletcher has been named an alternate eight of his eleven seasons.
And the first day that ESPN ran this story, they misspelled his name as "Landon" adding further insult to injury.
It's been a pretty good year for DIII guys in general.
We've already touched on Urban's career year and know that London has has a Pro Bowl caliber year for the Skins but the rest of the DIII pros have done a decent job this season as well.
Fred Jackson, fresh off a big game this weekend, has just over 1000 yards of total offense between rushing, receiving, and returns. He's got 3 TD's on the year and is averaging 4.2 YPC, ranking second on the team in rushing and fourth in receiving.
Derek Stanley has positioned himself as a solid kick returner and has made the most of his opportunities as a WR. He's averaging 25 yards per KR on the year.
Jason Trusnik missed the first nine games of the season but has managed 5 special teams tackles in the last six games.
Pierre Garcon has averaged 21.6 per KR this year but has been primarily the lead blocker for the returner in recent weeks for the Colts. He's also got 8 special teams tackles on the season.
Turk's numbers are solid but not the best. He's in the middle of the pack for most punting statistics.
Jerheme Urban was the lead story on Yahoo! fantasy sports today:
(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi3.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy96%2FTiVo%2FJerheme.jpg&hash=b7a47f3792c68998f234b8d191f398b627717aba)
Quote from: K-Mack on December 23, 2008, 06:30:31 PM
Jerheme Urban was the lead story on Yahoo! fantasy sports today:
(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi3.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy96%2FTiVo%2FJerheme.jpg&hash=b7a47f3792c68998f234b8d191f398b627717aba)
And the Urban Legend just made good by catching a 16 yard TD for the Cards' first score.
Quote from: reality check on December 22, 2008, 04:29:56 PM
Jason Trusnik missed the first nine games of the season but has managed 5 special teams tackles in the last six games.
While using the quote function, Trusnik adds another tackle to go along with his fumble recovery.
singed,
Ultimate Mahi Mahi
Quote from: reality check on December 28, 2008, 05:15:46 PM
Quote from: K-Mack on December 23, 2008, 06:30:31 PM
Jerheme Urban was the lead story on Yahoo! fantasy sports today:
(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi3.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy96%2FTiVo%2FJerheme.jpg&hash=b7a47f3792c68998f234b8d191f398b627717aba)
And the Urban Legend just made good by catching a 16 yard TD for the Cards' first score.
ended the day with 4 catches/43 yds and 2 special team tackles (assisted). Didn't see the game but from reading some chat board comments he could have had a second TD had a throw from Leinart been higher.
For the regular season, 34 catches/4 TD/448 yds & ten tackles on special teams - not shabby for the #4 WR on a team where the top three were all over 1000 yds. On to the playoffs, the Falcons' pass defense can be had (just like the Cards' pass defense).
Quote from: Ron Boerger on December 28, 2008, 08:01:08 PM
Quote from: reality check on December 28, 2008, 05:15:46 PM
Quote from: K-Mack on December 23, 2008, 06:30:31 PM
Jerheme Urban was the lead story on Yahoo! fantasy sports today:
(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi3.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy96%2FTiVo%2FJerheme.jpg&hash=b7a47f3792c68998f234b8d191f398b627717aba)
And the Urban Legend just made good by catching a 16 yard TD for the Cards' first score.
ended the day with 4 catches/43 yds and 2 special team tackles (assisted). Didn't see the game but from reading some chat board comments he could have had a second TD had a throw from Leinart been higher.
For the regular season, 34 catches/4 TD/448 yds & ten tackles on special teams - not shabby for the #4 WR on a team where the top three were all over 1000 yds. On to the playoffs, the Falcons' pass defense can be had (just like the Cards' pass defense).
Unless someone phantom edits his numbers, Breaston ended the day today with 84 yards. He came into the game with 915. I hope they find that missing yard in the tapes. It would stink to miss by one yard on the whole season and would keep the trio from joining Stokely/Harrison/Wayne from the Colts as the only 3x1000 yard trio in NFL history.
I don't know about Leinhart's throw because I was paying little attention by the time he was in there, but I know Warner missed him in the first half on a big gainer or possible TD. Urban find a deep hole in the zone and broke to the sideline but Warner threw to the seam. Urban had 4-5 yards cushion on the DB if Warner and he were on the same page.
Jerheme made his TD catch interesting and bobbled it a couple times before finally getting a good grip on the ball.
Andy Studebaker credited with 2 tackles in todays Chiefs vs. Bengals game. I'm assuming that since this game was meaningless from a standings perspective, he might have seen more action.
Pierre Garcon caught 3 passes for 20-some yards today, and had a 52-yard kickoff return wiped out by a penalty (he got credit for 22). Plus a special-teams tackle.
It was his best game for Indy, but most probably due to the fact that Manning only played one series and Pierre practices most with the second team.
Still, a solid game!
Quote from: reality check on December 28, 2008, 08:44:03 PM
Unless someone phantom edits his numbers, Breaston ended the day today with 84 yards. He came into the game with 915. I hope they find that missing yard in the tapes. It would stink to miss by one yard on the whole season and would keep the trio from joining Stokely/Harrison/Wayne from the Colts as the only 3x1000 yard trio in NFL history.
The Cards got the ball back on a late INT and they ran one pass play to Breaston so he could get 1,000.
NFL.com stats (http://www.nfl.com/players/stevebreaston/profile?id=BRE019124) show Steve with 1,006.
Former JCU WR Josh McDaniels (currently OC for the New England Patriots) is on a short list of candidates that the Denver Broncos are entertaining as their next head coach according to ESPN.com today.
Urban and the Cards are still alive. (Did Delhomme have an off day or what? Rare stinker for Carolina yesterday! :o :o)
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on January 11, 2009, 11:20:34 AM
Urban and the Cards are still alive. (Did Delhomme have an off day or what? Rare stinker for Carolina yesterday! :o :o)
That was an amazing display of ineptitude from a guy who led the team to an 8-0 home record and only threw 12 picks all season. The Cards aren't exactly known for their defense.
WRT Urban, unfortunately he is not getting near the opportunities he did earlier in the year. He was only targeted twice (on consecutive plays) yesterday, despite being nominally the 3rd WR. Some of the balls formerly going his way are going to TE Spach. But he's still playing, unlike a lot of his WR brethren.
Question: how are salaries handled for guys who are in the playoffs? Do they get an extra 1/16th each week ... ?
John Carroll alum Josh McDaniels is reported to be the next HC for the Denver Broncos.
Ron
Well Spach is out with an ACL but Boldin appears to be back. It's a double-edge sword. Jerheme is still playing along with his Cards teammates but he's not getting as many looks. I'm sure he's okay with the circumstances. The revamped running game isn't helping his numbers either.
I think there are contract incentives for some but I thought I heard that players receive a pro-rated salary equivalent to the pay they got each week throughout the season as long as they're in the playoffs. I can't confirm that with anything solid though.
I know hscoach already posted that John Carroll alum Josh McDaniels was named HC in Denver but there's also a story posted in the OAC forum stating that one of McDaniels' JCU teammates, Nick Caserio, is in line for a promotion with the departure of Scott Pioli. Caserio has been in the Pats front office for 8 years. It's a cool story for those two as Caserio displaced McDaniels as JCU QB and threw a couple TD passes to Josh in their college days.
The Spach injury actually may hurt the Cards more than Boldin's. Spach was a big part of getting that running game going and the other TEs not only have not been as successful in the run game but are battling nagging injuries.
A nice story in today's San Antonio Express-News (http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/Former_Trinity_receiver_one_win_from_Super_Bowl.html?c=y&commentSubmitted=y#comments) on Urban and the Cards' upcoming game. I guess they figured with the Eagles coming to town, they'd better write the story while they had the chance. ;)
With the Cards' victory today, Jerheme Urban will become a member of an elite fraternity: players to appear in both the D3 and NFL championships. :)
Let's hope Feb 1, 2009 turns out better for Urb than December, 2002.
Quote from: Ron Boerger on January 18, 2009, 09:07:00 PM
With the Cards' victory today, Jerheme Urban will become a member of an elite fraternity: players to appear in both the D3 and NFL championships. :)
Let's hope Feb 1, 2009 turns out better for Urb than December, 2002.
Simple. Keep the Arizona QB off the RiverWalk! :D
The great young man that Jerheme is, will represent Trinity, the SCAC and DIII football well! I KNOW you won't have to worry about any 'Riverwalk' incidents with him. Those close to him are VERY proud!
Have not had a chance to listen since I'm at work, but the SCAC blog (http://scacsports.blogspot.com/2009/01/scac-interactive-former-trinity.html) has an audio interview with Urban.
Jerheme Urban is doing a daily Super Bowl blog (http://community.victoriaadvocate.com/home/Blog/JerhemeUrban) for his hometown newspaper.
Putting this thread to rest for the season: Jerheme Urban saw *extremely* limited duty in the first three quarters of Super Bowl XLIII, not even seeing as much time on special teams as normal. He finally got in when the Cards made their push in the fourth quarter and had one catch for 18 yds. He only saw one other pass his way which Warner overthrew.
Congratulations to Jerheme and the Cards on a very fine season. I suspect that if he would have been in on the last play of the first half, James Harrison would not have made it to the end zone.
And to be fair, he should have been called for holding on Fitzgeralds touchdown.
Here's alittle blurb on Welsey's Larry Breavers,
http://athletics.wesley.edu/sports/fball/2008-09/news/20090311_udpro.
I understand that the Colts and Jags had him return for another workout and the Colts called for tapes.
Fred Jackson - DIII NFL player of the year!
or at least challenging London Fletcher for that title.
The CFL's Edmonton Eskimos have signed Millsaps QB Juan Joseph:
http://www.esks.com/default.aspx?tabid=1114
I hope the talented young Mr. Joseph can adjust to the "somewhat cooler" Canadian fall weather. :)
Thanks to crufootball for this post...
Jerrell Freeman signed with the Saskatchewan Roughriders, a CFL team.
http://www.tsn.ca/cfl/story/?id=270891&lid=sublink01&lpos=headlines_cfl
Previously, the Roughriders (http://www.saskriders.com/news/press_releases/3149/) signed former UWW LB A.J. Raebel, who they list as a DE and Justin Beaver. They appear to have a big interest in former DIII players!!
Quote from: BoBo on March 16, 2009, 11:41:30 AM
Previously, the Roughriders (http://www.saskriders.com/news/press_releases/3149/) signed former UWW LB A.J. Raebel, who they list as a DE and Justin Beaver. They appear to have a big interest in former DIII players!!
I'm sure Mr Beaver greatly prefers seeing Mr Freeman in the same uniform. ;D
Quote from: Toby Taff on March 24, 2009, 10:56:40 AM
Quote from: BoBo on March 16, 2009, 11:41:30 AM
Previously, the Roughriders (http://www.saskriders.com/news/press_releases/3149/) signed former UWW LB A.J. Raebel, who they list as a DE and Justin Beaver. They appear to have a big interest in former DIII players!!
I'm sure Mr Beaver greatly prefers seeing Mr Freeman in the same uniform. ;D
...and vice versa!! ;)
A top 100 small-school list (http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Small-School-Spotlight/small_school_projections_expand_to_100.html)from the same site that (erroneously?) reported the failed drug tests at the combine.
Time saver:
No. 18 Boltus
No. 33 Beavers
No. 74 Ittersagen
Thanks for stopping by, D3!
Pro Football Weekly also has White, the QB from Bentley, rated highly - my guess is that he is positioned by PFW approximately as a likely free agent signee. His reported height, weight and speed are in Boltus' neighborhood.
Sorry - Bentley is D2.
Here's a short blurb about two former Wesley standouts who are playing af2
http://athletics.wesley.edu/sports/fball/2008-09/news/20090417_af2
Larry Beavers signed with Carolina Panthers according to Wesley football site
:D Ahh, sweet news!! Congrads to Beavers for a job well done. Good luck in training camp!! ;D
-Ski
A big congrats to our D-3 players who get a shot at the NFL via invites and FA contracts. Go into rookie camp confident and be prepared for the increased speed of the game. The best of luck!
I heard a rumor that Bryan Robinson was approached by the Cardinals again. Does anybody know anything about it?
-Ski
Quote from: Teamski on April 28, 2009, 02:22:40 AM
I heard a rumor that Bryan Robinson was approached by the Cardinals again. Does anybody know anything about it?
-Ski
Ski
Bryan is playing for Manchester (N.H.) in the Arena 2 league. I understand that he has been contacted by three teams including the Cardinals. Not sure if he has been invited to mini camp or no.
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on April 28, 2009, 04:22:40 PM
Quote from: Teamski on April 28, 2009, 02:22:40 AM
I heard a rumor that Bryan Robinson was approached by the Cardinals again. Does anybody know anything about it?
-Ski
Ski
Bryan is playing for Manchester (N.H.) in the Arena 2 league. I understand that he has been contacted by three teams including the Cardinals. Not sure if he has been invited to mini camp or no.
Thanks for the update. Man, I need to know who you talk to, hehehe....
-Ski
Quote from: Teamski on April 28, 2009, 10:01:35 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on April 28, 2009, 04:22:40 PM
Quote from: Teamski on April 28, 2009, 02:22:40 AM
I heard a rumor that Bryan Robinson was approached by the Cardinals again. Does anybody know anything about it?
-Ski
Ski
Bryan is playing for Manchester (N.H.) in the Arena 2 league. I understand that he has been contacted by three teams including the Cardinals. Not sure if he has been invited to mini camp or no.
Thanks for the update. Man, I need to know who you talk to, hehehe....
-Ski
Ski
I got people!!!! ;)
When I tell my 3 year old grandson that he is a handsome dog, he firmly says "I am not a dog. I am a people".
Bill Polian talks about Pierre Garcon on the NFL Network. About 4 minutes into the video:
Pierre Garcon (http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d81007211)
[ESPN.com (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4104795) ran a pretty cool story on JCU's Josh McDaniels detailing his upbringing and path from nobody to NFL Head Coach.
I had posted this on the ACFC board. Looks like Larry will get a good look and a shot at making the team.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here's a little blurb from the Carolina Panthers
http://www.reflector.com/news/state/panthers-ink-22-including-penn-states-cadogan-573717.html
Nobody's heard anything on Boltus? Since Sunday?
Or am i just not looking in the right places? (so far the front page and this board)
To me it is mildly surprising that if he is not unwilling to go forward at this time, it has not yet become general public knowledge that he has signed with an NFL team or at least been given a chance for a workout with an NFL team. Perhaps there is a major negative about him (such as one relating to health or attitude) that has not been made public knowledge.
Trinty (TX) ex Jerheme Urban discusses the challenges of making it as a pro as an undrafted free-agent (http://www.azcardinals.com/news/detail.php?PRKey=2990) in a story from the Arizona Cardinals' web site.
Update on Pete Ittersagen who signed a FA contract with Jacksonville:
QuoteThree undrafted players were attention-grabbers: San Diego State linebacker Russell Allen, UConn defensive end Julius Williams and Wheaton cornerback Pete Ittersagen. Wheaton is Division Three but Ittersagen never appeared overwhelmed. He has quick feet and coverage smarts and has the look of a guy who could play safety, too.
Article on Wesley's Larry Beavers
http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=191282930316&h=LDH5g&u=CCnMl&ref=nf
update on former Wheaton player Andy Studebaker, now with the KC Chiefs and trying to make it as an OLB in a 3-4 scheme:
http://www.chiefsgab.com/2009/05/26/chiefs-lb-andy-studebaker-right-place-at-the-right-time/
Here's an article about Moises Fokou who played one year for Frostburg before transfering to Maryland and was draft this year by the Eagles .
http://www.philly.com/dailynews/columnists/20090529_Sam_Donnellon__Eagles__seventh-round_pick_Fokou_easy_to_root_for.html
Here's a link to a documentary partially about Owen Schmitt, who played one year at UW-River Falls before going to West Virginia and then the Seahawks:
http://blogs.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2009/06/01/fb_schmitt_to_appear_at_the_call_movie_p
Jerheme Urban will once again offer a free football camp (http://www.victoriaadvocate.com/news/2009/jun/10/mf_onsports_061109_54131/?viewpoints) for high school WRs and QBs in Victoria, Texas this Saturday.
From the ASC board...
Quote from: voice on July 11, 2009, 02:46:31 PM
Former UMHB linebacker Jerrell Freeman blocks a Toronto punt and recovers for a TD late in the 1st half of Saskatchewan Roughrider's CFL game.today in Toronto. Freeman's recover in the end zone gives the Riders a 37-13 halftime lead. Freeman has been outstanding on special teams so far this season. Another stud out of D3 football.
Quote from: crufootball on July 11, 2009, 09:19:15 PM
You can see the blocked punt and recovery by Jerrell Freeman at http://cfl.ca/video/index/id/7153. Rather long highlight but to jump straight to Jerrell go to the 3:10 mark.
Here is the URL, again.
http://cfl.ca/video/index/id/7153
Freeman was on the winning side of a D-III matchup in Canada this week as Ohio Northern's Jamal Robertson ran for 80 yards and a TD as well as snagging three passes and returning a kick for the Argonauts in their loss to Saskatchewan.
WAY TO GO #50!!! Jerrell Freeman!!! UMHB and all of Cru Country is proud of you!!!
Former Occidental QB (2007) Danny Southwick has signed a free agent contract with the Oakland Raiders after a stint with the Louisville Fire of the AF2.
Jamal Robertson (ONU) is currently the 3rd leading rusher in the CFL:
CFL Rushing Stats (http://www.cfl.ca/statistics/league/stat/Rushing/year/2009)
According to this AZCardinals.com story (http://azcardinals.com/news/detail.php?PRKey=3104), Trinity (TX) grad Jerheme Urban had a good first week of camp but once again has to fend off challengers for the #4 WR spot with the Cardinals. His solid contribution on special teams last year works in his favor.
CBSSports.com (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/397275) says Urban "hasn't had a bad day in camp yet" and "is easily one of the league's best #4 WRs".
Article in Miami Herald about Wheaton College CB Pete Ittersagen. While it is still a long shot for him to make the Jaguars team or practice squad, it sounds like he is making the best of the opportunity and is making an impression on teammates and the coaches.
I particularly like the description of the haircut he was given. I wish they had a picture to accompany it. I also liked the nickname he has been given - "Ice".
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/breaking-news/story/1180121.html
a Peter King tweet: Two things to watch at Colt camp: WR Pierre Garcon, leading in the race to replace MHarrison; and a more active, blitzing D. Pierre's good.
link: http://twitter.com/SI_PeterKing
Posted by Usee over on the CCIW board:
QuoteKansas City Chiefs released their first depth chart and Andrew Studebaker (Wheaton) is listed as 2nd team OLB behind former NE star Mike Vrabel.
Another story on Urban, this time from the Arizona Republic: "Urban's game, role expand for Cards (http://www.azcentral.com/sports/cardinals/articles/2009/08/11/20090811spt-cardsnotes.html)". From most accounts he is having an outstanding training camp; strong comments here from both Coach Whisenhunt and Kurt Warner.
I wonder how many careers of former d3 players ended with the collapse of Arena Football? SI had a nice recap, focusing on Otterbein grad (and two-time Arena Bowl MVP) Matt D'Orazio.
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on August 14, 2009, 05:52:35 PM
I wonder how many careers of former d3 players ended with the collapse of Arena Football? SI had a nice recap, focusing on Otterbein grad (and two-time Arena Bowl MVP) Matt D'Orazio.
And, in the so-called College Football Preview issue, that was about the only statement about anything other than FBS.
Isn't A2 still in business? I know of a few that were playing there from Wesley
Quote from: Ron Boerger on August 12, 2009, 09:13:16 AM
Another story on Urban, this time from the Arizona Republic: "Urban's game, role expand for Cards (http://www.azcentral.com/sports/cardinals/articles/2009/08/11/20090811spt-cardsnotes.html)". From most accounts he is having an outstanding training camp; strong comments here from both Coach Whisenhunt and Kurt Warner.
The anouncers of the Arizona 1st perseason game talked up Urban quite a bit .
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on August 14, 2009, 11:15:58 PM
Isn't A2 still in business? I know of a few that were playing there from Wesley
Yep, stories I read said that the business model for AF2 is still sound financially (e.g. they only pay the guys a couple hundred bucks a game and a $50 bonus for winning).
Speaking of AF2 the
DPOY was just announced (http://www.af2.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=3525&ATCLID=204774989&SPID=1590&ISWIDE=1) -- it Wilkes-Barre/Scranton DB MICHEAUX ROBINSON, formerly of Otterbein. D3 does good once again.
Quote from: Ron Boerger on August 14, 2009, 11:39:39 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on August 14, 2009, 11:15:58 PM
Isn't A2 still in business? I know of a few that were playing there from Wesley
Yep, stories I read said that the business model for AF2 is still sound financially (e.g. they only pay the guys a couple hundred bucks a game and a $50 bonus for winning).
Speaking of AF2 the DPOY was just announced (http://www.af2.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=3525&ATCLID=204774989&SPID=1590&ISWIDE=1) -- it Wilkes-Barre/Scranton DB MICHEAUX ROBINSON, formerly of Otterbein. D3 does good once again.
The story on D'Orazio in SI talked about he was a two time MVP and on his way to be one of the highest paid players in the AFL. He said something along the lines that the pay in AF2 was not enough to make a living on, where the AFL gave players a chance to make a living and still keep trying to get to the next level.
Andrew Studebaker with a tackle and a sack for the Chiefs in their first preseason game.
Jamal Robertson was shut down on the ground but had 70 receiving yards last night in Toronto's loss to BC. He has dropped to 4th in the CFL in rushing and is sitting on 455 yards as well as a team high 23 catches for 250 yards.
He had a solid campaign in 2008 (645 yards rushing, 5.5 YPC, 6 TD, 27 catches for 271 yards) but through seven games in 2009 he's on pace for 1100 yards, 8 TD, 60 catches for 642 yards).
Jason Trusnik notched 3 solo tackles in his first pre-season game for the Jets but because of some scheme issues he ended up covering a WR one on one for what proved to be the game-winning TD in the loss to the Rams. I didn't see it but I read that it wasn't pretty. Hopefully that doesn't hurt his chances to stick around with NY for another season.
If the boxscore is correct, Wheaton alum Pete Ittersagen has an interception for the Jaguars tonight against Miami. I can't get the game so I can only go by the box score at this point. Awesome!
Larry Beavers(Wesley) had 2 punt returns and a kick off return also had a nice catch and run at wideout against Giants fior carolina tonite. Looked confidnet on catching the kicked balls. He made two guys miss on the reception .
Recap on week for Studebaker & Ittersagen:
http://athletics.wheaton.edu/news/2009/8/17/FB_0817092350.aspx?path=football (http://athletics.wheaton.edu/news/2009/8/17/FB_0817092350.aspx?path=football)
Jerrell Freeman picked up a couple of tackles this past weekend and was oved from 3rd on the depth chart on the right side to 2nd on the roster in the middle.
Woot! Great showings by these guys - hope they keep up the good work and make their squads!
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on August 17, 2009, 11:23:00 PM
Larry Beavers(Wesley) had 2 punt returns and a kick off return also had a nice catch and run at wideout against Giants fior carolina tonite. Looked confidnet on catching the kicked balls. He made two guys miss on the reception .
Yep, a KO return for 24 yards, a 25 yard pass reception and a 3 yard punt return. Not bad at all!! I hope he gets some first-half time in the next couple games to show his true worth. Way to go Larry!
-Ski
Quote from: Teamski on August 18, 2009, 11:07:16 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on August 17, 2009, 11:23:00 PM
Larry Beavers(Wesley) had 2 punt returns and a kick off return also had a nice catch and run at wideout against Giants fior carolina tonite. Looked confidnet on catching the kicked balls. He made two guys miss on the reception .
Yep, a KO return for 24 yards, a 25 yard pass reception and a 3 yard punt return. Not bad at all!! I hope he gets some first-half time in the next couple games to show his true worth. Way to go Larry!
-Ski
He also made a couple of nice blocks on the panthers last drive.
Beavers has a knack of cutting without jukimg back and forth and having watched him for a few years IMO that make him harder to read. He just slips rigth past people..
+1 ski... Soem one is taking you and me out!!! ;D Guess they don't like Wesley fans! ;)
Pierre Garcon just made a good play for the Colts against Philly. Solid catch and evasion of defender to pick up a first down. Go D3! Hope he wins that third receiver spot with Indy.
The sports station here in PHX that was up at Cards camp talked as they closed camp on Thursday that Jerheme Urban might have had the best camp of all the players in AZ's camp. He's not in jeopardy at all as far as a roster spot goes according to all reports but it's also nice to be mentioned as "best in camp" when you're a D3 guy.
This was taken from the Averett University Website:
Former Averett football star Hughley named arena2's Ironman of the Year
Courtesy of arena2football
8/21/2009 10:18:40 AM
Tulsa Talons wide receiver/kick returner Jeff Hughley has been named the JLS Ironman of the Year, as selected by a vote of arenafootball2 head coaches and members of the media.
The talented Averett University alum, in his third af2 campaign, had a spectacular all-around season in 2009 as a receiver and kick returner. He set single-season league records for total all-purpose yards and total kickoff return yards as well as single-season team records for receptions and receiving yards.
With 380 total yards in Week 17, Hughley broke the league single-season record for all-purpose yards. He finished the year with a total of 4,113 (1,909 receiving, 138 missed field goal, 2,069 kickoff return, -3 rush), over 600 yards more than Quad City standout Ira Gooch's previous af2 standard of 3,472 all-purpose yards (set in 2002). Hughley averaged just over 257 all-purpose yards per game. He also surpassed Gooch for most games over 200 all-purpose yards in a single season (11 - Hughley, 10 - Gooch). He had five games of over 300 all-purpose yards. Hughley's 290 all-purpose yards in Week 18 included four kickoff returns for 133 yards and one 57-yard return touchdown. That performance upped his total kickoff return yardage to 2,069 on the season, besting the old league record of 1,943 yards set by Bossier City's Shadrick McAfee in 2003.
Hughley handled 81 kickoff returns on the year, averaging 25.5 yards per return with four return touchdowns. On five missed field goal returns, he averaged 27.6 yards and returned one for a TD.
In addition to his kickoff return prowess, the 5-foot-8, 165-pounder was a lethal receiver for the Talons, setting new team-high marks for receptions (140) and receiving yards (1,909) in a single season. He managed 100-plus yard receiving efforts in 12 of 16 regular season games played. Hughley finished third in the league in scoring (338 points), total TDs (55) and receiving TDs (50). His most impressive scoring effort came in a Week 9 win against rival Oklahoma City. Hughley caught eight passes in Tulsa's 73-46 win against the Yard Dawgz for 103 yards and a staggering seven TDs. His only non-scoring catch was a 17-yarder early in the second half.
Hughley continued his stellar play in the postseason as well. In three playoff games, he led the Talons in receiving (31-498; 166 yards per game), kick return yards (269; 1 return TD) and all-purpose yards (767) and tied for team-high honors in scoring (54 points), total TDs (9) and receiving TDs (8).
He was also a big part of Tulsa's record-setting, first round home win against Oklahoma City on August 1. He scored four total TDs (3 receiving, 1 kickoff return) as the Talons put up an all-time af2 postseason-best 90 points in a 90-75 triumph over the Yard Dawgz.
Hughley was named JLS Ironman of the Week on three occasions during the 2009 season (Week 2, Week 17 and Week 21).
Quote from: reality check on August 22, 2009, 06:27:24 PM
The sports station here in PHX that was up at Cards camp talked as they closed camp on Thursday that Jerheme Urban might have had the best camp of all the players in AZ's camp. He's not in jeopardy at all as far as a roster spot goes according to all reports but it's also nice to be mentioned as "best in camp" when you're a D3 guy.
With injuries to Breaston (knee) and now Boldin (hammy) Urban should see expanded PT and opportunities against the Packers Friday night. I think it will be the first time he's had to play at the #2 spot since coming to 'zona.
Wesley's B Robinsin signed with CFL Hamilton TigerCats
http://athletics.wesley.edu/sports/fball/2009-10/news/20090827_brob
Urb snagged 6 bals for 103 yards last night. Not too shabby.
Jamal Robertson managed only 19 yards on 7 carries against the Calgary Stampeders (his first CFL team) but did lead all receivers with 11 catches for 91 yards this week.
Andy Studebaker with another sack last night in the Chiefs game:
QuoteDefensive Grit and a pick-six – Chiefs defenders were bringing the wood last night on defense. There were several big hits and, despite some miscues, the "D" made some big stops when they needed to. They escaped danger on multiple occasions, allowing over 400 yards of total offense, but holding Seattle to just 14 points. Flowers' pick-six got the crowd into the game early and LB Andy Studebaker logged a sack, as did DE Tyson Jackson. The defense has played with a high-motor this preseason, something that seemed to be lacking at times in 2008.
Update from Jaguars website regarding status of roster spot battles:
QuoteDefensive backs—Rashean Mathis, Sean Considine, Brian Williams and Reggie Nelson are the starters. Derek Cox was supposed to make Williams a possible roster decision, but Cox has yet to play a preseason game. Gerald Alexander, Brian Witherspoon, Tyron Brackenridge, Marlon McCree and Scott Starks are likely keepers. Rookie cornerback Pete Ittersagen is a threat and could close the ground with a top game on Thursday. Ittersagen and fellow undrafted rookie Michael Desormeaux would certainly be practice-squad candidates.
At the Redskins:
Byron Westbrook (http://www.suseagulls.com/sports/fball/2009-10/news/westbrook_nfl)
Larry Beavers was not added to the Panthers practice squad.
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 07, 2009, 03:01:51 PM
Larry Beavers was not added to the Panthers practice squad.
Well, that sux. As mentioned before, I'm sure his speed will be used elsewhere. At least he got that 1 in a 100 chance to play in the NFL.....;)
-Ski
Andy Studebaker makes 53 man roster for the Kansas City Chiefs - 2nd string OLB. Pete Ittersagen has been cut from the Jacksonville Jaguars and has yet to be signed to a practice squad.
http://athletics.wheaton.edu/news/2009/9/7/FB_0907090455.aspx?path=football (http://athletics.wheaton.edu/news/2009/9/7/FB_0907090455.aspx?path=football)
MUC's Pierre Garcon made his NFL debut a successful one. He had three catches (24 yards) in today's 14-12 Indianapolis victory over Jacksonville.
debut?
Sorry, my bad for not realizing he had a few catches last year. I should have remembered that he saw time primarily on special teams last season. Garcon did double his career yardage totals today. :)
Jerheme Urban had one of his better days, elevated to #3 with Steve Breaston's injury, he had five catches for 75 yards including a 40-yarder.
Coe's Fred Jackson is getting it done against the Patriots ...early in the 4th, 4 catches for 70 yards, 14 rushes for 58 to lead the Bills in both categories.
EDIT: he just scored on a screen from ten yards out !! Bills 24-13 if they hit the PAT. :) That is Fred's 4th career TD but his first receiving TD.
Quote from: Ron Boerger on September 14, 2009, 09:42:11 PM
Coe's Fred Jackson is getting it done against the Patriots ...early in the 4th, 4 catches for 70 yards, 14 rushes for 58 to lead the Bills in both categories.
EDIT: he just scored on a screen from ten yards out !! Bills 24-13 if they hit the PAT. :) That is Fred's 4th career TD but his first receiving TD.
Ya I don't recall which announcer said it but they did say Fred Jackson out of Coe College and the other one said "where is Coe College" The other one replied Iowa some where.
And today, after Urban caught a ball against the Jags, the broadcast crew pointed out that "Urban came out of Trinity College in WEST VIRGINIA." That's a new one! Thank you Chris Meyers for that gem.
Good story about Jamal and his successes so far this year in Toronto. Read it here (http://argonauts.ca/article/robertson-showing-versatility)
Robertson added 18 carries for 86 yards and a TD on the ground and another 3 catches for 22 yards in their loss to the BC Lions Saturday. He's having a heckuva year.
Fred Jackson (Coe) today: 28 carries, 163 yards; 6 receptions, 25 yards; 1 return, 9 yards; 1 fumble lost. Buffalo defeated Tampa Bay, 33-20.
London Fletcher (John Carroll) had 3 solo tackles + 6 assists today for Washington in their 9-7 win over the Rams. He had 18 tackles (11 solo) last week against the Giants.
Jerheme Urban (Trinity TX) had two catches for 25 yards in the Cards' 31-17 victory against Jacksonville.
Andy Studebaker (Wheaton) did play for the Chiefs in their 13-10 loss to the Raiders and had one special-teams tackle.
Pierre Garcon (Mount Union) will play (against Miami) tomorrow night.
Quote from: Ron Boerger on September 20, 2009, 07:57:48 PM
Fred Jackson (Coe) today: 28 carries, 163 yards; 6 receptions, 25 yards; 1 return, 9 yards; 1 fumble lost. Buffalo defeated Tampa Bay, 33-20.
London Fletcher (John Carroll) had 3 solo tackles + 6 assists today for Washington in their 9-7 win over the Rams. He had 18 tackles (11 solo) last week against the Giants.
Jerheme Urban (Trinity TX) had two catches for 25 yards in the Cards' 31-17 victory against Jacksonville.
Andy Studebaker (Wheaton) did play for the Chiefs in their 13-10 loss to the Raiders and had one special-teams tackle.
Pierre Garcon (Mount Union) will play (against Miami) tomorrow night.
Jason Trusnik (ONU) had 3 Special Teams tackles in the Jets' win over the Pats.
Josh McDaniels (JCU) got his first NFL win as a Head Coach.
Dom Capers (MUC) and his defense didn't do so hot versus the Bengals today.
Nick Caserio (JCU) is still working as the Director of Player Personnel for the New England Patriots after serving as a wide receivers coach for the Pats.
Quote from: Ron Boerger on September 20, 2009, 07:57:48 PM
Fred Jackson (Coe) today: 28 carries, 163 yards; 6 receptions, 25 yards; 1 return, 9 yards; 1 fumble lost. Buffalo defeated Tampa Bay, 33-20.
London Fletcher (John Carroll) had 3 solo tackles + 6 assists today for Washington in their 9-7 win over the Rams. He had 18 tackles (11 solo) last week against the Giants.
Jerheme Urban (Trinity TX) had two catches for 25 yards in the Cards' 31-17 victory against Jacksonville.
Andy Studebaker (Wheaton) did play for the Chiefs in their 13-10 loss to the Raiders and had one special-teams tackle.
Pierre Garcon (Mount Union) will play (against Miami) tomorrow night.
Also, Derek Stanley (UW-Whitewater) had 2 punt returns for 6 yard average for the Rams.
And Matt Turk (UWW) is a couple of weeks away from his 1,000th career punt. He's had quite a career as well but is forgotten because he is "just a punter".
Great Daily Dose blog post (http://www.d3football.com/dailydose/2009/09/21/hurrah-for-fred-jackson/) from Pat on all these guys, focusing on Fred Jackson.
Garcon has only been targeted once tonight that I can remember but he has been making some great blocks. He made a good play on the one ball thrown his way and caught it, but Manning threw it too far over his right shoulder so he couldn't come down in bounds.
EDIT: Oh hell yeah, a WR screen that went 48 yards for TD as Pierre left the Miami defenders in his dust. His first TD, not his last.
Quote from: BoBo on September 20, 2009, 11:38:23 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on September 20, 2009, 07:57:48 PM
Fred Jackson (Coe) today: 28 carries, 163 yards; 6 receptions, 25 yards; 1 return, 9 yards; 1 fumble lost. Buffalo defeated Tampa Bay, 33-20.
London Fletcher (John Carroll) had 3 solo tackles + 6 assists today for Washington in their 9-7 win over the Rams. He had 18 tackles (11 solo) last week against the Giants.
Jerheme Urban (Trinity TX) had two catches for 25 yards in the Cards' 31-17 victory against Jacksonville.
Andy Studebaker (Wheaton) did play for the Chiefs in their 13-10 loss to the Raiders and had one special-teams tackle.
Pierre Garcon (Mount Union) will play (against Miami) tomorrow night.
Also, Derek Stanley (UW-Whitewater) had 2 punt returns for 6 yard average for the Rams.
According to the Rams' twitter, the Rams have released Stanley
http://twitter.com/OneRamsWay/status/4297682971
hope he can sign on with someone else, possibly even the UFL
Go to ESPN.com...
Search for Larry Beavers...
Click his player card...
See where THEY say he went to school.
Great work ESPN.
Quote from: reality check on September 22, 2009, 11:52:47 PM
Go to ESPN.com...
Search for Larry Beavers...
Click his player card...
See where THEY say he went to school.
Great work ESPN.
its only 2 letters off. You would hope that their people would be better than that
Quote from: Toby Taff on September 23, 2009, 02:15:14 AMits only 2 letters off. You would hope that their people would be better than that
LMAO given the attention ESPN has [not] paid to D3 over the years.
That said I was surprised to see ESPN.com have a scoreboard with D3 games last weekend; of course, it was lumped together with D2 (why? how hard could it be to break out just D2 and D3?) and the scores were woefully incomplete.
Quote from: Ron Boerger on September 23, 2009, 10:03:38 AM
Quote from: Toby Taff on September 23, 2009, 02:15:14 AMits only 2 letters off. You would hope that their people would be better than that
LMAO given the attention ESPN has [not] paid to D3 over the years.
That said I was surprised to see ESPN.com have a scoreboard with D3 games last weekend; of course, it was lumped together with D2 (why? how hard could it be to break out just D2 and D3?) and the scores were woefully incomplete.
Ron, at least there is the occasional mention these days. I suppose you gotta start somewhere.
Quote from: Ron Boerger on September 23, 2009, 10:03:38 AM
Quote from: Toby Taff on September 23, 2009, 02:15:14 AMits only 2 letters off. You would hope that their people would be better than that
LMAO given the attention ESPN has [not] paid to D3 over the years.
That said I was surprised to see ESPN.com have a scoreboard with D3 games last weekend; of course, it was lumped together with D2 (why? how hard could it be to break out just D2 and D3?) and the scores were woefully incomplete.
Where was that?
It's an option in the regular college FB scoreboard (http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/scoreboard) -- where the pulldown is that lets you select top 25 or a conference, pull all the way down and you will see Div II/Div III.
Here is a direct link to last week's scores.
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/scoreboard?confId=35&seasonYear=2009&seasonType=2&weekNumber=3
I believe that Larry Beavers signed with Winnipeg in the CFL. I dont think that Carolina wanted him. He will hopefully find a place to fit in somewhere in the NFL.
Quote from: the waterboy on September 25, 2009, 10:42:23 PM
I believe that Larry Beavers signed with Winnipeg in the CFL. I dont think that Carolina wanted him. He will hopefully find a place to fit in somewhere in the NFL.
Nothing on the Blue Bombers website. According to
this article (http://www.nesn.com/2009/09/report-patriots-work-out-three-wide-receivers.html), the Patriots worked him out this week.
I am confident that if he signs anywhere that it will be posted on the Wesley Football and Athletic sites.
Jason Trusnik (ONU) nearly beheaded a Titans kick returner, stripped him in the process and recovered the football all in one play for the Jets early in the first quarter. Great start for JT!!!
that Garcon guy seems to be doing alright ;)
They're trying to kickstart a replacement Arena Football League, should give some D3 guys opportunities to play if they can make it work. "Arena Football 1", as it is known, will have 16 teams and is not related to the defunct AFL or the afl2. 2010 start ...
http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/afl/news/story?id=4512394&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines
http://www.oursportscentral.com/services/releases/?id=3910763
There is a full-page picture of Pierre Garçon making his TD grab against the Cards in the October 5th Sports Illustrated ... p32.
That is great publicity for D3. I have heard several times when Indy plays on TV that Pierre is from "D3 Mount Union".
Here is more publicity for Pierre and DIII football.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2009-10-01-the-bell-tolls_N.htm
Quote from: HSC85 on October 02, 2009, 01:56:37 PM
Here is more publicity for Pierre and DIII football.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2009-10-01-the-bell-tolls_N.htm
That's a good article
Jason Trusnik is the NFL Special Teams Player of the Week for Week 3...
Great article about his play here:
http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2009/10/jason_trusnik_goes_from_practi.html
Larry Beavers was at the Wesely game yesterday but unfortunately I didn't get a chance to talk with him about his pro tryouts.
Wesely's B. Robinson in the UFL
http://athletics.wesley.edu/sports/fball/2009-10/news/20091010_ufl
I had hoped the UFL would have a little more D-III representation but it looks like a LOT of Division I and former NFL retreads. But there are a couple D-III guys besides he aforementioned Bryan Robinson.
California Redwoods:
Whitworth's TE Micheal Allen
Wisc. LaCrosse's DB Jeremy Unertl
Florida Tiskers:
No D-III'ers
Las Vegas Locomotives:
No DIII'ers
New York Sentinels:
Gustavus Adolphus' WR Ryan Hoag
Colby's OT Daniel Oliphant
Wesley's DL Bryan Robinson
Nice interview with Jerheme Urban
http://www.azcardinals.com/photos-videos/videos/The-Way-I-See-It---Jerheme-Urban/737e7ab9-e6c2-4cb2-9d8c-fde8fca5e23c
Quote from: historymajor on October 15, 2009, 12:13:14 AM
Nice interview with Jerheme Urban
http://www.azcardinals.com/photos-videos/videos/The-Way-I-See-It---Jerheme-Urban/737e7ab9-e6c2-4cb2-9d8c-fde8fca5e23c
It is a nice interview - even if they blew a caption - says he attended "Division III Trinity in Dallas, Texas". :(
Wow, think of all the gas and travel time I would have saved IF Trinity were indeed in Dallas. Can I get some 'carbon-credits'?
Jason Trusnik got his first NFL start today with the Browns. He turned in a 4 tackle day with a sack. Good to see him getting more playing time since the trade to Cleveland.
He needs just 27 more sacks and 1130 tackles to be the all-time D-III alumnus leader.
Rumor has it that former Wesley WR Larry Beavers is working out for the Dallas Cowboys.
Fred Jackson of Coe had an excellent day returning punts and kickoffs for the Bills.
Congratulations to former Mississippi College wide receiver Jake Allen, he'll be suiting up for the Packers this weekend against the Vikings after being elevated from the practice squad today.
http://www.packers.com/news/releases/2009/10/27/3/
Quote from: Chris Brooks on October 27, 2009, 10:23:15 PM
Congratulations to former Mississippi College wide receiver Jake Allen, he'll be suiting up for the Packers this weekend against the Vikings after being elevated from the practice squad today.
http://www.packers.com/news/releases/2009/10/27/3/
More from JSOnline (http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/66722757.html). All in time for Brett's return to Lambeau :D ;) .
Quote from: BoBo on October 28, 2009, 12:10:07 AM
Quote from: Chris Brooks on October 27, 2009, 10:23:15 PM
Congratulations to former Mississippi College wide receiver Jake Allen, he'll be suiting up for the Packers this weekend against the Vikings after being elevated from the practice squad today.
http://www.packers.com/news/releases/2009/10/27/3/
More from JSOnline (http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/66722757.html). All in time for Brett's return to Lambeau :D ;) .
Congrats to Jake Allen...will be looking for him...
The above play by Justin Beaver along with 2007 Wabash MLB Pynenberg's stop at the goal line against DePauw are a couple of the best plays I have in my memory over the 10 years watching D3.
It's been a tough last few games for Jerheme Urban, but despite that (and some catcalls from the fan base wanting the Cards to elevate Early Doucet to Jerheme's spot), Coach Whisenhunt still has his back (http://blog.azcardinals.com/2009/11/05/whiz-praises-urban/).
Quote from: Ron Boerger on November 06, 2009, 09:58:16 AM
It's been a tough last few games for Jerheme Urban, but despite that (and some catcalls from the fan base wanting the Cards to elevate Early Doucet to Jerheme's spot), Coach Whisenhunt still has his back (http://blog.azcardinals.com/2009/11/05/whiz-praises-urban/).
"Catcalls" is putting it mildly. I checked out the Cardinals message board after the Carolina game last week and they were vicious in their disdain for Urban, although it must be said that there seemed to be only about 10 really vocal ones. It was almost as bad as the way folks around here were blasting Delhomme after the Buffalo game. Here's hoping things pick up for Urban the rest of the season.
Being in the PHX valley, I can say that the talk radio hasn't been all that brutal regarding Jerheme. It seems to be more a case of wanting to see whay Doucet can do since he was a high pick and is now healthy. Urban had 0 catches and only 1 target today while Doucet was used 3 times in quick screens. Both saw action because Boldin was a late scratch by the coaches.
Jamal Robertson was named Outstanding Offensive when the Argos handed out team awards. He finished as just the fifth 1000 yard rusher in Argos history. He ended up fifth in the CFL in total yards and second among RB's in receiving yards. Great season; his first season since NFL Europe starting an entire year as a team's feature back.
I've seen differing reports out of KC, but Mike Vrabel is either listed as questionable or probable deeping on the report. Either way that means Andy Studebaker will either be starting for the Chiefs or seeing more time this week.
Looks like Andy Studebaker did in fact start in place of an injured Vrabel. Andy recorded 6 total tackles, 5 solo along with a pass deflection.
Quote from: Mugsy on November 15, 2009, 08:58:56 PM
Looks like Andy Studebaker did in fact start in place of an injured Vrabel. Andy recorded 6 total tackles, 5 solo along with a pass deflection.
Good for Studebaker!
On the other side of the equation, Jerheme Urban recorded a DNP for the Cards today. Active but did not even see time on special teams, very odd considering ST ace Sean Morey was inactive.
Rough night for Garcon so far.
Jake Allen was waived (http://www.nfl.com/transactions) by the Green Bay Packers, but later picked up by the Cleveland Browns.
Quote from: BoBo on November 19, 2009, 06:41:34 AM
Jake Allen was waived (http://www.nfl.com/transactions) by the Green Bay Packers, but later picked up by the Cleveland Browns.
I think unemployed might be better than being in Cleveland right now.
Hmm, dunno about that. Even the first-year minimum is a substantial salary compared to what most of us make, and the Browns may give Jake the chance he needs to show what he can do.
From the KC Chiefs Website:
STUDEBAKER IN LINE TO START
November 20th – 12:34 PM
Just two weeks ago the Chiefs saw S DaJuan Morgan make his first career start. This Sunday, it appears LB Andy Studebaker will join that club as well. With LB Mike Vrabel (knee) doubtful to play against Pittsburgh, Studebaker took all practice reps this week. He is backed up by LB Justin Rogers, who is also banged up (thigh).
Studebaker played the majority of the second half last weekend in Oakland after Vrabel bowed out to injury. During Studebaker's time on the field he made several nice plays including four tackles and a pass breakup while he helped the defense pitch a second-half shutout. He also looked a bit raw at times as well.
"When he got the opportunity when Mike went down I thought that he wasn't perfect, but with that being said, for his first real action it did not appear to big for him," Haley said. "He knew what to do, he did it, he made some plays, he attacked it and I think that those are all good signs. He had a good week of practice and I think that he's very excited to get the opportunity to play a bit more."
Studebaker's action last Sunday was just his second time getting defensive snaps this season. The other action came during a two-play stint at Philadelphia. Vrabel essentially played every defensive snap this season up until his injury in Oakland and, with Studebaker's primary back-up also nicked up, the second-year player from NCAA Division III Wheaton College will likely be counted on to play each and every defensive snap on Sunday.
"It feels good to get into the game," Studebaker said. "You never like to see injuries happen and that kind of thing. I'm just looking forward to executing my role on the defense and preparing this whole week to get the job done on Sunday."
Quote from: Ron Boerger on November 19, 2009, 11:17:18 AM
Hmm, dunno about that. Even the first-year minimum is a substantial salary compared to what most of us make, and the Browns may give Jake the chance he needs to show what he can do.
I take it you haven't seen this year's Browns....i'd take the unemployment check
Quote from: PurpleSuit on November 21, 2009, 01:11:16 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on November 19, 2009, 11:17:18 AM
Hmm, dunno about that. Even the first-year minimum is a substantial salary compared to what most of us make, and the Browns may give Jake the chance he needs to show what he can do.
I take it you haven't seen this year's Browns....i'd take the unemployment check
Especially as a wide receiver. Trusnik at least plays defense. The Browns offense is absolutely wretched.
Andy Studebaker makes 3 tackles and has 2 interceptions in his first NFL start. The second INT was 2yds deep in the end zone and he returned in 94 yds to set up a KC fg. The Chiefs beat the steelers in OT. Way to go Andy!!
100+ yds receiving for Garcon today.
Saw Studebaker's first pick while getting takeout at BW3's and was the only guy in the place cheering it on (partly because there are entirely too many Steelers idiots and Chiefs fans don't exist)
Trusnik had 5 tackles today and forced a safety today for the Browns.
London Fletcher keeps on piling up stats with 13 tackles today in the Skins' loss to Dallas.
I hadn't seen Studebaker in quite a while. Is he BIGGER than before. It looked like he added about 20 lbs.
Quote from: retagent on November 22, 2009, 07:19:18 PM
I hadn't seen Studebaker in quite a while. Is he BIGGER than before. It looked like he added about 20 lbs.
They always look bigger on TV. He is actually lighter than his wheaton playing days by about 5 lbs. He is listed at 248lbs.
Video clip of Andy Studebaker's 94-yard Interception Return:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81463855/Andy-Studebaker-INT
I was at the Wash-Dallas game yesterday and Fletcher was amazing all day. They deserved to win that game.
For a more inclusive look at Studebaker's day, the NFL channel , for those who get it, is replaying the Steelers/Chiefs game at 8:30 Eastern tonight (11/24)
Quote from: retagent on November 24, 2009, 01:46:38 PM
For a ... look at Studebaker's day...
To be totally and brutally honest, even the most ardent D3 fans in the Pittsburgh area have seen enough of "Studebaker's day" thank you...
ONE VIEWING WAS MORE THAN I COULD STOMACH....
Seriously, good to see the boys from lil' ol' D3 showin' 'em how it's done.
Nice one-handed catch for TD by Garcon (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2009112903/2009/REG12/colts@texans#tab:watch) today.
sweet.
Andy Studebaker got a TD today after falling on a football in the end zone today and Jason Trusnik had 3 tackles to go along with a pass defended.
Quote from: reality check on December 20, 2009, 04:19:09 PM
Andy Studebaker got a TD today after falling on a football in the end zone today and Jason Trusnik had 3 tackles to go along with a pass defended.
And a 15-yard flag to boot! (Not for Trusnik)
Assuming Pierre Garcon finishes the year well for the Colts, 2010 will be a
very competitive year for WR's for the Colts. Gonzales will be back along with the starting group now.
A very good season for PG in his second NFL year! :)
Quote from: Raider 68 on December 27, 2009, 11:03:07 AM
Assuming Pierre Garcon finishes the year well for the Colts, 2010 will be a
very competitive year for WR's for the Colts. Gonzales will be back along with the starting group now.
A very good season for PG in his second NFL year! :)
Just saw that Garcon is out this week with a bruised hand.
London Fletcher is getting some well deserved attention on the Sunday Night game tonight.
Quote from: Joe Wally on December 27, 2009, 09:48:38 PM
London Fletcher is getting some well deserved attention on the Sunday Night game tonight.
He almost decapitated Patrick Crayton!
QuoteLondon Fletcher is getting some well deserved attention on the Sunday Night game tonight.
Fletcher got hosed again. Snubbed for Pro Bowl.
I understand Larry Beavers is now an Indianapolis Colt and I presume practice squad but hoping to get confirmation.
He isn't on the NFL's transaction list. The Colts picked up some other WR according to the list
He hasn't had the best of luck this year.. He had a shot to play in Canada but was asked to go to Dallas that week and the Canadian team with drew the offer. I thought he may end up bacl inCarolinna but they have made numerous moves at wR all year and haven't had him back
Looks like it's an invite to camp next year.
Quote from: D3_DPUFan on December 30, 2009, 11:01:56 AM
QuoteLondon Fletcher is getting some well deserved attention on the Sunday Night game tonight.
Fletcher got hosed again. Snubbed for Pro Bowl.
Extremely underappreciated. He's a tackling machine.
ABSOLUTELY.
I read on JCUSports.com that Fletcher was at least named to Sports Illustrated's All-Decade team for the 2000's so at least someone notices.
Pretty good year for D3 Alums in the league.
Fletcher continued to dominate. Garcon really made a leap from year one to year two. Studebaker and Trusnik got lots of PT and produced pretty well. Turk continued to boot the ball well in his 14th season. Urban lost time due to the emergence of Early Doucet in Arizona but he's still a solid veteran receiver and special teamer.
I think special mention needs to be made of Coe's Fred Jackson. Who even noticed that he eclipsed 1,000 yards on the season? I wonder if a D-III alum has ever accomplished such a thing before. He did it on 4.5 YPC too. He's a special talent that got a chance to shine this season.
And in the CFL, Jamal Robertson posted career bests as he was named Offensive MVP of his team (the Argos). He too cleared 1,000 yards on the year rushing (4.9 YPC) with almost 500 more receiving and 9 TD's.
I know I'm missing guys so feel free to add any other highlights you might know of.
D-III had quite a year in the pros; maybe the best yet???
Colts' Garcon concerned about relatives in Haiti.
http://www.indystar.com/article/20100113/SPORTS03/1140303/
Garçon has heard that some of his family members are OK, no word on others.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2009/news/story?id=4826112
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/After-week-spent-helping-Haiti-Pierre-Garcon-he?urn=nfl,214029
enough said.
Go Pierre Garçon and God Bless Haiti!
Quote from: Wydown Blvd. on January 17, 2010, 03:21:31 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/After-week-spent-helping-Haiti-Pierre-Garcon-he?urn=nfl,214029
enough said.
Go Pierre Garçon and God Bless Haiti!
That was a fantastic play and if you want to see more hustle, look at the next Ed Reed pick that was called back for pass interference. You see Garcon blowing through and around Colts to make the hit that stops Reed and then another Colt mops up and pushes Reed out of bounds.
QuoteThat was a fantastic play and if you want to see more hustle, look at the next Ed Reed pick that was called back for pass interference. You see Garcon blowing through and around Colts to make the hit that stops Reed and then another Colt mops up and pushes Reed out of bounds.
Yep...forcing the fumble was the play of the game. And you're right, we was in on that pick that was called back as well...had a great night.
Quote from: D3_DPUFan on January 17, 2010, 11:33:37 AM
QuoteThat was a fantastic play and if you want to see more hustle, look at the next Ed Reed pick that was called back for pass interference. You see Garcon blowing through and around Colts to make the hit that stops Reed and then another Colt mops up and pushes Reed out of bounds.
Yep...forcing the fumble was the play of the game. And you're right, we was in on that pick that was called back as well...had a great night.
I saw that second hustle play last night, but can't find it on video anywhere. Has anyone seen it on the net?
Quote from: kirasdad on January 17, 2010, 01:24:15 PM
Quote from: D3_DPUFan on January 17, 2010, 11:33:37 AM
QuoteThat was a fantastic play and if you want to see more hustle, look at the next Ed Reed pick that was called back for pass interference. You see Garcon blowing through and around Colts to make the hit that stops Reed and then another Colt mops up and pushes Reed out of bounds.
Yep...forcing the fumble was the play of the game. And you're right, we was in on that pick that was called back as well...had a great night.
I saw that second hustle play last night, but can't find it on video anywhere. Has anyone seen it on the net?
Hoping the Colts and Pierre can have a great game against the Jets! :)
QuoteHoping the Colts and Pierre can have a great game against the Jets!
Ditto. Jets won't be a walk over by any means. Colts D will have to slow Jets run game...their O line is amazing. Would be nice if the Colts could manufacture a little ground game of their own, too. Can't wait.
Nationally syndicated story on Pierre Garçon; saw it in my daily this AM. Covers his story from both the 'player out of nowhere' and the Haiti angles:
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/remarkable-feat-indianapolis-colts-pierre-garcon-no-longer-190051.html?cxtype=ynews_rss
A different kind of "D3 players in the pros": former Trinity (TX) safety Adam Zimmer ('02-'05) will be on the New Orleans sidelines (http://www.trinitytigers.com/sports/fball/2009-10/releases/01-23-10_zimmer) - as an assistant defensive coach. He's been with the Saints' coaching staff since 2006.
If the name seems familiar, dad Mike Zimmer is DC for the Bengals.
London Fletche ris a finalist for the Walter Payton NFL Man of the Year award. Winner will be announced Super Bowl Sunday.
Was at the game today.Garcon was...THE man. WOW.
London Fletcher was chosen as a replacement for Johnathan Vilma in the Pro Bowl.
Quote from: kirasdad on January 25, 2010, 11:15:41 AM
London Fletcher was chosen as a replacement for Johnathan Vilma in the Pro Bowl.
About damned time. Congrats to Fletcher.
Congrats too to Garçon, whose 11 catches yesterday set an AFC championship record!
RT @D3Football.com Executive editor Pat Coleman (and Mount Union coach Larry Kehres) will be on ESPN's Outside the Lines this afternoon at 3 ET/2 CT to discuss who else, Colts receiver Pierre Garcon. Pretty stoked!
Wheaton's Pete Ittersagen signs with the Toronto Argonauts for 2010 season. I was surprised this didn't happen sooner after being cut from the Jags. It seemed his best chance was to show what he could do at a professional level in the CFL before trying his hand at the NFL again.
Best of luck to Pete! Congrats!
http://athletics.wheaton.edu/news/2010/2/2/FB_pete_argos.aspx?path=football (http://athletics.wheaton.edu/news/2010/2/2/FB_pete_argos.aspx?path=football)
London Fletcher deserves alot more credit then he gets, hes a tackling machine.
And no disrespect to Bryan Waters but I was really hoping that London would be named Walter Payton Man of the Year before kickoff of the SB.
Jerheme Urban was not tendered an offer and is now an unrestricted free agent.
ESPN's Adam Schefter tweets that Jerheme was signed by the Chiefs (http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter/status/10310592763) - where he'll re-unite with head coach Todd Haley, who was his OC in Arizona.
Jamal Robertson Signs with the BC Lions:
http://www.edmontonsun.com/sports/football/2010/03/22/13325571.html
Good article on Andy Studebaker in Chicago Sun-Times about his atypical offseason activities.
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/jensen/2119470,CST-SPT-sean24.article (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/jensen/2119470,CST-SPT-sean24.article)
As I'm posting this, the Utah Blaze are playing the Milwaukee Iron, with Brett Elliott at QB for the Blaze in an Arena Football game on NHL Network.
Indianapolis Colts sign former Wheaton College DB Pete Ittersagen to free agent contract.
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Colts-sign-three-players.html (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Colts-sign-three-players.html)
Quote from: Mugsy on May 19, 2010, 03:47:27 PM
Indianapolis Colts sign former Wheaton College DB Pete Ittersagen to free agent contract.
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Colts-sign-three-players.html (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Colts-sign-three-players.html)
I asked this on the CCIW board, but here might have a broader audience.
I know nothing about the Colts' defensive backfield - anyone have insight on his chances?
It appeared that they had problems stopping the pass, but I don't recall whether it was because of a lack of a rush, or weakness in the "D" backfield.
Nice article in today's Kansas City Star: Chiefs wide receiver Jerheme Urban trying to finally catch on (http://www.kansascity.com/2010/06/07/2000268/chiefs-wide-receiver-jerheme-urban.html).
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on May 19, 2010, 04:25:07 PM
Quote from: Mugsy on May 19, 2010, 03:47:27 PM
Indianapolis Colts sign former Wheaton College DB Pete Ittersagen to free agent contract.
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Colts-sign-three-players.html (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Colts-sign-three-players.html)
I asked this on the CCIW board, but here might have a broader audience.
I know nothing about the Colts' defensive backfield - anyone have insight on his chances?
I don't know much about the Colt's defensive backfield and I don't think you need to know much to understand Pete's chances. He will make it if he can show the ability to be a quality backup and special teams impact player. He may get a chance in the return game as well. He won't be projected as a starter obviously. The main way he will show his value is if he is able to consistently make plays during training camp and in the preseason.
Great interview of Andy Studebaker after minicamp by several reporters. He sounds like the head coach.
http://www.kcchiefs.com/media-center/videos/Inside-the-Locker-Room-Andy-Studebaker/c644b3e2-4d98-4bff-83d3-14ce30914a7b
Quote from: USee on June 13, 2010, 09:53:42 AM
Great interview of Andy Studebaker after minicamp by several reporters. He sounds like the head coach.
http://www.kcchiefs.com/media-center/videos/Inside-the-Locker-Room-Andy-Studebaker/c644b3e2-4d98-4bff-83d3-14ce30914a7b
He plays 3-4 seasons of pro ball.
Gets cut when the younger players are faster/quicker than his brains can overcome.
Gets moved upstairs into a coaching job.
Becomes a defensive coordinator by the time he is 35.
Another comment from KC Chiefs head coach (Haley) about Andy following the close of the mini-camp:
QuoteAndy Studebaker is someone I knew nothing about before I got here but this kid has a chance. He has put himself in a position through work to give himself an opportunity to push the guys ahead of him. I have told Andy a bunch of times, 'don't you assume that you can't be number one. You need to be pushing because who is to say that you can't do it?' That is his mindset and he has a great mentor in Mike (Vrabel) that he follows around non-stop. When you are a coach and you see those kinds of things happening, they are working and talking all the time not just out on the field. You can catch them walking through the locker room talking about something. That means teaching is going on and older guys are trying to get younger guys that may even be their replacement potentially, they could beat them out and they are still working with them. That is when you know you have a chance to be a team and a team that can continually develop.
Better news for Jerheme Urban after the end of OTAs:
http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article-2/Insider-Blog-First-Steps-For-September/f15f3065-6474-4d1e-a01e-1512b507fc06
Before OTAs: An addition via unrestricted free agency, Urban was in line to compete for an opportunity of everyday offensive work for the first time in his six-year career.
During OTAs: Urban had a lousy first week of practice. He dropped passes and, self-admittedly, was trying to do too much on the field. After Memorial Day, however, something clicked. Urban came back like a new man, catching pass after pass and finding the end zone on a consistent basis. In the process, he became a favorite of Matt Cassel on mid-level routes.
After OTAs: Urban looks to be in line for the most extensive action of his career. If he's not in the Chiefs game plan once the regular season rolls around, something will have to take a downturn in training camp and/or the preseason. Urban left OTAs as one of the Chiefs most reliable targets.
Haley Says: "I think he gets pigeon-holed in this possession-type role, at least some of the things I've heard or even talking to him. What Jerheme can do is run. He's big and fast and can stretch the field and you can't have enough of those guys and he's a guy at least he's proven to me that he'll do anything asked of him on special teams to give him a chance to help us."
ONU alums JR Cipra and Jamal Robertson continue their pro careers...
Cipra is in the playoffs as a kicker for the Baltimore Mariners and just finished a 14-0 regular season including a week 12 win in which he kicked a 47 yarder to win with no time left on the clock.
Robertson had two scores in the BC Lions' first preseason game after moving over from Toronto in the off-season. CFL regular season starts next week.
Kansas City D3 updates:
Photos of both Andy Studebaker and Jerheme Urban in this montage of photos from KC's Monday training camp (http://www.kansascity.com/2010/08/02/2123291/chiefs-training-camp-hot-monday.html).
This article (http://www.thenewstribune.com/2010/08/03/1288549/chiefs-camp-buzz-defensive-lineup.html) says Studebaker may be moved into the starting lineup at OLB and that Urban seems to have recovered from a shot that laid him out for several minutes on Monday.
[edited to fix second link]
Wheaton alum Pete Ittersagen signed free agent contract from Colts to Titans.
Video with a few comments about Pete (about a minute into the clip):
http://www.titansonline.com/media-center/videos/Head-Coach-Jeff-Fisher/7b24d582-73b2-439c-a936-fe5541abd17a (http://www.titansonline.com/media-center/videos/Head-Coach-Jeff-Fisher/7b24d582-73b2-439c-a936-fe5541abd17a)
Larry Beavers of Wesley College is now trying to win a roster spot with the Saints. Apparently hes doing well.
Update from Titan's camp yesterday regarding Wheaton alum Pete Ittersagen:
Quote• Cornerback Pete Ittersagen showed some agility with a diving, one-handed pass breakup in the end zone on a ball thrown by Kerry Collins.
Hey Reality Check, did you forget somebody??
LB Jason Trusnik Living the Dream in Cleveland (http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2010/5/21/1482715/lb-jason-trusnik-living-the-dream)
If the dream occurs in Cleveland, it must be a nightmare.
Wesley's Larry Beavers Scores a TD for N.O. Saints Vs.NE Pat 97 yrd Ko return!
Quote from: frank uible on August 12, 2010, 09:58:37 PM
If the dream occurs in Cleveland, it must be a nightmare.
Is 'frank uible' actually the
nom de post for LeBron James?! :o
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on August 12, 2010, 11:20:49 PM
Quote from: frank uible on August 12, 2010, 09:58:37 PM
If the dream occurs in Cleveland, it must be a nightmare.
Is 'frank uible' actually the nom de post for LeBron James?! :o
Since we're talking football, more likely to be Art Modell. ;)
Former UMHB Crusader Jerrell Freeman is tied for the team lead in sacks for the Saskatchewan Roughriders after a having a 3 sack game against the BC Lions August 12th
Pete Ittersagen had 4 solo tackles for the Titans last night in a 20-18 loss. He received extensive playing time due to 2 other CB's being scratched due to injury.
Pete made the best of the opportunity. Playing time in live games is critical for any chance to catch on as a D3 CB in the NFL.
From KC Chiefs camp, press conf w head coach Todd Haley
Q: What about LB Andy Studebaker, he seemed to have a good day?
HALEY: "I believe that young group of developing players I was overall encouraged with and he's clearly one of those guys that has come a long way and I think it was hard not to notice him in a lot of different areas. He's worked real hard to put himself in a position to have some success and I think some of that showed up. I'm excited about the direction Andy is going."
And from the Titans website:
Off the field Q&A with Pete Ittersagen
What is your favorite thing about Nashville?
"Definitely the people. So far they are really welcoming and friendly. It seems like a close knit group of people."
How did you spend your offseason?
"I spent a lot of time with my family and friends. Also I played a lot of golf on courses back home in Chicago."
What are your hobbies off the field?"I do a lot of things in the community with a local church. I try to give back by investing in the kids. I also love to play pickup basketball whenever there is a game."
What are your plans after football?
"Hopefully to continue to do something that I love to do. With that, hopefully make a difference in people's lives at the same time."
Who was a role model for you growing up?
"My dad and my older brother. Obviously an older brother is someone always to look up to. My dad was someone who I saw live as a Godly man and I really want to live my life in the same way."
Who is your favorite athlete in another sport?
"I'm a big NBA fan. Being from Chicago, I'd have to say Derrick Rose."
If you would be on any reality show, which one would you choose?
"I'd definitely be on The Bachelor. Since I'm single, it might help the process of finding someone to date.
Last movie you saw in theaters?
"Inception. I thought it was good, but not as good as everyone hyped it up to be."
Who is the best player in history at your position?
"I'd probably say Deion Sanders. I grew up watching him play. I also enjoy watching old highlights of Herm Edwards."
This would be more "D-3 players coaching in the pros," but fun nonetheless:
http://chiefsblog.kansascity.com/?q=node/1389
Turns out the Chiefs were having a little fun with one of their offensive assistant coaches. They convinced Nick Sirianni, a former wide receiver in college [Mt Union], that they would need him as a quarterback in practice.
So they found a yellow quarterback's practice jersey in their equipment stash and Sirianni dressed for practice, pads, jersey, helmet and all.
Of course, the Chiefs never practiced but went to the movies instead.
''Once we figured out what we were doing this morning, we had a good practical joke and figured it was a also the time for that.'' coach Todd Haley said. ''Somehow, we convinced him that he was actually going to be in practice and somehow, he actually believed us and he actually put the uniform on. But we did not have a practice so I figured it would be the day to have a little fun.''
Interesting article in the Kansas City Star about Andy Studebaker
www.kansascity.com/2010/08/17/2157551/chiefs-studebaker-putting-himself.html (http://www.kansascity.com/2010/08/17/2157551/chiefs-studebaker-putting-himself.html)
It is not the NFL, but former Mary Hardin-Baylor linebacker Jerrell Freeman was named Defensive Player of the Week in the Canadian Football League this week. He is playing for Saskatchewan and had three sacks in a victory over the BC Lions. There is an interview with him on the UMHB athletic department youtube channel.
Yet another good article on Andy Studebaker... really positive outlook.
http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article-2/The-Next-Step/3ca144d9-9b90-4207-9859-6dca82477a8d (http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article-2/The-Next-Step/3ca144d9-9b90-4207-9859-6dca82477a8d)
In a bit of a detour - but nonetheless in keeping with the overall topic...............
I just returned from a trip to Michigan where we played golf, and also saw two Lansing Lugnuts(Toronto Blue Jays)/Southbend Siverhawks(Arizona Diamondbacks) baseball games in Lansing. On the second night, Derek Eitel was brought in to pitch for the Silverhawks. Eitel, a Rose-Hulman grad, who played some QB, and set school records was drafted by the Diamondbacks, and was recently sent to the Silverhawks, in the Class A, Midwest League. Eitel pitched five innings, giving up but one run. The run scored on a bases loaded hopper to the left side that the third baseman misplayed. It was originally (and rightly, IMHO) ruled an error, and would have been an unearned run, but was later credited as a hit. Eitel pitched out of a couple jams and showed good poise and pop on his pitches, and changed speeds effectively. He earned the win in a 4 - 2 game.
Posted by USee on CCIW board:
QuoteAndy Studebaker had 2 sacks and a hurry in the 1st half last night vs the Eagles 1st team offense. He looked really impressive and Chiefs nation is rallying around his eneregy and personality in a big way. What I thought was more impressive is when rookie LB Cameron Sheffield suffered an apparent neck injury, They showed the entire Chiefs team kneeling on the field in prayer led by Andy! This is a tradition Wheaton players have done every game for an injured player and its great to see Studie bring it to the NFL.
Lot's of praise and high expectations for Andy in KC this year. He is running with the 1st team nickel defense with Vrabel on the inside and Andy as a rush LB. He is poised to have a breakout year.
Update from Chiefs camp on Andy Studebaker:
QuoteWith Tamba Hali out of practice, Andy Studebaker ran opposite Mike Vrabel with the first-team. Studebaker typically backs up Vrabel at the left outside linebacker position, but Vrabel moved to the right side in Hali's absence.
Kinda what I thought would happen. Top 2 CB's for the Titans returned to the active roster recently, which means...
Pete Ittersagen was cut today from the Titans.
QuoteNASHVILLE, Tenn. -- The Tennessee Titans waived the following players today: P Ricky Schmitt, CB Pete Ittersagen, LB Mike Rivera (injured), DT Kareem Brown (injured) and WR Bobby Sewall.
The Titans must trim their roster to the NFL-mandated limit of 53 players by Sunday afternoon.
Any prospects this year in D-III that might have a shot at the NFL?
Quote from: RedmenFB44 on September 01, 2010, 09:06:12 PM
Any prospects this year in D-III that might have a shot at the NFL?
Two jump to mind immediately (there may be more): Cecil Shorts from MUC (UMU? MTU? whatever they currently are! :P) and Jered Jenkins of UWSP (see story in Kickoff).
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 03, 2010, 11:54:24 AM
RT @D3Football.com Executive editor Pat Coleman (and Mount Union coach Larry Kehres) will be on ESPN's Outside the Lines this afternoon at 3 ET/2 CT to discuss who else, Colts receiver Pierre Garcon. Pretty stoked!
This just reminded me, I have to watch this before my DVR deletes it. The MUC-Wesley game vanished recently :D
Andy Studebaker is officially part of the 53 man roster for the KC Chiefs. Jerheme Urban placed on injured reserve.
Just posted over on the CCIW board regarding Pete Ittersagen (Wheaton).
Quote from: USee on September 04, 2010, 11:55:26 PM
Ittersagen was signed to the Titans practice squad today. Excellent news for him and d3. Good luck pete
Awesome news! Congrats to Pete.
Pete really benefited from additional playing time due to injuries to the guys in front of him. But... he did it. He made the most of it and made the coaches notice.
Wonder if the Titan's played some "mind games" with the rest of the NFL teams since Pete was released a week before the final cuts. Perception given to other NFL teams... D3 undrafted CB cut from Titans... yawn! Meanwhile the Titans knew they would bring him back?
I have to ask... has there ever been two players in the NFL from the same D3 school during the same year?
Of all the crappy injuries to cost you a season in the NFL, this has to be the most ridiculous:
http://www.victoriaadvocate.com/news/2010/sep/04/mf_urban_090510_109945/
Urban tore the flexor tender in his ring finger on his right hand during Thursday night's preseason game against the Green Bay Packers.
Man.
Jerrell Freeman (UMHB) currently leads the Saskatchewan Roughriders in sacks and is second on the team in special teams tackles.
Quote from: Toby Taff on September 06, 2010, 05:19:39 AM
Jerrell Freeman (UMHB) currently leads the Saskatchewan Roughriders in sacks and is second on the team in special teams tackles.
That's great news Toby...when the RR's cut Justin Beaver, I sort of lost interest in following them. I'm glad he's playing so well!!
Urban's surgery was successful (http://www.myvictoriaonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6100:urban-has-successful-surgery&catid=62:home-stories&Itemid=87). Good luck with the rehab, Jerheme.
The Eagles signed former UW-River Falls, West Virgina and Seahawks fullback Owen Schmitt.
Schmitt, a fifth-round draft choice by Seattle in 2008, played in 30 games with the Seahawks. He caught 12 passes for 50 yards and one touchdown, and carried five times for 21 yards. Schmitt was released on Sept. 6.
Andy Studebaker just recieved a contract extension from the KC Chiefs, terms undisclosed
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/NFL-news-rumors-trades-injuries-transactions
Wesley Larry Beavers has made his way to Canada... He has been signed with the BC Lions.
Pete Ittersagen (alum from Wheaton College) has been placed on the 53 man active roster for the Titans.
http://athletics.wheaton.edu/news/2010/12/16/FB_active_pete.aspx?path=football
So question... with Andy Studebaker playing for the Chiefs, is this the first time there have been 2 active NFL players from the same D3 school?
Certainly not if one counts periods before the creation of d3.
Upon reflection it is recalled that there were 3 Amherst guys at the same time in the 70s on NFL rosters after the creation of d3 - Fugett, Clancy, Scott.
UWW had Stanley (Rams) And Turk (Texans) two years ago
Thanks for the info guys. Just an honest question... obviously not as rare as I thought. I know there have been instances of 1 player on the active roster and another on the PS.
frank uible, my historical reference only goes back to the early 80's.
kubiack, I knew about Stanley, but failed to recall Turk.
I'm so old that I remember when Otto Graham played starting S in the same pro games as those in which he played starting QB.
PLAYERS FROM SAME DIVISION III SCHOOL ON NFL ROSTERS AT THE SAME TIME*
Alma Mater | Years | Players – NFL Teams |
Amherst | 1972-73 | Doug Swift '70 (Dolphins) & Jean Fugett '72 (Cowboys) |
St. Norbert | 1974 | Larry Krause '70 (Packers) & Ted Fritsch, Jr. '72 (Falcons) |
Amherst | 1974-75 | Doug Swift '70 (Dolphins); Jean Fugett '72 (Cowboys) & Freddie Scott '74 (Colts) |
Widener | 1975-87 | Joe Fields (Jets) & Billy "White Shoes" Johnson (Oilers, 74-80) and Falcons (82-87) |
Amherst | 1976-77 | Jean Fugett '72 (Redskins) & Freddie Scott '74 (Colts) |
Amherst | 1978-79 | Jean Fugett '72 (Redskins); Freddie Scott '74 (Lions) & Sean Clancy '78 (Dolphins) |
St. Thomas | 1986-88 | Jim Gustafson (Vikings) & Neal Guggemos (Vikings, 86-87) and Giants (88) |
UW-Whitewater | 2007-08 | Matt Turk (Texans) & Derek Stanley(Rams) |
Wheaton | 2010 | Andy Studebaker '08 (Chiefs) & Pete Ittersagen '08 (Titans) |
PLAYERS FROM SAME DIVISION III SCHOOL VERSUS EACH OTHER IN SAME NFL GAME*
Alma Mater | Year | NFL Game (Players) |
Amherst | 1973 | Dolphins (Doug Swift) vs. Cowboys (Jean Fugett) |
Amherst | 1974 | Dolphins (Doug Swift) vs. Colts (Freddie Scott) |
Amherst | 1974 | Dolphins (Doug Swift) vs. Colts (Freddie Scott) |
St. Norbert | 1974 | Packers (Larry Krause) vs. Falcons (Ted Fritsch, Jr.) |
Amherst | 1977 | Redskins (Jean Fugett) vs. Colts (Freddie Scott) |
Widener | 1977 | Jets (Joe Fields) vs. Oilers (Billy "White Shoes" Johnson) |
Amherst | 1978 | Redskins (Jean Fugett) vs. Lions (Freddie Scott) |
Amherst | 1978 | Redskins (Jean Fugett) vs. Dolphins (Sean Clancy) |
Widener | 1979 | Jets (Joe Fields) vs. Oilers (Billy "White Shoes" Johnson) |
Amherst | 1979 | Redskins (Jean Fugett) vs. Lions (Freddie Scott) |
Amherst | 1979 | Redskins (Jean Fugett) vs. Cardinals (Sean Clancy) |
Widener | 1980 | Jets (Joe Fields) vs. Oilers (Billy "White Shoes" Johnson) |
Widener | 1983 | Jets (Joe Fields) vs. Falcons (Billy "White Shoes" Johnson) |
Widener | 1986 | Jets (Joe Fields) vs. Falcons (Billy "White Shoes" Johnson) |
Wheaton | 2010 | Titans (Pete Ittersagen) vs. Chiefs (Andy Studebaker) |
Jim Ostendarp had, among other virtues, a great ability to recruit, did he not?
Quote from: frank uible on December 27, 2010, 10:30:37 PM
Jim Ostendarp had, among other virtues, a great ability to recruit, did he not?
I'll say...
Quote from: Mugsy on September 05, 2010, 12:07:23 AM
I have to ask... has there ever been two players in the NFL from the same D3 school during the same year?
Recent article about two players (Studebaker and Ittersagen) from same DIII team (Wheaton) facing each other in NFL game
http://www.ncaasports.com/news/football/2010-12-28/division-iii-players-meet-again (http://www.ncaasports.com/news/football/2010-12-28/division-iii-players-meet-again)
Mugsy, I have to point out the same thing that gets pointed out to me everytime I mentioned Matt Turk. White-water was not a D-III school at the time, they were still NAIA. Just for accuracies sake.
Quote from: Knightstalker on December 29, 2010, 08:30:23 PM
Mugsy, I have to point out the same thing that gets pointed out to me everytime I mentioned Matt Turk. White-water was not a D-III school at the time, they were still NAIA. Just for accuracies sake.
Not correct Knightstalker...UWW has been a member of the NCAA since 1981, well before Matt Turk's playing days at Whitewater. For reference, see page 218 of the UWW 2010 Media Guide (http://www.uwwsports.com/documents/2010/9/7/2010OnlineMediaGuideupdated.pdf).
Quote from: BoBo on December 30, 2010, 01:57:30 AM
Quote from: Knightstalker on December 29, 2010, 08:30:23 PM
Mugsy, I have to point out the same thing that gets pointed out to me everytime I mentioned Matt Turk. White-water was not a D-III school at the time, they were still NAIA. Just for accuracies sake.
Not correct Knightstalker...UWW has been a member of the NCAA since 1981, well before Matt Turk's playing days at Whitewater. For reference, see page 218 of the UWW 2010 Media Guide (http://www.uwwsports.com/documents/2010/9/7/2010OnlineMediaGuideupdated.pdf).
That may have been the time period when some WIAC teams had dual membership between the NCAA and the NAIA...possibly
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on December 30, 2010, 10:54:51 AM
Quote from: BoBo on December 30, 2010, 01:57:30 AM
Quote from: Knightstalker on December 29, 2010, 08:30:23 PM
Mugsy, I have to point out the same thing that gets pointed out to me everytime I mentioned Matt Turk. White-water was not a D-III school at the time, they were still NAIA. Just for accuracies sake.
Not correct Knightstalker...UWW has been a member of the NCAA since 1981, well before Matt Turk's playing days at Whitewater. For reference, see page 218 of the UWW 2010 Media Guide (http://www.uwwsports.com/documents/2010/9/7/2010OnlineMediaGuideupdated.pdf).
That may have been the time period when some WIAC teams had dual membership between the NCAA and the NAIA...possibly
Just going by what was posted after I posted that Matt Turk was a d3 player years ago, before the boards changed. I think it was due to the dual nature of the WIAC at the time Turk graduated.
Looking through the rosters of the NEW AFL indoor league there is quite a few fromer D III players listed ... Good to see that some of the playerfs are getting a chance to play on even if it is at that level
Quote from: hoopstermom on December 29, 2010, 05:33:23 PM
Quote from: Mugsy on September 05, 2010, 12:07:23 AM
I have to ask... has there ever been two players in the NFL from the same D3 school during the same year?
Recent article about two players (Studebaker and Ittersagen) from same DIII team (Wheaton) facing each other in NFL game
http://www.ncaasports.com/news/football/2010-12-28/division-iii-players-meet-again (http://www.ncaasports.com/news/football/2010-12-28/division-iii-players-meet-again)
Isn't this the one that's on the front page of D3football.com?
Pat, why yes it is! Although when I saw in on NCAA site while looking up D 1 info, I thought it would be good to point out it was posted in another location for others to see that may not otherwise ever go to d3football.com.
Thanks, although I would hope that most anyone posting on the D3boards football boards also goes to our football site on a fairly regular basis. :)
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 31, 2010, 01:43:46 PM
Looking through the rosters of the NEW AFL indoor league there is quite a few fromer D III players listed ... Good to see that some of the playerfs are getting a chance to play on even if it is at that level
Team: Player: Position: D3 School:
AFL--Dallas Matt Fields WR Hardin-Simmmons
AFL-Cleveland John Denny K Carthage
AFL- Iowa Larry Beavers WR Wesley
AFL-Iowa Jesse Schmidt WR Buena Vista
(Fields caught several TD passes in a win over Tulsa today-Iowa and Cleveland both play their opening games tonight-Cleveland out on the West Coast-)
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on March 19, 2011, 04:12:07 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 31, 2010, 01:43:46 PM
Looking through the rosters of the NEW AFL indoor league there is quite a few fromer D III players listed ... Good to see that some of the playerfs are getting a chance to play on even if it is at that level
Team: Player: Position: D3 School:
AFL--Dallas Matt Fields WR Hardin-Simmmons
AFL-Cleveland John Denny K Carthage
AFL- Iowa Larry Beavers WR Wesley
AFL-Iowa Jesse Schmidt WR Buena Vista
(Fields caught several TD passes in a win over Tulsa today-Iowa and Cleveland both play their opening games tonight-Cleveland out on the West Coast-)
AFL--Georgia Brett Elliott QB Linfield College 2nd in the league in passing yards and 3rd in TD passes
The SIFL, CIFL and the IFL are all loaded with ex D-3 standouts. Though regarded at lesser when compared to the AFL, the three leagues are all still professional ball with some top college talents.
AFL Cleveland QB Kurt Rocco Mount Union
Kurt Rocco (http://www.clevelandgladiators.com/team/roster/?player_id=280)
Not sure if anyone else posted this, but Mackenzie McGrady (Alma '10 - QB) played football in Finland this past season....
(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.europlayers.com%2FPic%2F1_1_12224_1.jpg%3F080710074014&hash=de8eec77825cd02b0c3c045bf92ae0a59d38c223)
(#7)
10 GP. 136/248 23 TD 4 int for 2082 yards. Also ran for 469 yards.
Full stats here: http://www.sajl.org/vaahteraliiga/2010/rr.htm#team.ind (http://www.sajl.org/vaahteraliiga/2010/rr.htm#team.ind)
Not sure whether anyone has cited the following website/database (if so, please ignore my ignorance) but Pep found it most interesting. It lists all of the colleges where NFL players attended....
Pep has posted those E8 and LL colleges that have had NFL players and shares that info here. But any of the links leads you to the website where one can then check their own college. Enjoy!
Found an invaluable website/database that lists the colleges that NFL players attended. There are THREE former Saxons who played in the NFL, two more than Pep had previously known about. Here are all the NFL players who had attended current Empire 8 and Liberty League colleges:
http://www.databasefootball.com/players/bycollege.htm?sch=Alfred+University
http://www.databasefootball.com/players/bycollege.htm?sch=Ithaca+College
http://www.databasefootball.com/players/bycollege.htm?sch=Frostburg+State+University
http://www.databasefootball.com/players/bycollege.htm?sch=Springfield+College
http://www.databasefootball.com/players/bycollege.htm?sch=St.+Lawrence+University
http://www.databasefootball.com/players/bycollege.htm?sch=Union+College%2C+Schenectady%2C+NY
http://www.databasefootball.com/players/bycollege.htm?sch=University+of+Rochester
http://www.databasefootball.com/players/bycollege.htm?sch=Hobart+College
Colleges not listed did not have any NFL players among those attending said institution.
Just something to ponder while waiting for pre-season camp....and BAND CAMP '11!
On Saxon Warriors!
Need a break and with the CFL pre-season kicking off this coming week, I took a look at the current rosters for D-III alums...
BC Lions:
Jamal Robertson - ONU - RB
Calgary Stampeders:
Jake Allen - Mississippi College - WR
Edmonton Eskimos:
Larry Beavers - Wesley - KR
Saskatchewan Roughriders:
Jerrell Freeman - UMHB - LB
Toronto Argonauts:
Jeremy Unertl - UWLax - LB
Todd Lowber - Ramapo - WR (did not play football in college but Ramapo is a D-III basketball school)
Winnepeg Blue Bombers:
Justin Goltz - Occidental - QB
Interview of Andy Studebaker from Chiefs camp. Quite a different year for him with Vrabel's retirement. Andy now seen as a veteran...
http://www.kcchiefs.com/media-center/videos/Training-Camp-1-on-1-with-Andy-Studebaker/52d8a500-0544-4a6b-8911-24c2f794be89 (http://www.kcchiefs.com/media-center/videos/Training-Camp-1-on-1-with-Andy-Studebaker/52d8a500-0544-4a6b-8911-24c2f794be89)
Speaking of the Chiefs, Jerheme Urban has apparently performed well enough in camp to be named the #2 WR for this weekend's opener against the Bucs. That's pretty surprising given that he was out with an injury all last season, and with KC signing Steve Breaston a couple of weeks ago. Good luck to Jerheme!
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2011/8/9/2352951/kansas-city-chiefs-depth-chart
Quote from: Ron Boerger on August 09, 2011, 09:05:35 AM
Speaking of the Chiefs, Jerheme Urban has apparently performed well enough in camp to be named the #2 WR for this weekend's opener against the Bucs. That's pretty surprising given that he was out with an injury all last season, and with KC signing Steve Breaston a couple of weeks ago. Good luck to Jerheme!
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2011/8/9/2352951/kansas-city-chiefs-depth-chart
Studebaker's holding down the starting spot at OLB as well right now.
Here's to the DIII boys keeping up the good work.
+1, hazzben. ;)
Excerpts from Todd Haley's Tuesday Q&A (http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article-2/QA-with-Todd-Haley-89/35a36f68-7800-4848-ad47-9c7474cdf5c2):
Q: Is Jerheme Urban bringing you what you had hoped to see last year?
HALEY: "... He's a guy that each and every year, I've seen improvement from. I haven't seen the arrow flatten out or start down, which is a good sign. Last year was disappointing for him and for us, because he had worked so hard and had an injury that didn't allow him to continue. But he helped us coach out there and was actively involved. He's been chomping at the bit, he's worked really hard to be out there; put himself in a position to compete and have a chance to help us get better and that's what he's doing. I'm encouraged with him and the entire receiver group. I've seen good progress out of here as we've started through the first week and a half."
Q: What is his skill set that you like? Was his injury just bad timing?
HALEY: "... This year, you're asking about what he offers us, he's a big-strong guy that understands his role, whatever that is. Meaning if we're running the ball, he's going to be one of our better blockers. If we're throwing the ball, he gives us another vertical threat. He's somehow been labeled, it's probably our fault in Arizona, because we had him inside a bunch just by what we had there and how we had to organize the group, so he got labeled as more of a possession guy, but he's a vertical threat. He can run. He can run, and he's been excellent from a leadership standpoint in that room specifically. He's competing right now and that, in turn, is helping make everybody better and we have to see how it plays out."
^ Excellent. That's some really high praise coming from a coach like Haley. He doesn't exactly dole it out.
Pete Ittersagen had 4 tackles and a sack for the Titans last night. He started the 2nd half.
Looks like Tyler Beiler has gotten picked up by the Jags for their practice squad.
News release (http://www.jaguars.com/news/article.aspx?id=10443)
After being a starter all preseason, Jerheme Urban has been demoted behind Steve Breaston at the #2 WR spot. :(
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2011/9/6/2407808/kansas-city-chiefs-depth-chart
You gotta love Coe's Fred Jackson being the leading rusher in the NFL right now.
London Fletcher (John Carrol) is still a beast in the NFL..... I think he is as good today as he has ever been. Just had a great tackle on MNF for the Redskins.
London Fletcher is an NFL freak - ordinarily his being both much too short for an NFL LB and at the same time having a D3 background would have absolutely disqualified him from getting any chance coming out of college.
Quote from: hazzben on August 10, 2011, 07:40:20 PM
^ Excellent. That's some really high praise coming from a coach like Haley. He doesn't exactly dole it out.
Haley loves Urban. I think when I wrote about him and Trusnik a couple years ago it basically became clear that everywhere Haley's gone (Dallas, Arizona, KC) he brings Jehreme with him.
I think he likes having a humble worker type set the tone even for the guys with more talent. Haley can point to Jerheme running after practice and tell Second Round Pick X from BCS School "that's why you suck. If you worked as hard as him, you'd be good."
Quote from: K-Mack on September 27, 2011, 08:48:08 PM
Quote from: hazzben on August 10, 2011, 07:40:20 PM
^ Excellent. That's some really high praise coming from a coach like Haley. He doesn't exactly dole it out.
Haley loves Urban. I think when I wrote about him and Trusnik a couple years ago it basically became clear that everywhere Haley's gone (Dallas, Arizona, KC) he brings Jehreme with him.
I think he likes having a humble worker type set the tone even for the guys with more talent. Haley can point to Jerheme running after practice and tell Second Round Pick X from BCS School "that's why you suck. If you worked as hard as him, you'd be good."
Unfortunately, after being demoted to second string behind Breaston before the start of the season and netting one catch in three weeks, Urban was on the inactive list Sunday in favor of some rookie recently promoted from the practice squad. :-(
A couple items from the Flem File (http://espn.go.com/espn/page2/story/_/page/fleming-111103/flem-file-chock-full-stories-halfway-nfl-season) from David Fleming on ESPN:
"HALFWAY TO MVP -- Aaron Rodgers, Calvin Johnson, Charles Woodson, Peyton Manning's neck, and my new all-time favorite back and D-III Coe College alum Fred Jackson, who has given new hope to every 5-foot-8, 185-pound second-stringer in high school.
and
"HALF THE RESPECT IT DESERVES -- RB Fred Jackson and LB London Fletcher are both products of D-III college programs, ..."
Jerheme Urban, buried on the inactive list nearly all year, gets a mention today for imitating Tim Tebow in KC's preparations for their next game against Denver. I'm sure he's happy to have something to do for a change. >:(
http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2011-11-09/kansas-city-chiefs-team-report-wideout-imitates-tebow-in-practice
Jerheme sighting on MNF just now.
I'm sure if I'd been watching I'd have seen Studebaker too.
Quote from: K-Mack on November 21, 2011, 10:42:34 PM
Jerheme sighting on MNF just now.
I'm sure if I'd been watching I'd have seen Studebaker too.
Yep, saw Studebaker on a kickoff return a minute ago but a pretty quiet night so far.
Urban's been in for two plays, wildcat QB both times, handing off both times. Has to be a relief to be active, perhaps because he's now the emergency QB with Cassel out for the season.
According to this article, the only healthy QB KC will have tonight is Palko (was that the the name of the QB in "The Replacements"?). Orton is not going to suit up and Stanzi hurt his ankle this week in practice.
http://kansascity.sbnation.com/kansas-city-chiefs/2011/11/27/2589964/kyle-orton-not-suiting-up-and-ricky-stanzis-injured-ankle-spells
Urban is the emergency QB and if something happens to Palko will get to play QB for real against the Steelers. Shudder ....
Quote from: Ron Boerger on November 27, 2011, 02:55:57 PM
According to this article, the only healthy QB KC will have tonight is Palko (was that the the name of the QB in "The Replacements"?). Orton is not going to suit up and Stanzi hurt his ankle this week in practice.
http://kansascity.sbnation.com/kansas-city-chiefs/2011/11/27/2589964/kyle-orton-not-suiting-up-and-ricky-stanzis-injured-ankle-spells
Urban is the emergency QB and if something happens to Palko will get to play QB for real against the Steelers. Shudder ....
Shane Falco.
Quote from: HSCTiger74 on November 27, 2011, 07:51:34 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on November 27, 2011, 02:55:57 PM
According to this article, the only healthy QB KC will have tonight is Palko (was that the the name of the QB in "The Replacements"?). Orton is not going to suit up and Stanzi hurt his ankle this week in practice.
http://kansascity.sbnation.com/kansas-city-chiefs/2011/11/27/2589964/kyle-orton-not-suiting-up-and-ricky-stanzis-injured-ankle-spells
Urban is the emergency QB and if something happens to Palko will get to play QB for real against the Steelers. Shudder ....
Shane Falco.
/Eddie Murphy voice
Great frockin mooovie
How about that. This Saxon in the NFL (http://www.eveningtribune.com/footballfever/columns/x2086542814/Pep-Talk-Saxon-in-the-NFL) wasn't the first! And AU's All-American LB Nick Clark is getting some attention from the NFL talent scouts.
On Saxon Warriors!
Jerheme Urban made a nice grab in traffic on a 24-yard post pattern to record his first touchdown in nearly three years. Unfortunately that was the only highlight for the offensively challenged Chiefs, who were were pasted 37-10 by the Jets. He had one other short catch and his first NFL carry for seven yards (perhaps from the wildcat).
I wonder what the coaching change will do for Urban.
Just saw on a stat crawl L. Fletcher is leading the NFL in tackles, and F Jackson is second in Rushing yards per game.
Urban's catch was better than nice.
Quote from: frank uible on December 13, 2011, 05:31:40 PM
Urban's catch was better than nice.
And I fear it could be his last in the NFL. He hasn't been active since that game, Haley's last.
Now that it looks like there will be a season, D-III guys in the AFL:
Adrian OL/DL Mike Lewis (http://www.utblaze.com/index.cfm?go=team&show=player&id=25), Utah Blaze
Albion QB Stephen Wasil (http://www.tampabaystorm.com/players/detail/wasil), Tampa Bay Storm
Willamette WR Scott Schoettgen (http://www.thesanjosesabercats.com/team.php?id=219), San Jose Sabercats
Wesley OL/DL Bryan Robinson (http://www.philadelphiasoul.com/home.cfm?go=team&show=player&id=71), Philadelphia Soul
Otterbein DB Micheaux Robinson (http://www.philadelphiasoul.com/home.cfm?go=team&show=player&id=79), Philadelphia Soul
Otterbein DB Dominic Jones (http://clevelandgladiators.com/team/roster/?player_id=341), Cleveland Gladiators
Mount Union QB Kurt Rocco (http://aflvoodoo.com/voodoo/players/index.html?player_id=65), New Orleans Voodoo
UW-Stevens Point WR/LB Jared Jenkins (http://www.mkemustangs.com/roster/82/Jared%20Jenkins), Milwaukee Mustangs
Buena Vista WR Jesse Schmidt (http://www.theiowabarnstormers.com/team/roster/index.html?player_id=13), Iowa Barnstormers
Buena Vista K Carlos Martinez (http://www.arenafootball.com/player/player-profile-carlos-martinez), Georgia Force
Mississippi WR Jake Allen (http://www.arenafootball.com/player/player-profile-jake-allen), Georgia Force
Always great to see D3 guys get a chance to show their stuff.
Pierre Garçon has left the Colts (we're not going to have anyone left on the team at this rate) and has signed a 5 year/$42.5M contract with Washington with $21.5M guaranteed.
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on March 14, 2012, 12:15:57 PM
Pierre Garçon has left the Colts (we're not going to have anyone left on the team at this rate) and has signed a 5 year/$42.5M contract with Washington with $21.5M guaranteed.
Congrats to him on landing that type of contract.
Wesley's Bryan Robinson blocked field goal on the last play of the Phila Soul 63-62 opening game win ove New Orleans!
RB/TUNDE OGUN CNU: Danube Dragons: Austria Football League
Whitewater's 2011 QB Matt Blanchard was singed by the Chicago Bears yesterday to a three-year contract (an undrafted free agent).
Best of luck to Matt!
There was a running back playing for the Panthers tonight against the Jets named Armond Smith who was credited as being from Union. I don't think he'll push Williams or Stewart out of a job but he looked pretty decent while he was in and could stick as a backup/special teamer.
Smith is from Union (KY), not Union (NY). Union (KY) is NAIA, not D3.
Quote from: frank uible on August 27, 2012, 10:42:18 AM
Smith is from Union (KY), not Union (NY). Union (KY) is NAIA, not D3.
You know, I was kind of wondering about that, but since NAIA doesn't make a blip on my radar I went with the familiar. Not the first time for that type of goof, likely not the last either. :)
I know he has a long way to go but UMHB's Nate Menkin survived the Texans cut to 75.
I took a look through the NFL rosters and here's all the players I could find. Of course there's still cuts to be made so many won't be on final rosters.
Chris Greenwood Albion Lions
Derek Carrier Beloit Raiders
Tyler Beiler Bridgewater Steelers
Fred Jackson Coe Bills
Michael Preston Heidelberg Titans
London Fletcher John Carroll Redskins
Jerrell Freeman Mary Hardin-Baylor Colts
Nate Menkin Mary Hardin-Baylor Texans
Alex Tanney Monmouth Chiefs
Bobby Skinner Montclair St Lions
Pierre Garcon Mount Union Redskins
Kyle Miller Mount Union Colts
Cecil Shorts Mount Union Jaguars
Jason Trusnik Ohio Northern Dolphins
Rico Wallace Shenandoah Panthers
Andy Studebaker Wheaton Chiefs
Matt Blanchard WI-Whitewater Bears
Grizzlie: Does that effort leave any time for eating and sleeping?
Quote from: frank uible on August 28, 2012, 05:24:31 AM
Grizzlie: Does that effort leave any time for eating and sleeping?
What is this sleep that you speak of? 8-)
Jerheme Urban is still awaiting a call (Seahawks, Cardinals, Chiefs) Trinity great '03. Currently an asst coach at Trinity.. AND we're lucky to have him!
UMHB's Nate Menkin was released by the Texans today. He had a tough row to hoe cracking into the Texan's lineup. Perhaps with the injury to Rashad Butler on Thursday night they will keep him around as a possible fill-in on their taxi squad or he can be picked up by someone else (Jets maybe :)). He seemed to me to have shown something by making it to the last cut!
Quote from: roocru on August 31, 2012, 05:39:17 PM
UMHB's Nate Menkin was released by the Texans today. He had a tough row to hoe cracking into the Texan's lineup. Perhaps with the injury to Rashad Butler on Thursday night they will keep him around as a possible fill-in on their taxi squad or he can be picked up by someone else (Jets maybe :)). He seemed to me to have shown something by making it to the last cut!
On the other hand, Jerrell Freeman is listed as the starting LILB with Pat Angerer still out.
Looks like Andy Studebaker will have another year with the Chiefs as a backup and spot starter.
Quote from: historymajor on August 29, 2012, 05:20:20 AM
Jerheme Urban is still awaiting a call (Seahawks, Cardinals, Chiefs) Trinity great '03. Currently an asst coach at Trinity.. AND we're lucky to have him!
historymajor, I feel like that Tiger image of yours is seducing me or something with that hip movement :o
Nate Menkin was picked up by the Eagles to be on the 53 man roster. The eagles web site has a nice write up
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on August 28, 2012, 03:17:21 AM
I took a look through the NFL rosters and here's all the players I could find. Of course there's still cuts to be made so many won't be on final rosters.
Chris Greenwood Albion Lions
Derek Carrier Beloit Raiders
Tyler Beiler Bridgewater Steelers
Fred Jackson Coe Bills
Michael Preston Heidelberg Titans
London Fletcher John Carroll Redskins
Jerrell Freeman Mary Hardin-Baylor Colts
Nate Menkin Mary Hardin-Baylor Texans
Alex Tanney Monmouth Chiefs
Bobby Skinner Montclair St Lions
Pierre Garcon Mount Union Redskins
Kyle Miller Mount Union Colts
Cecil Shorts Mount Union Jaguars
Jason Trusnik Ohio Northern Dolphins
Rico Wallace Shenandoah Panthers
Andy Studebaker Wheaton Chiefs
Matt Blanchard WI-Whitewater Bears
Kyle Miller is currently listed on the Practice Squad for the Colts.
How many D-3 officials are in the NFL as replacement refs?
My SWAG is zero come directly from D3 officiating.
Updating my list from about 10 days ago. Here's who I can find on rosters to start the season (not counting practice squads)
CB Chris Greenwood Albion Lions (PUP List)
RB Fred Jackson Coe Bills
LB London Fletcher John Carroll Redskins
LB Jerrell Freeman Mary Hardin-Baylor Colts
OT Nate Menkin Mary Hardin-Baylor Eagles*
QB Alex Tanney Monmouth Chiefs
WR Pierre Garcon Mount Union Redskins
WR Cecil Shorts Mount Union Jaguars
LB Jason Trusnik Ohio Northern Dolphins
LB Andy Studebaker Wheaton Chiefs
Tanney's on IR - was never placed on the final roster so he's out for the year. Only those place on IR from the 53 man roster are eligible to return in week 6 to practice and be activated in week 8 to play - I believe that's how it works.
I think teams are allowed one player with that IR exemption.
Jerrell Freeman gets the easy pick 6 for the Colts less than 4 minutes into the season. :)
Jerrell Freeman made himself known today. led the team with 13 tackles, 6 solo, 1 Sack, 1 TFL. Nice game sir
Tonight was the first time this season that I had the chance to hear the introductions for the Redskins. I was disappointed to hear Pierre Garcon announce that he was from ... "Haiti".
I missed the introductions for the defense and London Fletcher.
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 30, 2012, 10:30:59 PM
Tonight was the first time this season that I had the chance to hear the introductions for the Redskins. I was disappointed to hear Pierre Garcon announce that he was from ... "Haiti".
I missed the introductions for the defense and London Fletcher.
Ever since the earthquake, Garcon has been VERY adamant about Haiti. I'm sure Mount Union can live with that. ;)
Today Fletcher acknowledged John Carroll when he introduced himself.
New Carolina Panthers general manager Dave Gettleman is a Springfield College grad, and played football before injuring his shoulder.
Huntingdon's D.J. Chappell is playing for the Columbus Lions of the PIFL(Professional Indoor Football League). Browsing other rosters in the league finds other DIII players.
Alabama Hammers
Larry Beavers - Wesley
Daniel Ross - Ithaca
Lehigh Valley Steelhawks
Matt Hoffman - Rowan
Elisee Pompilus - Union
Elliot White - Widener
Louisiana Swashbucklers
Tim Curry - La. College
Wayne Harris - La. College
Jordan Rideaux - La. College
Lamarcus Preston - La. College
Kenny Kitchen - La. College
Richmond Raiders
James Carter - NC Wesleyan
Maurice Thorne - NC Wesleyan
T.C. Stevens - Hampden-Sydney
Alex Tanney playing for Cowboys in HOF Game.
Former Mount Union tight end Kyle Miller played well for the Dolphins in that same game. He caught a late touchdown off a deflection. I was hoping the announcers would mention his Division III roots since Alliance is so close to Canton, but I didn't hear anything.
Congrats to him anyway.
http://www.cantonrep.com/sports/x1465126768/Former-Mount-Union-star-Miller-scores-late-TD-for-Miami
Announcers don't know Stark County.
Justin Goltz (Occidental) is starting at QB tonight for Winnipeg against British Columbia in the CFL.
Read an article about Alabama's new recruiting pitch that gave a positive remark about DIII football players. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/alabama-recruiting-pitch-brags-recent-draftees-51-8m-151352755.html
Proud to be a former DIII player for my education and experience!!!
I know this thread has been dormant for a while (often because these things are often posted in the threads associated with alma mater of the player), but Jerrell Freeman is playing some good ball for the Colts today against the 49ers.
Who else have we got on active rosters? The Mount receivers (Garçon and Shorts), the indomitable London Fletcher...are Trusnik and Studebaker getting any time?
Nate Menkin, offensive tackle from UMHB, is on the Texan Practice Squad.
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on September 22, 2013, 06:27:14 PM
I know this thread has been dormant for a while (often because these things are often posted in the threads associated with alma mater of the player), but Jerrell Freeman is playing some good ball for the Colts today against the 49ers.
Who else have we got on active rosters? The Mount receivers (Garçon and Shorts), the indomitable London Fletcher...are Trusnik and Studebaker getting any time?
Trusnik played most of 2nd half yesterday against Falcons and had 2 tackles and an assist. I also saw that he served as a Captain for the game. Studebaker was signed by the Jags but I don't see him listed on their roster. Too bad he had some pretty good games with the Chiefs.
MHB alum Jerrell Freeman had another tremendous game for the Colts yesterday leading the team in tackles with thirteen.
Colts add another D3 alum to the roster as they sign Andy Studebaker
Former Wesley QB Shane McSweeny signed with IFLs Lehigh Valley SteelHawks recently.
Sawtudebaker often on special teams, primarily punt coverage.
Nice blurb and picture on the UMHB website about Jerrell Freeman (Colts) and Nate Mencik (Texans). What make it more interesting is a player in the background (Andy Studebaker). Three D3 athletes in the same picture at Reliant Stadium!!
http://cruathletics.com/news/2013/11/4/FB_1104130603.aspx?path=football (http://cruathletics.com/news/2013/11/4/FB_1104130603.aspx?path=football)
D3 Players in Indoor Football League:
IFL
Team: Player: Position:
Bemidji Axemen Josiah Powell-(St. Olaf) K
Bemidji Axemen Terrence Clark (Carthage) OL
Green Bay Blizzard Nate Wara (UW-Oshkosh) QB
Texas Revolution Javicz Jones (Mary Hardin-Baylor) LB
Texas Revolution A Frazier (ETBU) DE/LB
Tri-City Fever Brady Beeson (St. Thomas-MN) K
Wyoming Cavalry Patrick Harrington (WLC) OL
Wyoming Cavalry Arthur Smith (Mt. Union) LB
D3 Players in LoneStar Football League:
Team: Player: Position:
Amarillo Undre Hendrix (HSU) FB/DE
Amarillo M Maldonado (UMHB) WR/DB
Rio Grande Valley Renato Nunez (SRSU) QB
Rio Grande Valley Jorge Mata (Buena Vista) WR
San Angelo Jeremiah Turner (Concordia-TX DT/DE
San Angelo Luke Collis (Occidental) QB
QuoteSan Angelo Jeremiah Turner (Concordia-TX DT/DE
That's pretty impressive considering Concordia-TX doesn't even have a football team!
D3 Players in Arena Football League:
Team: Player: Position:
Cleveland Gladiators Dominic Jones (Otterbein) DB
Iowa Barnstormers Mike Lewis (Adrian) DE
New Orleans VooDoo Kurt Rocco (Mt. Union) QB
New Orleans VooDoo Larry Beavers (Wesley) WR
Philadelphia Soul Carlos Martinez (Buena Vista) K
Eric Rogers, WR, Portland...possible Indoor League rookie of the year....former CLU Regal and SCIAC ...POY, last summer was in the Cowboys camp but was cut in the second to last round of cuts.
Quote from: olddog on May 27, 2014, 07:46:01 PM
Eric Rogers, WR, Portland...possible Indoor League rookie of the year....former CLU Regal and SCIAC ...POY, last summer was in the Cowboys camp but was cut in the second to last round of cuts.
Yes,
I saw a couple of the games and the commentators were asking the QB was Rogers his go to guy after the first game.
Looks like Jerrell Freeman (UMHB) will play this week as he was back at practice yesterday for Indianapolis.
Brad Biggs @BradBiggs 2m2 minutes ago
Former #Bears QB Matt Blanchard back on field for #Panthers after missing 4 months with concussion from @josephperson http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014
With the 61st pick in the 2015 NFL Draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select... Ali Marpet... Guard from Hobart... a D3 player taken in the 2nd round :o ;D
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on May 01, 2015, 09:28:42 PM
With the 61st pick in the 2015 NFL Draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select... Ali Marpet... Guard from Hobart... a D3 player taken in the 2nd round :o ;D
Made my evening. That and the fact that the Bears addressed some significant needs along the OL & DL.
Highest-drafted D3 player in history. Good luck to this young man!
Whitewater's Kumerow signed with the Bengals.
Big day for this:
http://www.d3football.com/notables/2015/05/post-draft-signings
Just curious, but with the start of the Canadian Football League this week, are there any players/coaches with a D3 pedigree...seems like a likely place for anyone who couldn't make it on an NFL Roster
Quote from: MediaGuy on June 28, 2015, 11:38:46 PM
Just curious, but with the start of the Canadian Football League this week, are there any players/coaches with a D3 pedigree...seems like a likely place for anyone who couldn't make it on an NFL Roster
After a Quick Scan of the CFL Rosters on their respective Websites I only saw two former DIII Players in the CFL:
Jasper Collins (Mount Union) - Hamilton TigerCats (http://ticats.ca/player/jasper-collins)
Eric Rogers (California Lutheran) - Calgary Stampeders (http://www.stampeders.com/roster/show/id/6693)
Quote from: MediaGuy on June 28, 2015, 11:38:46 PM
Just curious, but with the start of the Canadian Football League this week, are there any players/coaches with a D3 pedigree...seems like a likely place for anyone who couldn't make it on an NFL Roster
I think this is somewhat wishful thinking which I initially shared. But with more reflection - think of the number of D1 players who go undrafted to the NFL and the number of D2. Even though the CFL is a major step down from the NFL, there are still many players that played at 2 higher levels than our best at D3. Don't get me wrong, I would love the inverse to be true.
WarhawkDad
Pat C ....I know you are busy researching Redlands Football, but a quick update of D3 players in camps would be fun.
Thanks
Marpet debuts tonight with Bucs on NFL network. Kumerow doing well with Bengals and Franks fighting for the kicking job in Miami. I believe the Bucs also have a former Heidelberg player at WR.
Blanchard is also currently 3rd string on the Packers roster.
I watched Marpet this weekend. He did pretty well. One can tell he is getting used to the tackles being on him quicker, versus playing OT. He and the tackle did miss one stunt where they should have exchange rushers on a twist by the defense. He got off the ball pretty well, used his hands well and appears physical enough to play in the NFL. I can see why Tampa drafted him, given how well he moves his feet, nothing but upside from I saw and better than several young linemen trying to make the team.
Posted on the CCIW board:
Andy Studebaker signs with Tennessee.
http://www.titansonline.com/news/article-4/Titans-Sign-LB-Andy-Studebaker-Waive-WR-Clyde-Gates/dbcfa3f6-1975-41a5-9f92-d441fd488242 (http://www.titansonline.com/news/article-4/Titans-Sign-LB-Andy-Studebaker-Waive-WR-Clyde-Gates/dbcfa3f6-1975-41a5-9f92-d441fd488242)
I watched the Eagles this weekend. Bailey for Delaware sure looked good this weekend, strong hands. They said he would most likely make the practice squad. However I think there is a window when other teams can pick him up. It shall be fun to watch.
Three D3 alums in the Panthers-Dolphins game Saturday night:
Jason Trusnik of ONU signed with the Panthers in the off-season to help shore up their crummy special teams play. He didn't do anything outstanding in the game, but he's an old pro at this point and all the projections by the local writers have him making the final roster.
Michael Preston of Heidelberg saw a lot of minutes at wide receiver for the Dolphins, with both the first and second units. He was only targeted once but made the catch and picked up a few yards after, plus his downfield blocking looked pretty good as well.
Andrew Franks of RPI handled the place kicking in the first half for Miami. He nailed both his PATs and his two kickoffs both went out of the end zone for touchbacks, but the other kicker is a veteran so I don't know if it's an actual competition or if Franks is just in training camp to keep the other guy from overworking. Still, he showed a good strong leg and I could see him kicking for somebody at some point.
Thanks HSC, I will be on the look out for those guys.
Marpet is improving game to game. Good sign, I like how he moves his feet. I started last night.
Kumerow did not get in until late, caught a couple passes, on his first catch the FS bounced off him for another 7 yards after catch. He looks pretty tall out there.
Big night for RPI grad Andrew Franks going 2-2 on FGs (32 & 51 yards) and kicking 2 touchbacks in a 13-9 win for the Dolphins, their first of the NFL preseason.
TE Ezeakunni from Chapman was cut by the Bengals. He was a late invite to camp after injuries. They cut down to three TE.
Browns signed UWW Matt Blanchard to the practice squad yesterday.
Ali Marpet ,starting RG for the Bucaneers , just contributed to an NFL WIN this week......a far road from Hastings HS and Hobart College
Quote from: Bartman on September 23, 2015, 06:58:30 PM
Ali Marpet ,starting RG for the Bucaneers , just contributed to an NFL WIN this week......a far road from Hastings HS and Hobart College
Nice Article on Ali Marpet (http://www.bucsnation.com/2015/11/3/9659478/ali-marpet-is-quietly-turning-into-one-of-the-better-guards-in-the-nfl)
Quote from: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on November 03, 2015, 11:41:14 AM
Quote from: Bartman on September 23, 2015, 06:58:30 PM
Ali Marpet ,starting RG for the Bucaneers , just contributed to an NFL WIN this week......a far road from Hastings HS and Hobart College
Nice Article on Ali Marpet (http://www.bucsnation.com/2015/11/3/9659478/ali-marpet-is-quietly-turning-into-one-of-the-better-guards-in-the-nfl)
Marpet ranked second best guard in NFL for run blocking .....amazing learning machine...projects to All Pro in a few years....no wonder Hobart running game struggling this year...
Quote from: Bartman on November 11, 2015, 08:14:22 AM
Quote from: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on November 03, 2015, 11:41:14 AM
Quote from: Bartman on September 23, 2015, 06:58:30 PM
Ali Marpet ,starting RG for the Bucaneers , just contributed to an NFL WIN this week......a far road from Hastings HS and Hobart College
Nice Article on Ali Marpet (http://www.bucsnation.com/2015/11/3/9659478/ali-marpet-is-quietly-turning-into-one-of-the-better-guards-in-the-nfl)
Marpet ranked second best guard in NFL for run blocking .....amazing learning machine...projects to All Pro in a few years....no wonder Hobart running game struggling this year...
The Bucs had a second D3 player on the field during yesterday's game at Carolina. Rookie WR Donteea Dye from Heidelberg played the majority of snaps with the starting offense and had several catches, as well as a couple of decent downfield blocks. Not necessarily Marpet level, but he looked pretty good.
Ali Marpet, gets drafted in the second round and then is the starting RG for Tampa Bay....now is selected for NFL All Rookie team (http://www.fingerlakesdailynews.com/news/details.cfm?clientid=16&id=204130#.Vqd74OlLJhM). My Giants are keeping an eye on him when his contract is up....What a story and what a role model..he is truly a humble , hard working yet a very confident young man...GO D3..GO BART!
Not real sure what Major League Football is but Huntingdon's Taylor Besterling was drafted in the Franchise Round.
http://www.huntingdonhawks.com/sports/fball/2015-16/releases/20160129pgaw4o
http://www.mlfbmedia.com/franchise-player-draft-tracker/
Good for him! At the same time, yeesh, another apparently underfunded spring football league. These seem to pop up at least as far as practices every year and fail before the season ends.
Quote from: jknezek on January 31, 2016, 05:27:34 PM
Good for him! At the same time, yeesh, another apparently underfunded spring football league. These seem to pop up at least as far as practices every year and fail before the season ends.
But you gotta admire their
chutzpah -
Major League Football, indeed! :o ;D
Profile of Mr. Belsterling on the MLFB site: http://www.mlfbmedia.com/meet-the-eight-mlfb-franchise-players/ - seems an odd choice for a "franchise" player as his collegiate experience equates to exactly one decent-but-not-spectacular season of D3 ball. All the best to him, just the same.
According to their "draft tracker" there were 69 rounds in total. Highest other D3 name I saw (http://www.mlfbmedia.com/live-territorial-draft-tracker/) was John Carroll's QB Mark Myers in the 18th round, but I could have easily missed someone. Mount Union DB Isaiah Scott went in the 22nd, Texas Lutheran's K Tyler Brandenburg in 38th.
Rounds 41-69 here: http://www.mlfbmedia.com/national-draft-tracker/
Will be interesting to see how many of these draftees are interested enough to make it to camp. Also be interesting to see where they are playing; as far as I can determine no announcement has been made and their page entitiled "the eight cities" has zero actual locations listed (http://www.mlfbmedia.com/about-mlfb-the-eight-cities/). A page created on December 10th (http://www.mlfbmedia.com/major-league-football-to-announce-franchise-cities-for-2016-spring-debut/) says they're "to announce franchise cities" but other than a picture of San Antonio's Alamodome there isn't anything saying what they are.
Yep. The lack of concrete plans is why I feel this stuff is mostly vaporware. We've seen it before. Minor League Football is a very expensive proposition. The teams are large, so the payroll is large, relative to the gate. The travel expense is immense with that many players, and the insurance is crippling. The expenses make minor league football a difficult pipe dream. It will need to be subsidized by the NFL if it is ever to become a reality. And that means the NFL has to realize it is worth the expense to NOT have players being brought in off the street late in the season to fill out depleted rosters.
I also think regional leagues, like soccer's PDL, is the best bet. Especially now that PDL is tied to MLS. For football you have to be able to bus the teams around, because there is no way you can afford flights. So set up 4 regional leagues of 4 teams each. Each team plays a home and home within the region making for 6 game seasons in May/June, then the regional champs play a 2 round playoff. That takes you to the end of June, and players can rest a bit before the lucky ones get called in to NFL camps. After NFL cut down day, the minor league teams reform in September, practice for 2 weeks, then run a single round robin for 3 weeks within the region. Champs do playoffs again and that creates a pool of players with 3-5 game weeks experience ready for late season NFL call ups in playing shape.
I could see something like Panama City Beach, Mobile, Birmingham, Chattanooga, or Jackson MS forming a league. All cities with limited FBS football and no professional football. In the north east you could do Providence, Harrisonburg, Brooklyn, and Hartford. I'm sure someone could figure a midwest league and a west coast league with bus distance teams.
Quote from: jknezek on February 01, 2016, 09:09:01 AM
Yep. The lack of concrete plans is why I feel this stuff is mostly vaporware. We've seen it before. Minor League Football is a very expensive proposition. The teams are large, so the payroll is large, relative to the gate. The travel expense is immense with that many players, and the insurance is crippling. The expenses make minor league football a difficult pipe dream. It will need to be subsidized by the NFL if it is ever to become a reality. And that means the NFL has to realize it is worth the expense to NOT have players being brought in off the street late in the season to fill out depleted rosters.
I also think regional leagues, like soccer's PDL, is the best bet. Especially now that PDL is tied to MLS. For football you have to be able to bus the teams around, because there is no way you can afford flights. So set up 4 regional leagues of 4 teams each. Each team plays a home and home within the region making for 6 game seasons in May/June, then the regional champs play a 2 round playoff. That takes you to the end of June, and players can rest a bit before the lucky ones get called in to NFL camps. After NFL cut down day, the minor league teams reform in September, practice for 2 weeks, then run a single round robin for 3 weeks within the region. Champs do playoffs again and that creates a pool of players with 3-5 game weeks experience ready for late season NFL call ups in playing shape.
I could see something like Panama City Beach, Mobile, Birmingham, Chattanooga, or Jackson MS forming a league. All cities with limited FBS football and no professional football. In the north east you could do Providence, Harrisonburg, Brooklyn, and Hartford. I'm sure someone could figure a midwest league and a west coast league with bus distance teams.
West I'd say places like Portland, Sacramento, Boise, Spokane, Salt Lake City, maybe Vancouver.
Midwest could have places like Fargo, Sioux Falls, Omaha, Des Moines in the north or Oklahoma City, Tulsa, Little Rock, San Antonio, Austin, El Paso, Albuquerque to the south
Here are the locations of the MLF:
Alabama Airborne
Arkansas Attack
Florida Fusion
Northwest Empire (Eugene, OR)
Oklahoma Nation
Ohio Union
Texas Independence
Utah Stand
Hmm...Trump and the USFL only lost $160MM 30 years ago with a pro spring/fall league...but that was almost offset by the $1 they won in the suit against the NFL. I am sure the league will learn from past mistakes.....right ???
Quote from: Bartman on February 01, 2016, 08:14:28 PM
Here are the locations of the MLF:
Alabama Airborne
Arkansas Attack
Florida Fusion
Northwest Empire (Eugene, OR)
Oklahoma Nation
Ohio Union
Texas Independence
Utah Stand
Hmm...Trump and the USFL only lost $160MM 30 years ago with a pro spring/fall league...but that was almost offset by the $1 they won in the suit against the NFL. I am sure the league will learn from past mistakes.....right ???
YIKES!! That a LOT of flying. I'll predict that they either fold before they even start, or don't even finish the first season.
Sucker bet Mr. Y!
Also fascinating that there STILL is no announcement from the MLFB group itself. Wikipedia links this as its source for the team names
http://sporrepor.com/spor-repor-break-mlfb-news-bros-daily-repor/
and the SPOR report describes itself as "a satirical/parody sports news website dedicated to liking sports, attempting to be funny...and that's about it. " There are several other articles talking about these team names, but OMG, if you're a new league don't you actually try and publicize your franchises? That you don't says you haven't lined up facilities, practice locations, and other minor details ...
Those are some seriously lame names, too. And where, pray tell, is the "Texas" Independence located? Lot of ground to cover. The SPOR article strongly implies San Antonio (b/c of the picture of the Alamodome and other activities held there) but there is ZERO in the local press.
If you search those names, at least the more... unique... like Alabama Airborne you will find Major League Football has filed for a trademark on them as of last month. The trademarks aren't approved yet, but it appears like someone is trying.
I still can't believe they will get this off the ground this spring unless there is a whole lot more groundwork that has been done and not yet released. I did see some small newspaper articles with local info about the Utah and Arkansas teams popping up in the last few names.
It appears there is something more than just rumor, but I'm still not willing to bet it survives a full seasons of 10 games plus playoffs as is mentioned starting in April. I simply don't see how they think they can afford nationwide travel and if they are renting larger than h.s. stadiums I have no idea where they think the fans are going to come from when they have done no team building so far.
In comparison, the Alabama Hammers, a new 4th tier (roughly) professional soccer team here in Birmingham, has been doing a full on push for fans with local business promotions, facebook presence, media push, camps with local teams, merchandise pop up sales and more for several months already. They are planning to play in a field with seats for a few hundred, tops, and every game outside of the playoffs is within driving distance.
I'm willing to bet on the Hammers making it a full season or more. I got my scarf from my wife for the holidays. Anyone want to take the essentially unheard of Airborne? Both start play at about the same time...
Uh-oh. One of the investors apparently hasn't kept up their end.
http://www.mlfbmedia.com/major-league-football-inc-provides-company-update/
Quote from: Hawks88 on February 08, 2016, 04:13:29 PM
Uh-oh. One of the investors apparently hasn't kept up their end.
http://www.mlfbmedia.com/major-league-football-inc-provides-company-update/
Never a good sign when one of your first formal actions as a league is a lawsuit ... also interesting that they are talking about suing one Robert Queen, Jr. when a Michael Queen is listed as the EVP of Finance. Hmm...
Also (from the article): "Major League Football Inc. is a publicly traded, professional spring football league [...]" - publicly traded WHERE? Investing $100 could probably get you a million shares ...
Also: "For additional information on MLFB's nationally accessible ticket database and our sponsorship opportunities, go to http://mlfb.fanfurnace.com [...] to sign-up for your tickets now" ... also not a good sign when the web site you're directed to for tickets brings up a blank page.
EDIT: Here's the stock: http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/mlfb ... it's been around for years, surprisingly enough. $0.59/share with a market cap north of $25M is too rich for my blood :o
EDIT 2: The last 10-Q makes interesting reading. http://www.marketwatch.com/story/10-q-major-league-football-inc-2015-12-15 - and here is just what fell through:
QuoteOn October 20, 2015, (i) the Company and the Investor agreed to rescind in its entirety the Original Purchase Agreement and entered into an Amended and Restated Securities Purchase Agreement (the "Amended Purchase Agreement"); (ii) the Company agreed to refund all funds it received from the Investor; and (iii) the Investor agreed to return all securities it received from the Company. Under the Amended Securities Purchase Agreement, the Company will sell to the Purchaser in exchange for $20,000,000 and a right of first refusal to purchase a Company franchise in Missouri City, TX (the "Right of First Refusal") either (i) 26,666,666 shares of Company common stock in the event the closing occurs on or before February 1, 2016; or (ii) the lesser of (a) the number of shares of common stock equal to the quotient obtained by dividing 20,000,000 by the Company's 20 day VWAP price of the Company's common stock during the twenty (20) consecutive trading day period beginning on the last trading date prior to the Closing Date or (b) 26,666,666 shares of common stock, in the event the closing occurs at any time after February 1, 2016. The entire $20 million sale and purchase of the common stock is expected to occur on or before February 1, 2016, subject to customary closing conditions. The Right of First Refusal vests on the closing date of the sale and purchase of the common stock. No assurances can be made that the closing will occur or that the Right of First Refusal will vest.
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 09, 2016, 08:41:26 AM
Never a good sign when one of your first formal actions as a league is a lawsuit ... also interesting that they are talking about suing one Robert Queen, Jr. when a Michael Queen is listed as the EVP of Finance. Hmm...
I had noticed this too. ::)
Quote
Also: "For additional information on MLFB's nationally accessible ticket database and our sponsorship opportunities, go to http://mlfb.fanfurnace.com [...] to sign-up for your tickets now" ... also not a good sign when the web site you're directed to for tickets brings up a blank page.
I can understand this still being a blank page considering they haven't announced the cities yet. I mean if they are playing in Montgomery there's a chance I could go to a game or two. I don't see me going to Birmingham for it though.
Quote from: Hawks88 on February 09, 2016, 10:27:24 AM
I can understand this still being a blank page considering they haven't announced the cities yet. I mean if they are playing in Montgomery there's a chance I could go to a game or two. I don't see me going to Birmingham for it though.
I'm in Birmingham and I don't see me going to these games. But who knows? Maybe football deprivation will drive me to desperate acts. Then again, I don't think they will play a game, so it's probably a dead issue.
Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 09, 2016, 08:41:26 AM
EDIT: Here's the stock: http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/mlfb ... it's been around for years, surprisingly enough. $0.59/share with a market cap north of $25M is too rich for my blood :o
Apparently it closed at just $.40/share today :-\
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14748865/major-league-football-new-spring-league-begins-taking-shape
ESPN has now officially stepped in with free publicity. They still have a giant financing hole, haven't announced cities for play, a schedule, or started practice. But darn it, ESPN is on board with some names that most college football aficionados will shake their head and go, "oh yea, I remember him. Didn't make it, huh?"
Ah, so that's why the stock bounced back to $0.59 yesterday.
Saw this article the other day on Major League Football:
http://www.bradenton.com/news/business/article60832856.html
Apparently they found a new investor but it's costing them franchises, something that originally they didn't want to do. SO the whole financial underpinning of the league looks to now be subject before they even open their first camp. But they have a nice headquarters!
Lordy, a $100 m line of credit (in addition to the $20M investment). That's optimism on the part of the firm making it available.
Stock's over $1! I should have bought! :D
UMHB alum Jerrell Freeman leaves the Colts and heads to Chicago. 3 years and $12M with $6M guaranteed.
Big write-up in Wisconsin paper (Janesville Gazette) about Wesley's Joe Callahan being on the Packer's radar.
Callahan has signed w/Packers
Kevin Russell, Redlands QB and POY in the SCIAC Travis Sparks RB, University of La Verne...both have signed with the NGL, Australia..
NGL says they are on par with the highest German League. No limit on American players.
Saw some reports that Callahan from Wesley could be starting at QB in first preseason game for Packers? Hope he makes the most of it on National TV.
Ali Marpet is no longer getting much attention at the Tampa Bay Bucs camp...hohum...he is #1 on RG depth chart and was ranked 23 out of 34 RGs in the NFL based on his 2015 performance(better on run than in pass protection). Not bad for a D3 boy. Expect Ali's skills to advance this year on his way to becoming an All Pro one day.....looking forward to my Giants signing him when his Tampa contract is up ;D
I guess this thread has lost it's mojo....but what about Joe Callahan story with Green Bay?...big last look tonight as he gets start in last preseason game...will GB keep 3 QBs or will Packers take a chance on losing him before he ends up on taxi squad?? Joe has been very impressive for a rookie from ANY division... better than Jameis Winston's first preseason....
There's been a lot of chatter about Callahan but it's been in the NJAC boards where Wesley now makes a home. It's been a great story. Hope they decide to keep 3. With the NJ2 team talking about keeping 4, it's not completely out of the realm of possibility but it would be odd for Green Bay. Callahan has certainly earned the look.
Quote from: jknezek on September 01, 2016, 10:54:53 AM
There's been a lot of chatter about Callahan but it's been in the NJAC boards where Wesley now makes a home. It's been a great story. Hope they decide to keep 3. With the NJ2 team talking about keeping 4, it's not completely out of the realm of possibility but it would be odd for Green Bay. Callahan has certainly earned the look.
Exactly, it would be out of character for Ted Thompson to carry 3 quarterbacks on the active roster. Word is that they will keep only two, and be able to get Callahan through waivers unclaimed since teams have already been working with a young quarterback since the spring.
Quote from: BoBo on September 02, 2016, 01:27:45 AM
Quote from: jknezek on September 01, 2016, 10:54:53 AM
There's been a lot of chatter about Callahan but it's been in the NJAC boards where Wesley now makes a home. It's been a great story. Hope they decide to keep 3. With the NJ2 team talking about keeping 4, it's not completely out of the realm of possibility but it would be odd for Green Bay. Callahan has certainly earned the look.
Exactly, it would be out of character for Ted Thompson to carry 3 quarterbacks on the active roster. Word is that they will keep only two, and be able to get Callahan through waivers unclaimed since teams have already been working with a young quarterback since the spring.
It's funny. Both the best DIII QB stories have hinged on Green Bay recently. Last year Blanchard really got stuck behind Tolzien's contract, and this year it seems like Hundley has a lot of inertia to sit in the spot. Callahan has an advantage in that he is still young enough to be a third string, something Blanchard basically ran out of. So if he does go waivers and third string this year, Hundley may take the Tolzien path next year since there simply is no way forward except by injury in GB. That might give Callahan the "Hundley inertia" next year.
It is official ...Joe Callahan makes the Packer's 53 man roster....he will increase the average post graduate salary for recent Wesley grads
"While many of the Packers' undrafted players were turning in their playbooks Saturday, rookie quarterback Joe Callahan was among those receiving the good news that they'd made the 53-man roster......The most impressive addition was Callahan, who wedged his way into the discussion in a season when the Packers probably allotted just two spots to quarterbacks. A former Division III star at Wesley College, Callahan made tangible improvements from week to week during the exhibition season. "
YES!
Awesome news!!!!! So proud of Joe!!!! :D
-Ski
Watched replay of Tampa v. Atlanta and Ali Marpet looked great in Bucs win. If he stays healthy Hobart College will be getting airtime during Sunday intros for many years
Just wait for the 10/10 MNF game against Carolina
Alex Tanney article on sticking with Tennessee. (http://www.espn.com/blog/tennessee-titans/post/_/id/20423/qb-alex-tanney-chose-titans-practice-squad-raise-direction-and-culture-over-browns)
Joe Callahan was released by the Packers yesterday and immediately signed by New Orleans. They released a lineman to make room for him. The Packers had hoped to put him on the practice squad to make room for some IR guys, but he got plucked instead. He definitely impressed people this preseason.
-Ski
Bears suspend Jerrell Freeman 4 games for PEDs.
This is a Bears season that can't get over soon enough.
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 21, 2016, 03:15:59 PM
Bears suspend Jerrell Freeman 4 games for PEDs.
This is a Bears season that can't get over soon enough.
PED's are required for any Bears fan to make it through watching the rest of this season. I can't take anymore.
It isn't any better north of Chicago either
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on November 22, 2016, 09:48:12 AM
It isn't any better north of Chicago either
True, but you won't get any sympathy from Chicago. You're having a bad stretch to one year. We have years of futility and an organization that seems in complete disarray.
Quote from: Mugsy on November 22, 2016, 10:21:22 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on November 22, 2016, 09:48:12 AM
It isn't any better north of Chicago either
True, but you won't get any sympathy from Chicago anyone. You're having a bad stretch to one year. We have years of futility and an organization that seems in complete disarray.
FTFY
Ali Marpet is having a great year with the Bucs.....he is on the path to a pro bowl level if he stays healthy according to sources at the Giants who have him on the radar screen when his contract is up, comparing him to recently retired OG Snee
VERY belated, but Wesley's Joe Callahan was added back to the Packers active roster on December 17th, 2016. This was after being signed by New Orleans, Cleveland and landing on the Packers practice Squad. As of January 16th, 2017, he is still on the roster! Yay!
-Ski
Not exactly D3 players... but the Colts have announced they won't be holding training camp at Anderson University. Possible new locations include DePauw or the Colts practice facility.
Since the Colts moved to Indy they've had training camp at a D3 school every year... starting with Anderson from 84-98, then to Rose Hulman 1999-2009, then back to Anderson since.
Ali Marpet, Hobart Statesman and Tampa Bay Buc, is scheduled to switch to Center and many have predicted he will eventually be Pro Bowl material:
www.espn.com/.../bucs-ali-marpet-admits-switching-to-center-is-a-big-mental-test
Not a post you might suspect here, but.....
Jerrell Freeman performed the Heimlich maneuver on a man who was choking in an Austin, TX Airport restaurant. A woman had attempted, unsuccessfully, when Freeman took over and dislodged the offending blockage.
Just to note, Wesley's Joe Callahan of Green Bay played in the third quarter in the first Packer preseason game vs the Eagles and was 10-16/103. Not too shabby considering that the yardage was better than the first back-up Hundley who played the entire first half. Here's hoping he continues to impress!
Here is an article on him that was just posted.
http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/article-player-feature/article-1/Joe-Callahan-back-in-his-comfort-zone-with-Packers/a5cc491f-d570-4286-af61-85076f6c47f3
-Ski
p.s. I just got tickets for the Packers-Redskins game this Saturday. It will be really weird to see Joe in a Packers uniform in person rather than wearing the Wesley blue. As a Packer stock owner, this is a real treat!
Quote from: Teamski on August 15, 2017, 01:27:35 PM
Just to note, Wesley's Joe Callahan of Green Bay played in the third quarter in the first Packer preseason game vs the Eagles and was 10-16/103. Not too shabby considering that the yardage was better than the first back-up Hundley who played the entire first half. Here's hoping he continues to impress!
Here is an article on him that was just posted.
http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/article-player-feature/article-1/Joe-Callahan-back-in-his-comfort-zone-with-Packers/a5cc491f-d570-4286-af61-85076f6c47f3
-Ski
p.s. I just got tickets for the Packers-Redskins game this Saturday. It will be really weird to see Joe in a Packers uniform in person rather than wearing the Wesley blue. As a Packer stock owner, this is a real treat!
::)
Hendrix is representing very well in professional leagues abroad. Little All-American and Gagliardi finalist RB Dayton Winn has the Copenhagen Towers poised to claim a top seed in the Danish league playoffs coming in a couple weeks. With an 8-3 record, the Towers are 5-0 since Winn joined them after graduating in May. His statistics are off the charts...
QB Seth Peters has led the Kuopio Steelers to the #1 Seed in his respective Finnish league, and they are dominating the competition with a 7-1 record and blowout scores. They have a good shot to win the whole conference and will likely get promoted to the top division next season (think European soccer system of promotion and relegation).
Max Cassidy has anchored the o-line for the Marburg Mercenaries, who have claimed the #3 seed for the upcoming playoffs in the top German league. If they perform well they could be on their way to the Euro Playoffs, which pulls top teams from all leagues to play for the continental title...
Jeremy Vujnovich of Louisiana College starting at OG for the Colts. I wasn't really paying attention and thought I heard Louisiana College during the intros. He was a senior on the 2012 LC roster. Looks like he spent a couple of years on the Packers' practice squad before going to the Colts last year.
Hawks88 I was very surprised to see that retweeted on my twitter timeline last night...good for him!
Ali Marpet is playing well at Center for the BUCS and just beat my Giants and his favorite team growing up. Giants need him ;D
It looks like Joe Callahan will be activated this week as Brett Hundley's backup at Green Bay now that Rodgers is out for the season. A bittersweet moment for this ex-pat cheesehead.
-Ski
Quote from: Teamski on October 15, 2017, 10:39:07 PM
It looks like Joe Callahan will be activated this week as Brett Hundley's backup at Green Bay now that Rodgers is out for the season. A bittersweet moment for this ex-pat cheesehead.
-Ski
Tough break for the Pack; great opportunity for Callahan. I could VERY easily see him beating out Hundley (IF the Pack don't pick up someone else).
I'm a thoroughly disgusted Lions' fan, so have mixed feelings!
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on October 15, 2017, 11:05:44 PM
Quote from: Teamski on October 15, 2017, 10:39:07 PM
It looks like Joe Callahan will be activated this week as Brett Hundley's backup at Green Bay now that Rodgers is out for the season. A bittersweet moment for this ex-pat cheesehead.
-Ski
Tough break for the Pack; great opportunity for Callahan. I could VERY easily see him beating out Hundley (IF the Pack don't pick up someone else).
I'm a thoroughly disgusted Lions' fan, so have mixed feelings!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/packers-coach-mccarthy-quiets-free-agent-qb-talk-after-rodgers-injury/ar-AAtykkk?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout
It's official! Callahan is now Hundley's back up at Green Bay.
https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/10/16/aaron-rodgers-injured-packers-promote-joe-callahan-back-quarterback
https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2017/10/16/16483064/packers-promote-qb-joe-callahan-practice-squad-active-roster-per-report-aaron-rodgers-injury
A nice little write-up!
-Ski
Callahan released by the Packers to make room for Rodgers' return.
pfff....whatever
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on December 16, 2017, 03:43:17 PM
Callahan released by the Packers to make room for Rodgers' return.
pfff....whatever
Callahan is living the dream and made some nice money post graduation and got real close to playing in an NFL regular season game, but when Hundley was faltering they never inserted Callahan, I think that says a lot....I would be surprised if he gets past where he is now, toggling between taxi squad and third string...but then, you never know
Regarding the Callahan story. Chris Kern from Mount Union was on the roster of the Detroit Lions for awhile. He told me they would call meetings and state that Dlll players were not to attend. Can't seem to get any respect if you're Dlll. Callahan was certainly all-world at Wesley. He deserves better!
Quote from: Bartman on December 18, 2017, 09:45:02 AM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on December 16, 2017, 03:43:17 PM
Callahan released by the Packers to make room for Rodgers' return.
pfff....whatever
Callahan is living the dream and made some nice money post graduation and got real close to playing in an NFL regular season game, but when Hundley was faltering they never inserted Callahan, I think that says a lot....I would be surprised if he gets past where he is now, toggling between taxi squad and third string...but then, you never know
The Packers must like something about him. They just resigned him to the active roster today. Interesting.
I am guessing, but since they have been eliminated from the Playoff picture, they may deactivate Rodgers in order for him to complete his recuperation. If they do this, he may actually get some playing time.
Another great article about Greenville's Nicholas Morrow.
http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/12/15/raiders-nicholas-morrow-a-pleasant-surprise-in-disappointing-season/ (http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/12/15/raiders-nicholas-morrow-a-pleasant-surprise-in-disappointing-season/)
Quote from: AO on December 19, 2017, 10:42:09 AM
Another great article about Greenville's Nicholas Morrow.
http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/12/15/raiders-nicholas-morrow-a-pleasant-surprise-in-disappointing-season/ (http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/12/15/raiders-nicholas-morrow-a-pleasant-surprise-in-disappointing-season/)
Wow, I had not heard of Nicholas Morrow before(mostly follow East)....this is an awesome story
Wesley's Joe Callahan completed his first NFL regular season pass today for Green Bay. Well done! :D
-Ski
Hobart's Ali Marpet was the seventh ranked starting Center in the NFL this year and the highest ranked Tampa Lineman , pretty good having never played Center before. Ended season on the IR, hopefully he will mend by next season....injury may impact his "early" resigning with TB until they know he is recovered.
Was watching a replay of this years NFL combine and DB Michael Joseph from University of Dubuque received an invite! Congrats to him, hopefully he can carve out a spot in the NFL!
EDIT: NFL Network interviewed Bill Belichick and he was wearing Johns hopkins sweatshirt. I googled if he had any connections there, knowing he was a Wesleyan grad with many D3 connections in coaching tree. Nothing much but and found this article, highlighting he is friends with the LAX coach at JHU.
https://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2017/3/3/14801500/why-is-bill-belichick-wearing-john-hopkins-lacrosse-gear-all-the-time
Quote from: Smitty Oom on March 09, 2018, 05:30:32 PM
Was watching a replay of this years NFL combine and DB Michael Joseph from University of Dubuque received an invite! Congrats to him, hopefully he can carve out a spot in the NFL!
EDIT: NFL Network interviewed Bill Belichick and he was wearing Johns hopkins sweatshirt. I googled if he had any connections there, knowing he was a Wesleyan grad with many D3 connections in coaching tree. Nothing much but and found this article, highlighting he is friends with the LAX coach at JHU.
https://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2017/3/3/14801500/why-is-bill-belichick-wearing-john-hopkins-lacrosse-gear-all-the-time
Very cool!
Somewhat related, Bill Belichick maintains some loose connections to Case Western Reserve. The football weight room is known as the "Belichick Varsity Weight Room" ... named after his father Steve who played for the team in the 1940s: http://www.cleveland.com/tipoff/index.ssf/2012/12/bill_belichick_makes_donation.html
in fact, one of Belichick's coaches was pulled from Case Western Reserve: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Schuplinski
Wesley's Matt Gono had 17 NFL scouts show up for a tryout. His future is looking pretty bright right now. Keeping my fingers crossed for the draft.
https://delawarestatenews.net/sports/nfl-scouts-flock-to-see-wesleys-gono/
-Ski
Quote from: Teamski on March 30, 2018, 11:06:47 AM
Wesley's Matt Gono had 17 NFL scouts show up for a tryout. His future is looking pretty bright right now. Keeping my fingers crossed for the draft.
https://delawarestatenews.net/sports/nfl-scouts-flock-to-see-wesleys-gono/
-Ski
If he's got 17 scouts showing up for a tryout I'd say he probably has a good shot, and it only takes one who really likes him to get his name called.
Any word on what's up with Joe Callahan since the Packers traded for Kizer?
Hendrix WR Nate Hodapp was invited to the University of Central Arkansas (Division 1 FCS) Pro Day last weekend. Hope it went well!
Quote from: HSCTiger74 on March 30, 2018, 02:39:27 PM
Quote from: Teamski on March 30, 2018, 11:06:47 AM
Wesley's Matt Gono had 17 NFL scouts show up for a tryout. His future is looking pretty bright right now. Keeping my fingers crossed for the draft.
https://delawarestatenews.net/sports/nfl-scouts-flock-to-see-wesleys-gono/
-Ski
If he's got 17 scouts showing up for a tryout I'd say he probably has a good shot, and it only takes one who really likes him to get his name called.
Any word on what's up with Joe Callahan since the Packers traded for Kizer?
Last I heard they decided to tender Joe for the time being. Looks like a QB competition is brewing between Hundley, Callahan and Kizer. Trade rumors have also been swirling around Hundley lately.
Goodluck to McKenrick of JCU:
Mason McKenrick hoping to be first John Carroll football player drafted since 1991
http://www.news-herald.com/sports/20180424/mason-mckenrick-hoping-to-be-first-john-carroll-football-player-drafted-since-1991
Keeping my fingers crossed for Matt Gono in the draft......Predictions show him in the 6th or 7th round.
-Ski
Oh well, at Least Gono got signed by Atlanta even if not drafted. Good luck Matt!
-Ski
University of Dubuque cornerback, Michael Joseph, signed as a free agent with the Chicago Bears.
Packers have cut Callahan, per ESPN
Quote from: WW on April 30, 2018, 02:57:42 PM
Packers have cut Callahan, per ESPN
As mentioned in another thread, Callahan signed a two year contract with the Eagles......
-Ski
Detroit Lions signed WR Deontez Alexander from Franklin College to a free agent contract.
There was an article in this morning's Janesville, WI paper about Derek Carrier going to the Raiders from the Rams. He also played for the Redskins. It says he went to Beloit College. I don't remember seeing his name before.
He is primarily a Special Teams specialist, but is listed as the #2 at TE.
Madden 19 is out and Ali Marpet of Hobart is ranked as the 11th starting RG and 51 out of 160 starting NFL linemen. There are some other rankings that have him as high as a top 5 Guard. He has started at RG for 2 years, Center last year and now moved to LG...with an injury free year he will be signing for beaucoup bucks with TB or new team. On his way to possibly being best D3 player in NFL, ever.
Would London Fletcher be that guy now? I'd probably put him ahead of Chris Warren. Probably forgetting someone huge here.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 31, 2018, 01:35:14 PM
Would London Fletcher be that guy now? I'd probably put him ahead of Chris Warren. Probably forgetting someone huge here.
Pierre Garcon? Coming up on a decade in the league. A 100+ reception season in 2013. Full season starter 4 times.
Don't get me wrong, I go Fletcher for his 4 Pro Bowl selections and his Lombardi Trophy, but Garcon has been a very solid player in the NFL for a long time.
Augie QB Kenny Anderson pre-dates D3 (but was 'essentially' D3) - NFL MVP is kind of a hard bar to beat!
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on July 31, 2018, 03:32:48 PM
Augie QB Kenny Anderson pre-dates D3 (but was 'essentially' D3) - NFL MVP is kind of a hard bar to beat!
I should have posted that I would delete any Kenny Anderson posts. You know better.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 31, 2018, 03:45:50 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on July 31, 2018, 03:32:48 PM
Augie QB Kenny Anderson pre-dates D3 (but was 'essentially' D3) - NFL MVP is kind of a hard bar to beat!
I should have posted that I would delete any Kenny Anderson posts. You know better.
Sorry, Pat. I didn't know the Jack Sikma rule also applied to Kenny Anderson.
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on July 31, 2018, 08:32:26 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 31, 2018, 03:45:50 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on July 31, 2018, 03:32:48 PM
Augie QB Kenny Anderson pre-dates D3 (but was 'essentially' D3) - NFL MVP is kind of a hard bar to beat!
I should have posted that I would delete any Kenny Anderson posts. You know better.
Sorry, Pat. I didn't know the Jack Sikma rule also applied to Kenny Anderson.
Why wouldn't it? Even *more* obvious considering that D-III didn't exist.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 31, 2018, 09:20:54 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on July 31, 2018, 08:32:26 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 31, 2018, 03:45:50 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on July 31, 2018, 03:32:48 PM
Augie QB Kenny Anderson pre-dates D3 (but was 'essentially' D3) - NFL MVP is kind of a hard bar to beat!
I should have posted that I would delete any Kenny Anderson posts. You know better.
Sorry, Pat. I didn't know the Jack Sikma rule also applied to Kenny Anderson.
Why wouldn't it? Even *more* obvious considering that D-III didn't exist.
But was Augie doing ANYTHING that would have violated D3 rules? If not, seems awfully arbitrary.
I understand your qualms, but prefer to think of D3 current members as D3 even before D3 (except for obvious situations like Big 10 Chicago back in the day).
What D-III rules? Come on now -- we have to have some common-sense definition of what a Division III player is and I'd have to think it starts by being someone who actually played in Division III.
Not that he qualifies as the greatest D3 player in the NFL, but Matt Turk from UWW punted in the league for 15+ years. 3 x Pro Bowl.
Like so many GOAT discussions, this comes down to a preference of peak vs. longevity.
Warren was one of the best RBs in football in 1994 and 1995. Only Sanders outrushed him in '94. Only Smith, Sanders, and Martin in '95. All of those guys are Hall of Famers. He's actually got more rushing yards than Hall-of-Famer Terrell Davis.
As a RB, of course, his career was short, and Fletcher was still an impact player into his late 30s.
Suffice to say, Fletcher had, IMO, the best career of a D-III player, but Warren was the better player at his peak
Quote from: emma17 on August 01, 2018, 02:19:25 PM
Not that he qualifies as the greatest D3 player in the NFL, but Matt Turk from UWW punted in the league for 15+ years. 3 x Pro Bowl.
Tough position to qualify for this discussion, but that is a very impressive career. He certainly deserves the mention.
To add some more names to the discussion, I had a look through the Pro Football Reference (https://www.pro-football-reference.com) site and after grabbing every player listed from a current D3 school (so the list isn't 100% accurate as I didn't get schools that used to be D3 but aren't now, possibly included players who played at a school that's now D3 but wasn't when they played, included players who may have attended a D3 school for only part of their college years, and of course some information could simply be wrong on their site) and taking out anyone in the league before 1974 (first Stagg Bowl was 1973 so that's where I set the cutoff), then sorting by the site's Career Approximate Value... the top players I found were:
Pos | Name | School | AP1 | PB | CarAV | Yrs | Seasons |
LB | London Fletcher | John Carroll | 0 | 4 | 101 | 16 | 1998-2013 |
C-G | Joe Fields | Rutgers-Camden/Widener | 1 | 2 | 80 | 14 | 1975-1988 |
G-C | Tom Newberry | UW-LaCrosse | 2 | 2 | 72 | 10 | 1986-1995 |
LB | Steve Nelson | Augsburg | 0 | 3 | 70 | 14 | 1974-1987 |
RB | Chris Warren | Ferrum | 0 | 3 | 59 | 11 | 1990-2000 |
LB | Joel Williams | UW-LaCrosse | 0 | 0 | 56 | 11 | 1979-1989 |
WR | Pierre Garcon | Mount Union | 0 | 0 | 53 | 10 | 2008-2017 |
DE-LB | Kim Bokamper | Concordia-Moorhead | 0 | 1 | 49 | 9 | 1977-1985 |
RB | Fred Jackson | Coe | 0 | 0 | 48 | 9 | 2007-2015 |
WR | Billy Johnson | Widener | 1 | 3 | 46 | 14 | 1974-1988 |
AP1-1st Team All Pro
PB-Pro Bowls
Others who were high in certain categories:
1st Team All Pro:
Pos | Name | School | AP1 | PB | CarAV | Yrs | Seasons |
G-C | Tom Newberry | UW-LaCrosse | 2 | 2 | 72 | 10 | 1986-1995 |
P | Dave Jennings | St Lawrence | 2 | 4 | 28 | 14 | 1974-1987 |
C-G | Joe Fields | Rutgers-Camden/Widener | 1 | 2 | 80 | 14 | 1975-1988 |
WR | Billy Johnson | Widener | 1 | 3 | 46 | 14 | 1974-1988 |
K | Olindo Mare | MacMurray | 1 | 1 | 34 | 16 | 1997-2012 |
P | Matt Turk | UW-Whitewater | 1 | 3 | 21 | 16 | 1995-2011 |
Pro Bowls:
Pos | Name | School | AP1 | PB | CarAV | Yrs | Seasons |
P | Dave Jennings | St Lawrence | 2 | 4 | 28 | 14 | 1974-1987 |
LB | London Fletcher | John Carroll | 0 | 4 | 101 | 16 | 1998-2013 |
WR | Billy Johnson | Widener | 1 | 3 | 46 | 14 | 1974-1988 |
P | Matt Turk | UW-Whitewater | 1 | 3 | 21 | 16 | 1995-2011 |
LB | Steve Nelson | Augsburg | 0 | 3 | 70 | 14 | 1974-1987 |
RB | Chris Warren | Ferrum | 0 | 3 | 59 | 11 | 1990-2000 |
G-C | Tom Newberry | UW-LaCrosse | 2 | 2 | 72 | 10 | 1986-1995 |
C-G | Joe Fields | Rutgers-Camden/Widener | 1 | 2 | 80 | 14 | 1975-1988 |
K | Olindo Mare | MacMurray | 1 | 1 | 34 | 16 | 1997-2012 |
DE-LB | Kim Bokamper | Concordia-Moorhead | 0 | 1 | 49 | 9 | 1977-1985 |
11+ Seasons Played:
Pos | Name | School | AP1 | PB | CarAV | Yrs | Seasons |
LB | London Fletcher | John Carroll | 0 | 4 | 101 | 16 | 1998-2013 |
P | Matt Turk | UW-Whitewater | 1 | 3 | 21 | 16 | 1995-2011 |
K | Olindo Mare | MacMurray | 1 | 1 | 34 | 16 | 1997-2012 |
TE | Pete Metzelaars | Wabash | 0 | 0 | 27 | 16 | 1982-1997 |
P | Dave Jennings | St Lawrence | 2 | 4 | 28 | 14 | 1974-1987 |
WR | Billy Johnson | Widener | 1 | 3 | 46 | 14 | 1974-1988 |
LB | Steve Nelson | Augsburg | 0 | 3 | 70 | 14 | 1974-1987 |
C-G | Joe Fields | Rutgers-Camden/Widener | 1 | 2 | 80 | 14 | 1975-1988 |
DB | Tim Hauck | Pacific | 0 | 0 | 16 | 13 | 1990-2002 |
RB | Chris Warren | Ferrum | 0 | 3 | 59 | 11 | 1990-2000 |
LB | Joel Williams | UW-LaCrosse | 0 | 0 | 56 | 11 | 1979-1989 |
T | Shelby Jordan | Washington U | 0 | 0 | 41 | 11 | 1975-1986 |
DT-DE | Barry Bennett | Concordia-Moorhead | 0 | 0 | 31 | 11 | 1978-1988 |
+k FCG. Some great research there.
I think another name to recognize for NFL longevity is rb Jim Jodat of Carthage College. He played 7 seasons in the NFL including a Super Bowl appearance. Playing 7 seasons in the NFL as a running back and special teams captain is way past the longevity of most rb.
Grizzlies grad ,
Fantasic work on this subject, +k....a lot more good D3 players in the NFL than I originally thought...as they say, not too shabby . I am thinking that London Fletcher gets the nod based on the data with 4 Pro Bowls and 16 years in the league. A past Liberty Leaguer(although I think it was UAA back then) made the list with 4 Pro Bowls, Dave Jennings of St. Lawrence, unbelievable punter(also NYG Hall of Fame) and he played WR for SLU. Based on this list , Ali Marpet has promise but he has a long way to go to compare to many of these NFLers with Joe Fields as probably the best OL for Ali to shoot for first . Next, Ali needs to surpass the best LL player, Dave Jenning's four Pro Bowls. One thing, I am sure he will surpass on his next contract, barring injury, is $$$. Thanks for this very interesting analysis of D3 in the NFL..
Definitely a great list. Learned a lot!
Has been some good stories on social media about Jake Kumerow, Michael Joseph and Joe Callahan who are under the radar, but still in the league.
Jerrell Freeman of UMHB had a decent run, playing for 7 seasons with the Titans, Colts and Bears as well as 3 seasons in the CFL with the Roughriders.
Jake Kumerow with a 52 yard TD reception in Green Bay's first pre-season game!
Joe Callahan played the second half for the Eagles in their game against the Steelers tonight. After a slow start including a fumble, he had a pretty good run of plays to finish the game up. Once he got warmed up and moved around, he was a lot more effective.
-Ski
Watched Callahan, actually had 2 fumbles and one lost with a pass rating of 60.2, at least no INTs. I think he is playing for a shot somewhere else as I don't see him making it with the Eagles unless there is an injury to one of the other 3 QBs. I hope I am wrong, as I like his attitude and he has mobility and seems to have good field presence.
Quote from: Teamski on August 10, 2018, 01:18:43 AM
Joe Callahan played the second half for the Eagles in their game against the Steelers tonight. After a slow start including a fumble, he had a pretty good run of plays to finish the game up. Once he got warmed up and moved around, he was a lot more effective.
-Ski
I had to turn it off! I was too nervous for him. That's good he cleaned it up. One of those fumbles he was charged with was a snap over his head. The other one the defender flat out beat the tackle (Mailata?). Hopefully he can clean it up next week and the week after in Cleveland (I am going to try and get there).
Quote from: thewaterboy on August 10, 2018, 04:32:41 PM
Quote from: Teamski on August 10, 2018, 01:18:43 AM
Joe Callahan played the second half for the Eagles in their game against the Steelers tonight. After a slow start including a fumble, he had a pretty good run of plays to finish the game up. Once he got warmed up and moved around, he was a lot more effective.
-Ski
I had to turn it off! I was too nervous for him. That's good he cleaned it up. One of those fumbles he was charged with was a snap over his head. The other one the defender flat out beat the tackle (Mailata?). Hopefully he can clean it up next week and the week after in Cleveland (I am going to try and get there).
While it's great that Callahan is here, the facts are that The 3 qb positions are set. Hopefully he can do well enough to be picked up by another team (barring an injury to an Eagles qb).
I believe that Joe was signed for the practice squad IIRC. All he can do is make each snap count. When he starts moving his opportunities open up. A couple throws showed his slinger style though which can be tricky to say the least. Once again, the announcers were impressed with his abilities which is always good to see.
-Ski
Our local NFL team runs brief league stats on the smaller boards during the games and it looks as though Jake Kumerow had quite a game against the Steelers this week. As a matter of fact he was (as of last night) the leading receiver in the league for the first two preseason games. Do any of the WIAC folks have details?
Quote from: HSCTiger74 on August 18, 2018, 01:18:42 PM
Our local NFL team runs brief league stats on the smaller boards during the games and it looks as though Jake Kumerow had quite a game against the Steelers this week. As a matter of fact he was (as of last night) the leading receiver in the league for the first two preseason games. Do any of the WIAC folks have details?
No real details other than he's had a pretty strong camp and seems to be liked by that insurance salesman QB up there. He had a long touchdown the first game and now the 82 yarder. Hopefully he didn't seriously injure his shoulder.
https://www.packers.com/news/jake-kumerow-continues-to-make-a-statement (https://www.packers.com/news/jake-kumerow-continues-to-make-a-statement)
Callahan looked pretty good for the Eagles tonight, engineering the winning TD with 2 minutes remaining. He can step and throw accurately , no doubt. He helped his chances tonight in extending his NFL career. Frankly, I like Joe better than the Jets rookie starter.
Quote from: Bartman on August 30, 2018, 11:21:13 PM
Callahan looked pretty good for the Eagles tonight, engineering the winning TD with 2 minutes remaining. He can step and throw accurately , no doubt. He helped his chances tonight in extending his NFL career. Frankly, I like Joe better than the Jets rookie starter.
And with that, Callahan was released by the Eagles today. Keeping my fingers crossed that he gets picked up elsewhere. No doubt, he has the talent.
-Ski
Quote from: Teamski on August 31, 2018, 03:57:09 PM
Quote from: Bartman on August 30, 2018, 11:21:13 PM
Callahan looked pretty good for the Eagles tonight, engineering the winning TD with 2 minutes remaining. He can step and throw accurately , no doubt. He helped his chances tonight in extending his NFL career. Frankly, I like Joe better than the Jets rookie starter.
And with that, Callahan was released by the Eagles today. Keeping my fingers crossed that he gets picked up elsewhere. No doubt, he has the talent.
-Ski
Word is that they cut Callahan to make him practice squad eligble if he clears waivers in 24 hours. They seem to want him as the 4th qb. I was at the game last night and he looked food. A couple bad throws, but on the whole way more good passes than bad. And compared to the disaster Hackenberg was...
I guess we'll know shortly if he still will be an Eagle...
Big time congrads to Wesley's Matt Gono for making the Atlanta Falcons' 53 man roster! Way to go man! Booyeah! :D
-Ski
UW-Platteville receiver Dan Arnold made the 53-man roster for the New Orleans Saints.
Looks like Jake Kumerow made the initial 53 man roster for the Packers.
Seems like a good year for DIII in the NFL.....
-Ski
I noticed that Alex Tanney of Monmouth (IL) is still hanging in there, making the Giants' 53 man roster.
Quote from: HSCTiger74 on September 04, 2018, 10:20:49 AM
I noticed that Alex Tanney of Monmouth (IL) is still hanging in there, making the Giants' 53 man roster.
Tanney looked good in preseason and deserved his spot.....although I hope the Giants never need him to play
Ali Marpet , Hobart and TB Bucs, is currently the third highest ranked Olineman in the entire NFL as per Pro Football Focus, as of week #3...this should be his ProBowl year
Quote from: Bartman on October 02, 2018, 06:25:20 PM
Ali Marpet , Hobart and TB Bucs, is currently the third highest ranked Olineman in the entire NFL as per Pro Football Focus, as of week #3...this should be his ProBowl year
He just signed a 5 year extension: https://es.pn/2RDvWKs
$54 million. $26.8 million guaranteed
Quote from: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on October 09, 2018, 09:11:34 PM
Quote from: Bartman on October 02, 2018, 06:25:20 PM
Ali Marpet , Hobart and TB Bucs, is currently the third highest ranked Olineman in the entire NFL as per Pro Football Focus, as of week #3...this should be his ProBowl year
He just signed a 5 year extension: https://es.pn/2RDvWKs
$54 million. $26.8 million guaranteed
He was humble enough to attend the Hobart-Union game in Geneva on his bye week this Saturday. A total class guy that came out on the field for the Geneva youth program kids at half time. Proud to call him a Statesman .
Quote from: Bartman on October 10, 2018, 10:17:45 AM
Quote from: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on October 09, 2018, 09:11:34 PM
Quote from: Bartman on October 02, 2018, 06:25:20 PM
Ali Marpet , Hobart and TB Bucs, is currently the third highest ranked Olineman in the entire NFL as per Pro Football Focus, as of week #3...this should be his ProBowl year
He just signed a 5 year extension: https://es.pn/2RDvWKs
$54 million. $26.8 million guaranteed
He was humble enough to attend the Hobart-Union game in Geneva on his bye week this Saturday. A total class guy that came out on the field for the Geneva youth program kids at half time. Proud to call him a Statesman .
Witfoot has come a long way!
I miss Whittfoot....he was just a friendly Wittenberg player who had heard that Ali Marpet was awesome....he was right ;)
Only 3 of the 520 roster spots in the AAF went to former D3FB guys. I don't know why, but I honestly thought this league would be a good place for D3 kids with pro aspirations to catch on. Not so much.
Guys selected were Heidelberg's Donteea Dye (played on Bucs) by Orlando, NC Wesleyan's Dwayne Hollis (Philly Soul) by Atlanta, and Jake Payne (Shenandoah, played in AFL) by Birmingham.
Quote from: ITH radio on January 31, 2019, 03:34:49 PM
Only 3 of the 520 roster spots in the AAF went to former D3FB guys. I don't know why, but I honestly thought this league would be a good place for D3 kids with pro aspirations to catch on. Not so much.
Guys selected were Heidelberg's Donteea Dye (played on Bucs) by Orlando, NC Wesleyan's Dwayne Hollis (Philly Soul) by Atlanta, and Jake Payne (Shenandoah, played in AFL) by Birmingham.
I posted a while ago the AAF is going to live or die by how much local support it can attract. Having big name college players that washed out of the NFL is going to draw more of a crowd than a better roster of no name D3 players. Especially in the first years. That is just the reality.People will pay for one more view of their favorite college player from Football Factory U.
https://www.bclions.com/2019/02/05/lions-add-three-internationals-roster/
It not ehre NFL or even the CFL, However it is still Professional Football. Mason Espinosa of OWU fame is still playing. He is the QB of the Columbus Lions in the National Arena League.
http://www.nationalarenaleague.com/rosters/columbus-lions/193-mason-espinosa.html
http://columbuslions.net/team/roster/index.html?player_id=2
He looks to be doing fairly well.
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on February 28, 2019, 02:04:31 PM
It not ehre NFL or even the CFL, However it is still Professional Football. Mason Espinosa of OWU fame is still playing. He is the QB of the Columbus Lions in the National Arena League.
http://www.nationalarenaleague.com/rosters/columbus-lions/193-mason-espinosa.html
http://columbuslions.net/team/roster/index.html?player_id=2
He looks to be doing fairly well.
Mason moved up to the AFL. He signed with the Albany Empire.
Quote
Mason Espinosa, Quarterback
Though he may be a rookie to the AFL, Mason Espinosa brings plenty of indoor football experience to the Empire. Espinosa played his college ball at Ohio Wesleyan where he was a four-time All-NCAC selection and Conference Player of the Year in 2012. He holds numerous school and Conference records including career passing yards (11,069), and total yards (10,839). After college, Espinosa had partaken in various Pro Days with NFL teams, as well as, a minicamp with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Shortly after his stint in the NFL, the quarterback joined the Erie Explosion of the Professional Indoor Football League (PIFL). He jumped from the American Indoor Football League, to the IFL before landing in the National Arena League with the Columbus Lions in 2017 and remaining there for the past two seasons.
http://thealbanyempire.com/news/story/?id=14012
After recovering from an injury, Jake Payne of Shenandoah U has been playing well for the Birmingham Iron in the AAF. Going to try and see him when they come here to Orlando in a couple of weeks. Donteaa Dye of Heidelberg is also in that game, as he's made some good plays as a WR for the Apollos.
News releases say that the AAF is folding. I lost interest when so few DIII guys made any of the rosters. Too bad, it seemed like a good concept at the onset. I guess we wait for the XFL next year.
Quote from: ITH radio on March 27, 2019, 10:33:27 AM
After recovering from an injury, Jake Payne of Shenandoah U has been playing well for the Birmingham Iron in the AAF. Going to try and see him when they come here to Orlando in a couple of weeks. Donteaa Dye of Heidelberg is also in that game, as he's made some good plays as a WR for the Apollos.
Oh man. Hope you didn't purchase those tickets in advance, JB.
We did not. Speaking to Jake later today. Curious to get his reaction on how everything went down.
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 12, 2019, 11:20:59 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on February 28, 2019, 02:04:31 PM
It not ehre NFL or even the CFL, However it is still Professional Football. Mason Espinosa of OWU fame is still playing. He is the QB of the Columbus Lions in the National Arena League.
http://www.nationalarenaleague.com/rosters/columbus-lions/193-mason-espinosa.html
http://columbuslions.net/team/roster/index.html?player_id=2
He looks to be doing fairly well.
Mason moved up to the AFL. He signed with the Albany Empire.
Quote
Mason Espinosa, Quarterback
Though he may be a rookie to the AFL, Mason Espinosa brings plenty of indoor football experience to the Empire. Espinosa played his college ball at Ohio Wesleyan where he was a four-time All-NCAC selection and Conference Player of the Year in 2012. He holds numerous school and Conference records including career passing yards (11,069), and total yards (10,839). After college, Espinosa had partaken in various Pro Days with NFL teams, as well as, a minicamp with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Shortly after his stint in the NFL, the quarterback joined the Erie Explosion of the Professional Indoor Football League (PIFL). He jumped from the American Indoor Football League, to the IFL before landing in the National Arena League with the Columbus Lions in 2017 and remaining there for the past two seasons.
http://thealbanyempire.com/news/story/?id=14012
Columbus must have a thing for DIII QB's. We went to see them last night and their current QB is Luke Collis of Occidental. Looks like he was a senior on the 2011 team. The backup is listed as Mitch Kidd of Redlands who was a senior on the 2017 team.
Delaware Valley grad Rasheed Bailey will be on the Winnipeg Blue Bombers this CFL season, which I believe is starting this week.
Catching up on off season NFL signings , I noticed that the Giants signed Jake Ceresna from Edmonton of the CFL who was a 2016 graduate of Cortland State. Good luck to this 6'5" 295 pound DE Cortland Dragon with the BIG BLUE....hey, CORTACA at MetLife Stadium this year and maybe a Dragon on the permanent roster.
Quote from: Hawks88 on June 02, 2019, 10:23:17 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on March 12, 2019, 11:20:59 AM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on February 28, 2019, 02:04:31 PM
It not ehre NFL or even the CFL, However it is still Professional Football. Mason Espinosa of OWU fame is still playing. He is the QB of the Columbus Lions in the National Arena League.
http://www.nationalarenaleague.com/rosters/columbus-lions/193-mason-espinosa.html
http://columbuslions.net/team/roster/index.html?player_id=2
He looks to be doing fairly well.
Mason moved up to the AFL. He signed with the Albany Empire.
Quote
Mason Espinosa, Quarterback
Though he may be a rookie to the AFL, Mason Espinosa brings plenty of indoor football experience to the Empire. Espinosa played his college ball at Ohio Wesleyan where he was a four-time All-NCAC selection and Conference Player of the Year in 2012. He holds numerous school and Conference records including career passing yards (11,069), and total yards (10,839). After college, Espinosa had partaken in various Pro Days with NFL teams, as well as, a minicamp with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Shortly after his stint in the NFL, the quarterback joined the Erie Explosion of the Professional Indoor Football League (PIFL). He jumped from the American Indoor Football League, to the IFL before landing in the National Arena League with the Columbus Lions in 2017 and remaining there for the past two seasons.
http://thealbanyempire.com/news/story/?id=14012
Columbus must have a thing for DIII QB's. We went to see them last night and their current QB is Luke Collis of Occidental. Looks like he was a senior on the 2011 team. The backup is listed as Mitch Kidd of Redlands who was a senior on the 2017 team.
Due to injuries Columbus has picked up another DIII QB, Bryan Hicks who was a senior for Southwestern in 2016.
Was happy to see Alex Tanney getting some good time with the Giants last night. The two picks he threw probably didn't help but with Jones and Manning on the roster, Tanney can't be looking for much more than some tape again. He was the primary backup last year and had a 2 year contract, but drafting Jones relegated him again. Got to give him credit though. He's 7 years and 9 different teams (counting TN twice) into an NFL career and has had some regular season game time. Not many people anywhere can say that.
Sorry if this has been discussed. Just wondering if the new league will open more opportunities for more DIII players next
year. supposedly the league will be real football and not the goofy things that Vince McMahon did with his last football adventure
Quote from: jknezek on August 30, 2019, 11:40:55 AM
Was happy to see Alex Tanney getting some good time with the Giants last night. The two picks he threw probably didn't help but with Jones and Manning on the roster, Tanney can't be looking for much more than some tape again. He was the primary backup last year and had a 2 year contract, but drafting Jones relegated him again. Got to give him credit though. He's 7 years and 9 different teams (counting TN twice) into an NFL career and has had some regular season game time. Not many people anywhere can say that.
I'm not sure what will happen after they go through the waiver list, but for now the Giants have kept him on their 53 man roster.
Article from Sept 5th:
https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2019-09-02/players-diii-football-programs-2019-nfl-rosters
I am reviving this topic in honor of Ali Marpet, 2015 Hobart grad, and starting left guard for the Super Bowl bound Tampa Bay Bucaneers ....Ali has not allowed Tom Brady to be sacked(actually over 1000 snaps without giving up a sack) and has been rated one of the top OLmen in the game .....the highest drafted D3 player(#61 in 2015) and one of the greatest D3 players to make it in the NFL .....GOBART!
Quote from: Bartman on January 27, 2021, 06:21:42 AM
I am reviving this topic in honor of Ali Marpet, 2015 Hobart grad, and starting left guard for the Super Bowl bound Tampa Bay Bucaneers ....Ali has not allowed Tom Brady to be sacked(actually over 1000 snaps without giving up a sack) and has been rated one of the top OLmen in the game .....the highest drafted D3 player(#61 in 2015) and one of the greatest D3 players to make it in the NFL .....GOBART!
Bartman
Thanks for the info on Ali Marpet. Always good to see one of our Dlll guys make it big (or even make it at all)! I will certainly keep my eyes on him during the Super Bowl.
Go Ali and Go Dlll ‼️ 🏈
With the 98th pick in the 2021 NFL Draft, the Denver Broncos select Quinn Meinerz, offensive lineman from UW-Whitewater.
Not quite the NFL, but D'Angelo Fulford from Mount Union signed with the BC Lions in the CFL. Also, Blake Jackson from UMHB signed with the Winnipeg Blue Bombers.
Looks like we might might be able to watch the two alums face off on July 30, August 26, and October 30.
another UWW lineman, undrafted free agent Nate Trewyn, signed with the Dolphins.
Guess I'll bump this thread up instead of starting a new one. USFL draft is tonight/tomorrow. I know quite a few d3 guys have signed contracts to be in the draft pool. Hopefully some get drafted! Here is a list of the positions being drafted in each round:
Day 1
Round 1: Quarterbacks
Rounds 2-4: Edge rushers/defensive ends
Rounds 5-7: Offensive tackles
Rounds 8-11: Cornerbacks
Round 12: Quarterbacks
Day 2
Rounds 13-17: Wide receivers
Rounds 18-19: Safeties
Round 20: Centers
Round 21: Inside linebackers
Rounds 22-23: Offensive guards
Rounds 24-26: Defensive tackles and nose tackles
Rounds 27-28: Running backs and fullbacks
Rounds 29-31: Outside linebackers
Round 32: Kickers
Round 33: Punters
Round 34: Tight ends/H-backs
Round 35: Long snappers
Living in the Birmingham area, I will be watching to see who goes where. Actually, kind of interested on who some of the "who's" are. Without any media surrounding the pool of players, it will be a complete guess on who might be drafted.
Hoping to see some local flavor, especially since it is being played in our back yard.
Bryan Scott of Occidental to the USFL Philadelphia Stars.
Haston Adams of UMHB to the Birmingham Stallions!
McMurry DB Karl Scott (2006 - 2009) is the new defensive passing game coordinator and defensive backs coach of the Seattle Seahawks.
https://www.bigcountryhomepage.com/sports/seattle-seahawks-add-mcmurry-alum-karl-scott-to-staff/
Bryan Scott was the 3rd QB selected.
Haston Adams was the 11th player picked in the DT/NT rounds
Keith Gipson of UMHB to the Pittsburgh Maulers (USFL)
Amani Dennis of Carthage to the Philadelphia Stars (USFL)
NFL Draft is coming soon. Any D3 prospects we should expect?
Any D3 guys selected or invited to camps ?
Quote from: Crawford on May 01, 2022, 12:03:47 AM
Any D3 guys selected or invited to camps ?
So far the only one I've seen is Joshua Onujiogu from Framingham State.
Seeing reports that UW-River Falls TE Ben Beise to the Bucs.
Can't believe Fritz is not getting a shot.
Quote from: SW1 on May 01, 2022, 03:02:45 PM
Can't believe Fritz is not getting a shot.
Still early.
UW-Whiewater's Wisniewski was invited to the Packers mini camp.
Couple of others as well. Here's the list so far:
https://d3football.com/notables/2022/04/framingham-state-onujiogu-call-from-seahawks
I see Washington U. CB Andrew Whitaker is an invite to the Packers rookie minicamp on the 6th and 7th.
Quote from: Baldini on May 04, 2022, 09:50:57 PM
I see Washington U. CB Andrew Whitaker is an invite to the Packers rookie minicamp on the 6th and 7th.
Add St. Norbert Safety Kendall Karcz to the list of D3 players invited to try out for the Packers starting tomorrow. That makes 3 in Green Bay now.
Karcz has been on the list on our page for a few days. Adding Andrew Kamienski today! Invited to the Texans minicamp.
Hobart CB Jared Leake was invitet to Giants rookie camp....
When you're invited to a minicamp, what are the odds of actually making a starting roster???
Quote from: TromboneJB on May 06, 2022, 07:40:07 PM
When you're invited to a minicamp, what are the odds of actually making a starting roster???
The invite to the rookie minicamp is just a tryout in hopes to land a spot on the 90-man training camp roster. Most teams bring in around 20 invites for the rookie minicamp with one or two spots available. The odds are long just to get a training camp spot for a tryout player no less making the 53-man regular season roster.
Looks like a few D3 alumnus on the initial MLFB rosters:
Alabama Airborne:
Tyrus Black TE Belhaven
Max Meylor QB UW-W
Arkansas Attack
Reggie Cole DE UMHB
David Meza TE Carroll
Ohio Force:
David Simmons Jr. CB North Park
Devin Childress WR North Park
Virginia Armada:
Clay Dzizkan LS UW-Stout
D'Angelo Fulford QB Mount Union
Clark Riedel P UW-Stout
Shymere Vesels DT Delaware Valley
Wiht more of these minor league leagues popping up, more guys should get an opportunity to at least get paid to play professional football. There are also some leagues in Europe, but I'm not real sure how organized some of them are.
Quote from: Etchglow on July 22, 2022, 12:03:29 PM
Looks like a few D3 alumnus on the initial MLFB rosters:
Alabama Airborne:
Tyrus Black TE Belhaven
Max Meylor QB UW-W
Arkansas Attack
Reggie Cole DE UMHB
David Meza TE Carroll
Ohio Force:
David Simmons Jr. CB North Park
Devin Childress WR North Park
Virginia Armada:
Clay Dzizkan LS UW-Stout
D'Angelo Fulford QB Mount Union
Clark Riedel P UW-Stout
Shymere Vesels DT Delaware Valley
Hope for the best for these leagues but for as football crazed as the US seems, it also seems like nothing catches on other than NFL, then college football and then NFL offseason haha. One thing I thought was very smart about the USFL is all the teams are based in the same city so there is no travel expenses which have to be quite large.
https://xflnewsroom.com/news/what-we-know-about-the-mlfb-right-now-is-it-over/ (https://xflnewsroom.com/news/what-we-know-about-the-mlfb-right-now-is-it-over/)
Nicholas Morrow (Greenville) will be the starting Mike and wear the green dot for the Chicago Bears. Pretty wild to go from OL/DL in high school, to hybrid safety at GU to signal caller for the Chicago Bears. While the Bears are of little consequence in the NFL these days, it is pretty wild to fill the same position as some of the greats to ever do it. Morrow will wear #53. Former Bears Mike linebackers 50, 51 and 54 are all Pro Football HOF. :)
Joshua Onujiogu, once a free agent, makes 53 man roster for the Seahawks!
Six D3 players made the 53-man rosters:
Dan Arnold – TE – Wisconsin–Platteville – Jaguars
Ben Bartch – G – St. John's – Jaguars
Jake Kumerow – WR – Wisconsin–Whitewater – Bills
Quinn Meinerz – G – Wisconsin–Whitewater – Broncos
Nicholas Morrow – LB – Greenville – Bears
Josh Onujiogu – LB – Framingham State – Seahawks
(This does not include anyone who transferred to a non-D3 school.)
Quote from: Inkblot on August 31, 2022, 03:48:54 PM
Six D3 players made the 53-man rosters:
Dan Arnold – TE – Wisconsin–Platteville – Jaguars
Ben Bartch – G – St. John's – Jaguars
Jake Kumerow – WR – Wisconsin–Whitewater – Bills
Quinn Meinerz – G – Wisconsin–Whitewater – Broncos
Nicholas Morrow – LB – Greenville – Bears
Josh Onujiogu – LB – Framingham State – Seahawks
(This does not include anyone who transferred to a non-D3 school.)
Joshua Onujiogu was cut today :'( :'( :'(
Trivia question for the board (I don't know the answer): who was the last Div III quarterback to be drafted into the NFL.
Kenny Anderson was drafted in '71. Surely there was a quarterback drafted since then.
Quote from: Martindale on September 01, 2022, 08:49:00 AM
Trivia question for the board (I don't know the answer): who was the last Div III quarterback to be drafted into the NFL.
Kenny Anderson was drafted in '71. Surely there was a quarterback drafted since then.
Pretty sure none drafted. Some were signed to Mini Camp or other FA offers.
Aaron Nelson from Delaware Valley drafted by the Houston Roughnecks of the XFL.
Donteea Dye from Heidelberg drafted by St. Louis Battlehawks.
Kendall Karcz from St Norbert drafted by Seattle Sea Dragons.
Xfl d3 guys:
Arlington Renegades
Taylor Russolino Millsaps
Houston Roughnecks
Aaron Nelson Delaware Valley
Brian Khoury Carnegie-Mellon
Orlando Guardians
Tommy Auger St. John's
Mitch Kidd Redlands
St Louis Battlehawks
Domteea Eye Heidelberg
Seattle Sea Dragons
Kendall Karcz St. Norbert
Blake Jackson UMHB
XFL Supplemental draft was today.
St. Louis
Alexander Matheson - Cal Lutheran
Seattle
Ben Beise - UWRF
Still very surprised that at least to my knowledge Jefferson Fritiz has never gotten far enough along in the process with any professional football team to be known about.
Quote from: crufootball on January 02, 2023, 11:21:01 AM
Still very surprised that at least to my knowledge Jefferson Fritiz has never gotten far enough along in the process with any professional football team to be known about.
I think Fritz's size works against him at the next level the most. I saw an article that said KJ Miller will be participating in the College Grid Iron Showcase on January 6-8 in Fort Worth, Texas.
You see a few guys signing into leagues in Europe ... have to wonder if that is an option if you don't have a job lined up over there already as I can't imagine they pay anything resembling a living wage. Plus there is a limit on the number of non-EU players, at least in the German Football League (https://gfl.info/) and likely any other EU organization.
Quote from: Ron Boerger on January 14, 2023, 08:50:12 AM
You see a few guys signing into leagues in Europe ... have to wonder if that is an option if you don't have a job lined up over there already as I can't imagine they pay anything resembling a living wage. Plus there is a limit on the number of non-EU players, at least in the German Football League (https://gfl.info/) and likely any other EU organization.
I think the gfl only allows 3 Americans per team. The Saarland Hurricanes have signed Kyle King and Andrew Kamienski. I think their games are streamed for free on YouTube. Might be fun to watch that pair together. Hunter Schmidt who graduated from UMHB in 2016 played over there for years.
Pat's favorite QB signed with the Vegas Vipers of the XFL yesterday
https://xflnewshub.com/xfl-news/the-vegas-vipers-sign-qb-dangelo-fulford-make-2-other-moves/
So another year without a D3 NFL draftee. Players I've seen listed as minicamp invites include...
Chicago Bears
Chris Toth - OT - Aurora
Todd Simmons Jr - WR - Dubuque
New York Giants
Ike Irabor - RB - Union
New York Jets
Anthony Kendall - DB - Baldwin Wallace
Anthony Kendall also got an invite to the Browns Rookie Minicamp.
Travis Sinclair from Bethel has a Vikings Mini-camp invite.
Arlington Renegades Ike Irabor RB Union
Arlington Renegades Todd Simmons WR Dubuque
San Antonio Brahmas Nazier Wright LB William Paterson
All got claimed by XFL teams. I don't think I saw anyone drafted in the actual draft. UMHB homer here, but surprised no one picked KJ Miller up...
Nicholas Morrow - #41 on the E-A-G-L-E-S is having a heck of a start to the season. He is the #3 ranked LB in football by PFF and had 11 tackles, 3 sacks and a FF last weekend in the win over the Commanders. Attaway Nick! Way to rep GU and d3!