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Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #3000 on: March 13, 2017, 11:26:25 am »
Chapman can not expect to get into regionals in 2017 losing to teams like Whittier. Lots of season left but in real trouble imo

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Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #3001 on: March 13, 2017, 11:34:14 am »
Chapman can not expect to get into regionals in 2017 losing to teams like Whittier. Lots of season left but in real trouble imo

Actually, they can expect to qualify for the West Regional, if they qualify for, and win, the conference tournament.  What they probably can't expect is an At-Large bid.

Given the records of the SCIAC teams to date, it is hard to imagine  the SCIAC getting 2 teams in.  At this point in time anyway.  But then, it's been a weird season, no team seems unscathed.
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Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #3002 on: March 13, 2017, 12:20:42 pm »
Chapman can not expect to get into regionals in 2017 losing to teams like Whittier. Lots of season left but in real trouble imo

Actually, they can expect to qualify for the West Regional, if they qualify for, and win, the conference tournament.  What they probably can't expect is an At-Large bid.

Given the records of the SCIAC teams to date, it is hard to imagine  the SCIAC getting 2 teams in.  At this point in time anyway.  But then, it's been a weird season, no team seems unscathed.

I agree on this 100% for the simple fact that the SOS in the SCIAC is awful right now.  A majority of the non-conference games will wrap up in the next few weeks and once they do, the SOS for the SCIAC teams will pretty much stay stagnant. 

SOS of the SCIAC Schools as listed on this site.

Cal Lu- 75
Redlands- 114
Whittier- 134
Caltech- 144
Pomona- 161
La Verne- 181
Chapman- 226
Claremont- 238
Oxy- 253

The standings right now do not really tell me much as far as the top 4 go but I look at the results overall to see who I think makes the top 4.  The SOS of the SCIAC really hurts a lot of teams looking to get an at-large bid if they don't win the SCIAC tourney and at this point the SCIAC is a one bid league.  I don't see that changing by the end of the year.

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Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #3003 on: March 13, 2017, 12:39:52 pm »
Occi and LaVerne playing very well in last 10 games.


Oxy has played Cal Lu (7-6), Caltech (2-14), Kean (8-5), Schreiner (8-11) and Southern Vermont (2-4).  Not exactly a stacked schedule.

La Verne (last 12 games) has played Cal Lu (7-6), Caltech (2-14), Claremont (7-6), Kean (8-5), and Schreiner (8-11).

Not to discount either team as the games still have to be played (and won), but these schedules have not been the most challenging.  As mentioned, plenty of baseball left to be played.


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Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #3004 on: March 13, 2017, 02:12:32 pm »


I agree on this 100% for the simple fact that the SOS in the SCIAC is awful right now.  A majority of the non-conference games will wrap up in the next few weeks and once they do, the SOS for the SCIAC teams will pretty much stay stagnant. 

SOS of the SCIAC Schools as listed on this site.

Cal Lu- 75
Redlands- 114
Whittier- 134
Caltech- 144
Pomona- 161
La Verne- 181
Chapman- 226
Claremont- 238
Oxy- 253

The standings right now do not really tell me much as far as the top 4 go but I look at the results overall to see who I think makes the top 4.  The SOS of the SCIAC really hurts a lot of teams looking to get an at-large bid if they don't win the SCIAC tourney and at this point the SCIAC is a one bid league.  I don't see that changing by the end of the year.

If I recall, Cal Lu's SOS wasn't typically below 100. 
And typically the other SCIAC teams weren't below 150.
 
CLU's early season games out of conference games against Linfield, Pacific, Sul Ross and Kean must be contributing.   And they still have Berry (2x), Willamette, Williams (2x), Linfield (again), Puget Sound and big 3 games away against sister school Pacific Lutheran.


Let's see if Slims attempt to improve SOS helps in the end.  I'm Probably oversimplifying and it's too obvious saying: they need to win them and do better in SCIAC for their SOS to be of any value.


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Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #3005 on: March 13, 2017, 07:25:20 pm »
Congrats to Caltech on a win vs. Southern Vermont today.
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Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #3006 on: March 13, 2017, 07:48:47 pm »
Congrats to Caltech on a win vs. Southern Vermont today.

Yes, nice come-from-behind win, scoring last 6 runs in 6th-8th to win!

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Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #3007 on: March 13, 2017, 08:08:24 pm »
SCIAC will get only 1 team in the Regionals. Who know who that will be? Right now most teams still have a shot at making the conference tourney and win it. Only Cal Tech and Whittier look like they are out....

Nobody is really standing out now. POOR SOS and teams losing to teams that should not beat them.

3 teams are above .500 for the season but all have losses to teams that are less than .500 at this time.

 ??? ??? ???

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Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #3008 on: March 19, 2017, 11:25:16 pm »
It is good to have the Cal Tech wins over Bard and Southern Vermont. That will give us a better handle on how good Cal Tech is.

I have often thought that Cal Tech would be .500-ish in some conferences, especially some in New England and the Northeast.

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Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #3009 on: March 20, 2017, 05:29:30 pm »
It is good to have the Cal Tech wins over Bard and Southern Vermont. That will give us a better handle on how good Cal Tech is.

I have often thought that Cal Tech would be .500-ish in some conferences, especially some in New England and the Northeast.

There is no doubt in my mind on this.
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Re: BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #3010 on: March 20, 2017, 06:05:01 pm »
It is good to have the Cal Tech wins over Bard and Southern Vermont. That will give us a better handle on how good Cal Tech is.

I have often thought that Cal Tech would be .500-ish in some conferences, especially some in New England and the Northeast.

After seeing Southern Vermont and Bard, I agree with you and Heys.  Coach Mark has done a great job in a few years and I think they will continue getting better and better.

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Claremont got no-hit for the 2nd time this season.  I hate the 7 inning no-hitter but that is just crazy that it's happened to them twice this year.  Ouch.