Pool C

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The worst part of that guy tossing the ball in the rafters is that I thought that happened only a few years ago.

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Quote from: ronk on February 24, 2015, 05:04:14 PM
Quote from: John Gleich on February 24, 2015, 01:37:35 PM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 24, 2015, 08:49:32 AM
I wish the MIAA would go back to doing a full conference tournament rather than taking the top four seeds. I think there's something romantic about the idea that a #8 seed in a conference could go on a run and get into the tournament. Single elimination tournaments like the NCAAs are about crowning a champion, not determining who the best teams are.

I'm with you there... I wish the WIAC was still and 8-team tournament instead of the 6-team format they switched to in '08-'09. Heck, it was a 9-team tournament during the first two years in '99 and '00.

And '01 was the infamous year where #8 Stout beat #1 Whitewater by 41 in Whitewater, #7 Platteville beat #2 Stevens Point on a 30 foot buzzer beater, #6 Oshkosh beat #3 River Falls after RF threw the ball into the air in celebration of their win... but the ball hit the ceiling before the buzzer sounded, which gave Oshkosh the opportunity to hit a 3 to tie the game and send it to OT, where Oshkosh promptly won.

Perhaps I just like the romantic underdog stories... but we seem to get fewer of these as more and more conferences just allow the front runners to get into the conference tournament.

The height of the ceiling wasn't covered in their scouting report? they got what they deserved. :o

Scouting report? It was their home gym, the scenario should have certainly been practiced before. If nothing else a bunch of players should have stopped at the gym in between classes and measured the height of the ceiling.

sac

Quote from: sac on February 24, 2015, 03:11:09 PM
Quote from: ziggy on February 24, 2015, 02:24:54 PM
Quote from: sac on February 24, 2015, 01:46:26 PM
The number of Pool C's from the UAA is not really out of line with the other 4 'power conferences' in the same time frame.

NESCAC  --12
CCIW      --11
ODAC     --11
WIAC     --9
UAA        --9


It's good to see the breakdown. Sometimes a Pool C is a projected Pool A that gets upset in the conference tourney but that can't happen in the UAA.

I actually think that number is over 50%.   I haven't added that kind of breakdown yet to my list.  Easy enough to figure out I guess.



To follow up on this

There have 127 Pool C's since 2008.  Excluding conferences that are divided into divisions or decide their championship exclusively with the tournament.
44 Pool C's came from those kinds of conferences

Out of the remaining 83 Pool C bids handed out, 43 went to teams that entered their conference tournament as the Pool A.  51.8%

bopol

Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 24, 2015, 12:55:32 PM
Aside: I really like the 2 games = .030 SOS rule of thumb, but I'd like it a lot better if "2 games" was turned into winning percentage (since winning percentage is the actual criterion). Two games out of a 25-game schedule is .080. This jives fairly well with the traditional RPI calculation.

.750 WP / .530 SOS = .585 RPI
.830 WP / .500 SOS = .583 RPI

My feeling, based on regional ranking is more like 2 games equal .040 SOS or 1 loss for .020 SOS.  I get the winning percentage thing, but most teams play roughly the same number of games, so the difference between 19-7 and 20-7 is minimal.

bopol

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 23, 2015, 10:34:59 AM
Quote from: sac on February 23, 2015, 08:12:07 AM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 23, 2015, 08:05:05 AM
Good work, Sac.

I also think Scranton will jump F&M this week. Maybe I will put winning % in instead of record this week.

I don't know, I think F&M might still be ahead of them, their RvRRO's seem pretty large in this comparison.  I'm also not sure if KS updated the RvRRO numbers for this past week so they might have changed.

23.  Scranton 20-5   .800/.516/1-1
31.  Frank & Marsh 20-5  .800/.505/3-2

I would agree... I am not sure Scranton's win over Catholic is good enough to jump F&M's win over Dickinson. Call those even and go back to the fact F&M has a better vRRO - which is what I think kept them ahead of Scranton last week when both teams took a bad loss into those rankings.

Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 23, 2015, 09:16:16 AM
Quote from: sac on February 23, 2015, 08:31:16 AM
Question for Dave on your .667/under .500 comment

Could the committee really ignore a team like North Central, as the 8th ranked Central Region team (unlikely anyone not ranked gets ranked).  If North Central loses to Augustana this week, this would be their criteria

North Central  16-8       .667/.596/3-6

The SOS is approximated where it should finish playing at Augustana this week.  I think that would be hard to ignore along with their 9 RvRRO's in the final few rounds.

I mean, .667 isn't below .667.  :)

Yeah... below .667 is the key ... below. I'm not saying a team at .667 is not going to get in... I am just hearing enough stuff to indicate having a 16-9 record (i.e. Carthage last year) isn't going to cut it.

Well, there's no one like Carthage this year.  Williams is close, but has no really big wins (remember, Carthage had wins against two top 10 teams).  Based on Knightslappy, Carthage did have the second toughest SOS, but was just 1-10 against RRO.

bopol

Quote from: ronk on February 23, 2015, 08:39:29 PM
Quote from: bopol on February 23, 2015, 02:59:54 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 23, 2015, 11:05:55 AM
Oh yeah. I also don't see St. Norbert being an issue. They are so much better than the other 3 MWC teams in the tourney.  If they do end up losing, IWU (and NCC) should jump them and Elmhurst should stay ahead of them.

Nah, it isn't St. Norbert being an issue - it's just a question of how can we take what's going on in the Central and compare it to other regions.  If St. Norbert iis sandwiched between 5 loss Elmhurst and 7 loss IWU, then what that say when we compare 7 loss IWU (or 7 loss North Central) to Brooklyn/Barach.  I'd say that it means that IWU and NCC are probably ahead of those two, which pretty much Pool C for the Atlantic ends at William Patterson.  Or if you compare St. Norbert with Franklin and Marshall and Scranton, I think you have to figure Norbert's ahead of both and then where does that put IWU and NCC with F&M and Scranton?

My personal take in the moment is that the Atlantic will get one Pool C, the East none and the Mid-Atlantic none and the West one before every ranked team in the Central will have a Pool C if the current rankings continues to hold true.

Dickinson could be ahead of every Central Pool C candidate save Whitewater.

Dickinson was borderline when I looked at the .528 SOS and knew they took a loss, but with their SOS up to .541, I'd say they would get a Pool C before the Central clears the table.

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Rutgers-Newark was up 27-21 at half over TGHIJGSTO, but the hosts have outscored them by 18 after the break and lead by 12 with under 4 to play. William Paterson up 10 with 5 to play. Both are strong Pool C candidates.

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This may sound strange, but because I have been asked a lot off these boards and took part in a playoff preview for a conference... I have actually found a couple of scenarios where the Mid-Atlantic could get two at-large... if not three.
- If F&M beats Dickinson and Hopkins... Centennial could be looking at two at-large bids.
- If Scranton beats Catholic in the Landmark... there probably will be a second bid there.
- Outside chance if St. Mary's loses in the championship of the CAC... they get an at-large bid as well.

Now, I realize that is a long shot... but there is a chance of two to four bids... granted a lot of other factors are at play... but I was a little surprised by that.
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KnightSlappy

I'm not at all confident in St Mary's Pool C chances, especially if they get bumped down the list by other favorites losing.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Yeah... they are a deep pick. I am not saying they will get it - I think they need to win the CAC to get in - but I could see some scenarios where they are available. It will be interesting.
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#5771
I copied this out for John Gleich before the new rankings came out so he can compare! These, of course, are Regional Ranking #2. I'll do the same for today's rankings.

I added winning % and vRRO and then I also averaged the winning % and SOS.

Remember, GREEN is Pool A (conference leaders), RED is Pool C (already eliminated from conference tourney)



   WK2      TEAM      Regional/Overall      W%      vRRO      SOS      Week      Ave.   
   Atl#1      Richard Stockton (NJAC)       19-5, 19-5      0.792       6-1      0.579       1-0      0.686   
   Atl#2      William Paterson (NJAC)       19-5, 19-5      0.792       5-2      0.555       0-1      0.674   
   Atl#3      Baruch (CUNYAC)        18-5, 18-5      0.783       3-1      0.501       1-1      0.642   
   Atl#4      Brooklyn (CUNYAC)       19-5, 19-5      0.792       2-3      0.490       2-0      0.641   
   Atl#5      Rutgers-Newark (NJAC)       16-8, 16-8      0.667       1-5      0.559       2-0      0.613   
   Atl#6       Sage College (SKY)       18-4, 19-4      0.818       1-1      0.472       2-0      0.645   
   Atl#7      Staten Island (CUNYAC)        17-7, 17-7      0.708       2-4      0.491       0-2      0.600   
                                                
   WK2      TEAM      Regional/Overall      W%      vRRO      SOS      Week      Ave.   
   C#1      Augustana (CCIW)       20-4, 20-4      0.833       5-2      0.584       1-0      0.709   
   C#2      Whitewater (WIAC)       19-2, 20-3      0.905       2-2      0.561       2-0      0.733   
   C#3      Stevens Point (WIAC)       20-4, 20-4      0.833       2-4      0.582       1-0      0.708   
   C#4      Washington U. (UAA)       17-5, 17-5      0.773       3-3      0.562       2-0      0.668   
   C#5      Elmhurst (CCIW)       19-5, 19-5      0.792       4-2      0.541       0-1      0.667   
   C#6      St. Norbert (MWC)        21-1, 21-1      0.955       0-1      0.498       1-0      0.727   
   C#7      IWU (CCIW)       17-7, 17-7      0.708       3-4      0.576       1-0      0.642   
   C#8      North Central (CCIW)       15-7, 17-7      0.682       3-5      0.577       1-0      0.630   
                                                
   WK2      TEAM      Regional/Overall      W%      vRRO      SOS      Week      Ave.   
   E#1      St. John Fisher (E8)        20-2, 20-2      0.909       0-0      0.493       1-2      0.701   
   E#2      Plattsburgh St.  (SUNYAC)        16-6, 16-6      0.727       1-0      0.542       2-1      0.635   
   E#3      NYU (UAA)       16-6, 16-6      0.727       4-2      0.532       0-2      0.630   
   E#4      Hobart   (LL)       16-6, 16-7      0.727       3-1      0.507       2-0      0.617   
   E#5      Skidmore (LL)        16-7, 16-7      0.696       1-5      0.542       2-0      0.619   
   E#6      Clarkson (LL)       17-5, 18-5      0.773       1-3      0.486       1-1      0.630   
                                                
   WK2      TEAM      Regional/Overall      W%      vRRO      SOS      Week      Ave.   
   GL#1      Marietta (OAC)        21-2, 21-2      0.913       4-2       0.512       2-0      0.713   
   GL#2      Ohio Wesleyan (NCAC)        19-4, 19-4      0.826       3-1      0.528       2-0      0.677   
   GL#3      Wooster (NCAC)       18-5, 18-5      0.783       3-2      0.546       2-0      0.665   
   GL#4      Mount Union (OAC)       18-5, 18-5      0.783       2-4      0.523       1-1      0.653   
   GL#5      John Carroll (OAC)       17-5, 17-5      0.773       2-2      0.520       2-0      0.647   
   GL#6      CWR (UAA)       12-6, 14-7      0.667       2-3      0.574       1-2      0.621   
   GL#7      Calvin (MIAA)        16-5, 17-6      0.762       2-1      0.512       2-0      0.637   
   GL#8      PS-Behrend (AMCC)        21-2, 21-2      0.913       1-1      0.446       2-0      0.680   
   GL#9      Hope (MIAA)       14-7, 15-8      0.667       2-5      0.552       2-0      0.610   
                                                
   WK2      TEAM      Regional/Overall      W%      vRRO      SOS      Week      Ave.   
   MA#1      Johns Hopkins (CC)        20-3, 20-3      0.870       3-2      0.530       2-0      0.700   
   MA#2      Dickinson (CC)       19-4, 19-4      0.826       3-1      0.528       1-1      0.677   
   MA#3      Catholic (LAND)        20-2, 20-3      0.909       2-1      0.485       1-1      0.697   
   MA#4      Franklin and Marshall (CC)       19-4, 19-4      0.826       2-2      0.497       1-1      0.662   
   MA#5      Scranton (LAND)       18-5, 18-5      0.783       0-2      0.507       2-0      0.645   
   MA#6      St. Mary's (Md.) (CAC)        16-4, 18-4      0.800       0-0      0.479       2-0      0.640   
                                                
   WK2      TEAM      Regional/Overall      W%      vRRO      SOS      Week      Ave.   
   NE#1      Babson (NEWMAC)        21-2, 21-2      0.913       6-2      0.561       2-0      0.737   
   NE#2      Bates (NESCAC)       18-5, 18-5      0.783       4-4      0.619       1-1      0.701   
   NE#3      Trinity (Ct.) (NESCAC)        18-4, 19-5      0.818       5-0      0.534       1-0      0.676   
   NE#4      Amherst (NESCAC)       18-6, 18-6      0.750       5-3      0.567       1-0      0.659   
   NE#5      Eastern Connecticut (LEC)        19-4, 19-4      0.826       2-2      0.562       2-0      0.694   
   NE#6      WPI (NEWMAC)       19-4, 19-4      0.826       3-2      0.523       2-0      0.675   
   NE#7      Bowdoin (NESCAC)       17-6, 17-6      0.739       2-4      0.563       1-1      0.651   
   NE#8      Springfield (NEWMAC)       16-7, 16-7      0.696       2-5      0.581       2-0      0.639   
   NE#9      Albertus Magnus (GNAC)        21-1, 21-1      0.955       0-1      0.475       3-0      0.715   
   NE#10      RIC (LEC)       16-7, 16-7      0.696       0-3      0.555       2-0      0.626   
   NE#11      Southern Vermont (NECC)        19-2, 20-3      0.905       1-1      0.479       2-0      0.692   
                                                
   WK2      TEAM      Regional/Overall      W%      vRRO      SOS      Week      Ave.   
   So#1      RMC (ODAC)        21-2, 21-2      0.913       5-0      0.556       2-0      0.735   
   So#2      Emory (UAA)        17-5, 17-5      0.773       5-3      0.564       2-0      0.669   
   So#3      East Texas Baptist (ASC)       19-4, 19-4      0.826       5-3      0.520       1-1      0.673   
   So#4      VWU (ODAC)       18-4, 19-4      0.818       1-3      0.531       2-0      0.675   
   So#5      Centre (SAA)        17-4, 18-4      0.810       0-1      0.523       2-0      0.667   
   So#6      Hardin-Simmons (ASC)        17-6, 17-6      0.739       3-4      0.513       2-0      0.626   
   So#7      Louisiana College (ASC)       13-5, 13-9      0.722       4-4      0.557       1-1      0.640   
   So#8      Mary Hardin-Baylor (ASC)       16-7, 16-7      0.696       3-4      0.517       1-1      0.607   
                                                
   WK2      TEAM      Regional/Overall      W%      vRRO      SOS      Week      Ave.   
   W#1      St. Thomas (MIAC)        20-2, 20-2      0.909       4-0      0.566       2-1      0.738   
   W#2      St. Olaf (MIAC)       20-3, 20-3      0.870       1-1      0.506       1-1      0.688   
   W#3      Buena Vista (IIAC)        17-5, 17-6      0.773       1-1      0.509       1-1      0.641   
   W#4      Dubuque (IIAC)       18-4, 19-4      0.818       0-2      0.521       1-1      0.670   
   W#5      Whitman (NWC)       17-4, 18-5      0.810       2-3      0.519       2-0      0.665   
   W#6      Whitworth (NWC)        20-3, 20-3      0.870       1-3      0.473       2-0      0.672   
   W#7      Chapman (SCIAC)       13-3, 18-3      0.813       1-0      0.512       2-1      0.663   
                                                
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   WK2      TEAM      Regional/Overall      W%      vRRO      SOS      Week      Ave.   
   NE#2      Bates (NESCAC)       18-5, 18-5      0.783       4-4      0.619       1-1      0.701   
   C#1      Augustana (CCIW)       20-4, 20-4      0.833       5-2      0.584       1-0      0.709   
   C#3      Stevens Point (WIAC)       20-4, 20-4      0.833       2-4      0.582       1-0      0.708   
   NE#8      Springfield (NEWMAC)       16-7, 16-7      0.696       2-5      0.581       2-0      0.639   
   Atl#1      Richard Stockton (NJAC)       19-5, 19-5      0.792       6-1      0.579       1-0      0.686   
   C#8      North Central (CCIW)       15-7, 17-7      0.682       3-5      0.577       1-0      0.630   
   C#7      IWU (CCIW)       17-7, 17-7      0.708       3-4      0.576       1-0      0.642   
   GL#6      CWR (UAA)       12-6, 14-7      0.667       2-3      0.574       1-2      0.621   
   NE#4      Amherst (NESCAC)       18-6, 18-6      0.750       5-3      0.567       1-0      0.659   
   W#1      St. Thomas (MIAC)        20-2, 20-2      0.909       4-0      0.566       2-1      0.738   
   So#2      Emory (UAA)        17-5, 17-5      0.773       5-3      0.564       2-0      0.669   
   NE#7      Bowdoin (NESCAC)       17-6, 17-6      0.739       2-4      0.563       1-1      0.651   
   C#4      Washington U. (UAA)       17-5, 17-5      0.773       3-3      0.562       2-0      0.668   
   NE#5      Eastern Connecticut (LEC)        19-4, 19-4      0.826       2-2      0.562       2-0      0.694   
   C#2      Whitewater (WIAC)       19-2, 20-3      0.905       2-2      0.561       2-0      0.733   
   NE#1      Babson (NEWMAC)        21-2, 21-2      0.913       6-2      0.561       2-0      0.737   
   Atl#5      Rutgers-Newark (NJAC)       16-8, 16-8      0.667       1-5      0.559       2-0      0.613   
   So#7      Louisiana College (ASC)       13-5, 13-9      0.722       4-4      0.557       1-1      0.640   
   So#1      RMC (ODAC)        21-2, 21-2      0.913       5-0      0.556       2-0      0.735   
   Atl#2      William Paterson (NJAC)       19-5, 19-5      0.792       5-2      0.555       0-1      0.674   
   NE#10      RIC (LEC)       16-7, 16-7      0.696       0-3      0.555       2-0      0.626   
   GL#9      Hope (MIAA)       14-7, 15-8      0.667       2-5      0.552       2-0      0.610   
   GL#3      Wooster (NCAC)       18-5, 18-5      0.783       3-2      0.546       2-0      0.665   
   E#2      Plattsburgh St.  (SUNYAC)        16-6, 16-6      0.727       1-0      0.542       2-1      0.635   
   E#5      Skidmore (LL)        16-7, 16-7      0.696       1-5      0.542       2-0      0.619   
   C#5      Elmhurst (CCIW)       19-5, 19-5      0.792       4-2      0.541       0-1      0.667   
   NE#3      Trinity (Ct.) (NESCAC)        18-4, 19-5      0.818       5-0      0.534       1-0      0.676   
   E#3      NYU (UAA)       16-6, 16-6      0.727       4-2      0.532       0-2      0.630   
   So#4      VWU (ODAC)       18-4, 19-4      0.818       1-3      0.531       2-0      0.675   
   MA#1      Johns Hopkins (CC)        20-3, 20-3      0.870       3-2      0.530       2-0      0.700   
   GL#2      Ohio Wesleyan (NCAC)        19-4, 19-4      0.826       3-1      0.528       2-0      0.677   
   MA#2      Dickinson (CC)       19-4, 19-4      0.826       3-1      0.528       1-1      0.677   
   GL#4      Mount Union (OAC)       18-5, 18-5      0.783       2-4      0.523       1-1      0.653   
   NE#6      WPI (NEWMAC)       19-4, 19-4      0.826       3-2      0.523       2-0      0.675   
   So#5      Centre (SAA)        17-4, 18-4      0.810       0-1      0.523       2-0      0.667   
   W#4      Dubuque (IIAC)       18-4, 19-4      0.818       0-2      0.521       1-1      0.670   
   GL#5      John Carroll (OAC)       17-5, 17-5      0.773       2-2      0.520       2-0      0.647   
   So#3      East Texas Baptist (ASC)       19-4, 19-4      0.826       5-3      0.520       1-1      0.673   
   W#5      Whitman (NWC)       17-4, 18-5      0.810       2-3      0.519       2-0      0.665   
   So#8      Mary Hardin-Baylor (ASC)       16-7, 16-7      0.696       3-4      0.517       1-1      0.607   
   So#6      Hardin-Simmons (ASC)        17-6, 17-6      0.739       3-4      0.513       2-0      0.626   
   GL#1      Marietta (OAC)        21-2, 21-2      0.913       4-2       0.512       2-0      0.713   
   GL#7      Calvin (MIAA)        16-5, 17-6      0.762       2-1      0.512       2-0      0.637   
   W#7      Chapman (SCIAC)       13-3, 18-3      0.813       1-0      0.512       2-1      0.663   
   W#3      Buena Vista (IIAC)        17-5, 17-6      0.773       1-1      0.509       1-1      0.641   
   E#4      Hobart   (LL)       16-6, 16-7      0.727       3-1      0.507       2-0      0.617   
   MA#5      Scranton (LAND)       18-5, 18-5      0.783       0-2      0.507       2-0      0.645   
   W#2      St. Olaf (MIAC)       20-3, 20-3      0.870       1-1      0.506       1-1      0.688   
   Atl#3      Baruch (CUNYAC)        18-5, 18-5      0.783       3-1      0.501       1-1      0.642   
   C#6      St. Norbert (MWC)        21-1, 21-1      0.955       0-1      0.498       1-0      0.727   
   MA#4      Franklin and Marshall (CC)       19-4, 19-4      0.826       2-2      0.497       1-1      0.662   
   E#1      St. John Fisher (E8)        20-2, 20-2      0.909       0-0      0.493       1-2      0.701   
   Atl#7      Staten Island (CUNYAC)        17-7, 17-7      0.708       2-4      0.491       0-2      0.600   
   Atl#4      Brooklyn (CUNYAC)       19-5, 19-5      0.792       2-3      0.490       2-0      0.641   
   E#6      Clarkson (LL)       17-5, 18-5      0.773       1-3      0.486       1-1      0.630   
   MA#3      Catholic (LAND)        20-2, 20-3      0.909       2-1      0.485       1-1      0.697   
   MA#6      St. Mary's (Md.) (CAC)        16-4, 18-4      0.800       0-0      0.479       2-0      0.640   
   NE#11      Southern Vermont (NECC)        19-2, 20-3      0.905       1-1      0.479       2-0      0.692   
   NE#9      Albertus Magnus (GNAC)        21-1, 21-1      0.955       0-1      0.475       3-0      0.715   
   W#6      Whitworth (NWC)        20-3, 20-3      0.870       1-3      0.473       2-0      0.672   
   Atl#6       Sage College (SKY)       18-4, 19-4      0.818       1-1      0.472       2-0      0.645   
   GL#8      PS-Behrend (AMCC)        21-2, 21-2      0.913       1-1      0.446       2-0      0.680   
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Sorted by the average of the winning % and SOS



   WK2      TEAM      Regional/Overall      W%      vRRO      SOS      Week      Ave.   
   W#1      St. Thomas (MIAC)        20-2, 20-2      0.909       4-0      0.566       2-1      0.738   
   NE#1      Babson (NEWMAC)        21-2, 21-2      0.913       6-2      0.561       2-0      0.737   
   So#1      RMC (ODAC)        21-2, 21-2      0.913       5-0      0.556       2-0      0.735   
   C#2      Whitewater (WIAC)       19-2, 20-3      0.905       2-2      0.561       2-0      0.733   
   C#6      St. Norbert (MWC)        21-1, 21-1      0.955       0-1      0.498       1-0      0.727   
   NE#9      Albertus Magnus (GNAC)        21-1, 21-1      0.955       0-1      0.475       3-0      0.715   
   GL#1      Marietta (OAC)        21-2, 21-2      0.913       4-2       0.512       2-0      0.713   
   C#1      Augustana (CCIW)       20-4, 20-4      0.833       5-2      0.584       1-0      0.709   
   C#3      Stevens Point (WIAC)       20-4, 20-4      0.833       2-4      0.582       1-0      0.708   
   NE#2      Bates (NESCAC)       18-5, 18-5      0.783       4-4      0.619       1-1      0.701   
   E#1      St. John Fisher (E8)        20-2, 20-2      0.909       0-0      0.493       1-2      0.701   
   MA#1      Johns Hopkins (CC)        20-3, 20-3      0.870       3-2      0.530       2-0      0.700   
   MA#3      Catholic (LAND)        20-2, 20-3      0.909       2-1      0.485       1-1      0.697   
   NE#5      Eastern Connecticut (LEC)        19-4, 19-4      0.826       2-2      0.562       2-0      0.694   
   NE#11      Southern Vermont (NECC)        19-2, 20-3      0.905       1-1      0.479       2-0      0.692   
   W#2      St. Olaf (MIAC)       20-3, 20-3      0.870       1-1      0.506       1-1      0.688   
   Atl#1      Richard Stockton (NJAC)       19-5, 19-5      0.792       6-1      0.579       1-0      0.686   
   GL#8      PS-Behrend (AMCC)        21-2, 21-2      0.913       1-1      0.446       2-0      0.680   
   GL#2      Ohio Wesleyan (NCAC)        19-4, 19-4      0.826       3-1      0.528       2-0      0.677   
   MA#2      Dickinson (CC)       19-4, 19-4      0.826       3-1      0.528       1-1      0.677   
   NE#3      Trinity (Ct.) (NESCAC)        18-4, 19-5      0.818       5-0      0.534       1-0      0.676   
   So#4      VWU (ODAC)       18-4, 19-4      0.818       1-3      0.531       2-0      0.675   
   NE#6      WPI (NEWMAC)       19-4, 19-4      0.826       3-2      0.523       2-0      0.675   
   Atl#2      William Paterson (NJAC)       19-5, 19-5      0.792       5-2      0.555       0-1      0.674   
   So#3      East Texas Baptist (ASC)       19-4, 19-4      0.826       5-3      0.520       1-1      0.673   
   W#6      Whitworth (NWC)        20-3, 20-3      0.870       1-3      0.473       2-0      0.672   
   W#4      Dubuque (IIAC)       18-4, 19-4      0.818       0-2      0.521       1-1      0.670   
   So#2      Emory (UAA)        17-5, 17-5      0.773       5-3      0.564       2-0      0.669   
   C#4      Washington U. (UAA)       17-5, 17-5      0.773       3-3      0.562       2-0      0.668   
   C#5      Elmhurst (CCIW)       19-5, 19-5      0.792       4-2      0.541       0-1      0.667   
   So#5      Centre (SAA)        17-4, 18-4      0.810       0-1      0.523       2-0      0.667   
   GL#3      Wooster (NCAC)       18-5, 18-5      0.783       3-2      0.546       2-0      0.665   
   W#5      Whitman (NWC)       17-4, 18-5      0.810       2-3      0.519       2-0      0.665   
   W#7      Chapman (SCIAC)       13-3, 18-3      0.813       1-0      0.512       2-1      0.663   
   MA#4      Franklin and Marshall (CC)       19-4, 19-4      0.826       2-2      0.497       1-1      0.662   
   NE#4      Amherst (NESCAC)       18-6, 18-6      0.750       5-3      0.567       1-0      0.659   
   GL#4      Mount Union (OAC)       18-5, 18-5      0.783       2-4      0.523       1-1      0.653   
   NE#7      Bowdoin (NESCAC)       17-6, 17-6      0.739       2-4      0.563       1-1      0.651   
   GL#5      John Carroll (OAC)       17-5, 17-5      0.773       2-2      0.520       2-0      0.647   
   MA#5      Scranton (LAND)       18-5, 18-5      0.783       0-2      0.507       2-0      0.645   
   Atl#6       Sage College (SKY)       18-4, 19-4      0.818       1-1      0.472       2-0      0.645   
   Atl#3      Baruch (CUNYAC)        18-5, 18-5      0.783       3-1      0.501       1-1      0.642   
   C#7      IWU (CCIW)       17-7, 17-7      0.708       3-4      0.576       1-0      0.642   
   W#3      Buena Vista (IIAC)        17-5, 17-6      0.773       1-1      0.509       1-1      0.641   
   Atl#4      Brooklyn (CUNYAC)       19-5, 19-5      0.792       2-3      0.490       2-0      0.641   
   So#7      Louisiana College (ASC)       13-5, 13-9      0.722       4-4      0.557       1-1      0.640   
   MA#6      St. Mary's (Md.) (CAC)        16-4, 18-4      0.800       0-0      0.479       2-0      0.640   
   NE#8      Springfield (NEWMAC)       16-7, 16-7      0.696       2-5      0.581       2-0      0.639   
   GL#7      Calvin (MIAA)        16-5, 17-6      0.762       2-1      0.512       2-0      0.637   
   E#2      Plattsburgh St.  (SUNYAC)        16-6, 16-6      0.727       1-0      0.542       2-1      0.635   
   C#8      North Central (CCIW)       15-7, 17-7      0.682       3-5      0.577       1-0      0.630   
   E#3      NYU (UAA)       16-6, 16-6      0.727       4-2      0.532       0-2      0.630   
   E#6      Clarkson (LL)       17-5, 18-5      0.773       1-3      0.486       1-1      0.630   
   So#6      Hardin-Simmons (ASC)        17-6, 17-6      0.739       3-4      0.513       2-0      0.626   
   NE#10      RIC (LEC)       16-7, 16-7      0.696       0-3      0.555       2-0      0.626   
   GL#6      CWR (UAA)       12-6, 14-7      0.667       2-3      0.574       1-2      0.621   
   E#5      Skidmore (LL)        16-7, 16-7      0.696       1-5      0.542       2-0      0.619   
   E#4      Hobart   (LL)       16-6, 16-7      0.727       3-1      0.507       2-0      0.617   
   Atl#5      Rutgers-Newark (NJAC)       16-8, 16-8      0.667       1-5      0.559       2-0      0.613   
   GL#9      Hope (MIAA)       14-7, 15-8      0.667       2-5      0.552       2-0      0.610   
   So#8      Mary Hardin-Baylor (ASC)       16-7, 16-7      0.696       3-4      0.517       1-1      0.607   
   Atl#7      Staten Island (CUNYAC)        17-7, 17-7      0.708       2-4      0.491       0-2      0.600   
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Some big games with a few teams fighting for their NCAA Tourney lives tonight last night.

ATLANTIC
NJCU 61 at William Paterson 63
Rutgers-Newark 54 at Richard Stockton 70

Rutgers-Newark get tossed into Pool C and I don't like their chances.

CENTRAL
Nothing happening until Thursday when the WIAC starts their semifinals that include #3 Point and Whitewater.

GREAT LAKES
Oberlin 66 at Ohio Wesleyan 83
Denison 68 at Wooster 108

Ohio Northern 82 at Mount Union 101
Capital 55 at Marietta 78
Heidelberg 66 at John Carroll 75

No bubbles burst here as everyone won that was expected to win. That's called chalk!  :D

MID-ATLANTIC
Nothing until tomorrow tonight

NORTHEAST
Southern Maine 39 at E. Connecticut 80
Plymouth State 62 at Rhode Island College 66

Suffolk 82 at Albertus Magnus 108

Nothing drastic happened here.

SOUTH
All quiet on the Southern front

WEST
Luther 74 at Dubuque 92

Cal. Tech 64 at Chapman 86

Dubuque advanced to the semis and Chapman won a share of the SCIAC.
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