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Re: MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #43980 on: February 16, 2017, 03:15:29 pm »
Quite a different story at De Vos last night.  Worst game I've watched in quite a while - completely dead atmosphere - just blah!!!.  Hope shot 35.6% from the floor, got out rebounded by 14, yet somehow found a way to win.  Even one of the few things they did well (16 steals leading to a total of 26 TO for Kzoo) didn't produce what you might expect - only 15 points scored on 26 TOs.  Kzoo score the same 15 pts off of only 12 Hope TOs. 

Combine the poor shooting (Kzoo shot 42%) with all the steals and TOs, and 51 fouls called and it was a game with no flow and it was  U - G - L - Y, you ain't got no alibi...
Watching the video it just didn't look like a game at De Vos.  Didn't check the attendance, but the number of empty seats seemed much higher than normal.  The game reminded me of the "old days" when Defiance was in the MIAA with that style of play.
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Re: MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #43981 on: February 16, 2017, 03:28:22 pm »
Sounds like the play-in game is a thing. 
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Re: MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #43982 on: February 16, 2017, 03:36:51 pm »
Sounds like the play-in game is a thing.

So then what are our scenarios?

If Albion (vs. Trine) and Alma (vs. Olivet) both lose, they'll play the tiebreaker game for the No. 4 seed.

If Albion and Alma both win, we'll have the three-way triangle with Trine, Alma, and Albion at 8-6 and all going 1-1 against each other. Would Trine simply be eliminated by their 0-2 record vs. Calvin (0-4 vs. teams ranked ahead), or would we get some other tiebreaker to name a No. 3 seed with the other two playing in?
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Re: MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #43983 on: February 16, 2017, 04:15:19 pm »
Quite a different story at De Vos last night.  Worst game I've watched in quite a while - completely dead atmosphere - just blah!!!.  Hope shot 35.6% from the floor, got out rebounded by 14, yet somehow found a way to win.  Even one of the few things they did well (16 steals leading to a total of 26 TO for Kzoo) didn't produce what you might expect - only 15 points scored on 26 TOs.  Kzoo score the same 15 pts off of only 12 Hope TOs. 

Combine the poor shooting (Kzoo shot 42%) with all the steals and TOs, and 51 fouls called and it was a game with no flow and it was  U - G - L - Y, you ain't got no alibi...
Watching the video it just didn't look like a game at De Vos.  Didn't check the attendance, but the number of empty seats seemed much higher than normal.  The game reminded me of the "old days" when Defiance was in the MIAA with that style of play.

I had the same thought.  Attendance was 1789
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Re: MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #43984 on: February 16, 2017, 05:15:26 pm »
Sounds like the play-in game is a thing.

So then what are our scenarios?

If Albion (vs. Trine) and Alma (vs. Olivet) both lose, they'll play the tiebreaker game for the No. 4 seed.

If Albion and Alma both win, we'll have the three-way triangle with Trine, Alma, and Albion at 8-6 and all going 1-1 against each other. Would Trine simply be eliminated by their 0-2 record vs. Calvin (0-4 vs. teams ranked ahead), or would we get some other tiebreaker to name a No. 3 seed with the other two playing in?

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Trine win, Alma win   Trine is 3rd seed, Alma 4th seed
Trine win, Alma loss  Trine is 3rd seed, Alma/Albion either have a play-in game or Alma wins tie-breaker by beating Trine
Albion win, Alma win  3-way tie Trine, Albion, Alma, all 3 went 2-2 vs each other.  Albion and Alma both beat Calvin eliminating Trine.  Albion is 3 seed by beating Olivet twice, Alma 4th seed
Albion win, Alma loss  Albion/Trine tie for 3rd, Albion wins tie-break by beating Calvin.  Albion 3rd seed, Trine 4th seed


In that scenario of Trine win Alma loss, Albion would host the play-in game against Alma on Wednesday night
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Re: MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #43985 on: February 16, 2017, 05:32:32 pm »
Whittling down all-league, in no particular order, these are mine.  No Kzoo guy has stats better than anyone I've listed.

Trevor Gernaat, Alma
Corey Wheeler, Albion
Jason Zahran, Albion
DeVonte Harris, Adrian
Justin Webster, Adrian
Cam Denny, Calvin
Michael Wilks, Calvin
Harrison Blackledge, Hope
Dante Hawkins, Hope
Chad  Carlson, Hope
Eric Ewing, Olivet
Aaron Washington, Olivet
Will Dixon, Trine
Kyle Dodson, Trine

Think I'd go with Gernaat, Blackledge, Hawkins, Ewing, Dixon, Wilks maybe for first team. 

Blackledge is probably MVP.
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Re: MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #43986 on: February 16, 2017, 06:44:55 pm »
The Division III season has officially entered "Crunch Time." Regular season schedules are wrapping up, conference tournaments are about to begin, teams are jockeying for conference position or trying to win home-court advantage. And it is all happening the uncertainty of whether NCAA tournament berths are available for a lot of teams.

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Re: MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #43987 on: February 16, 2017, 08:22:33 pm »
Using Massey game probabilities, here are the chances of the MIAA's five remaining teams to make the conference tournament / reach the tournament final / win the tournament title.

Hope:   100% / 89% / 76%
Calvin: 100% / 54% / 10%
Trine:   68% / 32% /  7%
Alma:    81% /  8% /  3%
Albion:  51% / 18% /  3%
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Re: MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #43988 on: February 16, 2017, 10:38:20 pm »
Hoopsville interview with Hope's Greg Mitchell, starts at about 1:09:00
http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/index

One small correction for Dave.  Hope and Calvin are locked into their respective seeding spots in the MIAA Tournament.  The game will have no impact on final conference standings.
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Re: MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #43989 on: February 16, 2017, 11:59:22 pm »
Hoopsville interview with Hope's Greg Mitchell, starts at about 1:09:00
http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/index

One small correction for Dave.  Hope and Calvin are locked into their respective seeding spots in the MIAA Tournament.  The game will have no impact on final conference standings.

Thanks for the link, and time marker.

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Re: MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #43990 on: February 17, 2017, 10:22:47 am »
Anyone have a ticket available for tomorrow's game?
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Re: MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #43991 on: February 18, 2017, 12:07:48 pm »
For the first time ever I will be attending a Calvin/Hope satellite TV party (in Phoenix). Since my sister-in-law is the local host, I have been pressed into service to help with the party accommodations. This means blowing up party balloons, half of which are Hope College's. Since the event is supposed to be a joint affair, I'll do my best to be even-handed when blowing hot air but no guarantees.

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Re: MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #43992 on: February 18, 2017, 12:19:17 pm »
For the first time ever I will be attending a Calvin/Hope satellite TV party (in Phoenix). Since my sister-in-law is the local host, I have been pressed into service to help with the party accommodations. This means blowing up party balloons, half of which are Hope College's. Since the event is supposed to be a joint affair, I'll do my best to be even-handed when blowing hot air but no guarantees.

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Re: MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #43993 on: February 18, 2017, 01:23:10 pm »
Sounds like the play-in game is a thing.

So then what are our scenarios?

If Albion (vs. Trine) and Alma (vs. Olivet) both lose, they'll play the tiebreaker game for the No. 4 seed.

If Albion and Alma both win, we'll have the three-way triangle with Trine, Alma, and Albion at 8-6 and all going 1-1 against each other. Would Trine simply be eliminated by their 0-2 record vs. Calvin (0-4 vs. teams ranked ahead), or would we get some other tiebreaker to name a No. 3 seed with the other two playing in?

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I think this is right.
Trine win, Alma win   Trine is 3rd seed, Alma 4th seed
Trine win, Alma loss  Trine is 3rd seed, Alma/Albion either have a play-in game or Alma wins tie-breaker by beating Trine
Albion win, Alma win  3-way tie Trine, Albion, Alma, all 3 went 2-2 vs each other.  Albion and Alma both beat Calvin eliminating Trine.  Albion is 3 seed by beating Olivet twice, Alma 4th seed
Albion win, Alma loss  Albion/Trine tie for 3rd, Albion wins tie-break by beating Calvin.  Albion 3rd seed, Trine 4th seed


In that scenario of Trine win Alma loss, Albion would host the play-in game against Alma on Wednesday night
What causes the play in game to be at Albion?

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Re: MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #43994 on: February 18, 2017, 05:15:10 pm »
Can anyone make a free throw?  ::) ::)