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Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2005, 05:33:12 pm »
Kudos to the Bison and hope they do something good against JC.

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Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2005, 10:22:25 pm »
I know this is a response to a dated item, but it's still on this page.  To MasterCardinal, Franciscan University is NOT a Jesuit school . . . it is a Franciscan school, i.e. run by the Franciscan order, not the Jesuits.  The Jesuits take a back seat to no one when it comes to rigid academic priorities, but if they were so rigid as to limit athletics, there'd be no teams from Georgetown, Boston College, Loyola Marymount, USF, John Carroll, Fordham, Gonzaga, Marquette, St. Louis U., et al (all Jesuit colleges and universities).

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Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2005, 04:13:18 pm »
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Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2005, 04:42:53 pm »
"You'll lose Saturday"

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Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2005, 12:24:37 pm »
As you can see not many people post on this thread so insulting the Bethany fans is basically a waste of time being im the only Bethany poster on here and I could care less.

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Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2005, 06:45:01 pm »
The PAC is adding Thomas More as the 7th member of the conference in all sports beginning in the fall of 2005. They will also be eligible for all conference titles from the start.

Press release said they believe the 2-year wait for automatic bids to the tournaments will be waived by the NCAA.

Thomas More is across the river from Cincinnati so there's some long drives to and from the western PA area. Must have in mind adding some other schools along I-71 & I-75. Doesn't make much sense to me.

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Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2005, 07:50:38 pm »
Big Daddy, I think that the Pres AC has 1-3 schools in mind, especially some from the southern Ohio-southeastern Indiana region.

The AQ issue extends to every sport.  Thomas More's addition will give the Pres AC an AQ in football, volleyball, men's and women's hoops,  men's and women's soccer, baseball and softball.

There are even discussions about extending the AQ procedures to Men's and Women's Tennis (where TMC would be the 7th for both), to Cross Country (where TMC would be the 5th Men's team and the 7th Women's team) and to Golf (where TMC would be the 6th Men's and the 4th Women's teams).

As I have followed the new Provisionals joining D3, I do not see any better choices for the Pres AC to gain members in the near future  One travel partner who sees the Pres AC as a more compatible conference may be possible to find.

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Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2005, 08:35:20 pm »
Ralph,

To me there's a half dozen D-3 schools here in western PA that would be more natural fits for the PAC if expansion is what their looking for. Plus there's other NAIA school & Penn State branch campuses that have been talking about going D-3.  

The natural rivalry aspect of these relatively close schools translates into increased people in the stands and a more exciting atmosphere plus more gate & concession money. Just look at the Geneva/Westminster game of this past year. Biggest crowd of the year for Geneva. Who from Westminster is going to drive to northern KY for a game in January?

Depending on which team from the PAC your talking about, the drive from Pittsburgh to the I-75/I-275 split in KY by bus is 5-6 hours DEPENDING ON TRAFFIC around Columbus and Cincy.

My head is still spinning from this news. Maybe the head-cheeses have a grand idea but I think it's a DUMB IDEA. Tuition will have to increase a thousand dollars a semester to cover transportation charges.

I'm done ranting...........someone please explain it to me.

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Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2005, 08:38:04 pm »
And 1 more thing...........I scooped the Grand Wizard Pat Coleman with this story!!!! You've got to quit taking afternoon naps PAT!!!!

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Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2005, 09:46:18 pm »
Big Daddy,

Sorry. I posted it on D3football.com at 2:15 and on D3hoops.com at 7:30. I thought in April it would be ok for me to feed my kids dinner before I got things updated for you. Sorry if that bothers you.

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Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2005, 09:47:00 pm »
And don't call me Grand Wizard. That's a hate-filled term and I want nothing to do with it.

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Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2005, 11:19:15 pm »
Big Daddy, the transition to D3 would take at least until 2012 for NAIA and non-align Penn State schools.  Also, I understand that the NAIA has changed their by-laws so that any NAIA school that declares for the NCAA is ineligible for the NAIA playoffs.  That means that a program is in the intercollegiate athletic winderness for some students' entire athletic career.  IMHO, very few NAIA schools will make the move now.  TMC apparently was the quickest fix.

Earlier in this thread, Master Cardinal postulated that those eastern PA D3's did not wish to leave where they were for the Presidents' AC.  I trust his impressions.  The Presidents AC realized that they must move elsewhere and TMC was excited to oblige.

(Message edited by rturner on April 6, 2005)

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Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2005, 07:34:50 am »
Sorry Pat,

Your correct, that's a bad term to use. Bad choice of words on my part but I didn't mean it in that context.  

But...........You seem to be able to throw a dig out but not able to take one very well.  


Ralph,

I hear ya and what your saying about the NAIA's and such......it's just that I see how Geneva's overall performance in footbal and basketball has slipped over the recent years and I believe one of the major reasons is the geography of their conference. Just isn't that much local interest when they schedule teams from distant places. It's still small-college sports and I think they still need some sort of semi-local/regional flavor to generate fan interest.  

Guess I still remember (at least to me) what I'd call(or remember) the best years of the PAC when Allegheny, Hiram, Case & John Carrol where here but I guess that's a pipe dream to see that happen again.

Hope it's sucessful for the PAC.............I just don't think it will. We'll see in 10 years.

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Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2005, 10:38:43 am »
As a former resident of Western Pa, my reaction too was what a mismatch of geographics.  The allure of the PrAC is the close proximity of the schools... To bring in T More some 600 miles away makes no sense -  Way too much travel (at least 3 trips assuming playing each school home and away) for Thomas More, and one additional long trip for each of the original members.  Yet the NCAA tournament structure is based totally on geographics - limiting travel -  rather than logical seedings.... NO SENSE

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Re: MBB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2005, 11:22:32 am »
Thomas More appears to be 270 miles from W&J, 330 miles from Thiel, 260 from Bethany, 300 miles from Waynesburg, 340 miles from Grove City and 320 miles from Westminster.

Guess we'll have to see who else they pull into the league.