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Title: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on July 03, 2013, 12:38:32 AM
What school's have reloaded? Should we expect to see some different outcomes in 2013?

You can't ignore the season the Duhawks put together last year. Sure they lost some 4-year starters, but Rothert & Co. have established a deep and dangerous squad. Every player except for any incoming freshman has game experience under their belt, including NCAA Tournament experience. A large majority of the core that was responsible for the team's run to the Final Four will be returning, including 2012 IIAC MVP Kevin Cavers and Dylan Milkent who was perfect in regular season IIAC play (0.00 GAA).

Interested to see what Tyler Neumann (Simpson) will accomplish this year after finishing with 12 goals, 9 assists, and a 2nd team all-conference selection.

For the Spartans, they return their #2 goal scorer in Cory Winkler (9G, 3A) and Brandon Wiley, who led the team in assists (8).

Wartburg returns their leading goal scorer and 3rd Team All-Conference Selection Zubeen Azari (8G, 3A).

Based purely on speculation, here is my prediction on how 2013 will finish in the IIAC:

1. Loras (7-0)
2. Wartburg (6-1)
3. Luther (5-2)
4. Central (4-3)
5. Dubuque (3-4)
6. Simpson (3-4)
7. Coe (1-6)
8. Buena Vista (0-7)
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: doolittledog on July 07, 2013, 09:44:40 AM
You didn't put Dubuque last???  You're growing soft in your old age ;)

Loras 7-0
Dubuque 6-1
Luther 5-2
Central 4-3
Wartburg 3-4
Simpson 2-5
Coe 1-6
BVU 0-7

At end of season it will be assumed Loras wins all the time, not because of superior coaching and players...but because they play on turf.  All IIAC schools with a dedicated soccer facility with a grass field will be converted in the spring to turf.  Loras then announces their return to Faber Field and it's grass surface.  All other IIAC schools reply with "D'oh"
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on July 07, 2013, 12:53:18 PM
What about the turf at BVU, Coe, Simpson, and Wartburg? Ironically, those "turf-clubs" are the bottom four of your prediction.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: doolittledog on July 07, 2013, 06:31:04 PM
Last I knew BVU and Wartburg played on grass fields...not sharing the football field.  Only Coe, Simpson, and Loras played on turf shared with the football team. 
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: d3fan1 on July 07, 2013, 09:20:14 PM
If you go on quality of fields Central would be #1. I think everyone who is being honest has to pick Loras on top. Other than Wheaton, they will be the best team in the region. After Loras it should be up for grabs. here goes my "homer" pick though:

1. Loras -clearly the best
2. Central - mediorcre year,but came on strong at the end of the year and scared Loras. Needs a scorer
3. Dubuque- Always a tough game.
4. Wartburg - great tradition, but not what they used to be.
5. Luther - Glory of a couple years ago will be hard to repeat
6. Simpson - always on the cusp of breaking through, never does.
7. Coe - they always have BV to beat up on.
8. BV - to bad BV no more Cornell.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on July 07, 2013, 11:27:32 PM
@doolittledog I believe BVU got turf in 2011, but you are correct, Wartburg is still playing on grass.

@d3fan1 I've already got September 24 circled on my calendar and will be hoping to make the drive to Wheaton. Should be the game of the year for the Du's.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on July 08, 2013, 02:09:55 PM
Quote from: doolittledog on July 07, 2013, 09:44:40 AM

At end of season it will be assumed Loras wins all the time, not because of superior coaching and players...but because they play on turf.  All IIAC schools with a dedicated soccer facility with a grass field will be converted in the spring to turf.  Loras then announces their return to Faber Field and it's grass surface.  All other IIAC schools reply with "D'oh"

This made me laugh. Well said. Course if Loras played their games on Faber, games would have to be cancelled midway through the games due to injuries from the field/rock wall.

1. Loras - As long as their road schedule doesn't kill them.
2. Wartburg - Looks to be bringing back more players to aid in scoreing then any other
3. Dubuque - McDonald will be a lose for them but maybe their assit men will find someone else to kick the ball up to and run under
4. Central - Just never seem to have enough to keep them consistent throughout the year
5. Luther - Would have to come in under the radar with a wall of a goalie and defense to make a run at anything.
6. Simpson- Could be a toss up for them and Coe
7. Coe- Looked pretty good a couple of years ago with their freshmen and sophomores. Don't know if that will be enough
8. Buena Vista - Should start recruiting heavily from California or Minnesota. Even better would be from Brazil or Spain.....
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on July 10, 2013, 10:42:40 PM
Hearing that Loras will be the home to two DI transfers this fall. Tyler Cruikshank and Richard Lenke who played at Loyola (Chicago) in 2012. Cruikshank is a two-time all-state player from Marshalltown, Iowa where he also played 7 seasons for the Olympic Development Regional Team. Lenke is from Mount Prospect, Illinois and was all-conference his senior year.

Will be interesting to see how these two will fit into the already deep Loras roster.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on July 24, 2013, 11:18:42 AM
Quote from: d3fan1 on July 07, 2013, 09:20:14 PM
If you go on quality of fields Central would be #1. I think everyone who is being honest has to pick Loras on top. Other than Wheaton, they will be the best team in the region.:


You really think Wheaton is a better team than Loras?  I would love to see your reasoning behind that statement.  If it is rankings than I think you are reading the paper upside down, Loras is ranked #1 in the Region and #2 in the Nation (Wheaton isn't even ranked #1 in their own region).  If you want to look at the best indicator of how these two squads match up just take a gander at this: Since 2006 Loras has playing Wheaton on a regular basis meeting up 8 times,  Loras holds a 5-2-1 record in those 8 matches.  Every match was decided by 1 goal with the exception of Sept last year when the Duhawks handed the Thunder a 2-0 "how's your father" before giving them an exit stage left in the NCAA Tourney with a 2-1 victory.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on July 25, 2013, 12:39:04 AM
@KICKIN95 I do believe that the Loras vs Wheaton match could go either way. Wheaton (from what I have heard) returns 10/11 starters (GK graduated), so I would expect them to be just as they were last year. Now with that being said, do I believe Loras will come out on top, yes ... of course. I imagine that we are about to see the most talented and deep squad that Loras has ever fielded.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: d3fan1 on July 26, 2013, 11:48:38 AM
The history of the match-up between Loras and Wheaton won't have much bearing on this year's match. I am conflicted about who I want to come out on top! I will always be an IIAC fan, and I know Loras is one of the stongest teams in the nation, but I coached one of the better players from Wheaton and know what a competitor he is. He is the most amazing competitor I've ever been associated with. I saw them play 3 times last year and they are VERY talented! Since they have everyone back, it should be an unbelievable game. I've already marked it on the calendar and I will be there!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on July 27, 2013, 09:38:55 AM
I think last year's results have some bearing on this year for the simple fact that both teams are returning the lion's share of their starters.  I am by no means saying that Loras will come out and beat Wheaton 3-0, but I do believe Loras will win.  Both teams have great recruits coming in and you obviously have a personal tie to one of the new players making your allegiance to the IIAC difficult.  The Duhawks have done a very good job of reloading this year,  I am anxiously awaiting the 2013 kickoff and in particular the Wheaton match ( which is at Wheaton this year making it a touch more challenging).
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on July 31, 2013, 12:12:03 PM
Puerco, what are the reason's the two players are coming to play for Loras after starting at D1? Would like to see the skill level of the players before we crown them.

Loras schedule all around looks pretty difficult besides most their conference games. "Luckily" Wheaton falls between Carthage and UD.

I don't know about Rothert only having 7 home games though. Gonna have to get used to watching games online.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on August 09, 2013, 05:09:44 PM
@Madhatter5 - One of the players is from Marshalltown, where a former Duhawk defensive stalwart hailed from. The other was good friends with the kid. Will they be All-Americans? No way to say this early...but I do think they'll play a significant role in this year's success for the Duhawks.

Would the Duhawks have it any other way? By actually taking advantage of their non-conference opportunities and playing difficult teams they are erasing any doubt that they play the best to earn their rankings.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Ambush004 on August 12, 2013, 11:13:52 PM
Espin, who is in your own opinion going to be the underclassman leader for the duhawks. We all know their senior class has proven lethal. Whose next in line to take the reigns?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on August 13, 2013, 04:16:56 PM
Preseason Rankings are out. http://www.nscaatv.com/rankings

Messiah #1
Loras #2
Williams #3

Some other local noteworthy teams:
Wheaton #6
Dominican #10-T
UWP #17


Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Ambush004 on August 13, 2013, 11:02:59 PM
UWP is no way deserving to be on that list.  Does anyone know who these big time teams are playing for their preseason games?? Would like to see a couple playing a team a division or two up in competition.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on August 13, 2013, 11:47:46 PM
@Ambush I'll break it down by class.

Juniors - Johnny Rummelhart has the after-burners that will give Usain Bolt a challenge. (Okay maybe not quite that fast, but could be one of the fastest players in DIII). Tom Fluegel has the elusive moves that could turn a defender's legs into an Auntie Anne's pretzel. Look for him to step up and see time either as a forward or an attacking mid this year.

Sophomores - Jorge Simon earned quality minutes in the defensive mid in the NCAA Tournament. I look for him to continue to grow in skill and confidence. Wouldn't be surprised if he's an everyday starter his junior year. Ben Avery, a midseason call-up, showed that even at 6-4, he can be elusively quick to strip opponents of the ball as well as be a human wrecking ball inside the 18. I'm also interested to see the play of Sam Koenig. Similar in physical fitness to that of Captain Dan Figura, if he can pick up the intangibles, he has a strong chance of being an everyday starter in the near future.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on August 13, 2013, 11:49:59 PM
I believe UW-P was included based on their finish in 2012...without much consideration given to the senior class that graduated. I wouldn't be surprised if they find the exit from the Top 25 within the first two weeks of the season.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Ambush004 on August 14, 2013, 09:57:43 PM
I'm excited to see how Wartburg does this season. It's always a thrill watching the other IIAC teams compete against each other, other than Loras of course. Don't sleep on Wartburg is my opinion.

Does anyone in the IIAC have a respective schedule other than Loras?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on August 14, 2013, 10:47:49 PM
Notable non-conference opponents for the Knights are:

UW-Whitewater
UW-Oshkosh
#17 UW-Platteville
Gustavus
#22 Carleton
St. Thomas.

The Spartans have a significantly easier schedule:
Lake Forest
#17 UW-Platteville
#19 North Park

Even though Oshkosh and Whitewater are not a preseason Top 25, I think Wartburg will drop at least one of those matches, if not both. Put those teams on UD's schedule and they lose them both.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: casualfan on August 15, 2013, 02:09:38 PM
Puerco, you really have something against Dubuque don't you? haha.

You have:

Notable non-conference opponents for the Knights are:

UW-Whitewater
UW-Oshkosh
#17 UW-Platteville
Gustavus
#22 Carleton
St. Thomas.

The Spartans have a significantly easier schedule:
Lake Forest
#17 UW-Platteville
#19 North Park

While Dubuque also plays UW-Whitewater, St. Thomas like Wartburg.
They also play Augsburg and Illinois Wesleyan, two solid D3 opponents.

Lay off on Spartan haterade for all of us, please.  And this is coming from a fan outside of the IIAC.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on August 15, 2013, 02:30:31 PM
Must've looked over those other common opponents, my apologies.

Both squads will have fun competing to see who gets their season ended in the Conference Championship. Always have to have something to look forward to, right?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Ambush004 on August 15, 2013, 02:44:43 PM
Dubuque having a tough schedule puts I CAN'T in their heart. They need to have a cake walk schedule if they want to have confidence. 2010 was it that they made #24 on the top 25 list. Wartburg loves to fight, They need to stop hitting up bars the knight before games.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on August 16, 2013, 11:09:03 AM
Casual- Puerco probably has something against Dubuque because every year their fans or players have a bigger bark then they do bite and overstep themselves.

To say Illinois- Wes is a solid D3 program is comical to say the least. I'll give you Augsburg though.

I wouldn't put St. Thomas on either of those lists though seeing how they are always inconsistent and applying a bit of adversity and pressure against their team will see them crumble.

UWP, NP and UWW will be good tests for UD though to see what they are really made of before the start of conference play. They better gain confidence from those games instead of losing a step or those walk through IIAC games will become challenges/loses that they can't afford come NCAA Tourny bid time.

I do look forward to Wartburg coming back to the old ways sometime soon. Would like to see more than 1 or 2 IIAC teams make it to tourny and having the second team in be a solid entry rather than a one and done.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on August 16, 2013, 11:16:18 AM
I think we'd all agree that 2011 was a good example of what we'd like to see from the IIAC, with Luther making it to the Sweet 16. It's just unfortunate that it can't happen on a year in year out basis.

You think Luther makes the tourney that year if they don't beat Loras in the regular season?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on August 19, 2013, 12:15:26 PM
I think beating Loras was a good resume builder for them and I don't know what their schedule looked like that year so it's uncertain if some of those teams they played helped either. If anything it had to help with their confidence to push them.

Even when Wartburg was making the touny in the mid 2000's they would get out in the first or second round so Lurther getting to the Sweet 16 was a good accomplishment. Too bad that attitude didn't stick.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Ambush004 on August 21, 2013, 01:46:40 PM
When going to check out the Loras preseason I have found a liking for the two transfers. Very smooth and technical. One of them starting in the 11's game both times and the other being a role in the central mid with Cavers. Looks like the duhawks won't skip a beat in the defensive area for sure. UD on the other hand, what are they doing? My 30+ men's league could give them a game. Someone needs to tell them the All Europe honor used on their player bio's is used as a door prize for playing soccer.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: doolittledog on August 21, 2013, 02:11:31 PM
If UD sucks that bad, what does it say about the rest of the league ;D

2nd place in 2012
3rd place tie in 2011
1st place tie in 2010

Yeah, that is one sucky program over at UD. 
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on August 21, 2013, 05:26:42 PM
I don't think any of us will argue that the Iowa Conference is a powerhouse for men's soccer. The Spartans have never tasted the NCAA Tournament, haven't even come close to be honest. They have yet to appear in a conference tournament championship.

If you check their Athletics site, they fail to mention who sent them packing each year. Must be too hard to swallow.

2010 - Lost to the Duhawks in Semis.
2011 - Lost to Wartburg (PKs) in Opening Round.
2012 - Lost to Central in Semis.

Comparing the Spartan soccer program to the development of a child...they've just discovered what body hair is like.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on August 21, 2013, 05:52:35 PM
Quote from: doolittledog on August 21, 2013, 02:11:31 PM
If UD sucks that bad, what does it say about the rest of the league ;D

Thanks for catching up to the conversation Puerco, Ambush and I are having by stating a fact said multiple times.

In the end we would all like to see the IIAC become a powerhouse for obvious reasons but also so that Loras wouldn't have to travel all over the Midwest to strengthen their schedule for when it comes time for NCAA bidding and field location.

I will give you that UD has improved since Brad Johnson, a Loras Alum, has taken over the reins.
UD's IIAC Record:
'01: 1-5-2
'02: 0-6-2
'03: 1-7-0
'04: 1-6-1 (Brad's first year)
'05: 1-6-1
'06: 2-5-1
'07: 3-5-0
'08: 4-4-0
'09: 7-1-0
'10: 7-1-0
'11: 5-3-0
'12: 5-2-0

But as Puerco has said they haven't reached the tournament yet. Which is a pretty difficult task to say the least. Also doesn't help the Loras bias of UD that Loras hasn't lost to UD in the last 12 years...
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Medicated Pete on August 22, 2013, 05:45:54 PM
Quote from: Madhatter5 on July 31, 2013, 12:12:03 pm

   
QuotePuerco, what are the reason's the two players are coming to play for Loras after starting at D1?


I do believe Loyola has a new coach this year...so Tyler Cruikshank and Richard Lenke didn't fit into the look of things..according to the Asst. Coach when I asked him at a tournament in Rockford during the summer...Hope its a plus for the Duhawks.

Also anyone hear that this is the last year Wheaton(poor sportsmanship) will be playing Loras College during season play??
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on August 22, 2013, 09:22:16 PM
Medicated Pete - I do believe you are correct. I think it has to do with the Wheaton coach not wanting to come out to Dubuque, but I could be mistaken.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on August 23, 2013, 12:16:51 PM
Could also be that Wheaton is tired of the "L" on their record.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Ambush004 on August 23, 2013, 04:55:25 PM
Wheaton doesn't like getting pushed around from other conferences. Duhawks seem to never back down from taking someone on their schedule. This year they play Calvin, st. Scholastica and NP all which gave them a little reality check. Especially what happened in 2011 with Calvin. Yikes
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: pad3fan on August 23, 2013, 11:56:01 PM
Ambush, as Wheaton has year in and year out played one of toughtest schedules in the country, your comment about getting pushed around really doesn't seem to hold water. And Medicated.....even if Wheaton chooses not to continue to play Loras in the regular season, how does this constitude poor sportsmanship?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on August 24, 2013, 01:14:23 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong Medicated, but the poor sportsmanship comes from the players' behavior on the pitch, not necessarily that they are done playing Loras in the regular season after this season.

2007: 14-7-1
2008: 15-4-3
2009: 14-4-3
2010: 11-7-3
2011: 10-8-2
2012: 18-4-3

82-34-15

No doubt that's impressive. Don't get me wrong, I wholeheartedly believe that Wheaton is a quality program. But I do think Ambush holds water with his statement. They've always performed well in the CCIW, no arguing that.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on August 26, 2013, 12:49:43 AM
Loras dropped Upper Iowa 5-1 yesterday in a exhibition match. I understand it's only preseason, but based on the accounts I received from those who had eyes at the game, the Duhawks were dangerous. After allowing a PK, they ripped off four goals in 30 minutes according to Upper Iowa's recap.

Among the goal scorers was Pat Langan, who's 2012 season ended against Wheaton in late September due to an ACL tear. Very promising to see him playing again let alone producing.

Can't wait until Friday when the season gets underway.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on August 26, 2013, 11:12:19 AM
I would like to know the true reason for Wheaton not wanting to play Loras anymore.

If any team wants to grow as a program then you have to continue to play a tough schedule, as Wheaton does according to padfoot. That being said, why would they want to drop a team that has consistently been in the top 25 the last 5 to 8 years that is less than 3 hours away from them. Either there is some bad blood or Wheaton doesn't want to play a team that is that high up on the top 25 list. Or Loras could have decided to end the relationship. Never know.

Puerco, did you see/hear about any of the other IIAC teams Preseason games and how they went?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Ambush004 on August 26, 2013, 01:48:39 PM
Loras seems to drop a tough opponent one ear and pick another one up the next. Example dropping wash u but now picking up Calvin. I doubt it's on Rotherts efforts to not play Wheaton. Great rivalry hate to see it end. But I would like to know about preseason games as well if anyone has any input about team around the area and who they played.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: pad3fan on August 26, 2013, 01:50:15 PM
MadHatter, we may learn more or we may not. However for those that suggest that Wheaton does not like to play a tough schedule and may be "dropping" Loras due to results, I suggest they look back over the SOS the last 5 years or so. It would tough to find teams that have played a more difficult schedule. And some food for thought, the best team in the country in D3 over the last 10 years (Messiah) hasn't always played one of the toughest regular season schedules.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: doolittledog on August 26, 2013, 02:22:20 PM
Preseason conference picks are up.

http://www.iowaconference.com/news/2013/8/26/MSOC_0826134525.aspx


Rank School (1st place votes)Points2012 Record

1       Loras (7) 56 23-2-1, 7-0-0 IIAC (21 pts.)

2       Luther (1) 47 10-5-3, 4-3-0 IIAC (12 pts.)

3       Dubuque   39 11-6-1, 5-2-0 IIAC (15 pts.)

4       CentraL     36   8-10-3, 3-4-0 IIAC (9 pts.)

5      Wartburg    35   7-9-2, 3-3-1 IIAC (10 pts.)

6       Simpson    32  13-8-1, 3-3-1 IIAC (10 pts.)

T7    Buena Vista 17   5-11-1, 0-7-0 IIAC (0 pts.)

T7    Coe            17    5-12-1, 2-5-0 IIAC (6 pts.)
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: d3fan1 on August 26, 2013, 02:39:36 PM
I gaurantee Wheaton is not afraid to play Loras. They have proven in past years they don't shy away from tough competition. Loras doesn't shy away from tough competition either. After getting drubbed by Calvin a couple of years ago, you now see Loras playing Calvin. Quality programs relish playing other quality programs. That is one of the best ways to grow.

I'm going to try to get to both the Calvin and Wheaton match. They should both be very entertaining. Speaking of tough schedules, Calvin starts with Ohio Wesleyn, Kenyon, Loras, North Park, and Hope. If they get through that stretch that would be a major accomplishment.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: ldahoSoccer on August 28, 2013, 11:45:08 AM
Loras goes undefeated this year.  17-0-2.  Hosts all the way to the final four.  See y'all in Texas. 

/end thread
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Saint of Old on August 28, 2013, 11:59:07 AM
Loras is for sure a good team.

The most impressive is that they have consistency.
many teams have a magic run or two and then fade away.

Alma was very good late 90s.
I have not heard much from Richard Stocton lately either.

What Wheaton has though, is two stars on its chest.
Ultimately that is what you will be judged by.

I think teams like Loras, Amherst and Chris Newport must first win that big game to really get the respect their program undoubtedly deserve.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: TheBLVD on August 28, 2013, 12:56:48 PM
There's no doubt in my mind that Loras will have a relatively easy time in the IIAC this year. I can see some tough matches, but overall they should be able to come out on top.

My picks for the awards:

IIAC MVP -- Tommy Fluegel's mullet
Top Scorer -- Johnny "I Can Read" Rummelhart
0 Goals against Dylan "Dylan" Milkent

Ya'll heard it here first.

Party on Garth.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on August 28, 2013, 01:40:35 PM
Can't argue with you there Saint, those two stars are certainly impressive and a mark of a program that knows how to win.

It's inevitable that most programs will experience bouts of inconsistency, except for a rare few.

I believe it's only a matter of time before that first star is shining about the Loras Crest.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Saint of Old on August 28, 2013, 03:09:51 PM
Fully agree!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on August 30, 2013, 10:30:38 AM
Quite a few games this Labor Day weekend.

What is everyone's predictions?


DATE             TIME               AWAY                 HOME                         SCORE
8/30/2013    4:00 p.m.       Simpson           Bethel (Minn.)                 1-3
8/30/2013    5:00 p.m.       Luther              Southwestern (Texas)    2-1
8/30/2013    5:30 p.m.       Wartburg         St. Thomas (Minn.)          1-1
8/30/2013    5:30 p.m.       Loras               St. Scholastica                 2-0
8/30/2013    6:00 p.m.       Martin Luther   Buena Vista                     1-2
8/30/2013    7:00 p.m.       Dubuque          Augsburg                         1-2
8/30/2013    7:30 p.m.       Central            Washington-St. Louis       0-3

8/31/2013    1:00 p.m.       Grinnell            Coe                                  0-0
8/31/2013    4:30 p.m.       Loras               Wis.-Superior                   3-0             
8/31/2013    5:00 p.m.       Dubuque          St. Thomas (Minn.)           1-1
8/31/2013    7:00 p.m.       Wartburg         Augsburg                          1-2
8/31/2013    7:30 p.m.       Luther              Trinity (Texas)                  0-3

9/1/2013    2:00 p.m.       Illinois College   Buena Vista                      1-1
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on August 30, 2013, 01:07:42 PM
DATE             TIME               AWAY                 HOME                         SCORE
8/30/2013    4:00 p.m.       Simpson           Bethel (Minn.)                 1-1
8/30/2013    5:00 p.m.       Luther              Southwestern (Texas)    1-0
8/30/2013    5:30 p.m.       Wartburg         St. Thomas (Minn.)          2-0
8/30/2013    5:30 p.m.       Loras               St. Scholastica                 3-0
8/30/2013    6:00 p.m.       Martin Luther   Buena Vista                     0-1
8/30/2013    7:00 p.m.       Dubuque          Augsburg                         0-1
8/30/2013    7:30 p.m.       Central            Washington-St. Louis       0-2

8/31/2013    1:00 p.m.       Grinnell            Coe                                  1-0
8/31/2013    4:30 p.m.       Loras               Wis.-Superior                   4-0             
8/31/2013    5:00 p.m.       Dubuque          St. Thomas (Minn.)           0-2
8/31/2013    7:00 p.m.       Wartburg         Augsburg                          1-1
8/31/2013    7:30 p.m.       Luther              Trinity (Texas)                  0-2

9/1/2013    2:00 p.m.       Illinois College   Buena Vista                      0-2
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: ldahoSoccer on August 30, 2013, 07:22:21 PM
DuHawks down 1-0 at the half.

Passing and touches look poor. 
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on August 30, 2013, 07:39:28 PM
Rummelhart brings it back to even. Anyone have eyes on the game? The live stream is not loading for me.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: ldahoSoccer on August 30, 2013, 07:49:55 PM
It should be up now.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on August 30, 2013, 08:39:15 PM
Score says Loras and CSS was close.  The stat sheet shows the Duhawks destroyed them.  Better start finding the back of the net more than twice on 26 shots and 15 SOG boys.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: doolittledog on August 30, 2013, 09:01:04 PM
Dubuque leading Augsburg at the half 1-0

Luther beat #8 Trinity in San Antonio 2-0

Wartburg beat St Thomas 2-1 in OT

BVU beat Martin Luther 4-0

Dubuque gets a 2nd goal in the 76th minute...up 2-0

Dubuque and Augsburg tied 2-2 at the end of regulation

Augsburg won 3-2 in 2OT  :-X
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on August 30, 2013, 10:34:21 PM
Very surprised to see Luther knock off Trinity. Could be a sign of things to come for them this season.

Not a good sign for UD to see them allow two goals in 14 minutes and the lose it in OT.

All in all, good signs all around for the Iowa Conference today. Excited for conference play.

KICKIN - When I finally got the livestream to work, it didn't look like CSS was dictating much of the game. I saw they scored on a free kick, did you happen to see it?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on August 30, 2013, 11:00:30 PM
No I am in the middle of nowhere northern Wisconsin right now,  couldn't get anything but updates.  Looks like Loras dominated and CSS had an excellent free kick.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on August 30, 2013, 11:59:44 PM
Sounds like the match was very similar to Loras vs UW-P from the regular season last year. Lots of chances for the Duhawks, but misplayed a free kick and went down early.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on August 31, 2013, 07:29:13 PM
Duhawks gives up a PK and then miss one of their own.  Another stat dominating match but a bad result so far.  3 minutes left in the match.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on August 31, 2013, 07:34:03 PM
WOW Loras scores with less than 20 seconds to go, all knotted up at 1's!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on August 31, 2013, 08:18:06 PM
Refs called the Loras game. No OT. Game ends in a draw.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Ambush004 on August 31, 2013, 08:58:00 PM
Duhawks seem to feel the pressure of having the #2 target on their back. It's tough but great teams find a way to win in all circumstances. Some reality checks need to be put in place after this weekend. UWP will be a good re bound test, I'm interested to see the fire brought out.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on August 31, 2013, 10:42:38 PM
Gotta agree with you there Ambush. While teams say they don't let the rankings get to them, you almost have to so that you are always prepared for the best possible opponents. When you're up that high, everyone wants to take you down.

Tuesday will be a good test. Both teams have something to prove coming off less than stellar draws on the weekend.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on September 03, 2013, 11:53:45 AM
PREDICTION

Loras - 2
UWP - 0

Duhawks find their tempo and pace, not allowing the Pioneers to get comfortable.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: casualfan on September 03, 2013, 12:08:56 PM
Judging by how UWP looked in their first game, this should be a breeze for Loras. UWP does not have any offensive threat, and I'm sure Loras will.

This may be a bit bold, but I'm thinking...

Loras 4
UWP 0
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Ambush004 on September 03, 2013, 01:26:43 PM
UWP will come out strong because of last year but the duhawks will score after the first 20 mins and the flood gates will open. 5-0 duhawks.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on September 03, 2013, 02:43:18 PM
Duhawks drop 23 spots due to a draw? Hmm.

Trinity lost to an unranked team (Luther) and 8 spots to 16.

Luther, who was unranked last week, is now 6.

I'm going to go bald with all the head scratching I'm doing right now.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Ambush004 on September 03, 2013, 04:02:41 PM
Dang interns.  ???. Duhawks home opener as well tonight, Loras should have some rowdy dedicated fans. Anyone know the rules of the noise makers?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: TheBLVD on September 03, 2013, 04:50:53 PM
Loras dropping down to #25 is absolutely ridiculous, especially considering (like Puerco noted) that Trinity barely fell after losing. Oh well, rankings are pretty irrelevant at this time of the season.

I'm excited to watch the Duhawks on the Rock Bowl tonight against UWP. Unless they get those unreal goals like they did  last year, I do not see them causing Loras too many problems. However, Loras has been letting in the odd goal even with dominating the play

My prediction: 3-0 Duhawks with Fluegel getting on the board and a Cavers brace.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 03, 2013, 08:05:14 PM
What's with the video feed being taken down for the Loras v UWP match?  Audio feed is mostly fans, can't here SID and Super Sportscaster Jon Denham pontificate!

Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 03, 2013, 08:28:50 PM
Apparently Cavers just went down with a possible dislocated elbow after wrong footing a UWP defender in the corner.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 03, 2013, 08:58:24 PM
Loras is spanking the Pioneers. 2-0 with constant pressure. 13 SOG with 6 on frame to 2 for UWP on frame is a goose egg.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 03, 2013, 09:06:46 PM
Make that 3 -0
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 03, 2013, 09:24:10 PM
12 seconds into the 2nd half and Tom fluegel makes it 4-0!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 03, 2013, 09:31:02 PM
PK coming up for the DuHawks, that my friends is 5-0!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 03, 2013, 09:47:14 PM
Ambush004 looks like he's taking home the chicken dinner with his prediction tonight.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 03, 2013, 10:10:01 PM
That's our final from the Rock Bowl folks 5-0 Loras. Good night.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on September 03, 2013, 10:53:06 PM
Loras SID had the wrong cable for his video broadcast. Will have it fixed by next home game.

Cavers will miss some time, not sure how much yet.

Good team win from the Duhawks. Exactly what they needed.

Pretty sure 2012 was a magic year for UW-P. Hopefully they'll get back to that someday.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: TheBLVD on September 04, 2013, 09:34:57 AM
Tommy Fluegel stepping up big after the Cavers injury, and had a great match. When I predicted Cavers with a brace, I didn't mean one for his arm. Here's to hoping he has a speedy recovery, but he will miss some big matches that are coming up for the Duhawks. We'll be able to see just how effective their renown depth can be.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 04, 2013, 10:25:05 AM
Hope Cavers has a speedy recovery, class kid and player.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Ambush004 on September 04, 2013, 02:19:43 PM
Tough to here that happen to Cavers, great player. Duhawks will rebound. Wartburg put a decent stat with beating Augsburg and St Thomas. Don't sleep on the knights. Conference contenders. How log will Cavers be on the DL list? Whose stepping up to replace?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on September 04, 2013, 03:17:28 PM
Richard Lenke, the DI transfer from Loyola, stepped right into that role. Great offensive player, but no Kevin Cavers. While the Duhawks will feel the effect of not having #20 in the lineup, I think that other players will be able to step up.

Not sure how long he'll be out...hopefully not too long.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: keeker on September 05, 2013, 01:05:44 AM
Lenke was a bit player for a lousy d1 team. Chicago area D3 schools always beat them in exhibition. Not all D1 transfers are D1 transfers.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on September 05, 2013, 01:28:14 AM
I'm not saying that Lenke is going to be an All-American this year or be the best player on Loras' roster. But I have heard that he does possess some smooth offensive skill that can help to make up for the loss of Cavers.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 05, 2013, 09:46:29 AM
I have a little bit of info on Cavers elbow.  It was a dislocation, but to the doctors amazement the ligaments are not damaged, more info coming Monday.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Ambush004 on September 05, 2013, 08:14:54 PM
Keeker, can you provide some insight of what D3 programs around the Chicago area have beat D1 programs? The last event I heard about was Wheaton vs northwestern and Wheaton fell something like 6-1? Ouch.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on September 05, 2013, 09:15:31 PM
http://www.loyolaramblers.com/sports/m-soccer/recaps/082013aac.html

Loyola lost to U of Chicago this year in a preseason exhibition.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: keeker on September 05, 2013, 09:30:39 PM
Quote from: Ambush004 on September 05, 2013, 08:14:54 PM
Keeker, can you provide some insight of what D3 programs around the Chicago area have beat D1 programs? The last event I heard about was Wheaton vs northwestern and Wheaton fell something like 6-1? Ouch.
Well, not exactly. Was at the game. Iirc, Wheaties had just returned from a mission trip to kenya or congo or something like that just a day before the scrimmage. Nwu had been at it for a couple weeks, d1 soccer. 1st half was even. 2nd half wheaton put 4 or 5 2nd stringers and game started shifting towards nwu's favor. I think nwuwere still at full strength then around 3 or 4 zero nwu also put in scrubs. wheaton was already scrubbing by then. i seem to remember it being pretty boring game overall.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 05, 2013, 10:46:56 PM
Here is a link to the video of the elbow injury Cavers suffered (nothing gruesome).  He put a sweet little "meg" on the first defender.  2nd defender came in and made what looked like a pretty clean tackle, just an unfortunate accident.  The incident is at the 5:43 mark on the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nJd45BRP60I#t=355
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: TheBLVD on September 06, 2013, 10:01:32 AM
That kid fell for the oldest trick in Caver's book. Poor guy. Looking forward to this weekend. Any predictions for the games in this MSOE Milwaukee tournament?

I see the Calvin and Loras match being a hard fought one with Loras coming out on top 3-1. With it being 2-1 most of the match until Calvin push for an equalizer, and the Duhawks countering to seal it.

MSOE: 0 NPU: 2 - I think that North Park should be able to get past MSOE with their quality.

In the finals a rematch of the second round game from last year's NCAA tournament. It'll be another close one, but I think it'll end up being the same score as the last time they met: 1-0 Loras winning with Dan Figura grabbing an unexpected goal.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on September 06, 2013, 10:15:19 AM
Predictions
Loras 2 - Calvin 0
MSOE 0 - North Park 3

Saturday
Loras 2 - North Park 0

With Cavers out, looking forward to how things shake up. Could be a big weekend for some players to see who steps up and takes control.

I predict Kutzke will notch the gamewinner versus North Park. Showed promise as a freshman in the '09 season. Scored 2 goals and 3 assists on a team that had 19 goal scorer Miguel Bonilla. Appeared in 16 matches that season.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Ambush004 on September 06, 2013, 01:58:29 PM
Loras 1
Calvin 0
Duhawk defense takes the reigns and keeps Calvin out. Even game but the duhawks capitalize on their chance.

Loras 2
North park 1
North park has trouble scoring because of duhawk defense. Kutzke and rummelhart get the goals.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Ambush004 on September 06, 2013, 02:00:48 PM
No stats or video on the game? I need something to do at work. This is 2013 MSOE get a clue.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 06, 2013, 02:21:38 PM
Ambush, click on the link for the Live Stats for MSOE v North Park, it is under there.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 06, 2013, 02:30:55 PM
From what limited info I am getting thru live stats it seems as though Loras is dominating this match. Leading 9-1 in shots and Van DeBergh just rocked the crossbar.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 06, 2013, 02:45:09 PM
Loras is on the board with a strike from Jorge Simon! 1-0 Duhawks
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 06, 2013, 02:51:01 PM
At the end of the 1st Loras is up 1-0 with a healthy 11-2 shots advantage with 6 SOG.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 06, 2013, 03:12:24 PM
Calvin gets an equalizer early in the 2nd.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 06, 2013, 03:23:55 PM
Duhawks respond in kind with a goal of their own (or more appropriately an own goal by Calvin) to regain the lead 2-1
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 06, 2013, 03:29:14 PM
Loras adds another to go up 3-1 courtesy of Dan Figura
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 06, 2013, 03:40:58 PM
Calvin claw back to within 1. 
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 06, 2013, 03:59:15 PM
Final Loras 3-2 over Calvin.  Stats as follows (Loras first) 18-5 shots and 11-4 SOG, 7-5 corners, 9-12 fouls, 1-2 offsides. Calvin is now 0-3 to start the season, I don't follow the team so I am not sure if they were expected to be down so severely or they are just off to a very slow start.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: OhioSocYea on September 06, 2013, 04:14:22 PM
Calvin probably would have been hoping for a better start, but not terribly shocking that they've started 0-3.

Opening the year with Ohio Wesleyan, Kenyon and then Loras is brutal.

They're still a darn good squad, though.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on September 06, 2013, 05:40:22 PM
The game winner off of Figura's foot came from behind the midfield line...a bounce just in front of the six caught the Calvin keeper by surprise and all he could do was watch as it went up and over his head into the net.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 07, 2013, 06:00:36 PM
Is Loras up 3-0? Says NP, but I know Berkowitz scored for Loras.  Was it an own goal?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 07, 2013, 06:31:39 PM
Loras with a convincing win over North Park 3-0. MSOE athletics website is pretty poor for a school full of engineers! Couldn't get the names of the teams or the scores on the correct side. Nice win Duhawks, and all without their All American midfielder!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Ambush004 on September 07, 2013, 09:44:39 PM
Duhawks seem to be playing in a different level than all other teams in the region. I like to see that but whose going to step up to the challenge? Obviously not North park. CCIW? Better have a Ritter showing than that.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on September 07, 2013, 11:04:20 PM
Was able to see both matches with my own eyes this weekend.

Friday against Calvin was no cakewalk. They're tall and fast. Both teams had their fair share of chances, but it was a fluke goal that ended being the deciding factor. The midfield looked shaky at times and there appeared to be some communications problems in the back for Loras. Travis Vegter, who scored against Loras in 2011, is a very talented forward. Very confident and skilled on the ball. Opponents will have fits with him all year.

The Duhawks played a much more solid 90 minutes against North Park on Saturday. From the very start, it was apparent that North Park wanted to use their passing to set up scoring chances, but the Duhawks were able to provide pressure and swarm in the midfield, preventing a real flow to the Viking offense. Rummelhart's goal in the second half was a thing of beauty. He split the two defenders by simply outrunning them, then with a flick of the toe sent it past the sprawling keeper. The nail in the coffin came two minutes later when Tom Fluegel flew up the far sideline and due to the nice footwork created space and beat the keeper far post.

While Wednesday's match against Oshkosh will be a good test, I feel Loras showed some real promise this weekend.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on September 07, 2013, 11:23:49 PM
#4 Wheaton 1 - Hope 2
#6 Luther 1 - Augsburg 2
#9 C-M-S 0 - #1 Messiah 3
#24 Oneonta 0 - Franklin and Marshall 1

Couple of upsets this weekend.

Oh yeah, forgot this one...

#25 Loras 3 - #20 North Park 0

Time to put all the schools in a hat and draw out the Top 25 again.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Saint of Old on September 08, 2013, 08:11:21 AM
Interesting that Oneonta seems a bit weaker this year (Although they lost their first 2 games as well in 11' Final Four run).
Realistically speaking, rankings mean absolutely nothing until October Regional Rankings come out.
For teams that are building solid programs, its great to see the recognition, and it may encourage supporters. For more consistent teams, its merely a target on your back.
Ideally, a team trying to make history for their program would do well to fly under the radar for a good portion of the year.

Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: TheBLVD on September 09, 2013, 09:27:04 AM
I think this weekend was a great illustration of why rankings this early in the season are completely useless. I wasn't able to catch the Friday afternoon matches at MSOE this weekend, but I was able to make it to the ever-so-entertaining match against NPU; and I am sooooooo glad that I did.

Loras was able to absolutely frustrate the living hell out off North Park, and took them completely out of their game. They couldn't build up whatsoever and often found themselves just dumping the ball up field for Dylan Milkent or Dan Figura to casually collect. All of Loras' goals where well deserved with the third one really doing a number on NPU's team moral. Then, of course, came the wonderful complacency of those North Park players who feel the need to whine and dive and complain about every little bit of contact. It's a miracle that about 4 of them went down rolling around and screaming bloody murder only to magically get on to their feet two minutes later, and start sprinting. They even resorted to verbally complaining that Loras didn't play soccer, and that it was only kickball. It was all a desperate attempt to find some excuse as to why they got completely and utterly outplayed.

Twas a wonderful game to be at.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on September 10, 2013, 01:11:26 PM
The NSCAA hangover must have worn off. Duhawks now ranked 5th.

D3Soccer releases their first poll and slots Loras in at 10th.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on September 11, 2013, 12:54:11 PM
Prediction

Loras 2 - Oshkosh 1
Dubuque 0 - UWP 0
Wartburg 0 - Carleton 1
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Ambush004 on September 11, 2013, 01:07:25 PM
Loras 2-0
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: ldahoSoccer on September 11, 2013, 02:34:23 PM
Loras 2-1 Oshkosh

Wartburg 1-2 Carleton

Dubuque 0-1 UWP
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Medicated Pete on September 11, 2013, 04:33:28 PM
Amazing Swamie Predicts....

Loras 4 - 1 Wis.-Oshkosh
Wartburg 3 - 1 Carleton
Dubuque 1 - 3 Wis.-Platteville
Simpson 4 - 0 Nebraska Wesleyan
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Wormburner on September 11, 2013, 08:54:40 PM
Anyone got a link to the Loras game?  Where does UWO come off trying to charge for a feed?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 11, 2013, 09:00:40 PM
I wrote a little note to the UWO SID and AD letting them know that this is DIII nor DI.  I paid the $8 and am having buyers remorse.  The feed quality is marginal at best, they do have 1 close up camera that looks to be HD, but is used so little it's hard to tell.
  Now about the 1st half: this is the first match this year I have witnessed and i am somewhat surprised by the lack of possession and abundance of long ball on the Duhawks part.  I guess without their quarterback they are doing what they need to do to win.  The passing is on the sloppy side to put it nicely and the head down when the ball is on my feet technique hasn't fooled the Titans as of yet.  I am not bashing Loras, just very surprised to se this style from them.  They are winning and that is all that counts for now.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 11, 2013, 09:02:58 PM
Quote from: Wormburner on September 11, 2013, 08:54:40 PM
Anyone got a link to the Loras game?  Where does UWO come off trying to charge for a feed?
There goes that "fixed income" of a retired person again! I bet $8 is about the price of a cod lure, who's going to give up a cod lure to watch a crappy feed?  ;D 
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: ldahoSoccer on September 11, 2013, 09:09:02 PM
Quote from: KICKIN95 on September 11, 2013, 09:02:58 PM
Quote from: Wormburner on September 11, 2013, 08:54:40 PM
Anyone got a link to the Loras game?  Where does UWO come off trying to charge for a feed?
There goes that "fixed income" of a retired person again! I bet $8 is about the price of a cod lure, who's going to give up a cod lure to watch a crappy feed?  ;D

Score?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 11, 2013, 10:30:29 PM
0-0 after 2 ot's.  Loras picked up the pace but played so much long ball.  A couple off the post and a few side nets still equals 0 for the Duhawks.  Hopefully Cavers will be returning soon and the play will calm down a bit.  Hard fought battle but a tie none the less!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Medicated Pete on September 11, 2013, 10:33:54 PM
Quote from: KICKIN95 on September 11, 2013, 09:00:40 PM
I wrote a little note to the UWO SID and AD letting them know that this is DIII nor DI.  I paid the $8 and am having buyers remorse.  The feed quality is marginal at best, they do have 1 close up camera that looks to be HD, but is used so little it's hard to tell.
  Now about the 1st half: this is the first match this year I have witnessed and i am somewhat surprised by the lack of possession and abundance of long ball on the Duhawks part.  I guess without their quarterback they are doing what they need to do to win.  The passing is on the sloppy side to put it nicely and the head down when the ball is on my feet technique hasn't fooled the Titans as of yet.  I am not bashing Loras, just very surprised to se this style from them.  They are winning and that is all that counts for now.

totally agree with you..nothing is more upsetting then watching direct balls up top constantly without any possession play in the middle.. it makes my stomach turn to think we have sooooo much to offer in the middle and we dump it like a Blackhawks game  :'( :'( :'(

Final 0-0 .. Kudos to the Titans..they played like the better team..

Lack of Substitution gets me for Loras...That last eleven saw about 15 minutes in the 2nd as well as both OT....definitely winded..SUB!!!

+1 Duhawks hang on for a draw.....On to the next game... letzzzgo
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 11, 2013, 10:37:23 PM
Here is the recap:  UWO was much like NP, tons of possession and nothing inside the 20.  Loras seemed to be off tonight on their first touches and made countless blind passes to UWO defenders.  Rummelhart had 3 great opportunities that the Oshkosh goalie just got a toe or finger on.  Loras literally missed 4 chances inside of 6 and actually put 1 over the crossbar from 1 yd out off a corner kick scrum in the box.  Wasn't the Duhawks night for putting it in the back of the net. The Duhawks will have to figure out their lack of scoring their next match.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Sirius90 on September 12, 2013, 09:18:53 AM
$8 to watch an internet feed? Nope. I hope that doesn't become a common business model for D3 soccer. I recently was charged $4 to get into a non-conference D3 soccer game. I asked the student if there were refunds if the soccer sucked. He didn't get it.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 12, 2013, 09:38:46 AM
I emailed the SID at Oshkosh and let them know my feeling on charging $8 to watch a DIII soccer match. I told him sports are not supposed to be net positive revenue generators and it was counterintuitive to the philosophy of DIII athletics. 
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: TheBLVD on September 12, 2013, 09:52:05 AM
That was some of the sloppiest I've seen Loras play in a long time. If I didn't know better, I would just have assumed that Loras was playing without a midfield whatsoever. Every chance they got they just lobbed it down the field to no avail. I understand that the Duhawks love to push forward with some pace, but they do that best when they play through the midfield to connect the play from the back to the front. There also seemed to be too much over-dribbling (especially when they eventually got the ball to their midfielders) when an easy one-two was there for them to work in and out of the space.

You gotta give credit to UWO though, they defended rather well and were able to get a solid result.

As for the $8 to watch the match, that is just ludicrous. 

Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Saint of Old on September 12, 2013, 11:17:00 AM
Paid out some serious $ last year as well.
Thankfully my team's games are free this year.
Broadcasting games free can still be generate positive revenue, since many has beens will be reconnected with their alma mater and contribute much more than the $8.00.

P.S. Big shout outs to RPI broadcasts, its like watching ESPN. Replays/Comentary and Everything.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 12, 2013, 01:08:38 PM
Quote from: TheBLVD on September 12, 2013, 09:52:05 AM
That was some of the sloppiest I've seen Loras play in a long time. If I didn't know better, I would just have assumed that Loras was playing without a midfield whatsoever. Every chance they got they just lobbed it down the field to no avail. I understand that the Duhawks love to push forward with some pace, but they do that best when they play through the midfield to connect the play from the back to the front. There also seemed to be too much over-dribbling (especially when they eventually got the ball to their midfielders) when an easy one-two was there for them to work in and out of the space.

You gotta give credit to UWO though, they defended rather well and were able to get a solid result.

As for the $8 to watch the match, that is just ludicrous.
I agree on the long ball and poor pass selection.  I think not having Cavers in the midfield is a big reason as to why they are playing longball.  To quote Hayden Fry they have to "Scratch where it itches" until their quarterback returns.  If that means longball with little possession so be it.  I have a feeling things will settle down and get back Duhawk soccer when Cavers makes his return.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on September 13, 2013, 11:34:56 AM
Weekend Predictions

Friday
Grand View 2 - Central 1
Fontbonne 1 - Simpson 1
Buena Vista 1 - Marian 2

Saturday
Carroll 0 - Loras 4
Wartburg 2 - UW-Whitewater 1
Ill. Wesleyan 1 - Dubuque 0

Sunday
Wartburg 0 - UW-Oshkosh 1
Central 2 - Augustana 1
St. John's 0 - Loras 4
Buena Vista 3 - Rockford 0
Luther 2 - St. Olaf 1
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: TheBLVD on September 13, 2013, 05:16:59 PM
My shot at the weekend's fixtures


Friday
Grand View 0 - Central 2
Fontbonne 1 - Simpson 2
Buena Vista 0 - Marian 3

Saturday
Carroll 0 - Loras 3
Wartburg 2 - UW-Whitewater 2
Ill. Wesleyan 3 - Dubuque 0

Sunday
Wartburg 1 - UW-Oshkosh 2
Central 1 - Augustana 2
St. John's 0 - Loras 5
Buena Vista 3 - Rockford 1
Luther 3 - St. Olaf 2
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on September 14, 2013, 01:53:17 PM
In the Marian-BVU game, the Sabres had their forward score a hat trick 2:38 of gametime (3', 5', 6'). He would later add a 4th in the 55'.

Kid's gotta be talented, but also BVU looked like absolute garbage. Didn't help that their new forward, Kwame Antwi, came up limping just a few minutes into the match and barely played.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on September 14, 2013, 02:07:08 PM
Looks as though Erik Berkowitz has returned to the forward spot. If I remember correctly, it was about this time last year that he came forward from his OB/CDM spot and went on a tear offensively.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on September 14, 2013, 02:58:30 PM
Things seemed to have slowed down after the early goal. Didn't appear to have the same intensity in the second part of the half.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on September 14, 2013, 03:18:45 PM
Free Kick from Carroll just outside of the penalty area leads to a goal for the Pioneers. Milkent unable to come up with cross, leads to shot towards empty net. 1-1 with 35 to go.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 14, 2013, 04:04:14 PM
Well Loras comes out with the 2-1 victory over a middle of the pack Carroll though they again looked a bit disorganized and sloppy at times.  The feed was poor to say the least with constant pauses and buffering, but I am sure they will get it straightened out for tomorrow.  They long ball was less this game, but still seemed to be the play of choice whenever there was any pressure applied.  Hoping that they start clicking more each match and when Cavers returns they will be firing on all cylinders.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on September 14, 2013, 04:42:51 PM
I understand missing an AA can be a big blow to your team, but I just find it hard to believe that they perform like a completely different team without him in the lineup. Makes me nervous for next year when Cavers is gone for good.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: D3 Scout on September 14, 2013, 09:44:00 PM
Had the pleasure of watching Wartburg play Whitewater today and I can say this is the best Wartburg team I have seen in years. Their attacking front line is stacked with some of the fastest kids on the ball I have seen this year. Will be interesting to see how they do in conference this year. As for the result of the game Wartburg lost 2-1. Whitewater will be a team to watch.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 15, 2013, 03:36:13 PM
Traveled to watch the Duhawks take on St Johns.  Johnnies didn't bother to show up for this one.  More of a shooting practice to Loras today.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 15, 2013, 03:48:34 PM
4-0 with 10min to go
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 15, 2013, 03:54:31 PM
5-0
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on September 15, 2013, 05:02:27 PM
Even though St. John's was a light opponent, I'm glad to see that the Duhawks jumped out quick and continued to net. I've seen too many times where they allow opponents to stick around, only netting once or twice.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: TheBLVD on September 16, 2013, 04:19:28 PM
I was at both of the Duhawk games this weekend.

I left the first match disgusted with what I saw. While they indeed played like garbage, quality programs can scrap out wins even when they're not at their best, and that's just what Loras did. While St. John's wasn't as threatening as Carroll, like Puerco mentioned, they were not content with a pair of goals. TVDB played well during the match, that Alex Bradley kid is mad quality, and my IIAC MVP 2013 Tommy Fluegel has been doing that mullet justice.

It was good to see UD get the result over Illinois Wesleyan. I believe that Wesleyan has Eric Gilbert (on the Loras roster last season, but- obviously- transferred) in their squad.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on September 17, 2013, 10:48:47 AM
POTW (Offense): Aleksander Glavas (Central)...Special Mention: Tom Fluegel
POTW (Defense): Dylan Milkent
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: casualfan on September 17, 2013, 09:01:51 PM
Whitewater @ Dubuque tonight. Tied 0-0 at the half.

Looks like UWW has had most of the play with the ball in the Spartans half for almost the entire first half, but only a few decent looks from it.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Medicated Pete on September 17, 2013, 10:14:31 PM
Quote from: casualfan on September 17, 2013, 09:01:51 PM
Whitewater @ Dubuque tonight. Tied 0-0 at the half.

Looks like UWW has had most of the play with the ball in the Spartans half for almost the entire first half, but only a few decent looks from it.

Whitewater dagger comes off set play...bad clearance ends up and someones foot from about 7 yards out...Goalllllazzo..
Another disappointing outing by UD...

Watching North Park destroying Dominican in the 2nd half... 3-0 so far..
Just have to say..the 2nd goal was a beaaaaaauuuuty...Chest trap brought down to left foot..half volley into the corner from about 26 yds. out...
Was a site to see..

NP is all over Dominican.....Dustars are a fast team but passing is very sloppy right now..
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: casualfan on September 18, 2013, 11:16:28 AM
It seems like Whitewater has a knack for leaving it late. Should have put the game away in the first half, but credit to UD for stepping up in the second half to even the play. It looks as if UWW is spreading out the scoring this year with goals from many different players including a few defenders. Let's see if the undefeated streak can hold up.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on September 18, 2013, 11:36:19 PM
Luther falls to UW-P, 2-1. Wow.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: TheBLVD on September 19, 2013, 09:59:55 AM
Wow. I didn't catch the Luther v. UW-P match (or, unfortunately, any Luther matches this year) since I'm in the middle of a move without the internetz yet. Did anyone get to watch? How was the overall match?

That's an awful result for them. I heard whispers that Garcia-Pratz wasn't even starting any more.

Excuse my ignorance if I'm wrong about that.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on September 19, 2013, 11:28:34 AM
Garcia-Prats did not start..
http://sports.luther.edu/stats/men/soccer/2013/lut-uwp.htm

This was also the Luther squad that squeaked by St. John's 3-2 after falling behind 2-0.
http://sports.luther.edu/stats/men/soccer/2013/lut-sju.htm

Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: ldahoSoccer on September 19, 2013, 06:01:46 PM
Three undefeated teams left in IIAC; Coe, Simpson, and Loras.  Interesting crew
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on September 20, 2013, 05:10:45 PM
Weekend Schedule

9/20
Coe 1 - Fontbonne 1
Dubuque 1 - North Park 3

9/21
Carthage 1 - Wartburg 2
Luther 1 - St. Thomas 2
Iowa Wesleyan 0 - Central 7

9/22
Coe 0 - Webster 2
Presentation 0 - Buena Vista 3
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Ambush004 on September 22, 2013, 05:52:05 PM
Wartburg beats Carthage, big win for the knights
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on September 23, 2013, 10:47:40 AM
Will be attending the Loras @ Wheaton game tomorrow night. Hopefully these teams live up to the hype. Should be a great game.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on September 23, 2013, 12:13:01 PM
Loras 3 - Wheaton 2

I, too, will be attending. Both meetings last year were stellar, so expecting a lot of the same this time around.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 23, 2013, 01:28:53 PM
I am going with a 2-1 victory for the Duhawks. 
     There will be 15 plus shots from both teams and many corners.  Figura will tally 1 from the air on a corner and Cavers will return to his scoring ways with a nifty little move to create just enough space to rip a 20 yd shot to the lower left side net.


Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Ambush004 on September 23, 2013, 01:36:52 PM
I think the score will be tied fun to fun at the end of the first half but then the Thunder start dropping F bombs, talk smack, and lose the calm poliite selves that they are known to be and the duhawks score 2.

2-0 duhawks. With Figura and Fluegel scoring goals.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Medicated Pete on September 23, 2013, 10:51:30 PM
 ;D Can't wait..I'm there - bringing the HS Soccer team there to back the duhawks!! letzgoo
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: OriginalStorm on September 24, 2013, 08:36:34 PM
I am sure the Duhawk faithful are watching the game as I type.  How is the soccer?

Been watching for 13 minutes and the number of 5 pass sequences = 0

They can get to 4....but after that we have to do something that kills possession.  Not good soccer and not soccer to use as a symbol for youth coaches.  Maybe when Loras brings on their 15 subs it will change.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 24, 2013, 08:46:41 PM
Here we go folks the kickoff to Loras v Wheaton!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 24, 2013, 08:47:48 PM
OHHH Kutzke a sitter! Come on those need to be buried!  He was so wide open with the ball on his foot from 8 yds out that I think he kind of panicked.

Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: OriginalStorm on September 24, 2013, 08:48:15 PM
I just saw Dan get out of his lawn chair...he must mean business...
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 24, 2013, 08:54:01 PM
Now that is how you do it!! Berkowitz makes it 1-0 on the deep throw in from Burgmeier!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: OriginalStorm on September 24, 2013, 08:57:19 PM
Yes! The long throw!!  A staple of American soccer.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 24, 2013, 09:10:50 PM
Quote from: OriginalStorm on September 24, 2013, 08:57:19 PM
Yes! The long throw!!  A staple of American soccer.
It is a weapon that teams all around the world are slowly beginning to utilize.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 24, 2013, 09:23:37 PM
Cavers has to be one of if not the best center mid in D3, every time he touches the ball he creates havoc for the opposing team and scoring opps for the Duhawks.  Let the discussion begin
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 24, 2013, 09:57:29 PM
That the ballgame with a late goal from Fluegel 2-0 Loras!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 24, 2013, 10:02:31 PM
And now we know why Wheaton's coach doesn't want to continue this great rivalry.  Lost the last 3 on an aggregate of 6-1. Sad really, I love watching these 2 play each other.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on September 25, 2013, 12:30:46 AM
That was one hell of a match.

Cavers is filthy. Made a few Wheaton players look silly tonight.

Wheaton is a sound squad, but tonight, it was all about the swarm and defensive pressure that Loras applied. The second goal of the game by Fluegel was nasty. Keeper looked like he might have been out of position, but #17 made the most of a tight window.

Most complete game that the Duhawks have played all season long. If tonight was when things started to click, I feel bad for UD come Saturday.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on September 25, 2013, 12:38:45 AM
Around the conference...

Wartburg defeats Gustavus Adolphus, 2-1. GAC was up 1-0 before giving up two unanswered.

UD blows another game. Gives up goals in the 84' and 88' to lose to Macalester. Yikes.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: socdude4 on September 25, 2013, 07:54:40 AM
Quote from: KICKIN95 on September 24, 2013, 10:02:31 PM
And now we know why Wheaton's coach doesn't want to continue this great rivalry.  Lost the last 3 on an aggregate of 6-1. Sad really, I love watching these 2 play each other.

I could guess why. As an impartial observer of D3 I tuned in because it seemed like a good match-up and game and it was. Being the first time I've ever watched Loras, I was incredibly disappointed with their play. They have a good enough team to not have to play as dirty as they do. A lot of late tackles, high elbows, kicking the ball away when a foul is called (repeatedly). The official let them get away with it which didn't help things. Is this "typical" Loras?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 25, 2013, 09:57:13 AM
Quote from: socdude4 on September 25, 2013, 07:54:40 AM
Quote from: KICKIN95 on September 24, 2013, 10:02:31 PM
And now we know why Wheaton's coach doesn't want to continue this great rivalry.  Lost the last 3 on an aggregate of 6-1. Sad really, I love watching these 2 play each other.

I could guess why. As an impartial observer of D3 I tuned in because it seemed like a good match-up and game and it was. Being the first time I've ever watched Loras, I was incredibly disappointed with their play. They have a good enough team to not have to play as dirty as they do. A lot of late tackles, high elbows, kicking the ball away when a foul is called (repeatedly). The official let them get away with it which didn't help things. Is this "typical" Loras?

I can think of 1 late tackle and it was called.  I call also recall 3 blatant high studs as well as late tackles from Wheaton ( 1 was 25 yds out and the ref let it go with no advantage).  If by high elbows you are talking "swim moves" that is part of the game, other than that I didn't see anything out of either teams normal play.  Kicking the ball after a foul (which was more rolling with their spikes) is done by every single team in soccer at every level, hence the reason the ref didn't issue any cards, it's an unfortunate part of the game that has become allowable gamesmanship.  Loras came out and played a physical match and outplayed Wheaton plain and simple.  The post match interview of Wheaton's coach had the same sentiments, " the better team won tonight", " We let them push us around, out muscled us to the ball", " I made sure at half time to let them know how I felt about letting them push us around". Never mentioned or hinted that Loras was dirty.
  I'm not sure if you are used to watching high school or club soccer, but I can tell you that Loras is not in anyway a "dirty" team.  They knew this game was going to be a battle and would be won by the team that was wiling to get those 50/50 balls and put relentless pressure on until the other team broke.  Sure there wereincidents, but I can recall 1 to 1 a Wheaton foul or "dirty" play (as you call it) for each Loras foul.  Stats show 19 fouls for Loras and 16 for Wheaton and the only card was given to Wheaton ( how can that be Loras is so dirty!?!)  The visiting team to Wheaton's Joe Bean Stadium is dirty but mysteriously doesn't receive a single card and only has 3 more fouls?  I think you need to watch a few more Wheaton matches and then re assess your statement.  Wheaton plays Wash U (another physical team) this saturday, will be a great match.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: PaulNewman on September 25, 2013, 10:47:24 AM
I watched the last 30 minutes or so of Loras vs Wheaton in part because I wanted to see what all the fuss is about.

First, I thought the video quality was excellent.  I also thought compared to what else is out there the commentary, especially by the play-by-play guy, was first rate.  The interview with the coach afterwards is a nice touch.  (By the way, I thought the Wheaton coach in a very professional way was complaining about Loras' physicality while he did emphasize that the better team won on the day).  Anyway, I was very impressed with Wheaton's internet broadcast and the overall professionalism for the D3 level.

Regarding the play, I was very impressed by both teams.  Loras looked a little more dangerous, and that 2nd goal was first-class.  The kid make a great individual play but I still didn't think he had an angle to score and the finish was surgical.  Until the 2nd goal, I just as easily could have seen Wheaton getting the equalizer and the game going to OT.  As the announcers and coach noted, these teams could meet again.

I was impressed with the skill and creative movement off the ball by both teams.  Very similar to what I have seen from OWU and Messiah.  IMHO, these teams all play a better brand of soccer than what one finds in the NESCAC.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on September 25, 2013, 11:02:30 AM
Kickin...I know you'll defend Loras to the death. But there was one player on the Loras side that stood out to me and the folks I was with, as being pretty cheap...#3 was a hack, and also blew 2 great scoring chances by running aronnd the ball to try and setup his right foot, when he had an open look with his left. But one player, does not a team make.

Otherwise I thought Loras was just a more physical (fairly so), faster team. They defended very well, with smothering high pressure all over the pitch. They were very disruptive to Wheaton and quite frankly deserved the result.

Cavers was very impressive, as were a few of the players in Loras' backline. There were a few times in transition where Loras' outside mids/fwd mis-handled a final pass inside the box, while pretty wide open to go to goal. They sure that up, and Loras could have won this match by 3 or 4. I expect they will only get better.

There was a stretch in the second half where I thought Wheaton might get an equalizer. They were possessing well through the back and middle, but fell apart up top. Wheaton really looked threatening on corner kicks and set plays. The Thunder definitely picked up their pysicality as the game wore one, but it was too little, too late. They couldn't match Loras.

A bit suprised by the Wartburg/GAC result. Looks like GAC had the advantage in run of play, outshooting Wartburg 15-10. GAC's best center back appears to be out with an injury. Seems to be some chemestry issues that need to be sorted out with the replacement.

Looks like Wartburg is making a surge back to relevence this year with some positive non-confernece results. They may be able to give Loras a run for the money this year in conference?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 25, 2013, 11:37:22 AM
I agree completely with the mishandling of passes, it is so frustrating to watch that happen knowing that a light touch and a left foot could equal a goal.  Less messing around to set up your "strong foot" and more shooting when the chance presents itself will more than not lead to goals, you will not score 100% of the time if you don't take the shot.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: TheBLVD on September 25, 2013, 11:53:22 AM
I am an extremely biased person when it comes to Wheaton, and I couldn't be happier about that match. Oh boy it was a wonderful match to watch. Broke out the ol' projector, hooked it up to my computer, and enjoyed a classic. Wheaton started off stronger, but once Loras got going, there weren't many clear chances for the Thunder. They had shots, yes, but most were from distance and were easily contained by Milkent in goal.

Tommy Fluegel (my pick for IIAC MVP) finished like a pro on that late break, and it seemed like Wheaton struggled to calmly defend set pieces against the Duhawks. Dillon Olson, Kutzke, and Rummelhart all missed one perfect opportunities. In regards to the physicality, I loved it. If people were going to complain about the physicality they could sign up their son up for women's soccer. It's a physical sport. Yes, it might have gotten a little heated, but it was going both ways. There's no need to frequently whistle every time there's some contact just so the flow of the match is disturbed.

I thought the stream was very well done, and I thought the commentary was great. That was, until Wheaton was still down towards the end of the match. Then it was the classic Wheaton complacency that we all know and love. Yes, Loras kicked the ball away a handful of times towards the end, but just about every team does that when they're up in the dying minutes. Want a couple of salt licks for that high horse of yours Wheaton? The Wheaton commentators thought it was worse than murder. My favorite moment had to be when Cavers pulled off his trademark meg on one of the Wheaton players and straight up embarrassed him only to have one of the commentators dismiss the skill and the reaction it drew because it was too far away from the goal. I was glad to hear his partner on the mic defend the move and its reaction by stating that it probably would have garnered a similar reaction if it were a Wheaton player who had done it.

All in all, the Duhawks started slow, but I thought they were in control for 87.53286% of the match, and played comfortably. Now on to the weekend where I'm predicting a 57-0 Loras College win over UD with Dylan Milkent scoring 42 of the goals and assisting on the other 15.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on September 25, 2013, 12:04:48 PM
The #3 that you're referring to is Rummelhart. The fastest man on the pitch. In his forward role, his job is to constantly apply pressure to the opposing backline, and yes, just like most players, results in "hacks". When you play hard and physical there are going to be misses on tackles, just a part of the game.

I won't try to make the argument that he's the most skilled player on the pitch, but his work ethic on offense and defense is not matched by many. Thought he could've buried a couple of his chances, but just wasn't in the cards.

If I'm drafting a team, I take #3 every single time.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Ambush004 on September 25, 2013, 01:28:04 PM
I was impressed with wheatons individual skill of their players, Borge in the middle is real smooth along with Noah. Hollingsworth has the work ethic that you need for a forward ad he skill. However these players do not click together. Wheaton did not play as a team and that's where they lose in these close games, very talented team individually but no chemistry together. Maybe take a day off and go to the bar!!

Loras I was impressed defensively this time, they seemed N'SYNC. Cavers was the best player on the field and always makes something happen when the ball is on his feet, Borge takes notes! Can't wait to see these two teams meet in the tournament, it will be a must see.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: PaulNewman on September 25, 2013, 03:03:34 PM
Let's be fair.  Compared to what else is out there the commentary was pretty even-handed.  It was after all the Wheaton broadcast team.  And only one of them expressed some bias, which he outright owned as a Wheaton alum and the same guy said any team (even Wheaton) would waste time in the final 10 minutes of a game.  And the kicking the ball away every time WAS poor form by the 7th or 8th time.

Not taking anything away from Loras.  Can definitely see them being crowned national champs.  Impressive team.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: OriginalStorm on September 25, 2013, 03:04:23 PM
Quote from: KICKIN95 on September 24, 2013, 09:10:50 PM
Quote from: OriginalStorm on September 24, 2013, 08:57:19 PM
Yes! The long throw!!  A staple of American soccer.
It is a weapon that teams all around the world are slowly beginning to utilize.

Yes.  You are right..all the top teams like Stoke.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on September 25, 2013, 03:06:16 PM
You're right NCAC, even though it seems to be common practice in soccer at all levels, its something that I feel takes away from the game. However, I'm not quite sure how they would reel it back in now that its gotten to the point where its at.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: OriginalStorm on September 25, 2013, 03:09:35 PM
Quote from: NCAC New England on September 25, 2013, 03:03:34 PM
Let's be fair.  Compared to what else is out there the commentary was pretty even-handed.  It was after all the Wheaton broadcast team.  And only one of them expressed some bias, which he outright owned as a Wheaton alum and the same guy said any team (even Wheaton) would waste time in the final 10 minutes of a game.  And the kicking the ball away every time WAS poor form by the 7th or 8th time.

Not taking anything away from Loras.  Can definitely see them being crowned national champs.  Impressive team.

What about them makes them a possible national champion in your eyes?  I have not seen enough of other team outside the region.  Is it the talent or is it in their quality of play?

Thanks in advance for your insight.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: PaulNewman on September 25, 2013, 03:19:32 PM
Certainly no expert.  But they clearly are a top team and can play straight up with the likes of Messiah and OWU.  And they appear to have the type of difference makers that a team needs to prevail in huge games, like Travis Wall for OWU in 2011.  There are teams where you wonder how and if they will ever score.  And then there are teams like Loras, Messiah, and OWU where you're still expecting them to win even if they are down a goal in the 85th minute.  It is tough to keep them off the board for a full 90 minutes.  Loras looks like maybe they have enough star power to get over that last hurdle.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on September 25, 2013, 03:36:44 PM
Using my annual troll of the Loras thread aka IIAC thread mid-season...

"Is it the talent or is it in their quality of play?"  You are asking this question to someone from  NE USA who watched one game via webcast...

I am sure Loras is really good but their fans were just complaining a week ago how the team is average without Cavers (switching to long ball tactics, etc.).

If Cavers suffered a season ending injury tomorrow would Loras win the IIAC?

This thread has spiraled out of control over a Loras win against 5-3 Wheaton.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on September 25, 2013, 04:51:22 PM
No question they'd win the IIAC. Without Cavers, the team was still undefeated (5-0-1). Did they miss the player of an All-American, no question, but they still produced victories.

And at the end of the day, that's what counts....right?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 25, 2013, 04:59:21 PM
Quote from: GarbageGoals33 on September 25, 2013, 03:36:44 PM
Using my annual troll of the Loras thread aka IIAC thread mid-season...

"Is it the talent or is it in their quality of play?"  You are asking this question to someone from  NE USA who watched one game via webcast...

I am sure Loras is really good but their fans were just complaining a week ago how the team is average without Cavers (switching to long ball tactics, etc.).

If Cavers suffered a season ending injury tomorrow would Loras win the IIAC?

This thread has spiraled out of control over a Loras win against 5-3 Wheaton.

Umm they were 5-2 before Loras beat them.
  Yet Loras still seems to have won without Cavers regardless of how they played.
Geez GG didn't GAC just get beat by 5-2-2 Wartburg and even worse was the 4-2-2 CSC guys.  Wheaton's losses were 2-1 to Hope (7-1-1) & 1-0 to Chicago (5-1-2) and 2-0 to Loras (7-0-2).  When you troll you are usually much better than this.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on September 25, 2013, 05:13:45 PM
You can take a stab at GAC if you want Kickin, I am not claiming GAC to be world beaters.  If they played up to their potential and scored their chances they would be unbeaten and untied (as would Loras).  I am certain this GAC team would give Loras a run for their money if they meet up in the NCAA tournament this year.  Hopefully we can continue this discussion in November.   

I was simply stating that a week or two ago when Cavers was injured it sounded like Loras season was going down the tubes.  Now you guys have switched your tone to national championship talk... Sillyness.




Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on September 25, 2013, 05:29:43 PM
Just curious, Garbage, how would the Gusties fare against Wheaton?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 25, 2013, 05:32:40 PM
Quote from: GarbageGoals33 on September 25, 2013, 05:13:45 PM
You can take a stab at GAC if you want Kickin, I am not claiming GAC to be world beaters.  If they played up to their potential and scored their chances they would be unbeaten and untied (as would Loras).  I am certain this GAC team would give Loras a run for their money if they meet up in the NCAA tournament this year.  Hopefully we can continue this discussion in November.   

I was simply stating that a week or two ago when Cavers was injured it sounded like Loras season was going down the tubes.  Now you guys have switched your tone to national championship talk... Sillyness.

If things go right for both teams they might get to see each other.  I was the one who said they were playing like crap without him and the first 2 matches they certainly were, but I don't ever recall saying they were now assured the trophy. I hope the 2 teams do play each other because I believe I still owe your a sixer.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: PaulNewman on September 25, 2013, 06:46:02 PM
GG33, not sure what your issue is, or what issues others may have.  I have no allegiance to any of these teams, and I was the poster who introduced the national title theme.  Any team would be weakened at least a bit if they lost their best player, no?  And it would make sense that a final four team from last year returning most its star players might be a contender, right?  What teams would you suggest are stronger contenders at this point?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on September 26, 2013, 10:26:08 AM
If I think that GAC has the ability to beat Loras then obviously I think that GAC would beat Wheaton. 


Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 26, 2013, 11:12:20 AM
Quote from: GarbageGoals33 on September 26, 2013, 10:26:08 AM
If I think that GAC has the ability to beat Loras then obviously I think that GAC would beat Wheaton.

Transitive equalities don't always work in this fickle sport. 
   
   After seeing the results thus far for GAC I don't think they have the ability to beat Loras this year.  Even your own prediction for the GAC v SJU match this week show the differences (GAC 2-1 SJU,  Loras pummeled SJU 5-0, so using transitive equalities shouldn't GAC beat SJU 6-0?) .  IMO the GAC defense ins't organized enough to hold off the Loras attack.  I have no doubt the GAC midfield and forwards have skills, but just wouldn't be enough to get the job done this year.  This is just my feeling for this season, who knows what next season will bring?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on September 26, 2013, 11:46:57 AM
 GAC @ SJU in a conference match is a bit different than SJU traveling down to Loras for a game.  SJU travelled to Platteville and went to OT the night before they played Loras.  SJU rarely gets blown out in conference play but they $#!t the bed a couple times every season.  I would compare SJU to Central or Simpson. 

GAC's defense has given up 5 goals this year (two coming last game while GAC was without a starting centerback), I think their defense would do just fine against Loras.

They have played 3 comparable opponents this season:
          GAC    Loras
CSC   0-1      2-1           Loras dominates and scores late winner.  GAC dominates and gives up penalty and doesn't score.
UWS  2-1      1-1           Loras dominates and ties.   GAC plays evenly and wins.
UWO 0-0       0-0          Loras ties without Cavers.   GAC ties while down to 10 men for half the game.

Now, after typing this analysis I am sure SJU will have their game of the season and nick a result off of GAC.

Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 26, 2013, 12:46:43 PM
I think GAC will be just fine against SJU.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: ldahoSoccer on September 26, 2013, 01:07:24 PM
Quote from: GarbageGoals33 on September 26, 2013, 10:26:08 AM
If I think that GAC has the ability to beat Loras then obviously I think that GAC would beat Wheaton.

Oh boy...
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: OriginalStorm on September 26, 2013, 01:38:39 PM
Quote from: GarbageGoals33 on September 25, 2013, 03:36:44 PM
Using my annual troll of the Loras thread aka IIAC thread mid-season...

"Is it the talent or is it in their quality of play?"  You are asking this question to someone from  NE USA who watched one game via webcast...

I am sure Loras is really good but their fans were just complaining a week ago how the team is average without Cavers (switching to long ball tactics, etc.).

If Cavers suffered a season ending injury tomorrow would Loras win the IIAC?

This thread has spiraled out of control over a Loras win against 5-3 Wheaton.

It is a valid question.  The reason for it is to merely see why this guy after watching one game they are national championship contenders. 

It is a bit ridiculous for comments to be made from one game.  I also love the insight from people from the MIAC.  They love to look down at the IIAC with such disdain.  I know these are large sweeping generalizations.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on September 26, 2013, 06:33:41 PM
Anyways, getting back to a legitimate conversation rather than talking about top contenders for a tournament 2 months away.

Looking at the IIAC overall standings going into the start of Conference play this weekend, I don't know if we should be "impressed" that Simpson is undefeated thus far or look at it more of a weak schedule with teams that I have never heard of besides Grinnell and Bethal. Strangely enough, I am looking forward to them playing at Loras next Tuesday. Does anyone have any insight as to what their play looks like? Fast, dump and chase, Defensive, or just lucky?

Also gotta be curious about UD and the fact that they have won one game. Granted they have some decent teams on their schedule. I understand building your schedule up but don't you make the whole stew out of them, gotta just pepper it a bit to start.

Thoughts?

P.S Loras vs GAC = 3-0 Loras 
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: PaulNewman on September 26, 2013, 07:50:35 PM
Silly?  Ridiculous?  Non-legitimate?

Ever heard of preseason predictions?  Early and mid-season predictions?  Why so hypercritical regarding one comment about a final four team from last year winning every game this year with a tough schedule being in the conversation for end of the year honors?

OK.  Loras has no chance.  Is that better???
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on September 26, 2013, 09:00:42 PM
I'm okay with the discussion. We Duhawk Faitful catch flack, but I don't see many other IIAC teams that have the resume of the Duhawks.

Personally, I like to hear the opinion of "outsiders" or those that aren't regulars to IIAC soccer. So thank you NCAC for your contribution.

UD is struggling and will only continue to struggle. They'll finish below .500 this year.

Simpson's opponents have a combined record of 25-37-6. Two of those teams (Ill. Wesleyan and Fontbonne) have records above .500. So in short, don't get too high on the Storm.

According to the Bennett Rankings, Loras has a SOS of 19, while Simpson checks in at 252. These are based on the team's they have played so far, not the season in total.

The Bennett Rankings are new this year, so I'm not sold on it yet, just providing some evidence to back up my statement.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Medicated Pete on September 26, 2013, 09:25:36 PM
Update:
after going down 1-0 to Waldorf (who are they? exactly) Luther now up 3-1...  33min left in 2nd half
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on September 26, 2013, 09:34:13 PM
Quote from: NCAC New England on September 26, 2013, 07:50:35 PM
Silly?  Ridiculous?  Non-legitimate?

Ever heard of preseason predictions?  Early and mid-season predictions?  Why so hypercritical regarding one comment about a final four team from last year winning every game this year with a tough schedule being in the conversation for end of the year honors?

OK.  Loras has no chance.  Is that better???

Is this comment directed at me?

Preseason predictions are arbitrary. Mid-season predictions are a little bit better but still pointless. How many number 1 teams lose before the final four in March Madness? I didn't mind the prediction, it's something on all Loras fans minds throughout the season. All I was trying to do was change the subject to something more current.

If you're going to throw a prediction out there be prepared to hear some backlash about it...
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on September 26, 2013, 09:41:02 PM
Quote from: Medicated Pete on September 26, 2013, 09:25:36 PM
Update:
after going down 1-0 to Waldorf (who are they? exactly) Luther now up 3-1...  33min left in 2nd half

Waldorf is a NAIA school.
3-6-1.

Luther is their only regular season NCAA opponent.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: pad3fan on September 27, 2013, 08:59:12 AM
Puerco Espin, to your question of how to reel kicking the ball away. If the official would enforce The Laws of the Game and start pulling cards, I feel certain it would reduce the practice. If a player does it again, pull the red. If there is one thing I would think any competitive athelete wants to do, it is play ;)
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 27, 2013, 09:10:05 AM
Just checked out the Bennett Rankings.  They even rank the conferences for individual team rankings and it is no surprise to see the IIAC ranked 9 out of 11.  What is surprising to see is that the MIAC is 10th, that should ruffle a few feathers of our friends to the north. These rankings seem to be based on SOS and OWP, so now that conference seasons are about to start how much can these conference rankings really change if they are just playing each other.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 27, 2013, 09:55:30 AM
Quote from: pad3fan on September 27, 2013, 08:59:12 AM
Puerco Espin, to your question of how to reel kicking the ball away. If the official would enforce The Laws of the Game and start pulling cards, I feel certain it would reduce the practice. If a player does it again, pull the red. If there is one thing I would think any competitive athelete wants to do, it is play ;)
Yellow card yes, but I don't think a red card would ever be issued for something like that
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: PaulNewman on September 27, 2013, 10:22:43 AM
Looked at the Bennett Rankings also.  Of course disappointed to see NCAC at 14.  Can't figure how they do SOS with NESCAC ranked so highly.  Sure, the NESCAC teams face each other, but otherwise they all have a nice share of cupcakes on their schedules.  None of them play the type of non-conference schedule characteristic of OWU, Calvin, Loras, Wheaton, or even a school like Centre who already has played DePauw, Kenyon and Emory.  And the bottom 3-4 NESCAC teams are fairly weak.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on September 27, 2013, 10:46:40 AM
Sadly, with the emergence of the UMAC, a lot of the MIAC schools are playing cupcake teams out of the UMAC (Bethany Lutheran, Martin Luther, Northwestern, Crown, etc.).  Prior to the UMAC's existence the MIAC schools were playing the best of the IIAC (Wartburg, Luther, Loras, and Central), Wisconsin schools (UWW and UWO), and the NWC (Puget Sound, Pacific Lutheran, Linfield, and Whitworth).  It is pretty boring to see the MIAC's SOS drop as badly as it has in recent years, I am guessing a lot of it has to do with cutting costs.  In the MIAC, the athletic departments aren't as likely to fly teams out to Colorado Springs to play a couple weekend games vs. Colorado College and another very good opponent anymore.  Lame.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on September 27, 2013, 11:52:12 AM
In addition to the finacial implication, the realigment of the regions a few years back had a big hand in this as well. It doesn't make much sense to travel west, as the results won't count toward your NCAA bid, even if the competition is strong. Besides, I think if you combine the North and Central regions, we have plenty of good opponents within a few hours drive...

It would be cool to see some kind of "Champions League" non-conference scheduling, including the teams from the North and Central Region. Could include  1 UMAC, 2-3 IIAC & MIAC, 2 WIAC, 2 CCIW, 1 MWC. Include 8-10 teams total, split them into 2 divisions and play 4 or 5 games prior to conference compeitions, against the best teams...
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 27, 2013, 11:55:58 AM
Quote from: gustiefan04 on September 27, 2013, 11:52:12 AM
In addition to the finacial implication, the realigment of the regions a few years back had a big hand in this as well. It doesn't make much sense to travel west, as the results won't count toward your NCAA bid, even if the competition is strong. Besides, I think if you combine the North and Central regions, we have plenty of good opponents within a few hours drive...

It would be cool to see some kind of "Champions League" non-conference scheduling, including the teams from the North and Central Region. Could include  1 UMAC, 2-3 IIAC & MIAC, 2 WIAC, 2 CCIW, 1 MWC. Include 8-10 teams total, split them into 2 divisions and play 4 or 5 games prior to conference compeitions, against the best teams...

Thats's a great idea, I think it would be great to see some top teams who never get a chance to play each other go head to head.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on September 28, 2013, 02:04:14 PM
Prediction: Duhawks will have more goals than UD will have shots on goal.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on September 28, 2013, 03:11:41 PM
Just from watching 30 seconds of the Women's feed, I have motion sickness and may lose my lunch. Do they know what a tri-pod is?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 28, 2013, 06:40:39 PM
Loras comes ou tin the 1st half and pretty much handled UD going up 2-0. UD tried to make the 2nd half more of a battle but by then the Duhawks were in preservation mode and just defended their lead.  Both teams had some good looks in the 2nd half, but the wet field made it tough to get a good foot on the ball.  Loras extends their winning and un-scored on streak to 2013 in the IIAC.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 28, 2013, 10:11:57 PM
Wheaton with a great OT win against WashU, very fast pace to this match.  The winning goal was a very well executed header from a long service to the far post.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: pad3fan on September 29, 2013, 12:05:39 AM
Quote from: KICKIN95 on September 27, 2013, 09:55:30 AM
Quote from: pad3fan on September 27, 2013, 08:59:12 AM
Puerco Espin, to your question of how to reel kicking the ball away. If the official would enforce The Laws of the Game and start pulling cards, I feel certain it would reduce the practice. If a player does it again, pull the red. If there is one thing I would think any competitive athelete wants to do, it is play ;)
Yellow card yes, but I don't think a red card would ever be issued for something like that

KICKIN95, give him a yellow and tell him the next time he does it, he gets another. That will get him his red and put him on the bench. Never a straight red, as the Laws state a yellow for a delay of game and also for unsporting behavior. Repeatedly kicking the ball away would fit under both.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: ldahoSoccer on September 29, 2013, 11:04:15 AM
Was UD serious with the camera? 
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on September 29, 2013, 03:03:11 PM
I'll eat crow for my prediction. I'll blame it on the weather.

Tri-pods aren't in the budget over at that school.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on September 29, 2013, 11:46:03 PM
Weekly Predictions
I'm very intrigued to see how Tuesday night's match between Loras and Simpson plays out. The Storm have an record worth mentioning so far, but Tuesday will show if it was a testament of a weak schedule or if they have turned a corner as a program.



Tuesday
Simpson 0 - Loras 3

Wednesday
Coe 0 - Luther 2
Central 2 - Dubuque 1

Saturday
Central 1 - Coe 0
BVU 0 - Simpson 3
Dubuque 0 - Luther 1
Loras 3 - Wartburg 1
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 30, 2013, 11:09:27 AM
Well with Simpson's SOS ranking of 252nd I would say their lack of opponents is a large reason for that record.  The same is true for UD, they have played and extremely tough schedule coming in at 8th in the country.  Loras has a very prickly schedule as well coming in at the 19th toughest.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Saint of Old on September 30, 2013, 11:43:59 AM
You just have to play a tough schedule.
If there are no strong teams in your conference, then find good non-conference teams.
You will get beat, but you will get better.

One of the best programs in the East for a long time (Plattsburgh) suffered last year, despite 16 wins, did not make the dance because of a weaker schedule.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 30, 2013, 12:18:22 PM
Very true Saints
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: ldahoSoccer on September 30, 2013, 12:20:18 PM
Quote from: Puerco Espin on September 29, 2013, 11:46:03 PM
Weekly Predictions
I'm very intrigued to see how Tuesday night's match between Loras and Simpson plays out. The Storm have an record worth mentioning so far, but Tuesday will show if it was a testament of a weak schedule or if they have turned a corner as a program.



Tuesday
Simpson 0 - Loras 3

Wednesday
Coe 0 - Luther 2
Central 2 - Dubuque 1

Saturday
Central 1 - Coe 0
BVU 0 - Simpson 3
Dubuque 0 - Luther 1
Loras 3 - Wartburg 1

DuHawks 100 - Simpson 0

Luther 3 - Coe 1
Dubuque 1 - Central 1

Central 2 - Coe 0
BVU 0 - Simpson 2
Dubuque 1 - Luther 1
Loras 3 - Wartburg 0

Dubuque strings a couple decent results together. 
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 01, 2013, 08:48:50 PM
Loras up 1-0 on an absolute lightning bolt of a shot from 20yds.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 01, 2013, 09:14:26 PM
2-0 with less than a minute left in the half, another beautiful strike on the outside of the foot bender to the upper 90 from 25 yds out.

Stats at the half Loras 21 shots with 5 SOG, Simpson 2 shots with 0 SOG.  This one is going pretty much as expected.  Loras has played with 1 starter (Milkent the keeper) the last 20 min of the 1st half.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 01, 2013, 09:47:39 PM
Simpson scores their first goal against Loras in 4 years on a PK from a phantom call that no one could understand.
   
  That is the 1st goal allow by Loras in conference play in 11 matches and nearly 2 years.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 01, 2013, 10:12:23 PM
3-1 Loras on a nice header off the a corner
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 01, 2013, 10:20:07 PM
Final score 3-1 on a completely dominant showing by Loras.  2 posts, 1 great save by Simpson's keep, 1 goal called back, and a mystery PK for the Storm, that's soccer for you.
Stats  33-11 shots & SOG vs 7-1 shots & SOG, I believe corners were 10 to 1 in favor of the Duhawks.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on October 02, 2013, 12:10:12 AM
Couldn't watch most of the game, but did catch the goal from JoJo Schmidt. Absolute beauty.

Also heard that after the Simpson players were announced at the beginning of the game, they walked off the field while the Loras players were being introduced. Has anyone seen something like this before?

Not sure if there was intent, but good luck trying to convince people that the entire team "accidentally" or "mistakenly" walked off the field.

Whatever. Duhawks 2-0. Next up, Wartburg.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 02, 2013, 08:46:22 AM
I turned on the match as they were beginning to announce the Loras players and yes Simpson did walk off the field after being introduced.  They are 1 of 2 things, absolutely classless or completely ignorant.  After watching the replay of the team announcements again they had this planned from the get go, because several of the players kept turning around and looking at their bench as if they were waiting for a sign to go through with it.   Either way they got throttled from whistle to whistle and were gifted the mystery PK of the season.  I think it was the only time the Storm put a ball in the 18 and was easily headed out with no one being ran over, so I am not sure where the foul occurred.  I will go back and review the replay.
   October 19th 2011 was the last time Loras was scored on in conference by anyone (Luther) let alone Simpson who hadn't scored on Loras since the 2009 season.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 02, 2013, 09:56:09 AM
I went back and watched the throw in from Simpson that led to a PK  about 20 times and cannot see a single push, pull, or trip that would warrant a foul let alone a PK.  I reviewed the Laws and cannot find an incident that would result in a PK, obstruction is an IFK, obstruction with contact is a PK but their was neither of those in this incident.  I know I am beating a dead horse and they aren't overturning anything regardless, but it burns my arse to see such a crappy call ruin a otherwise perfect match and clean sheet.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on October 02, 2013, 10:46:29 AM
Absolutely classless. The goalie does something with his hand before he runs off, don't know exactly what though. Team is undefeated for the first time in a long time and they obviously don't know how to act like they've been there before. Would like to see the conference do something about that, don't know what exactly but still isn't something a coach should allow a team to do.

Looking back at the replay the first goal the cameraman fell asleep and you couldn't see what happened to bring the ball to Lenke but it was a beaut of a shot. Then before the second goal happens (47:35 min mark) the ball rolls out for a Simpson goal kick and the goalie tries to act tough to the Loras forward, class act in this kid. Nonetheless, JoJo's goal should shut him up.

That PK call was horrible. During a time when everyone is complaining about flopping this ref awards a PK for it. If that was a foul then there were 15 other times the ref could have called a foul on both teams. But what's done is done. Onto the next one.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: OriginalStorm on October 02, 2013, 03:24:03 PM
I did catch some of the game and I did see Loras put together a few decent segments of play with some good build-up.  Their athleticism was very noticeable at times as they closed down the ball quite well and were physically superior in challenges.

I did not see this walk-off by the Storm, but I think we need to temper our response.  Granted this is a Loras heavy message board, but  let's not call in the officials from the IIAC to make a ruling.  I am sure you all felt slighted by the gesture.

I believe it would be nice to hear about other teams in the IIAC board.  As many of you are proud alumni of Loras and stick up for your college and team, I will do the same for Simpson and say that until proven otherwise the walk-off could have been a mistake. 

Giving some credit to a previously unbeaten Simpson team would be nice from time to time.  Do I think they at the top of the IIAC?  No.  If they continue to get some of the best talent in the DSM, they will be able to provide some competition at the top of the IIAC.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on October 02, 2013, 04:25:01 PM
http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/loras.portal# > On Demand > Watch Now

Looks pretty intentional to me. Where in the world of soccer does any team run off the field after their names are called? I know I've never seen it.

Unless I'm mistaken, we (meaning the collective Duhawk Faitful) have never sworn off discussion regarding other IIAC teams. There's usually very little discussion because their alumni are non-existent here on the boards.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on October 02, 2013, 04:48:22 PM
After watching the intro I would agree the move by the Simpson players shows a lack of class.

1st Loras goal was crushed.

2nd Loras goal was pretty sick.

Horrendous PK call.  Guy falls over after two Loras players try and head a long throw in.  Terrible officiating.

Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 02, 2013, 05:24:23 PM
Quote from: OriginalStorm on October 02, 2013, 03:24:03 PM
I did catch some of the game and I did see Loras put together a few decent segments of play with some good build-up.  Their athleticism was very noticeable at times as they closed down the ball quite well and were physically superior in challenges.

I did not see this walk-off by the Storm, but I think we need to temper our response.  Granted this is a Loras heavy message board, but  let's not call in the officials from the IIAC to make a ruling.  I am sure you all felt slighted by the gesture.

I believe it would be nice to hear about other teams in the IIAC board.  As many of you are proud alumni of Loras and stick up for your college and team, I will do the same for Simpson and say that until proven otherwise the walk-off could have been a mistake. 

Giving some credit to a previously unbeaten Simpson team would be nice from time to time.  Do I think they at the top of the IIAC?  No.  If they continue to get some of the best talent in the DSM, they will be able to provide some competition at the top of the IIAC.
This forum has never excluded anyone from posting.  In years past there were several Wartburg and Central faithful who regularly commented.
The walk-off was not a mistake and in poor taste.
Simpson did have a nice record and still does, that being said the level of competition was lacking any substance.  Teams can go 3 routes, pick an easy schedule to pump up your record (Simpson's ranking is 252nd for SOS), schedule a ferocious gauntlet (UD at 7th toughest) and temper your squad for the future or go for a schedule that mixes quality opponents and expected wins.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on October 02, 2013, 11:13:06 PM
The Spartans come out of the cellar and pull out a win over Central. Crazy match if you take a look at the box score. UD almost blew it in the end.

Wartburg, 2-0 winners over Buena Vista. I'll repeat that. Wartburg, 2-0 winners over Buena Vista. Maybe an off knight (sorry, couldn't pass on that pun).

Luther cruised to a 5-nil win over Coe. Maybe the Kohawks are giving BVU a run for last place...yikes.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: doolittledog on October 03, 2013, 07:38:09 AM
Quote from: Puerco Espin on October 02, 2013, 11:13:06 PM
The Spartans come out of the cellar and pull out a win over Central. Crazy match if you take a look at the box score. UD almost blew it in the end.

Wartburg, 2-0 winners over Buena Vista. I'll repeat that. Wartburg, 2-0 winners over Buena Vista. Maybe an off knight (sorry, couldn't pass on that pun).

Luther cruised to a 5-nil win over Coe. Maybe the Kohawks are giving BVU a run for last place...yikes.

Without looking at the box score...let me guess.  UD goes up 2-0, gives up 2 late goals, but instead of losing in OT like they typically do they win in OT.  Am I close? 

And I will take this as karma that the UD football team will also get a win against the Dutch this weekend.   ;D
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: ldahoSoccer on October 03, 2013, 01:45:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UoG8enTXpMc

DuHawk goals against Simpson.  They start at :44. Nasty angle.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on October 03, 2013, 01:59:42 PM
2nd goal was quite spectacular.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on October 04, 2013, 10:00:17 AM
@OriginalStorm- I would actually like to hear more from other alumni's from the IIAC rather than read Peurco, Kickin, Idaho and I talk up the Duhawks. One can only toot their own horn so many times, obviously we have not found that max number yet  ;D. The main reason I'd want the conference to get involved is to insure that this doesn't happen again to a team outside of the IIAC. IIAC has a poor skill rep as it is, no need giving us a poor sportsmanship rep either.

Good to see BV only lost by two to Wartburg, tough for those bench players though who saw that as a game they would see time though.

Maybe UD is just trying to make their highlight tape exacting with game changing plays....
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: OriginalStorm on October 04, 2013, 01:37:24 PM
@Madhatter5

I will do my best to take part in the board and add some flavor from other members of the IIAC.  I can imagine it does become a bit redundant without any other schools posting opinions and views on the conference. 

I still have not seen the issue we spoke about concerning Simpson.  I will let it lie and trust that changes have been made within the Simpson program to ensure this will not happen again.

I do believe the conference has more quality players than the other conferences give us credit.  As a former player, we traveled to California, Colorado, and spent all fall in MN beating teams and reminding them we could play.  It is easier for the people in the MIAC to say we are a one or two team conference and preach on about the strength of their conference.

Looking forward to a competitive weekend in the IIAC.  Coe and BV need to get it sorted to add the depth necessary to keep IIAC in the conversation.   Wartburg has some quality young players (2 players from CR/IC area) that could cause a shake up in the conference.  I just hope Wartburgs coaching doesn't get in the way.

Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 05, 2013, 10:00:00 PM
Loras definitely not playing like they want to be here in the 1st half, letting all the 50/50 go to Wartburg. Down 2-0 halfway thru the 2nd.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 05, 2013, 10:03:55 PM
Loras gets 1 back on a nice shot with 21 to go.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 05, 2013, 10:28:08 PM
A stunner in Waverly as the Knights down Loras 2-1.  Didn't see the 2nd goal for Wartburg, must have been right away in the 2nd half.  Wartburg earned this win for the simple fact that they out "Lorased" the Duhawks.  The last 25 of the match was a barrage of Duhawks reining down shot after shot, but couldn't convert.  Hats of to Wartburg for their great effort and the "W"!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on October 05, 2013, 10:32:29 PM
The second Wartburg goal was a result of a Loras defender over-pursuing. Wartburg player blasted a shot into upper 90 of far post.

Ugly first half played by Loras. Hats off to Wartburg, they played extremely well tonight and hunkered down and took care of business when they had the two goal lead.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Ambush004 on October 06, 2013, 09:43:33 PM
Don't sleep on the Knights. I said that from day 1
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on October 07, 2013, 12:17:00 PM
**Troll Alert**

Man, the Loras faithful have been a bit quiet since the lose to Wartburg!! :-X

Loras is a strong side, surely they will rebound. However, I think this goes to show that maybe Loras wasn't as far ahead of the rest of the region as many posters thought earlier in the season.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on October 07, 2013, 01:03:49 PM
I think it goes to show that Wartburg isn't a pushover.  Wartburg has pulled off some really nice results even though they have been outplayed in the majority of their games against top teams.

Wartburg has beaten Loras, won at UST, tied at Augsburg, tied at CarlEton, and won at GAC.  Wartburg had one rough weekend losing two games in Wisconsin (UWO and UWW).  The IIAC may be placing two teams in the NCAA tournament as long as there aren't any major setbacks from Wartburg or Loras. 

Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 07, 2013, 01:16:34 PM
Quote from: gustiefan04 on October 07, 2013, 12:17:00 PM
**Troll Alert**

Man, the Loras faithful have been a bit quiet since the lose to Wartburg!! :-X

Loras is a strong side, surely they will rebound. However, I think this goes to show that maybe Loras wasn't as far ahead of the rest of the region as many posters thought earlier in the season.
If by quiet you mean 3 Loras regulars all giving props to Wartburg for a hard fought victory than yep we have been quiet.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on October 07, 2013, 01:19:16 PM
I think GarbageGoals hit it on the head. This was a battle tested Wartburg side that executed a perfect game plan. It was rough to watch no doubt, but Wartburg was the better team on that day.

The Loras squad that played the week before at Wheaton was a lot different from the one that showed up in Waverly. Just goes to show that you can't take a day off, otherwise you'll get beat.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: ldahoSoccer on October 07, 2013, 02:46:35 PM
Quote from: gustiefan04 on October 07, 2013, 12:17:00 PM


Man, the Loras faithful have been a bit quiet since the lose to Wartburg!! :-X


::)
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on October 08, 2013, 10:56:36 AM
Wartburg and Luther RV again this week. Loras drops three spots to No. 10.

Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on October 09, 2013, 11:03:16 AM
Predictions for tonight's games?

7:00 p.m.   Carleton    Luther                     1-1 Carleton scores early in the second and Luther scores late to tie it up
7:00 p.m.   Cornell    Simpson                  0-7 ?
7:00 p.m.   Loras   Saint Mary's (Minn.) 3-0 Loras starts taking things seriously again for the last 6 games and holds the shut out.
7:30 p.m. Grinnell    Dubuque                 2-3 OT UD does UD and goes up near the end of the game to only have to come back in double OT
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 09, 2013, 11:30:37 AM
I have a feeling Loras is going to put a serious hurtin' on St Mary's.  They are going to regroup and start playing together going forward the rest of the season.  1 loss isn't the end of the world, just a good time to focus on their main goal for the season.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on October 09, 2013, 03:04:20 PM
Carleton 2 - Luther 1
Cornell 0 - Simpson 5
Loras 4 - St. Mary's 0
Grinnell 3 - Dubuque 2
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: ldahoSoccer on October 09, 2013, 04:05:18 PM
Quote from: Puerco Espin on October 09, 2013, 03:04:20 PM
Carleton 2 - Luther 1
Cornell 0 - Simpson 5
Loras 4 - St. Mary's 0
Grinnell 3 - Dubuque 2

Love the Grinnell over Dubuque call.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on October 09, 2013, 04:45:35 PM
Might be a little gutsy of a call....but I wouldn't be totally surprised to see it.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 09, 2013, 07:51:35 PM
Looks like Loras is taking out their frustration on SMU, 5-0 with 11 min to go.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 09, 2013, 07:54:38 PM
Cavers decided to make an appearance on the goals list this week.  With an assist to add to it that is a nice 3 pt match.  I personally don't think he needs to score goals to prove anything, but it must feel nice to be off the schnyde!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on October 10, 2013, 12:39:05 AM
Quote from: Puerco Espin on October 09, 2013, 03:04:20 PM
Carleton 2 - Luther 1
Cornell 0 - Simpson 5
Loras 4 - St. Mary's 0
Grinnell 3 - Dubuque 2

Final Scores
Carleton 3 - Luther 2
Cornell 1 - Simpson 8
Loras 5 - St. Mary's 0
Grinnell 0 - Dubuque 1 (OT)
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on October 10, 2013, 09:52:34 AM
Quote from: Puerco Espin on October 10, 2013, 12:39:05 AM
Quote from: Puerco Espin on October 09, 2013, 03:04:20 PM
Carleton 2 - Luther 1
Cornell 0 - Simpson 5
Loras 4 - St. Mary's 0
Grinnell 3 - Dubuque 2

Final Scores
Carleton 3 - Luther 2
Cornell 1 - Simpson 8
Loras 5 - St. Mary's 0
Grinnell 0 - Dubuque 1 (OT)

You just showing us that you got everyone wrong?  ;D
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 10, 2013, 10:03:36 AM
WTH is up with UD and OT matches this season?  They have speed and decent skills up top, but just can't seem to finish.  They need to start finishing the match in 90 min, all those OT's are going to take their toll.  So far they have played 12 matches and 6 have gone to OT that is crazy!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on October 10, 2013, 10:53:49 AM
Quote from: Madhatter5 on October 10, 2013, 09:52:34 AM
Quote from: Puerco Espin on October 10, 2013, 12:39:05 AM
Quote from: Puerco Espin on October 09, 2013, 03:04:20 PM
Carleton 2 - Luther 1
Cornell 0 - Simpson 5
Loras 4 - St. Mary's 0
Grinnell 3 - Dubuque 2

Final Scores
Carleton 3 - Luther 2
Cornell 1 - Simpson 8
Loras 5 - St. Mary's 0
Grinnell 0 - Dubuque 1 (OT)

You just showing us that you got everyone wrong?  ;D

Nah, rather than I was correct on 3/4, just was off by a few goals.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Ambush004 on October 10, 2013, 12:06:11 PM
Looks like the AA Prats is back in the starting line for Luther.  Loras vs Luther at the Rockbowl hasnt happened since 2010 when Luther was a par IIAC Team.  I'm interested in seeing the result of this game. Luther thinking they are a good program is ludicrous.   I hope the Duhawks lay the Stone Cold Stunner on them. 
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Medicated Pete on October 12, 2013, 02:03:45 PM
BVU Stream not working....can't see a slaughter  :P
come on lads..need some help
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on October 12, 2013, 02:10:19 PM
Mysteriously the feed goes out on the day that the Duhawks are about to put 15 on the board....interesting play BV.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on October 12, 2013, 04:50:55 PM
Slightly disappointed with the 5-1 decision that Loras had against BVU. I saw them earlier in the year and the Beavers looked atrocious. A win is a win, but was expecting one with more conviction...
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 12, 2013, 08:54:46 PM
Loras out shot BV 35 - 2 and SOG 13 - 1.  BV's goal came in the 86th minute after the starters were long ago relegated to the stable.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on October 13, 2013, 08:47:05 PM
I understand they dominated in that fashion, but I guess was just surprised at the +4 GD. That's all. Maybe I'm looking to far into it.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 13, 2013, 09:47:00 PM
Well the transitive property theory worked well with the BV vs SMU match today with BV winning 1-0 in the last minutes. They should have been just a slight bit better team than SMU if BVU lost 5-1 to Loras and SMU lost 5-0. Not really a valid relationship, but it played out correctly.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on October 14, 2013, 02:26:46 PM
Quote from: Puerco Espin on October 13, 2013, 08:47:05 PM
I understand they dominated in that fashion, but I guess was just surprised at the +4 GD. That's all. Maybe I'm looking to far into it.

BV goalies are always amazing between the pipes. Course with them getting 30+ shots on them a game you get a bit more practice. Hopefully some day a BV goalie will come to Loras  ;D

Looking forward to the games on Wednesday and Saturday
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: ldahoSoccer on October 14, 2013, 03:43:31 PM
Quote from: Madhatter5 on October 14, 2013, 02:26:46 PM
Quote from: Puerco Espin on October 13, 2013, 08:47:05 PM
I understand they dominated in that fashion, but I guess was just surprised at the +4 GD. That's all. Maybe I'm looking to far into it.

BV goalies are always amazing between the pipes. Course with them getting 30+ shots on them a game you get a bit more practice. Hopefully some day a BV goalie will come to Loras  ;D

Looking forward to the games on Wednesday and Saturday

BV goalies are always the best.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on October 14, 2013, 03:48:02 PM
I don't know...GarbageGoals spent a year minding the net for BV, and he was pretty awful!  :o lol
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 14, 2013, 04:52:21 PM
Quote from: gustiefan04 on October 14, 2013, 03:48:02 PM
I don't know...GarbageGoals spent a year minding the net for BV, and he was pretty awful!  :o lol
Geez tough crowd eh GG!. If I remember correctly he had an extremely low GAA in '05 (below .20), must have had on hell of a back line  ;D . Speaking of that I see Loras keeper Nate Dubois still holds the DIII Season record for Save Percentage at .955.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on October 14, 2013, 05:02:19 PM
Tough crowd for sure Kickin.

Playing for BV makes you appreciate being on a winning team.  Going to BV makes you realize how miserable NW Iowa is.

The backline at GAC was solid every season I played there.  My individual statistics were a good representation of how good/organized our team was defensively at all positions.

Nate Dubois played for Loras?


Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on October 14, 2013, 05:38:53 PM
Just busting your chops GG. In all honestly you were a heck of a keeper.

If I remember correctly DuBois had 2 stints at Loras with a transfer to/from Norther Illinois in the middle of it all.  But with a save percentage like that, you'd for sure think he was one of those elite BV keepers!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 14, 2013, 10:17:46 PM
Quote from: GarbageGoals33 on October 14, 2013, 05:02:19 PM
Tough crowd for sure Kickin.

Playing for BV makes you appreciate being on a winning team.  Going to BV makes you realize how miserable NW Iowa is.

The backline at GAC was solid every season I played there.  My individual statistics were a good representation of how good/organized our team was defensively at all positions.

Nate Dubois played for Loras?

Technically he played twice for the Good Guys  ;)
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on October 16, 2013, 06:51:29 PM
Just a heads up, Whitewater does not have a video stream. The list live stats, but if its anything like the women's game, it'll be non-existent.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 16, 2013, 07:56:37 PM
Speaking of the women's match WTH happened to the Lady DuHawks?  The are getting throttled 5-1.  Was the bus leaking Carbon monoxide?
How does a school not have at least an audio broadcast?  Things in Cheddar Land must be rough, UWO charges 8 bucks for a crappy video stream and UWW can't even afford a microphone!?!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on October 16, 2013, 08:06:59 PM
I'm with you there KICKIN. I'm curious to see the box score. I saw UWW play earlier this year in Fond du Lac, and while they were quick and strong on the ball, I didn't think they'd be anything more than what Loras saw against other opponents. Something must have drastically gone wrong.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on October 16, 2013, 08:12:05 PM
UWW put 10 of their 11 shots on target. That's impressive. Loras directed only 5/13 shots on target.

Very surprising defeat. Not quite sure what to think of it at this point. Nothing the squad can do now but stand up and get back to work.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 16, 2013, 09:15:18 PM
0-0 end of the first half.  Loras seemed to put together a nice run but just couldn't sneak one past the keeper.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 16, 2013, 09:53:42 PM
Loras finally finds the back of the net in the 67th minute, 1-0 DuHawks!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 16, 2013, 10:21:19 PM
That's the ballgame, Loras wins 1-0.  The "Live Stats" was brutal and the final end of period time said 88 minutes?  By the stats it seems Loras handled UWW pretty easily.  I say this from the Shots 19-13, SOG 6-2, and most importantly Corner Kicks 8-1.  The stats hit the Loras had the ball in the UWW half quite a bit more and the shots that weren't on goal were deflected for corners.  Most importantly the Hawk Cup stays in it's rightful place!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on October 16, 2013, 10:23:38 PM
I'd be interested to hear from anyone that was fortunate enough to have eyeballs on the game.

I long for the days when every school offers live video....
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 16, 2013, 10:56:28 PM
Quote from: Puerco Espin on October 16, 2013, 10:23:38 PM
I'd be interested to hear from anyone that was fortunate enough to have eyeballs on the game.

I long for the days when every school offers live video....
I 2nd that!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on October 19, 2013, 09:09:33 PM
Cavers with the free kick goal from 45 yards out. Went untouched and froze the Luther keeper.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on October 19, 2013, 09:38:23 PM
59 seconds into the 2nd half, loose ball in the box makes it 2-0 Loras.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on October 19, 2013, 09:59:52 PM
And another. 3-0 Loras. See ya Luther. Thanks for trying.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on October 19, 2013, 10:13:59 PM
First SOG for Luther comes in 81'.........Not usually a good sign.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 19, 2013, 11:42:07 PM
Glad I made it to the Loras v Luther match, Loras absolutely throttled the Norse!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on October 20, 2013, 12:11:59 AM
I had a feeling you might be there since we didn't hear from you during the game.

Duhawks should have an easy go of things with Coe next week and Central following that. If Luther defeats Wartburg on the last day of the conference season, could we see a repeat of 2010?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 20, 2013, 10:54:01 AM
The 3rd goal of the match from Fluegel was a outright Golazo!  He took a one time volley from a ball that came from no less than 25' in the air and bends it in to the side panel.  Would the DuHawks have 2 nationally recognized Fox Sports Moments this years?
The goal is at the 1:29:02 mark on the timeline.  http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/loras.portal#
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 21, 2013, 08:44:13 AM
UD gives up another late goal and falls to Wartburg 2-1.  That's 5 matches lost in either the last 5 minutes or OT.  The morale of that team has got to be on the edge, how many games can go take to the wire and lose before you just plain snap.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on October 21, 2013, 12:39:15 PM
Not only that, but they play for UD....that right there is enough to make many people snap.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on October 21, 2013, 02:30:24 PM
The fact that UD had Wartburg tied 1-1 until the last five minutes is concerning considering Loras went down on them 2-0. Just shows that Wartburg came to play against Loras that night and Loras did not.

Good to see that Loras but 3 against Luther though and didn't allow a SOG until 81' in. All three goals were decent starting with Cavers cross-shot. Hopefully Wartburg loses to Luther so there's a chance for the tourny to be at Loras but don't know if that will happen with that game being at Wartburg.

What are the rules to determine the tie-break btw?

Sheesh Puerco, talk about kicking a man when he's down!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on October 21, 2013, 05:15:39 PM
Take Witness: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71PljN16KVE
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on October 21, 2013, 05:18:45 PM
When its the other school in Dubuque, I'll kick whenever I see fit.

Heading back to 2010, when there was a three-way tie atop the league table, the IIAC determined conference tournament based on women's top seed, which that year was Loras. In terms of men's seeding, Wartburg had the #1 seed, Loras #2 and Scum had #3.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on October 23, 2013, 10:20:18 AM
Wartburg @ UWP tonight.

Any predictions on how this will go?

Also, last night UD was able to go up a goal just to give it back a minute later and then went away from their typical game plan of going up in a match and then losing it by scoring again in the 82 minute. North Central isn't a solid team but I guess at this point a win is a win for UD.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 23, 2013, 11:24:55 AM
The tourney location is determined by the alternating between regular season champion of men's one year and regular season champion of women's the next year
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on October 23, 2013, 11:48:33 AM
Wartburg should be able to handle UWP with ease. If its any closer than 3-nil, I'd be shocked.

KICKIN - I thought the conference did away with that setup for the tournament two years ago, going to the higher-seed host for all games.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 23, 2013, 11:51:42 AM
You might be right, I haven't really followed the criteria closely
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on October 23, 2013, 02:21:50 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure they did away with that 3 or 4 years ago.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on October 25, 2013, 11:59:07 AM
Does anyone know the record of IIAC vs MIAC this year? With Luther winning over MAC the thought came to mind.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 25, 2013, 01:43:52 PM
Quote from: Madhatter5 on October 25, 2013, 11:59:07 AM
Does anyone know the record of IIAC vs MIAC this year? With Luther winning over MAC the thought came to mind.
I have it as the IIAC holding a huge advantage at 14-6-2 against the once mighty MIAC!  Are the tides turning for the Northerners?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on October 25, 2013, 02:03:40 PM
Saints Johns certainly didn't help things out going 0-3 vs. IIAC opposition.

11 of the MIAC losses come from Bethel, MAC, SMU, SJU, Hamline, and Concordia.  Long story short, the IIAC pounded the MIAC bottom feeders + SJU (who is somehow in a position to make the MIAC playoffs).  Wartburg is the surprise team of the region this year.  They have been outplayed in numerous games and have found a way to get a result.  I would say that Wartburg is certainly helping the IIAC's case this season (as Luther did a few seasons ago).
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on October 25, 2013, 02:25:06 PM
Quote from: GarbageGoals33 on October 25, 2013, 02:03:40 PM
Long story short, the IIAC pounded the MIAC bottom feeders + SJU

Looks like a Saturday job for me to compare the loses and wins of the quality teams to see what the record of IIAC vs MIAC of those reaching the playoffs.

Either way, no need for the top North teams to play each other and hurt the chances of more north teams making the tourny.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on October 25, 2013, 04:35:44 PM
Wartburg went 6-0-2 vs. the MIAC this year which is impressive.  Wartburg were outshot in 5 of the 8 games and were outshot 116-103 in all games.  Wartburg outshot Hamline (+13), Saint Johns (+7), and Bethel (+8), which means they were outshot by 41 shots total in their other 5 games.  The opposition had 45 corners in 8 games in comparison to Wartburgs 27.  Wartburg outscored the MIAC opposition 15-5.  I guess you could say that Wartburg made the most of their opportunities while the MIAC teams squandered their chances.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: ldahoSoccer on October 25, 2013, 05:22:35 PM
Quote from: GarbageGoals33 on October 25, 2013, 04:35:44 PM
Wartburg went 6-0-2 vs. the MIAC this year which is impressive.  Wartburg were outshot in 5 of the 8 games and were outshot 116-103 in all games.  Wartburg outshot Hamline (+13), Saint Johns (+7), and Bethel (+8), which means they were outshot by 41 shots total in their other 5 games.  The opposition had 45 corners in 8 games in comparison to Wartburgs 27.  Wartburg outscored the MIAC opposition 15-5.  I guess you could say that Wartburg made the most of their opportunities while the MIAC teams squandered their chances.

I said this was going to be a down year for the MIAC at the beginning, and GG threw a fit about it. 
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on October 26, 2013, 10:00:28 AM
Down year in the MIAC = 3 teams in the NCAA regional rankings with a 4th team likely just outside of the top 7 in the region.

Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Wormburner on October 26, 2013, 04:29:22 PM
Anyone got a direct line to the feed for the Loras Match??  Duhawks.com is down right now...
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 26, 2013, 06:43:38 PM
Just witnessed the worst refed match in over 10 years.  The center actually boasted about how he normally only does D1 matches. He was not only inconsistent,  but waved off 3 textbook PK situations with 1 being a red card situation.  The other thing that happened in this match that I don't recall witnessing is Loras hitting the post or crossbar no less than 8 times.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on October 27, 2013, 02:18:46 AM
I'm sure they're glad to have Coe on Senior Day. Allows Rothert to flush his bench completely and even bring up some reserves players. I think it's safe to say that things would have been better with a larger difference in the scoresheet, but a win is a win.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 27, 2013, 08:54:42 AM
The 3-0 win isn't any big deal for a couple reasons.  The first is that a 3-0 win is a drubbing no matter who you beat, Loras outshot them 27-3 and had 10 SOG to Coe's 0!  The did ring the bar about 8 times and because it was senior day Rothert put in 19 subs.  It was great to see the parents' smiles as their kids took the on the main squad.  I didn't realize how many seniors there were that played on the Reserves, I think that's a testament to the Loras program as a whole if you have that many kids that stick around for 4 years and never see the pitch with the 1st team.  You must love either the program, the coaches, or both.  It doesn't hurt that the Reserves are literally better that many schools 1st teams.  I know that is a bold statement, but all you need to do is look at their results over the last 5 season ,59-2-10 against some decent teams.  Okay, back to the 2nd reason 3-0 isn't a big deal, 3 goals is the maximum amount of goals you can accumulate for goal differential in conference play criteria.  Now we just need to have Luther play spoiler to Wartburg and the DuHawks are in control with home field advantage for the Conference Tourney.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on October 27, 2013, 11:44:27 PM
Do we go as far to wear Luther blue on Tuesday night?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Wormburner on October 28, 2013, 07:42:03 AM
Quote from: Puerco Espin on October 27, 2013, 11:44:27 PM
Do we go as far to wear Luther blue on Tuesday night?

I bought a horned Viking helmet for the game!!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Ambush004 on October 28, 2013, 10:54:45 AM
Even if the Norse lose to Wartburg tomorrow, I can see Wartburgs luck running out in the IIAC tournament with an upset coming from Simpson, UD, or Luther.  I think Loras will host the IIAC finals. 
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on October 28, 2013, 11:57:56 AM
Quote from: Ambush004 on October 28, 2013, 10:54:45 AM
Even if the Norse lose to Wartburg tomorrow, I can see Wartburgs luck running out in the IIAC tournament with an upset coming from Simpson, UD, or Luther.  I think Loras will host the IIAC finals.

I thought the entire tournament was held at one location? Unless that is something they changed in the previous years as well.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 28, 2013, 01:48:45 PM
The winner of the regular season hosts the tourney.  That's whey we need Luther to play spoiler!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Ambush004 on October 28, 2013, 01:54:45 PM
Incorrect.  The higher seed of the individual game will host.


Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 28, 2013, 02:57:49 PM
  So the matches are played at the higher seeded teams pitch, basically if the winner of the regular season and the 2nd place finisher makes it to the final match they will have hosted the entire tournament on their respective home fields and then #1 will play #2 on #1's pitch.  The winner of the regular season if they make to the finals will have hosted the entire tournament.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on October 28, 2013, 05:31:19 PM
Quote from: KICKIN95 on October 28, 2013, 02:57:49 PM
  So the matches are played at the higher seeded teams pitch, basically if the winner of the regular season and the 2nd place finisher makes it to the final match they will have hosted the entire tournament on their respective home fields and then #1 will play #2 on #1's pitch.  The winner of the regular season if they make to the finals will have hosted the entire tournament.

This is correct. I believe this changed beginning with the 2011 season. That was the year that Luther won the conference. Loras hosted Central in the semis, and then traveled to Decorah for the conference tournament championship.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on October 28, 2013, 06:46:56 PM
So, you're saying there's a chance.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 29, 2013, 10:54:41 AM
So neither Coe v Loras (at Coe) or Luther v Wartburg (at Luther) is being streamed in video or audio and no live stats!?! WTH!  I am hoping that the feed is just not posted yet.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on October 29, 2013, 11:18:06 AM
Quote from: KICKIN95 on October 29, 2013, 10:54:41 AM
So neither Coe v Loras (at Coe) or Luther v Wartburg (at Luther) is being streamed in video or audio and no live stats!?! WTH!  I am hoping that the feed is just not posted yet.

You mean Central v Loras right?

I don't remember Central every having a stream. Course I usually don't watch that Loras vs Central games.

Surprised the Luther/Wartburg game is not being streamed seeing how it is at Wartburg and they have somewhat decent video stream...
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 29, 2013, 12:08:52 PM
Wow, I really butchered that one huh!  The Luther v Wartburg is at Wartburg and you are correct MH I meant Loras v Central.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on October 29, 2013, 02:47:06 PM
Loras vs Central is being streamed here: http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/central.portal#
Kickoff is at 2:30pm

Luther vs Wartburg is being streamed here: http://new.livestream.com/wartburgknightvision
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on October 29, 2013, 03:45:30 PM
Apparently Tripods are too expensive in Pella Iowa. Feel like I'm watching the Blair Witch Project....
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Ambush004 on October 29, 2013, 03:49:44 PM
Wartburg being ranked #9 by NSCAA is unbelievable.  Who is doing these rankings?  Get a clue.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 29, 2013, 04:42:45 PM
Quote from: Ambush004 on October 29, 2013, 03:49:44 PM
Wartburg being ranked #9 by NSCAA is unbelievable.  Who is doing these rankings?  Get a clue.
They are #9 because they are ranked #2 in the Region.  Loras is #15 because they are #3 in the region for this poll.  The #1 region teams are 1-8, #2 are normally 9-16, but they have Loras at #15 even thought this polls has them 3rd in the region. Not the poll that counts!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 29, 2013, 04:48:57 PM
Cavers rings the crossbar, damn!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 29, 2013, 04:56:07 PM
Loras finally cracks one in for a 2-1 lead
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on October 29, 2013, 05:26:57 PM
I've never heard so many last names butchered by a PA announcer. Honestly, he'd be better off just not saying anything.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 29, 2013, 05:34:53 PM
Well that was a tale of 2 halves. Loras dominated the 1st half and just laid an egg the 2nd.  They pull of the win 2-1 but it wasn't pretty. Stats were also dominated by Loras with a 25-9 advantage in shots and 9-5 S.O.G. so many near missing and a crossbar hit, but still only mustered 2 goals.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on October 29, 2013, 08:59:43 PM
At halftime, no score between Wartburg & Luther.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 29, 2013, 10:08:00 PM
Going to OT for Wartburg and Luther
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 29, 2013, 10:35:58 PM
Luther wins, giving Loras the title!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Wormburner on October 29, 2013, 10:39:03 PM
Now I can donate my horned helmet to the Met for their next performance of Die Walkure!!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 29, 2013, 10:46:00 PM
Technically its a 3 way tie with Loras getting the #1 seed on gisl differential.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Medicated Pete on October 29, 2013, 11:27:38 PM
 ;D #1 Norse fan right now.....sheeyeah! #LetzgoDuhawks
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on October 29, 2013, 11:42:50 PM
Wow.

Thank you Luther.

Wartburg, you had one job. Win and the title and home field advantage is yours. Psh.

In all honesty, something just doesn't seem right about playing conference championships anywhere besides the Rock Bowl.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 30, 2013, 10:42:46 AM
Congrats to the Loras seniors who have gone 26-3-1 over their 4 years in the IIAC and going for a 4th consecutive Tournament Championship while winning 3 out of 4 Regular Season Titles!  Also a shout out to the Lady DuHawk seniors who went 4 years without a loss in conference to post a 29-0-1 record and 4 consecutive Regular Season Championships and going for their 4th consecutive IIAC Tournament Championship!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on October 30, 2013, 11:01:03 AM
Quote from: KICKIN95 on October 30, 2013, 10:42:46 AM
Congrats to the Loras seniors who have gone 26-3-1 over their 4 years in the IIAC and going for a 4th consecutive Tournament Championship while winning 3 out of 4 Regular Season Titles!  Also a shout out to the Lady DuHawk seniors who went 4 years without a loss in conference to post a 29-0-1 record and 4 consecutive Regular Season Championships and going for their 4th consecutive IIAC Tournament Championship!

I was astonished about that Senior Lady Du's stat when I read it last night. That' more then impressive. That's better than the Loras Men's team during the Colombian era.

A job well done.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on October 30, 2013, 04:46:05 PM
In case anyone would like to join....DuhawkFutbol.com has put out a Bracket Challenge.

http://duhawkfutbol.com/bracket-challenge-mens-soccer-iiac
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 02, 2013, 04:19:38 PM
Simpson ends UD's season and will be traveling to meet the DuHawks at home for the Semi Finals.

Luther and Central are playing right now to see who moves on to visit Wartburg.  Had to turnoff the match because the vdeo feed was Buffering every 4 second.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: ldahoSoccer on November 02, 2013, 04:31:22 PM
Quote from: KICKIN95 on November 02, 2013, 04:19:38 PM
Simpson ends UD's season and will be traveling to meet the DuHawks at home for the Semi Finals.

Luther and Central are playing right now to see who moves on to visit Wartburg.  Had to turnoff the match because the vdeo feed was Buffering every 4 second.

UD put their fate in the Selection Committee's hands.  Hope it works out for them. 
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 02, 2013, 05:56:28 PM
Quote from: ldahoSoccer on November 02, 2013, 04:31:22 PM
Quote from: KICKIN95 on November 02, 2013, 04:19:38 PM
Simpson ends UD's season and will be traveling to meet the DuHawks at home for the Semi Finals.

Luther and Central are playing right now to see who moves on to visit Wartburg.  Had to turnoff the match because the vdeo feed was Buffering every 4 second.

UD put their fate in the Selection Committee's hands.  Hope it works out for them.
Sadly I don't think UD has any chance at a pool C selection.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 02, 2013, 06:00:19 PM
Luther v Central match was quite chippy towards the end.  Luther keeper saves not 1 but 2 PK's in the 2nd half to hold on for a 1-0 win.  Luther could have added a security goal with a PK of their own at the 88:30 mark, but hit it over the crossbar.  When is the last time teams were 0-3 on PK's in a match?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on November 03, 2013, 01:08:49 AM
Wow. Two PK saves?? Yikes. Wonder if it was a ref who was quick on the whistle or if the fouls were legit.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 03, 2013, 01:32:12 PM
They looked legit
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Durantula on November 03, 2013, 07:17:52 PM
Who is the most game changing forward in the IIAC?

midfielder?

Defender?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 03, 2013, 08:44:12 PM
Quote from: Durantula on November 03, 2013, 07:17:52 PM
Who is the most game changing forward in the IIAC?

midfielder?

Defender?
Forward would have to be either White from Simpson or Nadeau from Wartburg

Midfielder is The DuHawks Kevin Cavers without a doubt, he didn't have near as many goals as last season, but just his poise and presence on the pitch is enough to change any match.  You don't see his kind of vision and play making ability in DIII very often.

Defender is also The DuHawks Dan Figura, he is as calm and level headed a sweeper as you will find.  He can keep any offensive player contained and rarely makes mistakes.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Durantula on November 03, 2013, 11:42:22 PM
I agree with most of those-- however I was at the Wartburg/Loras game and it seemed like the Wartburg forwards caused Figura to make some key mistakes--much more than Bob Brown from Wartburg so I think Loras will have to beat Wartburg to make Figura the obvious pick. Also I think Luther has a pretty good outside back even though he's not in as important of a position...
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Cheesehead Henry on November 04, 2013, 10:07:39 PM
How about in terms of Goalkeepers?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 04, 2013, 10:17:22 PM
Milkent from Loras has the best GAA .55 and the least goals allowed 10, least saves 47, and most shutouts with 10.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Cheesehead Henry on November 04, 2013, 10:59:25 PM
While agree Milkent is a capable GK, I would argue against him as the top of the IACC. His stats reflect a strong back line that holds off a lot of attackers, and (as live feeds have shown me) he doesn't take his own goal kicks. Call me old fashioned but if Loras is a top 25 team, #4 last year I believe, their GK should be able to take his own goal kicks.

GKs from Luther have shown talent, however are way too inconsistent to show much, adding to the fact that they switch time which doen't let them gain any momentum or confidence. Wartburg's Shatzer has played extremely well and reliable. Simpson's GK has put together a great record on a team that continues to slowly teeter between average and good.

In summary I'd say the GK position in the IACC is the most up in the air.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on November 05, 2013, 08:51:19 AM
This sounds like the same discussion that was held last year regarding Milkent. I get it, the Loras marking backs do a great job at not allowing shots through, but at what point does the keeper get credit for doing what he does best?

In Conference Stat Lines
Shatzer / 7 GP / 640:44 / 4 GA / 28 Saves
Milkent / 7 GP / 559:02 / 4 GA / 14 Saves
Aronow / 4 GP / 346:34 / 2 GA / 10 Saves

Do I think Milkent is the best GK in the conference? No doubt. But more than likely, I feel it'll end up in Shatzer's hands.

Last year, Milkent was 1st Team All-Conference with this stat line:

6 GP / 495:00 / 0 GA / 9 Saves

9 Saves? Yowzahs!!!!!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 05, 2013, 10:34:51 AM
Quote from: Cheesehead Henry on November 04, 2013, 10:59:25 PM
While agree Milkent is a capable GK, I would argue against him as the top of the IACC. His stats reflect a strong back line that holds off a lot of attackers, and (as live feeds have shown me) he doesn't take his own goal kicks. Call me old fashioned but if Loras is a top 25 team, #4 last year I believe, their GK should be able to take his own goal kicks.

GKs from Luther have shown talent, however are way too inconsistent to show much, adding to the fact that they switch time which doen't let them gain any momentum or confidence. Wartburg's Shatzer has played extremely well and reliable. Simpson's GK has put together a great record on a team that continues to slowly teeter between average and good.

In summary I'd say the GK position in the IACC is the most up in the air.
Milkent is more than capable of taking his own goal kicks, the reason he doesn't is more a coaching and position decision.  Figura plays a true sweeper position and Loras is never worried about an offsides trap so why not have your sweeper take the kick.  It doesn't hurt that Figura can bomb the ball, but that isn't the deciding factor in the equation.  Oh, and Loras finished as the #2 team last season even though they didn't make the final match, that's how close Loras and Messiah played their match and how absolutely horrid Ohio Northern was in the Championship match.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Ambush004 on November 05, 2013, 10:54:12 AM
Shatzer would be the 3rd string keeper at Loras without question. 
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on November 05, 2013, 11:03:21 AM
Ruling a goalie out of a top spot because he doesn't take goal kicks is a ridiculous statement. What does the ability of kicking a ball as hard and far as you can show when talking talent? Or strategy?

Whenever talking about goalies I always bring up the fact that you don't need or want a goalie who can make a lot of saves you need/want a goalie who can make a few great saves a game when it is needed and when the offense breaks down the defense. Shatzer and Milkent have the same amount of GA. Shatzer has more saves but how many of those were big time saves and how many of those were dribblers that a 3 year old could have saved? The stats don't tell you that. You have to go by GP and GA to separate goalies and if they are tied in that categry then you should look at Multi-goal games. In which case Shatzer has 0 and Milkent has 1 so I think it falls to Shatzer as the top goalie during league play.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Cheesehead Henry on November 05, 2013, 01:05:04 PM
Quote from: Ambush004 on November 05, 2013, 10:54:12 AM
Shatzer would be the 3rd string keeper at Loras without question.

How so? I respect Milkent enough to say that if Shatzer was at Loras, it would definitely be enough of a battle for those two to contend for the starting spot. But to say Shatzer would be 3rd string "without question" is a little far fetched. If the NCAA website is correct, Wartburg got as high as 9th in the nation this year under Shatzer. They had 11 straight wins in a schedule that has a strength unmatched by most in the nation. The starter at Wartburg going to "3rd string at Loras without a question" seems like a bit of an exaggeration.

Just my thoughts.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Cheesehead Henry on November 05, 2013, 01:10:36 PM
Also, I was not able to see much of the Simpson/Loras game, or the Luther/Loras game at the Rock Bowl. Obviously both games were pure domination for Loras, but how did the GKs perform for Simpson and Luther? 3 goals for Loras in both games is impressive. Did the GKs show talent worth looking into? From previous posts it looks like you guys have taken some interest in the Shatzer Milkent debate but neglected the others. Do they possess talent worth debating?

-Henry
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on November 05, 2013, 01:40:40 PM
Wartburg's schedule was pretty tough...but it only ranks 5th overall in the North Region by the NCAA regional ranking criteria.

In general, its very tough for GK's who faces so few shots to get the nod when it comes to end of season honors. Its one of the pitfalls when playing for a team with such a strong backline.

We saw this at GAC 2 years in a row, 03 and 04. We had 2 keepers who split time through the regular season, finished were 1 & 2 in the nation in GAA, and neither got much in the way of post season awards, despite being very deserving.

I do find it a bit odd that Milkent doesn't take his own goal kicks, I noticed this at Wheaton. But ultimately, the GK's job is to keep the ball out of the back of the next. Taking goal kicks is not something most would consider when evaluation a GK... 
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on November 06, 2013, 09:30:18 AM
Predictions for tonight?

Loras 4 - Simpson 0
Luther 2 - Wartburg 1
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on November 06, 2013, 10:15:49 AM
Loras 3 - Simpson 0
Luther 2 - Wartburg 3 (2OT)
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 06, 2013, 10:33:07 AM
Loras 3-0 Simpson

Wartburg 3-1 Luther,  I don't think the DuHawk faithful are giving Wartburg enough respect.  Keep your eyes on their forwards they are speedy and their mids like to creep when you turn your head. 

When Loras meets Wartburg in the finals it will be a good match.  Loras has to play their match and remember how they didn't give enough respect to Wartburg the first time around. Let that stew in the DuHawks minds and I think the mission will be clear.  Take the match by the balls and play how only Loras knows how.  The Rock Bowl is the Sacred Acre and defeat is not an option!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: PaulNewman on November 06, 2013, 11:55:15 AM
Love you Loras guys.  Actually now a Loras fan which makes no sense at all.

Quote of the year -- "Take a bow Tommy."
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on November 06, 2013, 12:54:49 PM
Quote from: KICKIN95 on November 06, 2013, 10:33:07 AM
Wartburg 3-1 Luther,  I don't think the DuHawk faithful are giving Wartburg enough respect.  Keep your eyes on their forwards they are speedy and their mids like to creep when you turn your head. 

Even though I am choosing Wartburg to win, it is hard to pick them considering they just got beat by Luther at home 1-0 in OT a week ago. But it is difficult to beat some teams twice. Also, you have to look at their outcomes against some of the bottom dwellers of the IIAC. 2-1 against UD, 2-0 against BV, 2-1 against Simpson. Not the kinda of offensive onslaught that one would like to see from their forwards. 
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Cheesehead Henry on November 06, 2013, 04:28:50 PM
I think one of the main differences in tonight's game between Luther and Wartburg will be the welcoming back of Nadeau for Wartburg after his game out from 5 yellows. Nadeau creates a lot in the attacking third for Wartburg which they missed last Tuesday. I'm calling a Wartburg 1-0 win.

As for Loras and Simpson, I think Simpson is going to find a way to shut down Loras' attack for the first half, but the duhawks will be too much for them. Assuming Simpson's attack hasn't changed since the last time they played at the rock bowl, they won't get near the goal. 2-0 Loras.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 06, 2013, 09:58:10 PM
The Duhawks ring the crossbar for the 3rd time in the match.  Still leading 1-0. Simpson has had1 chance worth mentioning and that was when Millkent went down.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 06, 2013, 10:24:55 PM
Wartburg wins on double OT in a closely fought battle.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 06, 2013, 10:28:58 PM
Well it's the match up everyone was predicting.  Loras v Wartburg.  These 2 teams will be in for sure. I am predicting a Loras victory 2-0.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on November 06, 2013, 11:07:20 PM
Milkent ended up with a golf-ball sized lump on his cheek from the punch he received in that pile up.

Was a closer game than I would've hoped for, but at this time of year, all you need is to be in the lead when the clock strikes zero.

Looking forward to Saturday's rematch.

Prediction....Loras 2 - Wartburg 1
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 07, 2013, 08:54:22 AM
I was streaming Loras v Simpson on the TV and Wartburg v Simpson on the computer, but I looked away from the computer for about 10 seconds in the double OT and didn't get a chance to see the foul that led to the PK and to Luther's exit from the tourney. Anyone have eyes on that one, thoughts and comments.  I did see a foul by Luther in the box about 4 minutes prior to the PK foul and the ref made a no call and I think it was a legit PK foul itself.  Maybe the ref didn't want to end such a tight match like that, but obviously a 2nd foul was committed and could be ignored.  That match was as evenly battled as I have seen in some time, both sides were attacking and disrupting each other all night. 

Loras v Wartburg will be a battle, but in the end the Duhawks will reign supreme for 3 reasons. #1- the match is at the Rock Bowl and Loras just doesn't lose at the Rock Bowl, it's the home turf and will be defended to the death (or close to death) These seniors hold a 43-3-2 record at home and will be making that 44 come saturday. #2- and the most important reason, Loras is pissed that they have that one glaring zit and are on the warpath to avenge it!  Oh and #3 they're going to score more goals than Wartburg, 2 to be exact, making it a 2-0 victory.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: knighthawk on November 07, 2013, 10:07:59 AM
Here's video of the foul. It was pretty weak. I think it was only called because of the missed call a few minutes before.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfuep52zvIM
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Thunder1 on November 07, 2013, 10:43:43 AM
Quote from: KICKIN95 on November 07, 2013, 08:54:22 AM
I was streaming Loras v Simpson on the TV and Wartburg v Simpson on the computer, but I looked away from the computer for about 10 seconds in the double OT and didn't get a chance to see the foul that led to the PK and to Luther's exit from the tourney. Anyone have eyes on that one, thoughts and comments.  I did see a foul by Luther in the box about 4 minutes prior to the PK foul and the ref made a no call and I think it was a legit PK foul itself.  Maybe the ref didn't want to end such a tight match like that, but obviously a 2nd foul was committed and could be ignored.  That match was as evenly battled as I have seen in some time, both sides were attacking and disrupting each other all night. 

Loras v Wartburg will be a battle, but in the end the Duhawks will reign supreme for 3 reasons. #1- the match is at the Rock Bowl and Loras just doesn't lose at the Rock Bowl, it's the home turf and will be defended to the death (or close to death) These seniors hold a 43-3-2 record at home and will be making that 44 come saturday. #2- and the most important reason, Loras is pissed that they have that one glaring zit and are on the warpath to avenge it!  Oh and #3 they're going to score more goals than Wartburg, 2 to be exact, making it a 2-0 victory.

I have no connection to either team in the Wartburg vs Loras game and I have to say that is one of the worst calls I've ever seen to end a game.  Especially a game of that magnitude towards the end of the second overtime.  You only make that call if it is an obvious scoring opportunity right in front of the goal.  The "foul" was on the 18 on a free kick in a pile of players waiting for a ball that had been headed out.  The kid that went down wasn't even close to the ball.  Brutal call.  Let the players determine the outcome of the game.  If I was Luther I would be livid.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Cheesehead Henry on November 07, 2013, 11:36:28 AM
Definitely in that gray area when it comes to when, or when not, to blow the whistle in the box that late it the game. I was able to catch the last 15 minutes or so of the game, and the two OTs, and it seemed like Nadeau and the Luther defense were exchanging some harsh fouls and words throughout that time period. Whatever that ref saw in that PK call, it must have been an accumulation of all the others that started to add up.

KICKIN, on that previous foul in the box it looks like Nadeau might have gotten an elbow or shoulder to his face, and that was a no-call. Perhaps the ref was just trying to make up for it.

-Henry
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 07, 2013, 02:48:49 PM
WOW!! Just watched the replay of that PK call and it was WEAK!.  Most definitely a make up for the foul I saw a bit earlier that I thought was a legit PK foul.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Cheesehead Henry on November 08, 2013, 05:02:34 PM
So I heard that there was a little brawl between Simpson and Loras. What actually happened?

-Henry
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 08, 2013, 09:53:21 PM
Quote from: Cheesehead Henry on November 08, 2013, 05:02:34 PM
So I heard that there was a little brawl between Simpson and Loras. What actually happened?

-Henry
I watched the end of the match again and the exchanges between players actually looked friendlier than normal.  Not sure where you heard this, but I personally haven't heard anything about such goings on.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on November 09, 2013, 03:54:17 PM
There was no brawl. There were two yellow cards handed out for collisions for the keeper, one to each team. The Loras GK was taken out on a play after the two yellow cards, received a pretty nice shiner on his cheek.

Overall, wouldn't say it was much different from other games.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: ldahoSoccer on November 09, 2013, 10:40:32 PM
See ya Wartburg.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 09, 2013, 10:48:19 PM
Loras v Wartburg was a great match.  Loras definitely had the majority of chances, but couldn't seem to crack the goal line ( except for the phantom foul that called back a goal for Loras).  Loras doubled them in shots and had a hefty margin in corners, all in all a great battle.  Now we will have to wait and see if Loras will be hosting the 1st round.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: casualfan on November 10, 2013, 12:33:18 AM
I'm sure there will be a NCAA Regional at the Rock Bowl. The Duhawks have a very strong record and are ranked highly. When's the last time that Loras was in the NCAA Tournament and didn't host the first and second rounds?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Wormburner on November 10, 2013, 05:09:22 AM
Quote from: casualfan on November 10, 2013, 12:33:18 AM
I'm sure there will be a NCAA Regional at the Rock Bowl. The Duhawks have a very strong record and are ranked highly. When's the last time that Loras was in the NCAA Tournament and didn't host the first and second rounds?

2006
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 10, 2013, 09:29:55 PM
Looks like the IIAC will have s very good chance of 3 teams making the big dance.  Luther's high SOS should put the in.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KnightRider23 on November 10, 2013, 09:37:08 PM
Any chance of a Loras first round bye?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: OWUSoccer on November 10, 2013, 09:52:39 PM
Quote from: KnightRider23 on November 10, 2013, 09:37:08 PM
Any chance of a Loras first round bye?

Looking at the 8 top-ranked regional teams, I'd guess they just miss out but it might depend on where they put everyone in the bracket.

Wheaton's not getting one, Trinity shouldn't (two losses) and I'd have to think that Stevens' ridiculously low SOS will hold them back.  That leaves Amherst, Messiah, Rutgers-Camden, OWU and Loras.  Given the committee's penchant for matching up the Mid-Atlantic and South Atlantic, I think Rutgers-Camden gets one and Messiah does not.  Does Loras deserve a bye over OWU or Amherst?  Hard to justify it since both of those teams are unbeaten and can match Loras' impressive ranked-games record.

Having said that, we know $$$ (or a desire to not spend any) often sets up the bracket itself and the choice of who gets a bye, so who knows.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Thunder1 on November 10, 2013, 10:55:43 PM
Interesting analysis by d3soccer.com. They have 6 teams in from North Region.

http://www.d3soccer.com/columns/around-the-nation/2013/at-large-analysis-and-predictions

I think Luther will get in as well.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on November 10, 2013, 11:27:14 PM
Loras' SOS (.608) is higher than Amherst (.588), Messiah (.587), Rutgers-Camden (.582), and OWU (.590).

Not to say that should be the only deciding factor, but could serve as a "tie-breaker".

Here are some possible pairings that I think we could see:

@ Loras
1. Loras
2. Gustavus
3. Lake Forest
4. Carthage

@ Wheaton
1. Wheaton
2. Dominican
3. Hope
4. North Park

@ UW-Oshkosh
1. UW-Oshkosh
2. Luther
3. Carleton
4. St. Scholastica

Just my crack at it. Obviously its all a shot in the dark.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Thunder1 on November 10, 2013, 11:35:18 PM
I like your pairings. I would switch Luther with North Park. Wheaton has played north Park twice in the last week. That move would also keep teams from the same conference in different quarters of the bracket.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 10, 2013, 11:36:14 PM
Quote from: Puerco Espin on November 10, 2013, 11:27:14 PM
Loras' SOS (.608) is higher than Amherst (.588), Messiah (.587), Rutgers-Camden (.582), and OWU (.590).

Not to say that should be the only deciding factor, but could serve as a "tie-breaker".

Here are some possible pairings that I think we could see:

@ Loras
1. Loras
2. Gustavus
3. Lake Forest
4. Carthage

@ Wheaton
1. Wheaton
2. Dominican
3. Hope
4. North Park

@ UW-Oshkosh
1. UW-Oshkosh
2. Luther
3. Carleton
4. St. Scholastica

Just my crack at it. Obviously its all a shot in the dark.
You think Wartburg will either ve traveling out of the area or not in at all?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on November 10, 2013, 11:39:27 PM
Woops. Forgot about Wartburg. How could I have done that? ;)

Maybe swap North Park for Wartburg?

Then send North Park somewhere else...

Or, we could see both Dominican and Wheaton hosting, sending North Park to Dominican.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on November 11, 2013, 06:55:12 AM
It's all about what will make financial sense. Last year both MIAC teams in the NCAA's played in the same grouping at CarlEton. So I don't think that will necessarily keep the committee from pairing teams in the same conference.

Looking forward to our first look at the brackets today.

Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 11, 2013, 08:51:20 AM
I sure hope they don't put Wartburg and Loras together, I guess the same should be said about Carleton and GAC.  I know that committee has to keep fiscally responsible. but all these teams have earned the right to play against worthy opponents from other regions.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on November 11, 2013, 10:48:57 AM
If Luther gets in you may see them paired up with Loras (not playing each other in the first round). 

Loras
CarlEton or GAC
Luther
CSS or Lake Forest?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on November 11, 2013, 11:28:02 AM
GG, I like that prediction.

Any chance of GAC or Carleton hosting? If so, might see CSS go that way.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on November 11, 2013, 11:58:46 AM
If GAC would've won the conference tournament they may have hosted.  I can't see them hosting at this point.  I see both GAC and CarlEton going to Dubuque or Oshkosh.  I can't imagine they will be traveling to the same spot.

It would be great to see St. Olaf sneak in and play at CarlEton.  They have had some good banter on the MIAC thread.

CarlEton
Wartburg
St. Olaf
North Park

That would be a pretty competitive group.  No clear cut favorite.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KnightRider23 on November 11, 2013, 12:09:37 PM
GG, don't you think if Olaf gets in then they face a higher ranked team a la Loras/Oshkosh or Wheaton? I still think Loras deserves the bye, and with so many teams out east, it might be logistically easier to give Loras a first round bye. While that Ole/Carleton game would be good, it'd be a big shame to have MIAC (or any other same conference matchup) in the first round.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on November 11, 2013, 12:15:51 PM
I don't think any conference teams will play each other in the first round.  I don't think St. Olaf will make the tournament either, their loss to Luther earlier in the season will probably seal their fate.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 11, 2013, 12:34:30 PM
Big shout out to Coach Rothert in getting his 500th career victory at the helm the DuHawks!  In just 15 years he has amassed a 500-167-41 records for an impressive .736 winning percentage!  Here's to 500 more Coach!
Mens' record: 253-85-21
Women's record 247-82-20
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on November 11, 2013, 12:55:36 PM
I think with UD's SOS they have a chance of sneaking in as well.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 11, 2013, 01:08:42 PM
Quote from: Madhatter5 on November 11, 2013, 12:55:36 PM
I think with UD's SOS they have a chance of sneaking in as well.
UD isn't even on that Radar.  They have too many losses, weren't regionally ranked, and didn't show up in the IIAC tourney.  They SOS dropped to 41st in the country so even that couldn't save them.  Loras, Wartburg, and Luther are all in the top 25 for SOS.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on November 11, 2013, 01:13:04 PM
First Round Bye for the Du's.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on November 11, 2013, 01:18:44 PM
Quote from: Puerco Espin on November 11, 2013, 01:13:04 PM
First Round Bye for the Du's.
And Wartburg is hosting. Was a bit more surprised at that then the Bye for Loras.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 11, 2013, 01:29:11 PM
I am a bit shocked that Loras isn't hosting, the facilities at the RockBowl are more accommodating than Wartburg as far as proximity of concessions, the amount of seating, the multiple press boxes, and the large hospitality suite.  The availability of lodging and closeness of locker rooms is much better as well.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on November 11, 2013, 01:31:06 PM
Quote from: KICKIN95 on November 11, 2013, 01:29:11 PM
I am a bit shocked that Loras isn't hosting, the facilities at the RockBowl are more accommodating than Wartburg as far as proximity of concessions, the amount of seating, the multiple press boxes, and the large hospitality suite.  The availability of lodging and closeness of locker rooms is much better as well.

Loras is hosting the second round though?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on November 11, 2013, 01:35:12 PM
Loras is hosting the winner of Lake Forest vs. Luther. They just aren't hosting a 4 team pairing.

Assuming Loras wins the 2nd round match up, likely they would host the sweet 16/elite 8 rounds Nov. 22-24.

Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 11, 2013, 01:35:50 PM
I just noticed that Hatter, wonder why they wouldn't just have the first round a Loras as well?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 11, 2013, 01:37:41 PM
If things go right it looks as if Loras and GAC could be meeting in the Sweet 16.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on November 11, 2013, 01:40:48 PM
Quote from: KICKIN95 on November 11, 2013, 01:37:41 PM
If things go right it looks as if Loras and GAC could be meeting in the Sweet 16.

Unfortunately I can't make it up to St. Peter this weekend for GAC/CSS/Westmin/CarlE matches.

However, if GAC advances out of that group, I will absolutely be making the trip to Dubuque (assuming Loras hosts) for the Sweet 16 match ups...

The Wartburg Quad looks pretty decent. UWO has to be the favorite to come out of that group, but not by much. I could see anyone of those 4 teams getting thru to the Sweet 16.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Cheesehead Henry on November 11, 2013, 01:51:21 PM
Interesting that Wartburg is hosting. Definitely aids them as their preferred playing surface is obviously grass. I could see them getting through to the sweet 16 since Oshkosh is about as bad as Loras in terms of quality of play dropping on grass compared to turf.

Then again, Dominican and Hope are both teams that have quality records, albeit questionable strength of schedule.

Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on November 11, 2013, 01:55:43 PM
I think Dominican is the sleeper in this group. While they have had a down year by their typical standards, I think they are still a good side. Their match up with Wartbug should be a heck of a game.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 11, 2013, 01:56:50 PM
Looks like Puget Sound and Cal Lutheran have the long distance road trip of the tourney, heading all the way to Trinity!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on November 11, 2013, 01:57:03 PM
Quote from: Cheesehead Henry on November 11, 2013, 01:51:21 PM
Interesting that Wartburg is hosting. Definitely aids them as their preferred playing surface is obviously grass. I could see them getting through to the sweet 16 since Oshkosh is about as bad as Loras in terms of quality of play dropping on grass compared to turf.

Then again, Dominican and Hope are both teams that have quality records, albeit questionable strength of schedule.

I would agree that Wartburg hosting aids them but Dominican is pretty good on grass as well and tend to step up a notch come NCAA tournament time and playing away.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on November 11, 2013, 01:57:27 PM
Anyone got a site with a bracket yet?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 11, 2013, 01:58:38 PM
Quote from: Madhatter5 on November 11, 2013, 01:57:27 PM
Anyone got a site with a bracket yet?
http://i.turner.ncaa.com/dr/ncaa/ncaa7/release/sites/default/files/images/2013/11/11/diii-mens-soccer-2013.pdf
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on November 11, 2013, 02:02:53 PM
Quote from: KICKIN95 on November 11, 2013, 01:58:38 PM
Quote from: Madhatter5 on November 11, 2013, 01:57:27 PM
Anyone got a site with a bracket yet?
http://i.turner.ncaa.com/dr/ncaa/ncaa7/release/sites/default/files/images/2013/11/11/diii-mens-soccer-2013.pdf
Awesome Thanks
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Ambush004 on November 11, 2013, 03:54:08 PM
Toyota Park in San Antonio is one hell of a stadium to play in.  Please google if you havent seen it before.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on November 11, 2013, 04:38:12 PM
Nothing against the Blossom Soccer Complex, but Toyota Park is an actual soccer stadium. Very excited for the student-athletes who will play there this year.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on November 11, 2013, 10:39:28 PM
DuhawkFutbol put together a bracket for the Men's Tournament...Join if you'd like.

http://challonge.com/ncaaD3men
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Christan Shirk on November 12, 2013, 08:08:46 AM
Quote from: Puerco Espin on November 11, 2013, 10:39:28 PM
DuhawkFutbol put together a bracket for the Men's Tournament...Join if you'd like.

http://challonge.com/ncaaD3men

If the intent is for this to be open to anybody and everybody, maybe post this over in the 2013 Bracket Challenge (http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=8077.0) thread.  If it's meant more just for Duhawk, IIAC and North Region friends and fans, then nevermind. 

What's the deadline to enter?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on November 12, 2013, 08:59:51 AM
Deadline is noon on Nov. 14. I'll post the link over in that thread as well.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Cheesehead Henry on November 13, 2013, 09:46:48 PM
I'm feeling a Loras loss in the second round for an early departure. I think that right now they haven't been playing their best soccer.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 13, 2013, 10:29:53 PM
ummm, no
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on November 13, 2013, 10:45:16 PM
Quote from: Puerco Espin on November 11, 2013, 10:39:28 PM
DuhawkFutbol put together a bracket for the Men's Tournament...Join if you'd like.

http://challonge.com/ncaaD3men


Thank you, Duhawk!   Much appreciated.   Good luck in the brackets and more importantly, good luck to your Duhawks....

Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on November 14, 2013, 03:10:54 AM
Hey Cheesehead, lay off the Gorgonzola. The stench is having an adverse affect on your brain neurons.

They haven't been playing their best soccer? Since their 2-1 loss to Wartburg, the Duhawks have gone 8-0, outscoring their opponents 21-2. Two of those eight victories have against Luther and Wartburg, who are both in this year's tournament.

The only logical reasoning behind your statement must stem from the fact that they went through the IIAC Tournament only scoring two goals. Sure, everyone always wants more goals to be scored...but at this time of the year, an 8-0 victory is the exact same as a 1-0 victory.

Will their second round victory be a 1-0 or 5-0 win? Who knows. But quite frankly, who cares?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: PaulNewman on November 14, 2013, 10:27:06 AM
Loras is my pick to win the whole thing.  Like their draw a lot.  OWU, despite the overall strength of that quadrant, appears to have pretty clear sailing up to an elite 8 game.  Don't see a major contender emerging from the Amherst quadrant.  The survivor of the Rutgers-C, Stevens, York group could be a problem.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on November 14, 2013, 10:55:58 AM
Are you Rothert in disguise?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: PaulNewman on November 14, 2013, 11:11:19 AM
Haha.  I would love to play along but don't even know what the word 'Rothert' means!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Durantula on November 14, 2013, 11:11:37 AM
When do the postseason awards come out... before or after the tourney? any predictions?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: PaulNewman on November 14, 2013, 11:12:18 AM
"Tommy, take a bow!"
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on November 14, 2013, 01:37:08 PM
Quote from: Puerco Espin on November 14, 2013, 03:10:54 AM
They haven't been playing their best soccer? Since their 2-1 loss to Wartburg, the Duhawks have gone 8-0, outscoring their opponents 21-2. Two of those eight victories have against Luther and Wartburg, who are both in this year's tournament.

The only logical reasoning behind your statement must stem from the fact that they went through the IIAC Tournament only scoring two goals. Sure, everyone always wants more goals to be scored...but at this time of the year, an 8-0 victory is the exact same as a 1-0 victory.

Will their second round victory be a 1-0 or 5-0 win? Who knows. But quite frankly, who cares?

Agreed. IF we go along with Cheesehead does that mean Messiah will be out in the first and second round since the last game they played they lost???
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on November 14, 2013, 02:01:54 PM
Luther and Lake Forest about to kick off.

http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/lfc.portal#
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on November 14, 2013, 02:59:38 PM
Just checked the Live Stats. Luther is up 1-0 at halftime.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on November 14, 2013, 03:14:55 PM
Quote from: gustiefan04 on November 14, 2013, 02:59:38 PM
Just checked the Live Stats. Luther is up 1-0 at halftime.

Make that 2-0 Luther, off an early 2nd half goal.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Ryan Harmanis on November 14, 2013, 03:29:38 PM
Luther 3-0 on a quality individual effort.  Looks like the goal came from Hunker, cut inside from the right and bent one in the top shelf with his left.  Luther is rolling.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 14, 2013, 04:41:50 PM
Quote from: GarbageGoals33 on November 14, 2013, 10:55:58 AM
Are you Rothert in disguise?
I wouldn't expect anything less if it was Coach Rothert.  If you don't have the mindset that you are going to win it all you shouldn't even show up to the match.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: duhawk on November 15, 2013, 10:13:40 AM
Can someone confirm the Loras/Luther match time?  Loras' website says 1pm but so does the bracket and it has all times listed as Eastern.  Anyway I'm going and I'd like to make sure I know when it starts. Thanks.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on November 15, 2013, 10:46:26 AM
Quote from: duhawk on November 15, 2013, 10:13:40 AM
Can someone confirm the Loras/Luther match time?  Loras' website says 1pm but so does the bracket and it has all times listed as Eastern.  Anyway I'm going and I'd like to make sure I know when it starts. Thanks.
It's at 1 pm Central time.

Bring your rain coat and umbrella. 95% chance of rain...
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Cheesehead Henry on November 15, 2013, 02:17:19 PM
prediction for Luther/Loras game? Wartburg/Dominican? I think Luther's story has seen its final page. Loras 2-0. Wartburg over Dominican in kicks.

Whatcha guys think? 
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on November 15, 2013, 02:24:12 PM
With the weather forecast I think it will be difficult for players to score. Loras 1-0.

Wartburg over Dom in a 1-0 2 OT game.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on November 15, 2013, 02:34:09 PM

Loras 2, Luther 1

Wartburg 1, Dominican 0.

Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Ambush004 on November 15, 2013, 03:23:31 PM
Loras vs Luther >>>> Loras 2-0

Wartburg vs Dominican >>> Dominican 3-2 (OT)

----- Even though Dominican hasn't had a great year I believe experience in the NCAA's will show.  I'm excited about this match as i don't believe these two teams have ever met in the last 4 years. 
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 15, 2013, 07:10:34 PM
Wow, double red cards for Wartburg and Dominican, didn't see who, but either way it hurts whomever advances!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 15, 2013, 07:45:23 PM
Wartburg is pounding Dominican 3-0!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on November 15, 2013, 08:08:47 PM
Wowza! I didn't see that coming. Big ups to the Warts!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on November 15, 2013, 08:32:09 PM
Anyone else having issues with the UWO v Hope live feed, or is it just me? 

Welp, nevermind.... Good to go.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on November 15, 2013, 09:52:08 PM
Hope is going to ride restarts and the throw into the FINAL FOUR!   
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Durantula on November 15, 2013, 09:58:05 PM
ridiculous how long of a throw in that kid has. it will be hard for wartburg to defend that without their tall forward dan nadeau who I've heard has mono.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on November 15, 2013, 10:01:11 PM

Better have men on both posts at all times haha.   
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Durantula on November 15, 2013, 10:10:01 PM
how many assists does that guy have!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 15, 2013, 10:18:38 PM
Quote from: Durantula on November 15, 2013, 10:10:01 PM
how many assists does that guy have!
Believe it or not according to their home page stats he only had 1 assist before tonights match.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Durantula on November 15, 2013, 10:22:50 PM
seeing this game that seems unbelievable to me haha. are they not giving him assists of throwins???
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Dutch Touch on November 15, 2013, 11:09:20 PM
I don't know where you were looking, but according to Hope's athletic page he has 8 assists on the year. He has definitely racked up his fair share of assists over his 4 years.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Cheesehead Henry on November 16, 2013, 12:05:17 AM
It will be interesting to see Wartburg's matchup with Hope considering their confidence has to be after their throttling of Dominican tonight. Given the fact that Hope also has a lot of confidence from beating an Oshkosh team that was favored to win that game and even the quad itself. Look for Hope to take advantage of the plethora of throw ins they'll undoubtedly take advantage of.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 16, 2013, 09:18:39 AM
Quote from: Dutch Touch on November 15, 2013, 11:09:20 PM
I don't know where you were looking, but according to Hope's athletic page he has 8 assists on the year. He has definitely racked up his fair share of assists over his 4 years.
I was looking at Logan Sikkenga's assists instead of Grant Neil's, my bad.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: PaulNewman on November 16, 2013, 09:22:56 AM
Can one of you IIAC guys explain why so many strong teams out of Iowa?  Seriously, is soccer really big in Iowa?  Until a few weeks ago I thought Loras was the only show in town, but obviously Wartburg and Luther are really good as well.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: PaulNewman on November 16, 2013, 10:07:15 AM
Luther has 38 rostered players, Wartburg has 44-45, and Loras 28 plus a whopping 36 on the reserve squad (64 total!).  How do they keep so many involved when they aren't playing?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on November 16, 2013, 10:59:59 AM
The IIAC (and MIAC) play a full reserve/JV schedule. Allows the programs to keep players and help them develop. You'd be surprised by the number of players who start with the reserves and work their way into Varsity roles as their careers progress. 

There is a good amount of quality youth soccer around the Des Moines area. Also the IIAC schools draw pretty heavily from the Chicagoland, which is one of the largest (and strongest) youth soccer markets in the country.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Durantula on November 16, 2013, 11:12:21 AM
There's a lot of talent because Iowa has only one D1 school (Drake), and I don't think Minnesota has any?? so a lot of the good iowa and minnesota kids want to stay somewhat close to home and go d3
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Cheesehead Henry on November 16, 2013, 02:47:34 PM
You have to remember that Iowa is the center of huge soccer hot spots in the Midwest. They're surrounded by St. Louis to the south, Kansas City to the west, the Twin Cities to the north, and Milwaukee and Chicago to the East. Get solid traditions of excellence at schools like Loras, Luther, and Wartburg, it makes recruiting those kids pretty easy. Not to mention Des Moines and the Cedar Valley Area in Iowa itself.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 16, 2013, 06:27:59 PM
Hope seems to be feeding off of yesterdays win against UWO, they are getting the better of Wartburg. I have a feeling that will change shortly.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 16, 2013, 06:51:14 PM
Drake is the only DI varsity program in Iowa. Loras last played them in preseason in 2011 and beat them 4-3. Loras also played Drake in 2010 when Drake was ranked 14th in the nation and Drake squeaked out a 1-0 victory over the 7th ranked Duhawks. I think that is a testament to how good DIII teams really are in relation to DI.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on November 16, 2013, 07:18:49 PM

I know Messiah used to play D1 schools in spring often and get positive results.  Maybe even Maryland recently, just can't confirm/remember...

The top 5-10 historically good D3 programs can run with the top 10-25 in D1... after that, the drop-off is too significant.



Anyways, this Hope game is a throw in away from a 1-0 win...
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on November 16, 2013, 07:31:44 PM

And the mistake by the GK proves to be costly there...  Great finish by Wartburg
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 16, 2013, 07:33:25 PM
Hope's keeper made a a very stupid choice by rolling the 4 Ball 25 yds out and paid dearly. Wartburg blasts a goal to go up 1-0.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 16, 2013, 07:35:49 PM
There's your prediction! 1-1
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 16, 2013, 07:51:05 PM
OT
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 16, 2013, 08:03:36 PM
Wartburg wins in iT on an absolute bomb from about 35 yds!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 17, 2013, 08:57:48 AM
AccuWeather you are wrong more than right so you better not be right today. Thunderstorm bookended with heavy downpours set for kickoff of Loras v Luther.  >:(
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: PaulNewman on November 17, 2013, 09:53:34 AM
Tornado alert throughout Ohio Valley.  Multiple games could be heavily impacted.  Advantage for the underdogs?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 17, 2013, 10:48:35 AM
wet slippery fields have a way of slowing down them fast teams and make things interesting with unpredictable skips and bounces.  Loras is very fact and aggressive attacking team, a wet field could help or hinder them.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 17, 2013, 02:36:30 PM
Loras is drilling the Norse, but unable to find the back of the net
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 17, 2013, 03:11:16 PM
Duhawks breakdown the Norse to go up 1-0!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Cheesehead Henry on November 17, 2013, 04:12:46 PM
heading to 2OT for the norse-duhawk game. actually a very interesting game to watch! less one sided than i thought would happen.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Wormburner on November 17, 2013, 04:39:56 PM
Loras gets through on the shootout.  Major props to Luther!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 17, 2013, 04:42:27 PM
Loras's field play was outstanding, they just didn't finish their opportunities.  Now on to the Sweet 16 or more than likely stay for the Sweet 16 against an unknown Westminster.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Wormburner on November 17, 2013, 04:54:59 PM
Quote from: KICKIN95 on November 17, 2013, 04:42:27 PM
Loras's field play was outstanding, they just didn't finish their opportunities. 

Still biting my tongue on the missed opportunities.  From this point on, it will be a short run if they don't start capitalizing on the opportunities.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: PaulNewman on November 17, 2013, 05:02:22 PM
Now D3 soccer brackets saying Sectionals at Westminster AND Rose Hulman.  Gotta be mistake, right?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KnightRider23 on November 17, 2013, 05:10:31 PM
Only (somewhat) logical reason Westminster could conceivably host is that they'd be a halfway point of travel for the Iowa teams and the team from the Trinity regional. Still would be a ridiculous decision if Loras didn't host...
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 17, 2013, 06:37:53 PM
Must be a mistake I don't see how Loras wouldn't host.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 17, 2013, 06:50:11 PM
You have Wartburg and Loras that are barely 100 miles apart and if Trinity doesn't end up winning somehow they would have to change locations.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Christan Shirk on November 17, 2013, 09:36:39 PM
The sectional host sites that were showing on the D3soccer.com brackets for a period of time were the result of a programming error--nothing more, nothing less.  It was not an attempt to predict the hosts nor was it based on any advanced insider information. 

Sincere apologies for the confusion caused and that we did not catch it and correct it sooner.

If there is any positive in an error of this nature, it is that it lets us know how much people go to our website for their D-III soccer information.  We are so thankful for the growing number of people that visit the site as we strive to build credibility and earn trust.  Thus we truly regret mistakes that undermine that aim.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 18, 2013, 07:53:33 AM
Loras, Messiah, Rutgers Camden,  and Amherst are the hosts for sweet 16.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on November 18, 2013, 10:51:09 AM
Quote from: KICKIN95 on November 18, 2013, 07:53:33 AM
Loras, Messiah, Rutgers Camden,  and Amherst are the hosts for sweet 16.

Looks like there won't be any rain in Dubuque this weekend but the high for both days is 28 degrees... Its going to be nice to kick the frozen ball on those days.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Ambush004 on November 18, 2013, 10:53:23 AM
Does anyone know what days and times the games will be?  Also is this the first time a SLIAC team has made it this far?  Very poor conference but the Duhawks cannot take them lightly and let this team hang around.  They've proved to be dangerous regardless of their record/schedule. 

Loras 3
Westminster 0

Trinity 2
Wartburg 2 --- Wartburg in OT

Loras-  2 --- See you in San Anton
Wartturd -  1
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 18, 2013, 11:45:14 AM
Times will be announced soon
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: futbol17 on November 18, 2013, 11:56:22 AM
I believe it will be Loras VS Westminister at 5pm and Wartburg VS Trinity at 7:30pm on Saturday
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on November 18, 2013, 12:11:32 PM
Loras 1
Westminster 0
Loras has not been very urgent with their attacking and I think they will have trouble finishing their opportunities. Against Luther when they had the wind in OT they had guys walking around and not making runs. Luther looked like they wanted it more.

Quote from: Ambush004 on November 18, 2013, 10:53:23 AM
Trinity 2
Wartburg 2 --- Wartburg in OT
Trinity has given up 6 goals this year with only 1 game being more than 1 goal and you think Wartburg will put 2 on them.
Trinity 2
Wartburg 0

Loras-  1
Trinity -  1
Loras ADV on PK's
Hard fought game, Trinity scores first Loras forced to score late with Minutes remaining. Sean Elvert scores the final PK to put them through.<---Heard it hear first
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: ldahoSoccer on November 18, 2013, 01:36:35 PM
Is anyone else surprised the all-conference awards are not out yet? 
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 18, 2013, 01:53:23 PM
Quote from: ldahoSoccer on November 18, 2013, 01:36:35 PM
Is anyone else surprised the all-conference awards are not out yet?
I was thinking the same thing yesterday.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on November 18, 2013, 03:42:11 PM
Having watched some of the Loras game yesterday they should be able to handle Westminster pretty handily, especially at home.  Loras will need to show urgency in their attack early on.  If the Duhawks score first and score in the first 20 minutes of the game we could be looking at a 3 or 4-0 scoreline.  If Westminster scores the first goal of the game then anything is possible (as I saw twice this weekend in MN).  Westminster doesn't do any one thing particularly well except for hold on for dear life, they were excellent at that!  They have no players that really stick out besides their goalkeeper.  Their GK is pretty good in situational play (coming out on 50/50 balls, collecting crosses etc.).  I am unsure on his shot stopping ability as neither GAC or CarlEton decided they wanted to take shots on target in either game played.  My prediction for this one is 2-0 Loras.

Trinity vs. Wartburg has the makings of a very good game.  I think that Trinity's experience in the tournament will likely get them by in this one.  1-0 Trinity.

Congrats to the IIAC on a great season.  Two IIAC teams in the Sweet 16 is an excellent showing.  An IIAC Elite 8 matchup would be pretty entertaining.  Good luck this weekend to the remaining North Region teams.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Cheesehead Henry on November 18, 2013, 04:23:37 PM
Wartburg-Trinity will be a very interesting one to watch. One of the nation's greatest defenses against one of the nations highest offenses. I can't wait!

Wartburg 1, Trinity 0 (OT) off a Chris Nothnick breakaway.

By the way I almost picked Loras losing in the second round correctly! All you loras alum dismissing my comment like I have no idea what I'm talking about. LORAS HASN'T BEEN PLAYING WELL LATELY. I'll say it again in a much better way, with more truth behind it. Loras has not been finding the net when they need to and that hurts them! They're a much better team than Luther but if they can't score, you saw what happens. Good thing Milkent was there to make a great save to save them in PKs.

Although I do think they'll brush past Westminster 1-0 with a backdoor header goal by Johny Rummelhart.

-Henry
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Ambush004 on November 18, 2013, 05:28:08 PM
Loras needs to come out flying at Westminster with a "Welcome to the Sweet Sixteen" mentality.  Westminster wets the bed and the Duhawks have a nice scrimmage before the Elite 8. 
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 18, 2013, 06:08:06 PM
Quote from: Cheesehead Henry on November 18, 2013, 04:23:37 PM
Wartburg-Trinity will be a very interesting one to watch. One of the nation's greatest defenses against one of the nations highest offenses. I can't wait!

Wartburg 1, Trinity 0 (OT) off a Chris Nothnick breakaway.

By the way I almost picked Loras losing in the second round correctly! All you loras alum dismissing my comment like I have no idea what I'm talking about. LORAS HASN'T BEEN PLAYING WELL LATELY. I'll say it again in a much better way, with more truth behind it. Loras has not been finding the net when they need to and that hurts them! They're a much better team than Luther but if they can't score, you saw what happens. Good thing Milkent was there to make a great save to save them in PKs.

Although I do think they'll brush past Westminster 1-0 with a backdoor header goal by Johny Rummelhart.

-Henry
That's a much better assessment than "not playing well lately".  I think Loras has been playing quite well, they dominated Luther for all but 8 minutes of that match, but Luther's keeper coming up huge paired with Loras's inability to to finish great looks at goal led to an OT and shootout.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Durantula on November 18, 2013, 10:19:18 PM
all conference comes out tomorrow what are predictions for who will be first team?
which team will have the most first teamers?
or most overall?
Offensive and defensive mvp

I think for first team it will be

Loras (3) Cavers, Figura, Tom Fluegel

Wartburg (4) Paris Martins, Cade Shatzer, Dan Nadeau, and Bob Brown

Luther (2)  Garcia-Pratts, Brock Arend???

Simpson-- White maybe Varnum???

Dubuque- Wrinkler


I feel like I need some defenders in there so I'm not really sure! Maybe a Luther defender????

Also cavers will get offensive mvp and bob brown will get defensive mvp
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Cheesehead Henry on November 18, 2013, 10:30:46 PM
Not bad for predictions Durantula but do you think Wartburg will get 4 first team all conference mentions? More than Loras? I don't know.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Durantula on November 18, 2013, 10:33:23 PM
Loras plays so many players that their stats get spread around a lot more. Defense gave up goals vs. simpson central and 2 to wartburg so im not sure if they'll have anymore besides figura.

What do you think?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Cheesehead Henry on November 18, 2013, 10:38:23 PM
Ah, you're probably right on that one in terms of many guys playing. Do you think Shatzer will get first team over Milkent? I see you had Shatzer as first team. Elaborate.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Durantula on November 18, 2013, 10:45:29 PM
You gotta look at head to head and shatzer got the win. I think that's ultimately why Wartburg will have more first teamers as well. Maybe the people picking also want the goalie to take his own goal kicks............tiebreaker
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Cheesehead Henry on November 18, 2013, 10:52:49 PM
This is such a complicated comparison because they are two VERY competent GKs! Hahaha I was waiting for someone else to see my point about Milkent and him not taking his own goal kicks! That must be the tiebreaker :P
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 19, 2013, 08:48:13 AM
Quote from: Cheesehead Henry on November 18, 2013, 10:52:49 PM
This is such a complicated comparison because they are two VERY competent GKs! Hahaha I was waiting for someone else to see my point about Milkent and him not taking his own goal kicks! That must be the tiebreaker :P
I actually watched Wartburg and Luther this past week and they both had defenders taking their goal kicks at one point or another in the match sooooo...
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Cheesehead Henry on November 19, 2013, 07:17:24 PM
All Conference Honors came out tonight! Not surprised at all actually. A good year for the IIAC.

Quote from: Ambush004 on November 05, 2013, 10:54:12 AM
Shatzer would be the 3rd string keeper at Loras without question.

You have to assume I'm bringing this comment out again. Durantula, you were right in terms of Shatzer being first team. The fact that this quote was even said by someone is quite comical.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 20, 2013, 08:44:42 AM
Sports supporting each other at Loras College.  Here is a clip of the DuHawks basketball team taking down #5 ranked Wheaton Thunder (seems to be our thing with the Thunder) and near the end 2 time IIAC MVP and 1st team All American Kevin Cavers is seen in the mixed mob giving props to his fellow gladiators in white.  It was a bit easier to pick him out since he was wearing a yellow Loras Soccer shirt with his number on it (#20).  That image brought me back to when I was about 4 or 5 and we would watch college and pro sports and I wondered if the players always had uniforms on or just at their games.  Well I think this proves my initial theory that they do actually wear their uniforms all the time.
Actually spotted Dan Figura and about 5 other DuHawk soccer players after watching this again!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvmUSkyEUkw
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Ambush004 on November 20, 2013, 10:00:23 AM
Shatzer would be a second string keeper at Loras ;D
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Ambush004 on November 20, 2013, 10:07:57 AM
Kickin that video is awesome.  Shows how some fan power can influence the game. 
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on November 21, 2013, 03:41:15 AM
Loras - 3
Westminster - 0
Once the Duhawks get one, the the Blue Jays will open up and expose themselves.

Wartburg - 1
Trinity - 2
2OT
Trinity scores early, but can't put away the Knights resulting in a late goal.

Loras - 1
Trinity - 0
In a full out battle, the combination of Berkowitz/Figura/Burgmeier/Milkent keep the potent Tiger offense off the board, sending the Duhawks back to San Antonio.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: duhawk on November 21, 2013, 10:33:25 AM
I know it's cold every time Loras hosts this late, but it's going to be unusually cold this weekend.  Having never played soccer, I'm wondering what effect that kind of cold will have on play.  I'd like to see the actual talent of these teams and not just who can stomach being out there.  Trinity especially will feel like they're in the Klondike.   It could be 15 degrees at the start of the Warty/Trin. match-up.  Just wondering out-loud to those who have played in anything like this.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on November 21, 2013, 10:49:45 AM
Quote from: duhawk on November 21, 2013, 10:33:25 AM
I know it's cold every time Loras hosts this late, but it's going to be unusually cold this weekend.  Having never played soccer, I'm wondering what effect that kind of cold will have on play.  I'd like to see the actual talent of these teams and not just who can stomach being out there.  Trinity especially will feel like they're in the Klondike.   It could be 15 degrees at the start of the Warty/Trin. match-up.  Just wondering out-loud to those who have played in anything like this.

At least it won't be raining and that cold, cross your fingers, that's when your feet get frozen and the first few kicks of the ball sting a bit. This weather is a good advantage for Loras and Wartburg against Trinity considering it's in the 70's down there right now. Not that it will make it night and day for them but it will help.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: ldahoSoccer on November 21, 2013, 02:10:01 PM
Is it Saturday yet or what?

DuHawks, a million; SLIAC, 0   Simpson is scratching their heads about this one.  What could have been.

Wartburg, 0; Trinity, 2    The great (and surprising) season comes to an end for the Knights on the Rockbowl.  Does Trinity even have long sleeve jerseys?

DuHawks, 1; Trinity, 0    DuHawks score one late on a set piece. 

Assistant Coach of the Year: Hands down Matt Pucci from Loras.  He does the intangibles.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybSnuejwTy0

Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Medicated Pete on November 23, 2013, 12:03:52 PM
 ;D Its GAME DAY IIAC... Letzz Go Duhawks!!

Duhawks 2-0 Westminster
Wartturd 3-1 Trinity

Duhawks 3-2 Wartturd

San Antonio..43 degrees and rainy.. Final Four Moves to Rock Bowl  :o
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on November 23, 2013, 12:06:25 PM


Loras 3, Westminster 0.

Trinity 2, Wartburg 0.


Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: ldahoSoccer on November 23, 2013, 06:32:17 PM
Did anyone else lose the feed?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: duhawk on November 23, 2013, 06:35:58 PM
Yep, it just went out.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 23, 2013, 08:14:38 PM
Loras wins 2-0 in a statistical slaughter.  I will be there tomorrow to cheer on the Duhawks!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: ldahoSoccer on November 24, 2013, 11:35:13 AM
Quote from: Puerco Espin on November 21, 2013, 03:41:15 AM
Loras - 3
Westminster - 0
Once the Duhawks get one, the the Blue Jays will open up and expose themselves.

Wartburg - 1
Trinity - 2
2OT
Trinity scores early, but can't put away the Knights resulting in a late goal.

Loras - 1
Trinity - 0
In a full out battle, the combination of Berkowitz/Figura/Burgmeier/Milkent keep the potent Tiger offense off the board, sending the Duhawks back to San Antonio.

Impressive so far
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on November 24, 2013, 03:51:42 PM
Loras - 3
Trinity - 0

This is the game that the Duhawks have been waiting for all year. They break out and score in the opening 15 like they did a year ago in the Elite 8 game against Wheaton. Then, Trinity starts to panic, resulting in two more goals for the Du's.

Set to be 25 degrees at kickoff. Make sure to wear your long john's.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on November 24, 2013, 06:07:17 PM
Anybody else having trouble with the video for Loras/Trinity?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Ryan Harmanis on November 24, 2013, 06:16:00 PM
Not working for me, but live stats say Trinity is up 1-0 about 10 minutes in.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on November 24, 2013, 06:19:50 PM
No Video. Only Audio...
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 24, 2013, 06:51:20 PM
Loras has dominated this match since the 18 mi mark.  Trinity are whining crying hacks!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 24, 2013, 06:56:07 PM
Trinity clips trips hacks and whines non stop. The goal was a flukey but a goal non the less. Loras needs to finish there multiple opportunities and take control.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 24, 2013, 08:53:06 PM
2-1 Loras victory.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on November 24, 2013, 08:54:33 PM
FINAL FOUR
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: ldahoSoccer on November 25, 2013, 10:41:07 AM
Updated signature
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: MidwestAficionado on November 25, 2013, 11:06:27 AM
Quote from: ldahoSoccer on November 25, 2013, 10:41:07 AM
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Unfortunately that will be the last you update it this year... Looks like Messiah v Rutgers Camden in the final
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on November 25, 2013, 11:27:42 AM
Loras is avoiding Messiah in the Final 4 this year which is a breath of fresh air for the Duhawks faithful I am sure. 

This may be the year that the NCAA champion comes from the North Region.  I am not a Loras fan (actually they are my least favorite team in all of college sports, any sport, any level).  But, they have been knocking on the door for a long time and they are a pretty complete team from top to bottom.

The IIAC as a whole has been excellent this year.  If not for a keeper error on the PK there should've been an all-IIAC Elite 8. 

Good luck to all teams remaining.  Enjoy Texas, it will certainly be better than playing in the 10 degree heat of the midwest to end your season.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 25, 2013, 11:28:44 AM
Quote from: MidwestAficionado on November 25, 2013, 11:06:27 AM
Quote from: ldahoSoccer on November 25, 2013, 10:41:07 AM
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Unfortunately that will be the last you update it this year... Looks like Messiah v Rutgers Camden in the final
That is an incorrect statement.  Pretty bold to pass Loras over like that, you obviously didn't see any of their matches this season.  They just dominated according to D3Soccer "The hottest team in DIII".
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 25, 2013, 11:29:58 AM
That's as good an endorsement as the DuHawks will ever get out of GG and I will take it. ;D
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Wormburner on November 25, 2013, 11:35:10 AM
GG is just tired of being the MIAC Armstrong sales rep the past few years...

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Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 25, 2013, 11:58:20 AM
Quote from: Wormburner on November 25, 2013, 11:35:10 AM
GG is just tired of being the MIAC Armstrong sales rep the past few years...

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LOL!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on November 25, 2013, 12:03:06 PM
Thankfully Wormburner GAC won in the 1st round this year.  If they would've lost to a UMAC team I may have cried grown man tears.  Unfortunately GAC couldn't muster up enough in 20 MPH winds and missing two 1st team all-conference players to break Westminster (brutal....).

I saw some of the Loras and Westminster game and it looked like Westminster might just be pesky enough to stick around in that one.  The first goal from Loras was a dime by Cavers and a great finish by the player making the run behind the Westminster backline.  I suppose I would rather have 10 degrees and calm winds compared to 20 degrees and howling winds as they were in the first few rounds for pretty much everyone in the midwest.  Pretty brutal either way... It isn't often you can see the players breathing from a webcast where the camera is 80 yards away.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: ldahoSoccer on November 25, 2013, 12:37:15 PM
Quote from: MidwestAficionado on November 25, 2013, 11:06:27 AM
Quote from: ldahoSoccer on November 25, 2013, 10:41:07 AM
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Unfortunately that will be the last you update it this year... Looks like Messiah v Rutgers Camden in the final

Haters to the left.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: MidwestAficionado on November 25, 2013, 03:17:55 PM
Quote from: KICKIN95 on November 25, 2013, 11:28:44 AM
Quote from: MidwestAficionado on November 25, 2013, 11:06:27 AM
Quote from: ldahoSoccer on November 25, 2013, 10:41:07 AM
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Unfortunately that will be the last you update it this year... Looks like Messiah v Rutgers Camden in the final
That is an incorrect statement.  Pretty bold to pass Loras over like that, you obviously didn't see any of their matches this season.  They just dominated according to D3Soccer "The hottest team in DIII".

Clearly D3Soccer knows all... I have seen Loras... who have they beaten? Oshkosh (out in the 1st round) and Wheaton (out in the 2nd round). North Park and Calvin didn't even make it to the tourney. They have had the easiest road to the final four, almost got knocked out in the 2nd round, played an overmatched Westminster, and an overrated Trinity in a one goal game.  Messiah and Rutgers Camden have been down a harder road and have won with more ease... when I'm right, I'll get my credit. The kickball/hockey lines strategy of Loras will only get them so far, per usual.

We're all internet tough guys until it actually plays out. Just saying, I know we'll see Rutgers v Messiah in the final. You can trash talk then.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: ldahoSoccer on November 25, 2013, 03:28:35 PM
Quote from: MidwestAficionado on November 25, 2013, 03:17:55 PM
Quote from: KICKIN95 on November 25, 2013, 11:28:44 AM
Quote from: MidwestAficionado on November 25, 2013, 11:06:27 AM
Quote from: ldahoSoccer on November 25, 2013, 10:41:07 AM
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Unfortunately that will be the last you update it this year... Looks like Messiah v Rutgers Camden in the final
That is an incorrect statement.  Pretty bold to pass Loras over like that, you obviously didn't see any of their matches this season.  They just dominated according to D3Soccer "The hottest team in DIII".

Clearly D3Soccer knows all... I have seen Loras... who have they beaten? Oshkosh (out in the 1st round) and Wheaton (out in the 2nd round). North Park and Calvin didn't even make it to the tourney. They have had the easiest road to the final four, almost got knocked out in the 2nd round, played an overmatched Westminster, and an overrated Trinity in a one goal game.  Messiah and Rutgers Camden have been down a harder road and have won with more ease... when I'm right, I'll get my credit. The kickball/hockey lines strategy of Loras will only get them so far, per usual.

We're all internet tough guys until it actually plays out. Just saying, I know we'll see Rutgers v Messiah in the final. You can trash talk then.

Has to be GG's alternate account.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: MidwestAficionado on November 25, 2013, 03:33:36 PM
Quote from: ldahoSoccer on November 25, 2013, 03:28:35 PM
Has to be GG's alternate account.

Nope, new to Division III Soccer but have really immersed myself in it the last 3 seasons. Just saying, if you've seen these teams out East they are on a different level.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on November 25, 2013, 03:51:08 PM
Wheaton lost to Kenyon who then almost beat Messiah. Watching the first half of that game I was not overly impressed with Messiah compared to past years. Speaking of Messiah in past years, they too used the strategy of "Hockey Lines" ,as you put it, and each one of those players were capable of playing the entire game. But when you have depth on your team then you might as well use it.

Who has Messiah beaten? Montclair State, who limped to the Elite Eight. Centenary? Salisbury? Kenyon (16-4-3) unranked.

Trinity had given up a mere 7 goals and only 2 goals one time this season. Who went to double OT against a surprisingly strong Wartburg team. While I'm not going to say Wesminster was a great team but their goalie was hot during this tournament and came up with some great saves to hold Loras at bay.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on November 25, 2013, 04:16:46 PM
If I had an alternate account it would be called PotatoPele, only because I admire your intelligence Idaho.

MidwestAficionado, it doesn't matter how you get there, it matters that you are there.  Each team has earned it's right to be in the Final 4 and I wouldn't be surprised by any of the teams winning it all (except maybe Williams).  Williams will have to have beaten Amherst, Messiah, than either Loras or Rutgers-Camden to win it all.  That would be a very impressive run.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: ldahoSoccer on November 25, 2013, 04:26:03 PM
Quote from: MidwestAficionado on November 25, 2013, 03:33:36 PM
Quote from: ldahoSoccer on November 25, 2013, 03:28:35 PM
Has to be GG's alternate account.

Nope, new to Division III Soccer but have really immersed myself in it the last 3 seasons. Just saying, if you've seen these teams out East they are on a different level.

GG - Are we starting to get along?  Your alt account, MidwestAficionado, is bringing us together.

MidwestAfic - Read below

Toughest Schedule Report thru games 11/24/2013*
1   Loras   IIAC
2   York (PA)   CAC   
3   Amherst   NESCAC   
4   St. Lawrence Liberty League   
5   Wesleyan (CT)   NESCAC   
6   Wartburg   IIAC   
7   Williams   NESCAC   
8   Messiah   Commonwealth   
9   Trinity (TX)   SCAC   
10   Emory   UAA

*Source = http://stats.ncaa.org/rankings?sport_code=MSO&division=3#
              Click on Misc. Report
              Click on Toughest schedule

Rutgers-Camden is 28th on the list. Your argument is unfounded.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on November 25, 2013, 04:53:46 PM
Quote from: GarbageGoals33 on November 25, 2013, 11:27:42 AM
Loras is avoiding Messiah in the Final 4 this year which is a breath of fresh air for the Duhawks faithful I am sure. 

This may be the year that the NCAA champion comes from the North Region.  I am not a Loras fan (actually they are my least favorite team in all of college sports, any sport, any level).  But, they have been knocking on the door for a long time and they are a pretty complete team from top to bottom.

The IIAC as a whole has been excellent this year.  If not for a keeper error on the PK there should've been an all-IIAC Elite 8. 

Good luck to all teams remaining.  Enjoy Texas, it will certainly be better than playing in the 10 degree heat of the midwest to end your season.


Yeah, lucky for the Duhawk faithful... they get to avoid the "MESSIAH" name by playing a team every bit as talented, if not better than those Falcons, just not as well known (YET).  Worrying about a name or history is irrelevent at this stage.  Both of these games will be battles before the Championship, and if the NESCAC is as good as everyone makes it out to be (which I don't believe), then Messiah "could" have their hands full with a team playing in decent form in that of Williams.

Who cares of the paths that lead to the Final Four as 3 of the 4 were given the opportunity host (and have damn good records there).


My predictions:

Rutgers-Camden 2, Loras 1

Messiah 3, Williams 0.




Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 25, 2013, 05:00:18 PM
Quote from: MidwestAficionado on November 25, 2013, 03:33:36 PM
Quote from: ldahoSoccer on November 25, 2013, 03:28:35 PM
Has to be GG's alternate account.

Nope, new to Division III Soccer but have really immersed myself in it the last 3 seasons. Just saying, if you've seen these teams out East they are on a different level.
So you are new to DIII soccer, but seem to have it all figured out.  I watched R-C play, a different level they are not.  If you have been immersed for 3 seasons than you must certainly recall last years semi final between Messiah and Loras.  Both teams battled with neither showing a strong advantage over the other.  Loras has a goal called back and another off the post in regulation before Messiah had a fortunate bounce off a block to win in OT.  Loras was given the 2nd place ranking in the nation after the tourney because of their abilities and because of how Messiah trounced ONU in the final.  So for you to say "as per usual" is an ill informed and uneducated statement to say the least.  Let's take it a step further and do some comparisons to your R-C team and Loras shall we?  How many times has R-C made the final 4? Oh this is their first hmmm, how many times have they even made the tourney, well it says here 4, that would less than half of Loras's 9 in which they reached the Sweet 16 7 of those and as stated in the previous sentence the Final 4 four times in the past 7 years and this year being a repeat appearance.  Ya better pay a bit more attention before speaking up about a team and their experience.  You think that possession teams are always the better side and "hockey line" tactics aren't up to your standards eh?  Well who is the most possession oriented team in the world today Jamaica, Nigeria?  How do they fare against teams such as the Dutch or England? I'll save you the time of looking, not to well.  Loras plays to their strengths and have the ability to posses or go direct, whichever works at the time.   I will conclude with directing you to the post below by Idaho in reference to your "Foot in Mouth" comment about who Loras has played to get here.  According to the NCAA they have played the toughest schedule in the nation that's who!

I have to comment of GG' alternate name of potatoPele that is golden!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on November 25, 2013, 05:54:13 PM

GG - Are we starting to get along?  Your alt account, MidwestAficionado, is bringing us together.

MidwestAfic - Read below

Toughest Schedule Report thru games 11/24/2013*
1   Loras   IIAC
2   York (PA)   CAC   
3   Amherst   NESCAC   
4   St. Lawrence Liberty League   
5   Wesleyan (CT)   NESCAC   
6   Wartburg   IIAC   
7   Williams   NESCAC   
8   Messiah   Commonwealth   
9   Trinity (TX)   SCAC   
10   Emory   UAA

*Source = http://stats.ncaa.org/rankings?sport_code=MSO&division=3#
              Click on Misc. Report
              Click on Toughest schedule

Rutgers-Camden is 28th on the list. Your argument is unfounded.
[/quote]


Camden is low due playing Eastern Mennonite and Cairn.  Other than that, they could be much higher...

Bennett Rankings have the NESCAC bias, Tufts is shockingly still 7th in the nation!
NJAC is ranked 3rd conference overall with Avg BR of 52, IIAC is 9th overall with Avg BR of 108
http://bennettranking.com/men/d3

Massey Rating
http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?s=csoc2013&sub=11620

                           Massey Rank          Massey SOS      Massey Off   Massey Def          Bennett Rank        Bennet SOS      Off       Def
Messiah                      1                           10                      1                  20                          3                          115            7         15
Camden                      2                             9                      4                   4                           1                            16            1         10
Loras                          3                             5                     15                  1                           6                            21            5          5
Williams                    13                             1                     32                 19                          4                              7            4         11
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: MidwestAficionado on November 25, 2013, 07:38:52 PM
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on November 25, 2013, 05:54:13 PM

GG - Are we starting to get along?  Your alt account, MidwestAficionado, is bringing us together.

MidwestAfic - Read below

Toughest Schedule Report thru games 11/24/2013*
1   Loras   IIAC
2   York (PA)   CAC   
3   Amherst   NESCAC   
4   St. Lawrence Liberty League   
5   Wesleyan (CT)   NESCAC   
6   Wartburg   IIAC   
7   Williams   NESCAC   
8   Messiah   Commonwealth   
9   Trinity (TX)   SCAC   
10   Emory   UAA

*Source = http://stats.ncaa.org/rankings?sport_code=MSO&division=3#
              Click on Misc. Report
              Click on Toughest schedule

Rutgers-Camden is 28th on the list. Your argument is unfounded.


Camden is low due playing Eastern Mennonite and Cairn.  Other than that, they could be much higher...

Bennett Rankings have the NESCAC bias, Tufts is shockingly still 7th in the nation!
NJAC is ranked 3rd conference overall with Avg BR of 52, IIAC is 9th overall with Avg BR of 108
http://bennettranking.com/men/d3

Massey Rating
http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?s=csoc2013&sub=11620

                           Massey Rank          Massey SOS      Massey Off   Massey Def          Bennett Rank        Bennet SOS      Off       Def
Messiah                      1                           10                      1                  20                          3                          115            7         15
Camden                      2                             9                      4                   4                           1                            16            1         10
Loras                          3                             5                     15                  1                           6                            21            5          5
Williams                    13                             1                     32                 19                          4                              7            4         11
[/quote]

No idea who GG is and I'm not him.

Rutgers Camden is 22-0-2. With your numbers, that is versus the 28th/9th/16th toughest schedule while in the 3rd toughest conference. They have 2 Non Wins. Rutgers Camden is 4-0-1 vs NCAA Tournament Teams.

Loras is 19-1-3. With your numbers, that is versus the 1st/5th/21st toughest schedule while in the 9th toughest conference. They have 4 Non Wins, including 1 in the Tournament. Loras is 5-1-2 vs NCAA Tournament Teams.

Rutgers Camden has 1 Non Win in 5 games against NCAA Tournament Teams. Loras has 3 Non Wins in 8 games against NCAA Tournaments Teams.

Your definition of unfounded is quite off. My case certainly holds water when you cut out meaningless biased rankings.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: MidwestAficionado on November 25, 2013, 07:53:17 PM
Quote from: KICKIN95 on November 25, 2013, 05:00:18 PM
Quote from: MidwestAficionado on November 25, 2013, 03:33:36 PM
Quote from: ldahoSoccer on November 25, 2013, 03:28:35 PM
Has to be GG's alternate account.

Nope, new to Division III Soccer but have really immersed myself in it the last 3 seasons. Just saying, if you've seen these teams out East they are on a different level.
So you are new to DIII soccer, but seem to have it all figured out.  I watched R-C play, a different level they are not.  If you have been immersed for 3 seasons than you must certainly recall last years semi final between Messiah and Loras.  Both teams battled with neither showing a strong advantage over the other.  Loras has a goal called back and another off the post in regulation before Messiah had a fortunate bounce off a block to win in OT.  Loras was given the 2nd place ranking in the nation after the tourney because of their abilities and because of how Messiah trounced ONU in the final.  So for you to say "as per usual" is an ill informed and uneducated statement to say the least.  Let's take it a step further and do some comparisons to your R-C team and Loras shall we?  How many times has R-C made the final 4? Oh this is their first hmmm, how many times have they even made the tourney, well it says here 4, that would less than half of Loras's 9 in which they reached the Sweet 16 7 of those and as stated in the previous sentence the Final 4 four times in the past 7 years and this year being a repeat appearance.  Ya better pay a bit more attention before speaking up about a team and their experience.  You think that possession teams are always the better side and "hockey line" tactics aren't up to your standards eh?  Well who is the most possession oriented team in the world today Jamaica, Nigeria?  How do they fare against teams such as the Dutch or England? I'll save you the time of looking, not to well.  Loras plays to their strengths and have the ability to posses or go direct, whichever works at the time.   I will conclude with directing you to the post below by Idaho in reference to your "Foot in Mouth" comment about who Loras has played to get here.  According to the NCAA they have played the toughest schedule in the nation that's who!

I have to comment of GG' alternate name of potatoPele that is golden!

The NCAA knows what about soccer? Clock counts down... 10 second count off... unlimited subs... you're making the NCAA out to be the soccer experts which they clearly are not.

I love your rattling off all of Loras's past accomplishments. They are impressive, no doubt. I'm sure Rutgers Camden will lay down to these past accomplishment when they see this list. Actually, guess what? It's not about the past, it's about 2013. If it wasn't, then St. Louis would be playing Indiana in the Division I final and we should expect Hungary to take on West Germany in next year's World Cup. Haha but the past dictates nada. And if you wanna say that if this goal wasn't called off or this post wasn't there then Messiah would have lost to Loras... then what would Luther be saying about the Tie/PKs in Round 2.

Rutgers Camden is 4-0-1 vs NCAA Tournament Teams, Loras is 5-1-2. That is 1 Non Win vs 3 Non Wins. Loras has barely survived its first 3 Tournament games. They are not hitting stride, simply surviving. I don't base things on this ranking or that ranking. I don't live in the past and say woulda coulda shoulda. I base it on results. That is my logic for my prediction and I stand by it.

Should be exciting to see how this plays out. You all will howl at the moon if I am wrong. But when I'm right, I suspect you all won't say a peep. Lots of Tommy Tough Guys on the internet here with their bashing comments and biased favoritism instead of meaningful banter.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: ldahoSoccer on November 25, 2013, 08:45:27 PM
Quote from: MidwestAficionado on November 25, 2013, 07:53:17 PM
Quote from: KICKIN95 on November 25, 2013, 05:00:18 PM
Quote from: MidwestAficionado on November 25, 2013, 03:33:36 PM
Quote from: ldahoSoccer on November 25, 2013, 03:28:35 PM
Has to be GG's alternate account.

Nope, new to Division III Soccer but have really immersed myself in it the last 3 seasons. Just saying, if you've seen these teams out East they are on a different level.
So you are new to DIII soccer, but seem to have it all figured out.  I watched R-C play, a different level they are not.  If you have been immersed for 3 seasons than you must certainly recall last years semi final between Messiah and Loras.  Both teams battled with neither showing a strong advantage over the other.  Loras has a goal called back and another off the post in regulation before Messiah had a fortunate bounce off a block to win in OT.  Loras was given the 2nd place ranking in the nation after the tourney because of their abilities and because of how Messiah trounced ONU in the final.  So for you to say "as per usual" is an ill informed and uneducated statement to say the least.  Let's take it a step further and do some comparisons to your R-C team and Loras shall we?  How many times has R-C made the final 4? Oh this is their first hmmm, how many times have they even made the tourney, well it says here 4, that would less than half of Loras's 9 in which they reached the Sweet 16 7 of those and as stated in the previous sentence the Final 4 four times in the past 7 years and this year being a repeat appearance.  Ya better pay a bit more attention before speaking up about a team and their experience.  You think that possession teams are always the better side and "hockey line" tactics aren't up to your standards eh?  Well who is the most possession oriented team in the world today Jamaica, Nigeria?  How do they fare against teams such as the Dutch or England? I'll save you the time of looking, not to well.  Loras plays to their strengths and have the ability to posses or go direct, whichever works at the time.   I will conclude with directing you to the post below by Idaho in reference to your "Foot in Mouth" comment about who Loras has played to get here.  According to the NCAA they have played the toughest schedule in the nation that's who!

I have to comment of GG' alternate name of potatoPele that is golden!

The NCAA knows what about soccer? Clock counts down... 10 second count off... unlimited subs... you're making the NCAA out to be the soccer experts which they clearly are not.

I love your rattling off all of Loras's past accomplishments. They are impressive, no doubt. I'm sure Rutgers Camden will lay down to these past accomplishment when they see this list. Actually, guess what? It's not about the past, it's about 2013. If it wasn't, then St. Louis would be playing Indiana in the Division I final and we should expect Hungary to take on West Germany in next year's World Cup. Haha but the past dictates nada. And if you wanna say that if this goal wasn't called off or this post wasn't there then Messiah would have lost to Loras... then what would Luther be saying about the Tie/PKs in Round 2.

Rutgers Camden is 4-0-1 vs NCAA Tournament Teams, Loras is 5-1-2. That is 1 Non Win vs 3 Non Wins. Loras has barely survived its first 3 Tournament games. They are not hitting stride, simply surviving. I don't base things on this ranking or that ranking. I don't live in the past and say woulda coulda shoulda. I base it on results. That is my logic for my prediction and I stand by it.

Should be exciting to see how this plays out. You all will howl at the moon if I am wrong. But when I'm right, I suspect you all won't say a peep. Lots of Tommy Tough Guys on the internet here with their bashing comments and biased favoritism instead of meaningful banter.

You seem to be backpedaling awfully early. 
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 25, 2013, 08:48:33 PM
"What does the NCAA know about soccer"?  Well I guess they would know enough to be the only governing body that actually matter when it comes to college soccer (rankings, seedings, Nation Tournament), other than that...

I don't recall giving any bashing comments.  Then past is relevant because it is a sense of winning that is handed down from year to year.  "Barely surviving it's first 3 tourney matches"?  3 matches that were collectively dominated in every category. An in conference battle which Loras held Luther to a single shot on goal that they snuck in, Loras outshot them 24-9 and 14-1 SOG, corners were 7-2.  Westminster "Cinderella" was outclasses in every facet and held scoreless in an easy 2-0 scrimmage, 27-13 shots and 11-3 SOG, corner were 9-4. Trinity "The hottest team in DIII riding a 19 game winning streak and outscoring their opponents 88-3 during that time comes to The Rock Bowl and gets promptly escorted out with a 2-1 defeat, oh and one of their 2 other losses came to none other than Luther College 2-0.  Loras again outshot their opponent 18-13 and 7-6 SOG with a healthy 8-3 corner advantage. This all adds up to a lop sided 69-35 shot advantage, a 32-10 SOG advantage, a 24-9 corner advantage, and last but not least 5-2 goal advantage.  Cleary this all lends itself to you spot on analysis of "barely surviving".  You are nothing if not confident and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, but just because your team is having an indisputably great season doesn't make them the better team.  OWU can attest to that, Messiah can attest to that, Loras can attest to that, in '07 they were 23-0-2 and lost in PK's to eventual champion Middlebury.   Your team is on a great run and you are coming on our thread with arrogance and disrespect and basically saying that R-C has already punched their ticket to the Cup.  And what's with the Tommy Tough Guy thing is that a self reflection? I don't remember reading anywhere on this thread about someone saying they were going to "beat you up"?  You have been a follower for 3 years, well I have been a follower for 30 years and a former DIII player from 21 years ago so I think you might need a little more time on the bench and earn your spot before you start disrespecting this regions teams and knowledge of the game.  If anyone is being the "poser" and the Tommy Tough Guy it would be you.  The only way this will be settled is on the pitch and I am sure it will be a great match, if you are in San Antonio supporting your squad maybe we can have a beer before, after or both, loser buys.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: PaulNewman on November 25, 2013, 08:51:25 PM
Have to come to the defense of my Loras friends here.

So we have a "Midwest Aficionado" who is a Camden fan and who is posting with the raw bravado of a very newly minted alum of some sort.

This isn't about who will win the game, but the logic offered is, to be generous, inane.  4-0-1 vs 5-1-2?  Seriously?

Loras is in two straight final fours with a 42-3-4 record and unarguably one of the stronger schedules in the country over those two years.  They lost in OT to the national champion.

What point exactly are you trying to make?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Saint of Old on November 25, 2013, 09:29:08 PM
Saw Loras play.
They are some ballas!
They have a strong history as well.
History is important "whatever man has done, men can do".

Both Loras and Rutgers must win a championship to cement their programs greatness.

Platini and Cantana were part or great eras, but, after '98 people talked about French football with much more respect!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 25, 2013, 09:39:00 PM
At this point Rutgers winning the Championship would be more of a one hit wonder than cementing a program, they don't have any history to back up this seasons success.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on November 25, 2013, 09:54:19 PM
I think MidwestClown is trying to generate some discussion here on the IIAC board...I mean, that's the only logical excuse behind his ill-informed tirade.

Go back to your NJAC forum if you're going to erroneously banter about the national semifinal match. Hope the crickets keep you company.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: convict on November 25, 2013, 10:27:56 PM
I'm hoping Loras wins. I've seen messiah and Rutgers Camden play live in the past two seasons. Time for a new champion. Never seen Williams on film and just a little bit of loras. Just seem like a classy program. Nobody has anything bad to say about them at all. Have been knocking on the door for a good couple of years. Seems to be the toughest schedule or close to it in the country too.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on November 26, 2013, 10:22:51 AM
Quote from: Puerco Espin on November 25, 2013, 09:54:19 PM
I think MidwestClown is trying to generate some discussion here on the IIAC board...I mean, that's the only logical excuse behind his ill-informed tirade.

Go back to your NJAC forum if you're going to erroneously banter about the national semifinal match. Hope the crickets keep you company.

Woaw woaw woaw, No need to be throwing the C word out like that. Tough guy.

20 bucks says it's Idaho's alt account.

I'm liking your confidence Midwest, means Loras will be up for a good game next weekend. Unfortunately, I won't be able to make it down to watch live. Would be a great game to see.

Since I don't know much about the players and it seems you know everything and all, how about rattling off some player stats and team formation for us here in the "just surviving" forum. Educate us a bit.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: MidwestAficionado on November 26, 2013, 11:00:30 AM
Keep piling on... You all are tremendous at jumping to conclusions.

I'm from the Midwest and went to a Division I school. Have absolutely no ties to Rutgers or NJ or any D3 institution for that matter. If any of you did your homework - which clearly you didn't - I've posted on two threads: this one and coaching changes. So you all hit that one out of the park.

As for Loras, I have an unbiased opinion. I'm not a homer on this board rooting for my alma mater or the school where my son played til death do us part. I watch D3 with a neutrality and a respect for successful programs, particularly those who attempt to play the beautiful game as intended. Loras I have high respect for, very elite program. But the final four is all about one game - not past, not respect, not anything. Its 90 minutes and my thoughts are Rutgers vs Messiah in the final.

When you've advanced by PKs, a 2-0 score, and a 2-1 score despite playing a cinderella and all the statistical domination you cite, I call that barely surviving. Based on your lopsided stats, sounds like they should have won each game 5-0. But guess what, they are +3 thru 3 games... So yes, to me that's barely surviving. Certainly wasn't comfortable. And for the record, soccer is not a stats sport. If there are two stats that dictate a game its possession and score. Everything else don't mean jack. This isn't American baseball.

You all continue to sit here and rip every sentence apart. That's great. I'm not engaging in it further.

Rutgers vs Messiah in the final
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on November 26, 2013, 11:03:35 AM
Quote from: KICKIN95 on November 25, 2013, 05:00:18 PM
Quote from: MidwestAficionado on November 25, 2013, 03:33:36 PM
Quote from: ldahoSoccer on November 25, 2013, 03:28:35 PM
Has to be GG's alternate account.

Nope, new to Division III Soccer but have really immersed myself in it the last 3 seasons. Just saying, if you've seen these teams out East they are on a different level.
So you are new to DIII soccer, but seem to have it all figured out.  I watched R-C play, a different level they are not.  If you have been immersed for 3 seasons than you must certainly recall last years semi final between Messiah and Loras.  Both teams battled with neither showing a strong advantage over the other.  Loras has a goal called back and another off the post in regulation before Messiah had a fortunate bounce off a block to win in OT.  Loras was given the 2nd place ranking in the nation after the tourney because of their abilities and because of how Messiah trounced ONU in the final.  So for you to say "as per usual" is an ill informed and uneducated statement to say the least.  Let's take it a step further and do some comparisons to your R-C team and Loras shall we?  How many times has R-C made the final 4? Oh this is their first hmmm, how many times have they even made the tourney, well it says here 4, that would less than half of Loras's 9 in which they reached the Sweet 16 7 of those and as stated in the previous sentence the Final 4 four times in the past 7 years and this year being a repeat appearance.  Ya better pay a bit more attention before speaking up about a team and their experience.  You think that possession teams are always the better side and "hockey line" tactics aren't up to your standards eh?  Well who is the most possession oriented team in the world today Jamaica, Nigeria?  How do they fare against teams such as the Dutch or England? I'll save you the time of looking, not to well.  Loras plays to their strengths and have the ability to posses or go direct, whichever works at the time.   I will conclude with directing you to the post below by Idaho in reference to your "Foot in Mouth" comment about who Loras has played to get here.  According to the NCAA they have played the toughest schedule in the nation that's who!

I have to comment of GG' alternate name of potatoPele that is golden!


Kickin, I call BS on you actually watching R-C play!  Saying they are not on a different level makes zero sense, because they have had almost identical records to Loras over the past three seasons; 58-5-7 vs 59-6-7.  Yet you go on stating how awesome Loras is by backing it up with a history lesson... Is Loras on a different level?  You can bring all the history you want with how many Final Fours Loras made that lost to a better team, most likely from the East.  Here is my history lesson, this is the NJACs 6th team reaching the FINAL FOUR.  The NJAC is hands down much better than the IIAC...  has any other team from the IIAC sniffed the final four? 

Rutgers-Camden is a young program that is slowly building itself.   If you want to make a somewhat legit comparison:

2011: 
Camden loses in Elite 8 to Oneonta State 2-1 in 2OT 
Loras loses 4-0 to Calvin in Round of 32 or Sweet 16?
Oneonta then loses to Calvin 4-2.

2012
Camden loses to York in PKs in Round of 32  (OMG York lost to Messiah in Pks too!!!)  So, like, Camden is like totally on same page as Loras!
Loras loses in 99th min to Messiah in semifinal.

2013
Camden dominates Lycoming, puts up 3 on York before they realize whats going on (Messiah failed to score on York), beats another ranked team in Montclair.
Loras goes to PKs vs Luther, plays kick and run vs Westminster, beats Trinity (was a nice equalizer in transition)....


The almighty Messiah scores 2 goals in 200 minutes vs Lycoming, whereas Camden puts up 4!  And you don't think Lycoming sat in on them as well? 

After watching a few of the Loras games, truth be told, there are some similarities in style and talent to Montclair St (Camden boasts a 3-1-1 record since 2011)


This will be the better game of the semifinals, and I truly believe whoever comes out of Loras vs Camden will be your new division III champion!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on November 26, 2013, 11:06:48 AM


Midwest,

I was waiting for that.   You mention East Coast, and the Loras faithful assume you are a Camden supporter/alumnus because you are not boasting about Messiah.   




Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Sirius90 on November 26, 2013, 11:21:26 AM
Now this I like. True animosity, alt accounts, name calling. Midwest'Clown', I like the cut of your jib, coming in here and ruffling some Duhawk feathers. Keep it up. Duhawkers, don't let this Jersey scum come in here and sully your thread!

I'm going to predict a close game, with RUC scoring early and holding on to win. From what little I've seen of Loras, they are fast, skilled, relatively direct attackers. York came into Camden a similarly athletic side, were very dangerous, but were unable to break through against a stout defense. The RUC counter is pretty lethal. The one reservation that I have is if they can connect on grass. They are very good at putting their opportunities on frame on home turf. Will a slightly choppy field reduce their accuracy in the final third? They will not get a lot of good chances against the Duhawks.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: cciwrabblerouser on November 26, 2013, 11:24:45 AM
KICKIN95 wrote:  You are nothing if not confident and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, but just because your team is having an indisputably great season doesn't make them the better team.  OWU can attest to that, Messiah can attest to that, Loras can attest to that, in '07 they were 23-0-2 and lost in PK's to eventual champion Middlebury.

History does indeed make a difference.  I guarantee you that Messiah will have the benefit of "We've done this before.  We know we CAN do this.  We will find a way.  We will win."  That's powerful belief.  However...

Anything can happen in this sport.  Kickin95 talked about Middlebury, perhaps the unlikeliest champion in D-III soccer history.  In 2007, Middlebury did not score a single goal in two Final Four contests ... in 220 minutes, Midd never broke the plane.  Yet they took home the championship trophy by outperforming its opponents in PKs.

All this to say...  No one is handing Messiah the trophy.  The other three teams have something BIG to prove.  So it should be a great tournament
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on November 26, 2013, 11:32:21 AM
Quote from: KICKIN95 on November 25, 2013, 09:39:00 PM
At this point Rutgers winning the Championship would be more of a one hit wonder than cementing a program, they don't have any history to back up this seasons success.


Well if Camden doesn't win the title, 0-1 in the final four definitely is better than 0-4...   That must suck to get there that much and fail because you were not prepared OR fail because you lost to a team that was better than you anyways. 

Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on November 26, 2013, 11:40:50 AM
Quote from: Sirius90 on November 26, 2013, 11:21:26 AM
Now this I like. True animosity, alt accounts, name calling. Midwest'Clown', I like the cut of your jib, coming in here and ruffling some Duhawk feathers. Keep it up. Duhawkers, don't let this Jersey scum come in here and sully your thread!

I'm going to predict a close game, with RUC scoring early and holding on to win. From what little I've seen of Loras, they are fast, skilled, relatively direct attackers. York came into Camden a similarly athletic side, were very dangerous, but were unable to break through against a stout defense. The RUC counter is pretty lethal. The one reservation that I have is if they can connect on grass. They are very good at putting their opportunities on frame on home turf. Will a slightly choppy field reduce their accuracy in the final third? They will not get a lot of good chances against the Duhawks.


The type of grass in the stadium vs Camden's newer turf shouldn't be a factor.   Have you seen the photos... if only booze was allowed to be served at the stadium, I'd be in the beer garden....
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: casualfan on November 26, 2013, 11:41:51 AM
With the game being played on grass at Toyota Field in San Antonio, will that affect the Duhawks play? I seem to remember many of the Duhawk faithful saying this year's team was worse on grass. Have they overcome this problem or will it be a factor??
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on November 26, 2013, 11:52:59 AM


The grass looks very well maintained, doubt it will be a problem for either school.   
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on November 26, 2013, 12:00:44 PM
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on November 26, 2013, 11:52:59 AM


The grass looks very well maintained, doubt it will be a problem for either school.

Agreed.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: PaulNewman on November 26, 2013, 12:04:15 PM
lastguy, sorry, but 0-4 is definitely better than 0-1 when we're talking final four.  That means you made it to the final four 4 times.  Not even a close argument.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 26, 2013, 12:08:11 PM
Really you are calling me a liar? Very mature of you.  Read the original quote " if you've seen these teams out East they are on a different level."  He is stating that the teams out East are on a different level.   I have watched R-C play and they are a very good team, but to say that the teams out East are a different level? Come on. Did I say a Loras was a different level, nope never did, I just stated the facts.  "Here is my history lesson, this is the NJACs 6th team reaching the FINAL FOUR.  The NJAC is hands down much better than the IIAC...  has any other team from the IIAC sniffed the final four?    (Well yes, Wartburg has been to the Elite 8 a few times, so that is within a "sniff" I would say).  So if I talk about a schools history it's garbage, but yet you turn around and wax poetic about the NJAC and their "history" the next sentence?  Top to bottom the NJAC is a better conference, now let me give you a bit of education in return.  How many teams did the NJAC get in this season (3), how many did the IIAC get in (3) well that's 3 each, hands down better, hmmm?  Well I am sure it is all because the North Region and Midwest in general is just so much easier and about 3 or 4 other excuses that you will rebut with.  So I would say that the top 2 maybe 3 teams in IIAC are on the same level as the NJAC's top 2-3 any given year, you go beyond that and I have no doubt the NJAC is stronger.   Transitive Properties in soccer doesn't really work, any team can get hot and score at any given time there are too many factors to contend with. 
I also think this semifinals match will be the "one to watch" and agree with you that the winner will come from this side.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on November 26, 2013, 12:10:05 PM


It's called sarcasm, Kickin.... and I was laying it pretty thick.

Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on November 26, 2013, 12:11:08 PM
Another point that is not on a stat sheet is the fact that Loras came back from being down 1-0 in an Elite Eight game. That is a tall task to do.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 26, 2013, 12:11:51 PM
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on November 26, 2013, 12:10:05 PM


It's called sarcasm, Kickin.... and I was laying it pretty thick.
My bad for not picking it up, I am muti tasking right now.  Working, drinking coffee, and working. Better lay off the working and stick to the coffee!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: ldahoSoccer on November 26, 2013, 02:09:21 PM
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on November 26, 2013, 11:32:21 AM
Quote from: KICKIN95 on November 25, 2013, 09:39:00 PM
At this point Rutgers winning the Championship would be more of a one hit wonder than cementing a program, they don't have any history to back up this seasons success.


Well if Camden doesn't win the title, 0-1 in the final four definitely is better than 0-4...   That must suck to get there that much and fail because you were not prepared OR fail because you lost to a team that was better than you anyways.

Even if this was a joke, it was not accurate.  If Loras were to lose next Friday (which I do not think will happen), they would be 0-3-1.   ;D
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on November 26, 2013, 02:38:33 PM
Quote from: ldahoSoccer on November 26, 2013, 02:09:21 PM
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on November 26, 2013, 11:32:21 AM
Quote from: KICKIN95 on November 25, 2013, 09:39:00 PM
At this point Rutgers winning the Championship would be more of a one hit wonder than cementing a program, they don't have any history to back up this seasons success.


Well if Camden doesn't win the title, 0-1 in the final four definitely is better than 0-4...   That must suck to get there that much and fail because you were not prepared OR fail because you lost to a team that was better than you anyways.

Even if this was a joke, it was not accurate.  If Loras were to lose next Friday (which I do not think will happen), they would be 0-3-1.   ;D


Haha, that it was.  Obviously a 4th final four is a great accomplishment by a program and or coaching staff.   For some/most, it's a once in a lifetime thing.     However, if it were to happen in the Championship, I believe it counts as a "Loss"  Ask Stevens Tech after the Messiah super sub came in and stopped 3 PKs in a row...

I am friends with a few of the staff on Rutgers-Camden, I think it's safe to say their goal is make sure Loras goes 0-4-1!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: ldahoSoccer on November 26, 2013, 02:56:12 PM
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on November 26, 2013, 02:38:33 PM
Quote from: ldahoSoccer on November 26, 2013, 02:09:21 PM
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on November 26, 2013, 11:32:21 AM
Quote from: KICKIN95 on November 25, 2013, 09:39:00 PM
At this point Rutgers winning the Championship would be more of a one hit wonder than cementing a program, they don't have any history to back up this seasons success.


Well if Camden doesn't win the title, 0-1 in the final four definitely is better than 0-4...   That must suck to get there that much and fail because you were not prepared OR fail because you lost to a team that was better than you anyways.

Even if this was a joke, it was not accurate.  If Loras were to lose next Friday (which I do not think will happen), they would be 0-3-1.   ;D


Haha, that it was.  Obviously a 4th final four is a great accomplishment by a program and or coaching staff.   For some/most, it's a once in a lifetime thing.     However, if it were to happen in the Championship, I believe it counts as a "Loss"  Ask Stevens Tech after the Messiah super sub came in and stopped 3 PKs in a row...

I am friends with a few of the staff on Rutgers-Camden, I think it's safe to say their goal is make sure Loras goes 0-4-1!

I think you mean 0-3-1.  But anyways your substance is correct, it is a tie if you lose in PKs in the semifinals.  But it is a loss if you lose in PKs in the finals (as Stevens found out)...
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on November 26, 2013, 03:22:36 PM
Yes, that is correct, IdahoSoccer.   Long day...   

I remember watching all of those games on the live feed when Loras was there in 08.  Nick Blossey comes in and becomes a hero, yet the video isn't even on youtube or Messiahs site.  Also remember JD Binger becoming another hero during that run when he scored a goal vs CNU with about a minute or so left to force overtime...
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Ambush004 on November 26, 2013, 04:10:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbsW8LZoZ-o

Let the critique begin.  Understood it is 1 game, and Rutgers-Camden has a good team from the highlights and games I have watched.  Duhawk Defense will eat these forwards up all game long.  Duhawks will find trouble scoring on the grass surface and getting through the defense of Rutgers-Camden.

Loras 1
Rutgers 0
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on November 26, 2013, 04:23:06 PM
I would love to hear all of the Loras fans detailed recaps (formation, stand out players, players to look out for that come off the bench, strengths, weaknesses, etc.) of the games they have all watched of Rutgers-Camden. 

Also, what other teams on the east coast do you watch on a regular basis?



Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Ambush004 on November 26, 2013, 04:30:19 PM
# 25 in Rutgers defense is a very good player and will be hard to beat in the air/ground... Do you want more?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on November 26, 2013, 04:32:19 PM
Quote from: Ambush004 on November 26, 2013, 04:30:19 PM
# 25 in Rutgers defense is a very good player and will be hard to beat in the air/ground... Do you want more?

Yes, as Loras plays with 11 players I am sure this Mighty Rutgers team does too. Unless they play a man or two down every game, then I'd say that would be impressive to have an unbeaten record.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on November 26, 2013, 06:13:49 PM
Took a look at that game film from their match against TCNJ and here are some things I gathered:

1. Two primary center backs stay back while outside backs play up in midfield at times
2. One player will often pressure, but I didn't see pressure from multiple players at once.
3. Suspect to quick build up; after RC scored, TCNJ came right off the kickoff and earned a corner by going right at RC
4. GK is quick to roll ball out to one of his center backs as opposed to punting it deep
5. 4-5-1...low pressure when opponent is in defensive third
6. Backline likes to stay spread out, forcing the ball to the outside
7. Buildup usually comes through midfield with short passes, but when trying to counter, will send a long ball forward and have a forward run under it.
8. They don't sub a whole lot...15 guys in their Elite 8 game...Mike Ryan (21G) played 87/90 minutes...

But the GK does take his own kicks...
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on November 27, 2013, 10:49:55 AM

Does anyone know if the semifinal matches will have a live feed?   

Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: ldahoSoccer on November 27, 2013, 10:58:28 AM
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on November 27, 2013, 10:49:55 AM

Does anyone know if the semifinal matches will have a live feed?   

There is a "watch live" button in the interactive bracket at ncaa.com, if you click on the semifinal matches.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on November 27, 2013, 11:25:34 AM

They must have changed it or my dumbass missed the big box in the the middle yesterday when I looked.    I believe when I voted it was 60% Loras/40% Camden.   Now at 55% Loras/ 45% Camden.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Cheesehead Henry on November 29, 2013, 07:55:36 PM
Damn i missed all the fun and arguing. Although i do have to mention someone's quote about stats not meaning anything in soccer towards future games. Good point. Everyone carry on..
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Medicated Pete on December 01, 2013, 05:58:24 PM
Duhawk Rally Towels on the way... (https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs29.postimg.org%2Fr7xpmkqcn%2FRALLYTWL.png&hash=d135286f2c9637af74b002f4ad5946a3fc79674e).. and the countdown begins..5 days to San Antonio!!
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on December 01, 2013, 11:02:25 PM
Dibs on one of those Medicated.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Cheesehead Henry on December 06, 2013, 08:45:00 PM
Whoa Dylan!? What happened?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Medicated Pete on December 07, 2013, 01:28:59 AM
Missed Obvious handball..Ball Never crossed fully over the goal line..and a blunder at the end..
Great Season lads..Well played game by both..unfortunate to see the Duhawks season end...

Time for some top notch Lone Star & BBQ  ::)
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: doolittledog on December 07, 2013, 10:51:00 AM
Congratulations on a great season, Loras.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: PaulNewman on December 07, 2013, 11:27:11 AM
Doolittledog, love your tagline and "stay thirsty my friends."  "He once parallel parked a train."

I feel terrible for you Loras guys.  I have absolutely no affiliation with Loras but I started following the team this year and am just crushed that they lost and especially the way they lost.  I thought they showed great collegiate spirit in hanging in there after so many chances produced no goals, and they really looked like they were in the clear after taking the lead.  I thought the ball on replay DID cross the line by an inch or two, but should have never happened.  Really wanted to see a Loras-Messiah final too.  For my money Loras is currently the #2 D3 program in the country -- Messiah, Loras, OWU.

Great career for Cavers.  A truly special player, especially for his size and slight build.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Saint of Old on December 07, 2013, 01:57:37 PM
Great game to watch.
The entire Loras team should be proud. It is not easy to win, but this team is close, and they know it.

A championship means historical immortality.

Rutgers could enter this special club, and doing it with the streak intact and beating the great squad from PA would prove their quality.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on December 09, 2013, 10:36:13 AM
Sorry this is coming a few days late, I don't post on the weekends traditionally.  I caught the Loras/Rutgers game and here are my thoughts...  Rutgers-Camden was probably the least likeable team I have watched play in the 5+ years.  They were very chippy and they were constantly on the refs case after each individual call.  It is too bad the ref didnt throw out a card for dissent early on to get them to chill out.  Rutgers looked pretty strong to start the game but as the match wore on it was all Loras.  Rutgers first goal was pretty fortunate (deflection turning into a right place at the right time moment for the goalscorer who tucked the ball home nicely.  The last 15 minutes of this game was crazy, but was fun to watch as an outsider with no affiliation to either school.  The first Loras goal was very opportunistic.  I thought that the Rutgers keeper was pretty solid for the most part all weekend long but he shouldn't have been beaten near post on a shot from 20 yards.  The second Loras goal is the kind of goal you would've expected them to be scoring in this match.  Rutgers "scored" the equalizer to make it 2-2 with a few minutes remaining.  After watching the goal and the replay of the goal I was still unable to determine whether the ball crossed the line... Now on to the game winner for RC.  Whether there is a 30MPH wind or not this ball shouldn't be going in the net.  It looked like the keeper judged the players body language on going for the ball and came forward instead of reacting where the ball was going and just camping on his line. 

In the end, both IIAC teams in the Sweet 16 (Loras/Wartburg) were elminated or their elimination was aided by fairly significant goalkeeper errors.  Congrats to the IIAC, again, on an excellent overall season as a conference. 
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: MidwestAficionado on March 08, 2014, 01:40:32 AM
Quote from: MidwestAficionado on November 26, 2013, 11:00:30 AM
Rutgers vs Messiah in the final

Still haven't heard from anybody... What happened?

Was my logic unfounded? Or maybe I backpedalled too quick?

Who the clown now... All you Tommy tough guys.

8-)
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on March 13, 2014, 10:25:38 PM
It took you 3 months to come up with that?  Tommy tough guys, I smell guido...
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: MidwestAficionado on March 17, 2014, 04:47:11 PM
Quote from: KICKIN95 on March 13, 2014, 10:25:38 PM
It took you 3 months to come up with that?  Tommy tough guys, I smell guido...
Someone made a prediction and was right, that's all. Got bashed up and down for an accurate prediction... I get my say.

What does 2014 have in store for the Duhawks? Still hockey lines or something new on its way?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on March 18, 2014, 02:26:01 PM
I think we can expect a similar style, their depth is going to be a great asset again for the upcoming season.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: MidwestAficionado on March 18, 2014, 07:08:39 PM
Quote from: KICKIN95 on March 18, 2014, 02:26:01 PM
I think we can expect a similar style, their depth is going to be a great asset again for the upcoming season.

Any elaboration?

Live after Cavers & Figura? Change at GK? Younger players to watch out for?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on March 22, 2014, 05:08:24 PM
Same style. Same depth.

Won't be easy to replace the national defensive player of the year, but it can and will be done. Cavers' departure will allow for a new face to step into the role.

Loras landed a kid out of the Chicago Magic program. (https://twitter.com/ussoccer_ynt/status/431480703046275074/photo/1)

August can't come soon enough.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on March 22, 2014, 06:19:47 PM
Will Loras be playing any d1 or d2 teams during spring season?   
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on March 24, 2014, 03:50:13 PM
Yes, they will be playing D1 Western Illinois, not sure of the exact date.   
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: MidwestAficionado on April 04, 2014, 12:45:50 AM
Quote from: Puerco Espin on March 22, 2014, 05:08:24 PM
Same style. Same depth.

Won't be easy to replace the national defensive player of the year, but it can and will be done. Cavers' departure will allow for a new face to step into the role.

Loras landed a kid out of the Chicago Magic program. (https://twitter.com/ussoccer_ynt/status/431480703046275074/photo/1)

August can't come soon enough.

So you offer no details but no worries, your firm words instill blind confidence!

Magic player will make for a nice reserve guy, as he does currently: http://ussda.demosphere.com/teams/60852305/47187453-60852393/TEAM.html

Anything more particular you can provide the D3 Soccer community?
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: PickettStreetParty on May 08, 2014, 11:02:18 AM
The magic kid will push for starting time for the varsity team. Spencer comes from a good high school and area of soccer. Im looking forward to watching him over the next four years.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on May 19, 2014, 06:02:26 PM
A reserve guy? I'd give him a little more credit...

3x All-Conference (ESCC)
2x 1st Team All-State
ESCC Co-MVP (2013)

Obviously he'll have to adjust to the style that Loras plays, but the kid has the potential to be a strong addition to the purple & gold.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: MidwestAficionado on May 19, 2014, 06:28:21 PM
Quote from: Puerco Espin on May 19, 2014, 06:02:26 PM
A reserve guy? I'd give him a little more credit...

3x All-Conference (ESCC)
2x 1st Team All-State
ESCC Co-MVP (2013)

Obviously he'll have to adjust to the style that Loras plays, but the kid has the potential to be a strong addition to the purple & gold.

Have you seen him play or you just basing your proclamations on HS awards? He's a talented player with much potential. Unfortunately he's the same player he was when he was 16. If you saw him in the State semi finals his junior year, he was the 6th or 7th best player on the field. Playing a small school from central IL, in the middle division of IL HS soccer.

Just saying, good player, good pedigree, good club, but not someone who is going to arrive at college soccer and be an impact guy on one of the nation's top D3 programs.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: PickettStreetParty on May 20, 2014, 12:45:50 AM
Loras plays 30 guys a game so if he makes varsity he will make some impact... More so than 98% of college freshman.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: KingDuhawk on May 20, 2014, 07:23:31 PM
Loras Men's Soccer Releases 2014 Schedule // http://www.duhawks.com/article/1296.php
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on May 22, 2014, 01:33:33 PM

Strong schedule...
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Midwest Soccer on May 24, 2014, 01:01:34 AM
"Being able to play a school like Drake is huge for us because a lot of times we're recruiting against them," Rothert said. "For us to be able to say to a future recruit 'Hey, we beat this team you're looking at even though we're Division III,' can be a big selling point."

IMO, players don't choose the college you go to and ultimately earn your degree from based on winning a pre-season soccer game. The same can be said if they lost that game too, I doubt a recruit will say "Hmm Loras lost to Drake, I guess I need to go to Drake now." You make your selection based off a million other things like the culture of the programs (I'd venture to guess there's a better soccer culture at Loras), where can you get on the field quicker, do they have my major, etc.. I agree that it's a big selling point for Loras to play Division 1 teams in pre-season, that always gets the team pumped up because you feel like you have so much to prove but to say that pre-season game has big recruiting implications is a bit ridiculous IMO.

"We whole-heartedly believe that we are a Division I soccer program participating at a Division III school."

How do you figure that you're a Division 1 program Coach Rothert?

Bottom line: You're not a Division 1 soccer program.

- Can you beat some of them? Absolutely Yes.
- Do you have players that were recruited by D1 schools? Yes.
- Are you a D1 program? No.

I'm sure Coach Rothert runs great trainings but just because you run a good training and have a culture and identity within your program and are capable of knocking off some D1 teams doesn't make you a "Division 1 program". All in all, I HUGELY respect what Loras has done over the last 8 years. However, you still haven't gotten over the Final 4 hump so to call yourself a Division 1 program is a stretch and a bit arrogant for my taste. I'd love to hear the reasoning for why we should consider Loras a Division 1 program. (I hope it's more than "we beat Drake in a pre-season game 4-3 the year after they went to the elite 8).
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on May 24, 2014, 12:04:06 PM
How many Division I programs are complete garbage? For a Division III program to play at the Division I level, they don't need to win conference championships or national championships.

You're correct that Loras has yet to get over the Final Four hump, but I don't feel that disqualifies them from the idea of being able to compete at the Division I level. Just as you say it's arrogant for Loras to believe that they are a Division I program at a Division III school, it's just as pompous to say they don't belong.

Discount the Drake game all you want for it being preseason. Understandable. Do you believe that Western Illinois is going to bend over and just not care about their match on October 13?

Even though Western was 6-13 in 2013, 10 of their 13 losses came by a single goal. In 2012, they advanced to the second round of the NCAA Tournament before falling to Wisconsin. Are they a top tier Division I program? No, but I don't think anyone is trying to say that they are.

And one last little tidbit ...

8x Iowa Conference Champions
9x NCAA Tournament Qualifier (All consecutive)
3x NCAA Sweet 16
4x NCAA Final Four

In 17 seasons as the men's head coach, Rothert has a career record of 255-86-19, which equates to a .735 winning percentage.

Since 2007, Loras Men have gone 138-22-12, totaling 20 wins in four of the seven seasons.

Are there coaches out there that have stronger records? Sure (McCarty, Brandt, Martin), but I think he's got some room to be confident.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on May 24, 2014, 06:09:04 PM
Having a D1 school on your schedule is a lot better looking than having some scrub team on your schedule for a D3 program. It's something that the recruiting staff can point at and say, "We want to compete against better programs all the time to make our team a better program. We want our players to compete against better players to make themselves a better player. We think you are a player who can do that and we want you a part of what we are doing."

You're right Loras has a phenomenal soccer culture and to keep that culture vibrant you mustn't be complacent and play the same teams over and over but mix it up a bit and grow the culture. By competing against D1 programs, who have a bigger net to cast to recruit talent no matter the school, you do that. And in my opinion, competing against higher level programs at a higher level and having your end goal of a national championship every year is #1, #2, #3 on all soccer kids list followed by how pretty the campus looks and if they have the useless major you want to take and then change from after year two...

Rothert saying Loras is a D1 program in D3 is all about mentality. If you don't honestly believe you are that good and that you can win against D1 programs than you shouldn't even walk into the locker room day 1 of spring training. What does it take to be a D1 program? Winning a national championship in a lower league??? No, a bunch of bureaucratic mumbo jumbo. But thank you for pointing out that Loras really is in the Third Division of the NCAA....

What team do you cheer for anyways Midwest??? I feel there's some bad blood behind that keyboard of yours :'( 
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Midwest Soccer on May 24, 2014, 10:22:23 PM
I cheer for everyone. It just bothers me that good D3 programs feel the need to compare themselves to Division 1 programs publicly. Some things that are said in the locker room should stay there. That mentality of being better than D1 schools is absolutely necessary and in the locker room you preach that as much as you can cause it's part of your culture. Completely agree with you that if you don't have that mentality then don't show up for training cause you don't belong at 1 of the better programs. It just comes off like a little napoleon complex/arrogant to me to publicly say that. You don't see McCarty, Brandt, Martin (simply to name the coaches you used) publicly saying the same things.

These are simply just my opinions. I have no bad blood towards Loras. I root for any teams from the Midwest.

I would have said all those same things to any other D3 program that said the same thing, Rothert's quotes were just readily available.



Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on May 25, 2014, 12:10:44 PM
http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?s=csoc2013&sub=12801

Subjective mumbo jumbo... Loras was ranked 116, Drake 117 across all
Divisions.

   
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: PaulNewman on May 25, 2014, 02:06:44 PM
Interesting list.

Top 25 D3s on list as follows.

Messiah
Rutgers-C
Amherst
Loras
OWU
Trinity (TX)
Montclair St
York
Williams
Franklin & Marshall
Stevens
Salisbury
Kenyon
Rochester
Dickinson
St Lawrence
Wartburg
Calvin
DePauw
Rutgers-N
Carnegie Mellon
Wheaton (Ill)
Hope
Luther
Ohio Northern

Next 10 includes Oberlin, Randolph, Carleton, Bowdoin, Conn College, Misericordia, GAC, WI Oshkosh, Brandeis, Coll of NJ
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Madhatter5 on May 28, 2014, 01:00:34 PM
Some things that are said in a locker room should stay in the locker room. This is not something that needs to be so. If Rothert thinks his program is skilled, confident, and mentally strong enough to be a D1 program than that's good to hear as a former player, current player, and prospective player. Unfortunately, or fortunately however you want to look at it, there is no real way to adequately gage that or prove that besides what he believes.

You not having a team you support is another story I won't get into but did you at least play/involved in a collegiate sport?

Nice to see according to that massey ratings that Loras is above a large amount of D1 schools.
Title: Re: IIAC 2013
Post by: Midwest Soccer on May 29, 2014, 10:41:46 AM
Yes, I played college soccer. You could say I root for NCAC teams more-so than others but I enjoy seeing midwest teams do well when it comes to the tournament.