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#76
Region 10 men's basketball / Re: Northwest Conference
December 28, 2013, 06:45:02 PM
Quote from: wildcat11 on December 28, 2013, 12:29:05 AM
'Cats pick up a guard out of Nevada for next season.

www.kolotv.com/home/headlines/Manogues-James-Sandoval-Commits-to-Linfield-College-237666191.html

James Sandoval is the son of current Nevada Governor, Brian Sandoval.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it a recruiting violation for Rosenberg to talk about a student athlete that has not matriculated? I know for sure it is at the D1 level, so I'm guessing it is for the D3 level as well.

Also, this is a weird Whitworth team. It feels like McConnell has regressed, and the youth of Jurlina and Love certainly showed down the stretch. I don't think either of those two have lived up to their hype, though to be fair we are only through the non-conference portion of the schedule their freshman year. Whitworth played their best half of the season today, and played the wost half of their season. Their loss to UWSP looks bad, but it really was a good game for about 34 minutes. Four guys fouled out, they couldn't buy a bucket in the second half and shot right around 50% from the line in the second half.

I'm also not convinced that Drew Sears isn't better than Wilkes, Farnsworth and for sure Loiler. Whitworth has certainly come down from the Hayford era. I think Logie is a good coach, but I don't think he's anywhere close to Hayford.
#77
Region 10 men's basketball / Re: Northwest Conference
November 24, 2013, 02:55:59 AM
If tonight's offensive struggle vs. Colorado College is any indication, this could be an interesting year for the Bucs. After being spoiled for so long, I still think we're the class of the league, but the gap is shrinking. One problem, to me, seems to be that after years of having a go-to post when the team is struggling shooting like they were tonight (21-58 from the floor, 5-23 from 3 and 68% from the FT line), we don't have that post anymore. It seems that Logie is very good at developing guards, but with the way it seems Farnsworth is currently playing, I'm curious if he can develop posts like Hayford could (Montgomery, Friedt, etc.). The other thing is that, despite basically playing four guards and a post, they too often settle down into half court sets and not running in transition.

A lighthearted moment at the game was when SUNY-Old Westbury's team joined the Bucs' student section, taking pictures and videos, and doing the chants with the students. It seemed they had never seen that kind of support before and wanted to join in! They even got the students to do the "left, right, left, right" foul out chant for them as they walked out of the Fieldhouse at halftime. SUNY-OW was a fun team to watch because of their length and athleticism, which hurt UPS down the stretch tonight. Best of luck to them the rest of their season.
#78
I love all the optimism from across the country about WW's chances this weekend, but let's not count our chickens before they hatch. I know, I know, we already beat them, but at this point in the tournament there are no bad teams. Plus it's tough to beat a good team twice. Pride comes before the fall, etc. It doesn't matter to me how much WW wins by, I just hope they win.

On a side note, if what playball says is true about Doty writing a book about the crap he put up with over the years, I hope he does it. I know I'd read it. I'm sure he has some stories to tell.
#79
From my perspective, I thought Mack Larkin's shot beat the shot clock before the first T, but it was a bang-bang play. If they had called it the other way, the WW guys would have been upset. Tough call because it was so close; however, the Emory bench clearly was on the court. They also televised the game in eastern Washington, so I'm not sure what the rules are at D3, but I assume they could have looked on those monitors. Not sure why they didn't if it was available.

Second T was an obvious late push. Final T: from what I saw Davis pushed Larkin late (like he did to Farnsworth to pick up the first T), then Larkin's face and Davis' elbow connected seconds later. Not sure how much of the elbow to the face was instigated by Davis. Even as a WW homer, I thought Larkin's ran into Davis' elbow rather than Davis going for Larkin's face. The rumor I've heard is that there was potentially a spitting incident that led to the T. Like I said, it's a rumor, but one that apparently was heard through one of the media outlets. That final T really swung the game for WW, leading to a seven-point possession. Until then it looked like Emory might be staging a comeback.

I thought the officials let the game get out of hand. They really let the physical play go, while calling ticky-tack fouls on both teams. That led to two frustrated teams in an emotional game. WW just happened to stay more composed down the stretch and I'm certain the home court and double-digit lead led to the composure.
#80
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on March 01, 2013, 01:36:49 PM
Quote from: Pinecone_Curtain on March 01, 2013, 01:32:13 PM
Whitworth University (Spokane, Wash.)
24-3 overall, 16-2 conference including tournament
Coach: Matt Logie
Conference: NWC regular and tournament champions (7-straight!)

Usual starters:

PG- Dustin McConnell (5-11, Jr.) 13.6 ppg, 44.2 rpg, 45% from 3, 87% FT
SG- Wade Gebbers (5-11, Sr.) 11.9 ppg, 81.5% FT
SF- George Valle (6-4, Fr.) 12.3 ppg, 3.9 rpg
PF- Mack Larkin (6-5, Sr.) 7.6 ppg, 4.3 rpg
C- Taylor Farnsworth (6-8, So.) 10.4 ppg, 5.3 rpg

Key reserves:

Colton McCargar (6-1 guard, Jr.) 11.9 ppg, 43.8% from 3, 4.1 rpg
Zach Payne (6-6 post, Sr.) 5.0 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 66.3% FG
Robby Douglas (6-1 guard, Jr.) 4.4 ppg
Hank Aldous (6-5 wing, Fr.) 2.9 ppg

Key wins:
Mary Hardin-Baylor (70-61), @Redlands (70-57), Whitman (93-72)

Key losses:
St. Thomas (70-65), Whitman (93-90 OT), George Fox (89-81)

The skinny:
On paper this is probably the least talented Whitworth team in a decade. They don't have those one or two stars of the past (a la Taylor, Montgomery, etc.), but this team is more balanced and probably a bit deeper than any of those previous teams. Everyone knows their role and they do it well. They can win any style, whether teams force them into a half-court set or try to run-and-gun because they have a nice rotation of guards who can play either way. They rarely get outcoached and they don't turn the ball over (fewest per game in the NWC). They're just a well-oiled machine. The problem? They seem to play to their level of their opponents: they barely lost to St. Thomas, yet they also lost at home to George Fox. They can beat any team in this tournament, but they could also lose to any team in this tournament. Having home games to the Elite 8 should help.

WOW!  Sure glad I've got Dustin on my fantasy team!! ;D

Whoops! Try 4.2. Sorry to disappoint!  ;D
#81
Whitworth University (Spokane, Wash.)
24-3 overall, 16-2 conference including tournament
Coach: Matt Logie
Conference: NWC regular and tournament champions (7-straight!)

Usual starters:

PG- Dustin McConnell (5-11, Jr.) 13.6 ppg, 44.2 rpg, 45% from 3, 87% FT
SG- Wade Gebbers (5-11, Sr.) 11.9 ppg, 81.5% FT
SF- George Valle (6-4, Fr.) 12.3 ppg, 3.9 rpg
PF- Mack Larkin (6-5, Sr.) 7.6 ppg, 4.3 rpg
C- Taylor Farnsworth (6-8, So.) 10.4 ppg, 5.3 rpg

Key reserves:

Colton McCargar (6-1 guard, Jr.) 11.9 ppg, 43.8% from 3, 4.1 rpg
Zach Payne (6-6 post, Sr.) 5.0 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 66.3% FG
Robby Douglas (6-1 guard, Jr.) 4.4 ppg
Hank Aldous (6-5 wing, Fr.) 2.9 ppg

Key wins:
Mary Hardin-Baylor (70-61), @Redlands (70-57), Whitman (93-72)

Key losses:
St. Thomas (70-65), Whitman (93-90 OT), George Fox (89-81)

The skinny:
On paper this is probably the least talented Whitworth team in a decade. They don't have those one or two stars of the past (a la Taylor, Montgomery, etc.), but this team is more balanced and probably a bit deeper than any of those previous teams. Everyone knows their role and they do it well. They can win any style, whether teams force them into a half-court set or try to run-and-gun because they have a nice rotation of guards who can play either way. They rarely get outcoached and they don't turn the ball over (fewest per game in the NWC). They're just a well-oiled machine. The problem? They seem to play to their level of their opponents: they barely lost to St. Thomas, yet they also lost at home to George Fox. They can beat any team in this tournament, but they could also lose to any team in this tournament. Having home games to the Elite 8 should help.
#82
Region 10 men's basketball / Re: Northwest Conference
February 20, 2013, 06:21:21 PM
All-Conference teams have been released: http://www.nwcsports.com/sports/mbkb/2012-13/releases/MBB_All_NWC_2013

I actually made up my own before I saw the release and, while I got quite a few right, I missed POY.

My thoughts:
-Not surprised about Sundquist. I think Logie was going to win it until Fox beat WW in Spokane. Then it was Sundquist.
-I think Eisenhardt was the default POY. I don't think he should have gotten it, but I there's nobody who really stood out.
-I thought Gebbers might get POY as sort of a "lifetime achievement" award rather than what he did this year, tho he did make some of WW's most crucial buckets (long 3 @ Fox, almost single-handedly beat WM in Walla Walla).
-If Batiuk plays all season he probably gets POY because he is the best player in the league.
-How did Malley only get HM?!? I had him first team. Granted I basically only watched WW games this season, but he lit us up. He had 30-something last week against us.
-Other than that I was fairly close. I think I had all the players, just had them one level up or down from where they were voted.

Anyone else have thoughts?
#83
Region 10 men's basketball / Re: Northwest Conference
February 07, 2013, 02:37:45 AM
Quote from: (509)Rat on February 06, 2013, 07:52:52 PM
Farnsworth slammed the ball down after his 5th foul. Castle said the T was warranted, but most of the other 20 fouls in the second half and OT were not, supposedly.

Valle got taken down with no foul called late in the game, and then they went down and called an under the back on Farnsworth going for a rebound. You read that right. He had inside position for a rebound and then got called for under the back I guess. Not sure what else it could have been. Just a crazy, crazy call. That was Farnsworth's fourth foul and I think that really frustrated him. He argued into the timeout. Playball, you've never been called for under the back right?!?! Not to harp on that one call, but that one to me was the most egregious in a series of terrible calls. Anyway, Farnsworth got called for a fifth (tough to tell on the video from afar if it was a good or bad call) but he slammed the ball and it went halfway to the ceiling. The Farnsworth T was the best call they made all night. He absolutely deserved it. The other fouls? Not so much.

But it wasn't just fouls they missed, they missed a lot of kicks, travels, etc. I mean, you don't get calls on the road, but this was ridiculous. I know, I know, Whitworth has nothing to complain about, etc. Whatever. Last time the Missionaries ruined our perfect regular season we got to the Elite 8. I'd gladly take a return trip to the E8 or further. Hopefully the Bucs can still host a couple rounds.

About the Seattle Times article, you'd never know it was a rivalry game looking at the Missionary crowd last night. Personally I always thought of UPS and Linfield more as rivals because they were good at sports when I was at WW, but I guess times have changed. Bridgeland has certainly brought a new attitude (and I mean that in every sense of the word) to the Missionaries. Plus with all the money they're starting to pour into athletics, the teams down in Walla Walla are starting to get much better. I think they just ended Whitworth's 100+ dual match win streak a few weeks ago in men's swimming.
#84
Region 10 men's basketball / Re: Northwest Conference
January 12, 2013, 04:33:37 AM
Whitworth did play sloppy tonight, but as some of you called a few days ago, it was Gebbers who hit the big shot when they needed it to lift the Bucs. Many of the turnovers were self-inflicted. A stupid travel here. A bad pass there. But credit the Fox defense for a lot of the turnovers. After Whitworth dominated in the paint early (remember they built a 20-5 lead before Fox went on something like a 26-5 run the rest of the first half), Fox made defensive adjustments to collapse on the WW bigs, which, 1) caused some turnovers from the WW bigs, and 2) opened up a lot of kick-out looks for their guards. It's just their guards went cold for about a 10-minute stretch. Like, really cold.

Second half, WW made a comeback, got up 8-ish before Fox made it a game late. Fox led by six with two minutes left or so when Gebbers came up with a HUGE and DEEP 3. Then WW got defensive stops on their next three or four possessions. Getting defensive stops in the clutch (a la WM's last possession in regulation) has become what this team is all about. WW didn't deserve to win tonight, but they found a way, which is what good teams do. Are they the fifth best team in the nation? They don't have #5 in the nation talent (or probably even top 10 talent), but they just find a way to win games and that's all that matters.

The thing about this team: they aren't the most talented WW team. In fact, they probably are the least talented WW team in a decade. But they are tough, gritty, well-coached, can play any number of styles (won shoot-out with WM and won a grind-it-out game with Fox in three days), and can come up with a stop when they need it. And sometimes that's all it takes.
#85
Multi-Regional Topics / Re: Conference Tournaments
February 24, 2012, 01:15:39 AM
Northwest Conference

Semifinals (Thursday):
#1 Whitworth 79, #4 Lewis & Clark 61 (Lasisi, WHTW: 27 pts, 8 reb)
#2 Puget Sound 79, #3 Whitman 62 (Egberuare, UPS: 13 pts, 6 reb, 4 asst)

Final (Saturday, 7 pm)
#2 Puget Sound @ #1 Whitworth
Live Video & Audio: http://www.whitworth.edu/Athletics/Teams/Basketball/livefeed.htm
Live Stats: http://www.whitworth.edu/Athletics/Teams/Basketball/livestats/xlive.htm
#86
Region 10 men's basketball / Re: Northwest Conference
January 19, 2012, 12:59:29 AM
Quote from: playball on January 18, 2012, 10:44:49 PM
Anyone know the the kind of budget Whitman is able to work with?  Just curious.

They recently got a $3 mil donation and I've heard from multiple people that the men's b-ball program got a pretty nice chunk of that. I've heard different numbers so it's hard to speculate, but I don't think their program is hurting for cash.

http://www.whitman.edu/content/news/EndowWhitAthletics
#87
Region 10 men's basketball / Re: Northwest Conference
January 18, 2012, 03:43:59 AM
Just got back from the WW/WM game. Good game tonight. I hate Bridgeland, but he's a helluva coach and made some good adjustments at half, mainly switching out from 2-2-1 to a 2-1-2 trap which led to more TOs from WW in the 2nd half. WW was cold from outside (5-25) yet kept shooting even though most of their points came off attacking the press and taking it strong to the rim. There is no Riley on this team who is near automatic, except Gebbers, but he's too small to create his own shot.

Playball and anyone else who thinks WW refs are homers would have enjoyed the reversal tonight as WW got absolutely hosed. Logie, who I don't think I've ever seen have more than a mild conversation with a ref, not only lost and threw his jacket into the stands, but he also got T'd up. They weren't horrible in the first half, but there was about a 8-10 minute stretch in the second when they were absolutely horrendous. I didn't recognize any of the refs (rumor is that they were high school refs--which wouldn't surprise in the least).

With that said, the turning point came with four minutes left when David Michaels was subbed back in and hit a big three to go up 61-58. He then got "fouled" on a three-point play (horrible call, especially when Gebbers got run over on a 3 a few possessions earlier with no call) and hit all three FTs. Next time down the floor he hit another three and all of a sudden WM is up 9. Bad call in-between two huge shots. Gotta give credit for those shots and for getting Felix in foul trouble. WM made WW's role players beat them and they couldn't (McCargar and McConnell were a combined 2-12).

Hopefully the Bucs can find a way to win down in Walla Walla, and hopefully by that time Jack (who played about 90 seconds tonight) and Zach (who didn't suit up) will be back. They will need those two guys. They will also need to stop settling for jumpers when they clearly aren't falling. Credit to WM for staying tough despite a halftime deficit.
#88
Region 10 men's basketball / Re: Northwest Conference
January 15, 2012, 07:49:56 PM
Quote from: playball on January 15, 2012, 04:38:54 PM
3 FREE THROWS for LINFIELD?!  YOU SERIOUS!?  This is a little... ok, VERY skewed!  Unreal.... 
OK, now for actual stat reading and my two cents.  RAT, Batiuk will be the best player to come through Linfield in a long time.  The way he shoots the ball is fantastic and he will only get better at creating his own shot.  Look for him to be an All American in the next couple years, not yet though as his rebound numbers need to come up.  Good passer too. 
For your perimeter defense comment I say "Where is this years Bo Gregg when you need him to guard whoever is hot for the other team?!"  There always seems to be one, maybe two guys that step up defensively for the Pirates.  I think this is when Loofburrow is truly missed since he matches up better with a 4 man where Felix the 5.  3 free throws though? Wow.

Playball, the numbers were skewed (Linfield had 7 fouls to Whitworth's 0 at one point in the second half) but I didn't think that was necessarily wrong. Batiuk took a majority of the shots during that stretch in the second half, and most were from 8-20 feet out. Linfield was hot from outside, so the jumpers led to few fouls being called on WW. With that said, WW decided to drive every possession to begin the second half (mostly Lasisi, who can get to the rim against anyone in this league) and when they did, they were fouled. So while it looks like homer calls on the stat sheet, it was really style of play that led to those numbers.

The "Bo Gregg" on this team: his name is Mack Larkin, but he has been out lately with injury. Once Felix got in foul trouble, Logie substituted Felix in on offense and Michael Taylor (NTMT) on defense to blanket Batiuk. Mack would have helped greatly.

My general thoughts from the game:
I was really impressed with Linfield, in particular Batiuk who came to play. Whitworth was still without Jack, Zach and Mack (hopefully at least Jack will be back for Whitman on Tuesday), so it's a little easier to focus the defense on "the big three" in Gebbers, Friedt, and Lasisi.

Lasisi needs to stop taking so many jumpers. Like I said earlier, Lasisi can get to the hoop against ANYONE in this league, so I hope Logie spreads it out and lets him drive more often. If the defense collapses like Linfield did late in the second half, he can kick it to a shooter, or make Felix's defender choose. Wade has been in a bit of slump lately, which has led to teams focusing on Felix (Linfield double-or-triple teamed him every time he touched the ball) who will still get at least double-digit points/rebounds every game. That means the role players like McConnell, McCargar, and Taylor will have to step up. We've seen McConnell and Taylor do it a few times such as last night when McConnell hit some HUGE shots, still waiting for McCargar. McCargar is really hit or miss: he will sometimes nail a huge shot, and then miss badly on a wide-open look.

Big game Tuesday vs. Whitman. I'm not sure Whitworth has the depth to run with the Missionaries, much less the offensive firepower, without Jack and Mack. Even though it's Jan Term and most students are studying abroad, I hope the students that are in Spokane come out in droves and are loud. The Bucs will need every ounce of energy.
#89
Region 10 men's basketball / Re: Northwest Conference
December 08, 2011, 03:32:09 AM
Quote from: PointSpecial on December 07, 2011, 07:26:43 PM
We're having a discussion in the General Basketball section about home winning streaks... and think that Whitworth may have the current longest winning streak at home in the country.

We thought it was 41... can any WW fans confirm this number or correct it?

Yes, the current home winning streak at Whitworth is 41. The Pirates had a longer one (45) back in the mid-to-late 90s, so it will be fun to see if this team can top that.
#90
Region 10 men's basketball / Re: Northwest Conference
December 05, 2011, 03:52:00 PM
Quote from: playball on December 04, 2011, 06:24:58 PM

Between the economy and the lockout, not many places available. A lot of guys that had been playing over there could not get contracts. Michael Taylor is playing in Germany.  David might go later. What are you doing?
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Im playing baseball actually.  I got drafted by the Rangers so Ill see where that takes me.  Missing basketball for sure though.   

Rat, "LCPIO26....lol"  love it
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So if you're in the Rangers organization, will you be playing in Spokane in the next year or two?