MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

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KnightSlappy

As sac correctly notes, Calvin's win combined with Trine's win gives the Knights the No. 2 seed for the MIAA Tournament.

Calvin got an excellent game from Tony Canonie who finished with a career-high 17 points on 7-8 shooting (3-3 from the arc!). He also dished out 6 assists, came away with three steals, and blocked a shot.

I haven't looked back, but the 63% effective field goal percentage might be Calvin's best shooting night of the season.

Flying Dutch Fan

Quite a different story at De Vos last night.  Worst game I've watched in quite a while - completely dead atmosphere - just blah!!!.  Hope shot 35.6% from the floor, got out rebounded by 14, yet somehow found a way to win.  Even one of the few things they did well (16 steals leading to a total of 26 TO for Kzoo) didn't produce what you might expect - only 15 points scored on 26 TOs.  Kzoo score the same 15 pts off of only 12 Hope TOs. 

Combine the poor shooting (Kzoo shot 42%) with all the steals and TOs, and 51 fouls called and it was a game with no flow and it was  U - G - L - Y, you ain't got no alibi...
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almcguirejr

Quote from: Flying Dutch Fan on February 16, 2017, 12:29:51 PM
Quite a different story at De Vos last night.  Worst game I've watched in quite a while - completely dead atmosphere - just blah!!!.  Hope shot 35.6% from the floor, got out rebounded by 14, yet somehow found a way to win.  Even one of the few things they did well (16 steals leading to a total of 26 TO for Kzoo) didn't produce what you might expect - only 15 points scored on 26 TOs.  Kzoo score the same 15 pts off of only 12 Hope TOs. 

Combine the poor shooting (Kzoo shot 42%) with all the steals and TOs, and 51 fouls called and it was a game with no flow and it was  U - G - L - Y, you ain't got no alibi...

Kalamazoo is very physical. They are big and slow. They dare officials to call fouls on them.  They lead the league with an average of 23 fouls per game. They want an ugly game because that plays to their strength.

HopeConvert

Quote from: Flying Dutch Fan on February 16, 2017, 12:29:51 PM
Quite a different story at De Vos last night.  Worst game I've watched in quite a while - completely dead atmosphere - just blah!!!.  Hope shot 35.6% from the floor, got out rebounded by 14, yet somehow found a way to win.  Even one of the few things they did well (16 steals leading to a total of 26 TO for Kzoo) didn't produce what you might expect - only 15 points scored on 26 TOs.  Kzoo score the same 15 pts off of only 12 Hope TOs. 

Combine the poor shooting (Kzoo shot 42%) with all the steals and TOs, and 51 fouls called and it was a game with no flow and it was  U - G - L - Y, you ain't got no alibi...

An utterly unpleasant experience. If that game was not an insult to public taste, then public taste is incapable of insult.
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realist

Quote from: Flying Dutch Fan on February 16, 2017, 12:29:51 PM
Quite a different story at De Vos last night.  Worst game I've watched in quite a while - completely dead atmosphere - just blah!!!.  Hope shot 35.6% from the floor, got out rebounded by 14, yet somehow found a way to win.  Even one of the few things they did well (16 steals leading to a total of 26 TO for Kzoo) didn't produce what you might expect - only 15 points scored on 26 TOs.  Kzoo score the same 15 pts off of only 12 Hope TOs. 

Combine the poor shooting (Kzoo shot 42%) with all the steals and TOs, and 51 fouls called and it was a game with no flow and it was  U - G - L - Y, you ain't got no alibi...
Watching the video it just didn't look like a game at De Vos.  Didn't check the attendance, but the number of empty seats seemed much higher than normal.  The game reminded me of the "old days" when Defiance was in the MIAA with that style of play.
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sac


KnightSlappy

Quote from: sac on February 16, 2017, 03:28:22 PM
Sounds like the play-in game is a thing.

So then what are our scenarios?

If Albion (vs. Trine) and Alma (vs. Olivet) both lose, they'll play the tiebreaker game for the No. 4 seed.

If Albion and Alma both win, we'll have the three-way triangle with Trine, Alma, and Albion at 8-6 and all going 1-1 against each other. Would Trine simply be eliminated by their 0-2 record vs. Calvin (0-4 vs. teams ranked ahead), or would we get some other tiebreaker to name a No. 3 seed with the other two playing in?

Flying Dutch Fan

Quote from: realist on February 16, 2017, 03:15:29 PM
Quote from: Flying Dutch Fan on February 16, 2017, 12:29:51 PM
Quite a different story at De Vos last night.  Worst game I've watched in quite a while - completely dead atmosphere - just blah!!!.  Hope shot 35.6% from the floor, got out rebounded by 14, yet somehow found a way to win.  Even one of the few things they did well (16 steals leading to a total of 26 TO for Kzoo) didn't produce what you might expect - only 15 points scored on 26 TOs.  Kzoo score the same 15 pts off of only 12 Hope TOs. 

Combine the poor shooting (Kzoo shot 42%) with all the steals and TOs, and 51 fouls called and it was a game with no flow and it was  U - G - L - Y, you ain't got no alibi...
Watching the video it just didn't look like a game at De Vos.  Didn't check the attendance, but the number of empty seats seemed much higher than normal.  The game reminded me of the "old days" when Defiance was in the MIAA with that style of play.

I had the same thought.  Attendance was 1789
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sac

Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 16, 2017, 03:36:51 PM
Quote from: sac on February 16, 2017, 03:28:22 PM
Sounds like the play-in game is a thing.

So then what are our scenarios?

If Albion (vs. Trine) and Alma (vs. Olivet) both lose, they'll play the tiebreaker game for the No. 4 seed.

If Albion and Alma both win, we'll have the three-way triangle with Trine, Alma, and Albion at 8-6 and all going 1-1 against each other. Would Trine simply be eliminated by their 0-2 record vs. Calvin (0-4 vs. teams ranked ahead), or would we get some other tiebreaker to name a No. 3 seed with the other two playing in?

I was told this is correct
Quote from: sac on February 16, 2017, 02:18:51 AM
I think this is right.
Trine win, Alma win   Trine is 3rd seed, Alma 4th seed
Trine win, Alma loss  Trine is 3rd seed, Alma/Albion either have a play-in game or Alma wins tie-breaker by beating Trine
Albion win, Alma win  3-way tie Trine, Albion, Alma, all 3 went 2-2 vs each other.  Albion and Alma both beat Calvin eliminating Trine.  Albion is 3 seed by beating Olivet twice, Alma 4th seed
Albion win, Alma loss  Albion/Trine tie for 3rd, Albion wins tie-break by beating Calvin.  Albion 3rd seed, Trine 4th seed


In that scenario of Trine win Alma loss, Albion would host the play-in game against Alma on Wednesday night

sac

Whittling down all-league, in no particular order, these are mine.  No Kzoo guy has stats better than anyone I've listed.

Trevor Gernaat, Alma
Corey Wheeler, Albion
Jason Zahran, Albion
DeVonte Harris, Adrian
Justin Webster, Adrian
Cam Denny, Calvin
Michael Wilks, Calvin
Harrison Blackledge, Hope
Dante Hawkins, Hope
Chad  Carlson, Hope
Eric Ewing, Olivet
Aaron Washington, Olivet
Will Dixon, Trine
Kyle Dodson, Trine

Think I'd go with Gernaat, Blackledge, Hawkins, Ewing, Dixon, Wilks maybe for first team. 

Blackledge is probably MVP.

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KnightSlappy

Using Massey game probabilities, here are the chances of the MIAA's five remaining teams to make the conference tournament / reach the tournament final / win the tournament title.

Hope:   100% / 89% / 76%
Calvin: 100% / 54% / 10%
Trine:   68% / 32% /  7%
Alma:    81% /  8% /  3%
Albion:  51% / 18% /  3%

sac

Hoopsville interview with Hope's Greg Mitchell, starts at about 1:09:00
http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/index

One small correction for Dave.  Hope and Calvin are locked into their respective seeding spots in the MIAA Tournament.  The game will have no impact on final conference standings.

monsoon

Quote from: sac on February 16, 2017, 10:38:20 PM
Hoopsville interview with Hope's Greg Mitchell, starts at about 1:09:00
http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/index

One small correction for Dave.  Hope and Calvin are locked into their respective seeding spots in the MIAA Tournament.  The game will have no impact on final conference standings.

Thanks for the link, and time marker.

HopeConvert

Anyone have a ticket available for tomorrow's game?
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