D3 vs. NAIA

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K-Mack

Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 13, 2009, 01:44:58 PM
Week #2 for Keith to clean up later...    ;)

Bethany WV 41 Ky Christian 33
#2 UW-Whitewater 58, Midland Lutheran
VA-Wise 48, Newport News 0
Buena Vista 16, Peru St 14
Millsaps 27 Belhaven 10
Concordia-Moorhead 43 Valley City State 28
Rhodes 47 Haskell Indian Nations 16
UW-LaCrosse 49, Azusa Pacific 24
UW-Stout 24 Jamestown 14
Huntingdon 45, Faulkner 12
Cumberlands KY 55 Mississippi College 26
Shorter GA 42, LaGrange 19
Howard Payne 23, Southwestern Assemblies 17
#3 Mary Hardin-Baylor 42 Southern Nazarene 7
Minn-Morris 21 Dakota St 20

Corrections appreciated...

Thanks Ralph. I'll score it like so:

Midland Lutheran (Great Plains Athletic Conference) at No. 2 UW-Whitewater W 58-0
No. 3 Mary Hardin-Baylor at Southern Nazarene (Central States Football League) W 42-7
Cumberlands, Ky. (NAIA No. 6, Mid-South Conference) at Mississippi College L 55-26
LaGrange at Shorter (NAIA No. 11, Mid-South) L 42-19
Newport News Apprentice at U.Va.-Wise (NAIA No. 21, Mid-South) L 48-0
UW-Stout at Jamestown (NAIA No. 24, Dakota Conference) W 24-14
Bethany at Kentucky Christian (Mid-South) W 41-33
Peru State (independent) at Buena Vista W 16-14
Belhaven (Mid-South) at Millsaps W 27-10
Concordia-Moorhead at Valley City State (Dakota) W 43-28
Rhodes at Haskell Indian Nations (independent) W 47-16
Azusa Pacific (independent) at UW-La Crosse W 49-24
Faulkner (independent) at Huntingdon W 45-12
Howard Payne at Southwestern Assemblies of God (Central States) W 23-17
Minnesota-Morris at Dakota State (Dakota) W 21-20

By my count, that's a staggering 12-3 record for Division III, with all three losses coming by unranked D3s against ranked NAIA teams.

Didn't look like too many even matchups though. Maybe Belhaven-Millsaps, I think they've lost that game before. Stout and LaCrosse played good NAIA teams. Buena Vista/Peru might be an even matchup.

I dunno. Kinda cool to look at the scores and see there were still some tight games.
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K-Mack

#211
Week 3
vs. NAIA (12-3 in Week 2; 16-5 in 2009)
Bacone (Mid-South Conference) at Howard Payne W 56-7
Haskell Indian Nations (independent) at MacMurray L 25-22
Willamette at Southern Oregon (independent) W 22-15

Crown 63, Trinity Bible 14 FWIW. I know that doesn't belong here.
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K-Mack

Week 4
vs. NAIA (2-1 in Week 3; 18-6 in 2009)
No. 14 Linfield at Southern Oregon (independent) W 37-21
No. 17 UW-Stevens Point at Azusa Pacific (independent) L 23-7
No. 21/No. 23 Malone (Mid-States Football Association) at Anna Maria L 65-10
Ferrum at Southern Virginia (independent) W 28-21
Ohio Dominican (Mid-States Football Association) at UW-Oshkosh L 31-29
MacMurray at Bethany, Kan. (Kansas Collegiate Athletic Conference) L 63-34

2-4. Not our best showing, though a few more points at Oshkosh would've kept it even.

Also Martin Luther beat Trinity Bible 54-14. Only because I mentioned last week's score above.
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K-Mack

Week 5
Southern Virginia (independent) at Guilford W 48-6
Westminster (Mo.) at Haskell Indian Nations (independent) W 47-14
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02 Warhawk

#214
Found this on an NAIA board that was posted recently based off of the 2009 rosters. I'm not sure how to evaluate this b/c I haven't heard of half these NAIA schools. I'm guessing he took the top 10 schools from the 2009 final standings from each division.

I'm guessing we might see ANOTHER mount union-UWW matchup for the championship  8-)


Ok it is on. Mock Playoff:

TOP BRACKET

1 UWW Whitewater
BYE

9 Univ. of Cumberlands [play in game]
8 Central

5 St. Thomas (winner plays UWW/play in winner)
4 St. Xavier

3 Linfield (winner plays Lindenwood/play in winner)
6 Ottawa

10 Coe [play in game]
7 Mid American Nazerene

2 Lindenwood
BYE


BOTTOM BRACKET

1 Sioux Falls
BYE

9 Illinois Wesleyan [play in game]
8 McKendree

5 Morningside (winner plays USF/play in winner)
4 Wesley

3 Carroll College (winner plays Mount Union/play in winner)
6 Wittenberg

10 St.Francis (Ind.) [play in game]
7 Mary Hardin-Baylor

2 Mount Union
BYE

Ralph Turner

U Cumberlands beat Mississippi College 55-26 last season.


Kira & Jaxon's Dad

Quote from: Ralph Turner on June 14, 2010, 09:14:24 PM
U Cumberlands beat Mississippi College 55-26 last season.

Or, two years ago:
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MSC vs UC
(09/13/08)
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Thanks
Quote from: Manuel Willocq on June 14, 2010, 09:20:17 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on June 14, 2010, 09:14:24 PM
U Cumberlands beat Mississippi College 55-26 last season.

Or, two years ago:
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MSC vs UC   28-49
(09/13/08)

K-Mack

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on June 14, 2010, 06:13:56 PM
Found this on an NAIA board that was posted recently based off of the 2009 rosters. I'm not sure how to evaluate this b/c I haven't heard of half these NAIA schools. I'm guessing he took the top 10 schools from the 2009 final standings from each division.

I'm guessing we might see ANOTHER mount union-UWW matchup for the championship  8-)

Yeah, funny because I was just reviving the Who Are Those Guys? last night and noticing that the Big Two (Carroll and St. X) in NAIA were ranked 3rd and 4th last year.

I'm sure the NAIA site thinks its teams would win, and I don't know that I honestly know enough about their top teams to do a legit comparison, but I can't imagine I'd learn anything that would make me pick against MUC or UWW, given their recent runs of success.

I think the numbers are pretty convincing over the past four years in favor of D3 in h2h games with NAIA, but there are 240 D3s and 90 NAIAs, so I think we cover a wider gamut and it depends who you put up against who. I'm sure the top NAIA conference would dominate the UMAC in h2h. I bet some of the best NAIAs would go pretty deep into the D3 playoffs, perhaps even win Stagg Bowls. I bet Carroll and MUC share some similar traits, nah mean?

I spend my share of time comparing the two, but I don't really understand what there is to prove.
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Ralph Turner

D-3 vs NAIA

Taylor Ind 42, Anderson 20
(Alfred State 22 Newport News 7)

Coe 48 Iowa Wesleyan 21
McMurry 41 Bacone 6
Belhaven 41 LaCollege 34
Austin College 28 Southwestern Assemblies 6
UW-Eau Claire 35, Bethel TN 31
Black Hills State 14 UW-Stout 13 (OT)
Dickinson St 29, Concordia-Moorhead 24

D-III 4 wins, 5 losses.



K-Mack

Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 08, 2010, 03:48:38 PM
D-3 vs NAIA

Taylor Ind 42, Anderson 20
(Alfred State 22 Newport News 7)

Coe 48 Iowa Wesleyan 21
McMurry 41 Bacone 6
Belhaven 41 LaCollege 34
Austin College 28 Southwestern Assemblies 6
UW-Eau Claire 35, Bethel TN 31
Black Hills State 14 UW-Stout 13 (OT)
Dickinson St 29, Concordia-Moorhead 24

D-III 4 wins, 5 losses.

There was much pummelage in Week 2:
Dakota State (DAC) 7, at No. 1 UW-Whitewater 70
Olivet Nazarene (Mid-States Football Association) 7, at No. 12 Coe 45
Birmingham-Southern 52, at Faulkner (Mid-South Conference, West) 16
Buena Vista 27 at Peru State (independent) 7
Chapman 10 at Menlo (independent/D3 in 2009) 21
Valley City State (Dakota Athletic Conference) 0, at Concordia-Moorhead 42
Southwest Assemblies of God (Central States Football League) 7 at Howard Payne 32
LaVerne 14 at Azusa Pacific (independent) 59
Texas College (Central States Football League) 0, at McMurry 64
Jamestown (Dakota Athletic Conference) 24, at UW-Stout 27

Looks like 9-2 to me.
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cawcdad

Menlo was D-III Northwest Conference in 2009.

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Yes. They are independent now. That's the affiliation Keith is listing, 2010 conference affiliation.
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Ralph Turner

Week #3

D-III goes 5-2.

Azusa Pacific 46, Whittier 21
Huntingdon 42, Faulkner 10
Westminster MO 42, Haskell 14
Malone 69, Anna Marie 0
Emory and Henry 20, Virginia-Wise 10
UW-Whitewater 37, Campbellsville 7
Willamette 42, Southern Oregon 24

Corrections appreciated.