Pool B

Started by Ralph Turner, October 01, 2005, 02:12:36 PM

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@d3jason

Norwich/SUNY Maritime game should be interesting/important one too.

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Undefeated Teams
Case Western Reserve University (6-0, beat Hiram 41-0, next vs Wooster)
Wesley College (7-0, beat Southern Virginia 52-3, open next week)
SUNY-Maritime (7-0, beat Becker 23-0, at Mount Ida)

One Loss Teams
Salisbury University (5-1, beat Huntingdon 45-21, at Union)
Norwich University (5-1, beat Husson 52-7, at Anna Maria)

Two Loss Teams
University of Chicago (4-2 ,open, at Kenyon)
University of Minnesota, Morris (4-2, beat Northwestern 35-33. next vs. St Scholastica)
Macalester College (4-2, open, next vs Carleton)
Crown College (5-2, beat Eureka 36-14, next at MacMurry)
Carnegie Mellon University (4-2, open, next vs. Wittenberg)
Washington University (4-2, beat Wooster 14-13, next vs Oberlin)

Westminster College (Missouri) (3-3, loss to Martin Luther 28-23)

ExTartanPlayer

Thanks for keeping the running update going.
CWRU and Wesley look like locks (not that either of them is a surprise).  Even with a loss, they're probably in.

SUNY-Maritime hasn't beaten anybody, and they do have their two toughest games coming up (Norwich & Mt. Ida)...but they are still favored to go undefeated.

Salisbury is almost definitely BETTER than SUNY-Maritime, but is probably stuck on the outside looking in unless they can beat Wesley and/or SUNY-Maritime trips up.  Too bad; going 7-2 with losses to Hampden-Sydney and Wesley is a nice season.

Hard to imagine any of the two-loss teams getting in, although WashU might have a case if they run the table (given that they'd have wins over Wabash and CWRU).
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Ralph Turner

Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on October 21, 2010, 05:02:18 PM
Thanks for keeping the running update going.
CWRU and Wesley look like locks (not that either of them is a surprise).  Even with a loss, they're probably in.

SUNY-Maritime hasn't beaten anybody, and they do have their two toughest games coming up (Norwich & Mt. Ida)...but they are still favored to go undefeated.

Salisbury is almost definitely BETTER than SUNY-Maritime, but is probably stuck on the outside looking in unless they can beat Wesley and/or SUNY-Maritime trips up.  Too bad; going 7-2 with losses to Hampden-Sydney and Wesley is a nice season.

Hard to imagine any of the two-loss teams getting in, although WashU might have a case if they run the table (given that they'd have wins over Wabash and CWRU).
If HSC and Wesley are both undefeated and ranked in the Top 3 of the Final South Region rankings, I think that Salisbury might contend as a Pool C bid.

One-loss Hardin-Simmons still has to play McMurry.  HSU has non-conference/in-region wins over Whitworth and Willamette.

K-Mack

QuoteIf HSC and Wesley are both undefeated and ranked in the Top 3 of the Final South Region rankings, I think that Salisbury might contend as a Pool C bid.

Week 7 is too early to definitively state what the post-Week 11 Pool C picture will look like. This time every year there look like a ton of worthy teams and some years a bunch lose, and some years, not enough do to make two-loss teams worth watching.

You are right about Salisbury being better, and I wish the door was open to two-loss teams a little more, but this is also part of the reason Salisbury is joining a conference, so it can get a fair shake at a playoff spot. Plenty of two-loss teams get in via AQ.

Also, H-SC isn't finishing undefeated, so clearly this is all moot. :D
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Quote from: K-Mack on October 21, 2010, 10:38:12 PM
Also, H-SC isn't finishing undefeated, so clearly this is all moot. :D

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Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on October 21, 2010, 05:02:18 PM
Hard to imagine any of the two-loss teams getting in, although WashU might have a case if they run the table (given that they'd have wins over Wabash and CWRU).

Note that WashU's win over Wabash is non-regional and technically would not be considered by the committee unless the commitee had to get deep into secondary criteria, which is doubtful.  On the flip side, WashU's loss to Wittenberg isn't regional either.  If the Bears were to win their three UAA games, you'd assume that WashU and CWRU would both have 1-loss regional records, and with WashU having a h2h result over CWRU the Bears should be considered ahead of CWRU...if, of course, the two were at the table at the same time. 
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Undefeated Teams
Case Western Reserve University (7-0, beat Wooster 28-14, next at Chicago)
Wesley College (7-0, open, next at Salisbury)
SUNY-Maritime (8-0, beat Mount Ida 37-35, next vs. Norwich)

One Loss Teams
Salisbury University (6-1, beat Union 52-21, next vs. Wesley)
Norwich University (6-1, beat Anna Maria 81-7, next at SUNY Maritime)

Two Loss Teams
University of Chicago (5-2 ,beat Kenyon 35-14, vs. Case Western)
Washington University (5-2, beat Oberlin 21-7, vs Carnegie Mellon)



Crown College (5-2, beat Eureka 36-14, next at MacMurry no score as yet)


Carnegie Mellon University (4-3, lost to Wittenberg 27-21, at Washington U.)
University of Minnesota, Morris (4-3, lost. St Scholastica 28-7)
Macalester College (4-3, lost Carleton 42-27)

MasterJedi

If Case, Wesley and SUNY Maritime go undefeated they should be locks. SUNY is obviously weaker compared to other teams but they'd have a shot to defeat at least one team depending on who they get matched up with, but they'll fall out pretty fast.

theoriginalupstate

Quote from: MasterJedi on October 23, 2010, 11:07:29 PM
If Case, Wesley and SUNY Maritime go undefeated they should be locks. SUNY is obviously weaker compared to other teams but they'd have a shot to defeat at least one team depending on who they get matched up with, but they'll fall out pretty fast.

Unless they get matched up with St. Lawrence, SUNY-Maritime would be a one and done...

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Pool B

East Region

6. SUNY-Maritime 8-0 8-0*  SUNY-Maritime wins, 20-2.

8. Norwich 7-1 7-1*

*Play at SUNY-Maritime on Oct. 30th


North Region

5. Case Western Reserve 6-0 7-0  (Has 3 UAA games to finish the season, and lost to Chicago, 24-20.)

South Region

3. Wesley 4-0 7-0**  (Wesley beat Salisbury 17-14.)

7. Salisbury 4-1 6-1**

** Play at Wesley on Oct. 30th.

West Region

No Pool B teams are ranked.




dc_has_been

I hate to ask this, especially when I could just do the research and find out myself, but how many pool B's are there this year?
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HScoach

2 more than there should be.......
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Thanks HScoach :D!!!!
Does that mean you're a SUNY supporter?  ;)
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