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Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
« Reply #6045 on: February 16, 2017, 04:06:57 pm »
Here's my a corrected version
Current records with one game to play:
Dickinson = 11-6
F&M = 11-6
Ursinus = 11-6

Head to Head:
Dickinson: 0-2 vs F&M; 1-1 vs Ursinus; total = 1-3
F&M: 2-0 vs Dickinson; 0-2 vs Ursinus; total = 2-2
Ursinus: 1-1 vs Dickinson; 2-0 vs F&M; total = 3-1

Records against top-seeded teams (so far)
Dickinson: 0-2 vs Swat; 2-0 vs Hopkins
F&M: 1-0 vs Swat; 0-2 vs Hopkins
Ursinus: 0-2 vs Swat; 0-2 vs  Hopkins

If all three teams win
Ursinus seeded third (better H-H record)
F&M seeded 4th (better H-H)

If F&M loses and Dickinson and Ursinus win
Ursinus is third (better H-H)
Dickinson seeded fourth

If Dickinson loses and others win
Ursinus = 3rd, better H-H vs F&M
F&M seeded 4th

If Ursinus loses and others win
F&M seeded third, better H-H vs Dickinson
Dickinson seeded 4th

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Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
« Reply #6046 on: February 16, 2017, 04:46:16 pm »
I can't confirm all of those scenarios, but I believe that if F&M loses and both Dickinson and UC win, then Dickinson would be 3rd seed, not UC.  This would be b/c they split the season and then virtue of record vs. 1st place Swat (both 0-2), which they are still tied, and then record vs 2nd place JHU, which DIckinson is 2-0 and UC is 0-2. 
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Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
« Reply #6047 on: February 17, 2017, 12:12:41 pm »
Maybe they should do rock, paper , scissors.  There has to be a way to come seedings that doesn't require NASA computers

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Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
« Reply #6048 on: February 17, 2017, 04:08:06 pm »
Hoopdog14

I would agree with that!

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Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
« Reply #6049 on: February 18, 2017, 04:08:18 pm »

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Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
« Reply #6050 on: February 18, 2017, 06:35:50 pm »
Is this correct?

Swat
F&M
JH
Dickinson
Urs

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Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
« Reply #6051 on: February 18, 2017, 06:51:14 pm »
Sounds right.

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Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
« Reply #6052 on: February 18, 2017, 08:08:56 pm »
Is this correct?

Swat
F&M
JH
Dickinson
Urs

Not quite

Swat is the top seed

F&M is the 2, Dickinson is the 3

Ursinus travels to Johns Hopkins on Wednesday night
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Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
« Reply #6053 on: February 18, 2017, 10:39:56 pm »
How does that work?
JH, F&M, and D come out even head to head. They all swept and got swept round-robin style.
Against Swat, F&M wins twice, Hopkins once, and D not at all.
How is it Dickinson gets the three spot ahead of JH?


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Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
« Reply #6054 on: February 18, 2017, 10:47:05 pm »
It must be that F&M wins secondary tiebreaker of best record against SWAT. Then Dips are removed and of the remaining teams Dickinson swept JHU. Had they instead gone down to the next team Ursinus, then JHU would have gotten the nod with better record vs Bears.

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Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
« Reply #6055 on: February 18, 2017, 11:54:40 pm »
Not quite sure how the tiebreakers shake out that way, but that's what the Conference released officially on Twitter following the games today, as well as each various school wrote such into their post game recaps
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Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
« Reply #6056 on: February 19, 2017, 06:36:49 am »
It must be that F&M wins secondary tiebreaker of best record against SWAT. Then Dips are removed and of the remaining teams Dickinson swept JHU. Had they instead gone down to the next team Ursinus, then JHU would have gotten the nod with better record vs Bears.

This is correct. It's a recent change for the conference in how tiebreakers are applied across all sports. If one team wins the three way tie, the criteria is re-applied, starting with head-to-head, among the remaining teams.

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Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
« Reply #6057 on: February 19, 2017, 12:35:48 pm »
Did anyone see what time was posted for the championship game on Saturday?  I can't seem to locate it anywhere.

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Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
« Reply #6058 on: February 19, 2017, 01:22:46 pm »
This is correct. It's a recent change for the conference in how tiebreakers are applied across all sports. If one team wins the three way tie, the criteria is re-applied, starting with head-to-head, among the remaining teams.

Yikes -- this is new to the Centennial? Pretty standard fare for breaking three-way ties.
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Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
« Reply #6059 on: February 19, 2017, 03:32:24 pm »
Did anyone see what time was posted for the championship game on Saturday?  I can't seem to locate it anywhere.
Friday
6:00 4/5 winner @ Swat
8:00 Dickinson/F&M

Saturday
8:00 Winner v. Winner @ Swat

This is correct. It's a recent change for the conference in how tiebreakers are applied across all sports. If one team wins the three way tie, the criteria is re-applied, starting with head-to-head, among the remaining teams.

Yikes -- this is new to the Centennial? Pretty standard fare for breaking three-way ties.
No, that's the way the centennial has done it for a while. It hasn't changed recently. It's just not seen vert often where a different order of tiebreakers causes different results like this.